new Bazaar homepage URL

Russel Winder russel.winder at concertant.com
Fri Oct 9 06:54:10 BST 2009


Martin,

On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 16:33 +1100, Martin Pool wrote:
> I propose that we move the Bazaar site to bazaar.canonical.com.  After
> the 2.0.0 milestone, Canonical wants to more clearly show its support
> for Bazaar, while still recognizing that Bazaar is more than just
> Canonical and has its own community.

I appreciate that this is likely a fait accompli, but there is a
downside.  A URL like http://bazaar.canonical.com clearly makes Bazaar a
Canonical product rather than a FOSS project.  http://www.bazaar-vcs.org
may be awkward in many ways but it is vendor neutral.

It is undeniably true the most of the committing team are Canonical
staff, and without Canonical's support the project would likely have
stalled long ago.  There is however a difference between explicitly
stated support (and marketing) and apparent ownership.  Canonical are
the official copyright holder and so in all ways actually do own the
product.  But there is a subtlety to the current status quo where the
project is a GNU project and has a vendor neutral domain from which it
operates.

Whilst I understand Canonical wishing to expose and market its support
for this GNU project, some people may well react badly to this change.

If the project had always had bazaar.canonical.com, I doubt anyone would
worry because Bazaar is a FOSS project and anyone can contribute and
use.  It is the change, not the fact that worries me a little. 

> doc.bazaar-vcs.org, and other subdomains will move across in the same
> relative positions.  The wiki will remain interleaved with the static
> site as at present, though I would like to eventually separate all
> that content into either real web pages or a separate
> wiki.bazaar.canonical.com.  We should have redirects from the old
> pages.  There is some possible dilution of URLs, but perhaps not too
> much.  This would change us from a somewhat kludgy URL to a longer but
> arguably cleaner one.
> 
> Ian, could you please update the web site and coordinate with IS to
> make the DNS/Apache changes?
> 
-- 
Russel.
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