[bzr-explorer] Please test latest changes in bzr-explorer trunk

[Martin Pool]

On 10 May 2011 09:50, Ben Finney <ben+bazaar at benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org> writes:
>
>> Ben Finney writes:
>>
>>  > But you do, presumably, have the packages around.
>>
>> I have no idea why you would presume such a thing.
>
> Because Alexander referred to the packagers hiding their activities in
> deep dark places, it seemed that the alternatives were either that
> Alexander was being disingenuous, being lazy, or that he had already
> looked everywhere obvious for information about the packages in which he
> is interested.
>
> It would be insulting to assume he's lazy or disingenuous. Looking
> inside the package itself for information about that package seems
> obvious for a clever fellow like Alexander. Hence my presumption that he
> has found the information recorded in the packages that hold his
> interest.

Ben, this hypothetical metadiscussion seems very inefficient.  If you
have some specific ideas for how Alexander can have better
communication with people building packages, just say them.  If you
don't understand what Alexander means you will probably get a better
answer from a straight non-sarcastic question.

At the moment we have the dev list, a few wiki pages, and the
packaging list and they seem to work ok, though doubtless improvement
is possible.

Alexander's specific thing, I believe, is that Debian & derivatives
have a policy towards cutting out included versions of dependencies,
which makes sense, but causes divergence from upstream, and several
times in various packages I have seen it cause bugs.  This information
is not normally pushed back to upstream authors.  It is not a secret
as such.

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Alexander's dry Slavic humour makes me smile.

Martin