Edubuntu 7.10 - A Released Debacle and a Practice in Failure

[Alfred Nutile]

I am up to going to the meetings.  But the link you offer below brings
you to a page that does not show when the next meeting is.  Yes I know
from below and past meeting notes it is Wed.
Then the link
http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
Takes you to a caledar that does not have one meeting for Edu?
But again I will be there.
Alfred Nutile
ps..excuse my ignorance do I add or minus from Eastern US time to get
12:00 UTC??? sorry
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 13:33 +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> On Di, 2007-12-11 at 08:14 -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote:
> > 
> > I am very disillusioned with Edubuntu, the leadership (or lack thereof) 
> how many of the weekly meetings did you attend yet ? we welcome
> everybody to participate, thats the place where we discuss all
> changes ....
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Community/MeetingAgenda
> 
> its held every wednesday on an alternating schedule (12:00 UTC, 20:00
> UTC)
> 
> > We can't say that 7.10 built on the functionality of 7.04 - it actually 
> > regressed.  
> in which feature ? ther are two regression bugs i'm aware about, one is
> a leftover debugging line in ltspfsmounter that sets a fixed DISPLAY
> variable (easy workaround, delete the line), the other is intel cards
> wanting to run at 32bit on chipsets that cant which is a bug in the
> driver ... i`m not aware of any regression thats in any feature that was
> existing in feisty ...
> 
> note that the edubuntu distro is mainly a one man show with a handfull
> of communiy contributors it would be great if we could enhance the
> tester team (i think i`m the only one that has a thin client with intel
> chipset in this team fo example, my chipset doesnt expose the bug above
> which could have been easily found by someone else)...
> 
> the testers team is definately the area where we lack most devlopment
> needs feedback, which we apparently only get past release
> 
> > 
> > Is there *anyone* in the Edubuntu community either a. working on a r1 
> > release for all the bugs in 7.10 or b. working on consistent 
> > documentation for the varying incompatible releases?  If so, then where, 
> > so I can help.  If not, then why not, and should we change this?  I have 
> > tried to find ways to help by starting here
> scott balneaves worked 60h weeks for getting the edubuntu handbook we
> ship in shape, you are welcome to enhance the doc team, while i disagree
> that edubuntu is any worse in automation but agree that there are bugs
> (and yes, i`m working on a fix for ltspfs that may got to gutsy-updates
> if the ubuntu release team sees there was enough testing for the
> package) 
> 
> > Edubuntu is doing a tremendous disservice to the FOSS community by 
> > riding on the coattails of the K12LTSP and Debian-edu while pretending 
> > to be just as capable.  People are being fooled, drawn in, and then 
> > disappointed.  This is not honorable.
> > 
> > Is there anyone around capable, willing, and prepared to keep this from 
> > happening in future releases?
> we`re greatful for every helping hand ...
> 
> ciao
> 	oli