[Bug 906117] Re: NTFS partition unusable after copying network folder to it.

[BertN45]

Hi

I appreciate that you are helping, but:
- I already helped myself by creating an ext4 partition and restoring 
the files from back-up,
- I also want to help to improve Ubuntu and the community technically, 
but also how it present itself to the ordinary user.

That is the whole point for me of writing the bug-report. There are two 
basic point left:
- I still do not understand why somewhere during last week my ntfs 
partition became read-only instead of read-write during all those years. 
Was it caused rsync or an update? Somewhere there is an undetected bug.
- You said: "The security concerns are different in Windows and Ubuntu." 
That is at the heart of the greater problem with Ubuntu/Linux. The 
statement is not true since the security requirements are dependent on 
how the system is used.  It is not so much what the programmers think, 
but what the user needs and expects. If Ubuntu wants 200 million users, 
the ordinary customer (often ex-Windows) must come first.

I will update the the bug report in launchpad and address the more 
philosophical issue in the Ubuntu Forums.

best regards

Bert

On 12/21/2011 03:50 AM, Jean-Pierre wrote:
>> Your Ubuntu boss wants...
> I was just trying to help, unpaid.
>
>> In Windows as administrator in the security tab of the
>> folder/partition, you can change the owner and set the
>> permissions as you prefer without worrying about masks
>> and mount commands and that is how it should be.
>> Sorry :)
> And sorry, I have no control on how Ubuntu wants the partitions to be
> mounted. The security concerns are different in Windows and Ubuntu.
>
>> root at Dell-Ubuntu:~# mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/sdb2 /media/sdb2
>> mount: warning: /media/sdb2 seems to be mounted read-only.
>> ...
>> /dev/sdb2 on /media/sdb2 type ntfs (ro,umask=000) [HP Data]
> This has been mounted with the internal ntfs driver, which is read-only.
> Maybe you retry with ntfs-3g. Sorry about the technical explanation.
>

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Title:
  NTFS partition unusable after copying network folder to it.

Status in “ntfs-3g” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  I had a working ntfs partition and used it for ubuntu
  9.10/10.04/10.10/11.04 and 11.10. I had a windows XP network folder
  with full permissions set to "system" and my user-id. I used grsync to
  copy that a subfolder from the network folder to my ntfs partition.
  unfortunately it had the preserve owner, preserve group and preserve
  permission ticked.

  After the grsync operation my ntfs partition had the following
  permission settings: owner "root" with permissions to "access files"
  only. Group and Others had no permissions at all.

  It has been impossible to correct the situation manually. If grsync or
  other programs are allowed to mess up my permission, I need at least
  the possibility to manually correct it.

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