[Bug 876146] Re: Upgrading Ubuntu is risky (unusable or unbootable PC). The Upgrade Popup does not warn of the risks or offers fail-safe alternatives. This is a mouse trap for unsuspecting users.

[manny]

@Subharo Bhikkhu (subharo)

Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry for your frustrations, as It
seems you encountered a great number of bugs, a bad upgrade and other
issues..

Scott James blogged about the state of Ubuntu, (check the link in the
bug report at the top).

And Matthew (mpt)'s comment hit the nail too:
http://netsplit.com/2011/09/08/new-ubuntu-release-process/#comment-2966

"Scott, I’m amused at how we’ve identified exactly the same problems
with the Ubuntu development process (I mentioned some of them in my
plenary talk last UDS), but we’ve come up with diametrically opposed
solutions. You think we should have a release possibly containing new
features every month. I think we should have one every two years.

We agree on the root cause: Ubuntu has not just time-based releases, but
time-based features. Every problem is assumed to have a solution that
can be implemented either in 13 weeks, or in landable 13-week chunks.
Often that just isn’t true, and in trying to make it true, we release
half-baked designs or implementations or both. (Or in the worst case,
nobody bothers even starting on the feature.)

Moving to an always-stable-trunk model, as you describe, is something
that could work no matter how frequent the releases were [.....]"

@mpt
Am not sure but is this the "Thursday" plenary O talk you mentioned (future of universe)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oWN9qLwEkM

or is it another one?


The problems seem to be identified, but am not sure if everyone is willing to cooperate to find a common solution?

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Title:
  Upgrading Ubuntu is risky (unusable or unbootable PC). The Upgrade
  Popup does not warn of the risks or offers fail-safe alternatives.
  This is a mouse trap for unsuspecting users.

Status in NULL Project:
  Invalid
Status in “update-manager” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Typical bad upgrade user case (forum post):
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860359

  Unusable upgrade pic (unbootable)
  http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=204320&d=1318627364

  [ubuntu] Thread for failed upgrades (huge list within 24 to 48 hours)
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1858475

  Lots of angry users with broken computers that need rescue...

  Yes, that's how bad the situation has become.

  The friendly Upgrade popup has become a mouse trap for new and
  unsuspecting users.

  Warnings and fail-safe alternatives and/or advise should be offered.
  Specially for users who cant risk having their computers broken (only
  have 1 OS). Nor have the knowledge, will, time and patience to fix
  something like this.

  I think this should be Critical for "Precise" pangolin as the number
  of users upgrading will be in the Tens if not hundreds of thousands
  (or millions...), since this will be the new LTS.

  ===Initial proposal===:

  See comment #10:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/876146/comments/10

  ===Other related helpers for the upgrade problem===:

  -There is no "feedback and reporting tool to count the number of bad
  upgrades" and their related causes. Users should be able to give
  immediate feedback after every upgrade (successful or not). "Ubuntu-
  bug upgrade-report" on startup after an upgrade and a section on
  launchpad or dedicated site.

  -Update/upgrade manager should offer an auto-backup wizard to safe
  guard important user files to another partition, external storage or
  online (See comment #10).

  -Also separate branches for testing and a better release process/cycle would certainly help diminish the amount of bugs and many upgrade problems as it has been discussed here:
  http://netsplit.com/2011/09/08/new-ubuntu-release-process/

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