[Bug 1009686] Re: Change window title from "Software Updater" to...anything else?

[Arthur Tan]

Sorry, in #1 I meant to write "Updated Software" rather than "Update
Software."

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Arthur Tan <arthur at arthurtan.com> wrote:
> Hi Matthew,
>
> You are correct. I misspoke. The debate (or "spirited discussion" if
> you will) was on Google+ and was in reference to the article rather
> than in the comments to the article.
>
> Article: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/update-manager-renamed-software-updater-ubuntu-1210
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/NhRx4AWttZY
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/J485xYxhY7v
>
> That being said, the name could still be improved. You asked why.
>
> (1) "Update Manager" was fine. But "Software Updater" doesn't sound
> natural (to me). Maybe the name was changed to match the "Software Up
> to Date" menu entry under the System Menu (the cog wheel). If so, why
> don't we just call it "Update Software" (my preference)  or "Software
> Update" (my second choice) instead of "Software Updater?" The word
> "Updater" is too active of a name for what is designed to be an
> unobtrusive background process. "Updater" sounds like a program you
> run rather than the pop-up it is now. Even if I'm not convincing you,
> I hope I'm making some sense. :)
>
> (2) It's just style. We should simplify the pop-up messages to make
> them even less obtrusive, quick to read, and easy to deal with. I've
> always loved Einstein's quote about making everything as simple as
> possible, but not simpler. If we have one sentence that says, "Updated
> software is available." then the question about installing now is
> implied by the buttons, especially when one of the buttons is labelled
> "Install Now." It's redundant to ask if they want to install now and
> then have the button.
>
> Admittedly, these items are minor points. And what I think is clear
> and simple language can be very different from what someone else
> thinks. Like everyone else on this list, I'm just trying to make
> Ubuntu better.
>
> Take care,
> Arthur
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt at canonical.com> wrote:
>> Arthur, I don't see the "debate" you mention anywhere in the article you
>> linked to. Anyway, "software" is a mass noun, so "install it" is
>> correct. If we referred to "software updates" instead, then "them" would
>> be correct. I chose "updated software" instead of "software updates"
>> because that avoids having to change to a different message whenever
>> only one update is available. ("A software update is available. Do you
>> want to install it now?")
>>
>> (1) Why?
>>
>> (2) Why? This window is basically equivalent to a confirmation alert,
>> and it's a bit strange to present a confirmation alert without asking a
>> question. Normally that's done only if the preceding sentence is long,
>> and it isn't in this case.
>>
>> ** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu)
>>        Status: Confirmed => Incomplete
>>
>> ** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu)
>>      Assignee: (unassigned) => Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
>>
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>>
>> Title:
>>   Change window title from "Software Updater" to...anything else?
>>
>> Status in “update-manager” package in Ubuntu:
>>   Incomplete
>>
>> Bug description:
>>   In 12.10, "Update Manager" is now being called "Software Updater."
>>
>>   http://iloveubuntu.net/update-manager-renamed-software-updater-
>>   ubuntu-1210
>>
>>   There's also some debate whether "Do you want to install it now?"
>>   should be "Do you want to install them now?"
>>
>>   IMHO, we should just remove the second sentence altogether. The dialog
>>   should just be, "Updated software is available."
>>
>>   (1) Can we change the name of the window title from "Software Updater" to "Software Updates" ... [or something else]
>>   (2) Can we drop the second sentence in the dialog box.
>>
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Title:
  Change window title from "Software Updater" to...anything else?

Status in “update-manager” package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  In 12.10, "Update Manager" is now being called "Software Updater."

  http://iloveubuntu.net/update-manager-renamed-software-updater-
  ubuntu-1210

  There's also some debate whether "Do you want to install it now?"
  should be "Do you want to install them now?"

  IMHO, we should just remove the second sentence altogether. The dialog
  should just be, "Updated software is available."

  (1) Can we change the name of the window title from "Software Updater" to "Software Updates" ... [or something else]
  (2) Can we drop the second sentence in the dialog box.

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