[Bug 886414] Re: No 2 Minute pause at login for Server Boot in Ubuntu Desktop

[Steve Langasek]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:00:03PM -0000, Henrik Ingo wrote:
> Steve, what do you mean invalid?

An interfaces file that lists an interface as 'auto' which will not be
available at boot time.

> What do you mean with unreliable boot sequence?

Not waiting for the configured network interfaces to come up means that any
services installed on the system that require a network will fail at boot
time.  This makes for an unreliable boot.

> I have a laptop. I take it onto a business trip. I want to work on the
> airplane. There is no internet connection within miles. That (K)Ubuntu
> wants to wait for several minutes until it accepts the fact that there
> is no internet is a bug.

That's true, but not because of a wrong design conflating servers and
desktops.  Your boot should NOT wait several minutes before accepting that
there's no Internet connection; the failsafe job is there to make sure the
system continues to boot when something ELSE has already gone wrong.  That
something could be a bug in Ubuntu, or it could be a broken
/etc/network/interfaces file, or some other kind of local breakage.

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 10:29:42PM -0000, Henrik Ingo wrote:
> FWIW, here's my

> $ cat /etc/network/interfaces 
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback

Please show the output of this command:

$ ls -ld /var/run

>  - I'm actually not sure my system suffers from this bug.

Well, it would be good to confirm whether this is the case currently or
not.

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Title:
  No 2 Minute pause at login for Server Boot in Ubuntu Desktop

Status in Upstart:
  Invalid
Status in “upstart” package in Ubuntu:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  SpamapS and Scott Moser made the system to wait a few minutes at the
  login at the expense of Desktop users, for the benefit of Server
  users. I propose that we separate Ubuntu Server from Ubuntu Desktop
  completely. I have received a lot negative feedback about the change
  in 11.10. A related discussion about the problem here
  http://askubuntu.com/questions/63456/waiting-for-network-
  configuration-adding-3-to-5-minutes-to-boot-time

  /etc/networks/interface

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
  Package: xorg 1:7.6+7ubuntu7
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-12.20-generic 3.0.4
  Uname: Linux 3.0.0-12-generic i686
  ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu3
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sat Nov  5 02:54:23 2011
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100816.1)
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=en
   PATH=(custom, User Name)
   LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
   LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: xorg
  Symptom: display
  Title: Xorg freeze
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to oneiric on 2011-10-18 (17 days ago)

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