[Bug 988925] Re: util-linux no longer provides ddate

Franko Burolo fburolo at ffzg.hr
Tue Jun 19 14:40:46 UTC 2012


BTW, I have just read this discussion on Fedora: http://osdir.com/ml
/fedora-devel-list/2011-08/msg01691.html

Jon said, very reasonably: "[...] there isn't a compelling disk space or security argument, I really don't see why this should be dropped. I'm looking for a clear example of demonstrable harm. It's 14k of silliness, not a rootkit."
On that, Karel Zak acted as a bully, saying: "That's simple, I'm upstream maintainer. The command has been disabled by default in the last stable release. And yes, one I day I'll drop it..."
With only "arguments" being:
"- it's joke rather than anything useful
- it's installed on all systems, but almost nobody uses this crap"

So, by the language and attitudes he is using, and not giving any rational argument, nor option, one can easily assume that this Zak guy from Fedora/Red Hat/upstream has just decided to start his own holy crusade against the "crazy witches" in the wider Linux community.
I think the Ubuntu community should join the Debian one, and refuse to indulge this irrational and intolerant act.

Frink!

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Title:
  util-linux no longer provides ddate

Status in “util-linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  Having just upgraded to 12.04, I was dismayed to discover that ddate
  is longer present on my system.  In previous releases it was provided
  by util-linux, and according to the online man page
  (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/ddate.1.html) it is
  still supposed to be provided.  However:

  lesslie at hal:~> ddate
  No command 'ddate' found, did you mean:
   Command 'hdate' from package 'libhdate1' (main)
   Command 'sdate' from package 'sdate' (universe)
   Command 'rdate' from package 'rdate' (main)
   Command 'idate' from package 'itools' (universe)
   Command 'date' from package 'coreutils' (main)
  ddate: command not found

  System information below.

  lesslie at hal:~> lsb_release -rd
  Description:	Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
  Release:	12.04

  lesslie at hal:~> apt-cache policy util-linux
  util-linux:
    Installed: 2.20.1-1ubuntu3
    Candidate: 2.20.1-1ubuntu3
    Version table:
   *** 2.20.1-1ubuntu3 0
          500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

  What I expected:  ddate to be available on my system
  What happened instead: ddate is not available on my system

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