[Bug 952556] Re: [Precise] [Hardware-killer] HD restarts every few seconds
Steve Langasek
steve.langasek at canonical.com
Sat May 12 08:10:24 UTC 2012
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:22:13AM -0000, Dagnachew L. wrote:
> Thank you for the final release. In fact, I installed it earlier (just
> before it was removed for validation) and apt-get tells me that I have the
> latest release. If so, my problem,sadly, is not fixed by this release. I
> don't know What to do next with this critical problem.
This patch restores the behavior from previous Ubuntu releases.
Unfortunately, there are definitely some newer, "green" drives that behave
poorly even with the previous behavior. This isn't something that can be
fixed with a general-purpose SRU, because there currently is no single
setting that's appropriate for all users.
The only thing I can advise is that you set your apm_battery value even
higher - possibly even to 254 - if you're concerned about the wear on the
drive.
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Title:
[Precise] [Hardware-killer] HD restarts every few seconds
Status in “hdparm” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “hdparm” source package in Precise:
Fix Released
Status in “hdparm” source package in Quantal:
Fix Released
Bug description:
[Impact]
This issue has the potential to cause additional mechanical wear and tear on rotational hard drives by causing them to spin up and down more frequently than in previous Ubuntu releases. While the intent of a development change in the precise cycle was to allow drives to spin down sooner and stay spun down, in practice users report their drives spin back up quickly. Until this is resolved, an aggressive spin-down policy is dangerous for hardware and inappropriate.
[Test Case]
1. On a laptop with a rotational hard drive, unplug main power and run on battery.
2. Run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda|grep Load_Cycle_Count repeatedly, to observe that the count increases once every few seconds.
3. Install hdparm from precise-proposed.
4. Plug the laptop back into main power, then unplug it again.
5. Run the command from step 2 again. Observe that the count is no longer increasing or is increasing much more slowly. (Note that the precise behavior will vary from hard drive to hard drive, and on some systems there will be no difference visible at all.)
[Regression Potential]
For some users the current setting does not meaningfully increase wear and tear on their drives, but changing it will increase power consumption. This seems to be a necessary evil since there's no single power saving setting that works well for all drives.
Hi,
After update from Oneiric to Precise Beta 1, kernel 3.2.0-18-generic,
I notice that, when on battery, my Dell XPS M1330 laptop has its HD
spin down, then restart, very, very, very often, which means several
times per minute.
At this pace the HD won't live long, and this reminds to me a problem
we had few years ago with "disk killers" linuxes that were
unloading/reloading the HD heads much too often, killing disks in a
couple of months.
So I prefer to ring the alarm bell early...
Upgrading from Oneiric to Precise I didn't change any power management
parameter, but it definitely didn't do this before (and still doesn't
do this on other distros I have on multiboot, so that's no hardware
issue, only Precise does that on my machine...)
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
Package: linux-image-3.2.0-18-generic 3.2.0-18.28
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.28-generic 3.2.9
Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic i686
AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2
Architecture: i386
AudioDevicesInUse:
USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0: michel 3044 F.... pulseaudio
CRDA:
country FR:
(2402 - 2482 @ 40), (N/A, 20)
(5170 - 5250 @ 40), (N/A, 20)
(5250 - 5330 @ 40), (N/A, 20), DFS
(5490 - 5710 @ 40), (N/A, 27), DFS
Card0.Amixer.info:
Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf6dfc000 irq 46'
Mixer name : 'Silicon Image SiI1392 HDMI'
Components : 'HDA:83847616,1028020a,00100201 HDA:10951392,1028020a,00100000'
Controls : 33
Simple ctrls : 19
CheckboxSubmission: 1ea6109db29b53f721a523a77b7f3abf
CheckboxSystem: d00f84de8a555815fa1c4660280da308
Date: Sun Mar 11 22:25:00 2012
EcryptfsInUse: Yes
HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=0e7ded16-c4fc-4f81-8562-3cb1196809d3
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429)
MachineType: Dell Inc. XPS M1330
ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=fr_FR:fr:en_US:en
TERM=xterm
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.2.0-18-generic root=/dev/mapper/VG1-UBUNTU ro clocksource=hpet quiet splash vt.handoff=7
RelatedPackageVersions:
linux-restricted-modules-3.2.0-18-generic N/A
linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-18-generic N/A
linux-firmware 1.71
SourcePackage: linux
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-03-10 (1 days ago)
dmi.bios.date: 12/26/2008
dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.bios.version: A15
dmi.board.name: 0N6705
dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.chassis.type: 8
dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA15:bd12/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnXPSM1330:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn0N6705:rvr:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvr:
dmi.product.name: XPS M1330
dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.
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