[Bug 1103187] Re: automatic updates tend to reboot and die into grub rescue

Tue Jan 22 21:55:07 UTC 2013

UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

No, this is an old install from October, and I update daily, but due to
a non-server grade SSD system disk, I choose in a dialog not to record
the history.

Due to the user friendly interface, I did not know, that this can switch
off the important system logs as well.

Concerning this particular bug, the upgrade log would be the most
essential piece of information.

I just wonder, why virtually nobody else reports this bug, when I suffer from it on 3 machines of really different booting systems.  It is very unlikely that this bug depends on hardware or on installed packages or on anything.

Each day I'm scared, that a package will be automatically udated, and I
have to repair 3 installation.

Especially bad, if I have to repair my laptop in front of the gathering
audience, waiting for the late beginning of my university lecture, just
because the laptop sucked an update just before I left my office to go
to give a lecture.  On the other hand, I do not wish to switch off the
automatic update.   Just because of philosophy.

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Title:
  automatic updates tend to reboot and die into grub rescue

Status in “grub2” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:

  On 3 essentially different Ubuntu 12.10 installations

          bios or uefi boot,
          linux is alone or other system is along,
          legacy or guid partiton table

  it is a regularly appearing issue since 12.10, that if the automatic
  update touches a package which has some impact on the boot,

  then the next reboot get stock at either the grub rescue prompt, or
  booting the new kernel hangs at the missing initial ram disk, the
  latter is typical after kernel update, even just after the virgin
  installation of a fresh Ubuntu.

  Grub rescue prompt is the much harder situation, I either type in the
  correct grub commands to boot the previous kernel, or I use a "boot an
  existing linux from a partition" menu of a SYSRESC pen drive.

  Never really clear, what was wrong and what really helped.

  Here is a list of my manual struggling and accidental solution
  methods:

  (1) Sometimes I do nothing, except for booting once more the system by
  hand or by SYSRESC pen, and surprisingly the next time the system
  boots, asif there was no kind of problem before.   THIS happens more
  frequently on the combination below, and less frequently on the other
  2 combinations:

          bios boot + other system along + legacy partition table

  (2) More frequent in general is that remove/reinstall grub2, and/or
  remove/reinstall new kernel, and/or simply grub-install and update-
  grub helps, but usually NOT IN ONE STEP, however even after a logical
  and defensive

          grub-install /dev/sda

  the situation likes to become worse, usually changes between the two
  possibilities below:

          "error: invalid arch-independant ELF magic."

          "error: ELF header smaller than expected."

  and naturally I have the grub rescue prompt.   This time, just before
  this error report, the solution appeared to be the

          removal of memtest86+ and reinstall of it,

  as first there was a normal grub menu, but memtest was missing from it
  and the boot was unsuccessful, and after the usual kernel and grub
  tampering I got the invalid arch-independant ELF magic, furter usual
  tampering bought the ELF header smaller than expected, and finally my
  desperate trial was the removal of the memtest against it's
  dependencies, ... and it helped this time.

  This kind of struggling is more frequent on the 2 combination below:

          bios boot + linux alone + legacy partition table

          uefi boot + linux alone + either legacy or guid partition
  table (the both yields the error)

  The latter uefi shows the problem most stable, even if I reinstall the
  12.10 back to bios, from scratch.

  I work with computers since 1972, and with linux 1994, but I still has
  no firm idea which package is buggy.

  My guess is that not the grub itself is buggy, but the other packages
  have a buggy configuration relation to grub.

  I suggest to rate this bug serious, if we take serious the #1 main
  bug, see this site.

  I spread linux among my students at the university since the 90's,
  however if their system can become unavailable due to an automatic
  update, then some of then will give up learning linux.

  I understand that a usual other bug can be serious and hard.  But if I
  suggest the someone to switch to linux, and he/she can lost even the
  booting opportunity, then it is scary for most of the average users,
  and usually they have no enough skills to tackle the situtation, even
  to rescue their own personal files back to a proprietary system.

  That's why I suggest to rate this bug serious.  Serious in the
  consequencies in public relations.

  The version of the all the packages I use are the most up to date due
  to my policy to update as frequent as possible.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10
  Package: grub2 (not installed)
  Uname: Linux 3.2.34-std312-amd64 x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: raid10 raid456 async_raid6_recov async_pq raid6_pq async_xor xor async_memcpy async_tx raid1 raid0 multipath linear radeon r8169 mii usb_storage ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core wmi
  ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu10
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Tue Jan 22 21:28:32 2013
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (95 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5)
  MarkForUpload: True
  ProcEnviron:
   TERM=xterm
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: grub2
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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