[Bug 1315307] Re: [wishlist] Add a “big friendly button” in case do-release-upgrade crashed in the middle of the upgrade.
Martin Bodin
1315307 at bugs.launchpad.net
Fri May 2 20:22:33 UTC 2014
Hi, me again.
Just to emphase on how much the explanations of the commands in such an option is important, I’m continuing the story: after running the “sudo dpkg --configure -a”, I restarted my computer.
As usual with Ubuntu you have to be expecting anything: and there it is, my computer doesn’t start anymore, thank you guys. I get a “Grub rescue” screen, which I know nothing about and that has absolutely no “help” command available. Ubuntu: Great. Note that it worked just before: it was the “sudo dpkg --configure -a” command that made it failed.
I’m now writing this message in an live USB which I’ve just learned how to create in Fedora, as I by chance had access to another computer in such cases…
I’m now trying to run Boot-repair, which—of course, it’s included in Ubuntu—is not yet available for Ubuntu 14.04.
I don’t consider myself a causal user and I’m encountering huge obstacles to upgrade a computer… I’m sorry guys, but for me Ubuntu can’t be said to be a causal system because of this lack of seriousness. I’m not saying it’s better in Fedora, but Fedora is not meant for causal users (or at least, they don’t advertise this like ubuntu).
I hope that by this additionnal story you now understand what I mean by “explain the commands”. Typically knowing the fact that “dpkg --configure” can break the system can already be a useful information…
Of course it could be great one day to be able to upgrade an Ubuntu system without fearing of breaking anything… but I think it’s not in the goals for Ubuntu (or Ubuntu people forgot about them). It’s quite a shame: this would avoid such bug reports and all the complains I read against Ubuntu in fora. No seriously, Ubuntu really sucks in upgrading itself, it would be time to do something for it!
Hoping you’ll understand my bad mood.
Martin.
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Title:
[wishlist] Add a “big friendly button” in case do-release-upgrade
crashed in the middle of the upgrade.
Status in “update-manager” package in Ubuntu:
New
Bug description:
Hi,
I hope you won’t mind if I’m not looking for dupplicates, as I’m now writing this bug report directly on Links due to a dist-upgrade crash.
If you’re using Ubuntu, that’s probably not the first time you tried
to dist-upgrade your computer to a new version of Ubuntu and have d
-release-upgrade that crashes in the middle. I may using it
wrong—from what I’ve seen in this Links session in the Internet, it
seems that “do-release-upgrade” is depreciated and that we should use
“update-manager-text”, which is *not* a package installed by default
(who said Ubuntu should be simple to use? ☺)… that already seems like
a good bug report.
What I’m asking for such crash-in-the-middle cases, is that do-release-upgrade (or upgrade-manager-text, I don’t mind as soon as the wrong one asks if we’re sure we shouldn’t using the right one) add an option to Grub at the beginning of the upgrade, option that will be removed as soon as everything is sure to be finished.
This option (that I call a “big friendly button”) should run a consol-mode program able to:
→ Recomfort the user by explaining to him/her that yes, something crashed, but there is now this option that shows that we’re still taking care of his/her case.
→ Suggest some option—and explaining them (please do not forget that the causal user is not necessarily a fan of Links, or able to fix the network-manager package by his/herself!)—such as “sudo dpkg --configure -a”, and all the options that do-release-upgrade could launch if it had crashed in the middle.
→ Suggest some command to run to check that the fix really worked: it’s always an akward moment when you *think* that the system is fixed, but you’re not *sure* of it. A command that would check that everything seems right would be extremely appreciated.
Please, think about people like me that actually know nothing about the innerthings of package managment and what really is a dist-upgrade, but whose luck sistematically lead to a crash in the middle of the upgrading (while a message was displayed in the beginning: “do not interupt the installation under any reason once the installation process is started”, which just stress me more when I discover the computer crashed in the middle of it :-\).
Thanks by advance!
Martin.
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