[Bug 1524179] [NEW] KUbuntu 15.10 is an abomination - 14.x was the BEST, why change it?

smihaila smihaila at gmail.com
Wed Dec 9 04:41:22 UTC 2015


Public bug reported:

KUbtuntu 15.10 is simply an abomination which should die. Congratulations - you managed to make me hate KDE5.
It's absolutely U-N-S-T-A-B-L-E. Not sure what to start with - there is almost nothing to consider positive about it:

I am running it on a HP laptop with i7, 8GB RAM, 200 GB HDD, NVidia
graphics card, dedicated swap partition, NVidia proprietary BLOB driver
352, arandr etc. The laptop is always used in docked mode, with 2
external DisplayPort displays and laptop lid closed.

The KUbuntu 14.x aka Trusty WORKED PERFECTLY. After upgrading to 15.10
Willy (which went through 15.04 Vivid Velvet as intermediary stage),
NOTHING WORKS AS IT SHOULD ANYMORE. I simply hate this stupid OS.
Reasons:

01. Super-slow boot up. It takes about 5 minutes from powering up to
actually get to the plasma SDDM and enter a login and finally get to a
visible and working desktop.

02. After fiddling with tens of System Settings->Power Management
settings, the 15.10 was simply entering suspend mode when the laptop lid
was closed, even with the laptop docked and 2 external monitors
connected. Immediately after booting up. The KDE power settings were
100% ineffective. Only after searching for about a week on the Internet,
I found the real fix - editing a certain line in
/etc/systemd/systemd.conf to ignore laptop lid close events.

03. KDE multi-display is UNSTABLE. Even with the latest NVidia 358
driver and making sure to go with System Settings->Monitors, and
arranging the external monitors and turning off the laptop's own LCD
display, and defining a primary display, the settings do not seem to
stick. It is always something random/a hit and miss: after one reboot
you see the 2nd monitor as primary, on the next reboot you see the
first, sometimes you get to see the laptop's own LCD re-enabled and have
that set to primary etc. THIS IS MADNESS, I can't stand this anymore.

04. When I manage to get those 2 external displays right, if I power
them off, one by one and then try to power them on back, let's say in
the same order, NOTHING HAPPENS. The screens remain black and only the
mouse cursor is seen. I can't do anything except for switching to a TTYS
text console and triggering a reboot or a 'sudo service sddm restart'

05. If I attempt a desktop lock, the screens go again all black and only
the mouse cursor is seen. The only thing I can do is a reboot from a
text TTYs. And when doing a reboot, the whole X64 PC freezes. I have to
simply hit the power button on the docking station or the laptop for 4s+
and power the damn thing off and re-power on.

06. KDE Mail 2 no longer works as expected. Any message shown in the
bottom message preview pane shows << Grantlee "" theme is invalid". ON
ANY MESSAGE that I select.

07. I had to redefine my kwallet password to be blank. Because otherwise
the Akonady was always prompting me for a password EACH time on OS
startup.

08. Apps open and their window geometry and position (KDE session info)
are no longer persisted/restored upon the next startup.

09. The window decorations do not seem to preserve their color. For
example, I was selecting "Oxygen" to be used - sometimes the background
color of the decorations is the same with the rest, but sometimes gets
dark.

10. Unstable system tray icons. Sometimes they show like black-and-white
from "breeze" scheme, other times, the KDEMail's own icon (which I
always prefer) takes precendence, or if you chose Oxygen as icon theme,
is not honored.

11. The new KDE START MENU SIMPLY SUCKS. PLEASE BRING BACK THE START
MENU FROM KDE4/KUbuntu 14.x Trusty LTE! That one was BEAUTIFUL - with
TABBED sub-menus, AND SUPER-FUNCTIONAL. The one from KDE5/Breeze IS A
CRAP.

12. The KDE Desktop more often than not, CRASHES. Yesterday I've tried
to open a .wav file with Amarok. And the whole PC froze. THE WHOLE OS,
not only KDE. I could not even switch with ALT-F1 to a TTYs text
console.

13. Sometimes the automatic updates systray notifier announces about
some updates. Then you decide to download to install them. The Muon
system updater will kick in, but no updates will be reported actually as
being available!

14. The bottom main task bar is simply UNSTABLE. It seems to have a mind
of its own - sometimes it keeps the height that I have customized for
it, other times it gets smaller / almost unreadable.

15. MANY MANY other issues. Unexpected crashes. Even bring the task
manager (CTRL+ESC) sometimes triggers a crash. Or windows losing their
decorations (i.e. the "x" close button on top-right side etc)

PLEASE PLEASE, help me downgrade back to my TRUSTFUL AND BEAUTIFUL, PERFECT K/Ubuntu 14.x ! It was working PERFECTLY.
Sorry to say, but this so-called "stable" KUbuntu 15.x is not CRAP, but something WORSE than crap - A Diarrhea.

Congratulations KDE and Ubuntu team - somehow you managed to make myself
lose confidence in KDE and Linux. This KUbuntu 15.x crap IS WORSE THAN A
WINDOWS 95 ! You managed to put Linux and KDE names TO SHAME. Shame on
you developers. Now I can no longer use my Eclipse CDT and KUbuntu for
reliable C and C++ embedded development, and somehow I am forced to re-
install KUbuntu 14.x from scratch. Which is basically slowing me down,
and I have deadlines to fulfill at my workplace. How do I justify all of
this lost time to my manager?!?

If you happen to have an idea on how to seamlessly downgrade to KUbuntu
Trusty 14.x LTE, please please shoot an email to smihaila at gmail.com

P.S. I followed also all the instructions regarding adding the KDE
backports PPA to the known APT/DPKG repositories. Hoping to get kdemail
5.0.3 updates (I only have 5.0.2) and other package updates. BUT NO NEW
PACKAGES are being reported as available - via either 'sudo apt-get
update && sudo apt get upgrade' or via the Muon Updater.

** Affects: ubuntu
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New


** Tags: 15.10 kubuntu unstable

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Title:
  KUbuntu 15.10 is an abomination - 14.x was the BEST, why change it?

Status in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  KUbtuntu 15.10 is simply an abomination which should die. Congratulations - you managed to make me hate KDE5.
  It's absolutely U-N-S-T-A-B-L-E. Not sure what to start with - there is almost nothing to consider positive about it:

  I am running it on a HP laptop with i7, 8GB RAM, 200 GB HDD, NVidia
  graphics card, dedicated swap partition, NVidia proprietary BLOB
  driver 352, arandr etc. The laptop is always used in docked mode, with
  2 external DisplayPort displays and laptop lid closed.

  The KUbuntu 14.x aka Trusty WORKED PERFECTLY. After upgrading to 15.10
  Willy (which went through 15.04 Vivid Velvet as intermediary stage),
  NOTHING WORKS AS IT SHOULD ANYMORE. I simply hate this stupid OS.
  Reasons:

  01. Super-slow boot up. It takes about 5 minutes from powering up to
  actually get to the plasma SDDM and enter a login and finally get to a
  visible and working desktop.

  02. After fiddling with tens of System Settings->Power Management
  settings, the 15.10 was simply entering suspend mode when the laptop
  lid was closed, even with the laptop docked and 2 external monitors
  connected. Immediately after booting up. The KDE power settings were
  100% ineffective. Only after searching for about a week on the
  Internet, I found the real fix - editing a certain line in
  /etc/systemd/systemd.conf to ignore laptop lid close events.

  03. KDE multi-display is UNSTABLE. Even with the latest NVidia 358
  driver and making sure to go with System Settings->Monitors, and
  arranging the external monitors and turning off the laptop's own LCD
  display, and defining a primary display, the settings do not seem to
  stick. It is always something random/a hit and miss: after one reboot
  you see the 2nd monitor as primary, on the next reboot you see the
  first, sometimes you get to see the laptop's own LCD re-enabled and
  have that set to primary etc. THIS IS MADNESS, I can't stand this
  anymore.

  04. When I manage to get those 2 external displays right, if I power
  them off, one by one and then try to power them on back, let's say in
  the same order, NOTHING HAPPENS. The screens remain black and only the
  mouse cursor is seen. I can't do anything except for switching to a
  TTYS text console and triggering a reboot or a 'sudo service sddm
  restart'

  05. If I attempt a desktop lock, the screens go again all black and
  only the mouse cursor is seen. The only thing I can do is a reboot
  from a text TTYs. And when doing a reboot, the whole X64 PC freezes. I
  have to simply hit the power button on the docking station or the
  laptop for 4s+ and power the damn thing off and re-power on.

  06. KDE Mail 2 no longer works as expected. Any message shown in the
  bottom message preview pane shows << Grantlee "" theme is invalid". ON
  ANY MESSAGE that I select.

  07. I had to redefine my kwallet password to be blank. Because
  otherwise the Akonady was always prompting me for a password EACH time
  on OS startup.

  08. Apps open and their window geometry and position (KDE session
  info) are no longer persisted/restored upon the next startup.

  09. The window decorations do not seem to preserve their color. For
  example, I was selecting "Oxygen" to be used - sometimes the
  background color of the decorations is the same with the rest, but
  sometimes gets dark.

  10. Unstable system tray icons. Sometimes they show like black-and-
  white from "breeze" scheme, other times, the KDEMail's own icon (which
  I always prefer) takes precendence, or if you chose Oxygen as icon
  theme, is not honored.

  11. The new KDE START MENU SIMPLY SUCKS. PLEASE BRING BACK THE START
  MENU FROM KDE4/KUbuntu 14.x Trusty LTE! That one was BEAUTIFUL - with
  TABBED sub-menus, AND SUPER-FUNCTIONAL. The one from KDE5/Breeze IS A
  CRAP.

  12. The KDE Desktop more often than not, CRASHES. Yesterday I've tried
  to open a .wav file with Amarok. And the whole PC froze. THE WHOLE OS,
  not only KDE. I could not even switch with ALT-F1 to a TTYs text
  console.

  13. Sometimes the automatic updates systray notifier announces about
  some updates. Then you decide to download to install them. The Muon
  system updater will kick in, but no updates will be reported actually
  as being available!

  14. The bottom main task bar is simply UNSTABLE. It seems to have a
  mind of its own - sometimes it keeps the height that I have customized
  for it, other times it gets smaller / almost unreadable.

  15. MANY MANY other issues. Unexpected crashes. Even bring the task
  manager (CTRL+ESC) sometimes triggers a crash. Or windows losing their
  decorations (i.e. the "x" close button on top-right side etc)

  PLEASE PLEASE, help me downgrade back to my TRUSTFUL AND BEAUTIFUL, PERFECT K/Ubuntu 14.x ! It was working PERFECTLY.
  Sorry to say, but this so-called "stable" KUbuntu 15.x is not CRAP, but something WORSE than crap - A Diarrhea.

  Congratulations KDE and Ubuntu team - somehow you managed to make
  myself lose confidence in KDE and Linux. This KUbuntu 15.x crap IS
  WORSE THAN A WINDOWS 95 ! You managed to put Linux and KDE names TO
  SHAME. Shame on you developers. Now I can no longer use my Eclipse CDT
  and KUbuntu for reliable C and C++ embedded development, and somehow I
  am forced to re-install KUbuntu 14.x from scratch. Which is basically
  slowing me down, and I have deadlines to fulfill at my workplace. How
  do I justify all of this lost time to my manager?!?

  If you happen to have an idea on how to seamlessly downgrade to
  KUbuntu Trusty 14.x LTE, please please shoot an email to
  smihaila at gmail.com

  P.S. I followed also all the instructions regarding adding the KDE
  backports PPA to the known APT/DPKG repositories. Hoping to get
  kdemail 5.0.3 updates (I only have 5.0.2) and other package updates.
  BUT NO NEW PACKAGES are being reported as available - via either 'sudo
  apt-get update && sudo apt get upgrade' or via the Muon Updater.

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