[Bug 1886970] Re: should be warned if major installed package not in upgrade.
Harry Coin
1886970 at bugs.launchpad.net
Fri Aug 21 15:26:32 UTC 2020
That's it? A conclusion with no reasons, no exploration of options?
How about a check in the upgrade routine that makes a list of currently
installed packages with no reverse dependencies, that do not appear in
the new release repos, and warn the user if they consent to the upgrade
those packages will either be left behind or go away?
That sounds feasible, I suspect many other options would as well. I
was hoping for a little more thought here, or at least a reason.
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Title:
should be warned if major installed package not in upgrade.
Status in update-manager package in Ubuntu:
Opinion
Bug description:
The clear, simple pop-up graphic advising of a new long term release
can lead to major upset with Ubuntu in a way that can be avoided, as
follows:
Just for the purpose of this wish: Let's call an installed package
that provides a capability of interest to the user that's optional,
that is to say not a dependency of anything, user-driven.
If an installed 'user-driven' package is not available in a new long
term release: it's reasonable to suppose an average user would be
upset if, trusting the cheery notice of new LTS release won't do
'anything bad', their package-of-interest is mysteriously gone upon
reboot. It's just a question of the extent to which Ubuntu wants to
be friendly to folks who think it's too much to comprehend the zooming
console screenfulls of 'lib*' and so forth being upgraded.
We know some major packages (where 'major' means the user went out of
their way to install it) arrive only as 'backports' for long term
releases, so accepting the LTS until those arrive when the prior
version is installed -- will be a loss.
There are lots of potential 'right answers', I think the only wrong
answer is 'do nothing'. I call this a bug because going along with
the clear, obvious intention of the pop-up will in these cases leave
the user worse off as their chosen optional package will be gone
though you'd think that Ubuntu would have taken that into account
before presenting the 'it's all ready!' notice.
The case that bit me was freeipa-server, but there are many others.
Just dealing with repeated notices on consoles and pop-ups making me
go out of my way to turn them off seems, well, less user-friendly than
the standard Ubuntu keeps elsewhere.
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