[Bug 1868646] Re: "Try it" installs kwallet differently than "Install now"
MarkF
1868646 at bugs.launchpad.net
Tue Mar 24 16:38:22 UTC 2020
** Description changed:
ISO testing 20.04 Kubuntu daily image (20200323). Something involving
Kwallet & wifi is installed differently depending on whether I take the
- path "try it" (and install from Live desktop), or "install now."
+ path "Try it" (install from Live desktop), or "Install now."
- 1. When I install from the Live Desktop (after clicking "try it," and
- then reboot the installed system, wifi doesn't automatically connect (as
- other Ubuntu desktop flavors do after wifi was used during the install).
- I have to manually connect, at which point Kwallet makes me set up a
- password (with no indication a null password is acceptable).
+ 1. When I install from the Live Desktop (after clicking "Try it," and
+ then reboot the installed system), wifi doesn't automatically connect. I
+ have to manually connect, at which point Kwallet makes me set up a
+ password (with no indication that a null password is acceptable).
2. When I install from "Install now," and reboot, wifi automatically
- connects. I don't have to mess around with Kwallet. Apparently
- everything is working with a null Kwallet password.
+ connects (as all the other Ubuntu desktop flavors do). I don't have to
+ mess around with Kwallet.
- The #1 behavior has bothered me for awhile. It hasn't felt normal to me.
- It took a month to learn that I could enter a null password and never be
- bothered by it again. I've been debating opening a bug about it (because
- it doesn't seem inviting to new users who have no idea why it works this
- way, or null is a valid password).
+ The #1 behavior has bothered me for awhile. It hasn't felt normal to me,
+ and would be confusing to a new user. It took a month for me to learn
+ that I could enter a null password and never be bothered by Kwallet
+ again. I've been debating opening a bug about that.
- I just tried "Install now" and it worked different. I think that's a
- valid bug. They should work the same, I'm sure. IMO, #2 is the proper
- behavior. If it worked that way, I would have much less concern with
- Kwallet creating an unpleasantness for new users. With #2, everything
- works the way a new user would expect it to work. (So, if/when those two
- paths to install work the same: I hope #2 is the way they both work.).
+ I just tried "Install now" and it worked the way I thought it should
+ work. I think that's a valid bug (the install should work the same
+ either way).
+
+ IMO, #2 is the proper behavior. Everything works the way a new user
+ would expect. If/when those two paths to install work the same: I hope
+ #2 is the way they both work. (I strongly feel like #1 is offputting to
+ new users and an unnecessary exposure to something new, before they can
+ proceed much further past the installation. They end up having to enter
+ a 2nd password each time they boot in order to get wifi to work. As I
+ said, I was contemplating opening a subjective bug report about this
+ unintuitive situation. I was relieved to see that it may not have been
+ intended to work that way.).
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
Package: ubiquity (not installed)
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-18.22-generic 5.4.24
Uname: Linux 5.4.0-18-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu21
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: KDE
Date: Mon Mar 23 18:59:13 2020
InstallCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed maybe-ubiquity quiet splash ---
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-03-24 (0 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 20.04 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Alpha amd64 (20200323)
SourcePackage: ubiquity
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
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Title:
"Try it" installs kwallet differently than "Install now"
Status in ubiquity package in Ubuntu:
New
Bug description:
ISO testing 20.04 Kubuntu daily image (20200323). Something involving
Kwallet & wifi is installed differently depending on whether I take
the path "Try it" (install from Live desktop), or "Install now."
1. When I install from the Live Desktop (after clicking "Try it," and
then reboot the installed system), wifi doesn't automatically connect.
I have to manually connect, at which point Kwallet makes me set up a
password (with no indication that a null password is acceptable).
2. When I install from "Install now," and reboot, wifi automatically
connects (as all the other Ubuntu desktop flavors do). I don't have to
mess around with Kwallet.
The #1 behavior has bothered me for awhile. It hasn't felt normal to
me, and would be confusing to a new user. It took a month for me to
learn that I could enter a null password and never be bothered by
Kwallet again. I've been debating opening a bug about that.
I just tried "Install now" and it worked the way I thought it should
work. I think that's a valid bug (the install should work the same
either way).
IMO, #2 is the proper behavior. Everything works the way a new user
would expect. If/when those two paths to install work the same: I hope
#2 is the way they both work. (I strongly feel like #1 is offputting
to new users and an unnecessary exposure to something new, before they
can proceed much further past the installation. They end up having to
enter a 2nd password each time they boot in order to get wifi to work.
As I said, I was contemplating opening a subjective bug report about
this unintuitive situation. I was relieved to see that it may not have
been intended to work that way.).
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04
Package: ubiquity (not installed)
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-18.22-generic 5.4.24
Uname: Linux 5.4.0-18-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu21
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: KDE
Date: Mon Mar 23 18:59:13 2020
InstallCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/kubuntu.seed maybe-ubiquity quiet splash ---
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-03-24 (0 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 20.04 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Alpha amd64 (20200323)
SourcePackage: ubiquity
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
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