[Bug 1988819] Re: When apt keeps back packages due to phased updates, it should say so
Seth Arnold
1988819 at bugs.launchpad.net
Tue Sep 20 23:21:55 UTC 2022
An alternative, proposed by user avih on IRC, is to not report any of
these packages to the user at all:
<avih> however, these phased updates are quite a big list which adds a lot of noise to my regular dist-upgrade, and it interferes with me reviewing what's about to get updated
<avih> the kept back list is quite bigger than the list of things to update...
<avih> arraybolt3: if this is indeed the standard order of things, why am i being shown at all what it's NOT going to install for reasons not related to errors or conflicts?
I can see a lot of appeal to not telling the user information -- from
their perspective, the packages don't actually exist yet.
Maybe it'll cause confusion if of two machines sitting right next to
each other, one can see the updates and the other cannot. That's not
ideal.
But holding information back from the user doesn't require new strings,
and casual users with one machine might never notice.
It's just fun to see an alternative idea that's 180 degrees different
from my initial thought. :)
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Title:
When apt keeps back packages due to phased updates, it should say so
Status in apt package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed
Bug description:
After phased updates have been introduced, it may happen that apt
upgrade shows packages as upgradable but ends up not upgrading them.
In this case the packages are indicated as being "kept back".
Unfortunately, the feedback provided about this to the user is not
very informative. The user sees the packages being kept back and
thinks something is going wrong on the system.
When packages are kept back because of phased updates, apt should say
so e.g., it should say that the upgrade is delayed.
Incidentally note that aptitude does not respect phased updates.
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 22.04
Package: apt 2.4.7
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.15.0-47.51-generic 5.15.46
Uname: Linux 5.15.0-47-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu82.1
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown
CurrentDesktop: KDE
Date: Tue Sep 6 10:05:14 2022
EcryptfsInUse: Yes
InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-16 (933 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" - Release amd64 (20191017)
SourcePackage: apt
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to jammy on 2022-06-03 (94 days ago)
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