openstack hard depency or not

[William Reade]

Hi Vassily

I'm interested to know a little bit more about your use case. It sounds
like you're interested in managing client user identities and permissions
within a single environment, so as to avoid the costs of running one
environment for each of your clients -- is that accurate? Can you tell me a
little bit more about what you're planning to do -- for example, are you
considering allowing clients to manage their services via juju directly?

The on-demand state server is potentially tricky to arrange -- the juju
model involves a state server that's always running, with a set of agents
connecting to that server to monitor the desired state of the system and
respond to changes. It *is* designed to have the configured services
resilient in the face of management failure -- so that losing juju does not
mean you lose your services -- but we wouldn't encourage deliberately
shutting down management to save on state servers.

With respect to the "next two cycles", we mean roughly "less than a year".

Cheers
William



On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Vasiliy Tolstov <v.tolstov at selfip.ru>wrote:

> 2013/11/18 John Arbash Meinel <john at arbash-meinel.com>:
> > Given that you can run multiple services on a given machine, is there
> > a strong reason that multiple state servers are a problem for you? (I
> > want to make sure if there is a use case that is a problem our
> > solution actually covers it.)
>
>
> As i see , clients that want wordpress or something else does not want
> to create unneeded things.
> After they installs wordpress (for example) they can test it and works
> with it. After sometime if all goes ok thet want to add load balancer
> and something new to it.
> But i don't think that all time they need state server. I think best
> of all spawn state server on demand. For example user interact with
> juju with provided keys, my own server (or such thinkg) check incoming
> key and spawn lxc container with state server and proxy to it (or this
> can be do it in state server itself).
>
>
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