Feedback from a new charm author
Dean Maniatis
dean.maniatis at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 16:21:32 UTC 2016
Hello,
I'm a new charm author trying to learn the basics and decided to start
with a simple bash template. I'm working on porting netdata
<https://github.com/firehol/netdata> as a subordinate charm which is a
lightweight real-time performance and health monitoring tool. On my
first charm revision <https://github.com/deanmaniatis/netdata-charm> i
managed to deploy it and test it with Xenial and Trusty both on LXD and
AWS. I have identified the following challenges/questions and since i
couldn't find any information from docs i decided to post here. Some
maybe more related to feature requests than actual questions so please
treat the following as a mixed feedback from a newbie.
1. How to test centos7 series? The upstream developer has put a lot of
effort to support all major Linux distributions but i can't seem to be
able to find any information regarding "charming" in regards with
Centos7. After some quick research it seems that currently centos7 image
is not supported in either AWS or localhost provider
<https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1495978>. In addition, it seems
there are no centos7 charms to look into their code nor even a simple
blank centos7 charm to be used as a sandbox (similar to the ubuntu charm).
2. When i first deployed my subordinate charm i couldn't figure why i
was able to relate it to only to a few charms and not all available on
the canvas. Later i understood that i have to deploy at least one for
each series which somehow doesn't provide this really cool user
experience of application modeling, i.e. deploy a single subordinate
charm and during relation let the system/charm code handle the intricate
details and provide meaningful message in case the relation is not
feasible, e.g. this charm is not supported for this series. There is an
informative message when using CLI but on the GUI it simply grays out
the target charm and it is not really clear why that's not possible.
3. When a subordinate charm enables a new service on the principal charm
shouldn't that service be listed under the `Expose application` GUI
section? For example my charm enables a web UI dashboard on port 19999
so i would expect that to be added to whatever other service is listed
under the principal charm. I've define this service on metadata.yaml
with `provides: website: interface: http` and with `open-port 19999` on
install hook but doesn't seem to be working. What am i doing wrong?
4.I can easily deploy an application bundle with one command but the
opposite is not available except manually removing each service or
destroying completely the model. Shouldn't `juju remove kubernetes-core`
just work?
Dean
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