[Bug 493505] Re: [IBM 1834RTG] hibernate/resume failure

[lelamal]

On Saturday 24 April 2010 01:21:55 you wrote:
> Hi lelamal,
> 
> This bug was reported a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it
> recently.
Hi, this is basically because, while bugs kept adding to the original bug, the 
problem was completely ignored up to the next important release, probably 
hoping that would solve the issue (as it happens with many unsolved bugs, 
unfortunately), although a serious kernel problem is involved. As pointed out, 
however, using the machine in a working environment, I can't afford losing data 
and wasting time after a broken release which contains several critical 
regressions. As a result, I switched to another machine, and another flavor 
(kubuntu), which finally guaranteed me unstopped, reliable work-flow. In 
addition, many users must have felt the same, and resorted to the same, or 
other solutions, and this, coupled with lack of serious response from 
developers in a timely fashion, would finally account for the lack of activity 
in this bug, recently.

> We were wondering if this is still an issue? Can you try with
> the latest development release of Ubuntu?  ISO CD images are available
> from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/ .

I am sorry, but both machines are now on kubuntu (currently, lucid), so I 
cannot try that now. This bug may even be set to "incomplete", but since it 
was filed under karmic, I can swear it was still very active till the point I 
had to switch machine and desktop manager. So, no one actively fixed it. 
Besides, I do not see a clear point in testing (now!) a development release 
when all I needed was back then the OS to work in a stable environment and 
with a stable release. This is a rather convoluted way to fix things, and to 
those who insist that ubuntu is different from Windows in that you can actually 
report bugs and have them fixed before a new release comes out I would like to 
point out that it's not entirely true, and I could verify that numerous times.

> If it remains an issue, could you run the following command from a Terminal
> (Applications->Accessories->Terminal).  It will automatically gather and
> attach updated debug information to this report.
> 
> apport-collect -p linux 493505

Sorry, I could not, for I am not running that flavor (and will not anytime 
soon) and machine anymore.
 
> Also, if you could test the latest upstream kernel available that would be
> great.  It will allow additional upstream developers to examine the issue.
>  Refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds .  Once you've
> tested the upstream kernel, please remove the 'needs-upstream-testing'
> tag.  This can be done by clicking on the yellow pencil icon next to the
> tag located at the bottom of the bug description and deleting the
> 'needs-upstream-testing' text.  Please let us know your results.

For the same reasons already discussed, unfortunately I cannot test my 
machines with the latest upstream kernel available, because I need a stable 
working environment, and all my contributions to the ubuntu project may be 
limited to reporting bugs and to a few translations.

Also, note that, as explained in comment #35 at 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/485108, I had already 
done everything I needed to, by mentioning an upstream bug url in my comment 
and linking it to the bug. I also continued to follow the upstream bug report 
as I was told to, but there was not much activity either, I must say, so there 
was nothing you could pull into Ubuntu to take a look at it. So, I was pretty 
much waiting for developers to look into the issue, and update you on that. 
Lack of activity on both sides left the bug to stall, and me to pursue 
stability elsewhere.

Just a final, personal thought: chasing change "just for the hell of it", 
trying "to be different" at all costs at every new release, and releasing twice 
a year an unstable OS may not the best way forward, if Canonical is seriously 
considering to fix Bug 1. To me, is more important to have old bugs fixed and no 
regressions when I upgrade to new versions, rather than having a shiny new 
piece of OS half-baked twice a year just in time for its schedule just because 
it had to be released regardless. You can keep pushing dirt under the carpet, 
but sooner or later someone has to clean underneath.

Thanks in advance.
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[IBM 1834RTG] hibernate/resume failure
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