[Bug 294616] [NEW] launching juk and amarok in konsole vs. xterm

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launching juk and amarok from xterm window always works. It does not work with updated kubuntu in a konsole window. 
Launching this programs  from kde4-kmenu in kubuntu also works. I suspect dbus problems:

konsole sets some dbus variables:

jfh at jfh00:~$ env|grep -i dbus
KONSOLE_DBUS_SERVICE=:1.124
KONSOLE_DBUS_SESSION=/Sessions/1
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-yQc77X8gU8,guid=0142e4eaab749be25cb83e494912baf7
jfh at jfh00:~$


xterm does not:
jfh at jfh00:~$ env |grep -ni  dbus
35:DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-yQc77X8gU8,guid=0142e4eaab749be25cb83e494912baf7

Here is what happens with juk and amarok on konsole:

jfh at jfh00:~$ juk
juk(9899): Communication problem with  "juk" , it probably crashed.
Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "

jfh at jfh00:~$ KCrash: Application 'juk' crashing...
sock_file=/home/jfh/.kde/socket-jfh00/kdeinit4__0

amarok
amarok: BEGIN: App::App()
amarok: BEGIN: void App::continueInit()
amarok: BEGIN: EngineController::EngineController()
<unknown program name>(9907)/: Communication problem with  "amarok" , it probably crashed.
Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "

jfh at jfh00:~$ KCrash: Application 'amarok' crashing...
sock_file=/home/jfh/.kde/socket-jfh00/kdeinit4__0

** Affects: kdebase (Ubuntu)
     Importance: Undecided
         Status: New

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launching juk and amarok in konsole vs. xterm
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/294616
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