[Bug 184472] Re: NumLock will not turn on when I login to a KDE 4.0 session
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On 2009-02-05T15:31:54+00:00 Ejmarkow wrote:
Version: (using KDE 4.2.0)
Compiler: gcc 4.3.3-1 (GNU Compilier)
OS: Linux
Installed from: Unspecified Linux
System Info:
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System: Arch Linux
Desktop: KDE 4.2
Compiler: gcc 4.3.3-1 (GNU Compiler)
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First, activate and enable the NumLock feature using the following menu
commands:
[System > System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Click on "Turn On" for
"NumLock on KDE Startup"]
When rebooting the computer or restarting KDE, initially, but for a very
short time, the NumLock Light indicator is "On", and then after a brief
period, it shuts off after that. The light seems to shut off after
various keyboard activity, such as typing the "free -m" command line in
the KDE Konsole (Terminal) for example. However, NumLock functionality
is still there, hence, enabling one to type numbers using the keypad
even though the Light Indicator is off.
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On 2009-02-15T14:55:57+00:00 Ejmarkow wrote:
Is this issue going to be assigned to anyone to review?
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On 2009-07-26T15:38:53+00:00 Jonathan Thomas wrote:
*** Bug 187410 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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On 2009-10-18T20:12:36+00:00 Lonefenris wrote:
Confirmed here on KDE 4.3.2 (Arch Linux)
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On 2009-12-11T16:12:20+00:00 Antonio wrote:
Confirmed on KDE 4.3.4 (Kubuntu).
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On 2010-05-12T02:59:05+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
Any xkb options used? any keyboard layouts configured? if yes could you
please attach ~/.kde/share/config/.kxkbrc ?
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On 2010-05-12T08:54:31+00:00 karaluh wrote:
Created attachment 43505
kxkbrc
> Any xkb options used? any keyboard layouts configured?
None that I'm aware of, but I attached the file as requested.
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On 2010-05-24T14:53:07+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
This problem seems to be unrelated to KDE's keyboard module.
Do you by any chance run some LED daemon, like http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ledd.8.html ?
There's a very similar problem
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232364 which was fixed by stopping
ledd daemon.
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On 2010-05-25T08:15:34+00:00 karaluh wrote:
No, ledcontrol isn't and never was installed. There's also no ledd in ps
aux.
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On 2010-05-30T11:43:58+00:00 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
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On 2010-05-30T11:45:39+00:00 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:
Confirming on KDE 4.4.3 on Arch Linux. No application possibly touching
the state of led is installed
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On 2010-08-18T03:49:36+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
Any news on this? Any improvements with newer X.org or KDE 4.5?
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On 2010-08-19T06:25:46+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
I can't reproduce this problem on either Mandriva or openSUSE for either
KDE 4.4.4 or 4.5.
Taking to account three reports were from Arch Linux (and one from
Kubuntu which might be ledd problem) I would think it's related to the
distro packaging.
I am marking this bug as "need more info" for now, but if there's any
additional information please add it to the bug and I'll take a look.
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On 2010-08-19T08:38:45+00:00 karaluh wrote:
It's fixed for me.
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On 2010-08-19T13:35:12+00:00 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:
I'm not sure whether it's the same issue, but when I switch the user
(start another session) and I switch back the light indicator shuts off
even though num lock is still on. Both users have the setting to turn on
the numlock at startup enabled.
LED is re-enabled when I switch on and off numlock. I've configured
keyboard layout switcher to indicate the keyboard layout using the
Scroll lock LED. When I switch layouts and the scroll lock led is
switched on/off, the numlock LED is re-enabled too.
The system is Arch Linux with KDE 4.4.5
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On 2010-08-20T16:23:16+00:00 Lonefenris wrote:
Yes, this no longer appears to be a problem for me, at least as of
4.4.5. I have not checked on Lukas's issue (Comment #14), though.
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On 2010-08-20T19:29:32+00:00 Antonio wrote:
Created attachment 50788
kxkbrc
It still is an issue for me, using KDE 4.5.0 on Kubuntu 10.04.1. I can
reproduce everything from comment #14, and also using Suspend to RAM:
after waking up, the LED is off, even though NumLock is active. I have
no LED daemon such as ledcontrol installed, and my keyboard layouts are
"us(altgr-intl)" and "de".
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On 2010-10-19T14:00:31+00:00 karaluh wrote:
I was hit by this bug again today. Kubuntu Maverick.
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On 2010-10-25T06:08:27+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
(In reply to comment #17)
> I was hit by this bug again today. Kubuntu Maverick.
And led daemon is not used? That seems to be most probably cause at
least for *Ubuntu distros.
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On 2010-10-25T15:45:43+00:00 karaluh wrote:
(In reply to comment #18)
> (In reply to comment #17)
> > I was hit by this bug again today. Kubuntu Maverick.
>
> And led daemon is not used?
Nope, sorry.
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On 2010-11-11T20:00:45+00:00 Foofyfoofer wrote:
(In reply to comment #0)
> Version: (using KDE 4.2.0)
> Compiler: gcc 4.3.3-1 (GNU Compilier)
> OS: Linux
> Installed from: Unspecified Linux
>
> System Info:
> ------------
> System: Arch Linux
> Desktop: KDE 4.2
> Compiler: gcc 4.3.3-1 (GNU Compiler)
> ------------
>
> First, activate and enable the NumLock feature using the following menu
> commands:
>
> [System > System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Click on "Turn On" for "NumLock
> on KDE Startup"]
>
> When rebooting the computer or restarting KDE, initially, but for a very short
> time, the NumLock Light indicator is "On", and then after a brief period, it
> shuts off after that. The light seems to shut off after various keyboard
> activity, such as typing the "free -m" command line in the KDE Konsole
> (Terminal) for example. However, NumLock functionality is still there, hence,
> enabling one to type numbers using the keypad even though the Light Indicator
> is off.
I can confirm this issue as well. Once the light is off it swaps where
num lock on is off and num lock off is on. Kubuntu 10.10 KDE 4.5.3. Any
info I can submit?
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On 2011-05-25T16:14:17+00:00 Antonio wrote:
Still an issue with KDE 4.6.2 on Kubuntu. Long-time issues like this -
keypad status is that of reverse LED - sadly display some staggering
non-professionalism, I'm beginning to think.
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On 2011-05-25T16:30:10+00:00 Alain ANDERLINI wrote:
I also experienced this bad behavior too, I mean: System > System
Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Click on "Turn On" for "NumLock on KDE
Startup", then system reboot: the numlock status LED is OFF although my
numeric keypad is enabled, and the way around: if I press the numlock
key, the numlock status LED is ON but my numeric keypad is disabled. Pb
is 100% reproducible (I'm running Kubuntu Natty 11.04 with KDE 4.6.2). I
don't have the numlock status LED transiently switching to ON just after
the reboot as reported in comment #1. Also, if I check "Leave unchanged"
for "NumLock on KDE Startup" in my system settings, I may have my
numlock status LED correctly handled, but then after some while, the LED
status gets de-synchronized with the actual numeric keyboard status (I
did not identified one single action that triggers the de-
synchronization so far).
The bug is classified as "waitingInfo": which info do you miss for
investigating this issue further, which issue being pending for some
while now (I do not remember from which KDE version this pb appears, but
I did not have any problem at all with numlock handling one or two years
ago).
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On 2011-05-28T23:38:39+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
(In reply to comment #22)
> The bug is classified as "waitingInfo": which info do you miss for
> investigating this issue further, which issue being pending for some while now
I tried and could not reproduce this problem on Mandriva 2010.x, OpenSuse 11.3 and 11.4 and Fedora 14 and 15. I also tried KDE 4.4, 4.5, 4.6 and master (upcoming 4.7). It was also tried on several X.org versions.
It's not quite clear from the comments but looks like the problem in Arch distro is gone (at least for some users) so it leaves only Kununtu to misbehave.
I could change the status to WORKSFORME (which is the right one when it can't be reproduced), but I am willing to look at it again if somebody can reproduce it on some other distribution I have access to (that's why it's still in WAITINGFORINFO).
Also there's several possibly related bugs in x.org which are still open:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32921
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35005
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8411
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12434
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3037
Now there's at least one bug in Ubuntu which was seen under Gnome so also is not related to KDE:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/92482
(In reply to comment #21)
> Still an issue with KDE 4.6.2 on Kubuntu. Long-time issues like this - keypad
> status is that of reverse LED - sadly display some staggering
> non-professionalism, I'm beginning to think.
Yes, I agree, that's why I don't use Kubuntu or and don't recommend it to anybody :)
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On 2011-05-29T10:00:32+00:00 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:
I can reproduce it on both OpenSuSE 11.4 and Arch. It doesn't happen
when rebooting but the symptoms are exactly the same. The LED shortly
switches on to indicate that numlock is on, but then it the LED switches
off while the numlock is still enabled.
Steps to reproduce:
1. create two users
2. log into as the first user and enable numlock
3. use "Switch User" and log into the second user
4. switch back to the first user user using Ctrl + Alt + Fx, and unlock the session
Result:
in most cases the LED indicating numlock state is is off while numlock is still enabled. However the KDE session for 2nd user seems to handles numlock LED correctly.
If the bug doesn't show up, try to switch the numlock on/off randomly
while switching between users. Actually, after few tries I was able to
break numlock indicator for the second user too.
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On 2011-05-29T23:30:28+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
(In reply to comment #24)
> I can reproduce it on both OpenSuSE 11.4 and Arch. It doesn't happen when
> rebooting but the symptoms are exactly the same.
Lukas, thanks a lot for good description, I was trying to reproduce the original report (the problem on booting up) that's why I didn't see it.
The problem with switching VT's is a x.org bug though, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9964 (Wrong state of NumLock LED with 2 X servers started or state of NumLock LED is not preserved)
I was able to reproduce it with OpenSuse 11.4 (X server 1.9.3) even without KDE - I just started two simple X sessions and the problem with numlock is there. So you may want to subscribe to the x.org bug.
It also may be somewhat related to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35005 (NumLock state on two USB keyboard LED-s), interesting bit from that bug: "Laptop keyboards have its own driver / hardware numlock handling and therefore these can have independent numlock state" - this probably complicates the problem even more.
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On 2011-05-29T23:54:16+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
Just tried VT switching in Fedora 15 (X.Org X Server 1.10.1) and the
numlock problem is still there. I am marking this as UPSTREAM.
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On 2011-05-30T10:50:16+00:00 Alain ANDERLINI wrote:
@Andriy Rysin: forgot to mention that the pb occurs on a USB keyboard
connected to my T400 laptop, which has already an internal keyboard. The
Numlock status LED on this laptop internal keyboard is correctly handled
and I never noticed so far any discrepancy on that keyboard between the
numlock LED status and the actual status of the numeric keyboard. The pb
occurs with the external USB keyboard only, and I don't need so far to
switch betwen VT console for the pb to appear, neither I need to switch
between two active users. As far as I can see, the pb rather relates to
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35005: seems as if the
external keyboard does not get the NumLock LED state message on reboot:
only the internal keyboard gets it.
"I am willing to look at it again if somebody can reproduce
it on some other distribution I have access to (that's why it's still in
WAITINGFORINFO)" > Do you want me to carry out some traces, or dump some debug information, that might be helpful for identifying the source of this bug? If so, please let me know, I would be keen helping you further (and don't start the distro war please: the pb so far seems not related to the distro but the xorg server, isn't it).
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On 2011-06-01T00:05:52+00:00 Andriy Rysin wrote:
@anderlia Unfortunately as you already mentioned it's a problem in x.org, and I don't have an easy way to fix it in KDE. I suspect some things could be done a bit better if we support configuring multiple keyboards (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177889) which might make it a bit more explicit as to which keyboard numlock state goes but even then the problems in x.org will probably create other issues we'll have to deal with.
I'd say this needs to be fixed in upstream or we can just wait for Wayland and hope there will be no problems like these :)
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On 2012-05-03T09:19:12+00:00 Alain ANDERLINI wrote:
Seems the problem is fixed from 12.04 Precise Pangolin onwards (KDE
4.8.2, xserver-xorg 1:7.6+12ubuntu1). The NUMLOCK LED indicator on my
external USB keyboard is now consistent with the actual status of the
numercal keyboard, and I can correctly set the NUMLOCK status at startup
time in my KDE system settings either to OFF/ON/LEAVE UNCHANGED. I
tested the threee options and they all work fine. As far as I am
concerned, 183308 bug can be set to CLOSE/RESOLVED.
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On 2012-05-03T17:08:55+00:00 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:
It seems to be partially fixed (KDE 4.8.2) on Arch. It doesn't happen
when I have the first keyboard layout selected, but it still sometimes
happen when I have the second keyboard layout selected while switching
to another user.
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On 2012-12-27T08:52:20+00:00 Donjaime wrote:
To reproduce under Arch with KDE 4.9.4 using a PS2 keyboard:
1. Set Num Lock to be on in the System Settings.
2. Log out/in.
3. Switch to another virtual console with ctrl-alt-F1
4. Switch back with alt-F7
5. [Do more or less anything you like, but do not press caps-lock or numlock]
6. Press any shift, ctrl, or alt key and watch the LED go out.
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