Alpha software and 9.10

[Divan Santana]

Hi All,

On Tuesday 29 September 2009 21:45:04 Alessandro Ghersi wrote:
> In data martedì 29 settembre 2009 09:30:31 PM, Jonathan Thomas ha scritto:
> : > Hello,
> >
> > It has come to my attention that two pieces of software that we had
> > assumed would have stable releases by now have now. We need to decide
> > what the best decision would be to handle this situation.
> >
> > Kaffiene, which has replaced Dragon Player as the default media player,
> > is currently at  1.0 prerelease 1. A second pre-release has been released
> > by Kaffeine (and needs sponsorship if a core-dev feels generous) but is
> > still very much an alpha. It should be said that there is a not-uncommon
> > startup- crasher that Kaffeine currently has[1]. Dragon Player, by
> > contrast, is much more stable and has complete KDE support for bug fixes.
> > I cannot advocate the default inclusion of Kaffeine in the state it's
> > currently in.

My experiences of kaffeine have been that its a good video player perhaps 
lacking a bit of polish. I haven't had startup crashes.
That said, I would think that dragon is a safe bet because we should be 
shipping kubuntu as polished(and just works) as possible.

Regarding shipping VLC, I prefer KDE based players as its more friendly, 
"intergrated/fits in" etc.

> > K3b I'm a bit less dead-set about. Currently it is at 1.66 (alpha 2 of
> > 2.0 I guess) and from what I and a few others have seen, burns things
> > quite fine. There have been a few crash reports against the KDE4
> > version[2] (I count 4) Upstream also seems to have died after alpha 2 was
> > released, which was almost 4 months ago[3]. Do we want to revert to a
> > KDE3 version? Harald Sitter and I agreed that polling our userbase in
> > regards to this would be a good idea, but we also both lamented that we
> > don't really have a good way to go about this...
> >

Unfortunately I haven't tested KDE4 k3b lately. I think CD burning software is 
a must have for a desktop OS out of the box.


> > Anyway, in my opinion Kaffeine should at the least not be part of the
> >  default installation. I'm still thinking about my opinion on K3b, but if
> >  we want to take care of this at all, we really need to do so soon.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Jonathan Thomas, your emergency backup Jonathan.
> >
> > [1] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422183
> > [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/
> > [3] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/1.66.0~alpha2-0ubuntu1
> 
> I used Kaffeine and my opinion is it's not ready for daily use.
> My question and the question of many many Kubuntu users is:
> why not Vlc? It's too big to insert it on CD ?
> 
> Alessandro
> 
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Divan Santana
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