From joantur at cancullet.org Sat Oct 1 08:39:51 2005 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 10:39:51 +0200 Subject: konsole (3.5b) problem with $SHELL and $HOME/.bashrc In-Reply-To: <200509291542.44138.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> References: <200509291542.44138.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> Message-ID: <200510011039.53368.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dijous, 29 de Setembre de 2005 15:42, en Botykai Zsolt va escriure: | I'm loging in via kdm to kde (or mostly xfce4, or fluxbox). I set up my | prefered shell via chsh, to '/bin/zsh'. | After loging in and run xterm, it fires up and runs zsh. | But if I start konsole it never runs zsh (while I until it from the | konsole-session) and it fires up using bash but doesn't even source my | $HOME/.bashrc | any idea? I think I've found your solution. Open konsole, configuration window. In session tab you'll find what you're looking for. Good luck ;) | Zsoltik@ -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sclewin at bmts.com Sat Oct 1 14:35:51 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:35:51 -0400 Subject: PPPoeconf In-Reply-To: References: <433C4303.3050403@bmts.com> Message-ID: <433E9EC7.5030408@bmts.com> Thilo Six wrote: > Thilo Six schrieb am 30.09.2005 17:56: > >> Have a look here: >> >> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15436 >> >> should solve your Prob. >> > > > I just thought my explanation is a little misty. It did not seem to work, I put below the output of the console. I also commented out "mtu 1492" and made sure it was saved. I still need to run pppoeconf every time I login to start my Internet connection. scott at kubuntu:~$ sudo pppoeconf Password: Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. scott at kubuntu:~$ poff /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed. None stopped. scott at kubuntu:~$ pon /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem ' You also may have misunderstood me. My connection quality is perfect, I just need to run ppoeconf every time now to connect to the internet when before I use to only need to run PPPoeconf once and then the computer would connect automatically at startup. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From support at bigriverinfotech.com Sat Oct 1 16:12:54 2005 From: support at bigriverinfotech.com (Raymond) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 12:12:54 -0400 Subject: Bluetooth USB Message-ID: <200510011212.54654.support@bigriverinfotech.com> Current version of Kubuntu on Panasonic CF-51 Notebook. Wish to implement Skype with USP bluetooth and Bluetooth headset. Plan to utilize a Linksys USBBT100 USB adaptor and Motorola HS850 headset. Any advice would be appreciated. Raymond From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Oct 1 21:44:37 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 23:44:37 +0200 Subject: PPPoeconf In-Reply-To: <433E9EC7.5030408@bmts.com> References: <433C4303.3050403@bmts.com> <433E9EC7.5030408@bmts.com> Message-ID: Scott schrieb am 01.10.2005 16:35: > scott at kubuntu:~$ sudo pppoeconf > Password: > Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. > scott at kubuntu:~$ poff > /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed. None stopped. > scott at kubuntu:~$ pon > /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option > '/dev/modem ' ^ is there an space character in the file? maybe this cause a problem > You also may have misunderstood me. My connection quality is perfect, I > just need to run ppoeconf every time now to connect to the internet when > before I use to only need to run PPPoeconf once and then the computer > would connect automatically at startup. OK ic. > -- > Your friend, > Scott bye Thilo From mobiledallas at yahoo.com Sun Oct 2 03:46:00 2005 From: mobiledallas at yahoo.com (Christopher Smith) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 20:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: proxy settings? Message-ID: <20051002034600.69114.qmail@web80106.mail.yahoo.com> I am trying to get through my firewall at school. I put in the right proxy address, but it doesn't give me my pop up password login to get through the school's firewall. What do I need to do? Thanks, Chris From ecquinto at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 06:58:38 2005 From: ecquinto at gmail.com (EQ) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:58:38 +0800 Subject: error says floppy is not a mountable volume:( Message-ID: <470d2c13051001235829765376@mail.gmail.com> Hello What does this error mean and what can be done to make the pc read my floppy disk? error: "given udi is not a mountable volume" Thanks. EQ -- RCNS/Faculty of Engineering UST http://groups-beta.google.com/group/educulturemedia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waldbie at verizon.net Sun Oct 2 18:58:23 2005 From: waldbie at verizon.net (Carl) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 14:58:23 -0400 Subject: proxy settings? In-Reply-To: <20051002034600.69114.qmail@web80106.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051002034600.69114.qmail@web80106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510021458.23482.waldbie@verizon.net> On Saturday 01 October 2005 11:46 pm, Christopher Smith wrote: > I am trying to get through my firewall at school. I > put in the right proxy address, but it doesn't give me > my pop up password login to get through the school's > firewall. What do I need to do? > > Thanks, > Chris Chris, I assume you are talking about your web browser. Are you using Firefox or Konqueror, or something else? Do you know what kind of firewall the school is using? Thanks, Carl Waldbieser From ncosoy at gmail.com Mon Oct 3 12:05:37 2005 From: ncosoy at gmail.com (Natalio Cosoy) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 09:05:37 -0300 Subject: Problems starting KDE and Gnome after Installing Kubuntu from Ubuntu Message-ID: <2fe3a4340510030505i2e209e76t568bd20c8e6d6dd0@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone. I need some help. And I am a true newby, so full details will be necessary. I have installed kubuntu-dektop using apt-get from ubuntu. After restart, neither KDE or Gnome will start. I am asked for login, but after that it returns to the login again. It showed me in one of the attempts a series of error messages, but I couldn´t get them... Some ideas of what I can do? (maybe edit a couple of files? -something I haven´t done yet -and less in text mode...) Thanks! Natalio -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From priyadarsanroy at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 05:47:46 2005 From: priyadarsanroy at yahoo.com (priyadarsan roy) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Laptop as AP Message-ID: <20051004054747.67727.qmail@web60519.mail.yahoo.com> Hi there, I am trying to setup my Laptop as a Wireless Access Point. As a client to an access point it is working perfectly fine. But when I try to make my laptop as an access point it gives me an error as this pd at pdlaptop:~$ sudo iwconfig eth1 mode Master Password: Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument. My lspci output for the Network card is 0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05) My wireless driver loaded by default is (from lsmod) ipw2200 66156 0 Has anyone come across any such problems when trying to make their linux box as an AP. I am using Kubuntu Hoary.. Thanks in advance PD __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From james at grayonline.id.au Tue Oct 4 05:58:06 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:58:06 +1000 Subject: Kernel update - now no DRI --SOLVED-- In-Reply-To: <200509261535.35734.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <200509261535.35734.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <200510041558.16607.james@grayonline.id.au> On Monday 26 September 2005 15:35, James Gray wrote: > I've been using the packages from Flavio Stanchina > (http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html) > for a while with my Ati X300 lappy. Everything was happy and 3D > apps/screen savers were smoooth :) > > This morning I did an "apt-get dist-upgrade" and among a few KDE3.4.2 > updates there was a new kernel and new headers etc. This normally isn't a > problem as after the reboot, to load the new kernel, I loose 3D > acceleration until I recompile the fglrx kernel module. So I went and did > that and can successfully load the kernel module. > /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > > (II) fglrx(0): UMM area: 0xc0501000 (size=0x03aef000) > (II) fglrx(0): Composite extension enabled, disabling direct rendering ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Should've read the error message in context shouldn't I? > (WW) fglrx(0): *********************************************** > (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * > (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * > (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * > (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available * > (WW) fglrx(0): ********************************************* * In /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is the following lines: ... Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" EndSection Comment out this entire section (need to be root/sudo) then restart the X server and voila. Accelerated 3D again. It seems the composite extension is incompatible with the 3D acceleration. No big deal for me, I don't use it. If you have turned on experimental transparencies etc, then this conflict may affect you too. The fix is to disable the composite extension. HTH someone out there....it's been bugging me for a week or so :( Cheers, James -- He who despises himself nevertheless esteems himself as a self-despiser. -- Friedrich Nietzsche -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zoeblackmore at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 18:47:03 2005 From: zoeblackmore at gmail.com (zoe blackmore) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:47:03 +0100 Subject: Ye olde Hardware shoppee Message-ID: <72f29ef50510041147s30457cd0l@mail.gmail.com> Hi I am yet another linux newbie/techno dummy using kubuntu...been exploring three weeks and very happy. Most pleasing computer fun since I had me old beos. I am thinking of upgrading my extremely cheap computer based round a £35(UK money) mainboard to a reasonably good modern self built home/internet system...AMD64, motherboard, memory, graphics card and dvd player processor etc. I am not into gaming or super art work. Is the anything/limits I should realise before I go mad creating my evil computer. Any good ideas might be fun ..thinking of a £300-400 (uk money again) budget. best regards zoe From zoeblackmore at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 18:53:52 2005 From: zoeblackmore at gmail.com (zoe blackmore) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 19:53:52 +0100 Subject: HP combo scanner/printer thingy Message-ID: <72f29ef50510041153t5684495fp@mail.gmail.com> Hi Another question sorry I have an hp psc 1350 all in one printer... which I would like to get working. Any advise for a complete techno dummy how to get thing working. My friend set up CUPS and I am pretty sure I spotted and down loaded a driver for it. Or is it better to wait until Brezzy glides through my letter box. Zoe From jperlow at gmail.com Tue Oct 4 19:36:45 2005 From: jperlow at gmail.com (Jason Perlow) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:36:45 -0400 Subject: New Ubuntu/Kubuntu article at Linux Magazine for Newbies Message-ID: <34eeab20510041236p6fe3ce3fs6afd529158076d94@mail.gmail.com> http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/2230/ -- Jason Perlow * jason at egullet.org * perlow at linux-mag.com Founder, The eGullet Society * Contributing Editor, Linux Magazine http://www.egullet.org * http://www.linux-mag.com (201)541-5454 (201)541-5664 fax * 350 Knickerbocker Road, Tenafly NJ 07670 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In > session tab you'll find what you're looking for. Great! It works as expected now! Thanks for helping me out. Zsoltik@ From tricial40 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 14:11:16 2005 From: tricial40 at yahoo.com (Tricia Linder) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 07:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The programing Message-ID: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a computer that we got through a friend. It have the Linex Kubuntu installed on it. What I want to do is know how to get it off the computer. Can you please send me the instructions on how to reformat the computer with this program or just to uninstall it please? Thank you Tricia --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kubuntu-devel-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com Wed Oct 5 13:04:25 2005 From: kubuntu-devel-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com (kubuntu-devel-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 08:04:25 -0500 Subject: Forward of moderated message Message-ID: An embedded message was scrubbed... From: cesar catacutan Subject: windows programs Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 09:09:02 +0100 (BST) Size: 1262 URL: From zsolt.botykai at online.hu Wed Oct 5 13:20:09 2005 From: zsolt.botykai at online.hu (Botykai Zsolt) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:20:09 +0200 Subject: Forward of moderated message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200510051520.09722.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> 2005. október 5. 15.04 dátummal kubuntu-devel-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com ezt > is there a possibility of installing adobe photoshop > in UBUNTU? > what other WINDOWS-BASED application can i install > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Search google for winehq. (Can't recall it's domain, probably http://www.winehq.com/ ) They have a database of working applications with wine (which is a working windows enverimont emulator). I used to install Photoshop 7 with my previous Gentoo install and it worked 90%. HTH, Zsoltik@ Ps: Sorry about the disclaimer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Online Business Technologies Corp. shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. In such cases Online Business Technologies Corp. will not bear the responsibility of consequences. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the system manager immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. A levelben foglalt, nem az Online Rt. hivatalos uzletmenetevel kapcsolatos velemenyek vagy mas informaciok vonatkozasaban az Online Rt. nem vallal felelosseget. Amennyiben a level valamely hiba folytan jutott Onhoz, kerjuk, hogy valaszlevelben azonnal ertesitse a rendszer uzemeltetojet, majd torolje ki a levelet rendszerebol! From vincent.arnoux at rfo.atmel.com Wed Oct 5 15:55:38 2005 From: vincent.arnoux at rfo.atmel.com (Vincent Arnoux) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:55:38 +0200 Subject: The programing In-Reply-To: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1128527738.3963.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Tricia, In order to uninstall Linex Kubuntu, you need to go to: Start menu -> Configuration panel -> Add/Remove program and select it from the list. If this is not working or if the program does not appear in the list, then it means that Linex CANNOT be desinstalled and you can trash your computer after having hit a few times on the head the "friend" who gave you this piece of crap. Best regards, Vincent Le mardi 04 octobre 2005 à 07:11 -0700, Tricia Linder a écrit : > I have a computer that we got through a friend. It have the Linex > Kubuntu installed on it. What I want to do is know how to get it off > the computer. Can you please send me the instructions on how to > reformat the computer with this program or just to uninstall it > please? > > Thank you > Tricia From dan_axtell at yahoo.com Wed Oct 5 17:31:16 2005 From: dan_axtell at yahoo.com (Daniel Axtell) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Printing man pages Message-ID: <20051005173117.41266.qmail@web33803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, with my previous Linux distro, Mandrake, I used to print man pages with the enscript command as follows: man MANPAGE | esncript -2 -j -r and I'd get a nice 2-column, landscape mode printout with borders and a tiny font. Now when I do that under Kubuntu with the same Brother USB laser printer, the left margin is off the page and various punctuation marks are way off. I can print man pages via Konqueror, but I dislike the lack of columns and the huge font, which I'm not sure how to adust (I can adjust the screen font easily enough, but the print function just ignores it). Any simple solutions to printing man pages with a small font and double column? Thanks, Dan __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From harry.vorstenbosch at zonnet.nl Wed Oct 5 16:22:26 2005 From: harry.vorstenbosch at zonnet.nl (Harry Vorstenbosch) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:22:26 +0200 Subject: The programing In-Reply-To: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1128529346.9381.7.camel@darkstar.kingwood> Dear Tricia, You need a bootable diskkette or a bootable CD-ROM from for instance Windows98 or a later version W2K or XP and/or a bootable CD from one of the available LINUX versions (if You want another Linux version). Boot it with the Operating System You Want or You can get or borrow, and reformat the whole system and install the "new" one. (Most Operating Systems explain You how to handle while booting). Success, Harry, or do have a On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 07:11 -0700, Tricia Linder wrote: > I have a computer that we got through a friend. It have the Linex > Kubuntu installed on it. What I want to do is know how to get it off > the computer. Can you please send me the instructions on how to > reformat the computer with this program or just to uninstall it > please? > > Thank you > Tricia > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -- Harry Vorstenbosch private From devriesbj at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 18:43:58 2005 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:43:58 -0400 Subject: WPA and DHCP Problems Message-ID: Hey all, I was curious if anyone has had the following problem and was successful at fixing it. Hardware: Wireless NIC - Proxim Silver (ORiNOCO 11b/g PC Card) using the Atheros chipset D-Link router - DI-624 wired/wireless router with WPA-PSK (using TKIP) enabled IBM T20 laptop - dual boot Kubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) and Win2000 ================================= Setup: The wireless NIC appears to load correctly creating ath0 interface. The wpa_supplicant appears to load correctly with WPA enable and the passphrase set correctly with wpa_passphrase. ================================= Problem: I don't get an IP address from my router after wpa_supplicant has authenticated. ================================= Commands and output: # wpa_cli Selected interface 'ath0' Interactive mode > status bssid-00:11:95:68:3e:c4 ssid=devfam pairwise_cipher=TKIP group_cipher=TKIP key_mgmt=WPA-PSK wpa_state=COMPLETED Supplicant PAE state=AUTHENTICATED suppPortStatus=Authorized EAP state=SUCCESS ---------------------------------------- # dhclient ath0 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 Listening on LPF/ath0/00:20:a6:51:77:f0 Sending on LPF/ath0/00:20:a6:51:77:f0 Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6 DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13 DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 19 DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8 No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. ---------------------------------------- My D-Link DI-624 Log: Time Message Note Oct/05/2005 13:25:18 Authentication success 00-20-A6-51-77-F0 Oct/05/2005 13:25:18 state: paeDISCONNECTED Oct/05/2005 13:25:18 Wireless PC connected 00-20-A6-51-77-F0 ================================= The only thing I can "see" that might be a problem is that wpa_cli indicates that "Supplicant PAE state=AUTHENTICATED" whereas the router log says "state: paeDISCONNECTED". Any help would be greatly appreciated. BTW, this setup works fine if I boot into Win2000 and it used to work fine using Kubuntu 5.04 (Hoary). Nothing has changed except upgrading Kubuntu. TIA, Brad. From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Wed Oct 5 19:32:17 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:32:17 +1300 Subject: The programing In-Reply-To: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 03:11, Tricia Linder wrote: > I have a computer that we got through a friend. It have the Linex Kubuntu > installed on it. Have you cool, where can I get Linex, I've never seen it. > What I want to do is know how to get it off the computer. I did some research and Linex is uninstallable because it doesn't exist and non-existant things just can't be got rid of. > Can you please send me the instructions on how to reformat the computer > with this program or just to uninstall it please? I take it you actually mean linux kubuntu, it isn't a program it's an operating system there is a huge difference. If you really need to get rid of it and install something like windows so you can enjoy all the lovely worms, viruses and malware like other people then you need to find either a floppy or a bootable cd with one of Microsofts operating systems on it and run fdisk and format. A quick use of that funny thing called a search engine will show you how to do it. -- *~~~~~~~~~~~DakaR From james at grayonline.id.au Thu Oct 6 00:17:28 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:17:28 +1000 Subject: Printing man pages In-Reply-To: <20051005173117.41266.qmail@web33803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051005173117.41266.qmail@web33803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510061017.32486.james@grayonline.id.au> On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 03:31, Daniel Axtell wrote: > Hi all, > > with my previous Linux distro, Mandrake, I used to > print man pages with the enscript command as follows: > > man MANPAGE | esncript -2 -j -r > > and I'd get a nice 2-column, landscape mode printout > with borders and a tiny font. Now when I do that > under Kubuntu with the same Brother USB laser printer, > the left margin is off the page and various > punctuation marks are way off. See if this works any better for you: man -t MANPAGE | psnup -c2 | lpr or create a shell script (call it "printman" and dump it in your path): #!/bin/bash # Invoke with: printman MANPAGE man -t $1 | psnup -c2 | lpr The output is in postscript so you may need to tweak the "lpr" commands for you printer. HTH, James -- O amor nasce, vive e morre nos olhos. -- William Shakespeare -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dan_axtell at yahoo.com Thu Oct 6 00:41:43 2005 From: dan_axtell at yahoo.com (Daniel Axtell) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Printing man pages In-Reply-To: <200510061017.32486.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <20051006004143.16360.qmail@web33814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks! works like a charm. > > See if this works any better for you: > > man -t MANPAGE | psnup -c2 | lpr > > or create a shell script (call it "printman" and > dump it in your path): > > #!/bin/bash > # Invoke with: printman MANPAGE > > man -t $1 | psnup -c2 | lpr > > The output is in postscript so you may need to tweak > the "lpr" commands for > you printer. > > HTH, > > James > -- > O amor nasce, vive e morre nos olhos. > -- William Shakespeare > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ From hbbio493 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 6 02:16:40 2005 From: hbbio493 at yahoo.com (tony m) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 19:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: newbie Message-ID: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am a NEW, and cant emphasize that enought NEW Kubuntu User. I have been a Windows person my whole life, know Macs a bit but no clue on Linux. I need articles that will literally walk me step by step on how to install, config, and get aquainted with Linux. I have installed Kubuntu 5.0.4 but can not even get pass the command line :( I installed Server Edition/package. thank you --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lionelv at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 03:08:46 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:08:46 +1000 Subject: download kubuntu Message-ID: Hi all, Background: I've used Mandriva for a few years and have just started using Kubuntu. I upgraded to Kubuntu from a Ubuntu install. I recently found a download link from the ubuntulinux site for kubuntu 5.04. I sent this link to a friend who is interested in trying linux. While I was trying to explain something to them over messenger and they were getting confused I discovered that they were running gnome! What's the deal, I thought it should have been KDE? So, would KDE have been installed and do they just need to change sessions? Or do I have to get them to download kubuntu-desktop? Thanks, Lionel. From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 6 07:46:08 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 08:46:08 +0100 Subject: download kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lionel wrote: > Hi all, > > Background: I've used Mandriva for a few years and have just started > using Kubuntu. I upgraded to Kubuntu from a Ubuntu install. > > I recently found a download link from the ubuntulinux site for kubuntu > 5.04. I sent this link to a friend who is interested in trying linux. > While I was trying to explain something to them over messenger and they > were getting confused I discovered that they were running gnome! What's > the deal, I thought it should have been KDE? So, would KDE have been > installed and do they just need to change sessions? Or do I have to get > them to download kubuntu-desktop? If he has a plain Ubuntu install then a simple: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will get KDE packages and other software installed. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE - Has info on installing Kubuntu. From peter.shillan at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 07:56:04 2005 From: peter.shillan at gmail.com (Peter Shillan) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 08:56:04 +0100 Subject: The programing In-Reply-To: <200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: Hi everyone, Since I am not a moderator this may carry little weight but I'm going to say it anyway. The lady who contacted the list may have misspelled Linux but that is no reason to be rude to her. It seems that English may not even be her first language. Are there many of us on this list who could fluently converse in a second language? Probably not as many as those of another nationality who talk with us in English. I know this is an informal list and that questions are answered by ordinary members but we have to remember that we represent a community - several even. The Kubuntu community, the Ubuntu community, the Linux community and the open source community. When we reply to new (or potentially new) users with sarcasm, acerbic commentary and rudeness, all we do is make those people decide they don't want to be a part of it. Can we please try to encourage a positive attitude towards those who know less? Just because something is obvious to you, doesn't make it obvious to someone who is a new user and perhaps completely new to computing. I think, in short, if you can't answer nicely, don't answer at all. Someone else will do it. Best regards, Peter. From lionelv at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 08:05:30 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel van den Berg) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 18:05:30 +1000 Subject: download kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Martin J Hooper wrote: > If he has a plain Ubuntu install then a simple: > > sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop > > will get KDE packages and other software installed. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE - Has info on installing Kubuntu. Thanks, I'm aware of how to upgrade, but I'm wondering if the Kubuntu download comes with gnome and there is some way that he has booted into gnome? If so is it likely KDE is already installed, could it be on the cd? Thanks, Lionel. From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Thu Oct 6 08:08:08 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:08:08 +1300 Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510062108.09523.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:16, tony m wrote: > I am a NEW, and cant emphasize that enought NEW Kubuntu User. I have been a > Windows person my whole life, know Macs a bit but no clue on Linux. I need > articles that will literally walk me step by step on how to install, > config, and get aquainted with Linux. I have installed Kubuntu 5.0.4 but > can not even get pass the command line :( I installed Server > Edition/package. > > thank you A server version is just that a server. It has the daemons for smtp, pop etc but usually doesn't have any sort of gui and is used from the command line. This sort of install is designed to be between other boxes and the internet. If you want a gui then you needed to select something like home user or however your distro worded it. You could try apt-get install kde and see what happens or if you don't want to try that route, reinstall and choose another version rather than server. -- *~~~~~~~~~~~DakaR From mloriz at comfia.ccoo.es Thu Oct 6 08:18:26 2005 From: mloriz at comfia.ccoo.es (miquel loriz toro) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:18:26 +0200 Subject: screen "dirt" in non kde apps Message-ID: <200510061018.27090.mloriz@comfia.ccoo.es> Hi all, I am new to kubuntu, I've shift from Suse and I am glad of that. My laptop runs considerably faster. But I have a little problem since two days ago. I can't remember doing anything special but the thing is that non KDE applications (firefox or NVU) doesn't display very well. I see a lot of lines and dirt when scrolling. This is not happening with Kde applications. I've changed the resolution in KDE but I don't know how to do anything for the other aplications. Any help will be very appreciated. Thank you very much Miguel Loriz Madrid-Spain -- Miquel Lóriz mloriz at comfia.ccoo.es From dgvirtual at akl.lt Thu Oct 6 08:18:19 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 11:18:19 +0300 Subject: download kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4344DDCB.1050100@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lionel van den Berg ra??: > Martin J Hooper wrote: > >> If he has a plain Ubuntu install then a simple: >> >> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop >> >> will get KDE packages and other software installed. >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE - Has info on installing Kubuntu. > > > Thanks, I'm aware of how to upgrade, but I'm wondering if the Kubuntu > download comes with gnome and there is some way that he has booted into > gnome? If so is it likely KDE is already installed, could it be on the cd? Were your friend to install Kubuntu from a cd, he would have ONLY KDE as a desktop. Kubuntu CD comes without Gnome. He must have installed Ubuntu, which comes only with Gnome Desktop, and in that case he does not have KDE desktop. When he has both desktops (he can run a command in the Konsole sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get a working KDE desktop), he will be able to choose between the environments at system startup. Both KDM (KDE desktop manager) and GDM (default Gnome Desktop Manager) give you an ability to choose environments. Have a nice day, Donatas Glodenis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQ0Tdy/DtAb8AVdgrAQLJwwQAnCrrJLxwaTOHmxbpIVNg1U+4jwolPw/O FMxaRIirrmAioyPX3Vz+qeMrRPCgZ1FtJZ3mP1nx+XTwYvvRoqFs9MEtZSBD2GCU Vk5GKrX9APm6HbFt7tkmcU6fX4Y5LnLYyzPfdaeS3NtID/4DFtPX/DpKgU6zxVks XLzbj2eACy0= =BhH3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 6 09:25:07 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:25:07 +0100 Subject: download kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lionel van den Berg wrote: > Thanks, I'm aware of how to upgrade, but I'm wondering if the Kubuntu > download comes with gnome and there is some way that he has booted into > gnome? If so is it likely KDE is already installed, could it be on the cd? Ah Sorry - It seems he has installed Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu. Kubuntu has a seperate install disc that just installs KDE rather than Gnome. He will have to re-install using the Kubuntu CD rather than the Ubuntu CD if he wants KDE. From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 6 09:27:26 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:27:26 +0100 Subject: screen "dirt" in non kde apps In-Reply-To: <200510061018.27090.mloriz@comfia.ccoo.es> References: <200510061018.27090.mloriz@comfia.ccoo.es> Message-ID: miquel loriz toro wrote: > Hi all, > > I am new to kubuntu, I've shift from Suse and I am glad of that. My laptop > runs considerably faster. But I have a little problem since two days ago. I > can't remember doing anything special but the thing is that non KDE > applications (firefox or NVU) doesn't display very well. I see a lot of lines > and dirt when scrolling. This is not happening with Kde applications. I've > changed the resolution in KDE but I don't know how to do anything for the > other aplications. I don't know if this will help or not but if you install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt it makes your GTK2 apps use KDE themes. This could solve your problem - not sure though. From lionelv at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 12:47:14 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel van den Berg) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:47:14 +1000 Subject: download kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Martin J Hooper wrote: > Lionel van den Berg wrote: > >> Thanks, I'm aware of how to upgrade, but I'm wondering if the Kubuntu >> download comes with gnome and there is some way that he has booted >> into gnome? If so is it likely KDE is already installed, could it be >> on the cd? > > > Ah Sorry - It seems he has installed Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu. Kubuntu > has a seperate install disc that just installs KDE rather than Gnome. > He will have to re-install using the Kubuntu CD rather than the Ubuntu > CD if he wants KDE. Ok, thanks. Lionel. From lionelv at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 12:54:28 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel van den Berg) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:54:28 +1000 Subject: download kubuntu In-Reply-To: <4344DDCB.1050100@akl.lt> References: <4344DDCB.1050100@akl.lt> Message-ID: Donatas G. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lionel van den Berg ra??: > >>Martin J Hooper wrote: >> >> >>>If he has a plain Ubuntu install then a simple: >>> >>>sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop >>> >>>will get KDE packages and other software installed. >>> >>>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE - Has info on installing Kubuntu. >> >> >>Thanks, I'm aware of how to upgrade, but I'm wondering if the Kubuntu >>download comes with gnome and there is some way that he has booted into >>gnome? If so is it likely KDE is already installed, could it be on the cd? > > > Were your friend to install Kubuntu from a cd, he would have ONLY KDE as > a desktop. Kubuntu CD comes without Gnome. > > He must have installed Ubuntu, which comes only with Gnome Desktop, and > in that case he does not have KDE desktop. > > When he has both desktops (he can run a command in the Konsole > > sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop > > to get a working KDE desktop), he will be able to choose between the > environments at system startup. Both KDM (KDE desktop manager) and GDM > (default Gnome Desktop Manager) give you an ability to choose environments. Thank you. I sent him the direct link, the funny thing is the iso that he downloaded was called kubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso so I have no idea what happened! Looks like I will be getting him to download kubuntu-desktop after all. Lionel From gunksta at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 23:15:03 2005 From: gunksta at gmail.com (Andy Choens) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:15:03 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice.org Not Using KDE Theme Message-ID: <5536eac60510061615sd4ee63bg538ab3c5961bf075@mail.gmail.com> I installed Kubuntu, and a few other toys, after using Ubuntu 5.10 for a while. All is well, except for OpenOffice. It's refusing to use KDE's themes. This is a 64-bit Breezy install. I have the ia32kde files installed. I even tried reconfiguring them and openofice.org with dpkg to make sure they knew about each other. But, I still have a borin OOo. If anyone knows how to trick OOo into looking like a pretty KDE app, I'd love to hear about it. It sure would make my time in KDE land look more consistent. --andy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I even tried reconfiguring them and openofice.org with dpkg to make sure they knew about each other. But, I still have a borin OOo. If anyone knows how to trick OOo into looking like a pretty KDE app, I'd love to hear about it. It sure would make my time in KDE land look more consistent. --andy -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users --------------------------------- Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It sure would make my time in KDE land look more > consistent. --andy Does the following in /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf have any effect? # force OOo to use theme settings from gnome or KDE or disable? # set to 'gnome', 'kde' or 'none' to override the autodetection #export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Experience, n.: Something you don't get until just after you need it. - Olivier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am starting to see the benefits of having home on a separate partition. I do still have a 40 gig partition that holds Windows XP that I haven't booted into for six months so maybe it is time for that to go. If I do a clean install of Breezy, what would you suggest for partitions? Next question: If I do a clean install of Breezy into the current XP space, how can I keep all my emails... currently using Kontact. Thanks, Tim From gunksta at gmail.com Fri Oct 7 20:43:04 2005 From: gunksta at gmail.com (Andy Choens) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:43:04 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice.org Not Using KDE Theme In-Reply-To: <200510071251.43483.sebas@kde.nl> References: <20051007035915.75858.qmail@web35514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200510071251.43483.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <5536eac60510071343g23375d45k13eecb378c16334a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/05, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > Andy Choens wrote: > > If anyone knows how to trick OOo into looking like a pretty KDE app, I'd > > love to hear about it. It sure would make my time in KDE land look more > > consistent. --andy > > Does the following in /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf have any effect? > > # force OOo to use theme settings from gnome or KDE or disable? > # set to 'gnome', 'kde' or 'none' to override the autodetection > #export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome After much effort and web surfing I now realize that the entirety of my problem is a problem with my QT locales. When I try to start a program like swriter from within KDE, I get the following outpt from the commandline. I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "en_US.UTF-8" I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale "en_US" I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "C" Qt: Locales not supported on X server At this point OOo is clearly trying to use QT. I tried installing EVERY english language pack I could find. Then I installed some spanish ones I'd been meaning to install anyway. Then, for good measure I reconfigured locales from the commandline. Then I reset my computer. Lots of fun, no change in behavior. I tried googling for QT locales, but haven't found anything useful, or I looked right over it not realizing it was what I wanted. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions as to set my QT locales, that would be great. qtconfig does not offer a way to do this, I looked. --andy From aikurn at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 09:45:16 2005 From: aikurn at gmail.com (Aikurn) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 11:45:16 +0200 Subject: Upgrading to Breezy - Dependency problem Message-ID: Hi all, I'm getting this error message when trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy: language-pack-kde-es-base trying to overwrite ' /usr/share/locale-langpack/es/LC_MESSAGES/kaffeine.mo' , which is also in package language-pack-es-base. I have had this problem on 2 very different computers, one of them was a fresh install of hoary. I could solve it on my box, which had synaptic installed, but I haven't been able to solve it on the other one with apt. Could this be a bug? Should I report it? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gunksta at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 14:09:48 2005 From: gunksta at gmail.com (Andy Choens) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 10:09:48 -0400 Subject: QT locales and fonts Message-ID: <5536eac60510080709u48fce29doc0ff059554d0be22@mail.gmail.com> In my quest to get OpenOffice.org to open using the KDE theme I have figured out that my problem has to do with my QT and locales. When I try to run OpenOffice from within KDE I get the following error. I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "en_US.UTF-8" I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale "en_US" I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "C" Qt: Locales not supported on X server ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. OpenOffice will open, but it won't use the KDE theme. It looks like something out of windows 95. It does try to ape the system colors. In contrast, when I open OpenOffice in XFCE, it uses the GTK theme just fine. KDE apps open without this kind of an error. However, I was intrigued when I found that Scribus exits with a similar error. When I try to start Scribus it tells me there are no suitable fonts on my system. I have this gut feeling that these are the same problem, viewed through different lenses. I have tried to reconfigure locales, libqt3-mt, openoffice.org2, and my xserver at one time or another. I even added spanish to my system and switched to it as my local language, but got the same error. I sortof know where my problem is, but I don't know what to do about it. I started this new thread because I no longer think OpenOffice is actually my problem. I think it is merely a symptom. Programs that use QT directly seem to be having locale issues and thus won't start, or won't use the QT/KDE theme. --andy From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 18:19:00 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 11:19:00 -0700 Subject: Is anyone out there? Message-ID: <43480D94.4060306@gmail.com> Just Wondering.... -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2005 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Weserved From sean.sweng at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 18:57:30 2005 From: sean.sweng at gmail.com (Sean Kelley) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 13:57:30 -0500 Subject: Help : Accidently deleted Kubuntu Breezy Source.list from Release Candidate Message-ID: <43507b7c0510081157h21fbbd9fgb5f33f43540e08d9@mail.gmail.com> Could you please email me the Kubuntu Breezy Source.list file from the Release Candidate? I accidently screwed up mine using easyKubuntu. Thanks! Sean From np5b at get2net.dk Sat Oct 8 19:26:43 2005 From: np5b at get2net.dk (Hans Christian Andersen) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 21:26:43 +0200 Subject: Is anyone out there? In-Reply-To: <43480D94.4060306@gmail.com> References: <43480D94.4060306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1128799604.7116.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> I think we are a lot out here lør, 08 10 2005 kl. 11:19 -0700, skrev Scott: > > Just Wondering.... > > -- > Scott > http://angrykeyboarder.com > © 2005 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Weserved > > > From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Sat Oct 8 22:02:16 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.P.M.Koendering) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:02:16 +0200 Subject: Is anyone out there? In-Reply-To: <1128799604.7116.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <43480D94.4060306@gmail.com> <1128799604.7116.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200510090002.17109.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Yep there is more then 1 ,2 ,3 .................. Ruud Dutch Security On Sat October 8 2005 21:26, Hans Christian Andersen wrote: > I think we are a lot out here > > lør, 08 10 2005 kl. 11:19 -0700, skrev Scott: > > Just Wondering.... > > > > -- > > Scott > > http://angrykeyboarder.com > > © 2005 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Weserved From mcurley at eol.ca Sun Oct 9 02:31:01 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 22:31:01 -0400 Subject: Initial partitioning of hard disk for Breezy In-Reply-To: <200510071821.47315.tim@penhey.net> References: <200510071821.47315.tim@penhey.net> Message-ID: <200510082231.01483.mcurley@eol.ca> On Friday 07 October 2005 13:21, Tim Penhey wrote: > Hi have Kubuntu running on Hoary right now, but when I did my > initial formatting I have just the root dir. > > /etc/fstab looks like this: > > tim at spike:~$ cat /etc/fstab > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc /proc proc defaults 0 > 0 /dev/hda6 / reiserfs notail 0 > 1 /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 > 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 > 0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 > 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 > 0 > > Now that I am looking to upgrade to Breezy I am wondering if I > screwed up at the start. I am starting to see the benefits of > having home on a separate partition. > I assume that hda5 and 6 are at the end of the partition table. If not and there is at least 3 gig's free, you can create a new partition - hda7. Perhaps a new hard drive, hdb would be in the budget? > I do still have a 40 gig partition that holds Windows XP that I > haven't booted into for six months so maybe it is time for that to > go. > I don't know the current state of the Linux replacement for PartitionMagic but we didn't use to be able to change any partition sizes ahead of those in use. So you would have to use all the hda1 - 40 megs for Breezy, quite a waste. If you can save your Home directory to removeable media [ Zip, USB drive etc ] and your main config files in /etc, then just repartition the drive into 3 primary and an extended and whatever logicals that there are room for. > Thanks, > > If I do a clean install of Breezy, what would you suggest for > partitions? > I'll leave this til we hear back from you about the size and state of hda. > Next question: > > If I do a clean install of Breezy into the current XP space, how > can I keep all my emails... currently using Kontact. > As long as your user ID is the same number, then just copy the Hoary files back to your home directory, especially /.kde. Copy them to Suse10, Mandriva or whatever else you try out in the future. This doesn't always work when KDE does a mojor revision but no problem Hoary to Breezy. Merv -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From tim at penhey.net Sun Oct 9 15:26:26 2005 From: tim at penhey.net (Tim Penhey) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:26:26 +0100 Subject: Initial partitioning of hard disk for Breezy In-Reply-To: <200510082231.01483.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <200510071821.47315.tim@penhey.net> <200510082231.01483.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510091626.26516.tim@penhey.net> On Sunday 09 October 2005 03:31, Merv Curley wrote: > On Friday 07 October 2005 13:21, Tim Penhey wrote: > > Hi have Kubuntu running on Hoary right now, but when I did my > > initial formatting I have just the root dir. > > > > /etc/fstab looks like this: > > > > tim at spike:~$ cat /etc/fstab > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > > # > > # > > proc /proc proc defaults 0 > > 0 /dev/hda6 / reiserfs notail 0 > > 1 /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 > > 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 > > 0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 > > 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 > > 0 > > > > I do still have a 40 gig partition that holds Windows XP that I > > haven't booted into for six months so maybe it is time for that to > > go. > > I don't know the current state of the Linux replacement for > PartitionMagic but we didn't use to be able to change any partition > sizes ahead of those in use. So you would have to use all the hda1 > - 40 megs for Breezy, quite a waste. If you can save your Home > directory to removeable media [ Zip, USB drive etc ] and your main > config files in /etc, then just repartition the drive into 3 primary > and an extended and whatever logicals that there are room for. hda is currently hda1 40G ntfs partition hda5 1.1G swap hda6 33G reiserfs as / I booted into the Breezy install and played with the partitioner and was considering hda1 20G ext3 as / hda7 20G ext3 as /home It had marked hda5 (swap) as to reformat it and hda6 mounted as /media/hda6 If I did this, does it in any way effect my Hoary install on hda6? I am assuming that the formatting of the hda5 swap partition won't effect Hoary. Also will this then give me both Hoary and Breezy in GRUB? Or do I have to mark hda6 as still bootable in order for it to appear in GRUB? Thanks Tim From philmullane at earthlink.net Sun Oct 9 19:34:22 2005 From: philmullane at earthlink.net (Phil Mullane) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:34:22 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu-5.10 Message-ID: <434970BE.6090902@earthlink.net> I have a great installation of the KDE version of Breezy Badger Kubuntu-5.10. However, there doesn't seem to be an "Unofficial Guide" for it, like there is for 5.04. In the list of repositories, is it OK to change "Hoary" to "Breezy" and cut and paste to "/etc/apt/sources.list"? For example, change: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted to: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted Or, is there a repository list for Breezy that I haven't found yet? Thanks, Phil From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Oct 9 19:45:44 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:45:44 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu-5.10 In-Reply-To: <434970BE.6090902@earthlink.net> References: <434970BE.6090902@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Phil Mullane wrote: > I have a great installation of the KDE version of Breezy Badger > Kubuntu-5.10. However, there doesn't seem to be an "Unofficial Guide" > for it, like there is for 5.04. > > In the list of repositories, is it OK to change "Hoary" to "Breezy" and > cut and paste to "/etc/apt/sources.list"? > For example, change: > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted > #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted > > to: > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted > #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted > > > Or, is there a repository list for Breezy that I haven't found yet? > > Thanks, > Phil > I would think so... Not official though ;) Is there going to be a breezy backports repo as well..? Presuming so eventually yes?? From gunksta at gmail.com Sun Oct 9 20:41:52 2005 From: gunksta at gmail.com (Andy Choens) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:41:52 -0400 Subject: Locales and Errors Message-ID: <5536eac60510091341w50511df1id43bf80bd7bc4b17@mail.gmail.com> Is there anyone else out there getting errors with OpenOffice not able to find libpangohack.so.0.0? It's in my my libs32, but OOo doesn't seem to be able to find it for some reason. As I stare at this more, I think maybe locales aren't my problem as much as I thought. I'm getting locale errors when I run this under XFCE too, but it loads with the GTK theme, so maybe this pangohack....which error is the one I need to figure out. It's there and seems to have the same permissons the other libs have, but OOo can't see it. andy at Exile:~$ oowriter2 I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "en_US.UTF-8" I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "en_US" I18N: X Window System doesn't support locale "C" Qt: Locales not supported on X server ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. I also seem to have this at the beginning of my xsession-errors.... Xsession: X session started for andy at Sun Oct 9 16:10:20 EDT 2005 xset: bad font path element (#69), possible causes are: Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions Directory missing fonts.dir Incorrect font server address or syntax startkde: Starting up... I've googled the hell out of this and I haven't gotten anywhere. I am not sure what is supposed to be in fonts.dir, but I have one in every folder in /usr/share/X11/fonts. I seem to have 10 of them counting the one cinelerra contributes. How do I set the locale for the 32-bit libraries on 64 bit machine? I'm wondering if dpkg-reconfigure locale is not fixing the problem, because the 32bit libs aren't responsive to what 64bit dpkg. Just a thought. I will entertain ALL suggestions. I have decided that I'm going to figure this out. It's just going to take a while I'm afraid. --andy From mloriz at comfia.ccoo.es Mon Oct 10 06:52:26 2005 From: mloriz at comfia.ccoo.es (miquel loriz toro) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:52:26 +0200 Subject: screen "dirt" in non kde apps In-Reply-To: References: <200510061018.27090.mloriz@comfia.ccoo.es> Message-ID: <200510100852.26564.mloriz@comfia.ccoo.es> El Jueves 06 Octubre 2005 11:27, Martin J Hooper escribió: , . I can't remember doing anything special but the thing is that > > non KDE applications (firefox or NVU) doesn't display very well. I see a > > lot of lines and dirt when scrolling. This is not happening with Kde > > applications. I've changed the resolution in KDE but I don't know how to > > do anything for the other aplications. > > I don't know if this will help or not but if you install > gtk2-engines-gtk-qt it makes your GTK2 apps use KDE themes. This could > solve your problem - not sure though. Thank you, I tried it but it didn't work -- Miquel Lóriz From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Tue Oct 11 02:47:19 2005 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:47:19 +1000 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes Message-ID: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Hello Everyone... I have 'breezy-badger' RC1 running quite happily on this iMac. It is even better after I extended the repositories to include the universes, and ran 'install kde' ... to get some updates happening! I have no complaints about the software that is provided ... but I wonder if adopting KOffice would be a better substitute for OpenOffice (as provided). My machine has plenty of RAM (256 Meg) but only a slow old G3 processor. OpenOffice bogs it down to a crawl! I downloaded KOffice and for preparation/editing of documents I find it much more responsive. On another machine I have tried Abiword ... but I wonder what others think of the current version of KOffice?? Richard PS Thanks to the Kubuntu writers for providing a bang-up-to-date version of linux for the ppc which works with no probs from the outset!!! -- -- Irena & Richard Jenkins VK1NDV & VK1RJ Canberra, AUSTRALIA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Tue Oct 11 03:10:03 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:10:03 -0500 Subject: New to Kubuntu Message-ID: <434B2D0B.40800@bellsouth.net> I have been using Linux as my primary OS for about three months. I just switched from Mandrivia to the Breezy Badger and must say I am extremely impressed. The new Adept package manager is awesome. I had trouble with Mandrivia's rpm manager sometime - I never could get it to install PHP correctly. But with Breezy Apache, PHP, MySQL, and everything else installed very easily. This is very close to a Linux distro I can recommend to my dad (i.e. the computer-illiterate type who just uses his PC for email and surfing the net). Keep up the good work! From todd at toddyarling.com Tue Oct 11 18:07:10 2005 From: todd at toddyarling.com (Todd Yarling) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:07:10 -0400 Subject: UPGRADING TO BREEZY FUBAR Message-ID: <434BFF4E.6060502@toddyarling.com> Trying to upgrade, but its stuck on xkeyboard-config It gives an error when unzipping the archive, about notbeing able to deal with /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/init, cant overright it and then an error about subprocess paste killed by a broken pipe this is when i run apt-get install -f eek! what should I do? From donald_allwright at yahoo.com Tue Oct 11 22:18:54 2005 From: donald_allwright at yahoo.com (Donald Allwright) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:18:54 +0100 (BST) Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051011221854.68646.qmail@web51306.mail.yahoo.com> > I have no complaints about the software that is provided ... but I > wonder if > adopting KOffice would be a better substitute for OpenOffice (as > provided). > My machine has plenty of RAM (256 Meg) but only a slow old G3 > processor. > OpenOffice bogs it down to a crawl! I downloaded KOffice and for > preparation/editing of documents I find it much more responsive. > > On another machine I have tried Abiword ... but I wonder what others > think of > the current version of KOffice?? I did a comparison of KOffice when it was at 1.4, and although much faster than OpenOffice, it had problems with some features in the documents I was editing; so I stuck with OpenOffice for the time being. However, as KOffice 1.4.2 is just out today, I will probably try this as it's had lots of bug- and compatibility-fixes that should improve things a lot. It's just _so_ much faster, even on my relatively fast machine. Looks like packages are now available for both Ubuntu and SuSE, so will install them shortly....... -- 43 - slightly more than the answer to life, the universe and everything. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 11 19:17:38 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:17:38 -0300 Subject: UPGRADING TO BREEZY FUBAR References: <434BFF4E.6060502@toddyarling.com> Message-ID: Todd Yarling wrote: > Trying to upgrade, but its stuck on xkeyboard-config > > It gives an error when unzipping the archive, about notbeing able to > deal with /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/init, cant overright it and then an error > about subprocess paste killed by a broken pipe > > this is when i run apt-get install -f > > eek! what should I do? dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard* then continue with the original upgrade. -- derek From tulga at netsoft.mn Thu Oct 13 10:48:06 2005 From: tulga at netsoft.mn (tulga at netsoft.mn) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:48:06 +0800 Subject: KDE 3.4 to 3.5 on AMD64 Message-ID: <200510131848.06320.tulga@netsoft.mn> Hi all! I am using Kubuntu 5.4 AMD64. I want to upgrade KDE 3.4 to 3.5 beta 1. Is it possible? From jr at jriddell.org Wed Oct 12 11:29:59 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:29:59 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] KDE 3.4 to 3.5 on AMD64 In-Reply-To: <200510131848.06320.tulga@netsoft.mn> References: <200510131848.06320.tulga@netsoft.mn> Message-ID: <20051012112958.GG11663@muse.19inch.net> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 06:48:06PM +0800, tulga at netsoft.mn wrote: > I am using Kubuntu 5.4 AMD64. I want to upgrade KDE 3.4 to 3.5 beta 1. Is it > possible? There's no packages available currently I'm afraid. Jonathan Riddell From todd at toddyarling.com Wed Oct 12 15:01:33 2005 From: todd at toddyarling.com (Todd Yarling) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:01:33 -0400 Subject: UPGRADING TO BREEZY FUBAR In-Reply-To: References: <434BFF4E.6060502@toddyarling.com> Message-ID: <434D254D.1050106@toddyarling.com> Derek Broughton wrote: >Todd Yarling wrote: > > > >>Trying to upgrade, but its stuck on xkeyboard-config >> >>It gives an error when unzipping the archive, about notbeing able to >>deal with /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/init, cant overright it and then an error >>about subprocess paste killed by a broken pipe >> >>this is when i run apt-get install -f >> >>eek! what should I do? >> >> > >dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard* > >then continue with the original upgrade. > > this seems to have worked so far, thanks From domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it Wed Oct 12 10:42:26 2005 From: domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it (Scido) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:42:26 +0200 Subject: koffice 1.4.2 packages for amd64? Message-ID: <200510121242.40231.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Hi, I read that koffice 1.4.2 is out. In the repository I found amd64 packages for hoary, but using apt-get it says there's no Packages.gz file. Why? Shall I wait for fixing or download each package one by one (noo please!!)? Many thanks Scido -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jr at jriddell.org Thu Oct 13 01:53:15 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 02:53:15 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] koffice 1.4.2 packages for amd64? In-Reply-To: <200510121242.40231.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> References: <200510121242.40231.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <20051013015314.GL11663@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 12:42:26PM +0200, Scido wrote: > Hi, I read that koffice 1.4.2 is out. In the repository I found amd64 packages > for hoary, but using apt-get it says there's no Packages.gz file. Why? Shall > I wait for fixing or download each package one by one (noo please!!)? Should be fixed now, sorry about that. Jonthan From tulga at netsoft.mn Thu Oct 13 02:03:54 2005 From: tulga at netsoft.mn (tulga at netsoft.mn) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:03:54 +0800 Subject: When KDE 3.5 In-Reply-To: <20051013015314.GL11663@muse.19inch.net> References: <200510121242.40231.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> <20051013015314.GL11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200510131003.54974.tulga@netsoft.mn> Hi! When release KDE 3.5 and Kubuntu with KDE 3.5? Regards, Tulga.G From cddesjardins at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 02:16:52 2005 From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher David Desjardins) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:16:52 -0600 Subject: When KDE 3.5 In-Reply-To: <200510131003.54974.tulga@netsoft.mn> References: <200510121242.40231.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> <20051013015314.GL11663@muse.19inch.net> <200510131003.54974.tulga@netsoft.mn> Message-ID: <434DC394.3060704@gmail.com> tulga at netsoft.mn wrote: >Hi! > >When release KDE 3.5 and Kubuntu with KDE 3.5? > >Regards, >Tulga.G > > > I imagine Kubuntu w/ KDE 3.5 won't be officially released for 6 months, if I am correct. Becase 5.10 is being released soon (the 13th?) and it is shipped with 3.4. You can add 3.5Beta repositories to sources.list and get KDE 3.5 Beta. But I don't imagine it will be shipped together for a while. C From jhuniepi at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 07:28:09 2005 From: jhuniepi at gmail.com (jhuniepi) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:28:09 +0800 Subject: im new in the list Message-ID: im about to download kubuntu 5.10 -- cj pangilinan linux user, java programmer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jr at jriddell.org Thu Oct 13 07:57:12 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:57:12 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] im new in the list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051013075712.GN11663@muse.19inch.net> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 03:28:09PM +0800, jhuniepi wrote: > > im about to download kubuntu 5.10 Excellent :) It's not yet on all the mirrors, see http://kubuntu.org/download.php for the ones that have it (don't get the Release Candidate). Also see my blog on planet.kde.org/planet.ubuntu.com for some of the known issues which will be fixed in -updates soon. Jonathan Riddell From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Thu Oct 13 15:01:48 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.P.M.Koendering) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:01:48 -0500 Subject: Installing Kubuntu 5.10 RC Message-ID: <200510131001.48711.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Could install 5.10 but DHCP could not be set automaticly. What do I need (which program) to set my adsl modem? after installation. Found out that final kubuntu 5.10 is out today! Is problem for DHCP setting solved? -- Vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards, Rudolf From dripple2 at laposte.net Thu Oct 13 13:00:05 2005 From: dripple2 at laposte.net (Dripple) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:00:05 +0200 Subject: Screenlock --> Unable to unlock Message-ID: Hi all, I upgraded my KUbuntu to Breezy today, and I'm not able to unlock the screen when screensaver is activated. Always tells me "Wrong password", while login or sudo is OK. Box : French version 5.10 Thanks for help. Dripple From dripple2 at laposte.net Thu Oct 13 13:37:02 2005 From: dripple2 at laposte.net (Dripple) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:37:02 +0200 Subject: Unable to mount USB device Message-ID: Hi, since I upgraded to 5.10, I can not mount USB devices. Here is the message I get in KDE : Un problème s'est produit lors du chargement de media:/sdb1 : Le fichier ou le dossier media:/sdb1 n'existe pas. (An error has occured while loadind media:/sdb1 : File or folder media:/sdb1 does not exists.) Any help ? Here is /var/log/message tail when plugging key : Oct 13 15:36:28 localhost kernel: [4295152.027000] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 Oct 13 15:36:28 localhost kernel: [4295152.124000] scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Oct 13 15:36:28 localhost usb.agent[9922]: usb-storage: already loaded Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.130000] Vendor: USB Model: BAR Rev: 2.00 Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.130000] Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.250000] sdb: Unit Not Ready, sense: Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.251000] : Current: sense key: Unit Attention Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.251000] Additional sense: Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.253000] SCSI device sdb: 511744 512-byte hdwr sectors (262 MB) Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.256000] sdb: Write Protect is off Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.271000] SCSI device sdb: 511744 512-byte hdwr sectors (262 MB) Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.274000] sdb: Write Protect is off Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.275000] /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.284000] Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost scsi.agent[9986]: sd_mod: loaded sucessfully (for disk) Thanks for any help. Dripple From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 13 13:51:05 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:51:05 -0500 Subject: Upgrading from Breezy RC-1 Message-ID: <434E6649.7070409@bellsouth.net> I have been running the release candidate for about a week. Is there an easy way to upgrade to the final release without a reinstall? From sclewin at bmts.com Thu Oct 13 14:12:08 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:12:08 -0400 Subject: Forward of moderated message In-Reply-To: <200510051520.09722.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> References: <200510051520.09722.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> Message-ID: <434E6B38.1090401@bmts.com> Botykai Zsolt wrote: > 2005. október 5. 15.04 dátummal kubuntu-devel-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com ezt > > is there a possibility of installing adobe photoshop > >> in UBUNTU? >> what other WINDOWS-BASED application can i install >> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> You can also simply just use The Gimp, it is in the official Ubuntu repositories. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It just installed, so I wanted to solve "problems", but from the commandline it showed up us: 16:34 > gnome-sudoku Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/games/gnome-sudoku", line 10, in ? from gnome_sudoku.gnome_sudoku import start_game File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gnome_sudoku/gnome_sudoku.py", line 17, in ? pb = gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file(os.path.join(IMAGE_DIR,filename)) gobject.GError: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/gnome-sudoku/Footprints.svg' 16:34 > Any idea how to resolve this? Thx, Zsoltik@ (and sorry 'bout the disclaimer) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Online Business Technologies Corp. shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. In such cases Online Business Technologies Corp. will not bear the responsibility of consequences. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the system manager immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. A levelben foglalt, nem az Online Rt. hivatalos uzletmenetevel kapcsolatos velemenyek vagy mas informaciok vonatkozasaban az Online Rt. nem vallal felelosseget. Amennyiben a level valamely hiba folytan jutott Onhoz, kerjuk, hogy valaszlevelben azonnal ertesitse a rendszer uzemeltetojet, majd torolje ki a levelet rendszerebol! From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 13 14:50:54 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:50:54 -0500 Subject: Upgrading from Breezy RC-1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <434E744E.8070109@bellsouth.net> Thanks. I knew that would work from upgrading from Hoary but wasnt sure about the RC. Steve Kratz wrote: >apt-get update >apt-get upgrade > >Should about do it. > > > > >>I have been running the release candidate for about a week. >> >>Is there an easy way to upgrade to the final release without >>a reinstall? >> >> >> > > > From jpowers at incidentreports.com Thu Oct 13 15:38:15 2005 From: jpowers at incidentreports.com (Jason Powers) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:38:15 -0400 Subject: gnome-sudoku problem In-Reply-To: <200510131636.25626.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> References: <200510131636.25626.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> Message-ID: <200510131138.15303.jpowers@incidentreports.com> I don't know how to resolve that issue, but you could install klik and ksudoku. For me it only took one line in konsole and I was set. Klik is VERY cool. http://klik.atekon.de/ Jason On Thursday 13 October 2005 10:36, Botykai Zsolt wrote: > Hi for everyone, > I'm a breezy user and recognized that the only sudoku software available in > the repos is the one mentioned in , so I planned to gave it a try. > It just installed, so I wanted to solve "problems", but from the > commandline it showed up us: > > 16:34 > gnome-sudoku > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/games/gnome-sudoku", line 10, in ? > from gnome_sudoku.gnome_sudoku import start_game > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gnome_sudoku/gnome_sudoku.py", > line 17, in ? > pb = gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file(os.path.join(IMAGE_DIR,filename)) > gobject.GError: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file > '/usr/share/gnome-sudoku/Footprints.svg' > 16:34 > > > Any idea how to resolve this? > Thx, > Zsoltik@ > (and sorry 'bout the disclaimer) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not > relate to the official business of Online Business Technologies Corp. > shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. In such cases > Online Business Technologies Corp. will not bear the responsibility of > consequences. > If you have received this communication in error, please notify the > system manager immediately by responding to this email and then delete > it from your system. > > > A levelben foglalt, nem az Online Rt. hivatalos uzletmenetevel kapcsolatos > velemenyek vagy mas informaciok vonatkozasaban az Online Rt. nem vallal > felelosseget. > Amennyiben a level valamely hiba folytan jutott Onhoz, kerjuk, hogy > valaszlevelben azonnal ertesitse a rendszer uzemeltetojet, majd torolje ki > a levelet rendszerebol! -- Jason Powers Developer IncidentReports, Inc From stevek at cipafilter.com Thu Oct 13 15:52:02 2005 From: stevek at cipafilter.com (Steve Kratz) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:52:02 -0500 Subject: mailing list "problem" in kubuntu list. Message-ID: On all of the other Ubuntu lists I'm on, I hit "reply" and I get the list address. On kubuntu, my replies go directly to the original sender's email address. I have to hit reply-to-all and then delete the extra email address for it to go to the list. FYI for the list maintainers. From carloscarnero at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 17:42:11 2005 From: carloscarnero at gmail.com (Carlos A. Carnero Delgado) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:42:11 -0400 Subject: Not a great time to download? Message-ID: <2cbf87d0510131042q73f27a36xfe816da11ce04ea0@mail.gmail.com> Hi, on kubuntu's download page (http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php) there are two URLs listed (http://82.211.81.152/kubuntu/5.10/ and http://82.211.81.153/kubuntu/5.10/.) Are they currently overwhelmed or is it just me? I'm trying to download the ISO but the browser times out. The torrent download times out as well. Best regards, Carlos. From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 13 17:51:30 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:51:30 +0100 Subject: Not a great time to download? In-Reply-To: <2cbf87d0510131042q73f27a36xfe816da11ce04ea0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cbf87d0510131042q73f27a36xfe816da11ce04ea0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Carlos A. Carnero Delgado wrote: > Hi, > > on kubuntu's download page (http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php) there > are two URLs listed (http://82.211.81.152/kubuntu/5.10/ and > http://82.211.81.153/kubuntu/5.10/.) Are they currently overwhelmed or > is it just me? I'm trying to download the ISO but the browser times > out. > > The torrent download times out as well. > > Best regards, > Carlos. > I think they are overwhelemed... I upgraded a couple of days ago to beat the rush and got 122K/Sec Did a standard upgrade today and the speed was half that it normally is... From zsolt.botykai at online.hu Thu Oct 13 18:19:37 2005 From: zsolt.botykai at online.hu (Botykai Zsolt) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:19:37 +0200 Subject: gnome-sudoku problem In-Reply-To: <200510131138.15303.jpowers@incidentreports.com> References: <200510131636.25626.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> <200510131138.15303.jpowers@incidentreports.com> Message-ID: <200510132019.37374.zsolt.botykai@online.hu> I set up klik as mentioned on it's homepage but with ksoduke I can only get error while trying to install :-( 2005. október 13. 17.38 dátummal Jason Powers ezt írta: > I don't know how to resolve that issue, but you could install klik and > ksudoku. For me it only took one line in konsole and I was set. Klik is > VERY cool. > > http://klik.atekon.de/ > > Jason > > On Thursday 13 October 2005 10:36, Botykai Zsolt wrote: > > Hi for everyone, > > I'm a breezy user and recognized that the only sudoku software available > > in the repos is the one mentioned in , so I planned to gave it a > > try. It just installed, so I wanted to solve "problems", but from the > > commandline it showed up us: > > > > 16:34 > gnome-sudoku > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/games/gnome-sudoku", line 10, in ? > > from gnome_sudoku.gnome_sudoku import start_game > > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gnome_sudoku/gnome_sudoku.py", > > line 17, in ? > > pb = gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file(os.path.join(IMAGE_DIR,filename)) > > gobject.GError: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file > > '/usr/share/gnome-sudoku/Footprints.svg' > > 16:34 > > > > > Any idea how to resolve this? > > Thx, > > Zsoltik@ > > (and sorry 'bout the disclaimer) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Online Business Technologies Corp. shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. In such cases Online Business Technologies Corp. will not bear the responsibility of consequences. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the system manager immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. A levelben foglalt, nem az Online Rt. hivatalos uzletmenetevel kapcsolatos velemenyek vagy mas informaciok vonatkozasaban az Online Rt. nem vallal felelosseget. Amennyiben a level valamely hiba folytan jutott Onhoz, kerjuk, hogy valaszlevelben azonnal ertesitse a rendszer uzemeltetojet, majd torolje ki a levelet rendszerebol! From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 13 17:28:16 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:28:16 -0300 Subject: mailing list "problem" in kubuntu list. References: Message-ID: Steve Kratz wrote: > On all of the other Ubuntu lists I'm on, I hit "reply" and I get the > list address. > > On kubuntu, my replies go directly to the original sender's email > address. I have to hit reply-to-all and then delete the extra email > address for it to go to the list. It's Kubuntu, so you're using KMail, right? Use "reply-to-list". I can't actually see a difference between ubuntu-users and kubuntu-users because I get them via gmane and the KNode news reader. (OK, I know better, but wouldn't you be happier using KMail?) -- derek From franka at svpal.org Thu Oct 13 18:46:17 2005 From: franka at svpal.org (Frank Arnold) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:46:17 -0700 Subject: Upgrade question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200510131146.20240.franka@svpal.org> Question on upgrading with a CD: Does the CD format the drive so that you lose all your data or do you get an "upgrade" option like other distributions? Frank Arnold From stevek at cipafilter.com Thu Oct 13 19:04:54 2005 From: stevek at cipafilter.com (Steve Kratz) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:04:54 -0500 Subject: mailing list "problem" in kubuntu list. Message-ID: Unfortunately I do all my list reading at work (hey, we sell a linux-based router/spam filter, so I consider it work related!) but I'm stuck with Outlook :/ Reply-to-list? Whazzat ;) > It's Kubuntu, so you're using KMail, right? Use > "reply-to-list". I can't actually see a difference between > ubuntu-users and kubuntu-users because I get them via gmane > and the KNode news reader. > > (OK, I know better, but wouldn't you be happier using KMail?) > From larry at killianonline.net Thu Oct 13 19:29:54 2005 From: larry at killianonline.net (Larry H Killian) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:29:54 -0500 Subject: Not a great time to download? In-Reply-To: <2cbf87d0510131042q73f27a36xfe816da11ce04ea0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cbf87d0510131042q73f27a36xfe816da11ce04ea0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1129231794.7971.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm trying to do a small update of two packages (<10MB) and it is taking forever. Lots of water through a small pipe. Larry H. Killian larry at killianonline.net "Peace when possible; war when necessary." On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 13:42 -0400, Carlos A. Carnero Delgado wrote: > Hi, > > on kubuntu's download page (http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php) there > are two URLs listed (http://82.211.81.152/kubuntu/5.10/ and > http://82.211.81.153/kubuntu/5.10/.) Are they currently overwhelmed or > is it just me? I'm trying to download the ISO but the browser times > out. > > The torrent download times out as well. > > Best regards, > Carlos. > Larry H. Killian larry at killianonline.net "Peace when possible; war when necessary." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If that still doesn't work disable the locking feature, it may be a bug and be fixed when you upgrade kde. -- *~~~~~~~~~~~DakaR From troywill1 at gmail.com Thu Oct 13 21:41:47 2005 From: troywill1 at gmail.com (Troy Williams) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:41:47 -0500 Subject: GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? Message-ID: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> I have been using Breezy for awhile and the updates (yesterday I believe) seem to have broken crypto in Kmail. Unable to sign/encrypt mail due to it inability to use pgp. Is anyone else seeing this or knows of a solution? Thanks. Troy -- Troy Williams GPG Key: 1024D/FACE63E3 2005-04-20 Troy Williams (Gmail Account Key) From sebas at kde.nl Thu Oct 13 22:24:35 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:24:35 +0200 Subject: GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510140024.35494.sebas@kde.nl> On Thursday 13 October 2005 23:41, Troy Williams wrote: > I have been using Breezy for awhile and the updates (yesterday I believe) > seem to have broken crypto in Kmail. Unable to sign/encrypt mail due to it > inability to use pgp. Is anyone else seeing this or knows of a solution? Both, see http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17546 It'll hopefully be fixed fast, people are aware of the problem, but it came to light too late to make it into the breezy release. Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FORCE YOURSELF TO RELAX! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Otherwise I might end up downloading for a couple of days to find myself with a corrupted file or an interupted download.) cheers, Simon From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 00:33:49 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:33:49 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Breezy DVD images, here you go! (+ Can someone seed me the PPC-version?) In-Reply-To: <5503891D-6C92-4C71-8DD6-845DC526F839@iki.fi> References: <5503891D-6C92-4C71-8DD6-845DC526F839@iki.fi> Message-ID: Heh... forgot to paste the URL :-) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/ On Oct 14, 2005, at 03:31, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > Hi! > > After much searching I finally figured out where the Kubuntu Breezy > DVD:s were hidden... :-) > Actually I only found them because somebody pointed to the same > server to get Ubuntu DVD:s. > > BTW. Could somebody do me a favour and seed the PPC version. It's > available for http-download too, but since I'm on a 512kb/s line I > wouldn't like to download through anything but BitTorrent since > that's the only safe way. (Otherwise I might end up downloading for > a couple of days to find myself with a corrupted file or an > interupted download.) > > cheers, Simon > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Fri Oct 14 02:28:31 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:28:31 -0500 Subject: Very disappointed Message-ID: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> I just upgraded from Breezy RC-1. The release version of Breezy does not seem to recognize my IPod or USB flash drive. The RC version did without a hitch. I did use apt-get upgrade. Did anyone else notice these problems? If so, I will reinstall the RC. From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Fri Oct 14 02:44:37 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:44:37 -0500 Subject: Very disappointed In-Reply-To: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> References: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <434F1B95.7010900@bellsouth.net> Plugging in a flash drive gives me this message an error occured while loading media:/sda1 The file or folder does not exist In fact the folder does exist. I never had to do anything to the fstab directory to get the flash drive working before. could something have been corrupted in the upgrade? Unless others have had problems with the release distribution I will just do a reinstall. Jay Ouzts wrote: > I just upgraded from Breezy RC-1. The release version of Breezy does > not seem to recognize my IPod or USB flash drive. The RC version did > without a hitch. > > I did use apt-get upgrade. Did anyone else notice these problems? > If so, I will reinstall the RC. > From dripple2 at laposte.net Fri Oct 14 05:46:00 2005 From: dripple2 at laposte.net (Dripple) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:46:00 +0200 Subject: Very disappointed In-Reply-To: <434F1B95.7010900@bellsouth.net> References: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> <434F1B95.7010900@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <434F4618.4080608@laposte.net> Just have the same problem. For the moment, using Gnome, where all works flawlessly... Jay Ouzts a écrit : > Plugging in a flash drive gives me this message > > an error occured while loading media:/sda1 > The file or folder does not exist > > In fact the folder does exist. > > I never had to do anything to the fstab directory to get the flash drive > working before. could something have been corrupted in the upgrade? > > Unless others have had problems with the release distribution I will > just do a reinstall. > > > Jay Ouzts wrote: > >> I just upgraded from Breezy RC-1. The release version of Breezy does >> not seem to recognize my IPod or USB flash drive. The RC version did >> without a hitch. >> >> I did use apt-get upgrade. Did anyone else notice these problems? >> If so, I will reinstall the RC. >> > > From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 08:41:49 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:41:49 +0300 Subject: Very disappointed In-Reply-To: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> References: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <3AE988B7-6C34-47A1-9B6D-47480718C62F@iki.fi> Why do you use RC versions when the actual release is out since yesterday? cheers, Simon On Oct 14, 2005, at 05:28, Jay Ouzts wrote: > I just upgraded from Breezy RC-1. The release version of Breezy > does not seem to recognize my IPod or USB flash drive. The RC > version did without a hitch. > > I did use apt-get upgrade. Did anyone else notice these > problems? If so, I will reinstall the RC. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 08:44:54 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:44:54 +0300 Subject: Very disappointed In-Reply-To: <3AE988B7-6C34-47A1-9B6D-47480718C62F@iki.fi> References: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> <3AE988B7-6C34-47A1-9B6D-47480718C62F@iki.fi> Message-ID: <26B1465E-E353-44EE-A3E5-EB3AEB892590@iki.fi> Oh sorry... I just realised that I misread your mail... Well... my advice would maybe be to be patient... report the bug, and wait for it to be fixed. You probably want to upgrade at some point anyways... cheers, Simon On Oct 14, 2005, at 11:41, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > Why do you use RC versions when the actual release is out since > yesterday? > > cheers, Simon > > > On Oct 14, 2005, at 05:28, Jay Ouzts wrote: > > >> I just upgraded from Breezy RC-1. The release version of Breezy >> does not seem to recognize my IPod or USB flash drive. The RC >> version did without a hitch. >> >> I did use apt-get upgrade. Did anyone else notice these >> problems? If so, I will reinstall the RC. >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From delriojr at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 08:54:11 2005 From: delriojr at gmail.com (Jose Ramon del Rio) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:54:11 +0200 Subject: Unable to mount USB device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I have the same problem. May be a bug ?? On 10/13/05, Dripple wrote: > > Hi, > > since I upgraded to 5.10, I can not mount USB devices. Here is the > message I get in KDE : > Un problème s'est produit lors du chargement de media:/sdb1 : > Le fichier ou le dossier media:/sdb1 n'existe pas. > > (An error has occured while loadind media:/sdb1 : > File or folder media:/sdb1 does not exists.) > > Any help ? > > Here is /var/log/message tail when plugging key : > > Oct 13 15:36:28 localhost kernel: [4295152.027000] usb 2-2: new full > speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 > Oct 13 15:36:28 localhost kernel: [4295152.124000] scsi2 : SCSI > emulation for USB Mass Storage devices > Oct 13 15:36:28 localhost usb.agent[9922]: usb-storage: already loaded > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.130000] Vendor: USB > Model: BAR Rev: 2.00 > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.130000] Type: > Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.250000] sdb: Unit Not Ready, > sense: > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.251000] : Current: sense key: > Unit Attention > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.251000] Additional sense: > Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.253000] SCSI device sdb: > 511744 512-byte hdwr sectors (262 MB) > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.256000] sdb: Write Protect is > off > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.271000] SCSI device sdb: > 511744 512-byte hdwr sectors (262 MB) > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.274000] sdb: Write Protect is > off > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.275000] > /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost kernel: [4295157.284000] Attached scsi > removable disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > Oct 13 15:36:33 localhost scsi.agent[9986]: sd_mod: loaded > sucessfully (for disk) > > > Thanks for any help. > > Dripple > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgvirtual at akl.lt Fri Oct 14 09:08:56 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:08:56 +0300 Subject: Unable to mount USB device In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <434F75A8.5090502@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jose Ramon del Rio ra??: > Hi, > > I have the same problem. > > May be a bug ?? > > On 10/13/05, Dripple wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>since I upgraded to 5.10, I can not mount USB devices. Here is the >>message I get in KDE : >>Un problème s'est produit lors du chargement de media:/sdb1 : >>Le fichier ou le dossier media:/sdb1 n'existe pas. >> >>(An error has occured while loadind media:/sdb1 : >>File or folder media:/sdb1 does not exists.) >> >>Any help ? >> You could try to access it via: /media/sda1/ I had that problem with the preview release live cd, and this actual mount point did the trick. It was automounted. Donatas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQ091qPDtAb8AVdgrAQKvvwQAvAVxd1CUz4B2jwnNr1BK4W8nOJuguaJJ HdyFbTEIrY/OnI3ezewWKYJjQ0gAG+seDXaC0R5kkOzPYaViuyP4/33SONbU8424 9Y0jshgfAdbXQ68hK9/UZPlTdMgwczPBWC2dKu9FAWu1AsCqBciX8y0KgfyOXfi6 eMMyZ2X2bEA= =TD5H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 11:36:25 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:36:25 +0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing Message-ID: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> Hi! I just upgraded to breezy (I've got both ubuntu and kubuntu-desktops installed). It seems like when I try to install something containing qt-stuff the following happends. (apt-get wants to remove a bunch of stuff) Please also note the GPG thing when I do "apt-get update" it could have something to do with this problem, but I don't understand how. cheers, Simon root at HyddBuntu:~ # apt-get update Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg [189B] Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg [189B] Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release.gpg [189B] Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Sources Fetched 191B in 1s (185B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems root at HyddBuntu:~ # apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... 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Done Building dependency tree... 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xserver-xorg-input-dynapro xserver-xorg-input-elographics xserver-xorg-input-fpit xserver-xorg-input-hyperpen xserver-xorg- input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-magellan xserver-xorg-input-microtouch xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-mutouch xserver-xorg- input-palmax xserver-xorg-input-penmount xserver-xorg-input-spaceorb xserver-xorg-input-summa xserver-xorg-input-tek4957 xserver-xorg- input-void xserver-xorg-input-wacom xset xsetmode xsetpointer xsetroot xstdcmap xtrap xvidtune xvinfo xwd xwininfo xwud Suggested packages: rar aspell-doc spellutils monopd kdesdk-doc-html hplip kworldclock kttsd konq-speaker koffice-doc-html mtools lame egroupware efax hylafax-client mgetty-fax gv kommander-dev kdewebdev-doc-html kleopatra spamassassin clamav f-prot-installer gpg wordnet libsoap- lite-perl kdeartwork-emoticons kdetoys-doc-html libcairo2-doc libgnomecanvas2-doc gphoto2 gtkam libgtk2.0-doc ttf-thryomanes libpango1.0-doc libqt3-mt-psql libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc libqt3-i18n qt3-doc pinentry-doc python-qt3-doc python2.4-qt3-gl libqt3c102-mt-mysql libqt3c102-mt-odbc libqt3c102-mt-psql gubed ctags vim-doc cscope libglide2 Recommended packages: arj ncompress zoo vorbis-tools openoffice.org-mimelnk xfonts- konsole ruby gocr qca-tls kscreensaver-xsavers libmysqlclient14-dev libqt3-compat-headers phpdoc wdg-html-reference docbook-defguide libgl1-mesa-dri xkeyboard-config The following packages will be REMOVED: amarok amarok-arts aspell-bin dbus-qt-1 dbus-qt-1-dev firestarter gdm gksu gnome-desktop-environment gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-office gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnumeric gnumeric-common hwdb-client juk k3b k3blibs kaffeine kdelibs4 kdemultimedia kdm kubuntu-desktop kvim kynaptic libarts1 libarts1-xine libgksu1.2-0 libgksuui1.0-0 libopenexr2 libqt3c102-mt libtag1 libwv2-1 lyx lyx-common lyx-qt ubuntu-desktop x-window-system-core xbase-clients The following NEW packages will be installed: appres beforelight bitmap bluez-cups editres fstobdf gstreamer0.8- musepack hplip-base hplip-data hplip-ppds iceauth ico kdelibs4c2 kdewebdev kthesaurus launchpad-integration libaa1 libarts1c2 libbluetooth1 libcairo2 libcairo2-dev libdrm1 libexif12 libflac++5c2 libflac7 libgnome-menu2 libgoffice-1-common libiw28 liblaunchpad- integration0 libmpcdec3 libmysqlclient14 liboggflac3 libopenexr2c2 libqt3-mt libslang2 libtag1c2 libwpd8c2 libwv2-1c2 libxau-dev libxfixes-dev listres lsb-core lsb-cxx lsb-graphics mesa-utils oclock sanekonsole smproxy viewres vim-gtk x-common x11perf x11proto-core-dev x11proto-fixes-dev x11proto-xext-dev xauth xbiff xcalc xclipboard xclock xconsole xcursorgen xditview xdpyinfo xdriinfo xev xeyes xf86dga xfd xfontsel xgamma xgc xhost xinit xkbutils xkill xload xlogo xlsatoms xlsclients xlsfonts xmag xman xmessage xmodmap xmore xpmutils xprop xrandr xrdb xrefresh xrgb xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-driver- apm xserver-xorg-driver-ark xserver-xorg-driver-ati xserver-xorg- driver-chips xserver-xorg-driver-cirrus xserver-xorg-driver-cyrix xserver-xorg-driver-dummy xserver-xorg-driver-fbdev xserver-xorg- driver-glint xserver-xorg-driver-i128 xserver-xorg-driver-i810 xserver-xorg-driver-mga xserver-xorg-driver-neomagic xserver-xorg- driver-nv xserver-xorg-driver-rendition xserver-xorg-driver-s3 xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge xserver-xorg-driver-savage xserver- xorg-driver-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-driver-sis xserver-xorg-driver- tdfx xserver-xorg-driver-tga xserver-xorg-driver-trident xserver-xorg- driver-tseng xserver-xorg-driver-v4l xserver-xorg-driver-vesa xserver-xorg-driver-vga xserver-xorg-input-acecad xserver-xorg- input-aiptek xserver-xorg-input-calcomp xserver-xorg-input-citron xserver-xorg-input-digitaledge xserver-xorg-input-dmc xserver-xorg- input-dynapro xserver-xorg-input-elographics xserver-xorg-input-fpit xserver-xorg-input-hyperpen xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg- input-magellan xserver-xorg-input-microtouch xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-mutouch xserver-xorg-input-palmax xserver-xorg- input-penmount xserver-xorg-input-spaceorb xserver-xorg-input-summa xserver-xorg-input-tek4957 xserver-xorg-input-void xserver-xorg- input-wacom xset xsetmode xsetpointer xsetroot xstdcmap xtrap xvidtune xvinfo xwd xwininfo xwud The following packages will be upgraded: akode akregator ark arts artsbuilder aspell atlantik atlantikdesigner cervisia dcoprss gnome-keyring gtk2-engines-gtk-qt gwenview kaddressbook kaddressbook-plugins kalarm kamera kappfinder karbon karm kate kate-plugins kaudiocreator kcalc kcharselect kchart kcontrol kcron kde-style-lipstik kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin-kfile- plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs kdelibs-bin kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia- kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesdk-kfile-plugins kdesktop kfilereplace kfind kfloppy kformula kgamma kghostview kgpg khelpcenter kicker kicker-applets kimagemapeditor kitchensync kivio kivio-data klaptopdaemon klinkstatus klipper kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmilo kmix kmldonkey kmrml knetworkconf knewsticker knode knotes koffice-data koffice-libs kolourpaint kommander kompare konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konserve konsole konsolekalendar kontact konversation kooka kopete korganizer koshell kpager kpdf kpersonalizer kpf kpilot kppp kpresenter krdc kregexpeditor krfb kscd kscreensaver ksig ksim ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash kspread ksvg ksync ksysguard ksysguardd ktnef kugar kuser kwalletmanager kweather kwifimanager kwin kword kxmleditor kxsldbg libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libaspell-dev libaspell15 libcvsservice0 libgnome-keyring-dev libgnome-keyring0 libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomecanvas2-dev libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgphoto2-2 libgsf-1 libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-dev libkcal2a libkcddb1 libkdegames1 libkdepim1 libkgantt0 libkipi0 libkleopatra0a libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 libmimelib1a libopenexr-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libpango1.0-dev libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev librss1 libxau6 libxext-dev libxext6 libxfixes3 lsb lsb-base metacity networkstatus noatun noatun-plugins pinentry-qt python2.4-qt3 python2.4-sip4-qt3 qt3-dev-tools quanta quanta-data secpolicy vim vimpart x-dev xorg-common xserver-xorg 188 upgraded, 153 newly installed, 40 to remove and 317 not upgraded. Need to get 146MB/164MB of archives. After unpacking 70.6MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? From sclewin at bmts.com Fri Oct 14 11:38:06 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:38:06 -0400 Subject: Very disappointed In-Reply-To: <26B1465E-E353-44EE-A3E5-EB3AEB892590@iki.fi> References: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> <3AE988B7-6C34-47A1-9B6D-47480718C62F@iki.fi> <26B1465E-E353-44EE-A3E5-EB3AEB892590@iki.fi> Message-ID: <434F989E.9090501@bmts.com> Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > my advice would maybe be to be patient... report the bug, and wait for > it to be fixed. I don't know if that works. I have been using breezy Pre-release for a little while now and all the problems I had before I still have now after the final was released. I still need to run pppoeconf from console every time I boot up to get Internet and I, among several other people, have reported this problem. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From viru at bzimage.us Fri Oct 14 12:00:35 2005 From: viru at bzimage.us (Pawel Kowalak) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:00:35 +0200 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> Message-ID: <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> On Friday 14 October 2005 13:36, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > I just upgraded to breezy (I've got both ubuntu and kubuntu-desktops > installed). It seems like when I try to install something containing > qt-stuff the following happends. (apt-get wants to remove a bunch of > stuff) > Please also note the GPG thing when I do "apt-get update" it could > have something to do with this problem, but I don't understand how. Always do apt-get dist-upgrade. From james at grayonline.id.au Fri Oct 14 12:12:26 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:12:26 +1000 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> Message-ID: <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> On Friday 14 October 2005 21:36, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > Hi! > > I just upgraded to breezy (I've got both ubuntu and kubuntu-desktops > installed). Are you sure you upgraded? To me it looks like you did an "apt-get upgrade" instead of an "apt-get dist-upgrade". > It seems like when I try to install something containing > qt-stuff the following happends. (apt-get wants to remove a bunch of > stuff) Actually it saying a bunch of stuff is "kept back" meaning it wont be upgraded to the more recent version that's in the repository. Are you sure you did a "dist-upgrade" to go from Hoary to Breezy? The other thing is that after you ask to install a specific KDE package (kwebdev) the summary says: "188 upgraded, 153 newly installed, 40 to remove and 317 not upgraded." Looks like a normal upgrade to me. The 317 not upgraded are probably due to fact dpkg needs to remove some obsolete packages to install the new ones. Ordinarily this is only done when you specify "dist-upgrade". Read "man apt". > Please also note the GPG thing when I do "apt-get update" it could > have something to do with this problem, but I don't understand how. Doubt it - it's just a warning that some packages can't be verified. Others on this list will no doubt impart clues as to where the correct keys can be sourced. My suggestion: 1. Run "apt-get dist-upgrade" 2. Run "apt-get -f install" if you get any errors from #1. 3. Repeat #2 until the errors go away (if you have any at all). 4. Repeat #1 and make sure its says there's nothing left to upgrade. If a new kernel was installed, reboot. If you run non-packaged binary drivers (Ati/nVidia spring to mind) make sure you know how to re-install them before rebooting. FWIW - the Hoary->Breezy is a snack compared to the pure Debian Woody->Sarge upgrade. The process I've outlined above is what I had to do for Woody->Sarge on my Debian servers (messy). One other thing, if you get problems with some xFOO-packages complaining they can't update a file because it belong to another package, remember the solution: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xFOO-package.1.1.1-arch.deb HTH, James -- Political history is far too criminal a subject to be a fit thing to teach children. -- W.H. Auden -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Fri Oct 14 12:41:46 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:41:46 -0500 Subject: All seems well for now In-Reply-To: <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <434FA78A.4080205@bellsouth.net> Ok, I reinstalled RC-1. Then instead of using apt-get I used adept to fecth updates and do a full upgrade. It still gives me the error when I plug-in the USB device BUT when I click ok it detects the device and I can access data. Ipod is detected although I have not had time to mount it One possible explanation: previously I had uncommented out the lines in sources.list so I could access packages in the ubuntu universe. From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Fri Oct 14 12:54:07 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:54:07 -0500 Subject: All seems well for now In-Reply-To: <434FA78A.4080205@bellsouth.net> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> <434FA78A.4080205@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <434FAA6F.70802@bellsouth.net> Oops. Not so well. I can read from the flash drive but not write to it. Mounting the I-pod doesnt work at all. :( Jay Ouzts wrote: > Ok, I reinstalled RC-1. Then instead of using apt-get I used adept to > fecth updates and do a full upgrade. > > It still gives me the error when I plug-in the USB device BUT when I > click ok it detects the device and I can access data. Ipod is > detected although I have not had time to mount it > > > One possible explanation: previously I had uncommented out the lines > in sources.list so I could access packages in the ubuntu universe. > From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 13:09:25 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:09:25 +0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <6A91E404-3513-465E-B0CF-00AAD4DD7E75@iki.fi> On Oct 14, 2005, at 15:12, James Gray wrote: > Are you sure you upgraded? To me it looks like you did an "apt-get > upgrade" > instead of an "apt-get dist-upgrade". No... :-) I had a hard time finding info on how to upgrade from hoary to breezy. The info I eventually found was that one should change the sources.list so that it says breezy where it used to say hoary. (And also comment out backports stuff if one uses such.) Now that I write "apt-get dist-upgrade" I get the following, looks scary too since ie. kubuntu-desktop is to be removed, but not really installed again or anything. Is it alright? # apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: abiword-common abiword-gnome abiword-help abiword-plugins abiword- plugins-gnome aspell-bin capplets dbus-1 dbus-1-dev dbus-glib-1 dbus-glib-1-dev dbus-qt-1 dbus-qt-1-dev gnome-office kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kubuntu-desktop kvim libaiksaurus0c102 libaiksaurusgtk0c102 libarts1 libarts1-dev libcamel1.2-3 libdirectfb-0.9-20 libebook1.2-3 libedataserverui1.2-4 libenchant1 libesd0 libgc1 libgconfmm-2.6-1 libgconfmm2.0-1c102 libgda2-1 libglademm-2.4-1 libglademm2.0-1c102 libglibmm-2.4-1 libgnome-vfsmm-2.6-1 libgnomecanvasmm-2.6-1 libgnomecanvasmm2.0-1c102 libgnomedb2-3 libgnomemm-2.6-1 libgnomemm2.0-1 libgnomeuimm-2.6-1 libgnomeuimm2.0-1 libgnomeuimm2.0-dev libgtkmm-2.4-1 libgtkmm2.0-1c102 libhal-storage0 libhal0 libid3-3.8.3 libmodplug0 libmusicbrainz2 libmusicbrainz4 libnautilus- burn1 libopenexr-dev libopenexr2 libopenh323-1.15.2 libostyle1 libpt-1.8.3 libqt3-mt-dev libqt3c102-mt libsigc++-1.2-5c102 libsigc+ +-2.0-0 libsmpeg0 libstdc++6-0-dev libtag1 libtunepimp2 libwv2-1 libxine1 mozilla-firefox-gnome-support openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us postfix-tls ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-quickguide x-window-system-core xlibmesa-dri xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev The following NEW packages will be installed: adept appres beforelight binutils-static bitmap bluez-cups bluez- pin bluez-utils bogofilter-bdb bogofilter-common bsh busybox-cvs- initramfs cpp-4.0 dbus debtags dirmngr editres evince evolution-plugins fastjar firefox firefox-gnome-support fstobdf g++-4.0 gcc-4.0 gij gij-4.0 gnome-backgrounds gnome-terminal-data gnupg2 gpgsm gstreamer0.8- musepack gstreamer0.8-swfdec gtk2-engines-crux gtk2-engines- lighthouseblue gtkhtml3.8 hplip-base hplip-data hplip-ppds ia32-libs-kde iceauth ico imake initramfs-tools ivman java-gcj-compat kaboodle kaffeine-gstreamer kandy katapult kcoloredit kdat kde-guidance kde- systemsettings kdebluetooth kdelibs4c2 kdelirc kdessh kdf kdict kdvi kedit kfax kget khexedit kiconedit kio-apt kio-locate kjots kleopatra klibc-utils kmid korn kpackage kpovmodeler krec krita kruler ksirc ksystemlog ksysv kthesaurus ktimer ktip kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-docs kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kuickshow kview kviewshell language-selector lapack3 launchpad-integration lesstif1 lib32gcj6 lib32stdc++6 lib32z1 libaa1 libaiksaurus0 libaiksaurusgtk0 libarts1-mpeglib libarts1c2 libaspell15c2 libatm1 libbind9-0 libbluetooth1 libcairo2 libcairo2-dev libcamel1.2-6 libcompfaceg1 libconvert-binhex-perl libdbus-1-1 libdbus-glib-1-1 libdbus- qt-1-1c2 libdc1394-13 libdevmapper1.01 libdirectfb-0.9-22 libdjvulibre15 libdns20 libdrm1 libebook1.2-5 libecal1.2-3 libedataserverui1.2-6 libedit2 libegroupwise1.2-8 libesd-alsa0 libevent1 libexchange-storage1.2-0 libexif12 libflac++5c2 libflac7 libfontenc1 libg2c0 libgc1c2 libgcj-common libgcj6 libgcj6-common libgconfmm-2.6-1c2 libgconfmm2.0-1 libgda2-3 libgl1-mesa libgl1- mesa-dri libglademm-2.4-1c2 libglademm2.0-1 libglibmm-2.4-1c2 libgnome-menu2 libgnome-vfsmm-2.6-1c2 libgnomecanvasmm-2.6-1c2 libgnomecanvasmm2.0-1 libgnomedb2-4 libgnomemm-2.6-1c2 libgnomemm2.0-1c2 libgnomeuimm-2.6-1c2 libgnucrypto-java libgnujaxp-java libgnujaxp- jni libgoffice-1 libgoffice-1-common libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2 libgtkmm2.0-1c2 libhal-storage1 libhal1 libhsqldb-java libid3-3.8.3c2 libisc9 libisccc0 libisccfg1 libiw28 libjaxp1.2-java libjessie-java libklibc libksba8 liblaunchpad-integration0 liblockdev1 liblpint- bonobo0 libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libmusicbrainz2c2 libmusicbrainz4c2 libmysqlclient14 libnautilus-burn2 libnfsidmap1 libnotify0 liboggflac3 liboil0.3 libopenct1 libopenexr2c2 libopenh323-1.15.3c2 libopenobex-1.0-0 libopensc1 libostyle1c2 libpcsclite1 libpoppler0c2 libpoppler0c2-glib libpq4 libpt-1.8.3c2 libpt-plugins-v4l libpythonize0 libqt3-mt libservlet2.3-java libsigc++-1.2-5c2 libsigc++-2.0-0c2 libslang2 libsmpeg0c2 libsoup2.2-8 libstdc++6-4.0-dev libstdc++6-dev libtag1c2 libtiffxx0c2 libtotem-plparser0 libtunepimp2c2 libwnck18 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xserver-xorg-driver-cyrix xserver-xorg-driver-dummy xserver-xorg-driver-fbdev xserver-xorg-driver-glint xserver-xorg- driver-i128 xserver-xorg-driver-i810 xserver-xorg-driver-mga xserver-xorg-driver-neomagic xserver-xorg-driver-nv xserver-xorg- driver-rendition xserver-xorg-driver-s3 xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge xserver-xorg-driver-savage xserver-xorg-driver-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-driver-sis xserver-xorg-driver-tdfx xserver-xorg-driver-tga xserver-xorg-driver-trident xserver-xorg-driver-tseng xserver-xorg- driver-v4l xserver-xorg-driver-vesa xserver-xorg-driver-vga xserver-xorg-input-acecad xserver-xorg-input-aiptek xserver-xorg- input-calcomp xserver-xorg-input-citron xserver-xorg-input-digitaledge xserver-xorg-input-dmc xserver-xorg-input-dynapro xserver-xorg- input-elographics xserver-xorg-input-fpit xserver-xorg-input-hyperpen xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-magellan xserver-xorg- input-microtouch xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-mutouch xserver-xorg-input-palmax xserver-xorg-input-penmount xserver-xorg- input-spaceorb xserver-xorg-input-summa xserver-xorg-input-tek4957 xserver-xorg-input-void xserver-xorg-input-wacom xset xsetmode xsetpointer xsetroot xsm xstdcmap xtrap xvidtune xvinfo xwd xwininfo xwud The following packages have been kept back: bittorrent-gui The following packages will be upgraded: aalib1 acpi-support akode akregator alsa-base alsa-utils amarok amarok-arts apt apt-utils aptitude ark arts artsbuilder aspell aspell-en aspell-fi aspell-sv atlantik atlantikdesigner base-config bind9- host bluefish bogofilter bug-buddy capplets-data cervisia contact-lookup-applet cpp cpp-3.4 cupsys dbus-1-utils dcoprss dia- common dia-gnome dia-libs directvnc dmsetup dnsutils eject eog evolution evolution-data-server evolution-exchange evolution-webcal ffmpeg file-roller g++ g++-3.4 gaim gaim-data gcalctool gcc gcc-3.4 gconf- editor gconf2 gdesklets gdesklets-data gdm gedit gedit-common gettext gftp-common gftp-gtk gimp 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Need to get 669MB/686MB of archives. After unpacking 604MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? > My suggestion: > 1. Run "apt-get dist-upgrade" > 2. Run "apt-get -f install" if you get any errors from #1. > 3. Repeat #2 until the errors go away (if you have any at all). > 4. Repeat #1 and make sure its says there's nothing left to upgrade. > > If a new kernel was installed, reboot. If you run non-packaged > binary drivers > (Ati/nVidia spring to mind) make sure you know how to re-install > them before > rebooting. > > FWIW - the Hoary->Breezy is a snack compared to the pure Debian > Woody->Sarge > upgrade. The process I've outlined above is what I had to do for > Woody->Sarge on my Debian servers (messy). > > One other thing, if you get problems with some xFOO-packages > complaining they > can't update a file because it belong to another package, remember the > solution: > dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xFOO-package. > 1.1.1-arch.deb I'll try that stuff once you tell me not to worry... :-) cheers, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 14 12:36:04 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 09:36:04 -0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: Pawel Kowalak wrote: > On Friday 14 October 2005 13:36, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: >> I just upgraded to breezy (I've got both ubuntu and kubuntu-desktops >> installed). It seems like when I try to install something containing >> qt-stuff the following happends. (apt-get wants to remove a bunch of >> stuff) >> Please also note the GPG thing when I do "apt-get update" it could >> have something to do with this problem, but I don't understand how. > > Always do apt-get dist-upgrade. I'd disagree slightly - I think he was right to try "upgrade" first - because it won't do anything scary. In this case, though, it wouldn't do anything at all (probably because there's a libc transition in there). After upgrade, dist-upgrade. There's certainly no way you can just randomly install a single package and expect everything to work. As for the GPG thing, it's exactly what it says - such errors occur either when you can't retrieve the keys (stupid firewall at work blocks such traffic!) or when the keys are actually not valid (a problem I've seen too often in Ubuntu), and so you need to be able to assure yourself these are genuine packages. It's never _likely_ to be a problem, but somebody _could_ potentially be trying to load trojans to your system. It's reasonably safe to assume that it has nothing to do with your problem. -- derek From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 14:04:10 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:04:10 +0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> On Oct 14, 2005, at 15:36, Derek Broughton wrote: > Pawel Kowalak wrote: > > >> On Friday 14 October 2005 13:36, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: >> >>> I just upgraded to breezy (I've got both ubuntu and kubuntu-desktops >>> installed). It seems like when I try to install something containing >>> qt-stuff the following happends. (apt-get wants to remove a bunch of >>> stuff) >>> Please also note the GPG thing when I do "apt-get update" it could >>> have something to do with this problem, but I don't understand how. >>> >> >> Always do apt-get dist-upgrade. >> > > I'd disagree slightly - I think he was right to try "upgrade" first - > because it won't do anything scary. In this case, though, it > wouldn't do > anything at all (probably because there's a libc transition in there). > > After upgrade, dist-upgrade. There's certainly no way you can just > randomly > install a single package and expect everything to work. > > As for the GPG thing, it's exactly what it says - such errors occur > either > when you can't retrieve the keys (stupid firewall at work blocks such > traffic!) or when the keys are actually not valid (a problem I've > seen too > often in Ubuntu), and so you need to be able to assure yourself > these are > genuine packages. It's never _likely_ to be a problem, but somebody > _could_ potentially be trying to load trojans to your system. It's > reasonably safe to assume that it has nothing to do with your problem. > -- > derek Hi! So what you are suggesting is to not touch dist-upgrade in case it's suggesting these kind of radical things (as shown in my last mail)? Instead I should just wait and see if I can get this fixed later on just using upgrade, right? cheers, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From viru at bzimage.us Fri Oct 14 14:11:54 2005 From: viru at bzimage.us (Pawel Kowalak) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:11:54 +0200 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: <200510141611.54225.viru@bzimage.us> On Friday 14 October 2005 14:36, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Always do apt-get dist-upgrade. > > I'd disagree slightly - I think he was right to try "upgrade" first - > because it won't do anything scary. In this case, though, it wouldn't do > anything at all (probably because there's a libc transition in there). dist-upgrade won't do anything scary too. You just have to read the output and check if everything will be ok after the upgrade (eg. if there is 100 packages to remove, better check it manually). From viru at bzimage.us Fri Oct 14 14:15:07 2005 From: viru at bzimage.us (Pawel Kowalak) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:15:07 +0200 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: <6A91E404-3513-465E-B0CF-00AAD4DD7E75@iki.fi> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> <6A91E404-3513-465E-B0CF-00AAD4DD7E75@iki.fi> Message-ID: <200510141615.07846.viru@bzimage.us> On Friday 14 October 2005 15:09, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > Now that I write "apt-get dist-upgrade" I get the following, looks > scary too since ie. kubuntu-desktop is to be removed, but not really > installed again or anything. Is it alright? Don't worry, I had almost the same packages to remove. You can do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop after dist-upgrade. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 14 14:31:42 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:31:42 -0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> Message-ID: Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > On Oct 14, 2005, at 15:36, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Pawel Kowalak wrote: >>> >>> Always do apt-get dist-upgrade. >> >> I'd disagree slightly - I think he was right to try "upgrade" first - >> because it won't do anything scary. In this case, though, it >> wouldn't do >> anything at all (probably because there's a libc transition in there). >> >> After upgrade, dist-upgrade. There's certainly no way you can just >> randomly >> install a single package and expect everything to work. >> > So what you are suggesting is to not touch dist-upgrade in case it's > suggesting these kind of radical things (as shown in my last mail)? Absolutely not! You're trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy - of _course_ it's going to make a lot of changes. However, whenever there's this much happening I do "upgrade" first, followed by "dist-upgrade". Upgrade will never add or remove anything, it only upgrades currently installed packages. So what happens when you're doing regular updates of the testing stage (breezy until this week, dapper soon) is that "upgrade" usually installs a lot of stuff, making the "dist-upgrade" step much less frightening. > Instead I should just wait and see if I can get this fixed later on > just using upgrade, right? No, it can't possibly happen. Meanwhile, you say you had trouble finding information about the upgrade process - I've seen at least three posts on this group telling you where to find it. -- derek From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 15:20:39 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:20:39 +0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: <200510141615.07846.viru@bzimage.us> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510142212.32933.james@grayonline.id.au> <6A91E404-3513-465E-B0CF-00AAD4DD7E75@iki.fi> <200510141615.07846.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: <7EDDA886-079D-45F5-A959-7A591CAD7F56@iki.fi> OK, so what you're saying is "apt-get dist-upgrade" and then just "apt-get install" whatever was removed... Do you have any idea of why this has to be done? Seems a bit wierd to me... At least the task should be automated, so that really newbie Linux people also could manage doing an upgrade. cheers, Simon On Oct 14, 2005, at 17:15, Pawel Kowalak wrote: > On Friday 14 October 2005 15:09, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > >> Now that I write "apt-get dist-upgrade" I get the following, looks >> scary too since ie. kubuntu-desktop is to be removed, but not really >> installed again or anything. Is it alright? >> > > Don't worry, I had almost the same packages to remove. You can do > apt-get > install kubuntu-desktop after dist-upgrade. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From viru at bzimage.us Fri Oct 14 15:25:48 2005 From: viru at bzimage.us (Pawel Kowalak) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:25:48 +0200 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: <7EDDA886-079D-45F5-A959-7A591CAD7F56@iki.fi> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141615.07846.viru@bzimage.us> <7EDDA886-079D-45F5-A959-7A591CAD7F56@iki.fi> Message-ID: <200510141725.48768.viru@bzimage.us> On Friday 14 October 2005 17:20, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > OK, so what you're saying is "apt-get dist-upgrade" and then just > "apt-get install" whatever was removed... > Do you have any idea of why this has to be done? Seems a bit wierd to > me... At least the task should be automated, so that really newbie > Linux people also could manage doing an upgrade. You can install only the kubuntu-desktop. The rest of packages should be removed. But I think that second dist-upgrade should install that kubuntu-desktop and everything should be OK. I don't remember exacly the way I did this upgrade, but there wasn't any problems. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 14 15:55:37 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:55:37 -0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <200510141611.54225.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: Pawel Kowalak wrote: > On Friday 14 October 2005 14:36, Derek Broughton wrote: >> > Always do apt-get dist-upgrade. >> >> I'd disagree slightly - I think he was right to try "upgrade" first - >> because it won't do anything scary. In this case, though, it wouldn't do >> anything at all (probably because there's a libc transition in there). > > dist-upgrade won't do anything scary too. It _shouldn't_ when you're upgrading old-stable to new-stable. But when you're upgrading a testing version it quite often can do very scary things. > You just have to read the output > and check if everything will be ok after the upgrade (eg. if there is 100 > packages to remove, better check it manually). And you don't think that's scary for the average user? This specific dist-upgrade wanted to remove 78 packages. I'd consider that scary enough even for an expert. It's removing ALL of KDE for heaven's sake. I suspect his sources are not pristine. It's NOT going to do a safe upgrade. -- derek From viru at bzimage.us Fri Oct 14 16:13:48 2005 From: viru at bzimage.us (Pawel Kowalak) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:13:48 +0200 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141611.54225.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: <200510141813.48593.viru@bzimage.us> On Friday 14 October 2005 17:55, Derek Broughton wrote: > > dist-upgrade won't do anything scary too. > > It _shouldn't_ when you're upgrading old-stable to new-stable. But when > you're upgrading a testing version it quite often can do very scary things. Maybe I'm a lucky guy ;) > > You just have to read the output > > and check if everything will be ok after the upgrade (eg. if there is 100 > > packages to remove, better check it manually). > > And you don't think that's scary for the average user? This specific > dist-upgrade wanted to remove 78 packages. I'd consider that scary enough > even for an expert. It's removing ALL of KDE for heaven's sake. I suspect > his sources are not pristine. It's NOT going to do a safe upgrade. The only KDE connected packages to remove was kdelibs4-dev, kubuntu-desktop and kvim. kubuntu-desktop is a meta package. "It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are not desired." I can't see anything scary in this particular dist-upgrade. From simon at iki.fi Fri Oct 14 16:53:47 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:53:47 +0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> Message-ID: <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> On Oct 14, 2005, at 17:31, Derek Broughton wrote: > Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > > >> On Oct 14, 2005, at 15:36, Derek Broughton wrote: >> So what you are suggesting is to not touch dist-upgrade in case it's >> suggesting these kind of radical things (as shown in my last mail)? >> > > Absolutely not! You're trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy - of > _course_ > it's going to make a lot of changes. However, whenever there's > this much > happening I do "upgrade" first, followed by "dist-upgrade". > Upgrade will > never add or remove anything, it only upgrades currently installed > packages. So what happens when you're doing regular updates of the > testing > stage (breezy until this week, dapper soon) is that "upgrade" usually > installs a lot of stuff, making the "dist-upgrade" step much less > frightening. OK, now since you're all saying I should do the dist-upgrade, I'll do it... And if something screws up badly you'll hear me scream all the way from Finland... ;-) The files are getting downloaded as we speak... and it'll take a couple of hours due to my slow line... So it's not yet too late to interupt in case there's good reason to. But on the other hand, then there should be some solution on how to go further from here... because at some point I will have to upgrade my stuff... >> Instead I should just wait and see if I can get this fixed later on >> just using upgrade, right? >> > > No, it can't possibly happen. > > Meanwhile, you say you had trouble finding information about the > upgrade > process - I've seen at least three posts on this group telling you > where to > find it. I didn't look here... I started at the place where it should be, the infopages at the website... (This is a trivial task that most people will have to do anyways...) Then I started digging through the forums, and eventually found some hints... Just commons searching through forums and stuff, but I was surprised not to find the info almost immediately. Speaking of the forums... I just noticed that there are now different Kubuntu forums plus this mailinglist, wouldn't there be a reason to unify these resources? Now there's at least the Kubuntu section under de Ubuntu forum, the separate Kubuntu forum and this mailinglist. In a sense I think that the most sensible place to discuss would be under the Ubuntu forum, since Kubuntu and Ubuntu have such a lot of things in common. Or essentially they're one single distro pretending to be two. :-) cheers, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From troywill1 at gmail.com Fri Oct 14 17:52:31 2005 From: troywill1 at gmail.com (Troy Williams) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:52:31 -0500 Subject: GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <200510140024.35494.sebas@kde.nl> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> <200510140024.35494.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <434FF05F.6030803@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Thursday 13 October 2005 23:41, Troy Williams wrote: > >>I have been using Breezy for awhile and the updates (yesterday I believe) >>seem to have broken crypto in Kmail. Unable to sign/encrypt mail due to it >>inability to use pgp. Is anyone else seeing this or knows of a solution? > > > Both, see http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17546 > > It'll hopefully be fixed fast, people are aware of the problem, but it came to > light too late to make it into the breezy release. > > Cheers, > Ah, thanks for the information. I should have searched the bugs first. - -- Troy Williams GPG Key: 1024D/FACE63E3 2005-04-20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDT/Bfloraa/rOY+MRAogFAJ0cCk8z8eJX0ejfKgHUM2SqpqUubgCeNvZN 0iV4982oipwtHC/QW0ABrXc= =sX3K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 14 17:34:42 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:34:42 -0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141611.54225.viru@bzimage.us> <200510141813.48593.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: Pawel Kowalak wrote: > On Friday 14 October 2005 17:55, Derek Broughton wrote: >> > dist-upgrade won't do anything scary too. > >> > You just have to read the output >> > and check if everything will be ok after the upgrade (eg. if there is >> > 100 packages to remove, better check it manually). >> >> And you don't think that's scary for the average user? This specific >> dist-upgrade wanted to remove 78 packages. I'd consider that scary >> enough >> even for an expert. It's removing ALL of KDE for heaven's sake. I >> suspect >> his sources are not pristine. It's NOT going to do a safe upgrade. > > The only KDE connected packages to remove was kdelibs4-dev, > kubuntu-desktop and kvim. It seems neither of us read that very well. It removes kdelibs4, which I'd consider essential to any KDE install ... however, I missed that it installs kdelibs4c2, so it doesn't matter. > > I can't see anything scary in this particular dist-upgrade. Still - I think if you can blithely ignore an upgrade that removes kdelibs you're a lot calmer than me :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 14 17:48:31 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:48:31 -0300 Subject: Forums (was Re: Scary upgrade thing References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> Message-ID: Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > Speaking of the forums... I just noticed that there are now different > Kubuntu forums plus this mailinglist, wouldn't there be a reason to > unify these resources? _That_ is as likely to happen as a hoary to breezy upgrade with no scares :-) Many of us don't LIKE forums. Yes, at a mere 47, I'm an old dinosaur, but I don't find most forums readable. > Now there's at least the Kubuntu section under > de Ubuntu forum, the separate Kubuntu forum and this mailinglist. The Ubuntu Forum (or at least _an_ Ubuntu forum - I don't know if we're talking about the same thing) is already gatewayed to the Ubuntu list. Frankly, I wish it either wasn't, or was at least done better, because every post from there comes in as if from 'Forum User, and they never quote (because quoting is mostly unnecessary and always awkward in a forum). I don't know if they've gatewayed the Kubuntu forum, because I killfiled the Forum User posts, as they mostly made no sense. > In a sense I think that the most sensible place to discuss would be > under the Ubuntu forum, since Kubuntu and Ubuntu have such a lot of > things in common. Or essentially they're one single distro pretending > to be two. :-) Try spending a little time on the Ubuntu user list, then. There's a good deal of Gnomish snobbery. See reaction to my recent post after Mark Shuttleworth asked us to participate in an OSDL survey. I complained that the survey didn't work in Konqueror. Most respondents were of the opinion that it didn't matter because it worked in Firefox. One even had the gall to tell me that it wasn't something I should be bringing to the attention of "the developer" because Ubuntu was "about Gnome". Never mind that Ubuntu isn't "about Gnome": OSDL isn't even "about Ubuntu". So what I'm really trying to say, in a long winded way, is that - though you're right that Ubuntu is a single distro - you will get little, if any, help on KDE specific questions from the participants of the Ubuntu list. I still think it's best to follow both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists, though. -- derek From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Oct 14 18:46:45 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:46:45 -0400 Subject: Forums (was Re: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> Message-ID: <434FFD15.2090806@verizon.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > >So what I'm really trying to say, in a long winded way, is that - though >you're right that Ubuntu is a single distro - you will get little, if any, >help on KDE specific questions from the participants of the Ubuntu list. I >still think it's best to follow both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists, though. > > Not to mention that the volume of mail on the Ubuntu-users list is so large that I find it very hard to digest (no pun intended). I pick random places to search for subjects relevant to me. If anything, it should probably be split into sub-lists, perhaps a hoary list and a breezy list (warty?). Maybe an installation issues list, an administration list, an app features list, a possible bugs list, etc.? Personally, I was pleased to find this relatively low volume kubuntu list. I can actually follow most posts. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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I just deduced that some newer version of kdelibs will be installed :) But I didn't make sure, so maybe I'm really calm ;) From mcurley at eol.ca Sat Oct 15 04:30:29 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:30:29 -0400 Subject: Initial partitioning of hard disk for Breezy In-Reply-To: <200510091626.26516.tim@penhey.net> References: <200510071821.47315.tim@penhey.net> <200510082231.01483.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510091626.26516.tim@penhey.net> Message-ID: <200510150030.29834.mcurley@eol.ca> On Sunday 09 October 2005 11:26, Tim Penhey wrote: > > If I did this, does it in any way effect my Hoary install on hda6? > I am assuming that the formatting of the hda5 swap partition won't > effect Hoary. > As Far As I Know - Anything that you change at the start of the disk will affect everything after it. So you will lose your present install. I tried to get that message across before. So save your valuable data and go ahead and repartition the drive. I would say don't bother with a separate /home. Start with 3 primary partitions of perhaps 5-6 gigs. Then your extended which is is the last primary you can have. Now the logicals; a small swap [ hda6 ] of perhaps 200 megs. Then you can adlib additional partitions. Maybe one for backups, one for downloads, one for music or your whatever your interests. As you get more confident with Linux you will want to look at other distros and you have lots of room for more partitions. Install Hoary on hda1, Breezy on hda2, and so on. The installer usually does a half decent job of finding other installations and making entries in Grub. You can copy your home data to new installs with no problems as long as you have the same U.I.D. I long ago decided to stick with 501 as my U.I.D. and since the default user created isn't 501, that can't be me personally, it is the admin user. The admin uses Kuser to create my account with the I.D. I want and set the groups that I want to be in. I also set my default group as users [ I.D. 100 ]. > Also will this then give me both Hoary and Breezy in GRUB? Or do I > have to mark hda6 as still bootable in order for it to appear in > GRUB? > You don't have to mark anything as installable. If you follow my suggestions, the first install will only know about itself. When you do your next install, it will put itself as first Grub entry and should find and make an entry for Hoary. The process continues with each new install. Good luck -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Sat Oct 15 04:40:33 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:40:33 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes In-Reply-To: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> References: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <200510150040.33793.mcurley@eol.ca> On Monday 10 October 2005 22:47, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > Hello Everyone... > > I have 'breezy-badger' RC1 running quite happily on this iMac. It > is even better after I extended the repositories to include the > universes, and ran 'install kde' ... to get some updates happening! > > I have no complaints about the software that is provided ... but I > wonder if adopting KOffice would be a better substitute for > OpenOffice (as provided). My machine has plenty of RAM (256 Meg) > but only a slow old G3 processor. OpenOffice bogs it down to a > crawl! I downloaded KOffice and for preparation/editing of > documents I find it much more responsive. > > On another machine I have tried Abiword ... but I wonder what > others think of the current version of KOffice?? > I would say use the smallest, least featured writer that gets the job done. For a simple note, Kate, If you need simple WYSIWYG then KOffice or whatever. If you need the import filters of OpenOffice or some other feature only it has, then use it, slow as it might be. It is more convenient if all your files are standard format and when Koffice can write Open Document like OpenOffice2, all will be dandy. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From joantur at cancullet.org Sat Oct 15 13:24:30 2005 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:24:30 +0200 Subject: Ac and battery events not working (laptop) Message-ID: <200510151524.31001.joantur@cancullet.org> Hallo! The problem I have with Kubuntu 5.10 (upgraded from hoary) in my laptop (Benq JB7000) is that the AC nor battery events do not run (of course when plugging or unpluggin the laptop to/from AC). They're supposed to run the same script, /etc/acpi/power.sh, and it works as expected if run manually in both ac and battery. Acpid is running (but I'm not sure it's the one who should do the job). Last information I can give you to help me find this is the log output from acpid: Unplugging the laptop (from ac to battery): ----- [Sat Oct 15 00:23:09 2005] received event "processor CPU0 00000080 00000000" [Sat Oct 15 00:23:09 2005] notifying client 5039[111:111] [Sat Oct 15 00:23:09 2005] completed event "processor CPU0 00000080 00000000" ----- Plugging the laptop to AC: ----- [Sat Oct 15 00:27:24 2005] received event "processor CPU0 00000080 00000000" [Sat Oct 15 00:27:24 2005] notifying client 5039[111:111] [Sat Oct 15 00:27:24 2005] completed event "processor CPU0 00000080 00000000" ----- Any idea?? 8-? TIA ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 From delriojr at gmail.com Sat Oct 15 17:36:26 2005 From: delriojr at gmail.com (Jose Ramon del Rio) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:36:26 +0200 Subject: Unable to mount USB device In-Reply-To: <434F75A8.5090502@akl.lt> References: <434F75A8.5090502@akl.lt> Message-ID: Hi, I have add in /etc/fstab the next line : /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk vfat user,auto,gid=100,uid=1000,umask=000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=850 0 0 Now, all is ok. Thank you. On 10/14/05, Donatas G. wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jose Ramon del Rio ra??: > > Hi, > > > > I have the same problem. > > > > May be a bug ?? > > > > On 10/13/05, Dripple wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>since I upgraded to 5.10, I can not mount USB devices. Here is the > >>message I get in KDE : > >>Un problème s'est produit lors du chargement de media:/sdb1 : > >>Le fichier ou le dossier media:/sdb1 n'existe pas. > >> > >>(An error has occured while loadind media:/sdb1 : > >>File or folder media:/sdb1 does not exists.) > >> > >>Any help ? > >> > > You could try to access it via: > > /media/sda1/ > > I had that problem with the preview release live cd, and this actual > mount point did the trick. It was automounted. > > Donatas > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQCVAwUBQ091qPDtAb8AVdgrAQKvvwQAvAVxd1CUz4B2jwnNr1BK4W8nOJuguaJJ > HdyFbTEIrY/OnI3ezewWKYJjQ0gAG+seDXaC0R5kkOzPYaViuyP4/33SONbU8424 > 9Y0jshgfAdbXQ68hK9/UZPlTdMgwczPBWC2dKu9FAWu1AsCqBciX8y0KgfyOXfi6 > eMMyZ2X2bEA= > =TD5H > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, at a mere 47, I'm > an old > dinosaur, but I don't find most forums readable. > > >> Now there's at least the Kubuntu section under >> de Ubuntu forum, the separate Kubuntu forum and this mailinglist. >> > > The Ubuntu Forum (or at least _an_ Ubuntu forum - I don't know if > we're > talking about the same thing) is already gatewayed to the Ubuntu list. > Frankly, I wish it either wasn't, or was at least done better, because > every post from there comes in as if from 'Forum User, and they > never quote > (because quoting is mostly unnecessary and always awkward in a > forum). I > don't know if they've gatewayed the Kubuntu forum, because I > killfiled the > Forum User posts, as they mostly made no sense. Well... you're probably right... but at least unifying the forums would be nice... But maybe maybe GNOME/KDE-religious fanatism would get in the way... ;-) When it comes to the mailinglists it probably doesn't make sense though... just like Art just said (in another post) even the Ubuntu list should be split into many. >> In a sense I think that the most sensible place to discuss would be >> under the Ubuntu forum, since Kubuntu and Ubuntu have such a lot of >> things in common. Or essentially they're one single distro pretending >> to be two. :-) >> > > Try spending a little time on the Ubuntu user list, then. There's > a good > deal of Gnomish snobbery. See reaction to my recent post after Mark > Shuttleworth asked us to participate in an OSDL survey. I > complained that > the survey didn't work in Konqueror. Most respondents were of the > opinion > that it didn't matter because it worked in Firefox. One even had > the gall > to tell me that it wasn't something I should be bringing to the > attention > of "the developer" because Ubuntu was "about Gnome". Never mind that > Ubuntu isn't "about Gnome": OSDL isn't even "about Ubuntu". > > So what I'm really trying to say, in a long winded way, is that - > though > you're right that Ubuntu is a single distro - you will get little, > if any, > help on KDE specific questions from the participants of the Ubuntu > list. I > still think it's best to follow both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists, > though. Oh boy... I remember when I was a kid, there were a lot of Amiga fanatics around... along came the Mac fanatics (who are still around) of which I was one for a long time... Lately I even was kind of Gnome fanatic, just because KDE looked so damn Windows-like. As time went by I just noticed while browsing software in my Synaptic, that much of the software that sounded interesting required a lot of KDE-stuff... Eventually I just threw in the "kubuntu-desktop" package and a few pieces of software that I wanted. After a while I found myself using mostly KDE-software from Gnome, so I even gave KDE itself a try... I made it look like my Gnome, just to get rid of the replusive Windows look. Now I'm a bit unsertain which one to use, I definitely like the KDE software suite better, but Gnome seems somewhat less flickery and flaky than KDE. One could say that KDE stands for quantity and Gnome for quality, when it comes to features. Anyways, due to the richer feature set and flexibility KDE might just be the winner... even though it could lend some of the smoothness from Gnome. Oh now I got way off topic... ;-) And what do I know, but maybe you've got some comments on my highly intuitive and unscientific observations? Well to get to the point: It's good for personal development trying not to be fanatic about anything, fanatism can make you miss a lot of things. ;-) So that's why I'll really TRY to make a sober decision this time around... cheers, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at iki.fi Sat Oct 15 20:23:04 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:23:04 +0300 Subject: Scary upgrade thing In-Reply-To: <200510142124.10334.viru@bzimage.us> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141813.48593.viru@bzimage.us> <200510142124.10334.viru@bzimage.us> Message-ID: <8155B9D5-EC4A-41DE-AD93-5923E90A247C@iki.fi> Hi! I just wanted to report that my upgrade went fine, or at least without any great disaster... Some things behave, funny.... but that might also just be other bugs... I'll wait and see if they get fixed as time goes by, otherwise I'll need to start investigating... cheers, Simon From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Oct 15 19:50:12 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:50:12 -0300 Subject: Forums (was Re: Scary upgrade thing References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> <434FFD15.2090806@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>So what I'm really trying to say, in a long winded way, is that - though >>you're right that Ubuntu is a single distro - you will get little, if any, >>help on KDE specific questions from the participants of the Ubuntu list. >>I still think it's best to follow both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists, >>though. >> >> > Not to mention that the volume of mail on the Ubuntu-users list is so > large that I find it very hard to digest (no pun intended). I pick > random places to search for subjects relevant to me. If anything, it > should probably be split into sub-lists, perhaps a hoary list and a > breezy list (warty?). Maybe an installation issues list, an > administration list, an app features list, a possible bugs list, etc.? > > Personally, I was pleased to find this relatively low volume kubuntu > list. I can actually follow most posts. > I completely agree. I scan the ubuntu list, and even post to it, but I only read selective posts (and I really need to just kill anything that says "gnome" :-)), but I read every kubuntu post. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Oct 15 19:53:31 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:53:31 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes References: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510150040.33793.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: Merv Curley wrote: > On Monday 10 October 2005 22:47, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: >> >> I have no complaints about the software that is provided ... but I >> wonder if adopting KOffice would be a better substitute for >> OpenOffice (as provided). >> >> On another machine I have tried Abiword ... but I wonder what >> others think of the current version of KOffice?? > > I would say use the smallest, least featured writer that gets the job > done. For a simple note, Kate, If you need simple WYSIWYG then > KOffice or whatever. If you need the import filters of OpenOffice or > some other feature only it has, then use it, slow as it might be. I can't comment on the current KOffice, but at my last check it wasn't nearly good enough for "office" use. Whereas, OO2 works well enough for me to use it in an MS Office environment. > It is more convenient if all your files are standard format and when > Koffice can write Open Document like OpenOffice2, all will be dandy. It won't be dandy until MS decides to support Open Document. -- derek From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Thu Oct 6 08:34:45 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:34:45 +0100 Subject: The programing In-Reply-To: References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <1128587685.951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'd just like to say how much I agree with Peter. I'm a newish user of Linux, I love it and feel that it is an absolute boon to the computer user, but it is hard enough to learn how to use it without smart and rude answers to reasonable questions. Most of the stuff written about Linux is utterly incomprehensible to anyone except a reasonably expert user and it does nobody any sort of service to add to the pain of learning with abuse. If we are a community, let's be a loving one, not a bunch of smart-arses - this only betrays a fundamental lack of self-confidence. Linux is great, Linux users are great people, let us be confident in those fact. Best wishes, Derek On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 08:56 +0100, Peter Shillan wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Since I am not a moderator this may carry little weight but I'm going > to say it anyway. The lady who contacted the list may have misspelled > Linux but that is no reason to be rude to her. It seems that English > may not even be her first language. Are there many of us on this list > who could fluently converse in a second language? Probably not as > many as those of another nationality who talk with us in English. > > I know this is an informal list and that questions are answered by > ordinary members but we have to remember that we represent a community > - several even. The Kubuntu community, the Ubuntu community, the > Linux community and the open source community. When we reply to new > (or potentially new) users with sarcasm, acerbic commentary and > rudeness, all we do is make those people decide they don't want to be > a part of it. > > Can we please try to encourage a positive attitude towards those who > know less? Just because something is obvious to you, doesn't make it > obvious to someone who is a new user and perhaps completely new to > computing. > > I think, in short, if you can't answer nicely, don't answer at all. > Someone else will do it. > > Best regards, > > Peter. > From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Thu Oct 6 08:52:14 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:52:14 +0100 Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1128588735.951.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Gawd, Tony - if only! I've been looking for a Janet and John set of instructions since I started using Linux about three months ago. However, I haven't found any instructions that are even halfway comprehensible yet. It's a bit like Microsoft - the folk who write the programs seem unable to write for ordinary users and it's very frustrating. I'm getting to know what I'm doing gradually by reading articles in TUX and the odd note in this conference that makes sense. I bought a for Dummies book to see if that helps - but no. It's not as if I'm thick, I've got two degrees and have been a lecturer for years - not in computer science. When I can do Linux properly, I promise to write a series of step-by step guides, but I reckon it'll take me another year before I feel half way confident. Is there anyone out there who knows Linux and can 'teach' it? Best wishes, Derek On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 19:16 -0700, tony m wrote: > I am a NEW, and cant emphasize that enought NEW Kubuntu User. I have > been a Windows person my whole life, know Macs a bit but no clue on > Linux. I need articles that will literally walk me step by step on how > to install, config, and get aquainted with Linux. I have installed > Kubuntu 5.0.4 but can not even get pass the command line :( I > installed Server Edition/package. > > thank you > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From kmksmulley at onlinehome.de Fri Oct 7 07:15:57 2005 From: kmksmulley at onlinehome.de (KMks) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:15:57 +0200 Subject: Firstclass client In-Reply-To: <20051007035915.75858.qmail@web35514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051007035915.75858.qmail@web35514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510070915.57856.kmksmulley@onlinehome.de> Hi Albert, On Friday 07 October 2005 05:59, Albert Cardarelli wrote: > PS I can't seem to get First Class Client for Linux to run in Kubuntu... Have you tried using Wine (or CrossOver) I have and it works fine so far, I've also converted from a SuSE .rpm to .deb with alien and it also works, on both a Kubuntu 5.04 and 5.10. Regards -- Kevin Mulley kmksmulley at onlinehome.de "Computers are like air conditioners, they don't work if you open windows" From Helmut_Mehringer at web.de Sun Oct 9 19:42:44 2005 From: Helmut_Mehringer at web.de (Helmut Mehringer) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:42:44 +0200 Subject: kubuntu 5.10 - How can I get access to my wireless access point / wlan network???? Message-ID: <005501c5cd09$9eb41950$1464a8c0@asus> How can I get access to my wireless access point / wlan network under KDE in kubuntu 5.10????? Under Gnome (ubuntu 5.10) it's no problem at all. I know, I am a stupid beginner ;-( Helmut From exigentsky at comcast.net Mon Oct 10 03:39:53 2005 From: exigentsky at comcast.net (exigentsky at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:39:53 +0000 Subject: Mounting my ext3 partitions - failure Message-ID: <101020050339.2739.4349E2890002BF2A00000AB3220730079397059C9B020A0907980A@comcast.net> Hi, I just tried the Kubuntu RC and I like it in general. However, I cannot mount my ext3 drives. In every other distribution I tried, like SUSE 10, Linspire and Xandros, all my drives, (Windows, ext3 etc.) were automatically mounted upon bootup. I love this. In Kubuntu, I don't know what to do. I can't access any of my data on these partitions. I've already reat through tutorials and used mount /dev/hda5 but I can't seem to get anything done. Please help me. Thanks in advance, Alex From marco.amadori at gmail.com Tue Oct 11 21:59:16 2005 From: marco.amadori at gmail.com (Marco Amadori) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:59:16 +0200 Subject: media:/ and usb works with kubuntu i386 not on kubuntu amd64 Message-ID: <200510112359.16561.marco.amadori@gmail.com> Hi all, I'm not subscribed so CC me plz: Rather strange, I had a bug with usb disks and kubuntu prereleases on i386 archs that was fixed on recent apt updates. But on a more recent kubuntu 5.10 (yesterday) for amd64 I saw the same bug, already fixed in i386 ubuntu over a week ago, maybe two. The bug was when I connect a usb pen (tried severals) or an external IDE drive and konqueror shows up saying "media:/dev/sdc1 does not exists" but the right device is pmounted on /media/usbdisk and work like a charm. Only the kde part (media:/ and desktop icon that does not shows up) seems to be broken. Also dmesg are fines and like the i386 ones. I know how to manually make it work via fstab, but I lose some multi-usb flexibility that pmount permits me on i386. I Really don't know why it should be related on amd64 if no there is no lag between the archs. btw in debian sid (not particulary related) both in i386 and amd64 media:/ work with usb.. In the same kubuntu 5.10 pre amd64 that I'm talking about, media:/ works for both floppy and cdroms/dvds, at last it seems only to be a usb related bug. -- ESC:wq From hank at r7.dion.ne.jp Wed Oct 12 23:06:09 2005 From: hank at r7.dion.ne.jp (Henri Honda) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:06:09 +0900 Subject: Lists Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20051013080457.00a6a410@pop.r7.dion.ne.jp> Help UNSUBSCRIBE From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Sat Oct 15 21:52:18 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:52:18 +0100 Subject: Upgrade? Message-ID: <1129413138.22693.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> I think my upgrade has gone smoothly but am not sure how I can tell. Cheers, Derek From paul.cooke100 at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Oct 15 22:17:13 2005 From: paul.cooke100 at blueyonder.co.uk (paul cooke) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:17:13 +0100 Subject: Firstclass client In-Reply-To: <200510070915.57856.kmksmulley@onlinehome.de> References: <20051007035915.75858.qmail@web35514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200510070915.57856.kmksmulley@onlinehome.de> Message-ID: <200510152317.13320.paul.cooke100@blueyonder.co.uk> On Friday 07 October 2005 08:15, KMks wrote: > Hi Albert, > > On Friday 07 October 2005 05:59, Albert Cardarelli wrote: > > PS I can't seem to get First Class Client for Linux to run in Kubuntu... > > Have you tried using Wine (or CrossOver) I have and it works fine so far, > I've also converted from a SuSE .rpm to .deb with alien and it also works, > on both a Kubuntu 5.04 and 5.10. > nice to know, I start an OU course in Feb. T396: Artificial Intelligence for Technology reminds me, 'bout time I got them to send me my old password... It's been several years since I last logged in. From franka at svpal.org Sat Oct 15 22:48:47 2005 From: franka at svpal.org (Frank Arnold) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:48:47 -0700 Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <1128588735.951.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1128588735.951.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200510151548.47829.franka@svpal.org> A friend of mine teaaches Linux to a company that is transitioning from Windows. She uses a Book called "Point and Click Linux" which comes with a copy of Mepis Linux, almost as good as Kubuntu, and a DVD of instructions. It would be nice if someone would do the same for Kubuntu/Ubuntu. Frank Arnold On Thursday 06 October 2005 01:52, Derek Shields wrote: > Gawd, Tony - if only! I've been looking for a Janet and John set of > instructions since I started using Linux about three months ago. > However, I haven't found any instructions that are even halfway > comprehensible yet. It's a bit like Microsoft - the folk who write the > programs seem unable to write for ordinary users and it's very > frustrating. > > I'm getting to know what I'm doing gradually by reading articles in TUX > and the odd note in this conference that makes sense. I bought a for > Dummies book to see if that helps - but no. It's not as if I'm thick, > I've got two degrees and have been a lecturer for years - not in > computer science. When I can do Linux properly, I promise to write a > series of step-by step guides, but I reckon it'll take me another year > before I feel half way confident. Is there anyone out there who knows > Linux and can 'teach' it? Best wishes, Derek > > On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 19:16 -0700, tony m wrote: > > I am a NEW, and cant emphasize that enought NEW Kubuntu User. I have > > been a Windows person my whole life, know Macs a bit but no clue on > > Linux. I need articles that will literally walk me step by step on how > > to install, config, and get aquainted with Linux. I have installed > > Kubuntu 5.0.4 but can not even get pass the command line :( I > > installed Server Edition/package. > > > > thank you > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! for Good > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From tim at penhey.net Sat Oct 15 23:36:26 2005 From: tim at penhey.net (Tim Penhey) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:36:26 +0100 Subject: Mounting my ext3 partitions - failure In-Reply-To: <101020050339.2739.4349E2890002BF2A00000AB3220730079397059C9B020A0907980A@comcast.net> References: <101020050339.2739.4349E2890002BF2A00000AB3220730079397059C9B020A0907980A@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200510160036.26526.tim@penhey.net> On Monday 10 October 2005 04:39, exigentsky at comcast.net wrote: > Hi, > > I just tried the Kubuntu RC and I like it in general. However, I cannot > mount my ext3 drives. In every other distribution I tried, like SUSE 10, > Linspire and Xandros, all my drives, (Windows, ext3 etc.) were > automatically mounted upon bootup. I love this. > > In Kubuntu, I don't know what to do. I can't access any of my data on these > partitions. I've already reat through tutorials and used mount /dev/hda5 > but I can't seem to get anything done. > > Please help me. > > Thanks in advance, > Alex Can you post your /etc/fstab file? Also, do you know which partitions you have and what is on them? Tim From xurxo13 at terra.es Sun Oct 16 01:38:29 2005 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo Fernandez) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:38:29 +0200 Subject: Superkaramba References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com><200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> <1128587685.951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <000801c5d1f2$502b4130$0401a8c0@k7> Hi, anyone knows of a repository with the latest version of superkaramba (0.37). Its a huge step over 0.36 and the weather widget worths the update. When i had hoary i got it by upgrading the kde desktop with the 3.5 beta version, but i had to format after a wrong dist-upgrade of breezy. This time i´m sticking to 3.4. Thanks in advance From xurxo13 at terra.es Sun Oct 16 01:43:44 2005 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo Fernandez) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:43:44 +0200 Subject: upgrade experience References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi><200510141813.48593.viru@bzimage.us><200510142124.10334.viru@bzimage.us> <8155B9D5-EC4A-41DE-AD93-5923E90A247C@iki.fi> Message-ID: <000d01c5d1f3$0b880990$0401a8c0@k7> Hi, I had hoary with 3.5 beta desktop and did the apt-get update and dis-upgrade. After that startx wont work (it says it cannot find the x-folder in home directory). It could be caused for the beta desktop, i dont know, but after trying a few things i decided to go windows style and format everything (i had all but mail backed up). Now breezy its working flawless. It's been a huge step for me, since my usb dongle now works great. I didnt have to compile any driver or use ndiswrapper (zyxel b220). Before i had to plug and unplug the dongle several times when loading the hotplug modules to make it work. Anyway, excellent work from the kubuntu guys, thanks a lot. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Rönnqvist" To: "Kubuntu Users List" Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 22:23 Subject: Re: Scary upgrade thing > Hi! > > I just wanted to report that my upgrade went fine, or at least without > any great disaster... > Some things behave, funny.... but that might also just be other bugs... > I'll wait and see if they get fixed as time goes by, otherwise I'll need > to start investigating... > > cheers, Simon > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From james at grayonline.id.au Sun Oct 16 02:15:42 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:15:42 +1000 Subject: Hoary to Breezy - SUCCESS :) Message-ID: <200510161215.42345.james@grayonline.id.au> Rather than repeat myself, I've written up a short-ish blog entry on my website that detail the upgrade. What went right, what went wrong and few first impressions: http://www.grayonline.id.au/article.php?story=20051016111619198 The final outcome is a fully upgraded system that is just humming -and-clicking like any good OS should :) Enjoy! James -- FORTUNE'S RULES TO LIVE BY: #23 Don't cut off a police car when making an illegal U-turn. From mcurley at eol.ca Sun Oct 16 03:05:31 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:05:31 -0400 Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <1128588735.951.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1128588735.951.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200510152305.31860.mcurley@eol.ca> On Thursday 06 October 2005 04:52, Derek Shields wrote: > Gawd, Tony - if only! I've been looking for a Janet and John set of > instructions since I started using Linux about three months ago. > However, I haven't found any instructions that are even halfway > comprehensible yet. It's a bit like Microsoft - the folk who write> I have been using Linux for about 10 years now and we all go through your present stage. Distributions like Suse used to have quite good booklets included but you paid for them with the CD. I suspect that if your send SuSE $100 you will still get some good introductory info. Instead spend that on building your own library. You don't say just where you need help, is it with administration, certain apps or just the building blocks of Unix - Linux? Don't buy a Red Hat or Suse book if you are using Debian, config files etc are quite different between them. My Linux bookshelf is about 6 feet long and that includes books that I haven't looked at in years. Most used now Practical Guide to Linux by Mark Sobell, Addison Wesley Linux System Admin by Marcel Gagne " " Running Linux O'Reilly Publishing As well Sams has some useful books. > I'm getting to know what I'm doing gradually by reading articles in > TUX and the odd note in this conference that makes sense. I bought > a for Dummies book to see if that helps Everything helps believe it or not. Even those incomprehensible 'Man' pages. Join several 'lists' or join forums and read, read, read. Then ask. If you live in a larger city there will probably be a User Group with a 'list', like this. Ours has about 50 messages a day posted, of that 2 or 3 will be something I can use. > When I can do Linux properly, I promise > to write a series of step-by step guides, but I reckon it'll take > me another year before I feel half way confident. Is there anyone > out there who knows Linux and can 'teach' it? Best wishes, Derek > We have one provincial College here than now has Linux courses but the useful ones deal with specific subjects. You will find that the information is out there, use your browser, Google and Yahoo will find info from years back and now, learning keywords to use is the hardest part for me. Good luck and don't be afraid to ask, you might not get an answer here, but you might on a busier list. I joined a Suse list years ago and was quickly overwhelmed by some 500 messages a day and most were the same things over and over. Have fun with the learning experience. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Sun Oct 16 03:19:36 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:19:36 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes In-Reply-To: References: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510150040.33793.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510152319.36583.mcurley@eol.ca> On Saturday 15 October 2005 15:53, Derek Broughton wrote: > > It is more convenient if all your files are standard format and > > when Koffice can write Open Document like OpenOffice2, all will > > be dandy. > > It won't be dandy until MS decides to support Open Document. > -- Only if you have to pass data to Windows users, a situation I am not in. However Microsoft are going to allow Office users to save files in pdf format so Step 1 has been reached. If you pay a few hundred dollars for the privilege of course. If more States act like Mass. then the process will happen quicker of course. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Sun Oct 16 03:42:37 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:42:37 -0400 Subject: Upgrade question In-Reply-To: <200510131146.20240.franka@svpal.org> References: <200510131146.20240.franka@svpal.org> Message-ID: <200510152342.37307.mcurley@eol.ca> On Thursday 13 October 2005 14:46, Frank Arnold wrote: > Question on upgrading with a CD: > Does the CD format the drive so that you lose all your data or > do you get an "upgrade" option like other distributions? > Frank Arnold Well my experiences show most distros suggest a new install for a new release. Many config things etc are liable to change. For example SuSE did not suggest upgrading from 9.3 to 10.0. And when I did the Fedora Core1 to 2, we did new installs. Why not just add Breezy to your sources.lst file and see how it goes? Save all your valuable data tho. eg, I found that Kweather didn't work in Hoary and the upgrade of KDE didn't fix the problem. However in the Breezy release candidate the applet did work. I have no idea what the Gods did which I couldn't figure out. I find it is usually best to install new and copy most of my $HOME directory across and 90% of the applicable /etc files. Then I always have a working fallback. Depending on the entries in your Grub menu you might want to save it and just add Breezy manually. I am still using the SuSE 10 Grub menu for example and I have added 4 distros to it. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.1.0 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Sun Oct 16 04:07:45 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:07:45 -0400 Subject: Lists In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20051013080457.00a6a410@pop.r7.dion.ne.jp> References: <6.0.0.22.0.20051013080457.00a6a410@pop.r7.dion.ne.jp> Message-ID: <200510160007.45231.mcurley@eol.ca> On Wednesday 12 October 2005 19:06, Henri Honda wrote: > Help > UNSUBSCRIBE Why not try this? kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From franka at svpal.org Sun Oct 16 05:40:06 2005 From: franka at svpal.org (Frank Arnold) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:40:06 -0700 Subject: Upgrade question In-Reply-To: <200510152342.37307.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <200510131146.20240.franka@svpal.org> <200510152342.37307.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510152240.06686.franka@svpal.org> Thank you, Merv. I will follow your suggestions. Frank Arnold On Saturday 15 October 2005 20:42, Merv Curley wrote: > On Thursday 13 October 2005 14:46, Frank Arnold wrote: > > Question on upgrading with a CD: > > Does the CD format the drive so that you lose all your data or > > do you get an "upgrade" option like other distributions? > > Frank Arnold > > Well my experiences show most distros suggest a new install for a new > release. Many config things etc are liable to change. For example > SuSE did not suggest upgrading from 9.3 to 10.0. And when I did the > Fedora Core1 to 2, we did new installs. Why not just add Breezy to > your sources.lst file and see how it goes? Save all your valuable > data tho. > > eg, I found that Kweather didn't work in Hoary and the upgrade of KDE > didn't fix the problem. However in the Breezy release candidate the > applet did work. I have no idea what the Gods did which I couldn't > figure out. > > I find it is usually best to install new and copy most of my $HOME > directory across and 90% of the applicable /etc files. Then I always > have a working fallback. Depending on the entries in your Grub menu > you might want to save it and just add Breezy manually. I am still > using the SuSE 10 Grub menu for example and I have added 4 distros to > it. > > > -- > Merv Curley > Toronto, Ont.Can > > Linux Kubuntu 5.1.0 > KDE v. 3.4.2 > Kontact v. 1.1.2 From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Oct 16 06:01:07 2005 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:01:07 -0400 Subject: Superkaramba In-Reply-To: <000801c5d1f2$502b4130$0401a8c0@k7> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com><200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> <1128587685.951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <000801c5d1f2$502b4130$0401a8c0@k7> Message-ID: <4351ECA3.7030601@claydoh.com> Xurxo Fernandez wrote: > Hi, > anyone knows of a repository with the latest version of superkaramba > (0.37). Its a huge step over 0.36 and the weather widget worths the > update. When i had hoary i got it by upgrading the kde desktop with the > 3.5 beta version, but i had to format after a wrong dist-upgrade of > breezy. This time i´m sticking to 3.4. > Thanks in advance > > try this on kde-look: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30207 -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From argymeg at yahoo.com Sun Oct 16 07:51:23 2005 From: argymeg at yahoo.com (Argyris Megalios) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:51:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Xserver dead after upgrade Message-ID: <20051016075123.49479.qmail@web26909.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello. I had two (K)ubuntu Hoary boxes, one for testing and my main system. I downloaded the Kubuntu iso, added it to sources.list in my testbox and upgraded through synaptic. It downloaded the Ubuntu (Gnome) packages which weren't on the cd and it worked like a charm. However, on the other computer, the upgrade was interrupted twice, once claiming some dependency problem about linphone and the other about wxpython and python-wxsomething trying to replace each other's files. I never managed to fix this, so I rebooted. After the reboot, it showed me a console login. I tried startx, but it failed with this message: connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to Xserver no such process (errno 3): server error In a man page I saw something about base-config and I tried running it. After that, every attempt to startx resulted in a system halt. The only thing I saw in the X logs was something about dri not finding any cards, even though it had already loaded the ati drivers. I tried both dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fglrxconfig, but nothing chaged. Can somebody please help? ___________________________________________________________ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Oct 16 09:42:40 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:42:40 +0100 Subject: Screenlock --> Unable to unlock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dripple wrote: > Hi all, > > I upgraded my KUbuntu to Breezy today, and I'm not able to unlock the > screen when screensaver is activated. Always tells me "Wrong password", > while login or sudo is OK. Your not the only one.. Done that to me too. How do I disable the screensaver?? From jpatrickdavies at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 10:08:29 2005 From: jpatrickdavies at gmail.com (Jonathan Patrick Davies) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:08:29 +0200 Subject: Superkaramba In-Reply-To: <4351ECA3.7030601@claydoh.com> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000801c5d1f2$502b4130$0401a8c0@k7> <4351ECA3.7030601@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <200510161208.32280.jpatrickdavies@gmail.com> Or you could try the KDE 3.5 Beta 1 repo which has the lastest SuperKaramba. On Sunday 16 October 2005 08:01, Clay Weber wrote: > Xurxo Fernandez wrote: > > Hi, > > anyone knows of a repository with the latest version of superkaramba > > (0.37). Its a huge step over 0.36 and the weather widget worths the > > update. When i had hoary i got it by upgrading the kde desktop with the > > 3.5 beta version, but i had to format after a wrong dist-upgrade of > > breezy. This time i´m sticking to 3.4. > > Thanks in advance > > try this on kde-look: > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30207 > > -- > Clay Weber > http://claydoh.com > http://emacdogsports.com -- Patrick Davies From richmond at mail.maclaunch.com Sat Oct 15 10:19:10 2005 From: richmond at mail.maclaunch.com (Mathewson) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 06:19:10 -0400 Subject: Getting upset about a Dual-Boot Mac-Mini; AGAIN Message-ID: I am a small-scale developer who needs a portable demonstration system - and to this end would like my mac-mini to function as a dual-boot machine with Ubuntu and Mac OS 10.4. I did not get very far in this respect with the beta version . . . Now I'm "having a go" with the Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger PPC ISO: 1. I partitioned my mac-mini 40 GB disk into 2 equal-sized sections and installed Ubuntu 5.10 final onto the section partition: installation was just as smooth as any other UB/KUB install: BUT . . . the machine would not boot from the 2nd partition: 1.1 rebooted automatically at end of UB install - nothing. 1.2. rebooted via power button and held down ALT button: showed a viable UB partition; on boot started and then shutdown monitor. 2. Repartitioned (using the Mac OS 10.4 install DVD) and installed Mac OS 10.4 onto the 2nd partition - will now try to install Ubuntu 5.10 onto the 1st partition: The result was exactly the same as 1. OH, POO! Richmond Mathewson __________________________________________________ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html _______________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --------------------------------------------------------------- From richmond at mail.maclaunch.com Sat Oct 15 11:23:44 2005 From: richmond at mail.maclaunch.com (Mathewson) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 07:23:44 -0400 Subject: Mac-Mini: Ubuntu single boot fails! Message-ID: Dunno? Maybe I'm even more stupid than I thought I was? Blanked the whole Mac-Mini hard disk and installed Ubuntu 5.10 PPC: lovely, smooth install: no boot!!! This worked with the Beta install!!! Wonder why? Richmond Mathewson __________________________________________________ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html _______________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --------------------------------------------------------------- From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Sun Oct 16 12:16:30 2005 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:16:30 +0100 Subject: Hotplug media names Message-ID: <20051016131630.4c931bec.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Hi everyone, I've recently upgraded two machines from Hoary to Breezy (FWIW one is an X86 desktop box, and the other a G3 iBook). On both of these I'm having a problem with hotplugged media such as a memory stick or a CF reader. Basically the device is detecting OK and creating the relevant device nodes (/dev/sda & /dev/sda1), but the mount point in /media is /media/PENDRIVE or /media/usbdisk instead of /media/sda1. As a result, no device icon appears on the desktop, and the device is not shown when konqueror is pointed at media:/ (I can still mount/unmount with pmount from the command line). Is this a known issue (with Breezy or the upgrade process)? Is there a workaround? TIA James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From sclewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 16 12:39:01 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:39:01 -0400 Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <200510151548.47829.franka@svpal.org> References: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1128588735.951.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200510151548.47829.franka@svpal.org> Message-ID: <435249E5.7090804@bmts.com> Frank Arnold wrote: > A friend of mine teaaches Linux to a company that is transitioning from > Windows. She uses a Book called "Point and Click Linux" which comes with > a copy of Mepis Linux, almost as good as Kubuntu, and a DVD of instructions. > It would be nice if someone would do the same for Kubuntu/Ubuntu. > Frank Arnold > I started using Linux in May, so I myself am still a Newbie. When I first started out, even before I installed my first distribution I went to www.Linux.org and read through their courses. They are really decent and tailored towards the newbie. They seem a little outdated (it speaks mostly of command line stuff, which is still good to know) and based mostly on Debian, but KUbuntu is based on Debian anyway. After that I found out list like this are filled with amazing people. Amazing both in their commitment to new users, their commitment to the open source community, and their commitment to helping others. You can ask any question and there is a good chance you will have your question answered. There are several list you can go to. At the moment I am a member of this list and the Canadian Ubuntu list. Lastly, the local Linux group was a great help to me. They also have their own forum, even one meant for questions, and monthly meetings. The people there talked me through what to do and one gentleman, who works for IBM, even spoke to me over IM for two hours making sure I knew everything about drive partitioning and proper installation of Linux. Even if there is not a Linux group directly in your community there should be one close by that will consider your area a part of their domain and you should still get help online through their list and forums. I hope this helps. Oh, one last thing. You will probably bounce around different distributions until you find the right one for you. I had three (Xandros, PCLinuxOS, Debian, in that order) before I found KUbuntu, which I love. www.distrowatch.org is a great place to find info on distributions. Ubuntu is #1 now (above Debian) and Kubuntu just shy of the top 10 :) -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From sclewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 16 12:41:33 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:41:33 -0400 Subject: Superkaramba In-Reply-To: <000801c5d1f2$502b4130$0401a8c0@k7> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com><200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> <1128587685.951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <000801c5d1f2$502b4130$0401a8c0@k7> Message-ID: <43524A7D.7060206@bmts.com> Xurxo Fernandez wrote: > Hi, > anyone knows of a repository with the latest version of superkaramba > (0.37) To find repositories, I find www.apt-get.org to be good. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Sun Oct 16 13:39:15 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:39:15 +0100 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <43524A7D.7060206@bmts.com> References: <20051004141116.27082.qmail@web34414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200510060832.17887.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> <1128587685.951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <000801c5d1f2$502b4130$0401a8c0@k7> <43524A7D.7060206@bmts.com> Message-ID: <1129469955.17514.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Thanks for all the sound advice given me and other new folk. I have joined a couple of user-lists but though the members seem very friendly it is almost impossible to understand what they are talking about. I'll just carry on until I too know what's going on. I have to say that I really love Linux and use both Ubuntu and Kubuntu depending on my mood and what works with my set-up. Best wishes, Derek From franka at svpal.org Sun Oct 16 18:18:11 2005 From: franka at svpal.org (Frank Arnold) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:18:11 -0700 Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <435249E5.7090804@bmts.com> References: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200510151548.47829.franka@svpal.org> <435249E5.7090804@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200510161118.13672.franka@svpal.org> Well said, Scott. Frank On Sunday 16 October 2005 05:39, Scott wrote: > Frank Arnold wrote: > > A friend of mine teaaches Linux to a company that is transitioning from > > Windows. She uses a Book called "Point and Click Linux" which comes with > > a copy of Mepis Linux, almost as good as Kubuntu, and a DVD of > > instructions. It would be nice if someone would do the same for > > Kubuntu/Ubuntu. Frank Arnold > > I started using Linux in May, so I myself am still a Newbie. When I > first started out, even before I installed my first distribution I went > to www.Linux.org and read through their courses. They are really decent > and tailored towards the newbie. They seem a little outdated (it speaks > mostly of command line stuff, which is still good to know) and based > mostly on Debian, but KUbuntu is based on Debian anyway. > > After that I found out list like this are filled with amazing > people. Amazing both in their commitment to new users, their commitment > to the open source community, and their commitment to helping others. > You can ask any question and there is a good chance you will have your > question answered. There are several list you can go to. At the moment > I am a member of this list and the Canadian Ubuntu list. > > Lastly, the local Linux group was a great help to me. They also > have their own forum, even one meant for questions, and monthly > meetings. The people there talked me through what to do and one > gentleman, who works for IBM, even spoke to me over IM for two hours > making sure I knew everything about drive partitioning and proper > installation of Linux. Even if there is not a Linux group directly in > your community there should be one close by that will consider your area > a part of their domain and you should still get help online through > their list and forums. > > I hope this helps. Oh, one last thing. You will probably bounce > around different distributions until you find the right one for you. I > had three (Xandros, PCLinuxOS, Debian, in that order) before I found > KUbuntu, which I love. www.distrowatch.org is a great place to find > info on distributions. Ubuntu is #1 now (above Debian) and Kubuntu just > shy of the top 10 :) > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin > > "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From sclewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 16 19:13:08 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:13:08 -0400 Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <200510161118.13672.franka@svpal.org> References: <20051006021641.91524.qmail@web30215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200510151548.47829.franka@svpal.org> <435249E5.7090804@bmts.com> <200510161118.13672.franka@svpal.org> Message-ID: <4352A644.2040301@bmts.com> Frank Arnold wrote: > Well said, Scott. > Thank you :) -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Sun Oct 16 19:13:37 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebe;) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:13:37 +1300 Subject: Screenlock --> Unable to unlock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200510170813.37413.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:42, Martin J Hooper wrote: > Dripple wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I upgraded my KUbuntu to Breezy today, and I'm not able to unlock the > > screen when screensaver is activated. Always tells me "Wrong password", > > while login or sudo is OK. > > Your not the only one.. Done that to me too. How do I disable the > screensaver?? Right click configure desktop, screensaver. One thing I always do with kde is go to the configure panel section, right click on a blank spot on the task bar and configure panel in the menu section add preferences. From lists at chasin-family.org Sun Oct 16 20:52:54 2005 From: lists at chasin-family.org (Mailing Lists - SBC) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:52:54 -0400 Subject: Darwin Streaming Server Message-ID: Has anyone out there experimented with Darwin Streaming Server (OSS version of QuickTime Streaming Server) and gotten it to compile correctly on either Kubuntu or Ubuntu? (I am currently using Kubuntu 5.10) While I know how to do the basics for compiling and installing, I can in no way be considered a programmer or expert. Thanks for any help someone might be able to provide Steve From delriojr at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 21:39:16 2005 From: delriojr at gmail.com (Jose Ramon del Rio) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:39:16 +0200 Subject: problem transcode Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Message-ID: Hi, I like create a dvd. I have a problem with transcode. I run this command transcode -i myfilm.avi -y ffmpeg --export_prof dvd-pal --export_asr 2 -o myfilmout -D0 -s2 -m myfilmout.ac3 -J modfps=clonetype=3 transcode v1.0.1 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO. [transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms [transcode] auto-probing source myfilm.avi (ok) [transcode] V: import format | DivX;-) RIFF data, AVI (V=ffmpeg|A=mp3) [transcode] V: import frame | 352x288 1.22:1 XXX: zoom=yes pre_clip=yes [transcode] V: pre clip frame | 352x270 (8,0,10,0) [transcode] V: zoom | 720x576 1.17:1 (Lanczos3) [transcode] V: bits/pixel | 0.174 [transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] V: Y'CbCr | YV12/I420 [transcode] A: import format | 0x55 MPEG layer-3 [48000,16,2] 224 kbps [transcode] A: export format | 0x55 MPEG layer-3 [48000,16,2] 128 kbps [transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 25.000,3 [transcode] A: bytes per frame | 7680 (7680.000000) [transcode] A: adjustment | 0 at 1000 [transcode] A: rescale stream | 2.000 [transcode] V: IA32/AMD64 accel | sse2 (sse2 sse mmxext mmx asm C) tc_memcpy: using sse for memcpy [transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x576 [transcode] warning : /usr/lib/transcode/import_ffmpeg.so: undefined symbol: dts_init Loading video import module failed Did you enable this module when you ran configure? [transcode] failed to init import modules [transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed I have installed some packages with synaptic. $ more /etc/apt/sources.list deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release Candidate i386 (20051006)]/ breezy main restricted deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe # # transcode # deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse # # w32codecs # deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. # deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted # deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe # Please help me. 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How do I disable the >>screensaver?? >> >> > > > Right click configure desktop, screensaver. > >One thing I always do with kde is go to the configure panel section, right >click on a blank spot on the task bar and configure panel in the menu section >add preferences. > > > I am in the same boat. Although I love Kubuntu, really love Kubuntu, this seems like a really basic problem. Let's put some heads together and get this one knocked out. I am willing to test any solutions. -- Jim McQuiston Registered Linux User #375957 "Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads?" -- Hunter S.Thompson From calcmandan at gmail.com Sun Oct 16 15:50:09 2005 From: calcmandan at gmail.com (Daniel L) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:50:09 +0000 Subject: Introduce myself Message-ID: <1129477809.5827.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello fellow Kubuntu users. Over the last week, I've been testing the Kubuntu distro. Well, I've been testing a few others to replace my Fedora Core main. Kubuntu has been the ultimate OS. I started with Hoary. Spent the day yesterday doing an update to Breezy and it was not only flawless but painless. So, I wanted to say hello to the community. Now, I just need to find out who to talk to for requests in the repos. Daniel dlausevic at http://www.justlinux.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From np5b at get2net.dk Mon Oct 17 06:41:36 2005 From: np5b at get2net.dk (Hans Christian Andersen) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:41:36 +0200 Subject: video card replaced Message-ID: <1129531297.7353.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Than you to all ubuntu volunteers for an extremely user friendly distro. Does anyone know of a log telling which video card (no documentation is at hand) is installed? I need to know some details in order to do a proper configuration of X. On some computers shortly after switching it on you get a brief message on the screen from the video card with its name before messages from the BIOS and the motherboard and ubuntu linux gets loaded. But sometimes you don't. In such cases I am not able to configure X, and a reinstall is necessary. This must be possible to do in a more elegant way! From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Mon Oct 17 08:05:14 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:05:14 -0700 Subject: Introduce myself In-Reply-To: <1129477809.5827.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1129477809.5827.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43535B3A.1010705@gmail.com> Daniel L wrote: >Hello fellow Kubuntu users. > >Over the last week, I've been testing the Kubuntu distro. Well, I've >been testing a few others to replace my Fedora Core main. Kubuntu has >been the ultimate OS. I started with Hoary. Spent the day yesterday >doing an update to Breezy and it was not only flawless but painless. > >So, I wanted to say hello to the community. Now, I just need to find >out who to talk to for requests in the repos. > > Welcome. I used to run Fedora myself. I actually liked it, but I like K/Ubuntu better. For one thing, I've found their repository has more packages (at least compared to what Fedora had a year ago). There is still the multimedia problem, but ya get what ya pay for, right? ;-) Anyway, as far as package requests check out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//UniverseCandidates From james at grayonline.id.au Sun Oct 16 21:38:06 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:38:06 +1000 Subject: Kernel Panic since USN-199-1 Message-ID: <200510170738.12315.james@grayonline.id.au> Hi All, Some may have seen my Breezy upgrade success story. The reality seems that the stability issue under Hoary that prompted the upgrade in the first place is still there. I've narrowed down the start of the problem to the kernel update made in response to USN-199-1 (Ubuntu Security Notice). I'm running an AMD64 3000+ on an Asus K8VSE Deluxe with 1GB of RAM with the latest 2.6.10-5.?-amd64-k8 kernel. I've reliably recreated the fault with the following: 1. Boot normally. 2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache + buffer is almost 1GB) with no swap in use. 3. Load something else large enough to prompt the kernel to try and free some buffer/cache or swap out to disk. 4. Kernel will throw a bunch of "Unable to handle paging request at 0x0?????" (the address varies but seems to always be in the range that is only buffer/cache) into /var/log/kern.log. The remaining details in the log refer to "{page_clear +7}" or other paging requests with all the usual register contents etc. 5. At this point, what ever I loaded in #3 will stop with a "Killed" message. 6. Either soon after 5, or immediately, the kernel will panic and it's "Goodnight Irene" for the system. I've upgraded from Hoary->Breezy thinking maybe Breezy's kernel wasn't affected, but it suffers the same problem on my hardware. I ran memtest86 all night (over 10 hours) and no errors were found. I'm running the latest BIOS for my board (1007.002 IIRC) and all memory timings are "default" - ie, no over-clocking. The system has been rock solid since I installed Hoary earlier this year. This problem only appeared after the kernel update in USN-199-1. My other machine (a Centrino laptop) running Hoary also installed the problematic kernel *version* but it is a 686 kernel not an amd64-k8. Maybe this is something screwy with the Athlon64 code? Anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Should I raise a bug?? Cheers, James -- There is a fly on your nose. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I use the command man -t | lpr to printed a formatted copy of the man page, and found a simple script that does it in multiple columns (let me know if you want it posted). And I would have given up learning Linux if not for the help of my local users group list. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 375 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Oct 17 13:05:29 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:05:29 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes In-Reply-To: <200510152319.36583.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510150040.33793.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510152319.36583.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <4353A199.20604@verizon.net> Merv Curley wrote: >On Saturday 15 October 2005 15:53, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > >>>It is more convenient if all your files are standard format and >>>when Koffice can write Open Document like OpenOffice2, all will >>>be dandy. >>> >>> >>It won't be dandy until MS decides to support Open Document. >>-- >> >> > >Only if you have to pass data to Windows users, a situation I am not >in. > > The dirty little secret that most everyday ms office users seem to miss is that, due to printer and font differences and the selections made in the ms office Tools>Options>Compatibility dialog, ms documents are not that compatible from machine to machine running the same version of the ms program. One thing that ms does better than OO (though OO has improved) is the rationality of the Document Object Model. Unintended formatting changes resulting from deleting things tend to be more consistent, predictable and rational in the ms suite, because the widely known DOM defines what is stored in paragraph markers, where styles are stored, etc. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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Gnome was always a compromise that filled no needs. It didn't do much more than Fluxbox, while devouring far greater resources. It was slower than Fluxbox and weaker than KDE. When I switched to Ubuntu, I figured I'd stick with gnome for speed. This was a faster machine and Fluxbox wasn't necessary. But then I tried KDE and found that the speed difference of Gnome vs. KDE wasn't significant, and KDE met far more of my needs. This all seems to prove that Linux environments improve efficiency as well as features over time as contrasted with windows which seems to improve features at the expense of efficiency (just throw more hardware at it). But as for stability, I never noticed much of a difference between KDE vs. Gnome. Beyond the features an individual might need that one environment does better, it is just a matter of vanilla vs. chocolate. If you want to see a big difference in terms of non windows interface and speed, drop Gnome and KDE and try Fluxbox. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 375 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(was: Re: Forums (was Re: Scary upgrade thing)) In-Reply-To: <43539A9B.30909@verizon.net> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> <6B48E762-7FAD-43A0-9441-43A3F5CAFE2E@iki.fi> <43539A9B.30909@verizon.net> Message-ID: <7C7110DF-4653-4057-AB48-5010C6300F07@iki.fi> On Oct 17, 2005, at 15:35, Art Alexion wrote: > Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > > >> >> Anyways, due to the richer feature set and flexibility KDE might just >> be the winner... even though it could lend some of the smoothness >> from >> Gnome. >> > > Things change with time. I always preferred kde to gnome, but > found KDE > to be more resource hungry. In the past (on Red Hat), I used KDE > when I > needed it, and Fluxbox when I didn't. Gnome was always a compromise > that filled no needs. It didn't do much more than Fluxbox, while > devouring far greater resources. It was slower than Fluxbox and > weaker > than KDE. When I switched to Ubuntu, I figured I'd stick with > gnome for > speed. This was a faster machine and Fluxbox wasn't necessary. But > then I tried KDE and found that the speed difference of Gnome vs. KDE > wasn't significant, and KDE met far more of my needs. This all > seems to > prove that Linux environments improve efficiency as well as features > over time as contrasted with windows which seems to improve > features at > the expense of efficiency (just throw more hardware at it). I kind of figured that when using Gnome and having KDE-stuff installed one can anyways get the most out of KDE, because very little of the KDE features are outside actual applications such as Konqueror. My proposal for the ultimate Linux desktop would actually be Gnome with good KDE integration. This is because the Gnome interface is much userfrendlier and IMHO. a bit smoother than KDE. While Gnome can sometimes be a bit short on functionality, we can trust those looking for that functionality to be able to find them through the KDE applications. As it is today Ubuntu with KDE installed does a very good job at this, and even futher intentional integration would make it even cooler. (BTW. If you haven't checked out Gnome in Breezy, you definitely should... it's fixed the most disturbing shortcomings in Hoary.) > But as for stability, I never noticed much of a difference between KDE > vs. Gnome. Beyond the features an individual might need that one > environment does better, it is just a matter of vanilla vs. chocolate. > If you want to see a big difference in terms of non windows interface > and speed, drop Gnome and KDE and try Fluxbox. I've found KDE giving me 'bombmessges' quite often. Especially now since the upgrade to Breezy it's been unacceptably unstable and sometimes behaved really wierdly. (Such as opened CD:s more than once after inserting them. Even when I tried the Kubuntu Live DVD on my PowerBook the sound didn't work and I didn't get the network working either. The Window menu in Konqueror also seems to be missing, so consider this a bugreport. :-) I also had to swich back to GDM since KDM started messing up Gnome, starting some kdeinit processes and such. However, this may of course well be instability in Kubuntu and not KDE in general. But at least for now this means that I'll be running Ubuntu (Gnome) yet enjoying a bunch of KDE applications in a stable and smooth manner. :-) cheers, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Oct 17 13:14:21 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:14:21 -0400 Subject: klik & apt Message-ID: <4353A3AD.3000806@verizon.net> I installed ksudoku 0.2 using klik. The deb for the current 0.4 version had unmet dependencies. Runs fine, though I have no idea how klik does its magic. This morning I ran apt-get update/upgrade and got the following message: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: ksudoku: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.1-1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.4 is installed Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is installed Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is installed Depends: libidn11 (>= 0.5.13) but 0.5.2-3 is installed Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. Do I really want to use the -f (force) option, or does this have the potential to break something else? Will -f force the installation of the newer libraries or just get apt-get upgrade to stop complaining? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From cletourneau at oerlikon.ca Mon Oct 17 13:15:05 2005 From: cletourneau at oerlikon.ca (Carl =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=E9tourneau?=) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:15:05 -0400 Subject: Hoary->Breezy source.list upgrade problem Message-ID: <1129554905.8377.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I have been trying to follow "how-to"s to upgrade my Hoary to Breezy. My Hoary is originally a Ubuntu upgraded to Kubuntu (always worked well). I edited my source.list and changed all "hoary" to "breezy", but I didn't find the right replacement for this repository : ##Kubuntu deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main deb-src http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main Could anyone send me a Kubuntu Breezy source.list? Thanks. From simon at iki.fi Mon Oct 17 13:19:46 2005 From: simon at iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Simon_R=F6nnqvist?=) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:19:46 +0300 Subject: The Ultimate Linux desktop: (Ubuntu) Gnome with KDE-software installed? (was: Re: Forums (was Re: Scary upgrade thing)) In-Reply-To: <7a59f33a0510170613i63146f8cv810a2cb67ab1431d@mail.gmail.com> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> <6B48E762-7FAD-43A0-9441-43A3F5CAFE2E@iki.fi> <43539A9B.30909@verizon.net> <7C7110DF-4653-4057-AB48-5010C6300F07@iki.fi> <7a59f33a0510170613i63146f8cv810a2cb67ab1431d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5626B755-C99E-4AFE-94B0-7BAA131B93D2@iki.fi> Hi! Why is that? cheers, Simon On Oct 17, 2005, at 16:13, Derek Slovin wrote: > KDE and gtk+ applications is a much better solution than Gnome+kde > applications > > On 10/17/05, Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > >> >> On Oct 17, 2005, at 15:35, Art Alexion wrote: >> >> Simon Rönnqvist wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Anyways, due to the richer feature set and flexibility KDE might just >> be the winner... even though it could lend some of the smoothness >> from >> Gnome. >> >> Things change with time. I always preferred kde to gnome, but >> found KDE >> to be more resource hungry. In the past (on Red Hat), I used KDE >> when I >> needed it, and Fluxbox when I didn't. Gnome was always a compromise >> that filled no needs. It didn't do much more than Fluxbox, while >> devouring far greater resources. It was slower than Fluxbox and >> weaker >> than KDE. When I switched to Ubuntu, I figured I'd stick with >> gnome for >> speed. This was a faster machine and Fluxbox wasn't necessary. But >> then I tried KDE and found that the speed difference of Gnome vs. KDE >> wasn't significant, and KDE met far more of my needs. This all >> seems to >> prove that Linux environments improve efficiency as well as features >> over time as contrasted with windows which seems to improve >> features at >> the expense of efficiency (just throw more hardware at it). >> >> I kind of figured that when using Gnome and having KDE-stuff >> installed one >> can anyways get the most out of KDE, because very little of the >> KDE features >> are outside actual applications such as Konqueror. My proposal for >> the >> ultimate Linux desktop would actually be Gnome with good KDE >> integration. >> This is because the Gnome interface is much userfrendlier and >> IMHO. a bit >> smoother than KDE. While Gnome can sometimes be a bit short on >> functionality, we can trust those looking for that functionality >> to be able >> to find them through the KDE applications. As it is today Ubuntu >> with KDE >> installed does a very good job at this, and even futher intentional >> integration would make it even cooler. (BTW. If you haven't >> checked out >> Gnome in Breezy, you definitely should... it's fixed the most >> disturbing >> shortcomings in Hoary.) >> >> But as for stability, I never noticed much of a difference between >> KDE >> vs. Gnome. Beyond the features an individual might need that one >> environment does better, it is just a matter of vanilla vs. >> chocolate. >> If you want to see a big difference in terms of non windows interface >> and speed, drop Gnome and KDE and try Fluxbox. >> >> I've found KDE giving me 'bombmessges' quite often. Especially >> now since >> the upgrade to Breezy it's been unacceptably unstable and >> sometimes behaved >> really wierdly. (Such as opened CD:s more than once after >> inserting them. >> Even when I tried the Kubuntu Live DVD on my PowerBook the sound >> didn't work >> and I didn't get the network working either. The Window menu in >> Konqueror >> also seems to be missing, so consider this a bugreport. :-) I also >> had to >> swich back to GDM since KDM started messing up Gnome, starting >> some kdeinit >> processes and such. >> >> However, this may of course well be instability in Kubuntu and not >> KDE in >> general. But at least for now this means that I'll be running >> Ubuntu (Gnome) >> yet enjoying a bunch of KDE applications in a stable and smooth >> manner. :-) >> >> cheers, Simon >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> > From dgvirtual at akl.lt Mon Oct 17 13:24:53 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:24:53 +0300 Subject: Hoary->Breezy source.list upgrade problem In-Reply-To: <1129554905.8377.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1129554905.8377.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4353A625.5010106@akl.lt> Carl Létourneau rašė: > Hi, > > I have been trying to follow "how-to"s to upgrade my Hoary to Breezy. My > Hoary is originally a Ubuntu upgraded to Kubuntu (always worked well). I > edited my source.list and changed all "hoary" to "breezy", but I didn't > find the right replacement for this repository : > > ##Kubuntu > deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main > deb-src http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main > > Could anyone send me a Kubuntu Breezy source.list? > > Thanks. > No need for that repository, since a newever version of KDE, 3.4.3 is now in the main ubuntu repositories. Just delete it. Donatas From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Oct 17 13:43:24 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:43:24 -0400 Subject: The Ultimate Linux desktop: (Ubuntu) Gnome with KDE-software installed? In-Reply-To: <7C7110DF-4653-4057-AB48-5010C6300F07@iki.fi> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> <6B48E762-7FAD-43A0-9441-43A3F5CAFE2E@iki.fi> <43539A9B.30909@verizon.net> <7C7110DF-4653-4057-AB48-5010C6300F07@iki.fi> Message-ID: <4353AA7C.6040008@verizon.net> Simon Rönnqvist wrote: > > I kind of figured that when using Gnome and having KDE-stuff > installed one can anyways get the most out of KDE, because very little > of the KDE features are outside actual applications such as Konqueror. > My proposal for the ultimate Linux desktop would actually be Gnome > with good KDE integration. The problem with this is the unnecessary overhead. When in gnome, you have to load the gtk libraries just for the interface, and when you launch a KDE app, you load the qt libraries. Sometimes you end up launching much more, like DCOP and other parts of KDE *on top of gnome and gtk*. It works the same way in reverse, i.e. running gnome apps under KDE. Some gtk apps are not full gnome, though, like easyTAG and jpilot. > This is because the Gnome interface is much userfrendlier and IMHO. a > bit smoother than KDE. That is a matter of personal taste and preference. > >> But as for stability, I never noticed much of a difference between KDE >> vs. Gnome. Beyond the features an individual might need that one >> environment does better, it is just a matter of vanilla vs. chocolate. >> If you want to see a big difference in terms of non windows interface >> and speed, drop Gnome and KDE and try Fluxbox. > > > I've found KDE giving me 'bombmessges' quite often. Especially now > since the upgrade to Breezy it's been unacceptably unstable and > sometimes behaved really wierdly. ... > However, this may of course well be instability in Kubuntu and not KDE > in general. But at least for now this means that I'll be running > Ubuntu (Gnome) yet enjoying a bunch of KDE applications in a stable > and smooth manner. :-) > > Maybe its a breezy thing. I don't see much stability difference in hoary, (or for that matter in Red Hat). As with hoary, I am waiting a couple of months for the big bugs to get ironed out before switching to breezy. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From claudia_ringwald at web.de Mon Oct 17 13:51:16 2005 From: claudia_ringwald at web.de (Claudia Ringwald) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 15:51:16 +0200 Subject: Hoary->Breezy source.list upgrade problem In-Reply-To: <1129554905.8377.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1129554905.8377.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200510171551.16824.claudia_ringwald@web.de> Hi Carl, Am Montag, 17. Oktober 2005 15:15 schrieb Carl Létourneau: > Hi, > > I have been trying to follow "how-to"s to upgrade my Hoary to Breezy. My > Hoary is originally a Ubuntu upgraded to Kubuntu (always worked well). I > edited my source.list and changed all "hoary" to "breezy", but I didn't > find the right replacement for this repository : > > ##Kubuntu > deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main > deb-src http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main You don't need a replacement for this. KDE 3.4.3 is in the main repositories of (k)ubuntu breezy. This extra repository was only needed to make an upgrade of the original hoary (which was shipped with an earlier KDE). So if you don't want to play around with KDE 3.5 beta you need an extra repository for KDE. Just delete this lines. Best regards, Claudia From sclewin at bmts.com Mon Oct 17 13:58:12 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:58:12 -0400 Subject: The Ultimate Linux desktop: (Ubuntu) Gnome with KDE-software installed? In-Reply-To: <4353AA7C.6040008@verizon.net> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <200510141400.36122.viru@bzimage.us> <02D7B1AD-6096-4FCF-8CDD-62CC7B4A3867@iki.fi> <36CE95B5-B984-4D59-A4FE-1DBA347CA779@iki.fi> <6B48E762-7FAD-43A0-9441-43A3F5CAFE2E@iki.fi> <43539A9B.30909@verizon.net> <7C7110DF-4653-4057-AB48-5010C6300F07@iki.fi> <4353AA7C.6040008@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4353ADF4.2040701@bmts.com> Hi, I have had a difficult time trying to find much differences between Gnome and KDE. I am still a new Good guy :) (Linux) user and may have not had enough time to notice the subtle differences of the two desktops; or should I say religions :). I simply use KDE because I like the look of it more than Gnome. I find myself using programs from both worlds (I love Konqueror and the Gimp). I do have a question for the people in this debate though. Originally when I started using KUbuntu I had both Ubuntu and KUbuntu installed and just used the KUbuntu (or KDE) as my default. I did a clean install with the 5.10 and now only did Kubuntu this time. The question is should I also install the Ubuntu desktop, other than the option of using Gnome is there any benefit? -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 17 14:18:28 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:18:28 -0300 Subject: klik & apt References: <4353A3AD.3000806@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > I installed ksudoku 0.2 using klik. The deb for the current 0.4 version > had unmet dependencies. Runs fine, though I have no idea how klik does > its magic. This morning I ran apt-get update/upgrade and got the > following message: > > You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > ksudoku: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.1-1) but 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3.4 > is installed > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 > is installed > Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is > installed > Depends: libidn11 (>= 0.5.13) but 0.5.2-3 is installed > Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 > is installed > E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. > > Do I really want to use the -f (force) option, or does this have the > potential to break something else? Will -f force the installation of > the newer libraries or just get apt-get upgrade to stop complaining? > -f isn't "force", it's "fix" - and I suspect that it's going to tell you exactly the same thing as your update. Those dependencies are still going to be unmet. It would probably have been a very good idea to figure out how klik does it's magic. Since it's not in Breezy, I rather suspect it's pulling from Debian unstable or even private repositories, and the only way you're going to be able to do upgrades now is to remove ksudoku. The simple way to see what apt is going to do is "apt-get -s -f install". I think it'll probably tell you it wants to remove ksudoku. -- derek From jr at jriddell.org Mon Oct 17 15:56:16 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:56:16 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] NetworkManager In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051017155616.GG11663@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 02:28:20PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > The NetworkManager home page at > http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/ says it's distribution an UI > agnostic, but clearly the version shipping with Ubuntu is heavily tied to > Gnome. > > Is there a plan to produce a KDE-based version? That could well happen for KDE 4. Making it a guidance module is another possibility but no real work has happened to date. Jonathan From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 17 15:36:37 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:36:37 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes References: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510150040.33793.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510152319.36583.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <61tc23-iu8.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Merv Curley wrote: > On Saturday 15 October 2005 15:53, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> > It is more convenient if all your files are standard format and >> > when Koffice can write Open Document like OpenOffice2, all will >> > be dandy. >> >> It won't be dandy until MS decides to support Open Document. > > Only if you have to pass data to Windows users, a situation I am not > in. Never? That's a little hard to believe. Most of us _must_ deal with Windows occasionally, and that means we don't have a useful open document format until MS supports Open Document. > However Microsoft are going to allow Office users to save files > in pdf format so Step 1 has been reached. No, because pdf is a lousy format for data interchange. It's fine for final printing, but it's a real pain (_especially_ for Windows users) to edit and amend the pdf. > > If more States act like Mass. then the process will happen quicker of > course. > Yes. -- derek From mcurley at eol.ca Mon Oct 17 16:29:14 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:29:14 -0400 Subject: The Ultimate Linux desktop: (Ubuntu) Gnome with KDE-software installed? In-Reply-To: <4353ADF4.2040701@bmts.com> References: <0F93CB57-7416-4CBA-98A2-21666C42E37F@iki.fi> <4353AA7C.6040008@verizon.net> <4353ADF4.2040701@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200510171229.14538.mcurley@eol.ca> On Monday 17 October 2005 09:58, Scott wrote: > Hi, > > I do have a question for the people in this debate though. > Originally when I started using KUbuntu I had both Ubuntu and > KUbuntu installed and just used the KUbuntu (or KDE) as my default. > I did a clean install with the 5.10 and now only did Kubuntu this > time. The question is should I also install the Ubuntu desktop, > other than the option of using Gnome is there any benefit? > > -- I would say no. Basically you need GTK to run most Gnome apps plus a few other libraries depending on the app. The package manager 'should' only add necessary programs but that isn't always the case in the Debian world. Just install and use whatever apps you prefer. Since there doesn't seem to be a suitable genealogy program in the KDE stable, I use Gramps but I think it is the only gtk app I have. The Gimp is overkill for me but it is another one that many people have. The KDE Window manager will handle most anything. I have more tck/tcl programs than gtk, of course perl and python stuff is in there also. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Oct 17 16:52:55 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:52:55 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes In-Reply-To: <61tc23-iu8.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> References: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510150040.33793.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510152319.36583.mcurley@eol.ca> <61tc23-iu8.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > Never? That's a little hard to believe. Most of us _must_ deal with > Windows occasionally, and that means we don't have a useful open document > format until MS supports Open Document. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051016105739574 Maybe sometime in the dim and distant future this will be the case... From domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it Mon Oct 17 17:55:22 2005 From: domi_mailing-list at yahoo.it (Domingo Scisci) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:55:22 +0200 Subject: breezy: kaffeine problem [amd64] Message-ID: <200510171955.22604.domi_mailing-list@yahoo.it> Hi everyone, I've just finished to configure my new breezy installation. I found a lot of problems with kaffeine player. With hoary I was able to watch dvd, divx and xvid video, without using chroot. Now I can listen the music (for DVD and divx video), but screen is blank. What's strange is I can watch videos with xine-ui, so It's just a kaffeine problem. I tried with kaffeine-streamer too, but nothing changes: I always got (device or resource busy) and kaffeine freezes. Last, each time I close kaffeine, it crashes. I'm afraid that kaffeine for amd64 is very buggy. Bye Scido From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 17 17:34:16 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:34:16 -0300 Subject: OpenOffice Substitutes References: <200510111247.20481.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510150040.33793.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510152319.36583.mcurley@eol.ca> <61tc23-iu8.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: Martin J Hooper wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Never? That's a little hard to believe. Most of us _must_ deal with >> Windows occasionally, and that means we don't have a useful open document >> format until MS supports Open Document. > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051016105739574 > > Maybe sometime in the dim and distant future this will be the case... LOL. That's exactly what they said about tabbed browsing in IE: "We'll add it when our customers request it, but they haven't asked for it". I promptly went looking for a place that I _could_ request it (not that I really care what they do with IE, but I figured I'd help them along!). I could not find a place where I could make any sort of feature request -- derek From chris at deadhand.com Mon Oct 17 19:27:24 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:27:24 +0200 Subject: Breezy final: Smooth upgrade Message-ID: <200510172127.24305.chris@deadhand.com> Hello, just wanted to tell you that the upgrade from hoary to breezy went absolutely smooth for me. This is really great. I downloaded all the packages first (dist-upgrade -d and install kubuntu-desktop -d) so the actual upgrading process took less than half an hour - haven't had such a good experience before. Debian Sid comes to mind though since basically every dist-upgrade there get's you a new distribution in a way. All in all I can really recommend the upgrade when you look at the way it works. Ifthe actual packages and changes are worth the upgrade everyone has to decide for themself though I guess. Some settings still seem illogical to me, but i explained that in more than enough dept in my annoying RC feedback mails (like window borders on maximized windows...) What really should be fixed is having the "Google Search Bar" on every (File-managing) Konqueror - this is rather silly ;) I'm off fixing these for me personally for now. Cheers, Christoph Wiesen From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 18 00:08:39 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:08:39 -0400 Subject: klik & apt In-Reply-To: References: <4353A3AD.3000806@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43543D07.7080306@verizon.net> Derek Broughton wrote: >Art Alexion wrote: > > > >The simple way to see what apt is going to do is "apt-get -s -f install". I >think it'll probably tell you it wants to remove ksudoku. > > Right you are... ...but the app works. I don't want to remove it. Isn't there a way to get the apt database to either ignore the dependencies or to believe that they are met? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 18 01:58:00 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:58:00 -0300 Subject: klik & apt References: <4353A3AD.3000806@verizon.net> <43543D07.7080306@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>Art Alexion wrote: >> >>The simple way to see what apt is going to do is "apt-get -s -f install". >>I think it'll probably tell you it wants to remove ksudoku. >> > Right you are... > > ...but the app works. I don't want to remove it. Isn't there a way to > get the apt database to either ignore the dependencies or to believe > that they are met? There's all sorts of ways, but right now you've got something installed that is non-Ubuntu, and requiring a c102 library - that means it's using a whole different libc6 version than breezy. You can make it work - after all, that's why libraries have odd suffixes like c102, so that they don't actively conflict with newer or older versions. However, I shouldn't think you can get a newer version of libqt3c102-mt from any ubuntu repository - hoary's would have lower version numbers and breezy will be fixed at the version you have or lower (if it came from some other repo). Once you got that from some other repo, then you'd need to find a way around the libc6 library itself. You'd be much better off building from source. klik promises much, but I think it's too early to be expecting it to work with Ubuntu. -- derek From jjesse at iserv.net Tue Oct 18 03:04:40 2005 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:04:40 -0400 Subject: Call for help -- Kubuntu Documentation Message-ID: As we are quickly approaching Breezy and getting ready for Dapper, I would like to issue a call for those would be interested in joining the DocTeam and help working on Kubuntu docs. As Dapper will be supported for a longer time, we at the DocTeam would like to have as much done in our documentation project list as possible. Now that we are moving ever closer to a release we are starting to focus on the projects for Dapper Drake. The main docuements for Dapper Drake will be the Kubuntu User Guide and also the Kubuntu Admin Guide. If you would like to join the DocTeam, a great place to get started will be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam and for the current projects and status https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects. Feel free to send me an email or find me on #kubuntu or #ubuntu-docs as jjesse Thanks, Jonathan From dgvirtual at akl.lt Tue Oct 18 07:57:32 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:57:32 +0300 Subject: dist-upgrade to breezy and the kernel with inotify Message-ID: <4354AAEC.5090804@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just did a dist-upgrade to breezy; I guess it left my old kernel 2.6.10 in place. But I need to run Kat, which needs "inotify" in the kernel. Does any of the custom Ubuntu Kernels include inotify? If not, how do I upgrade the kernel so it does run inotify? Donatas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQ1Sq7PDtAb8AVdgrAQLrQAP/cNCs7T1TvWfZBsCN0tfoWNDaJ+5rFFua eOP+sNrqZbOXVMColZ318lYOr6uef7U/Hhr7tDwrKrUm+PXTF9zSQzel91duz+Gq wo2RhTPjryaTidIKGbFeLfGXXwIjKwkbkg20WTwj0yFRZtYbe9fHNRYg8QfPkgDM FFQDj/IfKSE= =KKA2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tim at penhey.net Tue Oct 18 13:38:06 2005 From: tim at penhey.net (Tim Penhey) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:38:06 +0100 Subject: Anyone using Zope3 on Breezy? Message-ID: <200510181438.06624.tim@penhey.net> Using zope 3 from the breezy repository, I can't seem to get it working. Any one successful with it? Tim From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 18 13:43:19 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:43:19 -0400 Subject: klik & apt In-Reply-To: References: <4353A3AD.3000806@verizon.net> <43543D07.7080306@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4354FBF7.8000008@verizon.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > >klik promises much, but I think it's too early to be expecting it to work >with Ubuntu. > > OK, there were two things going on and klik was not at fault. Prior to posting this thread, I had first tried to install ksudoku by downloading the .deb and then. using dpkg -i. While dpkg complained of unmet dependencies, it installed the program nonetheless and the program worked. This created a KDE menu entry and caused the apt-get upgrade complaints. I did not know this at the time as I trusted that the complaints by dpkg when attempting to install prevented that installation. Then I installed via klik. Klik apparently does not create a menu entry. clicking the .cmg file installs the program on the fly in the /tmp branch and runs it. You have to keep the .cmg to run the program. Deleting the .cmg removes the program. Before I found this out, I deleted the .cmg after the program started. What I was running was the aborted -- but working -- dpkg installation. (Looks like the library dependencies are needed only for configuration.) I fixed the problem with apt-get -f install removing the installation done by dpkg and then put the .cmg back on the KDE desktop. Clicking the .cmg runs the program from /tmp/apps without installing it or its dependencies elsewhere. The .cmg is 88k. BTW, the game is addicting... -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. 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Is there someone who can help me to improve my ugly fonts to an acceptable form. Also there is a ugly gray screen when starting before the Kubutu blue appears. Other distro's do not have this gray screen. I do like the boot screen, but not when I stop. Can we get the same screen when stopping? well stupid questions, but if there is anyone out there whop can help me then please..... Once more I do like Kubuntu and when I CAN SOLVE MY MINOR POINTS I will keep using it! Software request: KAT for searching documents, an automatic update possibility, a notifier for updates, patches etc. (E-mail is perfect) Regards, PCLos - Linux user From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 18 14:12:47 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:12:47 -0400 Subject: Some remarks about Kubuntu 5.10 In-Reply-To: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <435502DF.7070608@verizon.net> R.P.M.Koendering wrote: > >I personally do not like the new package/update system and I use Synaptic. > > I am still using hoary and prefer synaptic for finding packages (apt-get is much faster and more efficient for update/upgrades and installing and removing packages whose names I know. On hoary, its synaptic over kynaptic, but I understand that breezy includes a new KDE package manager. > >Also there is a ugly gray screen when starting before the Kubutu blue appears. >Other distro's do not have this gray screen. > > The gray screen is X, prior to loading the window manager. I have seen it on most distros. Somehow gdm (as opposed to kdm) masks it with brown. It only lasts a few seconds on my not-so-fast system. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From sclewin at bmts.com Tue Oct 18 14:29:19 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:29:19 -0400 Subject: Some remarks about Kubuntu 5.10 In-Reply-To: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <435506BF.9040409@bmts.com> > I finally solved my internet connection trying installation 5 times. > I still have my extremely annoying connection issue with 5.10. I need to run PPPoeConf every time to connect. > I personally do not like the new package/update system and I use Synaptic. > Same here, but I will use adept when they add in filters for new, obsolete, and local packages. I consider this a major flaw, but when I reported it, it was downgraded to a wish list item. > Also there is a ugly gray screen when starting before the Kubutu blue appears. > Other distro's do not have this gray screen. > On my computer it last only for three seconds and I don't really notice it that much. > I do like the boot screen, but not when I stop. Can we get the same screen > when stopping? > Yea, me too, but the boot screen only pops up then I see the usual list of text saying [ok], is the boot screen suppose to only last a couple seconds or is there something wrong with my computer? -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From sebas at kde.nl Tue Oct 18 14:35:52 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:35:52 +0200 Subject: Some remarks about Kubuntu 5.10 In-Reply-To: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <200510181635.52035.sebas@kde.nl> Hi, On Tuesday 18 October 2005 15:54, R.P.M.Koendering wrote: > Also I do not like the Kubuntu Settings method. Is there a way to install > the standard solution?? [alt]+F2 "kcontrol" > Once more, like i asked for the previous version, the fonts are ugly. I do > have anti-aliasing for fonts on medium hinting style. > > I.e. the fonts should look smooth like other distributions (Mandriuva, > SuSe, Fedora, PCLinuxOS). > > Is there someone who can help me to improve my ugly fonts to an acceptable > form. "Ugly" means something different for every person on our small planet. How about supplying a screenshot, and explaining what exactly do you mean? (I might agree, if only I knew ...) > Also there is a ugly gray screen when starting before the Kubutu blue > appears. Other distro's do not have this gray screen. Isn't that Xorg's standard moire screen? > I do like the boot screen, but not when I stop. Can we get the same screen > when stopping? I think that's planned for Dapper Drake, but might be wrong. > Once more I do like Kubuntu and when I CAN SOLVE MY MINOR POINTS I will > keep using it! NO NEED TO SHOUT!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111oneoneelevenbbq ;-) > Software request: KAT for searching documents, [...] sudo apt-get install kat ? Best regards, -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, but when you have nothing left to take away. - Antoine de Saint-Exupery From chris at deadhand.com Tue Oct 18 15:32:38 2005 From: chris at deadhand.com (Christoph Wiesen) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:32:38 +0200 Subject: Breezy final: Smooth upgrade In-Reply-To: <200510172127.24305.chris@deadhand.com> References: <200510172127.24305.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <200510181732.38204.chris@deadhand.com> Am Montag 17 Oktober 2005 21:27 schrieb Christoph Wiesen: > Hello, > > just wanted to tell you that the upgrade from hoary to breezy went > absolutely smooth for me. This is really great. I downloaded all the > packages first (dist-upgrade -d and install kubuntu-desktop -d) so the > actual upgrading process took less than half an hour - haven't had such a > good experience before. Debian Sid comes to mind though since basically > every dist-upgrade there get's you a new distribution in a way. > > All in all I can really recommend the upgrade when you look at the way it > works. Ifthe actual packages and changes are worth the upgrade everyone has > to decide for themself though I guess. > > Some settings still seem illogical to me, but i explained that in more than > enough dept in my annoying RC feedback mails (like window borders on > maximized windows...) > > What really should be fixed is having the "Google Search Bar" on every > (File-managing) Konqueror - this is rather silly ;) > > I'm off fixing these for me personally for now. > > Cheers, > > Christoph Wiesen Ok, this is not nice, but I really have to add this to my comment; Now that I actually use the simplified Konqueror profile for real work I have to say it really isn't the good ol' Konqueror I loved anymore. I'm doing simple stuff with some php files over ftp and partly locally, but i could neither have the local and the remote view in one konqueror window side-by-side, nor could I search for files (or their content) inside the current directory, like a non-crippled Konqueror can from the tools menu (and this is the reason I HAVE to write this to the list...). Maybe there are some keyboard shortcuts for these - I will ahve to look them up - not the achievement I'd hoped for from an 'easy to use' distribution. Regards, From brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com Tue Oct 18 16:16:38 2005 From: brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com (Brant Fitzsimmons) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:16:38 -0400 Subject: Breezy final: Smooth upgrade In-Reply-To: <200510181732.38204.chris@deadhand.com> References: <200510172127.24305.chris@deadhand.com> <200510181732.38204.chris@deadhand.com> Message-ID: <200510181216.44377.brant@bfcomputerconsulting.com> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 11:32 am, Christoph Wiesen wrote: > Am Montag 17 Oktober 2005 21:27 schrieb Christoph Wiesen: > > Hello, > > > > just wanted to tell you that the upgrade from hoary to breezy went > > absolutely smooth for me. This is really great. I downloaded all the > > packages first (dist-upgrade -d and install kubuntu-desktop -d) so the > > actual upgrading process took less than half an hour - haven't had such a > > good experience before. Debian Sid comes to mind though since basically > > every dist-upgrade there get's you a new distribution in a way. > > > > All in all I can really recommend the upgrade when you look at the way it > > works. Ifthe actual packages and changes are worth the upgrade everyone > > has to decide for themself though I guess. > > > > Some settings still seem illogical to me, but i explained that in more > > than enough dept in my annoying RC feedback mails (like window borders on > > maximized windows...) > > > > What really should be fixed is having the "Google Search Bar" on every > > (File-managing) Konqueror - this is rather silly ;) > > > > I'm off fixing these for me personally for now. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Christoph Wiesen > > Ok, this is not nice, but I really have to add this to my comment; > > Now that I actually use the simplified Konqueror profile for real work I > have to say it really isn't the good ol' Konqueror I loved anymore. > I'm doing simple stuff with some php files over ftp and partly locally, but > i could neither have the local and the remote view in one konqueror window > side-by-side, nor could I search for files (or their content) inside the > current directory, like a non-crippled Konqueror can from the tools menu > (and this is the reason I HAVE to write this to the list...). > > Maybe there are some keyboard shortcuts for these - I will ahve to look > them up - not the achievement I'd hoped for from an 'easy to use' > distribution. > > Regards, You can Configure the toolbars to get those buttons back. I was really missing those options as well. Just added them back and all is well. I'm not sure why they were removed. They are one of the things that really sets Konqueror apart from any other major file manager. It's very nice being able to split the window in 10 different ways if you want. -- Brant Fitzsimmons brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Strange times are these in which we live when the old and the young are taught falsehoods in the schools of learning. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool." -Plato -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did not know this at the time as I trusted that the > complaints by dpkg when attempting to install prevented that installation. > > Then I installed via klik. Klik apparently does not create a menu entry. Ah-hah! I'm sorry I blamed klik. -- derek From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Tue Oct 18 19:29:33 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.P.M.Koendering) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:29:33 +0200 Subject: How to add programs to the kde menu Message-ID: <200510182129.33713.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> What program do I need to start for adding software to the kde menu PCLos From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Tue Oct 18 20:01:10 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:01:10 +1300 Subject: How to add programs to the kde menu In-Reply-To: <200510182129.33713.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200510182129.33713.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <200510190901.11003.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:29, R.P.M.Koendering wrote: > What program do I need to start for adding software to the kde menu > > PCLos None, right click in the area you want to add it to select edit menu and add the software you want to. -- *~~~~~~DakaR http://linux.kwister.com Registered Linux #215413 From devriesbj at gmail.com Tue Oct 18 21:46:05 2005 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:46:05 -0400 Subject: Konqueror failing to load webpages Message-ID: Hey all, I recently upgraded to 5.10 and I'm getting an error on every web page that I try when I use Konqueror. Everything works fine with Firefox but Konqueror gives: -------- An error occurred while loading http://www.kde.org: Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org. -------- I get this same error for every http request but every ftp, file, remote, etc. request works perfectly. Any thoughts? I couldn't tell you if it work in 5.04 because I always use Firefox but it would be nice it I had the choice. Any help would be appreciated. Brad. From sebas at kde.nl Tue Oct 18 22:06:19 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:06:19 +0200 Subject: Konqueror failing to load webpages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200510190006.19868.sebas@kde.nl> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 23:46, Brad De Vries wrote: > Hey all, I recently upgraded to 5.10 and I'm getting an error on every > web page that I try when I use Konqueror. Everything works fine with > Firefox but Konqueror gives: > -------- > An error occurred while loading http://www.kde.org: > Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org. > -------- > I get this same error for every http request but every ftp, file, > remote, etc. request works perfectly. > > Any thoughts? > > I couldn't tell you if it work in 5.04 because I always use Firefox > but it would be nice it I had the choice. > > Any help would be appreciated. Do you have a proxy set up for KDE apps? -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Anything cut to length will be too short. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Richard -- -- Irena & Richard Jenkins VK1NDV & VK1RJ Canberra, AUSTRALIA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From sebas at kde.nl Tue Oct 18 22:59:36 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:59:36 +0200 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs In-Reply-To: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> On Wednesday 19 October 2005 00:48, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > I've found two separate programs: (1) Firestarter and (2) Guarddog. Tried > them both briefly but was disappointed in the low level of integration of > either into Kubuntu. Neither was configured to start automatically ... and > Guarddog kept offering to change its configuration. Both, guarddog and firestarter are not anti-virus software but firewalls [0]. > What I want is an integrated AV program that just works. Any suggestions > people?? What do you want to do with the anti virus software? (In case you don't know, the chance of getting your Linux system infected by a virus is close to non-existing.) There are anti-virus programs that are mainly used on mailservers, filtering viruses off emails, the best known are amavis and clamav, apt-cache search for them reveals more information. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewall_%28networking%29#Application-layer_firewalls Hope to have helped, -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - So many beautiful women and so little time. - John Barrymore -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Clamav works fine if you really need it and intergrates nicely into kmail with the tools. -- *~~~~~~DakaR http://linux.kwister.com Registered Linux #215413 From pupeno at pupeno.com Tue Oct 18 23:10:48 2005 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (Pupeno) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:10:48 -0300 Subject: wifi Message-ID: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> Does wifi work at all on ubuntu/kubutu ? I've tried many different configurations without any success (it was working all-right on Gentoo). When I run /etc/init.d/network restart it just hangs for a long long time untill it say ok, but ath0 never gets an ip. Currently, my interfaces look like this: iface ath0 inet dhcp wireless-essid Default auto ath0 (among other things of course) Am I missing anything ? Using ubuntu, I managed to get non-wap wifi working in an eye-blink with its graphical tool, I trugled a lot to get it to work with wep and I never got it stable. With kubuntu the graphical interface is totally useless and I can't even get it to connect by hand. My access point is currently configured like this: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled SSID: Default Channel: 6 [x] Auto select Mode Setting: ( ) G Mode (o) Mix Mode SSID Broadcast: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled Security: (o) None ( ) WEP ( ) WPA-PSK ( ) WPA Any ideas are welcome, I intend to enable WEP latter. Thank you. -- Pupeno http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com From pupeno at pupeno.com Tue Oct 18 23:02:24 2005 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (Pupeno) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:02:24 -0300 Subject: problem with some packages Message-ID: <200510182002.27091.pupeno@pupeno.com> What is with this packages that can't be installed ? Am I the only one with this problem ? # apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages will be upgraded: kcontrol kdebase-bin 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 8823kB of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kcontrol 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kdebase-bin 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kcontrol_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase-bin_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? Thank you. -- Pupeno http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Tue Oct 18 23:32:52 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:32:52 +1300 Subject: problem with some packages In-Reply-To: <200510182002.27091.pupeno@pupeno.com> References: <200510182002.27091.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: <200510191232.52318.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:02, Pupeno wrote: > What is with this packages that can't be installed ? Am I the only one with > this problem ? > Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kcontrol > 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kdebase-bin > 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 > Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > Failed to fetch > http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kcontrol_3.4.3-0ubu >ntu5_i386.deb Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > Failed to fetch > http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase-bin_3.4.3-0 >ubuntu5_i386.deb Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with > --fix-missing? Pretty self explanatory, they didn't/can't download properly, try again later, run apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade. There could be a problem with the mirror you are using, hopefully it is only temporary and will be resolved with time. If not then you need to use another mirror. -- *~~~~~~DakaR http://linux.kwister.com Registered Linux #215413 From pupeno at pupeno.com Wed Oct 19 00:13:22 2005 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (Pupeno) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:13:22 -0300 Subject: problem with some packages In-Reply-To: <200510191232.52318.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> References: <200510182002.27091.pupeno@pupeno.com> <200510191232.52318.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <200510182113.24922.pupeno@pupeno.com> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 20:32, David A' Rebel wrote: > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:02, Pupeno wrote: > > What is with this packages that can't be installed ? Am I the only one > > with this problem ? > > > > Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kcontrol > > 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > > Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kdebase-bin > > 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 > > Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > > Failed to fetch > > http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kcontrol_3.4.3-0u > >bu ntu5_i386.deb Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > > Failed to fetch > > http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase-bin_3.4.3 > >-0 ubuntu5_i386.deb Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] > > E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with > > --fix-missing? > > Pretty self explanatory, they didn't/can't download properly, try again > later, I am tring again latter. > run apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade. Same result. > There could be a > problem with the mirror you are using, I changed mirrors and the problem persisted. > hopefully it is only temporary and > will be resolved with time. if by temporary you mean more than I day, I'll keep waiting. > If not then you need to use another mirror. Which ones are know to work ? -- Pupeno http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com From leszabo at philosophy.elte.hu Wed Oct 19 01:31:15 2005 From: leszabo at philosophy.elte.hu (Laszlo E. Szabo) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:31:15 +0200 Subject: How to install Mozilla in 5.10? Message-ID: <200510190331.16664.leszabo@philosophy.elte.hu> I am about to change from Mepis to Kubuntu ....5.10. Could you tell me how to install Mozilla (all, browser and mail), please? It asks for mozilla-browser ...ubuntu2 but there exists only ....ubuntu1. Thanks in advance, Laszlo E. Szabo -- L a s z l o E. S z a b o Theoretical Physics Research Group of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences Department of History and Philosophy of Science Eotvos University, Budapest http://hps.elte.hu/leszabo From mtirao at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 01:49:48 2005 From: mtirao at gmail.com (Marcos Tirao) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:49:48 -0300 Subject: Question about broadband Message-ID: <868F5864-68C4-4B7C-861D-9018770E0082@gmail.com> Hi everybody!! I'm new on kubuntu, and I want to how to configure a broadband internet connection. Does anyone can give a hand on this? Regards. From james at grayonline.id.au Wed Oct 19 02:00:44 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:00:44 +1000 Subject: Kernel Panic since USN-199-1 [WORK AROUND] In-Reply-To: <200510170738.12315.james@grayonline.id.au> References: <200510170738.12315.james@grayonline.id.au> Message-ID: <200510191200.50583.james@grayonline.id.au> On Monday 17 October 2005 07:38, James Gray wrote: > Hi All, > > Some may have seen my Breezy upgrade success story. The reality seems that > the stability issue under Hoary that prompted the upgrade in the first > place is still there. I've narrowed down the start of the problem to the > kernel update made in response to USN-199-1 (Ubuntu Security Notice). > > I'm running an AMD64 3000+ on an Asus K8VSE Deluxe with 1GB of RAM with the > latest 2.6.10-5.?-amd64-k8 kernel. I've reliably recreated the fault with > the following: > 1. Boot normally. > 2. Load enough programs to *almost* fill ram (ie, programs + cache + buffer > is almost 1GB) with no swap in use. > 3. Load something else large enough to prompt the kernel to try and free > some buffer/cache or swap out to disk. > 4. Kernel will throw a bunch of "Unable to handle paging request at > 0x0?????" (the address varies but seems to always be in the range that > is only buffer/cache) into /var/log/kern.log. The remaining details in the > log refer to "{page_clear +7}" or other paging requests with > all the usual register contents etc. > 5. At this point, what ever I loaded in #3 will stop with a "Killed" > message. 6. Either soon after 5, or immediately, the kernel will panic and > it's "Goodnight Irene" for the system. I found that this is definitely a kernel bug in the 2.6.10-5 Breezy AMD64-K8 kernel. To work around it I have installed the 2.6.12 kernel image from the Breezy repo's (Universe/Multiverse? Not sure). If you go this route, be aware the 2.6.12 kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4 so if you're using the NVidia installer (ie, not the ubuntu package), make sure you install gcc-3.4, set the CC environment variable (CC=`which gcc-3.4 && export CC) BEFORE running the NVidia installer. I'll be raising a bug against the 2.6.10-5 k8 kernel in bugzilla.ubuntu.com later today :) Cheers, James -- today, n.: A nice place to visit, but you can't stay here for long. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Everything works fine with > > Firefox but Konqueror gives: > > -------- > > An error occurred while loading http://www.kde.org: > > Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org. > > -------- > > I get this same error for every http request but every ftp, file, > > remote, etc. request works perfectly. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > I couldn't tell you if it work in 5.04 because I always use Firefox > > but it would be nice it I had the choice. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Do you have a proxy set up for KDE apps? > -- > sebas Using kcontrol --> Internet & Network --> Proxy, I have selected the option "Connect to the Internet directly" so I would have to answer that I do not have a proxy setup for KDE apps. If I should be looking elsewhere, I'd be happy to do so but I don't know where. Thanks for you suggestion Sebas. Brad. From kubuntu at cliff1976.com Wed Oct 19 06:21:27 2005 From: kubuntu at cliff1976.com (cliff1976) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:21:27 +0200 Subject: wifi Message-ID: <58e4f2180510182321i5dc86058q826874289e988b3b@mail.gmail.com> I had similar symptoms under Hoary. I followed the instructions under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto and had to install ndiswrapper (even had to compile it myself), but all those instructions were referenced properly in the wikis. I was pleased as punch that I didn't have to go through that again while upgrading to Breezy. I don't know enough modules to say whether that module survived the upgrade, or Breezy has something wonderful about it that just didn't need that module anymore to work with my card. Good luck, cliff1976 Message: 8 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:10:48 -0300 From: Pupeno Subject: wifi To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <200510182010.49888.pupeno at pupeno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Does wifi work at all on ubuntu/kubutu ? I've tried many different configurations without any success (it was working all-right on Gentoo). When I run /etc/init.d/network restart it just hangs for a long long time untill it say ok, but ath0 never gets an ip. Currently, my interfaces look like this: iface ath0 inet dhcp wireless-essid Default auto ath0 (among other things of course) Am I missing anything ? Using ubuntu, I managed to get non-wap wifi working in an eye-blink with its graphical tool, I trugled a lot to get it to work with wep and I never got it stable. With kubuntu the graphical interface is totally useless and I can't even get it to connect by hand. My access point is currently configured like this: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled SSID: Default Channel: 6 [x] Auto select Mode Setting: ( ) G Mode (o) Mix Mode SSID Broadcast: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled Security: (o) None ( ) WEP ( ) WPA-PSK ( ) WPA Any ideas are welcome, I intend to enable WEP latter. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But you only need it if you have a dual boot or multi-kernel setup. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC arthur [at] alexion [dot] com aim: aalexion sms: 2679725536 [at] messaging [dot] sprintpcs [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 19 00:22:23 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:22:23 -0300 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday 19 October 2005 00:48, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: >> I've found two separate programs: (1) Firestarter and (2) Guarddog. >> Tried them both briefly but was disappointed in the low level of >> integration of >> either into Kubuntu. Neither was configured to start automatically ... >> and Guarddog kept offering to change its configuration. > > Both, guarddog and firestarter are not anti-virus software but firewalls > [0]. On top of that, I don't know about firestarter but guarddog is a gnome app. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 19 00:29:01 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:29:01 -0300 Subject: wifi References: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: Pupeno wrote: > Does wifi work at all on ubuntu/kubutu ? I've tried many different Perfectly. > configurations without any success (it was working all-right on Gentoo). > When I run /etc/init.d/network restart it just hangs for a long long time > untill it say ok, but ath0 never gets an ip. And is it, in fact, ath0? My wireless is on eth1, others are on wlan0. > Currently, my interfaces look like this: > iface ath0 inet dhcp > wireless-essid Default > > Using ubuntu, I managed to get non-wap wap? You probably meant either WPA or WEP. > wifi working in an eye-blink with > its graphical tool, I trugled a lot to get it to work with wep and I never > got it stable. With kubuntu the graphical interface is totally useless and Yes... > I can't even get it to connect by hand. > > My access point is currently configured like this: > (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > SSID: Default > Channel: 6 [x] Auto select > Mode Setting: ( ) G Mode (o) Mix Mode > SSID Broadcast: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > Security: (o) None ( ) WEP ( ) WPA-PSK ( ) WPA > > Any ideas are welcome, I intend to enable WEP latter. Why bother? It takes 15 minutes to break WEP. You've got WPA, use it (after you get it working without security). Check syslog for anything from dhclient - what does it say? -- derek From dgvirtual at akl.lt Wed Oct 19 13:43:56 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:43:56 +0300 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs In-Reply-To: References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <43564D9C.4080206@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Derek Broughton ra??: > Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > >>On Wednesday 19 October 2005 00:48, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: >> >>>I've found two separate programs: (1) Firestarter and (2) Guarddog. >>>Tried them both briefly but was disappointed in the low level of >>>integration of >>>either into Kubuntu. Neither was configured to start automatically ... >>>and Guarddog kept offering to change its configuration. >> >>Both, guarddog and firestarter are not anti-virus software but firewalls >>[0]. > > > On top of that, I don't know about firestarter but guarddog is a gnome app. The reverse is true: firestarter is Gnome, GuardDog is KDE (even though it is without a K :) Donatas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQ1ZNnPDtAb8AVdgrAQIcgAP6A/cPtiaJ0Gka3eYSBwQ/bfz/hLJH4fOt MqK3Bm57qemKQf3s4P+mkDt7i8yZ3AhYT+kh5rtpZNZwUOBEL5IlcUwsfHZDt2H9 rMeUFOXDvfOw4dXRRygzBm7DPByf31nxTV/Nc3DTp8D77LlEVCfut0gs6mj2mDKq IDKGIp3iUXs= =CI+2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sclewin at bmts.com Wed Oct 19 14:22:19 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:22:19 -0400 Subject: Some remarks about Kubuntu 5.10 In-Reply-To: <4356242A.1000605@verizon.net> References: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> <435506BF.9040409@bmts.com> <4356242A.1000605@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4356569B.9020900@bmts.com> Art Alexion wrote: > Scott wrote: > > >> the boot screen only pops up then I see the usual list of text >> saying [ok], is the boot screen suppose to only last a couple seconds >> or is there something wrong with my computer? >> >> > The delay is configured in /boot/grub/menu.lst. But you only need it if > you have a dual boot or multi-kernel setup. > You must have misunderstood me. I did not mean the grub screen where all the different OS's are listed, but the screen after that. The one with a nice graphic saying KUbuntu and a progress bar underneath that. It pops up for a few seconds then disappears. I was just wondering if it was not fully implemented right or if my computer had a problem. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Neither was configured to start automatically ... >>>>and Guarddog kept offering to change its configuration. >>> >>>Both, guarddog and firestarter are not anti-virus software but firewalls >>>[0]. >> >> >> On top of that, I don't know about firestarter but guarddog is a gnome >> app. > > The reverse is true: firestarter is Gnome, GuardDog is KDE (even though > it is without a K :) Well, hardly the reverse - I didn't know about firestarter :-) But I was clearly wrong about guarddog (I could have sworn it was a GTK app). Guarddog has the oddest set of dependencies - libxinerama? libxrandr??? -- derek From calcmandan at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 16:38:58 2005 From: calcmandan at gmail.com (Daniel Lausevic) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:38:58 -0700 Subject: Breezy final: Smooth upgrade Message-ID: <8de63d7d0510190938k784d1574h581d2ef323c5edc5@mail.gmail.com> Yeah I did the same thing. Hoary -> Breezy was a smooth process. Smoothest I've ever seen. 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It turned out that in their case, most of what the howto told me to do was irrelevant, since the ISP used DHCP rather than the PPPoE assumed by the howto. Good luck with your connection! Al Preston From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 19 18:14:28 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:14:28 -0400 Subject: Some remarks about Kubuntu 5.10 In-Reply-To: <4356569B.9020900@bmts.com> References: <200510181554.13157.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> <435506BF.9040409@bmts.com> <4356242A.1000605@verizon.net> <4356569B.9020900@bmts.com> Message-ID: <43568D04.1030404@verizon.net> Scott wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >>Scott wrote: >> >> >> >>> the boot screen only pops up then I see the usual list of text >>>saying [ok], is the boot screen suppose to only last a couple seconds >>>or is there something wrong with my computer? >>> >>> >>> >>The delay is configured in /boot/grub/menu.lst. But you only need it if >>you have a dual boot or multi-kernel setup. >> >> > You must have misunderstood me. I did not mean the grub screen where > all the different OS's are listed, but the screen after that. The one > with a nice graphic saying KUbuntu and a progress bar underneath > that. It pops up for a few seconds then disappears. I was just > wondering if it was not fully implemented right or if my computer had > a problem. Sorry. I thought you meant the grub menu. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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I noticed the severe flaws in the Gambas that comes in the default Ubuntu repository, v1.0.3, and I need to use a newer, fixed, one. I installed v1.19.20 on my computer before with v5.04, but now I can't. The dependency "libqt3c102-mt" wants to uninstall all my kde stuff. I also think there may be a few other dependencies that don't work with KUbuntu 5.10. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From devriesbj at gmail.com Wed Oct 19 20:16:14 2005 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:16:14 -0400 Subject: wifi In-Reply-To: References: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: On 10/18/05, Derek Broughton wrote: > Pupeno wrote: > > > Does wifi work at all on ubuntu/kubutu ? I've tried many different > > Perfectly. > > > configurations without any success (it was working all-right on Gentoo). > > When I run /etc/init.d/network restart it just hangs for a long long time > > untill it say ok, but ath0 never gets an ip. > > And is it, in fact, ath0? My wireless is on eth1, others are on wlan0. Mine is ath0 also. I think it has to do with the driver that's used. Mine uses the madwifi driver. > > Currently, my interfaces look like this: > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > wireless-essid Default > > > > Using ubuntu, I managed to get non-wap > > wap? You probably meant either WPA or WEP. > > > wifi working in an eye-blink with > > its graphical tool, I trugled a lot to get it to work with wep and I never > > got it stable. With kubuntu the graphical interface is totally useless and > > Yes... I only ever use the command line. > > I can't even get it to connect by hand. > > > > My access point is currently configured like this: > > (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > > SSID: Default > > Channel: 6 [x] Auto select > > Mode Setting: ( ) G Mode (o) Mix Mode > > SSID Broadcast: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > > Security: (o) None ( ) WEP ( ) WPA-PSK ( ) WPA > > > > Any ideas are welcome, I intend to enable WEP latter. > > Why bother? It takes 15 minutes to break WEP. You've got WPA, use it > (after you get it working without security). > > Check syslog for anything from dhclient - what does it say? When I was running 5.04, it worked great with both no security and with WEP but I couldn't get a stable connection with WPA until I setup a continuous ping to the access point (AP) /router. Now that I've "upgraded" to 5.10, I haven't been able to get it working completly yet. I have been able to get the wireless card to connect to the AP but I never get an IP with dhclient. It doesn't matter if I use no security, WEP or WPA. For those of you who don't know anything about the wireless connection on Linux, if you have no security or WEP enabled, then you only need to use the iwconfig command. If you have WPA enabled, then you need to have something to handle that like wpa_supplicant. Pupeno, if you get your wireless connection working, send a quick message on how you did it. Brad. From leszabo at philosophy.elte.hu Wed Oct 19 23:28:01 2005 From: leszabo at philosophy.elte.hu (Laszlo E. Szabo) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:28:01 +0200 Subject: Xorg.conf for second monitor (beamer, etc.) Message-ID: <200510200128.02279.leszabo@philosophy.elte.hu> I have seen many discussions about how to setup Xorg for a notebook/second monitor or beamer. Here is my solution, which is nothing but a mixture of the original Kubuntu 5.10 Xorg.conf and MEPIS XF86Config-4: 1) Install nvidia-glx 2) Change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the following: ############################################# # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Files" # paths to defoma fonts FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID" FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts" EndSection Section "Module" Load "GLcore" Load "i2c" Load "bitmap" Load "ddc" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "type1" Load "vbe" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "hu" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0" EndSection Section "Monitor" DisplaySize 260 195 Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "unknown" ModelName "unknown" #Option "DPMS" "true" HorizSync 30.0 - 82.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0 # Very conservative. May flicker. Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 #60Hz Modeline "800x600" 40.12 800 848 968 1056 600 601 605 628 #60Hz Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1056 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 ModeLine "1152x864" 65 1152 1168 1384 1480 864 865 875 985 Interlace Modeline "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895 Modeline "1152x864" 110 1152 1240 1324 1552 864 864 876 908 Modeline "1152x864" 135 1152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 908 Modeline "1152x864" 137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536 864 866 885 902 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1280x768" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795 ModeLine "1280x800" 80.58 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 827 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 Modeline "1280x1024" 126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696 1024 1032 1040 1068 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064 Modeline "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +HSync +VSync Modeline "1280x1024" 181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696 1024 1031 1046 1072 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1440x900" 106.47 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 901 904 932 +HSync +VSync Modeline "1400x1050" 129 1400 1464 1656 1960 1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync Modeline "1600x1200" 162 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync Modeline "1600x1200" 189 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 -HSync -VSync Modeline "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync Modeline "1600x1200" 220 1600 1616 1808 2080 1200 1204 1207 1244 +HSync +VSync Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087 ModeLine "1800x1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync ModeLine "1800x1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync Modeline "1920x1200" 230 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync EndSection Section "Device" #Option "sw_cursor" # needed for some ati cards #Option "hw_cursor" #Option "NoAccel" #Option "ShowCache" #Option "ShadowFB" #Option "UseFBDev" #Option "Rotate" #Option "NoUseBios" # needed for some Savage cards Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" # nvidia special options, use with care Option "CursorShadow" "0" Option "CursorShadowAlpha" "63" Option "CursorShadowYOffset" "2" Option "CursorShadowXOffset" "4" Option "FlatPanelProperties" "Scaling = native" Option "NoLogo" "false" Option "IgnoreEdid" "true" # needs to be true for some nvidia cards Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" BoardName "unknown" #BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultColorDepth 16 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection # Only the official NVIDIA driver supports twinview # these setting are an example Option "TwinView" "true" Option "SecondMonitorVendorName" "unknown" Option "SecondMonitorModelName" "unknown" Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-82" Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50-75" Option "MetaModes" "1024x768, 1024x768; 800x600, 800x600; 640x480, 640x480" Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone" Option "ConnectedMonitor" "dfp,dfp" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection ############################################# It works perfectly with my Toshiba Satellite. Laszlo E. Szabo -- L a s z l o E. S z a b o Theoretical Physics Research Group of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences Department of History and Philosophy of Science Eotvos University, Budapest http://hps.elte.hu/leszabo From pupeno at pupeno.com Wed Oct 19 23:46:22 2005 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (Pupeno) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:46:22 -0300 Subject: wifi In-Reply-To: <58e4f2180510182321i5dc86058q826874289e988b3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <58e4f2180510182321i5dc86058q826874289e988b3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510192046.24561.pupeno@pupeno.com> On Wednesday 19 October 2005 03:21, cliff1976 wrote: > I had similar symptoms under Hoary. I followed the instructions under > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto and had to install ndiswrapper (even had > to compile it myself), but all those instructions were referenced properly > in the wikis. My card doesn't need ndiswrapper, only the madwifi drivers (I know because it was all that was required when I was running Gentoo instead of kubuntu). madwifi are provided on linux-restricted-modules, but that version seems not to work. I installed from madwifi sources and it worked. Hurra! -- Pupeno http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com From pupeno at pupeno.com Thu Oct 20 00:23:14 2005 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (Pupeno) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:23:14 -0300 Subject: wifi In-Reply-To: References: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: <200510192123.15762.pupeno@pupeno.com> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 21:29, Derek Broughton wrote: > Pupeno wrote: > > Does wifi work at all on ubuntu/kubutu ? I've tried many different > > Perfectly. Good to know. > > configurations without any success (it was working all-right on Gentoo). > > When I run /etc/init.d/network restart it just hangs for a long long time > > untill it say ok, but ath0 never gets an ip. > > And is it, in fact, ath0? My wireless is on eth1, others are on wlan0. Yes, it is, it was on Gentoo and it is on Kubuntu. I imagine that it is because it has an Atheros chipset. Making the long story short, it seems the madwifi drivers that come with Kubuntu on the linux-restricted-modules doesn't work with my card. I installed madwifi drivers from cvs and it worked. Maybe I should fill a bug report. > > Currently, my interfaces look like this: > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > wireless-essid Default > > > > Using ubuntu, I managed to get non-wap > > wap? You probably meant either WPA or WEP. Yes, wep. > > My access point is currently configured like this: > > (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > > SSID: Default > > Channel: 6 [x] Auto select > > Mode Setting: ( ) G Mode (o) Mix Mode > > SSID Broadcast: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > > Security: (o) None ( ) WEP ( ) WPA-PSK ( ) WPA > > > > Any ideas are welcome, I intend to enable WEP latter. > > Why bother? It takes 15 minutes to break WEP. You've got WPA, use it > (after you get it working without security). It takes 15 and a brain (to at least imagine that it might be breakable, and search for it on google). I know people that are somewhat knowloged on computers and often uses other people's access point and that doesn't know that is breakable. That same people also like to make spam. By using wep I avoid getting my AP used by them. > Check syslog for anything from dhclient - what does it say? ifup ath0 showed me more info, I couldn't get anything on the logs, anyway, I solved it and it was, probably, outdated drivers. -- Pupeno http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com From pupeno at pupeno.com Thu Oct 20 00:25:06 2005 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (Pupeno) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:25:06 -0300 Subject: wifi In-Reply-To: References: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: <200510192125.07961.pupeno@pupeno.com> On Wednesday 19 October 2005 17:16, Brad De Vries wrote: > Pupeno, if you get your wireless connection working, send a quick > message on how you did it. Quick: I downloaded and installed the madwifi drivers from http://madwifi.sf.net. It was impossible to make the ones distributed on linux-restricted-modules to work. I haven't tried wep or wpa yet. -- Pupeno http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com From pupeno at pupeno.com Thu Oct 20 00:28:33 2005 From: pupeno at pupeno.com (Pupeno) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:28:33 -0300 Subject: wifi [Solved] In-Reply-To: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> References: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: <200510192128.34554.pupeno@pupeno.com> Just in case someone missed it, and for the record, I fixed this problem by downloading, compiling and installing the drivers from http://madwifi.sf.net (which are distributed on the package linux-restricted-modules, but doesn't work with my card). Thanks. On Tuesday 18 October 2005 20:10, Pupeno wrote: > Does wifi work at all on ubuntu/kubutu ? I've tried many different > configurations without any success (it was working all-right on Gentoo). > When I run /etc/init.d/network restart it just hangs for a long long time > untill it say ok, but ath0 never gets an ip. > Currently, my interfaces look like this: > iface ath0 inet dhcp > wireless-essid Default > auto ath0 > > (among other things of course) > Am I missing anything ? > > Using ubuntu, I managed to get non-wap wifi working in an eye-blink with > its graphical tool, I trugled a lot to get it to work with wep and I never > got it stable. With kubuntu the graphical interface is totally useless and > I can't even get it to connect by hand. > > My access point is currently configured like this: > (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > SSID: Default > Channel: 6 [x] Auto select > Mode Setting: ( ) G Mode (o) Mix Mode > SSID Broadcast: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > Security: (o) None ( ) WEP ( ) WPA-PSK ( ) WPA > > Any ideas are welcome, I intend to enable WEP latter. > Thank you. > -- > Pupeno > http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com -- Pupeno http://pupeno.com pupeno at pupeno.com From devriesbj at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 04:49:53 2005 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:49:53 -0400 Subject: wifi [Solved] In-Reply-To: <200510192128.34554.pupeno@pupeno.com> References: <200510182010.49888.pupeno@pupeno.com> <200510192128.34554.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: On 10/19/05, Pupeno wrote: > Just in case someone missed it, and for the record, I fixed this problem by > downloading, compiling and installing the drivers from http://madwifi.sf.net > (which are distributed on the package linux-restricted-modules, but doesn't > work with my card). > Thanks. > > On Tuesday 18 October 2005 20:10, Pupeno wrote: > > Does wifi work at all on ubuntu/kubutu ? I've tried many different > > configurations without any success (it was working all-right on Gentoo). > > When I run /etc/init.d/network restart it just hangs for a long long time > > untill it say ok, but ath0 never gets an ip. > > Currently, my interfaces look like this: > > iface ath0 inet dhcp > > wireless-essid Default > > auto ath0 > > > > (among other things of course) > > Am I missing anything ? > > > > Using ubuntu, I managed to get non-wap wifi working in an eye-blink with > > its graphical tool, I trugled a lot to get it to work with wep and I never > > got it stable. With kubuntu the graphical interface is totally useless and > > I can't even get it to connect by hand. > > > > My access point is currently configured like this: > > (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > > SSID: Default > > Channel: 6 [x] Auto select > > Mode Setting: ( ) G Mode (o) Mix Mode > > SSID Broadcast: (o) Enabled ( ) Disabled > > Security: (o) None ( ) WEP ( ) WPA-PSK ( ) WPA > > > > Any ideas are welcome, I intend to enable WEP latter. > > Thank you. > > -- > > Pupeno Thanks, I'll try that straight away -- or at least as soon as possible. From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 20 05:41:33 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 06:41:33 +0100 Subject: reading this list on usenet In-Reply-To: <43568E07.4020808@verizon.net> References: <43568E07.4020808@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > My ISP's news server doesn't have the gmane lists. > > Is there a public news server that I can use to read my ubuntu list mail > via Usenet? > > The server you want is news.gmane.org - Just set up an account in your newsreader for it and you'll be set. From alberto.trujillo at ucd.ie Thu Oct 20 09:20:01 2005 From: alberto.trujillo at ucd.ie (Alberto Trujillo) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 10:20:01 +0100 Subject: How to remove the underline from the files? Message-ID: <43576141.8020101@ucd.ie> Hi everybody: I know that this is a simple question, and even I could resolved the problem when I was working with kde. But now in Kubuntu I can't find where is the option to remove the underline from the files. I have checked the System Settings menu a couple of time, but without any luck. Could anybody tell me how to remove it? Thanks a lot. From sven.kissner at consistencies.net Thu Oct 20 10:40:28 2005 From: sven.kissner at consistencies.net (Sven Kissner) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:40:28 +0200 Subject: How to remove the underline from the files? In-Reply-To: <43576141.8020101@ucd.ie> References: <43576141.8020101@ucd.ie> Message-ID: <200510201240.32574.sven.kissner@consistencies.net> hi alberto, On Thursday 20 October 2005 11:20, Alberto Trujillo wrote: > problem when I was working with kde. But now in Kubuntu I can't find > where is the option to remove the underline from the files. I have > Could anybody tell me how to remove it? konqueror > settings > configure > appearance > underline filenames. ciao, sven -- http://consistenices.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 10:49:48 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:49:48 -0700 Subject: How to remove the underline from the files? In-Reply-To: <43576141.8020101@ucd.ie> References: <43576141.8020101@ucd.ie> Message-ID: <4357764C.50603@gmail.com> On 10/20/2005 02:20 AM, Alberto Trujillo wrote: > Hi everybody: > > I know that this is a simple question, and even I could resolved the > problem when I was working with kde. But now in Kubuntu I can't find > where is the option to remove the underline from the files. I have > checked the System Settings menu a couple of time, but without any luck. > > Could anybody tell me how to remove it? > > Thanks a lot. > Open Konqueror. Settings---->Configure Konqueror---->Appearance Uncheck the "Underline filenames" box and click "OK" From xurxo13 at terra.es Wed Oct 19 21:04:43 2005 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo Fernandez) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:04:43 +0200 Subject: Konqueror sound error References: Message-ID: <000401c5d570$7b971700$0401a8c0@k7> When i browse a website that has sound i get this error: Can't init Audio Driver "alsasink" - trying another one No useable audio-driver found! (alsasink) It did work in Hoary, thats why i find it weird. Did anyone know if something has changed in the sound sistem? When going to the sound configuration it says that it cannot start the sound server. Mp3 and system sounds work. I´m using an old toshiba satellite laptop. Thanks in advance. From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Oct 20 13:07:25 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:07:25 -0400 Subject: reading this list on usenet In-Reply-To: References: <43568E07.4020808@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4357968D.1000700@verizon.net> Martin J Hooper wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >> My ISP's news server doesn't have the gmane lists. >> Is there a public news server that I can use to read my ubuntu list mail >> via Usenet? >> >> > > > The server you want is news.gmane.org - Just set up an account in > your newsreader for it and you'll be set. > > > Thanks. Works fine. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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As a JT> result, no device icon appears on the desktop, and the device is not JT> shown when konqueror is pointed at media:/ (I can still JT> mount/unmount with pmount from the command line). JT> JT> Is this a known issue (with Breezy or the upgrade process)? Is there JT> a workaround? Looks as if it's fixed in the updates which came out today. Thanks to the team for getting things done. James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Thu Oct 20 18:31:07 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:31:07 -0700 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs In-Reply-To: <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <4357E26B.4020100@gmail.com> On 10/18/2005 03:59 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday 19 October 2005 00:48, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > > >> I've found two separate programs: (1) Firestarter and (2) Guarddog. >> Tried >> them both briefly but was disappointed in the low level of >> integration of >> either into Kubuntu. Neither was configured to start automatically >> ... and >> Guarddog kept offering to change its configuration. >> > > > Both, guarddog and firestarter are not anti-virus software but > firewalls [0]. > > > >> What I want is an integrated AV program that just works. Any >> suggestions >> people?? >> > > > What do you want to do with the anti virus software? (In case you > don't know, the chance of getting your Linux system infected by a > virus is close to non-existing [sic] .) > myth. From sebas at kde.nl Thu Oct 20 19:17:47 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?utf-8?q?K=C3=BCgler?=) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:17:47 +0200 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs In-Reply-To: <4357E26B.4020100@gmail.com> References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> <4357E26B.4020100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510202117.51770.sebas@kde.nl> On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:31, Scott wrote: > > What do you want to do with the anti virus software? (In case you > > don't know, the chance of getting your Linux system infected by a > > virus is close to non-existing [sic] .) > > myth. Troll? -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To know that one knows what one knows, and to know that one doesn't know what one doesn't know, there lies true wisdom. - Confucius -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 20 19:41:25 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:41:25 -0300 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> <4357E26B.4020100@gmail.com> Message-ID: Scott wrote: >> What do you want to do with the anti virus software? (In case you >> don't know, the chance of getting your Linux system infected by a >> virus is close to non-existing [sic] .) >> > myth. Really? Could you provide some examples? It's certainly possible, it's _still_ unlikely (perhaps not quite "close to non-existing"). -- derek From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 20 20:35:17 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:35:17 -0500 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs In-Reply-To: References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> <4357E26B.4020100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4357FF85.8080303@bellsouth.net> > >Really? Could you provide some examples? It's certainly possible, it's >_still_ unlikely (perhaps not quite "close to non-existing"). > > Here is a pretty comprehensive discussion of Linux Viruses. The author's opinion is that to get a virus you have to be 1) trying hard to get the virus or 2) really foolish. There are other security risks (hence the need for a firewall) but viruses and other malware are low-risk. http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus#virus5 From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 20 20:55:23 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:55:23 -0500 Subject: Anti-Virus Programs In-Reply-To: <4357FF85.8080303@bellsouth.net> References: <200510190848.57032.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> <200510190059.36809.sebas@kde.nl> <4357E26B.4020100@gmail.com> <4357FF85.8080303@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4358043B.4090407@bellsouth.net> Jay Ouzts wrote: The link can be best summed up in this paragraph: If a user lacks the judgement to use the root account safely, the only way to protect the system from that user is for him/her to /not have root access/. After carrying out this remedy to address the /real/ causes of the problem, adding a "virus checker" is neither necessary nor useful. > >> >> Really? Could you provide some examples? It's certainly possible, it's >> _still_ unlikely (perhaps not quite "close to non-existing"). >> >> > > Here is a pretty comprehensive discussion of Linux Viruses. The > author's opinion is that to get a virus you have to be 1) trying hard > to get the virus or 2) really foolish. There are other security > risks (hence the need for a firewall) but viruses and other malware > are low-risk. > > http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus#virus5 > > From mcurley at eol.ca Fri Oct 21 02:32:37 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:32:37 -0400 Subject: Please Remove Me From The Mailing list In-Reply-To: <20051019131449.80364.qmail@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20051019131449.80364.qmail@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510202232.37394.mcurley@eol.ca> On Wednesday 19 October 2005 09:14, steven petty wrote: > Please Remove Me From The Mailing list > > Try the http site listed at the bottom using your browser. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Fri Oct 21 02:49:21 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:49:21 -0400 Subject: Konqueror failing to load webpages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200510202249.21958.mcurley@eol.ca> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 17:46, Brad De Vries wrote: > Hey all, I recently upgraded to 5.10 and I'm getting an error on > every web page that I try when I use Konqueror. Everything works > fine with Firefox but Konqueror gives: > -------- > An error occurred while loading http://www.kde.org: > Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org. > -------- > I get this same error for every http request but every ftp, file, > remote, etc. request works perfectly. > The only times I have ever seen this with Konq. is when my local Lan is not working. I almost never use Firefox, but they have both worked or not at the same time. I have installed 5.10 on just one of my 4 computers and Konq works ok as it does in Hoary. If you have a local firewall/gateway try entering its I.P. address in the location area. I can't think of a Config setting that would stop it, your proxy setting is correct. Sorry to be of little help, but Konq works ok out of the box. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 03:10:58 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:10:58 -0700 Subject: knemo and kded problems. Message-ID: <43585C42.2070605@gmail.com> I happened upon Knemo in the Universe repository recently and I thought I'd give it a try. That was a big mistake. It relies on some part of kdelibs called "kded" and it eats memory like it's going out of style. At one point it's usage was over 1GB. I found out when my computer was crawling. I looked at the process table and found the culprit. I tried restarting only to find it was chowing down on memory again so I killed Knemo and uninstalled it. kded is behaving now. I wish this could be fixed somehow. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I'm running Kubuntu Breezy (i386) with it's default KDE installation. Thanks in advance. From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Fri Oct 21 05:19:24 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:19:24 +1300 Subject: knemo and kded problems. In-Reply-To: <43585C42.2070605@gmail.com> References: <43585C42.2070605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510211819.24465.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:10, Scott wrote: > I happened upon Knemo in the Universe repository recently and I thought > I'd give it a try. > > That was a big mistake. It relies on some part of kdelibs called "kded" > and it eats memory like it's going out of style. > > At one point it's usage was over 1GB. I found out when my computer was > crawling. I looked at the process table and found the culprit. > > I tried restarting only to find it was chowing down on memory again so I > killed Knemo and uninstalled it. > > kded is behaving now. > > I wish this could be fixed somehow. > > Has anyone else had a similar experience? No I haven't but I don't like it much anyway, if you just want an idicator on the taskbar or how the network is behaving, knetload is good for that. -- *~~~~~~DakaR http://linux.kwister.com Registered Linux #215413 From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 06:28:03 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:28:03 -0700 Subject: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt packages causes GNOME to crash. Message-ID: <43588A73.9080207@gmail.com> Are you using both GNOME and KDE on Breezy? I am. If you are too, have you had this problem? It's beyond irritating. I filed a bug report. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18210 I've completely uninstalled and reinstalled Breezy twice and the problem returns each time. If you're having the same (or very similar) problem, feel free to add your $.02 to the bug report. Thanks. Regards, From devriesbj at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 13:04:13 2005 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:04:13 -0400 Subject: Konqueror failing to load webpages In-Reply-To: <200510202249.21958.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <200510202249.21958.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: On 10/20/05, Merv Curley wrote: > On Tuesday 18 October 2005 17:46, Brad De Vries wrote: > > Hey all, I recently upgraded to 5.10 and I'm getting an error on > > every web page that I try when I use Konqueror. Everything works > > fine with Firefox but Konqueror gives: > > -------- > > An error occurred while loading http://www.kde.org: > > Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org. > > -------- > > I get this same error for every http request but every ftp, file, > > remote, etc. request works perfectly. > > > > The only times I have ever seen this with Konq. is when my local Lan > is not working. I almost never use Firefox, but they have both > worked or not at the same time. > > I have installed 5.10 on just one of my 4 computers and Konq works ok > as it does in Hoary. If you have a local firewall/gateway try > entering its I.P. address in the location area. I can't think of a > Config setting that would stop it, your proxy setting is correct. > > Sorry to be of little help, but Konq works ok out of the box. > > -- > Merv Curley > Toronto, Ont.Can > > Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 > KDE v. 3.4.2 > Kontact v. 1.1.2 Thanks Merv, but I hardwire connect to my router via eth0 and it still doesn't work. I could literally have both firefox and konq running side-by-side, firefox will work and konq will not. As for the proxy settings, I've checked kcontrol to verify that it's not setup but am willing to check elsewhere if you can give me an idea where. Thanks, Brad. From dgvirtual at akl.lt Fri Oct 21 17:21:14 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:21:14 +0300 Subject: usb stick issue Message-ID: <200510212021.14338.dgvirtual@akl.lt> OK, is there a way to fix this problem: When I attach to my computer the usb stick, I do not see it in media:/ and I get an error message, saying that media:/sda1 could not be mounted. Bu the stick does get mounted at /media/usbdisk Is there a way to work around this? Edit some file? Neither /etc/fstab nor /etc/mtab has an entry with usbdisk or sda1... I did not have this problem in Hoary (flash drive would be shown as media:/sda1 and I could mount it myself and unmount...), but now I Have it in breezy... -- Donatas Glodenis From jr at jriddell.org Fri Oct 21 17:34:50 2005 From: jr at jriddell.org (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:34:50 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] katapult doesn't find half of my apps In-Reply-To: <200510140117.23981.sebas@kde.nl> References: <200510140117.23981.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <20051021173450.GX11663@muse.19inch.net> On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 01:17:23AM +0200, Sebastian K??gler wrote: > katapult looks pretty slick, but it doesn't recognize a lot of my apps, let > alone aliases for apps. > It seems that if there's not .desktop file for an application, it won't > recognize it, and I can't even start it if I type the whole command and press > enter. (Try simply "xterm" for example.) > If it can't find something, couldn't it just dump the command into a shell and > try? Yes, it uses the XDG menu for find applications. That makes it much more user friendly in my opinion. Dropping back to command line would be one possibility but if its a command line problem you may as well just run it from a command line, GUI programs should have XDG menu entries I'd say. > Furthermore, it can't deal with konqueror's shortcuts, e.g. accessing Qt's API > docs via "qt widget" doesn't work. Yeah, that would be good. > Can this be fixed easily? I can't seem to find any configuration for katapult, > and on kde-apps.org, it says it's basically abandonware. Does it have a new > maintainer maybe? Kubuntu is the new maintainer, all help welcome :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Katapult Jonathan From jriddell at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 21 17:30:07 2005 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:30:07 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20051021173007.GW11663@muse.19inch.net> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:41:47PM -0500, Troy Williams wrote: > I have been using Breezy for awhile and the updates (yesterday I believe) seem > to have broken crypto in Kmail. Unable to sign/encrypt mail due to it > inability to use pgp. Is anyone else seeing this or knows of a solution? The fix for this is in breezy-updates now. Jonathan Riddell From jriddell at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 21 17:37:55 2005 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:37:55 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Very disappointed In-Reply-To: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> References: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20051021173755.GZ11663@muse.19inch.net> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 09:28:31PM -0500, Jay Ouzts wrote: > I just upgraded from Breezy RC-1. The release version of Breezy does > not seem to recognize my IPod or USB flash drive. The RC version did > without a hitch. > > I did use apt-get upgrade. Did anyone else notice these problems? If > so, I will reinstall the RC. Fixed in breezy-updates. Jonathan From jriddell at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 21 19:54:08 2005 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:54:08 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] usb stick issue In-Reply-To: <200510212021.14338.dgvirtual@akl.lt> References: <200510212021.14338.dgvirtual@akl.lt> Message-ID: <20051021195408.GM11663@muse.19inch.net> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 08:21:14PM +0300, Donatas G. wrote: > OK, is there a way to fix this problem: > > When I attach to my computer the usb stick, I do not see it in media:/ and I > get an error message, saying that media:/sda1 could not be mounted. > > Bu the stick does get mounted at /media/usbdisk Install the kdebase updates from breezy-updates. Jonathan From jriddell at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 21 20:02:09 2005 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:02:09 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Forward of moderated message Message-ID: <20051021200209.GO11663@muse.19inch.net> Attachment was too large for list, now at http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/uglyfonts.png The fonts look fine to me. ----- Forwarded message from kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com ----- Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:26:34 +0200 From: "R.P.M.Koendering" Subject: RE: some remarks about kubuntu 5.10 To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Reply-to: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl People ask me what is wrong with my fonts, so included a screenshot uglyfonts.png Any solution? PCLos From brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com Fri Oct 21 22:01:19 2005 From: brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com (Brant Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:01:19 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <20051021173007.GW11663@muse.19inch.net> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> <20051021173007.GW11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <4359652F.1090708@bfcomputerconsulting.com> Jonathan Riddell wrote: >On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:41:47PM -0500, Troy Williams wrote: > > >>I have been using Breezy for awhile and the updates (yesterday I believe) seem >>to have broken crypto in Kmail. Unable to sign/encrypt mail due to it >>inability to use pgp. Is anyone else seeing this or knows of a solution? >> >> > >The fix for this is in breezy-updates now. > >Jonathan Riddell > > > When were they put up? The ones that were put up a few days ago fixed kmail's inability to use gpg but now I can only encrypt messages -- no decryption. This happens with new users as well so it's not a problem with anything in ~/.kde. I've since gone back to Thunderbird and it's excellent, excellent, excellent IMAP performance, bad address book and absent calendar. Any thoughts on getting kmail straight on the head? -- Brant Fitzsimmons brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Strange times are these in which we live when the old and the young are taught falsehoods in the schools of learning. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool." -Plato -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com Fri Oct 21 22:17:17 2005 From: brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com (Brant Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:17:17 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <4359652F.1090708@bfcomputerconsulting.com> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> <20051021173007.GW11663@muse.19inch.net> <4359652F.1090708@bfcomputerconsulting.com> Message-ID: <435968ED.5000508@bfcomputerconsulting.com> Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: >Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > >>On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:41:47PM -0500, Troy Williams wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>I have been using Breezy for awhile and the updates (yesterday I believe) seem >>>to have broken crypto in Kmail. Unable to sign/encrypt mail due to it >>>inability to use pgp. Is anyone else seeing this or knows of a solution? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>The fix for this is in breezy-updates now. >> >>Jonathan Riddell >> >> >> >> >> > >When were they put up? The ones that were put up a few days ago fixed >kmail's inability to use gpg but now I can only encrypt messages -- no >decryption. This happens with new users as well so it's not a problem >with anything in ~/.kde. > >I've since gone back to Thunderbird and it's excellent, excellent, >excellent IMAP performance, bad address book and absent calendar. Any >thoughts on getting kmail straight on the head? > > > That would be "straight in the head." If that even makes sense. :-) -- Brant Fitzsimmons brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Strange times are these in which we live when the old and the young are taught falsehoods in the schools of learning. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool." -Plato -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 22:40:10 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:40:10 -0700 Subject: problem with some packages In-Reply-To: <200510182002.27091.pupeno@pupeno.com> References: <200510182002.27091.pupeno@pupeno.com> Message-ID: <43596E4A.20806@gmail.com> On 10/18/2005 04:02 PM, Pupeno wrote: >What is with this packages that can't be installed ? Am I the only one with >this problem ? > ># apt-get upgrade >Reading package lists... Done >Building dependency tree... Done >The following packages will be upgraded: > kcontrol kdebase-bin >2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. >Need to get 8823kB of archives. >After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. >Do you want to continue [Y/n]? >Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kcontrol 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 > Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] >Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main kdebase-bin >4:3.4.3-0ubuntu5 > Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] >Failed to fetch >http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kcontrol_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb >Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] >Failed to fetch >http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase-bin_3.4.3-0ubuntu5_i386.deb >Bad header line [IP: 130.239.18.165 80] >E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with >--fix-missing? > >Thank you. > > Ubuntu needs to find a better host for it's primary US mirror. I got tired or problems at that site and abandoned it several weeks ago. There are a number of (less publicized) US mirrors that are much better. My fave is http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu -- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2005 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Fri Oct 21 22:55:00 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:55:00 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <4359652F.1090708@bfcomputerconsulting.com> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> <20051021173007.GW11663@muse.19inch.net> <4359652F.1090708@bfcomputerconsulting.com> Message-ID: <1129935300.8904.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> I've just managed to upgrade after numerous attempts with apt-get and then I read the docs and found that you could do it with Synaptic just by changing the repositories screen. Wonderful, no real problems and when there is a glitch you have another go and gradually everything gets fixed. I've not found a single non-functioning package as yet (touching wood). Cheers, Derek On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 18:01 -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > >On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:41:47PM -0500, Troy Williams wrote: > > > > > >>I have been using Breezy for awhile and the updates (yesterday I believe) seem > >>to have broken crypto in Kmail. Unable to sign/encrypt mail due to it > >>inability to use pgp. Is anyone else seeing this or knows of a solution? > >> > >> > > > >The fix for this is in breezy-updates now. > > > >Jonathan Riddell > > > > > > > > When were they put up? The ones that were put up a few days ago fixed > kmail's inability to use gpg but now I can only encrypt messages -- no > decryption. This happens with new users as well so it's not a problem > with anything in ~/.kde. > > I've since gone back to Thunderbird and it's excellent, excellent, > excellent IMAP performance, bad address book and absent calendar. Any > thoughts on getting kmail straight on the head? > From brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com Fri Oct 21 23:05:46 2005 From: brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com (Brant Fitzsimmons) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:05:46 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <1129935300.8904.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> <20051021173007.GW11663@muse.19inch.net> <4359652F.1090708@bfcomputerconsulting.com> <1129935300.8904.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4359744A.8010600@bfcomputerconsulting.com> Derek Shields wrote: >I've just managed to upgrade after numerous attempts with apt-get and >then I read the docs and found that you could do it with Synaptic just >by changing the repositories screen. Wonderful, no real problems and >when there is a glitch you have another go and gradually everything gets >fixed. I've not found a single non-functioning package as yet (touching >wood). Cheers, Derek > So you are able to encrypt and decrypt emails in kmail? -- Brant Fitzsimmons brant at bfcomputerconsulting.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Strange times are these in which we live when the old and the young are taught falsehoods in the schools of learning. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool." -Plato -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dgvirtual at akl.lt Sat Oct 22 08:25:58 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:25:58 +0300 Subject: [kubuntu-users] usb stick issue In-Reply-To: <20051021195408.GM11663@muse.19inch.net> References: <200510212021.14338.dgvirtual@akl.lt> <20051021195408.GM11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200510221125.58784.dgvirtual@akl.lt> 2005 m. spalis 21 d., penktadienis 22:54, Jonathan Riddell rašė: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 08:21:14PM +0300, Donatas G. wrote: > > OK, is there a way to fix this problem: > > > > When I attach to my computer the usb stick, I do not see it in media:/ > > and I get an error message, saying that media:/sda1 could not be mounted. > > > > Bu the stick does get mounted at /media/usbdisk > > Install the kdebase updates from breezy-updates. > Thank you, I didn't even know there was this breezy-updates source.... It did solve the problem. -- Donatas Glodenis From zoeblackmore at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 09:53:54 2005 From: zoeblackmore at gmail.com (zoe blackmore) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 10:53:54 +0100 Subject: Daft newbie can not get past login page Message-ID: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> Hi I am hoping some kind soul can give me some guidance to a linux newbie/technodummy (please be gentle). I am using Ubuntu/Kubuntu 5.10 I boot up ok to the login page, put the correct password in the screen processess it for a few seconds and then returns to the login page..on whatever option I choose kde/gnome/failsafe. What should i do. many thanks zoe -- Linux for Human Beings ~ Ubuntu/Kubuntu http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ http://www.kubuntu.org/ From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Sat Oct 22 10:02:27 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:02:27 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] GPGME was compiled without support for openpgp? In-Reply-To: <4359744A.8010600@bfcomputerconsulting.com> References: <200510131641.47095.troywill1@gmail.com> <20051021173007.GW11663@muse.19inch.net> <4359652F.1090708@bfcomputerconsulting.com> <1129935300.8904.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4359744A.8010600@bfcomputerconsulting.com> Message-ID: <1129975347.8929.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Apparently, Brant, I've just tested it with a friend and all seems to be working OK. I'm not a regular Kmail user but as far as I can tell it my friend and I can send encrypted stuff to each other and it reads OK too. Derek On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 19:05 -0400, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > Derek Shields wrote: > > >I've just managed to upgrade after numerous attempts with apt-get and > >then I read the docs and found that you could do it with Synaptic just > >by changing the repositories screen. Wonderful, no real problems and > >when there is a glitch you have another go and gradually everything gets > >fixed. I've not found a single non-functioning package as yet (touching > >wood). Cheers, Derek > > > > So you are able to encrypt and decrypt emails in kmail? > From jriddell at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 22 12:04:06 2005 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:04:06 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Daft newbie can not get past login page In-Reply-To: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> References: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20051022120405.GT11663@muse.19inch.net> On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 10:53:54AM +0100, zoe blackmore wrote: > I am hoping some kind soul can give me some guidance to a linux > newbie/technodummy (please be gentle). > > I am using Ubuntu/Kubuntu 5.10 > I boot up ok to the login page, put the correct password in the screen > processess it for a few seconds and then returns to the login page..on > whatever option I choose kde/gnome/failsafe. What should i do. Either something is very wrong or you're putting in an incorrect password (or you have caps-lock on). Go to a text console with cntrl-alt-F1 and try logging in there, if that doesn't let you log in it's a wrong password. (Get back to graphical with alt-F7.) Jonathan Riddell From sebas at kde.nl Sat Oct 22 12:08:23 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:08:23 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] katapult doesn't find half of my apps In-Reply-To: <20051021173450.GX11663@muse.19inch.net> References: <200510140117.23981.sebas@kde.nl> <20051021173450.GX11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200510221408.23390.sebas@kde.nl> Hi Jonathan, On Friday 21 October 2005 19:34, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 01:17:23AM +0200, Sebastian K??gler wrote: > > katapult looks pretty slick, but it doesn't recognize a lot of my apps, > > let alone aliases for apps. > > It seems that if there's not .desktop file for an application, it won't > > recognize it, and I can't even start it if I type the whole command and > > press enter. (Try simply "xterm" for example.) > > > > If it can't find something, couldn't it just dump the command into a > > shell and try? > > Yes, it uses the XDG menu for find applications. That makes it much > more user friendly in my opinion. Dropping back to command line would > be one possibility but if its a command line problem you may as well > just run it from a command line, GUI programs should have XDG menu > entries I'd say. Yeah, but the reality is that not every GUI program has a XDG entry yet (try xterm in kubuntu, for example). -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The world is moving so fast these days that the man who says it can't be done is generally interrupted by someone doing it. - E. Hubbard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dropping back to command line would > > be one possibility but if its a command line problem you may as well > > just run it from a command line, GUI programs should have XDG menu > > entries I'd say. > > Yeah, but the reality is that not every GUI program has a XDG entry yet (try > xterm in kubuntu, for example). Something wrong with konsole? :) Jonathan From sebas at kde.nl Sat Oct 22 12:31:36 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?iso-8859-1?q?K=FCgler?=) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:31:36 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] katapult doesn't find half of my apps In-Reply-To: <20051022121123.GU11663@muse.19inch.net> References: <200510140117.23981.sebas@kde.nl> <200510221408.23390.sebas@kde.nl> <20051022121123.GU11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200510221431.36839.sebas@kde.nl> On Saturday 22 October 2005 14:11, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 02:08:23PM +0200, Sebastian K?gler wrote: > > > Yes, it uses the XDG menu for find applications. That makes it much > > > more user friendly in my opinion. Dropping back to command line would > > > be one possibility but if its a command line problem you may as well > > > just run it from a command line, GUI programs should have XDG menu > > > entries I'd say. > > > > Yeah, but the reality is that not every GUI program has a XDG entry yet > > (try xterm in kubuntu, for example). > > Something wrong with konsole? :) Hello no! ;-) The problem is that sometimes I'd like to pass arguments to programs, often in the form of aliases or short scriptlets in /usr/local/bin), which is not possible using katapult, it seems. (And I use eterm as my IRC shell which I'd like to have separated from my normal shells.) Put shortly, I'd love to replace [alt]+F2 by katapult, but it's just not there, feature-wise yet. -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - You can have my Unix system when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. - Cal Keegan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Oct 22 12:23:20 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:23:20 -0300 Subject: [kubuntu-users] katapult doesn't find half of my apps References: <200510140117.23981.sebas@kde.nl> <20051021173450.GX11663@muse.19inch.net> <200510221408.23390.sebas@kde.nl> <20051022121123.GU11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 02:08:23PM +0200, Sebastian K?gler wrote: >> > Yes, it uses the XDG menu for find applications. That makes it much >> > more user friendly in my opinion. Dropping back to command line would >> > be one possibility but if its a command line problem you may as well >> > just run it from a command line, GUI programs should have XDG menu >> > entries I'd say. >> >> Yeah, but the reality is that not every GUI program has a XDG entry yet >> (try xterm in kubuntu, for example). > > Something wrong with konsole? :) > Good question - do we really _want_ xdg entries for all the more primitive X apps? I've complained before that kubuntu turns _off_ menu entries (they're there, but hidden) for KDE apps I think should be on the menu (actually, maybe it doesn't any more, but in the early days of my hoary use it seemed to be a problem). This just demonstrates that I'd draw the line of what should be allowed to clutter the menus in a different place from the kubuntu developers. -- derek From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Sat Oct 22 14:22:49 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.P.M.Koendering) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:22:49 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Forward of moderated message In-Reply-To: <20051021200209.GO11663@muse.19inch.net> References: <20051021200209.GO11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200510221622.49781.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> On Friday 21 October 2005 22:02, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Attachment was too large for list, now at > > http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/uglyfonts.png > > The fonts look fine to me. > > ----- Forwarded message from kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com ----- > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:26:34 +0200 > From: "R.P.M.Koendering" > Subject: RE: some remarks about kubuntu 5.10 > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Reply-to: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl > > > People ask me what is wrong with my fonts, so included a screenshot > uglyfonts.png > > Any solution? > > PCLos I still believe they are not smooth! Can anybody or you Jonathan explain to me how to get the fonts a bit more fat. They are so thin that the look ugly on my laptop CRT. I run Kubuntu on my Compaq Presario 714EA PCLos From prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca Sat Oct 22 14:23:51 2005 From: prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca (Preston & Betti Ann Smith) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:23:51 -0300 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird Message-ID: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> Good morning all! I am an absolute newby with Linux so please be patient with me The install only had one hitch. I first created the Kubuntu CD using the iso image using Nero at a speed of 8. When attempting the install, it could not find the CD drive it was installing from and just generally got confused. So I re burned the CS at speed 4 (the slowest speed on my burner) and the install went seamlessly - almost "hands off". I just installed Kubuntu on my system which is dual boot with XP Home. The installer created two partitions - / and Swap on my 6.4 GB drive Is this the recommended partition structure? I am ready to make changes is necessary - I have read that perhaps there should be another partition where I would keep personal data that would not be deleted when I do a complete reinstall of Kubuntu or another variant. Before I go too far I would like to make sure that i have the right foundation in place. I also installed Thunderbird which is the email client I have been using in XP. I would like to have a single profile which would be used by both OS's. Can someone give me some advise of how to do this? In fact I would like this profile to be accessible by my laptop (W98SE) which is also on my home network so that the desktop and laptop T'Bird profiles would automatically stay in sync - any ideas on how to do that? I have a HP Photosmart 2610 as a network printer on home network. It does not seem to be accessible. How do i go about getting access to it from Kubuntu? Sorry for the sort of dumb questions but I must start the learning process somewhere Thanks Preston From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Sat Oct 22 14:43:14 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.P.M.Koendering) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:43:14 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! Message-ID: <200510221643.15115.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Software ScottD writes: Programmers released version 2.0 of OpenOffice.org on Thursday, a major overhaul to the open source software suite that has recently become a more serious rival to Microsoft Office. Can we (Kubuntu users) expact an official update for the final version? PCLos From r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl Sat Oct 22 15:50:40 2005 From: r.p.m.koendering at planet.nl (R.P.M.Koendering) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:50:40 +0200 Subject: where to find a flashplugin-nonfree? Message-ID: <200510221750.41212.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> where to find a flashplug-in-nonfree for Kubuntu 5.10 hoary? PCLos From claydoh at claydoh.com Sat Oct 22 17:09:14 2005 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:09:14 -0400 Subject: where to find a flashplugin-nonfree? In-Reply-To: <200510221750.41212.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200510221750.41212.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <435A723A.6030600@claydoh.com> R.P.M.Koendering wrote: > where to find a flashplug-in-nonfree for Kubuntu 5.10 hoary? > > PCLos > it is in multiverse, you will need to enable that in your sources.list. From http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/flashplugin-nonfree "This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from Macromedia (or mirror)" If you want to have it installed for you, then get flashplayer-mozilla -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From tineconcurso at ono.com Sat Oct 22 18:24:45 2005 From: tineconcurso at ono.com (TiNePaS) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 20:24:45 +0200 Subject: Media:/ no run again Message-ID: <200510222024.46070.tineconcurso@ono.com> Media:// is empy. I upgrade my system and install the kernel for K7 and my media:// is empy. Help me. The Pendrive mount it perfect. But don't show the partitions. -- TiNePaS Agali http://www.agali.org Asociación de Gaditanos Linuxeros From sclewin at bmts.com Sat Oct 22 20:40:49 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:40:49 -0400 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> References: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> Preston & Betti Ann Smith wrote: > Is this the recommended partition structure? I am ready to make > changes is necessary I have also switched from XP to Linux like you did 4 months ago. If you have a dual boot system I suggest you have a FAT 32 partition that both computers can read. This will make it easier to share files between the two systems. The only problem with Kubuntu right now is that, in my case, the FAT32 partition is readable by all but only writable by the root and I don't know how to fix this. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From angrykeyboarder at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 20:46:26 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at gmail.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:46:26 -0700 Subject: where to find a flashplugin-nonfree? In-Reply-To: <435A723A.6030600@claydoh.com> References: <200510221750.41212.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> <435A723A.6030600@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <435AA522.6050609@gmail.com> On 10/22/2005 10:09 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > R.P.M.Koendering wrote: > >> where to find a flashplug-in-nonfree for Kubuntu 5.10 hoary? >> >> PCLos >> > it is in multiverse, you will need to enable that in your sources.list. > > > From http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/flashplugin-nonfree > "This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from Macromedia > (or mirror)" > > If you want to have it installed for you, then get flashplayer-mozilla > That's right. flashplayer-mozilla is the package you want if you want the flash plugin for Firefox or Mozilla Suite. From jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca Sat Oct 22 21:54:11 2005 From: jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca (Jamon Camisso) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 17:54:11 -0400 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> References: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> Message-ID: Scott wrote: > Preston & Betti Ann Smith wrote: > >> Is this the recommended partition structure? I am ready to make >> changes is necessary > > I have also switched from XP to Linux like you did 4 months ago. If you > have a dual boot system I suggest you have a FAT 32 partition that both > computers can read. This will make it easier to share files between the > two systems. The only problem with Kubuntu right now is that, in my > case, the FAT32 partition is readable by all but only writable by the > root and I don't know how to fix this. man fstab sudo nano /etc/fstab Those should get you going. From jason at jeetkunedomaster.net Sat Oct 22 22:36:46 2005 From: jason at jeetkunedomaster.net (Jason Straight) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 18:36:46 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Very disappointed In-Reply-To: <20051021173755.GZ11663@muse.19inch.net> References: <434F17CF.8070903@bellsouth.net> <20051021173755.GZ11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200510221836.46859.jason@jeetkunedomaster.net> On Friday 21 October 2005 13:37, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 09:28:31PM -0500, Jay Ouzts wrote: > > I just upgraded from Breezy RC-1. The release version of Breezy does > > not seem to recognize my IPod or USB flash drive. The RC version did > > without a hitch. > > > > I did use apt-get upgrade. Did anyone else notice these problems? If > > so, I will reinstall the RC. > > Fixed in breezy-updates. > > Jonathan I dunno, I just installed yesterday, updates done, and still my system has the following problems with external storage: mounted automatically no matter that I have noauto in fstab KDE pops open windows automatically (like microsuck) except they often contain the error that the mountpoint doesn't exist. So I have 2 questions, what controls automounting? And how can I disable it? It seems to be independent of KDE as my drives get mounted even before kde login. And how can I stop kde from opening windows for newly discovered media - since it doesn't work anyway? -- | Ubuntu Linux | www.ubuntulinux.org | | Kubuntu | www.kubuntu.org From prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca Sat Oct 22 22:56:58 2005 From: prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca (Betti Ann & Preston Smith) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:56:58 -0300 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> References: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> Message-ID: <435AC3BA.8040808@ns.sympatico.ca> Scott! Thanks for the note. I have a Dual Boot system with Fat 32 partitions. Go to http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows and you will find the exact process on how to mount the windows partition at boot up Now if I could just figure out how to get Kubuntu to see my HP 2610 connected to the router of my home network - I will keep searching and eventually find a solution Good luck Preston Scott said the following on 22-Oct-05 17:40: > Preston & Betti Ann Smith wrote: > >> Is this the recommended partition structure? I am ready to make >> changes is necessary > > I have also switched from XP to Linux like you did 4 months ago. If you > have a dual boot system I suggest you have a FAT 32 partition that both > computers can read. This will make it easier to share files between the > two systems. The only problem with Kubuntu right now is that, in my > case, the FAT32 partition is readable by all but only writable by the > root and I don't know how to fix this. > From calcmandan at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 23:03:49 2005 From: calcmandan at gmail.com (Daniel Lausevic) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:03:49 -0700 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! Message-ID: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> Wanting to avoid the apt-get installed version, I only downloaded it to install on my redhat drive. The entire thing is packaged as RPM's. The desktop configuration packages are seperated and in a different directory. So I really hope v2.0 packages get pushed into the repos soon. -- D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jason at jeetkunedomaster.net Sat Oct 22 23:25:13 2005 From: jason at jeetkunedomaster.net (Jason Straight) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 19:25:13 -0400 Subject: 5.10 KDE Automount Annoyance Message-ID: <200510221925.13822.jason@jeetkunedomaster.net> I've been messing with this for too long, this is annoying enough to make me give up and use windows (which I haven't done for years) as my primary OS. Anyway, KDE mounts my external storage automatically and there seems to be no way to get it to quit, additionally annoying is that it opens konq to media:/ for every partition, additionally annoying is that it does so even for extended partitions which it can't mount (for obvious reasons). I've gone into kcontrol and stopped the KDED Media Manager, but it still does it, this needs to be made configurable somehow, first to turn off automounting alltogether, second an option to let it mount but not open a window automatically. It's getting to be like using windows, only windows actually works when you do this, and you can turn it off. -- | Ubuntu Linux | www.ubuntulinux.org | | Kubuntu | www.kubuntu.org From golfbuf at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 01:09:59 2005 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:09:59 -0400 Subject: katapult howto? Message-ID: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> I'm not familiar with this, but am reading the quick start guide, which says Alt-Space will activate Katapult. For me Alt-Space does nothing. Typing 'katapult' in a konsole causes scrolling messages, like this: :~$ katapult Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror Ignored duplicate item: Synaptic Package Manager Ignored duplicate item: Language Selector Ignored duplicate item: Shared Folders Ignored duplicate item: Synaptic Package Manager Ignored duplicate item: Update Manager Ignored duplicate item: Networking after a while the konsole stops and I have to hit Ctl-C to get back to the prompt. I don't find any info with 'man katapult', on the wiki, or the doc/katapult/README. What am I to do to use Katapult? TIA, From golfbuf at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 01:20:06 2005 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:20:06 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! In-Reply-To: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <835a7820510221820k67e02772i22257647fad6872d@mail.gmail.com> On 10/22/05, Daniel Lausevic wrote: > Wanting to avoid the apt-get installed version, I only downloaded it to > install on my redhat drive. The entire thing is packaged as RPM's. The > desktop configuration packages are seperated and in a different directory. > So I really hope v2.0 packages get pushed into the repos soon. > Do you know if there's any difference between the openoffice.org2-1.9.129-0ubuntu4 that's already standard for kubuntu? regards, From golfbuf at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 01:27:45 2005 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:27:45 -0400 Subject: 5.10 KDE Automount Annoyance In-Reply-To: <200510221925.13822.jason@jeetkunedomaster.net> References: <200510221925.13822.jason@jeetkunedomaster.net> Message-ID: <835a7820510221827s72378298x53af0c3e42d66414@mail.gmail.com> On 10/22/05, Jason Straight wrote: > I've been messing with this for too long, this is annoying enough to make me > give up and use windows (which I haven't done for years) as my primary OS. > > Anyway, KDE mounts my external storage automatically and there seems to be no > way to get it to quit, additionally annoying is that it opens konq to media:/ > for every partition, additionally annoying is that it does so even for > extended partitions which it can't mount (for obvious reasons). > > I've gone into kcontrol and stopped the KDED Media Manager, but it still does > it, this needs to be made configurable somehow, first to turn off > automounting alltogether, second an option to let it mount but not open a > window automatically. It's getting to be like using windows, only windows > actually works when you do this, and you can turn it off. > did you notice there are 3 KDED's in kcontrol? Still didn't work .. maybe you have to logout / in. From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Oct 23 07:03:08 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:03:08 +0100 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> References: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> Message-ID: Scott wrote: > Preston & Betti Ann Smith wrote: > >> Is this the recommended partition structure? I am ready to make >> changes is necessary > > I have also switched from XP to Linux like you did 4 months ago. If you > have a dual boot system I suggest you have a FAT 32 partition that both > computers can read. This will make it easier to share files between the > two systems. The only problem with Kubuntu right now is that, in my > case, the FAT32 partition is readable by all but only writable by the > root and I don't know how to fix this. > put the following in the mount options for your fat32 drive... uid=1000,gid=1000 This makes it look like it is owned by you and you can read/write to it. From tobivollebregt at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 10:02:29 2005 From: tobivollebregt at gmail.com (Tobi Vollebregt) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:02:29 +0200 Subject: katapult howto? In-Reply-To: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> References: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510231202.30207.tobivollebregt@gmail.com> Apparently katapult didn't start automatically. You were on the right track by running katapult in a konsole: after you type katapult and press enter you should be able to use alt+space. It's more convenient however to start it via the run command dialog (alt+f2), so you don't have to keep a konsole open. have a nice day, Tobi On Sunday 23 October 2005 03:09, golfer wrote: > I'm not familiar with this, but am reading the quick start guide, > which says Alt-Space will activate Katapult. > > For me Alt-Space does nothing. Typing 'katapult' in a konsole causes > > scrolling messages, like this: > :~$ katapult > > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Synaptic Package Manager > Ignored duplicate item: Language Selector > Ignored duplicate item: Shared Folders > Ignored duplicate item: Synaptic Package Manager > Ignored duplicate item: Update Manager > Ignored duplicate item: Networking > > after a while the konsole stops and I have to hit Ctl-C to get back to > the prompt. > > I don't find any info with 'man katapult', on the wiki, or the > doc/katapult/README. What am I to do to use Katapult? > > TIA, From sclewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 23 12:53:32 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:53:32 -0400 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird In-Reply-To: References: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> Message-ID: <435B87CC.1070507@bmts.com> Martin J Hooper wrote: > put the following in the mount options for your fat32 drive... > > uid=1000,gid=1000 > > This makes it look like it is owned by you and you can read/write to it. Where is the file to put that in? Sorry, as I said I am new myself to Linux. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From sclewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 23 12:58:01 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 08:58:01 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! In-Reply-To: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <435B88D9.1080504@bmts.com> Daniel Lausevic wrote: > The entire thing is packaged as RPM's. The desktop configuration > packages are seperated and in a different directory. So I really hope > v2.0 packages get pushed into the repos soon. Same here. I was able to easily install v1 with its graphical install utility, but could never figure out v2 with all those RPM's. An update of v2 to the repository would be great. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From mckagan at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 13:17:33 2005 From: mckagan at gmail.com (duffmckagan) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:47:33 +0530 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <435B87CC.1070507@bmts.com> References: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> <435B87CC.1070507@bmts.com> Message-ID: <4bfde5d90510230617i3e7f05c6q20894dab00559565@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/05, Scott wrote: > > Martin J Hooper wrote: > > put the following in the mount options for your fat32 drive... > > > > uid=1000,gid=1000 > > > > This makes it look like it is owned by you and you can read/write to it. > Where is the file to put that in? Sorry, as I said I am new myself to > Linux. It can be found in /etc/fstab Thank you. -- > Your friend, > Scott > > http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin > > "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Take a look at http://copperskull.blogspot.com/ http://www.tekcities.com/copperskull/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Sun Oct 23 13:33:17 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:33:17 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! In-Reply-To: <435B88D9.1080504@bmts.com> References: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> <435B88D9.1080504@bmts.com> Message-ID: <1130074397.17198.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> I installed automatically with Synaptic when I finally followed the instructions 'on the box' - by changing Hoary to Breezy in the Repositories tab. It's great and full of features. I just wish right clicking for copy and paste would work between applications. Best wishes from a happy person, Derek On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 08:58 -0400, Scott wrote: > Daniel Lausevic wrote: > > The entire thing is packaged as RPM's. The desktop configuration > > packages are seperated and in a different directory. So I really hope > > v2.0 packages get pushed into the repos soon. > Same here. I was able to easily install v1 with its graphical install > utility, but could never figure out v2 with all those RPM's. An update > of v2 to the repository would be great. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin > > "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" > > From mckagan at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 13:39:35 2005 From: mckagan at gmail.com (duffmckagan) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:09:35 +0530 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! In-Reply-To: <1130074397.17198.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> <435B88D9.1080504@bmts.com> <1130074397.17198.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4bfde5d90510230639j6edd6a3p4b23422a1c79b1ec@mail.gmail.com> On 10/23/05, Derek Shields wrote: > > I installed automatically with Synaptic when I finally followed the > instructions 'on the box' - by changing Hoary to Breezy in the > Repositories tab. It's great and full of features. I just wish right > clicking for copy and paste would work between applications. Best wishes > from a happy person, Derek I have Kubuntu Hoary installed here. So can I still try the Breezy repositories? On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 08:58 -0400, Scott wrote: > > Daniel Lausevic wrote: > > > The entire thing is packaged as RPM's. The desktop configuration > > > packages are seperated and in a different directory. So I really hope > > > v2.0 packages get pushed into the repos soon. > > Same here. I was able to easily install v1 with its graphical install > > utility, but could never figure out v2 with all those RPM's. An update > > of v2 to the repository would be great. > > > > -- > Your friend, > > Scott > > > > http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin > > > > "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Take a look at http://copperskull.blogspot.com/ http://www.tekcities.com/copperskull/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jpatrickdavies at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 14:33:07 2005 From: jpatrickdavies at gmail.com (Jonathan Patrick Davies) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 16:33:07 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! In-Reply-To: <4bfde5d90510230639j6edd6a3p4b23422a1c79b1ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> <1130074397.17198.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4bfde5d90510230639j6edd6a3p4b23422a1c79b1ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510231633.46503.jpatrickdavies@gmail.com> On Sunday 23 October 2005 15:39, duffmckagan wrote: > I have Kubuntu Hoary installed here. > So can I still try the Breezy repositories? Probably not. -- Patrick Davies -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sclewin at bmts.com Sun Oct 23 15:50:48 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:50:48 -0400 Subject: Partition Structure/Printer/Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <4bfde5d90510230617i3e7f05c6q20894dab00559565@mail.gmail.com> References: <435A4B77.40602@ns.sympatico.ca> <435AA3D1.9070804@bmts.com> <435B87CC.1070507@bmts.com> <4bfde5d90510230617i3e7f05c6q20894dab00559565@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <435BB158.6070805@bmts.com> duffmckagan wrote: > > > On 10/23/05, *Scott* > wrote: > > Martin J Hooper wrote: > > put the following in the mount options for your fat32 drive... > > > > uid=1000,gid=1000 > > > > This makes it look like it is owned by you and you can > read/write to it. > Where is the file to put that in? Sorry, as I said I am new > myself to > Linux. > > > > It can be found in /etc/fstab > > > Thank you. Thank you, I now have both my ntfs and FAT32 partitions mounted on boot and I can use both from my normal user login. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net Sun Oct 23 16:51:02 2005 From: derek at shieldsfv.go-plus.net (Derek Shields) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:51:02 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! In-Reply-To: <4bfde5d90510230639j6edd6a3p4b23422a1c79b1ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de63d7d0510221603w1efe2f18ifa51b76411ce6c38@mail.gmail.com> <435B88D9.1080504@bmts.com> <1130074397.17198.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4bfde5d90510230639j6edd6a3p4b23422a1c79b1ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1130086262.21131.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> I can't see why not, but I'm no expert. All I did was the following: Open up Synaptic Package Manager 2. Change your repositories to look for Breezy * From URI: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Distribution: hoary Sections: main restricted To http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Distribution: breezy Sections: main restricted 3. Reload sources 4. Mark All Upgrades On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 19:09 +0530, duffmckagan wrote: > > > On 10/23/05, Derek Shields wrote: > I installed automatically with Synaptic when I finally > followed the > instructions 'on the box' - by changing Hoary to Breezy in the > Repositories tab. It's great and full of features. I just wish > right > clicking for copy and paste would work between applications. > Best wishes > from a happy person, Derek > > > > > I have Kubuntu Hoary installed here. > So can I still try the Breezy repositories? > > > > > > On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 08:58 -0400, Scott wrote: > > Daniel Lausevic wrote: > > > The entire thing is packaged as RPM's. The desktop > configuration > > > packages are seperated and in a different directory. So I > really hope > > > v2.0 packages get pushed into the repos soon. > > Same here. I was able to easily install v1 with its > graphical install > > utility, but could never figure out v2 with all those > RPM's. An update > > of v2 to the repository would be great. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Your friend, > > Scott > > > > http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin > > > > "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at > something" > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > Take a look at > http://copperskull.blogspot.com/ > http://www.tekcities.com/copperskull/ From jason at jeetkunedomaster.net Sun Oct 23 16:56:49 2005 From: jason at jeetkunedomaster.net (Jason Straight) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:56:49 -0400 Subject: 5.10 KDE Automount Annoyance In-Reply-To: <835a7820510221827s72378298x53af0c3e42d66414@mail.gmail.com> References: <200510221925.13822.jason@jeetkunedomaster.net> <835a7820510221827s72378298x53af0c3e42d66414@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510231256.49525.jason@jeetkunedomaster.net> On Saturday 22 October 2005 21:27, golfer wrote: > On 10/22/05, Jason Straight wrote: > > I've been messing with this for too long, this is annoying enough to make > > me give up and use windows (which I haven't done for years) as my primary > > OS. > > > > Anyway, KDE mounts my external storage automatically and there seems to > > be no way to get it to quit, additionally annoying is that it opens konq > > to media:/ for every partition, additionally annoying is that it does so > > even for extended partitions which it can't mount (for obvious reasons). > > > > I've gone into kcontrol and stopped the KDED Media Manager, but it still > > does it, this needs to be made configurable somehow, first to turn off > > automounting alltogether, second an option to let it mount but not open a > > window automatically. It's getting to be like using windows, only windows > > actually works when you do this, and you can turn it off. > > did you notice there are 3 KDED's in kcontrol? Still didn't work .. > maybe you have to logout / in. No, had to edit /usr/bin/startkde so ivman didn't start. -- | Ubuntu Linux | www.ubuntulinux.org | | Kubuntu | www.kubuntu.org From calcmandan at gmail.com Sun Oct 23 19:01:36 2005 From: calcmandan at gmail.com (Daniel L) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 15:01:36 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! Message-ID: <1130094096.4212.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> The OOo package in the repos aren't v2. It says v2 but it's the beta release. We're waiting on the true v2. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Typing 'katapult' in a konsole causes > scrolling messages, like this: > > :~$ katapult > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Konqueror > Ignored duplicate item: Synaptic Package Manager > Ignored duplicate item: Language Selector > Ignored duplicate item: Shared Folders > Ignored duplicate item: Synaptic Package Manager > Ignored duplicate item: Update Manager > Ignored duplicate item: Networking > > after a while the konsole stops and I have to hit Ctl-C to get back to > the prompt. > > I don't find any info with 'man katapult', on the wiki, or the > doc/katapult/README. What am I to do to use Katapult? > > TIA, > You *are* barking up the right tree. It is not started by default (or at least that has been my experience; you can set it up to start with KDE which is what I have done.), that is why alt-space didn't do anything. When you entered 'katapult' in a term you WERE starting it (thus all the messages). If you would have typed 'katapult &' it would have started it in the background and given you the term back (you could also hit alt-f2 and type 'katapult'). Best to just auto-start it at login. Have fun with it. Troy - -- Troy Williams GPG Key: 1024D/FACE63E3 2005-04-20 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDXA4Aloraa/rOY+MRApenAJ0exG9CdEr7k4Pt5BsEVRhlPRLmGwCggpXn 4wxhWt865mEt/VjmMugGJbA= =Ebu3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dan_axtell at yahoo.com Sun Oct 23 23:57:51 2005 From: dan_axtell at yahoo.com (Daniel Axtell) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 16:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 5.10 gcc nuttiness Message-ID: <20051023235751.28594.qmail@web33805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I decided to try Kubuntu 5.10 on my laptop, which is pretty Linux unfriendly. The installation went pretty smoothly, but when went to build a library from source, I noticed there's no gcc. So I sent into the package manager, picked gcc (which chose gcc 4.0.2), installed it, and when I did "./configure", I got this error: "error: C compiler cannot create executables". I previosly tried Ubuntu 5.10 on this same machine, and after it had supposedly installed gcc, it was no where to be found. Trying to install earlier versions (3.3, 3.4) were fruitless. I'm pretty amazed that gcc won't work out of the box; what's the point of open source if you don't have a compiler? Any suggestions before I try installing Gentoo on this machine? __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From efossvold at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 02:11:48 2005 From: efossvold at gmail.com (Erik Fossvold) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:11:48 -0700 Subject: Incorrect mount names for /media in breezy (kubuntu) Message-ID: I recently compiled a custom kernel using source from the breezy repositoy. However, when I insert my usb-stick or portable usb hardrive they now show up as /media/music, /media/misc etc.. And Konquerer these volumes (in the "Storage Media" section) to media:/sda1 and media:/sdb1 and so. Thus, no files shows up when I try to browse the folders. Before I switched kernel these drives would be mounted as i.e. /media/sda1. Is a config error with the kernel or something else? Erik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm pretty amazed that gcc > won't work out of the box; what's the point of open > source if you don't have a compiler? > > Any suggestions before I try installing Gentoo on this machine? > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > Try installing build-essential, it will add all the other items gcc will need -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From mckagan at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 03:16:54 2005 From: mckagan at gmail.com (duffmckagan) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:46:54 +0530 Subject: 5.10 gcc nuttiness In-Reply-To: <435C4C19.70306@claydoh.com> References: <20051023235751.28594.qmail@web33805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <435C4C19.70306@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4bfde5d90510232016q1b24b3ew7e20b1f7077741b8@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/05, Clay Weber wrote: > > Daniel Axtell wrote: > > I decided to try Kubuntu 5.10 on my laptop, which is > > pretty Linux unfriendly. The installation went pretty > > smoothly, but when went to build a library from > > source, I noticed there's no gcc. So I sent into the > > package manager, picked gcc (which chose gcc 4.0.2), > > installed it, and when I did "./configure", I got this > > error: > > "error: C compiler cannot create executables". > > > > I previosly tried Ubuntu 5.10 on this same machine, > > and after it had supposedly installed gcc, it was no > > where to be found. Trying to install earlier versions > > (3.3, 3.4) were fruitless. I'm pretty amazed that gcc > > won't work out of the box; what's the point of open > > source if you don't have a compiler? > > > > Any suggestions before I try installing Gentoo on this machine? > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > > Try installing build-essential, it will add all the other items gcc will > need Make sure you have added the Breezy repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get install build-essential -- > Clay Weber > http://claydoh.com > http://emacdogsports.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Take a look at http://copperskull.blogspot.com/ http://www.tekcities.com/copperskull/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is a config error with the kernel or something else? > > Erik > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- Take a look at http://copperskull.blogspot.com/ http://www.tekcities.com/copperskull/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcurley at eol.ca Mon Oct 24 03:50:55 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:50:55 -0400 Subject: How to add programs to the kde menu In-Reply-To: <200510182129.33713.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> References: <200510182129.33713.r.p.m.koendering@planet.nl> Message-ID: <200510232350.55995.mcurley@eol.ca> On Tuesday 18 October 2005 15:29, R.P.M.Koendering wrote: > What program do I need to start for adding software to the kde menu > > PCLos If you RMB on the K (start) button, an option to run the Menu Editor will appear. Highlight the folder you want to add the item to, select new item and fill in the forms that appear. Save and your items will be on the menu. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Mon Oct 24 04:15:04 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 00:15:04 -0400 Subject: Daft newbie can not get past login page In-Reply-To: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> References: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510240015.04715.mcurley@eol.ca> On Saturday 22 October 2005 05:53, zoe blackmore wrote: > Hi > > I am hoping some kind soul can give me some guidance to a linux > newbie/technodummy (please be gentle). > > I am using Ubuntu/Kubuntu 5.10 > I boot up ok to the login page, put the correct password in the > screen processess it for a few seconds and then returns to the > login page..on whatever option I choose kde/gnome/failsafe. What > should i do. > Sounds like your password is different now. You are aware that Cap letters are different from lowercase in Linux? Perhaps you used a Capital when you supplied your original password. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From rob.gendreau at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 04:25:59 2005 From: rob.gendreau at gmail.com (Rob Gendreau) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:25:59 -0700 Subject: Start up on Mac Message-ID: I installed Breezy on a PowerMac G4; worked great. Then I had to do some work on my start up hard drive's directory, and ended up cloning the system to a another internal drive. Now I can't boot into Linux. In essence, my start up drive has changed to another internal drive. What's the easiest way to rectify the problem? (I noted that now if I use the Mac's start up drive selector, and go back to the original start up drive and boot from it, I still can't access Linux.) TIA, Rob From zoeblackmore at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 05:31:00 2005 From: zoeblackmore at gmail.com (zoe blackmore) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:31:00 +0100 Subject: Daft newbie can not get past login page In-Reply-To: <200510240015.04715.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> <200510240015.04715.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <72f29ef50510232231i7650c420n@mail.gmail.com> My friend who originally installed ubuntu (with kde) on my system spent a day on my system yesterday...he is a very experienced debian user and hopefully he will give me a useful report I can pass on to people. He has been unable to resolve the problem. Luckily for my newbie-shame level it was not anything to do caps and number locks. The password was correct, we know this because because the password manager tells us when ever I provided a wrong password. Something was def wrong with my system..5.04 worked ok for a month, my upgrade to 5.10 went ok (though the were some language (en) error messages...but everything worked ok for about a week)...I have no idea what I did to break the system. I better not give any half information...more later Anyways I have a brand much bigger new Ubuntu/kubuntu partion to set up. Must rush to work as I am late. zoe > > > > Sounds like your password is different now. You are aware that Cap > letters are different from lowercase in Linux? Perhaps you used a > Capital when you supplied your original password. > > From forsberg at cendio.se Mon Oct 24 06:35:15 2005 From: forsberg at cendio.se (Erik Forsberg) Date: 24 Oct 2005 08:35:15 +0200 Subject: Kiosktool and KDEDIRS on Kubuntu? Message-ID: Hi! I usually use Kiosktool [1] to configure the desktop of my users. I then have a third party tool that sets the KDEDIRS environment variable to include the directory where kiosktool has placed its profile. This doesn't work with the KDE that ships with Kubuntu 5.10. KDE version is 3.4.3-0ubuntu5. Any ideas on why? Assigning profiles via Kiosktool's "assign profile" feature works, but I don't want to use that, it doesn't fit well with the rest of my desktop configuration system. Thanks, \EF [1] http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/ -- Erik Forsberg OpenSource-based Thin Client Technology Cendio AB Phone: +46-13-21 46 00 Web: http://www.thinlinc.com From richmond at mail.maclaunch.com Mon Oct 24 07:54:40 2005 From: richmond at mail.maclaunch.com (Mathewson) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 03:54:40 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu Emulation on Mac Message-ID: Having failed with Ubuntu 5.10 PPc on my Mac-Mini and Ubuntu 386 on Virtual PC I am in the last stages of trying Ubuntu 386 on Guest PC glacially slow - but that is probably a limitation of Guest PC, not Ubuntu. Next installment after lunch (or possibly supper at the rate this one is going!) sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __________________________________________________ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html _______________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --------------------------------------------------------------- From pawel at najemnik.net Mon Oct 24 11:04:33 2005 From: pawel at najemnik.net (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3?=) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:04:33 +0200 Subject: Daft newbie can not get past login page In-Reply-To: <72f29ef50510232231i7650c420n@mail.gmail.com> References: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> <200510240015.04715.mcurley@eol.ca> <72f29ef50510232231i7650c420n@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1130151873.7664.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Probably not enough free space on root partition (/). On pon, 2005-10-24 at 06:31 +0100, zoe blackmore wrote: > My friend who originally installed ubuntu (with kde) on my system > spent a day on my system yesterday...he is a very experienced debian > user and hopefully he will give me a useful report I can pass on to > people. He has been unable to resolve the problem. Luckily for my > newbie-shame level it was not anything to do caps and number locks. > The password was correct, we know this because because the password > manager tells us when ever I provided a wrong password. Something was > def wrong with my system..5.04 worked ok for a month, my upgrade to > 5.10 went ok (though the were some language (en) error messages...but > everything worked ok for about a week)...I have no idea what I did to > break the system. I better not give any half information...more later > > Anyways I have a brand much bigger new Ubuntu/kubuntu partion to set > up. Must rush to work as I am late. > > zoe > > > > > > > > Sounds like your password is different now. You are aware that Cap > > letters are different from lowercase in Linux? Perhaps you used a > > Capital when you supplied your original password. > > > > > From sclewin at bmts.com Mon Oct 24 11:41:03 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:41:03 -0400 Subject: Start up on Mac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435CC84F.8020204@bmts.com> Rob Gendreau wrote: > I installed Breezy on a PowerMac G4; worked great. > > Then I had to do some work on my start up hard drive's directory, and > ended up cloning the system to a another internal drive. Now I can't > boot into Linux. In essence, my start up drive has changed to another > internal drive. What's the easiest way to rectify the problem? (I > noted that now if I use the Mac's start up drive selector, and go back > to the original start up drive and boot from it, I still can't access > Linux.) Here is a possibility. There is a great Linux distribution called system rescue CD (www.sysresccd.org). It is a live CD with lots with utility programs on it including a few partitioning programs. I believe that you can change which partition it considered the boot up partition using those. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From delawen at gmail.com Sat Oct 22 10:27:24 2005 From: delawen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9lawen?=) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 12:27:24 +0200 Subject: Daft newbie can not get past login page In-Reply-To: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> References: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <99fb3b5b0510220327r5c5d50a2y@mail.gmail.com> Can you log in in the console (Alt+Ctrl+1)? 2005/10/22, zoe blackmore : > > Hi > > I am hoping some kind soul can give me some guidance to a linux > newbie/technodummy (please be gentle). > > I am using Ubuntu/Kubuntu 5.10 > I boot up ok to the login page, put the correct password in the screen > processess it for a few seconds and then returns to the login page..on > whatever option I choose kde/gnome/failsafe. What should i do. > > many thanks > zoe > -- > Linux for Human Beings ~ Ubuntu/Kubuntu > http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ > http://www.kubuntu.org/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Truth Beauty Freedom and above all things... Love _ (\ ( '> (_<_) -'= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From calcmandan at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 23 18:59:34 2005 From: calcmandan at sbcglobal.net (Daniel Lausevic) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 14:59:34 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice 2.0 official! Message-ID: <1130093974.4212.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> The OOo package in the repos aren't v2. It says v2 but it's the beta release. We're waiting on the true v2. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Donatas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQ1zL0PDtAb8AVdgrAQJG8QQAxOCYGQx2b2RRS+m5rqlAvwBRbiMUfUMT 6YaI6G6/8gkwLqZKUH26qdqo/JmmhJFpmfdPFZiqsN9KkdqdOjhNbV6RAXXHuJ8X bkrCkjDi5oBEyF3+nJl6P7emKOfCMdYszqGjueDh+AjypP4LMpKN5URPkdfLGILQ 7d0GfPxBiG0= =7/ZE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jriddell at ubuntu.com Mon Oct 24 12:52:31 2005 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:52:31 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Incorrect mount names for /media in breezy (kubuntu) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051024125231.GA11663@muse.19inch.net> On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 07:11:48PM -0700, Erik Fossvold wrote: > > I recently compiled a custom kernel using source from the breezy > repositoy. However, when I insert my usb-stick or portable usb > hardrive they now show up as /media/music, /media/misc etc.. And > Konquerer these volumes (in the "Storage Media" section) to > media:/sda1 and media:/sdb1 and so. Thus, no files shows up when I try > to browse the folders. Before I switched kernel these drives would be > mounted as i.e. /media/sda1. Is a config error with the kernel or > something else? Install the kdebase updates from breezy-updates. Jonathan Riddell From michel at ziobudda.net Mon Oct 24 13:18:25 2005 From: michel at ziobudda.net (Davide Michel Morelli) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:18:25 +0200 Subject: Upgrade 5.04 -> 5.10 : OpenOffice down grrrrr Message-ID: <1130159905.8161.29.camel@zblaptop> Hi. I have upgraded my notebook from Kubuntu 5.04 to Kubuntu 5.10 with substituion of "hoary" in "breezy" into apt/sources.list. Now, I have some problem: 1) OpenOffice.org: oowriter OpenOffice.org for Debian - see /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz Previous version found: OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 upgrading openoffice.org user configuration... /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory setup failed (code 0).. abort ---- Please read /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz for known problems ----- I have installaed OpenOffice with apt-get install openoffice, and I have libstdc++ package. I have found that /etc/ld.so.conf contained only /usr/X11R6/lib /lib32 /usr/lib32 /usr/X11R6/lib32 So I have added: /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib /usr/lib/openoffice/program/ /lib Run "ldconfig -v" but: ldd /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin linux-gate.so.1 => (0x00000000) libsb645li.so => not found libsvt645li.so => not found libvcl645li.so => not found libtl645li.so => not found libcomphelp3gcc3.so => not found libcppuhelpergcc3.so.3 => not found libcppu.so.3 => not found libvos3gcc3.so => not found libsvl645li.so => not found libsalhelpergcc3.so.3 => not found libutl645li.so => not found libsal.so.3 => not found libset645li.so => not found libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libX11.so.6 (0x55582000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libXext.so.6 (0x55649000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libSM.so.6 (0x55657000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libICE.so.6 (0x55660000) libdl.so.2 => /lib32/tls/libdl.so.2 (0x55677000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x5567a000) libm.so.6 => /lib32/tls/libm.so.6 (0x5568a000) libstlport_gcc.so => not found libstdc++.so.5 => not found libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x556ad000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/tls/libc.so.6 (0x556b8000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x55555000) but ls -la /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2005-10-23 13:32 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 829864 2005-09-16 13:22 /usr/lib/libstdc ++.so.5.0.7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2005-09-07 12:39 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.60 -> libstdc++.so.60.0.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 907408 2005-04-02 14:15 /usr/lib/libstdc ++.so.60.0.3 And: $ sudo ldconfig -v | grep std ldconfig: Path `/usr/X11R6/lib' given more than once ldconfig: Path `/lib' given more than once ldconfig: Path `/lib64' given more than once ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib' given more than once ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib64' given more than once ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgettextpo.so: No such file or directory libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7 libkorg_stdprinting.so.1 -> libkorg_stdprinting.so.1.0.0 libstdc++.so.60 -> libstdc++.so.60.0.3 2) Ati Driver. I have downloaded and reinstalled ati-driver. I have changed the xorg.con for the "ati" line (changed to fglrx) and: $ fglrxinfo display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1) $ fgl_glxgears X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Major opcode of failed request: 145 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent) Serial number of failed request: 32 Current serial number in output stream: 32 Tnx in advance for all. -- Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobudda.net http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 http://www.phpbook.it FAX: 0291390660 From richmond at mail.maclaunch.com Mon Oct 24 13:57:52 2005 From: richmond at mail.maclaunch.com (Mathewson) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:57:52 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu Emulation on Mac Message-ID: Well there's another "one in the eye for Microsoft"! Obviously Guest PC 1.6 supports 32 bit graphics because Ubuntu installed and booted with no problems except for the following caveats: 1. Install took on the sunny side of 5 hours! 2. Guest PC seemed to be able to shut-down properly afterwards so I had to do a Force-Quit. Have yet to try out sound . . . But as proof of concept it rocks! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __________________________________________________ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html _______________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --------------------------------------------------------------- From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 24 13:20:45 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:20:45 -0300 Subject: Incorrect mount names for /media in breezy (kubuntu) References: <4bfde5d90510232018x215f293cofc2932e40f932f46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: duffmckagan wrote: > On 10/24/05, Erik Fossvold wrote: >> >> I recently compiled a custom kernel using source from the breezy >> repositoy. However, when I insert my usb-stick or portable usb hardrive >> they now show up as /media/music, /media/misc etc.. > > Do you want that to be changed? > Simply edit your fstab. Mostly, you wouldn't want to put usb attached devices into /etc/fstab. That's why we have hal & dbus & pmount. It _should_ be automatic. > > And Konquerer these volumes (in the "Storage Media" section) to > media:/sda1 >> and media:/sdb1 and so. Thus, no files shows up when I try to browse the >> folders. Before I switched kernel these drives would be mounted as i.e. >> /media/sda1. Is a config error with the kernel or something else? I fixed it by installing kdebase from breezy-updates -- derek From gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr Mon Oct 24 14:44:04 2005 From: gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr (Gerard CARNAT) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:44:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Breezy freezing Message-ID: <29416903.1130165044536.JavaMail.www@wwinf1510> hi every one, strange thing: I recently tryed to install 5.10 on my desktop and surprizingly the install freezes everytime between "copying all files on disk" and "setting clock". And no way to get out, only rebooting the PC. Has some one ever meet such a problem? More info: I had 5.04 installed before and everything was OK an other: I get the same with 5.04 now more over: a classic debian starting from a netinstall, installs correctly to the end. thanks for your help From jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca Mon Oct 24 15:07:57 2005 From: jamon.camisso at utoronto.ca (Jamon Camisso) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:07:57 -0400 Subject: Breezy freezing In-Reply-To: <29416903.1130165044536.JavaMail.www@wwinf1510> References: <29416903.1130165044536.JavaMail.www@wwinf1510> Message-ID: Gerard CARNAT wrote: > hi every one, > > strange thing: I recently tryed to install 5.10 on my desktop and surprizingly the install freezes everytime between "copying all files on disk" and "setting clock". And no way to get out, only rebooting the PC. > > Has some one ever meet such a problem? > > More info: I had 5.04 installed before and everything was OK > an other: I get the same with 5.04 now > more over: a classic debian starting from a netinstall, installs correctly to the end. > > thanks for your help I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you install 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 24 15:07:39 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:07:39 -0300 Subject: KDM segfault via XDMCP Message-ID: For a couple of weeks now, I've been unable to connect to my Linux box from Windows XP via XDMCP. I usually use tightvnc to connect to the Linux box (vncviewer othello:0). It connects, shows the standard X moire screen, then immediately drops the connection and I see this in syslog: Unknown session exit code 0 (sig 11) from manager process I installed X in Cygwin, and tried its "startxdmcp" script, which gets exactly the same error - but continually tries to restart itself, so it's even worse. I can, however still use "vncviewer othello:1" to connect to a running KDE session via krfb (which has its own set of annoying problems). This morning, my colleague (who I just convinced to install kubuntu) had exactly the same problem on a fresh kubuntu system, so it's not just me. The kdmrc and Xaccess files still have the correct settings to permit XDMCP connections, and I can't see anything that has been modified in the time period that would cause this. Besides the one line in syslog, I can't find anything relevant in the log files. Any ideas? -- derek From gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr Mon Oct 24 15:50:10 2005 From: gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr (Gerard CARNAT) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Breezy freezing Message-ID: <9267108.1130169010427.JavaMail.www@wwinf1507> Well don't know, I'll try. 5.04 workstation refuses to install too. May be 5.04 as a server. I'll let you know. ======================================== > Message du 24/10/05 17:13 > De : "Jamon Camisso" > A : gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Copie à : > Objet : Re: Breezy freezing > > I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default > 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on > my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you install > 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From mckagan at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 16:38:23 2005 From: mckagan at gmail.com (duffmckagan) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:08:23 +0530 Subject: Breezy freezing In-Reply-To: <9267108.1130169010427.JavaMail.www@wwinf1507> References: <9267108.1130169010427.JavaMail.www@wwinf1507> Message-ID: <4bfde5d90510240938i40fe39e5w18054e462bfb017e@mail.gmail.com> [OT] Breezy Freezes because of the Cool Breeze it gets around itself. =)) On 10/24/05, Gerard CARNAT wrote: > > Well don't know, I'll try. > 5.04 workstation refuses to install too. May be 5.04 as a server. > I'll let you know. > ======================================== > > > > Message du 24/10/05 17:13 > > De : "Jamon Camisso" > > A : gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" < > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: Breezy freezing > > > > I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default > > 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on > > my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you install > > 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Take a look at http://copperskull.blogspot.com/ http://www.tekcities.com/copperskull/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr Mon Oct 24 17:17:26 2005 From: gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr (Gerard CARNAT) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:17:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Breezy freezing Message-ID: <1812071.1130174246493.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> Well, Kubuntu as a server installed correctly. thanks for that. What a strange world, any idea of what the problem is? Now, how do I go back to a standard Kubuntu? I did "apt-get install kdesktop" and it went well, but refuses to lauch xserver with "startx" or startkde" ============================================ > Message du 24/10/05 17:13 > De : "Jamon Camisso" > A : gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Copie à : > Objet : Re: Breezy freezing > > > I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default > 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on > my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you install > 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From jjesse at iserv.net Mon Oct 24 17:31:58 2005 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:31:58 -0400 Subject: Breezy freezing In-Reply-To: <1812071.1130174246493.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> References: <1812071.1130174246493.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> Message-ID: <200510241331.58972.jjesse@iserv.net> Did you install kdesktop or kubuntu-desktop? For kubuntu it should be kubuntu-desktop, just like if I would like to install Ubuntu (gnome) i would install ubuntu-desktop via apt-get On Monday 24 October 2005 13:17, Gerard CARNAT wrote: > Well, Kubuntu as a server installed correctly. thanks for that. What a > strange world, any idea of what the problem is? > > Now, how do I go back to a standard Kubuntu? > I did "apt-get install kdesktop" and it went well, but refuses to lauch > xserver with "startx" or startkde" > > ============================================ > > > Message du 24/10/05 17:13 > > De : "Jamon Camisso" > > A : gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: Breezy freezing > > > > I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default > > 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on > > my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you install > > 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From efossvold at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 17:37:44 2005 From: efossvold at gmail.com (Erik Fossvold) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:37:44 -0700 Subject: Incorrect mount names for /media in breezy (kubuntu) Message-ID: I updated the kde-base before I recompiled the kernel, and it was working then. I have not edited /etc/fstab either. So that's why I wonder if it has something to do with the kernel. On 10/24/05, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com < kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote: > > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Upgrade 5.04 -> 5.10 : OpenOffice down grrrrr > (Davide Michel Morelli) > 2. Ubuntu Emulation on Mac (Mathewson) > 3. Re: Incorrect mount names for /media in breezy (kubuntu) > (Derek Broughton) > 4. Breezy freezing (Gerard CARNAT) > 5. Re: Breezy freezing (Jamon Camisso) > 6. KDM segfault via XDMCP (Derek Broughton) > 7. Re: Breezy freezing (Gerard CARNAT) > 8. Re: Breezy freezing (duffmckagan) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Davide Michel Morelli > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:18:25 +0200 > Subject: Upgrade 5.04 -> 5.10 : OpenOffice down grrrrr > Hi. I have upgraded my notebook from Kubuntu 5.04 to Kubuntu 5.10 with > substituion of "hoary" in "breezy" into apt/sources.list. > > Now, I have some problem: > > 1) OpenOffice.org: oowriter > OpenOffice.org for Debian - > see /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz > Previous version found: OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 > upgrading openoffice.org user configuration... > /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin: error while loading shared > libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file > or directory > setup failed (code 0).. abort > ---- Please read /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz for > known problems ----- > > I have installaed OpenOffice with apt-get install openoffice, and I have > libstdc++ package. I have found that /etc/ld.so.conf contained only > > /usr/X11R6/lib > /lib32 > /usr/lib32 > /usr/X11R6/lib32 > > So I have added: > > /usr/X11R6/lib > /usr/lib > /usr/lib/openoffice/program/ > /lib > > Run "ldconfig -v" but: > > ldd /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup.bin > linux-gate.so.1 => (0x00000000) > libsb645li.so => not found > libsvt645li.so => not found > libvcl645li.so => not found > libtl645li.so => not found > libcomphelp3gcc3.so => not found > libcppuhelpergcc3.so.3 => not found > libcppu.so.3 => not found > libvos3gcc3.so => not found > libsvl645li.so => not found > libsalhelpergcc3.so.3 => not found > libutl645li.so => not found > libsal.so.3 => not found > libset645li.so => not found > libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libX11.so.6 (0x55582000) > libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libXext.so.6 (0x55649000) > libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libSM.so.6 (0x55657000) > libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib32/libICE.so.6 (0x55660000) > libdl.so.2 => /lib32/tls/libdl.so.2 (0x55677000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x5567a000) > libm.so.6 => /lib32/tls/libm.so.6 (0x5568a000) > libstlport_gcc.so => not found > libstdc++.so.5 => not found > libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x556ad000) > libc.so.6 => /lib32/tls/libc.so.6 (0x556b8000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x55555000) > > but ls -la /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2005-10-23 13:32 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 > -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 829864 2005-09-16 13:22 /usr/lib/libstdc > ++.so.5.0.7 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2005-09-07 12:39 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.60 > -> libstdc++.so.60.0.3 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 907408 2005-04-02 14:15 /usr/lib/libstdc > ++.so.60.0.3 > > And: > > $ sudo ldconfig -v | grep std > ldconfig: Path `/usr/X11R6/lib' given more than once > ldconfig: Path `/lib' given more than once > ldconfig: Path `/lib64' given more than once > ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib' given more than once > ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib64' given more than once > ldconfig: Cannot stat /usr/lib/libgettextpo.so: No such file or > directory > libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7 > libkorg_stdprinting.so.1 -> libkorg_stdprinting.so.1.0.0 > libstdc++.so.60 -> libstdc++.so.60.0.3 > > 2) Ati Driver. > > I have downloaded and reinstalled ati-driver. I have changed the > xorg.con for the "ati" line (changed to fglrx) and: > > $ fglrxinfo > display: :0.0 screen: 0 > OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org > OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect > OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1) > > $ fgl_glxgears > X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) > Major opcode of failed request: 145 (GLX) > Minor opcode of failed request: 5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent) > Serial number of failed request: 32 > Current serial number in output stream: 32 > > > Tnx in advance for all. > > -- > Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobudda.net > http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 > http://www.phpbook.it FAX: 0291390660 > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Mathewson" > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:57:52 -0400 > Subject: Ubuntu Emulation on Mac > Well there's another "one in the eye for Microsoft"! > > Obviously Guest PC 1.6 supports 32 bit graphics because > Ubuntu installed and booted with no problems except for the > following caveats: > > 1. Install took on the sunny side of 5 hours! > > 2. Guest PC seemed to be able to shut-down properly > afterwards so I had to do a Force-Quit. > > Have yet to try out sound . . . > > But as proof of concept it rocks! > > sincerely, Richmond Mathewson > __________________________________________________ > See Mathewson's software at: > > http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html > _______________________________________ > --------------------------------------------------------------- > The Think Different Store > http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ > For All Your Mac Gear > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Derek Broughton > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:20:45 -0300 > Subject: Re: Incorrect mount names for /media in breezy (kubuntu) > duffmckagan wrote: > > > On 10/24/05, Erik Fossvold wrote: > >> > >> I recently compiled a custom kernel using source from the breezy > >> repositoy. However, when I insert my usb-stick or portable usb hardrive > >> they now show up as /media/music, /media/misc etc.. > > > > Do you want that to be changed? > > Simply edit your fstab. > > Mostly, you wouldn't want to put usb attached devices into /etc/fstab. > That's why we have hal & dbus & pmount. It _should_ be automatic. > > > > And Konquerer these volumes (in the "Storage Media" section) to > > media:/sda1 > >> and media:/sdb1 and so. Thus, no files shows up when I try to browse > the > >> folders. Before I switched kernel these drives would be mounted as i.e. > >> /media/sda1. Is a config error with the kernel or something else? > > I fixed it by installing kdebase from breezy-updates > -- > derek > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gerard CARNAT > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:44:04 +0200 (CEST) > Subject: Breezy freezing > hi every one, > > strange thing: I recently tryed to install 5.10 on my desktop and > surprizingly the install freezes everytime between "copying all files on > disk" and "setting clock". And no way to get out, only rebooting the PC. > > Has some one ever meet such a problem? > > More info: I had 5.04 installed before and everything was OK > an other: I get the same with 5.04 now > more over: a classic debian starting from a netinstall, installs correctly > to the end. > > thanks for your help > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jamon Camisso > To: gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, Kubuntu Help and User Discussions < > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 11:07:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: Breezy freezing > Gerard CARNAT wrote: > > hi every one, > > > > strange thing: I recently tryed to install 5.10 on my desktop and > surprizingly the install freezes everytime between "copying all files on > disk" and "setting clock". And no way to get out, only rebooting the PC. > > > > Has some one ever meet such a problem? > > > > More info: I had 5.04 installed before and everything was OK > > an other: I get the same with 5.04 now > > more over: a classic debian starting from a netinstall, installs > correctly to the end. > > > > thanks for your help > > I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default > 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on > my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you install > 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Derek Broughton > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:07:39 -0300 > Subject: KDM segfault via XDMCP > For a couple of weeks now, I've been unable to connect to my Linux box > from > Windows XP via XDMCP. > > I usually use tightvnc to connect to the Linux box (vncviewer othello:0). > It connects, shows the standard X moire screen, then immediately drops the > connection and I see this in syslog: > Unknown session exit code 0 (sig 11) from manager process > > I installed X in Cygwin, and tried its "startxdmcp" script, which gets > exactly the same error - but continually tries to restart itself, so it's > even worse. > > I can, however still use "vncviewer othello:1" to connect to a running KDE > session via krfb (which has its own set of annoying problems). > > This morning, my colleague (who I just convinced to install kubuntu) had > exactly the same problem on a fresh kubuntu system, so it's not just me. > > The kdmrc and Xaccess files still have the correct settings to permit > XDMCP > connections, and I can't see anything that has been modified in the time > period that would cause this. > > Besides the one line in syslog, I can't find anything relevant in the log > files. > > Any ideas? > -- > derek > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Gerard CARNAT > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:50:10 +0200 (CEST) > Subject: Re: Breezy freezing > Well don't know, I'll try. > 5.04 workstation refuses to install too. May be 5.04 as a server. > I'll let you know. > ======================================== > > > > Message du 24/10/05 17:13 > > De : "Jamon Camisso" > > A : gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" < > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: Breezy freezing > > > > I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default > > 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on > > my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you install > > 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: duffmckagan > To: gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, Kubuntu Help and User Discussions < > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:08:23 +0530 > Subject: Re: Breezy freezing > [OT] > > Breezy Freezes because of the Cool Breeze it gets around itself. =)) > > On 10/24/05, Gerard CARNAT wrote: > > > > Well don't know, I'll try. > > 5.04 workstation refuses to install too. May be 5.04 as a server. > > I'll let you know. > > ======================================== > > > > > > > Message du 24/10/05 17:13 > > > De : "Jamon Camisso" > > > A : gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > > > > > Copie à : > > > Objet : Re: Breezy freezing > > > > > > I've had some strange install issues too. It seems the default > > > 2.6.12-9-386 kernel that installs by default can't detect /dev/hda1 on > > > my disc. Upgrading from a 5.04 install works just fine. Can you > > install > > > 5.04 as a server and then upgrade? > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Take a look at > http://copperskull.blogspot.com/ > http://www.tekcities.com/copperskull/ > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can edit /etc/kderc and /etc/kde-user-profile to change which directories KDE will look in. Jonathan From t.j.vollebregt at student.tudelft.nl Mon Oct 24 17:35:09 2005 From: t.j.vollebregt at student.tudelft.nl (Tobi Vollebregt) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:35:09 +0200 Subject: Breezy freezing In-Reply-To: <1812071.1130174246493.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> References: <1812071.1130174246493.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> Message-ID: <200510241935.09968.t.j.vollebregt@student.tudelft.nl> > Now, how do I go back to a standard Kubuntu? > I did "apt-get install kdesktop" and it went well, but refuses to lauch > xserver with "startx" or startkde" Kubuntu: "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" Ubuntu: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" etc. cheers Tobi From joantur at cancullet.org Mon Oct 24 17:43:42 2005 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:43:42 +0200 Subject: katapult howto? In-Reply-To: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> References: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510241943.44133.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Diumenge, 23 de Octubre de 2005 03:09, en golfer va escriure: | I don't find any info with 'man katapult', on the wiki, or the | doc/katapult/README.  What am I to do to use Katapult? Same here... I still don't know what it does/how to use it... maybe we can get some examples? 8-? -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Actually, I think it is working but every time X starts or > restarts, numlock is turned off. [alt]+f2 -> "kcontrol" -> Peripherals -> Keyboard Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - You can have my Unix system when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. - Cal Keegan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Oct 24 18:22:59 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:22:59 -0400 Subject: Documents directory problem Message-ID: <435D2683.9030207@verizon.net> I am running Hoary. This problem occurred for a few weeks with Warty and then went away. Whenever I try to access the Documents and Desktop directories either in Konqueror or in a file open/save dialog, it take close to 5 minutes to get a listing of these directories. Other directories display OK. Same problem with ~ $ ls Documents/ in a terminal (konsole). Any ideas of the cause? solution? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Luckily, the older versions were still there to fall back on. Which leads me to this post. I lost windoze operability and it gave me an excuse to use that drive as a test bed for a replacement distro. I posted a thread on justlinux.comfor advice on a distribution. I listed Ubuntu and Debian as lead possibilities. Since I had read many posts throughout the board, I've heard more and more about Ubuntu. In my thread, I stated the requirement needed for a distro I'd like to see. Here are the guidelines: - Upgrades run smoothly. - No RPMs please. - Good driver support for video/audio. - NTFS/MP3/DVD implemented automatically. - Good apt-get repositories (and a good front end). I tried debian but it proved to be too much work just to make the kde desktop visually pleasing. Then all the other issues like video drivers and such. It all proved too much for me. I had the original ubuntu disc that had been sent to me when it first came out. I installed it next. A good part of the evening was spent downloading updates to hoary. It was beautiful but never liked gnome. After following instructions in switching to KDE, I just bit the bullet and installed a fresh Hoary disc for Kubuntu. in short, that test drive nearly became my main drive. All I can say is it, by far, beats out Fedora by a longshot. Everything worked as it should. So last night I took the plunge, after a few hours of grueling backups, I secured over 15 gigs of data on CD and did a complete replacement on my main drive. Then an hour or two was spent restoring everything from backup. All I can say is I'm a very happy man. Just a few loose strings have to be tied before it is a complete desktop, but overall, it was the smoothest migration I've ever done. Next project: Migrate my best friend to Kubuntu. -- D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <8de63d7d0510241130n70e02d9at67b4fba964668997@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de63d7d0510241130n70e02d9at67b4fba964668997@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200510241408.10338.troywill1@gmail.com> On Monday October 24 2005 1:30 pm, Daniel Lausevic wrote: > So last night I took the plunge, after a few hours of grueling backups, I > secured over 15 gigs of data on CD and did a complete replacement on my > main drive.  Then an hour or two was spent restoring everything from > backup.  All I can say is I'm a very happy man.  Just a few loose strings > have to be tied before it is a complete desktop, but overall, it was the > smoothest migration I've ever done. > > Next project: Migrate my best friend to Kubuntu. Welcome and enjoy! Troy -- Troy Williams GPG Key: 1024D/FACE63E3 2005-04-20 Troy Williams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zoeblackmore at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 19:09:28 2005 From: zoeblackmore at gmail.com (zoe blackmore) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:09:28 +0100 Subject: Daft newbie can not get past login page In-Reply-To: <99fb3b5b0510220327r5c5d50a2y@mail.gmail.com> References: <72f29ef50510220253r1f03576bk@mail.gmail.com> <99fb3b5b0510220327r5c5d50a2y@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <72f29ef50510241209t417f2fb3q@mail.gmail.com> login into console ok... though I am not very confident there. my root partition was indeed 100% full which was one of the ways I may have broke my system. My linux experienced friend corrected it by carefully moving and relinking my var files, but despite that repair the was a deeper problem in that I had loads of mime file errors ...the cause of which we have no idea... I cant remember anything I did the night before to cause the system to go bad the next day. The system worked perfectly after my distribution upgrade so I have the feeling it must be something I did...maybe something from the multiverse I should not have downloaded??? I must admit that my friend says I am exceedingly good at breaking systems...I've broken XP twice this year, 2000 once, and previously he has tried to put various linuxs and I even managed to break my much loved beos, hey at work when I go into the office they sprawl themselves over their computers in a protective guardianship way while telling me to keep clear ;) zoe On 22/10/05, Délawen wrote: > Can you log in in the console (Alt+Ctrl+1)? > > 2005/10/22, zoe blackmore : > > > > Hi > > > > I am hoping some kind soul can give me some guidance to a linux > > newbie/technodummy (please be gentle). > > > > I am using Ubuntu/Kubuntu 5.10 > > I boot up ok to the login page, put the correct password in the screen > > processess it for a few seconds and then returns to the login page..on > > whatever option I choose kde/gnome/failsafe. What should i do. > > > > many thanks > > zoe > > -- > > Linux for Human Beings ~ Ubuntu/Kubuntu > > http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ > > http://www.kubuntu.org/ > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Truth Beauty Freedom and above all things... Love > _ > (\ ( '> > (_<_) > -'= > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- Linux for Human Beings ~ Ubuntu/Kubuntu http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ http://www.kubuntu.org/ From dan_axtell at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:50:02 2005 From: dan_axtell at yahoo.com (Daniel Axtell) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 5.10 gcc nuttiness In-Reply-To: <4bfde5d90510232016q1b24b3ew7e20b1f7077741b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20051024205002.67470.qmail@web33815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks. Worked like a charm __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From jjesse at iserv.net Tue Oct 25 02:50:45 2005 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:50:45 -0400 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's Message-ID: It has been awhile since i have had the storage space and the desire to rip CDs to MP3 but as I have recently bought my wife an Ipod it is time to do so for her. Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on Windows box couple of years ago. From albert_cardarelli at yahoo.ca Tue Oct 25 04:41:06 2005 From: albert_cardarelli at yahoo.ca (Albert Cardarelli) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Firstclass client In-Reply-To: <200510070915.57856.kmksmulley@onlinehome.de> Message-ID: <20051025044106.43593.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for your reply Kevin... I'm still a newbie at this and I looked under "Utilities" in the start menu and I did not see the program you called, "Alien". I have the new version 8 of First Class, but it's curently tweaked for red-hat and it works in red-hat, but red-hat gave me a lot of grief when trying to install various DVD players and Netscape 7.2 (with flash player for that matter) Kubuntu's Kaffeine progam runs fine, but I am wondering if Alien will convert that red-hat rpm of first class and more importantly, where the heck is Alien? thanks, Albert. gahttp://www2.it.rit.edu/~itweb/firstclass/linux.htmle --- KMks wrote: > Hi Albert, > > On Friday 07 October 2005 05:59, Albert Cardarelli > wrote: > > > PS I can't seem to get First Class Client for > Linux to run in Kubuntu... > > Have you tried using Wine (or CrossOver) I have and > it works fine so far, I've > also converted from a SuSE .rpm to .deb with alien > and it also works, on > both a Kubuntu 5.04 and 5.10. > > Regards > -- > Kevin Mulley > > kmksmulley at onlinehome.de > > "Computers are like air conditioners, they don't > work if you open windows" > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From albert_cardarelli at yahoo.ca Tue Oct 25 04:45:18 2005 From: albert_cardarelli at yahoo.ca (Albert Cardarelli) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 00:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: newbie In-Reply-To: <1128588735.951.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20051025044518.68454.qmail@web50113.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for that Tony... I needed a good laugh today... I can relate... Albert. --- Derek Shields wrote: > Gawd, Tony - if only! I've been looking for a Janet > and John set of > instructions since I started using Linux about three > months ago. > However, I haven't found any instructions that are > even halfway > comprehensible yet. It's a bit like Microsoft - the > folk who write the > programs seem unable to write for ordinary users and > it's very > frustrating. > > I'm getting to know what I'm doing gradually by > reading articles in TUX > and the odd note in this conference that makes > sense. I bought a for > Dummies book to see if that helps - but no. It's not > as if I'm thick, > I've got two degrees and have been a lecturer for > years - not in > computer science. When I can do Linux properly, I > promise to write a > series of step-by step guides, but I reckon it'll > take me another year > before I feel half way confident. Is there anyone > out there who knows > Linux and can 'teach' it? Best wishes, Derek > > On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 19:16 -0700, tony m wrote: > > I am a NEW, and cant emphasize that enought NEW > Kubuntu User. I have > > been a Windows person my whole life, know Macs a > bit but no clue on > > Linux. I need articles that will literally walk me > step by step on how > > to install, config, and get aquainted with Linux. > I have installed > > Kubuntu 5.0.4 but can not even get pass the > command line :( I > > installed Server Edition/package. > > > > thank you > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! for Good > > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina > relief effort. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca From forsberg at cendio.se Tue Oct 25 05:29:32 2005 From: forsberg at cendio.se (Erik Forsberg) Date: 25 Oct 2005 07:29:32 +0200 Subject: Kiosktool and KDEDIRS on Kubuntu? References: <20051024173849.GE11663@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: Jonathan Riddell writes: > > Assigning profiles via Kiosktool's "assign profile" feature works, but > > I don't want to use that, it doesn't fit well with the rest of my > > desktop configuration system. > > kiosktool may not be able to save since it tries to ssh in as root to > copy the files. You can edit /etc/kderc and /etc/kde-user-profile to > change which directories KDE will look in. I don't think this is the case - I run kiosktool as root on the actual machine, and the relevant files are written to /etc/kde-profiles/. \EF -- Erik Forsberg OpenSource-based Thin Client Technology Cendio AB Phone: +46-13-21 46 00 Web: http://www.thinlinc.com From lionelv at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 06:25:22 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:25:22 +1000 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jonathan Jesse wrote: > It has been awhile since i have had the storage space and the desire to rip > CDs to MP3 but as I have recently bought my wife an Ipod it is time to do so > for her. > > Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on > Windows box couple of years ago. This is a linux newsgroup and as such I don't know what windows has to do with it? I have used grip in the past, it is good but I was ripping for .ogg, you will need to install a plugin to handle mp3's. Lionel. From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Tue Oct 25 06:42:55 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:42:55 +1300 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200510251942.55602.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> About Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:25 Lionel wibbled about Re: Ripping CD's to MP3's : > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > It has been awhile since i have had the storage space and the desire to > > rip CDs to MP3 but as I have recently bought my wife an Ipod it is time > > to do so for her. > > > > Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on > > Windows box couple of years ago. > > This is a linux newsgroup and as such I don't know what windows has to > do with it? There really was no need for that comment. The OP might have been a little windows did it better but why rise to the bait. > > I have used grip in the past, it is good but I was ripping for .ogg, you > will need to install a plugin to handle mp3's. > > Lionel. Possibly the best easiest in kubuntu is kaudiocreator with lame installed. -- *~~~~~~DakaR http://linux.kwister.com Registered Linux #215413 From lionelv at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 06:54:30 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:54:30 +1000 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: <200510251942.55602.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> References: <200510251942.55602.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: David A' Rebel wrote: > About Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:25 Lionel wibbled about Re: Ripping CD's to MP3's : > >>Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> >>>It has been awhile since i have had the storage space and the desire to >>>rip CDs to MP3 but as I have recently bought my wife an Ipod it is time >>>to do so for her. >>> >>>Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on >>>Windows box couple of years ago. >> >>This is a linux newsgroup and as such I don't know what windows has to >>do with it? > > > There really was no need for that comment. The OP might have been a little > windows did it better but why rise to the bait. And the OP posted from: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) ;). I still helped them in case they are genuine, I wasn't having a go, just pointing out that some information was irrelevant. From dgvirtual at akl.lt Tue Oct 25 08:51:43 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:51:43 +0300 Subject: katapult howto? In-Reply-To: <200510241943.44133.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> <200510241943.44133.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <435DF21F.9090702@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Joan Tur rašė: > Es Diumenge, 23 de Octubre de 2005 03:09, en golfer va escriure: > | I don't find any info with 'man katapult', on the wiki, or the > | doc/katapult/README. What am I to do to use Katapult? > Same here... I still don't know what it does/how to use it... maybe we can get > some examples? 8-? first of all, launch it, so it runs in the background: Alt+F2 and type in katapult press enter. Then type alt+Space bar you will see Katapult appearing in the middle of a window. then start typing any program name, e.g., Konqueror after you have typed konq you will see Konqueror icon in the katapult window and the full name of the program being guessed. Once you see the right program there, just push enter, whether you have typed the full name or not. The program will get launced! That is all the manual you can have! Donatas Glodenis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQ13yH/DtAb8AVdgrAQIshAP/Xy3ZRn+Lj+Z6xGXu7umVq6UV0n9DMliJ 2afJ/ztBNsi1db/rxT7t3yOe8NOlG1DWIVWfaOSARSDZnXyu7cm2hRjRCMFeG3GS IJUyUKnCXqOlS24/z2z/TYGcfpCu1v8Ou239KlGR1VAfrL11adTcM2WN6T5QrEvD Suol/jSbB+Y= =BTuD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From richmond at mail.maclaunch.com Tue Oct 25 11:01:15 2005 From: richmond at mail.maclaunch.com (Mathewson) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:01:15 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu Emulation on Mac Message-ID: Oh, Poo! Sound does not work with Ubuntu 5.10 inside Guest PC 1.6 The other thing that is interesting is that it impossible to change the resolution from 640 x 480; which means that Guest PC is really only useful for an impressionistic, pocket-handkerchief view of Ubuntu just at the moment. Sincerely, Richmond Mathewson __________________________________________________ See Mathewson's software at: http://members.maclaunch.com/richmond/default.html _______________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------- The Think Different Store http://www.thinkdifferentstore.com/ For All Your Mac Gear --------------------------------------------------------------- From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 25 12:13:59 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:13:59 -0400 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: References: <200510251942.55602.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <435E2187.3060009@verizon.net> Lionel wrote: > David A' Rebel wrote: > >> About Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:25 Lionel wibbled about Re: Ripping CD's to >> MP3's : >> >>> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >>> >>>> It has been awhile since i have had the storage space and the >>>> desire to >>>> rip CDs to MP3 but as I have recently bought my wife an Ipod it is >>>> time >>>> to do so for her. >>>> >>>> Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on >>>> Windows box couple of years ago. >>> Try amaroK. Not only rips (which I have used), but also has an interface for uploading to the iPod (which I haven't tried). I think it comes with the default kubuntu-desktop installation. Depending on your needs and preferences, it is either an excellent "one stop" solution for all of your media management needs, or overkill. >>>> >>> >>> This is a linux newsgroup and as such I don't know what windows has to >>> do with it? >> >> >> >> There really was no need for that comment. The OP might have been a >> little windows did it better but why rise to the bait. > > > And the OP posted from: > > Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > > ;). I still helped them in case they are genuine, I wasn't having a > go, just pointing out that some information was irrelevant. Big deal. 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Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on > >>>Windows box couple of years ago. > >> > >>This is a linux newsgroup and as such I don't know what windows has to > >>do with it? > > > > There really was no need for that comment. The OP might have been a > > little windows did it better but why rise to the bait. > > And the OP posted from: > > Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > > ;). I still helped them in case they are genuine, I wasn't having a go, > just pointing out that some information was irrelevant. Before I get further slaughtered in the mailing list. Yes I still use outlook as a mail client. But I was trying to state that the last time I ripped CD's I was using Windows and used that program. I had no idea what program to use in Kubuntu From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 25 13:24:25 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 09:24:25 -0400 Subject: File dialogs Message-ID: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> One thing I really miss in the current KDE and Gnome file dialogs is the lack of a text entry box where you can just type the path instead of having to navigate up and down the one branch to another of the directory tree. Is there a way to restore this? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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I use amaroK to listen/manage my music (amaroK is a fantastic application, a real gift, imho), but have not used it to rip nor have I tried the built-in iPod integration it offers (I have an iPod, I just manage it with my iBook (opps, this is a non-free o/s with a non-free email client...forget I mentioned it)). > > >>> > > >>>Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on > > >>>Windows box couple of years ago. > > >> > > >>This is a linux newsgroup and as such I don't know what windows has to > > >>do with it? > > > > > > There really was no need for that comment. The OP might have been a > > > little windows did it better but why rise to the bait. > > > > And the OP posted from: > > > > Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > > > > ;). I still helped them in case they are genuine, I wasn't having a go, > > just pointing out that some information was irrelevant. > > Before I get further slaughtered in the mailing list. Yes I still use > outlook as a mail client. But I was trying to state that the last time I > ripped CD's I was using Windows and used that program. I had no idea what > program to use in Kubuntu People need to lighten up about the intentions of posters based on their email client or whatever else. FWIW, Jonathan happens to be a very active member of the Ubuntu Documentation Team focusing on Kubuntu...his intentions are very good. -- Troy Williams GPG Key: 1024D/FACE63E3 2005-04-20 Troy Williams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ouch.doh at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 15:35:10 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:35:10 -0300 Subject: File dialogs [ in kde too? ] In-Reply-To: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510251235.10840@morrigan> Hi, I don't have an answer but another question ... On Tuesday 25 October 2005 10:24, Art Alexion wrote: Art Alexion escribió: > One thing I really miss in the current KDE and Gnome file dialogs is the > lack of a text entry box where you can just type the path instead of > having to navigate up and down the one branch to another of the > directory tree. > I 've been downloading Breezy packages ( apt-get -d ... ) for the last few days now ( such a slow connection I have :-( ) Is this true? If there's something that keeps me away from gnome is the crippled file browser. Can anyone confirm this? Does Breezy Kubuntu cripples the kde filechooser, too? That alone could make me cancel the download and restore my hoary sources.list. > Is there a way to restore this? Please? :'( Regards fede From gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr Tue Oct 25 15:04:15 2005 From: gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr (Gerard CARNAT) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:04:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: ATI drivers and kernel-source-2.6.12 Message-ID: <7938940.1130252655448.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> Hello everyone, I am trying to install ATI drivers for an X300 card on Breezy, and apparently all I have found on forums and lists do not work. Does someone did it successfully and how? Where can I find "kernel-source-2.6.12? thanks for your help. Gérard From sebas at kde.nl Tue Oct 25 15:06:28 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?utf-8?q?K=C3=BCgler?=) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:06:28 +0200 Subject: Numlock In-Reply-To: <435E3CFF.7050507@verizon.net> References: <435D22F1.1070500@verizon.net> <200510242019.14908.sebas@kde.nl> <435E3CFF.7050507@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510251706.34681.sebas@kde.nl> On Tuesday 25 October 2005 16:11, Art Alexion wrote: > Sebastian Kügler wrote: > >On Monday 24 October 2005 20:07, Art Alexion wrote: > >>is there a way to start X with numlock on? I installed the numlock > >>package which is supposed to turn numlock on at boot, but it doesn't > >>work. Actually, I think it is working but every time X starts or > >>restarts, numlock is turned off. > > > >[alt]+f2 -> "kcontrol" -> Peripherals -> Keyboard > > > >Cheers, > > Thanks, Sebastian. Gave it a try, but still numlock off when X and kdm > start. With this setting, NumLock should be switched on as soon as you log in. If you want to have NumLock on already when KDM starts, have a look at /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc for the following: # What to do with the Num Lock modifier for the time the greeter is running: # "Off" - turn off # "On" - turn on # "Keep" - do not change the state # Default is Keep #NumLock=Off Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Anything cut to length will be too short. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Used to use Right-Click-MP3 > > > >>> on Windows box couple of years ago. > > > >> > > > >>This is a linux newsgroup and as such I don't know what windows has > > > >> to do with it? > > > > > > > > There really was no need for that comment. The OP might have been a > > > > little windows did it better but why rise to the bait. > > > > > > And the OP posted from: > > > > > > Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > > > > > > ;). I still helped them in case they are genuine, I wasn't having a go, > > > just pointing out that some information was irrelevant. > > > > Before I get further slaughtered in the mailing list. Yes I still use > > outlook as a mail client. But I was trying to state that the last time I > > ripped CD's I was using Windows and used that program. I had no idea > > what program to use in Kubuntu > > People need to lighten up about the intentions of posters based on their > email client or whatever else. FWIW, Jonathan happens to be a very active > member of the Ubuntu Documentation Team focusing on Kubuntu...his > intentions are very good. Troy, Thanks for the kind words and also for the help w/ KAudioCreator and also the information on amaorK. I hadn't tried either of those applications and they are solving my needs. Jonathan From sebas at kde.nl Tue Oct 25 16:38:45 2005 From: sebas at kde.nl (Sebastian =?utf-8?q?K=C3=BCgler?=) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:38:45 +0200 Subject: ATI drivers and kernel-source-2.6.12 In-Reply-To: <7938940.1130252655448.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> References: <7938940.1130252655448.JavaMail.www@wwinf1520> Message-ID: <200510251838.55960.sebas@kde.nl> On Tuesday 25 October 2005 17:04, Gerard CARNAT wrote: > Where can I find "kernel-source-2.6.12? The package is called linux-source-2.6.12 -- sebas http://www.kde.nl | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0EF9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mohandas K. Gandhi often changed his mind publicly. An aide once asked him how he could so freely contradict this week what he had said just last week. The great man replied that it was because this week he knew better. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 481 bytes Desc: not available URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 25 17:09:24 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:09:24 -0400 Subject: Numlock In-Reply-To: <200510251706.34681.sebas@kde.nl> References: <435D22F1.1070500@verizon.net> <200510242019.14908.sebas@kde.nl> <435E3CFF.7050507@verizon.net> <200510251706.34681.sebas@kde.nl> Message-ID: <435E66C4.30600@verizon.net> Sebastian Kügler wrote: >On Tuesday 25 October 2005 16:11, Art Alexion wrote: > > >>Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> >> >>>On Monday 24 October 2005 20:07, Art Alexion wrote: >>> >>> >>>>is there a way to start X with numlock on? I installed the numlock >>>>package which is supposed to turn numlock on at boot, but it doesn't >>>>work. Actually, I think it is working but every time X starts or >>>>restarts, numlock is turned off. >>>> >>>> >>>[alt]+f2 -> "kcontrol" -> Peripherals -> Keyboard >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>> >>Thanks, Sebastian. Gave it a try, but still numlock off when X and kdm >>start. >> >> > >With this setting, NumLock should be switched on as soon as you log in. If you >want to have NumLock on already when KDM starts, have a look >at /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc for the following: > ># What to do with the Num Lock modifier for the time the greeter is running: ># "Off" - turn off ># "On" - turn on ># "Keep" - do not change the state ># Default is Keep >#NumLock=Off > > >Cheers, > > Perfect. Thanks! -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From arthur at alexion.com Tue Oct 25 17:24:10 2005 From: arthur at alexion.com (Arthur S. Alexion) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:24:10 -0400 Subject: Links in Thunderbird Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Before the last security update to Thunderbird, the connection between Thunderbird and Firefox worked fine. Clicking HTTP URLs in mail messages opened the link in Firefox and clicking mailto URLs in Firefox started the Thunderbird composer. The security update seems to have broken this. I have gotten mailto URLs to work, but HTTP links in messages create a lot of disk activity, but nothing happens. Thinderbird doesn't seem to have anything specific in its preferences. The Attachments tab lists helper apps, but does not allow mime type additions. My configured helpers list is empty. Yet there are some default actions. How are these defaults changed? I am using Kubuntu Hoary. - -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html ________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBQ15qQ0LG/oYII0YuAQJDnAP+McFtI3bQwymZoCxf3se/8xBP3T0n2sTh ST1T2DpruZPzM99wtLeK/Cp4WAJgzEWLqrrYtvAFF/oI1mRxg3/0v9KRYnHeApHV /1FTChd40cEwbPnn3b/cT0wsgsDT4hBJ1ScyxV/wq/SVIe6irSVhsG/UvFvYxbe9 1CP4ciBeTSw= =r+Fs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joantur at cancullet.org Tue Oct 25 20:41:55 2005 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:41:55 +0200 Subject: katapult howto? In-Reply-To: <435DF21F.9090702@akl.lt> References: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> <200510241943.44133.joantur@cancullet.org> <435DF21F.9090702@akl.lt> Message-ID: <200510252241.57541.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dimarts, 25 de Octubre de 2005 10:51, en Donatas G. va escriure: | Joan Tur rašė: | > Es Diumenge, 23 de Octubre de 2005 03:09, en golfer va escriure: | > | I don't find any info with 'man katapult', on the wiki, or the | > | doc/katapult/README. What am I to do to use Katapult? | > | > Same here... I still don't know what it does/how to use it... maybe we | > can get some examples? 8-? | | first of all, launch it, so it runs in the background: | | Alt+F2 and type in katapult | press enter. | | Then type | alt+Space bar | | you will see Katapult appearing in the middle of a window. | | then start typing any program name, e.g., Konqueror | | after you have typed konq you will see Konqueror icon in the katapult | window and the full name of the program being guessed. Once you see the | right program there, just push enter, whether you have typed the full | name or not. | | The program will get launced! | | That is all the manual you can have! | | Donatas Glodenis That's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks ;) PD It's nice... now I have to remember the procedure (alt+space) O8-) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lionelv at gmail.com Tue Oct 25 22:52:18 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:52:18 +1000 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: <200510250826.49487.jjesse@iserv.net> References: <200510251942.55602.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> <200510250826.49487.jjesse@iserv.net> Message-ID: Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Before I get further slaughtered in the mailing list. Yes I still use outlook > as a mail client. But I was trying to state that the last time I ripped CD's > I was using Windows and used that program. I had no idea what program to use > in Kubuntu > I apologise, I wouldn't normally have a go at someone in that way, even though it wasn't meant in a completely rude way. I see you are now using kmail :). Lionel. From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Wed Oct 26 00:15:14 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:15:14 -0500 Subject: Links in Thunderbird In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435ECA92.7050405@bellsouth.net> In your /home/ directory look for either a .Mozilla-Thunderbird or .thunderbird directory. The directory will be hidden. In that directory look for a folder that corresponds to your user profile. Unless you named it something else it will .default. In that folder look for a file called user.js. Open it and add the following line user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/usr/bin/mozilla-firefox"); Of course, replace /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox with the correct path for your machine. Arthur S. Alexion wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Before the last security update to Thunderbird, the connection between >Thunderbird and Firefox worked fine. Clicking HTTP URLs in mail messages >opened the link in Firefox and clicking mailto URLs in Firefox started the >Thunderbird composer. > >The security update seems to have broken this. I have gotten mailto URLs to >work, but HTTP links in messages create a lot of disk activity, but nothing >happens. > >Thinderbird doesn't seem to have anything specific in its preferences. The >Attachments tab lists helper apps, but does not allow mime type additions. >My configured helpers list is empty. Yet there are some default actions. > >How are these defaults changed? > >I am using Kubuntu Hoary. > > >- -- > >_______________________________________ >Art Alexion >Arthur S. Alexion LLC > >PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A >The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for >alarm. >Info @ >http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html >________________________________________ >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > >iQCVAwUBQ15qQ0LG/oYII0YuAQJDnAP+McFtI3bQwymZoCxf3se/8xBP3T0n2sTh >ST1T2DpruZPzM99wtLeK/Cp4WAJgzEWLqrrYtvAFF/oI1mRxg3/0v9KRYnHeApHV >/1FTChd40cEwbPnn3b/cT0wsgsDT4hBJ1ScyxV/wq/SVIe6irSVhsG/UvFvYxbe9 >1CP4ciBeTSw= >=r+Fs >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Wed Oct 26 00:30:42 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:30:42 -0500 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435ECE32.3080702@bellsouth.net> I have just started down this road myself. I am using Amarok and so far I love it. I am no expert, but this what I have learned so far. The first thing you should do is go to www.tuxmagazine.org and find the June 2005 back issue. It's free. Page 22 is an article showing you how to mount your ipod (assuming it isnt automounted already). In fact, I recommend Tux for anyone who is new to Linux. It has been immensely helpful to me. Of course, amarok is only as good as the plugins you have installed. Lame is essential as that converts WAV to mp3 files. You do not want to store WAV files on your ipod because they take up 10 times as much space as mp3 and m4a. Also, I dont think I-pod will play ogg files (I could be wrong on this). To get the plugins, try this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats That should get you started. Jonathan Jesse wrote: >It has been awhile since i have had the storage space and the desire to rip >CDs to MP3 but as I have recently bought my wife an Ipod it is time to do so >for her. > >Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on >Windows box couple of years ago. > > > > From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Wed Oct 26 00:37:12 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 19:37:12 -0500 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: <435ECE32.3080702@bellsouth.net> References: <435ECE32.3080702@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <435ECFB8.5030908@bellsouth.net> Jay Ouzts wrote: > I have just started down this road myself. I am using Amarok and so > far I love it. I am no expert, but this what I have learned so far. > > The first thing you should do is go to www.tuxmagazine.org and find > the June 2005 back issue. It's free. Page 22 is an article showing > you how to mount your ipod (assuming it isnt automounted already). > In fact, I recommend Tux for anyone who is new to Linux. It has been > immensely helpful to me. BTW the June issue is Issue #3. From mcurley at eol.ca Wed Oct 26 01:20:29 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:20:29 -0400 Subject: Konqueror failing to load webpages In-Reply-To: References: <200510202249.21958.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510252120.29295.mcurley@eol.ca> On Friday 21 October 2005 09:04, Brad De Vries wrote: > > Thanks Merv, but I hardwire connect to my router via eth0 and it > still doesn't work. I could literally have both firefox and konq > running side-by-side, firefox will work and konq will not. > > As for the proxy settings, I've checked kcontrol to verify that > it's not setup but am willing to check elsewhere if you can give me > an idea where. > I have 4 computers on my lan with a switch[hub] tied into an old computer with a Coyote firewall. So we are somewhat similar. I am quite sure that Konq. works in Breezy as it has for me in the past year on SuSE10. Mepis 33, pclinuxos, Mandriva 2006 and Hoary. Your problem is just like a lot of mine, things that only happen to me. I assume that Konq is ok as a file manager. Have you had this problem with any other distro? I don't have any hints to help you with config items. Were you able to log onto your router, or get a response from it? I can config my firewall with a browser, and I have config'd DLink routers remotely also. No other responses would indicate that your problem is rather unique to users here. You could try Opera and see if it is problem free or perhaps try non-GUI browser like w3m to see if you can get on the net using it. I don't think it is Konq, but maybe a reinstall? Cheers -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Wed Oct 26 01:31:38 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:31:38 -0400 Subject: kweather Message-ID: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> I have posted a rather lengthy message about the kweather applet and my problems on the Kubuntu forum ( not Ubuntu/kubuntu forum ). Any one here used it successfully? For me it has worked only on one of 4 computers. I will repeat the forum message if anyone thinks they can offer some help. Cheers -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Wed Oct 26 02:24:16 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:24:16 -0400 Subject: File dialogs [ in kde too? ] In-Reply-To: <200510251235.10840@morrigan> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510251235.10840@morrigan> Message-ID: <200510252224.16496.mcurley@eol.ca> On Tuesday 25 October 2005 11:35, federico wrote: > Hi, > > I don't have an answer but another > question ... > Please start a new thread with a new message and not a reply. There are legitimate reasons for this. Enjoy -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Wed Oct 26 02:38:22 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:38:22 -0400 Subject: File dialogs In-Reply-To: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510252238.22041.mcurley@eol.ca> On Tuesday 25 October 2005 09:24, Art Alexion wrote: > One thing I really miss in the current KDE and Gnome file dialogs > is the lack of a text entry box where you can just type the path > instead of having to navigate up and down the one branch to another > of the directory tree. > > Is there a way to restore this? Restore it to what application? If you are using mc for a file manager, you can enter the path for the active window on the command line. If you want to change the location to open a file in Kate just enter the path in the top location box. You have to enter the file name in the Location box. The top box is also a file chooser, enter /usr/ for example and you can choose directories that appear. Enter a ~ and you will be changed to your home directory. I find it almost as fast as typing. Cheerio -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From ouch.doh at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 03:53:26 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:53:26 -0300 Subject: File dialogs [ in kde too? ] In-Reply-To: <200510252224.16496.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510251235.10840@morrigan> <200510252224.16496.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510260053.26966@morrigan> On Tuesday 25 October 2005 23:24, Merv Curley wrote: Merv Curley escribió: > Please start a new thread with a new message and not a reply.  There > are legitimate reasons for this. I do know, but have you read the question? It was absolutely related to the op so there was no reason to create a new thread with a slight variation of the original question or a comment on it. Just as you would not start a new one to comment my "question". It is just that the op surprised me and I wanted to know ( still want ) if this is that way or not. Sorry to have annoyed you anyway. regards fede From mcurley at eol.ca Wed Oct 26 02:57:16 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:57:16 -0400 Subject: Connection speed In-Reply-To: <200510251235.10840@morrigan> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510251235.10840@morrigan> Message-ID: <200510252257.16074.mcurley@eol.ca> On Tuesday 25 October 2005 11:35, federico wrote: > Hi, > > I don't have an answer but another > question ... > > I 've been downloading Breezy packages > ( apt-get -d ... ) for the last few days now > ( such a slow connection I have :-( ) > Well your download speed is often related to the server. You may be trying to get your files from a very busy server. I understand that the us mirror is slow, I have no problems with the Canadian [ca.archive.ubuntu.com] archive. I often go to a European mirror when it is after 8-9 pm here in Eastern Can.. > Is this true? If there's something that keeps me > away from gnome is the crippled file browser. > I have heard that before but I don't use Gnome so I don't know personally. > Can anyone confirm this? Does Breezy Kubuntu > cripples the kde filechooser, too? That alone could > make me cancel the download and restore my hoary > sources.list. > The filechoosers in Kubuntu work very fast as far as I can see. How can it be crippled? > > Is there a way to restore this? > Restore what? > Please? :'( > Cheerio -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 04:36:38 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:36:38 -0400 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <435F07D6.7080208@verizon.net> Merv Curley wrote: >I have posted a rather lengthy message about the kweather applet and >my problems on the Kubuntu forum ( not Ubuntu/kubuntu forum ). > >Any one here used it successfully? For me it has worked only on one >of 4 computers. > >I will repeat the forum message if anyone thinks they can offer some >help. > > It works fine for me. It is disappointing that it doesn't do forecasts like the gnome weather app, but mine seems to do what it promises fine. What sorts of problems are you having? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 04:30:29 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:30:29 -0400 Subject: File dialogs References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510252238.22041.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: Merv Curley wrote: > On Tuesday 25 October 2005 09:24, Art Alexion wrote: >> One thing I really miss in the current KDE and Gnome file dialogs >> is the lack of a text entry box where you can just type the path >> instead of having to navigate up and down the one branch to another >> of the directory tree. >> >> Is there a way to restore this? > > > If you want to change the location to open a file in Kate just enter > the path in the top location box. You have to enter the file name > in the Location box. The top box is also a file chooser, > enter /usr/ for example and you can choose directories that appear. > Enter a ~ and you will be changed to your home directory. I find > it almost as fast as typing. Thank you. I think I hadn't noticed that because I am still using a few GTK apps and had confused the Gnome2 dialogs with those of KDE3. They look very similar, but you are correct, KDE dialogs still have a location box for text entry, which is gone in Gnome. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html ________________________________________ From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 05:30:38 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 01:30:38 -0400 Subject: knode configuration help Message-ID: I am trying to configure my SMTP server in knode. My server requires simple username/password authentication, but there doesn't seem to be anywhere to set it like there is in kmail and thunderbird. How does knode SMTP work? internal SMTP or postfix? How do I configure this? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion arthur [at] alexion [dot] com PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html ________________________________________ From prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca Wed Oct 26 11:11:05 2005 From: prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca (Betti Ann & Preston Smith) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:11:05 -0300 Subject: User profiles Message-ID: <435F6449.4010809@ns.sympatico.ca> I use Firefox and Thunderbird under EXP and plan to use them under Kubuntu. I would like to use the same profile directories under both OS's Under Kubuntu is it possible to direct these programs to the profiles I use under EXP (Kubuntu can already read and write to the FAT32 partitions). I tried to change the default directory locations under XP with no success. Thanks Preston From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Oct 26 12:36:04 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:36:04 +0100 Subject: katapult howto? In-Reply-To: <200510252241.57541.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> <200510241943.44133.joantur@cancullet.org> <435DF21F.9090702@akl.lt> <200510252241.57541.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: Is it in the repos anywhere or will I have to compile and install manually? From dgvirtual at akl.lt Wed Oct 26 12:52:00 2005 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:52:00 +0300 Subject: katapult howto? In-Reply-To: References: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> <200510241943.44133.joantur@cancullet.org> <435DF21F.9090702@akl.lt> <200510252241.57541.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <435F7BF0.5020705@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin J Hooper ra??: > Is it in the repos anywhere or will I have to compile and install manually? > > katapult is definitely in breezy, not sure about backport to warty. It is also part of metapackage kubuntu-desktop. Donatas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQ1978PDtAb8AVdgrAQJ9fQP9E5b4GJPpMg2oSbDpaZ4+xIIWhjpp/ilx qFL2L16zKHyutCMQfXNa+Y9/fT1Wr/lgyuszkWLtBp6PBmTxEYPakD33tXn3Teqc Y1xqqe09rzjC8LLJOoT/eHkxl3KyZMtIEPFre1g3qpCoAl01ckscIxqHAsZIW65O i/dqeKDeL2w= =5nky -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Oct 26 12:52:24 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:52:24 +0100 Subject: File dialogs In-Reply-To: References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510252238.22041.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > Thank you. I think I hadn't noticed that because I am still using a few GTK > apps and had confused the Gnome2 dialogs with those of KDE3. They look > very similar, but you are correct, KDE dialogs still have a location box > for text entry, which is gone in Gnome. Art - When you start to type in a dir in the Gnome chooser a little box pops up that allows you to change directly to an entered dir. To activate it just start typing. From michel at ziobudda.net Wed Oct 26 14:01:44 2005 From: michel at ziobudda.net (Davide Michel Morelli) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:01:44 +0200 Subject: libexpat not found after upgrade Message-ID: <1130335304.8502.5.camel@zblaptop> Hi all. I have a problem with my Athlon64 notebook after upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10. /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrolpanel /usr/X11R6/bin/fireglcontrolpanel: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory $ locate libexpat.so.0 /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 /usr/lib32/libexpat.so.0 $ sudo ldconfig -v | grep expa libexpat.so.1 -> libexpat.so.1.0.0 [in /usr/lib] libexpat.so.1 -> libexpat.so.1.0.0 [in /usr/lib32] $ ls -la /usr/lib32/libexpat* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2005-10-24 16:17 /usr/lib32/libexpat.so.0 -> libexpat.so.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2005-10-24 16:17 /usr/lib32/libexpat.so.1 -> libexpat.so.1.0.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 125168 2005-04-22 18:05 /usr/lib32/libexpat.so.1.0.0 Where is the error ? Tnx. -- Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobudda.net http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 http://www.phpbook.it FAX: 0291390660 From ouch.doh at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 15:43:08 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:43:08 -0300 Subject: Connection speed In-Reply-To: <200510252257.16074.mcurley@eol.ca> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510251235.10840@morrigan> <200510252257.16074.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510261243.09273@morrigan> On Tuesday 25 October 2005 23:57, Merv Curley wrote: Merv Curley escribió: > Well your download speed is often related to the server.  You may be > trying to get your files from a very busy server.  I understand that > the us mirror is slow,  I have no problems with  the Canadian   > [ca.archive.ubuntu.com]  archive.  I often go to a European mirror > when it is after 8-9 pm here in Eastern Can.. the main problem is my link is only 64kbps :-( sigh. For the last week apt-get has been telling me that in 1d 24h xxx it will finish :-) lol It will finish one day or another. f From todd at toddyarling.com Wed Oct 26 15:04:43 2005 From: todd at toddyarling.com (Todd Yarling) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:04:43 -0400 Subject: keyboard kraziness with xkb after upgrade Message-ID: <435F9B0B.4070107@toddyarling.com> I had added a custom keyboard config to make my Logitech elite multimedia buttons accessable before the upgrade to breezy. I had some burps regarding xkb in the upgrade which got straightened out.... However, now I have no VT's once X is started, ie, alt+cnt+F# no longer works to get the system shells. If I shutdown X, they are there. Plus when I start gnome I get an xkb related error.For a while it wouldnt boot at all. So the prob is somewhere in xkb i figure. Or maybe in my xorg.conf. How to fix, and what to use for a couple year old Logitech Elite non Wireless? From ceplm at seznam.cz Wed Oct 26 14:49:49 2005 From: ceplm at seznam.cz (Matej Cepl) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:49:49 -0400 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's References: Message-ID: Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Best software to convert CDs to MP3s? Used to use Right-Click-MP3 on > Windows box couple of years ago. I just put-in CD, go to audiocd:/ in konqueror and then copy MP3 (or I prefer OGG) files to whereever I want them. As simple as that. Matej -- Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/ GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose. From gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr Wed Oct 26 15:58:04 2005 From: gerard.carnat at wanadoo.fr (Gerard CARNAT) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:58:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: ATI X300SE PCI and Breezy Message-ID: <959170.1130342284494.JavaMail.www@wwinf0402> Hi everyone, Has someone succeded in installing ATI drivers for an ATI X300 on Breezy? Apparently the processes that were working with hoary do not work with Breezy 2.6.12 Thanks for your help. Gérard From ouch.doh at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 19:37:40 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:37:40 -0300 Subject: File dialogs In-Reply-To: References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510252238.22041.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510261637.41526@morrigan> Hello again, On Wednesday 26 October 2005 01:30, Art Alexion wrote: Art Alexion escribió: > KDE dialogs still have a location box Thank god! ( or better the devs ). I got really worried about it. So still downloading and now 23hs away from breezy ( says apt-get ;-) ) . salute f From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 19:16:02 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:16:02 -0400 Subject: Links in Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <435ECA92.7050405@bellsouth.net> References: <435ECA92.7050405@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <435FD5F2.6030707@verizon.net> Thank you, Jay. That fixed it fine. Jay Ouzts wrote: > In your /home/ directory look for either a .Mozilla-Thunderbird or .thunderbird directory. The directory will be hidden. > > In that directory look for a folder that corresponds to your user profile. Unless you named it something else it will .default. > > In that folder look for a file called user.js. > > Open it and add the following line > > user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "/usr/bin/mozilla-firefox"); > > Of course, replace /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox with the correct path for your machine. > > Arthur S. Alexion wrote: > > Before the last security update to Thunderbird, the connection between > Thunderbird and Firefox worked fine. Clicking HTTP URLs in mail messages > opened the link in Firefox and clicking mailto URLs in Firefox started the > Thunderbird composer. > > The security update seems to have broken this. I have gotten mailto > URLs to > work, but HTTP links in messages create a lot of disk activity, but > nothing > happens. > > Thinderbird doesn't seem to have anything specific in its > preferences. The > Attachments tab lists helper apps, but does not allow mime type > additions. My configured helpers list is empty. Yet there are some > default actions. > > How are these defaults changed? > > I am using Kubuntu Hoary. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 19:18:55 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:18:55 -0400 Subject: User profiles In-Reply-To: <435F6449.4010809@ns.sympatico.ca> References: <435F6449.4010809@ns.sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <435FD69F.50202@verizon.net> Betti Ann & Preston Smith wrote: > I use Firefox and Thunderbird under EXP and plan to use them under > Kubuntu. > > I would like to use the same profile directories under both OS's > > Under Kubuntu is it possible to direct these programs to the > profiles I use under EXP (Kubuntu can already read and write to the > FAT32 partitions). I tried to change the default directory locations > under XP with no success. I can think of two (alternative) things to try. 1. At the file system level on the Linux system, create a symbolic link to the current profile directory on the fat32 partition. Note the name of the default profile directory on the Linux installation. Delete (or for safety as this is an experiment, rename) the default profile directory on the Linux system. Rename the symbolic link as the original name of the default profile directory. Never tried this, but it should redirect the calls to the default Linux profiles to the default win32 profiles. 2. At the configuration level. Install the about:config extensions as needed to Firefox and Thunderbird. Change the profile directories as needed. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 19:20:38 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:20:38 -0400 Subject: File dialogs In-Reply-To: References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510252238.22041.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <435FD706.9080806@verizon.net> Martin J Hooper wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >> Thank you. I think I hadn't noticed that because I am still using a >> few GTK >> apps and had confused the Gnome2 dialogs with those of KDE3. They look >> very similar, but you are correct, KDE dialogs still have a location box >> for text entry, which is gone in Gnome. > > > Art - When you start to type in a dir in the Gnome chooser a little > box pops up that allows you to change directly to an entered dir. > > To activate it just start typing. > > > Yep. Thanks. Thought, at first, it was a step backwards eliminating that feature. Now I know it was just hidden. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 19:27:24 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:27:24 -0400 Subject: kmail questions Message-ID: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> I am thinking of switching from Thunderbird to kmail/kontact. I keep kontact up most of the time anyway so why run an additional email program. I also like the spamassassin integration which I could never figure out how to configure with Thunderbird. Can anyone recommend resources for the following issues: 1. Thunderbird/enigmail allowed me to import public keys from the enigmail interface without leaving Thunderbird. Is there a way to do this using kmail. 2. While it is nice that I can set up different identities connected to different POP accounts, I can't find any way or documentation on how to switch identities "on the fly", that is, on an ad hoc per message basis. Is this possible, or do I always have to reconfigure the default identity? (I noticed that I can assign identities to folders, but how does this help me when replying to messages in the inbox?) 3. One of the features I like about Thunderbird is the ability to compose messages in html and them send them in plain text. Thunderbird preserves some paragraph formatting such as lists and indents, which is nice. This doesn't seem supported in kmail. Is there a way to do this? 4. During the transition, I would like to share mail folders between kmail and Thunderbird so that all mail is collected in the same place. That is, I am not talking about importing the mail at this time, but rather having both MUAs accessing the same folders. Is this possible? Is there a good how-to? 5. I sent this message from Thunderbird because all of my kmail messages seem to be stuck in the outbox and send queued doesn't seem to do anything. No error. No activity. Nothing. TIA, Art -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 19:28:28 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:28:28 -0400 Subject: default app administration Message-ID: <435FD8DC.6020000@verizon.net> My system is originally Ubuntu Warty, upgraded to Ubuntu Hoary via apt, and then to Kubuntu Hoary by installing the kubuntu-desktop package. Seems, though that the default apps are still the Gnome set ones. Can I override this in KDE, or do I have to launch Gnome to set the KDE apps as defaults (how ironic if true)? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rida84 at libero.it Wed Oct 26 19:33:46 2005 From: rida84 at libero.it (Rida) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:33:46 +0200 Subject: ATI mobility Radeon X700 drivers Message-ID: <435FDA1A.2040805@libero.it> Hi everyone!! I have an Acer 1960 notebook but I can't see nothing when I tried to install Kubuntu or Ubuntu... someone have or know where I can find the ATI mobility Radeon X700 drivers for my notebook?!?! thanks in advance Andrea :-) From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 19:38:10 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:38:10 -0400 Subject: knode configuration help In-Reply-To: <2020284.bVionOTy7O@J212273445.user.x-privat.org> References: <2020284.bVionOTy7O@J212273445.user.x-privat.org> Message-ID: <435FDB22.3060606@verizon.net> Josef K. wrote: >Art Alexion wrote: > > >>How does knode SMTP work? internal SMTP or postfix? >> >> > >interal I guess > > > >>How do I configure this? >> >> > >just >configuration\account\server\SMTP > >(maybe something is named a bit different since I use a localized version of >knode, but for sure is just the same place where you've set nttp accounts, >just the other tab :)) > > > Thanks Josef, but unlike kmail, the knode SMTP tab does not permit configuration of SMTP authentication. That is what I need to do. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Wed Oct 26 19:35:22 2005 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:35:22 +0200 Subject: File dialogs In-Reply-To: References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510252238.22041.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: Martin J Hooper schrieb am 26.10.2005 14:52: > Art - When you start to type in a dir in the Gnome chooser a little box > pops up that allows you to change directly to an entered dir. > > To activate it just start typing. CTRL+l This will work with completion. (As in nautilus.) bye Thilo From jpowers at incidentreports.com Wed Oct 26 19:54:47 2005 From: jpowers at incidentreports.com (Jason Powers) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:54:47 -0400 Subject: kmail attachment sensing In-Reply-To: <200510261534.47407.jason@powers.bz> References: <435FD75F.2060204@verizon.net> <200510261534.47407.jason@powers.bz> Message-ID: <200510261554.48442.jpowers@incidentreports.com> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 15:22, Art Alexion wrote: > Most of the time I try to send a message, kmail pops up a dialog that > asks if > I forgot to include an attachment. It happens most of the time but not > always. What triggers this? Is there a way to disable it as it usually > guesses wrong? I believe it may be seeing the word "attachment" in your signature. The fix for it is under Configure KMail > Composer > Attachments > Enable detection of missing attachments If it's useful functionality for you, you might want to change your signature line to read something other than "The attachment" -- Jason Powers Developer IncidentReports, Inc From ouch.doh at gmail.com Wed Oct 26 21:12:14 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:12:14 -0300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510261812.15365@morrigan> Hi, On Wednesday 26 October 2005 16:27, Art Alexion wrote: Art Alexion escribió: > 2. While it is nice that I can set up different identities connected >       to different POP accounts, I can't find any way or documentation >       on how to switch identities "on the fly", that is, on an ad hoc >       per message basis.  Is this possible, or do I always have to >       reconfigure the default identity?  (I noticed that I can assign >       identities to folders, but how does this help me when replying to >       messages in the inbox?) Kmail will select the identity that matches the address the mail was delivered to. In my inbox I have mail that comes to several accounts I use. If I hit reply, it will have the identity auto selected correctly. This breaks with mail where the to: field does not match the address of one of your identities. To change the default identity or the one selected by kmail in the open compose window, you have View->Identity item in the menu. Choose this and over the to: fields there appears an Identity combobox. About the indentities and folders bit, I had not seen it before you mentioned it, so a big thanks! HTH fede From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 21:09:46 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:09:46 -0400 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <200510261812.15365@morrigan> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510261812.15365@morrigan> Message-ID: <435FF09A.5080003@verizon.net> federico wrote: >Hi, > >On Wednesday 26 October 2005 16:27, Art Alexion wrote: >Art Alexion escribió: > > >>2. While it is nice that I can set up different identities connected >> to different POP accounts, I can't find any way or documentation >> on how to switch identities "on the fly", that is, on an ad hoc >> per message basis. Is this possible, or do I always have to >> reconfigure the default identity? (I noticed that I can assign >> identities to folders, but how does this help me when replying to >> messages in the inbox?) >> >> > > >Kmail will select the identity that matches the address the mail >was delivered to. In my inbox I have mail that comes to several >accounts I use. If I hit reply, it will have the identity auto >selected correctly. This breaks with mail where the to: field >does not match the address of one of your identities. > >To change the default identity or the one selected by kmail >in the open compose window, you have View->Identity item >in the menu. Choose this and over the to: fields there appears >an Identity combobox. > > > Thanks. I hadn't realized that about automatic selection. Now, if I could only get it to send my messages instead of permanently parking them in the outbox..... :-( -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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At the file system level on the Linux system, create a symbolic > link to the current profile directory on the fat32 partition. > Note the name of the default profile directory on the Linux > installation. Delete (or for safety as this is an experiment, > rename) the default profile directory on the Linux system. Rename > the symbolic link as the original name of the default profile > directory. Never tried this, but it should redirect the calls to > the default Linux profiles to the default win32 profiles. I've done it, and it worked fine. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 26 20:47:33 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:47:33 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Art Alexion wrote: > I am thinking of switching from Thunderbird to kmail/kontact. Smart man :-) > 2. While it is nice that I can set up different identities connected > to different POP accounts, I can't find any way or documentation > on how to switch identities "on the fly", that is, on an ad hoc > per message basis. While editing a message, click on the View menu and check Identity. Then you have a drop down list of identities to choose from. > 3. One of the features I like about Thunderbird is the ability to > compose messages in html and them send them in plain text. > Thunderbird preserves some paragraph formatting such as lists and > indents, which is nice. This doesn't seem supported in kmail. Is > there a way to do this? Kmail's HTML support sucks. Fortunately I only send one HTML mail a year... > 4. During the transition, I would like to share mail folders between > kmail and Thunderbird so that all mail is collected in the same > place. That is, I am not talking about importing the mail at this > time, but rather having both MUAs accessing the same folders. Is > this possible? Is there a good how-to? If thunderbird uses maildirs, easy. Add an account, of type Maildir, and point it to the right directory. You can NOT have two processes access an mbox. Just Don't Do It :) Alternatively, run an imap server, and point both mail programs at it (or practically any other mail program). > 5. I sent this message from Thunderbird because all of my kmail > messages seem to be stuck in the outbox and send queued doesn't > seem to do anything. No error. No activity. Nothing. Sorry, can't help. It always pops up a message when it can't mail something I send. -- derek From str at strgt.cjb.net Wed Oct 26 21:19:43 2005 From: str at strgt.cjb.net (Stuardo -StR- =?iso-8859-1?q?Rodr=EDguez?=) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:19:43 -0600 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200510261519.44430.str@strgt.cjb.net> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 8:49 am, Matej Cepl wrote: > I just put-in CD, go to audiocd:/ in konqueror and then copy MP3 (or I > prefer OGG) files to whereever I want them. As simple as that. I think this is the best solution, it can't be more simple than that From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Wed Oct 26 21:19:56 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:19:56 +1300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <435FF09A.5080003@verizon.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510261812.15365@morrigan> <435FF09A.5080003@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510271019.56281.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> About Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:09 Art Alexion wibbled about Re: kmail questions : > > Thanks. I hadn't realized that about automatic selection. Now, if I > could only get it to send my messages instead of permanently parking > them in the outbox..... :-( The only reason it would do that is if your sending server is not set up properly or you've set it to queue messages rather than send -- *~~~~~~DakaR http://linux.kwister.com Registered Linux #215413 From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Oct 26 21:26:13 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:26:13 -0400 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> Derek Broughton wrote: >Art Alexion wrote: > > > >>I am thinking of switching from Thunderbird to kmail/kontact. >> >> > >Smart man :-) > > > >> 2. While it is nice that I can set up different identities connected >> to different POP accounts, I can't find any way or documentation >> on how to switch identities "on the fly", that is, on an ad hoc >> per message basis. >> >> > >While editing a message, click on the View menu and check Identity. Then >you have a drop down list of identities to choose from. > > I found another way. Right click on message composer toolbar and add an identities button. the Button toggles the appearance of a drop-down list where an identity can be chosen. >> 4. During the transition, I would like to share mail folders between >> kmail and Thunderbird so that all mail is collected in the same >> place. That is, I am not talking about importing the mail at this >> time, but rather having both MUAs accessing the same folders. Is >> this possible? Is there a good how-to? >> >> > >If thunderbird uses maildirs, easy. Add an account, of type Maildir, and >point it to the right directory. You can NOT have two processes access an >mbox. Just Don't Do It :) Alternatively, run an imap server, and point >both mail programs at it (or practically any other mail program). > > Just so I am clear, do I add the Maildir account to kmail or thunderbird? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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( no clue, never changed it ) This way it works charmingly for me. Oh!, and try right-click on the outbox folder, there should be a "Send queued messages" option. Happy kmailing ;-) f From ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net Wed Oct 26 22:17:40 2005 From: ouzt1013 at bellsouth.net (Jay Ouzts) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:17:40 -0500 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> Art Alexion wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Art Alexion wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am thinking of switching from Thunderbird to kmail/kontact. >> >> >> Smart man :-) > Can you elaborate on this? I use Thunderbird but am open to switching. Is there something about Kmail that makes it better? From rida84 at libero.it Wed Oct 26 23:24:51 2005 From: rida84 at libero.it (Rida) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:24:51 +0200 Subject: ATI mobility Radeon X700 drivers In-Reply-To: References: <435FDA1A.2040805@libero.it> Message-ID: <43601043.1020108@libero.it> Hi Guido!!! I've controlled the xorg.conf and I think it is configurated well... Have you used a particular options of installation when You installed Ubuntu?!?! Greeting from Italy!!! > This may not help you, but on my Acer Aspire Notebook with ATI > MOBILITY RADEON Xde databestandende databestanden I have no problems > with Ubuntu nor with KUBUNTU > > I do not need special drivers > > Greetings from Belgium > > 2005/10/26, Rida >: > > Hi everyone!! > > I have an Acer 1960 notebook but I can't see nothing when I tried to > install Kubuntu or Ubuntu... > someone have or know where I can find the ATI mobility Radeon X700 > drivers for my notebook?!?! > > thanks in advance > > Andrea > > :-) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 > Fax +31 (0)84 722 2075 > > Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. > > Guido (Dom) From james at grayonline.id.au Thu Oct 27 01:41:25 2005 From: james at grayonline.id.au (James Gray) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:41:25 +1000 Subject: ATI mobility Radeon X700 drivers In-Reply-To: <435FDA1A.2040805@libero.it> References: <435FDA1A.2040805@libero.it> Message-ID: <200510271141.26261.james@grayonline.id.au> On Thursday 27 October 2005 05:33, Rida wrote: > Hi everyone!! > > I have an Acer 1960 notebook but I can't see nothing when I tried to > install Kubuntu or Ubuntu... > someone have or know where I can find the ATI mobility Radeon X700 > drivers for my notebook?!?! > > thanks in advance > > Andrea Hi Andrea, I have a HP NC6230 with an Ati X300 chipset. I followed the instructions here (English doc, despite the Italian site): http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html The process is a little involved but EXTREMELY well documented. There's really nothing to it. Just read the document, then follow the steps. Contact me off-list if you need specific help with anything :) Cheers, James -- Men aren't attracted to me by my mind. They're attracted by what I don't mind... -- Gypsy Rose Lee From tulga at netsoft.mn Thu Oct 27 04:26:01 2005 From: tulga at netsoft.mn (Tulga) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:26:01 +0800 Subject: Best media player? Message-ID: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> Hi all I am using Kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5 beta 2. I want play mpg, avi files. Which player best? Regards, Tulga.G From meldroc at frii.com Thu Oct 27 04:31:33 2005 From: meldroc at frii.com (Doug Holland) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:31:33 -0600 Subject: Best media player? In-Reply-To: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> References: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> Message-ID: <200510262231.42859.meldroc@frii.com> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:26 pm, Tulga wrote: > Hi all > > I am using Kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5 beta 2. I want play mpg, avi files. > Which player best? > > Regards, > Tulga.G I'd recommend both xine and mplayer. Kaffeine's a good KDE front end to the xine engine, I use it a lot. You'll probably want to get the w32 codecs as well, though I don't know where to download them these days since the (K)ubuntu people can't legally distribute them... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lionelv at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 04:39:12 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:39:12 +1000 Subject: Best media player? In-Reply-To: <200510262231.42859.meldroc@frii.com> References: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> <200510262231.42859.meldroc@frii.com> Message-ID: Doug Holland wrote: > On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:26 pm, Tulga wrote: > >>Hi all >> >>I am using Kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5 beta 2. I want play mpg, avi files. >>Which player best? >> >>Regards, >>Tulga.G > > > I'd recommend both xine and mplayer. Kaffeine's a good KDE front end to the > xine engine, I use it a lot. You'll probably want to get the w32 codecs as > well, though I don't know where to download them these days since the > (K)ubuntu people can't legally distribute them... I agree with mplayer, it's by far the best. From tudza at tudza.com Thu Oct 27 05:03:03 2005 From: tudza at tudza.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?tudza?=) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:03:03 +0000 Subject: You got MP3 as one of the options? Message-ID: <20051027050304.10955.qmail@serversys852.com> I read this bit. I found the OGG option, which was a real surprise because I had never seen such a utility before. I didn't find MP3 as one of the file types created that I could copy. How do I turn this feature on? On Wednesday 26 October 2005 8:49 am, Matej Cepl wrote: > I just put-in CD, go to audiocd:/ in konqueror and then copy MP3 (or I > prefer OGG) files to whereever I want them. As simple as that. I think this is the best solution, it can't be more simple than that From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 27 04:56:43 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:56:43 +0100 Subject: Ripping CD's to MP3's In-Reply-To: <200510261519.44430.str@strgt.cjb.net> References: <200510261519.44430.str@strgt.cjb.net> Message-ID: Stuardo -StR- Rodríguez wrote: > On Wednesday 26 October 2005 8:49 am, Matej Cepl wrote: > >>I just put-in CD, go to audiocd:/ in konqueror and then copy MP3 (or I >>prefer OGG) files to whereever I want them. As simple as that. > > > I think this is the best solution, it can't be more simple than that > Just thinking - To use that option do you have to have a encoder installed? I tried it with lame installed and I don't think it gave me an option for mp3s.. From obsidion at xtra.co.nz Thu Oct 27 05:26:58 2005 From: obsidion at xtra.co.nz (David A' Rebel) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:26:58 +1300 Subject: Best media player? In-Reply-To: References: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> <200510262231.42859.meldroc@frii.com> Message-ID: <200510271826.58350.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> About Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:39 Lionel wibbled about Re: Best media player? : > I agree with mplayer, it's by far the best. I would have agreed a few days ago, then I discovered VLC. As a movie player it is a lot crisper than mplayer and though it's interface is a little less professional looking it is very functional. -- *~~~~~~DakaR http://linux.kwister.com Registered Linux #215413 From ecquinto at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 05:56:48 2005 From: ecquinto at gmail.com (EQ) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:56:48 +0800 Subject: synchronizing my palm Message-ID: <470d2c130510262256g3905b655ib07017204914db37@mail.gmail.com> Would any one know why I can't sync my palm 130 using 5.10 v? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm running GStreamer with alsasink, if that makes any difference. Thanks. Brett From sclewin at bmts.com Thu Oct 27 12:41:07 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:41:07 -0400 Subject: ATI mobility Radeon X700 drivers In-Reply-To: <435FDA1A.2040805@libero.it> References: <435FDA1A.2040805@libero.it> Message-ID: <4360CAE3.4010001@bmts.com> Rida wrote: > Hi everyone!! > > I have an Acer 1960 notebook but I can't see nothing when I tried to > install Kubuntu or Ubuntu... > someone have or know where I can find the ATI mobility Radeon X700 > drivers for my notebook?!?! There is a Radeon Linux driver you can get from www.ati.com, but I find it difficult to install and I don't think it will work with Ubuntu. You can try it and see what happens. Also, make sure you have the restricted Linux kernal installed, the one with the ATI drivers. Actually, if you have not done it yet try the restricted Linux kernal first. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From sclewin at bmts.com Thu Oct 27 14:31:16 2005 From: sclewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:31:16 -0400 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4360E4B4.6050908@bmts.com> Jay Ouzts wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> Art Alexion wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I am thinking of switching from Thunderbird to kmail/kontact. >>> >>> >>> Smart man :-) >> > > > Can you elaborate on this? I use Thunderbird but am open to > switching. Is there something about Kmail that makes it better? Yes, please. I ask also because when I first started using Linux I decided to go with Kmail. It was part of the KDE desktop that I like and I thought it was cool that it was in Kontact. But, I did not find anything special about it and noticed a few things I did not like. First, I noticed that it did not do HTML which was annoying, but not enough to stop using it. Then, I noticed it s spam filtering was horrible. I tried a few different ones on the list in the Kmail options and none could detect any spam, not without me telling them first what to look for. I really love the spam filtering in Thunderbird that learns from the mail you get. After a few days it can filter out spam with amazing precision and the new version 2 can also filter out scams with very nice precision. The version 2 even checks your spelling as you type now, just like the text editors. Lastly. Kmail did not seem to have the same variety of plugins and themes as Thunderbird has. Once Kmail gets all the stuff that Thunderbird has or gets something that is so good I am willing to give up all the things Thunderbird has I am going to need to stick with Thunderbird. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 27 14:29:24 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:29:24 -0300 Subject: knode configuration help References: <2020284.bVionOTy7O@J212273445.user.x-privat.org> <435FDB22.3060606@verizon.net> <2644454.DjBlsrJhUB@J212273445.user.x-privat.org> Message-ID: <4r4733-75q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Josef K. wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >> Thanks Josef, but unlike kmail, the knode SMTP tab does not permit >> configuration of SMTP authentication. That is what I need to do. > > If you're using kontact suite I guess you can simply set "use external sw" > and make it use kmail (but I didn't try <:)) > That's what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure I didn't set mine, yet it shows "use external" checked, and the actual software to use is blank - which I assume means it's using KMail, since it obviously _does_ use kmail. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 27 14:23:55 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:23:55 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>Art Alexion wrote: >> >>> 2. While it is nice that I can set up different identities connected >>> to different POP accounts, I can't find any way or documentation >>> on how to switch identities "on the fly", that is, on an ad hoc >>> per message basis. >> >>While editing a message, click on the View menu and check Identity. Then >>you have a drop down list of identities to choose from. > > I found another way. Right click on message composer toolbar and add an > identities button. the Button toggles the appearance of a drop-down > list where an identity can be chosen. LOL! It's Linux - there's _always_ another way. Now I have to go and change this so that I can do that and reclaim another line of screen space. Thanks. >>> 4. During the transition, I would like to share mail folders between >>> kmail and Thunderbird so that all mail is collected in the same >>> place. That is, I am not talking about importing the mail at this >>> time, but rather having both MUAs accessing the same folders. Is >>> this possible? Is there a good how-to? >> >>If thunderbird uses maildirs, easy. Add an account, of type Maildir, and >>point it to the right directory. You can NOT have two processes access an >>mbox. Just Don't Do It :) Alternatively, run an imap server, and point >>both mail programs at it (or practically any other mail program). > > Just so I am clear, do I add the Maildir account to kmail or thunderbird? I'm saying _if_ Thunderbird uses maildirs - I don't know if it does - then add that directory to KMail. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 27 14:48:26 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:48:26 -0300 Subject: synchronizing my palm References: <470d2c130510262256g3905b655ib07017204914db37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: EQ wrote: > Would any one know why I can't sync my palm 130 using 5.10 v? At a guess, because udev has changed the naming of the device? What device were you using before? Does it exist on your system _now_? -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 27 14:27:49 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:27:49 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <5o4733-l4q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Jay Ouzts wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> Art Alexion wrote: >>> >>>> I am thinking of switching from Thunderbird to kmail/kontact. >>> >>> Smart man :-) > > Can you elaborate on this? I use Thunderbird but am open to switching. > Is there something about Kmail that makes it better? Probably not really. I just like the way kontact is set up. I haven't used thunderbird in a while, but I think it probably has most of the same components - iirc, it has a calendar, and it definitely does mail & news. Does it do rss? I doubt it does weather - but that could as easily be a standalone app as be integrated to kontact. The one thing thunderbird really misses is Palm synchronization - which isn't very necessary if you don't have a Palm. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 27 16:15:53 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:15:53 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> <4360E4B4.6050908@bmts.com> Message-ID: Scott wrote: > Yes, please. I ask also because when I first started using Linux I > decided to go with Kmail. It was part of the KDE desktop that I like > and I thought it was cool that it was in Kontact. But, I did not find > anything special about it and noticed a few things I did not like. > First, I noticed that it did not do HTML which was annoying, but not I don't like HTML mail, so I don't miss it, but KMail _is_ still awful about that. > enough to stop using it. Then, I noticed it s spam filtering was > horrible. Personally I find KMail with bogofilter superior to Thunderbird. > to look for. I really love the spam filtering in Thunderbird that > learns from the mail you get. After a few days it can filter out spam > with amazing precision and the new version 2 can also filter out scams > with very nice precision. The version 2 even checks your spelling as > you type now, just like the text editors. As do kmail & knode. > Lastly. Kmail did not seem to > have the same variety of plugins and themes as Thunderbird has. ??? It's a _mail_ program. I don't want it to have a huge variety of themes - I want it to fit into my KDE desktop, which Thunderbird doesn't do. As for plugins, I'd be surprised if it doesn't have more - it can use any kio slave. -- derek From ouch.doh at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 18:17:09 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:17:09 -0300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <5o4733-l4q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> <5o4733-l4q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <200510271517.09682@morrigan> On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:27, Derek Broughton wrote: Derek Broughton escribió: > Does it do rss?  I doubt it does weather Kontact does both thru plugins. You can even put you favourite feeds and your wheather station in the summary view. Try settings->select components and then take look around configure kontact. IMHO kontact is very good. regards f From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 27 17:42:03 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:42:03 +0100 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> <4360E4B4.6050908@bmts.com> Message-ID: Derek Broughton wrote: > ??? It's a _mail_ program. I don't want it to have a huge variety of > themes - I want it to fit into my KDE desktop, which Thunderbird doesn't > do. As for plugins, I'd be surprised if it doesn't have more - it can use > any kio slave. > Install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and then Thunderbird and Firefox will use your standard KDE theme... I think thats the name of the package not quite sure! From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Oct 27 21:03:54 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:03:54 -0400 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <200510261931.37929@morrigan> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510261812.15365@morrigan> <435FF09A.5080003@verizon.net> <200510261931.37929@morrigan> Message-ID: <436140BA.4030802@verizon.net> federico wrote: >On Wednesday 26 October 2005 18:09, Art Alexion wrote: >Art Alexion escribió: > > >>Thanks. I hadn't realized that about automatic selection. Now, if I >>could only get it to send my messages instead of permanently parking >>them in the outbox..... :-( >> >> > >Have you checked in the setting window, Accounts->Sending? > >There is, in the bottom, a "Default send method". >Mine says: Send now. > >Also the other opts as I have them: > >Confirm Before send: Unchecked. >Send messages in outbox folder: Never Automatically. >( no clue, never changed it ) > >This way it works charmingly for me. > >Oh!, and try right-click on the outbox folder, >there should be a "Send queued messages" option. > >Happy kmailing ;-) > >f > > > I have all of the same settings. I confirmed that I have configured the server correctly by doing the same as I did with Thunderbird. Nonetheless, sent messages go to the outbox, and the "send queued messages" command does not seem to do anything; not even disk or network activity or an error. 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I like enigmail better that kmail's gpg handling, and, when needed, Thunderbird does HTML better. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just like the way kontact is set up. I haven't used >thunderbird in a while, but I think it probably has most of the same >components - iirc, it has a calendar, and it definitely does mail & news. >Does it do rss? > Yes, it does RSS nicely. >I doubt it does weather - but that could as easily be a >standalone app as be integrated to kontact. > Does not do weather, but you can put the weather app in the KDE panel. >The one thing thunderbird >really misses is Palm synchronization - which isn't very necessary if you >don't have a Palm. > > Palm sync is important to me. Full Mozilla does a Palm sync with the addressbook only. It just includes a addressbook conduit, but for some reason, this feature never made it into Thunderbird. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 374 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From ouch.doh at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 23:16:09 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:16:09 -0300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <436140BA.4030802@verizon.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510261931.37929@morrigan> <436140BA.4030802@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510272016.09442@morrigan> Hi, Art, On Thursday 27 October 2005 18:03, Art Alexion wrote: Art Alexion escribió: > I have all of the same settings.  I confirmed that I have configured the > server correctly by doing the same as I did with Thunderbird. What is the procedure you follow to check it? > Nonetheless, sent messages go to the outbox, and the "send queued > messages" command does not seem to do anything; not even disk or network > activity or an error. > What is you smtp config?. I use my own postifx to send mail cause some of my providers need/want me to do a pop login to allow me to relay mail. As I get all my mail with fetchmail to have it downloaded periodically with or without kmail running I wouldn't be able to send mail otherwise. Apart from that, I think my setup is fairly straightforward. > Is there a log file or source of debug information so that I can see > what is happening? No clue here , sorry. If something comes to my mind or my browser ;-) I will let you know. f From jpinscamp at peoplepc.com Tue Oct 25 23:09:03 2005 From: jpinscamp at peoplepc.com (jpinscamp at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:09:03 -0600 Subject: dialup Message-ID: <435EBB0F.10200@peoplepc.com> how do I setup for dialup in usa From ouch.doh at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 23:27:56 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:27:56 -0300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <4361425E.2090603@verizon.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5o4733-l4q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <4361425E.2090603@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510272027.56593@morrigan> On Thursday 27 October 2005 18:10, Art Alexion wrote: Art Alexion escribió: > Does not do weather, but you can put the weather app in the KDE panel. But it does ( kontact I mean, not kmail standaalone ). Settings->select components->weather. It uses the same configuration you specified to the kweather applet. I use my city's ( Montevideo, Uruguay ) station in a panel, and in the summary view have a couple more nearby stations ( there is another station a couple of kloms from Montevideo ) plus some others in the world just for fun. Today there is the same temperature in London and in Montevideo; London however is 10% more humid. ( Silly me, should get a life, eh? :-P ) f From ouch.doh at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 23:56:35 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:56:35 -0300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <200510272016.09442@morrigan> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <436140BA.4030802@verizon.net> <200510272016.09442@morrigan> Message-ID: <200510272056.35993@morrigan> Oops! I was sure it went out only once. And I have only one copy in sent-mail. Go figure. Sorry! From lionelv at gmail.com Thu Oct 27 23:43:57 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:43:57 +1000 Subject: dialup In-Reply-To: <435EBB0F.10200@peoplepc.com> References: <435EBB0F.10200@peoplepc.com> Message-ID: jpinscamp at peoplepc.com wrote: > how do I setup for dialup in usa > Install and read up on kppp From mcurley at eol.ca Fri Oct 28 03:32:08 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:32:08 -0400 Subject: Connection speed In-Reply-To: <200510261243.09273@morrigan> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510252257.16074.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510261243.09273@morrigan> Message-ID: <200510272332.08452.mcurley@eol.ca> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 11:43, federico wrote: > the main problem is my link is only 64kbps :-( sigh. > > For the last week apt-get has been telling me that > in 1d 24h xxx it will finish :-) lol > > It will finish one day or another. > > f I have high speed DSL but I have had transfers start and hang around 20 kbps and lower until I stop them and look for another mirror. However I started back in the good old days when our maximum was 300 baud modems. It took minutes to get a few messages from Compuserve and Delphi. When 33 kbps was reached I didn't think it could get any better. At 300 baud we were limited to basic files of a kb or so, and the cost of this exotic service was per minute and therefore much higher per month than I pay now. Cheers -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Fri Oct 28 03:36:20 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:36:20 -0400 Subject: File dialogs In-Reply-To: <200510261637.41526@morrigan> References: <435E3209.7090302@verizon.net> <200510261637.41526@morrigan> Message-ID: <200510272336.20363.mcurley@eol.ca> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 15:37, federico wrote: > So still downloading and now 23hs away > from breezy ( says apt-get ;-) ) . > Frederico, I think I would spend $2 US for a CD and avoid the finger chewing of -when will it stop?- Good luck -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From mcurley at eol.ca Fri Oct 28 03:43:45 2005 From: mcurley at eol.ca (Merv Curley) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:43:45 -0400 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: <435F07D6.7080208@verizon.net> References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <435F07D6.7080208@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510272343.45456.mcurley@eol.ca> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 00:36, Art Alexion wrote: > It works fine for me. It is disappointing that it doesn't do > forecasts like the gnome weather app, but mine seems to do what it > promises fine. > > What sorts of problems are you having? Well it says it can't find my city {airport}, but it can't find any city airport in N.America. So it assume that it isn't connecting to my lan and the net. My browsers, Kmail and etc all are ok. However it works on one computer which is still at the breezy pre-release. However on the computers where it doesn't work, it didn't work in Hoary either. Very strange. -- Merv Curley Toronto, Ont.Can Linux Kubuntu 5.0.4 KDE v. 3.4.2 Kontact v. 1.1.2 From tulga at netsoft.mn Fri Oct 28 06:55:22 2005 From: tulga at netsoft.mn (Tulga) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:55:22 +0800 Subject: Amarok and wav,mp3... Message-ID: <4361CB5A.4050104@netsoft.mn> Hi all! I installed kubuntu with KDE 3.5 beta2. My amarok cann't play wav and mp3 file. What I do? Regards, Tulga.G From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 28 01:14:43 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:14:43 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> <5o4733-l4q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <4361425E.2090603@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4la833-5c4.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Art Alexion wrote: (Do you think you could do something about the excessive number of blank lines your program inserts?) > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>Probably not really. >>I just like the way kontact is set up. I haven't >>used thunderbird in a while, but I think it probably has most of the same >>components - iirc, it has a calendar, and it definitely does mail & news. >>Does it do rss? > > Yes, it does RSS nicely. > >>I doubt it does weather - but that could as easily be a >>standalone app as be integrated to kontact. > > Does not do weather, but you can put the weather app in the KDE panel. Exactly - I could live without it in kontact too. imo, it's pointless. > >>The one thing thunderbird >>really misses is Palm synchronization - which isn't very necessary if you >>don't have a Palm. > > Palm sync is important to me. Full Mozilla does a Palm sync with the > addressbook only. It just includes a addressbook conduit, but for some > reason, this feature never made it into Thunderbird. Without my calendar sync, I'd be dead - probably at the hands of my wife :-). When she discovered that I could actually remember appointments, she wondered why I hadn't bought a Palm years earlier. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 28 01:15:54 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:15:54 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5o4733-l4q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <4361425E.2090603@verizon.net> <200510272027.56593@morrigan> Message-ID: federico wrote: > On Thursday 27 October 2005 18:10, Art Alexion wrote: > Art Alexion escribió: >> Does not do weather, but you can put the weather app in the KDE panel. > > But it does ( kontact I mean, not kmail standaalone ). > Settings->select components->weather. It doesn't - we were talking about what Thunderbird _doesn't_ do that kontact does. Still, we agreed that it wasn't important. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 28 01:17:43 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:17:43 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> <4360E4B4.6050908@bmts.com> Message-ID: Martin J Hooper wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> ??? It's a _mail_ program. I don't want it to have a huge variety of >> themes - I want it to fit into my KDE desktop, which Thunderbird doesn't >> do. As for plugins, I'd be surprised if it doesn't have more - it can >> use any kio slave. >> > > Install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and then Thunderbird and Firefox will use > your standard KDE theme... > It's supposed to, but I still find Firefox (which I _do_ use) to be glaringly "wrong" on my desktop. -- derek From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Oct 28 12:48:41 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:48:41 -0400 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <200510272016.09442@morrigan> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510261931.37929@morrigan> <436140BA.4030802@verizon.net> <200510272016.09442@morrigan> Message-ID: <43621E29.707@verizon.net> federico wrote: >Hi, Art, > >On Thursday 27 October 2005 18:03, Art Alexion wrote: >Art Alexion escribió: > > >>I have all of the same settings. I confirmed that I have configured the >>server correctly by doing the same as I did with Thunderbird. >> >> > >What is the procedure you follow to check it? > > I open the SMTP settings for the account in Thunderbird (because those settings are working in Thunderbird). I make sure I use the same settings in kmail. Only difference is t-bird security = use TLS, if available kmail = none ISP tell me that there is no SSL or TLS support so t-bird drops back to "none" anyway. Nonetheless I tried kmail with the TLS marked and this made no difference. FWIW, the "Check what server supports" command returns "none" for encryption, and "plain" for authentication method. T-bird does not provide setting of authentication method. One observation here. ISP tells me that its POP and SMTP authentications are the same, but POP works in kmail. Kmail POP authentication method is "Clear Text", but "Clear Text" is not a choice in the SMTP configuration. Instead "Plain" is chosen. > > >>Nonetheless, sent messages go to the outbox, and the "send queued >>messages" command does not seem to do anything; not even disk or network >>activity or an error. >> >> >> > >What is you smtp config?. > > See above. >I use my own postifx to send mail cause some of my >providers need/want me to do a pop login to allow me >to relay mail. As I get all my mail with fetchmail to have >it downloaded periodically with or without kmail running >I wouldn't be able to send mail otherwise. > > How do you do this without going through your ISP? Or do you have postfix configured for authentication? >Apart from that, I think my setup is fairly straightforward. > > > > >>Is there a log file or source of debug information so that I can see >>what is happening? >> >> > >No clue here , sorry. > >If something comes to my mind or my browser ;-) >I will let you know. > > Thanks for trying to help! >f > > > > -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In my system, your replies are squished up against the paragraph you are quoting making it difficult to distinguish. >>>The one thing thunderbird >>>really misses is Palm synchronization - which isn't very necessary if you >>>don't have a Palm. >>> >>> >>Palm sync is important to me. Full Mozilla does a Palm sync with the >>addressbook only. It just includes a addressbook conduit, but for some >>reason, this feature never made it into Thunderbird. >> >> > >Without my calendar sync, I'd be dead - probably at the hands of my >wife :-). When she discovered that I could actually remember appointments, >she wondered why I hadn't bought a Palm years earlier. > > One of the main reasons (besides spamassassin integration into kmail and kmail integration into kontact) I want to switch to kmail. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My browsers, Kmail and etc all are ok. > >However it works on one computer which is still at the breezy >pre-release. However on the computers where it doesn't work, it >didn't work in Hoary either. > >Very strange. > > Strange indeed. I was going to suggest is was breezy that was the culprit, but you say it didn't work in hoary either. Hummm... A firewall problem perhaps? What port does the weather app use? Is that port blocked in your firewall? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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I personally do not use it, or any other weather program, as environment Canada has a great web page with nicely updated weather for my town. -- Your friend, Scott http://www.bmts.com/~sclewin "No one is good at everything, but everyone is good at something" From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 28 12:44:55 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:44:55 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> <4360E4B4.6050908@bmts.com> Message-ID: <73j933-227.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Derek Broughton wrote: > Martin J Hooper wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> ??? It's a _mail_ program. I don't want it to have a huge variety of >>> themes - I want it to fit into my KDE desktop, which Thunderbird doesn't >>> do. As for plugins, I'd be surprised if it doesn't have more - it can >>> use any kio slave. >>> >> >> Install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and then Thunderbird and Firefox will use >> your standard KDE theme... >> > It's supposed to, but I still find Firefox (which I _do_ use) to be > glaringly "wrong" on my desktop. I just brought Firefox up to compare to Konqueror. The menu fonts are wrong (actually _better_ than the ones I'm seeing in Konqueror, but still not what I see in any KDE app), and the toolbar icons are much more simplistic. I expect both of those are configurable, but it really needs something that enables it to use the current KDE theme. -- derek From guido.dom at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 14:16:31 2005 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:16:31 +0200 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: <436221B8.3040801@verizon.net> References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <435F07D6.7080208@verizon.net> <200510272343.45456.mcurley@eol.ca> <436221B8.3040801@verizon.net> Message-ID: I cannot get it to work either in Kubuntu 2005/10/28, Art Alexion : > > Merv Curley wrote: > > >On Wednesday 26 October 2005 00:36, Art Alexion wrote: > > > > > > > >>It works fine for me. It is disappointing that it doesn't do > >>forecasts like the gnome weather app, but mine seems to do what it > >>promises fine. > >> > >>What sorts of problems are you having? > >> > >> > > > >Well it says it can't find my city {airport}, but it can't find any > >city airport in N.America. So it assume that it isn't connecting to > >my lan and the net. My browsers, Kmail and etc all are ok. > > > >However it works on one computer which is still at the breezy > >pre-release. However on the computers where it doesn't work, it > >didn't work in Hoary either. > > > >Very strange. > > > > > > Strange indeed. I was going to suggest is was breezy that was the > culprit, but you say it didn't work in hoary either. Hummm... A > firewall problem perhaps? What port does the weather app use? Is that > port blocked in your firewall? > > > > -- > > _______________________________________ > Art Alexion > Arthur S. Alexion LLC > > PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A > The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for > alarm. > Info @ > http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html > > Key for signed PDFs available at > http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c > The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. > ________________________________________ > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Fax +31 (0)84 722 2075 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (Dom) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ouch.doh at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 16:14:37 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:14:37 -0300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <43621E29.707@verizon.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510272016.09442@morrigan> <43621E29.707@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510281314.38224@morrigan> On Friday 28 October 2005 09:48, Art Alexion wrote: Art Alexion escribió: > How do you do this without going through your ISP?  Or do you have > postfix configured for authentication? Nope, postfix just relays my mail directly "out" my box, skipping the ISP altogether. f From ouch.doh at gmail.com Fri Oct 28 16:20:10 2005 From: ouch.doh at gmail.com (federico) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:20:10 -0300 Subject: kmail questions In-Reply-To: <43621EDA.5070505@verizon.net> References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510272027.56593@morrigan> <43621EDA.5070505@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510281320.10248@morrigan> On Friday 28 October 2005 09:51, Art Alexion wrote: Art Alexion escribió: > I was referring to Thunderbird as that was what I thought the question > was: does Thunderbird do weather like Kontact does? Oops my wrong. From martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Oct 28 15:18:27 2005 From: martinjh at blueyonder.co.uk (Martin J Hooper) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:18:27 +0100 Subject: Amarok and wav,mp3... In-Reply-To: <4361CB5A.4050104@netsoft.mn> References: <4361CB5A.4050104@netsoft.mn> Message-ID: Tulga wrote: > Hi all! > > I installed kubuntu with KDE 3.5 beta2. My amarok cann't play wav and > mp3 file. What I do? > > Regards, > Tulga.G > To play mp3 install gstreamer0.8-mad after enabling the Universe repo in /etc/sources.list From ebarsic at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 28 16:10:15 2005 From: ebarsic at sbcglobal.net (Eric B) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:10:15 -0500 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051028105612.01c37070@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> Before I start, please forgive odd formatting... not sure how to quote HTML in Eudora. I'm using my windows machine to send this. I wanted to take a look at kweather. So I did some configuration and playing around. First off I wanted to know what a METAR was and what the codes were: The following is quoted from: http://www.weather-watch.com/ >METAR stands for Meteorological Airport Report. METARs are a letter >indicating region and then three letters indicating location as >assigned by the International Civil Aviation Organization >http://www.icao.intl . Some of the more common regions are >CXXX- Canada >EXXX- Northern Europe >KXXX- United States >A list of worldwide METARs with such information as longitude, >latitude, elevation, etc.... can be found >http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/metars/stations.txt and >http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml. >For much more information about METARs Federal Meteorological >Handbook http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/fmh1.htm I Checked out the sites listed and discovered that kweather wants the ICAO 4 character ID (3rd column) as the argument. In other words, to get data from Los Angeles international, you use the command: kweather klax Interestingly enough, it seems like many of my local, Indiana, USA METARs are "broken". They are reporting that they "need maintenance." I plan on doing more research on this. I hope this information helps some folks out there trying to use kweather. Eric From ebarsic at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 28 16:13:01 2005 From: ebarsic at sbcglobal.net (Eric B) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:13:01 -0500 Subject: kweather configuration help Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051028111143.01c28f68@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> Forgive and ignore last message, left it un-subjected by mistake, realized just after I clicked on send. Before I start, please forgive odd formatting... not sure how to quote HTML in Eudora. I'm using my windows machine to send this. I wanted to take a look at kweather. So I did some configuration and playing around. First off I wanted to know what a METAR was and what the codes were: The following is quoted from: http://www.weather-watch.com/ >METAR stands for Meteorological Airport Report. METARs are a letter >indicating region and then three letters indicating location as >assigned by the International Civil Aviation Organization >http://www.icao.intl . Some of the more common regions are >CXXX- Canada >EXXX- Northern Europe >KXXX- United States >A list of worldwide METARs with such information as longitude, >latitude, elevation, etc.... can be found >http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/metars/stations.txt and >http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml. >For much more information about METARs Federal Meteorological >Handbook http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/fmh1.htm I Checked out the sites listed and discovered that kweather wants the ICAO 4 character ID (3rd column) as the argument. In other words, to get data from Los Angeles international, you use the command: kweather klax Interestingly enough, it seems like many of my local, Indiana, USA METARs are "broken". They are reporting that they "need maintenance." I plan on doing more research on this. I hope this information helps some folks out there trying to use kweather. Eric From kaganreuben at yandex.ru Fri Oct 28 16:27:07 2005 From: kaganreuben at yandex.ru (Reuben Kagan) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:27:07 +0400 (MSD) Subject: AmaroK visuailsation In-Reply-To: References: <4361CB5A.4050104@netsoft.mn> Message-ID: <4362515B.000004.18757@ariel.yandex.ru> As it seems now, amarok is one of the hottest things here in Kubuntu world, and so strange to see that visualisation is not working out of the box. It says it needs libvisual. I cannot found it in repositories, so I've tried to compile it, no avail -- some errorr during make. What else could I do to enable it? From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 28 17:01:33 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:01:33 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <200510261931.37929@morrigan> <436140BA.4030802@verizon.net> <200510272016.09442@morrigan> <43621E29.707@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > federico wrote: > >>On Thursday 27 October 2005 18:03, Art Alexion wrote: >>Art Alexion escribió: >> >>>I have all of the same settings. I confirmed that I have configured the >>>server correctly by doing the same as I did with Thunderbird. >>> > I open the SMTP settings for the account in Thunderbird (because those > settings are working in Thunderbird). I make sure I use the same > settings in kmail. Only difference is > > t-bird security = use TLS, if available > kmail = none I'm not sure this matters. I've been trying to use "none" for the last couple of days to debug a problem on one of my servers, and it appears that if the server advertises TLS, kmail will use TLS. I _could_ be wrong about that, because I'm not certain I'm doing things correctly :-) > > ISP tell me that there is no SSL or TLS support My ISP tells me that too - they lie. In fact, they support SSL and their server advertises TLS (but they haven't bothered to get a valid certificate for it). >>>Is there a log file or source of debug information so that I can see >>>what is happening? >> >>No clue here , sorry. No. The only advice I've ever seen is "install ethereal". I did that yesterday, and I still don't know what I'm seeing :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 28 16:45:40 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:45:40 -0300 Subject: kweather References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <435F07D6.7080208@verizon.net> <200510272343.45456.mcurley@eol.ca> <436221B8.3040801@verizon.net> Message-ID: guido dom wrote: > I cannot get it to work either in Kubuntu > It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. It always works from home, but some days it doesn't work from my client's site. Sometimes it just can't connect, others I get partial data (at which times it usually says it's 0C - which is annoying, because it isn't that cold, yet!) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 28 16:42:37 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:42:37 -0300 Subject: kmail questions References: <435FD89C.9070706@verizon.net> <5k6533-lqf.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <435FF475.3070602@verizon.net> <43600084.3040108@bellsouth.net> <5o4733-l4q.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <4361425E.2090603@verizon.net> <4la833-5c4.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <43622046.3090000@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>Art Alexion wrote: >> >>(Do you think you could do something about the excessive number of blank >>lines your program inserts?) >> > Actually, I put them in manually in order to make my posts more readable > by more visibly distinguishing a quote from a reply. In my system, your > replies are squished up against the paragraph you are quoting making it > difficult to distinguish. I always leave _one_ blank. Anything more is just a waste of space. To each his own... :-) -- derek From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Oct 28 18:06:58 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:06:58 -0400 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <435F07D6.7080208@verizon.net> <200510272343.45456.mcurley@eol.ca> <436221B8.3040801@verizon.net> Message-ID: <436268C2.1030209@verizon.net> Derek Broughton wrote: >guido dom wrote: > > > >>I cannot get it to work either in Kubuntu >> >> >> > >It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. It always works from >home, but some days it doesn't work from my client's site. Sometimes it >just can't connect, others I get partial data (at which times it usually >says it's 0C - which is annoying, because it isn't that cold, yet!) > > OK, you guys jinxed me. :-( Kweather was working fine until an hour ago when my closest station "reported that it was undergoing maintenance". I had to switch to one about 20 miles away. That one seems to be working. 8-) -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My current ISP rarely changes my ip, but some others change it in a regular basis. Most ISPs will reject the mail if you have a non-resolvable name. There are some subnets owned by ISPs and used for dialup or DSL, etc, that are blacklisted by - for example - Hotmail as they are known spam sources. We, as a small southamerican country, apparently haven't produced enough spam to be banned yet :-D Of course you should have port 25 open and if the postfix server runs in a machine that is not the firewall, you should forward the port to that host ( the one that runs postfix, that is ). Here is a transcription of a test mail's headers. Notice that my dynamic domain name is the source of the mail and a return-path header is added. Return-Path: Received: from smtp-s2.antel.net.uy (192.168.2.2) by be02.in.adinet.com.uy (7.2.068.1) id 43605D430006EF0B for tulkas at adinet.com.uy; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:49:52 -0200 Received: from pragmagica.mine.nu (200.108.255.118) by smtp-s2.antel.net.uy (7.2.068.1) id 4360584900088732 for tulkas at adinet.com.uy; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:49:52 -0200 Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by pragmagica.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6767E58C43 for ; Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:48:50 -0300 (UYT) From: federico To: tulkas at adinet.com.uy Hope this helps. f -------------- next part -------------- # See /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, more complete version smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) biff = no # appending .domain is the MUA's job. append_dot_mydomain = no # Uncomment the next line to generate "delayed mail" warnings #delay_warning_time = 4h myhostname = pragmagica.mine.nu alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases myorigin = /etc/mailname mydestination = localhost.localdomain, localhost, morrigan, pragmagica.mine.nu relayhost = relay_domains = $mydestination #mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 mynetworks_style = host mailbox_size_limit = 0 recipient_delimiter = + inet_interfaces = all From ralphdewitt at charter.net Fri Oct 28 20:32:37 2005 From: ralphdewitt at charter.net (Ralph De Witt) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 13:32:37 -0700 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: <436268C2.1030209@verizon.net> References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <436268C2.1030209@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200510281332.46932.ralphdewitt@charter.net> On Friday 28 October 2005 11:06 am, Art Alexion wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >guido dom wrote: > >>I cannot get it to work either in Kubuntu > > > >It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. It always works > > from home, but some days it doesn't work from my client's site. > > Sometimes it just can't connect, others I get partial data (at which > > times it usually says it's 0C - which is annoying, because it isn't that > > cold, yet!) > > OK, you guys jinxed me. :-( > > Kweather was working fine until an hour ago when my closest station > "reported that it was undergoing maintenance". I had to switch to one > about 20 miles away. That one seems to be working. 8-) Art: That is no jinx. Kweather is working fine. I just means that the station is down for maintenance. It happens all the time. -- Yours, Ralph. 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Jonathan From jbyrne at frontbridge.com Fri Oct 28 22:21:37 2005 From: jbyrne at frontbridge.com (Jonathan Byrne) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 15:21:37 -0700 Subject: Gamin question Message-ID: <200510281521.37583.jbyrne@frontbridge.com> For about 3 days now, a process named gam_server has been consuming over 95% CPU. The system remains fairly responsive despite this, but I don't know exactly what gam_server is supposed to do and why it needs so much CPU to do it. It appears to be undocumented, and googling didn't yield much in the way of its job except that it's "a file and directory alteration monitor." Is this for intrusion detection purposes, or something else? Do I really need it, and what will happen if remove it? TIA, Jonathan From john at nosuitsit.com Sat Oct 29 10:24:53 2005 From: john at nosuitsit.com (John) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:24:53 +0100 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> Message-ID: <200510291124.53566.john@nosuitsit.com> On Friday 28 October 2005 17:45, Derek Broughton wrote: > It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. Following on from Derek, mine works fine as well. However, I am still using Hoary and the list of stations appears limited. When I chosen Configure KWeather, then Weather Service, I get a list of available stations. These are all cities and not ICAO codes. For example Canada, Ontario has just one listing for Totonto. Looking at /usr/share/apps/kweatherservice I find the stations.dat file lists CYKZ Toronto Buttonville CYTZ Toronto Island Airport CYYZ Toronto Pearson Int'L First Toronto Downsview at CYZD appears to be missing, but I guess I could always add that in to the file if required. (I am using Toronto as an example because the original poster mentioned it.) What I want to know is how to chose between the stations? The older version of KWeather let you enter the ICAO codes. Does Breezy let you do this? John From ian at themagictree.co.uk Sat Oct 29 15:01:12 2005 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:01:12 +0100 Subject: AmaroK visuailsation In-Reply-To: <20051028212916.GF25335@muse.19inch.net> References: <4361CB5A.4050104@netsoft.mn> <4362515B.000004.18757@ariel.yandex.ru> <20051028212916.GF25335@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <43638EB8.4080704@themagictree.co.uk> Jonathan Riddell wrote: >On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 08:27:07PM +0400, Reuben Kagan wrote: > > >>As it seems now, amarok is one of the hottest things here in Kubuntu world, and so strange to see that visualisation is not working out of the box. It says it needs libvisual. I cannot found it in repositories, so I've tried to compile it, no avail -- some errorr during make. >>What else could I do to enable it? >> >> > >libvisual has been packaged as has amarok to use it, they will be in >dapper. Quite possibly they'll be in breezy-backports before long. > >Jonathan > > > I had the same problem, until I installed the xmms visualisations (xmms-blursk, xmms-goom, xmms-jess etc), which AmaroK picks up nicely. Goom is (btw) simply amazing! -- Ian From golfbuf at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 15:10:28 2005 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:10:28 -0400 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: <200510291124.53566.john@nosuitsit.com> References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510291124.53566.john@nosuitsit.com> Message-ID: <835a7820510290810q5ba7984byac05625f324a255f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/05, John wrote: > On Friday 28 October 2005 17:45, Derek Broughton wrote: > > It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. > > Following on from Derek, mine works fine as well. > > However, I am still using Hoary and the list of stations appears limited. > When I chosen Configure KWeather, then Weather Service, I get a list of > available stations. These are all cities and not ICAO codes. > For example Canada, Ontario has just one listing for Totonto. > > Looking at /usr/share/apps/kweatherservice I find the stations.dat file lists > > CYKZ Toronto Buttonville > CYTZ Toronto Island Airport > CYYZ Toronto Pearson Int'L > > First Toronto Downsview at CYZD appears to be missing, but I guess I could > always add that in to the file if required. > > (I am using Toronto as an example because the original poster mentioned it.) > > What I want to know is how to chose between the stations? > > The older version of KWeather let you enter the ICAO codes. Does Breezy let > you do this? > > John > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Mine also is tempermental. It occasionally adds an empty city to the list and selects it as the default, then complains it can't get an update and shows weather from Dec 2002. But, just now I was able to add a city and select it as default, and it's working. It's a goofy bug. Probably, best advice is don't give up on it .. it may correct itself like mine did. I'm not sure whether a reboot makes a difference, but I just happened to between these errors. regards, From prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca Sat Oct 29 19:13:13 2005 From: prsmith at ns.sympatico.ca (Betti Ann & Preston Smith) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:13:13 -0300 Subject: User profiles In-Reply-To: <435FD69F.50202@verizon.net> References: <435F6449.4010809@ns.sympatico.ca> <435FD69F.50202@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4363C9C9.5030809@ns.sympatico.ca> Thank you Art and others who responded. These URLs give excellent instructions on how to manage profiles - http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile and http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/profile Under Kubuntu, I noticed if I have one of these applications running and try to start a second instance of it, the profile manager would appear. I then 'created' a new profile and pointed it to the appropriate *.default profile sub directory in XP. Works like a charm Guess there are many ways to do each task Thanks again Now I have to try to find a way to install my new HP 2610 Multi-purpose printer, scanner, fax, and copier. Onward! Ever upwards! Preston Art Alexion said the following on 26/10/05 04:18 PM: > I can think of two (alternative) things to try. > > 1. At the file system level on the Linux system, create a symbolic > link to the current profile directory on the fat32 partition. > Note the name of the default profile directory on the Linux > installation. Delete (or for safety as this is an experiment, > rename) the default profile directory on the Linux system. Rename > the symbolic link as the original name of the default profile > directory. Never tried this, but it should redirect the calls to > the default Linux profiles to the default win32 profiles. > 2. At the configuration level. Install the about:config extensions > as needed to Firefox and Thunderbird. Change the profile > directories as needed. > > From guido.dom at gmail.com Sat Oct 29 20:21:46 2005 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:21:46 +0200 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: <835a7820510290810q5ba7984byac05625f324a255f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510291124.53566.john@nosuitsit.com> <835a7820510290810q5ba7984byac05625f324a255f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I found (by searching in the Kontact menu's where to read the weathermessages KWeather works ok now 2005/10/29, golfer : > > On 10/29/05, John wrote: > > On Friday 28 October 2005 17:45, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. > > > > Following on from Derek, mine works fine as well. > > > > However, I am still using Hoary and the list of stations appears > limited. > > When I chosen Configure KWeather, then Weather Service, I get a list of > > available stations. These are all cities and not ICAO codes. > > For example Canada, Ontario has just one listing for Totonto. > > > > Looking at /usr/share/apps/kweatherservice I find the stations.dat file > lists > > > > CYKZ Toronto Buttonville > > CYTZ Toronto Island Airport > > CYYZ Toronto Pearson Int'L > > > > First Toronto Downsview at CYZD appears to be missing, but I guess I > could > > always add that in to the file if required. > > > > (I am using Toronto as an example because the original poster mentioned > it.) > > > > What I want to know is how to chose between the stations? > > > > The older version of KWeather let you enter the ICAO codes. Does Breezy > let > > you do this? > > > > John > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > Mine also is tempermental. It occasionally adds an empty city to the > list and selects it as the default, then complains it can't get an > update and shows weather from Dec 2002. But, just now I was able to > add a city and select it as default, and it's working. It's a goofy > bug. > > Probably, best advice is don't give up on it .. it may correct itself > like mine did. I'm not sure whether a reboot makes a difference, but > I just happened to between these errors. > > regards, > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Fax +31 (0)84 722 2075 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (Dom) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From golfbuf at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 03:16:12 2005 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:16:12 -0400 Subject: katapult howto? In-Reply-To: <435F7BF0.5020705@akl.lt> References: <835a7820510221809o76200da4o51ebb62f4ab7009d@mail.gmail.com> <200510241943.44133.joantur@cancullet.org> <435DF21F.9090702@akl.lt> <200510252241.57541.joantur@cancullet.org> <435F7BF0.5020705@akl.lt> Message-ID: <835a7820510292016x7f738aaao5afa8579a76ae076@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/05, Donatas G. wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Martin J Hooper ra??: > > Is it in the repos anywhere or will I have to compile and install manually? > > > > > katapult is definitely in breezy, not sure about backport to warty. It > is also part of metapackage kubuntu-desktop. Yes, it's pretty cool isn't it. apt-cache shows these home pages: Homepages: http://sourceforge.net/projects/katapult https://developer.berlios.de/projects/kubuntupult/ regards, From golfbuf at gmail.com Sun Oct 30 03:19:45 2005 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:19:45 -0400 Subject: knemo and kded problems. In-Reply-To: <200510211819.24465.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> References: <43585C42.2070605@gmail.com> <200510211819.24465.obsidion@xtra.co.nz> Message-ID: <835a7820510292019x77842f91q7bbc8b637bbaf191@mail.gmail.com> On 10/21/05, David A' Rebel wrote: > On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:10, Scott wrote: > > I happened upon Knemo in the Universe repository recently and I thought > > I'd give it a try. > > > > That was a big mistake. It relies on some part of kdelibs called "kded" > > and it eats memory like it's going out of style. > > > > At one point it's usage was over 1GB. I found out when my computer was > > crawling. I looked at the process table and found the culprit. > > > > I tried restarting only to find it was chowing down on memory again so I > > killed Knemo and uninstalled it. > > > > kded is behaving now. > > > > I wish this could be fixed somehow. > > > > Has anyone else had a similar experience? > I used it for a while and had no such problem. I finally built kmodemlights-0.7 (from kde-apps/tools) and prefer it, so stopped using knemo. But, I had no memory problems with it on breezy. regards, From boonchintan at rocketmail.com Sun Oct 30 04:05:07 2005 From: boonchintan at rocketmail.com (tan boon chin) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <20051030040507.90658.qmail@web60420.mail.yahoo.com> Ps, remove me form the list. __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From boonchintan at rocketmail.com Sun Oct 30 04:05:41 2005 From: boonchintan at rocketmail.com (tan boon chin) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: remove me from the kubuntu list Message-ID: <20051030040541.20830.qmail@web60415.mail.yahoo.com> Ps, remove me from the list. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From tim at penhey.net Sun Oct 30 07:11:23 2005 From: tim at penhey.net (Tim Penhey) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 08:11:23 +0100 Subject: remove me from the kubuntu list In-Reply-To: <20051030040541.20830.qmail@web60415.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051030040541.20830.qmail@web60415.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200510300711.23631.tim@penhey.net> On Sunday 30 October 2005 04:05, tan boon chin wrote: > Ps, remove me from the list. You have to remove yourself. See the URL at the bottom of every email you get... kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users There is an entry field there to put your email address into to unsubscribe. Tim From philmullane at earthlink.net Sun Oct 30 17:03:26 2005 From: philmullane at earthlink.net (Phil Mullane) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:03:26 -0800 Subject: kweather References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca><200510291124.53566.john@nosuitsit.com><835a7820510290810q5ba7984byac05625f324a255f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002401c5dd73$da895ce0$0300a8c0@MAINCOMPUTER> To All-- I am about to unsubscribe just because of the sheer volume of mail I am getting. However, before I go, I want to thank you all for all the help you have been and all I have learned. I now have a double setup of Kubuntu 5.10 and SuSE 10.0, and they both work GREAT! Linux is the best. Who needs MS anymore! Thanks, Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: guido dom To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: kweather I found (by searching in the Kontact menu's where to read the weathermessages KWeather works ok now 2005/10/29, golfer : On 10/29/05, John wrote: > On Friday 28 October 2005 17:45, Derek Broughton wrote: > > It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. > > Following on from Derek, mine works fine as well. > > However, I am still using Hoary and the list of stations appears limited. > When I chosen Configure KWeather, then Weather Service, I get a list of > available stations. These are all cities and not ICAO codes. > For example Canada, Ontario has just one listing for Totonto. > > Looking at /usr/share/apps/kweatherservice I find the stations.dat file lists > > CYKZ Toronto Buttonville > CYTZ Toronto Island Airport > CYYZ Toronto Pearson Int'L > > First Toronto Downsview at CYZD appears to be missing, but I guess I could > always add that in to the file if required. > > (I am using Toronto as an example because the original poster mentioned it.) > > What I want to know is how to chose between the stations? > > The older version of KWeather let you enter the ICAO codes. Does Breezy let > you do this? > > John > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Mine also is tempermental. It occasionally adds an empty city to the list and selects it as the default, then complains it can't get an update and shows weather from Dec 2002. But, just now I was able to add a city and select it as default, and it's working. It's a goofy bug. Probably, best advice is don't give up on it .. it may correct itself like mine did. I'm not sure whether a reboot makes a difference, but I just happened to between these errors. regards, -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Fax +31 (0)84 722 2075 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (Dom) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It always works >>>from home, but some days it doesn't work from my client's site. >>>Sometimes it just can't connect, others I get partial data (at which >>>times it usually says it's 0C - which is annoying, because it isn't that >>>cold, yet!) >>> >>> >>OK, you guys jinxed me. :-( >> >>Kweather was working fine until an hour ago when my closest station >>"reported that it was undergoing maintenance". I had to switch to one >>about 20 miles away. That one seems to be working. 8-) >> >> >Art: >That is no jinx. Kweather is working fine. I just means that the station is >down for maintenance. It happens all the time. > > I figured that. It was just that I had no problems at all until I started following this thread.... :-) -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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Jonathan From angrykeyboarder at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 31 06:29:45 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:29:45 -0700 Subject: AmaroK visuailsation In-Reply-To: <43638EB8.4080704@themagictree.co.uk> References: <4361CB5A.4050104@netsoft.mn> <4362515B.000004.18757@ariel.yandex.ru> <20051028212916.GF25335@muse.19inch.net> <43638EB8.4080704@themagictree.co.uk> Message-ID: <4365B9D9.4030607@angrykeyboarder.com> On 10/29/2005 08:01 AM, Ian Rose wrote: > Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 08:27:07PM +0400, Reuben Kagan wrote: >> >> >>> As it seems now, amarok is one of the hottest things here in Kubuntu >>> world, and so strange to see that visualisation is not working out >>> of the box. It says it needs libvisual. I cannot found it in >>> repositories, so I've tried to compile it, no avail -- some errorr >>> during make. >>> What else could I do to enable it? >> >> >> libvisual has been packaged as has amarok to use it, they will be in >> dapper. Quite possibly they'll be in breezy-backports before long. >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> > I had the same problem, until I installed the xmms visualisations > (xmms-blursk, xmms-goom, xmms-jess etc), which AmaroK picks up nicely. > Goom is (btw) simply amazing! > It almost makes me I'll that amaroK and a few other apps rely on XMMS. --- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2005 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From angrykeyboarder at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 31 06:32:41 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:32:41 -0700 Subject: kweather configuration help In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051028111143.01c28f68@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051028111143.01c28f68@pop.sbcglobal.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4365BA89.8070003@angrykeyboarder.com> On 10/28/2005 09:13 AM, Eric B wrote: > Forgive and ignore last message, left it un-subjected by mistake, > realized just after I clicked on send. > > > Before I start, please forgive odd formatting... not sure how to quote > HTML in Eudora. I'm using my windows machine to send this. > > I wanted to take a look at kweather. So I did some configuration and > playing around. > > First off I wanted to know what a METAR was and what the codes were: > The following is quoted from: http://www.weather-watch.com/ > >> METAR stands for Meteorological Airport Report. METARs are a letter >> indicating region and then three letters indicating location as >> assigned by the International Civil Aviation Organization >> http://www.icao.intl . Some of the more common regions are >> CXXX- Canada >> EXXX- Northern Europe >> KXXX- United States >> A list of worldwide METARs with such information as longitude, >> latitude, elevation, etc.... can be found >> http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/metars/stations.txt and >> http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml. >> For much more information about METARs Federal Meteorological >> Handbook http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/fmh1.htm > > > I Checked out the sites listed and discovered that kweather wants the > ICAO 4 character ID (3rd column) as the argument. > In other words, to get data from Los Angeles international, you use > the command: kweather klax > > Interestingly enough, it seems like many of my local, Indiana, USA > METARs are "broken". They are reporting that they "need maintenance." > I plan on doing more research on this. > > I hope this information helps some folks out there trying to use > kweather. > > Eric > > I've had this problem previously. Kweather is a tad buggy but with a little convincing those stations that "need maintenance" can be made to work. It just took some toying around with the settings. -- --- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2005 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From angrykeyboarder at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 31 06:38:37 2005 From: angrykeyboarder at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:38:37 -0700 Subject: Best media player? In-Reply-To: References: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> <200510262231.42859.meldroc@frii.com> Message-ID: <4365BBED.3070007@angrykeyboarder.com> On 10/26/2005 09:39 PM, Lionel wrote: > Doug Holland wrote: > >> On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:26 pm, Tulga wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I am using Kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5 beta 2. I want play mpg, avi >>> files. >>> Which player best? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tulga.G >> >> >> >> I'd recommend both xine and mplayer. Kaffeine's a good KDE front end >> to the xine engine, I use it a lot. You'll probably want to get the >> w32 codecs as well, though I don't know where to download them these >> days since the (K)ubuntu people can't legally distribute them... > > > I agree with mplayer, it's by far the best. > > Why does every one love a butt-ugly (circa 1998) GTK1 app so much? Go with Kaffeine. If that's not enough then get VLC. -- --- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2005 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From lionelv at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 06:58:00 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:58:00 +1000 Subject: Best media player? In-Reply-To: <4365BBED.3070007@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> <200510262231.42859.meldroc@frii.com> <4365BBED.3070007@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: Scott wrote: > On 10/26/2005 09:39 PM, Lionel wrote: > > >>Doug Holland wrote: >> >> >>>On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:26 pm, Tulga wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi all >>>> >>>>I am using Kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5 beta 2. I want play mpg, avi >>>>files. >>>>Which player best? >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Tulga.G >>> >>> >>> >>>I'd recommend both xine and mplayer. Kaffeine's a good KDE front end >>>to the xine engine, I use it a lot. You'll probably want to get the >>>w32 codecs as well, though I don't know where to download them these >>>days since the (K)ubuntu people can't legally distribute them... >> >> >>I agree with mplayer, it's by far the best. >> >> > > Why does every one love a butt-ugly (circa 1998) GTK1 app so much? > > Go with Kaffeine. If that's not enough then get VLC. I don't know how anyone can use Kaffeine . . . I haven't yet managed to install VLC (I haven't tried on Kubuntu yet). MPlayer is great and tends to work easily on everything. Lionel. From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Oct 31 13:20:41 2005 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:20:41 -0500 Subject: kweather In-Reply-To: <835a7820510290810q5ba7984byac05625f324a255f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200510252131.38400.mcurley@eol.ca> <200510291124.53566.john@nosuitsit.com> <835a7820510290810q5ba7984byac05625f324a255f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43661A29.5050302@verizon.net> golfer wrote: >On 10/29/05, John wrote: > > >>On Friday 28 October 2005 17:45, Derek Broughton wrote: >> >> >>>It works for me, but it seems a little temperamental. >>> >>> >>Following on from Derek, mine works fine as well. >> >>However, I am still using Hoary and the list of stations appears limited. >>When I chosen Configure KWeather, then Weather Service, I get a list of >>available stations. These are all cities and not ICAO codes. >>For example Canada, Ontario has just one listing for Totonto. >> >>Looking at /usr/share/apps/kweatherservice I find the stations.dat file lists >> >>CYKZ Toronto Buttonville >>CYTZ Toronto Island Airport >>CYYZ Toronto Pearson Int'L >> >>First Toronto Downsview at CYZD appears to be missing, but I guess I could >>always add that in to the file if required. >> >>(I am using Toronto as an example because the original poster mentioned it.) >> >>What I want to know is how to chose between the stations? >> >>The older version of KWeather let you enter the ICAO codes. Does Breezy let >>you do this? >> >> OK. Somehow this worked. I ran cat /usr/share/apps/kweatherservice/stations.dat | grep Philadelphia and found that the station nearest me (Wings Field) was not appearing on the country-city tree of the configuration dialog. I noted the code as KLOM. So I ran kweatherreport KLOM and got a station down for maintenance report. Next I went to the kweather configuration dialog and KLOM was now listed as one of my selected stations on the weather service tab, and Wings Field appeared as one of my choices in the drop down of the display tab. I am hoping that the station is truly down for maintenance and that this actually worked. It seems the version we are using is broken because it only allows choosing the first (alphabetical) station in any given city that has multiple stations. I tried to fix this by editing stations.dat to give Wings Field the city "Blue Bell" which is more accurate than Philadelphia and should have created a unique entry under United States - Pennsylvania. That didn't work even when I exited and restarted the panel app. -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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In-Reply-To: <4365BBED.3070007@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <436056D9.1090603@netsoft.mn> <200510262231.42859.meldroc@frii.com> <4365BBED.3070007@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <43661B43.7020908@verizon.net> Scott wrote: >On 10/26/2005 09:39 PM, Lionel wrote: > > > >>Doug Holland wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:26 pm, Tulga wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi all >>>> >>>>I am using Kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5 beta 2. I want play mpg, avi >>>>files. >>>>Which player best? >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Tulga.G >>>> >>>> >>> >>>I'd recommend both xine and mplayer. Kaffeine's a good KDE front end >>>to the xine engine, I use it a lot. You'll probably want to get the >>>w32 codecs as well, though I don't know where to download them these >>>days since the (K)ubuntu people can't legally distribute them... >>> >>> >>I agree with mplayer, it's by far the best. >> >> >> >> >Why does every one love a butt-ugly (circa 1998) GTK1 app so much? > >Go with Kaffeine. If that's not enough then get VLC. > > > mplayer seems to work about 1/3 of the time for me. How do I get konqueror and Firefox to use kaffeine instead? And can it handle movies embedded in a page the way mplayer sometimes does? -- _______________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment -- signature.asc -- is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html Key for signed PDFs available at http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/ArthurSAlexion.p7c The validation string is TTJY-ZILJ-BJJG. ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My server sits (according to the windows client) on port 1667, and Kontact tries to connect using an https://<>:1667/soap URL (when trying to update the calendar), but Kontact sits idly waiting for a reply. The e-mail account doesn't even show up any folder or anything. 3.- Is there an easy way to authenticate to the Novell Netware servers from Kubuntu? I am not familiar with Novell at all, so if you find that I'm missing some information on that respect, please ask for it, and I'll try to gather it. Many thanks! José From toddyarling at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 16:38:07 2005 From: toddyarling at gmail.com (Todd Yarling) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:38:07 -0500 Subject: where are konqys file options? Message-ID: When I upgraded to breey, and I click on the konqy button in the kuickstart thingee, gone are the menu options for like "Window", where you can splt the window and such, and also the icons for changing from list to detail view. This must be webview or something, how do I get the options to be there when I click on the starter button? Also, when I click on a link in kontact or konversation, a text copy of the link is opened up in /var/temp, instead of konqy opening up the actual webpage. This didn't used to happen in previous distros I have used, but it seems to be hardwired into kubuntu, how to fox? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Mon Oct 31 16:57:10 2005 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:57:10 +0000 Subject: mounting hdd Message-ID: <200510311657.11633.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> I have a bog standard setup of kubuntu. I wish to read from a second hdd which has a corrupted windows registry. If I mount it, read files and then unmaount it will it still spin if I leave it in a a slave? My first posting here. Coming straight from Windows I am quite pleased with the package (5.04 I think) but cannot get knode to honour my "x-no header yes " line. Also print sharing with my wife's pc has me fooled at present, I have a colour printer, she has the laser printer. Ah now I see I have a message that Ispell/aspell is not in my path, so I guess I need to load a spell checker too! AJH From jriddell at ubuntu.com Mon Oct 31 17:36:40 2005 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:36:40 +0000 Subject: [kubuntu-users] where are konqys file options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20051031173640.GA25335@muse.19inch.net> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 11:38:07AM -0500, Todd Yarling wrote: > > When I upgraded to breey, and I click on the konqy button in the > kuickstart thingee, gone are the menu options for like "Window", where > you can splt the window and such, and also the icons for changing from > list to detail view. See kubuntu.org/faq.php for how to remove the simplified konqueror. I'll probably add back the Window options for breezy since a surprising number of people seem to use them. > Also, when I click on a link in kontact or konversation, a text copy > of the link is opened up in /var/temp, instead of konqy opening up the > actual webpage. This didn't used to happen in previous distros I have > used, but it seems to be hardwired into kubuntu, how to fox? Sounds like a bug, please report. Jonathan From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 31 18:16:49 2005 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 14:16:49 -0400 Subject: mounting hdd References: <200510311657.11633.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: andrew wrote: > My first posting here. Coming straight from Windows I am quite pleased > with the package (5.04 I think) but cannot get knode to honour my "x-no > header yes " line. What do you mean? What _should_ it do? "X-no header" would be, by definition, a non-standard header. I wouldn't expect anybody else's client to "honour" it - they can choose to. Also, you imply that it's something you enter in the body of the message and the only "header" I've seen that has any likelihood of working is the "X-noarchive" line that Google honours (and don't count on anybody else who archives your message checking for it). It's possible to configure both the headers that are displayed (within limits) and the headers that are sent (no limits!) but you'd need to tell us what you really want to do (preferably in a new thread so that it isn't related to mounting an HD). -- derek From guido.dom at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 19:42:17 2005 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:42:17 +0100 Subject: dvd playing Message-ID: I cannot play commercial DVD's with Kaffeine, nor wth XMMS not with noatun Is there a solution? -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Fax +31 (0)84 722 2075 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (Dom) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toddyarling at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 20:54:52 2005 From: toddyarling at gmail.com (Todd Yarling) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:54:52 -0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] where are konqys file options? In-Reply-To: <20051031173640.GA25335@muse.19inch.net> References: <20051031173640.GA25335@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: done thanks On 10/31/05, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 11:38:07AM -0500, Todd Yarling wrote: > > > > When I upgraded to breey, and I click on the konqy button in the > > kuickstart thingee, gone are the menu options for like "Window", where > > you can splt the window and such, and also the icons for changing from > > list to detail view. > > See kubuntu.org/faq.php for how to remove the > simplified konqueror. > I'll probably add back the Window options for breezy since a > surprising number of people seem to use them. > > > Also, when I click on a link in kontact or konversation, a text copy > > of the link is opened up in /var/temp, instead of konqy opening up the > > actual webpage. This didn't used to happen in previous distros I have > > used, but it seems to be hardwired into kubuntu, how to fox? > > Sounds like a bug, please report. > > Jonathan > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From list at loampitsfarm.co.uk Mon Oct 31 22:45:19 2005 From: list at loampitsfarm.co.uk (andrew) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:45:19 +0000 Subject: X-Headers In-Reply-To: References: <200510311657.11633.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> Message-ID: <200510312245.19947.list@loampitsfarm.co.uk> On Monday 31 October 2005 18:16, Derek Broughton wrote: > andrew wrote: > > My first posting here. Coming straight from Windows I am quite pleased > > with the package (5.04 I think) but cannot get knode to honour my "x-no > > header yes " line. > > What do you mean? I mean that I have set the "X-No Archive: yes" line under the: Configure-Kontact->Posting News->X Headers menu but my recent usenet post has appeared without this line. > has any likelihood of working is the "X-noarchive" line Yes my mistake I mistyped my question. I meant x no archive There are so many things I like about Knode but I still fall back to agent because I am familiar with it. AJH From lionelv at gmail.com Mon Oct 31 23:12:52 2005 From: lionelv at gmail.com (Lionel) Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:12:52 +1000 Subject: update to breezy, can't start kde Message-ID: I just updated to breezy (on dial up) and now kde won't start! I haven't got the error message on me, but when I type startkde I get something along the lines of "can't connect to xserver" something about DCOP and kded. Any ideas? Lionel. From BryckiP at pcaobus.org Mon Oct 31 23:42:27 2005 From: BryckiP at pcaobus.org (Brycki, Paul - CON) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:42:27 -0500 Subject: update to breezy, can't start kde Message-ID: Try just typing startx instead of startkde... -----Original Message----- From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Lionel Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:13 PM To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: update to breezy, can't start kde I just updated to breezy (on dial up) and now kde won't start! I haven't got the error message on me, but when I type startkde I get something along the lines of "can't connect to xserver" something about DCOP and kded. Any ideas? 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