From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 00:42:36 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 02:42:36 +0200 Subject: Recovering deleted files In-Reply-To: <451EFEB9.8030401@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00609300920i4fa2850ma8f3d365c419a54d@mail.gmail.com> <200609301842.10971.frode@ubuntu.com> <451EFEB9.8030401@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00609301742y13a1d153gb386ebced0477de@mail.gmail.com> On 01/10/06, Tez wrote: > I know that feeling, recently I accidentally deleted a backup image I > made of a disk, not good. A google later and I found that same quote, AHH. > > I was able to find 1 piece of software that says it can recover deleted > files in Ext3 [1] but it only runs on windows (WTF, i know). So I have a > PC with XP on it, that the not so smart people in my family use, so I > installed the software on that. I took the HDD out of my linux PC and > put it in to the windows one and it found some deleted files > (150,368,562 to be exact), after a good 6 hour scan, but didn't show > names, only inode numbers. I tryed to recover some, but I couldn't find > the one I was after. I finally gave up, partly because it was looking > less and less likely that I was going to find the file, but mostly > because I was getting so sick of working on windows I was about to go > for a sledge-hammer. > > If you do decide to try the software there are some things you need to know, > 1. It's not free, it costs $79 > 2. It only runs on windows, and it has to be windows not wine > 3. It's going to take hours; it took 6 on my 170GB HDD > 4. There is no guaranty that you will recover all, if any, of the data. > > [1] http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm > > Tez I saw this. The neighbor's winbox is here next to me if I had decided to go that route. I'm happy that I can return his computer to him without having needed it... I don't need to hear him laughing how I needed a winbox to fix my linux machine... Thanks Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 01:33:18 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 03:33:18 +0200 Subject: Files disappearing from mounted partitions Message-ID: <880dece00609301833s7203f53at9ef2c437a531f10f@mail.gmail.com> My /etc/fstab: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/hdb1 /home/dotancohen/music ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/hda6 /home/dotancohen/video1 ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/hda7 /home/dotancohen/video2 ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/hda8 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ All was fine until today. Now, when I open /home/dotancohen/music /home/dotancohen/video1 or /home/dotancohen/video2 the folders seem to be empty: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls music/ dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video1 dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video2 dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ Note that each of these directories have at least 5 Gigs each worth of files. Why don't I see those files? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Oct 1 01:46:27 2006 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:46:27 -0400 Subject: Files disappearing from mounted partitions In-Reply-To: <880dece00609301833s7203f53at9ef2c437a531f10f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00609301833s7203f53at9ef2c437a531f10f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200609302146.27669.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 30 September 2006 21:33, Dotan Cohen wrote: >My /etc/fstab: >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab ># /etc/fstab: static file system information. ># ># >proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 >/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 > 1 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 > /dev/hdb1 /home/dotancohen/music ext3 defaults 0 2 > /dev/hda6 /home/dotancohen/video1 ext3 defaults 0 > 2 /dev/hda7 /home/dotancohen/video2 ext3 defaults 0 > 2 /dev/hda8 none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ > >All was fine until today. Now, when I open /home/dotancohen/music >/home/dotancohen/video1 or /home/dotancohen/video2 the folders seem to >be empty: >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls music/ >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video1 >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video2 >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ > >Note that each of these directories have at least 5 Gigs each worth of >files. Why don't I see those files? > >Thanks in advance. > >Dotan Cohen >http://what-is-what.com Does /etc/mtab say they are mounted? Sound like they may not be. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 02:18:31 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 04:18:31 +0200 Subject: Files disappearing from mounted partitions In-Reply-To: <200609302146.27669.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <880dece00609301833s7203f53at9ef2c437a531f10f@mail.gmail.com> <200609302146.27669.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00609301918x178b9375y1fd92306992b938a@mail.gmail.com> On 01/10/06, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 30 September 2006 21:33, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >My /etc/fstab: > >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab > ># /etc/fstab: static file system information. > ># > ># > >proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 > >/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 > > 1 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 > > /dev/hdb1 /home/dotancohen/music ext3 defaults 0 2 > > /dev/hda6 /home/dotancohen/video1 ext3 defaults 0 > > 2 /dev/hda7 /home/dotancohen/video2 ext3 defaults 0 > > 2 /dev/hda8 none swap sw 0 0 > > /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ > > > >All was fine until today. Now, when I open /home/dotancohen/music > >/home/dotancohen/video1 or /home/dotancohen/video2 the folders seem to > >be empty: > >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls music/ > >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video1 > >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video2 > >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ > > > >Note that each of these directories have at least 5 Gigs each worth of > >files. Why don't I see those files? > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Dotan Cohen > >http://what-is-what.com > > Does /etc/mtab say they are mounted? Sound like they may not be. > Gene, you're right, the partitions aren't mounted. They were all mounted a few hours ago. And they umounted one by one. Why could that be? I'm a bit worried. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 02:35:14 2006 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:35:14 -0700 Subject: I'm stumped Message-ID: <20060930193514.3affdc3f@rodney-desktop> I have kubuntu dapper installed, with all of the universe/multiverse repositories open. Yet I cannot find mplayer-386 or mencoder, so that they can be installed. -- Rodney D. Myers Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hawkwind at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 02:41:58 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:58 -0500 Subject: I'm stumped In-Reply-To: <20060930193514.3affdc3f@rodney-desktop> References: <20060930193514.3affdc3f@rodney-desktop> Message-ID: On 9/30/06, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > > I have kubuntu dapper installed, with all of the universe/multiverse > repositories open. > > Yet I cannot find mplayer-386 or mencoder, so that they can be > installed. > > -- > Rodney D. Myers > Registered Linux User #96112 > ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: > 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Ben Franklin - 1759 Might want to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list here so that we can see it. Both apps are in 'multiverse' as I just did an apt-cache madison for both. After you added multiverse/universe did you do a sudo apt-get update first ? That is very important of course so it will download the new list of packages. -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 02:46:49 2006 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:46:49 -0700 Subject: I'm stumped In-Reply-To: References: <20060930193514.3affdc3f@rodney-desktop> Message-ID: <20060930194649.587ab199@rodney-desktop> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:41:58 -0500 Hawkwind wrote: > On 9/30/06, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > > > > > I have kubuntu dapper installed, with all of the universe/multiverse > > repositories open. > > > > Yet I cannot find mplayer-386 or mencoder, so that they can be > > installed. > > Might want to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list here so that we can see it. > Both apps are in 'multiverse' as I just did an apt-cache madison for both. > > After you added multiverse/universe did you do a sudo apt-get update first > ? That is very important of course so it will download the new list of > packages. > > > -- > With kind regards, > > Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Cr*p, I did on the first email, which bounced; deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the ## Ubuntu team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy ## yourself as to your rights to use the software. Also, please note ## that software in universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates ## from the Ubuntu security team. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the ## 'backports' repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it ## includes newer versions of some applications which may provide ## useful features. Also, please note that software in backports WILL ## NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security team. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe ## Sylpheed-Claws deb http://www.sylpheed-claws.net/ubuntu/dapper/ ./ ## Opera deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main -- Rodney D. Myers Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. 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Myers wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have kubuntu dapper installed, with all of the universe/multiverse > > > repositories open. > > > > > > Yet I cannot find mplayer-386 or mencoder, so that they can be > > > installed. > > > > Might want to paste your /etc/apt/sources.list here so that we can see > it. > > Both apps are in 'multiverse' as I just did an apt-cache madison for > both. > > > > After you added multiverse/universe did you do a sudo apt-get update > first > > ? That is very important of course so it will download the new list of > > packages. > > > > > > -- > > With kind regards, > > > > Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) > > Cr*p, I did on the first email, which bounced; > > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe > multiverse > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > universe multiverse > > ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the > ## distribution. > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > universe multiverse > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main universe > multiverse > restricted > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' > ## repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the > ## Ubuntu team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy > ## yourself as to your rights to use the software. Also, please note > ## that software in universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates > ## from the Ubuntu security team. > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the > ## 'backports' repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as > ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it > ## includes newer versions of some applications which may provide > ## useful features. Also, please note that software in backports WILL > ## NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security team. > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted > universe multiverse deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main > restricted universe multiverse > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > multiverse universe > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > multiverse universe > > ## Sylpheed-Claws > deb http://www.sylpheed-claws.net/ubuntu/dapper/ ./ > > ## Opera > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main If you notice, you only had 'multiverse' in one or two places. I have edited it for you and put multiverse where it needs to go. You need to make the appropriate changes on your end, then do: sudo apt-get update and then install what you want. -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 03:21:35 2006 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 20:21:35 -0700 Subject: I'm stumped In-Reply-To: References: <20060930193514.3affdc3f@rodney-desktop> <20060930194649.587ab199@rodney-desktop> Message-ID: <20060930202135.7af36af3@rodney-desktop> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:03:31 -0500 Hawkwind wrote: > If you notice, you only had 'multiverse' in one or two places. I have > edited it for you and put multiverse where it needs to go. You need to make > the appropriate changes on your end, then do: sudo apt-get update and then > install what you want. Thanks.. It's a basic dapper install. Just moving over from debian etch, so not sure of a lot of the repositpries. -- Rodney D. Myers Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Myers > Registered Linux User #96112 > ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: > 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Ben Franklin - 1759 No problem. It's something that is asked quite often in fact. Hopefully one day the *Ubuntu's will have main, multiverse, universe and security stuff enabled by default to save all this hassle of having to enable them since everyone practically needs them from the get go to get any decent apps. -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sun Oct 1 04:47:22 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:47:22 -0700 Subject: I'm stumped In-Reply-To: References: <20060930193514.3affdc3f@rodney-desktop> <20060930202135.7af36af3@rodney-desktop> Message-ID: <200609302147.22623.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Saturday 30 September 2006 08:30 pm, Hawkwind wrote: > On 9/30/06, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:03:31 -0500 > > > > Hawkwind wrote: > > > If you notice, you only had 'multiverse' in one or two places. I have > > > edited it for you and put multiverse where it needs to go. You need to > > > > make > > > > > the appropriate changes on your end, then do: sudo apt-get update and > > > > then > > > > > install what you want. > > > > Thanks.. It's a basic dapper install. Just moving over from debian > > etch, so not sure of a lot of the repositpries. > > > > -- > > Rodney D. Myers > > Registered Linux User #96112 > > ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: > > 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 > > > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > Ben Franklin - 1759 > > No problem. It's something that is asked quite often in fact. Hopefully > one day the *Ubuntu's will have main, multiverse, universe and security > stuff enabled by default to save all this hassle of having to enable them > since everyone practically needs them from the get go to get any decent > apps. Don't know if anyone has mentioned it but you can get your codecs flash etc from http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ D/L install and the rest is painless -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Sun Oct 1 04:39:12 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:39:12 -0700 Subject: Files disappearing from mounted partitions In-Reply-To: <880dece00609301918x178b9375y1fd92306992b938a@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00609301833s7203f53at9ef2c437a531f10f@mail.gmail.com> <200609302146.27669.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <880dece00609301918x178b9375y1fd92306992b938a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200609302139.12667.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Saturday 30 September 2006 19:18, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Gene, you're right, the partitions aren't mounted. > > They were all mounted a few hours ago. And they umounted one by one. > Why could that be? I'm a bit worried. That's bizarre. Why don't you check the recent installments of /var/log/messages for an answer? or maybe dmesg, which should be about the same. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From newslists at resrequest.com Sun Oct 1 04:45:23 2006 From: newslists at resrequest.com (Richard Howes) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 06:45:23 +0200 Subject: [OT] Photo storage options Message-ID: <200610010645.24028.newslists@resrequest.com> Hi All, I am considering a Flickr account for archiving my precious photo collection. I was wondering if there are any better options out there in the opinions of the gurus on this list? Thanks Cheers Richard -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Oct 1 06:34:10 2006 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 02:34:10 -0400 Subject: Files disappearing from mounted partitions In-Reply-To: <880dece00609301918x178b9375y1fd92306992b938a@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00609301833s7203f53at9ef2c437a531f10f@mail.gmail.com> <200609302146.27669.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <880dece00609301918x178b9375y1fd92306992b938a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610010234.11014.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 30 September 2006 22:18, Dotan Cohen wrote: >On 01/10/06, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Saturday 30 September 2006 21:33, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >My /etc/fstab: >> >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab >> ># /etc/fstab: static file system information. >> ># >> ># >> >proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 >> >/dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 >> > 1 /dev/hda9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 >> > /dev/hdb1 /home/dotancohen/music ext3 defaults 0 >> > 2 /dev/hda6 /home/dotancohen/video1 ext3 defaults 0 >> > 2 /dev/hda7 /home/dotancohen/video2 ext3 defaults 0 2 >> > /dev/hda8 none swap sw 0 0 >> > /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 >> > /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 >> > /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 >> > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ >> > >> >All was fine until today. Now, when I open /home/dotancohen/music >> >/home/dotancohen/video1 or /home/dotancohen/video2 the folders seem to >> >be empty: >> >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls music/ >> >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video1 >> >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ ls video2 >> >dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ >> > >> >Note that each of these directories have at least 5 Gigs each worth of >> >files. Why don't I see those files? >> > >> >Thanks in advance. >> > >> >Dotan Cohen >> >http://what-is-what.com >> >> Does /etc/mtab say they are mounted? Sound like they may not be. > >Gene, you're right, the partitions aren't mounted. > >They were all mounted a few hours ago. And they umounted one by one. >Why could that be? I'm a bit worried. I think I'd be doing some back searching in the logs for clues. Maybe you had a power glitch that rebooted the machine and they weren't ready at mount time? Thats not even a WAG, let alone a SWAG though. I think I'd reboot from cold, and see if that fixes it. I don't know of anything that would cause them to spontainiously unmount though. Mount doesn't to my knowledge have a timeout option but a flakey psu or a power glitch can do black magic things occasionally. One of the reasons I have a ups on everything here. > >Thanks. > >Dotan Cohen >http://gmail-com.com -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Oct 1 06:37:27 2006 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 02:37:27 -0400 Subject: [OT] Photo storage options In-Reply-To: <200610010645.24028.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610010645.24028.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610010237.28106.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 01 October 2006 00:45, Richard Howes wrote: >Hi All, > >I am considering a Flickr account for archiving my precious photo > collection. I was wondering if there are any better options out there in > the opinions of the gurus on this list? Yeah, I burn a fresh dvd of mine from time to time, say every 6 months. Not that I have anything salatious, but flickr seems too public and vaporous for long time storage if they're precious enough for you to call them that. >Thanks >Cheers > >Richard -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From Chiphazard56 at aol.com Sun Oct 1 08:21:51 2006 From: Chiphazard56 at aol.com (Chiphazard56 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 04:21:51 EDT Subject: adept up dating??? Message-ID: HI All I am quite new to all this, but having just installed dapper i would give it a go I have changed all the packet manager priorities ok but still no joy. Is it because the rooter i'm using is not letting access or do i need to change other stuff????? if this is the case i'll need a walk through The rooter ....eTEC asdl2/2+ Primary disc.... Win xp home for the tribe[ha ha] I use a grub thing to select the hard disc HD0/HD1 please help me ARRRGH nigel turley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Oct 1 08:57:14 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:57:14 +0100 Subject: adept up dating??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <451F82EA.8090600@blueyonder.co.uk> Chiphazard56 at aol.com wrote: > HI All > I am quite new to all this, but having just installed dapper i would > give it a go > I have changed all the packet manager priorities ok but still no joy. > Is it because the rooter > i'm using is not letting access or do i need to change other stuff????? > if this is the case i'll need a walk through > The rooter ....eTEC asdl2/2+ > Primary disc.... Win xp home for the tribe[ha ha] > I use a grub thing to select the hard disc HD0/HD1 > please help me ARRRGH > nigel turley Not sure what you are asking here, can you be more clear? Tez From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 09:19:40 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 11:19:40 +0200 Subject: Photo applications In-Reply-To: References: <451A23B0.1060608@gmail.com> <200609301051.43500.lordsauronthegreat@gmail.com> Message-ID: <451F882C.1040003@gmail.com> Henri Girard wrote: > with automatix i think you can get picassa working on dapper... > or try klil > > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:51:40 +0200, Lord Sauron > wrote: > > >> On Wednesday 27 September 2006 00:09, Orjan Sinclair wrote: >> >>> When in windows I have always (well since it was launched) used >>> Google Picasa for photos, has all you need like automatic resizing >>> when you mail photos, burning to CD etc etc. >>> >>> What similar native KDE apps are there? I know I can download and run >>> Picasa w. Wine but would prefer a native application. >>> >> Ooh, you're gonna love this little app! >> >> digiKam is a most excellent program! If you have a digital camera, you >> can install the kamera kioslave and just plug your camera in via USB >> and download your photos. >> >> DigiKam is great, I highly reccommend it. >> >> > > > > Actually, Google has Picasa in a repository so I added that and am using it. Sorry Digikam but such a simple thing (to me) as mailing from within the app does not work where as the non-Linux Picasa can sort that. Problem with multiple pics though (mailing that is). http://dl.google.com/linux/deb Sinclair From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 10:40:48 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 12:40:48 +0200 Subject: Files disappearing from mounted partitions In-Reply-To: <200610010234.11014.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <880dece00609301833s7203f53at9ef2c437a531f10f@mail.gmail.com> <200609302146.27669.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <880dece00609301918x178b9375y1fd92306992b938a@mail.gmail.com> <200610010234.11014.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610010340k76888440w9315d1e8e08973b9@mail.gmail.com> On 01/10/06, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Does /etc/mtab say they are mounted? Sound like they may not be. > > > >Gene, you're right, the partitions aren't mounted. > > > >They were all mounted a few hours ago. And they umounted one by one. > >Why could that be? I'm a bit worried. > > I think I'd be doing some back searching in the logs for clues. Maybe you > had a power glitch that rebooted the machine and they weren't ready at > mount time? Thats not even a WAG, let alone a SWAG though. I think I'd > reboot from cold, and see if that fixes it. I don't know of anything that > would cause them to spontainiously unmount though. Mount doesn't to my > knowledge have a timeout option but a flakey psu or a power glitch can do > black magic things occasionally. One of the reasons I have a ups on > everything here. > No, there was certainly no pwer outage as I've been sitting here on this machine all day (and then some). And I did reboot at soon as I saw the files were missing from the first of the mounts- I thought that I accidentally erased them and I wanted to umount to partition before things got overwritten in the hopes of recovering. So rebooting isn't always the answer. Dotan http://lyricslist.com From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 13:28:47 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:28:47 -0600 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <200609301300.18117.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen said the following at 09/30/2006 03:44 PM : > On 30/09/06, claydoh wrote: >> Gwenview is a great photo browser, and if you also install kipi-plugins, it >> can do some editing, rotating, and album exporting (html, upload to flikr, >> etc) > > Gwenview doesn't have tagging abilities. The OP didn't mention that he > needs it, but I think that it is a necessary feature of any photo > organizing program. > You're right that I should have been more explicit about what I want: basically something very simple that can create HTML albums. Basically, the idea is that you have a series of web pages that show thumbnails, and clicking on a thumbnail gives you the full-resolution image. I just want something simple so that I can serve family photos from my web server to my Dad back home. kalbum was great for this; I'm not sure why it's not included in Kubuntu, but I expect that one or more of the programs that are included is a fine replacement. I have the photos already on a CD; I want to go through them, not editing or tagging them but just selecting which ones to include in the album. From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sun Oct 1 13:41:46 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:41:46 -0400 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <200609301300.18117.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <451FC59A.2000403@optonline.net> D. R. Evans wrote: >Dotan Cohen said the following at 09/30/2006 03:44 PM : > > > >You're right that I should have been more explicit about what I want: >basically something very simple that can create HTML albums. > >Basically, the idea is that you have a series of web pages that show >thumbnails, and clicking on a thumbnail gives you the full-resolution image. > > > Try iGal: http://www.stanford.edu/~epop/igal/ I´ve used it on my sites, jttp://www.photodharma.com and http://www.altartnudes.com to make galleries. It´s a simple shell script that creates a html index and thumbnails in a directory of images. Works nice. tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sun Oct 1 13:47:17 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:47:17 -0400 Subject: gRip =?ISO-8859-1?Q?won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3_encoder?= Message-ID: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> For some reason, when I try to use any mp3 encoder from gRip, I get some message about including the full path to the encoder. Does this mean I don´t have the encoder installed? I know...I can use ogg, but I have a dvd/cd/mp3 playing machine, and it doesn´t play ogg, and, I have had little success converting ogg back to wav to burn audio cds, too. tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Oct 1 14:52:26 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 10:52:26 -0400 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610011052.26315.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday 01 October 2006 9:28 am, D. R. Evans wrote: > You're right that I should have been more explicit about what I want: > basically something very simple that can create HTML albums. > > Basically, the idea is that you have a series of web pages that show > thumbnails, and clicking on a thumbnail gives you the full-resolution > image. > > I just want something simple so that I can serve family photos from my web > server to my Dad back home. kalbum was great for this; I'm not sure why > it's not included in Kubuntu, but I expect that one or more of the programs > that are included is a fine replacement. > > I have the photos already on a CD; I want to go through them, not editing > or tagging them but just selecting which ones to include in the album. Unfortunately kalbum does not look to have been updated since early 2004, so maybe it won't build correctly in newer KDE versions . I did find another one I tried out a while ago, that still is around: albumshaper http://albumshaper.sourceforge.net/index.shtml and http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9929 It is available in Universe for Kubuntu, and it looks pretty good. It only has a small number of themes, but they are all rather well done. I did not see any way to customize the themes, which is probably the only feature lacking in comparison to kalbum -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From rscrawford at mossroot.com Sun Oct 1 15:13:11 2006 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:13:11 -0700 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <200610011052.26315.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610011052.26315.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <200610010813.12367.rscrawford@mossroot.com> On Sunday 01 October 2006 07:52, claydoh wrote: > > Basically, the idea is that you have a series of web pages that show > > thumbnails, and clicking on a thumbnail gives you the full-resolution > > image. I've missed many of the earlier posts in this thread, so many this has already been brought up. Have you tried Gallery? http://gallery.menalto.com/ It's a PHP/MySQL/Apache app that does pretty much exactly what you describe here, along with some useful navigation features and other tools. Uploading images is easy and maintenance isn't hard either. Setup is kind of a pain, though. I've been running Gallery on my server for my family to update family pictures for a couple of years now, and it's worked like a charm. -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief at Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) Check out the Cthulhu Wiki: http://www.mossroot.com/cthulhuwiki AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: underpope at gmail.com Skype/Gizmo: underpope "You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus." (Mark Twain) From gcarst at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 15:19:51 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 17:19:51 +0200 Subject: no sound in new kubuntu edgy Message-ID: I cannot get my znote 6515 laptop to play any sound. I have dual boot with ubuntu hoary where sound is great on the same machine. - - - lsmod | grep snd gives on hoary: snd_intel8x0 29984 4 snd_ac97_codec 64608 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm_oss 47652 0 snd_mixer_oss 16768 3 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 84872 4 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 23300 2 snd_pcm snd 50276 8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 9824 4 saa7134,snd snd_page_alloc 9604 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm lsmod | grep snd gives on kubuntu edgy: snd_intel8x0 34972 2 snd_ac97_codec 98464 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_bus 3456 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss 47744 0 snd_mixer_oss 19712 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm 85252 4 saa7134_alsa,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 25476 1 snd_pcm snd 58756 11 saa7134_alsa,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 11232 2 snd snd_page_alloc 11528 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm The card is a: 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH 6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04) Any help would be appreciated Thanks Gunner From harold_hartley at verizon.net Sun Oct 1 19:03:45 2006 From: harold_hartley at verizon.net (Harold Hartley) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:03:45 -0400 Subject: lines in image when printing Message-ID: <45201111.2080003@verizon.net> I have a slight problem, but can't seem to figure it out. I have install the driver that seems to be found to work with my printer. I have a HP Deskjet 610c and the driver found to work with it was a HP Deskjet 610CL hpijs. Not sure what type of driver it is suppose to do, but when I print I have line in pictures or images when printed. Has anyone else run into this and what did you do to fix it. Harold From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sun Oct 1 20:03:28 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 13:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: lines in image when printing In-Reply-To: <45201111.2080003@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20061001200328.68845.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Harold Hartley wrote: I have a slight problem, but can't seem to figure it out. I have install the driver that seems to be found to work with my printer. I have a HP Deskjet 610c and the driver found to work with it was a HP Deskjet 610CL hpijs. Not sure what type of driver it is suppose to do, but when I print I have line in pictures or images when printed. Has anyone else run into this and what did you do to fix it. Harold I've been using HP printers for Graphics production for a long time. Query...what Kind of line: a "black" line a line "where the colours are displaced to one side creating a line: a line where the ink is suddenly darker but right colours changing resolution to print ex from 600 or 1200 dpi to the lower printer resolution can cause a lot of problems. too. IIRC 610C is only 150 DPI colour, never used one but DID use a couple of the 693C series a long time ago. from my examples the black line was caused by a buffer/memory problem the second by a bad scanning on cds made with windows XPs built in CD writer which was making the CD too fast for the CD media and sent to me by a local print shop ...having them make the file at a lower speed or with a thirfd party app fixed this BUT,, these lines were visible when the pic was displayed.IOW a bad file the Line where colour became suddenly more intense was VERY characteristic of these older printers on larger prints because the ink flow would gradually slow down as the printing took place making it lighter, then as the printer would pause as the buffer "filled" the ink would be more intense as printing resumed. If it's the latter the only cure is to replace the cartridge if that fails ...the printer...basically exceeding the capabilities of the printer, This problem disappeared with the larger cartridges of the later 800 series, and does not to seem to occur with the later photosmart series even though they have small volume cartridges. Anything that interrupts the printing can cause this problem sometimes on almost any inkjet when printing a large print... best either use a print server or leave the computer completely alone while printing a large file even with linux. Use of the swap can pause printing,,,even though it does a better job thean windows. (even old OS/2 does better than windows multitasking :-) ) FWIW we use old machines as dedicated print servers for this reason. like P1s with 512 mb of memory. also using gimp to resize/ resample th file to closer to printer resolution will help Multiple noise lines are inherent in the alteration of the file resolution for printing. A rule of thumb was to scan (or build) the graphics file at a resolution From harold_hartley at verizon.net Sun Oct 1 20:40:41 2006 From: harold_hartley at verizon.net (Harold Hartley) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:40:41 -0400 Subject: lines in image when printing In-Reply-To: <20061001200328.68845.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061001200328.68845.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <452027C9.3050809@verizon.net> Bry Melvin wrote: a line "where the colours are displaced to one side creating a line: Its a line where the edge of the 2 layers print for the picture or image, but the text is just fine. but as noted above > changing resolution to print ex from 600 or 1200 dpi to the lower > printer resolution can cause a lot of problems. too. > I have looked around depending on what driver I have to use, the lowest is 300 x 300 dpi > IIRC 610C is only 150 DPI colour, never used one but DID use a couple > of the 693C series a long time ago. > > from my examples > > the black line was caused by a buffer/memory problem > the second by a bad scanning on cds made with windows XPs built in CD > writer which was making the CD too fast for the CD media and sent to > me by a local print shop ...having them make the file at a lower speed > or with a thirfd party app fixed this BUT,, these lines were visible > when the pic was displayed.IOW a bad file > > the Line where colour became suddenly more intense was VERY > characteristic of these older printers on larger prints because the > ink flow would gradually slow down as the printing took place making > it lighter, then as the printer would pause as the buffer "filled" the > ink would be more intense as printing resumed. > > If it's the latter the only cure is to replace the cartridge if that > fails ...the printer...basically exceeding the capabilities of the > printer, > > This problem disappeared with the larger cartridges of the later 800 > series, and does not to seem to occur with the later photosmart series > even though they have small volume cartridges. > > Anything that interrupts the printing can cause this problem > sometimes on almost any inkjet when printing a large print... best > either use a print server or leave the computer completely alone while > printing a large file even with linux. Use of the swap can pause > printing,,,even though it does a better job thean windows. (even old > OS/2 does better than windows multitasking :-) ) > > FWIW we use old machines as dedicated print servers for this reason. > like P1s with 512 mb of memory. > > also using gimp to resize/ resample th file to closer to printer > resolution will help > > Multiple noise lines are inherent in the alteration of the file > resolution for printing. > A rule of thumb was to scan (or build) the graphics file at a > resolution > > Maybe I'll have to save my pennies to get a different printer, but for my case is very difficult because I live in a nursing home. I'm not complaining, but I just wanted to note my budget. :) Maybe if I play around with the settings, I may get it right since when I use to use mandriva, it printed just fine for everything, but now I'm using kubuntu and I did notice when booting, it was loading a HP linux print and image system. But I now need to investigate into this more. Harold P.S. thanks for the info you gave me to help figure things out. From kubuntu at mekanix.dk Sun Oct 1 21:17:16 2006 From: kubuntu at mekanix.dk (Bjarne Wichmann Petersen) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 23:17:16 +0200 Subject: DigiKam and ACL Message-ID: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Hi I'd like to have a folder shared between my wife and me, containing our DigiKam albums. This means I need a shared folder where we both have rw access to all files and subdirectories. And any created files and subdirectorie would inherit those filepermissions. I looked like ACL would be the solution, by setting a default ACL for the shared folder. Ie: setfacl -d -m u:wife:rw sharedfolder/ But it looks like DigiKam is overruling the default ACL from imported pictures by removing any writeaccess for all except the owner. Does anyone have an idea how to solve this? Bjarne From michael at weblore.com Sun Oct 1 21:28:39 2006 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:28:39 -0500 Subject: Lost sound volume control Message-ID: <45203307.1020703@weblore.com> I accidentally closed the applet that allows me to adjust volume / mute the speakers. I can't find it anywhere - and looking under add applet to panel, I see the mixer controls, but not simply volume controls. Would someone be so kind as to help me get this back? I'd appreciate it much. From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 23:32:58 2006 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:32:58 +0800 Subject: Lost sound volume control In-Reply-To: <45203307.1020703@weblore.com> References: <45203307.1020703@weblore.com> Message-ID: <200610020732.58748.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> It's not an applet actually. It's a program called KMix. It should be in K Menu -> Multimedia. If it isn't there, press Alt+F2 (Run command dialog box) and enter "kmix" (without the quotes). Hope that helps. On Mon October 2 2006 5:28 am, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I accidentally closed the applet that allows me to adjust volume / mute > the speakers. I can't find it anywhere - and looking under add applet to > panel, I see the mixer controls, but not simply volume controls. > > Would someone be so kind as to help me get this back? I'd appreciate it > much. From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 23:37:01 2006 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:37:01 +0800 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Sun October 1 2006 9:28 pm, D. R. Evans wrote: > Dotan Cohen said the following at 09/30/2006 03:44 PM : > > On 30/09/06, claydoh wrote: > >> Gwenview is a great photo browser, and if you also install kipi-plugins, > >> it can do some editing, rotating, and album exporting (html, upload to > >> flikr, etc) > > > > Gwenview doesn't have tagging abilities. The OP didn't mention that he > > needs it, but I think that it is a necessary feature of any photo > > organizing program. > > You're right that I should have been more explicit about what I want: > basically something very simple that can create HTML albums. > > Basically, the idea is that you have a series of web pages that show > thumbnails, and clicking on a thumbnail gives you the full-resolution > image. > > I just want something simple so that I can serve family photos from my web > server to my Dad back home. kalbum was great for this; I'm not sure why > it's not included in Kubuntu, but I expect that one or more of the programs > that are included is a fine replacement. > > I have the photos already on a CD; I want to go through them, not editing > or tagging them but just selecting which ones to include in the album. If you want to simply make HTML galleries from a directory, you could try using Konqueror. Go to the directory that contains the images you want to make into a gallery, the in the Tools menu, select Create Image Gallery. You will be given some options, like what size you want the thumbnails to be. Then you could just replicate the directory (with the images and the thumbs folder, of course) on your web server. From claydoh at claydoh.com Mon Oct 2 00:01:14 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:01:14 -0400 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610012001.14951.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday 01 October 2006 7:37 pm, Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > If you want to simply make HTML galleries from a directory, you could try > using Konqueror. Go to the directory that contains the images you want to > make into a gallery, the in the Tools menu, select Create Image Gallery. > You will be given some options, like what size you want the thumbnails to > be. > > Then you could just replicate the directory (with the images and the thumbs > folder, of course) on your web server. Whoa! Utterly @#*^*^% amazing! It is becoming harder to find things Konqueror *can't* do! /me wanders off, in search of how to edit the template used for the album... Astounding! -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From billcoker at eapps.com Mon Oct 2 01:01:31 2006 From: billcoker at eapps.com (Bill Coker) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:01:31 -0500 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:37:01 -0500, Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Sun October 1 2006 9:28 pm, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Dotan Cohen said the following at 09/30/2006 03:44 PM : >> > On 30/09/06, claydoh wrote: >> >> Gwenview is a great photo browser, and if you also install >> kipi-plugins, >> >> it can do some editing, rotating, and album exporting (html, upload >> to >> >> flikr, etc) >> > >> > Gwenview doesn't have tagging abilities. The OP didn't mention that he >> > needs it, but I think that it is a necessary feature of any photo >> > organizing program. >> >> You're right that I should have been more explicit about what I want: >> basically something very simple that can create HTML albums. >> >> Basically, the idea is that you have a series of web pages that show >> thumbnails, and clicking on a thumbnail gives you the full-resolution >> image. >> >> I just want something simple so that I can serve family photos from my >> web >> server to my Dad back home. kalbum was great for this; I'm not sure why >> it's not included in Kubuntu, but I expect that one or more of the >> programs >> that are included is a fine replacement. >> >> I have the photos already on a CD; I want to go through them, not >> editing >> or tagging them but just selecting which ones to include in the album. > > If you want to simply make HTML galleries from a directory, you could try > using Konqueror. Go to the directory that contains the images you want to > make into a gallery, the in the Tools menu, select Create Image Gallery. > You > will be given some options, like what size you want the thumbnails to be. > > Then you could just replicate the directory (with the images and the > thumbs > folder, of course) on your web server. > I used the Konqueror feature for this for the first time the other day it does a great job. -- Thank you, Bill Coker From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Oct 2 01:51:46 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:51:46 +0100 Subject: DigiKam and ACL In-Reply-To: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: <452070B2.1030205@blueyonder.co.uk> Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > Hi > > I'd like to have a folder shared between my wife and me, containing our > DigiKam albums. > > This means I need a shared folder where we both have rw access to all files > and subdirectories. And any created files and subdirectorie would inherit > those filepermissions. > > I looked like ACL would be the solution, by setting a default ACL for the > shared folder. Ie: > > setfacl -d -m u:wife:rw sharedfolder/ > > But it looks like DigiKam is overruling the default ACL from imported pictures > by removing any writeaccess for all except the owner. > > Does anyone have an idea how to solve this? > > Bjarne > > You could try setting setting the GID bit on the directory, that way all the files created will have the same group and group permissions: chmod g+s sharedfolder/ Tez From machines at centurytel.net Mon Oct 2 04:04:09 2006 From: machines at centurytel.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 23:04:09 -0500 Subject: Adept Locked Message-ID: <200610012304.09192.machines@centurytel.net> When I try to run adept from the gui I am getting this error message. You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one. If I run sudo adept from console I get this error message. X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 144 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 144 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device kapture::PkgSystem::PkgSystem() adept: ERROR: Communication problem with adept, it probably crashed. marc at marc-desktop:~$ adept: PackageDetails::setPackage() adept: PackageInfo::setPackage() adept: PackageInfo::setVersion() (valid) adept: PackageDetails::notifyPostChange() adept: PackageDetails::loadFileList() ScimInputContextPlugin() adept: TagList: scheduling update adept: TagList: scheduling update adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: rebuild running adept: querying m_rangeProvider 0x84f213c... adept: clearing... adept: ExtendableList::clear() adept: end of ExtendableList::clear() adept: asyncCall to rebuildInsertRange... adept: starting the thread... adept: PackageDetails::updateLogical() adept: PackageDetails::updateLogical: p = python-tclink p.component() = 0x834b618 adept: rebuild running adept: querying m_rangeProvider 0x85136cc... python python2.4-tclink python adept: clearing... adept: ExtendableList::clear() adept: end of ExtendableList::clear() adept: asyncCall to rebuildInsertRange... adept: starting the thread... adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: TagList (Tags I Want (drop tags here)): updating list adept: TagList (Tags I Do Not Want (drop tags here)): updating list adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: PackageDetails::loadFileListWorker() entering loop adept: PackageDetails::loadFileListWorker() leaving loop adept: thread finished... adept: 3 entities synced, time = 710 adept: thread finished... adept: 18872 entities synced, time = 720 adept: FilterSidebar::setCardinality adept: PackageDetails::loadFileList() finished adept: PackageDetails::setPackage() adept: PackageInfo::setPackage() adept: PackageInfo::setVersion() (valid) adept: PackageDetails::notifyPostChange() adept: PackageDetails::loadFileList() adept: TagList: scheduling update adept: TagList: scheduling update adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: rebuild running adept: querying m_rangeProvider 0x8b2f634... adept: clearing... adept: ExtendableList::clear() adept: end of ExtendableList::clear() adept: asyncCall to rebuildInsertRange... adept: starting the thread... adept: PackageDetails::updateLogical() adept: PackageDetails::updateLogical: p = python-tclink p.component() = 0x834b618 adept: rebuild running adept: querying m_rangeProvider 0x8b59fc4... python python2.4-tclink python adept: clearing... adept: ExtendableList::clear() adept: end of ExtendableList::clear() adept: asyncCall to rebuildInsertRange... adept: starting the thread... adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: TagList (Tags I Want (drop tags here)): updating list adept: TagList (Tags I Do Not Want (drop tags here)): updating list adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: PackageDetails::loadFileListWorker() entering loop adept: PackageDetails::loadFileListWorker() leaving loop adept: thread finished... adept: 3 entities synced, time = 720 adept: thread finished... adept: 18872 entities synced, time = 720 adept: FilterSidebar::setCardinality adept: PackageDetails::loadFileList() finished Uh oh.. can't write data.. adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 3 adept: rebuild running adept: querying m_rangeProvider 0x84f213c... adept: clearing... adept: ExtendableList::clear() adept: end of ExtendableList::clear() adept: asyncCall to rebuildInsertRange... adept: starting the thread... adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: thread finished... adept: 18872 entities synced, time = 1170 adept: Progress::Done() adept: FilterSidebar::setCardinality adept: rebuild running adept: querying m_rangeProvider 0x8b2f634... adept: clearing... adept: ExtendableList::clear() adept: end of ExtendableList::clear() adept: asyncCall to rebuildInsertRange... adept: starting the thread... adept: ExtendableList::updateExtenders(); count = 0 adept: thread finished... adept: 0 entities synced, time = 190 adept: Progress::Done() adept: FilterSidebar::setCardinality After that adept opens but it is locked. I can not add or remove any packages. Does anyone know how to fix this problem. Thanks in advance Marc From frode at ubuntu.com Mon Oct 2 04:14:21 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 06:14:21 +0200 Subject: Adept Locked In-Reply-To: <200610012304.09192.machines@centurytel.net> References: <200610012304.09192.machines@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <200610020614.25081.frode@ubuntu.com> Hi Marc. Try to run this command from konsole: $ 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a' That will ask you if you want to kill the process locking the dpkg database. - Frode Mandag 02 oktober 2006 06:04, skrev Marc: > When I try to run adept from the gui I am getting this error message. > > You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, > remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging > system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or > aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one. > > If I run sudo adept from console I get this error message. > [cut] > After that adept opens but it is locked. I can not add or remove any > packages. Does anyone know how to fix this problem. > > Thanks in advance > > Marc From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Mon Oct 2 05:35:42 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:35:42 -0700 Subject: K3b is toast right now. Message-ID: <200610012235.42948.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Last time I used it, it worked great, but today, for some unknown reason it will not even load its GUI on my machine. I used to use the CL to figure out what was bugging a program that would not load. But since Ubuntu is configured to not allow that, I have no idea how to fix up k3b. I will take any help, as I am lost. -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From daniel at rimspace.net Mon Oct 2 06:34:17 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:34:17 +1000 Subject: K3b is toast right now. References: <200610012235.42948.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <871wprusye.fsf@rimspace.net> Rob Blomquist writes: > Last time I used it, it worked great, but today, for some unknown > reason it will not even load its GUI on my machine. Ouch. What changed on your machine recently? > I used to use the CL to figure out what was bugging a program that > would not load. But since Ubuntu is configured to not allow that, I > have no idea how to fix up k3b. I presume by "CL" you mean "command line"; you can certainly still use a console to run software in Ubuntu, even if they don't go out of their way to encourage it. The easy way is to open up 'Konsole' from the system section of the menu, and run 'k3b' from there -- it will be in the path -- to see what output it delivers. Alternately, consult the ~/.xsession-errors file, which is where the stderr and stdout streams from applications are, by default, sent. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From kubuntu at mekanix.dk Mon Oct 2 07:29:44 2006 From: kubuntu at mekanix.dk (Bjarne Wichmann Petersen) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:29:44 +0200 Subject: DigiKam and ACL In-Reply-To: <452070B2.1030205@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <452070B2.1030205@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <200610020929.45056.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> On Monday 02 October 2006 03:51, Tez wrote: > You could try setting setting the GID bit on the directory, that way all > the files created will have the same group and group permissions: > chmod g+s sharedfolder/ Tried it. But DigiKam doesn't respect that either. :-( Bjarne From dgvirtual at akl.lt Mon Oct 2 08:47:59 2006 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:47:59 +0300 Subject: connect to lan? Message-ID: <4520D23F.9020506@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If I connect my laptop to lan before turning it on, I get connection to lan automatically, but if I just plug in the lan cable when kubuntu is already running, I do not have lan connection. How do I connect to lan in such circumstances? Up to now all I know is do reboot. Donatas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRSDSPvDtAb8AVdgrAQLPpgQAhD6L8wvO1T/vdXEtVLRJMWHfbMCKljY2 wEFfSE05MfKC3ClAGGfgm84LTq19Ur37yiafCAv70eOyCROs4MDs96+ULcUqmfyy mdCCjJlX56FTMhjYL1vTLrxQ4Qjb1hk8aYblrlJSZ7kkSopdQJSrcvw6uGt2ruTB JoAKuCOzujA= =a62E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gcarst at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 09:05:54 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:05:54 +0200 Subject: connect to lan? In-Reply-To: <4520D23F.9020506@akl.lt> References: <4520D23F.9020506@akl.lt> Message-ID: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in a terminal could be the geeky way of doing it /gunner 2006/10/2, Donatas G. : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > If I connect my laptop to lan before turning it on, I get connection to > lan automatically, but if I just plug in the lan cable when kubuntu is > already running, I do not have lan connection. > > How do I connect to lan in such circumstances? Up to now all I know is > do reboot. > > Donatas > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQCVAwUBRSDSPvDtAb8AVdgrAQLPpgQAhD6L8wvO1T/vdXEtVLRJMWHfbMCKljY2 > wEFfSE05MfKC3ClAGGfgm84LTq19Ur37yiafCAv70eOyCROs4MDs96+ULcUqmfyy > mdCCjJlX56FTMhjYL1vTLrxQ4Qjb1hk8aYblrlJSZ7kkSopdQJSrcvw6uGt2ruTB > JoAKuCOzujA= > =a62E > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchize at myrealbox.com Mon Oct 2 09:10:37 2006 From: tchize at myrealbox.com (Tchize) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:10:37 +0200 Subject: Deactivate use of kde in gtk based application Message-ID: <4520D78D.3080608@myrealbox.com> Hello, can someone tell me how to deactivate the use of kde style in gtk based applications? I have tried to do it in "gtk styles and font" in kde configuration interface, but i can only switch between "use kde style" and "use xyz style", there is no "leave gtk alone" or alike box. It's nice to see kde buttons inside firefox, but it has it's own problems 1) I can not scroll anymore using the scroll bar in an eclipse popup since kde handle it (It was working perfectly before a switch from debian to ubuntu) and it's a pain in the ass 2) I have some reasons to suspect it might be the cause of an xorg memory leak (after about 1 hour of using my kubuntu, xorg uses about 800M of memory and do't release it when i log off) From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Mon Oct 2 11:34:16 2006 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:34:16 +1000 Subject: Re Kubuntu 6.10 beta-desktop i386-has Alzeimers Message-ID: <4520F938.8050606@ozemail.com.au> Hi I write this at a resolution of 640x 480 at 60Hz, and it seems unrecoverable, hopeless, my previous res of 1240x1280 at 60Hz gone, vanished. This release was going great on my ATI, AMD Venice core 3000+, 1.5g ram machine, rebooted several times no problems, but after a complete shutdown and later reboot, it got Alzeimers and forgot its x settings it seems. It cannot be changed, still sees the ATI card and plug and pray monitor, but no more than 640x480 even as root. Done this to me on 2 installs, different HDD's. Anyone else found this behaviour I wonder, and is it fixable? It fixed LTS's screen freezing with screensavers at least. Best Rod Lovett From gcarst at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 11:43:26 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:43:26 +0200 Subject: Mouse and edgy eft Message-ID: I have a laptop that has a mouse problem: It 'sails' as if drunk. I dual boot on this machine with ubuntu hoary as the other OS. On this machine the mouse is all right. Log for kubuntu says: (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.1.1 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.6 .. while log for hoary says.. (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 Any suggestions ? thanks, Gunner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgvirtual at akl.lt Mon Oct 2 11:51:55 2006 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:51:55 +0300 Subject: connect to lan? In-Reply-To: References: <4520D23F.9020506@akl.lt> Message-ID: <4520FD5B.7010001@akl.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gunner wrote: > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart > > in a terminal could be the geeky way of doing it > > /gunner Hey thank you, it works; is there a graphical program for that? To see all the process in a newbie way.... :) Donatas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBRSD9W/DtAb8AVdgrAQJVewP/SC7cwPdmGfwbo75fkDAJugbH1kR5Njto TBWG20lVR99z832v+oII91IsleCjeXLMmKyCd3tpDLPzr0HpiQSRH/Z5KCLcbYrq XIoPOHpPClAAT8wM1GHt139O3hGWMDsof90n380RzCx7Os1RsSA05pGKQkH/9IXz djzA8wJrtDE= =T6fX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gcarst at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 12:06:39 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:06:39 +0200 Subject: connect to lan? In-Reply-To: <4520FD5B.7010001@akl.lt> References: <4520D23F.9020506@akl.lt> <4520FD5B.7010001@akl.lt> Message-ID: of course there are, but thats a bit too slow for me, so others have to answer that ;-) Cheers /gunner 2006/10/2, Donatas G. : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gunner wrote: > > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart > > > > in a terminal could be the geeky way of doing it > > > > /gunner > > Hey thank you, it works; is there a graphical program for that? To see > all the process in a newbie way.... :) > > Donatas > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iQCVAwUBRSD9W/DtAb8AVdgrAQJVewP/SC7cwPdmGfwbo75fkDAJugbH1kR5Njto > TBWG20lVR99z832v+oII91IsleCjeXLMmKyCd3tpDLPzr0HpiQSRH/Z5KCLcbYrq > XIoPOHpPClAAT8wM1GHt139O3hGWMDsof90n380RzCx7Os1RsSA05pGKQkH/9IXz > djzA8wJrtDE= > =T6fX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From argos3 at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 12:12:51 2006 From: argos3 at gmail.com (jorge leguisamo) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:12:51 +0200 Subject: hello and help Message-ID: <45210243.6010805@gmail.com> Hello I am running kubuntu in an Omnibook 900 Pentium II. Can t find out how to set up a wireless card belkin g 54. I am trying with wireless assistant 0.5.5 , it recognizes the nets but can not connect my card... Help! :-( thanks jorge From gcarst at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 12:18:54 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:18:54 +0200 Subject: hello and help In-Reply-To: <45210243.6010805@gmail.com> References: <45210243.6010805@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2006/10/2, jorge leguisamo : > > Hello > I am running kubuntu in an Omnibook 900 Pentium II. > Can t find out how to set up a wireless card belkin g 54. > I am trying with wireless assistant 0.5.5 , it recognizes the nets but > can not connect my card... Sounds a bit more like trouble accessing the wfi access point than using the card... Try shutting off all verification first and get that to work. (NB: if nogo paste output of ' ifconfig' here so we can see if it gets an IP ) ml Gunner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hofstett at sh-sw.de Mon Oct 2 14:45:20 2006 From: hofstett at sh-sw.de (Siggi) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 16:45:20 +0200 Subject: No Pairing BT Headset Ericson HBH-610a Message-ID: <200610021645.20752.hofstett@sh-sw.de> Hello Group, I tried several descriptions on the Ubuntu Forums with no success. For any reason i'm not able to pair my headset with my laptop. I want to use my Ericson HBH-610a Headset in my Kubuntu Edgy Installation. Fllowing software i have installed: aptitude search bluez bluez-btsco bluez-cups bluez-hcidump bluez-pcmcia-support bluez-pin bluez-utils - This is my little script with i try to pair my laptop with my BT Headset: #!/bin/bash hciconfig hci0 revision: hci0: Type: USB BD Address: 00:16:41:5C:39:BE ACL MTU: 384:8 SCO MTU: 64:8 Build 2422 Chip version: BlueCore4-External Max key size: 56 bit SCO mapping: HCI hciconfig hci0 voice 0x0060 hcitool scan 00:12:EE:AB:EB:6C HBH-610a btsco -v 00:12:EE:AB:EB:6C btsco v0.4c Device is 1:0 Voice setting: 0x0060 Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Connection refused I had also a hcidump running during the script, which shows me: > ACL data: handle 46 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0054 scid 0x0041 result 1 status 1 Connection pending - Authentication pending > HCI Event: PIN Code Request (0x16) plen 6 < HCI Command: PIN Code Request Negative Reply (0x01|0x000e) plen 6 > HCI Event: Command Complete (0x0e) plen 10 > ACL data: handle 46 flags 0x02 dlen 16 L2CAP(s): Connect rsp: dcid 0x0054 scid 0x0041 result 3 status 0 Connection refused - security block Here my configs hcid.conf # HCId options options { autoinit yes; security auto; pairing multi; pin_helper /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin } # Default settings for HCI devices device { name "%h-%d"; class 0x100; iscan enable; pscan enable; lm accept; lp rswitch,hold,sniff,park; } rfcomm.conf rfcomm0 { bind yes; device "BT-MAC" channel 1; comment "HBH-610a"; } Any help is very appreciated ! ;o) Thanks in advance. -- MfG Siggi From ejviolet at yahoo.com Mon Oct 2 14:49:47 2006 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 07:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re Kubuntu 6.10 beta-desktop i386-has Alzeimers In-Reply-To: <4520F938.8050606@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <20061002144947.48891.qmail@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had this happen a couple of times when I first installed. I ran the reconfigure X (whatever it is called) at the login. After a couple of times, it remembered (for now anyway). If you tried that, I have no ideas. Earl --- Rod Lovett wrote: > Hi I write this at a resolution of 640x 480 at 60Hz, and it seems > unrecoverable, hopeless, my previous res of 1240x1280 at 60Hz gone, > > vanished. > This release was going great on my ATI, AMD Venice core 3000+, 1.5g > ram > machine, rebooted several times no problems, but after a complete > shutdown and later reboot, it got Alzeimers and forgot its x > settings it > seems. > It cannot be changed, still sees the ATI card and plug and pray > monitor, > but no more than 640x480 even as root. > Done this to me on 2 installs, different HDD's. > Anyone else found this behaviour I wonder, and is it fixable? > It fixed LTS's screen freezing with screensavers at least. > Best > Rod Lovett > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From johndecarlo at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 14:57:55 2006 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:57:55 -0400 Subject: No need to give password anymore?? In-Reply-To: <451EFB41.1080902@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <451E9E35.2050708@bellsouth.net> <451EFB41.1080902@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <3dde113c0610020757q5a09cefeodf697b9df8f2c4a6@mail.gmail.com> On 9/30/06, Tez wrote: > Steven Pasternak wrote: > > Hi! On Kubuntu 6.06, I updated the other day and since then I haven't > > had to give the password to do any admin stuff. Is that supposed to > > happen? It seems a little insecure to me. Thanks! > > > > > Check if your user is in the sudo group, if it is then that's why you > don't have to give a password anymore. If you want the old way back, > just remove the user from the sudo group. Tez, Can you elaborate? Because I don't understand. As a member of the sudo group, I still used to have to type in my password when doing any sudo activities. Has this changed, or is there a bug? -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Mon Oct 2 15:05:45 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:05:45 -0400 Subject: Re Kubuntu 6.10 beta-desktop i386-has Alzeimers In-Reply-To: <4520F938.8050606@ozemail.com.au> References: <4520F938.8050606@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <200610021105.45514.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> On Monday 02 October 2006 07:34, Rod Lovett wrote: Try reading this thread. Instructions like this helped be jump from 800x600. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21984 Hope this helps, Bob -- Whoever has lived long enough to find out what life is, knows how deep a debt of gratitude we owe to Adam, the first great benefactor of our race. He brought death into the world. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Mon Oct 2 15:15:49 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:15:49 -0400 Subject: Re Kubuntu 6.10 beta-desktop i386-has Alzeimers In-Reply-To: <20061002144947.48891.qmail@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061002144947.48891.qmail@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610021115.49254.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> On Monday 02 October 2006 10:49, Earl Violet wrote: > I had this happen a couple of times when I first installed. I ran the > reconfigure X (whatever it is called) at the login. After a couple of > times, it remembered (for now anyway). If you tried that, I have no > ideas. > > Earl I believe that the command is: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I had this same problem and I think the above line fixed it. -- All say, "How hard it is that we have to die"--a strange complaint to come from the mouths of people who have had to live. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Oct 2 15:49:11 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:49:11 -0700 Subject: connect to lan? References: <4520D23F.9020506@akl.lt> Message-ID: <87ejtqk9ag.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Donatas G." writes: > If I connect my laptop to lan before turning it on, I get connection to > lan automatically, but if I just plug in the lan cable when kubuntu is > already running, I do not have lan connection. > > How do I connect to lan in such circumstances? Up to now all I know is > do reboot. Check out laptop-net -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu Mon Oct 2 16:18:09 2006 From: cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu (Christopher J. Bottaro) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:18:09 -0500 Subject: removing packages and dependencies Message-ID: How to I remove package A and all the packages that package A depends on that aren't being used by other packages. This is different that "apt-get remove package_A" which removes package A and all packages that depend on package A. Thanks for the help, -- C From r12191020 at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 16:53:49 2006 From: r12191020 at gmail.com (Rey X) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:53:49 -0700 Subject: GRUB Message-ID: <3e8e9a890610020953x93a8afdxeed3710e2199e065@mail.gmail.com> I changed the splash on GRUB and now the menu selection is not highlighted so I can not see what OS I select. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <4520D23F.9020506@akl.lt> <87ejtqk9ag.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Donatas G." writes: > >> If I connect my laptop to lan before turning it on, I get connection to >> lan automatically, but if I just plug in the lan cable when kubuntu is >> already running, I do not have lan connection. >> >> How do I connect to lan in such circumstances? Up to now all I know is >> do reboot. > > Check out laptop-net > network-manager-kde! Works great if it understands your hardware, otoh it may not work at all :-( -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Oct 2 16:38:22 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:38:22 -0300 Subject: removing packages and dependencies References: Message-ID: Christopher J. Bottaro wrote: > How to I remove package A and all the packages that package A depends on > that aren't being used by other packages. > > This is different that "apt-get remove package_A" which removes package A > and all packages that depend on package A. The short answer is: not easily. If you do all your installs with aptitude, then, when aptitude removes a package, it removes all packages no longer needed - but they have to have been installed with aptitude in the first place. Or you can manually go through all your packages using "aptitude markauto PACKAGE" for the ones that you want removed if they aren't needed - then in future just use aptitude. What I originally did was iirc "aptitude markauto ~Nlib*". Careful though - it will want to remove a few lib* packages that really shouldn't be marked as automatic. That gets rid of the majority of packages that are only dependencies, but I still put in a lot of time checking every single package. -- derek From brymelvin at melvinart.com Mon Oct 2 17:45:28 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re Kubuntu 6.10 beta-desktop i386-has Alzeimers In-Reply-To: <4520F938.8050606@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <20061002174528.571.qmail@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rod Lovett wrote: Hi I write this at a resolution of 640x 480 at 60Hz, and it seems unrecoverable, hopeless, my previous res of 1240x1280 at 60Hz gone, vanished. This release was going great on my ATI, AMD Venice core 3000+, 1.5g ram machine, rebooted several times no problems, but after a complete shutdown and later reboot, it got Alzeimers and forgot its x settings it seems. It cannot be changed, still sees the ATI card and plug and pray monitor, but no more than 640x480 even as root. Done this to me on 2 installs, different HDD's. Anyone else found this behaviour I wonder, and is it fixable? It fixed LTS's screen freezing with screensavers at least. Best Rod Lovett -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users This may not work in ALL situations, but if your display worked before it probably will. It also fills a hole in Ubuntu for various configuration changes to be done from a GUI. I've used it to move an HD to a different computer when I had a motherboard failure too: install the configure-debian package then from the command line sudo configure-debian. It's much better than searching a lot of manpages and fixing things. At least for those that don;t have configuration file settings committed to memory :-) Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Mon Oct 2 18:23:41 2006 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 20:23:41 +0200 Subject: Recovering deleted files In-Reply-To: <880dece00609301434p3d5c6ebfy76e5c2fc493c074e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00609300920i4fa2850ma8f3d365c419a54d@mail.gmail.com> <200609301309.49697.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00609301434p3d5c6ebfy76e5c2fc493c074e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610022023.41293.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> On Saturday 30 September 2006 23:34, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 30/09/06, claydoh wrote: > > On Saturday 30 September 2006 12:20 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > I'm not sure what I did, but all the files in my > > > /home/dotancohen/Photos directory are gone. The directory in question > > > is on a seperate disk partition from the rest of the system. What > > > tools can I use to recover the files? > > > > > > It is an ext3 filesystem. As soon as I discovered the error I stopped > > > using it, but it is still mounted. I'm on the latest up-to-date > > > Kubuntu. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > http://what-is-what.com > > > > Recovering files on ext3 is very difficult and not usually worth the > > effort. BUT I have had some success once using a set of tools called > > testdisk to recover *some* images from a hard drive: > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/testdisk > > > > It contains a tool called photorec that is used specifically to recover > > image files. > > > > Check out these pages for some info: > > http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec and > > http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk > > Thank you, PhotoRec did the job. > > Well, it _did_ do the job, and then ten minutes later the photos were > gone again. I rebooted and ran the program again- it says that it > finds ~4000 files (that's about right), and when I exit and open Konqi > they are not there. > > I don't know why, but I got a stupid idea to remount the partition to > another mount point- and it worked... The pictures show up in the new > mount point. I don't know why I thought of that, and I don't know why > it worked. > > I just backed everything up, but I'd still like to know what could be > the cause of the files disappearing. I'm a little uneasy with things > now, lest I should lose more data. > > Dotan Cohen > http://gmail-com.com -- Check if you didn't mount different things on the same point... One hides the other! Karl Have a look at www.kubuntu.org From brymelvin at melvinart.com Mon Oct 2 18:57:57 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061002185757.30658.qmail@web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Juan Carlos Torres wrote:SNIP h ones to include in the album. If you want to simply make HTML galleries from a directory, you could try using Konqueror. Go to the directory that contains the images you want to make into a gallery, the in the Tools menu, select Create Image Gallery. You will be given some options, like what size you want the thumbnails to be. Then you could just replicate the directory (with the images and the thumbs folder, of course) on your web server. This works well and simply....If you would like to see a sample of this....I used it for our local 4h website. http://arivaca4h.melvinart.com click on photo album Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not definitive answer, > but for what I know the main difference for backward compatibility is > that 2.0 ports usually give higher power levels (the hard drive needs > external power on some 1.1 ports, not all of them). > HTH, > Ignazio > > -- > Ignazio Palmisano > Ph.D. Student - palmisano at di.uniba.it, ignazio_io at yahoo.it > > -- The power is based on the hub's spec's. Some can supply more than others. Plugging a 2.0 device into a 1.x port will make that device perform at 1.x speed. From gcarst at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 19:16:21 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:16:21 +0200 Subject: edgy eft and nvidia card Message-ID: I have trouble getting my nvidia card to work: I get the error shown beneath. Any ideas how I can get around this ? thanks, Gunner xauth: creating new authority file /home/gunner/.serverauth.4821 X Window System Version 7.1.1 Release Date: 12 May 2006 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.15.7 i686 Current Operating System: Linux zepto 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Mon Oct 2 00:04:03 UTC 2006 i686 Build Date: 07 July 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 2 21:05:18 2006 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.8774, but this X module is version 1.0.7184. Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version. (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure (EE) NVIDIA(0): that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and (EE) NVIDIA(0): that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly. (EE) NVIDIA(0): Please consult the NVIDIA README for details. (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"^M after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.^M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 21:23:19 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:23:19 +0200 Subject: Recovering deleted files In-Reply-To: <200610022023.41293.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <880dece00609300920i4fa2850ma8f3d365c419a54d@mail.gmail.com> <200609301309.49697.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00609301434p3d5c6ebfy76e5c2fc493c074e@mail.gmail.com> <200610022023.41293.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <880dece00610021423k4fbefad3y8010e55a4cc77a0b@mail.gmail.com> On 02/10/06, Karl wrote: > Check if you didn't mount different things on the same point... > One hides the other! > No, that I certainly didn't do! But now everything seems to be fine... I hope that it stays that way. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 21:25:28 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:25:28 +0200 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <200610010813.12367.rscrawford@mossroot.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610011052.26315.claydoh@claydoh.com> <200610010813.12367.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610021425x54fcce3ao4d685da35891b6c@mail.gmail.com> On 01/10/06, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I've missed many of the earlier posts in this thread, so many this has already > been brought up. Have you tried Gallery? > > http://gallery.menalto.com/ > Gallery is nice, and F-Spot has an Exprot To Gallery function. Dotan http://gmail-com.com From aprestn5 at telus.net Mon Oct 2 06:06:01 2006 From: aprestn5 at telus.net (Alastair Preston) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 00:06:01 -0600 Subject: K3b is toast right now. In-Reply-To: <200610012235.42948.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <200610012235.42948.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200610020006.01770.aprestn5@telus.net> On Sunday 01 October 2006 23:35, Rob Blomquist wrote: > Last time I used it, it worked great, but today, for some unknown reason it > will not even load its GUI on my machine. > > I used to use the CL to figure out what was bugging a program that would > not load. But since Ubuntu is configured to not allow that, I have no idea > how to fix up k3b. > > I will take any help, as I am lost. > -- > Mountlake Terrace, WA I've had that happen with K3B on both Kubuntu and Mandriva on one of my machines, particularly if said machine has been running for a while. The problem never seems to occur on another machine. Restarting X has usually got it going again for me . BTW, to get to a root console with Kubuntu, you can either create a root password with "sudo passwd root" then use su as in other distros, or just use "sudo su" Al Preston From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 21:27:34 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:27:34 +0200 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <200610012001.14951.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <200610012001.14951.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610021427v5e38fbd9u463a75b5dad594d8@mail.gmail.com> On 02/10/06, claydoh wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2006 7:37 pm, Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > > > If you want to simply make HTML galleries from a directory, you could try > > using Konqueror. Go to the directory that contains the images you want to > > make into a gallery, the in the Tools menu, select Create Image Gallery. > > You will be given some options, like what size you want the thumbnails to > > be. > > > > Then you could just replicate the directory (with the images and the thumbs > > folder, of course) on your web server. > > Whoa! > Utterly @#*^*^% amazing! > It is becoming harder to find things Konqueror *can't* do! > /me wanders off, in search of how to edit the template used for the album... > Astounding! Did you figure out how to edit those templates? I'd certainly use this if I could customise it. Amazing. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From toby at tarind.com Mon Oct 2 21:37:17 2006 From: toby at tarind.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:37:17 +0100 Subject: DigiKam and ACL References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <452070B2.1030205@blueyonder.co.uk> <200610020929.45056.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: >> I'd like to have a folder shared between my wife and me, >> containing our DigiKam albums. Thats how I use digikam here. It works well. >> You could try setting setting the GID bit on the directory, >> chmod g+s sharedfolder/ that way all the files created will have >> the same group Yes, that definitely ensures that any files created in that directory will be given the same group as that directory. Digikam works well with this. [You may already have done this, but this configuration also needs you to have created a group containing both you and your wife. For this example lets call this group "family". Then change the group of the shared directory: "chgrp family sharedfolder". Or add -R if you already have some files in that directory which need their group changed over: "chgrp -R family sharedfolder". Any *new* files created in that directory will now be given the group "family"] >> and group permissions: No..... Digikam (and almost everything else) uses umask to determine the permissions of the files it creates. (k)ubuntu currently sets the umask to 002 for shell logins (via /etc/profile), but uses 022 for graphical processes started via kdm/gdm. Im not sure why; this has always seems somewhat counterproductive. I recommend adding "session optional pam_umask.so umask=002" to /etc/pam.d/common-session. This sets the umask to 002 for all logins. I hope this helps, From andy.hunter at rogers.com Mon Oct 2 22:17:16 2006 From: andy.hunter at rogers.com (Andrew Hunter) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 18:17:16 -0400 Subject: Edgy: USB HC takeover failed! In-Reply-To: <45215159.8070009@upf.edu> References: <45215159.8070009@upf.edu> Message-ID: <200610021817.21662.andy.hunter@rogers.com> On Monday 02 October 2006 13:50, Eduard wrote: > I am running edgy beta with the generic kernel, and when booting i get > this message > [17179584.992000] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: USB HC takeover failed! > (BIOS/SMM bug) > which i relate to my mouse not working. > The strange thing is that sometimes -i am not completely sure- my mouse > worked fine when i plugged it after booting. > I have tried looking at launchpad bugs list and i didn't succeed (it has > been my first time searching for bugs). Can someone tell me something > about this problem, please? Please post a bug report on launchpad. Thanks. -- "First, God created idiots. But that was just for practise, then he made school boards." -Mark Twain -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gunner wrote: > I have trouble getting my nvidia card to work: > I get the error shown beneath. > > Any ideas how I can get around this ? > > thanks, > Gunner > > xauth: creating new authority file /home/gunner/.serverauth.4821 > > X Window System Version 7.1.1 > Release Date: 12 May 2006 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1 > Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.15.7 i686 > Current Operating System: Linux zepto 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Mon Oct > 2 00:04:03 UTC 2006 i686 > Build Date: 07 July 2006 > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 2 21:05:18 2006 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > > Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.8774, but > this X module is version 1.0.7184. Please be sure that your kernel > module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version. > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please > ensure > (EE) NVIDIA(0): that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this > system, and > (EE) NVIDIA(0): that the NVIDIA device files have been created > properly. > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Please consult the NVIDIA README for details. > (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"^M > after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.^M > From eduard.bonet at upf.edu Mon Oct 2 23:50:06 2006 From: eduard.bonet at upf.edu (Eduard) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:50:06 +0200 Subject: Edgy: USB HC takeover failed! In-Reply-To: <200610021817.21662.andy.hunter@rogers.com> References: <45215159.8070009@upf.edu> <200610021817.21662.andy.hunter@rogers.com> Message-ID: <4521A5AE.2010300@upf.edu> Andrew Hunter wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2006 13:50, Eduard wrote: >> I am running edgy beta with the generic kernel, and when booting i get >> this message >> [17179584.992000] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0b.0: USB HC takeover failed! >> (BIOS/SMM bug) >> which i relate to my mouse not working. >> The strange thing is that sometimes -i am not completely sure- my mouse >> worked fine when i plugged it after booting. >> I have tried looking at launchpad bugs list and i didn't succeed (it has >> been my first time searching for bugs). Can someone tell me something >> about this problem, please? > > > Please post a bug report on launchpad. > > Thanks. > Done! My first bug reported is 63651. From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Tue Oct 3 00:14:23 2006 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:14:23 +1000 Subject: Re Re Kubuntu 6.10 beta-desktop i386-has Alzeimers for Xwindow settings Message-ID: <4521AB5F.3010705@ozemail.com.au> I mentioned Kubuntu 6.10 beta -desktop-i386 having Alzeimers for its X-window graphics settings, giving only 640x480 resolution after a cold boot, a serious bug do you not agree? Also Kubuntu LTS suffers Alzeimers for its power settings to shut down your monitor after cold booting. So in LTS the monitor blazes away all day unless you rermember to configure it each time, and unless one removes screensavers the display freezes too in some conflict with the power settings, nuisance, not so serious I guess. Best Rod From leomcabral at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 00:31:29 2006 From: leomcabral at gmail.com (Leonardo de Miranda Cabral) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:31:29 -0300 Subject: VoIP and KDE Message-ID: <200610022131.32416.leomcabral@gmail.com> Is there any voip program targeting KDE? I mean build to run on it? -- ---------------------------------- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eqisow at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 00:47:12 2006 From: eqisow at gmail.com (Justin) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 20:47:12 -0400 Subject: VoIP and KDE In-Reply-To: <200610022131.32416.leomcabral@gmail.com> References: <200610022131.32416.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: By targeting KDE, do you mean built qith Qt? There's something called kphone in the repositories, but I've never tried it. The default for Ubuntu is Ekiga, and while it uses gtk, KDE has pretty good integration for gtk apps. Wengo Phone is another option, although I don't know what toolkit that one uses either. If you don't mind going closed source, Skype works very well for me as long as you stay away from the beta, On 10/2/06, Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > > Is there any voip program targeting KDE? I mean build to run on it? > -- > ---------------------------------- > Leonardo de Miranda Cabral > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The only work around is to not let the screen saver kick in with the VM as the active window, but that's a PITA to remember. I've looked, but see nothing suspicious in the Xorg.log file. The problem starts with a KDE crash dialog, but there is no debugging associated with it and nothing in my system log. Can anyone figure out what's crashing or how to trouble shoot? Paul From leomcabral at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 01:23:01 2006 From: leomcabral at gmail.com (Leonardo de Miranda Cabral) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:23:01 -0300 Subject: VoIP and KDE In-Reply-To: References: <200610022131.32416.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610022223.04121.leomcabral@gmail.com> Em Segunda 02 Outubro 2006 21:47, Justin escreveu: > By targeting KDE, do you mean built qith Qt? > > There's something called kphone in the repositories, but I've never tried > it. The default for Ubuntu is Ekiga, and while it uses gtk, KDE has pretty > good integration for gtk apps. > The problem with kphone is it seems to work only in private SIP networks (maybe I mistake) > Wengo Phone is another option, although I don't know what toolkit that one > uses either. > i'll try it > If you don't mind going closed source, Skype works very well for me as long > as you stay away from the beta, > > On 10/2/06, Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > > Is there any voip program targeting KDE? I mean build to run on it? > > -- > > ---------------------------------- > > Leonardo de Miranda Cabral > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- ---------------------------------- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The default for Ubuntu is Ekiga, and while it uses gtk, KDE has > > pretty good integration for gtk apps. > > The problem with kphone is it seems to work only in private SIP networks > (maybe I mistake) > > > Wengo Phone is another option, although I don't know what toolkit that > > one uses either. > > i'll try it > > > If you don't mind going closed source, Skype works very well for me as > > long as you stay away from the beta, > > > > On 10/2/06, Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > > > Is there any voip program targeting KDE? I mean build to run on it? > > > -- I like Twinkle, it has some extra functions that Ekiga doesn't have, and it appears to be a KDE app. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From machines at centurytel.net Tue Oct 3 03:34:09 2006 From: machines at centurytel.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:34:09 -0500 Subject: Adept Locked In-Reply-To: <200610020614.25081.frode@ubuntu.com> References: <200610012304.09192.machines@centurytel.net> <200610020614.25081.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200610022234.09519.machines@centurytel.net> On Sunday 01 October 2006 11:14 pm, Frode M. Døving wrote: > Hi Marc. > > Try to run this command from konsole: > $ 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a' > > That will ask you if you want to kill the process locking the dpkg > database. > > > - Frode > > Mandag 02 oktober 2006 06:04, skrev Marc: > > When I try to run adept from the gui I am getting this error message. > > > > You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, > > remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the > > packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or > > apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using > > this one. > > > > If I run sudo adept from console I get this error message. > > [cut] > > > After that adept opens but it is locked. I can not add or remove any > > packages. Does anyone know how to fix this problem. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Marc Thanks that fixed it Marc From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Tue Oct 3 04:13:05 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 00:13:05 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy amd64 bit (not for me) Message-ID: <200610030013.05262.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Well, it was a fun weekend, after 32 hours, of loading & unloading ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu 64bit Distro, on a Gateway AMD64 4000+ laptop with broadcom wireless... I had to dump the 64 bit Distro all togther, and go with the 32bit kubuntu. at least, I can boot correctly, instead of doing the command line thing, sudo aptitude update... and wait for the magic update component, to fix the problem. prehaps in the near future 64bit will be more supported (Tuned). The funny thing is, next year, we will have quad processors. to deal with. Regards - Rich Kubuntu user for life. ( or until another ubuntu comes out ) From adeel.javaid at cresbank.com Tue Oct 3 04:14:49 2006 From: adeel.javaid at cresbank.com (Addel Javaid) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:14:49 +0500 Subject: Archive in Thunderbird Message-ID: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> how can i archive in thunderbird any one can help me??? Regards Adeel Jawed From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Tue Oct 3 04:55:25 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:55:25 -0700 Subject: KDM won't allow login (not accepting password) Message-ID: <1196327.O0IXUmMbam@angrykeyboarder.com> I had this problem months ago in Dapper (but never found a solution). Now I've decided to give it a go again in Edgy. Just like before I have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed. I've been using GDM but decided to switch to KDM. So I .... $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm And selected KDM as my choice. Then I rebooted. KDM appears. I enter my name and password. The screen blanks for a moment and I'm returned to the KDM login screen. I try logging in again. Same result. Just for heck of it. I went into a virtual terminal, logged in and did $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and I selected KDM. Then I $sudo dpkg-reconfigure KDM and I selected KDM. Then I rebooted. Nothing changed. The problem remains. Then I tried. $apt-get remove gdm followed by $sudo dpkg --configure kdm. Then I rebooted. The problem still remained. I gave up and went back to GDM. Any idea what's causing this and/or how I can fix it? Thanks. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From brymelvin at melvinart.com Tue Oct 3 04:57:27 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 21:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <880dece00610021427v5e38fbd9u463a75b5dad594d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061003045727.18328.qmail@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dotan Cohen wrote:SNIP > It is becoming harder to find things Konqueror *can't* do! > /me wanders off, in search of how to edit the template used for the album... > Astounding! Did you figure out how to edit those templates? I'd certainly use this if I could customise it. Amazing. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users After getting the Album pages started with Konqueror and then placed in a trial site folder, I edit and customize as neccessary, then publish to the web site with NVU . Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Tue Oct 3 05:18:03 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:18:03 -0700 Subject: removing packages and dependencies References: Message-ID: <2453683.IPoJ46N2gU@angrykeyboarder.com> On Monday 02 October 2006 09:18 am, Christopher J. Bottaro (cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu) spake thusly: > How to I remove package A and all the packages that package A depends > on that aren't being used by other packages. > > This is different that "apt-get remove package_A" which removes > package A and all packages that depend on package A. > > Thanks for the help, > -- C The deborphan package can be helpful in this area. $ sudo apt-get install deborphan $ man deborphan -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From brymelvin at melvinart.com Tue Oct 3 05:43:18 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: lines in image when printing In-Reply-To: <452027C9.3050809@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20061003054318.32570.qmail@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Harold Hartley wrote:SNIP > > > Maybe I'll have to save my pennies to get a different printer, but for my case is very difficult because I live in a nursing home. I'm not complaining, but I just wanted to note my budget. :) Maybe if I play around with the settings, I may get it right since when I use to use mandriva, it printed just fine for everything, but now I'm using kubuntu and I did notice when booting, it was loading a HP linux print and image system. But I now need to investigate into this more. Harold P.S. thanks for the info you gave me to help figure things out. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I have run into a few problems with Ubuntu's implementationof HPILP, however those were mainly with C3100 multifunction printers,( I have filed a bug report on that) however I have not recently tried any printers of your vintage as mine of that vintage have long since worn out, the oldest printers I have now are 1100 (large format) and 800 series.(letter size) I now compile my own HPILP from source rather than fight with the repository version. This might be worth trying. HP gives complete instructions including the needed libraries and might be worthwhile even if you haven't compiled before. You might also try the gimprint driver for graphics printing. This might be an easier solution. Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I went into a virtual terminal, logged in and did > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm > > and I selected KDM. > > Then I > > $sudo dpkg-reconfigure KDM > > and I selected KDM. > > Then I rebooted. > > Nothing changed. The problem remains. > > Then I tried. > > $apt-get remove gdm > > followed by > > $sudo dpkg --configure kdm. > > Then I rebooted. > > The problem still remained. > > I gave up and went back to GDM. > > Any idea what's causing this and/or how I can fix it? > > Thanks. > -- > Scott > http://angrykeyboarder.com > (c) 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchize at myrealbox.com Tue Oct 3 06:45:41 2006 From: tchize at myrealbox.com (Tchize) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:45:41 +0200 Subject: KDM won't allow login (not accepting password) In-Reply-To: <1196327.O0IXUmMbam@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <1196327.O0IXUmMbam@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <45220715.6020402@myrealbox.com> Did you try installing kde-desktop? Also, in kdm, what is available in menu -> session-type ? This all looks to me like kdm is trying to start either a kde session while kde is not fully installed or trying to load in another obscure mode, but not in gnome mode. Try to select another session type. Scott a écrit : > I had this problem months ago in Dapper (but never found a solution). > > Now I've decided to give it a go again in Edgy. > > Just like before I have both Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed. > > I've been using GDM but decided to switch to KDM. > > So I .... > > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm > > And selected KDM as my choice. > > Then I rebooted. KDM appears. I enter my name and password. The > screen blanks for a moment and I'm returned to the KDM login screen. > > I try logging in again. Same result. > > Just for heck of it. I went into a virtual terminal, logged in and did > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm > > and I selected KDM. > > Then I > > $sudo dpkg-reconfigure KDM > > and I selected KDM. > > Then I rebooted. > > Nothing changed. The problem remains. > > Then I tried. > > $apt-get remove gdm > > followed by > > $sudo dpkg --configure kdm. > > Then I rebooted. > > The problem still remained. > > I gave up and went back to GDM. > > Any idea what's causing this and/or how I can fix it? > > Thanks. > From gcarst at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 06:45:26 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:45:26 +0200 Subject: Archive in Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> References: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> Message-ID: can you elaborate a bit more on what you exactly want to do ? /gunner 2006/10/3, Addel Javaid : > > how can i archive in thunderbird any one can help me??? > > Regards > > Adeel Jawed > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gunner wrote: > can you elaborate a bit more on what you exactly want to do ? > > /gunner > > 2006/10/3, Addel Javaid >: > > how can i archive in thunderbird any one can help me??? > > Regards > > Adeel Jawed > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From gcarst at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 06:56:32 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:56:32 +0200 Subject: Archive in Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <45220828.2050503@cresbank.com> References: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> <45220828.2050503@cresbank.com> Message-ID: I use backupmanager for that. it's easy to set up, supports ssh, ftp, rsync and has a sceduler for setting up when to do what. Not specific for tunderbird, though... /gunner 2006/10/3, Addel Javaid : > > i have approximately 3G.B mails now i want to archive my email. > > Gunner wrote: > > can you elaborate a bit more on what you exactly want to do ? > > > > /gunner > > > > 2006/10/3, Addel Javaid > >: > > > > how can i archive in thunderbird any one can help me??? > > > > Regardsd > > > > Adeel Jawed > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 08:45:05 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:45:05 +0200 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <20061003045727.18328.qmail@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <880dece00610021427v5e38fbd9u463a75b5dad594d8@mail.gmail.com> <20061003045727.18328.qmail@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610030145w7549724dlb63799348182c3c7@mail.gmail.com> On 03/10/06, Bry Melvin wrote: > After getting the Album pages started with Konqueror and then placed in a > trial site folder, I edit and customize as neccessary, then publish to the > web site with NVU . Ah, with 200+ I'm not about to do that! Oh well. Dotan From marcel at spitau.de Tue Oct 3 10:33:04 2006 From: marcel at spitau.de (Marcel A. W. Spitau) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:33:04 +0200 Subject: Photo applications In-Reply-To: <451F882C.1040003@gmail.com> References: <451F882C.1040003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610031233.30347.marcel@spitau.de> Hi there, Am Sonntag, 1. Oktober 2006 11:19 schrieb Orjan Sinclair: > Sorry Digikam but such a simple thing (to me) as mailing from within > the app does not work where as the non-Linux Picasa can sort that. > Problem with multiple pics though (mailing that is). Of course Digikam is able to send mails from itself. Try to install the kipi-plugins. I tried this picase thing, and I find out that it is not so professional, like they want it to be. Digikam is a realy great software. Give it a try (longer than 5 minutes) CU Marcel -- Marcel A. W. Spitau Schlicksweg 12 22307 Hamburg Tel. +(49) 40 - 41368448 Faulheit ist, wenn jemand mit dem Coctailbecher in der Hand auf das nächste Erdbeben wartet. -- Danny Kaye (eig. Daniel David Sominski) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rlp1938 at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 12:00:37 2006 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:00:37 +0700 Subject: No need to give password anymore?? In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0610020757q5a09cefeodf697b9df8f2c4a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <451E9E35.2050708@bellsouth.net> <451EFB41.1080902@blueyonder.co.uk> <3dde113c0610020757q5a09cefeodf697b9df8f2c4a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340610030500h538e80fby58cdd9833e495875@mail.gmail.com> On 10/2/06, John DeCarlo wrote: > On 9/30/06, Tez wrote: > > Steven Pasternak wrote: > > > Hi! On Kubuntu 6.06, I updated the other day and since then I haven't > > > had to give the password to do any admin stuff. Is that supposed to > > > happen? It seems a little insecure to me. Thanks! > > > > > > > > Check if your user is in the sudo group, if it is then that's why you > > don't have to give a password anymore. If you want the old way back, > > just remove the user from the sudo group. > > Tez, > > Can you elaborate? Because I don't understand. > > As a member of the sudo group, I still used to have to type in my > password when doing any sudo activities. Has this changed, or is > there a bug? Probably just a different entry in the sudoers file 'NOPASSWD' or something like that. Man sudoers Bob -- On any list, if X is the bandwidth wasted on off-topic posts, NX is the bandwidth wasted on discussing the evils of off-topic posts where 5 <= N <= 10. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 12:14:53 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:14:53 +0200 Subject: Adept headaches In-Reply-To: <1196327.O0IXUmMbam@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <1196327.O0IXUmMbam@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <4522543D.7040904@gmail.com> Will try and explain my problem to the best of my knowledge. I have installed Klamav antivirus and it runs just fine. Unfortunately I chose to let it try and update Clamav, the underlying system. This did not work due to stuff such as "make" missing. And now these 3-4 packages are "blocking" Adept. Every update I do (or install) be it via Adept or apt-get I get an error that the installation failed even though most of the time that is not correct. It is just these very irrititaing packages "in the way". have run "sudo apt-get -f install" and sudo dpkg --configure -a with no luck. Any help appreciated, Sinclair From gcarst at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 12:32:04 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:32:04 +0200 Subject: Adept headaches In-Reply-To: <4522543D.7040904@gmail.com> References: <1196327.O0IXUmMbam@angrykeyboarder.com> <4522543D.7040904@gmail.com> Message-ID: mabe: apt-get remove clamav /gunner 2006/10/3, Orjan Sinclair : > > Will try and explain my problem to the best of my knowledge. > > I have installed Klamav antivirus and it runs just fine. Unfortunately I > chose to let it try and update Clamav, the underlying system. This did > not work due to stuff such as "make" missing. And now these 3-4 packages > are "blocking" Adept. Every update I do (or install) be it via Adept or > apt-get I get an error that the installation failed even though most of > the time that is not correct. It is just these very irrititaing packages > "in the way". > > have run "sudo apt-get -f install" and > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > with no luck. Any help appreciated, > Sinclair > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 12:49:24 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:49:24 +0200 Subject: Encoding DVD for use on PDA Message-ID: <880dece00610030549w5004bb49u6420715af2bae407@mail.gmail.com> What programs can one use to encode a DVD so that I can watch it on my Dell Axim? I see many such programs for Windows, but none advertise that they work on Linux. Note: I'm not trying to steal a movie. I have a few DVD's and I'd like to make use of my new GB SD card. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 13:27:12 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:27:12 +0200 Subject: Adept headaches In-Reply-To: References: <1196327.O0IXUmMbam@angrykeyboarder.com> <4522543D.7040904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45226530.2020108@gmail.com> Gunner wrote: > mabe: apt-get remove clamav > > /gunner > > 2006/10/3, Orjan Sinclair >: > > Will try and explain my problem to the best of my knowledge. > > I have installed Klamav antivirus and it runs just fine. > Unfortunately I > chose to let it try and update Clamav, the underlying system. This did > not work due to stuff such as "make" missing. And now these 3-4 > packages > are "blocking" Adept. Every update I do (or install) be it via > Adept or > apt-get I get an error that the installation failed even though > most of > the time that is not correct. It is just these very irrititaing > packages > "in the way". > > have run "sudo apt-get -f install" and > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > with no luck. Any help appreciated, > Sinclair > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Yep that did it. Had to reinstall Klamav afterwards but no problems. Thanks! Sinclair From eduard.bonet at upf.edu Tue Oct 3 14:23:57 2006 From: eduard.bonet at upf.edu (Eduard) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:23:57 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper Message-ID: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than with Edgy)? Thanks again in advance. From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Tue Oct 3 14:31:50 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:31:50 +0000 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> Message-ID: <20061003143150.GA32260@jabberpl.org> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:23:57PM +0200, Eduard wrote: > I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in > another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home > directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than > with Edgy)? It depends on used applcations. Some of them had config files / differents. Why do you want to use another usernames? If you really want to use another username, there will be no problem. > Thanks again in advance. -- http://glam.pl ciuchy vintage From eduard.bonet at upf.edu Tue Oct 3 14:39:55 2006 From: eduard.bonet at upf.edu (Eduard) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:39:55 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <20061003143150.GA32260@jabberpl.org> References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> <20061003143150.GA32260@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <4522763B.6030307@upf.edu> bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:23:57PM +0200, Eduard wrote: >> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in >> another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home >> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than >> with Edgy)? > > It depends on used applcations. Some of them had config files / differents. Why do you want to use another usernames? > > If you really want to use another username, there will be no problem. > >> Thanks again in advance. > just to avoid problems, because at the moment i don't feel comfortable trying to guess why is something going wrong. So no problem for grubs also and any other thing, ok? From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Tue Oct 3 14:49:58 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:49:58 +0000 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <4522763B.6030307@upf.edu> References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> <20061003143150.GA32260@jabberpl.org> <4522763B.6030307@upf.edu> Message-ID: <20061003144958.GA1572@jabberpl.org> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:39:55PM +0200, Eduard wrote: > bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:23:57PM +0200, Eduard wrote: > >> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in > >> another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home > >> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than > >> with Edgy)? > > > > It depends on used applcations. Some of them had config files / differents. Why do you want to use another usernames? > > > > If you really want to use another username, there will be no problem. > > > >> Thanks again in advance. > > > just to avoid problems, because at the moment i don't feel comfortable > trying to guess why is something going wrong. > So no problem for grubs also and any other thing, ok? Everything depends on the config. If you grub config will be ok - than it will be ok. -- http://glam.pl vintage ciuchy From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 3 14:37:39 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:37:39 -0300 Subject: removing packages and dependencies References: <2453683.IPoJ46N2gU@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: Scott wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2006 09:18 am, Christopher J. Bottaro > (cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu) spake thusly: > >> How to I remove package A and all the packages that package A depends >> on that aren't being used by other packages. >> >> This is different that "apt-get remove package_A" which removes >> package A and all packages that depend on package A. >> > The deborphan package can be helpful in this area. > > $ sudo apt-get install deborphan > $ man deborphan oops. My bad. It's been so long since I needed it. Careful though - deborphan usually finds a few packages that it thinks need to be removed that shouldn't be - so don't try running it as a cron job :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 3 14:45:47 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:45:47 -0300 Subject: K3b is toast right now. References: <200610012235.42948.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <200610020006.01770.aprestn5@telus.net> Message-ID: Alastair Preston wrote: > On Sunday 01 October 2006 23:35, Rob Blomquist wrote: >> Last time I used it, it worked great, but today, for some unknown reason >> it will not even load its GUI on my machine. >> >> I used to use the CL to figure out what was bugging a program that would >> not load. But since Ubuntu is configured to not allow that, I have no >> idea how to fix up k3b. >> > BTW, to get to a root console with Kubuntu, you can either create a root > password with "sudo passwd root" then use su as in other distros, or just > use "sudo su" k3b doesn't need to run as root, and _shouldn't_ be run as root (at times, with various kernels, it - or one of the helper programs - would even refuse to work if it was suid root). You should, however, be a member of the cdrom group. Second, Ubuntu is very definitely configured to give you a "CL". Just go to the K menu, System > Terminal Program (Konsole). -- derek From eduard.bonet at upf.edu Tue Oct 3 15:54:50 2006 From: eduard.bonet at upf.edu (Eduard) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:54:50 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <20061003144958.GA1572@jabberpl.org> References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> <20061003143150.GA32260@jabberpl.org><4522763B.6030307@upf.edu> <20061003144958.GA1572@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <452287CA.4080102@upf.edu> bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:39:55PM +0200, Eduard wrote: >> bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:23:57PM +0200, Eduard wrote: >>>> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in >>>> another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home >>>> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than >>>> with Edgy)? >>> It depends on used applcations. Some of them had config files / differents. Why do you want to use another usernames? >>> >>> If you really want to use another username, there will be no problem. >>> >>>> Thanks again in advance. >> just to avoid problems, because at the moment i don't feel comfortable >> trying to guess why is something going wrong. >> So no problem for grubs also and any other thing, ok? > > Everything depends on the config. If you grub config will be ok - than > it will be ok. > Can you please give me a url (or some key words) where i can find info about the grub config, as you say. From antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 15:56:37 2006 From: antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com (arcorreia) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:56:37 +0100 Subject: Adept headaches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610031656.38108.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Forget adept and get synaptic. I've been using it since Hoary and it's far better and more mature than adept. From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Tue Oct 3 17:01:14 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 13:01:14 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy amd64 bit (not for me) In-Reply-To: <3301771.UvVknmQSn7@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <200610030013.05262.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <3301771.UvVknmQSn7@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <200610031301.14819.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Well, allot. To sum it up... after using the livecd's of ubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu 64bit installing is okay ,its after I install, then reboot, THEN download the updates.. when things get out of wack. Dozen and Dozens of times, would not get the login screen. had to esc login as single users, and do ; Sudo aptitude update, and then sudo aptitude upgrade, to see if there was a fix. Then networking issues, with ubuntu (odd) -- None, support broadcom wireless card (built-in) as of yet. --------- Oh, Xubuntu cd-burner ( forget that) did not work, had to wipe re-install kubuntu desktop ( did not update) and burn Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy daily 10.02.2006 release 32 bit. Now this is working, and have done a few updates already including a kernel upgrade.... Again. There something still not quite right. with the 64bit distro. Running AMD Mobile Athlon 4000+ with 1 GB RAM and ATI X600 Mobile Radeion Card. ( this is suppose to be a very very fast system ) However, I notice as now, the 32 bit version of Kubuntu runs faster.. (ODD) -- Cheers' Rich On Tuesday 03 October 2006 01:10, Scott wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2006 09:13 pm, Richard (cms01 at tampabay.rr.com) > > spake thusly: > > Well, it was a fun weekend, after 32 hours, of loading & unloading > > ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu 64bit Distro, on a Gateway AMD64 4000+ laptop > > with broadcom wireless... I had to dump the 64 bit Distro all togther, > > and go with the 32bit kubuntu. > > What exactly happened? > > -- > Scott > http://angrykeyboarder.com > © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From T.Six at gmx.de Tue Oct 3 16:52:58 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:52:58 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> Message-ID: Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 16:23: > I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in > another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home > directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than > with Edgy)? > > Thanks again in advance. IMHO it is not a good idea to share the home between them, because there a new program versions in edgy which will change most proabaly the files at first start. If you use then the dapper version again ... well this will lead surely to problems. Instead of sharing i would just plain copy the files over to the edgy home. An other advantage you still have your dapper-profile in place, like a backup. If something went wrong you can use it again, just copy it over again. bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: Ox4A411E09 From T.Six at gmx.de Tue Oct 3 16:44:40 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:44:40 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <452287CA.4080102@upf.edu> References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> <20061003143150.GA32260@jabberpl.org><4522763B.6030307@upf.edu> <20061003144958.GA1572@jabberpl.org> <452287CA.4080102@upf.edu> Message-ID: Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 17:54: > Can you please give me a url (or some key words) where i can find info > about the grub config, as you say. > Taken from /boot/grub/menu.lst: <--------------------------------------------------- # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8) # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8), # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/. ---------------------------------------------------> HTH Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: Ox4A411E09 From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 18:23:18 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:23:18 +0200 Subject: How to run two users in two terminals Message-ID: <880dece00610031123q5b60a43pd69262f744cee72@mail.gmail.com> I'm testing some apps, and not using my regular user account for this. So I'd like a quick way to switch between both users by having two users on two consoles. I'd seen a Fedora machine where CTRL-ALT-F7 was one graphical terminal, and CTRL-ALT-F8 was another. Can I do that on Kubuntu? How? Thanks in advance. Dotan http://what-is-what.com 65 From eduard.bonet at upf.edu Tue Oct 3 18:44:57 2006 From: eduard.bonet at upf.edu (Eduard) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:44:57 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu><20061003143150.GA32260@jabberpl.org>< 4522763B.6030307@upf.edu><20061003144958.GA1572@jabberpl.org> <452287CA.4080102@upf.edu> Message-ID: <4522AFA9.9000005@upf.edu> Thilo Six wrote: > Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 17:54: > > > >> Can you please give me a url (or some key words) where i can find info >> about the grub config, as you say. >> > > Taken from /boot/grub/menu.lst: > <--------------------------------------------------- > # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8) > # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8), > # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub > # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/. > ---------------------------------------------------> > > HTH Thilo Ok, thanks, but in my ignorance i am wondering whether i will have problems when upgrading the kernel of my second ubuntu install (dapper in my case). I imagine i will have two menu.lst files, the current one for edgy and the new one for dapper, isn't it? Will entail this any problem once i update my dapper kernel? From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 19:00:25 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:00:25 +0200 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered Message-ID: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> Please excuse the newbie-question, but I'd like to know why certain apps are "gnome apps" and others are "KDE apps". If I understand correctly, programs are written in languages (C, perl, mono), using toolkits (QT, GTK), for certain operating systems (Linux, Windows). Now, as I understand it, programs written with the QT toolkit are KDE apps, and those written with the GTK toolkit are Gnome apps. Is this correct? Now, I understand that changing a program from C to mono is impossible without rewritting the whole program from scratch. But can a program be switched from GTK to QT or vice-versa? How involved is that? Can there be a QT version and a GTK version of the same app? Also, I understand that programs written in C can work on either linux or windows, but those written in Java can run on both, because the Java runtime environment is specific to the OS. How does the toolkit affect this- are they written in only QT || only GTK || neither? Thanks for the info. Nothing I've been able to google has explained this very well, for non-developers like myself. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From nixternal at ubuntu.com Tue Oct 3 19:04:58 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:04:58 -0500 Subject: How to run two users in two terminals In-Reply-To: <880dece00610031123q5b60a43pd69262f744cee72@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610031123q5b60a43pd69262f744cee72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610031405.03797.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 13:23, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I'm testing some apps, and not using my regular user account for this. > So I'd like a quick way to switch between both users by having two > users on two consoles. I'd seen a Fedora machine where CTRL-ALT-F7 was > one graphical terminal, and CTRL-ALT-F8 was another. Can I do that on > Kubuntu? How? Thanks in advance. > > Dotan > http://what-is-what.com > 65 If you have created the other user, then you can switch users by "KMenu -> Switch User -> Lock Current & Start New Session" Then, you can look at the vt# assigned in that same location under KMenu and that will give you the Function Key number to press with the CTRL+ALT keycombo. -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From marktaff at comcast.net Tue Oct 3 19:48:53 2006 From: marktaff at comcast.net (Mark A. Taff) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:48:53 -0700 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered In-Reply-To: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610031248.53506.marktaff@comcast.net> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 12:00, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Now, as I understand it, programs written with the QT toolkit are KDE > apps, and those written with the GTK toolkit are Gnome apps. Is this > correct? No. A KDE program is a program that uses the kde base libraries, many of which are based on QT libraries. A QT program doesn't use kde base libraries. KDE has bindings so that KDE programs can be written in many languages, though most are writtemn in C++. A QT program will run without the KDE base libraries, while a KDE app won't. HTH, Mark From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 3 20:02:17 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:02:17 +0100 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered In-Reply-To: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4522C1C9.1040108@yahoo.co.uk> On 10/03/2006 08:00 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Please excuse the newbie-question, but I'd like to know why certain > apps are "gnome apps" and others are "KDE apps". Dotan, These are excellent questions. So good that I will try and answer them :-) > If I understand > correctly, programs are written in languages (C, perl, mono), using > toolkits (QT, GTK), for certain operating systems (Linux, Windows). > Now, as I understand it, programs written with the QT toolkit are KDE > apps, and those written with the GTK toolkit are Gnome apps. Is this > correct? Toolkits (GTK/Qt) provide (for the sake of simplicity of my answer, I'm sure others may elaborate more ;-) - widgets like buttons, labels, edit fields, etc. and even file selectors - methods for handling user interaction (e.g. event loop or callbacks) - some other things depending on toolkit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gui_toolkit Now desktops, like Gnome and KDE, build on top of a toolkit and operating system providing things like menu, desktop with icons, basic applications (e.g. text editor, clock), windows (window manager), file manager, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment > Now, I understand that changing a program from C to mono is impossible > without rewritting the whole program from scratch. It's not necessarily as "black&white". But this is long discussion and depends on many factors... > But can a program > be switched from GTK to QT or vice-versa? How involved is that? Can > there be a QT version and a GTK version of the same app? If your application core is nicely separated from frontend (GUI) it's possible to do so. In fact it's very common in Unix/Linux world -- quite a few apps are written as command line utilities and there are different frontends for them. Example: K3b is a frontend for bunch of CD/DVD mastering and recording tools. This by no means is the only way. You can for example write a library that is used by the different frontends. See how xine engine is used by Amarok and other applications. There are other possibilties too... > Also, I understand that programs written in C can work on either linux > or windows, but those written in Java can run on both, because the > Java runtime environment is specific to the OS. How does the toolkit > affect this- are they written in only QT || only GTK || neither? Java is yet another "animal". Java Runtime Environment (JRE) provides two GUI toolkits: - AWT, which is simpler and uses native OS widgets, thus looking and behaving slightly differently on different OSes - Swing, which is more advanced and OS indepentent (yet, it can integrate with underlying OS, e.g. look more Windows-like on Windows, or GTK-like on Linux); it draws its own widgets without using native toolkits There's another native toolkit, SWT/JFace, used by Eclipse platform and application built on top of Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/swt). This one is not part of JRE. It uses native toolkits for widget rendering and so integrates better with underlying OS (e.g. on Linux it uses GTK). There is an effort to write Swing implementation of SWT allowing for SWT to be OS-independent. Currently application developers need to include different native part of SWT for different OSes, which somewhat defies Java's "write once, run anywhere" motto. > Thanks for the info. Nothing I've been able to google has explained > this very well, for non-developers like myself. Hope this helps :-) Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From bill at ocons.com Tue Oct 3 20:18:58 2006 From: bill at ocons.com (Maurice O'Connor) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:18:58 -0400 Subject: Boot loader Message-ID: <1159906738.23567.18.camel@ocon1.localdomain> Kubuntu has the very nice feature of looking for other OS and including them in the boot menu. However if I install another OS and don't install it's boot loader, the new OS won't show in the menu. Is there a way to run the boot loader without re-installing kubuntu? -- Cheers Bill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From kubuntu at mekanix.dk Tue Oct 3 20:25:33 2006 From: kubuntu at mekanix.dk (Bjarne Wichmann Petersen) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 22:25:33 +0200 Subject: DigiKam and ACL In-Reply-To: References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200610020929.45056.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: <200610032225.33543.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> On Monday 02 October 2006 23:37, Toby Dickenson wrote: > I recommend adding "session optional pam_umask.so umask=002" > to /etc/pam.d/common-session. This sets the umask to 002 for all logins. Am I correct in understanding that I need to install libpam_umask for this to work? > I hope this helps, Well, sort of. For any KDE-apps but DigiKam. Actually, I've only tested it with DigiKam and Kate. With Kate I created a testfiled saved it in the shared folder. The file have the right permission (rw for group). DigiKam *insists* on not allowing anyone but the owner write-access for any files it creates. You must have done something else to make DigiKam behave. ;-) This bug seems to imply that this is a know issue, which the developer wont fix. Bjarne From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Tue Oct 3 20:30:36 2006 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:30:36 +0100 Subject: Boot loader In-Reply-To: <1159906738.23567.18.camel@ocon1.localdomain> References: <1159906738.23567.18.camel@ocon1.localdomain> Message-ID: <4522C86C.8070307@googlemail.com> Maurice O'Connor wrote: > Kubuntu has the very nice feature of looking for other OS and including > them in the boot menu. However if I install another OS and don't > install it's boot loader, the new OS won't show in the menu. Is there a > way to run the boot loader without re-installing kubuntu? > Yes, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub SteVe From toby at tarind.com Tue Oct 3 21:06:55 2006 From: toby at tarind.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 22:06:55 +0100 Subject: DigiKam and ACL References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200610020929.45056.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200610032225.33543.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > On Monday 02 October 2006 23:37, Toby Dickenson wrote: > >> I recommend adding "session optional pam_umask.so umask=002" >> to /etc/pam.d/common-session. This sets the umask to 002 for all logins. > > Am I correct in understanding that I need to install libpam_umask for this > to work? Correct. > DigiKam *insists* on not allowing anyone but the owner write-access for > any files it creates. Which files in particular? > You must have done something else to make DigiKam behave. ;-) Interesting. Ive just checked the behaviour of digikam 0.8.2~rc1-0ubuntu3 using strace. Downloaded photos are definitely being created with a mode 0666 (so permissions get set entirely by umask). This is with a USB mass storage camera; I guess other camera types _might_ be different. It looks like the digikam3.db database would be created with 0644 permissions. So yes, I must have changed this manually at some point. It currently has 0664, and I am **sure** I havent changed those permissions recently. Interestingly, while modifying the database sqlite does create its journal file (digikam3.db-journal) with permissions 0644. This would not be writable by other users in the group. This file is used for recovery if digikam crashes in the middle of an update. I wonder what would happen if that recovery needed to be performed by different user to the one who had the crash? From jeff_yowell at cox.net Tue Oct 3 21:33:04 2006 From: jeff_yowell at cox.net (Jeff Yowell) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:33:04 -0500 Subject: Boot loader In-Reply-To: <4522C86C.8070307@googlemail.com> References: <1159906738.23567.18.camel@ocon1.localdomain> <4522C86C.8070307@googlemail.com> Message-ID: None of the instructions within that document correspond to anything resembling an Ubuntu disk formatting screen. I too am looking for instructions on how to fix the MBR. Does anyone know where I can find any? On Oct 3, 2006, at 3:30 PM, SteVe Cook wrote: > Maurice O'Connor wrote: >> Kubuntu has the very nice feature of looking for other OS and >> including >> them in the boot menu. However if I install another OS and don't >> install it's boot loader, the new OS won't show in the menu. Is >> there a >> way to run the boot loader without re-installing kubuntu? >> > Yes, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub > > SteVe > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 21:53:46 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 23:53:46 +0200 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered In-Reply-To: <200610031248.53506.marktaff@comcast.net> References: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> <200610031248.53506.marktaff@comcast.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610031453j57ab3e20w6676a580ef0e263f@mail.gmail.com> On 03/10/06, Mark A. Taff wrote: > On Tuesday 03 October 2006 12:00, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Now, as I understand it, programs written with the QT toolkit are KDE > > apps, and those written with the GTK toolkit are Gnome apps. Is this > > correct? > > No. A KDE program is a program that uses the kde base libraries, many of which > are based on QT libraries. A QT program doesn't use kde base libraries. KDE > has bindings so that KDE programs can be written in many languages, though > most are writtemn in C++. > > A QT program will run without the KDE base libraries, while a KDE app won't. > > HTH, > > Mark > Ah, that clears up some things. Thanks. Dotan From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 22:01:02 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 00:01:02 +0200 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered In-Reply-To: <4522C1C9.1040108@yahoo.co.uk> References: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> <4522C1C9.1040108@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610031501l6e464a47n4456eff6ffc73383@mail.gmail.com> On 03/10/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 10/03/2006 08:00 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Please excuse the newbie-question, but I'd like to know why certain > > apps are "gnome apps" and others are "KDE apps". > > Dotan, > > These are excellent questions. So good that I will try and answer them :-) > > > If I understand > > correctly, programs are written in languages (C, perl, mono), using > > toolkits (QT, GTK), for certain operating systems (Linux, Windows). > > Now, as I understand it, programs written with the QT toolkit are KDE > > apps, and those written with the GTK toolkit are Gnome apps. Is this > > correct? > > Toolkits (GTK/Qt) provide (for the sake of simplicity of my answer, I'm > sure others may elaborate more ;-) > > - widgets like buttons, labels, edit fields, etc. and even file selectors > - methods for handling user interaction (e.g. event loop or callbacks) > - some other things depending on toolkit > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gui_toolkit > > > Now desktops, like Gnome and KDE, build on top of a toolkit and > operating system providing things like menu, desktop with icons, basic > applications (e.g. text editor, clock), windows (window manager), file > manager, etc. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment > > > > Now, I understand that changing a program from C to mono is impossible > > without rewritting the whole program from scratch. > > It's not necessarily as "black&white". But this is long discussion and > depends on many factors... > > > But can a program > > be switched from GTK to QT or vice-versa? How involved is that? Can > > there be a QT version and a GTK version of the same app? > > If your application core is nicely separated from frontend (GUI) it's > possible to do so. In fact it's very common in Unix/Linux world -- quite > a few apps are written as command line utilities and there are different > frontends for them. Example: K3b is a frontend for bunch of CD/DVD > mastering and recording tools. > > This by no means is the only way. You can for example write a library > that is used by the different frontends. See how xine engine is used by > Amarok and other applications. > > There are other possibilties too... > > > > Also, I understand that programs written in C can work on either linux > > or windows, but those written in Java can run on both, because the > > Java runtime environment is specific to the OS. How does the toolkit > > affect this- are they written in only QT || only GTK || neither? > > Java is yet another "animal". Java Runtime Environment (JRE) provides > two GUI toolkits: > > - AWT, which is simpler and uses native OS widgets, thus looking and > behaving slightly differently on different OSes > - Swing, which is more advanced and OS indepentent (yet, it can > integrate with underlying OS, e.g. look more Windows-like on Windows, or > GTK-like on Linux); it draws its own widgets without using native toolkits > > There's another native toolkit, SWT/JFace, used by Eclipse platform and > application built on top of Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/swt). This > one is not part of JRE. It uses native toolkits for widget rendering and > so integrates better with underlying OS (e.g. on Linux it uses GTK). > There is an effort to write Swing implementation of SWT allowing for SWT > to be OS-independent. Currently application developers need to include > different native part of SWT for different OSes, which somewhat defies > Java's "write once, run anywhere" motto. > > > > Thanks for the info. Nothing I've been able to google has explained > > this very well, for non-developers like myself. > > Hope this helps :-) > That does help, thanks. I now understand that a program like F-Spot, which is a "gnome app" must have gnome installed and will not run on a KDE-only system. So, if I want to lean out my system, I must find a KDE replacement for F-Spot. Tell me, does having Gnome stuff running in the background slow down KDE? For instance, if I fire up F-Spot, will it use considerably most system resources than, say, DigiKam, because it must load the gnome libraries? Am I essentially, then, running two desktops at once and therefore killing the computer? I'm on a 1.2 gHz Duron processor with 512MB ram, and I feel that the system is extremly slow. Would I be best off eliminating the Gnome apps? How can I know, before starting a program, what libraries it will load, and therefore how much resouces it will take? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com 658 From lists at wordit.com Tue Oct 3 22:22:15 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 00:22:15 +0200 Subject: Simple network: desktop, laptop, wifi DSL router Message-ID: <200610040022.15925.lists@wordit.com> Are there any how-tos on creating a very simple network for 2 machines? Google hasn't helped sofar. I have a desktop, a laptop, and wifi DSL router/AP. The router has a LAN plug for the desktop. Can I use the wired port for the desktop, and wifi for the laptop? It should work, but I'm not sure how to set it up. Like this: - desktop wired to LAN port of router - laptop connects to LAN and DSL with wifi (DSL connection already works with Knetworkmanager) - both machines can share files on LAN It should only require a few entries in /etc/network/interfaces , shouldn't it? Thanks, Marcus From thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 3 22:44:36 2006 From: thuforuk at yahoo.co.uk (Dariusz J. Garbowski) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:44:36 +0100 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered In-Reply-To: <880dece00610031501l6e464a47n4456eff6ffc73383@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> <4522C1C9.1040108@yahoo.co.uk> <880dece00610031501l6e464a47n4456eff6ffc73383@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4522E7D4.8060606@yahoo.co.uk> On 10/03/2006 11:01 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 03/10/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: >> On 10/03/2006 08:00 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the info. Nothing I've been able to google has explained >>> this very well, for non-developers like myself. >> Hope this helps :-) >> > > That does help, thanks. I now understand that a program like F-Spot, > which is a "gnome app" must have gnome installed and will not run on a > KDE-only system. So, if I want to lean out my system, I must find a > KDE replacement for F-Spot. > > Tell me, does having Gnome stuff running in the background slow down > KDE? Yes and no. Not by itself, but yes by resource consumption, e.g. memory (like you mention below). > For instance, if I fire up F-Spot, will it use considerably most > system resources than, say, DigiKam, because it must load the gnome > libraries? Am I essentially, then, running two desktops at once and > therefore killing the computer? Not exactly two desktops, e.g you will run only one window manager, panel(s) from one desktop only, etc. But Gnome application running in KDE will load a bunch of Gnome libs (and vice versa). > I'm on a 1.2 gHz Duron processor with > 512MB ram, and I feel that the system is extremly slow. Would I be > best off eliminating the Gnome apps? That would help, especially due to memory limit. > How can I know, before starting a > program, what libraries it will load, and therefore how much resouces > it will take? You can get some indication of that using ldd command, for example try: $ ldd /usr/bin/top ... $ ldd /usr/bin/k3b ... This works for dynamically linked applications (which are usually in majority on Linux systems) by printing shared library dependencies. You can also use command line "top" or KDE's KSysGuard to monitor how much memory an application uses. There is however important thing to remember -- dynamically linked executables share libraries, i.e. if you run 5 Gnome apps they will definitely share Gnome libraries rather than each of the apps loading libs separately. There's also more advanced "strace"... Regards, Dariusz ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of Vi at gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html From nixternal at ubuntu.com Tue Oct 3 23:25:26 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 18:25:26 -0500 Subject: Simple network: desktop, laptop, wifi DSL router In-Reply-To: <200610040022.15925.lists@wordit.com> References: <200610040022.15925.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <200610031825.26918.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 17:22, marcus wrote: [snip] > I have a desktop, a laptop, and wifi DSL router/AP. The router has a LAN > plug for the desktop. Can I use the wired port for the desktop, and > wifi for the laptop? It should work, but I'm not sure how to set it up. Can you provide a Make & Model for this DSL router? > Like this: > > - desktop wired to LAN port of router Sound fine. > - laptop connects to LAN and DSL with wifi (DSL connection already works > with Knetworkmanager) That should work. > - both machines can share files on LAN sudo apt-get install samba Then setup /etc/samba/smb.conf to display Network = NetworkName sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart Right click and the folder and share usually. > It should only require a few entries in /etc/network/interfaces , > shouldn't it? If you set your /etc/network/interfaces to look like auto eth0 iface eth0 inet auto accordingly, you shouldn't have to worry. > Thanks, > > Marcus Any extra information you can provide would be great. But so far I would say you are on the right track and heading in the right direction. -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone know where I can > find any? > > > On Oct 3, 2006, at 3:30 PM, SteVe Cook wrote: > >> Maurice O'Connor wrote: >>> Kubuntu has the very nice feature of looking for other OS and >>> including >>> them in the boot menu. However if I install another OS and don't >>> install it's boot loader, the new OS won't show in the menu. Is >>> there a >>> way to run the boot loader without re-installing kubuntu? >>> >> Yes, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub >> >> SteVe >> try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows kk -- Karl Goetz The buck stops there -> $ Australian Ubuntu users team - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Oct 4 01:17:07 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:17:07 -0500 Subject: Archive in Thunderbird In-Reply-To: References: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> <45220828.2050503@cresbank.com> Message-ID: <200610032017.07509.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 1:56 am, Gunner wrote: > I use backupmanager for that. it's easy to set up, supports ssh, ftp, rsync > and > has a sceduler for setting up when to do what. > Not specific for tunderbird, though... > /gunner > > > > how can i archive in thunderbird any one can help me??? What you want to do is take old email and save it offline for retrieval in the future if you want to. I'm not sure why Archiving email was not understood but that's a technical description. I would like to know a fast way to do that with Kmail as well. Every email package ought to have a way to save off old email, say anything older than 90 days, to an "Archive" package or whatever, so that can be burned to CD or just left on the drive. However, once archived it would not be in the live email directories or Databases. If you have ever used GroupWise its called an "Archive" because it essentially is the same directory and db structure as the live system. I believe Outlook uses a ".pst" file, and Lotus Notes uses a "local" database. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Oct 4 01:20:35 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:20:35 -0500 Subject: Encoding DVD for use on PDA In-Reply-To: <880dece00610030549w5004bb49u6420715af2bae407@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610030549w5004bb49u6420715af2bae407@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610032020.35872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 7:49 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > What programs can one use to encode a DVD so that I can watch it on my > Dell Axim? I see many such programs for Windows, but none advertise > that they work on Linux. > > Note: I'm not trying to steal a movie. I have a few DVD's and I'd like > to make use of my new GB SD card. Thanks. What I'd like to know is how did you get your Dell Axiom to sync with Linux? I have an HP IPAQ, (which I hope isn't spying on me), 4150 I believe, and I would love to be able to sync the calendar, notes, etc. to my Linux machine. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 4 01:55:53 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 03:55:53 +0200 Subject: Encoding DVD for use on PDA In-Reply-To: <200610032020.35872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <880dece00610030549w5004bb49u6420715af2bae407@mail.gmail.com> <200610032020.35872.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610031855n3da61c55i2c83d96b97cdf3b5@mail.gmail.com> On 04/10/06, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Tuesday 03 October 2006 7:49 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > What programs can one use to encode a DVD so that I can watch it on my > > Dell Axim? I see many such programs for Windows, but none advertise > > that they work on Linux. > > > > Note: I'm not trying to steal a movie. I have a few DVD's and I'd like > > to make use of my new GB SD card. Thanks. > > What I'd like to know is how did you get your Dell Axiom to sync with Linux? > I have an HP IPAQ, (which I hope isn't spying on me), 4150 I believe, and I > would love to be able to sync the calendar, notes, etc. to my Linux machine. > I personally haven't done that, but this site might help you: http://www.synce.org It's down right now, but they have great step by step instructions for syncing WM2003 machines with Evolution and Kontact. I personally run Windows XP Home in VMWare and backup to Outlook. It's the only thing I use the virtual machine for. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 4 01:58:07 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 03:58:07 +0200 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered In-Reply-To: <4522E7D4.8060606@yahoo.co.uk> References: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> <4522C1C9.1040108@yahoo.co.uk> <880dece00610031501l6e464a47n4456eff6ffc73383@mail.gmail.com> <4522E7D4.8060606@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610031858t4d087b50w5894cfbc1d7d066c@mail.gmail.com> On 04/10/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 10/03/2006 11:01 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 03/10/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > >> On 10/03/2006 08:00 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks for the info. Nothing I've been able to google has explained > >>> this very well, for non-developers like myself. > >> Hope this helps :-) > >> > > > > That does help, thanks. I now understand that a program like F-Spot, > > which is a "gnome app" must have gnome installed and will not run on a > > KDE-only system. So, if I want to lean out my system, I must find a > > KDE replacement for F-Spot. > > > > Tell me, does having Gnome stuff running in the background slow down > > KDE? > > Yes and no. Not by itself, but yes by resource consumption, e.g. memory > (like you mention below). > > > > For instance, if I fire up F-Spot, will it use considerably most > > system resources than, say, DigiKam, because it must load the gnome > > libraries? Am I essentially, then, running two desktops at once and > > therefore killing the computer? > > Not exactly two desktops, e.g you will run only one window manager, > panel(s) from one desktop only, etc. But Gnome application running in > KDE will load a bunch of Gnome libs (and vice versa). > > > > I'm on a 1.2 gHz Duron processor with > > 512MB ram, and I feel that the system is extremly slow. Would I be > > best off eliminating the Gnome apps? > > That would help, especially due to memory limit. > > > > How can I know, before starting a > > program, what libraries it will load, and therefore how much resouces > > it will take? > > You can get some indication of that using ldd command, for example try: > > $ ldd /usr/bin/top > ... > $ ldd /usr/bin/k3b > ... > > This works for dynamically linked applications (which are usually in > majority on Linux systems) by printing shared library dependencies. > > You can also use command line "top" or KDE's KSysGuard to monitor how > much memory an application uses. There is however important thing to > remember -- dynamically linked executables share libraries, i.e. if you > run 5 Gnome apps they will definitely share Gnome libraries rather than > each of the apps loading libs separately. > > There's also more advanced "strace"... > > Regards, > Dariusz > Thanks. I'd like to see how much of a performance hit F-Spot makes, rather than Digikam. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com From nixternal at ubuntu.com Wed Oct 4 01:58:12 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:58:12 -0500 Subject: KDE Sources.list ? In-Reply-To: <200610032058.02072.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610032058.02072.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610032058.12621.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 19:58, Richard wrote: > Are there any good KDE sources.list that I could Add to my sources.list > file. running edgy > > Thanks - > Rich The current /etc/apt/sources.list has the entire KDE package for Ubuntu already there. What exactly are you looking for? The following is my Edgy sources.list and there isn't anything KDE that I don't have. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages) deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates (MOTU) deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe multiverse ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages) # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe multiverse deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe multiverse ## koffice deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-16beta1 edgy main -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This I don't understand because the desktop has a direct wired connection to the router. > sudo apt-get install samba What about NFS? What are the pros and cons. > If you set your /etc/network/interfaces to look like > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet auto Say, what about the desktop's IP ? Will DHCP provide that automatically? (not sure DHCP is running). I remember managing this one with a single cable between a desktop and laptop. I had to provide some IP and subnet info etc. On the latop side Knetworkmanager handles IPs via DHCP, so you have to comment out all info except "lo" in /etc/network/interfaces. I only need the laptop to see the desktop, that way I can access the various disks and also do backups. Thanks, Marcus From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Wed Oct 4 04:20:08 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:20:08 -0700 Subject: More on K3b not loading Message-ID: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> My .xsession-errors file (17Mb!!) contains these lines: kio (KLauncher): KLauncher: Got start_service_by_desktop_path('/usr/share/applications/kde/k3b.desktop', ...) kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'k3b' from launcher. kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::writeConfig() Could not load library! Trying exec.... kdecore (KConfigSkeleton): KConfigSkeleton::readConfig() kio (KLauncher): k3b (pid 27640) up and running. DCOP: register 'k3b' -> number of clients is now 19 DCOP: unregister 'k3b-2' I am thinking this is the total report for the aborted launch of k3b. I find it amusing that there is a complaint "Could not load library! Trying exec...." I wonder what library it is refering to. All k3b dependancies, recommendations and suggestions are installed. I also am having a problem with k3bsetup, this line keeps occuring, when it crashes without loading: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 144 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 144 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device This feels like a pretty deep hole I am in. Apparently I left Backports open on my sources list, and I was getting all the updates from backports when they were the newest. Is there a way I could back my whole system back to whats on the main Ubuntu sites, and get rid of my backports installs once and for all? Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Oct 4 04:33:02 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:33:02 +0200 Subject: Archive in Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <200610032017.07509.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> <45220828.2050503@cresbank.com> <200610032017.07509.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4523397E.5040705@gmail.com> Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Tuesday 03 October 2006 1:56 am, Gunner wrote: > >> I use backupmanager for that. it's easy to set up, supports ssh, ftp, rsync >> and >> has a sceduler for setting up when to do what. >> Not specific for tunderbird, though... >> /gunner >> >> > > >>>> how can i archive in thunderbird any one can help me??? >>>> > > What you want to do is take old email and save it offline for retrieval in the > future if you want to. I'm not sure why Archiving email was not understood > but that's a technical description. > > I would like to know a fast way to do that with Kmail as well. > > Every email package ought to have a way to save off old email, say anything > older than 90 days, to an "Archive" package or whatever, so that can be > burned to CD or just left on the drive. However, once archived it would not > be in the live email directories or Databases. If you have ever used > GroupWise its called an "Archive" because it essentially is the same > directory and db structure as the live system. I believe Outlook uses > a ".pst" file, and Lotus Notes uses a "local" database. > > I just basically want to second the above. Archiving to me in this case means removing from active use email that are older than a specified age and storing it separately somewhere. I would love to see that in Kmail. Did anyone say "plugins"? What happened to plugin writing? Sinclair From kubuntu at mekanix.dk Wed Oct 4 06:52:05 2006 From: kubuntu at mekanix.dk (Bjarne Wichmann Petersen) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:52:05 +0200 Subject: DigiKam and ACL In-Reply-To: References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200610032225.33543.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: <200610040852.05690.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 23:06, Toby Dickenson wrote: > Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > > DigiKam *insists* on not allowing anyone but the owner write-access for > > any files it creates. > Which files in particular? > > You must have done something else to make DigiKam behave. ;-) > Interesting. I got a step further. DigiKam *doesn't* remove permission-bit. It just keeps the bits from the original. So if a files "test.jpg" have the following permission: test.jpg -rwxr-xr-x When I import this file into DigiKam, the permission-bits are the same (though the group have changed). So when the original has "-rwxrw-r-x" the imported pictures will have this as well. This is how it's done i konqueror and with cp as well, so I guess that is how it's supposed to be with linux. My camera gets mounted as a USB mass-storage device, with the default-permission: "-rwx-r-x-r-x". So to me it looks like I have no choice but changing the permissions manually each time I import new pictures into DigiKam. So again, how do you do it? Do you have any scripts running to automagically change permission, or when you import your pictures from your camera, are they already with the umask=664? Bjarne From billy at silverbaseball.com Wed Oct 4 06:50:21 2006 From: billy at silverbaseball.com (Billy Pollifrone) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:50:21 -0400 Subject: Please help me understand how programs are layered In-Reply-To: <4522C1C9.1040108@yahoo.co.uk> References: <880dece00610031200o70c17741q4cf83d87f481f012@mail.gmail.com> <4522C1C9.1040108@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <6c889d120610032350r53cc76b2we35e71bfbc598000@mail.gmail.com> On 10/3/06, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: > On 10/03/2006 08:00 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > Now, I understand that changing a program from C to mono is impossible > > without rewritting the whole program from scratch. > > It's not necessarily as "black&white". But this is long discussion and > depends on many factors... To move from one language to another (Pacal -> C for instance) isn't necessarily a rewrite as you are simply duplicating the functionality as opposed to making new. This is known as porting to another language. You also can port from one compiler to another or one toolkit to another. As you get more advanced, such as the toolkit level, you start getting into rewriting since the API's become wildly different. - Billy From billy at silverbaseball.com Wed Oct 4 06:54:10 2006 From: billy at silverbaseball.com (Billy Pollifrone) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:54:10 -0400 Subject: removing packages and dependencies In-Reply-To: References: <2453683.IPoJ46N2gU@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <6c889d120610032354o3ccd97a0r2f26d0c2d2bb37ae@mail.gmail.com> On 10/3/06, Derek Broughton wrote: > Scott wrote: > >> > > The deborphan package can be helpful in this area. > > > > $ sudo apt-get install deborphan > > $ man deborphan > > oops. My bad. It's been so long since I needed it. Careful though - > deborphan usually finds a few packages that it thinks need to be removed > that shouldn't be - so don't try running it as a cron job :-) > -- I use aptitude for my package management. It takes out dependencies as needed when removing a package. Deborphan works well, but remember that running it may create new orphans, so you'll want to run it a few times. From toby at tarind.com Wed Oct 4 07:14:10 2006 From: toby at tarind.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:14:10 +0100 Subject: DigiKam and ACL References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200610032225.33543.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200610040852.05690.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > On Tuesday 03 October 2006 23:06, Toby Dickenson wrote: >> Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: >> > DigiKam *insists* on not allowing anyone but the owner write-access for >> > any files it creates. >> Which files in particular? >> > You must have done something else to make DigiKam behave. ;-) >> Interesting. > > I got a step further. DigiKam *doesn't* remove permission-bit. It just > keeps the bits from the original. So if a files "test.jpg" have the > following permission: > > test.jpg -rwxr-xr-x > > When I import this file into DigiKam, the permission-bits are the same > (though the group have changed). > > So when the original has "-rwxrw-r-x" the imported pictures will have this > as well. > > This is how it's done i konqueror and with cp as well, so I guess that is > how it's supposed to be with linux. Are you using the menu Album/Import/Images? It looks like this is using the same 'file copy' library as Konqueror, which does use the traditional unix behaviour of retaining permissions. In digikam I am using the 'Camera' menu. You have to tell digikam about your camera type; Camera/Add Camera, press the "Add" button to show a very confusing dialog box, then pick "Mounted Camera" off the list of camera types. The 'Camera' menu then has a new entry for accessing this camera when mounted. It has a nice gui for previewing photos, selectively downloading them into a new album, and deleting them from the camera. It also uses umask to set permissions on the downloaded file. > My camera gets mounted as a USB mass-storage device, with the > default-permission: "-rwx-r-x-r-x". Thats also interesting. I am seeing files in mounted media using 0700 permissions (-rwx------). I wonder where that difference comes from. From gabpaul at melbpc.org.au Wed Oct 4 07:17:16 2006 From: gabpaul at melbpc.org.au (gabrielle harrison and Paul van den Bergen) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 17:17:16 +1000 Subject: Xubuntu install - slightly off topic... Message-ID: Hi All, I'm attempting to install Xubuntu on a PII-233. the problem seems to be the mouse. it's an old machine and has no PS2 connector so I am connecting the SP2 mouse vai the serial port (com1 or 2) with an adaptor. the mouse is not recognised in teh standarf=d boot from the cd - no mouse, no GHUI navigation... therfor no install. if I shell out to a command line (alt shift f1 etc.) I can run mdetect and get $ sudo mdetect /dev/psaux intellimouse so the mouse exists and I've used it on a BSD system recently. firtly how do I stop the X-windows session from the CD or install from the CD witout booting into X or configure the mouse correctly? (presumably I can install onto the HDD on another machine, then setup the mouse later - but what a drag!) -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Chance favours the prepared mind From kubuntu at kitterman.com Wed Oct 4 11:36:13 2006 From: kubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 07:36:13 -0400 Subject: Archive in Kmail was Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <4523397E.5040705@gmail.com> References: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> <200610032017.07509.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <4523397E.5040705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610040736.14027.kubuntu@kitterman.com> On Wednesday 04 October 2006 00:33, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > I just basically want to second the above. Archiving to me in this case > means removing from active use email that are older than a specified age > and storing it separately somewhere. I would love to see that in Kmail. > Did anyone say "plugins"? What happened to plugin writing? > One of the things I really appreciate about Kmail is the ability to store my mail in the maildir format. As it relates to this question, since each message is in an individual file, you can use the standard Kubuntu file management tools to copy off older messages and archive them. I believe that you also have to get rid of the index files for the folders so Kmail can regenerate them. This should be easy enough to script. For Kubuntu (distributions vary in this regard), Kmail stores mail at: /home/[user name]/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/ Scott K From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Wed Oct 4 12:01:04 2006 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:01:04 +0200 Subject: Archive in Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <4523397E.5040705@gmail.com> References: <4521E3B9.8030507@cresbank.com> <45220828.2050503@cresbank.com> <200610032017.07509.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <4523397E.5040705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4523A280.9010703@yahoo.it> Orjan Sinclair wrote: > Howard Coles Jr. wrote: >> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 1:56 am, Gunner wrote: >> >>> I use backupmanager for that. it's easy to set up, supports ssh, ftp, rsync >>> and >>> has a sceduler for setting up when to do what. >>> Not specific for tunderbird, though... >>> /gunner >>> >>> >> >>>>> how can i archive in thunderbird any one can help me??? >>>>> >> What you want to do is take old email and save it offline for retrieval in the >> future if you want to. I'm not sure why Archiving email was not understood >> but that's a technical description. >> >> I would like to know a fast way to do that with Kmail as well. >> >> Every email package ought to have a way to save off old email, say anything >> older than 90 days, to an "Archive" package or whatever, so that can be >> burned to CD or just left on the drive. However, once archived it would not >> be in the live email directories or Databases. If you have ever used >> GroupWise its called an "Archive" because it essentially is the same >> directory and db structure as the live system. I believe Outlook uses >> a ".pst" file, and Lotus Notes uses a "local" database. >> >> > I just basically want to second the above. Archiving to me in this case > means removing from active use email that are older than a specified age > and storing it separately somewhere. I would love to see that in Kmail. > Did anyone say "plugins"? What happened to plugin writing? One of the ways of doing that would be to add a filter to the "view" thing on top of the window, filtering on the date of a folder, then move the messages to a different folder. Then on the disk there is a new file and a corresponding folder (in your .thunderbird or .mozilla-thunderbird directory) that you can copy wherever you like. Hardly automated, for sure, but for simple directory structure it's easy enough. HTH, Ignazio > > Sinclair > -- Ignazio Palmisano Ph.D. Student - palmisano at di.uniba.it, ignazio_io at yahoo.it From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 4 14:08:33 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:08:33 -0300 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper References: <4522727D.6020300@upf.edu> Message-ID: <1srcv3-3c8.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Thilo Six wrote: > Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 16:23: >> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in >> another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home >> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than >> with Edgy)? >> >> Thanks again in advance. > > IMHO it is not a good idea to share the home between them, > because there a new program versions in edgy which will change most > proabaly the files at first start. > > If you use then the dapper version again ... well this will lead surely > to problems. Since he's going to use different users, I don't see a problem. It should work fine. -- derek From samp at arial-concept.com Wed Oct 4 16:22:29 2006 From: samp at arial-concept.com (Sam Przyswa) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:22:29 +0200 Subject: HOW TO SET THE DEFAULT SOUND DEVICE ? Message-ID: <4523DFC5.5050501@arial-concept.com> Hi, Since my upgrade to Dapper from Breezy I have lot of problems the last, I have a USB-Phone for Skype but after reboot it become the default sound device, how to force the default sound device to my internal sound card /dev/dsp ????? Other bug never fixed, when I'm login on root I can't change the desktop display (icon size, screen saver, start screen, etc) Thanks in advance. Sam. -- Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a été trouvé. From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Wed Oct 4 17:37:38 2006 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 19:37:38 +0200 Subject: html email messages Message-ID: <200610041937.38754.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, Concerning: Kontakt and html messages. I'm subscripted to some newsletters. These newsletters (mails) are in html. 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Then, I decided to remove everything and restart the whole process... and I ended up with a postgresql-8.1 package expressing the same behavior, this time with a: /var/lib/dpkg/info/postgresql-8.1.prerm: line 17: /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions: Nessun file o directory (no file or directory) so now I have two packages that are listed as broken, I cannot uninstall them, and reinstalling has no effect apart from bringing up a lot of stuff that then I cannot remove completely. I already tried with KOrphan and with dpkg --force-all --purge, with no joy. Any other hint on how to remove obstinated packages? I'm thinking about looking into the list of installed files and hunt them one at a time, but that seems time consuming and inaccurate at best... Thank you for your help, Ignazio -- Ignazio Palmisano Ph.D. Student - palmisano at di.uniba.it, ignazio_io at yahoo.it From ejviolet at yahoo.com Wed Oct 4 19:50:33 2006 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 12:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <1srcv3-3c8.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Message-ID: <20061004195033.4930.qmail@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If this is being done to make files available to both edgy and dapper, I'd worry about configuration files being over written. I'd be more comfortable mounting one partition like the edgy home with dapper and sharing both that way and keeping the edgy and dapper configuration files separate. Earl --- Derek Broughton wrote: > Thilo Six wrote: > > > Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 16:23: > >> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory > in > >> another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share > home > >> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user > name than > >> with Edgy)? > >> > >> Thanks again in advance. > > > > IMHO it is not a good idea to share the home between them, > > because there a new program versions in edgy which will change > most > > proabaly the files at first start. > > > > If you use then the dapper version again ... well this will lead > surely > > to problems. > > Since he's going to use different users, I don't see a problem. It > should > work fine. > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From maye.co at gmail.com Wed Oct 4 21:02:45 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (M4y3c0) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:02:45 -0500 Subject: HOW TO SET THE DEFAULT SOUND DEVICE ? In-Reply-To: <4523DFC5.5050501@arial-concept.com> References: <4523DFC5.5050501@arial-concept.com> Message-ID: <200610041602.48983.maye.co@gmail.com> hi, asoundconf MY El Miércoles, 4 de Octubre de 2006 11:22 AM, Sam Przyswa escribió: > Hi, > > Since my upgrade to Dapper from Breezy I have lot of > problems the last, I have a USB-Phone for Skype but after > reboot it become the default sound device, how to force > the default sound device to my internal sound card > /dev/dsp ????? > > Other bug never fixed, when I'm login on root I can't > change the desktop display (icon size, screen saver, > start screen, etc) > > Thanks in advance. > > Sam. > > > -- > Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner > pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de > suspect n'a été trouvé. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <256f4e900609061537h5080125fqe28c6afd5ad67cb9@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609040901u5c56d2caq443cbb322cfd1851@mail.gmail.com> <200609041948.20487.tanghus@gmail.com> <256f4e900609051311n4da15432qb0fb861050340249@mail.gmail.com> <200609052235.33806.tanghus@gmail.com> <20060905210933.GA8217@let.rug.nl> <256f4e900609061537h5080125fqe28c6afd5ad67cb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610041708h339351b9ye828a7a259f19922@mail.gmail.com> FWIW, so there is perhaps closure on this thread: 1. It won't build from source (tons of compiler errors) 2. The project seems to be dead (attempts to e-mail people on the project page produce permanent errors). So I conclude that without a ton of work kdocker can't be used on 64-bit Kubuntu (although it can be used on 64-bit Mandriva). Does anyone know of an alternative to kdocker? Keeping sunbird taking up space in a taskbar in a virtual desktop of its own instead of being a little icon in the systray and available from every virtual desktop is rather annoying. From bpremeaux at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 00:38:28 2006 From: bpremeaux at gmail.com (Barry Premeaux) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:38:28 -0700 Subject: Fwd: PCMCIA Hardware Modem Problem In-Reply-To: <6c6b0bfc0610041455h18227abfg4db36d14e98bdf51@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c6b0bfc0610041455h18227abfg4db36d14e98bdf51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c6b0bfc0610041738v2993308l1a3352fbd1117293@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barry Premeaux Date: Oct 4, 2006 2:55 PM Subject: PCMCIA Hardware Modem Problem To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com I have an Acer AMD64 laptop. I am using a Zoom PCMCIA hardware modem. It doesn't show up in Kinfo Center and I can't see that Dapper Drake (64bit) even recognizes that I have any PCMCIA slots. They show up fine when I boot up Knoppix 5.0 (32bit). Can anyone help with this? Barry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Thu Oct 5 02:34:51 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 22:34:51 -0400 Subject: Kaffeine encoding methods ? Message-ID: <200610042234.51066.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Okay, how does one add flac to the encoded methods that I can select. both flac and ogg are installed, but only ogg shows up under the menu for encoding. (ODD) Thanks - in advance. Rich From kubuntu at mekanix.dk Thu Oct 5 06:42:59 2006 From: kubuntu at mekanix.dk (Bjarne Wichmann Petersen) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:42:59 +0200 Subject: DigiKam and ACL In-Reply-To: References: <200610012317.17208.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200610040852.05690.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: <200610050843.00218.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> On Wednesday 04 October 2006 09:14, Toby Dickenson wrote: > The 'Camera' menu then has a new entry for accessing this camera when > mounted. It has a nice gui for previewing photos, selectively downloading > them into a new album, and deleting them from the camera. It also uses > umask to set permissions on the downloaded file. Great! Now, everything works just the way we want. Almost. We just have to remember to set permissions manually, if we import pictures from CD-ROMs, Mails etc. Thanks for the help! ;-) > > My camera gets mounted as a USB mass-storage device, with the > > default-permission: "-rwx-r-x-r-x". > Thats also interesting. I am seeing files in mounted media using 0700 > permissions (-rwx------). I wonder where that difference comes from. ?? Bjarne From eduard.bonet at upf.edu Thu Oct 5 09:13:53 2006 From: eduard.bonet at upf.edu (Eduard) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:13:53 +0200 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper In-Reply-To: <20061004195033.4930.qmail@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061004195033.4930.qmail@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4524CCD1.9030905@upf.edu> Earl Violet wrote: > If this is being done to make files available to both edgy and > dapper, I'd worry about configuration files being over written. I'd > be more comfortable mounting one partition like the edgy home with > dapper and sharing both that way and keeping the edgy and dapper > configuration files separate. > > Earl > > --- Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Thilo Six wrote: >> >>> Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 16:23: >>>> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory >> in >>>> another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share >> home >>>> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user >> name than >>>> with Edgy)? >>>> >>>> Thanks again in advance. >>> IMHO it is not a good idea to share the home between them, >>> because there a new program versions in edgy which will change >> most >>> proabaly the files at first start. >>> >>> If you use then the dapper version again ... well this will lead >> surely >>> to problems. >> Since he's going to use different users, I don't see a problem. It >> should >> work fine. >> -- >> derek >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Thanks, i will try it taking care of my sensible data and let you know about the experience. From bill at richard19.plus.com Thu Oct 5 09:44:30 2006 From: bill at richard19.plus.com (Bill) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:44:30 +0100 Subject: Boot loader References: <1159906738.23567.18.camel@ocon1.localdomain> <4522C86C.8070307@googlemail.com> <45230776.9080108@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <000801c6e862$e4b712c0$0201a8c0@dgtech> I know of two ways to fix the MBR. I requires a bit of faith to get past the dire warnings. Both require the presence of XP or Win2k on the PC, and I have used them only after removing Ubuntu or Kubuntu from my PC during my experiments with Linux systems dual booted with Windows. I have not repaired the MBR with Ubuntu or Kubuntu installed. I chance upon this method when removing Ubuntu or Kubuntu from my PC. The only way I know is to use a partition manager in Windows (Partition Magic or Paragon Partition Manager) to delete the linux partitions. When this has been done. the PC will not boot because the MBR is wrong. Solution: Boot the PC with an XP or Win2k installation CD. Choose Repair Console (R). If asked which windows system, choose [1]; if asked type the administrators password (if working without one, just press Enter). When the command prompt appears, type FIXMBR, then press Enter. You will have to confirm with a [Y] that you accept the warning, and the job is done. The PC should then boot to windows and all trace of Ubuntu or Kubuntu is gone. Generally, I use Partition Magic afterwards to inspect the partitions on the hard drive. On one occasion only, it could not see the drive properly because of some error in the MBR, although XP opened and ran correctly. I have a free copy of Paragon Partition Manager from a magazine cover disk. When that was installed and run in XP, it could see the partition structure. Moreover, it has a facility to Repair MBR. I took a chance and it worked. I hope this helps. Also, if anybody can provide a simpler method of uninstalling Ubuntu or Kubuntu, I'd be very grateful. Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Goetz" To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:59 AM Subject: Re: Boot loader > Jeff Yowell wrote: >> None of the instructions within that document correspond to anything >> resembling an Ubuntu disk formatting screen. I too am looking for >> instructions on how to fix the MBR. Does anyone know where I can >> find any? >> >> >> On Oct 3, 2006, at 3:30 PM, SteVe Cook wrote: >> >>> Maurice O'Connor wrote: >>>> Kubuntu has the very nice feature of looking for other OS and >>>> including >>>> them in the boot menu. However if I install another OS and don't >>>> install it's boot loader, the new OS won't show in the menu. Is >>>> there a >>>> way to run the boot loader without re-installing kubuntu? >>>> >>> Yes, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub >>> >>> SteVe >>> > > try here > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows > kk > > -- > Karl Goetz > The buck stops there -> $ > Australian Ubuntu users team - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net From ejviolet at yahoo.com Thu Oct 5 15:05:10 2006 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kubuntu-Windows network Message-ID: <20061005150510.67204.qmail@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yesterday morning I moved a document from my Kubuntu machine to a shared folder on a computer running Win2k. Yesterday afternoon I tried to move another document, I got a message "timeout on server." Is this because I use dynamic IP addresses and not static ones? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 5 14:36:24 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:36:24 -0300 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper References: <1srcv3-3c8.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <20061004195033.4930.qmail@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8shfv3-ucl.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Earl Violet wrote: please don't top post. Now I have to mangle... > If this [using a shared HOME partition with separate users] > is being done to make files available to both edgy and > dapper, I'd worry about configuration files being over written. I'd It depends what else is shared. /etc _can't_ be - it has to be on the root partition, and if you don't have different root partitions for edgy and dapper, I don't see how you can actually say you have both versions installed. I can't remember if you can share /usr - if you can _and do_, you'll have problems. > be more comfortable mounting one partition like the edgy home with > dapper and sharing both that way and keeping the edgy and dapper > configuration files separate. As long as /usr & /etc are on separate partitions for the two versions, and you're using different users, you won't have any problem. -- derek From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 15:40:39 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 09:40:39 -0600 Subject: cron.daily questions Message-ID: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> I installed tmpreaper yesterday, and configured it (or so I thought) to delete files with a ctime > 30 days from the /tmp tree. But this morning there are still lots of files with ctime > 30 days present in the /tmp tree... So: 1. How do I figure out what time of day the jobs in cron.daily are run? 2. How do I find the output from the jobs that are run in cron.daily? From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 15:43:52 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 09:43:52 -0600 Subject: "MARK" entries in /var/log/messages Message-ID: <256f4e900610050843k6d4b63do4140dc5819c3494d@mail.gmail.com> When I look in /var/log/messages, I see a ton of lines that look like this: Oct 4 18:37:27 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 18:57:28 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 19:17:28 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 19:37:28 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 19:57:28 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 20:17:29 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 20:37:29 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 20:57:29 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 21:17:29 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 21:37:30 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 21:57:30 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 22:17:30 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 22:37:30 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 22:57:31 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 23:17:31 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 23:37:31 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 4 23:57:31 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 5 00:17:32 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 5 00:37:32 homebrew -- MARK -- Oct 5 00:57:32 homebrew -- MARK -- What is causing these? They form by far the majority of the messages in /var/log/messages, and they seem singularly useless. From necteno at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 15:51:20 2006 From: necteno at gmail.com (Martin B.) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 17:51:20 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Testing Team is born! Message-ID: <704a2fef0610050851t44bedd19x4e3fa32b8f554f19@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone in kubuntu-users! It's my pleasant duty to introduce to you the brand new Kubuntu Testing Team. We are a group of experienced Kubuntu users who contribute to the Kubuntu Project by testing new packages, upcoming releases and daily CD builds. We also manage to have fun doing it :o) You can find more about us at our wiki page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters or you can contact us in person in the IRC channel #kubuntu-testers on freenode. Since we're a brand new team we welcome new members heartily. The team is open, there are no requirements for joining in, no programming skills necessary. Just open the launchpad page at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-testers and hop in! I look forward to all you new members! Martin Böhm From goksina at anadolu.edu.tr Thu Oct 5 15:59:59 2006 From: goksina at anadolu.edu.tr (Goksin Akdeniz) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:59:59 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Testing Team is born! In-Reply-To: <704a2fef0610050851t44bedd19x4e3fa32b8f554f19@mail.gmail.com> References: <704a2fef0610050851t44bedd19x4e3fa32b8f554f19@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610051900.04532.goksina@anadolu.edu.tr> > Hello everyone in kubuntu-users! > It's my pleasant duty to introduce to you the brand new Kubuntu Testing > Team. > > We are a group of experienced Kubuntu users who contribute to the > Kubuntu Project by testing new packages, upcoming releases and daily > CD builds. We also manage to have fun doing it :o) You can find more > about us at our wiki page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTesters or > you can contact us in person in the IRC channel #kubuntu-testers on > freenode. > > Since we're a brand new team we welcome new members heartily. The team > is open, there are no requirements for joining in, no programming > skills necessary. Just open the launchpad page at > https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-testers and hop in! > > I look forward to all you new members! > Martin Böhm Hello Martin. I am happy with the news. I will spread the word in news section of my e-magazine enixma. I hope my 2 cents will gather more testers. Goksin Akdeniz www.enixma.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Thu Oct 5 18:18:39 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:18:39 -0400 Subject: Sending files with Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <880dece00610051001p203a3f41v80ecc6e8e433f4e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610051001p203a3f41v80ecc6e8e433f4e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45254C7F.8000308@optonline.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: >I cannot seem to send files with Kubuntu using wither the Yahoo or MSN >protocols. I haven't tried any of the others. I remember reading that >this was fixed a while ago, has the fix not made its way into Kubuntu? > >Thanks in advance. > >Dotan Cohen >http://what-is-what.com > > > I have the same issue. also, can´t receive files or view webcams with the same. That is, using gaim, of course. I assume you are using gaim? Or, does Kopete work with MSN, too? I´ve never tried it. tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From ricardo.gorayeb at fucapi.br Thu Oct 5 18:22:17 2006 From: ricardo.gorayeb at fucapi.br (Ricardo Gorayeb) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:22:17 -0400 Subject: smbpasswd command problem Message-ID: <45254D59.8050309@fucapi.br> Hi All, I'm trying to change my password over ldap with the command in a Kubuntu Machine: * smbpasswd -r 170.10.6.100 * and i got the following error: *cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code NT code 0x1c010002 received from remote machine 170.10.6.100 pipe \samr fnum 0x76a6! machine 170.10.6.100 rejected the password change: Error was : NT code 0x1c010002. Failed to change password for ricardogorayeb* I have already try to change in a Debian and Red Hat ES4 machine, and i got sucess. Why i'm not get success in a Kubuntu Machine???? Does anybody help?? Thank You. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Ricardo Gorayeb Costa - SUAUF - CSER Linux User: #406391 Tel.: (0xx92) 3614-3169 / Fax: (0xx92) 3613-2700 * *FUCAPI - Fundação Centro de Análise, Pesquisa e Inovação Tecnológica* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ As informações existentes nessa mensagem e nos arquivos anexados são para uso restrito, sendo seu sigilo protegido por lei. Caso não seja destinatário, saiba que leitura, divulgação ou cópia são proibidas. Favor apagar as informações e notificar o remetente. O uso impróprio será tratado conforme as normas da empresa e a legislação em vigor. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I remember reading that >> this was fixed a while ago, has the fix not made its way into Kubuntu? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Dotan Cohen >> http://what-is-what.com >> >> >> > I have the same issue. > also, can´t receive files or view webcams with the same. > That is, using gaim, of course. I assume you are using gaim? > Or, does Kopete work with MSN, too? I´ve never tried it. > > > tony > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From matti.oinas at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 18:39:30 2006 From: matti.oinas at gmail.com (Matti Oinas) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 21:39:30 +0300 Subject: Sending files with Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610051001p203a3f41v80ecc6e8e433f4e3@mail.gmail.com> <45254C7F.8000308@optonline.net> Message-ID: <45255162.9040307@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 18:53:20 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:53:20 +0200 Subject: Sending files with Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <45254C7F.8000308@optonline.net> References: <880dece00610051001p203a3f41v80ecc6e8e433f4e3@mail.gmail.com> <45254C7F.8000308@optonline.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610051153r14ce3d42y9f7549e5a2e4c121@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, thought that I mentioned it. I'm using Kopete. Webcams work (my Logitech Quickcam worked out of the box), but file transfers do not. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 22:39:47 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:39:47 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu-Windows network In-Reply-To: <20061005150510.67204.qmail@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061005150510.67204.qmail@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <452589B3.1080403@gmail.com> Earl Violet said the following at 10/05/2006 09:05 AM : > Yesterday morning I moved a document from my Kubuntu machine to a > shared folder on a computer running Win2k. Yesterday afternoon I > tried to move another document, I got a message "timeout on server." > Is this because I use dynamic IP addresses and not static ones? > Is this across a LAN or across a VPN? I have not used dynamic IP addresses for years, so I don't know whether that may indeed have something to do with your problem, but I do know that I used to see this kind of behaviour sporadically when moving large files across a VPN until I started to use the IPTOS_THROUGHPUT socket option when mounting the remote filesystem. Doc From samp at arial-concept.com Fri Oct 6 00:03:24 2006 From: samp at arial-concept.com (Sam Przyswa) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:03:24 +0200 Subject: HOW TO SET THE DEFAULT SOUND DEVICE ? In-Reply-To: <200610041602.48983.maye.co@gmail.com> References: <4523DFC5.5050501@arial-concept.com> <200610041602.48983.maye.co@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45259D4C.3040007@arial-concept.com> M4y3c0 a écrit : > > hi, > > asoundconf > Thanks a lot ! Sam. > MY > > El Miércoles, 4 de Octubre de 2006 11:22 AM, Sam Przyswa escribió: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Since my upgrade to Dapper from Breezy I have lot of > > > problems the last, I have a USB-Phone for Skype but after > > > reboot it become the default sound device, how to force > > > the default sound device to my internal sound card > > > /dev/dsp ????? > > > > > > Other bug never fixed, when I'm login on root I can't > > > change the desktop display (icon size, screen saver, > > > start screen, etc) > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Sam. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner > > > pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de > > > suspect n'a été trouvé. > -- Sam Przyswa - Chef de projet Arial Concept - Intégrateur Internet 36, rue de Turin - 75008 - Paris - France Tel: 01 40 54 86 04 - 0870 444 596 - Fax: 01 40 54 83 01 Skype ID: arial-concept Web: http://www.arial-concept.com - Email: Info at arial-concept.com -- Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a été trouvé. From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Fri Oct 6 01:53:26 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:53:26 -0700 Subject: "MARK" entries in /var/log/messages In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610050843k6d4b63do4140dc5819c3494d@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610050843k6d4b63do4140dc5819c3494d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610051853.26948.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Thursday 05 October 2006 08:43, D. R. Evans wrote: > When I look in /var/log/messages, I see a ton of lines that look like this: > > Oct 4 18:37:27 homebrew -- MARK -- Its just syslog saying its alive, even though there is nothing to report. I wondered about this, but now I am happy to see it. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Fri Oct 6 03:26:04 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:26:04 -0700 Subject: More on K3b not loading In-Reply-To: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200610052026.04255.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 21:20, Rob Blomquist wrote: > My .xsession-errors file (17Mb!!) contains these lines: No need to see any more of this email, as I rebooted the machine right after sending it, and found that K3b came up twice after logging in. Good grief, what a fool I am for forgetting to kill off zombie processes when something crashes. -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Fri Oct 6 03:31:58 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:31:58 -0700 Subject: cron.daily questions In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610052031.58755.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Thursday 05 October 2006 08:40, D. R. Evans wrote: > I installed tmpreaper yesterday, and configured it (or so I thought) > to delete files with a ctime > 30 days from the /tmp tree. > > But this morning there are still lots of files with ctime > 30 days > present in the /tmp tree... > > So: > > 1. How do I figure out what time of day the jobs in cron.daily are run? Well, cron takes care of the jobs in cron-daily, you should not edit it. What you want to do is edit the root crontab file for system wide processes, and a user crontab for user processes. For more on this, you can read the manpage for cron or crontab. Or go to one of the 86 million pages that show how to properly code cron commands. I always put the code in a top line of each crontab, so I don't need to see it every time I want to edit a crontab. > 2. How do I find the output from the jobs that are run in cron.daily? Read up on cron, either in the man pages or on the web. If you have a functioning smtp server, cron can send an email every time it runs a job with the output from that job. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Oct 6 05:37:33 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:37:33 +0200 Subject: .xsession-errors file was Re: More on K3b not loading In-Reply-To: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4525EB9D.1060506@rmk.co.il> Rob Blomquist wrote: > My .xsession-errors file (17Mb!!) contains these lines: Mine is [a staggering] 292.2Mb ! (I've kept my /home directory intact across several installs over a couple of years - so maybe that's why it's so big). Can one safely delete this file? > > Rob > > Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Fri Oct 6 06:05:57 2006 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:05:57 +1000 Subject: Edgy Beta Report Message-ID: <200610061605.58021.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> I am using Edgy (Beta) on this iMac ... and am generally very impressed!! There's plenty of daily downloads of 'fixes' as you might expect ... but everything seems to be working on my desktop. This old iMac is a bit slow so I dropped OpenOffice off the desktop ... replacing it with the slightly faster (and smaller) KOffice suite. Ever since then my Adept updater has been trying to re-install the OpenOffice. I get around this problem by using 'apt-get update' in a terminal ... Has anyone else noticed this behaviour?? I managed to get a softphone downloaded and installed ... 'Twinkle'. Definitely worth a try if you have broadband! For me KPhone produced unacceptable noise (?feedback?) although it did work i.e. it would dial out. Maybe I needed to use a handset ... but this iMac has builtin mixc and speakers. Can't wait for the release version... Richard -- Irena & Richard Jenkins Canberra, AUSTRALIA SIPME: 1777104004 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From daniel at rimspace.net Fri Oct 6 07:05:25 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:05:25 +1000 Subject: .xsession-errors file was Re: More on K3b not loading References: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <4525EB9D.1060506@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <87irix3owa.fsf@rimspace.net> Nigel Ridley writes: > Rob Blomquist wrote: >> My .xsession-errors file (17Mb!!) contains these lines: > > Mine is [a staggering] 292.2Mb ! (I've kept my /home directory intact > across several installs over a couple of years - so maybe that's why > it's so big). > > Can one safely delete this file? Yes. Recent changes in Edgy will also do this automatically for you. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From dsterken at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 07:29:04 2006 From: dsterken at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 00:29:04 -0700 Subject: SU & SUDO Message-ID: I would like to be able to disable the SUDO command and enable SU but I can't find the conf files for it, would someone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance. -- Dave Sterken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One quick way is to do: sudo passwd or sudo su passwd This should allow you to set a password, then you can use su - to log into root traditionally. -- > Dave Sterken > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See `man sudo_root` for more infos. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raphaël Pinson - raphink at ichthux.com http://www.raphink.info Ichthux - http://www.ichthux.com - Linux for Christians -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Fri Oct 6 08:35:19 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:35:19 +0000 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20061006083519.GA20789@jabberpl.org> On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 03:10:08AM -0500, Hawkwind wrote: > On 10/6/06, Dave wrote: > > > >I would like to be able to disable the SUDO command and enable SU but I > >can't find the conf files for it, would someone be so kind as to point me > >in > >the right direction? Thanks in advance. > > > > One quick way is to do: > > sudo passwd or sudo su passwd > > This should allow you to set a password, then you can use su - to log into > root traditionally. Ok, but what then with kde stuff? I heard, that some parts of kde are hacked by kubuntu devs - to use sudo instead of su. Simply passwd root doesn't break this functionality? -- bluszcz http://glam.pl vintage From raphink at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 6 08:50:42 2006 From: raphink at ubuntu.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Pinson?=) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:50:42 +0200 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: <20061006083519.GA20789@jabberpl.org> References: <20061006083519.GA20789@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <8ce271500610060150l281ff0abh87d8853d4987b35f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/6/06, bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 03:10:08AM -0500, Hawkwind wrote: > > On 10/6/06, Dave wrote: > > > > > >I would like to be able to disable the SUDO command and enable SU but I > > >can't find the conf files for it, would someone be so kind as to point > me > > >in > > >the right direction? Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > One quick way is to do: > > > > sudo passwd or sudo su passwd > > > > This should allow you to set a password, then you can use su - to log > into > > root traditionally. > > Ok, but what then with kde stuff? I heard, that some parts of kde are > hacked by kubuntu devs - to use sudo instead of su. > > Simply passwd root doesn't break this functionality? It won't break the functionality. KDE apps will still ask for your own password with kdesu. This will be so unless you rebuild kdebase/kdelibs without the patches, but I doubt you want to do that ;) passwd root simply affects a password to the root account, while it doesn't have one by default. Note that it is not recommended to do so, because it adds another user with super cow powers, and your primary user already has them through sudo. There are ways to get a root prompt without affecting a password to the root account: * sudo su : logs you as root * sudo -i : equivalent of sudo su * sudo -s : permanent sudo, logs you as root but keeps your own ~ so you keep your settings and paths -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raphaël Pinson - raphink at ichthux.com http://www.raphink.info Ichthux - http://www.ichthux.com - Linux for Christians -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Fri Oct 6 09:05:34 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:05:34 +0000 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: <8ce271500610060150l281ff0abh87d8853d4987b35f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061006083519.GA20789@jabberpl.org> <8ce271500610060150l281ff0abh87d8853d4987b35f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061006090534.GB20789@jabberpl.org> > >Ok, but what then with kde stuff? I heard, that some parts of kde are > >hacked by kubuntu devs - to use sudo instead of su. > > > >Simply passwd root doesn't break this functionality? > > > > It won't break the functionality. KDE apps will still ask for your own > password with kdesu. This will be so unless you rebuild kdebase/kdelibs > without the patches, but I doubt you want to do that ;) I won't do this - I am happy as sudo oriented user ;) -- http://glam.pl From daniel at rimspace.net Fri Oct 6 08:24:31 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 18:24:31 +1000 Subject: SU & SUDO References: Message-ID: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> Dave writes: > I would like to be able to disable the SUDO command and enable SU but > I can't find the conf files for it, would someone be so kind as to > point me in the right direction? Enable use of su(1) is reasonable, but Ubuntu may not work as well as you would hope if you disable sudo(8) -- not least of which because it is used internally to obtain root access with a number of the GUI administrative tools. To enable su(1) to work simply set a password for your root user. You can then use that password to log in as root no matter what mechanism, including su. Now, the real question here is *why* you want to do this? Obviously you have some reason for wanting to replace sudo with su, and if you share it with us there may turn out to be a better way to address your problem. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Fri Oct 6 10:03:27 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:03:27 +0000 Subject: smbpasswd command problem In-Reply-To: <45254D59.8050309@fucapi.br> References: <45254D59.8050309@fucapi.br> Message-ID: <20061006100327.GC20789@jabberpl.org> On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 02:22:17PM -0400, Ricardo Gorayeb wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to change my password over ldap with the command in a Kubuntu > Machine: > * > smbpasswd -r 170.10.6.100 > * > and i got the following error: > > > *cli_pipe_validate_current_pdu: RPC fault code NT code 0x1c010002 > received from remote machine 170.10.6.100 pipe \samr fnum 0x76a6! > machine 170.10.6.100 rejected the password change: Error was : NT code > 0x1c010002. > Failed to change password for ricardogorayeb* > > I have already try to change in a Debian and Red Hat ES4 machine, and i > got sucess. > > Why i'm not get success in a Kubuntu Machine???? I am using samba anymore, but i used google: http://search.webservertalk.com/message1671633.html I hope it helps. -- bluszcz From buzzy01 at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 10:14:14 2006 From: buzzy01 at gmail.com (Buzzy!) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:14:14 +0200 Subject: best audio/sound converter... Message-ID: hello everybody! please can you suggest me the best audio converter(s)? i need to convert wav to mp3. thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guido.dom at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 10:17:22 2006 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:17:22 +0200 Subject: best audio/sound converter... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sound Converter On 10/6/06, Buzzy! wrote: > > hello everybody! > please can you suggest me the best audio converter(s)? > i need to convert wav to mp3. > thanks > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (dompie) Dom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ever > since then my Adept updater has been trying to re-install the > OpenOffice. I > get around this problem by using 'apt-get update' in a terminal ... Has > anyone else noticed this behaviour?? > > I managed to get a softphone downloaded and installed ... 'Twinkle'. > Definitely worth a try if you have broadband! For me KPhone produced > unacceptable noise (?feedback?) although it did work i.e. it would dial > out. > Maybe I needed to use a handset ... but this iMac has builtin mixc and > speakers. > > Can't wait for the release version... > > Richard > -- > Irena & Richard Jenkins > Canberra, AUSTRALIA > SIPME: 1777104004 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buzzy01 at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 10:26:48 2006 From: buzzy01 at gmail.com (Buzzy!) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:26:48 +0200 Subject: best audio/sound converter... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: grazie :) On 10/6/06, guido dom wrote: > > Sound Converter > > On 10/6/06, Buzzy! wrote: > > > hello everybody! > > please can you suggest me the best audio converter(s)? > > i need to convert wav to mp3. > > thanks > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -- > Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 > > Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. > > Guido (dompie) Dom > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buzzy01 at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 10:46:17 2006 From: buzzy01 at gmail.com (Buzzy!) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 12:46:17 +0200 Subject: best audio/sound converter... 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Hans Poppe Oslo, Norway -- *************** Nil conscire sibi, nulla pallecere culpa! From hans at poppe.nu Fri Oct 6 10:58:39 2006 From: hans at poppe.nu (Hans Poppe) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:58:39 +0200 Subject: KDE Sources.list ? References: <200610032058.02072.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: Richard wisely stated: > Are there any good KDE sources.list that I could Add to my sources.list > file. running edgy > > Thanks - > Rich Are there any packages you are looking for and not finding through the usual repositories? You could make a backup copy of your sources.list and then try to run either Automatix or EasyUbuntu. This will add several new repositories, also backports of several kinds. Do make a copy of it first though, you may not want _all_ of the repositories added by these applications. This question seems to be a frequent question and sometimes it may even seem that the user is looking for codeks to play mp3 or DVD. Both Automatix and EasyUbuntu will provide these, be aware that downloading and installing codeks may not be legal in all countys, please check and make a desicion :-) Hans Poppe Oslo, Norway -- *************** Nil conscire sibi, nulla pallecere culpa! From guido.dom at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 11:00:01 2006 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:00:01 +0200 Subject: best audio/sound converter... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I installed with apt-get install -i soundconverter It is visible in Aplications Audio and Video It starts when doubleclicking That's all I know On 10/6/06, Buzzy! wrote: > > ops: i meant thanks!! :D > > but i have a problem: it does not start!! > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610060630.20842.maye.co@gmail.com> lame -b 128 /path/file.wav /path/file.mp3 128 <- bitrate M4y3c0 El Viernes, 6 de Octubre de 2006 5:14 AM, Buzzy! escribió: > hello everybody! > please can you suggest me the best audio converter(s)? > i need to convert wav to mp3. > thanks -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Fri Oct 6 12:12:28 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 05:12:28 -0700 Subject: best audio/sound converter... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610060512.29179.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Friday 06 October 2006 03:46 am, Buzzy! wrote: > ops: i meant thanks!! :D > > but i have a problem: it does not start!! lame is what you need -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From buzzy01 at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 11:54:04 2006 From: buzzy01 at gmail.com (Buzzy!) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:54:04 +0200 Subject: best audio/sound converter... In-Reply-To: <200610060512.29179.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <200610060512.29179.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: i tried lame: lame test.wav test.mp3 but i get a test.mp3 file that is much much much smaller and it has not the audi contained in the wav... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have you tried > sudo smbpasswd ... ? > > Hans Poppe > Oslo, Norway > Yes, I've tried using sudo, but the same error apears. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Ricardo Gorayeb Costa - SUAUF - CSER Linux User: #406391 Tel.: (0xx92) 3614-3169 / Fax: (0xx92) 3613-2700 * *FUCAPI - Fundação Centro de Análise, Pesquisa e Inovação Tecnológica* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ As informações existentes nessa mensagem e nos arquivos anexados são para uso restrito, sendo seu sigilo protegido por lei. Caso não seja destinatário, saiba que leitura, divulgação ou cópia são proibidas. Favor apagar as informações e notificar o remetente. O uso impróprio será tratado conforme as normas da empresa e a legislação em vigor. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <200610060731.39129.maye.co@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610060803.28046.maye.co@gmail.com> yeah, maybe is a codec problem try to download the 3.97 lame version from http://www.mp3dev.org/ and build it from source: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=290&package_id=309 and read this: http://lame.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/lame/lame/USAGE also try to use the transKode script for amaroK is very good http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37669 -- M4y3c0 El Viernes, 6 de Octubre de 2006 7:22 AM, Buzzy! escribió: > not latest version, > i tried both commands but i get files of 52kb and no > audio!!! maybe it's codec problem?? > > On 10/6/06, M4y3c0 wrote: > > 1-did you try > > lame test.wav test.mp3 > > or > > lame -b 128 /path/file.wav /path/file.mp3 > > and your mp3 file should be much much smaller that a > > wav audio file, is that the idea of mp3 encode right? > > 2-what version do you have? > > LAME 32bits version 3.97 (beta 3, Aug 27 2006) > > (http://www.mp3dev.org/) > > > > M4y3c0 > > > > El Viernes, 6 de Octubre de 2006 6:54 AM, Buzzy! escribió: > > > i tried lame: > > > lame test.wav test.mp3 > > > but i get a test.mp3 file that is much much much > > > smaller and it has not the audi contained in the > > > wav... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 12:52:20 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:52:20 -0500 Subject: Edgy's new startup scripts Message-ID: <200610060752.20508.dhcolesj@gmail.com> I have read that Edgy uses a different style of startup scripting, more event based. I haven't used it, so I'm not familiar with how wonderful it really is. My question is are we now going to have to learn a new non-standardized startup method for every distro we may want to use? I understand this method may be far superior to sysvinit style scripting, However, I'm afraid that if we have 100 distros all using different forms of startup scripting we'll wind up with a very unpopular OS from an app development perspective. I have also not read anything about this being LSB certified, or any other distros adopting this new method, and that worries me. Also, were would one find a good set of "howtos" on doing any customization of this new style? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From jjesse at iserv.net Fri Oct 6 12:56:27 2006 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Edgy's new startup scripts In-Reply-To: <200610060752.20508.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610060752.20508.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56420.198.105.65.197.1160139387.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Good morning, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ has a lot of information in regards to upstart the new startup scripting that Kubuntu/Ubuntu has. Jonathan > I have read that Edgy uses a different style of startup scripting, more > event > based. I haven't used it, so I'm not familiar with how wonderful it > really > is. My question is are we now going to have to learn a new > non-standardized > startup method for every distro we may want to use? > I understand this method may be far superior to sysvinit style scripting, > However, I'm afraid that if we have 100 distros all using different forms > of > startup scripting we'll wind up with a very unpopular OS from an app > development perspective. I have also not read anything about this being > LSB > certified, or any other distros adopting this new method, and that worries > me. > Also, were would one find a good set of "howtos" on doing any > customization of > this new style? > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- Jonathan Jesse From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 6 12:59:07 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 09:59:07 -0300 Subject: .xsession-errors file was Re: More on K3b not loading References: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <4525EB9D.1060506@rmk.co.il> <87irix3owa.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: Daniel Pittman wrote: > Nigel Ridley writes: >> Rob Blomquist wrote: >>> My .xsession-errors file (17Mb!!) contains these lines: >> >> Mine is [a staggering] 292.2Mb ! (I've kept my /home directory intact >> across several installs over a couple of years - so maybe that's why >> it's so big). >> >> Can one safely delete this file? > > Yes. Recent changes in Edgy will also do this automatically for you. > Oh, well that explains why mine gets cleaned out at KDM restart... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 6 12:58:30 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 09:58:30 -0300 Subject: .xsession-errors file and KDE debugging output References: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <4525EB9D.1060506@rmk.co.il> <200610061400.10766.oyvinst@ifi.uio.no> Message-ID: Øyvind Stegard wrote: > On Friday 06 October 2006 07:37, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Rob Blomquist wrote: >> > My .xsession-errors file (17Mb!!) contains these lines: >> >> Mine is [a staggering] 292.2Mb ! (I've kept my /home directory intact >> across several installs over a couple of years - so maybe that's why >> it's so big). > > To Kubuntu KDE core package maintainer(s): > Wouldn't it be possible to reduce the debugging output of KDE applications > in the Kubuntu builds ? It's extremely annoying when starting KDE apps > from the command line, for instance. In addition, the ~/.xsession-errors > file is totally spammed and grows ridiculously big. please don't use terms like "spammed". Nobody's being malicious. It would be nice if most programs could have that output suppressed with a switch, but it's Unix-traditional to just redirect stderr (eg: kate 2>/dev/null). I'm not sure why yours are so large - mine gets cleaned out every time KDM restarts. To the person who asked, yes, you can certainly delete it. -- derek From oyvinst at ifi.uio.no Fri Oct 6 13:53:05 2006 From: oyvinst at ifi.uio.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?=D8yvind_Stegard?=) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 15:53:05 +0200 Subject: .xsession-errors file and KDE debugging output In-Reply-To: References: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <200610061400.10766.oyvinst@ifi.uio.no> Message-ID: <200610061553.06040.oyvinst@ifi.uio.no> On Friday 06 October 2006 14:58, Derek Broughton wrote: > please don't use terms like "spammed". Nobody's being malicious. It would My intention was not to indicate malicious packagers. The Kubuntu KDE packages are generally solid and of good quality. "Filled with heaps of KDE debug messages", then. > be nice if most programs could have that output suppressed with a switch, > but it's Unix-traditional to just redirect stderr (eg: kate 2>/dev/null). Of course, I know this, but that's cumbersome to type just for all KDE apps. There is a nice gcc switch called '-DNDEBUG' that can be used when compiling KDE :). I do realize that bug-reports might be of better quality when the debug output is available. > > I'm not sure why yours are so large - mine gets cleaned out every time KDM > restarts. Mine to. .xsession-errors is not the biggst of issues, but having to silence KDE apps' stderr from the terminal is. I guess I'll end up rebuilding all the packages (w/o debugging) myself. Øyvind -- < Øyvind Stegard < oyvinst at ifi uio no > < http://www.oyvind.nu/ From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 14:49:20 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 08:49:20 -0600 Subject: cron.daily questions In-Reply-To: <200610052031.58755.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> <200610052031.58755.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45266CF0.1050005@gmail.com> Rob Blomquist said the following at 10/05/2006 09:31 PM : > On Thursday 05 October 2006 08:40, D. R. Evans wrote: >> I installed tmpreaper yesterday, and configured it (or so I thought) >> to delete files with a ctime > 30 days from the /tmp tree. >> >> But this morning there are still lots of files with ctime > 30 days >> present in the /tmp tree... >> >> So: >> >> 1. How do I figure out what time of day the jobs in cron.daily are run? > Well, cron takes care of the jobs in cron-daily, you should not edit it. What > you want to do is edit the root crontab file for system wide processes, and a > user crontab for user processes. > I understand all that. I didn't edit anything in cron.daily. When I installed tmpreaper it installed a file in that directory. Since I see no indication that tmpreaper is actually being run, though, I wanted to know when the files in cron.daily are supposed to be run. > For more on this, you can read the manpage for cron or crontab. Or go to one > of the 86 million pages that show how to properly code cron commands. I > always put the code in a top line of each crontab, so I don't need to see it > every time I want to edit a crontab. No no no. I know how to use cron :-) I just want to know how cron decides that it's time to run the files in cron.daily. I can't find that info anywhere I've looked. Which obviously means that I haven't looked in the right place or come up with the right google search :-) >> 2. How do I find the output from the jobs that are run in cron.daily? > Read up on cron, either in the man pages or on the web. If you have a > functioning smtp server, cron can send an email every time it runs a job with > the output from that job. > Yes, I know how to set up a cron job myself and how to put the uotput somewhere (including e-mailing it to myself). What I don't know is where cron puts the output in the absence of me doing anything. So, to summarize... 1. I installed tmpreaper. 2. The process of installing tmpreaper puts a tmpreaper file in cron.daily. So therefore tmpreaper is going to be run once per day, at some unknown time. 3. I edited /etc/tmpreaper.conf so that when tmpreaper runs, it should do what I want. 4. But tmpreaper doesn't seem to be running. At least, the files aren't being deleted. So I want to find out if tmpreaper really is being run, and, if so, what the output is. But I don't know when it's supposed to be running, or where it's supposed to be putting its output. Hope that makes my questions clearer. Doc From sundar.personal at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 16:33:25 2006 From: sundar.personal at gmail.com (Sundar Nagarajan) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 09:33:25 -0700 Subject: "MARK" entries in /var/log/messages In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610050843k6d4b63do4140dc5819c3494d@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610050843k6d4b63do4140dc5819c3494d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans wrote: > When I look in /var/log/messages, I see a ton of lines that look like this: > > Oct 4 18:37:27 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 18:57:28 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 19:17:28 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 19:37:28 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 19:57:28 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 20:17:29 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 20:37:29 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 20:57:29 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 21:17:29 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 21:37:30 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 21:57:30 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 22:17:30 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 22:37:30 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 22:57:31 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 23:17:31 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 23:37:31 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 4 23:57:31 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 5 00:17:32 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 5 00:37:32 homebrew -- MARK -- > Oct 5 00:57:32 homebrew -- MARK -- > > What is causing these? They form by far the majority of the messages > in /var/log/messages, and they seem singularly useless. > It is caused by syslog marking a timestamp regularly. The default setting is to mark the timestamp every 20 mins. Quoting from 'man syslogd': -m interval The syslogd logs a mark timestamp regularly. The default interval between two -- MARK -- lines is 20 minutes. This can be changed with this option. Setting the interval to zero turns it off entirely. If you want to disable this entirely, look for the file named /etc/init.d/sysklogd (note the 'k'; it is sysklogd and not syslogd). Towards the top of the file look for a line that says: SYSLOGD="-u syslog" and change it to: SYSLOGD="-m 0 -u syslog" and restart syslogd using: /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart From dsterken at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 16:39:29 2006 From: dsterken at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:39:29 -0700 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: You all brought up great points! The main reason I want "su" vs. "sudo" is for security. Admittedly, I do not have a deep understanding of how sudo works but I came from a FreeBSD environment and have only just started using Ubuntu recently. While a lot of things are different to me, I do not understand the need to give applications in x, access to sudo. I feel that if I want to run a series of tools that require extra privileges, it is simple enough to su to root and be done with it. I would however, love to hear how the security of sudo is coming along, perhaps my concerns seem silly to you guys. Thanks again for all your replies :-) ~keep on hackin On 10/6/06, Daniel Pittman wrote: > > Dave writes: > > > I would like to be able to disable the SUDO command and enable SU but > > I can't find the conf files for it, would someone be so kind as to > > point me in the right direction? > > Enable use of su(1) is reasonable, but Ubuntu may not work as well as > you would hope if you disable sudo(8) -- not least of which because it > is used internally to obtain root access with a number of the GUI > administrative tools. > > To enable su(1) to work simply set a password for your root user. You > can then use that password to log in as root no matter what mechanism, > including su. > > > Now, the real question here is *why* you want to do this? Obviously you > have some reason for wanting to replace sudo with su, and if you share > it with us there may turn out to be a better way to address your > problem. > > Regards, > Daniel > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Dave Sterken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Fri Oct 6 17:21:25 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:21:25 -0400 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: References: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <45269095.9010502@optonline.net> Dave wrote: > You all brought up great points! The main reason I want "su" vs. > "sudo" is for security. Admittedly, I do not have a deep understanding > of how sudo works but I came from a FreeBSD environment and have only > just started using Ubuntu recently. While a lot of things are > different to me, I do not understand the need to give applications in > x, access to sudo. I feel that if I want to run a series of tools that > require extra privileges, it is simple enough to su to root and be > done with it. I would however, love to hear how the security of sudo > is coming along, perhaps my concerns seem silly to you guys. I have just recently come to Kubuntu from Fedora, myself, and am used to using SU, and a bit unclear as the supposed advantages of sudo, as well. So, it´s not a silly question at all. I´m following this thread with great interest. It really seems to me that when my user account password is what I use for sudo, that it would be less secure. So, I find it all a bit confusing... tony > > Thanks again for all your replies :-) > ~keep on hackin > > On 10/6/06, *Daniel Pittman* > wrote: > > Dave > writes: > > > I would like to be able to disable the SUDO command and enable > SU but > > I can't find the conf files for it, would someone be so kind as to > > point me in the right direction? > > Enable use of su(1) is reasonable, but Ubuntu may not work as well as > you would hope if you disable sudo(8) -- not least of which because it > is used internally to obtain root access with a number of the GUI > administrative tools. > > To enable su(1) to work simply set a password for your root user. You > can then use that password to log in as root no matter what mechanism, > including su. > > > Now, the real question here is *why* you want to do > this? Obviously you > have some reason for wanting to replace sudo with su, and if you share > it with us there may turn out to be a better way to address your > problem. > > Regards, > Daniel > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and > secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: > contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Dave Sterken -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 6 17:25:03 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:25:03 -0300 Subject: cron.daily questions References: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> <200610052031.58755.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <45266CF0.1050005@gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans wrote: > Rob Blomquist said the following at 10/05/2006 09:31 PM : > >> For more on this, you can read the manpage for cron or crontab. Or go to >> one of the 86 million pages that show how to properly code cron commands. >> I always put the code in a top line of each crontab, so I don't need to >> see it every time I want to edit a crontab. > > No no no. I know how to use cron :-) I just want to know how cron decides > that it's time to run the files in cron.daily. I can't find that info > anywhere I've looked. Which obviously means that I haven't looked in the > right place or come up with the right google search :-) > Rob was right, but pretty obscure. Here's my /etc/crontab. Clearer? derek at othello:~$ cat /etc/crontab # This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs do. SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin # m h dom mon dow user command 17 * * * * root run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || \ run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ... - >>> 2. How do I find the output from the jobs that are run in cron.daily? >> Read up on cron, either in the man pages or on the web. If you have a >> functioning smtp server, cron can send an email every time it runs a job >> with the output from that job. >> > > Yes, I know how to set up a cron job myself and how to put the uotput > somewhere (including e-mailing it to myself). What I don't know is where > cron puts the output in the absence of me doing anything. Now you're just not paying attention. In the absence of you doing anything, cron doesn't put it anywhere. You MUST set up an smtp server if you want output, and if you have one you don't actually need to do anything - it will be mailed to root (though root may not be capable of receiving mail). -- derek From claydoh at claydoh.com Fri Oct 6 18:08:37 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:08:37 -0400 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: References: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200610061408.37871.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Friday 06 October 2006 12:39 pm, Dave wrote: > You all brought up great points! The main reason I want "su" vs. "sudo" is > for security. Admittedly, I do not have a deep understanding of how sudo > works but I came from a FreeBSD environment and have only just started > using Ubuntu recently. While a lot of things are different to me, I do not > understand the need to give applications in x, access to sudo. I feel that > if I want to run a series of tools that require extra privileges, it is > simple enough to su to root and be done with it. I would however, love to > hear how the security of sudo is coming along, perhaps my concerns seem > silly to you guys. > > Thanks again for all your replies :-) > ~keep on hackin ahh, the seemingly neverending sudo debate :) This wiki page has some more information about sudo/root: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 6 17:31:50 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:31:50 -0300 Subject: .xsession-errors file and KDE debugging output References: <200610032120.08570.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <200610061400.10766.oyvinst@ifi.uio.no> <200610061553.06040.oyvinst@ifi.uio.no> Message-ID: <6hgiv3-nh2.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Øyvind Stegard wrote: > On Friday 06 October 2006 14:58, Derek Broughton wrote: >> It would >> be nice if most programs could have that output suppressed with a switch, >> but it's Unix-traditional to just redirect stderr (eg: kate 2>/dev/null). > Of course, I know this, but that's cumbersome to type just for all KDE > apps. There is a nice gcc switch called '-DNDEBUG' that can be used when > compiling KDE :). I do realize that bug-reports might be of better quality > when the debug output is available. Indeed. I would say it would be a very bad thing to suppress all this output to the extent that a user would be unable to get it without recompiling the app. I very much expect (and hope) that it will never happen. > .xsession-errors is not the biggst of issues, but having to silence KDE > apps' stderr from the terminal is. I guess I'll end up rebuilding all the > packages (w/o debugging) myself. It's rather self-defeating to run all your KDE apps from the terminal. If you run everything from a terminal, do you really need a desktop environment? The odd time I do it, it's usually because I want to see that output. One or two apps (kate & kompare in particular) I do run that way, frequently, but for just a couple of apps, it's easier to just create an alias to a command that diverts the output. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 6 17:38:11 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:38:11 -0300 Subject: Edgy's new startup scripts References: <200610060752.20508.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3tgiv3-nh2.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > I have read that Edgy uses a different style of startup scripting, more > event based. I haven't used it, so I'm not familiar with how wonderful it > really is. It _can_ (upstart isn't installed by default); I have; and it is :-) > My question is are we now going to have to learn a new > non-standardized startup method for every distro we may want to use? If it's as good as it seems, everybody will be using upstart :-) (well maybe not everybody). > I understand this method may be far superior to sysvinit style scripting, > However, I'm afraid that if we have 100 distros all using different forms > of startup scripting we'll wind up with a very unpopular OS from an app > development perspective. I expect it will always have the sysvinit compatibility mode (at least until everyone drops sysvinit. Personally, if I have the choice of starting an app from /etc/init.d/ or event based, I'm going to choose event-based every time. None of this stupid alphabetic ordering - Tomcat will start when Apache is _up_. > I have also not read anything about this being > LSB certified Ho hum... Even if LSB was desirable, it's way too early for that. Nothing in Edgy, or even in the next release of Ubuntu, will require you to use upstart. > Also, were would one find a good set of "howtos" on doing any > customization of this new style? I don't think it's that far yet... -- derek From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 6 20:21:52 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:21:52 -0700 Subject: xorg.conf vs KDE reported resolution. Message-ID: <1385024.UCrYgk4eQZ@angrykeyboarder.com> I've had this problem in the past with Dapper but was able to somehow fix. it I don't seem to be having the same luck in Edgy. When I set up xserver-xorg (i.e. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) I specifically tell it to only use 1280x1024 resolution @ 60Hz. However after restarting X or rebooting completely KDE reports my resolution at 75Hz and doesn't give me an option to switch to 60Hz. My LCD TFT Display has an optimal resolution of 1280x1024 @ 60Hz. That's where I'd like it. It does make a significant difference, especially when it comes to the readability of text. As of this writing the monitor is reporting an H Frequency of 79KHz and a V Frequency of 75 Hz ( know these translate somehow to the 60/75Hz but I don't know the "formula"). My xorg.conf file shows: HorizSync 30-65 VertRefresh 50-75 I don't really understand those numbers, but nevertheless KDE reports my resolution at 75Hz and doesn't give me an option to switch to the 60Hz setting that i specified when running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg") Any ideas? Thanks. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 6 20:29:00 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:29:00 -0700 Subject: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper References: <452287CA.4080102@upf.edu> <4522AFA9.9000005@upf.edu> Message-ID: <4694995.eQpjqUZlFm@angrykeyboarder.com> On Tuesday 03 October 2006 11:44 am, Eduard (eduard.bonet at upf.edu) spake thusly: > Thilo Six wrote: >> Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 17:54: >> >> Taken from /boot/grub/menu.lst: >> <--------------------------------------------------- >> # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8) >> # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8), >> # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub >> # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/. >> ---------------------------------------------------> >> >> HTH Thilo > > Ok, thanks, but in my ignorance i am wondering whether i will have > problems when upgrading the kernel of my second ubuntu install (dapper > in my case). I imagine i will have two menu.lst files, the current one > for edgy and the new one for dapper, isn't it? Will entail this any > problem once i update my dapper kernel? I'm not sure how it works, but I have two different Linux distributions installed and when either has a kernel update the single menu.lst file in my Ubuntu /boot/grub directory is properly updated. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 6 20:33:03 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:33:03 -0700 Subject: xorg.conf vs KDE reported resolution. References: <1385024.UCrYgk4eQZ@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <5438244.HhcVGDsdl7@angrykeyboarder.com> OOPS. I forgot to include this in the original post. Here are my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files (in case they may help to diagnose my problem). http://angrykeyboarder.com/linux/ubuntu/xorg.conf http://angrykeyboarder.com/linux/ubuntu/xorg.0.log -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From joantur at cancullet.org Fri Oct 6 20:41:03 2006 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 22:41:03 +0200 Subject: Laptop screen power off Message-ID: <200610062241.05646.joantur@cancullet.org> Hallo! I've got Kubuntu 6.06.1 on my LG LW20. Almost everything seems fine here but I have a problem with the lcd screen power off delay. By default it was set to power off in 30'; I changed that value to 2', but after reboot it returns back to its original value, 30'. How can I solve this problem? Any hints? 8-? TIA ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 22:06:14 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 16:06:14 -0600 Subject: cron.daily questions In-Reply-To: References: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> <200610052031.58755.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <45266CF0.1050005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4526D356.4060805@gmail.com> Derek Broughton said the following at 10/06/2006 11:25 AM : > D. R. Evans wrote: > >> Rob Blomquist said the following at 10/05/2006 09:31 PM : >> >>> For more on this, you can read the manpage for cron or crontab. Or go to >>> one of the 86 million pages that show how to properly code cron commands. >>> I always put the code in a top line of each crontab, so I don't need to >>> see it every time I want to edit a crontab. >> No no no. I know how to use cron :-) I just want to know how cron decides >> that it's time to run the files in cron.daily. I can't find that info >> anywhere I've looked. Which obviously means that I haven't looked in the >> right place or come up with the right google search :-) >> > Rob was right, but pretty obscure. Here's my /etc/crontab. Clearer? > OOoohhh!! /etc/crontab, not the crontabs for individual users. Right; got it; so the daily stuff runs at 6:25am. > derek at othello:~$ cat /etc/crontab > # This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs do. > SHELL=/bin/sh > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > # m h dom mon dow user command > 17 * * * * root run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly > 25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || \ > run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily > ... > - >>>> 2. How do I find the output from the jobs that are run in cron.daily? >>> Read up on cron, either in the man pages or on the web. If you have a >>> functioning smtp server, cron can send an email every time it runs a job >>> with the output from that job. >>> >> Yes, I know how to set up a cron job myself and how to put the uotput >> somewhere (including e-mailing it to myself). What I don't know is where >> cron puts the output in the absence of me doing anything. > > Now you're just not paying attention. In the absence of you doing anything, > cron doesn't put it anywhere. You MUST set up an smtp server if you want > output, and if you have one you don't actually need to do anything - it > will be mailed to root (though root may not be capable of receiving mail). I beg to differ: I am paying attention :-) I have an SMTP server. I have personal (and root) cron jobs that happily produce output. The piece of information I was missing is that I am not missing anything :-) In other words, what I didn't know was that output from cron.daily jobs doesn't go anywhere into a log; if there is any output, it gets mailed to root. And the fact that I'm not seeing any such mail means that tmpreaper isn't producing any output. (This is different behaviour from other linuces I have used; Mandriva, for example, puts cron.daily output in /var/log/messages. One of the things that I have found unsettling with Kubuntu is the sparseness of /var/log/messages -- not that it's a problem; it's just different from what I'm used to.) So now I know that there isn't some vital piece of information to help me debug why tmpreaper doesn't seem to be doing anything being sent to a file somewhere, I can proceed to debug tmpreaper the way I would have done in the first place if I had known this: simply by running it manually with lots of debugging. (Except that I see that the tmpreaper file in cron.daily does more than simply run tmpreaper :-( ) Anyway, now that I know I'm not missing some important piece of information in a file somewhere, I can figure out what's going on. Thanks very much. From buzzy01 at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 22:10:40 2006 From: buzzy01 at gmail.com (Buzzy!) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 00:10:40 +0200 Subject: how do i move /home to a partition? Message-ID: can i do that?? i have only about 2 Gb free on disk...and i have 2 partitions: swap + / pls help me -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sat Oct 7 00:23:35 2006 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 17:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kubuntu-Windows network In-Reply-To: <452589B3.1080403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061007002335.26138.qmail@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is across a LAN. Simple 4 computers. 2 wireless (windows) and 2 ethernet. Actiontec DSL modem and separate ethernet hub. --- "D. R. Evans" wrote: > Earl Violet said the following at 10/05/2006 09:05 AM : > > Yesterday morning I moved a document from my Kubuntu machine to a > > shared folder on a computer running Win2k. Yesterday afternoon I > > tried to move another document, I got a message "timeout on > server." > > Is this because I use dynamic IP addresses and not static ones? > > > > Is this across a LAN or across a VPN? > > I have not used dynamic IP addresses for years, so I don't know > whether > that may indeed have something to do with your problem, but I do > know that > I used to see this kind of behaviour sporadically when moving large > files > across a VPN until I started to use the IPTOS_THROUGHPUT socket > option when > mounting the remote filesystem. > > Doc > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sat Oct 7 00:47:38 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:47:38 -0700 Subject: SU & SUDO References: <20061006083519.GA20789@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <3121027.nHUSWiZYfm@angrykeyboarder.com> On Friday 06 October 2006 01:35 am, bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) spake thusly: > > Ok, but what then with kde stuff? I heard, that some parts of kde are > hacked by kubuntu devs - to use sudo instead of su. > > Simply passwd root doesn't break this functionality? Enabling a root password and thereby allowing you to use "su" instead of "sudo" doesn't disable sudo, it just gives you both options. kdesu and has been patched to use sudo instead of su. But if you'd rather (for consistency sake) use your root password in kdesu you can alter your sudoers file directing sudo to ask for the root password instead of the user password. Open a Terminal and type sudo visudo Scroll down to the line that reads Defaults !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn Append "rootpw" to the end of the line. So it now looks like this: Defaults !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn,rootpw Exit and you're done. Once you've done that, kdesu will seemingly function like you'd like it to. I know, I've done all this myself. However as others have pointed out, you really should give sudo more time. I've been a Linux user since 1998 and have never used sudo till I discovered Ubuntu 18 months ago. I got used to it and now much prefer it to su. I still like having a root password, it does come in handy at times for certain things, hence my enabling it. And since I use multiple operating systems I'd like to not have to remember when and when not to use the root/admin password. From time to time I use a certain OS that comes from the state of Washington. It only gives you the root/admin password option. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From daniel at rimspace.net Sat Oct 7 03:06:15 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 13:06:15 +1000 Subject: SU & SUDO References: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <87sli025aw.fsf@rimspace.net> Dave writes: G'day Dave. > You all brought up great points! The main reason I want "su" > vs. "sudo" is for security. Admittedly, I do not have a deep > understanding of how sudo works but I came from a FreeBSD environment > and have only just started using Ubuntu recently. OK. First, a hint from my years of experience with security: you will generally get better security sticking with the tools the developers chose than adding additional tools -- unless you understand exactly what you are trading off in each direction. > While a lot of things are different to me, I do not understand the > need to give applications in x, access to sudo. None of the applications, X or otherwise, have access to sudo. *Users*, and specifically users in the 'admin' group (which is equivalent in many ways to the 'wheel' group from *BSD) have access to sudo. Those users can use sudo to run software with elevated privileges; the software can take advantage of that, like it can take advantage of su, but it is a property of the *user* not the application. > I feel that if I want to run a series of tools that require extra > privileges, it is simple enough to su to root and be done with it. Well, in the simplest case that will not work for GUI tools as they will lose a number of essential elements of X security. > I would however, love to hear how the security of sudo is coming > along, perhaps my concerns seem silly to you guys. Being concerned about security is reasonable. I still don't understand exactly what your concern about sudo is though. Can you restate it in a short question or something? Anyway, the essential trade-off with sudo vs su (and a root password) is documented in the links others shot you in the thread, but comes down to: With traditional su, and a root password, that password is a well known point to attack. By locking the root account Ubuntu gains security, because you can no longer gain access as root regardless of how well you guess. The cost of that is that sudo makes the password for an account in the 'admin' group equivalent to the root password. If you have multiple members of 'admin' then you have multiple passwords equivalent to root. So, the trade off in security terms is that Ubuntu gains security by having the root account locked -- no attack direct to root can succeed. There is one account, by default, which is the equivalent of root. This is an account that is regularly used, because it is a normal user account, so the password is more likely to be changed (and remembered) than a root account that is almost never used.[1] Oh, and if you are concerned because you don't know the security history of sudo, vs the core su command, feel comforted: it has a good security record, and is regularly audited and updated to address new concerns as they develop. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Obviously, this isn't true for everyone; some of us need root access regularly. Those folks are likely to be the same ones who would have a secure root password, etc, etc. -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From dsterken at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 03:41:32 2006 From: dsterken at gmail.com (Dave) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 20:41:32 -0700 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: <87sli025aw.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> <87sli025aw.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: Thank you for the detailed response Daniel. :) You might have miss-understood my intent, which is to disallow apps in X access to root, not to switch over to root while running root. Root has no place in X! Well, that is just my opinion. I was "trying" to say that I would rather su to root in a console to run the tools I need. That aside, you mentioned several things I was unaware of. I was not comparing it to the wheel group, which is a very useful tool. I agree, the developers obviously chose sudo for a reason or they wouldn't have woven it in. Locking up the Root account is good idea, but it still has a sudo account right, and an admin group? Isn't that like trading 1-fat cow for a group of fat cows? Trading Root's password, for a sudo password that has all the privileges of root at the user level may not gain me any security, in fact, it may make things less convenient but it feels like it gives me more control. However, I will certainly give sudo a chance based on your suggestions (all very wise), I must admit though, I'm still squeamish about it. :-) Thanks again On 10/6/06, Daniel Pittman wrote: > > Dave writes: > > G'day Dave. > > > You all brought up great points! The main reason I want "su" > > vs. "sudo" is for security. Admittedly, I do not have a deep > > understanding of how sudo works but I came from a FreeBSD environment > > and have only just started using Ubuntu recently. > > OK. First, a hint from my years of experience with security: you will > generally get better security sticking with the tools the developers > chose than adding additional tools -- unless you understand exactly what > you are trading off in each direction. > > > While a lot of things are different to me, I do not understand the > > need to give applications in x, access to sudo. > > None of the applications, X or otherwise, have access to sudo. *Users*, > and specifically users in the 'admin' group (which is equivalent in many > ways to the 'wheel' group from *BSD) have access to sudo. > > Those users can use sudo to run software with elevated privileges; the > software can take advantage of that, like it can take advantage of su, > but it is a property of the *user* not the application. > > > I feel that if I want to run a series of tools that require extra > > privileges, it is simple enough to su to root and be done with it. > > Well, in the simplest case that will not work for GUI tools as they will > lose a number of essential elements of X security. > > > I would however, love to hear how the security of sudo is coming > > along, perhaps my concerns seem silly to you guys. > > Being concerned about security is reasonable. I still don't understand > exactly what your concern about sudo is though. Can you restate it in a > short question or something? > > > Anyway, the essential trade-off with sudo vs su (and a root password) is > documented in the links others shot you in the thread, but comes down > to: > > With traditional su, and a root password, that password is a well > known point to attack. > > By locking the root account Ubuntu gains security, because you can no > longer gain access as root regardless of how well you guess. > > > The cost of that is that sudo makes the password for an account in the > 'admin' group equivalent to the root password. > > If you have multiple members of 'admin' then you have multiple > passwords equivalent to root. > > > So, the trade off in security terms is that Ubuntu gains security by > having the root account locked -- no attack direct to root can succeed. > > There is one account, by default, which is the equivalent of root. > > This is an account that is regularly used, because it is a normal user > account, so the password is more likely to be changed (and remembered) > than a root account that is almost never used.[1] > > > Oh, and if you are concerned because you don't know the security history > of sudo, vs the core su command, feel comforted: it has a good security > record, and is regularly audited and updated to address new concerns as > they develop. > > Regards, > Daniel > > Footnotes: > [1] Obviously, this isn't true for everyone; some of us need root > access regularly. Those folks are likely to be the same ones who > would have a secure root password, etc, etc. > > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Dave Sterken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Its one of those things you wonder why someone didn't think of it some time ago, know what I mean? > > > My question is are we now going to have to learn a new > > non-standardized startup method for every distro we may want to use? > > If it's as good as it seems, everybody will be using upstart :-) (well > maybe not everybody). Well, that would be good. However, I doubt Debian will use it. Because it started in Ubuntu, and the debian folks seem to hate Ubuntu because its stole their limelight. > > > I understand this method may be far superior to sysvinit style scripting, > > However, I'm afraid that if we have 100 distros all using different forms > > of startup scripting we'll wind up with a very unpopular OS from an app > > development perspective. > > I expect it will always have the sysvinit compatibility mode (at least > until everyone drops sysvinit. Personally, if I have the choice of > starting an app from /etc/init.d/ or event based, I'm going to choose > event-based every time. None of this stupid alphabetic ordering - Tomcat > will start when Apache is _up_. I'm with you, I would just rather not cause more problems than its worth, and I was curious as to whether anyone else had thought of this. Apparently according to the website, someone has. > Ho hum... Even if LSB was desirable, it's way too early for that. Nothing > in Edgy, or even in the next release of Ubuntu, will require you to use > upstart. Well, I really don't know what LSB buys you other than an app developer's ability to write the app once and it work on all distros. Which I would think would be something worth having. But, since its fully compatible with sysvinit scripting its got that covered. > > Also, were would one find a good set of "howtos" on doing any > > customization of this new style? > > I don't think it's that far yet... Well, actually it is. From what I read on the site its going to get to where it will replace at, cron, inetd, and a couple of other daemons. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 04:27:04 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 23:27:04 -0500 Subject: how do i move /home to a partition? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610062327.04251.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Friday 06 October 2006 5:10 pm, Buzzy! wrote: > can i do that?? > i have only about 2 Gb free on disk...and i have 2 partitions: swap + / > pls help me This may not be the best way as I'm not a wiz at this stuff but . . . . 1. install a new hard drive (or new partition if you have the space). (if you haven't set a password for root you'll need to put "sudo" in front of any examples I'll give). 2. setup the partition on the drive (using fdisk or gparted) and format it with a filesystem ( like reiser or ext3) 3. Create a temporary spot to mount the new drive (like so: mkdir /mnt/hometmp ) 3. mount the new drive / partition in a temporary home. For example: mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hometmp (If you used ext3 to format the second drive on the first IDE channel with 1 partition, or the first partition) 4. copy all the data over and protect permissions. (for example: cp -dpR /home/* /mnt/home/ ). Of course, you'll need to make sure you are not logged in via KDE while doing this because you'll have files open during the copy, which could make them fail. I would suggest logging out of KDE or Gnome altogether and switching to say, terminal 2 (Ctrl+Alt+F2) and logging in to do this. 5. compare the two directories to make sure everything was copied (however you like). 6. Once the compare is to your liking, you can optionally delete everything under /home and / or just unmount /dev/hdb1 from /mnt/hometmp. (umount /mnt/hometmp) and mount the new drive manually at first to its new home (mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 /home). 7. if everything looks like you expected and you like what you see, you can edit the /etc/fstab so this happens everytime you boot. here's an example line: /dev/hdb1 /home ext3 defaults 0 1 8. After you have done all that, I would recommend if you didn't delete everything from the old /home you go back and do it now. MAKE DARN SURE you have unmounted the NEW drive first so you don't accidentally wind up wiping both copies away. Then after the delete is finished remount the new drive, or reboot to test your fstab entries, Trust me, correcting these instructions would not offend anyone! :-D. I know there are some particulars that are left out. Simply because I wasn't sure, and I didn't want to intentionally steer you wrong. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 10:33:46 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 12:33:46 +0200 Subject: Accessing Ubuntu Gnome menus in KDE Message-ID: <880dece00610070333m48069b20rf872fef2e40938d0@mail.gmail.com> I find that most of the system administration tools appear only in the Gnome menus, not in the KDE menus. And Kcontrol does not contain all the tools that the Gnome menu does (user administration, for instance). However, I very much dislike Gnome and continue to use KDE. How can I access the Gnome menus in KDE? Is the menu actually a Gnome program, that I can run in KDE? If this is not possible, then I'd like to know the command line name of the programs in the Gnome menus so that I can start them on the CLI. How can I get this information, without checking them one-by-one in Gnome? Thank you. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sat Oct 7 10:47:27 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 06:47:27 -0400 Subject: Accessing Ubuntu Gnome menus in KDE In-Reply-To: <880dece00610070333m48069b20rf872fef2e40938d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610070333m48069b20rf872fef2e40938d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452785BF.5080506@optonline.net> Dotan Cohen wrote: >I find that most of the system administration tools appear only in the >Gnome menus, not in the KDE menus. And Kcontrol does not contain all >the tools that the Gnome menu does (user administration, for >instance). > I see both ¨KUser¨ and ¨Users & Groups¨ in the KMenu>System for user mgmt. What else are you looking for? tony >However, I very much dislike Gnome and continue to use KDE. >How can I access the Gnome menus in KDE? Is the menu actually a Gnome >program, that I can run in KDE? > >If this is not possible, then I'd like to know the command line name >of the programs in the Gnome menus so that I can start them on the >CLI. How can I get this information, without checking them one-by-one >in Gnome? > >Thank you. > >Dotan Cohen >http://what-is-what.com > > > -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 11:33:15 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 13:33:15 +0200 Subject: Accessing Ubuntu Gnome menus in KDE In-Reply-To: <452785BF.5080506@optonline.net> References: <880dece00610070333m48069b20rf872fef2e40938d0@mail.gmail.com> <452785BF.5080506@optonline.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610070433s143dc9f7t9f805902a8297f8@mail.gmail.com> On 07/10/06, anthony baldwin wrote: > I see both ¨KUser¨ and ¨Users & Groups¨ in the KMenu>System for user mgmt. > What else are you looking for? Yes, they are there. However, I see many differences between users that were added with these tools, and users added with the Gnome tool. For instance, the CLI has different defaults, and GUI programs cannot be launched from the CLI if I su into one of these users. When I add users from the Gnome tools, then the CLI has my familiar defaults, and I can launch GUI programs. There are other system tools as well that I'd like to access. But in any case, I'd like to know how to access the Gnome menus (or at least the programs in them). Thank you. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Oct 7 14:11:59 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:11:59 +0200 Subject: setting up a lan only ftp server? Message-ID: <4527B5AF.3060207@rmk.co.il> Up until now I have been using nfs to connect my laptop (and other computers on our home lan) to my main box - but it has started to become slow to connect. Anyway, I would like to be able to set up an ftp server on my main box so that all the computer on our home lan - AND only on our home lan - can connect to it. Our home lan is behind an old computer running Coyote Linux (gateway, router and firewall). What is the best way to go about it? TIA. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 14:11:53 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 16:11:53 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list Message-ID: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> I had Ubuntu installed, and then installed the KDE desktop, instead of just installing Kubuntu. When I run "apt-get update" I get a lot of errors: dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get update Get:1 http://kubuntu.org dapper Release.gpg [191B] Hit http://kubuntu.org dapper Release Ign http://theli.free.fr ./ Release.gpg Err http://kubuntu.org dapper Release Get:2 http://kubuntu.org dapper Release [2327B] Ign http://kubuntu.org dapper Release Hit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] Get:4 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://theli.free.fr ./ Release Get:6 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B] Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release Ign http://theli.free.fr ./ Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release Err http://theli.free.fr ./ Packages 404 Not Found Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources Get:8 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release.gpg Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages [14B] Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources [14B] Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages Get:11 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages [14B] Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources Get:12 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources [14B] Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages Get:13 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages [14B] 99% [Waiting for headers] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com] [Waiting for head bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. bzip2: Resource temporarily unavailable Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted. You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files. You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover data from undamaged sections of corrupted files. Err http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/il.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di sts_dapper-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or dir ectory) Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources Get:14 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources [14B] Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Packages Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release.gpg Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Sources Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Sources Get:15 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release Get:16 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages Get:17 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages Ign http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg Get:18 http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release [9421B] Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/free Packages Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Packages Get:19 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/free Sources Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources Get:20 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B] Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources Get:21 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources Get:22 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Sources Get:23 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' Get:24 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' Get:25 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' Err ftp://ftp.ekhis.org staging Release.gpg Could not connect to ftp.ekhis.org:21 (216.8.177.28), connection timed out 99% [Waiting for headers] Err http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable Release.gpg Connection failed [IP: 164.15.125.10 80] 99% [Waiting for headers] Ign http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable Release 99% [Waiting for headers] At this point it hangs for a few minutes. Should I post my /etc/sources.list file for advice? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/source.php From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Oct 7 14:46:20 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:46:20 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> Dotan Cohen wrote: > I had Ubuntu installed, and then installed the KDE desktop, instead of > just installing Kubuntu. When I run "apt-get update" I get a lot of > errors: > > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get update > Get:1 http://kubuntu.org dapper Release.gpg [191B] > Hit http://kubuntu.org dapper Release > Ign http://theli.free.fr ./ Release.gpg > Err http://kubuntu.org dapper Release > > Get:2 http://kubuntu.org dapper Release [2327B] > Ign http://kubuntu.org dapper Release > Hit http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages > Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] > Get:4 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] > Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://theli.free.fr ./ Release > Get:6 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] > Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B] > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release > Ign http://theli.free.fr ./ Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release > Err http://theli.free.fr ./ Packages > 404 Not Found > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources > Get:8 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release.gpg > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages > Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages [14B] > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources > Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources [14B] > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages > Get:11 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages [14B] > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources > Get:12 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources [14B] > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages > Get:13 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages [14B] > 99% [Waiting for headers] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com] [Waiting for head > bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; > perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. > bzip2: Resource temporarily unavailable > Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) > > It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted. > You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files. > > You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover > data from undamaged sections of corrupted files. > > Err http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages > Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/il.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di > sts_dapper-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or dir > ectory) > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources > Get:14 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources [14B] > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Packages > Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release.gpg > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources > Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Sources > Hit http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Sources > Get:15 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release > Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper Release > Get:16 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages > Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages > Get:17 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages > Ign http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg > Get:18 http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release [9421B] > Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/free Packages > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Packages > Get:19 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/free Sources > Hit http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Sources > Get:20 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B] > Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources > Get:21 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages > Ign ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources > Get:22 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources > Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Packages > Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Sources > Get:23 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages > Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Packages > Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' > Get:24 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources > Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/free Sources > Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' > Get:25 ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources > Err ftp://ftp.free.fr dapper/non-free Sources > Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' > Err ftp://ftp.ekhis.org staging Release.gpg > Could not connect to ftp.ekhis.org:21 (216.8.177.28), connection timed out > 99% [Waiting for headers] > Err http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable Release.gpg > Connection failed [IP: 164.15.125.10 80] > 99% [Waiting for headers] > Ign http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable Release > 99% [Waiting for headers] > > At this point it hangs for a few minutes. Should I post my > /etc/sources.list file for advice? Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > http://essentialinux.com/source.php > Shalom Dotan - Hag Succot Sameach! Here is my sources.list: # deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release amd64 (20060531)]/ dapper main restricted ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages) #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse ## The source packages (only needed to recompile existing packages) #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse ## KDE 3.5.4 deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main ##KOffice 1.5.2 deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice-152 dapper main (watch the line wraps from the email client!) Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 15:06:27 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 17:06:27 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <880dece00610070806v3eb0ab0dw1a740df37a1094c7@mail.gmail.com> On 07/10/06, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Shalom Dotan - Hag Succot Sameach! !חג שמח Although I could easily just replace my sources.list, I'd actually rather know if I should delete or change some entries. I do believe that I have multiple entries, one on a local mirror the 'regular' mirror. I figured that posting the output would reveal any of those problems. Here is my sources.list: deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the distribution. deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' repository. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security team. deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. # deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse # deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe # Automatically generated sources.list # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic # If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file # and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number) # gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add - # Ubuntu supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5) deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted # Ubuntu supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5) deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted # Ubuntu community supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5) deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse # Ubuntu community supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5) deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse ##Official## deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse ###PLF### deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/dapper/ ./ ###KDE### deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main ###Source### deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free deb-src ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free # GTK-Qt Theme Engine deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ staging main # Apollon deb http://apt.cerkinfo.be/ unstable main contrib deb-src http://apt.cerkinfo.be/ unstable main contrib Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com From rlp1938 at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 15:37:17 2006 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 22:37:17 +0700 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: References: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> <87sli025aw.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340610070837q2f04cb3fr52c4184c0a6512ed@mail.gmail.com> On 10/7/06, Dave wrote: > > That aside, you mentioned several things I was unaware of. I was not > comparing it to the wheel group, which is a very useful tool. I agree, the > developers obviously chose sudo for a reason or they wouldn't have woven it > in. Locking up the Root account is good idea, but it still has a sudo > account right, and an admin group? Isn't that like trading 1-fat cow for a > group of fat cows? Trading Root's password, for a sudo password that has all > the privileges of root at the user level may not gain me any security, in > fact, it may make things less convenient but it feels like it gives me more > control. However, I will certainly give sudo a chance based on your > suggestions (all very wise), I must admit though, I'm still squeamish about > it. :-) I think the main consequence of this needs to be 2 users accounts. 1 with sudo privilege and the other 1 without to access the internet. Conventional wisdom has been never to go on line as root, I should think that that the same rule should apply here too. Also, do be sure to use decent passwords etc, 10 chars minimum or better yet a very long passphrase. Bob > > Thanks again > > On 10/6/06, Daniel Pittman wrote: > > Dave writes: > > > > G'day Dave. > > > > > You all brought up great points! The main reason I want "su" > > > vs. "sudo" is for security. Admittedly, I do not have a deep > > > understanding of how sudo works but I came from a FreeBSD environment > > > and have only just started using Ubuntu recently. > > > > OK. First, a hint from my years of experience with security: you will > > generally get better security sticking with the tools the developers > > chose than adding additional tools -- unless you understand exactly what > > you are trading off in each direction. > > > > > While a lot of things are different to me, I do not understand the > > > need to give applications in x, access to sudo. > > > > None of the applications, X or otherwise, have access to sudo. *Users*, > > and specifically users in the 'admin' group (which is equivalent in many > > ways to the 'wheel' group from *BSD) have access to sudo. > > > > Those users can use sudo to run software with elevated privileges; the > > software can take advantage of that, like it can take advantage of su, > > but it is a property of the *user* not the application. > > > > > I feel that if I want to run a series of tools that require extra > > > privileges, it is simple enough to su to root and be done with it. > > > > Well, in the simplest case that will not work for GUI tools as they will > > lose a number of essential elements of X security. > > > > > I would however, love to hear how the security of sudo is coming > > > along, perhaps my concerns seem silly to you guys. > > > > Being concerned about security is reasonable. I still don't understand > > exactly what your concern about sudo is though. Can you restate it in a > > short question or something? > > > > > > Anyway, the essential trade-off with sudo vs su (and a root password) is > > documented in the links others shot you in the thread, but comes down > > to: > > > > With traditional su, and a root password, that password is a well > > known point to attack. > > > > By locking the root account Ubuntu gains security, because you can no > > longer gain access as root regardless of how well you guess. > > > > > > The cost of that is that sudo makes the password for an account in the > > 'admin' group equivalent to the root password. > > > > If you have multiple members of 'admin' then you have multiple > > passwords equivalent to root. > > > > > > So, the trade off in security terms is that Ubuntu gains security by > > having the root account locked -- no attack direct to root can succeed. > > > > There is one account, by default, which is the equivalent of root. > > > > This is an account that is regularly used, because it is a normal user > > account, so the password is more likely to be changed (and remembered) > > than a root account that is almost never used.[1] > > > > > > Oh, and if you are concerned because you don't know the security history > > of sudo, vs the core su command, feel comforted: it has a good security > > record, and is regularly audited and updated to address new concerns as > > they develop. > > > > Regards, > > Daniel > > > > Footnotes: > > [1] Obviously, this isn't true for everyone; some of us need root > > access regularly. Those folks are likely to be the same ones who > > would have a secure root password, etc, etc. > > > > -- > > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: > contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > Dave Sterken > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- On any list, if X is the bandwidth wasted on off-topic posts, NX is the bandwidth wasted on discussing the evils of off-topic posts where 5 <= N <= 10. From frode at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 7 16:33:40 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B8ving?=) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:33:40 +0200 Subject: SU & SUDO In-Reply-To: <3121027.nHUSWiZYfm@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <20061006083519.GA20789@jabberpl.org> <3121027.nHUSWiZYfm@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <200610071833.41303.frode@ubuntu.com> Lørdag 07 oktober 2006 02:47, skrev Scott: > On Friday 06 October 2006 01:35 am, bluszcz at jabberpl.org [cut] > Enabling a root password and thereby allowing you to use "su" instead > of "sudo" doesn't disable sudo, it just gives you both options. > > kdesu and has been patched to use sudo instead of su. But if you'd > rather (for consistency sake) use your root password in kdesu you can > alter your sudoers file directing sudo to ask for the root password > instead of the user password. [cut] Instead of hacking sudo you can make a file ~/.kde/share/config/kdesurc with the contents: [super-user-command] super-user-command=su That would make kdesu use su instead of sudo. To make this configuration global: 'sudo cp ~/.kde/share/config/kdesurc \ /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/' NOTE: I have not tested this in edgy. Used to work in dapper, not tested lately. - Frode From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Oct 7 17:22:35 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:22:35 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: <880dece00610070806v3eb0ab0dw1a740df37a1094c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> <880dece00610070806v3eb0ab0dw1a740df37a1094c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen wrote the following on 07.10.2006 17:06: > On 07/10/06, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Shalom Dotan - Hag Succot Sameach! > > !חג שמח > > Although I could easily just replace my sources.list, I'd actually > rather know if I should delete or change some entries. I do believe > that I have multiple entries, one on a local mirror the 'regular' > mirror. I figured that posting the output would reveal any of those > problems. Here is my sources.list: > > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > > ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the distribution. > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the > 'universe' repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu > ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to > ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in > ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu > security team. > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe > deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the > 'backports' repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as > ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes > ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. > ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review > ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. > # deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main > restricted universe multiverse > # deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main > restricted universe multiverse > > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe > > > # Automatically generated sources.list > # http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic > # If you get errors about missing keys, lookup the key in this file > # and run these commands (replace KEY with the key number) > # gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY > # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add - > > # Ubuntu supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5) > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > > # Ubuntu supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5) > deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted > deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > > # Ubuntu community supported packages (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5) > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse > > # Ubuntu community supported packages (sources, GPG key: 437D05B5) > deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse > deb-src http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse > > > ##Official## > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted > universe multiverse > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > universe multiverse > > ###PLF### > deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free > deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ dapper > free non-free > deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/dapper/ ./ > > ###KDE### > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main > > ###Source### > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted > universe multiverse > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main > restricted universe multiverse > deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main > restricted universe multiverse > deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free > deb-src ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ > dapper free non-free > > # GTK-Qt Theme Engine > deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ staging main > > # Apollon > deb http://apt.cerkinfo.be/ unstable main contrib > deb-src http://apt.cerkinfo.be/ unstable main contrib > > Dotan Cohen > http://gmail-com.com I have tried your mirror here without problems: <--------------------------------------------------------------------- # aptitude update Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Building tag database... Done Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release.gpg [191B] Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release [30.9kB] Get:3 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B] Get:4 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B] Get:5 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release [34.8kB] Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Packages [74.1kB] Get:7 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release [29.6kB] Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages [6446B] Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main Sources [13.3kB] Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Sources [960B] Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Packages [29.8kB] Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Packages [2789B] Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/universe Sources [3874B] Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/multiverse Sources [520B] Get:15 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages [619kB] Get:16 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages [4571B] Get:17 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources [255kB] Get:18 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Sources [1478B] Get:19 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages [2458kB] Get:20 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages [95.2kB] Get:21 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Sources [975kB] Get:22 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Sources [46.6kB] Get:23 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages [122kB] Get:24 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Packages [14B] Get:25 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources [46.5kB] Get:26 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/restricted Sources [14B] Get:27 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Packages [19.3kB] Get:28 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages [964B] Get:29 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/universe Sources [3129B] Get:30 http://il.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Sources [427B] Fetched 4875kB in 23s (206kB/s) Reading package lists... Done ---------------------------------------------------------------------> One note about your sources.list though. Why do you have three lines in there with the same content? $ grep main sources.list | grepinvert deb-src deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main Really this something i never will understand. Cause it is free doesn´t mean it is meant to be abused. I suggest to read $ man apt_preferences to learn how the sources.list works and to understand how to set it up. bye Thilo From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Oct 7 17:31:12 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 19:31:12 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: Nigel Ridley wrote the following on 07.10.2006 16:46: > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted It isn´t an solution to point every Ubuntu user worldwide to the master mirror, do you think? Even if when http://il.archive.ubuntu.com would have problems (which is not the case - see my other mail) it would be a better idea to point the user to an other close mirror instead. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive Switzerland, Sweden, Spain, Germany any of these mirrors would be better (for all users) the the master mirror IMHO. > (watch the line wraps from the email client!) > > Blessings, > > Nigel bye Thilo From art.alexion at verizon.net Sat Oct 7 17:38:28 2006 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (ARTHUR ALEXION) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 10:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: after breezy->dapper upgrade, can't boot Message-ID: <20061007173828.9164.qmail@web84106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I put this upgrade off for a while; just had a feeling it would go badly. Originally warty from CD. Upgraded via apt-get dist_upgrade to hoary. 6-10 months later, upgraded via apt-get dist_upgrade to breezy. All well but, wanted the newer apps. This time apt-get dist_upgrade was stubborn. Had to manually remove some packages and run apt-get -f install many times, then install "held back" packages with apt-get install held_back_packagename. Then had to manually run apt-get install kubuntu_desktop. Finally looked like all was well. But now won't complete init. System will boot from /dev/hda gets to initializing root file system in graphical boot screen, then falls to char mode with many Segment Faults! and finally complains that /dev/hda2 (root file system partition) does not exist and I get a default prompt with few built in commands. When booting from Kubuntu or Knoppix live CDs everything is OK on hda2. Help, please. -- _____________________________ artAlexion art[dot]alexion[at]verizon[dot]net Sent unsigned from web interface. Confirm source if important. From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Sat Oct 7 18:06:45 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 14:06:45 -0400 Subject: Why does my "Save View Profile..." not work? Message-ID: <200610071406.45564.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Until recently, I would "Save View Profile..." to archive my tabs and their respective websites. Just in the last few days, that option stays grayed out in Konqueror. If anyone has more of a clue about this than myself, please tell me?\. Thanks, Bob From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Oct 7 18:19:10 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 20:19:10 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <4527EF9E.4000605@rmk.co.il> Thilo Six wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote the following on 07.10.2006 16:46: > > > >> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted > > It isn´t an solution to point every Ubuntu user worldwide to the master > mirror, do you think? Thylo, I didn't point him to any server - I just posted a copy of my sources.list. I do however remember having a 'local' server list but am sure that it just was an alias for the master mirror as when I was upgrading it was downloading from the master rather than my 'local' mirror. > Even if when http://il.archive.ubuntu.com would have problems (which is > not the case - see my other mail) it would be a better idea to point the > user to an other close mirror instead. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive > > Switzerland, Sweden, Spain, Germany > > any of these mirrors would be better (for all users) the the master > mirror IMHO. > > > >> (watch the line wraps from the email client!) >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel > > > bye Thilo > > Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From jgomezdans at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 20:48:42 2006 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 22:48:42 +0200 Subject: Breezy->Dapper and hibernate/suspend Message-ID: <91d218430610071348v7f0327d5gf9f26a5eb358bc38@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I upgraded my home server (printers and storage, namely) a couple of days ago. Everything went fine, but for one little glitch: the computer goes into hibernation/suspend (I can't tell which), and hence the server disappears from the network. I would like to disable these powersaving features, but how can I go about that? The server is a headless one, so I can only access it through ssh. Cheers! From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 21:10:48 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 15:10:48 -0600 Subject: Q: replacement for kalbum? In-Reply-To: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> > If you want to simply make HTML galleries from a directory, you could try > using Konqueror. Go to the directory that contains the images you want to > make into a gallery, the in the Tools menu, select Create Image Gallery. You > will be given some options, like what size you want the thumbnails to be. > Brilliant! Thank you very much. From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 7 22:24:39 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 00:24:39 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> <880dece00610070806v3eb0ab0dw1a740df37a1094c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610071524h378a9658vdf690e905e5b4429@mail.gmail.com> On 07/10/06, Thilo Six wrote: > I have tried your mirror here without problems: Thanks, that's good to know. > > One note about your sources.list though. > > Why do you have three lines in there with the same content? > > $ grep main sources.list | grepinvert deb-src > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe > multiverse > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest dapper main Well, that part of the file I never touched. I only modified the end, where I added some sources. So that's the way Ubuntu configured itself at install. Bassa. > Really this something i never will understand. > Cause it is free doesn´t mean it is meant to be abused. That's why I only go to the expensive BSDM clubs. Er, wait a minute, that's a little OT for this list... Like said, no I set it up that way. > I suggest to read > $ man apt_preferences > to learn how the sources.list works and to understand how to set it up. Thanks, going for the man now. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/ http://gmail-com.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Sat Oct 7 23:48:51 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 19:48:51 -0400 Subject: Why does my "Save View Profile..." not work? In-Reply-To: <200610071406.45564.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200610071406.45564.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610071948.52189.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> On Saturday 07 October 2006 14:06, Robert Tilley wrote: > Until recently, I would "Save View Profile..." to archive my tabs and their > respective websites. Just in the last few days, that option stays grayed > out in Konqueror. This problem has been solved. I quit all instances of Konqueror (which in itself caused a crash that's been submitted to bugs.kde.org). After restarting Konqueror, the aforementioned behavior returned to normal. Thanks for the inspiration, Bob -- You are sick, twisted and perverted. I like that in a person. From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Sun Oct 8 03:07:41 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 23:07:41 -0400 Subject: Krusader Kill my System.... Message-ID: <200610072307.41460.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Krusader 1.70.x crashed and lock up my system, in-fact, could not even back up to a external hard drive. nor use Konqueror at all. permission error everywhere.. ( even when un-installing it ) did not fix the system. was running Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy daily 10/02/2006 at that time... lost about 3000 emails..and allot of sleep. -- FYI. Rich From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Sun Oct 8 04:25:34 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 00:25:34 -0400 Subject: aptitude update and I get this ? Message-ID: <200610080025.34359.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 How does one fix this.. Thanks - Rich From hawkwind at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 04:36:27 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 23:36:27 -0500 Subject: aptitude update and I get this ? In-Reply-To: <200610080025.34359.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610080025.34359.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: On 10/7/06, Richard wrote: > > W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org edgy-plf Release: The > following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718 > > How does one fix this.. > > Thanks - > > Rich > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv F120156012B83718 && gpg --export --armor F120156012B83718 | sudo apt-key add - Copy and paste that and it should get you going. Then run sudo apt-get update again. -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 10:21:03 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 12:21:03 +0200 Subject: HP scanner Message-ID: <880dece00610080321m508f0a71xdd452ed9e1c65bcb@mail.gmail.com> I have an HP 4255 All-in-One Scanner/Fax/Printer. The printer functions work great. How can I scan an image with the device? I've never scanner in either windows or Linux. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://english-lyrics.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Oct 8 10:39:59 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:39:59 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: <4527EF9E.4000605@rmk.co.il> References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> <4527EF9E.4000605@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: Nigel Ridley wrote the following on 07.10.2006 20:19: > I do however remember having a 'local' server list but am sure that it > just was an alias for the master mirror as when I was upgrading it was > downloading from the master rather than my 'local' mirror. $ dig il.archive.ubuntu.com . . ;; ANSWER SECTION: il.archive.ubuntu.com. 578 IN A 195.248.90.54 il.archive.ubuntu.com. 578 IN A 195.248.90.23 $ dig archive.ubuntu.com . . ;; ANSWER SECTION: archive.ubuntu.com. 462 IN A 195.248.90.23 archive.ubuntu.com. 462 IN A 195.248.90.54 You are right they are the same as it seems there is no "lokal" mirror in your region yet. I saw so many thoughtless post of sources.lists on forums and mailing lists and more over there will be a lot of ppl who thoughtless copy-and-paste those sources.list over to there own. Maybe call me narrow-minded in this case but IMHO it is allways a good advice to think twice which sources to put in there. A standard all complete (K)ubuntu sources.list only need three lines and you will have access to all the goodness that (K)ubuntu provide. > Blessings, > > Nigel sorry Nigel and Dotan if i was bit rude but it´s just i am thankfull for the high quality service (K)ubuntu provides and it is my opinion that at least a user should treat this effort with respect. This also (but not only) applies to the precious resource of mirrors. bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: Ox4A411E09 From angusprune at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 13:46:20 2006 From: angusprune at gmail.com (Angus Prune) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:46:20 +0100 Subject: Unable to access DVD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18cdd8230610080646j569639camc2ae45ea2b03bcb0@mail.gmail.com> Hi, When I insert a DVD (Civ IV, if it matters) into my DVD drive (one of two drives) it appears, and I can mount it, but I can't access it. I've tried running sudo konqueror and that allows me in so I assume the problem is with the permissions (the owner is root). The permissions are set to: Owner - veiw and edit Group - view Other - Forbidden I've tried changing these through sudo konqueror btu it won't let me, giving the following error message in Konsole ---- ScimInputContextPlugin() KWrited - Listening on Device /dev/pts/2 kded: Launching previous backup analyse. QObject::connect: No such signal KIO::SimpleJob::redirection(KIO::Job*,const KUR L&) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'job') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') QObject::connect: No such signal KIO::SimpleJob::redirection(KIO::Job*,const KUR L&) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'job') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') ScimInputContextPlugin() kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Could not write data konqueror: WARNING: Profile Loading Error: No orientation specified in Container 0 QObject::connect: No such signal KIO::SimpleJob::redirection(KIO::Job*,const KUR L&) QObject::connect: (sender name: 'job') QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'unnamed') kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header read failed, errno=104 kio (KIOConnection): ERROR: Header has invalid size (-1) kio (KLauncher): ERROR: SlavePool: No communication with slave. konqueror: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client ---- Thanks for any help James -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Oct 7 17:33:52 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:33:52 -0300 Subject: Edgy's new startup scripts References: <200610060752.20508.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <3tgiv3-nh2.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> <200610062300.56950.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <015lv3-r4k.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Friday 06 October 2006 12:38 pm, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Howard Coles Jr. wrote: >> >> It _can_ (upstart isn't installed by default); I have; and it is :-) > > Ok. I was thinking sysvinit was gone in Edgy, or at least somewhat > replaced > anyway. And I hope it is. I've done a little reading off the website, > and > it sounds like something that should have been around for years. Its one > of those things you wonder why someone didn't think of it some time ago, > know what I mean? I agree, but the plan is that all init scripts will need to be upstart compatible in edgy+2 - that's a good way off yet. >> If it's as good as it seems, everybody will be using upstart :-) (well >> maybe not everybody). > > Well, that would be good. However, I doubt Debian will use it. Because > it started in Ubuntu, and the debian folks seem to hate Ubuntu because its > stole their limelight. I don't believe that for a minute. There are a few Debian users who despise Ubuntu, but that doesn't seem to stretch to the developers. There are certainly various package managers who feel the give-and-take between Debian & Ubuntu _for their specific package_ involves more take & less give on Ubuntu's part. I expect, in some cases it's even true. That doesn't mean that Debian is in any way incapable of capitalizing on a good idea that Ubuntu has. >> Ho hum... Even if LSB was desirable, it's way too early for that. >> Nothing in Edgy, or even in the next release of Ubuntu, will require you >> to use upstart. > > Well, I really don't know what LSB buys you other than an app developer's > ability to write the app once and it work on all distros. However, not enough of the Linux distros have bought into the LSB concept for that to be true. >> > Also, were would one find a good set of "howtos" on doing any >> > customization of this new style? >> >> I don't think it's that far yet... > > Well, actually it is. From what I read on the site its going to get to > where it will replace at, cron, inetd, and a couple of other daemons. It's _going_ to get there, but they're still in the process of settling the API. So any howto you might find could be obsolete next week. It won't have replaced cron or inetd when Edgy is released. iirc, it isn't expected to have done that when the next release comes out (though I think it should be _capable_ of replacing them by then - in the same way that it can now be used instead of sysvinit, but hasn't replaced it). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Oct 7 17:40:38 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 14:40:38 -0300 Subject: cron.daily questions References: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> <200610052031.58755.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <45266CF0.1050005@gmail.com> <4526D356.4060805@gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans wrote: > Derek Broughton said the following at 10/06/2006 11:25 AM : >> Here's my /etc/crontab. Clearer? >> > > OOoohhh!! /etc/crontab, not the crontabs for individual users. Right; got > it; so the daily stuff runs at 6:25am. Probably :-) >> 25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || \ >> run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily That test for anacron says to let anacron handle it if anacron's installed. Now, what may be happening in your case - is that your computer is never on at 6:25am and you don't have anacron installed. Any machine that doesn't run 7/24 should probably have anacron. > The piece of information I was missing is that I am not missing anything > :-) > > In other words, what I didn't know was that output from cron.daily jobs > doesn't go anywhere into a log; if there is any output, it gets mailed to > root. And the fact that I'm not seeing any such mail means that tmpreaper > isn't producing any output. Maybe. What happens to anything else you mail to root at localhost? Unless you're already receiving emails, somewhere, that were sent to root, just send a test email from your favorite mail client to root at localhost and make sure you see it. > (This is different behaviour from other > linuces I have used; Mandriva, for example, puts cron.daily output in > /var/log/messages. One of the things that I have found unsettling with > Kubuntu is the sparseness of /var/log/messages -- not that it's a problem; > it's just different from what I'm used to.) That's not behaviour I've ever seen, but I've only ever used Debian-derived distros for more than a day or two. It's not what happens on the Compaq Tru-Unix system I have access to, either. > -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 16:01:03 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:01:03 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> <4527EF9E.4000605@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <880dece00610080901s17df97bfl52cb625998898439@mail.gmail.com> On 08/10/06, Thilo Six wrote: > > $ dig il.archive.ubuntu.com > . > . > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > il.archive.ubuntu.com. 578 IN A 195.248.90.54 > il.archive.ubuntu.com. 578 IN A 195.248.90.23 > > > $ dig archive.ubuntu.com > . > . > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > archive.ubuntu.com. 462 IN A 195.248.90.23 > archive.ubuntu.com. 462 IN A 195.248.90.54 > > > You are right they are the same as it seems there is no "lokal" mirror > in your region yet. I'm not the computer wiz I maybe should be, so I'll ask a stupid question. Because they return the same IP address, they are actually the same, right? So any il.* can be safely removed from my sources.list? > I saw so many thoughtless post of sources.lists on forums and mailing > lists and more over there will be a lot of ppl who thoughtless > copy-and-paste those sources.list over to there own. > Maybe call me narrow-minded in this case but IMHO it is allways a good > advice to think twice which sources to put in there. If it was me doing the thinking, then I'd do it three times. I repeat that what you saw in my sources.list file is what came out of the box. I do bellieve that you are correct, and that the maintainer of that particular peice should be made known of the situation. > A standard all complete (K)ubuntu sources.list only need three lines and > you will have access to all the goodness that (K)ubuntu provide. I'd appreciate it if you'd share with me what those three lines should be. > sorry Nigel and Dotan if i was bit rude but it´s just i am thankfull for > the high quality service (K)ubuntu provides and it is my opinion that at > least a user should treat this effort with respect. > This also (but not only) applies to the precious resource of mirrors. Like said before, the maintainer should be made aware. That is what will save the mirrors, instead of having each naive user (that's me) edit them out by hand. I didn't think that you were rude. You were defending something precious to you. I understand that very well. I think that I can speak for Nigel on that matter as well, he knows what I'm talking about. (הגנה על המדינה). Thanks for all your help. I'm just beginning to understand exactly what ticks inside (k)ubuntu, and this is part of the learning process. I will make more mistakes, to be sure! Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Oct 8 16:52:16 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:52:16 +0200 Subject: HP scanner In-Reply-To: <880dece00610080321m508f0a71xdd452ed9e1c65bcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610080321m508f0a71xdd452ed9e1c65bcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45292CC0.70100@rmk.co.il> Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have an HP 4255 All-in-One Scanner/Fax/Printer. The printer > functions work great. How can I scan an image with the device? I've > never scanner in either windows or Linux. Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://english-lyrics.com/ > http://song-lirics.com/ > Shalom Dotan, We recently had a HP all_in_one and all that was needed to scan was to open 'Xsane' (it's located under 'Graphics' in the 'K' Menu). Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Sun Oct 8 16:58:32 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (Rafal Zawadzki) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:58:32 +0200 Subject: Unable to access DVD In-Reply-To: <18cdd8230610080646j569639camc2ae45ea2b03bcb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <18cdd8230610080646j569639camc2ae45ea2b03bcb0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610081858.32680.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> Dnia niedziela, 8 października 2006 15:46, Angus Prune napisał: > Hi, > When I insert a DVD (Civ IV, if it matters) into my DVD drive (one > of two drives) it appears, and I can mount it, but I can't access it. > I've tried running sudo konqueror and that allows me in so I assume > the problem is with the permissions (the owner is root). The > permissions are set to: > > Owner - veiw and edit > Group - view > Other - Forbidden you should edit /etc/fstab, and propably you will find similar line: /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 You can try change it to the: /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,mode=0555 0 0 -- __ __ Rafał Zawadzki [jid/mail: bluszcz at jabberpl.org, skype: blvszcz] | |--.| |.--.--.-----.-----.----.-----. [www: http://bluszcz.jabberpl.org] | _ || || | |__ --|-- __| __|-- __| [ http://pyrss.jabberstudio.org/ ] |_____||__||_____|_____|_____|____|_____| [ http://glam.pl ciuchy vintage ] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can i install dapper in another partition and share home >> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than >> with Edgy)? >> >> Thanks again in advance. > > IMHO it is not a good idea to share the home between them, > because there a new program versions in edgy which will change most > proabaly the files at first start. > > If you use then the dapper version again ... well this will lead surely > to problems. Since he's going to use different users, I don't see a problem. It should work fine. -- derek I got it! Two different users, one for Edgy and one for Dapper, and they can share the partition for home.Just one thing, to me strange: when i run Edgy, the folder of Dapper's user owns to the Edgy's user, and viceversa. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Oct 8 17:13:35 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:13:35 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: <880dece00610080901s17df97bfl52cb625998898439@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> <4527EF9E.4000605@rmk.co.il> <880dece00610080901s17df97bfl52cb625998898439@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen wrote the following on 08.10.2006 18:01: > I'm not the computer wiz I maybe should be, so I'll ask a stupid > question. Because they return the same IP address, they are actually > the same, right? So any il.* can be safely removed from my > sources.list? Right now it would make no difference if you would use it with or without il.**** since they are _right now_ routed to the same IP=Server. But that may change in the future. So i suggest to leave the il.*** since it does no harm and when there is actual a "lokal" mirror near you, you will instandly using it. > I'd appreciate it if you'd share with me what those three lines should be. Of cource here you are: <------------------------------------------------------------------- deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse -------------------------------------------------------------------> and maybe for some extra apps a 4th line: (Realplayer + Opera) deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main > Thanks for all your help. I'm just beginning to understand exactly > what ticks inside (k)ubuntu, and this is part of the learning process. > I will make more mistakes, to be sure! It´s not a problem to make mistakes. It´s allway a problem to _not_ learn from them. And from my experience i have to say way to much ppl have a big problem with that second part. > Dotan Cohen bye Thilo From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Sun Oct 8 18:38:17 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:38:17 -0400 Subject: Cable modem / Internet / Edgy 6.10 daily Message-ID: <200610081438.17414.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> There is something serious wrong with Edgy networking conenction, via ethernet ( could be driver related) that is effecting downloading, within a short time, the connection STOPs ( can't even ping out ) have to reboot the machine, then all is well... have included some stat's for a Network Guru, to figure this one out. ( or maybe) edgy is still very buggy. ( just would like to surf, with out rebooting every 30 mins or so. ) Please note: did not have this problem with Dapper 6.0.6.1 at all. Thanks - Rich PS: when using ifconfig ( compare to window ipconfig) in windows, we could release and renew, how does one do this in Linux ??? ---- rick at KB32bit:~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:25:28:93:B3 inet addr:24.92.160.221 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.248.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1 RX packets:21605 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:3 TX packets:12296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:8014066 (7.6 MiB) TX bytes:952583 (930.2 KiB) Interrupt:50 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) netstat -i Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg eth0 576 0 22082 0 0 0 12296 0 0 0 BMRU lo 16436 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 LRU netstat -s rick at KB32bit:~$ netstat -s Ip: 12836 total packets received 2 with invalid addresses 0 forwarded 0 incoming packets discarded 12834 incoming packets delivered 12316 requests sent out Icmp: 0 ICMP messages received 0 input ICMP message failed. ICMP input histogram: 5 ICMP messages sent 0 ICMP messages failed ICMP output histogram: destination unreachable: 5 Tcp: 13 active connections openings 0 passive connection openings 0 failed connection attempts 0 connection resets received 0 connections established 12750 segments received 12259 segments send out 8 segments retransmited 11 bad segments received. 4 resets sent Udp: 106 packets received 5 packets to unknown port received. 0 packet receive errors 52 packets sent TcpExt: 6 TCP sockets finished time wait in fast timer 25 delayed acks sent Quick ack mode was activated 2 times 5602 packet headers predicted 26 acknowledgments not containing data received 218 predicted acknowledgments 0 TCP data loss events 1 other TCP timeouts 2 DSACKs sent for old packets 1 connections aborted due to timeout ----------------------------------------------------------------- From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sun Oct 8 19:08:28 2006 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 21:08:28 +0200 Subject: bogofilter - kmail Message-ID: <200610082108.28750.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, Each day i receive a lot of spam. Each time i mark them with the button "Filter Classify as spam". But bogofilter doesn't seem to detect anything automatic. What is wrong? Karl, From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 19:29:14 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 21:29:14 +0200 Subject: HP scanner In-Reply-To: <45292CC0.70100@rmk.co.il> References: <880dece00610080321m508f0a71xdd452ed9e1c65bcb@mail.gmail.com> <45292CC0.70100@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <880dece00610081229v4f3172d2m844fd1a8c5afa74@mail.gmail.com> On 08/10/06, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I have an HP 4255 All-in-One Scanner/Fax/Printer. The printer > > functions work great. How can I scan an image with the device? I've > > never scanner in either windows or Linux. Thanks. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://english-lyrics.com/ > > http://song-lirics.com/ > > > > Shalom Dotan, > > We recently had a HP all_in_one and all that was needed to scan was to > open 'Xsane' (it's located under 'Graphics' in the 'K' Menu). > > Blessings, > > Nigel Thanks. I open Xsame, but when I press the "scan" button on the scanner, I get this on the scanner's lcd display: "You need to install or run device software for feature. Press OK to continue." Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Sun Oct 8 19:45:35 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 15:45:35 -0400 Subject: bogofilter - kmail In-Reply-To: <200610082108.28750.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200610082108.28750.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200610081545.35348.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Had the same problem all the time, there something not right, some people have gotten it to work, I just un-installed it ( there 3 of bogofilter files ). installed spamassiassian and spamc, then launch kmail go under tool spam wizard, and follow threw.. spamassiassian will can the spam. Rich On Sunday 08 October 2006 3:08 pm, Karl wrote: > Hi, > > Each day i receive a lot of spam. > Each time i mark them with the button "Filter Classify as spam". > But bogofilter doesn't seem to detect anything automatic. > > What is wrong? > > Karl, From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 8 21:06:21 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:06:21 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> <4527EF9E.4000605@rmk.co.il> <880dece00610080901s17df97bfl52cb625998898439@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610081406q539df0aci2727d23e2e5c7885@mail.gmail.com> On 08/10/06, Thilo Six wrote: > Right now it would make no difference if you would use it with or > without il.**** since they are _right now_ routed to the same IP=Server. > But that may change in the future. > So i suggest to leave the il.*** since it does no harm and when there is > actual a "lokal" mirror near you, you will instandly using it. Gotcha. > Of cource here you are: > <------------------------------------------------------------------- > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe > multiverse > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted > universe multiverse > deb http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted > universe multiverse > -------------------------------------------------------------------> > > and maybe for some extra apps a 4th line: > (Realplayer + Opera) > > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main Thanks. > It´s not a problem to make mistakes. It´s allway a problem to _not_ > learn from them. > And from my experience i have to say way to much ppl have a big problem > with that second part. Very true. I know this well. Thanks again. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/ http://gmail-com.com/ From brymelvin at melvinart.com Mon Oct 9 00:27:50 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 17:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP scanner In-Reply-To: <880dece00610080321m508f0a71xdd452ed9e1c65bcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061009002750.93144.qmail@web33511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: I have an HP 4255 All-in-One Scanner/Fax/Printer. The printer functions work great. How can I scan an image with the device? I've never scanner in either windows or Linux. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://english-lyrics.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users My experience with HP all in ones hasn't been great with Ubuntu I recently bought one (C3140) and it wouldn;t scan: HP said to get the latest HPILP source and compile it Now it works fine. The Ubunut implemenatation is lacking I filed a bug report with Ubuntu on this. HP gives goos instructions even telling you what libraries to install. After that it's ./config make and make install. it now works fine...don't forget to use suo with the make install. I believe installing HPILP from source is the only option to get it to scan. Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel at rimspace.net Mon Oct 9 00:33:02 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:33:02 +1000 Subject: SU & SUDO References: <87ejtl3l8g.fsf@rimspace.net> <87sli025aw.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <87wt7anxa9.fsf@rimspace.net> Dave writes: G'day Dave. Sorry for the delay in responding. > Thank you for the detailed response Daniel. :) You might have > miss-understood my intent, which is to disallow apps in X access to > root, not to switch over to root while running root. Root has no place > in X! Well, that is just my opinion. Sure. Well, if you don't mind the applications that try to use root facilities under X being broken then, sure, disable that access. Be aware that Ubuntu does not share your opinion, however, and that you will run into trouble trying to administer your system without that capability. None of that is insurmountable, but it does demand a reasonable knowledge of Linux to be able to identify and correct the issues as they come up. > I was "trying" to say that I would rather su to root in a console to > run the tools I need. ...as in, the GUI tools, or just general administrative things? > That aside, you mentioned several things I was unaware of. I was not > comparing it to the wheel group, which is a very useful tool. Yes. The default Ubuntu setup is comparable to a wheel-using BSD setup in many ways. > I agree, the developers obviously chose sudo for a reason or they > wouldn't have woven it in. Locking up the Root account is good idea, > but it still has a sudo account right, and an admin group? Yes. > Isn't that like trading 1-fat cow for a group of fat cows? Well, by default one target for one target, but yes. > Trading Root's password, for a sudo password that has all the > privileges of root at the user level may not gain me any security, in > fact, it may make things less convenient but it feels like it gives me > more control. Well, it does go beyond the basics: once the use of sudo is established it becomes more reasonable for the other features of sudo to shine through, such as *limiting* what software can be run as root for users, etc. > However, I will certainly give sudo a chance based on your suggestions > (all very wise), I must admit though, I'm still squeamish about it. > :-) You are right that you don't gain any security in terms of access to root capabilities -- that still exists, and is tied to admin-capable accounts, which there can be more of than the single root account. Anyway, the sudo_root man page covers the reasoning of the Ubuntu team in detail, and is probably where you should look next if you want to understand why in more detail. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Not out of the box, but in an enterprise environment where these were added... -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From fvgi242ss at gmx.de Mon Oct 9 02:55:27 2006 From: fvgi242ss at gmx.de (gissmoh) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 04:55:27 +0200 Subject: OT: Ubuntu Dapper on Intel-Macbook/Macbook Pro Message-ID: <4529BA1F.9010708@gmx.de> Anyone running Dapper on a Macbook/Macbook Pro? I would know if everything works fine as on a "normal" Notebook (FSC, Acer, Toshiba ....). Thanx -- Jochen From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Oct 9 05:09:08 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:09:08 -0700 Subject: Accessing Ubuntu Gnome menus in KDE References: <880dece00610070333m48069b20rf872fef2e40938d0@mail.gmail.com> <452785BF.5080506@optonline.net> <880dece00610070433s143dc9f7t9f805902a8297f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3974862.7TvjuNmgbv@angrykeyboarder.com> On Saturday 07 October 2006 04:33 am, Dotan Cohen (dotancohen at gmail.com) spake thusly: > > There are other system tools as well that I'd like to access. But in > any case, I'd like to know how to access the Gnome menus (or at least > the programs in them). Thank you. You might want to give this a shot.: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/search.php?search=Search&name=K+Menu+Gnome There's a Debian package and Source Code. I used the Debian package a while back and it worked quite nicely. It gives you a "GNOME" entry on the K Menu with submenus just like you'd see were in GNOME (but only GNOME apps appear). -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 06:36:33 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:36:33 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> I am installing Kubuntu on a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 and basically following these instructions for Ubuntu (am not going to worry about Compiz etc just yet though); http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684&highlight=inspiron+6400 As can be seen the installation refers to intalling i8kutils and gkrellm to control fan (something I thought was hardware based I must admit). Anyone knows of a KDE replacement for gkrellm? Anyone knows if this is really needed? Regards, Sinclair From bonedu at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 09:50:02 2006 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:50:02 +0200 Subject: Problems with Acrobe Reader and Copy and Paste Message-ID: <3e192e060610090250p2fc6768ckf0358f03f2d0dd81@mail.gmail.com> Hi again, The "select tool" in acrobe reader (the version i have installed is 7.0.8-0.0.ubuntu2) doesn't allow me to select what i want. Moreover, when i use the "Snapshot tool" to copy and paste parts of the pdf to openoffice writer, i can only paste the first snapshot capture. After the first one, when i go to the writer and paste i got pasted an older content of the clipboard -always the same content. Does anybody else experience this? Eduard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That's why it comes with a CD. > I filed a bug report with Ubuntu on this. > > HP gives goos instructions even telling you what libraries to install. Do you still have those instructions? I'd like to see them. Thanks. What department did you contact? When I tried the online chat support, they told me that they don't support Linux. I told them that I'm now returning the unit (which I might- I have 14 days to do so at Office Depot). > After that it's ./config make and make install. > > it now works fine...don't forget to use suo with the make install. > > I believe installing HPILP from source is the only option to get it to scan. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/ http://simplesniff.com/ From johannes80 at polyester.se Mon Oct 9 10:24:28 2006 From: johannes80 at polyester.se (Johannes Schill) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:24:28 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061009122428.raud2cye0w8404k8@webbmail29.loopia.se> Im not sure if this helps, but.. I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 and I dont think i use a separate program to control the fan. At least I havent bothered installing one.. However, it's really hot now when i think of it.. Citerar Orjan Sinclair : > I am installing Kubuntu on a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 and basically > following these instructions for Ubuntu (am not going to worry about > Compiz etc just yet though); > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684&highlight=inspiron+6400 > > As can be seen the installation refers to intalling i8kutils and gkrellm > to control fan (something I thought was hardware based I must admit). > Anyone knows of a KDE replacement for gkrellm? Anyone knows if this is > really needed? > > Regards, > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Johannes http://www.polyester.se http://music.colorize.net From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 10:37:00 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:37:00 +0200 Subject: Change file names based upon date_time Message-ID: <880dece00610090337s7fc80ccco74f01c5d3efa0ad8@mail.gmail.com> I have a recursive directory of photos with inconsistent filenames. Is there a program that will rename all the files, based upon the time and date that the photo was taken? Can I do this with bash (that means that bash will need to read the exif data)? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/ http://english-lyrics.com/ From alvonsius.albert at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 10:52:33 2006 From: alvonsius.albert at gmail.com (Alvonsius Albert) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:52:33 +0700 Subject: Beryl flip up my desktop Message-ID: <9dcecb110610090352s35fbdb35o2688c396c9253dcd@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone. I have just installed AIGLX and Beryl to beautifying my desktop. I think the AIGLX part is okay, but when I run beryl (even with --indirect-rendering and other option) my desktop won't respond anymore and everything in my desktop fliiped 180 degrees. The position still the same, just flipped 180d. Anyone know what's going on here? Here's my xorg.conf if you need: # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/CID" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi" # paths to defoma fonts FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID" EndSection Section "Module" #Load "GLcore" Load "i2c" Load "bitmap" Load "ddc" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "type1" Load "vbe" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card" Driver "i810" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" Option "VBERestore" "true" Option "Clone" "true" Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT,LFP" Option "DevicePresence" "yes" Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" VideoRam 131072 #Option "ForceBIOS" "1024x768=1280x1024" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS" DisplaySize 270 203 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Intel Corporation Intel Default Card" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" #Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" Option "AIGLX" "true" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" #Option "Render" "Enable" EndSection -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alvonsius Albert N Programmer / Web Developer PT Gamatechno Indonesia "Do whatever you like, but remember to take care all the responsibilities" Currently Blog at http://alvonsius.blogsome.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 11:26:29 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:26:29 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <20061009122428.raud2cye0w8404k8@webbmail29.loopia.se> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009122428.raud2cye0w8404k8@webbmail29.loopia.se> Message-ID: <452A31E5.9000705@gmail.com> Johannes Schill wrote: > Im not sure if this helps, but.. I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 and I dont > think i use a separate program to control the fan. At least I havent > bothered installing one.. > > However, it's really hot now when i think of it.. > > > > > Citerar Orjan Sinclair : > > >> I am installing Kubuntu on a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 and basically >> following these instructions for Ubuntu (am not going to worry about >> Compiz etc just yet though); >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684&highlight=inspiron+6400 >> >> As can be seen the installation refers to intalling i8kutils and gkrellm >> to control fan (something I thought was hardware based I must admit). >> Anyone knows of a KDE replacement for gkrellm? Anyone knows if this is >> really needed? >> >> Regards, >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > Johannes > http://www.polyester.se > http://music.colorize.net > > Well, I am running an Inspiron 500m with no problems - but it also gets damned hot... Who wrote these and why? As far as I know there are no separate drivers for this in WXP. Sinclair From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 12:38:48 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:38:48 +0200 Subject: Accessing Ubuntu Gnome menus in KDE In-Reply-To: <3974862.7TvjuNmgbv@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <880dece00610070333m48069b20rf872fef2e40938d0@mail.gmail.com> <452785BF.5080506@optonline.net> <880dece00610070433s143dc9f7t9f805902a8297f8@mail.gmail.com> <3974862.7TvjuNmgbv@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610090538l78832136v9f8becbdd201a8@mail.gmail.com> On 09/10/06, Scott wrote: > On Saturday 07 October 2006 04:33 am, Dotan Cohen (dotancohen at gmail.com) > spake thusly: > > > > There are other system tools as well that I'd like to access. But in > > any case, I'd like to know how to access the Gnome menus (or at least > > the programs in them). Thank you. > > You might want to give this a shot.: > > http://www.kde-apps.org/content/search.php?search=Search&name=K+Menu+Gnome > > There's a Debian package and Source Code. I used the Debian package a > while back and it worked quite nicely. > > It gives you a "GNOME" entry on the K Menu with submenus just like you'd > see were in GNOME (but only GNOME apps appear). Nice, thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/ http://essentialinux.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From f.borges at rug.nl Mon Oct 9 13:53:52 2006 From: f.borges at rug.nl (Francisco Borges) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 15:53:52 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:36AM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > I am installing Kubuntu on a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 and basically > following these instructions for Ubuntu (am not going to worry about > Compiz etc just yet though); > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684&highlight=inspiron+6400 > > As can be seen the installation refers to intalling i8kutils and gkrellm > to control fan (something I thought was hardware based I must admit). > Anyone knows of a KDE replacement for gkrellm? Anyone knows if this is > really needed? AFAIK you don't need to install a program to control the fans. I originally created this page for the Inspiron6400, and some other people have made a mess of it... but anyway check out this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400 (I'll try to clean this page a bit later tonight) Cheers, -- Francisco From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 14:36:01 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 16:36:01 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> Francisco Borges wrote: > » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:36AM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > > >> I am installing Kubuntu on a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 and basically >> following these instructions for Ubuntu (am not going to worry about >> Compiz etc just yet though); >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684&highlight=inspiron+6400 >> >> As can be seen the installation refers to intalling i8kutils and gkrellm >> to control fan (something I thought was hardware based I must admit). >> Anyone knows of a KDE replacement for gkrellm? Anyone knows if this is >> really needed? >> > > AFAIK you don't need to install a program to control the fans. > > I originally created this page for the Inspiron6400, and some other > people have made a mess of it... but anyway check out this: > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400 > > (I'll try to clean this page a bit later tonight) > > Cheers, > Appreciate the input. One does however get a bit worried when these guys claim this is very important and one talks of a burnt LCD screen. And they are Xpensive... at least where I live. So I installed the i8kutils and then tried to set up kfani8k from KDE apps. Did not work at all though.... Sinclair From f.borges at rug.nl Mon Oct 9 15:19:35 2006 From: f.borges at rug.nl (Francisco Borges) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:19:35 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:36PM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > Francisco Borges wrote: > > AFAIK you don't need to install a program to control the fans. > > > > I originally created this page for the Inspiron6400, and some other > > people have made a mess of it... but anyway check out this: > > > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400 > > > > (I'll try to clean this page a bit later tonight) > > > Appreciate the input. One does however get a bit worried when these guys > claim this is very important and one talks of a burnt LCD screen. And > they are Xpensive... at least where I live. But did you ever hear about specific problems with recent Dell notebooks and Linux? > So I installed the i8kutils and then tried to set up kfani8k from KDE > apps. Did not work at all though.... Hum, I didn't know about this package. I'll check it out. Other things worth mentioning: - There is a bug in Ubuntu, with the kernel corrupting the BIOS of Dell laptops. This *may* cause your laptop to hang while checking the BIOS. This bug is mentioned on the top of the page I linked in the last email. It did happen to me, and removing the CMOS battery in the 6400 is a royal PITA. Seems that the bug is also present in Edgy. - Hibernate and suspend *were* working on Egdy. Now they don't anymore. - Most of the time my cores are down-scaled to 1GHz, (i.e. no CPU intensive work, apart from firefox getting mad). That said, sometimes the fan will kick in on its own; so my guess is that temperature control & fan triggering is working (one way or another). But, if you discover something new about the fan control, please let me know, -- Francisco From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 15:30:55 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:30:55 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> I read about the bios-bug and after I set up this i8kutils to run as a daemon I am having some funny stuff - like kMixer popping up whenever I reboot. So might scrap it and take a change. Problem is - I don't know about this overheating thing. However the HOW-TO on ubuntuforums is very explicit about it and actually 1 contributor mentions his screen overheating and getting ruined. So far I have got resolution working (1280 * 800 - widescreen) though I took a shortcut and have not yet compiled the latest drivers. Wireless seems to work just fine (not using it just yet, have faster wired LAN daytime). Modem is "nobody knows" so will only find out once I try myself. Live with dial-up "non-office", no broadband where I live. Will keep you posted, just hope my next post won't be "my laptop burned out".... Sinclair On 09/10/06, Francisco Borges wrote: > > » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:36PM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > > > Francisco Borges wrote: > > > AFAIK you don't need to install a program to control the fans. > > > > > > I originally created this page for the Inspiron6400, and some other > > > people have made a mess of it... but anyway check out this: > > > > > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400 > > > > > > (I'll try to clean this page a bit later tonight) > > > > > Appreciate the input. One does however get a bit worried when these guys > > claim this is very important and one talks of a burnt LCD screen. And > > they are Xpensive... at least where I live. > > But did you ever hear about specific problems with recent Dell notebooks > and Linux? > > > So I installed the i8kutils and then tried to set up kfani8k from KDE > > apps. Did not work at all though.... > > Hum, I didn't know about this package. I'll check it out. > > Other things worth mentioning: > > - There is a bug in Ubuntu, with the kernel corrupting the BIOS of Dell > laptops. This *may* cause your laptop to hang while checking the > BIOS. This bug is mentioned on the top of the page I linked in the > last email. > > It did happen to me, and removing the CMOS battery in the 6400 is a > royal PITA. Seems that the bug is also present in Edgy. > > - Hibernate and suspend *were* working on Egdy. Now they don't anymore. > > - Most of the time my cores are down-scaled to 1GHz, (i.e. no CPU > intensive work, apart from firefox getting mad). That said, sometimes > the fan will kick in on its own; so my guess is that temperature > control & fan triggering is working (one way or another). > > But, if you discover something new about the fan control, please let me > know, > > -- > Francisco > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 15:46:22 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:46:22 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> Here is an incredibly long thread about this problem; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186003&page=15 sinclair On 09/10/06, O. Sinclair wrote: > > I read about the bios-bug and after I set up this i8kutils to run as a > daemon I am having some funny stuff - like kMixer popping up whenever I > reboot. So might scrap it and take a change. > > Problem is - I don't know about this overheating thing. However the HOW-TO > on ubuntuforums is very explicit about it and actually 1 contributor > mentions his screen overheating and getting ruined. > > So far I have got resolution working (1280 * 800 - widescreen) though I > took a shortcut and have not yet compiled the latest drivers. Wireless seems > to work just fine (not using it just yet, have faster wired LAN daytime). > Modem is "nobody knows" so will only find out once I try myself. Live with > dial-up "non-office", no broadband where I live. > > Will keep you posted, just hope my next post won't be "my laptop burned > out".... > > Sinclair > > On 09/10/06, Francisco Borges < f.borges at rug.nl> wrote: > > > > » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:36PM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > > > > > Francisco Borges wrote: > > > > AFAIK you don't need to install a program to control the fans. > > > > > > > > I originally created this page for the Inspiron6400, and some other > > > > people have made a mess of it... but anyway check out this: > > > > > > > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400 > > > > > > > > (I'll try to clean this page a bit later tonight) > > > > > > > Appreciate the input. One does however get a bit worried when these > > guys > > > claim this is very important and one talks of a burnt LCD screen. And > > > they are Xpensive... at least where I live. > > > > But did you ever hear about specific problems with recent Dell notebooks > > and Linux? > > > > > So I installed the i8kutils and then tried to set up kfani8k from KDE > > > apps. Did not work at all though.... > > > > Hum, I didn't know about this package. I'll check it out. > > > > Other things worth mentioning: > > > > - There is a bug in Ubuntu, with the kernel corrupting the BIOS of Dell > > laptops. This *may* cause your laptop to hang while checking the > > BIOS. This bug is mentioned on the top of the page I linked in the > > last email. > > > > It did happen to me, and removing the CMOS battery in the 6400 is a > > royal PITA. Seems that the bug is also present in Edgy. > > > > - Hibernate and suspend *were* working on Egdy. Now they don't anymore. > > > > - Most of the time my cores are down-scaled to 1GHz, (i.e. no CPU > > intensive work, apart from firefox getting mad). That said, sometimes > > the fan will kick in on its own; so my guess is that temperature > > control & fan triggering is working (one way or another). > > > > But, if you discover something new about the fan control, please let me > > know, > > > > -- > > Francisco > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From f.borges at rug.nl Mon Oct 9 16:04:08 2006 From: f.borges at rug.nl (Francisco Borges) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 18:04:08 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:46PM +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: > Here is an incredibly long thread about this problem; > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186003&page=15 The first thing I thought when I saw you email was: "Don't say your laptop s burned". I took a fast look at the thread (will read the rest later). Lot's of good info there. It seems that most people having problems had either NVIDIA or ATI cards. I have an Intel. Anyway, I'll see if I am able to start measuring the temperature, and then report what I get. BTW, this is a nice link for a GNOME temperature monitoring applet http://computertemp.berlios.de/, is there any KDE equivalent for that? Cheers, -- Francisco From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 16:13:20 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 18:13:20 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> References: <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> Hi, correctly I have the ATI card in this one (915 in another and that one gets HOT and I have only now discovered this possible problem. One thing at a time...) As for any applets for this cpu temp I am yet to find one that works... as you can see in original thread guys in Gnome use Gkrellm (works in KDE too but is not to my taste - too intrusive) or TKapplet for Gnome pane Sinclair On 09/10/06, Francisco Borges wrote: > > » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 05:46PM +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > Here is an incredibly long thread about this problem; > > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186003&page=15 > > The first thing I thought when I saw you email was: "Don't say your > laptop s burned". > > I took a fast look at the thread (will read the rest later). Lot's of > good info there. > > It seems that most people having problems had either NVIDIA or ATI > cards. I have an Intel. Anyway, I'll see if I am able to start measuring > the temperature, and then report what I get. > > BTW, this is a nice link for a GNOME temperature monitoring applet > http://computertemp.berlios.de/, is there any KDE equivalent for that? > > Cheers, > -- > Francisco > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Mon Oct 9 16:23:57 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:23:57 -0400 Subject: Edgy: Eth0 not setting correct MTU Message-ID: <200610091223.57567.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Why is edgy not configuring eth0 correctly, mtu's should be around 1500 Here is mine: 2: eth0: mtu 576 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 link/ether 00:03:25:28:93:b3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 10) ---- As you can see its not 1500 ( Anyone ?? ) Rich From rbh at neohawk.org Mon Oct 9 16:35:15 2006 From: rbh at neohawk.org (Robert B. Hawkins) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 12:35:15 -0400 Subject: Edgy: Eth0 not setting correct MTU In-Reply-To: <200610091223.57567.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610091223.57567.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610091235.15230.rbh@neohawk.org> On Monday 09 October 2006 12:23, Richard wrote: > Why is edgy not configuring eth0 correctly, > mtu's should be around 1500 > > Here is mine: > 2: eth0: mtu 576 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 > link/ether 00:03:25:28:93:b3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > > Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8036 PCI-E Fast > Ethernet Controller (rev 10) > ---- > As you can see its not 1500 ( Anyone ?? ) FWIW, mine are 1500...... > > Rich -- Robert B. Hawkins http://www.neohawk.org 440-210-1621 (home) 440-829-4993 (cell) rbh at neohawk.org From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Oct 9 16:33:38 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:33:38 +0200 Subject: apt-get source list In-Reply-To: <880dece00610081406q539df0aci2727d23e2e5c7885@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610070711hee43c4bnf227add8ce2de5bd@mail.gmail.com> <4527BDBC.7060507@rmk.co.il> <4527EF9E.4000605@rmk.co.il> <880dece00610080901s17df97bfl52cb625998898439@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610081406q539df0aci2727d23e2e5c7885@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dotan Cohen wrote the following on 08.10.2006 23:06: > Thanks again. > > Dotan Cohen you are welcome. ;) bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: Ox4A411E09 From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Mon Oct 9 17:49:44 2006 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:49:44 +0200 Subject: bogofilter - kmail In-Reply-To: <200610091156.32484.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> References: <200610082108.28750.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200610091156.32484.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Message-ID: <200610091949.45036.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> I've tried this; karl at karl-laptop:~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/.trash.directory/spam/cur$ for i in * ; do bogofilter -v -s -B $i ; done Then i get something like this; # 231 words, 1 message # 226 words, 1 message # 128 words, 1 message # 46 words, 1 message # 185 words, 1 message ... Let's hope... bye Kar l On Monday 09 October 2006 11:56, Piero Ottuzzi wrote: > Hi Karl, > > please look at my post here: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-September/009029.html > I also opened a bug > (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bogofilter/+bug/61060) but > nothing so far :( > > Let me know if it works for you. > > Bye > Piero > > Alle 21:08, domenica 8 ottobre 2006, Karl ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > Each day i receive a lot of spam. > > Each time i mark them with the button "Filter Classify as spam". > > But bogofilter doesn't seem to detect anything automatic. > > > > What is wrong? > > > > Karl, -- Have a look at www.kubuntu.org From aikurn at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 19:27:49 2006 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 21:27:49 +0200 Subject: Change file names based upon date_time In-Reply-To: <880dece00610090337s7fc80ccco74f01c5d3efa0ad8@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610090337s7fc80ccco74f01c5d3efa0ad8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2006/10/9, Dotan Cohen : > I have a recursive directory of photos with inconsistent filenames. Is > there a program that will rename all the files, based upon the time > and date that the photo was taken? Have you tried Krename[1]? It's a GUI tool, not command line, and it's in the repositories. You can add all the files that you want and it "batch-renames" them automagically. It has an option to add exif data to the filename, I have a localized version (Spanish) but I guess it's called "expressions" in English or something similar. Hope it helps. From aikurn at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 19:27:56 2006 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 21:27:56 +0200 Subject: Change file names based upon date_time In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610090337s7fc80ccco74f01c5d3efa0ad8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2006/10/9, Leticia Hernández : > 2006/10/9, Dotan Cohen : > > I have a recursive directory of photos with inconsistent filenames. Is > > there a program that will rename all the files, based upon the time > > and date that the photo was taken? > > Have you tried Krename[1]? It's a GUI tool, not command line, and it's > in the repositories. You can add all the files that you want and it > "batch-renames" them automagically. It has an option to add exif data > to the filename, I have a localized version (Spanish) but I guess it's > called "expressions" in English or something similar. > > Hope it helps. > From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 19:46:18 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 13:46:18 -0600 Subject: Unable to upgrade amarok Message-ID: <256f4e900610091246v70c92be6r2e187d5c3cd6f346@mail.gmail.com> I am in the process of shifting my second machine over to Kubuntu, and have found an issue that I didn't have with my first one. 1. Kubuntu 6.06.1 is up and running fine. 2. I have updated to KDE 3.5.4; that all went fine as well. But when I try to update to amarok 1.4.2 or 1.4.3, adept says that it can't upgrade. It doesn't seem to give a reason; it just says: "BREAK (upgrade)" in red letters. How do I figure out what the problem is? As far as I recollect, I am doing nothing any different than I did on my first system, and amarok upgraded fine there. FWIW, these are both 64-bit systems. From bonedu at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 20:12:05 2006 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:12:05 +0200 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <3e192e060610081000g4716cc5av6a78e5b828c93852@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e192e060610081000g4716cc5av6a78e5b828c93852@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3e192e060610091312x2a74063w3f33a71dfc0f6af@mail.gmail.com> 2006/10/8, Eduard Bonet : > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Is it possible to share HOME between Edgy and Dapper > Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:08:33 -0300 > From: Derek Broughton > Reply-To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions < > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > Organization: PointerStop consulting > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > References: <4522727D.6020300 at upf.edu> > > Thilo Six wrote: > > > Eduard wrote the following on 03.10.2006 16:23: > >> I have Edgy beta running in one partition, with home directory in > >> another one. Can i install dapper in another partition and share home > >> directory with Edgy (of course given dapper a different user name than > >> with Edgy)? > >> > >> Thanks again in advance. > > > > IMHO it is not a good idea to share the home between them, > > because there a new program versions in edgy which will change most > > proabaly the files at first start. > > > > If you use then the dapper version again ... well this will lead surely > > to problems. > > Since he's going to use different users, I don't see a problem. It should > work fine. > -- > derek I got it! Two different users, one for Edgy and one for Dapper, they can share the same partition for home.Just one thing, to me strange: when i run Edgy, the folder of Dapper's user owns to the Edgy's user, and viceversa. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aikurn at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 21:12:52 2006 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 23:12:52 +0200 Subject: Change file names based upon date_time In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610090337s7fc80ccco74f01c5d3efa0ad8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry for the duplicated message, Gmail is weird today for me. The missing link was http://www.krename.net/ Bye. From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 21:09:03 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 23:09:03 +0200 Subject: Change file names based upon date_time In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610090337s7fc80ccco74f01c5d3efa0ad8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610091409u2500a04axef1f912b7844f4d2@mail.gmail.com> On 09/10/06, Leticia Hernández wrote: > 2006/10/9, Dotan Cohen : > > I have a recursive directory of photos with inconsistent filenames. Is > > there a program that will rename all the files, based upon the time > > and date that the photo was taken? > > Have you tried Krename[1]? It's a GUI tool, not command line, and it's > in the repositories. You can add all the files that you want and it > "batch-renames" them automagically. It has an option to add exif data > to the filename, I have a localized version (Spanish) but I guess it's > called "expressions" in English or something similar. > > Hope it helps. Thanks, I'm having a look at it now. I've used Krename in the past, but didn't realize that it could read exif data from photos. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/ http://technology-sleuth.com/ From f.borges at rug.nl Mon Oct 9 22:57:14 2006 From: f.borges at rug.nl (Francisco Borges) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:57:14 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 06:13PM +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: > Hi, > correctly I have the ATI card in this one (915 in another and that one gets > HOT and I have only now discovered this possible problem. One thing at a > time...) > > As for any applets for this cpu temp I am yet to find one that works... as > you can see in original thread guys in Gnome use Gkrellm (works in KDE too > but is not to my taste - too intrusive) or TKapplet for Gnome pane Turns out that KSysGuard can also show the temperature, though by default it will adapt the scale; so you beter set it to some number, in order to make the graph meaningful. [...] My computer had throttling on, but indeed it was getting hot (60C), and the fans were not kicking apparently. If this is /too/ hot, is something I couldn't determine but would love to know. There is something wrong with the latest 2.6.17, the CPU just keeps getting active. With 2.6.15 CPUs behave as expected. I did: % modprobe i8k force=1 without force it won't load, and then I could set fan state using i8kctl. Temperature now is totally stable at 25C (well I'm not doing anything except typing this email....) I also found this: 1. COMPLETE HOW TO: Dell Inspiron 6400 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684 2. Setting the i8kctl to run as daemon and how to configure it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1325507&postcount=128 [...] I still need to check (if there are) BIOS settings for temperature threshold for the fan. I expect these to exist... Cheers, -- Francisco From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 23:38:27 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 17:38:27 -0600 Subject: Unable to upgrade amarok In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610091246v70c92be6r2e187d5c3cd6f346@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610091246v70c92be6r2e187d5c3cd6f346@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610091638y6f7fe51cqccfc69dbe72afc82@mail.gmail.com> OK; I managed to upgrade by using a different repository than the ones I found at www.kubuntu.org for amaroK 1.4.3 and 1.4.2. deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main is the one that worked. Oddly, it actually installed amarok 1.4.3. I'm not complaining :-) The question of how one determines exactly _why_ a package says "BREAK (upgrade)" remains. From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 00:21:59 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:21:59 -0600 Subject: Cable modem / Internet / Edgy 6.10 daily In-Reply-To: <200610081438.17414.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610081438.17414.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <452AE7A7.40808@gmail.com> Richard said the following at 10/08/2006 12:38 PM : > PS: > when using ifconfig ( compare to window ipconfig) in windows, we could > release and renew, how does one do this in Linux ??? man dhclient As the above man page hints, there's really no point in doing a release if you're going to renew; you might as well just do the renew. From frank61752 at tswireless.net Tue Oct 10 01:18:14 2006 From: frank61752 at tswireless.net (Frank Lohmeyer) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:18:14 -0500 Subject: Unable to upgrade amarok In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610091638y6f7fe51cqccfc69dbe72afc82@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610091246v70c92be6r2e187d5c3cd6f346@mail.gmail.com> <256f4e900610091638y6f7fe51cqccfc69dbe72afc82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1160443094.9348.2.camel@kubuntu> On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 17:38 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > OK; I managed to upgrade by using a different repository than the ones > I found at www.kubuntu.org for amaroK 1.4.3 and 1.4.2. > > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main > is the one that worked. Oddly, it actually installed amarok 1.4.3. > I'm not complaining :-) > > The question of how one determines exactly _why_ a package says "BREAK > (upgrade)" remains. I had the same problem with Kubuntu, but not Ubuntu (dual boot). I discovered that ruby was not installling. I removed amarok with the package manager and then went into a terminal and typed: sudo install ruby amarok I got an error message followed by a 'fixed' message, then ruby installed and amarok installed and all was good. Frank From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 01:23:42 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:23:42 -0500 Subject: Unable to upgrade amarok In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610091638y6f7fe51cqccfc69dbe72afc82@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610091246v70c92be6r2e187d5c3cd6f346@mail.gmail.com> <256f4e900610091638y6f7fe51cqccfc69dbe72afc82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610092023.43273.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Monday 09 October 2006 6:38 pm, D. R. Evans wrote: > OK; I managed to upgrade by using a different repository than the ones > I found at www.kubuntu.org for amaroK 1.4.3 and 1.4.2. > > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main > is the one that worked. Oddly, it actually installed amarok 1.4.3. > I'm not complaining :-) > > The question of how one determines exactly _why_ a package says "BREAK > (upgrade)" remains. Synaptic would be the utility you need to use. It gives you a better idea of what would break or what would be "uninstalled" if you install the application you are wanting. There is a command line way as well, but synaptic is easier. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From frank61752 at tswireless.net Tue Oct 10 01:25:33 2006 From: frank61752 at tswireless.net (Frank Lohmeyer) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:25:33 -0500 Subject: Unable to upgrade amarok In-Reply-To: <1160443094.9348.2.camel@kubuntu> References: <256f4e900610091246v70c92be6r2e187d5c3cd6f346@mail.gmail.com> <256f4e900610091638y6f7fe51cqccfc69dbe72afc82@mail.gmail.com> <1160443094.9348.2.camel@kubuntu> Message-ID: <1160443533.9348.6.camel@kubuntu> On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 20:18 -0500, Frank Lohmeyer wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 17:38 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > > OK; I managed to upgrade by using a different repository than the ones > > I found at www.kubuntu.org for amaroK 1.4.3 and 1.4.2. > > > > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main > > is the one that worked. Oddly, it actually installed amarok 1.4.3. > > I'm not complaining :-) > > > > The question of how one determines exactly _why_ a package says "BREAK > > (upgrade)" remains. > > I had the same problem with Kubuntu, but not Ubuntu (dual boot). I > discovered that ruby was not installling. I removed amarok with the > package manager and then went into a terminal and typed: sudo install > ruby amarok > > I got an error message followed by a 'fixed' message, then ruby > installed and amarok installed and all was good. > > Frank OOops! that should teach me to get in a hurry. I actually opened the terminal and typed: sudo apt-get install ruby amarok sorry for the mistake in the earlier post. Frank From brymelvin at melvinart.com Tue Oct 10 05:15:17 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Problems with Acrobe Reader and Copy and Paste In-Reply-To: <3e192e060610090250p2fc6768ckf0358f03f2d0dd81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061010051517.15534.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Eduard Bonet wrote: Hi again, The "select tool" in acrobe reader (the version i have installed is 7.0.8-0.0.ubuntu2) doesn't allow me to select what i want. Moreover, when i use the "Snapshot tool" to copy and paste parts of the pdf to openoffice writer, i can only paste the first snapshot capture. After the first one, when i go to the writer and paste i got pasted an older content of the clipboard -always the same content. Does anybody else experience this? Eduard -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Not having that problem with 7.0.7.0 ubuntu1 and OOo from 2 from OO (not in repositories) on Breezy. All works with KWord also. Haven't loaded these on any machines with 606 ...Regression maybe? FWIW i have switched 3 production machines over to Dapper, have found several things that still work better in Breezy than dapper, I have fixed all of them by compiling or installing Binaries from the programs owner instead of using repository versions. there have been other problems too...like Dapper leaving out the MTA. Real player OOorg Wine and HPILP for starts. Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sinclair wrote: > > >> Hi, >> correctly I have the ATI card in this one (915 in another and that one gets >> HOT and I have only now discovered this possible problem. One thing at a >> time...) >> >> As for any applets for this cpu temp I am yet to find one that works... as >> you can see in original thread guys in Gnome use Gkrellm (works in KDE too >> but is not to my taste - too intrusive) or TKapplet for Gnome pane >> > > Turns out that KSysGuard can also show the temperature, though by > default it will adapt the scale; so you beter set it to some number, in > order to make the graph meaningful. > > [...] > > My computer had throttling on, but indeed it was getting hot (60C), and > the fans were not kicking apparently. If this is /too/ hot, is something > I couldn't determine but would love to know. > > There is something wrong with the latest 2.6.17, the CPU just keeps > getting active. With 2.6.15 CPUs behave as expected. > > I did: > > % modprobe i8k force=1 > > without force it won't load, and then I could set fan state using > i8kctl. Temperature now is totally stable at 25C (well I'm not doing > anything except typing this email....) > > I also found this: > > 1. COMPLETE HOW TO: Dell Inspiron 6400 > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684 > > 2. Setting the i8kctl to run as daemon and how to configure it: > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1325507&postcount=128 > > [...] > > I still need to check (if there are) BIOS settings for temperature > threshold for the fan. I expect these to exist... > > Cheers, > You are progressing better than me... I have followed the steps in the threads you post though I get a weird behaviour after setting i8kmon to run as a daemon; Kmixer starts "pop-up" on every reboot and I get logged out now and then!? I wonder if his code is referring to mentioned TkApplet and if that is what is bugging the daemons? Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 06:46:26 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:46:26 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> Am installing a new PC with Kubuntu Dapper 6.06.1 and now wants to transfer all "home" data from old PC to new PC. Especially vital is mail and others from Kontact. Anyone has got some good ideas on how to best do this? Sinclair From daniel at rimspace.net Tue Oct 10 06:32:45 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:32:45 +1000 Subject: Problems with Acrobe Reader and Copy and Paste References: <3e192e060610090250p2fc6768ckf0358f03f2d0dd81@mail.gmail.com> <20061010051517.15534.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87ac448yuq.fsf@rimspace.net> Bry Melvin writes: [...] > FWIW i have switched 3 production machines over to Dapper, have found > several things that still work better in Breezy than dapper, I have > fixed all of them by compiling or installing Binaries from the > programs owner instead of using repository versions. there have been > other problems too...like Dapper leaving out the MTA. Well, that is an easily solved problem if you know /why/ you need an MTA, and mostly irrelevant if you don't -- at least, until the unread mail fills up your hard disk, anyway. ;) > Real player OOorg Wine and HPILP for starts. I hope you reported the bugs you found into Launchpad so that the developers have a chance to react and correct these problems... Out of interest, how many of those were that a newer version of the software had features lacking in the Ubuntu version -- or were they all installed to the same patch level? Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From gcarst at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 07:18:41 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:18:41 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2006/10/10, Orjan Sinclair : > > Am installing a new PC with Kubuntu Dapper 6.06.1 and now wants to > transfer all "home" data from old PC to new PC. Especially vital is mail > and others from Kontact. Anyone has got some good ideas on how to best > do this? you could use 'rsync' - then you'd also know how to backup. Read as long as you like in this guide and you're all set: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/#Motivation /gunner Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 09:43:24 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:43:24 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ba734f90610100243g8c2a32sc2d91991364fae5f@mail.gmail.com> Thing drives me round the bend. I am trying to do this using a USB flash memory and not LAN or easily moved harddisk etc. as I am on 2 laptops. And rsync gave nothing (or I have not correctly figured out recursive - it LOOKED like it copied but the files are not there). And trying to use Konqi or Krusader I get permission nightmares. Sinclair On 10/10/06, Gunner wrote: > > > > 2006/10/10, Orjan Sinclair : > > > > Am installing a new PC with Kubuntu Dapper 6.06.1 and now wants to > > transfer all "home" data from old PC to new PC. Especially vital is mail > > and others from Kontact. Anyone has got some good ideas on how to best > > do this? > > you could use 'rsync' - then you'd also know how to backup. Read as long > as you like > in this guide and you're all set: > > http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/#Motivation > > /gunner > > > > > > > Sinclair > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And rsync gave nothing > (or I have not correctly figured out recursive - it LOOKED like it copied > but the files are not there) perhaps you will let us in on, what you are doing, then it is easier to find out what is wrong. for example: which rsync command and then what ls command (if any (or you are using konqueror ) best greetings gunner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 11:52:46 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:52:46 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610100243g8c2a32sc2d91991364fae5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> Gunner wrote: > > 2006/10/10, O. Sinclair >: > > Thing drives me round the bend. I am trying to do this using a USB > flash memory and not LAN > > > well well, not quite easy to guess from your first question.. > > > or easily moved harddisk etc. as I am on 2 laptops. And rsync gave > nothing (or I have not correctly figured out recursive - it LOOKED > like it copied but the files are not there) > > > perhaps you will let us in on, what you are doing, then it is easier > to find out what is wrong. > for example: > which rsync command > and then what ls command (if any (or you are using konqueror ) > > best greetings > gunner > > > As always - help is most appreciated. What I am trying to do is to move all my Kmail/Kontact and Thunderbird mail from an existing laptop to the new one. They are not connected via LAN or something so I am trying to use a USB flash to move the data. Without any other comparisons in WinXP I would simply use some app to sync the involved directories from OldPC to USB, then from USB to NewPC. Trying the same with Krusader or Konq (once you have it show the hidden directories under /home/sinclair) gives you all sorts of problems as the permissions from OldPC (sinclair is owner, group etc etc) will change when you try to move it to NewPC. Owner is still sinclair but group has no rights and other items such as rwx will change. Try to do as root or sudo does not help one bit as owner then becomes root... ha ha. Is there really no reasonably simple way to copy from 1 PC to another via removable media?? And keep ownership and rwx permissions as original??? Sinclair - somewhat frustrated as time goes and I am not productive... From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 09:01:00 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:01:00 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <452B614C.7010809@gmail.com> Gunner wrote: > > > 2006/10/10, Orjan Sinclair >: > > Am installing a new PC with Kubuntu Dapper 6.06.1 and now wants to > transfer all "home" data from old PC to new PC. Especially vital > is mail > and others from Kontact. Anyone has got some good ideas on how to > best > do this? > > you could use 'rsync' - then you'd also know how to backup. Read as > long as you like > in this guide and you're all set: > > http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/#Motivation > > /gunner > > > > > > > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Well, this might work when you are on a LAN or can mount disks. But between 2 laptops? I am looking at a way of trying to use a USB memory or something. And I am getting headaches with permissions and you name it. Is ARK an easier way to go? Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 08:58:06 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:58:06 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <452B609E.8000908@gmail.com> Francisco Borges wrote: > » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 06:13PM +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: > > >> Hi, >> correctly I have the ATI card in this one (915 in another and that one gets >> HOT and I have only now discovered this possible problem. One thing at a >> time...) >> >> As for any applets for this cpu temp I am yet to find one that works... as >> you can see in original thread guys in Gnome use Gkrellm (works in KDE too >> but is not to my taste - too intrusive) or TKapplet for Gnome pane >> > > Turns out that KSysGuard can also show the temperature, though by > default it will adapt the scale; so you beter set it to some number, in > order to make the graph meaningful. > > [...] > > My computer had throttling on, but indeed it was getting hot (60C), and > the fans were not kicking apparently. If this is /too/ hot, is something > I couldn't determine but would love to know. > > There is something wrong with the latest 2.6.17, the CPU just keeps > getting active. With 2.6.15 CPUs behave as expected. > > I did: > > % modprobe i8k force=1 > > without force it won't load, and then I could set fan state using > i8kctl. Temperature now is totally stable at 25C (well I'm not doing > anything except typing this email....) > > I also found this: > > 1. COMPLETE HOW TO: Dell Inspiron 6400 > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684 > > 2. Setting the i8kctl to run as daemon and how to configure it: > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1325507&postcount=128 > > [...] > > I still need to check (if there are) BIOS settings for temperature > threshold for the fan. I expect these to exist... > > Cheers, > While starting manually and otherwise following instructions from the "HOW TO..." all works well and I can see via KSysguard that temp stays round 42-44 C - without it was like 55. BUT if I make a daemon of it I get real problems. KMix kicks in on reboot, I get thrown out of Kubuntu without any apparent reason. Have you managed to get past this or you starting it manually after boot? Sinclair From haroldh at midmaine.com Tue Oct 10 12:11:56 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:11:56 -0400 Subject: modem on serial port Message-ID: <452B8E0C.8030700@midmaine.com> I am trying to get my external modem to be seen by kubuntu to setup a modem to dial-up my isp, but not getting anywheres. Has anyone had any problem trying to use the serial ports for like a modem or other things. If so, what did you find for the solution as I have tried many things to get it to work right. Harold From gcarst at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 12:36:52 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:36:52 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610100243g8c2a32sc2d91991364fae5f@mail.gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> Message-ID: try sudo chown -R newuser .kmaildirectory I think sudo chown -R newID .kmaildirectory will also do the trick because your login NAME is the same does not necessarily mean that you have the correct id number. Try to see if your id number in cat /etc/passwd | grep sinclair gives the same number. If not then you have the answer there. /gunner 2006/10/10, Orjan Sinclair : > > Gunner wrote: > > > > 2006/10/10, O. Sinclair > >: > > > > Thing drives me round the bend. I am trying to do this using a USB > > flash memory and not LAN > > > > > > well well, not quite easy to guess from your first question.. > > > > > > or easily moved harddisk etc. as I am on 2 laptops. And rsync gave > > nothing (or I have not correctly figured out recursive - it LOOKED > > like it copied but the files are not there) > > > > > > perhaps you will let us in on, what you are doing, then it is easier > > to find out what is wrong. > > for example: > > which rsync command > > and then what ls command (if any (or you are using konqueror ) > > > > best greetings > > gunner > > > > > > > As always - help is most appreciated. What I am trying to do is to move > all my Kmail/Kontact and Thunderbird mail from an existing laptop to the > new one. They are not connected via LAN or something so I am trying to > use a USB flash to move the data. Without any other comparisons in > WinXP I would simply use some app to sync the involved directories from > OldPC to USB, then from USB to NewPC. > > Trying the same with Krusader or Konq (once you have it show the hidden > directories under /home/sinclair) gives you all sorts of problems as the > permissions from OldPC (sinclair is owner, group etc etc) will change > when you try to move it to NewPC. Owner is still sinclair but group has > no rights and other items such as rwx will change. > > Try to do as root or sudo does not help one bit as owner then becomes > root... ha ha. > > Is there really no reasonably simple way to copy from 1 PC to another > via removable media?? And keep ownership and rwx permissions as > original??? > > Sinclair - somewhat frustrated as time goes and I am not productive... > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 13:20:29 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:20:29 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610100243g8c2a32sc2d91991364fae5f@mail.gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <452B9E1D.50108@gmail.com> Gunner wrote: > try sudo chown -R newuser .kmaildirectory > > I think sudo chown -R newID .kmaildirectory will also do the trick > > > because your login NAME is the same does not necessarily mean that you > have > the correct id number. Try to see if your id number in > cat /etc/passwd | grep sinclair > gives the same number. If not then you have the answer there. > > /gunner > > > 2006/10/10, Orjan Sinclair >: > > Gunner wrote: > > > > 2006/10/10, O. Sinclair > > >>: > > > > Thing drives me round the bend. I am trying to do this using > a USB > > flash memory and not LAN > > > > > > well well, not quite easy to guess from your first question.. > > > > > > or easily moved harddisk etc. as I am on 2 laptops. And > rsync gave > > nothing (or I have not correctly figured out recursive - it > LOOKED > > like it copied but the files are not there) > > > > > > perhaps you will let us in on, what you are doing, then it is > easier > > to find out what is wrong. > > for example: > > which rsync command > > and then what ls command (if any (or you are using konqueror ) > > > > best greetings > > gunner > > > > > > > As always - help is most appreciated. What I am trying to do is to > move > all my Kmail/Kontact and Thunderbird mail from an existing laptop > to the > new one. They are not connected via LAN or something so I am > trying to > use a USB flash to move the data. Without any other comparisons in > WinXP I would simply use some app to sync the involved directories > from > OldPC to USB, then from USB to NewPC. > > Trying the same with Krusader or Konq (once you have it show the > hidden > directories under /home/sinclair) gives you all sorts of problems > as the > permissions from OldPC (sinclair is owner, group etc etc) will change > when you try to move it to NewPC. Owner is still sinclair but > group has > no rights and other items such as rwx will change. > > Try to do as root or sudo does not help one bit as owner then becomes > root... ha ha. > > Is there really no reasonably simple way to copy from 1 PC to another > via removable media?? And keep ownership and rwx permissions as > original??? > > Sinclair - somewhat frustrated as time goes and I am not productive... > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > thanks for the ideas. I finally managed using Ark and quite a bit of fiddling with ownership of the created archive file... THIS is something Linux has to work on IMHO cause honestly - you get a new PC now and then and not everyone has access to x disks or LAN or bandwidth Sinclair From gcarst at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 13:47:15 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:47:15 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <452B9E1D.50108@gmail.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610100243g8c2a32sc2d91991364fae5f@mail.gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> <452B9E1D.50108@gmail.com> Message-ID: > thanks for the ideas. I finally managed using Ark and quite a bit of > fiddling with ownership of the created archive file... > > THIS is something Linux has to work on IMHO cause honestly - you get a > new PC now and then and not everyone has access to x disks or LAN or > bandwidth And THIS is one of Linux's strengths - not everyone has access to mailinglists and free help only an email away... /gunner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 14:03:36 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:03:36 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610100243g8c2a32sc2d91991364fae5f@mail.gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> <452B9E1D.50108@gmail.com> Message-ID: <452BA838.8070705@gmail.com> Gunner wrote: > > thanks for the ideas. I finally managed using Ark and quite a bit of > fiddling with ownership of the created archive file... > > THIS is something Linux has to work on IMHO cause honestly - you get a > new PC now and then and not everyone has access to x disks or LAN or > bandwidth > > > And THIS is one of Linux's strengths - not everyone has access to > mailinglists and free help > only an email away... > > /gunner > > I second that - still there are some things that really should be less complex. Sorry for the oneliner. Sinclair From billy at silverbaseball.com Tue Oct 10 14:15:27 2006 From: billy at silverbaseball.com (Billy Pollifrone) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:15:27 -0400 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452B41C2.2070901@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610100243g8c2a32sc2d91991364fae5f@mail.gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c889d120610100715o3fbb351fi4bec63ebf2b1bf46@mail.gmail.com> On 10/10/06, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > Is there really no reasonably simple way to copy from 1 PC to another > via removable media?? And keep ownership and rwx permissions as original??? > One way is to use tar to create an archive of the files, move the archive to the media and then use tar on the other end to extract the archive. tar czpf --exclude=myfiles.tar.gz myfiles.tar.gz * will create a suitable archive of the files in question. Then once you've gotten the archive to the other system and are at the mount point you want the files to end up, tar xzpf myfiles.tar.gz - Billy From golfbuf at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 14:44:54 2006 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:44:54 -0400 Subject: modem on serial port In-Reply-To: <452B8E0C.8030700@midmaine.com> References: <452B8E0C.8030700@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <835a7820610100744p4a9c4b79p64eaf5bd6e561ce3@mail.gmail.com> On 10/10/06, Harold Hartley wrote: > I am trying to get my external modem to be seen by kubuntu to setup a > modem to dial-up my isp, but not getting anywheres. > Has anyone had any problem trying to use the serial ports for like a > modem or other things. > If so, what did you find for the solution as I have tried many things to > get it to work right. IIRC all you have to do is plug in and power up the modem before you boot linux. The kernel will see it on ttyS0 and load any necessary driver. You can use 'sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf' from a terminal to confirm it was found and see which tty it's on. Then you should be able to configure you're dialer, being sure to pick /dev/ttyS0 as the device. There's a linux HOWTO covering serial port modems, if this doesn't work. HTH From lists at wordit.com Tue Oct 10 15:05:22 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:05:22 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <6c889d120610100715o3fbb351fi4bec63ebf2b1bf46@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> <6c889d120610100715o3fbb351fi4bec63ebf2b1bf46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610101705.22926.lists@wordit.com> On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:15, Billy Pollifrone wrote: > On 10/10/06, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > Is there really no reasonably simple way to copy from 1 PC to > another via removable media?? And keep ownership and rwx There's a simple way, especially good for USB sticks. I use "Unison". - Install unison and the GTK frontend unison-gtk, via synaptic or: apt-get update apt-get install unison unison-gtk - Mount the USB drive(s) and run unison-gtk. Note: If the USB drives are formatted with FAT, as I suspect they are, then run "sudo unison-gtk" (see note below). Unison will ask you to select source and destination, then show a report of the files which have changed. It's a very simple and fast way to keep backups on a USB stick, or sync files on various drives. CAUTION: This goes for any sync program (you may know from Syncback on Windows). If you edit on both drives, meaning source and destination may change, then check in which direction you are copying, especially if a file has been deleted on the source side. I would first play around with test files before using your important data. Note: Since FAT does not support all the permissions of a Linux file system, run unison as root. This is the only method I found to work properly with FAT formatted drives. Mounting with various permissions causes weird issues simply because FAT is different to EXT2/3. When using FAT and EXT2/3 drives, you may need to experiment because of the different file systems and permissions. Do some test runs first. HTH, Marcus From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 15:05:26 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:05:26 -0600 Subject: Edgy: Eth0 not setting correct MTU In-Reply-To: <200610091223.57567.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610091223.57567.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <452BB6B6.6000904@gmail.com> Richard said the following at 10/09/2006 10:23 AM : > Why is edgy not configuring eth0 correctly, > mtu's should be around 1500 > > Here is mine: > 2: eth0: mtu 576 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000 > link/ether 00:03:25:28:93:b3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff > > Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet > Controller (rev 10) > ---- > As you can see its not 1500 ( Anyone ?? ) What is at the other end of the ethernet link? And are there any devices between the two ends? And although it probably has nothing to do with anything, what command did you type to produce that output? From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 10 14:41:34 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:41:34 -0300 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> Message-ID: Orjan Sinclair wrote: > Francisco Borges wrote: >> » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:36AM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: >> >> >>> I am installing Kubuntu on a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 and basically >>> following these instructions for Ubuntu (am not going to worry about >>> Compiz etc just yet though); >>> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684&highlight=inspiron+6400 >>> >>> As can be seen the installation refers to intalling i8kutils and gkrellm >>> to control fan (something I thought was hardware based I must admit). >>> Anyone knows of a KDE replacement for gkrellm? Anyone knows if this is >>> really needed? >>> >> >> AFAIK you don't need to install a program to control the fans. >> >> I originally created this page for the Inspiron6400, and some other >> people have made a mess of it... but anyway check out this: >> >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400 >> >> (I'll try to clean this page a bit later tonight) >> >> Cheers, >> > Appreciate the input. One does however get a bit worried when these guys > claim this is very important and one talks of a burnt LCD screen. And > they are Xpensive... at least where I live. > So I installed the i8kutils and then tried to set up kfani8k from KDE > apps. Did not work at all though.... > I don't know about kfani8k, but I tried i8kutils when I first got my inspiron 6000, and it doesn't work (it really never worked for very many inspirons). My fans always work as needed. -- derek From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 15:14:35 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:14:35 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <200610101705.22926.lists@wordit.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> <6c889d120610100715o3fbb351fi4bec63ebf2b1bf46@mail.gmail.com> <200610101705.22926.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <452BB8DB.6050209@gmail.com> marcus wrote: > On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:15, Billy Pollifrone wrote: > >> On 10/10/06, Orjan Sinclair wrote: >> Is there really no reasonably simple way to copy from 1 PC to >> another via removable media?? And keep ownership and rwx >> > > There's a simple way, especially good for USB sticks. I use "Unison". > > - Install unison and the GTK frontend unison-gtk, via synaptic or: > > apt-get update > apt-get install unison unison-gtk > > - Mount the USB drive(s) and run unison-gtk. Note: If the USB drives are > formatted with FAT, as I suspect they are, then run "sudo unison-gtk" > (see note below). > > Unison will ask you to select source and destination, then show a report > of the files which have changed. It's a very simple and fast way to > keep backups on a USB stick, or sync files on various drives. > > > CAUTION: This goes for any sync program (you may know from Syncback on > Windows). If you edit on both drives, meaning source and destination > may change, then check in which direction you are copying, especially > if a file has been deleted on the source side. I would first play > around with test files before using your important data. > > Note: Since FAT does not support all the permissions of a Linux file > system, run unison as root. This is the only method I found to work > properly with FAT formatted drives. Mounting with various permissions > causes weird issues simply because FAT is different to EXT2/3. > When using FAT and EXT2/3 drives, you may need to experiment because of > the different file systems and permissions. Do some test runs first. > > > HTH, > > Marcus > > > thanks for the tip, will check it out! Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 15:19:20 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:19:20 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: References: <256f4e900609300612y138a58a4u2bcb8c7673827934@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00609301444x4487530cn7f13086237b4969@mail.gmail.com> <451FC28F.7050708@gmail.com> <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <452BB9F8.3050508@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Orjan Sinclair wrote: > > >> Francisco Borges wrote: >> >>> » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:36AM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I am installing Kubuntu on a laptop Dell Inspiron 6400 and basically >>>> following these instructions for Ubuntu (am not going to worry about >>>> Compiz etc just yet though); >>>> >>>> > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684&highlight=inspiron+6400 > >>>> As can be seen the installation refers to intalling i8kutils and gkrellm >>>> to control fan (something I thought was hardware based I must admit). >>>> Anyone knows of a KDE replacement for gkrellm? Anyone knows if this is >>>> really needed? >>>> >>>> >>> AFAIK you don't need to install a program to control the fans. >>> >>> I originally created this page for the Inspiron6400, and some other >>> people have made a mess of it... but anyway check out this: >>> >>> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron6400 >>> >>> (I'll try to clean this page a bit later tonight) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >> Appreciate the input. One does however get a bit worried when these guys >> claim this is very important and one talks of a burnt LCD screen. And >> they are Xpensive... at least where I live. >> So I installed the i8kutils and then tried to set up kfani8k from KDE >> apps. Did not work at all though.... >> >> > I don't know about kfani8k, but I tried i8kutils when I first got my > inspiron 6000, and it doesn't work (it really never worked for very many > inspirons). My fans always work as needed. > All I can say is that if I start i8kutils with modprobe (as stated in the thread) and have the values set in /etc/i8kmon and then follow the temp with KSysguard (figured that one out) then I can hear/see the fan kick in at the stated temps. And I can also see that if I don't start it then the temp will go up and up. But if I do the "daemon" thing I get headaches major with Kmix and all sorts of problems. Nevermind, for now I am OK with how it works, intend to see if I can the Kfani8K going when I have time. Sinclair From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 15:28:36 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:28:36 +0200 Subject: HP scanner In-Reply-To: <20061010005812.89817.qmail@web33511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <880dece00610090306w649290e3nf9151922351d152d@mail.gmail.com> <20061010005812.89817.qmail@web33511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610100828g2c2a9608r63756d988492ebbd@mail.gmail.com> On 10/10/06, Bry Melvin wrote: > The instructions are part of the tar.gz for the hpilp package: > > I don't have it handy where I am right now But I used the phone number on > the manual with the printer. I was told that i needed to call backsuring the > day for a Linux person. > > Alternatively I coulduse email support > > Email support directed me to HPILP at sourceforge for the Tar.gz and > instructions. > > The instructions need to be read thorughly but when you don;t try and skip > anything you'll even find ubuntu specific instructions ...down to teh > librairies from the repsitories you need > > Bryann > Thanks, I'll get right on it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/ http://simplesniff.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Oct 10 18:17:11 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:17:11 -0600 Subject: Q: adding DCOP::Amarok perl module? Message-ID: <256f4e900610101117vcfa6208j34bd236a9d775ecf@mail.gmail.com> I am trying to add the DCOP::Amarok Perl module. It doesn't seem to be in any Kubuntu repository, so I'm using the CPAN tool. Here is what I am getting: ----- [H:~] sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install DCOP::Amarok::Player' Password: CPAN: Storable loaded ok Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata Database was generated on Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:23:53 GMT Running install for module DCOP::Amarok::Player Running make for J/JC/JCMULLER/DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036.tar.gz CPAN: Digest::MD5 loaded ok Checksum for /root/.cpan/sources/authors/id/J/JC/JCMULLER/DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036.tar.gz ok Scanning cache /root/.cpan/build for sizes DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/ DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/Changes DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/Makefile.PL DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/MANIFEST DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/META.yml DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/Player.pm DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/README DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/t/ DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036/t/1.t Removing previously used /root/.cpan/build/DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036 CPAN.pm: Going to build J/JC/JCMULLER/DCOP-Amarok-Player-0.036.tar.gz Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for DCOP::Amarok::Player cp Player.pm blib/lib/DCOP/Amarok/Player.pm Manifying blib/man3/DCOP::Amarok::Player.3pm /usr/bin/make -- OK Running make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/1....ok 1/89ERROR: No active KDE sessions! If you are sure there is one, please set the $DCOPSERVER variable manually before calling dcop. t/1....NOK 4# Failed test (t/1.t at line 14) # got: '' # expected: '0' # *** Amarok needs to be open. ERROR: No active KDE sessions! If you are sure there is one, please set the $DCOPSERVER variable manually before calling dcop. t/1....NOK 5 # Failed test (t/1.t at line 16) # got: '' # expected: '0' # *** Amarok needs to be open. # Looks like you planned 89 tests but only ran 85. t/1....dubious Test returned status 6 (wstat 1536, 0x600) DIED. FAILED tests 4-5, 86-89 Failed 6/89 tests, 93.26% okay Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail Failed List of Failed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- t/1.t 6 1536 89 10 11.24% 4-5 86-89 (55 subtests UNEXPECTEDLY SUCCEEDED). Failed 1/1 test scripts, 0.00% okay. 6/89 subtests failed, 93.26% okay. make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 6 /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK Running make install make test had returned bad status, won't install without force ----- This is very consistent. Does anyone know how to fix this? FWIW, I _am_ running KDE (despite the "No active KDE sessions" comment) and I have tried running this command with amarok running, and without it running; it makes no difference to the output. $DCOPSERVER is null. I'm not sure what it's supposed to be (or why it seems not to have the right value). From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Oct 10 19:22:48 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:22:48 +0200 Subject: HP scanner In-Reply-To: <880dece00610081229v4f3172d2m844fd1a8c5afa74@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610080321m508f0a71xdd452ed9e1c65bcb@mail.gmail.com> <45292CC0.70100@rmk.co.il> <880dece00610081229v4f3172d2m844fd1a8c5afa74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452BF308.50202@rmk.co.il> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 08/10/06, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> I have an HP 4255 All-in-One Scanner/Fax/Printer. The printer >>> functions work great. How can I scan an image with the device? I've >>> never scanner in either windows or Linux. Thanks. >>> >>> Dotan Cohen >>> >>> http://english-lyrics.com/ >>> http://song-lirics.com/ >>> >> Shalom Dotan, >> >> We recently had a HP all_in_one and all that was needed to scan was to >> open 'Xsane' (it's located under 'Graphics' in the 'K' Menu). >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel > > Thanks. I open Xsame, but when I press the "scan" button on the > scanner, I get this on the scanner's lcd display: > "You need to install or run device software for feature. Press OK to continue." > > Dotan Cohen > > http://dotancohen.com/ > http://song-lirics.com/ > You will need to use Xsane to initiate the scanning rather than the 'onbard' buttons on the HP device. Blessings, Nigel P.S. Does it have 'card slots' for your digital camera memory cards? It works great for printing direct from the unit (but you still need to 'safely remove' (you will get a USB device icon on your desktop) from the desktop though. -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Oct 10 19:25:09 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:25:09 +0200 Subject: setting up a lan only ftp server? In-Reply-To: <200610081903.55475.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> References: <4527B5AF.3060207@rmk.co.il> <200610081903.55475.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <452BF395.7090209@rmk.co.il> Rafal Zawadzki wrote: > Dnia sobota, 7 października 2006 16:11, Nigel Ridley napisał: >> Up until now I have been using nfs to connect my laptop (and other >> computers on our home lan) to my main box - but it has started to become >> slow to connect. >> Anyway, I would like to be able to set up an ftp server on my main box >> so that all the computer on our home lan - AND only on our home lan - >> can connect to it. >> >> Our home lan is behind an old computer running Coyote Linux (gateway, >> router and firewall). >> What is the best way to go about it? > > You can use some ftpd server. If your mainbox is masquearading, that's all. If > you mainbox has public IP - then you can set ftp server on only lan interface > and set some iptables rules. > > If you had any questions - don't hestiate to ask. > > > Thank you. I will look into it further soon and I'm sure that I will have some questions :-) Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From gabpaul at melbpc.org.au Wed Oct 11 04:52:49 2006 From: gabpaul at melbpc.org.au (gabrielle harrison and Paul van den Bergen) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:52:49 -0000 Subject: try again... help with installing from CD with serial mouse Message-ID: Hi all, how do I install from the (X/K/Ubuntu) CD with a serial mouse? currently booting from the CD does not find the mouse, but running from e.g. tty0: $ sudo mdetect /dev/psaux intellimouse -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Chance favours the prepared mind From lists at wordit.com Wed Oct 11 05:02:22 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:02:22 +0200 Subject: Security: NFS or Samba? Message-ID: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> In the Guarddog firewall program, it states NFS as high risk, and Samba as medium risk. Is this justified? I wanted to use NFS, but securing it seems to be a lot of work. I found a very good admin tutorial. I only need this for a home network. I have a PC wired to the LAN port of a wifi DSL router, and a laptop connecting via wifi using WPA2. I'd appreciate any tips on this. Thanks, Marcus From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Wed Oct 11 05:23:14 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:23:14 -0700 Subject: Security: NFS or Samba? In-Reply-To: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> References: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <200610102223.14244.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Tuesday 10 October 2006 22:02, marcus wrote: > In the Guarddog firewall program, it states NFS as high risk, and Samba > as medium risk. Is this justified? > > I wanted to use NFS, but securing it seems to be a lot of work. I found > a very good admin tutorial. I only need this for a home network. I have a basic wireless router working as the firewall on my DSL connection. The router has no ports open for any special traffic, and I have no problems with security. Well, the ISP uses DHCP switchng IP addresses every 2 hours, and I bet that helps a good bit too. As to NFS versus Samba, I use both, as NFS works great with Linux and Unix servers, and Samba helps with Window users. As long as you have security handled by a seperate box, I would say you are fine. My network is a home network, and if you are talking about a corporate network, take these photons and toss them into /dev/null. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From billy at silverbaseball.com Wed Oct 11 07:39:56 2006 From: billy at silverbaseball.com (Billy Pollifrone) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:39:56 -0400 Subject: try again... help with installing from CD with serial mouse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6c889d120610110039n54c8466di4c180347a5eaa589@mail.gmail.com> You could install from the alternate install CD which doesn't require the mouse. On 11/6/02, gabrielle harrison and Paul van den Bergen wrote: > Hi all, > > how do I install from the (X/K/Ubuntu) CD with a serial mouse? currently > booting from the CD does not find the mouse, but running from e.g. tty0: > > $ sudo mdetect > /dev/psaux > intellimouse > > > > > > -- > Dr Paul van den Bergen > Chance favours the prepared mind > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From billy at silverbaseball.com Wed Oct 11 07:50:05 2006 From: billy at silverbaseball.com (Billy Pollifrone) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:50:05 -0400 Subject: Security: NFS or Samba? In-Reply-To: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> References: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <6c889d120610110050g717fbb9au3110b15a2ff1fb63@mail.gmail.com> On 10/11/06, marcus wrote: > In the Guarddog firewall program, it states NFS as high risk, and Samba > as medium risk. Is this justified? > > I wanted to use NFS, but securing it seems to be a lot of work. I found > a very good admin tutorial. I only need this for a home network. > > I have a PC wired to the LAN port of a wifi DSL router, and a laptop > connecting via wifi using WPA2. > > I'd appreciate any tips on this. Thanks, > I assume the DSL router has a firewall enabled, so unless you give access to the outside world to use, the NFS share, then you don't have a problem. The bigger concern is to limit the wifi, which you seem to have covered. I go further and limit my wifi access by hardware address as well myself. From dgvirtual at akl.lt Wed Oct 11 07:52:09 2006 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:52:09 +0300 Subject: connect two computers for file sharing Message-ID: <200610111052.10003.dgvirtual@akl.lt> How do I connect two computers for file transfer under kubuntu dapper? They both have lan cards and I can connect them using a lan cable, but after that - I am lost :) First I guess I have to assign both computers manual IPs, and then? What packages should I install to make full use of the KDE built in file sharing (I mean, the System settings module Sharing > file sharing and the options that become available upon selecting Properties of a directory in a konqueror window... Is there a howto about this anywhere? -- Donatas Glodenis http://dg.lapas.info From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 07:54:07 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:54:07 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu on Dell Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <256f4e900610071410t6458938ci80485a98fc54a6ff@mail.gmail.com> <4529EDF1.1010102@gmail.com> <20061009135352.GD29511@let.rug.nl> <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <452CA31F.9020303@gmail.com> Francisco Borges wrote: > » On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 06:13PM +0200, O. Sinclair wrote: > > >> Hi, >> correctly I have the ATI card in this one (915 in another and that one gets >> HOT and I have only now discovered this possible problem. One thing at a >> time...) >> >> As for any applets for this cpu temp I am yet to find one that works... as >> you can see in original thread guys in Gnome use Gkrellm (works in KDE too >> but is not to my taste - too intrusive) or TKapplet for Gnome pane >> > > Turns out that KSysGuard can also show the temperature, though by > default it will adapt the scale; so you beter set it to some number, in > order to make the graph meaningful. > > [...] > > My computer had throttling on, but indeed it was getting hot (60C), and > the fans were not kicking apparently. If this is /too/ hot, is something > I couldn't determine but would love to know. > > There is something wrong with the latest 2.6.17, the CPU just keeps > getting active. With 2.6.15 CPUs behave as expected. > > I did: > > % modprobe i8k force=1 > > without force it won't load, and then I could set fan state using > i8kctl. Temperature now is totally stable at 25C (well I'm not doing > anything except typing this email....) > > I also found this: > > 1. COMPLETE HOW TO: Dell Inspiron 6400 > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=257684 > > 2. Setting the i8kctl to run as daemon and how to configure it: > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1325507&postcount=128 > > [...] > > I still need to check (if there are) BIOS settings for temperature > threshold for the fan. I expect these to exist... > > Cheers, > Francesco, is there a way of getting the KSysguard panel applet to integrate the temperature-meter? I have tried but it only shows the 2 "predefined" no matter what I try with my a bit "oldtimer coming back to *nix" knowledge. Sinclair From newslists at resrequest.com Wed Oct 11 08:35:14 2006 From: newslists at resrequest.com (Richard Howes) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:35:14 +0200 Subject: Viewing multi part tif images Message-ID: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> Hi All, I have a fax to email number. the images come in as .tif files. In The Gimp I can see the first page of the fax. If I open it in Gwenview I can see the last page. The other pages I can't see at all (and neither of the above two apps indicate that there are more than one page). I have tried kfax and kfaxview but the former shows "noise" and the latter says the .tif file is not a fax image. Any ideas? Thanks Cheers Richard -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From maye.co at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 09:06:02 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (M4y3c0) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 04:06:02 -0500 Subject: Flash Player and firefox In-Reply-To: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610110406.06776.maye.co@gmail.com> Hiii guys, when I try to put the mouse in the flash menu my firefox crash horrible, Is just me or something is wrong? this -> http://www.abi.s5.com/ MY -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, it is possible. > I have tried but it only shows the 2 "predefined" no matter what I try > with my a bit "oldtimer coming back to *nix" knowledge. This is how you do it: Step 0. Add an ksysguard applet to your panel. ======================== Step 1. Get an empty display; Go to the ksysguard applet corner (that little bar on the left of it). "Right click" -> "Configure SysGuard". Set the "number of displays" to 3. OR Right click on one display at the panel applet directly, say CPU, and "remove display". Either way you should have an empty display at the applet. ======================= Step 2. Open KSysGuard (the program). Find the temperature sensor at the sensor browser (at the left), and drag & drop it into the empty display. You will then be asked how you want it displayed etc (you can change that later). Cheers, -- Francisco From melanie.t23 at ukonline.co.uk Wed Oct 11 12:49:37 2006 From: melanie.t23 at ukonline.co.uk (Melanie) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:49:37 +0100 Subject: Flash Player and firefox In-Reply-To: <200610110834.22259.leomcabral@gmail.com> References: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610110406.06776.maye.co@gmail.com> <200610110834.22259.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610111349.37567.melanie.t23@ukonline.co.uk> On Wednesday 11 Oct 2006 12:34, Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: " Em Quarta 11 Outubro 2006 06:06, M4y3c0 escreveu: " > Hiii guys, " > when I try to put the mouse " > in the flash menu my firefox crash " > horrible, " > Is just me or something is wrong? " > this -> http://www.abi.s5.com/ " > MY " " It crashed my firefox too, maybe the problems is with flash. This site " http://www.abi.s5.com probably was build with flash 9 and linux only have 7.0 " Works fine for me in Mandriva with Firefox 1.5.0.6 and Shockwave Flash 7.0r63 Melanie From piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it Wed Oct 11 13:24:24 2006 From: piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it (Piero Ottuzzi) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:24:24 +0200 Subject: Flash Player and firefox In-Reply-To: <200610110406.06776.maye.co@gmail.com> References: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610110406.06776.maye.co@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610111524.28793.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Hi there, it crashes here too. Maybe you can open a bug in Launchpad. 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Add an ksysguard applet to your panel. > > ======================== > > Step 1. Get an empty display; > > Go to the ksysguard applet corner (that little bar on the left of it). > "Right click" -> "Configure SysGuard". Set the "number of displays" to > 3. > > OR > > Right click on one display at the panel applet directly, say CPU, > and "remove display". > > Either way you should have an empty display at the applet. > > ======================= > > > Step 2. Open KSysGuard (the program). Find the temperature sensor at the > sensor browser (at the left), and drag & drop it into the empty > display. > > You will then be asked how you want it displayed etc (you can change > that later). > > Cheers, > So simple I humbly blush once you described it - -and works perfect to ! Thanx! Btw - have you tried using the modem? Sinclair From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Oct 11 16:36:03 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:36:03 -0700 Subject: Flash Player and firefox References: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610110406.06776.maye.co@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8764eqrerw.fsf@fjellstad.org> M4y3c0 writes: > when I try to put the mouse > in the flash menu my firefox crash > horrible, > Is just me or something is wrong? > this -> http://www.abi.s5.com/ Works fine here, Kubuntu Dapper -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From brymelvin at melvinart.com Wed Oct 11 17:33:33 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Flash Player and firefox In-Reply-To: <200610111524.28793.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Message-ID: <20061011173333.79684.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Piero Ottuzzi wrote: Hi there, it crashes here too. Maybe you can open a bug in Launchpad. Bye Piero Alle 11:06, mercoledì 11 ottobre 2006, M4y3c0 ha scritto: > Hiii guys, > when I try to put the mouse > in the flash menu my firefox crash > horrible, > Is just me or something is wrong? > this -> http://www.abi.s5.com/ > MY -- GPG KeyID: 84AE988E Fingerprint: F0A0 CA2A 8D8F CC12 3F5E C04C D8D5 9DC3 84AE 988E gpg --keyserver x-hkp://search.keyserver.net:11371 --recv-key 84AE988E -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Works here: and I'm on Xubuntu, current updates, and even on a pentium 166 I am using temporarily as I had a computer die.... Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I found these sample commands for Thunderbird and Evolution, but not for Kmail: Sample from command line for Thunderbird: mozilla-thunderbird -mail -compose "subject=Pictures,attachment='file:///tmp/a.jpg,file:///tmp/b.jpg'" Sample from command line for Evolution: evolution-2.4 mailto:?subject=Pictures\&attach=/tmp/a.jpg\&attach=/tmp/b.jpg Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://auto-car.info/ From bonedu at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 19:31:25 2006 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:31:25 +0200 Subject: Flash Player and firefox In-Reply-To: <20061011173333.79684.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <200610111524.28793.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> <20061011173333.79684.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3e192e060610111231w57b00e3md4789707c5eb9991@mail.gmail.com> It crashes too. Using linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic in an AMD Turion 64x2 2006/10/11, Bry Melvin : > > > > *Piero Ottuzzi * wrote: > > Hi there, > > it crashes here too. > Maybe you can open a bug in Launchpad. > > Bye > Piero > > Alle 11:06, mercoledì 11 ottobre 2006, M4y3c0 ha scritto: > > Hiii guys, > > when I try to put the mouse > > in the flash menu my firefox crash > > horrible, > > Is just me or something is wrong? > > this -> http://www.abi.s5.com/ > > MY > > -- > GPG KeyID: 84AE988E > Fingerprint: F0A0 CA2A 8D8F CC12 3F5E C04C D8D5 9DC3 84AE 988E > gpg --keyserver x-hkp://search.keyserver.net:11371 --recv-key 84AE988E > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Works here: and I'm on Xubuntu, current updates, and even on a pentium 166 > I am using temporarily as I had a computer die.... > > Bryann > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maye.co at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 20:23:54 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (M4y3c0) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:23:54 -0500 Subject: Sending pictures via Kmail In-Reply-To: <880dece00610111140i6243f270l10884d49f93d71b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610111140i6243f270l10884d49f93d71b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610111523.57823.maye.co@gmail.com> Hiii dude, try this kmail --body "HOLA, te mando un attach..." --attach /path/to/your/file.exe MY El Miércoles, 11 de Octubre de 2006 1:40 PM, Dotan Cohen escribió: > i'd like to be able to send photos with F-Spot via Kmail. However, > when I select Send Mail, the new email window has no attachments. What > is the command for sending emails with Kmail? I found these sample > commands for Thunderbird and Evolution, but not for Kmail: > > Sample from command line for Thunderbird: > mozilla-thunderbird -mail -compose > "subject=Pictures,attachment='file:///tmp/a.jpg,file:///tmp/b.jpg'" > > Sample from command line for Evolution: > evolution-2.4 mailto:?subject=Pictures\&attach=/tmp/a.jpg\&attach=/tmp/b.jpg > > Dotan Cohen > > http://lyricslist.com/ > http://auto-car.info/ > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Garbowski) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:46:00 +0100 Subject: Viewing multi part tif images In-Reply-To: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610111035.14446.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <452D5808.2060202@yahoo.co.uk> On 10/11/2006 09:35 AM, Richard Howes wrote: > Hi All, > > I have a fax to email number. the images come in as .tif files. In The Gimp I > can see the first page of the fax. If I open it in Gwenview I can see the > last page. The other pages I can't see at all (and neither of the above two > apps indicate that there are more than one page). > > I have tried kfax and kfaxview but the former shows "noise" and the latter > says the .tif file is not a fax image. > > Any ideas? Can't tell if this will work for sure but try ImageMagick, a command line utility. See www.imagemagick.org for more info. Good luck! Dariusz Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 21:09:01 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:09:01 +0200 Subject: HP scanner In-Reply-To: <452BF308.50202@rmk.co.il> References: <880dece00610080321m508f0a71xdd452ed9e1c65bcb@mail.gmail.com> <45292CC0.70100@rmk.co.il> <880dece00610081229v4f3172d2m844fd1a8c5afa74@mail.gmail.com> <452BF308.50202@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <880dece00610111409i24c53f7egdcb33f28ea575e7f@mail.gmail.com> On 10/10/06, Nigel Ridley wrote: > You will need to use Xsane to initiate the scanning rather than the > 'onbard' buttons on the HP device. Thanks, good to know. > P.S. Does it have 'card slots' for your digital camera memory cards? It > works great for printing direct from the unit (but you still need to > 'safely remove' (you will get a USB device icon on your desktop) from > the desktop though. No, no slots for cards. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/ http://simplesniff.com/ From leomcabral at gmail.com Wed Oct 11 21:35:03 2006 From: leomcabral at gmail.com (Leonardo de Miranda Cabral) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:35:03 -0300 Subject: Flash Player and firefox In-Reply-To: <20061012091923.64e4cb3c@timewheel.corn> References: <200610111524.28793.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> <3e192e060610111231w57b00e3md4789707c5eb9991@mail.gmail.com> <20061012091923.64e4cb3c@timewheel.corn> Message-ID: <200610111835.06382.leomcabral@gmail.com> Em Quarta 11 Outubro 2006 17:19, Rebel Lion escreveu: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:31:25 +0200 > > "Eduard Bonet" wrote: > > It crashes too. > > > > Using linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic in an AMD Turion 64x2 > > > > > > > > 2006/10/11, Bry Melvin : > > No problems here ubuntu dapper. However I did install my flash plugin > from the tar.gz from the adobe website. Maybe this is the difference. Maybe not, I instaled from tar.gz too, but it crashed -- ---------------------------------- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lists at wordit.com Thu Oct 12 01:54:48 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:54:48 +0200 Subject: Security: NFS or Samba? In-Reply-To: <6c889d120610110050g717fbb9au3110b15a2ff1fb63@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> <6c889d120610110050g717fbb9au3110b15a2ff1fb63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610120354.48304.lists@wordit.com> On Wednesday 11 October 2006 09:50, Billy Pollifrone wrote: > I assume the DSL router has a firewall enabled, so unless you give > access to the outside world to use, the NFS share, then you don't > have a problem. Yes, the DSL router's firewall is enabled. Does this mean I don't need to set any firewall rules on the PC hosting the NFS shares? I guess I would allow NFS (and NIS?) access in the local zone? > The bigger concern is to limit the wifi, which you > seem to have covered. I go further and limit my wifi access by > hardware address as well myself. Do you mean the MAC address? I did enable that and added the laptop to the list. However, I read on some other Linux forum (old thread) that it's easy to find the MAC addresses being used and then spoof them, i.e. an outsider can broadcast a valid MAC address. Any more info on that? Marcus From daniel at rimspace.net Thu Oct 12 03:44:10 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:44:10 +1000 Subject: Security: NFS or Samba? References: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> <6c889d120610110050g717fbb9au3110b15a2ff1fb63@mail.gmail.com> <200610120354.48304.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <87zmc2nqph.fsf@rimspace.net> marcus writes: > On Wednesday 11 October 2006 09:50, Billy Pollifrone wrote: >> I assume the DSL router has a firewall enabled, so unless you give >> access to the outside world to use, the NFS share, then you don't >> have a problem. > > Yes, the DSL router's firewall is enabled. > > Does this mean I don't need to set any firewall rules on the PC hosting > the NFS shares? I guess I would allow NFS (and NIS?) access in the > local zone? > >> The bigger concern is to limit the wifi, which you seem to have >> covered. I go further and limit my wifi access by hardware address as >> well myself. > > Do you mean the MAC address? I did enable that and added the laptop > to the list. However, I read on some other Linux forum (old thread) > that it's easy to find the MAC addresses being used and then spoof > them, i.e. an outsider can broadcast a valid MAC address. Any more > info on that? That is essentially true. It will prevent casual attacks and, for most people, that is enough to make some other attack (like, say, breaking in and stealing your computer) less costly than someone trying to break through the MAC filter. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From jeremy at jdli.net Thu Oct 12 04:17:02 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:17:02 -0400 Subject: Security: NFS or Samba? In-Reply-To: <200610120354.48304.lists@wordit.com> References: <200610110702.22903.lists@wordit.com> <6c889d120610110050g717fbb9au3110b15a2ff1fb63@mail.gmail.com> <200610120354.48304.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <200610120017.02825.jeremy@jdli.net> My two cents. The thing about security works the same if you are talking computers, life, house, dog, etc... the harder you make things to steal, the less likely someone is going to try. Nothing is ever foolproof but if you have data or bandwidth worth stealing put up as many roadblocks as you can. Jeremy On Wednesday 11 October 2006 21:54, marcus wrote: > On Wednesday 11 October 2006 09:50, Billy Pollifrone wrote: > > I assume the DSL router has a firewall enabled, so unless you give > > access to the outside world to use, the NFS share, then you don't > > have a problem. > > Yes, the DSL router's firewall is enabled. > > Does this mean I don't need to set any firewall rules on the PC hosting > the NFS shares? I guess I would allow NFS (and NIS?) access in the > local zone? > > > The bigger concern is to limit the wifi, which you > > seem to have covered. I go further and limit my wifi access by > > hardware address as well myself. > > Do you mean the MAC address? > I did enable that and added the laptop to the list. However, I read on > some other Linux forum (old thread) that it's easy to find the MAC > addresses being used and then spoof them, i.e. an outsider can > broadcast a valid MAC address. > Any more info on that? > > Marcus From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 07:09:36 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:09:36 +0200 Subject: Sending pictures via Kmail In-Reply-To: <200610111523.57823.maye.co@gmail.com> References: <880dece00610111140i6243f270l10884d49f93d71b2@mail.gmail.com> <200610111523.57823.maye.co@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610120009i30d2a2efm6a9a8f2e11388174@mail.gmail.com> On 11/10/06, M4y3c0 wrote: > Hiii dude, > try this > kmail --body "HOLA, te mando un attach..." --attach /path/to/your/file.exe > MY > > > El Miércoles, 11 de Octubre de 2006 1:40 PM, Dotan Cohen escribió: > > i'd like to be able to send photos with F-Spot via Kmail. However, > > when I select Send Mail, the new email window has no attachments. What > > is the command for sending emails with Kmail? I found these sample > > commands for Thunderbird and Evolution, but not for Kmail: > > > > Sample from command line for Thunderbird: > > mozilla-thunderbird -mail -compose > > "subject=Pictures,attachment='file:///tmp/a.jpg,file:///tmp/b.jpg'" > > > > Sample from command line for Evolution: > > evolution-2.4 mailto:?subject=Pictures\&attach=/tmp/a.jpg\&attach=/tmp/b.jpg Thanks, that's the command. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 09:04:51 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:04:51 +0200 Subject: Adding RAM Message-ID: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> As my 1.2 AMD Duron box with 512MB (256 * 2) of RAM seemed overworked with both Gnome and KDE apps open, I swapped the RAM to 1 GB (512 * 2). Now, the machine seems even slower. Anything that I must do when changing RAM? Should I reinstall Kubuntu? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/ http://english-lyrics.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 09:58:23 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:58:23 +0200 Subject: Using Fuji 5500 as webcam Message-ID: <880dece00610120258n7d2fd5a0o555feaa0bfa26748@mail.gmail.com> What must I do to use my Fuji 5500 as a webcam? camstream does not recognise it, even though in the camera's options I set it as a WebCam when connected via USB. Camstream recognises my Logitech camera perfectly. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://simplesniff.com/ http://auto-car.info/ From f.borges at rug.nl Thu Oct 12 10:11:36 2006 From: f.borges at rug.nl (Francisco Borges) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:11:36 +0200 Subject: Modem Inspiron 6400 - was Re: SysGuard to show temperature In-Reply-To: <452CF61B.2050605@gmail.com> References: <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452CA31F.9020303@gmail.com> <20061011122243.GA4889@let.rug.nl> <452CF61B.2050605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061012101136.GA7481@let.rug.nl> » On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 03:48PM +0200, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > > You will then be asked how you want it displayed etc (you can change > > that later). > > > So simple I humbly blush once you described it - -and works perfect to ! > Thanx! Glad to hear it helped you. > Btw - have you tried using the modem? No, I haven't. I tried to use the WiFi once, and couldn't get it to work. -- Francisco From maye.co at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 10:50:58 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (M4y3c0) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:50:58 -0500 Subject: Adding RAM In-Reply-To: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610120551.02410.maye.co@gmail.com> the 512 are from diferent marcs? maybe is that... happend in my pc MY El Jueves, 12 de Octubre de 2006 4:04 AM, Dotan Cohen escribió: > As my 1.2 AMD Duron box with 512MB (256 * 2) of RAM seemed overworked > with both Gnome and KDE apps open, I swapped the RAM to 1 GB (512 * > 2). Now, the machine seems even slower. Anything that I must do when > changing RAM? Should I reinstall Kubuntu? 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I tried to use the WiFi once, and couldn't get it to > work. > > I have no problems with the WiFi whatsoever "out of the box". Got the Intel Wireless. Modem seems not to be working according to Linuxant... "use a newer kernel". Hm. Sinclair From haroldh at midmaine.com Thu Oct 12 11:46:32 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:46:32 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo Message-ID: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> Does anyone know if ubuntu/kubuntu will keep the name firefox with its original logo or are they going to change the name to iceweasel like debian is doing. I hope they leave the name firefox with the logo thats suppose to be with it. Right now the firefox on dapper does not have the right logo thats suppose to be with firefox. If they do change it, then I guess I'll have to download the source code and compile it as a deb file to install on my kubuntu so it will work with the other apps too. Harold From haroldh at midmaine.com Thu Oct 12 11:47:47 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:47:47 -0400 Subject: kde 3.5.5 Message-ID: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> I see the newer kde is out and wondering when kubuntu will have it ready to update for the dapper version or will they have us wait til edgy comes out. Harold From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Thu Oct 12 12:03:57 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:03:57 +0200 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <20061012120357.GA26074@jabberpl.org> On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 07:47:47AM -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > I see the newer kde is out and wondering when kubuntu will have it ready > to update for the dapper version or will they have us wait til edgy > comes out. > > Harold http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php -- http://glam.pl http://bluszcz.jogger.pl http://bluszcz.jabberpl.org From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 12:30:13 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (Orjan Sinclair) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:30:13 +0200 Subject: USB device problems In-Reply-To: <20061012120357.GA26074@jabberpl.org> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <20061012120357.GA26074@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <452E3555.3060701@gmail.com> I have this really weird problem with usb devices since a couple of days. I can use things like mouse and so on via usb with no problems. But any memory device such as flash or even a camera comes up with no read access! If I go root via Krusader or a root konsole I can see in my /media folder that the device (normally sdb1, sda1 and 2 are disk partitions) is read/write for the owner, being me, and forbidden for all else! I have tried to change settings to read/write for owner (and change to root) and read/write for group (and change to plugdev) but nothing happens. Any input and ideas appreciated, as always, Sinclair From gcarst at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 12:38:32 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:38:32 +0200 Subject: Adding RAM In-Reply-To: <200610120551.02410.maye.co@gmail.com> References: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> <200610120551.02410.maye.co@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2006/10/12, M4y3c0 : > > the 512 are from diferent marcs? > maybe is that... happend in my pc or different speed ? /gunner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From haroldh at midmaine.com Thu Oct 12 13:18:44 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:18:44 -0400 Subject: threaded topics Message-ID: <452E40B4.2090202@midmaine.com> I'd like to know why people issist on keep on the same thread, but changing the topic and article with something else that don't even apply to the actual thread to begin with. Harold From gcarst at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 13:20:58 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:20:58 +0200 Subject: Adding RAM In-Reply-To: <880dece00610120603s90af6f6l1ed1fb62daf22b6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> <200610120551.02410.maye.co@gmail.com> <880dece00610120603s90af6f6l1ed1fb62daf22b6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2006/10/12, Dotan Cohen : > > On 12/10/06, M4y3c0 wrote: > > the 512 are from diferent marcs? > > maybe is that... happend in my pc > > MY > > No, they came out of a working PC- an OE Dell. They are identical. Try to run a: cat /proc/meminfo to see how much you have in use.. Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/ > http://essentialinux.com/ > > -- > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitchthompson at satx.rr.com Thu Oct 12 14:00:35 2006 From: mitchthompson at satx.rr.com (Mitch Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:00:35 -0500 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <452E4A83.1020906@satx.rr.com> Harold Hartley wrote: >I see the newer kde is out and wondering when kubuntu will have it ready >to update for the dapper version or will they have us wait til edgy >comes out. > >Harold > > > > I upgraded Dapper/AMD64 this morning, but had a problem with kdenetwork. A manual attempt showed this: mitch at colossus:~$ sudo apt-get install kdenetwork Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdenetwork: Depends: kopete (>= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages So, until the 3.5.5 version of Kopete is released, I can't install kdenetwork... -- “People constantly speak of ‘the government’ doing this or that, as they might speak of God doing it. But the government is really nothing but a group of men, and usually they are very inferior men.” —H. L. Mencken From mitchthompson at satx.rr.com Thu Oct 12 14:01:40 2006 From: mitchthompson at satx.rr.com (Mitch Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:01:40 -0500 Subject: threaded topics In-Reply-To: <452E40B4.2090202@midmaine.com> References: <452E40B4.2090202@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <452E4AC4.50907@satx.rr.com> Harold Hartley wrote: >I'd like to know why people issist on keep on the same thread, but >changing the topic and article with something else that don't even apply >to the actual thread to begin with. > >Harold > > > > Essentially, it's either ignorance or apathy... -- “People constantly speak of ‘the government’ doing this or that, as they might speak of God doing it. But the government is really nothing but a group of men, and usually they are very inferior men.” —H. L. Mencken From f.borges at rug.nl Thu Oct 12 13:57:35 2006 From: f.borges at rug.nl (Francisco Borges) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:57:35 +0200 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <20061012135735.GA8262@let.rug.nl> » On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 07:46AM -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > Does anyone know if ubuntu/kubuntu will keep the name firefox with its > original logo or are they going to change the name to iceweasel like > debian is doing. AFAIK this is still being discussed at the Ubuntu devel list. An interesting bug to be brought up at this moment ;-) https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/64844 -- Francisco From angusprune at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 13:58:07 2006 From: angusprune at gmail.com (Angus Prune) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:58:07 +0100 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> The firefox logo and name are the property of the Mozilla Foundation and non-free. I woud assume, since *buntu does not use the non-free artwork it is because it would be against their policy to do so. If this is the case I would assume it would be very unlikely that *buntu will adopt the non-free artwork, so we are stuck with the generic logo unless someone produces a better free version. The name Iceweasel was adopted by Debian because Mozilla revoked their right to use the name Firefox without the accompanying artwork. Debian has had no choice but to change the name. If Mozilla decide to enforce the same decision in regard to *buntu than we may have little choice but to adopt the name Iceweasel aswell. Personally I think it would be detrimental to both Firefox and *buntu if we were forced to stop using the name. I've never had to install firefox on linux, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't an *buntu .deb out there for it somewhere, non-free artwork and original name and everything. James On 12/10/06, Harold Hartley wrote: > Does anyone know if ubuntu/kubuntu will keep the name firefox with its > original logo or are they going to change the name to iceweasel like > debian is doing. > I hope they leave the name firefox with the logo thats suppose to be > with it. > Right now the firefox on dapper does not have the right logo thats > suppose to be with firefox. > > If they do change it, then I guess I'll have to download the source code > and compile it as a deb file to install on my kubuntu so it will work > with the other apps too. From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Thu Oct 12 14:09:35 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:09:35 +0200 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <452E4A83.1020906@satx.rr.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <452E4A83.1020906@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:00:35AM -0500, Mitch Thompson wrote: > Harold Hartley wrote: > > >I see the newer kde is out and wondering when kubuntu will have it ready > >to update for the dapper version or will they have us wait til edgy > >comes out. > > > >Harold > > > > > > > > > I upgraded Dapper/AMD64 this morning, but had a problem with kdenetwork. > A manual attempt showed this: > > mitch at colossus:~$ sudo apt-get install kdenetwork > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against > that package should be filed. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > kdenetwork: Depends: kopete (>= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not > going to be installed > E: Broken packages > > > So, until the 3.5.5 version of Kopete is released, I can't install > kdenetwork... Maybe it happened because you used not full mirrored source? -- http://glam.pl From jjesse at iserv.net Thu Oct 12 14:11:02 2006 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Why can i not picutre myself supporting a user and saying: "Now open up Iceweasel and browse to this page..." Or something similiar. Come on guys at Mozilla, get your act together this is just plain stupid -- Jonathan Jesse From mitchthompson at satx.rr.com Thu Oct 12 14:39:32 2006 From: mitchthompson at satx.rr.com (Mitch Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:39:32 -0500 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <452E4A83.1020906@satx.rr.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <452E53A4.1070309@satx.rr.com> bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > > >Maybe it happened because you used not full mirrored source? > > > I dunno, is us.archive.ubunu.com not a full mirrored source? Your response implies that kopete is available for 3.5.5...is that true? -- “People constantly speak of ‘the government’ doing this or that, as they might speak of God doing it. But the government is really nothing but a group of men, and usually they are very inferior men.” —H. L. Mencken From mitchthompson at satx.rr.com Thu Oct 12 14:41:36 2006 From: mitchthompson at satx.rr.com (Mitch Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:41:36 -0500 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <452E4A83.1020906@satx.rr.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > >Maybe it happened because you used not full mirrored source? > > > I apologize, I mis-typed. I was using deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main for my source. -- “People constantly speak of ‘the government’ doing this or that, as they might speak of God doing it. But the government is really nothing but a group of men, and usually they are very inferior men.” —H. L. Mencken From johndecarlo at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 14:38:03 2006 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:38:03 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/06, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Why can i not picutre myself supporting a user and saying: "Now open up > Iceweasel and browse to this page..." Or something similiar. Come on > guys at Mozilla, get your act together this is just plain stupid It gets somewhat complicated. I don't think Mozilla is to blame here, though. The Debian package maintainer decided awhile back to use the non-free name "Firefox" but not the non-free logo. And broke some of the compiling rules. And wouldn't agree to the reviews needed by Mozilla to ensure changes made make sense. Red Hat and Novell, as big players, worked with Mozilla to start doing this awhile ago. Personally, I don't really care about this disagreement. I have been complaining for years that Linux distributions make all kinds of arbitrary changes to packages like Firefox, which inevitably breaks something or other. I think the user community should stand up and say - we want the real Firefox, not some bizarro-world version put out by Debian, Ubuntu, X, Y, or Z. Then maybe someone would set up a Debian-style apt repository with the real versions that we could use. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Oct 12 14:42:36 2006 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:42:36 +0100 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <452E53A4.1070309@satx.rr.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <452E4A83.1020906@satx.rr.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> <452E53A4.1070309@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <20061012154236.436929d8.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:39:32 -0500 Mitch Thompson wrote: MT> bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: MT> MT> > MT> > MT> >Maybe it happened because you used not full mirrored source? MT> > MT> > MT> > MT> MT> I dunno, is us.archive.ubunu.com not a full mirrored source? MT> MT> Your response implies that kopete is available for 3.5.5...is that MT> true? MT> Possibly just not caught up -- I saw that the mirrorservice.org mirror has no files yet in toys, utils, develop and a few others. James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 14:45:11 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:45:11 +0200 Subject: Adding RAM In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> <200610120551.02410.maye.co@gmail.com> <880dece00610120603s90af6f6l1ed1fb62daf22b6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610120745h5fcb0444p3c801d2d27baf566@mail.gmail.com> On 12/10/06, Gunner wrote: > Try to run a: > cat /proc/meminfo > > to see how much you have in use.. dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 1002168 kB MemFree: 17528 kB Buffers: 110996 kB Cached: 657812 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 362684 kB Inactive: 569856 kB HighTotal: 98240 kB HighFree: 132 kB LowTotal: 903928 kB LowFree: 17396 kB SwapTotal: 1413648 kB SwapFree: 1413648 kB Dirty: 116 kB Writeback: 0 kB Mapped: 230896 kB Slab: 40876 kB CommitLimit: 1914732 kB Committed_AS: 384764 kB PageTables: 1904 kB VmallocTotal: 114680 kB VmallocUsed: 4964 kB VmallocChunk: 109348 kB What is 'inactive' and 'dirty' memory? Should I be concerned with that? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/ http://english-lyrics.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From liz at kandew.com Thu Oct 12 15:02:11 2006 From: liz at kandew.com (Liz Young) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:02:11 -0700 Subject: [kde3.5.5] kprinter "connection to cups server failed" Message-ID: <200610120802.11939.liz@kandew.com> Hi list, Since upgrading to 3.5.5, opening kde print manager shows "initializing manager" and then; "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: localhost: read failed (15)." lo is up: # ifconfig | grep lo lo Link encap:Local Loopback and cups is set to listen on :631 # cat /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf Listen localhost:631 #Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock and here it is listening: # netstat -nlp | grep cups tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 10176/cupsd Any hints? Thanks, -Liz From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Oct 12 15:05:01 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:05:01 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121105.01265.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 09:58, Angus Prune wrote: > The firefox logo and name are the property of the Mozilla Foundation > and non-free. I woud assume, since *buntu does not use the non-free > artwork it is because it would be against their policy to do so. You know what they say about ASSuming... From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Oct 12 15:06:48 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:06:48 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 10:38, John DeCarlo wrote: > I think the user community should stand up and say - we want the real > Firefox, not some bizarro-world version put out by Debian, Ubuntu, X, > Y, or Z. You live on bizzarro world I think. Distributors are encouraged to add their own links, etc. to applications to make it feel more "customized". It's not like you are being tricked. Give me a break. Please, stop armchair quarterbacking here. From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Oct 12 15:09:49 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:09:49 -0400 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200610121109.49968.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 07:47, Harold Hartley wrote: > I see the newer kde is out and wondering when kubuntu will have it ready > to update for the dapper version or will they have us wait til edgy > comes out. One thing I love doing before posting to a mailing list...actually checking the source for this kind of news... http://www.kubuntu.org/ From gene.heskett at verizon.net Thu Oct 12 15:22:13 2006 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:22:13 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <452E5DA5.7080607@verizon.net> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > Why can i not picutre myself supporting a user and saying: "Now open up > Iceweasel and browse to this page..." Or something similiar. Come on > guys at Mozilla, get your act together this is just plain stupid My thoughts exactly. Come on debian, what the hell is the big deal with using the mozilla supplied artwork intact? Inquiring minds would like to know. -- Cheers, Gene From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Oct 12 15:34:21 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:34:21 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452E5DA5.7080607@verizon.net> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <452E5DA5.7080607@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200610121134.21441.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 11:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > Why can i not picutre myself supporting a user and saying: "Now open up > > Iceweasel and browse to this page..." Or something similiar. Come on > > guys at Mozilla, get your act together this is just plain stupid > > My thoughts exactly. Come on debian, what the hell is the big deal with > using the mozilla supplied artwork intact? Inquiring minds would like > to know. Because annoying mailing list people and GNU folks need things to argue about and destroy momentum for "correctness" of editing logos. This is why these people are never going to be heading up anything remotely useful, because they get bogged down in tiny righteousness details. From haroldh at midmaine.com Thu Oct 12 15:38:05 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:38:05 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452E5DA5.7080607@verizon.net> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <452E5DA5.7080607@verizon.net> Message-ID: <452E615D.3030703@midmaine.com> Gene Heskett wrote: > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > >> Why can i not picutre myself supporting a user and saying: "Now open up >> Iceweasel and browse to this page..." Or something similiar. Come on >> guys at Mozilla, get your act together this is just plain stupid >> > > My thoughts exactly. Come on debian, what the hell is the big deal with > using the mozilla supplied artwork intact? Inquiring minds would like > to know. > > I just feel that debian is to political. I find that Ubuntu/Kubuntu is not as political as debian. Harold From henrigira at numericable.fr Thu Oct 12 15:40:15 2006 From: henrigira at numericable.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:40:15 +0200 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610121109.49968.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610121109.49968.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: even for edgy you can get it : deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main when i saw dapper having it and not edgy ... i was wondering if it wasn't possible and it is !!! thanks to those who do it ! Henri On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:09:49 +0200, Brendan wrote: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 07:47, Harold Hartley wrote: >> I see the newer kde is out and wondering when kubuntu will have it ready >> to update for the dapper version or will they have us wait til edgy >> comes out. > > One thing I love doing before posting to a mailing list...actually > checking > the source for this kind of news... > > http://www.kubuntu.org/ > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From rlp1938 at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 15:40:42 2006 From: rlp1938 at gmail.com (Robert Parker) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:40:42 +0700 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452E5DA5.7080607@verizon.net> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <452E5DA5.7080607@verizon.net> Message-ID: <8f6eb7340610120840k7eea21eava77eaebb86edf1dd@mail.gmail.com> My thoughts, On 10/12/06, Gene Heskett wrote: > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > > My thoughts exactly. Come on debian, what the hell is the big deal with > using the mozilla supplied artwork intact? Inquiring minds would like > to know. A few years ago I joined the Debian developers mailing list to learn about it with a view to being a Debian developer. After 6 months of reading the anal stupidity that goes on there I decided that the Debian project could do without me. Of course the majority of the guys are tops, but the idiots seemed to have the floor at the time. Bob -- On any list, if X is the bandwidth wasted on off-topic posts, NX is the bandwidth wasted on discussing the evils of off-topic posts where 5 <= N <= 10. From liz at kandew.com Thu Oct 12 15:44:41 2006 From: liz at kandew.com (Liz Young) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:44:41 -0700 Subject: [kde3.5.5] kprinter "connection to cups server failed" SOLVED In-Reply-To: <200610120802.11939.liz@kandew.com> References: <200610120802.11939.liz@kandew.com> Message-ID: <200610120844.41563.liz@kandew.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 08:02, Liz Young wrote: > Hi list, > > "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from > manager: Lame to be answering my own post, but it's already in Launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/65665 "...changing the cups server from localhost to 127.0.0.1 in the print configuration dialog of kprinter fixes the problem (system options => cups server => host). No more connection errors..." Yep, that works. No goat sacrificed. :-) From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 16:11:15 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:11:15 -0500 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200610121111.15260.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 10:06 am, Brendan wrote: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 10:38, John DeCarlo wrote: > > I think the user community should stand up and say - we want the real > > Firefox, not some bizarro-world version put out by Debian, Ubuntu, X, > > Y, or Z. > > You live on bizzarro world I think. Distributors are encouraged to add > their own links, etc. to applications to make it feel more "customized". > It's not like you are being tricked. Give me a break. Please, stop armchair > quarterbacking here. He's not talking about adding a theme, or adding bookmarks, things like that. Some of these distro's disable features, and change code in ways that down right break the app. What I would call for is a themed, and bookmarked version where the underlying code was what you get from Mozilla. If any of these Distros think they can help improve the code let 'em join up with Mozilla and contribute like the rest of the world. Too many people use firefox, and Mozilla browsers at this point for Debian to start trying to throwing its weight around. One of these days someone is going to wake up and realize that Ubuntu has a better debian setup than debian and that's where the developers, and user community is going to go. As far as I can tell, the sooner the better. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 16:30:43 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:30:43 -0500 Subject: Brother All-in-One Message-ID: <200610121130.43538.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Ok, here's the problem I'm having: I have installed the scanner software from Brother's site, and when I log in as root, I can scan just fine. However, when I log in as a regular user I can only scan if I use the network scanning functions, NOT the usb (which is much faster). The scanner shows up as brother2:bus2;dev1 and brother2:net1;dev0 (the net1 is the one that works even as a regular user.) to xsane. I know this has to be a rights issue, however, I'm not sure what to modify. I followed the instructions on the Brother solutions page (modifying /etc/fstab, and remounting /proc/bus/usb etc.) Nothing works when I'm a regular user. NOTE: added the following line to the /etc/fstab: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs auto,devmode=0666 0 0 So . .. . What do I edit change? I tried changing the owner of proc/bus/usb/002 and its files to root:scanner then adding everyone to that but no joy. Any suggestions, or suggested reading, would be gladly accepted. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 16:50:51 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:50:51 -0600 Subject: apt database locked Message-ID: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> About an hour ago, I tried to upgrade to KDE 3.5.5. Big mistake. 94 of 95 packages installed OK. That leaves me with the adept icon in my systray saying that there is 1 update available, But when I click on the icon and enter my password, I get: ----- Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one. ----- I have logged out and restarted KDE. I have even rebooted. But still I keep getting this message. I imagine that it means that somewhere a lock file has been created and somehow did not get deleted, presumably because one package did not download properly -- but I have no idea which lock file it might be, so I can remove it manually. Any ideas anyone? From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 17:19:05 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:19:05 -0600 Subject: apt database locked In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610121019k2bc50bbex93dbb4f904eaede8@mail.gmail.com> On 12/10/06, D. R. Evans wrote: > About an hour ago, I tried to upgrade to KDE 3.5.5. Big mistake. > I have managed to get rid of the message by executing: sudo dpkg --configure -a But there's still something broken. The little icon is still there saying that I have 1 package to update. That package is kdenetwork. But if I try to upgrade it, I get the "BREAK (upgrade)" message. Investigating with synaptic tells me that the reason is that the kdenetwork package needs kopete-3.5.5, whereas I have 3.5.4 installed. But there is no sign of a kopete-3.5.5 in the KDE upgrade :-( (This is on an AMD64 system.) Does anyone know where I can get the kopete-3.5.5 package so that I can complete the update to KDE 3.5.5? (Or, if not, where do I complain that there's a packaging problem with the KDE 3.5.5 packages for Kubuntu? I imagine that it's just that someone forgot to include the kopete package or something.) From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Thu Oct 12 17:46:27 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:46:27 -0700 Subject: apt database locked In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121046.27673.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Thursday 12 October 2006 09:50 am, D. R. Evans wrote: > About an hour ago, I tried to upgrade to KDE 3.5.5. Big mistake. > > 94 of 95 packages installed OK. That leaves me with the adept icon in > my systray saying that there is 1 update available, > > But when I click on the icon and enter my password, I get: > > ----- > > Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some > other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the > other application before using this one. > > ----- > > I have logged out and restarted KDE. > > I have even rebooted. > > But still I keep getting this message. I imagine that it means that > somewhere a lock file has been created and somehow did not get > deleted, presumably because one package did not download properly -- > but I have no idea which lock file it might be, so I can remove it > manually. > > Any ideas anyone? I had the same problem I had to shut down completely than restart to get rid of it [not elegant, but sometimes a big hammer is your only option] -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 17:24:17 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:24:17 -0600 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <452E4A83.1020906@satx.rr.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610121024u74ad99c1lccd49e5389b04ced@mail.gmail.com> As you may have seen in another thread, I am having exactly the same problem. SO at least you know you're not alone. (And so do I :-) ). On 12/10/06, Mitch Thompson wrote: > bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > > > > >Maybe it happened because you used not full mirrored source? > > > > > > > I apologize, I mis-typed. I was using > > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main > > for my source. > > -- > "People constantly speak of 'the government' doing this > or that, as they might speak of God doing it. But the > government is really nothing but a group of men, and > usually they are very inferior men." —H. L. Mencken > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 17:38:51 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:38:51 -0500 Subject: apt database locked In-Reply-To: <200610121046.27673.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> <200610121046.27673.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <200610121238.51155.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 12:46 pm, Grumpy_Penguin wrote: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 09:50 am, D. R. Evans wrote: > > About an hour ago, I tried to upgrade to KDE 3.5.5. Big mistake. > > > > 94 of 95 packages installed OK. That leaves me with the adept icon in > > my systray saying that there is 1 update available, > > > > But when I click on the icon and enter my password, I get: > > > > ----- > > > > Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some > > other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the > > other application before using this one. > > > > ----- > > > > I have logged out and restarted KDE. > > > > I have even rebooted. > > > > But still I keep getting this message. I imagine that it means that > > somewhere a lock file has been created and somehow did not get > > deleted, presumably because one package did not download properly -- > > but I have no idea which lock file it might be, so I can remove it > > manually. > > > > Any ideas anyone? > > I had the same problem I had to shut down completely than restart to get > rid of it [not elegant, but sometimes a big hammer is your only option] > > -- > Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will > Rodgers Actually all either of you had to do was go to /var/cache/apt/archives and delete the file "lock" Then restart your apt front-end of choice, and all should be well. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 17:43:04 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:43:04 -0500 Subject: apt database locked In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610121019k2bc50bbex93dbb4f904eaede8@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> <256f4e900610121019k2bc50bbex93dbb4f904eaede8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121243.04814.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 12:19 pm, D. R. Evans wrote: > On 12/10/06, D. R. Evans wrote: > > About an hour ago, I tried to upgrade to KDE 3.5.5. Big mistake. > > I have managed to get rid of the message by executing: > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > But there's still something broken. > > The little icon is still there saying that I have 1 package to update. > That package is kdenetwork. But if I try to upgrade it, I get the > "BREAK (upgrade)" message. > > Investigating with synaptic tells me that the reason is that the > kdenetwork package needs kopete-3.5.5, whereas I have 3.5.4 installed. > But there is no sign of a kopete-3.5.5 in the KDE upgrade :-( > > (This is on an AMD64 system.) > > Does anyone know where I can get the kopete-3.5.5 package so that I > can complete the update to KDE 3.5.5? (Or, if not, where do I complain > that there's a packaging problem with the KDE 3.5.5 packages for > Kubuntu? I imagine that it's just that someone forgot to include the > kopete package or something.) The problem apparently doesn't just exist in AMD64, I'm using the x86 side of things, and I get the same error. Not sure what's up there. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 18:12:17 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:12:17 -0500 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 9:41 am, Mitch Thompson wrote: > bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > >Maybe it happened because you used not full mirrored source? > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main > > for my source. Here's the dependency list that I have found with kdenetwork: When I try to upgrade kdenetwork it complains that the following package list are dependencies and they are not going to get upgraded: kdenetwork: Depends: dcoprss (its there) Depends: kdenetwork-kfile-plugins (its there) Depends: kdict (its there) Depends: kdnssd (its there) Depends: kget (its there) Depends: knewsticker (its there) Depends: kopete (Is NOT there) Depends: kpf (is there) Depends: kppp (is there) Depends: krdc (is there) Depends: krfb (is there) Depends: ksirc (is there) Depends: kwifimanager (is there) Depends: librss1 (is there) My assumption is that because kopete isn't going to be upgraded the rest of them wont be upgraded. However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall kopete, which I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for uninstall. Why is that? This is in the i386 side of things. I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with Kopete. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From brymelvin at melvinart.com Thu Oct 12 18:15:51 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Flash Player and firefox In-Reply-To: <200610111835.06382.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061012181551.32937.qmail@web33513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > Em Quarta 11 Outubro 2006 17:19, Rebel Lion > escreveu: > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:31:25 +0200 > > > > "Eduard Bonet" wrote: > > > It crashes too. > > > > > > Using linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic in an AMD > Turion 64x2 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/10/11, Bry Melvin > : > > > > No problems here ubuntu dapper. However I did > install my flash plugin > > from the tar.gz from the adobe website. Maybe this > is the difference. > > Maybe not, I instaled from tar.gz too, but it > crashed > > -- > ---------------------------------- > Leonardo de Miranda Cabral > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > I assume Generic 64 bit kernel...for flash and a few other programs to work I believe you need to use the X86 kernel. AFAIK flash is unsupported in 64 bit. Bryann From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 18:19:38 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:19:38 -0600 Subject: apt database locked In-Reply-To: <200610121238.51155.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> <200610121046.27673.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> <200610121238.51155.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610121119u30cce26braabfcb4ea8c3f536@mail.gmail.com> > > Actually all either of you had to do was go to /var/cache/apt/archives and > delete the file "lock" > > Then restart your apt front-end of choice, and all should be well. > Yeah, I was sure it would be a lock file of some kind, but I had no idea where that lock file might be :-) I'm surprised thast grumpypenguin got it sorted out with a restart. I tried that and as I indicated, it didn't work for me. From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 18:22:32 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:22:32 -0600 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610121122r2c3d49h8f05c2135b9eb76c@mail.gmail.com> > My assumption is that because kopete isn't going to be upgraded the rest of > them wont be upgraded. Same here. > > However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall kopete, which > I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for uninstall. Why is that? Because life is weird :-) > This is in the i386 side of things. > I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with Kopete. > Yeah. I did see in one of the reports about KDE 3.5.5 that it included upgrades to kopete, so it seems like someone just forgot to include it in the Kubuntu updates. As you suggest, it'll probably all be fixed by tomorrow. From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Thu Oct 12 18:50:36 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:50:36 -0700 Subject: apt database locked In-Reply-To: <200610121238.51155.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> <200610121046.27673.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> <200610121238.51155.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121150.36460.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Thursday 12 October 2006 10:38 am, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 12:46 pm, Grumpy_Penguin wrote: > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 09:50 am, D. R. Evans wrote: > > > About an hour ago, I tried to upgrade to KDE 3.5.5. Big mistake. > > > > > > 94 of 95 packages installed OK. That leaves me with the adept icon in > > > my systray saying that there is 1 update available, > > > > > > But when I click on the icon and enter my password, I get: > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some > > > other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the > > > other application before using this one. > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > I have logged out and restarted KDE. > > > > > > I have even rebooted. > > > > > > But still I keep getting this message. I imagine that it means that > > > somewhere a lock file has been created and somehow did not get > > > deleted, presumably because one package did not download properly -- > > > but I have no idea which lock file it might be, so I can remove it > > > manually. > > > > > > Any ideas anyone? > > > > I had the same problem I had to shut down completely than restart to get > > rid of it [not elegant, but sometimes a big hammer is your only option] > > > > -- > > Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a > > rock..Will Rodgers > > Actually all either of you had to do was go to /var/cache/apt/archives and > delete the file "lock" > > Then restart your apt front-end of choice, and all should be well. Thanks ...ya learn something every day > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From kubuntu at kitterman.com Thu Oct 12 18:33:47 2006 From: kubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:33:47 -0400 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121433.47610.kubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 14:12, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > My assumption is that because kopete isn't going to be upgraded the rest of > them wont be upgraded. Yes. It is probably safe to force the upgrade. I had to force one (I don't recall what) when I upgraded to 3.5.4. YMMV. > However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall kopete, > which I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for uninstall. Why is > that? This is in the i386 side of things. > I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with Kopete. Yes, since kdenetwork depends on kopete, it will be uninstalled if you uninstall kopete. This is the expected behavior if there is a dependency. Scott K From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Thu Oct 12 19:26:35 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 12:26:35 -0700 Subject: apt database locked In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610121119u30cce26braabfcb4ea8c3f536@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610120950l2984c02ardb79173079a3c95c@mail.gmail.com> <200610121238.51155.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <256f4e900610121119u30cce26braabfcb4ea8c3f536@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121226.35426.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Thursday 12 October 2006 11:19 am, D. R. Evans wrote: > > Actually all either of you had to do was go to /var/cache/apt/archives > > and delete the file "lock" > > > > Then restart your apt front-end of choice, and all should be well. > > Yeah, I was sure it would be a lock file of some kind, but I had no > idea where that lock file might be :-) > > I'm surprised thast grumpypenguin got it sorted out with a restart. I > tried that and as I indicated, it didn't work for me. probably because the malevolent linux god hates me ;-) -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From mitchthompson at satx.rr.com Thu Oct 12 19:16:50 2006 From: mitchthompson at satx.rr.com (Mitch Thompson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:16:50 -0500 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610121122r2c3d49h8f05c2135b9eb76c@mail.gmail.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <256f4e900610121122r2c3d49h8f05c2135b9eb76c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452E94A2.2070807@satx.rr.com> D. R. Evans wrote: >>My assumption is that because kopete isn't going to be upgraded the rest of >>them wont be upgraded. >> >> > >Same here. > > > >>However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall kopete, which >>I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for uninstall. Why is that? >> >> > >Because life is weird :-) > > > >>This is in the i386 side of things. >>I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with Kopete. >> >> >> > >Yeah. I did see in one of the reports about KDE 3.5.5 that it included >upgrades to kopete, so it seems like someone just forgot to include it >in the Kubuntu updates. > >As you suggest, it'll probably all be fixed by tomorrow. > > > To paraphrase: "Patience!? We ain't got no patience. We don't need no patience! I don't have to show you any stinking patience!!" Heh. -- “People constantly speak of ‘the government’ doing this or that, as they might speak of God doing it. But the government is really nothing but a group of men, and usually they are very inferior men.” —H. L. Mencken From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 12 17:45:49 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:45:49 -0300 Subject: threaded topics References: <452E40B4.2090202@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Harold Hartley wrote: > I'd like to know why people issist on keep on the same thread, but > changing the topic and article with something else that don't even apply > to the actual thread to begin with. > They don't "insist", they use "Reply" instead of starting a new thread. I find it annoying, too, but there's not much to be done except ask them not to do it. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 12 17:47:56 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:47:56 -0300 Subject: Modem Inspiron 6400 - was Re: SysGuard to show temperature References: <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452CA31F.9020303@gmail.com> <20061011122243.GA4889@let.rug.nl> <452CF61B.2050605@gmail.com> <20061012101136.GA7481@let.rug.nl> <452E1C13.2040801@gmail.com> Message-ID: Orjan Sinclair wrote: > Francisco Borges wrote: >>> Btw - have you tried using the modem? >> >> No, I haven't. I tried to use the WiFi once, and couldn't get it to >> work. >> > I have no problems with the WiFi whatsoever "out of the box". Got the > Intel Wireless. > > Modem seems not to be working according to Linuxant... "use a newer > kernel". Hm. I've never tried my modem either. I had a couple of WiFi options, so deliberately chose the intel, because I knew it worked. I don't own a landline phone, so didn't figure the modem would matter much :-) -- derek From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 19:57:30 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:57:30 -0500 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610121433.47610.kubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610121433.47610.kubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <200610121457.30307.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 1:33 pm, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 14:12, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > My assumption is that because kopete isn't going to be upgraded the rest > > of them wont be upgraded. > > Yes. It is probably safe to force the upgrade. I had to force one (I > don't recall what) when I upgraded to 3.5.4. YMMV. > > > However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall kopete, > > which I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for uninstall. Why is > > that? This is in the i386 side of things. > > I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with Kopete. > > Yes, since kdenetwork depends on kopete, it will be uninstalled if you > uninstall kopete. This is the expected behavior if there is a dependency. Hence my bewilderment. Why would it "depend" on kopete, and not the other way around. I don't think it should depend on an IM client. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From kubuntu at kitterman.com Thu Oct 12 20:13:30 2006 From: kubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:13:30 -0400 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610121457.30307.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610121433.47610.kubuntu@kitterman.com> <200610121457.30307.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610121613.31044.kubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 15:57, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 1:33 pm, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 14:12, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > > However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall kopete, > > > which I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for uninstall. Why > > > is that? This is in the i386 side of things. > > > I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with Kopete. > > > > Yes, since kdenetwork depends on kopete, it will be uninstalled if you > > uninstall kopete. This is the expected behavior if there is a > > dependency. > > Hence my bewilderment. Why would it "depend" on kopete, and not the other > way around. I don't think it should depend on an IM client. > Sure. That make sense. File a bug, but given the dependency what you see is expected. Scott K From frode at ubuntu.com Thu Oct 12 20:21:01 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:21:01 +0200 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610121457.30307.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610121433.47610.kubuntu@kitterman.com> <200610121457.30307.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610122221.01758.frode@ubuntu.com> Torsdag 12 oktober 2006 21:57, skrev Howard Coles Jr.: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 1:33 pm, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 14:12, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: [cut] > > > However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall kopete, > > > which I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for uninstall. Why > > > is that? This is in the i386 side of things. > > > I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with Kopete. > > > > Yes, since kdenetwork depends on kopete, it will be uninstalled if you > > uninstall kopete. This is the expected behavior if there is a > > dependency. Correct. > Hence my bewilderment. Why would it "depend" on kopete, and not the other > way around. I don't think it should depend on an IM client. kdenetwork is a meta-package that depends on all the packages that makes up the kdenetwork section of KDE. It does not provide anything usefull except the list of packages it depends on. Removing the package 'kdenetwork' does not remove anything but the small package info. (This with aptitude and apt-get remove --auto-remove this might not be true at all times.) Each package kdenetwork depends on, does not depend on kdenetwork, and that's intentional. If kdenetwork depended on kopete and kopete depended on kdenetwork, and then kdenetwork depended on kppp which again depended on kdenetwork... and so on. That would leave you with two options: Either install kdenetwork or don't. It would be the same as having one big package, kdenetwork.deb. Having kopete without also having kppp would not be possible. The current solution is nice, because we can choose to have kopete installed, wiithout having to install the whole kdenetwork section. We can leave kppp if we don't need it. We can choose individual packages, without beeing forced to have more than the minimum of installed dependencies. Hope this was helpfull somehow :) - Frode From labradley at mindspring.com Thu Oct 12 20:26:15 2006 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:26:15 -0500 Subject: Setting up NFS but no exportfs program - what to do? Message-ID: <452EA4E7.3020203@mindspring.com> I am setting up NFS on Kubuntu 6.06 but there is no exportfs which is a program required to publish the NFS shares in /etc/exports. I have looked in 'which exportfs' and 'locate exportfs' as root but it's not on my system. How can I get it? My system has installed the following packages: kdenetwork-fileshareing, nfs-common, nfs-kernel-server, and portmap. Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From ejviolet at yahoo.com Thu Oct 12 20:25:04 2006 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: firefox + logo Message-ID: <20061012202504.24809.qmail@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I like top posting!!! Fortunately there are several distros not Debian based for those who dislike Debian policy. HOORAY!!! FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD are available for download. Distros like PSBSD and DesktopBSD are based on them. More Cheers!!! That's the beauty of the free software movement, if you don't like something, you have choices. Earl On Thursday 12 October 2006 11:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > Why can i not picutre myself supporting a user and saying: "Now open up > > Iceweasel and browse to this page..." Or something similiar. Come on > > guys at Mozilla, get your act together this is just plain stupid > > My thoughts exactly. Come on debian, what the hell is the big deal with > using the mozilla supplied artwork intact? Inquiring minds would like > to know. Because annoying mailing list people and GNU folks need things to argue about and destroy momentum for "correctness" of editing logos. This is why these people are never going to be heading up anything remotely useful, because they get bogged down in tiny righteousness details. URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From gcarst at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 20:48:23 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:48:23 +0200 Subject: Adding RAM In-Reply-To: <880dece00610120745h5fcb0444p3c801d2d27baf566@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> <200610120551.02410.maye.co@gmail.com> <880dece00610120603s90af6f6l1ed1fb62daf22b6e@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610120745h5fcb0444p3c801d2d27baf566@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://lwn.net/Articles/28309/ explains a bit. Looks to me as your memory is detected and working... Gunner 2006/10/12, Dotan Cohen : > > On 12/10/06, Gunner wrote: > > Try to run a: > > cat /proc/meminfo > > > > to see how much you have in use.. > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ cat /proc/meminfo > MemTotal: 1002168 kB > MemFree: 17528 kB > Buffers: 110996 kB > Cached: 657812 kB > SwapCached: 0 kB > Active: 362684 kB > Inactive: 569856 kB > HighTotal: 98240 kB > HighFree: 132 kB > LowTotal: 903928 kB > LowFree: 17396 kB > SwapTotal: 1413648 kB > SwapFree: 1413648 kB > Dirty: 116 kB > Writeback: 0 kB > Mapped: 230896 kB > Slab: 40876 kB > CommitLimit: 1914732 kB > Committed_AS: 384764 kB > PageTables: 1904 kB > VmallocTotal: 114680 kB > VmallocUsed: 4964 kB > VmallocChunk: 109348 kB > > What is 'inactive' and 'dirty' memory? Should I be concerned with that? > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/ > http://english-lyrics.com/ > > -- > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billcoker at eapps.com Thu Oct 12 21:46:27 2006 From: billcoker at eapps.com (Bill Coker) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:46:27 -0400 Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu Message-ID: <452EB7B3.7060301@eapps.com> Greetings, I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to install, confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the things that it could not setup. 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the steps needed. Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using package manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel already provides the required modules". I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm thinking I still may need to install it? MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on board with everything else :) 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some other documentation on the steps required to get her running. I appreciate any assistance. Thanks, Bill From f.borges at rug.nl Thu Oct 12 21:58:04 2006 From: f.borges at rug.nl (Francisco Borges) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:58:04 +0200 Subject: kmenu icon question Message-ID: <20061012215804.GA9001@let.rug.nl> Hello, Is there a way to change the K Menu image, other than overwriting the default image? Is there a way to do the same with the logout image? (/usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shutdownkonq.png) Cheers, -- Francisco From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 21:58:27 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:58:27 +0200 Subject: Adding RAM In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610120204h6a7d93cm55fc1bb20dcb9196@mail.gmail.com> <200610120551.02410.maye.co@gmail.com> <880dece00610120603s90af6f6l1ed1fb62daf22b6e@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610120745h5fcb0444p3c801d2d27baf566@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610121458p10cd291aobe7cf0377bbe9e80@mail.gmail.com> On 12/10/06, Gunner wrote: > http://lwn.net/Articles/28309/ explains a bit. > > Looks to me as your memory is detected and working... > > Gunner > Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://english-lyrics.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From jeremy at jdli.net Thu Oct 12 22:33:58 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:33:58 -0400 Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <452EB7B3.7060301@eapps.com> References: <452EB7B3.7060301@eapps.com> Message-ID: <200610121833.58621.jeremy@jdli.net> Which version of kubuntu? On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:46, Bill Coker wrote: > Greetings, > > I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to install, > confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the things > that it could not setup. > > 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC > [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] > > I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the steps > needed. > > Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using package > manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel already > provides the required modules". > > I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm > thinking I still may need to install it? > > MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on board > with everything else :) > > 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some other > documentation on the steps required to get her running. > > I appreciate any assistance. > > Thanks, > Bill From lists at wordit.com Thu Oct 12 22:56:58 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:56:58 +0200 Subject: Setting up NFS but no exportfs program - what to do? In-Reply-To: <452EA4E7.3020203@mindspring.com> References: <452EA4E7.3020203@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200610130056.59115.lists@wordit.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 22:26, Larry Alkoff wrote: > I am setting up NFS on Kubuntu 6.06 but there is no exportfs which is > a program required to publish the NFS shares in /etc/exports. > I have looked in 'which exportfs' and 'locate exportfs' as root but > it's not on my system. Try reinstalling, or removing the packages. It should be part of these packages or another dependency which apt should find. Or try a complete removal with Synaptic (I don't know the apt-get switch for that). sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap Marcus From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Thu Oct 12 23:02:59 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:02:59 -0400 Subject: MORE: Cups problem ( oh, this is nice ) Bug !!! Message-ID: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Never had a problem setting up my epson stylus c86 usb printer... NEVER UNTIL TODAY, after some updates, I went to setup the espon, then I get this error message: "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason." ---------- Somebody please tell what is going on with this? " what unknown reason? Edgy 6.10 ----------------------------- Thanks - Rich From hawkwind at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 23:09:05 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:09:05 -0500 Subject: Setting up NFS but no exportfs program - what to do? In-Reply-To: <200610130056.59115.lists@wordit.com> References: <452EA4E7.3020203@mindspring.com> <200610130056.59115.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: On 10/12/06, marcus wrote: > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 22:26, Larry Alkoff wrote: > > I am setting up NFS on Kubuntu 6.06 but there is no exportfs which is > > a program required to publish the NFS shares in /etc/exports. > > I have looked in 'which exportfs' and 'locate exportfs' as root but > > it's not on my system. > > Try reinstalling, or removing the packages. It should be part of these > packages or another dependency which apt should find. > Or try a complete removal with Synaptic (I don't know the apt-get switch > for that). > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap I've set up NFS here on Kubuntu and never had anything to do with exportfs. I simply edit my /etc/exports file and be done with it all. What exactly are you needing this exportfs stuff for ? 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URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 00:04:44 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:04:44 +0200 Subject: Moving data between 2 PCs In-Reply-To: <200610101705.22926.lists@wordit.com> References: <200610020737.01345.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <452B898E.5090106@gmail.com> <6c889d120610100715o3fbb351fi4bec63ebf2b1bf46@mail.gmail.com> <200610101705.22926.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610121704m1b06eeej1129ef0b99f2cfc0@mail.gmail.com> On 10/10/06, marcus wrote: > On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:15, Billy Pollifrone wrote: > > On 10/10/06, Orjan Sinclair wrote: > > Is there really no reasonably simple way to copy from 1 PC to > > another via removable media?? And keep ownership and rwx > > There's a simple way, especially good for USB sticks. I use "Unison". > > - Install unison and the GTK frontend unison-gtk, via synaptic or: > > apt-get update > apt-get install unison unison-gtk > > - Mount the USB drive(s) and run unison-gtk. Note: If the USB drives are > formatted with FAT, as I suspect they are, then run "sudo unison-gtk" > (see note below). > > Unison will ask you to select source and destination, then show a report > of the files which have changed. It's a very simple and fast way to > keep backups on a USB stick, or sync files on various drives. > > > CAUTION: This goes for any sync program (you may know from Syncback on > Windows). If you edit on both drives, meaning source and destination > may change, then check in which direction you are copying, especially > if a file has been deleted on the source side. I would first play > around with test files before using your important data. > > Note: Since FAT does not support all the permissions of a Linux file > system, run unison as root. This is the only method I found to work > properly with FAT formatted drives. Mounting with various permissions > causes weird issues simply because FAT is different to EXT2/3. > When using FAT and EXT2/3 drives, you may need to experiment because of > the different file systems and permissions. Do some test runs first. If he tars up the files, then he won't need to worry about FAT losing the permissions information. He can even compress the tarball. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/spam.html http://essentialinux.com/ From labradley at mindspring.com Fri Oct 13 00:14:07 2006 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:14:07 -0500 Subject: Setting up NFS but no exportfs program - what to do? In-Reply-To: References: <452EA4E7.3020203@mindspring.com> <200610130056.59115.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <452EDA4F.1010900@mindspring.com> Hawkwind wrote: > On 10/12/06, marcus wrote: >> >> On Thursday 12 October 2006 22:26, Larry Alkoff wrote: >> > I am setting up NFS on Kubuntu 6.06 but there is no exportfs which is >> > a program required to publish the NFS shares in /etc/exports. >> > I have looked in 'which exportfs' and 'locate exportfs' as root but >> > it's not on my system. >> >> Try reinstalling, or removing the packages. It should be part of these >> packages or another dependency which apt should find. >> Or try a complete removal with Synaptic (I don't know the apt-get switch >> for that). >> >> sudo apt-get update >> sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap > > > > I've set up NFS here on Kubuntu and never had anything to do with exportfs. > I simply edit my /etc/exports file and be done with it all. What exactly > are you needing this exportfs stuff for ? > Darned if I know Marcus. All I know is that I've read that exportfs is the program that takes your exports and tells the kernel what to do. In any case, installing nfs-common again did it and exportfs has appeared. Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 00:48:43 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:48:43 +0200 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <200610121111.15260.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200610121111.15260.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610121748yf92542fp379f55b2744a0bed@mail.gmail.com> Ubuntu benefits by having Firefox, and Firefox benefits by being included in Ubuntu. As soon as there is a split, even something as simple as a name change, then both lose. I agree that there is too much politics. In my opinion Ubuntu should just give us Firefox as Mozilla intended it. And KDE as well, for that matter. I very much dislike the Kubuntu changes. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ubuntu.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Fri Oct 13 01:18:48 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:18:48 -0400 Subject: How can I upgrade kdenetwork? Message-ID: <200610122118.49639.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, my kdenetwork remains at 3.5.2. The relevant portion of source.list is: # KDE 3.5.5 packages deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 main dapper Should the "dapper" be replaced by "edgy" as has been mentioned? Thanks, Bob -- Q: Why was Stonehenge abandoned? A: It wasn't IBM compatible. From hawkwind at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 01:23:26 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:23:26 -0500 Subject: How can I upgrade kdenetwork? In-Reply-To: <200610122118.49639.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200610122118.49639.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: On 10/12/06, Robert Tilley wrote: > > After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, my kdenetwork remains at 3.5.2. > > The relevant portion of source.list is: > > # KDE 3.5.5 packages > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 main dapper > > Should the "dapper" be replaced by "edgy" as has been mentioned? The question is, what version of the OS are you using ? If you're using Edgy, then yes replace dapper with edgy. If you're using Dapper, there are dapper packages out there. Read this URL for Dapper: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php Thanks, Bob > -- > Q: Why was Stonehenge abandoned? > A: It wasn't IBM compatible. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 01:58:03 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 03:58:03 +0200 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole Message-ID: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> How can I open files in the prefered app from Konsole? For instance, if I click on a .doc in Konqi, then it opens in Kword without my specifically asking for Kword. Without knowing what app opens a .doc, how can I tell Konsole to open it? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://english-lyrics.com/ http://gmail-com.com/ From hawkwind at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 02:02:44 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:02:44 -0500 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/12/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > How can I open files in the prefered app from Konsole? For instance, > if I click on a .doc in Konqi, then it opens in Kword without my > specifically asking for Kword. Without knowing what app opens a .doc, > how can I tell Konsole to open it? > > Thanks. Have you tried: kword file.doc ?? If it needs to be edited by root, then kdesu kword file.doc Dotan Cohen > > http://english-lyrics.com/ > http://gmail-com.com/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From waldbie at verizon.net Fri Oct 13 02:07:54 2006 From: waldbie at verizon.net (Carl) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:07:54 -0400 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610122207.54582.waldbie@verizon.net> On Thursday 12 October 2006 9:58 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > How can I open files in the prefered app from Konsole? For instance, > if I click on a .doc in Konqi, then it opens in Kword without my > specifically asking for Kword. Without knowing what app opens a .doc, > how can I tell Konsole to open it? > > Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://english-lyrics.com/ > http://gmail-com.com/ Try: $ kfmclient exec Carl W. From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 02:28:29 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:28:29 +0200 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610121928u7d913fd6p1b48ddf1b749d547@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Hawkwind wrote: > On 10/12/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > How can I open files in the prefered app from Konsole? For instance, > > if I click on a .doc in Konqi, then it opens in Kword without my > > specifically asking for Kword. Without knowing what app opens a .doc, > > how can I tell Konsole to open it? > > > > Thanks. > > Have you tried: kword file.doc ?? > > If it needs to be edited by root, then kdesu kword file.doc And if I don't know that kword is needed to open a .doc? Just as Konqi selects the right app for the job when I click on an app, so I'd like in Konsole. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/java.html http://technology-sleuth.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 02:29:51 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:29:51 +0200 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: <200610122207.54582.waldbie@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> <200610122207.54582.waldbie@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610121929j5f8a7e21o88e8a0977a76dc6b@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Carl wrote: > Try: > > $ kfmclient exec > No matter what type of file, I get this output: dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ kfmclient tux016.pdf X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 145 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 145 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device "tux016.pdf" שגיאת תחביר: פקודה לא מוכרת dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ kfmclient dotan-logo.png X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 145 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 Major opcode: 145 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device "dotan-logo.png" שגיאת תחביר: פקודה לא מוכרת dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html http://dotancohen.com/ From waldbie at verizon.net Fri Oct 13 02:35:02 2006 From: waldbie at verizon.net (Carl) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:35:02 -0400 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: <880dece00610121929j5f8a7e21o88e8a0977a76dc6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> <200610122207.54582.waldbie@verizon.net> <880dece00610121929j5f8a7e21o88e8a0977a76dc6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610122235.02595.waldbie@verizon.net> On Thursday 12 October 2006 10:29 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 13/10/06, Carl wrote: > > Try: > > > > $ kfmclient exec > > No matter what type of file, I get this output: > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ kfmclient tux016.pdf You need to include the "exec" part after the "kfmclient". E.g. $ kfmclient exec tux016.pdf You may see some output in the console, but the app associated with that mime type should open. Carl W. From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 02:40:56 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:40:56 +0200 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: <200610122235.02595.waldbie@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> <200610122207.54582.waldbie@verizon.net> <880dece00610121929j5f8a7e21o88e8a0977a76dc6b@mail.gmail.com> <200610122235.02595.waldbie@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610121940n885ab37ubbee1bb1e7e625c6@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Carl wrote: > You need to include the "exec" part after the "kfmclient". E.g. > $ kfmclient exec tux016.pdf > > You may see some output in the console, but the app associated with that mime > type should open. > > Carl W. Thanks, that's great to know. Will add to bag of tricks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html From hawkwind at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 02:35:20 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:35:20 -0500 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: <880dece00610121929j5f8a7e21o88e8a0977a76dc6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> <200610122207.54582.waldbie@verizon.net> <880dece00610121929j5f8a7e21o88e8a0977a76dc6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/12/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 13/10/06, Carl wrote: > > Try: > > > > $ kfmclient exec > > > > No matter what type of file, I get this output: > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ kfmclient tux016.pdf > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 > Major opcode: 145 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 > Major opcode: 145 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > "tux016.pdf" שגיאת תחביר: פקודה לא מוכרת > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ kfmclient dotan-logo.png > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 > Major opcode: 145 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 > Major opcode: 145 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > "dotan-logo.png" שגיאת תחביר: פקודה לא מוכרת > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop$ To get rid of the bad device errors, read this post on my forums: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0 As far as the konsole thing, I've never heard of any way of doing that. Though I don't use KDE enough to really know for sure. However, after testing the command: kfmclient exec file.txt and doing it on a .png file and others, it works. Very kewl indeed to learn. Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html > http://dotancohen.com/ > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbmorse at comcast.net Fri Oct 13 02:46:48 2006 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:46:48 -0600 Subject: MORE: Cups problem ( oh, this is nice ) Bug !!! In-Reply-To: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610122046.48530.rbmorse@comcast.net> Happened to me, too. I think the last CUPS update is broken. Ron Morse On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:02, Richard wrote: > Never had a problem setting up my epson stylus c86 usb > printer... NEVER > > UNTIL TODAY, after some updates, I went to setup the > espon, then I get this error message: > > > "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message > received from manager: Connection to CUPS server failed. > Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and > running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown > reason." ---------- > > Somebody please tell what is going on with this? " what > unknown reason? > > Edgy 6.10 > ----------------------------- > > Thanks - > Rich From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 02:50:58 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:50:58 +0200 Subject: Opening files from the Konsole In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610121858j62f4ef0apa52268a422aacea6@mail.gmail.com> <200610122207.54582.waldbie@verizon.net> <880dece00610121929j5f8a7e21o88e8a0977a76dc6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610121950w31f678dfo314cf858da930738@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Hawkwind wrote: > To get rid of the bad device errors, read this post on my forums: > http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0 Thanks. I didn't really suspect a problem with X, however. > As far as the konsole thing, I've never heard of any way of doing that. > Though I don't use KDE enough to really know for sure. However, after > testing the command: kfmclient exec file.txt and doing it on a .png file > and others, it works. Very kewl indeed to learn. Kewl indeed. Dotan Cohen http://english-lyrics.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Fri Oct 13 04:36:26 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:36:26 -0700 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200610122136.26605.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Thursday 12 October 2006 04:46, Harold Hartley wrote: > Right now the firefox on dapper does not have the right logo thats > suppose to be with firefox. I use the Firefox logo with Dapper on my machine. I uploaded Firefox from the Mozilla site awhile ago, and overwrote the Ubuntu version. But the installed programs list never showed the upgrade. So when the upgrade for Ubuntu came out, and I updated my machine, the version from the Moz site was overwritten, leaving the icons. :-) So there are many ways to skin the Debian cat, and that is the Firefox way. Long live the Firefox logo and may the Debian maintainers quit evangilizing like the do. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Fri Oct 13 04:43:48 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:43:48 -0700 Subject: Apt-get pubkey error Message-ID: <200610122143.48276.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> I keep getting the following error when I update apt-get. How can I get this pubkey to make the system happy? "W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718" Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Fri Oct 13 04:46:51 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:46:51 -0700 Subject: kmenu icon question In-Reply-To: <20061012215804.GA9001@let.rug.nl> References: <20061012215804.GA9001@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <200610122146.51829.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Thursday 12 October 2006 14:58, Francisco Borges wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a way to change the K Menu image, other than overwriting the > default image? > > Is there a way to do the same with the logout image? > (/usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shutdownkonq.png) I would hunt the web for this answer, as many distros mess with the kde icons and images, like Ubuntu has done with KDM Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From hawkwind at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 05:47:54 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:47:54 -0500 Subject: Apt-get pubkey error In-Reply-To: <200610122143.48276.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <200610122143.48276.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 10/12/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > I keep getting the following error when I update apt-get. How can I get > this > pubkey to make the system happy? > > "W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The > following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718" gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv F120156012B83718 && gpg --export --armor F120156012B83718 | sudo apt-key add - Rob > > -- > Mountlake Terrace, WA > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at wordit.com Fri Oct 13 06:19:46 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:19:46 +0200 Subject: Setting up NFS but no exportfs program - what to do? In-Reply-To: <452EDA4F.1010900@mindspring.com> References: <452EA4E7.3020203@mindspring.com> <452EDA4F.1010900@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <200610130819.46896.lists@wordit.com> On Friday 13 October 2006 02:14, Larry Alkoff wrote: > Darned if I know Marcus. All I know is that I've read that exportfs > is the program that takes your exports and tells the kernel > what to do. That query was from Cliff, since normally you don't need to mess with exportfs. But I guessed that it must have been deleted somehow on your system. > In any case, installing nfs-common again did it and exportfs has > appeared. Maybe another app saw a conflict and removed exportfs...or it didn't get installed the first time around. Sounds weird anyway. At least reinstalling fixes it. Hopefully it was not a dependency conflict or you might get the same problem again in the future. I have no idea what it could be though, if that is the case. Marcus From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 07:07:06 2006 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:07:06 -0800 Subject: kmenu icon question In-Reply-To: <200610122146.51829.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <20061012215804.GA9001@let.rug.nl> <200610122146.51829.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <75e605190610130007g318da0b5kc9e7120301cd8b8a@mail.gmail.com> For changing the logout image: http://kde-artists.org/tutorial?PHPSESSID=9ece56be0c4c333b3f81c92bcfe6d5a3 I'm not sure if there's any other way to change the K Menu icon other than replacing kmenu.png. On 10/12/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 14:58, Francisco Borges wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Is there a way to change the K Menu image, other than overwriting the > > default image? > > > > Is there a way to do the same with the logout image? > > (/usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shutdownkonq.png) > > I would hunt the web for this answer, as many distros mess with the kde > icons > and images, like Ubuntu has done with KDM > > Rob > > -- > Mountlake Terrace, WA > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 08:02:22 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:02:22 +0200 Subject: Apt-get pubkey error In-Reply-To: References: <200610122143.48276.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <452F480E.8030008@gmail.com> Following a bit of digging around I found this; wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - sudo apt-get update worked fine for me. Source; http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper Sinclair Hawkwind wrote: > > > On 10/12/06, *Rob Blomquist* > wrote: > > I keep getting the following error when I update apt-get. How can I > get this > pubkey to make the system happy? > > "W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The > following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718" > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv > F120156012B83718 && gpg --export --armor F120156012B83718 | sudo apt-key > add - > > > Rob > > -- > Mountlake Terrace, WA > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > With kind regards, > > Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) > Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 > http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org > IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net ): #LFD #Kubuntu > #Ulteo > From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 06:57:47 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:57:47 +0200 Subject: Apt-get pubkey error In-Reply-To: References: <200610122143.48276.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <452F38EB.4060501@gmail.com> Hawkwind wrote: > > > On 10/12/06, *Rob Blomquist* > wrote: > > I keep getting the following error when I update apt-get. How can I > get this > pubkey to make the system happy? > > "W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The > following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718" > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv > F120156012B83718 && gpg --export --armor F120156012B83718 | sudo apt-key > add - > Here is what I get out of that; gpg: requesting key 12B83718 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net gpg: no writable keyring found: eof gpg: error reading `[stream]': general error gpg: Total number processed: 0 Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 06:52:24 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:52:24 +0200 Subject: Modem Inspiron 6400 In-Reply-To: References: <452A5E51.3040703@gmail.com> <20061009151935.GB31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090830x3f623424xcc3f73f3166c6ff6@mail.gmail.com> <4ba734f90610090846q431edb0fkc83ec1cb1bb2be1d@mail.gmail.com> <20061009160408.GC31297@let.rug.nl> <4ba734f90610090913u7a3818c5nef776b9795da29b0@mail.gmail.com> <20061009225714.GA32337@let.rug.nl> <452CA31F.9020303@gmail.com> <20061011122243.GA4889@let.rug.nl> <452CF61B.2050605@gmail.com> <20061012101136.GA7481@let.rug.nl> <452E1C13.2040801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <452F37A8.5010102@gmail.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Orjan Sinclair wrote: > >> Francisco Borges wrote: > >>>> Btw - have you tried using the modem? >>> No, I haven't. I tried to use the WiFi once, and couldn't get it to >>> work. >>> >> I have no problems with the WiFi whatsoever "out of the box". Got the >> Intel Wireless. >> >> Modem seems not to be working according to Linuxant... "use a newer >> kernel". Hm. > > I've never tried my modem either. I had a couple of WiFi options, so > deliberately chose the intel, because I knew it worked. I don't own a > landline phone, so didn't figure the modem would matter much :-) Well I live in a different world, so to speak. A country where "broadband" is near mythical and in reality only affordable to larger companies. Dial-up is THE only thing available for home access (unless you can afford VSAT at a ridicilous price). So I really need to get my modem working or use an external. But it annoys me to have to buy hardware when I have a perfectly working modem already. What Linuxant are actually saying is that "HDA is not supported in this kernel". So any ideas are welcome. Sinclair From frode at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 13 09:50:24 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:50:24 +0200 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610121109.49968.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200610131150.25364.frode@ubuntu.com> Torsdag 12 oktober 2006 17:40, skrev Henri Girard: > even for edgy you can get it : > > > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main > > when i saw dapper having it and not edgy ... i was wondering if it wasn't > possible and it is !!! > thanks to those who do it ! > Henri [cut] KDE 3.5.5 is included in edgy. You do not need the kubuntu.org repositories. - Frode From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 09:59:20 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:59:20 +0200 Subject: ReiserFS in trouble In-Reply-To: <75e605190610130007g318da0b5kc9e7120301cd8b8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061012215804.GA9001@let.rug.nl> <200610122146.51829.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <75e605190610130007g318da0b5kc9e7120301cd8b8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452F6378.5010301@gmail.com> Don't know if anyone here is using ReiserFS but just read that Novell is changing over to Ext3 - and that Hans Reiser has been arrested on suspicion of murdering his wife! News from a IT-magazine called Microcomputer, part of IDG. Sinclair From serzholino at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 10:02:48 2006 From: serzholino at gmail.com (Serhiy Kachanuk) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:02:48 +0300 Subject: ReiserFS in trouble In-Reply-To: <452F6378.5010301@gmail.com> References: <20061012215804.GA9001@let.rug.nl> <200610122146.51829.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <75e605190610130007g318da0b5kc9e7120301cd8b8a@mail.gmail.com> <452F6378.5010301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <793f89500610130302r6a1a03a7s3d88aca3389110cf@mail.gmail.com> http://news.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/12/0355223 2006/10/13, O. Sinclair : > Don't know if anyone here is using ReiserFS but just read that Novell is > changing over to Ext3 - and that Hans Reiser has been arrested on > suspicion of murdering his wife! > > News from a IT-magazine called Microcomputer, part of IDG. > > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Best regards, Serhiy Kachanuk Jabber serzh at jabber.te.ua ICQ 262581267 From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Oct 13 10:46:39 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:46:39 +0200 Subject: MORE: Cups problem ( oh, this is nice ) Bug !!! In-Reply-To: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <452F6E8F.6090806@rmk.co.il> Richard wrote: > Never had a problem setting up my epson stylus c86 usb printer... NEVER > > UNTIL TODAY, after some updates, I went to setup the espon, then I get this > error message: > > > "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager: > Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly > installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason." > ---------- > > Somebody please tell what is going on with this? " what unknown reason? > > Edgy 6.10 > ----------------------------- > > Thanks - > Rich From another thread: On Thursday 12 October 2006 08:02, Liz Young wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from > > manager: Lame to be answering my own post, but it's already in Launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/65665 "...changing the cups server from localhost to 127.0.0.1 in the print configuration dialog of kprinter fixes the problem (system options => cups server => host). No more connection errors..." Yep, that works. No goat sacrificed. :-) HTH. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From haroldh at midmaine.com Fri Oct 13 11:31:02 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:31:02 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <20061012135735.GA8262@let.rug.nl> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <20061012135735.GA8262@let.rug.nl> Message-ID: <452F78F6.3070004@midmaine.com> Francisco Borges wrote: > » On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 07:46AM -0400, Harold Hartley wrote: > > >> Does anyone know if ubuntu/kubuntu will keep the name firefox with its >> original logo or are they going to change the name to iceweasel like >> debian is doing. >> > > AFAIK this is still being discussed at the Ubuntu devel list. > > An interesting bug to be brought up at this moment ;-) > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/64844 > > Are they going to look into changing thunderbird e-mail program too since debian is doing the same to that app like with firefox. The artwork for thunderbird is not being used either that it suppose to be using. Harold From rbmorse at comcast.net Fri Oct 13 13:00:23 2006 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 07:00:23 -0600 Subject: MORE: Cups problem ( oh, this is nice ) Bug !!! In-Reply-To: <452F6E8F.6090806@rmk.co.il> References: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <452F6E8F.6090806@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610130700.23313.rbmorse@comcast.net> That did not work for me with the Edgy beta, but perversely using kprinter to change the cups server address from /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 to localhost got the server going again. I did have to reinstall the printers into CUPS before they would print, but all is well now. RBM On Friday 13 October 2006 04:46, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Richard wrote: > > Never had a problem setting up my epson stylus c86 usb > > printer... NEVER > > > > UNTIL TODAY, after some updates, I went to setup the > > espon, then I get this error message: > > > > > > "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message > > received from manager: Connection to CUPS server > > failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly > > installed and running. Error: the IPP request failed > > for an unknown reason." ---------- > > > > Somebody please tell what is going on with this? " what > > unknown reason? > > > > Edgy 6.10 > > ----------------------------- > > > > Thanks - > > Rich > > From another thread: > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 08:02, Liz Young wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > "Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message > > > received from manager: > > Lame to be answering my own post, but it's already in > Launchpad > > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug >/65665 > > "...changing the cups server from localhost to 127.0.0.1 > in the print configuration dialog of kprinter fixes the > problem (system options => cups server => host). No more > connection errors..." > > Yep, that works. No goat sacrificed. :-) > > HTH. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > Messianic E-Cards.com > http://www.messianicecards.com/ From henrigira at numericable.fr Fri Oct 13 13:54:15 2006 From: henrigira at numericable.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:54:15 +0200 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610131150.25364.frode@ubuntu.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610121109.49968.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200610131150.25364.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: Maybe today ... lol but not the day it went out ?? i am on edgy beta is edgy gone out ? cheers Henri On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:50:24 +0200, wrote: > Torsdag 12 oktober 2006 17:40, skrev Henri Girard: >> even for edgy you can get it : >> >> >> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355/ edgy main >> >> when i saw dapper having it and not edgy ... i was wondering if it >> wasn't >> possible and it is !!! >> thanks to those who do it ! >> Henri > [cut] > > KDE 3.5.5 is included in edgy. You do not need the kubuntu.org > repositories. > > - Frode > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 14:01:51 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:01:51 -0600 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610121122r2c3d49h8f05c2135b9eb76c@mail.gmail.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <20061012140935.GB26074@jabberpl.org> <452E5420.5040601@satx.rr.com> <200610121312.17330.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <256f4e900610121122r2c3d49h8f05c2135b9eb76c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610130701p1d9ef7e1q3de213de56f32ef8@mail.gmail.com> On 12/10/06, D. R. Evans wrote: > Yeah. I did see in one of the reports about KDE 3.5.5 that it included > upgrades to kopete, so it seems like someone just forgot to include it > in the Kubuntu updates. > > As you suggest, it'll probably all be fixed by tomorrow. > And indeed, it is. Man, the Kubuntu packagers are really impressive! From billcoker at eapps.com Fri Oct 13 14:15:30 2006 From: billcoker at eapps.com (Bill Coker) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:15:30 -0400 Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610121833.58621.jeremy@jdli.net> References: <452EB7B3.7060301@eapps.com> <200610121833.58621.jeremy@jdli.net> Message-ID: <452F9F82.1090601@eapps.com> Jeremy Anderson wrote: > Which version of kubuntu? > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:46, Bill Coker wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to install, >> confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the things >> that it could not setup. >> >> 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC >> [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] >> >> I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the steps >> needed. >> >> Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using package >> manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel already >> provides the required modules". >> >> I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm >> thinking I still may need to install it? >> >> MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on board >> with everything else :) >> >> 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some other >> documentation on the steps required to get her running. >> >> I appreciate any assistance. >> >> Thanks, >> Bill >> > > > Jeremy, I'm sorry, I guess that would have been helpful; Kubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper installed from live CD. From jeremy at jdli.net Fri Oct 13 14:54:18 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:54:18 -0400 Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <452F9F82.1090601@eapps.com> References: <452EB7B3.7060301@eapps.com> <200610121833.58621.jeremy@jdli.net> <452F9F82.1090601@eapps.com> Message-ID: <200610131054.18707.jeremy@jdli.net> what do you get as out put for this command: lsusb On Friday 13 October 2006 10:15, Bill Coker wrote: > Jeremy Anderson wrote: > > Which version of kubuntu? > > > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:46, Bill Coker wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> > >> I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to install, > >> confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the things > >> that it could not setup. > >> > >> 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC > >> [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] > >> > >> I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the steps > >> needed. > >> > >> Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using package > >> manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel already > >> provides the required modules". > >> > >> I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm > >> thinking I still may need to install it? > >> > >> MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on board > >> with everything else :) > >> > >> 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some other > >> documentation on the steps required to get her running. > >> > >> I appreciate any assistance. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill > > Jeremy, > > I'm sorry, I guess that would have been helpful; > > Kubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper > installed from live CD. From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Fri Oct 13 15:15:00 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:15:00 -0400 Subject: Active X emulation in Konq? Message-ID: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> Hi, I am faced with losing a rather lucrative translation contract, if I can´t access a site that is requiring IE5 or ¨better¨ I have set Konqueror to identify as IE6, but the site still tells me that I can not access all featuers (which I need to do), without setting Active X enabled and listing the site as ¨Trusted¨. I´m at a loss. I had thought it was possible to run IE with wine, but I am unable to DL IE, without ¨validating my windows installation¨, which, of course, I don´t even have. I need this work. Any ideas? And to think...I deleted an XP install on an unused disk just a couple of weeks ago. It was functional, at least so far as Windows is capable of being functional, but I never used it, so deleted it. Now I am wishing I still had it. Tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From ylan.segal at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 15:20:27 2006 From: ylan.segal at gmail.com (Ylan Segal) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:20:27 -0400 Subject: ksmserver crashes on logout after upgrading to KDE 3.5.5 Message-ID: Yesterday I upgraded to KDE 3.5.5 and now, when I try to close my session in KDE I get a crash report (no backtrace available) that says ksmserver has crashed with a signal 11 SIGSEGV. Has anybody seen this behavior? I searched the KDE bugs database but didn't find somehing similar. I am not familiar with ksmserver at all and don't know how to start troubleshooting this problem. Any pointers greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- Ylan From jeremy at jdli.net Fri Oct 13 15:35:16 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (jeremy anderson) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:35:16 -0400 Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <452F9F82.1090601@eapps.com> References: <452EB7B3.7060301@eapps.com> <200610121833.58621.jeremy@jdli.net> <452F9F82.1090601@eapps.com> Message-ID: <200610131135.16486.jeremy@jdli.net> better yet go to kmenu > System > Kinfocenter find the usb devices let us know what is there. It should give some chipset info too. ie.. atheros, etc... On Friday 13 October 2006 10:15, Bill Coker wrote: > Jeremy Anderson wrote: > > Which version of kubuntu? > > > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:46, Bill Coker wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> > >> I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to install, > >> confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the things > >> that it could not setup. > >> > >> 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC > >> [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] > >> > >> I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the steps > >> needed. > >> > >> Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using package > >> manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel already > >> provides the required modules". > >> > >> I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm > >> thinking I still may need to install it? > >> > >> MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on board > >> with everything else :) > >> > >> 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some other > >> documentation on the steps required to get her running. > >> > >> I appreciate any assistance. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill > > Jeremy, > > I'm sorry, I guess that would have been helpful; > > Kubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper > installed from live CD. From frode at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 13 15:41:17 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:41:17 +0200 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610131150.25364.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200610131741.18827.frode@ubuntu.com> Fredag 13 oktober 2006 15:54, skrev Henri Girard: > Maybe today ... lol > but not the day it went out ?? > i am on edgy beta > is edgy gone out ? [cut] Edgy is not released yet, no. If you update with Adept, you'll get KDE 3.5.5. - Frode From billcoker at eapps.com Fri Oct 13 15:52:09 2006 From: billcoker at eapps.com (Bill Coker) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:52:09 -0400 Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610131135.16486.jeremy@jdli.net> References: <452EB7B3.7060301@eapps.com> <200610121833.58621.jeremy@jdli.net> <452F9F82.1090601@eapps.com> <200610131135.16486.jeremy@jdli.net> Message-ID: <452FB629.4040307@eapps.com> Jeremy, root at bill-laptop:/home/bill# lsusb Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0084 Microsoft Corp. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Currently I'm at work and did not bring the Linksys with me so it's not hooked up atm. It shows 3 USB Host Controller OHCI Host Controller (2) is the only one with a device which is my mouse currently. When I get home I will hook up the linksys and reply with the information it provides. Thanks so much for your assistance. jeremy anderson wrote: > better yet go to kmenu > System > Kinfocenter > find the usb devices > let us know what is there. It should give some chipset info too. ie.. > atheros, etc... > > On Friday 13 October 2006 10:15, Bill Coker wrote: > >> Jeremy Anderson wrote: >> >>> Which version of kubuntu? >>> >>> On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:46, Bill Coker wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to install, >>>> confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the things >>>> that it could not setup. >>>> >>>> 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC >>>> [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] >>>> >>>> I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the steps >>>> needed. >>>> >>>> Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using package >>>> manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel already >>>> provides the required modules". >>>> >>>> I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm >>>> thinking I still may need to install it? >>>> >>>> MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on board >>>> with everything else :) >>>> >>>> 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some other >>>> documentation on the steps required to get her running. >>>> >>>> I appreciate any assistance. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bill >>>> >> Jeremy, >> >> I'm sorry, I guess that would have been helpful; >> >> Kubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper >> installed from live CD. >> > > From rscrawford at mossroot.com Fri Oct 13 15:59:27 2006 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:59:27 -0700 Subject: KPilot losing data Message-ID: <200610130859.28369.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Since upgrading to KDE 3.5.5 I have had nothing but trouble with my Sony Clie and KPilot. I've tried creating events in my Clie's calendar, but when I press the hotsync button, not only do the events not show up in Korganizer, they disappear from my Clie, even though the KPilot's hotsync log shows that it's synchronizing normally. This even happens if I set KPilot to "Copy handheld to PC". This also happens with my "To do" entries. Basically, because of this, my calendar and my "to do" list have both been completely wiped out. I've blown away my .kde/share/apps/kpilot directory and let it be recreated, and also reinstalled KPilot via apt-get. I don't suppose anyone knows what this might be about and how to fix it? -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief at Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) Check out the Cthulhu Wiki: http://www.mossroot.com/cthulhuwiki AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: underpope at gmail.com Skype/Gizmo: underpope "You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus." (Mark Twain) From ylan.segal at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 16:16:18 2006 From: ylan.segal at gmail.com (Ylan Segal) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:16:18 -0400 Subject: Active X emulation in Konq? References: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> Message-ID: anthony baldwin wrote: > Hi, > > I am faced with losing a rather lucrative translation contract, if I > can´t access a site that is requiring IE5 or ¨better¨ > I have set Konqueror to identify as IE6, but the site still tells me > that I can not access all featuers > (which I need to do), without setting Active X enabled and listing the > site as ¨Trusted¨. > I´m at a loss. > I had thought it was possible to run IE with wine, but I am unable to DL > IE, without > ¨validating my windows installation¨, which, of course, I don´t even have. > I need this work. You can try crossover office (www.codeweavers.com). It lets me run IE 6 reasonably well. The license does cost some money, but you can download a 30 day trial and see if it suits your needs and the price is right for you. -- Ylan From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Fri Oct 13 16:21:26 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:21:26 -0400 Subject: Active X emulation in Konq? In-Reply-To: References: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> Message-ID: <452FBD06.2090605@optonline.net> Ylan Segal wrote: >anthony baldwin wrote: > > > >>Hi, >> >>I am faced with losing a rather lucrative translation contract, if I >>can´t access a site that is requiring IE5 or ¨better¨ >>I have set Konqueror to identify as IE6, but the site still tells me >>that I can not access all featuers >>(which I need to do), without setting Active X enabled and listing the >>site as ¨Trusted¨. >>I´m at a loss. >>I had thought it was possible to run IE with wine, but I am unable to DL >>IE, without >>¨validating my windows installation¨, which, of course, I don´t even have. >>I need this work. >> >> > >You can try crossover office (www.codeweavers.com). It lets me run IE 6 >reasonably well. The license does cost some money, but you can download a >30 day trial and see if it suits your needs and the price is right for you. > > > Yeah, but I can´t download IE. The Microsoft site demands Windows verification to initiate the download, even. tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 16:32:55 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:32:55 +0200 Subject: Any reason why the Capture toggle of KMix turns itself off? Message-ID: <880dece00610130932t756ebdfcg2d3dffc1d82714fd@mail.gmail.com> Because the Capture toggle in KMix turns itself off, I have great difficulty in using the microphone. I see that I'm not the only one with this issue, however, I don't see any solutions. Is there in fact a solution to this problem? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/ http://simplesniff.com/ From leomcabral at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 16:41:04 2006 From: leomcabral at gmail.com (Leonardo de Miranda Cabral) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:41:04 -0300 Subject: Active X emulation in Konq? In-Reply-To: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> References: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200610131341.07135.leomcabral@gmail.com> Em Sexta 13 Outubro 2006 12:15, anthony baldwin escreveu: > Hi, > > I am faced with losing a rather lucrative translation contract, if I > can´t access a site that is requiring IE5 or ¨better¨ > I have set Konqueror to identify as IE6, but the site still tells me > that I can not access all featuers > (which I need to do), without setting Active X enabled and listing the > site as ¨Trusted¨. > I´m at a loss. > I had thought it was possible to run IE with wine, but I am unable to DL > IE, without > ¨validating my windows installation¨, which, of course, I don´t even have. > I need this work. > Any ideas? > And to think...I deleted an XP install on an unused disk just a couple > of weeks ago. > It was functional, at least so far as Windows is capable of being > functional, but I never used it, so deleted it. > Now I am wishing I still had it. > > Tony > > -- > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- > M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- > G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site > http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography > http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu > advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor > business Try this (I'd never used it): http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/plugin.htm It's a plugin for Firefox but still in development :( -- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral msn: leo_m_c at hotmail.com blog: leonardocabral.eti.br/blog [new] Espera Feliz - MG Brasil -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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HTH, -Liz From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Fri Oct 13 17:46:53 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:46:53 -0700 Subject: Flash install Message-ID: <200610131046.53944.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> any easy way to get flash working in firefox? I tried easyubuntu and t just hangs -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From newslists at resrequest.com Fri Oct 13 17:37:11 2006 From: newslists at resrequest.com (Richard Howes) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:37:11 +0200 Subject: HOw to upgrade to Edgy Beta Message-ID: <200610131937.11351.newslists@resrequest.com> Hi All, I am a "bleeding edge" junkie and would like to upgrade my Dapper to Edgy. How do i go about it? Do I have to download an iso or is there an upgrade possibility (which I assume would reduce the download size required. Thanks Cheers Richard -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Oct 13 17:46:11 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:46:11 +0100 Subject: HOw to upgrade to Edgy Beta In-Reply-To: <200610131937.11351.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610131937.11351.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <452FD0E3.8070406@blueyonder.co.uk> Richard Howes wrote: > Hi All, > > I am a "bleeding edge" junkie and would like to upgrade my Dapper to Edgy. How > do i go about it? Do I have to download an iso or is there an upgrade > possibility (which I assume would reduce the download size required. > > Thanks > Cheers > > Richard > > First make sure you are all up-to-date, then just chenge every occurrence of "dapper" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to "edgy", eg. "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse" Then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Then go watch TV for a while for the updates to download. Tez From henrigira at numericable.fr Fri Oct 13 17:52:21 2006 From: henrigira at numericable.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:52:21 +0200 Subject: HOw to upgrade to Edgy Beta In-Reply-To: <452FD0E3.8070406@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200610131937.11351.newslists@resrequest.com> <452FD0E3.8070406@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: and maybe expect to have to reinstall all !!! lol Henri On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:46:11 +0200, Tez wrote: > Richard Howes wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I am a "bleeding edge" junkie and would like to upgrade my Dapper to >> Edgy. How >> do i go about it? Do I have to download an iso or is there an upgrade >> possibility (which I assume would reduce the download size required. >> >> Thanks >> Cheers >> >> Richard >> >> > First make sure you are all up-to-date, then just chenge every > occurrence of "dapper" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to "edgy", eg. > "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe > multiverse" > > Then run > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > Then go watch TV for a while for the updates to download. > > Tez > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From henrigira at numericable.fr Fri Oct 13 17:53:48 2006 From: henrigira at numericable.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:53:48 +0200 Subject: Flash install In-Reply-To: <200610131046.53944.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <200610131046.53944.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: www.getautomatix.com but is still version 7.xx Henri On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:46:53 +0200, Grumpy_Penguin wrote: > any easy way to get flash working in firefox? > I tried easyubuntu and t just hangs -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From newslists at resrequest.com Fri Oct 13 17:54:14 2006 From: newslists at resrequest.com (Richard Howes) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:54:14 +0200 Subject: Changing themes Message-ID: <200610131954.14950.newslists@resrequest.com> Hi All, I am getting a bit confused about the themes on kde-look.org and how to install them. I installed dekorator but cont seem to find out how to use it. Thanks Cheers Richard -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Fri Oct 13 18:07:40 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:07:40 -0400 Subject: MORE: Cups problem ( oh, this is nice ) Bug !!! In-Reply-To: <200610130700.23313.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <452F6E8F.6090806@rmk.co.il> <200610130700.23313.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200610131407.41216.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> hmm, fat chance, I did just exactly that, and NOW, I get even get into printer setup, nor kprinter... Dead in the water with cups. it keeps crashing and error about localhost. Rich On Friday 13 October 2006 9:00 am, Ron Morse wrote: > That did  not work for me with the Edgy beta, but perversely > using kprinter to change the cups server address > from /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 to localhost got the > server going again. I did have to reinstall the printers > into CUPS before they would print, but all is well now. > > RBM From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Fri Oct 13 18:23:12 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:23:12 -0400 Subject: How can I upgrade kdenetwork? -- SOLUTION In-Reply-To: References: <200610122118.49639.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610131423.13431.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> In my sources.list the relevant line read: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 main dapper instead of: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 dapper main Switching the words also switched the priority of the archives. Problem solved. Thanks to list and the users for all the help. Bob -- Let us endeavor so to live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Fri Oct 13 18:28:03 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:28:03 -0400 Subject: Is an update to Edgy recommended? Message-ID: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> While loving to live on the "bleeding edge", I also appreciate a measure of stability (or the shadow of) in my applications. Has Edgy made enough development progress for an upgrade? Would I be risking a total machine meltdown or merely some broken apps? Thanks, Bob From henrigira at numericable.fr Fri Oct 13 18:33:20 2006 From: henrigira at numericable.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:33:20 +0200 Subject: Is an update to Edgy recommended? In-Reply-To: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: i use it since knot1 ... but the beta version is very stable for a beta i compiled kde4 too with it... because the krash snapshot has some problem in my opinion... (i prefer the svn which is going fast too...) i would suggest you to get it... cheers Henri On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:28:03 +0200, Robert Tilley wrote: > While loving to live on the "bleeding edge", I also appreciate a measure > of > stability (or the shadow of) in my applications. > > Has Edgy made enough development progress for an upgrade? Would I be > risking > a total machine meltdown or merely some broken apps? > > Thanks, Bob > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From rbmorse at comcast.net Fri Oct 13 19:08:36 2006 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:08:36 -0600 Subject: MORE: Cups problem ( oh, this is nice ) Bug !!! In-Reply-To: <200610131407.41216.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <200610130700.23313.rbmorse@comcast.net> <200610131407.41216.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610131308.36806.rbmorse@comcast.net> what happens with: sudo foomatic-cleanupdrivers in a term window? On Friday 13 October 2006 12:07, Richard wrote: > hmm, fat chance, I did just exactly that, and NOW, > I get even get into printer setup, nor kprinter... > Dead in the water with cups. > > it keeps crashing and error about localhost. > > > Rich > > On Friday 13 October 2006 9:00 am, Ron Morse wrote: > > That did  not work for me with the Edgy beta, but > > perversely using kprinter to change the cups server > > address from /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631 to localhost > > got the server going again. I did have to reinstall the > > printers into CUPS before they would print, but all is > > well now. > > > > RBM From haroldh at midmaine.com Fri Oct 13 19:30:16 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:30:16 -0400 Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one Message-ID: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look for so I can get it for the sale price I see. I hope someone can help me with the info. Thanks Harold From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 19:45:34 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:45:34 -0700 Subject: Volune in KDE and other minor issues In-Reply-To: <44A768E9.2010209@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00606240536s2c45ca54r95f9f7e8c6f7a681@mail.gmail.com> <200606242036.08526.alvonsius.albert@gmail.com> <880dece00606241035i1cf34638rbf0129520e4d350b@mail.gmail.com> <200606250110.52422.alvonsius.albert@gmail.com> <880dece00606241124x401c28d8ib87306a4c61f7e4d@mail.gmail.com> <449E40FA.80208@hccnet.nl> <44A76639.2070706@verizon.net> <44A768E9.2010209@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <452FECDE.1030402@angrykeyboarder.com> ", "Tez spake thusy);: > Matthew Kuiken wrote: > Well it's not seen as something that the "average" user is going to > need, as you use the package manager to install most things. But > build-essential is one of the 1st things I install right after an install. I beg to differ. It's especially important to KDE users. Since KDE decided to make themes overly difficult to install having build-essential is a must since so many themes need to be compiled from source. I've been using Linux on and off since 1999 an not until this past year had I ever compiled a package from source. I finally decided to learn it because I got tired of denying myself software that wasn't available in package format (.deb now and .rpm previously). I don't know squat about programming or writing software. But I have found (as an average user) the need to compile software from source. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 19:45:34 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:45:34 -0700 Subject: Volune in KDE and other minor issues In-Reply-To: <44A768E9.2010209@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00606240536s2c45ca54r95f9f7e8c6f7a681@mail.gmail.com> <200606242036.08526.alvonsius.albert@gmail.com> <880dece00606241035i1cf34638rbf0129520e4d350b@mail.gmail.com> <200606250110.52422.alvonsius.albert@gmail.com> <880dece00606241124x401c28d8ib87306a4c61f7e4d@mail.gmail.com> <449E40FA.80208@hccnet.nl> <44A76639.2070706@verizon.net> <44A768E9.2010209@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <452FECDE.1030402@angrykeyboarder.com> ", "Tez spake thusy);: > Matthew Kuiken wrote: > Well it's not seen as something that the "average" user is going to > need, as you use the package manager to install most things. But > build-essential is one of the 1st things I install right after an install. I beg to differ. It's especially important to KDE users. Since KDE decided to make themes overly difficult to install having build-essential is a must since so many themes need to be compiled from source. I've been using Linux on and off since 1999 an not until this past year had I ever compiled a package from source. I finally decided to learn it because I got tired of denying myself software that wasn't available in package format (.deb now and .rpm previously). I don't know squat about programming or writing software. But I have found (as an average user) the need to compile software from source. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Fri Oct 13 19:47:11 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:47:11 -0400 Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> References: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200610131547.11182.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> On Friday 13 October 2006 3:30 pm, Harold Hartley wrote: > I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 > All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. > I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look > for so I can get it for the sale price I see. > > I hope someone can help me with the info. > > Thanks > Harold Hmm, type it in, nothing came back... ??? your guess, on this. Rich From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 19:48:41 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:48:41 -0700 Subject: Is an update to Edgy recommended? In-Reply-To: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <452FED99.6030208@angrykeyboarder.com> Robert Tilley spake thusy: > While loving to live on the "bleeding edge", I also appreciate a measure of > stability (or the shadow of) in my applications. > > Has Edgy made enough development progress for an upgrade? Would I be risking > a total machine meltdown or merely some broken apps? I just decided to download a Daily CD several weeks ago and I've found it to be very stable. Just don't get used to anything in particular because it's subject to change. :-) You'll find on some days you get as many as 3 updates. But stability wise it's as good as Dapper is right now. Of course as they say, ymmv. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 19:48:41 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:48:41 -0700 Subject: Is an update to Edgy recommended? In-Reply-To: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <452FED99.6030208@angrykeyboarder.com> Robert Tilley spake thusy: > While loving to live on the "bleeding edge", I also appreciate a measure of > stability (or the shadow of) in my applications. > > Has Edgy made enough development progress for an upgrade? Would I be risking > a total machine meltdown or merely some broken apps? I just decided to download a Daily CD several weeks ago and I've found it to be very stable. Just don't get used to anything in particular because it's subject to change. :-) You'll find on some days you get as many as 3 updates. But stability wise it's as good as Dapper is right now. Of course as they say, ymmv. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From gcarst at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 19:53:32 2006 From: gcarst at gmail.com (Gunner) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:53:32 +0200 Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: <200610131547.11182.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> References: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> <200610131547.11182.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_C3180 2006/10/13, Richard : > > On Friday 13 October 2006 3:30 pm, Harold Hartley wrote: > > I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 > > All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. > > I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look > > for so I can get it for the sale price I see. > > > > I hope someone can help me with the info. > > > > Thanks > > Harold > > > Hmm, type it in, nothing came back... ??? > your guess, on this. > > Rich > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cms01 at tampabay.rr.com Fri Oct 13 19:55:27 2006 From: cms01 at tampabay.rr.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:55:27 -0400 Subject: MORE: Cups problem ( oh, this is nice ) Bug !!! In-Reply-To: <200610131308.36806.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200610121902.59316.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <200610131407.41216.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> <200610131308.36806.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200610131555.28643.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Well, at first it let me into system setting, where I did change back, the localhost to :/var/run/cups/cups.sock however, can not launch cups to remove add line localhost for list. Rich On Friday 13 October 2006 3:08 pm, Ron Morse wrote: > what happens with: > > sudo foomatic-cleanupdrivers > > in a term window? From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 19:57:59 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:57:59 +0200 Subject: Volune in KDE and other minor issues In-Reply-To: <452FECDE.1030402@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <880dece00606240536s2c45ca54r95f9f7e8c6f7a681@mail.gmail.com> <200606242036.08526.alvonsius.albert@gmail.com> <880dece00606241035i1cf34638rbf0129520e4d350b@mail.gmail.com> <200606250110.52422.alvonsius.albert@gmail.com> <880dece00606241124x401c28d8ib87306a4c61f7e4d@mail.gmail.com> <449E40FA.80208@hccnet.nl> <44A76639.2070706@verizon.net> <44A768E9.2010209@blueyonder.co.uk> <452FECDE.1030402@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610131257wdbbf0aci1b7ab6a260f02228@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Scott wrote: > ", "Tez spake thusy);: > > Matthew Kuiken wrote: > > > Well it's not seen as something that the "average" user is going to > > need, as you use the package manager to install most things. But > > build-essential is one of the 1st things I install right after an install. > > I beg to differ. > > It's especially important to KDE users. Since KDE decided to make > themes overly difficult to install having build-essential is a must > since so many themes need to be compiled from source. > > I've been using Linux on and off since 1999 an not until this past year > had I ever compiled a package from source. I finally decided to learn > it because I got tired of denying myself software that wasn't available > in package format (.deb now and .rpm previously). > > I don't know squat about programming or writing software. But I have > found (as an average user) the need to compile software from source. I couldn't agree more. Building from source is still the most basic and interoperable method of installing software. There's no reason that any distro should be without the tools to do such. By the way, here's an ugly but useful guide to building from source: http://essentialinux.com/source.php Dotan Cohen http://nanir.com/ http://nirot.com/ From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Fri Oct 13 20:24:53 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:24:53 -0700 Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: References: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> <200610131547.11182.cms01@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610131324.53363.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Friday 13 October 2006 12:53 pm, Gunner wrote: > http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_C3180 > > 2006/10/13, Richard : > > On Friday 13 October 2006 3:30 pm, Harold Hartley wrote: > > > I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 > > > All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. > > > I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look > > > for so I can get it for the sale price I see. > > > > > > I hope someone can help me with the info. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Harold > > > > Hmm, type it in, nothing came back... ??? > > your guess, on this. > > > > Rich http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_3100 > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 20:02:44 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:02:44 -0700 Subject: Active X emulation in Konq? In-Reply-To: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> References: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> Message-ID: <452FF0E4.6020104@angrykeyboarder.com> ", "anthony baldwin spake thusy);: > Hi, > > I am faced with losing a rather lucrative translation contract, if I > can´t access a site that is requiring IE5 or ¨better¨ > I have set Konqueror to identify as IE6, but the site still tells me > that I can not access all featuers > (which I need to do), without setting Active X enabled and listing the > site as ¨Trusted¨. > I´m at a loss. > I had thought it was possible to run IE with wine, but I am unable to DL > IE, without > ¨validating my windows installation¨, which, of course, I don´t even have. > I need this work. > Any ideas? I've got a few ideas. 1) Try Firefox instead of Konqueror. There is an ActiveX plugin for Firefox (although I'm not sure if it's compatible with the Linux version of Firefox). I've not used it myself, just because of my aversion to ActiveX in general. http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm 2) Get Wine Tools. It comes with an older IE 6 Downloader that doesn't require you to "validate your Windows installation" Unfortunately, (unlike in Fedora Core) there is no Wine Tools Debian/Ubuntu package. There is a tarball though (I think it's source - I'm not sure). http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/index.html -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 20:06:35 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:06:35 +0200 Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> References: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610131306r2946d087t27ebae5a51380d44@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Harold Hartley wrote: > I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 > All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. > I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look > for so I can get it for the sale price I see. > > I hope someone can help me with the info. > > Thanks > Harold > I have the HP OfficeJet 4255 All-In-One. On my HP, it seems that the scanner must be configured in windows. There may be a workaround, I haven't looked to deeply into it. Dotan Cohen http://lahes.com/ http://hohah.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 20:17:56 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:17:56 +0200 Subject: How is iozone3 as a benchmarker Message-ID: <880dece00610131317m15f82b59uad954e6d0f1ef3ef@mail.gmail.com> I need to test to see why my system is slwoing down to the point of almost being unusable. Is iozone3 recognised as a good tool for the job? I've just found it while googling. Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions. Dotan Cohen http://fiifke.com http://dagot.com From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 20:20:43 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:20:43 -0700 Subject: How can I upgrade kdenetwork? In-Reply-To: <200610122118.49639.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200610122118.49639.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <452FF51B.1020309@angrykeyboarder.com> ", "Robert Tilley spake thusy);: > After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, my kdenetwork remains at 3.5.2. > > The relevant portion of source.list is: > > # KDE 3.5.5 packages > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 main dapper > > Should the "dapper" be replaced by "edgy" as has been mentioned? Just for future reference, I've found snooping around apt repositories can teach you a lot about them. For example: I went to http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-355 And found this: Name Last modified Size Description[DIR] Parent Directory - [ ] ARCHIVE 03-Oct-2006 17:09 4.1K [ ] RSYNC 13-Oct-2006 11:42 308 [DIR] dists/ 03-Oct-2006 17:05 - [DIR] pool-dapper/ 13-Oct-2006 11:17 - [DIR] pool-edgy/ 08-Oct-2006 02:07 - -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 20:27:51 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:27:51 -0700 Subject: ReiserFS in trouble In-Reply-To: <452F6378.5010301@gmail.com> References: <20061012215804.GA9001@let.rug.nl> <200610122146.51829.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <75e605190610130007g318da0b5kc9e7120301cd8b8a@mail.gmail.com> <452F6378.5010301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <452FF6C7.50200@angrykeyboarder.com> ", "O. Sinclair spake thusy);: > Don't know if anyone here is using ReiserFS but just read that Novell is > changing over to Ext3 - and that Hans Reiser has been arrested on > suspicion of murdering his wife! The two are unrelated of course. he Reiser suspicion and later arrest story has been all over for some time now. And lastly if you're going to start a new topic, please don't hijack (add to) an existing thread. Start a new one. It can be rather confusing. Thanks. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 20:40:45 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:40:45 -0700 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <452FF9CD.6040609@angrykeyboarder.com> John DeCarlo spake thusy: > > I think the user community should stand up and say - we want the real > Firefox, not some bizarro-world version put out by Debian, Ubuntu, X, > Y, or Z. There's nothing preventing you from using Mozilla's compiled version for Linux. I've done that for some time now (that is till I discovered SwiftFox). Either will also run faster than the Debian/Ubuntu version (that's been my experience). http://getfirefox.com or ..... http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.7/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.5.0.7.tar.gz http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0rc2/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0rc2.tar.gz Or check out SwiftFox which I recently became a convert to. http://getswiftfox.com/ -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Fri Oct 13 20:52:14 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:52:14 -0700 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <452FFC7E.8040904@angrykeyboarder.com> Brendan spake thusy: > On Thursday 12 October 2006 10:38, John DeCarlo wrote: >> I think the user community should stand up and say - we want the real >> Firefox, not some bizarro-world version put out by Debian, Ubuntu, X, >> Y, or Z. > > You live on bizzarro world I think. Distributors are encouraged to add their > own links, etc. to applications to make it feel more "customized". It's not > like you are being tricked. Give me a break. Please, stop armchair > quarterbacking here. But replacing a well-known, popular and downright "jazzy" icon with a a globe (which is the Firefox logo, sans-fox) is just asinine if you ask me. It's a very popular, well-designed piece of artwork that is as much a part of Firefox as is tabbed browsing and extensions. KDE, GNOME, XFCE and their respective logos are registered trademarks as well. You don't see Debian or Ubuntu messing with their default artwork. Even with customized themes. The defaults are still available. In the case of Firefox they aren't. There are instructios in the Ubuntu Forums on how to replace the Ubuntu default Firefox and Thunderbird logos with the original. Firefox is a very popular program and my expeirnce has been that most new Linux users were using it in Windows. They would expect to see their favorite web browser with it's familiar icon. We're not being tricked. We're just the victims of stupid politics. On the other hand, I'm not happy with Kubuntu crippling KDE features. But at least they (only recently) show you how to uncripple them. Of course hopefully they'll add "$ sudo rm /.hidden /media/.hidden" to the FAQ as well. It's a new "feature" in Edgy that many users will become quite irritated with very quickly. Customize all you you want Linux distros. It is Open Source, but don't remove/cripple/mess with *common* and popular features/programs that *users* have come to *expect*. -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 23:45:00 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:45:00 +0200 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452FF9CD.6040609@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <452FF9CD.6040609@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610131645n6c450636r9342672cf04af382@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Scott wrote: > There's nothing preventing you from using Mozilla's compiled version for > Linux. I've done that for some time now (that is till I discovered > SwiftFox). Either will also run faster than the Debian/Ubuntu version > (that's been my experience). > > http://getfirefox.com > > or ..... > > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.7/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.5.0.7.tar.gz > > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0rc2/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0rc2.tar.gz > > Or check out SwiftFox which I recently became a convert to. > > http://getswiftfox.com/ That bad boy should come with Ubuntu. As should the architecture specific kernels. Dotan Cohen http://slashedot.com http://slashedot.org From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 23:45:00 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:45:00 +0200 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452FF9CD.6040609@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <452FF9CD.6040609@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610131645n6c450636r9342672cf04af382@mail.gmail.com> On 13/10/06, Scott wrote: > There's nothing preventing you from using Mozilla's compiled version for > Linux. I've done that for some time now (that is till I discovered > SwiftFox). Either will also run faster than the Debian/Ubuntu version > (that's been my experience). > > http://getfirefox.com > > or ..... > > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.7/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.5.0.7.tar.gz > > http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0rc2/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0rc2.tar.gz > > Or check out SwiftFox which I recently became a convert to. > > http://getswiftfox.com/ That bad boy should come with Ubuntu. As should the architecture specific kernels. Dotan Cohen http://slashedot.com http://slashedot.org From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Sat Oct 14 03:58:01 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:58:01 -0400 Subject: Active X emulation in Konq? In-Reply-To: <452FF0E4.6020104@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> <452FF0E4.6020104@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <45306049.2050507@bellsouth.net> Scott wrote: > ", "anthony baldwin spake thusy);: > >> Hi, >> >> I am faced with losing a rather lucrative translation contract, if I >> can´t access a site that is requiring IE5 or ¨better¨ >> I have set Konqueror to identify as IE6, but the site still tells me >> that I can not access all featuers >> (which I need to do), without setting Active X enabled and listing the >> site as ¨Trusted¨. >> I´m at a loss. >> I had thought it was possible to run IE with wine, but I am unable to DL >> IE, without >> ¨validating my windows installation¨, which, of course, I don´t even have. >> I need this work. >> Any ideas? >> > > I've got a few ideas. > > 1) Try Firefox instead of Konqueror. There is an ActiveX plugin for > Firefox (although I'm not sure if it's compatible with the Linux version > of Firefox). I've not used it myself, just because of my aversion to > ActiveX in general. > > http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/mozilla.htm > > > 2) Get Wine Tools. It comes with an older IE 6 Downloader that doesn't > require you to "validate your Windows installation" > > Unfortunately, (unlike in Fedora Core) there is no Wine Tools > Debian/Ubuntu package. > > There is a tarball though (I think it's source - I'm not sure). > > http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/index.html > > Actually, wine tools isn't supported very well in newer wine versions use ies4linux ( http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page) instead. It automatically downloads and installs ie6 without messing up the wine installation. It works in (Xu,Ku,U)buntu, too. From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 14 04:17:20 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: <452FE948.2060902@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <20061014041720.46964.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Harold Hartley wrote: I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look for so I can get it for the sale price I see. I hope someone can help me with the info. Thanks Harold -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I recently purchased a C3140....same basic series it uses a C3100 driver set Ubuntu breezy and dapper would not scan. Printing worked however. It was necessary to compile the latest HPILP Every thing works fine Apparently Ubuntu left something out. It als works as a network printer which is unsupported and NOT possible in windows. Good buy: compiling hpilp is not difficult. took about 20 minutes to set it all up/ Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 14 04:27:52 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: <20061014041720.46964.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061014042752.43525.qmail@web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bry Melvin wrote: Harold Hartley wrote: I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look for so I can get it for the sale price I see. I hope someone can help me with the info. Thanks Harold -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I recently purchased a C3140....same basic series it uses a C3100 driver set Ubuntu breezy and dapper would not scan. Printing worked however. It was necessary to compile the latest HPILP Every thing works fine Apparently Ubuntu left something out. It als works as a network printer which is unsupported and NOT possible in windows. Good buy: compiling hpilp is not difficult. took about 20 minutes to set it all up/ Bryann -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Clarification: scanner worked fine after compiling HPILP I also filed a bug report as since Ubuntu uses HPILP there should be no reasonthat the Ubuntu installed HPILP doesn;t work completely. 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URL: From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sat Oct 14 05:18:14 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:18:14 -0700 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <880dece00610131645n6c450636r9342672cf04af382@mail.gmail.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <452FF9CD.6040609@angrykeyboarder.com> <880dece00610131645n6c450636r9342672cf04af382@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45307316.9000803@angrykeyboarder.com> ", "Dotan Cohen spake thusy);: > On 13/10/06, Scott wrote: >> There's nothing preventing you from using Mozilla's compiled version for >> Linux. I've done that for some time now (that is till I discovered >> SwiftFox). Either will also run faster than the Debian/Ubuntu version >> (that's been my experience). >> >> http://getfirefox.com >> >> or ..... >> >> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.7/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.5.0.7.tar.gz >> >> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0rc2/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-2.0rc2.tar.gz >> >> Or check out SwiftFox which I recently became a convert to. >> >> http://getswiftfox.com/ > > That bad boy should come with Ubuntu. As should the architecture > specific kernels. > > Dotan Cohen If I understand correctly there's no need for architecture specific Kernels anymore due to the fact that the Kernel detects the architecture at boot and configures itself accordingly (that's the non-geek way of explaining it - assuming I have it right). -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Sat Oct 14 06:18:40 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:18:40 -0700 Subject: Changing themes In-Reply-To: <200610131954.14950.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610131954.14950.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610132318.40700.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Friday 13 October 2006 10:54, Richard Howes wrote: > Hi All, > > I am getting a bit confused about the themes on kde-look.org and how to > install them. I installed dekorator but cont seem to find out how to use > it. If you are running KDE with only Ubuntu's "System Settings" in the KMenu, then you should upload the original KDE Control Panel. As a long time user of KDE, I installed my right from the start, as I did not know that Ubuntu decided that theirs was good enough. Aside from that, In the KDE Control Panel, under Appearance and Themes, you will find a theme manager. There you have a GUI to install and manage themes. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From gmane at auxbuss.com Sat Oct 14 09:04:27 2006 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:04:27 +0100 Subject: firefox + logo References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <452FFC7E.8040904@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: Scott said... > On the other hand, I'm not happy with Kubuntu crippling KDE features. > But at least they (only recently) show you how to uncripple them. Got a URL for that? > Of course hopefully they'll add > > "$ sudo rm /.hidden /media/.hidden" > > to the FAQ as well. It's a new "feature" in Edgy that many users will > become quite irritated with very quickly. Care to elucidate? > Customize all you you want Linux distros. It is Open Source, but don't > remove/cripple/mess with *common* and popular features/programs that > *users* have come to *expect*. I couldn't agree more; it's maddening. -- Best, Marc From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 10:48:12 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:48:12 +0200 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <45307316.9000803@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <18cdd8230610120658y390fabecp1e176fb6a9b817d1@mail.gmail.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <452FF9CD.6040609@angrykeyboarder.com> <880dece00610131645n6c450636r9342672cf04af382@mail.gmail.com> <45307316.9000803@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610140348x4cc9b6d8p2b3ffae514d84d4d@mail.gmail.com> On 14/10/06, Scott wrote: > If I understand correctly there's no need for architecture specific > Kernels anymore due to the fact that the Kernel detects the architecture > at boot and configures itself accordingly (that's the non-geek way of > explaining it - assuming I have it right). That sounds logical and all, but upgrading my kernel to i386 was something that _did_ help a lot. Hmm, I wonder if my kernel wasn't automatically updateed when running dist-upgrade recently? How does one go about checking what has been changed by apt-get? Is it possible that apt-get updated my kernel back to generic? Dotan Cohen http://ultu.com http://galill.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 11:13:51 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:13:51 +0200 Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: <20061014042752.43525.qmail@web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061014041720.46964.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20061014042752.43525.qmail@web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610140413q7a7c572ep552f3755a2018e6f@mail.gmail.com> > Clarification: scanner worked fine after compiling HPILP > > I also filed a bug report as since Ubuntu uses HPILP there should be no > reasonthat the Ubuntu installed HPILP doesn;t work completely. > > FWIW the sane XSANE docs and pages leave you in the dark concerning these > machines, The HPILP pages say scanning is supported, and is If you compile > yourself. > > Bryann Thanks, this is good to know. Dotan Cohen http://kubuntu.info http://cabab.com -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Oct 14 11:46:29 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:46:29 +0100 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <452FFC7E.8040904@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <4530CE15.7090009@blueyonder.co.uk> marc wrote: > Scott said... > > >> On the other hand, I'm not happy with Kubuntu crippling KDE features. >> But at least they (only recently) show you how to uncripple them. >> > > Got a URL for that? > > >> Of course hopefully they'll add >> >> "$ sudo rm /.hidden /media/.hidden" >> >> to the FAQ as well. It's a new "feature" in Edgy that many users will >> become quite irritated with very quickly. >> > > Care to elucidate? > > /.hidden and /media/.hidden are files that contain a list of files and directories that will be hidden by default in konqueror. So if you look at / in konqueror all you'll see is /home and /media The 1st time you open konqueror and look at / you're like, "Woah, where are all the directories", until you enable "Show hidden files" and see them all there including a new .hidden file. Tez From haroldh at midmaine.com Sat Oct 14 12:35:31 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:35:31 -0400 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <452FFC7E.8040904@angrykeyboarder.com> References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <452FFC7E.8040904@angrykeyboarder.com> Message-ID: <4530D993.7040800@midmaine.com> Scott wrote: > > > Brendan spake thusy: > >> On Thursday 12 October 2006 10:38, John DeCarlo wrote: >> >>> I think the user community should stand up and say - we want the real >>> Firefox, not some bizarro-world version put out by Debian, Ubuntu, X, >>> Y, or Z. >>> >> You live on bizzarro world I think. Distributors are encouraged to add their >> own links, etc. to applications to make it feel more "customized". It's not >> like you are being tricked. Give me a break. Please, stop armchair >> quarterbacking here. >> > > But replacing a well-known, popular and downright "jazzy" icon with a a > globe (which is the Firefox logo, sans-fox) is just asinine if you ask me. > > It's a very popular, well-designed piece of artwork that is as much a > part of Firefox as is tabbed browsing and extensions. > > KDE, GNOME, XFCE and their respective logos are registered trademarks as > well. You don't see Debian or Ubuntu messing with their default > artwork. Even with customized themes. The defaults are still > available. In the case of Firefox they aren't. > > There are instructios in the Ubuntu Forums on how to replace the Ubuntu > default Firefox and Thunderbird logos with the original. > > Firefox is a very popular program and my expeirnce has been that most > new Linux users were using it in Windows. They would expect to see > their favorite web browser with it's familiar icon. > > We're not being tricked. We're just the victims of stupid politics. > > On the other hand, I'm not happy with Kubuntu crippling KDE features. > But at least they (only recently) show you how to uncripple them. > What is the link to how to uncripple some of the kde features. > Of course hopefully they'll add > > "$ sudo rm /.hidden /media/.hidden" > > to the FAQ as well. It's a new "feature" in Edgy that many users will > become quite irritated with very quickly. > > Customize all you you want Linux distros. It is Open Source, but don't > remove/cripple/mess with *common* and popular features/programs that > *users* have come to *expect*. > > From jsidgman at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 13:22:08 2006 From: jsidgman at gmail.com (Jurgen Sidgman) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:22:08 -0500 Subject: gRip =?iso-8859-1?q?won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3?= encoder In-Reply-To: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> I have this same problem. Any one has any ideas? Thansk, jurgen On Sunday 01 October 2006 08:47, anthony baldwin wrote: > For some reason, when I try to use any mp3 encoder from gRip, I get some > message about including > the full path to the encoder. > Does this mean I don´t have the encoder installed? > I know...I can use ogg, but I have a dvd/cd/mp3 playing machine, and it > doesn´t play ogg, > and, I have had little success converting ogg back to wav to burn audio > cds, too. > > tony > > -- > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- > M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- > G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site > http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography > http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu > advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor > business From sivl at yahoo.com Sat Oct 14 13:27:56 2006 From: sivl at yahoo.com (SILVIU VLAD-NICULESCU) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 06:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one Message-ID: <20061014132756.91852.qmail@web36909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi I have HP All In One PSC 1510 which is the same with C3180 and it works excelent as printer and scanner also. HP have hplip software and you can find all what you need on this page http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html http://hplip.sourceforge.net/howtos/build.html or here http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip you can download the software and then install using the "howto" from the above page. I'm using KDE with another distro (SuSE 10.0) but this is for all Linux. Cheers, Silviu ----- Original Message ---- From: Richard To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Cc: Harold Hartley Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:47:11 PM Subject: Re: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one On Friday 13 October 2006 3:30 pm, Harold Hartley wrote: > I'm wondering if and where I can find out if the HP Photosmart C3180 > All-in-one type printer will work in linux or even in ubuntu/kubuntu. > I see a good deal on such a system and need to find out the info I look > for so I can get it for the sale price I see. > > I hope someone can help me with the info. > > Thanks > Harold Hmm, type it in, nothing came back... ??? your guess, on this. Rich -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You don't lose any sound quality, atleast nothing noticeable. I've used grip for years, but always convert to ogg by default since my entire library is ogg. > > > tony > > > > -- > > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > Version: 3.12 > > GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- > > M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- > > G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site > > http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography > > http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu > > advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor > > business > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Oct 14 14:04:02 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:04:02 +0200 Subject: Flash install In-Reply-To: References: <200610131046.53944.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: Henri Girard wrote the following on 13.10.2006 19:53: > www.getautomatix.com OP asked for an easy way to install flash. $ sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree couldn´t be easier imho. bye Thilo From gmane at auxbuss.com Sat Oct 14 16:37:59 2006 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:37:59 +0100 Subject: firefox + logo References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <452FFC7E.8040904@angrykeyboarder.com> <4530CE15.7090009@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Tez said... > marc wrote: > > Scott said... > > > > > >> On the other hand, I'm not happy with Kubuntu crippling KDE features. > >> But at least they (only recently) show you how to uncripple them. > >> > > > > Got a URL for that? > > > > > >> Of course hopefully they'll add > >> > >> "$ sudo rm /.hidden /media/.hidden" > >> > >> to the FAQ as well. It's a new "feature" in Edgy that many users will > >> become quite irritated with very quickly. > >> > > > > Care to elucidate? > > > > > /.hidden and /media/.hidden are files that contain a list of files and > directories that will be hidden by default in konqueror. So if you look > at / in konqueror all you'll see is /home and /media What's the purpose of that supposed to be? I haven't seen folk clamouring for such a, er, 'feature'. Surely, if Konqueror wants/needs it, then it should be part on its config, and its config alone. > The 1st time you open konqueror and look at / you're like, "Woah, where > are all the directories", until you enable "Show hidden files" and see > them all there including a new .hidden file. Not that I use Konqueror, but I wonder whether it'll be broken in other file managers. -- Best, Marc From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sat Oct 14 17:21:35 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:21:35 -0700 Subject: gRip =?iso-8859-1?q?won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3?= encoder In-Reply-To: <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610141021.35987.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Saturday 14 October 2006 06:22 am, Jurgen Sidgman wrote: > I have this same problem. Any one has any ideas? > > Thansk, > > jurgen > > On Sunday 01 October 2006 08:47, anthony baldwin wrote: > > For some reason, when I try to use any mp3 encoder from gRip, I get some > > message about including > > the full path to the encoder. > > Does this mean I don´t have the encoder installed? > > I know...I can use ogg, but I have a dvd/cd/mp3 playing machine, and it > > doesn´t play ogg, > > and, I have had little success converting ogg back to wav to burn audio > > cds, too. > > > > tony Do you have Lame installed ? If so do a search for it [it should be in /user/share /bin your milage may vary ] and put the location in the grip encoder config > > > > -- > > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > Version: 3.12 > > GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- > > M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- > > G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site > > http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography > > http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu > > advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor > > business -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sat Oct 14 17:28:18 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:28:18 -0700 Subject: Flash install In-Reply-To: References: <200610131046.53944.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <200610141028.18476.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Saturday 14 October 2006 07:04 am, Thilo Six wrote: > Henri Girard wrote the following on 13.10.2006 19:53: > > www.getautomatix.com > > OP asked for an easy way to install flash. > > $ sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree > > couldn´t be easier imho. > > > bye Thilo Worked like a charm :-) -- Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" While you look for a rock..Will Rodgers From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sat Oct 14 16:49:40 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:49:40 -0700 Subject: gRip =?utf-8?Q?won=C2=B4t?= work with any mp3 encoder References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> Message-ID: <877iz2kfkr.fsf@fjellstad.org> anthony baldwin writes: > For some reason, when I try to use any mp3 encoder from gRip, I get some > message about including > the full path to the encoder. > Does this mean I don´t have the encoder installed? > I know...I can use ogg, but I have a dvd/cd/mp3 playing machine, and it > doesn´t play ogg, > and, I have had little success converting ogg back to wav to burn audio > cds, too. Do you have lame installed? At the command line type, which lame If not, install it. It's in the multiverse repository, so you have to enable it first. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From jsidgman at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 17:40:17 2006 From: jsidgman at gmail.com (Jurgen Sidgman) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 12:40:17 -0500 Subject: gRip =?utf-8?q?won=C2=B4t_work_with_any_mp3?= encoder In-Reply-To: <877iz2kfkr.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <877iz2kfkr.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200610141240.18626.jsidgman@gmail.com> Thanks to all of you guys! It was something really stupid. I just needed to write down the entire path to the executable (/usr/bin/lame). Somehow it does not get embedded into Grip. That solved the problem. jurgen On Saturday 14 October 2006 11:49, John L Fjellstad wrote: > anthony baldwin writes: > > For some reason, when I try to use any mp3 encoder from gRip, I get some > > message about including > > the full path to the encoder. > > Does this mean I don´t have the encoder installed? > > I know...I can use ogg, but I have a dvd/cd/mp3 playing machine, and it > > doesn´t play ogg, > > and, I have had little success converting ogg back to wav to burn audio > > cds, too. > > Do you have lame installed? At the command line type, > which lame > > If not, install it. It's in the multiverse repository, so you have to > enable it first. > > -- > John L. Fjellstad > web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 14 17:52:51 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Is an update to Edgy recommended? In-Reply-To: <200610131428.04224.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <20061014175251.56341.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Robert Tilley wrote: > While loving to live on the "bleeding edge", I also > appreciate a measure of > stability (or the shadow of) in my applications. > > Has Edgy made enough development progress for an > upgrade? Would I be risking > a total machine meltdown or merely some broken apps? > > Thanks, Bob > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > What are you using the computer for? Most of my PCs are for work I do. That's what the "LTS" in 6.06 is about. I anticipate keeping that for the full 3 year life cycle. On the other hand on my ibook, however 606 doesn't work as well as 5.04 did Still have no useable sleep . 5.04 had a kludge to make this work partially 5.10 the kludge didin't work 6.06 sleep worked but reset the clock to 1982 so I'm hoping 6.10 does better :-) if your computer is for work I'd say don't fix what isn't broke. Bleeding edge is nice sometimes I stay ther with Scribus...but often it may be better to just use the APP that you want bleeding edge and leave the OS at a stable version Bryann From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 18:25:45 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:25:45 +0200 Subject: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: References: <452E2B18.3070909@midmaine.com> <41129.198.105.65.197.1160662262.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <3dde113c0610120738g214512f5rdc8e7d48b8428@mail.gmail.com> <200610121106.48411.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <452FFC7E.8040904@angrykeyboarder.com> <4530CE15.7090009@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610141125i2e738b8erb8c0f08664b1d443@mail.gmail.com> On 14/10/06, marc wrote: > > /.hidden and /media/.hidden are files that contain a list of files and > > directories that will be hidden by default in konqueror. So if you look > > at / in konqueror all you'll see is /home and /media > > What's the purpose of that supposed to be? I haven't seen folk > clamouring for such a, er, 'feature'. Surely, if Konqueror wants/needs > it, then it should be part on its config, and its config alone. To copy OS-X > > The 1st time you open konqueror and look at / you're like, "Woah, where > > are all the directories", until you enable "Show hidden files" and see > > them all there including a new .hidden file. > > Not that I use Konqueror, but I wonder whether it'll be broken in other > file managers. It probably (I'm guessing) that the file manager must 'support' this. 'Support' could be built into Konsole and even the default shell, I suppose. Dotan Cohen http://rorot.com http://yadya.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 18:34:11 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:34:11 +0200 Subject: HP Photosmart C3180 All-in-one In-Reply-To: <20061014132756.91852.qmail@web36909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061014132756.91852.qmail@web36909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610141134i79594297l623a646ac899731c@mail.gmail.com> On 14/10/06, SILVIU VLAD-NICULESCU wrote: > > Hi > > I have HP All In One PSC 1510 which is the same with C3180 and it works > excelent as printer and scanner also. HP have hplip software and you can > find all what you need on this page > > http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index.html > > http://hplip.sourceforge.net/howtos/build.html > > or here > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip > you can download the software and then install using the "howto" from the > above page. > > I'm using KDE with another distro (SuSE 10.0) but this is for all Linux. > > Cheers, > > Silviu Thanks for the info, Silviu. However, next time, please dont't post in HTML, and please don't top-post. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://cabab.com http://bybon.com -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From carloscarnero at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 18:42:55 2006 From: carloscarnero at gmail.com (Carlos A. Carnero Delgado) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:42:55 -0400 Subject: Re-setting KDM screen size Message-ID: <2cbf87d0610141142m408ad326ma5d4989159afb9b2@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I have installed a fair share of PCs with Dapper, using the alternate installation CD. Believe it or not, I have never tried the Live one to make installs. Well, last night I did it, and, unsurprisingly, it went well. I have a question, however. The Live CD installed using 1024x768, which I promptly changed to 800x600 since this PC in question has a rather small display. After I login KDE will switch to 800x600 as told, but everytime I go back to KDM it snaps back to the original installation setting of 1024 x 768. How do I change KDM's screen size? Best regards, Carlos. -- grah windows just crashed again, unstable crap. Windows isn't unstable, it's just spontaneous. From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Sat Oct 14 19:33:45 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:33:45 -0400 Subject: gRip =?ISO-8859-1?Q?won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3_enco?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?der?= In-Reply-To: <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45313B99.7020206@bellsouth.net> Jurgen Sidgman wrote: > I have this same problem. Any one has any ideas? > > Thansk, > > jurgen > > On Sunday 01 October 2006 08:47, anthony baldwin wrote: > >> For some reason, when I try to use any mp3 encoder from gRip, I get some >> message about including >> the full path to the encoder. >> Does this mean I don´t have the encoder installed? >> I know...I can use ogg, but I have a dvd/cd/mp3 playing machine, and it >> doesn´t play ogg, >> and, I have had little success converting ogg back to wav to burn audio >> cds, too. >> >> tony >> >> -- >> >> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >> Version: 3.12 >> GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- >> M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- >> G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ >> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >> http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site >> http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography >> http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu >> advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor >> business >> > > Did you install lame? From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Sat Oct 14 19:33:55 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:33:55 -0400 Subject: gRip =?ISO-8859-1?Q?won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3_enco?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?der?= In-Reply-To: <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45313BA3.3090100@bellsouth.net> Jurgen Sidgman wrote: > I have this same problem. Any one has any ideas? > > Thansk, > > jurgen > > On Sunday 01 October 2006 08:47, anthony baldwin wrote: > >> For some reason, when I try to use any mp3 encoder from gRip, I get some >> message about including >> the full path to the encoder. >> Does this mean I don´t have the encoder installed? >> I know...I can use ogg, but I have a dvd/cd/mp3 playing machine, and it >> doesn´t play ogg, >> and, I have had little success converting ogg back to wav to burn audio >> cds, too. >> >> tony >> >> -- >> >> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- >> Version: 3.12 >> GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- >> M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- >> G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ >> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >> http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site >> http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography >> http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu >> advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor >> business >> > > Did you install lame? From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 14 21:55:03 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:55:03 +0200 Subject: Problems with KDE 3.5.5 Message-ID: <880dece00610141455o2c5b0dd3na2597768c6791eaa@mail.gmail.com> Now that I've upgraded to KDE 3.5.5 I find a few faults. 1) Whenever I connect a USB key, the popup asking "open folder" or "do nothing" appears twice. One is for root, the other is for user. So, if I accidentally click "open folder" on the wrong one (and I have no way of knowing which is the wrong one) then the key gets mounted as root. 2) In /home/user (hda9) I have mounted two other partitions, /home/user/pictures (hda5) and /home/user/music (hdb1). The icons for these two directories have been replaced with the mounted disk icon. The file .directory is still within these directories, but it is being ignored. Even when I try to change the icon, I see in the icon selection that the wanted icon is selected, however, this selection is overridden and the mounted disk icon is what I see in Konqueror. 3) I don't know if it's related, but I cannot start limewire from the button in Kmenu, nor from ALT-F2. However, I can start it from the console. No unusual output there, however. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html From rhaxton at swbell.net Fri Oct 13 21:43:52 2006 From: rhaxton at swbell.net (Roger Haxton) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:43:52 -0500 Subject: Active X emulation in Konq? In-Reply-To: <452FBD06.2090605@optonline.net> References: <452FAD74.9060405@optonline.net> <452FBD06.2090605@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200610131643.52667.rhaxton@swbell.net> On Friday 13 October 2006 11:21, anthony baldwin wrote: > Ylan Segal wrote: > >anthony baldwin wrote: > Yeah, but I can´t download IE. > The Microsoft site demands Windows verification to initiate the > download, even. IE6 doesn't require validation. At least from my box when I tried to download it. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/critical/ie6sp1/default.mspx -- ~R~ ---------------------------------------------------------- If you want me to be a good little bunny just dangle some carats in front of my nose. -- Lauren Bacall From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sun Oct 15 00:19:45 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re-setting KDM screen size In-Reply-To: <2cbf87d0610141142m408ad326ma5d4989159afb9b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061015001945.27475.qmail@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Carlos A. Carnero Delgado" wrote: > Hello, > > I have installed a fair share of PCs with Dapper, > using the alternate > installation CD. Believe it or not, I have never > tried the Live one to > make installs. Well, last night I did it, and, > unsurprisingly, it went > well. > > I have a question, however. The Live CD installed > using 1024x768, > which I promptly changed to 800x600 since this PC in > question has a > rather small display. After I login KDE will switch > to 800x600 as > told, but everytime I go back to KDM it snaps back > to the original > installation setting of 1024 x 768. > > How do I change KDM's screen size? > > Best regards, > Carlos. > -- hmm I think that would depend on Xorg setup. When run the installer it gives you the selections to pick from and then runs the highest (usuually) possible reolstion unless you've doctored the config file (haven't done that myself sinecd Xfree86 3.3.6) I haven't used the live CD much myself, I'm thinking itis going to default to highest resolution possible. Once installed I think the easiest way to change this (easiest meaning through a GUI tool, not direct file editing) would be to install configure-debian and change the Xorg configuration via that tool. FWIW I've done this many times, when a HD is moved to a new computer, new graphics card etc. configure-debian doesn't need X to run. Bryann From pvossen at yahoo.com Sun Oct 15 00:50:12 2006 From: pvossen at yahoo.com (Patrick Vossen) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <452F9F82.1090601@eapps.com> Message-ID: <20061015005012.38398.qmail@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We tried that same card on two different computers. One using Dapper 6.06 with Ubuntu. Then on one with Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper. Had signal at one point, but it never got hold of the internet. We can always hardwire with a cable modem, or from a router with ethernet cable, but no wireless card. The last thing we tried a few days ago was on the new computer ( only two weeks old ). We actually tried the newest kernel and then installed Kubuntu Edgy. It still didn't come through. We haven't given up, but we have put it aside for a few days. Patrick --- Bill Coker wrote: > Jeremy Anderson wrote: > > Which version of kubuntu? > > > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:46, Bill Coker wrote: > > > >> Greetings, > >> > >> I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to > install, > >> confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the > things > >> that it could not setup. > >> > >> 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC > >> [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] > >> > >> I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the > steps > >> needed. > >> > >> Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using > package > >> manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel > already > >> provides the required modules". > >> > >> I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm > >> thinking I still may need to install it? > >> > >> MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on > board > >> with everything else :) > >> > >> 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some > other > >> documentation on the steps required to get her running. > >> > >> I appreciate any assistance. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill > >> > > > > > > > Jeremy, > > I'm sorry, I guess that would have been helpful; > > Kubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper > installed from live CD. > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jeremy at jdli.net Sun Oct 15 02:26:01 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:26:01 -0400 Subject: Linksys USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC on Kunbuntu/Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20061015005012.38398.qmail@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061015005012.38398.qmail@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610142226.01327.jeremy@jdli.net> try disabling the ethernet port. On Saturday 14 October 2006 20:50, Patrick Vossen wrote: > We tried that same card on two different computers. > One using Dapper 6.06 with Ubuntu. Then on one > with Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper. Had signal at one point, > but it never got hold of the internet. We can always > hardwire with a cable modem, or from a router with > ethernet cable, but no wireless card. > > The last thing we tried a few days ago was on the new > computer ( only two weeks old ). We actually tried the > newest kernel and then installed Kubuntu Edgy. It > still didn't come through. We haven't given up, but > we have put it aside for a few days. > > > Patrick > > --- Bill Coker wrote: > > Jeremy Anderson wrote: > > > Which version of kubuntu? > > > > > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 17:46, Bill Coker wrote: > > >> Greetings, > > >> > > >> I am new to Kubuntu. I'm so pleased so far with how easy to > > > > install, > > > > >> confgiure and how well it runs. I'm just trying to finish up the > > > > things > > > > >> that it could not setup. > > >> > > >> 1. USB Wireless-G WUSB54GC > > >> [I have the cd if needed to get .ini or other files from.] > > >> > > >> I have googled tons of pages and have no had any luck with the > > > > steps > > > > >> needed. > > >> > > >> Do I need to install ndiswrapper? When I look for it using > > > > package > > > > >> manager [not installed] it says, "The default Ubuntu kernel > > > > already > > > > >> provides the required modules". > > >> > > >> I cannot locate anything on the file system with the name so I'm > > >> thinking I still may need to install it? > > >> > > >> MY USB is working great I just need to get the Wireless card on > > > > board > > > > >> with everything else :) > > >> > > >> 2. Does anyone else use the card that can provide a url or some > > > > other > > > > >> documentation on the steps required to get her running. > > >> > > >> I appreciate any assistance. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Bill > > > > Jeremy, > > > > I'm sorry, I guess that would have been helpful; > > > > Kubuntu 6.06.1 Dapper > > installed from live CD. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 02:44:58 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:44:58 -0500 Subject: kde 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <200610122221.01758.frode@ubuntu.com> References: <452E2B63.9020607@midmaine.com> <200610121457.30307.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610122221.01758.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200610142144.58684.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 12 October 2006 3:21 pm, Frode M. Døving wrote: > Torsdag 12 oktober 2006 21:57, skrev Howard Coles Jr.: > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 1:33 pm, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 14:12, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > However for some reason, unknown to me, when I try to uninstall > > > > kopete, which I don't use anyway, kdenetwork marks itself for > > > > uninstall. Why is that? This is in the i386 side of things. > > > > I think it wise to wait a day or so, and see what happens with > > > > Kopete. > > > > > > Yes, since kdenetwork depends on kopete, it will be uninstalled if you > > > uninstall kopete. This is the expected behavior if there is a > > > dependency. > > Correct. > > > Hence my bewilderment. Why would it "depend" on kopete, and not the > > other way around. I don't think it should depend on an IM client. > > kdenetwork is a meta-package that depends on all the packages that makes up > the kdenetwork section of KDE. It does not provide anything usefull except > the list of packages it depends on. Removing the package 'kdenetwork' does > not remove anything but the small package info. (This with aptitude and > apt-get remove --auto-remove this might not be true at all times.) > Each package kdenetwork depends on, does not depend on kdenetwork, and > that's intentional. > If kdenetwork depended on kopete and kopete depended on kdenetwork, and > then kdenetwork depended on kppp which again depended on kdenetwork... and > so on. That would leave you with two options: > > Either install kdenetwork or don't. > It would be the same as having one big package, kdenetwork.deb. > Having kopete without also having kppp would not be possible. > > The current solution is nice, because we can choose to have kopete > installed, wiithout having to install the whole kdenetwork section. We can > leave kppp if we don't need it. We can choose individual packages, without > beeing forced to have more than the minimum of installed dependencies. > > Hope this was helpfull somehow :) And indeed it was. I never noticed it as a "meta-Package". Thanks! -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 03:55:41 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 05:55:41 +0200 Subject: Dvorak keyboard layout Message-ID: <880dece00610142055i6af3ee8djbe4242441cf48f46@mail.gmail.com> Dvorak is not listed in my choice of keyboard layouts in System Settings. However, I can switch to dvorak in the console with "setxkbmap dvorak". How can I add Dvorak to the KDE list? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/ http://essentialinux.com/ From kubuntu at mekanix.dk Sun Oct 15 08:34:09 2006 From: kubuntu at mekanix.dk (Bjarne Wichmann Petersen) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:34:09 +0200 Subject: Offtopic: toppost was: firefox + logo In-Reply-To: <20061012202504.24809.qmail@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061012202504.24809.qmail@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610151034.10627.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> :etorw teloiV lraE ,52:22 6002 rebotcO 21 yadsruhT nO > I like top posting!!! .tfel ot thgir morf gnidaer ekil I dnA enrajB - From jgomezdans at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 15:54:22 2006 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:54:22 +0200 Subject: USB disk disappears after upgrade to KDE 3.5.5 Message-ID: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I have done two things to my system, and I have noted that my USB drive stopped popping up in the desktop afterwards. The first was to use the nvidia drivers (I want to use Google Earth), and the second was to upgrade the system to KDE 3.5.5. What happened before was that no unmounted CD or storage medium appeared if it was plugged in from the start, but as soon as something new was plugged in, all devices would appear on the desktop. What happens now is that the unmounted CD or DVD icon is on the desktop from the very begginning (this is fine), but much as I switch my USB external drive on or off, it never shows up. I checked /var/log/syslog, and it shows that the system is detecting the hard drive being plugged in. So it might be a HAL problem. Has anyone experienced similar troubles? Cheers! Jose From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 19:47:48 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:47:48 +0200 Subject: No lyrics in AmaroK Message-ID: <880dece00610151247o1cfdc927u6c50c61bfc779107@mail.gmail.com> Recently (maybe since the switch to KDE 3.5.5) I cannot get lyrics with AmaroK 1.3.9. Anybody else can confirm/deny this? Please note KDE and Amarok version numbers. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Sun Oct 15 20:00:23 2006 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (bluszcz at jabberpl.org) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:00:23 +0200 Subject: No lyrics in AmaroK In-Reply-To: <880dece00610151247o1cfdc927u6c50c61bfc779107@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610151247o1cfdc927u6c50c61bfc779107@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061015200023.GA2572@jabberpl.org> On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 09:47:48PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Recently (maybe since the switch to KDE 3.5.5) I cannot get lyrics > with AmaroK 1.3.9. Anybody else can confirm/deny this? Please note KDE > and Amarok version numbers. Thanks. Could you describe more specifically your problem?? More details, some errors etc :) -- Rafal bluszcz Zawadzki http://bluszcz.jogger.pl http://bluszcz.net From maye.co at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 20:08:08 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (.:M4y3.c0:.) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:08:08 -0500 Subject: iPod Mac Format Message-ID: <836caaeb0610151308x2359388r1ba942be571da731@mail.gmail.com> Heyyy, A friend have a ipod with mac format, I want to connected in my Kubuntu Drapper, with amaroK, there is any wat to mount the ipod with mac format? MY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From demasiado.corazon at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 20:29:26 2006 From: demasiado.corazon at gmail.com (Conte Mascetti) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:29:26 +0200 Subject: USB disk disappears after upgrade to KDE 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610152229.26446.demasiado.corazon@gmail.com> Alle 17:54, domenica 15 ottobre 2006, Jose Gomez-Dans ha scritto: > Hi! > I have done two things to my system, and I have noted that my USB > drive stopped popping up in the desktop afterwards. The first was to > use the nvidia drivers (I want to use Google Earth), and the second > was to upgrade the system to KDE 3.5.5. What happened before was that > no unmounted CD or storage medium appeared if it was plugged in from > the start, but as soon as something new was plugged in, all devices > would appear on the desktop. What happens now is that the unmounted CD > or DVD icon is on the desktop from the very begginning (this is fine), > but much as I switch my USB external drive on or off, it never shows > up. > > I checked /var/log/syslog, and it shows that the system is detecting > the hard drive being plugged in. So it might be a HAL problem. > > Has anyone experienced similar troubles? > Yes, same problem here after the upgrade to KDE 3.5.5... When I plug in my usb key, pops up the window asking what I wanna do, but then nothing happens. Also, no icon on the desktop. Using pmount, everything goes ok. Suggestions? montag From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 20:30:00 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:30:00 +0200 Subject: No lyrics in AmaroK In-Reply-To: <20061015200023.GA2572@jabberpl.org> References: <880dece00610151247o1cfdc927u6c50c61bfc779107@mail.gmail.com> <20061015200023.GA2572@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <880dece00610151330k4f849b67uacfb1b7e6cc2f106@mail.gmail.com> On 15/10/06, bluszcz at jabberpl.org wrote: > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 09:47:48PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Recently (maybe since the switch to KDE 3.5.5) I cannot get lyrics > > with AmaroK 1.3.9. Anybody else can confirm/deny this? Please note KDE > > and Amarok version numbers. Thanks. > > Could you describe more specifically your problem?? More details, some > errors etc :) Yes, the error is: "אי אפשר היה לאחזר מילים כי השרת לא ניתן להשגה." Which translates to: "Cannot retrieve lyrics because the server is inaccessable" I don't know that the newest Amarok is misconfigured, or if the server is down. That's why I asked for version numbers of successes/failures. Sorry that I didn't include the error message. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/ http://simplesniff.com/ From claydoh at claydoh.com Mon Oct 16 00:20:15 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:20:15 -0400 Subject: No lyrics in AmaroK In-Reply-To: <880dece00610151330k4f849b67uacfb1b7e6cc2f106@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610151247o1cfdc927u6c50c61bfc779107@mail.gmail.com> <20061015200023.GA2572@jabberpl.org> <880dece00610151330k4f849b67uacfb1b7e6cc2f106@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610152020.15861.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday 15 October 2006 4:30 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Yes, the error is: > "אי אפשר היה לאחזר מילים כי השרת לא ניתן להשגה." > > Which translates to: > "Cannot retrieve lyrics because the server is inaccessable" > > I don't know that the newest Amarok is misconfigured, or if the server > is down. That's why I asked for version numbers of successes/failures. > Sorry that I didn't include the error message. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://essentialinux.com/ > http://simplesniff.com/ I cannot get lyrics using the drfault lyrics script (lyrc) in Amarok 1.4.3, this isn't a KDE/Amarok issue as the whole lyrc (http://lyrc.com.ar/) site I cannot access at the moment. This happens every now and then. You may want to try a different lyrics script (if they are compatible with 1.3.9 - I think most are, and the newer ones require Ruby be installed) Lyriki actually searches multiple lyrics servers, including lyrc, and can be installed via Amarok's script manager. You can select which lyric sites to poll and the preference order as well. -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 09:37:14 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:37:14 +0200 Subject: Problems with mounting disks & usb flash In-Reply-To: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453352CA.4070408@gmail.com> I have put a mail out on this already (re usb devices not accessible) but realise the problem is more complicated than just USB drives. So here goes; I have a strange problem since a week or so. I am running Kubuntu 6.06.1 and have a disk partitioned in several "bits" like /, Home and swap. There is also an ntfs partition and a vfat (small rescue thing). Now if I go to "Storage Media" and click on any of the ntfs or vfat I get the following message; "Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /media/sda2 busy. mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /media/sda2" More or less the same error happens if I insert a USB flash memory or a USB camera. In all cases I can get around it by "going root" and use eg Krusader in root mode. I can then access the disk/usb/camera. but a while ago I just accessed these no problems and when a USB or camera was inserted I could access as "a normal user". Anyone has ideas? Sinclair From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 09:56:01 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:56:01 +0200 Subject: No lyrics in AmaroK In-Reply-To: <200610152020.15861.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <880dece00610151247o1cfdc927u6c50c61bfc779107@mail.gmail.com> <20061015200023.GA2572@jabberpl.org> <880dece00610151330k4f849b67uacfb1b7e6cc2f106@mail.gmail.com> <200610152020.15861.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610160256va23652dk94d9e0187084ce9f@mail.gmail.com> On 16/10/06, claydoh wrote: > On Sunday 15 October 2006 4:30 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Yes, the error is: > > "אי אפשר היה לאחזר מילים כי השרת לא ניתן להשגה." > > > > Which translates to: > > "Cannot retrieve lyrics because the server is inaccessable" > > > > I don't know that the newest Amarok is misconfigured, or if the server > > is down. That's why I asked for version numbers of successes/failures. > > Sorry that I didn't include the error message. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://essentialinux.com/ > > http://simplesniff.com/ > > I cannot get lyrics using the drfault lyrics script (lyrc) in Amarok 1.4.3, > this isn't a KDE/Amarok issue as the whole lyrc (http://lyrc.com.ar/) site I > cannot access at the moment. This happens every now and then. > > You may want to try a different lyrics script (if they are compatible with > 1.3.9 - I think most are, and the newer ones require Ruby be installed) > > Lyriki actually searches multiple lyrics servers, including lyrc, and can be > installed via Amarok's script manager. You can select which lyric sites to > poll and the preference order as well. > Thanks. The scripts install fine, but tI get error 127 when I run them. So I googled the error, and it turnsout that I nneda syslink from wherever ruby is located to /usr/bin/ruby. A suggestion at linuxquestions suggests that ruby is actually called ruby18 on some systems, but on mine it is not. And: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ which ruby I went looking for ruby on the system and found it under /usr/lib/ruby. However, when I create a syslink to there, I get error 126: permission denied. So, what might I do? Dotan Cohen http://english-lyrics.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 09:59:22 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:59:22 +0200 Subject: No lyrics in AmaroK In-Reply-To: <880dece00610160256va23652dk94d9e0187084ce9f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610151247o1cfdc927u6c50c61bfc779107@mail.gmail.com> <20061015200023.GA2572@jabberpl.org> <880dece00610151330k4f849b67uacfb1b7e6cc2f106@mail.gmail.com> <200610152020.15861.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00610160256va23652dk94d9e0187084ce9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610160259w7086d2e1g9c930f3ee1cf2239@mail.gmail.com> On 16/10/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thanks. The scripts install fine, but tI get error 127 when I run > them. So I googled the error, and it turnsout that I nneda syslink > from wherever ruby is located to /usr/bin/ruby. A suggestion at > linuxquestions suggests that ruby is actually called ruby18 on some > systems, but on mine it is not. And: > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ which ruby > > I went looking for ruby on the system and found it under > /usr/lib/ruby. However, when I create a syslink to there, I get error > 126: permission denied. So, what might I do? Nevermind. I simply installed ruby via apt-get and it worked fine. I really thought that ruby was already installed, and /usr/lib was full of ruby-related things. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/ http://essentialinux.com/ From dripple2 at laposte.net Mon Oct 16 14:06:01 2006 From: dripple2 at laposte.net (Dripple) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:06:01 +0200 Subject: kdesu makes wt apps look ugly Message-ID: Hi, Using kdesu to launch some apps (like adept) makes them look ugly (fonts especially). Is there anything wrong in my config ? Thanks. Dripple From dhcolesj at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 15:06:11 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:06:11 -0500 Subject: Problems with mounting disks & usb flash In-Reply-To: <453352CA.4070408@gmail.com> References: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> <453352CA.4070408@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/16/06, O. Sinclair wrote: > > I have put a mail out on this already (re usb devices not accessible) > but realise the problem is more complicated than just USB drives. So > here goes; > > I have a strange problem since a week or so. I am running Kubuntu 6.06.1 > and have a disk partitioned in several "bits" like /, Home and swap. > There is also an ntfs partition and a vfat (small rescue thing). > > Now if I go to "Storage Media" and click on any of the ntfs or vfat I > get the following message; > "Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: /dev/sda2 > already mounted or /media/sda2 busy. mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 > is already mounted on /media/sda2" > > More or less the same error happens if I insert a USB flash memory or a > USB camera. > In all cases I can get around it by "going root" and use eg Krusader in > root mode. I can then access the disk/usb/camera. > > but a while ago I just accessed these no problems and when a USB or > camera was inserted I could access as "a normal user". > > Anyone has ideas? I don't know but it sounds similar to my problem with a USB attached scanner. I can scan just fine as root, but I cannot access the device as a normal user at all. I think many thought this was a Brother all-in-one printer problem, however, I'm beginning to think its more widespread than that. I haven't received any replies to my inquiry, if you find anything out please let me know as well. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 15:08:57 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:08:57 -0500 Subject: kdesu makes wt apps look ugly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/16/06, Dripple wrote: > > Hi, > > Using kdesu to launch some apps (like adept) makes them look ugly (fonts > especially). Is there anything wrong in my config ? > > Thanks. > > Dripple Before you get barraged, you may want to include what config you are referring to. As in paste in the kdesu or whatever other config you're talking about. Also, are these KDE based or GNOME based apps that are showing the problem. 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URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 17:45:37 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:45:37 +0200 Subject: Dvorak in KDE Message-ID: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> I see that Dvorak has been disabled in KDE on Kubuntu, and that there is already a bug filed. But, I do not see the workaround. How can I reenable it? I do have the dvorak layouts in /user/share/keymaps, and I can enable it manually at the console. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://easy-answers.info http://hohah.com From bonedu at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 17:57:48 2006 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:57:48 +0200 Subject: Mouse wheel not working over flash (Konqueror or Firefox) Message-ID: <3e192e060610161057r98ab6a7w9ff6d575f15069e4@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone experienced that in Firefox and Konqueror, one can not start vertical scroll with the mouse wheel when the cursor is just over a flash? 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Evans) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:58:50 -0600 Subject: Q: Keeping kernel and source synchronized Message-ID: <256f4e900610161058l2e876cci7f53a98b0e9da52@mail.gmail.com> Some recent update seems to have put my kernel and the kernel source headers out of sync. uname -a gives: Linux homebrew 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:50:50 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux but ls -al /usr/src gives: total 16 drwxrwsr-x 4 root src 4096 2006-08-31 20:52 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2006-08-05 18:00 .. drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 2006-09-16 08:26 linux-headers-2.6.15-26 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-09-16 08:26 linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64-generic I would have expected these two to stay in sync if I stayed current with all my updates, but that seems not to be the case. How do I get them back in sync? From hawkwind at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 18:01:09 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:01:09 -0500 Subject: Q: Keeping kernel and source synchronized In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610161058l2e876cci7f53a98b0e9da52@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610161058l2e876cci7f53a98b0e9da52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/16/06, D. R. Evans wrote: > > Some recent update seems to have put my kernel and the kernel source > headers out of sync. > > uname -a gives: > > Linux homebrew 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 > 01:50:50 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > but ls -al /usr/src gives: > > total 16 > drwxrwsr-x 4 root src 4096 2006-08-31 20:52 . > drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 2006-08-05 18:00 .. > drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 2006-09-16 08:26 linux-headers-2.6.15-26 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2006-09-16 08:26 > linux-headers-2.6.15-26-amd64-generic > > I would have expected these two to stay in sync if I stayed current > with all my updates, but that seems not to be the case. > > How do I get them back in sync? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Any time you have a kernel upgrade, you must install/update the kernel-source(headers) seperately as they don't get updated as to not mess up things that are previously built against them. IMO it's a good thing it does this. -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at jacobrideout.net Mon Oct 16 19:29:48 2006 From: ubuntu at jacobrideout.net (Jacob Rideout) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:29:48 -0600 Subject: kdesu makes wt apps look ugly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: kdesu runs the specified program as root, and thus uses root's settings, there has been some work to change this behavior and make the app use the invoking users settings, but not yet. You should be able to copy or ln -s some of your users setting to /root so that the app wiil use your settings. On 10/16/06, Howard Coles wrote: > > > On 10/16/06, Dripple wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Using kdesu to launch some apps (like adept) makes them look ugly (fonts > > especially). Is there anything wrong in my config ? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Dripple > > > Before you get barraged, you may want to include what config you are > referring to. As in paste in the kdesu or whatever other config you're > talking about. Also, are these KDE based or GNOME based apps that are > showing the problem. I have had problems with Gnome based apps and fonts > before in Debian, but haven't noticed them in Ubuntu since I switched over. > > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 19:45:28 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:45:28 +0200 Subject: Installing X-development package Message-ID: <880dece00610161245l1b1f3d22l430de313d17ae0a6@mail.gmail.com> When I try to ./configure syncekonnector I get this: --snip-- checking for crt_externs.h... no checking for _NSGetEnviron... no checking for vsnprintf... yes checking for snprintf... yes checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop/syncekonnector-0.3.2$ On the syncekonnector list, I was told that I must install the X-development package. However, doing a search in apt-cache for "development" returned hundreds of packages, even when grepping for "x". And there is no x-development or xdevelopment. Does anybody know the exact package name? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/ http://song-lirics.com/ From eqisow at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 20:07:15 2006 From: eqisow at gmail.com (Justin) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:07:15 -0400 Subject: Mouse vertical scroll over Flash, not working In-Reply-To: <3e192e060610161013y45aa7ee4x62056159a7a5708f@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e192e060610161013y45aa7ee4x62056159a7a5708f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Confirmed. This issue has existed for awhile. I'm afraid I don't have an explanation either. On 10/16/06, Eduard Bonet wrote: > > > Has anyone experienced that in Firefox and Konqueror, one can not start > vertical scroll with the mouse wheel when the cursor is just over a flash? > > I am using Edgy but this also happened with Dapper. And a guy in another > list confirmed me this strange thing, but had no explanation for it. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Oct 16 20:42:24 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:42:24 +0100 Subject: Installing X-development package In-Reply-To: <880dece00610161245l1b1f3d22l430de313d17ae0a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610161245l1b1f3d22l430de313d17ae0a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4533EEB0.7030604@blueyonder.co.uk> Dotan Cohen wrote: > When I try to ./configure syncekonnector I get this: > --snip-- > checking for crt_externs.h... no > checking for _NSGetEnviron... no > checking for vsnprintf... yes > checking for snprintf... yes > checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please > check your installation and add the correct paths! > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop/syncekonnector-0.3.2$ > > On the syncekonnector list, I was told that I must install the > X-development package. However, doing a search in apt-cache for > "development" returned hundreds of packages, even when grepping for > "x". And there is no x-development or xdevelopment. Does anybody know > the exact package name? Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > Development packages are normally ones that end in "-dev", so maybe try installing the "xorg-dev" package. Tez From brymelvin at melvinart.com Mon Oct 16 21:20:40 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mouse vertical scroll over Flash, not working In-Reply-To: <3e192e060610161013y45aa7ee4x62056159a7a5708f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061016212040.17336.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Eduard Bonet wrote: > Has anyone experienced that in Firefox and > Konqueror, one can not start > vertical scroll with the mouse wheel when the cursor > is just over a flash? > > I am using Edgy but this also happened with Dapper. > And a guy in another > list confirmed me this strange thing, but had no > explanation for it. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Yes: the code in flash if you hover over it causes it to overide other things. If you use Flashblock extension it will cause the icon seen instead of the flash to change to an arrow, but I'm not on a machine with flashblock today so I'm not sure if this will restore other function. This is handy for advertisers using flash but a nuisance for everyone else. Personally I've started blocking adservers to cut down on the nuisance factors. Bryann From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 22:39:01 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:39:01 +0200 Subject: Installing X-development package In-Reply-To: <4533EEB0.7030604@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00610161245l1b1f3d22l430de313d17ae0a6@mail.gmail.com> <4533EEB0.7030604@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610161539n2773a0faj7d0ecad0c262aae4@mail.gmail.com> On 16/10/06, Tez wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > When I try to ./configure syncekonnector I get this: > > --snip-- > > checking for crt_externs.h... no > > checking for _NSGetEnviron... no > > checking for vsnprintf... yes > > checking for snprintf... yes > > checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please > > check your installation and add the correct paths! > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop/syncekonnector-0.3.2$ > > > > On the syncekonnector list, I was told that I must install the > > X-development package. However, doing a search in apt-cache for > > "development" returned hundreds of packages, even when grepping for > > "x". And there is no x-development or xdevelopment. Does anybody know > > the exact package name? Thanks. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > > Development packages are normally ones that end in "-dev", so maybe try > installing the "xorg-dev" package. Thanks, trying it now. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/ http://simplesniff.com/ From lists at wordit.com Mon Oct 16 23:25:46 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:25:46 +0200 Subject: NFS and Guarddog Message-ID: <200610170125.47543.lists@wordit.com> Guarddog firewall is not letting me mount NFS shares, unless I disable the firewall on server and client first. After mounting the shares, NFS works fine with the firewall up (the NFS protocol is enabled locally). Does anybody know a workaround for this? Why would only mounting be blocked? (Kubuntu, Dapper. Guarddog is latest Dapper version.) Thanks, Marcus From mailinglist at endosquid.com Tue Oct 17 00:57:16 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:57:16 -0400 Subject: gRip =?utf-8?q?won=C2=B4t_work_with_any_mp3?= encoder In-Reply-To: References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610162057.17261.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Saturday 14 October 2006 09:28, Hawkwind wrote: > You could always use ogg2mp3 and convert it from ogg to mp3. You don't > lose any sound quality, atleast nothing noticeable. I've used grip for > years, but always convert to ogg by default since my entire library is ogg. I am guessing that you don't have a car stereo that plays files instead of CDs then...I have never found one that does ogg, and converting each one to mp3 before I burn a cd is pretty painful... From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Tue Oct 17 01:01:34 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy Penguin) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:01:34 -0700 Subject: gRip =?iso-8859-1?q?won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3?= encoder In-Reply-To: <200610162057.17261.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <200610162057.17261.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200610161801.35007.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Monday 16 October 2006 17:57, Brendan wrote: > On Saturday 14 October 2006 09:28, Hawkwind wrote: > > You could always use ogg2mp3 and convert it from ogg to mp3. You don't > > lose any sound quality, atleast nothing noticeable. I've used grip for > > years, but always convert to ogg by default since my entire library is > > ogg. > > I am guessing that you don't have a car stereo that plays files instead of > CDs then...I have never found one that does ogg, and converting each one to > mp3 before I burn a cd is pretty painful... Grip works just fine with Lame do you have Lame installed? (it is not installed by default) From hawkwind at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 01:21:29 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:21:29 -0500 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_gRip_won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3_encoder?= In-Reply-To: <200610162057.17261.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> <200610162057.17261.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: On 10/16/06, Brendan wrote: > > On Saturday 14 October 2006 09:28, Hawkwind wrote: > > You could always use ogg2mp3 and convert it from ogg to mp3. You don't > > lose any sound quality, atleast nothing noticeable. I've used grip for > > years, but always convert to ogg by default since my entire library is > ogg. > > I am guessing that you don't have a car stereo that plays files instead of > CDs > then...I have never found one that does ogg, and converting each one to > mp3 > before I burn a cd is pretty painful... I convert everything to ogg and I can't find anything that doesn't play it. I've got a 12 year old boom-box that plays the ogg files when burned to CD. I guess that's because k3b burns them differently to CD allowing anything to play them. All my car stereos play the OGG files I burn to CD as well. It's very nice how k3b handles it. -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 16 18:53:44 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:53:44 +0200 Subject: Amarok "Various Artists" Message-ID: <880dece00610161153r3a3bd6ddj609142a4f7b4da15@mail.gmail.com> I just noticed that some of the soundtracks that I have appear under the artist "אמנים שונים" which translates into "Various Artists" in English. How does Amarok know that these are albums with various artists? The ID3 tags show the name of each artist in the individual files, I verified that. And even if it was written "various' for the artists names, it wouldn't show up in Hebrew, as they are English language soundtrack with English ID3 tags. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/ http://lyricslist.com/ From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 03:55:46 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:55:46 +0200 Subject: Problems with mounting disks & usb flash In-Reply-To: References: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> <453352CA.4070408@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ba734f90610162055h362c1b6fm6264367ccef77f0a@mail.gmail.com> On 16/10/06, Howard Coles wrote: > > > > On 10/16/06, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > > I have put a mail out on this already (re usb devices not accessible) > > but realise the problem is more complicated than just USB drives. So > > here goes; > > > > I have a strange problem since a week or so. I am running Kubuntu 6.06.1 > > and have a disk partitioned in several "bits" like /, Home and swap. > > There is also an ntfs partition and a vfat (small rescue thing). > > > > Now if I go to "Storage Media" and click on any of the ntfs or vfat I > > get the following message; > > "Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: /dev/sda2 > > already mounted or /media/sda2 busy. mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 > > is already mounted on /media/sda2" > > > > More or less the same error happens if I insert a USB flash memory or a > > USB camera. > > In all cases I can get around it by "going root" and use eg Krusader in > > root mode. I can then access the disk/usb/camera. > > > > but a while ago I just accessed these no problems and when a USB or > > camera was inserted I could access as "a normal user". > > > > Anyone has ideas? > > > > I don't know but it sounds similar to my problem with a USB attached > scanner. I can scan just fine as root, but I cannot access the device as a > normal user at all. I think many thought this was a Brother all-in-one > printer problem, however, I'm beginning to think its more widespread than > that. > > I haven't received any replies to my inquiry, if you find anything out > please let me know as well. > > > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > Well I don't know if they are related. What I have now found out is that I can't access CD/DVDs either as a normal user - and I definitely could do that a while ago... so I think for me the problem is somehow related to mounting disk-devices. Though I certainly don't understand how it could all of a sudden change?!? Sinclair -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Tue Oct 17 04:01:26 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:01:26 -0400 Subject: gRip =?ISO-8859-1?Q?won=B4t_work_with_any_mp3_enco?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?der?= In-Reply-To: References: <451FC6E5.8000804@optonline.net> <200610140822.08506.jsidgman@gmail.com> <200610162057.17261.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <45345596.3020102@optonline.net> Hawkwind wrote: > > > On 10/16/06, *Brendan* > wrote: > > On Saturday 14 October 2006 09:28, Hawkwind wrote: > > You could always use ogg2mp3 and convert it from ogg to > mp3. You don't > > lose any sound quality, atleast nothing noticeable. I've used > grip for > > years, but always convert to ogg by default since my entire > library is ogg. > > I am guessing that you don't have a car stereo that plays files > instead of CDs > then...I have never found one that does ogg, and converting each > one to mp3 > before I burn a cd is pretty painful... > > > > I convert everything to ogg and I can't find anything that doesn't > play it. I've got a 12 year old boom-box that plays the ogg files > when burned to CD. I guess that's because k3b burns them differently > to CD allowing anything to play them. All my car stereos play the OGG > files I burn to CD as well. It's very nice how k3b handles it. Doesn´t k3b just convert them to .wav when burning an audio cd? tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From frode at ubuntu.com Tue Oct 17 04:22:11 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 06:22:11 +0200 Subject: kdesu makes wt apps look ugly In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610170622.13885.frode@ubuntu.com> Hi. You can changge appearance settings for the root user: Kmenu -> Run Command -> 'kdesu systemsettings' This will affect applications executed by kdesu and sudo. - Frode Mandag 16 oktober 2006 16:06, skrev Dripple: > Hi, > > Using kdesu to launch some apps (like adept) makes them look ugly (fonts > especially). Is there anything wrong in my config ? > > Thanks. > > Dripple From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Tue Oct 17 04:50:15 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:50:15 -0700 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610162150.15677.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Monday 16 October 2006 10:45, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I see that Dvorak has been disabled in KDE on Kubuntu, and that there > is already a bug filed. But, I do not see the workaround. How can I > reenable it? I do have the dvorak layouts in /user/share/keymaps, and > I can enable it manually at the console. 2 ways: check out what you need to run the dvorak keyboard under linux, 1) then either check out what Debian has and try to install it under Ubuntu, or 2) Grab source packages, and learn to build them yourself. Either way you win. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From henrigira at numericable.fr Tue Oct 17 06:09:33 2006 From: henrigira at numericable.fr (Henri Girard) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:09:33 +0200 Subject: Installing X-development package In-Reply-To: <880dece00610161245l1b1f3d22l430de313d17ae0a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610161245l1b1f3d22l430de313d17ae0a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: libxres-dev libxres1 libxtst-dev libxtst6 Hope those are the missing ones Henri On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:45:28 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > When I try to ./configure syncekonnector I get this: > --snip-- > checking for crt_externs.h... no > checking for _NSGetEnviron... no > checking for vsnprintf... yes > checking for snprintf... yes > checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please > check your installation and add the correct paths! > dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop/syncekonnector-0.3.2$ > > On the syncekonnector list, I was told that I must install the > X-development package. However, doing a search in apt-cache for > "development" returned hundreds of packages, even when grepping for > "x". And there is no x-development or xdevelopment. Does anybody know > the exact package name? Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://technology-sleuth.com/ > http://song-lirics.com/ > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Oct 17 06:56:18 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:56:18 -0700 Subject: Amarok "Various Artists" References: <880dece00610161153r3a3bd6ddj609142a4f7b4da15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87vemjh1m5.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Dotan Cohen" writes: > I just noticed that some of the soundtracks that I have appear under > the artist "אמנים שונים" which translates into "Various Artists" in > English. How does Amarok know that these are albums with various > artists? The ID3 tags show the name of each artist in the individual > files, I verified that. And even if it was written "various' for the > artists names, it wouldn't show up in Hebrew, as they are English > language soundtrack with English ID3 tags. I think Amarok set Various Artists if an album have different artists for each song/track. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 07:31:29 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:31:29 +0200 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) Message-ID: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, Henri Girard wrote: > libxres-dev > libxres1 > libxtst-dev > libxtst6 > Hope those are the missing ones > Henri > Thanks, Henri, those are all installed already! xorg-dev and kde-devel got me a bit further, but now I'm getting this: checking for CeRapiInit in -lrapi... no configure: error: Can't find RAPI library However, searching for rapi led me to tens of packages. Instead of testing them all, does anyone know if one of these are most likely what I need: libtext-wrapi18n-perl - internationalized substitute of Text::Wrap libuniconf4.2 - C++ network libraries for rapid application development libwvstreams4.2-base - C++ network libraries for rapid application development libwvstreams4.2-extras - C++ network libraries for rapid application development libhk-classes9 - C++ library for rapid development of database applications librapi2 - Make RAPI calls to a WinCE device, runtime libraries librapi2-dev - Make RAPI calls to a WinCE device, development libraries librapi2-tools - Tools for talking to a WinCE machine from the command line rapidsvn - A GUI client for subversion Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://song-lirics.com/ http://simplesniff.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 07:33:54 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:33:54 +0200 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <200610162150.15677.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <200610162150.15677.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610170033s730def91x8c1488cda4f478e4@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Monday 16 October 2006 10:45, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I see that Dvorak has been disabled in KDE on Kubuntu, and that there > > is already a bug filed. But, I do not see the workaround. How can I > > reenable it? I do have the dvorak layouts in /user/share/keymaps, and > > I can enable it manually at the console. > > 2 ways: > > check out what you need to run the dvorak keyboard under linux, > > 1) then either check out what Debian has and try to install it under Ubuntu, > or > 2) Grab source packages, and learn to build them yourself. What source packages? KDE? I don't mind building from source, but from where can I aquire such source packages? I've googled to no avail. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/ http://auto-car.info/ From tan.august at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 08:05:49 2006 From: tan.august at gmail.com (tan august) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:05:49 +0800 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you tried run ldconfig? After installing lib file, you need run ldconfig to rebuild /etc/ld.so.cache. This file contain the ordered list of libraries. The /etc/ld.so.conf contain the PATH of libraries. 2006/10/17, Dotan Cohen : > > On 17/10/06, Henri Girard wrote: > > libxres-dev > > libxres1 > > libxtst-dev > > libxtst6 > > Hope those are the missing ones > > Henri > > > > Thanks, Henri, those are all installed already! xorg-dev and kde-devel > got me a bit further, but now I'm getting this: > > checking for CeRapiInit in -lrapi... no > configure: error: Can't find RAPI library > > However, searching for rapi led me to tens of packages. Instead of > testing them all, does anyone know if one of these are most likely > what I need: > > libtext-wrapi18n-perl - internationalized substitute of Text::Wrap > libuniconf4.2 - C++ network libraries for rapid application development > libwvstreams4.2-base - C++ network libraries for rapid application > development > libwvstreams4.2-extras - C++ network libraries for rapid application > development > libhk-classes9 - C++ library for rapid development of database > applications > librapi2 - Make RAPI calls to a WinCE device, runtime libraries > librapi2-dev - Make RAPI calls to a WinCE device, development libraries > librapi2-tools - Tools for talking to a WinCE machine from the command > line > rapidsvn - A GUI client for subversion > > Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://song-lirics.com/ > http://simplesniff.com/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- August Tan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 09:17:11 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:11 +0200 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610170217s694910c6oed76ac74d9582f3c@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, tan august wrote: > Have you tried run ldconfig? After installing lib file, you need run > ldconfig to rebuild /etc/ld.so.cache. This file contain the ordered list of > libraries. The /etc/ld.so.conf > contain the PATH of libraries. Thanks. Yes, I tried that. Dotan Cohen http://simplesniff.com/ http://auto-car.info/ From janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi Tue Oct 17 10:15:37 2006 From: janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi (=?UTF-8?B?SmFubmUgVsOkbnR0aW5lbg==?=) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:15:37 +0300 Subject: Amarok "Various Artists" In-Reply-To: <87vemjh1m5.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <880dece00610161153r3a3bd6ddj609142a4f7b4da15@mail.gmail.com> <87vemjh1m5.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <4534AD49.4030000@cs.helsinki.fi> John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Dotan Cohen" writes: > >> I just noticed that some of the soundtracks that I have appear under >> the artist "אמנים שונים" which translates into "Various Artists" in >> English. How does Amarok know that these are albums with various >> artists? The ID3 tags show the name of each artist in the individual >> files, I verified that. And even if it was written "various' for the >> artists names, it wouldn't show up in Hebrew, as they are English >> language soundtrack with English ID3 tags. > > I think Amarok set Various Artists if an album have different artists for > each song/track. > I believe Amarok sets the record under Various Artists if all the tracks do not have the same artist. Minor difference, but might be annoying if there is just one track with a different artist name. This behaviour can be somewhat controlled from the album context menu in the collection-tab. Right-click an album name and there are selections for "show under various artists" and "dont show under various artists". I haven't really tried it so I don't know how well it works, though. -- - Janne From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 10:48:23 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:48:23 +0200 Subject: Amarok "Various Artists" In-Reply-To: <87vemjh1m5.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <880dece00610161153r3a3bd6ddj609142a4f7b4da15@mail.gmail.com> <87vemjh1m5.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <880dece00610170348n54b80459kc77abee6e1fda72a@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, John L Fjellstad wrote: > "Dotan Cohen" writes: > > > I just noticed that some of the soundtracks that I have appear under > > the artist "אמנים שונים" which translates into "Various Artists" in > > English. How does Amarok know that these are albums with various > > artists? The ID3 tags show the name of each artist in the individual > > files, I verified that. And even if it was written "various' for the > > artists names, it wouldn't show up in Hebrew, as they are English > > language soundtrack with English ID3 tags. > > I think Amarok set Various Artists if an album have different artists for > each song/track. Oh, thanks. That's good to know. Dotan Cohen http://galill.com http://easyanswers.info From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Tue Oct 17 13:27:56 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:27:56 -0400 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610170927.56816.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> On Monday 16 October 2006 13:45, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I see that Dvorak has been disabled in KDE on Kubuntu, and that there > is already a bug filed. But, I do not see the workaround. How can I > reenable it? I do have the dvorak layouts in /user/share/keymaps, and > I can enable it manually at the console. In the control module Regional & Accessibility --> Keyboard Layout --> Layout Variant and select the Dvorak variation. Hope this helps, Bob -- There is always one thing to remember: writers are always selling somebody out. -- Joan Didion, "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 13:33:47 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:33:47 +0200 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok Message-ID: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> I seem to remember a volume-equalising feature in earlier versions of Amaork. I cannot find it now. Where is it, or why was it removed? The files I ripped in my previous OS are of much lower volume than my current creations. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://simplesniff.com http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/how_can_i_be_safe_online.html From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 13:37:00 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:37:00 +0200 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <200610170927.56816.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <200610170927.56816.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610170637r3e16ce3ejf9bdb50fc2df5eec@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, Robert Tilley wrote: > On Monday 16 October 2006 13:45, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I see that Dvorak has been disabled in KDE on Kubuntu, and that there > > is already a bug filed. But, I do not see the workaround. How can I > > reenable it? I do have the dvorak layouts in /user/share/keymaps, and > > I can enable it manually at the console. > > In the control module Regional & Accessibility --> Keyboard Layout --> Layout > Variant and select the Dvorak variation. > > Hope this helps, Bob Are you saying that you have it there? I do not- and there's even a bugzilla entry on Dvorak's absence. If you do, then I'd like to know more details about the relevant parts of your KDE installation. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://easy-answers.org http://fedorafaqs.org From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 17 13:50:27 2006 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 09:50:27 -0400 Subject: hald chokes after breezy->dapper update Message-ID: <200610170950.40174.art.alexion@verizon.net> As I had feared, my breezy to dapper update had some annoying problems. Most have been fixed. Some I can't solve by myself. First the easy stuff. 1. I had a systray applet with 3 simple bars that gave a reasonable approximation of CPU, memory, and swap usage, while taking up little space. I don't remember the name of the app, and nothing in my current menus bring it up. 2. I had a systray applet with two box graphs that monitored network and/or Internet traffic. Again, I don't remember the name of the app, and nothing in my current menus bring it up. 3. Here is the hardest and most important problem. The init.d sript that initiates hald (the Hardware Application Layer daemon) chokes and stall my boot with the message "ll does not exist". After repeatedly pressing ctrl+c and ctrl+d, booting proceeds after giving me a return code of 2 on the script. If I try to run the script from a konsole window using "restart", I get a locked konsole on "starting hald..." The result that I have noticed is that my iPod does not appear on the desktop, and if I try to manually mount it to sda1, amarok can't see it. Please help. I am at my wit's end on this. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 14:13:37 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:13:37 +0200 Subject: hald chokes after breezy->dapper update In-Reply-To: <200610170950.40174.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200610170950.40174.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4534E511.7050508@gmail.com> Art Alexion wrote: > As I had feared, my breezy to dapper update had some annoying problems. Most > have been fixed. Some I can't solve by myself. First the easy stuff. > > 1. I had a systray applet with 3 simple bars that gave a reasonable > approximation of CPU, memory, and swap usage, while taking up little space. > I don't remember the name of the app, and nothing in my current menus bring > it up. > > 2. I had a systray applet with two box graphs that monitored network and/or > Internet traffic. Again, I don't remember the name of the app, and nothing > in my current menus bring it up. > > 3. Here is the hardest and most important problem. The init.d sript that > initiates hald (the Hardware Application Layer daemon) chokes and stall my > boot with the message "ll does not exist". After repeatedly pressing ctrl+c > and ctrl+d, booting proceeds after giving me a return code of 2 on the > script. If I try to run the script from a konsole window using "restart", I > get a locked konsole on "starting hald..." > > The result that I have noticed is that my iPod does not appear on the desktop, > and if I try to manually mount it to sda1, amarok can't see it. > > Please help. I am at my wit's end on this. > I might be able to help you on the 2 first; I think you mean the KSysGuard applet, right-click on the panel and choose "Add Applet to panel", find KSysGuard The second one I think is KNemo, find via Adept or Apt-get after adding repositories (why this is not standard goes beyond me, in Ubuntu the equivalent is). as for HAL - I will read with interest as I suspect my own problem with unmountable USB devices is connected. Sinclair From buggerone at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 14:33:45 2006 From: buggerone at gmail.com (JJL) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:33:45 +0200 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I seem to remember a volume-equalising feature in earlier versions of > Amaork. I cannot find it now. Where is it, or why was it removed? The > files I ripped in my previous OS are of much lower volume than my > current creations. > I don't know for amaroK, but there is a small command line tool called normalize, done for that. http://normalize.nongnu.org/ it's in universe Regards JJL -- http://kubuntu.free.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Oct 17 14:41:24 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:41:24 -0400 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610171041.26024.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 9:33 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I seem to remember a volume-equalising feature in earlier versions of > Amaork. I cannot find it now. Where is it, or why was it removed? The > files I ripped in my previous OS are of much lower volume than my > current creations. > > Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://simplesniff.com > http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/how_can_i_be_safe_online.html I think you need to try this Amarok script: ReplayGain http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26073 I have yet to try it myself. -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 14:47:08 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:47:08 -0600 Subject: Q: Keeping kernel and source synchronized In-Reply-To: References: <256f4e900610161058l2e876cci7f53a98b0e9da52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4534ECEC.9060604@gmail.com> Hawkwind said the following at 10/16/2006 12:01 PM : > > Any time you have a kernel upgrade, you must install/update the > kernel-source(headers) seperately as they don't get updated as to not mess > up things that are previously built against them. IMO it's a good thing it > does this. It would be nice, though, if something alerted one to this. Anyway, I installed the new linux-headers package, which enabled me to re-run the vmware configuration script and now everything looks happy again. Thank you very much. From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 14:48:22 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Samuel Debruyn) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:48:22 +0200 Subject: bios doesn't like large hard drives Message-ID: <930775c20610170748s2444d877l90348f14e4fbc5a8@mail.gmail.com> I have a Maxtor DiamondMax 8 Plus (40 GB, IDE/ATA, 5200RPM). Because my bios is too old for a hard drive bigger than 33 GB, I needed to use a Dynamic Drive Overlay. This utility creates a virtual (=not real) partition on your hd, with a size of 8 GB, formatted as EZ-Drive, during the booting of the hd. When your OS is started, it shows the real partitions. My problem is: this utility only works with Windows, when I tried to install Kubuntu, Kubuntu was still showing the EZ-Drive. If I delete the ddo, my pc will hang while the BIOS boots the hd. A solution to this problem? Sam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 14:49:11 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:49:11 -0600 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: <200610171041.26024.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> <200610171041.26024.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610170749l745c654ao26297e231e2ab9ca@mail.gmail.com> > I think you need to try this Amarok script: > ReplayGain > http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26073 > I have yet to try it myself. I am running that script. It's not perfect, but I find that myself reaching for the volume control much less often than when I don't use it. (Well, it's not the script's fault that some songs don't seem to be set to the right level; the script just does what it's told by the tags in the files. The tags are set by replaygain. Incidentally, if you have a large music collection, you will probably need to run replaygain overnight.) From jeremy at jdli.net Tue Oct 17 14:57:13 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:57:13 -0400 Subject: adding a debian repository Message-ID: <200610171057.13997.jeremy@jdli.net> how would I make the following into a repository in kubuntu dapper. I know how to manipulate the sources file but for some reason I can't get this to work as a repository http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/debian/main/binary-i386/pluto-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb I know that I wouldn't put the *.deb in it... here is an example of what I tried: deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/debian sarge main From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 14:54:07 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:54:07 +0200 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610170754j658e7574i44271891aada0b2e@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, JJL wrote: > Hi, > > > > I seem to remember a volume-equalising feature in earlier versions of > > Amaork. I cannot find it now. Where is it, or why was it removed? The > > files I ripped in my previous OS are of much lower volume than my > > current creations. > > > I don't know for amaroK, but there is a small command line tool called > normalize, done for that. > http://normalize.nongnu.org/ > it's in universe Thanks, I'm not sure if I want to touch the files themselves, however. Dotan Cohen http://song-liriks.com http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/how_much_memory_will_i_need_for_my_digital_camera.html From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 14:54:31 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Samuel Debruyn) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:54:31 +0200 Subject: Problems with mounting disks & usb flash In-Reply-To: <4ba734f90610162055h362c1b6fm6264367ccef77f0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> <453352CA.4070408@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610162055h362c1b6fm6264367ccef77f0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <930775c20610170754x4d34030ficff9e9f55f4e5af1@mail.gmail.com> Check your the user permissions. 2006/10/17, O. Sinclair : > > > > On 16/10/06, Howard Coles wrote: > > > > > > > > On 10/16/06, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > > > > I have put a mail out on this already (re usb devices not accessible) > > > but realise the problem is more complicated than just USB drives. So > > > here goes; > > > > > > I have a strange problem since a week or so. I am running Kubuntu > > > 6.06.1 > > > and have a disk partitioned in several "bits" like /, Home and swap. > > > There is also an ntfs partition and a vfat (small rescue thing). > > > > > > Now if I go to "Storage Media" and click on any of the ntfs or vfat I > > > get the following message; > > > "Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: /dev/sda2 > > > already mounted or /media/sda2 busy. mount: according to mtab, > > > /dev/sda2 > > > is already mounted on /media/sda2" > > > > > > More or less the same error happens if I insert a USB flash memory or > > > a > > > USB camera. > > > In all cases I can get around it by "going root" and use eg Krusader > > > in > > > root mode. I can then access the disk/usb/camera. > > > > > > but a while ago I just accessed these no problems and when a USB or > > > camera was inserted I could access as "a normal user". > > > > > > Anyone has ideas? > > > > > > > > I don't know but it sounds similar to my problem with a USB attached > > scanner. I can scan just fine as root, but I cannot access the device as a > > normal user at all. I think many thought this was a Brother all-in-one > > printer problem, however, I'm beginning to think its more widespread than > > that. > > > > I haven't received any replies to my inquiry, if you find anything out > > please let me know as well. > > > > > > > > -- > > See Ya' > > Howard Coles Jr. > > John 3:16! > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > Well I don't know if they are related. What I have now found out is that > I can't access CD/DVDs either as a normal user - and I definitely could do > that a while ago... so I think for me the problem is somehow related to > mounting disk-devices. Though I certainly don't understand how it could all > of a sudden change?!? > > Sinclair > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- -- Je kan ook altijd mijn site eens bezoeken op http://www.pchelpsite.net -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Oct 17 15:11:19 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:11:19 -0400 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: <880dece00610170754j658e7574i44271891aada0b2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610170754j658e7574i44271891aada0b2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610171111.19900.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 10:54 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I don't know for amaroK, but there is a small command line tool called > > normalize, done for that. > > http://normalize.nongnu.org/ > > it's in universe > > Thanks, I'm not sure if I want to touch the files themselves, however. > > Dotan Cohen The replay gain script in Amarok does not edit the files themselves, other than adding an extra tag to them, after it analyzes your music files -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 15:28:51 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:28:51 +0200 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: <200610171041.26024.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> <200610171041.26024.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610170828y312cf9a4o7a89e85e3be11ece@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, claydoh wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 9:33 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I seem to remember a volume-equalising feature in earlier versions of > > Amaork. I cannot find it now. Where is it, or why was it removed? The > > files I ripped in my previous OS are of much lower volume than my > > current creations. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://simplesniff.com > > http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/how_can_i_be_safe_online.html > > I think you need to try this Amarok script: > ReplayGain > http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=26073 > I have yet to try it myself. Thanks. It seems a good script, but it keeps complaining that it wants kdebindings3-python and I can't seem to find it: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kdebindings3-python Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package kdebindings3-python dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kdebindings-python Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package kdebindings-python dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ Dotan Cohen http://olnu.com http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_is_hdtv.html From hawkwind at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 15:51:33 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:51:33 -0500 Subject: bios doesn't like large hard drives In-Reply-To: <930775c20610170748s2444d877l90348f14e4fbc5a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <930775c20610170748s2444d877l90348f14e4fbc5a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/17/06, Samuel Debruyn wrote: > > I have a Maxtor DiamondMax 8 Plus (40 GB, IDE/ATA, 5200RPM). Because my > bios is too old for a hard drive bigger than 33 GB, I needed to use a > Dynamic Drive Overlay. This utility creates a virtual (=not real) partition > on your hd, with a size of 8 GB, formatted as EZ-Drive, during the booting > of the hd. When your OS is started, it shows the real partitions. My problem > is: this utility only works with Windows, when I tried to install Kubuntu, > Kubuntu was still showing the EZ-Drive. If I delete the ddo, my pc will hang > while the BIOS boots the hd. A solution to this problem? > > Sam So buy yourself a Promise IDE controller card which goes into an PCI slot. I had this problem with a box that wouldn't take over 40GB and now it has 2 250GB drives in it. The PC is about 6 - 7 years old now. -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 16:26:15 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:26:15 -0600 Subject: Q; kdevelop installation In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610170204h4f62dc78j93ba9cffe50146b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610170204h4f62dc78j93ba9cffe50146b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610170926g46ec08a9r98daa625c10bd9af@mail.gmail.com> > So, since the kdevelop package seems to be more recent, I installed > that. I also installed kdevelop-dev and kdevelop-doc. The kdevelop > package installed kdevelop-data. > > But even after installation of these packages: > 1. There is no KDevelop item on the menu > 2. If I type "kdevelop" in a console, kdevelop tries to start but > complains that it can't find any plug-ins. > > Does anyone know what other packages I need to include in order to get > a functioning kdevelop? > Since there was a plugins package for kdevelop3, I uninstalled kdevelop and installed all the kdevelop3* packages. No difference, both the two items above still occurred. So do I just give up and switch on my Windows box? I sure hope that the answer is No, but that's what it looks like I'll have to do :-(. KDevelop used to work fine when I was running Mdv 2006 on this box, but there's obviously some trick I'm missing to get it working under Kubuntu. Doubtless an easy trick, but one that escapes me nevertheless. From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Oct 17 16:41:21 2006 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:41:21 -0400 Subject: hald chokes after breezy->dapper update In-Reply-To: <4534E511.7050508@gmail.com> References: <200610170950.40174.art.alexion@verizon.net> <4534E511.7050508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610171241.41957.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 10:13, O. Sinclair wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > > As I had feared, my breezy to dapper update had some annoying problems. > > Most have been fixed. Some I can't solve by myself. First the easy > > stuff. > > > > 1. I had a systray applet with 3 simple bars that gave a reasonable > > approximation of CPU, memory, and swap usage, while taking up little > > space. I don't remember the name of the app, and nothing in my current > > menus bring it up. > > > > 2. I had a systray applet with two box graphs that monitored network > > and/or Internet traffic. Again, I don't remember the name of the app, > > and nothing in my current menus bring it up. > > > > 3. Here is the hardest and most important problem. The init.d sript that > > initiates hald (the Hardware Application Layer daemon) chokes and stall > > my boot with the message "ll does not exist". After repeatedly pressing > > ctrl+c and ctrl+d, booting proceeds after giving me a return code of 2 on > > the script. If I try to run the script from a konsole window using > > "restart", I get a locked konsole on "starting hald..." > > > > The result that I have noticed is that my iPod does not appear on the > > desktop, and if I try to manually mount it to sda1, amarok can't see it. > > > > Please help. I am at my wit's end on this. > > I might be able to help you on the 2 first; > I think you mean the KSysGuard applet, right-click on the panel and > choose "Add Applet to panel", find KSysGuard Got it running -- and I thought that was it -- but it is much more complex than what I want/had before. Now it is a moving line/area graph for each think I want monitored. Before it was just one bar for each thing. I can live with this, but prefer the simpler. > The second one I think is KNemo, find via Adept or Apt-get after adding > repositories (why this is not standard goes beyond me, in Ubuntu the > equivalent is). Grabbing it now. > > as for HAL - I will read with interest as I suspect my own problem with > unmountable USB devices is connected. Unfortunately, this is the show stopper. I really need to fix this or I'm stuck using iTunes for the iPod. Probably other problems I haven't noticed yet. > > Sinclair -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion Arthur S. Alexion LLC PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Done > E: Couldn't find package kdebindings3-python > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kdebindings-python > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package kdebindings-python > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ > > > Dotan Cohen I believe it is the package python-kde http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/python/python-kde3 -- Clay Weber http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Oct 17 17:34:15 2006 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bios doesn't like large hard drives Message-ID: <20061017173415.91827.qmail@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sometimes the manufacturer has a BIOS update on their website. You might be able to flash the BIOS. Read the instructions carefully. You might have only one chance. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From demasiado.corazon at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 18:37:37 2006 From: demasiado.corazon at gmail.com (Conte Mascetti) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:37:37 +0200 Subject: USB disk disappears after upgrade to KDE 3.5.5 In-Reply-To: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610172037.37128.demasiado.corazon@gmail.com> Alle 17:54, domenica 15 ottobre 2006, Jose Gomez-Dans ha scritto: > Hi! > I have done two things to my system, and I have noted that my USB > drive stopped popping up in the desktop afterwards. The first was to > use the nvidia drivers (I want to use Google Earth), and the second > was to upgrade the system to KDE 3.5.5. What happened before was that > no unmounted CD or storage medium appeared if it was plugged in from > the start, but as soon as something new was plugged in, all devices > would appear on the desktop. What happens now is that the unmounted CD > or DVD icon is on the desktop from the very begginning (this is fine), > but much as I switch my USB external drive on or off, it never shows > up. I found a solution! I solved this way: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2006/10/solution-for-kubuntu-355-and-usb-not.html It was a problem in Kde 3.5.5 package for kubuntu... Hope it helps. montag From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 19:02:26 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:02:26 +0200 Subject: bios doesn't like large hard drives In-Reply-To: References: <930775c20610170748s2444d877l90348f14e4fbc5a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <930775c20610171202p143350b0jd8ff80c942b11835@mail.gmail.com> Hey, thanks man, just one question: do I need to install another primary hdd on my motherboard, I've got an extra hdd (7 GB) somewhere on my attic. Sam 2006/10/17, Hawkwind : > On 10/17/06, Samuel Debruyn wrote: > > > > I have a Maxtor DiamondMax 8 Plus (40 GB, IDE/ATA, 5200RPM). Because my > > bios is too old for a hard drive bigger than 33 GB, I needed to use a > > Dynamic Drive Overlay. This utility creates a virtual (=not real) > partition > > on your hd, with a size of 8 GB, formatted as EZ-Drive, during the booting > > of the hd. When your OS is started, it shows the real partitions. My > problem > > is: this utility only works with Windows, when I tried to install Kubuntu, > > Kubuntu was still showing the EZ-Drive. If I delete the ddo, my pc will > hang > > while the BIOS boots the hd. A solution to this problem? > > > > Sam > > > > So buy yourself a Promise IDE controller card which goes into an PCI slot. > I had this problem with a box that wouldn't take over 40GB and now it has 2 > 250GB drives in it. The PC is about 6 - 7 years old now. > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -- > With kind regards, > > Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) > Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 > http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org > IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo > > From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 19:10:23 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:10:23 +0200 Subject: bios doesn't like large hard drives In-Reply-To: <20061017173415.91827.qmail@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061017173415.91827.qmail@web39604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <930775c20610171210t25792c68n20fb318eb8b831c8@mail.gmail.com> Ow yeah, what Earls said, if you want to flash an Award Modular BIOS, it will cost you $30 (I don't buy stuff on the internet and it isn't available in my counrty (Belgium) in a store. Thanks for this solution but I checked it out already. Sam 2006/10/17, Earl Violet : > > Sometimes the manufacturer has a BIOS update on their website. You > might be able to flash the BIOS. Read the instructions carefully. You > might have only one chance. > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 20:28:34 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:28:34 +0200 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: <200610171244.41098.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610170754j658e7574i44271891aada0b2e@mail.gmail.com> <200610171111.19900.claydoh@claydoh.com> <200610171244.41098.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610171328o414b12ech761f94d885f7e2e8@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 11:11, claydoh wrote: > > The replay gain script in Amarok does not edit the files themselves, other > > than adding an extra tag to them, after it analyzes your music files > > Right, a google search for replaygain will inform you how it is supposed to > work. I didn't expect that ReplayGain would alter the files. JJL suggested the normalize.nongnu script, that does in fact alter the files I believe. Dotan Cohen http://dramatherapy.info http://what-is-what.com/what_is/rss.html From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 20:41:27 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:41:27 +0200 Subject: Volume equalising in Amarok In-Reply-To: <200610171301.55288.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <880dece00610170633w3515905bk2fd95dfe4e3a9067@mail.gmail.com> <200610171041.26024.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00610170828y312cf9a4o7a89e85e3be11ece@mail.gmail.com> <200610171301.55288.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610171341v564b5e5ao1161dada4047adac@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, claydoh wrote: > I believe it is the package python-kde > http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/python/python-kde3 Thanks, got it installed. Now to let ReplayGain sit on the files all night, and check how it went. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bluetooth.html http://lishon.com From lists at olivermaunder.co.uk Tue Oct 17 20:48:30 2006 From: lists at olivermaunder.co.uk (Oliver Maunder) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:48:30 +0100 Subject: Q; kdevelop installation In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610170926g46ec08a9r98daa625c10bd9af@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610170204h4f62dc78j93ba9cffe50146b2@mail.gmail.com> <256f4e900610170926g46ec08a9r98daa625c10bd9af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I've got kdevelop and kdevelop-data installed and it's working fine. I just did an "apt-get install kdevelop", so I wasn't tempted by the kdevelop3 package! > But even after installation of these packages: > 1. There is no KDevelop item on the menu > 2. If I type "kdevelop" in a console, kdevelop tries to start but > complains that it can't find any plug-ins. > Actually - looking at it in more detail, kdevelop3 is just a dummy package. 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URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 20:55:42 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:55:42 -0500 Subject: Problems with mounting disks & usb flash In-Reply-To: <930775c20610170754x4d34030ficff9e9f55f4e5af1@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430610150854t6b37fa20m2f0d0f14c61aebdb@mail.gmail.com> <453352CA.4070408@gmail.com> <4ba734f90610162055h362c1b6fm6264367ccef77f0a@mail.gmail.com> <930775c20610170754x4d34030ficff9e9f55f4e5af1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/17/06, Samuel Debruyn wrote: > > Check your the user permissions. > > > 2006/10/17, O. Sinclair : > > > > > > > > On 16/10/06, Howard Coles wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/16/06, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > > > > > > I have put a mail out on this already (re usb devices not > > > > accessible) > > > > but realise the problem is more complicated than just USB drives. So > > > > > > > > here goes; > > > > > > > > I have a strange problem since a week or so. I am running Kubuntu > > > > 6.06.1 > > > > and have a disk partitioned in several "bits" like /, Home and swap. > > > > There is also an ntfs partition and a vfat (small rescue thing). > > > > > > > > Now if I go to "Storage Media" and click on any of the ntfs or vfat > > > > I > > > > get the following message; > > > > "Could not mount device. The reported error was: mount: /dev/sda2 > > > > already mounted or /media/sda2 busy. mount: according to mtab, > > > > /dev/sda2 > > > > is already mounted on /media/sda2" > > > > > > > > More or less the same error happens if I insert a USB flash memory > > > > or a > > > > USB camera. > > > > In all cases I can get around it by "going root" and use eg Krusader > > > > in > > > > root mode. I can then access the disk/usb/camera. > > > > > > > > but a while ago I just accessed these no problems and when a USB or > > > > camera was inserted I could access as "a normal user". > > > > > > > > Anyone has ideas? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know but it sounds similar to my problem with a USB attached > > > scanner. I can scan just fine as root, but I cannot access the device as a > > > normal user at all. I think many thought this was a Brother all-in-one > > > printer problem, however, I'm beginning to think its more widespread than > > > that. > > > > > > I haven't received any replies to my inquiry, if you find anything out > > > please let me know as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > See Ya' > > > Howard Coles Jr. > > > John 3:16! > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > Well I don't know if they are related. What I have now found out is > > that I can't access CD/DVDs either as a normal user - and I definitely could > > do that a while ago... so I think for me the problem is somehow related to > > mounting disk-devices. Though I certainly don't understand how it could all > > of a sudden change?!? > > > > Sinclair > > > Check permissions, where? /dev? The USB scanner is showing up as brother:bus02;dev1 What file would I check for that as well? Not to mention the disk mounting. What groups would the user need to be a member of besides "disk" or "scanner"? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Myers) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:54:27 -0700 Subject: xmms crashes after stopping for any reason Message-ID: <20061017155427.0682549c@rodney-desktop> kubuntu dapper & xmms 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 From konsole I run xmms; xmms Message: device: hw:0,0 XS[src/xmms-sid.c:xs_init:216]: xs_init() XS[src/xs_config.c:xs_init_configuration:164]: initializing configuration ... XS[src/xs_config.c:xs_read_configuration:265]: loading from config-file ... XS[src/xs_config.c:xs_read_configuration:320]: OK XS[src/xmms-sid.c:xs_reinit:163]: initializing emulator engine #2... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Oct 17 23:05:29 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:05:29 +0100 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 17/10/06, Henri Girard wrote: > >> libxres-dev >> libxres1 >> libxtst-dev >> libxtst6 >> Hope those are the missing ones >> Henri >> >> > > Thanks, Henri, those are all installed already! xorg-dev and kde-devel > got me a bit further, but now I'm getting this: > > checking for CeRapiInit in -lrapi... no > configure: error: Can't find RAPI library > > However, searching for rapi led me to tens of packages. Instead of > testing them all, does anyone know if one of these are most likely > what I need: > > libtext-wrapi18n-perl - internationalized substitute of Text::Wrap > libuniconf4.2 - C++ network libraries for rapid application development > libwvstreams4.2-base - C++ network libraries for rapid application development > libwvstreams4.2-extras - C++ network libraries for rapid application development > libhk-classes9 - C++ library for rapid development of database applications > librapi2 - Make RAPI calls to a WinCE device, runtime libraries > librapi2-dev - Make RAPI calls to a WinCE device, development libraries > librapi2-tools - Tools for talking to a WinCE machine from the command line > rapidsvn - A GUI client for subversion > > Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen > I think the clue here is in the "-lrapi..." part. >From experience compiling apps when the configure script checks for "-l(Anything)" it's a lib, I guess that's what -l means?? So "-lrapi" is looking for rapi library's, on the list I see librapi2 so that looks like a good choice. You may need the -dev package as well but you can try without to see. If I remember correctly you are trying to compile "syncekonnector", that package isn't in dapper, but it is in edgy (which I'm running). It only depends on "synce-kde" and you can find it's dependences here http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/utils/synce-kde which may give you some help in finding all the packages you need. Tez From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Wed Oct 18 01:02:26 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:02:26 -0700 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <880dece00610170033s730def91x8c1488cda4f478e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <200610162150.15677.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <880dece00610170033s730def91x8c1488cda4f478e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610171802.26455.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 00:33, Dotan Cohen wrote: > What source packages? KDE? I don't mind building from source, but from > where can I aquire such source packages? I've googled to no avail. I just queried Google with "linux dvorak keyboard" and found this: http://www.geektimes.com/linux/sysadmin/software/ui/dvorak.html Apparently nothing has to be installed, only modified. Check it out. As to KDE with the keyboard, apparently it doesn't need to know. And there appears to be no gui to configure it for KDE. As to Gnome, I don't know. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Wed Oct 18 01:06:11 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:06:11 -0700 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <880dece00610170637r3e16ce3ejf9bdb50fc2df5eec@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <200610170927.56816.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <880dece00610170637r3e16ce3ejf9bdb50fc2df5eec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610171806.11193.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 06:37, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 17/10/06, Robert Tilley wrote: > > In the control module Regional & Accessibility --> Keyboard Layout --> > > Layout Variant and select the Dvorak variation. > > > > Hope this helps, Bob > > Are you saying that you have it there? I do not- and there's even a > bugzilla entry on Dvorak's absence. If you do, then I'd like to know > more details about the relevant parts of your KDE installation. > Thanks. I found it. Apparently you need to pick US English, then Layout Variant in the lower right corner of the box. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Wed Oct 18 01:10:52 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:10:52 -0700 Subject: bios doesn't like large hard drives In-Reply-To: <930775c20610170748s2444d877l90348f14e4fbc5a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <930775c20610170748s2444d877l90348f14e4fbc5a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610171810.52255.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 07:48, Samuel Debruyn wrote: > > My problem is: this utility only works with Windows, when I tried to install > Kubuntu, Kubuntu was still showing the EZ-Drive. If I delete the ddo, my pc > will hang while the BIOS boots the hd. A solution to this problem? Interesting. I used to have a machine that had an oversize drive on an older mobo, and Linux did not care what the BIOS said, it just checked with the HD, and found out what it was, and used it. I wonder why that is not happening now, and lack the time to find out for you. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Wed Oct 18 01:23:52 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy Penguin) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:23:52 -0700 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <200610171806.11193.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610170637r3e16ce3ejf9bdb50fc2df5eec@mail.gmail.com> <200610171806.11193.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200610171823.52171.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Tuesday 17 October 2006 18:06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 06:37, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 17/10/06, Robert Tilley wrote: > > > In the control module Regional & Accessibility --> Keyboard Layout --> > > > Layout Variant and select the Dvorak variation. > > > > > > Hope this helps, Bob > > > > Are you saying that you have it there? I do not- and there's even a > > bugzilla entry on Dvorak's absence. If you do, then I'd like to know > > more details about the relevant parts of your KDE installation. > > Thanks. > > I found it. Apparently you need to pick US English, then Layout Variant in > the lower right corner of the box. > > Rob I found the keyboard ouch http://www.nextag.com/dvorak-keyboard/search-html?nxtg=19ec0a1c052d-DAA157CBE415B6FA > --that's a bit much for a key board easier to swap the keys on a regular keyboard http://tinyurl.com/y3dmk5 > Mountlake Terrace, WA From brymelvin at melvinart.com Wed Oct 18 03:38:42 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bios doesn't like large hard drives In-Reply-To: <200610171810.52255.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20061018033842.79014.qmail@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 07:48, Samuel Debruyn > wrote: > > > > My problem is: this utility only works with > Windows, when I tried to install > > Kubuntu, Kubuntu was still showing the EZ-Drive. > If I delete the ddo, my pc > > will hang while the BIOS boots the hd. A solution > to this problem? > > Interesting. I used to have a machine that had an > oversize drive on an older > mobo, and Linux did not care what the BIOS said, it > just checked with the HD, > and found out what it was, and used it. > > I wonder why that is not happening now, and lack the > time to find out for you. > > Rob > > -- > Mountlake Terrace, WA > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > I think I can answer the why: The older bios ALSO had a limitation that the boot partition had to be IN THE FIRST 1024 cylinders. Once the boot occurs Linux can use the larger HD. This was also a factor in OS/2 NT4 and Unix. NT be installed with a small boot partition, and then a service pack installed to recognize the rest! The older versions of Linux and indeed some still, would use a small boot partition. Depending on physical attributes the size of the first partition on some of these bios may have to be very small. I remember an early WD 8 gig that had 13000 odd cyl making only a small boot partition possible. I remeber haveing to have < 250MB once for an OS/2 boot partition. However /boot doesn't NEED to be large. Ubuntu makes a / partition and a swap by default. as the boot is in the large / partition it doesn't get recognozed as the partition is > 1024 cylinders. For this all to work you would need to make /boot a seperate PRIMARY partition within the 1024 cyl limit. So you would have /boot the FIRST partition on the disk then / and swap wherever lilo or grub would be installed in /boot. Then the bios when as designed go to the first primary partition on the first HD looking to boot. Once the boot starts Linucx doesn't care about the bios limitations. The maxtor software uses the same thing, I've never used the Maxtor utility but I have used a WD utility which is actually used DR DOS boot partition to then load a boot loader, I had SuSE 7.3 on a setup using this a long time ago. This problem and other partition issues used to be why distros like SuSE 7.x etc used to give you the option of installing lilo on a floppy, or even IN your Win95/98 installation. Back with win95/NT era you had 503 MB 2gig 7.8 gig then 32 GIG for win 95, then with win98 you had a 64gig limitation. Recommendations: Flash the bios if possible: Some manufacturers have updats for large HD support. I have a Compaq Deskpro that is a Pentium MMX 166 that has a 60 gig fully recognized, that is my firewall computer/gateway Still in service. (Quiet passive cooling No CPU Fan!!) Buy an ATA card and disable the MB detection of the HD It might be possible to use the partition made by the maxtor utility as /boot Not sure as I never have used this. You could also put lilo or grub on a first/primary partition in the first 1024 cylinders by custom partitioning the drive. Hope some of this makes sense to you. Bryann From dgvirtual at akl.lt Wed Oct 18 06:40:19 2006 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:40:19 +0300 Subject: Changing system default keyboard layot Message-ID: <200610180940.20120.dgvirtual@akl.lt> Hi, how do I change the system default keyboard layout (not the X, but text mode)? I want to get the system to load the charset I use for all users, so I can type my login and password using it. Currently I load it after login using command sudo loadkeys ltstd (which is Lithuanian standard keyboard, by the way, which is not in Ubuntu by default). -- Donatas Glodenis http://dg.lapas.info From lists at wordit.com Wed Oct 18 08:07:47 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:07:47 +0200 Subject: Samba: Not browseable in Konqueror Message-ID: <200610181007.48022.lists@wordit.com> I can mount Samba shares from the command line with "smbmount", but not using "smb://" in konqueror. Is there a service I need to restart? It did work one time and then stopped. Konqueror claims there are no workgroups. (Kubuntu Dapper) Thanks, Marcus From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 11:55:06 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:55:06 +0200 Subject: Dvorak in KDE In-Reply-To: <200610171806.11193.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610161045i22275c56kc45b6d32e838e0cf@mail.gmail.com> <200610170927.56816.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <880dece00610170637r3e16ce3ejf9bdb50fc2df5eec@mail.gmail.com> <200610171806.11193.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610180455k3bf1e48fl2ea579925bcfc8d2@mail.gmail.com> On 18/10/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > I found it. Apparently you need to pick US English, then Layout Variant in the > lower right corner of the box. > > Rob Rob, thank you! I would never have found that. I'm typing this on Dvorak now. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/spam.html http://dugry.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 13:07:27 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:07:27 +0200 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610180607s3636b12er39ecec6a955230a9@mail.gmail.com> On 18/10/06, Tez wrote: > I think the clue here is in the "-lrapi..." part. > From experience compiling apps when the configure script checks for > "-l(Anything)" it's a lib, I guess that's what -l means?? > So "-lrapi" is looking for rapi library's, on the list I see librapi2 so > that looks like a good choice. You may need the -dev package as well but > you can try without to see. > > > If I remember correctly you are trying to compile "syncekonnector", that > package isn't in dapper, but it is in edgy (which I'm running). It only > depends on "synce-kde" and you can find it's dependences here > http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/utils/synce-kde which may give you some > help in finding all the packages you need. > > Tez Turns out that librapi2 was in fact installed already. I installed librapi2-dev and now its complaining: checking for rapi.h... yes checking for rra_matchmaker_replace_partnership in -lrra... no configure: error: Can't find RRA library Dotan Cohen http://fitha.com http://gmail-com.com/faq.php From piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it Wed Oct 18 13:16:17 2006 From: piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it (Piero Ottuzzi) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:16:17 +0200 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <880dece00610180607s3636b12er39ecec6a955230a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610180607s3636b12er39ecec6a955230a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610181516.20277.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Hi Dothan, this is an iterative process... use the hints that were given before ;) So now you need rra (you can see that in 'checking for rra_matchmaker_replace_partnership in -lrra... no') and given it is looking for -lrra you need a library called rra or similar: apt-cache search rra | grep rra gives you many canditates but the best one are: librra0 - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices librra0-dev - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices (dev files) librra0-tools - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices (tools) Hope this helps ;) Bye Piero Alle 15:07, mercoledì 18 ottobre 2006, Dotan Cohen ha scritto: > On 18/10/06, Tez wrote: > > I think the clue here is in the "-lrapi..." part. > > From experience compiling apps when the configure script checks for > > "-l(Anything)" it's a lib, I guess that's what -l means?? > > So "-lrapi" is looking for rapi library's, on the list I see librapi2 so > > that looks like a good choice. You may need the -dev package as well but > > you can try without to see. > > > > > > If I remember correctly you are trying to compile "syncekonnector", that > > package isn't in dapper, but it is in edgy (which I'm running). It only > > depends on "synce-kde" and you can find it's dependences here > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/utils/synce-kde which may give you some > > help in finding all the packages you need. > > > > Tez > > Turns out that librapi2 was in fact installed already. I installed > librapi2-dev and now its complaining: > > checking for rapi.h... yes > checking for rra_matchmaker_replace_partnership in -lrra... no > configure: error: Can't find RRA library > > Dotan Cohen > > http://fitha.com > http://gmail-com.com/faq.php -- GPG KeyID: 84AE988E Fingerprint: F0A0 CA2A 8D8F CC12 3F5E C04C D8D5 9DC3 84AE 988E gpg --keyserver x-hkp://search.keyserver.net:11371 --recv-key 84AE988E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 13:07:27 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:07:27 +0200 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610180607s3636b12er39ecec6a955230a9@mail.gmail.com> On 18/10/06, Tez wrote: > I think the clue here is in the "-lrapi..." part. > From experience compiling apps when the configure script checks for > "-l(Anything)" it's a lib, I guess that's what -l means?? > So "-lrapi" is looking for rapi library's, on the list I see librapi2 so > that looks like a good choice. You may need the -dev package as well but > you can try without to see. > > > If I remember correctly you are trying to compile "syncekonnector", that > package isn't in dapper, but it is in edgy (which I'm running). It only > depends on "synce-kde" and you can find it's dependences here > http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/utils/synce-kde which may give you some > help in finding all the packages you need. > > Tez Turns out that librapi2 was in fact installed already. I installed librapi2-dev and now its complaining: checking for rapi.h... yes checking for rra_matchmaker_replace_partnership in -lrra... no configure: error: Can't find RRA library Dotan Cohen http://fitha.com http://gmail-com.com/faq.php From newslists at resrequest.com Wed Oct 18 13:21:59 2006 From: newslists at resrequest.com (Richard Howes) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:21:59 +0200 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu Message-ID: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> Hi All, I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first time I am doing this! ;-) I am interested in backup solutions and suggestions. While I am about it I am interested in any possible solutions to backing up a Linux and Windows mixed LAN (via a Linux tool/server of course). Thanks Cheers Richard -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Wed Oct 18 06:50:49 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:50:49 -0400 Subject: Signatures in KMail Message-ID: <200610180250.50289.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> I have seen many messages with more than one automatic signature (uptime, fortune, etc.). How is this accomplished? I know there is the optional Signature field (part of Identity) where a command may be specified. How do you chain two commands together? How about a command, some framing text, then a second command? Thanks for the help, Bob -- Q: How many college football players does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Only one, but he gets three credits for it. From bonedu at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 14:50:03 2006 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:50:03 +0200 Subject: Mouse vertical scroll over Flash, not working In-Reply-To: <20061016212040.17336.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <3e192e060610161013y45aa7ee4x62056159a7a5708f@mail.gmail.com> <20061016212040.17336.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3e192e060610180750s743945bfn527641ab342b1bd8@mail.gmail.com> 2006/10/16, Bry Melvin : > > > > --- Eduard Bonet wrote: > > > Has anyone experienced that in Firefox and > > Konqueror, one can not start > > vertical scroll with the mouse wheel when the cursor > > is just over a flash? > > > > I am using Edgy but this also happened with Dapper. > > And a guy in another > > list confirmed me this strange thing, but had no > > explanation for it. > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > Yes: the code in flash if you hover over it causes it > to overide other things. > > If you use Flashblock extension it will cause the icon > seen instead of the flash to change to an arrow, but > I'm not on a machine with flashblock today so I'm not > sure if this will restore other function. > > This is handy for advertisers using flash but a > nuisance for everyone else. > > Personally I've started blocking adservers to cut down > on the nuisance factors. > > Bryann But this doesn't happen with firefox under windows. Anyway, i can live with it, just wanted at least to know why this happens. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeremy at jdli.net Wed Oct 18 15:25:42 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:25:42 -0400 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610181125.42206.jeremy@jdli.net> Partimage is a pretty good tool. It is a lot like ghost for windows. It can do most any partition so it could do windows and linux partitions. It also has a pretty nice interface. It isn't beautiful but it is easy to use. On Wednesday 18 October 2006 09:21, Richard Howes wrote: > Hi All, > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first time I > am doing this! ;-) > > I am interested in backup solutions and suggestions. > > While I am about it I am interested in any possible solutions to backing up > a Linux and Windows mixed LAN (via a Linux tool/server of course). > > Thanks > Cheers > > Richard > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. From frode at ubuntu.com Wed Oct 18 15:35:20 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:35:20 +0200 Subject: Signatures in KMail In-Reply-To: <200610180250.50289.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200610180250.50289.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200610181735.21355.frode@ubuntu.com> Onsdag 18 oktober 2006 08:50, skrev Robert Tilley: > I have seen many messages with more than one automatic signature (uptime, > fortune, etc.). How is this accomplished? > > I know there is the optional Signature field (part of Identity) where a > command may be specified. How do you chain two commands together? How > about a command, some framing text, then a second command? > > Thanks for the help, Bob You can do this with a shell-script. You can use for example: echo -n "so, this is my uptime: " uptime echo -n "and here is a fortune: " fortune Put it in a file, let's say sig.sh make the file executable (chmod +x sig.sh or use konqueror -> properties) You can run it with './sig.sh' The result will be: so, this is my uptime: 17:32:01 up 5 days, 18:10, 2 users, load average: 0.38, 0.26, 0.35 and here is a fortune: Obviously I was either onto something, or on something. -- Larry Wall on the creation of Perl Play with the file, change stuff and have fun :) - Frode From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 16:49:20 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:49:20 +0200 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 Message-ID: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> Why should I be getting this? $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. Dotan Cohen http://nanir.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/text_editor.html From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 16:46:06 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:46:06 +0200 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <200610181516.20277.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610180607s3636b12er39ecec6a955230a9@mail.gmail.com> <200610181516.20277.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Message-ID: <880dece00610180946k6868e758nd46447f1d1fd4fab@mail.gmail.com> On 18/10/06, Piero Ottuzzi wrote: > Hi Dothan, > > this is an iterative process... use the hints that were given before ;) > So now you need rra (you can see that in 'checking for > rra_matchmaker_replace_partnership in -lrra... no') and given it is looking > for -lrra you need a library called rra or similar: > apt-cache search rra | grep rra > gives you many canditates but the best one are: > librra0 - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices > librra0-dev - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices (dev > files) > librra0-tools - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices > (tools) > > Hope this helps ;) > > Bye > Piero Thanks. I know that I must appear helpless but thats not so. I am certainly learning and most of the obsticals I do pass myself. Just the hard ones I bug you with! librra0 was already installed, and installing librra0-tools didn't help, so I consulted the mailing list before installing lots more unnessacary software by trial and error due to my lack of knowledge. Installing librra0-dev got me a bit further, and now I've gotten myself stuck on: checking for main in -lkonnector... no configure: error: Can't find libkonnector.so $ sudo apt-cache search libkonnector $ Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bluetooth.html http://easyanswers.info From maye.co at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 16:56:46 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (.:M4y3.c0:.) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:56:46 -0500 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <836caaeb0610180956u562b0bf4lf69173079cbf5fe@mail.gmail.com> rsync http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync MY On 10/18/06, Richard Howes wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > backup > my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first time I am > doing > this! ;-) > > I am interested in backup solutions and suggestions. > > While I am about it I am interested in any possible solutions to backing > up a > Linux and Windows mixed LAN (via a Linux tool/server of course). > > Thanks > Cheers > > Richard > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gismo at iol.ie Wed Oct 18 17:22:54 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (gismo at iol.ie) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:22:54 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites Message-ID: <200610181822.54642.gismo@iol.ie> Whenever I try to log on to this website: http://www.iacglobal.com/ My cpu usage goes to 100% and firefox becomes unresponsive and locks up. Yet no problem with the same site with konqueror. does any one else have the same problem?? From rcb at digitalanswers.biz Wed Oct 18 19:19:34 2006 From: rcb at digitalanswers.biz (Rick Chagouri-Brindle) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:19:34 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <200610181822.54642.gismo@iol.ie> References: <200610181822.54642.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <45367E46.2000204@digitalanswers.biz> gismo at iol.ie wrote: > Whenever I try to log on to this website: > http://www.iacglobal.com/ > My cpu usage goes to 100% and firefox becomes unresponsive and locks > up. Yet no problem with the same site with konqueror. > does any one else have the same problem?? > > Nope, I'm afraid I don't have this problem. I am using Firefox 2 RC3 on an Athlon64x2 4200+ based system with 4GB RAM using Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 32bit. From brymelvin at melvinart.com Wed Oct 18 19:21:44 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <200610181822.54642.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <20061018192144.40726.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- gismo at iol.ie wrote: > Whenever I try to log on to this website: > http://www.iacglobal.com/ > My cpu usage goes to 100% and firefox becomes > unresponsive and locks > up. Yet no problem with the same site with > konqueror. > does any one else have the same problem?? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > I just tried it and get the "need a plugin" notice menu strip has below the logo has a java applet on the right hand side Your problem is probably related to your Java and that applet as the page loads normally without Java installed Bryann From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Oct 18 21:43:13 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:43:13 +0100 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <880dece00610180946k6868e758nd46447f1d1fd4fab@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610180607s3636b12er39ecec6a955230a9@mail.gmail.com> <200610181516.20277.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> <880dece00610180946k6868e758nd46447f1d1fd4fab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45369FF1.10801@blueyonder.co.uk> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 18/10/06, Piero Ottuzzi wrote: > >> Hi Dothan, >> >> this is an iterative process... use the hints that were given before ;) >> So now you need rra (you can see that in 'checking for >> rra_matchmaker_replace_partnership in -lrra... no') and given it is looking >> for -lrra you need a library called rra or similar: >> apt-cache search rra | grep rra >> gives you many canditates but the best one are: >> librra0 - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices >> librra0-dev - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices (dev >> files) >> librra0-tools - Library to deal with synchronisation with WinCE devices >> (tools) >> >> Hope this helps ;) >> >> Bye >> Piero >> > > Thanks. I know that I must appear helpless but thats not so. I am > certainly learning and most of the obsticals I do pass myself. Just > the hard ones I bug you with! > > librra0 was already installed, and installing librra0-tools didn't > help, so I consulted the mailing list before installing lots more > unnessacary software by trial and error due to my lack of knowledge. > > Installing librra0-dev got me a bit further, and now I've gotten > myself stuck on: > > checking for main in -lkonnector... no > configure: error: Can't find libkonnector.so > $ sudo apt-cache search libkonnector > $ > > Dotan Cohen > > The fact that it gave you a file name helps there, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has an option to search for files in a package and you can also get a package called "apt-file" that dose the same. A search on the website for "libkonnector.so" in dapper gave me kdepim-dev So try installing that package. Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Oct 18 21:44:54 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:44:54 +0100 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Why should I be getting this? > > $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been kept back: > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > > > Dotan Cohen > > It's usually some dependency problems, you can do: $ sudo apt-get install libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 to see what the problem is, dpkg will give some errors for you. Tez From gismo at iol.ie Wed Oct 18 22:19:02 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (gismo at iol.ie) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:19:02 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <20061018192144.40726.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061018192144.40726.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610182319.02245.gismo@iol.ie> On Wed 18 October 2006 20:21, Bry Melvin wrote: > I just tried it and get the "need a plugin" notice > > menu strip has below the logo has a java applet on the > right hand side > > Your problem is probably related to your Java and that > applet as the page loads normally without Java > installed > > Bryann Right I had a feeling java might have something to do with it I have tried it with swiftfox 1.5.0.7 and the standard kubuntu install which is the same version running on a t43p. I will try it now with the java off. Trouble to update my profile on line with them ,I need the java running. steve From gismo at iol.ie Wed Oct 18 22:20:33 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (gismo at iol.ie) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:20:33 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <45367E46.2000204@digitalanswers.biz> References: <200610181822.54642.gismo@iol.ie> <45367E46.2000204@digitalanswers.biz> Message-ID: <200610182320.33921.gismo@iol.ie> On Wed 18 October 2006 20:19, Rick Chagouri-Brindle wrote: > Nope, I'm afraid I don't have this problem. I am using Firefox 2 > RC3 on an Athlon64x2 4200+ based system with 4GB RAM using Kubuntu > Dapper 6.06 32bit. Hmm I will tru and download that and see if it works steve From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Wed Oct 18 22:36:06 2006 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:36:06 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <200610182319.02245.gismo@iol.ie> References: <20061018192144.40726.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610182319.02245.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <4536AC56.5020505@googlemail.com> gismo at iol.ie wrote: > On Wed 18 October 2006 20:21, Bry Melvin wrote: >> I just tried it and get the "need a plugin" notice >> >> menu strip has below the logo has a java applet on the >> right hand side >> >> Your problem is probably related to your Java and that >> applet as the page loads normally without Java >> installed >> >> Bryann > > Right I had a feeling java might have something to do with it I have > tried it with swiftfox 1.5.0.7 and the standard kubuntu install which > is the same version running on a t43p. > I will try it now with the java off. Trouble to update my profile on > line with them ,I need the java running. > > steve > Just tried it, as I run swiftfox 1.5.0.7 and sure enough it locked up when I switched Java on. This is why I have the NoScript extension, I can switch Java on for the sites I know work OK. SteVe From gismo at iol.ie Wed Oct 18 22:33:39 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (gismo at iol.ie) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:33:39 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <200610182319.02245.gismo@iol.ie> References: <20061018192144.40726.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610182319.02245.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <200610182333.39743.gismo@iol.ie> On Wed 18 October 2006 23:19, gismo at iol.ie wrote: > On Wed 18 October 2006 20:21, Bry Melvin wrote: > > I just tried it and get the "need a plugin" notice > > > > menu strip has below the logo has a java applet on the > > right hand side > > > > Your problem is probably related to your Java and that > > applet as the page loads normally without Java > > installed > > > > Bryann > > Right I had a feeling java might have something to do with it I > have tried it with swiftfox 1.5.0.7 and the standard kubuntu > install which is the same version running on a t43p. > I will try it now with the java off. Trouble to update my profile > on line with them ,I need the java running. > > steve Thanks that's got me in the right direction. I found that with java enabled it locks up but with java disabled and javascript enabled it runs fine and I can update the forms which is great. Now to figure out if I have screwed up the java install or is it that version of firefox. steve From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Wed Oct 18 22:46:12 2006 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:46:12 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <200610182333.39743.gismo@iol.ie> References: <20061018192144.40726.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610182319.02245.gismo@iol.ie> <200610182333.39743.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <4536AEB4.5070105@googlemail.com> gismo at iol.ie wrote: > > Thanks that's got me in the right direction. > I found that with java enabled it locks up but with java disabled and > javascript enabled it runs fine and I can update the forms which is > great. > Now to figure out if I have screwed up the java install or is it that > version of firefox. There are quite a few sites that require java and lock up swiftfox, the ubuntu version of firefox tends to crash and disappear with the same sites. Version 2 of swift/firefox seems to be a lot better. I haven't tried it on the iacglobal site yet. I'll let you know. SteVe From gismo at iol.ie Wed Oct 18 22:55:46 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (gismo at iol.ie) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:55:46 +0100 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <4536AC56.5020505@googlemail.com> References: <20061018192144.40726.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610182319.02245.gismo@iol.ie> <4536AC56.5020505@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <200610182355.46428.gismo@iol.ie> On Wed 18 October 2006 23:36, SteVe Cook wrote: > Just tried it, as I run swiftfox 1.5.0.7 and sure enough it locked > up when I switched Java on.  This is why I have the NoScript > extension, I can switch Java on for the sites I know work OK. > > SteVe Right so its not me, guess I will have to leave my java off. in fact just found the NoScript extension looks like a good idea will give it a go. And just downloaded Firefox 2 RC3, will try it out tomorrow to see if I can get java working with that. Thanks for the help folks. steve From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 22:56:21 2006 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Lord Sauron) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:56:21 -0700 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: <45367E46.2000204@digitalanswers.biz> References: <200610181822.54642.gismo@iol.ie> <45367E46.2000204@digitalanswers.biz> Message-ID: On 10/18/06, Rick Chagouri-Brindle wrote: > > > gismo at iol.ie wrote: > > Whenever I try to log on to this website: > > http://www.iacglobal.com/ > > My cpu usage goes to 100% and firefox becomes unresponsive and locks > > up. Yet no problem with the same site with konqueror. > > does any one else have the same problem?? > > > > > Nope, I'm afraid I don't have this problem. I am using Firefox 2 RC3 on > an Athlon64x2 4200+ based system with 4GB RAM using Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 > 32bit. It's a 64-bit problem. I was using Kubuntu 64-bit and firefox locked on gmail.com all the time. On 32-bit kubuntu and 32-bit gentoo it worked perfectly (more than perfectly, actually, but I'll not digress). I don't know how to fix firefox, however, I do know the problem is related to Java/JavaScript functionality on 64-bit systems (with 64-bit Kubuntu). Good luck! -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? 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This is why I have the NoScript >> extension, I can switch Java on for the sites I know work OK. >> >> SteVe > > Right so its not me, guess I will have to leave my java off. > in fact just found the NoScript extension looks like a good idea will > give it a go. > And just downloaded Firefox 2 RC3, will try it out tomorrow to see if > I can get java working with that. > Thanks for the help folks. > > steve > Just tried firefox 2 on edgy with the Java stuff from the edgy repositories and every thing works OK. SteVe From lists at wordit.com Thu Oct 19 00:59:54 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:59:54 +0200 Subject: firefox locking up on certain web sites In-Reply-To: References: <200610181822.54642.gismo@iol.ie> <45367E46.2000204@digitalanswers.biz> Message-ID: <200610190259.54335.lists@wordit.com> On Thursday 19 October 2006 00:56, Lord Sauron wrote: > I don't know how to fix firefox, however, I do know the problem is > related to Java/JavaScript functionality on 64-bit systems (with > 64-bit Kubuntu). I've also had it happen with other sites on 32-bit Linux, and Windows. The machine stalls as though huge amounts of CPU and/or swap space are being used. I wonder whether it's a Java issue, Firefox integration, or bad web programming? Maybe a web developer would have more insight into this? Marcus From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 19 02:02:08 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:02:08 -0400 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper Message-ID: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> Hi! I have Dapper 6.06 with latest updates and KDE 3.5.5 (repo data from the kde/kubuntu site) and OOo 2.0.2. I just tried to print something, but it just said print error. I did file>print and the only printer there was 'Generic Printer'. On any other program (kde, firefox,etc.) the printer named 'printer' shows up and works. When I try to set up printer, OOo just crashes. What am I to do? Thanks! From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Thu Oct 19 03:06:44 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:06:44 -0700 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200610182006.44754.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Wednesday 18 October 2006 19:02, Steven Pasternak wrote: > Hi! I have Dapper 6.06 with latest updates and KDE 3.5.5 (repo data from > the kde/kubuntu site) and OOo 2.0.2. I just tried to print something, > but it just said print error. I did file>print and the only printer > there was 'Generic Printer'. On any other program (kde, firefox,etc.) > the printer named 'printer' shows up and works. When I try to set up > printer, OOo just crashes. What am I to do? Thanks! Interesting. I am running KDE 3.5.5 with OOo 2.0.2 and all is working fine. Have you reloaded X, or rebooted since your upgrade to 3.5.5? This may be necessary to stop all the old versions of programs, and start the new ones. I have now started doing this when I upload a new version of KDE, as it is now getting so complex that it may not run right until everything new is running properly together. Otherwise, have you checked in the KDE Control Panel for the printer settings and made sure that it was working properly. This is all just a stab in the dark. Maybe you could let us in on the nature of the error more. It sounds like an OOo error, but maybe it is CUPS? Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 19 03:13:42 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:13:42 -0400 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610182006.44754.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> <200610182006.44754.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4536ED66.3010405@bellsouth.net> Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 19:02, Steven Pasternak wrote: > >> Hi! I have Dapper 6.06 with latest updates and KDE 3.5.5 (repo data from >> the kde/kubuntu site) and OOo 2.0.2. I just tried to print something, >> but it just said print error. I did file>print and the only printer >> there was 'Generic Printer'. On any other program (kde, firefox,etc.) >> the printer named 'printer' shows up and works. When I try to set up >> printer, OOo just crashes. What am I to do? Thanks! >> > > Interesting. I am running KDE 3.5.5 with OOo 2.0.2 and all is working fine. > > Have you reloaded X, or rebooted since your upgrade to 3.5.5? This may be > necessary to stop all the old versions of programs, and start the new ones. I > have now started doing this when I upload a new version of KDE, as it is now > getting so complex that it may not run right until everything new is running > properly together. > > Otherwise, have you checked in the KDE Control Panel for the printer settings > and made sure that it was working properly. > > This is all just a stab in the dark. Maybe you could let us in on the nature > of the error more. It sounds like an OOo error, but maybe it is CUPS? > > Rob > I rebooted before I sent the message. I know it isn't cups/the printer because I installed kword and printed it out a minute ago (it's due tomorrow!). It seems to be OOo, so what should I do? Steven From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Oct 19 03:26:23 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:26:23 -0400 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <836caaeb0610180956u562b0bf4lf69173079cbf5fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> <836caaeb0610180956u562b0bf4lf69173079cbf5fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610182326.24071.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:56, .:M4y3.c0:. wrote: No, not rsync by itself. rdiff-backup is a great tool which simplifies rsync across multiple machines, etc. Also, with hard drives so cheap, what's wrong with just copying all files to another partition? The partition info ITSELF is not the important thing, but the data. And if the guy is asking about backups, is it a good idea to move to a beta system in any case? > rsync > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync > > MY > > On 10/18/06, Richard Howes wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > > backup > > my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first time I am > > doing > > this! ;-) From hawkwind at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 03:34:32 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:34:32 -0500 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610182326.24071.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> <836caaeb0610180956u562b0bf4lf69173079cbf5fe@mail.gmail.com> <200610182326.24071.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: On 10/18/06, Brendan wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:56, .:M4y3.c0:. wrote: > > No, not rsync by itself. What's wrong with using rsync by itself as a backup ? I do it across my entire LAN on 8 different machines without any single issues. It's quick, efficient and just plain works. Hard to go wrong with rsync itself to be honest. It saves time running tar or whatever to backup directories, then mv or scp them across the LAN. rdiff-backup is a great tool which simplifies rsync across multiple > machines, > etc. > > Also, with hard drives so cheap, what's wrong with just copying all files > to > another partition? The partition info ITSELF is not the important thing, > but > the data. > > And if the guy is asking about backups, is it a good idea to move to a > beta > system in any case? > > > rsync > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync > > > > MY > > > > On 10/18/06, Richard Howes wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > > > backup > > > my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first time I am > > > doing > > > this! ;-) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Trouble to > update my profile > > on line with them ,I need the java running. > > > > steve > > Thanks that's got me in the right direction. > I found that with java enabled it locks up but with > java disabled and > javascript enabled it runs fine and I can update the > forms which is > great. > Now to figure out if I have screwed up the java > install or is it that > version of firefox. > > steve > The easiest way to check it out is to install another browser. I recommend Opera. If there is a problem with the Ubuntu Java from the repository you could always suffer through installing the Generic from Sun. I usually installthe repository Java in Ubuntu, Then I also install Firefox, Java 5 Flash 9 Realplayer 10 etc using the windows versions with a wine installation. Gives a wider range of testing capability. Bryann From maye.co at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 03:56:28 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (.:M4y3.c0:.) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:56:28 -0500 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> <836caaeb0610180956u562b0bf4lf69173079cbf5fe@mail.gmail.com> <200610182326.24071.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <836caaeb0610182056i230d80bbic9adf3223445f0bc@mail.gmail.com> rsync is great... :) MY On 10/18/06, Hawkwind wrote: > > > > On 10/18/06, Brendan wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:56, .:M4y3.c0:. wrote: > > > > No, not rsync by itself. > > > > What's wrong with using rsync by itself as a backup ? I do it across my > entire LAN on 8 different machines without any single issues. It's quick, > efficient and just plain works. Hard to go wrong with rsync itself to be > honest. It saves time running tar or whatever to backup directories, then > mv or scp them across the LAN. > > > rdiff-backup is a great tool which simplifies rsync across multiple > > machines, > > etc. > > > > Also, with hard drives so cheap, what's wrong with just copying all > > files to > > another partition? The partition info ITSELF is not the important thing, > > but > > the data. > > > > And if the guy is asking about backups, is it a good idea to move to a > > beta > > system in any case? > > > > > rsync > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync > > > > > > MY > > > > > > On 10/18/06, Richard Howes < newslists at resrequest.com> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. 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URL: From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Thu Oct 19 04:40:59 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:40:59 -0700 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <4536ED66.3010405@bellsouth.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> <200610182006.44754.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <4536ED66.3010405@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200610182140.59888.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Wednesday 18 October 2006 20:13, Steven Pasternak wrote: > Rob Blomquist wrote: > I rebooted before I sent the message. I know it isn't cups/the printer > because I installed kword and printed it out a minute ago (it's due > tomorrow!). It seems to be OOo, so what should I do? Yikes! With that dead line, I would copy/paste my document into KWord, and crank it out! Then print it out there. Good luck! Good grief. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From list.dhooge at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 05:03:58 2006 From: list.dhooge at gmail.com (Michel D'HOOGE) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:03:58 +0200 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610190704.14091.list.dhooge@gmail.com> > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first time I > am doing this! ;-) I've been looking for a while for a good solution to do backup and - even more important - being able to easily and quickly restore when needed. After trying some tools, I stopped my errand on dar/kdar. It is a kind of rewrite of tar, but oriented for disks and with nice, additional features (encryption, incremental backup, ...) dar sounds really mature to me, while kdar (a KDE GUI for dar) is young but still useful. Now, I have several configuration files to archive different parts of my system from the CLI but I still use kdar to browse the archive when needed. -- Michel From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 06:40:29 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:40:29 +0200 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610182340l77f110edi2db95e87d4aca36c@mail.gmail.com> On 18/10/06, Tez wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Why should I be getting this? > > > > $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > > Calculating upgrade... Done > > The following packages have been kept back: > > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > It's usually some dependency problems, you can do: > $ sudo apt-get install libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 > > to see what the problem is, dpkg will give some errors for you. > > Tez dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libfaac0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed libmp4v2-0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed E: Broken packages dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ Now, I did install some *-dev packages to get Synce running, so I'm trying to tremove them. Is there not a list of all the last things I installed via apt-get? I looked around in /var/log but only aptitude has an entry, not apt-get. And I didn't see anything helpful in syslog Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/text_editor.html http://ultu.com From piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it Thu Oct 19 07:41:21 2006 From: piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it (Piero Ottuzzi) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:41:21 +0200 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200610190941.24726.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Alle 04:02, giovedì 19 ottobre 2006, Steven Pasternak ha scritto: > Hi! I have Dapper 6.06 with latest updates and KDE 3.5.5 (repo data from > the kde/kubuntu site) and OOo 2.0.2. I just tried to print something, > but it just said print error. I did file>print and the only printer > there was 'Generic Printer'. On any other program (kde, firefox,etc.) > the printer named 'printer' shows up and works. When I try to set up > printer, OOo just crashes. What am I to do? Thanks! Hi there, there is a bug open in launchpad [1]. I also, with many others, experience the same problem... please post a comment in the bug opened in launchpad hoping it will be fixed (or, at least, looked in). Bye Piero [1]https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/33782 -- You will always have good luck in your personal affairs. --------------------------------------- GPG KeyID: 84AE988E Fingerprint: F0A0 CA2A 8D8F CC12 3F5E C04C D8D5 9DC3 84AE 988E gpg --keyserver x-hkp://search.keyserver.net:11371 --recv-key 84AE988E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Done >>> The following packages have been kept back: >>> >>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. >>> >>> Dotan Cohen >>> >>> >> It's usually some dependency problems, you can do: >> $ sudo apt-get install libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 >> >> to see what the problem is, dpkg will give some errors for you. >> >> Tez >> > > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 > Password: > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libfaac0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed > libmp4v2-0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed > Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is > to be installed > Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is > to be installed > E: Broken packages > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ > > Now, I did install some *-dev packages to get Synce running, so I'm > trying to tremove them. Is there not a list of all the last things I > installed via apt-get? I looked around in /var/log but only aptitude > has an entry, not apt-get. And I didn't see anything helpful in syslog > > Dotan Cohen > > I don't think there is an apt-get log anywhere, at least I haven't found it, but dpkg keeps a log at /var/log/dpkg.log that should help. Tez From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 08:37:11 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:37:11 +0200 Subject: ./configure problems (was: Installing X-development package) In-Reply-To: <45369FF1.10801@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00610170031n2fcf8b8fuee0acd5c171ece2c@mail.gmail.com> <453561B9.9070604@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610180607s3636b12er39ecec6a955230a9@mail.gmail.com> <200610181516.20277.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> <880dece00610180946k6868e758nd46447f1d1fd4fab@mail.gmail.com> <45369FF1.10801@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610190137sa0f2d6h99ffa7f0d6333d2f@mail.gmail.com> On 18/10/06, Tez wrote: > The fact that it gave you a file name helps there, > http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has an option to search for files in a > package and you can also get a package called "apt-file" that dose the same. > A search on the website for "libkonnector.so" in dapper gave me > kdepim-dev > > > So try installing that package. > > Tez > Thanks, Tez. But I see that I've broken other things with the this (I suspect because of the dev packages), so I must abandon this and attempt to fix the damage. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/text_editor.html http://essentialinux.com/linux-software.php From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 08:42:58 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:42:58 +0200 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <4537374A.5070301@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610182340l77f110edi2db95e87d4aca36c@mail.gmail.com> <4537374A.5070301@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610190142u67aa1fabk69406c6eb1bb6f0b@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/06, Tez wrote: > I don't think there is an apt-get log anywhere, at least I haven't found > it, but dpkg keeps a log at /var/log/dpkg.log that should help. > > Tez Tez, I don't know what I'd do without your help! That log is just what I need. Oh, this is not going to be fun, the log is full of "half-installed" messages, like such: 2006-10-19 08:52:12 status half-installed libxtst-dev 2:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/digg.html http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/why_are_internet_greeting_cards_dangerous.html From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Oct 18 19:09:41 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:09:41 -0300 Subject: adding a debian repository References: <200610171057.13997.jeremy@jdli.net> Message-ID: Jeremy Anderson wrote: > how would I make the following into a repository in kubuntu dapper. I > know how to manipulate the sources file but for some reason I can't get > this to work as a repository > http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/debian/main/binary-i386/pluto-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb > > I know that I wouldn't put the *.deb in it... > > here is an example of what I tried: > > deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/debian sarge main That won't work (but you knew that :-) ). A debian-type distro source looks like: deb http://PATH/ VERSION [section-list] where 'VERSION' is something like sarge or dapper, and 'section list' is a space separated list of sections (e.g., 'main restricted universe'). That translates to urls like: http://PATH/dists/VERSION/main/ and http://PATH/dists/VERSION/universe/ so the problem is that you need a path with "/dists/" in it. iirc, I've seen something constructed to produce a URL like: http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/dists/../debian/main/binary-i386/pluto-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb by using a source of: deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/ ../debian main HTH! -- derek From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 19 12:09:12 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:09:12 +0100 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <880dece00610190142u67aa1fabk69406c6eb1bb6f0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610182340l77f110edi2db95e87d4aca36c@mail.gmail.com> <4537374A.5070301@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610190142u67aa1fabk69406c6eb1bb6f0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45376AE8.4000607@blueyonder.co.uk> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 19/10/06, Tez wrote: > >> I don't think there is an apt-get log anywhere, at least I haven't found >> it, but dpkg keeps a log at /var/log/dpkg.log that should help. >> >> Tez >> > > Tez, I don't know what I'd do without your help! That log is just what > I need. Oh, this is not going to be fun, the log is full of > "half-installed" messages, like such: > 2006-10-19 08:52:12 status half-installed libxtst-dev 2:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 > > Dotan Cohen > Well, you know the date you installed them so you can do something like: $ grep "2006-10-19" /var/log/dpkg.log | grep installed to filter out everything except packages that were fully installed on that date, and time if you add that. Something more complicated that will restrict the output to minimum is $ grep "2006-10-19" /var/log/dpkg.log | grep installed | grep -v "\-installed" | uniq That will search /var/log/dpkg.log for lines with "2006-10-19" and "installed", then filter out lines with -installed (like lines with "half-installed"), then will remove any duplicate lines (if you installed, removed and then installed again). Grep is a cool tool when you get to know the power of it. Tez From gismo at iol.ie Thu Oct 19 12:39:41 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (gismo at iol.ie) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:39:41 +0100 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610191339.42012.gismo@iol.ie> On Wed 18 October 2006 14:21, Richard Howes wrote: > Hi All, > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want > to backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the > first time I am doing this! ;-) > > I am interested in backup solutions and suggestions. > > While I am about it I am interested in any possible solutions to > backing up a Linux and Windows mixed LAN (via a Linux tool/server > of course). > > Thanks > Cheers > > Richard I use true image by acronis backing up to a buffalo link station ethernet or to a spare hard drive . Works great I create an image of the whole drive and back it up, you just use the boot cd and do it from there (dos) I haven't used windoze for a while but I think you can do it from windoze with out going into dos (rebooting). I think there is a linux version as well but its expensive, I often see it posted in the warez groups though. steve From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 12:47:40 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:47:40 +0200 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <45376AE8.4000607@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610182340l77f110edi2db95e87d4aca36c@mail.gmail.com> <4537374A.5070301@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610190142u67aa1fabk69406c6eb1bb6f0b@mail.gmail.com> <45376AE8.4000607@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610190547l4c379aedg12250ad09d939577@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/06, Tez wrote: > Well, you know the date you installed them so you can do something like: > $ grep "2006-10-19" /var/log/dpkg.log | grep installed > to filter out everything except packages that were fully installed on > that date, and time if you add that. > > Something more complicated that will restrict the output to minimum is > $ grep "2006-10-19" /var/log/dpkg.log | grep installed | grep -v > "\-installed" | uniq > > That will search /var/log/dpkg.log for lines with "2006-10-19" and > "installed", then filter out lines with -installed (like lines with > "half-installed"), then will remove any duplicate lines (if you > installed, removed and then installed again). Grep is a cool tool when > you get to know the power of it. Yeah, I just copied the last few days to a text file and I'm going by that. I still can't seem to get it to the point that I can upgrade the system. Dotan Cohen http://dagot.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/spam.html From jeremy at jdli.net Thu Oct 19 12:56:06 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:56:06 -0400 Subject: adding a debian repository In-Reply-To: References: <200610171057.13997.jeremy@jdli.net> Message-ID: <200610190856.36754.jeremy@jdli.net> Thanks for the info. I am still messed up here so I decided why not send the link to help you help me... lol... http://plutohome.com/support/index.php?section=packageDownload&pkid=119 It is the debian package at the very bottom that I am trying to get but through a repository. I am normally not this dumb but for some reason apt-get update keeps wanting to put an extra /dist/ in there. On Wednesday 18 October 2006 15:09, Derek Broughton wrote: > Jeremy Anderson wrote: > > how would I make the following into a repository in kubuntu dapper. I > > know how to manipulate the sources file but for some reason I can't get > > this to work as a repository > > http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/debian/main/binary-i386/pluto-orbite >r_2.0.0.40_i386.deb > > > I know that I wouldn't put the *.deb in it... > > > > here is an example of what I tried: > > > > deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/debian sarge main > > That won't work (but you knew that :-) ). > > A debian-type distro source looks like: > > deb http://PATH/ VERSION [section-list] > > where 'VERSION' is something like sarge or dapper, and 'section list' is a > space separated list of sections (e.g., 'main restricted universe'). > > That translates to urls like: > > http://PATH/dists/VERSION/main/ > and > http://PATH/dists/VERSION/universe/ > > so the problem is that you need a path with "/dists/" in it. iirc, I've > seen something constructed to produce a URL like: > > http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/dists/../debian/main/binary-i386/plu >to-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb > > by using a source of: > > deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/ ../debian main > > HTH! > -- > derek -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Oct 19 12:57:05 2006 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:57:05 +0100 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <880dece00610190547l4c379aedg12250ad09d939577@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610182340l77f110edi2db95e87d4aca36c@mail.gmail.com> <4537374A.5070301@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610190142u67aa1fabk69406c6eb1bb6f0b@mail.gmail.com> <45376AE8.4000607@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610190547l4c379aedg12250ad09d939577@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061019135705.253b0702.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:47:40 +0200 "Dotan Cohen" wrote: DC> On 19/10/06, Tez wrote: DC> > Well, you know the date you installed them so you can do something DC> > like: $ grep "2006-10-19" /var/log/dpkg.log | grep installed DC> > to filter out everything except packages that were fully installed DC> > on that date, and time if you add that. DC> > DC> > Something more complicated that will restrict the output to DC> > minimum is $ grep "2006-10-19" /var/log/dpkg.log | grep installed DC> > | grep -v DC> > "\-installed" | uniq DC> > DC> > That will search /var/log/dpkg.log for lines with "2006-10-19" and DC> > "installed", then filter out lines with -installed (like lines DC> > with "half-installed"), then will remove any duplicate lines (if DC> > you installed, removed and then installed again). Grep is a cool DC> > tool when you get to know the power of it. DC> DC> Yeah, I just copied the last few days to a text file and I'm going DC> by that. I still can't seem to get it to the point that I can DC> upgrade the system. DC> DC> Dotan Cohen DC> DC> http://dagot.com DC> http://what-is-what.com/what_is/spam.html DC> The problem with the koffice 1.6 packages looks to be that a file has been migrated from krita-data to krita (or vice versa) and so it's complaining about not being able to overwrite it and then has problems with the dependencies. Doing: sudo apt-get -f upgrade from the command line fixed it for me. James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From newslists at resrequest.com Thu Oct 19 13:00:17 2006 From: newslists at resrequest.com (Richard Howes) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:00:17 +0200 Subject: Kmail and bogifilter catching legit email Message-ID: <200610191500.17731.newslists@resrequest.com> Hi All, I decided to give bogofilter in kmail a go again because of the increase in SPAM I am getting. Working better than last time I used it but I am still getting a lot of false positives. We use spamassassin on our mail server so I am only trying to catch stuff that gets through. Most of the false positives are getting 100% spam score on bogofilter and -5% on spamassassin. Anyone using bogofilter successfully? Thanks Cheers Richard -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 13:02:33 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:02:33 -0600 Subject: Q; kdevelop installation In-Reply-To: References: <256f4e900610170204h4f62dc78j93ba9cffe50146b2@mail.gmail.com> <256f4e900610170926g46ec08a9r98daa625c10bd9af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610190602w1ba84187hb7ff0cd037c82c17@mail.gmail.com> On 17/10/06, Oliver Maunder wrote: > > > I've got kdevelop and kdevelop-data installed and it's working fine. I just > did an "apt-get install kdevelop", so I wasn't tempted by the kdevelop3 > package! > > > But even after installation of these packages: > > 1. There is no KDevelop item on the menu > > 2. If I type "kdevelop" in a console, kdevelop tries to start but > > complains that it can't find any plug-ins. > > > > Actually - looking at it in more detail, kdevelop3 is just a dummy package. > It doesn't install any files itself, but does require kdevelop to be > installed. So, there's effectively no difference between installing kdevelop > and kdevelop3. > > As for menu entries, I've got a whole KDevelop submenu under > K->Development->KDevelop > I just re-installed kdevelop from scratch (for the third time). At least it's consistent. No menu items at all. > > Try "kdevelop --profile CandCppIDE" instead and see if that gets you > anywhere. I did that. It still complains about a lack of plugins. > > FWIW - I'm running Edgy Beta. Things could be different under Dapper. > I'm on 6.06-1, fully updated, AMD64. I've filed a bug report. From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 13:06:56 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:06:56 -0600 Subject: Q: sshfs Message-ID: <256f4e900610190606y40daaa0bg959d283514e7b9d5@mail.gmail.com> Another in my series of "this worked in Mdv but I can't get it to work in Kubuntu" issues :-( What do I need to do to get sshfs to work? I have installed sshfs (and fuse). [H:arris] sshfs modeler at modeler.arrisi.com: /home/n7dr/remote/arris/modeler modeler at modeler.arrisi.com's password: fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory [H:arris] ls -al /dev/fuse ls: /dev/fuse: No such file or directory [H:arris] The sshfs command above ought to work. What am I missing? It looks like it's some fundamental problem with fuse??? From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 19 13:15:00 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:15:00 +0100 Subject: adding a debian repository In-Reply-To: <200610190856.36754.jeremy@jdli.net> References: <200610171057.13997.jeremy@jdli.net> <200610190856.36754.jeremy@jdli.net> Message-ID: <45377A54.9040700@blueyonder.co.uk> Jeremy Anderson wrote: > Thanks for the info. I am still messed up here so I decided why not send the > link to help you help me... lol... > > http://plutohome.com/support/index.php?section=packageDownload&pkid=119 > > It is the debian package at the very bottom that I am trying to get but > through a repository. > > I am normally not this dumb but for some reason apt-get update keeps wanting > to put an extra /dist/ in there. > > I put "deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/ ../debian main" in to my sources.list and did an "apt-get update" and that seemed to work for me. $ apt-cache policy pluto-orbiter pluto-orbiter: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.0.0.40 Version table: 2.0.0.40 0 500 http://debsarge.plutohome.com ../debian/main Packages Tez From buggerone at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 13:19:56 2006 From: buggerone at gmail.com (JJL) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:19:56 +0200 Subject: Q: sshfs In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610190606y40daaa0bg959d283514e7b9d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610190606y40daaa0bg959d283514e7b9d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, [H:arris] sshfs modeler at modeler.arrisi.com: /home/n7dr/remote/arris/modeler > modeler at modeler.arrisi.com's password: > fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory > [H:arris] ls -al /dev/fuse > ls: /dev/fuse: No such file or directory > [H:arris] Maybe a loding module problem. You can try : sudo modprobe fuse or add it to your /etc/modules and reboot. Regards JJL -- http://kubuntu.free.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi Thu Oct 19 13:34:25 2006 From: janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Janne_V=E4nttinen?=) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:34:25 +0300 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610191339.42012.gismo@iol.ie> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610191339.42012.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <45377EE1.2040008@cs.helsinki.fi> gismo at iol.ie wrote: > On Wed 18 October 2006 14:21, Richard Howes wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want >> to backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the >> first time I am doing this! ;-) >> >> I am interested in backup solutions and suggestions. >> >> While I am about it I am interested in any possible solutions to >> backing up a Linux and Windows mixed LAN (via a Linux tool/server >> of course). >> >> Thanks >> Cheers >> >> Richard > > I use true image by acronis backing up to a buffalo link station > ethernet or to a spare hard drive . > Works great I create an image of the whole drive and back it up, you > just use the boot cd and do it from there (dos) I haven't used > windoze for a while but I think you can do it from windoze with out > going into dos (rebooting). > I think there is a linux version as well but its expensive, I often > see it posted in the warez groups though. > > steve > Perhaps advocating warez groups on this mailing list is not such a smart idea... You know, it's that free as in _speech_ thing again. From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 13:59:52 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:59:52 -0600 Subject: Q: sshfs In-Reply-To: References: <256f4e900610190606y40daaa0bg959d283514e7b9d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610190659r5943aa70q986d6a86cad7dcca@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/06, JJL wrote: > Maybe a loding module problem. > You can try : sudo modprobe fuse > or add it to your /etc/modules and reboot. > Brilliant! "sudo modprobe fuse" worked. Thank you very much. From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Oct 19 14:00:15 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:00:15 -0300 Subject: adding a debian repository References: <200610171057.13997.jeremy@jdli.net> <200610190856.36754.jeremy@jdli.net> Message-ID: Jeremy Anderson wrote: > Thanks for the info. I am still messed up here so I decided why not send > the link to help you help me... lol... Please don't top-post. > > http://plutohome.com/support/index.php?section=packageDownload&pkid=119 > > It is the debian package at the very bottom that I am trying to get but > through a repository. > > I am normally not this dumb but for some reason apt-get update keeps > wanting to put an extra /dist/ in there. Did you try what I wrote? >> so the problem is that you need a path with "/dists/" in it. iirc, I've >> seen something constructed to produce a URL like: >> >> http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/dists/../debian/main/binary-i386/plu >>to-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb >> >> by using a source of: >> >> deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/ ../debian main I'll be damned if I'm going to try to download a package that doesn't even contain a proper description - but after adding that line to my sources and running "aptitude update" it at least finds the "Packages" file and _wants_ to download the package and all it's dependencies. It can't find pluto-kernel-upgrade, though, which prevents it downloading anything. If it can find the Packages file, the rest (of that repo) should be fine. -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 14:29:09 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:29:09 +0200 Subject: Media player recommendation Message-ID: <880dece00610190729x4e45aa54o7f2b1e5317679d61@mail.gmail.com> I need to see RealMedia and .wmv video at the university. I've been using KMplayer now, but it's missing some features that I'd like. Can anyone recommend a player that can slow down and speed up videos? (2x speed, 8x speed, 1/2 speed, etc...) Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ubuntu.html http://lyricslist.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 14:24:58 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:24:58 +0200 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <20061019135705.253b0702.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <4536A056.1090403@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610182340l77f110edi2db95e87d4aca36c@mail.gmail.com> <4537374A.5070301@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610190142u67aa1fabk69406c6eb1bb6f0b@mail.gmail.com> <45376AE8.4000607@blueyonder.co.uk> <880dece00610190547l4c379aedg12250ad09d939577@mail.gmail.com> <20061019135705.253b0702.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <880dece00610190724h76cabb90re407a5092e964567@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/06, James Tappin wrote: > The problem with the koffice 1.6 packages looks to be that a file has > been migrated from krita-data to krita (or vice versa) and so it's > complaining about not being able to overwrite it and then has problems > with the dependencies. Doing: > sudo apt-get -f upgrade > from the command line fixed it for me. > > James dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -f upgrade Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages have been kept back: libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: libfaac0 libmp4v2-0 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ From johndecarlo at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 14:45:51 2006 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:45:51 -0400 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <3dde113c0610190745p7d300b1ex9ac21e65eee1757c@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Another approach might be to install OOo 2.0.4 - it has much better support for KDE. That does mean downloading the real version from openoffice.org, but it is probably worth it. Does anyone know if 2.0.4 is available from another repository somewhere? Thanks. On 10/18/06, Steven Pasternak wrote: > Hi! I have Dapper 6.06 with latest updates and KDE 3.5.5 (repo data from > the kde/kubuntu site) and OOo 2.0.2. I just tried to print something, > but it just said print error. I did file>print and the only printer > there was 'Generic Printer'. On any other program (kde, firefox,etc.) > the printer named 'printer' shows up and works. When I try to set up > printer, OOo just crashes. What am I to do? Thanks! -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own From jeremy at jdli.net Thu Oct 19 15:01:05 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:01:05 -0400 Subject: adding a debian repository In-Reply-To: References: <200610171057.13997.jeremy@jdli.net> <200610190856.36754.jeremy@jdli.net> Message-ID: <200610191101.05378.jeremy@jdli.net> On Thursday 19 October 2006 10:00, Derek Broughton wrote: > Jeremy Anderson wrote: > > Thanks for the info. I am still messed up here so I decided why not send > > the link to help you help me... lol... > > Please don't top-post. > > > http://plutohome.com/support/index.php?section=packageDownload&pkid=119 > > > > It is the debian package at the very bottom that I am trying to get but > > through a repository. > > > > I am normally not this dumb but for some reason apt-get update keeps > > wanting to put an extra /dist/ in there. > > Did you try what I wrote? > > >> so the problem is that you need a path with "/dists/" in it. iirc, I've > >> seen something constructed to produce a URL like: > > http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/dists/../debian/main/binary-i386/plu > > >>to-orbiter_2.0.0.40_i386.deb > >> > >> by using a source of: > >> > >> deb http://debsarge.plutohome.com/download/ ../debian main > > I'll be damned if I'm going to try to download a package that doesn't even > contain a proper description - but after adding that line to my sources and > running "aptitude update" it at least finds the "Packages" file and _wants_ > to download the package and all it's dependencies. It can't find > pluto-kernel-upgrade, though, which prevents it downloading anything. If > it can find the Packages file, the rest (of that repo) should be fine. > -- > derek Thank you sir. That worked... now I just have a broken package. Oh well... I will compile the source. Thanks again. From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 15:21:36 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:21:36 -0500 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610190704.14091.list.dhooge@gmail.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610190704.14091.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610191021.36960.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 19 October 2006 12:03 am, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > > backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first time > > I am doing this! ;-) > > I've been looking for a while for a good solution to do backup and - even > more important - being able to easily and quickly restore when needed. > After trying some tools, I stopped my errand on dar/kdar. It is a kind of > rewrite of tar, but oriented for disks and with nice, additional features > (encryption, incremental backup, ...) > > dar sounds really mature to me, while kdar (a KDE GUI for dar) is young but > still useful. Now, I have several configuration files to archive different > parts of my system from the CLI but I still use kdar to browse the archive > when needed. Are there no simple backup applications that could equate to Windows Backup? Where you open a gui click on the files you want to backup, tell it where to back them up, and wait for it to get done? Surely someone in the Free (as in speech) software world has come up with one. I wouldn't even mind paying a small price for one. But I'm not going to pay 245 dollars to backup my laptop. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From jeremy at jdli.net Thu Oct 19 15:32:08 2006 From: jeremy at jdli.net (Jeremy Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:32:08 -0400 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610191021.36960.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610190704.14091.list.dhooge@gmail.com> <200610191021.36960.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610191132.08905.jeremy@jdli.net> On Thursday 19 October 2006 11:21, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 19 October 2006 12:03 am, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: > > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > > > backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first > > > time I am doing this! ;-) > > > > I've been looking for a while for a good solution to do backup and - even > > more important - being able to easily and quickly restore when needed. > > After trying some tools, I stopped my errand on dar/kdar. It is a kind of > > rewrite of tar, but oriented for disks and with nice, additional features > > (encryption, incremental backup, ...) > > > > dar sounds really mature to me, while kdar (a KDE GUI for dar) is young > > but still useful. Now, I have several configuration files to archive > > different parts of my system from the CLI but I still use kdar to browse > > the archive when needed. > > Are there no simple backup applications that could equate to Windows > Backup? Where you open a gui click on the files you want to backup, tell it > where to back them up, and wait for it to get done? Surely someone in the > Free (as in speech) software world has come up with one. I wouldn't even > mind paying a small price for one. But I'm not going to pay 245 dollars to > backup my laptop. > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore If you are running kde have you tried "keep"? I don't use it but it looks pretty gui-ish. From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Thu Oct 19 15:41:09 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy Penguin) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:41:09 -0700 Subject: Backup solutions on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610191021.36960.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610181521.59135.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610190704.14091.list.dhooge@gmail.com> <200610191021.36960.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610190841.09523.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Thursday 19 October 2006 08:21, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 19 October 2006 12:03 am, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: > > > I am about to migrate from Dapper to Edgy. Before doing that I want to > > > backup my important stuff as suggested, which is probably the first > > > time I am doing this! ;-) > > > > I've been looking for a while for a good solution to do backup and - even > > more important - being able to easily and quickly restore when needed. > > After trying some tools, I stopped my errand on dar/kdar. It is a kind of > > rewrite of tar, but oriented for disks and with nice, additional features > > (encryption, incremental backup, ...) > > > > dar sounds really mature to me, while kdar (a KDE GUI for dar) is young > > but still useful. Now, I have several configuration files to archive > > different parts of my system from the CLI but I still use kdar to browse > > the archive when needed. > > Are there no simple backup applications that could equate to Windows > Backup? Where you open a gui click on the files you want to backup, tell it > where to back them up, and wait for it to get done? Surely someone in the > Free (as in speech) software world has come up with one. I wouldn't even > mind paying a small price for one. But I'm not going to pay 245 dollars to > backup my laptop. did you try keep? > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From jsidgman at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 15:55:36 2006 From: jsidgman at gmail.com (Jurgen Sidgman) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:55:36 -0500 Subject: iPod Mac Format In-Reply-To: <836caaeb0610151308x2359388r1ba942be571da731@mail.gmail.com> References: <836caaeb0610151308x2359388r1ba942be571da731@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610191055.36960.jsidgman@gmail.com> On Sunday 15 October 2006 15:08, .:M4y3.c0:. wrote: > Heyyy, > A friend have a ipod with mac format, I want to connected in my Kubuntu > Drapper, with amaroK, > there is any wat to mount the ipod with mac format? > MY I believe you should add something like this to your fstab file /dev/sda /mnt/ipod hfsplus noauto,user 0 0 change sda to where your ipod has been detected to. Also, you will need to create the ipod folder under mnt. Hope it helps jurgen From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 17:16:46 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:16:46 +0200 Subject: Kate: spell check, HTMLtidy Message-ID: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> In the options for Kate, I do not see where I can choose a spellcheck engine. Can someone verify that this does in fact exist in the current version of Kate (2.5.5)? Also, what happened to HTML tidy in Kate? Is that gone, too? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ From maye.co at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 17:41:01 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (.:M4y3.c0:.) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:41:01 -0500 Subject: Media player recommendation In-Reply-To: <880dece00610190729x4e45aa54o7f2b1e5317679d61@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610190729x4e45aa54o7f2b1e5317679d61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <836caaeb0610191041m65453946scb937e75bb8e51a8@mail.gmail.com> vlc is the king MY On 10/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I need to see RealMedia and .wmv video at the university. I've been > using KMplayer now, but it's missing some features that I'd like. Can > anyone recommend a player that can slow down and speed up videos? (2x > speed, 8x speed, 1/2 speed, etc...) > > Thanks. > > Dotan Cohen > > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ubuntu.html > http://lyricslist.com/ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 17:57:33 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:57:33 +0200 Subject: Media player recommendation In-Reply-To: <836caaeb0610191041m65453946scb937e75bb8e51a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610190729x4e45aa54o7f2b1e5317679d61@mail.gmail.com> <836caaeb0610191041m65453946scb937e75bb8e51a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610191057s7853942bk581ef3556f4b9524@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/06, .:M4y3.c0:. wrote: > vlc is the king > > MY I agree that VLC is great, but it won't: 1) won't play these realmedia files 2) let me adjust the playback speed. No, I just found the real king: mplayer in graphical form, Gmplayer. Same keyboard shortcuts as Mplayer, which means that I have total control over playback (and subtitles). Wish I knew about Gmplayer earlier. Dotan Cohen http://hohah.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html From maye.co at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 18:06:16 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (.:M4y3.c0:.) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:06:16 -0500 Subject: Media player recommendation In-Reply-To: <880dece00610191057s7853942bk581ef3556f4b9524@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610190729x4e45aa54o7f2b1e5317679d61@mail.gmail.com> <836caaeb0610191041m65453946scb937e75bb8e51a8@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610191057s7853942bk581ef3556f4b9524@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <836caaeb0610191106r59a1cb1ax3d079585f804b3e1@mail.gmail.com> does anybody know the new media player SongBird http://www.songbirdnest.com/ is really nice MY On 10/19/06, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 19/10/06, .:M4y3.c0:. wrote: > > vlc is the king > > > > MY > > I agree that VLC is great, but it won't: > 1) won't play these realmedia files > 2) let me adjust the playback speed. > > No, I just found the real king: mplayer in graphical form, Gmplayer. > Same keyboard shortcuts as Mplayer, which means that I have total > control over playback (and subtitles). Wish I knew about Gmplayer > earlier. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://hohah.com > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 18:41:20 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:41:20 +0200 Subject: Media player recommendation In-Reply-To: <836caaeb0610191106r59a1cb1ax3d079585f804b3e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610190729x4e45aa54o7f2b1e5317679d61@mail.gmail.com> <836caaeb0610191041m65453946scb937e75bb8e51a8@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610191057s7853942bk581ef3556f4b9524@mail.gmail.com> <836caaeb0610191106r59a1cb1ax3d079585f804b3e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610191141s519e814p95837b668f503a4e@mail.gmail.com> On 19/10/06, .:M4y3.c0:. wrote: > does anybody know the new media player SongBird > http://www.songbirdnest.com/ > is really nice > MY The mozilla based player? It's audio, not video. That website has a horrible mix of Standard, American, and ISO date formats. I see October 2006 noted as: 2006/10/xx 10/xx/2006 xx/10/2006 in different places. What a mess. Anyway, it doesn't seem to add anything that Amarok doesn't do for me, so I think that I'll stick to Amarok for music. Dotan Cohen http://rorot.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/copyleft.html From roger at rogerchrisman.com Thu Oct 19 23:05:53 2006 From: roger at rogerchrisman.com (Roger Chrisman) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:05:53 -0700 Subject: Kmail and bogifilter catching legit email In-Reply-To: <200610191500.17731.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610191500.17731.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610191605.53711.roger@rogerchrisman.com> Richard Howes wrote: > Hi All, > > I decided to give bogofilter in kmail a go again because of the > increase in SPAM I am getting. Working better than last time I used > it but I am still getting a lot of false positives. > > We use spamassassin on our mail server so I am only trying to catch > stuff that gets through. Most of the false positives are getting 100% > spam score on bogofilter and -5% on spamassassin. > > Anyone using bogofilter successfully? I use Bogofilter successfully on Kubuntu Dapper (and did on earlier Kubuntu's, too). I did have trouble once when a *false positive* got sent to my *Spam_examples* folder and threw off Bogofilter next time I rebuild the bogofilter database, snowballing the false positives. So now I keep *Spam_examples* folder separate from the *Spam* folder. I have Bogofilter throw spam into the *Spam* folder and only I, when spam slips through, move spam into the *Spam_examples* folder. This works better. Of course, I also have a *Ham_examples* folder where I put lots of mail that I want Bogofilter to know is stuff I want, especially I put all false positives there. Bogofilter stops about 80% of my spam and I rarely get a false positive. Here is my mkBogoBD script that I use to update Bogofilter's database by running it about once a week (once a day would be better but I'm lazy and haven't setup cronjob for it): ------------------------------------------ # mkBogoDB.sh # # See: #http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/quem_somos/linux/mini_how_to_kmail_and_bogofilter # (heading 3/4 down the page, Building database) # # remove old Bogofilter database if there is an old one: test -f ~/.bogofilter/wordlist.db && rm ~/.bogofilter/wordlist.db # make new Bogofilter database: find ~/Mail/Spam_examples -type f | /usr/bin/bogofilter -vvv -s -b \ && find ~/Mail/Ham_examples -type f | /usr/bin/bogofilte r -vvv -n -b ------------------------------------------- And in Kmail's Settings > Create filters, and *in this order* may last two filters trigger Bogofiltering: Next to last filter -------------------------- (*) match any of the following matches regular expr: .* <---dot + asterisk Remove header: X-Bogosity Remove header: X-Attachments Pipe through: /usr/bin/bogofilter -epv Last filter -------------------- (*) match all of the following X-Bogosity matches regular expr: ^Spam, Remove header: X-Bogosity Remove header: X-Attachments Move into folder: Local Folders/Spam NB: Never let Bogofilter populate your Spam_examples dir. If you do, false positives will quickly compound when you remake the bogofilter database. For more help, try: http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/quem_somos/linux/mini_how_to_kmail_and_bogofilter Good luck! Roger From lists at wordit.com Fri Oct 20 04:30:10 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 06:30:10 +0200 Subject: Kate: spell check, HTMLtidy In-Reply-To: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610200630.10500.lists@wordit.com> On Thursday 19 October 2006 19:16, Dotan Cohen wrote: > In the options for Kate, I do not see where I can choose a spellcheck > engine. Can someone verify that this does in fact exist in the > current version of Kate (2.5.5)? It's working in Kate 2.5.2 on Dapper. When you spell check you can select the language. I guess you need to install the aspell(?) dictionary first. I would like to know where KDE gets the language info from. I kept searching in Kate, but it just worked. I must have set it somewhere because my dictionary is different to the region settings. Marcus From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Oct 19 13:18:27 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:18:27 +0100 Subject: Q: sshfs In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610190606y40daaa0bg959d283514e7b9d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610190606y40daaa0bg959d283514e7b9d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45377B23.3020201@blueyonder.co.uk> D. R. Evans wrote: > Another in my series of "this worked in Mdv but I can't get it to work > in Kubuntu" issues :-( > > What do I need to do to get sshfs to work? > > I have installed sshfs (and fuse). > > [H:arris] sshfs modeler at modeler.arrisi.com: /home/n7dr/remote/arris/modeler > modeler at modeler.arrisi.com's password: > fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory > [H:arris] ls -al /dev/fuse > ls: /dev/fuse: No such file or directory > [H:arris] > > The sshfs command above ought to work. What am I missing? It looks > like it's some fundamental problem with fuse??? > > I had this too, it seems that the post-install script doesn't load the fuse module (fixed in edgy). You can do it yourself with: $ sudo modprobe fuse then /dev/fuse will be created. If it isn't there after a restart you can add the line: fuse to /etc/modules and it will load on boot then. Tez From andreas.otto at dkd.de Thu Oct 19 05:56:15 2006 From: andreas.otto at dkd.de (Andreas Otto) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:56:15 +0200 Subject: Signatures in KMail References: <200610180250.50289.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <200610181735.21355.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <2356220.RfKX6G4XpR@www.dkd.de> Hi Frode, Frode M. Døving wrote: > You can do this with a shell-script. > You can use for example: > echo -n "so, this is my uptime: " > uptime > echo -n "and here is a fortune: " > fortune You can put your commands aboce all in one line and separate them with ";". E. g. : echo -n "so, this is my uptime: ";uptime;echo -n "and here is a fortune: ";fortune Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Otto d.k.d Internet Service GmbH Kaiserstraße 79 60329 Frankfurt / Main Fon: +49 69 43056170 Fax: +49 69 43056190 Mail: andreas.otto at dkd.de Home: www.dkd.de From frode at ubuntu.com Fri Oct 20 15:07:04 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B8ving?=) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:07:04 +0200 Subject: Signatures in KMail In-Reply-To: <2356220.RfKX6G4XpR@www.dkd.de> References: <200610180250.50289.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <200610181735.21355.frode@ubuntu.com> <2356220.RfKX6G4XpR@www.dkd.de> Message-ID: <200610201707.04803.frode@ubuntu.com> Hi Andreas. Torsdag 19 oktober 2006 07:56, skrev Andreas Otto: > You can put your commands aboce all in one line and separate them with ";". [cut] Having all commands in a long list separated by ; isn't always easy to read. I often prefer using multiple lines. - Frode From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Fri Oct 20 15:44:10 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:44:10 -0400 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610182140.59888.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> <200610182006.44754.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <4536ED66.3010405@bellsouth.net> <200610182140.59888.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4538EECA.2090105@bellsouth.net> Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 20:13, Steven Pasternak wrote: > >> Rob Blomquist wrote: >> > > >> I rebooted before I sent the message. I know it isn't cups/the printer >> because I installed kword and printed it out a minute ago (it's due >> tomorrow!). It seems to be OOo, so what should I do? >> > > Yikes! With that dead line, I would copy/paste my document into KWord, and > crank it out! Then print it out there. > > Good luck! > > Good grief. > > Rob > > Luckily, Kword reads .odt files, so I got it in. It still bugs me that OOo just stopped working. -Steven From brymelvin at melvinart.com Fri Oct 20 17:18:18 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <4538EECA.2090105@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20061020171818.80005.qmail@web33513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Steven Pasternak wrote: Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Wednesday 18 October 2006 20:13, Steven Pasternak wrote: > >> Rob Blomquist wrote: >> > > >> I rebooted before I sent the message. I know it isn't cups/the printer >> because I installed kword and printed it out a minute ago (it's due >> tomorrow!). It seems to be OOo, so what should I do? >> > > Yikes! With that dead line, I would copy/paste my document into KWord, and > crank it out! Then print it out there. > > Good luck! > > Good grief. > > Rob > > Luckily, Kword reads .odt files, so I got it in. It still bugs me that OOo just stopped working. -Steven -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users This is an Ubuntu bug? If it it you could probably install the Generic version from OO.org, I have done that on the computer that I use fro writing etc in OOorg, I'm still using breezy on that one.But it should be OK in Dapper. If you want to revert to the repository version in your Dapper when it's fixed, just put the generic in your home directory. Bryann -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 17:20:22 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:20:22 +0200 Subject: Kate: spell check, HTMLtidy In-Reply-To: <200610200630.10500.lists@wordit.com> References: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> <200610200630.10500.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610201020i192f49ecx7c13e6132fd0d883@mail.gmail.com> On 20/10/06, marcus wrote: > On Thursday 19 October 2006 19:16, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > In the options for Kate, I do not see where I can choose a spellcheck > > engine. Can someone verify that this does in fact exist in the > > current version of Kate (2.5.5)? > > It's working in Kate 2.5.2 on Dapper. When you spell check you can > select the language. I guess you need to install the aspell(?) > dictionary first. dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install aspell Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done aspell is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded. > I would like to know where KDE gets the language info from. I kept > searching in Kate, but it just worked. I must have set it somewhere > because my dictionary is different to the region settings. > Also, regarding Tidy: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install tidy Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done tidy is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded. Dotan Cohen http://dugry.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bluetooth.html From aikurn at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 19:28:43 2006 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:28:43 +0200 Subject: Kate: spell check, HTMLtidy In-Reply-To: <880dece00610201020i192f49ecx7c13e6132fd0d883@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> <200610200630.10500.lists@wordit.com> <880dece00610201020i192f49ecx7c13e6132fd0d883@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 20/10/06, marcus wrote: > I would like to know where KDE gets the language info from. You can configure your spellchecker from: - KControl -> KDE Components -> Spellchecker. - Edgy's System Settings -> Local and language -> Spellchecker. This names may vary as I use a localized version. Leticia From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 23:22:37 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:22:37 +0200 Subject: Kate: spell check, HTMLtidy In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> <200610200630.10500.lists@wordit.com> <880dece00610201020i192f49ecx7c13e6132fd0d883@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610201622o7e349da6y8877e6ffc9179745@mail.gmail.com> On 20/10/06, Leticia Hernández wrote: > On 20/10/06, marcus wrote: > > I would like to know where KDE gets the language info from. > > You can configure your spellchecker from: > - KControl -> KDE Components -> Spellchecker. > - Edgy's System Settings -> Local and language -> Spellchecker. > > This names may vary as I use a localized version. > > Leticia > Thanks. I made sure that it reads: Dictionary: English Encoding: UTF-8 Client: Aspell However, Kate insists that it cannot run the spell check program. Kate tells me to check that the spell check program is installed correctly, and that it is in my path. I believe that aspell is in my path: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ aspell Usage: aspell [options] is one of: -?|usage display a brief usage message help display a detailed help message -c|check to check a file -a|pipe "ispell -a" compatibility mode [dump] config dumps the current configuration to stdout config prints the current value of an option [dump] dicts | filters | modes lists available dictionaries / filters / filter modes [options] is any of the following: --encoding= encoding to expect data to be in --mode= filter mode -l,--lang= language code -d,--master= base name of the main dictionary to use --sug-mode= suggestion mode So, why won't Kate use it? Dotan Cohen http://olnu.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html From lists at wordit.com Fri Oct 20 23:47:46 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:47:46 +0200 Subject: Kate: spell check, HTMLtidy In-Reply-To: <880dece00610201622o7e349da6y8877e6ffc9179745@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610201622o7e349da6y8877e6ffc9179745@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610210147.47461.lists@wordit.com> On Saturday 21 October 2006 01:22, Dotan Cohen wrote: > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ aspell What's installed? Try: dpkg -l | grep aspell It should list both aspell, libs, and dictionaries. I also have libaspell15 installed, the run-time library. You will need aspell-en, the English dictionary. So: aspell aspell-en libaspell15 Marcus From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Sat Oct 21 03:25:20 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:25:20 -0700 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <4538EECA.2090105@bellsouth.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> <200610182140.59888.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <4538EECA.2090105@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200610202025.20389.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> > Luckily, Kword reads .odt files, so I got it in. It still bugs me that > OOo just stopped working. Before I gave up, I would uninstall it completely, and reinstall it. Maybe the install gliched, or something got misconfigured. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From hawkwind at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 03:34:07 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Hawkwind) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:34:07 -0500 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610202025.20389.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> <200610182140.59888.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <4538EECA.2090105@bellsouth.net> <200610202025.20389.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 10/20/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > > > Luckily, Kword reads .odt files, so I got it in. It still bugs me that > > OOo just stopped working. > > Before I gave up, I would uninstall it completely, and reinstall it. Maybe > the > install gliched, or something got misconfigured. > > Rob Have you tried printing with a KDE app then tried printing with OOo again ? This seems to be mentioned quite a bit on the IRC channels and that seems to fix the problem. Just something worth trying. -- > Mountlake Terrace, WA > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at wordit.com Sat Oct 21 04:22:32 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:22:32 +0200 Subject: OOo Refuses to print in Dapper In-Reply-To: References: <4536DCA0.5000400@bellsouth.net> <200610202025.20389.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200610210622.32551.lists@wordit.com> On Saturday 21 October 2006 05:34, Hawkwind wrote: > Have you tried printing with a KDE app then tried printing with OOo > again ? This seems to be mentioned quite a bit on the IRC channels > and that seems to fix the problem. Just something worth trying. Yes, remember that OOo is not a KDE/Qt app. Sometimes printing is not configured properly for GTK+ apps. (I think OOo uses GTK+ ?) Example: I had to add my printer name so that Acrobat would print at all, which became "/dev/name -Pxyz" in the print dialog box. Where xyz is the CUPS printer name. Fortunately that setting is remembered. So try printing with some other GTK+/Gnome apps. That may configure things for OOo to use as well. Just a guess, but worth a try. Marcus From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 10:03:15 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:03:15 +0200 Subject: cannot install programs Message-ID: <930775c20610210303i74bbd6f7of7d500852e184f8@mail.gmail.com> When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me always an answer that the command make or another command I tried, doesn't exist. When I try this with LiveCD of Knoppix, it works. I tried to install the following: http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to work. Attention: you cannnot use the basic commands to install this, you need to run the commands you find in the readme file! And you will need the following information of my computer if you try it: rt2500usb. And something else: installing NeroLinux doesn't work either. I tried both RPM- and DEB-files. My serial works, because it works on Knoppix. Why can't I install programs? Sam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bg.branko at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 11:53:07 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:53:07 +0200 Subject: KWalletManager icon?! Message-ID: <200610211353.07590.bg.branko@gmail.com> Hi, ppl! I have installed Ubuntu Dapper LTS and converted it into Kubuntu by first selecting kubuntu-desktop in aptitude, and then removing things I didn't want. Now, Kubuntu itself works just fine. Boots up like it should and all apps work as usual. (Why I installed Kubuntu this way is because I didn't want to download the Kubuntu iso, and I already had Ubuntu on a CD.) Currently, I have KDE 3.5.4 from official Kubuntu repos, and a problem. I installed KWallet Manager. It works but the icon doesn't show in the system tray. Starting it from the terminal shows no errors and everything seems to work. I do get to enter the master password and all my passwords are stored in the wallet, but I can't access the wallet themselves nor can I see if kwalletmanager is running or not... How do I fix this? TIA B From daniel at rimspace.net Sat Oct 21 11:42:56 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:42:56 +1000 Subject: cannot install programs References: <930775c20610210303i74bbd6f7of7d500852e184f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87y7r9ki7z.fsf@rimspace.net> Sam writes: > When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me always an > answer that the command make or another command I tried, doesn't > exist. Well, that would probably be because they are not installed on the computer. The tools to build C software are not part of the basic installation of Ubuntu because they are relatively specialized. What you want to do is install the appropriate packages. For 'make' the package is, er, 'make.' For everything else you can search for an appropriate package by using the "search the content of packages" option at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find which packages you need to install. However: > I tried to install the following: > > http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. > It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to work. This is really not the best way to achieve your results. Ubuntu ship the rt2500 driver source as an appropriate package, so the best way to get it compiled would be to install the 'module-assistant' package. Then, run 'sudo m-a' in a shell and follow the prompts to have it install the software needed to compile drivers, then build and install the rt2500 driver for you. That should require significantly less effort than trying to build software by hand. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 10:16:43 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:16:43 +0200 Subject: Kate: spell check, HTMLtidy In-Reply-To: <200610210147.47461.lists@wordit.com> References: <880dece00610191016xe019533o8ce6045f4d8ad420@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00610201622o7e349da6y8877e6ffc9179745@mail.gmail.com> <200610210147.47461.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610210316y77505c97x3932871a456e0334@mail.gmail.com> On 21/10/06, marcus wrote: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 01:22, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ aspell > > What's installed? Try: > > dpkg -l | grep aspell > > It should list both aspell, libs, and dictionaries. I also have > libaspell15 installed, the run-time library. You will need aspell-en, > the English dictionary. > > So: > > aspell > aspell-en > libaspell15 > > > Marcus Thanks, Marcus. Looks good from that perspective: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l | grep aspell ii aspell 0.60.4-2 GNU Aspell spell-checker ii aspell-en 6.0-0-5 English dictionary for GNU Aspell ii libaspell-dev 0.60.4-2 Development files for applications with GNU ii libaspell15 0.60.4-2 GNU Aspell spell-checker runtime library dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ Dotan Cohen http://easy-answers.info http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xml.html From nicolas.ouellette at sympatico.ca Sat Oct 21 12:15:33 2006 From: nicolas.ouellette at sympatico.ca (Nicolas Ouellette) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:15:33 -0400 Subject: Edgy, xine & .avi Message-ID: <200610210815.41050.nicolas.ouellette@sympatico.ca> Hi. Yesterday I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy RC1. Everything went fine, but I only have one problem: xine cannot read .avi files anymore. The error message is (translated from french) : The flux "myfile.avi" uses an unsupported codec: Video codec : DivX5 (DX50). Read anyway? Since I was able to read those avi files on Dapper, that all packages were upgraded to Edgy at the same time, and that Mplayer will read avi correctly, I presume the problem comes from xine itself. Any way around this? Anyone had this problem? Many thanks, -- Nicolas Ouellette Étudiant au M.A, philosophie Registered linux user #368073 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 12:35:13 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:35:13 -0500 Subject: OOo 2.0.4 Message-ID: <200610210735.13189.dhcolesj@gmail.com> I noticed today, sometime after 2.0.4 was released that in Dapper I'm still running 2.0.2! Are there any plans on updating OpenOffice.org to the latest version for dapper that anyone knows of, or am I missing something? I have universe restricted main etc. etc. all the *verses enabled including backports. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From liz at kandew.com Sat Oct 21 13:01:53 2006 From: liz at kandew.com (Liz Young) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 06:01:53 -0700 Subject: KWalletManager icon?! In-Reply-To: <200610211353.07590.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610211353.07590.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610210601.53681.liz@kandew.com> Hi Branko, On Saturday 21 October 2006 04:53, Branko Vukelic wrote: > I installed KWallet Manager. It works but the icon doesn't show in > the system tray. Starting it from the terminal shows no errors and > everything seems to work. I do get to enter the master password and > all my passwords are stored in the wallet, but I can't access the > wallet themselves nor can I see if kwalletmanager is running or > not... How do I fix this? I noticed the same problem in 3.5.3 and .4. It's now fixed in 3.5.5. The patch is listed here, I think: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129161 To work around it, I would open a web page with some cached info so the wallet would appear on the status bar. Clicking on it would bring up an empty wallet. Closing and reopening it finally gave me access to my passwords. Sort of inconvenient, but it worked. -Liz From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sat Oct 21 14:25:40 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:25:40 -0400 Subject: microphone =?ISO-8859-1?Q?n=E3o_anda=2C_doesn=B4t_doesn=B4?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?t?= Message-ID: <453A2DE4.1010200@optonline.net> Kubuntu Dapper. Full duplex sound mode. Microphone doesn´t work (não anda). Tudo está igual que num install anterior de Fedora, em que o microfone funcionou. Agradeço sua atenção. Everything is the same as previous Fedora install on same machine, in which the microphone worked. Thanks in advance. Crossposted to UbuntuBR and Kubuntu Users. tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 13:51:39 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:51:39 +0200 Subject: Splitting view in Kspread Message-ID: <880dece00610210651m3bb17685g92fc2f58ca1645a8@mail.gmail.com> How would one split the view in Kspread? Such that the A column and the 1 row would allways show, no matter which cell I happened to be viewing? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://dugry.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/html.html From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Oct 21 17:55:41 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:55:41 +0200 Subject: Can't read K3b burned [backup] DVD Message-ID: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> I just burned a Teac DVD+R x16 RW with all my important files as a backup - trouble is I can't get it to mount. It doesn't auto-mount and other DVD's that I have made in the same way, albeit from Philips, do auto-mount. I also can't mount it manually: nigel at nigels:~$ mount /media/cdrom0 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so nigel at nigels:~$ dmesg | tail [520933.268395] hda: rw=0, want=1252, limit=4 [520933.268464] attempt to access beyond end of device [520933.268540] hda: rw=0, want=1028, limit=4 [520933.268604] UDF-fs: No partition found (1) [520938.294802] hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } [520938.294808] ide: failed opcode was: unknown [520938.342729] hda: ATAPI reset complete [520938.360197] attempt to access beyond end of device [520938.360281] hda: rw=0, want=68, limit=4 [520938.360344] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hda, iso_blknum=16, block=16 nigel at nigels:~$ Is it a coaster? Is the problem Teac? Is there another option? TIA Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 18:43:51 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:43:51 +0200 Subject: Removing mouse cursor when composing text Message-ID: <880dece00610211143i2f7db286l6ed3275c0ba96bc1@mail.gmail.com> How does one tell KDE to remove the visible mouse cursor when composing text? I often find that the mouse cursor obscures exactly the part that I'm trying to read. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/virus.html From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 21 18:53:37 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <930775c20610210303i74bbd6f7of7d500852e184f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061021185337.79427.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Sam wrote: > When I try to install a program, the Konsole always > give me always an answer > that the command make or another command I tried, > doesn't exist. When I try > this with LiveCD of Knoppix, it works. I tried to > install the following: > http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. > It's a > driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to > work. Attention: you > cannnot use the basic commands to install this, you > need to run the commands > you find in the readme file! And you will need the > following information of > my computer if you try it: rt2500usb. And something > else: installing > NeroLinux doesn't work either. I tried both RPM- and > DEB-files. My serial > works, because it works on Knoppix. Why can't I > install programs? > > Sam > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > have you tried using " ./ " before the command /package? ./ or use the full path will tell the computer where it is... so source install would start with you in the source directory then ./configure then make then sudo make install. to install a *.deb you should use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb often downloaded packages/script will need execute permissions set prior trying to run them Dapper default install SHOULD allow you to install a deb by clicking on it in the GUI From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 21 19:06:12 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OOo 2.0.4 In-Reply-To: <200610210735.13189.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061021190612.2941.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Howard Coles Jr." wrote: > I noticed today, sometime after 2.0.4 was released > that in Dapper I'm still > running 2.0.2! > > Are there any plans on updating OpenOffice.org to > the latest version for > dapper that anyone knows of, or am I missing > something? > > I have universe restricted main etc. etc. all the > *verses enabled including > backports. > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users .04 is a minor but significant release. There are some major changes and bug fixes. the changes are listed here http://development.openoffice.org/releases/2.0.4.html > If you're work is not affected by any of these items you wouldn't gain much of anything. Possibly none of the bugs affect dapper ..don't know didn't read them all. You CAN install open office from the pacakages at OO.org but it's a little bit of work. As Dapper is long term support version I believe we'll see newer versions in Backports and/or security fixes, however I don't know if they plan a 2.04 release. Bryann From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Sat Oct 21 20:42:21 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 13:42:21 -0700 Subject: Can't read K3b burned [backup] DVD In-Reply-To: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> References: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610211342.21336.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:55, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just burned a Teac DVD+R x16 RW with all my important files as a > backup - trouble is I can't get it to mount. It doesn't auto-mount and > other DVD's that I have made in the same way, albeit from Philips, do > auto-mount. > I also can't mount it manually: With K3B under Ubuntu, I have burned several coasters recently with my CDRW drive. I can't think of another distro that I have ever had a coaster burn. My CDs are not getting finalized properly, and K3B is warning me of the problem, and asking that I burn a new one. Are you getting the same message, or are you like me, and don't look all that often. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 21:09:36 2006 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Lord Sauron) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:09:36 -0700 Subject: Can't read K3b burned [backup] DVD In-Reply-To: <200610211342.21336.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> <200610211342.21336.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: On 10/21/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:55, Nigel Ridley wrote: > > I just burned a Teac DVD+R x16 RW with all my important files as a > > backup - trouble is I can't get it to mount. It doesn't auto-mount and > > other DVD's that I have made in the same way, albeit from Philips, do > > auto-mount. > > I also can't mount it manually: > > With K3B under Ubuntu, I have burned several coasters recently with my CDRW > drive. I can't think of another distro that I have ever had a coaster burn. > > My CDs are not getting finalized properly, and K3B is warning me of the > problem, and asking that I burn a new one. Are you getting the same message, > or are you like me, and don't look all that often. Be sure that you have K3B verify the written data. I've found that saves a lot of time. Also, I don't think that you're tring to mount it correctly. I think that /etc/fstab should read it as being mounted as a partition type of "auto." This should cover all the formats (udf, iso9660, etc) If that doesn't solve it, then my bag of tricks is officially empty. At that point I'd declare it a decorative item and get on with life. -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y ========= END GCv3.12 ======== From bg.branko at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 23:14:09 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:14:09 +0200 Subject: KWalletManager icon?! In-Reply-To: <200610210601.53681.liz@kandew.com> References: <200610211353.07590.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610210601.53681.liz@kandew.com> Message-ID: <200610220114.09983.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Saturday 21 October 2006. 15:01, Liz Young wrote: > To work around it, I would open a web page with some cached info so the > wallet would appear on the status bar. Clicking on it would bring up an > empty wallet. Closing and reopening it finally gave me access to my > passwords. Sort of inconvenient, but it worked. Yeah, it does sound like a lot of work. I will look into it. Thanks for the input. B From bg.branko at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 23:25:42 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:25:42 +0200 Subject: Can't read K3b burned [backup] DVD In-Reply-To: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> References: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610220125.42269.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Saturday 21 October 2006. 19:55, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Is it a coaster? Is the problem Teac? Is there another option? > > TIA > > Nigel Nigel, I don't know if it's the same problem as the one I had... You kind of reminded me of what I had experienced. I couldn't get the ASUS DVD+/-RW drive to write DVDs. It turned out that the drive itself was broken and replacing it fixed the prob. I almost hated Linux back then. Turns out it was the drive's fault. ;) If you can write (at present, that is) under other distros, then it's Kubuntu (not so likely, tho, since many people seem to be able to burn without problems). Otherwise, I'd get me a new drive. If you want to see if the drive can burn under other distros, and don't have one installed, try Puppy Linux or somesuch small LiveCD distro that supports running completely in RAM (so you can eject the CD). From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Sun Oct 22 01:55:20 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:55:20 -0700 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <20061021185337.79427.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061021185337.79427.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610211855.20711.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Saturday 21 October 2006 11:53, Bry Melvin wrote: > you should use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb I highly recommend that you install with "sudo apt-get install packagename.deb, as that will check the dependancies. I recently was in dependancy hell with installing mindawn via dpkg, and I will not do that again. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Sun Oct 22 02:06:05 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:06:05 -0700 Subject: Splitting view in Kspread In-Reply-To: <880dece00610210651m3bb17685g92fc2f58ca1645a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610210651m3bb17685g92fc2f58ca1645a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610211906.06044.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Saturday 21 October 2006 06:51, Dotan Cohen wrote: > How would one split the view in Kspread? Such that the A column and > the 1 row would allways show, no matter which cell I happened to be > viewing? I wouldn't use Kspread, I would use OpenOffice Calc. Kspread is not all that good IMHO, and it can be buggy and primitive. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Oct 22 05:47:14 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:47:14 +1000 Subject: cannot install programs References: <20061021185337.79427.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610211855.20711.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <87irickil9.fsf@rimspace.net> Rob Blomquist writes: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 11:53, Bry Melvin wrote: > >> you should use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb > > I highly recommend that you install with "sudo apt-get install > packagename.deb, as that will check the dependancies. Er, no. apt-get has no capability to install .deb package files; it is only able to fetch them from a remote repository and install them. Using apt-get to install packages is great, but if you have it downloaded already it doesn't help much. Which, I admit, sucks. :) Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Oct 22 07:09:28 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:09:28 +0100 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <87irickil9.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <20061021185337.79427.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610211855.20711.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <87irickil9.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <453B1928.4030904@blueyonder.co.uk> Daniel Pittman wrote: > Rob Blomquist writes: > >> On Saturday 21 October 2006 11:53, Bry Melvin wrote: >> >> >>> you should use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb >>> >> I highly recommend that you install with "sudo apt-get install >> packagename.deb, as that will check the dependancies. >> > > Er, no. apt-get has no capability to install .deb package files; it is > only able to fetch them from a remote repository and install them. > > Using apt-get to install packages is great, but if you have it > downloaded already it doesn't help much. Which, I admit, sucks. :) > > Regards, > Daniel > When you install with "dpkg -i packagename.deb" and there are dependency problems, you can use the command "apt-get -f install" to get apt to check the repository's for them then download and install them. Tez From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 07:27:30 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:27:30 +0200 Subject: Splitting view in Kspread In-Reply-To: <200610211906.06044.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610210651m3bb17685g92fc2f58ca1645a8@mail.gmail.com> <200610211906.06044.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610220027r212e10b9x517c8f7f8a9d03fb@mail.gmail.com> On 22/10/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 06:51, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > How would one split the view in Kspread? Such that the A column and > > the 1 row would allways show, no matter which cell I happened to be > > viewing? > > I wouldn't use Kspread, I would use OpenOffice Calc. Kspread is not all that > good IMHO, and it can be buggy and primitive. > > Rob Kspread is much lighter than calc, which brings this machine to a crawl. Also, OOo applications do not display properly on this machine as they are GTK based and I have GTK set to mimick QT- which another application of mine requires. Other GTK app display fine. Dotan Cohen http://hohah.com http://what-is-what.com/what_is/google.html From brymelvin at yahoo.com Sun Oct 22 08:49:28 2006 From: brymelvin at yahoo.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: cannot install programs Message-ID: <20061022084928.25672.qmail@web33512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bry Melvin wrote: > > > --- Rob Blomquist wrote: > > > On Saturday 21 October 2006 11:53, Bry Melvin > wrote: > > > > > you should use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb > > > > I highly recommend that you install with "sudo > > apt-get install > > packagename.deb, as that will check the > > dependancies. > > > > I recently was in dependancy hell with installing > > mindawn via dpkg, and I will > > not do that again. > > > > Rob > > > > -- > > Mountlake Terrace, WA > > > The original question mentioned not installing > nerolinux. > > apt , or its front ends Synaptice etc are not going > to > install something unless it is present in > repositories, > > To install nerolinux one would download the file and > use dpkg from the command line to install it. > OR > Someone went to a bit of trouble with Dapper (Gdebi) > to add a utility so that you could click on the file > such as nerolinuxxx.deb and have it install. That > utility also checks dependencies. > > FWIW I think as Dektop Linux matures we should stear > away from using command line tools and tell people > to > use GUI tools as they become available. > > Apt get is great works well ... but people are doing > a > lot of work bulding and perfecting Kpkg Synaptic > Adept > Gdebi etc. We probably should be directing people > toward those GUI utilities first. > > However if you look at the instructions for > Nerolinux.deb files from Nero you will see I was > paraphrasing the installation instructions. > > As commercial apps start becoming more available we > need to stick to the Vendors instructions unless > they > don't work at all. If Vendor X says to install it a > particular way, and someone pays fro the > software/support. The FIRST thing the support person > reading a script would do is to verify that the > program was installed IAW the instructions given. > > > > > > Bryann > From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 09:05:27 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:05:27 +0200 Subject: cannot install programs Message-ID: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> I'll give it a try, will this work without a connection to the internet? I'll run the following commands: apt-get install make and apt-get install module-assistant. Thanks for your help, Sam From: Daniel Pittman To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:42:56 +1000 Subject: Re: cannot install programs Sam writes: > When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me always an > answer that the command make or another command I tried, doesn't > exist. Well, that would probably be because they are not installed on the computer. The tools to build C software are not part of the basic installation of Ubuntu because they are relatively specialized. What you want to do is install the appropriate packages. For 'make' the package is, er, 'make.' For everything else you can search for an appropriate package by using the "search the content of packages" option at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find which packages you need to install. However: > I tried to install the following: > > http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. > It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to work. This is really not the best way to achieve your results. Ubuntu ship the rt2500 driver source as an appropriate package, so the best way to get it compiled would be to install the 'module-assistant' package. Then, run 'sudo m-a' in a shell and follow the prompts to have it install the software needed to compile drivers, then build and install the rt2500 driver for you. That should require significantly less effort than trying to build software by hand. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 09:11:42 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:11:42 +0200 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453B35CE.6020000@gmail.com> Just a short one; you definitely must be connected to run these commands as they pick up from the internet repositories and not from your disk or a CD sinclair Sam wrote: > I'll give it a try, will this work without a connection to the internet? > I'll run the following commands: apt-get install make and apt-get > install module-assistant. > > Thanks for your help, > > > Sam > > > > From: Daniel Pittman > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:42:56 +1000 > Subject: Re: cannot install programs > Sam > writes: > >> When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me always an >> answer that the command make or another command I tried, doesn't >> exist. > > Well, that would probably be because they are not installed on the > computer. The tools to build C software are not part of the basic > installation of Ubuntu because they are relatively specialized. > > What you want to do is install the appropriate packages. For 'make' the > package is, er, 'make.' > > For everything else you can search for an appropriate package by using > the "search the content of packages" option at > http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find which packages you need to install. > > However: > >> I tried to install the following: >> >> http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. >> It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to work. > > This is really not the best way to achieve your results. Ubuntu ship > the rt2500 driver source as an appropriate package, so the best way to > get it compiled would be to install the 'module-assistant' package. > > Then, run 'sudo m-a' in a shell and follow the prompts to have it > install the software needed to compile drivers, then build and install > the rt2500 driver for you. > > That should require significantly less effort than trying to build > software by hand. > > Regards, > Daniel > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ > From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 09:42:03 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:42:03 +0200 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <453B35CE.6020000@gmail.com> References: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> <453B35CE.6020000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <930775c20610220242l7a289c58q9d0918f91490aef0@mail.gmail.com> So it wont work because the file I want to install is the driver and utility for my usb-wlan-stick. I can only connect my computer to the internet when this tarball is installed. Sam 2006/10/22, O. Sinclair : > > Just a short one; you definitely must be connected to run these commands > as they pick up from the internet repositories and not from your disk or > a CD > > sinclair > > Sam wrote: > > I'll give it a try, will this work without a connection to the internet? > > I'll run the following commands: apt-get install make and apt-get > > install module-assistant. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > From: Daniel Pittman > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:42:56 +1000 > > Subject: Re: cannot install programs > > Sam > > writes: > > > >> When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me always an > >> answer that the command make or another command I tried, doesn't > >> exist. > > > > Well, that would probably be because they are not installed on the > > computer. The tools to build C software are not part of the basic > > installation of Ubuntu because they are relatively specialized. > > > > What you want to do is install the appropriate packages. For 'make' the > > package is, er, 'make.' > > > > For everything else you can search for an appropriate package by using > > the "search the content of packages" option at > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find which packages you need to install. > > > > However: > > > >> I tried to install the following: > >> > >> http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. > >> It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to work. > > > > This is really not the best way to achieve your results. Ubuntu ship > > the rt2500 driver source as an appropriate package, so the best way to > > get it compiled would be to install the 'module-assistant' package. > > > > Then, run 'sudo m-a' in a shell and follow the prompts to have it > > install the software needed to compile drivers, then build and install > > the rt2500 driver for you. > > > > That should require significantly less effort than trying to build > > software by hand. > > > > Regards, > > Daniel > > -- > > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > > > > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Oct 22 10:17:36 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:17:36 +0200 Subject: Can't read K3b burned [backup] DVD In-Reply-To: References: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> <200610211342.21336.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <453B4540.2040703@rmk.co.il> Lord Sauron wrote: > On 10/21/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: >> On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:55, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> I just burned a Teac DVD+R x16 RW with all my important files as a >>> backup - trouble is I can't get it to mount. It doesn't auto-mount and >>> other DVD's that I have made in the same way, albeit from Philips, do >>> auto-mount. >>> I also can't mount it manually: >> With K3B under Ubuntu, I have burned several coasters recently with my CDRW >> drive. I can't think of another distro that I have ever had a coaster burn. >> >> My CDs are not getting finalized properly, and K3B is warning me of the >> problem, and asking that I burn a new one. Are you getting the same message, >> or are you like me, and don't look all that often. > > Be sure that you have K3B verify the written data. I've found that > saves a lot of time. > > Also, I don't think that you're tring to mount it correctly. I think > that /etc/fstab should read it as being mounted as a partition type of > "auto." This should cover all the formats (udf, iso9660, etc) It must be the dvd disk as other dvd's mount OK > > If that doesn't solve it, then my bag of tricks is officially empty. > At that point I'd declare it a decorative item and get on with life. > But I don't want to make more coasters - it would be nice to find out if it is Teac dvd's that is the problem Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Oct 22 12:15:19 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:15:19 +0100 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <930775c20610220242l7a289c58q9d0918f91490aef0@mail.gmail.com> References: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> <453B35CE.6020000@gmail.com> <930775c20610220242l7a289c58q9d0918f91490aef0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453B60D7.3090905@blueyonder.co.uk> You'll want the package "build-essential", not just make ("build-essential" includes make), and it should work without an internet connection as the package, as well as make, is on the install CD. Tez Sam wrote: > So it wont work because the file I want to install is the driver and > utility for my usb-wlan-stick. I can only connect my computer to the > internet when this tarball is installed. > > Sam > > > > 2006/10/22, O. Sinclair >: > > Just a short one; you definitely must be connected to run these > commands > as they pick up from the internet repositories and not from your > disk or > a CD > > sinclair > > Sam wrote: > > I'll give it a try, will this work without a connection to the > internet? > > I'll run the following commands: apt-get install make and apt-get > > install module-assistant. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > From: Daniel Pittman < daniel at rimspace.net > >> > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:42:56 +1000 > > Subject: Re: cannot install programs > > Sam < theoneandonlysam at gmail.com > > >> writes: > > > >> When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me > always an > >> answer that the command make or another command I tried, doesn't > >> exist. > > > > Well, that would probably be because they are not installed on the > > computer. The tools to build C software are not part of the basic > > installation of Ubuntu because they are relatively specialized. > > > > What you want to do is install the appropriate packages. For > 'make' the > > package is, er, 'make.' > > > > For everything else you can search for an appropriate package by > using > > the "search the content of packages" option at > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find which packages you need to > install. > > > > However: > > > >> I tried to install the following: > >> > >> http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. > >> It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to work. > > > > This is really not the best way to achieve your results. Ubuntu > ship > > the rt2500 driver source as an appropriate package, so the best > way to > > get it compiled would be to install the 'module-assistant' package. > > > > Then, run 'sudo m-a' in a shell and follow the prompts to have it > > install the software needed to compile drivers, then build and > install > > the rt2500 driver for you. > > > > That should require significantly less effort than trying to build > > software by hand. > > > > Regards, > > Daniel > > -- > From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sun Oct 22 12:48:54 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy Penguin) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 05:48:54 -0700 Subject: Can't read K3b burned [backup] DVD In-Reply-To: <453B4540.2040703@rmk.co.il> References: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> <453B4540.2040703@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610220548.54137.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Sunday 22 October 2006 03:17, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Lord Sauron wrote: > > On 10/21/06, Rob Blomquist wrote: > >> On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:55, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >>> I just burned a Teac DVD+R x16 RW with all my important files as a > >>> backup - trouble is I can't get it to mount. It doesn't auto-mount and > >>> other DVD's that I have made in the same way, albeit from Philips, do > >>> auto-mount. > >>> I also can't mount it manually: > >> > >> With K3B under Ubuntu, I have burned several coasters recently with my > >> CDRW drive. I can't think of another distro that I have ever had a > >> coaster burn. > >> > >> My CDs are not getting finalized properly, and K3B is warning me of the > >> problem, and asking that I burn a new one. Are you getting the same > >> message, or are you like me, and don't look all that often. > > > > Be sure that you have K3B verify the written data. I've found that > > saves a lot of time. > > > > Also, I don't think that you're tring to mount it correctly. I think > > that /etc/fstab should read it as being mounted as a partition type of > > "auto." This should cover all the formats (udf, iso9660, etc) > > It must be the dvd disk as other dvd's mount OK > > > If that doesn't solve it, then my bag of tricks is officially empty. > > At that point I'd declare it a decorative item and get on with life. > > But I don't want to make more coasters - it would be nice to find out if > it is Teac dvd's that is the problem blank media varies a lot as to quality even in the same lot > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > Messianic E-Cards.com > http://www.messianicecards.com/ From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Oct 22 19:07:13 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:07:13 +0200 Subject: Can't read K3b burned [backup] DVD In-Reply-To: <200610211342.21336.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <453A5F1D.4020108@rmk.co.il> <200610211342.21336.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <453BC161.8060500@rmk.co.il> Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Saturday 21 October 2006 10:55, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> I just burned a Teac DVD+R x16 RW with all my important files as a >> backup - trouble is I can't get it to mount. It doesn't auto-mount and >> other DVD's that I have made in the same way, albeit from Philips, do >> auto-mount. >> I also can't mount it manually: > > With K3B under Ubuntu, I have burned several coasters recently with my CDRW > drive. I can't think of another distro that I have ever had a coaster burn. > > My CDs are not getting finalized properly, and K3B is warning me of the > problem, and asking that I burn a new one. Are you getting the same message, > or are you like me, and don't look all that often. > > Rob > There was no warning message - I got the nice music telling me that it was successful. I tried adding 'auto' to my fstab but still no joy :-( I tried manually mounting it but I get an error message: No meduim found. Strange thing is I took it to a friend's Win xp laptop and it open it no problem showing all my files etc. What gives?? Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Oct 22 19:12:41 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:12:41 +0200 Subject: Toshset utils fan not working - edgy Message-ID: <453BC2A9.7030806@rmk.co.il> I just did a clean install of edgy on my Toshiba Satellite laptop and the toshset fan, which always worked in both breezy and dapper doesn't work in edgy. I tried to register with launchpad in order to file a bug report but keep getting an oops error message - I'll try again later. In the meantime has anyone else experienced the same thing using a Toshiba laptop? Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 19:13:23 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:13:23 +0200 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <453B60D7.3090905@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> <453B35CE.6020000@gmail.com> <930775c20610220242l7a289c58q9d0918f91490aef0@mail.gmail.com> <453B60D7.3090905@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <930775c20610221213q1c2ff3f0h6ce460c709cfc01f@mail.gmail.com> Because I was new to Linux and it was just to try it out, I changed my computer to ubuntu. But because it's the same, could you give a quick overview of the things I need to do and the commands I need to enter? Sam 2006/10/22, Tez : > > You'll want the package "build-essential", not just make > ("build-essential" includes make), and it should work without an > internet connection as the package, as well as make, is on the install CD. > > Tez > > Sam wrote: > > So it wont work because the file I want to install is the driver and > > utility for my usb-wlan-stick. I can only connect my computer to the > > internet when this tarball is installed. > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > 2006/10/22, O. Sinclair > >: > > > > Just a short one; you definitely must be connected to run these > > commands > > as they pick up from the internet repositories and not from your > > disk or > > a CD > > > > sinclair > > > > Sam wrote: > > > I'll give it a try, will this work without a connection to the > > internet? > > > I'll run the following commands: apt-get install make and apt-get > > > install module-assistant. > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Daniel Pittman < daniel at rimspace.net > > > >> > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:42:56 +1000 > > > Subject: Re: cannot install programs > > > Sam < theoneandonlysam at gmail.com > > > > > >> writes: > > > > > >> When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me > > always an > > >> answer that the command make or another command I tried, doesn't > > >> exist. > > > > > > Well, that would probably be because they are not installed on the > > > computer. The tools to build C software are not part of the basic > > > installation of Ubuntu because they are relatively specialized. > > > > > > What you want to do is install the appropriate packages. For > > 'make' the > > > package is, er, 'make.' > > > > > > For everything else you can search for an appropriate package by > > using > > > the "search the content of packages" option at > > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find which packages you need to > > install. > > > > > > However: > > > > > >> I tried to install the following: > > >> > > >> http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip > . > > >> It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to work. > > > > > > This is really not the best way to achieve your results. Ubuntu > > ship > > > the rt2500 driver source as an appropriate package, so the best > > way to > > > get it compiled would be to install the 'module-assistant' > package. > > > > > > Then, run 'sudo m-a' in a shell and follow the prompts to have it > > > install the software needed to compile drivers, then build and > > install > > > the rt2500 driver for you. > > > > > > That should require significantly less effort than trying to build > > > software by hand. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Daniel > > > -- > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Oct 22 20:03:25 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:03:25 +0200 Subject: Can't read backup dvd's under edgy Message-ID: <453BCE8D.2070900@rmk.co.il> Just did a clean install of edgy on my Toshiba laptop; updated, dist upgraded, installed all the nice codec stuff etc. but can't read my backup dvd's that I can on my dapper [main] box (the laptop used to be able to under dapper). The laptop can play dvd movies - just can't read my backup dvd's :-( my backup cd's it can read fine - just not the dvd's. Any ideas someone? Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From theoneandonlysam at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 20:35:23 2006 From: theoneandonlysam at gmail.com (Sam) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 22:35:23 +0200 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <930775c20610221213q1c2ff3f0h6ce460c709cfc01f@mail.gmail.com> References: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> <453B35CE.6020000@gmail.com> <930775c20610220242l7a289c58q9d0918f91490aef0@mail.gmail.com> <453B60D7.3090905@blueyonder.co.uk> <930775c20610221213q1c2ff3f0h6ce460c709cfc01f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <930775c20610221335n799bc11er7348481c19082950@mail.gmail.com> Ok, I installed the build-essential (Synaptic is GREAT). Just the following problem: the following directory doesn't exist and is needed for all installations: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build. What do I need to put in it? I checked the directory /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-286 and it really doesn't contain the map named build. Sam 2006/10/22, Sam : > > Because I was new to Linux and it was just to try it out, I changed my > computer to ubuntu. But because it's the same, could you give a quick > overview of the things I need to do and the commands I need to enter? > > Sam > > > > > 2006/10/22, Tez : > > > > You'll want the package "build-essential", not just make > > ("build-essential" includes make), and it should work without an > > internet connection as the package, as well as make, is on the install > > CD. > > > > Tez > > > > Sam wrote: > > > So it wont work because the file I want to install is the driver and > > > utility for my usb-wlan-stick. I can only connect my computer to the > > > internet when this tarball is installed. > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/10/22, O. Sinclair > > >: > > > > > > Just a short one; you definitely must be connected to run these > > > commands > > > as they pick up from the internet repositories and not from your > > > disk or > > > a CD > > > > > > sinclair > > > > > > Sam wrote: > > > > I'll give it a try, will this work without a connection to the > > > internet? > > > > I'll run the following commands: apt-get install make and > > apt-get > > > > install module-assistant. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Daniel Pittman < daniel at rimspace.net > > > > > >> > > > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 21:42:56 +1000 > > > > Subject: Re: cannot install programs > > > > Sam < theoneandonlysam at gmail.com > > > > > > > > >> writes: > > > > > > > >> When I try to install a program, the Konsole always give me > > > always an > > > >> answer that the command make or another command I tried, > > doesn't > > > >> exist. > > > > > > > > Well, that would probably be because they are not installed on > > the > > > > computer. The tools to build C software are not part of the > > basic > > > > installation of Ubuntu because they are relatively specialized. > > > > > > > > What you want to do is install the appropriate packages. For > > > 'make' the > > > > package is, er, 'make.' > > > > > > > > For everything else you can search for an appropriate package by > > > using > > > > the "search the content of packages" option at > > > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to find which packages you need to > > > install. > > > > > > > > However: > > > > > > > >> I tried to install the following: > > > >> > > > >> > > http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/Linux_1036.zip. > > > >> It's a driver and a utility to get my USB-WLAN-adapter to > > work. > > > > > > > > This is really not the best way to achieve your results. Ubuntu > > > ship > > > > the rt2500 driver source as an appropriate package, so the best > > > way to > > > > get it compiled would be to install the 'module-assistant' > > package. > > > > > > > > Then, run 'sudo m-a' in a shell and follow the prompts to have > > it > > > > install the software needed to compile drivers, then build and > > > install > > > > the rt2500 driver for you. > > > > > > > > That should require significantly less effort than trying to > > build > > > > software by hand. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Daniel > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Oct 22 20:58:36 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:58:36 +0100 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <930775c20610221335n799bc11er7348481c19082950@mail.gmail.com> References: <930775c20610220205r6a865554x2f830d4afd7da9d9@mail.gmail.com> <453B35CE.6020000@gmail.com> <930775c20610220242l7a289c58q9d0918f91490aef0@mail.gmail.com> <453B60D7.3090905@blueyonder.co.uk> <930775c20610221213q1c2ff3f0h6ce460c709cfc01f@mail.gmail.com> <930775c20610221335n799bc11er7348481c19082950@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453BDB7C.2050702@blueyonder.co.uk> You'll need the kernel headers installed to compile a module, you should just be able to type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` that will install the correct version for whatever kernel you are running. Tez Sam wrote: > Ok, I installed the build-essential (Synaptic is GREAT). Just the > following problem: the following directory doesn't exist and is needed > for all installations: /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build. What do I > need to put in it? I checked the directory /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-286 > and it really doesn't contain the map named build. > > Sam > > > 2006/10/22, Sam >: > > Because I was new to Linux and it was just to try it out, I > changed my computer to ubuntu. But because it's the same, could > you give a quick overview of the things I need to do and the > commands I need to enter? > > Sam > > > > > 2006/10/22, Tez >: > > You'll want the package "build-essential", not just make > ("build-essential" includes make), and it should work without an > internet connection as the package, as well as make, is on the > install CD. > > Tez > From bg.branko at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 21:40:56 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:40:56 +0200 Subject: Can't read backup dvd's under edgy In-Reply-To: <453BCE8D.2070900@rmk.co.il> References: <453BCE8D.2070900@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610222340.57002.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Sunday 22 October 2006. 22:03, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Just did a clean install of edgy on my Toshiba laptop; updated, dist > upgraded, installed all the nice codec stuff etc. but can't read my > backup dvd's that I can on my dapper [main] box (the laptop used to be > able to under dapper). > The laptop can play dvd movies - just can't read my backup dvd's :-( my > backup cd's it can read fine - just not the dvd's. First of all, I did a google search on on of the error msgs that you originally posted: >> [520938.360344] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hda, iso_blknum=16, >> block=16 Don't know how and how much this is related to your prob, but here goes: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264 http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/38242-mount-cd-dvd-rom-problems.html > Any ideas someone? Now, I don't know if you are aware of this, but when burning DVDs that are to be used on another system (box), you need to keep two things in mind (at least): 1. Do not burn at high speeds. Use at most half the maximum speed supported by your media. 2. Do not burn multi-session discs: close the first session when burning. You may try this: copy your backup DVD onto another disc using single session and burning at reduced speed (for example, if your disc is declared as a 4x disc, burn at 2x or 1x). Also, try different type of DVD: if you used +, then try -, and vice versa. This is especially important if your other drive (laptop one) is older. There are other factors, like some manufacturers emulating (badly) brand name disc characteristics. This causes the software to burn assuming specs that don't really fit the medium. Some drives will do a fine job, but some may burn discs that can only be read on the same make/model drives. Hope this helps. B From kamping_kaiser at internode.on.net Mon Oct 23 00:29:29 2006 From: kamping_kaiser at internode.on.net (Karl Goetz) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:59:29 +0930 Subject: cannot install programs In-Reply-To: <87irickil9.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <20061021185337.79427.qmail@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610211855.20711.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <87irickil9.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <453C0CE9.7060904@internode.on.net> Daniel Pittman wrote: > Rob Blomquist writes: > >> On Saturday 21 October 2006 11:53, Bry Melvin wrote: >> >> >>> you should use sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb >>> >> I highly recommend that you install with "sudo apt-get install >> packagename.deb, as that will check the dependancies. >> > > Er, no. apt-get has no capability to install .deb package files; it is > only able to fetch them from a remote repository and install them. > > Using apt-get to install packages is great, but if you have it > downloaded already it doesn't help much. Which, I admit, sucks. :) > > Regards, > Daniel > If the package has been moved into /var/cache/apt/archives you dont need to be online. apt will look in the cache, find the file, and be happy. kk -- Karl Goetz The buck stops there -> $ Australian Ubuntu users team - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam From johndecarlo at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 01:20:34 2006 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:20:34 -0400 Subject: OOo 2.0.4 In-Reply-To: <20061021190612.2941.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <200610210735.13189.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <20061021190612.2941.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0610221820i130139c1qc51a60f52692c0be@mail.gmail.com> On 10/21/06, Bry Melvin wrote: > .04 is a minor but significant release. There are some > major changes and bug fixes. the changes are listed Yes, but one of the significant changes is improved KDE support. So I would hope the Kubuntu people would at least backport it to Dapper. I guess the Ubuntu folks don't care that much. OTOH, I believe 2.04 is in Edgy, so you could try adding Edgy repositories temporarily just to install it. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own From philsf at ufrj.br Sun Oct 22 17:03:55 2006 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:03:55 -0300 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <880dece00610190724h76cabb90re407a5092e964567@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <20061019135705.253b0702.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <880dece00610190724h76cabb90re407a5092e964567@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610221403.55750.philsf@ufrj.br> Em Thursday 19 October 2006 11:24, Dotan Cohen escreveu: How about using aptitude's text ui? From there you can probaly resolve this fairly quickly, or at least have a nice view of what the deps problem is in fact. From nigel at rmk.co.il Mon Oct 23 05:29:42 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 07:29:42 +0200 Subject: Can't read backup dvd's under edgy In-Reply-To: <200610222340.57002.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <453BCE8D.2070900@rmk.co.il> <200610222340.57002.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <453C5346.8030203@rmk.co.il> Branko Vukelic wrote: > On Sunday 22 October 2006. 22:03, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Just did a clean install of edgy on my Toshiba laptop; updated, dist >> upgraded, installed all the nice codec stuff etc. but can't read my >> backup dvd's that I can on my dapper [main] box (the laptop used to be >> able to under dapper). >> The laptop can play dvd movies - just can't read my backup dvd's :-( my >> backup cd's it can read fine - just not the dvd's. > > First of all, I did a google search on on of the error msgs that you > originally posted: > >>> [520938.360344] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hda, iso_blknum=16, >>> block=16 > > Don't know how and how much this is related to your prob, but here goes: > > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264 > http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/38242-mount-cd-dvd-rom-problems.html > > >> Any ideas someone? > > Now, I don't know if you are aware of this, but when burning DVDs that are to > be used on another system (box), you need to keep two things in mind (at > least): > > 1. Do not burn at high speeds. Use at most half the maximum speed supported by > your media. > > 2. Do not burn multi-session discs: close the first session when burning. > > You may try this: copy your backup DVD onto another disc using single session > and burning at reduced speed (for example, if your disc is declared as a 4x > disc, burn at 2x or 1x). > > Also, try different type of DVD: if you used +, then try -, and vice versa. > This is especially important if your other drive (laptop one) is older. > > There are other factors, like some manufacturers emulating (badly) brand name > disc characteristics. This causes the software to burn assuming specs that > don't really fit the medium. Some drives will do a fine job, but some may > burn discs that can only be read on the same make/model drives. > > Hope this helps. > > B > Thanks for the help. My memory isn't what it used to be - so, since the laptop is about 6 years old, it probably can't (and never did) read data burned dvd's. I shall just have to make sure that I burn important stuff for the laptop to cd :-) The problem still exists for the 'coaster' that my main [year old] box can't read but Win xp can!?? Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 07:11:15 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:11:15 +0200 Subject: Cant install koffice 1.6 In-Reply-To: <200610221403.55750.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <880dece00610180949t71cea729ubd11ec54857d2da@mail.gmail.com> <20061019135705.253b0702.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <880dece00610190724h76cabb90re407a5092e964567@mail.gmail.com> <200610221403.55750.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <880dece00610230011w330e0aa2j612cbb55f295ae80@mail.gmail.com> On 22/10/06, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > Em Thursday 19 October 2006 11:24, Dotan Cohen escreveu: > > How about using aptitude's text ui? From there you can probaly resolve this > fairly quickly, or at least have a nice view of what the deps problem is in > fact. In fact, I'm using apt-get. I wouldn't do it any other way. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/spam.html http://technology-sleuth.com/short_answer/what_is_a_firewall.html From adeel.javaid at cresbank.com Mon Oct 23 11:21:52 2006 From: adeel.javaid at cresbank.com (Addel Javaid) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:21:52 +0500 Subject: Map Drive Message-ID: <453CA5D0.6030408@cresbank.com> I want to map drive on kubuntu ,how can i do it, my data on windows machine as folder name "A" so how can i map drive from kubuntu to windows Any one knows it Regards Adeel Jawed From captainmish at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 12:05:21 2006 From: captainmish at gmail.com (Hamish) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:05:21 +0100 Subject: Map Drive In-Reply-To: <453CA5D0.6030408@cresbank.com> References: <453CA5D0.6030408@cresbank.com> Message-ID: <200610231305.29213.captainmish@gmail.com> On Monday 23 October 2006 12:21, Addel Javaid wrote: > I want to map drive on kubuntu ,how can i do it, > > my data on windows machine as folder name "A" so how can i map drive > from kubuntu to windows > > Any one knows it Linux does not use the concept of "drives", so having it the same as your windows installation is not possible. Konqueror has a nice way of opening windows shares: just put in smb://server/share (instead of http://pr0n.com), you can add these as bookmarks for a reasonably quick way of accessing windows shares. You can also mount windows shares with smbmount - look it up on google, this is a better way to do it, as apps will be able to write directly to the share. HTH -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 14:53:52 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:53:52 +0200 Subject: Removing mouse cursor from text feild Message-ID: <880dece00610230753x20eff5eal8394e051fb87ea69@mail.gmail.com> How does one tell KDE to remove the visible mouse cursor when composing text? I often find that the mouse cursor obscures exactly the part that I'm trying to read. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/text_editor.html http://technology-sleuth.com/question/what_is_a_firewall.html From nigel at rmk.co.il Mon Oct 23 17:53:55 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:53:55 +0200 Subject: Toshset utils fan not working - edgy - Solved! In-Reply-To: <453BC2A9.7030806@rmk.co.il> References: <453BC2A9.7030806@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <453D01B3.6000801@rmk.co.il> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just did a clean install of edgy on my Toshiba Satellite laptop and > the toshset fan, which always worked in both breezy and dapper doesn't > work in edgy. > > I tried to register with launchpad in order to file a bug report but > keep getting an oops error message - I'll try again later. > > In the meantime has anyone else experienced the same thing using a > Toshiba laptop? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > Silly me - I forgot to put a '-' before the 'fan' flag :-( It should be: sudo toshset -fan on I found my mistake by reading the 'man' page for 'toshset'. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From bg.branko at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 18:53:44 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:53:44 +0200 Subject: Can't read backup dvd's under edgy In-Reply-To: <453C5346.8030203@rmk.co.il> References: <453BCE8D.2070900@rmk.co.il> <200610222340.57002.bg.branko@gmail.com> <453C5346.8030203@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610232053.44426.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Monday 23 October 2006. 07:29, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Thanks for the help. > My memory isn't what it used to be - so, since the laptop is about 6 > years old, it probably can't (and never did) read data burned dvd's. Hmm, that does sound odd... No data DVDs? Just video? Well, I didn't even know about DVDs 6 years ago, lol, so I wasn't aware that there was a difference between video DVDs and data DVDs (as far as drive capabilities go, that is)... Anyway, I would still try to burn a single-session data DVD at 1x and see if the Toshiba drive would read it. You know, just for fun. > The problem still exists for the 'coaster' that my main [year old] box > can't read but Win xp can!?? WinXP on the SAME machine? Or anoter box? Best, B From bg.branko at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 19:23:47 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:23:47 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... Message-ID: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> Hi list, This is not really a problem relating to anything in particular... It's more like my cumulative experience of using Kubuntu... THIS IS RATHER LONG. IF YOU GET BORED DON'T SAY I DID NOT WARN YOU! AND THIS IS NOT A DISTRO COMPARISON, FLAME WAR STARTER, OR A TROLL. :-) I have used Ubuntu as my very first (excluding Red Hat that lived for 20 minutes on my main disk a few years ago) linux experience. Love on first sight, I might add. Since then, everything but work is done under Linux in my house. :) After a while, I discovered the KDE, and all the wonders of an well organized and highly customizable desktop environment. After a few months (actually, I think it was about half an year), I was up to my neck with various software I pulled off the repos, drivers, codecs. Ubuntu couldn't handle it any longer and broke down completely... I got frustrated trying to fix it and accidentally erased all my photos (wedding, kid's birth, everything)... So I finally gave Kubuntu a kick in the butt off my PC and switched to Slackware. Meanwhile, search for the perfect distro continued leading me to Suse, Kanotix, ELive, Puppy, and Arch Linux. In Arch I found the stability and ease of use I was looking for... I used Arch for about six months, but found it difficult to have to compile less common pieces of software from scratch. I did enjoy it in Slackware, but I have a small kid and a job, so I can't spend so much time compiling stuff. So, here I was using Kubuntu again. But here in Kubuntu, system instability is a pain in the back. I have only installed a few things off unofficial repos (which are, however, mentioned in the wiki), but the system just isn't as snappy as an Arch fully loaded with codecs, apps and drivers. Moreover, I frequently experience unwanted and unexpected behavior from all apps that I use daily. Don't get me wrong. I'm not an average computer user (or at least I like to think I'm not). I'm not a geek either, but I like to fiddle with insides of a system when time permits. But this time, time is not something I have. I don't have enough spare time to tweak the s**t out of a distro until it works as it should. Arch, for example, was quick to install and set up. And the pacman package manager pulled off the repo the stuff I needed and installed everything without an error... Every thing worked out of the box and even Compiz worked as per wiki directions. I was amazed by how much less effort it required compared to a Slackware, for example, or other immature distros out there. That ease of use far surpasses what Kubuntu was meant to achieve. The only thing I lacked in Arch was 16,000+ programs in the repos. :) So, I'm thinking of going back to Arch again if Kubuntu continues to behave badly as it does now. I just can't afford to spend so much time doing nothing but fixing the bits. But before I do, I'd like to give Kubuntu a benefit of a doubt. (Yeah, I am a bit sentimental when it comes to Kubuntu.) What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially appreciate comments from those users that used or are using multiple distros. Is it really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not doing things right? From bonedu at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 20:12:00 2006 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:12:00 +0200 Subject: Dependencies problem Message-ID: <3e192e060610231312t3966cedes9e431041997451c5@mail.gmail.com> After updating i cannot install some programs because of "broken dependencies". When i type sudo apt-get upgrade nothing occurs. But when i type, for example sudo apt-get install mplayer I get a message saying that mplayer depends on libdirectfb-0.9-22 but it is not installable (E: broken packets -i am translating from catalan and it could be another thing instead of "packets"). How can i solve this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Mon Oct 23 21:15:42 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:15:42 +1300 Subject: Dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <3e192e060610231312t3966cedes9e431041997451c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e192e060610231312t3966cedes9e431041997451c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061024101542.7ce0c1e5@timewheel> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:12:00 +0200 "Eduard Bonet" wrote: > After updating i cannot install some programs because of "broken > dependencies". When i type > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > nothing occurs. But when i type, for example > > sudo apt-get install mplayer > > I get a message saying that mplayer depends on libdirectfb-0.9-22 but > it is not installable (E: broken packets -i am translating from > catalan and it could be another thing instead of "packets"). > > How can i solve this? Ok for a start have you both the multiverse and universe repos enabled. With broken packages like this it can sometimes be a bit of a mission to fix them. First thing to try is sudo apt-get install -f just to make sure that there aren't any half installed packages breaking things. If none or that fixes them make sure you have both multiverse and universe repos enabled sudo apt-get update and try again. David -- *~~~Linux user #215413 homepages http://obsidion.kwister.com http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~obsidion From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Mon Oct 23 21:52:58 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy Penguin) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:52:58 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610231452.58783.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Monday 23 October 2006 12:23, Branko Vukelic wrote: > What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially appreciate > comments from those users that used or are using multiple distros. Is it > really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not doing things right? Using Kubuntu Draspper here also Mandriva 2006 Fedora Core 5 and puppy Kbuntu has been very good so far[ wish I could get flash to work in 64 bit version tho] From gene.heskett at verizon.net Mon Oct 23 21:54:54 2006 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:54:54 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610231754.54635.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 23 October 2006 15:23, Branko Vukelic wrote: >Hi list, > >This is not really a problem relating to anything in particular... It's > more like my cumulative experience of using Kubuntu... > >THIS IS RATHER LONG. IF YOU GET BORED DON'T SAY I DID NOT WARN YOU! AND > THIS IS NOT A DISTRO COMPARISON, FLAME WAR STARTER, OR A TROLL. :-) > >I have used Ubuntu as my very first (excluding Red Hat that lived for 20 >minutes on my main disk a few years ago) linux experience. Love on first >sight, I might add. Since then, everything but work is done under Linux > in my house. :) > >After a while, I discovered the KDE, and all the wonders of an well > organized and highly customizable desktop environment. > >After a few months (actually, I think it was about half an year), I was > up to my neck with various software I pulled off the repos, drivers, > codecs. Ubuntu couldn't handle it any longer and broke down > completely... I got frustrated trying to fix it and accidentally erased > all my photos (wedding, kid's birth, everything)... So I finally gave > Kubuntu a kick in the butt off my PC and switched to Slackware. > >Meanwhile, search for the perfect distro continued leading me to Suse, >Kanotix, ELive, Puppy, and Arch Linux. In Arch I found the stability and > ease of use I was looking for... > >I used Arch for about six months, but found it difficult to have to > compile less common pieces of software from scratch. I did enjoy it in > Slackware, but I have a small kid and a job, so I can't spend so much > time compiling stuff. So, here I was using Kubuntu again. > >But here in Kubuntu, system instability is a pain in the back. I have > only installed a few things off unofficial repos (which are, however, > mentioned in the wiki), but the system just isn't as snappy as an Arch > fully loaded with codecs, apps and drivers. Moreover, I frequently > experience unwanted and unexpected behavior from all apps that I use > daily. > >Don't get me wrong. I'm not an average computer user (or at least I like > to think I'm not). I'm not a geek either, but I like to fiddle with > insides of a system when time permits. But this time, time is not > something I have. > >I don't have enough spare time to tweak the s**t out of a distro until it >works as it should. Arch, for example, was quick to install and set up. > And the pacman package manager pulled off the repo the stuff I needed > and installed everything without an error... Every thing worked out of > the box and even Compiz worked as per wiki directions. I was amazed by > how much less effort it required compared to a Slackware, for example, > or other immature distros out there. That ease of use far surpasses what > Kubuntu was meant to achieve. The only thing I lacked in Arch was > 16,000+ programs in the repos. :) > >So, I'm thinking of going back to Arch again if Kubuntu continues to > behave badly as it does now. I just can't afford to spend so much time > doing nothing but fixing the bits. But before I do, I'd like to give > Kubuntu a benefit of a doubt. (Yeah, I am a bit sentimental when it > comes to Kubuntu.) > >What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially appreciate > comments from those users that used or are using multiple distros. Is it > really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not doing things right? I'm running (6.06) it on a machine whose main task is as a cnc controller, but within those limits I've also done anything else on it I needed, and some things just to see if I could. And its been 110% bulletproof so far. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Tue Oct 24 00:24:06 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:24:06 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <453D5D26.7080902@optonline.net> Branko Vukelic wrote: >Hi list, > >This is not really a problem relating to anything in particular... It's more >like my cumulative experience of using Kubuntu... > >THIS IS RATHER LONG. IF YOU GET BORED DON'T SAY I DID NOT WARN YOU! AND THIS >IS NOT A DISTRO COMPARISON, FLAME WAR STARTER, OR A TROLL. :-) > >I have used Ubuntu as my very first (excluding Red Hat that lived for 20 >minutes on my main disk a few years ago) linux experience. Love on first >sight, I might add. Since then, everything but work is done under Linux in my >house. :) > > > (truncated) >What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially appreciate comments >from those users that used or are using multiple distros. Is it really >somewhat unstable, or I'm just not doing things right? > > > Gosh...I just switched over from Fedora about two months ago, and I haven´t had any major problems. A few minor glitches, but I´ve been able to either resolve them myself or get help from the list. I´m far from an expert, too. I´ve been using Fedora/RH exclusively for about 6 years, but, that just means I have experience using a mature system, not that I´m a skilled hacker by any means. You´re scaring me....I haven´t seen any major instability. Yum kept breaking stuff on Fedora, thus my switch, and so far I LOVE Kubuntu. Apt is so much faster than yum. Nothing has broken. Everything just works. Tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Tue Oct 24 00:29:07 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:29:07 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <453D5D26.7080902@optonline.net> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <453D5D26.7080902@optonline.net> Message-ID: <453D5E53.7050902@optonline.net> anthony baldwin wrote: >Branko Vukelic wrote: > > > >>Hi list, >> >>This is not really a problem relating to anything in particular... It's more >>like my cumulative experience of using Kubuntu... >> >>THIS IS RATHER LONG. IF YOU GET BORED DON'T SAY I DID NOT WARN YOU! AND THIS >>IS NOT A DISTRO COMPARISON, FLAME WAR STARTER, OR A TROLL. :-) >> >>I have used Ubuntu as my very first (excluding Red Hat that lived for 20 >>minutes on my main disk a few years ago) linux experience. Love on first >>sight, I might add. Since then, everything but work is done under Linux in my >>house. :) >> >> >> >> >> >(truncated) > > > >>What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially appreciate comments >> >> >>from those users that used or are using multiple distros. Is it really > > >>somewhat unstable, or I'm just not doing things right? >> >> >> >> >> > >Gosh...I just switched over from Fedora about two months ago, and I >haven´t had any major problems. >A few minor glitches, but I´ve been able to either resolve them myself >or get help from the list. >I´m far from an expert, too. I´ve been using Fedora/RH exclusively for >about 6 years, but, that >just means I have experience using a mature system, not that I´m a >skilled hacker by any means. >You´re scaring me....I haven´t seen any major instability. >Yum kept breaking stuff on Fedora, thus my switch, and so far I LOVE >Kubuntu. >Apt is so much faster than yum. Nothing has broken. >Everything just works. > >Tony > > > Oh yeah, I have experimented with Vector, Damn Small, Corel Linux, Blue Linux, and Lycoris,too, but my use of any of them was rather brief. Vector and DSL I loaded onto machines I built from spare, donated parts and gave to students/schools. When possible, though, even those I loaded with RH based K12Linux. I dug RH/Fedora, but I dig Kubuntu more. tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From daniel at rimspace.net Tue Oct 24 00:10:05 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:10:05 +1000 Subject: Kubuntu instability... References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <874ptuinfm.fsf@rimspace.net> Branko Vukelic writes: > This is not really a problem relating to anything in > particular... It's more like my cumulative experience of using > Kubuntu... [...] > But here in Kubuntu, system instability is a pain in the back. I have > only installed a few things off unofficial repos (which are, however, > mentioned in the wiki), but the system just isn't as snappy as an Arch > fully loaded with codecs, apps and drivers. That is very odd, since the kernel and applications are pretty much identical -- those codecs, apps and drivers just don't show up during normal running other than as disk space used. > Moreover, I frequently experience unwanted and unexpected behavior > from all apps that I use daily. That sounds terrible. Have you reported these problems to anyone? Filed bug reports? If your experience has been as bad as you say, and I see no reason to believe you are making things up, then submitting bug reports will really help Ubuntu. Even if you don't care any more it would be really helpful to run through and throw the top dozen -- or even the one or two from today -- into Launchpad. That way the developers can actually identify the problems and try to fix them so that other people don't have the same bad experiences. [...] > What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially appreciate > comments from those users that used or are using multiple distros. Is > it really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not doing things right? My experience across twenty-odd machines ranging from IBM workstations, servers and laptops through to P2 and P3 machines built from whatever junk was lying around is that KUbuntu is as reliable and as fast as KDE anywhere else.[1] This is reasonable, since the Ubuntu parts are not really anything but some default settings and a few additional applications. Their kernel, KDE software and underlying infrastructure really doesn't differ that much from anyone else. So, yes, I am surprised that you had so much trouble and, especially, that you report such a performance difference between Ubuntu and anything else -- because it is difficult to understand where this difference comes from. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] A couple of the Ubuntu specific applications have had minor issues, such as their "System Settings" application not sensibly displaying scrollbars for control setting panes larger than the visible area. -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 01:10:37 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:10:37 -0500 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper Message-ID: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> I have two machines running Dapper, one a desktop the other my laptop. The Desktop generally stays running all the time, for weeks on end. The problem is the time drifts horribly. In about 2 days the time will be fast by at least 20 Minutes. I have stopped it from checking the hardware, and I have made sure the ntpd daemon is starting, but no matter what it drifts. Has anyone else seen this, or does anyone have any ideas? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From jjesse at iserv.net Tue Oct 24 01:43:38 2006 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:43:38 -0400 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: AAAAAFbl6OxMKhJEi+BSC2j8zrkk+yQA Message-ID: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> The only problem I have is w/ my virutal machines that drift based on how long they are paused. However my Xubuntu machines don't have the same problem or as big of a problem? -----Original Message----- From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Howard Coles Jr. Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:11 PM To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: problem with Time in Dapper I have two machines running Dapper, one a desktop the other my laptop. The Desktop generally stays running all the time, for weeks on end. The problem is the time drifts horribly. In about 2 days the time will be fast by at least 20 Minutes. I have stopped it from checking the hardware, and I have made sure the ntpd daemon is starting, but no matter what it drifts. Has anyone else seen this, or does anyone have any ideas? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From lists at wordit.com Tue Oct 24 01:11:34 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 03:11:34 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610240311.35246.lists@wordit.com> On Monday 23 October 2006 21:23, Branko Vukelic wrote: > What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially appreciate > comments from those users that used or are using multiple distros. Is > it really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not doing things right? I previously used Debian and a Knoppix HDD install for several years. A few months ago I switched to Dapper 6.0.6 and it works great for me on both desktop and laptop **. Compilation has not been a problem at all either. I compiled the ivtv drivers and packages from scratch, and some other apps where the Kubuntu packages are outdated, without problems. You do need some time setting up codecs, but Automatix helps a lot with those things. Otherwise I'm very pleased with it. Kubuntu means I use Linux 99.5% of my computing time, only needing to boot Windows maybe once a month for some special apps. The only instability I experience is related to Konqueror which does regularly crash, yesterday locking a CD-ROM drive. I then discovered using lsof to get the PID...and realised "Hey, that Konqueror process crashed hours ago and it's still got its grubby paws on the CD drive." KPDF is also a bit shaky within Konqueror, and crashes on encrypted documents created by tkpdf, which Acrobat has no problem with. Those are application-specific issues though, so I would say try and trace the culprit apps, it may not be Kubuntu related. ** I do have a problem on my Kubuntu laptop which did not occur using Debian Sarge. I sometimes need to boot several times, using recovery mode with startx as root, to get into X. I have a feeling it is to do with ACPI, in any case the keyboard and mouse do not respond once X is loaded, and the screen is black. For this I thought of going back to Debian, but maybe using APM will help. I'm not sure whether it's a Distro setup issue with xorg, an incompatibility between my laptop and ACPI/APM, or several issues all together. In any case I cannot go on booting 3-5 times in order to get to my Kubuntu desktop. However, once the desktop is running it is very stable. Marcus From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 02:27:35 2006 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:27:35 -0600 Subject: KWalletManager icon?! In-Reply-To: <200610220114.09983.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610211353.07590.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610210601.53681.liz@kandew.com> <200610220114.09983.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0610231927q4ed7040al42af06cd6984f3e9@mail.gmail.com> My solution was to do "killall kwalletmanager; kwalletmanager". It would then show up and I could look at the wallet. I can confirm that this problem was fixed with the 3.5.5 KDE upgrade. I no longer have this problem on my AMD64. Michael On 10/21/06, Branko Vukelic wrote: > On Saturday 21 October 2006. 15:01, Liz Young wrote: > > > To work around it, I would open a web page with some cached info so the > > wallet would appear on the status bar. Clicking on it would bring up an > > empty wallet. Closing and reopening it finally gave me access to my > > passwords. Sort of inconvenient, but it worked. > > Yeah, it does sound like a lot of work. I will look into it. Thanks for the > input. > > B > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From mailinglist at endosquid.com Tue Oct 24 03:50:00 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:50:00 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610232350.00770.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Monday 23 October 2006 15:23, Branko Vukelic wrote: > After a few months (actually, I think it was about half an year), I was up > to my neck with various software I pulled off the repos, drivers, codecs. > Ubuntu couldn't handle it any longer and broke down completely... I got > frustrated trying to fix it and accidentally erased all my photos (wedding, > kid's birth, everything)... So I finally gave Kubuntu a kick in the butt > off my PC and switched to Slackware. Wait, so you realize that you accidentally erasing your photos (without a backup?) has zero to do with the distro...And I have installed hundreds of things from repos, even went from Hoary to Edgy without a hiccup, so I would be suspicious of PEBKAC. > But here in Kubuntu, system instability is a pain in the back. I have only > installed a few things off unofficial repos (which are, however, mentioned > in the wiki), but the system just isn't as snappy as an Arch fully loaded > with codecs, apps and drivers. Moreover, I frequently experience unwanted > and unexpected behavior from all apps that I use daily. ALL apps? Dude, let's get with some facts, bug reports, SOMETHING. This whole thing is starting to sound like a rant without anything backing it up. My Mom knits all day long and uses Kubuntu all night. She has nary a problem, and doesn't even know what a Home dir is...so... > I don't have enough spare time to tweak the s**t out of a distro until it > works as it should. Arch, for example, was quick to install and set up. And > the pacman package manager pulled off the repo the stuff I needed and > installed everything without an error... Every thing worked out of the box > and even Compiz worked as per wiki directions. I was amazed by how much > less effort it required compared to a Slackware, for example, or other > immature distros out there. That ease of use far surpasses what Kubuntu was > meant to achieve. The only thing I lacked in Arch was 16,000+ programs in > the repos. :) What are you talking about? Arch is okay, but how does it surpass (in actual words, not exclamations) Kubuntu, apt-get, aptitude and/or Synaptic. Please, let me know. > So, I'm thinking of going back to Arch again if Kubuntu continues to behave > badly as it does now. I just can't afford to spend so much time doing > nothing but fixing the bits. But before I do, I'd like to give Kubuntu a > benefit of a doubt. (Yeah, I am a bit sentimental when it comes to > Kubuntu.) How are you "fixing the bits"? From where I am standing, you don't seem to have diagnosed anything even enough to say what's wrong, let alone how to fix it. The ONE problem I have had on my ultra-tweaked, mega-built-on-top-of-including-all-codecs-even-alien-converted-rpms-etc Kubuntu is in Dapper, Openoffice would crash when loading attachments from Kmail every time. And yes, I filed a bug report, it got fixed in Edgy. From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 05:06:35 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:06:35 -0500 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> References: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> Message-ID: <200610240006.35835.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Monday 23 October 2006 8:43 pm, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > The only problem I have is w/ my virutal machines that drift based on how > long they are paused. However my Xubuntu machines don't have the same > problem or as big of a problem? > Well, I'm kinda stumped. I would have thought that the ntp daemon would have checked the time sources every so often and kept itself in time, adjusting the drift file accordingly. However, it appears that the ntpd that comes with Kubuntu is merely for other machines to sync with it, and it doesn't check other time sources. I'm still trying to figure out how to make it check the time sources I have setup in the /etc/ntp.conf file. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From daniel at rimspace.net Tue Oct 24 06:05:31 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:05:31 +1000 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper References: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> <200610240006.35835.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87mz7mfduc.fsf@rimspace.net> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > On Monday 23 October 2006 8:43 pm, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > >> The only problem I have is w/ my virutal machines that drift based on >> how long they are paused. However my Xubuntu machines don't have the >> same problem or as big of a problem? > > Well, I'm kinda stumped. I would have thought that the ntp daemon > would have checked the time sources every so often and kept itself in > time, adjusting the drift file accordingly. However, it appears that > the ntpd that comes with Kubuntu is merely for other machines to sync > with it, and it doesn't check other time sources. Unless you installed an NTP daemon yourself Ubuntu and friends only ship 'ntpdate' -- a one-shot tool to set the date at boot time. If you did install an ntp daemon it will, by default, use ntp.ubuntu.com as the sole time source; add more in /etc/ntp.conf to taste. > I'm still trying to figure out how to make it check the time sources I > have setup in the /etc/ntp.conf file. It almost certainly is. What is the output of 'ntpq -c peers' on your machine? Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From bg.branko at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 06:45:51 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:45:51 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610232350.00770.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610232350.00770.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200610240845.51715.bg.branko@gmail.com> > Wait, so you realize that you accidentally erasing your photos (without a > backup?) has zero to do with the distro...And I have installed hundreds of Okay, don't get me wrong. I accidentally erased a bunch of photos because I got frustrated while fixing something. So, yes, it has nothing to do with the distro. But I was just saying that that was the the time I switched to another distro. > ALL apps? Dude, let's get with some facts, bug reports, SOMETHING. This > whole thing is starting to sound like a rant without anything backing it > up. Not really all. Just some that I use the most, like Kaffeine and Konsole. These two in particular are not at fault themselves. I believe that a sequence of apps closing, and some becoming unresponsive and being killed off triggered something that caused Konsole not to run as it should. Also aptitude behaves oddly locking /var/lib/dpkg so no other package manager (and even aptitude itself) can't use it. Then there is RealPlayer segfaulting, from time to time (not all the time)... And no, I'm not going to try and track down the faulty bits, because there are too many things that I have to keep track of right now. > My Mom knits all day long and uses Kubuntu all night. She has nary a > problem, and doesn't even know what a Home dir is...so... And that has nothing to do with what I do. I don't knit, and I *need* a good night's sleep in order to be able to live the next day through. So you see my problem. I can't be spending so much time fixing Kubuntu. > What are you talking about? Arch is okay, but how does it surpass (in > actual words, not exclamations) Kubuntu, apt-get, aptitude and/or Synaptic. > Please, let me know. I don't know. I'm just talking about *my* experiences with both distros. Arch just works. Period. Nothing to tweak, nothing to fix. It just works. For me, that is. What it does out of the box is okay. As for Kubuntu, I did expect to have a bit of trouble downloading stuff that are not in the main repos, but then Aptitude started to act weird, so... well, I don't like it when things don't work the way I expect them to. I don't have time for surprises. One year ago, I'd probably make Kubuntu stand on its head and sing a song, but not today. > How are you "fixing the bits"? From where I am standing, you don't seem to > have diagnosed anything even enough to say what's wrong, let alone how to > fix it. No, you don't understand. I am NOT fixing anything. And I am not going to. I just wanted to see if there are ppl who find it odd that my Kubuntu works the way it does (i.e., bad). > The ONE problem I have had on my ultra-tweaked, > mega-built-on-top-of-including-all-codecs-even-alien-converted-rpms-etc > Kubuntu is in Dapper, Openoffice would crash when loading attachments from > Kmail every time. And yes, I filed a bug report, it got fixed in Edgy. Good for you. If I did try and find the problem and fix it, my wife would probably go berserk on me again, and my kid would start to cry. :-) I hope you can see my prob. I just wanted everything to work... I'll try to reinstall or something, but I'm not really happy about it. From bg.branko at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 07:07:37 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:07:37 +0200 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610240907.37524.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006. 03:10, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > Has anyone else seen this, or does anyone have any ideas? I had the same problem, too. I've turned off automatic clock adjustment from system settings, and the time drift is now down to about 1 minute a day... Not a solution, but it does seem like it's the ntpd. Yesterday I got 'cannot connect to server' error when I tried to re-enable the automatic clock adjustment. From bonedu at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 08:32:44 2006 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:32:44 +0200 Subject: Dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <20061024101542.7ce0c1e5@timewheel> References: <3e192e060610231312t3966cedes9e431041997451c5@mail.gmail.com> <20061024101542.7ce0c1e5@timewheel> Message-ID: <3e192e060610240132u18ae3bf6x98a9877e66f66b@mail.gmail.com> 2006/10/23, Rebel Lion : > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:12:00 +0200 > "Eduard Bonet" wrote: > > > After updating i cannot install some programs because of "broken > > dependencies". When i type > > > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > > > nothing occurs. But when i type, for example > > > > sudo apt-get install mplayer > > > > I get a message saying that mplayer depends on libdirectfb-0.9-22 but > > it is not installable (E: broken packets -i am translating from > > catalan and it could be another thing instead of "packets"). > > > > How can i solve this? > > > Ok for a start have you both the multiverse and universe repos > enabled. With broken packages like this it can sometimes be a bit of a > mission to fix them. First thing to try is sudo apt-get install -f just > to make sure that there aren't any half installed packages breaking > things. If none or that fixes them make sure you have both multiverse > and universe repos enabled sudo apt-get update and try again. > > David Thanks David. I've already tried what you say and the problem remains there. I really don't know what to do. Some time ago I heard there is a program that corrects for dependencies, do you happen to know its name? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 24 09:05:37 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:05:37 +1300 Subject: Dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <3e192e060610240132u18ae3bf6x98a9877e66f66b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e192e060610231312t3966cedes9e431041997451c5@mail.gmail.com> <20061024101542.7ce0c1e5@timewheel> <3e192e060610240132u18ae3bf6x98a9877e66f66b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061024220537.2d95df2b@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:32:44 +0200 "Eduard Bonet" wrote: > > > > > Ok for a start have you both the multiverse and universe repos > > enabled. With broken packages like this it can sometimes be a bit > > of a mission to fix them. First thing to try is sudo apt-get > > install -f just to make sure that there aren't any half installed > > packages breaking things. If none or that fixes them make sure you > > have both multiverse and universe repos enabled sudo apt-get update > > and try again. > > > > David > > > > Thanks David. I've already tried what you say and the problem remains > there. I really don't know what to do. Some time ago I heard there is > a program that corrects for dependencies, do you happen to know its > name? I've never used them succesfully, but there are automatic installers, others here will be able to point you in the right direction. It could be a language problem of course ie the particular language-package you use might not have all the packages available. David -- *~~~Linux user #215413 homepages http://obsidion.kwister.com http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~obsidion From gismo at iol.ie Tue Oct 24 11:38:34 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (Steve) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:38:34 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610231754.54635.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610231754.54635.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200610241238.34556.gismo@iol.ie> On Mon 23 October u wrote: > >What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially > > appreciate comments from those users that used or are using > > multiple distros. Is it really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not > > doing things right? Its been rocksolid for me for the last 6 months on a T43P. steve From tchize at myrealbox.com Tue Oct 24 12:04:11 2006 From: tchize at myrealbox.com (Tchize) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:04:11 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610240845.51715.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610232350.00770.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200610240845.51715.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <453E013B.6040504@myrealbox.com> Branko Vukelic a écrit : > > > Not really all. Just some that I use the most, like Kaffeine and Konsole. > These two in particular are not at fault themselves. I believe that a > sequence of apps closing, and some becoming unresponsive and being killed off > triggered something that caused Konsole not to run as it should. Also > Having to kill apps is not normal behaviour in kubuntu. No easy to tell like that, but it looks like a bug in one kde core component. Didn't experience such behaviour, but can be a dcop problem. > aptitude behaves oddly locking /var/lib/dpkg so no other package manager (and > This is not odd, it just mean only one application can manage installation at a time. You surely don't want to see your installation corrupted because 2 differents apps tried to update it simultaneously. It has never been a problem form me. But again, if you need to kill your kde apps on a regular basis, this also probably means you need to kill aptitude from time to time. > even aptitude itself) can't use it. Then there is RealPlayer segfaulting, > from time to time (not all the time)... > Real player is closed source, can't do much about it. > And no, I'm not going to try and track down the faulty bits, because there are > too many things that I have to keep track of right now. > > No, you don't understand. I am NOT fixing anything. And I am not going to. I > just wanted to see if there are ppl who find it odd that my Kubuntu works the > way it does (i.e., bad). > Yes, that's odd. I have installed kubuntu at several places, different architectures, even on an apple PPC, it works. (With one exception, where ever i tried, i never managed to get the configuration tools handle properly wifi cards & WPA encryption, all those comps where then wired to network) > > Good for you. If I did try and find the problem and fix it, my wife would > probably go berserk on me again, and my kid would start to cry. :-) I hope > you can see my prob. I just wanted everything to work... I'll try to > reinstall or something, but I'm not really happy about it. > > Rule of thumb in computer: A problem never come single. Corollary: All your problem came at same time with a common cause. Did you ensure that your hardware is not faulty? Last time i saw a linux system go berserk like that, it was a memory defect. On the other hand, i am against distro wars, if you find a distro other than ubuntu that suits your need, there is no reason not to use it :) From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Tue Oct 24 14:14:22 2006 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:14:22 +0200 Subject: Suspect bug when copying/pasting stuff Message-ID: <453E1FBE.3000809@yahoo.it> Hi list, recently I had some strange behavior in Konqueror when copying/pasting files (system is 6.06.1 on AMD). When I'm copying files from hd to a usb device, if the device has not space enough for all the files, the operation aborts. If then I free up space and redo the paste operation, then the files are removed from the original location, as if I'd chose Cut as first step, and not Copy. Has anyone experienced the same issue? BTW, my KDE is 3.5.2, according to Synaptic (3.5.2-0ubuntu27) cheers, Ignazio -- Ignazio Palmisano Ph.D. Student - palmisano at di.uniba.it, ignazio_io at yahoo.it From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 12:41:36 2006 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:41:36 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610241238.34556.gismo@iol.ie> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610231754.54635.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200610241238.34556.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <453E0A00.4020306@gmail.com> Steve wrote: > On Mon 23 October u wrote: >>> What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially >>> appreciate comments from those users that used or are using >>> multiple distros. Is it really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not >>> doing things right? > > Its been rocksolid for me for the last 6 months on a T43P. > steve > Well, I have been using Kubuntu and experimenting with other distros (SimplyMepis, Vector, Linspire, Knoppix) since the Breezy and I always come back to Kubuntu. But in some sense I have a feeling Breezy was the most stable, Dapper had some real quirks and Edgy that I am now on seems to be the thing once I get all updates and so on downloaded. Admittedly, I have been using more and more recent hardware but I am/was a bit disappointed with Dapper. At this moment I am not pleased with Edgy going the "hide more and more stuff away behind x number of menus" idea but am sure I will get over that. Kubuntu still feels the most solid distro I have been using. But flawless, nope. I also get to kill apps, adept does not always start, computer sometimes refuses to shutdown and so on. Sinclair From philsf at ufrj.br Tue Oct 24 14:37:27 2006 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:37:27 -0300 Subject: encoding cp860 in konqueror Message-ID: <200610241137.27562.philsf@ufrj.br> Hello, the list of encodings for filenames in konqueror (or konsole, for that matter) does not include cp860, which is important for brazillian users that communicate with Windows users (everbody...?). Unfortunately this is the encoding XP uses for its CD burning. How can I add this encoding to kubuntu's KDE, so that I see filenames (and use them) correctly? I expect this not to be in konqueror's configuration, but rather some centralised place (based on the fact that the encodings list appears to be the same for every app that displays it). Please, anyone? regards FF From mailinglist at endosquid.com Tue Oct 24 14:57:21 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:57:21 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610240845.51715.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610232350.00770.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200610240845.51715.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610241057.21994.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 02:45, Branko Vukelic wrote: > Not really all. Just some that I use the most, like Kaffeine and Konsole. > These two in particular are not at fault themselves. I believe that a > sequence of apps closing, and some becoming unresponsive and being killed > off triggered something that caused Konsole not to run as it should. Also > aptitude behaves oddly locking /var/lib/dpkg so no other package manager > (and even aptitude itself) can't use it. Then there is RealPlayer > segfaulting, from time to time (not all the time)... OK, so a tab in Konsole wouldn't return you to a prompt? Yes, that is the command not returning properly. Has nothing to do with Konsole. Just close out the tab and open a new one. Aptitude I can't say much about, but I have heard that exact same thing about it, so perhaps you are right. I never use it, as apt-get is awesome, and just never F's up. RealPlayer itself has always had issues, but that has zero to do with Kubuntu. > And no, I'm not going to try and track down the faulty bits, because there > are too many things that I have to keep track of right now. Join the club, but until you do, it's hard to take you seriously. > And that has nothing to do with what I do. I don't knit, and I *need* a > good night's sleep in order to be able to live the next day through. So you > see my problem. I can't be spending so much time fixing Kubuntu. > > What are you talking about? Arch is okay, but how does it surpass (in > > actual words, not exclamations) Kubuntu, apt-get, aptitude and/or > > Synaptic. Please, let me know. > > I don't know. I'm just talking about *my* experiences with both distros. > Arch just works. Period. Nothing to tweak, nothing to fix. It just works. Ok, so the obvious question (so this discussion can actually yield something) is: what did you have to tweak and/or fix (outside of aptitude) on Kubuntu? > No, you don't understand. I am NOT fixing anything. And I am not going to. > I just wanted to see if there are ppl who find it odd that my Kubuntu works > the way it does (i.e., bad). And we are all still waiting for more explanation for what is "Bad"? You haven't really said anything solid. > Good for you. If I did try and find the problem and fix it, my wife would > probably go berserk on me again, and my kid would start to cry. :-) I hope > you can see my prob. I just wanted everything to work... I'll try to > reinstall or something, but I'm not really happy about it. Honestly, don't bother. Stick with whatever you think works, because I don't know if you have the diagnostic skills or desire to actually stick with something that you deem "needs work". Hey, if Arch works for you, bon chance. From bg.branko at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 16:59:15 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:59:15 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <453E013B.6040504@myrealbox.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610240845.51715.bg.branko@gmail.com> <453E013B.6040504@myrealbox.com> Message-ID: <200610241859.15466.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006. 14:04, Tchize wrote: > Having to kill apps is not normal behaviour in kubuntu. No easy to tell > like that, but it looks like a bug in one kde core component. Didn't > experience such behaviour, but can be a dcop problem. Now that you mentioned it, I do get dcop errors (but only on some boots, not always)... > This is not odd, it just mean only one application can manage > installation at a time. You surely don't want to see your installation > corrupted because 2 differents apps tried to update it simultaneously. No, I mean, aptitude locks dpkg, and it stays locked even after I exit aptitude... > Rule of thumb in computer: > A problem never come single. > Corollary: All your problem came at same time with a common cause. Yeah, I do agree to that. However, with so many symptoms, it's hard to tell. As you mentioned it earlier, it is most likely KDE core component. BTW, I'm using KDE from the Kubuntu repos, whereas the rest of the distro was actually installed from an Ubuntu CD. > Did you ensure that your hardware is not faulty? Last time i saw a linux > system go berserk like that, it was a memory defect. Hmm, I don't know for sure. I will run some test when I have time. However, I do use one or two live distros, including (but not limited to) Knoppix, Helix and RIP Linux (for data rescue purposes; I do that as a hobby). and none of them are complaining... RIP runs entirely from RAM and it's been working nicely. Actually, I think I ran it like 2 days ago for a few hours. > On the other hand, i am against distro wars, if you find a distro other > than ubuntu that suits your need, there is no reason not to use it :) I know. But I will always miss Ubuntu... Especially because of the comunity and the huge repos. :) From bg.branko at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 17:02:39 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:02:39 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <453E0A00.4020306@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241238.34556.gismo@iol.ie> <453E0A00.4020306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610241902.39624.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006. 14:41, O. Sinclair wrote: > Steve wrote: > > On Mon 23 October u wrote: > >>> What are your experiences with Kubuntu? I would especially > >>> appreciate comments from those users that used or are using > >>> multiple distros. Is it really somewhat unstable, or I'm just not > >>> doing things right? > > > > Its been rocksolid for me for the last 6 months on a T43P. > > steve > > Well, I have been using Kubuntu and experimenting with other distros > (SimplyMepis, Vector, Linspire, Knoppix) since the Breezy and I always > come back to Kubuntu. But in some sense I have a feeling Breezy was the > most stable, Dapper had some real quirks and Edgy that I am now on seems > to be the thing once I get all updates and so on downloaded. > > Admittedly, I have been using more and more recent hardware but I am/was > a bit disappointed with Dapper. > > At this moment I am not pleased with Edgy going the "hide more and more > stuff away behind x number of menus" idea but am sure I will get over that. > > Kubuntu still feels the most solid distro I have been using. But > flawless, nope. I also get to kill apps, adept does not always start, > computer sometimes refuses to shutdown and so on. > > Sinclair Whew... I was beginning to think I was the only one... ;-) From Chiphazard56 at aol.com Tue Oct 24 17:57:40 2006 From: Chiphazard56 at aol.com (Chiphazard56 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:57:40 EDT Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <3c8.bac1e46.326fae14@aol.com> i have just changed the cd rom to dvd wr+r or somthing like that its ok to play copies of movies but doesnt play original discs i keep getting error reading NAV packet please help, I have tried xine, kaffine thanks henjin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Oct 24 17:53:50 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:53:50 -0300 Subject: Kubuntu instability... References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610232350.00770.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200610240845.51715.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241057.21994.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: Brendan wrote: > On Tuesday 24 October 2006 02:45, Branko Vukelic wrote: > >> And no, I'm not going to try and track down the faulty bits, because >> there are too many things that I have to keep track of right now. > > Join the club, but until you do, it's hard to take you seriously. I don't agree. There are many programs I can't be bothered to try to help fix. When there are 5 ways to do something, I am not likely to even file a bug report when only one of the 5 has a problem. But... >> No, you don't understand. I am NOT fixing anything. And I am not going >> to. I just wanted to see if there are ppl who find it odd that my Kubuntu >> works the way it does (i.e., bad). Yeah, I find it very odd. I've been running the bleeding-edge versions of Ubuntu since Breezy was a pup, and I've always used aptitude, and don't ever have this problem. I'm not sure that it's not because of whatever else you're using that wants to lock dpkg, though. One reason I never used synaptic was that it held the lock continuously, so I couldn't use aptitude while synaptic ran. I use aptitude and kpackage simultaneously, but I don't _install_ with kpackage, and it only wants locks when it's installing. -- derek From mailinglist at endosquid.com Tue Oct 24 18:22:08 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:22:08 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241057.21994.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200610241422.08851.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 13:53, Derek Broughton wrote: > synaptic was that it held the lock continuously, so I couldn't use aptitude > while synaptic ran. I use aptitude and kpackage simultaneously, but I > don't _install_ with kpackage, and it only wants locks when it's > installing. Why would you use two installers at the same time? This seems like asking for trouble. So, when I turn the key when my car is already on, and I hear the starter get chomped...that's Audi's problem and made a "broken" car? From philsf at ufrj.br Tue Oct 24 18:56:44 2006 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:56:44 -0300 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610241859.15466.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <453E013B.6040504@myrealbox.com> <200610241859.15466.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610241556.45800.philsf@ufrj.br> Em Tuesday 24 October 2006 13:59, Branko Vukelic escreveu: > On Tuesday 24 October 2006. 14:04, Tchize wrote: > > This is not odd, it just mean only one application can manage > > installation at a time. You surely don't want to see your installation > > corrupted because 2 differents apps tried to update it simultaneously. > > No, I mean, aptitude locks dpkg, and it stays locked even after I exit > aptitude... Are you sure the applitacion locking the deb db is aptitude? It could very well be one of ADEPT's offspring (adept_updater comes to mind). I had once my aptitude blocked, and it was this adept_something that had silently crashed in the background. I killed it and everything went fine (didn't need to restart KDE). > > Rule of thumb in computer: > > A problem never come single. > > Corollary: All your problem came at same time with a common cause. > > Yeah, I do agree to that. However, with so many symptoms, it's hard to tell. > As you mentioned it earlier, it is most likely KDE core component. BTW, I'm > using KDE from the Kubuntu repos, whereas the rest of the distro was actually > installed from an Ubuntu CD. > > > Did you ensure that your hardware is not faulty? Last time i saw a linux > > system go berserk like that, it was a memory defect. > > Hmm, I don't know for sure. I will run some test when I have time. However, Give memtest a try. Also check if you have bad IDE/SATA cables, proper CPU/case ventilation, etc. From aikurn at gmail.com Tue Oct 24 19:05:52 2006 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:05:52 +0200 Subject: Dependencies problem In-Reply-To: <20061024220537.2d95df2b@localhost.localdomain> References: <3e192e060610231312t3966cedes9e431041997451c5@mail.gmail.com> <20061024101542.7ce0c1e5@timewheel> <3e192e060610240132u18ae3bf6x98a9877e66f66b@mail.gmail.com> <20061024220537.2d95df2b@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: > > Thanks David. I've already tried what you say and the problem remains > > there. I really don't know what to do. Some time ago I heard there is > > a program that corrects for dependencies, do you happen to know its > > name? You could try aptitude: $sudo aptitude install Or it's text ui: $sudo aptitude You may post the error message too. Leticia From Chiphazard56 at aol.com Tue Oct 24 20:10:01 2006 From: Chiphazard56 at aol.com (Chiphazard56 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:10:01 -0400 Subject: regionset Message-ID: <45E36D40.2A3AE161.0EF7054D@aol.com> hi again how do i setup region set now i have unpacked it any help please henjin From newslists at resrequest.com Tue Oct 24 20:25:05 2006 From: newslists at resrequest.com (Richard Howes) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:25:05 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <453E0A00.4020306@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241238.34556.gismo@iol.ie> <453E0A00.4020306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610242225.06129.newslists@resrequest.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 14:41, O. Sinclair wrote: > Kubuntu still feels the most solid distro I have been using. But > flawless, nope. I also get to kill apps, adept does not always start, > computer sometimes refuses to shutdown and so on. In support of the original poster, this is pretty much my experience as well. My most common problem is sometimes the computer refuses to shut down. No error, it just ignores the instruction. I get seg faults fairly regularly, mainly with Konqueror. OpenOffice Base is a regular crasher with seg faults, and on "recovery" I always lose the changes since the last successful save. Like the orignal poster, nothing I have tried to troubleshoot (at least in any detail). It's not been critical or often enough to warrant the time. I am techical (computer science degree and over 15 years IT/development experience) so its not lack of skill to track down the issues, more a time and will problem. I am running this on my Dell M70 laptop so its not your common variety hardware. My 3c Cheers Richard -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Tue Oct 24 23:02:41 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:02:41 -0400 Subject: no x-java-vm Message-ID: <453E9B91.6040309@optonline.net> Why can I not use application/x-java-vm chat? I have java installed and enable in mozilla... Other java applets work, as far as I know... example: http://espanglishchat.com/ Porque é que não posso utlizar o application/x-java/vm para bate-papo? Tenho o java instalado e funcionando em mozilla. exemplo: http://espanglishchat.com/ x-posted (as if you hadn´t guessed/como vocês não ja tinham adivinhado, ne)... thanks! obrigado! tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Wed Oct 25 00:14:22 2006 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:14:22 -0400 Subject: Removing mouse cursor from text feild In-Reply-To: <880dece00610230753x20eff5eal8394e051fb87ea69@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610230753x20eff5eal8394e051fb87ea69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610242014.23805.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> On Monday 23 October 2006 10:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: > How does one tell KDE to remove the visible mouse cursor when > composing text? I often find that the mouse cursor obscures exactly > the part that I'm trying to read. Look at the "unclutter" package. It causes the mouse cursor to disappear after a user-defined time. (Two seconds on my box.) apt-get install unclutter unclutter -idle 2 & ' The ampersand runs it as a background process I often run the command as "unclutter -idle 1 &" so that the cursor disappears soon after the mouse stops moving. Hope this helps, Bob From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Wed Oct 25 00:54:11 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:54:11 -0400 Subject: No more giving password to sudo Message-ID: <453EB5B3.4010705@bellsouth.net> Hi! I have Kubuntu 6.06 installed on 2 different machines, and on one I somehow made it where I don't have to give a password for anything anymore. That also includes kdesu and gksu. How do I do that on the other? I already used visudo ( [username] ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL) and ran all of the updates, but the second machine still nags me for a password. On the first, I did install kde 3.5.5 from another repo, but that is the only real difference I can think of. Also, all the universe and multiverse stuff is set on both. I know it is insecure, but the second computer is never connected to the internet anyway, so I really don't care about that. Thanks! -Steven From mailinglist at endosquid.com Wed Oct 25 02:35:13 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:35:13 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610241556.45800.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241859.15466.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241556.45800.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <200610242235.13996.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 14:56, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > Are you sure the applitacion locking the deb db is aptitude? It could very > well be one of ADEPT's offspring (adept_updater comes to mind). I had once > my aptitude blocked, and it was this adept_something that had silently > crashed in the background. I killed it and everything went fine (didn't > need to restart KDE). One note: I never have trouble with adept because I shut the damn thing down. I just do a apt-get update, apt-get -V dist-upgrade every so often to see what's available.... From mailinglist at endosquid.com Wed Oct 25 02:34:03 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:34:03 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610242225.06129.newslists@resrequest.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <453E0A00.4020306@gmail.com> <200610242225.06129.newslists@resrequest.com> Message-ID: <200610242234.03333.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 16:25, Richard Howes wrote: > My most common problem is sometimes the computer refuses to shut down. No > error, it just ignores the instruction. Did you play with your acpi=off setting in grub? http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/20799-ubuntu-shutdown-woes.html > I get seg faults fairly regularly, mainly with Konqueror. OpenOffice Base > is a regular crasher with seg faults, and on "recovery" I always lose the > changes since the last successful save. That recovery issue could be if the file hadn't loaded properly, like if you are launching it from an app, and the temp file gets messed. > Like the orignal poster, nothing I have tried to troubleshoot (at least in > any detail). It's not been critical or often enough to warrant the time. I > am techical (computer science degree and over 15 years IT/development > experience) so its not lack of skill to track down the issues, more a time > and will problem. Of course it's lack of skill...lack of skill with THIS particular system. Not a big deal, you will improve with time if you wish, or not. Most people do not want to, and that's ok...Me? I would track these problems down systematically from RAM to stacks to temp files, etc... From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 02:46:39 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:46:39 -0500 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <87mz7mfduc.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> <200610240006.35835.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <87mz7mfduc.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200610242146.40175.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 1:05 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: > "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > > > > Well, I'm kinda stumped. I would have thought that the ntp daemon > > would have checked the time sources every so often and kept itself in > > time, adjusting the drift file accordingly. However, it appears that > > the ntpd that comes with Kubuntu is merely for other machines to sync > > with it, and it doesn't check other time sources. > > Unless you installed an NTP daemon yourself Ubuntu and friends only ship > 'ntpdate' -- a one-shot tool to set the date at boot time. I did. > If you did install an ntp daemon it will, by default, use ntp.ubuntu.com > as the sole time source; add more in /etc/ntp.conf to taste. I did. > > I'm still trying to figure out how to make it check the time sources I > > have setup in the /etc/ntp.conf file. > > It almost certainly is. What is the output of 'ntpq -c peers' on your > machine? > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter ============================================================================== *time.nist.gov .ACTS. 1 u 24 64 377 121.646 -1800.5 390.095 +fiordland.ubunt 192.36.133.17 2 u 20 64 377 113.241 -1950.7 512.593 +Time1.Stupi.SE 192.36.143.152 2 u 28 64 177 146.240 -1690.7 352.934 -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Wed Oct 25 03:36:13 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:36:13 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610242234.03333.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <453E0A00.4020306@gmail.com> <200610242225.06129.newslists@resrequest.com> <200610242234.03333.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <453EDBAD.4020600@bellsouth.net> >> I get seg faults fairly regularly, mainly with Konqueror. OpenOffice Base >> is a regular crasher with seg faults, and on "recovery" I always lose the >> changes since the last successful save. >> Hmmm. Sounds to me like hardware (ram or cpu maybe) You could try dual booting some other linux (I myself would consider windoze just adding to the problem), or running memtest86+ for a while. From daniel at rimspace.net Wed Oct 25 04:30:01 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:30:01 +1000 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper References: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> <200610240006.35835.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <87mz7mfduc.fsf@rimspace.net> <200610242146.40175.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87ods1c912.fsf@rimspace.net> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > On Tuesday 24 October 2006 1:05 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: >> > >> > Well, I'm kinda stumped. I would have thought that the ntp daemon >> > would have checked the time sources every so often and kept itself in >> > time, adjusting the drift file accordingly. However, it appears that >> > the ntpd that comes with Kubuntu is merely for other machines to sync >> > with it, and it doesn't check other time sources. >> >> Unless you installed an NTP daemon yourself Ubuntu and friends only ship >> 'ntpdate' -- a one-shot tool to set the date at boot time. > > I did. > >> If you did install an ntp daemon it will, by default, use ntp.ubuntu.com >> as the sole time source; add more in /etc/ntp.conf to taste. > > I did. Well, the power cable is plugged in and the machine switched on. ;) >> > I'm still trying to figure out how to make it check the time sources I >> > have setup in the /etc/ntp.conf file. >> >> It almost certainly is. What is the output of 'ntpq -c peers' on your >> machine? >> > > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter > ============================================================================== > *time.nist.gov .ACTS. 1 u 24 64 377 121.646 -1800.5 390.095 > +fiordland.ubunt 192.36.133.17 2 u 20 64 377 113.241 -1950.7 512.593 > +Time1.Stupi.SE 192.36.143.152 2 u 28 64 177 146.240 -1690.7 352.934 Which shows that your NTP server has achieved synchronisation. Specifically, time.nist.gov has been selected as the active peer, with fiordland.ubuntu.com and time1.stupi.se both remaining on the list as suitable candidates in the event that time.nist.gov fails. So, your NTP server is correctly communicating with peers, but shows a *huge* offset value -- 1800.5 seconds, 1950.78 seconds and 1690.7 seconds away respectively. That is indicative of non-trivial problems, and ntpd will have trouble correcting a time offset that big. One way to help that is to stop ntpd, run ntpdate to set your time correctly from the peer and then restart ntpd. You should then show a tiny offset and have ntpd keep your time in sync. What timezone is your machine set to? Do you store UTC in the hardware? Do you get messages about time source or clock errors in the kernel log? Do you have another time adjustment tool installed such as chrony, openntpd or adjtimex? If so, did you disable it? In short: NTP is working, but your timekeeping has significant enough problems that ntpd alone is going to have trouble ever getting back into sync. Take drastic action to correct that, then depend on ntpd, and things should improve. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From nixternal at ubuntu.com Wed Oct 25 05:40:45 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:40:45 -0500 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610250040.49100.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Monday 23 October 2006 20:10, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > I have two machines running Dapper, one a desktop the other my laptop. > > The Desktop generally stays running all the time, for weeks on end. The > problem is the time drifts horribly. In about 2 days the time will be fast > by at least 20 Minutes. I have stopped it from checking the hardware, and > I have made sure the ntpd daemon is starting, but no matter what it drifts. > > Has anyone else seen this, or does anyone have any ideas? > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore Sorry, if someone already put this, I appologize, but I am not about to read through everyone of the replies right now ;) Here is how you fix your problem. From the command line, you want to do sudo nano /etc/crontab Your crontab should look like the following, if you haven't made any edits to it ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab # Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab' # command to install the new version when you edit this file. # This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs do. SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin # m h dom mon dow user command 17 * * * * root run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily 47 6 * * 7 root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly 52 6 1 * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the line prior to the # at the end, and the "52 6 1 * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly" line, add the following line: 0 * * * * root ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com Once you have added that line, do the following: Control+X closes nano Y for yes (to save the changes) Enter saves the file What this does is run ntpdate -s (silent) against the ntp.ubuntu.com time server every hour on the hour. My current offset since the last update 40 minutes ago is 25 Oct 00:39:21 ntpdate[28699]: adjust time server 82.211.81.145 offset -0.244109 sec Hope this helps, Enjoy! -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com .:http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bg.branko at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 07:36:02 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:36:02 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610241556.45800.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241859.15466.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241556.45800.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <200610250936.02225.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006. 20:56, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > Em Tuesday 24 October 2006 13:59, Branko Vukelic escreveu: > > On Tuesday 24 October 2006. 14:04, Tchize wrote: > > > This is not odd, it just mean only one application can manage > > > installation at a time. You surely don't want to see your installation > > > corrupted because 2 differents apps tried to update it simultaneously. > > > > No, I mean, aptitude locks dpkg, and it stays locked even after I exit > > aptitude... > > Are you sure the applitacion locking the deb db is aptitude? It could very > well be one of ADEPT's offspring (adept_updater comes to mind). I had once > my aptitude blocked, and it was this adept_something that had silently > crashed in the background. I killed it and everything went fine (didn't > need to restart KDE). Hmm, it could be it. But it's still odd. It happens whenever I run aptitude and try to install/remove stuff. Aptitude seems to exit cleanly but there's the lock after I start any package manager INCLUDING aptitude. Last time it happened, I did not even update the database... Usually, the notifier pops up when the database is refreshed, but I don't like to use it anyway. One other problem I'm facing with aptitude is that it constantly tries to remove most of the packages (whole of KDE, OpenOffice, python, etc) claiming they are no longer needed... I just press + for the entire group and the problem if fixed for that session, but next time I launch aptitude, it again tries to remove the same packages. Any way to fix that? > Give memtest a try. Also check if you have bad IDE/SATA cables, proper > CPU/case ventilation, etc. Apart from memory test, I would rule out any other hardware trouble. I changed IDE cables a few weeks ago and they work as expected. I also tested the drive itself because I'm using the same disk I recovered lost photos from. I had to check it during recovery. As for CPU/Case ventilation, I installed two extra fans into the case, so I doubt it is the CPU overheating. I will run memory test this weekend, and see if this is causing the trouble. I have a RIP Linux with memtest on it. At this moment, Kubuntu seems to run normally... for now. After a recent update of libqt3-mt package, my uptime is more than 16 hours, which is quite promissing. Maybe that was causing trouble? From daniel at rimspace.net Wed Oct 25 07:44:56 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:44:56 +1000 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610250040.49100.nixternal@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <87iri8c007.fsf@rimspace.net> Richard Johnson writes: > On Monday 23 October 2006 20:10, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > >> I have two machines running Dapper, one a desktop the other my laptop. >> >> The Desktop generally stays running all the time, for weeks on end. >> The problem is the time drifts horribly. In about 2 days the time >> will be fast by at least 20 Minutes. I have stopped it from checking >> the hardware, and I have made sure the ntpd daemon is starting, but >> no matter what it drifts. [...] > Sorry, if someone already put this, I appologize, but I am not about > to read through everyone of the replies right now ;) > > Here is how you fix your problem. [... edit /etc/crontab and ...] > On the line prior to the # at the end [...] > add the following line: > > 0 * * * * root ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com > > Once you have added that line, do the following: I hate to say it Richard, but this is a pretty bad solution to keeping time stable on any machine. It will work, but it is very hard on the software and system overall. ntpdate is a tool designed to make gross corrections to the clock: it simply sets the system clock to the appropriate time, no matter what. So, if you were off by a tenth of a second time jump. Off by ten seconds, time jumps. Off by an hour, time jumps. Now, for an "off by an hour" machine that is probably the right thing to do. For one that is almost right, though, this is a pretty bad solution -- software doesn't like time jumping about, and can react pretty badly.[1] Oh, and your suggestion uses a single server, so if ntp.ubuntu.com ever has the wrong time your machine will slavishly follow suit and have the wrong time as well.[2] Anyway, running the ntp daemon is much nicer. It has very good properties for keeping the clock in sync. It never jumps the clock, but rather corrects it carefully so nothing ever sees a sudden change. It pays serious attention to the properties of the clock in your computer, so that it can correct for things like drift and accuracy errors. It carefully checks the time coming in from the server and, if it is low quality, refuses to use it. Given multiple servers it even checks them against each other and rejects any that are not connected to reality. So, while your suggestion will work it will have a host of other problems. On a single user desktop you may never notice them, but it isn't a good thing to configure as a general rule. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] As in, you can see software fail to function at all, hang, serve outdated content, misuse caches, etc. [2] Yes, this /does/ happen in the real world. -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed Oct 25 11:58:08 2006 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:58:08 -0400 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610250040.49100.nixternal@ubuntu.com> References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610250040.49100.nixternal@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200610250758.08819.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 01:40, Richard Johnson wrote: >On Monday 23 October 2006 20:10, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: >> I have two machines running Dapper, one a desktop the other my laptop. >> >> The Desktop generally stays running all the time, for weeks on end. >> The problem is the time drifts horribly. In about 2 days the time will >> be fast by at least 20 Minutes. I have stopped it from checking the >> hardware, and I have made sure the ntpd daemon is starting, but no >> matter what it drifts. >> >> Has anyone else seen this, or does anyone have any ideas? >> >> -- >> See Ya' >> Howard Coles Jr. >> John 3:16! >> >> http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore > >Sorry, if someone already put this, I appologize, but I am not about to > read through everyone of the replies right now ;) > >Here is how you fix your problem. From the command line, you want to do > >sudo nano /etc/crontab > >Your crontab should look like the following, if you haven't made any > edits to it >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--------------------------------------------- # /etc/crontab: system-wide > crontab ># Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab' ># command to install the new version when you edit this file. ># This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs > do. > >SHELL=/bin/sh >PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > ># m h dom mon dow user command >17 * * * * root run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly >25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || >run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily >47 6 * * 7 root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || >run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly >52 6 1 * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || >run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly ># >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >------------------------------------------------- > >On the line prior to the # at the end, and the "52 6 1 * * root >test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly" line, > add the following line: > >0 * * * * root ntpdate -s ntp.ubuntu.com > >Once you have added that line, do the following: > >Control+X closes nano >Y for yes (to save the changes) >Enter saves the file > >What this does is run ntpdate -s (silent) against the ntp.ubuntu.com time >server every hour on the hour. My current offset since the last update 40 >minutes ago is > >25 Oct 00:39:21 ntpdate[28699]: adjust time server 82.211.81.145 >offset -0.244109 sec > >Hope this helps, Enjoy! This will of course, only work if ntpd isn't running, other wise you'll need to stop it first to release its file locks. Personally, ntpd Works For Me(TM) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 12:01:13 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:01:13 +0200 Subject: Removing mouse cursor from text feild In-Reply-To: <200610242014.23805.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <880dece00610230753x20eff5eal8394e051fb87ea69@mail.gmail.com> <200610242014.23805.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610250501t1b10c293rc85035f938c2725b@mail.gmail.com> On 25/10/06, Robert Tilley wrote: > On Monday 23 October 2006 10:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > How does one tell KDE to remove the visible mouse cursor when > > composing text? I often find that the mouse cursor obscures exactly > > the part that I'm trying to read. > > Look at the "unclutter" package. It causes the mouse cursor to disappear > after a user-defined time. (Two seconds on my box.) > > apt-get install unclutter > unclutter -idle 2 & > ' The ampersand runs it as a background process > > I often run the command as "unclutter -idle 1 &" so that the cursor disappears > soon after the mouse stops moving. > > Hope this helps, Bob > I'm pretty sure that this funcunality is built into KDE. At least, it used to be, in earlier 3.x releases. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html http://gmail-com.com/ From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Wed Oct 25 14:13:15 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:13:15 -0700 Subject: Audio file conversion Message-ID: <200610250713.15951.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> is there a program that will convert AAC files to MP3 ? From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Oct 25 15:32:02 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:32:02 +0100 Subject: No more giving password to sudo In-Reply-To: <453EB5B3.4010705@bellsouth.net> References: <453EB5B3.4010705@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <453F8372.5040200@blueyonder.co.uk> Steven Pasternak wrote: > Hi! I have Kubuntu 6.06 installed on 2 different machines, and on one I > somehow made it where I don't have to give a password for anything > anymore. That also includes kdesu and gksu. How do I do that on the > other? I already used visudo ( [username] ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL) and > ran all of the updates, but the second machine still nags me for a > password. On the first, I did install kde 3.5.5 from another repo, but > that is the only real difference I can think of. Also, all the universe > and multiverse stuff is set on both. I know it is insecure, but the > second computer is never connected to the internet anyway, so I really > don't care about that. Thanks! > -Steven > > In my /etc/sudoers I have: %adm ALL=(ALL) ALL so the members of the adm (admin) group can use sudo, but to make it so a user won't have to put in a password you should add them to the "sudo" group. Tez From janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi Wed Oct 25 16:25:00 2006 From: janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Janne_V=E4nttinen?=) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:25:00 +0300 Subject: no x-java-vm In-Reply-To: <453E9B91.6040309@optonline.net> References: <453E9B91.6040309@optonline.net> Message-ID: <453F8FDC.7080708@cs.helsinki.fi> anthony baldwin wrote: > Why can I not use application/x-java-vm chat? > I have java installed and enable in mozilla... > Other java applets work, as far as I know... > example: http://espanglishchat.com/ It works in my Firefox without a problem. With this little information I would be tempted to think whatever Java you're running doesn't fully support this particular applet. So if you're not running Sun Java, you might want to try it. It's in multiverse, I believe. > x-posted (as if you hadn´t guessed/como vocês não ja tinham adivinhado, > ne)... I don't know if cross-posting to two lists with different languages is a good idea, especially since 1) if spanish language answer arrives here, I (and I guess most of us here) have no idea what it says 2) when I reply to a mail on this list I would have to manually add the other list to addresses because of the reply-to header and because I am not very interested in spanish answers, I'm not likely to do it. -- - Janne From philsf at ufrj.br Wed Oct 25 16:49:13 2006 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:49:13 -0300 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610250936.02225.bg.branko@gmail.com> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610241556.45800.philsf@ufrj.br> <200610250936.02225.bg.branko@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610251349.15168.philsf@ufrj.br> Em Wednesday 25 October 2006 04:36, Branko Vukelic escreveu: > Usually, the notifier pops up > when the database is refreshed, but I don't like to use it anyway. It does, but the updater never pops up. If for any reason it can't update the dbs, it may be a while before it times out. Also note that it runs periodically. Next time this happens, issue a pgrep adept If this results anything other than nothing, that's probably your answer. Better yet, do this sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock It will give you the complete ID of the app locking dpkg's db. regards FF From bg.branko at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 18:23:33 2006 From: bg.branko at gmail.com (Branko Vukelic) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:23:33 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu instability... In-Reply-To: <200610251349.15168.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <200610232123.47526.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610250936.02225.bg.branko@gmail.com> <200610251349.15168.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <200610252023.33528.bg.branko@gmail.com> On Wednesday 25 October 2006. 18:49, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > It does, but the updater never pops up. If for any reason it can't update > the dbs, it may be a while before it times out. Also note that it runs > periodically. Next time this happens, issue a It's been a while since aptitude started to work okay again. I guess it was the adept or its offspring tripping. I will never touch anything along those lines again and hopefully things will just work as they should. > pgrep adept > > If this results anything other than nothing, that's probably your answer. > > Better yet, do this > > sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock Thanks for the tips. From jgomezdans at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 18:31:25 2006 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:31:25 +0200 Subject: Installing side by side with Win2k Pro Message-ID: <91d218430610251131s3f3d2a31jd606077601919c80@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I want to install Kubuntu on a spare disk on my machine at work. The disk hangs off /dev/hdd, and it can all be used for kubuntu purposes. However, I would like to ensure that the Win2k disks are not touched at all. Not the MBR or anything at all. Ideally, when I restart kubuntu and take out a floppy disk, Win2k should use its own bootloader to silently proceed with booting up.Ubiquity does not let you not install grub in the MBR (and doesn't let you do a boot disk). Does anyone know how to create a bootdisk for Kubuntu? Moreover (and this is probably more a win2k question), I would like Win 2k not to even recognise the Kubuntu disk (which is ext3 anyway), and that it doesn't try to format it, or do strange things with it. Is there something that can be done for this? Cheers! jose From nigel at rmk.co.il Wed Oct 25 18:41:04 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:41:04 +0200 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <453FAFC0.6040704@rmk.co.il> Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > I have two machines running Dapper, one a desktop the other my laptop. > > The Desktop generally stays running all the time, for weeks on end. The > problem is the time drifts horribly. In about 2 days the time will be fast > by at least 20 Minutes. I have stopped it from checking the hardware, and I > have made sure the ntpd daemon is starting, but no matter what it drifts. > > Has anyone else seen this, or does anyone have any ideas? > Try chrony: http://freshmeat.net/projects/chrony/ Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From nixternal at ubuntu.com Wed Oct 25 18:54:41 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:54:41 -0500 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <87iri8c007.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610250040.49100.nixternal@ubuntu.com> <87iri8c007.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200610251354.47850.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 02:44, Daniel Pittman wrote: [snip] > I hate to say it Richard, but this is a pretty bad solution to keeping > time stable on any machine. It will work, but it is very hard on the > software and system overall. What is so hard on it? It runs the simple command every hour to update the time. I have a million things going at once, and never notice ntpdate use any resources. As a matter of fact, I just used "top" and run it during the ntpdate process, and guess what? It doesn't even show up. This is the easy lazy way I will admit, but it works. The only fallback is if ntp.ubuntu.com goes down, then I will hear about it. > ntpdate is a tool designed to make gross corrections to the clock: it > simply sets the system clock to the appropriate time, no matter what. > > So, if you were off by a tenth of a second time jump. Off by ten > seconds, time jumps. Off by an hour, time jumps. > > Now, for an "off by an hour" machine that is probably the right thing to > do. For one that is almost right, though, this is a pretty bad > solution -- software doesn't like time jumping about, and can react > pretty badly.[1] I have been doing this for at least a good 5+ years, and never once had a problem. > Oh, and your suggestion uses a single server, so if ntp.ubuntu.com ever > has the wrong time your machine will slavishly follow suit and have the > wrong time as well.[2] That is a downfall, but a script can be created to fix that, if it ever becomes an issue. > > Anyway, running the ntp daemon is much nicer. It has very good > properties for keeping the clock in sync. It never jumps the clock, but > rather corrects it carefully so nothing ever sees a sudden change. Well, my setup is never more than 1 second off per hour. ntpd is constantly polling at regular intervals, every few seconds. If your clock is an hour off every hour, then ntpd would be the way to go, but if it is only a second off, who cares. > It pays serious attention to the properties of the clock in your > computer, so that it can correct for things like drift and accuracy > errors. This is done by constantly polling, if this was the case then setting ntpdate to run every 10 seconds would do the same thing. ntpd doesn't allow bursts which could of course cause issues, especially when using sudoers. However, if you have the issue where you clock is more than 15 or so minutes, ntpd will exit out anyways and stop running. ntpdate in my script won't. > It carefully checks the time coming in from the server and, if it is low > quality, refuses to use it. Given multiple servers it even checks them > against each other and rejects any that are not connected to reality. That it does. > > So, while your suggestion will work it will have a host of other > problems. On a single user desktop you may never notice them, but it > isn't a good thing to configure as a general rule. > > Regards, > Daniel > > Footnotes: > [1] As in, you can see software fail to function at all, hang, serve > outdated content, misuse caches, etc. > > [2] Yes, this /does/ happen in the real world. > > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ So, since my machines are my working desktops, all in good running order, my simple little addition is more than adequate. My servers that are constantly blasting away with mirrors, building packages, hosting and what not, yes I run ntpd on them. Plus I like the fact that each of my time updates are logged, so I can review the logs and seek discrepencies. So far the biggest update in my log in 2 years is, 3.3s. Most are under 1s. So, I would have to say my way isn't right or wrong, and your way isn't right or wrong. They both work, granted ntpd is preferred in a heavier environment, such as servers doing lots of work. ntpd is just one more service I don't need starting up as it is with the hundreds that already do. -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com .:http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you set kmplayer to use the mplayer backend, you can adjust the playback speed and everything else mplayer can do. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 20:17:00 2006 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Lord Sauron) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:17:00 -0700 Subject: Installing side by side with Win2k Pro In-Reply-To: <91d218430610251131s3f3d2a31jd606077601919c80@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430610251131s3f3d2a31jd606077601919c80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/25/06, Jose Gomez-Dans wrote: > Hi! > I want to install Kubuntu on a spare disk on my machine at work. The > disk hangs off /dev/hdd, and it can all be used for kubuntu purposes. > However, I would like to ensure that the Win2k disks are not touched > at all. Not the MBR or anything at all. Ideally, when I restart > kubuntu and take out a floppy disk, Win2k should use its own > bootloader to silently proceed with booting up.Ubiquity does not let > you not install grub in the MBR (and doesn't let you do a boot disk). > Does anyone know how to create a bootdisk for Kubuntu? Not off the top of my head. Grub can be configured to use a chainloader, which will use grub, and then if you select windows it will go to the windows bootloader. It does require overwriting the MBR however. I haven't done it before, but in theory it should work. > Moreover (and this is probably more a win2k question), I would like > Win 2k not to even recognise the Kubuntu disk (which is ext3 anyway), > and that it doesn't try to format it, or do strange things with it. Is > there something that can be done for this? It shouldn't try to mess with Kubuntu anyways. Unless you run a disk formater, but that whole application's job is to display ALL partitions anyways so then it's doing what you (indirectly) asked for. -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y ========= END GCv3.12 ======== From maye.co at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 20:41:08 2006 From: maye.co at gmail.com (.:M4y3.c0:.) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:41:08 -0500 Subject: Audio file conversion In-Reply-To: <200610250713.15951.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <200610250713.15951.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <836caaeb0610251341t7f98d636t6247c325f80bca70@mail.gmail.com> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37669 transKode script for amaroK MY On 10/25/06, Grumpy_Penguin wrote: > > is there a program that will convert AAC files to MP3 ? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bluetooth.html http://song-lirics.com/ From vayu at sklinks.com Wed Oct 25 22:46:32 2006 From: vayu at sklinks.com (Joseph Vella) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:46:32 -0700 Subject: Accessing Kmail folders from Windows? In-Reply-To: References: <91d218430610251131s3f3d2a31jd606077601919c80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <453FE948.6020809@sklinks.com> I need email help. I am using Thunderbird in a network situation. My laptop w Dapper keeps the data directory, an Ubuntu desktop machine and a Win XP desktop machine both point to the same directory over the network. I'd like to do the same thing only using Kmail. 1) I can't find anywhere in the Kmail settings to point the data directory to a different place. 2) Does anybody know of an email client I can run on Windows that can access the Kmail folders on my Dapper laptop? From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 26 00:46:29 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:46:29 -0400 Subject: Installing .deb files Message-ID: <45400565.30309@bellsouth.net> Hi! On Kubuntu 6.06, is there a half-descent way to install a .deb file? The menu from konqueror is kinda sad in that it doesn't try to use apt-get (or anything else) to resolve dependencies, just says they aren't there. Fedora has a simple tool that uses yum (basically apt for rpm) to download the missing packages. Does Kubuntu have something like that, or will they ever? Thanks! -Steven From hawkwind at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 00:56:25 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Cliff Wade) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:56:25 -0500 Subject: Installing .deb files In-Reply-To: <45400565.30309@bellsouth.net> References: <45400565.30309@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On 10/25/06, Steven Pasternak wrote: > > Hi! On Kubuntu 6.06, is there a half-descent way to install a .deb file? > The menu from konqueror is kinda sad in that it doesn't try to use > apt-get (or anything else) to resolve dependencies, just says they > aren't there. Fedora has a simple tool that uses yum (basically apt for > rpm) to download the missing packages. Does Kubuntu have something like > that, or will they ever? Thanks! > -Steven sudo dpkg -i file.deb That's the easiest way of course. You might even be able to do sudo apt-get install file.deb to cure the deps it needs. -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel at rimspace.net Thu Oct 26 01:28:09 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:28:09 +1000 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <453FAFC0.6040704@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <87lkn3ams6.fsf@rimspace.net> Nigel Ridley writes: > Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > >> I have two machines running Dapper, one a desktop the other my >> laptop. >> >> The Desktop generally stays running all the time, for weeks on end. >> The problem is the time drifts horribly. In about 2 days the time >> will be fast by at least 20 Minutes. I have stopped it from checking >> the hardware, and I have made sure the ntpd daemon is starting, but >> no matter what it drifts. >> >> Has anyone else seen this, or does anyone have any ideas? > > Try chrony: > http://freshmeat.net/projects/chrony/ I think you mean 'apt-get install chrony' as it is already packaged. ;) Anyway, that is simply another implementation of the NTP protocol, so if there is an issue preventing ntpd from working it is reasonable to suppose that chrony may suffer the same problem. Finding out /why/ ntpd isn't working before we make changes to the system is likely to be more helpful to Howard. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Thu Oct 26 01:26:13 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:26:13 +1000 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper References: <200610232010.37608.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610250040.49100.nixternal@ubuntu.com> <87iri8c007.fsf@rimspace.net> <200610251354.47850.nixternal@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <87pscfamve.fsf@rimspace.net> Richard Johnson writes: > On Wednesday 25 October 2006 02:44, Daniel Pittman wrote: > [snip] > >> I hate to say it Richard, but this is a pretty bad solution to keeping >> time stable on any machine. It will work, but it is very hard on the >> software and system overall. > > What is so hard on it? Because it causes the time to jump suddenly, both backward and forward, which causes confusion among other software packages that pay attention to the clock. > It runs the simple command every hour to update the time. I have a > million things going at once, and never notice ntpdate use any > resources. As a matter of fact, I just used "top" and run it during > the ntpdate process, and guess what? It doesn't even show up. No. Perhaps I wasn't clear: running ntpdate itself is not a problem. The problem is the way that ntpdate updates the system clock. [...] >> Now, for an "off by an hour" machine that is probably the right thing >> to do. For one that is almost right, though, this is a pretty bad >> solution -- software doesn't like time jumping about, and can react >> pretty badly.[1] > > I have been doing this for at least a good 5+ years, and never once > had a problem. Well, I am glad to hear that. I have been running systems for similar periods and I can assure you that this /does/ cause real problems, and that it can cause system failure in extreme enough cases. On a desktop where all the infrastructure (mail, web proxy, etc) is operated by a third party then, yes, perhaps you have nothing that would notice the clock changes.[1] >> Oh, and your suggestion uses a single server, so if ntp.ubuntu.com ever >> has the wrong time your machine will slavishly follow suit and have the >> wrong time as well.[2] > > That is a downfall, but a script can be created to fix that, if it > ever becomes an issue. I can't imagine a script, simple or otherwise, that is capable of determining if the time on ntp.ubuntu.com is incorrect. A human could certainly note the discrepancy and either run some script to fix it or alter your ntpdate calls, but that isn't automated in any particular fashion. >> Anyway, running the ntp daemon is much nicer. It has very good >> properties for keeping the clock in sync. It never jumps the clock, but >> rather corrects it carefully so nothing ever sees a sudden change. > > Well, my setup is never more than 1 second off per hour. ntpd is > constantly polling at regular intervals, every few seconds. If your > clock is an hour off every hour, then ntpd would be the way to go, but > if it is only a second off, who cares. Actually, the ntpd is configurable, and is not nearly so frequent as you suggest. During the initial startup it will make frequent requests to rapidly converge time with the upstream system, but beyond that it scales out to very infrequent queries. Secondly, if your clock is so inaccurate that it drifts by an hour per hour (stands still, perhaps?) then nothing is going to help you. That is sufficiently broken that nothing can fix it. For a drift of a second an hour or so, which isn't all that uncommon with the cheap clocks used in modern desktop computers, ntpd will correct for that very efficiently, transparently, and without any jumping at all. >> It pays serious attention to the properties of the clock in your >> computer, so that it can correct for things like drift and accuracy >> errors. > > This is done by constantly polling, if this was the case then setting > ntpdate to run every 10 seconds would do the same thing. Well, by a process of synchronising with your clock peers and running a very complex set of loops to ensure that the local clock and the remote clock converge, yes. Running ntpdate every ten seconds would *not* do the same thing. It would jump the time every ten second -- no correction to the rate of time, just a jump. > ntpd doesn't allow bursts which could of course cause issues, > especially when using sudoers. I presume by "bursts" you mean "jumps in time" -- and, yes, it could be an issue with sudo keys, or any other process that is dependent on a coherent view on time; there are many of those. > However, if you have the issue where you clock is more than 15 or so > minutes, ntpd will exit out anyways and stop running. ntpdate in my > script won't. If your clock is more than 15 minutes out then something is odd with your system. Perhaps it is half an hour out because your local clock is broken or something abused it. The recommended practice, by the way, is to fire off ntpdate or equivalent once at boot time, to perform any requisite gross correction, if your hardware requires it -- for example, hardware that lacks a real-time clock, or if you have a seriously broken clock. >> It carefully checks the time coming in from the server and, if it is >> low quality, refuses to use it. Given multiple servers it even >> checks them against each other and rejects any that are not connected >> to reality. > > That it does. >> >> So, while your suggestion will work it will have a host of other >> problems. On a single user desktop you may never notice them, but it >> isn't a good thing to configure as a general rule. > > So, since my machines are my working desktops, all in good running > order, my simple little addition is more than adequate. Well, I am glad you have something that meets your needs. > My servers that are constantly blasting away with mirrors, building > packages, hosting and what not, yes I run ntpd on them. Why? By your own statement running ntpdate would be more than adequate wouldn't it? > Plus I like the fact that each of my time updates are logged, so I can > review the logs and seek discrepencies. The logs kept by ntpd are significantly more useful and informative than the brief record of ntpdate corrections. They can show you the drift of your clock, of your peers, and even the rate of change of clock drift with a little work. > So far the biggest update in my log in 2 years is, 3.3s. Most are > under 1s. So, I would have to say my way isn't right or wrong, and > your way isn't right or wrong. They both work, Well, they both work assuming that you don't happen to run any software that behaves incorrectly in the presence of a jump in time, and you don't care about accurate time recording in logs, etc. > granted ntpd is preferred in a heavier environment, such as servers > doing lots of work. ntpd is preferred anywhere that accurate and effective time correction is desired. It is a vastly higher quality time management tool. The level of work being done by the machine is really not that relevant, except indirectly through the logs and software perhaps being more critical to people. > ntpd is just one more service I don't need starting up as it is with > the hundreds that already do. Fair enough. No one can compel you to maintain high quality timekeeping on your machine, or to notice the problems that jumps in time cause. Advising others to follow suit without explaining to them exactly what trade-off they are making seems somewhat unfair to the recipient of your advice, though. They, after all, may never have thought about any of this, so may not know what circumstances determine a need for good, skip-free time on the machine and which allow them to get away without it. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Well, your web browser might if you have a local cache enabled, but even then it will usually clean up after a reload of the page. -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Thu Oct 26 03:00:13 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:00:13 -0700 Subject: Audio file conversion In-Reply-To: <200610250713.15951.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <200610250713.15951.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <200610252000.13395.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Wednesday 25 October 2006 07:13, Grumpy_Penguin wrote: > is there a program that will convert AAC files to MP3 ? I think you are looking for hymn. Check out http://hymn-project.org/ for more info. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From ejviolet at yahoo.com Thu Oct 26 03:57:29 2006 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Installing side by side with Win2k Pro Message-ID: <20061026035729.82126.qmail@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> On 10/25/06, Jose Gomez-Dans wrote: >> Hi! >> I want to install Kubuntu on a spare disk on my machine at work. The >> disk hangs off /dev/hdd, and it can all be used for kubuntu purposes. >> However, I would like to ensure that the Win2k disks are not touched >> at all. Not the MBR or anything at all. Ideally, when I restart >> kubuntu and take out a floppy disk, Win2k should use its own >> bootloader to silently proceed with booting up.Ubiquity does not let >> you not install grub in the MBR (and doesn't let you do a boot disk). >> Does anyone know how to create a bootdisk for Kubuntu? >Not off the top of my head. Grub can be configured to use a >chainloader, which will use grub, and then if you select windows it >will go to the windows bootloader. It does require overwriting the >MBR however. I haven't done it before, but in theory it should >work. I've done it several times with several Distros with no problem. Linux will overwrite the MBR and will give the option of booting into either. When I finally got another computer and Moved Kubuntu to a separate machine, I ran "fdisk /mbr" from a Win98 install floppy and all was back as normal. >> Moreover (and this is probably more a win2k question), I would like >> Win 2k not to even recognise the Kubuntu disk (which is ext3 anyway), >> and that it doesn't try to format it, or do strange things with it. Is >> there something that can be done for this? >It shouldn't try to mess with Kubuntu anyways. Unless you run a disk >formater, but that whole application's job is to display ALL >partitions anyways so then it's doing what you (indirectly) asked for. Win2K will deny the existence of your ext3 partition. It won't even see it so you couldn't format it if you wanted to. YMMV Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 04:24:07 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:24:07 -0500 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper In-Reply-To: <87ods1c912.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> <200610242146.40175.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <87ods1c912.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200610252324.07704.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 24 October 2006 11:30 pm, Daniel Pittman wrote: > "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > > On Tuesday 24 October 2006 1:05 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > >> > Well, I'm kinda stumped. I would have thought that the ntp daemon > > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset > > jitter > > ========================================================================= > >===== *time.nist.gov .ACTS. 1 u 24 64 377 121.646 -1800.5 > > 390.095 +fiordland.ubunt 192.36.133.17 2 u 20 64 377 113.241 > > -1950.7 512.593 +Time1.Stupi.SE 192.36.143.152 2 u 28 64 177 > > 146.240 -1690.7 352.934 > > Which shows that your NTP server has achieved synchronisation. > Specifically, time.nist.gov has been selected as the active peer, with > fiordland.ubuntu.com and time1.stupi.se both remaining on the list as > suitable candidates in the event that time.nist.gov fails. > > So, your NTP server is correctly communicating with peers, but shows a > *huge* offset value -- 1800.5 seconds, 1950.78 seconds and 1690.7 > seconds away respectively. > > That is indicative of non-trivial problems, and ntpd will have trouble > correcting a time offset that big. > > One way to help that is to stop ntpd, run ntpdate to set your time > correctly from the peer and then restart ntpd. You should then show a > tiny offset and have ntpd keep your time in sync. > > > What timezone is your machine set to? CDT > Do you store UTC in the hardware? No. > Do you get messages about time source or clock errors in the kernel log? Not that I can find or have noticed. > Do you have another time adjustment tool installed such as chrony, > openntpd or adjtimex? If so, did you disable it? no other time source loaded, I don't even think I have another one installed. > > In short: NTP is working, but your timekeeping has significant enough > problems that ntpd alone is going to have trouble ever getting back into > sync. > > Take drastic action to correct that, then depend on ntpd, and things > should improve. Well, I did most of that. I even adjusted the /etc/init.d/ntpd script to stop and wait for ntpdate to run because I was having to stop and start the service so often to get the time right. And NO I'm not going to put ntpdate in the crontab, that's just not right when there's supposed to be a time sync utility that keeps time. (not in Daniel's email above, but another offshoot of this thread). There must have been an update to the ntpd package, because since I updated the ntpd script file and last restarted the daemon, it looks like time is staying in sync. root at home1:~# ps -ef | grep ntp ntp 26249 1 0 Oct21 ? 00:00:01 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u 114:114 IF I read the above right the daemon was last started on Oct 21st? However, the date and time show correct. Here's an excerpt of what I did to the /etc/init.d/ntp-server script: restart|force-reload) log_begin_msg "Stopping NTP server..." start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid log_end_msg $? sleep 5 ntpdate time.nist.gov sleep 2 log_begin_msg "Starting NTP server..." start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/ntpd -- -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u $UGID log_end_msg $? ;; I forget what it had, basically just some load lines calling the "stop" then "start" sectons with "sleep 2" in between. The interesting thing is that this daemon runs as "ntp" could that have something to do with it? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 04:39:39 2006 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Lord Sauron) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:39:39 -0700 Subject: Installing side by side with Win2k Pro In-Reply-To: <20061026035729.82126.qmail@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061026035729.82126.qmail@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 10/25/06, Earl Violet wrote: > On 10/25/06, Jose Gomez-Dans wrote: > >> Hi! > >> I want to install Kubuntu on a spare disk on my machine at work. > The > >> disk hangs off /dev/hdd, and it can all be used for kubuntu > purposes. > >> However, I would like to ensure that the Win2k disks are not > touched > >> at all. Not the MBR or anything at all. Ideally, when I restart > >> kubuntu and take out a floppy disk, Win2k should use its own > >> bootloader to silently proceed with booting up.Ubiquity does not > let > >> you not install grub in the MBR (and doesn't let you do a boot > disk). > >> Does anyone know how to create a bootdisk for Kubuntu? > > >Not off the top of my head. Grub can be configured to use a > >chainloader, which will use grub, and then if you select windows it > >will go to the windows bootloader. It does require overwriting the > >MBR however. I haven't done it before, but in theory it should > >work. > > I've done it several times with several Distros with no problem. > Linux will overwrite the MBR and will give the option of booting into > either. When I finally got another computer and Moved Kubuntu to a > separate machine, I ran "fdisk /mbr" from a Win98 install floppy and > all was back as normal. > > >> Moreover (and this is probably more a win2k question), I would > like > >> Win 2k not to even recognise the Kubuntu disk (which is ext3 > anyway), > >> and that it doesn't try to format it, or do strange things with > it. Is > >> there something that can be done for this? > > >It shouldn't try to mess with Kubuntu anyways. Unless you run a > disk > >formater, but that whole application's job is to display ALL > >partitions anyways so then it's doing what you (indirectly) asked > for. > > Win2K will deny the existence of your ext3 partition. It won't even > see it so you couldn't format it if you wanted to. WinXP (which is exactly like 2K in most respects) saw the ext3 parition. -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y ========= END GCv3.12 ======== From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 26 04:56:57 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:56:57 -0400 Subject: Installing .deb files In-Reply-To: References: <45400565.30309@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <45404019.9000806@bellsouth.net> Cliff Wade wrote: > > > On 10/25/06, *Steven Pasternak* > wrote: > > Hi! On Kubuntu 6.06, is there a half-descent way to install a .deb > file? > The menu from konqueror is kinda sad in that it doesn't try to use > apt-get (or anything else) to resolve dependencies, just says they > aren't there. Fedora has a simple tool that uses yum (basically > apt for > rpm) to download the missing packages. Does Kubuntu have something > like > that, or will they ever? Thanks! > -Steven > > > > sudo dpkg -i file.deb > > That's the easiest way of course. You might even be able to do sudo > apt-get install file.deb to cure the deps it needs. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > With kind regards, > > Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) > Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 > http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org > http://urpmi-addmedia.org > IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net ): #LFD > #Kubuntu #Ulteo I know that, I meant a graphical tool, like just clicking on it and having a nice gui install it and all its dependencies. 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URL: From karlok at fastmail.fm Thu Oct 26 05:21:55 2006 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:21:55 -0700 Subject: Installing side by side with Win2k Pro In-Reply-To: <91d218430610251131s3f3d2a31jd606077601919c80@mail.gmail.com> References: <91d218430610251131s3f3d2a31jd606077601919c80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <454045F3.2020603@fastmail.fm> Jose Gomez-Dans wrote: > Hi! > I want to install Kubuntu on a spare disk on my machine at work. The > disk hangs off /dev/hdd, and it can all be used for kubuntu purposes. > However, I would like to ensure that the Win2k disks are not touched > at all. Not the MBR or anything at all. Ideally, when I restart > kubuntu and take out a floppy disk, Win2k should use its own > bootloader to silently proceed with booting up.Ubiquity does not let > you not install grub in the MBR (and doesn't let you do a boot disk). > Does anyone know how to create a bootdisk for Kubuntu? > > Moreover (and this is probably more a win2k question), I would like > Win 2k not to even recognise the Kubuntu disk (which is ext3 anyway), > and that it doesn't try to format it, or do strange things with it. Is > there something that can be done for this? > > Cheers! > jose > > The alternate install CD gives you the option of installing grub to a floppy, leaving the MBR untouched. From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 26 05:42:23 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:42:23 +1300 Subject: Installing .deb files In-Reply-To: <45404019.9000806@bellsouth.net> References: <45400565.30309@bellsouth.net> <45404019.9000806@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20061026184223.554ad1d9@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:56:57 -0400 Steven Pasternak wrote: > I know that, I meant a graphical tool, like just clicking on it and > having a nice gui install it and all its dependencies. > Not a kde tool but by far the best of the gui installers synaptic. It will probably install a few gnome bits but it is a good tool David -- *~~~Linux user #215413 homepages http://obsidion.kwister.com http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~obsidion From daniel at rimspace.net Thu Oct 26 06:01:06 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:01:06 +1000 Subject: problem with Time in Dapper References: <200610240144.k9O1incu026149@mail6.iserv.net> <200610242146.40175.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <87ods1c912.fsf@rimspace.net> <200610252324.07704.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <871wovaa59.fsf@rimspace.net> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > On Tuesday 24 October 2006 11:30 pm, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: >> > On Tuesday 24 October 2006 1:05 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> >> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > >> >> > Well, I'm kinda stumped. I would have thought that the ntp daemon >> > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset >> > jitter >> > ========================================================================= >> >===== *time.nist.gov .ACTS. 1 u 24 64 377 121.646 -1800.5 >> > 390.095 +fiordland.ubunt 192.36.133.17 2 u 20 64 377 113.241 >> > -1950.7 512.593 +Time1.Stupi.SE 192.36.143.152 2 u 28 64 177 >> > 146.240 -1690.7 352.934 >> >> Which shows that your NTP server has achieved synchronisation. [...] >> Do you get messages about time source or clock errors in the kernel log? > > Not that I can find or have noticed. [...] > There must have been an update to the ntpd package, because since I > updated the ntpd script file and last restarted the daemon, it looks > like time is staying in sync. OK, good. It could be that all it took was that one-shot reset, or it could be that whatever was causing problems with timekeeping is not an issue right now. > I forget what it had, basically just some load lines calling the > "stop" then "start" sectons with "sleep 2" in between. The > interesting thing is that this daemon runs as "ntp" could that have > something to do with it? No, running as a non-privileged user is a security feature with no real bearing on the stability of the NTP software.[1] The one last thing that could be responsible is your time keeping hardware. If you are running a multi-CPU AMD64 system, especially with an NVIDIA chipset on the motherboard, you could be running into one of the semi-regular bugs that seem to bedevel that hardware. Routine advice on the linux-kernel mailing list includes: use idle=poll (ouch!) turn off ACPI force use of the PIT/PM timer/HPET buy a better motherboard I can't go into much more detail on that specific issue as I am not hurt by it[2] so I never learned the details of resolving it. Anyway, if your time continues to drift or you find that NTP is not able to keep up you might consider investigating that and possibly taking your issue to the kernel mailing list for help from some real experts on that front. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Unless you did this yourself, in which case you would need check that you had granted access to all the resources ntpd needed. :) [2] Thankfully. I have a single core AMD64/NVIDIA system and am now not a happy camper, but seem to be OK. :/ -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From jgomezdans at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 07:27:04 2006 From: jgomezdans at gmail.com (Jose Gomez-Dans) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:27:04 +0200 Subject: Installing side by side with Win2k Pro In-Reply-To: <20061026035729.82126.qmail@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061026035729.82126.qmail@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <91d218430610260027h2116f8c1x302a87b554ef05ad@mail.gmail.com> Hi Earl, On 10/26/06, Earl Violet wrote: > I've done it several times with several Distros with no problem. > Linux will overwrite the MBR and will give the option of booting into > either. When I finally got another computer and Moved Kubuntu to a > separate machine, I ran "fdisk /mbr" from a Win98 install floppy and > all was back as normal. The MBR was hosed. When Win2k found a new disk (hda->C:, hdb->E, hdc->D/CDROM, hdd->new disk), it changed the names of the primary slave and secondary master (my E: drive in Windows to D:, and my CD-ROM to F:). In the process, the MBR took a gander down memory lane. I have now removed the new kubuntu disk, and haven't tried with it on yet, but I fear that I might run into trouble with win2k reassigning drive names on the fly. That's what I meant by me wanting to have a setup such that windows ignores the extra disk in all senses. > Win2K will deny the existence of your ext3 partition. It won't even > see it so you couldn't format it if you wanted to. That was my previous experience. However, it has rearranged drive names at will when a new disk was inserted. I guess this message has already turned into a Windows question, and I veered off-topic. Apologies for that! Jose From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Thu Oct 26 14:33:29 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:33:29 -0700 Subject: RPM question Message-ID: <200610260733.29132.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> how do I install an rpm based program on a deb based distro From buggerone at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 15:02:54 2006 From: buggerone at gmail.com (JJL) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:02:54 +0200 Subject: RPM question In-Reply-To: <200610260733.29132.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <200610260733.29132.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: Hello, 2006/10/26, Grumpy_Penguin : > > how do I install an rpm based program on a deb based distro Look at the Alien tool : http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/alien Regards JJL -- http://kubuntu.free.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The problem is this COULD be illegal and you take full personal responsibility if you do. There is a page on the Kubuntu site that explains about installing restricted modules, and it has all the cautions and warnings. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I tried Edgy on a Thinkpad T40 and it seems to do ok with everything except the Cisco Aironet Wireless card. (of course that didn't work in dapper either so . . . ) The one last thing that could be responsible is your time keeping > hardware. If you are running a multi-CPU AMD64 system, especially with > an NVIDIA chipset on the motherboard, you could be running into one of > the semi-regular bugs that seem to bedevel that hardware. > > Routine advice on the linux-kernel mailing list includes: > > use idle=poll (ouch!) > turn off ACPI > force use of the PIT/PM timer/HPET > buy a better motherboard > > I can't go into much more detail on that specific issue as I am not hurt > by it[2] so I never learned the details of resolving it. I am running an ASUS Motherboard, but with a x86 not 64bit AMD processor, and an NVIDIA Chipset. That's why I turned off Hardware checking in the ntp.conf file. Not only that but this issue has been plaguing me since I put Kubuntu on it some time ago. Anyway, if your time continues to drift or you find that NTP is not able > to keep up you might consider investigating that and possibly taking > your issue to the kernel mailing list for help from some real experts on > that front. I'll probably reply back here after I upgrade to Edgy and see what happens. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When Win2k found a new disk (hda->C:, hdb->E, > hdc->D/CDROM, hdd->new disk), it changed the names of the primary > slave and secondary master (my E: drive in Windows to D:, and my > CD-ROM to F:). In the process, the MBR took a gander down memory lane. > > I have now removed the new kubuntu disk, and haven't tried with it on > yet, but I fear that I might run into trouble with win2k reassigning > drive names on the fly. That's what I meant by me wanting to have a > setup such that windows ignores the extra disk in all senses. > > > Win2K will deny the existence of your ext3 partition. It won't even > > see it so you couldn't format it if you wanted to. > > That was my previous experience. However, it has rearranged drive > names at will when a new disk was inserted. > > I guess this message has already turned into a Windows question, and > I veered off-topic. Apologies for that! One could argue that this is about Kubuntu interaction with Windows... -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y ========= END GCv3.12 ======== From maillist at madmaik.de Thu Oct 26 21:16:42 2006 From: maillist at madmaik.de (Maik 'MaDMaik' Danstedt) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:16:42 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu does not install Message-ID: <200610262316.42645.maillist@madmaik.de> Hi, my System is an AMD Sempron AM2 on a NVidia 570 chipset with 1GB RAM, NVidia 6200 GPU, IDE DVD-ROM and SATA-HDD. I downloaded Kubuntu 6.06-i386 and -amd64 as well as 6.10-amd64 ISOs and tried to install from there. I tried to use the options apci=off as well as noapic, nolapic and turning off USB (according to the help). The install always hangs at the same point when the system put out the message that it detected my OHCI controllers. Any ideas? rgds, Maik -- BOFH Excuse #319: Your computer hasn't been returning all the bits it gets from the Internet. From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 22:20:46 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:20:46 +0200 Subject: Replying in Kmail Message-ID: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> I recieve email to several POP3 accounts and retrieve them all with Kmail. How can I set Kmail so that when I reply to a meesage, the From address will automatically be the address to which the letter was addressed? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/rss.html http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_is_a_router.html From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 26 22:26:49 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:26:49 -0400 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy Message-ID: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> Hi! Is there an easy way to upgrade from dapper 6.06 to edgy 6.10 without downloading the cd. I am no linux newbie, but I am somewhat a debian newb. I somehow recall being able to replace 'dapper' with 'edgy' (actually was 'sarge' to 'etch' when I last tried) and running some apt command. Is that safe/recommended or should I just use an installer? Thanks! -Steven From rashid786 at gmail.com Thu Oct 26 22:55:41 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (rashid) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:55:41 +0100 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200610262355.42327.rashid786@gmail.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 23:26, Steven Pasternak wrote: > Hi! Is there an easy way to upgrade from dapper 6.06 to edgy 6.10 > without downloading the cd. I am no linux newbie, but I am somewhat a > debian newb. I somehow recall being able to replace 'dapper' with 'edgy' > (actually was 'sarge' to 'etch' when I last tried) and running some apt > command. Is that safe/recommended or should I just use an installer? > Thanks! -Steven Hi Steve Yep, you can replace all incidences of "dapper" in your /etc/apt/sources.list with "edgy" then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade An easy way to do that is to paste the following into a terminal window: sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list Hope that helps! -Rashid -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From philsf at ufrj.br Thu Oct 26 23:06:17 2006 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:06:17 -0300 Subject: Replying in Kmail In-Reply-To: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610262006.17760.philsf@ufrj.br> Em Thursday 26 October 2006 19:20, Dotan Cohen escreveu: > I recieve email to several POP3 accounts and retrieve them all with > Kmail. How can I set Kmail so that when I reply to a meesage, the From > address will automatically be the address to which the letter was > addressed? shouldn't it be automatic? If the email was sent to an existing identity, it will be the choosen one when replying. At least, this is what happens here. regards FF From nixternal at ubuntu.com Thu Oct 26 23:16:16 2006 From: nixternal at ubuntu.com (Richard Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:16:16 -0500 Subject: Replying in Kmail In-Reply-To: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610261816.16798.nixternal@ubuntu.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 17:20, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I recieve email to several POP3 accounts and retrieve them all with > Kmail. How can I set Kmail so that when I reply to a meesage, the From > address will automatically be the address to which the letter was > addressed? > > Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/rss.html > http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_is_a_router.html Setup seperate identities in KMail for each one of the accounts you use. In KMail or Kontact, goto "Settings -> Configure KMail -> Identities" -- .:Richard Johnson .:nixternal at ubuntu.com .:ubuntu.com .:kubuntu.com .:edubuntu.com .:xubuntu.com .:http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is that safe/recommended or should I just use an installer? > > Thanks! -Steven > > Hi Steve > > Yep, you can replace all incidences of "dapper" in your > /etc/apt/sources.list > with "edgy" then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade > > An easy way to do that is to paste the following into a terminal window: > > sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list > > Hope that helps! > > -Rashid https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade You need to do quite a bit more than mentioned above. If you read and follow that URL there you should be pretty good to go. -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 02:54:30 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:54:30 -0500 Subject: freecontrib.org Message-ID: <200610262154.30386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Anyone know what happened? It was there last night, and now its not. Weird. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 02:59:38 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:59:38 -0500 Subject: Replying in Kmail In-Reply-To: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610262159.38618.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 5:20 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I recieve email to several POP3 accounts and retrieve them all with > Kmail. How can I set Kmail so that when I reply to a meesage, the From > address will automatically be the address to which the letter was > addressed? Simple, for each POP3 account create a folder off of Local folders for each account. Then, Set the properties for those folders (after you have created the IDs as Richard Johns suggested) with the the following fields: Name: (According to the Account) Check Act on new/unread mail if you want, and if you are using GMail as I do you'll want to check, "Keep replies in this folder" (because GMail doesn't send the message back through to you from a list like a normal POP3 account would). Show Column: as desired. Sender identity: (According to the Account) This makes sure that when you right click or whatever, and reply, the id in the From field is the one you intended. Because, NO its not automatic, unless you specify otherwise Kmail will use the default ID. I too use multiple POP3 accounts in KMail / Kontact. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From tan.august at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 03:47:11 2006 From: tan.august at gmail.com (august tan) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:47:11 +0800 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610262154.30386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610262154.30386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: ？？？What was happened? 2006/10/27, Howard Coles Jr. : > > Anyone know what happened? It was there last night, and now its not. > > Weird. > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- August Tan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Fri Oct 27 05:39:27 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:39:27 -0700 Subject: Replying in Kmail In-Reply-To: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610262239.28026.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Thursday 26 October 2006 15:20, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I recieve email to several POP3 accounts and retrieve them all with > Kmail. How can I set Kmail so that when I reply to a meesage, the From > address will automatically be the address to which the letter was > addressed? If you filter them into folders, you can set a reply from there. Otherwise, you might be able to set an outgoing filter to do it for you. I use the first way, just filter the mail into different directories. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Fri Oct 27 05:47:26 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:47:26 -0700 Subject: Replying in Kmail In-Reply-To: <200610262239.28026.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> References: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> <200610262239.28026.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200610262247.26683.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Thursday 26 October 2006 22:39, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 15:20, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I recieve email to several POP3 accounts and retrieve them all with > > Kmail. How can I set Kmail so that when I reply to a meesage, the From > > address will automatically be the address to which the letter was > > addressed? > > If you filter them into folders, you can set a reply from there. Otherwise, > you might be able to set an outgoing filter to do it for you. I use the > first way, just filter the mail into different directories. > > Rob look at the very top of the page when you compose mail ..see the line labeled identity ...click on that to display all your sending identity's ..select the one you want to use > > -- > Mountlake Terrace, WA From ian at themagictree.co.uk Fri Oct 27 06:47:22 2006 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:47:22 +0100 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) Message-ID: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? -- Ian From kamping_kaiser at internode.on.net Fri Oct 27 07:03:40 2006 From: kamping_kaiser at internode.on.net (Karl Goetz) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:33:40 +0930 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> Message-ID: <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> Ian Rose wrote: > For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing > to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders > ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from > seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? > > its a 'feature'. kk -- Karl Goetz The buck stops there -> $ Australian Ubuntu users team - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam From hawkwind at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 07:20:06 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Cliff Wade) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 02:20:06 -0500 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> Message-ID: On 10/27/06, Karl Goetz wrote: > > Ian Rose wrote: > > For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing > > to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders > > ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from > > seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? > > > > > its a 'feature'. > kk Edit the /.hidden file and you can remove from that file whichever directories you want to be seen. -- > Karl Goetz > The buck stops there -> $ > Australian Ubuntu users team - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 27 07:32:48 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:32:48 +1300 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <20061027203248.4a8bf410@tscii> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:33:40 +0930 Karl Goetz wrote: > Ian Rose wrote: > > For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, > > browsing to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The > > other folders ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug > > prevents me from seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or > > know of a fix? > > > > > its a 'feature'. > kk > The culprit is a .hidden file, personally I think it is a silly feature as it prevents you browsing for a helper app that isn't in the kmenu for instance. David From simon.oosthoek at ti-wmc.nl Fri Oct 27 07:56:08 2006 From: simon.oosthoek at ti-wmc.nl (Simon Oosthoek) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:56:08 +0200 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Cliff Wade wrote: > On 10/27/06, Karl Goetz wrote: >> >> Ian Rose wrote: >> > For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing >> > to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders >> > ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from >> > seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? >> > >> > >> its a 'feature'. >> kk > > > > Edit the /.hidden file and you can remove from that file whichever > directories you want to be seen. > > I would definately say this is a bug in the mind that thought this up, even an experienced user can get very confused by this and if the .hidden file contains directories that are to be hidden, it will break whenever the FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard) changes again, unless the .hidden file is updated, which it won't be if the user changed it. I'd advise to file a bugreport! /Simon From daniel at rimspace.net Fri Oct 27 07:51:37 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:51:37 +1000 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> Message-ID: <87hcxq2o3a.fsf@rimspace.net> Ian Rose writes: > For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, > browsing to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The > other folders ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug > prevents me from seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or > know of a fix? It is, as noted, a feature. The '.hidden' files in the root and /media are responsible for the list of hidden areas. You can find the actual files, as the .hidden ones are symlinks, in /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-* Season to taste; they are standard configuration files, so should do the right thing no matter what you do to them. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 08:11:46 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:11:46 +0200 Subject: Replying in Kmail In-Reply-To: <200610262247.26683.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <880dece00610261520p1185fba5yb5ae5e9249d4feee@mail.gmail.com> <200610262239.28026.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <200610262247.26683.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <880dece00610270111w32d67342h67f1d65cd7e05c3b@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the advice about adding multiple identities. The problem is that I have hundreds of identities and they all get received at the same pop3 box. To cut down on spam, I use a different disposable email address each time I give out my address. So, for instance, I may give one company the address dotan_3924 at blahblahblah.com and another dotan_8223 at blahblahblah.com and several hundred others. Obviously, I cannot create an account for each of these identities. Has Kmail not a way of automatically setting the From address according to the original messages' To address, like Thunderbird? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html http://technology-sleuth.com/question/what_is_a_cellphone.html From ian at themagictree.co.uk Fri Oct 27 09:04:10 2006 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:04:10 +0100 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4541CB8A.5090002@themagictree.co.uk> Simon Oosthoek wrote: > Cliff Wade wrote: > >> On 10/27/06, Karl Goetz wrote: >> >>> Ian Rose wrote: >>> >>>> For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing >>>> to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders >>>> ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from >>>> seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> its a 'feature'. >>> kk >>> >> >> Edit the /.hidden file and you can remove from that file whichever >> directories you want to be seen. >> >> >> > > I would definately say this is a bug in the mind that thought this up, > even an experienced user can get very confused by this and if the > .hidden file contains directories that are to be hidden, it will break > whenever the FHS (filesystem hierarchy standard) changes again, unless > the .hidden file is updated, which it won't be if the user changed it. > > I'd advise to file a bugreport! > > /Simon > > > Many thanks to all for your replies on this. I am however utterly astonished that someone has decided to do this! I've been using linux for four or five years and it threw me. I would imagine new converts trying to follow some of the Ubuntu Wiki articles are going to be even worse off! /me pops off to file a bug report... -- Ian From paul at basilisk.ukfsn.org Fri Oct 27 09:19:50 2006 From: paul at basilisk.ukfsn.org (Paul Worrall) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:19:50 +0100 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> Message-ID: <200610271019.51442.paul@basilisk.ukfsn.org> On Friday 27 October 2006 07:47, Ian Rose wrote: > For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing > to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders > ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from > seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? If a folder contains a file called ".hidden", and that file contains a list of folder or file names, then konqueror treats those files/folders as hidden also. In edgy, there is such a file in the root folder (its actually a symlink to /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root). You can either choose View -> Show Hidden Files, or edit/delete the above file. -- Paul From simon.oosthoek at ti-wmc.nl Fri Oct 27 09:48:19 2006 From: simon.oosthoek at ti-wmc.nl (Simon Oosthoek) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:48:19 +0200 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <4541CB8A.5090002@themagictree.co.uk> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> <4541CB8A.5090002@themagictree.co.uk> Message-ID: Ian Rose wrote: > Simon Oosthoek wrote: >> Cliff Wade wrote: >> >>> On 10/27/06, Karl Goetz wrote: >>> >>>> Ian Rose wrote: >>>> >>>>> For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing >>>>> to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders >>>>> ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from >>>>> seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? >>>>> > Many thanks to all for your replies on this. I am however utterly > astonished that someone has decided to do this! I've been using linux > for four or five years and it threw me. I would imagine new converts > trying to follow some of the Ubuntu Wiki articles are going to be even > worse off! > > /me pops off to file a bug report... > Perhaps you don't need a new one: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/67314 /Simon From ian at themagictree.co.uk Fri Oct 27 10:02:07 2006 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:02:07 +0100 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <4541AF4C.3030307@internode.on.net> <4541CB8A.5090002@themagictree.co.uk> Message-ID: <4541D91F.9030302@themagictree.co.uk> Simon Oosthoek wrote: > Ian Rose wrote: > >> Simon Oosthoek wrote: >> >>> Cliff Wade wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 10/27/06, Karl Goetz wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ian Rose wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing >>>>>> to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders >>>>>> ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from >>>>>> seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? >>>>>> >>>>>> > > >> Many thanks to all for your replies on this. I am however utterly >> astonished that someone has decided to do this! I've been using linux >> for four or five years and it threw me. I would imagine new converts >> trying to follow some of the Ubuntu Wiki articles are going to be even >> worse off! >> >> /me pops off to file a bug report... >> >> > > Perhaps you don't need a new one: > > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/67314 > > /Simon > > > Thanks for that - I had attached to the end of: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/68013 I've now marked 68013 as a duplicate of 67314, as the problem lies in the kubuntu-default-settings package rather than kdebase. -- Ian From rashid786 at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 10:07:29 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Rashid ul Islam) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:07:29 +0100 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610262355.42327.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: <14cf5ea70610270307w1b365f60s846f76e98ec13394@mail.gmail.com> On 27/10/06, Cliff Wade wrote: > > > > On 10/26/06, rashid wrote: > > > > On Thursday 26 October 2006 23:26, Steven Pasternak wrote: > > > Hi! Is there an easy way to upgrade from dapper 6.06 to edgy 6.10 > > > without downloading the cd. I am no linux newbie, but I am somewhat a > > > debian newb. I somehow recall being able to replace 'dapper' with > > 'edgy' > > > (actually was 'sarge' to 'etch' when I last tried) and running some > > apt > > > command. Is that safe/recommended or should I just use an installer? > > > Thanks! -Steven > > > > Hi Steve > > > > Yep, you can replace all incidences of "dapper" in your > > /etc/apt/sources.list > > with "edgy" then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade > > > > An easy way to do that is to paste the following into a terminal window: > > > > sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > -Rashid > > > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade > > You need to do quite a bit more than mentioned above. If you read and > follow that URL there you should be pretty good to go. > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > With kind regards, > > Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) > Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 > http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org > http://urpmi-addmedia.org > IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Cliff is right. Its probably better to follow the wiki, sorry, I should linked to that :) I found that I already had the other packages installed, and so all I needed to do was that, (although I've actually changed my mind now after testing the LiveCD. I think I prefer the stability of Dapper, seeing as Edgy is giving me and a lot of other users problem. I'll wait until Feisty Fawn :D ) -Rashid -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rashid786 at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 10:29:03 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (rashid) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:29:03 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 only loads X in Failsafe graphics mode Message-ID: <200610271129.04043.rashid786@gmail.com> Hi all, I'm completely new to mailing lists so forgive me if I do something wrong. (I usually post on web forums, using KMail to post feels weird) I downloaded the Kubuntu Edgy ISO for x86 and booted from it. The boot splash and everything seemed to work fine, however, when booting from my PCI nvidia FX5500, instead of loading X, it just goes to a command line on tty1 or something like that. When I type startx it just gives an error. So I changed to my integrated intel on board graphics chipset, and this time it gives me an X cursor, then changes to a nice KDE white mouse pointer...and then the screen goes black and I can't do ANYTHING. Not even a commandline. However, I can boot to my intel chipset in failsafe mode, though everything is painfully slow and i can barely manage to load Konqueror etc I'm assuming this is a problem with my drivers...I heard that I should do a sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-all however I can't do that from a LiveCD, and if I install fully and it doesn't work...well, I'll be in trouble :P Thanks for any help. P.S. How do I get the >>> -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users At the bottom of my posts? Do I just paste it in there, or does the mailing list automatically do it? -Rashid From reb68 at bellsouth.net Fri Oct 27 13:34:39 2006 From: reb68 at bellsouth.net (Richard E. Barmann) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:34:39 -0400 Subject: Grub Message-ID: <200610270934.40299.reb68@bellsouth.net> I have had to reinstall Windows after setting up the dual boot with Kubuntu (linux) . Since then I have not been able to get the Windows to boot without using "Super Grub". This is what I have at this time--- default 4 timeout 30 #hiddenmenu color cyan/blue white/blue title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-386 root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-386 savedefault boot title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-386 (recovery mode) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-386 boot title Ubuntu, memtest86+ root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin boot ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian # ones. #title Microsoft Windows XP Professional #root (hd1,0) #map (hd1)(hd0) #map (hd0)(hd1) #savedefault #makeactive #chainloader +1 # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS # on /dev/hdb1 title Microsoft Windows XP Professional root (hd1,0) map (hd0)(hd1) map (hd1)(hd0) savedefault makeactive chainloader +1 I have Linux on Master hda (80Gig) and Windows on Slave hdb (10Gig). Windows is one partition of about 9.? Gig and a second of 650M. I have the both flaged as ntfs. When trying to boot Windows This is what I get: ---- root (hd1,0) Filesystem type unknown, partition Type 0x7 map (hd0)(hd1) Error 11: unrecognized device string --- I appreciate anyone that can straighten me out on this. I had it working at one time but lost it. Thank you, Dick -- http://georgiatrailriders.com http://www.barmannsbar.com http://metroironworks.com For the worlds smallest political quiz: http://eastmetrolp.com From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 27 12:37:57 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:37:57 -0300 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <87hcxq2o3a.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <56b914-pb9.ln1@news.pointerstop.ca> Daniel Pittman wrote: > Ian Rose writes: > >> For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, >> browsing to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The >> other folders ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug >> prevents me from seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or >> know of a fix? > > It is, as noted, a feature. The '.hidden' files in the root and /media > are responsible for the list of hidden areas. > > You can find the actual files, as the .hidden ones are symlinks, in > /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-* > > Season to taste; they are standard configuration files, so should do the > right thing no matter what you do to them. That is so ... "edgy", I guess. I never even noticed it before, which shows how much I need to be in / -- derek From maillist at madmaik.de Fri Oct 27 15:39:05 2006 From: maillist at madmaik.de (Maik 'MaDMaik' Danstedt) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:39:05 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu does not install Message-ID: <200610271739.05853.maillist@madmaik.de> Hi, my System is an AMD Sempron AM2 on a NVidia 570 chipset with 1GB RAM, NVidia 6200 GPU, IDE DVD-ROM and SATA-HDD. I downloaded Kubuntu 6.06-i386 and -amd64 as well as 6.10-amd64 ISOs and tried to install from there. I tried to use the options apci=off as well as noapic, nolapic and turning off USB (according to the help). The install always hangs at the same point when the system put out the message that it detected my OHCI controllers. Any ideas? rgds, Maik -- BOFH Excuse #319: Your computer hasn't been returning all the bits it gets from the Internet. From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 17:10:16 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 11:10:16 -0600 Subject: kioslave question Message-ID: <256f4e900610271010g67b9d8a1p76704c5c0cdbbe66@mail.gmail.com> I use subversion repositories for lots of things. I have installed the subversion kioslave (kdesdk-kio-plugins + kdesdk + kfile-plugins all seem to be required, although the latter two were not installed automatically for some reason). So, having done that, where do I find some documentation on actually using the svn kioslave? I naively pointed konq at a a repository (svn://127.0.0.1/home/n7dr/svn/kdc-repos, for example), but nothing useful happened. And since I installed it at the same time, where is the docuementation for kfile-plugins, which looks like it might be a useful goodie? Sorry to be asking such stupid questions. The Konq handbook doesn't seem to be any help at all. Maybe there's some other place I should be looking? From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 17:23:40 2006 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Lord Sauron) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:23:40 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu does not install In-Reply-To: <200610271739.05853.maillist@madmaik.de> References: <200610271739.05853.maillist@madmaik.de> Message-ID: On 10/27/06, Maik 'MaDMaik' Danstedt wrote: > Hi, > > my System is an > AMD Sempron AM2 on a NVidia 570 chipset with 1GB RAM, NVidia 6200 GPU, > IDE DVD-ROM and SATA-HDD. > > I downloaded Kubuntu 6.06-i386 and -amd64 as well as 6.10-amd64 ISOs > and tried to install from there. > I tried to use the options apci=off as well as noapic, nolapic and > turning off USB (according to the help). > The install always hangs at the same point when the system put out the > message that it detected my OHCI controllers. > > Any ideas? maybe your ohci controllers are weird. do you have a oddball mouse or keyboard? I know that my saitek eclipse will occassionally give a application grief because it identifies itself as a "saitek usb gaming keyboard" and not a "universal usb keyboard" device or whatever. -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y ========= END GCv3.12 ======== From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Oct 27 18:00:58 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:00:58 +0200 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <200610271019.51442.paul@basilisk.ukfsn.org> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <200610271019.51442.paul@basilisk.ukfsn.org> Message-ID: <4542495A.3020408@rmk.co.il> Paul Worrall wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2006 07:47, Ian Rose wrote: >> For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing >> to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders >> ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from >> seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? > > If a folder contains a file called ".hidden", and that file contains a list of > folder or file names, then konqueror treats those files/folders as hidden > also. In edgy, there is such a file in the root folder (its actually a > symlink to /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root). You can either choose > View -> Show Hidden Files, or edit/delete the above file. > I found it rather frustrating that the directories under / did not show up in the side pane (except for 'Root Folder', home and media) even with "Show hidden files' they were only visible in the main window and not in the side pane as a 'tree' that I was used to. So, I went to /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root and renamed it to hidden-rootOLD (I opened konq using 'Alt F2' then typing in 'kdesu konqureror' - gave my password and then navigated to the offending file). Now I can see all the tree structure as it _should_ be ;-) Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From golfbuf at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 18:16:38 2006 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:16:38 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 only loads X in Failsafe graphics mode In-Reply-To: <200610271129.04043.rashid786@gmail.com> References: <200610271129.04043.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: <835a7820610271116o4dd2b029x71f4b043e8dab4a6@mail.gmail.com> On 10/27/06, rashid wrote: > I downloaded the Kubuntu Edgy ISO for x86 and booted from it. The boot splash > and everything seemed to work fine, however, when booting from my PCI nvidia > FX5500, instead of loading X, it just goes to a command line on tty1 or > something like that. When I type startx it just gives an error. > > So I changed to my integrated intel on board graphics chipset, and this time > it gives me an X cursor, then changes to a nice KDE white mouse pointer...and > then the screen goes black and I can't do ANYTHING. Not even a commandline. > > However, I can boot to my intel chipset in failsafe mode, though everything is > painfully slow and i can barely manage to load Konqueror etc > > I'm assuming this is a problem with my drivers...I heard that I should do a > sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-all however I can't do that from a > LiveCD, and if I install fully and it doesn't work...well, I'll be in > trouble :P Yes, I also have a pci nvidia and on board intel graphics. I have my BIOS set to turn off the intel and run video on the nvidia PCI, but this does not help either. Ubuntu is not able to recognize this configuration and you must install, then reboot into safe mode and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the intel to nvidia. On mine, I comment (#) out the old intel and add the pci nvidia, as follows: Section "Device" Identifier "Nvidia GeForce 4 MX4000" Driver "nv" BusID "PCI:1:9:0" # Identifier "Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133" # Driver "i810" # BusID "PCI:0:1:0" EndSection .................... .................... Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Nvidia GeForce 4 MX4000" # Device "Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 Probably your values for busID will be different - check with lspci in a terminal. On mine it shows this for the nvidia: 0000:01:09.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) and the BusID is therefore 1:9:0. So, go ahead and install, and eventually you will make it work. HTH From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Oct 27 18:48:47 2006 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:48:47 -0300 Subject: kioslave question References: <256f4e900610271010g67b9d8a1p76704c5c0cdbbe66@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: D. R. Evans wrote: > Sorry to be asking such stupid questions. The Konq handbook doesn't > seem to be any help at all. Maybe there's some other place I should be > looking? Hey, the only stupid questions are the ones that can be answered by a simple search in Google - and I can't find anything, either. -- derek From vayu at sklinks.com Fri Oct 27 19:54:04 2006 From: vayu at sklinks.com (Joseph Vella) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:54:04 -0700 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <4542495A.3020408@rmk.co.il> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <200610271019.51442.paul@basilisk.ukfsn.org> <4542495A.3020408@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <454263DC.1060400@sklinks.com> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Paul Worrall wrote: > >> On Friday 27 October 2006 07:47, Ian Rose wrote: >> >>> For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing >>> to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders >>> ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from >>> seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? >>> >> If a folder contains a file called ".hidden", and that file contains a list of >> folder or file names, then konqueror treats those files/folders as hidden >> also. In edgy, there is such a file in the root folder (its actually a >> symlink to /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root). You can either choose >> View -> Show Hidden Files, or edit/delete the above file. >> >> > > I found it rather frustrating that the directories under / did not show > up in the side pane (except for 'Root Folder', home and media) even with > "Show hidden files' they were only visible in the main window and not in > the side pane as a 'tree' that I was used to. So, I went to > /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root and renamed it to > hidden-rootOLD (I opened konq using 'Alt F2' then typing in 'kdesu > konqureror' - gave my password and then navigated to the offending file). > Now I can see all the tree structure as it _should_ be ;-) > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > Is this a 3.5 issue? I don't have this problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Oct 27 20:08:56 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 22:08:56 +0200 Subject: Edgy and flash Message-ID: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> I have tried to visit a couple of sites that use Flash 7 but they immediately crash firefox and Konq just sort of sits there and won't load the site properly. The two sites are: http://www.fox.co.il/ and http://kehilat-hamaayan.org.il/ Anybody else having problems with edgy? Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 20:18:32 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:18:32 -0600 Subject: kioslave question In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610271010g67b9d8a1p76704c5c0cdbbe66@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610271010g67b9d8a1p76704c5c0cdbbe66@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610271318h587fe298maac955ba2c00e6a1@mail.gmail.com> On 27/10/06, D. R. Evans wrote: > > I naively pointed konq at a a repository > (svn://127.0.0.1/home/n7dr/svn/kdc-repos, for example), but nothing > useful happened. > Well the reason for this was easy enough :-) KDE 3.5.5 locked up solidly on me this morning and I rebooted, and forgot to restart the svn server. Once I had that running, at least the files in the repository showed up. But I still can't figure out how to do the kinds of things that one really wants to do with a svn respository, such as reciew old versions or run diffs or read logs. I've posted to the kde-linux reflector to see if someone there can tell me where the documentation is. > And since I installed it at the same time, where is the docuementation > for kfile-plugins, which looks like it might be a useful goodie? > Still haven't figured out anything about this yet. I notice that there are some extra subversion-related items now when I right-click on a file, but the options aren't self-explanatory. From ylan.segal at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 20:48:58 2006 From: ylan.segal at gmail.com (Ylan Segal) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:48:58 -0400 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610262355.42327.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: Cliff Wade wrote: > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade > > You need to do quite a bit more than mentioned above. If you read and > follow that URL there you should be pretty good to go. Follow up question: I already downloaded the desktop cd for edgy. Is there any way to use it for the upgrade to save some bandwidth? Thanks, -- Ylan From haroldh at midmaine.com Fri Oct 27 21:08:56 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:08:56 -0400 Subject: hplip Message-ID: <45427568.8090507@midmaine.com> I can't seem to get hplip to work in edgy and it is installed. Can anyone help me with a solution. Harold From hawkwind at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 21:10:36 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Cliff Wade) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:10:36 -0500 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <454263DC.1060400@sklinks.com> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <200610271019.51442.paul@basilisk.ukfsn.org> <4542495A.3020408@rmk.co.il> <454263DC.1060400@sklinks.com> Message-ID: On 10/27/06, Joseph Vella wrote: > > Nigel Ridley wrote: > > Paul Worrall wrote: > > On Friday 27 October 2006 07:47, Ian Rose wrote: > > For some reason when using konqueror as a normal user in edgy, browsing > to / only displays TWO folders: "/home" and "/media". The other folders > ("/usr /bin /etc ...") are all there, but this bug prevents me from > seeing them. Has anybody else encountered this, or know of a fix? > > If a folder contains a file called ".hidden", and that file contains a list of > folder or file names, then konqueror treats those files/folders as hidden > also. In edgy, there is such a file in the root folder (its actually a > symlink to /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root). You can either choose > View -> Show Hidden Files, or edit/delete the above file. > > I found it rather frustrating that the directories under / did not show > up in the side pane (except for 'Root Folder', home and media) even with > "Show hidden files' they were only visible in the main window and not in > the side pane as a 'tree' that I was used to. So, I went to > /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root and renamed it to > hidden-rootOLD (I opened konq using 'Alt F2' then typing in 'kdesu > konqureror' - gave my password and then navigated to the offending file). > Now I can see all the tree structure as it _should_ be ;-) > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > Is this a 3.5 issue? I don't have this problem. > This was done in Edgy. It's a new *feature* as they call it. IMO it's one of if not the worst feature anyone has ever thought of. I mean, what's the point and what does it accomplish other than complete confusion. -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- With kind regards, Cliff Wade (Hawkwind) Registered Linux User #362532 Registered Kubuntu User #331 http://seerofsouls.com http://linuxfordummies.org http://urpmi-addmedia.org IRC Channels (irc.freenode.net): #LFD #Kubuntu #Ulteo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbmorse at comcast.net Fri Oct 27 21:13:04 2006 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:13:04 -0600 Subject: hplip In-Reply-To: <45427568.8090507@midmaine.com> References: <45427568.8090507@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <200610271513.04567.rbmorse@comcast.net> It works here. Did you run hp-setup? RBM On Friday 27 October 2006 15:08, Harold Hartley wrote: > I can't seem to get hplip to work in edgy and it is > installed. Can anyone help me with a solution. > > Harold From dhcolesj at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 21:40:38 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:40:38 -0500 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: References: <200610262154.30386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610271640.38767.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 26 October 2006 10:47 pm, august tan wrote: > ？？？What was happened? > > 2006/10/27, Howard Coles Jr. : > > Anyone know what happened? It was there last night, and now its not. > > > > Weird. > > Right, to freecontrib.org. I can't get to it. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From haroldh at midmaine.com Fri Oct 27 21:44:31 2006 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:44:31 -0400 Subject: hplip In-Reply-To: <200610271513.04567.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <45427568.8090507@midmaine.com> <200610271513.04567.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45427DBF.3020900@midmaine.com> Ron Morse wrote: > It works here. Did you run hp-setup? > > RBM > > > On Friday 27 October 2006 15:08, Harold Hartley wrote: > >> I can't seem to get hplip to work in edgy and it is >> installed. Can anyone help me with a solution. >> >> Harold >> > > I'm all set now. Thanks Harold From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 27 21:47:14 2006 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ Message-ID: <20061027214714.17741.qmail@web82812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I must be doing something wrong as entering: http://localhost:901/ in my web browser doesn't bring up the swat program. It gives this error(konqueror and mozilla): The connection was refused... for mozilla and Could not connect to host localhost (port 901). for konq Can someone please tell me what I must do to run swat. Have read the swat man which says to add the above and also googled on the address but no answers only snide replyies to read the how to ask questions link and some untranslatable posts. I have successfully used swat in the past but if I had to do something special it excapes me. Thanks for any replies. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From labradley at mindspring.com Fri Oct 27 22:40:10 2006 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:40:10 -0500 Subject: cron.daily questions In-Reply-To: References: <256f4e900610050840h35ca17bh30de19b37306c236@mail.gmail.com> <200610052031.58755.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> <45266CF0.1050005@gmail.com> <4526D356.4060805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45428ACA.4060607@mindspring.com> Please PMFJI but I have some related questions regarding cron. In my Kubuntu system /etc/cron.daily (and weekly/monthly) files are _never_ run at all. However files in cron.hourly run ok. My /etc/crontab and the other one listed in this thread indicate that cron.hourly files are run from cron but cron.daily, weekly and monthly are run by anacron. However, anacron is not started on bootup as I would expect (per ps -al |grep anacron). The questions: Is it normal for (K)ubuntu to _not_ start anacron when booted? What file can I edit to run anacron at boot time? Does anyone know why cron.hourly runs by cron but cron.daily/weekly/monthly runs by anacron? Wouldn't it be simplier to let the same daemon run everything? From your comments on this thread the light finally dawned for me. Thank you very much. I had been stumped on this for a month or more but from your thread comments I realized that cron.daily et al were not running because they run from anacron instead of cron. And anacron is not running ;-) Larry -- Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Linux From gismo at iol.ie Fri Oct 27 23:15:28 2006 From: gismo at iol.ie (Steve) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:15:28 +0100 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610271640.38767.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610262154.30386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610271640.38767.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610280015.28558.gismo@iol.ie> On Fri 27 October 2006 22:40, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > 2006/10/27, Howard Coles Jr. : > > > Anyone know what happened?  It was there last night, and now > > > its not. > > > > > > Weird. > > Right, to freecontrib.org.  I can't get to it. > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. Yep I can't get it either!! steve From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 28 00:06:21 2006 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey Message-ID: <20061028000621.17154.qmail@web82805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just discovered that Seamonkey is the new Mozilla Suite. It's not available, AFAICT, in Kubuntu. Will we get it on (K)ubuntu eventually as it is supposed to get mozilla browser to play embeds which currently don't play for me. Any guidance/links on this is appreciated. Thanks. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 28 00:42:06 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ In-Reply-To: <20061027214714.17741.qmail@web82812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061028004206.63190.qmail@web33502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Leonard Chatagnier wrote: I must be doing something wrong as entering: http://localhost:901/ in my web browser doesn't bring up the swat program. It gives this error(konqueror and mozilla): The connection was refused... for mozilla and Could not connect to host localhost (port 901). for konq Can someone please tell me what I must do to run swat. Have read the swat man which says to add the above and also googled on the address but no answers only snide replyies to read the how to ask questions link and some untranslatable posts. I have successfully used swat in the past but if I had to do something special it excapes me. Thanks for any replies. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Swat and for that matter the cups browser interface does not get along well with ubunutu's Sudo and no root user setup. Swat actually is unsupported although it is in the repositories. I played with it and it messed up the samba configuration and have been editiing the samba configuration manually with an editor since then. There are some tips for setting up Samba in the unnoficial ubuntu guide. 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Laude) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:28:49 -0600 Subject: nspluginviewer crashing Firefox 2.0 Message-ID: <200610271928.50110.kc9aae@bresnan.net> Anyone run across this one yet? If I go to http://www.gigaparts.com firefox just crashes without a error. (under Edgy) This didn't happen prior to upgrading from dapper. Thankfully, Konqueror gives a error for nspluginview, but does not crash. Oh yeah, I'm using the Flash 9 beta if that matters. Dana From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sat Oct 28 02:08:33 2006 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (Grumpy_Penguin) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:08:33 -0700 Subject: nspluginviewer crashing Firefox 2.0 In-Reply-To: <200610271928.50110.kc9aae@bresnan.net> References: <200610271928.50110.kc9aae@bresnan.net> Message-ID: <200610271908.33349.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Friday 27 October 2006 18:28, Dana J. Laude wrote: > Anyone run across this one yet? If I go to http://www.gigaparts.com > firefox just crashes without a error. (under Edgy) This didn't happen > prior to upgrading from dapper. > > Thankfully, Konqueror gives a error for nspluginview, but does not > crash. Oh yeah, I'm using the Flash 9 beta if that matters. > > Dana No problem here ...but I'm not running flash9 -- Cum catapultae proscribeantur tum soli proscripti catapultas habeant. From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 02:18:51 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:18:51 -0500 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610280015.28558.gismo@iol.ie> References: <200610262154.30386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610271640.38767.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610280015.28558.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <200610272118.51375.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 6:15 pm, Steve wrote: > On Fri 27 October 2006 22:40, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > > 2006/10/27, Howard Coles Jr. : > > > > Anyone know what happened?  It was there last night, and now > > > > its not. > > > > > > > > Weird. > > > > Right, to freecontrib.org.  I can't get to it. > > > > -- > > See Ya' > > Howard Coles Jr. > > Yep I can't get it either!! > steve Does anyone know what has happened? packages.freecontrib.org can't even be resolved by my browser now. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 02:54:32 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:54:32 -0500 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610280015.28558.gismo@iol.ie> References: <200610262154.30386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610271640.38767.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610280015.28558.gismo@iol.ie> Message-ID: <200610272154.32620.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 6:15 pm, Steve wrote: > On Fri 27 October 2006 22:40, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > > 2006/10/27, Howard Coles Jr. : > > > > Anyone know what happened?  It was there last night, and now > > > > its not. > > > > > > > > Weird. > > > > Right, to freecontrib.org.  I can't get to it. > > > > -- > > See Ya' > > Howard Coles Jr. > > Yep I can't get it either!! > steve Found a bug submitted to launchpad, number 68262 https://launchpad.net/products/plf/+bug/68262 -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 28 03:22:53 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610272118.51375.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061028032253.93212.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Howard Coles Jr." wrote: On Friday 27 October 2006 6:15 pm, Steve wrote: > On Fri 27 October 2006 22:40, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > > 2006/10/27, Howard Coles Jr. : > > > > Anyone know what happened? It was there last night, and now > > > > its not. > > > > > > > > Weird. > > > > Right, to freecontrib.org. I can't get to it. > > > > -- > > See Ya' > > Howard Coles Jr. > > Yep I can't get it either!! > steve Does anyone know what has happened? packages.freecontrib.org can't even be resolved by my browser now. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users A couple of days ago I went to freecontib.org trying to find the public key...all I could find was some blogs....My French is weak, but the just of the latest one in July was someone else was supposed to take over the Ubuntu repo and the writer as going on vacation. What I can't remember is what I was using from that repository? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rbmorse at comcast.net Sat Oct 28 05:37:59 2006 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:37:59 -0600 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <20061028032253.93212.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061028032253.93212.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610272337.59211.rbmorse@comcast.net> That's were all the multi-media goodies U.S. users shouldn't be loading came from. RBM On Friday 27 October 2006 21:22, Bry Melvin wrote: > "Howard Coles Jr." wrote: On Friday 27 October 2006 6:15 pm, Steve wrote: > > On Fri 27 October 2006 22:40, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > > > 2006/10/27, Howard Coles Jr. : > > > > > Anyone know what happened? It was there last > > > > > night, and now its not. > > > > > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > Right, to freecontrib.org. I can't get to it. > > > > > > -- > > > See Ya' > > > Howard Coles Jr. > > > > Yep I can't get it either!! > > steve > > Does anyone know what has happened? > packages.freecontrib.org can't even be resolved by my > browser now. > > -- > See Ya' > Howard Coles Jr. > John 3:16! > > http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 28 06:06:53 2006 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061028060653.73583.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > > >Leonard Chatagnier wrote: I > >must be doing something wrong as entering: > >http://localhost:901/ in my web browser doesn't > bring > >up the swat program. It gives this error(konqueror > and > >mozilla): > >The connection was refused... for mozilla and > >Could not connect to host localhost (port 901). for > >konq > >Can someone please tell me what I must do to run > >swat. > >Have read the swat man which says to add the above > >and > >also googled on the address but no answers only > >snide > >replyies to read the how to ask questions link and > >some untranslatable posts. I have successfully used > >swat in the past but if I had to do something > >special > >it excapes me. > >Thanks for any replies. > > >Leonard Chatagnier > >lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net > > > Swat and for that matter the cups browser interface > does not get along well with ubunutu's Sudo and no > root user setup. > > Swat actually is unsupported although it is in the > repositories. > > I played with it and it messed up the samba > configuration and have been editiing the samba > configuration manually with an editor since then. > > There are some tips for setting up Samba in the > unnoficial ubuntu guide. > Samba has never just worked for me...It has to have > users set up etc. > Ok, I'm a total networking idiot and don't know what to put in the smb.conf file and used swat before probably under Debian if not (K)ubuntu to set the smb.conf up. I have setup a root user in Kubuntu and tried it with wget and tried Kdrc and Kdfb all to no avail. What I want to do is to be able to interact between the 2 computers on my lan(one Kubuntu Dapper and one with WXP). If I can't access swat with Kubuntu could you give me a link to help setup the smb.conf(Man pages are useless for me, I read them.) Is there another way to access(r, w, x) the computers on a lan other than Samba. I definitely could use some specifics here. All comments/suggestions very much appreciated. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From rashid786 at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 07:25:38 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (rashid) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:25:38 +0100 Subject: Edgy and flash In-Reply-To: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 21:08, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I have tried to visit a couple of sites that use Flash 7 but they > immediately crash firefox and Konq just sort of sits there and won't > load the site properly. > > The two sites are: > http://www.fox.co.il/ > and > http://kehilat-hamaayan.org.il/ > > Anybody else having problems with edgy? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > Messianic E-Cards.com > http://www.messianicecards.com/ What version of flash player do you have installed? You could try installing the new flash 9 (beta) to see if it makes a difference. -Rashid P.S. Al mawt li Israel ;) From rashid786 at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 07:28:23 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (rashid) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:28:23 +0100 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 21:48, Ylan Segal wrote: > Follow up question: > > I already downloaded the desktop cd for edgy. Is there any way to use it > for the upgrade to save some bandwidth? > > Thanks, > > -- > Ylan Yup. You can insert the disc, then at a terminal emulator type "apt-cdrom add" and it should add the cdrom to your sources.list Then you can apt-cdrom dist-upgrade or something similar. Sorry if I've missed something (again!) Hopefully someone can correct me if I have :) -Rashid From rashid786 at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 07:37:45 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (rashid) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:37:45 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 only loads X in Failsafe graphics mode In-Reply-To: <835a7820610271116o4dd2b029x71f4b043e8dab4a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <200610271129.04043.rashid786@gmail.com> <835a7820610271116o4dd2b029x71f4b043e8dab4a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610280837.46197.rashid786@gmail.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 19:16, golfer wrote: > On 10/27/06, rashid wrote: > > I downloaded the Kubuntu Edgy ISO for x86 and booted from it. The boot > > splash and everything seemed to work fine, however, when booting from my > > PCI nvidia FX5500, instead of loading X, it just goes to a command line > > on tty1 or something like that. When I type startx it just gives an > > error. > > > > So I changed to my integrated intel on board graphics chipset, and this > > time it gives me an X cursor, then changes to a nice KDE white mouse > > pointer...and then the screen goes black and I can't do ANYTHING. Not > > even a commandline. > > > > However, I can boot to my intel chipset in failsafe mode, though > > everything is painfully slow and i can barely manage to load Konqueror > > etc > > > > I'm assuming this is a problem with my drivers...I heard that I should do > > a sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-all however I can't do that > > from a LiveCD, and if I install fully and it doesn't work...well, I'll be > > in trouble :P > > Yes, I also have a pci nvidia and on board intel graphics. I have my > BIOS set to turn off the intel and run video on the nvidia PCI, but > this does not help either. > > Ubuntu is not able to recognize this configuration and you must > install, then reboot into safe mode and edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf > to change the intel to nvidia. On mine, I comment (#) out the old > intel and add the pci nvidia, as follows: > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Nvidia GeForce 4 MX4000" > Driver "nv" > BusID "PCI:1:9:0" > # Identifier "Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133" > # Driver "i810" > # BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > EndSection > .................... > .................... > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Default Screen" > Device "Nvidia GeForce 4 MX4000" > # Device "Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133" > Monitor "Generic Monitor" > DefaultDepth 24 > > Probably your values for busID will be different - check with lspci in > a terminal. On mine it shows this for the nvidia: > > 0000:01:09.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 > [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) > > and the BusID is therefore 1:9:0. > > So, go ahead and install, and eventually you will make it work. > > HTH Excellent :D Thanks for the reply. Glad to know someone else uses a nVidia PCI card like me. I really need a working stable system, and I have to study for my exam in 10 days so I think I'll put the installation off until after the exam...or just install on a new partition :D Thanks again :) -Rashid From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 28 07:44:37 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ Message-ID: <20061028074437.70749.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- From: Leonard Chatagnier To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:06:53 PM Subject: Re: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ > > > >Leonard Chatagnier wrote: I > >must be doing something wrong as entering: > >http://localhost:901/ in my web browser doesn't > bring > >up the swat program. It gives this error(konqueror > and > >mozilla): > >The connection was refused... for mozilla and > >Could not connect to host localhost (port 901). for > >konq SNIP > unnoficial ubuntu guide. > Samba has never just worked for me...It has to have > users set up etc. > Ok, I'm a total networking idiot and don't know what to put in the smb.conf file and used swat before probably under Debian if not (K)ubuntu to set the smb.conf up. I have setup a root user in Kubuntu and tried it with wget and tried Kdrc and Kdfb all to no avail. What I want to do is to be able to interact between the 2 computers on my lan(one Kubuntu Dapper and one with WXP). If I can't access swat with Kubuntu could you give me a link to help setup the smb.conf(Man pages are useless for me, I read them.) Is there another way to access(r, w, x) the computers on a lan other than Samba. I definitely could use some specifics here. All comments/suggestions very much appreciated. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Try this link: This is a page in the Unnofficial Ubuntu Guide. Using the items here I have several computers talking to each other Dapper Breezy Win and eCS. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server Bryann From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 28 07:55:37 2006 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:55:37 -0400 Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ In-Reply-To: <20061028074437.70749.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061028074437.70749.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610280355.38172.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 3:44 am, Bry Melvin wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Leonard Chatagnier > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:06:53 PM > > Subject: Re: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ > > > >Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > I > > > >must be doing something wrong as entering: > > > > > >http://localhost:901/ in my web browser doesn't > > > > bring > > > > >up the swat program. It gives this error(konqueror > > > > and > > > > >mozilla): > > > > > >The connection was refused... for mozilla and > > > > > >Could not connect to host localhost (port 901). for > > > > > >konq > > SNIP > > > unnoficial ubuntu guide. > > > > Samba has never just worked for me...It has to have > > > > users set up etc. > > Ok, I'm a total networking idiot and don't know what > > to put in the smb.conf file and used swat before > > probably under Debian if not (K)ubuntu to set the > > smb.conf up. I have setup a root user in Kubuntu and > > tried it with wget and tried Kdrc and Kdfb all to no > > avail. What I want to do is to be able to interact > > between the 2 computers on my lan(one Kubuntu Dapper > > and one with WXP). If I can't access swat with Kubuntu > > could you give me a link to help setup the > > smb.conf(Man pages are useless for me, I read them.) > > Is there another way to access(r, w, x) the computers > > on a lan other than Samba. I definitely could use some > > specifics here. All comments/suggestions very much appreciated. > > > > Leonard Chatagnier > > lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > Try this link: > > > > This is a page in the Unnofficial Ubuntu Guide. > > > > Using the items here I have several computers talking to each other Dapper > Breezy Win and eCS. > > > > http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server > > > > Bryann -- D. Michael McIntyre Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ See my new music stand unfolding at http://users.adelphia.net/~silvan/ From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 28 08:08:12 2006 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:08:12 -0400 Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ In-Reply-To: <200610280355.38172.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <20061028074437.70749.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610280355.38172.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200610280408.12408.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 3:55 am, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: Huh?! How did I do that?! Sorry. -- D. Michael McIntyre Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ See my new music stand unfolding at http://users.adelphia.net/~silvan/ From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 28 08:13:47 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 01:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ In-Reply-To: <20061028060653.73583.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061028081347.85620.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > > > > > >Leonard Chatagnier > wrote: > I > > >must be doing something wrong as entering: >SNIP > > > > Swat actually is unsupported although it is in the > > repositories. > > > > I played with it and it messed up the samba > > configuration and have been editiing the samba > > configuration manually with an editor since then. > > > > There are some tips for setting up Samba in the > > unnoficial ubuntu guide. > > Samba has never just worked for me...It has to > have > > users set up etc. > > > Ok, I'm a total networking idiot and don't know what > to put in the smb.conf file and used swat before > probably under Debian if not (K)ubuntu to set the > smb.conf up. I have setup a root user in Kubuntu and > tried it with wget and tried Kdrc and Kdfb all to no > avail. What I want to do is to be able to interact > between the 2 computers on my lan(one Kubuntu Dapper > and one with WXP). If I can't access swat with > Kubuntu > could you give me a link to help setup the > smb.conf(Man pages are useless for me, I read them.) > Is there another way to access(r, w, x) the > computers > on a lan other than Samba. I definitely could use > some > specifics here. All comments/suggestions very much > appreciated. > > Leonard Chatagnier > lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > There are some items under Samba server at ubuntuguide .org Assuming you have a full KDE installed: kcontrol also has a way to alter Samba settings from the GUI. kcontrol doesn't show in the menus on Kubuntu,,,but it's still there. Bryann From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 09:50:23 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 03:50:23 -0600 Subject: kioslave question In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610271318h587fe298maac955ba2c00e6a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900610271010g67b9d8a1p76704c5c0cdbbe66@mail.gmail.com> <256f4e900610271318h587fe298maac955ba2c00e6a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610280250i239f4114l7a233cd9e44eb6a1@mail.gmail.com> Just for the record, I have made a lot of progress, thanks to someone on the kde-linux reflector. It turns out that kdesdk-kio-plugins is not the right package (despite the description as a "subversion io slave for KDE"). The right package to use is kdesvn. I don't know why there are two packages that implement a subversion kio slave, but I had clearly chosen the wrong one. Now that I have kdesvn installed instead of kdesdk-kio-plugins, things are much better. There is still a minor issue with trying to view files that I am working on with assistance from the kde-linux reflector, but basically it is all working now. From frode at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 28 09:58:37 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:58:37 +0200 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610281158.38129.frode@ubuntu.com> Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 09:28, skrev rashid: > On Friday 27 October 2006 21:48, Ylan Segal wrote: > > Follow up question: > > > > I already downloaded the desktop cd for edgy. Is there any way to use it > > for the upgrade to save some bandwidth? The short answer is no. [cut] > Yup. You can insert the disc, then at a terminal emulator type "apt-cdrom > add" and it should add the cdrom to your sources.list Then you can > apt-cdrom dist-upgrade or something similar. > > Sorry if I've missed something (again!) Hopefully someone can correct me if > I have :) That is only true for the alternate install cd. The alternate install cd have archive structure of .deb files on it. The desktop/livecd does not have that, or it does, but only a couple of packages. Which won't help you much. - Frode From frode at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 28 10:00:53 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:00:53 +0200 Subject: konqueror not displaying all folders (edgy) In-Reply-To: <4542495A.3020408@rmk.co.il> References: <4541AB7A.9070503@themagictree.co.uk> <200610271019.51442.paul@basilisk.ukfsn.org> <4542495A.3020408@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200610281200.54072.frode@ubuntu.com> Fredag 27 oktober 2006 20:00, skrev Nigel Ridley: > Paul Worrall wrote: [cut] > I found it rather frustrating that the directories under / did not show > up in the side pane (except for 'Root Folder', home and media) even with > "Show hidden files' they were only visible in the main window and not in > the side pane as a 'tree' that I was used to. So, I went to > /etc/kubuntu-default/settings/hidden-root and renamed it to > hidden-rootOLD (I opened konq using 'Alt F2' then typing in 'kdesu > konqureror' - gave my password and then navigated to the offending file). > Now I can see all the tree structure as it _should_ be ;-) [cut] The bug is reported. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/68719 - Frode From reb68 at bellsouth.net Sat Oct 28 10:23:55 2006 From: reb68 at bellsouth.net (Richard E. Barmann) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 06:23:55 -0400 Subject: Modem Message-ID: <200610280624.05168.reb68@bellsouth.net> I have a DSL connection. I want to set up my Zoom modem to use with the faxing utility. It is in stalled and before I changed to Dapper it was working to fax out of OpenOffice. I cannot even locate the fax now. I can set up the fax printer but it brings up the fax number window, accepts the number, and then shows an error. The modem is not shown in control panel so I am at a loss as to doing the setup. Thanks Dick -- http://georgiatrailriders.com http://www.barmannsbar.com http://metroironworks.com For the worlds smallest political quiz: http://eastmetrolp.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rashid786 at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 10:26:12 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (rashid) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:26:12 +0100 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: <200610281158.38129.frode@ubuntu.com> References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> <200610281158.38129.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200610281126.13275.rashid786@gmail.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 10:58, Frode M. Døving wrote: > The short answer is no. > > > > Yup. You can insert the disc, then at a terminal emulator type "apt-cdrom > > add" and it should add the cdrom to your sources.list Then you can > > apt-cdrom dist-upgrade or something similar. > > > > Sorry if I've missed something (again!) Hopefully someone can correct me > > if I have :) > > That is only true for the alternate install cd. > The alternate install cd have archive structure of .deb files on it. The > desktop/livecd does not have that, or it does, but only a couple of > packages. Which won't help you much. > > - Frode Ah, OK. I suspected that that might be the case :) -Rashid From hans at poppe.nu Sat Oct 28 11:51:48 2006 From: hans at poppe.nu (Hans Poppe) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:51:48 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy icons missing Message-ID: Hi, I've just updated (actually I formatted and reinstalled all except /home) and in Kubuntu 6.06 I had an icon for the ethernet and the wifi cards on the taskbar in the lower right corner, next to the clock. It's not there anymoe and I miss them. Could anyone help me in finding them? They wewe nice to have. Thanks Hans Poppe Oslo, Norway -- *************** Nil conscire sibi, nulla pallecere culpa! From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 28 12:29:21 2006 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061028122921.99516.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:15:45 +1300 > From: Rebel Lion > Rebel Lion wrote: > On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) > Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > > Just discovered that Seamonkey is the new Mozilla > > Suite. > > It's not available, AFAICT, in Kubuntu. > > Will we get it on (K)ubuntu eventually as it is > > supposed to get mozilla browser to play embeds > which > > currently don't play for me. > > Any guidance/links on this is appreciated. > > Thanks. > > > > Leonard Chatagnier > > lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net > > > > You can always install it yourself from the tar.gz > > Hey RebelLion, Thanks for the reply. I may try to compile it but need some info before I do as have done so only once and a nice person held my hand and walked me through it. I have mplayerplug-in-3.31 cvs compiled installed and don't know how to uninstall it. Some guidance/links in this regard would help. Also, mplayerplug-in-3.31 doesn't make mozilla browser play embedds in Kubuntu which is why I want to try Seamonkey. Also do I have to uninstall mozilla suite before compiling and installing Seamonkey? Any other programs needed to uninstall? Sorry to ask these basic questions but they are beyond my experienc level. Any suggestions would be helpful. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From xurxo13 at terra.es Sat Oct 28 13:16:57 2006 From: xurxo13 at terra.es (Xurxo Fernandez Gismero) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:16:57 +0200 Subject: Edgy and flash In-Reply-To: <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1162041417.6376.1.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 08:25 +0100, rashid wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2006 21:08, Nigel Ridley wrote: > > I have tried to visit a couple of sites that use Flash 7 but they > > immediately crash firefox and Konq just sort of sits there and won't > > load the site properly. > > > > The two sites are: > > http://www.fox.co.il/ Mine crashed too... this edgy update hasnt been as stable as dapper so far but it always takes a few days to fix minor bugs. From ylan.segal at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 14:56:20 2006 From: ylan.segal at gmail.com (Ylan Segal) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:56:20 -0400 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> <200610281158.38129.frode@ubuntu.com> <200610281126.13275.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: rashid wrote: > > Ah, OK. I suspected that that might be the case :) > No problem, I wanted to have the edgy desktop available anyway to have bootable disc. I followed the wiki instructions and I am now running edgy! So far, everything seems to be running fine. -- Ylan From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Oct 28 15:48:40 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:48:40 +0200 Subject: Edgy and flash In-Reply-To: <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45437BD8.3060203@rmk.co.il> rashid wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2006 21:08, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> I have tried to visit a couple of sites that use Flash 7 but they >> immediately crash firefox and Konq just sort of sits there and won't >> load the site properly. >> >> The two sites are: >> http://www.fox.co.il/ >> and >> http://kehilat-hamaayan.org.il/ >> >> Anybody else having problems with edgy? >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> PrayingForIsrael.net >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ >> >> Messianic E-Cards.com >> http://www.messianicecards.com/ > > What version of flash player do you have installed? You could try installing > the new flash 9 (beta) to see if it makes a difference. > > -Rashid > > P.S. Al mawt li Israel ;) Slicha, lo avanti; al ma ata medaber? > I did have the standard flash non-free v.7 then removed that and manually installed the beta 9 but that also crashes Firefox and shows no content in Konqueror. I too will have to wait for the updates/bug fixes. Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sat Oct 28 15:53:49 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:53:49 -0700 Subject: Filesystem In-Reply-To: <4451EC83.2020504@torstencalvi.com> References: <4451EC83.2020504@torstencalvi.com> Message-ID: PTCC spake thusly on 04/28/2006 03:20 AM: > Dear All, > > I wanted to ask for help, I have a problem accessing my CDROM on Kubuntu > when I load the CD on the CDROM it says Error-Conqueror could not mount > device The reported error was "mount unknown filesystem type 'iso9660 > Try this and see if it helps. $ sudo rm /media/.hidden -- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From vayu at sklinks.com Sat Oct 28 15:53:13 2006 From: vayu at sklinks.com (Vayu) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 08:53:13 -0700 Subject: How do I run a script on a file from right click? In-Reply-To: <1162041417.6376.1.camel@localhost> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> <1162041417.6376.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45437CE9.8070004@sklinks.com> In Gnome I can right click and there will be an option for scripts. I have one there for editing a file as root and I have one for browsing a directory as root. How/can I do it in KDE? From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Sat Oct 28 16:02:00 2006 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 09:02:00 -0700 Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20061028122921.99516.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061028122921.99516.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Leonard Chatagnier spake thusly on 10/28/2006 05:29 AM: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:15:45 +1300 >> From: Rebel Lion > >> Rebel Lion wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) >> Leonard Chatagnier wrote: >> >>> Just discovered that Seamonkey is the new Mozilla >>> Suite. >>> It's not available, AFAICT, in Kubuntu. >>> Will we get it on (K)ubuntu eventually as it is >>> supposed to get mozilla browser to play embeds >> which >>> currently don't play for me. >>> Any guidance/links on this is appreciated. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Leonard Chatagnier >>> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net >>> >> You can always install it yourself from the tar.gz >> >> Hey RebelLion, > Thanks for the reply. I may try to compile it but need > some info before I do as have done so only once and a > nice person held my hand and walked me through it. Personally I prefer Firefox and Thunderbird. Seamonkey reminds me of Netscape circa 1998. In any event the tarball that was suggested isn't source code. It's the binary installer. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1a/seamonkey-1.1a.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz There's also an installer that is just an installer. It downloads the rest for you and install it. You can select which components you want. http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1a/seamonkey-1.1a.en-US.linux-i686.stub-installer.tar.gz -- Scott www.angrykeyboarder.com © 2006 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wights Wesewved From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sat Oct 28 16:21:35 2006 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:21:35 -0400 Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: References: <20061028122921.99516.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4543838F.2010904@optonline.net> >Personally I prefer Firefox and Thunderbird. Seamonkey reminds me of >Netscape circa 1998. > > > > I prefer to have my browser and e-mail program integrated. I also use composer at times to do some quick page manipulations. I like to be able to manipulate the code and then switch to the wysiwyg part to see the result. I might use Konq and Kmail, but Kmail always gives me problems...dunno why. so I stick with what I know works. tony -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GL$/GED$ d- s-:-- a C+++ UL++ P L+++ E---- W++ N+ K- w-- M+ V- PS++ PE-- Y+ PGP+ t+ 5 X+ R tv b++++ D---- G e+++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ http://www.baldwinlinguas.com - my translation agency site http://www.photodharma.com - my art & photography http://www.school-library.net - my educational resource and linux in edu advocacy site http://www.colourfulpainting.com - my painting contractor business From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 16:47:48 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:47:48 -0500 Subject: Where is KDAR and KOPETE for edgy? Message-ID: <200610281147.48502.dhcolesj@gmail.com> I need kdar, as my backups are in dar archives. I'm also wondering about where kopete is for edgy because its now showing up under "local and obsolete"? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 16:53:41 2006 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:53:41 -0600 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> <200610281158.38129.frode@ubuntu.com> <200610281126.13275.rashid786@gmail.com> Message-ID: <256f4e900610280953l5b7d6dddr4a9271f9ce6484f2@mail.gmail.com> On 28/10/06, Ylan Segal wrote: > rashid wrote: > I followed the wiki instructions and I am now running edgy! So far, > everything seems to be running fine. I am happy for you. Most people seem to be upgrading successfully. Unfortunately (for me) I did the same and got a very different result: I get a console login prompt instead of the GUI. I am going to do a complete new install on that machine. Life is too short to try to figure out what went wrong with the upgrade process :-( At least I know that I won't be trying to upgrade my main machine; I can't afford to have that one break and be forced to do a complete install on it.. From andre.haupt at gmx.de Sat Oct 28 17:12:37 2006 From: andre.haupt at gmx.de (Andre Haupt) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:12:37 +0200 Subject: How do I run a script on a file from right click? In-Reply-To: <45437CE9.8070004@sklinks.com> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> <1162041417.6376.1.camel@localhost> <45437CE9.8070004@sklinks.com> Message-ID: <45438F85.4040506@gmx.de> Vayu wrote: > In Gnome I can right click and there will be an option for scripts. I > have one there for editing a file as root and I have one for browsing a > directory as root. How/can I do it in KDE? > > > Please do not hijack threads. To create a new thread send a message to kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com instead of just hitting the reply button. From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Oct 28 17:16:21 2006 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:16:21 +0200 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: <256f4e900610280953l5b7d6dddr4a9271f9ce6484f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> <200610281158.38129.frode@ubuntu.com> <200610281126.13275.rashid786@gmail.com> <256f4e900610280953l5b7d6dddr4a9271f9ce6484f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45439065.7030100@wanadoo.fr> Hi, Don't know if it will "help you", but here is what I had to do when I upgraded to edgy (kubuntu) today : - follow the wiki (this one is easy ;) ) Then upgrading did not go well, installing xorg failed :( Maybe my problems came from the fact I installed (and uninstalled) once xgl ... - uninstall the whole xorg by removing : * apt-get remove x-window-system-core xorg-driver-fglrx libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dri (actually, it was the mesa libs that prevented x from beeing installed... they were "conflicting"... ??) - this also removed my KDE ... so I had to reinstall it : * apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal kde-i18n-fr * please note I had to install the kde-i18n ... - Now, KDE fonts were all "dirty", so I had to edit my fonts preferences and set the maximum cleartype options (dont know how to translate the french words... the maximum "thing" is about "hinting") - firefox did not want to go on https sites ! So I had to : * mv /usr/lib/firefox /usr/lib/firefox.old * mkdir /usr/lib/firefox (it did not want to install the package if directory was not created) * apt-get remove firefox sun-java5-plugin * apt-get install firefox sun-java5-plugin (maybe I could have used a "install --reinstall ?) That's all I had to fix today... I hope there won't be too many other things broken ! Cheers P.S : now, "apt-get install kde" still does not work, I don't know why... there aslo conflicts in kde multimedia, I have libraries that are newer that what should be installed - weird... D. R. Evans a écrit : > On 28/10/06, Ylan Segal wrote: > >> rashid wrote: >> > > >> I followed the wiki instructions and I am now running edgy! So far, >> everything seems to be running fine. >> > > I am happy for you. Most people seem to be upgrading successfully. > > Unfortunately (for me) I did the same and got a very different result: > I get a console login prompt instead of the GUI. > > I am going to do a complete new install on that machine. Life is too > short to try to figure out what went wrong with the upgrade process > :-( > > At least I know that I won't be trying to upgrade my main machine; I > can't afford to have that one break and be forced to do a complete > install on it.. > > From rashid786 at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 17:27:16 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Rashid ul Islam) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:27:16 +0100 Subject: Upgrading from dapper to edgy In-Reply-To: <45439065.7030100@wanadoo.fr> References: <45413629.7030002@bellsouth.net> <200610280828.24217.rashid786@gmail.com> <200610281158.38129.frode@ubuntu.com> <200610281126.13275.rashid786@gmail.com> <256f4e900610280953l5b7d6dddr4a9271f9ce6484f2@mail.gmail.com> <45439065.7030100@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <14cf5ea70610281027p3aa0d8b2s61ba0dad3996ac1b@mail.gmail.com> Ylan, glad you managed to get it running fine :D I disagree with DR Evans though, most people seem to be having problems more than perfectness! Ubuntu Forums - Poll Good "luck" :) -Rashid -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rashid786 at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 17:29:09 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Rashid ul Islam) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:29:09 +0100 Subject: How do I run a script on a file from right click? In-Reply-To: <45438F85.4040506@gmx.de> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> <1162041417.6376.1.camel@localhost> <45437CE9.8070004@sklinks.com> <45438F85.4040506@gmx.de> Message-ID: <14cf5ea70610281029m22b8876cu74d08d9b82bc766e@mail.gmail.com> Andre, how is he hijacking a thread? :S As far as I can tell, its a new topic :S Anyway, Vayu, you should double click the file in KDE, and it will run, provided it is set to the correct permissions. 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URL: From rashid786 at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 17:34:24 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Rashid ul Islam) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:34:24 +0100 Subject: Edgy and flash In-Reply-To: <45437BD8.3060203@rmk.co.il> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <200610280825.39781.rashid786@gmail.com> <45437BD8.3060203@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <14cf5ea70610281034o203e2863qc2eff4f88f47638@mail.gmail.com> On 28/10/06, Nigel Ridley wrote: > rashid wrote: > > On Friday 27 October 2006 21:08, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> I have tried to visit a couple of sites that use Flash 7 but they > >> immediately crash firefox and Konq just sort of sits there and won't > >> load the site properly. > >> > >> The two sites are: > >> http://www.fox.co.il/ > >> and > >> http://kehilat-hamaayan.org.il/ > >> > >> Anybody else having problems with edgy? > >> > >> Blessings, > >> > >> Nigel > >> > >> -- > >> PrayingForIsrael.net > >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > >> > >> Messianic E-Cards.com > >> http://www.messianicecards.com/ > > > > What version of flash player do you have installed? You could try installing > > the new flash 9 (beta) to see if it makes a difference. > > > > -Rashid > > > > P.S. Al mawt li Israel ;) > Slicha, lo avanti; al ma ata medaber? Afraid I don't understand hebrew... :) > I did have the standard flash non-free v.7 then removed that and > manually installed the beta 9 but that also crashes Firefox and shows no > content in Konqueror. > I too will have to wait for the updates/bug fixes. > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > Messianic E-Cards.com > http://www.messianicecards.com/ > > Hmm, OK. Xurxo is right, Edgy is no where near as stable as Dapper, but thats to be expected. -Rashid From paul at basilisk.ukfsn.org Sat Oct 28 17:56:08 2006 From: paul at basilisk.ukfsn.org (Paul Worrall) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:56:08 +0100 Subject: SWAT-http://localhost:901/ In-Reply-To: <20061027214714.17741.qmail@web82812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061027214714.17741.qmail@web82812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610281856.08783.paul@basilisk.ukfsn.org> On Friday 27 October 2006 22:47, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > I must be doing something wrong as entering: > http://localhost:901/ in my web browser doesn't bring > up the swat program. It gives this error(konqueror and > mozilla): > The connection was refused... for mozilla and > Could not connect to host localhost (port 901). for > konq > Can someone please tell me what I must do to run swat. > Have read the swat man which says to add the above and > also googled on the address but no answers only snide > replyies to read the how to ask questions link and > some untranslatable posts. I have successfully used > swat in the past but if I had to do something special > it excapes me. Some things to check: 1. Do you have a file '/etc/inetd.conf' and does it contain a line something like this: swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/swat 2. Is inetd running? sudo /etc/init.d/inetd start 3. There is nothing in '/etc/hosts.deny' and '/etc/hosts.allow' that would prevent access from localhost. (on my system, these files contain nothing but comments) -- Paul From jongleur at liripipe.com Sat Oct 28 18:17:51 2006 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:17:51 -0700 Subject: perl error after edgy upgrade Message-ID: <200610281117.51926.jongleur@liripipe.com> I've been getting the following both during and after the Edgy upgrade /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:         LANGUAGE = "en",         LC_ALL = (unset),         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"     are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). Would appreciate some advice on how to fix this. Thanks, John Vifian -- It has been said that the primary function of schools is to impart enough facts to make children stop asking questions. Some, with whom the schools do not succeed, become scientists. - Knut Schmidt-Nielson From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Oct 28 18:17:39 2006 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:17:39 -0400 Subject: konqueror auto refresh Message-ID: <200610281417.39306.pkaplan1@comcast.net> In kde 3.5.3 there was an entry under the tools menu to enable auto refresh of web pages. It seems to have disappeared under 3.5.5. Maybe someone else knows where it is? TIA Paul From brymelvin at melvinart.com Sat Oct 28 18:22:02 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20061028122921.99516.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061028182202.74804.qmail@web33509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:15:45 +1300 > > From: Rebel Lion > > > Rebel Lion wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) > > Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > > > > Just discovered that Seamonkey is the new > Mozilla > > > Suite. > > > It's not available, AFAICT, in Kubuntu. > > > Will we get it on (K)ubuntu eventually as it is > > > supposed to get mozilla browser to play embeds > > which > > > currently don't play for me. > > > Any guidance/links on this is appreciated. > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Leonard Chatagnier > > > lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net > > > > > > > You can always install it yourself from the > tar.gz > > > > Hey RebelLion, > Thanks for the reply. I may try to compile it but > need > some info before I do as have done so only once and > a > nice person held my hand and walked me through it. > I have mplayerplug-in-3.31 cvs compiled installed > and > don't know how to uninstall it. Some guidance/links > in > this regard would help. Also, mplayerplug-in-3.31 > doesn't make mozilla browser play embedds in Kubuntu > which is why I want to try Seamonkey. > Also do I have to uninstall mozilla suite before > compiling and installing Seamonkey? Any other > programs > needed to uninstall? > Sorry to ask these basic questions but they are > beyond > my experienc level. Any suggestions would be > helpful. > > Leonard Chatagnier > lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > You don't have to install the source...there is a tar.gz that is a binary set. You can install it in /opt /usr/local/ or even in your home directory. I do the latter sometimes if I anticipate backports catching up with what I added. (ex firefox 1.5 on breezy) It helps keeping something in the home directroy for a while. Bryann From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Oct 28 18:30:37 2006 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:30:37 +0200 Subject: Filesystem In-Reply-To: References: <4451EC83.2020504@torstencalvi.com> Message-ID: <4543A1CD.8080602@rmk.co.il> Scott wrote: > PTCC spake thusly on 04/28/2006 03:20 AM: >> Dear All, >> >> I wanted to ask for help, I have a problem accessing my CDROM on Kubuntu >> when I load the CD on the CDROM it says Error-Conqueror could not mount >> device The reported error was "mount unknown filesystem type 'iso9660 >> > > Try this and see if it helps. > > $ sudo rm /media/.hidden > > nigel at nigels:~$ sudo mv /media/.hidden /media/.hiddenOLD Password: mv: cannot stat `/media/.hidden': No such file or directory (I don't like the 'rm' option :-)) Blessings, Nigel -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ Messianic E-Cards.com http://www.messianicecards.com/ From frode at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 28 18:46:40 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:46:40 +0200 Subject: konqueror auto refresh In-Reply-To: <200610281417.39306.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200610281417.39306.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200610282046.42126.frode@ubuntu.com> Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 20:17, skrev Paul Kaplan: > In kde 3.5.3 there was an entry under the tools menu to enable auto refresh > of web pages. It seems to have disappeared under 3.5.5. Maybe someone > else knows where it is? > TIA > Paul In Konqueror go to: Settings -> Configure Extensions -> Tools [tab] -> check the Auto Refresh Plugin box. -> Apply -> OK Now it's there. - Frode From frode at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 28 18:52:11 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:52:11 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy icons missing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610282052.12316.frode@ubuntu.com> Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 13:51, skrev Hans Poppe: > Hi, > I've just updated (actually I formatted and reinstalled all except /home) > and in Kubuntu 6.06 I had an icon for the ethernet and the wifi cards on > the taskbar in the lower right corner, next to the clock. It's not there > anymoe and I miss them. Could anyone help me in finding them? They wewe > nice to have. [cut] Try to install the 'knemo' package. It's in the universe repository. Information on adding repostiories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - Frode From frode at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 28 18:54:43 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 20:54:43 +0200 Subject: Where is KDAR and KOPETE for edgy? In-Reply-To: <200610281147.48502.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610281147.48502.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610282054.44328.frode@ubuntu.com> Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 18:47, skrev Howard Coles Jr.: > I need kdar, as my backups are in dar archives. > I'm also wondering about where kopete is for edgy because its now showing > up under "local and obsolete"? [cut] kdar is in the universe repository. Information on how to add repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu kopete is in the main repository, which should be enabled by default if you had a internet connection while installing. If not, follow the guide in the link I provided. - Frode From frode at ubuntu.com Sat Oct 28 19:02:21 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:02:21 +0200 Subject: perl error after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <200610281117.51926.jongleur@liripipe.com> References: <200610281117.51926.jongleur@liripipe.com> Message-ID: <200610282102.24138.frode@ubuntu.com> Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 20:17, skrev John L Vifian: > I've been getting the following both during and after the Edgy upgrade > > /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd: > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: >         LANGUAGE = "en", >         LC_ALL = (unset), >         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" >     are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > > Would appreciate some advice on how to fix this. [cut] You can get the 'localeconf' package from the universe repository. From konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) $ sudo apt-get install localeconf If that gives you a dialog to select and configure locales you can safely ignore the next step. If not, continue: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf For information on how to add repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - Frode From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Oct 28 19:25:34 2006 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:25:34 -0400 Subject: How do I run a script on a file from right click? In-Reply-To: <45437CE9.8070004@sklinks.com> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <1162041417.6376.1.camel@localhost> <45437CE9.8070004@sklinks.com> Message-ID: <200610281525.34250.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 11:53 am, Vayu wrote: > In Gnome I can right click and there will be an option for scripts. I > have one there for editing a file as root and I have one for browsing a > directory as root. How/can I do it in KDE? Here, I only glanced at this, but it looks like it's got the right stuff in it: http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000172 -- D. Michael McIntyre Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ See my new music stand unfolding at http://users.adelphia.net/~silvan/ From jongleur at liripipe.com Sat Oct 28 19:29:20 2006 From: jongleur at liripipe.com (John L Vifian) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 12:29:20 -0700 Subject: perl error after edgy upgrade In-Reply-To: <200610282102.24138.frode@ubuntu.com> References: <200610281117.51926.jongleur@liripipe.com> <200610282102.24138.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200610281229.21064.jongleur@liripipe.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 12:02 pm, Frode M. Døving wrote: > From konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) > $ sudo apt-get install localeconf > If that gives you a dialog to select and configure locales you can safely > ignore the next step. If not, continue: > > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf Seems to have worked. thanks! John -- It's all right letting yourself go, as long as you can get yourself back. Mick Jagger From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Sat Oct 28 19:42:26 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Rebel Lion) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 08:42:26 +1300 Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: <20061028122921.99516.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061028122921.99516.qmail@web82803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061029084226.57d13a54@tscii> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > Hey RebelLion, > Thanks for the reply. I may try to compile it but need > some info before I do as have done so only once and a > nice person held my hand and walked me through it. > I have mplayerplug-in-3.31 cvs compiled installed and > don't know how to uninstall it. Some guidance/links in > this regard would help. Also, mplayerplug-in-3.31 > doesn't make mozilla browser play embedds in Kubuntu > which is why I want to try Seamonkey. > Also do I have to uninstall mozilla suite before > compiling and installing Seamonkey? Any other programs > needed to uninstall? You don't need to uninstall anything to try out seamonkey. Just download the .tar.gz. Then sudo mv seamonkey hit tab to autocomplete to /usr/local/ cd to /usr/local/ ls sea* to make sure it is there and you are in the right place. sudo tar zvxf seamonk here hit the tab key it will autocomplete and it will untar into its own directory. You can then call it from there or add an icon to your desktop or taskbar or where ever you want. Or you can put a symlink in say /usr/bin/ to it. To do this cd /usr/bin/ then sudo ln -s /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey Re the mplayer I don't have it, but do you have the mozilla-plugins installed and are they in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins directory ? From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Oct 28 19:56:13 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:56:13 -0500 Subject: Where is KDAR and KOPETE for edgy? In-Reply-To: <200610282054.44328.frode@ubuntu.com> References: <200610281147.48502.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610282054.44328.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200610281456.13190.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 1:54 pm, Frode M. Døving wrote: > Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 18:47, skrev Howard Coles Jr.: > > I need kdar, as my backups are in dar archives. > > I'm also wondering about where kopete is for edgy because its now > > showing up under "local and obsolete"? > > [cut] > > kdar is in the universe repository. > Information on how to add repositories: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu > > kopete is in the main repository, which should be enabled by default if you > had a internet connection while installing. If not, follow the guide in the > link I provided. > > - Frode Something is messed up about my apt database. Well, I think it is. However, I was able to install kopete properly only after removing the old one, and I can't install kdar because libdar3c2a is not installable. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sat Oct 28 20:53:54 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 13:53:54 -0700 Subject: Edgy and flash References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <87k62kgo0t.fsf@fjellstad.org> Nigel Ridley writes: > I have tried to visit a couple of sites that use Flash 7 but they > immediately crash firefox and Konq just sort of sits there and won't > load the site properly. > > The two sites are: > http://www.fox.co.il/ > and > http://kehilat-hamaayan.org.il/ > > Anybody else having problems with edgy? "Works" here. Edgy and flash 9, both firefox and konq. I have problems with www.fox.co.il, in that once it gets past the intro page, I get a white page. I see no problem with the other site. Neither browsers crash, though. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sat Oct 28 22:13:59 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:13:59 -0700 Subject: OOo 2.0.4 References: <200610210735.13189.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <20061021190612.2941.qmail@web33515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3dde113c0610221820i130139c1qc51a60f52692c0be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87d58c6qc8.fsf@fjellstad.org> "John DeCarlo" writes: > OTOH, I believe 2.04 is in Edgy, so you could try adding Edgy > repositories temporarily just to install it. It's a bad idea to mix and match releases like this. It works somewhat with Debian testing and unstable because they are pretty close together. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 00:02:38 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:02:38 -0500 Subject: OOo 2.0.4 In-Reply-To: <87d58c6qc8.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <200610210735.13189.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <3dde113c0610221820i130139c1qc51a60f52692c0be@mail.gmail.com> <87d58c6qc8.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200610281902.38926.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 5:13 pm, John L Fjellstad wrote: > "John DeCarlo" writes: > > OTOH, I believe 2.04 is in Edgy, so you could try adding Edgy > > repositories temporarily just to install it. > > It's a bad idea to mix and match releases like this. It works somewhat > with Debian testing and unstable because they are pretty close > together. Well, I wouldn't do it on a machine I "needed" first, but you could try it. I've mixed Debian's Sarge, Etch and Sid before without problems, however it was very few packages from either edge. However, I just decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Edgy on my laptop and give it a go. So far so good. There are some issues, libdar3c2a isn't in Edgy yet, so don't mess with it if you need kdar. Mostly minor stuff. So, right now I have mostly Edgy stuff, but some Dapper stuff. Works pretty good. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From lists at wordit.com Sun Oct 29 00:37:27 2006 From: lists at wordit.com (marcus) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:37:27 +0200 Subject: Where is KDAR and KOPETE for edgy? In-Reply-To: <200610281456.13190.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610281147.48502.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610282054.44328.frode@ubuntu.com> <200610281456.13190.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610290237.28496.lists@wordit.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 21:56, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > However, I was able to install kopete properly only after removing > the old one, and I can't install kdar because libdar3c2a is not > installable. You can always build it from source. Marcus From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Sun Oct 29 02:30:41 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Dion LeBlanc) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:30:41 +1300 Subject: Move to edgy Message-ID: <200610291530.41737.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> It hasn't been good for me and it is making me reconsider my distro. Flash in firefox or konqueror does not work for me and several sites either crash firefox or the flash just does not work in konqueror. Then there is the completely anal .hidden file in the root directory that stops you browsing anything apart from media and your own home directory. If you install and app from a tar.gz for instance you can't create and icon on the desktop by browsing for the executable, what genius in the developement team came up with that stupid idea. Up until now kubuntu has been a good straight foreward distro but this sort of customisation is not good for kubuntu or for linux in general. Note I have been using linux for 6 years or more and for the last 4 have not had windows on this computer at all, so I am definitely no newbie. I know I can delete the .hidden file but having to do this to make the distro work properly is a large jump backwards for that distro. David who unless he can figure out how to fix flash will be going back to debian or Fedora From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 02:31:56 2006 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 19:31:56 -0700 Subject: dapper upgrade to edgy, emacs not functioning Message-ID: <20061028193156.7005b888@rodney-desktop> Since I upgraded from dapper to edgy yesterday, now my emacs has some funky fonts. I've reinstalled emacs as before, but that did not help. Any suggestions? Thanks -- Rodney D. Myers Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 02:48:14 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:48:14 -0500 Subject: Where is KDAR and KOPETE for edgy? In-Reply-To: <200610290237.28496.lists@wordit.com> References: <200610281147.48502.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610281456.13190.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610290237.28496.lists@wordit.com> Message-ID: <200610282148.14890.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 7:37 pm, marcus wrote: > On Saturday 28 October 2006 21:56, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > However, I was able to install kopete properly only after removing > > the old one, and I can't install kdar because libdar3c2a is not > > installable. > > You can always build it from source. > > Marcus If I were going to do that I'd run gentoo. Or, linux from scratch. My point was someone has either left off a needed library, or something is wrong in my apt database. I took care of this issue by putting the dapper repos back into my sources.list file. Apparently the same effort hasn't quite been put into the edgy ones yet that was put into dapper. And this is all understandable, edgy hasn't been out that long, and has some pretty new stuff in it. I think they've done much better with edgy than I ever could have. I like it, so far. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 02:54:46 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:54:46 -0500 Subject: Move to edgy In-Reply-To: <200610291530.41737.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> References: <200610291530.41737.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <200610282154.46994.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Saturday 28 October 2006 9:30 pm, Dion LeBlanc wrote: > It hasn't been good for me and it is making me reconsider my distro. > Flash in firefox or konqueror does not work for me and several sites either > crash firefox or the flash just does not work in konqueror. Then there is > the completely anal .hidden file in the root directory that stops you > browsing anything apart from media and your own home directory. If you > install and app from a tar.gz for instance you can't create and icon on the > desktop by browsing for the executable, what genius in the developement > team came up with that stupid idea. Up until now kubuntu has been a good > straight foreward distro but this sort of customisation is not good for > kubuntu or for linux in general. Note I have been using linux for 6 years > or more and for the last 4 have not had windows on this computer at all, so > I am definitely no newbie. I know I can delete the .hidden file but having > to do this to make the distro work properly is a large jump backwards for > that distro. > > > David who unless he can figure out how to fix flash will be going back to > debian or Fedora Why not just step back to dapper? I know Flash worked in Dapper, unless you're talking about the flash 9 beta. Then I'd tell ya' your probably going to have the same crash problems with firefox no matter what distro you use. However, I agree with you on the .hidden thing. That is one STUPID "feature". I'd think they'd want to create a package quite in a hurry that would do away with that, and redo the iso images and get rid of that as well. I think it was a VERY unwelcome feature to say the least. I haven't heard of anyone who likes it. Especially considering that in Firefox you have that CRAPPY dialog box that forces you to browse to the /usr/bin directory to find "xine" or "mplayer" (or whatever other app for whatever other file you want to use for an example) for some files. The problem being you can't because you can't see /usr. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From rbmorse at comcast.net Sun Oct 29 03:25:50 2006 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:25:50 -0600 Subject: Move to edgy In-Reply-To: <200610291530.41737.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> References: <200610291530.41737.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <200610282125.50412.rbmorse@comcast.net> I didn't have any luck with Flash from respository, but the Flash9 beta from the Adobe website works fine. I recommend uninstalling all flash related packages from repository first, RBM On Saturday 28 October 2006 20:30, Dion LeBlanc wrote: > It hasn't been good for me and it is making me > reconsider my distro. Flash in firefox or konqueror does > not work for me and several sites either crash firefox or > the flash just does not work in konqueror. Then there is > the completely anal .hidden file in the root directory > that stops you browsing anything apart from media and > your own home directory. If you install and app from a > tar.gz for instance you can't create and icon on the > desktop by browsing for the executable, what genius in > the developement team came up with that stupid idea. Up > until now kubuntu has been a good straight foreward > distro but this sort of customisation is not good for > kubuntu or for linux in general. Note I have been using > linux for 6 years or more and for the last 4 have not > had windows on this computer at all, so I am definitely > no newbie. I know I can delete the .hidden file but > having to do this to make the distro work properly is a > large jump backwards for that distro. > > > David who unless he can figure out how to fix flash will > be going back to debian or Fedora From stevenp500 at bellsouth.net Sun Oct 29 03:50:20 2006 From: stevenp500 at bellsouth.net (Steven Pasternak) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:50:20 -0400 Subject: cdrom0 folder doesn't leave the desktop after the cd is ejected Message-ID: <454424FC.1080301@bellsouth.net> Hi! I just upgraded from dapper to edgy, and since then, the cdrom0 folder doesn't get off my desktop even after I unmount the cd. The icon just changes from a cd to a folder. I tried refreshing the desktop, but it was no good. How do I fix this? Thanks! -Steven From rdmyers.42 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 04:07:13 2006 From: rdmyers.42 at gmail.com (Rodney D. Myers) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:07:13 -0700 Subject: cdrom0 folder doesn't leave the desktop after the cd is ejected In-Reply-To: <454424FC.1080301@bellsouth.net> References: <454424FC.1080301@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20061028210713.77d81c6d@rodney-desktop> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:50:20 -0400 Steven Pasternak wrote: > Hi! I just upgraded from dapper to edgy, and since then, the cdrom0 > folder doesn't get off my desktop even after I unmount the cd. The icon > just changes from a cd to a folder. I tried refreshing the desktop, but > it was no good. How do I fix this? Thanks! > -Steven > You need to remove the directory/file in the media directory. Did the same thing to 2 of my usb drives. once I removed the directories, they disappeared -- Rodney D. Myers Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. 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The reason I'm upset is because it appears that this new setup doesn't spin up the fans on my laptop in time to keep the processor cool enough, and its just shutting itself off because of heat. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From vayu at sklinks.com Sun Oct 29 06:58:51 2006 From: vayu at sklinks.com (Vayu) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:58:51 -0700 Subject: How do I run a script on a file from right click? In-Reply-To: <200610282154.46994.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610291530.41737.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> <200610282154.46994.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4544512B.7020104@sklinks.com> In Gnome I can right click and there will be an option for scripts. I have one there for editing a file as root and I have one for browsing a directory as root. How/can I do it in KDE? From kubuntu at cliff1976.com Sun Oct 29 09:01:33 2006 From: kubuntu at cliff1976.com (cliff1976) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:01:33 +0100 Subject: Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu Edgy Eft - tab management Message-ID: <58e4f2180610290101q31d44767u6535f7cd5b891e49@mail.gmail.com> Is anyone else having trouble under Edgy (clean install from an ISO CD download) getting Firefox 2.0 to do the tabs properly? Under Firefox 1.5 I had no trouble, but now, even though I have the tabs options set properly under Edit --> Preferences --> Tabs every hyperlink I click on that is supposed to open in a new window (target="_new") and used to get overridden to open in a new tab in an existing window actually does get opened in a new window (i.e., the tab options overriding the "new window" behavior appear to have no effect). Here's a screenshot of my Tabs settings: http://www.cliff1976.net/ff-2.0-tabs.png I used the Firefox 2.0 package from the repository. Anyone else seeing this? It's *really* annoying (makes me want to run back to Opera). I'd install Firefox 2.0 from http://getfirefox.com if I knew how to compare and see if that makes any difference, but I'm kind of reliant on packages to install stuff for me. I'm thankful for all tips! Cliff -- _____________________________________ Get the latest scoop on us at: http://www.regensblog.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rashid786 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 09:13:35 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Md. Rashid ul Islam) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:13:35 +0100 Subject: Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu Edgy Eft - tab management In-Reply-To: <58e4f2180610290101q31d44767u6535f7cd5b891e49@mail.gmail.com> References: <58e4f2180610290101q31d44767u6535f7cd5b891e49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610290913.35998.rashid786@gmail.com> On Sunday 29 October 2006 09:01, cliff1976 wrote: > Is anyone else having trouble under Edgy (clean install from an ISO CD > download) getting Firefox 2.0 to do the tabs properly? Under Firefox 1.5 I > had no trouble, but now, even though I have the tabs options set properly > under Edit --> Preferences --> Tabs every hyperlink I click on that is > supposed to open in a new window (target="_new") and used to get overridden > to open in a new tab in an existing window actually does get opened in a > new window (i.e., the tab options overriding the "new window" behavior > appear to have no effect). Here's a screenshot of my Tabs settings: > http://www.cliff1976.net/ff-2.0-tabs.png > > I used the Firefox 2.0 package from the repository. Anyone else seeing > this? It's *really* annoying (makes me want to run back to Opera). I'd > install Firefox 2.0 from http://getfirefox.com if I knew how to compare and > see if that makes any difference, but I'm kind of reliant on packages to > install stuff for me. > > I'm thankful for all tips! > Cliff Hi Cliff Its actually really easy to install from the .tar.gz Its the binary installer, no compilation necessary. Download the .tar.gz from www.getfirefox.com and save it to your Desktop. Then open a console (K Menu > System > Konsole) then enter the following: cd ~/Desktop tar -xvzf firefox-2.0.tar.gz sudo cp firefox /opt cd /opt/firefox chmod a+x firefox ./firefox And thats it! Hope that helps :) Post back if you run into any problems -Rashid From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Sun Oct 29 09:23:02 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Dion LeBlanc) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:23:02 +1300 Subject: Edgy and flash In-Reply-To: <14cf5ea70610281034o203e2863qc2eff4f88f47638@mail.gmail.com> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <45437BD8.3060203@rmk.co.il> <14cf5ea70610281034o203e2863qc2eff4f88f47638@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610292223.03194.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> On Sunday 29 October 2006 06:34, Rashid ul Islam wrote: > > > > > Messianic E-Cards.com > > http://www.messianicecards.com/ > > Hmm, OK. Xurxo is right, Edgy is no where near as stable as Dapper, > but thats to be expected. > > -Rashid Why ? It's in relaease, unstable is for testing. From hans at poppe.nu Sun Oct 29 09:22:44 2006 From: hans at poppe.nu (Hans Poppe) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:22:44 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Edgy icons missing References: <200610282052.12316.frode@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: Frode M. Døving wisely stated: > Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 13:51, skrev Hans Poppe: >> Hi, >> I've just updated (actually I formatted and reinstalled all except /home) >> and in Kubuntu 6.06 I had an icon for the ethernet and the wifi cards on >> the taskbar in the lower right corner, next to the clock. It's not there >> anymoe and I miss them. Could anyone help me in finding them? They wewe >> nice to have. > [cut] > > Try to install the 'knemo' package. > It's in the universe repository. > > Information on adding repostiories: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu > > - Frode > That was the one! Thank you for your help. Hans -- *************** Nil conscire sibi, nulla pallecere culpa! From rashid786 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 09:31:04 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Md. Rashid ul Islam) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:31:04 +0100 Subject: Edgy and flash In-Reply-To: <200610292223.03194.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> References: <45426758.4040700@rmk.co.il> <14cf5ea70610281034o203e2863qc2eff4f88f47638@mail.gmail.com> <200610292223.03194.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <200610290931.05009.rashid786@gmail.com> On Sunday 29 October 2006 09:23, Dion LeBlanc wrote: > On Sunday 29 October 2006 06:34, Rashid ul Islam wrote: > > > Messianic E-Cards.com > > > http://www.messianicecards.com/ > > > > Hmm, OK. Xurxo is right, Edgy is no where near as stable as Dapper, > > but thats to be expected. > > > > -Rashid > > Why ? It's in relaease, unstable is for testing. I guess thats something you're gonna have to take up with the developers ;) Dapper Drake was meant to be the Long Term Suppoer (LTS) version of Ubuntu for users who want stability (businesses, servers, me :D) Thats exactly what Dapper was, very stable (thats why they added the extra 2 months of development). Edgy is the complete opposite of Dapper, it had a 2 month REDUCED development cycle, and its name should give it away: Edgy. Its bleeding edge, and pretty unstable (compared to Dapper) I am gonna wait until Feisty Fawn to upgrade...till then, I'm sticking with Dapper :) Good "luck" ;) -Rashid From kubuntu at cliff1976.com Sun Oct 29 10:16:23 2006 From: kubuntu at cliff1976.com (cliff1976) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:16:23 +0100 Subject: Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu Edgy Eft - tab management Message-ID: <58e4f2180610290216o595befdat210df83cc4f66c58@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rashid and everyone, Thanks for the tip. The only thing in your instructions I had to modify was to do a "cp -r" instead of just "cp" to recursively copy the firefox directory into /opt/ (figured that out for myself). The good news: Firefox 2.0 is now working properly with regard to tab managment. I am pleased. The bad news: installing it this way makes it look *so*ugly* with regard to fonts. The Ubuntu package for Firefox 2.0 made the fonts used conform to the rest of KDE, but this binary installer version uses something terrible - character kerning is inconsistent and difficult to read. And the monospace fonts look even worse. Can anyone else confirm the behavior I was seeing earlier, where the Ubuntu package of Firefox 2.0 was not doing tabs properly? Or was it just me? I am going to have to make a tough decision here to see which is worse - lousy fonts or no tabs. I am looking, but so far have found no option in the Firefox menus to change the default fonts (Bitstream Vera or whatever was default in Edgy was nice, I'd like to go back to that if I can). Thanks for the help with the manual installation though - that at least is something different, if not better. Cliff > Hi Cliff > > Its actually really easy to install from the .tar.gz Its the binary installer, > no compilation necessary. > > Download the .tar.gz from www.getfirefox.com and save it to your Desktop. Then > open a console (K Menu > System > Konsole) then enter the following: > cd ~/Desktop > tar -xvzf firefox-2.0.tar.gz > sudo cp firefox /opt > cd /opt/firefox > chmod a+x firefox > ./firefox > > And thats it! > > Hope that helps :) Post back if you run into any problems > From kubuntu at cliff1976.com Sun Oct 29 10:25:05 2006 From: kubuntu at cliff1976.com (cliff1976) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:25:05 +0100 Subject: Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu Edgy Eft - tab management In-Reply-To: <58e4f2180610290216o595befdat210df83cc4f66c58@mail.gmail.com> References: <58e4f2180610290216o595befdat210df83cc4f66c58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58e4f2180610290225r305eb820n104270ff3d51dd6b@mail.gmail.com> Sorry for the intrusion. I found the fonts settings in Firefox (it was right under my nose), so please ignore my previous message with regard to the fonts. Still, I'd like to know if there was anyone else whose tabs weren't working right under Firefox 2.0 (package from the Edgy repository). Thanks, Cliff *Happy With Firefox Once Again* On 10/29/06, cliff1976 wrote: > Hi Rashid and everyone, > > Thanks for the tip. The only thing in your instructions I had to > modify was to do a "cp -r" instead of just "cp" to recursively copy > the firefox directory into /opt/ (figured that out for myself). > > The good news: Firefox 2.0 is now working properly with regard to tab > managment. I am pleased. > > The bad news: installing it this way makes it look *so*ugly* with > regard to fonts. The Ubuntu package for Firefox 2.0 made the fonts > used conform to the rest of KDE, but this binary installer version > uses something terrible - character kerning is inconsistent and > difficult to read. And the monospace fonts look even worse. > > Can anyone else confirm the behavior I was seeing earlier, where the > Ubuntu package of Firefox 2.0 was not doing tabs properly? Or was it > just me? I am going to have to make a tough decision here to see > which is worse - lousy fonts or no tabs. I am looking, but so far > have found no option in the Firefox menus to change the default fonts > (Bitstream Vera or whatever was default in Edgy was nice, I'd like to > go back to that if I can). > > Thanks for the help with the manual installation though - that at > least is something different, if not better. > > Cliff > > > Hi Cliff > > > > Its actually really easy to install from the .tar.gz Its the binary installer, > > no compilation necessary. > > > > Download the .tar.gz from www.getfirefox.com and save it to your Desktop. Then > > open a console (K Menu > System > Konsole) then enter the following: > > cd ~/Desktop > > tar -xvzf firefox-2.0.tar.gz > > sudo cp firefox /opt > > cd /opt/firefox > > chmod a+x firefox > > ./firefox > > > > And thats it! > > > > Hope that helps :) Post back if you run into any problems > > > -- _____________________________________ Get the latest scoop on us at: http://www.regensblog.com From frode at ubuntu.com Sun Oct 29 12:32:15 2006 From: frode at ubuntu.com (Frode M. =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F8ving?=) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:32:15 +0100 Subject: Where is KDAR and KOPETE for edgy? In-Reply-To: <200610281456.13190.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610281147.48502.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200610282054.44328.frode@ubuntu.com> <200610281456.13190.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610291332.16719.frode@ubuntu.com> Lørdag 28 oktober 2006 21:56, skrev Howard Coles Jr.: [cut] > Something is messed up about my apt database. Well, I think it is. > > However, I was able to install kopete properly only after removing the old > one, and I can't install kdar because libdar3c2a is not installable. [cut] That is a bug. libdar3c2a is missing from the repos. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdar/+bug/62699 - Frode From rashid786 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 12:41:47 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Rashid ul Islam) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:41:47 +0000 Subject: Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu Edgy Eft - tab management In-Reply-To: <58e4f2180610290225r305eb820n104270ff3d51dd6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <58e4f2180610290216o595befdat210df83cc4f66c58@mail.gmail.com> <58e4f2180610290225r305eb820n104270ff3d51dd6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14cf5ea70610290441q3f686373kdd28e980392ec5e9@mail.gmail.com> On 29/10/06, cliff1976 wrote: > Sorry for the intrusion. I found the fonts settings in Firefox (it > was right under my nose), so please ignore my previous message with > regard to the fonts. > > Still, I'd like to know if there was anyone else whose tabs weren't > working right under Firefox 2.0 (package from the Edgy repository). > > Thanks, > Cliff > *Happy With Firefox Once Again* > > On 10/29/06, cliff1976 wrote: > > Hi Rashid and everyone, > > > > Thanks for the tip. The only thing in your instructions I had to > > modify was to do a "cp -r" instead of just "cp" to recursively copy > > the firefox directory into /opt/ (figured that out for myself). > > > > The good news: Firefox 2.0 is now working properly with regard to tab > > managment. I am pleased. > > > > The bad news: installing it this way makes it look *so*ugly* with > > regard to fonts. The Ubuntu package for Firefox 2.0 made the fonts > > used conform to the rest of KDE, but this binary installer version > > uses something terrible - character kerning is inconsistent and > > difficult to read. And the monospace fonts look even worse. > > > > Can anyone else confirm the behavior I was seeing earlier, where the > > Ubuntu package of Firefox 2.0 was not doing tabs properly? Or was it > > just me? I am going to have to make a tough decision here to see > > which is worse - lousy fonts or no tabs. I am looking, but so far > > have found no option in the Firefox menus to change the default fonts > > (Bitstream Vera or whatever was default in Edgy was nice, I'd like to > > go back to that if I can). > > > > Thanks for the help with the manual installation though - that at > > least is something different, if not better. > > > > Cliff > > > > > Hi Cliff > > > > > > Its actually really easy to install from the .tar.gz Its the binary installer, > > > no compilation necessary. > > > > > > Download the .tar.gz from www.getfirefox.com and save it to your Desktop. Then > > > open a console (K Menu > System > Konsole) then enter the following: > > > cd ~/Desktop > > > tar -xvzf firefox-2.0.tar.gz > > > sudo cp firefox /opt > > > cd /opt/firefox > > > chmod a+x firefox > > > ./firefox > > > > > > And thats it! > > > > > > Hope that helps :) Post back if you run into any problems > > > > > > > > -- > _____________________________________ > Get the latest scoop on us at: > http://www.regensblog.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Oops, I meant to put the -r switch, in fact I tested the command myself and found I needed the switch but must have forgotten to add it in *doh* Glad you managed to get it fixed. I changed the font as well...I use Arial. I know its a microsoft font, but its nice :) Good 'luck' :) -Rashid From lure at ubuntu.com Sun Oct 29 13:00:32 2006 From: lure at ubuntu.com (Luka Renko) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 14:00:32 +0100 Subject: Power Management In-Reply-To: <200610282312.59833.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610282312.59833.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610290800.32499.lure@ubuntu.com> On Sunday 29 October 2006 00:12, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > I'm wondering, How in the world do you set Processor profiles with this new > power management app? You cannot change them with guidance powermanager. You can either go with klaptop or kpowersave if you need this. I have added this request to specification for Feisty and this will be discussed next week in UDS MtView: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuFeistyLaptop > I'm missing libraries, I had to figure out how to see my directories in /, I know this may be problematic for power users, but this change was done to reduce confusion for not so experienced users - see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuHiddenFiles > and now with this stupid "generic" kernel and "guidance" power manager I > have NO CPU speed settings. I can't control the screen brightness, nor do > I have 1/5th the options to control the processor that I had before. Did you submit the bug for brightness problem? Is it maybe related to this: https://launchpad.net/bugs/68617 > The reason I'm upset is because it appears that this new setup doesn't spin > up the fans on my laptop in time to keep the processor cool enough, and its > just shutting itself off because of heat. This is probably the issue of kernel or ACPI implementation. You may want to play with changing the trigger points for the fans. And you should submit a bug as mailing list is not perfect location for bug handling. Regards, Luka From johndecarlo at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 14:20:23 2006 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:20:23 -0500 Subject: Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu Edgy Eft - tab management In-Reply-To: <58e4f2180610290101q31d44767u6535f7cd5b891e49@mail.gmail.com> References: <58e4f2180610290101q31d44767u6535f7cd5b891e49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0610290620q551bf81dl651c130c439b13da@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/06, cliff1976 wrote: > Is anyone else having trouble under Edgy (clean install from an ISO CD > download) getting Firefox 2.0 to do the tabs properly? Under Firefox 1.5 I I can not say with certainty, but this whole controversy between Debian and Mozilla has led me to stop using Ubuntu or Debian packages for Mozilla. I have complained about how packagers "change" things for years now, but this pushed me over the edge. No longer do I have to worry about why something doesn't work and try to undo some change the packager made. -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own From Chiphazard56 at aol.com Sun Oct 29 14:39:50 2006 From: Chiphazard56 at aol.com (Chiphazard56 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 09:39:50 EST Subject: k9copy Message-ID: hi all i recently installed k9copy & all its dependencies it works to read discs ok but it will notcopy using k3b how do i do this as i only have one disc reader ,writer any help appreciated regards henjin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 29 14:57:22 2006 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 06:57:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061029145722.88240.qmail@web82809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Leonard Chatagnier spake thusly on 10/28/2006 05:29 > AM: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:15:45 +1300 > >> From: Rebel Lion > > > >> Rebel Lion wrote: > >> On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) > >> Leonard Chatagnier > wrote: > >> > >>> Just discovered that Seamonkey is the new > Mozilla > >>> Suite. > >>> It's not available, AFAICT, in Kubuntu. > >>> Will we get it on (K)ubuntu eventually as it is > >>> supposed to get mozilla browser to play embeds > >> which > >>> currently don't play for me. > >>> Any guidance/links on this is appreciated. > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> Leonard Chatagnier > >>> lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net > >>> > >> You can always install it yourself from the > tar.gz > >> > >> Hey RebelLion, > > Thanks for the reply. I may try to compile it but > need > > some info before I do as have done so only once > and a > > nice person held my hand and walked me through it. > > Personally I prefer Firefox and Thunderbird. > Seamonkey reminds me of > Netscape circa 1998. > > In any event the tarball that was suggested isn't > source code. It's the > binary installer. > > http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1a/seamonkey-1.1a.en-US.linux-i686.installer.tar.gz > > There's also an installer that is just an installer. > It downloads the > rest for you and install it. You can select which > components you want. > > http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.1a/seamonkey-1.1a.en-US.linux-i686.stub-installer.tar.gz > > > > -- > Scott > www.angrykeyboarder.com > ? 2006 angrykeyboarder? & Elmer Fudd. All Wights > Wesewved > Thanks Scott for the clarification. You can tell I lack how to knowledge when it goes beyond using the packaging maintainers to install programs. Now I wont be so reluctant to install Seamonkey. I still don't know how to uninstall the compiled cvs version of mplayerplug-in-3.31 and maybe someone will comment on that, too. As far as preferences go, I feel as Tony does as stated in the post following yours. That's whats great about linux, you can alway find what you prefer. I now use firefox cause it plays the embedds that mozilla browser doesn't; only the adds. Wish I new why because I still like the look and feel of mozilla browser. Thanks again for the clarification I needed; much appreciated. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sun Oct 29 14:33:12 2006 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 06:33:12 -0800 Subject: OOo 2.0.4 References: <200610210735.13189.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <3dde113c0610221820i130139c1qc51a60f52692c0be@mail.gmail.com> <87d58c6qc8.fsf@fjellstad.org> <200610281902.38926.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87u01n19av.fsf@fjellstad.org> "Howard Coles Jr." writes: > Well, I wouldn't do it on a machine I "needed" first, but you could > try it. I've mixed Debian's Sarge, Etch and Sid before without > problems, however it was very few packages from either edge. Well, it depends on the package. I usually don't have problems mixing testing and unstable. I would never mix stable and testing/unstable though, but again it depends on the package and its dependecies. Mixing stuff that requires newer libc or glibc++ is just asking for trouble. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From vayu at sklinks.com Sun Oct 29 15:57:22 2006 From: vayu at sklinks.com (Vayu) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:57:22 -0800 Subject: Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu Edgy Eft - tab management In-Reply-To: <58e4f2180610290225r305eb820n104270ff3d51dd6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <58e4f2180610290216o595befdat210df83cc4f66c58@mail.gmail.com> <58e4f2180610290225r305eb820n104270ff3d51dd6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4544CF62.8050401@sklinks.com> If you want to have firefox and its icons fit in better with KDE: Go to tools/themes and then click the link for "Get More Themes". That will pull up a web page. Keep searching until you find "Mostly Crystal" by CatThief. Choose, Install it. cliff1976 wrote: > Sorry for the intrusion. I found the fonts settings in Firefox (it > was right under my nose), so please ignore my previous message with > regard to the fonts. > > Still, I'd like to know if there was anyone else whose tabs weren't > working right under Firefox 2.0 (package from the Edgy repository). > > Thanks, > Cliff > *Happy With Firefox Once Again* > > On 10/29/06, cliff1976 wrote: > >> Hi Rashid and everyone, >> >> Thanks for the tip. The only thing in your instructions I had to >> modify was to do a "cp -r" instead of just "cp" to recursively copy >> the firefox directory into /opt/ (figured that out for myself). >> >> The good news: Firefox 2.0 is now working properly with regard to tab >> managment. I am pleased. >> >> The bad news: installing it this way makes it look *so*ugly* with >> regard to fonts. The Ubuntu package for Firefox 2.0 made the fonts >> used conform to the rest of KDE, but this binary installer version >> uses something terrible - character kerning is inconsistent and >> difficult to read. And the monospace fonts look even worse. >> >> Can anyone else confirm the behavior I was seeing earlier, where the >> Ubuntu package of Firefox 2.0 was not doing tabs properly? Or was it >> just me? I am going to have to make a tough decision here to see >> which is worse - lousy fonts or no tabs. I am looking, but so far >> have found no option in the Firefox menus to change the default fonts >> (Bitstream Vera or whatever was default in Edgy was nice, I'd like to >> go back to that if I can). >> >> Thanks for the help with the manual installation though - that at >> least is something different, if not better. >> >> Cliff >> >> >>> Hi Cliff >>> >>> Its actually really easy to install from the .tar.gz Its the binary installer, >>> no compilation necessary. >>> >>> Download the .tar.gz from www.getfirefox.com and save it to your Desktop. Then >>> open a console (K Menu > System > Konsole) then enter the following: >>> cd ~/Desktop >>> tar -xvzf firefox-2.0.tar.gz >>> sudo cp firefox /opt >>> cd /opt/firefox >>> chmod a+x firefox >>> ./firefox >>> >>> And thats it! >>> >>> Hope that helps :) Post back if you run into any problems >>> >>> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have successfully > used > > swat in the past but if I had to do something > special > > it excapes me. > > Some things to check: > > 1. Do you have a file '/etc/inetd.conf' and does it > contain a line something > like this: > swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/tcpd > /usr/sbin/swat > > 2. Is inetd running? > sudo /etc/init.d/inetd start > > 3. There is nothing in '/etc/hosts.deny' and > '/etc/hosts.allow' that would > prevent access from localhost. (on my system, these > files contain nothing but > comments) > > -- > Paul > > Paul, man you are good. Everything as yours except no inetd in /etc/init.d. Installed it and apt installed inetutils-inetd instead of the virtual package. When I started it and entered http://localhost:901/ in mozilla, swat was accessed. Bet cups works from localhost now also. BTW, I've had to add a slew of packages since installing Dapper that wasn't autoinstalled with the distro. Maybe I should have left the original Ubuntu install in place with kubuntu.desktop instead of a new install with kubuntu Dapper. Seems like the original Ubuntu install had more in it. Anyway thanks much for the guick solution to the swat issue. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From rashid786 at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 16:25:40 2006 From: rashid786 at gmail.com (Rashid ul Islam) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:25:40 +0000 Subject: k9copy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14cf5ea70610290825g393ecb98nf3fa6d625bb9fe31@mail.gmail.com> On 29/10/06, Chiphazard56 at aol.com wrote: > > > hi all > i recently installed k9copy & all its dependencies it works to read discs ok > but it will notcopy using k3b how do i do this as i only have one disc > reader ,writer > any help appreciated > regards > henjin > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Basically insert your disc and start k3b. In the screen that comes up, click "Copy CD" (if it comes up) or go Tools > Copy CD. It will read your CD, save it to a temporary location, and then prompt you to insert a blank disc. Once you have removed your original, and entered a blank one, it will then burn the old one onto the new one. Hope that helps -Rashid From ian at themagictree.co.uk Sun Oct 29 16:51:19 2006 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:51:19 +0000 Subject: Thunderbird (+OOo) locale problem(s) in edgy Message-ID: <4544DC07.8060700@themagictree.co.uk> Background: I have been struggling to get my edgy installs sorted with my GB locale. Despite consistently choosing United Kingdom locale (en-gb) settings, KDE set my locale to en-us. After setting my kde locale (for each individual user) to en-gb settings, I found that Open Office still didn't respect that, again setting itself to use US-style dates, currency etc. That was straightforward to correct (although time-consuming, having to manually alter each of 6 users OOo preferences on 3 seperate pc's). (mind you, the fonts are headache-inducing still!) Main issue: However I am stuck trying to get Thunderbird to use GB-style dates (ie 1st April 2004 = 1/4/04 rather than the US version 4/1/04), despite having thunderbird-locale-en-gb installed, and Thunderbird correctly spell-checking using English/United Kingdom. Does anyone know how to fix Thunderbird to get it to respect my locale settings with respect to date display OR to manually hack them? Whinge: ;) Although I've used Kubuntu from Hoary onwards, I have never spent so much time on launchpad before ;) ! -- Ian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maillist at madmaik.de Sun Oct 29 18:04:22 2006 From: maillist at madmaik.de (Maik 'MaDMaik' Danstedt) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:04:22 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu does not install In-Reply-To: References: <200610271739.05853.maillist@madmaik.de> Message-ID: <200610291904.22300.maillist@madmaik.de> Am Freitag, 27. Oktober 2006 19:23 schrieb Lord Sauron: > On 10/27/06, Maik 'MaDMaik' Danstedt wrote: > > I downloaded Kubuntu 6.06-i386 and -amd64 as well as 6.10-amd64 > > ISOs and tried to install from there. > > I tried to use the options apci=off as well as noapic, nolapic > > and turning off USB (according to the help). > > The install always hangs at the same point when the system put > > out the message that it detected my OHCI controllers. > > maybe your ohci controllers are weird. do you have a oddball mouse > or keyboard? I know that my saitek eclipse will occassionally give > a application grief because it identifies itself as a "saitek usb > gaming keyboard" and not a "universal usb keyboard" device or > whatever. Hm, I use a PS/2 Keyboard, a Logitech USB Optical Wheel Mouse, an LG USB DVD-RW, a HP DJ845C USB printer, a USB HDD (in general disconnected) and a Kobil USB Smartcard Reader. I will try to remove all unnecessary USB devices (leave out the mouse). Funny thing is, that I do not have problems booting other Linuxes. My Gentoo works fine, Knoppix boots fine (of course) and even Breezy worked fine. I wanted to upgrade to Dapper and the reboot did not work. A new clean installation of (K)Ubuntu will not work either (as described in my previous mail), all hanging at the same point. ... ok, seems that my USB2-HUB is causing the problem. I can boot kubuntu if I disconnect the HUB, let kubuntu boot and reconnect it. Here the output from usbview: "<<<<<" USB2.0 Hub Speed: 480Mb/s (high) Number of Ports: 4 USB Version: 2.00 Device Class: 09(hub ) Device Subclass: 00 Device Protocol: 01 Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 64 Number of Configurations: 1 Vendor Id: 05e3 Product Id: 0660 Revision Number: 5.07 Config Number: 1 Number of Interfaces: 1 Attributes: e0 MaxPower Needed: 100mA Interface Number: 0 Name: hub Alternate Number: 0 Class: 09(hub ) Sub Class: 0 Protocol: 0 Number of Endpoints: 1 Endpoint Address: 81 Direction: in Attribute: 3 Type: Int. Max Packet Size: 1 Interval: 256ms ">>>>>" Any idea how I can verify where excactely this problem is and what I can do so I do not need the manual workaround? rgds, Maik -- BOFH Excuse #166: /pub/lunch -- BOFH Excuse #319: Your computer hasn't been returning all the bits it gets from the Internet. From obsidion at ihug.co.nz Sun Oct 29 20:02:10 2006 From: obsidion at ihug.co.nz (Dion LeBlanc) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:02:10 +1300 Subject: Move to edgy In-Reply-To: <200610282154.46994.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200610291530.41737.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> <200610282154.46994.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610300902.10821.obsidion@ihug.co.nz> On Sunday 29 October 2006 15:54, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > David who unless he can figure out how to fix flash will be going back to > > debian or Fedora > > Why not just step back to dapper? I know Flash worked in Dapper, unless > you're talking about the flash 9 beta. Then I'd tell ya' your probably > going to have the same crash problems with firefox no matter what distro > you use. > I had considered that but it was last resort for me. Actually I have found the fix and so far fingers crossed no crashes. I have installed the ff2 tar.gz and flash beta 9, but I have added this to the start of the firefox script in /usr/bin export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 > However, I agree with you on the .hidden thing. That is one STUPID > "feature". I'd think they'd want to create a package quite in a hurry that > would do away with that, and redo the iso images and get rid of that as > well. I think it was a VERY unwelcome feature to say the least. I haven't > heard of anyone who likes it. Especially considering that in Firefox you > have that CRAPPY dialog box that forces you to browse to the /usr/bin > directory to find "xine" or "mplayer" (or whatever other app for whatever > other file you want to use for an example) for some files. The problem > being you can't because you can't see /usr. Actually I find that a good feature ie the dialog box, it means you choose the app you want for certain files. So to the person/s who decided on the .hidden idea, it isn't a good feature and unless you want a mass exodus of users to other distros get rid of it. From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 29 21:25:22 2006 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 13:25:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061029212522.68591.qmail@web82801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > --- Leonard Chatagnier > wrote: > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:15:45 +1300 > > > From: Rebel Lion > > > > > Rebel Lion wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:06:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > Leonard Chatagnier > wrote: > > > > > > > Just discovered that Seamonkey is the new > > Mozilla > > > > Suite. > > > > It's not available, AFAICT, in Kubuntu. > > > You can always install it yourself from the > > tar.gz > > > > > > Hey RebelLion, > > Thanks for the reply. I may try to compile it but > > need > > some info before I do as have done so only once > and > > a > > You don't have to install the source...there is a > tar.gz that is a binary set. > > You can install it in /opt /usr/local/ or even in > your > home directory. > > I do the latter sometimes if I anticipate backports > catching up with what I added. > > (ex firefox 1.5 on breezy) > > It helps keeping something in the home directroy for > a > while. > > Bryann Thanks Bryann, Appreciate the additional info. When I get around to adding Seamonkey, I'll use the $HOME dir as you suggest. Always wondered about when to use /opt /usr/local/ and see now that it is somewhat optional. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 29 23:33:42 2006 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:33:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mozilla Suite & Seamonkey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061029233342.18789.qmail@web82814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 05:29:21 -0700 (PDT) > Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > > > > Hey RebelLion, > > Thanks for the reply. I may try to compile it but > need > > > > You don't need to uninstall anything to try out > seamonkey. Just > download the .tar.gz. Then sudo mv seamonkey hit tab > to autocomplete > to /usr/local/ > cd to /usr/local/ > ls sea* to make sure it is there and you are in the > right place. > sudo tar zvxf seamonk here hit the tab key it will > autocomplete and it > will untar into its own directory. You can then call > it from there or > add an icon to your desktop or taskbar or where ever > you want. Or you > can put a symlink in say /usr/bin/ to it. > To do this cd /usr/bin/ then sudo ln -s > /usr/local/seamonkey/seamonkey > Wow, thanks a bunch for the detail. It will make adding Seamonkey a breaze as I haven't installed this way much. Really appreciate this detail. > Re the mplayer I don't have it, but do you have > the mozilla-plugins > installed and are they in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins > directory ? > Err?. Yes, I have mplayerplug-in-3.31 cvs compiled and installed. This contains the mplayer plugins which are copied into the /usr/lib/mozilla(and firefox)/plugins dir. I don't have mozilla-mplayer as it conflicts with mplayerplugin which both contain the plugins. Mozilla-mplayer was purged before installing mplayerplug-ins. Hope that answers your question as I'm a little confused on your exact meaning. I'm laboring under the impression that I should uninstall the mplayerplug-in-3.31 before I reinstall mozilla-mplayer from Dapper or any other package(Seamonkey) that contains the mplayerplug-ins as they would conflict. I haven't looked at Seamonkey tar.gz yet and assume that it would contain the mplayerplug-ins to allow the mozilla browser to play embedds. If Seamonkey doesn't contain the mplayerplug-ins then I would just keep mplayerplug-in-3.31 installed as its just about the latest version available. Aptitude search shows: lchata at ubuntu:~$ aptitude search mozilla-plugin p j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin - Java plugin for mozilla/firefox p mozilla-plugin-pcmanx - pcmanx plugin for Mozilla based browser p mozilla-plugin-vlc I may need the vlc but not the others. I have sun java installed. That should cover your question, if not, will be glad to provide more info. Well maybe one more thing, found a broken symlink for mplayerplug-in-gmp.xpt in ~/.mozilla/plugins and fixed it, rebooted and mozilla browser still just plays the adds but no selected videos. But I did get a potential problem fixed thanks to your question. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From gareth.lee at murdoch.edu.au Sun Oct 29 23:45:48 2006 From: gareth.lee at murdoch.edu.au (Gareth Lee) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:45:48 +0800 Subject: SMP support on Pentium D Message-ID: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> I'm trying to get dapper to run on a Pentium D (dual) processor CPU. The standard 2.6.15 kernel boots fine, apparently detects all my hardware, detects the second CPU but refuses to use it since it was compiled with NR_CPUS = 1. When I boot with the latest Knoppix release (2.6.17 kernel) it detects and uses both the CPUs so there is no fundamental incompatibility (... but I'd much rather run Kubuntu!) I have tried using two alternative kernels from the repository, the server kernel and the 686 SMP kernel. In each case the bootup starts fine, the ramdisk (apparently) loads and then the kernel hangs with no clear error at the point it first mounts my (SATA?) root partition. There is nothing exotic about my hardware setup as far as I can see (Pentium D 915 CPU on a recent Asus motherboard). As a third alternative I tried obtaining the kernel source files, compiling with the same configuration as the default kernel except SMP was enabled and NR_CPUS set to 2. This appears to build and install a valid kernel and a set of modules but does not generate a initrd file. Consequently the boot process hangs since it does not find the new modules in the standard initrd (and will not apparently boot without a ramdisk). I've found plenty of documentation explaining how initrd works but no clear instructions about how to build an initrd file and what I need to include in the initrd file for use with Ubuntu (other than the new /lib/modules directory of course). I would expect the step to be automated but there does not appear to be a make option for the kernel Makefile or any script to do the job. Since this is a problem that I would expect to have a relatively simple solution I wondered if one of you folks can tell me what I'm missing here! Thanks in advance for any suggestions. /Gareth Lee. -- School of Electrical, Energy and Process Engineering Murdoch University Dixon Road, Rockingham 6168 Western Australia Tel: +61-8-9360-7136 Fax: +61-8-9360-7104 Email: gareth.lee at murdoch.edu.au From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Oct 30 01:30:42 2006 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:30:42 -0400 Subject: SMP support on Pentium D In-Reply-To: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> References: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> Message-ID: <200610292030.42534.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 29 October 2006 6:45 pm, Gareth Lee wrote: > As a third alternative I tried obtaining the kernel source files, > compiling with the same configuration as the default kernel except > SMP was enabled and NR_CPUS set to 2. This appears to build > and install a valid kernel and a set of modules but does not generate > a initrd file. How did you build the kernel? I haven't booted mine yet, but I just built my first kernel after switching (to Dapper) from Debian (Sid). I don't see any surprises in /boot and I'm optimistic that its going to work fine when I get around to rebooting in a bit. After I patched the kernel and tweaked the config (for Linux audio, nothing of concern to you), I used: fakeroot make-kpkg --append_to_version -k8 --revision 1 --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image to build the debs. (-k8 because I built it for my arch) Did you perhaps build the kernel the old fashioned non-Debian way? make-kpkg is one of the best things about Debian, and its derivatives. That and module-assistant make managing your own kernels almost painless except for the compile time. In case you have no clue what I'm talking about, here are the directions I just refreshed my own memory with (you can ignore the bits about patching and whatnot, but the instructions how to set up and use make-kpkg are good, and don't forget to install fakeroot if it doesn't pull in automatically): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToVanillaKernelWithRealtimePreemption > not find the new modules in the standard initrd (and will not > apparently boot without a ramdisk). I gave up on this years ago, and just decided to go with the flow and use an initrd. It's very tedious to build a kernel that will boot without one, if not completely impossible. -- D. Michael McIntyre Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ See my new music stand unfolding at http://users.adelphia.net/~silvan/ From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Mon Oct 30 03:00:11 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:00:11 -0800 Subject: SMP support on Pentium D In-Reply-To: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> References: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> Message-ID: <200610291900.11774.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Sunday 29 October 2006 15:45, Gareth Lee wrote: > I'm trying to get dapper to run on a Pentium D (dual) processor CPU. > The standard 2.6.15 kernel boots fine, apparently detects all my > hardware, detects the second CPU but refuses to use it since it was > compiled with NR_CPUS = 1. When I boot with the latest Knoppix release > (2.6.17 kernel) it detects and uses both the CPUs so there is no > fundamental incompatibility (... but I'd much rather run Kubuntu!) I am running the smp kernel 2.6.15-27-386 which I got using uname -r so don't blame me if its not exactly that name, and my dual processor is working perfectly. It bummed me out that Ubuntu bunted on detecting my processor, too. But since installing the smp kernels, everything seems to run just fine, and I see the 2 processors detected during boot using dmesg. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From andy.hunter at rogers.com Mon Oct 30 03:48:27 2006 From: andy.hunter at rogers.com (Andrew Hunter) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:48:27 -0500 Subject: SMP support on Pentium D In-Reply-To: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> References: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> Message-ID: <200610292248.31540.andy.hunter@rogers.com> On Sunday 29 October 2006 18:45, Gareth Lee wrote: > I'm trying to get dapper to run on a Pentium D (dual) processor CPU. > The standard 2.6.15 kernel boots fine, apparently detects all my > hardware, detects the second CPU but refuses to use it since it was > compiled with NR_CPUS = 1. When I boot with the latest Knoppix release > (2.6.17 kernel) it detects and uses both the CPUs so there is no > fundamental incompatibility (... but I'd much rather run Kubuntu!) > > I have tried using two alternative kernels from the repository, > the server kernel and the 686 SMP kernel. In each case the bootup > starts fine, the ramdisk (apparently) loads and then the kernel hangs > with no clear error at the point it first mounts my (SATA?) root > partition. There is nothing exotic about my hardware setup as far > as I can see (Pentium D 915 CPU on a recent Asus motherboard). > > As a third alternative I tried obtaining the kernel source files, > compiling with the same configuration as the default kernel except > SMP was enabled and NR_CPUS set to 2. This appears to build > and install a valid kernel and a set of modules but does not generate > a initrd file. Consequently the boot process hangs since it does > not find the new modules in the standard initrd (and will not > apparently boot without a ramdisk). I've found plenty of documentation > explaining how initrd works but no clear instructions about how to > build an initrd file and what I need to include in the initrd file > for use with Ubuntu (other than the new /lib/modules directory of > course). I would expect the step to be automated but there does not > appear to be a make option for the kernel Makefile or any script to do > the job. > > Since this is a problem that I would expect to have a relatively > simple solution I wondered if one of you folks can tell me what > I'm missing here! > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > /Gareth Lee. > -- > School of Electrical, Energy and Process Engineering > Murdoch University > Dixon Road, Rockingham 6168 > Western Australia > Tel: +61-8-9360-7136 > Fax: +61-8-9360-7104 > Email: gareth.lee at murdoch.edu.au If you are will to upgrade to Edgy, the default kernel has SMP enabled by default. -- "First, God created idiots. But that was just for practise, then he made school boards." -Mark Twain -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(mind you, the fonts are > headache-inducing still!) > > Main issue: > However I am stuck trying to get Thunderbird to use GB-style dates (ie > 1st April 2004 = 1/4/04 rather than the US version 4/1/04), despite > having thunderbird-locale-en-gb installed, and Thunderbird correctly > spell-checking using English/United Kingdom. Does anyone know how to > fix Thunderbird to get it to respect my locale settings with respect > to date display OR to manually hack them? > > Whinge: ;) > Although I've used Kubuntu from Hoary onwards, I have never spent so > much time on launchpad before ;) ! Further info and manual fix: It appears that the locale was hard-wired into the installer to use en_US.UTF-8 . I tried "sudo apt-get install locales localeconf" This set up a variety of locales (" en_GB.UTF-8... done") and I selected selected en_GB.UTF-8 - with NO effect then: sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf again no effect, LANG was still set solidly to en_US.UTF-8 then: sudo locale-gen en-GB.UTF-8 (this now showed the locale as up-to-date) I then found a file /etc/default/locale and noticed that despite all the reconfiguring it was still set to en_US.UTF-8. Manually hacking this to en_GB.UTF-8 and a reboot sorted out my locale problems - LANG environment set properly, and Thunderbird using proper date formats. On a second PC all I needed to do was sudo locale-gen en-GB.UTF-8 and then kdesu kwrite /etc/default/locales << change locale manually I'm a bit stumped working out how to report this in launchpad though, having no idea which package was responsible for setting up the locale incorrectly in the first place, and why the tools that are supposed to change it didn't work. This problem is new to edgy for me, like a fair number of other issues. I wonder if the six weeks taken out of Edgy to add polish to Dapper has affected the quality control? -- Ian From philsf at ufrj.br Mon Oct 30 06:20:39 2006 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:20:39 -0300 Subject: encoding cp860 in konqueror - SOLVED In-Reply-To: <200610241137.27562.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <200610241137.27562.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <200610300320.40688.philsf@ufrj.br> Hello, so, to share the recently acquired knowledge: one actually doesn't NEED to convert filenames after copying from removable media: they can be converted at filesystem level *before* copying, using 'utf8' option from mount(8). I really don't expect this to work it all cases, but it seems to "just work" for the DVD and floppy I tried, both using this 860 encoding. Since *I* usually only interact with portuguese or english speaking people it seems safe enough for me to leave it in my /etc/fstab. Also, since I don't have to specify the medium's original encoding, this workaround should work for other languages as well. At last, for information sake, there are some packages for KDE that add an "Action" to menus under konqueror, like ToUTF-8. Note that the default is to convert from iso-8859-1. hope this is useful to someone. regards FF Em Tuesday 24 October 2006 11:37, Felipe Figueiredo escreveu: > Hello, > > the list of encodings for filenames in konqueror (or konsole, for that matter) > does not include cp860, which is important for brazillian users that > communicate with Windows users (everbody...?). Unfortunately this is the > encoding XP uses for its CD burning. > > How can I add this encoding to kubuntu's KDE, so that I see filenames (and use > them) correctly? I expect this not to be in konqueror's configuration, but > rather some centralised place (based on the fact that the encodings list > appears to be the same for every app that displays it). > > Please, anyone? > > regards > FF > From pfrancq at ulb.ac.be Mon Oct 30 10:28:36 2006 From: pfrancq at ulb.ac.be (Pascal Francq) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:28:36 +0100 Subject: Recovering directory Message-ID: <200610301128.39759.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> HI, After a wrong command, I delete a directory with 'rm -rf dir". Is there a tool to recover it? -- Prof. Pascal Francq Digital Information Chair Université libre de Bruxelles Department of Information and Communication Sciences Avenue F.D. Roosevelt, 50 CP 123 B-1050 Brussels BELGIUM Tel. +32-2-650 47 65 Fax +32-2-650 39 21 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you. -- Jose Pablo "Pupeno" Fernandez pablo.fernandez at rs.com.ar From dhcolesj at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 12:59:11 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:59:11 -0600 Subject: SMP support on Pentium D In-Reply-To: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> References: <45453D2C.3020805@murdoch.edu.au> Message-ID: <200610300659.11782.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Sunday 29 October 2006 5:45 pm, Gareth Lee wrote: > I'm trying to get dapper to run on a Pentium D (dual) processor CPU. > The standard 2.6.15 kernel boots fine, apparently detects all my > hardware, detects the second CPU but refuses to use it since it was > compiled with NR_CPUS = 1. When I boot with the latest Knoppix release > (2.6.17 kernel) it detects and uses both the CPUs so there is no > fundamental incompatibility (... but I'd much rather run Kubuntu!) > > I have tried using two alternative kernels from the repository, > the server kernel and the 686 SMP kernel. In each case the bootup > starts fine, the ramdisk (apparently) loads and then the kernel hangs > with no clear error at the point it first mounts my (SATA?) root > partition. There is nothing exotic about my hardware setup as far > as I can see (Pentium D 915 CPU on a recent Asus motherboard). > > As a third alternative I tried obtaining the kernel source files, > compiling with the same configuration as the default kernel except > SMP was enabled and NR_CPUS set to 2. This appears to build > and install a valid kernel and a set of modules but does not generate > a initrd file. Consequently the boot process hangs since it does > not find the new modules in the standard initrd (and will not > apparently boot without a ramdisk). I've found plenty of documentation > explaining how initrd works but no clear instructions about how to > build an initrd file and what I need to include in the initrd file > for use with Ubuntu (other than the new /lib/modules directory of > course). I would expect the step to be automated but there does not > appear to be a make option for the kernel Makefile or any script to do > the job. > > Since this is a problem that I would expect to have a relatively > simple solution I wondered if one of you folks can tell me what > I'm missing here! Yes, install the linux-686-smp metapackage for the SMP kernel. There is one in the list in synaptic by that very name. I ran that for some time on my Hyperthreaded processor and it worked rather well. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From daniel at rimspace.net Mon Oct 30 12:56:21 2006 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:56:21 +1100 Subject: Recovering directory References: <200610301128.39759.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> Message-ID: <878xiydksq.fsf@rimspace.net> Pascal Francq writes: > After a wrong command, I delete a directory with 'rm -rf dir". Is > there a tool to recover it? Not helpfully, no. Whatever command recovers files from your regular backups will work fine but if you had those you probably wouldn't be asking this, eh? Ext3 destroys the information required to find the content again. Most of the other file system options use storage structures that make undeletion difficult or impossible. On ext2 alone you might have a chance, and on a FAT partition it isn't actually very hard at all, as the same undelete tools as Windows work. However the short answer: no, there isn't, and if you didn't have a backup you are now short of luck. Sorry. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Mon Oct 30 20:44:41 2006 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:44:41 +1100 Subject: Edgy Difficulty (PowerPC Version) Message-ID: <20061031074441.15b551f6.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Hello there ... I've broken one of my own rules ... and kept on updating the release candidate of Kubuntu Edgy for my powerpc. It's an iMac ... and it was working well. Basically I had installed it and everything worked... giving me the confidence to use it as my desktop machine. Now the problem is that after the last update in early October (around the 8th) I can log in correctly ... and the machine starts up. However, after that NOTHING I type on the keyboard appears on the screen. I cannot enter passwords, etc ...for getting my mail. I cannot enter URL's for Konqueror, and I am just stuck with starting programs (from the applications menu). Please tell me this is simple to fix!! Any ideas? Richard (on the backup laptop) From richard.jenkins at internode.on.net Mon Oct 30 20:46:13 2006 From: richard.jenkins at internode.on.net (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:46:13 +1100 Subject: Edgy Difficulty (PowerPC Version) Message-ID: <20061031074613.75f8b302.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Hello there ... I've broken one of my own rules ... and kept on updating the release candidate of Kubuntu Edgy for my powerpc. It's an iMac ... and it was working well. Basically I had installed it and everything worked... giving me the confidence to use it as my desktop machine. Now the problem is that after the last update in early October (around the 8th) I can log in correctly ... and the machine starts up. However, after that NOTHING I type on the keyboard appears on the screen. I cannot enter passwords, etc ...for getting my mail. I cannot enter URL's for Konqueror, and I am just stuck with starting programs (from the applications menu). Please tell me this is simple to fix!! Any ideas? Richard (on the backup laptop) From dgvirtual at akl.lt Mon Oct 30 22:25:28 2006 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:25:28 +0200 Subject: i810 driver and tv-out: how do I get colour? Message-ID: <200610310025.28986.dgvirtual@akl.lt> Finally, after a great deal of trying I got TV-out working on laptop Asus A8F. It has an S-video connection with a transition to a Video connection on my TV. The only problem remains: I cannot get it display in colour, I only get black&white.... Could someone help me with this? my full xorg.conf is published here: http://dg.lapas.info/share/xorg.conf could someone review if I did something wrong with it? Here is my - fullly functional - xorg.conf file from my desktop computer, which has an ATI card. : http://dg.lapas.info/share/xorg.conf.fglrx I am publishing it for reference, since in both cases I use the same TV set, and it does work with the proprietary ATI driver. My TV standard is PAL B.... -- Donatas Glodenis http://dg.lapas.info From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Oct 30 23:26:10 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:26:10 +0200 Subject: Installing F-Spot in Kubuntu Message-ID: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> I installed the latest Kubuntu 6.10 today, and I need to reinstall F-Spot. I see that the F-spot.org site lists these dependancies: mono-gmcs libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil However, apt-get fails with: E: Couldn't find package libmono-sqlite2.0-cil E: Couldn't find package libmono-cairo2.0-cil and I found this: dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search libmono | grep sqlite libmono-sqlite1.0-cil - Mono Sqlite library dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search libmono | grep cairo libmono-cairo1.0-cil - Mono Cairo library Will this be enough to install F-Spot 0.2.2? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://gmail-com.com/ http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xhtml.html From rob.blomquist at verizon.net Tue Oct 31 02:10:06 2006 From: rob.blomquist at verizon.net (Rob Blomquist) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:10:06 -0800 Subject: Recovering directory In-Reply-To: <878xiydksq.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <200610301128.39759.pfrancq@ulb.ac.be> <878xiydksq.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200610301810.06148.rob.blomquist@verizon.net> On Monday 30 October 2006 04:56, Daniel Pittman wrote: > Pascal Francq writes: > > After a wrong command, I delete a directory with 'rm -rf dir". Is > > there a tool to recover it? > > Not helpfully, no. Whatever command recovers files from your regular > backups will work fine but if you had those you probably wouldn't be > asking this, eh? Which reminds me that I have been meaning to cover my tail with a few aliases in .bash_profile: alias cp='cp -i ' alias mv='mv -i ' alias rm='rm -i ' Which allows these programs to run with an "are you sure query" that you need to answer. In my humble opinion, rm -rf is a very scary, but necessary command, which needs to be on a leash. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA From mailinglist at endosquid.com Tue Oct 31 02:18:56 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:18:56 -0500 Subject: Edgy Difficulty (PowerPC Version) In-Reply-To: <20061031074441.15b551f6.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> References: <20061031074441.15b551f6.richard.jenkins@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <200610302118.57119.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Monday 30 October 2006 15:44, Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > Hello there ... > > I've broken one of my own rules ... and kept on updating the release > candidate of Kubuntu Edgy for my powerpc. It's an iMac ... and it was > working well. Basically I had installed it and everything worked... giving > me the confidence to use it as my desktop machine. > > Now the problem is that after the last update in early October (around the > 8th) I can log in correctly ... and the machine starts up. However, after > that NOTHING I type on the keyboard appears on the screen. I cannot enter > passwords, etc ...for getting my mail. I cannot enter URL's for Konqueror, > and I am just stuck with starting programs (from the applications menu). > Please tell me this is simple to fix!! > > Any ideas? > > Richard > (on the backup laptop) Well, change your init to something text-based and startx from the console...then you can see what the funk is up with your X. Perhaps your keyboard isn't covered by the config anymore? Perhaps posting your Keyboard Device section of your xorg.conf? Just a few ideas... From mailinglist at endosquid.com Tue Oct 31 02:20:19 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:20:19 -0500 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <20061028032253.93212.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061028032253.93212.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200610302120.19765.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Friday 27 October 2006 23:22, Bry Melvin wrote: > > Yep I can't get it either!! > > steve > > Does anyone know what has happened? > packages.freecontrib.org can't even be resolved by my browser now. Yep, and what I found with 5 seconds of google searching revealed: ## PLF fallback repository - edgy deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free deb-src http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Tue Oct 31 03:52:50 2006 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:52:50 +0100 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, ...) ? Message-ID: <4546C892.7080809@bluewin.ch> Can standard TrueType fonts such as Arial, Times New Roman and the like be downloaded and/or installed from anywhere for use in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS ? If so, where from and how? Any help will be thankfully appreciated jdh _________________ kubuntu 6.06 LTS on i586 w/ 512 MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 03:52:20 2006 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:52:20 -0600 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610302120.19765.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <20061028032253.93212.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610302120.19765.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <200610302152.21135.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Monday 30 October 2006 8:20 pm, Brendan wrote: > On Friday 27 October 2006 23:22, Bry Melvin wrote: > > > Yep I can't get it either!! > > > steve > > > > Does anyone know what has happened? > > packages.freecontrib.org can't even be resolved by my browser now. > > Yep, and what I found with 5 seconds of google searching revealed: > ## PLF fallback repository - edgy > deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free > deb-src http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free I'm not exactly sure how to take your message: At this point my very sarcastic nature takes it as a "Hey, dufus if you'd just searched Google you wouldn't have bothered the list" in which case I'd respond in a very sharp tone letting you know that this question was posted a full 2 days before the fallback was online, and some other sharp quips. However, I'm trying to suppress that because its not nice, nor accurate, and its very annoying to others who would refrain from helping me in the future. So, I'm gonna take it as "Hey, I just found out from searching Google that its now, this . . ." and respond in kind to your help: Thanks, I meant to post this as soon as I found out, but I also got a message from the maintainer that they have the real freecontrib up, but its moving. Quote, "It seems to be back online. But I have also started the migration to zarb.org, but it isn't finished yet, so http://packages.freecontrib.org will stay the main mirror for the moment." So, you beat me to posting it. So we'll both need to be on the look out for when it changes to zarb.org. Its amazing at how complicated communication can get! :-D As a Starbucks "Barista" says each day, "Have a sparkling day!" -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore From brymelvin at melvinart.com Tue Oct 31 04:20:07 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:20:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, ...) ? In-Reply-To: <4546C892.7080809@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "john d. herron" wrote: > Can standard TrueType fonts such as Arial, Times New > Roman and the like > be downloaded and/or installed from anywhere for use > in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS > ? If so, where from and how? > > Any help will be thankfully appreciated > jdh > _________________ > kubuntu 6.06 LTS on > i586 w/ 512 MB > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > install the package msttcorefonts when the package installs it will download and install the MS core fonts From brymelvin at melvinart.com Tue Oct 31 04:34:29 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:34:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610302152.21135.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061031043429.56539.qmail@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Howard Coles Jr." wrote: > On Monday 30 October 2006 8:20 pm, Brendan wrote: > > On Friday 27 October 2006 23:22, Bry Melvin wrote: > > > > Yep I can't get it either!! > > > > steve > > > > > > Does anyone know what has happened? > > > packages.freecontrib.org can't even be resolved > by my browser now. > > > > Yep, and what I found with 5 seconds of google > searching revealed: > > ## PLF fallback repository - edgy > > deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf > free non-free > > deb-src http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback > edgy-plf free non-free > > I'm not exactly sure how to take your message: > At this point my very sarcastic nature takes it as a Looking at the indentation marks....it appears that I am being quoted with this reponse... which isn't even close to what I wrote, which was an annecdotal comment on something I saw on the freecontrib.org blog If you guys are going to start flaming each other PLEASE keep my name out of it, Thank You Bryann From mailinglist at endosquid.com Tue Oct 31 04:57:24 2006 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:57:24 -0500 Subject: freecontrib.org In-Reply-To: <200610302152.21135.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <20061028032253.93212.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200610302120.19765.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <200610302152.21135.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610302357.25060.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Monday 30 October 2006 22:52, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > On Monday 30 October 2006 8:20 pm, Brendan wrote: > > On Friday 27 October 2006 23:22, Bry Melvin wrote: > > > > Yep I can't get it either!! > > > > steve > > > > > > Does anyone know what has happened? > > > packages.freecontrib.org can't even be resolved by my browser now. > > > > Yep, and what I found with 5 seconds of google searching revealed: > > ## PLF fallback repository - edgy > > deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free > > deb-src http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free > > I'm not exactly sure how to take your message: > At this point my very sarcastic nature takes it as a "Hey, dufus if you'd > just searched Google you wouldn't have bothered the list" in which case I'd > respond in a very sharp tone letting you know that this question was > posted a full 2 days before the fallback was online, and some other sharp > quips. > > However, I'm trying to suppress that because its not nice, nor accurate, > and its very annoying to others who would refrain from helping me in the > future. So, I'm gonna take it as "Hey, I just found out from searching > Google that its now, this . . ." and respond in kind to your help: > > Thanks, I meant to post this as soon as I found out, but I also got a > message from the maintainer that they have the real freecontrib up, but its > moving. Quote, "It seems to be back online. > But I have also started the migration to zarb.org, but it isn't finished > yet, so http://packages.freecontrib.org will stay the main mirror for the > moment." So, you beat me to posting it. > > So we'll both need to be on the look out for when it changes to zarb.org. > > Its amazing at how complicated communication can get! :-D > As a Starbucks "Barista" says each day, "Have a sparkling day!" I just meant that it was obviously on top of the list, so I would assume that the page was popular. My 5 seconds comment was more like "I didn't actually put much effort into this, so take it with a grain of salt". From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Tue Oct 31 05:26:22 2006 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:26:22 +0100 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, ...) ? In-Reply-To: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> Bry: Thanks for the advice, but... a search for 'msttcorefonts' under 'Show Package List' in Adept yielded nothing. What am I doing wrong? jdh Bry Melvin wrote: > install the package msttcorefonts when the package > installs it will download and install the MS core fonts > > > --- "john d. herron" > wrote: > > >> Can standard TrueType fonts such as Arial, Times New >> Roman and the like >> be downloaded and/or installed from anywhere for use >> in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS >> ? If so, where from and how? >> >> Any help will be thankfully appreciated >> jdh >> _________________ >> kubuntu 6.06 LTS on >> i586 w/ 512 MB >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hawkwind at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 05:29:36 2006 From: hawkwind at gmail.com (Cliff Wade) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:29:36 -0600 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, ...) ? In-Reply-To: <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> References: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: On 10/30/06, john d. herron wrote: > > > Bry: Thanks for the advice, but... > a search for 'msttcorefonts' under 'Show Package List' in Adept yielded > nothing. > What am I doing wrong? > jdh > You need to make sure you have the 'multiverse' repo enabled since that's the repo msttcorefonts is located in. 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Tez john d. herron wrote: > > Bry: Thanks for the advice, but... > a search for 'msttcorefonts' under 'Show Package List' in Adept > yielded nothing. > What am I doing wrong? > jdh > > > Bry Melvin wrote: >> install the package msttcorefonts when the package >> installs it will download and install the MS core fonts >> >> >> --- "john d. herron" >> wrote: >> >> >>> Can standard TrueType fonts such as Arial, Times New >>> Roman and the like >>> be downloaded and/or installed from anywhere for use >>> in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS >>> ? If so, where from and how? >>> >>> Any help will be thankfully appreciated >>> jdh >>> _________________ >>> kubuntu 6.06 LTS on >>> i586 w/ 512 MB >>> >>> >>> From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Tue Oct 31 06:05:25 2006 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:05:25 +0100 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, ...) ? In-Reply-To: <4546DF63.4040600@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> <4546DF63.4040600@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4546E7A5.7010908@bluewin.ch> Adept Manager tells me that the following repositories are enabled: dapper main restricted, dapper-updates main restricted, dapper universe, dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse, dapper-security main AND dapper-security universe. I assume when you say I should 'update the package list', you mean I ought to 'fetch updates'. That I have done. But still no joy. I realize I'm not the brightest person around. What am I missing? Tez wrote: > You have to enable the multiverse repository first, then update the > package list. > > Tez > > john d. herron wrote: > >> Bry: Thanks for the advice, but... >> a search for 'msttcorefonts' under 'Show Package List' in Adept >> yielded nothing. >> What am I doing wrong? >> jdh >> >> >> Bry Melvin wrote: >> >>> install the package msttcorefonts when the package >>> installs it will download and install the MS core fonts >>> >>> >>> --- "john d. herron" >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Can standard TrueType fonts such as Arial, Times New >>>> Roman and the like >>>> be downloaded and/or installed from anywhere for use >>>> in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS >>>> ? If so, where from and how? >>>> >>>> Any help will be thankfully appreciated >>>> jdh >>>> _________________ >>>> kubuntu 6.06 LTS on >>>> i586 w/ 512 MB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Oct 31 06:20:51 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:20:51 +0000 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, ...) ? In-Reply-To: <4546E7A5.7010908@bluewin.ch> References: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> <4546DF63.4040600@blueyonder.co.uk> <4546E7A5.7010908@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <4546EB43.8090405@blueyonder.co.uk> Let me just say, personally I hate the Adept interface, so I'm not surprised that you can get confused with it. So here's a step-by-step: Click on the "Adept" menu and choose "Manage Repositories" You should see a like like: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe (If it's grey then you need to right-click it and select "Enable") Then double-click on the section saying "universe", that will allow you to edit it, change it to say: "universe multiverse" You'll also want to change the line with: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted to "main restricted universe multiverse" When you have changed both lines, click on the "Apply" button, then the "Close" button. You'll see the main Adept screen now, just click "Fetch Updates" and then search for msttcorefonts. If you get stuck anywhere let me know and I'll give more help. Tez john d. herron wrote: > Adept Manager tells me that the following repositories are enabled: > dapper main restricted, dapper-updates main restricted, dapper universe, > dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse, dapper-security > main AND > dapper-security universe. > I assume when you say I should 'update the package list', you mean I > ought to 'fetch updates'. > That I have done. But still no joy. > I realize I'm not the brightest person around. What am I missing? > > > Tez wrote: >> You have to enable the multiverse repository first, then update the >> package list. >> >> Tez >> >> > From ian at themagictree.co.uk Tue Oct 31 06:29:45 2006 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:29:45 +0000 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (Arial, Times New Roman, ...) ? In-Reply-To: <4546E7A5.7010908@bluewin.ch> References: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> <4546DF63.4040600@blueyonder.co.uk> <4546E7A5.7010908@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <4546ED59.4070103@themagictree.co.uk> john d. herron wrote: > Adept Manager tells me that the following repositories are enabled: > dapper main restricted, dapper-updates main restricted, dapper universe, > dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse, dapper-security > main AND > dapper-security universe. > I assume when you say I should 'update the package list', you mean I > ought to 'fetch updates'. > That I have done. But still no joy. > I realize I'm not the brightest person around. What am I missing? > > In Adept, go to "View" > "Manage Repositories" Find the lines that read: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe (you may have "ch" rather than "gb" or another country code, this can be left unchanged). You may want to make the same changes to the dapper-security lines as well, although I don't know if "multiverse" actually receives any security updates. Double-click on "universe" and change it to "universe multiverse", and select "apply". Use "Fetch Updates" and then a search for "corefonts" should bring up the required package. hth -- Ian From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Oct 31 06:57:28 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:57:28 -0500 Subject: Installing F-Spot in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610310157.28187.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Monday 30 October 2006 6:26 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I installed the latest Kubuntu 6.10 today, and I need to reinstall > F-Spot. I see that the F-spot.org site lists these dependancies: > mono-gmcs > libmono-sqlite2.0-cil > libmono-cairo2.0-cil > > However, apt-get fails with: > E: Couldn't find package libmono-sqlite2.0-cil > E: Couldn't find package libmono-cairo2.0-cil > > and I found this: > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search libmono | grep sqlite > libmono-sqlite1.0-cil - Mono Sqlite library > dotancohen at ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search libmono | grep cairo > libmono-cairo1.0-cil - Mono Cairo library > > Will this be enough to install F-Spot 0.2.2? Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://gmail-com.com/ > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xhtml.html You should be fine, i think the dependencies for Kubuntu is slightly different the what the website states. From running apt-get, you will have quite a few other packages to install as well (unless of course you already have gnome bits installed): The following extra packages will be installed: binfmt-support cli-common libdbus-1-cil libgconf2.0-cil libglade2.0-cil libglib2.0-cil libgnome2.0-cil libgtk2.0-cil libgtkhtml3.8-15 libmono-cairo1.0-cil libmono-corlib1.0-cil libmono-data-tds1.0-cil libmono-security1.0-cil libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libmono-sqlite1.0-cil libmono-system-data1.0-cil libmono-system-web1.0-cil libmono-system1.0-cil libmono0 libmono1.0-cil mono-common mono-gac mono-jit mono-runtime -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Tue Oct 31 07:25:25 2006 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:25:25 +0100 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (now solved!) In-Reply-To: <4546EB43.8090405@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> <4546DF63.4040600@blueyonder.co.uk> <4546E7A5.7010908@bluewin.ch> <4546EB43.8090405@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4546FA65.7000603@bluewin.ch> Thanks, Tez, for your very clear and concise explanation, which worked beautifully - and thanks to Ian Rose, as well. Since Adept Help does not work on my box, I'm going to file this one away for future reference. As a long-time Windows user, small-business owner and VB programmer who has for the past eighteen or so months been working (first with SuSE 9.2 and now with Kubuntu 6.06, which I much prefer) at migrating everything to Linux, I'm still very much a greenhorn, used to working with GUI apps and tools and not yet much at home with a console or CLI. So if there's an easier, or better, way to look for and find/install software, I'd love to learn more about it. john Tez wrote: > Let me just say, personally I hate the Adept interface, so I'm not > surprised that you can get confused with it. > So here's a step-by-step: > > Click on the "Adept" menu and choose "Manage Repositories" > You should see a like like: > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe > (If it's grey then you need to right-click it and select "Enable") > Then double-click on the section saying "universe", that will allow you > to edit it, change it to say: > "universe multiverse" > You'll also want to change the line with: > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted > to "main restricted universe multiverse" > > When you have changed both lines, click on the "Apply" button, then the > "Close" button. You'll see the main Adept screen now, just click "Fetch > Updates" and then search for msttcorefonts. > If you get stuck anywhere let me know and I'll give more help. > > Tez > > john d. herron wrote: > >> Adept Manager tells me that the following repositories are enabled: >> dapper main restricted, dapper-updates main restricted, dapper universe, >> dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse, dapper-security >> main AND >> dapper-security universe. >> I assume when you say I should 'update the package list', you mean I >> ought to 'fetch updates'. >> That I have done. But still no joy. >> I realize I'm not the brightest person around. What am I missing? >> >> >> Tez wrote: >> >>> You have to enable the multiverse repository first, then update the >>> package list. >>> >>> Tez >>> >>> >>> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Michael McIntyre Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ See my new music stand unfolding at http://users.adelphia.net/~silvan/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 09:58:27 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:58:27 +0200 Subject: Installing F-Spot in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610310157.28187.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> <200610310157.28187.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610310158ydfcf62ah6afb320021e6490f@mail.gmail.com> On 31/10/06, claydoh wrote: > You should be fine, i think the dependencies for Kubuntu is slightly different > the what the website states. > > From running apt-get, you will have quite a few other packages to install as > well (unless of course you already have gnome bits installed): > > The following extra packages will be installed: > binfmt-support cli-common libdbus-1-cil libgconf2.0-cil libglade2.0-cil > libglib2.0-cil libgnome2.0-cil libgtk2.0-cil libgtkhtml3.8-15 > libmono-cairo1.0-cil libmono-corlib1.0-cil libmono-data-tds1.0-cil > libmono-security1.0-cil libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil libmono-sqlite1.0-cil > libmono-system-data1.0-cil libmono-system-web1.0-cil libmono-system1.0-cil > libmono0 libmono1.0-cil mono-common mono-gac mono-jit mono-runtime > Thanks, Clay. Turns out that libmono-*1.0-cil is enough to build F-Spot 0.2.1, but not enough for the latest 0.2.2. And I need a feature of 0.2.2 (XMP import) so I'll have to go looking for those packages. Thanks. http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xmp.html Dotan Cohen From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Oct 31 11:16:25 2006 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:16:25 +0000 Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (now solved!) In-Reply-To: <4546FA65.7000603@bluewin.ch> References: <20061031042007.93783.qmail@web33505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4546DE7E.7000903@bluewin.ch> <4546DF63.4040600@blueyonder.co.uk> <4546E7A5.7010908@bluewin.ch> <4546EB43.8090405@blueyonder.co.uk> <4546FA65.7000603@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <45473089.4080304@blueyonder.co.uk> john d. herron wrote: > Thanks, Tez, for your very clear and concise explanation, which worked > beautifully - and thanks to Ian Rose, as well. > Since Adept Help does not work on my box, I'm going to file this one > away for future reference. > As a long-time Windows user, small-business owner and VB programmer > who has for the past eighteen or so months been working (first with > SuSE 9.2 and now with Kubuntu 6.06, which I much prefer) at migrating > everything to Linux, I'm still very much a greenhorn, used to working > with GUI apps and tools and not yet much at home with a console or CLI. > So if there's an easier, or better, way to look for and find/install > software, I'd love to learn more about it. > john > (Long reply, but worth a read) In my experience working with the CLI is easier then working with some GUIs (especially Adept). The good things about Linux though is choice, I don't like Adept, so I don't use it (I use Synaptic as the GUI). But if you just want to do a quick search, of you know the name of the package you want to install, the CLI is best. apt-cache apt-cache is used to search the package cache, i.e. searching for packages, getting the description of a package and some other things too. E.g. The command apt-cache search arial shows the output: roxen-fonts-iso8859-2 - Extra fonts for roxen msttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts >From there you get the package name and a short description. If you want a more detailed description you'll run: apt-cache show msttcorefonts the output shows: Package: msttcorefonts Priority: optional Section: multiverse/x11 Installed-Size: 164 Maintainer: Tollef Fog Heen Architecture: all Version: 1.2ubuntu3 Depends: wget (>= 1.9.1-4), cabextract (>= 0.1-2), xutils (>= 4.0.2), debconf (>= 1.2.0), defoma, debianutils (>= 1.7) Recommends: x-ttcidfont-conf Filename: pool/multiverse/m/msttcorefonts/msttcorefonts_1.2ubuntu3_all.deb Size: 22540 MD5sum: d858e7d7cd245f1107009d418671b478 Description: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts This package allows for easy installation of the Microsoft True Type Core Fonts for the Web including: [etc...] Then to install the package, rather than opening Adept (or any other GUI) and waiting for it to load, you just type: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts type in your password, and apt-get will download the package, with it's dependences if not already installed and will then install the package for you. You can find out more about the commands (or any command) by looking at the "man pages", you get to them by typing "man [command]". So you can type "man apt-cache" and "man apt-get" to find out about apt-cache and apt-get respectively. Unlike with windows, anything you can do with a GUI, you can do from the console. From editing text files to playing music files (or streams) or videos (as long as you have an X server running). It's well worth you diving in and playing with the CLI, if you're worried about possibly damaging your system from the powerful CLI, don't be. As long as you don't add "sudo" before a command, the worst it can do is delete your users files, and to make sure you don't even do that, just create a new user to work on the CLI with until you're more confident, the user won't be able to use sudo at all unless you set that up yourself. So have a poke around the CLI and get more comfortable with it, because that's where the power of Linux is. Tez From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Oct 31 15:16:31 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:16:31 -0500 Subject: Installing F-Spot in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <880dece00610310158ydfcf62ah6afb320021e6490f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> <200610310157.28187.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00610310158ydfcf62ah6afb320021e6490f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610311016.31419.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday 31 October 2006 4:58 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thanks, Clay. Turns out that libmono-*1.0-cil is enough to build > F-Spot 0.2.1, but not enough for the latest 0.2.2. And I need a > feature of 0.2.2 (XMP import) so I'll have to go looking for those > packages. Thanks. > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xmp.html > > Dotan Cohen Interestingly, libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil are now available in universe (It was not available for me either yesterday) so installing those, plus mono-gmcs as per the directions does enable a successful build :) -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From karlok at fastmail.fm Tue Oct 31 15:19:05 2006 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:19:05 -0800 Subject: cryptsetup failed In-Reply-To: <51097.200.123.183.89.1162208717.squirrel@200.123.183.89> References: <51097.200.123.183.89.1162208717.squirrel@200.123.183.89> Message-ID: <45476969.3060703@fastmail.fm> Jose Pablo Pupeno Fernandez wrote: > Hello, > I've tried to create an encrypted partition but I've got an error: > > # cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hda3 > Command failed: Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.07 (2006-05-11)(compat) and > kernel driver > > > What am I doing wrong ? > > Thank you. > That's the message I get when I try to run cryptsetup as non-root. Karl From youssefmankari at hotmail.com Tue Oct 31 15:26:42 2006 From: youssefmankari at hotmail.com (you man) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:26:42 -0500 Subject: This is a test Message-ID: this is a test youssef _________________________________________________________________ Experience Live Search from your PC or mobile device today. http://www.live.com/?mkt=en-ca From golfbuf at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 15:54:15 2006 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:54:15 -0500 Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad Message-ID: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> I don't like the fonts in edgy, compared to dapper. They are too fuzzy. In all applications, and all fonts, even the ttf I installed from my M$ partition. It's a 10 on the yuck factor! It's particularly objectionable in konsole, with dejavu sans mono at 10 px. It's very difficult to read. I'm still downloading and installing, so can't try anything in gnome yet. I have an LCD with the nvidia-glx driver. Everything is cool in dapper, so I know it's an edgy problem. This is enough of a problem to make me stay with dapper. I hope it can be fixed, but so far, I don't see any postings here or in the forums. Anyone else having this problem, or can help? TIA From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 15:54:28 2006 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Lord Sauron) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:54:28 -0800 Subject: This is a test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 10/31/06, you man wrote: > this is a test I guess it worked. mind telling what you were testing (it's not my patience, is it?) -- ========== GCv3.12 ========== GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+>++++ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y ========= END GCv3.12 ======== From angusprune at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 16:02:26 2006 From: angusprune at gmail.com (Angus Prune) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:02:26 +0000 Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad In-Reply-To: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> References: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18cdd8230610310802m460dd002t7b595749619f90ed@mail.gmail.com> Could this be down to your sub-pixel anti-aliasing settings? I've not noticed the fonts looking particularly bad in Edgy. James On 31/10/06, golfer wrote: > I don't like the fonts in edgy, compared to dapper. They are too > fuzzy. In all applications, and all fonts, even the ttf I installed > from my M$ partition. It's a 10 on the yuck factor! > > It's particularly objectionable in konsole, with dejavu sans mono at > 10 px. It's very difficult to read. I'm still downloading and > installing, so can't try anything in gnome yet. > > I have an LCD with the nvidia-glx driver. > > Everything is cool in dapper, so I know it's an edgy problem. > > This is enough of a problem to make me stay with dapper. I hope it > can be fixed, but so far, I don't see any postings here or in the > forums. > > Anyone else having this problem, or can help? From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 16:25:41 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:25:41 +0200 Subject: Installing F-Spot in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610311016.31419.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> <200610310157.28187.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00610310158ydfcf62ah6afb320021e6490f@mail.gmail.com> <200610311016.31419.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610310825m1414d7c3oe5db706728de4f66@mail.gmail.com> On 31/10/06, claydoh wrote: > On Tuesday 31 October 2006 4:58 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > Thanks, Clay. Turns out that libmono-*1.0-cil is enough to build > > F-Spot 0.2.1, but not enough for the latest 0.2.2. And I need a > > feature of 0.2.2 (XMP import) so I'll have to go looking for those > > packages. Thanks. > > > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xmp.html > > > > Dotan Cohen > > Interestingly, libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil are now available in > universe (It was not available for me either yesterday) so installing those, > plus mono-gmcs as per the directions does enable a successful build :) I've gotten libmono-cairo2.0-cil and mono-gmcs installed by adding Universe, but libmono-sqlite2.0-cil seems to be out of my reach. I'd rather not install it from source as I prefer to let apt handle my packages to avoid conflicts. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html http://song-lirics.com/ From vayu at sklinks.com Tue Oct 31 17:03:23 2006 From: vayu at sklinks.com (Vayu) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:03:23 -0800 Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad In-Reply-To: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> References: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <454781DB.6000104@sklinks.com> I'd be interested in seeing a screenshot. I just upgraded Dapper with KDE 3.5.5 and after that all Gnome applications and dialogs had horrible fonts. It was cured by going to the KDE settings/appearance &themes/fonts, unchecking the antialiasing checkbox, applying the change, rechecking the antialiasing checkbox, applying the change and then restarting X. Another thing I can think of is post your .fonts.conf file, there are several things you can try there. It may not be set up as well as you had on Dapper. golfer wrote: > I don't like the fonts in edgy, compared to dapper. They are too > fuzzy. In all applications, and all fonts, even the ttf I installed > from my M$ partition. It's a 10 on the yuck factor! > > It's particularly objectionable in konsole, with dejavu sans mono at > 10 px. It's very difficult to read. I'm still downloading and > installing, so can't try anything in gnome yet. > > I have an LCD with the nvidia-glx driver. > > Everything is cool in dapper, so I know it's an edgy problem. > > This is enough of a problem to make me stay with dapper. I hope it > can be fixed, but so far, I don't see any postings here or in the > forums. > > Anyone else having this problem, or can help? > > TIA > > From vayu at sklinks.com Tue Oct 31 17:04:44 2006 From: vayu at sklinks.com (Vayu) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:04:44 -0800 Subject: This is a test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4547822C.3070602@sklinks.com> Lord Sauron wrote: > On 10/31/06, you man wrote: > >> this is a test >> > I guess it worked. > > mind telling what you were testing (it's not my patience, is it?) > Apparently so, did you pass? :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brymelvin at melvinart.com Tue Oct 31 17:31:33 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:31:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: How/Where to get standard TrueType fonts (now solved!) In-Reply-To: <4546FA65.7000603@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <20061031173133.71034.qmail@web33513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "john d. herron" wrote: > Thanks, Tez, for your very clear and concise > explanation, which worked > beautifully - and thanks to Ian Rose, as well. > Since Adept Help does not work on my box, I'm going SNIP > So if there's an easier, or better, way to look for > and find/install > software, I'd love to learn more about it. > john > > Tez wrote: > > Let me just say, personally I hate the Adept > interface, so I'm not > > surprised that you can get confused with it. > > So here's a step-by-step: SNIP Sorry I didn't give you enough info at first...I wrote that late and my eyes were closing. Glad the others got you fixed up. I have never liked Adept either, I use Synaptic as a GUI Onterface with the "smart updates" toggled. Been on Ubuntu/ Kubuntu for asince 5.04 using that with no problems as of yet. Prior to Ubuntu I used SuSE with Kpackage manager, which actually trashed my installation resulting in myfirst Ubuntu install. So I haven't even tried that in Kubuntu. On my first try of Adept I found it lacking, so went back to synaptic. (my Kubuntu installs were Ubuntu+Kubuntu Desktop). And I've since kept with Synaptic despite it's Gnome heritage. Bryann From brymelvin at melvinart.com Tue Oct 31 17:47:08 2006 From: brymelvin at melvinart.com (Bry Melvin) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:47:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad In-Reply-To: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061031174708.43938.qmail@web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- golfer wrote: > I don't like the fonts in edgy, compared to dapper. > They are too > fuzzy. In all applications, and all fonts, even the > ttf I installed > from my M$ partition. It's a 10 on the yuck factor! > > It's particularly objectionable in konsole, with > dejavu sans mono at > 10 px. It's very difficult to read. I'm still > downloading and > installing, so can't try anything in gnome yet. > > I have an LCD with the nvidia-glx driver. > > Everything is cool in dapper, so I know it's an edgy > problem. > > This is enough of a problem to make me stay with > dapper. I hope it > can be fixed, but so far, I don't see any postings > here or in the > forums. > > Anyone else having this problem, or can help? > > TIA > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Do you have subpixel smoothing selected in the font preference? It may have not defaulted to that on install, I'd give the menu selections for that but I'm no where near a Kubuntu machine, Bryann From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Tue Oct 31 17:54:48 2006 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:54:48 -0400 Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad In-Reply-To: <454781DB.6000104@sklinks.com> References: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> <454781DB.6000104@sklinks.com> Message-ID: <200610311254.48122.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Tuesday 31 October 2006 12:03 pm, Vayu wrote: > I just upgraded Dapper with KDE 3.5.5 and after that all Gnome > applications and dialogs had horrible fonts. It was cured by going to > the KDE settings/appearance &themes/fonts, unchecking the antialiasing > checkbox, applying the change, rechecking the antialiasing checkbox, > applying the change and then restarting X. This sounds like it might be spot on. Debian Sid went through something like this a bit back, with new versions of libsomething. All kinds of font ugliness was corrected by flipping the antialiasing setting and then logging back in. This could be related to the same libsomething change. -- D. Michael McIntyre Author of Rosegarden Companion http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ See my new music stand unfolding at http://users.adelphia.net/~silvan/ From T.Six at gmx.de Tue Oct 31 18:56:35 2006 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:56:35 +0100 Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad In-Reply-To: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> References: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: golfer wrote the following on 31.10.2006 16:54: > I don't like the fonts in edgy, compared to dapper. They are too > fuzzy. In all applications, and all fonts, even the ttf I installed > from my M$ partition. It's a 10 on the yuck factor! > > It's particularly objectionable in konsole, with dejavu sans mono at > 10 px. It's very difficult to read. I'm still downloading and > installing, so can't try anything in gnome yet. > > I have an LCD with the nvidia-glx driver. > > Everything is cool in dapper, so I know it's an edgy problem. > > This is enough of a problem to make me stay with dapper. I hope it > can be fixed, but so far, I don't see any postings here or in the > forums. > > Anyone else having this problem, or can help? > > TIA https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/63403 bye Thilo From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Oct 31 18:58:54 2006 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:58:54 -0500 Subject: Installing F-Spot in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <880dece00610310825m1414d7c3oe5db706728de4f66@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> <200610311016.31419.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00610310825m1414d7c3oe5db706728de4f66@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200610311358.54344.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday 31 October 2006 11:25 am, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Interestingly, libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-cairo2.0-cil are now > > available in universe (It was not available for me either yesterday) so > > installing those, plus mono-gmcs as per the directions does enable a > > successful build :) > > I've gotten libmono-cairo2.0-cil and mono-gmcs installed by adding > Universe, but libmono-sqlite2.0-cil seems to be out of my reach. I'd > rather not install it from source as I prefer to let apt handle my > packages to avoid conflicts. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html > http://song-lirics.com/ I wonder if it is still propogating out to the various servers, as I just installed that package via apt this morning, and it was not found last evening when I tried. Here's a link to the official package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libmono-sqlite2.0-cil if you wanrto install it with dpkg. The package was not found on the packages.ubuntu.com site last evening either for me. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From golfbuf at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 19:32:47 2006 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:32:47 -0500 Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad In-Reply-To: References: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <835a7820610311132o435a2c02k6c375eb19b5f0441@mail.gmail.com> On 10/31/06, Thilo Six wrote: > golfer wrote the following on 31.10.2006 16:54: > > can be fixed, but so far, I don't see any postings here or in the > > forums. > > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/63403 > > bye Thilo > thanks for the bug pointer .. I'll try the stuff listed there. This reminds me of the bug in searching launchpad .. I had hoped it would have been fixed by now, but apparently not, since this bug did not show up when I searched. regards, From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Oct 31 20:43:22 2006 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 22:43:22 +0200 Subject: Installing F-Spot in Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200610311358.54344.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <880dece00610301526tcc3a708p230900f42062f1e3@mail.gmail.com> <200610311016.31419.claydoh@claydoh.com> <880dece00610310825m1414d7c3oe5db706728de4f66@mail.gmail.com> <200610311358.54344.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <880dece00610311243h77e45006t557e93c4ece14ad2@mail.gmail.com> On 31/10/06, claydoh wrote: > I wonder if it is still propogating out to the various servers, as I just > installed that package via apt this morning, and it was not found last > evening when I tried. > > Here's a link to the official package: > http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libmono-sqlite2.0-cil > if you wanrto install it with dpkg. > > The package was not found on the packages.ubuntu.com site last evening either > for me. Thanks, I had already found it there, and installed it. I also had to install libxml-parser-perl and mono-devel, but now I'm stuck on this one: checking for mono.pc... configure: error: missing the mono.pc file, usually found in the mono-devel package dotancohen at ubuntu:~/Desktop/f-spot-0.2.2$ sudo apt-cache search mono.pc That's after I installed mono-devel. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/ http://what-is-what.com/what_is/love.html From cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu Tue Oct 31 21:47:03 2006 From: cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu (Christopher J. Bottaro) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:47:03 -0600 Subject: packages kept back, adept notifier icon won't go away Message-ID: Hello, The adept notifier icon won't get out of my system tray. It says there are 31 updated packages. If I run 'sudo apt-get upgrade', it gives me the following output: The following packages have been kept back: < ... bunch of packages ... > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded. What does that mean? Does it have anything to do with the fact that I upgraded to Edgy from Dapper via apt-get recently? Thanks for the help, -- Christopher From manuel at mclure.org Tue Oct 31 22:11:54 2006 From: manuel at mclure.org (Manuel McLure) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:11:54 -0800 Subject: packages kept back, adept notifier icon won't go away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4547CA2A.4070501@mclure.org> Christopher J. Bottaro wrote: > Hello, > > The adept notifier icon won't get out of my system tray. It says there are > 31 updated packages. > > If I run 'sudo apt-get upgrade', it gives me the following output: > > The following packages have been kept back: > < ... bunch of packages ... > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded. > > What does that mean? Does it have anything to do with the fact that I > upgraded to Edgy from Dapper via apt-get recently? You need to upgrade those manually. Bring up adept, and uncheck the "not installed" and "installed" checkboxes, leaving only the "upgradeable" checkbox checked. Then you can select these and tell adept to upgrade them. That's how I solved this issue. From cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu Tue Oct 31 22:53:35 2006 From: cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu (Christopher J. Bottaro) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:53:35 -0600 Subject: packages kept back, adept notifier icon won't go away References: <4547CA2A.4070501@mclure.org> Message-ID: Manuel McLure wrote: > Christopher J. Bottaro wrote: >> Hello, >> >> The adept notifier icon won't get out of my system tray. It says there >> are 31 updated packages. >> >> If I run 'sudo apt-get upgrade', it gives me the following output: >> >> The following packages have been kept back: >> < ... bunch of packages ... > >> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 31 not upgraded. >> >> What does that mean? Does it have anything to do with the fact that I >> upgraded to Edgy from Dapper via apt-get recently? > > You need to upgrade those manually. Bring up adept, and uncheck the "not > installed" and "installed" checkboxes, leaving only the "upgradeable" > checkbox checked. Then you can select these and tell adept to upgrade > them. That's how I solved this issue. Hmm, I did that but before I hit apply changes, I choose to preview the changes. The 31 packages in question are mostly python* packages. In the preview changes view, it wants to remove all the analogous python2.4* packages. Is that correct? Seems like python2.4* is more specific than python*, so those should be the ones to keep... ? Thanks again, -- C From cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu Tue Oct 31 22:55:50 2006 From: cjbottaro at alumni.cs.utexas.edu (Christopher J. Bottaro) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:55:50 -0600 Subject: edgy fuzzy fonts bad References: <835a7820610310754r47747ce6v556aebb8bc54b067@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: golfer wrote: > I don't like the fonts in edgy, compared to dapper. They are too > fuzzy. In all applications, and all fonts, even the ttf I installed > from my M$ partition. It's a 10 on the yuck factor! > > It's particularly objectionable in konsole, with dejavu sans mono at > 10 px. It's very difficult to read. I'm still downloading and > installing, so can't try anything in gnome yet. > > I have an LCD with the nvidia-glx driver. > > Everything is cool in dapper, so I know it's an edgy problem. > > This is enough of a problem to make me stay with dapper. I hope it > can be fixed, but so far, I don't see any postings here or in the > forums. > > Anyone else having this problem, or can help? > > TIA +1. I figured I just need to get used to it. I changed some of my monospace fonts to "monospace" or "courier 10 pitch" and increased the size a few points. That seems to help, but it kinda sucks having "big" fonts when everything else is high resolution. -- C From jh_sandberg at yahoo.com Tue Oct 31 23:05:29 2006 From: jh_sandberg at yahoo.com (Juha Sandberg) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:05:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: DD 6.06.1LTS or Edgy Message-ID: <20061031230529.61139.qmail@web58201.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello! I'm new to list, and from Finland. I dont know, is this kind of question suitable for this list, but I ask anyway. There is Dapper Drake 6.06.1 LTS, which I have, and there is Edgy Edge. With DD 6.06.1 comes three years long term support (LTS), but how about Edgy?. Is there somekind of support for years? I'm trying search answer for this, but no results. Do I drop behind, if I stay with Dapper?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: