From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Thu Mar 1 02:38:31 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:38:31 -0500 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Wednesday 28 February 2007 4:14 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I'm familiar with that, too, of course: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysergic_acid_diethylamide LOL! No, I'm afraid not. I'm pretty pure and virginal when it comes to illicit substances, and I've had to pee in a cup for 15 years in order to afford to support my computer habit. :) -- D. Michael McIntyre From veritastic at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 03:38:08 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris Rohde) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:38:08 -0500 Subject: Synching Kontact? Message-ID: <200702282238.08290.veritastic@gmail.com> Hey all, is it possible to sync the calendar portion of Kontact with an online source, say google calendar? Thanks Chris http://wiki.ubunut.com/FloridaTeam http://taxnation.wordpress.com From jonzep at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 04:32:59 2007 From: jonzep at gmail.com (Jonathan Zeppettini) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:32:59 -0500 Subject: Application link problem? In-Reply-To: <45E5ECC0.5030604@mho.com> References: <45E5ECC0.5030604@mho.com> Message-ID: Can't you just add a custom command for dealing with this file type in general (.jar) e.g. java -jar That way when you double click on [appname].jar it automatically prepends the above command... I'm in Ubuntu right now so I can't recall how this is achieved in KDE but in GNOME it would be done through the "Open With" tab of the properties dialog. On 2/28/07, Mike wrote: > I have a java jar file. I can execute it using > > "java -jar myapp.jar" from a terminal window > > or I can make a .sh file containing the above and execute it from a > terminal window. > > If I create a desktop link to either the java statement (with complete > path myapp.jar) or to the .sh file, it won't execute. The app appears > in the bottom task bar, the icon jumps around and then goes away. > > What am I doing wrong? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- JZ From mdhirsch at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 05:43:26 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:43:26 -0700 Subject: sound issues In-Reply-To: <200702231843.13659.einfall@mac.com> References: <200702231843.13659.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0702282143u2171022j71bbaead35e0df63@mail.gmail.com> On 2/23/07, eric wrote: > Hi all- > I re-installed Kubuntu 6.10 today after running Ubuntu with KDE installed for > the last month.. Seems I now don't have any audio. My card is recognized, but > I can't hear anything - even after tinkering with KMix. I find that I have to downgrade my kernel to 2.6.15-27 in order to get any sound. With new kernels neither of my sound cards put out any noise, though they are both recognized and the modules load without error. I can't figure it out at all. Michael From mdy at canonical.com Thu Mar 1 05:57:03 2007 From: mdy at canonical.com (Malcolm Yates) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 05:57:03 +0000 Subject: sound issues In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0702282143u2171022j71bbaead35e0df63@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702231843.13659.einfall@mac.com> <9c2aabaf0702282143u2171022j71bbaead35e0df63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703010557.03329.mdy@canonical.com> On Thursday 01 March 2007 05:43:26 Michael Hirsch wrote: > On 2/23/07, eric wrote: > > Hi all- > > I re-installed Kubuntu 6.10 today after running Ubuntu with KDE installed > > for the last month.. Seems I now don't have any audio. My card is > > recognized, but I can't hear anything - even after tinkering with KMix. > > I find that I have to downgrade my kernel to 2.6.15-27 in order to get > any sound. With new kernels neither of my sound cards put out any > noise, though they are both recognized and the modules load without > error. I can't figure it out at all. > Curiously, when I upgraded from 6.10 to the current Fiesty Beta, my sound went too .... with no obvious problem or solution. > Michael -- ***** Please note the new mobile and home office numbers ***** Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com ------------------- Grusse/Cordialement/Saluti/Saludos/Med Venlig/Helsning/Saygilarimla Mobile : +44 (0) 7769 703709 Home Office : +44 (0) 1483 481712 Office : +44 (0) 20 7052 9842 ext 22 Fax : +44 (0) 20 7052 9849 Mail : Axiscross House, 25/27 Mossop Street, London SW3 2LY UK ------------------- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 1 06:48:29 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:48:29 -0500 Subject: Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <1172695739.4504.1177054419@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1172659716.31251.1176947275@webmail.messagingengine.com> <200702280742.51830.manchicken@notsosoft.net> <1172695739.4504.1177054419@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <45E6773D.8080802@gatech.edu> Paul Dufresne wrote: > Well, I just have an old ISA PNP sound card on the motherboard. > As I describe in unrelated bug #51965. > > If my view of the problem is right, EVERYBODY who goes > in System Settings/Sound System, then clicks on 'Defaults' > in the bottom, then unmark 'Auto-suspend if idle after:', then > click Apply, will begin to have amarok not working, and kaffeine > begin not playing sound. Why would you do that? You're complaining about the default behavior, but here you admit that the default behavior is not the problem. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 1 06:56:27 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:56:27 -0500 Subject: Synching Kontact? In-Reply-To: <200702282238.08290.veritastic@gmail.com> References: <200702282238.08290.veritastic@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E6791B.8000306@gatech.edu> Chris Rohde wrote: > Hey all, > is it possible to sync the calendar portion of Kontact with an online source, > say google calendar? Yeah. Open the Calendar section of Kontact, click Add..., then select Calendar in Remote File. Then go to Google Calendar, click "manage calendars" in the bottom left. Then click on the calendar you want to sync, then Right click ICAL and copy the link address. Paste that back into Kontact in the "Download from" box and you should be good to go (you probably want to set the calendar to auto-refresh). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 1 07:13:40 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:13:40 -0500 Subject: grub In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E67D24.9040003@gatech.edu> raymondjwoods at hotmail.com wrote: > How do I get rid of the grub bootup on my main disk drive? I need to delete linux and just run windows for now I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. Why would you possibly want to get rid of our beloved GNU/Linux? Actually, you can run fdisk (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255867/en-us). It's on the Windows installation disk I believe (try Recovery/Repair Console). That can remove grub and GNU/Linux with no problems. In fact, you can even prevent grub from being instal+++NO CARRIER+++ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 1 08:15:34 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:15:34 -0500 Subject: Re printer question In-Reply-To: <200702281409.23401.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <45E1F37C.7040001@libero.it> <200702252126.44449.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200702281525.34886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200702281409.23401.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <45E68BA6.8070904@gatech.edu> grumpy wrote: > On Wednesday 28 February 2007 01:25:34 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> On Sunday 25 February 2007 9:26 pm, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>> Be VERY wary of Brother. Their support for Linux STINKS!! I have a >>> fed it tearoff edges from a box on the floor behind it. When I asked for >>> a true ascii wheel for it, they said we don't support linux and refused >>> to even look at the parts book to see if they had one. >> Just in the interest of fairness here... HP gets my vote for easiest >> inkjet type printer to get working with Linux. I've got some PSC something >> or other multifunction gizmo working just fine for Mom, scanner works, >> etc., and I've had excellent results with other HP printers too. (I've >> never tried one with a built-in fax.) >> >> However, since migrating to Linux, I've used nothing but Brother printers. >> I run lasers, because I can live with out color, and when I print, I print >> a gob of pages. Brother lasers have always done the job for me with no >> hassles at all, and I see no reason to feel that their Linux support >> stinks. It could be better, like HP's, but it's adequate, and at least it >> exists. Of course, I'm speaking only of lasers, and have no idea how >> Brother inkjets, etc., fare. >> >> -- >> D. Michael McIntyre > The Samsung ML 2010 laser printer has been giving me great service and most > linux distros can configure it automatically best of all it only cost around > $130.00 I also use that, and even though the formatting isn't perfect, it works pretty well and can be automatically installed (though you might have to use the Samsung ML-4500 gdi menu entry). Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How to solve this? > > Purge kontact to remove it completely, and if needed, re-install > kmail ,korganizer etc. > > However kmail etc will not appear in the menu without kontact so... > copy the relevant .desktop files from /usr/share/kde/applications into > ~/.local/share/applications. Then, in ~/etc edit each file and delete the > last line which reads NoDisplay=true. This will then put kmail, korganizer > etc back into your main menu. Hi, I got the menu entries thanks for that. But I still have one big complaint. Before I ran kontact the first time, I could click on the korganizer reminder button which opened korganizer. Since the first startup of used kontact this does no longer work. SO my new question is, how to adapt the korganizer reminder button so that korganizer is opened (without kontact!!) Tx > > HTH > Jim >   -- mvg/Alain ________________________________________________________ Alain Muls Tel +32.2.7426340 Royal Military Academy Fax +32.2.7426472 Dep CISS-ASGE alain.muls at telenet.be ________________________________________________________ From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Thu Mar 1 12:44:03 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:44:03 -0500 Subject: Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <45E6773D.8080802@gatech.edu> References: <1172659716.31251.1176947275@webmail.messagingengine.com> <200702280742.51830.manchicken@notsosoft.net> <1172695739.4504.1177054419@webmail.messagingengine.com> <45E6773D.8080802@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172753043.6006.1177170195@webmail.messagingengine.com> > > If my view of the problem is right, EVERYBODY who goes > > in System Settings/Sound System, then clicks on 'Defaults' > > in the bottom, then unmark 'Auto-suspend if idle after:', then > > click Apply, will begin to have amarok not working, and kaffeine > > begin not playing sound. > > Why would you do that? You're complaining about the default behavior, > but here you admit that the default behavior is not the problem. I say that running artsd without the default 'Auto-suspend if idle' hack would make everyone have big problems with amarok and have no sound in kaffeine. I say that not running artsd at all, would not make very much different because up to now, it seems that 'only' KDE use it. Sure the best would be to make kaffeine and amarok look for artsd in the first place, and use it to make sound. But I believe we are in feature freeze right now, and that it is not a good idea to begin that task now. Then, the default behaviour which is running artsd with the 'Auto-suspend if idle' hack, I suppose, put people somewhere between the two previous cases, that is, to have problems only occasionaly. My opinion is that never having problems would be a better default than having problems only occasionaly. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin From manuel at mclure.org Thu Mar 1 14:53:35 2007 From: manuel at mclure.org (Manuel McLure) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 6:53:35 -0800 Subject: Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <1172753043.6006.1177170195@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1172753043.6006.1177170195@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <5215dfbf6d769713eb08bf6afad1d99a@localhost> On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:44:03 -0500, "Paul Dufresne" wrote: > I say that not running artsd at all, would not make very > much different because up to now, it seems that 'only' KDE > use it. Sure the best would be to make kaffeine and amarok > look for artsd in the first place, and use it to make sound. > But I believe we are in feature freeze right now, and that > it is not a good idea to begin that task now. Amarok already supports using artsd for output. You set it up in the Engine options. I use it myself because the ALSA driver for my sound card does a really crappy job of converting sample rates, and when I play an 44.1KHz sample rate internet stream on my 48KHz driver it crackles. Playing through artsd solves this problem. I expect that Kaffeine can also play through artsd, but I haven't tried it. From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Mar 1 15:05:18 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:05:18 +0200 Subject: New kernel and nvidia on Dapper Message-ID: <45E6EBAE.20805@rmk.co.il> I saw an older thread about problems with the new kernel and nvidia under Dapper but deleted them as I thought that after a week or more the problems should have been fixed - NO! I did an update/upgrade a few days ago and only yesterday booted into the new kernel (we had a power outage) only to find that Xorg couldn't find the nvidia kernel module. Not much of a problem - I just rebooted into the previous kernel and everything is OK again. BUT why did apt let me know that there were dependency problems when upgrading? Isn't this the power of apt? Is there a solution to the new kernel and nvidia drivers yet or do I have to wait for another new kernel? I'm now kicking myself for deleting the thread :-( Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it Thu Mar 1 15:34:11 2007 From: piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it (Piero Ottuzzi) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:34:11 +0100 Subject: New kernel and nvidia on Dapper In-Reply-To: <45E6EBAE.20805@rmk.co.il> References: <45E6EBAE.20805@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703011634.14816.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Hi Nigel, sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic should be enough. Bye Piero Alle 16:05, giovedì 1 marzo 2007, Nigel Ridley ha scritto: > I saw an older thread about problems with the new kernel and nvidia under > Dapper but deleted them as I thought that after a week or more the problems > should have been fixed - NO! > > I did an update/upgrade a few days ago and only yesterday booted into the > new kernel (we had a power outage) only to find that Xorg couldn't find the > nvidia kernel module. > > Not much of a problem - I just rebooted into the previous kernel and > everything is OK again. > > BUT why did apt let me know that there were dependency problems when > upgrading? Isn't this the power of apt? > > Is there a solution to the new kernel and nvidia drivers yet or do I have > to wait for another new kernel? > > I'm now kicking myself for deleting the thread :-( > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > > -- > OliveRoot Ministries > http://www.oliveroot.net/ > > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ -- Anyone who has had a bull by the tail knows five or six more things than someone who hasn't. -- Mark Twain --------------------------------------- GPG KeyID: 84AE988E Fingerprint: F0A0 CA2A 8D8F CC12 3F5E C04C D8D5 9DC3 84AE 988E gpg --keyserver x-hkp://search.keyserver.net:11371 --recv-key 84AE988E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Blessings, Nigel > > Alle 16:05, giovedì 1 marzo 2007, Nigel Ridley ha scritto: >> I saw an older thread about problems with the new kernel and nvidia under >> Dapper but deleted them as I thought that after a week or more the problems >> should have been fixed - NO! >> >> I did an update/upgrade a few days ago and only yesterday booted into the >> new kernel (we had a power outage) only to find that Xorg couldn't find the >> nvidia kernel module. >> >> Not much of a problem - I just rebooted into the previous kernel and >> everything is OK again. >> >> BUT why did apt let me know that there were dependency problems when >> upgrading? Isn't this the power of apt? >> >> Is there a solution to the new kernel and nvidia drivers yet or do I have >> to wait for another new kernel? >> >> I'm now kicking myself for deleting the thread :-( >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> >> -- >> OliveRoot Ministries >> http://www.oliveroot.net/ >> >> PrayingForIsrael.net >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Mar 1 16:20:55 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:20:55 +0200 Subject: New kernel and nvidia on Dapper In-Reply-To: <200703011634.14816.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> References: <45E6EBAE.20805@rmk.co.il> <200703011634.14816.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Message-ID: <45E6FD67.4060602@rmk.co.il> Piero Ottuzzi wrote: > Hi Nigel, > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic > > should be enough. > > Bye > Piero Just to say that as soon as the install was completed apt (through the taskbar update thingy) informed me that two more packages were available for upgrading: linux-restricted-modules-common nvidia-glx so I did the upgrade - now I'm going to reboot....... Blessings, Nigel > > Alle 16:05, giovedì 1 marzo 2007, Nigel Ridley ha scritto: >> I saw an older thread about problems with the new kernel and nvidia under >> Dapper but deleted them as I thought that after a week or more the problems >> should have been fixed - NO! >> >> I did an update/upgrade a few days ago and only yesterday booted into the >> new kernel (we had a power outage) only to find that Xorg couldn't find the >> nvidia kernel module. >> >> Not much of a problem - I just rebooted into the previous kernel and >> everything is OK again. >> >> BUT why did apt let me know that there were dependency problems when >> upgrading? Isn't this the power of apt? >> >> Is there a solution to the new kernel and nvidia drivers yet or do I have >> to wait for another new kernel? >> >> I'm now kicking myself for deleting the thread :-( >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> >> -- >> OliveRoot Ministries >> http://www.oliveroot.net/ >> >> PrayingForIsrael.net >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From mlnx at mho.com Thu Mar 1 16:37:38 2007 From: mlnx at mho.com (Mike) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:37:38 -0700 Subject: Application link problem? In-Reply-To: References: <45E5ECC0.5030604@mho.com> Message-ID: <45E70152.1000205@mho.com> I don't know how to create a custom command associated with a file type. Do you mean to add a new application type and associate it with .jar ? Java is already a known file type, associating it with .jar won't work and I don't think you can make a file type called 'java -jar'. In KDE custom commands are talked about in context of the KDE Menu Editor, which generates a menu entry to execute the command you supply. For example java -jar myapp.jar I did that and it doesn't work either. I thought I did this successfully with other KDE distros, but maybe not. Mike Jonathan Zeppettini wrote: > Can't you just add a custom command for dealing with this file type in > general (.jar) > > e.g. java -jar > > That way when you double click on [appname].jar it automatically > prepends the above command... > > I'm in Ubuntu right now so I can't recall how this is achieved in KDE > but in GNOME it would be done through the "Open With" tab of the > properties dialog. > > On 2/28/07, Mike wrote: > >> I have a java jar file. I can execute it using >> >> "java -jar myapp.jar" from a terminal window >> >> or I can make a .sh file containing the above and execute it from a >> terminal window. >> >> If I create a desktop link to either the java statement (with complete >> path myapp.jar) or to the .sh file, it won't execute. The app appears >> in the bottom task bar, the icon jumps around and then goes away. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > > From piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it Thu Mar 1 17:21:09 2007 From: piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it (Piero Ottuzzi) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:21:09 +0100 Subject: New kernel and nvidia on Dapper In-Reply-To: <45E6FB89.3080000@rmk.co.il> References: <45E6EBAE.20805@rmk.co.il> <200703011634.14816.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> <45E6FB89.3080000@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703011821.12190.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Hi Nigel, well... I really don't know... it screwed my PC as yours and I'm still asking myself why... maybe someone can help us to understand :) Bye Piero Alle 17:12, giovedì 1 marzo 2007, Nigel Ridley ha scritto: > Piero Ottuzzi wrote: > > Hi Nigel, > > > > sudo apt-get update > > sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic > > > > should be enough. > > > > Bye > > Piero > > Thanks Piero - I'm downloading it now. But why didn't apt let me know that > I needed it? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > > Alle 16:05, giovedì 1 marzo 2007, Nigel Ridley ha scritto: > >> I saw an older thread about problems with the new kernel and nvidia > >> under Dapper but deleted them as I thought that after a week or more the > >> problems should have been fixed - NO! > >> > >> I did an update/upgrade a few days ago and only yesterday booted into > >> the new kernel (we had a power outage) only to find that Xorg couldn't > >> find the nvidia kernel module. > >> > >> Not much of a problem - I just rebooted into the previous kernel and > >> everything is OK again. > >> > >> BUT why did apt let me know that there were dependency problems when > >> upgrading? Isn't this the power of apt? > >> > >> Is there a solution to the new kernel and nvidia drivers yet or do I > >> have to wait for another new kernel? > >> > >> I'm now kicking myself for deleting the thread :-( > >> > >> Blessings, > >> > >> Nigel > >> > >> > >> -- > >> OliveRoot Ministries > >> http://www.oliveroot.net/ > >> > >> PrayingForIsrael.net > >> http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ > > -- > OliveRoot Ministries > http://www.oliveroot.net/ > > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ -- If one cannot enjoy reading a book over and over again, there is no use in reading it at all. -- Oscar Wilde --------------------------------------- GPG KeyID: 84AE988E Fingerprint: F0A0 CA2A 8D8F CC12 3F5E C04C D8D5 9DC3 84AE 988E gpg --keyserver x-hkp://search.keyserver.net:11371 --recv-key 84AE988E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 19:16:43 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:16:43 +0200 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> > substances, and I've had to pee in a cup for 15 years in order to afford to > support my computer habit. :) > Heh, you sell cups of pee for a living now? ;) /d From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Thu Mar 1 19:24:07 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:24:07 -0500 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E72857.9010906@optonline.net> Donn wrote: >>substances, and I've had to pee in a cup for 15 years in order to afford to >>support my computer habit. :) >> >> >> >Heh, you sell cups of pee for a living now? ;) > > >/d > > > I´d like to get in on that racket. Heck, I drink about 4 pots of coffee a day...I could make a fortune! /tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:05:38 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:05:38 +0200 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <45E72857.9010906@optonline.net> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> <45E72857.9010906@optonline.net> Message-ID: <45E74022.7050603@gmail.com> > like to get in on that racket. > Heck, I drink about 4 pots of coffee a day...I could make a fortune! > > /tony > > :) Shame, Michael is now an acid-head peeing into cups and selling it -- and all because his Firefox 2 went crazy! Heh, you gotta watch this list! :D :D /d From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:28:35 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:28:35 +0200 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <45E74022.7050603@gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> <45E72857.9010906@optonline.net> <45E74022.7050603@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00703011328n38db0aeg966dacc7bc57d764@mail.gmail.com> On 01/03/07, Donn wrote: > > > like to get in on that racket. > > Heck, I drink about 4 pots of coffee a day...I could make a fortune! > > > > /tony > > > > > :) Shame, Michael is now an acid-head peeing into cups and selling it -- > and all because his Firefox 2 went crazy! > Heh, you gotta watch this list! :D :D > ...I've created a monster... From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:43:14 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:43:14 +0200 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <880dece00703011328n38db0aeg966dacc7bc57d764@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> <45E72857.9010906@optonline.net> <45E74022.7050603@gmail.com> <880dece00703011328n38db0aeg966dacc7bc57d764@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E748F2.5090502@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 01/03/07, Donn wrote: > >>> like to get in on that racket. >>> Heck, I drink about 4 pots of coffee a day...I could make a fortune! >>> >>> /tony >>> >>> >>> >> :) Shame, Michael is now an acid-head peeing into cups and selling it -- >> and all because his Firefox 2 went crazy! >> Heh, you gotta watch this list! :D :D >> >> > > ...I've created a monster... > > Yes -- everyone, when asked to place the blame and generally point fingers, Dotan's your man. :) Hoo boy! I shouldn't confess at this point that my Kubuntu desktop PC just went boom (with a little puff of smoke) and I am now on the Win*ahem*dows laptop posting to the kubu users list! What will become of me? Whatever, 'tis late -- to bed! /d From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Thu Mar 1 21:53:10 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:53:10 -0500 Subject: Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <5215dfbf6d769713eb08bf6afad1d99a@localhost> References: <1172753043.6006.1177170195@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5215dfbf6d769713eb08bf6afad1d99a@localhost> Message-ID: <1172785990.15123.1177269121@webmail.messagingengine.com> > Amarok already supports using artsd for output. Indeed, Amarok and kaffeine both use Xine engine. and according to: http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#AUDIODRIVERS Xine is SUPPOSED TO support arts. >You set it up in the > Engine options. I use it myself because ... I don't have arts in my xine engine driver options. I have: auto, alsa, oss, pulseaudio, and file. Are you using feisty? Are others using feisty see arts in their list? Of them, I think only pulseaudio mix multiple programs output to play them simultaneously. Pulse audio is suggested to replace artsd and esd in the following spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cleanup-audio-jumble I have been able, with some work, to use pulseaudio, but because KDE sound system (in system settings) does not seems to support it, then it is not so usefull. I repeat to people using feisty, do you have arts in amarok-xine and kaffeine-xine driver options? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free From xxmkrxx at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 03:48:23 2007 From: xxmkrxx at gmail.com (MKR) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:48:23 -0500 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <45E748F2.5090502@gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> <45E72857.9010906@optonline.net> <45E74022.7050603@gmail.com> <880dece00703011328n38db0aeg966dacc7bc57d764@mail.gmail.com> <45E748F2.5090502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c2876850703011948k67c5f465tfb77fc431e483c98@mail.gmail.com> Exposure to Linux gives you resistence to Windows' various effects. Just don't stay too long ot you may become ill. On 3/1/07, Donn wrote: > Yes -- everyone, when asked to place the blame and generally point > fingers, Dotan's your man. :) > > Hoo boy! I shouldn't confess at this point that my Kubuntu desktop PC > just went boom (with a little puff of smoke) and I am now on the > Win*ahem*dows laptop posting to the kubu users list! What will become of me? > > Whatever, 'tis late -- to bed! > > /d From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 2 06:19:16 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:19:16 -0500 Subject: Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <1172753043.6006.1177170195@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1172659716.31251.1176947275@webmail.messagingengine.com> <200702280742.51830.manchicken@notsosoft.net> <1172695739.4504.1177054419@webmail.messagingengine.com> <45E6773D.8080802@gatech.edu> <1172753043.6006.1177170195@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <45E7C1E4.3060009@gatech.edu> Paul Dufresne wrote: > My opinion is that never having problems would be > a better default than having problems only occasionaly. 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Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:23:14 -0500 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703020123.14330.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 01 March 2007 2:16 pm, Donn wrote: > > substances, and I've had to pee in a cup for 15 years in order to afford > > to support my computer habit. :) > > Heh, you sell cups of pee for a living now? ;) | | \ | | / \ | | / / \ \|____|/ / \ / \ / / \ | | | \====/ | \ || / \ || / |///| |///| \//// U -- D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 07:02:41 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:02:41 +0200 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <200703020123.14330.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> <200703020123.14330.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <45E7CC11.1090207@gmail.com> > > | | > \ | | / > \ | | / / > \ \|____|/ / > \ / \ / > / \ > | | > | \====/ | > \ || / > \ || / > |///| > |///| > \//// > U Wow Weilder of lysergic $10.99 pee and Master of Ascii too! That's the coolest lightbulb I ever done seen :) An' he didn't use one curvy bracket folks! That's pure skill there. :D Jeez I want my Kubuntu desktop back. I can't stand it! I'm getting cranky! /d From linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 2 09:30:06 2007 From: linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk (linux_smz) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:30:06 +0000 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <8c2876850703011948k67c5f465tfb77fc431e483c98@mail.gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00702281314h3df2c956p6baf1ed6bc33e8eb@mail.gmail.com> <200702282138.31148.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E7269B.4070107@gmail.com> <45E72857.9010906@optonline.net> <45E74022.7050603@gmail.com> <880dece00703011328n38db0aeg966dacc7bc57d764@mail.gmail.com> <45E748F2.5090502@gmail.com> <8c2876850703011948k67c5f465tfb77fc431e483c98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E7EE9E.3060801@yahoo.co.uk> MKR wrote: > Exposure to Linux gives you resistence to Windows' various effects. > Just don't stay too long ot you may become ill. > > On 3/1/07, Donn wrote: > > >> Yes -- everyone, when asked to place the blame and generally point >> fingers, Dotan's your man. :) >> >> Hoo boy! I shouldn't confess at this point that my Kubuntu desktop PC >> just went boom (with a little puff of smoke) and I am now on the >> Win*ahem*dows laptop posting to the kubu users list! What will become of me? >> >> Whatever, 'tis late -- to bed! >> >> /d >> > > I read these posts mostly for the laugh of it. My Kubuntu isn't working (waiting on parts for my pc) but i read these for the craic. -- Get Thunderbird -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can't stand it! I'm getting cranky! > > /d From linux_milano at yahoo.it Fri Mar 2 09:51:58 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:51:58 +0100 Subject: 'system settings' inconsitencies Message-ID: The 'system settings' v 0.2 appears to report inconsitent informations. E.g about sendmail: start at boot: 'yes' status 'not running' Yet sendmail is running, as one can infer from: % ps ax|grep sendmail 5088 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: MTA: accepting connections Any possible explainations? thank you -- Pol From linux_milano at yahoo.it Fri Mar 2 09:47:19 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:47:19 +0100 Subject: hibernating laptop Message-ID: My laptop 'suspend to ram' facility does not work well: sometimes my laptop recovers, sometimes the display stays black, although the system has restarted, user being able to remotely connect through an ssh session. So i have tried to install the 'hibernate' and the 'uswsusp' packages They do not conflict each other nor they ask any questions at the installation stage. Any advice about which package to chose? How to enable one of them? thank you -- Pol From philbieber at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 11:10:57 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:10:57 +0100 Subject: hibernating laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703020310r24238172q2f420f25c99fb0c@mail.gmail.com> Hi! What kind of Laptop do you have? It depends on the make of it, it's BIOS and other components. Have a look at www.tuxmobile.com, perhaps you can find something about your Laptop... Cheers Philipp Bieber On 3/2/07, pol wrote: > > > > My laptop 'suspend to ram' facility does not work well: sometimes > my laptop recovers, sometimes the display stays black, although the > system has restarted, user being able to remotely connect through > an ssh session. > > So i have tried to install the 'hibernate' and the 'uswsusp' packages > They do not conflict each other nor they ask any questions at the > installation stage. > Any advice about which package to chose? > How to enable one of them? > > thank you > > -- > Pol > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Michael McIntyre wrote: >On Thursday 01 March 2007 2:16 pm, Donn wrote: > > >>>substances, and I've had to pee in a cup for 15 years in order to afford >>>to support my computer habit. :) >>> >>> >>Heh, you sell cups of pee for a living now? ;) >> >> > > | | >\ | | / > \ | | / / >\ \|____|/ / > \ / \ / > / \ > | | > | \====/ | > \ || / > \ || / > |///| > |///| > \//// > U > > Would you believe...a pee powered battery: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/03/just_what_we_ne_3.php -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 2 13:12:07 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:12:07 +0000 Subject: [unclassified] label makers and linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070302131207.45b526b7@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:12:48 -0600 Lokeey wrote: > hey all, i'm thinking of purchasing a label maker, has anyone tried > using label makers with linux, if so is this a pain to setup or is it > mostly plug 'n play? [snipped] Any special reason for getting a label maker? I've found that gLabels does anything I want when printing with my old HP Deskjet 880C, and if I want barcodes on anything, kbarcode will do it (though my experience is its not as good as gLabels). Apart from that I can't help as I don't need to use label makers.... -- Graham From dennis at top-dog-home.com Fri Mar 2 13:58:22 2007 From: dennis at top-dog-home.com (Dennis Morgan) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 07:58:22 -0600 Subject: Backup Solution In-Reply-To: References: <45D2640D.10202@gatech.edu> <45D27E20.7090702@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172843902.12124.4.camel@localhost> Kdar. It's in the repostories. Easy to pick one individual file for restore. Carves every thing up to fit on your medium. Can be verified. Dennis On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 22:29 -0500, Jonathan Zeppettini wrote: > I see, have you tried to use keep, I haven't personally used it > however it seems to meet the criteria you outlined... Backups of > specific directories with optional scheduling and compression. > > http://jr.falleri.free.fr/keep > > sudo apt-get install keep > > Let me know if it works well for you, I may give it a try as well > instead of doing things manually. > > On 2/13/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Jonathan Zeppettini wrote: > > > I would personally recommend partimage for system backups, it's > > > fantastic for imaging drives and should serve your needs if you use > > > the split option so the output file can span multiple CD/DVD discs... > > > > Thanks, that does sound useful, and I'll keep it in mind. However, > > right now I'm mainly focused on data backups. I.E. the kind of stuff I > > keep in my home directory, documents, music, videos, mail, browser > > settings, code I'm working on, etc. For instance, I'd like a way to > > plan out backups, like maybe monthly backups of all data, with > > incremental backups in between. > > > > Matthew Flaschen > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > -- > JZ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've found that > gLabels does anything I want when printing with my old HP Deskjet 880C, > and if I want barcodes on anything, kbarcode will do it (though my > experience is its not as good as gLabels). > > Apart from that I can't help as I don't need to use label makers.... > > -- > > Graham > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dgvirtual at akl.lt Fri Mar 2 09:03:29 2007 From: dgvirtual at akl.lt (Donatas G.) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:03:29 +0200 Subject: switching keyboard layouts with keyboard? Message-ID: <200703021103.29500.dgvirtual@akl.lt> Hi, how do I enable switching keyboard layouts using keyboard key combinations, e.g., Alt+Shift? There seem to be options for that in System Settings > Regional & Language > Keyboard layouts > Xkb settings but the options are so numerous and nothing seems to be working right, so I am lost... I would guess that the option "Alt+Shift changes group" that has a command setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle is the right one, but it is not working. MAybe to get it working I have to set more options? Using Kubuntu 6.10 -- Donatas Glodenis http://dg.lapas.info From einfall at mac.com Fri Mar 2 15:41:06 2007 From: einfall at mac.com (eric) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:41:06 -0600 Subject: OS X file sharing Message-ID: <200703020941.06580.einfall@mac.com> Hi all- I have been having much trouble trying to get my pbook, kubuntu pc and iMac to share files effortlessly. They are all on the same wired network, and I have enabled 'Personal File Sharing' on each Mac. I have also enabled 'Windows Sharing'. The Kubuntu box has been setup for 'Simple Sharing' at this point. I can, on occasion, connect to the Kub comp from each mac - I can't write to it, but I can grab items. I CANNOT however see anything from the Kub box on my Macs. If I go to Remote Places>Samba Shares>Workgroup I DO see each Mac computer. But when I click and open them, they are both empty. Help is appreciated - Thanks in advance. eric From antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 15:42:55 2007 From: antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com (arcorreia) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:42:55 +0000 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> I've been using wireless access to internet through rausb0. Now I have the router in the room, next to my computer, and I tried to disable wifi access and have it through eth0. I went to system configuration/network configuration and enabled eth0 and dissabled rausb0. Both are configureg for DHCP. No matter what I do, I don't manage to have eth0 connecting to my service provider (Broadband cable). And it's realy weird because before using wifi I was connected directly with eth0 without any problem. Can someone help me through this? Thanks, Antonio From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 2 16:15:29 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:15:29 +0000 Subject: labelmakers and linux In-Reply-To: References: <20070302131207.45b526b7@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20070302161529.131ac515@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:27:28 -0600 Lokeey wrote: > actually the one i have right now is okay, but i wanted one that i > could use printing labels on my pc. i've never heard of gLabels? > where can i can check that out? It's got a web site with screenshots at http://glabels.sourceforge.net/ Its in the main Ubuntu repositories. Its a Gnome app (but it runs ok under KDE without too many Gnome dependencies). Try doing in konsole: sudo apt-get install glabels If you want to go with Kbarcode, do the same, only install kbarcode instead of install glabels. Not too sure if you have to open the universe and multiverse repositories (they are here). Don't forget OpenOffice.com Writer and Abiword have label printing facilities in them. Just get a label printing progam you like and your PC + printer should do the job! -- Graham From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 2 18:22:17 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:22:17 -0500 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> References: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172859737.28636.1177426241@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:42:55 +0000, "arcorreia" said: > I've been using wireless access to internet through rausb0. > Now I have the router in the room, next to my computer, and I tried to > disable > wifi access and have it through eth0. > I went to system configuration/network configuration and enabled eth0 and > dissabled rausb0. Both are configureg for DHCP. > No matter what I do, I don't manage to have eth0 connecting to my service > provider (Broadband cable). > And it's realy weird because before using wifi I was connected directly > with > eth0 without any problem. > Can someone help me through this? Well, I don't know how people in general configure their ADSL modem (not even sure the term ADSL for broadband cable is correct), but normally I open a console (System/konsole should do), and type in 'sudo pppoe-config' and follows the instruction. Is this what you had tried? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 2 18:33:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:33:37 -0500 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <1172859737.28636.1177426241@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> <1172859737.28636.1177426241@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <45E86E01.70901@gatech.edu> Paul Dufresne wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:42:55 +0000, "arcorreia" > said: >> I've been using wireless access to internet through rausb0. >> Now I have the router in the room, next to my computer, and I tried to >> disable >> wifi access and have it through eth0. >> I went to system configuration/network configuration and enabled eth0 and >> dissabled rausb0. Both are configureg for DHCP. >> No matter what I do, I don't manage to have eth0 connecting to my service >> provider (Broadband cable). >> And it's realy weird because before using wifi I was connected directly >> with >> eth0 without any problem. >> Can someone help me through this? > > Well, I don't know how people in general configure their ADSL modem (not > even > sure the term ADSL for broadband cable is correct), but normally I open > a > console (System/konsole should do) DSL and cable are different kinds of broadband. Cable uses a cable, DSL uses a phone line (and PPP). Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Try it for free From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 2 19:11:41 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:11:41 -0500 Subject: Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <45E7C1E4.3060009@gatech.edu> References: <1172659716.31251.1176947275@webmail.messagingengine.com> <200702280742.51830.manchicken@notsosoft.net> <1172695739.4504.1177054419@webmail.messagingengine.com> <45E6773D.8080802@gatech.edu> <1172753043.6006.1177170195@webmail.messagingengine.com> <45E7C1E4.3060009@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <1172862701.3140.1177433353@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 01:19:16 -0500, "Matthew Flaschen" said: > Paul Dufresne wrote: > > My opinion is that never having problems would be > > a better default than having problems only occasionaly. > > I don't have sound problems occasionally with the default setup. Then, I could only guess that maybe my xine is unable to use arts for some reason. Would you be so kind as opening Amarok, go to menu setting/ Configure Amarok..., then select Engine on the left, in 'Configure xine engine panel', open the 'Output plugin' combo-box, and tell me if arts is there? And if you are running development version (feisty)? That could help me understand why I do get occasional problems and not you. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 2 20:32:16 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:32:16 -0500 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <1172861990.1563.1177431623@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> <1172859737.28636.1177426241@webmail.messagingengine.com> <45E86E01.70901@gatech.edu> <1172861990.1563.1177431623@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <45E889D0.6090407@gatech.edu> Paul Dufresne wrote: >> DSL and cable are different kinds of broadband. Cable uses a cable, DSL >> uses a phone line (and PPP). > yeah, but PPP can be use on most kind of physical link, not? Possibly. > Isn't PPPOE (PPP over Ethernet) use by cable Internet access > proviers too? Not any I'm familiar with. They use a standard cable modem without special authentication. Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And if you are running development version (feisty)? No, arts is not there. I have auto-detect selected. I am running gNewSense-kde, which is Kubuntu Dapper modified to remove non-free code. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Mar 2 22:25:26 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:25:26 +0200 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 Message-ID: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about installing Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info about any Linux distro) on this machine. Secondly, are Acer laptops OK or am I better off investing some more cash and getting a Lenovo? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch Fri Mar 2 22:41:06 2007 From: schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:41:06 +0100 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 In-Reply-To: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> References: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703022341.22593.schweingruber@pharma-traduction.ch> Hi Nigel, Le Vendredi, 2. Mars 2007, Nigel Ridley a écrit : > I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about installing > Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). > > Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info about any Linux > distro) on this machine. > > Secondly, are Acer laptops OK or am I better off investing some more cash > and getting a Lenovo? I'm running a 2 year old TravelMate 4002 15,4" and never had any problems with it. But I should also be more precise: never used the modem nor the iRDA port, But Ethernet,Wireless and Bluetooth work fine. Greets, Myriam -- Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 23:44:38 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:44:38 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness Message-ID: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> Hello all (take 2 - I'm new to Thunderbird), After my recent mother(ed)board meltdown, I have been forced to join the 21st Century and get new stuff. A friend helped me get the parts at just about cost, so that helped. Anyway, the thing: It's an AMD Athlon 64bit CPU (X2) and I have no idea how to .. well anything with 64 bit. 1. Can I boot off my previous machine's hard drive? It had Kubu Dapper i386 installed (assuming my drives didn't go bang too ...) Will the i386 version run just like that? Do I have to do some BIOS footwork? 2. If I decide to go for it and install a 64 bit Kubuntu, is it on the original Dapper install CD, or do I have to fetch a special .iso file? 3. Can I run 32bit apps from the repos? I mean I don't know how far the 64bit compiling has gone. Is KDE in a 64bit version, or is it only the kernel that goes 64 while the apps kinda catch-up randomly? 4. I guess I just am totally unsure about which repos to use and if they can be mixed. So, any suggestions. I really hope I have not goofed with the chip-choice. I might have a day to change the order still ... /d From Nathan at EckenrodeHouse.net Sat Mar 3 00:48:45 2007 From: Nathan at EckenrodeHouse.net (Nathan Eckenrode) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:48:45 -0500 Subject: OS X file sharing References: <200703020941.06580.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: eric wrote: > Hi all- > I have been having much trouble trying to get my pbook, kubuntu pc and > iMac to share files effortlessly. They are all on the same wired network, > and I have enabled 'Personal File Sharing' on each Mac. I have also > enabled 'Windows Sharing'. > The Kubuntu box has been setup for 'Simple Sharing' at this point. I can, > on occasion, connect to the Kub comp from each mac - I can't write to it, > but I can grab items. I CANNOT however see anything from the Kub box on my > Macs. If I go to Remote Places>Samba Shares>Workgroup I DO see each Mac > computer. But when I click and open them, they are both empty. > > Help is appreciated - Thanks in advance. > > eric on you macs you need to enable sharing under system settings. set it up to both allow ssh and ftp and you can use either of those functions quite easily to transfer material back and forth. i use fish:// in konqueror to connect to my mac mini which has an external hd, and this allows me to act as if teh external hd is connect to my kubuntu laptop~ even if i go out of teh house and use the free internet in the library or cafe. From hobbsee at kubuntu.org Sat Mar 3 01:00:12 2007 From: hobbsee at kubuntu.org (Sarah Hobbs) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:00:12 +1100 Subject: Backup Solution In-Reply-To: <1172843902.12124.4.camel@localhost> References: <45D2640D.10202@gatech.edu> <45D27E20.7090702@gatech.edu> <1172843902.12124.4.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <45E8C89C.1010701@kubuntu.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kdar doesn't actually build on edgy or feisty. Small problem. The latest kdar does not work with the latest dar, it's listed on their homepage. We can't really go down a version of dar, as other programs rely on the latest dar. They may have changed that, of course, in which case i'll be happy to upload it. Hobbsee Dennis Morgan wrote: > Kdar. It's in the repostories. Easy to pick one individual file for > restore. Carves every thing up to fit on your medium. Can be verified. > > Dennis > > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 22:29 -0500, Jonathan Zeppettini wrote: >> I see, have you tried to use keep, I haven't personally used it >> however it seems to meet the criteria you outlined... Backups of >> specific directories with optional scheduling and compression. >> >> http://jr.falleri.free.fr/keep >> >> sudo apt-get install keep >> >> Let me know if it works well for you, I may give it a try as well >> instead of doing things manually. >> >> On 2/13/07, Matthew Flaschen > wrote: >> > Jonathan Zeppettini wrote: >> > > I would personally recommend partimage for system backups, it's >> > > fantastic for imaging drives and should serve your needs if you use >> > > the split option so the output file can span multiple CD/DVD discs... >> > >> > Thanks, that does sound useful, and I'll keep it in mind. However, >> > right now I'm mainly focused on data backups. I.E. the kind of stuff I >> > keep in my home directory, documents, music, videos, mail, browser >> > settings, code I'm working on, etc. For instance, I'd like a way to >> > plan out backups, like maybe monthly backups of all data, with >> > incremental backups in between. >> > >> > Matthew Flaschen >> > >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> JZ >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6Mic7/o1b30rzoURAioDAJ9QhVhYEQUEE80VF5pNiU0Y02MVLwCeJkJf 4NKdd1tFkGRxHWZ3jWCwc0U= =n0aW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Sat Mar 3 01:10:47 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:10:47 -0500 Subject: 'system settings'/System Services inconsitencies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1172884247.14602.1177478565@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:51:58 +0100, "pol" said: > The 'system settings' v 0.2 appears to report inconsitent informations. > E.g about sendmail: > start at boot: 'yes' > status 'not running' I don't have sendmail, but I did saw similar results with udevd. Start/Stop does work, but always showing as stopped. I'll add a bug later in malone if it is not already done. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Mar 3 02:40:14 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:40:14 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E8E00E.7020101@gatech.edu> Donn wrote: > Hello all (take 2 - I'm new to Thunderbird), > After my recent mother(ed)board meltdown, I have been forced to join the > 21st Century and get new stuff. A friend helped me get the parts at just > about cost, so that helped. Anyway, the thing: It's an AMD Athlon 64bit > CPU (X2) and I have no idea how to .. well anything with 64 bit. > > 1. Can I boot off my previous machine's hard drive? It had Kubu Dapper > i386 installed (assuming my drives didn't go bang too ...) Will the i386 > version run just like that? Do I have to do some BIOS footwork? Yes, I think you can run the 386 version, but not with full performance. > 2. If I decide to go for it and install a 64 bit Kubuntu, is it on the > original Dapper install CD, or do I have to fetch a special .iso file? No, there's a separate iso. See http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ > 3. Can I run 32bit apps from the repos? You should try to use all 64-bit or 32-bit, I think. I mean I don't know how far the 64bit compiling has gone. Is KDE in a 64bit version, Yes, everything's built for 64-bit. See http://packages.ubuntu /cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkdebase%2Fkdebase-bin_3.5.2-0ubuntu27_amd64.deb&md5sum=7b32e73efc5315d65fcc8d937728c279&arch=amd64&type=security Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From einfall at mac.com Sat Mar 3 04:33:35 2007 From: einfall at mac.com (eric) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 22:33:35 -0600 Subject: OS X file sharing In-Reply-To: References: <200703020941.06580.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: <200703022233.35416.einfall@mac.com> All sharing is enabled on my Macs, I can share between them just fine. Again, I see them when I click on samba share, but once I open the icons there is nothing there. If I try to connect vis FTP or SSH, which also shows up under Remote Places>Network Service, I get the following error "Unknown host my-computer.local". I do have zero configure on as well. On Friday 02 March 2007 18:48, Nathan Eckenrode wrote: > eric wrote: > > Hi all- > > I have been having much trouble trying to get my pbook, kubuntu pc and > > iMac to share files effortlessly. They are all on the same wired network, > > and I have enabled 'Personal File Sharing' on each Mac. I have also > > enabled 'Windows Sharing'. > > The Kubuntu box has been setup for 'Simple Sharing' at this point. I can, > > on occasion, connect to the Kub comp from each mac - I can't write to it, > > but I can grab items. I CANNOT however see anything from the Kub box on > > my Macs. If I go to Remote Places>Samba Shares>Workgroup I DO see each > > Mac computer. But when I click and open them, they are both empty. > > > > Help is appreciated - Thanks in advance. > > > > eric > > on you macs you need to enable sharing under system settings. set it up to > both allow ssh and ftp and you can use either of those functions quite > easily to transfer material back and forth. i use fish:// in konqueror to > connect to my mac mini which has an external hd, and this allows me to act > as if teh external hd is connect to my kubuntu laptop~ even if i go out of > teh house and use the free internet in the library or cafe. From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Mar 3 06:23:35 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 08:23:35 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> Donn wrote: > Hello all (take 2 - I'm new to Thunderbird), > After my recent mother(ed)board meltdown, I have been forced to join the > 21st Century and get new stuff. A friend helped me get the parts at just > about cost, so that helped. Anyway, the thing: It's an AMD Athlon 64bit > CPU (X2) and I have no idea how to .. well anything with 64 bit. > > 1. Can I boot off my previous machine's hard drive? It had Kubu Dapper > i386 installed (assuming my drives didn't go bang too ...) Will the i386 > version run just like that? Do I have to do some BIOS footwork? > > 2. If I decide to go for it and install a 64 bit Kubuntu, is it on the > original Dapper install CD, or do I have to fetch a special .iso file? > > 3. Can I run 32bit apps from the repos? I mean I don't know how far the > 64bit compiling has gone. Is KDE in a 64bit version, or is it only the > kernel that goes 64 while the apps kinda catch-up randomly? > > 4. I guess I just am totally unsure about which repos to use and if they > can be mixed. > > So, any suggestions. I really hope I have not goofed with the > chip-choice. I might have a day to change the order still ... > > /d > > I've been running Kubuntu on AMD64 for about a year and a half now. The only thing I don't have is Flash - but it doesn't bother me. Everything else is in the repos. Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From joantur at cancullet.org Sat Mar 3 09:48:43 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:48:43 +0100 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 In-Reply-To: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> References: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703031048.45386.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Divendres, 2 de Març de 2007, en Nigel Ridley va escriure: | I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about installing | Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). | | Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info about any Linux | distro) on this machine. At http://tuxmobil.org/acer.html you'll find a few 51xx entries (5100, 5102 and 5112), that will probably match your hardware. Hope that helps ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 10:02:53 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:02:53 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E8E00E.7020101@gatech.edu> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <45E8E00E.7020101@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45E947CD.6000505@gmail.com> > Yes, I think you can run the 386 version, but not with full performance. Okay, that will help cos I have a bunch of stuff to get off there first. > No, there's a separate iso. See http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ Tah, I'll go get it in the meantime. > I mean I don't know how far the 64bit compiling has gone. Is KDE in a > 64bit version, > Yes, everything's built for 64-bit. See http://packages.ubuntu > /cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fk%2Fkdebase%2Fkdebase-bin_3.5.2-0ubuntu27_amd64.deb&md5sum=7b32e73efc5315d65fcc8d937728c279&arch=amd64&type=security Great! Thanks. /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 10:03:28 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:03:28 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> > I've been running Kubuntu on AMD64 for about a year and a half now. The only thing > I don't have is Flash - but it doesn't bother me. > > Everything else is in the repos. Good to hear -- I feel waaaay better now :) /d From scarselli at faunalia.it Sat Mar 3 10:15:50 2007 From: scarselli at faunalia.it (Daniele Scarselli) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:15:50 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45E94AD6.9000703@faunalia.it> for flash on AMD 64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727&highlight=flash+wrapper bye Dan Donn ha scritto: >> I've been running Kubuntu on AMD64 for about a year and a half now. The only thing >> I don't have is Flash - but it doesn't bother me. >> >> Everything else is in the repos. >> > Good to hear -- I feel waaaay better now :) > > /d > > -- Daniele Scarselli email+jabber: scarselli at faunalia.it www.faunalia.it Cell: (+39) 348-7044067 Tel+Fax: (+39) 0587-213742 Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 11:41:14 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:41:14 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E94AD6.9000703@faunalia.it> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> <45E94AD6.9000703@faunalia.it> Message-ID: I run an AMD athalon 64 x2 3800 with a 64 bit install of the current Kubuntu. I have had no real problems. I run a 32 bit swiftfox from automatix with all the needed 32 bit pluggins auto installed. All works no problems but note that some people have problems with Automatix for many reasons but that is a second bunch of worms to research. It works for me and it is just a coulple clicks. Douglas On 3/3/07, Daniele Scarselli wrote: > for flash on AMD 64: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727&highlight=flash+wrapper > > bye > Dan > > > > Donn ha scritto: > >> I've been running Kubuntu on AMD64 for about a year and a half now. The only thing > >> I don't have is Flash - but it doesn't bother me. > >> > >> Everything else is in the repos. > >> > > Good to hear -- I feel waaaay better now :) > > > > /d > > > > > > -- > Daniele Scarselli > email+jabber: scarselli at faunalia.it > www.faunalia.it > Cell: (+39) 348-7044067 Tel+Fax: (+39) 0587-213742 > Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 15:16:58 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:16:58 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> <45E94AD6.9000703@faunalia.it> Message-ID: <45E9916A.1010206@gmail.com> > I run an AMD athalon 64 x2 3800 with a 64 bit install of the current > Kubuntu. I have had no real problems. I run a 32 bit swiftfox from > automatix with all the needed 32 bit pluggins auto installed. All > works no problems but note that some people have problems with > Automatix for many reasons but that is a second bunch of worms to > research. It works for me and it is just a coulple clicks. On the subject of media codecs: Can one use the w32codecs direct from the mplayer site on 64bit Kubuntu? /d From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Mar 3 15:43:22 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:43:22 +0200 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 In-Reply-To: <200703031048.45386.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> <200703031048.45386.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <45E9979A.3020306@rmk.co.il> Joan Tur wrote: > Es Divendres, 2 de Març de 2007, en Nigel Ridley va escriure: > | I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about installing > | Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). > | > | Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info about any Linux > | distro) on this machine. > At http://tuxmobil.org/acer.html you'll find a few 51xx entries (5100, 5102 > and 5112), that will probably match your hardware. > > Hope that helps ;) > > Thanks but I had already checked out what was there and, apart from a French 'link' (which, as far as I could tell, had nothing to do with the Acer laptop) there wasn't any other useful information. There was something on Linux Laptops [http://linux-laptop.net/] installing Debian on an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi but the guy had some problems with sound and some other things. Another one [http://linux-laptop.net/hosted/Fedora-Ubuntu-Acer-Aspire-5102WLMi.html] couldn't even get any of the several distros that he tried to install. So perhaps I will put up the extra cash and get a Lenevo - Kubuntu does install OK on them - yes? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Sat Mar 3 16:32:24 2007 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:32:24 +0000 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 In-Reply-To: <45E9979A.3020306@rmk.co.il> References: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> <200703031048.45386.joantur@cancullet.org> <45E9979A.3020306@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: Nigel Ridley wrote: > Joan Tur wrote: >> Es Divendres, 2 de Març de 2007, en Nigel Ridley va escriure: | >> I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about >> installing | Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). >> | | Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info >> about any Linux | distro) on this machine. At >> http://tuxmobil.org/acer.html you'll find a few 51xx entries >> (5100, 5102 and 5112), that will probably match your hardware. >> >> Hope that helps ;) >> >> > Thanks but I had already checked out what was there and, apart from > a French 'link' (which, as far as I could tell, had nothing to do > with the Acer laptop) there wasn't any other useful information. > There was something on Linux Laptops [http://linux-laptop.net/] > installing Debian on an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi but the guy had some > problems with sound and some other things. Another one > [http://linux-laptop.net/hosted/Fedora-Ubuntu-Acer-Aspire-5102WLMi.html] > couldn't even get any of the several distros that he tried to > install. > > So perhaps I will put up the extra cash and get a Lenevo - Kubuntu > does install OK on them - yes? I saw an adverse comment about linux on a lenovo recently - from a student who was disappointed. Sorry I cannot find the detailcomment. Just that lenovo are not necessarily as committed to linux as ibm were, so I would continue checking stuff out if you can, and or use a live CD at least, before purchase. I did this in a high street camera shop, one camera did not set up easily (live CD kubuntu 6.10, my laptop) another did straight away, Bought it! Done! I gave the live CD to the shop assistant. -- ac From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Mar 3 17:07:39 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:07:39 +0200 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 In-Reply-To: References: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> <200703031048.45386.joantur@cancullet.org> <45E9979A.3020306@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <45E9AB5B.3060509@rmk.co.il> ac wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Joan Tur wrote: >>> Es Divendres, 2 de Març de 2007, en Nigel Ridley va escriure: | >>> I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about >>> installing | Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). >>> | | Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info >>> about any Linux | distro) on this machine. At >>> http://tuxmobil.org/acer.html you'll find a few 51xx entries >>> (5100, 5102 and 5112), that will probably match your hardware. >>> >>> Hope that helps ;) >>> >>> >> Thanks but I had already checked out what was there and, apart from >> a French 'link' (which, as far as I could tell, had nothing to do >> with the Acer laptop) there wasn't any other useful information. >> There was something on Linux Laptops [http://linux-laptop.net/] >> installing Debian on an Acer Aspire 5102WLMi but the guy had some >> problems with sound and some other things. Another one >> [http://linux-laptop.net/hosted/Fedora-Ubuntu-Acer-Aspire-5102WLMi.html] >> couldn't even get any of the several distros that he tried to >> install. >> >> So perhaps I will put up the extra cash and get a Lenevo - Kubuntu >> does install OK on them - yes? > > I saw an adverse comment about linux on a lenovo recently - from a > student who was disappointed. > > Sorry I cannot find the detailcomment. Just that lenovo are not > necessarily as committed to linux as ibm were, so I would continue > checking stuff out if you can, and or use a live CD at least, before > purchase. I did this in a high street camera shop, one camera did not > set up easily (live CD kubuntu 6.10, my laptop) another did straight > away, Bought it! Done! I gave the live CD to the shop assistant. Back to the drawing board - again! Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Mar 3 17:15:54 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:15:54 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703031215.54749.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 02 March 2007 6:44 pm, Donn wrote: > about cost, so that helped. Anyway, the thing: It's an AMD Athlon 64bit > CPU (X2) and I have no idea how to .. well anything with 64 bit. For an X2, you want an SMP-enabled kernel. I'm not sure what Ubuntu calls these things. I threw Dapper and maybe Edgy on a dual core laptop, and only one CPU was running out of the box, with the installed kernel. (That laptop had a Pentium CoreDuo something or other in it. I've never played with an Am64-X2, but I assume it's the same in SMP terms, with the usual caveat about what happens when you assume something.) > 1. Can I boot off my previous machine's hard drive? It had Kubu Dapper > i386 installed (assuming my drives didn't go bang too ...) Will the i386 > version run just like that? Do I have to do some BIOS footwork? Just boot it and run, with the above caveat about only using one core on your CPU with your existing kernel. (Probably.) I've had an Am64 (not dual core, just a piddly single) for some time now. Over a year I guess. I never have bothered to install 64-bit anything on it, or learn anything about 64-bit anything. Sorry, I guess I'm just not ambitious anymore. The stock standard i386 stuff runs perfectly fine on this machine. I can compile Rosegarden from scratch in under 8 minutes. I'm happy. Why worry? -- D. Michael McIntyre From schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch Sat Mar 3 17:54:29 2007 From: schweingruber at pharma-traduction.ch (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:54:29 +0100 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 In-Reply-To: <45E9979A.3020306@rmk.co.il> References: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> <200703031048.45386.joantur@cancullet.org> <45E9979A.3020306@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703031854.39524.schweingruber@pharma-traduction.ch> Le Samedi, 3. Mars 2007, Nigel Ridley a écrit : > Joan Tur wrote: > > Es Divendres, 2 de Març de 2007, en Nigel Ridley va escriure: > > | I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about > > | installing Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). > > | > > | Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info about any > > | Linux distro) on this machine. > > > > At http://tuxmobil.org/acer.html you'll find a few 51xx entries (5100, > > 5102 and 5112), that will probably match your hardware. > > > > Hope that helps ;) > > Thanks but I had already checked out what was there and, apart from a > French 'link' (which, as far as I could tell, had nothing to do with the > Acer laptop) there wasn't any other useful information. Oh but it is related: the link points to a Blog so you have to search the archives :-) I can resume it for you: everything worked fine, except: integratedOrbicam doesn't work (but keep in mind that this is the case for _most_ of the integrated webcams as the manufacturer only provides drivers for Windows, so it does not depend on the laptop manufacturer alone. Expect similar problems with Lenovo). Check the forums for this, there is a french report about managing to make it work for 30 seconds here: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=84203 - integrated cardreader 5in1 doesn't work (which very much surprises me as usually this is not reported elsewhere, I for example use an external cardreader 5in1 and never had any problems to mount it) Keep in mind that until this date, there is not a single manufacturer who optimises all its hardware for Linux. So expect drawbacks everywhere with isolated hardware, Lenovo is not better than the other ones. And especially with newer laptops you should not be surprised to have to do a lot of searching in the forums. BTW, do you really need an AMD64 processor? Stick with Intel, especially also for the graphic cards as they are the only ones to provide free 3D drivers. Greets, Myriam -- Protect your freedom, join the Fellowship of FSFE! http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Mar 3 18:45:01 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:45:01 +0200 Subject: Acer Aspire 5101 Turion 64 In-Reply-To: <200703031854.39524.schweingruber@pharma-traduction.ch> References: <45E8A456.3010109@rmk.co.il> <200703031048.45386.joantur@cancullet.org> <45E9979A.3020306@rmk.co.il> <200703031854.39524.schweingruber@pharma-traduction.ch> Message-ID: <45E9C22D.8030701@rmk.co.il> Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Le Samedi, 3. Mars 2007, Nigel Ridley a écrit : >> Joan Tur wrote: >>> Es Divendres, 2 de Març de 2007, en Nigel Ridley va escriure: >>> | I checked on the web but couldn't find much in English :-( about >>> | installing Linux on an Acer Aspire 5101 laptop (AMD Turion 64). >>> | >>> | Anybody had any joy in installing *ubuntu (or have any info about any >>> | Linux distro) on this machine. >>> >>> At http://tuxmobil.org/acer.html you'll find a few 51xx entries (5100, >>> 5102 and 5112), that will probably match your hardware. >>> >>> Hope that helps ;) >> Thanks but I had already checked out what was there and, apart from a >> French 'link' (which, as far as I could tell, had nothing to do with the >> Acer laptop) there wasn't any other useful information. > > Oh but it is related: the link points to a Blog so you have to search the > archives :-) > > I can resume it for you: everything worked fine, except: > > integratedOrbicam doesn't work (but keep in mind that this is the case for > _most_ of the integrated webcams as the manufacturer only provides drivers > for Windows, so it does not depend on the laptop manufacturer alone. Expect > similar problems with Lenovo). Check the forums for this, there is a french > report about managing to make it work for 30 seconds here: > http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=84203 > > - integrated cardreader 5in1 doesn't work (which very much surprises me as > usually this is not reported elsewhere, I for example use an external > cardreader 5in1 and never had any problems to mount it) > > Keep in mind that until this date, there is not a single manufacturer who > optimises all its hardware for Linux. So expect drawbacks everywhere with > isolated hardware, Lenovo is not better than the other ones. And especially > with newer laptops you should not be surprised to have to do a lot of > searching in the forums. > > BTW, do you really need an AMD64 processor? Stick with Intel, especially also > for the graphic cards as they are the only ones to provide free 3D drivers. > > Greets, Myriam > Thanks Myriam, That is encouraging :-) I already have a desktop AMD64 and don't miss 'Flash' much at all. The reason that I was considering the Acer is that the price is really good but I will keep in mind what you said about Intel. I'm not in a hurry as I intend to wait until Feisty Fawn is released - it's meant to have better support for laptops. Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Mar 3 18:56:06 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:56:06 -0500 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <45E889D0.6090407@gatech.edu> References: <1172861990.1563.1177431623@webmail.messagingengine.com> <45E889D0.6090407@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703031356.06725.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 02 March 2007 3:32 pm, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Isn't PPPOE (PPP over Ethernet) use by cable Internet access > > proviers too? > > Not any I'm familiar with. They use a standard cable modem without > special authentication. I agree. PPPoE is not this user's problem. I'm not sure what's going wrong here. If nobody else has any bright ideas, I can boot a Kubuntu CD on my laptop and try to play with it. I can set up a similar environment with a choice between a wireless router and an ethernet cable. I wound up pulling Linux back off that laptop though (unfriendly hardware), so it will take some tinkering to set this up. Else I would have just gone ahead and done it, and shared the results, rather than writing about what is possible. -- D. Michael McIntyre From thcsp at online.no Sat Mar 3 19:14:26 2007 From: thcsp at online.no (Thomas Sperre) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:14:26 +0100 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? Message-ID: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> What can I do with the windows key on my keyboard? It is like it is jsut sitting there.....is it possible to map it to the k-menu like the windows key is mapped to the windows menu in windows? How? From manchicken at notsosoft.net Sat Mar 3 19:31:38 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Man-Chicken) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:31:38 -0600 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> Message-ID: <200703031331.38564.manchicken@notsosoft.net> On Saturday 03 March 2007 13:14:26 Thomas Sperre wrote: > What can I do with the windows key on my keyboard? It is like it is jsut > sitting there.....is it possible to map it to the k-menu like the windows > key is mapped to the windows menu in windows? How? You can use the windows key as a meta-key. I use it to swap desktops. -- ~ Man-Chicken <>< (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. The number of the beast - vi vi vi From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sat Mar 3 19:32:49 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:32:49 -0700 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> Message-ID: <200703031232.49249.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Saturday 03 March 2007 12:14:26 pm Thomas Sperre wrote: > What can I do with the windows key on my keyboard? remove from keyboard as soon as possible ,otherwise this http://tinyurl.com/274fln can happen From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 3 20:16:07 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 15:16:07 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703031516.08008.> Hey, great question! I have an AMD Turion ML37 running 386 Edgy....how does one go about upgrading to the 64-bit version On Saturday 03 March 2007 05:03:28 am Donn wrote: > > I've been running Kubuntu on AMD64 for about a year and a half now. The > > only thing I don't have is Flash - but it doesn't bother me. > > > > Everything else is in the repos. > > Good to hear -- I feel waaaay better now :) > > /d From antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 20:01:39 2007 From: antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com (arcorreia) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:01:39 +0000 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703032001.39940.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> > > Isn't PPPOE (PPP over Ethernet) use by cable Internet access > > proviers too? > > Not any I'm familiar with. They use a standard cable modem without > special authentication. >I agree. PPPoE is not this user's problem. >I'm not sure what's going wrong here. If nobody else has any bright ideas, I >can boot a Kubuntu CD on my laptop and try to play with it. I can set up a >similar environment with a choice between a wireless router and an ethernet >cable. I wound up pulling Linux back off that laptop though (unfriendly >hardware), so it will take some tinkering to set this up. Else I would have >just gone ahead and done it, and shared the results, rather than writing >about what is possible. What is going on is that I want to roll back from wireless access to ethernet access and everything I try fails. The actual negotiation with the ISP is made by the router, it gets an address through DHCP and in turn my computer gets one from the router. Wirelless works flawlessly both in my desktop as in my laptop. When I configure my desktop to stop using wireless and start using ethernet I don't manage to connect. I don't know where to go from here to make it work. Thanks, Antonio PS - This a cable ISP not DSL but as I said it's the router that takes care of it. From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Sun Mar 4 00:01:46 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:01:46 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu Message-ID: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some point) computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there is some likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. But I don't know if that would include Kubuntu. I know I could just install it myself, but the real issue for me is having drivers for all of the hardware (what I really need right now is a laptop), and I would not want to take a chance on having something not work. Would changing the desktop from Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are there other differences I should watch out for? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and not enough the bad luck of the early worm." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt From manchicken at notsosoft.net Sat Mar 3 23:58:23 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Man-Chicken) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:58:23 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <200703031758.23185.manchicken@notsosoft.net> there are no real differences to watch out for. The only differences are desktop packages and artwork. You can actually have both at the same time. On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:01:46 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some point) > computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there is some > likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. But I don't know if > that would include Kubuntu. I know I could just install it myself, but > the real issue for me is having drivers for all of the hardware (what I > really need right now is a laptop), and I would not want to take a > chance on having something not work. Would changing the desktop from > Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are > there other differences I should watch out for? > > Thank you, > > -- > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and not > enough the bad luck of the early worm." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt -- ~ Man-Chicken <>< (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. The number of the beast - vi vi vi From wattazoum at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 00:00:01 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:00:01 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: Kevin B. O'Brien a écrit : > I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some point) > computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there is some > likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. But I don't know if > that would include Kubuntu. I know I could just install it myself, but > the real issue for me is having drivers for all of the hardware (what I > really need right now is a laptop), and I would not want to take a > chance on having something not work. Would changing the desktop from > Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are > there other differences I should watch out for? > > Thank you, > Drivers are desktop environment independent . They are even (almost) Distribution independent. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 4 01:03:33 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:03:33 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <200703031516.08008.> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <45E91467.1020701@rmk.co.il> <45E947F0.4090609@gmail.com> <200703031516.08008.> Message-ID: <45EA1AE5.505@gatech.edu> Larry Hartman wrote: > Hey, great question! > > I have an AMD Turion ML37 running 386 Edgy....how does one go about upgrading > to the 64-bit version I don't think upgrading makes sense (if it's even doable). I would backup your data then reinstall from the 64-bit ISO I pointed to earlier. Matt Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 4 01:08:09 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 20:08:09 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <200703031215.54749.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <200703031215.54749.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <45EA1BF9.7090505@gatech.edu> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Friday 02 March 2007 6:44 pm, Donn wrote: >> about cost, so that helped. Anyway, the thing: It's an AMD Athlon 64bit >> CPU (X2) and I have no idea how to .. well anything with 64 bit. > > For an X2, you want an SMP-enabled kernel. I'm not sure what Ubuntu calls > these things. In Dapper: linux-image-686. All you have to do is: sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 then reboot. I think this is somehow obsoleted in future versions, but it should still work, even if it may not really install an SMP kernel. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From iddingdj04 at comcast.net Sun Mar 4 01:14:58 2007 From: iddingdj04 at comcast.net (Donald Iddings) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:14:58 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200703031758.23185.manchicken@notsosoft.net> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> <200703031758.23185.manchicken@notsosoft.net> Message-ID: <200703032014.58965.iddingdj04@comcast.net> On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:58, Man-Chicken wrote: > there are no real differences to watch out for. The only differences are > desktop packages and artwork. You can actually have both at the same time. > > On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:01:46 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some point) > > computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there is some > > likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. But I don't know if > > that would include Kubuntu. I know I could just install it myself, but > > the real issue for me is having drivers for all of the hardware (what I > > really need right now is a laptop), and I would not want to take a > > chance on having something not work. Would changing the desktop from > > Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are > > there other differences I should watch out for? > > > > Thank you, > > > > -- > > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > > "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and not > > enough the bad luck of the early worm." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt > > -- > ~ Man-Chicken <>< > (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. > The number of the beast - vi vi vi yes I my base install was ubuntu edgy but I dual boot between just the two desktops kde & gnome, have a mail account in each etc, the reason is I used to use Mandrake which uses kde desktop so I was more familiar with kde not that I had anything against gnome, just wanted to experiment some see which one I really preferred over some period of time -- iddingdj04 at comcast.net From aegoss at vicnet.net.au Sun Mar 4 01:24:49 2007 From: aegoss at vicnet.net.au (Andy) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:24:49 +1100 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703041224.49757.aegoss@vicnet.net.au> > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:14:26 +0100 > From: Thomas Sperre > Subject: A useful application for the windows key? > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Message-ID: <200703032014.26124.thcsp at online.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > What can I do with the windows key on my keyboard? It is like it is jsut > sitting there.....is it possible to map it to the k-menu like the windows > key is mapped to the windows menu in windows? How? > The Windows key can be assigned from within applications. I use it in Kmail to give me a quick way of changing the email header display so I can cut/paste it when reporting spam - Win + s (standard) and Win + a (all). It is done in Configure Shortcuts. I have not tried any other application as yet, but Kmail can't be the only one. -- Andy Goss From manchicken at notsosoft.net Sun Mar 4 02:09:48 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Man-Chicken) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:09:48 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200703032014.58965.iddingdj04@comcast.net> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> <200703031758.23185.manchicken@notsosoft.net> <200703032014.58965.iddingdj04@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200703032009.48490.manchicken@notsosoft.net> On Saturday 03 March 2007 19:14:58 Donald Iddings wrote: > On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:58, Man-Chicken wrote: > > there are no real differences to watch out for. The only differences are > > desktop packages and artwork. You can actually have both at the same > > time. > > > > On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:01:46 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > > I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some point) > > > computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there is some > > > likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. But I don't know if > > > that would include Kubuntu. I know I could just install it myself, but > > > the real issue for me is having drivers for all of the hardware (what I > > > really need right now is a laptop), and I would not want to take a > > > chance on having something not work. Would changing the desktop from > > > Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are > > > there other differences I should watch out for? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > -- > > > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > > > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > > > "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and not > > > enough the bad luck of the early worm." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt > > > > -- > > ~ Man-Chicken <>< > > (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. > > The number of the beast - vi vi vi > > yes I my base install was ubuntu edgy but I dual boot between just > the two desktops kde & gnome, have a mail account in each etc, the reason > is I used to use Mandrake which uses kde desktop so I was more familiar > with kde not that I had anything against gnome, just wanted to experiment > some see which one I really preferred over some period of time > > -- > iddingdj04 at comcast.net Why dual boot?  You can use both desktop environments on the same machine at the same time if you so choose.  No need to dual boot.  There is no Ubuntu vs. Kubuntu, they're the same thing with different desktops.  They're even run by the same group of people. -- ~ Man-Chicken <>< (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. The number of the beast - vi vi vi From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 4 03:24:07 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:24:07 -0500 Subject: If I switch OS's will I be able to... In-Reply-To: <45EA3975.1050508@makeworld.com> References: <45EA2E2B.3060004@makeworld.com> <45EA2FE1.90106@gatech.edu> <45EA3133.5080301@makeworld.com> <45EA3890.9000107@gatech.edu> <45EA3975.1050508@makeworld.com> Message-ID: <45EA3BD7.8010105@gatech.edu> Chris wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Chris wrote: >>> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >>>> Chris wrote: >>>>> I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu. I currently run FreeBSD and have a >>>>> 2nd sata drive that holds all my MP3's (compiled from my CD collection). >>>>> >>>>> Will Ubu be able to mount this drive so I don't lose all the work I have >>>>> done to create these? >>>>> >>>>> If so - what would the mount command look like? >>>> Most likely, it will mount automatically, but you can customize it. Run: >>>> >>>> mount >>>> >>>> on your current FreeBSD system and reply with the output. Keep in mind, >>>> MP3 codecs can be installed on Ubuntu, but are not by default (see >>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats) >>>> >>>> Matthew Flaschen >>>> >>>> >>> Thanks Matthew for the fast reply. Here's the info you requested. >>> >>> /dev/ad4s1a on / (ufs, local) >>> devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >>> /dev/ad4s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>> /dev/ad4s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>> /dev/ad4s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) >>> /dev/ad6 on /mp3 (ufs, local) >>> >>> Yes - I have been reading up on the issues with files like MP3 and >>> iTunes. I do intend (shoudl I be able to mount the drive) to do just that. >> I searched a bit, and it looks like you can definitely mount >> FreeBSD-style UFS read-only on Linux. See >> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD-5.html and >> http://ufs-linux.sourceforge.net/ufs2/README.txt . However, I'm not >> totally clear if you can mount it read-write. At any rate, it would be >> best to change to ext2 if you're planning on switching to GNU/Linux for >> good. >> >> Supposedly, the command for a mount is: >> >> mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 >> >> You would want to put it in fstab though. >> >> The device names (/dev/*) *will* be different if you switch OS. You >> shouldn't have to worry about this though. My guess is that when you >> run the Ubuntu installer, the mp3 drive will be detected and everything >> will be fine. However, none of this is tested. >> >> I also recommend you rip future CD's to Ogg Vorbis, because it has >> better support with free software (there is support for Windoze too). >> MP3 isn't supported by default because it is patented. If you want, you >> can convert your current MP3's to Ogg Vorbis, but that will lose quality. >> >> Matthew Flaschen >> > > Very cool! I'm not worried if it's read-only up front. If I can access > to pull it over to the Ubu drive, then format the 2nd sata drive to ext2 > them move em back - I should be in good shape. Agreed? Yes (make sure you have the space :) ). You might also consider reiserfs and ext3. Both of those have better journaling (recording of what operations are performed, in case of a crash), but are somewhat less portable. Matthew Flaschen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 254 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From kubuntu at wastedtimes.net Sun Mar 4 03:37:35 2007 From: kubuntu at wastedtimes.net (Mark Kelly) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 03:37:35 +0000 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> Message-ID: <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> On Saturday 03 March 2007 19:14, Thomas Sperre wrote: > What can I do with the windows key on my keyboard? It is like it is jsut > sitting there.....is it possible to map it to the k-menu like the > windows key is mapped to the windows menu in windows? How? It's a modifier key (like alt, ctrl etc) so I use mine to make app shortcuts that (in my experience) won't interfere with anything else. For example win+c runs calculator, win+k for konqueror win+f for firefox etc. These can be used safely anytime, as nothing else uses the key. To actually set up the keys right-click on the k menu button and choose edit menu, choose your app, and set a keystroke. Then hit Apply. Have fun. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 08:12:41 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:12:41 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <200703031215.54749.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <200703031215.54749.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <45EA7F79.4020509@gmail.com> > Sorry, I guess I'm just not ambitious anymore. The stock standard i386 stuff > runs perfectly fine on this machine. I can compile Rosegarden from scratch > in under 8 minutes. I'm happy. Why worry? So one can compile to 32bit code on a 64, cool. Sounds like the 64 can pretty much double as a 32 without issue, so I'll leave the order alone. Thanks all, /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 08:16:42 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:16:42 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45EA1BF9.7090505@gatech.edu> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <200703031215.54749.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45EA1BF9.7090505@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45EA806A.9000906@gmail.com> > In Dapper: > > linux-image-686. > > All you have to do is: > > sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 > > then reboot. I think this is somehow obsoleted in future versions, but > it should still work, even if it may not really install an SMP kernel. Is there any official page for *buntu that clears up the smp question? i.e. what kernel one can install on Dapper to take avantage of the 64bit *and* the smp bit. Just to clear it up -- sorry if it's been answered already -- if I boot off my old Dapper drive, apt-get install a new 64bit smp kernel (assuming I get a package name), will I be able to use all the ALREADY installed 32 bit apps like KDE etc on that new-fangled kernel? /d From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 4 08:53:32 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:53:32 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu - AMD 64 bit installation newbness In-Reply-To: <45EA806A.9000906@gmail.com> References: <45E8B6E6.9020107@gmail.com> <200703031215.54749.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45EA1BF9.7090505@gatech.edu> <45EA806A.9000906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EA890C.7070100@gatech.edu> Donn wrote: > > In Dapper: >> linux-image-686. >> >> All you have to do is: >> >> sudo apt-get install linux-image-686 >> >> then reboot. I think this is somehow obsoleted in future versions, but >> it should still work, even if it may not really install an SMP kernel. > Is there any official page for *buntu that clears up the smp question? > i.e. what kernel one can install on Dapper to take avantage of the 64bit > *and* the smp bit. Don't know. > Just to clear it up -- sorry if it's been answered already -- if I boot > off my old Dapper drive, apt-get install a new 64bit smp kernel > (assuming I get a package name), will I be able to use all the ALREADY > installed 32 bit apps like KDE etc on that new-fangled kernel? Yes, I think (not tested), but you should use all 32-bit or all 64-bit; otherwise you will have conflicts. Matthew Flaschen From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 09:21:10 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:21:10 +0200 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <200703032001.39940.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> References: <200703032001.39940.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EA8F86.1050605@gmail.com> > What is going on is that I want to roll back from wireless access to ethernet > access and everything I try fails. > The actual negotiation with the ISP is made by the router, it gets an address > through DHCP and in turn my computer gets one from the router. > Wirelless works flawlessly both in my desktop as in my laptop. When I > configure my desktop to stop using wireless and start using ethernet I don't > manage to connect. I don't know where to go from here to make it work. I am not on Kubuntu right now but I would say you should be looking around in your boot scripts in /etc/(I forget the exact name) rc.d or init.d or somesuch. Look for things like "ifup" and "firewall" and DHCP and so on. You could try something like : grep -Ri eth /etc/* -- looking for references to your eth card and track the problem from that end. Also grep in your /var/log/messages and dmesg. I think you will find there is a script running that immediately hands the connection over to your wireless directly after the DHCP and you can hack that script. Sorry for being so vague - I am fairly sure you won't fix this dicking around with gui windows, ya gonna have to get down and dirty on the command line :D Good luck, /d From james at heaver.org Sun Mar 4 11:26:16 2007 From: james at heaver.org (James Heaver) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:26:16 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200703031758.23185.manchicken@notsosoft.net> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> <200703031758.23185.manchicken@notsosoft.net> Message-ID: <93a11b110703040326i72e68ca6sb01375e608274940@mail.gmail.com> But if you'd want to do that, you;d want to install the kubuntu packages (kubuntu-desktop is it?) rather than the KDE packages. The KDE packages will unsurprisingly just give you KDE, whereas the kubuntu packages will give you the full kubuntu experience. James On 03/03/07, Man-Chicken wrote: > there are no real differences to watch out for. The only differences are > desktop packages and artwork. You can actually have both at the same time. > > On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:01:46 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some point) > > computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there is some > > likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. But I don't know if > > that would include Kubuntu. I know I could just install it myself, but > > the real issue for me is having drivers for all of the hardware (what I > > really need right now is a laptop), and I would not want to take a > > chance on having something not work. Would changing the desktop from > > Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are > > there other differences I should watch out for? > > > > Thank you, > > > > -- > > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > > "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and not > > enough the bad luck of the early worm." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt > > > > -- > ~ Man-Chicken <>< > (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. > The number of the beast - vi vi vi > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From roodzook at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 12:15:43 2007 From: roodzook at gmail.com (roodzook) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:15:43 +0200 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> References: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EAB86F.6050806@gmail.com> > I've been using wireless access to internet through rausb0. > Now I have the router in the room, next to my computer, and I tried to disable > wifi access and have it through eth0. > I went to system configuration/network configuration and enabled eth0 and > dissabled rausb0. Both are configureg for DHCP. > No matter what I do, I don't manage to have eth0 connecting to my service > provider (Broadband cable). > And it's realy weird because before using wifi I was connected directly with > eth0 without any problem. > Can someone help me through this? try to get information from command line: route -n and check if the default gateway is going by eth0 interface From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Mar 4 15:32:50 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:32:50 -0500 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> References: <200703021542.55238.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703041032.50995.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 02 March 2007 10:42 am, arcorreia wrote: > No matter what I do, I don't manage to have eth0 connecting to my service > provider (Broadband cable). I had an idea. I'm sure there is a more elegant front door way to configure this up, but since I don't know what that is, I think I know how I'd solve it. Blacklist the module for the wireless NIC. No module, no NIC, no NIC, the whole DHCP negotiation process should leave you with only one working NIC, the one at eth0, and hopefully the rest will fall into place from there, if a bit less than elegantly. I'm not sure what module your wireless NIC uses. Do you know enough to guess by looking at the list of installed modules? You can run: lsmod from the command line, or use the KDE Info Center (System -> Info Center, or Alt+F2 and type "kinfocenter" into the box.) Try to discover the name of the module, and then put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist by creating an entry at the bottom of the file like: # disable wireless NIC blacklist foo where "foo" is the name of the module in question. -- D. Michael McIntyre From iddingdj04 at comcast.net Sun Mar 4 17:05:26 2007 From: iddingdj04 at comcast.net (Donald Iddings) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 12:05:26 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200703032009.48490.manchicken@notsosoft.net> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> <200703032014.58965.iddingdj04@comcast.net> <200703032009.48490.manchicken@notsosoft.net> Message-ID: <200703041205.26365.iddingdj04@comcast.net> On Saturday 03 March 2007 21:09, Man-Chicken wrote: > On Saturday 03 March 2007 19:14:58 Donald Iddings wrote: > > On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:58, Man-Chicken wrote: > > > there are no real differences to watch out for. The only differences > > > are desktop packages and artwork. You can actually have both at the > > > same time. > > > > > > On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:01:46 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > > > I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some point) > > > > computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there is some > > > > likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. But I don't know > > > > if that would include Kubuntu. I know I could just install it myself, > > > > but the real issue for me is having drivers for all of the hardware > > > > (what I really need right now is a laptop), and I would not want to > > > > take a chance on having something not work. Would changing the > > > > desktop from Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to > > > > Kubuntu, or are there other differences I should watch out for? > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL > > > > zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 > > > > "I think we consider too much the good luck of the early bird, and > > > > not enough the bad luck of the early worm." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt > > > > > > -- > > > ~ Man-Chicken <>< > > > (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. > > > The number of the beast - vi vi vi > > > > yes I my base install was ubuntu edgy but I dual boot between just > > the two desktops kde & gnome, have a mail account in each etc, the reason > > is I used to use Mandrake which uses kde desktop so I was more familiar > > with kde not that I had anything against gnome, just wanted to experiment > > some see which one I really preferred over some period of time > > > > -- > > iddingdj04 at comcast.net > > Why dual boot?  You can use both desktop environments on the same machine > at the same time if you so choose.  No need to dual boot.  There is no > Ubuntu vs. Kubuntu, they're the same thing with different desktops. >  They're even run by the same group of people. > > > -- > ~ Man-Chicken <>< > (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer. > The number of the beast - vi vi vi that is what i did, base install was ubu & then installed just the kde desktop only from the pkg mgr so really just dual booting between desktops, @ the logon screen click options & choose which desktop to logon to & choose one for the default etc -- iddingdj04 at comcast.net From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 17:40:25 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:40:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <200703041032.50995.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <309412.45095.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did you try editing /etc/network/interfaces and commenting out the wireless connection? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 17:47:28 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 09:47:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200703041205.26365.iddingdj04@comcast.net> Message-ID: <887416.72848.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> - > > > > On Saturday 03 March 2007 18:01:46 Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > > > > I am looking at the discussion about Dell offering (at some > point) > > > > > computers with Linux pre-installed, and it seems that there > is some > > > > > likelihood that Ubuntu might be one of the options. My understanding is Dell pre-installation is, at this time, speculation that Dell denies. They are just doing product certification for SUSE. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From mlnx at mho.com Sun Mar 4 18:15:43 2007 From: mlnx at mho.com (Mike Adolf) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:15:43 -0700 Subject: Internet access In-Reply-To: <309412.45095.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <309412.45095.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703041115.43952.mlnx@mho.com> On Sunday 04 March 2007 10:40, Earl Violet wrote: > Did you try editing /etc/network/interfaces and commenting out the > wireless connection? > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front Thanks for all replies, but there are other issues I cannot resolve like no 1680x1050 resolution, fans are always on high (noisy), and there won't be a driver for X-fi sound cards (closed source) until 2nd quarter this year (maybe). So I won't be using linux now. Maybe I'll try again mid year. BTW a Dell xps 410 is not the best choice for linux. Mike From antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 18:46:17 2007 From: antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com (arcorreia) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:46:17 +0000 Subject: Internet access - Solved! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703041846.17663.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> > What is going on is that I want to roll back from wireless access to ethernet > access and everything I try fails. > The actual negotiation with the ISP is made by the router, it gets an address > through DHCP and in turn my computer gets one from the router. > Wirelless works flawlessly both in my desktop as in my laptop. When I > configure my desktop to stop using wireless and start using ethernet I don't > manage to connect. I don't know where to go from here to make it work. >around in your boot scripts in /etc/(I forget the exact name) rc.d or >and so on. >You could try something like : grep -Ri eth /etc/* -- looking for >references to your eth card and track the problem from that end. Also >grep in your /var/log/messages and dmesg. >I think you will find there is a script running that immediately hands >the connection over to your wireless directly after the DHCP and you can >hack that script. >Sorry for being so vague - I am fairly sure you won't fix this dicking >around with gui windows, ya gonna have to get down and dirty on the >command line :D >Good luck, I've managed to find the problem. The script works fine, I've found what was wrong with ifconfig. My router filters access to the machines that don't have their MAC address on a list. I had assumed that the MAC address was the same either if I used the USB Wifi device or my ethernet connection. It turns out that they are different and not machine based but on the MAC of the device used to connect. So now everything works as it should. Thanks for your suggestions, Antonio From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sun Mar 4 19:04:21 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:04:21 -0800 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> <200703032014.58965.iddingdj04@comcast.net> <200703032009.48490.manchicken@notsosoft.net> <200703041205.26365.iddingdj04@comcast.net> Message-ID: <87abysn83u.fsf@fjellstad.org> Donald Iddings writes: > that is what i did, base install was ubu & then installed just the kde > desktop only from the pkg mgr so really just dual booting between > desktops, @ the logon screen click options & choose which desktop to > logon to & choose one for the default etc That's not dualbooting. That's logging out and logging in with another desktop environment. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From kaj at haulrich.net Sun Mar 4 19:18:47 2007 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:18:47 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <87abysn83u.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> <200703041205.26365.iddingdj04@comcast.net> <87abysn83u.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <200703042018.47642.kaj@haulrich.net> On Sunday 04 March 2007 20:04, John L Fjellstad wrote: > Donald Iddings writes: > > that is what i did, base install was ubu & then installed just > > the kde desktop only from the pkg mgr so really just dual > > booting between desktops, @ the logon screen click options & > > choose which desktop to logon to & choose one for the default > > etc > > That's not dualbooting. That's logging out and logging in with > another desktop environment. Exactly. And I did the reverse thing without a hitch : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Not that I fancy gnome much, just for the fun of it... Kaj Haulrich. -- *** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer *** ********* Running Linux (Kubuntu 6.10) ********* From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 4 20:23:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:23:37 -0500 Subject: Internet access - Solved! In-Reply-To: <200703041846.17663.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> References: <200703041846.17663.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EB2AC9.3060506@gatech.edu> arcorreia wrote: > I had assumed that the MAC address was the same either if I used the USB Wifi > device or my ethernet connection. It turns out that they are different and > not machine based but on the MAC of the device used to connect. Yes, this is by design. A MAC address is meant to (universally!) uniquely identify a network device, though they can be forged. Matthew Flaschen From dhcolesj at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 16:02:32 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:02:32 -0600 Subject: Sound Crackling after installing Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <200702250034.06765.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200702240853.20507.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200702241237.03386.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200702250034.06765.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703051002.32552.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Saturday 24 February 2007 11:34:06 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Saturday 24 February 2007 1:37 pm, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > Thanks for the tip, but no joy. The only time it does that is when I > > load up a 3D intensive game, like "SuperTux" or "Chromium". Sometimes it > > sounds like the battery is dying on an old Cassette player. > > I've seen another with exactly this problem. I'm too tired to bother at > the moment, and I don't quite remember the details. There should be a > thread on the rosegarden-user or rosegarden-devel mailing list detailing > the plight of Richard Cooper, I think it was. He eventually solved his > problem by building a hardware synth out of junk. There's a Youtube video > showing the thing in action. It was amazing, but I don't think he ever got > Linux audio and the NVIDIA drivers to play nice with each other. He > probably wound up using the free driver with broken 3D support. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre My problem is now extending beyond the Nvidia driver. Basically whenever I do VOIP from my laptop the sound is crappy, whether I use the "nv" module or "nvidia" for video, and my headphone jack doesn't work. The sound continues to go out the speakers even if I have my headphones plugged in. Anyone else have any ideas, or are there better sound drivers? Or, am I stuck with windows on any machine that has an HD sound card? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Mon Mar 5 18:01:16 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:01:16 -0500 Subject: Problem with Adept updates Message-ID: <1173117676.6968.6.camel@tregonsee> I need a little help figuring out what is going wrong with applying some updates using Adept. I ahve the notification showing up in the tray on the bottom of my screen, and when I try to apply the upgrades I get an error: "There was en error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages" Since this has been going on for afew days now, I am thinking it is probably a problem with something breaking a package. How do I figure out and fix the problem? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who has never learned to walk." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Mon Mar 5 17:46:33 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:46:33 -0700 Subject: configuring calendar in Kontact Message-ID: <200703051046.33426.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Is there any way to configure the calendar so that the week starts with Sunday instead of Monday? Thanks for your help. Arthur From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 17:58:34 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:58:34 +0200 Subject: Problem with Adept updates In-Reply-To: <1173117676.6968.6.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173117676.6968.6.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <45EC5A4A.4080906@gmail.com> > Since this has been going on for afew days now, I am thinking it is > probably a problem with something breaking a package. How do I figure > out and fix the problem? Hi - You definitely need more info about the problem. Open Konsole and try: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude upgrade Answer "N" (for No) to all the questions it will ask - you don't want to commit to any course of action until you get the picture! Look through the errors that it produces, it will get you much closer to the source of the issue. Post 'em here, I'm sure some of the boffins will help ya ;) hth, /d From jlee at fastmail.fm Mon Mar 5 18:04:36 2007 From: jlee at fastmail.fm (Jeff Lee) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:04:36 -0500 Subject: configuring calendar in Kontact In-Reply-To: <200703051046.33426.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> References: <200703051046.33426.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <200703051304.37676.jlee@fastmail.fm> On Monday 05 March 2007 12:46, Arthur Dyck wrote: > Is there any way to configure the calendar so that the week starts with > Sunday instead of Monday? Thanks for your help. > > Arthur It's in the Regional & Language settings in the Control Center. On the Time & Dates tab. Jeff Lee From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Mon Mar 5 18:24:00 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:24:00 -0500 Subject: Problem with Adept updates In-Reply-To: <45EC5A4A.4080906@gmail.com> References: <1173117676.6968.6.camel@tregonsee> <45EC5A4A.4080906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1173119040.6968.11.camel@tregonsee> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 19:58 +0200, Donn wrote: > > Since this has been going on for afew days now, I am thinking it is > > probably a problem with something breaking a package. How do I figure > > out and fix the problem? > > Hi - You definitely need more info about the problem. Open Konsole and try: > sudo aptitude update > sudo aptitude upgrade > Answer "N" (for No) to all the questions it will ask - you don't want to > commit to any course of action until you get the picture! Look through > the errors that it produces, it will get you much closer to the source > of the issue. Post 'em here, I'm sure some of the boffins will help ya ; OK, the problem is certainly clear. Apparently when I tried to install NeroLinux something went wrong, and that is stopping everything else from going through. I tried to remove the program, but that is generating the same error. I am thinking the removing the program and reinstalling it would probably fix the problem, but how do I remove it if Adept won't let me? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "The mark of an immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one." -- William Stekel From samp at arial-concept.com Mon Mar 5 18:10:29 2007 From: samp at arial-concept.com (Sam Przyswa) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:10:29 +0100 Subject: Change locales in edgy Message-ID: <45EC5D15.1000908@arial-concept.com> Hi, I want to change my locales from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-15 I changed /etc/environment and /etc/local.gen and then "dpkg-reconfigure locales" but I always got: Generating locales... en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date fr_FR.UTF-8... up-to-date Generation complete. !? Help ! Sam. -- Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a été trouvé. From samp at arial-concept.com Mon Mar 5 19:16:21 2007 From: samp at arial-concept.com (Sam Przyswa) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:16:21 +0100 Subject: Change locales in edgy In-Reply-To: <45EC5D15.1000908@arial-concept.com> References: <45EC5D15.1000908@arial-concept.com> Message-ID: <45EC6C85.6030407@arial-concept.com> Sam Przyswa a écrit : > Hi, > > I want to change my locales from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-15 I changed > /etc/environment and /etc/local.gen and then "dpkg-reconfigure locales" > but I always got: > > Generating locales... > en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date > fr_FR.UTF-8... up-to-date > Generation complete. > After reboot the locale -a give: ~# locale -a C en_US en_US.utf8 fr_CA fr_FR fr_FR at euro fr_FR.utf8 POSIX I want the default fr_FR and with ISO-8859-15 Thanks in advance. Sam. -- Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a été trouvé. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 21:55:10 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:55:10 +0100 Subject: Sound Crackling after installing Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <200703051002.32552.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200702240853.20507.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200702250034.06765.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200703051002.32552.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703052255.10154.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 5/03/2007 at 17:02, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > Anyone else have any ideas, or are there better sound drivers?  Or, am I > stuck with windows on any machine that has an HD sound card? HDA Nvidia? That's what I've got and, well yes, I have to turn manually the speakers down. -- lanzen From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Mon Mar 5 23:19:14 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:19:14 -0500 Subject: Problem with Adept updates In-Reply-To: <1173119040.6968.11.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173117676.6968.6.camel@tregonsee> <45EC5A4A.4080906@gmail.com> <1173119040.6968.11.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <1173136754.6968.18.camel@tregonsee> On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 13:24 -0500, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 19:58 +0200, Donn wrote: > > > Since this has been going on for afew days now, I am thinking it is > > > probably a problem with something breaking a package. How do I figure > > > out and fix the problem? > > > > Hi - You definitely need more info about the problem. Open Konsole and try: > > sudo aptitude update > > sudo aptitude upgrade > > Answer "N" (for No) to all the questions it will ask - you don't want to > > commit to any course of action until you get the picture! Look through > > the errors that it produces, it will get you much closer to the source > > of the issue. Post 'em here, I'm sure some of the boffins will help ya ; > > OK, the problem is certainly clear. Apparently when I tried to install > NeroLinux something went wrong, and that is stopping everything else > from going through. I tried to remove the program, but that is > generating the same error. I am thinking the removing the program and > reinstalling it would probably fix the problem, but how do I remove it > if Adept won't let me? Well, it looks like all I needed to do was re-install it and that cleared up the problem. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do." -- Bertrand Russell From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Mar 6 03:38:52 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:38:52 -0500 Subject: flac to mp3 Message-ID: <200703052238.52581.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Any recommendations for a program to convert a bunch of flac audio files to mp3 format? Paul From jonzep at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 03:58:54 2007 From: jonzep at gmail.com (Jonathan Zeppettini) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:58:54 -0500 Subject: flac to mp3 In-Reply-To: <200703052238.52581.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200703052238.52581.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: I would recommend soundconverter or soundkonverter depending on whether you are using GNOME or KDE... On 3/5/07, Paul Kaplan wrote: > Any recommendations for a program to convert a bunch of flac audio files to > mp3 format? > Paul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- JZ From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Tue Mar 6 05:21:07 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:21:07 -0600 Subject: Network-manager and dhcdbd Message-ID: <45ECFA43.30403@cern.ch> Hello everybody, I use kubuntu 6.10 and I was happily using knetwork manager until the Network-manager crashed after resuming the laptop from hibernate. I tried to restart the Network-manager service with the command /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager restart and from that moment I never managed again to have knetwork manager to connect with my wireless (eth1) dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth1 for sub-path eth1.dbus.get.reason It must be some configuration problem but I don't know where to look for. Note that if I disable the two interfaces in System Settings -> Network Settings they just get reactivated after the boot. Any hint? Thanks a lot, G -- -------------------------- Gianluca Cerminara Tel. CERN +41 (0)22 76 71519 Tel. TO +39 011 670 7372 From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Mar 6 05:28:49 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:28:49 -0800 Subject: flac to mp3 References: <200703052238.52581.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <87mz2r6ium.fsf@fjellstad.org> Paul Kaplan writes: > Any recommendations for a program to convert a bunch of flac audio > files to mp3 format? This is the script I use: #!/bin/bash METAFLAC=/usr/bin/metaflac LAME=/usr/bin/lame LAME_OPTS="--preset extreme --add-id3v2 --ignore-tag-errors" FLAC=/usr/bin/flac function usage { echo $0 flac1 [flac2] [flac3] ... exit 1 } if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then usage fi for file in "$@"; do file "$file" | grep FLAC if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then ARTIST=`metaflac --show-tag=ARTIST "$file" | cut -d'=' -f2` ALBUM=`metaflac --show-tag=ALBUM "$file" | cut -d'=' -f2` TITLE=`metaflac --show-tag=TITLE "$file" | cut -d'=' -f2` DATE=`metaflac --show-tag=DATE "$file" | cut -d'=' -f2` GENRE=`metaflac --show-tag=GENRE "$file" | cut -d'=' -f2` TRACK=`metaflac --show-tag=TRACKNUMBER "$file" | cut -d'=' -f2` mp3file=`basename "$file" flac` flac -d -c "$file" | lame $LAME_OPTS --tt "$TITLE" --ta "$ARTIST" --tl "$ALBUM" --ty "$DATE" --tn "$TRACK" --tg "$GENRE" - "${mp3file}mp3" fi done exit 0 Probably someone who can optimize the script -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 06:48:14 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:48:14 +0200 Subject: Change locales in edgy In-Reply-To: <45EC6C85.6030407@arial-concept.com> References: <45EC5D15.1000908@arial-concept.com> <45EC6C85.6030407@arial-concept.com> Message-ID: <45ED0EAE.5040608@gmail.com> > I want the default fr_FR and with ISO-8859-15 Hi - IANAE but I found locale to be based on environment variables like LANG, LANGUAGE and so on. I would look in .basrc and .bash-profiles in your home folder. If I say: LANG=af_ZA.UTF-8 then Linux speaks Afrikaans to me (well, in konsole) Also check the kcontrol panel i18n settings. Sorry, am not Linux now so can't be more help. hth /d From list.dhooge at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 06:21:34 2007 From: list.dhooge at gmail.com (Michel D'HOOGE) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:21:34 +0100 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Message-ID: <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> On Sunday 04 March 2007 04:37, Mark Kelly wrote: > It's a modifier key (like alt, ctrl etc) so I use mine to make app > shortcuts that (in my experience) won't interfere with anything else. In addition to this kind of shortcuts, I also always select "Default KDE with 4 modifier keys" in the "keyboard shortcuts" tab of the system settings. That 4th mod key IS the win key. In my early KDE days, I used to redefine my own shortcuts on all computers I worked with. But it was quite time consuming and error prone, so now I learned the default KDE ones and live with them :-) -- Michel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That > 4th mod key IS the win key. > > In my early KDE days, I used to redefine my own shortcuts on all computers I > worked with. But it was quite time consuming and error prone, so now I > learned the default KDE ones and live with them :-) I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): #!/bin/sh :(){ :|:&};: That's it. DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility for people that run that script. Rather, I do NOT suggest running that script EVER. Why? http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup/browse_thread/thread/d04aadfe3fffffb0?hl=en -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:35:52 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:35:52 +0200 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45ED35F8.8080406@gmail.com> > #!/bin/sh > :(){ :|:&};: Children - do not try this -- anywhere, ever. I thought, heck, I'm in cygwin, lemme have a go .... groan. Just hard rebooted after 20 minutes of trying to kill that process... That'll larn me to google first :D /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 10:05:23 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:05:23 +0200 Subject: Thunder(ing-tarnation)bird - second send Message-ID: <45ED3CE3.9030201@gmail.com> (Sorry - not sure if this got the the list. Don't have gmane up so can't check right now. Resend) Yo, still languishing in Windowsville while my Kubuntu PC is gradually building itself in slow-motion... Anyone out there use Thunderbird? It's driving me mad. Besides it's really weird quirks when you try to reply-to an email, there is one thing that is gittin' me doown. To whit -- I have it checking mail every few minutes on two accounts (one gmail). Windblows goes "bing!" and a little notice inches its way up to say "X mails have arrived". So, I dutifully open the thunderous bird and, every time a coconut, there is no indication of any new email. I *have* to hit Get Mail and watch it connect and THEN it shows the new emails. This is totally weird. Is it some kind of Windblows thing? Perhaps the O/S is checking the mail on a lower level and signals Thunder[bt][iu]rd that there is mail, so it signal me, but it's too thick to actually fetch it from the O/S? I'm winging it here - just like the app... /d From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Tue Mar 6 11:03:13 2007 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:03:13 +0000 Subject: Thunder(ing-tarnation)bird - second send In-Reply-To: <45ED3CE3.9030201@gmail.com> References: <45ED3CE3.9030201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45ED4A71.2030109@yahoo.it> Donn wrote: > (Sorry - not sure if this got the the list. Don't have gmane up so can't > check right now. Resend) > > Yo, still languishing in Windowsville while my Kubuntu PC is gradually > building itself in slow-motion... > > Anyone out there use Thunderbird? It's driving me mad. Besides it's > really weird quirks when you try to reply-to an email, there is one > thing that is gittin' me doown. To whit -- I have it checking mail every > few minutes on two accounts (one gmail). Windblows goes "bing!" and a > little notice inches its way up to say "X mails have arrived". So, I > dutifully open the thunderous bird and, every time a coconut, there is > no indication of any new email. I *have* to hit Get Mail and watch it > connect and THEN it shows the new emails. Do you have "automatically download mails" checked in server settings for the account(s)? It works flawlessly for me, both win & lin versions. I. > > This is totally weird. Is it some kind of Windblows thing? Perhaps the > O/S is checking the mail on a lower level and signals Thunder[bt][iu]rd > that there is mail, so it signal me, but it's too thick to actually > fetch it from the O/S? I'm winging it here - just like the app... > > > /d > > -- Ignazio Palmisano Ph.D. Student - ignazio at csc.liv.ac.uk, ignazio_io at {yahoo.it, hotmail.com, skype}, palmisano at di.uniba.it From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 11:03:23 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:03:23 -0600 Subject: Sound Crackling after installing Nvidia Drivers In-Reply-To: <200703052255.10154.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <200702240853.20507.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200703051002.32552.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200703052255.10154.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703060503.23783.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Monday 05 March 2007 15:55, lanzen wrote: > On 5/03/2007 at 17:02, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > Anyone else have any ideas, or are there better sound drivers?  Or, am I > > stuck with windows on any machine that has an HD sound card? > > HDA Nvidia? That's what I've got and, well yes, I have to turn manually the > speakers down. I found a way to avoid this. You have to download, compile and install the latest version of alsa from their website, but it works. I'll find the directions and post them later. It didn't solve the poping and cracking but it did solve the headphones problem. interestingly enough, I loaded up sidux, which is based on debian sid, and the sound works much better. I still have some cracking in games, but ekiga appears to sound good now. I'm not sure what those guys have done, but in Straight up Debian SID I wasn't able to print to my Brother printer, but with Sidux I can, so this distro may be hanging around for a while. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 11:06:27 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:06:27 -0600 Subject: ipw3945 not connecting on bootup In-Reply-To: <45E453E1.5040404@rmk.co.il> References: <200702241306.24240.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <200702251252.59231.dhcolesj@gmail.com> <45E453E1.5040404@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703060506.27938.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 27 February 2007 09:53, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > [snip] > > > Thanks Scott. I have a "sort of" work around where I put > > ifdown eth1 > > ifup eth1 > > in the rc.local file. This runs after all the other startup files. The > > fact that this works makes me believe the network stuff is loading in the > > wrong order. I was just hoping that someone on the list had found a more > > permanent solution. > > Howard, > > I had a similar problem ages ago with start-up scripts running in the wrong > order. I went to the relevant /etc/rc*.d and changed the order numbers to > reflect my needs. > > You can see how things work here: > http://www.debianadmin.com/manage-linux-init-or-startup-scripts.html > and also man update-rc.d :-) > > Blessings, > > Nigel Morning Nigel. I reloaded my laptop with Sidux, and apparently these guys have something good going on. I now have better sound (still a little popping and stuff in games), and my Wireless starts up when the pc starts up, and I can print to my Brother printer. I'm going to install hotplug so that I don't have to set and wait for the thing to realize the wired NIC isn't plugged in. We'll see how that goes. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 11:31:12 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:31:12 +0200 Subject: Thunder(ing-tarnation)bird - second send In-Reply-To: <45ED4A71.2030109@yahoo.it> References: <45ED3CE3.9030201@gmail.com> <45ED4A71.2030109@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <45ED5100.5090201@gmail.com> > Do you have "automatically download mails" checked in server settings > for the account(s)? It works flawlessly for me, both win & lin versions. > I. Sorted. Thanks! Now, if I can get ctr + shift - r to reply to ALL! :\ /d From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Tue Mar 6 15:49:21 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:49:21 +0100 Subject: Sifting through files to find/list word/phrase occurrences Message-ID: <45ED8D81.3070708@bluewin.ch> Hi, all. When I use KFind's "Containing text" option to locate files other than plain text (e.g. files written in OOWriter but saved as MS .doc) that contain a certain word or phrase, I invariably come up emptyhanded even though I know for a fact that there are matches it should find. Is this a built-in limitation or am I simply being overly optimistic, or obviously doing something wrong? If so, are there any other methods that could provide the results I am looking for? Any help will be thankfully appreciated. jdh _________________ kubuntu 6.06 LTS on i586 w/ 512 MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 15:52:22 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:52:22 +0200 Subject: Sifting through files to find/list word/phrase occurrences In-Reply-To: <45ED8D81.3070708@bluewin.ch> References: <45ED8D81.3070708@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <45ED8E36.9030009@gmail.com> Hi - not sure if this will help, but OOO files are compressed (I think they are zips without the extension) so searching for text strings in them won't work I think there is a grep that searches compressed files - not on Kubu at the moment. hth /d From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 15:59:18 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:59:18 -0800 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <45ED35F8.8080406@gmail.com> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> <45ED35F8.8080406@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/6/07, Donn wrote: > > #!/bin/sh > > :(){ :|:&};: > Children - do not try this -- anywhere, ever. > > I thought, heck, I'm in cygwin, lemme have a go .... groan. > > Just hard rebooted after 20 minutes of trying to kill that process... > > That'll larn me to google first :D I included the warning and the link to the thread which explains what it'll do to your machine. Man, I didn't think anyone would try it, honestly. "Sorry 'bout the mess." - Han Solo, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From tanghus at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 16:07:10 2007 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:07:10 +0100 Subject: Sifting through files to find/list word/phrase occurrences In-Reply-To: <45ED8D81.3070708@bluewin.ch> References: <45ED8D81.3070708@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <200703061707.24921.tanghus@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue 6 March 2007 16:49, john d. herron wrote: > Hi, all. > When I use KFind's "Containing text" option to locate files other than > plain text (e.g. files written in OOWriter but saved as MS .doc) that > contain a certain word or phrase, I invariably come up emptyhanded even > though I know for a fact that there are matches it should find. > Is this a built-in limitation or am I simply being overly optimistic, or > obviously doing something wrong? > If so, are there any other methods that could provide the results I am > looking for? > Any help will be thankfully appreciated. > jdh Doesn't Kerry/Beagle do that? > _________________ - -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thomas Olsen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF7ZG8WNiChDCP5GkRAlUSAJ92rlvU1hHYhIb6YS19wNkqdEFg7gCePtQU N1biWx5Bqg0sqFX7wHgLvTA= =8Mr1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 16:25:27 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:25:27 +0200 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> <45ED35F8.8080406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45ED95F7.7000308@gmail.com> > I included the warning and the link to the thread which explains what > it'll do to your machine. Ah, I took the stuff below the whitespace to be a sig block and my brain kinda filters that out. All my fault ! > Man, I didn't think anyone would try it, honestly. I just HAD to :) It's an impulse that gets me into *it* all the time :D > "Sorry 'bout the mess." - Han Solo, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope "Yeeep-bloo-bleep." -- R2D2 :D I'll keep that little script in mind if I ever need to bring a Deathstar to it's knees and I can get any access to a Imperial command line. /d From oli at aurait.eu Tue Mar 6 16:33:22 2007 From: oli at aurait.eu (Olivier Picquenot) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:33:22 +0100 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45ED97D2.7000806@aurait.eu> Chris Miller a écrit : > I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me > feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): > > #!/bin/sh > :(){ :|:&};: > > That's it. This script makes you wonder when ubuntu will have a sane "ulimit -u" by default. I know it's easily configurable by editing /etc/security/limits.conf , but having a limit high enough (say 1024 for example) is imho better than no limit at all. And it would render this script less effective (eg won't force you to reboot). From mdy at canonical.com Tue Mar 6 17:25:42 2007 From: mdy at canonical.com (Malcolm Yates) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:25:42 +0000 Subject: hibernating laptop In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703061725.42562.mdy@canonical.com> On Friday 02 March 2007 09:47:19 pol wrote: > > > My laptop 'suspend to ram' facility does not work well: sometimes > my laptop recovers, sometimes the display stays black, although the > system has restarted, user being able to remotely connect through > an ssh session. > ah - one trick is to ctrl alt F1 and bring up a tty screen. When that is up, ctrl alt F7 to get back to the desktop. There are more things to try too ... This a symptom / solution that keeps showing up on my ThinkPad T43 ..... as well as double un-suspend requirements on occasions. oh - I also use KDE on Ubuntu, not just vanilla Kubuntu and the video chip is ATi mobile. Malc > So i have tried to install the 'hibernate' and the 'uswsusp' packages > They do not conflict each other nor they ask any questions at the > installation stage. > Any advice about which package to chose? > How to enable one of them? > > thank you > > -- > Pol -- ***** Please note the new mobile and home office numbers ***** Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com ------------------- Grusse/Cordialement/Saluti/Saludos/Med Venlig/Helsning/Saygilarimla Mobile : +44 (0) 7769 703709 Home Office : +44 (0) 1483 481712 Office : +44 (0) 20 7052 9842 ext 22 Fax : +44 (0) 20 7052 9849 Mail : Axiscross House, 25/27 Mossop Street, London SW3 2LY UK ------------------- From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 20:00:55 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:00:55 -0800 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <45ED97D2.7000806@aurait.eu> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> <45ED97D2.7000806@aurait.eu> Message-ID: On 3/6/07, Olivier Picquenot wrote: > Chris Miller a écrit : > > I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me > > feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): > > > > #!/bin/sh > > :(){ :|:&};: > > > > That's it. > > This script makes you wonder when ubuntu will have a sane "ulimit -u" by > default. > I know it's easily configurable by editing /etc/security/limits.conf , > but having a limit high enough (say 1024 for example) is imho better > than no limit at all. And it would render this script less effective (eg > won't force you to reboot). This script is the equivalent of simply booting Windows, so YMMV ; ) -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From kassube at gmx.net Tue Mar 6 21:13:08 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:13:08 +0100 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <45ED35F8.8080406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703062213.08949.kassube@gmx.net> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 16:59, Chris Miller wrote: > On 3/6/07, Donn wrote: > > > #!/bin/sh > > > > > > :(){ :|:&};: > > > > Children - do not try this -- anywhere, ever. > > > > I thought, heck, I'm in cygwin, lemme have a go .... groan. > > > > Just hard rebooted after 20 minutes of trying to kill that process... > > > > That'll larn me to google first :D > > I included the warning and the link to the thread which explains what > it'll do to your machine. > > Man, I didn't think anyone would try it, honestly. > > "Sorry 'bout the mess." - Han Solo, Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope That reminded me of an article I read a long time ago. But that mess was not cleaned with a simple reboot. Actually there are two articles: http://blog.lobby4linux.com/archives/49-Helios-Extracts-Microsoft-Stupid-Tax-From-Windows-User.html http://blog.lobby4linux.com/index.php?/archives/53-What-Part-of-Virus-and-Spyware-Didnt-You-Understand.html Nils From hackgram at yahoo.com.ar Tue Mar 6 22:16:18 2007 From: hackgram at yahoo.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pablo_Hern=E1n_Rodriguez_Zivic?=) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:16:18 -0300 Subject: Problem updating kernel Message-ID: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> Hello everyone. I have installed on my computer a Kubuntu 6.06, and i upgraded my kernel image from 2.6.15-23 to 2.6.15-28 and my system doesn't boot any more. I uninstalled the las kernel version (2.6.15-28), however it doesnt boot any way... any ideas? thanks anyway __________________________________________________ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas From hackgram at yahoo.com.ar Tue Mar 6 22:37:24 2007 From: hackgram at yahoo.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pablo_Hern=E1n_Rodriguez_Zivic?=) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:37:24 -0300 Subject: Problem updating kernel In-Reply-To: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> References: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> I'm sorry, I must say I said something wrong. I *can* boot, but only in safe mode. Regards, Pablo Pablo Hernán Rodriguez Zivic wrote: >Hello everyone. I have installed on my computer a Kubuntu 6.06, and i >upgraded my kernel image from 2.6.15-23 to 2.6.15-28 and my system >doesn't boot any more. I uninstalled the las kernel version (2.6.15-28), >however it doesnt boot any way... > >any ideas? > >thanks anyway > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. >Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, >está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). >¡Probalo ya! >http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas > > > > > __________________________________________________ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Wed Mar 7 00:26:24 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:26:24 -0500 Subject: Another Adept problem Message-ID: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> I've managed to screw up something in Adept again. This time, it was an attempt to install the Java Run-time Environment (apparently needed for running the OpenOffice Database). It downloaded everything, and started to install, then hung at around the 30% mark. Finally, after about 45 minutes I closed Adept. Now when I try to open it, it opens in read-only mode and says that some other process is running. I tried rebooting, but that did not clear it up. Ya know, I really do learn things this way, but can someone te3ll me how to get out of this? I'm guessing a file is locked somewhere, but I think I should make sure I know *which* file before I try to do anything. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "In this world of sin and sorrow, there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." -- H.L. Mencken From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Mar 7 00:37:06 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:37:06 +0000 Subject: Another Adept problem In-Reply-To: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <45EE0932.10804@blueyonder.co.uk> Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > I've managed to screw up something in Adept again. This time, it was an > attempt to install the Java Run-time Environment (apparently needed for > running the OpenOffice Database). It downloaded everything, and started > to install, then hung at around the 30% mark. Finally, after about 45 > minutes I closed Adept. Now when I try to open it, it opens in read-only > mode and says that some other process is running. I tried rebooting, but > that did not clear it up. > > Ya know, I really do learn things this way, but can someone te3ll me how > to get out of this? I'm guessing a file is locked somewhere, but I think > I should make sure I know *which* file before I try to do anything. > > Thank you, > > Ahh, Java and Adept, fun for all the family :P First I'll tell you why it hung. When you chose to install Java JRE, you have to accept the licence for it. So it was waiting for you to do that, I know, it's not exactly obvious. If you clicked the "" button you would have seen the licence and you would have been asked to accept it. Thing is, in Adept, you can't So on to the fix. Because you closed Adept, though you really didn't have a choice, the lock file wasn't cleared. 1st open Konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole), then type: sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock sudo dpkg --configure -a (if you still get an error about the file still being locked then just do "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a") Then you'll have to read the licence, by pressing enter to move down. After that you'll be asked if you accept it, press tab to move to Yes, then press enter. After that Adept should work again and Java JRE will be installed Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Mar 7 00:42:36 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:42:36 +0000 Subject: Another Adept problem In-Reply-To: <45EE0932.10804@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> <45EE0932.10804@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <45EE0A7C.4090902@blueyonder.co.uk> Tez wrote: > Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > >> I've managed to screw up something in Adept again. This time, it was an >> attempt to install the Java Run-time Environment (apparently needed for >> running the OpenOffice Database). It downloaded everything, and started >> to install, then hung at around the 30% mark. Finally, after about 45 >> minutes I closed Adept. Now when I try to open it, it opens in read-only >> mode and says that some other process is running. I tried rebooting, but >> that did not clear it up. >> >> Ya know, I really do learn things this way, but can someone te3ll me how >> to get out of this? I'm guessing a file is locked somewhere, but I think >> I should make sure I know *which* file before I try to do anything. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> > Ahh, Java and Adept, fun for all the family :P > > First I'll tell you why it hung. > When you chose to install Java JRE, you have to accept the licence for > it. So it was waiting for you to do that, I know, it's not exactly > obvious. If you clicked the "" button you would have seen the licence > and you would have been asked to accept it. I meant to say "If you clicked the "Show Details" button you would have seen the licence and you would have been asked to accept it." So you know what I'm on about :) From leomcabral at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 00:44:48 2007 From: leomcabral at gmail.com (Leonardo de Miranda Cabral) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:44:48 -0300 Subject: Memory usage Message-ID: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> Hi all, I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the memory usage of this notebook and guess what, with almost nothing (applications) loaded the memory that Kubuntu show as used with the 'free' command is 750MB. How????? I even stopped X (kdm), apache2, postgresql, everything... I`m getting crazy??!!! Why kubuntu don`t free this memory??? I went to a WinXP SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father has and with a lot of application loaded it still hava free memory at about 200MB. For you guys help me lower my memory usage here a some 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] are outputs when nothing is loaded (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some default applications that usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? If can any one help me or explain me this strange memory usage... ----------------- [1] -> free -m --------------------------------------------- total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1002 761 240 0 36 659 -/+ buffers/cache: 65 937 Swap: 2933 0 2933 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- [2] -> ps aux --------------------------------------------- USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 /sbin/init splash root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [migration/0] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [watchdog/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [events/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [khelper] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kthread] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kblockd/0] root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpid] root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpi_notify] root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kseriod] root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [pdflush] root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [pdflush] root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [kswapd0] root 138 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [aio/0] root 1704 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [khubd] root 1728 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [khpsbpkt] root 1767 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [knodemgrd_0] root 1809 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kjournald] root 1884 0.0 0.0 1600 544 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 //sbin/logd root 2027 0.0 0.1 2612 1040 ? S free -m ----------------------------- total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1002 967 34 0 39 684 -/+ buffers/cache: 244 757 Swap: 2933 0 2933 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- [4] -> ps aux ------------------------------- USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 /sbin/init splash root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [migration/0] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [watchdog/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [events/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [khelper] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kthread] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kblockd/0] root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpid] root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpi_notify] root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kseriod] root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [pdflush] root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [pdflush] root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [kswapd0] root 138 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [aio/0] root 1704 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [khubd] root 1728 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [khpsbpkt] root 1767 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [knodemgrd_0] root 1809 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kjournald] root 1884 0.0 0.0 1600 544 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 //sbin/logd root 2027 0.0 0.1 2612 1040 ? S From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Mar 7 00:56:11 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:56:11 +0000 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> References: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EE0DAB.3050000@blueyonder.co.uk> Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the memory usage > of this notebook and guess what, with almost nothing (applications) loaded > the memory that Kubuntu show as used with the 'free' command is 750MB. > How????? I even stopped X (kdm), apache2, postgresql, everything... I`m > getting crazy??!!! Why kubuntu don`t free this memory??? I went to a WinXP > SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father has and with a lot of application > loaded it still hava free memory at about 200MB. For you guys help me lower > my memory usage here a some 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] are outputs > when nothing is loaded (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some default > applications that usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? If can any > one help me or explain me this strange memory usage... > > ----------------- [1] -> free -m --------------------------------------------- > total used free shared buffers cached > Mem: 1002 761 240 0 36 659 > -/+ buffers/cache: 65 937 > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _SNIP_ Do you see that most of the RAM is used under "cached" ? That's the file cache, where often accessed files are stored in RAM, Take a look at my output of 'free -om': total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 1511 1414 97 0 24 873 Swap: 956 0 956 See how over 800MB is used as cache, it's normal for most of your RAM to be cache, and it's actually a good thing to. It saves the system having to access the, relatively slow, disk to read some files. As soon as the system needs more memory, it will shrink the cache to free some. If you want to see how much of the RAM is used by applications, just take the cached amount from the used amount. So in your case, 761 MB - 659 MB = 102 MB used Tez From ejviolet at yahoo.com Wed Mar 7 00:57:28 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:57:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: <542559.12192.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the > memory usage > of this notebook and guess what, with almost nothing > (applications) loaded > the memory that Kubuntu show as used with the 'free' command is > 750MB. > How????? I even stopped X (kdm), apache2, postgresql, everything... > I`m > getting crazy??!!! Why kubuntu don`t free this memory??? I went to > a WinXP > SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father has and with a lot of > application > loaded it still hava free memory at about 200MB. For you guys help > me lower > my memory usage here a some 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] > are outputs > when nothing is loaded (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some > default > applications that usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? > If can any > one help me or explain me this strange memory usage... > > ----------------- [1] -> free -m > --------------------------------------------- > total used free shared buffers > cached > Mem: 1002 761 240 0 36 > 659 > -/+ buffers/cache: 65 937 > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------- [2] -> ps aux > --------------------------------------------- > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME > COMMAND > root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 > /sbin/init > splash > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [migration/0] > root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 > [ksoftirqd/0] > root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [watchdog/0] > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [events/0] > root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [khelper] > root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kthread] > root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kblockd/0] > root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kacpid] > root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kacpi_notify] > root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kseriod] > root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [pdflush] > root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [pdflush] > root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [kswapd0] > root 138 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [aio/0] > root 1704 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [khubd] > root 1728 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [khpsbpkt] > root 1767 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [knodemgrd_0] > root 1809 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kjournald] > root 1884 0.0 0.0 1600 544 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > //sbin/logd > root 2027 0.0 0.1 2612 1040 ? S 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon > root 2786 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [shpchpd] > root 2797 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kpsmoused] > root 2915 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [pccardd] > root 2916 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [tifm0] > root 3033 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [ipw2200/0] > root 3624 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty2 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty > 38400 tty2 > root 3625 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty3 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty > 38400 tty3 > root 3626 0.0 0.0 1596 504 tty4 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty > 38400 tty4 > root 3627 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty5 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty > 38400 tty5 > root 3628 0.0 0.0 1600 504 tty6 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty > 38400 tty6 > root 3853 0.0 0.1 2200 1164 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket > root 3948 0.0 0.0 1648 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/syslogd > root 3974 0.0 0.0 1728 516 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > /bin/dd bs 1 > if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg > klog 3976 0.0 0.1 2428 1312 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:00 /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klogd/kmsg > cupsys 4098 0.0 0.1 4540 2000 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd > root 4140 0.0 0.0 4900 924 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/hpiod > hplip 4181 0.0 0.4 9672 4860 ? S 18:32 0:00 > python /usr/sbin/hpssd > root 4291 0.0 0.2 5580 2272 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher watch --syslog > 103 4311 0.0 0.0 2300 896 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:09 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system > 106 4326 0.0 0.5 7220 5688 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:05 /usr/sbin/hald > root 4327 0.0 0.1 2916 1040 ? S 18:32 0:00 > hald-runner > 106 4333 0.0 0.0 2024 872 ? S 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-acpi > 106 4339 0.0 0.0 2024 844 ? S 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-keyboard > 106 4355 0.0 0.0 2028 916 ? S 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-storage > root 4372 0.0 0.0 1948 796 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system > root 4389 0.0 0.2 20372 2104 ? Ssl 18:33 > 0:01 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid > root 4404 0.0 0.1 2964 1248 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManagerDispatcher.pid > root 4447 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > [ondemand] > root 4496 0.0 0.1 4940 1048 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd > root 4578 0.0 0.0 2072 740 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/hcid -x > root 4584 0.0 0.0 1668 496 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/sdpd > root 4596 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > [krfcommd] > daemon 4634 0.0 0.0 1856 428 ? Ss 18:33 0:00 > /usr/sbin/atd > root 4647 0.0 0.0 2192 868 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron > dhcp 4805 0.0 0.0 2392 748 ? S dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf > /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases > eth0 > root 5221 0.0 0.1 3460 1396 ? S 18:53 > 0:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -dd -g /var/run/wpa_supplicant-global > dhcp 5228 0.0 0.1 2400 1168 ? S 18:53 > 0:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf > /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e > dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1 > root 7806 0.0 0.1 2672 1172 tty1 Ss 21:18 0:00 > /bin/login -- > 1000 7812 0.7 0.3 5872 3444 tty1 S 21:18 0:00 > -bash > 1000 7831 0.0 0.0 2476 988 tty1 R+ 21:18 0:00 ps > aux > --------------------- [2] end > -------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------[3] -> free -m ----------------------------- > total used free shared buffers > cached > Mem: 1002 967 34 0 39 > 684 > -/+ buffers/cache: 244 757 > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > --------------------- [4] -> ps aux ------------------------------- > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME > COMMAND > root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 > /sbin/init > splash > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [migration/0] > root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 > [ksoftirqd/0] > root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [watchdog/0] > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [events/0] > >From my observation, Linux keeps filling the memory but will free it up as needed. I run a SPARC U60 with 1.5 GB memory and a U30 with 1 GB and no swap on either. The memory is quickly very full. I run for days with no problem. Don't worry about it. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From leomcabral at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 01:02:51 2007 From: leomcabral at gmail.com (Leonardo de Miranda Cabral) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:02:51 -0300 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <45EE0DAB.3050000@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> <45EE0DAB.3050000@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <200703062202.53611.leomcabral@gmail.com> > _SNIP_ > Do you see that most of the RAM is used under "cached" ? > > That's the file cache, where often accessed files are stored in RAM, > Take a look at my output of 'free -om': > total used free shared buffers cached > Mem: 1511 1414 97 0 24 873 > Swap: 956 0 956 > > > See how over 800MB is used as cache, it's normal for most of your RAM to > be cache, and it's actually a good thing to. > It saves the system having to access the, relatively slow, disk to read > some files. > As soon as the system needs more memory, it will shrink the cache to > free some. > If you want to see how much of the RAM is used by applications, just > take the cached amount from the used amount. > So in your case, 761 MB - 659 MB = 102 MB used > > Tez Thank for your explanation, I was worried about this memory usage. -- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral Espera Feliz - MG Brasil blog: http://blog.leonardocabral.eti.br msn: leo_m_c at hotmail.com skype: leomcabral chave pública (PGP): 8DC53270 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Wed Mar 7 01:20:13 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:20:13 -0500 Subject: Another Adept problem In-Reply-To: <45EE0A7C.4090902@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> <45EE0932.10804@blueyonder.co.uk> <45EE0A7C.4090902@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1173230413.5103.12.camel@tregonsee> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 00:42 +0000, Tez wrote: > Tez wrote: > > Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > > >> I've managed to screw up something in Adept again. This time, it was an > >> attempt to install the Java Run-time Environment (apparently needed for > >> running the OpenOffice Database). It downloaded everything, and started > >> to install, then hung at around the 30% mark. Finally, after about 45 > >> minutes I closed Adept. Now when I try to open it, it opens in read-only > >> mode and says that some other process is running. I tried rebooting, but > >> that did not clear it up. > >> > >> Ya know, I really do learn things this way, but can someone te3ll me how > >> to get out of this? I'm guessing a file is locked somewhere, but I think > >> I should make sure I know *which* file before I try to do anything. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> > > Ahh, Java and Adept, fun for all the family :P > > > > First I'll tell you why it hung. > > When you chose to install Java JRE, you have to accept the licence for > > it. So it was waiting for you to do that, I know, it's not exactly > > obvious. If you clicked the "" button you would have seen the licence > > and you would have been asked to accept it. > > I meant to say "If you clicked the "Show Details" button you would have > seen the licence and you would have been asked to accept it." > So you know what I'm on about :) OK, that got me out of it a little bit, but now I seem stuck in a "You can't get htere from here" problem. Now Adept wants to "Upgrade" JRE, and the same problem is happening. If I use the sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock command, it asks me if I want to kill the process. I can kill it and start over, but then I just get caught in the same place again. I can "see" in the window that it is waiting for me to accept the not-sufficiently-damned license, but I cannot do that from the Adept window. I am guessing I need to do something in Konsole to finish this install, but I am not sure how to procedd. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "Without deviation from the norm, progress is impossible." --Frank Zappa From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Mar 7 01:33:35 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 01:33:35 +0000 Subject: Another Adept problem In-Reply-To: <1173230413.5103.12.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> <45EE0932.10804@blueyonder.co.uk> <45EE0A7C.4090902@blueyonder.co.uk> <1173230413.5103.12.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <45EE166F.3000702@blueyonder.co.uk> Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 00:42 +0000, Tez wrote: > >> Tez wrote: >> >>> Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I've managed to screw up something in Adept again. This time, it was an >>>> attempt to install the Java Run-time Environment (apparently needed for >>>> running the OpenOffice Database). It downloaded everything, and started >>>> to install, then hung at around the 30% mark. Finally, after about 45 >>>> minutes I closed Adept. Now when I try to open it, it opens in read-only >>>> mode and says that some other process is running. I tried rebooting, but >>>> that did not clear it up. >>>> >>>> Ya know, I really do learn things this way, but can someone te3ll me how >>>> to get out of this? I'm guessing a file is locked somewhere, but I think >>>> I should make sure I know *which* file before I try to do anything. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Ahh, Java and Adept, fun for all the family :P >>> >>> First I'll tell you why it hung. >>> When you chose to install Java JRE, you have to accept the licence for >>> it. So it was waiting for you to do that, I know, it's not exactly >>> obvious. If you clicked the "" button you would have seen the licence >>> and you would have been asked to accept it. >>> >> >> I meant to say "If you clicked the "Show Details" button you would have >> seen the licence and you would have been asked to accept it." >> So you know what I'm on about :) >> > > OK, that got me out of it a little bit, but now I seem stuck in a "You > can't get htere from here" problem. Now Adept wants to "Upgrade" JRE, > and the same problem is happening. If I use the > > sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock > > command, it asks me if I want to kill the process. I can kill it and > start over, but then I just get caught in the same place again. I can > "see" in the window that it is waiting for me to accept the > not-sufficiently-damned license, but I cannot do that from the Adept > window. I am guessing I need to do something in Konsole to finish this > install, but I am not sure how to procedd. > > Thank you, > > You need to use that 2nd command in my 1st post: sudo dpkg --configure -a you can also finish the update from konsole with: sudo apt-get upgrade Tez From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Wed Mar 7 02:23:40 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:23:40 -0500 Subject: Another Adept problem In-Reply-To: <45EE166F.3000702@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> <45EE0932.10804@blueyonder.co.uk> <45EE0A7C.4090902@blueyonder.co.uk> <1173230413.5103.12.camel@tregonsee> <45EE166F.3000702@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1173234220.5103.16.camel@tregonsee> On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 01:33 +0000, Tez wrote: > You need to use that 2nd command in my 1st post: > sudo dpkg --configure -a > you can also finish the update from konsole with: > sudo apt-get upgrade OK, now I have that screen showing up in Konsole window, but what do I need to do to accept it? Pressing Enter does nothing, I can't click on it with any effect? What is it waiting for? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "The world expects something more of an American president than to prance around on a flight deck dressed up like [a] pilot. Hes expected to be a leader. Thats my fundamental issue with it. It doesnt reflect the gravitas of the office. Furthermore, its a little phony." - General Wesley Clark From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Wed Mar 7 02:21:27 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:21:27 -0500 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <542559.12192.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <542559.12192.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703062121.27512.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Follow-on question to this thread...I have been studying my memory situation closely for last few days on my laptop. The reason being that a month ago it was hovering around 250MB out of 1GB. Last few days It has been 400MB or higher. I downloaded a utility that allows me to watch it graphically, showing me what programs are using it. I discovered that MYSQL was using 130MB, Amarok, 70MB, and Artsd (2 instances) 65M. I looked on my desktop which has 378MB memory as a comparison, and Artsd is only using < 10MB. Amarok is comparable, and due to performance limitations I have not loaded MYSQL. Can anyone explain to me why Artsd-the KDE sound architecture-is using so much on the one and so little on the other. Is it because one has more memory to use and Artsd is going to use it? Larry On Tuesday 06 March 2007 07:57:28 pm Earl Violet wrote: > --- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the > > memory usage > > of this notebook and guess what, with almost nothing > > (applications) loaded > > the memory that Kubuntu show as used with the 'free' command is > > 750MB. > > How????? I even stopped X (kdm), apache2, postgresql, everything... > > I`m > > getting crazy??!!! Why kubuntu don`t free this memory??? I went to > > a WinXP > > SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father has and with a lot of > > application > > loaded it still hava free memory at about 200MB. For you guys help > > me lower > > my memory usage here a some 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] > > are outputs > > when nothing is loaded (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some > > default > > applications that usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? > > If can any > > one help me or explain me this strange memory usage... > > > > ----------------- [1] -> free -m > > --------------------------------------------- > > total used free shared buffers > > cached > > Mem: 1002 761 240 0 36 > > 659 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 65 937 > > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-------- > > > ----------------- [2] -> ps aux > > --------------------------------------------- > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME > > COMMAND > > root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 > > /sbin/init > > splash > > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [migration/0] > > root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 > > [ksoftirqd/0] > > root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [watchdog/0] > > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [events/0] > > root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [khelper] > > root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [kthread] > > root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [kblockd/0] > > root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [kacpid] > > root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [kacpi_notify] > > root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [kseriod] > > root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [pdflush] > > root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [pdflush] > > root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [kswapd0] > > root 138 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [aio/0] > > root 1704 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [khubd] > > root 1728 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [khpsbpkt] > > root 1767 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [knodemgrd_0] > > root 1809 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [kjournald] > > root 1884 0.0 0.0 1600 544 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > > //sbin/logd > > root 2027 0.0 0.1 2612 1040 ? S > 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon > > root 2786 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [shpchpd] > > root 2797 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [kpsmoused] > > root 2915 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [pccardd] > > root 2916 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [tifm0] > > root 3033 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [ipw2200/0] > > root 3624 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty2 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > /sbin/getty > > 38400 tty2 > > root 3625 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty3 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > /sbin/getty > > 38400 tty3 > > root 3626 0.0 0.0 1596 504 tty4 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > /sbin/getty > > 38400 tty4 > > root 3627 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty5 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > /sbin/getty > > 38400 tty5 > > root 3628 0.0 0.0 1600 504 tty6 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > /sbin/getty > > 38400 tty6 > > root 3853 0.0 0.1 2200 1164 ? Ss 18:32 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket > > root 3948 0.0 0.0 1648 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > > /sbin/syslogd > > root 3974 0.0 0.0 1728 516 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > > /bin/dd bs 1 > > if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg > > klog 3976 0.0 0.1 2428 1312 ? Ss 18:32 > > 0:00 /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klogd/kmsg > > cupsys 4098 0.0 0.1 4540 2000 ? Ss 18:32 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd > > root 4140 0.0 0.0 4900 924 ? Ss 18:32 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/hpiod > > hplip 4181 0.0 0.4 9672 4860 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > python /usr/sbin/hpssd > > root 4291 0.0 0.2 5580 2272 ? Ss 18:32 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher watch --syslog > > 103 4311 0.0 0.0 2300 896 ? Ss 18:32 > > 0:09 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system > > 106 4326 0.0 0.5 7220 5688 ? Ss 18:32 > > 0:05 /usr/sbin/hald > > root 4327 0.0 0.1 2916 1040 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > hald-runner > > 106 4333 0.0 0.0 2024 872 ? S 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-acpi > > 106 4339 0.0 0.0 2024 844 ? S 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-keyboard > > 106 4355 0.0 0.0 2028 916 ? S 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-storage > > root 4372 0.0 0.0 1948 796 ? Ss 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system > > root 4389 0.0 0.2 20372 2104 ? Ssl 18:33 > > 0:01 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file > > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid > > root 4404 0.0 0.1 2964 1248 ? Ss 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file > > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManagerDispatcher.pid > > root 4447 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > > [ondemand] > > root 4496 0.0 0.1 4940 1048 ? Ss 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd > > root 4578 0.0 0.0 2072 740 ? Ss 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/hcid -x > > root 4584 0.0 0.0 1668 496 ? Ss 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/sdpd > > root 4596 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > > [krfcommd] > > daemon 4634 0.0 0.0 1856 428 ? Ss 18:33 0:00 > > /usr/sbin/atd > > root 4647 0.0 0.0 2192 868 ? Ss 18:33 > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron > > dhcp 4805 0.0 0.0 2392 748 ? S > dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf > > /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases > > eth0 > > root 5221 0.0 0.1 3460 1396 ? S 18:53 > > 0:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -dd -g /var/run/wpa_supplicant-global > > dhcp 5228 0.0 0.1 2400 1168 ? S 18:53 > > 0:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf > > /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e > > dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1 > > root 7806 0.0 0.1 2672 1172 tty1 Ss 21:18 0:00 > > /bin/login -- > > 1000 7812 0.7 0.3 5872 3444 tty1 S 21:18 0:00 > > -bash > > 1000 7831 0.0 0.0 2476 988 tty1 R+ 21:18 0:00 ps > > aux > > --------------------- [2] end > > -------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----------------------[3] -> free -m ----------------------------- > > total used free shared buffers > > cached > > Mem: 1002 967 34 0 39 > > 684 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 244 757 > > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > --------------------- [4] -> ps aux ------------------------------- > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME > > COMMAND > > root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 > > /sbin/init > > splash > > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [migration/0] > > root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 > > [ksoftirqd/0] > > root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > [watchdog/0] > > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > [events/0] > > From my observation, Linux keeps filling the memory but will free it > up as needed. I run a SPARC U60 with 1.5 GB memory and a U30 with 1 > GB and no swap on either. The memory is quickly very full. I run for > days with no problem. Don't worry about it. > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From rbmorse at comcast.net Wed Mar 7 02:49:17 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 19:49:17 -0700 Subject: Another Adept problem In-Reply-To: <1173234220.5103.16.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> <45EE166F.3000702@blueyonder.co.uk> <1173234220.5103.16.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <200703061949.17899.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 07:23:40 pm Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 01:33 +0000, Tez wrote: > > You need to use that 2nd command in my 1st post: > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > you can also finish the update from konsole with: > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > OK, now I have that screen showing up in Konsole window, but what do > I need to do to accept it? Pressing Enter does nothing, I can't click > on it with any effect? What is it waiting for? The accept Java License screen? Try until the "OK" box highlights, then RBM From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Wed Mar 7 04:02:59 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:02:59 -0500 Subject: Another Adept problem In-Reply-To: <200703061949.17899.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <1173227184.5103.4.camel@tregonsee> <45EE166F.3000702@blueyonder.co.uk> <1173234220.5103.16.camel@tregonsee> <200703061949.17899.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1173240199.5103.18.camel@tregonsee> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 19:49 -0700, Ron Morse wrote: > On Tuesday 06 March 2007 07:23:40 pm Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 01:33 +0000, Tez wrote: > > > You need to use that 2nd command in my 1st post: > > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > > you can also finish the update from konsole with: > > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > > > OK, now I have that screen showing up in Konsole window, but what do > > I need to do to accept it? Pressing Enter does nothing, I can't click > > on it with any effect? What is it waiting for? > > The accept Java License screen? Try until the "OK" box > highlights, then Thanks. I think I got through it this time. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -- Hunter S. Thompson From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Wed Mar 7 04:36:03 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:36:03 +0100 Subject: Sifting through files to find/list word/phrase occurrences In-Reply-To: <200703061707.24921.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <45ED8D81.3070708@bluewin.ch> <200703061707.24921.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EE4133.9010208@bluewin.ch> I'm rather ignorant, alas! Could you explain what Kerry/Beagle is and how it works, or where I can read up on it? jdh Thomas Olsen wrote: > Doesn't Kerry/Beagle do that? > > On Tue 6 March 2007 16:49, john d. herron wrote: > >> Hi, all. >> When I use KFind's "Containing text" option to locate files other than >> plain text (e.g. files written in OOWriter but saved as MS .doc) that >> contain a certain word or phrase, I invariably come up emptyhanded even >> though I know for a fact that there are matches it should find. >> Is this a built-in limitation or am I simply being overly optimistic, or >> obviously doing something wrong? >> If so, are there any other methods that could provide the results I am >> looking for? >> Any help will be thankfully appreciated. >> jdh >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed Mar 7 04:47:10 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:47:10 -0500 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> References: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703062347.10692.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 06 March 2007, Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: >Hi all, > >I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the memory > usage of this notebook and guess what, with almost nothing > (applications) loaded the memory that Kubuntu show as used with the > 'free' command is 750MB. How????? I even stopped X (kdm), apache2, > postgresql, everything... I`m getting crazy??!!! Why kubuntu don`t free > this memory??? I went to a WinXP SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father > has and with a lot of application loaded it still hava free memory at > about 200MB. For you guys help me lower my memory usage here a some > 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] are outputs when nothing is loaded > (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some default applications that > usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? If can any one help me > or explain me this strange memory usage... > >----------------- [1] -> free -m > --------------------------------------------- total used > free shared buffers cached Mem: 1002 761 > 240 0 36 659 -/+ buffers/cache: 65 > 937 >Swap: 2933 0 2933 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >----------- > >----------------- [2] -> ps aux > --------------------------------------------- USER PID %CPU %MEM > VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 > 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 /sbin/init splash >root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [migration/0] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 > 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [watchdog/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [events/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [khelper] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 > ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kthread] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 > 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kblockd/0] root 10 0.0 0.0 > 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpid] root 11 0.0 0.0 > 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpi_notify] >root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kseriod] root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 > 0:00 [pdflush] root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [pdflush] root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [kswapd0] root 138 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [aio/0] root 1704 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [khubd] root 1728 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [khpsbpkt] root 1767 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S 18:32 0:00 [knodemgrd_0] root 1809 0.0 0.0 0 > 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kjournald] root 1884 0.0 0.0 > 1600 544 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 //sbin/logd root 2027 0.0 > 0.1 2612 1040 ? S0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon >root 2786 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [shpchpd] root 2797 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 > 0:00 [kpsmoused] root 2915 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [pccardd] root 2916 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [tifm0] root 3033 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [ipw2200/0] root 3624 0.0 0.0 1600 508 > tty2 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 >root 3625 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty3 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty3 >root 3626 0.0 0.0 1596 504 tty4 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 >root 3627 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty5 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty5 >root 3628 0.0 0.0 1600 504 tty6 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty6 >root 3853 0.0 0.1 2200 1164 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket >root 3948 0.0 0.0 1648 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/syslogd root 3974 0.0 0.0 1728 516 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg >klog 3976 0.0 0.1 2428 1312 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klogd/kmsg >cupsys 4098 0.0 0.1 4540 2000 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd >root 4140 0.0 0.0 4900 924 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/hpiod >hplip 4181 0.0 0.4 9672 4860 ? S 18:32 0:00 >python /usr/sbin/hpssd >root 4291 0.0 0.2 5580 2272 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher watch --syslog >103 4311 0.0 0.0 2300 896 ? Ss 18:32 >0:09 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system >106 4326 0.0 0.5 7220 5688 ? Ss 18:32 >0:05 /usr/sbin/hald >root 4327 0.0 0.1 2916 1040 ? S 18:32 0:00 > hald-runner 106 4333 0.0 0.0 2024 872 ? S 18:33 >0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-acpi >106 4339 0.0 0.0 2024 844 ? S 18:33 >0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-keyboard >106 4355 0.0 0.0 2028 916 ? S 18:33 >0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-storage >root 4372 0.0 0.0 1948 796 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system >root 4389 0.0 0.2 20372 2104 ? Ssl 18:33 >0:01 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid root 4404 0.0 0.1 > 2964 1248 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManagerDispatcher.pid root 4447 > 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 [ondemand] root > 4496 0.0 0.1 4940 1048 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd >root 4578 0.0 0.0 2072 740 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/hcid -x >root 4584 0.0 0.0 1668 496 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/sdpd >root 4596 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > [krfcommd] daemon 4634 0.0 0.0 1856 428 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd root 4647 0.0 0.0 2192 868 ? Ss > 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/cron >dhcp 4805 0.0 0.0 2392 748 ? Sdhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf > /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0 >root 5221 0.0 0.1 3460 1396 ? S 18:53 >0:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -dd -g /var/run/wpa_supplicant-global >dhcp 5228 0.0 0.1 2400 1168 ? S 18:53 >0:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf > /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1 >root 7806 0.0 0.1 2672 1172 tty1 Ss 21:18 0:00 > /bin/login -- 1000 7812 0.7 0.3 5872 3444 tty1 S 21:18 > 0:00 -bash 1000 7831 0.0 0.0 2476 988 tty1 R+ 21:18 > 0:00 ps aux --------------------- [2] end > -------------------------------------- > > >----------------------[3] -> free -m ----------------------------- > total used free shared buffers > cached Mem: 1002 967 34 0 39 > 684 -/+ buffers/cache: 244 757 >Swap: 2933 0 2933 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >--------------------- [4] -> ps aux ------------------------------- >USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND >root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 > /sbin/init splash >root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > [migration/0] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 > 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [watchdog/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [events/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [khelper] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 > ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kthread] root 9 0.0 0.0 0 > 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kblockd/0] root 10 0.0 0.0 > 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpid] root 11 0.0 0.0 > 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kacpi_notify] >root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [kseriod] root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 > 0:00 [pdflush] root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [pdflush] root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [kswapd0] root 138 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [aio/0] root 1704 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [khubd] root 1728 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [khpsbpkt] root 1767 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S 18:32 0:00 [knodemgrd_0] root 1809 0.0 0.0 0 > 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 [kjournald] root 1884 0.0 0.0 > 1600 544 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 //sbin/logd root 2027 0.0 > 0.1 2612 1040 ? S0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon >root 2786 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > [shpchpd] root 2797 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 > 0:00 [kpsmoused] root 2915 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S > 18:32 0:00 [pccardd] root 2916 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [tifm0] root 3033 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? > S< 18:32 0:00 [ipw2200/0] root 3624 0.0 0.0 1600 508 > tty2 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 >root 3625 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty3 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty3 >root 3626 0.0 0.0 1596 504 tty4 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty4 >root 3627 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty5 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty5 >root 3628 0.0 0.0 1600 504 tty6 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/getty 38400 tty6 >root 3853 0.0 0.1 2200 1164 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket >root 3948 0.0 0.0 1648 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > /sbin/syslogd root 3974 0.0 0.0 1728 516 ? Ss 18:32 > 0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg >klog 3976 0.0 0.1 2428 1312 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klogd/kmsg >cupsys 4098 0.0 0.1 4540 2000 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd >root 4140 0.0 0.0 4900 924 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/hpiod >hplip 4181 0.0 0.4 9672 4860 ? S 18:32 0:00 >python /usr/sbin/hpssd >root 4291 0.0 0.2 5580 2272 ? Ss 18:32 >0:00 /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher watch --syslog >103 4311 0.0 0.0 2300 896 ? Ss 18:32 >0:09 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system >106 4326 0.0 0.5 7220 5688 ? Ss 18:32 >0:05 /usr/sbin/hald >root 4327 0.0 0.1 2916 1040 ? S 18:32 0:00 > hald-runner 106 4333 0.0 0.0 2024 872 ? S 18:32 >0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-acpi >106 4339 0.0 0.0 2024 844 ? S 18:33 >0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-keyboard >106 4355 0.0 0.0 2028 916 ? S 18:33 >0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-storage >root 4372 0.0 0.0 1948 796 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system >root 4389 0.0 0.2 20372 2104 ? Ssl 18:33 >0:01 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid root 4404 0.0 0.1 > 2964 1248 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManagerDispatcher.pid root 4447 > 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 [ondemand] root > 4496 0.0 0.1 4940 1048 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd >root 4578 0.0 0.0 2072 740 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/hcid -x >root 4584 0.0 0.0 1668 496 ? Ss 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/sdpd >root 4596 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > [krfcommd] daemon 4634 0.0 0.0 1856 428 ? Ss 18:33 > 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd root 4647 0.0 0.0 2192 868 ? Ss > 18:33 >0:00 /usr/sbin/cron >dhcp 4805 0.0 0.0 2392 748 ? Sdhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf > /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0 >root 5221 0.0 0.1 3460 1396 ? S 18:53 >0:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -dd -g /var/run/wpa_supplicant-global >dhcp 5228 0.0 0.1 2400 1168 ? S 18:53 >0:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf > /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1 >root 7806 0.0 0.1 2672 1172 tty1 Ss 21:18 0:00 > /bin/login -- 1000 7812 0.1 0.4 6844 4432 tty1 S+ 21:18 > 0:00 -bash root 7886 0.0 0.5 18036 5668 ? Ss 21:19 >0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL >www-data 7890 0.0 0.3 18036 3100 ? S 21:19 >0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL >www-data 7891 0.0 0.3 18036 3100 ? S 21:19 >0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL >postgres 7951 0.0 0.3 19416 3912 ? S 21:19 >0:00 /usr/lib/postgresql/8.1/bin/postmaster -D > /var/lib/postgresql/8.1/main -c > config_file=/etc/postgresql/8.1/main/postgresql.conf >postgres 7953 0.0 0.1 19416 1144 ? S 21:19 0:00 > postgres: writer process >postgres 7954 0.0 0.1 10196 1060 ? S 21:19 0:00 > postgres: stats buffer process >postgres 7955 0.0 0.1 9324 1264 ? S 21:19 0:00 > postgres: stats collector process >root 8050 0.0 0.1 6912 1624 ? Ss 21:19 >0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd -D >root 8052 0.0 0.2 9756 2124 ? Ss 21:19 >0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D >root 8056 0.0 0.0 9756 932 ? S 21:19 >0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D >root 8111 0.0 0.3 3780 3796 ? SLs 21:19 >0:00 /usr/sbin/slmodemd --alsa -c USA modem:1 >root 8282 0.0 0.1 3652 1396 tty1 S 21:21 >0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe >mysql 8346 0.1 2.0 128344 21008 tty1 Sl 21:21 >0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql > --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking > --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock root 8347 0.0 > 0.0 2720 664 tty1 S 21:21 0:00 logger -p daemon.err -t > mysqld_safe -i -t mysqld >root 8457 0.0 0.0 2688 648 ? Ss 21:21 0:00 > /usr/bin/kdm root 8459 1.9 2.3 29716 23840 tty7 Rs+ 21:21 >0:04 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-egrlZg >root 8460 0.0 0.1 3664 1392 ? S 21:21 0:00 -:0 >1000 8469 0.0 0.1 4132 1600 ? Ss 21:21 >0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startkde >1000 8510 0.0 0.0 4484 728 ? Ss 21:21 >0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session > /usr/bin/startkde 1000 8513 0.0 0.0 2532 624 ? S > 21:21 >0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startkde >1000 8514 0.0 0.0 2060 440 ? Ss 21:21 >0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 8 --print-address 6 > --session 1000 8547 0.0 0.0 1444 136 ? S 21:21 > 0:00 start_kdeinit --new-startup +kcminit_startup >1000 8548 0.0 0.8 25848 8504 ? Ss 21:21 0:00 kdeinit >Running... >1000 8551 0.0 0.3 25036 3152 ? S 21:21 0:00 > dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid >1000 8553 0.0 0.8 27160 8824 ? S 21:21 0:00 > klauncher [kdeinit] --new-startup >1000 8555 0.5 1.7 35140 17964 ? S 21:21 0:01 kded >[kdeinit] --new-startup >1000 8561 0.0 0.0 1580 356 ? S 21:21 0:00 > kwrapper ksmserver >1000 8563 0.0 0.9 26712 10220 ? S 21:21 0:00 > ksmserver [kdeinit] >1000 8564 0.2 1.3 29460 13520 ? S 21:21 0:00 kwin >[kdeinit] -session >102011a21721ba000117315545800000048930072_1173226236_301864 >1000 8566 0.4 1.5 31668 15940 ? S 21:21 0:01 > kdesktop [kdeinit] >1000 8568 0.7 1.7 34376 18344 ? S 21:21 0:01 kicker >[kdeinit] >1000 8572 0.1 1.4 30104 14756 ? S 21:21 0:00 > kio_uiserver [kdeinit] >1000 8573 0.0 0.7 27656 8096 ? S 21:21 0:00 > kio_system [kdeinit] >system /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kickerEl6vlc.slave-socket 1000 8574 0.0 > 0.9 27832 9376 ? S 21:21 0:00 kio_trash [kdeinit] >trash /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kickeriwoBba.slave-socket 1000 8583 0.0 > 0.9 26420 9756 ? S 21:22 0:00 kaccess [kdeinit] >1000 8584 0.5 0.7 21376 7844 ? S 21:22 >0:01 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 > -f 1000 8601 1.0 1.7 31184 17544 ? S 21:22 0:02 > katapult -session > 10d9d39668000112680660600000081280032_1173226236_208462 1000 8603 > 0.2 1.5 31032 15408 ? S 21:22 0:00 kmix [kdeinit] > -session >102011a21721ba000116474885200000169990095_1173226236_199431 >1000 8609 0.0 0.2 7848 2284 ? S 21:22 0:00 >aspell -a -S -C -d en_US -Tutf8 --encoding=utf-8 >1000 8626 0.1 1.9 49564 20436 ? S 21:22 >0:00 /usr/bin/python > /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py 1000 > 8627 0.0 1.2 34544 13220 ? S 21:22 0:00 knotify > [kdeinit] >1000 8630 0.0 0.0 1864 628 ? S 21:22 >0:00 /usr/bin/passkey-agent --default /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin >1000 8632 1.2 1.4 31788 14984 ? S 21:22 0:02 >adept_notifier >1000 8634 0.2 1.2 28432 12888 ? S 21:22 0:00 >kbluetoothd --dontforceshow >1000 8636 0.0 1.2 27656 12364 ? S 21:22 0:00 klipper >[kdeinit] >1000 8638 0.3 1.4 32272 14952 ? S 21:22 0:00 >korgac --miniicon korganizer >1000 8640 0.6 2.0 56392 20792 ? S 21:22 >0:01 /usr/bin/python > /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py 1000 > 8646 0.6 1.6 33572 16708 ? S 21:22 0:01 konsole > [kdeinit] >1000 8647 0.0 0.3 5852 3428 pts/2 Ss 21:22 0:00 > /bin/bash 1000 8666 4.9 3.6 93940 37892 ? Sl 21:23 > 0:08 kontact 1000 8672 0.0 1.1 56868 11480 ? S 21:23 > 0:00 kio_pop3 [kdeinit] >pop3s /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kontactkwhxEa.slave-socket 1000 8673 0.0 > 1.1 56764 11408 ? S 21:23 0:00 kio_pop3 [kdeinit] >pop3 /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kontactpVphBb.slave-socket 1000 8674 0.0 > 1.1 56764 11408 ? S 21:23 0:00 kio_pop3 [kdeinit] >pop3 /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kontactwrNF7b.slave-socket 1000 8675 0.0 > 0.8 27696 8828 ? S 21:23 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] >file /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kontactfJnksb.slave-socket 1000 8682 0.4 > 1.3 28200 13672 ? S 21:23 0:00 kwalletmanager --kwalletd >1000 8683 0.0 0.8 27696 8828 ? S 21:23 0:00 > kio_file [kdeinit] >file /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kontactlk9rVb.slave-socket 1000 8684 0.0 > 0.8 27696 8824 ? S 21:23 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] >file /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kontactgmgUpc.slave-socket 1000 8686 0.0 > 0.8 27696 8824 ? S 21:23 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] >file /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/kontactoyek2b.slave-socket 1000 8712 0.0 > 0.8 27828 9048 ? S 21:24 0:00 kio_file [kdeinit] >file /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/amarokjYzWKb.slave-socket 1000 8737 0.6 > 1.2 29372 12384 ? SN 21:25 0:00 kio_thumbnail [kdeinit] >thumbnail /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/klauncherjZQttc.slave-socket > /tmp/ksocket-leomcabral/konqueroreIk4Sa.slave-socket 1000 8741 > 0.0 0.0 2472 984 pts/2 R+ 21:26 0:00 ps aux > -----------------------[4] > end------------------------------------------------ Don't worry about the memory, linux uses it for cache in case you want to rerun that program. If it needs to, it will release it and reassign it to the next application that needs it, I believe on a least recently used basis. You are not running out of memory until you actually see some swap being used. Even that can be alleviated with a 'swapoff', 'swapon' sequence from the cli, done at root. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Plumber mistook routing panel for decorative wall fixture From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 07:10:06 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:10:06 -0800 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <45EE0DAB.3050000@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> <45EE0DAB.3050000@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: On 3/6/07, Tez wrote: > Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the memory usage > > of this notebook and guess what, with almost nothing (applications) loaded > > the memory that Kubuntu show as used with the 'free' command is 750MB. > > How????? I even stopped X (kdm), apache2, postgresql, everything... I`m > > getting crazy??!!! Why kubuntu don`t free this memory??? I went to a WinXP > > SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father has and with a lot of application > > loaded it still hava free memory at about 200MB. For you guys help me lower > > my memory usage here a some 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] are outputs > > when nothing is loaded (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some default > > applications that usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? If can any > > one help me or explain me this strange memory usage... > > > > ----------------- [1] -> free -m --------------------------------------------- > > total used free shared buffers cached > > Mem: 1002 761 240 0 36 659 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 65 937 > > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _SNIP_ > Do you see that most of the RAM is used under "cached" ? > > That's the file cache, where often accessed files are stored in RAM, > Take a look at my output of 'free -om': > total used free shared buffers cached > Mem: 1511 1414 97 0 24 873 > Swap: 956 0 956 > > > See how over 800MB is used as cache, it's normal for most of your RAM to > be cache, and it's actually a good thing to. > It saves the system having to access the, relatively slow, disk to read > some files. > As soon as the system needs more memory, it will shrink the cache to > free some. > If you want to see how much of the RAM is used by applications, just > take the cached amount from the used amount. > So in your case, 761 MB - 659 MB = 102 MB used htop does this for you. jstalin at the-kremlin$ ~/ sudo apt-get install htop -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 07:12:47 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:12:47 -0800 Subject: Problem updating kernel In-Reply-To: <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> References: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: What's "safe mode." IIRC that's a mode in Windows which boots a emergency system image in the event that a small bug manifests itself in the normal kernel's windshield. Do you mean the backup kernel? I don't follow you. -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From infopipe at gmx.net Wed Mar 7 07:44:06 2007 From: infopipe at gmx.net (Bernhard Breinbauer) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 08:44:06 +0100 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <200703062121.27512.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <542559.12192.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703062121.27512.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703070844.11196.infopipe@gmx.net> Observation and evaluation of memory usage in linux is a rather difficult topic. Some starting points: Tools for memory evaluation: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/analysis.html KDE memory performance: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2350 http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html HTH, bernhard On Wednesday 07 March 2007 wrote Larry Hartman: > Follow-on question to this thread...I have been studying my memory > situation closely for last few days on my laptop. The reason being that a > month ago it was hovering around 250MB out of 1GB. Last few days It has > been 400MB or higher. I downloaded a utility that allows me to watch it > graphically, showing me what programs are using it. I discovered that > MYSQL was using 130MB, Amarok, 70MB, and Artsd (2 instances) 65M. > > I looked on my desktop which has 378MB memory as a comparison, and Artsd is > only using < 10MB. Amarok is comparable, and due to performance > limitations I have not loaded MYSQL. > > Can anyone explain to me why Artsd-the KDE sound architecture-is using so > much on the one and so little on the other. Is it because one has more > memory to use and Artsd is going to use it? > > Larry > > On Tuesday 06 March 2007 07:57:28 pm Earl Violet wrote: > > --- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the > > > memory usage > > > of this notebook and guess what, with almost nothing > > > (applications) loaded > > > the memory that Kubuntu show as used with the 'free' command is > > > 750MB. > > > How????? I even stopped X (kdm), apache2, postgresql, everything... > > > I`m > > > getting crazy??!!! Why kubuntu don`t free this memory??? I went to > > > a WinXP > > > SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father has and with a lot of > > > application > > > loaded it still hava free memory at about 200MB. For you guys help > > > me lower > > > my memory usage here a some 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] > > > are outputs > > > when nothing is loaded (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some > > > default > > > applications that usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? > > > If can any > > > one help me or explain me this strange memory usage... > > > > > > ----------------- [1] -> free -m > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > total used free shared buffers > > > cached > > > Mem: 1002 761 240 0 36 > > > 659 > > > -/+ buffers/cache: 65 937 > > > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- -------- > > > > > ----------------- [2] -> ps aux > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME > > > COMMAND > > > root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 > > > /sbin/init > > > splash > > > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [migration/0] > > > root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 > > > [ksoftirqd/0] > > > root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [watchdog/0] > > > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [events/0] > > > root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [khelper] > > > root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [kthread] > > > root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [kblockd/0] > > > root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [kacpid] > > > root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [kacpi_notify] > > > root 102 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [kseriod] > > > root 135 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [pdflush] > > > root 136 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [pdflush] > > > root 137 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [kswapd0] > > > root 138 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [aio/0] > > > root 1704 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [khubd] > > > root 1728 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [khpsbpkt] > > > root 1767 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [knodemgrd_0] > > > root 1809 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [kjournald] > > > root 1884 0.0 0.0 1600 544 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > > > //sbin/logd > > > root 2027 0.0 0.1 2612 1040 ? S > > 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon > > > root 2786 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [shpchpd] > > > root 2797 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [kpsmoused] > > > root 2915 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [pccardd] > > > root 2916 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [tifm0] > > > root 3033 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [ipw2200/0] > > > root 3624 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty2 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > > /sbin/getty > > > 38400 tty2 > > > root 3625 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty3 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > > /sbin/getty > > > 38400 tty3 > > > root 3626 0.0 0.0 1596 504 tty4 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > > /sbin/getty > > > 38400 tty4 > > > root 3627 0.0 0.0 1600 508 tty5 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > > /sbin/getty > > > 38400 tty5 > > > root 3628 0.0 0.0 1600 504 tty6 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 > > > /sbin/getty > > > 38400 tty6 > > > root 3853 0.0 0.1 2200 1164 ? Ss 18:32 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket > > > root 3948 0.0 0.0 1648 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > > > /sbin/syslogd > > > root 3974 0.0 0.0 1728 516 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 > > > /bin/dd bs 1 > > > if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg > > > klog 3976 0.0 0.1 2428 1312 ? Ss 18:32 > > > 0:00 /sbin/klogd -P /var/run/klogd/kmsg > > > cupsys 4098 0.0 0.1 4540 2000 ? Ss 18:32 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd > > > root 4140 0.0 0.0 4900 924 ? Ss 18:32 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/hpiod > > > hplip 4181 0.0 0.4 9672 4860 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > python /usr/sbin/hpssd > > > root 4291 0.0 0.2 5580 2272 ? Ss 18:32 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/apt-index-watcher watch --syslog > > > 103 4311 0.0 0.0 2300 896 ? Ss 18:32 > > > 0:09 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system > > > 106 4326 0.0 0.5 7220 5688 ? Ss 18:32 > > > 0:05 /usr/sbin/hald > > > root 4327 0.0 0.1 2916 1040 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > hald-runner > > > 106 4333 0.0 0.0 2024 872 ? S 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-acpi > > > 106 4339 0.0 0.0 2024 844 ? S 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-keyboard > > > 106 4355 0.0 0.0 2028 916 ? S 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-storage > > > root 4372 0.0 0.0 1948 796 ? Ss 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system > > > root 4389 0.0 0.2 20372 2104 ? Ssl 18:33 > > > 0:01 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --pid-file > > > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.pid > > > root 4404 0.0 0.1 2964 1248 ? Ss 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/NetworkManagerDispatcher --pid-file > > > /var/run/NetworkManager/NetworkManagerDispatcher.pid > > > root 4447 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > > > [ondemand] > > > root 4496 0.0 0.1 4940 1048 ? Ss 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd > > > root 4578 0.0 0.0 2072 740 ? Ss 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/hcid -x > > > root 4584 0.0 0.0 1668 496 ? Ss 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/sdpd > > > root 4596 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:33 0:00 > > > [krfcommd] > > > daemon 4634 0.0 0.0 1856 428 ? Ss 18:33 0:00 > > > /usr/sbin/atd > > > root 4647 0.0 0.0 2192 868 ? Ss 18:33 > > > 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron > > > dhcp 4805 0.0 0.0 2392 748 ? S > > dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf > > > /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases > > > eth0 > > > root 5221 0.0 0.1 3460 1396 ? S 18:53 > > > 0:00 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -dd -g /var/run/wpa_supplicant-global > > > dhcp 5228 0.0 0.1 2400 1168 ? S 18:53 > > > 0:00 /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf > > > /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e > > > dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1 > > > root 7806 0.0 0.1 2672 1172 tty1 Ss 21:18 0:00 > > > /bin/login -- > > > 1000 7812 0.7 0.3 5872 3444 tty1 S 21:18 0:00 > > > -bash > > > 1000 7831 0.0 0.0 2476 988 tty1 R+ 21:18 0:00 ps > > > aux > > > --------------------- [2] end > > > -------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > ----------------------[3] -> free -m ----------------------------- > > > total used free shared buffers > > > cached > > > Mem: 1002 967 34 0 39 > > > 684 > > > -/+ buffers/cache: 244 757 > > > Swap: 2933 0 2933 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > --------------------- [4] -> ps aux ------------------------------- > > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME > > > COMMAND > > > root 1 0.0 0.0 1632 612 ? Ss 18:32 0:01 > > > /sbin/init > > > splash > > > root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [migration/0] > > > root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 18:32 0:00 > > > [ksoftirqd/0] > > > root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 > > > [watchdog/0] > > > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 18:32 0:00 > > > [events/0] > > > > From my observation, Linux keeps filling the memory but will free it > > up as needed. I run a SPARC U60 with 1.5 GB memory and a U30 with 1 > > GB and no swap on either. The memory is quickly very full. I run for > > days with no problem. Don't worry about it. > > > > Earl > > > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > > ICQ:64033496 > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > >__ _________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I went to a WinXP >>> SP2 box with 512MB RAM that my father has and with a lot of application >>> loaded it still hava free memory at about 200MB. For you guys help me lower >>> my memory usage here a some 'free' and 'ps' outputs. [1] and [2] are outputs >>> when nothing is loaded (neither X), and [3] and [4] with some default >>> applications that usually starts with kde. Is this a kernel bug??? If can any >>> one help me or explain me this strange memory usage... >>> >>> ----------------- [1] -> free -m --------------------------------------------- >>> total used free shared buffers cached >>> Mem: 1002 761 240 0 36 659 >>> -/+ buffers/cache: 65 937 >>> Swap: 2933 0 2933 >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> _SNIP_ >> Do you see that most of the RAM is used under "cached" ? >> >> That's the file cache, where often accessed files are stored in RAM, >> Take a look at my output of 'free -om': >> total used free shared buffers cached >> Mem: 1511 1414 97 0 24 873 >> Swap: 956 0 956 >> >> >> See how over 800MB is used as cache, it's normal for most of your RAM to >> be cache, and it's actually a good thing to. >> It saves the system having to access the, relatively slow, disk to read >> some files. >> As soon as the system needs more memory, it will shrink the cache to >> free some. >> If you want to see how much of the RAM is used by applications, just >> take the cached amount from the used amount. >> So in your case, 761 MB - 659 MB = 102 MB used > > htop does this for you. > > jstalin at the-kremlin$ ~/ sudo apt-get install htop Cool program! Looks better than KDE System Guard. :) Matthew Flaschen From philbieber at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 08:10:38 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:10:38 +0100 Subject: Problem updating kernel In-Reply-To: References: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703070010q152dc7b4k65cafa5a0ebe641c@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I'd say, he's refering to the "Recovery Mode" available in the Boot Menue... Cheers Philipp Bieber On 3/7/07, Chris Miller wrote: > > What's "safe mode." > > IIRC that's a mode in Windows which boots a emergency system image in > the event that a small bug manifests itself in the normal kernel's > windshield. > > Do you mean the backup kernel? I don't follow you. > > -- > It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philbieber at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 09:03:04 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:03:04 +0100 Subject: Sifting through files to find/list word/phrase occurrences In-Reply-To: <45EE4133.9010208@bluewin.ch> References: <45ED8D81.3070708@bluewin.ch> <200703061707.24921.tanghus@gmail.com> <45EE4133.9010208@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703070103r36cf125excb751d3af200fcdc@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Beagle is a Desktop Search Tool, simillar to Google Desktop Search or MS Desktop Search, just Open Source ;-) You can index your harddisk (or parts of it) and it searches them. IIRC Beagle supports many filetyps to be searched (OO.org, MS Office...) and it's in the KUbuntu Repos (I think....) Cheers Philipp Bieber On 3/7/07, john d. herron wrote: > > I'm rather ignorant, alas! > Could you explain what Kerry/Beagle is and how it works, or where I can > read up on it? > jdh > > Thomas Olsen wrote: > > Doesn't Kerry/Beagle do that? > > On Tue 6 March 2007 16:49, john d. herron wrote: > > Hi, all. > When I use KFind's "Containing text" option to locate files other than > plain text (e.g. files written in OOWriter but saved as MS .doc) that > contain a certain word or phrase, I invariably come up emptyhanded even > though I know for a fact that there are matches it should find. > Is this a built-in limitation or am I simply being overly optimistic, or > obviously doing something wrong? > If so, are there any other methods that could provide the results I am > looking for? > Any help will be thankfully appreciated. > jdh > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Mar 7 09:41:18 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:41:18 -0500 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> Chris Miller wrote: > On 3/5/07, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: >> On Sunday 04 March 2007 04:37, Mark Kelly wrote: >>> It's a modifier key (like alt, ctrl etc) so I use mine to make app >>> shortcuts that (in my experience) won't interfere with anything else. >> In addition to this kind of shortcuts, I also always select "Default KDE with >> 4 modifier keys" in the "keyboard shortcuts" tab of the system settings. That >> 4th mod key IS the win key. >> >> In my early KDE days, I used to redefine my own shortcuts on all computers I >> worked with. But it was quite time consuming and error prone, so now I >> learned the default KDE ones and live with them :-) > > I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me > feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): > > #!/bin/sh > :(){ :|:&};: Awesome. I ran it, despite reading the newsgroup thread. After all, what could a little punctuation do? Matt Flaschen From gene.heskett at verizon.net Wed Mar 7 12:09:58 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:09:58 -0500 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703070709.58415.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >Chris Miller wrote: >> On 3/5/07, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: >>> On Sunday 04 March 2007 04:37, Mark Kelly wrote: >>>> It's a modifier key (like alt, ctrl etc) so I use mine to make app >>>> shortcuts that (in my experience) won't interfere with anything >>>> else. >>> >>> In addition to this kind of shortcuts, I also always select "Default >>> KDE with 4 modifier keys" in the "keyboard shortcuts" tab of the >>> system settings. That 4th mod key IS the win key. >>> >>> In my early KDE days, I used to redefine my own shortcuts on all >>> computers I worked with. But it was quite time consuming and error >>> prone, so now I learned the default KDE ones and live with them :-) >> >> I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me >> feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): >> >> #!/bin/sh >> >> :(){ :|:&};: > >Awesome. I ran it, despite reading the newsgroup thread. After all, >what could a little punctuation do? > >Matt Flaschen Yeah, I had to bite too. I just LOVE rebooting with the hardware reset button. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Hempstone's Question: If you have to travel on the Titanic, why not go first class? From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 12:24:21 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:24:21 +0200 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <200703040337.35885.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> <200703060721.40742.list.dhooge@gmail.com> <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45EEAEF5.3070700@gmail.com> >Awesome. I ran it, despite reading the newsgroup thread. After all, > what could a little punctuation do? That should be more like puncTUREation ! :D /d From hackgram at yahoo.com.ar Wed Mar 7 13:26:11 2007 From: hackgram at yahoo.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pablo_Hern=E1n_Rodriguez_Zivic?=) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:26:11 -0300 Subject: Problem updating kernel In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703070010q152dc7b4k65cafa5a0ebe641c@mail.gmail.com> References: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> <3b27fa9d0703070010q152dc7b4k65cafa5a0ebe641c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EEBD73.1000401@yahoo.com.ar> Yes, sorry, i meant the recovery mode. In the list of kernels to load, for each kernel you have an alternative way of booting that takes you to a console. So... any ideas for getting my kubuntu to work? Phil Bieber wrote: > Hi! > I'd say, he's refering to the "Recovery Mode" available in the Boot > Menue... > > Cheers > > Philipp Bieber > > On 3/7/07, *Chris Miller * > wrote: > > What's "safe mode." > > IIRC that's a mode in Windows which boots a emergency system image in > the event that a small bug manifests itself in the normal kernel's > windshield. > > Do you mean the backup kernel? I don't follow you. > > -- > It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > -- Buck Henry > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 07/03/2007 09:24 a.m. > > __________________________________________________ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas From neil.linux at iinet.net.au Wed Mar 7 15:27:55 2007 From: neil.linux at iinet.net.au (neil.linux) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 02:27:55 +1100 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <200703070709.58415.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> <200703070709.58415.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45EED9FB.5070109@iinet.net.au> Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Chris Miller wrote: >> >>> On 3/5/07, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: >>> >>>> On Sunday 04 March 2007 04:37, Mark Kelly wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's a modifier key (like alt, ctrl etc) so I use mine to make app >>>>> shortcuts that (in my experience) won't interfere with anything >>>>> else. >>>>> >>>> In addition to this kind of shortcuts, I also always select "Default >>>> KDE with 4 modifier keys" in the "keyboard shortcuts" tab of the >>>> system settings. That 4th mod key IS the win key. >>>> >>>> In my early KDE days, I used to redefine my own shortcuts on all >>>> computers I worked with. But it was quite time consuming and error >>>> prone, so now I learned the default KDE ones and live with them :-) >>>> >>> I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me >>> feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): >>> >>> #!/bin/sh >>> >>> :(){ :|:&};: >>> >> Awesome. I ran it, despite reading the newsgroup thread. After all, >> what could a little punctuation do? >> >> Matt Flaschen >> > > Yeah, I had to bite too. I just LOVE rebooting with the hardware reset > button. > > Cheers, Gene > Try it on a laptop sometime :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I shouldn't confess at this point that my Kubuntu desktop PC > > just went boom (with a little puff of smoke) and I am now on the > > Win*ahem*dows laptop posting to the kubu users list! What will become of > > me? > > > > Whatever, 'tis late -- to bed! > > > > /d -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 18:04:05 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:04:05 +0200 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <200703071231.30128.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E748F2.5090502@gmail.com> <8c2876850703011948k67c5f465tfb77fc431e483c98@mail.gmail.com> <200703071231.30128.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45EEFE95.1050401@gmail.com> Art Alexion wrote: > Yo... did someone mention windowpane? > > On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:48, MKR wrote: >> Exposure to Linux gives you resistence to Windows' various effects. >> Just don't stay too long ot you may become ill. Arrgh I still be on the painful window. It doth truly suck and I am suffering kubuntu withdrawals... My shiny new machine arrives tomorrow -- in theory -- then it's all 64 bit and related fun for me :) /d From hackgram at yahoo.com.ar Wed Mar 7 19:38:05 2007 From: hackgram at yahoo.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pablo_Hern=E1n_Rodriguez_Zivic?=) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:38:05 -0300 Subject: now *that* is weird In-Reply-To: <45EEFE95.1050401@gmail.com> References: <200702281543.09262.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45E748F2.5090502@gmail.com> <8c2876850703011948k67c5f465tfb77fc431e483c98@mail.gmail.com> <200703071231.30128.art.alexion@verizon.net> <45EEFE95.1050401@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EF149D.6000601@yahoo.com.ar> Well, i had no choice but to reinstall. Now it's woring fine. Thank everyone for the great effort you made to answer me, most of all to Phil Bieber! Saludos Pablo Donn wrote: > Art Alexion wrote: > >> Yo... did someone mention windowpane? >> >> On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:48, MKR wrote: >> >>> Exposure to Linux gives you resistence to Windows' various effects. >>> Just don't stay too long ot you may become ill. >>> > > Arrgh I still be on the painful window. > It doth truly suck and I am suffering kubuntu > withdrawals... My shiny new machine arrives tomorrow -- in theory -- > then it's all 64 bit and related fun for me :) > > > /d > > > __________________________________________________ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Wed Mar 7 20:31:51 2007 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:31:51 +0000 Subject: Problem updating kernel In-Reply-To: <45EEBD73.1000401@yahoo.com.ar> References: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> <3b27fa9d0703070010q152dc7b4k65cafa5a0ebe641c@mail.gmail.com> <45EEBD73.1000401@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: Pablo Hernán Rodriguez Zivic wrote: > Yes, sorry, i meant the recovery mode. In the list of kernels to load, > for each kernel you have an alternative way of booting that takes you to > a console. > > So... any ideas for getting my kubuntu to work? Im sorry I do not know much but I had to use recovery mode recently for a different reason. In my case I could type my username login username (password) and then th ecommand startx worked to get a mostly normal display. I then saved some data and tried to repair some damage. One of the things I had to do was check the /etc/fstab entries and also do a file system check (fsck I think) Maybe others can help more good luck ac > > > Phil Bieber wrote: > >> Hi! >> I'd say, he's refering to the "Recovery Mode" available in the Boot >> Menue... >> >> Cheers >> >> Philipp Bieber >> >> On 3/7/07, *Chris Miller * > > wrote: >> >> What's "safe mode." >> >> IIRC that's a mode in Windows which boots a emergency system image in >> the event that a small bug manifests itself in the normal kernel's >> windshield. >> >> Do you mean the backup kernel? I don't follow you. >> >> -- >> It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 >> >> -- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Wed Mar 7 21:06:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:06:37 -0500 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <45EED9FB.5070109@iinet.net.au> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> <200703070709.58415.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <45EED9FB.5070109@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <45EF295D.8040900@gatech.edu> neil.linux wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> >>> Chris Miller wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/5/07, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sunday 04 March 2007 04:37, Mark Kelly wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's a modifier key (like alt, ctrl etc) so I use mine to make app >>>>>> shortcuts that (in my experience) won't interfere with anything >>>>>> else. >>>>>> >>>>> In addition to this kind of shortcuts, I also always select "Default >>>>> KDE with 4 modifier keys" in the "keyboard shortcuts" tab of the >>>>> system settings. That 4th mod key IS the win key. >>>>> >>>>> In my early KDE days, I used to redefine my own shortcuts on all >>>>> computers I worked with. But it was quite time consuming and error >>>>> prone, so now I learned the default KDE ones and live with them :-) >>>>> >>>> I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me >>>> feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): >>>> >>>> #!/bin/sh >>>> >>>> :(){ :|:&};: >>>> >>> Awesome. I ran it, despite reading the newsgroup thread. After all, >>> what could a little punctuation do? >>> >>> Matt Flaschen >>> >> >> Yeah, I had to bite too. I just LOVE rebooting with the hardware >> reset button. >> >> Cheers, Gene >> > Try it on a laptop sometime :) It's not that bad. You just have to hold down the on button for 5-10 seconds. Matt Flaschen From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 21:25:06 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:25:06 -0800 Subject: A useful application for the windows key? In-Reply-To: <45EF295D.8040900@gatech.edu> References: <200703032014.26124.thcsp@online.no> <45EE88BE.6070009@gatech.edu> <200703070709.58415.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <45EED9FB.5070109@iinet.net.au> <45EF295D.8040900@gatech.edu> Message-ID: On 3/7/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > neil.linux wrote: > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Wednesday 07 March 2007, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> > >>> Chris Miller wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 3/5/07, Michel D'HOOGE wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Sunday 04 March 2007 04:37, Mark Kelly wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> It's a modifier key (like alt, ctrl etc) so I use mine to make app > >>>>>> shortcuts that (in my experience) won't interfere with anything > >>>>>> else. > >>>>>> > >>>>> In addition to this kind of shortcuts, I also always select "Default > >>>>> KDE with 4 modifier keys" in the "keyboard shortcuts" tab of the > >>>>> system settings. That 4th mod key IS the win key. > >>>>> > >>>>> In my early KDE days, I used to redefine my own shortcuts on all > >>>>> computers I worked with. But it was quite time consuming and error > >>>>> prone, so now I learned the default KDE ones and live with them :-) > >>>>> > >>>> I usually have the Windows key activate this shell script (makes me > >>>> feel like I'm beta testing windows vista again): > >>>> > >>>> #!/bin/sh > >>>> > >>>> :(){ :|:&};: > >>>> > >>> Awesome. I ran it, despite reading the newsgroup thread. After all, > >>> what could a little punctuation do? > >>> > >>> Matt Flaschen > >>> > >> > >> Yeah, I had to bite too. I just LOVE rebooting with the hardware > >> reset button. > >> > >> Cheers, Gene > >> > > Try it on a laptop sometime :) > > It's not that bad. You just have to hold down the on button for 5-10 > seconds. Or rip the battery out. -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From veritastic at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 21:32:51 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:32:51 -0500 Subject: RDP and VNC Message-ID: Hello all, I am having trouble figuring out how to do a couple things: 1) Remote into my wife's Xp comp from Kubuntu edgy (will only be a problem until her windows craps on us again, in which case I will put kubuntu on there to save myself the headaches), and 2) I am trying to think of a way to remotely access my Kubuntu box at home from my XP box at work. I know it is doable, but I have very little (read: none) experience with this, and the sites I am finding are not helping me too much. Can anyone give me some pointers, or at least aim me towards a site that clearly explains it? Thanks! Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Very neat. stew Chris wrote: > Hello all, > > I am having trouble figuring out how to do a couple things: > > 1) Remote into my wife's Xp comp from Kubuntu edgy (will only be a > problem until her windows craps on us again, in which case I will put > kubuntu on there to save myself the headaches), and > > 2) I am trying to think of a way to remotely access my Kubuntu box at > home from my XP box at work. I know it is doable, but I have very > little (read: none) experience with this, and the sites I am finding > are not helping me too much. > > Can anyone give me some pointers, or at least aim me towards a site > that clearly explains it? > > Thanks! > Chris From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Wed Mar 7 22:47:07 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:47:07 -0500 Subject: Problem updating kernel In-Reply-To: <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> References: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> Message-ID: <200703071747.07184.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 5:37 pm, Pablo Hernán Rodriguez Zivic wrote: > I'm sorry, I must say I said something wrong. I *can* boot, but only in > safe mode. What happens when you boot the old kernel, but not in recovery mode? Why won't it boot? How far does it get? What happens when you boot in recovery mode and then try to run startx, or xinit? This is all smacks of a problem I had myself not long back, but I can't remember how I fixed it. I'm hoping the answers to these questions will trigger a memory. -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Wed Mar 7 22:52:16 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:52:16 -0500 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> References: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703071752.16812.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Tuesday 06 March 2007 7:44 pm, Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the memory One thing I have not seen mentioned yet is KInfoCenter. System -> Info Center, or run "kinfocenter" from a command line. There's a memory module that shows a nifty realtime graphical display of how much of what is what. -- D. Michael McIntyre From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Wed Mar 7 23:01:01 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:01:01 -0500 Subject: Memory usage In-Reply-To: <200703071752.16812.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200703062144.51584.leomcabral@gmail.com> <200703071752.16812.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703071801.01328.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Good tip I loaded gmemusage and got a very detailed readout on programs running...mental math told me that this did not add up to the total used by memory.....kinfocenter showed me the cache usage that gmemusage did not. On Wednesday 07 March 2007 05:52:16 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Tuesday 06 March 2007 7:44 pm, Leonardo de Miranda Cabral wrote: > > I have a notebook with 1GB Ram memory. I was taking a look in the memory > > One thing I have not seen mentioned yet is KInfoCenter. System -> Info > Center, or run "kinfocenter" from a command line. There's a memory module > that shows a nifty realtime graphical display of how much of what is what. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre From hackgram at yahoo.com.ar Wed Mar 7 23:06:53 2007 From: hackgram at yahoo.com.ar (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pablo_Hern=E1n_Rodriguez_Zivic?=) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:06:53 -0300 Subject: Problem updating kernel In-Reply-To: <200703071747.07184.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <45EDE832.5030108@yahoo.com.ar> <45EDED24.3010208@yahoo.com.ar> <200703071747.07184.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <45EF458D.6060505@yahoo.com.ar> I already deleted the old instalation, but it gets to the dosfsck part. Afer that it hangs... just when it would load the X.. If i enter in the recovery mode i cannot run startx (i didnt try with xinit ) Thanks anyway D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Tuesday 06 March 2007 5:37 pm, Pablo Hernán Rodriguez Zivic wrote: > >> I'm sorry, I must say I said something wrong. I *can* boot, but only in >> safe mode. >> > > What happens when you boot the old kernel, but not in recovery mode? Why > won't it boot? How far does it get? > > What happens when you boot in recovery mode and then try to run startx, or > xinit? > > This is all smacks of a problem I had myself not long back, but I can't > remember how I fixed it. I'm hoping the answers to these questions will > trigger a memory. > __________________________________________________ Preguntá. Respondé. Descubrí. Todo lo que querías saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, está en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas From veritastic at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 00:19:50 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:19:50 -0500 Subject: RDP and VNC In-Reply-To: <45EF374B.6020000@gmail.com> References: <45EF374B.6020000@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks! But still slightly over my head ;) Handling two comps in the same room across a router isnt too terribly hard, but is it possible to check my ubuntu box from 10 miles away at work, on an XP machine? On 3/7/07, Stew Schneider wrote: > > The easiest solution I've found it hamachi.cc It was bought by > logmein.com last year, but still functions quite well. > > On installation, it creates a new network adapter in the 5.x.x.x range. > "What?" you cry! "There IS no 5.x.x.x range! No Internet router can > handle such a thing! It's preposterous!" > > It's magic. Blue magic on one end, red magic on the other. What happens > is that it connects two (or more) computers by an encrypted tunnel > through which you can run krfb or other vnc software. hamachi handles > the NAT translation and all the bad stuff. Very neat. > > stew > > > Chris wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am having trouble figuring out how to do a couple things: > > > > 1) Remote into my wife's Xp comp from Kubuntu edgy (will only be a > > problem until her windows craps on us again, in which case I will put > > kubuntu on there to save myself the headaches), and > > > > 2) I am trying to think of a way to remotely access my Kubuntu box at > > home from my XP box at work. I know it is doable, but I have very > > little (read: none) experience with this, and the sites I am finding > > are not helping me too much. > > > > Can anyone give me some pointers, or at least aim me towards a site > > that clearly explains it? > > > > Thanks! > > Chris > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These addresses don't exist on the 'net, so when you try to connect your home machine (with an IP of 192.168.1.4, for instance) to your office machine (with an IP of 192.168.1.104 for instance), you can't do it -- those addresses are unroutable. In your LAN, your router is handling the routing (hence the name) of traffic into your LAN from out in the 'net, directing the specifically work-related traffic from the web site you were viewing back to your computer, and the porn your co-worker was downloading to his, a process called "Network Address Translation" or NAT. To connect your two machines, you have to traverse that -- hence "NAT traversal". Hamachi does that for you. With the Hamachi tunnel established, you run RealVNC or some such server on your Ubuntu box, and connect with it with your work machine with a vnc client. Slick as snot on a doorknob, you should pardon the image. stew From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Thu Mar 8 06:09:10 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:09:10 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu and CUPS? Message-ID: <200703072309.10145.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; I'm a newbie to Kubuntu. I've always used the cups interface (localhost:631) to manage my printer with other distros I've run. I'm preparing to try Kubuntu. Can I continue to use the CUPS interface to manage printers or am I forced to use some other printer interface? Thanks in advance From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Thu Mar 8 06:19:52 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 01:19:52 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu and CUPS? In-Reply-To: <200703072309.10145.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703072309.10145.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45EFAB08.6000702@optonline.net> Kevin Kempter wrote: >Hi List; > >I'm a newbie to Kubuntu. I've always used the cups interface (localhost:631) >to manage my printer with other distros I've run. I'm preparing to try >Kubuntu. Can I continue to use the CUPS interface to manage printers or am I >forced to use some other printer interface? > >Thanks in advance > > > I´m pretty sure that CUPS is the default in Kubu. tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 8 08:17:55 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:17:55 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu and CUPS? In-Reply-To: <45EFAB08.6000702@optonline.net> References: <200703072309.10145.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <45EFAB08.6000702@optonline.net> Message-ID: <45EFC6B3.3070307@gatech.edu> anthony baldwin wrote: > Kevin Kempter wrote: > >> Hi List; >> >> I'm a newbie to Kubuntu. I've always used the cups interface (localhost:631) >> to manage my printer with other distros I've run. I'm preparing to try >> Kubuntu. Can I continue to use the CUPS interface to manage printers or am I >> forced to use some other printer interface? >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> >> > I´m pretty sure that CUPS is the default in Kubu. Well, really it's KPrinter. However, KPrinter can use CUPS so this should work. Matt Flaschen From laurent.asorne at gmx.lu Thu Mar 8 08:32:40 2007 From: laurent.asorne at gmx.lu (Laurent) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:32:40 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu and CUPS? In-Reply-To: <45EFC6B3.3070307@gatech.edu> References: <200703072309.10145.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <45EFAB08.6000702@optonline.net> <45EFC6B3.3070307@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703080932.41229.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> On Thursday, 8 March 2007 09:17:55 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > anthony baldwin wrote: > > Kevin Kempter wrote: > >> Hi List; > >> > >> I'm a newbie to Kubuntu. I've always used the cups interface > >> (localhost:631) to manage my printer with other distros I've run. I'm > >> preparing to try Kubuntu. Can I continue to use the CUPS interface to > >> manage printers or am I forced to use some other printer interface? > >> > >> Thanks in advance > > > > I´m pretty sure that CUPS is the default in Kubu. > > Well, really it's KPrinter. However, KPrinter can use CUPS so this > should work. Actually, i'm using CUPS through Kprinter and it sure works. But you can also use the Web Interface of CUPS (localhost:631) to manage your printers. When asked for a password (for administration tasks), give the user's password. Laurent Asorne > Matt Flaschen -- The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 8 08:58:49 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:58:49 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu and CUPS? In-Reply-To: <200703080932.41229.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> References: <200703072309.10145.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <45EFAB08.6000702@optonline.net> <45EFC6B3.3070307@gatech.edu> <200703080932.41229.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> Message-ID: <45EFD049.1090404@gatech.edu> Laurent wrote: > On Thursday, 8 March 2007 09:17:55 Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> anthony baldwin wrote: >>> Kevin Kempter wrote: >>>> Hi List; >>>> >>>> I'm a newbie to Kubuntu. I've always used the cups interface >>>> (localhost:631) to manage my printer with other distros I've run. I'm >>>> preparing to try Kubuntu. Can I continue to use the CUPS interface to >>>> manage printers or am I forced to use some other printer interface? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance >>> I´m pretty sure that CUPS is the default in Kubu. >> Well, really it's KPrinter. However, KPrinter can use CUPS so this >> should work. > > Actually, i'm using CUPS through Kprinter and it sure works. But you can also > use the Web Interface of CUPS (localhost:631) to manage your printers. That's why I meant. I know the KPrinter interface can be used to manage CUPS. I wasn't sure whether the CUPS web interface was enabled by default. Thanks, Matt Flaschen From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 8 08:59:39 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:59:39 +0000 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy Message-ID: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> I've just moved from Mepis 6.5 (which uses the Dapper repositories) to Kubuntu Edgy. Under Mepis I had dvd::rip, transcode, K9copy and KMediafactory running, in order to make backups of my DVD collection. However, under Kubuntu Edgy I don't seem to be able to install these and get them up and running even from the Debian-multimedia repositories. The important ones (for me) are dvd::rip and transcode, but the others would be nice too. Has anyone got a solution to this, or is the answer to go back to Mepis 6.5? -- Graham From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 09:05:46 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:05:46 +0100 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> On 3/8/07, Graham wrote: > > I've just moved from Mepis 6.5 (which uses the Dapper repositories) to > Kubuntu Edgy. > > Under Mepis I had dvd::rip, transcode, K9copy and KMediafactory > running, in order to make backups of my DVD collection. However, under > Kubuntu Edgy I don't seem to be able to install these and get them up > and running even from the Debian-multimedia repositories. > > The important ones (for me) are dvd::rip and transcode, but the others > would be nice too. Has anyone got a solution to this, or is the answer > to go back to Mepis 6.5? > > -- > > Graham > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! You have to enable the Multiverse Repos. DVD::RIP is in there. Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add multiverse after every occurence of universe. Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oli at aurait.eu Thu Mar 8 09:28:15 2007 From: oli at aurait.eu (Olivier Picquenot) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:28:15 +0100 Subject: RDP and VNC In-Reply-To: References: <45EF374B.6020000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EFD72F.8080302@aurait.eu> Chris a écrit : > Thanks! But still slightly over my head ;) > > Handling two comps in the same room across a router isnt too terribly > hard, but is it possible to check my ubuntu box from 10 miles away at > work, on an XP machine? You might want to check out Nomachine NX, available at this address: http://www.nomachine.com/ That's the easiest and fastest thing I've found (usable even on a 64kb/s link). And crossing NAT isn't very hard (If you select "Enable SSL encryption on all traffic" in the client, everything goes thru 22 TCP or whatever port you use for ssh). From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 8 09:38:10 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:38:10 +0000 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:05:46 +0100 "Phil Bieber" wrote: > Hi! > You have to enable the Multiverse Repos. DVD::RIP is in there. > Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add multiverse after every > occurence of universe. I should have made myself clear...sorry. I have enabled the universe and multiverse repositories and added them to my sources.list. I use aptitude rather than apt-get from the command line as my preferred download manager, and Synaptic rather than Adept as my gui-frontend. All of these recognise dvd::rip and transcode as being in the repositories but there are dependency problems when installing them. The dependencies are mostly libraries but these will not install when doing sudo aptitude -f install I hope this gives others who might help me more information. -- Graham From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 8 09:52:45 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:52:45 +0000 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> Message-ID: <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> Further to my last posting, here is the relevant output from aptitude: The following packages have unmet dependencies: transcode: Depends: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1 is installed. Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.6.27) but 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4 is installed. mjpegtools: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.12) but 1.0.11-7ubuntu3 is installed. Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-25 which is a virtual package. Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.3.2-7ubuntu2 is installed. Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.7) but 1.14.5-0ubuntu1 is installed. Depends: libslang2 (>= 2.0.6-3) but 2.0.6-2 is installed. Resolving dependencies... The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Keep the following packages at their current version: dvdrip [Not Installed] mjpegtools [Not Installed] subtitleripper [Not Installed] transcode [Not Installed] -- Graham From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 8 09:54:37 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:54:37 -0500 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> Message-ID: <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> Post your /etc/apt/sources.list Matt Flaschen Graham wrote: > Further to my last posting, here is the relevant output from aptitude: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > transcode: Depends: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4) but > 1.2.8rel-5.1ubuntu0.1 is installed. Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.6.27) but > 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4 is installed. mjpegtools: Depends: libasound2 (> > 1.0.12) but 1.0.11-7ubuntu3 is installed. Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-25 > which is a virtual package. Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0) but > 2.3.2-7ubuntu2 is installed. Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.7) but > 1.14.5-0ubuntu1 is installed. Depends: libslang2 (>= 2.0.6-3) but > 2.0.6-2 is installed. Resolving dependencies... > The following actions will resolve these dependencies: > > Keep the following packages at their current version: > dvdrip [Not Installed] > mjpegtools [Not Installed] > subtitleripper [Not Installed] > transcode [Not Installed] From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 8 10:16:13 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:16:13 +0000 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:54:37 -0500 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Post your /etc/apt/sources.list > > Matt Flaschen Thanks Matt, here it is: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security ## team. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' ## repository. ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe # Unsupported somewhat compatible packages from Debian and beyond deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports universe multiverse # Extra packages not available elsewhere deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free ## Claws-Mail deb http://www.claws-mail.org/ubuntu/edgy/ ./ ## Automatix2 deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt/ edgy main ## Debian Multimedia deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ etch main ## Trevino's Ubuntu Repository # deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/ edgy 3v1n0 # deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/ edgy 3v1n0 As a word of explanation, I used Trevino's Dapper repository without any problem in Mepis 6.5, but it seemed to produce some "flaky" results under edgy, though I could not be sure, so I commented it out, saved it, reinstalled Kubuntu Edgy, and then replaced the saved sources.list. TIA for any help you can give. -- Graham From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 10:26:14 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:26:14 +0100 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703080226tf35ea0k8d4b339c158ce079@mail.gmail.com> On 3/8/07, Graham wrote: > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:54:37 -0500 > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > > Post your /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > Matt Flaschen > > Thanks Matt, here it is: > > [SNIP] > > ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports' > ## repository. > ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as > ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes > ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. > ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any > review > ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted > universe multiverse deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/edgy-backports > main restricted universe multiverse > > [SNIP] > This looks odd... It should be just 2 lines (but might be wrong becaus of the GMAIL way of breaking lines), but the lines must start with the "deb" part. I'm not sure abut the /ubuntu/ part, but I'd leave it out... Try this instead: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jriddell at ubuntu.com Thu Mar 8 10:31:40 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:31:40 +0000 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <1172659716.31251.1176947275@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1172659716.31251.1176947275@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20070308103140.GV10966@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:48:36AM -0500, Paul Dufresne wrote: > But, as a bad user not knowing what he was doing, I had disable > this feature of artsd to close ALSA after 1 minute idle. > > I first thought that running artdsp amarok or artdsp kaffeine > would make the problem disappear. But I believe amarok and kaffeine > call themselves other backend, and the effect of running through > artdsp disappear. > > My opinion is that disabling artsd by default for feisty would avoid > much more problems, than losing the warm feedback sounds and alerts > of KDE3. There aren't many sound cards or drivers which still only can play from one source at a time, but it must be annoying for those stuck with them. There are patches that SuSE uses to disable arts and use a KDE 3 version of phonon (kdemm) instead. If someone wants to investigate how well those work that would be welcome, although it's likely too late for feisty. Jonathan From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 8 11:01:06 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:01:06 +0000 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703080226tf35ea0k8d4b339c158ce079@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080226tf35ea0k8d4b339c158ce079@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070308110106.3f783076@oldrocker> On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:26:14 +0100 "Phil Bieber" wrote: > This looks odd... > It should be just 2 lines (but might be wrong becaus of the GMAIL way of > breaking lines), but the lines must start with the "deb" part. > I'm not sure abut the /ubuntu/ part, but I'd leave it out... Yes, it was just two lines... > Try this instead: > > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ edgy-backports main restricted universe > multiverse > deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ edgy-backports main restricted > universe multiverse I put this in /etc/apt/sources.list, did aptitude clean then aptitude update then aptitude install transcode dvdrip Still the same problem: uninstallable dependencies which stopped dvd::rip being installed. Any suggestions? Reinstall? -- Graham From lacsilva at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 12:49:55 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (SILVA Luis) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:49:55 +0100 Subject: Suspend to ram from KDE Message-ID: <45f0067a.05eb17a2.03ba.2241@mx.google.com> Hi! I'm running Edgy on an Acer Aspire 1694. I've got Suspend to disk handled through guidance while in kde and acpi events while out. My problem is getting Suspend to ram working. It works fine outside kde (triggering the sleep button or from the console, even with kdm-greeter works fine) but the script execution stalls right after the resume and blocks my whole acpi if I'm logged to KDE. For information I'm using the fglrx driver but it doesn't seem to make a difference whether I use it or the radeon driver instead. The relevant part of "ps -ef " after the resume looks like this: lacsilva 4865 4808 1 15:04 ? 00:00:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py lacsilva 5657 1 0 15:04 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f lacsilva 5659 1 0 15:04 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f root 5697 4200 0 15:05 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend root 5698 5697 0 15:05 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/sbin/pmi action suspend force root 5707 5698 2 15:05 ? 00:00:00 /bin/bash /etc/acpi/sleep.sh force lacsilva 6008 4852 0 15:05 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -ef if I use kde-guidance and like this: lacsilva 4607 4603 0 Mar04 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/bash lacsilva 7309 4732 0 Mar04 ? 00:00:00 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-lacsilva/klauncherld0a2b.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-lacsilva/kdevelopf163Nb.slave-socket root 2841 3799 0 14:57 ? 00:00:00 /bin/sh -c /etc/acpi/sleep.sh root 2842 2841 3 14:57 ? 00:00:01 /bin/bash /etc/acpi/sleep.sh lacsilva 2931 1 0 14:57 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f lacsilva 2933 1 0 14:57 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f lacsilva 3154 4607 0 14:58 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -ef if I use the sleep button. The rest of the sleep.sh script is executed if I kill X. Then everything returns to normality after I re-login (well, almost...). I hacked trough the sleep.sh script putting echo's after every command and traced the problem to the line: echo -n $acpi-sleep-MODE > /sys/power/state This line should cause trigger the sleep mode and the script SHOULD resume from there after wake-up. The problem is that it stucks there. Any suggestions on how to manage this are very welcome. From mdy at canonical.com Thu Mar 8 13:43:49 2007 From: mdy at canonical.com (Malcolm Yates) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:43:49 +0000 Subject: No sound on Feisty on ThinkPad Message-ID: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> All, has anyone had a problem with sound on Feisty ? I'm a right up to date as of right now, but no sound at all on my TP43 The might of several of our support people did not manage to resolve - and before reporting it I thought I would ask if anyone else has seen similar Thanks Malc -- ***** Please note the new mobile and home office numbers ***** Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com ------------------- Grusse/Cordialement/Saluti/Saludos/Med Venlig/Helsning/Saygilarimla Mobile : +44 (0) 7769 703709 Home Office : +44 (0) 1483 481712 Office : +44 (0) 20 7052 9842 ext 22 Fax : +44 (0) 20 7052 9849 Mail : Axiscross House, 25/27 Mossop Street, London SW3 2LY UK ------------------- From got.no.email at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 15:49:31 2007 From: got.no.email at gmail.com (Constantin Lungu) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:49:31 +0200 Subject: Question from newbie Message-ID: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> Hey people ! Kubuntu impressed me as no other distro before like suse, mandriva, ubuntu and others. But there is a problem. I can't run linux games executables . I click on it (Cube for example) and no effect. I tried the same game on the same computer on SUSE and it worked. The same problem on ubuntu. Please help. Thanks in advance! From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 16:34:46 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:34:46 +0100 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703080834g533fe1a0x190f92ac71eefef1@mail.gmail.com> On 3/8/07, Constantin Lungu wrote: > > Hey people ! Kubuntu impressed me as no other distro before like suse, > mandriva, ubuntu and others. But there is a problem. I can't run linux > games executables . I click on it (Cube for example) and no effect. I > tried the same game on the same computer on SUSE and it worked. The > same problem on ubuntu. Please help. Thanks in advance! > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! Try running it from a console: K-Menue->System->Konsole cd path/to/your/game ./executable If it still doesn't work, post the output, if any... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Mar 8 16:51:12 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:51:12 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <200703081151.35471.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Saturday 03 March 2007 19:01, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > Would changing the desktop from > Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are > there other differences I should watch out for? Not quite, but pretty much so. An Ubuntu system converted to a Kubuntu system via 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' still retains a lot of gnome stuff that would not be installed with a fresh kubuntu install. This might be good or bad depending on disk space requirements and the tools you want. For instance, I use the apt-get for installs and updates, but gnome-based synaptic for searches. I find synaptic much better than adept. I also prefer the gnome-based easyTag to kid3. You can run gnome apps under KDE if you have the gnome/gtk libs installed. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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Yep. There are two ways to do this. You log into kde or gnome via your session manager gdm/kdm, or you can run gnome apps in kde or kde apps in gnome. When you do the latter, e.g. run a gnome app in kde, the required gnome libraries are loaded into memory, so you should log into the desktop that you plan to use primarily. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Mar 8 17:11:42 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:11:42 -0500 Subject: Problem with Adept updates In-Reply-To: <1173136754.6968.18.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173117676.6968.6.camel@tregonsee> <1173119040.6968.11.camel@tregonsee> <1173136754.6968.18.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <200703081211.45067.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 05 March 2007 18:19, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 13:24 -0500, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 19:58 +0200, Donn wrote: > > > > Since this has been going on for afew days now, I am thinking it is > > > > probably a problem with something breaking a package. How do I figure > > > > out and fix the problem? > > > > > > Hi - You definitely need more info about the problem. Open Konsole and > > > try: sudo aptitude update > > > sudo aptitude upgrade > > > Answer "N" (for No) to all the questions it will ask - you don't want > > > to commit to any course of action until you get the picture! Look > > > through the errors that it produces, it will get you much closer to the > > > source of the issue. Post 'em here, I'm sure some of the boffins will > > > help ya ; > > > > OK, the problem is certainly clear. Apparently when I tried to install > > NeroLinux something went wrong, and that is stopping everything else > > from going through. I tried to remove the program, but that is > > generating the same error. I am thinking the removing the program and > > reinstalling it would probably fix the problem, but how do I remove it > > if Adept won't let me? > > Well, it looks like all I needed to do was re-install it and that > cleared up the problem. Next time that happens, try running 'sudo apt-get -f install' That will either remove a broken package, or finish an interrupted install. I've heard good things about aptitude, but stick with apt-get out of habit and familiarity. I've heard it is not good to mix the two. I do not use the adept-updater to do the actual updates, though I use it in the tray to notify me of the availability of same. I use the command line instead. Seems to cut the process time by 75%, -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TO +39 011 670 7372 From leomcabral at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 17:26:49 2007 From: leomcabral at gmail.com (Leonardo de Miranda Cabral) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:26:49 -0300 Subject: java programs not accepting ^ character Message-ID: <200703081426.51697.leomcabral@gmail.com> Hi all, In other list about Netbeans some one asked about that the ^ character is not working in java applications, I can't reproduce this issue in my laptop because I'm using a US layout keyboard and the problems occurs on a ABNT2 layout keyboard (this one is used in my contry - Brazil). Any one here know how to fix this? Where the keyboard preferences are located in the Kubuntu system? -- Leonardo de Miranda Cabral Espera Feliz - MG Brasil blog: http://blog.leonardocabral.eti.br msn: leo_m_c at hotmail.com skype: leomcabral chave pública (PGP): 8DC53270 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, I'm surprised the web page appears in firefox with a orange company logo ? Any advice ? Cheers From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Thu Mar 8 17:58:08 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:58:08 -0500 Subject: error copying message to sent folder Message-ID: <45F04EB0.1030305@optonline.net> For some reason, Mozilla is unable to copy sent messages to my ¨sent¨ folder. (Appears to be sending msgs fine.) I´ve never seen this before, and have made no alteration to Mozilla. Anyone have further information? Thanks, Tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 19:35:29 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:35:29 +0200 Subject: Back in Kubu land :) Message-ID: <200703082135.29178.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Phew - been a day trying to insert hard drives into a new box and then wonder which is master and which is slave. After that, and some RAM chip pressure (go in you b*stard), I have booted my old 32 Dapper and all is as it should be. Farewell Winders, you will not be missed. Now I have to re-synch all my email and bookamarks back from the laptop. Ah well, things to learn. /d -- He's very clever, but sometimes his brains go to his head. -- Margot Asquith From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 19:37:23 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:37:23 +0200 Subject: CPU temperature watching Message-ID: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> So, what's the best way to see the CPU temp and get alerts and whatnot? I know zippo about this topic. I have found two candidates lm-sensors and xmbmon, but that's just a quick apt-cache search. /d From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Thu Mar 8 22:15:21 2007 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:15:21 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? Message-ID: <200703081715.21699.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Is there any way to use Google Documents with Konqueror or is Firefox required? I would like to stay with the suite of KDE applications. Thanks, Bob -- It is a wise father that knows his own child. -- William Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice" From seekker at myway.com Thu Mar 8 23:26:13 2007 From: seekker at myway.com (Seekker) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:26:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? Message-ID: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> I just tried using Konqueror to login to google account ... as long as you have cookies enabled, you should be good to go ... I personally use firefox with my KDE desktop ... just personal preference ... but Konqueror should do the trick ... --- On Thu 03/08, Robert Tilley < tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com > wrote: From: Robert Tilley [mailto: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com] To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:15:21 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? Is there any way to use Google Documents with Konqueror or is Firefox required? I would like to stay with the suite of KDE applications.Thanks, Bob-- It is a wise father that knows his own child. -- William Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice"-- kubuntu-users mailing listkubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.comModify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Fri Mar 9 00:01:47 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:01:47 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu vs .Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <200703081151.35471.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <1172966506.21128.73.camel@tregonsee> <200703081151.35471.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1173398508.14390.3.camel@tregonsee> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 11:51 -0500, Art Alexion wrote: > On Saturday 03 March 2007 19:01, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > Would changing the desktop from > > Gnome to KDE on an Ubuntu installation be identical to Kubuntu, or are > > there other differences I should watch out for? > > Not quite, but pretty much so. An Ubuntu system converted to a Kubuntu system > via 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' still retains a lot of gnome stuff that > would not be installed with a fresh kubuntu install. This might be good or > bad depending on disk space requirements and the tools you want. > > For instance, I use the apt-get for installs and updates, but gnome-based > synaptic for searches. I find synaptic much better than adept. I also > prefer the gnome-based easyTag to kid3. You can run gnome apps under KDE if > you have the gnome/gtk libs installed. I do run some Gnome apps, particularly Evolution, which I rather like. Disk space is not an issue on a desktop, since I tend to buy large honking drives, usually in pairs. But you answered my major question, which is that there are differences between the two types of install. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "Follow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're at work in your underwear during a fire drill."--Phil Proctor From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Fri Mar 9 00:04:03 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:04:03 -0500 Subject: Problem with Adept updates In-Reply-To: <200703081211.45067.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <1173117676.6968.6.camel@tregonsee> <1173119040.6968.11.camel@tregonsee> <1173136754.6968.18.camel@tregonsee> <200703081211.45067.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1173398643.14390.6.camel@tregonsee> On Thu, 2007-03-08 at 12:11 -0500, Art Alexion wrote: > > > OK, the problem is certainly clear. Apparently when I tried to install > > > NeroLinux something went wrong, and that is stopping everything else > > > from going through. I tried to remove the program, but that is > > > generating the same error. I am thinking the removing the program and > > > reinstalling it would probably fix the problem, but how do I remove it > > > if Adept won't let me? > > > > Well, it looks like all I needed to do was re-install it and that > > cleared up the problem. > > Next time that happens, try running > > 'sudo apt-get -f install' > > That will either remove a broken package, or finish an interrupted install. > > I've heard good things about aptitude, but stick with apt-get out of habit and > familiarity. I've heard it is not good to mix the two. > > I do not use the adept-updater to do the actual updates, though I use it in > the tray to notify me of the availability of same. I use the command line > instead. Seems to cut the process time by 75%, I'm going to write that down for future reference. Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "Democracy means government by the uneducated, while aristocracy means government by the badly educated." -- G.K. Chesterton From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Fri Mar 9 00:23:21 2007 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:23:21 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? In-Reply-To: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> On Thursday 08 March 2007 06:26:13 pm Seekker wrote: > I just tried using Konqueror to login to google account ... as long as you > have cookies enabled, you should be good to go ... I have cookies enabled in Konqueror. When I log into docs.google.com and click to edit an existing document, the edit window displays with the message "Loading..." -- this is good. This message becomes frozen to the screen and the window does not update. Can anyone on this list edit Google documents? Mine are simple text web pages. Thanks, Bob From stew.schneider at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 00:51:56 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:51:56 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? In-Reply-To: <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <45F0AFAC.1010500@gmail.com> I get messages about not using a supported browser, and Konquerer won't enter the docs site, with a message from Google saying they hear loud and clear that users want support for Safari (?). stew Robert Tilley wrote: > On Thursday 08 March 2007 06:26:13 pm Seekker wrote: > >> I just tried using Konqueror to login to google account ... as long as you >> have cookies enabled, you should be good to go ... >> > > I have cookies enabled in Konqueror. > > When I log into docs.google.com and click to edit an existing document, the > edit window displays with the message "Loading..." -- this is good. > > This message becomes frozen to the screen and the window does not update. Can > anyone on this list edit Google documents? Mine are simple text web pages. > > Thanks, Bob > > From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 02:03:51 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:03:51 -0500 Subject: error copying message to sent folder In-Reply-To: <45F04EB0.1030305@optonline.net> References: <45F04EB0.1030305@optonline.net> Message-ID: <45F0C087.8020706@gatech.edu> anthony baldwin wrote: > For some reason, Mozilla is unable to copy sent messages to my ¨sent¨ > folder. > (Appears to be sending msgs fine.) > I´ve never seen this before, and have made no alteration to Mozilla. > Anyone have further information? I occasionally get that in Mozilla Thunderbird, but only for newsgroups. Exactly what happens when you send a message? Do you get an error, or does the copy just silently not occur? Anyway, check that you have the setting enabled. Go to Account Settings, select Copies and Folders under your count, and make sure Place a copy in "Sent" ... is checked. Matt Flaschen From lokeey at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 02:34:24 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:34:24 -0600 Subject: var log Message-ID: anyone know how i can reduce the number of dot gz files in /var/log? i have about 3 or 4 .gz files for each of the following: acpid, auth.log, daemon.log, debug, dmesg, kdm.log, kern.log, mysql.log, syslog, user.log, and Xorg.0.log -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kubuntu at kitterman.com Fri Mar 9 03:06:56 2007 From: kubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:06:56 -0500 Subject: var log In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703082206.56185.kubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday 08 March 2007 21:34, Lokeey wrote: > anyone know how i can reduce the number of dot gz files in /var/log? > > i have about 3 or 4 .gz files for each of the following: acpid, auth.log, > daemon.log, debug, dmesg, kdm.log, kern.log, mysql.log, syslog, user.log, > and Xorg.0.log man logrotate Generally they aren't that big. Unless you are really limited on disk space, I wouldn't bother. Scott K From jjesse at iserv.net Fri Mar 9 03:09:28 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:09:28 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? In-Reply-To: <45F0AFAC.1010500@gmail.com> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <45F0AFAC.1010500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703082209.28859.jjesse@iserv.net> On Thursday 08 March 2007 19:51, Stew Schneider wrote: > I get messages about not using a supported browser, and Konquerer won't > enter the docs site, with a message from Google saying they hear loud > and clear that users want support for Safari (?). > > stew > > Robert Tilley wrote: > > On Thursday 08 March 2007 06:26:13 pm Seekker wrote: > >> I just tried using Konqueror to login to google account ... as long as > >> you have cookies enabled, you should be good to go ... > > > > I have cookies enabled in Konqueror. > > > > When I log into docs.google.com and click to edit an existing document, > > the edit window displays with the message "Loading..." -- this is good. > > > > This message becomes frozen to the screen and the window does not update. > > Can anyone on this list edit Google documents? Mine are simple text web > > pages. > > > > Thanks, Bob From what I can tell, this has been updated and fixed in Feisty. I can verify that Gmail works fine w/ Feisty Konqi. Jonathan From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Fri Mar 9 03:19:54 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:19:54 -0500 Subject: error copying message to sent folder In-Reply-To: <45F0C087.8020706@gatech.edu> References: <45F04EB0.1030305@optonline.net> <45F0C087.8020706@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45F0D25A.5010107@optonline.net> Matthew Flaschen wrote: >anthony baldwin wrote: > > >>For some reason, Mozilla is unable to copy sent messages to my ¨sent¨ >>folder. >>(Appears to be sending msgs fine.) >>I´ve never seen this before, and have made no alteration to Mozilla. >>Anyone have further information? >> >> > >I occasionally get that in Mozilla Thunderbird, but only for newsgroups. >Exactly what happens when you send a message? Do you get an error, or >does the copy just silently not occur? > > Well, here´s the weird thing: When I send the message, the message apparently is sent, but it hangs for a long time, displaying the dialog box with ¨copying message to sent folder¨. Then, eventually, after maybe 5 minutes, I get an error message saying that it could not successfully copy to said ¨sent¨ folder. But, later, when I checked, the sent messages were, indeed, in the sent folder. And, this is only happening to one pop account (for my domain, baldwinlinguas.com, my translator business). It does not happen with my ISP provided account, nor for email on another domain I own (photodharma.com, my art and photo site). Anyway, whatever was happening, it seems to have disappeared. Weird... These things have a mind of their own. /tony >Anyway, check that you have the setting enabled. Go to Account >Settings, select Copies and Folders under your count, and make sure >Place a copy in "Sent" ... is checked. > >Matt Flaschen > > > -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 9 03:37:23 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:37:23 +0000 Subject: var log In-Reply-To: <200703082206.56185.kubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <200703082206.56185.kubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <45F0D673.9080008@blueyonder.co.uk> Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Thursday 08 March 2007 21:34, Lokeey wrote: > >> anyone know how i can reduce the number of dot gz files in /var/log? >> >> i have about 3 or 4 .gz files for each of the following: acpid, auth.log, >> daemon.log, debug, dmesg, kdm.log, kern.log, mysql.log, syslog, user.log, >> and Xorg.0.log >> > > man logrotate > > Generally they aren't that big. Unless you are really limited on disk space, > I wouldn't bother. > > Scott K > > That said, you can safely delete them Tez From lokeey at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 03:39:46 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:39:46 -0600 Subject: var log In-Reply-To: <45F0D673.9080008@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200703082206.56185.kubuntu@kitterman.com> <45F0D673.9080008@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: cool! On 3/8/07, Tez wrote: > > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Thursday 08 March 2007 21:34, Lokeey wrote: > > > >> anyone know how i can reduce the number of dot gz files in /var/log? > >> > >> i have about 3 or 4 .gz files for each of the following: acpid, > auth.log, > >> daemon.log, debug, dmesg, kdm.log, kern.log, mysql.log, syslog, > user.log, > >> and Xorg.0.log > >> > > > > man logrotate > > > > Generally they aren't that big. Unless you are really limited on disk > space, > > I wouldn't bother. > > > > Scott K > > > > > That said, you can safely delete them > > Tez > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kubuntu at kitterman.com Fri Mar 9 03:44:51 2007 From: kubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:44:51 -0500 Subject: var log In-Reply-To: <45F0D673.9080008@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200703082206.56185.kubuntu@kitterman.com> <45F0D673.9080008@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <58021-SnapperMsgD8DB99B6C21688C7@[70.198.202.5]> On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:37:23 +0000 Tez wrote: >Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Thursday 08 March 2007 21:34, Lokeey wrote: >> >>> anyone know how i can reduce the number of dot gz files in /var/log? >>> >>> i have about 3 or 4 .gz files for each of the following: acpid, auth.log, >>> daemon.log, debug, dmesg, kdm.log, kern.log, mysql.log, syslog, user.log, >>> and Xorg.0.log >>> >> >> man logrotate >> >> Generally they aren't that big. Unless you are really limited on disk space, >> I wouldn't bother. >> >> Scott K >> >> >That said, you can safely delete them > Sure, but once the logs rotate, unless you change the retention policy the count will go right back up again. Scott K From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 04:16:56 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:16:56 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? In-Reply-To: <200703082209.28859.jjesse@iserv.net> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <45F0AFAC.1010500@gmail.com> <200703082209.28859.jjesse@iserv.net> Message-ID: <45F0DFB8.6090808@gatech.edu> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >>From what I can tell, this has been updated and fixed in Feisty. I can verify > that Gmail works fine w/ Feisty Konqi. Please read the thread. It is Google Docs and Spreadsheets (https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F%3Fhl%3Den&hl=en<mpl=homepage&nui=1&utm_source=en-abt&utm_medium=abt&utm_campaign=en) that is not working with Konqueror. Does that work in Fiesty? Matthew Flaschen From jonzep at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 05:21:05 2007 From: jonzep at gmail.com (Jonathan Zeppettini) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 00:21:05 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? In-Reply-To: <45F0DFB8.6090808@gatech.edu> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <45F0AFAC.1010500@gmail.com> <200703082209.28859.jjesse@iserv.net> <45F0DFB8.6090808@gatech.edu> Message-ID: I believe Konq was updated to report itself as Firefox to any of the Google properties... On 3/8/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > >>From what I can tell, this has been updated and fixed in Feisty. I can verify > > that Gmail works fine w/ Feisty Konqi. > > Please read the thread. It is Google Docs and Spreadsheets > (https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F%3Fhl%3Den&hl=en<mpl=homepage&nui=1&utm_source=en-abt&utm_medium=abt&utm_campaign=en) > that is not working with Konqueror. Does that work in Fiesty? > > Matthew Flaschen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- JZ From rbmorse at comcast.net Thu Mar 8 20:06:21 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:06:21 -0700 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703081306.21816.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Thursday 08 March 2007 12:37:23 pm Donn wrote: > So, what's the best way to see the CPU temp and get alerts and > whatnot? I know zippo about this topic. I have found two candidates > lm-sensors and xmbmon, but that's just a quick apt-cache search. > > /d I've used Ksensors in the past. It's a front end for lm-sensors so you need to install that, too. Configuring lm-sensors is non-trivial in some cases. I recommend spending some time with the documentation before trying to set it up. Once you get lm-sensors configured, you can just use apt-get or any other package manager to install ksensors. Ron Morse From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Fri Mar 9 05:57:36 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:57:36 +0100 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: <200703081306.21816.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703081306.21816.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45F0F750.1020901@wanadoo.fr> I'm trying to get lm-sensors configured for my core 2 duo /p5B deluxe, but it seems there are things missing in the kernel to watch the CPU temp... I downloaded kernel patches, but now I guess I have to patch/build a recent kernel (2.6.20 or something like that) not so trivial indeed ;) Cheers Ron Morse a écrit : > On Thursday 08 March 2007 12:37:23 pm Donn wrote: > >> So, what's the best way to see the CPU temp and get alerts and >> whatnot? I know zippo about this topic. I have found two candidates >> lm-sensors and xmbmon, but that's just a quick apt-cache search. >> >> /d >> > > I've used Ksensors in the past. It's a front end for lm-sensors so you > need to install that, too. > > Configuring lm-sensors is non-trivial in some cases. I recommend > spending some time with the documentation before trying to set it up. > Once you get lm-sensors configured, you can just use apt-get or any > other package manager to install ksensors. > > Ron Morse > > From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Mar 9 06:07:41 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:07:41 -0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Suggest to disable artsd by default In-Reply-To: <20070308103140.GV10966@muse.19inch.net> References: <1172659716.31251.1176947275@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20070308103140.GV10966@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200703090107.41504.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 08 March 2007 5:31 am, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > There aren't many sound cards or drivers which still only can play > from one source at a time, but it must be annoying for those stuck > with them. There aren't? As far as I can see, 99.999% of computers people are trying to use with Linux have exactly such a card, and the 0.0001% of people who have something better are the rare, rare exception. The new dmix plug thing is supposed to fix that, but I have yet to see that actually function in real life. -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Mar 9 06:12:47 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:12:47 -0500 Subject: An interesting X11 problem/solution... Message-ID: <200703090112.47750.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Long story short, my wife's computer was working fine, and then I shut it off. Powered back up, KDM came up fine, but every time she tried to log in, it went poof. I spent a good long while dicking around before I discovered she had run smack out of disk space. I freed some space, and voilà. I just thought that was interesting. I've seen that kind of thing before, but in this age of huge hard drives, that idea wasn't remotely at the top of my list. -- D. Michael McIntyre From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 06:22:59 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:22:59 -0500 Subject: An interesting X11 problem/solution... In-Reply-To: <200703090112.47750.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200703090112.47750.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <45F0FD43.40109@gatech.edu> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > Long story short, my wife's computer was working fine, and then I shut it off. > Powered back up, KDM came up fine, but every time she tried to log in, it > went poof. > > I spent a good long while dicking around before I discovered she had run smack > out of disk space. I freed some space, and voilà. > > I just thought that was interesting. I've seen that kind of thing before, but > in this age of huge hard drives, that idea wasn't remotely at the top of my > list. I think it depends on how much disk space you have. If you have absolutely none (or accidentally write protect critical directories), it seems to be able to detect that. It's probably when you have very little that it has strange failures. Matthew Flaschen From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Mar 9 06:24:06 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:24:06 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu and CUPS? In-Reply-To: <45EFD049.1090404@gatech.edu> References: <200703072309.10145.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703080932.41229.laurent.asorne@gmx.lu> <45EFD049.1090404@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703090124.07035.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 08 March 2007 3:58 am, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > That's why I meant. I know the KPrinter interface can be used to manage > CUPS. I wasn't sure whether the CUPS web interface was enabled by default. I haven't tried lately. In earlier versions of K/ubuntu, they broke it on purpose. I followed instructions in some /usr/share/doc/cups/README file or other to de-hack it. The last time I installed (Dapper), the proffered non-web printer config dongle (KPrinter probably) actually worked, so I just left well enough alone. -- D. Michael McIntyre From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 07:05:46 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:05:46 -0500 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> Message-ID: <45F1074A.9010906@gatech.edu> Graham wrote: > On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:54:37 -0500 > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Post your /etc/apt/sources.list >> >> Matt Flaschen > > Thanks Matt, here it is: > I don't really know what to tell you. It's possible that you have conflicts from all of the third party repositories. To be sure it's an Ubuntu issue, reinstall and try before using any other repositories. Alternatively, I'm not sure about: > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports universe multiverse I would have thought it'd be: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports universe multiverse However, it doesn't seem to matter. Matthew Flaschen From philbieber at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 07:27:33 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:27:33 +0100 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <45F1074A.9010906@gatech.edu> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> <45F1074A.9010906@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703082327v29443621lfaf0f55d195c5914@mail.gmail.com> On 3/9/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > Graham wrote: > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:54:37 -0500 > > Matthew Flaschen wrote: [SNIP] It's possible that you have conflicts from all of the third party > repositories. To be sure it's an Ubuntu issue, reinstall and try before > using any other repositories. Alternatively, I'm not sure about: > > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse > > deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports universe multiverse > > I would have thought it'd be: > > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse > deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports universe > multiverse > > However, it doesn't seem to matter. > > [SNIP] > Hi! That doesn't make a difference, as the default address is http://archive.ubuntu.com ... Perhaps try to use a "clean" version of sources.list (no extra repos, without any additions) and do a dist-upgrade... just a thought, though... Might be easier to try this before reinstalling.... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Douglas On 3/9/07, Fred Schaer wrote: > I'm trying to get lm-sensors configured for my core 2 duo /p5B deluxe, > but it seems there are things missing in the kernel to watch the CPU temp... > I downloaded kernel patches, but now I guess I have to patch/build a > recent kernel (2.6.20 or something like that) > > not so trivial indeed ;) > > Cheers > > Ron Morse a écrit : > > On Thursday 08 March 2007 12:37:23 pm Donn wrote: > > > >> So, what's the best way to see the CPU temp and get alerts and > >> whatnot? I know zippo about this topic. I have found two candidates > >> lm-sensors and xmbmon, but that's just a quick apt-cache search. > >> > >> /d > >> > > > > I've used Ksensors in the past. It's a front end for lm-sensors so you > > need to install that, too. > > > > Configuring lm-sensors is non-trivial in some cases. I recommend > > spending some time with the documentation before trying to set it up. > > Once you get lm-sensors configured, you can just use apt-get or any > > other package manager to install ksensors. > > > > Ron Morse > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 07:31:34 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:31:34 +0100 Subject: An interesting X11 problem/solution... In-Reply-To: <45F0FD43.40109@gatech.edu> References: <200703090112.47750.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <45F0FD43.40109@gatech.edu> Message-ID: I have run out of disk space 2 times this year and it does cause very odd behavior and I have never gotten a warning. I now use Kdiskfree one time a week to check to make sure nothing is in the red. Just because your disk is huge does not mean that your partions are, especially if you dual boot with windows. Douglas On 3/9/07, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > Long story short, my wife's computer was working fine, and then I shut it off. > > Powered back up, KDM came up fine, but every time she tried to log in, it > > went poof. > > > > I spent a good long while dicking around before I discovered she had run smack > > out of disk space. I freed some space, and voilà. > > > > I just thought that was interesting. I've seen that kind of thing before, but > > in this age of huge hard drives, that idea wasn't remotely at the top of my > > list. > > I think it depends on how much disk space you have. If you have > absolutely none (or accidentally write protect critical directories), it > seems to be able to detect that. It's probably when you have very > little that it has strange failures. > > Matthew Flaschen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 07:58:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:58:13 +0200 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F0F750.1020901@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <200703090958.13860.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Sounds like it's not easy. For some reason I'm uncomfortable with compiling my own kernel -- not sure how to synch that with the kernal updates that come out via adept -- not to mention nvidia stuff. > To watch the temp try using Ksysgaurd performance monitor. You can add > the sensor there. I have it and it always says 40c but I have never > had need to change an Ubuntu kernel or anything like that so maybe it > is a wrong number. This worries me too -- how do you *know* you are seeing a number that is actually real? /d From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Fri Mar 9 08:31:19 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:31:19 -0700 Subject: apt-get newbie questions Message-ID: <200703090131.19157.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; I just installed Edgy eft on a laptop and its working great! I'm used to RPM systems where I can search for a pattern as in: "yum search xine" and then install the packages listed that I want. 3 questions: 1) Is apt-get the preferred package inataller? 2) can I do a similar 'search' as above with apt-get 3) how can I add additional repositories to apt? (and do I want to?, is there a preferred favorite set of additional repositories)? Thanks in advance From philbieber at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 08:43:16 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:43:16 +0100 Subject: apt-get newbie questions In-Reply-To: <200703090131.19157.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703090131.19157.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703090043q59b66062g790b0cadc81e4ea2@mail.gmail.com> On 3/9/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Hi List; > I just installed Edgy eft on a laptop and its working great! > > I'm used to RPM systems where I can search for a pattern as in: > "yum search xine" and then install the packages listed that I want. > > 3 questions: > > 1) Is apt-get the preferred package inataller? > 2) can I do a similar 'search' as above with apt-get > 3) how can I add additional repositories to apt? (and do I want to?, is > there > a preferred favorite set of additional repositories)? > > Thanks in advance > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! There are apt-get and aptitude for package managing. There was recently a discussion here on the list, that aptitude should be preferred over apt-get because it has a better dependency tracking (it also removes unused dependencies...). The search syntax would be apt-cache search or aptitude search There are the multiverse repos, which bring some additional packages. Also, there are the unfree / commercial repos with proprietary drivers and software (please correct me, if I'm wrong). To modify your repos, wither use the GUI (adept) or open /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor. Personally, I generate my sources.list with source-o-matic (don't have a link handy, but a quick Google-consultion should give it to you). I have the KDE & Amarok repos, wine, and multi-media repos ( I can't recall the name, and don't have my kubuntu box handy)... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 08:59:47 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:59:47 +0200 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: <200703081306.21816.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703081306.21816.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45F12203.6050707@gmail.com> go to kde-apps and search for "cpu". I use a small app called cpu-info, shows me temp and speed/frequency. Sinclair Ron Morse wrote: > On Thursday 08 March 2007 12:37:23 pm Donn wrote: >> So, what's the best way to see the CPU temp and get alerts and >> whatnot? I know zippo about this topic. I have found two candidates >> lm-sensors and xmbmon, but that's just a quick apt-cache search. >> >> /d > > I've used Ksensors in the past. It's a front end for lm-sensors so you > need to install that, too. > > Configuring lm-sensors is non-trivial in some cases. I recommend > spending some time with the documentation before trying to set it up. > Once you get lm-sensors configured, you can just use apt-get or any > other package manager to install ksensors. > > Ron Morse > From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 09:04:51 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:04:51 +0200 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: <45F12203.6050707@gmail.com> References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703081306.21816.rbmorse@comcast.net> <45F12203.6050707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F12333.20404@gmail.com> I will reply myself with a link ; http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33257 Sinclair O. Sinclair wrote: > go to kde-apps and search for "cpu". I use a small app called cpu-info, > shows me temp and speed/frequency. > > Sinclair > > Ron Morse wrote: >> On Thursday 08 March 2007 12:37:23 pm Donn wrote: >>> So, what's the best way to see the CPU temp and get alerts and >>> whatnot? I know zippo about this topic. I have found two candidates >>> lm-sensors and xmbmon, but that's just a quick apt-cache search. >>> >>> /d >> I've used Ksensors in the past. It's a front end for lm-sensors so you >> need to install that, too. >> >> Configuring lm-sensors is non-trivial in some cases. I recommend >> spending some time with the documentation before trying to set it up. >> Once you get lm-sensors configured, you can just use apt-get or any >> other package manager to install ksensors. >> >> Ron Morse >> > From got.no.email at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 09:14:41 2007 From: got.no.email at gmail.com (Constantin Lungu) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:14:41 +0200 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703080834g533fe1a0x190f92ac71eefef1@mail.gmail.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0703080834g533fe1a0x190f92ac71eefef1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <28d3ad020703090114s25cb3c2fka74dc09ef7326c16@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Phillip , but it just doesn't start. No response. I don`t know the command for executables . But it worked on other distros . On 3/8/07, Phil Bieber wrote: > On 3/8/07, Constantin Lungu wrote: > > > > Hey people ! Kubuntu impressed me as no other distro before like suse, > > mandriva, ubuntu and others. But there is a problem. I can't run linux > > games executables . I click on it (Cube for example) and no effect. I > > tried the same game on the same computer on SUSE and it worked. The > > same problem on ubuntu. Please help. Thanks in advance! > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > Hi! > Try running it from a console: > K-Menue->System->Konsole > cd path/to/your/game > ./executable > > If it still doesn't work, post the output, if any... > > Cheers > > Philipp Bieber > > > -- > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > -- Buck Henry > From philbieber at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 09:23:03 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:23:03 +0100 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <28d3ad020703090114s25cb3c2fka74dc09ef7326c16@mail.gmail.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0703080834g533fe1a0x190f92ac71eefef1@mail.gmail.com> <28d3ad020703090114s25cb3c2fka74dc09ef7326c16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703090123o24924cacr533cc2a84f30b484@mail.gmail.com> On 3/9/07, Constantin Lungu wrote: > > Thanks, Phillip , but it just doesn't start. No response. I don`t know > the command for executables . But it worked on other distros . > > On 3/8/07, Phil Bieber wrote: > > On 3/8/07, Constantin Lungu wrote: > > > > > > Hey people ! Kubuntu impressed me as no other distro before like suse, > > > mandriva, ubuntu and others. But there is a problem. I can't run linux > > > games executables . I click on it (Cube for example) and no effect. I > > > tried the same game on the same computer on SUSE and it worked. The > > > same problem on ubuntu. Please help. Thanks in advance! > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > Hi! > > Try running it from a console: > > K-Menue->System->Konsole > > cd path/to/your/game > > ./executable > > > > If it still doesn't work, post the output, if any... > > > > Cheers > > > > Philipp Bieber > > > > > > -- > > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > > -- Buck Henry > > Hi! Instead of ./executable, just enter the name, you click on to start the game. Meaning: If you start the game by clicking on the file /home/yourname/games/cube/cube.sh (or something like that) enter in your konsole cd /home/yourname/games/cube and then: ./cube.sh Cheers Philipp Bieber -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It works great and costs nothing. I also slowed down my video fan with a resistor in the circuit. The only fan you hear is the power fan. Now you really can't hear the computer which is good when watching movies. Silent? No, but in the past I could not even sleep in the other room with it roaring away. My new computer came with a broken fan on the CPU heat sink which is what started all this research. From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Fri Mar 9 09:41:41 2007 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:41:41 +0000 Subject: No sound on Feisty on ThinkPad In-Reply-To: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> References: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> Message-ID: <45F12BD5.7060301@candt.waitrose.com> Malcolm Yates wrote: > All, has anyone had a problem with sound on Feisty ? > > I'm a right up to date as of right now, but no sound at all on my TP43 > > The might of several of our support people did not manage to resolve - and > before reporting it I thought I would ask if anyone else has seen similar Feisty herd5 in a dell inspiron 1100 - sound seems normal here -- alan cocks From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 09:46:56 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:46:56 +0200 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F12333.20404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703091146.56685.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > PS The key to my computer was hanging the HD with my wife's cloth > covered hair rubber bands in the DVD section of the box. What a brilliant idea! /d From philbieber at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 10:08:48 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:08:48 +0100 Subject: No sound on Feisty on ThinkPad In-Reply-To: <45F12BD5.7060301@candt.waitrose.com> References: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> <45F12BD5.7060301@candt.waitrose.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703090208q71953e32p4ed197dd4a863dc5@mail.gmail.com> On 3/9/07, ac <"aec$news"@candt.waitrose.com> wrote: > > Malcolm Yates wrote: > > All, has anyone had a problem with sound on Feisty ? > > > > I'm a right up to date as of right now, but no sound at all on my TP43 > > > > The might of several of our support people did not manage to resolve - > and > > before reporting it I thought I would ask if anyone else has seen > similar > > Feisty herd5 in a dell inspiron 1100 - sound seems normal here > -- > alan cocks > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! I've recently updated to Feisty on my DELL Inspiron 640m / e1405 and sound works flawlessly. Can you tell us, what kind of sound card is built into your laptop? Perhaps that is the reason... Kind of obvious advice: Check if all the volume controls are cranked up... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 10:11:07 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:11:07 +0100 Subject: CPU temperature watching, quiet computers and box design Message-ID: On 3/9/07, Donn wrote: > > PS The key to my computer was hanging the HD with my wife's cloth > > covered hair rubber bands in the DVD section of the box. > What a brilliant idea! > > /d > Thank you! I am really happy to get to share something like this. Noise makes me tired and stopping it is a good thing in my world. If you think about it, taking a small vibrating device and bolting it to a big piece of sheet-metal is the same design as a speaker. Decoupling your HD from your box it the way to go. My system went from being able to hear every seek from the other side of the house to having to put your head down by the box and listen hard in a quiet room to hear it. All for the cost of 2 hair thingies. Would love to know if and how well this works for others. Seems to me that every box maker would use something like this. It is easy and cheep. You cut out the small hanger box (thus saving the money of making 2 parts" and just make the box with one bigger DVD hanger section and then give out little rubber hangers for the HDs. Or Why not just hang everything. Seems to me that the box would cost less to make and would be lighter for shipping. The boxes seem to be made with the idea that customers play football with them. These are lot laptops. I bet the average person only moves their computer to fix it and that is all. Maybe it is for shipping them assembled through the mail that they are made like tanks on the inside? If anyone gets rich off this idea please send me some cash too! LOL, no really! Douglas From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 10:11:36 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:11:36 -0500 Subject: error copying message to sent folder In-Reply-To: <45F0D25A.5010107@optonline.net> References: <45F04EB0.1030305@optonline.net> <45F0C087.8020706@gatech.edu> <45F0D25A.5010107@optonline.net> Message-ID: <45F132D8.1010505@gatech.edu> anthony baldwin wrote: > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> anthony baldwin wrote: >> >> >>> For some reason, Mozilla is unable to copy sent messages to my ¨sent¨ >>> folder. >>> (Appears to be sending msgs fine.) >>> I´ve never seen this before, and have made no alteration to Mozilla. >>> Anyone have further information? >>> >>> >> I occasionally get that in Mozilla Thunderbird, but only for newsgroups. >> Exactly what happens when you send a message? Do you get an error, or >> does the copy just silently not occur? >> >> > > Well, here´s the weird thing: > When I send the message, the message apparently is sent, but it > hangs for a long time, displaying the dialog box with > ¨copying message to sent folder¨. > Then, eventually, after maybe 5 minutes, I get an error message saying that > it could not successfully copy to said ¨sent¨ folder. > But, later, when I checked, the sent messages were, indeed, in the sent > folder. > And, this is only happening to one pop account (for my domain, > baldwinlinguas.com, my translator business). > It does not happen with my ISP provided account, nor for email on > another domain I own (photodharma.com, > my art and photo site). > Anyway, whatever was happening, it seems to have disappeared. That's good, for now... > Weird... > These things have a mind of their own. Yeah. I'm happy with Thunderbird, but it can be a bit sketch. Like, sometimes it doesn't update the message count on a folder until you open the folder. Best, Matt Flaschen From jonzep at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 10:15:18 2007 From: jonzep at gmail.com (Jonathan Zeppettini) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:15:18 -0500 Subject: apt-get newbie questions In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703090043q59b66062g790b0cadc81e4ea2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703090131.19157.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <3b27fa9d0703090043q59b66062g790b0cadc81e4ea2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Phil is right you can configure all your repos from within Adept as well as use it to search for packages and install them. It's basically just a GUI frontend for APT and unless you really prefer using the command line you might want to give it a try. It makes package management very painless... On 3/9/07, Phil Bieber wrote: > > > On 3/9/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Hi List; > > I just installed Edgy eft on a laptop and its working great! > > > > I'm used to RPM systems where I can search for a pattern as in: > > "yum search xine" and then install the packages listed that I want. > > > > 3 questions: > > > > 1) Is apt-get the preferred package inataller? > > 2) can I do a similar 'search' as above with apt-get > > 3) how can I add additional repositories to apt? (and do I want to?, is > there > > a preferred favorite set of additional repositories)? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > Hi! > There are apt-get and aptitude for package managing. There was recently a > discussion here on the list, that aptitude should be preferred over apt-get > because it has a better dependency tracking (it also removes unused > dependencies...). > The search syntax would be > apt-cache search or > aptitude search > > There are the multiverse repos, which bring some additional packages. Also, > there are the unfree / commercial repos with proprietary drivers and > software (please correct me, if I'm wrong). > To modify your repos, wither use the GUI (adept) or open > /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor. > > Personally, I generate my sources.list with source-o-matic (don't have a > link handy, but a quick Google-consultion should give it to you). I have the > KDE & Amarok repos, wine, and multi-media repos ( I can't recall the name, > and don't have my kubuntu box handy)... > > Cheers > > Philipp Bieber > > -- > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > -- Buck Henry > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- JZ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 10:16:45 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:16:45 -0500 Subject: apt-get newbie questions In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703090043q59b66062g790b0cadc81e4ea2@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703090131.19157.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <3b27fa9d0703090043q59b66062g790b0cadc81e4ea2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F1340D.2050301@gatech.edu> Phil Bieber wrote: > There are the multiverse repos, which bring some additional packages. Also, > there are the unfree / commercial repos with proprietary drivers and > software (please correct me, if I'm wrong). Some multiverse packages are unfree too. Well, actually, even Ubuntu main is unfree, but that's a different story (http://www.gnewsense.org/). > To modify your repos, wither use the GUI (adept) or open > /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor. Have you tried using Adept? That's pretty simple... Matthew Flaschen From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 10:18:52 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 05:18:52 -0500 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703082327v29443621lfaf0f55d195c5914@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> <45F1074A.9010906@gatech.edu> <3b27fa9d0703082327v29443621lfaf0f55d195c5914@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F1348C.9090900@gatech.edu> Phil Bieber wrote: > That doesn't make a difference, as the default address is > http://archive.ubuntu.com ... > > Perhaps try to use a "clean" version of sources.list (no extra repos, > without any additions) and do a dist-upgrade... just a thought, though... > Might be easier to try this before reinstalling.... Yes, but it's impossible to know what he's already installed from those repos. Matt Flaschen From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Fri Mar 9 10:37:08 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (=?UTF-8?Q?Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric_SCHAER?=) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:37:08 +0100 (CET) Subject: CPU temperature watching Message-ID: <4970003.92611173436628188.JavaMail.www@wwinf1619> Well, Compiling is only required if you own a core 2 duo I think : it's thermal sensor support (associated with some new Winbond chip) has just been added and will be part of the 2.6.21 kernels... for now, it seems that those who have a C2D have to deal with that and patch their older kernel (I could find a pacth that is said to work on 2.6.17-2.6.19 kernels). Concerning kernel compilation, I'm not really sure what's best : compiling a vanilla 2.6.20+ kernel (without Ubuntu patches ??), or recompiling the kernel available in apt (kernel-source-2.6.17 ? No 2.6.17.11 ?), or using GIT (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide) Well, I'm going to (re)try one method... some day, when I find some time ;) Cheers > Message du 09/03/07 08:59 > De : "Donn" > A : kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Copie à : "Knapp" > Objet : Re: CPU temperature watching > > Sounds like it's not easy. For some reason I'm uncomfortable with compiling my > own kernel -- not sure how to synch that with the kernal updates that come > out via adept -- not to mention nvidia stuff. > > > To watch the temp try using Ksysgaurd performance monitor. You can add > > the sensor there. I have it and it always says 40c but I have never > > had need to change an Ubuntu kernel or anything like that so maybe it > > is a wrong number. > This worries me too -- how do you *know* you are seeing a number that is > actually real? > > /d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 9 10:40:20 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:40:20 +0000 Subject: dvd::rip and Kubuntu Edgy In-Reply-To: <45F1074A.9010906@gatech.edu> References: <20070308085939.7e045d51@oldrocker> <3b27fa9d0703080105h4b6d037fg803d8d95e3c382f0@mail.gmail.com> <20070308093810.698c2167@oldrocker> <20070308095245.26a5cecc@oldrocker> <45EFDD5D.8030200@gatech.edu> <20070308101613.766ce7a5@oldrocker> <45F1074A.9010906@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070309104020.05d420c9@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:05:46 -0500 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > I don't really know what to tell you. > > It's possible that you have conflicts from all of the third party > repositories. To be sure it's an Ubuntu issue, reinstall and try before > using any other repositories. [snipped] Thanks Matt and the other posters for your time. It certainly seems that there are a number of conflicts there, so I'm reinstalling (again). This time I'll leave off the third party repos and try only the multiverse repository when loading dvd::rip, then the rest of the ubuntu repositories and see if they break it. I'll come back to you when I'm up and running to let you know the result. -- Graham From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 12:50:47 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:50:47 +0200 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: <45F12333.20404@gmail.com> References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F12203.6050707@gmail.com> <45F12333.20404@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703091450.47191.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I will reply myself with a link ; > http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33257 I have tried this one and it won't get past: "checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. So, check this please and use another prefix!" Can you tell me how to install the KDE headers? Thanks /d From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 9 13:01:44 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:01:44 -0500 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: <200703091450.47191.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F12203.6050707@gmail.com> <45F12333.20404@gmail.com> <200703091450.47191.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F15AB8.5000809@gatech.edu> Donn wrote: > Can you tell me how to install the KDE headers? sudo apt-get install kde-devel Matthew Flaschen From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 13:18:56 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:18:56 +0200 Subject: CPU temperature watching In-Reply-To: <45F15AB8.5000809@gatech.edu> References: <200703082137.23506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703091450.47191.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F15AB8.5000809@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703091518.56157.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > Can you tell me how to install the KDE headers? > sudo apt-get install kde-devel Tah, but 38mb just to compile a wee temp app is more than my whisker-above-dialup can handle. I'll go look at lm-sensors and co. :D /d From devriesbj at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 13:55:46 2007 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:55:46 -0500 Subject: No sound on Feisty on ThinkPad In-Reply-To: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> References: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> Message-ID: Malc, I'm not sure if this will be helpful but a long time ago I had an IBM ThinkPad T20 with Breezy Badger installed. Every time I booted I had no sound until I pressed the volume up or volume down button on the keyboard. It was as though the system "thought" the volume was OK but it was really set to "0". Once I hit the volume up or down button, it reset to a level I could hear. Because it happened every time I booted up, I made it part of the routine, about halfway between entering the user/password and when the system was booted, I hit the up or down button. HTH, Brad. On 3/8/07, Malcolm Yates wrote: > > All, has anyone had a problem with sound on Feisty ? > > I'm a right up to date as of right now, but no sound at all on my TP43 > > The might of several of our support people did not manage to resolve - and > before reporting it I thought I would ask if anyone else has seen similar > > Thanks > Malc > -- > ***** Please note the new mobile and home office numbers ***** > Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings > http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com > ------------------- > Grusse/Cordialement/Saluti/Saludos/Med Venlig/Helsning/Saygilarimla > Mobile : +44 (0) 7769 703709 > Home Office : +44 (0) 1483 481712 > Office : +44 (0) 20 7052 9842 ext 22 > Fax : +44 (0) 20 7052 9849 > Mail : Axiscross House, 25/27 Mossop Street, London SW3 2LY UK > ------------------- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 15:15:39 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 07:15:39 -0800 Subject: No sound on Feisty on ThinkPad In-Reply-To: References: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> Message-ID: On 3/9/07, Brad De Vries wrote: > Malc, I'm not sure if this will be helpful but a long time ago I had > an IBM ThinkPad T20 with Breezy Badger installed. Every time I booted > I had no sound until I pressed the volume up or volume down button on > the keyboard. It was as though the system "thought" the volume was OK > but it was really set to "0". Once I hit the volume up or down > button, it reset to a level I could hear. Because it happened every > time I booted up, I made it part of the routine, about halfway between > entering the user/password and when the system was booted, I hit the > up or down button. I second that suggestion. I use an X40, and the sound control for the volume buttons are hardware-based, so you have to check both the buttons and the KMix icon (for the software and hardware end of the problem.) -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 9 15:23:01 2007 From: linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk (linux_smz) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:23:01 +0000 Subject: having trouble installing kubuntu Message-ID: <45F17BD5.6090408@yahoo.co.uk> i am trying to build a machine to hold my excess of files away from my windows machine as in the past i have had to clear it around twice a year to fix all the annoying windows problems. i decided to use kubuntu as i had used it before for a similar purpose for my friend. however when i run the disk i get unto kubuntu and start the install it goes through the options as normal but when it starts the installation it tells me it cannot find a root directory. does anyone know what this problem could be caused by and how do I fix it. -- Get Thunderbird -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200703091050.59924.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 08 March 2007 19:23, Robert Tilley wrote: > I have cookies enabled in Konqueror. > > When I log into docs.google.com and click to edit an existing document, the > edit window displays with the message "Loading..." -- this is good. > > This message becomes frozen to the screen and the window does not update. >  Can anyone on this list edit Google documents?  Mine are simple text web > pages. There are a lot of web apps that work in Firefox that don't work in konqueror. I even have trouble with http://kde-apps.org in konqueror. 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Caution - you will lose previous data on those paritions, etc. hth, /d From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Mar 9 15:53:27 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:53:27 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? In-Reply-To: <45F0AFAC.1010500@gmail.com> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200703081923.21504.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> <45F0AFAC.1010500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703091053.28889.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 08 March 2007 19:51, Stew Schneider wrote: > a message from Google saying they hear loud > and clear that users want support for Safari Safari is the default OS X browser. it is based on Konqueror's khtml engine. 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Root is also known as "/" without the quotes. > > Caution - you will lose previous data on those paritions, etc. > > hth, > /d > > It dosen't give me the option to partition the drive manually it is greyed out and the selected option is to partition it automatically. i have tried using 2 different drives and have also changed the ide cables -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 9 16:52:38 2007 From: linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk (linux_smz) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:52:38 +0000 Subject: having trouble installing kubuntu In-Reply-To: <200703091750.59747.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45F17BD5.6090408@yahoo.co.uk> <200703091750.59747.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F190D6.3010006@yahoo.co.uk> Donn wrote: >> but when it starts the installation it >> tells me it cannot find a root directory. does anyone know what this >> problem could be caused by and how do I fix it. >> > I can't recall the install steps, but you need a partition someplace that > Linux can use as it's "root" or main partition. Make sure your drive has at > least one partition -- best is 1)root (about 3 gigs) 2)home 3)swap (double > your ram -- and then tell the installation wizard thingy to use that > partition. Root is also known as "/" without the quotes. > > Caution - you will lose previous data on those paritions, etc. > > hth, > /d > > ok just got a different message with a different drive. it says manually edit partition table but won't let me edit it and if i hit continue it gives me the error no device found maybe you're not using a root user From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 17:00:59 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:00:59 +0200 Subject: having trouble installing kubuntu In-Reply-To: <45F18FE0.1010702@yahoo.co.uk> References: <45F17BD5.6090408@yahoo.co.uk> <200703091750.59747.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F18FE0.1010702@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <200703091900.59405.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > It dosen't give me the option to partition the drive manually it is > greyed out and the selected option is to partition it automatically. i > have tried using 2 different drives and have also changed the ide cables Um ... try running qtparted (or fdisk) from the live cd. hth /d From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Mar 9 19:48:53 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:48:53 -0500 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703091448.53740.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 08 March 2007 10:49 am, Constantin Lungu wrote: > games executables . I click on it (Cube for example) and no effect. I > tried the same game on the same computer on SUSE and it worked. The > same problem on ubuntu. Please help. Thanks in advance! Have you kept the same home directory through all these distro changes? I don't know of a game called "Cube." It seems maybe you have something in your user's personal menu that refers to a game you used to have on SuSE. If you want to try to follow the other person's suggestion, expressed in terms a newbie might hope to understand... Right click on the K menu, and pick Menu Editor. Click around through the various levels of menus until you find a game you want. For example, click on Games, then Arcade, then "Tron-like Game (KTron)." When you reach the level of an individual game, the right field of the window will show you fields like "Name:," and "Command:." The bit you're after is the "Command:," which is "/usr/games/ktron -caption "%c" %i %m" in this case. So open a terminal window (System -> Terminal Program) and then type /usr/games/ktron at the prompt. The idea is to see what kind of error it gives you by way of explaining why the game didn't work. For example, you might see: bash: /usr/games/ktron: No such file or directory Whatever the error messages, copy them and paste them here, and we'll help you figure out what's going wrong. -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Mar 9 19:58:59 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:58:59 -0500 Subject: cant dist-upgrade, broken repository ?? In-Reply-To: <45F04D85.2030500@wanadoo.fr> References: <45F04D85.2030500@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <200703091458.59264.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 08 March 2007 12:53 pm, Fred Schaer wrote: > Trying to dist-upgrade, I have a strange problem : apt is trying to > upgrade the package "keep", but if fails with : Broken packages for sure. I'm not sure where to go from here. It doesn't look like Launchpad covers backport-related bugs. About all I can do is confirm that you're looking at genuine Grade A busted packages. -- D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 9 20:09:37 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:09:37 +0200 Subject: cant dist-upgrade, broken repository ?? In-Reply-To: <45F04D85.2030500@wanadoo.fr> References: <45F04D85.2030500@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <200703092209.37796.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Trying to dist-upgrade, I have a strange problem : apt is trying to > upgrade the package "keep", but if fails with : I have my very own version of this too: The following packages have been kept back: dvd+rw-tools Adept shows the "you got binaries!" icon but I cannot update that package cos it shows "Broken" in Adept. I am not clued-up on packages at the best of times. Still, I await my CD-ROM drive so I can install Kubuntu 64 and I guess I'll be starting all over again in about a week - still, nice to know what this 'Keep' business is all about. /d From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Fri Mar 9 22:35:10 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:35:10 -0500 Subject: having trouble installing kubuntu In-Reply-To: <45F18FE0.1010702@yahoo.co.uk> References: <45F17BD5.6090408@yahoo.co.uk> <200703091750.59747.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F18FE0.1010702@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <1173479710.23286.1178685613@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:48:32 +0000, "linux_smz" said: > Donn wrote: > >> but when it starts the installation it > >> tells me it cannot find a root directory. does anyone know what this > >> problem could be caused by and how do I fix it. This looks like bug # 67130: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/67130 This is not listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues anymore. Seems Edgy (6.10) Alternate CD had not this problem. You probably made your partition with other program, or did tried to keep an old partition. "The selected root partition needs to be reformated or deleted and then made again." -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 10 03:40:30 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:40:30 -0500 Subject: Games Message-ID: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Can anyone point me to some comnplex role-playing strategy games, or 3D games requiring a joystick for Linux? I come across Boson and Scortched 3D. Has anyone had any trouble setting these up? My son and I are looking for games to play across a network that will keep us busy together for a long Saturday morning or two....trying to wean him off of that other OS. :-) Larry From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Sat Mar 10 04:27:55 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:27:55 -0700 Subject: DVD playback? Message-ID: <200703092127.55306.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> How do I make Kaffiene play DVD's? From priyadarsanroy at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 05:46:25 2007 From: priyadarsanroy at gmail.com (Priyadarsan Roy) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:16:25 +0530 Subject: Games In-Reply-To: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <45F24631.4090304@gmail.com> Larry Hartman wrote: > Can anyone point me to some comnplex role-playing strategy games, or 3D games > requiring a joystick for Linux? I come across Boson and Scortched 3D. Has > anyone had any trouble setting these up? My son and I are looking for games > to play across a network that will keep us busy together for a long Saturday > morning or two....trying to wean him off of that other OS. :-) > > Larry > > Have you tried bzflag. http://www.bzflag.org/ Regards, PD From kassube at gmx.net Sat Mar 10 07:56:50 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:56:50 +0100 Subject: DVD playback? In-Reply-To: <200703092127.55306.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703092127.55306.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200703100856.50485.kassube@gmx.net> On Saturday 10 March 2007 05:27, Kevin Kempter wrote: > How do I make Kaffiene play DVD's? Maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs Nils From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Mar 10 08:09:52 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:09:52 +0000 Subject: Games In-Reply-To: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20070310080952.5e161c92@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:40:30 -0500 Larry Hartman wrote: > Can anyone point me to some comnplex role-playing strategy games, or 3D games > requiring a joystick for Linux? I come across Boson and Scortched 3D. Has > anyone had any trouble setting these up? My son and I are looking for games > to play across a network that will keep us busy together for a long Saturday > morning or two....trying to wean him off of that other OS. :-) > > Larry > I'm not sure if it requires a joystick, but you might try FreeCiv (the Linux version of Civilization that can also be played under Windows). See: http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Freeciv -- Graham From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 09:30:13 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:30:13 +0100 Subject: Games In-Reply-To: <20070310080952.5e161c92@localhost.localdomain> References: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <20070310080952.5e161c92@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: > > Can anyone point me to some comnplex role-playing strategy games, or 3D games > > requiring a joystick for Linux? I come across Boson and Scortched 3D. Has > > anyone had any trouble setting these up? My son and I are looking for games > > to play across a network that will keep us busy together for a long Saturday > > morning or two....trying to wean him off of that other OS. :-) > > > > Larry "Sabayon Gaming and multimedia capabilities from a live CD" I have played these on this CD or was it a DVD? In any case they are REAL pro quality games. I do not think I would let my kids play them though. :-) If they run on Sabayon then you should be able to run them in Kubuntu. It might be some work and you WILL need a good 3d card and the drivers that run it but you should all be able to made them work. I also like supertux, Kobo delux, fish fillet, liquid war, lbreakout2, torks, planet penquin racer, lincity-ng, Flight Gear Flight Sim, tremulos and others but this is a good start. Just type games in adept package manager for lots of games to look at of course. "Sabayon Linux is the most advanced and complete Linux distribution when it comes to multimedia completeness and capabilities. Use the parameters below only in ISOLINUX command line mode (no need to write those in Sabayon Linux 3.2). * quake4: start Quake4 playable demo. * coldwar: start ColdWar playable demo. * geexbox: start GeeXboX 1.0 Media Center. * mediacenter: start Sabayon Linux with Freevo Media Center. " From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 09:38:34 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:38:34 +0200 Subject: Games In-Reply-To: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703101138.34806.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Give PlaneShift a go. /d From got.no.email at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 12:25:22 2007 From: got.no.email at gmail.com (Constantin Lungu) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:25:22 +0200 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <200703091448.53740.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> <200703091448.53740.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <28d3ad020703100425y9fd3c37l17db0ac3476c4022@mail.gmail.com> No, no, no. I've tried 8 open source games for linux and they DO NOT START. On other distros they do. But i like kubuntu! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From seekker at myway.com Sat Mar 10 12:34:07 2007 From: seekker at myway.com (Seekker) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:34:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? Message-ID: <20070310123407.8F1F74678F@mprdmxin.myway.com> Interesting ... in firefox, your link takes me directly to my GoogleDocs and Spreadsheets ... In Konqueror, I get the message that I don't have cookies enabled [I checked and I do], but I also get an error message "cannot start the cookie handler", which I've never gotten before ... Sorry I couldn't help :( --- On Thu 03/08, Matthew Flaschen < matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu > wrote: From: Matthew Flaschen [mailto: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu] To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:16:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Google Docs & Konqueror? Jonathan Jesse wrote:>>From what I can tell, this has been updated and fixed in Feisty. I can verify > that Gmail works fine w/ Feisty Konqi.Please read the thread. It is Google Docs and Spreadsheets(https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F%3Fhl%3Den&hl=en<mpl=homepage&nui=1&utm_source=en-abt&utm_medium=abt&utm_campaign=en)that is not working with Konqueror. Does that work in Fiesty?Matthew Flaschen-- kubuntu-users mailing listkubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.comModify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 12:37:35 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:37:35 +0200 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <28d3ad020703100425y9fd3c37l17db0ac3476c4022@mail.gmail.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> <200703091448.53740.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <28d3ad020703100425y9fd3c37l17db0ac3476c4022@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703101437.35928.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > No, no, no. I've tried 8 open source games for linux and they DO NOT START. Well, that's what Mike is trying to help you with. Read his email and help him to help you. > But i like kubuntu! Cool, we do too. /d From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 10 12:56:14 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:56:14 -0500 Subject: Games In-Reply-To: References: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <20070310080952.5e161c92@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200703100756.14519.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Thanx to all who gave me suggestions On Saturday 10 March 2007 04:30:13 am Knapp wrote: > > > Can anyone point me to some comnplex role-playing strategy games, > > or 3D games > > > > requiring a joystick for Linux? I come across Boson and Scortched 3D. > > > Has anyone had any trouble setting these up? My son and I are looking > > > for games to play across a network that will keep us busy together for > > > a long Saturday morning or two....trying to wean him off of that other > > > OS. :-) > > > > > > Larry > > "Sabayon Gaming and multimedia capabilities from a live CD" > > I have played these on this CD or was it a DVD? In any case they are > REAL pro quality games. I do not think I would let my kids play them > though. :-) > > If they run on Sabayon then you should be able to run them in Kubuntu. > It might be some work and you WILL need a good 3d card and the drivers > that run it but you should all be able to made them work. > > I also like supertux, Kobo delux, fish fillet, liquid war, > lbreakout2, torks, planet penquin racer, lincity-ng, Flight Gear > Flight Sim, tremulos and others but this is a good start. > > Just type games in adept package manager for lots of games to look at of > course. > > > "Sabayon Linux is the most advanced and complete Linux distribution > when it comes to multimedia completeness and capabilities. Use the > parameters below only in ISOLINUX command line mode (no need to write > those in Sabayon Linux 3.2). > > * quake4: start Quake4 playable demo. > * coldwar: start ColdWar playable demo. > * geexbox: start GeeXboX 1.0 Media Center. > * mediacenter: start Sabayon Linux with Freevo Media Center. > " From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sat Mar 10 14:40:20 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:40:20 -0700 Subject: Games In-Reply-To: <200703100756.14519.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <200703100756.14519.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703100740.20908.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Saturday 10 March 2007 05:56:14 am Larry Hartman wrote: > Thanx to all who gave me suggestions > > On Saturday 10 March 2007 04:30:13 am Knapp wrote: > > > > Can anyone point me to some comnplex role-playing strategy games, > > > > or 3D games > > > > > > requiring a joystick for Linux? I come across Boson and Scortched > > > > 3D. Has anyone had any trouble setting these up? My son and I are > > > > looking for games to play across a network that will keep us busy > > > > together for a long Saturday morning or two....trying to wean him off > > > > of that other OS. :-) > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > "Sabayon Gaming and multimedia capabilities from a live CD" > > > > I have played these on this CD or was it a DVD? In any case they are > > REAL pro quality games. I do not think I would let my kids play them > > though. :-) > > > > If they run on Sabayon then you should be able to run them in Kubuntu. > > It might be some work and you WILL need a good 3d card and the drivers > > that run it but you should all be able to made them work. > > > > I also like supertux, Kobo delux, fish fillet, liquid war, > > lbreakout2, torks, planet penquin racer, lincity-ng, Flight Gear > > Flight Sim, tremulos and others but this is a good start. > > > > Just type games in adept package manager for lots of games to look at of > > course. > > > > > > "Sabayon Linux is the most advanced and complete Linux distribution > > when it comes to multimedia completeness and capabilities. Use the > > parameters below only in ISOLINUX command line mode (no need to write > > those in Sabayon Linux 3.2). > > > > * quake4: start Quake4 playable demo. > > * coldwar: start ColdWar playable demo. > > * geexbox: start GeeXboX 1.0 Media Center. > > * mediacenter: start Sabayon Linux with Freevo Media Center. > > " Americas Army http://tinyurl.com/3afrej From philbieber at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 15:30:00 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:30:00 +0100 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <200703101437.35928.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> <200703091448.53740.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <28d3ad020703100425y9fd3c37l17db0ac3476c4022@mail.gmail.com> <200703101437.35928.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703100730v29010d85qd4493df85374f6f1@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Did you install 3D drivers? And do they work? What kind of graphics hardware are you using? And you should really try the command line part, Micheal & I told you about... that might really help you. What other games did you try? Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philbieber at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 17:07:56 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:07:56 +0100 Subject: Send hostname when getting DHCP lease? Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703100907t4000437au854d8f6ea2e0d749@mail.gmail.com> Hi list! I'm trying to find a way to make my Feisty box send it's hostname, when it gets its IP address ... At the moment, I get an IP address, but when I lookup my active network devices in my router, there is no hostname next to my IP. All the Windows PC (and mine, when in Windows) report their names correctly. This is what my router interface looks like: pc1 192.168.0.12 192.168.0.13 pc3 192.168.0.14 With 192.168.0.13 being my Feisty box. I had the same problem with earlier versions of Kubuntu and by now it is really bothering me. I edited the /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf to include send host-name "hekate"; ... but it doesn't ... Any help would be really appreciated Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Mar 10 17:58:13 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:58:13 -0500 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <28d3ad020703100425y9fd3c37l17db0ac3476c4022@mail.gmail.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> <200703091448.53740.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <28d3ad020703100425y9fd3c37l17db0ac3476c4022@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703101258.13994.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 10 March 2007 7:25 am, Constantin Lungu wrote: > No, no, no. I've tried 8 open source games for linux and they DO NOT START. > On other distros they do. But i like kubuntu! You are apparently beyond my help. I regret wasting time on you. -- D. Michael McIntyre From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sat Mar 10 18:42:36 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:42:36 -0500 Subject: Question from newbie In-Reply-To: <200703101258.13994.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <28d3ad020703080749o58cf23a2wdc530a0476b69b33@mail.gmail.com> <200703091448.53740.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <28d3ad020703100425y9fd3c37l17db0ac3476c4022@mail.gmail.com> <200703101258.13994.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <45F2FC1C.8040003@optonline.net> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >On Saturday 10 March 2007 7:25 am, Constantin Lungu wrote: > > >>No, no, no. I've tried 8 open source games for linux and they DO NOT START. >>On other distros they do. But i like kubuntu! >> >> > >You are apparently beyond my help. I regret wasting time on you. > > Were you trying to install .rpms or something? You need .debs or to install from source (a bit tricky for a newb). Honestly, I think if you look in the multiverse universe, etc. repos, you´ll find lotso games that should install and start just fine. tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 10 21:39:06 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:39:06 -0500 Subject: Adept Updater and Upgrade from Edgy to Feisty Message-ID: <200703101639.06346.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Hi Guys: I am getting some curious activity on my Edgy distro with respect to my Adept manager. Adept recently went through a version upgrade. After it was done, the next time that the updater loaded and showed updates, at the conclusion of the update session it notified me of a new Kubuntu version. Even though I know that Feisty is still in RC5--as far as the website shows--I clicked yes and it proceeded to download the upgrade software. At the end of the download it asked me to close the window at which time the new upgrade software would exit Adept and load its own interface. So when I closed the window.....precisely nothing happened, Adept remained open and no other software loaded. When I closed Adept manually, nothing more happened. I suspect that the development team is working hard to make an easy upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, and that this program is a piece of that. Have any others experienced this, and if so, did it work as expected? Larry -eagerly awaiting stable Feisty From lure at ubuntu.com Sat Mar 10 21:47:59 2007 From: lure at ubuntu.com (Luka Renko) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:47:59 +0100 Subject: Adept Updater and Upgrade from Edgy to Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703101639.06346.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703101639.06346.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703102247.59460.lure@ubuntu.com> On Saturday 10. of March 2007 22:39:06 Larry Hartman wrote: > Hi Guys: > > I am getting some curious activity on my Edgy distro with respect to my > Adept manager. Adept recently went through a version upgrade. After it > was done, the next time that the updater loaded and showed updates, at the > conclusion of the update session it notified me of a new Kubuntu version. > > Even though I know that Feisty is still in RC5--as far as the website > shows--I clicked yes and it proceeded to download the upgrade software. At > the end of the download it asked me to close the window at which time the > new upgrade software would exit Adept and load its own interface. So when > I closed the window.....precisely nothing happened, Adept remained open and > no other software loaded. When I closed Adept manually, nothing more > happened. > > I suspect that the development team is working hard to make an easy upgrade > from Edgy to Feisty, and that this program is a piece of that. Have any > others experienced this, and if so, did it work as expected? You have edgy-proposed repositories enabled? Changes needed for proper support of edgy -> feisty upgrade were added to -proposed repository in order to get wider testing. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDistUpgrade Regards, Luka From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Sat Mar 10 21:59:54 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:59:54 -0700 Subject: SATA newbie questions Message-ID: <200703101459.54962.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; I'm new to Kubuntu, Ubuntu and any other debian based distro. I am not new to Linux - up until now I've only run RPM based distros. One issue with running Fedora on my laptop was that I had performance issues with my SATA hard drive. The fix was to add this to the grub kernel line: "combined_mode=libata" However doing this causes issues with mounting my cd's / dvd's and automount stopped working completely. Is this an issue with Kubuntu as well? Also, two more questions: (1) can someone point me to a link with info on how to install debian packages by hand ? (2) can I search on what packages/versions are currently installed (like an rpm -qa) ? Thanks in advance... From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 10 22:02:02 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:02:02 -0500 Subject: Adept Updater and Upgrade from Edgy to Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703102247.59460.lure@ubuntu.com> References: <200703101639.06346.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <200703102247.59460.lure@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200703101702.02992.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> > when I closed the window.....precisely nothing happened, Adept remained Yup that 'splains it Luka. On Saturday 10 March 2007 04:47:59 pm Luka Renko wrote: > On Saturday 10. of March 2007 22:39:06 Larry Hartman wrote: > > Hi Guys: > > > > I am getting some curious activity on my Edgy distro with respect to my > > Adept manager. Adept recently went through a version upgrade. After it > > was done, the next time that the updater loaded and showed updates, at > > the conclusion of the update session it notified me of a new Kubuntu > > version. > > > > Even though I know that Feisty is still in RC5--as far as the website > > shows--I clicked yes and it proceeded to download the upgrade software. > > At the end of the download it asked me to close the window at which time > > the new upgrade software would exit Adept and load its own interface. So >> > open and no other software loaded. When I closed Adept manually, nothing > > more happened. > > > > I suspect that the development team is working hard to make an easy > > upgrade from Edgy to Feisty, and that this program is a piece of that. > > Have any others experienced this, and if so, did it work as expected? > > You have edgy-proposed repositories enabled? > Changes needed for proper support of edgy -> feisty upgrade were added > to -proposed repository in order to get wider testing. > > See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDistUpgrade > > Regards, > Luka From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Sat Mar 10 22:10:41 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:10:41 -0700 Subject: Edgy vs Dapper Drake? Message-ID: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; what's the real diff's between Edgy (6.10) and Dapper Drake (6.06) ? From wattazoum at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 22:44:43 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:44:43 +0100 Subject: Edgy vs Dapper Drake? In-Reply-To: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: Kevin Kempter a écrit : > Hi List; > > what's the real diff's between Edgy (6.10) and Dapper Drake (6.06) > > ? > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Mar 10 22:45:50 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:45:50 -0500 Subject: wireless security Message-ID: <200703101745.50350.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I'm running edgy w/ a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card. The interface configuration options only allow for using WEP keys. How can I use WPA keys? Paul From samedkonak at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 21:15:58 2007 From: samedkonak at gmail.com (Guardian) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:15:58 +0200 Subject: AMD64 or i386 ? Message-ID: <200703102315.58325.samedkonak@gmail.com> hi, I have AMD Anthlon 3800 [64-Bit]. So I have an Amd64 version of kubuntu on my system. But I could'nt take advanteges of my Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS yet, I tried to install from source code by the file that I downloaded from Nvidia's site.. (I could'nt solve init system) And the second question is; is there any advantege to use 64bit version of kubuntu than i386. I think to change my system to i386 version.. thank you for your sharings.. From jjesse at iserv.net Sat Mar 10 22:56:37 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:56:37 -0500 Subject: Google Docs & Konqueror? In-Reply-To: <45F0DFB8.6090808@gatech.edu> References: <20070308232613.894D9467F1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200703082209.28859.jjesse@iserv.net> <45F0DFB8.6090808@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703101756.37777.jjesse@iserv.net> On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:16, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > >>From what I can tell, this has been updated and fixed in Feisty. I can > >> verify > > > > that Gmail works fine w/ Feisty Konqi. > > Please read the thread. It is Google Docs and Spreadsheets > (https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=true& >continue=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2F%3Fhl%3Den&hl=en<mpl=homepage&nui= >1&utm_source=en-abt&utm_medium=abt&utm_campaign=en) that is not working with > Konqueror. Does that work in Fiesty? > > Matthew Flaschen Sorry for the delay but under Edgy I get unsupported browser and under Feisty it allows me to sign in and work. Jonathan From hobbsee at kubuntu.org Sun Mar 11 01:39:41 2007 From: hobbsee at kubuntu.org (Sarah Hobbs) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:39:41 +1100 Subject: Kubuntu Desktop Bugs Week! Message-ID: <45F35DDD.9050004@kubuntu.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Originally from Yuriy Kozlov, but he isnt subscribed to these mailing lists, so got moderated. Hobbsee - ---------- Hello Kubuntu fans, With a bit over a month left until Feisty is released, it's a great time to sort out bugs and polish up the desktop. We are having a week of bug triaging focusing on Kubuntu Desktop applications, inspired by a similar effort by the Ubuntu Desktop Team. Every day the week of Monday March 12 through Friday March 16 we will pick a major application/package in the Kubuntu Desktop and triage (and maybe fix!) as many of its bugs as we can. With enough people helping, we can get all the bugs in major desktop components sorted out and fixed. Everybody can help! More information, tasks, bug lists, and a schedule are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuTeam/Bugs There is lots of information on how to triage there too, so please read that page and stop by #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-bugs on IRC and help out! ~ Yuriy Kozlov - -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF813c7/o1b30rzoURAkuwAJoDfy/Jatz/aWeeG1YkzjBi0CWSjgCgz56+ FavJYYlEupEGyvDlU3/3r70= =bRco -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From aharrison at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 01:52:48 2007 From: aharrison at gmail.com (Andy Harrison) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:52:48 -0500 Subject: wireless security In-Reply-To: <200703101745.50350.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200703101745.50350.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 3/10/07, Paul Kaplan wrote: > > I'm running edgy w/ a D-Link DWL-G650 wireless card. The interface > configuration options only allow for using WEP keys. How can I use WPA > keys? > Paul AFAIK, you probably will need to use the wpa_supplicant program found in the wpasupplicant package. I've used it before, just not under ubuntu. -- Andy Harrison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lokeey at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 04:58:48 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:58:48 -0600 Subject: AMD64 or i386 ? In-Reply-To: <200703102315.58325.samedkonak@gmail.com> References: <200703102315.58325.samedkonak@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a similar system...64x2 3800 and I'm running 32bit version instead of 64bit. just a pref of mine due to all the hacking required to get some things working. i don't mind doing it, but after a while it becomes a pain. also, not much of a difference to be honest with you. it runs just as well on 64. On 3/10/07, Guardian wrote: > > hi, > > I have AMD Anthlon 3800 [64-Bit]. So I have an Amd64 version of kubuntu on > my > system. > > But I could'nt take advanteges of my Nvidia GeForce 7300 GS yet, I tried > to > install from source code by the file that I downloaded from Nvidia's > site.. > (I could'nt solve init system) > > And the second question is; is there any advantege to use 64bit version of > kubuntu than i386. I think to change my system to i386 version.. > > thank you for your sharings.. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 07:16:28 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:16:28 +0200 Subject: AMD64 or i386 ? In-Reply-To: References: <200703102315.58325.samedkonak@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703110916.28503.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I have a similar system...64x2 3800 and I'm running 32bit version instead > of 64bit. just a pref of mine due to all the hacking required to get some > things working. i don't mind doing it, but after a while it becomes a pain. > also, not much of a difference to be honest with you. it runs just as well > on 64. Did you find the 64 to be significantly faster than the 32 on a 64x2? I am impressed by the speed on my new 64x2 -- apps like konqy now open in about 2 seconds and that old dog Firefox opens in under 10. I have heard from a friend that his experience with Winders 64 was that it was almost 50% faster than 32 on his AMD 64x2, so I am kinda keen to see what REAL speed is like. Heck, I seem to be strapped onto the hood of this monster and I wanna go for a little ride :) /d From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Sun Mar 11 07:24:36 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:24:36 -0400 Subject: installaton incident, kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso on new laptop Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I picked up a nice new Gateway laptop (MT6451 Notebook PC) It has an AMD Turion 64x2 processor and a 120 gig HD I had little problem repartitioning it with a knoppix cd. /dev/hda1 19 Gb NTFS reinstalled vista with included CD /dev/hda2 14 Gb fat32 D: for files I want to share with vista /dev/hda3 1 Gb ext2 Will be for a /boot partition eventually /dev/hda4 extended /dev/hda5 16 Gb ext2 intended Kubuntu / partition /dev/hda6 16 Gb ext2 currently Fedora core 3 / /dev/hda7 16 Gb ext2 currently an old version of Mepis / /dev/hda8 3 Gb ext2 1 of 3 dedicated USER data ~/STUFF /dev/hda9 4 Gb ext2 2 of 3 dedicated USER data ~/images /dev/hda10 5 Gb ext2 3 of 3 dedicated USER data ~/dnlo /dev/hda11 17 Gb ext2 tmp storage for archive data /dev/hda12 1 Gb linux-swap When I ran the Edgy cd as a live cd, it worked... So I smiled and clicked on the install icon. Everything went fine until step 5 of 6 where I noted that the install routine planned to reformat /dev/hda12 as swap but had assigned all the rest of the partitions to mount points "/media/hdaX" (where X is the partition number) The on screen instructions say I must mount one as "/" and choose at least one swap partition. So I clicked on the mount point for /dev/hda5 and selected / ... But when I tried to continue it gave me this error message: ^ /!\ No root file system - --- I wanted an ext2 file system. NOT ext3 but since nothing else worked, (not even letting the installer reformat /dev/hda5 as ext2) I tried telling it to format it with it's default ext3. This time it did continue... But it then said it was reformatting /dev/hda5 as ext2???? The installer is copying files as I write this... I'll be very interested to note if /dev/hda5 wound up as ext2 or ext3. It's ext2... Why would it not accept / on hda5 until I told it to reformat as ext3??? And then, once I selected that it should be formatted as ext3, why on earth would it then reformat it as the ext2 I wanted in the first place??? ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF860tRZ/61mwhY94RAs5UAJ9V0HRsXmK4Aw3rzn1ZUZp8Drq2WwCdGDdj zXN6mrfIBP+FJUrZIENm2FI= =VF2M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | ~^~ ~^~ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From kyle.hamar at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 08:05:08 2007 From: kyle.hamar at gmail.com (Kyle Hamar) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 00:05:08 -0800 Subject: Games In-Reply-To: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703092240.30535.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On 3/9/07, Larry Hartman wrote: > Can anyone point me to some comnplex role-playing strategy games, or 3D games > requiring a joystick for Linux? http://www.eternal-lands.com/ From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Mar 11 08:44:33 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:44:33 +0000 Subject: Edgy and APT-pinning Message-ID: <20070311084433.68bcac57@oldrocker> I notice that there's no preferences file in /etc/apt under Edgy. There's plenty of references to Debian apt-pinning when Googling around, but could somebody refer me to something (K)ubuntu specific for pinning. Thanks in advance :) -- Graham From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Mar 11 11:58:43 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:58:43 +1100 Subject: Edgy and APT-pinning References: <20070311084433.68bcac57@oldrocker> Message-ID: <871wjwt2j0.fsf@rimspace.net> Graham writes: > I notice that there's no preferences file in /etc/apt under Edgy. > > There's plenty of references to Debian apt-pinning when Googling > around, but could somebody refer me to something (K)ubuntu specific > for pinning. There is no difference: use the same content as you would on a Debian system, save referencing the Ubuntu releases. As a non-core comment though, don't do that. You /really/ don't want to try and run a system that is a mix of two releases. In short order you will wind up in a stick mess that just doesn't work correctly. If you really can't live without the newer versions of some software you are vastly better off compiling the newer release on the older version yourself. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Mar 11 11:56:35 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:56:35 +1100 Subject: AMD64 or i386 ? References: <200703102315.58325.samedkonak@gmail.com> <200703110916.28503.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <876498t2mk.fsf@rimspace.net> Donn writes: >> I have a similar system...64x2 3800 and I'm running 32bit version >> instead of 64bit. just a pref of mine due to all the hacking required >> to get some things working. i don't mind doing it, but after a while >> it becomes a pain. also, not much of a difference to be honest with >> you. it runs just as well on 64. > > Did you find the 64 to be significantly faster than the 32 on a 64x2? The previous poster, who your system doesn't credit, is unlikely to have experienced a genuine performance difference between a 64 and 32 bit platform -- all other factors being equal. > I am impressed by the speed on my new 64x2 -- apps like konqy now open > in about 2 seconds and that old dog Firefox opens in under 10. Does a 32-bit kernel running on the same hardware show the same performance? > I have heard from a friend that his experience with Winders 64 was > that it was almost 50% faster than 32 on his AMD 64x2, so I am kinda > keen to see what REAL speed is like. Heck, I seem to be strapped onto > the hood of this monster and I wanna go for a little ride :) Well, in the real world: Using 64-bit code means more cache pressure -- significantly more, what with constants and branches being 64-bit -- which in turn means lower performance. The single biggest performance killer on a modern computer is the number of lost cycles to a cache miss. Using larger values, instructions and branch targets means (effectively) less cache than on a 32-bit system and, consequently, lower performance. On the x86 architecture, though, you do actually gain a few things with the x86-64 target -- the compiler has many more registers and the ability to assume that modern instruction set extensions are going to be present. This means that the compiler, especially when it does a poor job managing register spills on a restricted register CPU, can deliver code that runs faster. In the real world this seems to translate into the 32 and 64 bit versions of the x86 architecture being a wash for performance. You really can't tell the difference without seeking out specific benchmarks aimed at showing one is better than the other. This is the as opposed to something like the SPARC architecture; over there you run a 32-bit userland on a 64-bit kernel because it gains you a significant performance advantage. As to Windows: it is possible that in revamping many of the kernel internals in Windows64 they were able to abandon a number of legacy features that, in turn, contributed to poor performance. Linux, out of the box, is considerably more efficient than Windows in terms of micro performance on the hardware. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From mark.kubuntu at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 13:12:30 2007 From: mark.kubuntu at gmail.com (mark neidorff) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:12:30 -0400 Subject: Hardware list--new PC Message-ID: Hi folks, Its time for me to (at last) update my system and my distribution. Been using linux (hmmmmm......) since 1993, so I know my way around and have done enough with different distros that switching isn't going to be a problem to me. (OK, stop laughing...I HOPE that switching won't be a problem) It may be a tall order but I'd like to: 1. buy a new CPU/motherboard and RAM that has most stuff built in (I'm not a 3-d gamer, so the latest/greatest/most-crash-prone graphics don't interest me. 2. use the PC to run servers that I am now running: apache, qmail, ezmlm, spamassassin, clamav, courier-vpopmail, etc. 3. do my general work on the PC--(easy stuff--OoO, K3B, kmail, listen to various forms of audio & watch a few videos) As I mentioned I run a mail server + several small mailing lists. When I switch from old server to new, I don't want to have a lot of downtime. I don't want to go out and buy a CPU/mb/RAM and then find out that I have problems getting the on-board ports (network/audio/video/usb/firewire,etc) working. So, my questions are: Is there a hardware compatibility list? Is there "preferred" hardware? (I prefer AMD CPUs. ) Is this the list where I should be asking these questions???? (if not, where should I ask) Thanks for any help, Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sun Mar 11 13:35:23 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:35:23 -0400 Subject: Hardware list--new PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F4059B.8070401@optonline.net> mark neidorff wrote: > Hi folks, > > Its time for me to (at last) update my system and my distribution. > Been using linux (hmmmmm......) since 1993, so I know my way around > and have done enough with different distros that switching isn't going > to be a problem to me. (OK, stop laughing...I HOPE that switching > won't be a problem) > > It may be a tall order but I'd like to: > > 1. buy a new CPU/motherboard and RAM that has most stuff built in (I'm > not a 3-d gamer, so the latest/greatest/most-crash-prone graphics > don't interest me. > 2. use the PC to run servers that I am now running: apache, qmail, > ezmlm, spamassassin, clamav, courier-vpopmail, etc. > 3. do my general work on the PC--(easy stuff--OoO, K3B, kmail, listen > to various forms of audio & watch a few videos) > > As I mentioned I run a mail server + several small mailing lists. > When I switch from old server to new, I don't want to have a lot of > downtime. > > I don't want to go out and buy a CPU/mb/RAM and then find out that I > have problems getting the on-board ports > (network/audio/video/usb/firewire,etc) working. > > So, my questions are: > > Is there a hardware compatibility list? > Is there "preferred" hardware? (I prefer AMD CPUs. ) > Is this the list where I should be asking these questions???? (if > not, where should I ask) > > Thanks for any help, > > Mark > > I´ll be watching this thread with interest. I am presently still using a P3 1ghz with 512mb ram that I build a few years ago, and it is time to upgrade. I use my computer primarily to work (translating documents), so I, too, have no interest in 3D gaming. I do, however, shoot digital photos and manipulate them, but I don´t think I need blazing 3D graphics capability to do so. I will likely purchase parts from Tigerdirect.com, but if anyone has other suggestions on where to acquire quality components for excellent prices, I would appreciate the info, too. My HDD is practically new, so I have no intention of changing it out (200gb is more than plenty for me). I also wonder, can I change the mobo/cpu/memory and simply reboot the same system? I will also be changing my monitor (to a large LCD). I assume, of course, I should not do so at the very moment I change these other components, but, will Kubu auto-detect a new monitor and later X settings accordingly? (Like kudzu in Fedora would do) tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From art.alexion at verizon.net Sun Mar 11 13:40:00 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:40:00 -0500 Subject: Edgy and APT-pinning In-Reply-To: <871wjwt2j0.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <20070311084433.68bcac57@oldrocker> <871wjwt2j0.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703110940.03457.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Sunday 11 March 2007 07:58, Daniel Pittman wrote: > You /really/ don't want to > try and run a system that is a mix of two releases.  In short order you > will wind up in a stick mess that just doesn't work correctly. And even if it does seem to work, you will likely have problems with your next dist-upgrade -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sun Mar 11 14:54:03 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:54:03 +0100 Subject: cant dist-upgrade, broken repository ?? In-Reply-To: <200703092209.37796.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45F04D85.2030500@wanadoo.fr> <200703092209.37796.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F4180B.5090307@wanadoo.fr> Mmmh... "my bug" disappeared - repository was most probably updated... Concerning the kept back thing, it looks like the packages that can't be updated depend on other unavailable packages (try to install the dependencies of the new packages in apt to find which one ?) , or that you're just updating and not using 'dist-upgrade' (the simple apt update can't install/remove new packages) Cheers Donn a écrit : >> Trying to dist-upgrade, I have a strange problem : apt is trying to >> upgrade the package "keep", but if fails with : >> > > I have my very own version of this too: > The following packages have been kept back: > dvd+rw-tools > > Adept shows the "you got binaries!" icon but I cannot update that package cos > it shows "Broken" in Adept. I am not clued-up on packages at the best of > times. > > Still, I await my CD-ROM drive so I can install Kubuntu 64 and I guess I'll be > starting all over again in about a week - still, nice to know what > this 'Keep' business is all about. > > /d > > From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Sun Mar 11 15:09:05 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:09:05 -0700 Subject: Hardware list--new PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703110809.05172.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Sunday 11 March 2007 06:12:30 am mark neidorff wrote: > Hi folks, > > Its time for me to (at last) update my system and my distribution. Been > using linux (hmmmmm......) since 1993, so I know my way around and have > done enough with different distros that switching isn't going to be a > problem to me. (OK, stop laughing...I HOPE that switching won't be a > problem) > > It may be a tall order but I'd like to: > > 1. buy a new CPU/motherboard and RAM that has most stuff built in (I'm not > a 3-d gamer, so the latest/greatest/most-crash-prone graphics don't > interest me. > 2. use the PC to run servers that I am now running: apache, qmail, ezmlm, > spamassassin, clamav, courier-vpopmail, etc. > 3. do my general work on the PC--(easy stuff--OoO, K3B, kmail, listen to > various forms of audio & watch a few videos) > > As I mentioned I run a mail server + several small mailing lists. When I > switch from old server to new, I don't want to have a lot of downtime. > > I don't want to go out and buy a CPU/mb/RAM and then find out that I have > problems getting the on-board ports (network/audio/video/usb/firewire,etc) > working. > > So, my questions are: > > Is there a hardware compatibility list? > Is there "preferred" hardware? (I prefer AMD CPUs. ) > Is this the list where I should be asking these questions???? (if not, > where should I ask) > > Thanks for any help, this may help http://www.linux-drivers.org/ > > Mark From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Mar 11 15:50:29 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:50:29 +0000 Subject: Edgy and APT-pinning In-Reply-To: <871wjwt2j0.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <20070311084433.68bcac57@oldrocker> <871wjwt2j0.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <20070311155029.572611bc@oldrocker> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:58:43 +1100 Daniel Pittman wrote: > As a non-core comment though, don't do that. You /really/ don't want to > try and run a system that is a mix of two releases. In short order you > will wind up in a stick mess that just doesn't work correctly. I understand that, but what I want is to give a third party repository a lower level of pinning than the ubuntu repositories. I had a problem a while back before I reinstalled Kubuntu that I could not get dvd::rip to install. The problem was that my sources.list gave exactly the same priority to the tuxfamily.org repositories as the ubuntu repositories. Consequently, they installed a package which prevented dvd::rip and transcode from installing. When I had reinstalled Kubuntu, dvd::rip installed fine from the ubuntu repositories and before I allow the tuxfamily.org repositories to add any more conflicting code, I wanted to see if it was possible to pin a repository at a lower status, not just a different release. The tuxfamily.org repositories are for edgy, but hold packages I can't find elsewhere. I wanted to find out whether I could pin the tuxfamily.org repository at a lower level to reduce conflicts. -- Graham From yanivtoben at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 17:26:20 2007 From: yanivtoben at yahoo.com (Yaniv Toben) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: newbie questions Message-ID: <228598.80597.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi to all the kubuntu users, I just installed kubuntu for the first time on my acer aspire laptop , kubuntu works great, but as a newbie I have some difficulties installing the wireless driver and codecs for mp3 and the sort. If someone here can give me a step-by-step instructions on how to install and operate all the above, it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. some specs: acer aspire 5040 windows xp home amd Turion64 2.0 ghz 1GB ram kubuntu 6.10 kernel 2.6.17 --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! 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Larry From kyle.hamar at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 18:24:12 2007 From: kyle.hamar at gmail.com (Kyle Hamar) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:24:12 -0700 Subject: KMenu and Multiple Users In-Reply-To: <200703111335.27330.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703111335.27330.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: On 3/11/07, Larry Hartman wrote: > I spent a good bit of time making changes to my KMenu that make sense to me > and my family. How do I transfer this new menu arrangement from my account > to other user accounts? Just copy your .desktop files from the terminal. First, locate the new files created for your (local) user. These should be located in your home folder (probably at ~/.local/share/applications). Each new entry in your menu will be a *.desktop file. Copy these files to: /usr/share/applications Change the ownership to root:root with +r for users, groups, other All other users will then have the menu entries you have created. Removing files from this location should reverse the process - although removing items you did not create may not be so simple. K. From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Sun Mar 11 21:44:01 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:44:01 -0600 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? Message-ID: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Codeweavers? Any known issues? From jferrando at netplc.com Sun Mar 11 22:09:51 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:09:51 +0100 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45F47E2F.4010105@netplc.com> I run both. vmware server works (VMware-server-1.0.2-39867.tar.gz) fine and so does codeweavers. What I don't like about crossover if how the window manager interacts with KDE, dialog window "focus" usually is a mess. Kevin Kempter escribió: > Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Codeweavers? > > Any known issues? > > From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Sun Mar 11 23:38:29 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:38:29 -0600 Subject: Best install method? Message-ID: <200703111738.29080.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; I'm going to install Kubuntu Drapper Drake(6.06) on a laptop which I will use as a portable server/desktop combo. Is it better to boot the live DVD and choose the install icon on the desktop, or to choose one of the install methods from the boot menu? Do they both accomplish the same insallation? Thanks in advance... From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 11 23:49:57 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:49:57 -0400 Subject: KDE and Virtual Desktop Size Message-ID: <200703111949.58143.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> My laptop display is set at 1440x900, this is also the size of the desktop. When I attempt to resize the desktop to 2880x1800 (4x the original size) via xorg.conf, x server places the KDM login window exactly on the bottom right corner of the screen (showing only the upper right corner of the login window). When I log in to GNOME, I can set the virtual desktop size within GNOME itself, not X11. Any such utility for KDE? I would like to see what the effects are of having a desktop larger than my actual monitor resolution. From daniel at rimspace.net Mon Mar 12 00:22:44 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:22:44 +1100 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <87ps7fs42z.fsf@rimspace.net> Kevin Kempter writes: > Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Yes. > Codeweavers? No, but I do run the free Wine package, the basis of the Codeweavers releases. > Any known issues? No. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Mon Mar 12 00:22:01 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:22:01 +1100 Subject: Edgy and APT-pinning References: <20070311084433.68bcac57@oldrocker> <871wjwt2j0.fsf@rimspace.net> <20070311155029.572611bc@oldrocker> Message-ID: <87tzwrs446.fsf@rimspace.net> Graham writes: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:58:43 +1100 > Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> As a non-core comment though, don't do that. You /really/ don't want >> to try and run a system that is a mix of two releases. In short >> order you will wind up in a stick mess that just doesn't work >> correctly. > > I understand that, but what I want is to give a third party repository > a lower level of pinning than the ubuntu repositories. You do know that using third party repositories, especially when they are of a quality that they generate conflicts with core packages, is an invitation to problem, right? [...] > When I had reinstalled Kubuntu, dvd::rip installed fine from the > ubuntu repositories and before I allow the tuxfamily.org repositories > to add any more conflicting code, I wanted to see if it was possible > to pin a repository at a lower status, not just a different release. > The tuxfamily.org repositories are for edgy, but hold packages I can't > find elsewhere. > > I wanted to find out whether I could pin the tuxfamily.org repository > at a lower level to reduce conflicts. Yes, you probably can, if they generate their packages correctly. The apt_preferences(5) manual page details using an origin based pin for packages, allowing you to specific a lower priority for anything they release than anything Ubuntu release. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From golfbuf at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 02:15:36 2007 From: golfbuf at gmail.com (golfer) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:15:36 -0400 Subject: KDE and Virtual Desktop Size In-Reply-To: <200703111949.58143.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703111949.58143.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <835a7820703111915s7e944730of80404a8f0ec120c@mail.gmail.com> On 3/11/07, Larry Hartman wrote: > window). When I log in to GNOME, I can set the virtual desktop size within > GNOME itself, not X11. Any such utility for KDE? I would like to see what Don't know of any, but you can probably edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file and achieve what you want. Maybe the GreeterPos=50,50 could be adjusted (or something else) .. you'll have to try it. regards, From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 12 02:27:31 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:27:31 -0400 Subject: KDE and Virtual Desktop Size In-Reply-To: <835a7820703111915s7e944730of80404a8f0ec120c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703111949.58143.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <835a7820703111915s7e944730of80404a8f0ec120c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703112227.31760.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Ok, got it figured out, kinda cool. I did end up setting xorg.conf to 2880 x 1800. I also started KDE and ran gnome-display-properties in the run dialog. When you change the xorg to a new virtual desktop size, gnome-display-properties add the new size to its drop down choices. In KControl Login Manager there is a X-Pos, Y-Pos setting that will move the login dialog up-down, left-right as needed. I am gonna fiddle with the larger desktop a bit and work out some navigational issues. On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:15:36 pm golfer wrote: > On 3/11/07, Larry Hartman wrote: > > window). When I log in to GNOME, I can set the virtual desktop size > > within GNOME itself, not X11. Any such utility for KDE? I would like to > > see what > > Don't know of any, but you can probably edit the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc > file and achieve what you want. Maybe the GreeterPos=50,50 could be > adjusted (or something else) .. you'll have to try it. > > regards, From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Mar 12 02:50:22 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:50:22 -0500 Subject: KDE and Virtual Desktop Size In-Reply-To: <200703112227.31760.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703111949.58143.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <835a7820703111915s7e944730of80404a8f0ec120c@mail.gmail.com> <200703112227.31760.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703112250.22387.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:27 pm, Larry Hartman wrote: > Ok, got it figured out, kinda cool. Here's another thing. If you have both GNOME and KDE installed, and GNOME is getting this right, how much time do you actually spend at the login screen anyway? Does it matter that much to use the off-color login manager? You can set GDM to be your login manager, and start KDE from GDM. I misremember all the details, but it's some /etc/alternatives thing I think. The default Kubuntu KDM is hacked up to look just like GDM anyway, except in blue instead of brown. The difference is pretty trivial; at least out of the box. -- D. Michael McIntyre From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Mon Mar 12 06:27:57 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:27:57 -0400 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner,noauto] Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 Is this way I'm supposed to give these partitions to user jtwdyp ??? /etc/fstab contains: /dev/hda10 ext2 /home/jtwdyp/hda10 ext2 defaults,owner,noauto 0 2 And similar lines for the other 2 partitions... Anyway it seams to work the way I want. The user, jtwdyp, can mount or umount these file systems at will. but any body else would need admin privileges. That is it works until the next reboot... Or maybe it's during the shut down. But something keeps doing the equivalent of: chown root:disk /dev/hda* So every time I restart kubuntu on the multi boot pc, I gotta chown it back... Can anyone tell me how to stop kubuntu from taking these partitions away from jtwdyp every time I reboot??? ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9PIQRZ/61mwhY94RAl4IAJ0VujwqF8pA36WzvONcAjWjO+M7hACglwIa VHUDdIwpRxFUhDNHSn5DVdo= =wd9N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | ~^~ ~^~ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From lmth at deakin.edu.au Mon Mar 12 06:47:13 2007 From: lmth at deakin.edu.au (lmth at deakin.edu.au) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:47:13 +1100 Subject: A request for your input. Message-ID: <20070312174713.73hm9pirhcoksg0c@mail.deakin.edu.au> Hello My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University Australia. I am currently researching the boundary between work and leisure activities directly related to the open source community and open source program development. As part of this I am running a survey at the following address. https://dcarf.deakin.edu.au/surveys/oss/ The survey is completely confidential and looks at your views and motivations to use Open Source software and to participate in the community. It will only take a five to ten minutes to complete and your contact details will not be recorded. You can withdraw your participation at any stage. I sincerely apologize for the spammish nature of this e-mail - I don't mean to abuse this list. I am trying to collect responses from as many open source developers and users as possible and a mailing list like can be the only way to reach many developers. Thanks again Lara P.S The program that I am using is open source, of course (www.phpsurveyor.org)! From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Mon Mar 12 07:12:39 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:12:39 -0400 Subject: A request for your input. In-Reply-To: <20070312174713.73hm9pirhcoksg0c@mail.deakin.edu.au> References: <20070312174713.73hm9pirhcoksg0c@mail.deakin.edu.au> Message-ID: <45F4FD67.7050102@optonline.net> Your survey seems to assume that anyone using OSS is a developer. I am not. I am a teacher and a translator. I know nothing of software development. I find it difficult to give accurate responses to your survey questions, because the options do not accurately reflect the truth of my situation. Anthony Baldwin lmth at deakin.edu.au wrote: >Hello > >My name is Lara Thynne and I am a PhD candidate at Deakin University >Australia. I am currently researching the boundary between work and >leisure activities directly related to the open source community and >open source program development. > >As part of this I am running a survey at the following address. > >https://dcarf.deakin.edu.au/surveys/oss/ > > > -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 12 09:49:56 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:49:56 -0400 Subject: KDE and Virtual Desktop Size In-Reply-To: <200703112250.22387.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200703111949.58143.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <200703112227.31760.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <200703112250.22387.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703120549.56211.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> KDM gets the screen res right at login dialog, the KDE profile will reload after end session, but not after computer restart. User must run gnome-display-properties after restart to reenable settings. More experimentation.....for another day. On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:50:22 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:27 pm, Larry Hartman wrote: > > Ok, got it figured out, kinda cool. > > Here's another thing. If you have both GNOME and KDE installed, and GNOME > is getting this right, how much time do you actually spend at the login > screen anyway? Does it matter that much to use the off-color login > manager? You can set GDM to be your login manager, and start KDE from GDM. > I misremember all the details, but it's some /etc/alternatives thing I > think. The default Kubuntu KDM is hacked up to look just like GDM anyway, > except in blue instead of brown. The difference is pretty trivial; at > least out of the box. -- > D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 10:36:44 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:36:44 +0200 Subject: cant dist-upgrade, broken repository ?? In-Reply-To: <45F4180B.5090307@wanadoo.fr> References: <45F04D85.2030500@wanadoo.fr> <200703092209.37796.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45F4180B.5090307@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <200703121236.44940.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Mmmh... "my bug" disappeared - repository was most probably updated... Good thing. > Concerning the kept back thing, it looks like the packages that can't be > updated depend on other unavailable packages (try to install the > dependencies of the new packages in apt to find which one ?) , or that > you're just updating and not using 'dist-upgrade' (the simple apt update > can't install/remove new packages) Well, I eventually tried dist-upgrade and it removed the dvd+rw-tools package entirely - so now I can't write dvds anymore. When I try to install that package it indicates a broken situation again. Weird. I don't have time to fight with packages now so it's just gonna linger for a while. (Besides I'm no good at it) /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 10:40:25 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:40:25 +0200 Subject: Hardware list--new PC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703121240.25811.donn.ingle@gmail.com> In case it helps, My new machine gave the below on an lshw. So far all working. I have no SATA drives (only IDE). /d description: Desktop Computer width: 32 bits capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3 configuration: boot=normal chassis=desktop *-core description: Motherboard product: NV-MCP55 vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 version: x.x serial: Mon Jul 17 15:26:07 2006 *-firmware description: BIOS vendor: Award Software International, Inc. physical id: 0 version: F2 (05/26/2006) size: 128KB capacity: 448KB capabilities: pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification *-cpu:0 description: CPU product: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 3 bus info: cpu at 0 version: 15.3.2 slot: Socket M2 size: 2600MHz capacity: 3200MHz width: 64 bits clock: 200MHz capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy *-cache:0 description: L1 cache physical id: b slot: Internal Cache size: 128KB capacity: 128KB capabilities: synchronous internal write-back *-cache:1 description: L2 cache physical id: d slot: External Cache size: 1MB capacity: 1MB capabilities: synchronous internal write-back *-cpu:1 description: CPU product: Athlon ( ) vendor: AMD physical id: 4 bus info: cpu at 1 version: 15.3.2 slot: Socket M2 size: 2600MHz capacity: 3200MHz clock: 200MHz *-cache:0 description: L1 cache physical id: c slot: Internal Cache size: 128KB capacity: 128KB capabilities: synchronous internal write-back *-cache:1 DISABLED description: L2 cache physical id: e slot: External Cache size: 1MB capacity: 1MB capabilities: synchronous internal write-through *-memory:0 description: System Memory physical id: 1b slot: System board or motherboard size: 1GB capacity: 2GB *-bank:0 description: DIMM 400 MHz (2.5 ns) physical id: 0 slot: A0 size: 1GB width: 64 bits clock: 400MHz (2.5ns) *-bank:1 description: DIMM 400 MHz (2.5 ns) [empty] physical id: 1 slot: A1 width: 64 bits clock: 400MHz (2.5ns) *-bank:2 description: DIMM 400 MHz (2.5 ns) [empty] physical id: 2 slot: A2 width: 64 bits clock: 400MHz (2.5ns) *-bank:3 description: DIMM 400 MHz (2.5 ns) [empty] physical id: 3 slot: A3 width: 64 bits clock: 400MHz (2.5ns) *-memory:1 UNCLAIMED description: RAM memory product: MCP55 Memory Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 5 bus info: pci at 00:00.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz (15.1515ns) capabilities: bus_master cap_list *-isa UNCLAIMED description: ISA bridge product: MCP55 LPC Bridge vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 1 bus info: pci at 00:01.0 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: isa bus_master *-serial UNCLAIMED description: SMBus product: MCP55 SMBus vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 1.1 bus info: pci at 00:01.1 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: cap_list resources: ioport:1c00-1c3f ioport:1c80-1cbf irq:11 *-memory:2 UNCLAIMED description: RAM memory product: MCP55 Memory Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 1.2 bus info: pci at 00:01.2 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz (15.1515ns) *-usb:0 description: USB Controller product: MCP55 USB Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci at 00:02.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ohci bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ohci_hcd resources: iomemory:fb006000-fb006fff irq:15 *-usbhost product: OHCI Host Controller vendor: Linux 2.6.15-28-386 ohci_hcd physical id: 1 bus info: usb at 1 logical name: usb1 version: 2.06 capabilities: usb-1.10 configuration: driver=hub maxpower=0mA slots=10 speed=12.0MB/s *-usb:1 description: USB Controller product: MCP55 USB Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 2.1 bus info: pci at 00:02.1 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=ehci_hcd resources: iomemory:fb00a000-fb00a0ff irq:5 *-usbhost product: EHCI Host Controller vendor: Linux 2.6.15-28-386 ehci_hcd physical id: 1 bus info: usb at 2 logical name: usb2 version: 2.06 capabilities: usb-2.00 configuration: driver=hub maxpower=0mA slots=10 speed=480.0MB/s *-usb description: Mass storage device product: USB 2.0 Storage Device vendor: Datafab Systems, Inc. physical id: 2 bus info: usb at 2:2 logical name: scsi6 version: 1.04 serial: 000010001000000 capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=500mA speed=480.0MB/s *-disk description: SCSI Disk product: Storage Device vendor: USB 2.0 physical id: 0.0.0 bus info: scsi at 6:0.0.0 logical name: /dev/sda version: 0100 serial: USB 2.0 Storage Device 0100 size: 111GB capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos *-volume description: Linux filesystem partition physical id: 1 bus info: scsi at 6:0.0.0,1 logical name: /dev/sda1 capacity: 111GB capabilities: primary *-ide:0 description: IDE interface product: MCP55 IDE vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 7 bus info: pci at 00:04.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=AMD_IDE resources: ioport:f000-f00f *-ide description: IDE Channel 0 physical id: 0 bus info: ide at 0 logical name: ide0 clock: 66MHz *-disk:0 description: ATA Disk product: ST3120022A vendor: Seagate physical id: 0 bus info: ide at 0.0 logical name: /dev/hda version: 3.54 serial: 3JS14ZHH size: 111GB capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm partitioned partitioned:dos configuration: mode=udma5 smart=on *-volume:0 description: Linux filesystem partition physical id: 1 bus info: ide at 0.0,1 logical name: /dev/hda1 capacity: 18GB capabilities: primary bootable *-volume:1 description: Linux swap / Solaris partition physical id: 2 bus info: ide at 0.0,2 logical name: /dev/hda2 capacity: 1027MB capabilities: primary nofs *-volume:2 description: Linux filesystem partition physical id: 3 bus info: ide at 0.0,3 logical name: /dev/hda3 capacity: 92GB capabilities: primary *-disk:1 description: ATA Disk product: Maxtor 6H500R0 vendor: Maxtor physical id: 1 bus info: ide at 0.1 logical name: /dev/hdb version: HA3D1DD0 serial: H814XHWH size: 465GB capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm apm partitioned partitioned:dos configuration: apm=off mode=udma6 smart=on *-volume description: Linux filesystem partition physical id: 1 bus info: ide at 0.1,1 logical name: /dev/hdb1 capacity: 465GB capabilities: primary *-ide:1 description: IDE interface product: MCP55 SATA Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 9 bus info: pci at 00:05.0 logical name: scsi0 logical name: scsi1 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list scsi-host configuration: driver=sata_nv resources: ioport:a400-a407 ioport:a800-a803 ioport:ac00-ac07 ioport:b000-b003 ioport:b400-b40f iomemory:fb00b000-fb00bfff irq:15 *-ide:2 description: IDE interface product: MCP55 SATA Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 5.1 bus info: pci at 00:05.1 logical name: scsi2 logical name: scsi3 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list scsi-host configuration: driver=sata_nv resources: ioport:b800-b807 ioport:bc00-bc03 ioport:c000-c007 ioport:c400-c403 ioport:c800-c80f iomemory:fb004000-fb004fff irq:10 *-ide:3 description: IDE interface product: MCP55 SATA Controller vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 5.2 bus info: pci at 00:05.2 logical name: scsi4 logical name: scsi5 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: ide bus_master cap_list scsi-host configuration: driver=sata_nv resources: ioport:cc00-cc07 ioport:d000-d003 ioport:d400-d407 ioport:d800-d803 ioport:dc00-dc0f iomemory:fb005000-fb005fff irq:11 *-pci:0 description: PCI bridge product: nVidia Corporation vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 6 bus info: pci at 00:06.0 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL-8029(AS) vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 8 bus info: pci at 01:08.0 logical name: eth0 version: 00 serial: 00:00:e8:e4:25:8a width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: ethernet physical configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ne2k-pci driverversion=1.03 ip=172.16.200.1 multicast=yes resources: ioport:9000-901f irq:5 *-multimedia description: Multimedia controller product: nVidia Corporation vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 6.1 bus info: pci at 00:06.1 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=HDA Intel resources: iomemory:fb000000-fb003fff irq:10 *-bridge description: Ethernet interface product: MCP55 Ethernet vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 8 bus info: pci at 00:08.0 logical name: eth2 version: a2 serial: 00:16:e6:5a:19:85 size: 10000000 capacity: 1000000000 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: bridge bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegociation configuration: autonegociation=on broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.54 duplex=half ip=172.1.57.22 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s resources: iomemory:fb007000-fb007fff ioport:e400-e407 iomemory:fb008000-fb0080ff iomemory:fb009000-fb00900f irq:15 *-pci:1 description: PCI bridge product: nVidia Corporation vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: f bus info: pci at 00:0f.0 version: a2 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=pcieport-driver *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: nVidia Corporation vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci at 02:00.0 version: a1 size: 256MB width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: vga bus_master cap_list configuration: driver=nvidia resources: iomemory:f8000000-f8ffffff iomemory:e0000000-efffffff iomemory:f9000000-f9ffffff irq:11 *-pci:2 description: Host bridge product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 100 bus info: pci at 00:18.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-pci:3 description: Host bridge product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 101 bus info: pci at 00:18.1 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-pci:4 description: Host bridge product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 102 bus info: pci at 00:18.2 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz *-pci:5 description: Host bridge product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] physical id: 103 bus info: pci at 00:18.3 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz -- He's the type of man who will end up dying in his own arms. -- Mamie Van Doren (about Warren Beatty) From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 12 10:45:03 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:45:03 -0400 Subject: KDE and Virtual Desktop Size In-Reply-To: <200703120549.56211.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703111949.58143.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <200703112250.22387.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200703120549.56211.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703120645.04040.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Post to my post: KDE handles the change, but not smoothly. Windows are set to open throughout the desktop space, leading to some windows opening off screen. This requires that each application window be set to load at a certain location initially. Another concern is the lack of immediate access to KMenu. Perhaps one way around this is to assign Katapult to a keyboard shortcut. Another way would be to assign KMenu to the desktop right click menu. Also, the mounted device icons are removed from the desktop after switching to the larger screen. To work in with the larger virtual desktop would require a some study to make it efficient, but there exists enough baseline functionality to make it promising at some point in the not-to-distant future. On Monday 12 March 2007 05:49:56 am Larry Hartman wrote: > KDM gets the screen res right at login dialog, the KDE profile will reload > after end session, but not after computer restart. User must run > gnome-display-properties after restart to reenable settings. More > experimentation.....for another day. > > On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:50:22 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:27 pm, Larry Hartman wrote: > > > Ok, got it figured out, kinda cool. > > > > Here's another thing. If you have both GNOME and KDE installed, and > > GNOME is getting this right, how much time do you actually spend at the > > login screen anyway? Does it matter that much to use the off-color login > > manager? You can set GDM to be your login manager, and start KDE from > > GDM. I misremember all the details, but it's some /etc/alternatives thing > > I think. The default Kubuntu KDM is hacked up to look just like GDM > > anyway, except in blue instead of brown. The difference is pretty > > trivial; at least out of the box. -- > > D. Michael McIntyre From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Mon Mar 12 12:29:28 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:29:28 -0600 Subject: how to get kdevelop? Message-ID: <200703120629.28165.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; where can I get packages like Kdevelop, Cervisa and Kompare for Kubuntu ? Thanks in advance From oli at aurait.eu Mon Mar 12 12:44:59 2007 From: oli at aurait.eu (Olivier Picquenot) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:44:59 +0100 Subject: how to get kdevelop? In-Reply-To: <200703120629.28165.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703120629.28165.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45F54B4B.8030308@aurait.eu> Kevin Kempter a écrit : > Hi List; > > where can I get packages like Kdevelop, Cervisa and Kompare for Kubuntu ? > > Thanks in advance > kdevelop3 and kompare are included in universe. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu From sniffy at rogers.com Mon Mar 12 12:47:15 2007 From: sniffy at rogers.com (Chris Gow) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:47:15 -0400 Subject: how to get kdevelop? In-Reply-To: <200703120629.28165.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703120629.28165.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200703120847.15394.sniffy@rogers.com> On Monday 12 March 2007 08:29:28 Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > where can I get packages like Kdevelop, Cervisa and Kompare for Kubuntu ? > > Thanks in advance You should be able to get them from within adept by searching for kdevelop, cervisia and kompare -- chris From daniel at rimspace.net Mon Mar 12 13:02:12 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 00:02:12 +1100 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] References: Message-ID: <873b4asjhn.fsf@rimspace.net> "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" writes: > chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 > Is this way I'm supposed to give these partitions to user jtwdyp ??? Not in a world with udev, no. > /etc/fstab contains: > /dev/hda10 ext2 /home/jtwdyp/hda10 ext2 defaults,owner,noauto 0 2 > > And similar lines for the other 2 partitions... > > Anyway it seams to work the way I want. The user, jtwdyp, can mount or > umount these file systems at will. but any body else would need admin > privileges. Are you sure it wouldn't be better to permit jtwdyp to mount and unmount them as root, using sudo, without a password? (or even with one?) > That is it works until the next reboot... Or maybe it's during the > shut down. But something keeps doing the equivalent of: > > chown root:disk /dev/hda* > > So every time I restart kubuntu on the multi boot pc, I gotta chown it > back... Can anyone tell me how to stop kubuntu from taking these > partitions away from jtwdyp every time I reboot??? Yes: you need to modify the udev rules, which are invoked during the hardware discovery phase of boot, so they give the ownership you expect to those devices. You can learn more about this in the udev documentation, found on your Ubuntu system. Once you have updated the rules don't forget to update your initramfs images so that the rules in there are also up to date. Alternately you can move away from udev and use a static /dev directory, but I couldn't recommend that on Ubuntu; you would have non-trivial work keeping that running smoothly. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Mar 12 13:11:48 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:11:48 -0500 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703120911.48895.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Monday 12 March 2007 2:27 am, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > That is it works until the next reboot... This is udev in action. If you boot from a CD, for example, and have a look at your installed / partition on that hard drive, you'll find its /dev directory is mostly empty. Udev populates it at boot time. I don't know how you can twiddle this, but that's where to start. There's probably some /etc/udev.something you can edit to override the defaults. Or you can cheat and create an init script to run the chown at every boot. -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Mar 12 13:19:04 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:19:04 -0500 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: <873b4asjhn.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <873b4asjhn.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703120919.04441.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Monday 12 March 2007 9:02 am, Daniel Pittman wrote: > Alternately you can move away from udev and use a static /dev directory, > but I couldn't recommend that on Ubuntu; you would have non-trivial work > keeping that running smoothly. I'll second that assertion. I tried that around the time the old hotplug packages got deprecated. "Non-trivial" is probably understated. It's a real spaghetti bowl of duct tape trying to get that mess to hold together. Easier, and more sensible by far to go with the flow, and work with udev. -- D. Michael McIntyre From oli at aurait.eu Mon Mar 12 13:23:16 2007 From: oli at aurait.eu (Olivier Picquenot) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:23:16 +0100 Subject: how to get kdevelop? In-Reply-To: <45F54B4B.8030308@aurait.eu> References: <200703120629.28165.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <45F54B4B.8030308@aurait.eu> Message-ID: <45F55444.2080405@aurait.eu> Olivier Picquenot a écrit : > kdevelop3 and kompare are included in universe. > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu > Cervisia is in the universe repository too. Package: cervisia Priority: optional Section: universe/devel Package: kdevelop3 Priority: optional Section: universe/kde Package: kompare Priority: optional Section: universe/devel From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Mon Mar 12 14:54:16 2007 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:54:16 -0500 Subject: Problems with KDE 3.5.6 picwiz Image Resizing Message-ID: <200703121054.17226.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> I select an image in Konqueror, right-click and choose re-size. In the dialog I choose a Custom size then enter my dimensions. "Overwrite" is left unchecked. "Next" is clicked. The same filename is shown under "Processed Files" with an "(OK)" after it's name. "Finish" is clicked. A new file exists with the same name and "-640x480" appended. The new file has the same dimensions as the original file and in all other respects is a copy of the original file. A minor error is that the wrong size is appended to the filename. The major problem is that the file is unchanged. Is my system incorrectly configured? An error this large could not have slipped past developers. Any information or help is most appreciated. Bob -- One picture is worth 128K words. From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Mon Mar 12 14:58:15 2007 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:58:15 -0500 Subject: Picwiz Problem -- More Info Message-ID: <200703121058.16052.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Something that may be relevant: In the Actions menu, all other actions have normal icons while the option Resize has a generic document icon. Does this mean something isn't installed correctly? Hope this helps, Bob From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Mon Mar 12 15:59:11 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:59:11 -0500 Subject: kickoff and recent apps Message-ID: <45F578CF.7050902@cern.ch> Hi everybody, I installed the kickoff menu and I really like it but for some reason it doesn't show the recent applications. Do you know where is the kickoff configuration file and where does it write the recent applications to be shown in the menu? Thanks a lot, G -- -------------------------- Gianluca Cerminara Tel. FNAL +1 630 840 4273 Tel. CERN +41 (0)22 76 71519 Tel. TO +39 011 670 7372 From linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 12 16:00:03 2007 From: linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk (linux_smz) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:00:03 +0000 Subject: users Message-ID: <45F57903.2050306@yahoo.co.uk> I have just installed kubuntu for the first time. however when i tried creating new users they could not log into the system from the login screen at the start. am i supposed to put them in some sort of specific group or am i wayyy off course. From linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 12 16:01:59 2007 From: linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk (linux_smz) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:01:59 +0000 Subject: having trouble installing kubuntu In-Reply-To: <45F17BD5.6090408@yahoo.co.uk> References: <45F17BD5.6090408@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <45F57977.8000208@yahoo.co.uk> linux_smz wrote: > i am trying to build a machine to hold my excess of files away from my > windows machine as in the past i have had to clear it around twice a > year to fix all the annoying windows problems. i decided to use > kubuntu as i had used it before for a similar purpose for my friend. > however when i run the disk i get unto kubuntu and start the install > it goes through the options as normal but when it starts the > installation it tells me it cannot find a root directory. does anyone > know what this problem could be caused by and how do I fix it. > -- > Get Thunderbird I tried the same drive in another pc with a different m-board and it went fine. 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URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 16:45:33 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:45:33 +0200 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <880dece00703120945s3ee8090ax1c0f9ad5139a8596@mail.gmail.com> On 11/03/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Codeweavers? > > Any known issues? > There are actually hundreds of known issues. What are you trying to run? Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/eng/thunderstang.php http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/287/k_s_choice.html From veritastic at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 17:29:51 2007 From: veritastic at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:29:51 -0400 Subject: Warcraft Through WINE Message-ID: Hello folks, Last night I followed the steps listed in the Ubuntu Community Help for installing World of Warcraft. I had it easy, since I could just copy the files from my Windows partition into a new directory in Kubuntu. I followed the steps listed for WINE, and when I try to run it I get errors about World of Warcraft not able to start 3D acceleration. Now, I have a crappy video card, I know, its an intel that came in my stupid Dell box. How would I go about fixing this? I cannot even get the game to open. I did manage to for about a minute by adding -d3d after the command line launch, but then it locked up my computer and sent it into a strange console looking screen and had to hard reboot. Even when it was running, the graphics were screwed, with terrain being one long color blob instead of what it should have been. Any similar cases out there? Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Mar 12 18:19:28 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:19:28 +0000 Subject: Best install method? In-Reply-To: <200703111738.29080.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703111738.29080.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45F599B0.6010900@blueyonder.co.uk> Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > I'm going to install Kubuntu Drapper Drake(6.06) on a laptop which I will use > as a portable server/desktop combo. > > Is it better to boot the live DVD and choose the install icon on the desktop, > or to choose one of the install methods from the boot menu? > > Do they both accomplish the same insallation? > > Thanks in advance... > > With the DVD you have a choice of installs, you can boot the live session and install from that, or you can choose the text mode install. Both these will install the same sat of packages and give you the same desktop. Which you choose depends on your system, the live installer requires more RAM (any modern PC will be fine) than the text install but gives you a usable system while you install. From the boot menu, other than the text install, there are a couple of other options, eg: server install. You won't want that as the server install is the same as the desktop install, except no desktop. So it will be command line only, tho you can install the desktop after. If you want a standard install, just boot the live session, and click the install icon on the desktop. That should give you what you want. Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Mar 12 18:22:10 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:22:10 +0000 Subject: users In-Reply-To: <45F57903.2050306@yahoo.co.uk> References: <45F57903.2050306@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <45F59A52.10005@blueyonder.co.uk> linux_smz wrote: > I have just installed kubuntu for the first time. however when i tried > creating new users they could not log into the system from the login > screen at the start. am i supposed to put them in some sort of specific > group or am i wayyy off course. > > Users don't need to be in a specific group to be able to login, so that's not it. How are you creating these new users? Are you using the User Management section in System Settings? Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Mar 12 18:27:53 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:27:53 +0000 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F59BA9.9060000@blueyonder.co.uk> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 > > Is this way I'm supposed to give these partitions to user jtwdyp ??? > > /etc/fstab contains: > > /dev/hda10 ext2 /home/jtwdyp/hda10 ext2 defaults,owner,noauto 0 2 > > And similar lines for the other 2 partitions... > > Anyway it seams to work the way I want. The user, jtwdyp, can mount or > umount these file systems at will. but any body else would need admin > privileges. > > That is it works until the next reboot... > > Or maybe it's during the shut down. But something keeps doing the > equivalent of: > > chown root:disk /dev/hda* > > So every time I restart kubuntu on the multi boot pc, I gotta chown it > back... Can anyone tell me how to stop kubuntu from taking these > partitions away from jtwdyp every time I reboot??? > > You know what would be a whole lot easier than that? Use "group" instead of "user", then just make sure jtwdyp is in the "disk" group, and other users you don't want to be able to mount/unmount aren't. That would save having to modify udev rules. Tez From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Mon Mar 12 19:09:22 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:09:22 -0600 Subject: Network Device Control GUI tool? Message-ID: <200703121309.23069.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; Is there a Network Device Control GUI tool (I'm running Kubuntu 6.06) that will activate/de-activate my ethernet (both wired and wireless) devices? Thanks in advance From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 19:17:43 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:17:43 -0700 Subject: Warcraft Through WINE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you tried poking around /usr/bin/winecfg? Some settings in there might be wrong. Also, try running a generic screensaver (like flying toasters or bouncing cows). Those will tell you instantly whether the 3D works for even linux. It may be that you - like me - are stuck with a Intel i855GM cpu-writable framebuffer ; ) It's a bad card, don't expect it to do much. Also, it's got to translate from Direct3D/HLSL->OpenGL/GLSL in realtime - cut it some slack ; ) I also know there are quite a few success stories with WoW on linuxquestions.org. Didn't take the time to read 'em 'cause I don't play WoW. Good luck! -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Mar 12 19:28:38 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:28:38 +0000 Subject: Network Device Control GUI tool? In-Reply-To: <200703121309.23069.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703121309.23069.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45F5A9E6.3050309@blueyonder.co.uk> Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > Is there a Network Device Control GUI tool (I'm running Kubuntu 6.06) that > will activate/de-activate my ethernet (both wired and wireless) devices? > > Thanks in advance > > KNetworkManager would be by 1st guess, for wired networks I just use "Network Settings" in System Settings but afaik it won't work the same with wifi. Tez From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Mon Mar 12 22:39:24 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:39:24 -0500 Subject: xemacs and fonts - SOLVED In-Reply-To: <45F045E3.2030405@cern.ch> References: <45F045E3.2030405@cern.ch> Message-ID: <45F5D69C.6040009@cern.ch> I solved the problem creating the file .Xresources (also softlinked to .Xdefaults since I couldn't understand which one is actually used) with the following content: ! This is the font used in the menu bar XEmacs*fontSet: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* XEmacs*menubar*FontSet: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* I applied the changes with xrdb ~/.Xdefaults To select the font you actually want to use you can use xfontsel Ciao G Gianluca Cerminara wrote: > Hello everybody, > I installed xemacs on my 6.10 box. everything is working but I get huge > fonts in the menu bar... > Do you know how to configure that? > Thanks a lot, > G > -- -------------------------- Gianluca Cerminara Tel. FNAL +1 630 840 4273 Tel. CERN +41 (0)22 76 71519 Tel. TO +39 011 670 7372 From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Mon Mar 12 23:37:42 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:37:42 -0600 Subject: Kuickshow? Message-ID: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; How can I install Kuickshow - It doesn't show in the adept package manager. I do have the universe repo's enabled. From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Mon Mar 12 23:39:37 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:39:37 -0600 Subject: Kopete not behaving Message-ID: <200703121739.37733.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; I've just installed Kubuntu Drapper (6.06) and Kopete shows all AIM users as offline plus it doesn't have my contacts once I create the account. Any thoughts From jriddell at ubuntu.com Mon Mar 12 23:46:03 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:46:03 +0000 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kuickshow? In-Reply-To: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <20070312234603.GQ3789@muse.19inch.net> On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:37:42PM -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > How can I install Kuickshow - It doesn't show in the adept package manager. I > do have the universe repo's enabled. It's in NEW, the archive admins need poked to approve it. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=kuickshow Jonathan From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Mon Mar 12 23:59:52 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:59:52 -0400 Subject: Kuickshow? In-Reply-To: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45F5E978.50305@optonline.net> Kevin Kempter wrote: >Hi List; > >How can I install Kuickshow - It doesn't show in the adept package manager. I >do have the universe repo's enabled. > > > Alas...poor kuickshow...I knew him, Horatio, an application of infinite convenience and usefulness.... /tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From tenzero at iinet.net.au Tue Mar 13 00:14:59 2007 From: tenzero at iinet.net.au (Dion) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:14:59 +0900 Subject: OpenOffice Crashing. Message-ID: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> Hi, I'm trying to resolve an openoffice problem with kubuntu edgy. I can start openoffice calc and select a random cell and type some text into it and then as soon as I press enter or tab to a new cell the application crashes. I have tried reinstalls of openoffice, I have tried deleting my .openoffice2 folder. I have tried downloading the latest openoffice from ooo.org. All results are the same. The error messages if I start openoffice from the console are as follows. (process:6566): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2240: initialization assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function (process:6566): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_font_options: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed Google and K/Ubuntu forums have not yielded a solution. Has anyone experienced this or have thoughts? Cheers. Dion. -- "Never ascribe to malice that which may adequately be explained by incompetence." - Napoleon Bonaparte From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Tue Mar 13 00:38:50 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:38:50 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice Crashing. In-Reply-To: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> References: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <200703122038.50318.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> You may want to post this on users at openoffice.org in addition to this list, enrolling on this users list is free and there is generally a lot more activity on this list. On Monday 12 March 2007 08:14:59 pm Dion wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to resolve an openoffice problem with kubuntu edgy. > > I can start openoffice calc and select a random cell and type some text > into it and then as soon as I press enter or tab to a new cell the > application crashes. > > I have tried reinstalls of openoffice, I have tried deleting my > .openoffice2 folder. I have tried downloading the latest openoffice from > ooo.org. > > All results are the same. > > The error messages if I start openoffice from the console are as follows. > > (process:6566): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2240: initialization > assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function > > (process:6566): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_font_options: assertion > `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed > > > Google and K/Ubuntu forums have not yielded a solution. > > Has anyone experienced this or have thoughts? > > Cheers. > Dion. > > -- > "Never ascribe to malice that which may adequately be explained by > incompetence." - Napoleon Bonaparte From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 00:41:48 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:41:48 +0800 Subject: kickoff and recent apps In-Reply-To: <45F578CF.7050902@cern.ch> References: <45F578CF.7050902@cern.ch> Message-ID: <200703130841.49498.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Monday 12 March 2007, Gianluca Cerminara wrote: > Hi everybody, > I installed the kickoff menu and I really like it but for some reason > it doesn't show the recent applications. > Do you know where is the kickoff configuration file and where does it > write the recent applications to be shown in the menu? It's not a standalone app that you need to launch. It's a K Menu replacement, so it should take over your regular K Menu applet/button. You might need to restart Kicker. Press Alt+F2 and enter this command: dcop kicker kicker restart I should warn you though, if you uninstall kickoff, you will have to reinstall the kicker package. Cheers! From devriesbj at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 01:04:34 2007 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:04:34 -0400 Subject: Kuickshow? In-Reply-To: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: Is this the same Kuickshow that I see on sourceforge? It appears there has been no activity for years. Brad. On 3/12/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > How can I install Kuickshow - It doesn't show in the adept package manager. I > do have the universe repo's enabled. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 01:04:55 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: How do I change screen resolution? Message-ID: <541930.61439.qm@web39603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I cannot get a higher screen resolution in Kubuntu or Ubuntu than 1024x768. I know the video card and monitor support higher resolutions because I run much higher using Windows 2K. I checked the screen resolution in both Kubuntu and Ubuntu GUI but 1025x768 is all the higher it shows. Earl This is my xorg.conf file: Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi" # path to defoma fonts FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" EndSection Section "Module" Load "i2c" Load "bitmap" Load "ddc" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "type1" Load "vbe" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "stylus" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "stylus" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "eraser" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "eraser" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "cursor" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "cursor" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]" Driver "ati" BusID "PCI:0:16:0" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "GATEWAY VX90" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]" Monitor "GATEWAY VX90" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 01:07:24 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OpenOffice Crashing. In-Reply-To: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <378322.1081.qm@web39612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you are using OO 2.1, I am having the same problem with Debian Etch on my Sun U60. No help but some sympathy. I finally gave up and went to kspread. Earl > Hi, > > I'm trying to resolve an openoffice problem with kubuntu edgy. > > I can start openoffice calc and select a random cell and type some > text > into it and then as soon as I press enter or tab to a new cell the > application crashes. > > I have tried reinstalls of openoffice, I have tried deleting my > .openoffice2 folder. I have tried downloading the latest openoffice > from > ooo.org. > > All results are the same. > > The error messages if I start openoffice from the console are as > follows. > > (process:6566): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2240: > initialization > assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function > > (process:6566): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_font_options: > assertion > `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed > > > Google and K/Ubuntu forums have not yielded a solution. > > Has anyone experienced this or have thoughts? > > Cheers. > Dion. > > -- > "Never ascribe to malice that which may adequately be explained by > incompetence." - Napoleon Bonaparte > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From daniel at rimspace.net Tue Mar 13 01:34:16 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:34:16 +1100 Subject: How do I change screen resolution? References: <541930.61439.qm@web39603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87zm6iorjb.fsf@rimspace.net> Earl Violet writes: > I cannot get a higher screen resolution in Kubuntu or Ubuntu than > 1024x768. I know the video card and monitor support higher resolutions > because I run much higher using Windows 2K. > > I checked the screen resolution in both Kubuntu and Ubuntu GUI but > 1025x768 is all the higher it shows. Take a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what the X server reports when it is starting up. You will probably find that something causes it to reject the larger modes -- and that will point you in the right direction for fixing the problem. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From bnewell at clear.net.nz Tue Mar 13 03:16:51 2007 From: bnewell at clear.net.nz (Jerome B Newell) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:16:51 +1300 Subject: How do I change screen resolution? In-Reply-To: <541930.61439.qm@web39603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <541930.61439.qm@web39603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1173755812.7757.5.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 18:04 -0700, Earl Violet wrote: : : : > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Default Screen" > Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]" > Monitor "GATEWAY VX90" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Depth 1 > Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" > "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" > EndSubSection Hi Earl, I have had similar problems in the past and I found that dropping the DefaultDepth from 24 down to 16 cured the problem. I also am using ATI 3D Rage graphics card. Also for anybody using Vesa mode, apparantly Vesa can not handle 24 depth graphics and needs to be set for 16 or even 15. Regards Jerome B From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 05:56:37 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:56:37 +0200 Subject: OpenOffice Crashing. In-Reply-To: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> References: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <200703130756.37294.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > (process:6566): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_font_options: assertion > `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed I dunno anything at all, but it mentions font in there -- perhaps you could try other fonts in the ooo settings, or format the entire sheet to use Bitstream or something like that? I could be a ref to a bad font that's doing the damage. hth /d From tenzero at iinet.net.au Tue Mar 13 06:04:29 2007 From: tenzero at iinet.net.au (Dion) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:04:29 +0900 Subject: OpenOffice Crashing. In-Reply-To: <200703130756.37294.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> <200703130756.37294.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F63EED.8080006@iinet.net.au> Donn wrote: >> (process:6566): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_font_options: assertion >> `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed >> > I dunno anything at all, but it mentions font in there -- perhaps you could > try other fonts in the ooo settings, or format the entire sheet to use > Bitstream or something like that? I could be a ref to a bad font that's doing > the damage. > > hth > /d Thanks for the thoughts, I too have tried going through different fonts both in oo setting and the sheet being worked on. I have also tried playing with the kde settings that map gtk font settings to kde preferences. All to no avail sadly. Cheers. D. -- "Never ascribe to malice that which may adequately be explained by incompetence." - Napoleon Bonaparte From kassube at gmx.net Tue Mar 13 08:37:06 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:37:06 +0100 Subject: Kuickshow? In-Reply-To: References: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200703130937.06957.kassube@gmx.net> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:04, Brad De Vries wrote: > Is this the same Kuickshow that I see on sourceforge? It appears > there has been no activity for years. > > Brad. Yes, THAT kuickshow for sure. Granted, there has been no activity for a long time, but "no activity" doesn't mean it is useless. I know at least 3 people (including me) who prefer kuickshow over the applications coming with (k)ubuntu (e.g. gwenview). > On 3/12/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Hi List; > > > > How can I install Kuickshow - It doesn't show in the adept package > > manager. I do have the universe repo's enabled. It seems you have to compile it yourself. Make sure you have these packages installed: gcc make binutils libqt3-headers kdelibs4-dev imlib1 imlib1-dev imlib-base (Hopefully I didn't forget anything vital.) Download the source code from sourceforge to your favourite download directory. Start konsole and cd to that download directory. Then use these commands: tar xfj kuickshow-0.8.5.tar.bz2 cd kuickshow-0.8.5 ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 make sudo make install Nils From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Tue Mar 13 09:54:59 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:54:59 -0400 Subject: How do I change screen resolution? In-Reply-To: <87zm6iorjb.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <541930.61439.qm@web39603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <87zm6iorjb.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703130554.59690.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Also, have you looked at loading the proprietary ATI driver, fglrx module? Does that cover this model of video card? Larry On Monday 12 March 2007 09:34:16 pm Daniel Pittman wrote: > Earl Violet writes: > > I cannot get a higher screen resolution in Kubuntu or Ubuntu than > > 1024x768. I know the video card and monitor support higher resolutions > > because I run much higher using Windows 2K. > > > > I checked the screen resolution in both Kubuntu and Ubuntu GUI but > > 1025x768 is all the higher it shows. > > Take a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what the X server reports when > it is starting up. You will probably find that something causes it to > reject the larger modes -- and that will point you in the right > direction for fixing the problem. > > Regards, > Daniel > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From peterulrich at gmx.net Tue Mar 13 12:55:37 2007 From: peterulrich at gmx.net (Peter Ulrich) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:55:37 +0100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera Message-ID: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, after a new installation of Edgy I can't load my pictures from my camera to my computer. I never had this failure before. I use Digikam for my the management of all my pictures. The picture files are stored in a folder /home/pictures where I have read/write access. The program works fine but since yesterday I can't import any photos from my camera. When I switch on the camera I get the message: USB Imaging Interface - KDE Daemon A new medium has been detected. What do you want to do? Upload photos to Digikam? When I choose this choice the program starts correct but then I get the error message: Failed to list files in /camera The Digikam program auto-detects the camera as Canon Digital IXUS 50 (normal mode) When I first start Digikam and try to open the camera from the program the error message is: Failed to connect to camera. Please make sure its connected properly and turned on. Would you like to try again? The camera is a Canon PowerShot A520. When I don't use the auto-detect function and install this camera type from the offered choices I get the identical error messages. Any hints? Thank you in advance Peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF9p9J5Bmt2gLCWbsRAkiaAJ4utrLaorg4zwWUX3ex5XtEMfoliQCgrIc0 U2kJSDDAoHPqBk57pItVpNQ= =3o20 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 13 13:31:04 2007 From: linux_smz at yahoo.co.uk (linux_smz) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:31:04 +0000 Subject: users In-Reply-To: <45F59A52.10005@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <45F57903.2050306@yahoo.co.uk> <45F59A52.10005@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <45F6A798.3000305@yahoo.co.uk> Tez wrote: > linux_smz wrote: > >> I have just installed kubuntu for the first time. however when i tried >> creating new users they could not log into the system from the login >> screen at the start. am i supposed to put them in some sort of specific >> group or am i wayyy off course. >> >> >> > Users don't need to be in a specific group to be able to login, so > that's not it. > How are you creating these new users? Are you using the User Management > section in System Settings? > > Tez > > > > I created them in the user management in the settings utility. I changed the primary group to the group i used when setting up the original user and they can all log in now. I'm going to experiment a bit more with this and post my findings. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Tue Mar 13 14:14:23 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:14:23 -0500 Subject: kickoff and recent apps In-Reply-To: <200703130841.49498.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <45F578CF.7050902@cern.ch> <200703130841.49498.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F6B1BF.8050209@cern.ch> I know, and kickoff is actually working well, apart from the fact that I can't see any "recently used application"!! Do you have any idea about how to fix this and how recently used applications are handled in the menu? Thanks, G Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Monday 12 March 2007, Gianluca Cerminara wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> I installed the kickoff menu and I really like it but for some reason >> it doesn't show the recent applications. >> Do you know where is the kickoff configuration file and where does it >> write the recent applications to be shown in the menu? > > It's not a standalone app that you need to launch. It's a K Menu replacement, > so it should take over your regular K Menu applet/button. You might need to > restart Kicker. Press Alt+F2 and enter this command: > > dcop kicker kicker restart > > I should warn you though, if you uninstall kickoff, you will have to reinstall > the kicker package. > > Cheers! > > -- -------------------------- Gianluca Cerminara Tel. FNAL +1 630 840 4273 Tel. CERN +41 (0)22 76 71519 Tel. TO +39 011 670 7372 From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Tue Mar 13 16:51:21 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:51:21 -0400 Subject: OpenOffice Crashing. In-Reply-To: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> References: <45F5ED03.7020303@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <1173804681.18233.1179239837@webmail.messagingengine.com> > I'm trying to resolve an openoffice problem with kubuntu edgy. hum edgy > I can start openoffice calc and select a random cell and type some text > into it and then as soon as I press enter or tab to a new cell the > application crashes. I think we already had a beginning of apport by edgy. When crashing, does it suggest to report a bug? If so, you should. If you do 'ls -l /var/crash' do you see openoffice .crash files? > The error messages if I start openoffice from the console are as follows. > > (process:6566): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: gtype.c:2240: initialization > assertion failed, use IA__g_type_init() prior to this function > > (process:6566): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_font_options: assertion > `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed I get the same errors on feisty, but openoffice seems to work well, without any crashing. According to dpkg -l openoffice* I have: ii openoffice.org 2.2.0~rc3~oof6 OpenOffice.org office suite - spreadsheet Obviously crashing is not the normal behaviour, so this is a bug, that you should report. On the other hand, it must have to do with the specific configuration you use, processor, packages installed, because the majority have not this problem. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow From philbieber at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:59:15 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:59:15 +0100 Subject: Kopete not behaving In-Reply-To: <200703121739.37733.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703121739.37733.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703130959h67420f3bjb82d2491543b8198@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Are you sure, that you have the Server Contact List enabled in your old messenger? That is my problem: I thoght, I had enabled it, but it wasn't... So now all my AIM contacts are gone... or better: in the deleted config files of that old messenger... Have a look at your old messenger and make sure, server side contact list is enabled. Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sveri-list at gmx.de Tue Mar 13 19:29:18 2007 From: sveri-list at gmx.de (Sven Richter) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:29:18 +0100 Subject: kdetv crashing Message-ID: <200703132029.18180.sveri-list@gmx.de> Hello, i want to watch tv on my computer. I have an old Videocard with a BT878 chip on it. TV always worked for me until i got a new computer. (The card is the same) If i try to start kdetv it tells me: Unable to grab video. Video display is not possible with the current plugin configuration. Try playing with the configuration options of the V4L2 plugin. Console output gives me: kdetv: WARNING: KXvDevice::rebuildImage: XvCreateImage failed. ASSERT: "xv_image != 0" in /build/buildd/kdetv-0.8.9/./kdetv/kvideoio/kxv.cpp (683) X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 Major opcode: 141 Minor opcode: 17 Resource id: 0x0 Under Windows the card still works. I use feisty Herd5 and have an ATI graphiccard with two monitors plugged in. I installed the actual binary driver from ati website. kdetv works neither under root nor under normal user login. Playing around with the v4l settings didnt help too. No other TV application works. Somebody having an idea what may be the problem? Greetings Sven Richter From snap.dragon at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Mar 13 19:44:33 2007 From: snap.dragon at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:44:33 +0000 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> Message-ID: Peter Ulrich wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi List, > > after a new installation of Edgy I can't load my pictures from my camera > to my computer. I never had this failure before. I use Digikam for my > the management of all my pictures. > > The picture files are stored in a folder /home/pictures where I have > read/write access. The program works fine but since yesterday I can't > import any photos from my camera. When I switch on the camera I get the > message: > > USB Imaging Interface - KDE Daemon > A new medium has been detected. > What do you want to do? > Upload photos to Digikam? > > When I choose this choice the program starts correct but then I get the > error message: > Failed to list files in /camera > > The Digikam program auto-detects the camera as > Canon Digital IXUS 50 (normal mode) > > When I first start Digikam and try to open the camera from the program > the error message is: > Failed to connect to camera. > Please make sure its connected properly > and turned on. > Would you like to try again? > > The camera is a Canon PowerShot A520. When I don't use the auto-detect > function and install this camera type from the offered choices I get the > identical error messages. > > Any hints? > > Thank you in advance > Peter I found this somewhere - apparently it should sort things though I haven't needed to try it yet - copy follows (quote) Binary package hint: libgphoto2-2 The file /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules says in line 3: BUS!="usb*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" while recenly updated udev doesn't produce BUS properties in corresponding event. Thus this line makes the whole file useless, because BUS!="usb*" is never true. Something like SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" instead would work. (end quote) HTH Jim From lists at ptfd.org Tue Mar 13 20:06:42 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:06:42 -0400 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <880dece00703120945s3ee8090ax1c0f9ad5139a8596@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <880dece00703120945s3ee8090ax1c0f9ad5139a8596@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703131606.43322.lists@ptfd.org> On Monday 12 March 2007 12:45:33 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 11/03/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Codeweavers? > > > > Any known issues? > kubuntu edgy VMWare-player with winXP-pro and several legacy apps (database for FD recordkeeping) Also been playing around with codeweavers lcrossover-linux and I like it alot, just have to have .net with the database I am running so it won't do that yet. I would like to migrate to the codeweavers (well really total linux native would be cool) Mike From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 20:48:04 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:48:04 +0200 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703131606.43322.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <880dece00703120945s3ee8090ax1c0f9ad5139a8596@mail.gmail.com> <200703131606.43322.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <880dece00703131348w7f42f155p2d96c95199d240e1@mail.gmail.com> On 13/03/07, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > On Monday 12 March 2007 12:45:33 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On 11/03/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > > Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Codeweavers? > > > > > > Any known issues? > > > kubuntu edgy > VMWare-player with winXP-pro and several legacy apps (database for FD > recordkeeping) > > Also been playing around with codeweavers lcrossover-linux and I like it alot, > just have to have .net with the database I am running so it won't do that > yet. I would like to migrate to the codeweavers (well really total linux > native would be cool) > > Mike > What database? I've started to use OpenOffice Base flatfiles instead of writing my own DB stuff with php and MySQL, and I'm rather happy. Actually, I find it to be rather full-featured and it's increasing my productivity. I just developed a very simple genealogy DB instead of writing a full-fledged app. Probably saved me a few day's coding. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/microsoft.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/46/402/pink_floyd/the_final_cut.html From rjglinux at cox.net Tue Mar 13 21:41:57 2007 From: rjglinux at cox.net (Richard Grant) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:41:57 -0700 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1173822117.10943.2.camel@abitbw7-raidrjg> Hi, I have the same problem. I have a Canon A630 Powershot, and I can't get the pictures to upload through the USB port using DigiKam. Maybe it's just a driver issue? On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 13:55 +0100, Peter Ulrich wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi List, > > after a new installation of Edgy I can't load my pictures from my camera > to my computer. I never had this failure before. I use Digikam for my > the management of all my pictures. > > The picture files are stored in a folder /home/pictures where I have > read/write access. The program works fine but since yesterday I can't > import any photos from my camera. When I switch on the camera I get the > message: > > USB Imaging Interface - KDE Daemon > A new medium has been detected. > What do you want to do? > Upload photos to Digikam? > > When I choose this choice the program starts correct but then I get the > error message: > Failed to list files in /camera > > The Digikam program auto-detects the camera as > Canon Digital IXUS 50 (normal mode) > > When I first start Digikam and try to open the camera from the program > the error message is: > Failed to connect to camera. > Please make sure its connected properly > and turned on. > Would you like to try again? > > The camera is a Canon PowerShot A520. 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URL: From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Tue Mar 13 22:34:36 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:34:36 -0400 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: <873b4asjhn.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <873b4asjhn.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Mar 13, Daniel Pittman did say: > "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" writes: > > > chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 > > Is this way I'm supposed to give these partitions to user jtwdyp ??? > > Not in a world with udev, no. > Oh... "udev" Shoulda guessed that it would have something to do with it. > > /etc/fstab contains: > > /dev/hda10 ext2 /home/jtwdyp/hda10 ext2 defaults,owner,noauto 0 2 <> > > Are you sure it wouldn't be better to permit jtwdyp to mount and unmount > them as root, using sudo, without a password? (or even with one?) > I wouldn't give sudo to a user account I routinely use, any more than I'd routinely run as root. I'm not in complete agreement with the idea that sudo is better than su -c... But the one thing I did agree with was that if the hacker has to guess the user name as well as the password it's harder than cracking an enabled root password because they already know the username... But if the account is routinely used it's likely that I'll forget to check for shoulder surfers sometime when I'm logging in. Thus making it less secure than the root account would have been. Thus: I won't give sudo privileges to any username I use for routine activity. first I gotta su to a suduer account, THEN I can sudo... And doing that every time I want to mount or unmount one of these partitions would be too much like work! > > That is it works until the next reboot... Or maybe it's during the > > shut down. <> > > Yes: you need to modify the udev rules, which are invoked during the > hardware discovery phase of boot, so they give the ownership you expect > to those devices. > > You can learn more about this in the udev documentation, found on your > Ubuntu system. > > Once you have updated the rules don't forget to update your initramfs > images so that the rules in there are also up to date. Thanks for the clues Daniel, but it sounds like more work than sticking the chown command in a script like Michael hinted at. A quick look at man udev shows me that it should be possible, once I find the time to study udev enough. Life is too short! So since it seams like I only have to reset this when I reboot I'm thinking I do have enough time to script it... > > Alternately you can move away from udev and use a static /dev directory, > but I couldn't recommend that on Ubuntu; you would have non-trivial work > keeping that running smoothly. Somehow I don't see "me" setting up a static /dev that works at all, never mind runs smoothly. ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9ybTRZ/61mwhY94RAhPFAJ99IWB3RmNR1mMZ4eA0/+DtOxrnKACeKT9M BPFs4/3Xqe8qWOZlX5yVz8I= =d/5S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <> From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Tue Mar 13 22:39:56 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:39:56 -0400 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: <200703120911.48895.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200703120911.48895.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Mar 12, D. Michael McIntyre did say: > On Monday 12 March 2007 2:27 am, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > That is it works until the next reboot... > > This is udev in action. If you boot from a CD, for example, and have a look > at your installed / partition on that hard drive, you'll find its /dev > directory is mostly empty. Udev populates it at boot time. > > I don't know how you can twiddle this, but that's where to start. There's > probably some /etc/udev.something you can edit to override the defaults. > > Or you can cheat and create an init script to run the chown at every boot. Thanks Michael, Daniel left me some strong clues on how to learn how to tweak udev. But since I don't have the time to master udev right now, I tucked a script to chown them in /root/bin/fix_dev, then did a: ln -s /root/bin/fix_dev /etc/rcS.d/S51fix_dev This seams to have solved the problem Thanks for reminding me that I could roll my own init commands even if debian systems don't use an rc.local script. ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9ygpRZ/61mwhY94RAhLwAJ42jW8ZZEhPzUPsQARAPQv0Ld0eQQCgrf4y OUzQnovVW263B+0ukGIMktw= =XTg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <> From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Tue Mar 13 22:36:45 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:36:45 -0400 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: <45F59BA9.9060000@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <45F59BA9.9060000@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Mar 12, Tez did say: > Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 > > Is this way I'm supposed to give these partitions to user jtwdyp ??? > > /etc/fstab contains: > > /dev/hda10 ext2 /home/jtwdyp/hda10 ext2 defaults,owner,noauto 0 2 > > And similar lines for the other 2 partitions... > > You know what would be a whole lot easier than that? > Use "group" instead of "user", then just make sure jtwdyp is in the > "disk" group, and other users you don't want to be able to mount/unmount > aren't. > That would save having to modify udev rules. Thanks for the idea Tez, it sounds like it would work. But I think I'd rather put the chown command in a script with a symlink in /etc/rcS.d. ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9ydmRZ/61mwhY94RAh//AJwLBjy5j6h11anKddQ8sh8oLYhzvgCggYWo DNEjbyTI9mIfd4rvABh5ABA= =uCFZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <> From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Tue Mar 13 22:45:11 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:45:11 -0400 Subject: kubuntu's start up graphic is "nice" but I like the scrolling text! Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I just installed Edgy on a nice new Gateway laptop (MT6451 Notebook PC) It has an AMD Turion 64x2 processor and a 120 gig HD Unlike most windows users I don't get uncomfortable when a bunch of text scrolls past my screen at boot time. In fact I get uncomfortable when it doesn't. I "LIKE" seeing a lot of lines ending in "[OK]" or "[PASS]" I'll admit it's mostly pointless because when I do see a red "[FAIL]" it usually scrolls past so fast I can't see what didn't work. But at least it lets me know that I want to look at dmesg. But mostly I just always get uncomfortable when an OS tries to hide it from me. Especially after I already ditched the gui login screen with: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove (I use startx when/if I'm ready for a gui) I probably had to do something to breezy to get this to be displayed on tty1 when I first installed it on my p3 desktop. But I can't remember what. I do know it didn't change back when I used dist-upgrade to switch the p3 to dapper. Would someone remind me how to ditch the pretty graphic startup? ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9ylFRZ/61mwhY94RAv5qAKCQNdSSzyQd2Std+3tdtl8TSP26+ACcDvIb /CguvRCUiZFCjBInfzHmO9g= =aV93 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | ~^~ ~^~ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Tue Mar 13 22:41:40 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:41:40 -0400 Subject: where did my /etc/inittab go??? Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I just installed Edgy on a nice new Gateway laptop (MT6451 Notebook PC) It has an AMD Turion 64x2 processor and a 120 gig HD The first thing I did was to refer to an old list message I saved on how to avoid the gui login via: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove (I'm a startx user, I ALWAYS boot to runlevel 3 Most of the time the first bash command is startx, But not always) The next thing I wanted to do was to edit /etc/inittab to say id:3:initdefault: But I can't find it. where has it gone???? ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9yh7RZ/61mwhY94RAgyAAJ9JVyZ3KYPwAWRmKpUoj38F/lGuIQCgi6PW SMAGfVCauD9Iyj9pCCSQNuM= =Jk4G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | ~^~ ~^~ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Mar 13 22:54:31 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:54:31 +0000 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: References: <873b4asjhn.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <45F72BA7.1020403@blueyonder.co.uk> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > It would appear that on Mar 13, Daniel Pittman did say: > > >> "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" writes: >> >> >>> chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 >>> Is this way I'm supposed to give these partitions to user jtwdyp ??? >>> >> Not in a world with udev, no. >> >> > > Oh... "udev" Shoulda guessed that it would have something to do with it. > > >>> /etc/fstab contains: >>> /dev/hda10 ext2 /home/jtwdyp/hda10 ext2 defaults,owner,noauto 0 2 >>> > <> > >> Are you sure it wouldn't be better to permit jtwdyp to mount and unmount >> them as root, using sudo, without a password? (or even with one?) >> >> > I wouldn't give sudo to a user account I routinely use, any more than > I'd routinely run as root. I'm not in complete agreement with the > idea that sudo is better than su -c... But the one thing I did agree with > was that if the hacker has to guess the user name as well as the password > it's harder than cracking an enabled root password because they already > know the username... But if the account is routinely used it's likely > that I'll forget to check for shoulder surfers sometime when I'm logging > in. Thus making it less secure than the root account would have been. > Thus: > I won't give sudo privileges to any username I use for routine activity. > first I gotta su to a suduer account, THEN I can sudo... And doing that > every time I want to mount or unmount one of these partitions would be > too much like work! > > <> You don't have to give the user full access, with sudo you can limit the commands a user can run as root, eg you can have something like this in /etc/sudoers: jtwdyp ALL = mount /dev/hda10 this would allow jtwdyp to mount /dev/hda10 (but only hda10) by using his password, that would allow you to have more security but let the use mount the partition. man sudoers (in a console) man:/sudoers (in konqueror) for more Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Mar 13 22:56:26 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:56:26 +0000 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: References: <45F59BA9.9060000@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <45F72C1A.6040503@blueyonder.co.uk> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > It would appear that on Mar 12, Tez did say: > > >> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: >> >>> chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 >>> Is this way I'm supposed to give these partitions to user jtwdyp ??? >>> /etc/fstab contains: >>> /dev/hda10 ext2 /home/jtwdyp/hda10 ext2 defaults,owner,noauto 0 2 >>> And similar lines for the other 2 partitions... >>> > > >> You know what would be a whole lot easier than that? >> Use "group" instead of "user", then just make sure jtwdyp is in the >> "disk" group, and other users you don't want to be able to mount/unmount >> aren't. >> That would save having to modify udev rules. >> > > Thanks for the idea Tez, it sounds like it would work. But I think I'd > rather put the chown command in a script with a symlink in /etc/rcS.d. > > > A little "hackish", but it works :-) Tez From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 23:01:59 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:01:59 +0200 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703131832.57676.chief@ptfd.org> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703131606.43322.lists@ptfd.org> <880dece00703131348w7f42f155p2d96c95199d240e1@mail.gmail.com> <200703131832.57676.chief@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <880dece00703131601ydc3a017le75a36d961b256@mail.gmail.com> On 14/03/07, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > > UInfortunately it is an industry specific system, Firehouse for Fire > department reporting to the NFIRS database, and an MSSQL database for > building inspections. > > Would sure LOVE a native Linux solution!! but it is a pretty limited market... > Mike > Did you write to the developer of the software and tell him that you want a linux version? If you don't let them know that there is a market, then they won't write the software. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/168/dr_dre.html From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Mar 13 23:05:45 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:05:45 +0000 Subject: kubuntu's start up graphic is "nice" but I like the scrolling text! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F72E49.9090105@blueyonder.co.uk> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > I just installed Edgy on a nice new Gateway laptop (MT6451 Notebook PC) > It has an AMD Turion 64x2 processor and a 120 gig HD > > Unlike most windows users I don't get uncomfortable when a bunch of text > scrolls past my screen at boot time. In fact I get uncomfortable when it > doesn't. I "LIKE" seeing a lot of lines ending in "[OK]" or "[PASS]" > I'll admit it's mostly pointless because when I do see a red "[FAIL]" it > usually scrolls past so fast I can't see what didn't work. But at least > it lets me know that I want to look at dmesg. But mostly I just always > get uncomfortable when an OS tries to hide it from me. Especially after I > already ditched the gui login screen with: > > sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove > > (I use startx when/if I'm ready for a gui) > > I probably had to do something to breezy to get this to be displayed > on tty1 when I first installed it on my p3 desktop. But I can't remember > what. I do know it didn't change back when I used dist-upgrade to switch > the p3 to dapper. > > Would someone remind me how to ditch the pretty graphic startup? > > I'm the same way, I _like_ to see what the system is doing (and if something fails). So I always disable the (XPish) boot splash (called usplash). It's nice and easy to do and doesn't require installing/removing any packages. Simply edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change: # kopt=root=/dev/hda ro quiet splash or whatever it is, to # kopt=root=/dev/hda ro quiet and remove the "splash" from the kernel options in the kernel list, or run "sudo update-grub" to do it or you. That will disable usplash and let you see the boot process (you may have to remove "quiet" too) Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Mar 13 23:11:10 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:11:10 +0000 Subject: where did my /etc/inittab go??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F72F8E.8050109@blueyonder.co.uk> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I just installed Edgy on a nice new Gateway laptop (MT6451 Notebook PC) > It has an AMD Turion 64x2 processor and a 120 gig HD > > The first thing I did was to refer to an old list message I saved on how > to avoid the gui login via: > sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove > > (I'm a startx user, I ALWAYS boot to runlevel 3 Most of the time the > first bash command is startx, But not always) > > The next thing I wanted to do was to edit /etc/inittab to say > > id:3:initdefault: > > But I can't find it. where has it gone???? > > Edgy uses upstart which, by default, doesn't install an /etc/inittab (tho it will read it if you make one). But on to your question... You want the default run level to be runlevel 3, and you probably don't want to have to create a new inittab, ok. All you need to do is edit /etc/event.d/rc-default to do it, change both the "telinit 2" parts to "telinit 3" and that should boot you right in to runlevel 3. Though I haven't actually tested that, I don't see what it wouldn't work. Tez From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 23:13:51 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:13:51 +0200 Subject: Go vote for Ubuntu at the REAL Dell site Message-ID: <880dece00703131613m3797080eg27daed217e2bf0ff@mail.gmail.com> Make yourself heard: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Tue Mar 13 23:23:57 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:23:57 -0700 Subject: Maemo Message-ID: <200703131623.57876.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> has anybody installed the maemo scratchbox ? http://tinyurl.com/r3jmr I am at somewhat of a loss as to how to install it From mdy at canonical.com Tue Mar 13 23:53:48 2007 From: mdy at canonical.com (Malcolm Yates) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:53:48 +0000 Subject: No sound on Feisty on ThinkPad In-Reply-To: References: <200703081343.49508.mdy@canonical.com> Message-ID: <200703132353.48548.mdy@canonical.com> I'll reply to this one as it was the latest ..... On Friday 09 March 2007 15:15:39 Chris Miller wrote: > On 3/9/07, Brad De Vries wrote: > > Malc, I'm not sure if this will be helpful but a long time ago I had > > an IBM ThinkPad T20 with Breezy Badger installed. Every time I booted > > I had no sound until I pressed the volume up or volume down button on > > the keyboard. It was as though the system "thought" the volume was OK > > but it was really set to "0". Once I hit the volume up or down > > button, it reset to a level I could hear. Because it happened every > > time I booted up, I made it part of the routine, about halfway between > > entering the user/password and when the system was booted, I hit the > > up or down button. > > I second that suggestion. I use an X40, and the sound control for the > volume buttons are hardware-based, so you have to check both the > buttons and the KMix icon (for the software and hardware end of the > problem.) > hmm. Thanks for all the suggestions. Just to make sure we all know that I have done the basics (!) .... when I mentioned the might of Canonical support, I mean just that - and we went through all of the obvious stupid things. The support was hands on as well, btw I also have the problem with Ubuntu ( I actually run KDE on Ubuntu to make things more interesting ). Very odd. The volume 'panel' comes up when I increase / decrease the volume. All the mixer sliders are set sensibly .... I have also tried through a wind*ws xp system that I can dual boot, and that is fine. I can see a fresh install coming with Feisty GA code. Oh well. Malc > -- > It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 -- ***** Please note the new mobile and home office numbers ***** Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com ------------------- Grusse/Cordialement/Saluti/Saludos/Med Venlig/Helsning/Saygilarimla Mobile : +44 (0) 7769 703709 Home Office : +44 (0) 1483 481712 Office : +44 (0) 20 7052 9842 ext 22 Fax : +44 (0) 20 7052 9849 Mail : Axiscross House, 25/27 Mossop Street, London SW3 2LY UK ------------------- From antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 09:21:40 2007 From: antonioricardo.correia at gmail.com (arcorreia) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:21:40 +0000 Subject: Kdetv crashing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703140921.40968.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Hello Sven, 1 - From the console confirm that bttv module is loaded by listing loaded modules and finding lines containing bttv. console> lsmod bttv 173424 1 bt878 video_buf 22724 1 bttv i2c_algo_bit 9800 1 bttv i2c_viapro 9108 0 v4l2_common 6080 1 bttv btcx_risc 5288 1 bttv tveeprom 15312 1 bttv i2c_core 22848 9 i2c_acpi_ec,tuner,tda9887,tvaudio,tda9875,bttv,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_viapro,tveeprom videodev 10144 1 bttv 2 - Even if linux installs bttv it doesn't know the type of the card. Configure bttv module for your TV card. In my case I have a Hercules Smartv 2 and I added (as root) the following lines (the first one is just a comment) to the file /etc/modprobe.d/options # Hercules Smartv 2 TV Card options bttv tuner=38 card=100 gbuffers=4 If you can't remember the parameters for your tv card google around you'll probably find it in one of the wikis or linux forums. 3 - Reboot your computer. 4 - Remove the dir with the ancient kdetv setups. console> rm -r .kde/share/apps/kdetv 5 - Start kdetv and answer the questions of the config script. It should detect all your channels and you should be able to use kdetv. Final note: If it still crashes there is probably a compatibality problem with kde 3.5.5, the version of kdetv in the repos was developed for kde 3.2. In here it detects all the channels but whenever I use an item in the menus it freezes the computer and I have to do a hardware reboot. Let me know what happened, perhaps we need to fill out a bug report. Best regards, Antonio >i want to watch tv on my computer. >I have an old Videocard with a BT878 chip on it. >TV always worked for me until i got a new computer. >(The card is the same) >If i try to start kdetv it tells me: >Unable to grab video. >Video display is not possible with the current plugin configuration. Try >playing with the configuration options of the V4L2 plugin. >Console output gives me: >kdetv: WARNING: KXvDevice::rebuildImage: XvCreateImage failed. >ASSERT: "xv_image != 0" in /build/buildd/kdetv-0.8.9/./kdetv/kvideoio/kxv.cpp >(683) >X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 > Major opcode: 141 > Minor opcode: 17 > Resource id: 0x0 >Under Windows the card still works. >I use feisty Herd5 and have an ATI graphiccard with two monitors >plugged in. >I installed the actual binary driver from ati website. >kdetv works neither under root nor under normal user login. >Playing around with the v4l settings didnt help too. >No other TV application works. >Somebody having an idea what may be the problem? >Greetings >Sven Richter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tuesday 13 March 2007 07:13:51 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > Make yourself heard: > http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp > > Dotan Cohen > > http://lyricslist.com/ > http://what-is-what.com/ From lokeey at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 11:19:01 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:19:01 -0500 Subject: Go vote for Ubuntu at the REAL Dell site In-Reply-To: <200703140550.23159.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <880dece00703131613m3797080eg27daed217e2bf0ff@mail.gmail.com> <200703140550.23159.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: got a link? On 3/14/07, Larry Hartman wrote: > > OO.org just publicly called Dell to a partnership. > > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 07:13:51 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Make yourself heard: > > http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://lyricslist.com/ > > http://what-is-what.com/ > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peterulrich at gmx.net Wed Mar 14 11:55:12 2007 From: peterulrich at gmx.net (Peter Ulrich) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:55:12 +0100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> Message-ID: <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jim MacLeod wrote: > Binary package hint: libgphoto2-2 > The file /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules says in line 3: > BUS!="usb*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" > [...] > SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" > instead would work. > Didn't help. It's really mysterious. Instead of connecting the camera directly via USB I tried to read the card via my card reader - result (error message): Failed to list files in/sdd1. The mystery for me is that Digikam always worked correctly with this camera and this computer - also under a former SUSE installation and under the former Ubuntu/Kubuntu installation. There are no faults in camera or computer: all components are working correctly under Windows XP (used for playing MS TrainSimulator). Peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF9+Kf5Bmt2gLCWbsRAkbmAKDzjfkDirlHifXGLkTSIabr3t2GjgCfYxyc tbbCb+1JMyAXN/WfUDhOmn4= =A23b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From neil.linux at iinet.net.au Wed Mar 14 12:15:05 2007 From: neil.linux at iinet.net.au (neil.linux) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:15:05 +1100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> Message-ID: <45F7E749.7000703@iinet.net.au> Peter Ulrich wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jim MacLeod wrote: > >> Binary package hint: libgphoto2-2 >> The file /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules says in line 3: >> BUS!="usb*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" >> [...] >> SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" >> instead would work. >> >> > > Didn't help. It's really mysterious. Instead of connecting the camera > directly via USB I tried to read the card via my card reader - result > (error message): Failed to list files in/sdd1. > > The mystery for me is that Digikam always worked correctly with this > camera and this computer - also under a former SUSE installation and > under the former Ubuntu/Kubuntu installation. There are no faults in > camera or computer: all components are working correctly under Windows > XP (used for playing MS TrainSimulator). > > Peter > Is there any chance that the card has been corrupted somehow? Your camera acts as a card reader when plugged in to the USB port--if you are getting the same error (unable to list files) when using the camera and the card reader then there is a good chance that the problem lies with the card. If you have another card take some images using it and try accessing that one via the USB port. hth Neil B Melbourne, Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sveri-list at gmx.de Wed Mar 14 12:27:34 2007 From: sveri-list at gmx.de (Sven Richter) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:27:34 +0100 Subject: Kdetv crashing In-Reply-To: <200703140921.40968.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> References: <200703140921.40968.antonioricardo.correia@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703141327.34156.sveri-list@gmx.de> Hello Antonio, On Wednesday 14 March 2007 10:21:40 arcorreia wrote: > Hello Sven, > > 1 - From the console confirm that bttv module is loaded by listing loaded > modules and finding lines containing bttv. > > console> lsmod > > bttv 173424 1 bt878 > video_buf 22724 1 bttv > i2c_algo_bit 9800 1 bttv > i2c_viapro 9108 0 > v4l2_common 6080 1 bttv > btcx_risc 5288 1 bttv > tveeprom 15312 1 bttv > i2c_core 22848 9 > i2c_acpi_ec,tuner,tda9887,tvaudio,tda9875,bttv,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_viapro,tvee >prom videodev 10144 1 bttv > Everything is loaded so far and correct i think > 2 - Even if linux installs bttv it doesn't know the type of the card. > Configure bttv module for your TV card. > That would be really weired, i use this card scince 5 years and every distribution i used so far could handle that card without problems. > In my case I have a Hercules Smartv 2 and I added (as root) the following > lines (the first one is just a comment) to the file /etc/modprobe.d/options > > # Hercules Smartv 2 TV Card > options bttv tuner=38 card=100 gbuffers=4 > I played around with module options a bit but i still get the same error, I still dont think its an kdetv specific problem. > If you can't remember the parameters for your tv card google around you'll > probably find it in one of the wikis or linux forums. > > 3 - Reboot your computer. > > 4 - Remove the dir with the ancient kdetv setups. > > console> rm -r .kde/share/apps/kdetv > > 5 - Start kdetv and answer the questions of the config script. It should > detect all your channels and you should be able to use kdetv. > Like written above, it still doesnt work. I filed a bug report on launchpad with the error report from xawtv, see here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xawtv/+bug/92212 Greetings Sven Richter > > >i want to watch tv on my computer. > >I have an old Videocard with a BT878 chip on it. > > > >TV always worked for me until i got a new computer. > >(The card is the same) > > > >If i try to start kdetv it tells me: > > > >Unable to grab video. > > > >Video display is not possible with the current plugin configuration. Try > >playing with the configuration options of the V4L2 plugin. > > > > > >Console output gives me: > >kdetv: WARNING: KXvDevice::rebuildImage: XvCreateImage failed. > >ASSERT: "xv_image != 0" in > > /build/buildd/kdetv-0.8.9/./kdetv/kvideoio/kxv.cpp (683) > >X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 > > Major opcode: 141 > > Minor opcode: 17 > > Resource id: 0x0 > > > >Under Windows the card still works. > > > >I use feisty Herd5 and have an ATI graphiccard with two monitors > >plugged in. > >I installed the actual binary driver from ati website. > > > >kdetv works neither under root nor under normal user login. > > > >Playing around with the v4l settings didnt help too. > > > >No other TV application works. > > > > > >Somebody having an idea what may be the problem? > > > > > >Greetings > >Sven Richter From slewin at rogers.com Wed Mar 14 12:34:48 2007 From: slewin at rogers.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:34:48 -0400 Subject: Go vote for Ubuntu at the REAL Dell site In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00703131613m3797080eg27daed217e2bf0ff@mail.gmail.com> <200703140550.23159.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <45F7EBE8.8000404@rogers.com> Lokeey wrote: > got a link? He most likely meant this. http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=17473 > On 3/14/07, *Larry Hartman* > wrote: > > OO.org just publicly called Dell to a partnership. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) From ansari.farid at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:12:31 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:12:31 +0500 Subject: Webcam Message-ID: <27b81ea70703140812i613b3be5h3bc7b38c0e5d24e1@mail.gmail.com> I have a Creative Webcam, model PD 1001, which is recognised by Kubuntu but I cannot use this. Probably needs compiling which I do not know. Please someone help by letting me kow how to use the webcam. Thanks, Farid Ansari Karachi, Pakistan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:25:59 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:25:59 -0600 Subject: package that contains kernel source? Message-ID: <256f4e900703140825mc83ff03n7d558caeb12e2ebb@mail.gmail.com> I'm probably going blind, but I can't see which package contains the kernel source for my system. uname -a: Linux homebrew 2.6.15-28-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:53:41 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux Where do I get the source for this kernel build? From ejviolet at yahoo.com Wed Mar 14 15:37:55 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: How do I change screen resolution? In-Reply-To: <1173755812.7757.5.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <590203.98562.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jerome B Newell wrote: > > Section "Screen" > > Identifier "Default Screen" > > Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB]" > > Monitor "GATEWAY VX90" > > DefaultDepth 24 > > SubSection "Display" > > Depth 1 > > Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" > > "720x450" "720x400" "640x480" > > EndSubSection > > Hi Earl, > I have had similar problems in the past and I found that dropping > the > DefaultDepth from 24 down to 16 cured the problem. I also am using > ATI > 3D Rage graphics card. Also for anybody using Vesa mode, apparantly > Vesa > can not handle 24 depth graphics and needs to be set for 16 or even > 15. > > Regards > Jerome B OK!!!! That worked great!!! Thanks much Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it Wed Mar 14 16:19:26 2007 From: piero.ottuzzi at omnys.it (Piero Ottuzzi) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:19:26 +0100 Subject: package that contains kernel source? In-Reply-To: <256f4e900703140825mc83ff03n7d558caeb12e2ebb@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900703140825mc83ff03n7d558caeb12e2ebb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703141719.30046.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Hi there, isn'it linux-source? > apt-cache show linux-source [...] Description: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches This package will always depend on the latest Linux kernel source code available. The Ubuntu patches have been applied. [...] Hope this helps you out :) Bye Piero Alle 16:25, mercoledì 14 marzo 2007, D. R. Evans ha scritto: > I'm probably going blind, but I can't see which package contains the > kernel source for my system. > > uname -a: > Linux homebrew 2.6.15-28-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 > 15:53:41 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Where do I get the source for this kernel build? -- You have been selected for a secret mission. --------------------------------------- GPG KeyID: 84AE988E Fingerprint: F0A0 CA2A 8D8F CC12 3F5E C04C D8D5 9DC3 84AE 988E gpg --keyserver x-hkp://search.keyserver.net:11371 --recv-key 84AE988E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am > currently using the 6.10 which is great but anxiously await the new 7.04. > Regards, Hi, use Akregator and subscribe to: http://www.kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss hth /d From oli at aurait.eu Wed Mar 14 16:36:41 2007 From: oli at aurait.eu (Olivier Picquenot) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:36:41 +0100 Subject: New Version In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703140815l1741824cq8ed928cd573132@mail.gmail.com> References: <27b81ea70703140815l1741824cq8ed928cd573132@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F82499.8050107@aurait.eu> Farid Ansari a écrit : > Please let me know when the new Kubuntu is due to be released. I am > currently using the 6.10 which is great but anxiously await the new 7.04. > Regards, > > Farid > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/ "Feisty Fawn is going to be the next Ubuntu release, currently scheduled for release on 19 April 2007" BTW, 7.04 means 4th month of 2007. From wattazoum at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 16:42:45 2007 From: wattazoum at gmail.com (Ouattara Oumar Aziz) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:42:45 +0100 Subject: New Version In-Reply-To: <45F82499.8050107@aurait.eu> References: <27b81ea70703140815l1741824cq8ed928cd573132@mail.gmail.com> <45F82499.8050107@aurait.eu> Message-ID: > > BTW, 7.04 means 4th month of 2007. > Nice ! I didn't know it. Now I understand that naming system . :) From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 17:19:43 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:19:43 -0600 Subject: package that contains kernel source? In-Reply-To: <200703141719.30046.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> References: <256f4e900703140825mc83ff03n7d558caeb12e2ebb@mail.gmail.com> <200703141719.30046.piero.ottuzzi@omnys.it> Message-ID: <256f4e900703141019v37239b63ief14a32b2fdd7570@mail.gmail.com> Duh. I was looking for the terms "kernel" and "src" Thank you. Aren't things easy when you know the right words to use? :-) From snap.dragon at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Mar 14 17:35:42 2007 From: snap.dragon at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:35:42 +0000 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> Message-ID: Peter Ulrich wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jim MacLeod wrote: >> Binary package hint: libgphoto2-2 >> The file /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libgphoto2.rules says in line 3: >> BUS!="usb*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" >> [...] >> SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" >> instead would work. >> > > Didn't help. It's really mysterious. Instead of connecting the camera > directly via USB I tried to read the card via my card reader - result > (error message): Failed to list files in/sdd1. > > The mystery for me is that Digikam always worked correctly with this > camera and this computer - also under a former SUSE installation and > under the former Ubuntu/Kubuntu installation. There are no faults in > camera or computer: all components are working correctly under Windows > XP (used for playing MS TrainSimulator). > > Peter Just tried it with my CX7430 and it worked but I only changed BUS to SUBSYSTEM ie. I left "usb*" as it was, so maybe this is would help. I think the problem was in the last upgrade on 11th March so you could revert back to the previous packages - (I use Kubuntu) - which worked for me before I found this other method Aptitude 0.4.1: log report Sun, Mar 11 2007 16:27:09 +0000 Will install 3 packages, and remove 1 packages. 410kB of disk space will be freed =============================================================================== [REMOVE, NOT USED] libusb-dev [DOWNGRADE] libgphoto2-2 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 -> 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 [DOWNGRADE] libgphoto2-2-dev 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 -> 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 [DOWNGRADE] libgphoto2-port0 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 -> 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 HTH Jim From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 19:01:27 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:01:27 -0600 Subject: Kopete not behaving In-Reply-To: <200703121739.37733.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703121739.37733.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45F84687.9020503@gmail.com> Kevin Kempter said the following at 03/12/2007 05:39 PM : > Hi List; > > I've just installed Kubuntu Drapper (6.06) and Kopete shows all AIM users as > offline plus it doesn't have my contacts once I create the account. > > Any thoughts > 1. Are you certain that the AIM gateway you're using is up and running? If it's down, Kopete will show all the AIM users as offline. 2. I'm not sure that I understand the second part of your post. In fact, I am sure that I don't. If Kopete doesn't know about your contacts, how do you know that the AIM users are showing as offline? From bbales at cox.net Wed Mar 14 20:51:14 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:51:14 -0600 Subject: hosts file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703141551.14771.bbales@cox.net> On Wednesday 14 March 2007 10:15, Lokeey wrote: > if i want to add known hosts that i connect to on a frequent basis, > i add known hosts to /etc/hosts, correct? or is there another file? > > also, it's been a while, so do i just add this below my localhost > info like so... > > 10.0.0.1 host host.name.com > > or > > 10.0.0.1 hostname Not sure what you are trying to do, but maybe you need to look at /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. bruce From lokeey at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 20:58:55 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:58:55 -0500 Subject: hosts file In-Reply-To: <200703141551.14771.bbales@cox.net> References: <200703141551.14771.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: no...it's not .allow or .deny...i know it was hosts. it's just been awhile so i don't remember if that's how i edit the file it's okay....i'll figure it out and when I do i'll post with an update and resolution in case someone tries to do the same. thanks anyway, bruce! On 3/14/07, Bruce Bales wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 10:15, Lokeey wrote: > > if i want to add known hosts that i connect to on a frequent basis, > > i add known hosts to /etc/hosts, correct? or is there another file? > > > > also, it's been a while, so do i just add this below my localhost > > info like so... > > > > 10.0.0.1 host host.name.com > > > > or > > > > 10.0.0.1 hostname > > Not sure what you are trying to do, but maybe you need to look > at /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. > bruce > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomasasta at gmx.net Wed Mar 14 21:28:36 2007 From: thomasasta at gmx.net (thomasasta at gmx.net) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:28:36 +0100 Subject: turtle p2p f2f protocol integrated in gaim, jabber, kopete In-Reply-To: <106cc1200703140346i1bbce594g582b7ee11ca70e10@mail.gmail.com> References: <106cc1200701151556q7ca19f1eye2bf4b0b35403c37@mail.gmail.com> <45AC625C.2030808@gmail.com> <45AC6F10.8020704@reaperworld.com> <106cc1200703140346i1bbce594g582b7ee11ca70e10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070314212836.182710@gmx.net> turtle p2p allows anonymous sharing in any Instant Messenger like Aimster or Gaimster http://www.turtle4privacy.org/new/en_index.html see how hop by hop works with ID´s for query and transfer. IP connections are done only to friends in the buddylist, no connection to friends of friends. http://www.turtle4privacy.org/documents/en_what_is_turtle_f2f.ppt anyone with c/c++/c# interested in implementing it in the messenger? Linuxusers can install direct. Maybe somone writes a standard document for jabber xmpp? -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From stew.schneider at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 21:28:40 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:28:40 -0400 Subject: hosts file In-Reply-To: References: <200703141551.14771.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: <45F86908.1000007@gmail.com> Lokeey wrote: > no...it's not .allow or .deny...i know it was hosts. it's just been > awhile so i don't remember if that's how i edit the file it's > okay....i'll figure it out and when I do i'll post with an update and > resolution in case someone tries to do the same. If I understand you correctly, you're asking the syntax? It's 10.0.0.1 hostname stew From kassube at gmx.net Wed Mar 14 21:32:05 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:32:05 +0100 Subject: hosts file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703142232.05722.kassube@gmx.net> On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:15, Lokeey wrote: > if i want to add known hosts that i connect to on a frequent basis, i > add known hosts to /etc/hosts, correct? or is there another file? > > also, it's been a while, so do i just add this below my localhost info > like so... > > 10.0.0.1 host host.name.com > > or > > 10.0.0.1 hostname From "man hosts": EXAMPLE 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.1.10 foo.mydomain.org foo 192.168.1.13 bar.mydomain.org bar 146.82.138.7 master.debian.org master 209.237.226.90 www.opensource.org Nils From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Wed Mar 14 21:36:01 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:36:01 -0500 Subject: hosts file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200703141736.01468.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Wednesday 14 March 2007 11:15 am, Lokeey wrote: > if i want to add known hosts that i connect to on a frequent basis, i add > known hosts to /etc/hosts, correct? or is there another file? That's what I do, and you have the syntax right. I've been meaning to come up with a more clever way of keeping every computer on the same page with this, because it's annoying having to juggle so many /etc/hosts files that have different entries at the top. I could set up a local DNS server or something, maybe. I don't know. It's one of those things I contemplate fixing while I'm in the middle of dealing with the bother, and then forget about for six months, until I need to bother again. -- D. Michael McIntyre From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Wed Mar 14 21:41:11 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:41:11 -0400 Subject: Go vote for Ubuntu at the REAL Dell site In-Reply-To: <45F7EBE8.8000404@rogers.com> References: <880dece00703131613m3797080eg27daed217e2bf0ff@mail.gmail.com> <45F7EBE8.8000404@rogers.com> Message-ID: <200703141741.12022.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Sorry, early morning syndrome robs oxygen from my brain, causing me to post incomplete messages and no links. This is not the site I read from, but it will do. From the news source I read, approx 25,000 people petitioned to DELL their desires to see OO.org isntalled. Perhaps 75,000 (linux) plus 25,000 (OO.org) does not constitute a large number of clientale compared to the volume of sales; however, I believe their marketing division will see each of those petitions as representative of a larger portion of the market, maybe one vote represents 1,000 or something of this nature. On Wednesday 14 March 2007 08:34:48 am Scott wrote: > Lokeey wrote: > > got a link? > > He most likely meant this. > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=17473 > > > On 3/14/07, *Larry Hartman* > > wrote: > > > > OO.org just publicly called Dell to a partnership. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a 100% Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.04 > (Feisty Fawn) From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Wed Mar 14 21:44:06 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:44:06 -0500 Subject: Kuickshow? In-Reply-To: <200703130937.06957.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200703121737.42475.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703130937.06957.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200703141744.06194.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 4:37 am, Nils Kassube wrote: > long time, but "no activity" doesn't mean it is useless. I know at least 3 > people (including me) who prefer kuickshow over the applications coming > with (k)ubuntu (e.g. gwenview). At least four. I never actually went to the bother of getting it running after I made the switch to Kubuntu, but I miss it. The one thing it has over everything else is that it's QUICK. Gwenview has more toys, and is better integrated with digiKam and friends, but it's substantially slower. -- D. Michael McIntyre From lokeey at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 22:32:06 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:32:06 -0500 Subject: hosts file In-Reply-To: <200703142232.05722.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200703142232.05722.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: OMG!!! I can't believe I missed this today!!! TOTAL NOOB move! thanks Nills! On 3/14/07, Nils Kassube wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 16:15, Lokeey wrote: > > if i want to add known hosts that i connect to on a frequent basis, i > > add known hosts to /etc/hosts, correct? or is there another file? > > > > also, it's been a while, so do i just add this below my localhost info > > like so... > > > > 10.0.0.1 host host.name.com > > > > or > > > > 10.0.0.1 hostname > > From "man hosts": > > EXAMPLE > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 192.168.1.10 foo.mydomain.org foo > 192.168.1.13 bar.mydomain.org bar > 146.82.138.7 master.debian.org master > 209.237.226.90 www.opensource.org > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 22:37:49 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:37:49 -0500 Subject: package that contains kernel source? In-Reply-To: <256f4e900703140825mc83ff03n7d558caeb12e2ebb@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900703140825mc83ff03n7d558caeb12e2ebb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703141737.49573.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Wednesday 14 March 2007 10:25:59 am D. R. Evans wrote: > I'm probably going blind, but I can't see which package contains the > kernel source for my system. > > uname -a: > Linux homebrew 2.6.15-28-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 > 15:53:41 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Where do I get the source for this kernel build? If you want the actuall kernel source look for a package called linux-source. The Kernel you have probably came in a package something like: linux-image_2.6.15-28-amd64-generic.deb So you want to look for a package that is similarly versioned such as: linux-source_2.6.15.deb Anyway these are not exact names but if you're looking in synaptic, or adept it should give you enough to search with. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Wed Mar 14 23:49:22 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:49:22 -0500 Subject: chown jtwdyp: /dev/hda8 /dev/hda9 /dev/hda10 [fstab: owner, noauto] In-Reply-To: References: <200703120911.48895.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703141949.22279.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Tuesday 13 March 2007 6:39 pm, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > Thanks for reminding me that I could roll my own init commands even if > debian systems don't use an rc.local script. That's the spirit man. If you can't do it right, do it with MIGHT. -- D. Michael McIntyre From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 15 02:32:08 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:32:08 -0400 Subject: Superkaramba Message-ID: <200703142232.08263.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Okay I am pulling my hair out over an annoyance that is not a real big deal,, but because it is not right I am frustrated about it. Several weeks ago during some administrative tasks I was accomplishing somehow I messed up the themes in Superkaramba. To fix it I have deleted the /home/usrname/.superkaramba and the /home/usrname/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba directories. This successfully deleted the themes; however, the Superkaramba theme manager still shows themes as "installed." This, even after I removed the Superkaramba package and reloaded it. Based on all of this I am presuming that there exists another sort of config file somewhere. Anyone have any ideas? Larry From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 04:56:19 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:56:19 +0800 Subject: Superkaramba In-Reply-To: <200703142232.08263.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703142232.08263.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703151256.19969.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Thursday 15 March 2007, Larry Hartman wrote: > Okay I am pulling my hair out over an annoyance that is not a real big > deal,, but because it is not right I am frustrated about it. > > Several weeks ago during some administrative tasks I was accomplishing > somehow I messed up the themes in Superkaramba. To fix it I have deleted > the /home/usrname/.superkaramba and > the /home/usrname/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba directories. This > successfully deleted the themes; however, the Superkaramba theme manager > still shows themes as "installed." This, even after I removed the > Superkaramba package and reloaded it. Based on all of this I am presuming > that there exists another sort of config file somewhere. Anyone have any > ideas? > > Larry Try looking into ~/.kde/share/config probably for a superkarambarc file From lokeey at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 12:32:07 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:32:07 -0500 Subject: installing vmware-tools in Ubuntu-6.06? In-Reply-To: <87k5zlvu1j.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <20070116195745.GP8840@localhost> <45AE4FC0.2040505@mail.ee> <45AEEC59.4000404@mike-leone.com> <87k5zlvu1j.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: hey guys, i was looking to do this vmware install now that i have my system how i want it. so my question is how do you get vmware for free if they are all evaluation downloads? is there somewhere specifically you have to download from to get a FREE COPY or is this just it and the eval last as long as you want until you decide to purchase??? On 1/17/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: > > Mike Leone writes: > > Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > G'day Mike. > > >>> I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS installed as a VMware guest on my VMware > >>> server. And I'm trying to install the VMware tools. They give you an > >>> RPM or a gzipped source. So I unzipped the source, and ran the perl > >>> script. > > [...] > > > I don't want to install all of vmware (the vmware host is Windows > > 2000); just the vmware-tools into the ubuntu guest. > > This will probably help then: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools > > The Ubuntu Community documentation is generally a good place to look for > information on installing third party software of any kind. > > > Also, while small comfort right now you can look forward to a more > pleasant experience with Ubuntu 7.04 -- the kernel team will be > supplying the VMWare tools and kernel modules as part of the > distribution, at least by their plan. > > Regards, > Daniel > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <20070116195745.GP8840@localhost> <87k5zlvu1j.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703151353.13304.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> Dnia czwartek, 15 marca 2007 13:32, Lokeey napisał: > hey guys, i was looking to do this vmware install now that i have my system > how i want it. so my question is how do you get vmware for free if they are > all evaluation downloads? is there somewhere specifically you have to > download from to get a FREE COPY or is this just it and the eval last as > long as you want until you decide to purchase??? vmware server is free and works perfeclty with ubuntu - as host os and also as guest os. -- bluszcz From juergen.sauer at automatix.de Thu Mar 15 13:01:23 2007 From: juergen.sauer at automatix.de (Juergen Sauer) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:01:23 +0100 Subject: Edgy vs Dapper Drake? In-Reply-To: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200703151401.32868.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Am Samstag, 10. März 2007 schrieb Kevin Kempter: > Hi List; > > what's the real diff's between Edgy (6.10) and Dapper Drake (6.06) > > ? The worst thing first: Edgy does not support older Linux Threads and the older ldd behavior for getting older binaries run. export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 does not work as workaround for successfull running older bins. This makes trouble on older Oracle and SAP-DB Database and older binary only availble software. So Edgy is not usable in productive environments. Refer also: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/69879 Please read those arrogant answer. Jojo -- Jürgen Sauer - AutomatiX GmbH, +49-4209-4699, juergen.sauer at automatix.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 3/15/07, Rafał Zawadzki wrote: > > Dnia czwartek, 15 marca 2007 13:32, Lokeey napisał: > > hey guys, i was looking to do this vmware install now that i have my > system > > how i want it. so my question is how do you get vmware for free if they > are > > all evaluation downloads? is there somewhere specifically you have to > > download from to get a FREE COPY or is this just it and the eval last as > > long as you want until you decide to purchase??? > > vmware server is free and works perfeclty with ubuntu - as host os and > also as > guest os. > > -- > bluszcz > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Mar 15 17:20:08 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:20:08 -0400 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Sunday 11 March 2007 17:44, Kevin Kempter wrote: > Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Codeweavers? > > Any known issues? Codeweavers (CrossOver) seems fine in itself. Issues arise when you try to run "unsupported apps". Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Sometimes tweaking gets them to work, othertimes, it doesn't. Try the evaluation copy with the apps you want to run. CrossOver creates independent windows "bottles" and recommends a separate bottle for each app. That will not work if your apps are interdependent. In that case, you have to put them in the same bottle, and you have to install them in a sequence where the dependencies are met. For example, many windows apps need IE6 to connect to the internet. In that case you have to install IE in that bottle before you install the app. After you have installed IE, CrossOver will suggest that you install your app in a different bottle. That is bad advice, because you created the bottle and added the dependencies so that you could install the desired app in the same bottle. Also, it is important to use the control panel to configure the version of windows that your app expects. CrossOver seems to default to Win98, while the apps that I tried required Win2k. As for vmware, I need help. I downloaded and tried to install vmware but the install failed. I uninstalled what I could, and found a wiki that explains ubuntu installs. I followed the wiki, but that install failed because it detected the remnants of the prior aborted install. If anyone thinks they can help, I will post the appropriate steps and errors I encountered. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 15 17:38:57 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:38:57 +0000 Subject: installing vmware-tools in Ubuntu-6.06? In-Reply-To: References: <20070116195745.GP8840@localhost> <87k5zlvu1j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703151353.13304.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> Message-ID: <45F984B1.8020806@blueyonder.co.uk> Lokeey wrote: > okay...that didn't answer my question at all. i already know it's free > and i already know it works well with ubuntu. > > let me ask this....IS the evaluation the FREE version? are those both > the same? > The only completely free version (without evaluation) is the VMWare Player (available in the Multiverse repository), but it lacks the ability to create virtual machines. You can get around this with http://www.easyvmx.com/ it makes them for you. If you want the workstation or server versions, then you go and grab the evaluation version and use the key they send. It's normally good for 30 days, after the 30 days, you can the just grab another key from the site and just keep doing that. You can request as many evaluation keys as you want. So the "free" version and the "evaluation" version are the same, except for the player. Tez From lokeey at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 17:47:17 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:47:17 -0500 Subject: installing vmware-tools in Ubuntu-6.06? In-Reply-To: <45F984B1.8020806@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <20070116195745.GP8840@localhost> <87k5zlvu1j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703151353.13304.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> <45F984B1.8020806@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: thnx tez...that's what i needed to know! On 3/15/07, Tez wrote: > > Lokeey wrote: > > okay...that didn't answer my question at all. i already know it's free > > and i already know it works well with ubuntu. > > > > let me ask this....IS the evaluation the FREE version? are those both > > the same? > > > The only completely free version (without evaluation) is the VMWare > Player (available in the Multiverse repository), but it lacks the > ability to create virtual machines. You can get around this with > http://www.easyvmx.com/ it makes them for you. > If you want the workstation or server versions, then you go and grab the > evaluation version and use the key they send. It's normally good for 30 > days, after the 30 days, you can the just grab another key from the site > and just keep doing that. You can request as many evaluation keys as you > want. So the "free" version and the "evaluation" version are the same, > except for the player. > > Tez > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 17:55:39 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:55:39 +0200 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00703151055l1498e1afybea9292845a70405@mail.gmail.com> On 15/03/07, Art Alexion wrote: > On Sunday 11 March 2007 17:44, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Anyone running vmware with Kubuntu? Codeweavers? > > > > Any known issues? > > Codeweavers (CrossOver) seems fine in itself. Issues arise when you try to > run "unsupported apps". Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. > Sometimes tweaking gets them to work, othertimes, it doesn't. > > Try the evaluation copy with the apps you want to run. > > CrossOver creates independent windows "bottles" and recommends a separate > bottle for each app. That will not work if your apps are interdependent. In > that case, you have to put them in the same bottle, and you have to install > them in a sequence where the dependencies are met. For example, many windows > apps need IE6 to connect to the internet. In that case you have to install > IE in that bottle before you install the app. After you have installed IE, > CrossOver will suggest that you install your app in a different bottle. That > is bad advice, because you created the bottle and added the dependencies so > that you could install the desired app in the same bottle. > > Also, it is important to use the control panel to configure the version of > windows that your app expects. CrossOver seems to default to Win98, while > the apps that I tried required Win2k. > > As for vmware, I need help. I downloaded and tried to install vmware but the > install failed. I uninstalled what I could, and found a wiki that explains > ubuntu installs. I followed the wiki, but that install failed because it > detected the remnants of the prior aborted install. If anyone thinks they > can help, I will post the appropriate steps and errors I encountered. Did you read this?: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server Googling "ubuntu install vmware" led me to more info than you'' ever need. Follow that howto, then when you encounter your first error start a new thread on the mailing list that describe in detail your system, the steps that you took, and the error that you recieved. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/network.html http://computter.net From rbmorse at comcast.net Thu Mar 15 18:56:21 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:56:21 -0600 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200703151256.21692.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Thursday 15 March 2007 11:20:08 Art Alexion wrote: > As for vmware, I need help. I downloaded and tried to install vmware but > the install failed. I uninstalled what I could, and found a wiki that > explains ubuntu installs. I followed the wiki, but that install failed > because it detected the remnants of the prior aborted install. If anyone > thinks they can help, I will post the appropriate steps and errors I > encountered. Make sure you delete ~/user/.vmware and ~/user/vmware (note that one is a hidden file and starts with a "." It is probably too late for this one, but in the future, the vmware tarball comes with an uninstaller script, I think it is uninstallvmware.pl, but in any case it will be obvious and it works very well, removing the traces of the package that lead to the condition you describe on the next install. Ron Morse From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 19:04:28 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:04:28 +0100 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <880dece00703151055l1498e1afybea9292845a70405@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> <880dece00703151055l1498e1afybea9292845a70405@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703151204i7d7b0a8cl53f1f9ba73438d6d@mail.gmail.com> Hi! A fairly easy way to remove all VMWARE leftovers: (did that myself, cuz I messed up an installation... ) Open a shell an type sudo updatedb this will update the file database used by locate to find files the run locate vmware and remove all findings except maybe installation files and such. Then you ought to be able to install vmware. For me, vmware server & mui work very well under feisty! Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At the end of > the download it asked me to close the window at which time the new upgrade > software would exit Adept and load its own interface. So when I closed the > window.....precisely nothing happened, Adept remained open and no other > software loaded. When I closed Adept manually, nothing more happened. That's a known problem which is now fixed. Please try again and report your results on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/84717 Jonathan From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 19:07:30 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:07:30 +0100 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703151256.21692.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200703151256.21692.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703151207k3861aeccr90e10856b8e68d2@mail.gmail.com> On 3/15/07, Ron Morse wrote: > > On Thursday 15 March 2007 11:20:08 Art Alexion wrote: > > > As for vmware, I need help. I downloaded and tried to install vmware > but > > the install failed. I uninstalled what I could, and found a wiki that > > explains ubuntu installs. I followed the wiki, but that install failed > > because it detected the remnants of the prior aborted install. If > anyone > > thinks they can help, I will post the appropriate steps and errors I > > encountered. > > Make sure you delete ~/user/.vmware and ~/user/vmware (note that one is a > hidden file and starts with a "." > > It is probably too late for this one, but in the future, the vmware > tarball > comes with an uninstaller script, I think it is uninstallvmware.pl, but in > any case it will be obvious and it works very well, removing the traces of > the package that lead to the condition you describe on the next install. > > Ron Morse > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! The script is called vmware-uninstall.pl and for the mui: vmware-uninstall-mui.pl Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can get around this with > http://www.easyvmx.com/ it makes them for you. > If you want the workstation or server versions, then you go and grab the > evaluation version and use the key they send. It's normally good for 30 > days, after the 30 days, you can the just grab another key from the site > and just keep doing that. You can request as many evaluation keys as you > want. So the "free" version and the "evaluation" version are the same, > except for the player. > > Tez > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! That is not correct. I registered with vmware and I got license keys. Those are good and don't expire (maybe just with some future release, but apart from that...). I use the vmware server and there you can install the vmware tools simply by clicking VM->Install VMware Tools and then you can install them (it mounts an image with a tar file and rpm). Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 19:19:12 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:19:12 +0100 Subject: Edgy vs Dapper Drake? In-Reply-To: <200703151401.32868.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> References: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151401.32868.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703151219q55186f6ar810355a64f6cf0d3@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Dapper has Long Time Support, so I would recommend that anyway for any production environment, at least on the server side... 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In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703151219q55186f6ar810355a64f6cf0d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151401.32868.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> <3b27fa9d0703151219q55186f6ar810355a64f6cf0d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703151527.58155.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Thursday 15 March 2007, Phil Bieber wrote: >Hi! > >Dapper has Long Time Support, so I would recommend that anyway for any >production environment, at least on the server side... > >Cheers >Philipp Bieber From your sig, "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry Unfortunately, we don't have one... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "The most important thing in a man is not what he knows, but what he is." -- Narciso Yepes From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Thu Mar 15 20:24:44 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:24:44 -0400 Subject: Default handling of DVDs Message-ID: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> I made an unfortunate mistake and clicked the wrong thing, now when I put in a DVD it opens in Konqueror instead of Kaffeine. Can you tell me where this setting is kept? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives." -- John Stuart Mill From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 15 22:29:52 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:29:52 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Adept Updater and Upgrade from Edgy to Feisty In-Reply-To: <20070315190639.GR3789@muse.19inch.net> References: <200703101639.06346.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <20070315190639.GR3789@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <200703151829.53054.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Results posted, need some feedback on the memory issue. On Thursday 15 March 2007 03:06:39 pm Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 04:39:06PM -0500, Larry Hartman wrote: > > I am getting some curious activity on my Edgy distro with respect to my > > Adept manager. Adept recently went through a version upgrade. After it > > was done, the next time that the updater loaded and showed updates, at > > the conclusion of the update session it notified me of a new Kubuntu > > version. > > You have edgy-proposed enabled, which (as the name suggests) has > updates for early testing. > > > Even though I know that Feisty is still in RC5--as far as the website > > shows--I clicked yes and it proceeded to download the upgrade software. > > At the end of the download it asked me to close the window at which time > > the new upgrade software would exit Adept and load its own interface. So > > when I closed the window.....precisely nothing happened, Adept remained > > open and no other software loaded. When I closed Adept manually, nothing > > more happened. > > That's a known problem which is now fixed. Please try again and > report your results on > > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/84717 > > Jonathan From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Thu Mar 15 22:36:49 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:36:49 -0500 Subject: Default handling of DVDs In-Reply-To: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 15 March 2007 4:24 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > I made an unfortunate mistake and clicked the wrong thing, now when I > put in a DVD it opens in Konqueror instead of Kaffeine. Can you tell me > where this setting is kept? Settings -> Storage Media -- D. Michael McIntyre From tanghus at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 23:05:33 2007 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:05:33 +0100 Subject: Default handling of DVDs In-Reply-To: <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703160005.52735.tanghus@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu 15 March 2007 23:36, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 4:24 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > I made an unfortunate mistake and clicked the wrong thing, now when I > > put in a DVD it opens in Konqueror instead of Kaffeine. Can you tell me > > where this setting is kept? > > Settings -> Storage Media When I try that I cannot modify or remove existing ones. These options are grayed out. This is on Dapper. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre - -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thomas Olsen (1) Avoid fried meats which angry up the blood. (2) If your stomach antagonizes you, pacify it with cool thoughts. (3) Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gently as you move. (4) Go very lightly on the vices, such as carrying on in society, as the social ramble ain't restful. (5) Avoid running at all times. (6) Don't look back, something might be gaining on you. -- S. Paige, c. 1951 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF+dFQWNiChDCP5GkRAhWiAJ0bmIpMMOa3RHbaK0WDwTTzIhkU7gCbBpR+ fJx4EQ0SReakA/on1PHMmJo= =WB1u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Thu Mar 15 23:24:38 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:24:38 -0500 Subject: Default handling of DVDs In-Reply-To: <200703160005.52735.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200703160005.52735.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703151924.38375.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 15 March 2007 7:05 pm, Thomas Olsen wrote: > When I try that I cannot modify or remove existing ones. These options are > grayed out. This is on Dapper. Don't know why you'd want to modify existing ones, but you can apparently do it as root. Try sudo kcontrol Then go to Periperals -> Storage Devices. -- D. Michael McIntyre From tanghus at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 23:40:18 2007 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 00:40:18 +0100 Subject: Default handling of DVDs In-Reply-To: <200703151924.38375.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> <200703160005.52735.tanghus@gmail.com> <200703151924.38375.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703160040.36155.tanghus@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri 16 March 2007 00:24, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 7:05 pm, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > When I try that I cannot modify or remove existing ones. These options > > are grayed out. This is on Dapper. > > Don't know why you'd want to modify existing ones, but you can apparently > do it as root. Try > > sudo kcontrol > > Then go to Periperals -> Storage Devices. Don't really have the need my self, but as I was guiding a newb thru Kubuntu I noticed this what I would call inconsistency. Either the Modify/Remove buttons shouldn't be there or there should be an "Administrator Mode..." button. perhaps I should file it as a bug... - -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thomas Olsen The chief danger in life is that you may take too many precautions. -- Alfred Adler -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF+dl0WNiChDCP5GkRAqGKAJ9qz8ESZIp+Ru99KK1gMWhl2pzz7wCgkNp/ iNyEjUFbIkO/ohftltixcvE= =0FIr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Fri Mar 16 05:19:47 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:19:47 -0400 Subject: Default handling of DVDs In-Reply-To: <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <1174022387.5147.44.camel@tregonsee> On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 17:36 -0500, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 4:24 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > I made an unfortunate mistake and clicked the wrong thing, now when I > > put in a DVD it opens in Konqueror instead of Kaffeine. Can you tell me > > where this setting is kept? > > Settings -> Storage Media If you mean Settings in the K-menu, mine only gives Palm OS devices as an option. Or did you mean Settings somewhere else? Thank you, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 Think 24/6. Don't try to outdo God. From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Mar 16 04:57:19 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:57:19 -0500 Subject: Default handling of DVDs In-Reply-To: <1174022387.5147.44.camel@tregonsee> References: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <1174022387.5147.44.camel@tregonsee> Message-ID: <200703160057.19806.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 16 March 2007 1:19 am, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > If you mean Settings in the K-menu, mine only gives Palm OS devices as > an option. Or did you mean Settings somewhere else? Looks like I meant System Settings -> whatever. Or if you use the traditional KDE control panel it's on Peripherals -> Storage Media -- D. Michael McIntyre From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 16 05:53:56 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:53:56 -0400 Subject: New Version In-Reply-To: <45F82499.8050107@aurait.eu> References: <27b81ea70703140815l1741824cq8ed928cd573132@mail.gmail.com> <45F82499.8050107@aurait.eu> Message-ID: <45FA30F4.5010104@gatech.edu> Olivier Picquenot wrote: > Farid Ansari a écrit : >> Please let me know when the new Kubuntu is due to be released. I am >> currently using the 6.10 which is great but anxiously await the new 7.04. >> Regards, >> >> Farid >> > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/ > > "Feisty Fawn is going to be the next Ubuntu release, currently scheduled > for release on 19 April 2007" > > BTW, 7.04 means 4th month of 2007. That seriously never occured to me. Oh, I had inklings... Matt Flaschen From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 07:05:35 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:05:35 +0200 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703151204i7d7b0a8cl53f1f9ba73438d6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> <880dece00703151055l1498e1afybea9292845a70405@mail.gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0703151204i7d7b0a8cl53f1f9ba73438d6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00703160005y6ac719cbo5a3d73254dcf2885@mail.gmail.com> On 15/03/07, Phil Bieber wrote: > Hi! > > A fairly easy way to remove all VMWARE leftovers: (did that myself, cuz I > messed up an installation... ) > Open a shell an type > sudo updatedb > this will update the file database used by locate to find files > the run > locate vmware > and remove all findings except maybe installation files and such. Then you > ought to be able to install vmware. > Are you kidding? What if he has a file howto-install-vmware.txt on his system? You should NOT recommend to users to blindly erase everything they find. You cannot expect what he has on his system. I don't mean to attack you but that was a foolish, irresponsible, and potentially dangerous suggestion. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/world_wide_web.html http://dotancohen.com/howto/root_email.php From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Fri Mar 16 07:52:29 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:52:29 -0600 Subject: cannot start PPTP client Message-ID: <200703160152.29878.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> I installed the pptp-Linux and the pptpconfig packages on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) If I setup a vpn connection and try to connect I get this mesage: "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP" Then it hangs and never connects. Any Ideas? From hobbsee at kubuntu.org Fri Mar 16 09:02:47 2007 From: hobbsee at kubuntu.org (Sarah Hobbs) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:02:47 +1100 Subject: Edgy vs Dapper Drake? In-Reply-To: <200703151527.58155.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200703101510.41061.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151401.32868.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> <3b27fa9d0703151219q55186f6ar810355a64f6cf0d3@mail.gmail.com> <200703151527.58155.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <45FA5D37.8060508@kubuntu.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007, Phil Bieber wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Dapper has Long Time Support, so I would recommend that anyway for any >> production environment, at least on the server side... Please note this is for Security fixes ONLY, and maybe some updates for seriously broken packages. (so other things don't inadvertantly get broken) If you want the latest versions of packages, and they're not in backports, then you need to upgrade, or compile it yourself. Did kde 3.5.6 for dapper ever get done, or only for edgy? KDE4.0 will almost certainly not be made for dapper, either. Hobbsee -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+l027/o1b30rzoURArhxAJoD8V5hxZYwSO/c8KM05OquwNQE0gCg7OvY PPYs75rcOim7eGQTg0WLWJo= =azLG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Fri Mar 16 13:22:34 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:22:34 -0400 Subject: kubuntu's start up graphic is "nice" but I like the scrolling text! In-Reply-To: <45F72E49.9090105@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <45F72E49.9090105@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Mar 13, Tez did say: > Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > Unlike most windows users I don't get uncomfortable when a bunch of text > > scrolls past my screen at boot time. In fact I get uncomfortable when it > > doesn't. I "LIKE" seeing a lot of lines ending in "[OK]" or "[PASS]" > > Would someone remind me how to ditch the pretty graphic startup? > > I'm the same way, I _like_ to see what the system is doing (and if > something fails). > So I always disable the (XPish) boot splash (called usplash). > > It's nice and easy to do and doesn't require installing/removing any > packages. > Simply edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change: > # kopt=root=/dev/hda ro quiet splash > or whatever it is, to > # kopt=root=/dev/hda ro quiet > and remove the "splash" from the kernel options in the kernel list, or > run "sudo update-grub" to do it or you. > That will disable usplash and let you see the boot process (you may have > to remove "quiet" too) Thanks Tez, but now I do feel stupid. Or at least like I must own up to having CRS My laptop is intended to be multi booted. 3 different linux and the vista it came with. (vista will only rarely be used, and never without first disabling the internet connection.) But in any case once I've got kubuntu working the way I like it my next task is to set up my "real" boot partition... Once I get there I'd have most likely eliminated the quiet and splash kernel options anyway. (none of the examples I have to look at on my p3 desktop have them, But I had evidently forgotten why I eliminated them. Thanks for reminding me. * CRS : "Can't Remember Sh^Htuff" : In my case this mean that unless I * do something the same way every day for a LONG time, or have examples * of how I did it before (where I can still find them), I usually wind up * scratching my head the next time I need to do a non-daily task. ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF+pnORZ/61mwhY94RAoXqAKCVIZnNu4Zukj2BrRZiY4ZUssmeYACgsqep wSK2hMjshtmVqu8S4hiC3ag= =j/fF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <> From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Fri Mar 16 13:32:46 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:32:46 -0400 Subject: where did my /etc/inittab go??? In-Reply-To: <45F72F8E.8050109@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <45F72F8E.8050109@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Mar 13, Tez did say: > Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > The next thing I wanted to do was to edit /etc/inittab to say > > id:3:initdefault: > > But I can't find it. where has it gone???? > Edgy uses upstart which, by default, doesn't install an /etc/inittab > (tho it will read it if you make one). > But on to your question... > You want the default run level to be runlevel 3, and you probably don't > want to have to create a new inittab, ok. > All you need to do is edit /etc/event.d/rc-default to do it, change both > the "telinit 2" parts to "telinit 3" and that should boot you right in > to runlevel 3. > Though I haven't actually tested that, I don't see what it wouldn't work. Hmmnn upstart? man upstart didn't yield anything. [sigh] At least the files in /etc/event.d do seam to be fairly straightforward. To help me find them next time I'm looking for an inittab, I did a: ln -s /etc/event.d /etc/inittabSTUFF I made the "telinit" changes you suggested. But haven't yet reboot the laptop. (It's trying to download a live sabayon dvd image at the moment) If the teleinit settings don't work I'll let you know... In any case, thanks! ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF+pw7RZ/61mwhY94RAjfoAJ4wHJ4NqXS7PE0LPEUEKV4pcL0JgACfb0na Ut3YQt4pY1laex0F/P8Hgng= =BPfn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <> From lokeey at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 13:33:58 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:33:58 -0500 Subject: kubuntu's start up graphic is "nice" but I like the scrolling text! In-Reply-To: References: <45F72E49.9090105@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: hey joe, create a master file or "toolbox" with a list of commonly used commands and files that you edit or just anything that although, not used daily are common enough that you can have handy. On 3/16/07, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > It would appear that on Mar 13, Tez did say: > > > Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > > Unlike most windows users I don't get uncomfortable when a bunch of > text > > > scrolls past my screen at boot time. In fact I get uncomfortable when > it > > > doesn't. I "LIKE" seeing a lot of lines ending in "[OK]" or "[PASS]" > > > > Would someone remind me how to ditch the pretty graphic startup? > > > > I'm the same way, I _like_ to see what the system is doing (and if > > something fails). > > So I always disable the (XPish) boot splash (called usplash). > > > > It's nice and easy to do and doesn't require installing/removing any > > packages. > > Simply edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change: > > # kopt=root=/dev/hda ro quiet splash > > or whatever it is, to > > # kopt=root=/dev/hda ro quiet > > and remove the "splash" from the kernel options in the kernel list, or > > run "sudo update-grub" to do it or you. > > That will disable usplash and let you see the boot process (you may have > > to remove "quiet" too) > > Thanks Tez, but now I do feel stupid. Or at least like I must own up to > having CRS My laptop is intended to be multi booted. > 3 different linux and the vista it came with. (vista will only rarely be > used, and never without first disabling the internet connection.) > But in any case once I've got kubuntu working the way I like it my next > task is to set up my "real" boot partition... Once I get there I'd have > most likely eliminated the quiet and splash kernel options anyway. (none > of the examples I have to look at on my p3 desktop have them, But I had > evidently forgotten why I eliminated them. Thanks for reminding me. > > * CRS : "Can't Remember Sh^Htuff" : In my case this mean that unless I > * do something the same way every day for a LONG time, or have examples > * of how I did it before (where I can still find them), I usually wind up > * scratching my head the next time I need to do a non-daily task. > > > ############################################################# > ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## > ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## > ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## > #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# > # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # > ############################################################# > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFF+pnORZ/61mwhY94RAoXqAKCVIZnNu4Zukj2BrRZiY4ZUssmeYACgsqep > wSK2hMjshtmVqu8S4hiC3ag= > =j/fF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > | --- ___ > | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook > | ^ J(tWdy)P > | ~\___/~ <> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zwilnik at zwilnik.com Fri Mar 16 14:04:56 2007 From: zwilnik at zwilnik.com (Kevin B. O'Brien) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:04:56 -0400 Subject: Default handling of DVDs In-Reply-To: <200703160057.19806.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <1173990284.5147.35.camel@tregonsee> <200703151836.49261.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <1174022387.5147.44.camel@tregonsee> <200703160057.19806.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <1174053896.5147.47.camel@tregonsee> On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 23:57 -0500, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Friday 16 March 2007 1:19 am, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > > If you mean Settings in the K-menu, mine only gives Palm OS devices as > > an option. Or did you mean Settings somewhere else? > > Looks like I meant System Settings -> whatever. Or if you use the traditional > KDE control panel it's on Peripherals -> Storage Media Thank you, that did it and I got it fixed. -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwilnik at zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 "The mark of an immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one." -- William Stekel From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Fri Mar 16 15:55:09 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:55:09 -0600 Subject: how to install older packages Message-ID: <200703160955.09987.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; How can I find/install an older version of a package? From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 16:21:26 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:21:26 +0200 Subject: how to install older packages In-Reply-To: <200703160955.09987.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703160955.09987.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200703161821.26517.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > How can I find/install an older version of a package? Study Star Trek, build a time machine. Or install Hoary ;) Sorry, I have no idea! :D /d From rbmorse at comcast.net Fri Mar 16 18:40:13 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 12:40:13 -0600 Subject: how to install older packages In-Reply-To: <200703160955.09987.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703160955.09987.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <200703161240.13512.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Friday 16 March 2007 09:55:09 Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > How can I find/install an older version of a package? Try: http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/ Ron Morse From peterulrich at gmx.net Fri Mar 16 20:33:52 2007 From: peterulrich at gmx.net (Peter Ulrich) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:33:52 +0100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <45F7E749.7000703@iinet.net.au> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> <45F7E749.7000703@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <45FAFF30.3000100@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 neil.linux wrote: > Is there any chance that the card has been corrupted somehow? > > Your camera acts as a card reader when plugged in to the USB port--if > you are getting the same error (unable to list files) when using the > camera and the card reader then there is a good chance that the problem > lies with the card. > > > If you have another card take some images using it and try accessing > that one via the USB port. > > hth > > Neil B > Melbourne, Australia > That can't be the reason for the malfunction: the card is readable under WindowsXP - as I mentioned. I tried it with an other card. Result: same error message. I tried it with gtkam. The resulting error message is: "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdcxx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device." I am helpless. Peter - -- PGP/GPG: 6144 64D0 B717 D644 CC23 F6EB E419 ADDA 02C2 59BB Key at server or http://www.peterulrich.de/pgp/peterulrich.asc Registered LINUX User: #372502 GoogleEarth: 52 31 16.80 N, 13 21 16.50 E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+v8w5Bmt2gLCWbsRAgqxAKCM9nRv8yv60KK1ZbLBANUpaj/LJwCg2eWW chezQ/aNzMdl4fl1YELDaX8= =/Ap2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Fri Mar 16 20:36:34 2007 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:36:34 -0400 Subject: Help -- Konqueror is rendering the same page differently... Message-ID: <200703161636.34743.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> I have a page with a Javascript slideshow. When the local copy is viewed, the slideshow works correctly. The copy I load onto my webserver does not. The problem has been narrowed to a probable cause of the Javascript of the web copy not being executed. The Javascript sets the names of the displayed images which are held in an array. When run locally, the names of the various slides are correct. The 'net copy does not set any of the names, as though the section of code which assigns the names to the array is not evaluated. Could this be a Konqueror error? When the local version is run, the JavaScript runs. When running the web copy, the Javascript is halted because of error; a variable cannot be found. Why would a local copy work and the same files copied to web server fail? Any help or insight is deeply appreciated, Bob From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 21:02:52 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:02:52 +0200 Subject: Help -- Konqueror is rendering the same page differently... In-Reply-To: <200703161636.34743.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> References: <200703161636.34743.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <200703162302.52768.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Why would a local copy work and the same files copied to web server fail? > > Any help or insight is deeply appreciated, Sounds like a problem with paths. Are you using absolute or relative paths? Try a bunch of document.write() or alert() statements to show what's going on internally. Just a guess. You could post code too. Also, mention the error message. /d From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 16 22:51:10 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:51:10 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu With USB Wireless Adapters Message-ID: <20070316225110.54c14587@oldrocker> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If this isn't the right forum for my query, please accept my apology, and perhaps somebody could refer me to the correct list? I need to move my PC into another room in order to use it with my university studies. My PC has only a limited number of card slots - and they are all filled - - so I thought I'd try to find a usb network adapter to use with Kubuntu Edgy (currently running KDE 3.5.6) and my D-Link wireless router. A friend of mine brought his WinXP laptop around and it worked fine with his adapter, the TP-LINK TL-WN321G. Since the box said it was compatible with Linux, I, too, went and bought one, and found that the set up instructions were only for Windows and the website detailing the functionality only mentions that it runs under Windows. There is a support email address (in China), but my enquiries have met without response. First of all, can anybody help me with setting up the usb adapter to work with Kubuntu Edgy? Secondly, can anyone suggest a suitable alternative wireless usb adapter to work with Kubuntu? Alternatively, can you suggest any other way of getting wireless connectivity without a wireless card? - -- Graham -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Please sign and encrypt for internet privacy iD8DBQFF+x9xk/lTyNG98YcRAtKdAJ9/4Blzzb155+jdI18CRUNUJIVJiwCgrjFs fWECWdVBYQ676JpdJlBfzGk= =kqM9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From webguytx at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 02:54:36 2007 From: webguytx at gmail.com (Robert) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:54:36 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu With USB Wireless Adapters In-Reply-To: <20070316225110.54c14587@oldrocker> References: <20070316225110.54c14587@oldrocker> Message-ID: <45FB586C.4090407@gmail.com> Graham wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > If this isn't the right forum for my query, please accept my apology, and > perhaps somebody could refer me to the correct list? > > I need to move my PC into another room in order to use it with my university > studies. My PC has only a limited number of card slots - and they are all filled > - - so I thought I'd try to find a usb network adapter to use with Kubuntu Edgy > (currently running KDE 3.5.6) and my D-Link wireless router. > > A friend of mine brought his WinXP laptop around and it worked fine with his > adapter, the TP-LINK TL-WN321G. Since the box said it was compatible with > Linux, I, too, went and bought one, and found that the set up instructions were > only for Windows and the website detailing the functionality only mentions that > it runs under Windows. There is a support email address (in China), but my > enquiries have met without response. > > First of all, can anybody help me with setting up the usb adapter to work with > Kubuntu Edgy? > > Secondly, can anyone suggest a suitable alternative wireless usb adapter to > work with Kubuntu? Alternatively, can you suggest any other way of getting > wireless connectivity without a wireless card? > > - -- > > Graham > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Please sign and encrypt for internet privacy > > iD8DBQFF+x9xk/lTyNG98YcRAtKdAJ9/4Blzzb155+jdI18CRUNUJIVJiwCgrjFs > fWECWdVBYQ676JpdJlBfzGk= > =kqM9 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > You will need to use ndiswrapper. http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ Also check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org, They have info for this. Robert From tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com Sat Mar 17 02:19:31 2007 From: tilleyrw at cfl.rr.com (Robert Tilley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:19:31 -0400 Subject: Thanks for help with rendering problems Message-ID: <200703162219.32102.tilleyrw@cfl.rr.com> I was able to understand and fix the rendering problem with my web pages, in large part due to the prodding from the list to think of new and different possible causes. Thanks for the inspiration! Bob -- It has been said that Public Relations is the art of winning friends and getting people under the influence. -- Jeremy Tunstall From macariov at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 03:07:37 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:07:37 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu With USB Wireless Adapters In-Reply-To: <45FB586C.4090407@gmail.com> References: <20070316225110.54c14587@oldrocker> <45FB586C.4090407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174100857.14520.8.camel@macvalle> I have a one og those linksys wireless G internal cards, sold over at office depot for about $19.99. Now Edgy does not recognize what it is, says unknown, but it is smart enough to find out it is wireless. I went to System Setting--> Network Setting, configured the wireless essid to my regular one under ath0, disables and reanabled the card back and it has been working ever since. That was done over three months ago for the first time. I have been installing different packages and scripts and other components have failed, but not this one so far. I never even thought about even saving the manual, but I will oepn the box and check the model when I get a chance. On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 20:54 -0600, Robert wrote: > Graham wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > If this isn't the right forum for my query, please accept my apology, and > > perhaps somebody could refer me to the correct list? > > > > I need to move my PC into another room in order to use it with my university > > studies. My PC has only a limited number of card slots - and they are all filled > > - - so I thought I'd try to find a usb network adapter to use with Kubuntu Edgy > > (currently running KDE 3.5.6) and my D-Link wireless router. > > > > A friend of mine brought his WinXP laptop around and it worked fine with his > > adapter, the TP-LINK TL-WN321G. Since the box said it was compatible with > > Linux, I, too, went and bought one, and found that the set up instructions were > > only for Windows and the website detailing the functionality only mentions that > > it runs under Windows. There is a support email address (in China), but my > > enquiries have met without response. > > > > First of all, can anybody help me with setting up the usb adapter to work with > > Kubuntu Edgy? > > > > Secondly, can anyone suggest a suitable alternative wireless usb adapter to > > work with Kubuntu? Alternatively, can you suggest any other way of getting > > wireless connectivity without a wireless card? > > > > - -- > > > > Graham > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Please sign and encrypt for internet privacy > > > > iD8DBQFF+x9xk/lTyNG98YcRAtKdAJ9/4Blzzb155+jdI18CRUNUJIVJiwCgrjFs > > fWECWdVBYQ676JpdJlBfzGk= > > =kqM9 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > You will need to use ndiswrapper. http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ > > Also check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org, They have info for this. > > Robert > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Mar 17 05:42:27 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:42:27 +0000 Subject: how to install older packages In-Reply-To: <200703161240.13512.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703160955.09987.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703161240.13512.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45FB7FC3.8050202@blueyonder.co.uk> Ron Morse wrote: > On Friday 16 March 2007 09:55:09 Kevin Kempter wrote: > >> Hi List; >> >> How can I find/install an older version of a package? >> > > Try: > > http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/ > > Ron Morse > > If you know the version you want, you can do: sudo apt-get install package=version eg: sudo apt-get install firefox=2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 Tez From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 11:43:14 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:43:14 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help Message-ID: <45FBD452.3010202@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm still stuck. Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : ****** [lots of things] ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' Checking module listings... Modules have gone missing: [all modules to build listed here] Will not continue! make: *** [build] Erreur 1 ****** ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing else than in the previous error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks Frederic From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 11:37:23 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:37:23 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help Message-ID: <45FBD2F3.5050208@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm still stuck. Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : ****** [lots of things] ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' Checking module listings... Modules have gone missing: [all modules to build listed here] Will not continue! make: *** [build] Erreur 1 ****** ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing else than in the previous error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks Frederic From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 11:38:58 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:38:58 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help Message-ID: <45FBD352.3060608@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm still stuck. Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : ****** [lots of things] ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' Checking module listings... Modules have gone missing: [all modules to build listed here] Will not continue! make: *** [build] Erreur 1 ****** ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing else than in the previous error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks Frederic From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 11:37:49 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:37:49 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help Message-ID: <45FBD30D.6040307@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm still stuck. Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : ****** [lots of things] ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' Checking module listings... Modules have gone missing: [all modules to build listed here] Will not continue! make: *** [build] Erreur 1 ****** ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing else than in the previous error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks Frederic From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 11:41:34 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:41:34 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help Message-ID: <45FBD3EE.3050709@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm still stuck. Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : ****** [lots of things] ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' Checking module listings... Modules have gone missing: [all modules to build listed here] Will not continue! make: *** [build] Erreur 1 ****** ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing else than in the previous error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks Frederic From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 11:36:56 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:36:56 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help Message-ID: <45FBD2D8.5090302@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm still stuck. Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : ****** [lots of things] ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' Checking module listings... Modules have gone missing: [all modules to build listed here] Will not continue! make: *** [build] Erreur 1 ****** ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing else than in the previous error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks Frederic From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 11:36:28 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:36:28 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help Message-ID: <45FBD2BC.3090003@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm still stuck. Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : ****** [lots of things] ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' Checking module listings... Modules have gone missing: [all modules to build listed here] Will not continue! make: *** [build] Erreur 1 ****** ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing else than in the previous error message. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Thanks Frederic From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 17 12:11:53 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:11:53 +0100 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help In-Reply-To: <45FBD2BC.3090003@wanadoo.fr> References: <45FBD2BC.3090003@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <45FBDB09.8000001@wanadoo.fr> Wow..... veeeeeeery sorry about sending so many emails ! My ISP's SMTP was *apparently* failing to send emails, but it seems it sent them anyway... I hate my ISP and all french ISP :'( Cheers Fred Schaer a écrit : > Hi, > > I downloaded the ubuntu kernel using "git" (I patched it with the > core2duo coretemp stuff), and I'm now trying to build this... > I followed the howtos, looked in google, in the kernel docs, but I'm > still stuck. > > Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" > (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : > > ****** > [lots of things] > ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== > sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory > make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' > Checking module listings... > > Modules have gone missing: > > [all modules to build listed here] > > Will not continue! > make: *** [build] Erreur 1 > ****** > > ..... Uh ? I read in the kernel docs that the Module.symvers file had to > be built using a whole kernel build, and I suceeded in buildin it using > the "old debian way" (make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd > --append-to-version=fred kernel-image kernel-headers). > > Unfortunately, this old way failed at the end just before it built the > packages... anyway, I got this damn Module.symvers file. Now that I got > it, I had to clean the kernel sources tree (the debian/rules file was > not the original one - why ??) and retry the debian/rules stuff... to > see that it's still failing saying modules have gone missing....????? > Now, it doesn't complain about the file missing, but it says nothing > else than in the previous error message. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated :) > Thanks > > Frederic > > From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 13:28:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:28:13 +0200 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help In-Reply-To: <45FBDB09.8000001@wanadoo.fr> References: <45FBD2BC.3090003@wanadoo.fr> <45FBDB09.8000001@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <200703171528.13378.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Wow..... veeeeeeery sorry about sending so many emails ! no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem no problem :D /d From neil at holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk Sat Mar 17 14:42:16 2007 From: neil at holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:42:16 +0000 Subject: No messages Message-ID: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> I haven't had any emails from the list since the 9th. Can anyone suggest why please? Neil From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sat Mar 17 15:21:10 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:21:10 -0400 Subject: No messages In-Reply-To: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> References: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> Message-ID: <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: >I haven't had any emails from the list since the 9th. Can anyone suggest >why please? > >Neil > > > > You were voted off the list. We don´t like you anymore.... (nah...I really don´t know... I keep getting msgs here.) /tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 15:32:24 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:32:24 +0200 Subject: No messages In-Reply-To: <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> References: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200703171732.24855.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > You were voted off the list. > We don´t like you anymore.... Hey! We weren't supposed to tell him about that ... Damn conspiracies, so hard to keep 'em secret :-D /d From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Sat Mar 17 15:32:41 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:32:41 +0000 Subject: No messages In-Reply-To: <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> References: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> Message-ID: <20070317153241.e09397f2.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:21:10 -0400 anthony baldwin wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > >I haven't had any emails from the list since the 9th. Can anyone suggest > >why please? > > > >Neil > > > > > > > > > You were voted off the list. > We don´t like you anymore.... > > > (nah...I really don´t know... > I keep getting msgs here.) > > /tony > I have two email providers so I have cancelled the one which has stopped working for me and I have set myself up on the other one. That is obviously working so that's fine. I use both providers about equally so it doesn't matter to me which one I use. So back to normal Neil From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 15:32:53 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:32:53 -0400 Subject: No messages In-Reply-To: <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> References: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> Message-ID: <45FC0A25.7040709@gmail.com> anthony baldwin wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > >> I haven't had any emails from the list since the 9th. Can anyone suggest >> why please? >> >> Neil >> >> >> >> >> > You were voted off the list. > We don´t like you anymore.... > Yep. That was it. I remember. It was a big meeting. Everybody was there. Speeches and everything. I think I remember black crepe and balloons. They like me, so I've been getting messages right along. I'd check with my ISP, who may have blacklisted us in retaliation. stew From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 17:53:41 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:53:41 -0600 Subject: Q: panel configuration Message-ID: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> I have a couple of questions about where to change details of the panel configuration. Historically, I ran with the panel size set to "Tiny", but now I have enough icons in the system tray that I wanted to give myself more room by doubling the height of the panel. So I set the size to "Normal". This had the intended effect of doubling the height... BUT there were two things it didn't do, and which mean that I really didn't get a whole lot of extra space. 1. The Application icons (the ones on the left) became much larger than they were before: how do I shrink those icons back down to their 16-pixel versions? (These icons also really look clunky, because they are so much bigger than every other icon on my desktop.) 2. The system tray, even though it's now twice as high as before, still has all the icons in a single line. How do force the icons in the system tray to stack so that there are two lines of them instead of the current single line? I have looked in all the KDE configuration places I can think of, but haven't found any way to change either of these. Without these changes, though, the "Normal" size of the panel wastes a tremendous amount of space. From haroldh at midmaine.com Sat Mar 17 18:39:23 2007 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:39:23 -0400 Subject: Linux Fileserver Message-ID: <45FC35DB.3080402@midmaine.com> I have plans to convert my old desktop PC's to fileservers and use my laptop as my daily computer on my network. When I setup fileservers on my desktop PC's, will I still be able to burn .ISO images to cd even though I will be running a fileserver on the PC. Harold From rjglinux at cox.net Sat Mar 17 18:51:40 2007 From: rjglinux at cox.net (Richard Grant) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:51:40 -0700 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <45FAFF30.3000100@gmx.net> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> <45F7E749.7000703@iinet.net.au> <45FAFF30.3000100@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1174157500.4532.13.camel@abitbw7-raidrjg> My memory card reader is the "Sabrent 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader/Writer". I'm using the same model on four other computers in my network with no problems. (A couple of Windows XP computers and one OpenSUSE 10.2 computer.) The computer where that memory card reader will not work runs on an Abit BW7-RAID motherboard. Could it be a compatibility issue with the hardware itself? I.e., the USB may be a different version? Maybe too old, and the motherboards may need a BIOS update? Richard Grant On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 21:33 +0100, Peter Ulrich wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > neil.linux wrote: > > > Is there any chance that the card has been corrupted somehow? > > > > Your camera acts as a card reader when plugged in to the USB port--if > > you are getting the same error (unable to list files) when using the > > camera and the card reader then there is a good chance that the problem > > lies with the card. > > > > > > If you have another card take some images using it and try accessing > > that one via the USB port. > > > > hth > > > > Neil B > > Melbourne, Australia > > > That can't be the reason for the malfunction: the card is readable under > WindowsXP - as I mentioned. I tried it with an other card. Result: same > error message. > > I tried it with gtkam. The resulting error message is: > > "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): > Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no > other program or kernel module (such as sdcxx, stv680, spca50x) is using > the device and you have read/write access to the device." > > I am helpless. > > Peter > > - -- > PGP/GPG: 6144 64D0 B717 D644 CC23 F6EB E419 ADDA 02C2 59BB > Key at server or http://www.peterulrich.de/pgp/peterulrich.asc > Registered LINUX User: #372502 > GoogleEarth: 52 31 16.80 N, 13 21 16.50 E > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF+v8w5Bmt2gLCWbsRAgqxAKCM9nRv8yv60KK1ZbLBANUpaj/LJwCg2eWW > chezQ/aNzMdl4fl1YELDaX8= > =/Ap2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From macariov at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 18:52:33 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:52:33 -0400 Subject: Q: panel configuration In-Reply-To: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174157553.14520.18.camel@macvalle> 1.Right click on the panel 2.KDE Panel configuration window comes up, 2/3 in the middle under "Size:" change to small, as opposed to "tiny", Close 3. Go to "System Setting" on the KDE menu. 3. Choose Icons, Advanced, Change the size in pixels on the "Size" option. You will need to experiment a little, as this is a taste based choice. I prefer 48 pixels, but that is only because it approximates the Mac and Wintel size. Old habits die hard. On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 11:53 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > I have a couple of questions about where to change details of the > panel configuration. > > Historically, I ran with the panel size set to "Tiny", but now I have > enough icons in the system tray that I wanted to give myself more room > by doubling the height of the panel. > > So I set the size to "Normal". This had the intended effect of > doubling the height... BUT there were two things it didn't do, and > which mean that I really didn't get a whole lot of extra space. > > 1. The Application icons (the ones on the left) became much larger > than they were before: how do I shrink those icons back down to their > 16-pixel versions? (These icons also really look clunky, because they > are so much bigger than every other icon on my desktop.) > > 2. The system tray, even though it's now twice as high as before, > still has all the icons in a single line. How do force the icons in > the system tray to stack so that there are two lines of them instead > of the current single line? > > I have looked in all the KDE configuration places I can think of, but > haven't found any way to change either of these. Without these > changes, though, the "Normal" size of the panel wastes a tremendous > amount of space. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Sat Mar 17 19:14:38 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:14:38 -0600 Subject: sql-ledger Message-ID: <200703171314.38936.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Is anyone using sql-ledger on Kubuntu Dapper? I have installed the program using apt-get and have been able to create myself as a user. However, when I go to the database administration page, the default for the user seems to be sql-ledger and then when I click on "Create Dataset", I get the error message "Role "sql-ledger" does not exist." Any help would be appreciated. Arthur From whegge at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 19:29:05 2007 From: whegge at gmail.com (Wes Hegge) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:29:05 -0500 Subject: Linux Fileserver In-Reply-To: <45FC35DB.3080402@midmaine.com> References: <45FC35DB.3080402@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Sure. A file server in Linux is not much different from a desktop, except that usually there is no gui loaded. This means you may want to learn the command line functions to burn an ISO On 3/17/07, Harold Hartley wrote: > > I have plans to convert my old desktop PC's to fileservers and use my > laptop as my daily computer on my network. > When I setup fileservers on my desktop PC's, will I still be able to > burn .ISO images to cd even though I will be running a fileserver on the > PC. > > Harold > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Mar 17 19:53:54 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:53:54 -0500 Subject: No messages In-Reply-To: <20070317153241.e09397f2.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> <20070317153241.e09397f2.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200703171553.54609.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 17 March 2007 11:32 am, Neil Winchurst wrote: > is obviously working so that's fine. I use both providers about > equally so it doesn't matter to me which one I use. > > So back to normal That's probably it. I have sooooooo many addresses, and I keep getting new ones when I can't get some list or other to play nice with me. It all comes down to the things people do to try to fight spam. -- D. Michael McIntyre From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 22:12:40 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:12:40 -0600 Subject: Q: panel configuration In-Reply-To: <1174157553.14520.18.camel@macvalle> References: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> <1174157553.14520.18.camel@macvalle> Message-ID: <45FC67D8.2090103@gmail.com> Macario Valle said the following at 03/17/2007 12:52 PM : > 1.Right click on the panel > 2.KDE Panel configuration window comes up, 2/3 in the middle under > "Size:" change to small, as opposed to "tiny", Close > I already set it to "Normal", to double the size as compared to "Tiny". I think that "Normal" is the right size, since "Tiny" doesn't make the bar sufficiently tall to accommodate two rows of icons. > 3. Go to "System Setting" on the KDE menu. > 3. Choose Icons, Advanced, Change the size in pixels on the "Size" There is no "Icons" option when I open "System Settings". :-( There is a Appearance | Icons | Advanced, and then a series of sub-options: Dektop/File Manager, Toolbar, Main Toolbar, Small Icons, Panel, All Icons -- but Toolbar and Main Toolbar are already set to 16, and Panel is set to 32 but can't be changed. I suspect that what I need is a way to change the Toolbar value to 16, but that's what I don't know how to do. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Mar 17 23:04:31 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:04:31 -0400 Subject: Linux Fileserver In-Reply-To: References: <45FC35DB.3080402@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <45FC73FF.9080309@gatech.edu> Wes Hegge wrote: > Sure. A file server in Linux is not much different from a desktop, except > that usually there is no gui loaded. This means you may want to learn the > command line functions to burn an ISO Which are not that hard. Search for cdrecord . However, you *can* run a file server in addition to a GUI. You'll have a performance loss, but it's probably doable unless these computers are very old. Matt Flaschen > > On 3/17/07, Harold Hartley wrote: >> >> I have plans to convert my old desktop PC's to fileservers and use my >> laptop as my daily computer on my network. >> When I setup fileservers on my desktop PC's, will I still be able to >> burn .ISO images to cd even though I will be running a fileserver on the >> PC. >> >> Harold >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > From manchicken at notsosoft.net Sat Mar 17 23:39:35 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Michael D. Stemle, Jr.) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:39:35 -0500 Subject: sql-ledger In-Reply-To: <200703171314.38936.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> References: <200703171314.38936.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <200703171839.35953.manchicken@notsosoft.net> On Saturday 17 March 2007 14:14:38 Arthur Dyck wrote: > Is anyone using sql-ledger on Kubuntu Dapper? I have installed the program > using apt-get and have been able to create myself as a user. However, when > I go to the database administration page, the default for the user seems to > be sql-ledger and then when I click on "Create Dataset", I get the error > message "Role "sql-ledger" does not exist." Any help would be appreciated. > > Arthur Make sure that the user name exists in your DBMS. -- ~ Michael D. Stemle, Jr. <>< (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer The number of the beast - vi vi vi From karlok at fastmail.fm Sat Mar 17 23:58:45 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl Klinger) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:58:45 -0700 Subject: Q: panel configuration In-Reply-To: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FC80B5.6020504@fastmail.fm> D. R. Evans wrote: > So I set the size to "Normal". This had the intended effect of > doubling the height... BUT there were two things it didn't do, and > which mean that I really didn't get a whole lot of extra space. > > 1. The Application icons (the ones on the left) became much larger > than they were before: how do I shrink those icons back down to their > 16-pixel versions? (These icons also really look clunky, because they > are so much bigger than every other icon on my desktop.) I put all my application icons into the quicklauncher applet where the icon size is easy to change. I set the panel size to large, and the icon size to 24 so I get two rows of application icons - saves a lot of space. > 2. The system tray, even though it's now twice as high as before, > still has all the icons in a single line. How do force the icons in > the system tray to stack so that there are two lines of them instead > of the current single line? > Setting the panel size to large automatically stacks the system tray icons. Since I also set the panel to autohide, the extra height doesn't bother me. From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Sun Mar 18 01:59:07 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:59:07 -0600 Subject: emergency - lost identity Message-ID: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> I seem to have lost my user identity and password and su access. Is there any way of restoring these? I am using Kubuntu Dapper. When I try to go into Users and Groups go into Administrator Mode, I get "Su returned with an error" The diagnostics is: Possible reasons: An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module. You have old third party modules lying around . Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in the error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or packager." If need be, can I reinstall Kubuntu while leaving my data files intact? I am trying to back them up but K3b has frozen and I can't even get my CD drive to open. Arthur From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 02:12:44 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:12:44 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner Message-ID: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> March 17, 2007 Good day tgo all, I am new to Linux OS and Kubuntu (UBUNTU) and I have to say that know very little about how to find, install different packages.. I have 2 older computers ( motherboard MSI K7PRO / MS-6185 ) and have decided to dedicate them to learning about LINUX. I dedicated one hard disk 20GB to UBUNTU on one computer and another hard disk 40GB on the other old computer (still working very well) to KUBUNTU. My problem is .. I have an EPSON scanner, 4490 perfection 4490 PHOTO that I use with my Mac IBOOK G4 and I want to switch to these new OS and I do not know how to install it on these computers because Kubuntu or UBUNTU do not recognize the scanner. The Kubuntu Documentation is silent about scanner package.... nothing in the official Documentation. By the way I have one suggestion in order to facilitate usability for newcomers ( people like me who know very little ). The Documentation should present the names of all the different programs included in an alphebatical order with a simple description of what they do, serve or support... Ex. What is Ark ? I do not know. How do I know that Kamera is part of KUBUNTU as a program to take care of some cameras and only certain models ? For instance I am still not sure of what is the purpose of ALSA what it does, etc... Nothing is said in the Documentation. Remenber we are newfy! to linux OS Anyway After 2 full nights of reading all the definitions of every package in Adept I found '' libsane'' . I installed the package but nothing happened for my scanner... I have also found a ''kooka'' scanner package, I also installed the package and it said to install OCVRAD or ORGOCR ( I never found these 2 things ) for what purpose ? No better luck... it still did not work. It also referred to '' Sane'' a scanner source packjage but it contains external backends - not tested..... What does that mean ? and what do to get my scanner running? I would appreciate some explanations or some reference literature. Thanking you all for the input.... Denis Gaulin, St-Bruno, Qc, Canada From macariov at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 02:37:09 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:37:09 -0400 Subject: Q: panel configuration In-Reply-To: <45FC67D8.2090103@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> <1174157553.14520.18.camel@macvalle> <45FC67D8.2090103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174185429.5698.6.camel@macvalle> My bad, I misunderstood you. Here is how to get around to that: 1. right click on the panel and choose "Add Applet to panel", add quick Launcher 2. got to a terminal and restart kicker: dcop kicker kicker restart 3. right click on the quick launcher area and select "Configure QuickLauncher" 4. Change "Icon Size from Automatic to your desired size. Long way around, but that is the only way I have found. The other option: Appeareance->Icons->advanced-> panel seems to not have been implemented so far, i have 3.5.6. I hope this helps! On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 16:12 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > Macario Valle said the following at 03/17/2007 12:52 PM : > > 1.Right click on the panel > > 2.KDE Panel configuration window comes up, 2/3 in the middle under > > "Size:" change to small, as opposed to "tiny", Close > > > > I already set it to "Normal", to double the size as compared to "Tiny". I > think that "Normal" is the right size, since "Tiny" doesn't make the bar > sufficiently tall to accommodate two rows of icons. > > > 3. Go to "System Setting" on the KDE menu. > > 3. Choose Icons, Advanced, Change the size in pixels on the "Size" > > There is no "Icons" option when I open "System Settings". > > :-( > > There is a Appearance | Icons | Advanced, and then a series of sub-options: > Dektop/File Manager, Toolbar, Main Toolbar, Small Icons, Panel, All Icons > -- but Toolbar and Main Toolbar are already set to 16, and Panel is set to > 32 but can't be changed. > > I suspect that what I need is a way to change the Toolbar value to 16, but > that's what I don't know how to do. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 02:40:45 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: emergency - lost identity In-Reply-To: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <179714.25255.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Arthur Dyck wrote: > > If need be, can I reinstall Kubuntu while leaving my data files > intact? I am > trying to back them up but K3b has frozen and I can't even get my > CD drive to > open. > > Arthur > I have successfully recovered data from crashed Windows and Linux installations using a live CD such as Knoppix running K3B to burn data CDs. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Sun Mar 18 03:02:48 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:02:48 -0600 Subject: emergency - lost identity In-Reply-To: <179714.25255.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <179714.25255.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703172102.48848.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Thanks. I am in the process of using ftp to move my data files and then I will do a reinstall. On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:40, Earl Violet wrote: > --- Arthur Dyck wrote: > > If need be, can I reinstall Kubuntu while leaving my data files > > intact? I am > > trying to back them up but K3b has frozen and I can't even get my > > CD drive to > > open. > > > > Arthur > > I have successfully recovered data from crashed Windows and Linux > installations using a live CD such as Knoppix running K3B to burn > data CDs. > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 18 03:05:05 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:05:05 -0400 Subject: emergency - lost identity In-Reply-To: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> References: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <200703172305.05945.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Reloading Kubuntu seems a bit overkill, have you tried restarting in recovery mode? ...logs in automatically as root. At the prompt you can add your previous username and assign it to appropriate groups, specifically admin. Restart back in normal mode and test settings. Someone please correct me if I am wrong or misunderstood the issue. Hate to see a reload if it could be avoided....lots of man-hours lost. Larry On Saturday 17 March 2007 09:59:07 pm Arthur Dyck wrote: > I seem to have lost my user identity and password and su access. Is there > any way of restoring these? I am using Kubuntu Dapper. > > When I try to go into Users and Groups go into Administrator Mode, I get > "Su returned with an error" > > The diagnostics is: > > Possible reasons: > > An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control > module. > > You have old third party modules lying around . > > Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in the > error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor or > packager." > > If need be, can I reinstall Kubuntu while leaving my data files intact? I > am trying to back them up but K3b has frozen and I can't even get my CD > drive to open. > > Arthur From mangg at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 03:17:39 2007 From: mangg at yahoo.com (Joseph) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Linux Fileserver Message-ID: <368970.66168.qm@web56106.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello Harold, You can load Kubuntu desktop and have it function as a NFS file server if you want. If you have Wind0w$ and Linux then you should setup Samba and SWAT. What others have highlighted is that Ubuntu server does not come with a desktop environment, applications and GUI tools to manage as Kubuntu/Ubuntu desktop distros do. Additionally there are additional security issues introduced into the equation if you run a desktop as a "server." If you want to have a GUI access to CD/DVD burning on that box you can load VNC and run the box headless (sans monitor) and connect to it over your internal network. If its just in your own home network behind a firewall then do what is best for you. Thats why FOSS is so kewl you can do what you like and customize to your hearts content. Over time you will become more familiar and comfortable with the CLI and it will be much less intimidating. Don't be intimidated just try it and you will learn. You can always practice with virtual machines as well. If all of this sounds to annoying to setup you can also check out freenas cuz its got a simple web gui. KDE NFS Server Setup >> In KDE you would go to Systems Settings >> Sharing >> File Sharing. CLI NFS Server Setup >> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889 Best of luck, J Message: 6 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:04:31 -0400 From: Matthew Flaschen Subject: Re: Linux Fileserver To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Message-ID: <45FC73FF.9080309 at gatech.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wes Hegge wrote: > Sure. A file server in Linux is not much different from a desktop, except > that usually there is no gui loaded. This means you may want to learn the > command line functions to burn an ISO Which are not that hard. Search for cdrecord . However, you *can* run a file server in addition to a GUI. You'll have a performance loss, but it's probably doable unless these computers are very old. Matt Flaschen > > On 3/17/07, Harold Hartley wrote: >> >> I have plans to convert my old desktop PC's to fileservers and use my >> laptop as my daily computer on my network. >> When I setup fileservers on my desktop PC's, will I still be able to >> burn .ISO images to cd even though I will be running a fileserver on the >> PC. >> >> Harold From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Sun Mar 18 04:39:33 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:39:33 -0600 Subject: emergency - lost identity In-Reply-To: <200703172305.05945.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> <200703172305.05945.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703172239.34078.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> I'll give that a try. Thanks. On Saturday 17 March 2007 21:05, Larry Hartman wrote: > Reloading Kubuntu seems a bit overkill, have you tried restarting in > recovery mode? ...logs in automatically as root. At the prompt you can > add your previous username and assign it to appropriate groups, > specifically admin. Restart back in normal mode and test settings. > > Someone please correct me if I am wrong or misunderstood the issue. Hate > to see a reload if it could be avoided....lots of man-hours lost. > > Larry > > On Saturday 17 March 2007 09:59:07 pm Arthur Dyck wrote: > > I seem to have lost my user identity and password and su access. Is > > there any way of restoring these? I am using Kubuntu Dapper. > > > > When I try to go into Users and Groups go into Administrator Mode, I get > > "Su returned with an error" > > > > The diagnostics is: > > > > Possible reasons: > > > > An error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned > > control module. > > > > You have old third party modules lying around . > > > > Check these points carefully and try to remove the module mentioned in > > the error message. If this fails, consider contacting your distributor > > or packager." > > > > If need be, can I reinstall Kubuntu while leaving my data files intact? > > I am trying to back them up but K3b has frozen and I can't even get my CD > > drive to open. > > > > Arthur From rbmorse at comcast.net Sun Mar 18 05:06:10 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 23:06:10 -0600 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <200703172306.10718.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:12:44 Denis Gaulin wrote: > My problem is .. I have an EPSON scanner, 4490 perfection 4490 PHOTO that > I use with my Mac IBOOK G4 and I want to switch to these new OS and I do > not know how to install it on these computers because Kubuntu or UBUNTU do > not recognize the scanner. > The Kubuntu Documentation is silent about scanner package.... nothing in > the official Documentation. This is you lucky day. I just bought one of those units and worked out how to get it working on Kubuntu Edgy (also works for Feisty). The usual source for Linux scanner help and support is the SANE project at http://www.sane-project.org/ Unfortunately, the Perfection 4490 Photo is not directly supported by SANE. The good news is that Epkowa, the parent company for Epson in Japan, does provide a Linux driver and a limited control software application for this unit. step 1. From the Ubuntu repositories for your version, Install sane and related packages (libsane, libsane-extras, sane, sane-utils, xsane, xsane-common, quiteinsane) All of these may not be strictly required, but I do not know which ones are and which are not. That is just a list of what I have installed. step 2. Connect and power up the scanner. Wait 60 seconds for the scanner to warm up -- this seems to be important as it won't report it's presence until it is ready. step3. make sure the scanner is detected. In a terminal window run: sane-find-scanner it should report : found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0119 [EPSON Scanner]) at libusb:001:006 or, run (also from a terminal window) scanimage -L and it should report finding an Epson Perfection 4490 flatbed scanner The libsub address will probably be different depending on which port you have connected the scanner. If sane-find-scanner or scanimage -L do not find a scanner at all, stop. You have to solve that problem first. step 4. Get the 4490 linux package from the Epkowa site: http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html Answer their questionnaire. Select Perfection 4490 Photo. I told them I was using Debian and selected "other" in the version dialog. Clicking on the "next" button will take you to a download page step 5. The source code tarball will not build on Edgy or Feisty, so take the two .rpm files (you need both the iScan and the driver package) from the appropriate GCC version section for your distro. For Edgy or Feisty the GCC 3.4 files work. step 6. If you haven't already done so, install alien from repository to convert the .rpm files to .deb. (sudo apt-get install alien). step 7. Convert the .rpm files. In a terminal window change to the directory where the two downloaded driver files are located then: sudo alien iscan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.rpm sudo alien iscan-plugin-gt-x750_1.0.0-1.c2.i386.rpm This should produce the two .deb packages: iscan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.deb iscan-plugin-gt-x750_1.0.0-1.c2.i386.deb Ignore any errors that you may see here. step 8. Install the two .deb packages from a terminal window with dpkg, doing the main iscan package first. sudo dpkg i- scan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.deb sudo dpkg -i iscan-plugin-gt-x750_1.0.0-1c2.i386.deb Step 8a. If the main iscan package will not install cleanly because it reports file conflicts with certain sane-related packages previously installed, just go ahead and force dpkg to overwrite sudo dpkg i- --force-overwrite iscan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.deb The plugin should not have a conflict. This completes the installation. To test things out make sure the scanner is powered up and connected and then type iscan from a terminal, It should start and identify the scanner. Note the 4490 takes awhile to warm up, so don't do thing too quickly and don't be surprised if things just sit there for a few moments before anything starts to happen. Once iscan is installed, the xsane and quiteinsane front-ends also should find and control the scanner. I prefer iScan to quiteinsane, but you can try them all and decide what best meets your needs. Ron Morse From ansari.farid at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 05:52:30 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:52:30 +0500 Subject: No messages In-Reply-To: <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> References: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703172252m109f1c1fme835a339a273b195@mail.gmail.com> *Hi Neil,* *I will forward you a few mails today.* *Farid* On 3/17/07, anthony baldwin wrote: > > Neil Winchurst wrote: > > >I haven't had any emails from the list since the 9th. Can anyone suggest > >why please? > > > >Neil > > > > > > > > > You were voted off the list. > We don´t like you anymore.... > > > (nah...I really don´t know... > I keep getting msgs here.) > > /tony > > -- > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com > http://www.photodharma.com > --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- > Version: 3.1 > GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G > e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ > --------END GEEK CODE---------- > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Mar 18 06:03:09 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:03:09 -0500 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <200703180203.09205.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 17 March 2007 10:12 pm, Denis Gaulin wrote: > newcomers ( people like me who know very little ). The Documentation > should present the names of all the different programs included in an > alphebatical order with a simple description of what they do, serve or > support... Ex. What is Ark ? I do not know. That sounds easier to do than it actually would be. There are hundreds, probably thousands of programs installed out of the box. Most of them should have a description in the help system somewhere, either as KDE help or man pages. ("Man pages" are the old style UNIX help system. "Man" is short for "manual.") If you press F1 from just about anywhere, it should open the KDE Help Center. From there, you can use the left pane of the window to navigate through the help for everything, whether it's a KDE application or not. > For instance I am still not sure of what is the purpose of ALSA what it > does, etc... Nothing is said in the Documentation. Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. You might not need to know anything about ALSA. Most things should work out of the box, unless you have advanced requirements. > Remenber we are newfy! to linux OS You're only a newfy to Linux if you're a newbie who lives in Newfoundland. :) > Anyway After 2 full nights of reading all the definitions of every package > in Adept I found '' libsane'' . I installed the package but nothing > happened for my scanner... Ron posted a recipe for you to follow on this one. Executing his instructions will probably leave you scratching your head, so do feel free to ask for clarification. The situation you face with that scanner is unfortunate. Hardware under Linux is a range from working out of the box effortlessly to no hope of ever getting it to work. Your scanner appears to fall in toward the "no hope" end, but not quite all the way there. You are going to have to learn more than the average newbie just starting out, but at least you know someone before you got the thing to work. That is very helpful. -- D. Michael McIntyre From ian at themagictree.co.uk Sun Mar 18 06:24:01 2007 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:24:01 +0000 Subject: Linux Fileserver In-Reply-To: <45FC73FF.9080309@gatech.edu> References: <45FC35DB.3080402@midmaine.com> <45FC73FF.9080309@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45FCDB01.5080607@themagictree.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Wes Hegge wrote: >> Sure. A file server in Linux is not much different from a desktop, except >> that usually there is no gui loaded. This means you may want to learn the >> command line functions to burn an ISO > > Which are not that hard. Search for cdrecord . However, you *can* run > a file server in addition to a GUI. You'll have a performance loss, but > it's probably doable unless these computers are very old. > > Matt Flaschen > >> On 3/17/07, Harold Hartley wrote: >>> I have plans to convert my old desktop PC's to fileservers and use my >>> laptop as my daily computer on my network. >>> When I setup fileservers on my desktop PC's, will I still be able to >>> burn .ISO images to cd even though I will be running a fileserver on the >>> PC. >>> >>> Harold >>> As an indication, my server box is a (middle-aged!) Athlon 2000+ with 512MB ram - it runs NFS and Samba (Windows) fileservers for all my music and video, a webserver, contains a DVB-T card and functions as our household tv (including recording), runs a mailserver with IMAP, generally has two our three users permanently logged in to standard KDE desktop sessions simultaneously. As a low-priority background job it frequently is re-encoding stored tv programmes to preserve storage space... ...And *still* has no problem playing UT2004 at the same time. With frame rates 5%-10% higher than I ever got with this machines in Windows. I also run a Samba server on my laptop (800Mhz P3 / 386 MB RAM) with KDE, which works at acceptable levels of performance - the fileserver part runs flawlessly, with the GUI being a bit slow, but perfectly usable. There *is* a small performance hit running a GUI on a fileserver, but in my limited experience on a home network, as long as there is a reasonable amount of RAM, the CPU is idle most of the time (unless transcoding video or playing games!), and linux handles complex workloads with competence. In Windows you frequently get the feeling that it just doesn't like doing too many things at once. Linux just doesn't seem to suffer from this to the same extent. It is also possible to run individual graphical programs remotely (say from your laptop) - in which case the GUI is handled by the laptop not the server PC. In your case (depending on hardware, obviously), I would *try* running a GUI, as it increases the ease-of-use for the cd-burning case you mention - even if it is a little too much, you can easily go between GUI and non-GUI levels without difficulty, and on a fileserving PC the extra hard disk space for GUI components wouldn't be noticed. Perhaps if you indicate the processor/RAM on your target PC, people could give an opinion on how suitable it is for the role you are considering. hth Ian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/NsBGqrW91lKBAcRAvbuAKCVn4wVkEzxTRnlc20sXPmMPwU7YwCg2+Wf GHksrDmS4uHTJQkMq3aJVYI= =cIrw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 07:40:37 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:40:37 +0200 Subject: emergency - lost identity In-Reply-To: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> References: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <200703180940.37526.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, I wrote a howto a while ago on the forums, about lost sudo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233502 I hope that helps you some. /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 07:43:43 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:43:43 +0200 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703172306.10718.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703172306.10718.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200703180943.43511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > This is you lucky day. I just bought one of those units and worked out how > to get it working on Kubuntu Edgy (also works for Feisty). Ron, I beg you to please go and post a formal howto on the Ubuntu forums. That way your experience will help thousands (maybe) of others rather than being lost in a mailing list and search results. /d From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 18 07:52:03 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 03:52:03 -0400 Subject: emergency - lost identity In-Reply-To: <200703172305.05945.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> <200703172305.05945.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <45FCEFA3.3010906@gatech.edu> Larry Hartman wrote: > Reloading Kubuntu seems a bit overkill, have you tried restarting in recovery > mode? ...logs in automatically as root. At the prompt you can add your > previous username and assign it to appropriate groups, specifically admin. You can do anything as root. :) The best would just be to change the password of all your users (including root). Matt Flaschen From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Sun Mar 18 08:07:01 2007 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:07:01 +0000 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Message-ID: Denis Gaulin wrote: [...] > I am new to Linux OS and Kubuntu (UBUNTU) and I have to say that know very > little about how to find, install different packages.. Welcome! For interest - what version are you using? [...] > My problem is .. I have an EPSON scanner, 4490 perfection 4490 PHOTO that I > use with my Mac IBOOK G4 and I want to switch to these new OS and I do not > know how to install it on these computers because Kubuntu or UBUNTU do not > recognize the scanner. I note that an answer to the scanner question is elsewhere in this thread. It looks effective, although it may be hard work for an inexperienced newcomer. Take your time, it will likely be possible. Now you have taken an interest in linux you may view new hardware with a different perspective. Some manufacturers of hardware will make your life easier. > The Kubuntu Documentation is silent about scanner package.... nothing in the > official Documentation. > By the way I have one suggestion in order to facilitate usability for > newcomers ( people like me who know very little ). The Documentation should I sympathise, because I still remember when I first used linux (note 1). However, Unlike windows, linux is not centralised, nor funded by a large revenue stream of money. Also there are a huge number of programs out there for use. Different distributions choose differently, and people have their own favourites. In principle you could create one yourself, tomorrow, and publish it on the internet. I find that an internet search such as google (target of web and or groups) will almost always provide answers close to your needs. To get more personal comments and experiences - as you have done - would be to use newsgroups, forums, or email lists. Note 1: I also still remember when I first used windows, and that was not easy either. At least with linux I find I can learn something which is stays useful into the next version. -- ac From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 08:09:39 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (Lantiero Zenesi) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:09:39 +0100 Subject: No messages In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703172252m109f1c1fme835a339a273b195@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FBFE48.30308@holsdevon.eclipse.co.uk> <45FC0766.3020708@optonline.net> <27b81ea70703172252m109f1c1fme835a339a273b195@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703180909.39206.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 18/03/2007 at 06:52, Farid Ansari wrote: > *Hi Neil,* > *I will forward you a few mails today.* > *Farid* It's easy to check on gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.kubuntu -- lanzen From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 08:56:02 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Linux Fileserver In-Reply-To: <368970.66168.qm@web56106.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <980276.52001.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Joseph wrote: If you want to have a GUI access to CD/DVD > burning on that box you can load VNC and run the box > headless (sans monitor) and connect to it over your > internal network. Thank you Joseph. I was trying to find the name of the process you described so I could implement it with my samba server. I knew it could be done, I just didn't know what it is called. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 09:06:52 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 02:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <877605.43411.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- ac wrote: > Denis Gaulin wrote: > > The Kubuntu Documentation is silent about scanner package.... > nothing in the > > official Documentation. > > By the way I have one suggestion in order to facilitate > usability for > > newcomers ( people like me who know very little ). The > Documentation should There are a many books available like "Running Linux", "PC Linux Solutions", and "Ubuntu Hacks" that help me quite a bit getting set up and learning Linux. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 18 09:37:07 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 05:37:07 -0400 Subject: SATA newbie questions In-Reply-To: <200703101459.54962.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703101459.54962.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <45FD0843.6050902@gatech.edu> Kevin Kempter wrote: > Is this an issue with Kubuntu as well? Depends on what SATA driver you have. You'll probably have to try it. > > Also, two more questions: > (1) can someone point me to a link with info on how to install debian packages > by hand ? dpkg -i > (2) can I search on what packages/versions are currently installed (like an > rpm -qa) ? To show all installed packages: dpkg -l If you want to search for particular installed package names, try e.g.: dpkg -l | grep xserver* There should be a better way to do this, but if so I don't know it. Other than that, it depends what you want to do. Matt Flaschen From peterulrich at gmx.net Sun Mar 18 11:02:07 2007 From: peterulrich at gmx.net (Peter Ulrich) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:02:07 +0100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <1174157500.4532.13.camel@abitbw7-raidrjg> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> <45F7E749.7000703@iinet.net.au> <45FAFF30.3000100@gmx.net> <1174157500.4532.13.camel@abitbw7-raidrjg> Message-ID: <45FD1C2F.4020301@gmx.net> Richard Grant wrote: > My memory card reader is the "Sabrent 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Card > Reader/Writer". I'm using the same model on four other computers in my > network with no problems. (A couple of Windows XP computers and one > OpenSUSE 10.2 computer.) The computer where that memory card reader > will not work runs on an Abit BW7-RAID motherboard. Could it be a > compatibility issue with the hardware itself? I.e., the USB may be a > different version? Maybe too old, and the motherboards may need a BIOS > update? > Richard Grant > The computer is a newer one with and AMD64 processor and digicam worked fine until March 10th 2007. There were no hardware changes in the meantime and due to the fact that the camera is detected under Kubuntu and works fine under WindowsXP there doesn't seem to be hardware failures. I tried to start digikam from the console. As user and as root the program startet with the following error messages: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 Major opcode: 145 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device Any hints? TIA Peter -- PGP/GPG: 6144 64D0 B717 D644 CC23 F6EB E419 ADDA 02C2 59BB Key at server or http://www.peterulrich.de/pgp/peterulrich.asc Registered LINUX User: #372502 GoogleEarth: 52 31 16.80 N, 13 21 16.50 E From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 11:25:11 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:25:11 +0200 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <45FD1C2F.4020301@gmx.net> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <1174157500.4532.13.camel@abitbw7-raidrjg> <45FD1C2F.4020301@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200703181325.11531.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 > Major opcode: 145 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device I'm pretty sure that is not related to your camera. It's an error that will appear on the console, no matter what you run. I think it's telling you that an input device in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is being referred-to but is not available. It's most likely the sections to do with the wacom graphics tablet. You can either edit your xorg.conf file (post it and we'll try to help) or just ignore the error. hth /d From haroldh at midmaine.com Sun Mar 18 11:59:07 2007 From: haroldh at midmaine.com (Harold Hartley) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:59:07 -0400 Subject: Linux Fileserver In-Reply-To: <45FC73FF.9080309@gatech.edu> References: <45FC35DB.3080402@midmaine.com> <45FC73FF.9080309@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <45FD298B.4060107@midmaine.com> Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Wes Hegge wrote: >> Sure. A file server in Linux is not much different from a desktop, except >> that usually there is no gui loaded. This means you may want to learn the >> command line functions to burn an ISO > > Which are not that hard. Search for cdrecord . However, you *can* run > a file server in addition to a GUI. You'll have a performance loss, but > it's probably doable unless these computers are very old. > > Matt Flaschen > >> On 3/17/07, Harold Hartley wrote: >>> I have plans to convert my old desktop PC's to fileservers and use my >>> laptop as my daily computer on my network. >>> When I setup fileservers on my desktop PC's, will I still be able to >>> burn .ISO images to cd even though I will be running a fileserver on the >>> PC. >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> > > These two older computers are 550 MHz each with 256 megs ram. Harold From peterulrich at gmx.net Sun Mar 18 12:50:34 2007 From: peterulrich at gmx.net (Peter Ulrich) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:50:34 +0100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <200703181325.11531.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <1174157500.4532.13.camel@abitbw7-raidrjg> <45FD1C2F.4020301@gmx.net> <200703181325.11531.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FD359A.9070101@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Donn wrote: > It's an error that will appear on the console, no matter what you run. I think > it's telling you that an input device in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is > being referred-to but is not available. It's most likely the sections to do > with the wacom graphics tablet. You can either edit your xorg.conf file (post > it and we'll try to help) or just ignore the error. > > hth > /d > Here is my xorg.conf: # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Files" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" # path to defoma fonts FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" EndSection Section "Module" Load "i2c" Load "bitmap" Load "ddc" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "glx" Load "int10" Load "type1" Load "vbe" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "de" Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "stylus" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "stylus" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "eraser" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "eraser" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "cursor" Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to # /dev/input/event # for USB Option "Type" "cursor" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]" Driver "ati" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "YakumoTFT17S" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]" Monitor "YakumoTFT17S" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection TIA Peter - -- PGP/GPG: 6144 64D0 B717 D644 CC23 F6EB E419 ADDA 02C2 59BB Key at server or http://www.peterulrich.de/pgp/peterulrich.asc Registered LINUX User: #372502 GoogleEarth: 52 31 16.80 N, 13 21 16.50 E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/TWa5Bmt2gLCWbsRAp2lAJ44MtYq5BzLXdtbxxiI5SCb2UPpJwCgxff3 CAq58dbV4d3ixaqBZLTEclE= =AiUK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Mar 18 12:56:31 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:56:31 +1100 Subject: SATA newbie questions References: <200703101459.54962.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <45FD0843.6050902@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <87odmqoglc.fsf@rimspace.net> Matthew Flaschen writes: > Kevin Kempter wrote: >>> One issue with running Fedora on my laptop was that I had >>> performance issues with my SATA hard drive. The fix was to add this >>> to the grub kernel line: "combined_mode=libata" >>> >>> However doing this causes issues with mounting my cd's / dvd's and >>> automount stopped working completely. >> >> Is this an issue with Kubuntu as well? > > Depends on what SATA driver you have. You'll probably have to try it. The answer is: the more recent your system the less a problem. You should be able to use Edgy or (in a month) Feisty on that system without the command line argument and without any problems. I am not certain about Dapper but I believe it doesn't have support for ATAPI devices in the kernel. I don't have the relevant hardware to be certain, sorry. >> Also, two more questions: (1) can someone point me to a link with >> info on how to install debian packages by hand ? > > dpkg -i ... but you probably shouldn't be doing so at all. I know that on most RPM based distributions grabbing and installing a random RPM from the Internet is pretty common. Under Debian and Ubuntu that isn't really the case. When you find a third party who you really /need/ packages installed from -- and that shouldn't happen often -- they generally publish a repository that works with apt. So, to do this you normally add the appropriate entries to /etc/apt/sources.list (through your GUI of choice, or by hand) and then install the package just like every other. >> (2) can I search on what packages/versions are currently installed >> (like an rpm -qa) ? > > To show all installed packages: > > dpkg -l > > If you want to search for particular installed package names, try e.g.: > > dpkg -l | grep xserver* ...or, more efficiently, as 'dpkg -l xserver*' Er, quoted if you had any files in the current directory starting with 'xserver' -- passing a glob to dpkg -l is matched as you would expect. See also the manual page for details on how to get a format other than the default for the package list. > There should be a better way to do this, but if so I don't know it. > > Other than that, it depends what you want to do. Nope. Well, not really, anyway. There might be a better solution to the problem that you /think/ the equivalent of 'rpm -qa' is the solution to, but not to the core "list packages" task. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 13:12:05 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:12:05 +0200 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <45FD359A.9070101@gmx.net> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <200703181325.11531.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45FD359A.9070101@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200703181512.05428.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Here is my xorg.conf: Okay, do this: 1. Open a konsole (Alt-F2, konsole), then type these commands: cd /etc/X11 sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.oops sudo kedit xorg.conf (Note: If not kedit then kwrite or kate.) 2. Remove the following sections: > Section "InputDevice" > Driver "wacom" > Identifier "stylus" > Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to > # /dev/input/event > # for USB > Option "Type" "stylus" > Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Driver "wacom" > Identifier "eraser" > Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to > # /dev/input/event > # for USB > Option "Type" "eraser" > Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Driver "wacom" > Identifier "cursor" > Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to > # /dev/input/event > # for USB > Option "Type" "cursor" > Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY > EndSection 3. Save the file; close the editor. 4. Save all other work you are doing, K->Log Out. 5. Restart the session (i.e. just run KDE again, don't restart the whole machine -- there's no need) 6. At the login screen, press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to reboot X. 7. Login and try your camera again -- the error *should* be gone. 8. If all hell breaks loose, then you have a backup of xorg.conf and you can restore the original with: cd /etc/X11 sudo rm xorg.conf sudo mv xorg.conf.oops xorg.conf (Note: You may have to restart the machine at this point.) hth /d From ian at themagictree.co.uk Sun Mar 18 13:49:17 2007 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:49:17 +0000 Subject: Linux Fileserver In-Reply-To: <980276.52001.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <980276.52001.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45FD435D.80404@themagictree.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Earl Violet wrote: > --- Joseph wrote: > > If you want to have a GUI access to CD/DVD >> burning on that box you can load VNC and run the box >> headless (sans monitor) and connect to it over your >> internal network. > > Thank you Joseph. I was trying to find the name of the process you > described so I could implement it with my samba server. I knew it > could be done, I just didn't know what it is called. > > Earl > Or you can log in remotely using ssh with X-forwarding using something like: ssh -XC -l loginname servername then invoke your burning application: k3b That way your server box doesn't have to handle the graphical interface or the vnc server, but only a simple ssh server, which is much easier on resources. Looking at the spec of your proposed server (550 Mhz/256M) it should be possible to run a desktop and then forward it with vnc, but if that doesn't work out, then the above method would offer another, somewhat more lightweight option. Ian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/UNcGqrW91lKBAcRAp5oAKCydMa7oq8hecqzFjg81Rp1nk/r0wCg4VMe YJzo2x8M43kKVUmw900QcZk= =9DLW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From snap.dragon at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Mar 18 14:13:33 2007 From: snap.dragon at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:13:33 +0000 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> <45F7E749.7000703@iinet.net.au> <45FAFF30.3000100@gmx.net> <1174157500.4532.13.camel@abitbw7-raidrjg> <45FD1C2F.4020301@gmx.net> Message-ID: Peter Ulrich wrote: > The computer is a newer one with and AMD64 processor and digicam worked > fine until March 10th 2007. Aptitude 0.4.1: log report Sat, Mar 10 2007 17:57:59 +0000 IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to dpkg problems may not be completed. Will install 4 packages, and remove 0 packages. =============================================================================== [UPGRADE] libgphoto2-2 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy1 -> 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 [UPGRADE] libgphoto2-2-dev 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy1 -> 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 [UPGRADE] libgphoto2-port0 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy1 -> 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 If you have upgraded on March 10th then this is where the 'failed to connect' message comes from. As soon as I reverted back to the old libs everything worked ok. Of course, I'm assuming your system also had an upgrade on the same day. Jim From rbmorse at comcast.net Sun Mar 18 14:19:09 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:19:09 -0600 Subject: SATA newbie questions In-Reply-To: <45FD0843.6050902@gatech.edu> References: <200703101459.54962.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <45FD0843.6050902@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703180819.09614.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Sunday 18 March 2007 03:37:07 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > To show all installed packages: > > dpkg -l Since this is Kubuntu, you have the KDE GUI package manager, Adept, installed. I prefer dpkg because it is a lot faster and more direct, but a+d+e should start Adept. Provide password when prompted, then wait for Adept to load. When it finishes, uncheck the option box toward the top for "not installed." Clicking on any item in the list will produce details. > > If you want to search for particular installed package names, try e.g.: > > dpkg -l | grep xserver* > > There should be a better way to do this, but if so I don't know it. Theres is, if you don't mind the GUI. Open Adept and type the name of the package (or some part of it) in the dialog box. Ron Morse From rbmorse at comcast.net Sun Mar 18 15:03:42 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:03:42 -0600 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <200703180903.42778.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:12:44 Denis Gaulin wrote: > My problem is .. I have an EPSON scanner, 4490 perfection 4490 PHOTO that > I use with my Mac IBOOK G4 and I want to switch to these new OS and I do > not know how to install it on these computers because Kubuntu or UBUNTU do > not recognize the scanner. Denis, and list. Last night (late) I posted a recipe fpr installing this scanner in Kubuntu. I have discovered it contains an error. In the section where I talk about detecting the scanner after it is hooked up: -- ignore any reference to scanimage -L (won't work until after driver is installed) -- sane-find-scanner should detect something at this point, but wont list Epson by name. You should see something like: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x0119) at libusb:005:004 # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. except see the above note about scanimage. I can only claim the hour was late and my brain was full when I sent my original answer to your question. Apologies for any confusion. Ron Morse From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 15:28:54 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:28:54 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703172306.10718.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703172306.10718.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200703181128.54490.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Le 18 mars, 2007 Thank you very much Ron for the solution I will try to do everything step you mention. If I encounter problems I will come back.... Have a good day Denis Gaulin Le Mars 18, 2007 01:06 AM, Ron Morse a écrit : > On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:12:44 Denis Gaulin wrote: > > My problem is .. I have an EPSON scanner, 4490 perfection 4490 PHOTO > > that I use with my Mac IBOOK G4 and I want to switch to these new OS and > > I do not know how to install it on these computers because Kubuntu or > > UBUNTU do not recognize the scanner. > > The Kubuntu Documentation is silent about scanner package.... nothing > > in the official Documentation. > > This is you lucky day. I just bought one of those units and worked out how > to get it working on Kubuntu Edgy (also works for Feisty). > > The usual source for Linux scanner help and support is the SANE project at > > http://www.sane-project.org/ > > Unfortunately, the Perfection 4490 Photo is not directly supported by SANE. > The good news is that Epkowa, the parent company for Epson in Japan, does > provide a Linux driver and a limited control software application for this > unit. > > step 1. From the Ubuntu repositories for your version, Install sane and > related packages (libsane, libsane-extras, sane, sane-utils, xsane, > xsane-common, quiteinsane) All of these may not be strictly required, but I > do not know which ones are and which are not. That is just a list of what I > have installed. > > step 2. Connect and power up the scanner. Wait 60 seconds for the scanner > to warm up -- this seems to be important as it won't report it's presence > until it is ready. > > step3. make sure the scanner is detected. In a terminal window run: > > sane-find-scanner > > it should report : > > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0119 [EPSON > Scanner]) at libusb:001:006 > > or, run (also from a terminal window) > > scanimage -L > > and it should report finding an Epson Perfection 4490 flatbed scanner > > The libsub address will probably be different depending on which port you > have connected the scanner. If sane-find-scanner or scanimage -L do not > find a scanner at all, stop. You have to solve that problem first. > > step 4. Get the 4490 linux package from the Epkowa site: > > http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html > > Answer their questionnaire. Select Perfection 4490 Photo. I told them I was > using Debian and selected "other" in the version dialog. Clicking on > the "next" button will take you to a download page > > step 5. The source code tarball will not build on Edgy or Feisty, so take > the two .rpm files (you need both the iScan and the driver package) from > the appropriate GCC version section for your distro. For Edgy or Feisty the > GCC 3.4 files work. > > step 6. If you haven't already done so, install alien from repository to > convert the .rpm files to .deb. (sudo apt-get install alien). > > step 7. Convert the .rpm files. In a terminal window change to the > directory where the two downloaded driver files are located then: > > sudo alien iscan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.rpm > sudo alien iscan-plugin-gt-x750_1.0.0-1.c2.i386.rpm > > This should produce the two .deb packages: > > iscan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.deb > iscan-plugin-gt-x750_1.0.0-1.c2.i386.deb > > Ignore any errors that you may see here. > > step 8. Install the two .deb packages from a terminal window with dpkg, > doing the main iscan package first. > > sudo dpkg i- scan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.deb > sudo dpkg -i iscan-plugin-gt-x750_1.0.0-1c2.i386.deb > > Step 8a. > > If the main iscan package will not install cleanly because it reports file > conflicts with certain sane-related packages previously installed, just go > ahead and force dpkg to overwrite > > sudo dpkg i- --force-overwrite iscan_2.5.0-0.c2.i386.deb > > The plugin should not have a conflict. > > This completes the installation. To test things out make sure the scanner > is powered up and connected and then type > > iscan > > from a terminal, It should start and identify the scanner. Note the 4490 > takes awhile to warm up, so don't do thing too quickly and don't be > surprised if things just sit there for a few moments before anything starts > to happen. > > Once iscan is installed, the xsane and quiteinsane front-ends also should > find and control the scanner. I prefer iScan to quiteinsane, but you can > try them all and decide what best meets your needs. > > Ron Morse From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 15:33:04 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:33:04 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703180943.43511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703172306.10718.rbmorse@comcast.net> <200703180943.43511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703181133.04162.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Le 18 mars, 2007 I agree 100% with You Donn. As you know the documentation on scanner usage is in its infancy stage... on UBUNTU AND KUBUNTU. That is the way to attarct new user like me. Denis Gaulin Le Mars 18, 2007 03:43 AM, Donn a écrit : > > This is you lucky day. I just bought one of those units and worked out > > how to get it working on Kubuntu Edgy (also works for Feisty). > > Ron, I beg you to please go and post a formal howto on the Ubuntu forums. > That way your experience will help thousands (maybe) of others rather than > being lost in a mailing list and search results. > > > > /d From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 15:41:37 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:41:37 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scannerLe In-Reply-To: <200703180203.09205.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703180203.09205.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703181141.38074.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> le 18 mars, 2007 I thank you very much Michael for the input.... The F1 key I will use from now on to go much faster at getting info. Actually I am a newfy ( in diffent OS system ) from St-Bruno, Québec, Canada stuck in mountaain of snow today.....! Have a good day Denis Gaulin Le Mars 18, 2007 02:03 AM, D. Michael McIntyre a écrit : > On Saturday 17 March 2007 10:12 pm, Denis Gaulin wrote: > > newcomers ( people like me who know very little ). The Documentation > > should present the names of all the different programs included in an > > alphebatical order with a simple description of what they do, serve or > > support... Ex. What is Ark ? I do not know. > > That sounds easier to do than it actually would be. There are hundreds, > probably thousands of programs installed out of the box. Most of them > should have a description in the help system somewhere, either as KDE help > or man pages. ("Man pages" are the old style UNIX help system. "Man" is > short for "manual.") > > If you press F1 from just about anywhere, it should open the KDE Help > Center. From there, you can use the left pane of the window to navigate > through the help for everything, whether it's a KDE application or not. > > > For instance I am still not sure of what is the purpose of ALSA what it > > does, etc... Nothing is said in the Documentation. > > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture. You might not need to know anything > about ALSA. Most things should work out of the box, unless you have > advanced requirements. > > > Remenber we are newfy! to linux OS > > You're only a newfy to Linux if you're a newbie who lives in Newfoundland. > :) > > > Anyway After 2 full nights of reading all the definitions of every > > package in Adept I found '' libsane'' . I installed the package but > > nothing happened for my scanner... > > Ron posted a recipe for you to follow on this one. Executing his > instructions will probably leave you scratching your head, so do feel free > to ask for clarification. > > The situation you face with that scanner is unfortunate. Hardware under > Linux is a range from working out of the box effortlessly to no hope of > ever getting it to work. Your scanner appears to fall in toward the "no > hope" end, but not quite all the way there. You are going to have to learn > more than the average newbie just starting out, but at least you know > someone before you got the thing to work. That is very helpful. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 15:43:36 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:43:36 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scannerLe 18 mars, 2007 In-Reply-To: References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <200703181143.36389.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Le 18 mars, 2007 That is right the version is imporatnt, thanking you for remainding I use 6.06 ( dapper) version. Denis Gaulin Le Mars 18, 2007 04:07 AM, ac a écrit : > Denis Gaulin wrote: > [...] > > > I am new to Linux OS and Kubuntu (UBUNTU) and I have to say that know > > very little about how to find, install different packages.. > > Welcome! > > For interest - what version are you using? > > [...] > > > My problem is .. I have an EPSON scanner, 4490 perfection 4490 PHOTO > > that I use with my Mac IBOOK G4 and I want to switch to these new OS and > > I do not know how to install it on these computers because Kubuntu or > > UBUNTU do not recognize the scanner. > > I note that an answer to the scanner question is elsewhere in this > thread. It looks effective, although it may be hard work for an > inexperienced newcomer. Take your time, it will likely be possible. > > Now you have taken an interest in linux you may view new hardware with > a different perspective. Some manufacturers of hardware will make your > life easier. > > > The Kubuntu Documentation is silent about scanner package.... nothing > > in the official Documentation. > > By the way I have one suggestion in order to facilitate usability for > > newcomers ( people like me who know very little ). The Documentation > > should > > I sympathise, because I still remember when I first used linux (note > 1). However, Unlike windows, linux is not centralised, nor funded by a > large revenue stream of money. Also there are a huge number of > programs out there for use. Different distributions choose > differently, and people have their own favourites. In principle you > could create one yourself, tomorrow, and publish it on the internet. > > I find that an internet search such as google (target of web and or > groups) will almost always provide answers close to your needs. To get > more personal comments and experiences - as you have done - would be > to use newsgroups, forums, or email lists. > > Note 1: > I also still remember when I first used windows, and that was not easy > either. > At least with linux I find I can learn something which is stays useful > into the next version. > -- > ac From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 15:48:20 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:48:20 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <877605.43411.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <877605.43411.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703181148.20761.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Le 18 mars, 2007 hanks Earl or the input I will get to these books specially '' UBUNTU HACKS'' because I may learn faster the esentials to this OS. Have a good day and thank you for the prompt answer Denis Gaulin Le Mars 18, 2007 05:06 AM, Earl Violet a écrit : > --- ac wrote: > > Denis Gaulin wrote: > > > The Kubuntu Documentation is silent about scanner package.... > > > > nothing in the > > > > > official Documentation. > > > By the way I have one suggestion in order to facilitate > > > > usability for > > > > > newcomers ( people like me who know very little ). The > > > > Documentation should > > There are a many books available like "Running Linux", "PC Linux > Solutions", and "Ubuntu Hacks" that help me quite a bit getting set > up and learning Linux. > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 17:22:05 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Group courtesy Message-ID: <637701.33606.qm@web39612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Before I started with Kubuntu and this group, I subscribed a few other groups. I'm VERY pleased with the level of courtesy and patience of this group and the Debian Sparc group. No flaming or discourtesy to speak of. (sometimes THERE IS a need for a 2x4) I don't see Kubuntu as extremely superior technically to other distros I've tried. My recommendation is based on the newbie joining this group. People, especially newbies, get very discouraged and often quit Linux because of flaming over a simple question that, to them, isn't that simple. Keep it up, all. This is what makes Kubuntu/Ubuntu great. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 From peterulrich at gmx.net Sun Mar 18 17:34:18 2007 From: peterulrich at gmx.net (Peter Ulrich) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:34:18 +0100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <200703181512.05428.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <200703181325.11531.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45FD359A.9070101@gmx.net> <200703181512.05428.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FD781A.9060209@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Donn wrote: > 8. If all hell breaks loose, then you have a backup of xorg.conf and you can > restore the original with: > cd /etc/X11 > sudo rm xorg.conf > sudo mv xorg.conf.oops xorg.conf > (Note: You may have to restart the machine at this point.) > All hell broke loose and I had to use the backup of xorg.conf to start X again. Then I tried to change from the "wacom"-entries to "input/event". Result was the same: Failed to list files in camera. I suspect the failure in the upgrade to libgphoto2....~edgy1 to ~edgy2 as Jim MacLeod mentioned. How can I downgrade to the old packages? TIA Peter - -- PGP/GPG: 6144 64D0 B717 D644 CC23 F6EB E419 ADDA 02C2 59BB Key at server or http://www.peterulrich.de/pgp/peterulrich.asc Registered LINUX User: #372502 GoogleEarth: 52 31 16.80 N, 13 21 16.50 E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/Xga5Bmt2gLCWbsRAmSNAKDN5KKPvwAXANslb/50kGxFSG9e6ACgm0GG UXVFF9IPe6RC22r8t1nwDLU= =mRxY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ansari.farid at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 17:40:12 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:40:12 +0500 Subject: Group courtesy In-Reply-To: <637701.33606.qm@web39612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <637701.33606.qm@web39612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703181040l7f70d700kfd22fb813bdf3a07@mail.gmail.com> *Hi Earl Violet,* *When you say Kubuntu is not technically compared to other OSes, which ones are you referring to specifically. Take into consideration the fact that Kubuntu is free and then compare.* *I have Win XP Pro and SuSE 10.2 but I still find Kubuntu better for all multimedia applications.* *Just cannot wait till April when the Kubuntu 7.04 is finally released.* *Regards,* ** *Farid* *Karachi, Pakistan* On 3/18/07, Earl Violet wrote: > > Before I started with Kubuntu and this group, I subscribed a few > other groups. I'm VERY pleased with the level of courtesy and > patience of this group and the Debian Sparc group. No flaming or > discourtesy to speak of. (sometimes THERE IS a need for a 2x4) > > I don't see Kubuntu as extremely superior technically to other > distros I've tried. My recommendation is based on the newbie joining > this group. People, especially newbies, get very discouraged and > often quit Linux because of flaming over a simple question that, to > them, isn't that simple. > > Keep it up, all. This is what makes Kubuntu/Ubuntu great. > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate > in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Sun Mar 18 18:16:19 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:16:19 -0400 Subject: Group courtesy In-Reply-To: <637701.33606.qm@web39612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <637701.33606.qm@web39612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45FD81F3.6080304@optonline.net> Earl Violet wrote: >Before I started with Kubuntu and this group, I subscribed a few >other groups. I'm VERY pleased with the level of courtesy and >patience of this group and the Debian Sparc group. No flaming or >discourtesy to speak of. (sometimes THERE IS a need for a 2x4) > >I don't see Kubuntu as extremely superior technically to other >distros I've tried. My recommendation is based on the newbie joining >this group. People, especially newbies, get very discouraged and >often quit Linux because of flaming over a simple question that, to >them, isn't that simple. > >Keep it up, all. This is what makes Kubuntu/Ubuntu great. > > Are you trying to start something? Who asked for your opinion?! This is comlete OT and has no place on this list! What, are you a troll or something? Why don´t you check the archives or RTFM! ...err, rather, I have to agree, being relatively knew to Kubu, coming from another distro, that this group is quite user/newbie-friendly, and, above all, seems to have a great sense of humor. /tony >Earl > >URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net >Instant messenger: earlcoyote >ICQ:64033496 > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate >in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. >http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 > > > -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 18 18:44:29 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:44:29 -0400 Subject: SATA newbie questions In-Reply-To: <200703180819.09614.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703101459.54962.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <45FD0843.6050902@gatech.edu> <200703180819.09614.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45FD888D.3000601@gatech.edu> Ron Morse wrote: > Theres is, if you don't mind the GUI. Open Adept and type the name of the > package (or some part of it) in the dialog box. Right. I use Adept all the time, but it's slower and he asked for the equivalent to a command-line app. Matt Flaschen From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 19:09:35 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:09:35 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703180903.42778.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703180903.42778.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200703181509.35341.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Lot of thanks.. I will follow this way and see the outcome tomorrow... I have to get out today Denis Gaulin Le Mars 18, 2007 11:03 AM, Ron Morse a écrit : > On Saturday 17 March 2007 20:12:44 Denis Gaulin wrote: > > My problem is .. I have an EPSON scanner, 4490 perfection 4490 PHOTO > > that I use with my Mac IBOOK G4 and I want to switch to these new OS and > > I do not know how to install it on these computers because Kubuntu or > > UBUNTU do not recognize the scanner. > > Denis, and list. > > Last night (late) I posted a recipe fpr installing this scanner in Kubuntu. > I have discovered it contains an error. In the section where I talk about > detecting the scanner after it is hooked up: > > -- ignore any reference to scanimage -L (won't work until after driver is > installed) > > -- sane-find-scanner should detect something at this point, but wont list > Epson by name. You should see something like: > > > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x0119) at libusb:005:004 > # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be > supported by > # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage. > > except see the above note about scanimage. > > I can only claim the hour was late and my brain was full when I sent my > original answer to your question. Apologies for any confusion. > > Ron Morse From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Sun Mar 18 19:28:35 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:28:35 -0600 Subject: latest /upgraded KDE version with Dapper (6.06) Message-ID: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 but I want the more recent version of KDE utilities like kopete - like those in Edgy eft. Can I add a repository to apt or adept and get these ? From philbieber at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 19:37:54 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:37:54 +0100 Subject: latest /upgraded KDE version with Dapper (6.06) In-Reply-To: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703181237t368982cfyc6a96813e426a598@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Not sure whether it is the version from feisty, but deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main provides you with the most up-to-date versions of KDE. I have been using it myself under edgy, and IIRC now under feisty, too. Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Mar 18 20:23:43 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:23:43 -0500 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703180943.43511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703172306.10718.rbmorse@comcast.net> <200703180943.43511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703181623.43601.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 18 March 2007 3:43 am, Donn wrote: > Ron, I beg you to please go and post a formal howto on the Ubuntu forums. > That way your experience will help thousands (maybe) of others rather than > being lost in a mailing list and search results. This gets back to something I was reading on /. the other day. If you recommend Windows, and something goes wrong, it's Microsoft's fault. If you recommend Linux, and something goes wrong, it's all your fault. In that light, I'm loathe to go out on a limb and try to write a mini HOWTO about how to get hardware like this working. I had a piece of hardware similar to Ron's, complete with an RPM driver that had to be converted with alien. I tried to do my part for king and country (or something, uh, we don't have a king in this country, unless it's Bill Gates), and what I got was years of people bugging me with questions about that stupid piece of hardware that I only managed to keep working for a few weeks, before the whole delicate house of cards came tumbling down. I wound up taking a sledge hammer to that stupid printer. I'm not saying Ron shouldn't do whatever he sees fit. I'm just thinking about why I no longer try to save the world in that fashion. It's a good thing for Linuxdom that not everybody around here is as bitter and jaded as I am. :) -- D. Michael McIntyre From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 20:29:53 2007 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:29:53 -0400 Subject: DBMS's Message-ID: <200703181629.53405.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> What a headache I got into with what I thought was a pretty simple installation of a relational database: in this case sr19 from USDA with a thorough documentation and clear layout of the tables. Piece of cake. Since MySQL was on my system and I was using it for some flat-file storage of personal information it was my first choice. After banging my head for three days I could not get MySQL to join two tables properly (it misses every other row on the second table). Now I am in a quandry. Spend time on some MySQL group trying to resolve this issue which may be due to some arcane ISAM file handling problem or try another DBMS. I figured the latter my take less time. So I decided to try the DBMS in the OpenOffice package. Ugh, it continually hung up and goes into hyperspace. Never got to loading data nor resolving join problems. Next, I saw HSQL and tried that. Slow to get anywhere and could not find much documentation nor indication that anyone was using it on the net. Lastly, I decided to install Postgresql. The list of software for this system is mindboggling and seemingly impossible to figure which files one needs to install. At the moment, postmaster seems to be running BUT I can't find the 'initdb' (other than a copy in cygwin/bin ---not linux). And I am still in the "setup" phase, thrashing around. Interestingly, the man file for initdb is installed but where is the f_____g program? My question is: is it better to try and resolve the MySQL join problem or find some instructions/procedures to complete the Postgresql installation? Sorry for the verbosity but I am venting. Thanks for any suggestions. -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 18 20:31:31 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:31:31 -0400 Subject: emergency - lost identity In-Reply-To: <200703180940.37526.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703171959.07877.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> <200703180940.37526.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703181631.31792.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> On Sunday 18 March 2007 03:40:37 am Donn wrote: > Hi, > I wrote a howto a while ago on the forums, about lost sudo: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233502 > > I hope that helps you some. > /d Yeah, I think I stumbled onto that particular post and used it when I accidentally eradicated admin privilege's from my only user account. From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 18 21:22:26 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:22:26 -0400 Subject: /etc/apt/sources.list Message-ID: <200703181722.26508.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> I keep on getting errors on edgy-backports universe during Adept updates....is this a valid repository? From macariov at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 21:30:55 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:30:55 -0400 Subject: latest /upgraded KDE version with Dapper (6.06) In-Reply-To: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <1174253455.5470.0.camel@macvalle> Go to: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ Choose all the extra source and see what wonderss you can install. Happy hunting! On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 13:28 -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote: > I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 but I want the more recent version of KDE utilities > like kopete - like those in Edgy eft. Can I add a repository to apt or adept > and get these ? > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hobbsee at kubuntu.org Sun Mar 18 21:35:23 2007 From: hobbsee at kubuntu.org (Sarah Hobbs) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:35:23 +1100 Subject: latest /upgraded KDE version with Dapper (6.06) In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703181237t368982cfyc6a96813e426a598@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <3b27fa9d0703181237t368982cfyc6a96813e426a598@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FDB09B.1010208@kubuntu.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you use edgy repos with dapper, it will usually break. If you want the later versions of apps, then you really need to update to the latest stable, ie, edgy (and soon feisty) Phil, your using the kde-latest for edgy under feisty wont do much, as the feisty versions are higher anyway, iirc, so it's a useless repo, which may break your system if anything weird is in it. Hobbsee Phil Bieber wrote: > Hi! > Not sure whether it is the version from feisty, but > > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main > > provides you with the most up-to-date versions of KDE. > I have been using it myself under edgy, and IIRC now under feisty, too. > Cheers > Philipp Bieber > -- > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > -- Buck Henry > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/bCb7/o1b30rzoURAgcnAKDJwcV483Y8klw5tZ5r5Y6SD0d8RQCgyvNS GfT/hGEpmHmPTPiuyqqxZGQ= =DXo4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Mar 18 23:10:05 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:10:05 +0000 Subject: /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <200703181722.26508.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703181722.26508.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <45FDC6CD.2070001@blueyonder.co.uk> Larry Hartman wrote: > I keep on getting errors on edgy-backports universe during Adept updates....is > this a valid repository? > > > It's a valid repository, it would help if you posted the errors you're getting so we could determine the problem you're having. Tez From k7qo at commspeed.net Sun Mar 18 23:18:54 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:18:54 -0700 Subject: evolution and sound support Message-ID: <1174259934.5975.3.camel@kubuntu7.04> Don't know if this is a bug, a feature, or user error. sudo apt-get install evolution Upon starting: adams at kubuntu7:~$ evolution & [1] 5751 adams at kubuntu7:~$ CalDAV Eplugin starting up ... X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167 Major opcode: 145 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167 Major opcode: 145 Minor opcode: 3 Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found User needs to do: sudo apt-get install esound in order to get /usr/bin/esd. Should esound be known as a dependency for evolution and installed at the same time if not already present? Inquiring minds want to know. The X-Window error message I haven't looked at yet. FYI Chuck Adams, k7qo at commspeed.net From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 18 23:32:43 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:32:43 -0400 Subject: /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <45FDC6CD.2070001@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200703181722.26508.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <45FDC6CD.2070001@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <200703181932.43416.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Well that is just it, Adept doesn't show me the actual error. However I ran sudo apt-get update and get these results: Get:1 http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release.gpg [189B] Get:2 http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial/main Translation-en_US Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Translation-en_US Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US Get:5 http://kubuntu.org edgy Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Translation-en_US Hit http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial Release Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/multiverse Translation-en_US Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US Hit http://kubuntu.org edgy Release Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/universe Translation-en_US Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Translation-en_US Hit http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial/main Packages Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Packages Hit http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/multiverse Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/multiverse Sources Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Translation-en_US Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/multiverse Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/universe Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/multiverse Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/universe Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Sources Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Translation-en_US Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Sources Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Sources Get:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages [28.4kB] 99% [8 Packages gzip 0] [Waiting for headers] gzip: stdin: not in gzip format Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Translation-en_US Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Packages Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Packages Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Sources Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Sources Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Packages Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Packages 99% [Waiting for headers] 35.2Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Sources Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Sources Fetched 8B in 9s (1B/s) Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) Reading package lists... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. I gather from the above that I am missing some key files? Here is my current repository list from /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates restricted main multiverse universe deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates restricted main multiverse universe deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse universe deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse universe deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security restricted main multiverse universe deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security restricted main multiverse universe deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main On Sunday 18 March 2007 07:10:05 pm Tez wrote: > Larry Hartman wrote: > > I keep on getting errors on edgy-backports universe during Adept > > updates....is this a valid repository? > > It's a valid repository, it would help if you posted the errors you're > getting so we could determine the problem you're having. > > Tez From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Mar 18 23:48:02 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:48:02 +1100 Subject: DBMS's References: <200703181629.53405.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87ps76m7v1.fsf@rimspace.net> "Gerald I. Evenden" writes: > What a headache I got into with what I thought was a pretty simple > installation of a relational database: in this case sr19 from USDA > with a thorough documentation and clear layout of the tables. Piece of > cake. > > Since MySQL was on my system and I was using it for some flat-file > storage of personal information it was my first choice. > > After banging my head for three days I could not get MySQL to join two > tables properly (it misses every other row on the second table). Ah, MySQL. My favorite database. ;) [...] > Lastly, I decided to install Postgresql. The list of software for this > system is mindboggling and seemingly impossible to figure which files > one needs to install. You can generally use the 'recommends' and 'suggests' of a package as a good guide there. > At the moment, postmaster seems to be running BUT I can't find the > 'initdb' (other than a copy in cygwin/bin ---not linux). And I am > still in the "setup" phase, thrashing around. Interestingly, the man > file for initdb is installed but where is the f_____g program? ...I don't think you really want to do that. Ubuntu packages generally go out of their way to "just work" out of the box. In this case that means that they created the default database cluster for you when installed. You should be able to simply create PostgreSQL users, databases and run from there -- nothing more to do. No need to create your own cluster or anything exciting like that. > My question is: is it better to try and resolve the MySQL join problem > or find some instructions/procedures to complete the Postgresql > installation? Well, did you look at the documentation that ships with the PostgreSQL package? Take a look at the 'README.Debian' in /usr/share/doc/postgresql-7.2 (or whatever version you installed). As a general rule of thumb you will find relevant information in the Debian distribution README file in the package documentation. That has a "quick start" guide for the impatient as well as pointers to the appropriate documentation, etc. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Mar 18 23:40:27 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:40:27 +1100 Subject: Group courtesy References: <637701.33606.qm@web39612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <27b81ea70703181040l7f70d700kfd22fb813bdf3a07@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87y7lum87o.fsf@rimspace.net> "Farid Ansari" writes: > When you say Kubuntu is not technically compared to other OSes, I think you missed the point: he doesn't believe KUbuntu is technically *superior* to other *Linux distributions* *in his experience.* All of which are reasonable statements and which, today, I would generally agree with.[1] > which ones are you referring to specifically. Take into consideration > the fact that Kubuntu is free and then compare. I have Win XP Pro and > SuSE 10.2 but I still find Kubuntu better for all multimedia > applications. A comparison of Windows with Ubuntu is definitely missing the point of this statement -- which was simply a statement of opinion. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Ubuntu have points where they beat the competition, the competition have points where they beat Ubuntu. Overall it seems to come out about even ... though I do use Ubuntu. ;) -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Mar 18 23:42:46 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:42:46 +1100 Subject: latest /upgraded KDE version with Dapper (6.06) References: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <87tzwim83t.fsf@rimspace.net> Kevin Kempter writes: > I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 but I want the more recent version of KDE > utilities like kopete - like those in Edgy eft. Can I add a repository > to apt or adept and get these ? Are you sure you want that and not, say, simply upgrading to Edgy? If you upgrade you have committed to another upgrade within a year[1] but, really, if you want the newer versions of software then that commitment probably isn't a huge problem. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Technically 18 months from the release of Edgy, but that is about five and a half months back now. ;) -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Mar 19 01:12:27 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:12:27 -0400 Subject: latest /upgraded KDE version with Dapper (6.06) In-Reply-To: <87tzwim83t.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <200703181328.35508.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <87tzwim83t.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <45FDE37B.2080701@gatech.edu> Daniel Pittman wrote: > Kevin Kempter writes: > >> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 but I want the more recent version of KDE >> utilities like kopete - like those in Edgy eft. Can I add a repository >> to apt or adept and get these ? > > Are you sure you want that and not, say, simply upgrading to Edgy? > > If you upgrade you have committed to another upgrade within a year[1] > but, really, if you want the newer versions of software then that > commitment probably isn't a huge problem. Or just upgrade to Feisty. It's supposedly pretty stable (not tested by me!) and will be released in a month. Matt Flaschen From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Mar 19 01:35:59 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:35:59 -0400 Subject: evolution and sound support In-Reply-To: <1174259934.5975.3.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1174259934.5975.3.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <45FDE8FF.8000803@gatech.edu> adams wrote: > Don't know if this is a bug, a feature, or user error. > > sudo apt-get install evolution > > > Upon starting: > > adams at kubuntu7:~$ evolution & > [1] 5751 > adams at kubuntu7:~$ CalDAV Eplugin starting up ... > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167 > Major opcode: 145 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167 > Major opcode: 145 > Minor opcode: 3 > Resource id: 0x0 > Failed to open device > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found > > > User needs to do: > > sudo apt-get install esound > > in order to get /usr/bin/esd. Should esound be known as > a dependency for evolution and installed at the same time > if not already present? It's a dependency of ubuntu-desktop, which GNOME (and thus almost all Evolution) users should have. It probably should be a dependency of Evolution. You can file a bug on launchpad. > Inquiring minds want to know. > > The X-Window error message I haven't looked at yet. I wouldn't worry about that. Many/most X apps have such errors. People don't run GUI apps from the command-line often, and remain blissfully ignorant. Matthew Flaschen From ejviolet at yahoo.com Mon Mar 19 02:40:31 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Group courtesy In-Reply-To: <87y7lum87o.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <310744.10112.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Apparently I didn't get a few of the messages. > "Farid Ansari" writes: > > > When you say Kubuntu is not technically compared to other OSes, What I meant was that, although Kubuntu may or may not be the best distribution compared to others, his group makes it the top one. Did I get flamed for trying to make a complement? :S Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From dgalea at unimelb.edu.au Mon Mar 19 02:25:56 2007 From: dgalea at unimelb.edu.au (David William Galea) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:25:56 +1100 Subject: Kubuntu 3D Graphics Card Choice Message-ID: <73F5140BC7AAE8418DAABF0336FF9DBD920465@IS-EX-VS1.unimelb.edu.au> I am running Kubuntu Edgy and would like to upgrade my graphics card to a 3D one for games and higher graphics FPS. Any recommendations on Linux drivers for any type of these? David Galea -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sun Mar 18 21:45:17 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:45:17 -0400 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703181623.43601.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703180943.43511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703181623.43601.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703181745.17710.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> Le 18 mars, 07 Michael I appreciate your experience and comments however I do not share your opinion. Teaching to others how to do things is part of our world... nobody is eternal. I have come to realize this when I experience the death of my brother who was very successful in stock investment but never shared any of its with us... He died at 65, alone, with a bank account full but with nobody to visit him... and a post-mortem fight to separate his money.., The lawers will end up with the biggest chunk! Denis Gaulin Le Mars 18, 2007 04:23 PM, D. Michael McIntyre a écrit : > On Sunday 18 March 2007 3:43 am, Donn wrote: > > Ron, I beg you to please go and post a formal howto on the Ubuntu forums. > > That way your experience will help thousands (maybe) of others rather > > than being lost in a mailing list and search results. > > This gets back to something I was reading on /. the other day. If you > recommend Windows, and something goes wrong, it's Microsoft's fault. If > you recommend Linux, and something goes wrong, it's all your fault. > > In that light, I'm loathe to go out on a limb and try to write a mini HOWTO > about how to get hardware like this working. I had a piece of hardware > similar to Ron's, complete with an RPM driver that had to be converted with > alien. I tried to do my part for king and country (or something, uh, we > don't have a king in this country, unless it's Bill Gates), and what I got > was years of people bugging me with questions about that stupid piece of > hardware that I only managed to keep working for a few weeks, before the > whole delicate house of cards came tumbling down. > > I wound up taking a sledge hammer to that stupid printer. > > I'm not saying Ron shouldn't do whatever he sees fit. I'm just thinking > about why I no longer try to save the world in that fashion. It's a good > thing for Linuxdom that not everybody around here is as bitter and jaded as > I am. :) -- > D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 06:57:33 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:57:33 +0200 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <45FD781A.9060209@gmx.net> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <200703181512.05428.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45FD781A.9060209@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200703190857.33762.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > All hell broke loose and I had to use the backup of xorg.conf to start X > again. Sorry about that. It seems strange that X would not run when those entries were removed as they were not exactly vital or anything. Then again, I am from the "hack it and see" school not the "I grok the details" one. > Then I tried to change from the "wacom"-entries to "input/event". Result > was the same: Failed to list files in camera. My hair rustles faintly in the breeze as this issue streaks over my head :) > I suspect the failure in the upgrade to libgphoto2....~edgy1 to ~edgy2 > as Jim MacLeod mentioned. How can I downgrade to the old packages? Here I can give a theory lesson, but have no practical examples: How to downgrade stuff: 1. is too high a version number. 2. apt-cache showpkg Look for the version number in the Versions section at the top. Find an older one. OR Find the version number in some other way 3. sudo aptitude install = version_number That's the magic line, the equals sign is the trick. hth /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 07:19:30 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:19:30 +0200 Subject: EPSON prefection 4490 photo scanner In-Reply-To: <200703181623.43601.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200703172212.45493.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> <200703180943.43511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703181623.43601.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703190919.30188.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > This gets back to something I was reading on /. the other day. If you > recommend Windows, and something goes wrong, it's Microsoft's fault. If > you recommend Linux, and something goes wrong, it's all your fault. I think this is a subtle yet large slice of the reason why commercial software is so prevalent. Blame is big business. > and what I got > was years of people bugging me with questions about that stupid piece of > hardware that I only managed to keep working for a few weeks, before the > whole delicate house of cards came tumbling down. You write a howto on the Ubu forums and you don't include your email. You also write a disclaimer like "If this does not work for you, tough", and then you go about your business... those are not the droids you are looking for :) > I wound up taking a sledge hammer to that stupid printer. Oh the pure ecstasy of hardware revenge. I had that moment with a Canon printer years ago. I still think on it fondly. > It's a good > thing for Linuxdom that not everybody around here is as bitter and jaded as > I am. :) -- Michael -- you keep saying how jaded you are, one of these days I'm gonna call the Chinese and say you're pinching all their jade! I reckon you ain't as all that since you post and help out here all the time. Secretly you're a good-guy and you like to help others! /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 07:21:39 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:21:39 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 3D Graphics Card Choice In-Reply-To: <73F5140BC7AAE8418DAABF0336FF9DBD920465@IS-EX-VS1.unimelb.edu.au> References: <73F5140BC7AAE8418DAABF0336FF9DBD920465@IS-EX-VS1.unimelb.edu.au> Message-ID: <200703190921.39524.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Any recommendations on Linux drivers for any type of these? AFAIK there are no real open 3D drivers. I *think* Intel has one, but I hear their 3D chips are not so good. Overall I think nvidia's closed driver is the one that will give you the least amount of hassle. This doesn't mean you will never start to use four-letter words when your kernel upgrades and your driver stops working, but you won't suffer as much as with ATi. /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 07:26:26 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:26:26 +0200 Subject: evolution and sound support In-Reply-To: <1174259934.5975.3.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1174259934.5975.3.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <200703190926.26913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > sudo apt-get install esound No way to set evolution to use alsa (or arts)? Surely there must be something in the settings. /d From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Mon Mar 19 08:34:41 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 04:34:41 -0400 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <200703190857.33762.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <200703181512.05428.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45FD781A.9060209@gmx.net> <200703190857.33762.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174293281.15714.1180144655@webmail.messagingengine.com> I have followed the said procedure (because I wished to do something for removing errors opening devices (168?) with strange major, minor values. And for me too I had a problem after Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, rebooting X. I have found, looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log that: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf Undefined InputDevice "stylus" referenced by ServerLayout "Default Layo$ (EE) Problem parsing the config file Rereading the xorg.conf file, I then realised that in: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" EndSection The following lines had to be removed, now that I had remove corresponding InputDevice sections: InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:57:33 +0200, "Donn" said: > > All hell broke loose and I had to use the backup of xorg.conf to start X > > again. > Sorry about that. It seems strange that X would not run when those > entries > were removed as they were not exactly vital or anything. Then again, I am > from the "hack it and see" school not the "I grok the details" one. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Mon Mar 19 09:08:55 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:08:55 -0400 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: <1174293281.15714.1180144655@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <200703181512.05428.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <45FD781A.9060209@gmx.net> <200703190857.33762.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1174293281.15714.1180144655@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1174295335.20517.1180148673@webmail.messagingengine.com> This is bug #42553 : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/42553 with a clean and simple workaround. But I guess it had nothing to do with the /camera files. On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 04:34:41 -0400, "Paul Dufresne" said: > I have followed the said procedure (because I wished to do something for > removing errors opening devices (168?) with strange major, minor values. > And for me too I had a problem after Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, rebooting X. > I have found, looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log that: > Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf > Undefined InputDevice "stylus" referenced by ServerLayout > "Default Layo$ > (EE) Problem parsing the config file > > Rereading the xorg.conf file, I then realised that in: > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Default Layout" > Screen "Default Screen" > InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" > InputDevice "Configured Mouse" > InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" > InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" > InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" > EndSection > > The following lines had to be removed, now that I had remove > corresponding InputDevice sections: > InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" > InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" > InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:57:33 +0200, "Donn" said: > > > All hell broke loose and I had to use the backup of xorg.conf to start X > > > again. > > Sorry about that. It seems strange that X would not run when those > > entries > > were removed as they were not exactly vital or anything. Then again, I am > > from the "hack it and see" school not the "I grok the details" one. > -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 19 09:49:54 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:49:54 -0400 Subject: Group courtesy In-Reply-To: <310744.10112.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <310744.10112.qm@web39602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703190549.54190.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> My limited experience includes a tiny bit of Kubuntu Dapper and Edgy, some SUN Solaris, and years of Windows. I am trying real hard to make my Windows experience irrelevant. Whether Kubuntu is better than other distros, I can not say. Whether this group is better than others I can not say. Before I move to another distro, I want to have significant experience in this one, so my likelihood of moving is very low. The friendliness and availability of help strongly influences that decision. So, in the end, you didn't get flamed by me. I am reading this back to myself and thinking that I sound almost like Andy Rooney. Larry On Sunday 18 March 2007 10:40:31 pm Earl Violet wrote: > Apparently I didn't get a few of the messages. > > > "Farid Ansari" writes: > > > When you say Kubuntu is not technically compared to other OSes, > > What I meant was that, although Kubuntu may or may not be the best > distribution compared to others, his group makes it the top one. Did > I get flamed for trying to make a complement? :S > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru Mon Mar 19 11:13:32 2007 From: smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:13:32 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu distribution packages Message-ID: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> Hello all, May be i missed something, but i have a question - why Kubuntu distribution is so small? One DVD is not big enough to include all tasty packages. I was very disappointed when find out what Eclipse is not a part of distribution. Even Fedora Core5 has it :( Why so? Thank you, Alex From peterulrich at gmx.net Mon Mar 19 11:18:08 2007 From: peterulrich at gmx.net (Peter Ulrich) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:18:08 +0100 Subject: Failed to list files in /camera In-Reply-To: References: <45F69F49.60609@gmx.net> <45F7E2A0.1000104@gmx.net> Message-ID: <45FE7170.1070709@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jim MacLeod wrote: > > Will install 3 packages, and remove 1 packages. > 410kB of disk space will be freed > =============================================================================== > [REMOVE, NOT USED] libusb-dev > [DOWNGRADE] libgphoto2-2 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 -> 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 > [DOWNGRADE] libgphoto2-2-dev 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 -> 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 > [DOWNGRADE] libgphoto2-port0 2.3.0-0ubuntu3~edgy2 -> 2.2.1-2ubuntu4 > I'mnow sure that that's the reason for the malfunction. After an backup of my important files I downloaded a new dvd-iso from kubuntu.org. I reinstalled the complete system and tested Digikam. It worked fine, imported the pics from my camera. Ater upgrading the 123 recommanded packages Digikam still worked but again without the ability to load the pics from my camera. I installed once more the whole system and are now searching for the packages with the faulty libraries for excluding them from upgrading. Peter - -- PGP/GPG: 6144 64D0 B717 D644 CC23 F6EB E419 ADDA 02C2 59BB Key at server or http://www.peterulrich.de/pgp/peterulrich.asc Registered LINUX User: #372502 GoogleEarth: 52 31 16.80 N, 13 21 16.50 E -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF/nFv5Bmt2gLCWbsRAihMAKDphqlnbqDwjBfJlB2vaFYgE87czACg69Nu GZpO21/c0h1ReLhHKfELUXk= =ncVW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jriddell at ubuntu.com Mon Mar 19 11:26:12 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:26:12 +0000 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> Message-ID: <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 02:13:32PM +0300, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > May be i missed something, but i have a question - why Kubuntu > distribution is so small? One DVD is not big enough to include all tasty > packages. I was very disappointed when find out what Eclipse is not a > part of distribution. Even Fedora Core5 has it :( Our DVD fills up the maximum space available on a single layer DVD. Eclipse won't be on because it's in universe and not supported. Jonathan From smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru Mon Mar 19 11:41:31 2007 From: smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:41:31 +0300 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 02:13:32PM +0300, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > >> May be i missed something, but i have a question - why Kubuntu >> distribution is so small? One DVD is not big enough to include all tasty >> packages. I was very disappointed when find out what Eclipse is not a >> part of distribution. Even Fedora Core5 has it :( >> > > Our DVD fills up the maximum space available on a single layer DVD. > Eclipse won't be on because it's in universe and not supported. > > Jonathan > > thanks for prompt reply :-) From ansari.farid at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 13:21:35 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:21:35 +0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> Will it be possible to Upgrade the Kubuntu 6.10 when the new version is released or will a fresh Install be required for 7.04. Please someone advise. Thanks & Regards On 3/19/07, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 02:13:32PM +0300, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > > >> May be i missed something, but i have a question - why Kubuntu > >> distribution is so small? One DVD is not big enough to include all > tasty > >> packages. I was very disappointed when find out what Eclipse is not a > >> part of distribution. Even Fedora Core5 has it :( > >> > > > > Our DVD fills up the maximum space available on a single layer DVD. > > Eclipse won't be on because it's in universe and not supported. > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > thanks for prompt reply :-) > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jriddell at ubuntu.com Mon Mar 19 13:36:10 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:36:10 +0000 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:21:35PM +0500, Farid Ansari wrote: > > Will it be possible to Upgrade the Kubuntu 6.10 when the new version > is released or will a fresh Install be required for 7.04. Yes it's possible to upgrade. We badly need testers for the dist upgrade tool. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade Jonathan From ansari.farid at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:26:53 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:26:53 +0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703190726l56a1e205o9aaa6df51689be6@mail.gmail.com> **Thank you for the valuable advise. I wanted to upgrade the KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 but could not get the sourse from which it was available. Please also advise if unused space on a harddisk can be transferred to the partition where Kubuntu is installed. I have Win XP on C partition and D + E are free. Would like to add space to the Kubuntu partition. Dont want to format the disk and reinstall if it can be avoided. Thanks again. Farid On 3/19/07, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:21:35PM +0500, Farid Ansari wrote: > > > > Will it be possible to Upgrade the Kubuntu 6.10 when the new version > > is released or will a fresh Install be required for 7.04. > > Yes it's possible to upgrade. We badly need testers for the dist > upgrade tool. > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade > > Jonathan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:35:42 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:35:42 -0600 Subject: Q: panel configuration In-Reply-To: <1174185429.5698.6.camel@macvalle> References: <256f4e900703171053r5d109780w9bec81d16c3f61a1@mail.gmail.com> <1174157553.14520.18.camel@macvalle> <45FC67D8.2090103@gmail.com> <1174185429.5698.6.camel@macvalle> Message-ID: <45FE9FBE.2030903@gmail.com> Macario Valle said the following at 03/17/2007 08:37 PM : > My bad, I misunderstood you. Here is how to get around to that: > 1. right click on the panel and choose "Add Applet to panel", add quick > Launcher > 2. got to a terminal and restart kicker: > dcop kicker kicker restart > 3. right click on the quick launcher area and select "Configure > QuickLauncher" > 4. Change "Icon Size from Automatic to your desired size. > Thank you very much. Excellent! That did the job. > Long way around, but that is the only way I have found. The other > option: Appeareance->Icons->advanced-> panel seems to not have been > implemented so far, i have 3.5.6. The really weird thing is that even if one edits the configuration file manually to change the icon size from 32 to 16, and then restarts KDE, it has no effect. So it looks like the value "32" is currently hard-coded in KDE somewhere, and KDE doesn't actually bother to read the value from the configuration file yet. (KDE 3.5.5) From smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru Mon Mar 19 14:48:03 2007 From: smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:48:03 +0300 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703190726l56a1e205o9aaa6df51689be6@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> <27b81ea70703190726l56a1e205o9aaa6df51689be6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FEA2A3.6080209@mail.nnov.ru> keyword is gparted, try to google :) Farid Ansari wrote: > **Thank you for the valuable advise. I wanted to upgrade the KDE 3.5.5 > to 3.5.6 but could not get the sourse from which it was available. > Please also advise if unused space on a harddisk can be transferred to > the partition where Kubuntu is installed. > I have Win XP on C partition and D + E are free. Would like to add > space to the Kubuntu partition. > Dont want to format the disk and reinstall if it can be avoided. > Thanks again. > Farid > > > On 3/19/07, *Jonathan Riddell* > wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:21:35PM +0500, Farid Ansari wrote: > > > > Will it be possible to Upgrade the Kubuntu 6.10 when the new > version > > is released or will a fresh Install be required for 7.04. > > Yes it's possible to upgrade. We badly need testers for the dist > upgrade tool. > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade > > Jonathan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From k7qo at commspeed.net Mon Mar 19 16:28:04 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:28:04 -0700 Subject: GUI for CD/DVD writing in Kubuntu 7.04 Message-ID: <1174321684.8948.12.camel@kubuntu7.04> Since k3b is broken at the present time due to cdrecord being replaced with whodim, what GUI are people using in Kubuntu 7.04? The use of "apropos" and info give me no clues. No leads in Kmenu either. When you bring up k3b and build a CD to burn and then start the burn you get the following: cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 255). Unknown error 255 If you are running an unpatched cdrecord version... ...and this error also occurs with high quality media... ...and the k3b FAQ does not help you... ...please include the debugging output in your problem report. and there you have it. TIA -- Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net/ personal web page Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water. From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Mon Mar 19 16:47:42 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:47:42 -0700 Subject: GUI for CD/DVD writing in Kubuntu 7.04 In-Reply-To: <1174321684.8948.12.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1174321684.8948.12.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <200703190947.43025.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Monday 19 March 2007 09:28:04 am adams wrote: > Since k3b is broken at the present time due to > cdrecord being replaced with whodim, what GUI > are people using in Kubuntu 7.04? > > The use of "apropos" and info give me no clues. > No leads in Kmenu either. > > When you bring up k3b and build a CD to burn > and then start the burn you get the following: > > cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 255). > Unknown error 255 > If you are running an unpatched cdrecord version... > ...and this error also occurs with high quality media... > ...and the k3b FAQ does not help you... > ...please include the debugging output in your problem report. > > > and there you have it. Strange I have had no problems running K3B ,but you could try Arson > > > TIA > > > -- > Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net > http://www.k7qo.net/ personal web page > > Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water. From philbieber at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 16:53:08 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:53:08 +0100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703190726l56a1e205o9aaa6df51689be6@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> <27b81ea70703190726l56a1e205o9aaa6df51689be6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703190953q54185a3ey14806f7869540a59@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Farid Ansari: Try grabbing the gparted Live CD or any Live CD and use gparted or qtparted to resize the partitions. ought to work quite well. I recommend qtparted, as I had a better experience with it... There is a kubuntu repository that has the most recent KDE version... Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main Jonathan Riddel: I did upgrade, but the "old" way. Just changed everything in my /etc/apt/sources.list from edgy to feisty and the did a aptitude dist-upgrade and worked perfectly... didn't know about that tool. If you want to have any additional infos, I can try to provide them, but dunno if that helps, as I have done it "manually"... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hawkins) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:20:43 -0400 Subject: Bad GPG Key Message-ID: <200703191320.44744.rbh@neohawk.org> Hey folks, I was going to upgrade to Koffice 1.6.2 but my update gave me the following error: GPG error: http://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu edgy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell I did try another mirror server as well, same thing. Any ideas? The Koffice packages are ready to upgrade, but I didn't want to with this staring me in the face..... I am on edgy, btw. TIA, Rob -- Robert B. Hawkins rbh at neohawk.org From dduong at goldenmunky.org Mon Mar 19 17:43:36 2007 From: dduong at goldenmunky.org (David Duong) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:43:36 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 3D Graphics Card Choice In-Reply-To: <73F5140BC7AAE8418DAABF0336FF9DBD920465@IS-EX-VS1.unimelb.edu.au> References: <73F5140BC7AAE8418DAABF0336FF9DBD920465@IS-EX-VS1.unimelb.edu.au> Message-ID: <20070319174335.GA21299@Drizzt.goldenmunky.org> I am unsure what you are really asking but I will try my best to answer your question. If you are actually upgrading the hardware then I would go with Nvidia because their drivers are A LOT better than ATI drivers are at this time. On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 01:25:56PM +1100, David William Galea wrote: > I am running Kubuntu Edgy and would like to upgrade my graphics card to > a 3D one for games and higher graphics FPS. > > > > Any recommendations on Linux drivers for any type of these? > > > > David Galea > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From lokeey at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 17:49:01 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:49:01 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu 3D Graphics Card Choice In-Reply-To: <20070319174335.GA21299@Drizzt.goldenmunky.org> References: <73F5140BC7AAE8418DAABF0336FF9DBD920465@IS-EX-VS1.unimelb.edu.au> <20070319174335.GA21299@Drizzt.goldenmunky.org> Message-ID: as an experienced ATI & Nvidia card user...I would definitely have to agree with going with Nvidia. I have no clue why I went back to ATi after my last Nvidia card. Actually I do...$$$$$. But as of next week I will be back with Nvidia! On 3/19/07, David Duong wrote: > > I am unsure what you are really asking but I will try my best to answer > your question. If you are actually upgrading the hardware then I would go > with Nvidia > because their drivers are A LOT better than ATI drivers are at this time. > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 01:25:56PM +1100, David William Galea wrote: > > I am running Kubuntu Edgy and would like to upgrade my graphics card to > > a 3D one for games and higher graphics FPS. > > > > > > > > Any recommendations on Linux drivers for any type of these? > > > > > > > > David Galea > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maurograuso at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 18:19:09 2007 From: maurograuso at gmail.com (Mauro Grauso) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:19:09 +0100 Subject: Overwrite preview in Konqueror Message-ID: Does anybody know how to activate the preview of graphical files in konqueror when asking wether to overwrite an existing file? Thanks, Mauro From lure at ubuntu.com Mon Mar 19 18:54:32 2007 From: lure at ubuntu.com (Luka Renko) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:54:32 +0100 Subject: Bad GPG Key In-Reply-To: <200703191320.44744.rbh@neohawk.org> References: <200703191320.44744.rbh@neohawk.org> Message-ID: <200703191954.32878.lure@ubuntu.com> On Monday 19. of March 2007 18:20:43 Robert B. Hawkins wrote: > Hey folks, > > I was going to upgrade to Koffice 1.6.2 but my update > gave me the following error: > > GPG error: http://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu edgy Release: The following > signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell > > > I did try another mirror server as well, same thing. Any ideas? > The Koffice packages are ready to upgrade, but I didn't want to > with this staring me in the face..... Did you import Jonathan's key as described on announcement page [1]? Regards, Luka [1] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-162.php From rbh at neohawk.org Mon Mar 19 19:13:12 2007 From: rbh at neohawk.org (Robert B. Hawkins) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:13:12 -0400 Subject: Bad GPG Key In-Reply-To: <200703191954.32878.lure@ubuntu.com> References: <200703191320.44744.rbh@neohawk.org> <200703191954.32878.lure@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200703191513.12699.rbh@neohawk.org> On Monday 19 March 2007 02:54:32 pm Luka Renko wrote: > Did you import Jonathan's key as described on announcement page [1]? Yes, I did. Perhaps, I need to remove it and re-add it, since I have had his key for a while now....Thanks for the hint. Rob -- Robert B. Hawkins rbh at neohawk.org From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Mar 19 19:13:30 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:13:30 -0300 Subject: DBMS's References: <200703181629.53405.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > After banging my head for three days I could not get MySQL to join two > tables properly (it misses every other row on the second table). Odd - I've never had a problem. Are you absolutely sure that the tables have common values in the join column? I've seen situations where a conversion from MS Access to MySQL didn't work easily, because Access blithely ignored case differences and leading/trailing spaces (not in joins, but in SELECT statements, in my case, but you get the point...). That makes it Access's problem, not MySQL's. > Lastly, I decided to install Postgresql. The list of software for this > system is mindboggling and seemingly impossible to figure which files one > needs to install. Then you're doing it the wrong way: # aptitude install postgresql postgresql-client will get you the server, the client, and all the support software. This is a debian-based OS - you never need to worry about dependencies. > My question is: is it better to try and resolve the MySQL join problem or > find some instructions/procedures to complete the Postgresql installation? Overall, I consider postgre to be superior, but either one should work. -- derek From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 19 22:19:50 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:19:50 -0400 Subject: /etc/apt/sources.list In-Reply-To: <200703181932.43416.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703181722.26508.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <45FDC6CD.2070001@blueyonder.co.uk> <200703181932.43416.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703191819.50876.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> So after not getting many responses on this thread, off to the forums......I found this interesting link--Im sure the more experienced people have it memorized by heart (not this newb): http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ and received an education on the gpg's used in the apt-get update process. After following the instructions to reinstall the keys I still get an error on downloading the headers from the edgy-backports universe repository, but at least my Adept_Updater seems active again....it lulled for a few days. So I will be off to the forums again. Larry On Sunday 18 March 2007 07:32:43 pm Larry Hartman wrote: > Well that is just it, Adept doesn't show me the actual error. > > However I ran sudo apt-get update and get these results: > > Get:1 http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release.gpg [189B] > Get:2 http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial/main Translation-en_US > Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Translation-en_US > Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Translation-en_US > Get:5 http://kubuntu.org edgy Release.gpg [189B] > Ign http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Translation-en_US > Hit http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial Release > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/multiverse Translation-en_US > Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Translation-en_US > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Translation-en_US > Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Translation-en_US > Hit http://kubuntu.org edgy Release > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/universe Translation-en_US > Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release.gpg [191B] > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Translation-en_US > Hit http://archive.canonical.com edgy-commercial/main Packages > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted > Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe > Translation-en_US Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com > edgy-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US Hit http://security.ubuntu.com > edgy-security/restricted Packages > Hit http://kubuntu.org edgy/main Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports Release > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/multiverse Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/restricted Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/multiverse Sources > Hit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/universe Sources > Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Translation-en_US > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/restricted Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/multiverse Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/universe Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/main Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/multiverse Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/universe Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Packages > Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Packages > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/main Sources > Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Translation-en_US > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/restricted Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Sources > Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/multiverse Sources > Get:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > [28.4kB] 99% [8 Packages gzip 0] [Waiting for headers] > gzip: stdin: not in gzip format > Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-backports/universe Packages > Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) > Ign http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Translation-en_US > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Packages > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Packages > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Sources > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Sources > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Packages > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Packages > 99% [Waiting for headers] > 35.2Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/free Sources > Hit http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy/non-free Sources > Fetched 8B in 9s (1B/s) > Failed to fetch > http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/universe/binary-i3 >86/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) > Reading package lists... Done > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones > used instead. > > I gather from the above that I am missing some key files? Here is my > current repository list from /etc/apt/sources.list > > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates restricted main > multiverse universe > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates restricted main > multiverse universe > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse universe > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse universe > deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted > universe multiverse > deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted > universe multiverse > deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security restricted main > multiverse universe > deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security restricted main > multiverse universe > deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free > deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free > deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free > deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy non-free > deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main > deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main > > On Sunday 18 March 2007 07:10:05 pm Tez wrote: > > Larry Hartman wrote: > > > I keep on getting errors on edgy-backports universe during Adept > > > updates....is this a valid repository? > > > > It's a valid repository, it would help if you posted the errors you're > > getting so we could determine the problem you're having. > > > > Tez From ofarfan at cirma.org.gt Mon Mar 19 22:38:58 2007 From: ofarfan at cirma.org.gt (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Oscar_Farf=E1n?=) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:38:58 -0600 Subject: question about locate Message-ID: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> Hello there I'm triying to locate a document in my computer but I can't use locate.... can anyone help me please From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Mon Mar 19 22:45:42 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:45:42 -0400 Subject: question about locate In-Reply-To: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> References: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> Message-ID: <45FF1296.7000301@gatech.edu> Oscar Farfán wrote: > Hello there > > I'm triying to locate a document in my computer but I can't use locate.... A lot more detail would help. What document is it? What do you know about it? Do you have /any/ idea where the file is? Why can't you use locate? Have you tried running: sudo updatedb > can anyone help me please Try: find / -name "myfile.ext" myfile.ext is obviously your filename. If you don't know the filename exactly try: find / -name "*search*" where search is a search term. It's take a while... Matthew Flaschen From k7qo at commspeed.net Mon Mar 19 22:49:53 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:49:53 -0700 Subject: question about locate In-Reply-To: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> References: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> Message-ID: <1174344593.5511.1.camel@kubuntu7.04> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 16:38 -0600, Oscar Farfán wrote: > Hello there > > I'm triying to locate a document in my computer but I can't use locate.... > > can anyone help me please > The program to use is "find" IMHO. If it is outside your files under /home/username: sudo find / -name filename if it is in your directory space find /home/username -name filename Hope this helps. -- Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net/ personal web page Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 22:50:50 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:50:50 +0200 Subject: question about locate In-Reply-To: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> References: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> Message-ID: <200703200050.50820.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I'm triying to locate a document in my computer but I can't use locate.... Why can't you use locate? Also try K->Find files and folders OR, in a top-level directory: find . -iname "*keyword*" /d From cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu Mon Mar 19 23:17:12 2007 From: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu (Christophe Guilbert) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:17:12 -0700 Subject: gatos and ATI radeon all in wonder install Message-ID: <45FF19F8.1080308@picasso.ucsf.edu> Hi guys , I am trying to use edgy (6.10) as a multimedia PC using a ATI radeon all in wonder. I install Gatos using adept and so what !!??? :-( what should I do ? I am completely lost. how should I configure Gatos. All the tutorial out there deal with patches and complicate fix. /Is gatos installed by adept not enough by itself ?/ Thanks for any help Chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Sun Microsystems From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 23:53:56 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 07:53:56 +0800 Subject: question about locate In-Reply-To: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> References: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> Message-ID: <200703200753.57420.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Oscar Farfán wrote: > Hello there > > I'm triying to locate a document in my computer but I can't use locate.... Locate is a bit quirky compared to find or kfind (K Menu -> Find). It's faster than find because it sorts of creates an index (or database) of files at every boot and searches that database instead of going through every folder (like what find does). The problem is that it doesn't automatically add newly created files to that database. So if you downloaded or created a new file, locate won't be able to find them unless you update the database, using "sudo updatedb" command. You can probably use the more powerful "find" command or kfind, as the others have suggested. From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Mar 20 00:02:35 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:02:35 -0400 Subject: question about locate In-Reply-To: <200703200753.57420.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> <200703200753.57420.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FF249B.3030205@gatech.edu> Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Oscar Farfán wrote: >> Hello there >> >> I'm triying to locate a document in my computer but I can't use locate.... > > Locate is a bit quirky compared to find or kfind (K Menu -> Find). It's faster > than find because it sorts of creates an index (or database) of files at > every boot and searches that database instead of going through every folder > (like what find does). The problem is that it doesn't automatically add newly > created files to that database. So if you downloaded or created a new file, > locate won't be able to find them unless you update the database, using "sudo > updatedb" command. It runs automatically every day (and this can be increased)... I've actually found kfind a bit unreliable, but it should be okay for most purposes. Matthew Flaschen From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 01:24:11 2007 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:24:11 -0400 Subject: DBMS's In-Reply-To: References: <200703181629.53405.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703192124.11387.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> On Monday 19 March 2007 3:13 pm, Derek Broughton wrote: ... > Then you're doing it the wrong way: > > # aptitude install postgresql postgresql-client > > will get you the server, the client, and all the support software. This is > a debian-based OS - you never need to worry about dependencies. Probably so. I went back and "removed" everything I did and executed the above 'aptitude' line. It installed version 7. and muttered about updating to version 8. . If it goes this far why didn't it do 8 in the first place? Oh well, we will ignore it for the moment. After a few agonizing hours I finally figured out the damn procedure to establish myself as a user. PostgreSQL 7.x seems to be up and running. Thanks for your help. After a little shakedown cruise I'll see if it does any better on the join problem. Also I have to learn a new variant on the SQL and "enhancements." -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From daniel at rimspace.net Tue Mar 20 01:16:59 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:16:59 +1100 Subject: Kubuntu 3D Graphics Card Choice References: <73F5140BC7AAE8418DAABF0336FF9DBD920465@IS-EX-VS1.unimelb.edu.au> Message-ID: <878xdsogs4.fsf@rimspace.net> David William Galea writes: > I am running Kubuntu Edgy and would like to upgrade my graphics card > to a 3D one for games and higher graphics FPS. > > Any recommendations on Linux drivers for any type of these? Sure. Use an Intel part -- although that needs to be integrated at the moment. They are talking about discrete cards again, which is great, but not for some time. Intel produce the only current 3D hardware that has completely open specs. Otherwise you get to choose your poison: You can buy an older ATI card -- anything up to the R300 core (X800) should be fine and is supported by open drivers. Not the fastest thing in the world but probably fine for most use. You can buy an NVIDIA card and wait for the reverse engineered driver to catch up, living with the pain of a binary driver until then. You can buy a more modern ATI card and hope that their being owned by AMD, a hugely Linux friendly company and direct competitor to Intel, results in a change on their specification policy. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Mar 20 04:06:39 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:06:39 -0400 Subject: DBMS's In-Reply-To: <200703192124.11387.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> References: <200703181629.53405.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <200703192124.11387.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FF5DCF.5080508@gatech.edu> Gerald I. Evenden wrote: > On Monday 19 March 2007 3:13 pm, Derek Broughton wrote: > ... >> Then you're doing it the wrong way: >> >> # aptitude install postgresql postgresql-client >> >> will get you the server, the client, and all the support software. This is >> a debian-based OS - you never need to worry about dependencies. > > Probably so. I went back and "removed" everything I did and executed the > above 'aptitude' line. It installed version 7. and muttered about updating > to version 8. . If it goes this far why didn't it do 8 in the first place? > Oh well, we will ignore it for the moment. Try: sudo aptitude remove postgresql postgresql-client sudo aptitude install postgresql-8.1 postgresql-client-8.1 Matthew Flaschen From aikurn at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 07:37:40 2007 From: aikurn at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leticia_Hern=E1ndez?=) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:37:40 +0100 Subject: Overwrite preview in Konqueror In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2007/3/19, Mauro Grauso : > > Does anybody know how to activate the preview of graphical files in > konqueror when asking wether to overwrite an existing file? > IIRC you need to install the package kdeaddons-kfile-plugins. 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Olli Tammilehto From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Tue Mar 20 09:54:12 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:54:12 +0100 Subject: gatos: some other binaries: References: <45FF19F8.1080308@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Hi guys , > > I am trying to use edgy (6.10) as a multimedia PC using a ATI radeon all > in wonder. > I install Gatos using adept and so what !!??? :-( what should I do ? I > am completely lost. how should I configure Gatos. All the tutorial out > there deal with patches and complicate fix. /Is gatos installed by > adept not enough by itself ?/ > > Thanks for any help > > Chris > Whoops, forgot to mention these: usr/bin/scanpci usr/bin/xatitv usr/bin/yuvsum Sorry about that. Jonathan From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Tue Mar 20 11:35:15 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:35:15 +0100 Subject: gatos and ATI 1st msg References: <45FF19F8.1080308@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Hi guys , > > I am trying to use edgy (6.10) as a multimedia PC using a ATI radeon all > in wonder. > I install Gatos using adept and so what !!??? :-( what should I do ? I > am completely lost. how should I configure Gatos. All the tutorial out > there deal with patches and complicate fix. /Is gatos installed by > adept not enough by itself ?/ > > Thanks for any help > > Chris > This message didn't seem to make it onto the list so I'm reposting it: Hi Chris, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. The gatos package has the following executables: usr/bin/atisplit usr/bin/atitogif usr/bin/atitojpg usr/bin/atitoppm usr/bin/atitv You might try running one or the other of these depending on what you want to do. Cheers, Jonathan From ansari.farid at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 13:28:38 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:28:38 +0500 Subject: gatos and ATI 1st msg In-Reply-To: References: <45FF19F8.1080308@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703200628k79c407c2k809ace49ad6a1d0b@mail.gmail.com> In windows you run the command ' winver ' to ascertain the version. How does one verify the version for Kubuntu ? Farid On 3/20/07, Jonathan Kaye wrote: > > Christophe Guilbert wrote: > > > Hi guys , > > > > I am trying to use edgy (6.10) as a multimedia PC using a ATI radeon all > > in wonder. > > I install Gatos using adept and so what !!??? :-( what should I do ? I > > am completely lost. how should I configure Gatos. All the tutorial out > > there deal with patches and complicate fix. /Is gatos installed by > > adept not enough by itself ?/ > > > > Thanks for any help > > > > Chris > > > This message didn't seem to make it onto the list so I'm reposting it: > Hi Chris, > I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. The gatos package has the > following executables: > usr/bin/atisplit > usr/bin/atitogif > usr/bin/atitojpg > usr/bin/atitoppm > usr/bin/atitv > You might try running one or the other of these depending on what you want > to do. > Cheers, > Jonathan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Mar 20 13:16:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:16:59 -0300 Subject: DBMS's References: <200703181629.53405.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <200703192124.11387.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> <45FF5DCF.5080508@gatech.edu> Message-ID: Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Gerald I. Evenden wrote: >> On Monday 19 March 2007 3:13 pm, Derek Broughton wrote: >> ... >>> Then you're doing it the wrong way: >>> >>> # aptitude install postgresql postgresql-client >>> >>> will get you the server, the client, and all the support software. This >>> is a debian-based OS - you never need to worry about dependencies. >> >> Probably so. I went back and "removed" everything I did and executed the >> above 'aptitude' line. It installed version 7. and muttered about >> updating >> to version 8. . If it goes this far why didn't it do 8 in the first >> place? Oh well, we will ignore it for the moment. > > Try: > > sudo aptitude remove postgresql postgresql-client > sudo aptitude install postgresql-8.1 postgresql-client-8.1 Sorry, Matthew's right, I didn't check that "postgresql" actually dependend on the most recent version of the database (which is the way these things usually work...). I think it used to, but then the maintainers decided they needed to be able to run multiple versions of the database at the same time. It's always a trade-off - you can have a system that will always run the most recent available version of the software, by installing a virtual package that depends on the most recent version and using the "dist-upgrade" facility of apt but then you can only have two versions running side-by-side by jumping through major hoops. -- derek From k7qo at commspeed.net Tue Mar 20 13:38:23 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:38:23 -0700 Subject: gatos and ATI 1st msg In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703200628k79c407c2k809ace49ad6a1d0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FF19F8.1080308@picasso.ucsf.edu> <27b81ea70703200628k79c407c2k809ace49ad6a1d0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174397903.5511.6.camel@kubuntu7.04> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 18:28 +0500, Farid Ansari wrote: > In windows you run the command ' winver ' to ascertain the version. > How does one verify the version for Kubuntu ? > Farid uname -a from the command line in a window and a shell From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 13:46:21 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:46:21 +0200 Subject: gatos and ATI 1st msg In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703200628k79c407c2k809ace49ad6a1d0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FF19F8.1080308@picasso.ucsf.edu> <27b81ea70703200628k79c407c2k809ace49ad6a1d0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703201546.21081.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > In windows you run the command ' winver ' to ascertain the version. How > does one verify the version for Kubuntu ? uname -r uname -a /d From barros001 at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 14:32:43 2007 From: barros001 at gmail.com (Carlos Barros) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:32:43 -0300 Subject: Dapper -> Edgy and blank screen after splash Message-ID: <64bb86df0703200732h362a284am192868780941ace3@mail.gmail.com> Hi list! I've upgraded from dapper to edgy last week. Everything was fine, but when I rebooted, I get a blank screen just after the splash goes away. I can notice that it is not a terminal screen (80x25). It remains the splash screen conf, but without the logo. I cant do anything at this point, just reset or ctrl+alt+del. If I remove the splash from grup options, I can boot without any problem. Doing some more tests I noticed that if I put video=vesafb vga=0x314, I get a very big logo in my screen but I can boot without problems (but my console is with a very low resolution, the chars are very big) Another vga= it didnt work cause any other value is not valid. I have a nvidia card and I'm using the nvidia binary driver in X. Any one had the same problem?? Thanks Carlos Barros -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Tue Mar 20 14:42:37 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:42:37 +0100 Subject: gatos and ATI 1st msg References: <45FF19F8.1080308@picasso.ucsf.edu> <27b81ea70703200628k79c407c2k809ace49ad6a1d0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Farid Ansari wrote: > In windows you run the command ' winver ' to ascertain the version. How > does one verify the version for Kubuntu ? > Farid > Farid, Out of courtesy for others, please don't hijack threads. If you have a question you can start your own thread. Cheers, Jonathan From einfall at mac.com Tue Mar 20 16:07:50 2007 From: einfall at mac.com (eric) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:07:50 -0500 Subject: KMail Message-ID: <200703201107.51018.einfall@mac.com> Hi all- I have been struggling with KMail for a bit now.. Here are the specs: 2 accounts, both IMAP one sending account both accounts work fine on my Macs, and using Evolution or Thunderbird on my Linux box. Issues: I have to restart KMail after waking up from hibernation, otherwise the folders do not load. I get multiple copies of the same message, sometimes as many as 10. Every time I click on one of the inbox folders, the messages disappear, then reappear (this is the worst of them all). Any help would be great.. Otherwise, I have gotten the system run run well. This Kontact/ KMail issue has me miffed tho.. Thanks in advance. From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Mar 20 16:45:19 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:45:19 -0300 Subject: KMail References: <200703201107.51018.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: eric wrote: > I have to restart KMail after waking up from hibernation, otherwise the > folders do not load. Very true. You can kill all the kio-imap slaves (ps aux | grep kio_imap4), but that's not pretty. > I get multiple copies of the same message, sometimes as many as 10. > Every time I click on one of the inbox folders, the messages disappear, > then reappear (this is the worst of them all). That sounds very much as if you have a filter running that is copying the message to your Inbox. -- derek From einfall at mac.com Tue Mar 20 17:48:47 2007 From: einfall at mac.com (eric) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:48:47 -0500 Subject: KMail In-Reply-To: References: <200703201107.51018.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: <200703201248.47682.einfall@mac.com> Thanks derek- Sounds like killing the kio-imap slaves is unnecessary - this issue is really no big deal anyway... I turned off the 'bogofilter' in filter settings. This may have been the culprit.... If you don't hear back from me, all is good.. thanks much. On Tuesday 20 March 2007 11:45, Derek Broughton wrote: > eric wrote: > > I have to restart KMail after waking up from hibernation, otherwise the > > folders do not load. > > Very true. You can kill all the kio-imap slaves (ps aux | grep kio_imap4), > but that's not pretty. > > > I get multiple copies of the same message, sometimes as many as 10. > > Every time I click on one of the inbox folders, the messages disappear, > > then reappear (this is the worst of them all). > > That sounds very much as if you have a filter running that is copying the > message to your Inbox. > -- > derek From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Tue Mar 20 18:01:05 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:01:05 +0100 Subject: question about locate In-Reply-To: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> References: <45FF1102.1070207@cirma.org.gt> Message-ID: <46002161.1050904@wanadoo.fr> If update never ran before and is telling the database is out of date, you'll probably have to update the database using the following command (it can take a long time) : sudo updatedb Cheers Oscar Farfán a écrit : > Hello there > > I'm triying to locate a document in my computer but I can't use locate.... > > can anyone help me please > > From dufresnep at fastmail.fm Tue Mar 20 18:24:35 2007 From: dufresnep at fastmail.fm (Paul Dufresne) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:24:35 -0400 Subject: How to ascertain Ubuntu's version? Message-ID: <1174415075.30875.1180462441@webmail.messagingengine.com> > In windows you run the command ' winver ' to ascertain the version. > How does one verify the version for Kubuntu ? > Farid In a konsole, try: lsb_release -a -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail From cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu Tue Mar 20 20:43:21 2007 From: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu (Christophe Guilbert) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:43:21 -0700 Subject: gatos and ATI 1st msg (Jonathan Kaye) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46004769.5030608@picasso.ucsf.edu> Thanks Jonathan, I don't even know myself what I really want because I am lost ;-) (I am a linux guy for 10 years) I love Linux (installed on my 7 computers at home) but I am kind of tired of reading how things works now. Anyway the confusion comes from that gatos is also supposed to be a driver for my video card , and they are at least 3 drivers for my video card, the one provide by gatos should be ATI (in xorg.conf), and apparently merge with the official xorg 7.xx driver. but when you google for gatos/kubuntu, you find patches and link provided. you are said to find the last patch in some ftp/directory wich are reading protected so you can't see the latest patch. In any case , I assume that if gatos come with kubuntu , you should not need to patch it. Any way , this is the jungle to me ! I'll try to read more about gatos and definitely run those exe your mention. Thanks a lots for your help. Chris > > >> Hi guys , >> >> I am trying to use edgy (6.10) as a multimedia PC using a ATI radeon all >> in wonder. >> I install Gatos using adept and so what !!??? :-( what should I do ? I >> am completely lost. how should I configure Gatos. All the tutorial out >> there deal with patches and complicate fix. /Is gatos installed by >> adept not enough by itself ?/ >> >> Thanks for any help >> >> Chris >> >> > > Hi Chris, > I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. The gatos package has the > following executables: > usr/bin/atisplit > usr/bin/atitogif > usr/bin/atitojpg > usr/bin/atitoppm > usr/bin/atitv > You might try running one or the other of these depending on what you want > to do. > Cheers, > Jonathan > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Sun Microsystems From sveri-list at gmx.de Tue Mar 20 21:04:59 2007 From: sveri-list at gmx.de (Sven Richter) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:04:59 +0100 Subject: Graphic card and TFT Message-ID: <200703202205.00312.sveri-list@gmx.de> Hi, i want to buy myself a new monitor and Graphiccard. I decided for a 24" TFT and a nvidia card like the 7950 GT and i want to keep my old 19" TFT as second screen. Does somebody have experience with this? Are there any problems with the drivers? Are they yet supported? Greetings Sven Richter From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 22:34:33 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:34:33 -0700 Subject: Graphic card and TFT In-Reply-To: <200703202205.00312.sveri-list@gmx.de> References: <200703202205.00312.sveri-list@gmx.de> Message-ID: On 3/20/07, Sven Richter wrote: > Hi, > > i want to buy myself a new monitor and Graphiccard. > I decided for a 24" TFT and a nvidia card like the 7950 GT > and i want to keep my old 19" TFT as second screen. Awesome. Yeah, the drivers all work, and making a dual-monitor config in Xorg isn't that hard. It's actually really easy on Kubuntu with the systemsettings app (aka System Settings, you know, the little guy that you plug KControl widgets into). > Does somebody have experience with this? Personally: no. > Are there any problems with the drivers? A few small anachronisms, but nothing major. > Are they yet supported? NVIDIA has some of the best Linux drivers out there. -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From sveri-list at gmx.de Wed Mar 21 06:14:14 2007 From: sveri-list at gmx.de (Sven Richter) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:14:14 +0100 Subject: Graphic card and TFT In-Reply-To: References: <200703202205.00312.sveri-list@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200703210714.14938.sveri-list@gmx.de> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 23:34:33 Chris Miller wrote: > On 3/20/07, Sven Richter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > i want to buy myself a new monitor and Graphiccard. > > I decided for a 24" TFT and a nvidia card like the 7950 GT > > and i want to keep my old 19" TFT as second screen. > > Awesome. Yeah, the drivers all work, and making a dual-monitor config > in Xorg isn't that hard. It's actually really easy on Kubuntu with > the systemsettings app (aka System Settings, you know, the little guy > that you plug KControl widgets into). > Yeah, Awesome for me too, as a student i never had that much money, but scince i earn regularely a lot of money with poker its affordable :-) I just was unsure about it because i read somewhere that the drivers have to support reduced balancing. Whatever this may be... > > Are they yet supported? > > NVIDIA has some of the best Linux drivers out there. > I hope so, after going for some years with Ati and fuzzling a lot around with it i finally want to switch back to nvidia. I remember 3 years ag it took me 2 weeks to get my ati drivers running, no comparison to my last install, but i also want to try out beryl and all the funny things which are not supported by ati. At least i have a problem with watching tv on my computer (see the other thread i wrote one week ago) and i hope this goes away with the new graphiccard. Thx for the infos Greetings Sven From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Wed Mar 21 07:21:44 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:21:44 +0100 Subject: gatos and ATI 1st msg (Jonathan Kaye) References: <46004769.5030608@picasso.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: Christophe Guilbert wrote: > Thanks Jonathan, > > I don't even know myself what I really want because I am lost ;-) (I am > a linux guy for 10 years) I love Linux (installed on my 7 computers at > home) but I am kind of tired of reading how things works now. > Anyway the confusion comes from that gatos is also supposed to be a > driver for my video card , and they are at least 3 drivers for my > video card, the one provide by gatos should be ATI (in xorg.conf), and > apparently merge with the official xorg 7.xx driver. but when you google > for gatos/kubuntu, you find patches and link provided. you are said to > find the last patch in some ftp/directory wich are reading protected so > you can't see the latest patch. In any case , I assume that if gatos > come with kubuntu , you should not need to patch it. > Any way , this is the jungle to me ! > > I'll try to read more about gatos and definitely run those exe your > mention. > > Thanks a lots for your help. > > Chris >> Hi Chris, First I must admit that I don't use (K)ubuntu but rather Debian, so I'm not familiar with (K)ubuntu-specific stuff. However I found that Gatos is also a Debian package. Anyway I have an ATI Radeon 9550 series graphics card so that's why I was interested in your query. If all you want is to get a proper driver for the card, then I don't understand why you want Gatos. Maybe I'm missing something here. I just use the drivers supplied by ATI which you can find here: http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html There are a number of steps you need to follow but I can go through them if you're interested. The result is I have a nice running driver with 3D graphics enabled. Cheers, Jonathan From phillipj at ptd.net Wed Mar 21 10:24:53 2007 From: phillipj at ptd.net (Phillip Johnson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:24:53 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <20070321062453.863b1db4.phillipj@ptd.net> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:36:10 +0000 Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:21:35PM +0500, Farid Ansari wrote: > > > > Will it be possible to Upgrade the Kubuntu 6.10 when the new version > > is released or will a fresh Install be required for 7.04. > > Yes it's possible to upgrade. We badly need testers for the dist > upgrade tool. > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade > > Jonathan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi, I am running dapper, and I would like to help with this. However, I am having a problem with the instructions for chroot at the bottom. I am missing the edgy script required by the program. Here is the commands I ran to get to this point: sudo aptitude install debootstrap ... (normal stuff) The following NEW packages will be installed: debootstrap 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 48.9kB of archives. After unpacking 246kB will be used. Writing extended state information... Done Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main debootstrap 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 [48.9kB] Fetched 48.9kB in 1s (27.4kB/s) ... (more stuff) sudo aptitude install cdebootstrap ... (same type of stuff as above) cd mkdir edgy sudo debootstrap edgy edgy E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/edgy Do you have any suggestions, such as "don't bother me kid" :)? Phil From bonedu at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 15:25:18 2007 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:25:18 +0100 Subject: Help to configure monitor Message-ID: <3e192e060703210825q43ae9b54g346b91016bd0f0e1@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am trying to configure the monitor of a Toshiba U200, it is an intel 945gm. I have installed the packages xserver-xorg-video-i810 and xserver-xorg-video-intel but everything continues blurred, and flatten. Can someone provide some hints, please? Eduard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any special caveots to getting it working? Thanks Doug P From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Wed Mar 21 16:08:55 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:08:55 -0700 Subject: Help to configure monitor In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703210852k63f04b01t150d175337b6d071@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e192e060703210825q43ae9b54g346b91016bd0f0e1@mail.gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0703210852k63f04b01t150d175337b6d071@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46015897.5090201@oem.doe.gov> Phil Bieber wrote: > Hi! > I think the 915resolution package is needed for that graphics adapter. > Give it a try! > > Cheers > Philipp Bieber > -- > "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." > -- Buck Henry Which thread are you replying to? Did you change the subject? Doug P From philbieber at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 16:22:55 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:22:55 +0100 Subject: Help to configure monitor In-Reply-To: <46015897.5090201@oem.doe.gov> References: <3e192e060703210825q43ae9b54g346b91016bd0f0e1@mail.gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0703210852k63f04b01t150d175337b6d071@mail.gmail.com> <46015897.5090201@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703210922s793f5126td0b653625a4d084b@mail.gmail.com> Hi! That was in reply to your question "Help to configure monitor"... I didn't change the subject (other than the automatically added RE:) and GMail shows it as one conversation... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jerryturba at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 21 18:24:58 2007 From: jerryturba at sbcglobal.net (jerry) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:24:58 +0000 Subject: Need help to get wireless nic working Message-ID: <4601787A.6000501@sbcglobal.net> I have read and tried several howtos and tutorials but no success. I have tried so many ways to do it that I am not sure now if some of the left over detritus of past attempts is preventing the card from working. I have a spare computer (1 Gz cpu, 380 MB ram, 6 GB hd) that I did a clean install (all partitions reformatted) with Kubuntu 6.06 LTS using the x86 alternate cd. NIC is Linksys WMP54G PCI that works in windows XP. I have a router (Linksys WRT54GL) on my main computer (also Kubuntu with wired nic). I do not have WEP nor WAP turned on and am using MAC filtering. I am sure the MAC addresses are correct. The howto that I have found that is closest to my hardware is posted on Dossy's blog (Linksys WMP54GS with broadcom bcm4306 and 2.6 kernel) and is what I am currently using. During the install I got a message " Network Autoconfig failed" and no matter which option I tried to configure the nic the install could not find the wireless network. After the install completed and reboot,the green light on the nic does not light up. I tried to follow the howto. Here is some info: lspci -v 0000:00:08.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) lspci -n 0000:00:08.0 0280: 14e4:4320 (rev 02 I put ndiswrapper-1.1.tar.gz in my home directory, untared it and ran the script ./ndiswrapper, and ./ndiswrapper -m added the module to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper I also copied bcm43xx.cat, BCMWL5.inf, and bcmwl5.sys into the home dir and ran: sudo ./ndiswrapper -i BCMWL5.inf installing bcmwl5 jerry at backup:~/ndiswrapper-1.1/utils$ ./ndiswrapper -l Installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5 driver present, hardware present I ran "modprobe ndiswrapper" and now ndiswrapper is listed in lsmod. jerry at backup:~$ iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. eth0 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"linksysJET" Nickname:"Broadcom 4306" Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency=2.437 GHz Cell: Invalid Bit Rate=1 Mb/s RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 jerry at backup:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart * Reconfiguring network interfaces... Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.3 Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e Sending on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e Sending on Socket/fallback Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.3 Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e Sending on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e Sending on Socket/fallback receive_packet failed on eth0: Network is down DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 send_packet: Network is down Reboot and still no success. System Settings ->Connections does not show a wireless connection present. Network Settings shows the nic as disabled. If I click on the enable interface button the nic shows enabled for a fraction of a second and returns to disabled. I am at a loss on how to get the nic working and would appreciate any advice. Thanks Jerry From jerryturba at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 21 18:35:38 2007 From: jerryturba at sbcglobal.net (jerry) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:35:38 +0000 Subject: Dapper -> Edgy and blank screen after splash In-Reply-To: <64bb86df0703200732h362a284am192868780941ace3@mail.gmail.com> References: <64bb86df0703200732h362a284am192868780941ace3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46017AFA.7000504@sbcglobal.net> Carlos Barros wrote: > Hi list! > I've upgraded from dapper to edgy last week. Everything > was fine, but when I rebooted, I get a blank screen > just after the splash goes away. I can notice that it > is not a terminal screen (80x25). It remains > the splash screen conf, but without the logo. I cant > do anything at this point, just reset or ctrl+alt+del. > If I remove the splash from grup options, I can > boot without any problem. Doing some more tests > I noticed that if I put video=vesafb vga=0x314, I > get a very big logo in my screen but I can > boot without problems (but my console is > with a very low resolution, the chars are very > big) Another vga= it didnt work cause any other > value is not valid. > I have a nvidia card and I'm using the nvidia binary driver > in X. > Any one had the same problem?? > > Thanks > Carlos Barros > Since no one has responded to you question i thought I might give a try, but I am by no means an expert with Linux. I also lost the splash screen and the scrolling info going by after I did a kernel recompile. The system does still boot even though nothing is scrolling by on the screen. You may have to hit Ctrl-D to keep it going. Did you try to see what is happening during the boot by looking at the other terminals? Alt-CTRL-F1 to F8. I have not figured out out to get the splash back yet but since I only reboot every few months it is not a very high priority. I have a matrox card and can't help with the nvidia. Jerry From hobbsee at kubuntu.org Thu Mar 22 02:02:05 2007 From: hobbsee at kubuntu.org (Sarah Hobbs) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:02:05 +1100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <20070321062453.863b1db4.phillipj@ptd.net> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> <20070321062453.863b1db4.phillipj@ptd.net> Message-ID: <4601E39D.2090203@kubuntu.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Phillip Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:36:10 +0000 > Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 06:21:35PM +0500, Farid Ansari wrote: >>> Will it be possible to Upgrade the Kubuntu 6.10 when the new version >>> is released or will a fresh Install be required for 7.04. >> Yes it's possible to upgrade. We badly need testers for the dist >> upgrade tool. >> >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > Hi, > > I am running dapper, and I would like to help with this. However, I am having a problem with the instructions for chroot at the bottom. I am missing the edgy script required by the program. Here is the commands I ran to get to this point: > > sudo aptitude install debootstrap > ... (normal stuff) > The following NEW packages will be installed: > debootstrap > 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 48.9kB of archives. After unpacking 246kB will be used. > Writing extended state information... Done > Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main debootstrap 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 [48.9kB] > Fetched 48.9kB in 1s (27.4kB/s) > ... (more stuff) > sudo aptitude install cdebootstrap > ... (same type of stuff as above) > cd > mkdir edgy > sudo debootstrap edgy edgy > E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/edgy > > Do you have any suggestions, such as "don't bother me kid" :)? > > Phil > > Upgrade to edgy first, using apt, then try the dist-upgrader. Dapper --> feisty upgrades directly are not supported, and wont work. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAeOd7/o1b30rzoURAoxIAKDv1mayxiB+oGzRPSCJfVocSmDtYgCff8q/ +DL9IMywQJlv7WLTIWsaU24= =hvbQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jjesse at iserv.net Thu Mar 22 02:34:05 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:34:05 -0400 Subject: qtparted problems Message-ID: <200703212234.06126.jjesse@iserv.net> Good evening, I have a large drive (100 GB SATA drive) that I am dual booting Windows and Kubuntu w/. I would like to use some of the drive as a paritition that I could access both from Windows and Kubuntu. So I started up QTParted and used my password for sudo access and I can't create the partition. Attached is a screen shot and when I click on the free space the only option is properties. Thanks for the help -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: qparted.png Type: image/png Size: 29289 bytes Desc: not available URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 22 04:45:17 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:45:17 -0400 Subject: qtparted problems In-Reply-To: <200703212234.06126.jjesse@iserv.net> References: <200703212234.06126.jjesse@iserv.net> Message-ID: <460209DD.8040809@gatech.edu> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Good evening, > > I have a large drive (100 GB SATA drive) that I am dual booting Windows and > Kubuntu w/. I would like to use some of the drive as a paritition that I > could access both from Windows and Kubuntu. So I started up QTParted and > used my password for sudo access and I can't create the partition. > > Attached is a screen shot and when I click on the free space the only option > is properties. You'll want to go with FAT32 for the shared partition. I think the problem is that you already technically have 4 primary partitions. I'm not sure the best way to solve this. (You should have backups). The easiest is probably to put the swap partition in an extended partition (I don't know the performance ramifications of this). From the LiveCD: 1. Run the command: swapoff /dev/sda4 2. Delete the swap partition. 3. Create an extended partition. 4. Create the swap partition inside (specify 2 GB); I believe you right-click on the extended partition for this. 5. Create the FAT32 partition inside as well. Use the remaining space. Tell us if that works. 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We badly need testers for the dist >>> upgrade tool. >>> >>> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >> Hi, >> >> I am running dapper, and I would like to help with this. However, I am having a problem with the instructions for chroot at the bottom. I am missing the edgy script required by the program. Here is the commands I ran to get to this point: >> >> sudo aptitude install debootstrap >> ... (normal stuff) >> The following NEW packages will be installed: >> debootstrap >> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. >> Need to get 48.9kB of archives. After unpacking 246kB will be used. >> Writing extended state information... Done >> Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main debootstrap 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 [48.9kB] >> Fetched 48.9kB in 1s (27.4kB/s) >> ... (more stuff) >> sudo aptitude install cdebootstrap >> ... (same type of stuff as above) >> cd >> mkdir edgy >> sudo debootstrap edgy edgy >> E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/edgy >> >> Do you have any suggestions, such as "don't bother me kid" :)? >> >> Phil >> >> >> > Upgrade to edgy first, using apt, then try the dist-upgrader. > > Dapper --> feisty upgrades directly are not supported, and wont work. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGAeOd7/o1b30rzoURAoxIAKDv1mayxiB+oGzRPSCJfVocSmDtYgCff8q/ > +DL9IMywQJlv7WLTIWsaU24= > =hvbQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > That's very bad. Dapper is LTS and many people use it because it's so. Upgrading to Fiesty via Edgy - sounds like a reason to look other distros. From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 07:43:09 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:43:09 +0100 Subject: Is a G-ForceFX 5200 compatible with Beryl In-Reply-To: References: <460157F2.8050101@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703220043m4c8869e8kfbd8c8544232b2f7@mail.gmail.com> Hi! I would think, that as long that you get 3D in general working, there should be no problem... I'm using an INTEL onboard chip (INTL GMA 950) which is performing quite well with Beryl! Cheers Philipp Bieber -- "We need a president who's fluent in at least one language." -- Buck Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a router (Linksys WRT54GL) on my main computer (also Kubuntu > with wired nic). I do not have WEP nor WAP turned on and am using MAC > filtering. I am sure the MAC addresses are correct. > > The howto that I have found that is closest to my hardware is posted on > Dossy's blog (Linksys WMP54GS with broadcom bcm4306 and 2.6 kernel) and > is what I am currently using. > > During the install I got a message " Network Autoconfig failed" and no > matter which option I tried to configure the nic the install could not > find the wireless network. > > After the install completed and reboot,the green light on the nic does > not light up. > I tried to follow the howto. Here is some info: > > lspci -v > 0000:00:08.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g > Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) > > lspci -n > 0000:00:08.0 0280: 14e4:4320 (rev 02 > > I put ndiswrapper-1.1.tar.gz in my home directory, untared it and ran > the script ./ndiswrapper, and ./ndiswrapper -m added the module to > /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper > > I also copied bcm43xx.cat, BCMWL5.inf, and bcmwl5.sys into the home dir > and ran: > sudo ./ndiswrapper -i BCMWL5.inf > installing bcmwl5 > > jerry at backup:~/ndiswrapper-1.1/utils$ ./ndiswrapper -l > Installed ndis drivers: > bcmwl5 driver present, hardware present > > I ran "modprobe ndiswrapper" and now ndiswrapper is listed in lsmod. > > jerry at backup:~$ iwconfig > lo no wireless extensions. > > eth0 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"linksysJET" Nickname:"Broadcom 4306" > Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency=2.437 GHz Cell: Invalid > Bit Rate=1 Mb/s > RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > > jerry at backup:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart > * Reconfiguring network interfaces... > Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.3 > Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium. > All rights reserved. > For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP > > Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e > Sending on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e > Sending on Socket/fallback > Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.3 > Copyright 2004-2005 Internet Systems Consortium. > All rights reserved. > For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP > > SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory > SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory > Listening on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e > Sending on LPF/eth0/00:18:39:11:96:1e > Sending on Socket/fallback > receive_packet failed on eth0: Network is down > DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 > send_packet: Network is down > > Reboot and still no success. System Settings ->Connections does not > show a wireless connection present. Network Settings shows the nic as > disabled. If I click on the enable interface button the nic shows > enabled for a fraction of a second and returns to disabled. > > I am at a loss on how to get the nic working and would appreciate any > advice. > > Thanks > Jerry > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (dompie) Dom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 09:10:19 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:10:19 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <460230E6.2040700@mail.nnov.ru> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <4601E39D.2090203@kubuntu.org> <460230E6.2040700@mail.nnov.ru> Message-ID: <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > That's very bad. Dapper is LTS and many people use it because it's so. > Upgrading to Fiesty via Edgy - sounds like a reason to look other distros. From my imperfect understanding of things, there seems to be a "promise" that one LTS can upgrade to another. So if you stick to Dapper until the next LTS version (Wiley Whatever) then you *should* be able to upgrade to that one. That's what I'm counting on and that's why I am starving myself of all the new versions of KDE and Firefox etc. in order to have a stable system for the longest period. I think it strange that Linux seems to work this way, but then again it's a complicated O/S built by volunteers. That I have three bytes in a row I can actually use is a real miracle, and I appreciate the hard work others do for me without expecting anything in return. /d From phillipj at ptd.net Thu Mar 22 09:52:36 2007 From: phillipj at ptd.net (Phillip Johnson) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:52:36 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <4601E39D.2090203@kubuntu.org> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <20070319112612.GK3789@muse.19inch.net> <45FE76EB.9050409@mail.nnov.ru> <27b81ea70703190621j372515edqf4cf0c7ca2567ff5@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133610.GL3789@muse.19inch.net> <20070321062453.863b1db4.phillipj@ptd.net> <4601E39D.2090203@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: <20070322055236.796e9ba5.phillipj@ptd.net> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:02:05 +1100 Sarah Hobbs wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am running dapper, and I would like to help with this. However, I am having a problem with the instructions for chroot at the bottom. I am missing the edgy script required by the program. Here is the commands I ran to get to this point: > > > > sudo aptitude install debootstrap > > ... (normal stuff) > > The following NEW packages will be installed: > > debootstrap > > 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > > Need to get 48.9kB of archives. After unpacking 246kB will be used. > > Writing extended state information... Done > > Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main debootstrap 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 [48.9kB] > > Fetched 48.9kB in 1s (27.4kB/s) > > ... (more stuff) > > sudo aptitude install cdebootstrap > > ... (same type of stuff as above) > > cd > > mkdir edgy > > sudo debootstrap edgy edgy > > E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/edgy > > > > Do you have any suggestions, such as "don't bother me kid" :)? > > > > Phil > > > > > Upgrade to edgy first, using apt, then try the dist-upgrader. > > Dapper --> feisty upgrades directly are not supported, and wont work. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGAeOd7/o1b30rzoURAoxIAKDv1mayxiB+oGzRPSCJfVocSmDtYgCff8q/ > +DL9IMywQJlv7WLTIWsaU24= > =hvbQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Sarah, I thought the reason for the "chroot" was to avoid updating my dapper box to Edgy. I don't want to upgrade my dapper box, I was trying to keep it the way it is, and still try to help my distribution of choice in a small way. I'll just keep things the way they are. Thanks for the help, Phil From smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru Thu Mar 22 09:58:22 2007 From: smirnoff at mail.nnov.ru (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:58:22 +0300 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <4601E39D.2090203@kubuntu.org> <460230E6.2040700@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4602533E.2060302@mail.nnov.ru> Donn wrote: >> That's very bad. Dapper is LTS and many people use it because it's so. >> Upgrading to Fiesty via Edgy - sounds like a reason to look other distros. >> > From my imperfect understanding of things, there seems to be a "promise" that > one LTS can upgrade to another. So if you stick to Dapper until the next LTS > version (Wiley Whatever) then you *should* be able to upgrade to that one. > > That's what I'm counting on and that's why I am starving myself of all the new > versions of KDE and Firefox etc. in order to have a stable system for the > longest period. > > I think it strange that Linux seems to work this way, but then again it's a > complicated O/S built by volunteers. That I have three bytes in a row I can > actually use is a real miracle, and I appreciate the hard work others do for > me without expecting anything in return. > > /d fine, thanks for info. And when next LTS is planned to be issued? As for your's last paragraph, i do not think so :) Redhat, Canonical are commercial organizations, no charity. They compile distributions for making money. And I think they should be interested in making update procedure as smooth as it possible. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 10:23:51 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:23:51 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <4602533E.2060302@mail.nnov.ru> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4602533E.2060302@mail.nnov.ru> Message-ID: <200703221223.51935.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > fine, thanks for info. And when next LTS is planned to be issued? No idea. Dapper was a 3 year desktop thing, so what's that? 2009ish? > As for your's last paragraph, i do not think so :) Redhat, Canonical are > commercial organizations, no charity. They compile distributions for > making money. And I think they should be interested in making update > procedure as smooth as it possible. Well, I don't actually know. I'm not at all sure that all the folk who contribute to the total thing we call "Kubuntu" are being paid to do so. I could be wrong. /d From hobbsee at kubuntu.org Thu Mar 22 14:09:27 2007 From: hobbsee at kubuntu.org (Sarah Hobbs) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:09:27 +1100 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <4601E39D.2090203@kubuntu.org> <460230E6.2040700@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46028E17.50305@kubuntu.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Donn wrote: >> That's very bad. Dapper is LTS and many people use it because it's so. >> Upgrading to Fiesty via Edgy - sounds like a reason to look other distros. That's *always* been the way it's run, both in debian, and ubuntu. The transitional packages are not done between more than one release, because it would just get too confusing (think of an X transition, python transition, php4 transition, UUID transition, goodness knows what else, those are the ones coming to mind - and that's just between dapper and feisty) I'm not terribly familiar with alternatives - but I dont think you can upgrade suse 10.1 to 10.3 for eg, either - at least, not without solving the dependancy problems yourself. Of course, you can do that with ubuntu too - but you cant be promised a trouble-free upgrade if you're going to do that. > From my imperfect understanding of things, there seems to be a "promise" that > one LTS can upgrade to another. So if you stick to Dapper until the next LTS > version (Wiley Whatever) then you *should* be able to upgrade to that one. > That's what's promised, yes. However, feisty is NOT A LTS. No matter what you hear on forums, or on user lists, if it's not said in the original release announcement, and following ones, that it's a LTS release, then it isnt. You *will* be able to upgrade just fine between LTS releases. That's not what's being discussed here. That situation is not yet applicable. > That's what I'm counting on and that's why I am starving myself of all the new > versions of KDE and Firefox etc. in order to have a stable system for the > longest period. I'm still not sure that dapper is so stable - ie, edgy's getting more stable release updates, but am not about to argue this point. > > I think it strange that Linux seems to work this way, but then again it's a > complicated O/S built by volunteers. That I have three bytes in a row I can > actually use is a real miracle, and I appreciate the hard work others do for > me without expecting anything in return. > > /d > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAo4X7/o1b30rzoURAssFAKCQqav+wxJIBUmerS8cENdre8FsMgCgtOBU cWgQTzdw2ghZVrpQohuqP70= =b/tk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 15:41:42 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:41:42 +0200 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <46028E17.50305@kubuntu.org> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <46028E17.50305@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: <200703221741.42972.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Donn wrote: > >> That's very bad. Dapper is LTS and many people use it because it's so. > >> Upgrading to Fiesty via Edgy - sounds like a reason to look other > >> distros. >That's *always* been the way it's run, both in debian, and ubuntu. >(snip) Cool, except I didn't write that. > I'm not terribly familiar with alternatives - but I dont think you can > upgrade suse 10.1 to 10.3 for eg, either - at least, not without solving > the dependancy problems yourself. Of course, you can do that with > ubuntu too - but you cant be promised a trouble-free upgrade if you're > going to do that. As far as I know from Fedora-land, you either kept-up with each release or you stagnated in a gradually cooling lump of code until you could run nothing at all and your cries for help got lost on the wind ... :( It was harsh :) Hence my real hope when I read about Ubuntu and LTS to LTS. > You *will* be able to upgrade just fine between LTS releases. That's > not what's being discussed here. That situation is not yet applicable. > I am looking fwd to it! Of course, by then, I'll prob have my system in such an apt-get knot that I'll have to reformat anyway :D Ahhhhh. > > That's what I'm counting on and that's why I am starving myself of all > > the new versions of KDE and Firefox etc. in order to have a stable system > > for the longest period. > > I'm still not sure that dapper is so stable - ie, edgy's getting more > stable release updates, but am not about to argue this point. > No, I meant "stable" as in "dese packages ain't gonna change Bub - tough" :D Just correcting who said wot. Cheers, /d From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Mar 22 15:44:11 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:44:11 +0200 Subject: adding debian PGP Keys Message-ID: <4602A44B.1030306@rmk.co.il> I am trying to install scribus from the debian archives (there is a bug in the *ubuntu version) per: http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Getting_Scribus_on_Ubuntu/Kubuntu_up_and_running Using cryptographic repository signatures Our repositories are cryptographically signed for added security. Add the gpg-keys for our repositories to avoid having to confirm your installation choice to the package manager each time you update a scribus or scribus-ng package. New keys "If you are using our upstream repositories of Debian/Ubuntu Scribus packages you will notice during your next package upgrade that apt/aptitude complains about not having the right key. The reason for it is that as of today the key used for signing our repositories has been changed." by Alex (Malex). root$ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF root$ gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - or as a normal user (with an appropriate entry for apt-key in the sudoers file): user$ (sudo) gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF user$ (sudo) gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - But I get an error: nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF Password: gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions gpg: keyserver communications error: general error gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' gpg: WARNING: nothing exported gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. I did try changing the permissions to 'Owner: root Group: root' but ended up with a different error: nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - Password: gpg: requesting key EEF818CF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net gpg: key EEF818CF: "Scribus Debian Archive Signing Key " not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/secring.gpg': general error gpg: failed to create temporary file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': general error gpg: WARNING: nothing exported gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. nigel at nigels:~$ So how do I add the keys? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From ansari.farid at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 16:03:51 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:03:51 +0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <200703221741.42972.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <46028E17.50305@kubuntu.org> <200703221741.42972.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703220903j364dcac7n345099feff240a56@mail.gmail.com> *Will someone please advise how to upgrade KDE 3.5.5 to KDE 3.5.6.* *I am so very anxious to do this upgrade but am not able to because I am a newbie with Linux based distro's.* *Any assistance given will be highly appreciated.* *Farid Ansari* *Karachi, Pakistan * On 3/22/07, Donn wrote: > > > Donn wrote: > > >> That's very bad. Dapper is LTS and many people use it because it's > so. > > >> Upgrading to Fiesty via Edgy - sounds like a reason to look other > > >> distros. > >That's *always* been the way it's run, both in debian, and ubuntu. > >(snip) > Cool, except I didn't write that. > > > I'm not terribly familiar with alternatives - but I dont think you can > > upgrade suse 10.1 to 10.3 for eg, either - at least, not without solving > > the dependancy problems yourself. Of course, you can do that with > > ubuntu too - but you cant be promised a trouble-free upgrade if you're > > going to do that. > As far as I know from Fedora-land, you either kept-up with each release or > you > stagnated in a gradually cooling lump of code until you could run nothing > at > all and your cries for help got lost on the wind ... :( > It was harsh :) Hence my real hope when I read about Ubuntu and LTS to > LTS. > > > You *will* be able to upgrade just fine between LTS releases. That's > > not what's being discussed here. That situation is not yet applicable. > > > I am looking fwd to it! Of course, by then, I'll prob have my system in > such > an apt-get knot that I'll have to reformat anyway :D Ahhhhh. > > > > That's what I'm counting on and that's why I am starving myself of all > > > the new versions of KDE and Firefox etc. in order to have a stable > system > > > for the longest period. > > > > I'm still not sure that dapper is so stable - ie, edgy's getting more > > stable release updates, but am not about to argue this point. > > > No, I meant "stable" as in "dese packages ain't gonna change Bub - tough" > :D > > Just correcting who said wot. > > Cheers, > /d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at ryankaskel.com Thu Mar 22 16:33:50 2007 From: ryan at ryankaskel.com (Ryan Kaskel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:33:50 -0400 Subject: Help solving web server issues Message-ID: <4602AFEE.5080206@ryankaskel.com> This problem isn't Kubuntu specific but since I'm using the OS I thought this would be a good list to ask on. I have Apache setup and running and it works locally (using my domain name). But when an IP other than than the one the server is running on tries to access the site the browser says "connecting..." and is never able to connect. I've had a website working on a different server before (on the same network) but now it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? By the way, I am on a home network and my DSL subscription allows me to operate websites. IP passthrough to my server is enabled. Thanks, Ryan From claydoh at midmaine.com Thu Mar 22 16:45:29 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:45:29 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703220903j364dcac7n345099feff240a56@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221741.42972.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <27b81ea70703220903j364dcac7n345099feff240a56@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703221245.29383.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Thu March 22 2007 12:03:51 pm Farid Ansari wrote: > *Will someone please advise how to upgrade KDE 3.5.5 to KDE 3.5.6.* > *I am so very anxious to do this upgrade but am not able to because I am a > newbie with Linux based distro's.* > *Any assistance given will be highly appreciated.* > *Farid Ansari* > *Karachi, Pakistan > * > Basically you need to add a repository to your sources.list, info on what to add can be found here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php How to add repositories: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu To add the 3.5.6 repo, follow the section on "Adding Canonical Commercial Repositories" and substitute one of the repositories listed in my first link. Then 'fetch updates' and then do a 'full upgrade' -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 22 16:47:09 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:47:09 +0000 Subject: Help solving web server issues In-Reply-To: <4602AFEE.5080206@ryankaskel.com> References: <4602AFEE.5080206@ryankaskel.com> Message-ID: <4602B30D.2080402@blueyonder.co.uk> Ryan Kaskel wrote: > This problem isn't Kubuntu specific but since I'm using the OS I thought > this would be a good list to ask on. I have Apache setup and running and > it works locally (using my domain name). But when an IP other than than > the one the server is running on tries to access the site the browser > says "connecting..." and is never able to connect. I've had a website > working on a different server before (on the same network) but now it > doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? By the way, I am on a home network and > my DSL subscription allows me to operate websites. IP passthrough to my > server is enabled. > > Thanks, > Ryan > > In /etc/apache2/ports.conf make sure it says: Listen 0.0.0.0:80 or if you're running apache 1.x then it should be in /etc/apache/httpd.conf (IIRC) Also make sure that you have your firewall configured to allow connections to port 80 (if you have a firewall enabled) Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 22 16:51:15 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:51:15 +0000 Subject: adding debian PGP Keys In-Reply-To: <4602A44B.1030306@rmk.co.il> References: <4602A44B.1030306@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <4602B403.2060106@blueyonder.co.uk> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I am trying to install scribus from the debian archives (there is a bug in the > *ubuntu version) per: > http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Getting_Scribus_on_Ubuntu/Kubuntu_up_and_running > > > Using cryptographic repository signatures > > Our repositories are cryptographically signed for added security. Add the gpg-keys > for our repositories to avoid having to confirm your installation choice to the > package manager each time you update a scribus or scribus-ng package. > > New keys > "If you are using our upstream repositories of Debian/Ubuntu Scribus packages you > will notice during your next package upgrade that apt/aptitude complains about not > having the right key. The reason for it is that as of today the key used for > signing our repositories has been changed." by Alex (Malex). > > root$ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF > root$ gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - > > or as a normal user (with an appropriate entry for apt-key in the sudoers file): > > user$ (sudo) gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF > user$ (sudo) gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - > > > But I get an error: > > nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF > Password: > gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' > gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions > gpg: keyserver communications error: general error > gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error > nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - > gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' > gpg: WARNING: nothing exported > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. > > I did try changing the permissions to 'Owner: root Group: root' but ended up with > a different error: > > nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg > --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - > Password: > gpg: requesting key EEF818CF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net > gpg: key EEF818CF: "Scribus Debian Archive Signing Key " not > changed > gpg: Total number processed: 1 > gpg: unchanged: 1 > gpg: failed to create temporary file > `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied > gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/secring.gpg': general error > gpg: failed to create temporary file > `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied > gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': general error > gpg: WARNING: nothing exported > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. > nigel at nigels:~$ > > So how do I add the keys? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > That file (/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf) needs to be owned by YOU, not root, so: sudo chown nigel:nigel /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf and the permissions are so the user can read+write, so sudo chmod 600 /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf Then the commands should work. Tez From barros001 at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 15:56:36 2007 From: barros001 at gmail.com (Carlos Barros) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:56:36 -0300 Subject: Dapper -> Edgy and blank screen after splash In-Reply-To: <46017AFA.7000504@sbcglobal.net> References: <64bb86df0703200732h362a284am192868780941ace3@mail.gmail.com> <46017AFA.7000504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <64bb86df0703220856u229d9c0k8727733e6eb01478@mail.gmail.com> Hi jerry! I cant see what happened in the boot cause I cant switch to any other console.. The computer is running, I can even hit ctr+al+del to reboot, but I cant switch the cosoles. I think something breaks the screen. But you give a hint. I'll try to, blindly, switch to some console, log and do /etc/init.d/kdm stop and see what happens. Maybe I can get my screen back and do some analysis! Thanks On 3/21/07, jerry wrote: > > Carlos Barros wrote: > > Hi list! > > I've upgraded from dapper to edgy last week. Everything > > was fine, but when I rebooted, I get a blank screen > > just after the splash goes away. I can notice that it > > is not a terminal screen (80x25). It remains > > the splash screen conf, but without the logo. I cant > > do anything at this point, just reset or ctrl+alt+del. > > If I remove the splash from grup options, I can > > boot without any problem. Doing some more tests > > I noticed that if I put video=vesafb vga=0x314, I > > get a very big logo in my screen but I can > > boot without problems (but my console is > > with a very low resolution, the chars are very > > big) Another vga= it didnt work cause any other > > value is not valid. > > I have a nvidia card and I'm using the nvidia binary driver > > in X. > > Any one had the same problem?? > > > > Thanks > > Carlos Barros > > > Since no one has responded to you question i thought I might give a try, > but I am by no means an expert with Linux. > > I also lost the splash screen and the scrolling info going by after I > did a kernel recompile. The system does still boot even though nothing > is scrolling by on the screen. You may have to hit Ctrl-D to keep it > going. Did you try to see what is happening during the boot by looking > at the other terminals? Alt-CTRL-F1 to F8. > > I have not figured out out to get the splash back yet but since I only > reboot every few months it is not a very high priority. > > I have a matrox card and can't help with the nvidia. > > Jerry > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 17:30:26 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:30:26 +0200 Subject: Dapper -> Edgy and blank screen after splash In-Reply-To: <64bb86df0703220856u229d9c0k8727733e6eb01478@mail.gmail.com> References: <64bb86df0703200732h362a284am192868780941ace3@mail.gmail.com> <46017AFA.7000504@sbcglobal.net> <64bb86df0703220856u229d9c0k8727733e6eb01478@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703221930.26530.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I cant see what happened in the boot cause I cant switch > to any other console.. Even with Ctrl + Alt + F1 (or F2) ? If not, try rebooting and then go into GRUB as it loads (hit esc) and try the recovery mode. I *think* that drops you into a console. From there try running : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Answer all the questions as best as you can and then try run KDE with: startx > The computer is running, I can even > hit ctr+al+del to reboot, but I cant switch the cosoles. To reboot when you are in trouble like that try: Ctrl + SysRq + R = Raw keyboard mode Ctrl + SysRq + U = Unmount stuff (give it a moment to work) Ctrl + SysRq + B = Reboot. SysRq is the key with "Print Screen" on it. I know it's one heck of a stretch across the keyboard, I use both hands :) hth /d From ryan at ryankaskel.com Thu Mar 22 17:42:46 2007 From: ryan at ryankaskel.com (Ryan Kaskel) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:42:46 -0400 Subject: Help solving web server issues In-Reply-To: <4602B30D.2080402@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4602AFEE.5080206@ryankaskel.com> <4602B30D.2080402@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4602C016.4070809@ryankaskel.com> Tez wrote: > Ryan Kaskel wrote: > >> This problem isn't Kubuntu specific but since I'm using the OS I thought >> this would be a good list to ask on. I have Apache setup and running and >> it works locally (using my domain name). But when an IP other than than >> the one the server is running on tries to access the site the browser >> says "connecting..." and is never able to connect. I've had a website >> working on a different server before (on the same network) but now it >> doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? By the way, I am on a home network and >> my DSL subscription allows me to operate websites. IP passthrough to my >> server is enabled. >> >> Thanks, >> Ryan >> >> >> > In /etc/apache2/ports.conf make sure it says: > Listen 0.0.0.0:80 > > or if you're running apache 1.x then it should be in > /etc/apache/httpd.conf (IIRC) > Also make sure that you have your firewall configured to allow > connections to port 80 (if you have a firewall enabled) > > Tez > > > > Does a firewall come with Kubuntu? Everything is setup correctly it seems...maybe I need to setup an alias IP address for my local network. From barros001 at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 18:35:18 2007 From: barros001 at gmail.com (Carlos Barros) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:35:18 -0300 Subject: Dapper -> Edgy and blank screen after splash In-Reply-To: <200703221930.26530.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <64bb86df0703200732h362a284am192868780941ace3@mail.gmail.com> <46017AFA.7000504@sbcglobal.net> <64bb86df0703220856u229d9c0k8727733e6eb01478@mail.gmail.com> <200703221930.26530.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64bb86df0703221135l693eabcbs95a4cadd4c60626b@mail.gmail.com> On 3/22/07, Donn wrote: > > > I cant see what happened in the boot cause I cant switch > > to any other console.. > Even with Ctrl + Alt + F1 (or F2) ? > > If not, try rebooting and then go into GRUB as it loads (hit esc) and try > the > recovery mode. I *think* that drops you into a console. From there try > running : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg > Answer all the questions as best as you can and then try run KDE with: > startx > > > The computer is running, I can even > > hit ctr+al+del to reboot, but I cant switch the cosoles. > To reboot when you are in trouble like that try: > Ctrl + SysRq + R = Raw keyboard mode > Ctrl + SysRq + U = Unmount stuff (give it a moment to work) > Ctrl + SysRq + B = Reboot. > > SysRq is the key with "Print Screen" on it. I know it's one heck of a > stretch > across the keyboard, I use both hands :) > > hth > /d > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claudiu.vlad at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 19:11:56 2007 From: claudiu.vlad at gmail.com (claudiu) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:11:56 +0200 Subject: Is a G-ForceFX 5200 compatible with Beryl In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703220043m4c8869e8kfbd8c8544232b2f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <460157F2.8050101@oem.doe.gov> <3b27fa9d0703220043m4c8869e8kfbd8c8544232b2f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703222111.57339.claudiu.vlad@gmail.com> Phil, Geforce 5200 can run perfectly with standard nvidia drivers. Anyway you MUST use nvidia drivers, packaged by ubuntu, AND NOT the drivers from www.nvidia.com, so that you won't trash your pc. Cheers, În data de Joi 22 Martie 2007, Phil Bieber a scris: > Hi! > I would think, that as long that you get 3D in general working, there > should be no problem... > I'm using an INTEL onboard chip (INTL GMA 950) which is performing quite > well with Beryl! > Cheers > Philipp Bieber -- ---------- Linux user #412829 From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Mar 22 20:04:18 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:04:18 +0200 Subject: adding debian PGP Keys In-Reply-To: <4602B403.2060106@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4602A44B.1030306@rmk.co.il> <4602B403.2060106@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <4602E142.4080206@rmk.co.il> Tez wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> I am trying to install scribus from the debian archives (there is a bug in the >> *ubuntu version) per: >> http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Getting_Scribus_on_Ubuntu/Kubuntu_up_and_running >> >> >> Using cryptographic repository signatures >> >> Our repositories are cryptographically signed for added security. Add the gpg-keys >> for our repositories to avoid having to confirm your installation choice to the >> package manager each time you update a scribus or scribus-ng package. >> >> New keys >> "If you are using our upstream repositories of Debian/Ubuntu Scribus packages you >> will notice during your next package upgrade that apt/aptitude complains about not >> having the right key. The reason for it is that as of today the key used for >> signing our repositories has been changed." by Alex (Malex). >> >> root$ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF >> root$ gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - >> >> or as a normal user (with an appropriate entry for apt-key in the sudoers file): >> >> user$ (sudo) gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF >> user$ (sudo) gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - >> >> >> But I get an error: >> >> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF >> Password: >> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' >> gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions >> gpg: keyserver communications error: general error >> gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error >> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - >> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' >> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported >> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. >> >> I did try changing the permissions to 'Owner: root Group: root' but ended up with >> a different error: >> >> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg >> --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - >> Password: >> gpg: requesting key EEF818CF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net >> gpg: key EEF818CF: "Scribus Debian Archive Signing Key " not >> changed >> gpg: Total number processed: 1 >> gpg: unchanged: 1 >> gpg: failed to create temporary file >> `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied >> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/secring.gpg': general error >> gpg: failed to create temporary file >> `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied >> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': general error >> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported >> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. >> nigel at nigels:~$ >> >> So how do I add the keys? >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> > That file (/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf) needs to be owned by YOU, not > root, so: > sudo chown nigel:nigel /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf > and the permissions are so the user can read+write, so > sudo chmod 600 /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf > > Then the commands should work. > > Tez > > > No-go :-( nigel at nigels:~$ sudo chown nigel:nigel /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf Password: nigel at nigels:~$ sudo chmod 600 /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions gpg: keyserver communications error: general error gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error OK nigel at nigels:~$ Any other ideas? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 22 21:40:48 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:40:48 +0000 Subject: Help solving web server issues In-Reply-To: <4602C016.4070809@ryankaskel.com> References: <4602AFEE.5080206@ryankaskel.com> <4602B30D.2080402@blueyonder.co.uk> <4602C016.4070809@ryankaskel.com> Message-ID: <4602F7E0.1080009@blueyonder.co.uk> Ryan Kaskel wrote: > Tez wrote: > >> Ryan Kaskel wrote: >> >> >>> This problem isn't Kubuntu specific but since I'm using the OS I thought >>> this would be a good list to ask on. I have Apache setup and running and >>> it works locally (using my domain name). But when an IP other than than >>> the one the server is running on tries to access the site the browser >>> says "connecting..." and is never able to connect. I've had a website >>> working on a different server before (on the same network) but now it >>> doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? By the way, I am on a home network and >>> my DSL subscription allows me to operate websites. IP passthrough to my >>> server is enabled. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ryan >>> >>> >>> >>> >> In /etc/apache2/ports.conf make sure it says: >> Listen 0.0.0.0:80 >> >> or if you're running apache 1.x then it should be in >> /etc/apache/httpd.conf (IIRC) >> Also make sure that you have your firewall configured to allow >> connections to port 80 (if you have a firewall enabled) >> >> Tez >> >> >> >> >> > Does a firewall come with Kubuntu? Everything is setup correctly it > seems...maybe I need to setup an alias IP address for my local network. > > There is a firewall included, but it doesn't block anything by default. Tez From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Mar 22 21:44:53 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:44:53 +0000 Subject: adding debian PGP Keys In-Reply-To: <4602E142.4080206@rmk.co.il> References: <4602A44B.1030306@rmk.co.il> <4602B403.2060106@blueyonder.co.uk> <4602E142.4080206@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <4602F8D5.6010602@blueyonder.co.uk> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Tez wrote: > >> Nigel Ridley wrote: >> >>> I am trying to install scribus from the debian archives (there is a bug in the >>> *ubuntu version) per: >>> http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Getting_Scribus_on_Ubuntu/Kubuntu_up_and_running >>> >>> >>> Using cryptographic repository signatures >>> >>> Our repositories are cryptographically signed for added security. Add the gpg-keys >>> for our repositories to avoid having to confirm your installation choice to the >>> package manager each time you update a scribus or scribus-ng package. >>> >>> New keys >>> "If you are using our upstream repositories of Debian/Ubuntu Scribus packages you >>> will notice during your next package upgrade that apt/aptitude complains about not >>> having the right key. The reason for it is that as of today the key used for >>> signing our repositories has been changed." by Alex (Malex). >>> >>> root$ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF >>> root$ gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - >>> >>> or as a normal user (with an appropriate entry for apt-key in the sudoers file): >>> >>> user$ (sudo) gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF >>> user$ (sudo) gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - >>> >>> >>> But I get an error: >>> >>> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF >>> Password: >>> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' >>> gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions >>> gpg: keyserver communications error: general error >>> gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error >>> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | apt-key add - >>> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' >>> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported >>> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. >>> >>> I did try changing the permissions to 'Owner: root Group: root' but ended up with >>> a different error: >>> >>> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg >>> --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - >>> Password: >>> gpg: requesting key EEF818CF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net >>> gpg: key EEF818CF: "Scribus Debian Archive Signing Key " not >>> changed >>> gpg: Total number processed: 1 >>> gpg: unchanged: 1 >>> gpg: failed to create temporary file >>> `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied >>> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/secring.gpg': general error >>> gpg: failed to create temporary file >>> `/home/nigel/.gnupg/.#lk0x5e0af0.nigels.27113': Permission denied >>> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/nigel/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': general error >>> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported >>> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. >>> nigel at nigels:~$ >>> >>> So how do I add the keys? >>> >>> Blessings, >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> >>> >> That file (/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf) needs to be owned by YOU, not >> root, so: >> sudo chown nigel:nigel /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf >> and the permissions are so the user can read+write, so >> sudo chmod 600 /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf >> >> Then the commands should work. >> >> Tez >> >> >> >> > > No-go :-( > > nigel at nigels:~$ sudo chown nigel:nigel /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf > Password: > nigel at nigels:~$ sudo chmod 600 /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf > nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg > --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - > gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' > gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions > gpg: keyserver communications error: general error > gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error > OK > nigel at nigels:~$ > > Any other ideas? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > Ahh, you're using sudo gpg, drop that sudo, you only need a sudo with the apt-key command. Tez From bonedu at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 22:03:47 2007 From: bonedu at gmail.com (Eduard Bonet) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:03:47 +0100 Subject: Help to configure monitor In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0703211000o72724054u7883add5db9edab3@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e192e060703210825q43ae9b54g346b91016bd0f0e1@mail.gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0703210852k63f04b01t150d175337b6d071@mail.gmail.com> <3e192e060703210945vbd24d43r5dbbe022c33e8886@mail.gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0703211000o72724054u7883add5db9edab3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3e192e060703221503x5f55175ak769b0f96595405cb@mail.gmail.com> 2007/3/21, Phil Bieber : > > Hi! > When I installed my notebook (INTEL GMA950) I only installed it, and > selected my resolution (1440x900) and it worked.... Finally I got it : 1) install packets xserver-xorg-video-intel (i810) 2) install packet 915resolution and follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351647&page=1 4) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 5) reinitiate windows server (ctrl+alt+enrera), ctrl+alt+F1... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Thu Mar 22 22:10:38 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:10:38 -0400 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <200703221223.51935.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221110.19369.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4602533E.2060302@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221223.51935.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4602FEDE.3020101@gatech.edu> Donn wrote: >> fine, thanks for info. And when next LTS is planned to be issued? > No idea. Dapper was a 3 year desktop thing, so what's that? 2009ish? > >> As for your's last paragraph, i do not think so :) Redhat, Canonical are >> commercial organizations, no charity. They compile distributions for >> making money. And I think they should be interested in making update >> procedure as smooth as it possible. > Well, I don't actually know. I'm not at all sure that all the folk who > contribute to the total thing we call "Kubuntu" are being paid to do so. I > could be wrong. Of course they're not. Not all (K)Ubuntu developers are paid, and Ubuntu relies on many unpaid Debian developers, who rely on upstream developers (some unpaid again) ad infinitum. Matt Flaschen From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Mar 22 23:21:34 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:21:34 -0300 Subject: Help solving web server issues References: <4602AFEE.5080206@ryankaskel.com> <4602B30D.2080402@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Tez wrote: > Ryan Kaskel wrote: >> This problem isn't Kubuntu specific but since I'm using the OS I thought >> this would be a good list to ask on. I have Apache setup and running and >> it works locally (using my domain name). But when an IP other than than >> the one the server is running on tries to access the site the browser >> says "connecting..." and is never able to connect. I've had a website >> working on a different server before (on the same network) but now it >> doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? By the way, I am on a home network and >> my DSL subscription allows me to operate websites. IP passthrough to my >> server is enabled. >> >> Thanks, >> Ryan >> >> > In /etc/apache2/ports.conf make sure it says: > Listen 0.0.0.0:80 Listen *:80 works, doesn't it? -- derek From binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Mar 23 00:07:22 2007 From: binary_y2k2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Tez) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:07:22 +0000 Subject: Help solving web server issues In-Reply-To: References: <4602AFEE.5080206@ryankaskel.com> <4602B30D.2080402@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <46031A3A.2060501@blueyonder.co.uk> Derek Broughton wrote: > Tez wrote: > > >> Ryan Kaskel wrote: >> >>> This problem isn't Kubuntu specific but since I'm using the OS I thought >>> this would be a good list to ask on. I have Apache setup and running and >>> it works locally (using my domain name). But when an IP other than than >>> the one the server is running on tries to access the site the browser >>> says "connecting..." and is never able to connect. I've had a website >>> working on a different server before (on the same network) but now it >>> doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? By the way, I am on a home network and >>> my DSL subscription allows me to operate websites. IP passthrough to my >>> server is enabled. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ryan >>> >>> >>> >> In /etc/apache2/ports.conf make sure it says: >> Listen 0.0.0.0:80 >> > > Listen *:80 > > works, doesn't it? > yeah, same thing really. Tez From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Mar 23 02:43:28 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:43:28 +0200 Subject: adding debian PGP Keys In-Reply-To: <4602F8D5.6010602@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4602A44B.1030306@rmk.co.il> <4602B403.2060106@blueyonder.co.uk> <4602E142.4080206@rmk.co.il> <4602F8D5.6010602@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <46033ED0.8000300@rmk.co.il> Tez wrote: > Nigel Ridley wrote: >> Tez wrote: >> >>> Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> >>>> I am trying to install scribus from the debian archives (there is a bug in the >>>> *ubuntu version) per: >>>> http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/Getting_Scribus_on_Ubuntu/Kubuntu_up_and_running >>>> [snip] >>>> >>>> So how do I add the keys? >>>> >>>> Blessings, >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> That file (/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf) needs to be owned by YOU, not >>> root, so: >>> sudo chown nigel:nigel /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf >>> and the permissions are so the user can read+write, so >>> sudo chmod 600 /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf >>> >>> Then the commands should work. >>> >>> Tez >>> >>> >>> >>> >> No-go :-( >> >> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo chown nigel:nigel /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf >> Password: >> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo chmod 600 /home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf >> nigel at nigels:~$ sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg >> --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - >> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/nigel/.gnupg/gpg.conf' >> gpg: external program calls are disabled due to unsafe options file permissions >> gpg: keyserver communications error: general error >> gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error >> OK >> nigel at nigels:~$ >> >> Any other ideas? >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel >> >> > Ahh, you're using sudo gpg, drop that sudo, you only need a sudo with > the apt-key command. > > Tez > That did it :-) nigel at nigels:~$ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys EEF818CF; gpg --armor --export EEF818CF | sudo apt-key add - gpg: requesting key EEF818CF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net gpg: key EEF818CF: "Scribus Debian Archive Signing Key " not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 Password: OK nigel at nigels:~$ Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Fri Mar 23 05:54:04 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:54:04 -0700 Subject: Fouled up display Message-ID: <200703222254.04720.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> I selected a theme when installing KDE it turned out to be not the best decision I've made. is there a simple way to reset the theme to the default? From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 08:13:53 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:13:53 +0200 Subject: Fouled up display In-Reply-To: <200703222254.04720.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <200703222254.04720.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <200703231013.53292.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > is there a simple way to reset the theme to the default? Just tried kde(TAB) at the prompt, this one might help, confuses the heck outta me tho...: kdeinstallktheme Otherwise, there might be a directory someplace under ~/.kde you can rename to force a default theme to load. hth a bit /d From oub at mat.ucm.es Fri Mar 23 11:31:30 2007 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:31:30 +0100 Subject: Where to send the bug reports in kubuntu deb. To debian? Message-ID: <87y7lop565.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Hello Sorry for this elementary question. But it seems that the tcsh shell I just downloaded has a serious bug. While it is relatively clear to whom to send a bug report in Debian, I can't find easily to whom to send the bug reports for that package. To the debian package manager for that package? Thanks Uwe Brauer From stdin at stdin.me.uk Fri Mar 23 12:59:31 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:59:31 +0000 Subject: Where to send the bug reports in kubuntu deb. To debian? In-Reply-To: <87y7lop565.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87y7lop565.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Message-ID: <4603CF33.3020807@stdin.me.uk> Uwe Brauer wrote: > Hello > > Sorry for this elementary question. But it seems that the tcsh shell I > just downloaded has a serious bug. While it is relatively clear to > whom to send a bug report in Debian, I can't find easily to whom to > send the bug reports for that package. To the debian package manager > for that package? > > Thanks > > Uwe Brauer > > > > Bug reports are on launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu You can jump right to the bug filing section here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug Tez From vitus at alter-schwede.de Thu Mar 22 22:37:14 2007 From: vitus at alter-schwede.de (Vitus Jensen) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:37:14 +0100 Subject: KMail References: <200703201107.51018.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Derek Broughton wrote: > eric wrote: > >> I have to restart KMail after waking up from hibernation, otherwise the >> folders do not load. > > Very true. You can kill all the kio-imap slaves (ps aux | grep > kio_imap4), but that's not pretty. ... If you switch KMail to offline-mode before suspending you don't have to do that. At least this works for me (Dapper Drake). Bye, Vitus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAwUltSDdbxQoLLsRAgj1AJ9nUIT6GcEIGuoaLpZpaB0uF7DGEgCgtLBF VjbijynwM7YvFWn0+AXHLLM= =R0wF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ansari.farid at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 14:33:41 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:33:41 +0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <200703221245.29383.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221741.42972.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <27b81ea70703220903j364dcac7n345099feff240a56@mail.gmail.com> <200703221245.29383.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703230733i64b7c0ecs30ab540eb35f940a@mail.gmail.com> *I followed the instructions about adding the repositories and then asked for a full upgrade. All I got was ' one upgrade available ' and KDE 3.5.6was not given to me, also after getting the upgrade I still get the same message and the same upgrade.* *Kindly advise.* Farid Ansari On 3/22/07, Clay Weber wrote: > > On Thu March 22 2007 12:03:51 pm Farid Ansari wrote: > > *Will someone please advise how to upgrade KDE 3.5.5 to KDE 3.5.6.* > > *I am so very anxious to do this upgrade but am not able to because I am > a > > newbie with Linux based distro's.* > > *Any assistance given will be highly appreciated.* > > *Farid Ansari* > > *Karachi, Pakistan > > * > > > > Basically you need to add a repository to your sources.list, info on what > to > add can be found here: > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php > > How to add repositories: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu > To add the 3.5.6 repo, follow the section on "Adding Canonical Commercial > Repositories" and substitute one of the repositories listed in my first > link. > > Then 'fetch updates' and then do a 'full upgrade' > > > -- > Clay Weber > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://claydoh.com > http://emacdogsports.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Fri Mar 23 14:36:50 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:36:50 -0600 Subject: Adept failure Message-ID: <200703230836.50250.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> I am trying to use Adept on Kubuntu Edgy and get the following error message: Database Locked - Adept Installer. Another process is using the packaging system database (probably Adept or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one. I don't have anything else open. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Arthur From rscrawford at mossroot.com Fri Mar 23 14:51:35 2007 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:51:35 -0700 Subject: Adept failure In-Reply-To: <200703230836.50250.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> References: <200703230836.50250.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <200703230751.35362.rscrawford@mossroot.com> On Friday 23 March 2007 07:36:50 Arthur Dyck wrote: > I am trying to use Adept on Kubuntu Edgy and get the following error > message: > > Database Locked - Adept Installer. Another process is using the packaging > system database (probably Adept or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the > other application before using this one. > > I don't have anything else open. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Arthur Execute: $ ps -aux | grep adept to see what other Adept processes might be running, then kill those processes with sudo kill. Adept can be a slippery little bugger at times, and leave a process running in the background, even if you don't have one running on your desktop. Once you've killed the process, run: $ sudo apt-get update Chances are, you will get an error message; and broken adept process is liable to leave your apt database a bit broken. If so, execute: $ sudo dpkg --configure -a (or whatever the previous command showed you, if anything) to clear things up. Good luck. -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) Editor In Chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) AIM: Buffalo2K / GTalk: underpope at gmail.com "You can't trust your judgement when your imagination is out of focus." (Mark Twain) From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 15:01:03 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Adept failure In-Reply-To: <200703230836.50250.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <870300.95404.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Arthur Dyck wrote: > I am trying to use Adept on Kubuntu Edgy and get the following > error message: > > Database Locked - Adept Installer. Another process is using the > packaging > system database (probably Adept or apt-get or aptitude). Please > close the > other application before using this one. > > I don't have anything else open. Any suggestions would be > appreciated. > For some reason this happens to me once in a while too. Run "ps aux" from the command line as sudo. See if there is either a adept or apt or aptitude process running and kill it from the command line. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri Mar 23 15:05:40 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:05:40 -0400 Subject: KDE 3.5.6 Upgrade was: Re: [kubuntu-users] Re: [kubuntu-users] Kubuntu distribution packages In-Reply-To: <27b81ea70703230733i64b7c0ecs30ab540eb35f940a@mail.gmail.com> References: <45FE705C.7040003@mail.nnov.ru> <200703221245.29383.claydoh@midmaine.com> <27b81ea70703230733i64b7c0ecs30ab540eb35f940a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703231105.40621.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Fri March 23 2007 10:33:41 am Farid Ansari wrote: > *I followed the instructions about adding the repositories and then asked > for a full upgrade. All I got was ' one upgrade available ' and KDE > 3.5.6was not given to me, also after getting the upgrade I still get > the same > message and the same upgrade.* > *Kindly advise.* > > Farid Ansari > > On 3/22/07, Clay Weber wrote: > > On Thu March 22 2007 12:03:51 pm Farid Ansari wrote: > > > *Will someone please advise how to upgrade KDE 3.5.5 to KDE 3.5.6.* > > > *I am so very anxious to do this upgrade but am not able to because I > > > am > > > > a > > > > > newbie with Linux based distro's.* > > > *Any assistance given will be highly appreciated.* > > > *Farid Ansari* > > > *Karachi, Pakistan > > > * > > > > Basically you need to add a repository to your sources.list, info on what > > to > > add can be found here: > > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php > > > > How to add repositories: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu > > To add the 3.5.6 repo, follow the section on "Adding Canonical Commercial > > Repositories" and substitute one of the repositories listed in my first > > link. > > > > Then 'fetch updates' and then do a 'full upgrade' > > > > > A couple of questions then: Did you 'fetch updates' in Adept? This will update the list of packages to include the ones from the new repository Which version of Kubuntu are you using? 3.5.6 is only available in Edgy Eft 6.10 and in Feisty Fawn (in development) - I should have asked that to begin with :) If 'fetch updates' still produces the same result, please post here the results of these two commands in a terminal window (Main Menu - System - Konsole) sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade if there are any errors they will be shown here. And then open the file /etc/apt/sources.list and copy the contents and put them here as well -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From claydoh at midmaine.com Fri Mar 23 15:06:00 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:06:00 -0400 Subject: Adept failure In-Reply-To: <200703230836.50250.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> References: <200703230836.50250.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <200703231106.00110.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Fri March 23 2007 10:36:50 am Arthur Dyck wrote: > I am trying to use Adept on Kubuntu Edgy and get the following error > message: > > Database Locked - Adept Installer. Another process is using the packaging > system database (probably Adept or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the > other application before using this one. > > I don't have anything else open. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Arthur In a Konsole window, try running this command to finish any package installs that may have not completed: sudo dpkg --configure -a if that does not fix it, then run the command: sudo apt-get upgrade this will give an error and will specify the lock file that is causing this problem. A lock file is present to prevent two different package managers running at the same time, and sometimes one gets left behind in a crash or something. To delete this, since you are already in a konsole window, try this: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock substitute whatever filepath is in the error. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 15:10:07 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: VNC on Kubuntu problem Message-ID: <935595.78562.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have converted to Linux. However, my problem is with my girlfriend who is afraid to try Kubuntu on her computer. She has heard horror stories about Linux eating Windows in a dual boot situation. I set up a computer running Kubuntu Dapper and installed tightVNC on both her Windows computer and my Kubuntu box. It works fine when I log into Kubuntu. She can work with no problem. She can not, however, log into her own account as the login screen doesn't show. Apparently TightVNC isn't activated until after logging in. My problem though is, how do I set up my Kubuntu machine so she can log in over the network? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Mar 23 15:19:06 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:19:06 -0300 Subject: KMail References: <200703201107.51018.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: Vitus Jensen wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> eric wrote: >> >>> I have to restart KMail after waking up from hibernation, otherwise the >>> folders do not load. >> >> Very true. You can kill all the kio-imap slaves (ps aux | grep >> kio_imap4), but that's not pretty. > ... > > If you switch KMail to offline-mode before suspending you don't have to do > that. At least this works for me (Dapper Drake). That seems to work when it's doing POP retrieval (in edgy), but not for IMAP, ime. I'll give it another try next time, I suspend, though. -- derek From jriddell at ubuntu.com Fri Mar 23 15:32:17 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:32:17 +0000 Subject: [kubuntu-users] qtparted problems In-Reply-To: <200703212234.06126.jjesse@iserv.net> References: <200703212234.06126.jjesse@iserv.net> Message-ID: <20070323153217.GA3789@muse.19inch.net> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:34:05PM -0400, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > I have a large drive (100 GB SATA drive) that I am dual booting Windows and > Kubuntu w/. I would like to use some of the drive as a paritition that I > could access both from Windows and Kubuntu. So I started up QTParted and > used my password for sudo access and I can't create the partition. I'd recommend using gparted rather than qtparted, it's far more reliable. Jonathan From einfall at mac.com Fri Mar 23 15:53:41 2007 From: einfall at mac.com (eric) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:53:41 -0500 Subject: KMail In-Reply-To: References: <200703201107.51018.einfall@mac.com> Message-ID: <200703231053.41510.einfall@mac.com> Kmail has been working well enough since I removed the 'bogofilter' option in settings. This was causing the continuous loading and reloading of message in the folders, as well as duplicates. As far as restarting KMail, I can tolerate this until its developed further - the other issue I could not, so thanks for the help resolving it. e On Friday 23 March 2007 10:19, Derek Broughton wrote: > Vitus Jensen wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> eric wrote: > >>> I have to restart KMail after waking up from hibernation, otherwise the > >>> folders do not load. > >> > >> Very true. You can kill all the kio-imap slaves (ps aux | grep > >> kio_imap4), but that's not pretty. > > > > ... > > > > If you switch KMail to offline-mode before suspending you don't have to > > do that. At least this works for me (Dapper Drake). > > That seems to work when it's doing POP retrieval (in edgy), but not for > IMAP, ime. I'll give it another try next time, I suspend, though. > -- > derek From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Fri Mar 23 16:11:53 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:11:53 -0600 Subject: Adept failure In-Reply-To: <200703231101.46925.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <200703230836.50250.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> <200703231101.46925.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <200703231011.53591.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Your first suggestion did the trick. As a newbie I really appreciate you folks out there who are willing to take the time to help people out of a jam. I hope I'll be able to do the same some day. Arthur On Friday 23 March 2007 09:01, claydoh wrote: > On Fri March 23 2007 10:36:50 am Arthur Dyck wrote: > > I am trying to use Adept on Kubuntu Edgy and get the following error > > message: > > > > Database Locked - Adept Installer. Another process is using the > > packaging system database (probably Adept or apt-get or aptitude). > > Please close the other application before using this one. > > > > I don't have anything else open. Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > Arthur > > In a Konsole window, try running this command to finish any package > installs that may have not completed: > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > if that does not fix it, then run the command: > sudo apt-get upgrade > > this will give an error and will specify the lock file that is causing this > problem. A lock file is present to prevent two different package managers > running at the same time, and sometimes one gets left behind in a crash or > something. > To delete this, since you are already in a konsole window, try this: > > sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock > substitute whatever filepath is in the error. From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 16:14:25 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kubuntu-users] qtparted problems In-Reply-To: <20070323153217.GA3789@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <932649.6081.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 10:34:05PM -0400, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > I have a large drive (100 GB SATA drive) that I am dual booting > Windows and > > Kubuntu w/. I would like to use some of the drive as a > paritition that I > > could access both from Windows and Kubuntu. So I started up > QTParted and > > used my password for sudo access and I can't create the > partition. > > I'd recommend using gparted rather than qtparted, it's far more > reliable. > > Jonathan The gparted live CD is extremely reliable and easy to use. FAT32 works great as a format for shared partitions. I'd recommend leaving some free space so you can expand partitions later if need be. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Mar 23 16:36:34 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Adept failure In-Reply-To: <200703231011.53591.arthur@avefoodcoop.ca> Message-ID: <236738.31963.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Arthur Dyck wrote: > Your first suggestion did the trick. As a newbie I really > appreciate you > folks out there who are willing to take the time to help people out > of a jam. > I hope I'll be able to do the same some day. > > Arthur Arthur, Asking questions contributes to the cause. I find that I learn different and often better ways to do something than my previous methods by reading others' questions and answers. It also helps when you do as you did and post that something did work. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From geraldi.evenden at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 17:49:10 2007 From: geraldi.evenden at gmail.com (Gerald I. Evenden) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:49:10 -0400 Subject: An ugly problem with postgresql Message-ID: <200703231349.10818.geraldi.evenden@gmail.com> After my previous hassles with postgresql installation were resolved and the system seemed to be running properly I ran into a *very* nasty problem that flies in the face of acceptable practice of MySQL and presumably Access: It seems that the COPY command prohibits any null field input to any numeric type column. That pretty well wipes out any chance of installing a database with over 500,000 lines input data. My only comment is that any column that is not qualified as "NOT NULL" shall accept a null input field regardless of type. Period. No debate. Sorry, this is not a kubuntu problem. Just venting. -- The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum. -- Havelock Ellis (1859-1939) British psychologist From POD69 at gmx.net Fri Mar 23 20:30:17 2007 From: POD69 at gmx.net (POD69 at gmx.net) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:30:17 +0100 Subject: Cant install Kubuntu 7.04 Beta Message-ID: <20070323203017.20050@gmx.net> Hello I tried to update edgy to feisty but after the update I couldnt boot feisty - so as just Kubuntu 7.04 Beta was released I downloaded it and wanted to install it on my Toshiba Tecra S3 Notebook, but the hard disk wasnt found by the installation cd so I dont know how to install feisty? With edgy I had no problems during the installation process and the hard disk was found? thx peter -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: www.gmx.net/de/go/mailfooter/topmail-out From kubuntu at pusspaws.net Fri Mar 23 20:35:57 2007 From: kubuntu at pusspaws.net (Dave S) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:35:57 +0000 Subject: cant find source package - hopefull developer Message-ID: <200703232035.58209.kubuntu@pusspaws.net> Hi all, Having written a successfull python GUI app I am learning C++ with the aim of helping with kubuntu bug fixes. Starting small I want to get the source of 'konserve' so I can play with it, compile it and fix the GUI applet bug - a bug reported by me :) I booted adept but cannot find the source package - all I can find is the binary package. My sources.list contains the source repositories ... .... # Edgy Final Release Repository deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy restricted deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse # Edgy Security Updates deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security restricted deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security universe deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security multiverse .... Can anyone tell me how I can download the 'konserve' source package. I could download from the konserve site but it will be a later version and so I cannot feed my (hopefully successfull) patching back to kubuntu. Many thanks Dave From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 23 20:42:19 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:42:19 -0400 Subject: cant find source package - hopefull developer In-Reply-To: <200703232035.58209.kubuntu@pusspaws.net> References: <200703232035.58209.kubuntu@pusspaws.net> Message-ID: <46043BAB.7010403@gatech.edu> Dave S wrote: > Can anyone tell me how I can download the 'konserve' source package. I could > download from the konserve site but it will be a later version and so I > cannot feed my (hopefully successfull) patching back to kubuntu. As far as I know, Adept doesn't provide a way to access source packages. On the command-line, try: mkdir konserve cd konserve apt-get source konserve That should get you set up. Good luck. Matthew Flaschen From knightlust at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 21:27:23 2007 From: knightlust at gmail.com (Dax Solomon Umaming) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:27:23 +0800 Subject: VNC on Kubuntu problem In-Reply-To: <935595.78562.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <935595.78562.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703240527.34985.knightlust@gmail.com> On Friday 23 March 2007 23:10:07 Earl Violet wrote: > I have converted to Linux. However, my problem is with my girlfriend > who is afraid to try Kubuntu on her computer. She has heard horror > stories about Linux eating Windows in a dual boot situation. I set > up a computer running Kubuntu Dapper and installed tightVNC on both > her Windows computer and my Kubuntu box. It works fine when I log > into Kubuntu. She can work with no problem. She can not, however, > log into her own account as the login screen doesn't show. > Apparently TightVNC isn't activated until after logging in. > > My problem though is, how do I set up my Kubuntu machine so she can > log in over the network? > > Earl You can try setting up TightVNC as a service. Here's a very good step-by-step tutorial by paperdiesel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 Hope this helps. -- Dax Solomon Umaming http://knightlust.com knightlust at gmail.com GPG Key: 0xEDE9C473 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From ed.lau at mail.ee Sat Mar 24 07:44:22 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:44:22 +0200 Subject: VNC on Kubuntu problem In-Reply-To: <200703240527.34985.knightlust@gmail.com> References: <935595.78562.qm@web39601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703240527.34985.knightlust@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4604D6D6.2090907@mail.ee> >> I have converted to Linux. However, my problem is with my girlfriend >> who is afraid to try Kubuntu on her computer. She has heard horror >> stories about Linux eating Windows in a dual boot situation. I set >> up a computer running Kubuntu Dapper and installed tightVNC on both >> her Windows computer and my Kubuntu box. It works fine when I log >> into Kubuntu. She can work with no problem. She can not, however, >> log into her own account as the login screen doesn't show. >> Apparently TightVNC isn't activated until after logging in. >> >> My problem though is, how do I set up my Kubuntu machine so she can >> log in over the network? > > You can try setting up TightVNC as a service. > Here's a very good step-by-step tutorial by paperdiesel: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259448 Also you may use x11vnc. I use and it works like a charm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/x11vnc From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Mar 25 01:43:16 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:43:16 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu On PowerMac G4? Message-ID: <20070325024316.0fb2192f@localhost.localdomain> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have just been bequeathed a PowerMac G4. The machine has been refurbished in the past year and has 1G of ram inside, with an 80G hard drive but I don't know much more about it than that. Will Kubuntu install on the PowerMac G4? Or do I have to add something else first? Can anybody point me to any How-Tos covering Kubuntu running on a PowerMac? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. - -- Graham ^:y:^ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Please sign and encrypt for internet privacy iD8DBQFGBdO0k/lTyNG98YcRAqXzAKCs+/w6UQ8KHsqkGidTIiAs3wK4QwCfdhCN v8ow8tkMN+wNlPzd1V/8Y0k= =ii1Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 25 02:00:07 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:00:07 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu On PowerMac G4? In-Reply-To: <20070325024316.0fb2192f@localhost.localdomain> References: <20070325024316.0fb2192f@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4605D7A7.1060605@gatech.edu> Graham wrote: > I have just been bequeathed a PowerMac G4. The machine has been > refurbished in the past year and has 1G of ram inside, with an 80G hard > drive but I don't know much more about it than that. > > Will Kubuntu install on the PowerMac G4? Or do I have to add something > else first? Can anybody point me to any How-Tos covering Kubuntu > running on a PowerMac? Yes, I believe so (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/PowerPC?highlight=%28PowerPC%29), but have not personally tested. However, you should be aware that Canonical has discontinued official support for the PowerPC version (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html) beginning with Feisty. Matthew Flaschen From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sun Mar 25 07:19:21 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:19:21 +0200 Subject: suspending methods Message-ID: Hi all, Since suspending to ram does not work properly for my laptop, I would like to try changing the suspending method. Any documentations on the available methods (suspend2, swsusp, uswsusp) ? By the way, how to tell kdm and klaptop daemon which method to use? thank you -- Pol From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sun Mar 25 07:32:03 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:32:03 +0200 Subject: kernel build... howtos don't help In-Reply-To: <87d52zjvkq.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <45FBD30D.6040307@wanadoo.fr> <87d52zjvkq.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <46062573.6050709@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I followed this guide : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild Which was telling to use this command : AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs And it gave me the error I mentionned... Anyway : I succeeded in compiling only a (external) module for the kernel and sent an email about a rough guide I created on an Ubuntu wiki (subject : Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors))... I don't see this mail in my kubuntu-users@[...] list folder, I'm wondering if it was really sent ? Cheers John L Fjellstad a écrit : > Fred Schaer writes: > > >> Whenever I try to compile this 2.6.20 kernel using the new "debian way" >> (the debian/rules thing), I get the following error : >> >> ****** >> [lots of things] >> ====== making target build [new prereqs: stamp-build]====== >> sed: can't read Module.symvers: No such file or directory >> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/ubuntu-2.6/debian/build/build-386' >> Checking module listings... >> >> Modules have gone missing: >> >> [all modules to build listed here] >> >> Will not continue! >> make: *** [build] Erreur 1 >> ****** >> > > What's the new debian way? What is the exact command you used? > > From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sun Mar 25 07:36:30 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:36:30 +0200 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors) Message-ID: <4606267E.3050808@wanadoo.fr> (It seems to me my first email did not reach the list - Sorry If double posting) Hi, I found a way to compile the coretemp patch/module for the actual (2.6.17) edgy kernel... That way, you don't have to compile a custom kernel (you would still have to patch it if you intended to have C2D temperature support). I created a wiki page here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CoreTemp Please feel free to comment on this :) Cheers From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sun Mar 25 07:43:34 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:43:34 +0200 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature Message-ID: <46062826.5000102@wanadoo.fr> (It seems to me my first and second emails did not reach the list... why ??? - Sorry If double posting) Hi, I found a way to compile the coretemp patch/module for the actual (2.6.17) edgy kernel... That way, you don't have to compile a custom kernel (you would still have to patch it if you intended to have C2D temperature support). I created a wiki page here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CoreTemp Please feel free to comment on this :) Cheers From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sun Mar 25 08:49:00 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 04:49:00 -0400 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature In-Reply-To: <46062826.5000102@wanadoo.fr> References: <46062826.5000102@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <4606377C.9070304@gatech.edu> Fred Schaer wrote: > (It seems to me my first and second emails did not reach the list... why > ??? - Sorry If double posting) Got it. Matt Flaschen From gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Mar 25 09:31:50 2007 From: gct3 at blueyonder.co.uk (Graham) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:31:50 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu On PowerMac G4? In-Reply-To: <4605D7A7.1060605@gatech.edu> References: <20070325024316.0fb2192f@localhost.localdomain> <4605D7A7.1060605@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <20070325103150.3b26dfda@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:00:07 -0400 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Yes, I believe so > (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/PowerPC?highlight=%28PowerPC%29), > but have not personally tested. However, you should be aware that > Canonical has discontinued official support for the PowerPC version > (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2007-February/000098.html) > beginning with Feisty. > > Matthew Flaschen Thanks for that Matthew. I don't need to update from Edgy to Fiesty just yet, so that should be OK. Thanks for the quick answer! -- Graham ^:y:^ From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 13:00:24 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:00:24 -0400 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors) In-Reply-To: <4606267E.3050808@wanadoo.fr> References: <4606267E.3050808@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <46067268.3050609@gmail.com> Your emails are getting through, Fred. We found out a few weeks ago that if you use gmail and the pop facility, you don't get copies of your own emails. Bit annoying, that. stew Fred Schaer wrote: > (It seems to me my first email did not reach the list - Sorry If double > posting) > > Hi, > > I found a way to compile the coretemp patch/module for the actual > (2.6.17) edgy kernel... > That way, you don't have to compile a custom kernel (you would still > have to patch it if you intended to have C2D temperature support). > > I created a wiki page here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CoreTemp > > Please feel free to comment on this :) > Cheers > > > > From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sun Mar 25 14:02:49 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:02:49 +0100 Subject: Kboincspy problem Message-ID: <46068109.6030603@tiscali.co.uk> I run several BOINC projects on my computer. This morning, I awoke to find that my broadband connection had dropped and I ended up having to boot to get it to work again (ppp0 doesn't appear in my Network Manager for some reason....) Anyway, now most of the menus in kboincspy are greyed out and the boinc-client isn't running. When I manually start the client, kboincspy doesn't seem to connect (hence the greyed out menus). Any idea what I can do to get things back? Linux localhost 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux Kubuntu Edgy -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 15:27:34 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (Lantiero Zenesi) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:27:34 +0200 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors) In-Reply-To: <46067268.3050609@gmail.com> References: <4606267E.3050808@wanadoo.fr> <46067268.3050609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703251727.34842.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On 25/03/2007 at 15:00, Stew Schneider wrote: > Your emails are getting through, Fred. We found out a few weeks ago that > if you use gmail and the pop facility, you don't get copies of your own > emails. > > Bit annoying, that. Indeed! You got to use a different smtp, not gmail's. It's very inconvenient. I wonder if they could correct this. -- lanzen From jeff_yowell at cox.net Sun Mar 25 15:53:23 2007 From: jeff_yowell at cox.net (Jeff Yowell) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:53:23 -0500 Subject: Dapper Shutdown Freezes Message-ID: <43FDE400-9CC1-4845-841F-D2FE19F4DFAC@cox.net> I upgraded from Breezy to Dapper and everything works fine except when I logout, it freezes on the splash screen. Does anyone know how to fix this? ---------------------------------- Jeff Yowell jeff_yowell at cox.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 16:34:34 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:34:34 +0200 Subject: Dapper Shutdown Freezes In-Reply-To: <43FDE400-9CC1-4845-841F-D2FE19F4DFAC@cox.net> References: <43FDE400-9CC1-4845-841F-D2FE19F4DFAC@cox.net> Message-ID: <200703251834.34841.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > when I logout, it freezes on the splash screen. Does anyone know how > to fix this? Sounds like X is getting stuck. I get this kind of thing - esp if my nvidia drivers are not a good mood. Check the various logs like ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/messages for any overt error messages. You could also try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a console, login and go from there: 1. To shutdown: sudo shutdown -h now 2. To reboot: sudo reboot 3. To try X again: startx (and then watch the output for errors) 4. To see what's running (and hanging) : ps aux 5. To kill stuff : killall hth a bit, /d From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sun Mar 25 17:27:33 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:27:33 +0200 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors) In-Reply-To: <200703251727.34842.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <4606267E.3050808@wanadoo.fr> <46067268.3050609@gmail.com> <200703251727.34842.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4606B105.9050208@wanadoo.fr> Ah... damn! If [ I cant use my ISP SMTP && using gmail's smtp is not cool ]; then if [ using my own sendmail or SMTP does not work (I guess) ]; then maybe easiest is to find another ISP fi fi exit 2 ;) OK thanks for explaining :) Fred Lantiero Zenesi a écrit : > On 25/03/2007 at 15:00, Stew Schneider wrote: > > >> Your emails are getting through, Fred. We found out a few weeks ago that >> if you use gmail and the pop facility, you don't get copies of your own >> emails. >> >> Bit annoying, that. >> > > Indeed! > You got to use a different smtp, not gmail's. It's very inconvenient. > I wonder if they could correct this. > > From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Mar 25 18:43:30 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:43:30 +0200 Subject: Xerox Phaser 6110 color laser printer ? Message-ID: <4606C2D2.3080208@rmk.co.il> I'm thinking of buying a color laser printer but can't afford so much. Has anyone has any experience with the Xerox Phaser 6110? I have checked it out on http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting (merged with linuxprinting) and it seems to work OK. I also noticed on the Xerox website they have 'PPD Files for Linux operating system' [http://www.support.xerox.com/go/results.asp?Xtype=download&prodID=6110&Xlang=en_US&Xcntry=USA&prodName=Phaser%206110] Any suggestions or thoughts? Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From ed.lau at mail.ee Sun Mar 25 21:05:36 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:05:36 +0300 Subject: Xerox Phaser 6110 color laser printer ? In-Reply-To: <4606C2D2.3080208@rmk.co.il> References: <4606C2D2.3080208@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <4606E420.7050005@mail.ee> > I'm thinking of buying a color laser printer but can't afford so much. > Has anyone has any experience with the Xerox Phaser 6110? > > I have checked it out on http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting (merged > with linuxprinting) and it seems to work OK. > I also noticed on the Xerox website they have 'PPD Files for Linux operating > system' > [http://www.support.xerox.com/go/results.asp?Xtype=download&prodID=6110&Xlang=en_US&Xcntry=USA&prodName=Phaser%206110] > > Any suggestions or thoughts? I have Samsung ML-1710P and it also have Linux drivers from Samsung and also opensource version is included by default. I would like to use Linksys PSUS4 USB printserver. Under Windows it is working like a charm but not in Linux. Sometimes I got it working (under Kubuntu 6.06) but suddenly it stops working and no idea, where to look problems :( I installed Samsung Unified Linux Driver, tried several PPD-s but nothing. Today I tried the same printer and printserver under Fedora Core 6 - did not worked. I turned off firewall and SELinux - didn't help. I installed Fedora Core 6 under VM Ware - perhaps this were problem, who knows. It seems like Samsung and its proprietary GDI would be problem. But Samsung itself provides driver for Linux - why it is not working? It seems like it doesn't like my Linux or CUPS version, who knows... Second situation - HP LaserJet 6P and TrendNet printserver (don't remember model) at my workplace is working like a charm under Kubuntu 6.06... Third situation - I have color laser at work Konica-Minolta 2450DL. Manufacturer provides at its homepage special PPD for Linux. And it works! I use same Kubuntu 6.06 Linux. At home I also have quite often hangs at logout or shutdown. Even SysRq keys does not help... I use ATI fglrx driver. But this is already another theme. One of my problems may also be concerned, that I use kubuntu.org packages for KDE 3.5.5. Jonathan Riddel warned me, that it may not be good idea to use kubuntu.org packages in mission critical systems. Well, next try I will use only official packages. It seems like I will try Ubuntu 7.04 when it comes out. Or perhaps I should wait half year to be sure they have most critical errors fixed... It seems like when there is next version of Ubuntu coming out, then previous version establishes stable status. Hopefully this stable status will be established earlier in future versions, perhaps already with 7.04 :) Therefore I should still have Windows installed on another partition to get printed, what I need :( Is this really that "Enterprise Ready", what Canonical, Ltd. means? By the way - does anybody know, when will come out next Long Term Support version of Ubuntu? Or was 6.06 the only one? I hope, that the next LTS version will be more ready than 6.06. Everything is under development and in one beautiful day it works. I hope... My conclusion - if you have some printer, what uses specific printing language (e.g. Samsung GDI), then it probalby will not work. If you have PCL or Postscript printer - then you may have hope, it will work. I found Xerox Phaser 6110 at here - http://www.office.xerox.com/printers/color-printers/phaser-6110/enus.html There I see: Linux Print and Scan Driver Version: 1.0 Date: 10/26/2006 Size: 27.5MB Language: English (US) PPD Files for Linux operating system Well - this driver should work. When I look to Linuxprinting database, I see: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Xerox-Phaser_6110 There is one link to the http://foo2qpdl.rkkda.com/ When I open this webpage, I see: *** DON'T USE the foo2zjs package from Ubuntu, SUSE, Mandrake/Mandriva, Debian, RedHat, or Gentoo! *** Download it here and follow the directions below. Well - I hope, these instructions and driver from this page would help you. Let us know about results. It is quite disturbing to compile whole stuff yourself but it seems like it's destiny for Linux users... Best Regards, Edmund Laugasson From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 21:36:17 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:36:17 -0500 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors) In-Reply-To: <4606B105.9050208@wanadoo.fr> References: <4606267E.3050808@wanadoo.fr> <200703251727.34842.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <4606B105.9050208@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <200703251636.17814.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Sunday 25 March 2007 12:27:33 pm Fred Schaer wrote: > Ah... damn! > > If [ I cant use my ISP SMTP && using gmail's smtp is not cool ]; then > if [ using my own sendmail or SMTP does not work (I guess) ]; then > maybe easiest is to find another ISP > fi > fi > exit 2 ;) > > OK thanks for explaining :) > > Fred > > Lantiero Zenesi a écrit : > > On 25/03/2007 at 15:00, Stew Schneider wrote: > >> Your emails are getting through, Fred. We found out a few weeks ago that > >> if you use gmail and the pop facility, you don't get copies of your own > >> emails. > >> > >> Bit annoying, that. > > > > Indeed! > > You got to use a different smtp, not gmail's. It's very inconvenient. > > I wonder if they could correct this. I use gmail for the list, and what I do is set a specific folder in KMail to hold the list, and set the properties to leave all replies in the folder. If I send an email by creating a new thread I copy the sent item to the list's folder. This way I have a copy of what I've sent, otherwise I'll never get one. However, if you think your messages aren't getting through, its a bit of a hassle. You have to go online and look through the archives. I'm not sure why gmail works that way, but I'm guessing it sees the message you sent, and the message you get back from the list as the same message and just discards the duplicate. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From jeff_yowell at cox.net Sun Mar 25 23:28:16 2007 From: jeff_yowell at cox.net (Jeff Yowell) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:28:16 -0500 Subject: Dapper Shutdown Freezes In-Reply-To: <200703251834.34841.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <43FDE400-9CC1-4845-841F-D2FE19F4DFAC@cox.net> <200703251834.34841.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1BDE2795-BC51-46EB-B39B-4C916EE6534F@cox.net> Thank you. I'll try those things. On Mar 25, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Donn wrote: >> when I logout, it freezes on the splash screen. Does anyone know how >> to fix this? > Sounds like X is getting stuck. I get this kind of thing - esp if > my nvidia > drivers are not a good mood. Check the various logs like > ~/.xsession-errors > and /var/log/messages for any overt error messages. > You could also try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a console, login and go > from there: > 1. To shutdown: sudo shutdown -h now > 2. To reboot: sudo reboot > 3. To try X again: startx (and then watch the output for errors) > 4. To see what's running (and hanging) : ps aux > 5. To kill stuff : killall > > hth a bit, > /d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/kubuntu-users From daniel at rimspace.net Sun Mar 25 23:37:34 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:37:34 +1000 Subject: Xerox Phaser 6110 color laser printer ? References: <4606C2D2.3080208@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <87r6rcuc75.fsf@rimspace.net> Nigel Ridley writes: > I'm thinking of buying a color laser printer but can't afford so much. > Has anyone has any experience with the Xerox Phaser 6110? No, but I do have experience with their earlier colour laser and wax printers, all of which work just fine with Linux -- and everything else. As a rule the Phaser stuff is Adobe PostScript through and through, so assuming they list that as a bullet point feature on the 6110 you can be absolutely comfortable that *every* feature of the hardware is fully available to Linux. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From olli at tammilehto.info Mon Mar 26 09:06:18 2007 From: olli at tammilehto.info (Olli Tammilehto) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:06:18 +0300 Subject: After upgrade the sound system ceased to work In-Reply-To: <45FFB2F2.9020800@tammilehto.info> References: <45FFB2F2.9020800@tammilehto.info> Message-ID: <46078D0A.6000905@tammilehto.info> Hi everybody, I am little disappointed that no one has replied to my message below. Here I provide some additional information - maybe this makes answering a bit easier. aplay -l -command gives the followind output: **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: V8235 [VIA 8235], device 0: VIA 8235 [VIA 8235] Subdevices: 4/4 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 Subdevice #2: subdevice #2 Subdevice #3: subdevice #3 card 0: V8235 [VIA 8235], device 1: VIA 8235 [VIA 8235] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 It seems that my VIA-soundcard is installed twice. Is this the problem? How could I correct it? Olli T. Olli Tammilehto kirjoitti: > Hi, > Last autumn I upgraded Breezy to Dapper. For my disappointment the Ars > sound system stopped to work. No system sounds and most sound > applications do not function. For example Amarok opens but gives no > sound, it freezes and must be stopped by killing the process. I can play > music through XMMS but even then sound quality is not good: it is choppy > - about evey 10 seconds the sound flow is interrupted for some milliseconds. > In Breezy the sound system worked perfectly. I tested recently the > Breezy by live CD and still it worked perfectly. > I tested also the Edgy by live CD: the same problem, no system sounds. > Have anybody any idea what to do? Is the new Feisty solution for > these problems? > Olli Tammilehto > > From philsf at ufrj.br Mon Mar 26 14:21:18 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:21:18 -0300 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors) In-Reply-To: <200703251636.17814.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <4606267E.3050808@wanadoo.fr> <4606B105.9050208@wanadoo.fr> <200703251636.17814.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703261121.18722.philsf@ufrj.br> On Sunday 25 March 2007 18:36:17 Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > I'm not sure why gmail works that way, but I'm guessing it sees the message > you sent, and the message you get back from the list as the same message and > just discards the duplicate. This is not an issue, it's a feature. Gmail does not have 'folders', but messages get threaded in only one 'folder' (All Mail). So it does not make sense to keep multiple copies of a message, when it automatically appears in all threads it belongs (list threads and sent mail). So no, it won't be 'corrected', because this is exactly what they want to happen. If you don't like it, don't use it. I do the same thing as Howard do: I manually copy the messages I send to the lists to it's folders in my kmail. It could probably be automated with filters, but I don't send enough messages to bother. regards FF From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Mon Mar 26 19:34:31 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:34:31 -0600 Subject: How to install 'Termcap' ? Message-ID: <200703261334.32083.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; I'm trying to install EnterpriseDB on Kubuntu Dapper. When I run ./pre-Install.sh I get this: "Initializing for Linux... You do not have Termcap installed, please install it before continuing." I've started adept and searched on termcap - but nothing show up. Anyone know what package I need to install Termcap? From lokeey at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 19:42:17 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:42:17 -0500 Subject: How to install 'Termcap' ? In-Reply-To: <200703261334.32083.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703261334.32083.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/oldlibs/termcap-compat On 3/26/07, Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Hi List; > > I'm trying to install EnterpriseDB on Kubuntu Dapper. When I > run ./pre-Install.sh I get this: > > "Initializing for Linux... > > You do not have Termcap installed, please install > it before continuing." > > > I've started adept and searched on termcap - but nothing show up. Anyone > know > what package I need to install Termcap? > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 01:50:16 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Need help with install...... Message-ID: <330926.86181.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I got an e-mail from M$ security telling me there was an important update for Windows IE and some other stuff. I clicked download with virus scan. Yahoo said there is a virus called "W32.Swen.A at mm" so I downloaded to my Sun Ultra 30 running Debian. It didn't work. I tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu with no luck. Does anyone know where to file a bug report on this virus? Earl "God made man, Sam Colt made men equal." URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From ansari.farid at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 02:02:56 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:02:56 +0500 Subject: Need help with install...... In-Reply-To: <330926.86181.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <330926.86181.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703261902l4bfc30f4sc266d4cd05c8c392@mail.gmail.com> *Dear Earl,* *Microsoft never sends security update messages and if such a message is received it's for Microsoft products, Windows, which are not applicable to Linux based distro's.* *Viruses made for Windows do not affect Linux.* *Regards,* *Farid* On 3/27/07, Earl Violet wrote: > > > > I got an e-mail from M$ security telling me there was an important > update for Windows IE and some other stuff. I clicked download with > virus scan. Yahoo said there is a virus called "W32.Swen.A at mm" so I > downloaded to my Sun Ultra 30 running Debian. It didn't work. I > tried > Ubuntu and Kubuntu with no luck. Does anyone know where to file a > bug > report on this virus? > > Earl > > "God made man, Sam Colt made men equal." > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Tue Mar 27 02:04:33 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:04:33 -0700 Subject: Need help with install...... In-Reply-To: <330926.86181.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <330926.86181.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703261904.33764.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Monday 26 March 2007 06:50:16 pm Earl Violet wrote: > I got an e-mail from M$ security telling me there was an important > update for Windows IE and some other stuff. I clicked download with > virus scan. Yahoo said there is a virus called "W32.Swen.A at mm" so I > downloaded to my Sun Ultra 30 running Debian. It didn't work. I > tried > Ubuntu and Kubuntu with no luck. Does anyone know where to file a > bug > report on this virus? Errr. why are you trying to download a windows virus on a linux system? > > Earl > > "God made man, Sam Colt made men equal." > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ >_________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From rbmorse at comcast.net Tue Mar 27 02:40:43 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:40:43 -0600 Subject: Need help with install...... In-Reply-To: <200703261904.33764.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <330926.86181.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703261904.33764.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <200703262040.43172.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Monday 26 March 2007 20:04:33 grumpy wrote: > Errr. why are you trying to download a windows virus on a > linux system? > > > Earl I think he was making a funny. RBM From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Tue Mar 27 03:33:49 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:33:49 -0700 Subject: Need help with install...... In-Reply-To: <200703262040.43172.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <330926.86181.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703261904.33764.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> <200703262040.43172.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200703262033.49896.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Monday 26 March 2007 07:40:43 pm Ron Morse wrote: > On Monday 26 March 2007 20:04:33 grumpy wrote: > > Errr. why are you trying to download a windows virus on a > > linux system? > > > > > Earl > > I think he was making a funny. Dunno I was/am just about as clueless, GF gave me a cluebat for Christmas ;-) > > RBM From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Tue Mar 27 04:00:36 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:00:36 -0600 Subject: scp - connection refused Message-ID: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Hi List; I have 2 laptops both running Kubuntu Dapper. I tried to scp a file from one laptop to the pother tonite via: "scp 192.168.1.4:/home/user1/file1.doc ." but I get this: ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.4 port 22: Connection refused lost connection The same result if I try to scp the other way... How can I enable/allow scp? From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Mar 27 04:22:43 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:22:43 -0400 Subject: scp - connection refused In-Reply-To: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <46089C13.3070405@gatech.edu> Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > I have 2 laptops both running Kubuntu Dapper. I tried to scp a file from one > laptop to the pother tonite via: > > "scp 192.168.1.4:/home/user1/file1.doc ." > > but I get this: > ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.4 port 22: Connection refused > lost connection > > The same result if I try to scp the other way... > > How can I enable/allow scp? I believe you simply have to install the ssh daemon on the one you want to download files from (probably both in your case). sudo apt-get install ssh Matt Flaschen From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Tue Mar 27 04:39:27 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:39:27 -0600 Subject: scp - connection refused In-Reply-To: <46089C13.3070405@gatech.edu> References: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <46089C13.3070405@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703262239.27916.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> On Monday 26 March 2007 22:22, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Kevin Kempter wrote: > > Hi List; > > > > I have 2 laptops both running Kubuntu Dapper. I tried to scp a file from > > one laptop to the pother tonite via: > > > > "scp 192.168.1.4:/home/user1/file1.doc ." > > > > but I get this: > > ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.4 port 22: Connection refused > > lost connection > > > > The same result if I try to scp the other way... > > > > How can I enable/allow scp? > > I believe you simply have to install the ssh daemon on the one you want > to download files from (probably both in your case). > > sudo apt-get install ssh > > Matt Flaschen I do have ssh installed. I can scp from our main servers at work but cannot scp to this box. Maybe there's a config setting somewhere? From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Tue Mar 27 04:57:13 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:57:13 -0400 Subject: scp - connection refused In-Reply-To: <200703262239.27916.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <46089C13.3070405@gatech.edu> <200703262239.27916.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <4608A429.6050900@gatech.edu> Kevin Kempter wrote: > On Monday 26 March 2007 22:22, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Kevin Kempter wrote: >>> Hi List; >>> >>> I have 2 laptops both running Kubuntu Dapper. I tried to scp a file from >>> one laptop to the pother tonite via: >>> >>> "scp 192.168.1.4:/home/user1/file1.doc ." >>> >>> but I get this: >>> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.4 port 22: Connection refused >>> lost connection >>> >>> The same result if I try to scp the other way... >>> >>> How can I enable/allow scp? >> I believe you simply have to install the ssh daemon on the one you want >> to download files from (probably both in your case). >> >> sudo apt-get install ssh >> >> Matt Flaschen > > I do have ssh installed. I can scp from our main servers at work but cannot > scp to this box. Maybe there's a config setting somewhere? What do you mean you can "scp from our main servers at work"? Which computer are you downloading files /from/? Ubuntu comes with the ssh client software, but if you want it to act as an ssh server (for example to allow clients to initiate downloads from an Ubuntu machine), you must install ssh server software with the command above. Matt Flaschen From kevin at kevinkempterllc.com Tue Mar 27 05:14:33 2007 From: kevin at kevinkempterllc.com (Kevin Kempter) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:14:33 -0600 Subject: scp - connection refused (SOLVED) In-Reply-To: <4608A429.6050900@gatech.edu> References: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703262239.27916.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <4608A429.6050900@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703262314.34271.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> On Monday 26 March 2007 22:57, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Kevin Kempter wrote: > > On Monday 26 March 2007 22:22, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> Kevin Kempter wrote: > >>> Hi List; > >>> > >>> I have 2 laptops both running Kubuntu Dapper. I tried to scp a file > >>> from one laptop to the pother tonite via: > >>> > >>> "scp 192.168.1.4:/home/user1/file1.doc ." > >>> > >>> but I get this: > >>> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.4 port 22: Connection refused > >>> lost connection > >>> > >>> The same result if I try to scp the other way... > >>> > >>> How can I enable/allow scp? > >> > >> I believe you simply have to install the ssh daemon on the one you want > >> to download files from (probably both in your case). > >> > >> sudo apt-get install ssh > >> > >> Matt Flaschen > > > > I do have ssh installed. I can scp from our main servers at work but > > cannot scp to this box. Maybe there's a config setting somewhere? > > What do you mean you can "scp from our main servers at work"? Which > computer are you downloading files /from/? Ubuntu comes with the ssh > client software, but if you want it to act as an ssh server (for example > to allow clients to initiate downloads from an Ubuntu machine), you must > install ssh server software with the command above. > > Matt Flaschen Hi Everyone & thanks for your help. Here's the deal: I work at a company which has several RedHat servers. From my laptop running Dapper I can scp files FROM the RH servers to my laptop, however I could not be logged into a RH server and scp from my laptop or even ssh to my laptop from any other box. I installed the 'ssh client & server traditional package' and everything works great. I guess I needed the server like you mentioned above. Thanks again... From priyadarsanroy at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 09:32:56 2007 From: priyadarsanroy at gmail.com (Priyadarsan Roy) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:02:56 +0530 Subject: How to ascertain Ubuntu's version? In-Reply-To: <1174415075.30875.1180462441@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1174415075.30875.1180462441@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4608E4C8.7010802@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 09:56:42 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:56:42 +0200 Subject: How to ascertain Ubuntu's version? In-Reply-To: <4608E4C8.7010802@gmail.com> References: <1174415075.30875.1180462441@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4608E4C8.7010802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703271156.43137.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Chill-out on the HTML email please! /d From macariov at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 13:31:16 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:31:16 -0700 Subject: scp - connection refused In-Reply-To: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> References: <200703262200.36856.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> Message-ID: <1175002276.3608.2.camel@mvalle> Try: "scp user at 192.168.1.4:/home/user1/file1.doc ." where "user" is an existing user on the 192.168.1.4 machine. As it is, it is trying to use the same user name you are log on in the local machine. On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 22:00 -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote: > Hi List; > > I have 2 laptops both running Kubuntu Dapper. I tried to scp a file from one > laptop to the pother tonite via: > > "scp 192.168.1.4:/home/user1/file1.doc ." > > but I get this: > ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.4 port 22: Connection refused > lost connection > > The same result if I try to scp the other way... > > How can I enable/allow scp? > From philbieber at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 13:40:20 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:40:20 +0200 Subject: Cant install Kubuntu 7.04 Beta In-Reply-To: <20070323203017.20050@gmx.net> References: <20070323203017.20050@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703270640x27f455cbsb9dc6f13703d3cb9@mail.gmail.com> Hi! The only thing I can say to this is: It worked for me... I had Edgy installed, and did a dist-upgrade and everything works quite well... The question for changed hardware porbably is redundant... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- Quis custodiet custodes? Wer überwacht die Wächter? 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In-Reply-To: <880dece00703160005y6ac719cbo5a3d73254dcf2885@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <3b27fa9d0703151204i7d7b0a8cl53f1f9ba73438d6d@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00703160005y6ac719cbo5a3d73254dcf2885@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703271425.33647.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Friday 16 March 2007 03:05, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 15/03/07, Phil Bieber wrote: > > Hi! > > > > A fairly easy way to remove all VMWARE leftovers: (did that myself, cuz I > > messed up an installation... ) > > Open a shell an type > > sudo updatedb > > this will update the file database used by locate to find files > > the run > > locate vmware > > and remove all findings except maybe installation files and such. Then > > you ought to be able to install vmware. > > Are you kidding? What if he has a file howto-install-vmware.txt on his > system? You should NOT recommend to users to blindly erase everything > they find. You cannot expect what he has on his system. I don't mean > to attack you but that was a foolish, irresponsible, and potentially > dangerous suggestion. Thanks all for your suggestions. I did use locate to find the leftovers. I knew what not to delete. I have not again tried to install yet, but I home that I got everything and that was choking the reinstall. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <880dece00703151055l1498e1afybea9292845a70405@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703111544.01893.kevin@kevinkempterllc.com> <200703151320.26749.art.alexion@verizon.net> <880dece00703151055l1498e1afybea9292845a70405@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703271439.24963.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 15 March 2007 13:55, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Did you read this?: > http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server After the first failed install. After that it wasn't much help because the aborted install prevented the install scripts from running again. Now that I think I got all of the leftovers off the HD, I am hoping to continue with it where I left off. Thanks. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. 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Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/ad90f690-8d66-41cf-9885-f821c5ae9918 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) I booted from a Kubuntu Dapper LiveCD and entered a shell and attempted to fsck the hard drive: $ sudo fsck /dev/hda1 It recovered several inode entries, but I am still unable to boot normally. So what can I do? Is my hard drive hosed? If not, how can I get past BusyBox to get to my OS? -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) "That which does not kill me makes me stranger." -Llewellyn, from Ozy & Millie From rscrawford at mossroot.com Tue Mar 27 20:22:58 2007 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:22:58 -0700 Subject: Boot fails into Busybox, Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703271208.24142.rscrawford@mossroot.com> References: <200703271208.24142.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Message-ID: <200703271322.59708.rscrawford@mossroot.com> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:08:23 Richard S. Crawford wrote: > After installing a bunch of updates to my Feisty Herd 5 box, my computer > has suddenly decided to stop booting. When I attempt to boot into safe > mode, it gets as far as this: > > Begin: waiting for root filesystem... ... > [ 45.256317] Floppy drives(s): fd0 is 1.44M > [ 45.283740] FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 > > > After a few minutes, these messages appear: > > Done. > Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline > or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev > ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/ad90f690-8d66-41cf-9885-f821c5ae9918 does not > exist. Dropping to a shell! > > BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) > Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands > > /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off > (initramfs) > > > I booted from a Kubuntu Dapper LiveCD and entered a shell and attempted to > fsck the hard drive: > > $ sudo fsck /dev/hda1 > > It recovered several inode entries, but I am still unable to boot normally. > > So what can I do? Is my hard drive hosed? If not, how can I get past > BusyBox to get to my OS? Other errors which have cropped up: Prior to the "Begin: waiting for root filsystem... ..." line, I get these messages: Begin: Assembling all MD arrays ... mdadm: No devices listed in conf file were found Failure: failed to assemble all arrays I found this thread on the Ubuntu forums which seemed to address this issue and had some workarounds: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216039&highlight=Begin%3A+Waiting+for+root+file+system However, this did not work. The fact that I was able to mount /dev/hda1 when I booted from the LiveCD and attempt to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst, as well as the fact that I got the grub menu on boot when I booted without the LiveCD, indicates to me that the hard drive and filesystem are probably fine after all. Still looking for some help. -- Richard S. Crawford (http://www.mossroot.com) "That which does not kill me makes me stranger." -Llewellyn, from Ozy & Millie From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 27 22:29:59 2007 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: CUPS & Epson Stylus CX5800F Message-ID: <146995.99150.qm@web82807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hope someone can help soon as I need my printer to do Income Tax work. My printer was working but now just doesn't work(print). The only thing I've done is upgrade. The KDE add printer utility only has network and smb printer active eberything else is greyed out. I did use administrative mode. When I use localhost:631 or localhost:631/admin now it shows my printer and all goes well until it asks for my cups username and password which it simply doesn't recognize. I tried everything, my user ID and passwd and my root passwd and everything else I could think of but nothing is accepted. Before I reinstalled cups, gimpprint and gutenprint drivers and everything associated only pp printer connections were shown and mine is a usb. I'm using Dapper 6.0.6.1 up to date, cupsys v 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06, cupsys-client v 1.2.2-0ubuntu0.6.06, KDE 3.55 and have cupsys-driver-gimpprint, cupsys-driver-gutenprint, libcups*, libgnomecups* etc all installed. When I first tried to reinstall my printer and the usb ports were not listed, I tried to modify the cups server and when it asked for my user ID and passwd the passwd issue started and hasn't stopped. Any help, clues most appreciated as I'm at a loss on what else to do. I did read the localhost:631/help and searched the Ubuntu forus before posting here and as soon as I figure out how, I'll post on the forums also. Thanks for any help, Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Mar 27 23:44:03 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <200703271439.24963.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Art Alexion wrote: > On Thursday 15 March 2007 13:55, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Did you read this?: > > http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server > > After the first failed install. After that it wasn't much help > because the > aborted install prevented the install scripts from running again. > > Now that I think I got all of the leftovers off the HD, I am hoping > to > continue with it where I left off. > > Thanks. > -- > > _____________________________________________________________ > Art Alexion > I don't remember earlier parts of this thread, but did you try "sudo deborphan"? I don't remember if I had to install it myself or not. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Mar 27 19:34:16 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:34:16 -0300 Subject: Boot fails into Busybox, Feisty References: <200703271208.24142.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Message-ID: Richard S. Crawford wrote: > After installing a bunch of updates to my Feisty Herd 5 box, my computer Herd? That's not linux, right? :-) > ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/ad90f690-8d66-41cf-9885-f821c5ae9918 does not > exist. Dropping to a shell! My first experience in edgy did that to me - the uuid in /etc/fstab needs to match what's on the file system. I just fixed /etc/fstab to use the old /dev/sda* names, and everything went fine. -- derek From daniel at rimspace.net Wed Mar 28 00:52:49 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:52:49 +1000 Subject: Syncing a Nokia N70 phone References: <91d218430703271126r544fed46p64c4f368bc0de5b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87abxychpa.fsf@rimspace.net> "Jose Gomez-Dans" writes: > I have a brand new Nokia N70 phone. I would like to sync it with > kontact on my Kubuntu Edgy laptop, either through USB or Bluetooth. > Bluetooth seems to work, but where to go from here? Off to a dark room where you can have a good cry -- your hopes are unlikely to come to fruition. The 'opensync' package is the most promising option for performing local synchronisation between KDE and the phone, but with my testing it still didn't do very well with the latest release. The best success I have had requires running your sync process over an Internet packet data carrier from the phone provider, and using ScheduleWorld as the service operator. That took more than a little effort to get right but, finally, did actually manage to sync correctly with the phone and manage data in other devices. You can then use the details it stores from various tools including KDE. http://www.scheduleworld.com/ Sorry to give such a dim view of the entire process: this was really a firm hope of mine and I invested quite a lot of time and effort trying to get it working. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Wed Mar 28 01:52:11 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:52:11 -0400 Subject: fdutils stopped working Message-ID: <200703272152.11906.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> March 27, 2007 I use Kubuntu, 6.067LTS with my old MSI , K7 PRO, MSI-6195 everything worked fine until I wanted to use my old floppy drive ( fd0 ). It does not operate anymore even if fdutils is installed, I tried to uninstall + reinstall several time through Adept, then through the terminal with this command: mount /mnt/floppy ... THIS COMMAND DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE I guessed! Because fdutils is automatic I understand.. I looked at the literature for floppy drive and it said that there was a problem or bug with this utility but no fix.... seems available Is there a fix, upgrade or another way to get it to work.... Denis Gaulin From kassube at gmx.net Wed Mar 28 06:05:56 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:05:56 +0200 Subject: CUPS & Epson Stylus CX5800F In-Reply-To: <146995.99150.qm@web82807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <146995.99150.qm@web82807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703280805.56292.kassube@gmx.net> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 00:29, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > Hope someone can help soon as I need my printer to do > Income Tax work. > My printer was working but now just doesn't > work(print). The only thing I've done is upgrade. > The KDE add printer utility only has network and smb > printer active eberything else is greyed out. I did > use administrative mode. Is your printer connected via USB? I had a similar problem with my old paralllel port printer connected via a USB->Centronics adapter. Finally the USB printer was visible after I sent some data to the printer with this command: sudo -u cupsys sh -c 'echo -e "Hello world!\f" >/dev/usblp0 Then I could install the printer and now everything works like expected. Nils From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Wed Mar 28 06:58:59 2007 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (=?utf-8?q?Rafa=C5=82_Zawadzki?=) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:58:59 +0200 Subject: Syncing a Nokia N70 phone In-Reply-To: <87abxychpa.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <91d218430703271126r544fed46p64c4f368bc0de5b1@mail.gmail.com> <87abxychpa.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703280858.59117.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> Dnia środa, 28 marca 2007 02:52, Daniel Pittman napisał: > "Jose Gomez-Dans" writes: > > I have a brand new Nokia N70 phone. I would like to sync it with > > kontact on my Kubuntu Edgy laptop, either through USB or Bluetooth. > > Bluetooth seems to work, but where to go from here? > > Off to a dark room where you can have a good cry -- your hopes are > unlikely to come to fruition. I am using E50 + kontact. Unfortunately - only simple sync is working - sending vcs file to phone or in another way. -- bluszcz From almilis at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 10:33:19 2007 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:33:19 +0700 Subject: Any recent updates for widescreen 1280x768 GeForce 6100? Message-ID: <36135600703280333v12cb1fd9rddbb96b8d13a3a71@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Is there any recent updates for widescreen notebooks; 1280x768 GeForce 6100? Will 7.04 support this? Is there any current distro that support these notebook plug and play? PS: 915resolution is for Intel chips only? -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ From lacsilva at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 12:16:10 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (lacsilva at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:16:10 +0200 Subject: acpi hibernate killing the sound Message-ID: <200703281416.10973.lacsilva@gmail.com> I have an Acer Aspire 1694 and I'm successfully using Feisty (kubuntu, by the way) for some weeks now. There are two main problems though: 1. After resuming from hibernation (acpi is working fine I guess) I lose the sound. This doesn't happen after a suspend. I also get the suspend led blinking after resuming from hibernation. Again, no problem when resuming from suspend. 2. ACPI reports countless events for each press of the lid button which makes the lidbtn.sh script to be executed that many times after reopening. The computer becomes almost response-less from several minutes up to hours depending on how long the lid was closed with the computer on. Any suggestions for this? From almilis at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 12:45:49 2007 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:45:49 +0700 Subject: How to list an UUID? Message-ID: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> Hi, May I know how find the UUID of a file-system and/or swap partition? BTW: Is there any specific reason: SWAP will always be recreated with a new UUID, even if SWAP already exists before? regards, -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ From art.alexion at verizon.net Wed Mar 28 13:00:34 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:00:34 -0400 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200703280900.35971.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 19:44, Earl Violet wrote: > did you try "sudo > deborphan"? I installed deborphan and its GUI gtkorphan. I have run it a few times to identify libs it thinks are orphaned, but it appears to identify some libs as orphaned when I don't think they are. I am nervous about using it. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The error i get is: ------------------------------------------------ (Gecko:9730): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GtkWidget' (Gecko:9730): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `GObject' (Gecko:9730): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_get_data: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed /usr/local/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 9730 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"} ------------------------------------------------- Any help would be appreciated. Warm regards -- :wq! Mário Gamito From philbieber at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 14:01:09 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:01:09 +0200 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0703280701p758d8b5dq92a64bb3832d604f@mail.gmail.com> Hi! You may... There is a directory called /dev/disk/by-uuid/ Change to that directory and do a ls -la and you will see it contains links to your devices. With that info it ought to be easy to figure out which UUID is which disk. To your other question: I have no idea... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- Quis custodit custodes? Wer überwacht die Wächter? Who will watch the watchers? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel at rimspace.net Wed Mar 28 14:02:01 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:02:01 +1000 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87648l8o12.fsf@rimspace.net> "Ali Milis" writes: > May I know how find the UUID of a file-system and/or swap partition? blkid(8) is the best way to do that; the core Ubuntu system tools like the initramfs use that. > Is there any specific reason: SWAP will always be recreated > with a new UUID, even if SWAP already exists before? When you tell Linux to create a file system it, as a rule, takes you at your word and does just that. So: if you told it to create swap on a partition it creates swap. None of the various tools will guess that you actually meant to keep the old partition -- a few ask for confirmation, but generally they just do what you said. If you don't want your swap partition UUID changed then don't reformat the swap partition. :) If you mean "when I installed the system why did the UUID of my swap change" the answer is: because, generally, I don't think anyone considered that a high priority use case. Anyway, if that is what you mean file an enhancement request against the installer components in launchpad. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Wed Mar 28 13:59:03 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:59:03 +1000 Subject: acpi hibernate killing the sound References: <200703281416.10973.lacsilva@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87abxx8o60.fsf@rimspace.net> lacsilva at gmail.com writes: > I have an Acer Aspire 1694 and I'm successfully using Feisty (kubuntu, by the way) for some weeks now. There are two main problems though: > > 1. After resuming from hibernation (acpi is working fine I guess) I > lose the sound. This doesn't happen after a suspend. I also get the > suspend led blinking after resuming from hibernation. Again, no > problem when resuming from suspend. By hibernation you mean "to disk", right? -- so that kills your sound but "to memory" doesn't. Crazy. Most people have it the other way around. > 2. ACPI reports countless events for each press of the lid button > which makes the lidbtn.sh script to be executed that many times after > reopening. The computer becomes almost response-less from several > minutes up to hours depending on how long the lid was closed with the > computer on. > > Any suggestions for this? Both of those should be reported as bugs into launchpad.net against the kernel. Neither should be happening and both are almost certainly hardware driver related issues one way or another. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Wed Mar 28 14:04:04 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:04:04 +1000 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? References: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703280900.35971.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <871wj98nxn.fsf@rimspace.net> Art Alexion writes: > On Tuesday 27 March 2007 19:44, Earl Violet wrote: >> did you try "sudo deborphan"? > > I installed deborphan and its GUI gtkorphan. I have run it a few > times to identify libs it thinks are orphaned, but it appears to > identify some libs as orphaned when I don't think they are. I am > nervous about using it. My personal preference is to use aptitude(8) to install and manage packages. Aside from being a good and responsive curses UI it has the nice feature of tracking automatically installed packages. It works just like deborphan except that, you know, being the way you install packages it has absolute knowledge of what you did or did not ask it to do. If you want this sort of extra cleverness then I suggest you trial aptitude before trialing tools that try to reverse engineer the information that aptitude *knows.* Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Mar 28 14:08:54 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:08:54 -0300 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ali Milis wrote: > Hi, > > May I know how find the UUID of a file-system and/or swap > partition? Any of the hal utilities should do it. > BTW: > Is there any specific reason: SWAP will always be recreated > with a new UUID, even if SWAP already exists before? Whenever you create a new filesystem (which in essence is what mkwswap does) you get a new uuid. Specifically, for swap partitions I use: # mkswap -L swap /dev/... and use the label "swap" wherever possible, instead of the uuid. -- derek From lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 28 15:03:28 2007 From: lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net (Leonard Chatagnier) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: CUPS & Epson Stylus CX5800F In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <59468.8712.qm@web82815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 00:29, Leonard Chatagnier > wrote: > > Hope someone can help soon as I need my printer to > do > > Income Tax work. > > My printer was working but now just doesn't > > work(print). The only thing I've done is upgrade. > > The KDE add printer utility only has network and > smb > > printer active everything else is greyed out. I > did > > use administrative mode. > > Is your printer connected via USB? I had a similar > problem with my old > paralllel port printer connected via a > USB->Centronics adapter. Finally > the USB printer was visible after I sent some data > to the printer with > this command: > > sudo -u cupsys sh -c 'echo -e "Hello world!\f" > >/dev/usblp0 > > Then I could install the printer and now everything > works like expected. > > > Nils > Thanks Nils for the reply. Somehow I missed Issues 88 & 89 of the Digest emails and they are not in the archives or list uri. To answer you question: My Epson Stylus CX5800 is all usb hooked into by usb#1 adapter port on the computer; no converter whatsoever is used. Your script command blows my mind; I'm not really a long standing Linux user. However not being a patient man, I kept working on the problem, mainly reinstalling all the related software packages and retrying the printer installation via KDE Add Printer Wizard, Localhost:631 and Control Center>printers>admin mode and right after I gave up and posted, the Add Printer Wizard worked(the first radio button was no longer greyed out and could be selected for the first time after many tries.) and I was able to reinstall the printer that was once installed and working. Never did get the localhost:631 to accept my user ID and passwd. I also was able to get OO.o to print from Calc which wouldn't initially with the same driver installed originally and worked with OO.o v2. I wished I knew what actually solved the printer installation problem but haven't a clue. Must be a buggy cups or kde somewhere as the printer was once installed and working perfectly. When, if, I get copies of Issues 88 and 89, I'll reply to any other comments that were made. Thanks, appreciate your response, Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net From almilis at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 15:08:28 2007 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:08:28 +0700 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <87648l8o12.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <87648l8o12.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> On 3/28/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: > If you mean "when I installed the system why did the UUID of my swap > change" the answer is: because, generally, I don't think anyone > considered that a high priority use case. I am just wondering then, what is the advantage of using UUID for swap in a /etc/fstab file? > Anyway, if that is what you mean file an enhancement request against the > installer components in launchpad. OK and thank you! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/97407 -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Mar 28 14:50:19 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:50:19 -0300 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? References: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703280900.35971.art.alexion@verizon.net> <871wj98nxn.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: Daniel Pittman wrote: > My personal preference is to use aptitude(8) to install and manage > packages. Aside from being a good and responsive curses UI I'm sure there's a good reason why it's called "curses" :-) I don't find the UI very intuitive, so I just use the CLI. > it has the > nice feature of tracking automatically installed packages. > > It works just like deborphan except that, you know, being the way you > install packages it has absolute knowledge of what you did or did not > ask it to do. > > If you want this sort of extra cleverness then I suggest you trial > aptitude before trialing tools that try to reverse engineer the > information that aptitude *knows.* The one drawback is that it _doesn't_ know anything about existing installed packages. I got around that when I first started to use aptitude by using something like (don't trust me on this - it's a long time ago): # aptitude markauto ~nlib* to make all lib* packages "automatic". There's also some way to do that without it actually removing unneeded packages at the time (but I can't find the option), so that you can use "unmarkauto" to reset the ones you really need before anything drastic happens. -- derek From lokeey at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 17:03:39 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:03:39 -0500 Subject: /var/log/wtmp Message-ID: does anyone know what command to you use to get a dump of wtmp? i know in that other distro it's utmpdump, i've tried dump, but wasn't successful. any thoughts? -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Wed Mar 28 17:30:45 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:30:45 +0200 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ali Milis wrote the following on 28.03.2007 14:45: > Hi, > > May I know how find the UUID of a file-system and/or swap > partition? > > BTW: > Is there any specific reason: SWAP will always be recreated > with a new UUID, even if SWAP already exists before? > > regards, man 8 vol_id bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From rbmorse at comcast.net Wed Mar 28 18:11:37 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:11:37 -0600 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703281211.37722.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:30:45 Thilo Six wrote: > man 8 vol_id > > bye Thilo That's actually pretty useless. Why make someone unmount a partition just to check a UUID? From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Wed Mar 28 21:05:07 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:05:07 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> Daniel Pittman wrote: >anthony baldwin writes: > > > >>Is there anything I should know before purchasing a LCD monitor, such >>as, which drivers are already available, or, are there any brands for >>which a driver is troublesome, etc.? >> >> > >>From a Linux / driver perspective, no. > > I finally got an LCD. I purchased an Acer X171. I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it was detected, and everything looked swell... Until I logged into to KDE. Then, the screen went blank except for a little message that read: ¨input not acceptable¨, or something like that. There were two cords in the box. Switching them doesn´t seem to make a difference. Anyone? thanks, tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From lokeey at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 21:12:42 2007 From: lokeey at gmail.com (Lokeey) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:12:42 -0500 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> Message-ID: xorg.conf...same thing happened to me. you need to check xorg.conf and make sure your settings are correct. On 3/28/07, anthony baldwin wrote: > > Daniel Pittman wrote: > > >anthony baldwin writes: > > > > > > > >>Is there anything I should know before purchasing a LCD monitor, such > >>as, which drivers are already available, or, are there any brands for > >>which a driver is troublesome, etc.? > >> > >> > > > >>From a Linux / driver perspective, no. > > > > > I finally got an LCD. > I purchased an Acer X171. > I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it was detected, and everything > looked swell... > Until I logged into to KDE. > Then, the screen went blank except for a little message that read: > ¨input not acceptable¨, or something like that. > There were two cords in the box. Switching them doesn´t seem to make a > difference. > > Anyone? > > thanks, > tony > > -- > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com > http://www.photodharma.com > --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- > Version: 3.1 > GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G > e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ > --------END GEEK CODE---------- > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- "99 years and counting" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Wed Mar 28 21:19:10 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:19:10 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> Message-ID: <460ADBCE.7030300@optonline.net> Lokeey wrote: > xorg.conf...same thing happened to me. you need to check xorg.conf and > make sure your settings are correct. I only find the possible resolutions in xorg.conf. I don´t see anything about refresh rates or anything else. The weird thing is, it gets to the graphical log in screen and looks great... then craps out when I log in. Also, there is no documentation in this box (I bought it at Office Max, I was expecting something in there...) How do I know what the ¨correct settings¨ are? Thanks tony > > On 3/28/07, *anthony baldwin* < anthonybaldwin at optonline.net > > wrote: > > Daniel Pittman wrote: > > >anthony baldwin < anthonybaldwin at optonline.net > > writes: > > > > > > > >>Is there anything I should know before purchasing a LCD monitor, > such > >>as, which drivers are already available, or, are there any > brands for > >>which a driver is troublesome, etc.? > >> > >> > > > >>From a Linux / driver perspective, no. > > > > > I finally got an LCD. > I purchased an Acer X171. > I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it was detected, and > everything > looked swell... > Until I logged into to KDE. > Then, the screen went blank except for a little message that read: > ¨input not acceptable¨, or something like that. > There were two cords in the box. Switching them doesn´t seem to > make a > difference. > > Anyone? > > thanks, > tony > > -- > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com > http://www.photodharma.com > --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- > Version: 3.1 > GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- > b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ > --------END GEEK CODE---------- > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > "99 years and counting" -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Wed Mar 28 21:21:13 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:21:13 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> Message-ID: <460ADC49.3040707@optonline.net> Lokeey wrote: > xorg.conf...same thing happened to me. you need to check xorg.conf and > make sure your settings are correct. Just for giggles, here is the entire ¨monitor¨ section of my xorg.conf: Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1" Monitor "X171" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x800" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection thanks, tony > > On 3/28/07, *anthony baldwin* < anthonybaldwin at optonline.net > > wrote: > > Daniel Pittman wrote: > > >anthony baldwin < anthonybaldwin at optonline.net > > writes: > > > > > > > >>Is there anything I should know before purchasing a LCD monitor, > such > >>as, which drivers are already available, or, are there any > brands for > >>which a driver is troublesome, etc.? > >> > >> > > > >>From a Linux / driver perspective, no. > > > > > I finally got an LCD. > I purchased an Acer X171. > I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it was detected, and > everything > looked swell... > Until I logged into to KDE. > Then, the screen went blank except for a little message that read: > ¨input not acceptable¨, or something like that. > There were two cords in the box. Switching them doesn´t seem to > make a > difference. > > Anyone? > > thanks, > tony > > -- > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com > http://www.photodharma.com > --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- > Version: 3.1 > GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- > b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ > --------END GEEK CODE---------- > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > "99 years and counting" -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Mar 28 19:47:56 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:47:56 -0300 Subject: Moving applications between sessions Message-ID: At any given time, I usually have two KDE sessions running (as the same user). One on my laptop display and one via NX. The NX one will be suspended if I'm not at work, and the laptop will be in my desk if I am. Sometimes, I'll find that an application that I want to run is already running in the other session and won't let me run multiple copies (eg, firefox & kontact). Is there a way to grab the application from display 0 and put it on display N? I could just run one session and access it via krfb, but the geometry sucks :-) I'd google for a solution, but I don't have a clue what I'm looking for :-) -- derek From stew.schneider at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 21:41:45 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:41:45 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <460ADBCE.7030300@optonline.net> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> <460ADBCE.7030300@optonline.net> Message-ID: <460AE119.2070804@gmail.com> I had endless trouble with an LCD doing this. Finally, I moved .kde. That seemed to do it. s anthony baldwin wrote: > I only find the possible resolutions in xorg.conf. > I don´t see anything about refresh rates or anything else. > The weird thing is, it gets to the graphical log in screen and looks > great... > then craps out when I log in. > Also, there is no documentation in this box (I bought it at Office Max, > I was expecting something in there...) > How do I know what the ¨correct settings¨ are? > From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Wed Mar 28 23:06:09 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:06:09 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <460ADC49.3040707@optonline.net> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <460ADC49.3040707@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200703281906.09250.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 5:21 pm, anthony baldwin wrote: > Just for giggles, here is the entire ¨monitor¨ section of my xorg.conf: That's the "Screen" section, not the "Monitor" section. I bet the trick is to comment something in the Monitor section out. Mine is just this: Section "Monitor" Identifier "Acer AL1912" Option "DPMS" EndSection Just a wild ass guess though. -- D. Michael McIntyre From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Thu Mar 29 01:25:31 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:25:31 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <200703281906.09250.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <460ADC49.3040707@optonline.net> <200703281906.09250.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <460B158B.7040607@optonline.net> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >On Wednesday 28 March 2007 5:21 pm, anthony baldwin wrote: > > >>Just for giggles, here is the entire ¨monitor¨ section of my xorg.conf: >> >> > >That's the "Screen" section, not the "Monitor" section. > >I bet the trick is to comment something in the Monitor section out. Mine is >just this: > >Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Acer AL1912" > Option "DPMS" >EndSection > >Just a wild ass guess though. > > Okay, here´s what I got: Section "Monitor" Identifier "X171" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 30-70 VertRefresh 50-160 EndSection Furthermore, even after having run dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and acquiring these settings for the new monitor, my very old generic monitor is working with these same settings, which are, supposedly, for the Acer (thus, I am able to log on, with the old monitor, and write to you kind folks...) Removing the refresh and sync parameters doesn´t seem to have any effect whatever. With the new monitor, every thing is lovely through the boot process, and I even get a nice graphical login screen... Then, attempts to login to KDE (with the Acer, of course) give that ¨input not supported¨ error (that is precisely what it says) on the monitor. Attempts to sudo startkde from terminal give these errors: kdeinit $DISPLAY not set ksmserver can´t connect to Xserver xset unable to open display xsetroot unable to opendisplay ERROR: Couldn´t attach to DCOP server (not necessarily in that order...) There...that´s more info...maybe that will help. I can´t seem to figure out where to set the display that kdeinit wants, or xset or xsetroot, and have no idea why the DCOP server can´t be connected... Any input will be deeply appreciated. thanks tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Thu Mar 29 02:03:37 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:03:37 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <460AE119.2070804@gmail.com> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> <460ADBCE.7030300@optonline.net> <460AE119.2070804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <460B1E79.9050709@optonline.net> Stew Schneider wrote: >I had endless trouble with an LCD doing this. Finally, I moved .kde. >That seemed to do it. > > Where did you move it? Doesn´t that wreak havoc with other kde stuff? tony >s > >anthony baldwin wrote: > > >>I only find the possible resolutions in xorg.conf. >>I don´t see anything about refresh rates or anything else. >>The weird thing is, it gets to the graphical log in screen and looks >>great... >>then craps out when I log in. >>Also, there is no documentation in this box (I bought it at Office Max, >>I was expecting something in there...) >>How do I know what the ¨correct settings¨ are? >> >> >> > > > -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From daniel at rimspace.net Thu Mar 29 01:52:46 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:52:46 +1000 Subject: Moving applications between sessions References: Message-ID: <87ejn8olxt.fsf@rimspace.net> Derek Broughton writes: > At any given time, I usually have two KDE sessions running (as the > same user). One on my laptop display and one via NX. The NX one will > be suspended if I'm not at work, and the laptop will be in my desk if > I am. Sometimes, I'll find that an application that I want to run is > already running in the other session and won't let me run multiple > copies (eg, firefox & kontact). Is there a way to grab the > application from display 0 and put it on display N? Short answer, no. Long answer, mostly no. Doing this requires specific support from the entire application stack, from application code, toolkit and underlying X libraries. The code would essentially have to disconnect from the old X server and reconnect to the new X server -- rebuilding all the GUI resources it used in the process including Windows, images, fonts, share memory segments, &c. This is a very complex process and, currently, I don't believe there is anything more than vague developer level experimental support for it. You /can/ also use a "proxy" model: one where an application sits between your X server and your X clients. If that proxy supports moving applications from one display to another then this can work. That means the proxy needs to support *every* extension that the client uses, though, and the complexity of that has meant that they actually support only the very basic X protocol -- and, so, not much of what recent clients actually want. > I could just run one session and access it via krfb, but the geometry > sucks :-) Well, you may be able to fix that by giving different directives to the underlying software ... but I agree that it isn't a great solution. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Thu Mar 29 01:48:44 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:48:44 +1000 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <87648l8o12.fsf@rimspace.net> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> "Ali Milis" writes: > On 3/28/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> If you mean "when I installed the system why did the UUID of my swap >> change" the answer is: because, generally, I don't think anyone >> considered that a high priority use case. > > I am just wondering then, what is the advantage of using > UUID for swap in a /etc/fstab file? Well, the UUID is absolutely stable in general -- most people install one Linux and never change it. AFAIK nothing else should cause it to change. Using the UUID means that your system will work if the layout of disk devices changes -- that way when your devices are moved from hdX to sdX in the transition to libata, or when you rearrange your SATA cables or add another controller ... things still work. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From lists at ptfd.org Thu Mar 29 02:27:59 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:27:59 -0400 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 09:48:44 pm Daniel Pittman wrote: > "Ali Milis" writes: > > On 3/28/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> If you mean "when I installed the system why did the UUID of my swap > >> change" the answer is: because, generally, I don't think anyone > >> considered that a high priority use case. > > > > I am just wondering then, what is the advantage of using > > UUID for swap in a /etc/fstab file? > > Well, the UUID is absolutely stable in general -- most people install > one Linux and never change it. AFAIK nothing else should cause it to > change. > > Using the UUID means that your system will work if the layout of disk > devices changes -- that way when your devices are moved from hdX to sdX > in the transition to libata, or when you rearrange your SATA cables or > add another controller ... things still work. But if you decide the disk is tight and ad another just for /home, you can't easily set up the fstab file with uuid?? Mike From stew.schneider at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 02:37:45 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:37:45 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <460B1E79.9050709@optonline.net> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <87tzxxid8j.fsf@rimspace.net> <460AD883.6090405@optonline.net> <460ADBCE.7030300@optonline.net> <460AE119.2070804@gmail.com> <460B1E79.9050709@optonline.net> Message-ID: <460B2679.6010408@gmail.com> mv .kde .kde.sav When kde runs again, it sees no .kde and recreates it. That fixed it for my LCD. I was having the same problem you are having -- video was fine until kde started. I reasoned that something (I never did discern what) in my user account was playing nasty with the video. If it doesn't work, you can re-up the old .kde. hth stew anthony baldwin wrote: > Stew Schneider wrote: > >> I had endless trouble with an LCD doing this. Finally, I moved .kde. >> That seemed to do it. >> >> > > Where did you move it? > Doesn´t that wreak havoc with other kde stuff? > From daniel at rimspace.net Thu Mar 29 06:11:22 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:11:22 +1000 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> "Michael W. Holdeman" writes: > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 09:48:44 pm Daniel Pittman wrote: >> "Ali Milis" writes: >> > On 3/28/07, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> >> If you mean "when I installed the system why did the UUID of my swap >> >> change" the answer is: because, generally, I don't think anyone >> >> considered that a high priority use case. >> > >> > I am just wondering then, what is the advantage of using >> > UUID for swap in a /etc/fstab file? >> >> Well, the UUID is absolutely stable in general -- most people install >> one Linux and never change it. AFAIK nothing else should cause it to >> change. >> >> Using the UUID means that your system will work if the layout of disk >> devices changes -- that way when your devices are moved from hdX to sdX >> in the transition to libata, or when you rearrange your SATA cables or >> add another controller ... things still work. > > But if you decide the disk is tight and ad another just for /home, you > can't easily set up the fstab file with uuid?? I don't quite follow your question here. If you mean "it is hard to add a UUID to fstab" I would have to disagree; running 'blkid /dev/sdXN' and putting the result into place is probably less difficult than working out how to format the device in the first place. Also, notably, the folks who are not comfortable with finding the UUID will generally be using the friendly GUI tools that automate the process for you. Perhaps you had some other question in mind though? Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Thu Mar 29 12:58:54 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (John D. Herron) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:58:54 +0200 Subject: Monitor says 'Sync. out of range - 81.2 kHz/ 65 Hz"... Message-ID: <460BB80E.7010704@bluewin.ch> Hi, all. My dual-boot (Dapper 6.06 LTS + Win 98 SE) box has a Samsung SyncMaster 171MP LCD monitor that works well at 1280x1024. Yesterday, in an effort to gain some more screen real-estate, stupid me played around with 'enhancing' the monitor's resolution by moving the knob on the 'Display' resolution slide-bar up by a notch or two. For a time I did indeed have more desktop space available (I was able with the mouse to move around the contents of the desktop beyond the limits of the monitor's physical boundaries). I worked with the new setup for a few hours, then rebooted into Windows to do some database work. When I later tried to go back to Dapper, the boot sequence went flawlessly until it was far enough to switch from text mode to the KDE login dialog, but the dialog never came up: instead, the monitor went black and displayed in small red letters a message reading 'Sync. out of range - 81.2 kHz/ 65 Hz". I had no other way to get out of that quandary but to physically reset the box. A Samsung call-center technician told me that the preset max. res. for this monitor is 1280x1024. I was then able to launch Dapper in protected mode with no problem (got to where I had a console prompt), but my console latin is almost non-existent (I just a few days back started a tutorial in Linux...). Can anyone suggest what I might do to reset the monitor so as to be able to get my KDE up and working again? Is there some workaround I could apply in console mode, can I repair it with the alternative ISO or will I need to re-install Dapper altogether? Thanks for any help you can give. ----------------------------------------------------- John D. Herron e-mail paradox.herron at bluewin.ch ------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Thu Mar 29 14:05:02 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:05:02 -0700 Subject: Does Kubuntu support the Intel Quad processor and Sata II Message-ID: <460BC78E.1040902@oem.doe.gov> I'm thinking of upgrading my home box and would like to use the following: Asus P5N-E SLI LGA775 PCIe ATX Motherboard Intel Pentium 4/D Dual Core, Core 2 Duo/Quad or Extrem Edtion CPU The Mobo comes with a nVidia nForce 650 SLI + nForce 430i Chipset. Is this chipset compatible with Beryl? Here are the Specs: http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/product.php?productid=17493&cat=395&page=1 Is Sata II supported by Kubuntu (6.1) on this Mobo? Are there any issues or problems with my selection of hardware? Thanks Doug P From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Thu Mar 29 14:20:55 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:20:55 +0100 Subject: Monitor says 'Sync. out of range - 81.2 kHz/ 65 Hz"... In-Reply-To: <460BB80E.7010704@bluewin.ch> References: <460BB80E.7010704@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <460BCB47.5010609@tiscali.co.uk> John D. Herron wrote: > Hi, all. > My dual-boot (Dapper 6.06 LTS + Win 98 SE) box has a Samsung > SyncMaster 171MP LCD monitor that works well at 1280x1024. > Yesterday, in an effort to gain some more screen real-estate, stupid > me played around with 'enhancing' the monitor's resolution by moving > the knob on the 'Display' resolution slide-bar up by a notch or two. > For a time I did indeed have more desktop space available (I was able > with the mouse to move around the contents of the desktop beyond the > limits of the monitor's physical boundaries). I worked with the new > setup for a few hours, then rebooted into Windows to do some database > work. > When I later tried to go back to Dapper, the boot sequence went > flawlessly until it was far enough to switch from text mode to the KDE > login dialog, but the dialog never came up: instead, the monitor went > black and displayed in small red letters a message reading 'Sync. out > of range - 81.2 kHz/ 65 Hz". I had no other way to get out of that > quandary but to physically reset the box. A Samsung call-center > technician told me that the preset max. res. for this monitor is > 1280x1024. > I was then able to launch Dapper in protected mode with no problem > (got to where I had a console prompt), but my console latin is almost > non-existent (I just a few days back started a tutorial in Linux...). > Can anyone suggest what I might do to reset the monitor so as to be > able to get my KDE up and working again? > Is there some workaround I could apply in console mode, can I repair > it with the alternative ISO or will I need to re-install Dapper > altogether? > Thanks for any help you can give. > ----------------------------------------------------- > John D. Herron > e-mail paradox.herron at bluewin.ch > ------------------------------------------------------ > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will sort it out. I hope this helps. :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Thu Mar 29 14:21:20 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:21:20 +0100 Subject: Monitor says 'Sync. out of range - 81.2 kHz/ 65 Hz"... In-Reply-To: <460BB80E.7010704@bluewin.ch> References: <460BB80E.7010704@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <460BCB60.4010809@tiscali.co.uk> John D. Herron wrote: > Hi, all. > My dual-boot (Dapper 6.06 LTS + Win 98 SE) box has a Samsung > SyncMaster 171MP LCD monitor that works well at 1280x1024. > Yesterday, in an effort to gain some more screen real-estate, stupid > me played around with 'enhancing' the monitor's resolution by moving > the knob on the 'Display' resolution slide-bar up by a notch or two. > For a time I did indeed have more desktop space available (I was able > with the mouse to move around the contents of the desktop beyond the > limits of the monitor's physical boundaries). I worked with the new > setup for a few hours, then rebooted into Windows to do some database > work. > When I later tried to go back to Dapper, the boot sequence went > flawlessly until it was far enough to switch from text mode to the KDE > login dialog, but the dialog never came up: instead, the monitor went > black and displayed in small red letters a message reading 'Sync. out > of range - 81.2 kHz/ 65 Hz". I had no other way to get out of that > quandary but to physically reset the box. A Samsung call-center > technician told me that the preset max. res. for this monitor is > 1280x1024. > I was then able to launch Dapper in protected mode with no problem > (got to where I had a console prompt), but my console latin is almost > non-existent (I just a few days back started a tutorial in Linux...). > Can anyone suggest what I might do to reset the monitor so as to be > able to get my KDE up and working again? > Is there some workaround I could apply in console mode, can I repair > it with the alternative ISO or will I need to re-install Dapper > altogether? > Thanks for any help you can give. > ----------------------------------------------------- > John D. Herron > e-mail paradox.herron at bluewin.ch > ------------------------------------------------------ > "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will sort it out. I hope this helps. :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Mar 29 14:47:17 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:47:17 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [USN-447-1] KDE library vulnerabilities Message-ID: <200703291047.31297.art.alexion@verizon.net> How would those of us using 6.06 LTS and the official Kubuntu KDE 3.5.5 packages take advantage of this update? ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [USN-447-1] KDE library vulnerabilities Date: Wednesday 28 March 2007 23:12 From: Kees Cook To: ubuntu-security-announce at lists.ubuntu.com Cc: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk, bugtraq at securityfocus.com =========================================================== Ubuntu Security Notice USN-447-1 March 28, 2007 kdelibs vulnerabilities CVE-2007-1308, CVE-2007-1564 =========================================================== A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: Ubuntu 5.10 Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Ubuntu 6.10 This advisory also applies to the corresponding versions of Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu. The problem can be corrected by upgrading your system to the following package versions: Ubuntu 5.10: kdelibs4c2 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2.3 Ubuntu 6.06 LTS: kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.3 Ubuntu 6.10: kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.1.1 After a standard system upgrade you need to restart your session or reboot your computer to effect the necessary changes. Details follow: It was discovered that Konqueror did not correctly handle iframes from JavaScript. If a user were tricked into visiting a malicious website, Konqueror could crash, resulting in a denial of service. (CVE-2007-1308) A flaw was discovered in how Konqueror handled PASV FTP responses. If a user were tricked into visiting a malicious FTP server, a remote attacker could perform a port-scan of machines within the user's network, leading to private information disclosure. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 309 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 16:20:24 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:20:24 -0500 Subject: Fwd: [USN-447-1] KDE library vulnerabilities In-Reply-To: <200703291047.31297.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200703291047.31297.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200703291120.24176.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Thursday 29 March 2007 09:47:17 am Art Alexion wrote: > How would those of us using 6.06 LTS and the official Kubuntu KDE 3.5.5 > packages take advantage of this update? > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: [USN-447-1] KDE library vulnerabilities > Date: Wednesday 28 March 2007 23:12 > From: Kees Cook > To: ubuntu-security-announce at lists.ubuntu.com > Cc: full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk, bugtraq at securityfocus.com > > =========================================================== > Ubuntu Security Notice USN-447-1 March 28, 2007 > kdelibs vulnerabilities > CVE-2007-1308, CVE-2007-1564 > =========================================================== > > A security issue affects the following Ubuntu releases: > > Ubuntu 5.10 > Ubuntu 6.06 LTS > Ubuntu 6.10 Forgive my ignorance if I'm wrong, but considering this is a security fix it should just be part of your normal patch updates. Right? if Dapper LTS is still supported with security updates, that's what I would assume will happen. Of course I'm assuming you have the "security" repositories enabled in your sources.list file. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From T.Six at gmx.de Thu Mar 29 16:33:22 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:33:22 +0200 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <200703281211.37722.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703281211.37722.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ron Morse wrote the following on 28.03.2007 20:11: > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:30:45 Thilo Six wrote: >> man 8 vol_id >> >> bye Thilo > > That's actually pretty useless. Why make someone unmount a > partition just to check a UUID? ?? $ mounthd | grep sda3 /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro,commit=21) $ sudo vol_id -l /dev/sda3 ub $ sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda3 a763e9c8-cd16-413d-ac26-23b836c1e31b bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From rbmorse at comcast.net Thu Mar 29 16:58:55 2007 From: rbmorse at comcast.net (Ron Morse) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:58:55 -0600 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703281211.37722.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200703291058.55637.rbmorse@comcast.net> On Thursday 29 March 2007 10:33:22 Thilo Six wrote: > Ron Morse wrote the following on 28.03.2007 20:11: > > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:30:45 Thilo Six wrote: > >> man 8 vol_id > >> > >> bye Thilo > > > > That's actually pretty useless. Why make someone > > unmount a partition just to check a UUID? > > ?? > My bad. vol_id wants sudo: sudo vol_id /dev/sdb1 ID_FS_USAGE=filesystem ID_FS_TYPE=ext3 ID_FS_VERSION=1.0 ID_FS_UUID=3da80bb3-09c5-4449-af4d-20bf30544f06 ID_FS_LABEL= ID_FS_LABEL_SAFE= whereas without sudo it returns: /dev/sdb1: error open volume Got me confused, it did RBM From T.Six at gmx.de Thu Mar 29 17:19:15 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:19:15 +0200 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <200703291058.55637.rbmorse@comcast.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703281211.37722.rbmorse@comcast.net> <200703291058.55637.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ron Morse wrote the following on 29.03.2007 18:58: > My bad. vol_id wants sudo: no problem > Got me confused, it did > > RBM > bye Thilo -- i am on Ubuntu 2.6 KDE - some friend of mine gpg key: 0x4A411E09 From philsf at ufrj.br Thu Mar 29 17:50:01 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:50:01 -0300 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703291450.01931.philsf@ufrj.br> On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:11:22 Daniel Pittman wrote: > Perhaps you had some other question in mind though? Maybe something like: "can one use UUIDs from LVM volumes?", or "if I resize the LVM volume, will its UUID change?" I only know the answer to the first one, and it's a yes. regards FF From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Mar 29 01:11:40 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:11:40 -0300 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <460ADC49.3040707@optonline.net> <200703281906.09250.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 5:21 pm, anthony baldwin wrote: >> Just for giggles, here is the entire ¨monitor¨ section of my xorg.conf: > > That's the "Screen" section, not the "Monitor" section. > > I bet the trick is to comment something in the Monitor section out. Mine > is just this: > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Acer AL1912" > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Just a wild ass guess though. Sure, but I'd give it a wild ass agreement :-) Minimal seems to be better in many cases. -- derek From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Thu Mar 29 18:21:24 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:21:24 -0400 Subject: memory stick question Message-ID: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> Hi, Thanks for your help on the monitor...Looks great. Now, I just ordered a new computer. I was going to just buy a mobo/cpu combo and upgrade this one, but, for the same price, I found a whole machine with the same CPU, etc. Now, when it arrives, it will have one 512mb stick. Do I have to precisely match that stick to add another? It has slots for two, and supports up to 2gb. I mean, would it work to add another 512mb stick, but not the same brand, etc.? And, what if I added a 1024 next to the existing 512? Would that be bad? I am inclined to believe that I need matching memory, but if I am wrong, and these other configurations are possible, I would like to know. Likely, I´ll probably just buy two 1024mb sticks shortly, anyway, but, I am curious. tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 18:34:28 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:34:28 -0700 Subject: Does Kubuntu support the Intel Quad processor and Sata II In-Reply-To: <460BC78E.1040902@oem.doe.gov> References: <460BC78E.1040902@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: On 3/29/07, Douglas Phillipson wrote: > I'm thinking of upgrading my home box and would like to use the following: > > Asus P5N-E SLI LGA775 PCIe ATX Motherboard > > Intel Pentium 4/D Dual Core, Core 2 Duo/Quad or Extrem Edtion CPU Yes. > The Mobo comes with a nVidia nForce 650 SLI + nForce 430i Chipset. Don't know, though I think it is. > Is this chipset compatible with Beryl? Yes. > Here are the Specs: > > http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/product.php?productid=17493&cat=395&page=1 > > Is Sata II supported by Kubuntu (6.1) on this Mobo? I've never heard of a hard drive controller that Linux doesn't support. YMMV. > Are there any issues or problems with my selection of hardware? It's a little expensive, but it should work. -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 18:37:36 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:37:36 +0200 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Likely, I´ll probably just buy two 1024mb sticks shortly, anyway, but, I > am curious. RAM is hell. Expensive hell. I try to go up in identical increments. I have never had any luck mixing modules - even from the same manufacturer. /d From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 18:48:31 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:48:31 -0700 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/29/07, Donn wrote: > > Likely, I´ll probably just buy two 1024mb sticks shortly, anyway, but, I > > am curious. > RAM is hell. Expensive hell. I try to go up in identical increments. I have > never had any luck mixing modules - even from the same manufacturer. Basically: if they aren't in the same package, they probably won't work. RAM is just such a high-speed affair that it doesn't have any room for any kind of failure in it. Once I had a machine that wouldn't boot because someone hadn't properly secured the RAM in their slots. They were locked in, but the builder hadn't finished off by whacking them down with the butt end of a screwdriver to secure them. Crazy... -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Mar 29 18:51:23 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:51:23 +0100 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> Message-ID: <460C0AAB.9060809@stdin.me.uk> anthony baldwin wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your help on the monitor...Looks great. > > Now, I just ordered a new computer. > I was going to just buy a mobo/cpu combo and upgrade this one, > but, for the same price, I found a whole machine with the same CPU, etc. > Now, when it arrives, it will have one 512mb stick. > Do I have to precisely match that stick to add another? It has slots > for two, and supports > up to 2gb. > I mean, would it work to add another 512mb stick, but not the same > brand, etc.? > And, what if I added a 1024 next to the existing 512? Would that be bad? > I am inclined to believe that I need matching memory, but if I am wrong, > and these > other configurations are possible, I would like to know. > Likely, I´ll probably just buy two 1024mb sticks shortly, anyway, but, I > am curious. > > tony > > You can add another stick, and they don't have to be the same brand, or even the same capacity. I have a 1GB stick and a 512MB stick in my box. They are different brands and different capacity, works fine. The only thing is to make sure you use the same type of RAM, i.e. both of mine are PC3200. It's not a great idea to mix different types. Tez From ansari.farid at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 18:57:17 2007 From: ansari.farid at gmail.com (Farid Ansari) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:57:17 +0500 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> Message-ID: <27b81ea70703291157g3ea1b531x36eeb4b1fdac30f8@mail.gmail.com> *Buy 2 identical 1024 sticks. Thats the best.* *Farid* On 3/29/07, anthony baldwin wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for your help on the monitor...Looks great. > > Now, I just ordered a new computer. > I was going to just buy a mobo/cpu combo and upgrade this one, > but, for the same price, I found a whole machine with the same CPU, etc. > Now, when it arrives, it will have one 512mb stick. > Do I have to precisely match that stick to add another? It has slots > for two, and supports > up to 2gb. > I mean, would it work to add another 512mb stick, but not the same > brand, etc.? > And, what if I added a 1024 next to the existing 512? Would that be bad? > I am inclined to believe that I need matching memory, but if I am wrong, > and these > other configurations are possible, I would like to know. > Likely, I´ll probably just buy two 1024mb sticks shortly, anyway, but, I > am curious. > > tony > > -- > http://www.baldwinlinguas.com > http://www.photodharma.com > --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- > Version: 3.1 > GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G > e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ > --------END GEEK CODE---------- > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philsf at ufrj.br Thu Mar 29 19:36:04 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:36:04 -0300 Subject: Does Kubuntu support the Intel Quad processor and Sata II In-Reply-To: References: <460BC78E.1040902@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <200703291636.04094.philsf@ufrj.br> On Thursday 29 March 2007 15:34:28 Chris Miller wrote: > I've never heard of a hard drive controller that Linux doesn't support. YMMV. My current mobo (intel D945GTP) has a SATA bus which is not recognizable by Debian sarge's kernel (2.6.8). Since Ubuntu Dapper and Edgy never gave me trouble, I must assume support for it was included in the kernel after 2.6.8, and before 2.6.15. That doesn't mean sarge doesn't support SATA at all. It does. regards FF From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 19:49:20 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:49:20 -0600 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> Message-ID: <460C1840.9080801@gmail.com> anthony baldwin said the following at 03/29/2007 12:21 PM : > > Now, I just ordered a new computer. > I was going to just buy a mobo/cpu combo and upgrade this one, > but, for the same price, I found a whole machine with the same CPU, etc. > Now, when it arrives, it will have one 512mb stick. > Do I have to precisely match that stick to add another? It has slots Well, you got several responses, and I'm going to give you another one: look in the manual that comes with the computer, and do whatever it says. I have a bunch of machines scattered around me as I write this, almost all of which have been upgraded with extra RAM, and there is no one consistent rule that applies to all those upgrades. In each case, I followed whatever instructions came with the computer (or mobo). Doc From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 20:17:21 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:17:21 -0700 Subject: Does Kubuntu support the Intel Quad processor and Sata II In-Reply-To: <200703291636.04094.philsf@ufrj.br> References: <460BC78E.1040902@oem.doe.gov> <200703291636.04094.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: On 3/29/07, Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 15:34:28 Chris Miller wrote: > > > I've never heard of a hard drive controller that Linux doesn't support. > YMMV. > > My current mobo (intel D945GTP) has a SATA bus which is not recognizable by > Debian sarge's kernel (2.6.8). Since Ubuntu Dapper and Edgy never gave me > trouble, I must assume support for it was included in the kernel after 2.6.8, > and before 2.6.15. > > That doesn't mean sarge doesn't support SATA at all. It does. Kernel 2.6.8 is really stale. Right now we're on 2.6.20. I know quad-core is supported because there have been other quad-core chips before the Intel quad-cores (the Sun Niagra had 16 cores IIRC) so quad-core isn't a problem. SATAII should be there. My SATA150 drivers (for my desktop machine) have been in the kernel for as long as I can remember, and I've seen SATAII board floating around for at least two years, so I think you're more than safe with the setup you've selected. Buy me one while you're at it, will 'ya ; ) That's easily 5x more powerful than my desktop machine (which is an Athlon64 3000+ socket 754). -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 20:18:23 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:18:23 -0700 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <460C1840.9080801@gmail.com> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <460C1840.9080801@gmail.com> Message-ID: If you don't have the manual, go to the mobo's manufacturer site. They almost always have pdf files of the manual for download (and updated drivers, etc.) On 3/29/07, D. R. Evans wrote: > anthony baldwin said the following at 03/29/2007 12:21 PM : > > > > Now, I just ordered a new computer. > > I was going to just buy a mobo/cpu combo and upgrade this one, > > but, for the same price, I found a whole machine with the same CPU, etc. > > Now, when it arrives, it will have one 512mb stick. > > Do I have to precisely match that stick to add another? It has slots > > Well, you got several responses, and I'm going to give you another one: > look in the manual that comes with the computer, and do whatever it says. > > I have a bunch of machines scattered around me as I write this, almost all > of which have been upgraded with extra RAM, and there is no one consistent > rule that applies to all those upgrades. In each case, I followed whatever > instructions came with the computer (or mobo). > > Doc > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Mar 29 19:09:37 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:09:37 -0300 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: Daniel Pittman wrote: > If you mean "it is hard to add a UUID to fstab" I would have to > disagree; running 'blkid /dev/sdXN' and putting the result into place is > probably less difficult than working out how to format the device in the > first place. Yeah, but it's easier to say "it's the third partition so I use /dev/sda3" than pasting the result of blkid. Specifically for swap partitions, uuid is _not_ very stable (at least when hibernate gets involved). I've had to use mkswap a number of times because of problems with hibernation. > > Also, notably, the folks who are not comfortable with finding the UUID > will generally be using the friendly GUI tools that automate the process > for you. Which gui tools would those be? I haven't found an fstab manager, but it would be nice. -- derek From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Thu Mar 29 22:31:19 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:31:19 +0200 Subject: Monitor says "Synch. out of range..." apparently solved Message-ID: <460C3E37.2040206@bluewin.ch> MANY THANKS to the fellow user who suggested I should try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in the console to recapture my KDE desktop after my OS had become accessible only in recovery mode. Now I have one more incentive to get acquainted with Linux's inner workings. And you just saved my life. jdh _________________ kubuntu 6.06 LTS on i586 w/ 512 MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Thu Mar 29 22:34:02 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:34:02 -0400 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <460B158B.7040607@optonline.net> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <200703281906.09250.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <460B158B.7040607@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200703291834.02097.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 9:25 pm, anthony baldwin wrote: > Okay, here´s what I got: > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "X171" > Option "DPMS" > HorizSync 30-70 > VertRefresh 50-160 > EndSection Bingo. Comment out that HorizSync and VertRefresh crap, and your problem is solved, I guar-on-tee. > Removing the refresh and sync parameters doesn´t seem to have any effect > whatever. OK, here's your money back then. > Attempts to sudo startkde from terminal give these errors: You can't run startkde from a terminal. You'll get errors. :) You need to run X, then run KDE from X. xinit startkde But I have no idea what's going wrong for you, and will shut up now. -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Thu Mar 29 22:36:35 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:36:35 -0400 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 29 March 2007 2:37 pm, Donn wrote: > RAM is hell. Expensive hell. I try to go up in identical increments. I have > never had any luck mixing modules - even from the same manufacturer. I'm with Donn on this one. What ever happened to 72-pin SIMMs anyway? Now we have 973 different kinds of RAM, in 475 different increments, with 385,000 different possible configurations. I never upgrade RAM anymore. I have no idea WHAT the hell to buy. -- D. Michael McIntyre From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 22:52:02 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:52:02 -0700 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: Use newegg.com - it'll save you some hair that you would have otherwise gone and ripped out of your scalp while worrying whether the RAM you're looking at will cause your machine to blow up. On 3/29/07, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 2:37 pm, Donn wrote: > > RAM is hell. Expensive hell. I try to go up in identical increments. I have > > never had any luck mixing modules - even from the same manufacturer. > > I'm with Donn on this one. What ever happened to 72-pin SIMMs anyway? Now we > have 973 different kinds of RAM, in 475 different increments, with 385,000 > different possible configurations. > > I never upgrade RAM anymore. I have no idea WHAT the hell to buy. > > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- It's not much, but it's what I call 127.0.0.1 From grumpypenguin at qwest.net Thu Mar 29 23:06:26 2007 From: grumpypenguin at qwest.net (grumpy) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:06:26 -0700 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703291606.27031.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:36:35 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 2:37 pm, Donn wrote: > > RAM is hell. Expensive hell. I try to go up in identical increments. I > > have never had any luck mixing modules - even from the same manufacturer. > > I'm with Donn on this one. What ever happened to 72-pin SIMMs anyway? Now > we have 973 different kinds of RAM, in 475 different increments, with > 385,000 different possible configurations. > > I never upgrade RAM anymore. I have no idea WHAT the hell to buy. This has worked for me...sometimes http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/memory_config.asp > > -- > D. Michael McIntyre From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 30 00:15:52 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:15:52 -0400 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty Message-ID: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> I need to tweak a setting. When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all initialize prior to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying advisory boxes to appear with messages like "unknown host" etc. KNetworkmanager does work, I just need to make this application first in sequence compared to the other internet-based applications. Can anyone advise? Larry From stdin at stdin.me.uk Fri Mar 30 01:29:32 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 02:29:32 +0100 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <460C67FC.1080900@stdin.me.uk> Derek Broughton wrote: > Daniel Pittman wrote: > > >> If you mean "it is hard to add a UUID to fstab" I would have to >> disagree; running 'blkid /dev/sdXN' and putting the result into place is >> probably less difficult than working out how to format the device in the >> first place. >> > > Yeah, but it's easier to say "it's the third partition so I use /dev/sda3" > than pasting the result of blkid. > > Specifically for swap partitions, uuid is _not_ very stable (at least when > hibernate gets involved). I've had to use mkswap a number of times because > of problems with hibernation. > >> Also, notably, the folks who are not comfortable with finding the UUID >> will generally be using the friendly GUI tools that automate the process >> for you. >> > > Which gui tools would those be? I haven't found an fstab manager, but it > would be nice. > System Settings -> (Advanced tab) -> Disk & Filesystems Tez From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Fri Mar 30 02:16:36 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:16:36 +0100 Subject: Kboincspy problem In-Reply-To: <46068109.6030603@tiscali.co.uk> References: <46068109.6030603@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <460C7304.2090105@tiscali.co.uk> Wulfy wrote: > I run several BOINC projects on my computer. This morning, I awoke to > find that my broadband connection had dropped and I ended up having to > boot to get it to work again (ppp0 doesn't appear in my Network Manager > for some reason....) > > Anyway, now most of the menus in kboincspy are greyed out and the > boinc-client isn't running. When I manually start the client, kboincspy > doesn't seem to connect (hence the greyed out menus). > > Any idea what I can do to get things back? > > Linux localhost 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux > > Kubuntu Edgy > > No one? If you need more info to help just let me know. After another reboot, due to my electricity going off, I find the client now runs... but KBoincSpy still can't connect... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From daniel at rimspace.net Fri Mar 30 02:11:02 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:11:02 +1000 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703291450.01931.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <87ejn7lbux.fsf@rimspace.net> Felipe Figueiredo writes: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:11:22 Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> Perhaps you had some other question in mind though? > > Maybe something like: "can one use UUIDs from LVM volumes?", or "if I > resize the LVM volume, will its UUID change?" > > I only know the answer to the first one, and it's a yes. I don't quite follow these questions either, but I do understand why I don't follow them: You seem to be conflating two different "layers" into one: LVM and the UUID stuff. LVM is a block device management layer. It just exports space from whatever source as a single block device with certain properties. The UUID that is used to mount is a *filesystem* property: ext3, XFS, Linux swap, etc all have their own UUID somewhere in their headers. So -- an LVM logical volume doesn't have a UUID that is used in the mount process at all. A file system -- on LVM, on an MD software RAID, on hardware RAID or whatever -- has a UUID. So: if you resize your LVM volume the UUID stays the same. If you reformat your LVM volume with a new file system, no changes at the LVM level, your UUID changes. In other words: LVM isn't relevant to the UUID used for mounting or whatever. Oh, and finally: LVM scans all available hardware (by default) to find the PVs that it uses. It doesn't depend on the UUID or whatever because it implements a scheme all of its own to handle relocated hardware. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Fri Mar 30 02:16:47 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:16:47 +1000 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703281211.37722.rbmorse@comcast.net> <200703291058.55637.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <87648jlblc.fsf@rimspace.net> Ron Morse writes: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 10:33:22 Thilo Six wrote: >> Ron Morse wrote the following on 28.03.2007 20:11: >> > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:30:45 Thilo Six wrote: >> >> man 8 vol_id >> >> >> >> bye Thilo >> > >> > That's actually pretty useless. Why make someone >> > unmount a partition just to check a UUID? >> >> ?? >> > My bad. vol_id wants sudo: Well, it needs to open the raw block device and read data direct from it. That doesn't need root access -- being a member of group 'disk' gives you sufficient access to do it as a normal user. The permissions on the device node are what matter: daniel at enki:~$ ls -l /dev/sda1 brw-rw---- 1 root root 8, 1 2007-03-27 16:07 /dev/sda1 Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Fri Mar 30 02:15:16 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:15:16 +1000 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <87abxvlbnv.fsf@rimspace.net> Derek Broughton writes: > Daniel Pittman wrote: > >> If you mean "it is hard to add a UUID to fstab" I would have to >> disagree; running 'blkid /dev/sdXN' and putting the result into place is >> probably less difficult than working out how to format the device in the >> first place. > > Yeah, but it's easier to say "it's the third partition so I use > /dev/sda3" than pasting the result of blkid. I don't disagree there. In general, when I need to, I tend to mount by label rather than UUID. ;) > Specifically for swap partitions, uuid is _not_ very stable (at least when > hibernate gets involved). I've had to use mkswap a number of times because > of problems with hibernation. Ah, but that isn't a property of hibernation (as such) but, rather, of your running mkswap on the partition you used for hibernation. The UUID in the swap partition is dead-stable until something (like the user) rewrites it. I will readily agree that mount-by-UUID can be inconvenient if you are developing or testing software that requires routine reformatting of your swap partition. You should probably mount your swap by label and assign a consistent label to the device. :) >> Also, notably, the folks who are not comfortable with finding the UUID >> will generally be using the friendly GUI tools that automate the process >> for you. > > Which gui tools would those be? I haven't found an fstab manager, but > it would be nice. My understanding was that gparted handled all that stuff. Am I wrong? Likewise I thought that the KDE disks and file systems module, in System Settings, was able to handle formatting and mount entries correctly. I confess that I just do it the old fashioned hand-hacked way when I need to, so I may be misinformed on the capabilities of the software. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 30 03:51:29 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:51:29 -0400 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <87abxvlbnv.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> <87abxvlbnv.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <460C8941.3060308@gatech.edu> Daniel Pittman wrote: > My understanding was that gparted handled all that stuff. Am I wrong? Don't think so. > Likewise I thought that the KDE disks and file systems module, in System > Settings, was able to handle formatting and mount entries correctly. Thanks! I didn't know about that. Now, GNOME would never have that. After all, allowing that much configuration confuses the user... ;) Matt Flaschen From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Fri Mar 30 04:16:44 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:16:44 -0400 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <871wj98nxn.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703280900.35971.art.alexion@verizon.net> <871wj98nxn.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <460C8F2C.4050509@gatech.edu> Daniel Pittman wrote: > Art Alexion writes: >> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 19:44, Earl Violet wrote: >>> did you try "sudo deborphan"? >> I installed deborphan and its GUI gtkorphan. I have run it a few >> times to identify libs it thinks are orphaned, but it appears to >> identify some libs as orphaned when I don't think they are. I am >> nervous about using it. > > My personal preference is to use aptitude(8) to install and manage > packages. Aside from being a good and responsive curses UI it has the > nice feature of tracking automatically installed packages. You can also use these features from the command-line, with the same syntax as apt-get . E.g. sudo aptitude install dependent-package Matt Flaschen From nigel at rmk.co.il Fri Mar 30 05:22:50 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:22:50 +0300 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> Larry Hartman wrote: > I need to tweak a setting. > > When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all initialize prior > to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying advisory boxes to appear with > messages like "unknown host" etc. KNetworkmanager does work, I just need to > make this application first in sequence compared to the other internet-based > applications. Can anyone advise? > > Larry > You have to change the order of the initialization of the scripts. Have a look at: http://www.debianadmin.com/manage-linux-init-or-startup-scripts.html also 'man update-rc.d' or online here: http://www.debianadmin.com/manpages/updatercmanpage.htm HTH Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From ian at themagictree.co.uk Fri Mar 30 05:29:43 2007 From: ian at themagictree.co.uk (Ian Rose) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:29:43 +0100 Subject: Knetworkmanager and NFS mounts conflict (feisty) Message-ID: <460CA047.8030506@themagictree.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I am having problems with the feisty beta - having NFS mounts declared in /etc/fstab causes knetworkmanager to hang without error messages. I have the stanza: tux:/data /data nfs nouser,bg,intr,rw,exec,suid 0 0 but when I log into KDE, the shares are not available (which IS expected, as network won't come up until knetworkmanager brings up the wifi - hence the backgrounding of the mount), but the desktop wallpaper doesn't load (!), and the knetworkmanager systray icon will not load. Manually killing knetworkmanager and loading it manually from a konsole generates the same, with no errors (other than the standard wacom-related X errors you always get). Removing the stanza and rebooting allows knetworkmanager to connect perfectly. The questions are: 1) have I made a mistake in my fstab entry? 2) if not, is networkmanager compatible with NFS? (for info the problem is the same whether or not the NFS *server* runs the Dapper kernel or the Edgy kernel) Any help much appreciated. Ian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGDKBGGqrW91lKBAcRApGAAJ0abEJtHFUnHKcy9fLtRWDF8kKtAQCgu/AS FcXFMZ1+neExAexsWj18+5M= =/+a1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 07:16:44 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:16:44 +0200 Subject: Monitor says "Synch. out of range..." apparently solved In-Reply-To: <460C3E37.2040206@bluewin.ch> References: <460C3E37.2040206@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <200703300916.44631.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in the console to recapture my KDE They should give that command a tonne of aliases like: fixscreen screenpanic monitorfix repairmonitor noscreen fixvideo aaaahhhhhhhhh and so on :) /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 07:21:42 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:21:42 +0200 Subject: memory stick question In-Reply-To: <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200703300921.42506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I never upgrade RAM anymore. I have no idea WHAT the hell to buy. > Heh - so true. And what's with the BIOS and those beep codes? Sheesh! Why can't it just say something like "RAM is bad leprace prease!" in 1 octave and 8 notes*? :D /d * please forgive musical ignorance, the last time I composed a tune was with Z80A assembly, the a register and a couple of out commands! From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 07:23:42 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:23:42 +0200 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703300923.42593.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > You have to change the order of the initialization of the scripts. Yes, but that's a daft thing to have to do. It's like expecting an empty car to fill-up with gas *after* it reaches it's destination. I reckon it's a bug and someone should be told about it! /d From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 30 09:52:39 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:52:39 -0400 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703300923.42593.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> <200703300923.42593.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703300552.40030.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> #82335 has already been filed concerning networkmanager connectivity issues. I added my concern to the bug. On Friday 30 March 2007 03:23:42 am Donn wrote: > > You have to change the order of the initialization of the scripts. > > Yes, but that's a daft thing to have to do. It's like expecting an empty > car to fill-up with gas *after* it reaches it's destination. I reckon it's > a bug and someone should be told about it! > > > /d From anthonybaldwin at optonline.net Fri Mar 30 10:27:52 2007 From: anthonybaldwin at optonline.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:27:52 -0400 Subject: Install 2nd hdd with existing XP install for dual boot? (hijacked - was Re: memory stick question) In-Reply-To: <200703291606.27031.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200703291606.27031.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> Message-ID: <460CE628.6080202@optonline.net> grumpy wrote: >On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:36:35 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > >>On Thursday 29 March 2007 2:37 pm, Donn wrote: >> >> >>>RAM is hell. Expensive hell. I try to go up in identical increments. I >>>have never had any luck mixing modules - even from the same manufacturer. >>> >>> >>I'm with Donn on this one. What ever happened to 72-pin SIMMs anyway? Now >>we have 973 different kinds of RAM, in 475 different increments, with >>385,000 different possible configurations. >> >>I never upgrade RAM anymore. I have no idea WHAT the hell to buy. >> >> >This has worked for me...sometimes >http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/memory_config.asp > > > >>-- >>D. Michael McIntyre >> >> > > > > > Heh, Tigerdirect is where I am ordering the machine. Tigerdirect ROCKS! Anyway, the machine already comes with 1 512mb DDR2 533 PC2-4200 stick. So, I figure whatever I get, so long as it is DDR2 PC4200, my machine, theoretically, shouldn´t go *puft*... Now, the one drawback to the machine is, it comes with a 120gb hdd, with (yech...*shivers*) Windows XP Media 2005... So, I figure I will use the 120gb hdd from my present machine in it... BUT, for certain dubious ¨advantages¨ that having access to windows, and,. therefore, certain industry standard programs (Trados), will supposedly offer me, I consider making this a dual boot. Something I have not yet succeeded in doing is making a dual boot with a second/slave hdd. Tried it, but the machine got confused seeing two MBRs... I figured configuring the pins on the second/windows drive for slave and updating grub to find it would work, but, if I recall correctly, it didn´t. I know I could install kubuntu on the windows drive, as a dual boot system, and then move all my goodies from this drive over, but´s just more work than I feel like doing...and I just bought this hdd a few months ago...like, in September, I think. Either way, I want Kubuntu to the default OS, and will only boot the XP when it becomes ¨advantageous¨ for work purposes... Suggestions? tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com http://www.photodharma.com --------BEGIN GEEK CODE-------- Version: 3.1 GED/FA/H/L$ d-- s-:-- a C++ L+++ W++ w--- M PS++ PE-- PGP+ t+ tv-- b++++ G e++++ h---- r++++ y++++ --------END GEEK CODE---------- From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 30 10:28:39 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:28:39 -0400 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200703300628.40018.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> After looking at the manuals I must say that this is a little over my head.... KSysV has networking listed at Runlevel 2, #50. That seems early enough. On Friday 30 March 2007 01:22:50 am Nigel Ridley wrote: > Larry Hartman wrote: > > I need to tweak a setting. > > > > When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all initialize > > prior to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying advisory boxes to > > appear with messages like "unknown host" etc. KNetworkmanager does work, > > I just need to make this application first in sequence compared to the > > other internet-based applications. Can anyone advise? > > > > Larry > > You have to change the order of the initialization of the scripts. > Have a look at: > http://www.debianadmin.com/manage-linux-init-or-startup-scripts.html > also 'man update-rc.d' or online here: > http://www.debianadmin.com/manpages/updatercmanpage.htm > > HTH > > Blessings, > > Nigel > > -- > OliveRoot Ministries > http://www.oliveroot.net/ > > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From art.alexion at verizon.net Fri Mar 30 13:22:56 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:22:56 -0400 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? In-Reply-To: <460C8F2C.4050509@gatech.edu> References: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <871wj98nxn.fsf@rimspace.net> <460C8F2C.4050509@gatech.edu> Message-ID: <200703300923.14245.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Friday 30 March 2007 00:16, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Daniel Pittman wrote: > > Art Alexion writes: > >> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 19:44, Earl Violet wrote: > >>> did you try "sudo deborphan"? > >> > >> I installed deborphan and its GUI gtkorphan. I have run it a few > >> times to identify libs it thinks are orphaned, but it appears to > >> identify some libs as orphaned when I don't think they are. I am > >> nervous about using it. > > > > My personal preference is to use aptitude(8) to install and manage > > packages. Aside from being a good and responsive curses UI it has the > > nice feature of tracking automatically installed packages. > > You can also use these features from the command-line, with the same > syntax as apt-get . E.g. > > sudo aptitude install dependent-package Daniel, I have read about the advantages of aptitude over apt-get before, but understood that one must use one or the other and not both. Before I first heard about these advantages, I had been using apt-get extensively so I thought it was too late to change over. If it is advisable to change over, what would be the best strategy? Matthew, Thanks. Easier to switch if I don't need to learn another syntax. -- _____________________________________________________________ Art Alexion PGP fingerprint: 52A4 B10C AA73 096F A661 92D2 3B65 8EAC ACC5 BA7A Keyserver: hkp://subkeys.pgp.net The attachment - signature.asc - is my electronic signature; no need for alarm. Info @ http://mysite.verizon.net/art.alexion/encryption/signature.asc.what.html _____________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703291450.01931.philsf@ufrj.br> <87ejn7lbux.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703300958.38389.philsf@ufrj.br> Message-ID: <874po2i514.fsf@rimspace.net> Felipe Figueiredo writes: > On Quinta 29 Março 2007, Daniel Pittman wrote: >> Felipe Figueiredo writes: >> On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:11:22 Daniel Pittman wrote: >> > >> >> Perhaps you had some other question in mind though? >> > >> > Maybe something like: "can one use UUIDs from LVM volumes?", or "if >> > I resize the LVM volume, will its UUID change?" >> > >> > I only know the answer to the first one, and it's a yes. >> >> I don't quite follow these questions either, but I do understand why >> I don't follow them: > > The question Michael asked was about substituting a full disk for > another larger. Really? Well, I guess I didn't follow the question well at all. ;) [...] >> The UUID that is used to mount is a *filesystem* property: ext3, XFS, >> Linux swap, etc all have their own UUID somewhere in their headers. >> >> So: if you resize your LVM volume the UUID stays the same. > > For all you said, I still would think resizing the filesystem *might* > change its UUID. Let me make it perfectly clear: *resizing* a filesystem will not, on any current Linux filesystem that I am aware of. My *resize* I mean: run a tool that makes the filesystem larger without disrupting the existing content. If you reformat and then copy data back to it the UUID will change. :) > Not knowing for sure, I didn't assert that. Sorry if I seemed to imply that -- it was my best guess at meaning. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 15:14:18 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:14:18 +0200 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703311714.18086.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > No: the problem isn't the standard init scripts -- the problem is that > NetworkManager waits for a GUI client to instruct it to connect before > attaching to the network. > That application, KNetworkManager, runs concurrent with the other > applications at session startup -- and consequently the network isn't > ready when the applications are. Still sounds like a mess. I have setup my net connection to happen *before* KDE runs so that stuff would not happen. I did this even back in the days of dialup rather than use kppp because if X (or KDE) crashed then I would not lose my net connection. Sounds like Larry needs to get pppd or basic networking going from a lower-level and not rely on KDE's stuff. /d From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Sat Mar 31 15:41:47 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:41:47 -0400 Subject: touch-pad mouse he^H^Hck: can "click" be limited to actual button? Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I now have two computers with edgy on them. My p3 desktop with a trackball, and now on a Gateway laptop (MT6451 Notebook PC) It has an AMD Turion 64x2 processor and a 120 gig HD and a touch-pad mouse. I could almost like the touch-pad mouse. I mean when I let go of it, the mouse pointer stays put (like it does with my desktop's trackball.) But unfortunately, it seams that touch-pad mice are designed so that a user with enough dexterity can gently move the mouse pointer to where they want and then just tap on the pointer motion input pad to "left click" without having to move their finger all the way to the left mouse button. Well I evidently don't have enough dexterity to properly use this pointing device. If I use enough pressure on the touch-pad to move the mouse pointer I frequently click on everything in between where the mouse pointer was, and the toolbar icon I'm trying to reach. For example: last night I needed to edit a spreadsheet document in open office. It's a facsimile of a form I use at work. (I print my own because I print something else on the back.) There is a cell with a line of text containing "name:, date:, shift: etc... fields. Since I print my own for my use I decided to pre-populate some of the fields with my usual data. to make it all fit in the printable area I had to reduce the font size of the cell and then mark only the text of my pre-populated fields to use a larger font, and to print in a non-black color so that I could easily overwrite it if for instance I was using a different work position than usual... If I had been doing this on my desk top with the track ball it would have taken about 5 to 10 minutes (tops) to complete the task with the trackball. But with the touch pad mouse I couldn't get the pointer from the marked section of text to the appropriate tool bar buttons without undesired clicking on all the buttons in between. at least one of which caused "all" my changes to be lost in a way that ^Z could NOT undo. So that I had to start over again and again. It took me over 3 hours to complete the changes to the single line of text. Can anyone tell me of a way I can get kubuntu or kde to disable "click events" triggered by pressure on the touch-pad itself and to ONLY accept a "click" from the actual mouse buttons??????????? I know I could get it an external mouse, But that wouldn't be convenient when I use the laptop away from my desk. And if I was at my desk I could just do such things via the p3 desktop instead... ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDn60RZ/61mwhY94RAv+EAJ4z8zN5GCB+K/iVMsC0+xiX0RTJ5QCePVmS E8zm4Eiakr9xDAR+sOqRZFk= =6YbC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | ~^~ ~^~ | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From kassube at gmx.net Sat Mar 31 15:45:59 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:45:59 +0200 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <200703311745.59962.kassube@gmx.net> On Friday 30 March 2007 02:15, Larry Hartman wrote: > I need to tweak a setting. > > When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all > initialize prior to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying advisory > boxes to appear with messages like "unknown host" etc. KNetworkmanager > does work, I just need to make this application first in sequence > compared to the other internet-based applications. Can anyone advise? > > Larry You could put the script below in the directory $HOME/.kde/Autostart and make it executable. The script waits until the network is available and then starts the applications needing the network. Please check the filenames and paths because I don't have all your applications installed. Nils #!/bin/sh until $(/bin/ping -c 1 www.google.com >/dev/null 2>&1); do sleep 1 done /usr/bin/korn & /usr/bin/kweather & /usr/bin/kopete & /usr/bin/akregator & exit 0 From 2050gaulin at videotron.ca Sat Mar 31 21:17:18 2007 From: 2050gaulin at videotron.ca (Denis Gaulin) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:17:18 -0400 Subject: fdutils - what is wrong with this utility! Message-ID: <200703311717.18916.2050gaulin@videotron.ca> 17.10hrs - 2007-03-30 I run Kubuntu 6.06LTS In adept manger it says that this utility is installed and working yet nothing happen to my drive... It does not even go see if I put a floppy in the drive. I guess that my fduitls does not work anymore. There is no way I can access my 3 1/2 floppy drive.< Have tried - sudo apt-get install fdutils - The answer is '' ressource temporarily not available'' Does that mean that there is a problem to be fixed and it will come back or do we have to do something else to get a working fdutils? Denis Gaulin From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 31 22:29:14 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:29:14 -0400 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703311714.18086.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703311714.18086.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703311829.14090.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> > Sounds like Larry needs to get pppd or basic networking going from a > lower-level and not rely on KDE's stuff. I am gonna try that script that Nils suggested for the moment....but would like to learn more of how to do this maybe as a better fix. Larry From ralph at ralphalvy.com Sat Mar 31 23:17:12 2007 From: ralph at ralphalvy.com (Ralph Alvy) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:17:12 -0700 Subject: File Dialogs don't let me see the root tree Message-ID: One thing I notice happens with Kubuntu and not with other distos that have a KDE desktop. File Dialogs don't let me see the root tree. So, let's say I have an application that allows me to set a folder as the target for a particular operation. When I run that application as user, the file dialog that opens up, from which I am to choose a folder, won't let me peruse the tree under root. Is there setting I can change somewhere here so that I can do this? From philsf at ufrj.br Fri Mar 30 12:58:38 2007 From: philsf at ufrj.br (Felipe Figueiredo) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:58:38 -0300 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <87ejn7lbux.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703291450.01931.philsf@ufrj.br> <87ejn7lbux.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703300958.38389.philsf@ufrj.br> On Quinta 29 Março 2007, Daniel Pittman wrote: > Felipe Figueiredo writes: > On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:11:22 Daniel Pittman wrote: > > > >> Perhaps you had some other question in mind though? > > > > Maybe something like: "can one use UUIDs from LVM volumes?", or "if I > > resize the LVM volume, will its UUID change?" > > > > I only know the answer to the first one, and it's a yes. > > I don't quite follow these questions either, but I do understand why I > don't follow them: The question Michael asked was about substituting a full disk for another larger. This is a problem LVM solves, so if he is prepared to change/add disks in his system, he would just worry about the relationship between UUID and LVM when fs resizing takes place. I didn't think it was such a long shot, but then again, I use LVM on all my systems. ;) > > The UUID that is used to mount is a *filesystem* property: ext3, XFS, > Linux swap, etc all have their own UUID somewhere in their headers. snip > > So: if you resize your LVM volume the UUID stays the same. For all you said, I still would think resizing the filesystem *might* change its UUID. Not knowing for sure, I didn't assert that. Actually *I* don't really care, because I removed UUIDs from my fstab as soon as I spotted them. ;) Guess old habits die hard. regards FF From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Mar 31 01:11:33 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:11:33 -0400 Subject: Azureas question... Message-ID: <200703302111.33679.gene.heskett@verizon.net> I need to grab the livedvd in order to facilitate the repair of a bad attack of pure dumbass. But its only running 50 to 100k at a time, almost like vz is filtering port 6869 and 7000. Whats a good set of portnumbers to setup and clear through my router to get this thing going? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) IBM Advanced Systems Group -- a bunch of mindless jerks, who'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes... -- with regrets to D. Adams From daniel at rimspace.net Sat Mar 31 01:16:52 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:16:52 +1000 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> Nigel Ridley writes: > Larry Hartman wrote: > >> I need to tweak a setting. >> >> When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all >> initialize prior to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying >> advisory boxes to appear with messages like "unknown host" etc. >> KNetworkmanager does work, I just need to make this application first >> in sequence compared to the other internet-based applications. Can >> anyone advise? > > You have to change the order of the initialization of the scripts. No: the problem isn't the standard init scripts -- the problem is that NetworkManager waits for a GUI client to instruct it to connect before attaching to the network. That application, KNetworkManager, runs concurrent with the other applications at session startup -- and consequently the network isn't ready when the applications are. Playing with your init script order isn't going to help anything here, sadly, since they are not involved. Sorry I don't have anything positive to add, too. I don't know a solution to this other than to wait for KDE to bind more closely to a "network presence" system of some sort. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From daniel at rimspace.net Sat Mar 31 01:22:37 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:22:37 +1000 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? References: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <871wj98nxn.fsf@rimspace.net> <460C8F2C.4050509@gatech.edu> <200703300923.14245.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <87zm5ugqaq.fsf@rimspace.net> Art Alexion writes: > On Friday 30 March 2007 00:16, Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Daniel Pittman wrote: [...] >> > My personal preference is to use aptitude(8) to install and manage >> > packages. Aside from being a good and responsive curses UI it has the >> > nice feature of tracking automatically installed packages. >> >> You can also use these features from the command-line, with the same >> syntax as apt-get . E.g. >> >> sudo aptitude install dependent-package > > I have read about the advantages of aptitude over apt-get before, but > understood that one must use one or the other and not both. Well, no. You can use both of them at any time. You will get less benefit from aptitude, but only just. > Before I first heard about these advantages, I had been using apt-get > extensively so I thought it was too late to change over. If it is > advisable to change over, what would be the best strategy? Just change over. Everything will work just fine. :) If you use aptitude it marks packages as "automatically" installed when it pulls them in to resolve dependencies or whatever. If you install a package some other way -- adept, synaptic, apt-get, dpkg or whatever -- aptitude simply shrugs and marks it "manually installed." So, if you install (say) firefox with apt-get and it pulls in a dozen libraries aptitude will mark *all* of those as "manually installed" and will never offer to remove them for you. It will, however, just work. You can manually remove them or even use aptitude to mark things as "automatically installed" by hand. So, yeah, just go for it. None of the package installation front ends prevent you using any of the other front ends -- the worst that happens is some of their fancy features may not be quite so clever. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From priyadarsanroy at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 05:45:57 2007 From: priyadarsanroy at gmail.com (Priyadarsan Roy) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:15:57 +0530 Subject: question In-Reply-To: <460D2C32.2070800@cirma.org.gt> References: <460D2C32.2070800@cirma.org.gt> Message-ID: <460DF595.1090601@gmail.com> Oscar Farfán wrote: > I know this post doen't belong here.... but does anybody is working with > squirrelmail.... we need some help to vinculate two servers.... the > thing is that we have too many accounts and we want to separate those in > two diferent servers.... but we only want to use one address to acces > the squirrelmail via webmail.... and the first server must check if the > account that a user is accesing, resides on it, if not this server must > check in other server if the account resides there, and let the user > access it.......do I explain? > > regards > > Oscar > > Try this plugin http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=47 I have not tried the plugin myself. I would sure like to have some feedbacks if you plan on testing this out. Regards, PD From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 31 11:06:03 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:06:03 -0400 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: <200703310706.03190.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Messing about on the internet and come across another avenue.....would KDE autostart bring it up more quickly? BTW, I appreciate this answer as it helps explain things more clearly.....didnt have this issue on Dapper and Edgy though. Larry On Friday 30 March 2007 09:16:52 pm Daniel Pittman wrote: > Nigel Ridley writes: > > Larry Hartman wrote: > >> I need to tweak a setting. > >> > >> When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all > >> initialize prior to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying > >> advisory boxes to appear with messages like "unknown host" etc. > >> KNetworkmanager does work, I just need to make this application first > >> in sequence compared to the other internet-based applications. Can > >> anyone advise? > > > > You have to change the order of the initialization of the scripts. > > No: the problem isn't the standard init scripts -- the problem is that > NetworkManager waits for a GUI client to instruct it to connect before > attaching to the network. > > That application, KNetworkManager, runs concurrent with the other > applications at session startup -- and consequently the network isn't > ready when the applications are. > > Playing with your init script order isn't going to help anything here, > sadly, since they are not involved. > > Sorry I don't have anything positive to add, too. I don't know a > solution to this other than to wait for KDE to bind more closely to a > "network presence" system of some sort. > > Regards, > Daniel > -- > Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure > Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au > http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu Sat Mar 31 14:52:14 2007 From: matthew.flaschen at gatech.edu (Matthew Flaschen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:52:14 -0400 Subject: Install 2nd hdd with existing XP install for dual boot? (hijacked - was Re: memory stick question) In-Reply-To: <460CE628.6080202@optonline.net> References: <460C03A4.4080204@optonline.net> <200703292037.36977.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200703291836.35478.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200703291606.27031.grumpypenguin@qwest.net> <460CE628.6080202@optonline.net> Message-ID: <460E759E.7060700@gatech.edu> anthony baldwin wrote: > grumpy wrote: > >> On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:36:35 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> >> >>> On Thursday 29 March 2007 2:37 pm, Donn wrote: >>> >>> >>>> RAM is hell. Expensive hell. I try to go up in identical increments. I >>>> have never had any luck mixing modules - even from the same manufacturer. >>>> >>>> >>> I'm with Donn on this one. What ever happened to 72-pin SIMMs anyway? Now >>> we have 973 different kinds of RAM, in 475 different increments, with >>> 385,000 different possible configurations. >>> >>> I never upgrade RAM anymore. I have no idea WHAT the hell to buy. >>> >>> >> This has worked for me...sometimes >> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/memory_config.asp >> >> >> >>> -- >>> D. Michael McIntyre >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > Heh, Tigerdirect is where I am ordering the machine. > Tigerdirect ROCKS! > Anyway, the machine already comes with 1 512mb DDR2 533 PC2-4200 stick. > So, I figure whatever I get, so long as it is DDR2 PC4200, my machine, > theoretically, > shouldn´t go *puft*... > > Now, the one drawback to the machine is, it comes with a 120gb hdd, with > (yech...*shivers*) > Windows XP Media 2005... > So, I figure I will use the 120gb hdd from my present machine in it... > BUT, for certain dubious ¨advantages¨ that having access to windows, > and,. therefore, certain > industry standard programs (Trados), will supposedly offer me, I > consider making this a dual boot. > Something I have not yet succeeded in doing is making a dual boot with a > second/slave hdd. > Tried it, but the machine got confused seeing two MBRs... > I figured configuring the pins on the second/windows drive for slave and > updating grub to find it would work, > but, if I recall correctly, it didn´t. I don't know if the autoconfigure will work, but you should be able to set that up. It would be something like: # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000 # root (hd1,0) # makeactive # chainloader +1 hd1 means second hard drive. Matt Flaschen From daniel at rimspace.net Sat Mar 31 14:48:11 2007 From: daniel at rimspace.net (Daniel Pittman) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:48:11 +1000 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <460C9EAA.2040608@rmk.co.il> <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703310706.03190.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <87veghxydw.fsf@rimspace.net> Larry Hartman writes: > On Friday 30 March 2007 09:16:52 pm Daniel Pittman wrote: >> Nigel Ridley writes: >> > Larry Hartman wrote: >> >> I need to tweak a setting. >> >> >> >> When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all >> >> initialize prior to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying >> >> advisory boxes to appear with messages like "unknown host" etc. >> >> KNetworkmanager does work, I just need to make this application >> >> first in sequence compared to the other internet-based >> >> applications. Can anyone advise? >> > >> > You have to change the order of the initialization of the scripts. >> >> No: the problem isn't the standard init scripts -- the problem is that >> NetworkManager waits for a GUI client to instruct it to connect before >> attaching to the network. >> >> That application, KNetworkManager, runs concurrent with the other >> applications at session startup -- and consequently the network isn't >> ready when the applications are. [...] > Messing about on the internet and come across another avenue.....would > KDE autostart bring it up more quickly? Maybe, but I don't know. I don't actually use much of the session persistence stuff myself so I have not had to solve the problem. Give it a try: it can't do much harm. > BTW, I appreciate this answer as it helps explain things more > clearly.....didnt have this issue on Dapper and Edgy though. Did you use NetworkManager with them? Traditionally the network, wired or wireless, was brought up by an init script long, long before the GUI even let you log in. Regards, Daniel -- Digital Infrastructure Solutions -- making IT simple, stable and secure Phone: 0401 155 707 email: contact at digital-infrastructure.com.au http://digital-infrastructure.com.au/ From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Sat Mar 31 17:03:36 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:03:36 -0400 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703282227.59573.lists@ptfd.org> <87r6r8mved.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Mar 29, Daniel Pittman did say: > If you mean "it is hard to add a UUID to fstab" I would have to > disagree; running 'blkid /dev/sdXN' and putting the result into place is > probably less difficult than working out how to format the device in the > first place. Not for me. formatting the device and inserting the appropriate /dev/ data into things like /etc/fstab is easy. figuring out how to use an unfamiliar blkid to produce output that doesn't visually mean anything to me when I manually edit such files is hard to want to do. And would require leaning yet another tool... > Also, notably, the folks who are not comfortable with finding the UUID > will generally be using the friendly GUI tools that automate the process > for you. Ah but, I've yet to meet a gui tool I thought was even half as user friendly as even classic vi (never mind vim) is when the configuration file is reasonably well commented. And _IF_ I were comfortable with letting the gui do it, I'd probably not even have noticed the change to UUID, thus I wouldn't be among those who are NOT comfortable with finding the UUID...(though actually it's more a case of not being comfortable using an partition id that I can't visually recognize.) Though to be honest, I'm just as frustrated by the prevalence of the use of LABEL. I sometimes back up an entire linux file system via "tar -cpzf" And may restore it to a different partition later using "tar -xpzf" with - --numeric-owner (editing, of course, the relevant /etc/fstab and grub files involved) So the label often refers to a previous use for the partition and is confusing in places like the output of fsck... I find /dev/hdX and/or /dev/sdX is much easier to work with. Though if I were to start using removable media that didn't get a consistent device file, I'd use LABEL long before I'd put up with UUID, at least the label could be something intended to be recognized by a human... ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDpQcRZ/61mwhY94RAsnQAJ9sPFzS8issV+UWdXLWY04b5UZzsgCcCFOZ dnpL83r1JpQQZfvuzFDBytQ= =xtry -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <*> <*> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <> From jtwdyp at ttlc.net Sat Mar 31 17:09:33 2007 From: jtwdyp at ttlc.net (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:09:33 -0400 Subject: How to list an UUID? In-Reply-To: <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <87648l8o12.fsf@rimspace.net> <36135600703280808n6df2beecm4008e27d8335fe1f@mail.gmail.com> <87irckom4j.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Mar 29, Daniel Pittman did say: > Well, the UUID is absolutely stable in general -- most people install > one Linux and never change it. AFAIK nothing else should cause it to > change. > > Using the UUID means that your system will work if the layout of disk > devices changes -- that way when your devices are moved from hdX to sdX > in the transition to libata, or when you rearrange your SATA cables or > add another controller ... things still work. Personally I'd like to be able to tell kubuntu to NEVER allow UUIDs to be used even by "apt-get dist-upgrade"... I have several partitions on my NON_removable hard drives. some of which frequently get reformatted via mkfs... If /etc/fstab refers to them by UUID the next reboot complains... And when editing fstab and or especially grub, (where the automatically updated file didn't include the nice helpful comment lines with the /dev/hdX# information that apt-get replaced with UUIDs) I can much more easily understand which entry is what when it's referred to via /dev/hdX#... IF I was going to rearrange my hardware, I'd expect to have to edit these files. As I will no doubt have to do when/if kubuntu starts insisting on sdX instead of hdX ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGDpVNRZ/61mwhY94RAtJFAJ9y8gIgfODp4+Wcis8HuW1e80VeQQCdFJ4B KRE4Q0JFzre2TL8B/NrrZuQ= =yrM5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <> From scott at wangfu.org Sat Mar 31 20:24:24 2007 From: scott at wangfu.org (Scott Abbey) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:24:24 -0400 Subject: touch-pad mouse he^H^Hck: can "click" be limited to actual button? References: Message-ID: <20070331202426.40FDA401C07A@gendo.wangfu.org> Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > Can anyone tell me of a way I can get kubuntu or kde to disable "click > events" triggered by pressure on the touch-pad itself and to ONLY accept a > "click" from the actual mouse buttons??????????? Try KSynaptics. It does exactly what you ask, and more. You will likely have to modify your xorg.conf file manually to have full functionality, but it will explain the details when you start the app. $ apt-get install ksynaptics Regards, Scott From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 31 22:21:36 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:21:36 -0400 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703311745.59962.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <200703311745.59962.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200703311821.36795.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> I will try this next couple days....looks easy enough for a workaround. On Saturday 31 March 2007 11:45:59 am Nils Kassube wrote: > On Friday 30 March 2007 02:15, Larry Hartman wrote: > > I need to tweak a setting. > > > > When I log into KDE Korn, KWeather, Kopete, and Akregator all > > initialize prior to KNetworkmanager, causing multiple annoying advisory > > boxes to appear with messages like "unknown host" etc. KNetworkmanager > > does work, I just need to make this application first in sequence > > compared to the other internet-based applications. Can anyone advise? > > > > Larry > > You could put the script below in the directory $HOME/.kde/Autostart and > make it executable. The script waits until the network is available and > then starts the applications needing the network. Please check the > filenames and paths because I don't have all your applications installed. > > > Nils > > > #!/bin/sh > until $(/bin/ping -c 1 www.google.com >/dev/null 2>&1); do > sleep 1 > done > /usr/bin/korn & > /usr/bin/kweather & > /usr/bin/kopete & > /usr/bin/akregator & > exit 0 From larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 31 22:25:12 2007 From: larryhartman50 at bellsouth.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:25:12 -0400 Subject: KDE startup and wifi initialization under Feisty In-Reply-To: <200703311714.18086.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200703292015.52261.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> <878xdei54r.fsf@rimspace.net> <200703311714.18086.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703311825.12350.larryhartman50@bellsouth.net> > Sounds like Larry needs to get pppd or basic networking going from a > lower-level and not rely on KDE's stuff. I'd like to hear more about how to do this...even if I don't do it I can see definite educational benefits. I'll use the script workaround that Nils suggested until I understand what your are referring to here. Larry From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Mar 29 19:16:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:16:02 -0300 Subject: Moving applications between sessions References: <87ejn8olxt.fsf@rimspace.net> Message-ID: Daniel Pittman wrote: > Derek Broughton writes: > >> At any given time, I usually have two KDE sessions running (as the >> same user). One on my laptop display and one via NX. The NX one will >> be suspended if I'm not at work, and the laptop will be in my desk if >> I am. Sometimes, I'll find that an application that I want to run is >> already running in the other session and won't let me run multiple >> copies (eg, firefox & kontact). Is there a way to grab the >> application from display 0 and put it on display N? > > Short answer, no. Long answer, mostly no. Thanks. I didn't really require the technical answer, but it was interesting. > You can also use a "proxy" model: one where an application sits > between your X server and your X clients. If that proxy supports moving > applications from one display to another then this can work. > > That means the proxy needs to support every extension that the client > uses, though, and the complexity of that has meant that they actually > support only the very basic X protocol -- and, so, not much of what > recent clients actually want. Actually, as I understand it, I really should be able to at least work this in one direction by using the nxviewer from my DISPLAY :0 to connect to the suspended NX session, but I haven't figured that part out. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Mar 29 19:12:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:12:39 -0300 Subject: How to list an UUID? References: <36135600703280545y7f63a01drd75765954a4d5381@mail.gmail.com> <200703281211.37722.rbmorse@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7mftd4-10d.ln1@pointerstop.ca> Thilo Six wrote: > Ron Morse wrote the following on 28.03.2007 20:11: >> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:30:45 Thilo Six wrote: >>> man 8 vol_id >>> >>> bye Thilo >> >> That's actually pretty useless. Why make someone unmount a >> partition just to check a UUID? > > ?? > > $ mounthd | grep sda3 > /dev/sda3 on / type ext3 > (rw,noatime,nodiratime,errors=remount-ro,commit=21) $ sudo vol_id -l > /dev/sda3 ub > $ sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda3 > a763e9c8-cd16-413d-ac26-23b836c1e31b Ah. I think the problem is that it reports its errors incorrectly: Yesterday, like Ron, I was getting errors about a mounted partition (today I don't see any output at all) but I wasn't using sudo. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Mar 28 14:42:20 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:42:20 -0300 Subject: anyone running Kubuntu & vmware, or kubuntu & codeweavers? References: <806741.92262.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200703280900.35971.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: Art Alexion wrote: > On Tuesday 27 March 2007 19:44, Earl Violet wrote: >> did you try "sudo >> deborphan"? > > I installed deborphan and its GUI gtkorphan. I have run it a few times to > identify libs it thinks are orphaned, but it appears to identify some libs > as orphaned when I don't think they are. I am nervous about using it. I certainly wouldn't try to run deborphan unattended. For some reason there are always packages (particularly, ime, java libraries) that it thinks are unnecessary. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 21:32:31 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:32:31 +0200 Subject: LCD monitor recommendations? In-Reply-To: <460ADBCE.7030300@optonline.net> References: <45CA802E.4000301@optonline.net> <460ADBCE.7030300@optonline.net> Message-ID: <200703282332.31800.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > How do I know what the ¨correct settings¨ are? > Have a section under Section "Screen" with some reasonable resolutions: Identifier "Default Screen" Device "whatever" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection (Then restart X) That way you at least remove the problem of the res being out of range for the monitor. If you can get in , then fire up K->System Settings->Display and muck about in there - worked for me. hth /d From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Sat Mar 24 14:21:47 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:21:47 +0100 Subject: Core 2 Duo CPU temperature (with lm-sensors) Message-ID: <460533FB.3030509@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I found a way to compile the coretemp patch/module for the actual (2.6.17) edgy kernel... That way, you don't have to compile a custom kernel (you would still have to patch it) to get the C2D CPU temperature. I created a wiki page here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CoreTemp Please feel free to comment on this :) Cheers