Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops

Tue May 8 15:22:06 UTC 2007

I goofed. I meant to say "Mark", as in Shuttleworth, the lead 
co-founder of Ubuntu.  From what I've read, the whole premise of the 
Ubuntu project was free software, not getting it to the point where 
they could sell it.  My source of information was a local guy who 
builds systems from scratch and can't compete price wise with the big 
boys because he isn't big enough to get people like AOL to pay him to 
put 9.0 in his desktops.

Robert Mark Wallace
Tita P Wallace
Regina E P Wallace
R M Ceferino P Wallace
60 Delaware Road
Newburgh, NY 12550-3802
Telephone: (845) 566-0586

Why run an old edition of Windows when you can run the latest edition 
of Linux for free?  For a free download, go to WWW.Kubuntu.com

-----Original Message-----
From: manchicken at notsosoft.net
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops

  On Tuesday 08 May 2007 15:31:10 newburghmark at aol.com wrote:
> They would not have patents on 99% of it. I don't think that it was
> Bruce's intention to turn it into a profit making thing. I think that
> his issue was that the third world was being left on the wrong side of
> the digital divide.
>
>   The initial contact between Dell and Ubuntu was made by Dell. It 
turns
> out that, although "Dell recommends Windows Vista," the founder of 
Dell
> runs Ubuntu on HIS PC!!
>
>   I think that the whole project is going to get as far as costs. The
> hardware manufactures actually MAKE money on the contents of the hard
> drive, and they are selling the hardware itself below costs. Yes,
> Microsoft charges Dell maybe $100 to put vista on the hard drive, but
> then Dell turns around and sells putting things like teaser versions 
of
> Quicken and AOL 9.0 to those providers. On my new PC's the recovery
> CD's are set up in such a way as I can't restore Windows without
> restoring products like Symantec Anti Virus.
>
>   If you put Ubuntu on a hard drive, that revenue is gone and you have
> to try and make money on the hardware. It's cheaper to buy a system
> with Windows than no operating system for this reason.
>
>   I don't think that the numbers are there for this to be much more 
than
> an oddity. Even putting an Ubuntu CD loose in the box would imperil
> these marketing arrangements. You couldn't even put a flyer in the box
> that mentioned Linux without freaking out the makers of the game ware
> that give you an hour's free trial on something already on the hard
> drive.
>
>   The last time that I reinstalled XP, I spent over an hour just
> uninstalling crap that got reinstalled with XP.
>
>  Robert Mark Wallace
>  Tita P Wallace
>  Regina E P Wallace
>  R M Ceferino P Wallace
>  60 Delaware Road
>  Newburgh, NY 12550-3802
>  Telephone: (845) 566-0586
>
>   Why run an old edition of Windows when you can run the latest 
edition
> of Linux for free? For a free download, go to WWW.Kubuntu.com
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: shuston at ohiohills.com
>  To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>  Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 8:49 AM
>  Subject: RE: Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops
>
>  I have a question with this. If dell is going to offer Kubuntu, etc 
on
>   laptops, does this mean there is a possibility that Kubuntu could
> become
>   commercialized and not a free distro? If it is successful, could 
this
> be a
>  possibility?
>
>  Huston
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
>   [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Derek
> Broughton
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:29 AM
>  To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>  Subject: Re: Dell to offer Ubuntu 7.04 on selected desk/laptops
>
>  Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>  > Mark Wallace wrote:
>  >> It would be impractical to surf the net without flashplayer 
because
>  >> almost every page would have puzzle pieces on it.
>  >
>  > That's an exaggeration. The only flash content I /want/ to see is
>  > videos (why would you use a complex, proprietary, interactive
>  >
>   > environment just to show a video), and I can often find 
workarounds
>
> for
>
>  > them.
>
>  I agree. I never install flashplayer, and in the odd case that I 
really
>  need it I go to the Windows desktop. It can't be important.
>  --
>  derek
>
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I don't think it's a good idea to speculate like this.  There's no way 
any of
us could possibly have that information.  I would also like to know who 
Bruce
is.  Please take speculation like this offline.

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