From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 1 01:05:17 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:05:17 -0400 Subject: disk-on-key ownership In-Reply-To: <200710311927.14090.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <47288755.4060001@rmk.co.il> <200710311927.14090.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <4729264D.6030000@sbcglobal.net> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> How do I make it writable by yours truly? >> > > I don't know either, and spent some time puttering with a similar question > recently, to wind up as unenlightened than ever. It's not simple to figure > out. > > Anyway, I bet you five shekels the reason this isn't working is because nobody > at Ubuntu ever contemplated the possibility of a 1 GB memory stick with a > real filesystem on it. > I have had a similar prob trying to mount a one TB exterior hard drive, so the solution is coming. Just haven't heard or found it yet. Steven From dreadgeek at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 01:32:06 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:32:06 -0700 Subject: Debian package files open in Kate Message-ID: <200710311832.15591.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Hey folks: When I attempt to download a .deb file, it ends up opening in Kate. This isn't, of course, what I want it to do. In trying to fix this, I ended up deleting my x-deb definition in Konqueror out of frustration, thinking that it would default to 'ask to save' but that didn't work. So, if one of you would be so kind as to look in Konqueror and tell me what the definition for .deb is supposed to be so that it behaves right, I would be grateful. Thanks. Cheers Aj -- Aj Davis -- Dreadlocked science geek http://dreadgeek.blogspot.com "All tribal myths are true. For a given value of true." (Terry Pratchett -- The Last Continent) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The reason I'm asking is that I'm not sure if it is how I have Compiz configured or my system. Any thoughts/advice/inputs would be appreciated. Cheers Aj -- Aj Davis -- Dreadlocked science geek http://dreadgeek.blogspot.com The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. (Terry Pratchett) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 01:55:31 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:55:31 -0400 Subject: Compiz minimums In-Reply-To: <200710311844.09741.dreadgeek@gmail.com> References: <200710311844.09741.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0710311855t76c97d73x6aefd47129394f5f@mail.gmail.com> On Oct 31, 2007 9:43 PM, Adrienne J Davis wrote: > I would really like to use Compiz and KDE. I suspect, however, that I won't > be able to not and have it useable. But I'm not sure. I have installed it a > few times now, and it works but it is painfully slow for the most part which > makes it unusable. > > I know what the Compiz developers say are minimum to run Compiz but I'm > curious as to what people have found is minimal to be useable. > > Here's the relevant parts of my system: > > Proc:AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ 1,466.85 MHz > > RAM: 1G > > Video card: GeForce4 MX 440 64MB > > I suspect that my video card just can't handle it. The reason I'm asking is > that I'm not sure if it is how I have Compiz configured or my system. > > Any thoughts/advice/inputs would be appreciated. > > Cheers > Aj It looks like you should be fine with running Compiz. It's not as intensive as running a video game or anything. The determining factor may be what bus your video card is using, but even plain old PCI should handle it fine. BTW, this is just an educated guess and not a guarantee. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Nov 1 02:38:21 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:38:21 +0200 Subject: disk-on-key ownership In-Reply-To: <47288755.4060001@rmk.co.il> References: <47288755.4060001@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <47293C1D.9030507@rmk.co.il> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I just bought a Sandisk Cruzer Micro USB Flash Drive (1GB) and using > Knoppix and Qtparted, formatted it into 3 partitions - 630mb ext2, 250mb > linux-swap (for using with my [old] 64mb laptop [sans hard disk] with > Puppy Linux) and the rest as fat16. > > When I stick the USB drive in my Kubuntu box it auto mounts both the > ext2 and fat16 partitions. The fat16 gets 'User: nigel Group: root'. The > ext2 gets 'User: root Group: root'. I cannot write to the ext2 partition. > > I have tried changing the ownership by issuing: > sudo chown nigel /dev/sdb1 > but it remains the same - root root > > How do I make it writable by yours truly? > > Blessings, > > Nigel > Replying to myself: I stuck dsl-n (Damn Small Linux - not) in the laptop, mounted the USB drive, changed the 'group' ownership to 'users' (keeping the 'user' as root), added myself to the group 'users' on my Kubuntu box (logged out and back in again - for the group change to take effect) and now I can write to the USB drive on both the laptop and the Kubuntu box (and I suppose, any Linux box as all distros have the group 'users' as standard - just need to be added to said group). Any way, yes the life of my USB stick is going to be limited but I don't use the laptop that much. Perhaps I will look at one of those USB sticks with a hard drive. Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From dreadgeek at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 03:21:31 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:31 -0700 Subject: Does Gutsy have a memory leak? In-Reply-To: <472746FB.50208@oem.doe.gov> References: <472746FB.50208@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <200710312021.36241.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Doug: I found the same thing (my machine isn't nearly as powerful as yours but the point still stands). I got rid of Beagle and installed Google Desktop and have been much happier for it. Cheers Aj On Tuesday 30 October 2007 08:00:11 Douglas Phillipson wrote: > Since upgrading to Gutsy, my Dual Athlon machine runs out of memory > (2GB) and the disk starts thrashing in swap. Everything slows to a > crawl and the machine is non-responsive. This occurs in KDE with only > Firefox and Thunderbird running. It might be related to the Beagle daemon. > > Has anyone else seen this behavior? > > Thanks > > Doug P -- Aj Davis -- Dreadlocked science geek http://dreadgeek.blogspot.com The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. (Terry Pratchett) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From kubuntu at wastedtimes.net Thu Nov 1 03:53:56 2007 From: kubuntu at wastedtimes.net (Mark Kelly) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 03:53:56 +0000 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200711010353.56489.kubuntu@wastedtimes.net> Hi. On Wednesday 31 October 2007 15:43, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have been working hard to get a friend interested in Linux, and > specifically Kubuntu. I have found this user group very helpful and > useful. How can I search for similar groups in other parts of the > country please? (He actually lives in Warminster.) Assuming this is Warminster in the UK, have a look here: http://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/index.php HTH From karlok at fastmail.fm Thu Nov 1 04:14:34 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:14:34 -0700 Subject: Debian package files open in Kate In-Reply-To: <200710311832.15591.dreadgeek@gmail.com> References: <200710311832.15591.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: <472952AA.4090705@fastmail.fm> Adrienne J Davis wrote: > Hey folks: > > When I attempt to download a .deb file, it ends up opening in Kate. This > isn't, of course, what I want it to do. In trying to fix this, I ended > up deleting my x-deb definition in Konqueror out of frustration, > thinking that it would default to 'ask to save' but that didn't work. > So, if one of you would be so kind as to look in Konqueror and tell me > what the definition for .deb is supposed to be so that it behaves right, > I would be grateful. Thanks. In my Konqueror it's /usr/share/applications/kde/gdebi-kde.desktop Karl From kc9aae1 at charter.net Thu Nov 1 06:08:51 2007 From: kc9aae1 at charter.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:08:51 -0500 Subject: Compiz minimums In-Reply-To: <200710311844.09741.dreadgeek@gmail.com> References: <200710311844.09741.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47296D73.8080402@charter.net> Adrienne J Davis wrote: > I would really like to use Compiz and KDE. I suspect, however, that I > won't be able to not and have it useable. But I'm not sure. I have > installed it a few times now, and it works but it is painfully slow for > the most part which makes it unusable. > > I know what the Compiz developers say are minimum to run Compiz but I'm > curious as to what people have found is minimal to be useable. > > Here's the relevant parts of my system: > > Proc:AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ 1,466.85 MHz > > RAM: 1G > > Video card: GeForce4 MX 440 64MB > > I suspect that my video card just can't handle it. The reason I'm asking > is that I'm not sure if it is how I have Compiz configured or my system. > > Any thoughts/advice/inputs would be appreciated. I have a system pretty close to yours, with the exceptions being that I have only 512MB of ram, (plan on upgrading that) CPU is 1.6 MHz, and my video card is a Nvidia FX5500 with 256MB. (AGP 8X) If anything, I'd say your video card could use an upgrade. My system actually runs smooth, as long as I don't open to many applications at the same time. I'll be tossing in 2GB of ram shortly, so that should take care of that issue. :) Dana -- A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it's not open. - Frank Zappa From nolancheck at hotmail.com Thu Nov 1 06:07:51 2007 From: nolancheck at hotmail.com (Nolan Check) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:07:51 -0700 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! Message-ID: The question is in the subject line. Here it is again: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! This is using the KNetworkManager thing. It always used to configure automatically. Then, I decided to fiddle around with my network. I experimented using a manual network configuration (there's a thing called "Manual configuration" when you right-click tray icon). Now I set the network back the way it was...but I can't make it automatically configure anymore! Is there any way to switch it back to Automatic? From bach.michael at gmx.net Thu Nov 1 08:48:28 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:48:28 +0100 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> Nolan Check wrote: > The question is in the subject line. Here it is again: > > I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! > > This is using the KNetworkManager thing. It always used to configure > automatically. Then, I decided to fiddle around with my network. I > experimented using a manual network configuration (there's a thing > called "Manual configuration" when you right-click tray icon). Now I set > the network back the way it was...but I can't make it automatically > configure anymore! Is there any way to switch it back to Automatic? > > Yes, there is. The manual configuration writes into /etc/network/interfaces In there, comment out everything but the loopback device. Then I usually quit and restart the knetworkmanager. However, occasionally (and I haven't found a procedure to reliably repeat this effect), a residual task named "network-manager" somehow runs with eating up to like 80 to 90 percent of the cpu power. I then close knetworkmanager, kill this process manually and restart knetworkmanager. Another way to restart the network is to simply issue a restart of the dbus service: "/etc/init.d/dbus restart". However, on my T23, every dbus restart diables the direct rendering for my graphics card. Mike From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 09:04:25 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:04:25 +0200 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! In-Reply-To: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> References: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711011104.25244.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > dbus service: "/etc/init.d/dbus restart". However, on my T23, every dbus > restart diables the direct rendering for my graphics card. Can't you also, from a command line: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ? \d From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 1 02:46:01 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:46:01 -0300 Subject: Permission Problems References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <3935959.anUIHJOOFf@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710312315.51798.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <8186064.3BmXKJMWth@cedar.serverforest.com> Mark Fraser wrote: > Thing is it worked OK with 7.04, both with sudo and kdesu. Now on 7.10 I > get those lines no matter what I'm trying to do as root. But those lines have nothing to do with the problem (and I guarantee they showed up in Feisty, too) - and konqueror _is_ running as root. Unfortunately, it's not passing that on to programs you invoke _from_ konqueror. -- derek From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 1 13:17:24 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:17:24 -0400 Subject: Permission Problems In-Reply-To: <8186064.3BmXKJMWth@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4728AF88.5030009@sbcglobal.net> <3935959.anUIHJOOFf@cedar.serverforest.com> <200710312315.51798.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <8186064.3BmXKJMWth@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <4729D1E4.4060504@sbcglobal.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Mark Fraser wrote: > > >> Thing is it worked OK with 7.04, both with sudo and kdesu. Now on 7.10 I >> get those lines no matter what I'm trying to do as root. >> > > But those lines have nothing to do with the problem (and I guarantee they > showed up in Feisty, too) - and konqueror _is_ running as root. > Unfortunately, it's not passing that on to programs you invoke _from_ > konqueror. > Yeah that's exactly what i got, has there been a bug report file on this ? From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 13:35:21 2007 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:05:21 +0530 Subject: Distribution upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 hangs on "configuring libgcc1" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78323d480711010635h514aa2b1u8c310d81cfe4a25c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/29/07, darshak shah wrote: > I tried to upgrade from 7.04 version to 7.10 using the adept package > manager. > I had kept the machine in the office over the weekend for installation, it > had successfully downloaded all the upgrades, > And when it tried to install them, it was hung on "configuring libgcc1" for > a long time. > darshak at darshak-machine:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0006' near line 2 package > `libc6': > `triggers-pendi' is not allowed for third (status) word in `status' field > > I have no idea how to move ahead from this step. > I want to upgrade my distribution to 7.10, and I have all the necessary > packages downloaded in my "/var/cache/apt/archives/" which is approx 1.4 GB, > which I do not want the apt manager to download again. > How did you solve that finally ? Thanks A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc From bach.michael at gmx.net Thu Nov 1 13:40:49 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:40:49 +0100 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! In-Reply-To: <200711011104.25244.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> <200711011104.25244.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4729D761.9020007@gmx.net> Donn wrote: >> dbus service: "/etc/init.d/dbus restart". However, on my T23, every dbus >> restart diables the direct rendering for my graphics card. > Can't you also, from a command line: > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart > ? > > \d > Well, you can, but I doubt the effect will be the same. If I understand /etc/init.de/network correctly, it will bring up network devices as they are configured in /etc/network/interfaces. Since only loopback is configured there, it won't be of much use. Unless: /etc/init.d/network also brings up the kde network manager, which I haven't observed it to do so. Mike From whitover-1 at btconnect.com Thu Nov 1 13:55:52 2007 From: whitover-1 at btconnect.com (John Hansen) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:55:52 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu 7.10 network problem Message-ID: <4729DAE8.9060905@btconnect.com> I upgraded from Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 yesterday using Adept. All seemed well except I cannot connect to my 3Com ADSL router. I get the message: "disconnected". It worked without trouble with 7.04. How do I now proceed? John From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 1 13:43:18 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:43:18 -0300 Subject: Debian package files open in Kate References: <200710311832.15591.dreadgeek@gmail.com> <472952AA.4090705@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <2292182.WUIrxDeqW0@cedar.serverforest.com> Karl wrote: > Adrienne J Davis wrote: >> Hey folks: >> >> When I attempt to download a .deb file, it ends up opening in Kate. This >> isn't, of course, what I want it to do. In trying to fix this, I ended >> up deleting my x-deb definition in Konqueror out of frustration, >> thinking that it would default to 'ask to save' but that didn't work. >> So, if one of you would be so kind as to look in Konqueror and tell me >> what the definition for .deb is supposed to be so that it behaves right, >> I would be grateful. Thanks. > > In my Konqueror it's /usr/share/applications/kde/gdebi-kde.desktop What version are you running, Adrienne? I'm pretty sure I didn't have this in Feisty, but I do in Gutsy (it certainly treats them as text files on the Feisty machine that's been upgrading Ubuntu versions for years, but I'm not sure about the one where I installed Feisty fresh and now has Gutsy). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 1 13:47:48 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:47:48 -0300 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! References: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> Message-ID: <2296539.tKF5tYb5lh@cedar.serverforest.com> Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Nolan Check wrote: >> The question is in the subject line. Here it is again: >> >> I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! >> >> This is using the KNetworkManager thing. It always used to configure >> automatically. Then, I decided to fiddle around with my network. I >> experimented using a manual network configuration (there's a thing >> called "Manual configuration" when you right-click tray icon). Now I set >> the network back the way it was...but I can't make it automatically >> configure anymore! Is there any way to switch it back to Automatic? That's _still_ a problem? I would have thought the new network-manager version would have solved that... >> >> > Yes, there is. > The manual configuration writes into /etc/network/interfaces > In there, comment out everything but the loopback device. > > Then I usually quit and restart the knetworkmanager. However, > occasionally (and I haven't found a procedure to reliably repeat this > effect), a residual task named "network-manager" somehow runs with > eating up to like 80 to 90 percent of the cpu power. I then close > knetworkmanager, kill this process manually and restart knetworkmanager. knetworkmanager is just a front-end, so killing it and restarting it probably doesn't do the job. After changing network settings, I've always restarted dbus. > > Another way to restart the network is to simply issue a restart of the > dbus service: "/etc/init.d/dbus restart". However, on my T23, every dbus > restart diables the direct rendering for my graphics card. Ah, well that could be a problem :-( There should be a way to have dbus just restart network-manager (not knetworkmanager), but restarting dbus was always easier for me than finding out how to start a single process under it. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 1 13:49:58 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:49:58 -0300 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! References: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> <200711011104.25244.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1408473.f3xkKJZtxA@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> dbus service: "/etc/init.d/dbus restart". However, on my T23, every dbus >> restart diables the direct rendering for my graphics card. > Can't you also, from a command line: > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart No. All that does is "ifdown ...; ifup ..." based on the contents of /etc/network/interfaces. Since that would now be empty except for "lo", that's all that would be restarted. -- derek From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Nov 1 15:36:31 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:36:31 +0200 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200710291833.47009.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <638787.46603.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200710291833.47009.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <4729F27F.2040504@rmk.co.il> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Sunday 28 October 2007 15:45, Earl Violet wrote: >> --- Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If I plug in my "SanDisk" as user A, A becomes the owner. >>>> Then if I change session to user B, B cannot write to the >>> "SanDisk" >>> >>>> I tried to su as user A (perry) and use chmod, but to no avail: >>>> I was able to decrease the permissions to 700 (that made the >>> drive not >>> >>>> accessible at all for user B) >>>> But trying to increase the permission at 777 had no effect for >>> user B and the >>> >>>> setting was back at 755 after su(ing) again to user A. >>>> >>>> I also explored the system settings and got the access right >>> bars ungreyed >>> >>>> (clickable) in the access-right tab of the properties for the >>> disk ( and also >>> >>>> managed to have executable programs work directly from the drive) >>>> That was of no help because I could not make those permissions >>> stick(y) >>> >>>> Had no luck on Google either. >>>> >>>> >>>> Solutions: >>>> 1) Pull out and plug in again the disk ("safely remove does not >>> work here") >>> >>>> _simple but not elegant. >>>> 2) Change session to user A, "safely remove" and change again to >>> user B. >>> >>>> _tedious, and does not work unless disk is physically removed. >>>> 3) su as A and use command lines to write. >>>> _my wife can't do that ;-) >>>> >>>> 4) ***What do you suggest?*** >>>> >>>> Thanks for pointers Perry >>> There is a similar problem with other auto-mounted media devices. >>> The same thing happens with a data CD or a digital camera (USB). My >>> >>> daughters' computer will sometimes have 2 active users (with one of >>> them >>> having inserted a data CD) and then I come along (and log into my >>> account) to do something with the cdrom and can't unmount it >>> because >>> there are already 2 users 'accessing' it. I try to eject/unmount it >>> but >>> get the 'Device in Use' message (or something similar) - so I >>> switch >>> users and try again only to get the same message. I have to log >>> everybody out except for one user then eject/unmount it. >>> >>> There must be a better way to manage auto-mounted media devices. >>> >>> Blessings, >>> >>> Nigel >> I have a similar problem with my USB stick. > IMHO only to a certain extent. >> I can copy a file to it >> but when it comes to loading it on another computer, > Do you mean you cannot read from the stick or copy its files to the 2nd > computer? >> I need to move it as root and change the permissions. > The permissions of the stick or of the files within? >> Earl >> > > Hi Earl, > > I wouldn't be too surprised if you could solve your problem before Nigel or I. > As for Nigel's CD I couldn't eject my USB stick and our problem is probably > related to the way "this automagic stuff" mounts the volumes. > Perhaps everybody with some version of Linux has these problems (I tried my > stick with 2 users under M$, both could write to it). We may call that a bug > (unless it is an option). > > Your problem is much more serious, in the sense that it invalidates the whole > purpose of the USB stick (file transfer), but it may be simpler to solve > (just a guess). > The great difference between your case and ours is that you unplugged and > replugged the stick... the person on the 2nd machine should then become the > owner of the stick, so something else must be locking your files. > I would first check if the problem doesn't come from the permissions of the > folders and files inside the device. Try it on M$ perhaps. Don't give up too > soon. > > cheers Perry > This might help: I stuck dsl-n (Damn Small Linux - not) Live CD in the laptop, mounted the USB drive, changed the 'group' ownership to 'users' (keeping the 'user' as root), added myself to the group 'users' on my Kubuntu box (logged out and back in again - for the group change to take effect) and now I can write to the USB drive on both the laptop and the Kubuntu box (and I suppose, any Linux box as all distros have the group 'users' as standard - just need to be added to group 'users'). Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From paulvarjak at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 16:19:53 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:19:53 +0100 Subject: kde4beta3 In-Reply-To: <200710311428.36628.sniffy@rogers.com> References: <5e33e3860710311118p5aa50db6n985c5bea391d75a2@mail.gmail.com> <200710311428.36628.sniffy@rogers.com> Message-ID: <5e33e3860711010919x6aec1df4rb253697423f4695a@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Chris. Paul. On 10/31/07, Chris Gow wrote: > > On Wednesday 31 October 2007 14:18:14 Paul wrote: > > I've run kde 4 following this instructions: > > > > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php > > > > I made the steps needed to open a full session, but the only thing I had > > once opened was an empty desktop with a very big horrible flower in the > > middle, a clock, and nothing else. > > > > Maybe I'm missing something... ? > not really, to run applications you need to right-click on the desktop and > select Run Application or runner (can't recall off the top of my head the > exact string) and type in the actual application name (eg. dolphin, > konqueror, kontact, etc...) > > If you hover over the big gear in the upper left corner you'll be able to > add > some additional 'plasmoids'. Not all of them worked for me. I was able to > get > the photo one and the battery one to work. the panel and application > launcher > didn't work > > I'd be curious to know if kubuntu will be releasing beta4 packages as beta > 4 > was released yesterday > > > -- chris > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 11:18:03 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:18:03 +0100 Subject: kdm login In-Reply-To: <17827727.lXiz6r8EdE@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710311811.51390.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <17827727.lXiz6r8EdE@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711011218.03774.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Wednesday 31 October 2007 23:42:46 Derek Broughton wrote: > No.  Actually, I had my kdm login screen set to pick from a list of users, > with pictures - just like Windows XP! - back in KDE 2.0, and like it that > way.  Some KDE update (going from Corel Linux, to Debian, to Ubuntu) lost > that, and I didn't care enough to try to get it back, but I'm happy to see > it show up on my new Gutsy kdm screen. Oops, I've got it upside-down then. I did a fresh install while on gutsy tribe 4 and I've had the user list ever since then and wanted to change it. -- lanzen From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Thu Nov 1 16:54:24 2007 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (SteVe Cook) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:54:24 +0000 Subject: Compiz minimums In-Reply-To: <200710311844.09741.dreadgeek@gmail.com> References: <200710311844.09741.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: <472A04C0.5010400@googlemail.com> Adrienne J Davis wrote: > I would really like to use Compiz and KDE. I suspect, however, that I > won't be able to not and have it useable. But I'm not sure. I have > installed it a few times now, and it works but it is painfully slow for > the most part which makes it unusable. > > I know what the Compiz developers say are minimum to run Compiz but I'm > curious as to what people have found is minimal to be useable. > > Here's the relevant parts of my system: > > Proc:AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ 1,466.85 MHz > > RAM: 1G > > Video card: GeForce4 MX 440 64MB > > I suspect that my video card just can't handle it. The reason I'm asking > is that I'm not sure if it is how I have Compiz configured or my system. > > Any thoughts/advice/inputs would be appreciated. > Which version of k/ubuntu are you using? I have Gutsy running compiz, with the same video card, a 900MHz PIII and 768MB RAM, 1280 X 960 display. I could never get it to run smoothly under feisty. Steve From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 1 19:10:24 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:10:24 -0400 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <20071031160527.afabb769.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <20071031160527.afabb769.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <472A24A0.8040007@sbcglobal.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400 > Bruce Marshall wrote: > > >> On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> >>> I have been working hard to get a friend interested in Linux, and >>> specifically Kubuntu. I have found this user group very helpful and >>> useful. How can I search for similar groups in other parts of the >>> country please? (He actually lives in Warminster.) >>> >> a) This is not a user group. >> >> > My mistake. So what is it then? > > > >> b) Try google >> >> > I tried first, but did not get on very well. Perhaps I asked the wrong > questions? > > Neil > > This a site that one can come to seek help in using Ubuntu, Kubuntu. From phillipd at oem.doe.gov Thu Nov 1 19:58:56 2007 From: phillipd at oem.doe.gov (Douglas Phillipson) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:58:56 -0700 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono Message-ID: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> I really want to expunge all the mono junk in Gutsy. What apps might I find breaking if I do, besides that darn buggy dog, Beagle? Thanks Doug P From devriesbj at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 20:15:52 2007 From: devriesbj at gmail.com (Brad De Vries) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:15:52 -0400 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <20071031160527.afabb769.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <20071031160527.afabb769.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: On 10/31/07, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:56:05 -0400 > Bruce Marshall wrote: > > > On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > I have been working hard to get a friend interested in Linux, and > > > specifically Kubuntu. I have found this user group very helpful and > > > useful. How can I search for similar groups in other parts of the > > > country please? (He actually lives in Warminster.) > > > > a) This is not a user group. > > > My mistake. So what is it then? This is an e-mail distribution list. When you send an e-mail message to kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, that message gets distributed to subscribers all over the world. The purpose of a list like this is to share information through questions, answers, comments, suggestions, etc. with people that have a similar interest. In the case of this list, the Kubuntu operating system. > > b) Try google > > > I tried first, but did not get on very well. Perhaps I asked the wrong > questions? If you're looking for a regional user's group pertaining to all things Linux, I would suggest starting at http://www.linux.org/groups. From there you can drill-down to a region nearest you. The purpose of a user's group is to meet people that have similar interests. > Neil HTH, Brad. From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Nov 1 20:45:38 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:45:38 -0400 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <472A24A0.8040007@sbcglobal.net> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <20071031160527.afabb769.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <472A24A0.8040007@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <472A3AF2.5040403@mike-leone.com> Jim wrote: > This a site that one can come to seek help in using Ubuntu, Kubuntu. Well, for me, it's a mailing list, and not a site. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 1 21:06:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:06:13 +0200 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono In-Reply-To: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> References: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <200711012306.13912.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I really want to expunge all the mono junk in Gutsy. What apps might I > find breaking if I do, besides that darn buggy dog, Beagle? The very cool Tomboy note app. Which I wish, oh wish, was just written in plain old gtk, but there you go. \d From nolancheck at hotmail.com Thu Nov 1 23:00:42 2007 From: nolancheck at hotmail.com (Nolan Check) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:00:42 -0700 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! References: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> Message-ID: Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Nolan Check wrote: >> The question is in the subject line. Here it is again: >> >> I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! >> >> This is using the KNetworkManager thing. It always used to configure >> automatically. Then, I decided to fiddle around with my network. I >> experimented using a manual network configuration (there's a thing >> called "Manual configuration" when you right-click tray icon). Now I set >> the network back the way it was...but I can't make it automatically >> configure anymore! Is there any way to switch it back to Automatic? >> >> > Yes, there is. > The manual configuration writes into /etc/network/interfaces > In there, comment out everything but the loopback device. Thanks. The network configures automatically on start-up again (I replaced the interfaces file with a backup it made when I did the changes). The internet works fine. Unfortunately, KNetworkManager remains broken. When I hover over the tray icon, it says "Manual network configuration". When I click it, the Connection Status box says "No active device". When I right-click it, I get a menu like this: "Manual configuration, Options, Help, Quit". From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Nov 2 00:25:31 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:25:31 +0100 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! In-Reply-To: References: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> Message-ID: <472A6E7B.7060805@gmx.net> Nolan Check wrote: > Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > >> Nolan Check wrote: >>> The question is in the subject line. Here it is again: >>> >>> I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! >>> >>> This is using the KNetworkManager thing. It always used to configure >>> automatically. Then, I decided to fiddle around with my network. I >>> experimented using a manual network configuration (there's a thing >>> called "Manual configuration" when you right-click tray icon). Now I set >>> the network back the way it was...but I can't make it automatically >>> configure anymore! Is there any way to switch it back to Automatic? >>> >>> >> Yes, there is. >> The manual configuration writes into /etc/network/interfaces >> In there, comment out everything but the loopback device. > > Thanks. The network configures automatically on start-up again (I replaced > the interfaces file with a backup it made when I did the changes). The > internet works fine. So it works after reboot. I assume you're on a wired network and your router provides ip and dns via dhcp to your computer. > Unfortunately, KNetworkManager remains broken. When I > hover over the tray icon, it says "Manual network configuration". When I > click it, the Connection Status box says "No active device". When I > right-click it, I get a menu like this: "Manual configuration, Options, > Help, Quit". Sounds familiar to me! I had exactly the same problem. Problem here, I can only provide some vague information on how I fixed it. Try closing the knetworkmanager. Then doublecheck the /etc/network/interfaces (funny how tab-completion confuses me, I punched the tab-key twice while typing this statement :) and check for uncommented entries no related to loopback. Now, make sure there are no residual network managers running in the background, run "ps aux | grep net", the list that appears should not bring up any process called networkmanager (although you will maybe find the grep process and inetd). If there are any networkmanager tasks, kill them using -9. Now restart knetworkmanager, see if a device is found and if it's automatically configured. If the previous procedure brought you back to where you were, repeat until the point before to restart knetworkmanager, instead restart the dbus service "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart". From nolancheck at hotmail.com Fri Nov 2 03:07:09 2007 From: nolancheck at hotmail.com (Nolan Check) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:07:09 -0700 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid of it?! References: <472992DC.9090302@gmx.net> <472A6E7B.7060805@gmx.net> Message-ID: Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: >> Unfortunately, KNetworkManager remains broken. When I >> hover over the tray icon, it says "Manual network configuration". When I >> click it, the Connection Status box says "No active device". When I >> right-click it, I get a menu like this: "Manual configuration, Options, >> Help, Quit". > > Sounds familiar to me! I had exactly the same problem. Problem here, I > can only provide some vague information on how I fixed it. Try closing > the knetworkmanager. Then doublecheck the /etc/network/interfaces (funny > how tab-completion confuses me, I punched the tab-key twice while typing > this statement :) and check for uncommented entries no related to > loopback. Now, make sure there are no residual network managers running in > the background, run "ps aux | grep net", the list that appears should not > bring up any process called networkmanager (although you will maybe find > the grep process and inetd). If there are any networkmanager tasks, kill > them using -9. Now restart knetworkmanager, see if a device is found and > if it's automatically configured. If the previous procedure brought you > back to where you were, repeat until the point before to restart > knetworkmanager, instead restart the dbus service "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus > restart". It's working now. Thanks a lot! Turns out when I replaced interfaces with the backup, it still had an "eth0" entry. The next step is to find whoever's responsible for this and yell at 'em. :) "WHERE'S THE OPTION FOR MAKING IT AUTOMATIC AGAIN?!" From adeanom at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 03:47:54 2007 From: adeanom at gmail.com (Anom) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:47:54 +0700 Subject: Problem with laptop after upgrading to 7.10 Message-ID: Hi all, yesterday i just upgraded my feisty to gutsy using the alternate cd. And I also have update all the package. But right now some of the key in my laptop doesn't work right. That key is fn+up-arrow and fn+down-arrow for changing screen brightness, and also fn+right-key and fn+left-key for change the speaker volume. no change at all when i press those keys. It is working when I'm still using feisty. fyi, I'm using lenovo 3000 y400. TiA -- http://a3log.wordpress.com From sundar261 at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 04:35:32 2007 From: sundar261 at gmail.com (Sundar) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:35:32 -0400 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible Message-ID: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> Hi, When I log into kde session, I am able to see only the desktop wallpaper. There is no panel or windows or desktop icons visible. When I do Alt+f1 I get the kmenu but once i select an application, only the wallpaper is displayed. I was able to work with kde for sometime. I was trying to install and run screenlets on kde when I suddenly lost (only wallpaper display) the kde session. I am also running compiz (not sure if it crashed). compiz was running for atleast 10 days without any issues. I tried to re-login/restart but the same result. When I login I am able to see panel and all the desktop icons, then the screen goes blank and comes back with only the wallpaper. Alt+tab does not work too. When I login to gnome everything compiz+screenlets works well. I am using gusty. Any pointers would be helpful. kde is currently not usable at all!! -Sundar From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 2 07:37:25 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:37:25 +0100 Subject: I made a "Manual network configuration"...now how do I get rid =?iso-8859-1?q?of=09it=3F!?= In-Reply-To: References: <472A6E7B.7060805@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711020837.26082.kassube@gmx.net> Nolan Check wrote: > The next step is to find whoever's responsible for this and yell > at 'em. :) "WHERE'S THE OPTION FOR MAKING IT AUTOMATIC AGAIN?!" How about ? Nils From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 2 07:54:13 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:54:13 +0100 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible In-Reply-To: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> References: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> Message-ID: <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> Sundar wrote: > When I log into kde session, I am able to see only the desktop > wallpaper. There is no panel or windows or desktop icons visible. When > I do Alt+f1 I get the kmenu but once i select an application, only the > wallpaper is displayed. > > When I login to gnome everything compiz+screenlets works well. With GNOME rename the directory /home//.kde to something like /home//.kde.bak to get a fresh KDE environment. Then login to KDE and check if the problem is still there. If everything is OK, there is a problem with some configuration of the previous KDE environment. Now, if everything works, search for important things in the old directory (now .kde.bak) and move them to the new directory (.kde). E.g. in /home//.kde.bak/share/apps/kmail you can find your old mail (if you are using kmail). Nils From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Fri Nov 2 08:48:42 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:48:42 +0000 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200710311156.05487.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <20071031160527.afabb769.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <20071102084842.eb45c839.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:15:52 -0400 "Brad De Vries" wrote: > On 10/31/07, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > a) This is not a user group. > > > > > My mistake. So what is it then? > > This is an e-mail distribution list. When you send an e-mail message > to kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, that message gets distributed to > subscribers all over the world. The purpose of a list like this is to > share information through questions, answers, comments, suggestions, > etc. with people that have a similar interest. In the case of this > list, the Kubuntu operating system. > Thanks for the explanation - I hadn't understood the distinction. So just this one email list serves the whole world! That's great. > > > b) Try google > > > I have now been told about www.lug.org.uk/lugs/index.php which gives me the information that I needed. Many thanks Neil Winchurst From paulvarjak at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 13:24:41 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:24:41 +0100 Subject: symlinks in dolphin Message-ID: <5e33e3860711020624t6ca56929we7d78d20fc0ee6dc@mail.gmail.com> hello. I'm using dolphin since my upgrade to 7.10 and I also use the monochrome icons by Danny Allen. My only concern is that with this set of icons Dolphin uses the same icon for directories and for sym links to directories. Is there any way to change this? Thanks Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spwhite at freesurf.ch Fri Nov 2 14:08:40 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:08:40 +0100 Subject: User groups In-Reply-To: <20071102084842.eb45c839.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071031154329.69002b92.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <20071102084842.eb45c839.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200711021508.40958.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Friday 02 November 2007 09:48, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:15:52 -0400 > > "Brad De Vries" wrote: > > On 10/31/07, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > > a) This is not a user group. Very minor confusion, my answer on bottom of page. > > > > > > My mistake. So what is it then? > > > > This is an e-mail distribution list.  When you send an e-mail message > > to kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, that message gets distributed to > > subscribers all over the world.  The purpose of a list like this is to > > share information through questions, answers, comments, suggestions, > > etc. with people that have a similar interest.  In the case of this > > list, the Kubuntu operating system. > > Thanks for the explanation - I hadn't understood the distinction. So > just this one email list serves the whole world! That's great. Not just this one email. You can find Kubuntu lists in dozens of lauguages. I choose this one because it has more traffic than the french one and I'm not too fluent with all the other tongues ;-)) (snip) > > If you're looking for a regional user's group pertaining to all things > > Linux, I would suggest starting at http://www.linux.org/groups. From > > there you can drill-down to a region nearest you. The purpose of a > > user's group is to meet people that have similar interests. IMHO the distinction between a list and a user group is somewhat academic. For example I subscribed to "SIUG", the Swiss Internet user Group (Switzerland is a tiny country). In practice it looks just like this mailing list but occasionnaly they would annouce a meeting at some place, 3 or 4 hours away from mine. Meeting those people is problematic, they might as well reside on another continent or another world. Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #216: What office are you in? Oh, that one. Did you know that your building was built over the university's first nuclear research site? And wow, aren't you the lucky one, your office is right over where the core is buried! From k7qo at commspeed.net Fri Nov 2 17:01:49 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:01:49 -0700 Subject: Adept Updater Message-ID: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> The past two days, the adept updater red triangle has been showing up to note a software upgrade is available. The two modules involved are mencode and mplayer. Both are shown as upgradable (upgradeable? no word in any dictionary I own), but when I change to install the Requested status changes to BREAK(upgrade). Has any one else seen this behaviour? FYI Chuck From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 17:10:44 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:10:44 -0500 Subject: Adept Updater In-Reply-To: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <720b310e0711021010m2efdf41bld65474c9fc747e15@mail.gmail.com> On 11/2/07, adams wrote: > The past two days, the adept updater red triangle has been > showing up to note a software upgrade is available. > > The two modules involved are mencode and mplayer. > > Both are shown as upgradable (upgradeable? no word > in any dictionary I own), but when I change to install > the Requested status changes to BREAK(upgrade). > > Has any one else seen this behaviour? > > FYI > > Chuck Did you edit your sources.list files to re-enable the repo's they disabled during upgrade ? Greg From mdhirsch at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 17:17:53 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:17:53 -0600 Subject: How do you find the dependencies an app requires In-Reply-To: <47289ECD.2030602@oem.doe.gov> References: <47289ECD.2030602@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0711021017l4060540eoa376e14a986284ad@mail.gmail.com> On 10/31/07, Douglas Phillipson wrote: > How do you discover all an applications dependencies? Can you give us more context? If you are trying to install a .deb, the package should tell you what is required. Of course, sometimes is is wrong, but that is what it should do. Michael From sundar261 at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 17:20:23 2007 From: sundar261 at gmail.com (Sundar) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:20:23 -0400 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible In-Reply-To: <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> References: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1194024023.7000.5.camel@appu> > With GNOME rename the directory /home//.kde to something > like /home//.kde.bak to get a fresh KDE environment. Then > login to KDE and check if the problem is still there. If everything is > OK, there is a problem with some configuration of the previous KDE > environment. Now, if everything works, search for important things in the > old directory (now .kde.bak) and move them to the new directory (.kde). > E.g. in /home//.kde.bak/share/apps/kmail you can find your old > mail (if you are using kmail). Thanks Nils!! That helped. I am able to log into new KDE without issues But is there a log which I can check to identify the cause of this problem? I just dont want to get into the same problem again. From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 2 17:43:00 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 18:43:00 +0100 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible In-Reply-To: <1194024023.7000.5.camel@appu> References: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> <1194024023.7000.5.camel@appu> Message-ID: <200711021843.00803.kassube@gmx.net> Sundar wrote: > > With GNOME rename the directory /home//.kde to something > > like /home//.kde.bak to get a fresh KDE environment. Then > > login to KDE and check if the problem is still there. If everything > > is OK, there is a problem with some configuration of the previous KDE > > environment. Now, if everything works, search for important things in > > the old directory (now .kde.bak) and move them to the new directory > > (.kde). E.g. in /home//.kde.bak/share/apps/kmail you can > > find your old mail (if you are using kmail). > > Thanks Nils!! That helped. I am able to log into new KDE without issues > But is there a log which I can check to identify the cause of this > problem? I just dont want to get into the same problem again. I don't know of a log for changes in KDE settings. I would try to remember which setting I had changed just before the trouble started and avoid to do that again. And it might be a good idea to backup the .kde directory before you change any settings. But there is another option. You could compare the config files in the old and new directory. However, that is rather time consuming and maybe you don't find the faulty setting because you just don't know what all those things mean. I wouldn't know it anyway, and therefore I wouldn't take the time for a comparison. Nils From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 2 14:10:33 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:10:33 -0300 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible References: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <10977853.pzpexfGDbU@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Sundar wrote: >> When I log into kde session, I am able to see only the desktop >> wallpaper. There is no panel or windows or desktop icons visible. When >> I do Alt+f1 I get the kmenu but once i select an application, only the >> wallpaper is displayed. >> >> When I login to gnome everything compiz+screenlets works well. > > With GNOME why do we assume he has Gnome? > rename the directory /home//.kde to something You could do that in a console. My bet is that restarting kdm will fix it. If not, make sure all user sessions are terminated - kill them from the console if necessary. I've had this happen when the kded process gets stuck. -- derek From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 2 18:34:33 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:34:33 +0100 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible In-Reply-To: <10977853.pzpexfGDbU@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> <10977853.pzpexfGDbU@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711021934.33440.kassube@gmx.net> Derek Broughton wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > Sundar wrote: > >> When I log into kde session, I am able to see only the desktop > >> wallpaper. There is no panel or windows or desktop icons visible. > >> When I do Alt+f1 I get the kmenu but once i select an application, > >> only the wallpaper is displayed. > >> > >> When I login to gnome everything compiz+screenlets works well. ^^^^^ > > > > With GNOME > > why do we assume he has Gnome? Because I did read the line you quoted above :) Nils From mdhirsch at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 19:35:02 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:35:02 -0600 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono In-Reply-To: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> References: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0711021235q742a66c7p161fb2ba0782e450@mail.gmail.com> On 11/1/07, Douglas Phillipson wrote: > I really want to expunge all the mono junk in Gutsy. What apps might I > find breaking if I do, besides that darn buggy dog, Beagle? I don't believe I have it installed, so maybe nothing. Easiest way to check is mark it for removal, then see what packages get uninstalled. Cancel the uninstallation if something important goes. Michael From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Fri Nov 2 19:43:18 2007 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:43:18 +0000 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0711021235q742a66c7p161fb2ba0782e450@mail.gmail.com> References: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> <9c2aabaf0711021235q742a66c7p161fb2ba0782e450@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071102194318.64d16497.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:35:02 -0600 "Michael Hirsch" wrote: MH> On 11/1/07, Douglas Phillipson wrote: MH> > I really want to expunge all the mono junk in Gutsy. What apps MH> > might I find breaking if I do, besides that darn buggy dog, MH> > Beagle? MH> MH> I don't believe I have it installed, so maybe nothing. Easiest way MH> to check is mark it for removal, then see what packages get MH> uninstalled. Cancel the uninstallation if something important goes. And remember that some packages that it's likely to remove are only "containers" that depend on various bundles (e.g. ubuntu-desktop being removed won't actually remove anything useful). James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Fri Nov 2 20:10:41 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:10:41 +0000 Subject: Removing Dolphin and Strigi Message-ID: <200711022010.41641.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> I've been using 7.10 for a while now and still don't like Dolphin and as I've already got Kerry Beagle running I don't see the point in having Strigi too, so would I break anything by removing both from my computer? From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 20:19:01 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:19:01 -0500 Subject: Removing Dolphin and Strigi In-Reply-To: <200711022010.41641.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200711022010.41641.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <720b310e0711021319j48dbd9e7kdefec2e6c76438bd@mail.gmail.com> On 11/2/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > I've been using 7.10 for a while now and still don't like Dolphin and as I've > already got Kerry Beagle running I don't see the point in having Strigi too, > so would I break anything by removing both from my computer? > > Don't know about Strigi but you can just apt-get remove --purge dolphin and it's gone. It doesn't cascade back so it's a clean removal. Greg From k7qo at commspeed.net Fri Nov 2 20:41:28 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:41:28 -0700 Subject: Adept Updater In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711021010m2efdf41bld65474c9fc747e15@mail.gmail.com> References: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> <720b310e0711021010m2efdf41bld65474c9fc747e15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194036088.26299.211.camel@kubuntu7.04> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:10 -0500, Greg Booth wrote: > On 11/2/07, adams wrote: > > The past two days, the adept updater red triangle has been > > showing up to note a software upgrade is available. > > > > The two modules involved are mencode and mplayer. > > > > Both are shown as upgradable (upgradeable? no word > > in any dictionary I own), but when I change to install > > the Requested status changes to BREAK(upgrade). > > > > Has any one else seen this behaviour? > > > > FYI > > > > Chuck > > Did you edit your sources.list files to re-enable the repo's they > disabled during upgrade ? > > Greg > I looked at sources.list and found nothing commented out but the backports. I did a sudo apt-get update and then tried the adept updater again and got the same error messages..... Probably something I'm doing wrong, but at this point I don't have a clue. Going back to square one and try a new system with a new install and see what it does.... Thanks, Chuck From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Nov 2 21:39:00 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:39:00 +0100 Subject: Removing Dolphin and Strigi In-Reply-To: <200711022010.41641.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200711022010.41641.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <472B98F4.6020104@gmx.net> Mark Fraser wrote: > I've been using 7.10 for a while now and still don't like Dolphin and as I've > already got Kerry Beagle running I don't see the point in having Strigi too, > so would I break anything by removing both from my computer? > > I've removed them myself as well. aptitude purge strigi aptitude purge dolphin All set and sorted now. Mike From mdhirsch at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 05:01:15 2007 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:01:15 -0600 Subject: Adept Updater In-Reply-To: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <9c2aabaf0711022201q6604f48dhb1d801de3b8c401b@mail.gmail.com> On 11/2/07, adams wrote: > The past two days, the adept updater red triangle has been > showing up to note a software upgrade is available. > > The two modules involved are mencode and mplayer. > > Both are shown as upgradable (upgradeable? no word > in any dictionary I own), but when I change to install > the Requested status changes to BREAK(upgrade). > > Has any one else seen this behaviour? This happens to me all the time. I think it is often caused by sloppy quality control on the part of the packagers. It may also be due to having installed something from a not so well supported repository. For instance, where did your mplayer and codecs come from? Did you get them from mediabuntu, or that auto install addon to Ubuntu that the Ubuntu folks tell you not to install? I use mediabuntu, and often there are updates from there that seem to require universe, or backports which I don't use if I can help it. But sometimes I have to activate them just to get the latest stuff. Michael From jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi Sat Nov 3 08:59:26 2007 From: jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi (Jarkko Palviainen) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:59:26 +0200 Subject: Adept Updater In-Reply-To: <1194036088.26299.211.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> <720b310e0711021010m2efdf41bld65474c9fc747e15@mail.gmail.com> <1194036088.26299.211.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:41:28 +0200, adams wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:10 -0500, Greg Booth wrote: >> On 11/2/07, adams wrote: >> > The past two days, the adept updater red triangle has been >> > showing up to note a software upgrade is available. >> > >> > The two modules involved are mencode and mplayer. >> > >> > Both are shown as upgradable (upgradeable? no word >> > in any dictionary I own), but when I change to install >> > the Requested status changes to BREAK(upgrade). I'd have suggested running: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade to see what actually conflicts (and sending it here). >> > >> > Has any one else seen this behaviour? >> > >> > FYI >> > >> > Chuck >> >> Did you edit your sources.list files to re-enable the repo's they >> disabled during upgrade ? Would update find any packages to upgrade if repositories were commented out in sources.list? >> >> Greg >> > > I looked at sources.list and found nothing commented out but the > backports. I did a > > sudo apt-get update > > and then tried the adept updater again and got the same error > messages..... > > Probably something I'm doing wrong, but at this point I don't > have a clue. Going back to square one and try a new system > with a new install and see what it does.... Solving those dependencies should not be overwhelming task or require a fresh install. Especially, when they are extra packages (like mplayer and mencode). You can always reinstall packages, if they are removed accidentially by a conflict. > > Thanks, > > Chuck From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sat Nov 3 09:37:16 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:37:16 +0100 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <4729F27F.2040504@rmk.co.il> References: <638787.46603.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200710291833.47009.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <4729F27F.2040504@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200711031037.16305.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:36, Nigel Ridley wrote: > This might help: > > I stuck dsl-n (Damn Small Linux - not) Live CD in the laptop, mounted > the USB drive, changed the 'group' ownership to 'users' (keeping the > 'user' as root), added myself to the group 'users' on my Kubuntu box > (logged out and back in again - for the group change to take effect) and > now I can write to the USB drive on both the laptop and the Kubuntu box > (and I suppose, any Linux box as all distros have the group 'users' as > standard - just need to be added to group 'users'). > > Blessings, > > Nigel Summary: Second user (the one that didn't plug the stick in) couldn't write to a USB stick, nor unmount it. Thanks Nigel. I tried that, *but without the dsl-n live CD* and I wasn't allowed to change the group ownership of the stick. sudo chgrp users /media/usbdisk ---> "Opération non permise" Actually I couldn't even change the group ownership of a single file on the stick, although the same syntax worked for a folder belonging in the 2nd user's home. Having read something in http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialManagingGroups.html , I also modified group in /etc/fstab, to no avail. Btw under Suse 9.3 the stick gets mounted with group users, and there not even a line for it in fstab. Why did you use dsl-n, it is hard for me to belive it is (or any live CD) an essential component of your manipulations. Did I miss something else? Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #82: Yeah, yo mama dresses you funny and you need a mouse to delete files From kassube at gmx.net Sat Nov 3 10:08:39 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:08:39 +0100 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200711031037.16305.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <638787.46603.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4729F27F.2040504@rmk.co.il> <200711031037.16305.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200711031108.39465.kassube@gmx.net> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Actually I couldn't even change the group ownership of a single file on > the stick The USB stick is using a VFAT filesystem which doesn't know anything about users and groups. Therefore you can't change ownerships of files on a USB stick. Nils From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 14:14:35 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 07:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200711031037.16305.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <463760.64001.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Second user (the one that didn't plug the stick in) couldn't write > to a USB > stick, nor unmount it. Did you try putting the second user in the same group as the first, the one owning the stick? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From gmane at auxbuss.com Sat Nov 3 14:32:40 2007 From: gmane at auxbuss.com (marc) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 14:32:40 -0000 Subject: Issues with upgrade to gutsy Message-ID: Hi, I have a number of issues after upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy. 1. Cannot drag and drop file from the desktop onto an editor. I can drag from a file manager, but not from the desktop. The cursor turns red when I try, and action won't be performed. 2. Editors launched from a file manager with root privileges no longer have root permissions. 3. If I have apps open with kdesudo privs, log out, then log back in, the kdesudo apps open with root privileges without being prompted for a password. In addition, a dialogue opens stating: Information - kdesudo No command arguments supplied: Usage... kdesudo will now exit... Requiring a click on an okay button to continue. 4. The kdm screen displays the kde wallpaper and dialogue - which are horrible. Attempts at retrieving my feisty settings do nothing; namely, overwriting: /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc and /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc I also noticed that the "upgraded" version of kdmrc is the very old version without comments - badger of before? 5. Print screen no longer works. Hitting the PrtSc button does nothing, 6. I lost all my kdemenu key bindings with the upgrade. 7. Some desktop icons occasionally go out of alignment. This can be tidied with a refresh desktop or nudging any icon, but it's a bit naff. 8. I clicked the "strigi" icon in kdemenu - no idea what it is, but I thought I'd investigate. However, all it seems to do is attempt to launch firefox, then present an alert saying: "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (strigi) isn't associated with any program." Can anyone assist with any of these, please? -- Cheers, Marc From manchicken at notsosoft.net Sat Nov 3 15:44:01 2007 From: manchicken at notsosoft.net (Michael D. Stemle, Jr.) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:44:01 -0500 Subject: Adept Updater In-Reply-To: <9c2aabaf0711022201q6604f48dhb1d801de3b8c401b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1194022910.26299.208.camel@kubuntu7.04> <9c2aabaf0711022201q6604f48dhb1d801de3b8c401b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194104641.6238.39.camel@thepea> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 23:01 -0600, Michael Hirsch wrote: > On 11/2/07, adams wrote: > > The past two days, the adept updater red triangle has been > > showing up to note a software upgrade is available. > > > > The two modules involved are mencode and mplayer. > > > > Both are shown as upgradable (upgradeable? no word > > in any dictionary I own), but when I change to install > > the Requested status changes to BREAK(upgrade). > > > > Has any one else seen this behaviour? > > This happens to me all the time. I think it is often caused by sloppy > quality control on the part of the packagers. It may also be due to > having installed something from a not so well supported repository. > > For instance, where did your mplayer and codecs come from? Did you > get them from mediabuntu, or that auto install addon to Ubuntu that > the Ubuntu folks tell you not to install? I use mediabuntu, and often > there are updates from there that seem to require universe, or > backports which I don't use if I can help it. But sometimes I have to > activate them just to get the latest stuff. > > Michael > Well, don't blame the packagers all the time. Sometimes they submit their packages and then the packages can take longer to build than others, or could get held up in approval, or they could be waiting on someone else to approve a package. I can't tell you how many times I've had this happen, just to have the necessary packages show up an hour or two later. If the upgrade can't happen due to dependencies then just wait, because the dependencies may just be caught up in the build process or in the approval process. No need to pass blame or start spreading bad feelings. From valtermura at yahoo.it Sat Nov 3 15:48:07 2007 From: valtermura at yahoo.it (Valter Mura) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:48:07 +0100 Subject: Issues with upgrade to gutsy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711031648.08079.valtermura@yahoo.it> Il Saturday 03 November 2007 15:32:40 marc ha scritto: > Hi, Hi to all, I'm quite new here and also new to Kubuntu Linux. > > I have a number of issues after upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy. > > 1. Cannot drag and drop file from the desktop onto an editor. I can drag > from a file manager, but not from the desktop. The cursor turns red > when I try, and action won't be performed. > > 2. Editors launched from a file manager with root privileges no longer > have root permissions. > > 3. If I have apps open with kdesudo privs, log out, then log back in, > the kdesudo apps open with root privileges without being prompted > for a password. > > In addition, a dialogue opens stating: > Information - kdesudo > No command arguments supplied: > Usage... > kdesudo will now exit... > Requiring a click on an okay button to continue. > > 4. The kdm screen displays the kde wallpaper and dialogue - which are > horrible. Attempts at retrieving my feisty settings do nothing; > namely, overwriting: > > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc and > /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc > > I also noticed that the "upgraded" version of kdmrc is the very old > version without comments - badger of before? > > 5. Print screen no longer works. Hitting the PrtSc button does nothing, > > 6. I lost all my kdemenu key bindings with the upgrade. > > 7. Some desktop icons occasionally go out of alignment. This can be > tidied with a refresh desktop or nudging any icon, but it's a bit > naff. Don't know, I have only two icons in my desktop. :-) > > 8. I clicked the "strigi" icon in kdemenu - no idea what it is, but I > thought I'd investigate. However, all it seems to do is attempt to > launch firefox, then present an alert saying: > > "Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the > protocol (strigi) isn't associated with any program." AFAIK, Strigi is a search program, I suppose similar to Google Search, in my system it works, but, even if I use Firefox as Browser web, I have Konqueror as default browser. When I click on Strigi, Konqueror opens and there are some options to be used with Strigi, first of all the indexing of the files. Sorry for my little help... Regards, -- Valter Gnupg key: 0x9A058949 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From mhenry35 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 15:55:11 2007 From: mhenry35 at yahoo.com (Matt Henry) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 08:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ubuntu Studio 7.10 - Installed KDE-DESKTOP Message-ID: <414727.38892.qm@web53002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Everyone, I've been an Ubuntu Studio user for a few months now, started with Feisty and upgraded to Gutsy and working ok, but recently heard about the KDE desktop and thought it sounded like something I should try. So, Today I checked out the wiki on installing kde desktop, and I did an install of KDE-DESKTOP using synaptic package manager, and the system is working fine, but for some reason, I'm still using Gnome. I get the Kubuntu logon screens, splash screen, etc, but my desktop is definitely Gnome. Is there an additional configuration step or two in order to get me switched over? Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 16:04:48 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 18:04:48 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu Studio 7.10 - Installed KDE-DESKTOP In-Reply-To: <414727.38892.qm@web53002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <414727.38892.qm@web53002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200711031804.48339.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Boy, overall, reading the various posts, Gutsy KDE sounds really broken. I wonder if this is an upgrade thing only? /d From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 16:16:20 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:16:20 -0400 Subject: Ubuntu Studio 7.10 - Installed KDE-DESKTOP In-Reply-To: <200711031804.48339.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <414727.38892.qm@web53002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200711031804.48339.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711030916n7b4f8388t47062760f6790919@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 3, 2007 12:04 PM, Donn wrote: > Boy, overall, reading the various posts, Gutsy KDE sounds really broken. I > wonder if this is an upgrade thing only? > > > /d Yeah, it does sound really broken, but you need to remember that this is a mailing list where people ask about their *problems*. Keep that in mind and remember all the people *not* having problems with KDE. That said, I am also experiencing problems with KDE ;). As for the OP, there should be an option on the KDE logon screen to choose which desktop to run. I am not sure if it is still there because the logon screen has changed with Gutsy. If it isn't, try googling "kdm default desktop gutsy" or something similar. HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From mhenry35 at yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 16:51:05 2007 From: mhenry35 at yahoo.com (Matt Henry) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ubuntu Studio 7.10 - Installed KDE-DESKTOP In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711030916n7b4f8388t47062760f6790919@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <468115.16732.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Okay, I got an answer on the forum that worked. The default session is automatically the last session you logged in under, which was Gnome for me. On the logon screen, I just selected KDE and now I'm up under KDE. Now I can explore and see how things work. Thanks and have a great weekend! Andrew Jarrett wrote: On Nov 3, 2007 12:04 PM, Donn wrote: > Boy, overall, reading the various posts, Gutsy KDE sounds really broken. I > wonder if this is an upgrade thing only? > > > /d Yeah, it does sound really broken, but you need to remember that this is a mailing list where people ask about their *problems*. Keep that in mind and remember all the people *not* having problems with KDE. That said, I am also experiencing problems with KDE ;). As for the OP, there should be an option on the KDE logon screen to choose which desktop to run. I am not sure if it is still there because the logon screen has changed with Gutsy. If it isn't, try googling "kdm default desktop gutsy" or something similar. HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sat Nov 3 18:10:40 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:10:40 +0100 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <463760.64001.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <463760.64001.qm@web39614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200711031910.40921.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Saturday 03 November 2007 15:14, Earl Violet wrote: > --- Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > Second user (the one that didn't plug the stick in) couldn't write > > to a USB > > stick, nor unmount it. > > Did you try putting the second user in the same group as the first, > the one owning the stick? > > Earl Hi Earl, First user is the one who plugs in the stick, it may be the one with high privileges or the "guest". The guests may login to the guest account (named "semua" ) without a password so I dont want them to belong to the group "perry". I will try to make myself also member of the group "semua" and see what happens but remember we already both belong to "users". ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Saturday 03 November 2007 11:08, Nils Kassube wrote: > The USB stick is using a VFAT filesystem which doesn't know anything about > users and groups. Therefore you can't change ownerships of files on a USB > stick. Hi Nils, Thanks for info, it will save me time to experiment on M$ and search how I can access those non existing bits. On Linux this ownership stuff may not reside on the USB stick but on the computer and the way it mounts the stick, therefore the subject :"need to unplug USB drive" If the stick is plugged in when the machine reboots, the owner is root and nobody has acces to it! Thanks for answers Perry -- BOFH excuse #205: Quantum dynamics are affecting the transistors From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 19:09:39 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200711031910.40921.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <751293.61488.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Saturday 03 November 2007 15:14, Earl Violet wrote: > > --- Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > > Second user (the one that didn't plug the stick in) couldn't > write > > > to a USB > > > stick, nor unmount it. > > > > Did you try putting the second user in the same group as the > first, > > the one owning the stick? > > > > Earl > Hi Earl, > First user is the one who plugs in the stick, it may be the one > with high > privileges or the "guest". > The guests may login to the guest account (named "semua" ) without > a password > so I dont want them to belong to the group "perry". I will try to > make myself > also member of the group "semua" and see what happens but remember > we already > both belong to "users". > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Saturday 03 November 2007 11:08, Nils Kassube wrote: > > The USB stick is using a VFAT filesystem which doesn't know > anything about > > users and groups. Therefore you can't change ownerships of files > on a USB > > stick. > Hi Nils, > Thanks for info, it will save me time to experiment on M$ and > search how I can > access those non existing bits. > On Linux this ownership stuff may not reside on the USB stick but > on the > computer and the way it mounts the stick, therefore the subject > :"need to > unplug USB drive" > If the stick is plugged in when the machine reboots, the owner is > root and > nobody has acces to it! What group does the USB drive mount under? Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Nov 3 19:11:22 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:11:22 +0200 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200711031037.16305.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <638787.46603.qm@web39613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200710291833.47009.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <4729F27F.2040504@rmk.co.il> <200711031037.16305.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <472CC7DA.8080409@rmk.co.il> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:36, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> This might help: >> >> I stuck dsl-n (Damn Small Linux - not) Live CD in the laptop, mounted >> the USB drive, changed the 'group' ownership to 'users' (keeping the >> 'user' as root), added myself to the group 'users' on my Kubuntu box >> (logged out and back in again - for the group change to take effect) and >> now I can write to the USB drive on both the laptop and the Kubuntu box >> (and I suppose, any Linux box as all distros have the group 'users' as >> standard - just need to be added to group 'users'). >> >> Blessings, >> >> Nigel > > Summary: > Second user (the one that didn't plug the stick in) couldn't write to a USB > stick, nor unmount it. > > Thanks Nigel. > > I tried that, *but without the dsl-n live CD* and I wasn't allowed to change > the group ownership of the stick. > sudo chgrp users /media/usbdisk ---> "Opération non permise" > Actually I couldn't even change the group ownership of a single file on the > stick, although the same syntax worked for a folder belonging in the 2nd > user's home. > > Having read something in > http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialManagingGroups.html , > I also modified group in /etc/fstab, to no avail. > Btw under Suse 9.3 the stick gets mounted with group users, and there not even > a line for it in fstab. > > Why did you use dsl-n, it is hard for me to belive it is (or any live CD) an > essential component of your manipulations. > Did I miss something else? > > Greetings Perry > > > > I used the dsl-n live Cd because I couldn't get Kubuntu to change permissions - I think it has something to do with the automagical mount thingy. The live Cd's use a manual mounting system (I couldn't even format and create partitions using qtparted on Kubuntu because the device must be unmounted - but when it is unmounted there is no record of it either in fstab nor mtab!). I reformatted my USB stick into 3 partitions - a linux swap (for use with dsl-n); a [large] ext2 partition and a fat16 partition. On Kubuntu the fat16 partition was mounted as user 'nigel' and group 'root' - so no problems writing to it. The problem was gaining write permission to the ext2 partition - which is why I needed to change group ownership to 'users' and add myself the the group 'users' on the Kubuntu box. In summary - there is something wrong with the way Kubuntu assigns permissions to native linux filesystem USB devices using this newfangled automagic mounting system. Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From whitover-1 at btconnect.com Sat Nov 3 19:16:32 2007 From: whitover-1 at btconnect.com (John Hansen) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:16:32 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 Message-ID: <472CC910.8020800@btconnect.com> I upgraded from Kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 a couple of days ago using Adept. All seemed well except I could not connect to my 3Com ADSL router. I got the message: "disconnected". It worked without trouble with 7.04. After some time I gave up and reverted to Kubuntu 7.04 which works as before. I shall wait a while before trying again to upgrade to 7.10. Anyone had the same problem and if so how did you overcome the snag? John From nigel at rmk.co.il Sat Nov 3 19:16:24 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:16:24 +0200 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <751293.61488.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <751293.61488.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <472CC908.2090206@rmk.co.il> Earl Violet wrote: > --- Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > >> On Saturday 03 November 2007 15:14, Earl Violet wrote: >>> --- Sylviane et Perry White wrote: >>>> Second user (the one that didn't plug the stick in) couldn't >> write >>>> to a USB >>>> stick, nor unmount it. >>> Did you try putting the second user in the same group as the >> first, >>> the one owning the stick? >>> >>> Earl >> Hi Earl, >> First user is the one who plugs in the stick, it may be the one >> with high >> privileges or the "guest". >> The guests may login to the guest account (named "semua" ) without >> a password >> so I dont want them to belong to the group "perry". I will try to >> make myself >> also member of the group "semua" and see what happens but remember >> we already >> both belong to "users". >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> On Saturday 03 November 2007 11:08, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> The USB stick is using a VFAT filesystem which doesn't know >> anything about >>> users and groups. Therefore you can't change ownerships of files >> on a USB >>> stick. >> Hi Nils, >> Thanks for info, it will save me time to experiment on M$ and >> search how I can >> access those non existing bits. >> On Linux this ownership stuff may not reside on the USB stick but >> on the >> computer and the way it mounts the stick, therefore the subject >> :"need to >> unplug USB drive" >> If the stick is plugged in when the machine reboots, the owner is >> root and >> nobody has acces to it! > > What group does the USB drive mount under? > > Earl > > URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net > Instant messenger: earlcoyote > ICQ:64033496 > My [USB stick] ext2 partition used to mount on Kubuntu as root root - until I managed to change the group ownership to 'users' using a live CD. Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Nov 3 19:19:00 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:19:00 +0000 Subject: Removing Dolphin and Strigi In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711021319j48dbd9e7kdefec2e6c76438bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711022010.41641.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <720b310e0711021319j48dbd9e7kdefec2e6c76438bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711031919.00979.kubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Friday 02 November 2007 20:19:01 Greg Booth wrote: > On 11/2/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > > I've been using 7.10 for a while now and still don't like Dolphin and as > > I've already got Kerry Beagle running I don't see the point in having > > Strigi too, so would I break anything by removing both from my computer? > > Don't know about Strigi but you can just apt-get remove --purge > dolphin and it's gone. It doesn't cascade back so it's a clean > removal. > > Greg Thanks, I've now managed to get rid of both Dolphin and Strigi, so far no problems. From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sat Nov 3 20:11:41 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:11:41 -0400 Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <47254260.5030406@sbcglobal.net> References: <200710241611.56120.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> <47204CA8.4000201@gmail.com> <47208FF0.3040800@sbcglobal.net> <1193337797.5729.34.camel@ikkyu2> <472113C0.2030509@sbcglobal.net> <9bed467e0710281759q4c8db2feifde4024255ba184a@mail.gmail.com> <47254260.5030406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711031311i488cc795v9f6d173c5b257629@mail.gmail.com> On Oct 28, 2007 10:16 PM, Steven wrote: > Andrew, > > I am using FireWire 400 too, but I don't currently have Windows on my > computer. I am a newbie. Can you help me manually install my 1TB > Maxtor 800 400 2usb without Window installed? Thanks! Sorry for the slow response, I've had a busy week. I have looked into this mounting problem and have seemed to come up with a decent solution. All it takes is some tinkering in System Settings. 1. Open "System Settings". K->System Settings 2. Go to the "Advanced" tab. 3. Click on "Disk & Filesystems". 4. Click on the "Administrator Mode" button and type in your password. 5. Locate the partition for your disk (it's the only partition under "Disk My Book" for me). 6. Right click on that partition and choose "Modify". 7. Make sure the type is "Automatic" and specify a mount point (optional?) for the device (I created the folder /media/My_Book for the mount point). 8. I have mine to mount by UUID, but it really shouldn't matter what you choose here. 9. Make sure "Enable at start up" and "Writeable" are checked (*IMPORTANT*). 10. I'm not sure if this makes a difference, but I changed mount permission to "Device Owner may enable/disable". 11. Reboot. There is a drawback to this, however. I can't seem to "Safely Remove" the drive. It gives me this message: ------------------ Unfortunately, the device system:/media/sdb1 (/dev/sdb1) named 'My Book' and currently mounted at /media/My_Book could not be unmounted. Unmounting failed due to the following error: Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab ----------------- I have looked at what is in /media and there isn't even a file called .hal-mtab. There is, however, a file called .hal-mtab-lock. Any ideas? Anyway, this should help those of you that can't get your external devices to mount properly (giving a permission error). The important steps are to enable on start up and then reboot. The devices may not show up on the desktop, but are available under "Storage Media". HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 3 21:43:41 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:43:41 -0400 Subject: Adept problems Message-ID: <472CEB8D.6010204@sbcglobal.net> Kubuntu 7.10 Error message; "another process is using the packaging system data base. probly another adept application or apt-get" There are no other applications running, I even shutoff the computer and restarted it and only tried to start "adept" again and I get this error message. From jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi Sat Nov 3 22:15:56 2007 From: jarkko.palviainen at lut.fi (Jarkko Palviainen) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:15:56 +0200 Subject: Adept problems In-Reply-To: <472CEB8D.6010204@sbcglobal.net> References: <472CEB8D.6010204@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:43:41 +0200, Jim wrote: > Kubuntu 7.10 Error message; > > "another process is using the packaging system data base. probly another > adept application or apt-get" > > There are no other applications running, I even shutoff the computer and > restarted it and only > tried to start "adept" again and I get this error message. > Try to look if there are adept processes running, e.g. ps -A |grep adept and stop them. There might also be other apt-related processes, I'm not sure. I had a bit similar situation when my Gutsy dist-upgrade died on me with adept (a couple of seg faults and halt in the middle of package installation phase). I did the following thing in a console to prevent the automatic locking of apt: fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock; dpkg --configure -a I was able to fix the mess adept left behind and upgrade gracefully. You might want to try something similar. I never found out which process was automatically starting dpkg to lock the apt, but killing the locking process with "fuser -vki" and running the next command on the same line (note the semicolon) solved my locking problem. -- Jarkko From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 3 22:23:26 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:23:26 -0400 Subject: Reading NTFS Message-ID: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> How do you read a NTFS on Kubuntu-7.10 , I installed ntfs-config, it won't run, of course the box I installed ntfs-config on doesn't have a NTFS partition on it. if that makes a difference in executing ntfs-config. The drive that NTFS is on is /dev/hdb1 on a friends computer , we want to read and copy files from it, It is a crashed XP system . From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 3 23:11:44 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: External USB NTFS drive In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711031311i488cc795v9f6d173c5b257629@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <545195.12382.qm@web81804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Andrew, I just reinstalled because some problems were taking too much effort fixing. When I reinstalled, I installed Feisty instead of Gutsy, because it was stable for be. I then went to a site where it says 13 things you should do first after installing Feisty. I took their advice. It seemed like a great thing. All dependencies and plugins that could be a help were rapidly installed. Nonetheless, the person who made this happen apparently doesn't like KDE, because that came standard with Feisty. I was familiar with it and liked it. He included Gnome without any mention. When I rebooted I now had Gnome. It was important for me to do some work and not spend time figuring out a new application, so I attempted to remove Gnome. When I did this, Synaptic, Adept, and apt-get all had a heart-attack. None would allow me to add or remove anything and were locked up. The warning suggested other programs were running, however, I did not have any other programs running unless something was running in the background that I was unaware of. I still hadn't installed email, and just remembered now that my account is with att.yahoo, so I am using their service over the net. I am very happy that you answered, but am not able to use your recommendations at the moment. I may have to reinstall to solve this problem. For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would put such a beneficial offering together and change from KDE to Gnome without mentioning it. That takes work, and isn't suitable for everyone. It is hard to complain, though, at these prices; still it will take a few hours of precious time to fix. If you don't mind, I am saving your address. I would like to resolve this new set of problems, before resolving my hard drive issue. I might like to write you, if I continue to have problems. You wouldn't believe it, but my problems started with overloading my Linux system with data. I thought I had about 6gb of space remaining when I apparently completely filled the partition to CRASH full. I couldn't resolve the problem, but was able to save the data. I bought a Maxtor One Touch III One TB external Hard Drive to solve the problem. The new hard drive wouldn't install on Feisty, and Maxtor said I had to have Mac or XP or Vista to install. In trying to use a friends XP CD to make the installation I had problems that caused me to lose about 200GB of data that partially transferred to the new hard drives. I only saved about 65GB of my data. The Gutsy install had problems next. So, I decided to format the corrupted new program and proved why I will never be a geek or guru, because I formatted the wrong drive. I still have the 65GB's, but after reinstalling Feisty which I am confident is stable, I took the shortcut of 13 easy ways, got caught in another bad situation, because Gnome was installed without my knowledge and uninstallation locked all my access to Package removal or install. I am sitting her trying to answer too many emails that have backed up and haven't had time to reinstall again. Boy, I wish that guy had mentioned what he was doing, I wouldn't have taken the short-cut--- the long way around. I have never had so much bad luck trying to do the right thing in my life. I wonder if I am not supposed to back up my data. It worked OK for 15 years. It wasn't until I tried to be smart that I screwed up to my limit. I thought this might make your problems a little easier to take. Well, onward and upward, downward has been exhausted. Cordially, Steven Andrew Jarrett wrote: On Oct 28, 2007 10:16 PM, Steven wrote: > Andrew, > > I am using FireWire 400 too, but I don't currently have Windows on my > computer. I am a newbie. Can you help me manually install my 1TB > Maxtor 800 400 2usb without Window installed? Thanks! Sorry for the slow response, I've had a busy week. I have looked into this mounting problem and have seemed to come up with a decent solution. All it takes is some tinkering in System Settings. 1. Open "System Settings". K->System Settings 2. Go to the "Advanced" tab. 3. Click on "Disk & Filesystems". 4. Click on the "Administrator Mode" button and type in your password. 5. Locate the partition for your disk (it's the only partition under "Disk My Book" for me). 6. Right click on that partition and choose "Modify". 7. Make sure the type is "Automatic" and specify a mount point (optional?) for the device (I created the folder /media/My_Book for the mount point). 8. I have mine to mount by UUID, but it really shouldn't matter what you choose here. 9. Make sure "Enable at start up" and "Writeable" are checked (*IMPORTANT*). 10. I'm not sure if this makes a difference, but I changed mount permission to "Device Owner may enable/disable". 11. Reboot. There is a drawback to this, however. I can't seem to "Safely Remove" the drive. It gives me this message: ------------------ Unfortunately, the device system:/media/sdb1 (/dev/sdb1) named 'My Book' and currently mounted at /media/My_Book could not be unmounted. Unmounting failed due to the following error: Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab ----------------- I have looked at what is in /media and there isn't even a file called .hal-mtab. There is, however, a file called .hal-mtab-lock. Any ideas? Anyway, this should help those of you that can't get your external devices to mount properly (giving a permission error). The important steps are to enable on start up and then reboot. The devices may not show up on the desktop, but are available under "Storage Media". HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 09:56:15 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:56:15 +0100 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono In-Reply-To: <200711012306.13912.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> <200711012306.13912.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711041056.15726.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Thursday 01 November 2007 22:06:13 Donn wrote: > The very cool Tomboy note app. Which I wish, oh wish, was just written in > plain old gtk, but there you go. Do you have tomboy installed in kde? I like tomboy. It works nicely in Ubuntu and, as I've seen your post, I tried to install it in Kubuntu: there were a few errors reported and I had to modify kmenu and take --search out to make it appear on the desktop. Until now, and i still do, I was using BasKet. And that's another nice kde application. Have you tried it? -- lanzen From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 10:22:27 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:22:27 +0200 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono In-Reply-To: <200711041056.15726.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> <200711012306.13912.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711041056.15726.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711041222.27190.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Do you have tomboy installed in kde? Oh yes. It's indispensable. I just bemoan the whole mono thing. No problems running it in KDE so far. > Until now, and i still do, I was using BasKet. And that's another nice kde > application. Have you tried it? I tried basket, but found it less "immediate" than tomboy. \d From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sun Nov 4 10:41:18 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:41:18 +0100 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <751293.61488.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <751293.61488.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200711041141.18804.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Saturday 03 November 2007 20:09, Earl Violet wrote: > What group does the USB drive mount under? Under Kubuntu it is either perry-perry 755 or semua-tous 755 I was unable to change ownership or permissions. Under Suse 9.3 it is more confusing: Through the "Home" Konqueror icon (local folders for ubuntu) media:/ Konqueror media./ 1.0G Removable Media root-root 777 Through the "My Computer" Konqueror icon (storage media for ubuntu) {or something similar...I'm translating from French} media- Konqueror /media usbdisk whiper-users 755 I had no problems under Suse but I am the only user there. I could try to create a 2nd user and I bet he could write provided he belonged to users. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Saturday 03 November 2007 20:11, Nigel Ridley wrote: > I used the dsl-n live Cd because I couldn't get Kubuntu to change > permissions - I think it has something to do with the automagical mount > thingy. The live Cd's use a manual mounting system (I couldn't even > format and create partitions using qtparted on Kubuntu because the > device must be unmounted - but when it is unmounted there is no record > of it either in fstab nor mtab!). > > I reformatted my USB stick into 3 partitions - a linux swap (for use > with dsl-n); a [large] ext2 partition and a fat16 partition. > On Kubuntu the fat16 partition was mounted as user 'nigel' and group > 'root' - so no problems writing to it. > The problem was gaining write permission to the ext2 partition - which > is why I needed to change group ownership to 'users' and add myself the > the group 'users' on the Kubuntu box. > > In summary - there is something wrong with the way Kubuntu assigns > permissions to native linux filesystem USB devices using this newfangled > automagic mounting system. > > Blessings, > > Nigel Very Interessting, thanks. I didn't find out how to verify that my stick was VFAT but you are probably right, M$ can read it too and that is what I need. BTW I found an interresting article about formatting sticks "http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2006/09/formatting-your-usb-stick-in-linux.html" My problem will probably be solved only when we find the proper settings in Kubuntu or when they provide a patch for this "something wrong with the way Kubuntu assigns permissions...". I am afraid reformatting (still as VFAT) will not let me write ownership or permissions on the drive. I also belive that the dsl-n trick only worked for you because you applied it to an ext2 partition. Do you think I should file in a bug report? Does that still occur with Gusty? I'm under Feisty. Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #127: Sticky bits on disk From technowizard at gmx.net Sun Nov 4 10:53:04 2007 From: technowizard at gmx.net (Jan Michelsburg) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:53:04 +0100 Subject: Speedproblems since update 7.04 -> 7.10 Message-ID: <200711041153.04977.technowizard@gmx.net> Hi, a friend of mine has to problem that his old Toshiba Tecra 8100 (600Mhz Pentium III (Coppermine), 256MB RAM, savage IX/MX) became unbearable slow since he updateted his Kubuntu. Now for example it takes almost 30 minutes for him to fetch his mail. Has someone experienced the same problems and found a solution? Jan From lanzenesi at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 11:07:01 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 12:07:01 +0100 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono In-Reply-To: <200711041222.27190.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> <200711041056.15726.lanzenesi@gmail.com> <200711041222.27190.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711041207.01566.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Sunday 04 November 2007 11:22:27 Donn wrote: > > Do you have tomboy installed in kde? > > Oh yes. It's indispensable. I just bemoan the whole mono thing. > No problems running it in KDE so far. But can you run it from menu or command line like so: tomboy --search I also like the easy sync in tomboy. > I tried basket, but found it less "immediate" than tomboy. Yep, it took me some time to get used to it. ;-) -- lanzen From jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org Sun Nov 4 11:14:51 2007 From: jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:14:51 +0100 Subject: Speedproblems since update 7.04 -> 7.10 References: <200711041153.04977.technowizard@gmx.net> Message-ID: Jan Michelsburg wrote: > a friend of mine has to problem that his old Toshiba Tecra 8100 (600Mhz > Pentium III (Coppermine), 256MB RAM, savage IX/MX) became unbearable slow > since he updateted his Kubuntu. Now for example it takes almost 30 minutes > for him to fetch his mail. Has someone experienced the same problems and > found a solution? If a slow gui is the problem, uninstalling xgl will help. It ate almost 90% of my cpu. Jan From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 11:38:04 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:38:04 +0200 Subject: How much will break if I expunge mono In-Reply-To: <200711041207.01566.lanzenesi@gmail.com> References: <472A3000.1030109@oem.doe.gov> <200711041222.27190.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711041207.01566.lanzenesi@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711041338.04783.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > But can you run it from menu or command line like so: > tomboy --search Yes, kind of. It appears in the tray and I must click it from there. So, no, the search window does not appear. But I only use it from the tray anyway. > I also like the easy sync in tomboy. Not sure I've seen this feature. I'm still on Dapper, so maybe mine is an old one. \d From tom60ish at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 12:12:04 2007 From: tom60ish at gmail.com (T. Lombardy) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:12:04 -0500 Subject: _: Entries in K-Menu: preceding entries in K Menu Message-ID: After upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 I now have _: Entries in K-Menu preceding the majority of my apps. (FYI) I updated when Adept notified me there was a new version. When Strigi updated this morning, a new entry on K-menu was preceded by this. It is more of an annoyance than anything. Doesn't affect my system. Just would like to know how to get rid of it. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bach.michael at gmx.net Sun Nov 4 12:34:29 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:34:29 +0100 Subject: Speedproblems since update 7.04 -> 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711041153.04977.technowizard@gmx.net> References: <200711041153.04977.technowizard@gmx.net> Message-ID: <472DBC55.6050007@gmx.net> Jan Michelsburg wrote: > Hi, > > a friend of mine has to problem that his old Toshiba Tecra 8100 (600Mhz > Pentium III (Coppermine), 256MB RAM, savage IX/MX) became unbearable slow > since he updateted his Kubuntu. Now for example it takes almost 30 minutes > for him to fetch his mail. Has someone experienced the same problems and > found a solution? > > Jan > One possibility is, there might be a process that consumes most of the processing power. In a terminal, run the command "top" (a program to display taks in an ordered manner). On the first screen you get, press "P" [shift-key + p-key], this will sort the tasks according to cpu usage, the most cpu consuming task gets listed in the top row. There should be, under normal desktop usage, NO such task consistently running at 80 to 90 percent cpu power. Excessive numerical calculation tools (Matlab, scilab) however could create such taks. Mike From slewin at bmts.com Sun Nov 4 13:07:12 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:07:12 -0500 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> Jim wrote: > How do you read a NTFS on Kubuntu-7.10 , I installed ntfs-config, it > won't run, of course > the box I installed ntfs-config on doesn't have a NTFS partition on it. > if that makes a difference in executing ntfs-config. > The drive that NTFS is on is /dev/hdb1 on a friends computer , we want > to read and copy files from it, It is a crashed XP system . How are you trying to read files from your friends computer? Have you taken the hard drive out of your friends computer and put it in your computer? If you have done that you will probably need to mount the NTFS drive. Kubuntu always had the ability to read NTFS drives, even out of the box. You can find instructions here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/mountNTFSreadonly?highlight=%28ntfs%29 -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From technowizard at gmx.net Sun Nov 4 14:03:11 2007 From: technowizard at gmx.net (Jan Michelsburg) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:03:11 +0100 Subject: Speedproblems since update 7.04 -> 7.10 In-Reply-To: References: <200711041153.04977.technowizard@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711041503.11947.technowizard@gmx.net> Am Sonntag 04 November 2007 12:14:51 schrieb Jan Torben Heuer: > Jan Michelsburg wrote: > > a friend of mine has to problem that his old Toshiba Tecra 8100 (600Mhz > > Pentium III (Coppermine), 256MB RAM, savage IX/MX) became unbearable slow > > since he updateted his Kubuntu. Now for example it takes almost 30 > > minutes for him to fetch his mail. Has someone experienced the same > > problems and found a solution? > > If a slow gui is the problem, uninstalling xgl will help. It ate almost 90% > of my cpu. > > Jan The problem is that glx is not installed. Jan From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 4 15:07:04 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:07:04 -0500 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> Message-ID: <472DE018.4010902@sbcglobal.net> Scott wrote: > Jim wrote: > >> How do you read a NTFS on Kubuntu-7.10 , I installed ntfs-config, it >> won't run, of course >> the box I installed ntfs-config on doesn't have a NTFS partition on it. >> if that makes a difference in executing ntfs-config. >> The drive that NTFS is on is /dev/hdb1 on a friends computer , we want >> to read and copy files from it, It is a crashed XP system . >> > How are you trying to read files from your friends computer? Have you > taken the hard drive out of your friends computer and put it in your > computer? If you have done that you will probably need to mount the > NTFS drive. Kubuntu always had the ability to read NTFS drives, even > out of the box. > > You can find instructions here: > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/mountNTFSreadonly?highlight=%28ntfs%29 > > I'm using the mount command on his computer, installed kubuntu-7.10 on it. His XP system crashed, I put the drive in hdb behind Kubuntu to see if I could read it No matter what mount command I give it, it has problems with reading NTFS part. I installed ntfs3g-config but it won't show files in /media/hdb1 From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sun Nov 4 17:06:55 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 18:06:55 +0100 Subject: need to unplug USB drive In-Reply-To: <200711041141.18804.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <751293.61488.qm@web39609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200711041141.18804.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200711041806.56020.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Sunday 04 November 2007 11:41, Sylviane et Perry White wrote: (snip) > My problem will probably be solved only when we find the proper settings in > Kubuntu or when they provide a patch for this "something wrong with the way > Kubuntu assigns permissions...". (snip) > > Do you think I should file in a bug report? > Does that still occur with Gusty? I'm under Feisty. Further googling led me to belive it is neither a Kde nor an ubuntu bug, but a linux feature :-(( Perry -- BOFH excuse #320: You've been infected by the Telescoping Hubble virus From dreadgeek at gmail.com Fri Nov 2 12:33:00 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 05:33:00 -0700 Subject: Debian package files open in Kate In-Reply-To: <2292182.WUIrxDeqW0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200710311832.15591.dreadgeek@gmail.com> <472952AA.4090705@fastmail.fm> <2292182.WUIrxDeqW0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711020533.05346.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Karl: I'm using Gutsy. Cheers Aj On Thursday 01 November 2007 06:43:18 Derek Broughton wrote: > Karl wrote: > > Adrienne J Davis wrote: > >> Hey folks: > >> > >> When I attempt to download a .deb file, it ends up opening in Kate. This > >> isn't, of course, what I want it to do. In trying to fix this, I ended > >> up deleting my x-deb definition in Konqueror out of frustration, > >> thinking that it would default to 'ask to save' but that didn't work. > >> So, if one of you would be so kind as to look in Konqueror and tell me > >> what the definition for .deb is supposed to be so that it behaves right, > >> I would be grateful. Thanks. > > > > In my Konqueror it's /usr/share/applications/kde/gdebi-kde.desktop > > What version are you running, Adrienne? I'm pretty sure I didn't have this > in Feisty, but I do in Gutsy (it certainly treats them as text files on the > Feisty machine that's been upgrading Ubuntu versions for years, but I'm not > sure about the one where I installed Feisty fresh and now has Gutsy). > -- > derek -- Aj Davis -- Dreadlocked science geek http://dreadgeek.blogspot.com "All tribal myths are true. For a given value of true." 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Has someone experienced the same problems and > > found a solution? > > Jan > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > - Ron Wilson From bbales at cox.net Sun Nov 4 18:40:27 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:40:27 -0500 Subject: No public key In-Reply-To: <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711041240.27848.bbales@cox.net> I added a mirror to my sources.list and tried to run apt-get update, but it errored out with the message below GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1 How do I get the public key and where should I put it? bruce From cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu Sun Nov 4 18:49:36 2007 From: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu (Christophe Guilbert) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:49:36 -0800 Subject: how to upgrade to openoffice 2.3 using Adept on kubuntu 6.06 Message-ID: <472E1440.8020801@picasso.ucsf.edu> Hi guys, I'd like to upgrade my openoffice to version 2.3 on a kubuntu 6.06 using adept. Is it possible ?, Did anyone has problems ? will openoffice still work with Bibus. I don't know why openoffice 2.3 in not in the repository. it would be nice to have it there. Thanks for any info. Chris -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christophe Guilbert, Ph.D. Mission Bay Genentech Hall UCSF, Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry 600 16th Street, Suite # S-126-D Genentech Hall, MC 2280 San Francisco, CA 94158-2517 Office : 415-476-0707 Office fax : 415-476-0688 Email: cguilbert at picasso.ucsf.edu http://mondale.ucsf.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Sun Microsystems From plasticman3327 at gmail.com Sun Nov 4 22:10:37 2007 From: plasticman3327 at gmail.com (Martin Walshe) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 22:10:37 +0000 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <472DE018.4010902@sbcglobal.net> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> <472DE018.4010902@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Can you see the actual drive icon in dolphin? If you can what kind of error do you get when you try to read the drive? On 11/4/07, Jim wrote: > > Scott wrote: > > Jim wrote: > > > >> How do you read a NTFS on Kubuntu-7.10 , I installed ntfs-config, it > >> won't run, of course > >> the box I installed ntfs-config on doesn't have a NTFS partition on it. > >> if that makes a difference in executing ntfs-config. > >> The drive that NTFS is on is /dev/hdb1 on a friends computer , we want > >> to read and copy files from it, It is a crashed XP system . > >> > > How are you trying to read files from your friends computer? Have you > > taken the hard drive out of your friends computer and put it in your > > computer? If you have done that you will probably need to mount the > > NTFS drive. Kubuntu always had the ability to read NTFS drives, even > > out of the box. > > > > You can find instructions here: > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/mountNTFSreadonly?highlight=%28ntfs%29 > > > > > I'm using the mount command on his computer, installed kubuntu-7.10 on it. > His XP system crashed, I put the drive in hdb behind Kubuntu to see if I > could read it > No matter what mount command I give it, it has problems with reading > NTFS part. > I installed ntfs3g-config but it won't show files in /media/hdb1 > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slewin at bmts.com Mon Nov 5 02:15:16 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:15:16 -0500 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> <472DE018.4010902@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <472E7CB4.3010402@bmts.com> Martin Walshe wrote: > I'm using the mount command on his computer, installed kubuntu-7.10 > on it. > His XP system crashed, I put the drive in hdb behind Kubuntu to see if I > could read it > No matter what mount command I give it, it has problems with reading > NTFS part. > I installed ntfs3g-config but it won't show files in /media/hdb1 It may be possible that the NTFS partition is severely corrupted and can not be read from. That could be the reason why your friends computer crashed. I have never had any problems reading from a NTFS partition. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From sundar261 at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 05:01:57 2007 From: sundar261 at gmail.com (Sundar) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 00:01:57 -0500 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible In-Reply-To: <200711021843.00803.kassube@gmx.net> References: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> <1194024023.7000.5.camel@appu> <200711021843.00803.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1194238917.6545.5.camel@appu> > I don't know of a log for changes in KDE settings. I would try to remember > which setting I had changed just before the trouble started and avoid to > do that again. And it might be a good idea to backup the .kde directory > before you change any settings. > > But there is another option. You could compare the config files in the old > and new directory. However, that is rather time consuming and maybe you > don't find the faulty setting because you just don't know what all those > things mean. I wouldn't know it anyway, and therefore I wouldn't take the > time for a comparison. I had thought of going over the old files in the backed up .kde folder. But decided to see if the problems comes back if I redo the compiz + screenlets. It has been running ok for the last 2 days. But KDE environment seems very unstable compared to 6.06/7.04. -Sundar From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 5 09:17:39 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:17:39 +0000 Subject: Problems With Sound Message-ID: <20071105091739.1d96de9b@graham-desktop> I am running Gutsy and I have a problem with obtaining any sound. When the current box I am using was a WinXP machine I stopped getting sound through the headphones. Looking inside I think there is a loose connection. My wife had good things to say about the Creative Labs Soundblaster MP3+ (Model S80270), so I thought I'd try it. Its a little box which resides externally to the computer and plugs in to the usb port. A picture is here: http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=207&product=154 When plugged in I can hear clicks and pops as something is working, but no music - not even the welcome tone. I have rebooted with the audi box installed and got KMix to show it, selected that but no sound. I get sound through the earphones on my Mac iBook, so the earphones are not at fault, and I've tried a variety of earphones to see if there's any compatibility problems. With all of them there is no sound on the Kubuntu box, but sound on other things. I presume its a driver problem but I can find nowhere to go to. Any help would be appreciated! -- Graham Todd From ejviolet at yahoo.com Mon Nov 5 14:45:38 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 06:45:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <472E7CB4.3010402@bmts.com> Message-ID: <190531.22128.qm@web39607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Scott wrote: > Martin Walshe wrote: > It may be possible that the NTFS partition is severely corrupted > and can > not be read from. That could be the reason why your friends > computer > crashed. I have never had any problems reading from a NTFS > partition. I had this problem at one time. I ended up trying several live CDs and DSL finally was able to mount the partition when no others could. I don't understand why no others would work. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 15:13:07 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:13:07 -0500 Subject: Problems With Sound In-Reply-To: <20071105091739.1d96de9b@graham-desktop> References: <20071105091739.1d96de9b@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711050713w60954d7bi52bdc7978576fc1c@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 5, 2007 4:17 AM, Graham wrote: > I am running Gutsy and I have a problem with obtaining any sound. > > When the current box I am using was a WinXP machine I stopped getting > sound through the headphones. Looking inside I think there is a loose > connection. My wife had good things to say about the Creative Labs > Soundblaster MP3+ (Model S80270), so I thought I'd try it. > > Its a little box which resides externally to the computer and plugs in > to the usb port. A picture is here: > > http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=207&product=154 > > When plugged in I can hear clicks and pops as something is working, but > no music - not even the welcome tone. I have rebooted with the audi > box installed and got KMix to show it, selected that but no sound. > > I get sound through the earphones on my Mac iBook, so the earphones are > not at fault, and I've tried a variety of earphones to see if there's > any compatibility problems. With all of them there is no sound on the > Kubuntu box, but sound on other things. > > I presume its a driver problem but I can find nowhere to go to. Any > help would be appreciated! > > -- > > Graham Todd Perhaps your sound is turned down *really* low? I had a problem with Gutsy's sound and then realized that the volume was very very low (at max volume I could barely hear anything). Try running "alsamixer" from the command prompt and play around in there (turn up the volume and unmute channels). "OO" means the channel is unmuted and "MM" means the channel is muted. HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From d.mcglone at att.net Mon Nov 5 15:52:37 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:52:37 -0500 Subject: Receiving mail from list Message-ID: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> I don't think i'm receiving mail from the list, unless it's completely dead. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 16:11:31 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:11:31 +0200 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711051811.31471.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I don't think i'm receiving mail from the list, unless it's completely > dead. I got it and my net is really shabby. \d From d.mcglone at att.net Mon Nov 5 16:24:57 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:24:57 -0500 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711051811.31471.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711051811.31471.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711051124.57498.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 05 November 2007 11:11:31 am Donn wrote: > > I don't think i'm receiving mail from the list, unless it's completely > > dead. > > I got it and my net is really shabby. I solved the problem :-) My procmail was filtering to a folder that didn't exsist instead of me, so it was basically sending it to /dev/null. David M. From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 5 17:41:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:41:51 -0400 Subject: KDE problem - Only desktop wallpaper visible References: <1193978132.8633.5.camel@appu> <200711020854.13883.kassube@gmx.net> <10977853.pzpexfGDbU@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711021934.33440.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1395423.FjVIdMz1MX@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Nils Kassube wrote: >> > Sundar wrote: >> >> When I log into kde session, I am able to see only the desktop >> >> wallpaper. There is no panel or windows or desktop icons visible. >> >> When I do Alt+f1 I get the kmenu but once i select an application, >> >> only the wallpaper is displayed. >> >> >> >> When I login to gnome everything compiz+screenlets works well. > ^^^^^ >> > >> > With GNOME >> >> why do we assume he has Gnome? > > Because I did read the line you quoted above :) Doh! Sorry... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 5 17:41:20 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:41:20 -0400 Subject: Debian package files open in Kate References: <200710311832.15591.dreadgeek@gmail.com> <472952AA.4090705@fastmail.fm> <2292182.WUIrxDeqW0@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711020533.05346.dreadgeek@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3779006.aeWxUEsmJp@cedar.serverforest.com> Adrienne J Davis wrote: > I'm using Gutsy. > > On Thursday 01 November 2007 06:43:18 Derek Broughton wrote: >> Karl wrote: >> > Adrienne J Davis wrote: >> >> Hey folks: >> >> >> >> When I attempt to download a .deb file, it ends up opening in Kate. >> >> This isn't, of course, what I want it to do. In trying to fix this, I >> >> ended up deleting my x-deb definition in Konqueror out of frustration, >> >> thinking that it would default to 'ask to save' but that didn't work. >> >> So, if one of you would be so kind as to look in Konqueror and tell me >> >> what the definition for .deb is supposed to be so that it behaves >> >> right, I would be grateful. Thanks. >> > >> > In my Konqueror it's /usr/share/applications/kde/gdebi-kde.desktop >> >> What version are you running, Adrienne? I'm pretty sure I didn't have >> this in Feisty, but I do in Gutsy (it certainly treats them as text files >> on the Feisty machine that's been upgrading Ubuntu versions for years, >> but I'm not sure about the one where I installed Feisty fresh and now has >> Gutsy). -- In that case, you may need to search through your .kde/ folder for .desktop files that are overriding the default behaviour. Make sure that the gdebi-kde package is installed. -- derek From bootgr at gmail.com Mon Nov 5 17:48:52 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 11:48:52 -0600 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711051124.57498.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711051811.31471.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711051124.57498.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <720b310e0711050948g579f9051o451379d26759e392@mail.gmail.com> On 11/5/07, David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 05 November 2007 11:11:31 am Donn wrote: > > > I don't think i'm receiving mail from the list, unless it's completely > > > dead. > > > > I got it and my net is really shabby. > > I solved the problem :-) My procmail was filtering to a folder that didn't > exsist instead of me, so it was basically sending it to /dev/null. > > David M. > Ahh /dev/null, 100% compression folder ! Literally reduces your storage needs to NOTHING ! Greg From michael at weblore.com Mon Nov 5 18:09:36 2007 From: michael at weblore.com (Michael Satterwhite) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:09:36 -0600 Subject: DVD Screen Capture Message-ID: <200711051209.37193.michael@weblore.com> I've had a DVD made of one of my shows, and I want to pull a few individual frames off. The Windows DVD player I used back in the dark ages would have made this a trivial process ... and I'm guessing it should be now, but I don't know how. Is there a way to do a frame capture in Kaffeine or another commonly available player? I even tried doing a screen capture in Gimp, but it just captures a blank screen. Thanks for the help. ---Michael www.michaels-magic.com From mats.holmberg at dnainternet.net Mon Nov 5 19:05:55 2007 From: mats.holmberg at dnainternet.net (Mats Holmberg) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:05:55 +0200 Subject: DVD Screen Capture In-Reply-To: <200711051209.37193.michael@weblore.com> References: <200711051209.37193.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <472F6993.3050409@dnainternet.net> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I've had a DVD made of one of my shows, and I want to pull a few individual > frames off. The Windows DVD player I used back in the dark ages would have > made this a trivial process ... and I'm guessing it should be now, but I > don't know how. > > Is there a way to do a frame capture in Kaffeine or another commonly available > player? I even tried doing a screen capture in Gimp, but it just captures a > blank screen. > > Thanks for the help. > > ---Michael > www.michaels-magic.com > > Xine has a snapshot tool. Cheers, Mats From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Mon Nov 5 20:45:53 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:45:53 -0600 Subject: missing plugins Message-ID: hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and I find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to Linux. Thanks in advance guys. "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" From janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi Mon Nov 5 19:49:56 2007 From: janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Janne_V=E4nttinen?=) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:49:56 +0200 Subject: DVD Screen Capture In-Reply-To: <200711051209.37193.michael@weblore.com> References: <200711051209.37193.michael@weblore.com> Message-ID: <472F73E4.4070101@cs.helsinki.fi> Michael Satterwhite wrote: > Is there a way to do a frame capture in Kaffeine or another commonly available > player? I even tried doing a screen capture in Gimp, but it just captures a > blank screen. In Kaffeine, Ctrl-S or File->Save Screenshot. -- - Janne From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 5 18:24:22 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:24:22 -0400 Subject: Issues with upgrade to gutsy References: Message-ID: <1397029.nO3VFMm4hh@cedar.serverforest.com> marc wrote: > I have a number of issues after upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy. > > 1. Cannot drag and drop file from the desktop onto an editor. I can drag > from a file manager, but not from the desktop. The cursor turns red > when I try, and action won't be performed. I can't duplicate that. I just dragged a .py file from my desktop into an open Kate. > > 2. Editors launched from a file manager with root privileges no longer > have root permissions. Definitely. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/158028 Unfortunately, I think this is considered a feature. There are some work-arounds given in the bug report. > 3. If I have apps open with kdesudo privs, log out, then log back in, > the kdesudo apps open with root privileges without being prompted > for a password. Haven't seen that (yet). Old behaviour, ime, was to restart app at the "kdesu" prompt - and would open with root privilege _after_ you gave your password; which seems correct. However, note that kdesudo is supposed to work _like sudo_. That means that, by default, it remembers your password for 15 minutes - so if you log out and right back in, it should probably open right away. > In addition, a dialogue opens stating: > Information - kdesudo > No command arguments supplied: > Usage... > kdesudo will now exit... > Requiring a click on an okay button to continue. So, sounds like it _is_ trying to do the same thing, but not correctly. > 4. The kdm screen displays the kde wallpaper and dialogue - which are > horrible. Attempts at retrieving my feisty settings do nothing; > namely, overwriting: > > /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc and > /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc I know for a fact that kdmrc won't be replaced by an aptitude install or upgrade without a prompt. If you upgraded solely with the adept upgrade manager, and it didn't give those prompts, file a bug. I decided to let aptitude replace mine just to see what the new default looked like (I like it), which is how I know it prompted. Your old ones _should_ be stored in the kdm directory as kdmrc.dpkg-old > I also noticed that the "upgraded" version of kdmrc is the very old > version without comments - badger of before? iirc, it never has comments once it's been configured in "System Settings", but mine (from the upgrade) certainly has comments. > 5. Print screen no longer works. Hitting the PrtSc button does nothing, Never used it, but I would expect that to be a command shortcut to something - so probably related to the next... > 6. I lost all my kdemenu key bindings with the upgrade. That would be annoying. > 7. Some desktop icons occasionally go out of alignment. This can be > tidied with a refresh desktop or nudging any icon, but it's a bit > naff. No idea. > > 8. I clicked the "strigi" icon in kdemenu - no idea what it is, but I > thought I'd investigate. However, all it seems to do is attempt to > launch firefox, then present an alert saying: LOL. In my case, it opens Quanta - which suggests to me that it's just an XML file, and nothing knows what to do with it. Quite the waste of effort if you ask me. I'm afraid I really don't think there's anything you can do to "fix" these things, except #4. They are either bugs or intentional features. They may get fixed at some later point, but you'll still end up manually redoing things like key bindings. -- derek From werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Nov 6 00:11:11 2007 From: werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk (Rod Joyce) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:11:11 +0000 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711060011.11392.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> On Monday 05 November 2007 20:45:53 ndemalia armstrong wrote: > hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it > complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue and > even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate any > input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the > tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and I > find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to Linux. > > Thanks in advance guys. > > "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" Is your computer a 32- or a 64-bit machine? There are no (or hardly any) 64-bit plug-ins for Firefox, and installing or trying to install 32-bit plug-ins will not work. (Windoze cheats by having rather a lot of 32-bit code, for all I know, some of it is still 16-bit). Rod From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 6 00:21:54 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:21:54 -0600 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <200711060011.11392.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <200711060011.11392.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: Rod thanks a bunch for the quick response, I do have the amd 64 bit machine....that's interesting to know so, is there any other way i can go around this? "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" ----------------------------------------> From: werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: missing plugins> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:11:11 +0000>> On Monday 05 November 2007 20:45:53 ndemalia armstrong wrote:>> hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it>> complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue and>> even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate any>> input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the>> tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and I>> find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to Linux.>>>> Thanks in advance guys.>>>> "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend">> Is your computer a 32- or a 64-bit machine? There are no (or hardly any)> 64-bit plug-ins for Firefox, and installing or trying to install 32-bit> plug-ins will not work. (Windoze cheats by having rather a lot of 32-bit> code, for all I know, some of it is still 16-bit).> Rod>>> --> kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From almilis at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 00:56:56 2007 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 07:56:56 +0700 Subject: Install: Problem With an Old Monitor Message-ID: <36135600711051656j6f6c2673yc85387011a30481b@mail.gmail.com> I have some problem when installing Kubuntu on an old system, P4/233MMX, 256MB on an ASUS P4A-B with NVIDIA TNT-2. On Knoppix, it can be solved by adding: VSYNC=60, HSYNC=60. Is there any simpler way when using K/UBUNTU besides: ''dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg''? -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ Ubuntu User # 14458 - http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 6 01:32:31 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:32:31 -0500 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711050948g579f9051o451379d26759e392@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711051124.57498.d.mcglone@att.net> <720b310e0711050948g579f9051o451379d26759e392@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711052032.31566.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 05 November 2007 12:48:52 pm Greg Booth wrote: > On 11/5/07, David McGlone wrote: > > On Monday 05 November 2007 11:11:31 am Donn wrote: > > > > I don't think i'm receiving mail from the list, unless it's > > > > completely dead. > > > > > > I got it and my net is really shabby. > > > > I solved the problem :-) My procmail was filtering to a folder that > > didn't exsist instead of me, so it was basically sending it to /dev/null. > > > > David M. > > Ahh /dev/null, 100% compression folder ! Literally reduces your > storage needs to NOTHING ! Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Nov 6 02:11:08 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:11:08 -0400 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711052032.31566.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <720b310e0711050948g579f9051o451379d26759e392@mail.gmail.com> <200711052032.31566.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711052111.08922.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >On Monday 05 November 2007 12:48:52 pm Greg Booth wrote: >> On 11/5/07, David McGlone wrote: >> > On Monday 05 November 2007 11:11:31 am Donn wrote: >> > > > I don't think i'm receiving mail from the list, unless it's >> > > > completely dead. >> > > >> > > I got it and my net is really shabby. >> > >> > I solved the problem :-) My procmail was filtering to a folder that >> > didn't exsist instead of me, so it was basically sending it to >> > /dev/null. >> > >> > David M. >> >> Ahh /dev/null, 100% compression folder ! Literally reduces your >> storage needs to NOTHING ! > >Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "Though a program be but three lines long, someday it will have to be maintained." -- The Tao of Programming From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Nov 6 02:19:14 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:19:14 -0600 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711052111.08922.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <720b310e0711050948g579f9051o451379d26759e392@mail.gmail.com> <200711052032.31566.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052111.08922.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > >> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) >> > > Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. Where should grouchy old men be sent? From stew.schneider at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 02:28:32 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:28:32 -0500 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <720b310e0711050948g579f9051o451379d26759e392@mail.gmail.com> <200711052032.31566.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052111.08922.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> Message-ID: <472FD150.1050002@gmail.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> >> >>> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) >>> >>> >> Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. >> > > Where should grouchy old men be sent? > To /dev/Cancun/pool_bar of course, and the sooner the better. November is here. From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 6 03:01:40 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 22:01:40 -0500 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052111.08922.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200711052201.40262.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 05 November 2007 9:19:14 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > >> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) > > > > Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. > > Where should grouchy old men be sent? You would have to ask my wife, since we haven't invented /dev/grouchy/women yet. Otherwise I would answer. -- David M. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Nov 6 03:10:29 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:10:29 -0400 Subject: Receiving mail from list [OT] In-Reply-To: <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052111.08922.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200711052210.29311.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 05 November 2007, Billie Walsh wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >>> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) >> >> Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. > >Where should grouchy old men be sent? Same /dev/null I expect Billie, but that would hurt my feelings cuz I resemble that remark. :-) If my mood isn't exactly smiling folks, please bear with me. A man isn't supposed to outlive his kids, but my 2nd to go has a remaining time measured in 2, maybe 3 days. Cancer, in the terminal stage, isn't pretty, but that's not news to those who've seen it. But I had to go and say goodbye in person. A 3100 mile drive, every inch worth it to her. I'll get back to my normal grouchy self eventually, promise... -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Anyone can make an omelet with eggs. The trick is to make one with none. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Nov 6 03:11:42 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:11:42 -0400 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711052201.40262.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> <200711052201.40262.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711052211.42093.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >On Monday 05 November 2007 9:19:14 pm Billie Walsh wrote: >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> >> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) >> > >> > Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. >> >> Where should grouchy old men be sent? > >You would have to ask my wife, since we haven't invented /dev/grouchy/women >yet. Otherwise I would answer. > I think after that remark, I'd get me a food taster, :) >-- >David M. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) A penny saved is a penny to squander. -- Ambrose Bierce From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Nov 6 04:00:13 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:00:13 -0600 Subject: Receiving mail from list [OT] In-Reply-To: <200711052210.29311.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052111.08922.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> <200711052210.29311.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <472FE6CD.7090908@swbell.net> On 11/05/2007 Gene Heskett wrote: > If my mood isn't exactly smiling folks, please bear with me. A man isn't > supposed to outlive his kids, but my 2nd to go has a remaining time measured > in 2, maybe 3 days. Cancer, in the terminal stage, isn't pretty, but that's > not news to those who've seen it. But I had to go and say goodbye in person. > A 3100 mile drive, every inch worth it to her. Sorry to hear this. We will keep you, and yours , in our prayers. Your right. We should not outlive our children. I can't imagine what I would do if I lost one of mine. > > I'll get back to my normal grouchy self eventually, promise... We're gonna hold you to that. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Nov 6 04:03:37 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:03:37 -0600 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> Message-ID: <472FE799.1010007@swbell.net> On 11/04/2007 Scott wrote: > You can find instructions here: > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/mountNTFSreadonly?highlight=%28ntfs%29 That wasn't exactly sent to my question but it sure did the trick. Thank you. However I do have a question about it. Will this carry over if I reboot? [ well maybe two questions ] If not how can I make it so it does do it automatically on boot up? From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Nov 6 04:29:50 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:29:50 -0400 Subject: Receiving mail from list [OT] In-Reply-To: <472FE6CD.7090908@swbell.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052210.29311.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <472FE6CD.7090908@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200711052329.50362.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 05 November 2007, Billie Walsh wrote: >On 11/05/2007 Gene Heskett wrote: >> If my mood isn't exactly smiling folks, please bear with me. A man isn't >> supposed to outlive his kids, but my 2nd to go has a remaining time > >measured > >> in 2, maybe 3 days. Cancer, in the terminal stage, isn't pretty, but > >that's > >> not news to those who've seen it. But I had to go and say goodbye in > >person. > >> A 3100 mile drive, every inch worth it to her. > >Sorry to hear this. We will keep you, and yours , in our prayers. > Thank you, its appreciated. >Your right. We should not outlive our children. I can't imagine what I >would do if I lost one of mine. > >> I'll get back to my normal grouchy self eventually, promise... > >We're gonna hold you to that. Remind me from time to time if I get too nice. :-) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If you don't have time to do it right, where are you going to find the time to do it over? From kbl at nucleus.com Tue Nov 6 07:29:51 2007 From: kbl at nucleus.com (Ken Larkman) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:29:51 -0700 Subject: _: Entries in K-Menu: preceding entries in K Menu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711060029.52039.kbl@nucleus.com> On Sunday 04 November 2007 05:12:04 T. Lombardy wrote: > After upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 I now have _: Entries in K-Menu preceding > the majority of my apps. (FYI) I updated when Adept notified me there was > a new version. When Strigi updated this morning, a new entry on K-menu was > preceded by this. It is more of an annoyance than anything. Doesn't > affect my system. Just would like to know how to get rid of it. Any > suggestions? Thanks in advance. Tom, The answer is actually pretty simple. Right mouse click on the offending entry and choose "Edit item". Clear the description and comment fields. Then, choose FILE > SAVE. That should restore the entry on the menu. You can do multiple items at a time by going through the menu item by item. - Ken From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Nov 6 07:41:38 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:41:38 +0200 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> > hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and I find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to Linux. 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter "Adding the Repositories" E.g. in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy): a) sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list b) wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update 2) Install codecs - see the chapter "Playing Non-Native Media Formats" E.g. in 32-bit systems: sudo apt-get install w32codecs 3) Install mplayerplug-in for Firefox: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer It installs also appropriate version of mplayer as dependency if you don't have already mplayer. Firefox, I guess, should be installed by default in Ubuntu. I suggest install also: sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts mplayer-skins Also after each installation run: sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a && sudo apt-get clean This makes mandatory configurations and cleanings instead of doing restart as probably in Windows should do. 4) Then open Firefox and write to the address bar about:plugins and press Enter. Now you see the codecs, which are supported by mplayer and its plugins Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, mplayerplug-in should do the trick. Also you may during video playback make right mouse click on the video and gain access to mplayerplug-in settings. On right bottom corner you may see small button, which gives the opportunity to switch full screen mode. You may also try usual mplayer keyboard shortcuts. Also see the man mplayer page for further instructions and possibilities. Best Regards, Edmund From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Nov 6 07:50:26 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:50:26 +0200 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <472FE799.1010007@swbell.net> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> <472FE799.1010007@swbell.net> Message-ID: <47301CC2.20308@mail.ee> >> You can find instructions here: >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/mountNTFSreadonly?highlight=%28ntfs%29 > > That wasn't exactly sent to my question but it sure did the trick. Thank > you. > > However I do have a question about it. Will this carry over if I reboot? > [ well maybe two questions ] If not how can I make it so it does do it > automatically on boot up? Use the ntfs-3g as third party NTFS full read-write driver. In Ubuntu 7.10 you don't need to add no extra repository - ntfs-3g and ntfs-config should already at existing repositories. Just type: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config This should install also ntfs-3g package as dependency if it's not yet installed. then run: sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a && sudo apt-get clean Now you can open NTFS configuration tool: sudo ntfs-config ... and put "birds" to where its necessary and hit "OK". That's it! The /etc/fstab will be rewritten with right parameters and now are ntfs partitions fully accessible with read-write permissions and also after reboot. Optional reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G Best Regards, Edmund From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 07:45:33 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:45:33 +0200 Subject: _: Entries in K-Menu: preceding entries in K Menu In-Reply-To: <200711060029.52039.kbl@nucleus.com> References: <200711060029.52039.kbl@nucleus.com> Message-ID: <47301B9D.9030906@gmail.com> Ken Larkman wrote: > On Sunday 04 November 2007 05:12:04 T. Lombardy wrote: >> After upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 I now have _: Entries in K-Menu preceding >> the majority of my apps. (FYI) I updated when Adept notified me there was >> a new version. When Strigi updated this morning, a new entry on K-menu was >> preceded by this. It is more of an annoyance than anything. Doesn't >> affect my system. Just would like to know how to get rid of it. Any >> suggestions? Thanks in advance. > > Tom, > > The answer is actually pretty simple. Right mouse click on the offending entry > and choose "Edit item". Clear the description and comment fields. Then, > choose FILE > SAVE. That should restore the entry on the menu. > > You can do multiple items at a time by going through the menu item by item. > this might just be my personal experience but everytime I edit the K-menu I end up with a messed up menu that later will lack items for newly installed software. Have decided to do my next clean install and then never edit the menu again. Sinclair From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Nov 6 08:00:26 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:00:26 +0200 Subject: Install: Problem With an Old Monitor In-Reply-To: <36135600711051656j6f6c2673yc85387011a30481b@mail.gmail.com> References: <36135600711051656j6f6c2673yc85387011a30481b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47301F1A.1050205@mail.ee> > I have some problem when installing Kubuntu on an old system, > P4/233MMX, 256MB on an ASUS P4A-B with NVIDIA TNT-2. I don't suggest KDE for less than 512MB RAM machines. Also I don't suggest Gnome for less than 384MB RAM. So there is still Xubuntu with XFCE, which is good for 256MB RAM. > On Knoppix, it can be solved by adding: VSYNC=60, HSYNC=60. In Ubuntu should be e.g.: Section "Monitor" ... HorizSync: 30-111 VertRefresh: 50-160 .... EndSection It means, that monitor has 30-111 kHz horizontal and 50-160 Hz vertical frequency. Be careful and replace these numbers with your monitor numbers, otherwise you may damage your monitor. These numbers belongs to LG F900P 19" CRT monitor. You are been warned! Also you may use modelines in your monitor section but with new Ubuntu 7.10 monitor configuration tool there is perhaps not needed if you can configure your monitor with this GUI tool. Best Regards, Edmund From maurograuso at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 08:45:47 2007 From: maurograuso at gmail.com (Mauro Grauso) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:45:47 +0100 Subject: Compiz-fusion install Message-ID: Hi all, I have a fresh Kubuntu 7.10 install with proprietary Nvidia drivers on my desktop PC. I was wondering if there's a recommended procedure to install compiz-fusion (with plugins) or it's enough to "sudo apt-get compiz" to have it installed and working. Thanks. Mauro_ From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Tue Nov 6 10:57:31 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:57:31 +0000 Subject: Problems With Sound In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711050713w60954d7bi52bdc7978576fc1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071105091739.1d96de9b@graham-desktop> <9bed467e0711050713w60954d7bi52bdc7978576fc1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071106105731.01c2b8b9@graham-desktop> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:13:07 -0500 "Andrew Jarrett" wrote: > Perhaps your sound is turned down *really* low? I had a problem with > Gutsy's sound and then realized that the volume was very very low (at > max volume I could barely hear anything). Try running "alsamixer" > from the command prompt and play around in there (turn up the volume > and unmute channels). "OO" means the channel is unmuted and "MM" > means the channel is muted. > > HTH, > Andrew Thanks Andrew, but it didn't work. KMix toggled between my on board sound and my Creative Labs SoundBlaster MP3+ device, but alsamixer frustratingly continued to connect to the onboard sound (even though the jack port seems to be disconnected). Neither of them output any sound. Can anyone else help? -- Graham Todd From almilis at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 11:05:52 2007 From: almilis at gmail.com (Ali Milis) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:05:52 +0700 Subject: Install: Problem With an Old Monitor In-Reply-To: <47301F1A.1050205@mail.ee> References: <36135600711051656j6f6c2673yc85387011a30481b@mail.gmail.com> <47301F1A.1050205@mail.ee> Message-ID: <36135600711060305m309464e2g6be5addda5a67561@mail.gmail.com> > Also you may use modelines in your monitor section but with new Ubuntu 7.10 monitor configuration > tool there is perhaps not needed if you can configure your monitor with this GUI tool. Thanks, but may I know how to configure the monitor using the GUI tool? And thanks, will try Xubuntu first... regards, -- Raja Ali M.I. Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ Ubuntu User # 14458 - http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Nov 6 11:10:17 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 06:10:17 -0500 Subject: Problems With Sound In-Reply-To: <20071106105731.01c2b8b9@graham-desktop> References: <20071105091739.1d96de9b@graham-desktop> <9bed467e0711050713w60954d7bi52bdc7978576fc1c@mail.gmail.com> <20071106105731.01c2b8b9@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <200711060610.18496.pkaplan1@comcast.net> The following worked for me on a sound-dead Feisty: Launch the kde control panel (kcontrol). Go to KDE Components, then Service Manager Unselect KMilo under Startup Services Paul On Tuesday 06 November 2007 5:57:31 am Graham wrote: > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:13:07 -0500 > > "Andrew Jarrett" wrote: > > Perhaps your sound is turned down *really* low? I had a problem with > > Gutsy's sound and then realized that the volume was very very low (at > > max volume I could barely hear anything). Try running "alsamixer" > > from the command prompt and play around in there (turn up the volume > > and unmute channels). "OO" means the channel is unmuted and "MM" > > means the channel is muted. > > > > HTH, > > Andrew > > Thanks Andrew, but it didn't work. > > KMix toggled between my on board sound and my Creative Labs > SoundBlaster MP3+ device, but alsamixer frustratingly continued to > connect to the onboard sound (even though the jack port seems to be > disconnected). Neither of them output any sound. > > Can anyone else help? > > -- > > Graham Todd From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 6 11:43:13 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 06:43:13 -0500 Subject: Receiving mail from list [OT] In-Reply-To: <200711052210.29311.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <472FCF22.6010507@swbell.net> <200711052210.29311.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711060643.13639.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 05 November 2007 10:10:29 pm Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 05 November 2007, Billie Walsh wrote: > >Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > >>> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. ;-) > >> > >> Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. > > > >Where should grouchy old men be sent? > > Same /dev/null I expect Billie, but that would hurt my feelings cuz I > resemble that remark. :-) > > If my mood isn't exactly smiling folks, please bear with me. A man isn't > supposed to outlive his kids, but my 2nd to go has a remaining time > measured in 2, maybe 3 days. Cancer, in the terminal stage, isn't pretty, > but that's not news to those who've seen it. But I had to go and say > goodbye in person. A 3100 mile drive, every inch worth it to her. You'll be in our prayers. > > I'll get back to my normal grouchy self eventually, promise... Please do. -- You will be attacked by a beast who has the body of a wolf, the tail of a lion, and the face of Donald Duck. From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 6 11:55:37 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 06:55:37 -0500 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711052211.42093.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052201.40262.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052211.42093.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711060655.37856.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 05 November 2007 10:11:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > >On Monday 05 November 2007 9:19:14 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > >> >> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. > >> >> ;-) > >> > > >> > Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. > >> > >> Where should grouchy old men be sent? > > > >You would have to ask my wife, since we haven't invented > > /dev/grouchy/women yet. Otherwise I would answer. > > I think after that remark, I'd get me a food taster, :) I got one. My Wife's cat. But let me clear a little confusion here about this whole remark I originally started. When I made the remark, in no way was I thinking death. I was thinking something more like a soundproof closet or something. maybe a gag. All in All, this thread went from funny to starting to creep me out... LOL -- David M. In the plot, people came to the land; the land loved them; they worked and struggled and had lots of children. There was a Frenchman who talked funny and a greenhorn from England who was a fancy-pants but when it came to the crunch he was all courage. Those novels would make you retch. -- Canadian novelist Robertson Davies, on the generic Canadian novel. From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 6 12:14:26 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:14:26 -0500 Subject: Problems With Sound In-Reply-To: <200711060610.18496.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <20071105091739.1d96de9b@graham-desktop> <9bed467e0711050713w60954d7bi52bdc7978576fc1c@mail.gmail.com> <20071106105731.01c2b8b9@graham-desktop> <200711060610.18496.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47305AA2.8040102@sbcglobal.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Paul Kaplan wrote: > The following worked for me on a sound-dead Feisty: > Launch the kde control panel (kcontrol). > Go to KDE Components, then Service Manager > Unselect KMilo under Startup Services > > Paul > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 5:57:31 am Graham wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:13:07 -0500 >> >> "Andrew Jarrett" wrote: >>> Perhaps your sound is turned down *really* low? I had a problem with >>> Gutsy's sound and then realized that the volume was very very low (at >>> max volume I could barely hear anything). Try running "alsamixer" >>> from the command prompt and play around in there (turn up the volume >>> and unmute channels). "OO" means the channel is unmuted and "MM" >>> means the channel is muted. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Andrew >> Thanks Andrew, but it didn't work. >> >> KMix toggled between my on board sound and my Creative Labs >> SoundBlaster MP3+ device, but alsamixer frustratingly continued to >> connect to the onboard sound (even though the jack port seems to be >> disconnected). Neither of them output any sound. >> >> Can anyone else help? >> >> -- >> >> Graham Todd > > > I am really not qualified to help, but maybe this will jog your own mind to a new possibility. If sound is an option on your mother board, it should be turned off for a sound card to work properly. I am not instructed, so maybe this isn't right, however, if I am, you must turn off the onboard sound and there won't be anything to switch back and forth with. The computer should go straight to your sound card then. You were given good advice about the midi, though. That was a problem for a short time with my installation. I adjusted the volume up on the midi where I was able; now the sound is both good and healthy. Sounds great. Maybe the bios is where you turn off the onboard sound, I don't know; you may even have to do it on the motherboard itself. I just don't know. Steven -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHMFqipzIySfeQeAYRAmqSAJ9AhIsJUO1Cf6nUfADVprp3bpA/NACglVeh MHyiBORGn4arDeSQjUjaclk= =JdTl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 6 13:13:38 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:13:38 -0500 Subject: Problems With Sound In-Reply-To: <47305AA2.8040102@sbcglobal.net> References: <20071105091739.1d96de9b@graham-desktop> <200711060610.18496.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <47305AA2.8040102@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200711060813.39293.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 7:14:26 am Steven Vollom wrote: > Paul Kaplan wrote: > > The following worked for me on a sound-dead Feisty: > > Launch the kde control panel (kcontrol). > > Go to KDE Components, then Service Manager > > Unselect KMilo under Startup Services > > > > Paul > > > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 5:57:31 am Graham wrote: > >> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:13:07 -0500 > >> > >> "Andrew Jarrett" wrote: > >>> Perhaps your sound is turned down *really* low? I had a problem with > >>> Gutsy's sound and then realized that the volume was very very low (at > >>> max volume I could barely hear anything). Try running "alsamixer" > >>> from the command prompt and play around in there (turn up the volume > >>> and unmute channels). "OO" means the channel is unmuted and "MM" > >>> means the channel is muted. > >>> > >>> HTH, > >>> Andrew > >> > >> Thanks Andrew, but it didn't work. > >> > >> KMix toggled between my on board sound and my Creative Labs > >> SoundBlaster MP3+ device, but alsamixer frustratingly continued to > >> connect to the onboard sound (even though the jack port seems to be > >> disconnected). Neither of them output any sound. > >> > >> Can anyone else help? > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Graham Todd > > I am really not qualified to help, but maybe this will jog your own mind > to a new possibility. If sound is an option on your mother board, it > should be turned off for a sound card to work properly. I am not > instructed, so maybe this isn't right, however, if I am, you must turn > off the onboard sound and there won't be anything to switch back and > forth with. The computer should go straight to your sound card then. > You were given good advice about the midi, though. That was a problem > for a short time with my installation. I adjusted the volume up on the > midi where I was able; now the sound is both good and healthy. Sounds > great. Maybe the bios is where you turn off the onboard sound, I don't > know; you may even have to do it on the motherboard itself. I just > don't know. BIOS -- You will be attacked by a beast who has the body of a wolf, the tail of a lion, and the face of Donald Duck. From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 6 13:24:12 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:24:12 -0500 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <472FE799.1010007@swbell.net> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> <472FE799.1010007@swbell.net> Message-ID: <47306AFC.4040500@sbcglobal.net> Billie Walsh wrote: > On 11/04/2007 Scott wrote: > >> You can find instructions here: >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/mountNTFSreadonly?highlight=%28ntfs%29 >> > > That wasn't exactly sent to my question but it sure did the trick. Thank > you. > > However I do have a question about it. Will this carry over if I reboot? > [ well maybe two questions ] If not how can I make it so it does do it > automatically on boot up? > > Yes, I tried that command and it still can't read hdb1. Thanks for your help. From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 14:15:10 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 08:15:10 -0600 Subject: Reading NTFS In-Reply-To: <47306AFC.4040500@sbcglobal.net> References: <472CF4DE.40302@sbcglobal.net> <472DC400.7030503@bmts.com> <472FE799.1010007@swbell.net> <47306AFC.4040500@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <720b310e0711060615j3a0d5f83n18d3bd2d0dfa71@mail.gmail.com> On 11/6/07, Jim wrote: > Billie Walsh wrote: > > On 11/04/2007 Scott wrote: > > > >> You can find instructions here: > >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/mountNTFSreadonly?highlight=%28ntfs%29 > >> > > > > That wasn't exactly sent to my question but it sure did the trick. Thank > > you. > > > > However I do have a question about it. Will this carry over if I reboot? > > [ well maybe two questions ] If not how can I make it so it does do it > > automatically on boot up? > > > > > Yes, I tried that command and it still can't read hdb1. > Thanks for your help. > Sounds like a corrupted hard drive. Sounds strange coming from a linux mailing list but have you tried mounting it behind another XP install and using some of the advanced hard drive data recovery tools on it ? I use http://www.pcinspector.de/Sites/file_recovery/info.htm?language=1 To recover files from my USB drive when it frags itself ( happened twice now ) It's freeware, if not open source, but it works and recovered about two months worth of work. Wish there was a linux opensource tool that worked as well as it does. Greg From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Nov 6 14:33:15 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:33:15 -0400 Subject: Receiving mail from list In-Reply-To: <200711060655.37856.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711051052.37544.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711052211.42093.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <200711060655.37856.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711060933.15287.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Tuesday 06 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >On Monday 05 November 2007 10:11:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> >On Monday 05 November 2007 9:19:14 pm Billie Walsh wrote: >> >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> > On Monday 05 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> >> >> Now we just need to find a way to send grouchy women to /dev/null. >> >> >> ;-) >> >> > >> >> > Yes, but patent it & make a killing legally. >> >> >> >> Where should grouchy old men be sent? >> > >> >You would have to ask my wife, since we haven't invented >> > /dev/grouchy/women yet. Otherwise I would answer. >> >> I think after that remark, I'd get me a food taster, :) > >I got one. My Wife's cat. > :-) But the cat that adopted us a couple of years ago wouldn't do, it has a continuously upset tummy. Like most cats, if there is food in the bowl, it absolutely has to be eaten until it comes back up. >But let me clear a little confusion here about this whole remark I > originally started. When I made the remark, in no way was I thinking death. > I was thinking something more like a soundproof closet or something. maybe > a gag. The trouble with soundproof closets is that they DO have a door. :-) >All in All, this thread went from funny to starting to creep me out... LOL Hey, its all in fun! -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The FALAFEL SANDWICH lands on my HEAD and I become a VEGETARIAN ... From slewin at bmts.com Tue Nov 6 15:47:13 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:47:13 -0500 Subject: _: Entries in K-Menu: preceding entries in K Menu In-Reply-To: <200711060029.52039.kbl@nucleus.com> References: <200711060029.52039.kbl@nucleus.com> Message-ID: <47308C81.1040202@bmts.com> Ken Larkman wrote: > The answer is actually pretty simple. Right mouse click on the offending entry > and choose "Edit item". Clear the description and comment fields. Then, > choose FILE > SAVE. That should restore the entry on the menu. > > You can do multiple items at a time by going through the menu item by item. Doing every item this way would take a while and would be very annoying. :) I do think this problem is corrected because when I did a clean install of Kubuntu 7.10 I got the extra text beside every entry, but after doing an update it seemed to correct itself. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From valtermura at yahoo.it Tue Nov 6 16:24:46 2007 From: valtermura at yahoo.it (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:24:46 +0100 Subject: Problem during booting Message-ID: <200711061724.46323.valtermura@yahoo.it> Hi All, I have a problem during booting. - If I choose the kernel "2.6.22-14-generic" (in grub) the booting arrives till "- checking root file system", give me an "Ok" and then it frezees. I have to unplug the comp and turn it on again. - If a choose the other available kernel "2.6.20.16-generic" the system starts regularly, I mean also in the normal graphical way. My system: Intel P IV, 768 Mb RAM, Graphic card ATI Radeon 9200 SE, two hard disk, one Windows dedicated, one Linux dedicated; Kubuntu 7.10 updated. Thanks for the suggestions, regards, -- Valter Gnupg key: 0x9A058949 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Tue Nov 6 16:40:47 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:40:47 +0000 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> References: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> Message-ID: <200711061640.47309.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:41:38 Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it > > complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue > > and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate > > any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the > > tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and > > I find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to > > Linux. > > 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter "Adding the > Repositories" > > Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, > mplayerplug-in should do the trick. Also you may during video playback make > right mouse click on the video and gain access to mplayerplug-in settings. > On right bottom corner you may see small button, which gives the > opportunity to switch full screen mode. You may also try usual mplayer > keyboard shortcuts. Also see the man mplayer page for further instructions > and possibilities. I'd managed to get most of the plugins working apart from one - RealPlayer - any tips on installing it? I just get a blank box when I try to view the videos on the BBC's website. From bootgr at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 16:50:08 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:50:08 -0600 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <200711061640.47309.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> <200711061640.47309.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> On 11/6/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:41:38 Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > > hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it > > > complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue > > > and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate > > > any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the > > > tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and > > > I find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to > > > Linux. > > > > 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter "Adding the > > Repositories" > > > > > > Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, > > mplayerplug-in should do the trick. Also you may during video playback make > > right mouse click on the video and gain access to mplayerplug-in settings. > > On right bottom corner you may see small button, which gives the > > opportunity to switch full screen mode. You may also try usual mplayer > > keyboard shortcuts. Also see the man mplayer page for further instructions > > and possibilities. > > I'd managed to get most of the plugins working apart from one - RealPlayer - > any tips on installing it? I just get a blank box when I try to view the > videos on the BBC's website. Tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player yet ? From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Nov 6 18:30:16 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:30:16 +0200 Subject: Install: Problem With an Old Monitor In-Reply-To: <36135600711060305m309464e2g6be5addda5a67561@mail.gmail.com> References: <36135600711051656j6f6c2673yc85387011a30481b@mail.gmail.com> <47301F1A.1050205@mail.ee> <36135600711060305m309464e2g6be5addda5a67561@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4730B2B8.7050004@mail.ee> > Thanks, but may I know how to configure the monitor using the GUI tool? http://fosswire.com/2007/08/17/ubuntu-getting-xorgconf-gui/ From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Tue Nov 6 18:44:25 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:44:25 +0000 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711061640.47309.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711061844.26047.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 16:50:08 Greg Booth wrote: > On 11/6/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:41:38 Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > > > hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it > > > > complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this > > > > issue and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really > > > > appreciate any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how > > > > to install the tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still > > > > new with this OS and I find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows > > > > user transitioning to Linux. > > > > > > 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter "Adding > > > the Repositories" > > > > > > > > > Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, > > > mplayerplug-in should do the trick. Also you may during video playback > > > make right mouse click on the video and gain access to mplayerplug-in > > > settings. On right bottom corner you may see small button, which gives > > > the opportunity to switch full screen mode. You may also try usual > > > mplayer keyboard shortcuts. Also see the man mplayer page for further > > > instructions and possibilities. > > > > I'd managed to get most of the plugins working apart from one - > > RealPlayer - any tips on installing it? I just get a blank box when I try > > to view the videos on the BBC's website. > > Tried > > sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player > > yet ? I tried that, but the helix player doesn't support streaming or even the 3gp files from my mobile phone. From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Tue Nov 6 19:10:11 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:10:11 +0100 Subject: Login screen Message-ID: <200711062010.12315.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, I noticed the picture on the login screen and changed it via the systemsettings, and then the about me option. (or something like that, i'm using the dutch language...) In the about me page, the picture is changed. When rebooting, the default picture is stil there.l Any idea's ? Thx, K From werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Nov 6 19:10:18 2007 From: werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk (Rod Joyce) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:10:18 +0000 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: References: <200711060011.11392.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711061910.18247.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 00:21:54 ndemalia armstrong wrote: > Rod thanks a bunch for the quick response, I do have the amd 64 bit > machine....that's interesting to know so, is there any other way i can go > around this? > > > "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" Edward beat me to it, i can't better his reply. Another work round is to use Opera - not Open Source, but free, and supported by an active comunity. However you have to install it using the tar.gz package as the Ubuntu packages are for 32-bit architecture .... My pc is an Intel EMT64 machine. It runs much better on Feisty and (currently) openSUSE 10.3 than it ever did on Windows, but it's taken me quite a lot of fiddling to get there. Rod > > ----------------------------------------> From: > werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: > Re: missing plugins> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 00:11:11 +0000>> On Monday 05 > November 2007 20:45:53 ndemalia armstrong wrote:>> hello! community, I'm > unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it>> complains about missing > plugins, i've read some postings on this issue and>> even tried using adobe > flash to no success i'll really appreciate any>> input on this issue and > perhaps a walk-through on how to install the>> tar..gz I'm using the > Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and I>> find it very > interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to Linux.>>>> Thanks > in advance guys.>>>> "love is the only force capable of transforming an > enemy into a friend">> Is your computer a 32- or a 64-bit machine? There > are no (or hardly any)> 64-bit plug-ins for Firefox, and installing or > trying to install 32-bit> plug-ins will not work. (Windoze cheats by having > rather a lot of 32-bit> code, for all I know, some of it is still 16-bit).> > Rod>>> --> kubuntu-users mailing list> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Nov 6 19:20:58 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:20:58 +0200 Subject: Login screen In-Reply-To: <200711062010.12315.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200711062010.12315.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <4730BE9A.1050004@mail.ee> > I noticed the picture on the login screen and changed it via the > systemsettings, and then the about me option. > (or something like that, i'm using the dutch language...) > > In the about me page, the picture is changed. > When rebooting, the default picture is stil there.l > > Any idea's ? I have also problems with Kubuntu 7.10 KDM themes. It seems like these contain bugs. Or KDM itself. I installed some additional KDM themes and theme changer and changed to another theme. I searched kdm: sudo apt-cache search kdm I'm not currently at 7.10 and therefore cannot tell the exact package names. I use currently 6.06 but have on machine with 7.10. From ed.lau at mail.ee Tue Nov 6 19:22:10 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:22:10 +0200 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <200711061844.26047.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200711061640.47309.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> <200711061844.26047.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <4730BEE2.6000403@mail.ee> >> sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player >> >> yet ? > > I tried that, but the helix player doesn't support streaming or even the 3gp > files from my mobile phone. But original Realplayer does - http://www.real.com/linux It has also Firefox plugins. From werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Nov 6 19:24:00 2007 From: werepenguin at blueyonder.co.uk (Rod Joyce) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:24:00 +0000 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <200711061844.26047.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> <200711061844.26047.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711061924.00922.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 18:44:25 Mark Fraser wrote: > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 16:50:08 Greg Booth wrote: > > On 11/6/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:41:38 Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > > > > hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser > > > > > it complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this > > > > > issue and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really > > > > > appreciate any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on > > > > > how to install the tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm > > > > > still new with this OS and I find it very interesting so far, i'm a > > > > > windows user transitioning to Linux. > > > > > > > > 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter "Adding > > > > the Repositories" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, > > > > mplayerplug-in should do the trick. Also you may during video > > > > playback make right mouse click on the video and gain access to > > > > mplayerplug-in settings. On right bottom corner you may see small > > > > button, which gives the opportunity to switch full screen mode. You > > > > may also try usual mplayer keyboard shortcuts. Also see the man > > > > mplayer page for further instructions and possibilities. > > > > > > I'd managed to get most of the plugins working apart from one - > > > RealPlayer - any tips on installing it? I just get a blank box when I > > > try to view the videos on the BBC's website. > > > > Tried > > > > sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player > > > > yet ? > > I tried that, but the helix player doesn't support streaming or even the > 3gp files from my mobile phone. Try Kaffeine - on first run you should get a wizard asking if you want it to be the default application for rtsp and Windows media streams. As long as you've installed the windows dll package from the Mplayer site (and IIRC Medibuntu) it should work fine. If you've already run Kaffeine, fear not, all you need to do is to remove ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc - the system will assume that you are running Kaffeine for the first time the next time you start it. I can't get RealPlayer to work at all on Kubuntu, although I've had no trouble running it with Fedora and openSUSE. I am fairly sure that Helix is purely open source; it won't run any proprietary formats at all, not even Real ones even though Real support its development. Rod From jferrando at netplc.com Tue Nov 6 20:24:11 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:24:11 +0100 Subject: Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS client Message-ID: <4730CD6B.4080501@netplc.com> I have a long standing issue regarding Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS. Here is my scenario: - I am the administrator of a network in a small development company 15 employees - We installed 4 years ago a linux server for file sharing (samba) to replace the ageing WNT server, that has gradually added new services: email (postfix), mysql and firebird databases, iptables firewall, dns server, dhcp server, etc - All of the developers use W2000 and WXP desktops, but I have a kubuntu 7.10 desktop in a powerfull dual core, 4GB RAM machine with VMWare workstation to run virtualized W2000 and other linux images. I configured CIFS to access the SAMBA shares in the kubuntu 7.10 server (the server is really a desktop), and I mount it at boot-up using an script that does: mount -t cifs //espada.netplc.com/datos /home/jferrando/espada -o credentials=/etc/smbc.jordi,iocharset=utf8 The CIFS filesystem works fine, but: Openoffice does not lock files properly. It worked decent in kubuntu 7.04, but after upgrading to 7.10 the situation that I have is that I can open r/w a file in the server, but when I create a new file and try to save it in the server (the file does not exist yet) I get an I/O error. After a hard and long struggle, I managed to have some decent locking capability by adding the options to my samba server: /etc/samba/smb.conf ... kernel oplocks = no ... [datos] comment = Directorio datos NETPLC/INTRANSYS path = /datos read only = No browseable = yes guest ok = no printable = no create mask = 0770 #Esta es una máscara - Quita los permisos de o+rwx, pero no añade #Permisos a user ni group force create mode = 0770 #Añade permisos a los ficheros creados directory mask = 2770 #Análogo a create mask pero para directorios force directory mode = 2770 #Añade permisos a los directorios creados security mask = 0000 # 0s = security bits that user is NOT allowed to change # 1s = security bits that user is allowed to change force security mode = 2770 # Bits that are always set ON when modifying the security of a file directory security mask = 0000 #Análogo a security mask para directorios force directory security mode = 2770 oplocks = yes share modes = yes locking = yes strict locking = no blocking locks = no Anyone of you in my situation? -- *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 http://www.netplc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdshaw89 at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 20:27:23 2007 From: mdshaw89 at gmail.com (Mike Shaw) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:27:23 -0500 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <200711061924.00922.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> <200711061844.26047.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <200711061924.00922.werepenguin@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: On 11/6/07, Rod Joyce wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 18:44:25 Mark Fraser wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 16:50:08 Greg Booth wrote: > > > On 11/6/07, Mark Fraser wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:41:38 Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > > > > > hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox > browser > > > > > > it complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on > this > > > > > > issue and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll > really > > > > > > appreciate any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on > > > > > > how to install the tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. > I'm > > > > > > still new with this OS and I find it very interesting so far, > i'm a > > > > > > windows user transitioning to Linux. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - > > > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter > "Adding > > > > > the Repositories" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, > > > > > mplayerplug-in should do the trick. Also you may during video > > > > > playback make right mouse click on the video and gain access to > > > > > mplayerplug-in settings. On right bottom corner you may see small > > > > > button, which gives the opportunity to switch full screen mode. > You > > > > > may also try usual mplayer keyboard shortcuts. Also see the man > > > > > mplayer page for further instructions and possibilities. > > > > > > > > I'd managed to get most of the plugins working apart from one - > > > > RealPlayer - any tips on installing it? I just get a blank box when > I > > > > try to view the videos on the BBC's website. > > > > > > Tried > > > > > > sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player > > > > > > yet ? > > > > I tried that, but the helix player doesn't support streaming or even the > > 3gp files from my mobile phone. > > Try Kaffeine - on first run you should get a wizard asking if you want it > to > be the default application for rtsp and Windows media streams. As long as > you've installed the windows dll package from the Mplayer site (and IIRC > Medibuntu) it should work fine. If you've already run Kaffeine, fear not, > all > you need to do is to remove ~/.kde/share/config/kaffeinerc - the system > will > assume that you are running Kaffeine for the first time the next time you > start it. > I can't get RealPlayer to work at all on Kubuntu, although I've had no > trouble > running it with Fedora and openSUSE. I am fairly sure that Helix is purely > open source; it won't run any proprietary formats at all, not even Real > ones > even though Real support its development. > > Rod > > I was finally able to get Realplayer working after I uninstalled mplayer and mplayer-plugin. I also needed to create the following links in my local mozilla plugins directory(~/.mozilla/plugins): lrwxrwxrwx 1 user user 35 2007-11-01 11:03 nphelix.so -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 user user 36 2007-11-01 11:04 nphelix.xpt -> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/nphelix.xpt After that I reinstalled mplayer and mplayer-plugin and everything worked fine. Good luck! Mike -- "Darn bushes yowling at me again." - Old Man Wickles in Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 6 22:20:36 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:20:36 -0500 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> References: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> Message-ID: <4730E8B4.3020009@sbcglobal.net> Edmund Laugasson wrote: >> hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and I find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to Linux. > > > 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter > "Adding the Repositories" > > E.g. in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy): > a) sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list > b) wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get > update > > > 2) Install codecs - see the chapter "Playing Non-Native Media Formats" > > E.g. in 32-bit systems: > sudo apt-get install w32codecs > > 3) Install mplayerplug-in for Firefox: > sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer > > It installs also appropriate version of mplayer as dependency if you don't have already mplayer. > Firefox, I guess, should be installed by default in Ubuntu. > > I suggest install also: > sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts mplayer-skins > > Also after each installation run: > sudo ldconfig && sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a && sudo apt-get clean > This makes mandatory configurations and cleanings instead of doing restart as probably in Windows > should do. > > 4) Then open Firefox and write to the address bar about:plugins and press Enter. Now you see the > codecs, which are supported by mplayer and its plugins > > Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, mplayerplug-in should do the > trick. Also you may during video playback make right mouse click on the video and gain access to > mplayerplug-in settings. On right bottom corner you may see small button, which gives the > opportunity to switch full screen mode. You may also try usual mplayer keyboard shortcuts. Also see > the man mplayer page for further instructions and possibilities. > > > Best Regards, > Edmund > Take a look at Automatix2 From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Tue Nov 6 22:33:07 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:33:07 +0000 Subject: iriver T60 music player - my experience Message-ID: <200711062233.07738.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Hi everybody. A couple of months ago I bought a portable music player, and I just wanted to let everybody who's interested know what I bought, who I bought it from, and how well it works with Linux in my meagre experience. The player is an iriver T60 4GB, bought from Advanced MP3 Players in the UK. This shop (I'm not in any way associated with them, just giving credit where it's due) gave me excellent service, including testing a couple of my Ogg Vorbis files on a T60 before I bought it. Goods are dispatched via City Link. The downsides of the player are that AFAICT it's only possible to do the firmware update using $soft, and it does no sorting of the order of the tracks before playing them. Therefore if you just use Konqueror to drag files onto the player, the track order of all the albums will be scrambled. The upsides are, it plays Ogg Vorbis files, produces decent quality sound, has a nice user interface for navigating to the tracks you want to play and uses a proper battery, with a user setting to tell it what you are using - alkaline or rechargeable. Also has a digital clock and a radio, but I find I don't bother with the radio. The clock is useful though, as I leave my watch in the locker at the gym. I can't do anything about the firmware update, but I have solved the track order problem by the use of rsync to load the tracks onto the player:- rsync -rvtW --delay-updates --modify-window=1 /MiscUsersFiles/Music/Dave/T60/ /media/T60/Music/ The --delay-updates option did the magic for me, causing, I think, all tracks to be physically transferred to the player in alphabetical order. The T60 players appear to play files in the chronological order in which they were transferred, so use of this rsync command gives it what it needs. I would guess that new artists and albums would appear out of order if transferred in later sessions, but the out of order tracks was the biggest PITA for me. USB transfer seems to hammer the battery, so it's best to use a freshly charged 1000mAh NiMH cell, then charge it again afterwards, I find. Ripping was done using grip, with the encoder set to oggenc and the encoder command-line parameter set to -a %a -b %b -d %y -G %g -N %t -l %d -o %m -t %n %w --quality=4 and the encode file format parameter set to /MiscUsersFiles/Music/Dave/T60/%!A/%!d/t%t%n.%x which makes each file name start with a t for track, followed by the track number and the track title. I did find that sometimes a track seemed to get skipped or only part played. Under the Advanced settings is something called Scan Speed which is set to 1x by default. Changing it to 4x seems to have fixed the problem, AFAICT, for me. I've not consulted the manual about this, just fiddled around with the settings menu. Conclusion - I'm happy with this player. The only improvement I would really like to see is a Linux firmware update facility. I'm still using Feisty, but plan to build a new system before long, which will get Gutsy. -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From kbl at nucleus.com Wed Nov 7 00:45:45 2007 From: kbl at nucleus.com (Ken Larkman) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:45:45 -0700 Subject: _: Entries in K-Menu: preceding entries in K Menu In-Reply-To: <47308C81.1040202@bmts.com> References: <200711060029.52039.kbl@nucleus.com> <47308C81.1040202@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711061745.45371.kbl@nucleus.com> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 08:47:13 Scott wrote: > Doing every item this way would take a while and would be very annoying. Naw. Took a couple of minutes, tops, and I had a lot of menu entries. Much simpler than reinstalling Kubuntu. The problem in my case and the original poster's (I believe) when Adept Manager says there is a Full Upgrade available after installing 7.10 (immediately after a clean install, in my case). Adept starts to upgrade then stops when it realizes you are up-to-date but not before it has changed the menu entries. There is probably a text or xml file that can be edited to do the same thing but I think its much faster to do it from Menu Editor. Reinstalling for such a minor issue is not a best practice. - Ken From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 08:35:46 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:35:46 +0200 Subject: Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS client In-Reply-To: <4730CD6B.4080501@netplc.com> References: <4730CD6B.4080501@netplc.com> Message-ID: <473178E2.9090608@gmail.com> For a very long time I have had the "opposite" issue- not being able to open files on a Win2003 server using OpenOffice without more tinkering than I can remember. The solution finally presented itself with Kubuntu 7.10, a newer version of smb4k that sorted all my problems. So in other words - did you try smb4K? Sinclair Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > I have a long standing issue regarding Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS. > > Here is my scenario: > > - I am the administrator of a network in a small development company 15 > employees > - We installed 4 years ago a linux server for file sharing (samba) to > replace the ageing WNT server, that has gradually added new services: > email (postfix), mysql and firebird databases, iptables firewall, dns > server, dhcp server, etc > - All of the developers use W2000 and WXP desktops, but I have a kubuntu > 7.10 desktop in a powerfull dual core, 4GB RAM machine with VMWare > workstation to run virtualized W2000 and other linux images. > > I configured CIFS to access the SAMBA shares in the kubuntu 7.10 server > (the server is really a desktop), and I mount it at boot-up using an > script that does: > > mount -t cifs //espada.netplc.com/datos /home/jferrando/espada -o > credentials=/etc/smbc.jordi,iocharset=utf8 > > The CIFS filesystem works fine, but: Openoffice does not lock files > properly. It worked decent in kubuntu 7.04, but after upgrading to 7.10 > the situation that I have is that I can open r/w a file in the server, > but when I create a new file and try to save it in the server (the file > does not exist yet) I get an I/O error. > > After a hard and long struggle, I managed to have some decent locking > capability by adding the options to my samba server: > > /etc/samba/smb.conf > ... > kernel oplocks = no > ... > [datos] > comment = Directorio datos NETPLC/INTRANSYS > path = /datos > read only = No > browseable = yes > guest ok = no > printable = no > > create mask = 0770 #Esta es una máscara - Quita los > permisos de o+rwx, pero no añade > #Permisos a user ni group > force create mode = 0770 #Añade permisos a los ficheros > creados > > directory mask = 2770 #Análogo a create mask pero para > directorios > force directory mode = 2770 #Añade permisos a los > directorios creados > > security mask = 0000 # 0s = security bits that user > is NOT allowed to change > # 1s = security bits that user > is allowed to change > force security mode = 2770 # Bits that are always set ON > when modifying the security of a file > > directory security mask = 0000 #Análogo a security mask para > directorios > force directory security mode = 2770 > > oplocks = yes > share modes = yes > locking = yes > strict locking = no > blocking locks = no > > Anyone of you in my situation? > > -- > *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* > *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* > > Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN > 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España > Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 > http://www.netplc.com > From jferrando at netplc.com Wed Nov 7 08:54:18 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:54:18 +0100 Subject: Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS client In-Reply-To: <473178E2.9090608@gmail.com> References: <4730CD6B.4080501@netplc.com> <473178E2.9090608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47317D3A.5060202@netplc.com> I tried smb4k in the past, but I had the problem of the client not being able to interpret properly the files with international characters (áèñç...) O. Sinclair wrote: > For a very long time I have had the "opposite" issue- not being able to > open files on a Win2003 server using OpenOffice without more tinkering > than I can remember. > > The solution finally presented itself with Kubuntu 7.10, a newer version > of smb4k that sorted all my problems. So in other words - did you try smb4K? > > Sinclair > > Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > >> I have a long standing issue regarding Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS. >> >> Here is my scenario: >> >> - I am the administrator of a network in a small development company 15 >> employees >> - We installed 4 years ago a linux server for file sharing (samba) to >> replace the ageing WNT server, that has gradually added new services: >> email (postfix), mysql and firebird databases, iptables firewall, dns >> server, dhcp server, etc >> - All of the developers use W2000 and WXP desktops, but I have a kubuntu >> 7.10 desktop in a powerfull dual core, 4GB RAM machine with VMWare >> workstation to run virtualized W2000 and other linux images. >> >> I configured CIFS to access the SAMBA shares in the kubuntu 7.10 server >> (the server is really a desktop), and I mount it at boot-up using an >> script that does: >> >> mount -t cifs //espada.netplc.com/datos /home/jferrando/espada -o >> credentials=/etc/smbc.jordi,iocharset=utf8 >> >> The CIFS filesystem works fine, but: Openoffice does not lock files >> properly. It worked decent in kubuntu 7.04, but after upgrading to 7.10 >> the situation that I have is that I can open r/w a file in the server, >> but when I create a new file and try to save it in the server (the file >> does not exist yet) I get an I/O error. >> >> After a hard and long struggle, I managed to have some decent locking >> capability by adding the options to my samba server: >> >> /etc/samba/smb.conf >> ... >> kernel oplocks = no >> ... >> [datos] >> comment = Directorio datos NETPLC/INTRANSYS >> path = /datos >> read only = No >> browseable = yes >> guest ok = no >> printable = no >> >> create mask = 0770 #Esta es una máscara - Quita los >> permisos de o+rwx, pero no añade >> #Permisos a user ni group >> force create mode = 0770 #Añade permisos a los ficheros >> creados >> >> directory mask = 2770 #Análogo a create mask pero para >> directorios >> force directory mode = 2770 #Añade permisos a los >> directorios creados >> >> security mask = 0000 # 0s = security bits that user >> is NOT allowed to change >> # 1s = security bits that user >> is allowed to change >> force security mode = 2770 # Bits that are always set ON >> when modifying the security of a file >> >> directory security mask = 0000 #Análogo a security mask para >> directorios >> force directory security mode = 2770 >> >> oplocks = yes >> share modes = yes >> locking = yes >> strict locking = no >> blocking locks = no >> >> Anyone of you in my situation? >> >> -- >> *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* >> *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* >> >> Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN >> 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España >> Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 >> http://www.netplc.com >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sinclair wrote: >> For a very long time I have had the "opposite" issue- not being able to >> open files on a Win2003 server using OpenOffice without more tinkering >> than I can remember. >> >> The solution finally presented itself with Kubuntu 7.10, a newer version >> of smb4k that sorted all my problems. So in other words - did you try smb4K? >> >> Sinclair >> >> Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: >> >>> I have a long standing issue regarding Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS. >>> >>> Here is my scenario: >>> >>> - I am the administrator of a network in a small development company 15 >>> employees >>> - We installed 4 years ago a linux server for file sharing (samba) to >>> replace the ageing WNT server, that has gradually added new services: >>> email (postfix), mysql and firebird databases, iptables firewall, dns >>> server, dhcp server, etc >>> - All of the developers use W2000 and WXP desktops, but I have a kubuntu >>> 7.10 desktop in a powerfull dual core, 4GB RAM machine with VMWare >>> workstation to run virtualized W2000 and other linux images. >>> >>> I configured CIFS to access the SAMBA shares in the kubuntu 7.10 server >>> (the server is really a desktop), and I mount it at boot-up using an >>> script that does: >>> >>> mount -t cifs //espada.netplc.com/datos /home/jferrando/espada -o >>> credentials=/etc/smbc.jordi,iocharset=utf8 >>> >>> The CIFS filesystem works fine, but: Openoffice does not lock files >>> properly. It worked decent in kubuntu 7.04, but after upgrading to 7.10 >>> the situation that I have is that I can open r/w a file in the server, >>> but when I create a new file and try to save it in the server (the file >>> does not exist yet) I get an I/O error. >>> >>> After a hard and long struggle, I managed to have some decent locking >>> capability by adding the options to my samba server: >>> >>> /etc/samba/smb.conf >>> ... >>> kernel oplocks = no >>> ... >>> [datos] >>> comment = Directorio datos NETPLC/INTRANSYS >>> path = /datos >>> read only = No >>> browseable = yes >>> guest ok = no >>> printable = no >>> >>> create mask = 0770 #Esta es una máscara - Quita los >>> permisos de o+rwx, pero no añade >>> #Permisos a user ni group >>> force create mode = 0770 #Añade permisos a los ficheros >>> creados >>> >>> directory mask = 2770 #Análogo a create mask pero para >>> directorios >>> force directory mode = 2770 #Añade permisos a los >>> directorios creados >>> >>> security mask = 0000 # 0s = security bits that user >>> is NOT allowed to change >>> # 1s = security bits that user >>> is allowed to change >>> force security mode = 2770 # Bits that are always set ON >>> when modifying the security of a file >>> >>> directory security mask = 0000 #Análogo a security mask para >>> directorios >>> force directory security mode = 2770 >>> >>> oplocks = yes >>> share modes = yes >>> locking = yes >>> strict locking = no >>> blocking locks = no >>> >>> Anyone of you in my situation? >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 11:31:43 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:31:43 +0200 Subject: Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS client In-Reply-To: <47318232.5050106@netplc.com> References: <4730CD6B.4080501@netplc.com> <473178E2.9090608@gmail.com> <47317D3A.5060202@netplc.com> <47318232.5050106@netplc.com> Message-ID: <4731A21F.9060908@gmail.com> Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > It worked, I configured SMBFS with the settings: > > Linux character set: utf-8 > server character set: cp850 > > And now I can see all the accents! > > Thanks Sinclair! Different problems, same solution! That is when life can be good! Sinclair > > Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: >> I tried smb4k in the past, but I had the problem of the client not >> being able to interpret properly the files with international >> characters (áèñç...) >> >> O. Sinclair wrote: >>> For a very long time I have had the "opposite" issue- not being able to >>> open files on a Win2003 server using OpenOffice without more tinkering >>> than I can remember. >>> >>> The solution finally presented itself with Kubuntu 7.10, a newer version >>> of smb4k that sorted all my problems. So in other words - did you try smb4K? >>> >>> Sinclair >>> >>> Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: >>> >>>> I have a long standing issue regarding Openoffice, SAMBA and CIFS. >>>> >>>> Here is my scenario: >>>> >>>> - I am the administrator of a network in a small development company 15 >>>> employees >>>> - We installed 4 years ago a linux server for file sharing (samba) to >>>> replace the ageing WNT server, that has gradually added new services: >>>> email (postfix), mysql and firebird databases, iptables firewall, dns >>>> server, dhcp server, etc >>>> - All of the developers use W2000 and WXP desktops, but I have a kubuntu >>>> 7.10 desktop in a powerfull dual core, 4GB RAM machine with VMWare >>>> workstation to run virtualized W2000 and other linux images. >>>> >>>> I configured CIFS to access the SAMBA shares in the kubuntu 7.10 server >>>> (the server is really a desktop), and I mount it at boot-up using an >>>> script that does: >>>> >>>> mount -t cifs //espada.netplc.com/datos /home/jferrando/espada -o >>>> credentials=/etc/smbc.jordi,iocharset=utf8 >>>> >>>> The CIFS filesystem works fine, but: Openoffice does not lock files >>>> properly. It worked decent in kubuntu 7.04, but after upgrading to 7.10 >>>> the situation that I have is that I can open r/w a file in the server, >>>> but when I create a new file and try to save it in the server (the file >>>> does not exist yet) I get an I/O error. >>>> >>>> After a hard and long struggle, I managed to have some decent locking >>>> capability by adding the options to my samba server: >>>> >>>> /etc/samba/smb.conf >>>> ... >>>> kernel oplocks = no >>>> ... >>>> [datos] >>>> comment = Directorio datos NETPLC/INTRANSYS >>>> path = /datos >>>> read only = No >>>> browseable = yes >>>> guest ok = no >>>> printable = no >>>> >>>> create mask = 0770 #Esta es una máscara - Quita los >>>> permisos de o+rwx, pero no añade >>>> #Permisos a user ni group >>>> force create mode = 0770 #Añade permisos a los ficheros >>>> creados >>>> >>>> directory mask = 2770 #Análogo a create mask pero para >>>> directorios >>>> force directory mode = 2770 #Añade permisos a los >>>> directorios creados >>>> >>>> security mask = 0000 # 0s = security bits that user >>>> is NOT allowed to change >>>> # 1s = security bits that user >>>> is allowed to change >>>> force security mode = 2770 # Bits that are always set ON >>>> when modifying the security of a file >>>> >>>> directory security mask = 0000 #Análogo a security mask para >>>> directorios >>>> force directory security mode = 2770 >>>> >>>> oplocks = yes >>>> share modes = yes >>>> locking = yes >>>> strict locking = no >>>> blocking locks = no >>>> >>>> Anyone of you in my situation? >>>> > From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Nov 7 12:17:22 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 07:17:22 -0500 Subject: PDF links Message-ID: <200711070717.23334.d.mcglone@att.net> Does kpdf allow you to click on links in a pdf? I received a pdf doc from somebody and I need to click on the link in the pdf to complete a registeration, but kpdf doesn't realize it's a link. -- David M. Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been. -- Mark Twain From th1bill at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 6 18:32:16 2007 From: th1bill at sbcglobal.net (Bill Taylor) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:32:16 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Subject: Newby Message-ID: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> I have installed Kubuntu 7.10 and I'm lost. I tried to install Firefox and got to a tree? And did not know what to do. I have purchased a copy of Linux for Dummies, that's me, but it is in the mail. I'm handicapped, so do my business online. Thank you in advance. Willis D. Taylor, Sr. KILLER SPADE 806 CE 1968 1969 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Keep trying, it's all strange at first, but very cool in a short while. \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 12:38:57 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:38:57 +0200 Subject: PDF links In-Reply-To: <200711070717.23334.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711070717.23334.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711071438.57458.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Does kpdf allow you to click on links in a pdf? I received a pdf doc from > somebody and I need to click on the link in the pdf to complete a > registeration, but kpdf doesn't realize it's a link. Yes it does, but it has to be setup in the PDF to make links active. Try the settings for KPDF, but it may just be the actual PDF. Then there are version issues with PDF files. .. /d From ed.lau at mail.ee Wed Nov 7 13:00:58 2007 From: ed.lau at mail.ee (Edmund Laugasson) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:00:58 +0200 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <4730E8B4.3020009@sbcglobal.net> References: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> <4730E8B4.3020009@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4731B70A.1090407@mail.ee> > Take a look at Automatix2 I would not suggest it. It screwed up my systems in several times. Since Ubuntu 7.04 there is special instructions getting things work - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats I would suggest EasyUbuntu (http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/) but it does not have Ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 support but it may work. This does not change your system - only downloads appropriate packages. I suggest at first test this Automatix2 under some virtual machine environment: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server - it's free also for Linux Some instructions: Ubuntu 7.10 - http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2007/10/25/how-to-install-vmware-server-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/ Ubuntu 7.04 - http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto Ubuntu 6.06 - http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server Currently I just tested: # sudo apt-get update # sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` xinetd # sudo ./vmware-install.pl <-- this should be run from unpacked VM Ware archive folder I just pressed enter all the time and just entered different place for default location of virtual machines (usually I have /home at separate partition, which has more space). I installed VM Ware Server 1.0.4 build 56528 which is current version (http://www.vmware.com/download/server/). I did not needed any patching and installation went very smoothly. There is also VirtualBox - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox - some people say, that it's faster than VM Ware. You can give a try ;-) Or just choose some another virtualization system - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines Best Regards, Edmund From slewin at bmts.com Wed Nov 7 13:21:08 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:21:08 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> Donn wrote: > Hi Bill, welcome! > I'm still on an older version of Kubuntu, but I'm pretty sure Firefox comes > pre-installed as standard, so simply fish around in the K menu under > Internet. Firefox is not the standard on Kubuntu, only Ubuntu. Konqueror is the standard web browser for Kubuntu. To install firefox you need to first open Adept by going to Systems on the menu and then to Adept Manager, which should be at the top. After starting Adept click on "Fetch Updates" on the upper left corner of the screen. Then, you can just put Firefox in the search box and wait a few seconds as adept looks for firefox. When you see firefox just click on it then click on "Request Install". After that is done press "Apply changes" on the top bar and Firefox will be downloaded and installed for you. You will probably see several files with the name Firefox, just select the one that only says firefox. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From slewin at bmts.com Wed Nov 7 13:24:26 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:24:26 -0500 Subject: PDF links In-Reply-To: <200711071438.57458.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711070717.23334.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711071438.57458.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4731BC8A.70304@bmts.com> Donn wrote: >> Does kpdf allow you to click on links in a pdf? I use a great Firefox plugin called PDF Download and with it you can choose what to do with any PDFs in Firefox. What happens is when you click on a PDF a menu pops up with a few choices with open one of them. You can easily configure PDF Download to use KPDF to open the files. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 13:34:22 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:34:22 +0200 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Firefox is not the standard on Kubuntu, only Ubuntu. Konqueror is the > standard web browser for Kubuntu. Oops. Sorry to steer the OP wrong. I've been on Dapper for ages and I forget all the stuff it came/didn't come with. \d From slewin at bmts.com Wed Nov 7 13:35:24 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:35:24 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> Donn wrote: >> Firefox is not the standard on Kubuntu, only Ubuntu. Konqueror is the >> standard web browser for Kubuntu. > Oops. Sorry to steer the OP wrong. I've been on Dapper for ages and I forget > all the stuff it came/didn't come with. I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) It is nice that a couple years ago I was a newby and now I get to help others :) -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From magick.crow at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 15:33:56 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:33:56 +0100 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> Message-ID: As a new person you might like to look into installing all the extra stuff for reading all types of media and also java. I would help more but I am a bad ubuntu user and just use automatix to do it for me. BTW still yet to have a problem with this. The upgrade to gutsy went well. So, I will leave it up to others to help you will all that. Douglas On Nov 7, 2007 2:35 PM, Scott wrote: > Donn wrote: > >> Firefox is not the standard on Kubuntu, only Ubuntu. Konqueror is the > >> standard web browser for Kubuntu. > > Oops. Sorry to steer the OP wrong. I've been on Dapper for ages and I > forget > > all the stuff it came/didn't come with. > I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) It is nice > that a couple years ago I was a newby and now I get to help others :) > > -- > Your friend, > Scott > > Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From bootgr at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 16:02:35 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:02:35 -0600 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711070802h6dd319baxe4b0556e71976eb4@mail.gmail.com> Also a very handy reference with easy to use walk through guides is here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy Greg From bootgr at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 16:06:43 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:06:43 -0600 Subject: where to put xhosts commands In-Reply-To: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> References: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <720b310e0711070806l57c62a76s67a085cb90a4d582@mail.gmail.com> On 11/7/07, Paul Lemmons wrote: > I need to allow several machines to use the x server on my machine. I > have altered kdm.conf and now if I run "xhost +" I can run x > applications from another server. I would like to be a little more > granular that "xhost +" and I don't want to have to type in the commands > every time. On my Fedora box I set up a script in xinit.d. No such > directory exists on Kubuntu. Where would one put a series of xhost > commands so that I can set it up once for all users and forget it? Is > there a better way than xhost? > Could you modify the xinetd script in /etc/init.d/ ?? Greg From lists at ptfd.org Wed Nov 7 16:08:16 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:08:16 -0500 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <4731B70A.1090407@mail.ee> References: <4730E8B4.3020009@sbcglobal.net> <4731B70A.1090407@mail.ee> Message-ID: <200711071108.17007.lists@ptfd.org> On Wednesday 07 November 2007 08:00:58 am Edmund Laugasson wrote: > > Take a look at Automatix2 > > I would not suggest it. It screwed up my systems in several times. Since > Ubuntu 7.04 there is special instructions getting things work - > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats > > I would suggest EasyUbuntu (http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/) but it does > not have Ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10 support but it may work. This does not change > your system - only downloads appropriate packages. > > I suggest at first test this Automatix2 under some virtual machine > environment: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server - it's free > also for Linux > > Some instructions: > Ubuntu 7.10 - > http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2007/10/25/how-to-install-vmware-ser >ver-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/ > > Ubuntu 7.04 - > http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto > > Ubuntu 6.06 - http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server > > > Currently I just tested: > # sudo apt-get update > # sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` xinetd > # sudo ./vmware-install.pl <-- this should be run from unpacked VM Ware > archive folder > > I just pressed enter all the time and just entered different place for > default location of virtual machines (usually I have /home at separate > partition, which has more space). I installed VM Ware Server 1.0.4 build > 56528 which is current version (http://www.vmware.com/download/server/). I > did not needed any patching and installation went very smoothly. > > There is also VirtualBox - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox - > some people say, that it's faster than VM Ware. You can give a try ;-) > > Or just choose some another virtualization system - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines > I have vmware-player installed, and currently use virtualbox. I do like it better, but you do have to fix some minor (usbfs) issues in gutsy default settings. Go to this site http://virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads and scroll down to where is gives you the repos you want it gives good instructions for installing the correct files. Mike From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Wed Nov 7 16:18:34 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:18:34 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch any web video offerings with Mozilla 2.0.0.8 Message-ID: <4731E55A.3090104@bluewin.ch> Running Kubuntu 7.04 on an i586 box with 512 MB RAM. No plans to upgrade to 7.10 for the time being. Have Mozilla 2.0.0.8 with flash_player_9_linux from Adobe site installed. Whenever I try to open a video clip anywhere, I get the following message: "The video timed out attempting to play. Please ensure that you do not have any Flash Blocking plugins active." Where/How can I find out what Flash Blocking might be active and correct the situation? Any help will be thankfully appreciated jdh _________________ kubuntu 7.04 on i586 w/ 512 MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 7 16:21:13 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:21:13 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> Message-ID: <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> Scott wrote: > Donn wrote: >>> Firefox is not the standard on Kubuntu, only Ubuntu. Konqueror is the >>> standard web browser for Kubuntu. >> Oops. Sorry to steer the OP wrong. I've been on Dapper for ages and I >> forget all the stuff it came/didn't come with. > I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) Should Not! :-) (Can you tell I don't like Firefox?) -- derek From paul at lemmons.name Wed Nov 7 17:25:42 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:25:42 -0700 Subject: where to put xhosts commands In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711070806l57c62a76s67a085cb90a4d582@mail.gmail.com> References: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> <720b310e0711070806l57c62a76s67a085cb90a4d582@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4731F516.5070104@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:where to put xhosts commands From: "Greg Booth" To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Date: 11/07/2007 09:06 AM > On 11/7/07, Paul Lemmons wrote: > >> I need to allow several machines to use the x server on my machine. I >> have altered kdm.conf and now if I run "xhost +" I can run x >> applications from another server. I would like to be a little more >> granular that "xhost +" and I don't want to have to type in the commands >> every time. On my Fedora box I set up a script in xinit.d. No such >> directory exists on Kubuntu. Where would one put a series of xhost >> commands so that I can set it up once for all users and forget it? Is >> there a better way than xhost? >> >> > > Could you modify the xinetd script in /etc/init.d/ ?? > > Greg > > I think there may be confusion on this suggestion. The program xinetd has nothing to do with "X". It has to do with managing network servers such as telnet and the like. I am, however, loathe to change the scripts in init.d. I have done this in the past and am even good at it. The problem is that some time later some maintenance comes along and wipes out my updates. So, while I *can* update system level scripts, I try to avoid it. Any other options? -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. From paulvarjak at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 17:51:39 2007 From: paulvarjak at gmail.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:51:39 +0100 Subject: where to put xhosts commands In-Reply-To: <4731F516.5070104@lemmons.name> References: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> <720b310e0711070806l57c62a76s67a085cb90a4d582@mail.gmail.com> <4731F516.5070104@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <5e33e3860711070951n239094ccy6be90d745f1306db@mail.gmail.com> just open a console and type xhosts + let it open and redirect the DISPLAY env variable of the other computers to the one you want the new windows to appear. If this doesn't work try with sudo xhosts + but I think it's not needed Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 7 18:21:28 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:21:28 -0500 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 Message-ID: <47320228.8030600@sbcglobal.net> Where is a good howto to install Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu-7.10 ?? From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Wed Nov 7 18:21:26 2007 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:21:26 +0100 Subject: where to put xhosts commands In-Reply-To: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> References: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <47320226.5000205@michaelzoet.de> Paul Lemmons schrieb: > I need to allow several machines to use the x server on my machine. I > have altered kdm.conf and now if I run "xhost +" I can run x > applications from another server. I would like to be a little more > granular that "xhost +" and I don't want to have to type in the commands > every time. On my Fedora box I set up a script in xinit.d. No such > directory exists on Kubuntu. Where would one put a series of xhost > commands so that I can set it up once for all users and forget it? Is > there a better way than xhost? > > What you want to do is setup an .xsession file in your home directory. That is not easy and you should learn how to do this! If you do things wrong your X11 (and KDE) will not start! Since I use Kubuntu I did not feel the needs of maintaning my own .xsession, so I can not provide you with an example. As far as I can remember something like this in an .xsession file could work: ==== .xsession start ===== xterm & # to have a rescue shell available xhost + ... # put all your machines in here startkde # fire up KDE ==== .xsession end ====== Please read: man xsession man xinit man startx And every good HowTo on the subject in setting up an .xsession file in your home directory ;-). Hope this helps. From lucafbb at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 19:12:23 2007 From: lucafbb at gmail.com (Luca) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:12:23 +0100 Subject: Font size in my Dell Precision Message-ID: <27308d500711071112nc3b640wa9c3b044b64fe6e7@mail.gmail.com> Hi all I've just installed from scratch Kubuntu 7.10 on my Dell Precision M65. After the first restart os the system the "Restricted Driver" manager asked me if I wanna install NVIDIA accelerated drivers. If I enabled this, all my system font size became bigger. If I play with the system font size in the "System Setting" I can correct some font dimensions, but not all. In some, many places, I continue to see bigger font (in Kopete, in the tarsk bar clock, in many site using Firefox). Anyone experienced this problem? From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Wed Nov 7 19:21:56 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 13:21:56 -0600 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <47320228.8030600@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> > Where is a good howto to install Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu-7.10 ?? Try: http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2007/10/25/how-to-install-vmware- server-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/ From lists at ptfd.org Wed Nov 7 20:24:30 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:24:30 -0500 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> On Wednesday 07 November 2007 02:21:56 pm Tipton, Timothy wrote: > > Where is a good howto to install Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu-7.10 ?? > > Try: > http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2007/10/25/how-to-install-vmware- > server-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/ Dont want to stir up trouble but I have switched to virtualbox and am generally happier with it, it also contains the ability to create the virt machiune unlike vmware-player. Saves a little aggrivation.. I find it smoother and more stable. I haven't found a couple of features I want yet, but they are probably there for the hunting. Mike From bootgr at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 20:43:26 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:43:26 -0600 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> On 11/7/07, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > On Wednesday 07 November 2007 02:21:56 pm Tipton, Timothy wrote: > > > Where is a good howto to install Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu-7.10 ?? > > > > Try: > > http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2007/10/25/how-to-install-vmware- > > server-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/ > > Dont want to stir up trouble but I have switched to virtualbox and am > generally happier with it, it also contains the ability to create the virt > machiune unlike vmware-player. Saves a little aggrivation.. > I find it smoother and more stable. I haven't found a couple of features I > want yet, but they are probably there for the hunting. > > Mike I have to agree, I like VirtualBox better, but the free ( as in beer ) VMWare Server will also allow you to create the virtual machine and play it, but it does NOT allow you to use the shared folders with the host that I REALLY like. VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from source it's 100% open source. Greg From ronw at paradise.net.nz Wed Nov 7 21:07:38 2007 From: ronw at paradise.net.nz (ronw at paradise.net.nz) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:07:38 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1194469658.4732291a0aad8@www.paradise.net.nz> I tried VirtualBox and could not find how to go to full screen. Is tehre a way to do that? I hated trying to run WINXP in a small window Quoting Greg Booth : > On 11/7/07, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 November 2007 02:21:56 pm Tipton, Timothy wrote: > > > > Where is a good howto to install Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu-7.10 ?? > > > > > > Try: > > > > http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2007/10/25/how-to-install-vmware- > > > server-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon/ > > > > Dont want to stir up trouble but I have switched to virtualbox and am > > generally happier with it, it also contains the ability to create the > virt > > machiune unlike vmware-player. Saves a little aggrivation.. > > I find it smoother and more stable. I haven't found a couple of > features I > > want yet, but they are probably there for the hunting. > > > > Mike > > I have to agree, I like VirtualBox better, but the free ( as in beer ) > VMWare Server will also allow you to create the virtual machine and > play it, but it does NOT allow you to use the shared folders with the > host that I REALLY like. > > VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from > source it's 100% open source. > > Greg > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > - Ron Wilson From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 21:19:19 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 23:19:19 +0200 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1194469658.4732291a0aad8@www.paradise.net.nz> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> <1194469658.4732291a0aad8@www.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <200711072319.19506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I tried VirtualBox and could not find how to go to full screen. Is tehre a > way to do that? I hated trying to run WINXP in a small window > When all else fails, lean closer to the screen :D \d From bootgr at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 21:58:28 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:58:28 -0600 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711072319.19506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> <1194469658.4732291a0aad8@www.paradise.net.nz> <200711072319.19506.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711071358l2cc4392evb5d17e96cd64d27a@mail.gmail.com> On 11/7/07, Donn wrote: > > I tried VirtualBox and could not find how to go to full screen. Is tehre a > > way to do that? I hated trying to run WINXP in a small window > > > When all else fails, lean closer to the screen :D > > > \d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > It's (their special key)-F By default the "special" key is the RIGHT CTRL key. Greg From slewin at bmts.com Wed Nov 7 23:28:18 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:28:18 -0500 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47324A12.8000402@bmts.com> Greg Booth wrote: > VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from > source it's 100% open source. If you install the provided packages from adept/synaptic you also get the open source version. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From ted.frater at virgin.net Wed Nov 7 23:00:33 2007 From: ted.frater at virgin.net (Ted Frater) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:00:33 +0000 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> Derek Broughton wrote: >Scott wrote: > > > >>Donn wrote: >> >> >>>>Firefox is not the standard on Kubuntu, only Ubuntu. Konqueror is the >>>>standard web browser for Kubuntu. >>>> >>>> >>>Oops. Sorry to steer the OP wrong. I've been on Dapper for ages and I >>>forget all the stuff it came/didn't come with. >>> >>> >>I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) >> >> > >Should Not! :-) (Can you tell I don't like Firefox?) > > Ok I can accept that buy why? And what do you like? as a browser? Just interested. I currently use opera 9 Its somewhat faster than firfox on this eldrly Thinkpad. Also its simpler to use.. Tho not as simple as Netscape 3, From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 00:09:37 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:09:37 -0600 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <47324A12.8000402@bmts.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> <47324A12.8000402@bmts.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711071609v7e8a6afdg836a60499bcce439@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 7, 2007 5:28 PM, Scott wrote: > If you install the provided packages from adept/synaptic you also get > the open source version. > > -- > Your friend, > Scott Are you sure ? I was prompted for a terms of use on the version in the repo. I don't expect that to happen on a truly open source project. Greg From claydoh at midmaine.com Thu Nov 8 00:15:50 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 19:15:50 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> Message-ID: <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Wednesday 07 November 2007 6:00:33 pm Ted Frater wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >Scott wrote: > >>Donn wrote: > >>>>Firefox is not the standard on Kubuntu, only Ubuntu. Konqueror is the > >>>>standard web browser for Kubuntu. > >>> > >>>Oops. Sorry to steer the OP wrong. I've been on Dapper for ages and I > >>>forget all the stuff it came/didn't come with. > >> > >>I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) > > > >Should Not! :-) (Can you tell I don't like Firefox?) > > Ok I can accept that > buy why? > And what do you like? as a browser? > Just interested. > I currently use opera 9 > Its somewhat faster than firfox on this eldrly Thinkpad. > Also its simpler to use.. > Tho not as simple as Netscape 3, Kubuntu is a KDE-specific distro, and they use only KDE/QT applications, while Firefox is GTK- based. This is basically a design decision that is (thankfully) easily changed by the user. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Nov 8 00:43:55 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:43:55 +0000 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 Message-ID: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Scott > Greg Booth wrote: > > VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from > > source it's 100% open source. > If you install the provided packages from adept/synaptic you also get > the open source version. > True. but isn't it also true that Kubuntu will not supply packages of new versions for 7.10; you'll have to wait until 8.04 for any upgrades between now and next April. If you compile from VB's source, you can stay current. Paul From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 01:26:27 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:26:27 -0500 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711071609v7e8a6afdg836a60499bcce439@mail.gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> <47324A12.8000402@bmts.com> <720b310e0711071609v7e8a6afdg836a60499bcce439@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473265C3.5020306@bmts.com> Greg Booth wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 5:28 PM, Scott wrote: >> If you install the provided packages from adept/synaptic you also get >> the open source version. > > Are you sure ? I was prompted for a terms of use on the version in the > repo. I don't expect that to happen on a truly open source project. Wow! Then the Ubuntu team can get in big trouble and should change the name of the package from vitrualbox-ose as one would assume ose stands for "open source edition". Also, and more severe would be the fact that they have "This packages contains the Open Source Edition of VirtualBox." in the description. They really should not tag a proprietary product as open source. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 01:30:36 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:30:36 -0500 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <473266BC.3070002@bmts.com> pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Scott >> Greg Booth wrote: >>> VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from >>> source it's 100% open source. >> If you install the provided packages from adept/synaptic you also get >> the open source version. >> > True. but isn't it also true that Kubuntu will not supply packages of new versions for 7.10; you'll have to wait until 8.04 for any upgrades between now and next April. If you compile from VB's source, you can stay current. > Paul True, it is not a fully supported app and the version in the repo is already outdated, but you can also say the same for any package not in the backports :). Personally, I went and installed the newest non-open source version from the web site. They provided a very nice Deb package. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From johndecarlo at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 01:35:18 2007 From: johndecarlo at gmail.com (John DeCarlo) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:35:18 -0500 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <473266BC.3070002@bmts.com> References: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <473266BC.3070002@bmts.com> Message-ID: <3dde113c0711071735x22c90feel9a1f27beabd9b81a@mail.gmail.com> I think it is instructive that the VirtualBox site itself supports Debian packages and labels it accordingly: deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free -- John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at midmaine.com Thu Nov 8 01:55:09 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:55:09 -0500 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <473265C3.5020306@bmts.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <720b310e0711071609v7e8a6afdg836a60499bcce439@mail.gmail.com> <473265C3.5020306@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711072055.09889.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Wednesday 07 November 2007 8:26:27 pm Scott wrote: > Greg Booth wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2007 5:28 PM, Scott wrote: > >> If you install the provided packages from adept/synaptic you also get > >> the open source version. > > > > Are you sure ? I was prompted for a terms of use on the version in the > > repo. I don't expect that to happen on a truly open source project. > > Wow! Then the Ubuntu team can get in big trouble and should change the > name of the package from vitrualbox-ose as one would assume ose stands > for "open source edition". Also, and more severe would be the fact that > they have "This packages contains the Open Source Edition of > VirtualBox." in the description. They really should not tag a > proprietary product as open source. > http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Licensing_FAQ I don't remember the EULA when I first installed/ran virtualbox, but I would think the dual-licensing might be the reason for having one. It is still open sourced -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 06:15:02 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:15:02 +0200 Subject: Backports Dapper Message-ID: <200711080815.02737.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, I just tripped over a ref to 'backports' in another post and I thought I'd ask about it. I'm still on Dapper and it's getting crufty. I don't have time right now to fight with a new installation (and all the backing up ...) but I would rather like to have GTK+ > 2.10 and all it's little pals. Is there some magical way to do this on Dapper via apt? I have tried compiling it all but I only get part-way before running into problems that I'm not savvy enough to figure out. \d -- He has every attribute of a dog except loyalty. -- Thomas P. Gore From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Nov 8 06:26:12 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:26:12 +0200 Subject: Adding boot options? Message-ID: <4732AC04.8070203@rmk.co.il> I have a relatively old computer with Feisty installed. At the initial boot screen it prints a message on the screen informing me that it is a pre-2000 bios and I need to add 'apci=force' to the boot menu (the computer doesn't shutdown completely - I have to hold the power button for several seconds for it to power off and then unplug it as it will sometimes power back on again after 30 secs. or so). Q. How do I add the 'apci=force' to the boot menu? TIA Blessings, Nigel P.S. Dapper had no similar problems when it was installed. -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From paul at lemmons.name Thu Nov 8 06:35:28 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:35:28 -0700 Subject: where to put xhosts commands In-Reply-To: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> References: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4732AE30.400@lemmons.name> Paul Lemmons wrote: > I need to allow several machines to use the x server on my machine. I > have altered kdm.conf and now if I run "xhost +" I can run x > applications from another server. I would like to be a little more > granular that "xhost +" and I don't want to have to type in the commands > every time. On my Fedora box I set up a script in xinit.d. No such > directory exists on Kubuntu. Where would one put a series of xhost > commands so that I can set it up once for all users and forget it? Is > there a better way than xhost? > What I wound up doing: Created a script: xhost.sh #!/bin/bash xhost +host1 xhost +host2 ... ... I marked it as executable: chmod +x xhost.sh I copied it to ~/.kde/Autostart Now when I login it automatically runs and I can run X applications hosted on other computers. From Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de Thu Nov 8 07:43:50 2007 From: Michael.Zoet at michaelzoet.de (Michael Zoet) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:43:50 +0100 Subject: where to put xhosts commands In-Reply-To: <4732AE30.400@lemmons.name> References: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> <4732AE30.400@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4732BE36.9060800@michaelzoet.de> Paul Lemmons schrieb: > Paul Lemmons wrote: > >> I need to allow several machines to use the x server on my machine. I >> have altered kdm.conf and now if I run "xhost +" I can run x >> applications from another server. I would like to be a little more >> granular that "xhost +" and I don't want to have to type in the commands >> every time. On my Fedora box I set up a script in xinit.d. No such >> directory exists on Kubuntu. Where would one put a series of xhost >> commands so that I can set it up once for all users and forget it? Is >> there a better way than xhost? >> >> > What I wound up doing: > > Created a script: xhost.sh > > #!/bin/bash > xhost +host1 > xhost +host2 > ... > ... > > > I marked it as executable: chmod +x xhost.sh > > I copied it to ~/.kde/Autostart > > Now when I login it automatically runs and I can run X applications > hosted on other computers. > > That's a better way than setting up a .xsession file :-)! I did not think about the KDE autostart feature... And I should use it more often by myself. From kassube at gmx.net Thu Nov 8 08:20:04 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:20:04 +0100 Subject: Adding boot options? In-Reply-To: <4732AC04.8070203@rmk.co.il> References: <4732AC04.8070203@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200711080920.04359.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > I have a relatively old computer with Feisty installed. At the initial > boot screen it prints a message on the screen informing me that it is a > pre-2000 bios and I need to add 'apci=force' to the boot menu (the > computer doesn't shutdown completely - I have to hold the power button > for several seconds for it to power off and then unplug it as it will > sometimes power back on again after 30 secs. or so). > > Q. How do I add the 'apci=force' to the boot menu? Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root with the command: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst Search for the line # kopt=root= ro and put your extra boot parameter at the end of the line. Then it looks like this: # kopt=root= ro apci=force Now search for lines starting with kernel /boot/vmlinuz- and put your extra boot parameter at the end of all these lines also. Nils From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 09:46:09 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:46:09 +0100 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: Ad block plus is a Firefox extension that I would not want to surf without! Maybe Firefox is slower but if you have to grab all those ads and look at them then which is slower. Firefox without the ads or others with them? I also happen to love Noia extream icon set. So if speed is what you really love then use Link2 or lynx or whichever one is the fastest. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It seems to run just fine with Wine except for one small > >>> detail. It needs internet access, which it doesn't seem to be able to get. > >>> > >>> Should programs running with Wine be able to access the internet through > >>> the default Kubuntu [ Feisty ] settings? > >>> > >>> I've written to ask the author if there is any special connection needs > >>> that I need to know. > >>> > >> Any time I have run a app in wine, it connects the internet just fine > >> for me because the the linux box was already connected to the internet. > >> > >> Harold > >> > > > > I've notice that if my internet connection is down while I start the > > windows program, some will not try to connect after the first failure to > > do so. Most of those are compiled with the old Visual Studio 6, be it > > VB or VC++. 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URL: From giacof at tiscali.it Thu Nov 8 12:19:58 2007 From: giacof at tiscali.it (giacof at tiscali.it) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:19:58 +0100 Subject: Cannot compile kernel without Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support Message-ID: <200711081319.58794.giacof@tiscali.it> Hello, I tried to build a custom 2.6.22 kernel on Kubuntu Gutsy without initramfs support, but the compilation stops with the following error: init/built-in.o: In function `start_kernel': /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/init/main.c:635: undefined reference to `early_populate_rootfs' make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22' make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel] Error 2 I can post my .config, if needed. In any case, I don't like the idea to be forced to enable initramfs. Any help would be highly appreciated. Federico From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 12:21:13 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:21:13 -0500 Subject: Backports Dapper In-Reply-To: <200711080815.02737.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711080815.02737.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4732FF39.3060808@bmts.com> Donn wrote: > Hi, > I just tripped over a ref to 'backports' in another post and I thought I'd ask > about it. > I'm still on Dapper and it's getting crufty. I don't have time right now to > fight with a new installation (and all the backing up ...) but I would rather > like to have GTK+ > 2.10 and all it's little pals. > Is there some magical way to do this on Dapper via apt? I have tried > compiling it all but I only get part-way before running into problems that > I'm not savvy enough to figure out. To get the backports you need to adjust your repository sources. The easiest way to do this is by running kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list from the command line then removing any #'s that you see beside the backports address. It should look something like this: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse But, it will say Dapper instead of Gutsy. After that, save it then do apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade. You will probably get a large amount of updates, so it could take a while to upgrade. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 12:28:38 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:28:38 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <473300F6.9010403@bmts.com> Hi all, I apologize for staring this argument, that was not my intention :) The reason why I mentioned that Firefox should be the standard is because it is the standard in Ubuntu and Xubuntu (at least it was before) and, at least, Majority of people use Firefox. I am very surprised to find Firefox is GTK-based. Is that only in Linux? When I use to use windoze and installed Firefox, I don't remember installing GTK. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From arzajac at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 12:33:18 2007 From: arzajac at gmail.com (Andrew Zajac) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:33:18 -0500 Subject: Adding boot options? In-Reply-To: <200711080920.04359.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4732AC04.8070203@rmk.co.il> <200711080920.04359.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <65241ce50711080433s66f6f4f2w8efd2662858661d7@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 8, 2007 3:20 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Search for the line > > # kopt=root= ro > > and put your extra boot parameter at the end of the line. Then it looks > like this: > > # kopt=root= ro apci=force > > Now search for lines starting with > > kernel /boot/vmlinuz- > > and put your extra boot parameter at the end of all these lines also. > You don't need to do the second step. Just save the file and run sudo update-grub and it will be done for you. That's what the kopt line is for! az From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Thu Nov 8 12:39:59 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:39:59 +0000 Subject: Setting up wxPython Message-ID: <20071108123959.1e866d9d.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> I am using kubuntu Edgy. Python was included for me at the original installation. I am now trying to set up wxPython. I used adept manager to install wxPython. However, when I try to import wx I am told that there is no such module. I have looked around my computer, but admit to being somewhat baffled. Since python was included at the original install and I used adept to add wxPython (which is shown as installed) I would have expected it to just work. Can anyone help please? Neil Winchurst From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 12:49:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:49:13 +0200 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <473300F6.9010403@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> <473300F6.9010403@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711081449.13909.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I am very surprised to find Firefox is GTK-based. Is that only in > Linux? When I use to use windoze and installed Firefox, I don't > remember installing GTK. > I blv. they can build it against Windows toolkits or GTK. I wish they'd add QT :( \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 12:53:24 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:53:24 +0200 Subject: Setting up wxPython In-Reply-To: <20071108123959.1e866d9d.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071108123959.1e866d9d.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <200711081453.24546.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Can anyone help please? You should go to the wxpython website, downloads, scroll to the bottom. There's a link to the wiki where they give you instructions about adding their repo to sources.list. After that it works fine. The wxPython demo is a sep. download (on download page) and is vital to getting to grips with the whole thing - also a good way to test it all works. hth \d From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 12:53:00 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 07:53:00 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <200711081449.13909.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> <473300F6.9010403@bmts.com> <200711081449.13909.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473306AC.2060901@bmts.com> Donn wrote: >> I am very surprised to find Firefox is GTK-based. Is that only in >> Linux? When I use to use windoze and installed Firefox, I don't >> remember installing GTK. >> > I blv. they can build it against Windows toolkits or GTK. I wish they'd add > QT :( Okay, I see. So, when they put Firefox on Linux they choose GTK for the graphical toolkit. Yea, an option for Qt would be nice. I find that Firefox haves a QT feel and look to it already :) Maybe we should write a few letters to the mozilla foundation or put up wish list items. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 13:04:46 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:04:46 +0200 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <473306AC.2060901@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711081449.13909.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473306AC.2060901@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711081504.46216.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I find that Firefox haves a QT feel and look to it already :) Maybe we should write a few letters to the mozilla foundation or put up wish list items. Thats the GTK-QT theme thingumajingy that Kubuntu uses. It's all effects and no real QT (as far as I know. It *could* be something clever that kind of glues QT widgets onto GTK ones, I dunno). I find QT faster than GTK but I seem to be a majority of one :) As for arguing the case for QT... I'm still growing the fingers back on the hand that tried posting about that before :D \d From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 13:01:30 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:01:30 -0600 Subject: Setting up wxPython In-Reply-To: <200711081453.24546.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <20071108123959.1e866d9d.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> <200711081453.24546.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711080501h36cca079x1b02b24084fa45f9@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 8, 2007 6:53 AM, Donn wrote: > > Can anyone help please? > You should go to the wxpython website, downloads, scroll to the bottom. > There's a link to the wiki where they give you instructions about adding > their repo to sources.list. After that it works fine. > > The wxPython demo is a sep. download (on download page) and is vital to > getting to grips with the whole thing - also a good way to test it all works. > > hth > \d > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > http://wiki.wxpython.org/InstallingOnUbuntuOrDebian Don't think they have a gpg key so you'll have to confirm installation but there it works. Greg From bluszcz at jabberpl.org Thu Nov 8 13:49:55 2007 From: bluszcz at jabberpl.org (=?utf-8?q?Rafa=C5=82_Zawadzki?=) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:49:55 +0100 Subject: Cannot compile kernel without Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support In-Reply-To: <200711081319.58794.giacof@tiscali.it> References: <200711081319.58794.giacof@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <200711081449.55577.bluszcz@jabberpl.org> On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:19:58 giacof at tiscali.it wrote: > Hello, I tried to build a custom 2.6.22 kernel on Kubuntu Gutsy without > initramfs support, but the compilation stops with the following error: > > init/built-in.o: In function `start_kernel': > /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/init/main.c:635: undefined reference to > `early_populate_rootfs' make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22' > make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel] Error 2 > > I can post my .config, if needed. In any case, I don't like the idea to be > forced to enable initramfs. Any help would be highly appreciated. > > Federico Can you describe your build process? -- Rafał bluszcz Zawadzki http://my.jabberpl.org - use jabber http://glam.pl - try secondhand clothes http://bluszcz.net - my homepage http://dkf.glam.pl - domorosły krytyk filmowy From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Thu Nov 8 14:16:57 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:16:57 +0000 Subject: svc: bad direction 256, dropping request Message-ID: <200711081416.57465.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Recently if I type dmesg in Konsole, I've seen the message svc: bad direction 256, dropping request repeated over and over again as in: [ 55.700000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 73.340000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 85.740000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 102.468000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 115.700000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 132.400000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 146.012000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 162.404000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 176.004000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 192.404000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 206.004000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 222.404000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 236.008000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 252.408000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 266.008000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 282.408000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 296.008000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 312.412000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 326.012000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 342.412000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 356.012000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 372.412000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request [ 386.016000] svc: bad direction 256, dropping request Is there any way of finding out what's causing it, I have a suspicion that it may be the RT61 driver I installed to get over the wireless networking problems I've been having with 7.10. From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Thu Nov 8 14:19:10 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:19:10 -0600 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DD968@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> > Dont want to stir up trouble but I have switched to virtualbox and am > generally happier with it, it also contains the ability to create the virt > machiune unlike vmware-player. Saves a little aggrivation.. > I find it smoother and more stable. I haven't found a couple of features I > want yet, but they are probably there for the hunting. Funny you should say this, as I just completed (last night) installing both (vmware/vbox) on a brand new install of kubuntu 7.10 - and actually spent the time to create xp vm's on each - fully updated and all that business - and I must say, vbox is surprisingly faster and more responsive, for me, than vmware. Note that I am a new user of both, but I used the OSE of vbox and compiled it. My reasoning is that being a new linux user, I still need to be able to have photoshop for my artwork (I'm trying to learn the gimp as fast as possible, but when I just have to get a job done, I turn on PS) and I also am trying to see if I can get iTunes to sync my ipod - couldn't get it going last night, but I'm searching for some answers... Anyway, I'll keep them both installed for a while, but my first impression was that Virtualbox wins, hands-down. (and I LOVE the seemless mode!) Tim From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Nov 8 15:04:34 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:04:34 +0200 Subject: Adding boot options? In-Reply-To: <65241ce50711080433s66f6f4f2w8efd2662858661d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4732AC04.8070203@rmk.co.il> <200711080920.04359.kassube@gmx.net> <65241ce50711080433s66f6f4f2w8efd2662858661d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47332582.70805@rmk.co.il> Andrew Zajac wrote: > On Nov 8, 2007 3:20 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Search for the line >> >> # kopt=root= ro >> >> and put your extra boot parameter at the end of the line. Then it looks >> like this: >> >> # kopt=root= ro apci=force >> >> Now search for lines starting with >> >> kernel /boot/vmlinuz- >> >> and put your extra boot parameter at the end of all these lines also. >> > > You don't need to do the second step. Just save the file and run > > sudo update-grub > > and it will be done for you. That's what the kopt line is for! > > az > Don't I have to remove the '#' at the beginning of the line? # kopt=root= ro apci=force Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From giacof at tiscali.it Thu Nov 8 15:08:39 2007 From: giacof at tiscali.it (giacof at tiscali.it) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:08:39 +0100 Subject: Cannot compile kernel without Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support Message-ID: <200711081608.40150.giacof@tiscali.it> > On Thursday 08 November 2007 13:19:58 giacof at tiscali.it wrote: > > Hello, I tried to build a custom 2.6.22 kernel on Kubuntu Gutsy without > > initramfs support, but the compilation stops with the following error: > > > > init/built-in.o: In function `start_kernel': > > /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/init/main.c:635: undefined reference to > > `early_populate_rootfs' make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22' > > make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel] Error 2 > > > > I can post my .config, if needed. In any case, I don't like the idea to > > be forced to enable initramfs. Any help would be highly appreciated. > > > > Federico > > Can you describe your build process? Sure: cd /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22 make-kpkg clean make xconfig [deselecting option 'Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support'] [switchting options related to file system and HDD controller from module to kernel, etc.] fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=-custom --revision=0.2 kernel_image kernel_headers Note: previous revision (0.1) had no relevant difference other than the ones reported in brackets, and was successfully compiled. Many thanks, Federico From kassube at gmx.net Thu Nov 8 15:36:00 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:36:00 +0100 Subject: Adding boot options? In-Reply-To: <47332582.70805@rmk.co.il> References: <4732AC04.8070203@rmk.co.il> <65241ce50711080433s66f6f4f2w8efd2662858661d7@mail.gmail.com> <47332582.70805@rmk.co.il> Message-ID: <200711081636.00676.kassube@gmx.net> Nigel Ridley wrote: > Andrew Zajac wrote: > > On Nov 8, 2007 3:20 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Search for the line > >> > >> # kopt=root= ro > >> > >> and put your extra boot parameter at the end of the line. Then it > >> looks like this: > >> > >> # kopt=root= ro apci=force > > Don't I have to remove the '#' at the beginning of the line? > # kopt=root= ro apci=force No, the # is needed. Nils From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Nov 8 15:37:29 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:37:29 -0500 Subject: Cannot compile kernel without Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support In-Reply-To: <200711081319.58794.giacof@tiscali.it> References: <200711081319.58794.giacof@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <20071108153729.GA19509@localhost> giacof at tiscali.it (giacof at tiscali.it) had this to say on 11/08/07 at 07:28: > Hello, I tried to build a custom 2.6.22 kernel on Kubuntu Gutsy without initramfs support, but the compilation stops with the following error: > > init/built-in.o: In function `start_kernel': > /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/init/main.c:635: undefined reference to `early_populate_rootfs' > make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22' > make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel] Error 2 > > I can post my .config, if needed. In any case, I don't like the idea to be forced to enable initramfs. Why not? What does having it limit you? (I had the same issue, although not on gutsy, and I just used the initramfs) From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 16:08:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:08:07 -0400 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 References: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1986181.5Y5o6gciob@cedar.serverforest.com> pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > From: Scott >> Greg Booth wrote: >> > VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from >> > source it's 100% open source. >> If you install the provided packages from adept/synaptic you also get >> the open source version. >> > True. but isn't it also true that Kubuntu will not supply packages of new > versions for 7.10; you'll have to wait until 8.04 for any upgrades between > now and next April. If you compile from VB's source, you can stay > current. Paul That's _essentially_ true of any package, in any distro (though there are always the odd packages that someone cares enough about to backport). That's just an argument for going to upstream for packages you really care about, not an open-source argument. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 15:58:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:58:02 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> Message-ID: <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> Ted Frater wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>Scott wrote: >> >>>I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) >> >>Should Not! :-) (Can you tell I don't like Firefox?) >> >> > Ok I can accept that > buy why? It's sloooooooowwwwwww (at least to start). > And what do you like? as a browser? I love Konqueror for file & web browsing. I _want_ both together, and I want them integrated with kio slaves. Firefox (or opera) fails on both counts. > Tho not as simple as Netscape 3, LOL. I'm a geek-dinosaur, but I'm not sure even I used Netscape 3. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 15:53:24 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:53:24 -0400 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1250428.ndXUkXCSAm@cedar.serverforest.com> Greg Booth wrote: > VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from > source it's 100% open source. I'm having some trouble figuring out how compiling it yourself makes any difference to it's open source status... -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:27:16 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:27:16 +0200 Subject: Backports Dapper In-Reply-To: <4732FF39.3060808@bmts.com> References: <200711080815.02737.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4732FF39.3060808@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711081827.16581.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Thanks for the info. It seems I already had them uncommented after all. Looks like I'm on GTK+2.8 until I get the chutzpa to install a new O/S. \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:29:38 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:29:38 +0200 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711081829.38511.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > LOL. I'm a geek-dinosaur, but I'm not sure even I used Netscape 3. Hell, I'm a geek-o-saur and I *did* use NS3, damn fine zippy little thing that was. Ah, the old days of day-glo LSD-swimmy backdrop repeat graphics and text plonked above it all :) /d From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 15:59:43 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:59:43 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <14589011.7NqO0ou9Pk@cedar.serverforest.com> Knapp wrote: > Ad block plus is a Firefox extension What's the "plus"? Konqueror has adblock. I find it actually interferes - I keep seeing missing icons, and it turns out they're blocked. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:30:33 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 18:30:33 +0200 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1250428.ndXUkXCSAm@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> <1250428.ndXUkXCSAm@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711081830.33254.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I'm having some trouble figuring out how compiling it yourself makes any > difference to it's open source status... I think it's cos you can open the tarball and see the source :D Other than that, no clue! \d From giacof at tiscali.it Thu Nov 8 16:26:25 2007 From: giacof at tiscali.it (Federico) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:26:25 +0100 Subject: Cannot compile kernel without Initial RAM filesystem and RAM disk (initramfs/initrd) support In-Reply-To: <20071108153729.GA19509@localhost> References: <200711081319.58794.giacof@tiscali.it> <20071108153729.GA19509@localhost> Message-ID: <200711081726.25998.giacof@tiscali.it> Il Thursday 08 November 2007 16:37:29 Mike Leone ha scritto: > giacof at tiscali.it (giacof at tiscali.it) had this to say on 11/08/07 at 07:28: > > Hello, I tried to build a custom 2.6.22 kernel on Kubuntu Gutsy without initramfs support, but the compilation stops with the following error: > > > > init/built-in.o: In function `start_kernel': > > /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/init/main.c:635: undefined reference to `early_populate_rootfs' > > make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22' > > make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel] Error 2 > > > > I can post my .config, if needed. In any case, I don't like the idea to be forced to enable initramfs. > > Why not? What does having it limit you? > > (I had the same issue, although not on gutsy, and I just used the initramfs) > Well, there were planties of discussions about it: I think that initrd is mainly useful to official distributions, which have to support any existing hdd controller and a variety of different file systems. Of course, it would be a nonsense to compile all possible drivers statically in the kernel, and that's why they are built as modules and loaded dinamically in the ram disk. If I compile the kernel for my own PC only, I know what support has to be included in the kernel itself (just the one needed by my hardware), thus the initrd would be an unnecessary overhead that makes the boot process slightly slower. In any case, and that's even more relevant to me, it should be possible *in principle* to compile the kernel without initramfs/initrd support: if any attempt fails, it means there is something wrong and I'm willing to find it out... From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 16:05:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:05:51 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711081449.13909.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473306AC.2060901@bmts.com> <200711081504.46216.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6275604.OVJl7E23MN@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> I find that Firefox haves a QT feel and look to it already :) Maybe we > should write a few letters to the mozilla foundation or put up wish list > items. > Thats the GTK-QT theme thingumajingy that Kubuntu uses. It's all effects > and no real QT (as far as I know. It *could* be something clever that kind > of glues QT widgets onto GTK ones, I dunno). I find QT faster than GTK but > I seem to be a majority of one :) > > As for arguing the case for QT... I'm still growing the fingers back on > the hand that tried posting about that before :D LOL. I'm of two minds. I _think_ QT adds a lot of overhead that makes many KDE apps inherently less responsive than Gnome ones - but that's just a sense from _very_ little knowledge :-) otoh, even though I rarely care about eye candy, I just find QT apps _look_ much more professional than GTK ones. I'm currently getting into UML tools. KDE's Umbrello is really beautiful, and looks way better than the Java app I am using. It only has one problem - it doesn't properly handle UML output from any other UML tool I use, or write it out in the format that the other tools read :-) As Billy Crystal used to say on Saturday Night Live - "It's better to loook goood that to be goood". -- derek From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 16:36:09 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:36:09 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > Ted Frater wrote: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> Scott wrote: >>> >>>> I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) >>> Should Not! :-) (Can you tell I don't like Firefox?) >>> >>> >> Ok I can accept that >> buy why? > > It's sloooooooowwwwwww (at least to start). That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overstated :), especially when comparing Konqueror and Firefox. The difference in speed between Firefox and Konqueror in startup speed is very little, I counted only a 3 second difference on my laptop. The speed of the program itself, after start, is unnoticeable; at least on a modern machine. The speed between the two can't be that much anyhow, is Konqueror not based on Firefox? >> And what do you like? as a browser? > > I love Konqueror for file & web browsing. I _want_ both together, and I > want them integrated with kio slaves. Firefox (or opera) fails on both > counts. I like Konqueror(I love Konqueror as a file browser), but it can't compare to Firefox as a web browser. It does not have the same number of browser features (Konqueror is a file browser first and foremost, not a browser) and with Firefox's hundreds of add-ons Firefox can be made to do almost anything you want. >> Tho not as simple as Netscape 3, > > LOL. I'm a geek-dinosaur, but I'm not sure even I used Netscape 3. I used Netscape up until the release of Firefox .8, I can't remember the first Netscape I used, but it would be very old as that was over 10 years ago. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:49:30 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:49:30 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711080849k20eea4c4nc7f1ab61da09524f@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 8, 2007 11:36 AM, Scott wrote: [snip] > machine. The speed between the two can't be that much anyhow, is > Konqueror not based on Firefox? Konqueror is not based on Firefox. If I am not mistaken, Konqueror's engine was written from scratch and is called KHTML. The engine for Firefox (Gecko) was taken from Netscape (when they opened their source code). Apple's Safari web browser is a derivative of the KHTML engine, but there is no relationship between the engine of Konqueror and Firefox. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Thu Nov 8 16:52:26 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:52:26 -0600 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <14589011.7NqO0ou9Pk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDBCE@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> > What's the "plus"? Konqueror has adblock. Do you ever have problems with Konqueror and gmail? I can't get it to work for anything - that's the main reason I installed/use firefox. From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 16:59:04 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:59:04 -0600 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711081830.33254.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> <1250428.ndXUkXCSAm@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711081830.33254.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711080859h2a86674ajf242dad4b92b13a3@mail.gmail.com> Ok, so for starters I'm referring to this webpage ( http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions ) There IS a difference between OSE ( Open Source Edition ) but I'm not sure if the OSE is what is packaged in (K)Ubuntu or not. Closed source includes: + Remote Display Protocol (RDP) Server + USB support + USB over RDP + iSCSI initiator The closed source is free ( as in beer ) but not truly open source as there are closed source components to it. Greg From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Thu Nov 8 17:03:35 2007 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:03:35 +0000 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1250428.ndXUkXCSAm@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035A1EF3@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711071524.30324.lists@ptfd.org> <720b310e0711071243r14379d9cs9f135597eb7f252d@mail.gmail.com> <1250428.ndXUkXCSAm@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <47334167.1080907@yahoo.it> Derek Broughton wrote: > Greg Booth wrote: > >> VirtualBox just seems to run faster and of course if you compile from >> source it's 100% open source. > > I'm having some trouble figuring out how compiling it yourself makes any > difference to it's open source status... The difference is in that the portion for which the source code is available is not the full VirtualBox thing that you can download precompiled. As far as I can see, the precompiled files are made of a portion which is free (as beer) + a portion which is free (as speech). If you want only the second one, you download the source and compile it yourself... I. -- Ignazio Palmisano Ph.D. - ignazio dot palmisano at gmail dot com From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Nov 8 17:02:46 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:02:46 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <473300F6.9010403@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> <473300F6.9010403@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711081203.02875.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 08 November 2007 07:28:38 Scott wrote: >  I am very surprised to find Firefox is GTK-based.  Is that only in > Linux?  When I use to use windoze and installed Firefox, I don't > remember installing GTK. I don't know what it uses in windows, but there used to be -- might still be -- a package (something like) qt-gtk-theme that used all the qt stuff for gtk apps. I'm working with a fresh install here at work and don't know if it is part of the default install or you have to add it. You configure it via kcontrol. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 17:14:28 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:14:28 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711080849k20eea4c4nc7f1ab61da09524f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <9bed467e0711080849k20eea4c4nc7f1ab61da09524f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473343F4.6060106@bmts.com> Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On Nov 8, 2007 11:36 AM, Scott wrote: > [snip] >> machine. The speed between the two can't be that much anyhow, is >> Konqueror not based on Firefox? > > Konqueror is not based on Firefox. If I am not mistaken, Konqueror's > engine was written from scratch and is called KHTML. The engine for > Firefox (Gecko) was taken from Netscape (when they opened their source > code). Oh, yea, that is right, I forgot about KHTML. I got confused because Konqueror uses Netscape plugins and it identifies itself as "like Gecko", but it does identify itself as KHTML. I guess KHTML is similar to Gecko. It is really cool that Safari is based on Konqueror. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 16:08:35 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:08:35 -0400 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 References: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <473266BC.3070002@bmts.com> <3dde113c0711071735x22c90feel9a1f27beabd9b81a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1474690.dQGlNbA29K@cedar.serverforest.com> John DeCarlo wrote: > I think it is instructive that the VirtualBox site itself supports Debian > packages and labels it accordingly: > > deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free > LOL - Debian/Feisty? -- derek From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Nov 8 17:16:33 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:16:33 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711081222.22003.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 08 November 2007 10:58:02 Derek Broughton wrote: > I love Konqueror for file & web browsing.  I _want_ both together, and I > want them integrated with kio slaves.  Firefox (or opera) fails on both > counts konq is nice and speedy to start, but on my system loads pages slower than firefox -- something about wanting to load all of the graphics before it renders the page. If it is having trouble with an image, nothing is rendered, rather than the mozilla broken-image icon. And the ability to to browse the network, the local machine, and render html is very nice, but I can't access my bank or my webmail with it, and that's a deal breaker in terms of exclusive use. Konq is a grade A++ file manager, but at best a grade B web browser. I HATE dolphin. > . > > >  Tho not as simple as Netscape 3, > > LOL.  I'm a geek-dinosaur, but I'm not sure even I used Netscape 3. I remember Netscape 0.9 which was about 750 k in windows -- smaller than the average web page these days. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Thu Nov 8 17:25:14 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:25:14 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> Message-ID: <200711081225.23189.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Thursday 08 November 2007 11:36:09 Scott wrote: > is > Konqueror not based on Firefox? No, KHTML. If it was based on gecko, it would render pages the same. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 17:38:53 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:38:53 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <200711081222.22003.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711081222.22003.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <473349AD.4040900@bmts.com> Art Alexion wrote: > Konq is a grade A++ file manager, but at best a grade B web browser. Very true, I would say the same. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From bootgr at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 17:38:58 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:38:58 -0600 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1474690.dQGlNbA29K@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <473266BC.3070002@bmts.com> <3dde113c0711071735x22c90feel9a1f27beabd9b81a@mail.gmail.com> <1474690.dQGlNbA29K@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711080938h239d2712y4e86269779d6a6ce@mail.gmail.com> > > deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free > > > LOL - Debian/Feisty? > -- > derek > > Kinda like saying Redhat/CentOS5 .... Greg From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 17:35:03 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:35:03 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <14589011.7NqO0ou9Pk@cedar.serverforest.com> <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDBCE@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <1833737.uVYPZ2VFtj@cedar.serverforest.com> Tipton, Timothy wrote: >> What's the "plus"? Konqueror has adblock. > > Do you ever have problems with Konqueror and gmail? Konqueror works for gmail provided that you tell it to identify itself as practically anything but Konqueror. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 17:47:28 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:47:28 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> Message-ID: <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> Scott wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> Ted Frater wrote: >> >>> Derek Broughton wrote: >>> >>>> Scott wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would not worry about it, Firefox should be the default :) >>>> Should Not! :-) (Can you tell I don't like Firefox?) >>>> >>>> >>> Ok I can accept that >>> buy why? >> >> It's sloooooooowwwwwww (at least to start). > That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overstated :), It might be a liiittle overstated :-) > especially when comparing Konqueror and Firefox. The difference in > speed between Firefox and Konqueror in startup speed is very little, I > counted only a 3 second difference on my laptop. Konqueror only takes about that long to start for me - but iirc there's a "preload" setting somewhere, and I usually run just one Konqueror window for the entire time I'm in KDE. Firefox, from the point at which I request to open a link in Firefox takes an absolute minimum of 20 seconds, and if I actually ask it to open a link while it's doing it, usually much more. > The speed of the > program itself, after start, is unnoticeable; at least on a modern > machine. Yes, it's the startup speed that really annoys me. > The speed between the two can't be that much anyhow, is > Konqueror not based on Firefox? No. Konqueror is KHTML (same as Safari - or at least same as Safari used to be) and Firefox is Gecko. >>> And what do you like? as a browser? >> >> I love Konqueror for file & web browsing. I _want_ both together, and I >> want them integrated with kio slaves. Firefox (or opera) fails on both >> counts. > I like Konqueror(I love Konqueror as a file browser), but it can't > compare to Firefox as a web browser. It does not have the same number > of browser features (Konqueror is a file browser first and foremost, not > a browser) and with Firefox's hundreds of add-ons Firefox can be made to > do almost anything you want. I don't believe Firefox is a file browser foremost - that's an extra. I suppose what it really is a kparts-container. I agree the web browser component isn't _as_ good as Firefox, which is why I actually have Firefox at all - sometimes I need a browser that will work :-( KHTML, though, was a good enough web browser for Apple to want to use it as the foundation of Safari. Let me know as soon as Firefox comes with kio plugins, and I'll consider coming over to the Dark Side :-) > >>> Tho not as simple as Netscape 3, >> >> LOL. I'm a geek-dinosaur, but I'm not sure even I used Netscape 3. > I used Netscape up until the release of Firefox .8, I can't remember the > first Netscape I used, but it would be very old as that was over 10 > years ago. I was purely using IE until, I think, Netscape 4, but I might have used 3 a little. -- derek From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 18:30:38 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:30:38 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <473355CE.5050902@bmts.com> Derek Broughton wrote: > I don't believe Firefox is a file browser foremost Is that a Fruedian slip there :) I assume you meant to say Konqueror. > Let me know as soon as Firefox comes with kio plugins, and I'll > consider coming over to the Dark Side :-) This question begs to be asked :) What are special about the Kio plugins? Just so you know, I use Konqueror for FTP which I use on a common basis to upload files to my website. Also, I would never suggest using Firefox for use with FTP (uploading or downloading), I would suggest Konqueror, or possibly gftp. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Nov 8 19:07:41 2007 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:07:41 +0000 Subject: File manager choice Message-ID: <20071108190741.5fa6f184.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Is there a convenient way to configure things in Gutsy such that removable media and directories opened via Alt-F2 are opened with konqueror rather than dolphin? TIA James -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From ronw at paradise.net.nz Thu Nov 8 19:15:59 2007 From: ronw at paradise.net.nz (ronw at paradise.net.nz) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:15:59 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DD968@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DD968@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <1194549359.4733606f0ebd7@www.paradise.net.nz> I saw somewhere that Adobe were going to make available Linux ports of both Dreamweaver and Photoshop. Does anyone know whre this port is? Quoting "Tipton, Timothy" : > > My reasoning is that being a new linux user, I still need to be able to > have photoshop for my artwork (I'm trying to learn the gimp as fast as > possible, but when I just have to get a job done, I turn on PS) and I > also am trying to see if I can get iTunes to sync my ipod - couldn't > get > it going last night, but I'm searching for some answers... > > Anyway, I'll keep them both installed for a while, but my first > impression was that Virtualbox wins, hands-down. (and I LOVE the > seemless mode!) > > Tim > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > - Ron Wilson From rick_knight at rlknight.com Thu Nov 8 19:36:58 2007 From: rick_knight at rlknight.com (Rick Knight) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:36:58 -0800 Subject: Webcam Recommendation Message-ID: <4733655A.2050304@rlknight.com> I know it's been asked before, but I don't recall what answers were given. I need to get a Webcam that will work well with Kubuntu Feisty. I would like to keep the price under $50.00(US). Any recommendations? Thanks, Rick From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 8 20:09:06 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:09:06 -0500 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1194549359.4733606f0ebd7@www.paradise.net.nz> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DD968@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1194549359.4733606f0ebd7@www.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <47336CE2.80404@sbcglobal.net> ronw at paradise.net.nz wrote: > I saw somewhere that Adobe were going to make available Linux ports of both > Dreamweaver and Photoshop. Does anyone know whre this port is? > > > Quoting "Tipton, Timothy" : > > > >> My reasoning is that being a new linux user, I still need to be able to >> have photoshop for my artwork (I'm trying to learn the gimp as fast as >> possible, but when I just have to get a job done, I turn on PS) and I >> also am trying to see if I can get iTunes to sync my ipod - couldn't >> get >> it going last night, but I'm searching for some answers... >> >> Anyway, I'll keep them both installed for a while, but my first >> impression was that Virtualbox wins, hands-down. (and I LOVE the >> seemless mode!) >> >> Tim >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> I saw something about it on Automatix2. It costs a little, though, I think like from $39 to $59 for the program, but it is supposed to work on a Linux platform and that sure is a lot cheaper than Photoshop for Windows, like about $700. Steven > > > > - > Ron Wilson > > From mailinglist at endosquid.com Thu Nov 8 20:10:31 2007 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:10:31 -0500 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1194549359.4733606f0ebd7@www.paradise.net.nz> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DD968@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1194549359.4733606f0ebd7@www.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <200711081510.31839.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Thursday 08 November 2007, ronw at paradise.net.nz wrote: > I saw somewhere that Adobe were going to make available Linux ports of both > Dreamweaver and Photoshop. Does anyone know whre this port is? Someone was pulling your leg. From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 8 21:24:48 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:24:48 +0000 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1194549359.4733606f0ebd7@www.paradise.net.nz> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DD968@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1194549359.4733606f0ebd7@www.paradise.net.nz> Message-ID: <20071108212448.584d3bec@graham-desktop> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:15:59 +1300 (NZDT) ronw at paradise.net.nz wrote: > I saw somewhere that Adobe were going to make available Linux ports > of both Dreamweaver and Photoshop. Does anyone know whre this port is? I read just the opposite - that they were not going to port them to Linux, but if there's any move on this I too would be interested. But what's wrong with The GIMP plus GIMPshop? The two together arrange the GIMP menus so they are familiar to Photoshop users. I use them regularly to import tutorials on Photoshop from the photographic magazine to which I subscribe here in the UK.... You know, those that are supplied on disk. So I'm guessing that The GIMP with GIMPshop are pretty much compatible with Photoshop. And The GIMP is free (as in freedom AND price), open source, and doesn't cost $649.00.... -- Graham Todd From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Thu Nov 8 21:29:26 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 21:29:26 +0000 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071108212926.79a831f9@graham-desktop> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:47:28 -0400 Derek Broughton wrote: > > The speed of the > > program itself, after start, is unnoticeable; at least on a modern > > machine. > > Yes, it's the startup speed that really annoys me. [snipped] What's wrong with using Opera? or if you prefer something minimalist, try Dillo -- Graham Todd From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Thu Nov 8 21:46:04 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:46:04 -0600 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <20071108212448.584d3bec@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> > But what's wrong with The GIMP plus GIMPshop? The two together arrange > the GIMP menus so they are familiar to Photoshop users. I use them > regularly to import tutorials on Photoshop from the photographic > magazine to which I subscribe here in the UK.... You know, those that > are supplied on disk. So I'm guessing that The GIMP with GIMPshop are > pretty much compatible with Photoshop. So you install gimpshop on top of The GIMP? I always thought it was a standalone version of GIMP - I have never had much luck getting it to work correctly. To be honest, I really like GIMP - I just don't know it very well, and after using PS for the last 10 years, I can whip out what I need in PS in about 1/4 of the time it takes me to do minimal work in GIMP. From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 21:47:36 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:47:36 +0100 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <14589011.7NqO0ou9Pk@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> <14589011.7NqO0ou9Pk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: > > What's the "plus"? Konqueror has adblock. I find it actually interferes > - > I keep seeing missing icons, and it turns out they're blocked. > > -- > derek > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 I really don't know what that plus is. All I can say is that it never blocks icons for me. What web site, what icons? I would love to test that out! I also use the auto filter subscriptions to make it work well. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slewin at bmts.com Thu Nov 8 21:48:01 2007 From: slewin at bmts.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:01 -0500 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <20071108212926.79a831f9@graham-desktop> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071108212926.79a831f9@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <47338411.80100@bmts.com> Graham wrote: > What's wrong with using Opera? I like Opera, I would consider it my 2nd or 3rd favourite behind Firefox. It haves some really nice features and looks good. The reason why I like Firefox more is because Opera is not open source, it is not in the Ubuntu repositories (only Medibuntu) and is the full version not a paid program? or if you prefer something minimalist, > try Dillo For minimalist, I would suggest lynx. -- Your friend, Scott Sent to you from a Linux computer using Kubuntu Version 7.10 From stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 8 23:31:22 2007 From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net (Steven Vollom) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:31:22 -0500 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <47339C4A.1060700@sbcglobal.net> Tipton, Timothy wrote: >> But what's wrong with The GIMP plus GIMPshop? The two together >> > arrange > >> the GIMP menus so they are familiar to Photoshop users. I use them >> regularly to import tutorials on Photoshop from the photographic >> magazine to which I subscribe here in the UK.... You know, those that >> are supplied on disk. So I'm guessing that The GIMP with GIMPshop are >> pretty much compatible with Photoshop. >> > > So you install gimpshop on top of The GIMP? I always thought it was a > standalone version of GIMP - I have never had much luck getting it to > work correctly. > > To be honest, I really like GIMP - I just don't know it very well, and > after using PS for the last 10 years, I can whip out what I need in PS > in about 1/4 of the time it takes me to do minimal work in GIMP. > > I mentioned Automatix2 earlier. I went and looked and something is offered that would allow you to use Office and Photoshop; it is free for a month then sold at a very low cost. You might look into it. Jusy Google *Automatix2*. Steven From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Nov 8 23:55:31 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:55:31 -0600 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <200711081504.46216.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711081449.13909.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473306AC.2060901@bmts.com> <200711081504.46216.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4733A1F3.4000401@swbell.net> Donn wrote: >> I find that Firefox haves a QT feel and look to it already :) Maybe we >> > should write a few letters to the mozilla foundation or put up wish list > items. > Thats the GTK-QT theme thingumajingy that Kubuntu uses. It's all effects and > no real QT (as far as I know. It *could* be something clever that kind of > glues QT widgets onto GTK ones, I dunno). I find QT faster than GTK but I > seem to be a majority of one :) > > As for arguing the case for QT... I'm still growing the fingers back on the > hand that tried posting about that before :D > > \d > > Well......I don't know QT from GTK. All I can tell anyone is that given a choice I will ALWAYS choose to use KDE. Why you ask. I can't really tell you a specific reason, but I just don't like Gnome. I tried Ubuntu a few times over the years when I was just thinking about moving over to Linux and didn't like it at all. When I first started seriously installing SUSE I would set it up so I could boot either into KDE or Gnome. Never liked Gnome. Finally I just left it out of installs. Then I heard about Kubuntu and decided to give it a try because it uses KDE rather than Gnome. I love it. From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Fri Nov 9 00:06:42 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 00:06:42 +0000 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <20071108212448.584d3bec@graham-desktop> <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <20071109000642.7d5c4b26@graham-desktop> On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:46:04 -0600 "Tipton, Timothy" wrote: > So you install gimpshop on top of The GIMP? I always thought it was a > standalone version of GIMP - I have never had much luck getting it to > work correctly. Exactly. That's the best way to install it, although I understand you can install GIMPshop and get the GIMP installed, but its really only a piece of coding that displays the menus in Photoshop format. -- Graham Todd From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 20:19:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:19:00 -0400 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 References: <110820070043.11882.47325BCB000CD34F00002E6A2200734840CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <473266BC.3070002@bmts.com> <3dde113c0711071735x22c90feel9a1f27beabd9b81a@mail.gmail.com> <1474690.dQGlNbA29K@cedar.serverforest.com> <720b310e0711080938h239d2712y4e86269779d6a6ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5453609.tLsyuFgtKz@cedar.serverforest.com> Greg Booth wrote: >> > deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian feisty non-free >> > >> LOL - Debian/Feisty? >> >> > Kinda like saying Redhat/CentOS5 .... Kinda, but Redhat/CentOS is more like Debian/Ubuntu. That URI format is typically used to indicate the release within a distro. It's not wrong, just odd. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 20:36:38 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:36:38 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> <473355CE.5050902@bmts.com> Message-ID: <2795409.iLDZXbBcz2@cedar.serverforest.com> Scott wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> I don't believe Firefox is a file browser foremost > Is that a Fruedian slip there :) I assume you meant to say Konqueror. LOL. I did indeed mean to say Konqueror. I do believe Firefox can manage to render a file: url, but that's a side effect. >> Let me know as soon as Firefox comes with kio plugins, and I'll >> consider coming over to the Dark Side :-) > This question begs to be asked :) What are special about the Kio plugins? > > Just so you know, I use Konqueror for FTP which I use on a common basis > to upload files to my website. OK, then you know you can use ftp: and sftp: URLs in konqueror. But you can also use smb:, imap:, fish:, and essentially a limitless number of other URLs - and all of those formats, because they're handled by a kio slave, should be usable by any other KDE app (assuming it can reasonably make use of such a data source). So, given the plugin architecture of Firefox, and the fact that a kio slave is just an I/O object, I would guess that it wouldn't be a huge job to make Firefox kio-aware. imo, that would make it awesome. -- derek From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Fri Nov 9 00:15:43 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 00:15:43 +0000 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <47338411.80100@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071108212926.79a831f9@graham-desktop> <47338411.80100@bmts.com> Message-ID: <20071109001543.0fb75af7@graham-desktop> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:01 -0500 Scott wrote: > The > reason why I like Firefox more is because Opera is not open source, Good reason > it is not in the Ubuntu repositories (only Medibuntu) and is the full > version not a paid program? No longer :-) But if the reason why the OP regarded Firefox as unsatisfactory was the time it took to fire up, then Opera is a great alternative. I install mine from the Opera website, so I don't go through Medibuntu. -- Graham Todd From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 8 20:25:20 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:25:20 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711081222.22003.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <13598293.c4s8edbNNF@cedar.serverforest.com> Art Alexion wrote: > And the ability to to browse the network, the local machine, and render > html is very nice, but I can't access my bank or my webmail with it, and > that's a deal breaker in terms of exclusive use. Of course, we like to point out that that's because those pages are actually broken, but that's not good enough. W3C doesn't mandate that pages have to be correct to be rendered, and if other browsers can render them correctly Konqueror needs to. Fortunately for me, Konq handles my bank without problems, and handles my web mail as long as I identify as a non-konqueror browser. -- derek From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 00:48:20 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:48:20 -0500 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <47339C4A.1060700@sbcglobal.net> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <47339C4A.1060700@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711081648m52d5d71byf1c4ac7872f2442b@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 8, 2007 6:31 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > I mentioned Automatix2 earlier. I went and looked and something is > offered that would allow you to use Office and Photoshop; it is free for > a month then sold at a very low cost. You might look into it. Jusy > Google *Automatix2*. Steven You're probably referring to that unfree CodeWeavers thing. It's kind of like wine, except its supposed to have better support and guarantees that certain Windows programs will run on top of Linux. Photoshop might run well in this environment, but the OP should probably try wine first. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 9 01:02:01 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:02:01 -0500 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel Message-ID: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> Kubuntu-7.10 How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Nov 9 01:07:27 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:07:27 -0600 Subject: Newby In-Reply-To: <473355CE.5050902@bmts.com> References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> <473355CE.5050902@bmts.com> Message-ID: <4733B2CF.10801@swbell.net> On 11/08/2007 Scott wrote: > Just so you know, I use Konqueror for FTP which I use on a common > basis > to upload files to my website. Also, I would never suggest using > Firefox for use with FTP (uploading or downloading), I would suggest > Konqueror, or possibly gftp. I generally use gftp but lately I have tried using the upload feature in KompoZer when working on my web pages. From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Fri Nov 9 01:11:20 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:11:20 -0500 Subject: Googleearth startup problems video Message-ID: <200711082011.20613.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Hi all: I installed the ATI driver using Envy and googleearth from the medibuntu repositories. When I try to start googleearth it says it is initializing but never starts. If I start it from a console window it complains about a missing DRI extension in X org. I do not see DRI mentioned any where in XOrg.conf. How can I get googleearth working. This is my XOrg.conf: # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Files" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "stylus" Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom" Option "Type" "stylus" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "eraser" Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom" Option "Type" "eraser" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "cursor" Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom" Option "Type" "cursor" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "fglrx" Option "VideoOverlay" "on" Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Generic Video Card" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Modes "1600x1200" "(pitch" "1600)" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" # Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet # InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents" # InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents" # InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents" InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection I hope some one can tell me what is wrong and how to fix it. TIA. -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Kubuntu 7.10 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 17 days 1 hours minutes. From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Fri Nov 9 04:43:10 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:43:10 +0100 Subject: where to put xhosts commands References: <4731E0D2.1000108@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <87k5os81wh.fsf@fjellstad.org> Paul Lemmons writes: > I need to allow several machines to use the x server on my machine. I > have altered kdm.conf and now if I run "xhost +" I can run x > applications from another server. I would like to be a little more > granular that "xhost +" and I don't want to have to type in the commands > every time. On my Fedora box I set up a script in xinit.d. No such > directory exists on Kubuntu. Where would one put a series of xhost > commands so that I can set it up once for all users and forget it? Is > there a better way than xhost? If you are using KDE, just create a script in ~/.kde/Autostart that calls the different xhost commands -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 05:14:17 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 07:14:17 +0200 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <20071109000642.7d5c4b26@graham-desktop> References: <20071108212448.584d3bec@graham-desktop> <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071109000642.7d5c4b26@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <200711090714.17632.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > So you install gimpshop on top of The GIMP? > Exactly. ...it its really only a > piece of coding that displays the menus in Photoshop format. Well blow me down... so that's why it never worked. Duh! \d From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 07:36:03 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:36:03 +0100 Subject: Java on 64 bit Firefox Error : .5 Solved Message-ID: Well, I just ran into this error. You can't use java on 64 bit firefox. Good news is that there is a way to sort of fix this and the bug is known and being worked on. They hope it might be fixed by the next Ubuntu release. sudo apt-get install icedtea-java7-plugin The other way round is to use 32 bit firefox on a 64 bit machine. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jferrando at netplc.com Fri Nov 9 10:35:10 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:35:10 +0100 Subject: WiFi card Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Message-ID: <473437DE.4050001@netplc.com> Hi, I have just bought a Dell Latitude D830 without operating system (Dell does'nt sell Linux in Spain), it has costed me more than the same laptop with Windows Vista, but I though it would be more compatible with Linux that other HP laptops I have bought at my company to delete Vista and reinstall Kubuntu. I have found less compatibility this this laptop that other laptop that the other HP Laptops, in particular: I needed to do "strange things" to enable sound on the laptop https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller (method A worked) Wifi is not working, I can't connect to any access point using knetwork manager or other methods I have tried. The card is: # lspci -v ... 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 1021 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at f9fff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: I have searched about this card and ubuntu and there seem to be plenty of problems. Any idea? -- *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 http://www.netplc.com From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 9 00:39:38 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:39:38 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <200711071915.51069.claydoh@midmaine.com> <14589011.7NqO0ou9Pk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <1272808.Fz5HBySAo6@cedar.serverforest.com> Knapp wrote: >> >> What's the "plus"? Konqueror has adblock. I find it actually interferes >> - >> I keep seeing missing icons, and it turns out they're blocked. >> >> -- >> derek >> > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 > > I really don't know what that plus is. All I can say is that it never > blocks icons for me. What web site, what icons? I would love to test that > out! I also use the auto filter subscriptions to make it work well. Well, whenever I check, the icons (just the standard icon showing a missing image) are really replacing real advertising content - but the problem is that you can't really be sure it's an ad unless you look. I keep worrying that there really was something valuable... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 9 00:29:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:29:39 -0400 Subject: Newby References: <4730B330.000006.03128@HOME-BILL> <200711071437.40636.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BBC4.4000707@bmts.com> <200711071534.23069.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4731BF1C.3080209@bmts.com> <1943106.O0JnT2G1ku@cedar.serverforest.com> <47324391.8060308@virgin.net> <4112362.LiYz2zDqcV@cedar.serverforest.com> <47333AF9.6080804@bmts.com> <1928995.cu3RQKC7Es@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071108212926.79a831f9@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <1354466.Iqepvc58g9@cedar.serverforest.com> Graham wrote: > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:47:28 -0400 > Derek Broughton wrote: > >> > The speed of the >> > program itself, after start, is unnoticeable; at least on a modern >> > machine. >> >> Yes, it's the startup speed that really annoys me. > [snipped] > > What's wrong with using Opera? or if you prefer something minimalist, > try Dillo I confess to not having even checked out opera since the very early versions. As a web browser, I'm sure there's nothing wrong with it - even the first version was impressive - but it isn't the Swiss Army knife that konqueror is :-) -- derek From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Fri Nov 9 12:51:35 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:51:35 +0000 Subject: Googleearth startup problems video In-Reply-To: <200711082011.20613.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200711082011.20613.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <200711091251.35451.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Friday 09 November 2007 01:11:20 Ralph De Witt wrote: > Hi all: > I installed the ATI driver using Envy and googleearth from the medibuntu > repositories. When I try to start googleearth it says it is initializing > but never starts. If I start it from a console window it complains about a > missing DRI extension in X org. I do not see DRI mentioned any where in > XOrg.conf. How can I get googleearth working. This is my XOrg.conf: My xorg.conf contains a Module section: Section "Module" Load "i2c" Load "bitmap" Load "ddc" Load "extmod" Load "freetype" Load "int10" Load "vbe" load "glx" load "v4l" EndSection Perhaps you need to add that section and load the module that Googleearth is asking for. From fareast.1337 at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 13:39:26 2007 From: fareast.1337 at gmail.com (far_east) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 21:39:26 +0800 Subject: WiFi card Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG In-Reply-To: <473437DE.4050001@netplc.com> References: <473437DE.4050001@netplc.com> Message-ID: I'm really surprised that you are having trouble with this card, or your sound card; Intel hardware is the best supported out there. Indeed, when I went shopping for a laptop last year, I insisted that it have this card so that I could use Kubuntu on it. It's difficult to diagnose your problem with some greater degree of specificity--why not stop by the IRC channel #kubuntu on freenode.net and give some more details--this and the sound card issue can surely worked out. On Nov 9, 2007 6:35 PM, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > Hi, > I have just bought a Dell Latitude D830 without operating system (Dell > does'nt sell Linux in Spain), it has costed me more than the same laptop > with Windows Vista, but I though it would be more compatible with Linux > that other HP laptops I have bought at my company to delete Vista and > reinstall Kubuntu. > > I have found less compatibility this this laptop that other laptop that > the other HP Laptops, in particular: > > I needed to do "strange things" to enable sound on the laptop > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller (method A worked) > > Wifi is not working, I can't connect to any access point using knetwork > manager or other methods I have tried. > The card is: > # lspci -v > ... > 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG > Network Connection (rev 02) > Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 1021 > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 > Memory at f9fff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > Capabilities: > > I have searched about this card and ubuntu and there seem to be plenty > of problems. > Any idea? > > -- > *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* > *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* > > Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN > 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España > Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 > http://www.netplc.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- 'I'm rather fond of dogs!' From greenwaldjared at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 13:33:15 2007 From: greenwaldjared at gmail.com (Jared Greenwald) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:33:15 -0500 Subject: WiFi card Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG In-Reply-To: <473437DE.4050001@netplc.com> References: <473437DE.4050001@netplc.com> Message-ID: <2759cf860711090533i76bd6aedqe129af4ade1653c0@mail.gmail.com> I have the same card in my Latitude D620 and it works like a champ... $ sudo lspci -s 0c:00.0 -v 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 1020 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at efdff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [d0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [e0] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0 I've had the system for about a year and I do remember having issues when I first set it up, but that was when I still used Gentoo. Also of note is that on my system there is a switch that enables the wireless communications (wifi & bluetooth) that is on the left side next to the headphone jacks. There are three settings on the switch: off, on and search. I think when I first setup the wireless I needed to play around with the search setting, but since then I just leave it set to "on". (I'm not talking about each time I boot it up, but when I first setup the system.) I actually did recently reinstall the system due to a bad disk and it found the gutsy install cd found the wireless and was able to get updates immediately. The only thing that was ever really "tricky" about setting up this system was getting the display to 1440x900 resolution. Hope that helps. -Jared On Nov 9, 2007 5:35 AM, Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > Hi, > I have just bought a Dell Latitude D830 without operating system (Dell > does'nt sell Linux in Spain), it has costed me more than the same laptop > with Windows Vista, but I though it would be more compatible with Linux > that other HP laptops I have bought at my company to delete Vista and > reinstall Kubuntu. > > I have found less compatibility this this laptop that other laptop that > the other HP Laptops, in particular: > > I needed to do "strange things" to enable sound on the laptop > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller (method A worked) > > Wifi is not working, I can't connect to any access point using knetwork > manager or other methods I have tried. > The card is: > # lspci -v > ... > 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG > Network Connection (rev 02) > Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 1021 > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 > Memory at f9fff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] > Capabilities: > > I have searched about this card and ubuntu and there seem to be plenty > of problems. > Any idea? > > -- > *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* > *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* > > Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN > 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España > Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 > http://www.netplc.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Fri Nov 9 14:13:02 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:13:02 -0600 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can you guys throw me a bone? What I'm trying to do is to edit a conf file to add in USB support for virtualbox ose - I found a tutorial that says to add in a certain line to my fstab so that it will pass along my usb stuff to the vm. (can you tell I'm waaaay out of my league here? ;O ) Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? Vim or something like that? So the line would be "qtsudo (or whatever it is) vim /ect/blah/foo.conf" ? Thanks for the help! Tim From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 14:25:44 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:25:44 +0200 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can you > guys throw me a bone? Toss --> kdesu :) > Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? Kate or Kedit, but vi is good. /d From bootgr at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 14:31:58 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:31:58 -0600 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711090631i7fc5787v1eccc89bb88fed79@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 9, 2007 8:25 AM, Donn wrote: > > I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can you > > guys throw me a bone? > Toss --> kdesu :) > > > Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? > Kate or Kedit, but vi is good. > > /d > vi good! *grunts and swings his caveman club around* But if you want something like, GUI and stuff, then go with Kate's got my vote. From lacsilva at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 14:58:28 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (SILVA Luis) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:58:28 +0100 Subject: Googleearth startup problems video In-Reply-To: <200711091251.35451.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200711082011.20613.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <200711091251.35451.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711091558.29207.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> On Friday, 9 de November de 2007 13:51, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Friday 09 November 2007 01:11:20 Ralph De Witt wrote: > > Hi all: > > I installed the ATI driver using Envy and googleearth from the medibuntu > > repositories. When I try to start googleearth it says it is initializing > > but never starts. If I start it from a console window it complains about > > a missing DRI extension in X org. I do not see DRI mentioned any where in > > XOrg.conf. How can I get googleearth working. This is my XOrg.conf: > > My xorg.conf contains a Module section: > > Section "Module" > Load "i2c" > Load "bitmap" > Load "ddc" > Load "extmod" > Load "freetype" > Load "int10" > Load "vbe" > load "glx" > load "v4l" > EndSection > > Perhaps you need to add that section and load the module that Googleearth > is asking for. Hi! Try adding: load "dri" to your "Module" section and Section "DRI" Group 0 Mode 0666 EndSection to the end of xorg.conf I hope it will help. Luís From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Fri Nov 9 15:01:22 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:01:22 -0600 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711090631i7fc5787v1eccc89bb88fed79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE25F@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> > Toss --> kdesu :) Heh, thanks! I had tried everything with qt - qtsudo, qtsu - haha! > > > Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? > > Kate or Kedit, but vi is good. > > vi good! *grunts and swings his caveman club around* > > But if you want something like, GUI and stuff, then go with Kate's got my > vote. AHH! Thank you!! Can you tell I'm a recent convert from gnome and a newbie to Linux in general? ;P people like you guys make it a lot of fun though, Thanks for the help! Tim From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 15:08:10 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:08:10 +0200 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE25F@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE25F@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711091708.10862.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > AHH! Thank you!! Ah no worries Tim, keep digging for them bones :D \d From turgon at mike-leone.com Fri Nov 9 15:21:56 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:21:56 -0500 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071109152155.GE19509@localhost> Donn (donn.ingle at gmail.com) had this to say on 11/09/07 at 09:21: > > I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can you > > guys throw me a bone? > Toss --> kdesu :) I'm old school - I do this from a command line, with su (not sudo). Yes, I know kubuntu is designed and geared toward not using su. But thanks to the freedom afforded me by Linux to do things My Way(c), I like having a root account with a password, using su, and using aptitude rather than adept (altho sometimes I use it). GUI package managers confuse me more than command-line ones, but that's probably just me ... > > Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? > Kate or Kedit, but vi is good. Well, *my* favorite is joe, in WordStar 2000 mode, but that's just me ... :-) I'd agree, use kdesu and kedit, that is probably quickest for most folks. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 15:45:39 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:45:39 +0200 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <20071109152155.GE19509@localhost> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <20071109152155.GE19509@localhost> Message-ID: <200711091745.39460.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I'm old school - I do this from a command line, with su (not sudo). > I like having a root account with a password, using su, and using aptitude rather than adept I have yakuake hooked to scroll lock and I keep a permanent sudo -i session running for all manner of things. I'm also an aptitude user. Can't stand Adept! As for text, vi always gets used for quick edits, but I find it terribly hard to code in so I go gui for that stuff. \d From darryl.tidd at daaokc.com Fri Nov 9 16:32:14 2007 From: darryl.tidd at daaokc.com (Darryl Tidd) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:32:14 -0600 Subject: Google in Konqueror Message-ID: <200711091032.14316.darryl.tidd@daaokc.com> When I type a search into the google bar on Konqueror and hit enter, a window opens and tells me "Protocol not Supported". Any ideas? D From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 16:56:18 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:56:18 +0200 Subject: Google in Konqueror In-Reply-To: <200711091032.14316.darryl.tidd@daaokc.com> References: <200711091032.14316.darryl.tidd@daaokc.com> Message-ID: <200711091856.18112.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > When I type a search into the google bar on Konqueror and hit enter, a > window opens and tells me "Protocol not Supported". Any ideas? I don't know, but you can try using the address bar too: gg: some search /d From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 21:22:02 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:22:02 +0100 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <200711091745.39460.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <20071109152155.GE19509@localhost> <200711091745.39460.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: I use Vim, Kate and Krusader but I can't believe no one is sticking up for emacs! Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also use the auto filter subscriptions to make it work well. > > Well, whenever I check, the icons (just the standard icon showing a > missing > image) are really replacing real advertising content - but the problem is > that you can't really be sure it's an ad unless you look. I keep worrying > that there really was something valuable... > -- > derek > > After looking more I see that adblock and adblock plus are written by different people. Also Plus has all good ratings and adblock does not. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 21:30:51 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:30:51 -0700 Subject: Any torbutton/privoxy experts here? Message-ID: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> For about a year, torbutton worked perfectly on my 64-bit dapper system. But recently, every attempt to use it has brought up a privoxy screen that says that DNS resolution has failed. Anyone here have enough expertise to help try to figure out whether the problem is with FF, the torbutton extension, tor or privoxy? I _think_ that what changed just before I started to see the problem was that I performed a minor update on FF, but I could easily be wrong. I've spent quite a bit of time looking for some configuration somewhere that's obviously wrong, but it all looks fine to me -- it just doesn't work any more :-( Doc From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 21:51:58 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:51:58 +0200 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091745.39460.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711092351.58822.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I use Vim, Kate and Krusader but I can't believe no one is sticking up for > emacs! Oh -- back away from your keyboard and put the mouse down! :D /d From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 9 22:12:00 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:12:00 +0100 Subject: Any torbutton/privoxy experts here? In-Reply-To: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> References: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711092312.01010.kassube@gmx.net> D. R. Evans wrote: > For about a year, torbutton worked perfectly on my 64-bit dapper > system. > > But recently, every attempt to use it has brought up a privoxy screen > that says that DNS resolution has failed. > > Anyone here have enough expertise to help try to figure out whether the > problem is with FF, the torbutton extension, tor or privoxy? Just an idea: you could try another browser - if the problem persists, it isn't Firefox. Nils From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 23:19:05 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:19:05 -0700 Subject: Any torbutton/privoxy experts here? In-Reply-To: <200711092312.01010.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> <200711092312.01010.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> Nils Kassube said the following at 11/09/2007 03:12 PM : > D. R. Evans wrote: >> For about a year, torbutton worked perfectly on my 64-bit dapper >> system. >> >> But recently, every attempt to use it has brought up a privoxy screen >> that says that DNS resolution has failed. >> >> Anyone here have enough expertise to help try to figure out whether the >> problem is with FF, the torbutton extension, tor or privoxy? > > Just an idea: you could try another browser - if the problem persists, it > isn't Firefox. I have no idea how to use tor/privoxy in another browser. torbutton is supposed to do everything automatically, but of course it only works in FF. Doc From lists at amyl.org.uk Fri Nov 9 23:28:11 2007 From: lists at amyl.org.uk (Adam McGreggor) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:28:11 +0000 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20071109232811.GR17870@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 08:02:01PM -0500, Jim wrote: > Kubuntu-7.10 > How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? don't press 'y'? :) From karlok at fastmail.fm Sat Nov 10 00:34:58 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:34:58 -0800 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4734FCB2.20506@fastmail.fm> Jim wrote: > Kubuntu-7.10 > How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? > Remove the metapackage linux-image-generic. Karl From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 05:13:54 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:13:54 +0200 Subject: Any torbutton/privoxy experts here? In-Reply-To: <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> References: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> <200711092312.01010.kassube@gmx.net> <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711100713.54633.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I have no idea how to use tor/privoxy in another browser. torbutton is > supposed to do everything automatically, but of course it only works in FF. > I think if you go look at the Internet Connection settings in Firefox you should see all the stuff needed to connect to Privoxy. Just copy those into another browser and you can test from there. /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 05:15:00 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:15:00 +0200 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <20071109232811.GR17870@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <20071109232811.GR17870@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> Message-ID: <200711100715.00459.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? > don't press 'y'? :) Heh. But I always thought 'y' stood for "Yo man, I ain't gonna go with that!" :) /d From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Nov 10 06:24:04 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:24:04 -0400 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <200711100715.00459.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <20071109232811.GR17870@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> <200711100715.00459.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711100124.04248.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 10 November 2007, Donn wrote: > > > How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? > > > > don't press 'y'? :) > > Heh. > But I always thought 'y' stood for "Yo man, I ain't gonna go with that!" :) No man, you idiot. Don't they teach you nothin' in South Africa? DO YOU WANT TO ROYALLY HOSE YOUR SYSTEM? (Y/y)? n SYSTEM HOSE INITIATED, DO YOU WISH TO CONTINUE? (Y/y) n SYSTEM HOSE ENGAGED [........................................................] SUCCESS! kernel: Kernel panic: Fatal exception -- D. Michael McIntyre From kassube at gmx.net Sat Nov 10 06:27:17 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:27:17 +0100 Subject: Any torbutton/privoxy experts here? In-Reply-To: <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> References: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> <200711092312.01010.kassube@gmx.net> <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711100727.17260.kassube@gmx.net> D. R. Evans wrote: > Nils Kassube said the following at 11/09/2007 03:12 PM : > > D. R. Evans wrote: > >> For about a year, torbutton worked perfectly on my 64-bit dapper > >> system. > >> > >> But recently, every attempt to use it has brought up a privoxy > >> screen that says that DNS resolution has failed. > >> > >> Anyone here have enough expertise to help try to figure out whether > >> the problem is with FF, the torbutton extension, tor or privoxy? > > > > Just an idea: you could try another browser - if the problem > > persists, it isn't Firefox. > > I have no idea how to use tor/privoxy in another browser. torbutton is > supposed to do everything automatically, but of course it only works in > FF. Ooops - my bad. I didn't really know what torbutton is. I thought it was another proxy between your browser and tor/privoxy. Anyway, at least for privoxy I know that it works as a proxy server listening on a specific port (i think it is 1080, or maybe 8000) on your localhost. I would expect tor to work the same. To setup another browser to use privoxy you would have to find out the port from the documentation. Then use the settings for that browser where you can find something named "internet connection". Usually there are several options like "direct connection to internet" and "manual proxy settings". Select the latter and set it to host = localhost or http://localhost. Usually there is a seperate input area for the port. Set it to the port mentioned in the docs for privoxy or tor. If your browser has no seperate input area use http://localhost:1080 for the host (use the correct port instead of 1080). Nils From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 07:54:28 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:54:28 +0200 Subject: Upgrading GTK+ stuff on Kubunu Dapper Drake Message-ID: <200711100954.29029.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, I haven't the time or bandwidth to install Gutsy. I need Ubuntu and Kubuntu for all the libs they each supply, so it means getting another desktop via aptitude after the initial install -- a task too horrible to imagine right now. Is there any way I can get the latest gnome2 packages installed on my stale old system? I need GTK+ latest, python-gnome2-desktop and friends -- all that stuff. Mainly I want python rsvg which is missing entirely on Dapper. I have backports enabled, but there ain't no new versions coming along. I have tried compiling from sources, but I get into weird knots when trying to compile the latest GTK+. I will try again, but don't want to break Ubuntu-desktop which another user needs (via ssh from a laptop). I know this is the nature of the beast, it's just that I really hope someone will have a recipe. /d From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Nov 10 13:33:03 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:33:03 +0100 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Jim wrote the following on 09.11.2007 02:02 > Kubuntu-7.10 > How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? > Why want someone to block security related fixes to apply to the system? -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From turgon at mike-leone.com Sat Nov 10 14:42:40 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:42:40 -0500 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4735C360.8080002@mike-leone.com> Thilo Six wrote: > Jim wrote the following on 09.11.2007 02:02 >> Kubuntu-7.10 >> How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? >> > > Why want someone to block security related fixes to apply to the system? Because the updates could break other patches you have applied to your system, perhaps. From turgon at mike-leone.com Sat Nov 10 14:44:43 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:44:43 -0500 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <200711100715.00459.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <20071109232811.GR17870@tanqueray.amyl.org.uk> <200711100715.00459.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4735C3DB.8050403@mike-leone.com> Donn wrote: >>> How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? >> don't press 'y'? :) > Heh. > But I always thought 'y' stood for "Yo man, I ain't gonna go with that!" :) That's "I ain't down wid dat, yo!". HTH From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 10 16:07:39 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:07:39 +0200 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <4735C3DB.8050403@mike-leone.com> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <200711100715.00459.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4735C3DB.8050403@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <200711101807.40292.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > But I always thought 'y' stood for "Yo man, I ain't gonna go with that!" > That's "I ain't down wid dat, yo!". Yikes! Ye'right! :) \d From T.Six at gmx.de Sat Nov 10 16:49:02 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:49:02 +0100 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <4735C360.8080002@mike-leone.com> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <4735C360.8080002@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: Mike Leone wrote the following on 10.11.2007 15:42 >>> How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? >>> >> Why want someone to block security related fixes to apply to the system? > > Because the updates could break other patches you have applied to your > system, perhaps. i think someone else is breaking your system when you do not apply the patches provided via *-security. Remember, at last with the announce as USN they are widely known. imho in that case there is no way around to apply your personal patches again (against the "newly" released linux-source package from the USN) bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Sat Nov 10 16:55:52 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:55:52 +0000 Subject: Any torbutton/privoxy experts here? In-Reply-To: <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> References: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> <200711092312.01010.kassube@gmx.net> <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071110165552.0f1e7900@graham-desktop> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:19:05 -0700 "D. R. Evans" wrote: > I have no idea how to use tor/privoxy in another browser. torbutton is > supposed to do everything automatically, but of course it only works > in FF. > > Doc That is incorrect. I have no knowledge of Tor but Privoxy runs as a server and can be used by any application that connects via port 80 (such as browsers), if you want it to do so. The default address and port you connect to in Privoxy is 127.0.0.1:8118. You ALWAYS connect to 127.0.0.1 but the port number of 8118 is set in the config file, which in my case (on gutsy) is /etc/privoxy/config Privoxy will filter http:// (ordinary) and https:// (secure) sites, but no other protocols. So no matter what browser you have (Konqueror, Firefox, Opera, Dillo, etc) and you want to go with the default, set your browser to connect with 127.0.0.1 at port 8118, then take out the usual restrictions to 127.0.0.1 and localhost, otherwise no server connecting to 127.0.0.1 will work. I suggest then you reboot to see if Privoxy runs as a server when you try and connect sites with your browser. Try http://www.piptalk.com/ to see if the ads at the top are taken out by Privoxy. If# not,reinstall Privoxy through apt-get and be sure to reboot afterwards. It should then work. As an additional guard, I suggest you download the hosts text file from http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm copy it and addit beneath the existing text in /etc/hosts, but with one amendment. Look for the first line with 127.0.0.1 localhost which is uncommented (has a # before it) and turn it into # 127.0.0.1 localhost so that it is commented. you don't need this as you have a reference to this address above. HTH - -- Graham Todd -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Please sign and encrypt for internet privacy iD8DBQFHNeK2thMHx1h/UZYRApp0AKCBBkwW1Y4ZHeTenhlMGYTsjyhmPQCghuyc 7dYLSmi/v7Q/KdRyC9Ze5PA= =Djuo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux_milano at yahoo.it Sat Nov 10 22:50:13 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (pol) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:50:13 +0100 Subject: cannot suspend travelmate290 Message-ID: Suspend to disk and suspend to ram do not work on my acer travelmate 290, with freshly installed kubuntu gutsy (kernel linux-generic 2.6.22.14.21 installed with linux-restricted-modules-generic) Both kpowersave and kde-guidance-powermanager lock the sceeen rather than suspending. Kpowersave settings reports that cpu scaling is not supported. But travelmate290 is centrino based laptop, therefore cpu scaling is supported by the hardware, isn't it? Any missing packages? Thank you -- Pol From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 06:32:23 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:32:23 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy and kmix volume Message-ID: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Okay, okay, I did it. I've got Gutsy installed and I'm suffering all the usual "moving-in" stuff. I may post a few questions from here, but this one is about sound. My kmix icon has no effect on overall volume. I can't mouse-wheel over it to inc/dec the volume and mute does nothing. It seems, from my kmix settings (and alsamixer) that "PCM" is controlling the master volume. How can I change that to one of the others (like 3D surround) that seems to respond? Or, how can I change things so that PCM works as expected? Halp! :) \d From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 06:53:10 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:53:10 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy and kmix volume In-Reply-To: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711102253j216074c4ud3646ef87aad0b3d@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 11, 2007 1:32 AM, Donn wrote: > Okay, okay, I did it. I've got Gutsy installed and I'm suffering all the > usual "moving-in" stuff. I may post a few questions from here, but this one > is about sound. > > My kmix icon has no effect on overall volume. I can't mouse-wheel over it to > inc/dec the volume and mute does nothing. > > It seems, from my kmix settings (and alsamixer) that "PCM" is controlling the > master volume. How can I change that to one of the others (like 3D surround) > that seems to respond? Or, how can I change things so that PCM works as > expected? > > > Halp! :) > > > \d It seems like I remember seeing a "Set Master Channel" or some such option when right-clicking the Kmix icon. Check it out and see if it works for you. HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 07:04:47 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:04:47 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy and kmix volume In-Reply-To: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711110904.47827.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > It seems, from my kmix settings (and alsamixer) that "PCM" is controlling > the master volume. How can I change that to one of the others (like 3D > surround) that seems to respond? Or, how can I change things so that PCM > works as expected? > Got it. Jeez... You right-click the kmix icon and choose "select master channel". Man, that's bad design. I scoured kmix for something like that, but it's not in the rest of the interface. Anyway. That's sorted. \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 07:13:43 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:13:43 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy and kmix volume In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711102253j216074c4ud3646ef87aad0b3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9bed467e0711102253j216074c4ud3646ef87aad0b3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711110913.43352.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > It seems like I remember seeing a "Set Master Channel" or some such > option when right-clicking the Kmix icon. Check it out and see if it > works for you. Yeah, I just found it. It's not logical and I only found it by mistake! \d From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Nov 11 09:44:39 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:44:39 +0200 Subject: Adding boot options? In-Reply-To: <65241ce50711080433s66f6f4f2w8efd2662858661d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4732AC04.8070203@rmk.co.il> <200711080920.04359.kassube@gmx.net> <65241ce50711080433s66f6f4f2w8efd2662858661d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4736CF07.8070408@rmk.co.il> Andrew Zajac wrote: > On Nov 8, 2007 3:20 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Search for the line >> >> # kopt=root= ro >> >> and put your extra boot parameter at the end of the line. Then it looks >> like this: >> >> # kopt=root= ro apci=force >> >> Now search for lines starting with >> >> kernel /boot/vmlinuz- >> >> and put your extra boot parameter at the end of all these lines also. >> > > You don't need to do the second step. Just save the file and run > > sudo update-grub > > and it will be done for you. That's what the kopt line is for! > > az > Thanks guys - worked a treat :-) Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 10:27:02 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:27:02 +0200 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables Message-ID: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, I want to run an iptables command to allow my other machine to surf through my Kubuntu box. I used to put this into /etc/networking/netshare, but I can't recall how it got run exactly. How do I set this up on Gutsy (I don't savvy upstart yet) so it runs soon after the network interfaces have come to life? \d From mdwaps at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 10:37:12 2007 From: mdwaps at gmail.com (Manpreet Dhillon) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:37:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Deleted menu.lst Message-ID: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> What to do now! My menu.lst file which contain the info about every boot option got deleted somehow. I don't have Windows, now I can't boot. What to do? I'm using Feisty Fawn. _____________________________ Sent from my phone using flurry - Get free mobile email and news at: http://www.flurry.com From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 10:45:52 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:45:52 +0200 Subject: Deleted menu.lst In-Reply-To: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> References: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> Message-ID: <200711111245.52479.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > What to do now! My menu.lst file which contain the info about every boot > option got deleted somehow. I don't have Windows, now I can't boot. What to > do? I'm using Feisty Fawn. _____________________________ We can try: 1. Boot somehow -- from another O/S hard drive, or from a Live CD 2. Make the file from scratch. And any others. 3. Try to boot. 4. Goto 1 I attach my own menu.lst in case it helps you. Print it out and type it in manually. Or search the live cd -- it may have one already! However, if grub has been damaged on your actual boot sector, then I don't know what else to do. I'm sure there is a way to fix it even then, but you'll have to find a pro. hth \d -------------- next part -------------- # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8) # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8), # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/. ## default num # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used. # # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'. # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your # array will desync and will not let you boot your system. default 0 ## timeout sec # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry # (normally the first entry defined). timeout 3 ## hiddenmenu # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu) hiddenmenu # Pretty colours #color cyan/blue white/blue ## password ['--md5'] passwd # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing # control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the # command 'lock' # e.g. password topsecret # password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/ # password topsecret # # examples # # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000 # root (hd0,0) # makeactive # chainloader +1 # # title Linux # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro # # # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs ## ## Start Default Options ## ## default kernel options ## default kernel options for automagic boot options ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted. ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro # kopt=root=UUID=f6c01ced-96e3-43d6-a824-deaae407f609 ro noapic ## Setup crashdump menu entries ## e.g. crashdump=1 # crashdump=0 ## default grub root device ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0) # groot=(hd0,0) ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. alternative=true ## alternative=false # alternative=true ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. lockalternative=true ## lockalternative=false # lockalternative=false ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the ## alternatives ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 # defoptions=quiet splash ## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options ## e.g. lockold=false ## lockold=true # lockold=false ## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option # xenhopt= ## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option # xenkopt=console=tty0 ## altoption boot targets option ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options ## altoptions=(recovery) single # altoptions=(recovery mode) single ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the ## alternative kernel options ## e.g. howmany=all ## howmany=7 # howmany=all ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option ## e.g. memtest86=true ## memtest86=false # memtest86=true ## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system ## can be true or false # updatedefaultentry=false ## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options ## can be true or false # savedefault=false ## ## End Default Options ## title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=f6c01ced-96e3-43d6-a824-deaae407f609 ro noapic quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic quiet title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=f6c01ced-96e3-43d6-a824-deaae407f609 ro noapic single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+ root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin quiet ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sun Nov 11 12:53:24 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:53:24 +0000 Subject: Deleted menu.lst In-Reply-To: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> References: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> Message-ID: <4736FB44.2000708@stdin.me.uk> Manpreet Dhillon wrote: > What to do now! My menu.lst file which contain the info about every boot option got deleted somehow. I don't have Windows, now I can't boot. What to do? I'm using Feisty Fawn. > _____________________________ > Sent from my phone using flurry - Get free mobile email and news at: http://www.flurry.com > > If grub is still installed then just boot from the liveCD, mount your root partition chroot into it and run "grub-install". It should be this procedure: sudo -i mount /dev/sda1 /mnt chroot /mnt update-grub exit Then you can check the file in /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst and see if it looks right. After that you should be able to boot normally. Terence From bach.michael at gmx.net Sun Nov 11 13:02:04 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:02:04 +0100 Subject: Deleted menu.lst In-Reply-To: <200711111245.52479.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> <200711111245.52479.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4736FD4C.2070302@gmx.net> Donn wrote: >> What to do now! My menu.lst file which contain the info about every boot >> option got deleted somehow. I don't have Windows, now I can't boot. What to >> do? I'm using Feisty Fawn. _____________________________ > > We can try: > 1. Boot somehow -- from another O/S hard drive, or from a Live CD > 2. Make the file from scratch. And any others. > 3. Try to boot. > 4. Goto 1 > > I attach my own menu.lst in case it helps you. Print it out and type it in > manually. Or search the live cd -- it may have one already! > > However, if grub has been damaged on your actual boot sector, then I don't > know what else to do. I'm sure there is a way to fix it even then, but you'll > have to find a pro. > > hth > \d > The idea of a menu.lst as a template is in general a good idea. It will reduce the amount of time creating a menu.lst from scratch. However, a few modifications are required to make grub booting the system: Booting from a live-cd is probably required to get the uuid of the boot partition. The root partition needs to be hd0,0 as well. In addition acpi support is switched off. Depending on hardware an its capabilities, this could be switched on. Even more, Manpreet said in his initial post he uses feisty, so adaption is required to take care of a likely different kernel image he uses. Mike From knightlust at ubuntu.com Sun Nov 11 13:25:14 2007 From: knightlust at ubuntu.com (Dax Solomon Umaming) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:25:14 +0800 Subject: Deleted menu.lst In-Reply-To: <4736FB44.2000708@stdin.me.uk> References: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> <4736FB44.2000708@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200711112125.19365.knightlust@ubuntu.com> On Sunday 11 November 2007 8:53:24 pm Terence Simpson wrote: > If grub is still installed then just boot from the liveCD, mount your > root partition chroot into it and run "grub-install". What if /home and /var are on a separate partition, do we also have to mount it? And should we mount it from the chroot(ed) session? or can I mount it from a live cd. Thanks -- Dax Solomon Umaming http://knightlust.com/ GPG: 0x715C3547 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From dreadgeek at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 14:53:42 2007 From: dreadgeek at gmail.com (Adrienne J Davis) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:53:42 -0800 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091745.39460.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711110653.48948.dreadgeek@gmail.com> On Friday 09 November 2007 13:22:02 Knapp wrote: > I use Vim, Kate and Krusader but I can't believe no one is sticking up for > emacs! That's only because Emacs is so self-evidently the One True Editor (tm) that all Right Thinking geeks find it amazing that anyone would use six (vi) for anything other than the most brief edits. That said, I do use Kate and I rather like it. Emacs is my preferred editor for most things. I use Konqueror for a file manager and Synaptic for a package manager. 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URL: From bach.michael at gmx.net Sun Nov 11 15:46:39 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:46:39 +0100 Subject: Deleted menu.lst In-Reply-To: <200711112125.19365.knightlust@ubuntu.com> References: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> <4736FB44.2000708@stdin.me.uk> <200711112125.19365.knightlust@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <473723DF.4000104@gmx.net> Dax Solomon Umaming wrote: > On Sunday 11 November 2007 8:53:24 pm Terence Simpson wrote: >> If grub is still installed then just boot from the liveCD, mount your >> root partition chroot into it and run "grub-install". > > What if /home and /var are on a separate partition, do we also have to mount > it? And should we mount it from the chroot(ed) session? or can I mount it >>from a live cd. > > Thanks > Separate partitions (for /home and /var) should not be an issue at pre-boot time. During system boot process however, this information becomes relevant and is then read from /etc/fstab. Mike From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Nov 11 16:11:07 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:11:07 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy and kmix volume In-Reply-To: <200711110913.43352.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9bed467e0711102253j216074c4ud3646ef87aad0b3d@mail.gmail.com> <200711110913.43352.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711111111.08051.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 11 November 2007, Donn wrote: > > It seems like I remember seeing a "Set Master Channel" or some such > > option when right-clicking the Kmix icon. Check it out and see if it > > works for you. > > Yeah, I just found it. It's not logical and I only found it by mistake! > > \d I don't see any such setting here. Where is the icon when you right click it? On the desktop? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Nov 11 16:18:10 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:18:10 -0500 Subject: Deleted menu.lst In-Reply-To: <200711112125.19365.knightlust@ubuntu.com> References: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> <4736FB44.2000708@stdin.me.uk> <200711112125.19365.knightlust@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <200711111118.10684.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 11 November 2007, Dax Solomon Umaming wrote: > On Sunday 11 November 2007 8:53:24 pm Terence Simpson wrote: > > If grub is still installed then just boot from the liveCD, mount your > > root partition chroot into it and run "grub-install". > > What if /home and /var are on a separate partition, do we also have to > mount it? And should we mount it from the chroot(ed) session? or can I > mount it from a live cd. > > Thanks You would also have to mount /boot once you have chroot'd in order to install grub and a new menu.lst in /boot/grub (this assumes /boot is on a different partition than '/') From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 11 16:28:38 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:28:38 -0600 Subject: missing plugins In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> References: <47301AB2.7060706@mail.ee> <200711061640.47309.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <720b310e0711060850s5e6493dbj430b2b463ff14dfd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Don, Fraser...and all the other gentlemen i didn't mention, just want to thank you all for the help.... I can say i'm fast learning my new found OS, However, i do still have some more questions for u all. I got this IBM think pad laptop the x86 family 6 model 8 step ffrom a friend and i want to install the kubuntu on it and I'm running into this probs. I tried to run the live Cd on, it runs displays the kubuntu inital screen with the progression bar and i'd chose the first option and then it will continue with errors such as Buffer I/O error on device sro, logical block 48067,48079....the labtop came with win 2000 on it and i'm trying to get ride of the win2000 off it.. but can't seem to be able to format the disk any suggestions... thanks in advance guys. "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:50:08 -0600 > From: bootgr at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: missing plugins > > On 11/6/07, Mark Fraser wrote: >> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 07:41:38 Edmund Laugasson wrote: >>>> hello! community, I'm unable to watch videos using Firefox browser it >>>> complains about missing plugins, i've read some postings on this issue >>>> and even tried using adobe flash to no success i'll really appreciate >>>> any input on this issue and perhaps a walk-through on how to install the >>>> tar..gz I'm using the Kubuntu 7.10 feisty. I'm still new with this OS and >>>> I find it very interesting so far, i'm a windows user transitioning to >>>> Linux. >>> >>> 1) Add the Medibuntu repository - >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - see the chapter "Adding the >>> Repositories" >> >> >>> >>> Now if you go to somewhere and would like to see embedded videos, >>> mplayerplug-in should do the trick. Also you may during video playback make >>> right mouse click on the video and gain access to mplayerplug-in settings. >>> On right bottom corner you may see small button, which gives the >>> opportunity to switch full screen mode. You may also try usual mplayer >>> keyboard shortcuts. Also see the man mplayer page for further instructions >>> and possibilities. >> >> I'd managed to get most of the plugins working apart from one - RealPlayer - >> any tips on installing it? I just get a blank box when I try to view the >> videos on the BBC's website. > > Tried > > sudo apt-get install mozilla-helix-player > > yet ? > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Sun Nov 11 16:42:00 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:42:00 +0100 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) Message-ID: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, i want to backup my email messages (to an external usb hd). What is the best way to do this. Cani use something like rsync? Regards, Karl From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 17:07:30 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:07:30 -0500 Subject: Kubuntu Gutsy and kmix volume In-Reply-To: <200711111111.08051.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <200711110832.24048.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9bed467e0711102253j216074c4ud3646ef87aad0b3d@mail.gmail.com> <200711110913.43352.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711111111.08051.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711110907n3bf996dfx5f4a4b834904000@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 11, 2007 11:11 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Sunday 11 November 2007, Donn wrote: > > > It seems like I remember seeing a "Set Master Channel" or some such > > > option when right-clicking the Kmix icon. Check it out and see if it > > > works for you. > > > > Yeah, I just found it. It's not logical and I only found it by mistake! > > > > \d > > I don't see any such setting here. Where is the icon when you right click > it? On the desktop? The icon is the image of a speaker in the system tray (bottom right). Just right-click the speaker and you should see the option. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Nov 11 17:11:12 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:11:12 -0400 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 11 November 2007, Karl wrote: > i want to backup my email messages (to an external usb hd). > What is the best way to do this. > Cani use something like rsync? Rsync would work fine. Everything you need should be in the ~/Mail directory, so it's pretty straightforward. There are a lot of ways to get there, so it's hard to say which is the best. I have a nightly backup script that has this syntax at its heart: rsync -uax --delete $source_directory $backup_directory -- D. Michael McIntyre From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Sun Nov 11 18:05:35 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:05:35 +0000 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> On Sunday 11 Nov 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > I have a nightly backup script that has this syntax at its heart: > > rsync -uax --delete $source_directory $backup_directory I prefer not to have the --delete option script running automatically. If something gets deleted by accident and doesn't get noticed, when the --delete script runs it's gone from the backup copy too. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From cschult at gmx.de Sun Nov 11 19:55:08 2007 From: cschult at gmx.de (Christian Schult) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:55:08 +0100 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <20071111195508.GA25246@jazz.cocis.de> Hi David, * David Fletcher : > On Sunday 11 Nov 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > > > I have a nightly backup script that has this syntax at its heart: > > > > rsync -uax --delete $source_directory $backup_directory > > I prefer not to have the --delete option script running automatically. If > something gets deleted by accident and doesn't get noticed, when the --delete > script runs it's gone from the backup copy too. I use rsnapshot for backup on secondary harddisk. It takes incremental backups and uses hard links - so it looks like a full backup every hour, day, week or month, but indeed the same file only exist once in the whole backup. To restore simply use cp. I run it in a script which mounts the backup harddisk read only afterwards, so a user can restore files himself. Christian From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Nov 11 20:19:46 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:19:46 -0400 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> Message-ID: <200711111519.46693.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 11 November 2007, David Fletcher wrote: > I prefer not to have the --delete option script running automatically. If > something gets deleted by accident and doesn't get noticed, when the > --delete script runs it's gone from the backup copy too. Yes, you're absolutely right, and it's good of you to point this out for anyone following my suggestion. I've chosen this compromise on purpose, but the risk you describe is real. -- D. Michael McIntyre From kassube at gmx.net Sun Nov 11 20:29:18 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:29:18 +0100 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711112129.18814.kassube@gmx.net> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 11 November 2007, Karl wrote: > > i want to backup my email messages (to an external usb hd). > > What is the best way to do this. > > Cani use something like rsync? > > Rsync would work fine. Everything you need should be in the ~/Mail > directory, so it's pretty straightforward. If it is a recent KDE installation, mail is stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail and not in ~/Mail. Nils From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 11 21:45:02 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:45:02 -0600 Subject: prob installing gusty on IBM think pad T21 Message-ID: Don, Fraser...and all the other gentlemen i didn't mention, just want to thank you all for the help.... I can say i'm fast learning my new found OS, However, i do still have some more questions for u all. I got this IBM think pad laptop the x86 family 6 model 8 step ffrom a friend and i want to install the kubuntu on it and I'm running into this probs. I tried to run the live Cd on, it runs displays the kubuntu inital screen with the progression bar and i'd chose the first option and then it will continue with errors such as Buffer I/O error on device sro, logical block 48067,48079....the labtop came with win 2000 on it and i'm trying to get ride of the win2000 off it.. but can't seem to be able to format the disk any suggestions... thanks in advance guys. "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" From kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net Sun Nov 11 22:19:54 2007 From: kubuntu-users at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:19:54 +0000 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <200711111519.46693.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <200711111519.46693.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711112219.54947.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> On Sunday 11 Nov 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 11 November 2007, David Fletcher wrote: > > I prefer not to have the --delete option script running automatically. If > > something gets deleted by accident and doesn't get noticed, when the > > --delete script runs it's gone from the backup copy too. > > Yes, you're absolutely right, and it's good of you to point this out for > anyone following my suggestion. > > I've chosen this compromise on purpose, but the risk you describe is real. > -- > D. Michael McIntyre > I've set up "my" server at work to grab a backup of the home directory from the engineering server each night, using rsync. The script that runs automatically with cron hasn't got the --delete option. I have a similar script which does have the --delete option, that I run manually from time to time to purge everything that's no longer needed. Is there any time delay or "older than" option to delete? Just thinking out loud. I'll have to read the manual again. Dave -- Registered Linux user number 393408 I use and recommend the email service at 1 & 1 For domain registration, email and web hosting please visit: http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=6389763 From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Nov 11 22:20:08 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:20:08 -0500 Subject: prob installing gusty on IBM think pad T21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711111720.08762.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday 11 November 2007, ndemalia armstrong wrote: > Don, Fraser...and all the other gentlemen i didn't mention, just want to > thank you all for the help.... I can say i'm fast learning my new found OS, > However, i do still have some more questions for u all. I got this IBM > think pad laptop the x86 family 6 model 8 step ffrom a friend and i want to > install the kubuntu on it and I'm running into this probs. I tried to run > the live Cd on, it runs displays the kubuntu inital screen with the > progression bar and i'd chose the first option and then it will continue > with errors such as Buffer I/O error on device sro, logical block > 48067,48079....the labtop came with win 2000 on it and i'm trying to get > ride of the win2000 off it.. but can't seem to be able to format the disk > any suggestions... thanks in advance guys. > > > "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" What I see from the error msg is that there was an error on the CD.... From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 11 22:34:05 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:34:05 -0500 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <4734FCB2.20506@fastmail.fm> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <4734FCB2.20506@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <4737835D.7040500@sbcglobal.net> Karl wrote: > Jim wrote: > >> Kubuntu-7.10 >> How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? >> >> > Remove the metapackage linux-image-generic. > > Karl > > Where in Kubuntu is the ? metapackage linux-image-generic. From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 22:49:05 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:49:05 -0600 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <4735C360.8080002@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <200711111649.05996.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Saturday 10 November 2007 10:49:02 am Thilo Six wrote: > Mike Leone wrote the following on 10.11.2007 15:42 > > >>> How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? > >> > >> Why want someone to block security related fixes to apply to the system? > > > > Because the updates could break other patches you have applied to your > > system, perhaps. > > i think someone else is breaking your system when you do not apply the > patches provided via *-security. > Remember, at last with the announce as USN they are widely known. > > imho in that case there is no way around to apply your personal patches > again (against the "newly" released linux-source package from the USN) > > > bye > -- > Thilo > > key: 0x4A411E09 There are times when specialized drivers, such as Storage, or other hardware, has only been tested with a specific kernel release. Due to that, it is advantageous on Servers to block kernel updates until you have had a chance to test them and recompile the drivers, etc. You may also need to get buy in for a kernel update from a vendor, whose app was only certified on a specific rev level. You also may be running a customized kernel and don't want the pre-compiled version from security. There are lots of reasons a specific application may need to be blocked from autoupdates. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From macariov at gmail.com Sun Nov 11 22:57:58 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (Macario Valle) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:57:58 -0500 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <4737835D.7040500@sbcglobal.net> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <4734FCB2.20506@fastmail.fm> <4737835D.7040500@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1194821878.15659.10.camel@mvalle-desktop.carolina.rr.com> On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 17:34 -0500, Jim wrote: > Karl wrote: > > Jim wrote: > > > >> Kubuntu-7.10 > >> How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? > >> > >> > > Remove the metapackage linux-image-generic. > > > > Karl > > > Where in Kubuntu is the ? > > metapackage linux-image-generic. > Kubuntu is just really the theme. (KX?)ubuntu is really the a colection of distros sharing the same core files. From infopipe at gmx.net Mon Nov 12 06:39:07 2007 From: infopipe at gmx.net (Bernhard Breinbauer) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:39:07 +0100 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <200711112129.18814.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711112129.18814.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711120739.11698.infopipe@gmx.net> On Sunday 11 November 2007 wrote Nils Kassube: > D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > On Sunday 11 November 2007, Karl wrote: > > > i want to backup my email messages (to an external usb hd). > > > What is the best way to do this. > > > Cani use something like rsync? > > > > Rsync would work fine. Everything you need should be in the ~/Mail > > directory, so it's pretty straightforward. > > If it is a recent KDE installation, mail is stored in > ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail and not in ~/Mail. Well it depends. If you have a ~/Mail directory (from previous kmail installations) it will be used by kmail. If not ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail is used. bernhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 07:52:29 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:52:29 +0200 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Any hints? :) ... \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 07:55:04 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:55:04 +0200 Subject: d4x download manager broken in Gutsy Message-ID: <200711120955.04843.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi, Anyone here use d4x? It's binary is named 'nt', for some reason, and it's a really neat download manager. I used it all the time (hand in hand with Flashget and Firefox) on Dapper, but on Gutsy it looks like it's broken. I'm not sure of where I can go to report the problem - please steer me. I've taken to using kget now, but I never really liked it. Are there better ones out there? \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 08:01:56 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:01:56 +0200 Subject: Gutsy and aptitude Message-ID: <200711121001.56445.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Hi again, I decided to use aptitude from the earliest possible point in my new Gutsy install. As soon as I could, I used it to update and safe-upgrade. I am now getting this message every time I install something: The following packages have been kept back: libstreamanalyzer0 The little Adept notifier icon is always on showing a new package waiting and it's that same package. How can I resolve this? \d From kassube at gmx.net Mon Nov 12 08:10:01 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:01 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711120910.01063.kassube@gmx.net> Donn wrote: > Any hints? > > :) ... /etc/rc.local maybe. Nils From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 09:00:14 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:00:14 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: Donn, I often find when I don't know how something basic to Linux works and there are no instructions in Ubuntu because it is something the Devs work with, then often the best place to learn is to go to Gentoo Linux and read what they have about that subject. Remember thought that the Ubuntu Devs may have done it in some other way but the under lying ideas are the same. Douglas On Nov 12, 2007 8:52 AM, Donn wrote: > Any hints? > > :) ... > > \d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 09:09:15 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:09:15 +0200 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711121109.16042.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > with, then often the best place to learn is to go to Gentoo Linux and read Ouch. I know I've prob. gotta go far afield, but I thought I'd try the easy route first! \d From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 09:16:09 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:16:09 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: <200711121109.16042.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711121109.16042.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: LOL, reading a bit of the Gentoo docs is not that bad and often very easy. :-) Douglas On Nov 12, 2007 10:09 AM, Donn wrote: > > with, then often the best place to learn is to go to Gentoo Linux and > read > Ouch. I know I've prob. gotta go far afield, but I thought I'd try the > easy > route first! > > \d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juergen.sauer at automatix.de Mon Nov 12 10:44:36 2007 From: juergen.sauer at automatix.de (Juergen Sauer) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:44:36 +0100 Subject: Where is the eth* config gone in gusty ? Message-ID: <200711121144.37049.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Moin, after upgrading to gusty the network interfaces were "jumped" away. Physical devices were eth0 ... eth2. After Gusty upgrade those are eth3... and it seems, that /etc/iftab is ignored since. ;-> Any idea, what's going on there ? Where is the lsb compliance gone ? TIA J. Sauer -- Jürgen Sauer - automatiX GmbH, +49-4209-4699, juergen.sauer at automatix.de Das Linux Systemhaus - Service - Support - Server - Lösungen Geschäftsführer (Managing Director): Jürgen Sauer, Gerichtstand: Amtsgericht Walsrode • HRB 120986 Ust-Id: DE191468481 • St.Nr.: 36/201/14198 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From juergen.sauer at automatix.de Mon Nov 12 10:40:56 2007 From: juergen.sauer at automatix.de (Juergen Sauer) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:40:56 +0100 Subject: Installing Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <47320228.8030600@sbcglobal.net> References: <47320228.8030600@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200711121140.56529.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Am Mittwoch, 7. November 2007 schrieb Jim: > Where is a good howto to install Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu-7.10 ?? IMHO is VmWare quite Tricky and may force an nasty effort to make it running. (See: proprietary driver modules have to be compiled) We used vmware vor more than two years, but the efforts to keep it running are ugly. So we switched over to VirtualBox - http://www.virtualbox.org Since then everything works nearly fine and in good performance (refer to the USB Thread). The Virtual Box package for Gusty and Dapper are working out-of-the-Box like a charm. Innotek made a good job ;->> mfG J. Sauer -- Jürgen Sauer - automatiX GmbH, +49-4209-4699, juergen.sauer at automatix.de Das Linux Systemhaus - Service - Support - Server - Lösungen Geschäftsführer (Managing Director): Jürgen Sauer, Gerichtstand: Amtsgericht Walsrode • HRB 120986 Ust-Id: DE191468481 • St.Nr.: 36/201/14198 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Neil Winchurst From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 12:34:45 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:34:45 +0200 Subject: Gutsy and aptitude In-Reply-To: <3dde113c0711120427s6bbd684bn2979827655597f7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711121001.56445.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <3dde113c0711120427s6bbd684bn2979827655597f7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711121434.45181.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > aptitude dist-upgrade Sweet, you little beauty :) \d From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Mon Nov 12 13:38:30 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:38:30 -0500 Subject: nspluginviewer Message-ID: <200711120838.31234.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I've been getting repeated crashes of nspluginviewer on a nw Gutsy install. The crash handler is reporting signal 11 (SIGSEGV), with the backtrace as follows: (no debugging symbols found) Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1". (no debugging symbols found) ... (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1233279296 (LWP 6149)] (no debugging symbols found) ... (no debugging symbols found) [KCrash handler] #6 0xb65a9100 in Program::runFrame () from /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 #7 0xb65a9577 in Program::nestedMovie () from /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 #8 0xb659f9dd in DisplayList::updateSprites () from /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 #9 0xb659f9ad in DisplayList::updateSprites () from /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 #10 0xb65a944d in Program::processMovie () from /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 #11 0xb65a88c8 in FlashMovie::processMovie () from /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 #12 0xb65a0700 in FlashExec () from /usr/lib/libflash.so.0 #13 0xb6647d2d in ?? () from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so #14 0x080de230 in ?? () #15 0x00000001 in ?? () #16 0xbff6968c in ?? () #17 0x08164994 in ?? () #18 0xbff69738 in ?? () #19 0x00001805 in ?? () #20 0x00000000 in ?? () Any ideas what's happening or how to fix? Paul From jferrando at netplc.com Mon Nov 12 14:26:14 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:26:14 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: <200711120910.01063.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711120952.29964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711120910.01063.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47386286.7010808@netplc.com> Hi Donn: Create a file in /etc/init.d with the adapted contents of my firewall file. Then $ sudo update-rc.d iptables_tc defaults netplc at routerlinux:~/scripts$ cat iptables_tc #!/bin/sh # # iptables_tc - ipables/tc init script # # Written by Jordi Ferrando, 2005-2007 # Debian.etch # jferrando at netplc.com TC="/sbin/tc" IPTABLES="/sbin/iptables" start() { echo "Starting outbound shaping..." # Reset everything to a known state (cleared) #flush de reglas $IPTABLES -F $IPTABLES -X $IPTABLES -Z $IPTABLES -t nat -F #Borrar clase entera $TC qdisc del dev eth1 root #Router linux con firewall y traffic shaping #(c)NETPLC, J.Ferrando, Ene-2005/1-Dic-2005 #Interfaz eth1 192.168.5.2/255.255.255.0 (to ADSL router) # eth0 10.54.8.2/255.255.255.0 (10.54.8.0/24, LAN) #Default gateway 192.168.5.1 #DNS servers: 80.58.61.250 / 80.58.61.254 (telefonica) #-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #DNAT tables #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p udp --dport 1194 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.7 #http tcp/80 #vnc client tcp/5400 y tcp/5500 #ip "genérica" #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5400 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.170 #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5500 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.170 #porthector vnc client iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5400 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.72 iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5500 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.72 iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.72 #portjordi vnc client #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5400 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.134 #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5500 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.134 #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.134 #portraul vnc client #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5400 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.138 #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5500 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.138 #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.5.2 -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DNAT --to 10.54.8.138 #ROUTER SNAT para la LAN iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface eth1 -j MASQUERADE #---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #Firewall red 10.54.8.0/24 (eth0) #Dejamos entrar y pasar todo el tráfico iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.8.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.9.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.8.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.9.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -j ACCEPT #Conexiones establecidas y relacionadas iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT #Política por defecto INPUT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP #Política por defecto FORWARD iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j DROP #----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #eth1 -> Puerta de entrada #ssh (tcp/22) #iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT #iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT #iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT #http (tcp/80) #iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT #openvpn (udp/1194) #iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -p udp --dport 1194 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -j DROP #Dejamos que "pasen" los forwards del exterior, ya que por fuerza deben ser de conexiones #previamente establecidas iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -j ACCEPT echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward #tc "Traffic Control" #This command attaches queue discipline HTB to eth1 and gives it the "handle" 1:0 #This is just a name or identifier with which to refer to it below. The default 20 means that #any traffic that is not otherwise classified will be assigned to class 1:20 tc qdisc add dev eth1 root handle 1:0 htb default 20 tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:0 classid 1:1 htb rate 276kbit ceil 276kbit prio 1 burst 32k cburst 3200 tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:5 htb rate 184kbit ceil 276kbit prio 5 burst 16k cburst 1600 tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 128kbit ceil 276kbit prio 10 burst 8k cburst 800 tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:15 htb rate 64kbit ceil 196kbit prio 15 burst 4k cburst 400 tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 32kbit ceil 128kbit prio 20 burst 2k cburst 200 tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:25 htb rate 16kbit ceil 32kbit prio 25 burst 256 cburst 100 # tc qdisc add dev eth1 parent 1:5 handle 5:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth1 parent 1:10 handle 10:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth1 parent 1:15 handle 15:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth1 parent 1:20 handle 20:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth1 parent 1:25 handle 25:0 sfq perturb 10 #LAN privileges #iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -s 10.54.8.0/24 -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 20 #iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -s 10.54.8.0/24 -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 20 #iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -s 10.54.8.0/24 -i eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 20 #iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -s 10.54.8.0/24 -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 20 #Privileged computers (Whitelist) #iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth1 --source 192.168.7.2 -j MARK --set-mark 10 #iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth0 -o eth1 --source 10.54.8.7 -j MARK --set-mark 5 #portjordi.netplc.com iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth0 -o eth1 --source 10.54.8.79 -m mac --mac-source 00:08:0d:cd:ce:d9 -j MARK --set-mark 10 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth0 -o eth1 --source 10.54.8.170 -m mac --mac-source 00:08:0d:cd:ce:d9 -j MARK --set-mark 10 #portjordi2w iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth0 -o eth1 --source 10.54.8.118 -m mac --mac-source 00:18:DE:7B:46:DC -j MARK --set-mark 10 #portlinuxw iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth0 -o eth1 --source 10.54.8.242 -j MARK --set-mark 10 #Blacklist #angela #iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth0 -o eth1 --source 10.54.8.80 -j MARK --set-mark 20 #Service privileges #http iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --sport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 15 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #https iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --sport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 15 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --dport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #imaps iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --sport 993 -j MARK --set-mark 15 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --dport 993 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #pop3s iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --sport 995 -j MARK --set-mark 15 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth1 -p tcp --dport 995 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #openvpn iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth1 -p udp --sport 1194 -j MARK --set-mark 10 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth1 -p udp --dport 1194 -j MARK --set-mark 10 #icmp iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth0 -o eth1 -p icmp -j MARK --set-mark 5 # tc filter add dev eth1 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 5 handle 5 fw flowid 1:5 tc filter add dev eth1 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 10 handle 10 fw flowid 1:10 tc filter add dev eth1 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 15 handle 15 fw flowid 1:15 tc filter add dev eth1 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 20 handle 20 fw flowid 1:20 tc filter add dev eth1 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 25 handle 25 fw flowid 1:25 #Print tc statictics #tc -s -d class show dev eth1 #tc -s -d qdisc show dev eth1 echo "Outbound shaping added to surera" } stop() { echo "stop ..." # Reset everything to a known state (cleared) #flush de reglas $IPTABLES -F $IPTABLES -X $IPTABLES -Z $IPTABLES -t nat -F #Borrar clase entera $TC qdisc del dev eth1 root echo "Shaping removed on surera" } status() { echo "[iptables]" $IPTABLES -L -v -n $IPTABLES -L -v -n -t nat echo "---- qdisc parameters ----------" tc qdisc ls dev eth1 echo "---- Class parameters ----------" tc class ls dev eth1 echo "---- filter parameters ---------" tc filter ls dev eth1 #Print tc statictics echo "---- tc class statistics -------" tc -s -d class show dev eth1 echo "---- tc qdisc statistics -------" tc -s -d qdisc show dev eth1 } restart() { echo "restart ..." start } reload() { echo "start ..." start } force_reload() { echo "force-reload ..." start } case $1 in start) start ;; stop) stop ;; status) status ;; restart) restart ;; reload) reload ;; force-reload) force_reload ;; *) echo "Usage: iptables_tc {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload|status}" #echo "Usage: ${0##*/} {start|stop|restart|reload|status}" ;; esac exit 0 Nils Kassube wrote: > Donn wrote: > >> Any hints? >> >> :) ... >> > > /etc/rc.local maybe. > > > Nils > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 01:00:55 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:00:55 -0400 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <47339C4A.1060700@sbcglobal.net> <9bed467e0711081648m52d5d71byf1c4ac7872f2442b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1889077.U7Fq3l3uBE@cedar.serverforest.com> Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On Nov 8, 2007 6:31 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: >> I mentioned Automatix2 earlier. I went and looked and something is >> offered that would allow you to use Office and Photoshop; it is free for >> a month then sold at a very low cost. You might look into it. Jusy >> Google *Automatix2*. Steven > > You're probably referring to that unfree CodeWeavers thing. It's kind > of like wine It's _not_ "kind of like wine". It _is_ Wine. With some preset configs provided to support Office and similar. It's _not_ unfree - imo it is _exactly_ what Free software is supposed to be about. (and if we all boycotted Codeweavers on that basis, Wine would be pretty well useless - they have turned over a great deal of work to the Wine devs). > the OP should probably try wine first. Worth the attempt, but if he has something that Wine doesn't handle yet, and Crossover Office _does_, there's no reason he should avoid the Codeweavers product. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 14:42:17 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:42:17 +0200 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: <47386286.7010808@netplc.com> References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711120910.01063.kassube@gmx.net> <47386286.7010808@netplc.com> Message-ID: <200711121642.17692.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Create a file in /etc/init.d with the adapted contents of my firewall > file. Then > $ sudo update-rc.d iptables_tc defaults Great, thanks. I'll give it a whirl :) Your firewall is waaaaaaaaaaaay over my head, so I'll just use my one-liner instead! /d From lists at ptfd.org Mon Nov 12 14:56:14 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:56:14 -0500 Subject: kmymoney-online banking? Message-ID: <200711120956.14789.lists@ptfd.org> Anyone have kmymoney working in gutsy with online banking? In googling around I think I see that the proper options are turned off in the ubuntu-kubuntu version of kmymoney? Mike From lists at ptfd.org Mon Nov 12 14:56:52 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:56:52 -0500 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <20071111195508.GA25246@jazz.cocis.de> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <20071111195508.GA25246@jazz.cocis.de> Message-ID: <200711120956.52143.lists@ptfd.org> On Sunday 11 November 2007 02:55:08 pm Christian Schult wrote: > Hi David, > > * David Fletcher : > > On Sunday 11 Nov 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > > I have a nightly backup script that has this syntax at its heart: > > > > > > rsync -uax --delete $source_directory $backup_directory > > > > I prefer not to have the --delete option script running automatically. If > > something gets deleted by accident and doesn't get noticed, when the > > --delete script runs it's gone from the backup copy too. > > I use rsnapshot for backup on secondary harddisk. It takes incremental > backups and uses hard links - so it looks like a full backup every > hour, day, week or month, but indeed the same file only exist once in > the whole backup. To restore simply use cp. > > I run it in a script which mounts the backup harddisk read only afterwards, > so a user can restore files himself. > I do basically the same thing, and have been trying to get RetrospeKt working (kdeapps retrospekt) Looks like a nice alternative to win2003 server's "previous versions". I haven't got it right yet, but hop[efully soon... Mike From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 15:30:24 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:30:24 -0500 Subject: Photoshop was Vmware/WinXP on Kubuntu 7.10 In-Reply-To: <1889077.U7Fq3l3uBE@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DDF7E@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <47339C4A.1060700@sbcglobal.net> <9bed467e0711081648m52d5d71byf1c4ac7872f2442b@mail.gmail.com> <1889077.U7Fq3l3uBE@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711120730k28fd1e38x578b207fc2d2886c@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 11, 2007 8:00 PM, Derek Broughton wrote: > Andrew Jarrett wrote: > > > On Nov 8, 2007 6:31 PM, Steven Vollom wrote: > >> I mentioned Automatix2 earlier. I went and looked and something is > >> offered that would allow you to use Office and Photoshop; it is free for > >> a month then sold at a very low cost. You might look into it. Jusy > >> Google *Automatix2*. Steven > > > > You're probably referring to that unfree CodeWeavers thing. It's kind > > of like wine > > It's _not_ "kind of like wine". It _is_ Wine. With some preset configs > provided to support Office and similar. Sorry, I wasn't aware that they had the same codebase. > It's _not_ unfree - imo it is > _exactly_ what Free software is supposed to be about. (and if we all > boycotted Codeweavers on that basis, Wine would be pretty well useless - > they have turned over a great deal of work to the Wine devs). I appreciate the help that Codeweavers has given to the Wine devs and I am in no way saying that we shouldn't support Codeweavers. By saying that the Crossover Office product is "unfree" I was talking about its price-tag and not in the FLOSS kind of "free". > > the OP should probably try wine first. > > Worth the attempt, but if he has something that Wine doesn't handle yet, and > Crossover Office _does_, there's no reason he should avoid the Codeweavers > product. > -- > derek Right. It just seems like the OP probably wouldn't want to spend any extra money getting Photoshop working. It seems like the OP is more interested in a virtual machine type of solution, but I just figured I would mention Wine and Crossover Office. Looking through the Wine AppDb (http://appdb.winehq.org), it looks like Photoshop CS2 is on the Silver list, so it is a definite possibility. I, in no way, have a problem with Crossover Office charging money for their great product. I was just trying to point out that there was a possibility of using emulation to run Photoshop in order to avoid the hassle of installing WinXP (or whatever) in a virtual machine. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 15:27:10 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:27:10 -0400 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1420291.GuYNVxNZSI@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can you >> guys throw me a bone? > Toss --> kdesu :) Strictly, kdesudo - kdesu gets replaced by a symlink to kdesudo in gutsy. >> Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? > Kate or Kedit, "or"? The default installed editors are kate and kwrite, but afaict they actually are just slightly different front-ends for the same kpart - and kedit is too. Why are there so many? > but vi is good. Ugh :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 15:27:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:27:39 -0400 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <720b310e0711090631i7fc5787v1eccc89bb88fed79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2443089.NQBpIzEFRY@cedar.serverforest.com> Greg Booth wrote: > On Nov 9, 2007 8:25 AM, Donn wrote: >> > I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can >> > you guys throw me a bone? >> Toss --> kdesu :) >> >> > Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? >> Kate or Kedit, but vi is good. >> >> /d >> > > vi good! *grunts and swings his caveman club around* > > But if you want something like, GUI and stuff, then go with Kate's got my > vote. LOL! _That's_ what I meant to say. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 15:42:53 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:42:53 -0400 Subject: Where is the eth* config gone in gusty ? References: <200711121144.37049.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Message-ID: <1743831.kGa4ReyAEz@cedar.serverforest.com> Juergen Sauer wrote: > Moin, > after upgrading to gusty the network interfaces were "jumped" away. > > Physical devices were eth0 ... eth2. > > After Gusty upgrade those are eth3... > > and it seems, that /etc/iftab is ignored since. ;-> It's _not_ ignored (I can attest, as mine was b0rked, and deleting it resolved my problem). However, iftab is sourced from within udev, which is where the actual device names are created. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 15:38:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:38:07 -0400 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1886259.UehDRfmfys@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: > Hi, > I want to run an iptables command to allow my other machine to surf > through my Kubuntu box. I used to put this into /etc/networking/netshare, > but I can't recall how it got run exactly. > How do I set this up on Gutsy (I don't savvy upstart yet) so it runs soon > after the network interfaces have come to life? /etc/network/if-up-d is the place to do anything that comes right after an interface is brought up. -- derek From turgon at mike-leone.com Mon Nov 12 16:21:41 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:21:41 -0500 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <2443089.NQBpIzEFRY@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <720b310e0711090631i7fc5787v1eccc89bb88fed79@mail.gmail.com> <2443089.NQBpIzEFRY@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071112162140.GJ19509@localhost> Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/12/07 at 11:11: > Greg Booth wrote: > > > On Nov 9, 2007 8:25 AM, Donn wrote: > >> > I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can > >> > you guys throw me a bone? > >> Toss --> kdesu :) > >> > >> > Also, what is the kde favorite for editing files? > >> Kate or Kedit, but vi is good. > >> > >> /d > >> > > > > vi good! *grunts and swings his caveman club around* > > > > But if you want something like, GUI and stuff, then go with Kate's got my > > vote. > > LOL! _That's_ what I meant to say. > -- > derek vi has a GUI, doesn't it? gvim or some such? From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 15:36:19 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:36:19 -0400 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1728771.TyPd0lGChy@cedar.serverforest.com> Thilo Six wrote: > Jim wrote the following on 09.11.2007 02:02 >> Kubuntu-7.10 >> How do I prevent kernel from updating, during updates ? >> > > Why want someone to block security related fixes to apply to the system? > Because kernel updates (a) rarely have serious security related fixes (iirc, fewer than one kernel update/month in feisty - and how many of those were serious?); and (b) are the only updates that really interfere with my uptime. I _do_ update my kernel whenever a new one comes along, but it routinely bollixes my hibernate/resume - because I keep forgetting the new kernel will be the default on resume. There's a potential (c) for those who've compiled their own kernels, because it will replace their custom version. That said, there _is_ a reason for updates, and you should think twice about preventing them... -- derek From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 16:34:13 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:34:13 +0100 Subject: Best Chess programs and helpers and files Message-ID: Hello all, I am trying to help by daughter learn chess. What is the best free program out there? What is the best web site(s)? A place to find openings and also pro games that can be replayed on the home system. Anything else helpful. Thanks, Douglas PS For all you Igo fans out there. I think qgo is best program. Note that pandago does not seem to work with 64 bit computers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at pavri.net Mon Nov 12 16:46:45 2007 From: lists at pavri.net (Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:16:45 +0530 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <20071111195508.GA25246@jazz.cocis.de> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <20071111195508.GA25246@jazz.cocis.de> Message-ID: <20071112164645.GA6358@natrum> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Christian Schult wrote: > Hi David, > > * David Fletcher : > > > On Sunday 11 Nov 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > I use rsnapshot for backup on secondary harddisk. It takes incremental > backups and uses hard links - so it looks like a full backup every > hour, day, week or month, but indeed the same file only exist once in > the whole backup. To restore simply use cp. > > I run it in a script which mounts the backup harddisk read only afterwards, > so a user can restore files himself. > > Christian Hi, Can you post the scripts ? Could be used as a starting point for my own backup needs. Thanks, Sharukh. -- Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. Homoeopath, Linuxer. He who laughs has not yet heard the bad news. -- Bertolt Brecht. From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Mon Nov 12 17:00:42 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:00:42 +0100 Subject: nspluginviewer References: <200711120838.31234.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <87ejevpfet.fsf@fjellstad.org> Paul Kaplan writes: > I've been getting repeated crashes of nspluginviewer on a nw Gutsy install. The problem is the flashplugin. It's really unstable. Take it up with adobe. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 17:28:23 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:28:23 -0500 Subject: katapult Message-ID: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> I love katapult, one of the best reasons to use KDE. On Gutsy, though it never seems to pick up additions to the menu. How can one configure or force this? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 17:34:12 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:34:12 +0100 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always wondered about this program and why people use it. What does it do for you? Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lacsilva at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 17:54:47 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (SILVA Luis) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:54:47 +0100 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> On Monday, 12 de November de 2007 18:34, Knapp wrote: > Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always wondered > about this program and why people use it. What does it do for you? > Douglas For me it is just simpler to type the name than visually look for the icon. Even if I have an application link on the desktop it is just faster to Alt+Space and start typing than move my hands to the mouse, search the desktop or menu and click. Krunner is nearly as good and will be even better for kde4 but Alt+F2 is harder to type... I'm lazy, sue me!!! Luís From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Nov 12 17:49:03 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:49:03 +0100 Subject: Blocking updates of Kernel In-Reply-To: <200711111649.05996.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <4733B189.5000000@sbcglobal.net> <4735C360.8080002@mike-leone.com> <200711111649.05996.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: Howard Coles Jr. wrote the following on 11.11.2007 23:49 <<-snip good reasons not to update->> ok that makes sence. Haven´t thought about that before. bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Nov 12 17:51:34 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:51:34 +0100 Subject: Where is the eth* config gone in gusty ? In-Reply-To: <200711121144.37049.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> References: <200711121144.37049.juergen.sauer@automatix.de> Message-ID: Juergen Sauer wrote the following on 12.11.2007 11:44 <<-snip->> > and it seems, that /etc/iftab is ignored since. ;-> > have a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules which is the new location > Any idea, what's going on there ? Where is the lsb compliance gone ? > > TIA > J. Sauer bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From T.Six at gmx.de Mon Nov 12 18:43:41 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:43:41 +0100 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: SILVA Luis wrote the following on 12.11.2007 18:54 <<-snip->> > Krunner is nearly as good and will be even better > for kde4 but Alt+F2 is harder to type... I'm lazy, sue me!!! Do you know if krunner in kde4 will have autocompelation as in gnome? (i miss that) > Luís bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 18:48:33 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:48:33 -0400 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <720b310e0711090631i7fc5787v1eccc89bb88fed79@mail.gmail.com> <2443089.NQBpIzEFRY@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071112162140.GJ19509@localhost> Message-ID: <2969551.arHWMLAYhx@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/12/07 at > 11:11: >> Greg Booth wrote: >> >> > vi good! *grunts and swings his caveman club around* >> > >> > But if you want something like, GUI and stuff, then go with Kate's got >> > my vote. >> >> LOL! _That's_ what I meant to say. > > vi has a GUI, doesn't it? gvim or some such? Sure. Never mind us - emacs/vi/anything-else wars are just the joke of last resort on any *nix list :-) For the record, gvim is actually a pseudo-package provided by any number of gui "vim" implementations. See "aptitude show gvim". I haven't a clue how good any of them are - I was into Emacs before I gave up my caveman ways :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 12 18:51:35 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:51:35 -0400 Subject: katapult References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> SILVA Luis wrote: > On Monday, 12 de November de 2007 18:34, Knapp wrote: >> Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always >> wondered about this program and why people use it. What does it do for >> you? Douglas > For me it is just simpler to type the name than visually look for the > icon. Even if I have an application link on the desktop it is just faster > to Alt+Space and start typing than move my hands to the mouse, search the > desktop or menu and click. Krunner is nearly as good and will be even > better for kde4 but Alt+F2 is harder to type... I'm lazy, sue me!!! It seems clear to me that this is one of those things that seems tied into the way your brain functions :-) Some people find katapult completely intuitive. Some of us don't. It's good to have the choice! -- derek From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Mon Nov 12 19:13:25 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:13:25 +0100 Subject: samba Message-ID: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Hi, I'm trying samba to work with my win-XP... I've installed the samba and smb4k packages. Changed these; - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbmnt - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbumount Problem; If i use "smb://debian/" then i can see all the folders that are shared on that machine. If i click on a folder i get a message that that folder doesn't exist. (...debian is the name of my win-XP machine :)... could'nt help it..) Any ideas. Karl, From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Mon Nov 12 19:19:17 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:19:17 +0100 Subject: samba In-Reply-To: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200711122019.17660.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Monday 12 November 2007 20:13:25 schreef Karl: > Hi, > > I'm trying samba to work with my win-XP... > > I've installed the samba and smb4k packages. > Changed these; > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbmnt > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbumount > > > Problem; > If i use "smb://debian/" then i can see all the folders that are shared on > that machine. If i click on a folder i get a message that that folder > doesn't exist. > > (...debian is the name of my win-XP machine :)... could'nt help it..) > > Any ideas. > > Karl, Bye the way; The same thing with smb4K. I can see the folders, CLicking on a folder results with a fault. Can not mount... (mount error 12 = Cannot allocate memory) From cschult at gmx.de Mon Nov 12 20:03:48 2007 From: cschult at gmx.de (Christian Schult) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:03:48 +0100 Subject: Backupemail messages (kontact) In-Reply-To: <20071112164645.GA6358@natrum> References: <200711111742.00921.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711111211.12710.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711111805.35775.kubuntu-users@thefletchers.net> <20071111195508.GA25246@jazz.cocis.de> <20071112164645.GA6358@natrum> Message-ID: <20071112200348.GA19664@jazz.cocis.de> Hi Sharukh, * Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. : > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Christian Schult wrote: > > > Hi David, > > > > * David Fletcher : > > > > > On Sunday 11 Nov 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > > > I use rsnapshot for backup on secondary harddisk. It takes incremental > > backups and uses hard links - so it looks like a full backup every > > hour, day, week or month, but indeed the same file only exist once in > > the whole backup. To restore simply use cp. > > > > I run it in a script which mounts the backup harddisk read only afterwards, > > so a user can restore files himself. > > > > Christian > > Hi, > > Can you post the scripts ? Could be used as a starting point for my own > backup needs. There's no magic. Install rsnapshot from universe repository. Edit /etc/rsnapshot.conf to your needs. Then change /ets/cron.d/rsnapshot to start your own script and comment out all other lines. ~ > cat /etc/cron.d/rsnapshot # This is a sample cron file for rsnapshot. # The values used correspond to the examples in /etc/rsnapshot.conf. # There you can also set the backup points and many other things. # # To activate this cron file you have to uncomment the lines below. # Feel free to adapt it to your needs. # 0 */4 * * * root /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly # 30 3 * * * root /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily 32 10 * * * root /usr/bin/ionice -c3 /root/bin/rsnapshot_daily.sh 26 12 * * 7 root /usr/bin/ionice -c3 /root/bin/rsnapshot_weekly.sh # 30 2 1 * * root /usr/bin/rsnapshot monthly ~ > cat /root/bin/rsnapshot_daily.sh #!/bin/sh mount -o remount,rw /media/hdc2 /usr/bin/rsnapshot daily mount -o remount,ro /media/hdc2 Christian -- Two percent of zero is almost nothing. From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 20:59:01 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:59:01 -0500 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711121559.06919.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Friday 09 November 2007 09:25:44 Donn wrote: > but vi is good For cli editors, jed can't be beat for keystrokes that are similar to the gui editors. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 21:05:50 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:05:50 -0500 Subject: Gnome = gtksudo, KDE = ??? In-Reply-To: <1420291.GuYNVxNZSI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B96035DE1C8@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711091625.44233.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1420291.GuYNVxNZSI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711121605.50234.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 10:27:10 Derek Broughton wrote: > Donn wrote: > >> I am trying to figure out what the KDE equivalent is to gtksudo, can you > >> guys throw me a bone? > > > > Toss --> kdesu :) > > Strictly, kdesudo - kdesu gets replaced by a symlink to kdesudo in gutsy. damn... if they were going to rename it, why so many letters, why not ksudo? I think I'll create a ksudo symlink in /usr/local/bin just so I, too, can Do It My Way (tm). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 21:09:51 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:09:51 -0500 Subject: Gutsy and aptitude In-Reply-To: <200711121001.56445.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711121001.56445.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711121609.51888.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 03:01:56 Donn wrote: > Hi again, > I decided to use aptitude from the earliest possible point in my new Gutsy > install. As soon as I could, I used it to update and safe-upgrade. > I am now getting this message every time I install something: > > The following packages have been kept back: > libstreamanalyzer0 > > The little Adept notifier icon is always on showing a new package waiting > and it's that same package. > > How can I resolve this? > sudo aptitude install libstreamanalyzer0 The package is being kept back either because it needs to remove a dependency of the prior version or it wants to install some new dependency. When you run the above command, the other stuff is presented to you for approval. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 21:13:04 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:13:04 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711121613.04181.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 12:34:12 Knapp wrote: > Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always wondered > about this program and why people use it. What does it do for you? > Douglas Responding before I read the other replies, 1. I hate weeding through menus. 2. why Alt+F2 and type program executable when with katapult you Alt+spacebar and type either the executable or the menu name. I almost never use for documents or bookmarks, but use almost nothing else to launch programs. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 21:16:18 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:16:18 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711121616.18985.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 13:51:35 Derek Broughton wrote: > Some people find katapult completely > intuitive.  Some of us don't.  It's good to have the choice! Right, now that we have debated its usefullness, and I (its all about me, isn't it?) have "chosen" katapult, does anyone know how to get it to recognize new menu entries? This isn't a problem in Dapper. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From art.alexion at verizon.net Mon Nov 12 21:18:34 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:18:34 -0500 Subject: samba In-Reply-To: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200711121618.34950.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 14:13:25 Karl wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying samba to work with my win-XP... > > I've installed the samba and smb4k packages. > Changed these; > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbmnt > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbumount > > > Problem; > If i use "smb://debian/" then i can see all the folders that are shared on > that machine. If i click on a folder i get a message that that folder > doesn't exist. > > (...debian is the name of my win-XP machine :)... could'nt help it..) > > Any ideas. > > Karl, It's a permissions issue on the XP side. Check your sharing there. 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It is kind of long, but, on the other hand, it is just as long as gtksudo. I guess its just a preference thing. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 13 01:58:36 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:58:36 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 1:51:35 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > SILVA Luis wrote: > > On Monday, 12 de November de 2007 18:34, Knapp wrote: > >> Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always > >> wondered about this program and why people use it. What does it do for > >> you? Douglas > > > > For me it is just simpler to type the name than visually look for the > > icon. Even if I have an application link on the desktop it is just faster > > to Alt+Space and start typing than move my hands to the mouse, search the > > desktop or menu and click. Krunner is nearly as good and will be even > > better for kde4 but Alt+F2 is harder to type... I'm lazy, sue me!!! > > It seems clear to me that this is one of those things that seems tied into > the way your brain functions :-) Some people find katapult completely > intuitive. Some of us don't. It's good to have the choice! I'm also very very very lazy! Here's my ideal computer, one without Katapult, one without a mouse and one without a keyboard. it's simple, it reads your thoughts. Now thats LAZY!!! :-) -- David M. You are sick, twisted and perverted. I like that in a person. >>>PS: Wow, that fortune program can sure be blunt!<<< From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 13 02:03:59 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:03:59 -0500 Subject: kmymoney-online banking? In-Reply-To: <200711120956.14789.lists@ptfd.org> References: <200711120956.14789.lists@ptfd.org> Message-ID: <200711122103.59628.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 9:56:14 am Michael W. Holdeman wrote: > Anyone have kmymoney working in gutsy with online banking? > > In googling around I think I see that the proper options are turned off in > the ubuntu-kubuntu version of kmymoney? I used Kmymoney for quite a few years. I still love it, the UI is easy and clean and it works great, BUT it didn't work with online banking, so I broke down and bought a copy of Moneydance. It works great, and Online banking is a zip to set up. PS: if anyone decides to give moneydance a try, when you set up online banking, it will ask you to give your current password and then a new password, Well don't give moneydance a new password but instead use your current one or you might find yourself locked out of your bank account! No joke! I recently converted my Mother-in-Law to kubuntu and it happened to her 2 times, she had to call the bank both times and reset her password. -- It is easy to find fault, if one has that disposition. There was once a man who, not being able to find any other fault with his coal, complained that there were too many prehistoric toads in it. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 02:08:43 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:08:43 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711121808i240ffa0dl7541561b43b4d59e@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 12, 2007 8:58 PM, David McGlone wrote: > > I'm also very very very lazy! Here's my ideal computer, one without Katapult, > one without a mouse and one without a keyboard. it's simple, it reads your > thoughts. Now thats LAZY!!! :-) > > > -- > David M. > You are sick, twisted and perverted. I like that in a person. > > >>>PS: Wow, that fortune program can sure be blunt!<<< We're working on it... http://techreport.com/discussions.x/12070. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 13 02:10:16 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:10:16 -0500 Subject: samba In-Reply-To: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> References: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Message-ID: <200711122110.16762.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 2:13:25 pm Karl wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying samba to work with my win-XP... > > I've installed the samba and smb4k packages. > Changed these; > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbmnt > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbumount > > > Problem; > If i use "smb://debian/" then i can see all the folders that are shared on > that machine. If i click on a folder i get a message that that folder > doesn't exist. > > (...debian is the name of my win-XP machine :)... could'nt help it..) have you set up the samba password. smbpasswd -a -- You will soon meet a person who will play an important role in your life. From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 13 02:12:48 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:12:48 -0500 Subject: samba In-Reply-To: <200711121618.34950.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711121618.34950.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711122112.48701.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 4:18:34 pm Art Alexion wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2007 14:13:25 Karl wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying samba to work with my win-XP... > > > > I've installed the samba and smb4k packages. > > Changed these; > > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbmnt > > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbumount > > > > > > Problem; > > If i use "smb://debian/" then i can see all the folders that are shared > > on that machine. If i click on a folder i get a message that that folder > > doesn't exist. > > > > (...debian is the name of my win-XP machine :)... could'nt help it..) > > > > Any ideas. > > > > Karl, > > It's a permissions issue on the XP side. Check your sharing there. > Konqueror often interprets not allowed as not there. Yeah it's a permissions problem, because he probably hasn't set up his password for the account. :-) I just spent a week with this problem on a newly installed system. I couldn't figure out why it was doing that, it dawned on me after a week I forgot to set my samba password. -- Perfect day for scrubbing the floor and other exciting things. From stew.schneider at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 02:22:15 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:22:15 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711121808i240ffa0dl7541561b43b4d59e@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> <9bed467e0711121808i240ffa0dl7541561b43b4d59e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47390A57.7050802@gmail.com> On Nov 12, 2007 8:58 PM, David McGlone wrote: > I'm also very very very lazy! Here's my ideal computer, one without Katapult, > > one without a mouse and one without a keyboard. it's simple, it reads your > > thoughts. Now thats LAZY!!! :-) Um...bad idea, given my thoughts...there is no estimating the havoc that would be created. stew From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 13 02:29:45 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:29:45 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <47390A57.7050802@gmail.com> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <9bed467e0711121808i240ffa0dl7541561b43b4d59e@mail.gmail.com> <47390A57.7050802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711122129.45927.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 9:22:15 pm Stew Schneider wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 8:58 PM, David McGlone wrote: > > I'm also very very very lazy! Here's my ideal computer, one without > > Katapult, > > > > one without a mouse and one without a keyboard. it's simple, it reads > > your > > > > thoughts. Now thats LAZY!!! :-) > > Um...bad idea, given my thoughts...there is no estimating the havoc that > would be created. What's the matter stew, afraid you might get turned down by a computer? ;-) -- David M. You never hesitate to tackle the most difficult problems. From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 13 02:31:40 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:31:40 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711121808i240ffa0dl7541561b43b4d59e@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> <9bed467e0711121808i240ffa0dl7541561b43b4d59e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711122131.40498.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 12 November 2007 9:08:43 pm Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 8:58 PM, David McGlone wrote: > > I'm also very very very lazy! Here's my ideal computer, one without > > Katapult, one without a mouse and one without a keyboard. it's simple, it > > reads your thoughts. Now thats LAZY!!! :-) > > > > > > -- > > David M. > > You are sick, twisted and perverted. I like that in a person. > > > > >>>PS: Wow, that fortune program can sure be blunt!<<< > > We're working on it... > http://techreport.com/discussions.x/12070. Now that scares me! Ha! Ha! seems that fortune program knows where this thread is heading! -- David M. Never commit yourself! Let someone else commit you. From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 03:04:43 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:04:43 -0500 Subject: Best Chess programs and helpers and files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9bed467e0711121904l273a52ffld94f9c6367d19cde@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 12, 2007 11:34 AM, Knapp wrote: > Hello all, I am trying to help by daughter learn chess. > What is the best free program out there? > What is the best web site(s)? > A place to find openings and also pro games that can be replayed on the home > system. > Anything else helpful. > Thanks, > Douglas > > PS For all you Igo fans out there. I think qgo is best program. Note that > pandago does not seem to work with 64 bit computers. I'm not much of a chess player anymore, but a couple of days ago I was looking through the games in Adept and found a bunch of chess games. I installed "Brutal Chess", and it took me about 10 - 20 moves to checkmate the computer. It may have been a fluke, though, so I am not sure if it is a great starting place for your daughter. Having been a beginner myself, I found that the best way to get better is to play actual people (in real life preferably). There's nothing like the ego boost of finally beating that guy that has beat you at least 25 times (especially since he evilly snickered every time he took the queen). Your daughter would probably be better off joining a chess club, participating in chess tournaments, playing someone close to her level, and playing online chess (I know yahoo.com has online chess). I was never a fan of playing chess on the computer (there's no "intimidation" factor), but the more she can immerse herself into playing, the quicker she will see progression. It is a good idea to know the various kinds of openings and see how a chess master plays the game. You can just google for "chess openings" and find explanations for the various chess opening, but most people just open with the King's or Queen's Gambit. The _advanced_ player knows his enemy and determines which opening will be best to gain a (slight) upper hand against the opponent. As for watching already played games by chess masters (always a great learning experience), there is actually a firefox plug-in (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2171) that allows you to search for chess masters and watch their game play itself out. I wish I had more resources for you, but I can give you a couple of pointers. A good strategy for playing chess is to control the center of the board, keep your pieces open so that they are flexible and aren't trapped, and create systems of defense (where all your pieces have another piece guarding it). Also, remember to not develop your queen too early in the game and that knights are more valuable than bishops at the end of a game. Actually, you may find some good beginner pointers by googling "chess tips". Anyway, I got carried away, but I hope some of this helps her. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 03:37:47 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:37:47 -0600 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711122137.47555.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Monday 12 November 2007 11:34:12 am Knapp wrote: > Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always wondered > about this program and why people use it. What does it do for you? > Douglas It can act as a simple calculator for one. alt+space and start typing a number a plus/minus/multiply/divide symbol and the second number. As you type the result will be updated in white on the right side. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From dhcolesj at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 03:40:31 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:40:31 -0600 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <200711121616.18985.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711121616.18985.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711122140.31039.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Monday 12 November 2007 03:16:18 pm Art Alexion wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2007 13:51:35 Derek Broughton wrote: > > Some people find katapult completely > > intuitive.  Some of us don't.  It's good to have the choice! > > Right, now that we have debated its usefullness, and I (its all about me, > isn't it?) have "chosen" katapult, does anyone know how to get it to > recognize new menu entries? This isn't a problem in Dapper. I'm running Gutsy, and it seems like it updates after a reboot, or maybe a restart of X. I'm not sure. But an app I added wasn't in katapult and now it is. Not sure when or how often the update occurs but it appears to get it eventually. I'm going to poke around the etc directory some anyway just in case. :-D -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From adeanom at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 04:11:17 2007 From: adeanom at gmail.com (Anom) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:11:17 +0700 Subject: SCIM block my keyboard input Message-ID: hi all... here's what happen... I've tried to install scim, skim, etc so i can input any Japanese char to my gutsy. The problem arise when my screensaver is active and protected by a password. I cannot type anything to the password box when I want to close the screensaver. I know it's scim that block my input because when I remove skim from my tray bar, everything works fine. Also I've tried to remove scim and run skim to see what happen later when my screen saver run, and the result is i still able to type in the password. so for now i remove skim and scim :( does anyone know how to solve this? previously when I used feisty I had no problem at all, this problem arise after i upgrade to gutsy... TiA -- http://a3log.wordpress.com From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 04:42:10 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:42:10 +0200 Subject: Deleted menu.lst In-Reply-To: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> References: <15352375.36141194777432588.JavaMail.flurry@web1> Message-ID: <200711130642.10862.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > What to do now! My menu.lst file which contain the info about every boot > option got deleted somehow. I don't have Windows, now I can't boot. What to > do? I wonder if he came right? Hope so. /d From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 08:35:15 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:35:15 +0200 Subject: K(Edubuntu) Message-ID: <473961C3.9060504@gmail.com> Is my memory gone wrong or is there since 7.10 a (K)Edubuntu version? Want to set up one PC for two youngsters with good software on it. Sinclair From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Nov 13 10:54:36 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:54:36 +0200 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4739826C.6000709@rmk.co.il> David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2007 1:51:35 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> SILVA Luis wrote: >>> On Monday, 12 de November de 2007 18:34, Knapp wrote: >>>> Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always >>>> wondered about this program and why people use it. What does it do for >>>> you? Douglas >>> For me it is just simpler to type the name than visually look for the >>> icon. Even if I have an application link on the desktop it is just faster >>> to Alt+Space and start typing than move my hands to the mouse, search the >>> desktop or menu and click. Krunner is nearly as good and will be even >>> better for kde4 but Alt+F2 is harder to type... I'm lazy, sue me!!! >> It seems clear to me that this is one of those things that seems tied into >> the way your brain functions :-) Some people find katapult completely >> intuitive. Some of us don't. It's good to have the choice! > > I'm also very very very lazy! Here's my ideal computer, one without Katapult, > one without a mouse and one without a keyboard. it's simple, it reads your > thoughts. Now thats LAZY!!! :-) > > I want one of those in Star Trek - "Computer......" Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From nigel at rmk.co.il Tue Nov 13 10:56:02 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:56:02 +0200 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> <200711121854.47503.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> <2115675.0MobslCk93@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711122058.36548.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <473982C2.7040104@rmk.co.il> David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2007 1:51:35 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> SILVA Luis wrote: >>> On Monday, 12 de November de 2007 18:34, Knapp wrote: >>>> Not answering your question but why do you love it? I have always >>>> wondered about this program and why people use it. What does it do for >>>> you? Douglas >>> For me it is just simpler to type the name than visually look for the >>> icon. Even if I have an application link on the desktop it is just faster >>> to Alt+Space and start typing than move my hands to the mouse, search the >>> desktop or menu and click. Krunner is nearly as good and will be even >>> better for kde4 but Alt+F2 is harder to type... I'm lazy, sue me!!! >> It seems clear to me that this is one of those things that seems tied into >> the way your brain functions :-) Some people find katapult completely >> intuitive. Some of us don't. It's good to have the choice! > > I'm also very very very lazy! Here's my ideal computer, one without Katapult, > one without a mouse and one without a keyboard. it's simple, it reads your > thoughts. Now thats LAZY!!! :-) > > I want one of those in Star Trek - "Computer......" Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Tue Nov 13 12:02:02 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:02:02 -0500 Subject: External Hard Drive Detection Problem need help Message-ID: <200711130702.02749.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Hello: I just bought a new 500 GB Western Digital My Book external Hard Drive. The USB system see it attached as a Unknown device with the My Book attached to it. How can I get it recognized as a storage media so that I can use it? Is there any hope of this in Kbunbutu? Fedora 8 seems to have no problems with it. TIA Unknown Class 9 Subclass 0 Protocol 0 USB Version 2.00 Vendor ID 0x413c Product ID 0xa005 Revision 0.00 Speed 480 Mbit/s Channels 4 Max. Packet Size 64 My Book Manufacturer: Western Digital Serial #: 57442D574341533831323036373935 Class 0 Subclass 0 Protocol 0 USB Version 2.00 Vendor ID 0x1058 Product ID 0x1100 Revision 0.00 Speed 480 Mbit/s Channels 0 Max. Packet Size 64 -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Kubuntu 7.10 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 3 days 1 hours minutes. From jferrando at netplc.com Tue Nov 13 13:51:55 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:51:55 +0100 Subject: External Hard Drive Detection Problem need help In-Reply-To: <200711130702.02749.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> References: <200711130702.02749.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <4739ABFB.8030903@netplc.com> Hi Ralph, This is what I did to use my WD external HDDs: First edit the partition table and create a partition type "Linux" $ sudo fdisk /dev/sda (or sdb, sdc, ...) -->Create the partition and save changes Create the file system $ sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 (or sdb1, ...) Mount the hard drive (this is also done by the automounter sometimes) $ sudo mkdir /media/extdisk $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/extdisk Ralph De Witt wrote: > Hello: > I just bought a new 500 GB Western Digital My Book external Hard Drive. The > USB system see it attached as a Unknown device with the My Book attached to > it. How can I get it recognized as a storage media so that I can use it? Is > there any hope of this in Kbunbutu? Fedora 8 seems to have no problems with > it. TIA > > Unknown > > > > Class > 9 > Subclass > 0 > Protocol > 0 > USB Version > 2.00 > > Vendor ID > 0x413c > Product ID > 0xa005 > Revision > 0.00 > > Speed > 480 Mbit/s > Channels > 4 > Max. Packet Size > 64 > > > My Book > > Manufacturer: Western Digital > Serial #: 57442D574341533831323036373935 > > > Class > 0 > Subclass > 0 > Protocol > 0 > USB Version > 2.00 > > Vendor ID > 0x1058 > Product ID > 0x1100 > Revision > 0.00 > > Speed > 480 Mbit/s > Channels > 0 > Max. Packet Size > 64 > > > > From buggerone at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 14:10:06 2007 From: buggerone at gmail.com (JJL) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:10:06 +0100 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hello, 2007/11/12, Art Alexion : > I love katapult, one of the best reasons to use KDE. On Gutsy, though it > never seems to pick up additions to the menu. How can one configure or force > this? Basically : Alt+Space / Ctrl-C / Configure / Save http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/10/refresh-the-katapult-launcher-in-kubuntu/ Regards JJL -- http://kubuntu.free.fr/blog From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 14:10:19 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:10:19 +0300 Subject: External Hard Drive Detection Problem need help In-Reply-To: <4739ABFB.8030903@netplc.com> References: <200711130702.02749.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <4739ABFB.8030903@netplc.com> Message-ID: <4739B04B.8070906@gmail.com> Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > This is what I did to use my WD external HDDs: > First edit the partition table and create a partition type "Linux" > $ sudo fdisk /dev/sda (or sdb, sdc, ...) > -->Create the partition and save changes > Create the file system > $ sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 (or sdb1, ...) > Mount the hard drive (this is also done by the automounter sometimes) > $ sudo mkdir /media/extdisk > $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/extdisk > > Ralph De Witt wrote: > >> Hello: >> I just bought a new 500 GB Western Digital My Book external Hard Drive. The >> USB system see it attached as a Unknown device with the My Book attached to >> it. How can I get it recognized as a storage media so that I can use it? Is >> there any hope of this in Kbunbutu? Fedora 8 seems to have no problems with >> it. TIA >> I second Jordi's answer. It is required to make partitions and format them first. You can achive this by executing commmands above, or use one of GUI tools, such as qtParted or gparted. From stdin at stdin.me.uk Tue Nov 13 14:30:07 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:30:07 +0000 Subject: K(Edubuntu) In-Reply-To: <473961C3.9060504@gmail.com> References: <473961C3.9060504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4739B4EF.9080702@stdin.me.uk> O. Sinclair wrote: > Is my memory gone wrong or is there since 7.10 a (K)Edubuntu version? > Want to set up one PC for two youngsters with good software on it. > > Sinclair > > You can install it from a kubuntu install with the command: sudo aptitude --with-recommends install edubuntu-desktop-kde (it depends on "kubuntu-desktop" so installing from a kubuntu should be fine). You could also install it from the normal Edubuntu CD with the same command. I don't think there is a separate install CD available for the KDE version, at least I can't find one. I think it's because KEdubuntu (is that what it's called?) still depends on a few Gnome packages and so would need half of Gnome and KDE on top. Terence From art.alexion at verizon.net Tue Nov 13 14:45:13 2007 From: art.alexion at verizon.net (Art Alexion) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:45:13 -0500 Subject: katapult In-Reply-To: References: <200711121228.28527.art.alexion@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711130945.18984.art.alexion@verizon.net> On Tuesday 13 November 2007 09:10:06 JJL wrote: > Hello, > > 2007/11/12, Art Alexion : > > I love katapult, one of the best reasons to use KDE. On Gutsy, though it > > never seems to pick up additions to the menu. How can one configure or > > force this? > > Basically : Alt+Space / Ctrl-C / Configure / Save > http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/10/refresh-the-katapult-launcher-in-kub >untu/ Thanks so much. Worked. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 307 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jferrando at netplc.com Sun Nov 11 10:57:13 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:57:13 +0100 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables In-Reply-To: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4736E009.7040209@netplc.com> This is my iptables_tc script. Create a file in /etc/init.d and the create the symlinks $ sudo update-rc.d iptables_tc detauls Please adapt it to your needs. The file has firewall functionality, routing SNAT and DNAT and bandwidth shaping. jferrando at alcudia:/etc/init.d$ cat iptables_tc #!/bin/sh # # iptables_tc - ipables/tc init script # # Written by Jordi Ferrando # Debian.etch / Kubuntu feisty 7.04 # (GPL) NETPLC, jferrando at netplc.com, 17-may-2007 TC="/sbin/tc" IPTABLES="/sbin/iptables" start() { echo "Firewall NETPLC/alcudia ..." #Router linux with bandwith control and firewall #(c)NETPLC, J.Ferrando, Ene-2005/17-may-2007 #Interfaz eth0 10.54.10.2 / 255.255.255.0 (10.54.10.0/24, SEG-ROUTER-LINUX) # eth1 10.54.11.1 / 255.255.255.0 (10.54.11.0/24, LAN) # tun0 10.54.12.1 / 255.255.255.0 (10.54.12.0/24, OPENVPN) #Default gateway 10.54.10.1 #DNS servers 80.58.61.250, 80.58.61.254 #flush de reglas $IPTABLES -F $IPTABLES -X $IPTABLES -Z $IPTABLES -t nat -F #------------------------------------------------------------------------- #DNAT tables #HTTP tcp/80 #iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.1 iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p tcp --dport 443 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.71 #SMTP iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p tcp --dport 25 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.71 #imaps iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p tcp --dport 993 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.71 #POP3S iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p tcp --dport 995 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.71 #Openvpn iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p udp --dport 1194 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.1 #aMule iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p tcp --dport 4662 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.66 iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.54.10.2 -p udp --dport 4672 -j DNAT --to 10.54.11.66 #------------------------------------------------------------------------- #ROUTER SNAT para la LAN iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface eth0 -j MASQUERADE #------------------------------------------------------------------------- iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT #------------------------------------------------------------------------- #Reglas generales para conexiones ya establecidas iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -i tun0 -o eth1 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT #------------------------------------------------------------------------- #filtrado red eth0 (10.54.10.0/24) #http iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT #openvpn iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --dport 1194 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --sport 1194 -j ACCEPT # #aMule iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 4663 -j ACCEPT #iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --dport 4673 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp --dport 4667 -j ACCEPT # iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT #drop por defecto iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP #------------------------------------------------------------------------- #acceso de la VPN, tun0 (10.54.12.0/24) iptables -A INPUT -i tun0 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -i tun0 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.8.0/24 -d 10.54.11.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -d 192.168.8.0/24 -j ACCEPT #-------------------------------------------------------------------------- #filtrado red eth1 (10.54.11.0/24) #La ip de la propia máquina (no hace falta habilitar el forward para una ip de la propia máquina) iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.10.2 -j ACCEPT #servicios a la red local 10.54.11.0/255.255.255.0 #DNS iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 53 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11/24 -i eth1 -p udp --sport 53 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT #Web server iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT #iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 443 -j ACCEPT #iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT #imaps iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 993 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 993 -j ACCEPT #pop3s iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 995 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 995 -j ACCEPT #ntp / Network Time Protocol #iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 123 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 123 -j ACCEPT #iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p udp --sport 123 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p udp --dport 123 -j ACCEPT # iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 123 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p udp --dport 123 -j ACCEPT #Política por defecto a exterior #Tráfico web iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 443 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 443 -j ACCEPT #Si no habilitamos el puerto de openvpn los PCs de la LAN no pueden aceptar conexiones de #clientes remotos a través de VPN iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p udp --sport 1194 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -i eth1 -p udp --dport 1194 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.0/24 -d 10.54.12.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.12.0/24 -d 10.54.11.0/24 -j ACCEPT #portjordi wireless iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.64 -m mac --mac-source 00:0D:54:9F:99:C5 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.64 -m mac --mac-source 00:0D:54:9F:99:C5 -j ACCEPT #portangela cable iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.65 -m mac --mac-source 00:E0:91:03:3C:EC -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.65 -m mac --mac-source 00:E0:91:03:3C:EC -j ACCEPT #portangela wireless iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.66 -m mac --mac-source 00:0E:35:9D:83:C3 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.66 -m mac --mac-source 00:0E:35:9D:83:C3 -j ACCEPT #portjordi iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.54.11.70 -m mac --mac-source 00:08:0D:CD:CE:D9 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -s 10.54.11.70 -m mac --mac-source 00:08:0D:CD:CE:D9 -j ACCEPT #... #drop el resto iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -j DROP echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward #listar las tablas iptables -L -v -n iptables -L -v -n -t nat #Script tc / Traffic Control #J.Ferrando, 30-nov-2005 #Borrar clase entera tc qdisc del dev eth0 root #This command attaches queue discipline HTB to eth0 and gives it the "handle" 1:0. #This is just a name or identifier with which to refer to it below. #The default 12 means that any traffic that is not otherwise classified will be assigned to class 1:12. tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 1:0 htb default 20 tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:0 classid 1:1 htb rate 2880kbit ceil 2880kbit prio 1 burst 32k cburst 3200 tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:5 htb rate 1920kbit ceil 2880kbit prio 5 burst 16k cburst 1600 tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 1280kbit ceil 2880kbit prio 10 burst 8k cburst 800 tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:11 htb rate 1280kbit ceil 2880kbit prio 11 burst 8k cburst 800 tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:15 htb rate 640kbit ceil 2880kbit prio 15 burst 2k cburst 200 tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 320kbit ceil 2880kbit prio 20 burst 1k cburst 100 tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:25 htb rate 160kbit ceil 160kbit prio 25 burst 512 cburst 52 #tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:0 classid 1:1 htb rate 288kbit ceil 288kbit prio 1 burst 32k cburst 3200 #tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:5 htb rate 192kbit ceil 288kbit prio 5 burst 16k cburst 1600 #tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 128kbit ceil 288kbit prio 10 burst 8k cburst 800 #tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:11 htb rate 128kbit ceil 288kbit prio 11 burst 8k cburst 800 #tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:15 htb rate 64kbit ceil 288kbit prio 15 burst 2k cburst 200 #tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 32kbit ceil 288kbit prio 20 burst 1k cburst 100 #tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:25 htb rate 16kbit ceil 16kbit prio 25 burst 512 cburst 52 # tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 1:5 handle 5:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 1:10 handle 10:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 1:11 handle 11:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 1:15 handle 15:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 1:20 handle 20:0 sfq perturb 10 tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 1:25 handle 25:0 sfq perturb 10 #Privileged computers (Whitelist) iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -j MARK --set-mark 20 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -o eth0 --source 10.54.11.1 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #portjordi wireless iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -o eth0 --source 10.54.11.64 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #portangela cable iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -o eth0 --source 10.54.11.65 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #portangela wireless iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -o eth0 --source 10.54.11.66 -j MARK --set-mark 15 #... #Restrict computers (Blacklist) #iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -o eth0 --source 10.54.8.71 -j MARK --set-mark 25 #Priority protocols # iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 25 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 25 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --sport 993 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 993 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 25 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 25 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 993 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 993 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p udp --sport 1194 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p udp --dport 1194 -j MARK --set-mark 5 #sky.fm iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 8110 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 8110 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 8600 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 8600 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --sport 8710 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A OUTPUT -t mangle -o eth0 -p tcp --dport 8710 -j MARK --set-mark 5 iptables -A FORWARD -t mangle -o eth0 -p icmp -j MARK --set-mark 5 # tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 5 handle 5 fw flowid 1:5 tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 10 handle 10 fw flowid 1:10 tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 11 handle 11 fw flowid 1:11 tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 15 handle 15 fw flowid 1:15 tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 20 handle 20 fw flowid 1:20 tc filter add dev eth0 protocol ip parent 1:0 prio 25 handle 25 fw flowid 1:25 echo "Outbound shaping added to alcudia" } stop() { echo "stop ..." # Reset everything to a known state (cleared) #flush de reglas $IPTABLES -F $IPTABLES -X $IPTABLES -Z $IPTABLES -t nat -F #Borrar clase entera $TC qdisc del dev eth0 root echo "Shaping removed on alcudia" } status() { echo "[iptables]" $IPTABLES -L -v -n $IPTABLES -L -v -n -t nat echo "---- qdisc parameters ----------" #tc qdisc ls dev eth0 echo "---- Class parameters ----------" #tc class ls dev eth0 echo "---- filter parameters ---------" #tc filter ls dev eth0 #Print tc statictics #echo "---- tc class statistics -------" #tc -s -d class show dev eth0 echo "---- tc qdisc statistics -------" #tc -s -d qdisc show dev eth0 } restart() { echo "restart ..." start } reload() { echo "start ..." start } force_reload() { echo "force-reload ..." start } case $1 in start) start ;; stop) stop ;; status) status ;; restart) restart ;; reload) reload ;; force-reload) force_reload ;; *) echo "Usage: iptables_tc {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload|status}" #echo "Usage: ${0##*/} {start|stop|restart|reload|status}" ;; esac exit 0 Donn escribió: > Hi, > I want to run an iptables command to allow my other machine to surf through my > Kubuntu box. I used to put this into /etc/networking/netshare, but I can't > recall how it got run exactly. > How do I set this up on Gutsy (I don't savvy upstart yet) so it runs soon > after the network interfaces have come to life? > > \d > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com Tue Nov 13 16:38:17 2007 From: ralphdewitt at tampabay.rr.com (Ralph De Witt) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:38:17 -0500 Subject: External Hard Drive Detection Problem need help In-Reply-To: <4739ABFB.8030903@netplc.com> References: <200711130702.02749.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> <4739ABFB.8030903@netplc.com> Message-ID: <200711131138.17479.ralphdewitt@tampabay.rr.com> On Tuesday 13 November 2007 08:51:55 Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > Hi Ralph, > > This is what I did to use my WD external HDDs: > First edit the partition table and create a partition type "Linux" Jordi: Thanks for your reply. As I am on unfamiliar ground, I am checking each step of the Way. I have used qtParted to reformat the drive ext3. Then I created a 80 gb partition labeled Backup (my intention is to keep a up to date copy of my laptop hard drive here), I then created a partition on the remainder of the hard drive labeled Data (my intention here is to use this partition for all my pictures, music, and scan files. I then would point Amarok, Digicam, and kooka to this partion and the appropriate files.) I have now edited the partition table to add manually these two new partitions. This is the new partition table: /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/sda1 UUID=b8bf4a2b-16ff-43f1-95c1-2d3bd1704107 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sda3 UUID=96c39be8-78fc-420f-bd02-610e701dea2a /home ext3 defaults 0 2 # /dev/sda2 UUID=03a59c0e-a33c-46a0-b046-f06e0cc5c994 none swap sw 0 0 # /dev/sdb1 Linux /Backup ext3 defaults 0 2 # /dev/sdb2 Linux /Data ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0 Is the manual edit correct? Would my next step be to go to the mount hard drive step? TIA > $ sudo fdisk /dev/sda (or sdb, sdc, ...) > -->Create the partition and save changes > Create the file system > $ sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 (or sdb1, ...) > Mount the hard drive (this is also done by the automounter sometimes) > $ sudo mkdir /media/extdisk > $ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/extdisk > (Snip) -- Yours, Ralph. It said Use Windows XP or better, so I installed Kubuntu 7.10 Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234 AIM & Yahoo ralphfdewitt jabber.org ralphdewitt GPG Public Key available at http://www.keyserver.net Key id = 3097 3BC4 Kernel version 2.6.22-14-generic Current Linux uptime: 4:35, days user hours minutes. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 17:04:41 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:04:41 +0200 Subject: iptables sharing the net Message-ID: <200711131904.41358.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Yo, On my old Dapper install I used to run this command to allow my laptop to surf the net via Kubuntu: iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 172.16.200.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE (I connect to my ISP via pppoe) Diagram: laptop <-----> Kubuntu PC <----> RouterThing <---> net My Kubuntu PC has 2 eth ports: eth1 is internal (to the laptop) and eth0 is external to the router thing (on the roof - wireless net connection). eth0 : IP is whatever. eth1 : IP 172.16.200.1 Laptop: IP 172.16.200.2 Gateway 172.16.200.1 I discovered today that I can ping between the two machines but cannot ping form the laptop out to the net -- whether via domain name or IP (I tested google). I saw some message (can't find out where) implying that ipv6 is being used on eth1, perhaps that's the problem. Any suggestions? My network savvy is feeble. :) \ -- I can bend minds with my spoon. -- unknown From jferrando at netplc.com Tue Nov 13 17:41:01 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:41:01 +0100 Subject: iptables sharing the net In-Reply-To: <200711131904.41358.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711131904.41358.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4739E1AD.9010001@netplc.com> I use: #ROUTER SNAT para la LAN iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface eth2 -j MASQUERADE so I think you should do: iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface ppp0 -j MASQUERADE (looks a lot like yours, maybe try this) Donn escribió: > Yo, > On my old Dapper install I used to run this command to allow my laptop to surf > the net via Kubuntu: > iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 172.16.200.0/24 -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE > > (I connect to my ISP via pppoe) > > Diagram: > laptop <-----> Kubuntu PC <----> RouterThing <---> net > My Kubuntu PC has 2 eth ports: eth1 is internal (to the laptop) and eth0 is > external to the router thing (on the roof - wireless net connection). > eth0 : IP is whatever. > eth1 : IP 172.16.200.1 > > Laptop: > IP 172.16.200.2 > Gateway 172.16.200.1 > > I discovered today that I can ping between the two machines but cannot ping > form the laptop out to the net -- whether via domain name or IP (I tested > google). > > I saw some message (can't find out where) implying that ipv6 is being used on > eth1, perhaps that's the problem. > > Any suggestions? My network savvy is feeble. :) > > \ > -- *Jordi Ferrando Fabra* *Director Técnico* * NETPLC* Camino Viejo Castellón-Onda SN 12540 Vila-real (Castellón) España Tlf: (+34) 964 506 174 Fax: (+34) 964 506 173 http://www.netplc.com From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 13 17:08:48 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:08:48 -0400 Subject: Gutsy - boot scripts iptables References: <200711111227.02939.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4736E009.7040209@netplc.com> Message-ID: <5285877.ICrq44Gnpj@cedar.serverforest.com> Jordi Ferrando Fabra wrote: > This is my iptables_tc script. Create a file in /etc/init.d and the > create the symlinks > > $ sudo update-rc.d iptables_tc detauls $ sudo update-rc.d iptables_tc defaults :-) -- derek From karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be Tue Nov 13 18:38:05 2007 From: karl.vanwynsberghe at telenet.be (Karl) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:38:05 +0100 Subject: samba In-Reply-To: <200711122110.16762.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711122013.25266.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> <200711122110.16762.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711131938.05861.karl.vanwynsberghe@telenet.be> Op Tuesday 13 November 2007 03:10:16 schreef David McGlone: > On Monday 12 November 2007 2:13:25 pm Karl wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying samba to work with my win-XP... > > > > I've installed the samba and smb4k packages. > > Changed these; > > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbmnt > > - chmod 4755 /usr/bin/smbumount > > > > > > Problem; > > If i use "smb://debian/" then i can see all the folders that are shared > > on that machine. If i click on a folder i get a message that that folder > > doesn't exist. > > > > (...debian is the name of my win-XP machine :)... could'nt help it..) > > have you set up the samba password. > > smbpasswd -a > Yes, i use the same username on the kubuntu and xp-system with the same password.... I have a look at my xp-machine... From linux_milano at yahoo.it Tue Nov 13 18:47:44 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:47:44 +0100 Subject: djview Message-ID: launching djview causes X to restart. Can anybody confirm? -- Pol From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 20:41:24 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:41:24 -0700 Subject: Any torbutton/privoxy experts here? In-Reply-To: <20071110165552.0f1e7900@graham-desktop> References: <4734D18B.80005@gmail.com> <200711092312.01010.kassube@gmx.net> <4734EAE9.7040307@gmail.com> <20071110165552.0f1e7900@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <473A0BF4.1090708@gmail.com> Graham said the following at 11/10/2007 09:55 AM : > > The default address and port you connect to in Privoxy is > 127.0.0.1:8118. You ALWAYS connect to 127.0.0.1 but the port number of > 8118 is set in the config file, which in my case (on gutsy) > is /etc/privoxy/config > If I set Konq to proxy via 127.0.0.1:8118, then I get the same results as with Firefox: no DNS names can be resolved. For example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ gives: "Your request for http://news.bbc.co.uk/ could not be fulfilled, because the domain name news.bbc.co.uk could not be resolved." So this looks like some kind of privoxy issue. But I haven't changed anything from the installed configuration, so I don't have any idea what could be wrong. Here is my complete privoxy configuration file (with all the comments removed): ---- forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 . confdir /etc/privoxy logdir /var/log/privoxy actionsfile standard # Internal purpose, recommended actionsfile default # Main actions file actionsfile user # User customizations filterfile default.filter user-manual /usr/share/doc/privoxy/user-manual debug 1 # show each GET/POST/CONNECT request debug 4096 # Startup banner and warnings debug 8192 # Errors - *we highly recommended enabling this* listen-address 127.0.0.1:8118 toggle 1 enable-remote-toggle 0 enable-edit-actions 0 buffer-limit 4096 ---- Do you have any idea what is incorrect in that file? Doc From m-wright at eskimo.com Tue Nov 13 21:46:02 2007 From: m-wright at eskimo.com (Maynard Wright) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:46:02 -0800 Subject: djview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711131346.02396.m-wright@eskimo.com> I'm using Dapper on a Toshiba Satellite L25-S119 and djview works fine. It does not cause X to restart. Maynard On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:47, xpol wrote: > launching djview causes X to restart. > Can anybody confirm? > > -- > Pol From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Tue Nov 13 22:37:40 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:37:40 -0400 Subject: Best Chess programs and helpers and files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711131737.40439.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Monday 12 November 2007, Knapp wrote: > What is the best free program out there? I haven't seen any good stand-alone chess games for Linux, though I haven't looked in a long time. Everything I've played involves a graphical front-end on top of a text based engine like crafty or sjeng. Crafty is more than smart enough to destroy me, though I'm not that good of a player anyway. It looks like there's a new game in town for KDE called Knights. It's just another graphical frontend for crafty et al. but it's KDE native, and looks rather nice. -- D. Michael McIntyre From stephenehill-2 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 14 00:56:36 2007 From: stephenehill-2 at sbcglobal.net (STEPHEN HILL) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:56:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Installing Kubuntu To A Two Hard Drive Xp System Message-ID: <390491.36102.qm@web83109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello, Kubuntu Commuinty, I would like to know if some out there can tell me how to install Kubuntu on one hard drive in a two hard drive computer where the primary master drive will contain Windows Xp. I think I might run into problems because my second drive is a primary slave drive. Should I first make the second drive a secondary master ? And/Or completely reformat the the second drive ? Or should I leave the second drive where it is and just completely reformat it ? I have downloaded the 6.06 Dapper Drake version live CD and ran it on my computer and would like to install it to the my second drive without conflicting with Xp on the primary master drive. Anyone Out There Please, Thank You, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 14 01:05:16 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:05:16 -0500 Subject: Permissions Message-ID: <473A49CC.1000008@sbcglobal.net> Trying to setup /dev/hdb1 /media/backup , partitition hdb1 ext3 is setup on hdb, but having problem of giving permission for user to drag files over to /media/backup. /backup is created on /media Gave command sudo chmod 755 /dev/hda1 /media/backup , but I still don't have permission as user to drag files to /media/backup. From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Nov 14 02:26:16 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:26:16 -0500 Subject: Permissions In-Reply-To: <473A49CC.1000008@sbcglobal.net> References: <473A49CC.1000008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200711132126.16342.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 13 November 2007 8:05:16 pm Jim wrote: > Trying to setup /dev/hdb1 /media/backup , partitition hdb1 ext3 is setup > on hdb, but having problem of giving permission for user to drag files > over to /media/backup. > /backup is created on /media > Gave command sudo chmod 755 /dev/hda1 /media/backup , but I still don't > have permission > as user to drag files to /media/backup. May not be politically correct ;-) Make the user the owner of /media/backup and mount it as user instead of root. -- David M. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 04:01:37 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:01:37 +0200 Subject: iptables sharing the net In-Reply-To: <4739E1AD.9010001@netplc.com> References: <200711131904.41358.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4739E1AD.9010001@netplc.com> Message-ID: <200711140601.37693.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > so I think you should do: > iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface ppp0 -j > MASQUERADE > > (looks a lot like yours, maybe try this) I'd say it's identical, but I'll try it. Thanks. /d From ejviolet at yahoo.com Wed Nov 14 05:49:33 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:49:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Permissions In-Reply-To: <200711132126.16342.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <258279.49555.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David McGlone wrote: > > Gave command sudo chmod 755 /dev/hda1 /media/backup , but I still > don't > > have permission > > as user to drag files to /media/backup. When trying to fix permissions on something like this, I start with chmod 777 and remove permissions until I get where I wish or something breaks. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ From kassube at gmx.net Wed Nov 14 06:51:56 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:51:56 +0100 Subject: Permissions In-Reply-To: <473A49CC.1000008@sbcglobal.net> References: <473A49CC.1000008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <200711140751.56726.kassube@gmx.net> Jim wrote: > Trying to setup /dev/hdb1 /media/backup , partitition hdb1 ext3 is > setup on hdb, but having problem of giving permission for user to drag > files over to /media/backup. > /backup is created on /media > Gave command sudo chmod 755 /dev/hda1 /media/backup , but I still don't > have permission > as user to drag files to /media/backup. Create a directory on the drive which is owned by the user: sudo mkdir /media/backup/jim sudo chown jim:jim /media/backup/jim Now you can access that directory. Nils From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Wed Nov 14 20:05:40 2007 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:05:40 +0000 Subject: Installing Kubuntu To A Two Hard Drive Xp System In-Reply-To: <390491.36102.qm@web83109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <390491.36102.qm@web83109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: STEPHEN HILL wrote: > Hello, Kubuntu Commuinty, I would like to know if some out there > can tell me how to install Kubuntu on one hard drive in a two hard > drive computer where the primary master drive will contain Windows > Xp. I think I might run into problems because my second drive is a > primary slave drive. Should I first make the second drive a > secondary master ? And/Or completely reformat the the second drive > ? Or should I leave the second drive where it is and just > completely reformat it ? I have downloaded the 6.06 Dapper Drake > version live CD and ran it on my computer and would like to install > it to the my second drive without conflicting with Xp on the > primary master drive. Welcome! It may be useful to notice what the two hard drive sizes are. The install procedure will ask you which hard drive to install into, a or b drive. The 'a' drive is the primary master, the 'b' drive is the slave. It will be useful to just confirm this by noticing the sizes of drive mentioned. There is no need to format the slave drive or anything, it will be done automatically. I trust you will have a backup of your windows data - it is unlikely that problems will happen using this sort of approach, but it is easier to be safe and not sorry. May I ask why you have chosen to use version 6.06? Although it is the long term support (LTS) version, it is now near to the end of its useful life. Version 7.04 or version 7.10 are still current and have improvements in a number of areas. A new LTS version will appear in April 2008. good luck -- ac From linux_milano at yahoo.it Thu Nov 15 09:13:35 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:13:35 +0100 Subject: djview References: <200711131346.02396.m-wright@eskimo.com> Message-ID: Maynard Wright wrote: > I'm using Dapper on a Toshiba Satellite L25-S119 and djview works fine. > It does not cause X to restart. > I am using Gutsy I have tried with different users, on the same laptop: X restarts, killing current session. Here included what i got from Xorg.0.log, i think to be related to the X crash Any ideas? Thank you -- Pol --- inc ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ? ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ? Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x81) [0x80c9581] 1: [0xffffe420] 2: /usr/bin/X(Xfree+0x21) [0x81c34a1] 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libxaa.so [0xb79e4eff] 4: /usr/bin/X [0x81776c4] 5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so [0xb7c3fcf0] 6: /usr/bin/X [0x814c9ef] 7: /usr/bin/X(CopyGC+0x50a) [0x809edfa] 8: /usr/bin/X [0x817c056] 9: /usr/bin/X [0x8176ee0] 10: /usr/bin/X(ValidateGC+0x25) [0x809d1c5] 11: /usr/bin/X(ProcPolyFillRectangle+0xb1) [0x808bc71] 12: /usr/bin/X [0x81575b1] 13: /usr/bin/X(Dispatch+0x1aa) [0x808f47a] 14: /usr/bin/X(main+0x495) [0x8076f05] 15: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe0) [0xb7d47050] 16: /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x1e1) [0x8076241] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting ------------- From eprosoft at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 11:17:06 2007 From: eprosoft at gmail.com (Eduardo P. =?iso-8859-1?q?Rom=E1n?= O.) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:17:06 -0300 Subject: I need Help with ethernet card Message-ID: <200711150817.07349.eprosoft@gmail.com> Hi I install a server with ubuntu server, and this can't up network interface, when I execute the command lspci|Ethernet, I get the above; 2:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11) The output of mii-tool saids web:~# mii-tool eth0: no link eth1: no link Tha machine it's plug and the hardware have a indicator light blinking, becouse exist connection. ¿ Wha't can I do, to get up ny Interfaces ? Thanks many thanks for your help. -- Saludos Cordiales Eduardo P. Román O. 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If you received this messagge in error, please reply us this same message and delete this message and all attachments. Thank you. From jcsanchez2 at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 11:27:31 2007 From: jcsanchez2 at gmail.com (JuanCarlos) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:27:31 +0100 Subject: I need Help with ethernet card In-Reply-To: <200711150817.07349.eprosoft@gmail.com> References: <200711150817.07349.eprosoft@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473C2D23.1020907@gmail.com> what do you get with a ifconfig, does it appear there?? also have you check with "dmesg" to see which messages you get about the card? Also it looks you have 2 cards, so might need to check that the one connected is the default one.... Regards jc Eduardo P. Román O. escribió: > Hi > > I install a server with ubuntu server, and this can't up network interface, > when I execute the command lspci|Ethernet, I get the above; > 2:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit > Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11) > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5721 Gigabit > Ethernet PCI Express (rev 11) > > The output of mii-tool saids > web:~# mii-tool > eth0: no link > eth1: no link > > Tha machine it's plug and the hardware have a indicator light blinking, > becouse exist connection. > > ¿ Wha't can I do, to get up ny Interfaces ? > > Thanks many thanks for your help. > > > > > From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 11:35:31 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:35:31 +0200 Subject: I need Help with ethernet card In-Reply-To: <200711150817.07349.eprosoft@gmail.com> References: <200711150817.07349.eprosoft@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711151335.32046.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Also, sounds stupid, but make sure you have the right kind of cables plugged into the cards. I think there are "crossover" cables that can confuse the beloved sh*te out of a network! Also, as JuanCarlos says, try "ifconfig" and check your /etc/network/interfaces file. (man interfaces) /d From vineeth.chandran at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 11:46:19 2007 From: vineeth.chandran at gmail.com (vineeth.chandran at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:16:19 +0530 Subject: problems with wi-fi dongle Message-ID: <63676fdd0711150346v3ee45502g85ec37831663a045@mail.gmail.com> Hi I have a netgear wi-fi dongle WG111v2... I have installed the ndiswrapper and the necessary drivers and the dongle is working perfectly fine. I have kubuntu 6.06 server mode withouth the GUI installed on my system. The problem I am facing is whenever i reboot my machine with the wi-fi dongle plugged in..and when the machine comes up the wi-fi dongle does not detect the network at all. But when I plug in the wi-fi dongle when the machine is Up and running it detects the network. 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Thanks, Tim From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 20:04:01 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:04:01 -0800 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: Kontact (KMail is hidden inside it). -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From joantur at cancullet.org Thu Nov 15 20:07:52 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:07:52 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711152107.55995.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dijous, 15 de Novembre de 2007, en Tipton, Timothy va escriure: | Is it just me, or is there no email client included with the install of | Kubuntu 7.10? Normally I use gmail's web mail - but am thinking of | setting up IMAP style with that same account - last night I went to | check it out and low and behold, there's no email client (that I can | see) installed...? I would think Kmail at the least would be there... am | I just missing it? | | Thanks, | Tim Kontact is the included PIM, and kmail is the email client. Kontact is in my Internet menu entry. If it isn't there you can try either installing it (aptitude install kontact -includes kmail, korganizer, kaddressbook- or simply aptitude install kmail). Hope that helps ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 20:09:06 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:09:06 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711152209.06964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I would think Kmail at the least would be there... am > I just missing it? I would think no -- just installed Gutsy and I have kmail. This is it! bin:$ which kmail /usr/bin/kmail Try that ^^^ /d From jpatrickdavies at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 20:01:02 2007 From: jpatrickdavies at gmail.com (Jonathan Patrick Davies) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:01:02 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711152101.07291.jpatrick@kubuntu.org> On Thursday 15 November 2007 20:54:19 Tipton, Timothy wrote: > I would think Kmail at the least would be there... am > I just missing it? No, just run Kontact from the KMenu -> Office and it has kmail inside. Patrick -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Thu Nov 15 20:14:24 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:14:24 -0600 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> > Kontact (KMail is hidden inside it). Ahhhhhhhhh - I was unaware of this; I _know_ I have Kontact, just didn't know Kmail was inside. Thank you very much, I'll check it out. Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? Thanks! Tim From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 20:22:56 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:22:56 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711152222.56268.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to > say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? Kmail. Kicks. Bottom ! :D /d From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 15 20:22:00 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:22:00 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711152209.06964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FAFB@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711152209.06964.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473CAA68.8060406@sbcglobal.net> Donn wrote: >> I would think Kmail at the least would be there... am >> I just missing it? >> > I would think no -- just installed Gutsy and I have kmail. This is it! > > bin:$ which kmail > /usr/bin/kmail > Try that ^^^ > > /d > > A number of the KDE apps are being installed, but they are not show up in the K menu. From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Thu Nov 15 21:38:09 2007 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:38:09 +0000 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> Quoting "Tipton, Timothy" Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com[1]: > Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to > say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? I used to use Kmail but I prefer the fact that I can tell Thunderbird2 what is/isn't spam and it will automagically move - what it learns to be - spam to the appropriate folder. +1 for TB2 :) Links: ------ [1] mailto:Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lanzenesi at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 22:06:03 2007 From: lanzenesi at gmail.com (lanzen) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:06:03 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711152306.04130.lanzenesi@gmail.com> On Thursday 15 November 2007 22:38:09 ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk wrote: >    I used to use Kmail but I prefer the fact that I can tell   > Thunderbird2 what is/isn't spam and it will automagically move - what   > it learns to be - spam to the appropriate folder. Er... kmail does that! Thunderbird is nice and good looking. I've used it for some time. Now I find kmail is more flexible and I even use it under gnome where I prefer it to Evolution that, somehow, reminds me of Thunderbird. Anyway, Tim, what I suggest is try them and find what suits you best. -- lanzen From stew.schneider at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 22:54:46 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:54:46 -0500 Subject: Distribution upgrade Message-ID: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> I was following Dvorak's latest pronouncement of the "deathwatch" for Vista on /. The majority of the comments (as anyone who has tried to work with VISTA will confirm) were negative, but one kept coming up -- there is no compelling reason to upgrade because VISTA doesn't offer anything valuable over XP. So, here I am with the servers I run for non-profits running Dapper and my home machine running Feisty, and I pose the question: What does Gutsy offer over Feisty that would motivate me to undertake an upgrade, given that anytime you move the table you risk making some of the chess men fall down? stew From jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org Thu Nov 15 23:00:50 2007 From: jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:00:50 +0100 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: Tipton, Timothy wrote: > Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to > say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? When I had this decision - 1+ years ago - kmail was the best app with most features. The "killerfeature" was the disconnected imap - so you have your email also offline - and the perfect keyboard control. Not speaking from reply-to-list, reply-to-autor, reply-to-all. Perfect if you have to deal with a lot of misconfigured mailinglist... Jan From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 23:27:01 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:27:01 -0800 Subject: Distribution upgrade In-Reply-To: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Nov 15, 2007 2:54 PM, Stew Schneider wrote: > I was following Dvorak's latest pronouncement of the "deathwatch" for > Vista on /. The majority of the comments (as anyone who has tried to > work with VISTA will confirm) were negative, but one kept coming up -- > there is no compelling reason to upgrade because VISTA doesn't offer > anything valuable over XP. > > So, here I am with the servers I run for non-profits running Dapper and > my home machine running Feisty, and I pose the question: What does Gutsy > offer over Feisty that would motivate me to undertake an upgrade, given > that anytime you move the table you risk making some of the chess men > fall down? OpenOffice 2.3 supports MS Office 2007 files IIRC, but I haven't tested it yet. I didn't keep a sample .docx file from when I beta tested it, and I'm not going to buy it just so I can see if OpenOffice works with it (that's crazy! paying the Microsoft tax just to see if your tax evasion software works with the tax?) I also think it has better versions of Firefox, and Flash as well. Overall? Probably not much. However, the nice thing about Linux is that you don't *have* to upgrade if you don't feel like it. Windows Update will just hound you until you either switch to Linux or upgrade. OS X has the best updater, I think. It's really simple, doesn't bug you that much, and it's generally really quick and painless about the updates as well. Of course, it doesn't handle package management, where Linux's decidedly BSD-style management wins outright as far as making software available to everyone goes. I know, Windows Marketplace is pretty nifty, I've been there a few times just to browse and see what's there, but overall Digital Locker isn't anywhere near as useful as apt-get. Digital Locker doesn't deal with software updates, but Windows Update doesn't deal with third-party applications (thank God, I don't think I'd want MS mucking with them anyways!). Apple Update doesn't touch non-Apple software, even though they probably have the savvy to pull if off in the right way. So Linux/UNIX/etc. stands in a class by it/them -selves. If it's being too annoying about upgrading, you could try to uninstall Adept/Synaptic... Aptitude is superior to them in almost every way, at least in every way that I find valuable. Others have different thoughts about what makes a piece of software good and what makes it bad. Just a little food for thought (sorry, I just finished a blog post and am still in the analytical thinking mode). Hopefully that's what you were wanting to discuss :) -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Thu Nov 15 23:28:53 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:28:53 -0800 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: Generally I find that KMail has better support for managing traffic from mailing lists, most specifically ones that don't change the reply-to in the message to the mailing list address (there are a few out there...) Thunderbird isn't quite as good with that, but then again, neither is GMail itself. Can't win 'em all, I suppose. -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From ejviolet at yahoo.com Fri Nov 16 00:09:14 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:09:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Distribution upgrade In-Reply-To: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <811171.41934.qm@web39610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Stew Schneider wrote: > I was following Dvorak's latest pronouncement of the "deathwatch" > for > Vista on /. The majority of the comments (as anyone who has tried > to > work with VISTA will confirm) were negative, but one kept coming up > -- > there is no compelling reason to upgrade because VISTA doesn't > offer > anything valuable over XP. > > So, here I am with the servers I run for non-profits running Dapper > and > my home machine running Feisty, and I pose the question: What does > Gutsy > offer over Feisty that would motivate me to undertake an upgrade, > given > that anytime you move the table you risk making some of the chess > men > fall down? > > stew I haven't upgraded so I don't know what the advantages are. There seem 2 groups, "worked flawlessly" and "Oh, dear, this doesn't seem to be working". Unless there is a very important reason, I'll wait for for things to stabilize. If I had an extra machine, I would make the experiment in a minute. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From stew.schneider at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 00:45:41 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:45:41 -0500 Subject: Distribution upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473CE835.7070500@gmail.com> Chris Miller wrote: > On Nov 15, 2007 2:54 PM, Stew Schneider wrote: > >> So, here I am with the servers I run for non-profits running Dapper and >> my home machine running Feisty, and I pose the question: What does Gutsy >> offer over Feisty that would motivate me to undertake an upgrade, given >> that anytime you move the table you risk making some of the chess men >> fall down? >> > > Overall? Probably not much. However, the nice thing about Linux is > that you don't *have* to upgrade if you don't feel like it. That's pretty much the way I had it parsed as well. I've run Gutsy under virtualbox, and it's certainly a nice distribution, but I never found that "WOW! Gotta have that!" place. Nothings nagging at me to upgrade (thank you, Canonical) "It ain't broke..." seems to be the proverb for this situation. All my non-profits are frankly boring, they're so stable, and my desktop is mostly email and web, both of which work flawlessly on a $100 Gateway box. Not much to complain about there. I think I'll just watch from the sidelines ;-> Thanks for the reply. stew From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Fri Nov 16 02:31:43 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:31:43 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 Message-ID: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> Running Kubuntu 7.04 on an i586 box with 512 MB RAM. Have Firefox 2.0.0.8 with flash_player_9_linux from Adobe site installed. If I try to watch a video clip anywhere (CNN, YouTube, ...), I get this message: "The video timed out attempting to play. Please ensure that you do not have any Flash Blocking plugins active." What should I do to correct the situation? Any help will be thankfully appreciated jdh _________________ kubuntu 7.04 on i586 w/ 512 MB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at lemmons.name Fri Nov 16 02:41:36 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:41:36 -0700 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <473D0360.7070006@lemmons.name> Tipton, Timothy wrote: >> Kontact (KMail is hidden inside it). >> > > Ahhhhhhhhh - I was unaware of this; I _know_ I have Kontact, just didn't > know Kmail was inside. > > Thank you very much, I'll check it out. > > Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to > say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? > > Thanks! > Tim > kmail is OK but Tbird is better IMHO. Until kmail can reply in the same format that a message was received in, it will be unusable for me. I use email in a corporate environment and HTML based email is a de facto standard. I can create HTML based email in kmail but I can not reply to or forward an HTML formatted message and have it retain the formatting. Tbird does this without blinking. I think kmail will eventually mature and be able to do this but for now. It is not the client for me. If you hate HTML mail, though, and have the option to avoid it, kmail is a good, solid product. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 06:41:12 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:41:12 +0200 Subject: Distribution upgrade In-Reply-To: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711160841.12201.donn.ingle@gmail.com> I don't know about server software, but I had to move to Gutsy a few days ago because I am coding stuff and need the "latest" libraries. I think it's a real pity that any given distro will become an "island" within 6 months and you have no chance of keeping up to date via repos -- short of dist-upgrading (which is hard on crappy net connections). I gather it's the fluid and ever-improving nature of the FLOSS world, but I always have an uneasy feeling that I'm slipping backwards and out of date as soon as I install a new version of Kubuntu!* /d * Not that this is *buntu's fault. It was the same for me under Fedora. I hear that Debian has an "unstable" state named Sid, that is supposed to stay contemporary, but I don't know enough about it. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 06:44:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:44:13 +0200 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 In-Reply-To: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <200711160844.14041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Please ensure that you do not have any Flash Blocking plugins active." Did you check your extensions/add-ons ? You may have flashblock or adblock or any number of funky things happening. Also check you have javascript enabled (and not altered by an extension). If you have flash installed, you should be able to use Konqueror to see those vids -- try it to see if it's not flash that's damaged. All I can think of right now. /d From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Fri Nov 16 06:59:45 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:59:45 +0000 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <20071116065945.46e10f8a@graham-desktop> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:14:24 -0600 "Tipton, Timothy" wrote: > Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative > to say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? My thoughts are that KMail is superior to Thunderbird, but TBird runs on a number of OS so if you are looking for cross-platform compatibility, that may be the easier way to go. But if you want to stick with Linux, Claws-Mail beats KMail hands down IMHO. -- Graham Todd From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 07:50:17 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:50:17 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 In-Reply-To: <200711160844.14041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> <200711160844.14041.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: I run Firefox with Adblock Plus and Youtube works great. Not to say that you didn't turn off Youtube with it. But in any case just turn off Adblock for a bit and see. A second test would be to download a video and play it from the desktop and see what happens. Douglas On Nov 16, 2007 7:44 AM, Donn wrote: > > Please ensure that you do not have any Flash Blocking plugins active." > Did you check your extensions/add-ons ? You may have flashblock or adblock > or > any number of funky things happening. > Also check you have javascript enabled (and not altered by an extension). > > If you have flash installed, you should be able to use Konqueror to see > those > vids -- try it to see if it's not flash that's damaged. > > All I can think of right now. > > /d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at lemmons.name Fri Nov 16 07:57:06 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:57:06 -0700 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <20071116065945.46e10f8a@graham-desktop> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071116065945.46e10f8a@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <473D4D52.8030700@lemmons.name> Graham wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:14:24 -0600 > "Tipton, Timothy" wrote: > > >> Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative >> to say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? >> > > My thoughts are that KMail is superior to Thunderbird, but TBird runs > on a number of OS so if you are looking for cross-platform > compatibility, that may be the easier way to go. > > But if you want to stick with Linux, Claws-Mail beats KMail hands down > IMHO. > > I think I have tried every email client out there with the exception of Claws. I looked at the web site and did not see anything compelling. That is probably an indictment of the web site and not the product. I have seen it mentioned in a number of posts on a number of lists. What makes a claws person love claws? What makes it better than Kmail or T-Bird?. Does it work well in a corporate environment where just about everybody else uses Outlook and most mail is in HTML format? I am a long time T-Bird user but I am willing to learn new tricks if it is worth the time and effort. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 08:01:07 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:01:07 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <20071116065945.46e10f8a@graham-desktop> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071116065945.46e10f8a@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <200711161001.07272.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > But if you want to stick with Linux, Claws-Mail beats KMail hands down > IMHO. You mean Sylvia Browne has written an email client! Does it send and receive from the dead : D Sorry, dumb joke, see: http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/ /d From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Fri Nov 16 08:44:24 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:44:24 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: john d. herron wrote: > Running Kubuntu 7.04 on an i586 box with 512 MB RAM. > Have Firefox 2.0.0.8 with flash_player_9_linux from Adobe site installed. > If I try to watch a video clip anywhere (CNN, YouTube, ...), I get this > message: > "The video timed out attempting to play. > Please ensure that you do not have any Flash Blocking plugins active." > > What should I do to correct the situation? > Any help will be thankfully appreciated > jdh > _________________ > kubuntu 7.04 on > i586 w/ 512 MB Hi John, I'm having no problems with flash videos on FFx 2.0.0.9 and the flashplayer9 plugin. Can you try typing about:plugins in the FFx navigation bar and let us know what the shockwave flash entry says? It should look something like this: Shockwave Flash File name: libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r64 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ Please do not send me copies of list mail. I read the lists. Thanks! From jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org Fri Nov 16 13:14:47 2007 From: jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:14:47 +0100 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: Chris Miller wrote: > from mailing lists, most specifically ones that don't change the > reply-to in the message to the mailing list address (there are a few > out there...) I hope you do _not_ argue for changing the reply-to in mailinglists ;-) Jan From jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org Fri Nov 16 13:17:09 2007 From: jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:17:09 +0100 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? Message-ID: Hi, is there a plugin/script whatever that can tell me something like: "next check of /dev/foo/ in x days. [shutdown] [shutdown & check fs]" ? Would perfectly fit into the shutdown dialog ;-) Jan From magick.crow at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 14:35:37 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:35:37 +0100 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good idea! Why check when you are waiting for the computer, check after you are done with it! Douglas On Nov 16, 2007 2:17 PM, Jan Torben Heuer wrote: > Hi, > > is there a plugin/script whatever that can tell me something like: > > "next check of /dev/foo/ in x days. [shutdown] [shutdown & check fs]" ? > > Would perfectly fit into the shutdown dialog ;-) > > > Jan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Ein Leben ohne Mops ist möglich, doch völlig sinnlos. -Loriot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 15:22:45 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:22:45 +0200 Subject: Output KSayIt / Kmouth to mp3 file? Message-ID: <880dece00711160722j4b8bb3abr53c931553223b6ba@mail.gmail.com> Can KSayIt, Kmouth, or another KDE app output spoken text as an mp3 file? I've googled but come up with nothing. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net Fri Nov 16 17:20:17 2007 From: anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:20:17 -0500 Subject: how to mount feisty partition from dapper Message-ID: <473DD151.6030209@comcast.net> Hi, Feisty automagickally mounts my dapper partition, but, dapper does not mount the feisty partition, and, I have not been able to do so manually. I added /dev/hda3 /media/feisty auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 to /etc/fstab then tried tony at somedamnedthang:~$ sudo mount /media/feisty and got mount: mount point /media/feisty does not exist tony at somedamnedthang:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3 gives me the same thing. omgwtfbbq What am I doing wrong? xposted Thanks tony From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 17:30:32 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:30:32 +0200 Subject: how to mount feisty partition from dapper In-Reply-To: <473DD151.6030209@comcast.net> References: <473DD151.6030209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200711161930.32194.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > mount: mount point /media/feisty does not exist Do you have a directory called /media/feisty ? /d From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 15 23:37:20 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:37:20 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711152222.56268.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3693433.Jbz0vgEq2v@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: > >> Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to >> say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? > Kmail. Kicks. Bottom ! LOL. yeah, it's my preferred client. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. If only it didn't need to be exited everytime I hibernate (it hangs the IMAP connections) -- derek From benjamin.heil at bheil.net Fri Nov 16 19:34:11 2007 From: benjamin.heil at bheil.net (Benjamin Heil) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:34:11 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <3693433.Jbz0vgEq2v@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711152222.56268.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <3693433.Jbz0vgEq2v@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711162034.11676.benjamin.heil@bheil.net> I agree. I love KMail. It just works. ;) (But I have no problems with IMAP connections) Am Friday 16 November 2007 um 00:37:20 schrieb Derek Broughton: > Donn wrote: > >> Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to > >> say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? > > > > Kmail. Kicks. Bottom ! > > LOL. yeah, it's my preferred client. It's not perfect, but it's pretty > good. If only it didn't need to be exited everytime I hibernate (it hangs > the IMAP connections) > -- > derek From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Nov 16 23:12:01 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:12:01 -0400 Subject: how to mount feisty partition from dapper In-Reply-To: <200711161930.32194.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <473DD151.6030209@comcast.net> <200711161930.32194.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711161812.01814.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 16 November 2007, Donn wrote: > > mount: mount point /media/feisty does not exist > > Do you have a directory called /media/feisty ? His answer is no. That's exactly what's wrong. -- D. Michael McIntyre From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 17 00:01:58 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:01:58 -0500 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711161901.58964.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 16 November 2007 8:17:09 am Jan Torben Heuer wrote: > Hi, > > is there a plugin/script whatever that can tell me something like: > > "next check of /dev/foo/ in x days. [shutdown] [shutdown & check fs]" ? > > Would perfectly fit into the shutdown dialog ;-) Here's an easier way, boot up the computer and just yank the plug out of the wall, it'll do a fsck every time ;-) -- David M. Don't hate yourself in the morning -- sleep till noon. >>Ha Ha, if I did this I'd hate myself forever since I'd most likley get fired! From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 17 00:08:29 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:08:29 -0500 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: <200711161901.58964.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711161901.58964.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711161908.30159.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 16 November 2007 7:01:58 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 16 November 2007 8:17:09 am Jan Torben Heuer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > is there a plugin/script whatever that can tell me something like: > > > > "next check of /dev/foo/ in x days. [shutdown] [shutdown & check fs]" ? > > > > Would perfectly fit into the shutdown dialog ;-) > > Here's an easier way, boot up the computer and just yank the plug out of > the wall, it'll do a fsck every time ;-) Ok, Ok, I'll save you all the humiliation and answer this one. Hello David, He said "SHUT_DOWN" not "BOOT_UP". So lock them kids in the closet and pay attention dude. -- David M. A vivid and creative mind characterizes you. From anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net Sat Nov 17 00:32:09 2007 From: anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:32:09 -0500 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?what=B4s_taking_up_all_this_space_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?on_my_hdd=3F?= In-Reply-To: <473E1945.2010708@comcast.net> References: <473DDF98.5010004@comcast.net> <200711162046.04290.bqz69@telia.com> <473DFB03.3040608@comcast.net> <473E1945.2010708@comcast.net> Message-ID: <473E3689.6050403@comcast.net> anthony baldwin wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Okay, >>>> I'm just a bundle of joy this week, eh... >>>> This is really, really weird. >>>> >>>> I'm running Dapper, right, and I decided to try feisty, so >>>> I stuck in the livecd and made a partition and installed feisty. >>>> I used about 140gb of my drive. I figured I'd hang out with feisty and >>>> leave dapper as a backup, or something. >>>> I left my dapper install on about 45 gb. >>>> >>>> Then, I decided that I'd rather stick with dapper... >>>> >>>> So, I stuck the live cd back in, and deleted the feisty partition, >>>> resized my dapper partition to 140, made a new 45gb partition >>>> and installed feisty on that little partition, just for back up. >>>> >>>> Now, kdiskfree, the gnome disk thingy, and every other indicator >>>> is telling me that the dapper partition of c. 140gb has only 8gb >>>> of free space, even though it only identifies about 30gb >>>> of contents on the partition (most of which is my large collection >>>> of excellent Brazilian music...and tonso documents I've translated over >>>> the past year). >>>> So...if I only have 30gb of stuff on a 140gb partition, why >>>> do I have only 8gb of free space on said partition? >>>> What´s taking up the other c. 102gb of space? >>>> Dryer elves storing my lost socks? >>>> >>>> This is freaking me out, man... >>>> >>>> you dudes rock >>>> thanks for all the help >>>> >>>> /tony hijacking my own thread from the ubu list, and moving it over to the kubu list, in the hope that someone over here may have an idea what´s up... Qparted tells me that I have a 137.73 gb partition with 34.92gb used, but only 8.44 gb free, while Kwikdisk and Kdiskfree say I have only a 43.3 gb partition, with 34.92 gb used and 8.44 gb free (at least the math makes sense there)... I´d like to know why Kwikdisk and Kdiskfree aren´t seeing the rest of the partition, and/or what kind of math Qparted is doing (137 - 34 = 8 ?!). I made the partition with gparted from the feisty livecd. Somewhere there are c. 100 gb that aren´t appearing. I figure there must be something screwy going in the hdd, but I haven´t a clue what. I e2fscked the partition, and that made no difference. I still get the same weird information from these programs. /tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com Translation & Interpreting From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Nov 17 01:20:44 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:20:44 -0400 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: <200711161908.30159.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711161901.58964.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711161908.30159.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711162020.44571.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 16 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > Here's an easier way, boot up the computer and just yank the plug out of > > the wall, it'll do a fsck every time ;-) > > Ok, Ok, I'll save you all the humiliation and answer this one. Hello David, > He said "SHUT_DOWN" not "BOOT_UP". So lock them kids in the closet and pay > attention dude. Fscking idiot. :) I can't think of any particular reason why it shouldn't be possible to fsck at shutdown, though I can't think of any easy way to accomplish this either. You'd have to hack something into whatever Ubuntu is using for shutdown scripts now. Or you could go into single user mode by hand and hijack that twilight state. It all seems like way more trouble than it could possibly be worth to me though, unless someone at the distro level could be persuaded to turn the world around from the top down, and get it done the right way, instead of by rude hackery. Rude hackery and fscking don't seem to be a good pair, and I'm pretty sure there isn't currently a polite way to accomplish this. -- D. Michael McIntyre From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sat Nov 17 01:28:21 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:28:21 +0000 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?what=B4s_taking_up_all_this_space_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?on_my_hdd=3F?= In-Reply-To: <473E3689.6050403@comcast.net> References: <473DDF98.5010004@comcast.net> <200711162046.04290.bqz69@telia.com> <473DFB03.3040608@comcast.net> <473E1945.2010708@comcast.net> <473E3689.6050403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <473E43B5.9070705@tiscali.co.uk> anthony baldwin wrote: > hijacking my own thread from the ubu list, and moving it over to the > kubu list, > in the hope that someone over here may have an idea what´s up... > Qparted tells me that I have a 137.73 gb partition with 34.92gb used, > but only 8.44 gb free, > while Kwikdisk and Kdiskfree say I have only a 43.3 gb partition, with > 34.92 gb > used and 8.44 gb free (at least the math makes sense there)... > I´d like to know why Kwikdisk and Kdiskfree aren´t seeing the rest of > the partition, > and/or what kind of math Qparted is doing (137 - 34 = 8 ?!). > I made the partition with gparted from the feisty livecd. > Somewhere there are c. 100 gb that aren´t appearing. > I figure there must be something screwy going in the hdd, but I haven´t > a clue what. > I e2fscked the partition, and that made no difference. I still get the > same weird > information from these programs. > > > /tony > > Where have you mounted your Feisty partition? Try unmounting it and look to see what's in the directory you had it mounted on. It may be hiding the 102GB... HTH -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From eprosoft at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 02:30:53 2007 From: eprosoft at gmail.com (Eduardo P. =?iso-8859-1?q?Rom=E1n?= O.) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:30:53 -0300 Subject: Problem with OpenOffice and compiz Message-ID: <200711162330.53414.eprosoft@gmail.com> Hi List I'm installed Kubuntu with Compiz and it's great, but when I open a .doc or .xls the open office it's open maximize and can't see the menu, here have a very problem, Anyone has see this or any ideas to workaround this ??? Thanks -- Saludos Cordiales Eduardo P. Román O. 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If you received this messagge in error, please reply us this same message and delete this message and all attachments. Thank you. From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Sat Nov 17 03:00:10 2007 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:00:10 +0000 Subject: Adept error committing changes... Message-ID: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the error: There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is fine and is available for Adept to download packages. Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? -- Ronnie Tucker ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 From k7qo at commspeed.net Sat Nov 17 03:15:22 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:15:22 -0700 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <1195269322.5951.28.camel@kubuntu7.04> On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 03:00 +0000, Ronnie Tucker wrote: > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the error: > There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is fine > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > > -- > Ronnie Tucker > > ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk > www.RonnieTucker.co.uk > > Registered Linux User # 456627 > Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 > > I have suddenly been having the same problem with the latest updates. Hopefully this can be cured easily. Thanks in advance Chuck Adams From cherryfinals at yahoo.com Sat Nov 17 03:35:47 2007 From: cherryfinals at yahoo.com (cherryfinals) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:35:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <500124.92057.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I had the same problem, but found the answers here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088541.0 Good luck! --- Ronnie Tucker wrote: > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the > error: > There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is > fine > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > > -- > Ronnie Tucker > > ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk > www.RonnieTucker.co.uk > > Registered Linux User # 456627 > Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Stan "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 03:37:42 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:37:42 -0500 Subject: apt-get dist-upgrade Message-ID: <473E6206.4090900@gmail.com> What should I make of these errors? > Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main swat 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main samba-doc > 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main smbfs > 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main smbclient > 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main samba > 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main samba-common > 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main libsmbclient > 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/swat_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-doc_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_all.deb > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden After re-running with --fix-missing, it seemed to complete correctly. Am I worried I've hosed something? stew From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 03:45:07 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:45:07 -0600 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <500124.92057.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <500124.92057.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200711162145.07786.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Friday 16 November 2007 09:35:47 pm cherryfinals wrote: > I had the same problem, but found the answers here: > > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088541.0 > > Good luck! > > --- Ronnie Tucker wrote: > > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the > > error: > > There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem > > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > > > Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is > > fine > > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > > > > -- > > Ronnie Tucker > > > > ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk > > www.RonnieTucker.co.uk > > > > Registered Linux User # 456627 > > Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Stan Not sure, Do you think any of those fixes will resolve this: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be upgraded: libsmbclient samba samba-common samba-doc samba-doc-pdf smbclient smbfs 7 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 26.5MB of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbfs 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main samba 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main samba-common 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main samba-doc 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main samba-doc-pdf 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main libsmbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-doc_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_all.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-doc-pdf_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_all.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? This is what I see when I do: apt-get upgrade from a shell. I guess the security is just a little too secure. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From dhcolesj at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 03:50:00 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:50:00 -0600 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <500124.92057.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <500124.92057.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200711162150.00420.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Friday 16 November 2007 09:35:47 pm cherryfinals wrote: > I had the same problem, but found the answers here: > > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088541.0 > > Good luck! > > --- Ronnie Tucker wrote: > > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the > > error: > > There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem > > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > > > Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is > > fine > > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > > > > -- > > Ronnie Tucker > > > > ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk > > www.RonnieTucker.co.uk > > > > Registered Linux User # 456627 > > Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Stan Apparently whoever posted the Samba 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 updates did so as a root user, and never went back and gave us visiters access to do anything more than see that the file is there. I can browse the repository files, and can download all but the 3.0.26a updates. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From turgon at mike-leone.com Sat Nov 17 04:16:47 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:16:47 -0500 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 In-Reply-To: References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <473E6B2F.9050807@mike-leone.com> Jonathan Kaye wrote: > john d. herron wrote: > >> Running Kubuntu 7.04 on an i586 box with 512 MB RAM. >> Have Firefox 2.0.0.8 with flash_player_9_linux from Adobe site installed. >> If I try to watch a video clip anywhere (CNN, YouTube, ...), I get this >> message: >> "The video timed out attempting to play. >> Please ensure that you do not have any Flash Blocking plugins active." >> >> What should I do to correct the situation? >> Any help will be thankfully appreciated >> jdh >> _________________ >> kubuntu 7.04 on >> i586 w/ 512 MB > Hi John, > I'm having no problems with flash videos on FFx 2.0.0.9 and the flashplayer9 > plugin. Can you try typing So you watch videos at CNN? I get the same message from CNN, but have absolutely no problems at Youtube or many other places. Only CNN gives me a problem. So I don't watch their videos ... And I do have mplayer installed, as well. From cherryfinals at yahoo.com Sat Nov 17 04:26:42 2007 From: cherryfinals at yahoo.com (cherryfinals) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:26:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <200711162150.00420.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3157.10481.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Here is the particular set of instructions that worked for me: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6088.0 YMMV Good luck! Stan Stan "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From karlok at fastmail.fm Sat Nov 17 05:35:43 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:35:43 -0800 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?what=B4s_taking_up_all_this_space_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?on_my_hdd=3F?= In-Reply-To: <473E3689.6050403@comcast.net> References: <473DDF98.5010004@comcast.net> <200711162046.04290.bqz69@telia.com> <473DFB03.3040608@comcast.net> <473E1945.2010708@comcast.net> <473E3689.6050403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <473E7DAF.5020500@fastmail.fm> anthony baldwin wrote: > Qparted tells me that I have a 137.73 gb partition with 34.92gb used, > but only 8.44 gb free, > while Kwikdisk and Kdiskfree say I have only a 43.3 gb partition, with > 34.92 gb > used and 8.44 gb free (at least the math makes sense there)... My guess is that you have a 140 gb partition, but the size of the ext3 file system is only 45 gb. Try using resize2fs to enlarge the file system. Karl From gamcclary at spiritone.com Sat Nov 17 04:27:07 2007 From: gamcclary at spiritone.com (Glenn) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:27:07 -0800 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <500124.92057.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <500124.92057.qm@web58014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <473E6D9B.3010601@spiritone.com> cherryfinals wrote: > I had the same problem, but found the answers here: > > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088541.0 > > Good luck! > Ummmm... this nube must be missing something at the above link. I'm not running Gutsy Gibbon, and I don't find Samba mentioned. Error message is: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Sat Nov 17 07:41:20 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:41:20 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> <473E6B2F.9050807@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: Mike Leone wrote: >> Hi John, >> I'm having no problems with flash videos on FFx 2.0.0.9 and the >> flashplayer9 plugin. Can you try typing > > So you watch videos at CNN? > > I get the same message from CNN, but have absolutely no problems at > Youtube or many other places. Only CNN gives me a problem. So I don't > watch their videos ... > > And I do have mplayer installed, as well. Yes John. I can watch videos on CNN (not that I want/like to). If you let me know which specific one you're having trouble with I'll give it a try and report back. I've shown you my setup and that seems to work with CNN and just about everything else accept for bans on non-US users by USA sites. ;-) Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ Please do not send me copies of list mail. I read the lists. Thanks! From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Sat Nov 17 07:46:02 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:46:02 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> <473E6B2F.9050807@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: Mike Leone wrote: > So you watch videos at CNN? > > I get the same message from CNN, but have absolutely no problems at > Youtube or many other places. Only CNN gives me a problem. So I don't > watch their videos ... > > And I do have mplayer installed, as well. Hi again John, I have just visited the CNN site and watched first an advert for Credit Suisse (sorry CS I'm hoarding my precious euros) and then a story about a Doomsday Cult. Again, with the setup I described, I have no problem. I am located 80km north of Barcelona so I guess geography isn't an issue here. HTH, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ Please do not send me copies of list mail. I read the lists. Thanks! From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Sat Nov 17 08:02:25 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:02:25 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 In-Reply-To: References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <473EA011.5030100@bluewin.ch> Hi, Jonathan. Thanks for your suggestion. Typing about:plugins in the FF navigation bar yields the following: Shockwave Flash File name: libgnashplugin.so Shockwave Flash 8.0 - Gnash 0.7.2, the GNU Flash Player. Copyright © 2006 Free Software Foundation , Inc. Gnash comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. You may redistribute copies of Gnash under the terms of the GNU General Public License . For more information about Gnash, see http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash . MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes Shockwave Flash File name: libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes (snip) and Shockwave Flash File name: libflash-mozplugin.so Flash Movie player Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.0 Shockwave is a trademark of Macromedia® GPLFLash homepage : gplflash.sf.net MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Flash Plugin swf Yes application/futuresplash Future Splash spl Yes plus ("with JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets) one entry each for QuickTime Plug-in 6.0/7, RealPlayer 9, Windows Media Player Plugin (mplayerplug-in 3.31), mplayerplug-in 3.31, Adobe Reader 7.0 (works perfectly in browser) and Kaffeine Starter Plugin (kaffeineplugin.so), An attempt to run a CNN video in Konqueror yields this: "www.cnn.com - JavaScript - Konqueror Second chance exception while raising fatal exception: Error name: Error - Error Message: there is no public constructor for CNNPlaylistManager." As you can see, that there are three different entries for what appears to be different versions of Shockwave Flash. Could that perhaps cause confusion ? or where else might the problem be? Thanks for helping. jdh Jonathan Kaye wrote: > john d. herron wrote: > > >> Running Kubuntu 7.04 on an i586 box with 512 MB RAM. >> Have Firefox 2.0.0.8 with flash_player_9_linux from Adobe site installed. >> If I try to watch a video clip anywhere (CNN, YouTube, ...), I get this >> message: >> "The video timed out attempting to play. >> Please ensure that you do not have any Flash Blocking plugins active." >> >> What should I do to correct the situation? >> Any help will be thankfully appreciated >> jdh >> _________________ >> kubuntu 7.04 on >> i586 w/ 512 MB >> > Hi John, > I'm having no problems with flash videos on FFx 2.0.0.9 and the flashplayer9 > plugin. Can you try typing > about:plugins > in the FFx navigation bar and let us know what the shockwave flash entry > says? It should look something like this: > Shockwave Flash > > File name: libflashplayer.so > Shockwave Flash 9.0 r64 > > MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled > application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes > application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes > Cheers, > Jonathan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Sat Nov 17 08:35:22 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:35:22 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> <473EA011.5030100@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: john d. herron wrote: > Hi, Jonathan. > Thanks for your suggestion. Typing about:plugins in the FF navigation > bar yields the following: > > Shockwave Flash > > File name: libgnashplugin.so > Shockwave Flash 8.0 - Gnash 0.7.2, the GNU Flash Player. Copyright © > 2006 Free Software Foundation , Inc. > Gnash comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. You > may redistribute copies of Gnash under the terms of the GNU General > Public License . For more > information about Gnash, see http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash > . > > MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled > application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes > > > Shockwave Flash > > File name: libflashplayer.so > Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48 > > MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled > application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes > application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes > > > (snip) > and > > Shockwave Flash > > File name: libflash-mozplugin.so > Flash Movie player Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.0 > > Shockwave is a trademark of Macromedia® > > GPLFLash homepage : gplflash.sf.net > > MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled > application/x-shockwave-flash Flash Plugin swf Yes > application/futuresplash Future Splash spl Yes > > > plus ("with JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets) one entry each for > QuickTime Plug-in 6.0/7, RealPlayer 9, Windows Media Player Plugin > (mplayerplug-in 3.31), > mplayerplug-in 3.31, Adobe Reader 7.0 (works perfectly in browser) and > Kaffeine Starter Plugin (kaffeineplugin.so), > > An attempt to run a CNN video in Konqueror yields this: > "www.cnn.com - JavaScript - Konqueror > Second chance exception while raising fatal exception: > Error name: Error - Error Message: there is no public constructor for > CNNPlaylistManager." > > As you can see, that there are three different entries for what appears > to be different versions of Shockwave Flash. Could that perhaps cause > confusion ? or where else might the problem be? > Thanks for helping. > jdh Yes, John. That would be my guess. You might try installing the latest version of the flash plugin for FFX Flash 9 r48. You can grab the tarball here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW Just untar it and put the plugin, called libflashplayer.so where you usually put your plugins for FFx. See if it works then. Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ Please do not send me copies of list mail. I read the lists. Thanks! From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 08:39:20 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:39:20 +0100 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: <200711162020.44571.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711161901.58964.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711161908.30159.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711162020.44571.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: I would think that the Devs would be into this idea. They are looking for ways to make boot up faster and this is a place that boot up can really hang! I would think shifting as much as you can to shutdown would be a great way to tackle the boot up speed problem alfter all most of us just tell the computer to turn off and walk away as it does all its shutdown things. The only place I see a possible problem is with lap top users that are on the go but even they can just shut the top and go, right? Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cherryfinals at yahoo.com Sat Nov 17 08:57:12 2007 From: cherryfinals at yahoo.com (cherryfinals) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:57:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <473E6D9B.3010601@spiritone.com> Message-ID: <240226.98300.qm@web58001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Sorry I wasn't clearer... The problem report "Adept error committing changes" is not just a Gutsy issue. I've seen it now in three different versions of Kubuntu. I happens when you are updaing with Adept and for some reason (interrupted download, corrupt file, etc) the program exits without properly committing the files. Subsequent attempts to open Adept won't let you modify or update anthing. The fix is to run this line from a terminal window: sudo dpkg --configure -a That will allow you to properly close the files that are locked open. Then, you can run either Adept or Synaptic and finish the update process. Hope that addresses your issue. Good luck. Stan --- Glenn wrote: > cherryfinals wrote: > > I had the same problem, but found the answers here: > > > > http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088541.0 > > > > Good luck! > > > > Ummmm... this nube must be missing something at the above link. > > I'm not running Gutsy Gibbon, and I don't find Samba mentioned. > > Error message is: > "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Stan "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 09:16:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:16:13 +0200 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: References: <200711162020.44571.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711171116.14045.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > hang! I would think shifting as much as you can to shutdown would be a > great way to tackle the boot up speed problem Sure, but think on this: Sometimes the power cuts... and the UPS catches the machine ... and you have to shut down FAST! If it started doing a fsck at that point, I would be in trouble! How to stop it? What would the damage be if the UPS switched off during the check? A "Shut down right damn now and do nothing else on your way to cold silicon" option could fix that. /d From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Sat Nov 17 09:33:36 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:33:36 +0000 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711170933.36911.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Saturday 17 November 2007 03:00:10 Ronnie Tucker wrote: > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the error: > There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is fine > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > > -- > Ronnie Tucker Have you tried doing the update from within Konsole? sudo apt-get upgrade From jpatrickdavies at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 09:53:44 2007 From: jpatrickdavies at gmail.com (Jonathan Patrick Davies) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:53:44 +0100 Subject: apt-get dist-upgrade In-Reply-To: <473E6206.4090900@gmail.com> References: <473E6206.4090900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711171053.48499.jpatrick@kubuntu.org> On Saturday 17 November 2007 04:37:42 Stew Schneider wrote: > What should I make of these errors? Don't worry, those packages have been removed due to a security issue and a fix is being worked on. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163116 Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 17 11:13:26 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:13:26 -0500 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: <200711162020.44571.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711161908.30159.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711162020.44571.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711170613.26574.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 16 November 2007 8:20:44 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Friday 16 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > > Here's an easier way, boot up the computer and just yank the plug out > > > of the wall, it'll do a fsck every time ;-) > > > > Ok, Ok, I'll save you all the humiliation and answer this one. Hello > > David, He said "SHUT_DOWN" not "BOOT_UP". So lock them kids in the closet > > and pay attention dude. > > Fscking idiot. :) He is, isn't he. Ha, Ha. I saw him stick his tail between his legs, drop his head and went to the corner. :-0 > > I can't think of any particular reason why it shouldn't be possible to fsck > at shutdown, though I can't think of any easy way to accomplish this > either. You'd have to hack something into whatever Ubuntu is using for > shutdown scripts now. Or you could go into single user mode by hand and > hijack that twilight state. It all seems like way more trouble than it > could possibly be worth to me though, unless someone at the distro level > could be persuaded to turn the world around from the top down, and get it > done the right way, instead of by rude hackery. Rude hackery and fscking > don't seem to be a good pair, and I'm pretty sure there isn't currently a > polite way to accomplish this. > > -- > D. Michael McIntyre -- David M. Good news. Ten weeks from Friday will be a pretty good day. From spwhite at freesurf.ch Sat Nov 17 13:21:13 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:21:13 +0100 Subject: Problem with OpenOffice and compiz In-Reply-To: <200711162330.53414.eprosoft@gmail.com> References: <200711162330.53414.eprosoft@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711171421.14148.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Saturday 17 November 2007 03:30, Eduardo P. Román O. wrote: >         I'm installed Kubuntu with Compiz and it's great, but when I open a > .doc or .xls the open office it's open maximize maximize? Perhaps not the result or the square button, but over maximized through a mouse resize action. > and can't see the menu, Why can't you see the menu? Is your window bigger than the screen? > here have a very problem, Anyone has see this or any ideas to workaround > this ??? If I understood your problem correctly, I would try : click in your window and drag to access the maximise (square) button, click it and the window should shrink to full screen. This may not work. The experiments I did (on Feisty and Suse 9.3) were to minimize and close. The window would come back as it was if it fitted in the screen. When I resized the window to be heigher than the screen and moved it so that neither the top nor the bottom were visible (ctrl+q to quit). It came back in the same horizontal position (which was narrower than the screen) but the height had been adjusted to have top and bottom visible. So perhaps my idea was not the good one or something else is "broken" on your system. Perry -- BOFH excuse #262: Our POP server was kidnapped by a weasel From gohlip at operamail.com Sat Nov 17 13:33:16 2007 From: gohlip at operamail.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:33:16 +0800 Subject: Adept error Message-ID: <20071117133316.438977B867@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> > > On Saturday 17 November 2007 03:00:10 Ronnie Tucker wrote: > > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the error: > > There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem > > downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > > > Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is fine > > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > > > > -- > > Ronnie Tucker > > Have you tried doing the update from within Konsole? > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > > > > ------------------------------ Go to 'adept manager', not 'adept updater'; if you had set your server to local server or nearest country, change it to the main server. Then you can go to "adept updater' and do the, uh, what else, update. Or if you prefer, go to a console and "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade' one more time. That should resolve it. I suspect that the changes are not reflected in the mirror sites causing the problem you mentioned. Hope this helps. -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 15 23:39:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:39:07 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk wrote: > > > Quoting "Tipton, Timothy" Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com[1]: > >> Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to >> say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? > > I used to use Kmail but I prefer the fact that I can tell > Thunderbird2 what is/isn't spam and it will automagically move - what > it learns to be - spam to the appropriate folder. > > +1 for TB2 :) KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your email client, when it's a separate task. -- derek From ejazzkatt at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 13:50:57 2007 From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (Eric) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:50:57 -0500 Subject: Grub error on new installation Message-ID: <473EF1C1.6070803@gmail.com> I've tried to install Kubuntu 7.10 twice. The installation seems to go okay but the computer won't boot. Grub gives me an Error 18 message and the computer stops booting. Any idea how I can get it working? Eric From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 13:58:48 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:58:48 +0200 Subject: Grub error on new installation In-Reply-To: <473EF1C1.6070803@gmail.com> References: <473EF1C1.6070803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711171558.48538.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Grub gives me an Error 18 message and http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=grub%20error%2018&btnG=Search&meta= Looks like something to do with your drive and BIOS /d From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Nov 17 14:09:54 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:09:54 -0600 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <473EF632.6040602@swbell.net> On 11/15/2007 Derek Broughton wrote: > KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have > spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for > *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your > email client, when it's a separate task. Now you've piqued my curiosity. > you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your > email client, when it's a separate task. Why? To me it seems that would be the obvious place. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sat Nov 17 14:12:47 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:12:47 +0000 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> Derek Broughton wrote: > KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have > spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for > *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your > email client, when it's a separate task. > In what other area would you need spam detection? The only way that I'm aware of that spam gets onto my system is through e-mail. So the e-mail client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. It always amazes me when people assert that "something should be a separate task" in Linux and not built in to an appropriate program. Then a little later, there'll be a debate about text editors and people will be praising Emacs... which is an operating system all to itself which uses *nix as a boot loader... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From infopipe at gmx.net Sat Nov 17 14:36:35 2007 From: infopipe at gmx.net (Bernhard Breinbauer) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:36:35 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711171536.39359.infopipe@gmx.net> On Saturday 17 November 2007 wrote Wulfy: > Derek Broughton wrote: > > KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have > > spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for > > *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your > > email client, when it's a separate task. > > In what other area would you need spam detection? The only way that I'm > aware of that spam gets onto my system is through e-mail. So the e-mail > client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. Sure spam detection is designed for mails, but not for mail *clients* alone. Such spam filters are also used on mail servers, by mail providers and so on. That wouldn't be possible if all spam filters would be part of a mail client, but is possible if they are separate applications. cheers, bernhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Nov 17 14:56:58 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:56:58 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <473EF632.6040602@swbell.net> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF632.6040602@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200711170956.58184.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 17 November 2007, Billie Walsh wrote: >On 11/15/2007 Derek Broughton wrote: >> KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have >> spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for >> *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >> email client, when it's a separate task. > >Now you've piqued my curiosity. > >> you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >> email client, when it's a separate task. > >Why? > >To me it seems that would be the obvious place. No, is not. That puts all the onus to do all this into a foreground task, kmail, which when it has to do all that, freezes your user interface, sometimes for rather extended periods of time. This should more properly be done as background tasks, separate from kmail itself. Here, I pull from 3 servers, as an unpriviledged user, with fetchmail running every 90 seconds as a background task, which hands it off to procmail, also running as a normal user, which in turn runs most of it through spamassassin before dumping it into that users mail spool. Then kmail, running as root cuz I do, pulls from that spool file, sorts it into the various folders and presents it to me to read. And procmail/spamassassin are fairly well trained so its pretty safe to have procmail dump those with high spam ratings (7+) straight to /dev/null. I train on what gets through, watch the logs and haven't had a false positive except for some of the junk my kids & their winderz boxes send me. The next door neighbor also sends me all sorts of chain letter crap that while we're good friends, winds up in /dev/null too. So the only pauses in kmail's composer now is only a second or two while its doing that sorting of what procmail actually passes. That's a much nicer user experience IMNSHO. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) UH-OH!! I think KEN is OVER-DUE on his R.V. PAYMENTS and HE'S having a NERVOUS BREAKDOWN too!! Ha ha. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sat Nov 17 15:03:30 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:03:30 +0000 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711171536.39359.infopipe@gmx.net> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> <200711171536.39359.infopipe@gmx.net> Message-ID: <473F02C2.10509@tiscali.co.uk> Bernhard Breinbauer wrote: > On Saturday 17 November 2007 wrote Wulfy: > >> Derek Broughton wrote: >> >>> KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have >>> spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for >>> *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >>> email client, when it's a separate task. >>> >> In what other area would you need spam detection? The only way that I'm >> aware of that spam gets onto my system is through e-mail. So the e-mail >> client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. >> > > Sure spam detection is designed for mails, but not for mail *clients* alone. > Such spam filters are also used on mail servers, by mail providers and so on. > That wouldn't be possible if all spam filters would be part of a mail client, > but is possible if they are separate applications. > > cheers, > bernhard > Ah. I tend to forget about servers as I only have a single-user, single-OS machine here. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Sat Nov 17 15:15:37 2007 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:15:37 +0000 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <200711170933.36911.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> <200711170933.36911.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <473F0599.3080409@ronnietucker.co.uk> >> Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the error: >> There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem >> downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. >> >> Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is fine >> and is available for Adept to download packages. >> >> Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? >> >> -- >> Ronnie Tucker >> > > Have you tried doing the update from within Konsole? > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > When I try the upgrade from Konsole I get a '403 Forbidden' on a couple of the Gutsy repo's... what the hell? :/ The following packages will be upgraded: libsmbclient samba-common smbclient 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 8606kB of archives. After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main samba-common 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main libsmbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? I haven't touched my list of repos at all. It's a fresh install of Gutsy... -- Ronnie Tucker ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 From claydoh at midmaine.com Sat Nov 17 15:28:57 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:28:57 -0500 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <473F0599.3080409@ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <473E593A.4080909@ronnietucker.co.uk> <200711170933.36911.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> <473F0599.3080409@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711171028.57368.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday 17 November 2007 10:15:37 am Ronnie Tucker wrote: > >> Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the > >> error: There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a > >> problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > >> > >> Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is fine > >> and is available for Adept to download packages. > >> > >> Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > >> > >> -- > >> Ronnie Tucker > > > > Have you tried doing the update from within Konsole? > > > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > When I try the upgrade from Konsole I get a '403 Forbidden' on a couple > of the Gutsy repo's... what the hell? :/ > > > The following packages will be upgraded: > libsmbclient samba-common smbclient > 3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 8606kB of archives. > After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y > Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbclient > 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main samba-common > 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 > 403 Forbidden > Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main libsmbclient > 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 > 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubun >tu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1u >buntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden > Failed to fetch > http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1u >buntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden > E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with > --fix-missing? > > > I haven't touched my list of repos at all. It's a fresh install of Gutsy... > > -- > Ronnie Tucker > > ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk > www.RonnieTucker.co.uk > > Registered Linux User # 456627 > Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 This was fixed for me this morning, but the reason for the problem was mentioned in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3783704&postcount=4 -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 17 15:34:46 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:34:46 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <473D0360.7070006@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <9494186.jk09LGAGiJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Paul Lemmons wrote: > kmail is OK but Tbird is better IMHO. Until kmail can reply in the same > format that a message was received in, it will be unusable for me. Much as I hate html mail, I have to agree this is a problem. > I use > email in a corporate environment and HTML based email is a de facto > standard. I can create HTML based email in kmail but I can not reply to > or forward an HTML formatted message and have it retain the formatting. > > Tbird does this without blinking. I think kmail will eventually mature > and be able to do this but for now. Don't hold your breath. I haven't seen any indication that the developers see this as any kind of necessity. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 17 15:44:41 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:44:41 -0400 Subject: Distribution upgrade References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> <200711160841.12201.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3088276.xLCoUi0Gte@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: > I don't know about server software, but I had to move to Gutsy a few days > ago because I am coding stuff and need the "latest" libraries. > I think it's a real pity that any given distro will become an "island" > within > 6 months and you have no chance of keeping up to date via repos -- short > of dist-upgrading (which is hard on crappy net connections). > I gather it's the fluid and ever-improving nature of the FLOSS world, but > I > always have an uneasy feeling that I'm slipping backwards and out of date > as soon as I install a new version of Kubuntu!* > > * Not that this is *buntu's fault. It was the same for me under Fedora. I > hear that Debian has an "unstable" state named Sid, that is supposed to > stay contemporary, but I don't know enough about it. It's called _unstable_ for a reason. Not a very smart way to "stay current". :-) And note that on a crappy net connection, it will still routinely want to update 10s of megabytes of files, and almost as routinely want to upload replacements for those same files a couple of days later when it's realized there was a bug in the previous update... The way to have a 'current' system with minimal updates is to continually push the tested packages from the "unstable" system to the "stable" system - but getting that cycle down to less than 6 months seems unrealistic (if anyone had asked me, I'd have said 6 month cycles were unrealistic!). The one thing I'd really like to see from Ubuntu is a "current" repo - like Debian's "stable" - that always points to the current stable release. -- derek From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Nov 17 16:27:31 2007 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:27:31 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711171127.31120.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday 17 November 2007, Wulfy wrote: > In what other area would you need spam detection?  The only way that I'm > aware of that spam gets onto my system is through e-mail.  So the e-mail > client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. I guess it all depends on how you have your system set up. I have more than one user in this household and like to keep mail and spam detection centralized on a server. There's only one machine that receives email from the net... and only one machine to do the email distribution to users (who POP it off the server) and only one machine to check for spam. A lot less work. I used to run SpamAssassin on the server but found even that one machine was a lot of work doing the checking, and whitelisting, blacklisting, etc. I wouldn't want to have to do that on multiple machines. Now I run Dspam and don't pay any attention to it. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 17:00:30 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:00:30 +0200 Subject: Distribution upgrade In-Reply-To: <3088276.xLCoUi0Gte@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> <200711160841.12201.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <3088276.xLCoUi0Gte@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711171900.30091.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > The way to have a 'current' system with minimal updates is to continually > push the tested packages from the "unstable" system to the "stable" > system - but getting that cycle down to less than 6 months seems > unrealistic (if anyone had asked me, I'd have said 6 month cycles were > unrealistic!). How does this differ from: > The one thing I'd really like to see from Ubuntu is > a "current" repo - like Debian's "stable" - that always points to the > current stable release. This? I don't know Debian. It sounds like it has a 'stable' repo that's always close to being up to date and you can just roll onwards. Even if it's 6 monthly, that's *still* better than upgrading an entire O/S -- with all the heavy lifting that brings. If that's the case, then Ubuntu would really benefit, but I suppose there are complexicated reasons why they don't. Unless I got it all wrong :) /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 17:03:26 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:03:26 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <9494186.jk09LGAGiJ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <473D0360.7070006@lemmons.name> <9494186.jk09LGAGiJ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > Tbird does this without blinking. I think kmail will eventually mature > > and be able to do this but for now. > Don't hold your breath. I haven't seen any indication that the developers > see this as any kind of necessity. I don't mind much. I see my reply emails as a kind of lesson to those who send me HTML mail. OTOH, that kind of sender is usually not savvy enough to even realize what they are doing... /d From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 17:47:21 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:47:21 -0500 Subject: Version upgrade Message-ID: <473F2929.4060708@gmail.com> Well, I screwed my courage to the sticking place and did apt-get dist-upgrade. There was an error about some security updates, which Jonathan answered for me. Today I entered lsb_release -a and it still shows 7.04. I did a second apt-get dist-upgrade and got some more packages, but lsb_release still thinks I'm 7.04, even after a reboot. What did I do wrong??? stew From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 17 18:04:04 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:04:04 -0400 Subject: Distribution upgrade References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> <200711160841.12201.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <3088276.xLCoUi0Gte@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711171900.30091.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2693688.tduBMzGH8C@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> The way to have a 'current' system with minimal updates is to continually >> push the tested packages from the "unstable" system to the "stable" >> system - but getting that cycle down to less than 6 months seems >> unrealistic (if anyone had asked me, I'd have said 6 month cycles were >> unrealistic!). > How does this differ from: > >> The one thing I'd really like to see from Ubuntu is >> a "current" repo - like Debian's "stable" - that always points to the >> current stable release. > This? There are no symlinks. On Debian, if I point to "stable" (or "testing"), when they make a new release, I'm now pointing to the newer version. On Ubuntu, you have to change your sources (and the upgrade tools, _will_ do that for you, but I'm not happy with that process - after all, it modified my sources and removed all my personal overrides...). > I don't know Debian. It sounds like it has a 'stable' repo that's always > close to being up to date and you can just roll onwards. ' Not even close. The "sarge" version was in testing for over 3 years, iirc. It was 'stable' for a year, before the next release. > Even if it's 6 monthly, > that's *still* better than upgrading an entire O/S -- with all the heavy > lifting that brings. ?? The 6-month cycle is Ubuntu's. That's my point - you either have a system that routinely breaks (like "sid") or you have a system with staged updates (like ubuntu). There's no way anyone's come up with to give you a continuously upgraded _stable_ systems. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 17 18:09:50 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:09:50 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <473D0360.7070006@lemmons.name> <9494186.jk09LGAGiJ@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2112012.Wu3MntiFHY@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> > Tbird does this without blinking. I think kmail will eventually mature >> > and be able to do this but for now. >> Don't hold your breath. I haven't seen any indication that the >> developers see this as any kind of necessity. > > I don't mind much. I see my reply emails as a kind of lesson to those who > send me HTML mail. OTOH, that kind of sender is usually not savvy enough > to even realize what they are doing... But there really are times that you want/need HTML mail. Anyone who sends it to a listserv should be flogged, but once per year I have to use _anything_ else to send my annual summer picnic invitation. It's an invitation - you want a little ornamentation, and while kmail supposedly has an HTML format, it's useless... -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 18:23:33 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:23:33 +0200 Subject: Distribution upgrade In-Reply-To: <2693688.tduBMzGH8C@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> <200711171900.30091.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2693688.tduBMzGH8C@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711172023.33554.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > updates (like ubuntu). There's no way anyone's come up with to give you a > continuously upgraded _stable_ systems. Short of Gentoo I suppose. Pity. /d -- All Bibles are man-made. -- Thomas Edison From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 18:23:10 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:23:10 -0500 Subject: fiesty sound problem Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0711171023p1eba87aeue7fa66a831723964@mail.gmail.com> I am getting 0 sound. I have sb audolagy platinum sound card. in simple neub language would someone please tell me how to get to the sound controls? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 17 18:07:31 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:07:31 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF632.6040602@swbell.net> Message-ID: <59773703.ItN3VysjmH@cedar.serverforest.com> Billie Walsh wrote: > On 11/15/2007 Derek Broughton wrote: >> KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have >> spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for >> *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >> email client, when it's a separate task. > > Now you've piqued my curiosity. > >> you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >> email client, when it's a separate task. > Why? > > To me it seems that would be the obvious place. Because you write an app to do one thing, and you call other apps to do the other things. Filtering out spam is a function that doesn't need to be in the mail client. It's fine to say "well I need spam filtering in my email, so put it in the client", but what if you're running your own mail server? Then it makes more sense to put the spam filtering between the mail server and the client, or even better, at the moment of receipt at the server. The beauty of both spamassassin and bogofilter is that they can sit in any of those places. -- derek From paul at lemmons.name Sat Nov 17 18:53:44 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:53:44 -0700 Subject: fiesty sound problem In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0711171023p1eba87aeue7fa66a831723964@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0711171023p1eba87aeue7fa66a831723964@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473F38B8.5090708@lemmons.name> uriah heep wrote: > I am getting 0 sound. I have sb audolagy platinum sound card. in > simple neub language would someone please tell me how to get to the > sound controls? 1) Start an application that produces sound 2) Look for the blue "speaker" in the status area at the bottom right of your screen. 3) Left-Click once on it 4) Click on "Mixer" 5) Turn on the "light" at the top of each bar and raise the volume on each bar one at a time until you get sound. 6) Turn off those bars that had no positive effect 7) If none of them cause any sound click on the "switches" tab and make sure that external amplifier is turned on. If all of that fails, re-post and we can dig deeper. From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 17 18:22:57 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:22:57 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <2487494.D4mx0MjR1S@cedar.serverforest.com> Wulfy wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: >> KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have >> spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for >> *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >> email client, when it's a separate task. >> > In what other area would you need spam detection? The only way that I'm > aware of that spam gets onto my system is through e-mail. Where in the email process? Some of us run full servers - email gets sent to a postfix (or other mta) on the Ubuntu machine. That's the _best_ place to filter spam, because it can be refused at the time of sending (and if you particularly hate spam, you can hang onto the connection and prevent the sender using it to send _other_ spam!). Others, like me, use fetchmail to pull mail from many sources, and it's appropriate to have fetchmail process the mail through a spam filter. Then others just use a mail client to fetch from an ISP. In all three cases, the program receiving the mail from the Internet _is_ the client, so why not create one spamfilter program that can plug into any of those clients, rather than one for every client? > So the e-mail > client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. For you. (Actually, for me too) > It always amazes me when people assert that "something should be a > separate task" in Linux and not built in to an appropriate program. If it does, you should always stop and consider why they would say that. I've fought for years with the people who say an email client shouldn't speak SMTP. I think it should, because it has to output it's mail to _somewhere_ and I don't see why it makes less sense to speak SMTP than to speak "sendmail". So, I disagree with making everything separate as a general principle, too, but it really does depend on what you want. > Then a little later, there'll be a debate about text editors and people > will be praising Emacs... which is an operating system all to itself > which uses *nix as a boot loader... Well, duh! Of _course_ we'll be going there... :-) -- derek From paul at lemmons.name Sat Nov 17 18:46:18 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:46:18 -0700 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <473D0360.7070006@lemmons.name> <9494186.jk09LGAGiJ@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473F36FA.40904@lemmons.name> Donn wrote: >>> Tbird does this without blinking. I think kmail will eventually mature >>> and be able to do this but for now. >>> >> Don't hold your breath. I haven't seen any indication that the developers >> see this as any kind of necessity. >> > > I don't mind much. I see my reply emails as a kind of lesson to those who send > me HTML mail. OTOH, that kind of sender is usually not savvy enough to even > realize what they are doing... > > > /d > It is not a matter of "savvy" it is a matter of being able to work in an environment where HTML mail is a standard. If you work some place where Outlook is the standard, you don't have much choice. There is also something to be said for having your email client retain the integrity and format of a message. Sometimes those graphics, tables, bolded and colored sentences communicate more efficiently than plain text does. To strip it down to just text sometimes causes it to loose the ability to communicate effectively. Whether we like it or not HTML formatted emails are a reality. And no matter much we hate it, fume, fuss and teach less savvy folks lessons, it will continue and it will grow. An email client that refuses to accept that reality will only ever be useful to the lone hobbiest who has the choice to be stubborn about it. It will never be a viable option for the person that works in a cooperative corporate environment. It is sad, I like kmail but it still has a lot of growing up to do. From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 17 18:14:12 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:14:12 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF632.6040602@swbell.net> <200711170956.58184.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <2119449.6gQG6qgiO6@cedar.serverforest.com> Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 17 November 2007, Billie Walsh wrote: >>On 11/15/2007 Derek Broughton wrote: >>> KMail's been doing that for me for 7 years... Sure you need to have >>> spamassassin or bogofilter (my choice) installed, but that's normal for >>> *nix systems - you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >>> email client, when it's a separate task. >> >>Now you've piqued my curiosity. >> >>> you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >>> email client, when it's a separate task. >> >>Why? >> >>To me it seems that would be the obvious place. > > No, is not. That puts all the onus to do all this into a foreground task, > kmail, which when it has to do all that, freezes your user interface, > sometimes for rather extended periods of time. This should more properly > be done as background tasks, separate from kmail itself. Well, ime, that means you're using spamassassin and/or an old version of KMail. bogofilter on the latest KMail can be pretty busy, but it doesn't freeze anything. In any case, the thing is that you and I use the same spam filtering but I do mine in the foreground and you do yours in the background - which is exactly why the filter needs to _not_ be part of the mail user agent. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 19:33:00 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:33:00 +0200 Subject: Open Office Gutsy Message-ID: <200711172133.01012.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Anyone used OOO recently on Gutsy? I have found a few odd glitches that I'm not sure how to fix. One of them is in the PDF export. The dialogue opens with no text at all and makes no sense. There's another problem in some of the printing screens - empty alert boxes and odd missing text. Is this a Java thing? /d From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Sat Nov 17 19:40:20 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:40:20 +0000 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <2487494.D4mx0MjR1S@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> <2487494.D4mx0MjR1S@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <473F43A4.4070800@tiscali.co.uk> Derek Broughton wrote: > Wulfy wrote: > >> So the e-mail >> client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. >> > > Derek Broughton wrote: > For you. (Actually, for me too) > Yes, I see that... > > >> It always amazes me when people assert that "something should be a >> separate task" in Linux and not built in to an appropriate program. >> > > If it does, you should always stop and consider why they would say that. I did stop and think. It just shows how little experience I have outside my own set-up. I wasn't trolling *there*... though the Emacs jibe was... just a little... >:@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net Sat Nov 17 20:01:47 2007 From: anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:01:47 -0500 Subject: mail notification for t-bird? (for dapper) Message-ID: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> Hi, Is there something to run in the ksystray or something to tell me when I have new mail msgs, that works while t-bird is not running? I installed the mozbiff extention thingy, but it only shows up when t-bird is running. Whe t-bird is running, I know when I have new mail. What I want is something that will alert me when t-bird is not running, so I know to open t-bird and check the mail. Oh...btw, I know there is one for feisty and it works quite well. It´s great. It shows an alert, and even shows all of what mail came in a bubble/text box just by hovering over it. Then you can click on the little thingy, and t-bird (or your preferred client...this one would work with kmail, evolution, etc.) opens right up. That´s precisely what I want. But for dapper. I don´t recall it´s precise name, but, anyway, I am using dapper/kubuntu. The feisty one is in the repos and I synaptic-ed it right in. I´m not finding the same in the dapper repos, but, I can install by other means, if someone can't point the way to where I can find such a thingy. thanks, tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com Translation & Interpreting From gamcclary at spiritone.com Sat Nov 17 20:09:10 2007 From: gamcclary at spiritone.com (Glenn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:09:10 -0800 Subject: Adept error committing changes... In-Reply-To: <240226.98300.qm@web58001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <240226.98300.qm@web58001.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <473F4A66.8060604@spiritone.com> cherryfinals wrote: > Sorry I wasn't clearer... > > The problem report "Adept error committing changes" is not just a Gutsy > issue. I've seen it now in three different versions of Kubuntu. > > I happens when you are updaing with Adept and for some reason > (interrupted download, corrupt file, etc) the program exits without > properly committing the files. Subsequent attempts to open Adept won't > let you modify or update anthing. > > The fix is to run this line from a terminal window: > > sudo dpkg --configure -a > > That will allow you to properly close the files that are locked open. > > Then, you can run either Adept or Synaptic and finish the update > process. > > Hope that addresses your issue. > > Good luck. > > Stan > Thanks for your comments, Stan. The update icon was still showing this AM, so I ran it again and it succeeded. I didn't change anything, so the problem with the update itself must have been fixed at the source. Glenn From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 20:12:29 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:12:29 +0200 Subject: mail notification for t-bird? (for dapper) In-Reply-To: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> References: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200711172212.30005.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > if someone can't point the way to where I can find such a thingy. If it's not in the Dapper repos, and you can't compile it from source (because other stuff is old in Dapper) then you have two choices: 1. Abandon all hope 2. Install Gutsy. Them's the breaks in Linuxland. I just had to move up to Gutsy to get some GTK libs that The Spaghetti monster Himself could not install with all His noodly might on Dapper... /d From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Nov 17 21:17:27 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:17:27 -0400 Subject: mail notification for t-bird? (for dapper) In-Reply-To: <200711172212.30005.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> <200711172212.30005.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711171617.28113.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 17 November 2007, Donn wrote: > Them's the breaks in Linuxland. I just had to move up to Gutsy to get some > GTK libs that The Spaghetti monster Himself could not install with all His > noodly might on Dapper... Hah, you made it longer than I did. Remember how we were both going to sick with Dapper until the next LTS came out? (But I'm still running Feisty for now.) -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Nov 17 21:27:02 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:27:02 -0400 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <473F43A4.4070800@tiscali.co.uk> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <2487494.D4mx0MjR1S@cedar.serverforest.com> <473F43A4.4070800@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711171627.02582.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 17 November 2007, Wulfy wrote: > outside my own set-up. I wasn't trolling *there*... though the Emacs > jibe was... just a little... >:@) Ripping on emacs is never a troll. Ripping on vim, OTOH... -- D. Michael McIntyre From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 21:51:32 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:51:32 -0500 Subject: Open Office Gutsy In-Reply-To: <200711172133.01012.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711172133.01012.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711171351q394e9939h26e120c279bf4210@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 17, 2007 2:33 PM, Donn wrote: > Anyone used OOO recently on Gutsy? I have found a few odd glitches that I'm > not sure how to fix. > One of them is in the PDF export. The dialogue opens with no text at all and > makes no sense. There's another problem in some of the printing screens - > empty alert boxes and odd missing text. > > Is this a Java thing? > > /d I have looked at the PDF export and the printing dialogues and everything looks spiffy. I don't know if it is a JRE thing or not. Are you perhaps running Compiz/Beryl? 3D Desktops have been known to make OO.o do weird things. Perhaps you may want to try reinstalling OO.o/JRE. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 21:59:08 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:59:08 -0500 Subject: fiesty sound problem In-Reply-To: <473F38B8.5090708@lemmons.name> References: <69c7ddfb0711171023p1eba87aeue7fa66a831723964@mail.gmail.com> <473F38B8.5090708@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0711171359i47ebc8e5h1fd0e8939144cc4d@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 17, 2007 1:53 PM, Paul Lemmons wrote: > uriah heep wrote: > > I am getting 0 sound. I have sb audolagy platinum sound card. in > > simple neub language would someone please tell me how to get to the > > sound controls? > 1) Start an application that produces sound > 2) Look for the blue "speaker" in the status area at the bottom right of > your screen. > 3) Left-Click once on it > 4) Click on "Mixer" > 5) Turn on the "light" at the top of each bar and raise the volume on > each bar one at a time until you get sound. > 6) Turn off those bars that had no positive effect > 7) If none of them cause any sound click on the "switches" tab and make > sure that external amplifier is turned on. > > If all of that fails, re-post and we can dig deeper. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > I did as you suggested and found the mixer controls and the specific controls for the SB card. I tried various applications and no sound. I did get the video. Only one application complained (kaffine stated "cant bind socket" ) but then invoked and played the video without sound. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Nov 17 22:09:26 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:09:26 -0400 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <473F36FA.40904@lemmons.name> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473F36FA.40904@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200711171709.26224.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 17 November 2007, Paul Lemmons wrote: > It is sad, I like kmail but it still has a lot of growing up to do. You mean relenting and admitting that Microsoft won to do. Personally, I admire the KMail team for sticking to their guns on this one. -- D. Michael McIntyre From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Nov 17 22:23:33 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:23:33 -0600 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711170956.58184.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF632.6040602@swbell.net> <200711170956.58184.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <473F69E5.8010506@swbell.net> On 11/17/2007 Gene Heskett wrote: > No, is not. That puts all the onus to do all this into a foreground task, > kmail, which when it has to do all that, freezes your user interface, > sometimes for rather extended periods of time. This should more > properly be done as background tasks, separate from kmail itself. > > Here, I pull from 3 servers, as an unpriviledged user, with fetchmail > running every 90 seconds as a background task, which hands it off to > procmail, also running as a normal user, which in turn runs most of it through > spamassassin before dumping it into that users mail spool. Then kmail, running as > root cuz I do, pulls from that spool file, sorts it into the various > folders and presents it to me to read. And procmail/spamassassin are fairly well > trained so its pretty safe to have procmail dump those with high spam ratings > (7+) straight to /dev/null. I train on what gets through, watch the logs > and haven't had a false positive except for some of the junk my kids & > their winderz boxes send me. The next door neighbor also sends me all > sorts of chain letter crap that while we're good friends, winds up in > /dev/null too. > > So the only pauses in kmail's composer now is only a second or two while its > doing that sorting of what procmail actually passes. That's a much nicer > user experience IMNSHO. I was just curious. Thanks for your views. My mail needs are much less elaborate than your. *<[:o) However, my ISP mail server does have it's own spam trap. Took me a few days to get it trained but now it's quite efficient. I guess this is rather analogous to your "procmail/spamassin". Then I use the spam filter built into Thunderbird to catch what gets through that. It doesn't seem to slow Thunderbird down at all. It just drops into the "Inbox" with everything else then falls over to the trash. I don't usually sort it unless there is something special going on. From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Sat Nov 17 23:21:57 2007 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (Ronnie Tucker) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:21:57 +0000 Subject: Gutsy won't recognise a blank DVD Message-ID: <473F7795.3000005@ronnietucker.co.uk> I burned a DVD this morning yet this afternoon, done no changes to the system, Kubuntu won't recognise a blank DVD. I put in a blank and it shows me the yellow disc icon on the desktop (no usual window saying 'what would you like to do with this?') and when I click it Dolphin reports (at the bottom of an empty window) the error: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol ". . Even in K3B the disc is not recognised as being valid. Although the system can still recognise and play previously burned DVD's no problem. *sob* Beginning to think my Gutsy install is falling apart at the seams :( -- Ronnie Tucker ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sat Nov 17 23:37:22 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:37:22 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711171627.02582.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <473F43A4.4070800@tiscali.co.uk> <200711171627.02582.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711171837.22363.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Saturday 17 November 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >On Saturday 17 November 2007, Wulfy wrote: >> outside my own set-up. I wasn't trolling *there*... though the Emacs >> jibe was... just a little... >:@) > >Ripping on emacs is never a troll. Ripping on vim, OTOH... Is fightin words! :-) >-- >D. Michael McIntyre -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If you are going to walk on thin ice, you may as well dance. From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 00:40:07 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:40:07 -0500 Subject: Open Office Gutsy In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711171351q394e9939h26e120c279bf4210@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711172133.01012.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9bed467e0711171351q394e9939h26e120c279bf4210@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473F89E7.1090000@gmail.com> Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On Nov 17, 2007 2:33 PM, Donn wrote: > >> Anyone used OOO recently on Gutsy? I have found a few odd glitches that I'm >> not sure how to fix. >> One of them is in the PDF export. The dialogue opens with no text at all and >> makes no sense. There's another problem in some of the printing screens - >> empty alert boxes and odd missing text. >> >> Is this a Java thing? >> >> /d >> > > I have looked at the PDF export and the printing dialogues and > everything looks spiffy. I don't know if it is a JRE thing or not. > Are you perhaps running Compiz/Beryl? 3D Desktops have been known to > make OO.o do weird things. Perhaps you may want to try reinstalling > OO.o/JRE. > I'm running Compiz...no problems here, assuming my apt-get dist-upgrade actually did upgrade me. lsb_release -a still says Feisty, but it ran through. stew From rscrawford at mossroot.com Sun Nov 18 01:37:29 2007 From: rscrawford at mossroot.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:37:29 -0800 Subject: Video Card and Motherboard/Chip Recommendations? Message-ID: <200711171737.30014.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Long story short, my wife and I just got a financial windfall, so I've decided that it's finally time to upgrade my old desktop. In that computer, my hard drives are just fine, the power supply is relatively new, the network card and sound card are adequate for my purposes, and I have a spiffy new DVD/CD RW drive that I got just a year ago. So I don't want to invest in a whole new computer. All I need is a new graphics card and a new motherboard. I'm not a hardware kind of guy, so I need some help in making some choices. Requirements: The graphics card be powerful enough to handle Compiz/Fusion (I want my wobbly windows!) plus some light gaming (nothing more exceptional than Second Life, really). I'm not above using proprietary drivers if I have to. I have a brand new 22 inch widescreen LCD monitor with a 2ms refresh rate, so the card needs to be able to handle that (I can't think of any that wouldn't but you never know). The motherboard must be capable of handling IDE drives. I looked at a few at Fry's last night that didn't have IDE controllers built in. So I'm wide open to suggestions. Anyone got any? -- Richard S. Crawford Editor-in-chief, Daikaijuzine (http://www.daikaijuzine.com) Personal website: http://www.mossroot.com Support me in the 2007 Write-a-thon: http://www.firstgiving.com/richardscrawford From lists at ptfd.org Sun Nov 18 01:42:41 2007 From: lists at ptfd.org (Michael W. Holdeman) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:42:41 -0500 Subject: Open Office Gutsy In-Reply-To: <200711172133.01012.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711172133.01012.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711172042.41723.lists@ptfd.org> On Saturday 17 November 2007 02:33:00 pm Donn wrote: > Anyone used OOO recently on Gutsy? I have found a few odd glitches that I'm > not sure how to fix. > One of them is in the PDF export. The dialogue opens with no text at all > and makes no sense. There's another problem in some of the printing screens > - empty alert boxes and odd missing text. > > Is this a Java thing? > > /d Everything is fine here.. Mike From jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com Sun Nov 18 02:02:20 2007 From: jwl_andlovesaidno at yahoo.com (joseph lockhart) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:02:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 34, Issue 56 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <91715.55551.qm@web59310.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > On Saturday 17 November 2007 03:00:10 Ronnie Tucker > wrote: > > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept > is giving me the error: > > There was an error committing changes. Possibly > there was a problem > > downloading some packages or the commit would > break packages. > > > > Never had this before and can't update things now. > My broadband is fine > > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how > to fix it? > > > > -- > > Ronnie Tucker > > Have you tried doing the update from within Konsole? > > sudo apt-get upgrade > the problem is in apt both apt-get and aptitude will give errors until you run dpkg --configure -a you will have the same problem with adept and synaptic as they are just front ends for apt. easiest thing to do is run the command in terminal and try again (though i have had less trouble updating from the commandline than from the GUI's) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Nov 18 02:08:02 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:08:02 -0500 Subject: Adept error In-Reply-To: <20071117133316.438977B867@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20071117133316.438977B867@ws5-10.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200711172108.02395.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Try running: sudo dpkg --configure -a from the command line and select one of the choices given in the response. Paul On Saturday 17 November 2007 8:33:16 am Goh Lip wrote: > > On Saturday 17 November 2007 03:00:10 Ronnie Tucker wrote: > > > Just recently (within the last few days) my Adept is giving me the > > > error: There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a > > > problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. > > > > > > Never had this before and can't update things now. My broadband is fine > > > and is available for Adept to download packages. > > > > > > Any ideas what would suddenly cause this? Or how to fix it? > > > > > > -- > > > Ronnie Tucker > > > > Have you tried doing the update from within Konsole? > > > > sudo apt-get upgrade > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Go to 'adept manager', not 'adept updater'; if you had set your server to > local server or nearest country, change it to the main server. > > Then you can go to "adept updater' and do the, uh, what else, update. Or if > you prefer, go to a console and "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get > upgrade' one more time. That should resolve it. > > I suspect that the changes are not reflected in the mirror sites causing > the problem you mentioned. > > Hope this helps. > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: > Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com > > Powered by Outblaze From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 02:09:02 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:09:02 -0800 Subject: Video Card and Motherboard/Chip Recommendations? In-Reply-To: <200711171737.30014.rscrawford@mossroot.com> References: <200711171737.30014.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Message-ID: On Nov 17, 2007 5:37 PM, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > Long story short, my wife and I just got a financial windfall, so I've decided > that it's finally time to upgrade my old desktop. In that computer, my hard > drives are just fine, the power supply is relatively new, the network card > and sound card are adequate for my purposes, and I have a spiffy new DVD/CD > RW drive that I got just a year ago. So I don't want to invest in a whole > new computer. All I need is a new graphics card and a new motherboard. I'm > not a hardware kind of guy, so I need some help in making some choices. > > Requirements: > > The graphics card be powerful enough to handle Compiz/Fusion (I want my wobbly > windows!) plus some light gaming (nothing more exceptional than Second Life, > really). I'm not above using proprietary drivers if I have to. I have a > brand new 22 inch widescreen LCD monitor with a 2ms refresh rate, so the card > needs to be able to handle that (I can't think of any that wouldn't but you > never know). I wouldn't suggest a GeForce 8-series, because they're so new the drivers tend to be a bit wonky. A GeForce 6 or 7 series PCIe should do you more than fine, and you should be able to find one for about $100, tops. > The motherboard must be capable of handling IDE drives. I looked at a few at > Fry's last night that didn't have IDE controllers built in. They got renamed "PATA" Anything that has IDE, ATA, or PATA will probably work. I haven't seen any boards recently which don't have capacity for at least two PATA drives. Of course, this may mean that you just need to upgrade to SATA ;) -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 03:06:41 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:06:41 -0500 Subject: Video Card and Motherboard/Chip Recommendations? In-Reply-To: References: <200711171737.30014.rscrawford@mossroot.com> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0711171906m2ee725b0jbe573bf2048f60c6@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 17, 2007 9:09 PM, Chris Miller wrote: > On Nov 17, 2007 5:37 PM, Richard S. Crawford > wrote: > > Long story short, my wife and I just got a financial windfall, so I've > decided > > that it's finally time to upgrade my old desktop. In that computer, my > hard > > drives are just fine, the power supply is relatively new, the network > card > > and sound card are adequate for my purposes, and I have a spiffy new > DVD/CD > > RW drive that I got just a year ago. So I don't want to invest in a > whole > > new computer. All I need is a new graphics card and a new motherboard. > I'm > > not a hardware kind of guy, so I need some help in making some choices. > > > > Requirements: > > > > The graphics card be powerful enough to handle Compiz/Fusion (I want my > wobbly > > windows!) plus some light gaming (nothing more exceptional than Second > Life, > > really). I'm not above using proprietary drivers if I have to. I have > a > > brand new 22 inch widescreen LCD monitor with a 2ms refresh rate, so the > card > > needs to be able to handle that (I can't think of any that wouldn't but > you > > never know). > > I wouldn't suggest a GeForce 8-series, because they're so new the > drivers tend to be a bit wonky. A GeForce 6 or 7 series PCIe should > do you more than fine, and you should be able to find one for about > $100, tops. > > > The motherboard must be capable of handling IDE drives. I looked at a > few at > > Fry's last night that didn't have IDE controllers built in. > > They got renamed "PATA" > > Anything that has IDE, ATA, or PATA will probably work. I haven't > seen any boards recently which don't have capacity for at least two > PATA drives. > > Of course, this may mean that you just need to upgrade to SATA ;) > > -- > Registered Linux Addict #431495 > http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman > John 3:16! > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Can not say much about motherboards till I know what cpu you will be using. Please say brand and model number or if you will be getting another about what you want to do and your budget. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From ejviolet at yahoo.com Sun Nov 18 04:16:28 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:16:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Distribution upgrade In-Reply-To: <200711172023.33554.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <22805.27149.qm@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Donn wrote: > > updates (like ubuntu). There's no way anyone's come up with to > give you a > > continuously upgraded _stable_ systems. > Short of Gentoo I suppose. Pity. Debian does pretty well with testing too. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 05:37:55 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:37:55 +0200 Subject: mail notification for t-bird? (for dapper) In-Reply-To: <200711171617.28113.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> <200711172212.30005.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711171617.28113.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711180737.55417.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Hah, you made it longer than I did. Remember how we were both going to > sick with Dapper until the next LTS came out? > (But I'm still running Feisty for now.) Heh -- the best laid plans of nerds and geeks gang aft upgrade :) /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 05:41:22 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:41:22 +0200 Subject: fiesty sound problem In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0711171359i47ebc8e5h1fd0e8939144cc4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0711171023p1eba87aeue7fa66a831723964@mail.gmail.com> <473F38B8.5090708@lemmons.name> <69c7ddfb0711171359i47ebc8e5h1fd0e8939144cc4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711180741.22625.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I did as you suggested and found the mixer controls and the specific > controls for the SB card. I tried various applications and no sound. I > did get the video. Only one application complained (kaffine stated "cant > bind socket" ) but then invoked and played the video without sound. The other thing to try (and this took me a while, I can tell you) is to *right click* the kmix speaker icon and choose "select master channel" and then fiddle. You can also open a konsole and run alsamixer - a text/gui thing that lets you muck about with all those channels. It's a matter (assuming all else is plugged in to the motherboard properly) of finding whre Kubu thinks your sound is coming from. /d -- "There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its people became too reasonable." -- Sam Harris From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 05:43:41 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:43:41 +0200 Subject: Open Office Gutsy In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711171351q394e9939h26e120c279bf4210@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711172133.01012.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9bed467e0711171351q394e9939h26e120c279bf4210@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711180743.41599.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Are you perhaps running Compiz/Beryl? 3D Desktops have been known to Weeeellll ... I do have transparency set on KDE. Just KDE's own thingum, no fancy 3d stuff, but -- will give it a try. /d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 05:52:05 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:52:05 +0200 Subject: Gutsy won't recognise a blank DVD In-Reply-To: <473F7795.3000005@ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <473F7795.3000005@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711180752.05390.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Even in K3B the disc is not recognised as being valid. Although the > system can still recognise and play previously burned DVD's no problem. 1. It might be a bad disk - try another. 2. Run K3B from the konsole, perhaps it will produce extra info. 3. Run "dmesg" from konsole, look for error messages. 4. There are other tools to try manual burning, but that's such an arcane art I fear for my sanity in cracking open my notes. But, it does produce a lot of info about what's going on. mkisofs and dvd+rw-format are a start. I hate it when random stuff like this happens, but it never looks so bad after the problem is found, so just keep hacking. /d From nigel at rmk.co.il Sun Nov 18 06:07:42 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:07:42 +0200 Subject: Gutsy won't recognise a blank DVD In-Reply-To: <473F7795.3000005@ronnietucker.co.uk> References: <473F7795.3000005@ronnietucker.co.uk> Message-ID: <473FD6AE.6080209@rmk.co.il> Ronnie Tucker wrote: > I burned a DVD this morning yet this afternoon, done no changes to the > system, Kubuntu won't recognise a blank DVD. I put in a blank and it > shows me the yellow disc icon on the desktop (no usual window saying > 'what would you like to do with this?') and when I click it Dolphin > reports (at the bottom of an empty window) the error: > > Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: > klauncher said: Unknown protocol ". > . > > Even in K3B the disc is not recognised as being valid. Although the > system can still recognise and play previously burned DVD's no problem. > > *sob* > > Beginning to think my Gutsy install is falling apart at the seams :( > I had a similar problem lately - it was the DVD burner! It would read OK but the burner part was not working properly so got the same problems as you. I bought a new one (really cheap nowadays) and no problems since \0/ Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sun Nov 18 05:12:56 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:12:56 +0100 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <87hcjkuofb.fsf@fjellstad.org> Wulfy writes: > In what other area would you need spam detection? The only way that I'm > aware of that spam gets onto my system is through e-mail. So the e-mail > client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. Other what the other people said. One thing about decoupling the spam filter and email client is that you then can change your spam filter without changing your client. Say, you're not happy with the performance of bogofilter. Just install spamassassin instead. And it doesn't matter which email client you are using, everything will work as it always has. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 06:22:59 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:22:59 +0200 Subject: Email Client Message-ID: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Why isn't it up to the user to decide whether s/he wants to send html > mail? I'd call this an HTML email. I can't seem to set a background image, but this is HTML text. Get the HTML toolbar to show and off you go. What am I missing? :) /d (Shudder - I feel dirty now) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can grab the tarball here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW Just untar it and put the plugin, called libflashplayer.so where you usually put your plugins for FFx. See if it works then. Cheers, Jonathan > john d. herron wrote: > > >> Hi, Jonathan. >> Thanks for your suggestion. Typing about:plugins in the FF navigation >> bar yields... (snip) Shockwave Flash File name: libflashplayer.so >> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48 >> >> MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled >> application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes >> application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes >> >> (snip) >> >> Thanks for helping. >> jdh >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 06:52:07 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:52:07 -0500 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 In-Reply-To: <473FDDC8.7040902@bluewin.ch> References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> <473EA011.5030100@bluewin.ch> <473FDDC8.7040902@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711172252w51203813r53672a7174c913b3@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 18, 2007 1:38 AM, john d. herron wrote: > > Jonathan, > As you can see from my last message (below), I already have the plugin for > FFX Flash 9 r48 (libflashplayer.so) installed. > Any other possibilities ? What if I was to remove a l l of the plugins > currently > present in /.mozilla/firedox, so as to have a clean slate, then re-download > and install > FFX Flash 9 r48 only? > Thanks for helping > john Just a guess, but maybe you don't need _three_ flash plugins to play flash videos? Your previous email showed that you have libgnashplugin.so, libflashplayer.so, and libflash-mozplugin.so. Maybe they are interfering with each other and you should just choose one (probably best to go with libflashplayer.so). You probably don't need to delete _all_ of the plugins, just the other two that you don't want. Do this and see if it works. If not, delete the libflashplayer.so and reinstall using Johnathan's suggestions. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 08:26:31 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:26:31 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <880dece00711180026s1a48233dkf5990e51c3809db2@mail.gmail.com> On 15/11/2007, Tipton, Timothy wrote: > > Kontact (KMail is hidden inside it). > > Ahhhhhhhhh - I was unaware of this; I _know_ I have Kontact, just didn't > know Kmail was inside. > > Thank you very much, I'll check it out. > > Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to > say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? > > Thanks! > Tim > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Kmail is one of the better email programs available today. It's keyboard shortcuts are much better than Thunderbirds. It is also much faster and on KDE system less resource intensive. The only problem that I have with Kmail is the BogoFilter (or similar name) spam filter takes a very long time to run. I get over 2000 spam messages per day, so this is critical to me. If you get in the neighborhood of 100 or less spams per day, I doubt that this would be an issue. I really should file a bug report. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 08:33:40 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:33:40 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711170956.58184.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF632.6040602@swbell.net> <200711170956.58184.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <880dece00711180033x55fbef86h159969f84d3ac22@mail.gmail.com> On 17/11/2007, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your > >> email client, when it's a separate task. > > > >Why? > > > >To me it seems that would be the obvious place. > > No, is not. That puts all the onus to do all this into a foreground task, > kmail, which when it has to do all that, freezes your user interface, > sometimes for rather extended periods of time. This should more properly be > done as background tasks, separate from kmail itself. I'd agree, except for the fact that false positives/negatives need to be marked. I go through the spam pile once a week and check all 15000 of them. > Here, I pull from 3 servers, as an unpriviledged user, with fetchmail running > every 90 seconds as a background task, which hands it off to procmail, also > running as a normal user, which in turn runs most of it through spamassassin > before dumping it into that users mail spool. Then kmail, running as root > cuz I do, pulls from that spool file, sorts it into the various folders and > presents it to me to read. You run Kmail as root? Who are you and what have you done with Gene? > And procmail/spamassassin are fairly well trained > so its pretty safe to have procmail dump those with high spam ratings (7+) > straight to /dev/null. I train on what gets through, watch the logs and > haven't had a false positive except for some of the junk my kids & their > winderz boxes send me. How do you train? Details, because I just may adapt your strategy. > The next door neighbor also sends me all sorts of > chain letter crap that while we're good friends, winds up in /dev/null too. > > So the only pauses in kmail's composer now is only a second or two while its > doing that sorting of what procmail actually passes. That's a much nicer > user experience IMNSHO. FWIW, Tbird doesn't pause at all when marking spam. You wouldn't believe how quick it marks them. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kassube at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 08:40:09 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:40:09 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711180940.09878.kassube@gmx.net> Donn wrote: > I'd call this an HTML email. > (Shudder - I feel dirty now) It could be worse :) At least you included a clear text version, so it is none of those really annoying HTML only mails. But I think you can't do that with Kmail. Nils From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 08:47:19 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:47:19 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711180940.09878.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711180940.09878.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711181047.20028.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > At least you included a clear text version, so it is none of those really > annoying HTML only mails. News to me :) I did not know I was doing that. > But I think you can't do that with Kmail. I used kmail - that was the point. But I don't see any way to prepare an HTML file (with tables etc.) and send it as the email. Perhaps there's a trick. /d From kassube at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 09:13:26 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:13:26 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711181047.20028.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711180940.09878.kassube@gmx.net> <200711181047.20028.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711181013.26090.kassube@gmx.net> Donn wrote: > I used kmail - that was the point. > > But I don't see any way to prepare an HTML file (with tables etc.) and > send it as the email. I suppose that's what would make it a "real" HTML mail. > Perhaps there's a trick. Yes, there is: Use outlook instead of Kmail :) Nils From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 09:23:08 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:23:08 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711181013.26090.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711181047.20028.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711181013.26090.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711181123.08915.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > Perhaps there's a trick. > Yes, there is: Use outlook instead of Kmail :) I am shocked! Blasphemy hath been uttered upon our sacred list :D /d From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Sun Nov 18 09:31:49 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:31:49 +0100 Subject: Email Client References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <871wanc322.fsf@fjellstad.org> Donn writes: > I'd call this an HTML email. I can't seem to set a background image, > but this is HTML text. > > Get the HTML toolbar to show and off you go. > What am I missing? The complains I've seen is that kmail doesn't do complete html (so no tables, background image etc etc). Don't look at me, I use mutt :-) -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 10:28:23 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:28:23 +0200 Subject: Firefox 2 Gutsy and profiles Message-ID: <200711181228.23719.donn.ingle@gmail.com> This is driving me nuts! I'm used to starting FF with -ProfileManager so I get to choose which profile I want. Since Gutsy it works the first time you run FF, but thereafter no matter what you do, it always opens the one that's already open! firefox -ProfileManager Fine - it opens. I choose foo firefox -P blah Does not open blah, it opens another window of foo. firefox -ProfileManager Does not open the manager - it opens foo again. Arrgh! Halp! /d -- He has Van Gogh's ear for music. -- Billy Wilder From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Nov 18 10:43:14 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:43:14 +0100 Subject: Firefox 2 Gutsy and profiles In-Reply-To: <200711181228.23719.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711181228.23719.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: Donn wrote the following on 18.11.2007 11:28 <<-snip->> > it works the first time you > run FF, but thereafter no matter what you do, it always opens the one that's > already open! <<-snip->> afaik between changing the profiles all open FF windows must be closed. bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 10:50:08 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:50:08 +0200 Subject: Firefox 2 Gutsy and profiles In-Reply-To: References: <200711181228.23719.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711181250.08920.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > afaik between changing the profiles all open FF windows must be closed. Not so. Unless it's changed, and that's a backwards change. In FF 1.5 under Dapper I could mix and match profiles with no problem. I have also done it with FF2 on Windows. /d From T.Six at gmx.de Sun Nov 18 10:45:13 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:45:13 +0100 Subject: Version upgrade In-Reply-To: <473F2929.4060708@gmail.com> References: <473F2929.4060708@gmail.com> Message-ID: Stew Schneider wrote the following on 17.11.2007 18:47 > Well, I screwed my courage to the sticking place and did apt-get > dist-upgrade. There was an error about some security updates, which > Jonathan answered for me. Today I entered lsb_release -a and it still > shows 7.04. I did a second apt-get dist-upgrade and got some more > packages, but lsb_release still thinks I'm 7.04, even after a reboot. > > What did I do wrong??? > > stew What is the content of your sources.list? bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 11:46:26 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:46:26 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <871wanc322.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <871wanc322.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> On 18/11/2007, John L Fjellstad wrote: > > Don't look at me, I use mutt :-) Like this guy? http://www.neatorama.com/2007/11/14/man-married-dog-to-void-curse/ Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 11:53:49 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:53:49 +0200 Subject: Firefox 2 Gutsy and profiles In-Reply-To: References: <200711181228.23719.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711181353.49149.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Well, I found something that works: firefox -a blah Will open the manager (but not blah) and you can then choose blah (again). What a pain, but it's better than closing FF everytime. /d From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 18 12:16:16 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:16:16 +0000 Subject: Disk Utility For Kubuntu? Message-ID: <20071118121616.4eade4c3@graham-desktop> Is there an application in Kubuntu that has the same functionality as the Disk Utility in OSX, with the same sort of gui? The gui need not be the same, but I find Disk Utility's interface clean and uncluttered. Is there anything similar available in Kubuntu? -- Graham Todd From wjsvt at sover.net Sun Nov 18 12:23:03 2007 From: wjsvt at sover.net (WJ Seidl) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:23:03 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <87lk8wuswo.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473F36FA.40904@lemmons.name> <200711171709.26224.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <87lk8wuswo.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <47402EA7.8070300@sover.net> John L Fjellstad wrote: > "D. Michael McIntyre" writes: > > >> Personally, I admire the KMail team for sticking to their guns on this >> one. >> > > Why isn't it up to the user to decide whether s/he wants to send html > mail? > > Just my 3 cents here, but that is the one reason I went to Thunderbird over KMail. In T-Bird, if you do not specify when you add a contact which version of mail they can receive, T-Bird asks you each time you hit "send". But then, Thunderbird isn't KMail. Best, Wayne Seidl From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 12:45:02 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:45:02 +0200 Subject: Disk Utility For Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20071118121616.4eade4c3@graham-desktop> References: <20071118121616.4eade4c3@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <200711181445.02580.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Is there an application in Kubuntu that has the same functionality as > the Disk Utility in OSX, with the same sort of gui? What does it do? /d From DayWalker5192 at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 13:17:32 2007 From: DayWalker5192 at gmx.net (Rene) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:17:32 +0100 Subject: Kontract with other EMail Client In-Reply-To: <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <871wanc322.fsf@fjellstad.org> <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks. I'm new on this list so hi to everyone. And here is my first question. Is it possible to bind another email client as KMail in Kontract....Thunderbird for example ? Rene -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQDtrGf4x83pPwTsRAlyHAJ4/ehum9HjZMK+WXeFKnqee35U4yACgrDH3 mrVZqq6N6vVKFGXsBTh6z7s= =kSUx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 13:46:21 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:46:21 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <47402EA7.8070300@sover.net> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473F36FA.40904@lemmons.name> <200711171709.26224.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <87lk8wuswo.fsf@fjellstad.org> <47402EA7.8070300@sover.net> Message-ID: <880dece00711180546h7d0eb36eud4852512467d492b@mail.gmail.com> On 18/11/2007, WJ Seidl wrote: > > > John L Fjellstad wrote: > > "D. Michael McIntyre" writes: > > > > > >> Personally, I admire the KMail team for sticking to their guns on this > >> one. > >> > > > > Why isn't it up to the user to decide whether s/he wants to send html > > mail? > > > > > > Just my 3 cents here, but that is the one reason I went to Thunderbird over KMail. > In T-Bird, if you do not specify when you add a contact which version of mail they can receive, > T-Bird asks you each time you hit "send". > > But then, Thunderbird isn't KMail. > Best, > Wayne Seidl That sounds annoying. You can set a global preference, I forgot where, but if you have trouble finding it I'll look for it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 18 13:56:48 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:56:48 +0000 Subject: Disk Utility For Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <200711181445.02580.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <20071118121616.4eade4c3@graham-desktop> <200711181445.02580.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071118135648.336b15ba@graham-desktop> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:45:02 +0200 Donn wrote: > What does it do? Disk Utility is the application which comes with Mac OSX ("Tiger") - I don't know about other flavours of OSX- that can verify your disks (hard drives, external drives, usb sticks, etc), repair your disks, check the permissions of the drive, erase the drive, copy one drive or partition to another, partition it (in a range of formats), etc. I'm aware some of these actions can be undertaken in a rage of applications in Linux (gparted is one) but the gui makes it easy and is less fussy than other Linux apps I've seen. Moreover, disks which don't show up when I've added them as mass storage devices, have shown up when I've connected to them to my ageing PowerMac G4, and the design of the interface is IMHO much better than that of gparted. Is it possible that there is a gui application for Kubuntu that gives the same type of functionality with an improved (IMO) gui? -- Graham Todd From kassube at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 16:15:02 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:15:02 +0100 Subject: Kontract with other EMail Client In-Reply-To: <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711181715.02824.kassube@gmx.net> Rene wrote: > Is it possible to bind another email client as KMail in > Kontract....Thunderbird for example ? I don't know if it works with Kontact (I have no other email client installed), but you could try this: Goto System Settings -> Personal / KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Email Client. Select "Use a different email client:" and enter the path to thunderbird. Nils From jdkaye10 at yahoo.es Sun Nov 18 17:00:02 2007 From: jdkaye10 at yahoo.es (Jonathan Kaye) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:00:02 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> <473EA011.5030100@bluewin.ch> <473FDDC8.7040902@bluewin.ch> <9bed467e0711172252w51203813r53672a7174c913b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On Nov 18, 2007 1:38 AM, john d. herron wrote: >> >> Jonathan, >> As you can see from my last message (below), I already have the plugin >> for FFX Flash 9 r48 (libflashplayer.so) installed. >> Any other possibilities ? What if I was to remove a l l of the plugins >> currently >> present in /.mozilla/firedox, so as to have a clean slate, then >> re-download >> and install >> FFX Flash 9 r48 only? >> Thanks for helping >> john > > Just a guess, but maybe you don't need _three_ flash plugins to play > flash videos? Your previous email showed that you have > libgnashplugin.so, libflashplayer.so, and libflash-mozplugin.so. > Maybe they are interfering with each other and you should just choose > one (probably best to go with libflashplayer.so). You probably don't > need to delete _all_ of the plugins, just the other two that you don't > want. Do this and see if it works. If not, delete the > libflashplayer.so and reinstall using Johnathan's suggestions. > > Andrew > I agree with Andrew. Definitely get rid of all but one of the flash plugins. As to where to put it, you say you put it in "/.mozilla/firefox" I assume you mean ~/.mozilla/firefox (where ~ means your home directory). This will not work on my system (I've tried it) and I put mine here: ~/.mozilla/plugins/. Note that this is not system-wide and will apply only to the user whose home directory the plugin is in. Cheers, Jonathan -- Registerd Linux user #445917 at http://counter.li.org/ Please do not send me copies of list mail. I read the lists. Thanks! From DayWalker5192 at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 17:02:24 2007 From: DayWalker5192 at gmx.net (Rene) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:02:24 +0100 Subject: Kontract with other EMail Client In-Reply-To: <200711181715.02824.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> <200711181715.02824.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47407020.7080708@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Nils Kassube wrote: > Rene wrote: >> Is it possible to bind another email client as KMail in >> Kontract....Thunderbird for example ? > > I don't know if it works with Kontact (I have no other email client > installed), but you could try this: Goto System Settings -> Personal / > KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Email Client. Select "Use a > different email client:" and enter the path to thunderbird. > > > Nils > ...nice idea. but nothing changed....KMail ist still the default eMail client in Kontact. It drives me nuts ! Rene -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQHAgGf4x83pPwTsRAiO7AKC2xm52oWQelxVIR4U0rHpYQGEfFwCfbN9e UotmceVnf1uJq4eg5F2uSlY= =Zo30 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Nov 18 17:23:41 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:23:41 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <880dece00711180033x55fbef86h159969f84d3ac22@mail.gmail.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711170956.58184.gene.heskett@verizon.net> <880dece00711180033x55fbef86h159969f84d3ac22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711181223.41293.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 18 November 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: >On 17/11/2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> you shouldn't have spam detection implemented _in_ your >> >> email client, when it's a separate task. >> > >> >Why? >> > >> >To me it seems that would be the obvious place. >> >> No, is not. That puts all the onus to do all this into a foreground task, >> kmail, which when it has to do all that, freezes your user interface, >> sometimes for rather extended periods of time. This should more properly >> be done as background tasks, separate from kmail itself. > >I'd agree, except for the fact that false positives/negatives need to >be marked. I go through the spam pile once a week and check all 15000 >of them. > So do I, that which procmail doesn't dispose of first. I sort it into folders according to which server it came from and inspect it before deleting. >> Here, I pull from 3 servers, as an unpriviledged user, with fetchmail >> running every 90 seconds as a background task, which hands it off to >> procmail, also running as a normal user, which in turn runs most of it >> through spamassassin before dumping it into that users mail spool. Then >> kmail, running as root cuz I do, pulls from that spool file, sorts it into >> the various folders and presents it to me to read. > >You run Kmail as root? Who are you and what have you done with Gene? Oh, I'm Gene alright, or was the last time I walked by the hall mirror. :) As for the root operation, its my box. I use the su - command to do what needs to be done as the user, like amanda for example, but normally I'm root 99.9% of the time here. There is also a DD-WRT on an old x86 box firewall between me & the net. Which means 99.9% of the problems here are PEBKAC caused. The other .1% that I haven't found yet might be because I run bleeding edge kernels here, 2.6.24-rc3 ATM. >> And procmail/spamassassin are fairly well trained >> so its pretty safe to have procmail dump those with high spam ratings (7+) >> straight to /dev/null. I train on what gets through, watch the logs and >> haven't had a false positive except for some of the junk my kids & their >> winderz boxes send me. > >How do you train? Details, because I just may adapt your strategy. > My list of filters in kmail is sorted such that everything is disposed of before it gets to the last 2 or 3 rules, so in essence I have 2 sets of rules, and the sa-learn-ham and sa-learn-spam are saved in this never reached region of the list, and are checkmarked so they show up as optionals at the bottom of the message pulldown. When I have a false positive, I move it to the ham folder, pull down the message menu to the apply filter and select the sa-learn-ham filter. Spam that doesn't get caught gets moved to a spam folder and when there's 30 or so, I hi-lite them all and select the sa-learn-spam filter & go get a refill if theres any in the pot. It might be done by the time I get back if I stop & make small talk with the missus, who's probably doing a crossword puzzle. >> So the only pauses in kmail's composer now is only a second or two while >> its doing that sorting of what procmail actually passes. That's a much >> nicer user experience IMNSHO. > >FWIW, Tbird doesn't pause at all when marking spam. You wouldn't >believe how quick it marks them. Yes, I know its quick, but its also unmitigated hell to configure too. If one didn't write that code, one has NDI where all the special keystrokes to do this and that are, cuz the docs suck. kmail is 'intuitive'. I did use TB, for quite a while when I was last sitting in a motel in upstate Michigan. That was because I hadn't configured kmail on the lappy, now I have. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Linux; a re-Gnu-able resource. -- Gareth Barnard From gene.heskett at verizon.net Sun Nov 18 17:26:14 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:26:14 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711181013.26090.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711181047.20028.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711181013.26090.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711181226.14211.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Sunday 18 November 2007, Nils Kassube wrote: >Donn wrote: >> I used kmail - that was the point. >> >> But I don't see any way to prepare an HTML file (with tables etc.) and >> send it as the email. > >I suppose that's what would make it a "real" HTML mail. > >> Perhaps there's a trick. > >Yes, there is: Use outlook instead of Kmail :) > Now go warsh yur mouth out with some of Grandma's Lye soap. > >Nils -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "Morality is one thing. Ratings are everything." - A Network 23 executive on "Max Headroom" From k7qo at commspeed.net Sun Nov 18 17:28:52 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:28:52 -0700 Subject: change from 7.04 to 7.10 and evolution Message-ID: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> This morning the task bar showed that some updates were available and as a good user I clicked on the icon and started the updates. Then I was notified that a system upgrade was available, so what the heck, let's do that too. After completion I rebooted the system. When I brought up Evolution again to get my email I got an error message about the password not being accepted, so typed it in again, and the error message repeats. OK. I can get my mail OK and send mail (since you are getting this). But the consol window is continuously spitting out the following error message: (evolution:6987): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed fff and I get screen after screen of this garbage. If I terminate evolution the noise quits. uname -a shows Linux kubuntu7 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux I'm going to work on this problem for a while, but asking here at the start in hopes that some one in the group has an answer. I may be the only individual in the universe with this problem. This is a Compaq Presario SR1550NX with AMD 64 with 2GB of ram, nvidia graphics 120GB hard drive. I have another HP Slimline with 2GB of ram that I will take the 7.10 kubuntu distro disc and install and see what happens to see if the problem replicates itself for evolution. FYI Chuck Adams From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun Nov 18 17:30:20 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:30:20 -0500 Subject: Kontract with other EMail Client In-Reply-To: <47407020.7080708@gmx.net> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> <200711181715.02824.kassube@gmx.net> <47407020.7080708@gmx.net> Message-ID: <474076AC.5040804@midmaine.com> Rene wrote: > > Nils Kassube wrote: >> Rene wrote: >>> Is it possible to bind another email client as KMail in >>> Kontract....Thunderbird for example ? >> I don't know if it works with Kontact (I have no other email client >> installed), but you could try this: Goto System Settings -> Personal / >> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Email Client. Select "Use a >> different email client:" and enter the path to thunderbird. >> >> >> Nils >> > ...nice idea. but nothing changed....KMail ist still the default eMail > client > in Kontact. It drives me nuts ! > > Rene The above steps will only change the default email client Kubunbtu uses. You cannot embed another email client into contact. claydoh From DayWalker5192 at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 18:03:29 2007 From: DayWalker5192 at gmx.net (Rene) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:03:29 +0100 Subject: Kontract with other EMail Client In-Reply-To: <474076AC.5040804@midmaine.com> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> <200711181715.02824.kassube@gmx.net> <47407020.7080708@gmx.net> <474076AC.5040804@midmaine.com> Message-ID: <47407E71.3010404@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > The above steps will only change the default email client Kubunbtu uses. > You cannot embed another email client into contact. > > claydoh > > all right. its a pity. but thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQH5xGf4x83pPwTsRAi2/AJwLWlDbBUwn0IDaDNl54yMJVTju7wCbBK97 82miJdBDHXzLRjz9PmrHkII= =89XO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 18:34:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:34:59 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <20071115213809.ihhxcigaw4kcgs4s@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> <1575415.cZQzEIHQCf@cedar.serverforest.com> <473EF6DF.3030904@tiscali.co.uk> <87hcjkuofb.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <1423226.r0Fze82dsY@cedar.serverforest.com> John L Fjellstad wrote: > Wulfy writes: > >> In what other area would you need spam detection? The only way that I'm >> aware of that spam gets onto my system is through e-mail. So the e-mail >> client *is* the appropriate place to put the spam detecting task, IMHO. > > Other what the other people said. One thing about decoupling the spam > filter and email client is that you then can change your spam filter > without changing your client. Say, you're not happy with the > performance of bogofilter. Just install spamassassin instead. Er, I think you got that backwards :-) ime, spamassassin was never fast enough to run inside KMail, bogofilter is. But, of course, YMMV -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 18:31:43 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:31:43 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711180940.09878.kassube@gmx.net> <200711181047.20028.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711181013.26090.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1516521.1MiMS1a2U9@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Donn wrote: >> I used kmail - that was the point. >> >> But I don't see any way to prepare an HTML file (with tables etc.) and >> send it as the email. > > I suppose that's what would make it a "real" HTML mail. > >> Perhaps there's a trick. > > Yes, there is: Use outlook instead of Kmail :) Exactly. Much as I hate Outlook, that's what I end up using when I really want to send an HTML mail. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 18:25:01 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:25:01 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2156992.g63pFxpY2h@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> Why isn't it up to the user to decide whether s/he wants to send html >> mail? > > I'd call this an HTML email. I can't seem to set a background image, but > this is HTML text. > > Get the HTML toolbar to show and off you go. > What am I missing? > > :) Almost everything. All you can do is format some text. It is a _very_ long way from real HTML mail. > /d > (Shudder - I feel dirty now) Understandable :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 18:38:56 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:38:56 -0400 Subject: Distribution upgrade References: <473CCE36.1030906@gmail.com> <200711171900.30091.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <2693688.tduBMzGH8C@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711172023.33554.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9213983.UbQsXkudrU@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> updates (like ubuntu). There's no way anyone's come up with to give you >> a continuously upgraded _stable_ systems. > Short of Gentoo I suppose. Pity. How can it be "stable" if people are continuously making changes to it? -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 18:30:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:30:39 -0400 Subject: Kontract with other EMail Client References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> <200711181715.02824.kassube@gmx.net> <47407020.7080708@gmx.net> Message-ID: <13450091.77HSiSV5qC@cedar.serverforest.com> Rene wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: >> Rene wrote: >>> Is it possible to bind another email client as KMail in >>> Kontract....Thunderbird for example ? Kontact! >> I don't know if it works with Kontact (I have no other email client >> installed), but you could try this: Goto System Settings -> Personal / >> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Email Client. Select "Use a >> different email client:" and enter the path to thunderbird. >> >> > ...nice idea. but nothing changed....KMail ist still the default eMail > client in Kontact. It drives me nuts ! KMail is integrated with kontact - it's not tightly coupled to kontact, but it _is_ coupled, and there's no way that thunderbird could replace it. Just completely turn off kmail in kontact, if you don't want it. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 18:37:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:37:00 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473F36FA.40904@lemmons.name> <200711171709.26224.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <87lk8wuswo.fsf@fjellstad.org> <47402EA7.8070300@sover.net> Message-ID: <1419932.bHfYrN3Jdg@cedar.serverforest.com> WJ Seidl wrote: > Just my 3 cents here, but that is the one reason I went to Thunderbird > over KMail. In T-Bird, if you do not specify when you add a contact which > version of mail they can receive, T-Bird asks you each time you hit > "send". I can't help thinking that you're not a typical user. Most of us would turn off the prompt... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 18:22:44 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:22:44 -0400 Subject: change from 7.04 to 7.10 and evolution References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <1851964.VK0AIltziQ@cedar.serverforest.com> adams wrote: > This morning the task bar showed that some updates > were available and as a good user I clicked on the > icon and started the updates. Then I was notified > that a system upgrade was available, so what the > heck, let's do that too. > > After completion I rebooted the system. When I > brought up Evolution again to get my email I got Since Evolution is a Gnome app, even though you're using Kubuntu, I'd suggest you're more likely to find help on the ubuntu-users list. I doubt many of us here are using evolution. -- derek From bbales at cox.net Sun Nov 18 19:45:58 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:45:58 -0600 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 Message-ID: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> Hi, Guys, I downloaded the iso for Kubuntu Gutsy 7.10 to update my Dapper 6.06 systems and burned the CD using k3b. Spent an hour trying to get that working0 and then downloaded another iso from another mirror and got the same result. Time to read the README; it talks about SMB, a smart loader for floppy disks. I cursed a while then went to another machine that has a floppy drive, booted into Dapper and did a sudo dd if=SMB.bin of=/mnt/floppy/SMB.bin Machine says it's a non-system disk. How do I make the floppy into a system disk? bruce From k7qo at commspeed.net Sun Nov 18 19:54:14 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (adams) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:54:14 -0700 Subject: change from 7.04 to 7.10 and evolution In-Reply-To: <1851964.VK0AIltziQ@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1851964.VK0AIltziQ@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 14:22 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > Since Evolution is a Gnome app, even though you're using Kubuntu, I'd > suggest you're more likely to find help on the ubuntu-users list. I doubt > many of us here are using evolution. > -- > derek > > OK, I'll bite. What is the preferred mail utility for kubuntu? Chuck From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 19:56:08 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:56:08 +0200 Subject: fiesty sound problem In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0711181136i32294366g3048732ebc9f044f@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0711171023p1eba87aeue7fa66a831723964@mail.gmail.com> <200711180741.22625.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <69c7ddfb0711181136i32294366g3048732ebc9f044f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711182156.08849.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > the adology card. Is there a way to do that or am doing things the weong > way. Thanks for your help. All I know was in my prev post. Try it again ... move slowly :) you might have missed something. Oh, you can also see what's in kcontrol (run it from Alt-F2) under sound settings. /d From samrog131 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 18 19:55:52 2007 From: samrog131 at hotmail.com (Sam Rog) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:55:52 +0200 Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:17:09 +0100 > From: Jan Torben Heuer > Subject: scanning ext3 filesystem on shutdown and not bootup? > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi, > > is there a plugin/script whatever that can tell me something like: > > "next check of /dev/foo/ in x days. [shutdown] [shutdown & check fs]" ? > > Would perfectly fit into the shutdown dialog ;-) > > > Jan Hi ! Maybe this: AutoFsck https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck " Check can be done on shutdown or after a quick reboot (machine is then halted)" Rog131 _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DayWalker5192 at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 19:57:20 2007 From: DayWalker5192 at gmx.net (Rene) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:57:20 +0100 Subject: Kontract with other EMail Client In-Reply-To: <13450091.77HSiSV5qC@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200711180823.00105.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <880dece00711180346v45c8ac16kc75ca76df1f62a2f@mail.gmail.com> <47403B6C.7070609@gmx.net> <200711181715.02824.kassube@gmx.net> <47407020.7080708@gmx.net> <13450091.77HSiSV5qC@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <47409920.1030002@gmx.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Derek Broughton wrote: > Rene wrote: > >> Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Rene wrote: >>>> Is it possible to bind another email client as KMail in >>>> Kontract....Thunderbird for example ? > > Kontact! .....got it ! :-) > >>> I don't know if it works with Kontact (I have no other email client >>> installed), but you could try this: Goto System Settings -> Personal / >>> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Email Client. Select "Use a >>> different email client:" and enter the path to thunderbird. >>> >>> >> ...nice idea. but nothing changed....KMail ist still the default eMail >> client in Kontact. It drives me nuts ! > > KMail is integrated with kontact - it's not tightly coupled to kontact, but > it _is_ coupled, and there's no way that thunderbird could replace it. > Just completely turn off kmail in kontact, if you don't want it. .....done. Thanks for your help ! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHQJkfGf4x83pPwTsRAtBOAKCMI61Cs3xUtbwwTG4/0Fng1CD3YACfQyUa S1ag/M7tqeE0YHTA52NFlO4= =j9Sg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bbales at cox.net Sun Nov 18 19:58:42 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:58:42 -0600 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: <200711181358.42378.bbales@cox.net> On Sunday 18 November 2007 13:45, Bruce Bales wrote: > Hi, Guys, > > I downloaded the iso for Kubuntu Gutsy 7.10 to update my Dapper > 6.06 systems and burned the CD using k3b. Spent an hour trying to > get that working0 and then downloaded another iso from another > mirror and got the same result. > > Time to read the README; it talks about SMB, a smart loader for > floppy disks. I cursed a while then went to another machine that > has a floppy drive, booted into Dapper and did a > > sudo dd if=SMB.bin of=/mnt/floppy/SMB.bin > > Machine says it's a non-system disk. > > How do I make the floppy into a system disk? > > bruce Oops: I meant to say sbm up above, not smb. bruce From kassube at gmx.net Sun Nov 18 20:13:09 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:13:09 +0100 Subject: change from 7.04 to 7.10 and evolution In-Reply-To: <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1851964.VK0AIltziQ@cedar.serverforest.com> <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <200711182113.09098.kassube@gmx.net> adams wrote: > OK, I'll bite. What is the preferred mail utility for kubuntu? Kmail - it is part of Kontact and you won't find it in the menues. Nils From mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 18 20:26:19 2007 From: mickeyboa at sbcglobal.net (Jim) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:26:19 -0500 Subject: Adept locking during update Message-ID: <47409FEB.3050809@sbcglobal.net> Kubuntu-7.10 Adept is locking up computer during update and another time it won't get updates. From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 18 20:27:29 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:27:29 -0400 Subject: change from 7.04 to 7.10 and evolution References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1851964.VK0AIltziQ@cedar.serverforest.com> <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <1512784.NrQzofy4Pz@cedar.serverforest.com> adams wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 14:22 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> Since Evolution is a Gnome app, even though you're using Kubuntu, I'd >> suggest you're more likely to find help on the ubuntu-users list. I >> doubt many of us here are using evolution. > > OK, I'll bite. What is the preferred mail utility for kubuntu? No idea what's _preferred_, but kmail comes as part of Kubuntu, and integrates with kontact. evolution's from the Dark Side :-) Recent discussion about mail programs here would show that a good number of users are using Thunderbird, then of course there are always the primitives who haven't left mutt (ooh, I'm going to get hurt for that...). -- derek From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 21:18:06 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:18:06 -0800 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <47402EA7.8070300@sover.net> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711171903.26907.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <473F36FA.40904@lemmons.name> <200711171709.26224.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <87lk8wuswo.fsf@fjellstad.org> <47402EA7.8070300@sover.net> Message-ID: <4740AC0E.9050701@gmail.com> WJ Seidl wrote: > John L Fjellstad wrote: > >> "D. Michael McIntyre" writes: >> >> >> >>> Personally, I admire the KMail team for sticking to their guns on this >>> one. >>> >>> >> Why isn't it up to the user to decide whether s/he wants to send html >> mail? >> >> >> > > Just my 3 cents here, but that is the one reason I went to Thunderbird over KMail. > In T-Bird, if you do not specify when you add a contact which version of mail they can receive, > T-Bird asks you each time you hit "send". > I used to use KMail and I set a global preference to send in plain-text. You just need to look harder :) From k7qo at commspeed.net Sun Nov 18 21:35:43 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (Chuck Adams) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:35:43 -0700 Subject: Mailer Preferences In-Reply-To: <1512784.NrQzofy4Pz@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1512784.NrQzofy4Pz@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711181435.43321.k7qo@commspeed.net> OK, I went with Kmail. Easy to setup and seems to work pretty well, so far. Thanks for the suggestion. It was just that when I moved to Kubuntu from another distro I started with evolution and stuck with it. Wasn't broken until now, even under KDE. Thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net/ Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water, please. From stew.schneider at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 21:52:58 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:52:58 -0500 Subject: Version upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <473F2929.4060708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4740B43A.8020404@gmail.com> Thilo Six wrote: > Stew Schneider wrote the following on 17.11.2007 18:47 > >> Well, I screwed my courage to the sticking place and did apt-get >> dist-upgrade. There was an error about some security updates, which >> Jonathan answered for me. Today I entered lsb_release -a and it still >> shows 7.04. I did a second apt-get dist-upgrade and got some more >> packages, but lsb_release still thinks I'm 7.04, even after a reboot. >> >> What did I do wrong??? >> >> stew >> > > What is the content of your sources.list?(Blush) > > I didn't RTFM. That's what I did. I'm upgraded now to Gutsy, but having quite a bit of trouble with Audacity. I use that rather a lot, so I'll have to spend some time running that down. stew From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 22:03:29 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:03:29 -0700 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: <4740B6B1.6010104@gmail.com> Bruce Bales said the following at 11/18/2007 12:45 PM : > Hi, Guys, > > I downloaded the iso for Kubuntu Gutsy 7.10 to update my Dapper 6.06 > systems and burned the CD using k3b. Spent an hour trying to get > that working0 and then downloaded another iso from another mirror and > got the same result. > What do you mean when you say that you spent an hour "trying to get that working"? What didn't work: Didn't it boot? Did it fail during the installation? Did it install fine but fail to boot afterwards? Please give us more information. I for one can't even guess what part of the process failed, so I have no idea how to suggest you go about fixing it. Doc From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 22:26:47 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:26:47 -0700 Subject: mail notification for t-bird? (for dapper) In-Reply-To: <200711171617.28113.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> <200711172212.30005.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711171617.28113.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <4740BC27.1020709@gmail.com> D. Michael McIntyre said the following at 11/17/2007 02:17 PM : > On Saturday 17 November 2007, Donn wrote: >> Them's the breaks in Linuxland. I just had to move up to Gutsy to get some >> GTK libs that The Spaghetti monster Himself could not install with all His >> noodly might on Dapper... > > Hah, you made it longer than I did. Remember how we were both going to sick > with Dapper until the next LTS came out? One point to me :-) I'm still surviving (barely) with dapper on my main machine. I have learned a lesson from this experience: upgrade frequently. My other two Kubuntu machines are on gutsy. Every single upgrade experience has been difficult, but the benefit of not being 5,000 versions behind in each piece of critical software outweighs the pain of the upgrades. So next time I'll switch to the semi-annual upgrade cycle along with most people. This is a bit funny in a way, because I actually make a living from Linux, so I figured that the stability and "support" of LTS was something that I would enjoy. In practice, though, I have found that software advances much too quickly for a two-year upgrade cycle. I had thought that enough software would be backported to make this a non-issue (I thought originally that that was part of what "Long Term Support" was going to mean); but it seems like almost nothing -- at least, nothing that I use -- is backported. So when I get a couple of slow days to give me the time to make the move in a slow and controlled manner, I'll be switching to gutsy on my main machine too. Sorry, this thread has moved way off topic. I could bring it back on topic by mentioning that there's a superkaramba widget for displaying on the desktop mail awaiting download. But I really don't recommend superkaramba: it suffers a couple of fundamental design flaws that I'll be extremely glad to see the end of in KDE4 (apart from the fact that it's the least stable program I use). Doc From bbales at cox.net Sun Nov 18 23:02:00 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:02:00 -0600 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <4740B6B1.6010104@gmail.com> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <4740B6B1.6010104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711181702.00349.bbales@cox.net> On Sunday 18 November 2007 16:03, D. R. Evans wrote: > Bruce Bales said the following at 11/18/2007 12:45 PM : > > Hi, Guys, > > > > I downloaded the iso for Kubuntu Gutsy 7.10 to update my Dapper > > 6.06 systems and burned the CD using k3b. Spent an hour trying > > to get that working0 and then downloaded another iso from another > > mirror and got the same result. > > What do you mean when you say that you spent an hour "trying to get > that working"? What didn't work: > Didn't it boot? > Did it fail during the installation? > Did it install fine but fail to boot afterwards? > > Please give us more information. I for one can't even guess what > part of the process failed, so I have no idea how to suggest you go > about fixing it. > > Doc Thanks for answering, Doc. I put the CD in the drive and turned on power. It read for a while and flashed some words across the top of the screen, then deleted them before I could read them. After a short time the Kubuntu icon appeared and the 'Loading' bar started moving back and forth. Soon the icon and loading bar disappeared and two lines of text came up with a mixture of hex and text with the word "error" in it, but nothing helpful or even understandable. Another line said something about busy-box being installed and ' ... type help for list of commands." None of the commands proved to be useful (that's where most of the hour went). The indecipherable line was repeated several times at 32 second intervals. I decided the disk was bad and downloaded another from a different mirror and burned another CD. Same result. I got on another machine and looked at the CD -- then read the README file, where I discovered I might need to build a boot flex (we might discuss the wisdom of going back to an obsolete technology later). I dug down in the bottom of a cabinet and found a flex disk and tried the sudo dd if=SMB.bin of=/mnt/floppy/SBM.bin The machine didn't like the floppy -- "non-system disk" Made another with the same result. Tried the floppy in another machine with same result. So I'm stuck. Maybe if I can get the flex to work I'll be able to make some progress. bruce From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 23:17:11 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:17:11 -0500 Subject: Adept locking during update In-Reply-To: <47409FEB.3050809@sbcglobal.net> References: <47409FEB.3050809@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711181517r4cf674dfn99f5095cdbf06515@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 18, 2007 3:26 PM, Jim wrote: > Kubuntu-7.10 > Adept is locking up computer during update and another time it won't get > updates. Did you try use the command: sudo dpkg --configure -a Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Nov 19 00:40:56 2007 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott (angrykeyboarder)) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:40:56 -0700 Subject: Disk Utility For Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20071118121616.4eade4c3@graham-desktop> References: <20071118121616.4eade4c3@graham-desktop> Message-ID: Graham spake thusly: > Is there an application in Kubuntu that has the same functionality as > the Disk Utility in OSX, with the same sort of gui? > > The gui need not be the same, but I find Disk Utility's interface clean > and uncluttered. Is there anything similar available in Kubuntu? The closest thing would be QTParted. $sudo apt-get install qtparted Although personally I prefer GParted (however, it is a GNOME app, but then I run both KDE and GNOME). -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com I've never used an OS I didn't (dis)like. ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved From eprosoft at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 01:56:06 2007 From: eprosoft at gmail.com (Eduardo P. =?iso-8859-1?q?Rom=E1n?= O.) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:56:06 -0300 Subject: Capturing Video from CAM Message-ID: <200711182256.06690.eprosoft@gmail.com> Hi List I havea recorder cam Sony DCR-HC36, a mini DV cam, and I want recording this to my PC, anyone know what tool, can I use to do this ???? Thanks -- Saludos Cordiales Eduardo P. Román O. Ingeniero en informática Epro Software CONFIDENCIALIDAD: La información contenida en este mensaje y/o en los archivos adjuntos es de carácter confidencial o privilegiada y está destinada al uso exclusivo del emisor y/o de la persona o entidad a quien va dirigida. Si usted no es el destinatario, cualquier almacenamiento, divulgación, distribución o copia de esta información está estrictamente prohibido y sancionado por la ley. Si recibió este mensaje por error, por favor infórmenos inmediatamente respondiendo este mismo mensaje y borre todos los archivos adjuntos. Gracias. CONFIDENTIAL NOTE: The information transmitted in this message and/or attachments is confidential and/or privileged and is intented only for use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any retention,dissemination, distribution or copy of this information is strictly prohibited and sanctioned by law. If you received this messagge in error, please reply us this same message and delete this message and all attachments. Thank you. From stew.schneider at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 02:13:14 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:13:14 -0500 Subject: Audacity 1.3.3 Message-ID: <4740F13A.2090207@gmail.com> I notice that when I upgraded to Gutsy, Audacity was upgraded to 1.3.3, which is beta. It's also pretty unstable and seems to have a problem exporting .mp3's, if by "problem" we agree I mean "won't". Anybody have any luck with it? I see a thread at http://www.audacityteam.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=587 but no solution. stew From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 02:18:25 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:18:25 -0500 Subject: Capturing Video from CAM In-Reply-To: <200711182256.06690.eprosoft@gmail.com> References: <200711182256.06690.eprosoft@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711181818q3832751ey7c25cf3a534a1384@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 18, 2007 8:56 PM, Eduardo P. Román O. wrote: > Hi List > I havea recorder cam Sony DCR-HC36, a mini DV cam, and I want recording this > to my PC, anyone know what tool, can I use to do this ???? > > Thanks > > -- > Saludos Cordiales > > Eduardo P. Román O. > Ingeniero en informática > > Epro Software > > CONFIDENCIALIDAD: La información contenida en este mensaje y/o en los archivos > adjuntos es de carácter confidencial o privilegiada y está destinada al uso > exclusivo del emisor y/o de la persona o entidad a quien va dirigida. Si > usted no es el destinatario, cualquier almacenamiento, divulgación, > distribución o copia de esta información está estrictamente prohibido y > sancionado por la ley. Si recibió este mensaje por error, por favor > infórmenos inmediatamente respondiendo este mismo mensaje y borre todos los > archivos adjuntos. Gracias. > CONFIDENTIAL NOTE: The information transmitted in this message and/or > attachments is confidential and/or privileged and is intented only for use of > the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended > recipient, any retention,dissemination, distribution or copy of this > information is strictly prohibited and sanctioned by law. If you received > this messagge in error, please reply us this same message and delete this > message and all attachments. Thank you. I think there is a program called Kino that can pull in video from a cam. It is a program that also lets you edit and export the video. However, I have never used it so I can't tell you the quality of the software, but, from what I can tell, it should give you all the functionality you need. I'm sure there are other programs out there; Cinelerra is another option, but it is really useful if you are doing professional video editing (e.g. you might get lost in the program). Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 02:25:33 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:25:33 -0500 Subject: Audacity 1.3.3 In-Reply-To: <4740F13A.2090207@gmail.com> References: <4740F13A.2090207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711181825m346e2738q47a3e2d44c0af76a@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 18, 2007 9:13 PM, Stew Schneider wrote: > I notice that when I upgraded to Gutsy, Audacity was upgraded to 1.3.3, > which is beta. It's also pretty unstable and seems to have a problem > exporting .mp3's, if by "problem" we agree I mean "won't". > > Anybody have any luck with it? I see a thread at > http://www.audacityteam.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=587 but no solution. > > stew I think you need to have the lame mp3 encoder installed in order for audacity to export to mp3 (even on Windows and OSX). I just installed lame via: sudo apt-get install lame and then export to mp3 worked for me. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From stew.schneider at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 02:53:06 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:53:06 -0500 Subject: Firefox crashing on Gutsy Message-ID: <4740FA92.5050304@gmail.com> Not that I'd know anything about fark.com from personal experience, but I'm led to believe that something in their home page will crash firefox under Gutsy. Running earlier Windows FF under wine, there's no problem, but 2.0.0.8 crashes every time here. Could somebody else confirm? stew From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Mon Nov 19 03:14:07 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:14:07 +0000 Subject: Firefox crashing on Gutsy In-Reply-To: <4740FA92.5050304@gmail.com> References: <4740FA92.5050304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4740FF7F.6070300@tiscali.co.uk> Stew Schneider wrote: > Not that I'd know anything about fark.com from personal experience, but > I'm led to believe that something in their home page will crash firefox > under Gutsy. Running earlier Windows FF under wine, there's no problem, > but 2.0.0.8 crashes every time here. Could somebody else confirm? > > stew I'm running FF 2.0.0.8 in Kubuntu Gutsy. fark.com comes up fine... though there are four scripts blocked by Adblock Plus... They're ads from doubleclick... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 03:17:04 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:17:04 -0500 Subject: Firefox crashing on Gutsy In-Reply-To: <4740FA92.5050304@gmail.com> References: <4740FA92.5050304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711181917u17cd9613k6f0d1304a8f35b84@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 18, 2007 9:53 PM, Stew Schneider wrote: > Not that I'd know anything about fark.com from personal experience, but > I'm led to believe that something in their home page will crash firefox > under Gutsy. Running earlier Windows FF under wine, there's no problem, > but 2.0.0.8 crashes every time here. Could somebody else confirm? > > stew I can't confirm it. I'm also running Gutsy and 2.0.0.8, but it didn't crash. I can see why it might with the ungodly amount of javascript they use. Sheesh. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From stew.schneider at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 03:21:47 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:21:47 -0500 Subject: Firefox crashing on Gutsy In-Reply-To: <4740FF7F.6070300@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4740FA92.5050304@gmail.com> <4740FF7F.6070300@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <4741014B.7050500@gmail.com> Wulfy wrote: > Stew Schneider wrote: > >> Not that I'd know anything about fark.com from personal experience, but >> I'm led to believe that something in their home page will crash firefox >> under Gutsy. Running earlier Windows FF under wine, there's no problem, >> but 2.0.0.8 crashes every time here. Could somebody else confirm? >> >> stew >> > I'm running FF 2.0.0.8 in Kubuntu Gutsy. fark.com comes up fine... > though there are four scripts blocked by Adblock Plus... They're ads > from doubleclick... > Bingo. I turned off javascript and the problem went away. Thanks for the help. stew From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 04:20:04 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:20:04 +0200 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711181702.00349.bbales@cox.net> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <4740B6B1.6010104@gmail.com> <200711181702.00349.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: <200711190620.04205.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Bruce, A few things come to my mind: 1. Bad CD -- Did you check the md5sum and verify the burned iso after you cut it? 2. Is your CD drive poked? (that's busted in South Africanese :) ) 3. Does another CD for some other o/s boot? 4. Then I'd visit the BIOS and see what I can see. So, before you go down the floopy disk road -- and I can't recall the last time I used one! -- give those a whirl. /d From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 07:46:02 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:46:02 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? Message-ID: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> Hello list, i've the following partition table: [swap] [free] [ntfs] and want to move/resize-enlarge ntfs partition . Please advise any tool for (K)ubuntu to make this jobe done. Thank you, -Alex From joantur at cancullet.org Mon Nov 19 08:38:09 2007 From: joantur at cancullet.org (Joan Tur) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:38:09 +0100 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711190938.11942.joantur@cancullet.org> Es Dilluns, 19 de Novembre de 2007, en Alexander Smirnov va escriure: | Hello list, | | i've the following partition table: | [swap] [free] [ntfs] | | and want to move/resize-enlarge ntfs partition . | | Please advise any tool for (K)ubuntu to make this jobe done. AFAIK gparted can do the job. Make a backup, as it may fail ;) -- Joan Tur (aka Quini), Eivissa-Spain Jabber: quini2k at jabber.org www.ClubIbosim.org Linux #190.783 - Ubuntu #15.255 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 19 08:48:15 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:48:15 +0000 Subject: Disk Utility For Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <20071118121616.4eade4c3@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <20071119084815.7fc4f567@graham-desktop> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:40:56 -0700 "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" wrote: > The closest thing would be QTParted. Thanks, Scott. I'll give that a try. GParted certainly doesn't have an easily accessible gui as Disk Utility. -- Graham Todd From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 10:50:25 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:50:25 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200711190938.11942.joantur@cancullet.org> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <200711190938.11942.joantur@cancullet.org> Message-ID: <47416A71.100@gmail.com> Joan Tur wrote: > Es Dilluns, 19 de Novembre de 2007, en Alexander Smirnov va escriure: > | Hello list, > | > | i've the following partition table: > | [swap] [free] [ntfs] > | > | and want to move/resize-enlarge ntfs partition . > | > | Please advise any tool for (K)ubuntu to make this jobe done. > > AFAIK gparted can do the job. Make a backup, as it may fail ;) > > thank you for reply :-) I've installed gparted - nice tool. It is able to resize ntfs partition, but not to move it :( From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Mon Nov 19 11:16:57 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:16:57 +0000 Subject: Satellite TV to PC Message-ID: <20071119111657.33e77eb7@graham-desktop> Has anyone seen this site: http://www.satellitetvtopc.com/ Seems like its too good to be true, and a little voice inside me says when it appears that way, it probably is. Does anyone know about this company? But the idea of satellite TV being streamed over a broadband connection intrigues me. Could this work in Kubuntu? Are there any providers who offer this sort of service? -- Graham Todd From d.mcglone at att.net Mon Nov 19 12:13:24 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:13:24 -0500 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <47416A71.100@gmail.com> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <200711190938.11942.joantur@cancullet.org> <47416A71.100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711190713.24706.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 19 November 2007 5:50:25 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > Joan Tur wrote: > > Es Dilluns, 19 de Novembre de 2007, en Alexander Smirnov va escriure: > > | Hello list, > > | > > | i've the following partition table: > > | [swap] [free] [ntfs] > > | > > | and want to move/resize-enlarge ntfs partition . > > | > > | Please advise any tool for (K)ubuntu to make this jobe done. > > > > AFAIK gparted can do the job. Make a backup, as it may fail ;) > > thank you for reply :-) > I've installed gparted - nice tool. It is able to resize ntfs partition, > but not to move it :( Are you wanting to move it to the free space you have noted above? -- David M. Q: What do little WASPs want to be when they grow up? A: The very best person they can possibly be. From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 13:37:03 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:37:03 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200711190713.24706.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <200711190938.11942.joantur@cancullet.org> <47416A71.100@gmail.com> <200711190713.24706.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4741917F.2050406@gmail.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Monday 19 November 2007 5:50:25 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > >> Joan Tur wrote: >> >>> Es Dilluns, 19 de Novembre de 2007, en Alexander Smirnov va escriure: >>> | Hello list, >>> | >>> | i've the following partition table: >>> | [swap] [free] [ntfs] >>> | >>> | and want to move/resize-enlarge ntfs partition . >>> | >>> | Please advise any tool for (K)ubuntu to make this jobe done. >>> >>> AFAIK gparted can do the job. Make a backup, as it may fail ;) >>> >> thank you for reply :-) >> I've installed gparted - nice tool. It is able to resize ntfs partition, >> but not to move it :( >> > > Are you wanting to move it to the free space you have noted above? > > Yes From exim-ml at rwz.de Mon Nov 19 14:15:19 2007 From: exim-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:15:19 +0100 Subject: ISDN connect with kubuntu Message-ID: <20071119151519.2e2b2392@strohsje.rhg.de> Hi list, I would like to connect trough an avm-fritz-pcmcia-card to the internet. All packages are installed and the ippp0 device/capidriver is loaded. But how do I connect to the provider ? And where do I have to add the infos about the provider ? The networkmanager does not show me the pcmcia-card, just only my eth0 LAN and eth1 WLAN. Hope someone can help me ... -- Regards, Jens Strohschnitter ------------------------------------- *!!!LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX!!!* * http://www.jens-strohschnitter.de * ------------------------------------- Set the controls for the heart of the sun ------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Raiffeisen Waren-Zentrale Rhein-Main eG 50668 Koeln, Altenberger Str. 1a Tel: 0221/1638-0 Fax: 0221/1638-254 Sitz: Koeln Amtsgericht Koeln, GnR 728 Geschaeftsfuehrender Vorstand: Hans-Josef Hilgers (Sprecher) Markus Stuettgen Dr. Karl-Heinrich Suemmermann Vorstand: Friedhelm Decker (Vorsitzender) Ingo Steitz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Peter Bleser (MdB) St.Nr.: 215/5938/0152 Bankverbindung: WGZ Bank AG, Duesseldorf (BLZ 300 600 10) Konto-Nr.: 300 011 From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 19 14:16:27 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:16:27 -0400 Subject: Satellite TV to PC References: <20071119111657.33e77eb7@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <1239910.teLBlQZozb@cedar.serverforest.com> Graham wrote: > Has anyone seen this site: > > http://www.satellitetvtopc.com/ > > Seems like its too good to be true, and a little voice inside me says > when it appears that way, it probably is. Does anyone know about this > company? Only what I had seen on the website. "Free TV" - after you pay us for the program... The fact is, there are huge quantities of "free" (as in either beer or just freely available) Satellite TV (google "free to air" or "FTA satellite") and they're providing some way to get at that from your computer. I'm _not_ convinced they have a legal right to distribute the TV signals they're talking about. otoh, they could be providing you with a media player preset with links to streaming video from actual networks - I have no idea how many (if any) networks _do_ have a streaming video feed. If that's the case, then they have a right to do what they're doing, but it wouldn't cost you anything but your time to do it yourself. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 19 15:00:04 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:00:04 -0400 Subject: Mailer Preferences References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1512784.NrQzofy4Pz@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711181435.43321.k7qo@commspeed.net> Message-ID: <7270350.FazUxyPbFl@cedar.serverforest.com> Chuck Adams wrote: > > OK, I went with Kmail. Easy to setup and seems to > work pretty well, so far. > > Thanks for the suggestion. It was just that when > I moved to Kubuntu from another distro I started > with evolution and stuck with it. Wasn't broken > until now, even under KDE. And there's no reason you _shouldn't_ use Evolution - I just suspected that not a huge number of users here would have recent experience with it. -- derek From k7qo at commspeed.net Mon Nov 19 15:24:02 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (Chuck Adams) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:24:02 -0700 Subject: Mailer Preferences In-Reply-To: <7270350.FazUxyPbFl@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> <200711181435.43321.k7qo@commspeed.net> <7270350.FazUxyPbFl@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711190824.02835.k7qo@commspeed.net> On Monday 19 November 2007 08:00:04 Derek Broughton wrote: > Chuck Adams wrote: > > OK, I went with Kmail. Easy to setup and seems to > > work pretty well, so far. > > > > Thanks for the suggestion. It was just that when > > I moved to Kubuntu from another distro I started > > with evolution and stuck with it. Wasn't broken > > until now, even under KDE. > > And there's no reason you _shouldn't_ use Evolution - I just suspected that > not a huge number of users here would have recent experience with it. > -- > derek Derek, No problem. I had to switch to Kmail, since Evolution broke under 7.10. You know I'm easy, since I started out in the old days with just mail and pine..... :-) Thanks, -- Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net/ Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water, please. From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 16:15:24 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:15:24 -0700 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711190620.04205.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <4740B6B1.6010104@gmail.com> <200711181702.00349.bbales@cox.net> <200711190620.04205.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4741B69C.3040403@gmail.com> Donn said the following at 11/18/2007 09:20 PM : > A few things come to my mind: > 1. Bad CD -- Did you check the md5sum and verify the burned iso after you cut > it? > 2. Is your CD drive poked? (that's busted in South Africanese :) ) > 3. Does another CD for some other o/s boot? > 4. Then I'd visit the BIOS and see what I can see. > > So, before you go down the floopy disk road -- and I can't recall the last > time I used one! -- give those a whirl. Also, were you using the regular install CD or the alternative one? If you were using the regular one, I would try the alternative one, because that one seems to be much better at detecting and handling various pieces of hardware. Doc PS I have seen something like what you're seeing (although not when using the downloaded CD) if the new system of addressing devices by ID instead of name gets somehow mysteriously broken. Was one of the error messages saying that it couldn't find your hard drive? From turgon at mike-leone.com Mon Nov 19 17:23:52 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:23:52 -0500 Subject: change from 7.04 to 7.10 and evolution In-Reply-To: <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> References: <1195406932.7347.11.camel@kubuntu7.04> <1851964.VK0AIltziQ@cedar.serverforest.com> <1195415654.7510.0.camel@kubuntu7.04> Message-ID: <20071119172351.GB30904@localhost> adams (k7qo at commspeed.net) had this to say on 11/18/07 at 14:57: > > On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 14:22 -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > > > Since Evolution is a Gnome app, even though you're using Kubuntu, I'd > > suggest you're more likely to find help on the ubuntu-users list. I doubt > > many of us here are using evolution. > > -- > > derek > > > > > > OK, I'll bite. What is the preferred mail utility for kubuntu? It's the one that works best for *you*. In my case, it's Thunderbird. For others, KMail. etc etc etc. Just because it's kubuntu, doesn't mean you *have* to use all the parts. From ejviolet at yahoo.com Mon Nov 19 17:30:55 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:30:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <4741917F.2050406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <793217.86424.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Alexander Smirnov wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Monday 19 November 2007 5:50:25 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > > >> Joan Tur wrote: > >> > >>> Es Dilluns, 19 de Novembre de 2007, en Alexander Smirnov va > escriure: > >>> | Hello list, > >>> | > >>> | i've the following partition table: > >>> | [swap] [free] [ntfs] > >>> | > >>> | and want to move/resize-enlarge ntfs partition . > >>> | > >>> | Please advise any tool for (K)ubuntu to make this jobe done. > >>> > >>> AFAIK gparted can do the job. Make a backup, as it may fail > ;) > >>> > >> thank you for reply :-) > >> I've installed gparted - nice tool. It is able to resize ntfs > partition, > >> but not to move it :( > >> > > > > Are you wanting to move it to the free space you have noted > above? > > > > > Yes It's been a while but, if I remember correctly, first make sure the space you are trying to move your partition to isn't set up as a partition already. It should be a blank space. I remember it took some manipulating to make things work. It was rather trial and error the first few times. I used the gparted live CD. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ From bbales at cox.net Mon Nov 19 20:48:06 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:48:06 -0600 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <4741B69C.3040403@gmail.com> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <200711190620.04205.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4741B69C.3040403@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711191448.06712.bbales@cox.net> On Monday 19 November 2007 10:15, D. R. Evans wrote: > Donn said the following at 11/18/2007 09:20 PM : > > A few things come to my mind: > > 1. Bad CD -- Did you check the md5sum and verify the burned iso > > after you cut it? > > 2. Is your CD drive poked? (that's busted in South Africanese :) > > ) 3. Does another CD for some other o/s boot? > > 4. Then I'd visit the BIOS and see what I can see. > > > > So, before you go down the floopy disk road -- and I can't recall > > the last time I used one! -- give those a whirl. > > Also, were you using the regular install CD or the alternative one? > If you were using the regular one, I would try the alternative one, > because that one seems to be much better at detecting and handling > various pieces of hardware. > > Doc > > PS I have seen something like what you're seeing (although not when > using the downloaded CD) if the new system of addressing devices by > ID instead of name gets somehow mysteriously broken. Was one of the > error messages saying that it couldn't find your hard drive? Thanks, Doc. I tried the CD in a newer machine and it booted and played just right. The Dapper CD works just fine in the problem machine. Can't see anything in the bios. Floppy is first load device, CD is second. And the CD does load -- at least partially. The complete series of results is First, the Kubuntu logo and a list of "Install, Run, Check CD, etc." I pick one and get a message that shows for one second that contains " ... acpi fails ...." next I see: busybox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. (initramfs) [ 97.620409] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen [ 97.620490] ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:00:00:00:/00:00:00:00:00:/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x12 data 4096 in [ 130.140619] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen [ 130.140619] ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:00:00:00:/00:00:00:00:00:/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x12 data 4096 in [ 195.181153] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen [ 195.181153] ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:00:00:00:/00:00:00:00:00:/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x12 data 4096 in (initramfs) "help" brings a list like . : alias break cd chdir command continue etc. NOTE: Opening the CD under Dapper, one file on the CD is named README.sbm and contains the following: About the Smart Boot Manager image The file `sbm.bin' that is available in this directory may be useful to you if you are not able to directly boot the first CD because your BIOS may be too old and may not support ISOLINUX. Then, instead of booting on the CD directly, you create a Smart Boot Manager floppy image by using the sbm.bin disk image. You can create this floppy with rawrite (under DOS) or with dd (under Linux). Now you can boot on this floppy disk and it will detect your CDROM and let you boot on it bypassing any BIOS limitation. What is SBM ? Smart Boot Manager or briefly SmartBtmgr (SBM), is an OS independent Boot Manager - a program that is loaded by the bios before any operating system and allows you to choose which operating system to boot. SBM is included in Debian in two ways, the package bmconf allows us to install and configure an old version of SBM and sbm wich is the latest version of SBM with an installer. What's the use of SBM on the CD then ? What's the use of SBM on the CD then ? SBM includes an IDE driver that allows us to boot the cds even on machines with a BIOS that wouldn't support booting from CD, provided our CDROM is an IDE one, that is, so you can make a SBM floppy and boot from it and then tell it to boot from your CDROM. Also, there are some cases where the BIOS would allow booting from the CD but isolinux fails to boot from there, in this case you can either boot using a CD other than the first, as the others don't use isolinux, or you can make a SBM floppy and boot from this floppy and then tell SBM to boot your CDROM. How do you make a SBM floppy ? If you have SBM installed on a box you can run sbminst. Otherwise you can put the sbm.bin floppy image that we provide with our cds onto a floppy just like you would do with a rescue image. (END) That last paragraph made me think I could install sbm on the machine and sbminst would make a floppy boot disk. It did write something on the floppy, but the results were just the same (except it takes longer). COMMENT: I have been using Linux for eight years; exclusively for six or seven years. I have installed various versions and distributions perhaps 30 times. I greatly appreciate what the developers have provided me. There have been great improvements in these years. Kubuntu is by far the best. Would I give this CD to a typical Windows user and let him install it? Hardly. bruce From cms0009 at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 21:19:39 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:19:39 -0500 Subject: tcp boardband tuning Message-ID: <200711191619.39428.cms0009@gmail.com> is there a way to adjust the tcp stack for faster browsing the net, heard there are some settings, for that... anyone have a link to a "How to" page for gusty ? ( Have a 15 Meg connection ) I know in Windows (oops) there was a boardband tuning .exe app, that made a Major differences in speed downloads... -Rich From karlok at fastmail.fm Mon Nov 19 21:53:29 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:53:29 -0800 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711191448.06712.bbales@cox.net> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <200711190620.04205.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4741B69C.3040403@gmail.com> <200711191448.06712.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: <474205D9.8030906@fastmail.fm> Bruce Bales wrote: > The complete series of results is > > First, the Kubuntu logo and a list of "Install, Run, Check CD, etc." > I pick one and get a message that shows for one second that > contains " ... acpi fails ...." Try booting the cd with the kernel option 'noacpi'. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions hth, Karl From k7qo at commspeed.net Mon Nov 19 23:08:09 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (Chuck Adams) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:08:09 -0700 Subject: NFS Message-ID: <200711191608.09532.k7qo@commspeed.net> Don't know if this is an issue or an operator error. Upgraded all my systems to 7.10 kunbuntu. Have one system that exports my home directory across the LAN via NFS. When I was running all 7.04 systems, everything was just fine, peachy-keen, hunky-dorry... Server shows file system to be exported just fine. Client system, when I do a manual mount via sudo mount .... or via a mount using /etc/fstab NFS times out. Ping shows that I can reach the server, all the NFS daemons are running, etc. Hints greatly appreciated. FYI Chuck -- Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net/ Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water, please. From paul at lemmons.name Mon Nov 19 23:18:14 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:18:14 -0700 Subject: NFS In-Reply-To: <200711191608.09532.k7qo@commspeed.net> References: <200711191608.09532.k7qo@commspeed.net> Message-ID: <474219B6.3030300@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: NFS From: Chuck Adams To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: 11/19/2007 04:08 PM > Don't know if this is an issue or an operator error. > > Upgraded all my systems to 7.10 kunbuntu. > > Have one system that exports my home directory > across the LAN via NFS. > > When I was running all 7.04 systems, everything was > just fine, peachy-keen, hunky-dorry... Server shows > file system to be exported just fine. > > Client system, when I do a manual mount via > > sudo mount .... > > or via a mount using /etc/fstab > > NFS times out. > > Ping shows that I can reach the server, all the > NFS daemons are running, etc. > > Hints greatly appreciated. > > FYI > > Chuck > from the host wanting to mount the NFS share, issue the command: showmount -e host-that-expots It will show you what is exported and how. See if it returns what you think it should. -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 23:24:43 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:24:43 -0700 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <200711191448.06712.bbales@cox.net> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <200711190620.04205.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4741B69C.3040403@gmail.com> <200711191448.06712.bbales@cox.net> Message-ID: <47421B3B.1020302@gmail.com> Bruce Bales said the following at 11/19/2007 01:48 PM : > > I tried the CD in a newer machine and it booted and played just right. > > The Dapper CD works just fine in the problem machine. > Neither of these causes me to alter my suggestion :-) The "alternative" CD will work on machines that the ordinary CD won't. And there have been enough changes between dapper and gutsy that I don't think one can read anything into the fact that the dapper CD worked. > Can't see anything in the bios. Floppy is first load device, CD is > second. And the CD does load -- at least partially. > > The complete series of results is > > First, the Kubuntu logo and a list of "Install, Run, Check CD, etc." > I pick one and get a message that shows for one second that > contains " ... acpi fails ...." I can't say I've ever seen anything quite like that. So you're saying that you get this even if you choose "Run" or "Check CD"? That seems like it can only mean that the OS on the CD can't access the CD drive properly. Which makes me even more suspicious that you should try the alternative CD and probably try messing with the boot options. > next I see: > busybox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Built-in shell (ash) > Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. > Yes. Been there :-) The busybox stuff is useful if you get boot failures once the system is installed; but in your case, since it's happening off the OS CD, I don't think it's a useful place to leave you :-( > > The file `sbm.bin' that is available in this directory may be useful > to you if you are not able to directly boot the first CD because > your BIOS may be too old and may not support ISOLINUX. Unlikely, since dapper works. In fact, so unlikely that personally I wouldn't even think about spending the time on this (although of course you might think differently). I am close-to-certain that you'd just end up in the same place you are now. > > COMMENT: > I have been using Linux for eight years; exclusively for six or seven > years. I have installed various versions and distributions perhaps > 30 times. I greatly appreciate what the developers have provided me. > There have been great improvements in these years. Kubuntu is by far > the best. Would I give this CD to a typical Windows user and let him > install it? Hardly. My comment: Yep. I agree that Kubuntu is the best to use. But *in my experience* installation and upgrading is still too likely to fail. I too would not hand a Kubuntu CD to a novice. A Mandriva 2008 CD, maybe. The end result isn't as good as Kubuntu (and -- again in my experience -- the support plain sucks in comparison to Kubuntu), but they could probably install it OK. Doc From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Nov 19 23:28:33 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:28:33 -0700 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <474205D9.8030906@fastmail.fm> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <200711190620.04205.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4741B69C.3040403@gmail.com> <200711191448.06712.bbales@cox.net> <474205D9.8030906@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <47421C21.80502@gmail.com> Karl said the following at 11/19/2007 02:53 PM : > Bruce Bales wrote: > >> The complete series of results is >> >> First, the Kubuntu logo and a list of "Install, Run, Check CD, etc." >> I pick one and get a message that shows for one second that >> contains " ... acpi fails ...." > > Try booting the cd with the kernel option 'noacpi'. > See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions I didn't realise that you could get to the boot options from the Live CD. That was part of my rationale for suggesting the alternative CD, because I thought I had read somewhere (maybe for an older version of Ubuntu) that if one wanted to change the boot options, one had to use the alternative CD. Or maybe I'm just hallucinating. Anyway, given that you can do this, I agree (loudly) that this is the thing to try. Doc From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 20 00:10:36 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:10:36 -0500 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <4741917F.2050406@gmail.com> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <200711190713.24706.d.mcglone@att.net> <4741917F.2050406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711191910.36906.d.mcglone@att.net> On Monday 19 November 2007 8:37:03 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > On Monday 19 November 2007 5:50:25 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > >> Joan Tur wrote: > >>> Es Dilluns, 19 de Novembre de 2007, en Alexander Smirnov va escriure: > >>> | Hello list, > >>> | > >>> | i've the following partition table: > >>> | [swap] [free] [ntfs] > >>> | > >>> | and want to move/resize-enlarge ntfs partition . > >>> | > >>> | Please advise any tool for (K)ubuntu to make this jobe done. > >>> > >>> AFAIK gparted can do the job. Make a backup, as it may fail ;) > >> > >> thank you for reply :-) > >> I've installed gparted - nice tool. It is able to resize ntfs partition, > >> but not to move it :( > > > > Are you wanting to move it to the free space you have noted above? > > Yes This isn't guaranteed, but here's how I'd go about it. I would take the [free] partition and combine it with the [ntsf] partition by basically resizing the ntsf partition to take up the free space, then I would finally resize the ntsf partion leaving the free space at the end. 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] -- David M. Writing is easy; all you do is sit staring at the blank sheet of paper until drops of blood form on your forehead. -- Gene Fowler From k7qo at commspeed.net Tue Nov 20 00:18:51 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (Chuck Adams) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:18:51 -0700 Subject: NFS In-Reply-To: <474219B6.3030300@lemmons.name> References: <200711191608.09532.k7qo@commspeed.net> <474219B6.3030300@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <200711191718.51130.k7qo@commspeed.net> showmount -e host_that_exports hangs and doesn't return anything. On Monday 19 November 2007 16:18:14 Paul Lemmons wrote: ...snip... > > from the host wanting to mount the NFS share, issue the command: > > showmount -e host-that-expots > > It will show you what is exported and how. See if it returns what you > think it should. > > -- > Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look > around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe > of the height and breadth of it. -- Chuck Adams, K7QO k7qo at commspeed.net http://www.k7qo.net/ Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water, please. From gene.heskett at verizon.net Tue Nov 20 00:41:47 2007 From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:41:47 -0500 Subject: NFS In-Reply-To: <200711191718.51130.k7qo@commspeed.net> References: <200711191608.09532.k7qo@commspeed.net> <474219B6.3030300@lemmons.name> <200711191718.51130.k7qo@commspeed.net> Message-ID: <200711191941.47151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> On Monday 19 November 2007, Chuck Adams wrote: >showmount -e host_that_exports > >hangs and doesn't return anything. > That's because you missed the point in addition to changing the examples dashes to underscores. For example: [root at coyote linux-2.6.24-rc3]# showmount -e coyote Export list for coyote: / coyote.coyote.den which says that the machine called coyote.coyote.den, a purely local name on my own network, is exporting the whole / tree. In this case I only used its alias in the hosts file. Grok it now? > >On Monday 19 November 2007 16:18:14 Paul Lemmons wrote: >...snip... > >> from the host wanting to mount the NFS share, issue the command: >> >> showmount -e host-that-expots >> >> It will show you what is exported and how. See if it returns what you >> think it should. >> >> -- >> Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look >> around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe >> of the height and breadth of it. > >-- >Chuck Adams, K7QO >k7qo at commspeed.net >http://www.k7qo.net/ > >Moving to Arizona? Bring your own water, please. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "Cable is not a luxury, since many areas have poor TV reception." -- The mayor of Tucson, Arizona, 1989 From k7qo at commspeed.net Tue Nov 20 00:51:44 2007 From: k7qo at commspeed.net (Chuck Adams) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:51:44 -0700 Subject: NFS In-Reply-To: <200711191941.47151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> References: <200711191608.09532.k7qo@commspeed.net> <200711191718.51130.k7qo@commspeed.net> <200711191941.47151.gene.heskett@verizon.net> Message-ID: <200711191751.44754.k7qo@commspeed.net> On Monday 19 November 2007 17:41:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 19 November 2007, Chuck Adams wrote: > >showmount -e host_that_exports > > > >hangs and doesn't return anything. > > That's because you missed the point in addition to changing the examples > dashes to underscores. > The actual line was showmount -e 198.162.1.104 where I used the actual IP address of the server.... Chuck From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 05:13:01 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:13:01 -0500 Subject: MetaData / Audio Files Problems (Bug?) Message-ID: <200711200013.01880.cms0009@gmail.com> 7.10 gusty,(kubuntu) there seems to be something odd, or a setting is not turn on. Problem: First--> when dragging a .flac file to the desktop it will display its meta-data ( NO Problem ) However, it will not play (in preview mode) when holding the mouse over the .flac. (BUT) put the .flac inside a folder, on the desktop it plays and shows all metadata. ( Very ODD) Why doesn't it play on the desktop ? Second--> Have a external usb drive, that is mounted and contain .mp3, .flac files, photos, and docs...and .pdf..etc (a backup drive). Now, on that drive, when moving the mouse around and selecting, a .pdf or doc, or photo The Metadata displays in a pop up windows, just like it should... (However)... when select any .mp3 or flac, (audio) the metadata Doesn't display at all, BUT, the music does play in preview mode. I thought I saw a very quick flash of a pop window but.. it would not repeat, for any audio file. Is there a setting or is there a conflit going on somewhere on with the playing of audio files on the desktop, and also, metadata being display for audio files on a external usb drive ? ** Please note: Never had this problem in feisty 7.04 ** ** Please note: have all preview setting on, with 50 meg preview file size ** TIA Richard From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 06:47:40 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:47:40 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200711191910.36906.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <200711190713.24706.d.mcglone@att.net> <4741917F.2050406@gmail.com> <200711191910.36906.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4742830C.3000407@gmail.com> David McGlone wrote: > This isn't guaranteed, but here's how I'd go about it. I would take the [free] > partition and combine it with the [ntsf] partition by basically resizing the > ntsf partition to take up the free space, then I would finally resize the > ntsf partion leaving the free space at the end. > > 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] > 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] > 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] I would be totally satisfied with second step you've mentioned above :-) But resize operation in gparted can resize only to the right, not to the left :( As far as i understand resize-to-left requires _moving_ all the data to the left too. By the way, just after i installed gparted it was unable even resize ntfs partitions. This changed then i installed ntfsprogs package. From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 06:50:44 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:50:44 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <793217.86424.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <793217.86424.qm@web39611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474283C4.6090500@gmail.com> Earl Violet wrote: > It's been a while but, if I remember correctly, first make sure the > space you are trying to move your partition to isn't set up as a > partition already. It should be a blank space. > > I remember it took some manipulating to make things work. It was > rather trial and error the first few times. I used the gparted live > CD. Yes, this is blank space, there's no partition there. Hmm... thank you for hint about gparted on live cd - there should be opportunity to move partitions. From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 20 09:10:20 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:10:20 -0500 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <4742830C.3000407@gmail.com> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <200711191910.36906.d.mcglone@att.net> <4742830C.3000407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711200410.20483.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 1:47:40 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > This isn't guaranteed, but here's how I'd go about it. I would take the > > [free] partition and combine it with the [ntsf] partition by basically > > resizing the ntsf partition to take up the free space, then I would > > finally resize the ntsf partion leaving the free space at the end. > > > > 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] > > 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] > > 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] > > I would be totally satisfied with second step you've mentioned above :-) > But resize operation in gparted can resize only to the right, not to the > left :( > > As far as i understand resize-to-left requires _moving_ all the data to > the left too. > > By the way, just after i installed gparted it was unable even resize > ntfs partitions. This changed then i installed ntfsprogs package. I'm pretty sure you could make the free space ntsf then merge them. -- David M. The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and the lightning bug. -- Mark Twain From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 20 09:17:20 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:17:20 -0500 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200711200410.20483.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <4742830C.3000407@gmail.com> <200711200410.20483.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711200417.20909.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 4:10:20 am David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 20 November 2007 1:47:40 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > David McGlone wrote: > > > This isn't guaranteed, but here's how I'd go about it. I would take the > > > [free] partition and combine it with the [ntsf] partition by basically > > > resizing the ntsf partition to take up the free space, then I would > > > finally resize the ntsf partion leaving the free space at the end. > > > > > > 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] > > > 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] > > > 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] > > > > I would be totally satisfied with second step you've mentioned above :-) > > But resize operation in gparted can resize only to the right, not to the > > left :( > > > > As far as i understand resize-to-left requires _moving_ all the data to > > the left too. > > > > By the way, just after i installed gparted it was unable even resize > > ntfs partitions. This changed then i installed ntfsprogs package. > > I'm pretty sure you could make the free space ntsf then merge them. don't mind my typo's :-) ntfs it is. > > -- > David M. > > The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the > difference between lightning and the lightning bug. > -- Mark Twain -- He is now rising from affluence to poverty. -- Mark Twain From linux_milano at yahoo.it Tue Nov 20 09:43:42 2007 From: linux_milano at yahoo.it (xpol) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:43:42 +0100 Subject: konsole in the system tray Message-ID: Konsole is launched by the following script, to open in the system tray. It works. However, on the next login, restored session places konsole 'on the desktop', rather than in the system tray. Is that a bug? thank you -- Pol ---- enc. Opts=" --tooltip 'zsh' --hidden " kdeOps=" --caption kon --title Zsh --caption term --nomenubar --icon opentermblue --geometry 633x215+330+460" Comm="" ksystraycmd $Opts konsole $kdeOps $Comm ------------ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 10:02:19 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:02:19 +0200 Subject: konsole in the system tray In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711201202.19780.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Is that a bug? I really dunno -- but for konsole l337ness you can't beat "yakuake" :) Give it a try. Otherwise, just apropos of being off-topic, you can open a konsole on any given konqueror view by F4. \d From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 11:50:28 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:50:28 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200711200417.20909.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <4742830C.3000407@gmail.com> <200711200410.20483.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711200417.20909.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4742CA04.6070104@gmail.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 20 November 2007 4:10:20 am David McGlone wrote: > >> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 1:47:40 am Alexander Smirnov wrote: >> >>> David McGlone wrote: >>> >>>> This isn't guaranteed, but here's how I'd go about it. I would take the >>>> [free] partition and combine it with the [ntsf] partition by basically >>>> resizing the ntsf partition to take up the free space, then I would >>>> finally resize the ntsf partion leaving the free space at the end. >>>> >>>> 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] >>>> 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] >>>> 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] >>>> >>> I would be totally satisfied with second step you've mentioned above :-) >>> But resize operation in gparted can resize only to the right, not to the >>> left :( >>> >>> As far as i understand resize-to-left requires _moving_ all the data to >>> the left too. >>> >>> By the way, just after i installed gparted it was unable even resize >>> ntfs partitions. This changed then i installed ntfsprogs package. >>> >> I'm pretty sure you could make the free space ntsf then merge them. >> > > don't mind my typo's :-) ntfs it is. > Thank you for the trick. But how do i merge 2 partitions into one? I didn't found such option in gparted :( From basroufs at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 13:08:51 2007 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:08:51 +0100 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. Message-ID: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> Dear everybody Here is Bas, completely new to Linux and Kubuntu. Recently, Kubuntu 7.10 has been installed on my laptop by a friend who is kindly helping me to find my way into Linux in general and Kubuntu in particular. So far, nearly everything seems to run smoothly, except two major issues: * the e-mail client 'Thunderbird'. * the sound input functions of this laptop in combination with Kubuntu 7.10. For the sake of brevity and clearness, I dedicate this message to one issue only: the upgrade difficulties with Thunderbird. To the second issue, the sound input, I will dedicate a separate message. Seemingly, the Kubuntu 7.10 Linux distribution still has an old version of Thunderbird: 2.0.0.6. This is the version that has been installed on my laptop. The newest version is 2.0.0.9. Several spell-check dictionaries (.xpi files/ add-ons) are not compatible with version 2.0.0.6. This became clear when I tried to install them. That's why this problem became relevant for me. I could have solved this problem if the update function would work smoothly: Thunderbird > HELP > check for updates. However, for some reason this update option is not accessible; the light gray colour of the text 'check for updates' underline that nothing happens if one clicks on it. So far, I did not manage to change the settings in such a way that the update function can work. A related problem might be the difficulties I have to access the on line 'release notes' and help pages from Thunderbird by directly clicking on the appropriate options of the HELP menu. When trying to click there, I landed on the 'launchpad' website: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/148487 There, I am the 2nd person who mentions this problem. The first person has had a similar problem with Ubuntu 7.10 in combination with Thunderbird 2.0.0.6. That's why, I CC this mail also to the Ubuntu list. Thanks for your possible comments. Respectfully Yours, Bas Roufs. II-- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. Skype: BasRoufs Google Talk: BasRoufs Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human ************************** From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 13:22:45 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:22:45 +0200 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711201522.45878.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Here is Bas, completely new to Linux and Kubuntu. Welcome Bas. > * the sound input functions of this laptop in combination with Kubuntu For sound, I have found that when you *right click* on the kmix icon (the little blue speaker on the task bar) and choose "Select Master Channel" you can choose where the sound is coming from, this is step 1 in getting sound to work. Also check sound in kcontrol (control panel). Also try running "alsamixer" from a konsole. > Seemingly, the Kubuntu 7.10 Linux distribution still has an old version > of Thunderbird: 2.0.0.6. This is the version that has been installed on > my laptop. I don't know why the option to upgrade is unavailable, but it *could* be that there is *no* new version in the Ubuntu repos. You see, the software you get in the repos is almost always old software -- stuff that works. If you want to keep up to date with the latest releases then you can choose to download the apps and install them manually. Go visit the Thunderbird website and download the Linux version. I reckon it should work. (But keep your fingers crossed :) ) hth /d From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 13:36:33 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:36:33 -0500 Subject: MetaData / Audio Files Problems (Bug?) In-Reply-To: <200711200013.01880.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200711200013.01880.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711200536x155baee0p940cbbf61b6de317@mail.gmail.com> On 11/20/07, Richard wrote: > 7.10 gusty,(kubuntu) there seems to be something odd, > or a setting is not turn on. > > Problem: > First--> when dragging a .flac file to the desktop it will display its > meta-data ( NO Problem ) However, it will not play (in preview mode) when > holding the mouse over the .flac. (BUT) put the .flac inside a folder, > on the desktop it plays and shows all metadata. ( Very ODD) > > Why doesn't it play on the desktop ? Perhaps it won't play because the _file manager_ allows for "previews" and you are not viewing the file on your desktop through the file manager? Try opening up D3lphin (or whatever file manager you use), then navigate to your desktop folder and see if it will preview for you. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Tue Nov 20 13:18:27 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:18:27 +0100 Subject: konsole in the system tray References: Message-ID: <87d4u5rr6k.fsf@fjellstad.org> xpol writes: > Konsole is launched by the following script, to open in the system tray. > It works. However, on the next login, restored session places konsole 'on > the desktop', rather than in the system tray. > Is that a bug? Are you using compiz? Sometimes compiz window manager will put stuff on the desktop instead of the system tray. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 14:28:21 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:28:21 -0500 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <200711201522.45878.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <200711201522.45878.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711200628u140c30a2j54142c0c490cfcd8@mail.gmail.com> On 11/20/07, Donn wrote: > > Seemingly, the Kubuntu 7.10 Linux distribution still has an old version > > of Thunderbird: 2.0.0.6. This is the version that has been installed on > > my laptop. > I don't know why the option to upgrade is unavailable, but it *could* be that > there is *no* new version in the Ubuntu repos. You see, the software you get > in the repos is almost always old software -- stuff that works. > If you want to keep up to date with the latest releases then you can choose > to download the apps and install them manually. Go visit the Thunderbird > website and download the Linux version. I reckon it should work. (But keep > your fingers crossed :) ) > > hth > /d Right. The option "Check for Updates" is disabled in both Firefox and Thunderbird (and any other app) because most Linux distributions try to keep the software as stable as possible. In this case, the new Thunderbird is probably being reviewed to make sure that it won't break any other software (because of different versions of libraries and such) or cause some unforeseen problems. You can try compiling the version from the mozilla website, but you can't be guaranteed that it won't break any other software on your computer (it probably won't though, but you never know). Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From exim-ml at rwz.de Tue Nov 20 13:51:20 2007 From: exim-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:51:20 +0100 Subject: Empty inittab after installing capidriver Message-ID: <20071120145120.4a33fcd2@strohsje.rhg.de> Hi, after installing the fritz-packages my inittab seems to be replaced with some settings from the avm-fritz-capi driver. Is it possible to send me a default-inittab via pm ? -- Regards, Jens Strohschnitter ------------------------------------- *!!!LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX!!!* * http://www.jens-strohschnitter.de * ------------------------------------- Set the controls for the heart of the sun ------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Raiffeisen Waren-Zentrale Rhein-Main eG 50668 Koeln, Altenberger Str. 1a Tel: 0221/1638-0 Fax: 0221/1638-254 Sitz: Koeln Amtsgericht Koeln, GnR 728 Geschaeftsfuehrender Vorstand: Hans-Josef Hilgers (Sprecher) Markus Stuettgen Dr. Karl-Heinrich Suemmermann Vorstand: Friedhelm Decker (Vorsitzender) Ingo Steitz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Peter Bleser (MdB) St.Nr.: 215/5938/0152 Bankverbindung: WGZ Bank AG, Duesseldorf (BLZ 300 600 10) Konto-Nr.: 300 011 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 14:50:30 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:50:30 +0200 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711200628u140c30a2j54142c0c490cfcd8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <200711201522.45878.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9bed467e0711200628u140c30a2j54142c0c490cfcd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711201650.30203.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > You can try compiling > the version from the mozilla website, AFAIK they have binaries that ( kind of * ) just run. I think they stuff all the things needed into one folder. It's a big download, but should work with no compilation needed. /d * I say 'kind of' because I had trouble running Firefox 2 under Dapper Drake from the self-downloaded binary. YMMV. From cms0009 at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 14:56:10 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:56:10 -0500 Subject: MetaData / Audio Files Problems (Bug?) In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711200536x155baee0p940cbbf61b6de317@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711200013.01880.cms0009@gmail.com> <9bed467e0711200536x155baee0p940cbbf61b6de317@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711200956.10636.cms0009@gmail.com> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 8:36:33 am Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On 11/20/07, Richard wrote: > > 7.10 gusty,(kubuntu) there seems to be something odd, > > or a setting is not turn on. > > > > Problem: > > First--> when dragging a .flac file to the desktop it will display its > > meta-data ( NO Problem ) However, it will not play (in preview mode) when > > holding the mouse over the .flac. (BUT) put the .flac inside a folder, > > on the desktop it plays and shows all metadata. ( Very ODD) > > > > Why doesn't it play on the desktop ? > > Perhaps it won't play because the _file manager_ allows for "previews" > and you are not viewing the file on your desktop through the file > manager? Try opening up D3lphin (or whatever file manager you use), > then navigate to your desktop folder and see if it will preview for > you. > > Andrew Andrew, that worked fine ( THANKS ) How about the issue with external usb drive, where the metadata is not being display for ANY audio file ? ( BUT ) They will play just fine in preview mode. Moving the mouse over them. Rich From capagira at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 15:29:06 2007 From: capagira at gmail.com (N.F.) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:29:06 +0000 Subject: problem with locales In-Reply-To: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4742FD42.3060607@gmail.com> Hi there, since updating the tzdata package this morning (which failed) I cannot fix the locale vars on my Gutsy. as you can see: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "it_IT", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 Errors were encountered while processing: tzdata Anybody experienced the same problem ? Any solution ? thanks Nico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue Nov 20 15:36:53 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:36:53 +0100 Subject: Empty inittab after installing capidriver In-Reply-To: <20071120145120.4a33fcd2@strohsje.rhg.de> References: <20071120145120.4a33fcd2@strohsje.rhg.de> Message-ID: <200711201636.54119.kassube@gmx.net> Jens Strohschnitter wrote: > after installing the fritz-packages my inittab seems to be replaced > with some settings from the avm-fritz-capi driver. > Is it possible to send me a default-inittab via pm ? What version of Kubuntu are you talking about? For Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) there is no inittab file. Nils From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 15:58:58 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:58:58 +0300 Subject: problem with locales In-Reply-To: <4742FD42.3060607@gmail.com> References: <47413F3A.5020000@gmail.com> <4742FD42.3060607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47430442.8070300@gmail.com> N.F. wrote: > Hi there, > > since updating the tzdata package this morning > (which failed) I cannot fix the locale vars on my Gutsy. > as you can see: > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LANGUAGE = "it_IT", > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory > locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or > directory > locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory > Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... > dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 > Errors were encountered while processing: > tzdata > > > > Anybody experienced the same problem ? > Any solution ? > > > thanks > > Nico > > I doubt where it is related to moving ntfs partitions :-) Please create new message with your problem description, do not press "reply" to any already posted message. From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Tue Nov 20 16:03:02 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:03:02 +0000 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47430536.3040300@tiscali.co.uk> Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear everybody > > Seemingly, the Kubuntu 7.10 Linux distribution still has an old version > of Thunderbird: 2.0.0.6. This is the version that has been installed on > my laptop. The newest version is 2.0.0.9. Several spell-check > dictionaries (.xpi files/ add-ons) are not compatible with version > 2.0.0.6. This became clear when I tried to install them. That's why this > problem became relevant for me. According to "About Mozilla Thunderbird" on the help menu, I have 2.0.0.6 (20071022), yet according to apt-cache I have; wulfy at localhost:~$ apt-cache policy thunderbird thunderbird: Installed: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 Candidate: 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 Version table: *** 2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main Packages 500 http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2.0.0.6+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages which is the 2.0.0.8 client, which comes from Gutsy-updates/main... Still, neither the one I have or the one from Gutsy/main is the latest 2.0.0.9. As others have said, there is usually a delay between when Mozilla issues an update and it makes it into any distribution. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From capagira at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 16:05:35 2007 From: capagira at gmail.com (N.F.) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:05:35 +0000 Subject: problems with locales Message-ID: <474305CF.7000009@gmail.com> Hi there, since updating the tzdata package this morning (which failed) I cannot fix the locale vars on my Gutsy. as you can see: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "it_IT", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 Errors were encountered while processing: tzdata Anybody experienced the same problem ? Any solution ? thanks Nico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejviolet at yahoo.com Tue Nov 20 16:36:01 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:36:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <4742CA04.6070104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <740645.12038.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > >>>> 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] > >>>> 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] > >>>> 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] OK, I might be getting confused here but it seems to me ... 1. [swap] [free] [ntfs] move ntfs 2. [swap] [ntfs] [free] where [free] is a blank partition. Then you stretch or shrink [ntfs] as necessary. Shrink it after defragging and everything is in the front of the partition within the limits you want to shrink it to. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From bbales at cox.net Tue Nov 20 16:44:21 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:44:21 -0600 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 In-Reply-To: <47421C21.80502@gmail.com> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <474205D9.8030906@fastmail.fm> <47421C21.80502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711201044.21562.bbales@cox.net> On Monday 19 November 2007 17:28, D. R. Evans wrote: > Karl said the following at 11/19/2007 02:53 PM : > > Bruce Bales wrote: > >> The complete series of results is > >> > >> First, the Kubuntu logo and a list of "Install, Run, Check CD, > >> etc." I pick one and get a message that shows for one second > >> that contains " ... acpi fails ...." > > > > Try booting the cd with the kernel option 'noacpi'. > > See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions > > I didn't realise that you could get to the boot options from the > Live CD. That was part of my rationale for suggesting the > alternative CD, because I thought I had read somewhere (maybe for > an older version of Ubuntu) that if one wanted to change the boot > options, one had to use the alternative CD. Or maybe I'm just > hallucinating. > > Anyway, given that you can do this, I agree (loudly) that this is > the thing to try. > > Doc After many tries, I got a little more from the line that too briefly displays info about acpi. It starts with some hex crap and "bios age (1997) fails cutoff" and ends with "...ACPI=force is required to enable ACPI" I tried adding noacpi to options -- same result. Tried 'acpi=force' -- same result. Tried "acpi-no" -- same result. One choice for the install is OEM install. Tried it -- same result. Another choice is boot from first hard disk. That worked and brought up dapper. bruce From paul at lemmons.name Tue Nov 20 17:07:14 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:07:14 -0700 Subject: NFS In-Reply-To: <200711191718.51130.k7qo@commspeed.net> References: <200711191608.09532.k7qo@commspeed.net> <474219B6.3030300@lemmons.name> <200711191718.51130.k7qo@commspeed.net> Message-ID: <47431442.20701@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:NFS From: Chuck Adams To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Date: 11/19/2007 05:18 PM > showmount -e host_that_exports > > hangs and doesn't return anything. > > > On Monday 19 November 2007 16:18:14 Paul Lemmons wrote: > ...snip... > >> from the host wanting to mount the NFS share, issue the command: >> >> showmount -e host-that-expots >> >> It will show you what is exported and how. See if it returns what you >> think it should. >> Interesting, do you happen to have the firewall functions turned on? It almost sounds like the port is being blocked. You asked for "Hints" do "Guesses in the dark" count :) -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 20 18:42:18 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:42:18 -0500 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <740645.12038.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <740645.12038.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200711201342.19096.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 11:36:01 am Earl Violet wrote: > > >>>> 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] > > >>>> 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] > > >>>> 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] > > OK, I might be getting confused here but it seems to me ... > > 1. [swap] [free] [ntfs] > move ntfs > 2. [swap] [ntfs] [free] > > where [free] is a blank partition. > > Then you stretch or shrink [ntfs] as necessary. Shrink it after > defragging and everything is in the front of the partition within the > limits you want to shrink it to. No. Combine the free partition with the ntfs partition, this will move the data on the partition to the beginning of the drive example: Lets just say the free space is 10Gb and the ntfs partition is 20Gb and 5Gb of the ntsf partition is full of data so: [free] [<-- ntsf data-->|<--rest of ntsf partition-->] [<----- 5Gb ------>|<------------ 15Gb ------------->] Now lets merge the free space and the ntfs partition. Even though the free space in _before_ the ntfs partition, when they are merged the data should move to the beginning of the drive. So now we have: [<-- ntsf data -->|<------- rest of ntfs partition ------->] [<----- 5Gb ------->|<-------------- 25Gb ----------------------->] Now we take the whole partition and shrink it leaving some free space at the end of the drive. Lets say he wanted to have 10Gb of free space so we shrink the whole ntfs drive from 30Gb to 20Gb so now we have. [<--ntsf data-->|<---rest of ntsf drive-->] [ free space] [<---- 5Gb ------>|<------------15Gb----------->] [<-- 10Gb -->] Does that explain it better? -- David M. You will be audited by the Internal Revenue Service. From glgxg at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 20 19:52:02 2007 From: glgxg at sbcglobal.net (NoOp) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:52:02 -0800 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11/20/2007 05:08 AM, Bas Roufs wrote: > > I could have solved this problem if the update function would work > smoothly: Thunderbird > HELP > check for updates. However, for some > reason this update option is not accessible; the light gray colour of > the text 'check for updates' underline that nothing happens if one > clicks on it. So far, I did not manage to change the settings in such a > way that the update function can work. > > A related problem might be the difficulties I have to access the on line > 'release notes' and help pages from Thunderbird by directly clicking on > the appropriate options of the HELP menu. When trying to click there, I > landed on the 'launchpad' website: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/148487 > There, I am the 2nd person who mentions this problem. The first person > has had a similar problem with Ubuntu 7.10 in combination with > Thunderbird 2.0.0.6. That's why, I CC this mail also to the Ubuntu list. > Ubuntu's version is outdated; TB is now at 2.0.0.9 to fix a couple of security issues: However, back to your question about not being able to check for updates: this can be turned on if you install TB into a directory where you have read/write permissions as a user (see below). To do that (in Gnome - you will have to adjust for Kubuntu): 1. Rename your existing ~./mozilla-thunderbird directory to ~./x-thunderbird-x 2. Uninstall the Ubuntu installed mozilla-thunderbird: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-thunderbird 3. Rename ~./x-thunderbird-x back to ~./thunderbird Note: this will have preserved any of your existing emails etc. 4. Download TB and place in your home folder. Untar by double-clicking the .tz file from Nautilus (the file browser) and let it extract the files to their own ~/thunderbird directory. 5. From a terminal, cd to ~/thunderbird and enter the following: ./thunderbird 6. Right click on Applications & select 'Edit Menus'. Go to the Internet folder & click the 'New Item' button. Enter Thunderbird in the Name, browse to /thunderbird and click on 'thunderbird' (*not* thunderbird-bin). You can then add the Thunderbird icon, by clicking on the icon button, browse to /thunderbird/icons, click open, click on mozicon50.xpm & click ok. You will now find your working TB in Applications|Internet|Thunderbird & all of your emails & profiles should be just the same as before. Except, you will now find that Help|Check for Updates is no longer greyed out and is now working. All Systems [snip] * Software Update will not work if Thunderbird is installed to a location on your disk to which you do not have write access, since Software Update needs to replace or create files in this location. Dictionaries can be installed as extensions from: addons.mozilla.org. Which dictionary(s) are you having problems installing? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/browse/type:3 I have no problems installing the English dictionary 2.0.0.6 - I've not tried the others. Hint: if using the Ubuntu installed version of TB, download the .xpi file first, then install in TB using the addon manager - just browse to the .xpi file that you downloaded. From bbales at cox.net Tue Nov 20 20:12:22 2007 From: bbales at cox.net (Bruce Bales) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:12:22 -0600 Subject: Trouble installing 7.10 -- solved In-Reply-To: <47421C21.80502@gmail.com> References: <200711181345.59103.bbales@cox.net> <474205D9.8030906@fastmail.fm> <47421C21.80502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711201412.23038.bbales@cox.net> On Monday 19 November 2007 17:28, D. R. Evans wrote: > Karl said the following at 11/19/2007 02:53 PM : > > Bruce Bales wrote: > >> The complete series of results is > >> > >> First, the Kubuntu logo and a list of "Install, Run, Check CD, > >> etc." I pick one and get a message that shows for one second > >> that contains " ... acpi fails ...." > > > > Try booting the cd with the kernel option 'noacpi'. > > See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions > > I didn't realise that you could get to the boot options from the > Live CD. That was part of my rationale for suggesting the > alternative CD, because I thought I had read somewhere (maybe for > an older version of Ubuntu) that if one wanted to change the boot > options, one had to use the alternative CD. Or maybe I'm just > hallucinating. > > Anyway, given that you can do this, I agree (loudly) that this is > the thing to try. > > Doc The alternate CD worked, but text mode only. I got the installation started. Many thanks to all for the suggestions. This is one of the things that makes Linux great. Seems like one time long ago I installed a system where it was easy to describe how I wanted the partitioning done. Or do I just have to complain about something? bruce From sundar.personal at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 20:28:29 2007 From: sundar.personal at gmail.com (Sundar Nagarajan) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:28:29 -0800 Subject: mail notification for t-bird? (for dapper) In-Reply-To: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> References: <473F48AB.5020804@comcast.net> Message-ID: Have you tried kbiff. I had it in dapper, and I am now on feisty and I use it all the time. It sits in ksystray, and notifies you independent of TB. Here is the package description for dapper: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/mail/kbiff anthony baldwin wrote: > Hi, > > Is there something to run in the ksystray or something to tell me when > I have new mail msgs, that works while t-bird is not running? > I installed the mozbiff extention thingy, but it only shows up when > t-bird is running. > Whe t-bird is running, I know when I have new mail. > What I want is something that will alert me when t-bird is not running, > so I know > to open t-bird and check the mail. > Oh...btw, I know there is one for feisty and it works quite well. > It´s great. It shows an alert, and even shows all of what mail came in a > bubble/text box just by hovering over it. Then you can click on the > little thingy, and t-bird (or your preferred client...this one would work > with kmail, evolution, etc.) opens right up. > That´s precisely what I want. But for dapper. > I don´t recall it´s precise name, but, anyway, I am using dapper/kubuntu. > The feisty one is in the repos and I synaptic-ed it right in. > I´m not finding the same in the dapper repos, but, I can install by > other means, > if someone can't point the way to where I can find such a thingy. > > thanks, > tony > From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Nov 20 20:31:05 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:31:05 +0000 Subject: kde4? Message-ID: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Are there going to be debs for kde4 rc1? Paul From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Tue Nov 20 21:09:11 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:09:11 +0000 Subject: Upgrade Feisty to Gutsy Message-ID: <47434CF7.7030606@tiscali.co.uk> I upgraded from feisty to gutsy recently. I found that a number of packages were in "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" in aptitude. For most of them, I've been able to infer which package replaced them but not for one, libdvdplay0. It depends on libdvdread3, which still shows a reverse depends on it and is in Gutsy. So to my questions; 1) Is it safe to remove libdvdplay0? I play all my dvds through the computer so I don't want to break anything... 2) Why were these packages left hanging? If they were replaced, they should have been automatically removed, surely? I must admit, I waited almost a month before upgrading to watch for problems and, as upgrade-manager seems to be a GNOME application, I don't have it and used aptitude for the upgrade. I had no problems at all apart from the dangling packages. :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From jpatrickdavies at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 21:36:19 2007 From: jpatrickdavies at gmail.com (Jonathan Patrick Davies) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:36:19 +0100 Subject: kde4? In-Reply-To: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200711202236.23278.jpatrick@kubuntu.org> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 21:31:05 pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > Are there going to be debs for kde4 rc1? > Paul Already in Hardy, awaiting backport for gutsy. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From T.Six at gmx.de Tue Nov 20 21:34:26 2007 From: T.Six at gmx.de (Thilo Six) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:34:26 +0100 Subject: problems with locales In-Reply-To: <474305CF.7000009@gmail.com> References: <474305CF.7000009@gmail.com> Message-ID: N.F. wrote the following on 20.11.2007 17:05 > Hi there, > > since updating the tzdata package this morning > (which failed) I cannot fix the locale vars on my Gutsy. > as you can see: > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LANGUAGE = "it_IT", > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory > locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or > directory > locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory > Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... > dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 > Errors were encountered while processing: > tzdata > > > > Anybody experienced the same problem ? no > Any solution ? try: $ sudo locale-gen --purge > thanks > > Nico bye -- Thilo key: 0x4A411E09 From basroufs at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 21:42:57 2007 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:42:57 +0100 Subject: FF Bookmarks Gone? In-Reply-To: <1195568345.6360.1.camel@Nebo.terremark.org> References: <1195568345.6360.1.camel@Nebo.terremark.org> Message-ID: <474354E1.9040507@gmail.com> John Dangler wrote: > Running Gutsy on a Dell 810. > This morning I opened FF to discover there are no bookmarks. I've > collected about 60 since loading Gutsy. Anyone seen this behavior with > the recent updates or otherwise? > > Ever since about one week I dealt with a similar problem. Probably I managed to solve it. In my case, it had to do with problems related to the add-on 'Foxmarks', software meant to synchronise the bookmarks of Firefox running on two or more computers. Step 1. I started Firefox and I found the vanished bookmarks elsewhere under the menu 'bookmarks'. Because of some bug in Foxmark, the 'personal toolbar' had been shifted from the toolbar to another place that I found via the 'bookmarks' menu, under the name 'personal toolbar'. There you will might back all the 'lost' bookmarks, as I did. Step 2. Last Friday, an update of 'Foxmarks' had been issued. However, one day later, it had been withdrawn because of several technical problems. What I did: UNinstall Foxmarks 2.0 via TOOLS>add-ons>extensions than INSTALL the previous version, 1.01. Ever since I re-installed Foxmark 1.01 I everything runs smoothly again. Respectfully Yours, Bas. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. Skype: BasRoufs Google Talk: BasRoufs Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human ************************** From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Tue Nov 20 21:53:40 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:40 -0500 Subject: Satellite TV to PC In-Reply-To: <20071119111657.33e77eb7@graham-desktop> References: <20071119111657.33e77eb7@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711201353m674d0447s43b5d47cbfde56d0@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 19, 2007 6:16 AM, Graham wrote: > Has anyone seen this site: > > http://www.satellitetvtopc.com/ > > Seems like its too good to be true, and a little voice inside me says > when it appears that way, it probably is. Does anyone know about this > company? Quick whois returns this: Domain Name: SATELLITETVTOPC.COM Registrar: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE Whois Server: whois.melbourneit.com Referral URL: http://www.melbourneit.com Name Server: YNS1.YAHOO.COM Name Server: YNS2.YAHOO.COM Status: clientTransferProhibited Updated Date: 04-nov-2007 Creation Date: 15-nov-2005 Expiration Date: 15-nov-2008 Domain Name.......... satellitetvtopc.com Creation Date........ 2005-11-16 Registration Date.... 2005-11-16 Expiry Date.......... 2008-11-16 Organisation Name.... David Miller Organisation Address. SCPO Box 43128 Organisation Address. 4841 Yonge St. Organisation Address. Toronto Organisation Address. M2N 6N1 Organisation Address. ON Organisation Address. CANADA Admin Name........... david miller Admin Address........ SCPO Box 43128 Admin Address........ 4841 Yonge St. Admin Address........ Toronto Admin Address........ M2N 6N1 Admin Address........ ON Admin Address........ CANADA Admin Email.......... legal at satellitetvtopc.com Admin Phone.......... +1.2621500 Admin Fax............ Tech Name............ david miller Tech Address......... SCPO Box 43128 Tech Address......... 4841 Yonge St. Tech Address......... Toronto Tech Address......... M2N 6N1 Tech Address......... ON Tech Address......... CANADA Tech Email........... legal at satellitetvtopc.com Tech Phone........... +1.2621500 Tech Fax............. Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com Name Server.......... yns2.yahoo.com So this guy "David Miller" from "Toronto" (he has the same name as the mayor of Toronto?) is getting all of this money. Why is he the contact for organization, admin, and tech? Perhaps to have to forge as little info as possible. Also, that phone number looks a little fishy, but I don't want to call it to see if someone picks up (I bet you won't get through). Looking at the webpage makes me think even more that it is not legit. Check out the "reviews" from "real" people: ------------------------------------ THANK YOU !! 10/10 EXCELLENT AAA+ VERY GOOD VALUE ! - Jeff T. Fast Service! As Advertised! Thank You! - Mike O. I saved more than $500! - Peter R. BRILLIANT - Mary S. Product was just as described - Jacob W. Awesome, thanks! - Dan T. A++, would suggest to anyone. Thanks - Robert J. Product as described and works, Thanks - Rosa D. ------------------------------------- Pretty weak if you ask me. But what did Steve, Bill, and John have to say? I'm just saying that they all have _very_ common names; it shows a lack of creativity of David's part. At first glance I didn't believe this thing just because of the unprofessional design of the webpage. Also, he can't even host his own "video" (which, unfortunately, won't work for me) of the product "working". Maybe I'm too cynical, but I wouldn't give David one penny. Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From jriddell at ubuntu.com Tue Nov 20 23:37:40 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:37:40 +0000 Subject: [kubuntu-users] kde4? In-Reply-To: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20071120233740.GC17824@muse.19inch.net> On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 08:31:05PM +0000, pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > Are there going to be debs for kde4 rc1? See http://kubuntu.org/ Jonathan From paulatgm at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 03:30:45 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:30:45 -0500 Subject: [kubuntu-users] kde4? In-Reply-To: <20071120233740.GC17824@muse.19inch.net> References: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <20071120233740.GC17824@muse.19inch.net> Message-ID: <4743A665.2000203@gmail.com> Jonathan Riddell said the following on 11/20/2007 06:37 PM: > See http://kubuntu.org/ > > Jonathan When I try to follow the installation instructions for gutsy, I find a bunch of other packages are being upgraded too. For example, konversation, scorched3d-data, and a bunch of libs. So, are these needed for kde4rc1 or is it a mistake that they are in the same archive? From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 04:46:04 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:46:04 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <200711201342.19096.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <740645.12038.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200711201342.19096.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <4743B80C.30505@gmail.com> David McGlone wrote: > On Tuesday 20 November 2007 11:36:01 am Earl Violet wrote: > >>>>>>> 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] >>>>>>> 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] >>>>>>> 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] >>>>>>> > No. Combine the free partition with the ntfs partition, this will move the > data on the partition to the beginning of the drive > > example: > > Lets just say the free space is 10Gb and the ntfs partition is 20Gb and 5Gb of > the ntsf partition is full of data so: > > [free] [<-- ntsf data-->|<--rest of ntsf partition-->] > [<----- 5Gb ------>|<------------ 15Gb ------------->] > > Now lets merge the free space and the ntfs partition. Even though the free > space in _before_ the ntfs partition, when they are merged the data should > move to the beginning of the drive. > > So now we have: > > [<-- ntsf data -->|<------- rest of ntfs partition ------->] > [<----- 5Gb ------->|<-------------- 25Gb ----------------------->] > > Now we take the whole partition and shrink it leaving some free space at the > end of the drive. Lets say he wanted to have 10Gb of free space so we shrink > the whole ntfs drive from 30Gb to 20Gb > > so now we have. > > [<--ntsf data-->|<---rest of ntsf drive-->] [ free space] > [<---- 5Gb ------>|<------------15Gb----------->] [<-- 10Gb -->] > > Does that explain it better? great thanks for the help! here is my actual picture: [ swap ] [ blank partition ] [----------190 GB ntfs-----------] <---2Gb--> <---------40Gb--------> <-------140Gb------->|<---50Gb---> I did not understand how to merge 2 ntfs partitions. Do you mean i should create new ntfs partition on the place there 'blank' is located now and then copy files from 'old' partition to 'new' one? I don't think that's possible taking into account i have 140Gb of data on my 'old' partition and 'new' would be just 40Gb :-( From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 04:50:44 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:50:44 +0300 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <740645.12038.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <740645.12038.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4743B924.8070807@gmail.com> Earl Violet wrote: >>>>>> 1. [swap] [free] [ntsf] >>>>>> 2. [swap] [ ntsf ] >>>>>> 3 [swap] [ntsf] [free] >>>>>> > > OK, I might be getting confused here but it seems to me ... > > 1. [swap] [free] [ntfs] > move ntfs > 2. [swap] [ntfs] [free] > > where [free] is a blank partition. > > Then you stretch or shrink [ntfs] as necessary. Shrink it after > defragging and everything is in the front of the partition within the > limits you want to shrink it to. > > Earl thank you for reply, my gparted is not able to move ntfs partitions. I opened it's File menu and selected 'Features'. There's red cross against ntfs move operation :-( and the question is 'how to move ntfs partition' From cschult at gmx.de Wed Nov 21 06:13:11 2007 From: cschult at gmx.de (Christian Schult) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:13:11 +0100 Subject: Upgrade Feisty to Gutsy In-Reply-To: <47434CF7.7030606@tiscali.co.uk> References: <47434CF7.7030606@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20071121061311.GA15015@jazz.cocis.de> Hallo Wulfy, * Wulfy : > I upgraded from feisty to gutsy recently. I found that a number of > packages were in "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" in aptitude. > For most of them, I've been able to infer which package replaced them > but not for one, libdvdplay0. It depends on libdvdread3, which still > shows a reverse depends on it and is in Gutsy. Libdvdread3 from Gutsy (libdvdread3 0.9.7-3ubuntu1) has no rdepends on libdvdplay0. Libdvdplay0 does not exist for Gutsy. > So to my questions; > > 1) Is it safe to remove libdvdplay0? I play all my dvds through the > computer so I don't want to break anything... Deinstall libdvdplay0 and maybe install libdvdread3 again. Christian From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 21 07:04:31 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:04:31 +0000 Subject: Satellite TV to PC In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711201353m674d0447s43b5d47cbfde56d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071119111657.33e77eb7@graham-desktop> <9bed467e0711201353m674d0447s43b5d47cbfde56d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071121070431.7bd90b7c@graham-desktop> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:53:40 -0500 "Andrew Jarrett" wrote: > Maybe I'm too cynical, but I wouldn't give David one penny. > > Andrew I wouldn't either, but my cousin (who uses Mac OSX Tiger) did when advertised in eBay. Apparently the software runs only in Windows, so he's getting a refund. Given that the whole service "may" be legit (earlier posting which I can't find right now), and earlier posters say you can do this in Linux by checking the right software, does anybody actually know HOW to do this in Kubuntu? As long as its legit of course.... -- Graham Todd From exim-ml at rwz.de Wed Nov 21 08:58:43 2007 From: exim-ml at rwz.de (Jens Strohschnitter) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:58:43 +0100 Subject: Empty inittab after installing capidriver In-Reply-To: <200711201636.54119.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20071120145120.4a33fcd2@strohsje.rhg.de> <200711201636.54119.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20071121095843.735a961c@strohsje.rhg.de> > > after installing the fritz-packages my inittab seems to be replaced > > with some settings from the avm-fritz-capi driver. > > Is it possible to send me a default-inittab via pm ? > > What version of Kubuntu are you talking about? For Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) > there is no inittab file. Yep 7.10. Ok - after a new install I've seen that there is no inittab. But by the way, where do I configure the default-runlevel, when there is no inittab ? On other distributions there is an entry in the inittab. But where is it stored under kubuntu ? -- Regards, Jens Strohschnitter ------------------------------------- *!!!LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX LINUX!!!* * http://www.jens-strohschnitter.de * ------------------------------------- Set the controls for the heart of the sun ------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Raiffeisen Waren-Zentrale Rhein-Main eG 50668 Koeln, Altenberger Str. 1a Tel: 0221/1638-0 Fax: 0221/1638-254 Sitz: Koeln Amtsgericht Koeln, GnR 728 Geschaeftsfuehrender Vorstand: Hans-Josef Hilgers (Sprecher) Markus Stuettgen Dr. Karl-Heinrich Suemmermann Vorstand: Friedhelm Decker (Vorsitzender) Ingo Steitz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Peter Bleser (MdB) St.Nr.: 215/5938/0152 Bankverbindung: WGZ Bank AG, Duesseldorf (BLZ 300 600 10) Konto-Nr.: 300 011 From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 09:00:20 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:00:20 +0300 Subject: problems with locales In-Reply-To: <474305CF.7000009@gmail.com> References: <474305CF.7000009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4743F3A4.5090706@gmail.com> N.F. wrote: > Hi there, > > since updating the tzdata package this morning > (which failed) I cannot fix the locale vars on my Gutsy. > as you can see: > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LANGUAGE = "it_IT", > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). > locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory > locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or > directory > locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory > Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... > dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 > Errors were encountered while processing: > tzdata > > > > Anybody experienced the same problem ? > Any solution ? > > > thanks > > Nico i'm not sure, but you can try to recompile the locale >sudo locale-gen it_IT.UTF-8 and then try install tzdata again another workaround is to set locale variable to en_US.utf8 for apt >LANG=en_US.UTF-8 apt-get install --reinstall tzdata From capagira at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 10:33:04 2007 From: capagira at gmail.com (N.F.) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:33:04 +0000 Subject: problems with locales In-Reply-To: <4743F3A4.5090706@gmail.com> References: <474305CF.7000009@gmail.com> <4743F3A4.5090706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47440960.5000206@gmail.com> Received from / Ricevuta da: Alexander Smirnov [11/21/07 09:00]: > N.F. wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> since updating the tzdata package this morning >> (which failed) I cannot fix the locale vars on my Gutsy. >> as you can see: >> >> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. >> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: >> LANGUAGE = "it_IT", >> LC_ALL = (unset), >> LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" >> are supported and installed on your system. >> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). >> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory >> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or >> directory >> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory >> Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... >> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): >> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 >> Errors were encountered while processing: >> tzdata >> >> >> >> Anybody experienced the same problem ? >> Any solution ? >> >> >> thanks >> >> Nico >> > i'm not sure, but you can try to recompile the locale > >sudo locale-gen it_IT.UTF-8 > and then try install tzdata again > > another workaround is to set locale variable to en_US.utf8 for apt > >LANG=en_US.UTF-8 apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > > it did not work it seems it's a bug related to an nonexistent time zone: $ DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer sudo dpkg --configure tzdata Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... debconf (developer): frontend started debconf (developer): frontend running, package name is tzdata debconf (developer): starting /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.config configure debconf (developer): <-- VERSION 2.0 debconf (developer): --> 0 2.0 debconf (developer): <-- CAPB backup debconf (developer): --> 0 multiselect escape backup debconf (developer): <-- SET tzdata/Areas debconf (developer): --> 0 value set debconf (developer): <-- SET tzdata/Zones/ debconf (developer): --> 10 tzdata/Zones/ doesn't exist dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 Errors were encountered while processing: tzdata also found these related pages but no fix is working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583024 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/125349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 11:22:56 2007 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:22:56 +0100 Subject: SOLVED: Re: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47441510.6030909@gmail.com> Dear Everybody Yesterday I submitted my question with respect to the update/ upgrade difficulties of Thunderbird in Kubuntu 7.10. From both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu mailing lists, an overwhelming response came in. Thank you very much! In fact, all the feed back contained to different tendencies. One group of mails contained practical advises on how to install the newest version, Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 in the home directory in order to be able to get the updates all the time. A second group of mails reflected another approach. It explained why the updating of software like Thunderbird is being delayed deliberately in Linux distributions like Kubuntu and Ubuntu, in order to maintain a certain system stability. Taking these two different tendencies into consideration, I did another attempt to solve the problem while choosing for this system stability approach - the main reason for me to transfer from Windows to Linux. This time I managed to install the dictionaries that are 'not compatible' with Thunderbird 2.0.0.6: the Spanish, German, US English, Esperanto and Russian ones. In spite of the alleged 'incompatibility' all the dictionaries work fine - probably because they are .xpi files, like the dictionaries that are still 'officially' compatible with Thunderbird 2.0.0.6.: two Dutch dictionaries, a British English one, the Italian, old German and French ones. However it may be, I am satisfied now and I simply wait for the updates to be delivered in the framework of the Kubuntu distribution. I hope this short report is useful for others working with Thunderbird in more than one language. Respectfully Yours, Bas Roufs. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. Skype: BasRoufs Google Talk: BasRoufs Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human ************************** From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Nov 21 11:52:19 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 06:52:19 -0500 Subject: how to move ntfs partition? In-Reply-To: <4743B80C.30505@gmail.com> References: <740645.12038.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200711201342.19096.d.mcglone@att.net> <4743B80C.30505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711210652.19873.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 11:46:04 pm Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > here is my actual picture: > [ swap ] [ blank partition ] [----------190 GB ntfs-----------] > <---2Gb--> <---------40Gb--------> <-------140Gb------->|<---50Gb---> > > I did not understand how to merge 2 ntfs partitions. Do you mean i > should create new ntfs partition on the place there 'blank' is located > now and then copy files from 'old' partition to 'new' one? No. find a good partitioning tool that allows you to do everything. here is a suggestion. Does your ntfs drive have windows on it? http://shop.symantecstore.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=symnahho&Locale=en_US&ThemeID=106300&Env=BASE&productID=44316200&pgm=6037100 I used to use partition magic years ago. > I don't think > that's possible taking into account i have 140Gb of data on my 'old' > partition and 'new' would be just 40Gb :-( -- People are beginning to notice you. Try dressing before you leave the house. From capagira at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 12:01:59 2007 From: capagira at gmail.com (N.F.) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:01:59 +0000 Subject: problems with locales (solved) In-Reply-To: <4743F3A4.5090706@gmail.com> References: <474305CF.7000009@gmail.com> <4743F3A4.5090706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47441E37.8090304@gmail.com> Received from / Ricevuta da: Alexander Smirnov [11/21/07 09:00]: > N.F. wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> since updating the tzdata package this morning >> (which failed) I cannot fix the locale vars on my Gutsy. >> as you can see: >> >> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. >> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: >> LANGUAGE = "it_IT", >> LC_ALL = (unset), >> LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8" >> are supported and installed on your system. >> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). >> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory >> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or >> directory >> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory >> Setting up tzdata (2007i-0ubuntu0.7.10) ... >> dpkg: error processing tzdata (--configure): >> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 >> Errors were encountered while processing: >> tzdata >> >> >> >> Anybody experienced the same problem ? >> Any solution ? >> >> >> thanks >> >> Nico >> > i'm not sure, but you can try to recompile the locale > >sudo locale-gen it_IT.UTF-8 > and then try install tzdata again > > another workaround is to set locale variable to en_US.utf8 for apt > >LANG=en_US.UTF-8 apt-get install --reinstall tzdata > > OK setting another time zone did the trick: TZ_LOCALTIME='Europe/London' sudo dpkg --configure tzdata thanks for your help n. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ilias, Bengkalis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AliMilis Counted GNU/Linux Engineer # 405138 - http://counter.li.org/ Ubuntu User # 14458 - http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ From ppalma at american-appraisal.com Wed Nov 21 12:32:14 2007 From: ppalma at american-appraisal.com (ppalma at american-appraisal.com) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:32:14 +0300 Subject: Help with installation of Gutsy 7.10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello, I installed Gutsy on my laptop (Win XP + Gutsy) yesterday and almost everything went smoothly, but toward the end I did something silly. In trying to have a secondary larger monitor(found by the system) I probably selected the wrong configuration or something as when I rebooted (as requested by the installer) I get a black screen and nothing else. If I reboot and choose the safe mode I get to a command root prompt, but at that point I do not know what to do to change the configuration. Any help or suggestion for an old (agewise) newby? The sytem is a laptop Vaio SZ330 with 2 Meg DDR 2 memory, 120 Gig HDD, and a and a NVidia GE Force 7400 card. What other info are needed. TYIA Patrick (Alpino 65) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Nov 21 12:59:09 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:59:09 +0000 Subject: Upgrade Feisty to Gutsy In-Reply-To: <20071121061311.GA15015@jazz.cocis.de> References: <47434CF7.7030606@tiscali.co.uk> <20071121061311.GA15015@jazz.cocis.de> Message-ID: <47442B9D.7040908@tiscali.co.uk> Christian Schult wrote: > Hallo Wulfy, > > * Wulfy : > > >> I upgraded from feisty to gutsy recently. I found that a number of >> packages were in "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" in aptitude. >> For most of them, I've been able to infer which package replaced them >> but not for one, libdvdplay0. It depends on libdvdread3, which still >> shows a reverse depends on it and is in Gutsy. >> > > Libdvdread3 from Gutsy (libdvdread3 0.9.7-3ubuntu1) has no rdepends on > libdvdplay0. Libdvdplay0 does not exist for Gutsy. > > >> So to my questions; >> >> 1) Is it safe to remove libdvdplay0? I play all my dvds through the >> computer so I don't want to break anything... >> > > Deinstall libdvdplay0 and maybe install libdvdread3 again. > > Christian > > > Thanks, Christian! Though it's strange... I checked libdvdread3 before I e-mailed and it seemed to rdepend on libdvdplay0... the dependency is now gone. Anyway. No more "Obsolete...Packages"! :@) Thanks again. -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From cilazma at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 13:06:55 2007 From: cilazma at gmail.com (mehmet Dilmac) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:06:55 +0200 Subject: kde4? In-Reply-To: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4911ff840711210506j786105fbvd59f393cad92153e@mail.gmail.com> with "apt-get distupgrade" lunch all deb src 2007/11/20, pkaplan1 at comcast.net : > > Are there going to be debs for kde4 rc1? > Paul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- ____________ Mehmet Dilmac ___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 13:25:09 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:25:09 +0200 Subject: SOLVED: Re: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <47441510.6030909@gmail.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <47441510.6030909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711211525.09141.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I hope this short report is useful for others working with Thunderbird > in more than one language. Nice feedback Bas, thanks. You may find as your Kubuntu gets older that you become frustrated at how slowly new software arrives. Eventually it gets to a point where the new distros have all the latest stuff and yours will never see another byte of new code. That's when the most conservative of us will reluctantly upgrade to a new version of Kubuntu/whatever -- it's a balance between a stable "just-works" system and the desire/need for the latest software and it always picks a Sunday in ones' future and ruins it totally :D Keep on having fun with Gnu/Linux, there's nothing better! /d From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 21 12:18:01 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:18:01 -0400 Subject: kde4? References: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <4911ff840711210506j786105fbvd59f393cad92153e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62950724.4LUuxYRrZu@cedar.serverforest.com> mehmet Dilmac wrote: > with "apt-get distupgrade" lunch all deb src > I realize you're probably not a native English speaker, but could you please try again? That's not a meaningful sentence. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 21 12:15:39 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:15:39 -0400 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2366318.yCc1Q1WQHq@cedar.serverforest.com> NoOp wrote: > > Ubuntu's version is outdated; TB is now at 2.0.0.9 to fix a couple of > security issues: > > I really wish people would stop spreading this sort of FUD about Ubuntu. Check the changelogs _before_ making a statement like this, please. By definition, packages in a stable release of either Ubuntu or Debian will not get version updates (except in a -backports repository). So, thunderbird in Gutsy will probably always be version 2.0.0.8. However, security vulnerabilities will be fixed by applying the patch to the _stable_ code - as has been done on 2.0.0.8 (note, the two vulnerabilities noted in the link above are the first and last of this changelog): $ aptitude changelog thunderbird thunderbird (2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10) gutsy-security; urgency=low * 2.0.0.8 security/stability update (pre fetched from CVS): * MFSA 2007-29 aka CVE-2007-5339 (browser), CVE-2007-5340 (javascript) * MFSA 2007-30 aka CVE-2007-1095 * MFSA 2007-31 aka CVE-2007-2292 * MFSA 2007-32 aka CVE-2007-3511, CVE-2006-2894 * MFSA 2007-33 aka CVE-2007-5334 * MFSA 2007-34 aka CVE-2007-5337 * MFSA 2007-35 aka CVE-2007-5338 * MFSA 2007-36 aka CVE-2007-4841 (windows only) -- derek From jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org Wed Nov 21 14:15:16 2007 From: jtnews at mail2003.dnsalias.org (Jan Torben Heuer) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:15:16 +0100 Subject: kmail: cannot send attachments Message-ID: Anyone else, who cannot send attachments with mail/gutsy? I tried two different mailservers. Storing mails with attachments within disconnected-imap folder doesn't work, too: The message cannot be uploaded. In both cases, the operation hangs at around 20%.... Jan From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Wed Nov 21 14:31:27 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:31:27 +0000 Subject: kde4? In-Reply-To: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> References: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200711211431.27771.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Tuesday 20 November 2007 20:31:05 pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > Are there going to be debs for kde4 rc1? > Paul Take a look here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Wed Nov 21 14:36:11 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:36:11 +0000 Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? Message-ID: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> I am still using Kubuntu Edgy, which works fine for me. I noticed the questions and problems when Feisty appeared and I have now watched with interest the same with Gutsy. To me it seems that there are more queries and problems being aired about Gutsy than there ever were with Feisty. Or is just my imagination? I have installed Feisty on my brother's laptop and so far he seems pleased. From what I have read so far on this list I will stay clear of Gutsy. Or am I being unfair? Neil Winchurst From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 21 12:23:44 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:23:44 -0400 Subject: Empty inittab after installing capidriver References: <20071120145120.4a33fcd2@strohsje.rhg.de> <200711201636.54119.kassube@gmx.net> <20071121095843.735a961c@strohsje.rhg.de> Message-ID: <3667180.0i0jcPmyaP@cedar.serverforest.com> Jens Strohschnitter wrote: >> > after installing the fritz-packages my inittab seems to be replaced >> > with some settings from the avm-fritz-capi driver. >> > Is it possible to send me a default-inittab via pm ? >> >> What version of Kubuntu are you talking about? For Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) >> there is no inittab file. > > Yep 7.10. Ok - after a new install I've seen that there is no inittab. > But by the way, where do I configure the default-runlevel, when there is > no inittab ? On other distributions there is an entry in the inittab. But > where is it stored under kubuntu ? Somewhere in /etc/event.d/ I would expect. You might see /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl to find what upstart did with the old inittab, though I'm not 100% certain that's part of a default install (it's in the system-services package). -- derek From stdin at stdin.me.uk Wed Nov 21 14:41:33 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:41:33 +0000 Subject: kde4? In-Reply-To: <4911ff840711210506j786105fbvd59f393cad92153e@mail.gmail.com> References: <112020072031.2792.47434409000283F100000AE82207021573CE020E049F0E059F@comcast.net> <4911ff840711210506j786105fbvd59f393cad92153e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4744439D.6080704@stdin.me.uk> mehmet Dilmac wrote: > with "apt-get distupgrade" lunch all deb src > > Please note that you shouldn't just dist-upgrade the KDE4 packages, you need to remove all the old KDE4 Beta packages before you attempt to install the RC1 packages. If you don't then you'll get a lot of dependency errors and messages about files being overwritten. Terence From macariov at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 15:05:50 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (macariov at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:05:50 +0000 Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? In-Reply-To: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <1502140495-1195657552-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-106591779-@bxe111.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have been running gutsy since a month before the final release. My only problem has been the change in the way it handles wifi. I need to restart the network service everytime, after using vpn. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Neil Winchurst Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:36:11 To:kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? I am still using Kubuntu Edgy, which works fine for me. I noticed the questions and problems when Feisty appeared and I have now watched with interest the same with Gutsy. To me it seems that there are more queries and problems being aired about Gutsy than there ever were with Feisty. Or is just my imagination? I have installed Feisty on my brother's laptop and so far he seems pleased. From what I have read so far on this list I will stay clear of Gutsy. Or am I being unfair? Neil Winchurst -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 21 13:33:32 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:33:32 -0400 Subject: SOLVED: Re: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <47441510.6030909@gmail.com> <200711211525.09141.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1510894.pEaHg2Uqg1@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> I hope this short report is useful for others working with Thunderbird >> in more than one language. > Nice feedback Bas, thanks. Yeah - it's always nice to see feedback, especially from the newer users who are likely to just dump Ubuntu (and probably Linux) if they don't find solutions quickly -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 21 15:00:05 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:00:05 -0400 Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? References: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <3667208.upycdQeX8v@cedar.serverforest.com> Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am still using Kubuntu Edgy, which works fine for me. I noticed the > questions and problems when Feisty appeared and I have now watched with > interest the same with Gutsy. > > To me it seems that there are more queries and problems being aired > about Gutsy than there ever were with Feisty. Or is just my imagination? I think it is :-) To me it seems there are fewer queries - though my memory is notorious :-) > I have installed Feisty on my brother's laptop and so far he seems > pleased. From what I have read so far on this list I will stay clear of > Gutsy. Or am I being unfair? If you aren't adding any new features, imo there's no reason _not_ to upgrade. Most of the problems I've seen are related to some of the new features (like compiz) available for gutsy. Of course, I finally got my wife to use Kubuntu when I gave her my older laptop just before gutsy was released, and I haven't had the nerve to upgrade _hers_ yet :-) It's all a matter of how much a disaster might hurt! -- derek From bootgr at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 15:24:00 2007 From: bootgr at gmail.com (Greg Booth) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:24:00 -0600 Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? In-Reply-To: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <720b310e0711210724t4d4ccf5dqffd9e7f56165df44@mail.gmail.com> On 11/21/07, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am still using Kubuntu Edgy, which works fine for me. I noticed the > questions and problems when Feisty appeared and I have now watched with > interest the same with Gutsy. > > To me it seems that there are more queries and problems being aired > about Gutsy than there ever were with Feisty. Or is just my imagination? > I have installed Feisty on my brother's laptop and so far he seems > pleased. From what I have read so far on this list I will stay clear of > Gutsy. Or am I being unfair? > > Neil Winchurst I don't think you're being TOTALLY unfair, there are issues, but there are also more and more people just trying linux and running into problems they don't know how to fix themselves. However if what you have works to your satisfaction why change ?? Greg From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Wed Nov 21 15:27:55 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:27:55 +0000 Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? In-Reply-To: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <47444E7B.4090103@tiscali.co.uk> Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am still using Kubuntu Edgy, which works fine for me. I noticed the > questions and problems when Feisty appeared and I have now watched with > interest the same with Gutsy. > > To me it seems that there are more queries and problems being aired > about Gutsy than there ever were with Feisty. Or is just my imagination? > I have installed Feisty on my brother's laptop and so far he seems > pleased. From what I have read so far on this list I will stay clear of > Gutsy. Or am I being unfair? > > Neil Winchurst > > I moved to Kubuntu from Debian Sarge. That was when Edgy Eft was current. I upgraded to Feisty and recently to Gutsy with no problems at all. I do wait for a bit after the release to see what problems people encounter, though. I use aptitude exclusively for package management. Some people were not as lucky as I've been. With software as complex as an OS, it's inevitable that some will problems at upgrade time... but the people on this list always seem to come through with solutions. I love the Kubuntu Community! So helpful! :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From macariov at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 15:41:34 2007 From: macariov at gmail.com (macariov at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:41:34 +0000 Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? In-Reply-To: <720b310e0711210724t4d4ccf5dqffd9e7f56165df44@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com><720b310e0711210724t4d4ccf5dqffd9e7f56165df44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1508545270-1195659694-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1955617241-@bxe111.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Change is the only constant, the quest for perfection. We geeks will always upgrade to the latest. I keep one disk on one of my destops with xp, that I do not patch, unless it is a high priority one, the I have varios versions of linux and windows. I keep my important files on a usb disk, but try to keep ubuntu to the latest as well as windows vista, down to beta patches. When I see a stable release, then I update my main pc windows and ubuntu partitions to that level. That ussualy happens once a year or less. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Greg Booth" Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:24:00 To:"Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Subject: Re: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? On 11/21/07, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I am still using Kubuntu Edgy, which works fine for me. I noticed the > questions and problems when Feisty appeared and I have now watched with > interest the same with Gutsy. > > To me it seems that there are more queries and problems being aired > about Gutsy than there ever were with Feisty. Or is just my imagination? > I have installed Feisty on my brother's laptop and so far he seems > pleased. From what I have read so far on this list I will stay clear of > Gutsy. Or am I being unfair? > > Neil Winchurst I don't think you're being TOTALLY unfair, there are issues, but there are also more and more people just trying linux and running into problems they don't know how to fix themselves. However if what you have works to your satisfaction why change ?? Greg -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Wed Nov 21 15:42:13 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:42:13 +0000 Subject: Mouse gestures Message-ID: <200711211542.14252.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> I've just noticed that with 7.10 I am unable to use mouse gestures in Konqueror, they worked fine in 7.04. I've looked in Input Actions under Accessibility in System Settings and there are no Actions pre-loaded. Should they be there and how do I get them back? From glgxg at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 21 18:13:30 2007 From: glgxg at sbcglobal.net (NoOp) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:13:30 -0800 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <2366318.yCc1Q1WQHq@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <2366318.yCc1Q1WQHq@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On 11/21/2007 04:15 AM, Derek Broughton wrote: > NoOp wrote: > >> >> Ubuntu's version is outdated; TB is now at 2.0.0.9 to fix a couple of >> security issues: >> >> > > > I really wish people would stop spreading this sort of FUD about Ubuntu. > Check the changelogs _before_ making a statement like this, please. > > By definition, packages in a stable release of either Ubuntu or Debian will > not get version updates (except in a -backports repository). So, > thunderbird in Gutsy will probably always be version 2.0.0.8. However, > security vulnerabilities will be fixed by applying the patch to the > _stable_ code - as has been done on 2.0.0.8 (note, the two vulnerabilities > noted in the link above are the first and last of this changelog): > > $ aptitude changelog thunderbird > thunderbird (2.0.0.8~pre071022+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10) gutsy-security; > urgency=low > > * 2.0.0.8 security/stability update (pre fetched from CVS): > * MFSA 2007-29 aka CVE-2007-5339 (browser), CVE-2007-5340 (javascript) > * MFSA 2007-30 aka CVE-2007-1095 > * MFSA 2007-31 aka CVE-2007-2292 > * MFSA 2007-32 aka CVE-2007-3511, CVE-2006-2894 > * MFSA 2007-33 aka CVE-2007-5334 > * MFSA 2007-34 aka CVE-2007-5337 > * MFSA 2007-35 aka CVE-2007-5338 > * MFSA 2007-36 aka CVE-2007-4841 (windows only) > You are correct & thanks for pointing that out *and* the command to view the changes. Perhaps the solution to alleviating future FUD would be to change the revision to 2.0.0.9 in order to maintain the revision numbering in the source product. From ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk Wed Nov 21 18:59:09 2007 From: ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk (ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:59:09 +0000 Subject: kmail: cannot send attachments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20071121185909.dqedtcg4bo480gck@www.ronnietucker.co.uk> Not sure if this is the right answer but: When I first installed Thunderbird2 on my Kubuntu I couldn't send an email to any more than four people per email and attachments were a no-no. Solution: make sure to enable the SSL log-in when sending... Quoting Jan Torben Heuer : > Anyone else, who cannot send attachments with mail/gutsy? > > I tried two different mailservers. Storing mails with attachments within > disconnected-imap folder doesn't work, too: The message cannot be uploaded. > > In both cases, the operation hangs at around 20%.... > > > Jan > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:  > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users[1] > Links: ------ [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 21 19:53:21 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:53:21 -0400 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <2366318.yCc1Q1WQHq@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <1629002.DXhTyeyLgs@cedar.serverforest.com> NoOp wrote: > Perhaps the solution to alleviating future FUD would be to > change the revision to 2.0.0.9 in order to maintain the revision > numbering in the source product. But it _isn't_ 2.0.0.9 - it's 2.0.0.8 plus security patches. In this case, that might not really make a difference, but often upstream applies their security patches to _their_ latest stable release, which is not always the same thing as downstream's stable version. -- derek From cms0009 at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 21:39:12 2007 From: cms0009 at gmail.com (Richard) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 16:39:12 -0500 Subject: Konqueror in KDE 4 Message-ID: <200711211639.12951.cms0009@gmail.com> does anyone know of if Konqueror is going to get a update in functionality , in KDE 4 ? (compare it to: firefox beta 3 ) Thanks - From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Nov 21 23:36:26 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:36:26 -0600 Subject: Gutsy Gibbon more problems?? In-Reply-To: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> References: <20071121143611.7623aff9.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> Message-ID: <4744C0FA.6080905@swbell.net> On 11/21/2007 Neil Winchurst wrote: > To me it seems that there are more queries and problems being aired > about Gutsy than there ever were with Feisty. Or is just my imagination? > I have installed Feisty on my brother's laptop and so far he seems > pleased. From what I have read so far on this list I will stay clear of > Gutsy. Or am I being unfair? I tried out Feisty for the first time just before Gutsy came out. I then upgraded within a short time. It's been a pleasure for both. Things that drove me crazy in the other Linux OS I use were non-existent. [ That doesn't mean that I don't have a wish list but......... ] I'm a firm convert to Kubuntu. I wouldn't be afraid of Gutsy at all if your happy with Feisty. From anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net Thu Nov 22 01:06:21 2007 From: anthony.baldwin01 at comcast.net (anthony baldwin) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:06:21 -0500 Subject: Thanks Message-ID: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> Muchas gracias Muito obrigado Merci beaucoup Thanks a bunch! /tony -- http://www.baldwinlinguas.com Translation & Interpreting From glgxg at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 22 04:28:26 2007 From: glgxg at sbcglobal.net (NoOp) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:28:26 -0800 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. In-Reply-To: <1629002.DXhTyeyLgs@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <2366318.yCc1Q1WQHq@cedar.serverforest.com> <1629002.DXhTyeyLgs@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On 11/21/2007 11:53 AM, Derek Broughton wrote: > NoOp wrote: > >> Perhaps the solution to alleviating future FUD would be to >> change the revision to 2.0.0.9 in order to maintain the revision >> numbering in the source product. > > But it _isn't_ 2.0.0.9 - it's 2.0.0.8 plus security patches. In this case, > that might not really make a difference, but often upstream applies their > security patches to _their_ latest stable release, which is not always the > same thing as downstream's stable version. Agreed. But applying small security patches to a source product doesn't necessarily mean that the Ubuntu package is updated to a source package, even many revisions later. I give you Ubuntu's OpenOffice on Feisty for example. OOo on Feisty is at 2.2 while Gutsy is at 2.3. There are serious problems with (U)OOo 2.2, and still quite a few problems with (U)OOo 2.3. While both may have applicable security patches applied, both do not have some features that the OpenOffice.org version does (Address Data Sources, Wizards & Base are a good example). Then again, (U)OOo have some features that OOo does not have (MS Works import filter is an example). (As and FYI: Mozilla are due to release yet another security update within the next few days). Point being is that the user cannot assume that their (U)OOo version 2.2 is the same as OpenOffice.org's 2.2 or the latest 2.3. Nor can the user reasonably expect that (U)TB 2.0.0.8 is the same as Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.9. That said; it's nice to have a choice :-) Followups set to ubuntu.user. From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 08:46:46 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:46:46 +0300 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <474541F6.3030001@gmail.com> anthony baldwin wrote: > Muchas gracias > Muito obrigado > Merci beaucoup > Thanks a bunch! > > /tony Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 13:50:59 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:50:59 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly Message-ID: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> Today I started getting popup messages from KDE that warn that XXX application is causing the whole system to slow down, and it asks if I want to kill XXX. If I say no, then another popup asks if I want to ignore application XXX in the future. All of my apps are throwing this error today, including firefox and skype. I'd post the exact message, but my system is not in English. Where should I begin to see why my apps are throwing these errors? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 14:46:26 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:46:26 +0100 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That sounds like the apllet "run away process catch" You just need to click it and set it to some setting that works for your system. It should be on the bar on the bottom of the screen. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From benjamin.heil at bheil.net Thu Nov 22 14:57:51 2007 From: benjamin.heil at bheil.net (Benjamin Heil) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:57:51 +0100 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <474541F6.3030001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711221557.53039.benjamin.heil@bheil.net> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) Am Thursday 22 November 2007 um 15:47:06 schrieb Martin Walshe: > Go raibh míle maith agat :) (Irish) > > On Nov 22, 2007 8:46 AM, Alexander Smirnov > > wrote: > > anthony baldwin wrote: > > > Muchas gracias > > > Muito obrigado > > > Merci beaucoup > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > > > > /tony > > > > Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 15:46:47 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:46:47 +0200 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711221557.53039.benjamin.heil@bheil.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221557.53039.benjamin.heil@bheil.net> Message-ID: <200711221746.47997.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Baie dankie (Afrikaans) Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) :D > Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) > > > > Muchas gracias > > > > Muito obrigado > > > > Merci beaucoup > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 16:04:09 2007 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:04:09 +0100 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711221746.47997.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221557.53039.benjamin.heil@bheil.net> <200711221746.47997.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4745A879.7030209@gmail.com> Bedankt! (Dutch) Grazie! (Italian) :-) (universal language) > Baie dankie (Afrikaans) > Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) > :D > > >> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) >> >>>>> Muchas gracias >>>>> Muito obrigado >>>>> Merci beaucoup >>>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>>> >>>> Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) >>>> -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. Skype: BasRoufs Google Talk: BasRoufs Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human ************************** From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 22 15:27:17 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:27:17 -0400 Subject: (New to Kubuntu/ Linux) Update/ upgrade difficulties Thunderbird. References: <4742DC63.2020302@gmail.com> <2366318.yCc1Q1WQHq@cedar.serverforest.com> <1629002.DXhTyeyLgs@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <1448178.f9rujSzbVW@cedar.serverforest.com> NoOp wrote: > On 11/21/2007 11:53 AM, Derek Broughton wrote: >> NoOp wrote: >> >>> Perhaps the solution to alleviating future FUD would be to >>> change the revision to 2.0.0.9 in order to maintain the revision >>> numbering in the source product. >> >> But it _isn't_ 2.0.0.9 - it's 2.0.0.8 plus security patches. In this >> case, that might not really make a difference, but often upstream applies >> their security patches to _their_ latest stable release, which is not >> always the same thing as downstream's stable version. > > Agreed. But applying small security patches to a source product doesn't > necessarily mean that the Ubuntu package is updated to a source package, > even many revisions later. > > I give you Ubuntu's OpenOffice on Feisty for example. OOo on Feisty is > at 2.2 while Gutsy is at 2.3. There are serious problems with (U)OOo > 2.2, and still quite a few problems with (U)OOo 2.3. While both may have > applicable security patches applied, both do not have some features that > the OpenOffice.org version does (Address Data Sources, Wizards & Base > are a good example). Then again, (U)OOo have some features that OOo does > not have (MS Works import filter is an example). I thought that was _my_ point :-) You suggested the OOo maintainer should have changed the revision number to 2.0.0.9, but it's _really_ 2.0.0.8 with the same security changes that OOo applied to 2.0.0.9. I've got no idea if 2.0.0.9 includes anything _but_ security changes, so it could be that they'd really be the same, but I think it's right for the maintainers to note that they're only applying patches to the specific version Ubuntu supports. > > Point being is that the user cannot assume that their (U)OOo version 2.2 > is the same as OpenOffice.org's 2.2 or the latest 2.3. Nor can the user > reasonably expect that (U)TB 2.0.0.8 is the same as Mozilla Thunderbird > 2.0.0.9. That said; it's nice to have a choice :-) Absolutely - if you want 2.0.0.9, you have to go to Mozilla. > > Followups set to ubuntu.user. -- derek From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Thu Nov 22 16:38:33 2007 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:38:33 +0000 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <4745A879.7030209@gmail.com> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221557.53039.benjamin.heil@bheil.net> <200711221746.47997.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4745A879.7030209@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4745B089.60001@yahoo.it> Bas Roufs wrote: > Bedankt! (Dutch) > Grazie! (Italian) Molte grazie Grazie mille (Italian alternate forms :) ) Choukran (Arabic) > :-) (universal language) >> Baie dankie (Afrikaans) >> Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) >> :D >> >> >>> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) >>> >>>>>> Muchas gracias >>>>>> Muito obrigado >>>>>> Merci beaucoup >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>>>> >>>>> Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) >>>>> > > From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 16:53:11 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:53:11 +0200 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <4745B089.60001@yahoo.it> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <4745A879.7030209@gmail.com> <4745B089.60001@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200711221853.11116.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Or, as my gran says, "Tanks!" To which the proper response is "Reservoir!" :) > > Bedankt! (Dutch) > > Grazie! (Italian) > Molte grazie > Grazie mille (Italian alternate forms :) ) > Choukran (Arabic) > >> Baie dankie (Afrikaans) > >> Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) > >>> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) > >>>>>> Muchas gracias > >>>>>> Muito obrigado > >>>>>> Merci beaucoup > >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! > >>>>> Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) From whitover-1 at btconnect.com Thu Nov 22 17:50:08 2007 From: whitover-1 at btconnect.com (John Hansen) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:50:08 +0000 Subject: USB drive Message-ID: <4745C150.3070305@btconnect.com> I have so far chiefly used Kubuntu 7.04 for email and webbrowsing. Is there an easy guide on how to save files generated in Open Office be it to the hard drive or an USB memory stick? I also need to learn how I transfer data from the USB memory to an Open Office application. I am sure these action are simple to perform but the books i have seem fairly mute on the subjects or perhaps I have not interpreted the info correctly. John From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 18:09:10 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:09:10 +0200 Subject: USB drive In-Reply-To: <4745C150.3070305@btconnect.com> References: <4745C150.3070305@btconnect.com> Message-ID: <200711222009.10778.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Is there an easy guide on how to save files generated in Open Office be > it to the hard drive Same as any other O/S: File->Save from OOO. You will get a file dialogue where you choose a folder and so forth. > or an USB memory stick? Plug the stick in. If all goes well and the system identifies it okay, you'll see a new icon on your desktop. This is known as "mounting" a drive. Open that and you can browse the stick. (If there is a problem the icon won't show.) To save files to it directly from an app like OOO, you must find what it's called. This is known as the "mount" point -- a name given to a folder that represents your USB stick. Open Konqueror or Dolphin and go to /media and look at the folders there. (After mounting your stick). Your stick will likely be called "disk" but it may have a particular name like my mp3 player is show as a folder called "TSONIC310". Go into that folder and save your files as normal. > I also need to learn how I transfer data from the USB memory to an Open > Office application. Same as above. Mount, go File->Open from OOO and browse to your stick's folder in the /media directory. Find the file and choose open. To copy stuff between your system and the stick, open the stick (double click the icon on the desktop) and also open another folder (somewhere you have files) and drag and drop between them. NB: When you are done with the stick, be sure to "Safely Remove" it by right clicking the icon on the desktop. Then you can pull it out okay. HTH \d From mlsoft at videotron.ca Thu Nov 22 18:13:13 2007 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:13:13 -0500 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711221853.11116.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <4745B089.60001@yahoo.it> <200711221853.11116.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711221313.13827.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On November 22, 2007 11:53:11 Donn wrote: > Or, as my gran says, "Tanks!" To which the proper response is "Reservoir!" > :) > > > > Bedankt! (Dutch) > > > Grazie! (Italian) > > Molte grazie > > Grazie mille (Italian alternate forms :) ) > > Choukran (Arabic) > > >> Baie dankie (Afrikaans) > > >> Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) > > >>> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) > > >>>>>> Muchas gracias > > >>>>>> Muito obrigado > > >>>>>> Merci beaucoup > > >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! > > >>>>> Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) Merci beaucoup! (Francais/French) -- Martin Laberge, 30 years of unix admin... and still learning! mlsoft at videotron.ca (418) 575-2945 From technowizard at gmx.net Thu Nov 22 18:50:47 2007 From: technowizard at gmx.net (Jan Michelsburg) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:50:47 +0100 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711221313.13827.mlsoft@videotron.ca> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221853.11116.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711221313.13827.mlsoft@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <200711221950.48230.technowizard@gmx.net> Am Donnerstag 22 November 2007 19:13:13 schrieb Martin Laberge: > On November 22, 2007 11:53:11 Donn wrote: > > Or, as my gran says, "Tanks!" To which the proper response is > > "Reservoir!" > > > > :) > > : > > > > Bedankt! (Dutch) > > > > Grazie! (Italian) > > > > > > Molte grazie > > > Grazie mille (Italian alternate forms :) ) > > > Choukran (Arabic) > > > > > > >> Baie dankie (Afrikaans) > > > >> Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) > > > >> > > > >>> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) > > > >>> > > > >>>>>> Muchas gracias > > > >>>>>> Muito obrigado > > > >>>>>> Merci beaucoup > > > >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) > > Merci beaucoup! (Francais/French) tack så mycket! (Swedish) From arisk at spidernet.com.cy Thu Nov 22 19:00:58 2007 From: arisk at spidernet.com.cy (Aristides Kaponides) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:00:58 +0200 Subject: skype on kubuntu? Message-ID: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> I am completely newbie on Linux.Can we use skype on Kubuntu.I have downloaded it but couldnt open it.Explicit instructions are very welcomed. From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Nov 22 19:13:38 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:13:38 +0000 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> Message-ID: <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> Aristides Kaponides wrote: > I am completely newbie on Linux.Can we use skype on Kubuntu.I have > downloaded it but couldnt open it.Explicit instructions are very welcomed. > > Take a look at the help page on installing skype Terence From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Nov 22 19:29:31 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:29:31 -0600 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please Message-ID: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> As I understand it, if I edit fstab it will mount my other drives on my computer at startup. Is that correct? If not, where would I edit? I have XP on sdb1 and OpenSuSE home on sda3, root on sda2. I would like to have both drives mounted on startup, but not the SuSE root partition. Once in a while I run across something that I want for XP and it would just be nice to download to the proper drive/directory. I also have some files on the SuSE drive that I would like to have access to from time to time. My first experience in Linux with SuSE back about 9.* it was automatic. When I got back to Linux [ OpenSuSE 10.0 ] it no longer was. Wish list item: Mount other drives automatically. Anyway, IF I am correct that fstab is the correct place could someone post a hint as to the format of the line to add? This is my current fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/hda1 UUID=f5818467-4e5c-4219-94f2-182bf7e6b42b / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/hda5 UUID=b06ff899-4a37-4613-9020-5ada5959c8b9 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0 /dev/sdc /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec 0 0 OK, I understand the "/dev/*" part and the "/media/*" part the rest of it I'm not sure of. The first is the device/drive to be mounted. The second is where to put it and what it's called. I assume that I would do something like "/dev/sdb1 /media/Windows" but what is all that other stuff? This is the output of fdisk -l for this drive: Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 80032038912 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9730 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x23213b72 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 9730 78156193+ 7 HPFS/NTFS I'm just VERY leery of editing something without some guidance. I get enough IDTenT errors without trying to create another. TIA From whitover-1 at btconnect.com Thu Nov 22 21:04:37 2007 From: whitover-1 at btconnect.com (John Hansen) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:04:37 +0000 Subject: USB drive In-Reply-To: <200711222009.10778.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4745C150.3070305@btconnect.com> <200711222009.10778.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4745EEE5.5060204@btconnect.com> Donn wrote: >> Is there an easy guide on how to save files generated in Open Office be >> it to the hard drive > Same as any other O/S: File->Save from OOO. > You will get a file dialogue where you choose a folder and so forth. > >> or an USB memory stick? > Plug the stick in. If all goes well and the system identifies it okay, you'll > see a new icon on your desktop. This is known as "mounting" a drive. Open > that and you can browse the stick. > > (If there is a problem the icon won't show.) > > To save files to it directly from an app like OOO, you must find what it's > called. This is known as the "mount" point -- a name given to a folder that > represents your USB stick. Open Konqueror or Dolphin and go to /media and > look at the folders there. (After mounting your stick). Your stick will > likely be called "disk" but it may have a particular name like my mp3 player > is show as a folder called "TSONIC310". Go into that folder and save your > files as normal. > >> I also need to learn how I transfer data from the USB memory to an Open >> Office application. > Same as above. Mount, go File->Open from OOO and browse to your stick's folder > in the /media directory. Find the file and choose open. > > To copy stuff between your system and the stick, open the stick (double click > the icon on the desktop) and also open another folder (somewhere you have > files) and drag and drop between them. > > NB: When you are done with the stick, be sure to "Safely Remove" it by right > clicking the icon on the desktop. Then you can pull it out okay. > > HTH > \d > > Thanks for most helpful advice. John From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Thu Nov 22 21:10:02 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:10:02 -0400 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200711221610.02524.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Wednesday 21 November 2007, anthony baldwin wrote: > Muchas gracias > Muito obrigado > Merci beaucoup > Thanks a bunch! Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto. (One of the few things I can say in Japanese.) Dankon. (Esperanto) -- D. Michael McIntyre From magick.crow at gmail.com Thu Nov 22 21:38:10 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:38:10 +0100 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: If that does not work for you, you can get it to work using Automatix. Douglas > > Take a look at the help page on installing skype > > > Terence > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From technowizard at gmx.net Thu Nov 22 22:03:36 2007 From: technowizard at gmx.net (Jan Michelsburg) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:03:36 +0100 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> Am Donnerstag 22 November 2007 22:38:10 schrieb Knapp: > If that does not work for you, you can get it to work using Automatix. > Douglas > Don't use Automatix, it's unessesary cause the repository is all you need and it can really screw up your system. Jan > > Take a look at the help page on installing skype > > > > > > Terence From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Nov 22 22:31:34 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:31:34 +0000 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47460346.6000800@stdin.me.uk> Jan Michelsburg wrote: > Am Donnerstag 22 November 2007 22:38:10 schrieb Knapp: > >> If that does not work for you, you can get it to work using Automatix. >> Douglas >> >> > > Don't use Automatix, it's unessesary cause the repository is all you need and > it can really screw up your system. > > Jan > It's also explicitly not supported for many reasons, some of which are outlined here: Terence From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 00:08:55 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:08:55 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00711221608q5e4d366crbc5055c6cf578d4f@mail.gmail.com> On 22/11/2007, Knapp wrote: > That sounds like the apllet "run away process catch" You just need to click > it and set it to some setting that works for your system. It should be on > the bar on the bottom of the screen. > Douglas Thank you, as a matter of fact I did recently add that to the panel. Gone now! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 00:54:19 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:54:19 -0500 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please In-Reply-To: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> References: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200711221954.19674.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 22 November 2007 2:29:31 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > As I understand it, if I edit fstab it will mount my other drives on my > computer at startup. Is that correct? If not, where would I edit? > > I have XP on sdb1 and OpenSuSE home on sda3, root on sda2. I would like > to have both drives mounted on startup, but not the SuSE root partition. > Once in a while I run across something that I want for XP and it would > just be nice to download to the proper drive/directory. I also have some > files on the SuSE drive that I would like to have access to from time to > time. My first experience in Linux with SuSE back about 9.* it was > automatic. When I got back to Linux [ OpenSuSE 10.0 ] it no longer was. > > Wish list item: > Mount other drives automatically. > > Anyway, IF I am correct that fstab is the correct place could someone > post a hint as to the format of the line to add? Go to system settings->advance tab->disk & filesystems and set up the partitions you want to mount. It's easier than editing fstab. To answer your question, fstab is the place that will mount your drives at startup, so you are correct. Here is how I mount my extra partitions. I first determine where I want them mounted, in my case I mount all my partitions in /media, next I create a folder that I want to mount them in. In my case I went with xp for my sda1 and d for sdb8 and e for sdb9. Then I go to disk & filesystems in the system settings, select the partition I want to mount and add the mount point and permissions for users to mount and unmount. Viola! fstab is written with all the correct entries and params. :-) And of course don't forget to mount them. :-) -- Avoid reality at all costs. From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 00:58:10 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:58:10 -0500 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711221950.48230.technowizard@gmx.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221313.13827.mlsoft@videotron.ca> <200711221950.48230.technowizard@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711221958.10366.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 22 November 2007 1:50:47 pm Jan Michelsburg wrote: > Am Donnerstag 22 November 2007 19:13:13 schrieb Martin Laberge: > > On November 22, 2007 11:53:11 Donn wrote: > > > Or, as my gran says, "Tanks!" To which the proper response is > > > "Reservoir!" > > > > > > :) > > > : > > > > > Bedankt! (Dutch) > > > > > Grazie! (Italian) > > > > > > > > Molte grazie > > > > Grazie mille (Italian alternate forms :) ) > > > > Choukran (Arabic) > > > > > > > > >> Baie dankie (Afrikaans) > > > > >> Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) > > > > >> > > > > >>> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Muchas gracias > > > > >>>>>> Muito obrigado > > > > >>>>>> Merci beaucoup > > > > >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) > > > > Merci beaucoup! (Francais/French) > > tack så mycket! (Swedish) I don't care! (American) ;-) -- "You have heard me speak of Professor Moriarty?" "The famous scientific criminal, as famous among crooks as --" "My blushes, Watson," Holmes murmured, in a deprecating voice. "I was about to say 'as he is unknown to the public.'" -- A. Conan Doyle, "The Valley of Fear" From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Nov 23 01:49:04 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:49:04 -0600 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please In-Reply-To: <200711221954.19674.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> <200711221954.19674.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <47463190.9020609@swbell.net> On 11/22/2007 David McGlone wrote: > Go to system settings->advance tab->disk & filesystems and set up the > partitions you want to mount. It's easier than editing fstab. To answer your > question, fstab is the place that will mount your drives at startup, so you > are correct. Thank you VERY much. That's certainly a LOT less scary than what I was thinking. From anton at wilddsl.net.au Fri Nov 23 02:34:47 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:34:47 +1100 Subject: Konqueror - ebay "server certificate failed" Message-ID: <47463C47.70805@wilddsl.net.au> Hello, I just tried to register on ebay.com.au and got a "server certificate failed" error. Does anyone know what this means and what I should do? This is what happened: I clicked "register" at the top of the page at http://cgi.ebay.com.au/YPbPr-Component-VGA-BOX-HD-Component-to-RGBHV-Monitor_W0QQitemZ280174811088QQihZ018QQcategoryZ175QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and Konqueror popped up this dialog: The server certificate failed the authenticity test (au.ebayobjects.com.au). [Details] [Continue] [Cancel] Details: Current connection is secured with SSL. Chain: (empty) Peer Certificate: Organisation: eBay Inc. Organisational unit: Site operations Terms of use at www.verisign.com/rpa (c)05 Locality: San Jose State: California Country: US Common name: *.ebayobjects.com.au Issuer: Organisation: Verisign, Inc. Organisational unit: Versign Trust Network Terms of use at https://www.versign.com/rpa (c)05 Country: US Common name: Versign Class 3 Secure Server CA IP address: 210.50.7.239 URL: https://au.ebayobjects.com.au:443 Certificate state: Certificate signing authority is unknown or invalid. Valid from: Tuesday 02 October 2007 00:00:00 GMT Valid until: Friday 21 November 2008 23:59:59 GMT Serial number: 35812564596453434727481504689840552580 MD5 digest: 6B:B7:50:69:C5:BA:AE:EF:73:61:46:EA:A9:99:3E:C5 Cipher in use: AES256-SHA Details: AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 SSL version: TLSv1/SSLv3 Cipher strength: 256 bits used of a 256 bit cipher Any help appreciated, Regards, Anton. From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 02:39:22 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:39:22 -0500 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please In-Reply-To: <47463190.9020609@swbell.net> References: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> <200711221954.19674.d.mcglone@att.net> <47463190.9020609@swbell.net> Message-ID: <200711222139.22804.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 22 November 2007 8:49:04 pm Billie Walsh wrote: > On 11/22/2007 David McGlone wrote: > > Go to system settings->advance tab->disk & filesystems and set up the > > partitions you want to mount. It's easier than editing fstab. To answer > > your > > > question, fstab is the place that will mount your drives at startup, so > > you > > > are correct. > > Thank you VERY much. That's certainly a LOT less scary than what I was > thinking. No problem. I remember my RH 6.1 days. Had to edit virtually every file by hand to get a lot of things to work. nowdays I like to take it easy and find a GUI solution. -- David M. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 04:13:05 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:13:05 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <880dece00711221608q5e4d366crbc5055c6cf578d4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00711221608q5e4d366crbc5055c6cf578d4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > That sounds like the apllet "run away process catch" You just need to Hell, I remember trying that thing. It's the 0.00001 Kg little nervous yapping dog applet that won't stop and jumps at it's own shadow. Man did I ever kick it out of the top floor window faster than I could yell "Catch!" \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 04:15:46 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:15:46 +0200 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711221610.02524.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221610.02524.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711230615.46854.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto. (One of the few things I can say in Japanese.) Domo ... domo ... dumdum dumdum dee dee didi .. dah dah dahdah dah ... Oh man, I had forgotten that tune :D \d From arthur at avefoodcoop.ca Fri Nov 23 04:13:58 2007 From: arthur at avefoodcoop.ca (Arthur Dyck) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:13:58 -0700 Subject: display crash Message-ID: <1195791238.13222.5.camel@arthur-desktop> I have an IBM T30 running Gutsy Gibbon. I believe the video driver is ATI. My monitor display has suddenly gone bonkers and is illegible. I have one file of documents that I need to get off of that computer. I am able to log on legibly in fail safe mode in konsole. Can anyone give me instructions on how to either fix my monitor display or copy the files that I need onto a USB memory stick? Many Thanks. Arthur From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Nov 23 05:03:10 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:03:10 -0500 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please In-Reply-To: <200711222139.22804.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> <47463190.9020609@swbell.net> <200711222139.22804.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711230003.10477.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 22 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > No problem. I remember my RH 6.1 days. Had to edit virtually every file by > hand to get a lot of things to work. nowdays I like to take it easy and > find a GUI solution. I wonder how long this has existed. Not only is this easier for Billie, but it's easier for the people trying to help too. This is a nice little touch. Thing really are getting easier, one small step at a time. -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Nov 23 05:06:30 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:06:30 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00711221608q5e4d366crbc5055c6cf578d4f@mail.gmail.com> <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Thursday 22 November 2007, Donn wrote: > > > That sounds like the apllet "run away process catch" You just need to > > Hell, I remember trying that thing. It's the 0.00001 Kg little nervous > yapping dog applet that won't stop and jumps at it's own shadow. Man did I > ever kick it out of the top floor window faster than I could yell "Catch!" I got rid of the applet too, but I'm still stuck with my wife's little yappy dog. -- D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 05:10:24 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:10:24 +0200 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please In-Reply-To: <200711230003.10477.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> <200711222139.22804.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711230003.10477.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711230710.24697.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > This is a nice little touch. Thing really are getting easier, one small > step at a time. Yes - I always thought the operating word in fstab was 'stab' :) \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 05:14:29 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:14:29 +0200 Subject: display crash In-Reply-To: <1195791238.13222.5.camel@arthur-desktop> References: <1195791238.13222.5.camel@arthur-desktop> Message-ID: <200711230714.29839.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > am able to log on legibly in fail safe mode in konsole. Can anyone give > me instructions on how to either fix my monitor display or copy the > files that I need onto a USB memory stick? Many Thanks. Arthur, I'm sure someone with ATI experience will chime-in, but you can try this. When you boot, wait a while and then try switching to a text login by pressing ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3. F7 = gui) You should be able to login and fiddle about. The display is controlled in /etc/X11 under xorg.conf, but that's a hard pill to swallow. You can try: [sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg] which (in times before Gutsy when I used it last) would bring up a wizard of sorts to help you edit that file. You can try set it to a generic (non ATI) driver just to get the ball rolling. HTH \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 05:17:50 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:17:50 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711230717.50481.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I got rid of the applet too, but I'm still stuck with my wife's little > yappy dog. > -- Heh. Not that I advocate misogyny, but as far as little dogs go, Tom Waits has an answer (of sorts): "One night Frank was on his way home from work, stopped at the liquor store, picked up a couple Mickey's Big Mouths drank 'em in the car on his way to the Shell station, he got a gallon of gas in a can, drove home, doused everything in the house, torched it, parked across the street, laughing, watching it burn, all Halloween orange and chimney red then Frank put on a top forty station got on the Hollywood Freeway headed north Never could stand that dog." http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/tom_waits/franks_wild_years_for_frankie_z.html \d From flaflashr at hotmail.com Fri Nov 23 07:26:22 2007 From: flaflashr at hotmail.com (Florida Flasher) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:26:22 -0500 Subject: Why can't connect to public wifi? Why only 1 wifi net profile Message-ID: I am running Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 on a Dell Latitude with its internal Wifi card. Using Network Settings - System Settings, I have it configured at home for my Wifi A/P with the ESSID set and the WEP key set. This works fine everytime. The problem is when I go to a place that has an open access network, such as my computer club, or the hospital, etc. It will NOT connect to the open A/P at these locations. Even if I change the configuration to the different ESSID, and remove the WEP key, it will still not connect. 1) Why will it not connect? This is really a pain, since I have to re-enter the hex key when I return home. It seems like there should be a way to keep two configuration profiles, perhaps using the Network Profiles tab, but when I then go to the Network Interfaces tab, there is only one. 2) Why can I not have more than 1 Network Interface associated with different Network Profiles? Thanks, Jim _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 23 09:49:13 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:49:13 +0100 Subject: Why can't connect to public wifi? Why only 1 wifi net profile In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711231049.13915.kassube@gmx.net> Florida Flasher wrote: > I am running Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 on a Dell Latitude with its > internal Wifi card. Using Network Settings - System Settings, I have > it configured at home for my Wifi A/P with the ESSID set and the WEP > key set. This works fine everytime. > > The problem is when I go to a place that has an open access network, > such as my computer club, or the hospital, etc. It will NOT connect to > the open A/P at these locations. Even if I change the configuration to > the different ESSID, and remove the WEP key, it will still not connect. > > 1) Why will it not connect? > > This is really a pain, since I have to re-enter the hex key when I > return home. It seems like there should be a way to keep two > configuration profiles, perhaps using the Network Profiles tab, but > when I then go to the Network Interfaces tab, there is only one. > > 2) Why can I not have more than 1 Network Interface associated with > different Network Profiles? Sorry, I can't answer your questions about network profiles because I am not familiar with network settings. I suggest you try Knetworkmanager instead. Then you can configure several wifi networks and Knetworkmanager selects the one available. Install package knetworkmanager if necessary. Then go to K-menu -> Internet -> KNetworkmanager. It will install in the system tray. Right click on the icon and select "Connect to Other Wireless Network...". Then setup the connection for your present location. Use the same procedure at your next location. You don't have to select any network profiles when you return to the first location - Knetworkmanager connects to the network available. Nils From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 10:48:39 2007 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:48:39 +0100 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? Message-ID: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> Esteemed members of the Kubuntu user group Several comments that came in after my recent mail on Thunderbird pointed on the possibility to update software from the 'Kubuntu' or 'Ubuntu' 7.10 'repository' by means of the regular 'update manager': not only for Thunderbird, but also for other software updates. I understood this would be a way to update without endangering the system stability. To such an system stability approach I attach much importance. I understood also that the Thunderbird update that is available in the repository, is 2.0.0.8 at present. One or two times I did find somewhere and somehow an 'update manager'. However, I do not always manage to find it when I'm looking for it :-). Moreover, I am not convinced that I already CORRECTLY used it, because I still have version 2.0.0.6 on my laptop, although I did one or two times something with that update manager :-). I can work with TB 2.0.0.6, version now, having successfully installed all the dictionaries I need. However, once some newer version is available in the repository, it could be useful to download and install it correctly. The same applies, of course, for other software. My question now is: where/ how can I find this 'update manager' when I need it? Moreover, once I will find it: how can I correctly download AND install such updates? If replies come in to this question, I will be able to review and answer them after this weekend. Have a good Full Moon weekend all of you! Respectfully Yours, Bas. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. Skype: BasRoufs Google Talk: BasRoufs Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human ************************** From bach.michael at gmx.net Fri Nov 23 11:32:07 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:32:07 +0100 Subject: display crash In-Reply-To: <200711230714.29839.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <1195791238.13222.5.camel@arthur-desktop> <200711230714.29839.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4746BA37.8030602@gmx.net> Donn wrote: >> am able to log on legibly in fail safe mode in konsole. Can anyone give >> me instructions on how to either fix my monitor display or copy the >> files that I need onto a USB memory stick? Many Thanks. > Arthur, > I'm sure someone with ATI experience will chime-in, but you can try this. > When you boot, wait a while and then try switching to a text login by pressing > ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2, F3. F7 = gui) > You should be able to login and fiddle about. > > The display is controlled in /etc/X11 under xorg.conf, but that's a hard pill > to swallow. You can try: [sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg] which (in times > before Gutsy when I used it last) would bring up a wizard of sorts to help > you edit that file. You can try set it to a generic (non ATI) driver just to > get the ball rolling. > > I second this! The above procedure ([sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg]) reproduces the automatic creation of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf with autodetected hardware. Give it a try. Mike From philbieber at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 11:47:15 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:47:15 +0100 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> References: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0711230347y6b95677alfa34f0064ef095e2@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 23, 2007 11:48 AM, Bas Roufs wrote: > Esteemed members of the Kubuntu user group > > Several comments that came in after my recent mail on Thunderbird > pointed on the possibility to update software from the 'Kubuntu' or > 'Ubuntu' 7.10 'repository' by means of the regular 'update manager': not > only for Thunderbird, but also for other software updates. I understood > this would be a way to update without endangering the system stability. > To such an system stability approach I attach much importance. I > understood also that the Thunderbird update that is available in the > repository, is 2.0.0.8 at present. One or two times I did find somewhere > and somehow an 'update manager'. However, I do not always manage to find > it when I'm looking for it :-). Moreover, I am not convinced that I > already CORRECTLY used it, because I still have version 2.0.0.6 on my > laptop, although I did one or two times something with that update > manager :-). I can work with TB 2.0.0.6, version now, having > successfully installed all the dictionaries I need. However, once some > newer version is available in the repository, it could be useful to > download and install it correctly. The same applies, of course, for > other software. > > My question now is: where/ how can I find this 'update manager' when I > need it? Moreover, once I will find it: how can I correctly download > AND install such updates? > > If replies come in to this question, I will be able to review and answer > them after this weekend. Have a good Full Moon weekend all of you! > > Respectfully Yours, > > Bas. > > -- > ************************* > Viaconsensus > Bas G. Roufs M.A. > Van 't Hoffstraat 1 > NL-3514 VT Utrecht > E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com > M.: +31.6.446.835.10. > T.: +31.30.785.20.40. > Skype: BasRoufs > Google Talk: BasRoufs > Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human > ************************** > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi Bas, the update-manager is a system tool keep you system up to date without the need to go to the command line. KUbuntu usually announces updates in the lower right notification area. If this is not the case, you can use Adept Manager. In Adept, there is a button to reload the current packages in the repositories and a button label "Mark Updates" and the apply the changes. You will find Adept in the K Menue -> System Tools I'm not too firm with the correct wording right now, as I don't have KUbuntu anymore... If you have further questions, don't hesitate to ask them! You, too, have a good weekend! Cheers Philipp Bieber -- Are there any experienced suicide bombers? You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me. GPG KEY ID: 7C26EE5B0185E301 FINGERPRINT: CA81 28C2 E63F DAF8 5ED4 DACB 7C26 EE5B 0185 E301 From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 12:01:13 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:01:13 -0500 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please In-Reply-To: <200711230003.10477.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> <200711222139.22804.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711230003.10477.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711230701.13429.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 12:03:10 am D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > No problem. I remember my RH 6.1 days. Had to edit virtually every file > > by hand to get a lot of things to work. nowdays I like to take it easy > > and find a GUI solution. > > I wonder how long this has existed. Not only is this easier for Billie, > but it's easier for the people trying to help too. > > This is a nice little touch. Thing really are getting easier, one small > step at a time. IIRC it was either Mandrake 8.0 or SuSE 7.2 is where I first came in contact with using the control panel to mount partitions. -- David M. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 12:10:02 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:10:02 +0200 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> References: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711231410.03075.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Bas, > Several comments that came in after my recent mail on Thunderbird > pointed on the possibility to update software from the 'Kubuntu' or > 'Ubuntu' 7.10 'repository' by means of the regular 'update manager': not > only for Thunderbird, but also for other software updates. Yes, but the irony is that *only* the packages you have got currently installed will update. If you don't have TB (installed via the manager) then it will think you don't have it installed and will *not* ask you if you want it. You can always query Adept manually and keep an eye open for the right version of TB and then manually install it when you are happy - from that point on it will be "part of the system". Nutshell: Self installed software is invisible to the update system. > repository, is 2.0.0.8 at present. One or two times I did find somewhere > and somehow an 'update manager'. However, I do not always manage to find > it when I'm looking for it :-). Adept *should* put a little icon in your tray which will show when there are updates. It's a matter of click, enter password, wait for the updates, answer a question or two and then wait some more :) If it's not showing up it might not have been set to run (or there just might not be any updates!) -- it's called "adept_notifier" and I confess that I have no idea how to get it started -- it *should* have been setup when you installed Kubuntu. You can open a konsole and do the following voodoo to see if it's running: ps ax | grep adept_notifier If you see something like this [5807 ? S 0:10 adept_notifier] then you do have it working, just wait for an update. If not, then ask again on the list - I'm sure someone with a brain larger than mine will help :) > My question now is: where/ how can I find this 'update manager' when I > need it? Moreover, once I will find it: how can I correctly download > AND install such updates? In general, I think, the thing you want is called "Adept". Go to K->System->Adept Manager to start it. HTH (Your esteemed list member :) ) \d From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 12:07:58 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:07:58 -0500 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711221958.10366.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221950.48230.technowizard@gmx.net> <200711221958.10366.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711230707.58204.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 22 November 2007 7:58:10 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2007 1:50:47 pm Jan Michelsburg wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 22 November 2007 19:13:13 schrieb Martin Laberge: > > > On November 22, 2007 11:53:11 Donn wrote: > > > > Or, as my gran says, "Tanks!" To which the proper response is > > > > "Reservoir!" > > > > > > > > :) > > > > : > > > > > > Bedankt! (Dutch) > > > > > > Grazie! (Italian) > > > > > > > > > > Molte grazie > > > > > Grazie mille (Italian alternate forms :) ) > > > > > Choukran (Arabic) > > > > > > > > > > >> Baie dankie (Afrikaans) > > > > > >> Enkosi kakhulu (Xhosa) > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Vielen Dank! ;) (ger) > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>>>> Muchas gracias > > > > > >>>>>> Muito obrigado > > > > > >>>>>> Merci beaucoup > > > > > >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Большое спасибо (Bolshoe spasibo) (Rus) > > > > > > Merci beaucoup! (Francais/French) > > > > tack så mycket! (Swedish) > > I don't care! (American) ;-) Well I tried. I was expecting someone to yell at me in a different language. :-) -- Cold hands, no gloves. From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 12:14:33 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:14:33 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711230714.33248.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 12:06:30 am D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2007, Donn wrote: > > > > That sounds like the apllet "run away process catch" You just need to > > > > Hell, I remember trying that thing. It's the 0.00001 Kg little nervous > > yapping dog applet that won't stop and jumps at it's own shadow. Man did > > I ever kick it out of the top floor window faster than I could yell > > "Catch!" > > I got rid of the applet too, but I'm still stuck with my wife's little > yappy dog. Just be glad it's not your wife that is the yappy one. -- David M. "Elves and Dragons!" I says to him. "Cabbages and potatoes are better for you and me." -- J. R. R. Tolkien From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 12:17:26 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:17:26 +0200 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711230707.58204.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711221958.10366.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711230707.58204.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711231417.26638.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > I don't care! (American) ;-) > Well I tried. I was expecting someone to yell at me in a different > language. :-) We don't care :D \d From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 12:27:45 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:27:45 -0500 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <200711231410.03075.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> <200711231410.03075.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711230727.45270.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 7:10:02 am Donn wrote: > If it's not showing up it might not have been set to run (or there just > might not be any updates!) -- it's called "adept_notifier" and I confess > that I have no idea how to get it started -- it *should* have been setup > when you installed Kubuntu. Just type: adept_notifier in console to get it started. -- David M. Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits. -- Mark Twain From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 12:37:08 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:37:08 +0200 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <200711230727.45270.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> <200711231410.03075.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230727.45270.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711231437.08334.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Just type: adept_notifier in console to get it started. Duh! I had a Homer moment. \d From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 12:41:21 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:41:21 -0500 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711231417.26638.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711230707.58204.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711231417.26638.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711230741.22124.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 7:17:26 am Donn wrote: > > > I don't care! (American) ;-) > > > > Well I tried. I was expecting someone to yell at me in a different > > language. :-) > > We don't care :D At least say it in another language. :-) -- David M. From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 23 12:47:10 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:47:10 -0600 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 Message-ID: Hi! can anyone point me to the right resource here, on how to configure my dell wireless 1350 Wlan PC card model Wl611GD on my thinkpad T21 I've this BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller. i've done every possible thing I can think of but to no success, if anyone has encounter the same delima please let me know how u managed it. if this might help i've kubuntu gusty 7.10 and it's running great so far. However I did encounter the screen resolution prob but took care of it already by reconfiguring the xserver-xorg. just in case anyone reading this mail might have the same prob. thanks if advance guys! "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" From lacsilva at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 13:02:34 2007 From: lacsilva at gmail.com (SILVA Luis) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:02:34 +0100 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> References: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711231402.34971.lacsilva@ipgp.jussieu.fr> On Friday, 23 de November de 2007 11:48, Bas Roufs wrote: > Esteemed members of the Kubuntu user group > > Several comments that came in after my recent mail on Thunderbird > pointed on the possibility to update software from the 'Kubuntu' or > 'Ubuntu' 7.10 'repository' by means of the regular 'update manager': not > only for Thunderbird, but also for other software updates. I understood > this would be a way to update without endangering the system stability. > To such an system stability approach I attach much importance. I > understood also that the Thunderbird update that is available in the > repository, is 2.0.0.8 at present. One or two times I did find somewhere > and somehow an 'update manager'. However, I do not always manage to find > it when I'm looking for it :-). Moreover, I am not convinced that I > already CORRECTLY used it, because I still have version 2.0.0.6 on my > laptop, although I did one or two times something with that update > manager :-). I can work with TB 2.0.0.6, version now, having > successfully installed all the dictionaries I need. However, once some > newer version is available in the repository, it could be useful to > download and install it correctly. The same applies, of course, for > other software. > > My question now is: where/ how can I find this 'update manager' when I > need it? Moreover, once I will find it: how can I correctly download > AND install such updates? Ok! Back to basics! Nearly all linux distributions keep or link to an up-to-date and stable repository of all the software they distribute. Think of it as all the content in your installation CD and much more being continuously kept up to date and in shape in the net for users to download and install. Ubuntu has such a repository and is accessible through a few tools. I personally like "adept-manager" you can find it in the K-menu or even simpler, through katapult (it comes installed by default in Gutsy). Just type Alt+space and start typing the name. There will be then a pop-up asking you for your password. Do it. After that you get to a program that lists all the software available in the pre-configured repositories including all the software that you have installed from the installation cd. It WILL NOT show software you installed by hand by downloading and compiling. All installations are done automatically after download with all the dependencies resolved by the program, so no need to worry about that. There is a help menu available but I think the interface is pretty intuitive. The usual way of doing things is to dig for information on he net. If you want to understand what you are doing in this case, start searching for "deb packages". Good luck Luis > > If replies come in to this question, I will be able to review and answer > them after this weekend. Have a good Full Moon weekend all of you! > > Respectfully Yours, > > Bas. > > -- > ************************* > Viaconsensus > Bas G. Roufs M.A. > Van 't Hoffstraat 1 > NL-3514 VT Utrecht > E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com > M.: +31.6.446.835.10. > T.: +31.30.785.20.40. > Skype: BasRoufs > Google Talk: BasRoufs > Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human > ************************** From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 13:16:30 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:16:30 +0200 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711230741.22124.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711231417.26638.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230741.22124.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711231516.30769.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > > We don't care :D > At least say it in another language. :-) I did -- I used "American" ;) \d From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 23 13:31:10 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:31:10 -0500 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711230831.10876.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 7:47:10 am ndemalia armstrong wrote: > Hi! can anyone point me to the right resource here, on how to configure my > dell wireless 1350 Wlan PC card model Wl611GD on my thinkpad T21 I've this > BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller. i've done every possible thing I > can think of but to no success, if anyone has encounter the same delima > please let me know how u managed it. if this might help i've kubuntu gusty > 7.10 and it's running great so far. However I did encounter the screen > resolution prob but took care of it already by reconfiguring the > xserver-xorg. just in case anyone reading this mail might have the same > prob. thanks if advance guys! > > > "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" The BCM43xx driver suplied with kubuntu never worked for me. I have always blacklisted it and installed ndiswrapper and used my own driver. -- David M. Q: How can you tell when a Burroughs salesman is lying? A: When his lips move. From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 23 13:40:14 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:40:14 -0600 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 In-Reply-To: <200711230831.10876.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711230831.10876.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: thanks Dave for ur prompt response, i already have that installed (ndiswrapper) does this mean that i can install the original driver for the card? can u suggest any? and how to install thanks! Dave. "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" ---------------------------------------- > From: d.mcglone at att.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:31:10 -0500 > > On Friday 23 November 2007 7:47:10 am ndemalia armstrong wrote: >> Hi! can anyone point me to the right resource here, on how to configure my >> dell wireless 1350 Wlan PC card model Wl611GD on my thinkpad T21 I've this >> BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller. i've done every possible thing I >> can think of but to no success, if anyone has encounter the same delima >> please let me know how u managed it. if this might help i've kubuntu gusty >> 7.10 and it's running great so far. However I did encounter the screen >> resolution prob but took care of it already by reconfiguring the >> xserver-xorg. just in case anyone reading this mail might have the same >> prob. thanks if advance guys! >> >> >> "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" > > The BCM43xx driver suplied with kubuntu never worked for me. I have always > blacklisted it and installed ndiswrapper and used my own driver. > > -- > David M. > > Q: How can you tell when a Burroughs salesman is lying? > A: When his lips move. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com Fri Nov 23 15:19:06 2007 From: "aec$news" at candt.waitrose.com (ac) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:19:06 +0000 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> References: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bas Roufs wrote: > Esteemed members of the Kubuntu user group > > Several comments that came in after my recent mail on Thunderbird > pointed on the possibility to update software from the 'Kubuntu' or > 'Ubuntu' 7.10 'repository' by means of the regular 'update manager': not > only for Thunderbird, but also for other software updates. I understood > this would be a way to update without endangering the system stability. > To such an system stability approach I attach much importance. I > understood also that the Thunderbird update that is available in the > repository, is 2.0.0.8 at present. One or two times I did find somewhere > and somehow an 'update manager'. However, I do not always manage to find > it when I'm looking for it :-). Moreover, I am not convinced that I > already CORRECTLY used it, because I still have version 2.0.0.6 on my > laptop, although I did one or two times something with that update > manager :-). I can work with TB 2.0.0.6, version now, having > successfully installed all the dictionaries I need. However, once some > newer version is available in the repository, it could be useful to > download and install it correctly. The same applies, of course, for > other software. > > My question now is: where/ how can I find this 'update manager' when I > need it? Moreover, once I will find it: how can I correctly download > AND install such updates? > > If replies come in to this question, I will be able to review and answer > them after this weekend. Have a good Full Moon weekend all of you! Welcome! Hi Bas If an application such as Thunderbird has been installed by using the built in facilities such as Kmenu> Add/Remove Programs or Kmenu>System>Adept Manager(Manage Packages) then the updates will be offered regularly to you automatically. Note that such applications will be those from the repositories, and sometimes are not always the absolutely very latest version, but they are checked ok to work. -- ac From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 15:51:21 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:51:21 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711230714.33248.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711230714.33248.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <880dece00711230751u6b2888edp2def86134d047740@mail.gmail.com> On 23/11/2007, David McGlone wrote: > Just be glad it's not your wife that is the yappy one. > Yes, dogs die faster, and the process is not so difficult to accelerate. Less illegal, as well. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 16:37:09 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:37:09 -0400 Subject: Editing fstab - Some guidance please References: <4745D89B.2050009@swbell.net> <47463190.9020609@swbell.net> <200711222139.22804.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711230003.10477.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <1323065.dd5Y3qxGsC@cedar.serverforest.com> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: >> No problem. I remember my RH 6.1 days. Had to edit virtually every file >> by hand to get a lot of things to work. nowdays I like to take it easy >> and find a GUI solution. > > I wonder how long this has existed. Not only is this easier for Billie, > but it's easier for the people trying to help too. I don't know, but it was one of the things I discovered a year or so ago, when people kept suggesting something was in System Settings, and I'd say "I don't have one of those...", then somebody mentioned the "Advanced" tab - and I saw the tab for the first time! In my defence, my System Settings really were screwed up, and I could click on some icons and get an error message, but still... > This is a nice little touch. Thing really are getting easier, one small > step at a time. Yeah. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 16:45:59 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:45:59 -0400 Subject: Why can't connect to public wifi? Why only 1 wifi net profile References: <200711231049.13915.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3459333.lKt4V706KT@cedar.serverforest.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Florida Flasher wrote: > > Sorry, I can't answer your questions about network profiles because I am > not familiar with network settings. I suggest you try Knetworkmanager > instead. Then you can configure several wifi networks and Knetworkmanager > selects the one available. > > Install package knetworkmanager if necessary. Then go to K-menu -> > Internet -> KNetworkmanager. It will install in the system tray. Right > click on the icon and select "Connect to Other Wireless Network...". Except that it won't because he's used "network settings" - which writes to /etc/network/interfaces. Make sure /etc/network/interfaces contains _nothing_ to configure that wireless interface. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 16:42:15 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:42:15 -0400 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711230717.50481.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> I got rid of the applet too, but I'm still stuck with my wife's little >> yappy dog. > > Not that I advocate misogyny, but as far as little dogs go, Tom Waits has > an answer (of sorts): > "One night Frank was on his way home > from work, stopped at the liquor store, > picked up a couple Mickey's Big Mouths > drank 'em in the car on his way > to the Shell station, he got a gallon of > gas in a can, drove home, doused > everything in the house, torched it, > parked across the street, laughing, > watching it burn, all Halloween > orange and chimney red then > Frank put on a top forty station > got on the Hollywood Freeway > headed north > Never could stand that dog." I'm never going to understand how a guy who can write that could have written "The Brier and the Rose"... For a less drastic solution, try obedience classes. Most yappy dogs can be trained out of it. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 16:51:41 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:51:41 -0400 Subject: (New to Linux/ Ubuntu) "Update manager": how to find it and work with it in Kubuntu? References: <4746B007.8010507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1410025.eDvdqIMV5a@cedar.serverforest.com> Bas Roufs wrote: > Esteemed members of the Kubuntu user group !! First you thank us for our help, and now we're "esteemed". You definitely win the prize for most polite new user! > Several comments that came in after my recent mail on Thunderbird > pointed on the possibility to update software from the 'Kubuntu' or > 'Ubuntu' 7.10 'repository' by means of the regular 'update manager': not > only for Thunderbird, but also for other software updates. I understood > this would be a way to update without endangering the system stability. > To such an system stability approach I attach much importance. I > understood also that the Thunderbird update that is available in the > repository, is 2.0.0.8 at present. One or two times I did find somewhere > and somehow an 'update manager'. However, I do not always manage to find > it when I'm looking for it :-). In the K menu, "System", it's called Adept Manager and/or Manage Packages (depending whether your menu is set to display program names or descriptions). > Moreover, I am not convinced that I > already CORRECTLY used it, because I still have version 2.0.0.6 on my > laptop, although I did one or two times something with that update > manager :-). Somebody said the T-bird "About" was showing 2.0.0.6 but the real version was 2.0.0.8 - use aptitude or Adept to show what version you actually have installed according to Ubuntu. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 16:54:07 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:54:07 -0400 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 References: Message-ID: <2418990.XN86DmijBk@cedar.serverforest.com> ndemalia armstrong wrote: > > Hi! can anyone point me to the right resource here, on how to configure my > dell wireless 1350 Wlan PC card model Wl611GD on my thinkpad T21 I've this > BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller. i've done every possible thing > I can think of but to no success, if anyone has encounter the same delima > please let me know how u managed it. if this might help i've kubuntu gusty > 7.10 and it's running great so far. Ndiswrapper, and the Windows drivers... (Odd - my HP _also_ has a Dell wireless NIC - are they actually buying these from Dell?) -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 17:38:29 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:38:29 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711230717.50481.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <880dece00711230938t18a8ce10p67a39c7041061db5@mail.gmail.com> On 23/11/2007, Derek Broughton wrote: > Donn wrote: > > >> I got rid of the applet too, but I'm still stuck with my wife's little > >> yappy dog. > > > > Not that I advocate misogyny, but as far as little dogs go, Tom Waits has > > an answer (of sorts): > > "One night Frank was on his way home > > from work, stopped at the liquor store, > > picked up a couple Mickey's Big Mouths > > drank 'em in the car on his way > > to the Shell station, he got a gallon of > > gas in a can, drove home, doused > > everything in the house, torched it, > > parked across the street, laughing, > > watching it burn, all Halloween > > orange and chimney red then > > Frank put on a top forty station > > got on the Hollywood Freeway > > headed north > > Never could stand that dog." > > I'm never going to understand how a guy who can write that could have > written "The Brier and the Rose"... > > For a less drastic solution, try obedience classes. Most yappy dogs can be > trained out of it. Or cyanide. Or backing up without looking. Seriously, though, if the dog is otherwise well trained, he should be able to shut up on command easily. Whenever he yelps, hold his mouth shut with one hand and say firmly "quiet". If you can catch the mouth in a startling manner then this will work quicker. I always allow Gili, out otherwise very obidient mutt, to bark as she does so infrequently. When we were at the mother in law's place, I had her shutting up on command within a few hours. Or simply try KDogControl -> Options -> Sounds and uncheck all that apply (barking, yelping, whining, begging, growling). Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 17:55:00 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:55:00 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <880dece00711230938t18a8ce10p67a39c7041061db5@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00711230938t18a8ce10p67a39c7041061db5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711231955.00238.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Or simply try KDogControl -> Options -> Sounds and uncheck all that > apply (barking, yelping, whining, begging, growling). Ha! Or simply "aptitude purge yappity-dawg". Failing which, reach for the rm -fr Oohhh - Gnu jokes season is open :D \d From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 23 17:54:41 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:54:41 -0600 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 In-Reply-To: <2418990.XN86DmijBk@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <2418990.XN86DmijBk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: Derek! i don't think i understand fully well what u intended to say, i don't know if this a guestion or just a comment....LOL, anyway I used the installer to install ndiswrapper and it associates i also have the driver for the card and i do have wine install too, however can't seem to install the driver for this wireless card any idea on how to install this drive? thanks Armstrong. "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" ---------------------------------------- > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > From: news at pointerstop.ca > Subject: Re: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:54:07 -0400 > > ndemalia armstrong wrote: > >> >> Hi! can anyone point me to the right resource here, on how to configure my >> dell wireless 1350 Wlan PC card model Wl611GD on my thinkpad T21 I've this >> BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller. i've done every possible thing >> I can think of but to no success, if anyone has encounter the same delima >> please let me know how u managed it. if this might help i've kubuntu gusty >> 7.10 and it's running great so far. > > Ndiswrapper, and the Windows drivers... (Odd - my HP _also_ has a Dell > wireless NIC - are they actually buying these from Dell?) > -- > derek > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 18:07:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:07:13 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230717.50481.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711232007.13450.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I'm never going to understand how a guy who can write that could have > written "The Brier and the Rose"... He's an actor and shifts characters in all his stuff, whether musical or no. Frank's Wild Years is like that. Imho. The lyrics are not a reflection of an artist's character on any 1:1 basis. It's art baby! \d From spwhite at freesurf.ch Fri Nov 23 19:03:14 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:03:14 +0100 Subject: display crash In-Reply-To: <4746BA37.8030602@gmx.net> References: <1195791238.13222.5.camel@arthur-desktop> <200711230714.29839.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <4746BA37.8030602@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711232003.14300.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Friday 23 November 2007 12:32, Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > Donn wrote: > >> am able to log on legibly in fail safe mode in konsole. Can anyone give > >> me instructions on how to either fix my monitor display or copy the > >> files that I need onto a USB memory stick? Many Thanks. > > (snip) First try to fix up your display as Donn and Michael suggested. *If that fails:* The command to copy files and folders is "cp" Try man cp to look up the syntax. Press space bar for next page. Type "q" to quit the man program and return to the shell. Tip: you have to solve the other problems first. Then the problem is to find where your files or the folder that contains them resides. You can navigate in the directory tree with the command "cd" Try man cd to look up the syntax. (cd ..) to go up You can inspect the content of a dir with the command "ls" Try man ls to look up the syntax. Last problem is to find where the USB stick is mounted (probably under /media), so first insert it,then type "ls /media and and try to recognise the name of your USB stick. ("cd" into that and check that you recognise what is already on the stick) Now you may want to create a new folder on the stick for your "salvaged files" Use the command "mkdir" (man mkdir ;-) ) "cd" into that new directory and issue the "cp" command from there with a command that would look somewhat similar to (shell_prompt>)cp -r /home/whiper/Documents/Matthieu/autom4te.cache/ . or (shell_prompt>) cp /home/whiper/Documents/Matthieu/autom4te.cache/* ./ (what follows the "cp" is the path to the directory you want to save the content of, the "*" means all the files and the ./ means in the current directory (USB stick) Ouch, I understand why Donn and Michael gave the short answer. ;-) Although my way is very basic it is a big chunk to swallow in one meal for a beginner. Good luck Perry -- BOFH excuse #163: no "any" key on keyboard. From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 18:20:49 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:20:49 -0400 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230613.05337.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711230717.50481.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00711230938t18a8ce10p67a39c7041061db5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2489316.BprKsrdiCT@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Or simply try KDogControl -> Options -> Sounds and uncheck all that > apply (barking, yelping, whining, begging, growling). > Wow! (or, more correctly, Bow-wow!) Yet another must-have app :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 18:30:05 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:30:05 -0400 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 References: <2418990.XN86DmijBk@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <1305819.yOlGMuTNau@cedar.serverforest.com> ndemalia armstrong wrote: > Derek! i don't think i understand fully well what u intended to say, i > don't know if this a guestion or just a comment....LOL, anyway I used the > installer to install ndiswrapper and it associates i also have the driver > for the card and i do have wine install too, however can't seem to install > the driver for this wireless card any idea on how to install this drive? I don't see how you can have ndiswrapper installed, have the NIC "associate", and still have a problem. If it associates, the driver must be working. Wine isn't involved - you just use ndiswrapper to install the Windows drivers (as described in the man page). -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Fri Nov 23 18:24:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 14:24:51 -0400 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230717.50481.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <9493921.lUJGWIYPRB@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711232007.13450.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1286251.EvfurtXEQ6@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> I'm never going to understand how a guy who can write that could have >> written "The Brier and the Rose"... > He's an actor and shifts characters in all his stuff, whether musical or > no. Frank's Wild Years is like that. Imho. The lyrics are not a reflection > of an artist's character on any 1:1 basis. It's art baby! Don't get me wrong - I love Tom Waits. I just came to him from the Frank's Wild Years direction, and when I heard one of the insufferably cute "Cotters" say that Waits had written "The Brier and The Rose", I was floored. But then, when I first _saw_ him (Saturday Night Live, I think), I was surprised to find that he wasn't an 80 year old black man, either... -- derek From flaflashr at hotmail.com Fri Nov 23 20:19:33 2007 From: flaflashr at hotmail.com (Florida Flasher) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:19:33 -0500 Subject: Why can't connect to public wifi? Why only 1 wifi net profile In-Reply-To: <200711231049.13915.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711231049.13915.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Thanks, Nils, that pointed me in the right direction. I had knetworkmanager installed, but every time I displayed it, I got a "no active devices" message. After searching around the web for awhile, I finally found that this was an error experienced by some others. It seems to have to do with manually configuring the network. After that, knetworkmanager refuses to work. I deleted most of the entries in /etc/network/interfaces and rebooted. Now I was able to configure knetworkmanager with my home info. I'll have to see if it works correctly next time I visit my computer club, or other open access point. Jim ---------------------------------------- > From: kassube at gmx.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Why can't connect to public wifi? Why only 1 wifi net profile > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:49:13 +0100 > > Florida Flasher wrote: >> I am running Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 on a Dell Latitude with its >> internal Wifi card. Using Network Settings - System Settings, I have >> it configured at home for my Wifi A/P with the ESSID set and the WEP >> key set. This works fine everytime. >> >> The problem is when I go to a place that has an open access network, >> such as my computer club, or the hospital, etc. It will NOT connect to >> the open A/P at these locations. Even if I change the configuration to >> the different ESSID, and remove the WEP key, it will still not connect. >> >> 1) Why will it not connect? >> >> This is really a pain, since I have to re-enter the hex key when I >> return home. It seems like there should be a way to keep two >> configuration profiles, perhaps using the Network Profiles tab, but >> when I then go to the Network Interfaces tab, there is only one. >> >> 2) Why can I not have more than 1 Network Interface associated with >> different Network Profiles? > > Sorry, I can't answer your questions about network profiles because I am > not familiar with network settings. I suggest you try Knetworkmanager > instead. Then you can configure several wifi networks and Knetworkmanager > selects the one available. > > Install package knetworkmanager if necessary. Then go to K-menu -> > Internet -> KNetworkmanager. It will install in the system tray. Right > click on the icon and select "Connect to Other Wireless Network...". Then > setup the connection for your present location. Use the same procedure at > your next location. You don't have to select any network profiles when > you return to the first location - Knetworkmanager connects to the > network available. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Nov 23 20:32:29 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:32:29 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711230714.33248.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711230714.33248.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 23 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > I got rid of the applet too, but I'm still stuck with my wife's little > > yappy dog. > > Just be glad it's not your wife that is the yappy one. "Me and blah blah went to the blah blah and Billie said blah blah can you believe that?! Then blah blah and blah blah blah blah blah, and blah blah blah, if you can believe that, then blah blah to blah blah to blah blah in the blah blah of the blah blah for the blah blah that blah blahed the blah blah blah blah blah? Blah blah blah?! HEY! I ASKED YOU A QUESTION! YOU NEVER LISTEN TO ME!" You were saying? At least the dog shuts up if you throw it a pork chop. :) (One of these days she's going to venture further out into the wonderful world of the internet, and I'm going to get a pork chop shoved up my nose.) -- D. Michael McIntyre From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 20:39:58 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:39:58 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230006.30364.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711230714.33248.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <880dece00711231239w2868776at46921d3cb9b9d88f@mail.gmail.com> On 23/11/2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > Just be glad it's not your wife that is the yappy one. > > "Me and blah blah went to the blah blah and Billie said blah blah can you > believe that?! Then blah blah and blah blah blah blah blah, and blah blah > blah, if you can believe that, then blah blah to blah blah to blah blah in > the blah blah of the blah blah for the blah blah that blah blahed the blah > blah blah blah blah? Blah blah blah?! HEY! I ASKED YOU A QUESTION! YOU > NEVER LISTEN TO ME!" > > You were saying? > > At least the dog shuts up if you throw it a pork chop. :) > > (One of these days she's going to venture further out into the wonderful world > of the internet, and I'm going to get a pork chop shoved up my nose.) It works in the other direction as well, you know. When she's trying to get to sleep, start talking about how wonderful the CLI is, and how apt-get is so much better than any GUI. VI is so much better that [insert GUI text editor here]. When you are sure that she's not paying attention, mention that VI has inline search, then ask her which search form she prefers: inline (like firefox) or popup box (like opera). Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Fri Nov 23 21:14:48 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:14:48 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <880dece00711231239w2868776at46921d3cb9b9d88f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00711231239w2868776at46921d3cb9b9d88f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711231614.48273.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 23 November 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: > It works in the other direction as well, you know. When she's trying > to get to sleep, start talking about how wonderful the CLI is, and how > apt-get is so much better than any GUI. VI is so much better that > [insert GUI text editor here]. Sounds like you've been married for 40,000 years too. I have in fact been known to bore her to tears with this very stuff on purpose so she will become overwhelmed by what a flaming dweeb I am, and wander away with a confused look on her face. It's much quieter that way. -- D. Michael McIntyre From noelle at gmx.eu Fri Nov 23 22:25:52 2007 From: noelle at gmx.eu (Markus =?utf-8?q?N=C3=B6lle?=) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:25:52 +0100 Subject: autotext support in Kmail? Message-ID: <200711232325.52167.noelle@gmx.eu> Hallo everybody, is there a possibility to abbreviate some often used sentences in emails? For example just typing "FYI" will automatically be expanded to "for your information" by KMail editor? I did not find any option to realise this. Thanks in advance, Markus From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Nov 23 22:36:15 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:36:15 -0700 Subject: setting konq default view Message-ID: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> I know I have done this in the past, but I can't find my notes anywhere :-( In konq, how do I configure it so that whenever I use it as a file manager, I always get a tree view instead of icons? Sorry to ask such a basic question. I've looked in all the menus, and I can't find anything that suggests that it will change the default view. I tried setting the view to tree view and then saving the profile, thinking that surely that would work -- it didn't :-( From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 00:19:43 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:19:43 -0500 Subject: frozen update Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0711231619w278ddcbcy393fdde17a284179@mail.gmail.com> Tried to update to 7.10 and the update has been sitting on libbz2.1.0 all day. What do I need to do next. As you may note I am a slow newbie so please use beginners instructions. Uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anton at wilddsl.net.au Sat Nov 24 01:15:41 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:15:41 +1100 Subject: frozen update In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0711231619w278ddcbcy393fdde17a284179@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0711231619w278ddcbcy393fdde17a284179@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47477B3D.9030802@wilddsl.net.au> Hi, uriah heep wrote: > Tried to update to 7.10 and the update has been sitting on libbz2.1.0 > all day. What do I need to do next. As you may note I am a slow newbie > so please use beginners instructions. > Uriah > Have you tried cancelling and trying again ? It might be a case of just trying again later (ie. tomorrow), maybe the site where libbz2.1.0 is located can't be reached at the moment. I'm a relatively new Kubuntu 7.04 user myself, and I've done a fair few minor upgrades (not full upgrades). Adept doesn't always work 100% smoothly. It works pretty well, but sometimes there is a problem. You just need to try again. Regards, Anton. From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 01:35:09 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:35:09 -0500 Subject: frozen update In-Reply-To: <47477B3D.9030802@wilddsl.net.au> References: <69c7ddfb0711231619w278ddcbcy393fdde17a284179@mail.gmail.com> <47477B3D.9030802@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0711231735y2a4b449cj4230c9888a456edf@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 23, 2007 8:15 PM, Anton Rolls wrote: > Hi, > > uriah heep wrote: > > Tried to update to 7.10 and the update has been sitting on libbz2.1.0 > > all day. What do I need to do next. As you may note I am a slow newbie > > so please use beginners instructions. > > Uriah > > > > Have you tried cancelling and trying again ? > It might be a case of just trying again later (ie. tomorrow), > maybe the site where libbz2.1.0 is located can't be reached > at the moment. > I'm a relatively new Kubuntu 7.04 user myself, and I've done > a fair few minor upgrades (not full upgrades). > Adept doesn't always work 100% smoothly. It works pretty well, > but sometimes there is a problem. You just need to try again. > > Regards, > > Anton. > > -- > I did that once today so I will just cancel and try again tomorrow. Thanks Uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Go to console and select the profile: konqueror --profile "Detailed File Management" ("Detailed File Management" is the profile I created myself, using Konqueror's gui interface.) You can also list the available profiles: man konqueror When I look in the KDE Menu Editor, I see the command line for Konqueror is: kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing Changing the profile works: kfmclient openProfile "Detailed File Management" Regards, Anton. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 02:12:23 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:12:23 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711230714.33248.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711232112.23720.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 3:32:29 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > > I got rid of the applet too, but I'm still stuck with my wife's little > > > yappy dog. > > > > Just be glad it's not your wife that is the yappy one. > > "Me and blah blah went to the blah blah and Billie said blah blah can you > believe that?! Then blah blah and blah blah blah blah blah, and blah blah > blah, if you can believe that, then blah blah to blah blah to blah blah in > the blah blah of the blah blah for the blah blah that blah blahed the blah > blah blah blah blah? Blah blah blah?! HEY! I ASKED YOU A QUESTION! YOU > NEVER LISTEN TO ME!" > > You were saying? > > At least the dog shuts up if you throw it a pork chop. :) > > (One of these days she's going to venture further out into the wonderful > world of the internet, and I'm going to get a pork chop shoved up my nose.) This is the very reason that sometimes I am very truly glad I have a hearing aid that I can switch off. I also solved the dog problem too, I will not get one. :-) -- David M. Beauty and harmony are as necessary to you as the very breath of life. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 02:17:19 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:17:19 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <880dece00711231239w2868776at46921d3cb9b9d88f@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00711231239w2868776at46921d3cb9b9d88f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711232117.19328.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 3:39:58 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 23/11/2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > > Just be glad it's not your wife that is the yappy one. > > > > "Me and blah blah went to the blah blah and Billie said blah blah can you > > believe that?! Then blah blah and blah blah blah blah blah, and blah > > blah blah, if you can believe that, then blah blah to blah blah to blah > > blah in the blah blah of the blah blah for the blah blah that blah blahed > > the blah blah blah blah blah? Blah blah blah?! HEY! I ASKED YOU A > > QUESTION! YOU NEVER LISTEN TO ME!" > > > > You were saying? > > > > At least the dog shuts up if you throw it a pork chop. :) > > > > (One of these days she's going to venture further out into the wonderful > > world of the internet, and I'm going to get a pork chop shoved up my > > nose.) > > It works in the other direction as well, you know. When she's trying > to get to sleep, start talking about how wonderful the CLI is, and how > apt-get is so much better than any GUI. VI is so much better that > [insert GUI text editor here]. When you are sure that she's not paying > attention, mention that VI has inline search, then ask her which > search form she prefers: inline (like firefox) or popup box (like > opera). Better be careful, you might wake up one morning feeling like John Wayne Bobbit :-) -- David M. Give your very best today. Heaven knows it's little enough. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 02:27:00 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:27:00 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711231614.48273.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <880dece00711231239w2868776at46921d3cb9b9d88f@mail.gmail.com> <200711231614.48273.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711232127.00632.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 4:14:48 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > It works in the other direction as well, you know. When she's trying > > to get to sleep, start talking about how wonderful the CLI is, and how > > apt-get is so much better than any GUI. VI is so much better that > > [insert GUI text editor here]. > > Sounds like you've been married for 40,000 years too. > > I have in fact been known to bore her to tears with this very stuff on > purpose so she will become overwhelmed by what a flaming dweeb I am, and > wander away with a confused look on her face. > > It's much quieter that way. Man I wish that worked for me. For 16 years I've tried that, but within the first minute I get accused of being mean and calling people names and I swear after all these years I still forget to keep my mouth shut! LOL Here's my trick: I tell her a little 'bout something someone does and in no time she's off to dial up my mother and gossip nonstop for hours about it. It works every time. :-) -- David M. {Woah! this fortune is creepy! Why do the ones that sound like a curse always come about in discussions like this one?} You will pay for your sins. If you have already paid, please disregard this message. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 02:29:48 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:29:48 -0500 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711231516.30769.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711230741.22124.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711231516.30769.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711232129.48383.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 8:16:30 am Donn wrote: > > > We don't care :D > > > > At least say it in another language. :-) > > I did -- I used "American" ;) Chalk that one up for me. Duh! count: Don: 0 David: 1 -- David M. Q: What do you call a WASP who doesn't work for his father, isn't a lawyer, and believes in social causes? A: A failure. From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 02:34:18 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:34:18 -0500 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711232129.48383.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711231516.30769.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711232129.48383.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711232134.18831.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 9:29:48 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007 8:16:30 am Donn wrote: > > > > We don't care :D > > > > > > At least say it in another language. :-) > > > > I did -- I used "American" ;) > > Chalk that one up for me. > > Duh! count: > Don: 0 > David: 1 I thought you did have a Duh! but forgot. Here it is: > Just type: adept_notifier in console to get it started. >Duh! I had a Homer moment. So now we are officially tied. Duh! count: Don: 1 David: 1 -- Q: How many IBM types does it take to change a light bulb? A: Fifteen. One to do it, and fourteen to write document number GC7500439-0001, Multitasking Incandescent Source System Facility, of which 10% of the pages state only "This page intentionally left blank", and 20% of the definitions are of the form "A:..... consists of sequences of non-blank characters separated by blanks". From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 02:41:05 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:41:05 -0500 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 In-Reply-To: <1305819.yOlGMuTNau@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <1305819.yOlGMuTNau@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711232141.05382.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 1:30:05 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > ndemalia armstrong wrote: > > Derek! i don't think i understand fully well what u intended to say, i > > don't know if this a guestion or just a comment....LOL, anyway I used > > the installer to install ndiswrapper and it associates i also have the > > driver for the card and i do have wine install too, however can't seem to > > install the driver for this wireless card any idea on how to install > > this drive? > > I don't see how you can have ndiswrapper installed, have the > NIC "associate", and still have a problem. If it associates, the driver > must be working. I agree. Ndemalia, could you post the output of lspci for us? Also post the output of ndiswrapper -l > > Wine isn't involved - you just use ndiswrapper to install the Windows > drivers (as described in the man page). I have a hunch he may be using the wrong driver. Or he could be trying to use the driver that is installed on his windows system through wine. -- David M. Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. -- Mark Twain From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 02:46:57 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:46:57 -0500 Subject: display crash In-Reply-To: <200711232003.14300.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <1195791238.13222.5.camel@arthur-desktop> <4746BA37.8030602@gmx.net> <200711232003.14300.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200711232146.57806.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 2:03:14 pm Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007 12:32, Michael Bach (gmx) wrote: > > Donn wrote: > > >> am able to log on legibly in fail safe mode in konsole. Can anyone > > >> give me instructions on how to either fix my monitor display or copy > > >> the files that I need onto a USB memory stick? Many Thanks. > > (snip) > First try to fix up your display as Donn and Michael suggested. > > *If that fails:* > The command to copy files and folders is "cp" > Try man cp to look up the syntax. > Press space bar for next page. > Type "q" to quit the man program and return to the shell. > Tip: you have to solve the other problems first. (snip) Or usually if the xorg.conf file is changed, it will save the previous settings as xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.2 etc, etc. Just boot to a console and go to /etc/X11 and rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak and then rename xorg.conf.1 or the most recent one to xorg.conf and reboot. -- David M. You will get what you deserve. From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Nov 24 02:51:46 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:51:46 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711232127.00632.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711231614.48273.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711232127.00632.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711232151.46202.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Friday 23 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > Here's my trick: I tell her a little 'bout something someone does and in no > time she's off to dial up my mother and gossip nonstop for hours about it. > It works every time. :-) LMAO!! That's a great strategy, but she doesn't know any of the people I'm in a position to know anything about, so there's no impact from any gossip I might bring home. I'm a truck driver, and I spend most of my life completely alone. As much as I keep hoping to get rescued due to all my fame and glory in Linuxdom, I do have to admit that I like spending most of my life completely alone. I guess I'm hoping somebody will pay me to sit at home in my underwear one day, more than I'm actually hoping for an office job. (I keep hoping the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation will accept my proposal to support my development efforts on Rosegarden. Why doesn't the phone ring?) -- D. Michael McIntyre From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 03:01:52 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:01:52 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711232151.46202.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711232127.00632.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711232151.46202.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711232201.53154.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 9:51:46 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > Here's my trick: I tell her a little 'bout something someone does and in > > no time she's off to dial up my mother and gossip nonstop for hours about > > it. It works every time. :-) > > LMAO!! > > That's a great strategy, but she doesn't know any of the people I'm in a > position to know anything about, so there's no impact from any gossip I > might bring home. I usually > > I'm a truck driver, and I spend most of my life > completely alone. > > As much as I keep hoping to get rescued due to all my fame and glory in > Linuxdom, I do have to admit that I like spending most of my life > completely alone. I wish I could too. I love my kids and wife, but I also love being alone. LOL sounds bad, but I guess that's how I am. > I guess I'm hoping somebody will pay me to sit at home > in my underwear one day, more than I'm actually hoping for an office job. Do what I do, Home healthcare. It pays quite well and you work your own hours. > > (I keep hoping the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation will accept my > proposal to support my development efforts on Rosegarden. Why doesn't the > phone ring?) -- David M. Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do. Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do. -- Mark Twain From d.mcglone at att.net Sat Nov 24 03:12:19 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:12:19 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711232201.53154.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711232151.46202.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711232201.53154.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711232212.19572.d.mcglone@att.net> On Friday 23 November 2007 10:01:52 pm David McGlone wrote: > On Friday 23 November 2007 9:51:46 pm D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > > On Friday 23 November 2007, David McGlone wrote: > > > Here's my trick: I tell her a little 'bout something someone does and > > > in no time she's off to dial up my mother and gossip nonstop for hours > > > about it. It works every time. :-) > > > > LMAO!! > > > > That's a great strategy, but she doesn't know any of the people I'm in a > > position to know anything about, so there's no impact from any gossip I > > might bring home. > > I usually finish my sentences. LOL I usually get my younger brother and his girlfriend. LOL > > > > I'm a truck driver, and I spend most of my life > > > > completely alone. > > > > As much as I keep hoping to get rescued due to all my fame and glory in > > Linuxdom, I do have to admit that I like spending most of my life > > completely alone. > > I wish I could too. I love my kids and wife, but I also love being alone. > LOL sounds bad, but I guess that's how I am. > > > I guess I'm hoping somebody will pay me to sit at home > > in my underwear one day, more than I'm actually hoping for an office job. > > Do what I do, Home healthcare. It pays quite well and you work your own > hours. > > > (I keep hoping the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation will accept my > > proposal to support my development efforts on Rosegarden. Why doesn't > > the phone ring?) > > -- > David M. > > Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do. > Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do. > -- Mark Twain -- David M. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 04:13:10 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:13:10 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <1286251.EvfurtXEQ6@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711232007.13450.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1286251.EvfurtXEQ6@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711240613.10706.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Don't get me wrong - I love Tom Waits. Get in line :) > But then, when I first _saw_ him (Saturday Night Live, I think), > I was surprised to find that he wasn't an 80 year old black man, either... Heh. I was surprised that he was so small when I first saw him. I had pictured a Barry White Rob Zombie crossover with a pipe running into his larynx to pour in the crushed glass! What an amazing bloke, I tip my hat. \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 04:16:03 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:16:03 +0200 Subject: Thanks In-Reply-To: <200711232134.18831.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <4744D60D.6010202@comcast.net> <200711232129.48383.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711232134.18831.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711240616.03829.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > So now we are officially tied. > Duh! count: > Don: 1 > David: 1 > Enkosi ubawo, ndiqonda wena ngoku. In my bad Xhosa: "Thanks old man, I understand you now" :D \d From paradox.herron at bluewin.ch Sat Nov 24 06:23:19 2007 From: paradox.herron at bluewin.ch (john d. herron) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:23:19 +0100 Subject: Cannot watch web videos in Mozilla 2.0.0.8 (solved) In-Reply-To: References: <473D010F.4020906@bluewin.ch> <473EA011.5030100@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <4747C357.2020802@bluewin.ch> Jonathan, As you can see from my last message (below), I already have the plugin for FFX Flash 9 r48 (libflashplayer.so) installed. What I have done now is removed all the other (earlier) Shockwave Flash plugins, which apparently were interfering with the operation of libflashplayer.so, and... now, as if by magic, I can enjoy videos in Mozilla. Fantastic! Thank you very much for your help! jdh On 17-11-2007 Jonathan Kaye wrote: Yes, John. That would be my guess. You might try installing the latest version of the flash plugin for FFX Flash 9 r48. You can grab the tarball here: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW Just untar it and put the plugin, called libflashplayer.so where you usually put your plugins for FFx. See if it works then. Cheers, Jonathan > john d. herron wrote: > > >> Hi, Jonathan. >> Thanks for your suggestion. Typing about:plugins in the FF navigation >> bar yields... (snip) Shockwave Flash File name: libflashplayer.so >> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48 >> >> MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled >> application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes >> application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes >> >> (snip) >> >> Thanks for helping. >> jdh >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 09:34:19 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:34:19 +0100 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <47460346.6000800@stdin.me.uk> References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> <47460346.6000800@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: Yes, and if you want to know more look back at this list. I have and many others have been using Automatix for years without problems. Not that I am saying to use it if you have a better way. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 09:41:27 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:41:27 +0100 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711240613.10706.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711232007.13450.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1286251.EvfurtXEQ6@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711240613.10706.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: This list is crazy. I answered the question and thought, there I am sure that will fix his problem and that will be the end of it. But no, I look and there are 24!!! messages about this. What did I say wrong??? BTW does that dog training trick work for the wife too? Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sat Nov 24 10:30:44 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:30:44 +0000 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> <47460346.6000800@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> Knapp wrote: > Yes, and if you want to know more look back at this list. I have and many > others have been using Automatix for years without problems. Not that I am > saying to use it if you have a better way. > Douglas > > Sorry, but it really doesn't matter if it works for you and many others. It is NOT supported at all. If you use it and it breaks then there's nothing anyone can do, get out your installation CD and start again. Just because you're OK with taking that risk doesn't mean it's OK to tell others to do so. "Use at your own risk" mean you can risk it yourself, but don't risk others systems. Terence From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 12:00:17 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:00:17 +0100 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> <47460346.6000800@stdin.me.uk> <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: On Nov 24, 2007 11:30 AM, Terence Simpson wrote: > Knapp wrote: > > Yes, and if you want to know more look back at this list. I have and > many > > others have been using Automatix for years without problems. Not that I > am > > saying to use it if you have a better way. > > Douglas > > > > > Sorry, but it really doesn't matter if it works for you and many others. > It is NOT supported at all. If you use it and it breaks then there's > nothing anyone can do, get out your installation CD and start again. > Just because you're OK with taking that risk doesn't mean it's OK to > tell others to do so. "Use at your own risk" mean you can risk it > yourself, but don't risk others systems. > > Terence Really all GPL software is used at your own risk and unsupported unless you go to some company and buy support. That said, this list provides support as would the automatix list. So it is supported. Not giving advice because you feel that it is not as good as some other advice servers no one. Giving advice with the pros and cons is much better IMHO. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat Nov 24 12:39:17 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:39:17 +0100 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200711241339.17911.kassube@gmx.net> Knapp wrote: > this list provides > support as would the automatix list. So it is supported. Then, maybe you should point to the Automatix list for support when advertising for Automatix. While Automatix may be supported on the Automatix list it isn't supported here. > Not giving advice because you feel that it is not as good as some other > advice servers no one. Giving advice with the pros and cons is much > better IMHO. But you didn't tell anything about pros and cons when advertising for Automatix. Nils From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sat Nov 24 12:43:59 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 12:43:59 +0000 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> <47460346.6000800@stdin.me.uk> <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <47481C8F.90901@stdin.me.uk> Knapp wrote: > On Nov 24, 2007 11:30 AM, Terence Simpson wrote: > > >> Knapp wrote: >> >>> Yes, and if you want to know more look back at this list. I have and >>> >> many >> >>> others have been using Automatix for years without problems. Not that I >>> >> am >> >>> saying to use it if you have a better way. >>> Douglas >>> >>> >>> >> Sorry, but it really doesn't matter if it works for you and many others. >> It is NOT supported at all. If you use it and it breaks then there's >> nothing anyone can do, get out your installation CD and start again. >> Just because you're OK with taking that risk doesn't mean it's OK to >> tell others to do so. "Use at your own risk" mean you can risk it >> yourself, but don't risk others systems. >> >> Terence >> > > > Really all GPL software is used at your own risk and unsupported unless you > go to some company and buy support. That said, this list provides support as > would the automatix list. So it is supported. > Not giving advice because you feel that it is not as good as some other > advice servers no one. Giving advice with the pros and cons is much better > IMHO. > Tell that to the users whose systems were wrecked by automatix. > Douglas > > Giving no advice is better than bad advice IMHO. Terence From magick.crow at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 13:45:45 2007 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:45:45 +0100 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <200711241339.17911.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> <200711241339.17911.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: > > > this list provides > > support as would the automatix list. So it is supported. > > Then, maybe you should point to the Automatix list for support when > advertising for Automatix. While Automatix may be supported on the > Automatix list it isn't supported here. I would think you could use Google. And if you are trying to imply that I work of them or am paid in anyway by them then you are way off track and starting to sound like a Troll. > > > Not giving advice because you feel that it is not as good as some other > > advice servers no one. Giving advice with the pros and cons is much > > better IMHO. > > But you didn't tell anything about pros and cons when advertising for > Automatix. How old are you anyway? This is getting way passive aggressive. You want cons then check out this. http://ubuntuos.wordpress.com/2007/08/06/ubuntu-users-vote-in-support-of-automatix/ And http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-332926.html There are plenty of places that a person can find a fair and even account of what Automatix can and can't do. The Devs even wrote a really nice bit about there thoughts. It was not all bad. I have read that Automatix is also being debated by the Devs for inclusion in future releases and liked by more that half of the users. Can it be all bad? One more question. Have you ever known of anyone having problems with an upgrade with apt-get or the like? How about a system upgrade? Did the Ubuntu way work perfectly for all? All open source has problems and we can all file bug reports and help to make it a better system. That is what it is all about. This is free software, with all it's greatness and problems. As to Terence, have you had your system wrecked? Or is this like alligators in the NY drains? What happened? I have never seen a system wrecked but I have seen a few small problems. Was the system backed up? On second thought, I am done with this. I have been feeding the trolls again. There are lots of posts all over the net about this subject. Why waste more time? Read, learn, and help open source grow with good vibes and good work. Douglas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 14:11:52 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:11:52 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711240613.10706.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711241611.53057.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > This list is crazy. Took you a while :D > What did I say wrong??? Perhaps you said something right! > BTW does that dog training trick work for the wife too? I defer to those in the know. All a bit of fun. \d From kassube at gmx.net Sat Nov 24 14:40:47 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:40:47 +0100 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <200711241339.17911.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711241540.47527.kassube@gmx.net> Knapp wrote: > > > this list provides > > > support as would the automatix list. So it is supported. > > > > Then, maybe you should point to the Automatix list for support when > > advertising for Automatix. While Automatix may be supported on the > > Automatix list it isn't supported here. > > I would think you could use Google. Use Google for what? > And if you are trying to imply that > I work of them or am paid in anyway by them then you are way off track > and starting to sound like a Troll. I don't think advertising for a free tool implies payment in any form, so I definitely didn't want to imly that you are paid by the Automatix team. But thanks for calling me a troll. > > > Not giving advice because you feel that it is not as good as some > > > other advice servers no one. Giving advice with the pros and cons > > > is much better IMHO. > > > > But you didn't tell anything about pros and cons when advertising for > > Automatix. > > How old are you anyway? Sorry, why could my age be relevant here? > This is getting way passive aggressive. > You want cons then check out this. No, I didn't ask for cons. Its just that you wrote about giving advice with pros and cons. However in your initial mail in this thread you only advised to use Automatix without mentioning any pros or cons. I think you are participating on this list and on the ubuntu-users list long enough to know that many people had problems after using Automatix. Therefore it might have been wise to include some hint that Automatix is a bit controversial. Nils From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sat Nov 24 15:11:58 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:11:58 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711241611.53057.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711241611.53057.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711241011.58293.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Saturday 24 November 2007, Donn wrote: > All a bit of fun. And thanks to everybody who resisted the urge to step in an lecture all of us about staying focused on the topic at hand. -- D. Michael McIntyre From ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com Sat Nov 24 15:25:23 2007 From: ndemalia_78 at hotmail.com (ndemalia armstrong) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:25:23 -0600 Subject: result of lspci configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 In-Reply-To: <200711232141.05382.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <1305819.yOlGMuTNau@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711232141.05382.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: HI Derek and David here are the result of the LSPCI as requested :~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:02.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03) 00:02.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1450 (rev 03) 00:03.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556B CardBus [Tornado] (rev 20) 00:03.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem (rev 20) 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) 00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11) 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) but when I issue the ndiswrapper -l it says inffile invalid Driver just because i think i don't know how to install it since it's a windows base driver when i try to only wine picks it up... if anyone direct me on how to get this driver install i'll really be greatful, I've spend tons of hours trying to figure this out... everything is running great except for the wireless card.....thanks guys for all your inputs. ---------------------------------------- > From: d.mcglone at att.net > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:41:05 -0500 > > On Friday 23 November 2007 1:30:05 pm Derek Broughton wrote: >> ndemalia armstrong wrote: >>> Derek! i don't think i understand fully well what u intended to say, i >>> don't know if this a guestion or just a comment....LOL, anyway I used >>> the installer to install ndiswrapper and it associates i also have the >>> driver for the card and i do have wine install too, however can't seem to >>> install the driver for this wireless card any idea on how to install >>> this drive? >> >> I don't see how you can have ndiswrapper installed, have the >> NIC "associate", and still have a problem. If it associates, the driver >> must be working. > > I agree. Ndemalia, could you post the output of lspci for us? > > Also post the output of ndiswrapper -l > >> >> Wine isn't involved - you just use ndiswrapper to install the Windows >> drivers (as described in the man page). > > I have a hunch he may be using the wrong driver. Or he could be trying to use > the driver that is installed on his windows system through wine. > > > -- > David M. > > Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. > -- Mark Twain > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From arisk at spidernet.com.cy Sat Nov 24 15:46:08 2007 From: arisk at spidernet.com.cy (Aristides Kaponides) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:46:08 +0200 Subject: skype in kubuntu? Message-ID: <47484740.8080005@spidernet.com.cy> Just to stop the various discussions and suggestions ,i have successfully managed to install skype. 1.I have downloaded the file from skype url 2.Opened it with Ark 3.Installed with Adept manager. It works fine no problems at all. All the best to all. From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 16:14:50 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:14:50 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711232117.19328.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711231532.29886.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <880dece00711231239w2868776at46921d3cb9b9d88f@mail.gmail.com> <200711232117.19328.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <880dece00711240814n30fe5960rf0cb99cbab322474@mail.gmail.com> On 24/11/2007, David McGlone wrote: > > Better be careful, you might wake up one morning feeling like John Wayne > Bobbit :-) Trust me, that particular body part is something that she's long since forgotten. (I'm kidding. I said that to let the thread get out of hand. We love each other and my comments are in the name of fun, not jest.) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 16:17:05 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:17:05 +0200 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711232007.13450.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1286251.EvfurtXEQ6@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711240613.10706.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00711240817rc92180du7ca723309f2478d3@mail.gmail.com> On 24/11/2007, Knapp wrote: > This list is crazy. I answered the question and thought, there I am sure > that will fix his problem and that will be the end of it. But no, I look and > there are 24!!! messages about this. What did I say wrong??? You should head over to /. > BTW does that dog training trick work for the wife too? Where do you think it was developed and perfected? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 16:33:17 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:33:17 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <200711232151.46202.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711231614.48273.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711232127.00632.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711232151.46202.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711240833y184496bfl93709f3fbb605808@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 23, 2007 9:51 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > (I keep hoping the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation will accept my proposal > to support my development efforts on Rosegarden. Why doesn't the phone > ring?) I have no idea why Mr. Gates wouldn't want to invest in such a great project. You did tell him that it would also help support the Linux community, didn't you? Strange... Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 24 15:58:04 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:58:04 -0400 Subject: setting konq default view References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1604451.u9eNibpTWG@cedar.serverforest.com> D. R. Evans wrote: > I know I have done this in the past, but I can't find my notes anywhere > :-( > > In konq, how do I configure it so that whenever I use it as a file > manager, I always get a tree view instead of icons? > > Sorry to ask such a basic question. It's not SO basic. I used konqueror for years, continually frustrated by this, before finally asking here :-) > I've looked in all the menus, and > I can't find anything that suggests that it will change the default > view. I tried setting the view to tree view and then saving the > profile, thinking that surely that would work -- it didn't :-( I noticed :-( In the konqueror configuration: File Associations, in the "known types" box, select inode/directory, and in the Embedding tab, select Tree View (kong_treeview). Happy to pass it on... -- derek From i.malorgio at tiscali.it Sat Nov 24 17:15:33 2007 From: i.malorgio at tiscali.it (Iuri Malorgio) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:15:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: result of lspci configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 Message-ID: <32398233.1195924533366.JavaMail.root@ps20> try this howto, it's very easyhttps://help.ubuntu. com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy Tiscali Voce 8 Mega (Telefono+Adsl). Attiva entro il 29/11/07: chiami in tutta Italia e navighi SENZA LIMITI A SOLI 4,95€ AL MESE FINO AL 31/03/2008! Dal 1° aprile 2008 paghi 28,95 € al mese. http://abbonati.tiscali.it/telefono-adsl/prodotti/tc/voce8mega/ From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 17:15:54 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:15:54 -0700 Subject: setting konq default view In-Reply-To: <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> On 23/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > Hi, > > D. R. Evans wrote: > > I know I have done this in the past, but I can't find my notes anywhere :-( > > > > In konq, how do I configure it so that whenever I use it as a file > > manager, I always get a tree view instead of icons? > > > > Sorry to ask such a basic question. I've looked in all the menus, and > > I can't find anything that suggests that it will change the default > > view. I tried setting the view to tree view and then saving the > > profile, thinking that surely that would work -- it didn't :-( > Go to console and select the profile: > > konqueror --profile "Detailed File Management" > > ("Detailed File Management" is the profile I created myself, > using Konqueror's gui interface.) > > You can also list the available profiles: > > man konqueror > > When I look in the KDE Menu Editor, I see the command line > for Konqueror is: > > kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing > > Changing the profile works: > > kfmclient openProfile "Detailed File Management" > I'm sorry, but I don't understand at all what you are telling me to do. All I want to do is to set konq so that by default I see a tree view instead of those ridiculous icons. I don't see anything that even remotely tells me that in your reply :-( I can't be the only one here who hates uninformative icons when trying to manage files, and I'm sure that it must be easy to change (I know I've done it a bunch of times in the past -- I've been using KDE since 2000, so this is really embarrassing; but for some reason this time I don't seem to be able to find the right combination of functions to make the change permanent). From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 24 17:57:16 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:57:16 -0400 Subject: skype on kubuntu? References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> <200711222303.36916.technowizard@gmx.net> <47460346.6000800@stdin.me.uk> <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <1381458.51JLY4xCEK@cedar.serverforest.com> Knapp wrote: > On Nov 24, 2007 11:30 AM, Terence Simpson wrote: > > > Really all GPL software is used at your own risk and unsupported unless > you go to some company and buy support. That said, this list provides > support as would the automatix list. It might. It's still a damned bad idea to go telling people to use automatix, when the Ubuntu developers and _almost_ everybody on this list will tell you not to. > Not giving advice because you feel that it is not as good as some other > advice servers no one. Giving advice with the pros and cons is much better Telling someone to install Automatix "because it worked for me" is essentially "not giving advice". There are no pros and cons there - _every_ post I've seen suggesting automatix has conveniently left out the big con - that it may leave your system in a broken configuration. Terence, otoh, told the poster why it would be a bad idea. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Sat Nov 24 18:03:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:03:51 -0400 Subject: skype on kubuntu? References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> <200711241339.17911.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1864664.8AJHNkaiFh@cedar.serverforest.com> Knapp wrote: >> But you didn't tell anything about pros and cons when advertising for >> Automatix. > > > How old are you anyway? This is getting way passive aggressive. You're the one being childish here. > There are plenty of places that a person can find a fair and even account > of what Automatix can and can't do. The Devs even wrote a really nice bit > about there thoughts. It was not all bad. Of _course_ it's not all bad. Automatix is a _great_ idea. But it was designed (if I can use the term very loosely) poorly. Since that point, and especially since Ubuntu started warning about how bad it could be for your system, the automatix developers have tried very hard to make it into a tool that _will_ work safely with Ubuntu. > I have read that Automatix is also being debated by the Devs for inclusion > in future releases and liked by more that half of the users. Can it be all > bad? And when they get it to the point that it won't interfere with Ubuntu, I'm sure it _will_ be included. It isn't there yet. > One more question. Have you ever known of anyone having problems with > an upgrade with apt-get or the like? Of course - and _that_ isn't ubuntu-supported, either. > As to Terence, have you had your system wrecked? Or is this like > alligators in the NY drains? Childish again. > On second thought, I am done with this. Thank god. Please don't troll anymore. -- derek From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Nov 25 00:21:49 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:21:49 -0500 Subject: KDE warning that scripts are running slowly In-Reply-To: <880dece00711240814n30fe5960rf0cb99cbab322474@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711220550g2aec8f70y2888a267e9d75d31@mail.gmail.com> <200711232117.19328.d.mcglone@att.net> <880dece00711240814n30fe5960rf0cb99cbab322474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711241921.49824.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 24 November 2007 11:14:50 am Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 24/11/2007, David McGlone wrote: > > Better be careful, you might wake up one morning feeling like John Wayne > > Bobbit :-) > > Trust me, that particular body part is something that she's long since > forgotten. Whoa! Now that's deep. > > > (I'm kidding. I said that to let the thread get out of hand. We love > each other and my comments are in the name of fun, not jest.) Same here. > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred to drop the Maha- and the -atman, however, and called himself Sam. He never claimed to be a god. But then, he never claimed not to be a god. Circum- stances being what they were, neither admission could be of any benefit. Silence, though, could. It was in the days of the rains that their prayers went up, not from the fingering of knotted prayer cords or the spinning of prayer wheels, but from the great pray-machine in the monastery of Ratri, goddess of the Night. The high-frequency prayers were directed upward through the atmosphere and out beyond it, passing into that golden cloud called the Bridge of the Gods, which circles the entire world, is seen as a bronze rainbow at night and is the place where the red sun becomes orange at midday. Some of the monks doubted the orthodoxy of this prayer technique... -- Roger Zelazny, "Lord of Light" From d.mcglone at att.net Sun Nov 25 01:12:04 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 20:12:04 -0500 Subject: result of lspci configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 In-Reply-To: References: <200711232141.05382.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711242012.04978.d.mcglone@att.net> On Saturday 24 November 2007 10:25:23 am ndemalia armstrong wrote: > HI Derek and David here are the result of the LSPCI as requested > > :~$ lspci Ok. Here is what we are looking for. > Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN > Controller (rev 03) > > but when I issue the ndiswrapper -l it says inffile invalid Driver just > because i think i don't know how to install it since it's a windows base > driver when i try to only wine picks it up... if anyone direct me on how to > get this driver install i'll really be greatful, I've spend tons of hours > trying to figure this out... everything is running great except for the > wireless card.....thanks guys for all your inputs. Ok. I have a feeling this is gonna be a long, long discussion. :-) First off, if ndiswrapper says it's an invalid driver then: A: you've used ndiswrapper to install the wrong driver. B: you're using the windows driver and it's junk. I never had success with the windows driver from my windows disk. Go find it on the web, I use the one from dell's website although I own HP's. (I have the broadcom 4318 airforce one using the bcm43xx driver.) C: (this isn't likely but i'll mention it because I don't know how much you know about computers) But you may be trying to use the 64bit driver on a 386 or vise versa. D: Finally, my biggest hunch is you're system is still trying to use the broken bcm43xx driver supplied with kubuntu that _doesn't_ work. You need to blacklist it. Here is what I suggest first. 1. use ndiswrapper to uninstall the driver that you have uninstalled. 2. completely remove ndiswrapper and reboot your system. Then after you reboot, open a console and type sudo find / -name ndiswrapper*. Now remove *Everything* related to ndiswrapper _EXCEPT_ the folder /etc/ndiswrapper but make sure you remove everything _in_ the folder. Next open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add this line at the very bottom: blacklist bcm43xx. (you may not need to do this, but it's hard to diagnose problems though e-mail so I ask you to do it just to make sure it's not interfering with ndiswrapper) Now issue the command sudo rmmod bcm43xx. Now download & install the latest version of ndiswrapper. Don't use the one supplied with kubuntu. Then find your driver for your card and put it in your /home. Now go into your folder where you unpacked ndiswrapper and issue the command ndiswrapper -i ~/folder_you_put_your_driver_in/driver_name. After you do this, issue ndiswrapper -l again and it should say something like: driver name driver installed hardware present. Do all that listed and post back your results of ndiswrapper -l and lspci and we'll take it from there. -- Today is what happened to yesterday. From claydoh at midmaine.com Sun Nov 25 03:43:51 2007 From: claydoh at midmaine.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:43:51 -0500 Subject: setting konq default view In-Reply-To: <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711242243.51676.claydoh@midmaine.com> On Saturday 24 November 2007 12:15:54 pm D. R. Evans wrote: > I'm sorry, but I don't understand at all what you are telling me to > do. All I want to do is to set konq so that by default I see a tree > view instead of those ridiculous icons. I don't see anything that even > remotely tells me that in your reply :-( > > I can't be the only one here who hates uninformative icons when trying > to manage files, and I'm sure that it must be easy to change (I know > I've done it a bunch of times in the past -- I've been using KDE since > 2000, so this is really embarrassing; but for some reason this time I > don't seem to be able to find the right combination of functions to > make the change permanent). Personally, I like icons, though I do prefer to have a tree view in a 'navigation view' in Konq. To get a default tree view, open Konqueror, go to the View menu. select the view you want, plus any other view settings you like. Then go to the Settings menu, and select 'save view profile ', and save it from there. If you usually start Konq from the Kmenu's Internet section, it will open with the profile 'Web Browsing', for example. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com http://emacdogsports.com From anton at wilddsl.net.au Sun Nov 25 04:27:51 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:27:51 +1100 Subject: setting konq default view In-Reply-To: <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4748F9C7.1090904@wilddsl.net.au> Hi, D. R. Evans wrote: > On 23/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: >> Hi, >> >> D. R. Evans wrote: >>> I know I have done this in the past, but I can't find my notes anywhere :-( >>> >>> In konq, how do I configure it so that whenever I use it as a file >>> manager, I always get a tree view instead of icons? >>> >>> Sorry to ask such a basic question. I've looked in all the menus, and >>> I can't find anything that suggests that it will change the default >>> view. I tried setting the view to tree view and then saving the >>> profile, thinking that surely that would work -- it didn't :-( > >> Go to console and select the profile: >> >> konqueror --profile "Detailed File Management" >> >> ("Detailed File Management" is the profile I created myself, >> using Konqueror's gui interface.) >> >> You can also list the available profiles: >> >> man konqueror >> >> When I look in the KDE Menu Editor, I see the command line >> for Konqueror is: >> >> kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing >> >> Changing the profile works: >> >> kfmclient openProfile "Detailed File Management" >> > > I'm sorry, but I don't understand at all what you are telling me to > do. All I want to do is to set konq so that by default I see a tree > view instead of those ridiculous icons. I don't see anything that even > remotely tells me that in your reply :-( > > I can't be the only one here who hates uninformative icons when trying > to manage files, and I'm sure that it must be easy to change (I know > I've done it a bunch of times in the past -- I've been using KDE since > 2000, so this is really embarrassing; but for some reason this time I > don't seem to be able to find the right combination of functions to > make the change permanent). Ok, open Konqueror, navigate to a folder, set view to "Tree View". Now go to Settings/Configure View Profiles, enter "Tree View" as the profile name and press "Save". Now, if you open Konsole and type: konqueror --profiles you should see your new profile "Tree View" listed. If you now type: konqueror --profile "Tree View" Konqueror should pop open in tree view mode. ("Great!" you're thinking, "now it works in the console, I can make an icon.") Right-click on the K Menu start button and select "Menu Editor". Open "Internet" and click "Web Browser (Konqueror)". Change the Command line from: kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing to: kfmclient openProfile "Tree View" Save and test it in the K Menu. You can also drag your new menu item from the K Menu to the quick launch area to copy your changes there. Regards, Anton. From girardhenri at free.fr Sun Nov 25 08:15:32 2007 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:15:32 +0100 Subject: kde4 64 bits Message-ID: <47492F24.70604@free.fr> Hi :) First thanks for your good job providing kde4 debs. The 64 bits version has few important debs broken : kdebase-workspace and libqt-dev, so it's unusuable ... Can I do something meanwhile ? i mean i want to compile but there are no dev usuable. Could i compile qt4 and use it ? kind regards riri From girardhenri at free.fr Sun Nov 25 08:18:08 2007 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:18:08 +0100 Subject: kde4 debs Message-ID: <47492FC0.2040805@free.fr> sorry i forgot to precise in the previous message i am using hardy riri From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 08:28:08 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:28:08 +0200 Subject: Show notes in Kontact Message-ID: <880dece00711250028k11e55d0cj79c3f70921c8a0a2@mail.gmail.com> In the ToDo lists of Kontact I often fill in the Notes field. However, the small detail window that displays information regarding the note when clicked does not show the notes. Therefore, I must double click and open the ToDo in order to read the note. Can Kontact be configured to show the notes in the preview window? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat Nov 24 09:46:43 2007 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:46:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Setup woes Message-ID: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> Howdy folks; Got a problem. I think it's with the X-window system. Some of the programs work ok when accessed through the kde menu system, but not when typed in with the shell. Here's a typical example of the latter. xhost + Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified xhost: unable to open display ":0.0" Anyone know whats going on? Bill -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sun Nov 25 12:30:33 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:30:33 +0000 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4747FD54.7060208@stdin.me.uk> <200711241339.17911.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47496AE9.6020009@stdin.me.uk> Knapp wrote: > > As to Terence, have you had your system wrecked? Yep, and some friends have too, not to mention the number of people on #kubuntu IRC whose systems were wrecked. > Or is this like alligators > in the NY drains? Nope. > What happened? I have never seen a system wrecked but I > have seen a few small problems. Was the system backed up? > Basically killed apt and dpkg. Nothing could be installed or removed at all. > On second thought, I am done with this. I have been feeding the trolls > again. There are lots of posts all over the net about this subject. Why > waste more time? Read, learn, and help open source grow with good vibes and > good work. > Douglas > I have learnt not to use it and so have others, I have read about it and I have looked at what it does in detail. It's far too "generic" in it's source, it will most definitely NOT work for everyone and it easily breakable (that's one of the reasons it's not supported by the (K)Ubuntu community). All advocating automatix serves is to encourage others to install and possibly damage their systems, then to ask for help only to be told "Sorry, nothing we can do for you." This is not just about us saying "don't use it because *we* don't like it", we are TRYING to protect naive people from installing some potentially very dangerous software and then not being able to get any real support when it breaks. Also, as to you feeling like you're "feeding the trolls". I had the same debate as to whether I should reply to your comments in the first place, knowing that you'd reply with some twisted logic about it. (If you're wondering what I mean by "twisted logic", I'll show you: "That said, this list provides support as would the automatix list. So it is supported." ) Terence From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sun Nov 25 12:35:20 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:35:20 +0000 Subject: kde4 debs In-Reply-To: <47492FC0.2040805@free.fr> References: <47492FC0.2040805@free.fr> Message-ID: <47496C08.4060906@stdin.me.uk> Girard Henri wrote: > sorry i forgot to precise in the previous message > i am using hardy > riri > > Is this with the normal repositories or with the launchpad ppa repository? Terence From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Nov 25 12:35:51 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:35:51 -0500 Subject: kde4 install problem Message-ID: <200711250735.52239.pkaplan1@comcast.net> I'm trying to follow the posted instructions for installing kde4 and I am getting an error in adept that says installation will break something, but no further details. Using apt-get install doesn't revail any more info to me. The problem seems to be in installing kdebase-runtime. Here's the output of sudo apt-get install kdebase-runtime Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libpopt-dev libxine-dev kdepimlibs5-dev libaspell-dev libgnutlsxx13 libtasn1-3-dev libbluetooth-dev libkeyutils-dev libgpg-error-dev libjasper-dev libpcre3-dev libopencdk8-dev libnm-util-dev libsoprano-dev libgcrypt11-dev libstreams-dev libsasl2-dev kdelibs5-dev libcaptury-dev libldap2-dev libpcrecpp0 x11proto-record-dev cmake libpth-dev kde4base-data libgnutls-dev kde4multimedia-data libxslt1-dev libdbus-1-dev libcaptury0 kde4utils-data libungif4-dev libtiff4-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev libgpgme11-dev libasound2-dev kdebase-workspace-data libtiffxx0c2 kdepimlibs5 liblzo2-dev libslang2-dev libcapseo0 libopenexr-dev libavahi-common-dev network-manager-dev libcupsys2-dev libstreamanalyzer-dev kdepimlibs-data libxtst-dev libenchant-dev libcapseo-dev libbz2-dev Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime-bin kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data Suggested packages: kdebase-kde4 The following NEW packages will be installed: kde-icons-oxygen kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data 0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 33 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/57.0MB of archives. After unpacking 82.6MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y (Reading database ... 138562 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking kde-icons-oxygen (from .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/phonon-xine.png', which is also in package kde4base-data dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Unpacking kdebase-runtime-data (from .../kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/applications/kde4/knetattach.desktop', which is also in package kde4base-data dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Selecting previously deselected package kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4. Unpacking kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (from .../kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package kdebase-runtime-bin. Unpacking kdebase-runtime-bin (from .../kdebase-runtime-bin_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package kdebase-runtime. Unpacking kdebase-runtime (from .../kdebase-runtime_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-data_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) TIA Paul From donn.ingle at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 12:38:19 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:38:19 +0200 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <200711251438.19616.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Some of the programs work ok when accessed through the kde menu system, but > not when typed in with the shell. Here's a typical example of the latter. If you're trying to run stuff as root (like sudo kcontrol) then you can get that kind of error. I still don't know how to fix it really. (Short of kdesu kcontrol, but that's not really command line.) \d From stdin at stdin.me.uk Sun Nov 25 12:52:51 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:52:51 +0000 Subject: kde4 install problem In-Reply-To: <200711250735.52239.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200711250735.52239.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47497023.5020603@stdin.me.uk> Paul Kaplan wrote: > I'm trying to follow the posted instructions for installing kde4 and I am > getting an error in adept that says installation will break something, but no > further details. Using apt-get install doesn't revail any more info to me. > > The problem seems to be in installing kdebase-runtime. > > Here's the output of sudo apt-get install kdebase-runtime > > Unpacking kde-icons-oxygen > (from .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ... > dpkg: error > processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb > (--unpack): > trying to overwrite > `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/phonon-xine.png', which is > also in package kde4base-data > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > > > TIA > Paul > > It looks like the old package "kde4base-data" is not being removed like it should. Try removing that package with the command: sudo apt-get remove kde4base-data If you get more errors please post them back. Terence From kassube at gmx.net Sun Nov 25 12:52:46 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:52:46 +0100 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <200711251352.46391.kassube@gmx.net> Bill Vance wrote: > Some of the programs work ok when accessed through the kde menu system, > but not when typed in with the shell. Here's a typical example of the > latter. > > xhost + > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > xhost: unable to open display ":0.0" You are logged in as a different user (probably root) than the owner of the display ":0.0". Only the owner of the display can grant access to it. E.g. if you log in as bill and then start Konsole and enter the command sudo su to have a root shell you can't start the xhost command you mentioned above. And you shouldn't use / need it anyway because it is dangerous if your machine is accessible via network. Use kdesu instead to start a command with access to your display. Nils From lucafbb at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 12:54:45 2007 From: lucafbb at gmail.com (Luca) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:54:45 +0100 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav Message-ID: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> Hi All. I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 tracks to wav files... I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search command... From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Nov 25 13:05:18 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:05:18 -0500 Subject: kde4 install problem In-Reply-To: <47497023.5020603@stdin.me.uk> References: <200711250735.52239.pkaplan1@comcast.net> <47497023.5020603@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200711250805.18740.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Thanks. On Sunday 25 November 2007 7:52:51 am Terence Simpson wrote: > Paul Kaplan wrote: > > I'm trying to follow the posted instructions for installing kde4 and I am > > getting an error in adept that says installation will break something, > > but no further details. Using apt-get install doesn't revail any more > > info to me. > > > > The problem seems to be in installing kdebase-runtime. > > > > Here's the output of sudo apt-get install kdebase-runtime > > > > > Unpacking kde-icons-oxygen > > (from .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ... > > dpkg: error > > processing > > /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.d > >eb (--unpack): > > trying to overwrite > > `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/phonon-xine.png', which is > > also in package kde4base-data > > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) > > > > > TIA > > Paul > > It looks like the old package "kde4base-data" is not being removed like > it should. Try removing that package with the command: > sudo apt-get remove kde4base-data > > If you get more errors please post them back. > > Terence From cherryfinals at yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 13:36:14 2007 From: cherryfinals at yahoo.com (cherryfinals) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:36:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <287739.57020.qm@web58002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Audacity will do this. It's also an excellent audio editor. --- Luca wrote: > Hi All. > > I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 > tracks to wav files... > > I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search > command... > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Stan "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ From guido.dom at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 13:40:18 2007 From: guido.dom at gmail.com (guido dom) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:40:18 +0100 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> References: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This is what I use from within the directory with mp3 files # replace all spaces with _ for i in *.mp3; do mv "$i" `echo $i | tr ' ' '_'`; done # replace all capitals with normal (ie A becomes a) for i in *.[Mm][Pp]3; do mv "$i" `echo $i | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'`; done # make wav from all mp3 for i in *.mp3; do mpg123 --rate 44100 --stereo --buffer 3072 --resync -w `basename $i .mp3`.wav $i; done remove mp3 rm *.mp3 2007/11/25, Luca : > > Hi All. > > I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 > tracks to wav files... > > I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search command... > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Tel:+32 (0)58 239804 +32 (0)497 538736 Nog een mooie dag toegewenst. Guido (dompie) Dom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cherryfinals at yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 13:50:42 2007 From: cherryfinals at yahoo.com (cherryfinals) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:50:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <133300.69521.qm@web58004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I almost forgot that if you just want to make an audio CD to play in the car or home stereo system, that feature is already built in to K3B. Just select "Create Audio CD" from the opening menu and then choose the MP3 files you want on the CD. When you 'Burn' it, they will automatically be converted to wav format. Hope this helps. --- Luca wrote: > Hi All. > > I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 > tracks to wav files... > > I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search > command... > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Stan "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ From stan10x10 at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 18:45:36 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:45:36 -0500 Subject: konsole command stop adept? Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0711251045pf9e6f19mdf754cde5e91f79e@mail.gmail.com> I have seen this answer here before but can not find it. I have an iteration of adept running on boot which prevents using adept for any changes. How do I issue a command to shut it down. Uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Sun Nov 25 19:23:02 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:23:02 -0500 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711251438.19616.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711251438.19616.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711251423.02271.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 25 November 2007, Donn wrote: > If you're trying to run stuff as root (like sudo kcontrol) then you can get > that kind of error. I still don't know how to fix it really. (Short of > kdesu kcontrol, but that's not really command line.) I'm not making a statement one way or the other about what is or is not good practice. I only offer mention of the sux command: sux - wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials -- D. Michael McIntyre From Herve at lucidia.net Sun Nov 25 19:26:06 2007 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:26:06 +0100 Subject: skype in kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <47484740.8080005@spidernet.com.cy> References: <47484740.8080005@spidernet.com.cy> Message-ID: <4413284c0711251126x12c0d4a0wfd158f82ef4a5fd1@mail.gmail.com> Which version did you install? I use 2.0.0.13 (beta) and video calls work! Too bad my contact groups are gone. HTH Hervé On Nov 24, 2007 4:46 PM, Aristides Kaponides wrote: > Just to stop the various discussions and suggestions ,i have > successfully managed to install skype. > 1.I have downloaded the file from skype url > 2.Opened it with Ark > 3.Installed with Adept manager. > It works fine no problems at all. > All the best to all. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From Herve at lucidia.net Sun Nov 25 19:42:05 2007 From: Herve at lucidia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Herv=C3=A9_Fache?=) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:42:05 +0100 Subject: Konqueror in KDE 4 In-Reply-To: <200711211639.12951.cms0009@gmail.com> References: <200711211639.12951.cms0009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4413284c0711251142j9915c0cr89ccd908a0ad867@mail.gmail.com> Maybe with KDE 4.1, when Qt 4,4 is out, as the latter will provide WebKit as an HTML rendering, the one used in Safari 3 (Apple MacOS 10.5 Leopard's browser). See these for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/07/23/the-unforking-of-kdes-khtml-and-webkit HTH, Hervé On Nov 21, 2007 10:39 PM, Richard wrote: > does anyone know of if Konqueror is going to get a update in functionality , > in KDE 4 ? (compare it to: firefox beta 3 ) > > Thanks - > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From valtermura at yahoo.it Sun Nov 25 21:18:06 2007 From: valtermura at yahoo.it (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:18:06 +0100 Subject: Problem during booting Message-ID: <200711252218.06332.valtermura@yahoo.it> Hi All, I have a problem during booting. - If I choose the kernel "2.6.22-14-generic" (in grub) the booting arrives till "- checking root file system", give me an "Ok" and then it frezees. I have to unplug the comp and turn it on again. - If a choose the other available kernel "2.6.20.16-generic" the system starts regularly, I mean also in the normal graphical way. My system: Intel P IV, 768 Mb RAM, Graphic card ATI Radeon 9200 SE, two hard disk, one Windows dedicated, one Linux dedicated; Kubuntu 7.10 updated. Thanks for the suggestions, regards, -- Valter Gnupg key: 0x9A058949 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From valtermura at yahoo.it Sun Nov 25 21:18:32 2007 From: valtermura at yahoo.it (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:18:32 +0100 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> Il giovedì 15 novembre 2007 21:14:24 Tipton, Timothy ha scritto: > > Kontact (KMail is hidden inside it). > > Ahhhhhhhhh - I was unaware of this; I _know_ I have Kontact, just didn't > know Kmail was inside. > > Thank you very much, I'll check it out. > > Also, in the same spirit of email -> is Kmail a good/nice alternative to > say... Thunderbird or Evolution? What are your thoughts about it? Well, in a perfect world I would like to see Pegasus Mail in a Linux system, but I use Kmail and I'm quite satisfied. I didn't notice big differences between Kmail, Evolution and Thunderbird. The only thing I can say is that Kmail is natively conceived to work in a KDE environment. -- Valter Gnupg key: 0x9A058949 in hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com Kubuntu Linux: www.ubuntu.com Usa OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org Coltiva Linux, tanto Windows si pianta da solo. From jpatrickdavies at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 21:21:29 2007 From: jpatrickdavies at gmail.com (Jonathan Patrick Davies) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:21:29 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu Promo Artwork Message-ID: <200711252221.54384.jpatrick@kubuntu.org> Hello everyone! I'm going to do some publicity of publicity. I've set up a Kubuntu Promo Artwork repos. It can be found here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-promo To get and build the PNGs run (install 'bzr' first): bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-promo And do from the new folder: ./genall.sh If anyone knows of any other artwork which would make a good addition to the repos, feel free to drop me an email with a link and I'll upload it for others (preferably in SVG format). Or maybe you could translate into another language, just grab the -en.svg version of what you want to translate and start editing away! - I personally use Kate - and then send the translation to me for inclusion. Corrections are also welcome. Note: in order to get the accents for the Ubuntu title font, you need to have the package from Hardy. Cheers! Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stdin at stdin.me.uk Mon Nov 26 01:16:19 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:16:19 +0000 Subject: konsole command stop adept? In-Reply-To: <69c7ddfb0711251045pf9e6f19mdf754cde5e91f79e@mail.gmail.com> References: <69c7ddfb0711251045pf9e6f19mdf754cde5e91f79e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474A1E63.2010504@stdin.me.uk> uriah heep wrote: > I have seen this answer here before but can not find it. I have an > iteration of adept running on boot which prevents using adept for any > changes. How do I issue a command to shut it down. > > Uriah > > sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a From news at pointerstop.ca Sun Nov 25 21:28:17 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:28:17 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711251438.19616.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711251423.02271.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On Sunday 25 November 2007, Donn wrote: > >> If you're trying to run stuff as root (like sudo kcontrol) then you can >> get that kind of error. I still don't know how to fix it really. (Short >> of kdesu kcontrol, but that's not really command line.) Well, "kcontrol" isn't command line either, so I highly recommend using kdesu/kdesudo rather than sudo to invoke gui apps. If you're going to be doing that sort of thing... > > I'm not making a statement one way or the other about what is or is not > good practice. > > I only offer mention of the sux command: > > sux - wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials Not that I'd make a statement about good practice either :-), but it should be noted that this is a wrapper around _su_, not _sudo_, so you don't get the benefits of sudo. -- derek From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Nov 26 03:52:03 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:52:03 -0500 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711251423.02271.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711252252.03371.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> > Not that I'd make a statement about good practice either :-), but it should > be noted that this is a wrapper around _su_, not _sudo_, so you don't get > the benefits of sudo. sudo sux Not that I'm recommending this EVIL practice, because everyone who uses it will go straight to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But for the people who are already damned because they don't see things the same way as Uncle Donny (asshole) they might consider doing something like sudo sux kcontrol if they want to burn in Hell for all eternity (like Uncle Donny the asshole). -- D. Michael McIntyre From michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com Mon Nov 26 03:59:21 2007 From: michael.mcintyre at rosegardenmusic.com (D. Michael McIntyre) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:59:21 -0500 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711252252.03371.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711252252.03371.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711252259.21295.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> On Sunday 25 November 2007, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > if they want to burn in Hell for all eternity (like Uncle Donny the > asshole). NOTE TO DONNY IN SOUTH AFRICA: I'm not talking about you. Chill out. -- D. Michael McIntyre From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 04:07:16 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:07:16 +0200 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711252252.03371.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711252252.03371.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711260607.16180.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > if they want to burn in Hell for all eternity (like Uncle Donny the > asshole). :o \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 04:09:04 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:09:04 +0200 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711252259.21295.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711252252.03371.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <200711252259.21295.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <200711260609.04755.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > NOTE TO DONNY IN SOUTH AFRICA: I'm not talking about you. Chill out. :D (Phew) \d From michael.ulm at isis-papyrus.com Mon Nov 26 09:22:21 2007 From: michael.ulm at isis-papyrus.com (Michael Ulm) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:22:21 +0100 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> References: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> Luca wrote: > Hi All. > > I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 > tracks to wav files... > > I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search command... > If you have nothing against the command line I can recommend SoX. With this it is as simple as sox song.mp3 song.wav From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 10:08:44 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:08:44 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <880dece00711260208t7c3e17a9g7db8a9e563712198@mail.gmail.com> On 25/11/2007, Valter Mura wrote: > Well, in a perfect world I would like to see Pegasus Mail in a Linux system, > but I use Kmail and I'm quite satisfied. I didn't notice big differences > between Kmail, Evolution and Thunderbird. > The only thing I can say is that Kmail is natively conceived to work in a KDE > environment. > What features of Pegasus Mail do you like? Request them at bko. My major problem with Evolution and Tbird is that one cannot edit the From field on outgoing email. That is a dealbreaker for me. In Tbrid I fix it with an extension. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Mon Nov 26 10:59:09 2007 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:59:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> from "Derek Broughton" at Nov 25, 2007 05:28:17 PM Message-ID: <200711261059.CAA16584@xpresso.seaslug.org> Thanks gang, Now I don't need xhost anymore. Got another problem, though. Anyone know where KDE puts it's error messages? I tried to use Adept manager from the menu, and got a small window with, "Error - KDE su", across the top, and a panel with, "Su returned with an error", in it. unfortunately, the, "?", help button wasn't helpful about just what the error was. Bill On Sun Nov 25 13:28:17 2007 Derek Broughton wrote: >D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > >> On Sunday 25 November 2007, Donn wrote: >> >>> If you're trying to run stuff as root (like sudo kcontrol) then you can >>> get that kind of error. I still don't know how to fix it really. (Short >>> of kdesu kcontrol, but that's not really command line.) > >Well, "kcontrol" isn't command line either, so I highly recommend using >kdesu/kdesudo rather than sudo to invoke gui apps. If you're going to be >doing that sort of thing... >> >> I'm not making a statement one way or the other about what is or is not >> good practice. >> >> I only offer mention of the sux command: >> >> sux - wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials > >Not that I'd make a statement about good practice either :-), but it should >be noted that this is a wrapper around _su_, not _sudo_, so you don't get >the benefits of sudo. >-- >derek -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 11:09:59 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:09:59 +0200 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711261059.CAA16584@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <200711261059.CAA16584@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <200711261309.59902.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Anyone know where KDE puts it's error messages? Sounds like that new "Invisible pixel" (TM) technology is working! > I tried to use Adept manager from the menu, and got a small window with, "Error - KDE su", Did you just go K->System->Adept? > unfortunately, the, "?", help button wasn't helpful about just what the > error was. No, no. That button is there to *get* you puzzled. See it says "?" :D Okay, sorry for being useless -- I hope your sudo is not busted somehow. Open a konsole and try [sudo ls /] or something, just to make sure sudo is okay. \d From girardhenri at free.fr Mon Nov 26 11:52:34 2007 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:52:34 +0100 Subject: libs problem ? Message-ID: <474AB382.9050609@free.fr> Hi :) How can i get read of this lib ? i can't do anything any more... kind regards riri Dépaquetage de ia32-libs (à partir de .../ia32-libs_2.1ubuntu3_amd64.deb) ... dpkg : erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_2.1ubuntu3_amd64.deb (--unpack) : impossible de créer « ./usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2 »: No such file or directory dpkg-deb: sous-processus paste tué par le signal (Broken pipe) Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution : /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_2.1ubuntu3_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) From girardhenri at free.fr Mon Nov 26 12:01:50 2007 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:01:50 +0100 Subject: libs problem ? In-Reply-To: <474AB382.9050609@free.fr> References: <474AB382.9050609@free.fr> Message-ID: <474AB5AE.40904@free.fr> aptitude did it ! Girard Henri a écrit : > Hi :) > How can i get read of this lib ? > i can't do anything any more... > kind regards > riri > > Dépaquetage de ia32-libs (à partir de > .../ia32-libs_2.1ubuntu3_amd64.deb) ... > dpkg : erreur de traitement de > /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_2.1ubuntu3_amd64.deb (--unpack) : > impossible de créer « ./usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2 »: No such file or directory > dpkg-deb: sous-processus paste tué par le signal (Broken pipe) > Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution : > /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_2.1ubuntu3_amd64.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > From geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com Mon Nov 26 13:04:34 2007 From: geekboy at angrykeyboarder.com (Scott (angrykeyboarder)) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:04:34 -0700 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> <4745D4E2.7090400@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: Knapp spake thusly : > If that does not work for you, you can get it to work using Automatix. In the time it took someone to download and install Automatix, they could have downloaded and installed Skype. Overkill wouldn't you say? -- Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com I've never used an OS I didn't (dis)like. ©2007 angrykeyboarder™ & Elmer Fudd. All Wites Wesewved From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 26 15:00:23 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:00:23 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <200711240946.BAA13366@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711251423.02271.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711252252.03371.michael.mcintyre@rosegardenmusic.com> Message-ID: <3455680.ERzSVWnuAo@cedar.serverforest.com> D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> Not that I'd make a statement about good practice either :-), but it >> should be noted that this is a wrapper around _su_, not _sudo_, so you >> don't get the benefits of sudo. > > sudo sux > > Not that I'm recommending this EVIL practice, because everyone who uses it > will go straight to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > But for the people who are already damned because they don't see things > the same way as Uncle Donny (asshole) they might consider doing something > like ???? Somebody might want to cut down on the caffeine... > sudo sux > kcontrol Is that going to work? I don't use sux, but isn't the X authorization forwarding already broken by "sudo"? -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 26 15:02:23 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:02:23 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711261059.CAA16584@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <3723300.KfstfZIUMF@cedar.serverforest.com> Bill Vance wrote: > Thanks gang, Now I don't need xhost anymore. Got another problem, though. > > Anyone know where KDE puts it's error messages? I tried to use Adept All messages should be in one (or more) of: ~/.xsession_errors /var/log/kdm.log /var/log/Xorg.*.log (* is the display number) -- derek From paulatgm at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 16:02:56 2007 From: paulatgm at gmail.com (Paul S) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:02:56 -0500 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> References: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> Message-ID: <474AEE30.5020305@gmail.com> Michael Ulm said the following on 11/26/2007 04:22 AM: > Luca wrote: >> I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 >> tracks to wav files... Remember that mp3 to wav can result in some loss of the track, so quality suffers a bit. So, don't go back and forth more than once and save your original mp3 files, as they will be the best quality in the future, if you need them again. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 16:06:56 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:06:56 +0200 Subject: Bizarro copy Message-ID: <200711261806.56390.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Yikes, My machine just choked and I got weird dialogues saying "can't read .bash-history" skip, cancel (for e.g.). After a while I could type again and in konsole I top(ped) and ps(ed) and so forth. Found a kio_file, amarok and kmail running heavy. I killed them all and then noticed new folders on my desktop! I now have copies of almost my entire root directory on the desktop! Sheesh. I know I didn't do it cos a) I'm careful, b) I was not doing anything drag/drop or copy related. I *had* set kmail to copy a vid sent to me to the desktop -- that's the only thing I can connect to it. After a while I saw a copy progress window and brought it up. It was busy copying gigs from file://dev/dsp#att7 (Killed that sucker!) Does that dev/dsp ring any bells? I can't find any 'dsp' in /dev. \d From mailinglist at endosquid.com Mon Nov 26 22:53:27 2007 From: mailinglist at endosquid.com (Brendan) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:53:27 -0500 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> On Sunday 25 November 2007, Valter Mura wrote: > The only thing I can say is that Kmail is natively conceived to work in a > KDE environment. Half the reason I use KDE is for its File Dialog box and kio-slaves, anyway. Preview all images when I'm attaching an image for a client? Of course...in GTK apps....why would you want to preview something? From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 23:00:52 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:00:52 -0800 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: On Nov 26, 2007 2:53 PM, Brendan wrote: > On Sunday 25 November 2007, Valter Mura wrote: > > The only thing I can say is that Kmail is natively conceived to work in a > > KDE environment. > > Half the reason I use KDE is for its File Dialog box and kio-slaves, anyway. > Preview all images when I'm attaching an image for a client? Of course...in > GTK apps....why would you want to preview something? You can preview photographic mimetypes from GTK style dialogs... I agree though, GTK on the whole is just inexplicably less user-friendly when you're power using your system. KDE is much better, though it comes at the price of a higher learning curve. -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From news at pointerstop.ca Mon Nov 26 23:36:51 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:36:51 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> Message-ID: <2021994.IeLuagtHVi@cedar.serverforest.com> Chris Miller wrote: > On Nov 26, 2007 2:53 PM, Brendan wrote: >> On Sunday 25 November 2007, Valter Mura wrote: >> > The only thing I can say is that Kmail is natively conceived to work in >> > a KDE environment. >> >> Half the reason I use KDE is for its File Dialog box and kio-slaves, >> anyway. Preview all images when I'm attaching an image for a client? Of >> course...in GTK apps....why would you want to preview something? > > You can preview photographic mimetypes from GTK style dialogs... > > I agree though, GTK on the whole is just inexplicably less > user-friendly when you're power using your system. KDE is much > better, though it comes at the price of a higher learning curve. That seems wrong to me - but whenever I talk about GUIs I have to preface it with a big YMMV :-) KDE, to my mind, has a much smaller learning curve for most of us who came from Windows. That is both its strength and its weakness. -- derek From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 00:46:17 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:46:17 -0800 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <2021994.IeLuagtHVi@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <2021994.IeLuagtHVi@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: On Nov 26, 2007 3:36 PM, Derek Broughton wrote: > Chris Miller wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2007 2:53 PM, Brendan wrote: > >> On Sunday 25 November 2007, Valter Mura wrote: > >> > The only thing I can say is that Kmail is natively conceived to work in > >> > a KDE environment. > >> > >> Half the reason I use KDE is for its File Dialog box and kio-slaves, > >> anyway. Preview all images when I'm attaching an image for a client? Of > >> course...in GTK apps....why would you want to preview something? > > > > You can preview photographic mimetypes from GTK style dialogs... > > > > I agree though, GTK on the whole is just inexplicably less > > user-friendly when you're power using your system. KDE is much > > better, though it comes at the price of a higher learning curve. > > That seems wrong to me - but whenever I talk about GUIs I have to preface it > with a big YMMV :-) Now that I think about it, only certain kinds of GTK dialogs have previews. Some don't. > KDE, to my mind, has a much smaller learning curve for most of us who came > from Windows. That is both its strength and its weakness. I've got some kind of sixth-sense for GUIs, so I'm usually using new software at lightspeed (primarily because I think so fast... at other things I'm really slow, so I balance out in the end) Generally I find Gnome to be easier to use for the first time, but after time it starts to bug me. KDE was harder to learn at first, but once I already had been around the block it was more like an extension of my body it was so good. It's easier to make the complex and powerful KDE second nature than it is the make the simple and limited Gnome useful in a power-user situation. I use both, depending on what I need at that moment. I get the best of both worlds. And my HDD is only 20G, so don't tell me I'm just spoiled with a big drive. All my peers have four to five times that much storage in their laptops. -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From jerryturba at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 27 02:22:14 2007 From: jerryturba at sbcglobal.net (jerry) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:22:14 -0800 Subject: configuring dell wireless card on thinkpad T21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474B7F56.4060600@sbcglobal.net> ndemalia armstrong wrote: > Hi! can anyone point me to the right resource here, on how to configure my dell wireless 1350 Wlan PC card model Wl611GD on my thinkpad T21 > I've this BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller. i've done every possible thing I can think of but to no success, if anyone has encounter the same delima please let me know how u managed it. if this might help i've kubuntu gusty 7.10 and it's running great so far. However I did encounter the screen resolution prob but took care of it already by reconfiguring the xserver-xorg. just in case anyone reading this mail might have the same prob. > thanks if advance guys! > > > "love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy into a friend" > > I just saw your post from a few days ago. I got the bcm4306 working with Kubuntu. I hope I can help. I saw from other posts that you have ndiswrapper installed. That was step one for me. I had to remove bcm43xx; modprobe bcm43xx, eventually I also had to blacklist it to keep it from being reinstalled. I copied the window drivers to Kubuntu (bcmwl5.sys and BCMWL5.inf). ndiswrapper -l will show which drivers are installed. To install the windows driver I did sudo ndiswrapper -i path_to/BCMWL5.inf. I repeated it with the -l option to be sure it was actually installed. sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart got the card up and running. If you still have problems could you post the results of the following: iwconfig ndiswrapper -l lsmod | grep bcm* lsmod |grep ndis* Good luck. I had to try many permutations of the above to finally get it working. Jerry From jjesse at iserv.net Tue Nov 27 02:52:10 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:52:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen Message-ID: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Good evening, I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't figure out which one would be better to post to. I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of trying to deal with. I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm filling out. Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" there. -- Jonathan Jesse From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Nov 27 03:36:23 2007 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:36:23 -0600 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <474B90B7.7040500@swbell.net> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Good evening, > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > One problem is that most web pages are written specifically for IE. Microsoft, in their infinite stupidity, use proprietary tags and don't necessarily use the standard ones. The standard ones they do use are interpreted differently. > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > trying to deal with. > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm > filling out. > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > there I don't generally use Konqueror for web browsing. I did when I first started playing around with Linux a few years ago but had experiences quite like your. I've used Firefox as my primary browser for both my Windows and Linux installs from it's inception. While a lot of sites don't play well with Firefox it does seem to do a better job of interpreting pages. My suggestion is to use Firefox. Just don't try going to Microsoft web pages. They get plumb testy. From anton at wilddsl.net.au Tue Nov 27 04:05:55 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:05:55 +1100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> Hi, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Good evening, > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > trying to deal with. > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm > filling out. > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > there. Konqueror, when operating as a web-browser, is simple and underpowered compared to Firefox etc.. It sounds like the solution for you might be to install the win32 version of Firefox and install the flash plugin. Here's how I did it: 1) I got the latest version of Wine. Quite recently I went to the Wine website for the latest version, and I noticed it's a newer version than the one in Adept. I looked at the change history between the versions and saw all just bug fixes. So I installed the newer version. (I think I added the Wine website to my package sources list and then used Adept...?) 2) I got the Win32 version of Mozilla Firefox. I browsed to the Firefox download page in Konqueror and configured Konqueror Browser Identification to be Internet Explorer on Windows so that the Mozilla website diplays the Windows version to download. 3) Then I ran the Firefox setup executable in the console: wine "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.9.exe" You should now have a Firefox icon to click. (I chose to make one myself.) Hope that helps, Anton. From kc9aae1 at charter.net Tue Nov 27 04:30:13 2007 From: kc9aae1 at charter.net (Dana J. Laude) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:30:13 -0600 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> References: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> Message-ID: <474B9D55.3020802@charter.net> Michael Ulm wrote: > Luca wrote: >> Hi All. >> >> I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 >> tracks to wav files... >> >> I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search command... >> > > If you have nothing against the command line I can recommend SoX. With > this it is as simple as > > sox song.mp3 song.wav Audacity works fine for a gui, but rather tedious for a lot of files. A command line option would work cool, if you could say do (as in your example) sox /opt/tunes/mp3/*.mp3 /opt/tunes/ogg/*.ogg) .. or whatever. Dana -- A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it's not open. - Frank Zappa From sergeslists at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 04:32:28 2007 From: sergeslists at gmail.com (Serg B) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:32:28 +1100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: Realistically, if you are using Konqueror as your primary web browser you may as well go with IE7, at least you will be able to get something done. I personally suggest ditching Konqueror as a web browser and going with FireFox instead. Konqueror in my opinion is a great all-round file manager utility, but it certainly has a long way to go to compete with any modern day browsers. Serg On Nov 27, 2007 3:05 PM, Anton Rolls wrote: > Hi, > > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > Good evening, > > > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > > > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > > trying to deal with. > > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images > > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told > > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and > > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font > > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that > > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm > > filling out. > > > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > > there. > > Konqueror, when operating as a web-browser, is simple and > underpowered compared to Firefox etc.. > > It sounds like the solution for you might be to > install the win32 version of Firefox and install the > flash plugin. > Here's how I did it: > > 1) I got the latest version of Wine. > Quite recently I went to the Wine website for the > latest version, and I noticed it's a newer version > than the one in Adept. I looked at the change history > between the versions and saw all just bug fixes. > So I installed the newer version. > (I think I added the Wine website to my package sources > list and then used Adept...?) > > 2) I got the Win32 version of Mozilla Firefox. > I browsed to the Firefox download page in Konqueror and configured > Konqueror Browser Identification to be Internet Explorer on > Windows so that the Mozilla website diplays the Windows version > to download. > > 3) Then I ran the Firefox setup executable in the console: > > wine "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.9.exe" > > You should now have a Firefox icon to click. (I chose to > make one myself.) > > Hope that helps, > > Anton. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From paul at lemmons.name Tue Nov 27 06:04:54 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:04:54 -0700 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <474BB386.9050703@lemmons.name> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Good evening, > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer > I am sure others will suggest the same but use firefox instead. apt-get install firefox to install it. I use it as my one and only browser. It does flash just fine. It works excellently with Gmail and travel sites. Occasionally there is a bit of trouble on some of the news video sites but even there I am beginning to find it works without issue. I don't use Windows or IE at all and I manage quite happily and without many compromises. From paul at lemmons.name Tue Nov 27 06:08:18 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:08:18 -0700 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <474BB452.1010703@lemmons.name> Anton Rolls wrote: > Hi, > > It sounds like the solution for you might be to > install the win32 version of Firefox and install the > flash plugin. > Here's how I did it: > > 1) I got the latest version of Wine. > > Ummm... there is a linux version of the flash plug in that works flawlessly... save the wine for special occasions... From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 06:36:15 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:36:15 +0200 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <474AEE30.5020305@gmail.com> References: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> <474AEE30.5020305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <474BBADF.40207@gmail.com> Paul S wrote: > Michael Ulm said the following on 11/26/2007 04:22 AM: >> Luca wrote: >>> I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 >>> tracks to wav files... > > Remember that mp3 to wav can result in some loss of the track, so > quality suffers a bit. So, don't go back and forth more than once and > save your original mp3 files, as they will be the best quality in the > future, if you need them again. > Not to be itsybitsy on details but it is the wav to mp3 conversion that creates the loss as mp3 (as ogg and many others) by design are a lossy compression method. Meaning it permanently removes stuff from the original input file, not only compresses. It is however correct that it would result in more and more loss to do wav to mp3 and then mp3 to wav and then back again. From paul at lemmons.name Tue Nov 27 06:38:20 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:38:20 -0700 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <474B9D55.3020802@charter.net> References: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> <474B9D55.3020802@charter.net> Message-ID: <474BBB5C.40003@lemmons.name> Luca wrote: >>> Hi All. >>> >>> I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 >>> tracks to wav files... >>> >>> I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search command... >>> >>> K->System->Adept Manager search for "soundconverter" or search for "sox" I have not tried either it but it looks like what you are looking for. The following command should convert all of your mp3's to wav's > cd MyMusic MyMusic> find . -print0 -name "*.mp3" | sed -e "s/\.mp3$//" | xargs -0tI {} sox "{}.mp3" "{}.wav" It is also possible to do with mplayer but it is a little more complex. This would be useful only if you already have mplayer installed with mp3 support. Just out of curiosity... why mp3->wav? Do you sell hard disks? From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 06:41:51 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:41:51 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <474BBC2F.70808@gmail.com> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Good evening, > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > trying to deal with. > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm > filling out. > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > there. Like so many others have suggested I use Firefox as my main browser though I occasionally find a site where Konq works better. If you absolutely need Internet Explorer maybe you should check out IEs4Linux though I dont know how that works myself: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page Sinclair From michael.ulm at isis-papyrus.com Tue Nov 27 06:44:32 2007 From: michael.ulm at isis-papyrus.com (Michael Ulm) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:44:32 +0100 Subject: Quick conversion from mp3 to wav In-Reply-To: <474B9D55.3020802@charter.net> References: <27308d500711250454w5093ba45i3401dc5ff142e92f@mail.gmail.com> <474A904D.2000708@isis-papyrus.com> <474B9D55.3020802@charter.net> Message-ID: <474BBCD0.9090906@isis-papyrus.com> Dana J. Laude wrote: > Michael Ulm wrote: >> Luca wrote: >>> Hi All. >>> >>> I need a program available on kubuntu repository to convert some mp3 >>> tracks to wav files... >>> >>> I'm sorry but I cant find any usefull by the apt-cache search command... >>> >> If you have nothing against the command line I can recommend SoX. With >> this it is as simple as >> >> sox song.mp3 song.wav > > Audacity works fine for a gui, but rather tedious for a lot of > files. A command line option would work cool, if you could say do > (as in your example) sox /opt/tunes/mp3/*.mp3 /opt/tunes/ogg/*.ogg) > .. or whatever. > > Dana This can be done using standard shell scripting capabilities. The syntax is (assuming you use bash, and btw. this is untested) for i in /opt/tunes/mp3/*.mp3; do sox "$i" "${i/.mp3}".wav; done HTH, Michael From anton at wilddsl.net.au Tue Nov 27 07:32:05 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:32:05 +1100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474BB452.1010703@lemmons.name> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> <474BB452.1010703@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <474BC7F5.4080008@wilddsl.net.au> Paul Lemmons wrote: > Ummm... there is a linux version of the flash plug in that works > flawlessly... save the wine for special occasions... > Ah thanks, I didn't know that. Regards, Anton. From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Tue Nov 27 07:36:48 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:36:48 +0000 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474BBC2F.70808@gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474BBC2F.70808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071127073648.5ca918c9@graham-desktop> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:41:51 +0200 "O. Sinclair" wrote: > Like so many others have suggested I use Firefox as my main browser [snipped] Good advice, but I prefer Opera, which meets my needs better. To start with, it has an in-built mail application for replying to web mailto: tags. You CAN get Firefox to do the same with Thunderbird, but in Opera its a breeze. And next, it has a really good inbuilt bittorrent downloader. It is faster to start up, and has a number of security features. http://www.opera.com/download -- Graham Todd From kubuntu at mekanix.dk Tue Nov 27 08:52:01 2007 From: kubuntu at mekanix.dk (Bjarne Wichmann Petersen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:52:01 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <200711270952.01487.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> On Tuesday 27 November 2007, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > there. It's quite interesting to read the responses to your post. I've been using Konqueror as my primary browser for the last 6-7 years. And I think it is doing really well. Though once in a while I encounter a non-standard-compliant (aka IE-only) website for which I then use Firefox. So I'd say Konqueror is one of the best standard-compliant websites and my "web-sphere" apparently consist of mostly standard-compliant websites! :-) My wife though, preferes Firefox, since she visits a lot of IE-only websites. Bjarne From neil at holsdev.vispa.com Tue Nov 27 09:02:10 2007 From: neil at holsdev.vispa.com (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:02:10 +0000 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <20071127090210.9927c4f6.neil@holsdev.vispa.com> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:52:10 -0500 (EST) "Jonathan Jesse" wrote: > Good evening, > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > I would never use Konqueror as my main browser, in fact I don't use it as a browser at all. I use Firefox most of the time, but occasionally I use Opera. I also have Galeon set up. Yes, just occasionally I find that a web site is written so badly that only IE will work. My response is quite simple. I never go near that site again. Neil Winchurst From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Tue Nov 27 11:01:47 2007 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:01:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> from "Derek Broughton" at Nov 25, 2007 05:28:17 PM Message-ID: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 I've allways steered clear of using the number modes, as I've never seen a list of which ones are what. I've noted that none of the /etc files seem to be editable, "out of the box", but I don't know if that's what the problem is here; I.e., If it's the same problem, or part of another. Anyone got any clues? Bill On Mon Nov 26 03:09:59 2007 Donn wrote: >> Anyone know where KDE puts it's error messages? >Sounds like that new "Invisible pixel" (TM) technology is working! > >> I tried to use Adept manager from the menu, and got a small window >with, "Error - KDE su", >Did you just go K->System->Adept? > >> unfortunately, the, "?", help button wasn't helpful about just what the >> error was. >No, no. That button is there to *get* you puzzled. See it says "?" :D > >Okay, sorry for being useless -- I hope your sudo is not busted somehow. Open >a konsole and try [sudo ls /] or something, just to make sure sudo is okay. > >\d > -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 27 11:28:39 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:28:39 -0500 Subject: OS suggestions Message-ID: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> Hey all, I have 2 computers that I've had sitting around for a couple years, and I'd like to put kubuntu on them, but that doesn't seem to work. The IBM with an AMD k6 and 128mb sdram will let me install kubuntu 7.10 but it's slowwwwwwwwww and I get protocols dying on me unexpectedly. The Other computer is an Intel PII with 128mb sdram and the install disk will not start up at all. I installed Win XP on both of them and it works fine, but I don't want Winblows on these machines. Any suggestions? I want to get these computers up and running for my kids and tailor them with games and kids apps. -- Q: Why is it that Mexico isn't sending anyone to the '84 summer games? A: Anyone in Mexico who can run, swim or jump is already in LA. From basroufs at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 11:46:44 2007 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:46:44 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen - never rely on 1 browser only! In-Reply-To: <474BBC2F.70808@gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474BBC2F.70808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <474C03A4.4000601@gmail.com> Dear everybody >> ..... >> >> Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or >> should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" >> there. >> > > Like so many others have suggested I use Firefox as my main browser > though I occasionally find a site where Konq works better. If you > absolutely need Internet Explorer maybe you should check out IEs4Linux O. Sinclair wrote: > though I dont know how that works myself: > http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page > > Sinclair > > > Sinclair is absolutely right. Also I use Firefox as my main browser. Firefox has many practical, technical features I like very much. Moreover, Firefox works quite well with at least 9 out of every 10 websites I visit. Even complicated websites like that of my bank work well with Firefox, which is perfectly open source and flexibly adjustable to many practical needs. Even something complicated and delicate like on line banking transactions are perfectly possible with Firefox in combination with the site of my bank. HOWEVER....!! NEVER rely on one web browser only. Also other open source browsers like Konqueror and Opera can have certain advantages Firefox hasn't. Upon reading Sinclairs input, I gratefully bookmarked the link to 'IES4Linux': a browser that can be used to consult websites that only work with Internet Explorer. Such software may also deliver useful feedback to check how your own website design looks like on Internet Explorer - something I have been looking for a while. On the other hand, also the author of 'IES4Linux' advises to use 'Firefox' for web browsing in general... The open source community is deliciously clever..... :-) Warm greetings, Bas. -- ************************* Viaconsensus Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E.: BasRoufs at gmail.com M.: +31.6.446.835.10. T.: +31.30.785.20.40. Skype: BasRoufs Google Talk: BasRoufs Yahoo Messenger: Bas6Human ************************** From 316097 at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 11:50:20 2007 From: 316097 at gmail.com (316097 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:50:20 +0100 Subject: OS suggestions In-Reply-To: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: On 11/27/07, David McGlone wrote: > > Hey all, > > I have 2 computers that I've had sitting around for a couple years, and > I'd > like to put kubuntu on them, but that doesn't seem to work. The IBM with > an > AMD k6 and 128mb sdram will let me install kubuntu 7.10 but it's > slowwwwwwwwww and I get protocols dying on me unexpectedly. The Other > computer is an Intel PII with 128mb sdram and the install disk will not > start > up at all. I installed Win XP on both of them and it works fine, but I > don't > want Winblows on these machines. > > Any suggestions? I want to get these computers up and running for my kids > and > tailor them with games and kids apps. > > -- > Q: Why is it that Mexico isn't sending anyone to the '84 summer > games? > A: Anyone in Mexico who can run, swim or jump is already in LA. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Maybe you should try Xubuntu instead, it's friendler than Kubuntu and Ubuntu on old hardware. / Pierre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Tue Nov 27 11:54:59 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:54:59 +0100 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> Bill Vance wrote: > Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: > > sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to recovery mode now. Then change the permissions of /etc/sudoers to 0440 like this: chmod 440 /etc/sudoers After that the sudo command is available again. > I've allways steered clear of using the number modes, as I've never > seen a list of which ones are what. The last 3 digits are the permissions for owner / group / world. Each digit is a sum of the values of the permission bits: - 1 for executable - 2 for writable - 4 for readable If the number is 4 digits, the first digit specifies special flags like directory. Therefore the above mentioned modes are: 0740 = readable + executable for the owner and readable for the group 0440 = readable for owner and group > I've noted that none of the /etc > files seem to be editable, "out of the box", That's because files in /etc are usually owned by root and are not writable for "normal" users. > but I don't know if that's > what the problem is here; I.e., If it's the same problem, or part of > another. The /etc/sudoers permissions problem only disables the use of the sudo command. If that is fixed, you can edit files in /etc as root but still not as "normal" user - but that is normal behaviour anyway and not a problem. Nils From hvralpha at intekom.co.za Tue Nov 27 12:14:53 2007 From: hvralpha at intekom.co.za (hvralpha) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:14:53 +0200 Subject: OS Suggestions Message-ID: <200711271414.53557.hvralpha@intekom.co.za> Try running both on XFCE desktop in place of KDE. Will speed them up. As option try PCLinuxOS or Linux Mint for compatibility. From turgon at mike-leone.com Tue Nov 27 12:13:47 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:13:47 -0500 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> References: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <474C09FB.8040907@mike-leone.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Bill Vance wrote: >> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: >> >> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 > > As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to > recovery mode now. That's one of the reasons why I always put a password on "root", and use "su". YMMV. From alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 13:04:52 2007 From: alexander.v.smirnov at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:04:52 +0300 Subject: skype on kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> References: <4745D1EA.3000501@spidernet.com.cy> Message-ID: <474C15F4.6040908@gmail.com> Aristides Kaponides wrote: > I am completely newbie on Linux.Can we use skype on Kubuntu.I have > downloaded it but couldnt open it.Explicit instructions are very welcomed. you should complete three steps, run the following instructions in your terminal (konsole for example) 1. import Medibuntu repository: sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list 2.import the gpg-key and update your package-list: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update 3. install skype: apt-get install skype From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 27 14:00:15 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:00:15 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <2021994.IeLuagtHVi@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <13450952.WAj4HnBOry@cedar.serverforest.com> Chris Miller wrote: > I use both, depending on what I need at that moment. I get the best > of both worlds. And my HDD is only 20G, so don't tell me I'm just > spoiled with a big drive. All my peers have four to five times that > much storage in their laptops. They're just trying to be nice to you. I just bought a new laptop, and they _start_ at 120G :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 27 14:06:42 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:06:42 -0400 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <3046787.ydP4jMsEns@cedar.serverforest.com> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > have lived to accept it, But you _don't_ have to accept it. Just click on the odd icon that, to my eyes at least, looks like a toad facing away from you (it's also in the Tools menu, "Change Browser Identification") and tell it to identify as the latest version of either Firefox or IE. For google and gmail, either works. > but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > trying to deal with. > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > there. That's life. The price you pay to use Konqueror is that it is standards-compliant. I'm not sure I agree with not breaking the agreed standards to conform to the de-facto standard, but that's the choice the developers have made. I have never come across a site that doesn't work in konqueror that still passes the W3C checks (though I expect there are _some_). If that's a huge problem for you - and it seems like it is - use Firefox. It's a better browser than IE, and will work on virtually all the same sites. -- derek From pcpinkerton at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 14:22:07 2007 From: pcpinkerton at gmail.com (Phil Pinkerton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:22:07 -0500 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: I have always used FireFox.. it has been enough for what I need, but then again my needs are basic and simple. Just my .02345 cents On Nov 26, 2007 9:52 PM, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Good evening, > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > trying to deal with. > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm > filling out. > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > there. > > > -- > Jonathan Jesse > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- " The fundamental principle here is that the justification for a physical concept lies exclusively in its clear an unambiguous relation to the facts it can be experienced" AE From mlsoft at videotron.ca Tue Nov 27 15:24:53 2007 From: mlsoft at videotron.ca (Martin Laberge) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:24:53 -0500 Subject: OS suggestions In-Reply-To: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711271024.53363.mlsoft@videotron.ca> On November 27, 2007 06:28:39 David McGlone wrote: > Hey all, > > I have 2 computers that I've had sitting around for a couple years, and I'd > like to put kubuntu on them, but that doesn't seem to work. The IBM with an > AMD k6 and 128mb sdram will let me install kubuntu 7.10 but it's > slowwwwwwwwww and I get protocols dying on me unexpectedly. The Other > computer is an Intel PII with 128mb sdram and the install disk will not start > up at all. I installed Win XP on both of them and it works fine, but I don't > want Winblows on these machines. > > Any suggestions? I want to get these computers up and running for my kids and > tailor them with games and kids apps. > > -- > Q: Why is it that Mexico isn't sending anyone to the '84 summer games? > A: Anyone in Mexico who can run, swim or jump is already in LA. > Use Xubuntu, you will get a good performance on old machines and you can run almost any kde or gnome apps on it. -- Martin Laberge, 30 years of unix admin... and still learning! mlsoft at videotron.ca (418) 575-2945 From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 15:28:17 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:28:17 +0200 Subject: Email Client In-Reply-To: <13450952.WAj4HnBOry@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <2021994.IeLuagtHVi@cedar.serverforest.com> <13450952.WAj4HnBOry@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <880dece00711270728l7f374279v9ecece0f0b891a17@mail.gmail.com> On 27/11/2007, Derek Broughton wrote: > Chris Miller wrote: > > > I use both, depending on what I need at that moment. I get the best > > of both worlds. And my HDD is only 20G, so don't tell me I'm just > > spoiled with a big drive. All my peers have four to five times that > > much storage in their laptops. > > They're just trying to be nice to you. I just bought a new laptop, and they > _start_ at 120G :-) I thought that they start at 32 GB: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/2238239 Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 27 15:11:01 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:11:01 -0400 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <11854146.Y5bsABfQlR@cedar.serverforest.com> Serg B wrote: > Realistically, if you are using Konqueror as your primary web browser > you may as well go with IE7, There's no logic in that statement. > at least you will be able to get > something done. I personally suggest ditching Konqueror as a web > browser and going with FireFox instead. Konqueror in my opinion is a > great all-round file manager utility, but it certainly has a long way > to go to compete with any modern day browsers. Konqueror never _will_ compete with modern browsers, because it starts from the basis that pages have to comply with standards. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 27 15:24:14 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:24:14 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> <474C09FB.8040907@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: >> Bill Vance wrote: >>> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: >>> >>> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 >> >> As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to >> recovery mode now. > > That's one of the reasons why I always put a password on "root", and use > "su". YMMV. Pretty weak. He only got this way by doing things he shouldn't - so you'd like to make it easier to do things you shouldn't... -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 27 15:22:54 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:22:54 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <1550583.ugxxUpPtzC@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <1940134.1yN5IMD24z@cedar.serverforest.com> Bill Vance wrote: PLEASE don't top post. How are we supposed to have a conversation? (maybe I should just make this my .sig...) > Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: > > sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 > > I've allways steered clear of using the number modes, as I've never seen a > list of which ones are what. So, just create a file in /tmp and change the mode to both of those. It's easy enough to seem what they mean. otoh, "man chmod" almost certainly tells you. > I've noted that none of the /etc files seem > to be editable, "out of the box", but I don't know if that's what the > problem None of them should be "editable" (by you as a normal user) but they are generally readable. Anything to do with passwords and granting system privilege is not readable, and in this case not even writeable. /etc/sudoers is specifically not writeable to enforce using visudo to edit it. > is here; I.e., If it's the same problem, or part of another. Anyone got > any clues? Obviously, that _is_ your problem - why would you not automatically assume that when you get an error message trying "sudo" that that is the problem with "sudo"? I suspect your only option to fix this now is to boot into single user mode and "chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers", since you can't become root with an invalid /etc/sudoers. In future, _never_ try to change /etc/sudoers except through visudo (because you don't know how to use 'vi' is not a good enough excuse - visudo will use the editor of your choice if you set up the editor and editorrc alternatives). -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 16:02:13 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:02:13 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > Hi, > > Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > Good evening, > > > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > > > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > > trying to deal with. > > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images > > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told > > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and > > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font > > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that > > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm > > filling out. > > > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > > there. > > Konqueror, when operating as a web-browser, is simple and > underpowered compared to Firefox etc.. > > It sounds like the solution for you might be to > install the win32 version of Firefox and install the > flash plugin. > Here's how I did it: > > 1) I got the latest version of Wine. > Quite recently I went to the Wine website for the > latest version, and I noticed it's a newer version > than the one in Adept. I looked at the change history > between the versions and saw all just bug fixes. > So I installed the newer version. > (I think I added the Wine website to my package sources > list and then used Adept...?) > > 2) I got the Win32 version of Mozilla Firefox. > I browsed to the Firefox download page in Konqueror and configured > Konqueror Browser Identification to be Internet Explorer on > Windows so that the Mozilla website diplays the Windows version > to download. > > 3) Then I ran the Firefox setup executable in the console: > > wine "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.9.exe" > > You should now have a Firefox icon to click. (I chose to > make one myself.) > > Hope that helps, > > Anton. You run the windows version of Fx in wine? You are aware that you can run 32 bit Firefox on a 64 bit system, no? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 16:00:16 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:00:16 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <880dece00711270800y5d3d9a03o57f090cec374235b@mail.gmail.com> On 27/11/2007, Jonathan Jesse wrote: > Good evening, > > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I couldn't > figure out which one would be better to post to. > > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web is > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick of > trying to deal with. > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the images > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am told > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning and > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the font > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page that > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what I'm > filling out. > > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just work" > there. What websites do not work properly in Konqueror? If you list specific websites and specific problems, I personally will confirm the problems and write to the webmasters. Konqueror is more standards-compliant that either Firefox or IE, and websites that do not display properly are obviously poorly coded. A common reason for this is that the sites code to display properly according to Internet Explorer's bugs. This is a flawed approach for many reasons, one of which is that IE's flaws change from version to version. That said, I myself browse in Firefox. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 27 16:29:24 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:29:24 -0400 Subject: Email Client References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B960368FB4C@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> <200711252218.32188.valtermura@yahoo.it> <200711261753.27089.mailinglist@endosquid.com> <2021994.IeLuagtHVi@cedar.serverforest.com> <13450952.WAj4HnBOry@cedar.serverforest.com> <880dece00711270728l7f374279v9ecece0f0b891a17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1269955.ZuRRpUHOYh@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 27/11/2007, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Chris Miller wrote: >> >> > I use both, depending on what I need at that moment. I get the best >> > of both worlds. And my HDD is only 20G, so don't tell me I'm just >> > spoiled with a big drive. All my peers have four to five times that >> > much storage in their laptops. >> >> They're just trying to be nice to you. I just bought a new laptop, and >> they _start_ at 120G :-) > > I thought that they start at 32 GB: > http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/2238239 Well, you can get an ASUS eee with 4GB (I think) but all the real laptops I checked last month had 120-160. -- derek From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 17:22:21 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:22:21 +0200 Subject: No deflate rar option in konqueror Message-ID: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> In older versions of KDE/Kubuntu I had a contect menu option on konqueror for unpacking rar/tar/zip archives. I no longer have that. How can it be enabled? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kd4jdl1 at verizon.net Tue Nov 27 17:39:30 2007 From: kd4jdl1 at verizon.net (Daniel Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:39:30 -0500 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474BB452.1010703@lemmons.name> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> <474BB452.1010703@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <474C5652.7050508@verizon.net> Paul Lemmons wrote: > > Anton Rolls wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It sounds like the solution for you might be to >> install the win32 version of Firefox and install the >> flash plugin. >> Here's how I did it: >> >> 1) I got the latest version of Wine. >> >> > Ummm... there is a linux version of the flash plug in that works > flawlessly... save the wine for special occasions... > ies4linux will install ie6 under wine, if that's any help. Works well here. Dan -- Using Linux since 1998. (: (: (: (: (: (: (: From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 17:55:53 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:55:53 -0700 Subject: setting konq default view In-Reply-To: <4748F9C7.1090904@wilddsl.net.au> References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> <4748F9C7.1090904@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <256f4e900711270955o6c4961fcg3feded292c4400d4@mail.gmail.com> On 24/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > Hi, > > D. R. Evans wrote: > > On 23/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> D. R. Evans wrote: > >>> I know I have done this in the past, but I can't find my notes anywhere :-( > >>> > >>> In konq, how do I configure it so that whenever I use it as a file > >>> manager, I always get a tree view instead of icons? > >>> > > Ok, open Konqueror, navigate to a folder, set view to "Tree View". > Now go to Settings/Configure View Profiles, enter "Tree View" as the > profile name and press "Save". > > Now, if you open Konsole and type: > > konqueror --profiles > > you should see your new profile "Tree View" listed. > If you now type: > > konqueror --profile "Tree View" > > Konqueror should pop open in tree view mode. Nope. What happens is: konq opens with a blank page (which is fine, I am happy with that). I click the little "home" iconm and I get the about:konqueror "Conquer Your Desktop" page. That's also fine. Now I click "Home Folder" and I see... those pesky icons that I can't get rid of instead of the desired tree view :-( From karlok at fastmail.fm Tue Nov 27 18:20:47 2007 From: karlok at fastmail.fm (Karl) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:20:47 -0800 Subject: setting konq default view In-Reply-To: <256f4e900711270955o6c4961fcg3feded292c4400d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> <4748F9C7.1090904@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711270955o6c4961fcg3feded292c4400d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474C5FFF.8080709@fastmail.fm> Did you miss the reply from Derek Broughton? This actually works: D. R. Evans wrote: > > I know I have done this in the past, but I can't find my notes anywhere > > :-( > > > > In konq, how do I configure it so that whenever I use it as a file > > manager, I always get a tree view instead of icons? > > > > Sorry to ask such a basic question. It's not SO basic. I used konqueror for years, continually frustrated by this, before finally asking here :-) > > I've looked in all the menus, and > > I can't find anything that suggests that it will change the default > > view. I tried setting the view to tree view and then saving the > > profile, thinking that surely that would work -- it didn't :-( I noticed :-( In the konqueror configuration: File Associations, in the "known types" box, select inode/directory, and in the Embedding tab, select Tree View (kong_treeview). Happy to pass it on... -- From spwhite at freesurf.ch Tue Nov 27 18:24:31 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:24:31 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <880dece00711270800y5d3d9a03o57f090cec374235b@mail.gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711270800y5d3d9a03o57f090cec374235b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Tuesday 27 November 2007 17:00, Dotan Cohen wrote: > What websites do not work properly in Konqueror? If you list specific > websites and specific problems, I personally will confirm the problems > and write to the webmasters. Great. I followed that thread with interest, usually use Konk, but switcht to firefox if I need. Perhaps I will implement the strategie suggested by Derek "Change Browser Identification" [tells you how whicked some corporations are !] (it is not the first time I read about that). If you're "Feeling like a 2nd class citizen", want to know how a First class citizen feel? (sorry, couldn't help it) read on: ************************************************************************************ Words of G.W. Bush at a Town Hall session in Orlando, Florida, on the 4th december 2001 Question: How did you *feel* when you heard about the terrorist attack? Answer: *Well*...(long pause, applauses from audience) Thank you Jordan, You are not gonna belive *what state I was in* when I heard about the terrorist attack. *I was in Florida.* (taken from:) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6529813972926262623 *********************************************************************************** -- BOFH excuse #201: RPC_PMAP_FAILURE From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Tue Nov 27 18:15:51 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:15:51 +0100 Subject: gutsy and keyboard volume keys... Message-ID: <474C5ED7.70607@wanadoo.fr> Hi, I finally upgraded and am facing my first gutsy problem : I can't use anymore my keyboard volume keys. Indeed, when I do use them, I can see the volume beeing changed between 0 and 11% (in one step), but I can't get the volume higher than 11%, which I don't understand. First thing to notice is that the volume is not 0 or 11%, but it is about 75% and not changing with the keys. Whatever master channel I choose right clicking on the kmix icon, I have this strange limit on 11% (well, actually the volume is not changed at all, there is just the display)... Any help would be apreciated here :] Cheers From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 18:43:08 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:43:08 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711270800y5d3d9a03o57f090cec374235b@mail.gmail.com> <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <880dece00711271043s5d5913dta39dc7793f4dd337@mail.gmail.com> On 27/11/2007, Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > On Tuesday 27 November 2007 17:00, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > What websites do not work properly in Konqueror? If you list specific > > websites and specific problems, I personally will confirm the problems > > and write to the webmasters. > Great. > > I followed that thread with interest, usually use Konk, but switcht to firefox > if I need. > Perhaps I will implement the strategie suggested by Derek "Change Browser > Identification" [tells you how whicked some corporations are !] (it is not > the first time I read about that). Why not adapt a parallel strategy and write to those responsible for the websites in question? I have found that most websites, large and small, are in fact willing to make the necessary changes once enough people ask them to. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From news at pointerstop.ca Tue Nov 27 20:45:50 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:45:50 -0400 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711270800y5d3d9a03o57f090cec374235b@mail.gmail.com> <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <1683362.V8T5S30U7X@cedar.serverforest.com> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > I followed that thread with interest, usually use Konk, but switcht to > firefox if I need. > Perhaps I will implement the strategie suggested by Derek "Change Browser > Identification" [tells you how whicked some corporations are !] (it is not > the first time I read about that). > To be fair, it's not usually "wicked", it's just sloppy. They write javascript that needs to use specific work-arounds for different browsers, instead of just using non-browser specific code - or using a product like prototype or dojo which takes it out of your hands. -- derek From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 21:49:52 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:49:52 -0700 Subject: setting konq default view In-Reply-To: <474C5FFF.8080709@fastmail.fm> References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> <4748F9C7.1090904@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711270955o6c4961fcg3feded292c4400d4@mail.gmail.com> <474C5FFF.8080709@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <474C9100.3040307@gmail.com> Karl said the following at 11/27/2007 11:20 AM : > Did you miss the reply from Derek Broughton? This actually works: > I did. I saw it late yesterday, then forgot about it, and when I made the mistake of looking at my mail with gmail instead of Thunderbird this morning, it compressed Derek's e-mail on the screen so I didn't remember that he'd sent something that sounded helpful. And yes, it does work. Thank you so much Derek for providing the answer, and Karl for reminding me. Doc From kassube at gmx.net Tue Nov 27 22:14:54 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:14:54 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711270800y5d3d9a03o57f090cec374235b@mail.gmail.com> <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200711272314.54729.kassube@gmx.net> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Perhaps I will implement the strategie suggested by Derek "Change > Browser Identification" May I suggest you use an obviously fake browser ID? Something like IE 11.3 on Mac OSX. Until now i found no site that didn't accept it. they seem to only look for MSIE with a number >= 5. Nils From turgon at mike-leone.com Tue Nov 27 22:27:19 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:27:19 -0500 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> <474C09FB.8040907@mike-leone.com> <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <20071127222718.GT6166@localhost> Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/27/07 at 10:35: > Mike Leone wrote: > > > Nils Kassube wrote: > >> Bill Vance wrote: > >>> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: > >>> > >>> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 > >> > >> As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to > >> recovery mode now. > > > > That's one of the reasons why I always put a password on "root", and use > > "su". YMMV. > > Pretty weak. He only got this way by doing things he shouldn't - so you'd > like to make it easier to do things you shouldn't... "Shouldn't"? Using "su" is pretty standard Linux practice. And everyone should have the freedom to run their system the way they like, don't you think? Otherwise, that's pretty weak. If they want to do things only the Ubuntu way, fine. If they want to do things other ways, also fine. You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want to. From tanghus at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 22:38:13 2007 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:38:13 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711270952.01487.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711270952.01487.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> Message-ID: <200711272338.14214.tanghus@gmail.com> On Tue 27 November 2007 09:52, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > > It's quite interesting to read the responses to your post. I've been using > Konqueror as my primary browser for the last 6-7 years. And I think it is > doing really well. Though once in a while I encounter a > non-standard-compliant (aka IE-only) website for which I then use Firefox. > > So I'd say Konqueror is one of the best standard-compliant websites and > my "web-sphere" apparently consist of mostly standard-compliant websites! > :-) I second that. I only use FireFox for my web bank. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thomas Olsen From doc.evans at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 22:47:30 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:47:30 -0700 Subject: kontact summary view Message-ID: <256f4e900711271447u78b83f64j64ae59eede59c7df@mail.gmail.com> Is this just me? Running 64-bit gutsy, I can't get anything to display in the kontact summary view. For example, even though I have an appointment tomorrow, and a To-Do item, neither of them in the respective parts of the summary view. I filed a bug report earlier because I couldn't get weather to appear in the summary, but now that I investigate further, it seems like nothing at all appears there. From d.mcglone at att.net Tue Nov 27 23:39:36 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:39:36 -0500 Subject: setting konq default view In-Reply-To: <474C9100.3040307@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474C5FFF.8080709@fastmail.fm> <474C9100.3040307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711271839.36549.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 27 November 2007 4:49:52 pm D. R. Evans wrote: > Karl said the following at 11/27/2007 11:20 AM : > > Did you miss the reply from Derek Broughton? This actually works: > > I did. > > I saw it late yesterday, then forgot about it, and when I made the mistake > of looking at my mail with gmail instead of Thunderbird this morning, it > compressed Derek's e-mail on the screen so I didn't remember that he'd sent > something that sounded helpful. > > And yes, it does work. Thank you so much Derek for providing the answer, > and Karl for reminding me. If you're really a doc, I'm glad you're not operating on me. ;-) -- You have literary talent that you should take pains to develop. From anton at wilddsl.net.au Wed Nov 28 00:54:32 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:54:32 +1100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474CBC48.90807@wilddsl.net.au> Hi Dotan, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >>> I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I >>> don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am running >>> 64-bit Kubuntu, >> It sounds like the solution for you might be to >> install the win32 version of Firefox and install the >> flash plugin. >> Anton. > > You run the windows version of Fx in wine? You are aware that you can > run 32 bit Firefox on a 64 bit system, no? > > Dotan Cohen Oops, I'm on 32-bit and missed that the original poster's machine is 64-bit. I don't know how well Firefox for Windows runs on 64-bit. Apologies, Anton. From anton at wilddsl.net.au Wed Nov 28 01:12:10 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:12:10 +1100 Subject: No deflate rar option in konqueror In-Reply-To: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474CC06A.3020101@wilddsl.net.au> Dotan Cohen wrote: > In older versions of KDE/Kubuntu I had a contect menu option on > konqueror for unpacking rar/tar/zip archives. I no longer have that. > How can it be enabled? Thanks in advance. > > Dotan Cohen I installed unrar-free via Adept, then symlinked /usr/bin/unrar -> unrar-free I think that's all I had to do, then Konqueror started working. Anton. From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Nov 28 01:35:40 2007 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> from "Derek Broughton" at Nov 27, 2007 11:24:14 AM Message-ID: <200711280135.RAA19204@xpresso.seaslug.org> Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/27/07 at 10:35: >> Mike Leone wrote: >> >> > Nils Kassube wrote: >> >> Bill Vance wrote: >> >>> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: >> >>> >> >>> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 >> >> >> >> As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to >> >> recovery mode now. >> > >> > That's one of the reasons why I always put a password on "root", and use >> > "su". YMMV. >> >> Pretty weak. He only got this way by doing things he shouldn't - so you'd >> like to make it easier to do things you shouldn't... > >"Shouldn't"? Using "su" is pretty standard Linux practice. And everyone should have >the freedom to run their system the way they like, don't you think? >Otherwise, that's pretty weak. If they want to do things only the Ubuntu >way, fine. If they want to do things other ways, also fine. > >You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want to. Which brings up something I've been noticing. I've gone through running an Amiga dos UUCP site with a Unix style shell, to three upgrades of Caldera Linux, to one of SUSE, and now Kubuntu. While the past systems, (and Kubuntu as well), all had a bit of a learning curve, this is the first time I've got the feeling of, "We're not going to let you do this, just because we don't like it that way, so there!" Then I noticed that the system tends to lose track of who is doing what when one of the available shells is being run by "root". In other words, you can't do a really long, complex, job of some sort as root, and take an occaisional email break, (or whatever), in another shell as, "user", without things getting a little kinky. I'll refrain from trying to deduce which is caused by which, (maybe it's something else, entirely). Don't get me wrong, Kubuntu seems a fine system in a lot of ways, but I can't quite shake the feeling that, "someone up there", needs to take the training wheels off their tricycle. 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LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 02:26:34 2007 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:26:34 -0500 Subject: OS suggestions In-Reply-To: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <69c7ddfb0711271826t4d34c92bjdc72aefbdefad115@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 27, 2007 6:28 AM, David McGlone wrote: > Hey all, > > I have 2 computers that I've had sitting around for a couple years, and > I'd > like to put kubuntu on them, but that doesn't seem to work. The IBM with > an > AMD k6 and 128mb sdram will let me install kubuntu 7.10 but it's > slowwwwwwwwww and I get protocols dying on me unexpectedly. The Other > computer is an Intel PII with 128mb sdram and the install disk will not > start > up at all. I installed Win XP on both of them and it works fine, but I > don't > want Winblows on these machines. > > Any suggestions? I want to get these computers up and running for my kids > and > tailor them with games and kids apps. > > -- > Q: Why is it that Mexico isn't sending anyone to the '84 summer > games? > A: Anyone in Mexico who can run, swim or jump is already in LA. > > -- > Well you can go command line only or maybe find some junk computers and > grab a little more memory. Never tried xubuntu so no comment there. Uriah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 02:30:13 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:30:13 -0600 Subject: VOIP Softphone with HDA Soundcard In-Reply-To: <200711272022.29755.dhcolesj@gmail.com> References: <200711272022.29755.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711272030.13651.dhcolesj@gmail.com> On Tuesday 27 November 2007 08:22:29 pm Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > Does anyone have this working? > > If so what config? > > I've tried several and even though sound works, the Softphone's all lockup > when trying to access the sound card. Is there anything about this that > I'm missing? (Full Duplex is enabled in KDE, which I'm assuming means the > driver supports this) > > lspci produces: > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High > Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) > > lsmod | grep hd > snd_hda_intel 262552 1 > snd_pcm 81028 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss > snd 56452 14 snd_rtctimer,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss, > \snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi, > \snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device > snd_page_alloc 11272 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm > (NOTE: "\"'s added above to wrap the lines) > > When I run ekiga from the command line (the only one that produces > anything) this is what I see when trying to test the sound settings: > ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave > ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave > > Any help would be appreciated Forgive the replying to my own message, but I have more info: lsmod | grep snd produces more modules: snd_rtctimer 4768 1 snd_hda_intel 262552 1 snd_pcm_oss 44800 0 snd_pcm 81028 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_dummy 4996 0 snd_seq_oss 35328 0 snd_seq_midi 9728 0 snd_rawmidi 26112 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 8576 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq 54256 7 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 24452 3 snd_rtctimer,snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 9740 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd 56452 14 snd_rtctimer,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 8800 1 snd snd_page_alloc 11272 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From dhcolesj at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 02:22:29 2007 From: dhcolesj at gmail.com (Howard Coles Jr.) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:22:29 -0600 Subject: VOIP Softphone with HDA Soundcard Message-ID: <200711272022.29755.dhcolesj@gmail.com> Does anyone have this working? If so what config? I've tried several and even though sound works, the Softphone's all lockup when trying to access the sound card. Is there anything about this that I'm missing? (Full Duplex is enabled in KDE, which I'm assuming means the driver supports this) lspci produces: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) lsmod | grep hd snd_hda_intel 262552 1 snd_pcm 81028 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd 56452 14 snd_rtctimer,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss, \snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi, \snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device snd_page_alloc 11272 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm (NOTE: "\"'s added above to wrap the lines) When I run ekiga from the command line (the only one that produces anything) this is what I see when trying to test the sound settings: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Any help would be appreciated -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 02:31:10 2007 From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:31:10 -0800 Subject: OS suggestions In-Reply-To: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: Damn Small Linux http://damnsmalllinux.org/ -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 http://profile.xfire.com/mrstalinman John 3:16! From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 03:50:44 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:50:44 +0200 Subject: kontact summary view In-Reply-To: <256f4e900711271447u78b83f64j64ae59eede59c7df@mail.gmail.com> References: <256f4e900711271447u78b83f64j64ae59eede59c7df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711280550.44180.donn.ingle@gmail.com> >h I have an appointment tomorrow, > and a To-Do item, neither of them in the respective parts of the If you're life is coming-apart then try kalarm instead -- it's a real nice alarm/reminder/script runner gui. I never could make head nor tails of kontact. \d From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 28 05:13:07 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:13:07 +0000 Subject: OS suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <20071128051307.7a0b4a85@graham-desktop> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:31:10 -0800 "Chris Miller" wrote: > Damn > Small > Linux > > > http://damnsmalllinux.org/ Also, look at AntiX: http://www.mepis.org/node/13723 and look for it in the "testing" directory at one of the mirrors on this page: http://www.mepis.org/mirrors In general, depending on your memory resources, you won't get KDE to run in lower-spec machines. I believe AntiX uses Fluxbox as its Desktop. -- Graham Todd From ejviolet at yahoo.com Wed Nov 28 06:21:32 2007 From: ejviolet at yahoo.com (Earl Violet) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:21:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: OS suggestions In-Reply-To: <20071128051307.7a0b4a85@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <116298.34647.qm@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Graham wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:31:10 -0800 > "Chris Miller" wrote: > > > Damn > > Small > > Linux > > > > > > http://damnsmalllinux.org/ > > Also, look at AntiX: > > http://www.mepis.org/node/13723 > > and look for it in the "testing" directory at one of the mirrors on > this page: > > http://www.mepis.org/mirrors > > In general, depending on your memory resources, you won't get KDE > to > run in lower-spec machines. I believe AntiX uses Fluxbox as its > Desktop. > > -- > > Graham Todd I use UBUNTU with FVWM. You might want to try Ubuntu Server and then get fvwm-crystal. It's pretty light and you can find plenty of light programs from the Ubuntu repos. It looks good too. Almost infinitely programmable if you want to go into it. Earl URL http://deserthowler.cjb.net Instant messenger: earlcoyote ICQ:64033496 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From philbieber at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 07:04:46 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:04:46 +0100 Subject: Bizarro copy In-Reply-To: <200711261806.56390.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711261806.56390.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0711272304i35450873p6fc27191d0b6b78@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 26, 2007 5:06 PM, Donn wrote: > Yikes, > My machine just choked and I got weird dialogues saying "can't > read .bash-history" skip, cancel (for e.g.). > After a while I could type again and in konsole I top(ped) and ps(ed) and so > forth. Found a kio_file, amarok and kmail running heavy. I killed them all > and then noticed new folders on my desktop! > I now have copies of almost my entire root directory on the desktop! Sheesh. > I know I didn't do it cos a) I'm careful, b) I was not doing anything > drag/drop or copy related. > > I *had* set kmail to copy a vid sent to me to the desktop -- that's the only > thing I can connect to it. > > After a while I saw a copy progress window and brought it up. It was busy > copying gigs from file://dev/dsp#att7 > (Killed that sucker!) > > Does that dev/dsp ring any bells? I can't find any 'dsp' in /dev. > > \d > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi Donn, I don't know why your system is doing this, but "DSP" sounds a lot like it is your sound card... Hope that helps a bit... Cheers Philipp Bieber -- Are there any experienced suicide bombers? You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me. GPG KEY ID: 7C26EE5B0185E301 FINGERPRINT: CA81 28C2 E63F DAF8 5ED4 DACB 7C26 EE5B 0185 E301 From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 07:18:40 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:18:40 +0200 Subject: Bizarro copy In-Reply-To: <3b27fa9d0711272304i35450873p6fc27191d0b6b78@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711261806.56390.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <3b27fa9d0711272304i35450873p6fc27191d0b6b78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711280918.40294.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I don't know why your system is doing this, but "DSP" sounds a lot > like it is your sound card... Oh, that rings a bell. Not that it makes any sense! I don't know what happened at all. It was like the system came alive and thought, "hmmm, I feel like a holiday in the home partition." :) \d From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 07:29:26 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:29:26 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474CBC48.90807@wilddsl.net.au> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> <474CBC48.90807@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> On 28/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > > You run the windows version of Fx in wine? You are aware that you can > > run 32 bit Firefox on a 64 bit system, no? > > > > Dotan Cohen > > Oops, I'm on 32-bit and missed that the original poster's machine > is 64-bit. I don't know how well Firefox for Windows runs on 64-bit. > > Apologies, > > Anton. > My point is that there is no need to run Firefox on wine in Linux. 32-bit or 64-bit. It makes not one bit of sense. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 07:46:13 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:46:13 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474CBC48.90807@wilddsl.net.au> <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > My point is that there is no need to run Firefox on wine in Linux. Too true -- all you get out the other end is Drunkfox. \d From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 07:44:46 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:44:46 +0200 Subject: No deflate rar option in konqueror In-Reply-To: <474CC06A.3020101@wilddsl.net.au> References: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> <474CC06A.3020101@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <880dece00711272344l16d9d702yaf58e9f5f876cd3e@mail.gmail.com> On 28/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > In older versions of KDE/Kubuntu I had a contect menu option on > > konqueror for unpacking rar/tar/zip archives. I no longer have that. > > How can it be enabled? Thanks in advance. > > > > Dotan Cohen > > I installed unrar-free via Adept, then > symlinked /usr/bin/unrar -> unrar-free > I think that's all I had to do, then > Konqueror started working. > > Anton. Thanks. To _where_ did you symlink /usr/bin/unrar? Not to /home/user, as your post implies? I currently have /usr/bin/unrar-free, but my problem is that I need it to show up in the context menu in Konqueror, as zip and tar do. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kelungmpb at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 20:42:50 2007 From: kelungmpb at gmail.com (kelung) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:42:50 -0500 Subject: wireless disables (couldn't work) In-Reply-To: <200711242012.04978.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <200711242012.04978.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <200711271542.51085.kelungmpb@gmail.com> hii my laptop is acer aspire 5052 have wireless device atheros 5006EG not working in kubuntu gutsy (see the attachment) anyone can resolve this problem?? regards, kelung -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[ 134.399356] ath_hal: 0.9.18.0 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) [ 134.491444] wlan: 0.8.4.2 (0.9.3.2) [ 134.561810] ath_pci: 0.9.4.5 (0.9.3.2) [ 134.561860] PCI: Enabling device 0000:02:00.0 (0000 -> 0002) [ 134.561867] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 134.561880] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:02:00.0 to 64 [ 134.586194] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13) [ 134.586204] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:02:00.0 disabled From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 11:02:55 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:02:55 +0800 Subject: No deflate rar option in konqueror In-Reply-To: <880dece00711272344l16d9d702yaf58e9f5f876cd3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> <474CC06A.3020101@wilddsl.net.au> <880dece00711272344l16d9d702yaf58e9f5f876cd3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711281902.55538.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 3:44:46 pm Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 28/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > > I installed unrar-free via Adept, then > > symlinked /usr/bin/unrar -> unrar-free > > I think that's all I had to do, then > > Konqueror started working. > > > > Anton. > > Thanks. To _where_ did you symlink /usr/bin/unrar? Not to /home/user, > as your post implies? I currently have /usr/bin/unrar-free, but my > problem is that I need it to show up in the context menu in Konqueror, > as zip and tar do. You don't need to symlink anything. Just install "unrar" (if you don't have philosophical/moral arguments about using it). As for those context menus, you need to have Ark installed for those (it should be, by default). From balazs at rainstorm.org Wed Nov 28 11:08:14 2007 From: balazs at rainstorm.org (balazs at rainstorm.org) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:08:14 +0100 Subject: forbid hibernation / sleep for users Message-ID: <20071128120814.zropi5f0g4wwogsc@rainstorm.org> Hi! I've just installed a fresh Kubuntu 7.10 system. I've noticed that users can hibernate / sleep the system by default from the KDE logout window. It a desktop computer with minimal server application (e.g ssh, apache etc.) so in my case hibernation and sleep must be prohibited to users. I've been looking for a soultion from 2 days on Google, but unfortunately I didn't find any usable information. I've already tried to change permissions of related files under /etc/acpi/ to 750, but users can still hibernate the system :( I've checked /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc as well, but there isn't any possibility to disable user hibernation. Do you have any idea? Thanks in Advance! Best regards, Balazs Heder From balazs at rainstorm.org Wed Nov 28 11:15:59 2007 From: balazs at rainstorm.org (balazs at rainstorm.org) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:15:59 +0100 Subject: Change file association in KDE Message-ID: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> Hi, Where can I change file association under Kubuntu's KDE? In vanilla KDE there is under Kontrol Center -> KDE components -> File associations. In Kubuntu's Kontrol Center I don't find this feature. So I want to change the application with which system opens file with appropriate extensions. (For example I want to use mplayer for opening avi files instead of Kaffeine.) Thanks in advance! Best regards, Balazs Heder From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 11:16:28 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:16:28 +0200 Subject: No deflate rar option in konqueror In-Reply-To: <200711281902.55538.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> References: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> <474CC06A.3020101@wilddsl.net.au> <880dece00711272344l16d9d702yaf58e9f5f876cd3e@mail.gmail.com> <200711281902.55538.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00711280316x154537b4gb71e5ca4102c9662@mail.gmail.com> On 28/11/2007, Juan Carlos Torres wrote: > > You don't need to symlink anything. Just install "unrar" (if you don't have > philosophical/moral arguments about using it). No problems, and it's installed. > As for those context menus, you need to have Ark installed for those (it > should be, by default). Ark is installed. When I rightclick on a zip file, I have a context menu: (translated from Hebrew) Deflate -> Here || || To... However, I do not have those options for rar files. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From balazs at rainstorm.org Wed Nov 28 11:25:57 2007 From: balazs at rainstorm.org (balazs at rainstorm.org) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:25:57 +0100 Subject: policy for accessing storage media Message-ID: <20071128122557.ht0fm5b0kgoo0o84@rainstorm.org> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu 7.10. I want to set up a user policy for accessing media (cdrom, pendrive, memory cards etc.). With other words I want to apply the following policy: Only users for example in pendrive group are able to mount pendrives, only users in cdrom group are able to mount cdroms etc. The solution would be much nicer, if KDE's popup window only appeared when user with appropriate rights were logged in. I think it can be done with suitable udev rules, but I don't know the exact way. Could you give some ideas, or instuctions? Thanks in advance! Best regards, Balázs Héder From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 11:27:12 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:27:12 +0200 Subject: Change file association in KDE In-Reply-To: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> References: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> Message-ID: <880dece00711280327s52bde971s25460859d14a0e3c@mail.gmail.com> On 28/11/2007, balazs at rainstorm.org wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I change file association under Kubuntu's KDE? > In vanilla KDE there is under Kontrol Center -> KDE components -> File > associations. In Kubuntu's Kontrol Center I don't find this feature. > > So I want to change the application with which system opens file with > appropriate extensions. (For example I want to use mplayer for opening > avi files instead of Kaffeine.) > Thanks in advance! > > Best regards, > Balazs Heder Not a real fix, but a band-aid would be to rightclick a file of the type you want, then select Open With and the program that you want. Check the "remember this type" (or however it is in English) box and KDE will remember your preference. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 11:32:42 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:32:42 +0200 Subject: Change file association in KDE In-Reply-To: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> References: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> Message-ID: <200711281332.42116.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Where can I change file association under Kubuntu's KDE? > In vanilla KDE there is under Kontrol Center -> KDE components -> File > associations. In Kubuntu's Kontrol Center I don't find this feature. I always open kcontrol via Alt-F2 to do that stuff. \d From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 11:35:50 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:35:50 +0200 Subject: No deflate rar option in konqueror In-Reply-To: <880dece00711280316x154537b4gb71e5ca4102c9662@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> <200711281902.55538.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> <880dece00711280316x154537b4gb71e5ca4102c9662@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711281335.50459.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > However, I do not have those options for rar files. The answer might be in the .desktop file for ark. I seem to have several around the place, but here's one: /etc# cat /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/ark_extract.desktop [Desktop Entry] X-SuSE-translate=true Encoding=UTF-8 ServiceTypes=application/x-gzip,application/x-lha,application/x-tar,application/x-tgz,application/x-tbz,application/x-tbz2,application/x-zip,application/x-bzip,application/x-tzo,application/x-lzop,application/x-rar,application/x-rar-compressed,application/x-zoo,application/x-tarz,application/x-archive,application/x-bzip2,application/x-jar,application/x-deb,application/x-ace,application/x-7z,application/x-arc,application/x-arj,application/x-compress,application/x-cpio,application/x-pak Actions=extractHere [Desktop Action extractHere] Name=Extract Here Name[de]=Hierher entpacken Exec=ark --extract-to %d %u Icon=ark Seems like you could add rar into that list of ServiceTypes. Just a wild stab in the dark :) Perhaps there's an apt-getty way of doing this. \d From stdin at stdin.me.uk Wed Nov 28 11:48:23 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:48:23 +0000 Subject: Change file association in KDE In-Reply-To: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> References: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> Message-ID: <474D5587.5040608@stdin.me.uk> balazs at rainstorm.org wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I change file association under Kubuntu's KDE? > In vanilla KDE there is under Kontrol Center -> KDE components -> File > associations. In Kubuntu's Kontrol Center I don't find this feature. > > So I want to change the application with which system opens file with > appropriate extensions. (For example I want to use mplayer for opening > avi files instead of Kaffeine.) > Thanks in advance! > > Best regards, > Balazs Heder > > > >From Konqueror: Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations Terence From carlosdgtorres at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 12:10:14 2007 From: carlosdgtorres at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Torres) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:10:14 +0800 Subject: Change file association in KDE In-Reply-To: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> References: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> Message-ID: <200711282010.14441.carlosdgtorres@gmail.com> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 7:15:59 pm balazs at rainstorm.org wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I change file association under Kubuntu's KDE? > In vanilla KDE there is under Kontrol Center -> KDE components -> File > associations. In Kubuntu's Kontrol Center I don't find this feature. In Konqueror, Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Wed Nov 28 12:23:16 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:23:16 +0000 Subject: Mouse gestures In-Reply-To: <200711211542.14252.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <200711211542.14252.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711281223.16913.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Wednesday 21 November 2007 15:42:13 Mark Fraser wrote: > I've just noticed that with 7.10 I am unable to use mouse gestures in > Konqueror, they worked fine in 7.04. I've looked in Input Actions under > Accessibility in System Settings and there are no Actions pre-loaded. > > Should they be there and how do I get them back? I know they should be there as they're visible on my second computer just not this one. Anyone got any ideas how to get them back? From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Nov 28 12:44:44 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:44:44 +0100 Subject: Bizarro copy References: <200711261806.56390.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87hcj6letf.fsf@fjellstad.org> Donn writes: > Does that dev/dsp ring any bells? I can't find any 'dsp' in /dev. /dev/dsp used to be the device node for the old sound system (OSS) for linux. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net Wed Nov 28 14:11:38 2007 From: larryhartman50 at vzavenue.net (Larry Hartman) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:11:38 -0800 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711280611.38600.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> On Tuesday 27 November 2007 11:46:13 pm Donn wrote: > > My point is that there is no need to run Firefox on wine in Linux. > > Too true -- all you get out the other end is Drunkfox. > > > \d Just want to throw this thought out here.....my wife goes to college and many of her courses require web access to Pearson's Course Compass. Course Compass uses Shockwave. Shockwave is not available to Linux. I have contacted both the Shockwave folks and Course Compass folks for increased compatibility. Sometimes you need a 20-ton dump truck to move a penny. I don't own such equipment. However, this Shockwave thingie and Coourse Compass is what is holding me up in moving my wife's laptop to Kubuntu. The only solution I know of at my immediate disposal is Firefox in WINE with the Shockwave plugin. If you two folk (or anyone else) know a better solution to this issue I am sure a bunch of us would like to know. Larry From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 15:09:26 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:09:26 -0700 Subject: kontact summary view In-Reply-To: <200711280550.44180.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <256f4e900711271447u78b83f64j64ae59eede59c7df@mail.gmail.com> <200711280550.44180.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <474D84A6.8050701@gmail.com> Donn said the following at 11/27/2007 08:50 PM : >> h I have an appointment tomorrow, >> and a To-Do item, neither of them in the respective parts of the > If you're life is coming-apart then try kalarm instead -- it's a real nice > alarm/reminder/script runner gui. I never could make head nor tails of > kontact. No, I was just trying to figure out if I'm the only one with this problem (in which case I'd try to figure out why my setup is somehow different) or whether others have this problem (in which case I'll file a bug report). Kontact is one of those things that has always seemed to be a possibly good idea but there have always been too many bugs in prior versions, notably in the calendar. Even since Sunbird's capabilities regressed after version 0.2a I've been looking for a calendar that is rock solid. The current calendar in kontact seems to be OK (so far), so I'm strongly considering using it as a kind of "home base", but it would be nice (albeit not exactly necessary) to have the summary view working properly. Doc From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 15:15:37 2007 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:15:37 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711280611.38600.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711280611.38600.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: <474D8619.20801@gmail.com> Larry Hartman wrote: > On Tuesday 27 November 2007 11:46:13 pm Donn wrote: > >>> My point is that there is no need to run Firefox on wine in Linux. >>> >> Too true -- all you get out the other end is Drunkfox. >> >> >> \d >> > > Just want to throw this thought out here.....my wife goes to college and many > of her courses require web access to Pearson's Course Compass. Course > Compass uses Shockwave. Shockwave is not available to Linux. I have > contacted both the Shockwave folks and Course Compass folks for increased > compatibility. Sometimes you need a 20-ton dump truck to move a penny. I > don't own such equipment. > > However, this Shockwave thingie and Coourse Compass is what is holding me up > in moving my wife's laptop to Kubuntu. The only solution I know of at my > immediate disposal is Firefox in WINE with the Shockwave plugin. If you two > folk (or anyone else) know a better solution to this issue I am sure a bunch > of us would like to know. > > > Larry > > Maybe the IEs4linux could help you out there? Not that I recommend but if it helps her out of the "win"dows world then why not?? Sinclair From benjamin.heil at bheil.net Wed Nov 28 15:18:43 2007 From: benjamin.heil at bheil.net (benjamin.heil at bheil.net) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:18:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: gutsy and keyboard volume keys... In-Reply-To: <474C5ED7.70607@wanadoo.fr> References: <474C5ED7.70607@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <62047.84.56.92.92.1196263123.squirrel@ssl.bheil.net> Hi, I had the same problem a few days ago and solved it by using dcop. I described my solution in my blog. Its in german, but I think there's enough info to get it like you want. Look here: http://www.bheil.net/software/multimedia-tasten-unter-kde-zum-laufen-bringen/ Short description: * Check with "xev" whether the keys are working (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys) * Check on the command line with dcop kmix Mixer0 increaseVolume 2 whether you're able to increase the volume manually. (Perhaps you must change the "2", this is the number of the primary channel) * Set this as a new shortcut for your multimedia key in kcontrol (e.g. this way: http://downloads.bheil.net/images/dcop_kmix_big.png) Cheers     Benjamin > Hi, > > I finally upgraded and am facing my first gutsy problem : I can't use > anymore my keyboard volume keys. > Indeed, when I do use them, I can see the volume beeing changed between > 0 and 11% (in one step), but I can't get the volume higher than 11%, > which I don't understand. > > First thing to notice is that the volume is not 0 or 11%, but it is > about 75% and not changing with the keys. > > Whatever master channel I choose right clicking on the kmix icon, I have > this strange limit on 11% (well, actually the volume is not changed at > all, there is just the display)... > > Any help would be apreciated here :] > Cheers > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From qrazydutch at operamail.com Wed Nov 28 15:48:24 2007 From: qrazydutch at operamail.com (Leendert Hubertha Stuyt) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:48:24 +0100 Subject: locked data base Message-ID: <20071128154824.DC3D2CA0A6@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> Brand new LINUX user. Below newbie..................looooooooooow...deeper than whale doo doo. So, I upgraded using the instructions but my latest kernel crashes. When I go to the previous version on my menu, loads OK however my data base is locked. In addition to the fact that i dont know what that means (I think something is blocking it, could it be the latest upgrade or attempt thereto)...will unlocking it allow another upgrade to fix this thing? and yes, I am a Window user looking for salvation thanks for your time Qrazydutch (with a Q so the real nuts wont get upset) -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From jjesse at iserv.net Wed Nov 28 16:01:42 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:01:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <474B97A3.9010301@wilddsl.net.au> <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3102.64.186.55.234.1196265702.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> > Good evening, >> > >> > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I >> couldn't >> > figure out which one would be better to post to. >> > >> > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I >> > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am >> running >> > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web >> is >> > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. >> > >> > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and >> > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick >> of >> > trying to deal with. >> > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the >> images >> > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane >> > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am >> told >> > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash >> > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I >> > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning >> and >> > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the >> font >> > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page >> that >> > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what >> I'm >> > filling out. >> > >> > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or >> > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just >> work" >> > there. >> >> Konqueror, when operating as a web-browser, is simple and >> underpowered compared to Firefox etc.. >> >> It sounds like the solution for you might be to >> install the win32 version of Firefox and install the >> flash plugin. >> Here's how I did it: >> >> 1) I got the latest version of Wine. >> Quite recently I went to the Wine website for the >> latest version, and I noticed it's a newer version >> than the one in Adept. I looked at the change history >> between the versions and saw all just bug fixes. >> So I installed the newer version. >> (I think I added the Wine website to my package sources >> list and then used Adept...?) >> >> 2) I got the Win32 version of Mozilla Firefox. >> I browsed to the Firefox download page in Konqueror and configured >> Konqueror Browser Identification to be Internet Explorer on >> Windows so that the Mozilla website diplays the Windows version >> to download. >> >> 3) Then I ran the Firefox setup executable in the console: >> >> wine "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.9.exe" >> >> You should now have a Firefox icon to click. (I chose to >> make one myself.) >> >> Hope that helps, >> >> Anton. > > You run the windows version of Fx in wine? You are aware that you can > run 32 bit Firefox on a 64 bit system, no? > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-× -ס-×¢-×£-פ-×¥-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Wow its been an interesting converstation in regards to my email. Half the people seem to be using Konqi and the other half recommend Firefox. Maybe I'll install FF and see where things are at -- Jonathan Jesse From jjesse at iserv.net Wed Nov 28 16:01:47 2007 From: jjesse at iserv.net (Jonathan Jesse) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:01:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen Message-ID: <3111.64.186.55.234.1196265707.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Jonathan Jesse wrote: >> > Good evening, >> > >> > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I >> couldn't >> > figure out which one would be better to post to. >> > >> > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I >> > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am >> running >> > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web >> is >> > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. >> > >> > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and >> > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick >> of >> > trying to deal with. >> > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the >> images >> > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane >> > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am >> told >> > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash >> > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I >> > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning >> and >> > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the >> font >> > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page >> that >> > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what >> I'm >> > filling out. >> > >> > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or >> > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just >> work" >> > there. >> >> Konqueror, when operating as a web-browser, is simple and >> underpowered compared to Firefox etc.. >> >> It sounds like the solution for you might be to >> install the win32 version of Firefox and install the >> flash plugin. >> Here's how I did it: >> >> 1) I got the latest version of Wine. >> Quite recently I went to the Wine website for the >> latest version, and I noticed it's a newer version >> than the one in Adept. I looked at the change history >> between the versions and saw all just bug fixes. >> So I installed the newer version. >> (I think I added the Wine website to my package sources >> list and then used Adept...?) >> >> 2) I got the Win32 version of Mozilla Firefox. >> I browsed to the Firefox download page in Konqueror and configured >> Konqueror Browser Identification to be Internet Explorer on >> Windows so that the Mozilla website diplays the Windows version >> to download. >> >> 3) Then I ran the Firefox setup executable in the console: >> >> wine "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.9.exe" >> >> You should now have a Firefox icon to click. (I chose to >> make one myself.) >> >> Hope that helps, >> >> Anton. > > You run the windows version of Fx in wine? You are aware that you can > run 32 bit Firefox on a 64 bit system, no? > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-× -ס-×¢-×£-פ-×¥-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Wow its been an interesting converstation in regards to my email. Half the people seem to be using Konqi and the other half recommend Firefox. Maybe I'll install FF and see where things are at -- Jonathan Jesse From qrazydutch at operamail.com Wed Nov 28 16:03:21 2007 From: qrazydutch at operamail.com (Leendert Hubertha Stuyt) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:03:21 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen Message-ID: <20071128160321.5BAF2CA0A4@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> Mongo mumbles firefox works for me.......... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Jesse" > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:01:42 -0500 (EST) > > > > > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > >> > Good evening, > >> > > >> > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I > >> couldn't > >> > figure out which one would be better to post to. > >> > > >> > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > >> > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am > >> running > >> > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web > >> is > >> > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > >> > > >> > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > >> > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick > >> of > >> > trying to deal with. > >> > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the > >> images > >> > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > >> > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am > >> told > >> > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > >> > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > >> > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning > >> and > >> > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the > >> font > >> > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page > >> that > >> > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what > >> I'm > >> > filling out. > >> > > >> > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > >> > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just > >> work" > >> > there. > >> > >> Konqueror, when operating as a web-browser, is simple and > >> underpowered compared to Firefox etc.. > >> > >> It sounds like the solution for you might be to > >> install the win32 version of Firefox and install the > >> flash plugin. > >> Here's how I did it: > >> > >> 1) I got the latest version of Wine. > >> Quite recently I went to the Wine website for the > >> latest version, and I noticed it's a newer version > >> than the one in Adept. I looked at the change history > >> between the versions and saw all just bug fixes. > >> So I installed the newer version. > >> (I think I added the Wine website to my package sources > >> list and then used Adept...?) > >> > >> 2) I got the Win32 version of Mozilla Firefox. > >> I browsed to the Firefox download page in Konqueror and configured > >> Konqueror Browser Identification to be Internet Explorer on > >> Windows so that the Mozilla website diplays the Windows version > >> to download. > >> > >> 3) Then I ran the Firefox setup executable in the console: > >> > >> wine "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.9.exe" > >> > >> You should now have a Firefox icon to click. (I chose to > >> make one myself.) > >> > >> Hope that helps, > >> > >> Anton. > > > > You run the windows version of Fx in wine? You are aware that you can > > run 32 bit Firefox on a 64 bit system, no? > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-× -ס-×¢-×£-פ-×¥-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > Wow its been an interesting converstation in regards to my email. Half > the people seem to be using Konqi and the other half recommend Firefox. > Maybe I'll install FF and see where things are at > -- > Jonathan Jesse > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com Powered by Outblaze From Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com Wed Nov 28 16:18:29 2007 From: Timothy.Tipton at pxd.com (Tipton, Timothy) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:18:29 -0600 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474CBC48.90807@wilddsl.net.au> Message-ID: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B9603778D07@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> > Oops, I'm on 32-bit and missed that the original poster's machine > is 64-bit. I don't know how well Firefox for Windows runs on 64-bit. What exactly is the purpose of running Firefox for windows on Linux? Am I missing something here? Thanks, Tim From benjamin.heil at bheil.net Wed Nov 28 16:45:53 2007 From: benjamin.heil at bheil.net (Benjamin Heil) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:45:53 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <3111.64.186.55.234.1196265707.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <3111.64.186.55.234.1196265707.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <200711281745.53631.benjamin.heil@bheil.net> Also try opera. You must include the "partners"-repos to install it (just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line). It's not open source but the fastest browser in my opinion. And opera has a lot of nice features .... Am Mittwoch 28 November 2007 17:01:47 schrieb Jonathan Jesse: > > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Jonathan Jesse wrote: > >> > Good evening, > >> > > >> > I know I probablly shouldn't be posting this to both lists, but I > >> > >> couldn't > >> > >> > figure out which one would be better to post to. > >> > > >> > I am getting frustrated with using Konqueror as my default browser. I > >> > don't know if I just have some problems, or its the fact that I am > >> > >> running > >> > >> > 64-bit Kubuntu, but it is getting to the point that browsing the web > >> > >> is > >> > >> > just easier, and more fun in Internet Explorer. > >> > > >> > I know that Google and GMail don't always play nice with Konqueror and > >> > have lived to accept it, but it is other sites that I am getting sick > >> > >> of > >> > >> > trying to deal with. > >> > I can to a page, an example being Facebook, and not get all of the > >> > >> images > >> > >> > or all of the links to work. I go to a travel site to book airplane > >> > tickets and get to use the "basic" settings, I go to a page and am > >> > >> told > >> > >> > flash is not installed when I do have the non-free version of flash > >> > installed or even better I click on a link and nothing happens until I > >> > click on the link 3 or 4 times and finally the "gear" starts spinning > >> > >> and > >> > >> > I get the page I want. Another fun problem is when I increase the > >> > >> font > >> > >> > size the text blurs together and I can't read it.... or go to a page > >> > >> that > >> > >> > has a form and the text runs into the form so I don't really know what > >> > >> I'm > >> > >> > filling out. > >> > > >> > Is it just that I need to switch to Firefox on my Kubuntu install? Or > >> > should I stick to browsing the web in my XP VM, cause things "just > >> > >> work" > >> > >> > there. > >> > >> Konqueror, when operating as a web-browser, is simple and > >> underpowered compared to Firefox etc.. > >> > >> It sounds like the solution for you might be to > >> install the win32 version of Firefox and install the > >> flash plugin. > >> Here's how I did it: > >> > >> 1) I got the latest version of Wine. > >> Quite recently I went to the Wine website for the > >> latest version, and I noticed it's a newer version > >> than the one in Adept. I looked at the change history > >> between the versions and saw all just bug fixes. > >> So I installed the newer version. > >> (I think I added the Wine website to my package sources > >> list and then used Adept...?) > >> > >> 2) I got the Win32 version of Mozilla Firefox. > >> I browsed to the Firefox download page in Konqueror and configured > >> Konqueror Browser Identification to be Internet Explorer on > >> Windows so that the Mozilla website diplays the Windows version > >> to download. > >> > >> 3) Then I ran the Firefox setup executable in the console: > >> > >> wine "Firefox Setup 2.0.0.9.exe" > >> > >> You should now have a Firefox icon to click. (I chose to > >> make one myself.) > >> > >> Hope that helps, > >> > >> Anton. > > > > You run the windows version of Fx in wine? You are aware that you can > > run 32 bit Firefox on a 64 bit system, no? > > > > Dotan Cohen > > > > http://what-is-what.com > > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-× -ס-×¢-×£-פ-×¥-צ-ק-× > >¨-ש-ת > > > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Wow its been an interesting converstation in regards to my email. Half > the people seem to be using Konqi and the other half recommend Firefox. > Maybe I'll install FF and see where things are at > -- > Jonathan Jesse From nigel at rmk.co.il Wed Nov 28 16:48:58 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:48:58 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B9603778D07@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B9603778D07@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <474D9BFA.8060006@rmk.co.il> Tipton, Timothy wrote: >> Oops, I'm on 32-bit and missed that the original poster's machine >> is 64-bit. I don't know how well Firefox for Windows runs on 64-bit. > > What exactly is the purpose of running Firefox for windows on Linux? Am > I missing something here? > > Thanks, > Tim > So he can run Shockwave -- which isn't available for Linux -yet (see: http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html) Also: http://www.ubuntux.org/shockwave-player-ubuntu-linux Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From donn.ingle at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 16:58:33 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:58:33 +0200 Subject: locked data base In-Reply-To: <20071128154824.DC3D2CA0A6@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20071128154824.DC3D2CA0A6@ws5-11.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200711281858.33134.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Brand new LINUX user. Below newbie..................looooooooooow...deeper > than whale doo doo. Cheer up :) > So, I upgraded using the instructions but my latest kernel crashes. Can you give us some more details? > When I > go to the previous version on my menu, loads OK however my data base is > locked. Again, some detail about what the error message is would help us to help you. > and yes, I am a Window user looking for salvation I hope we can figure it out, it's horrible not to be able to boot. \d From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 28 16:43:31 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:43:31 -0400 Subject: setting konq default view References: <256f4e900711231436p54a14b6cnca55831180f60ed7@mail.gmail.com> <474780E3.10305@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711240915r2b574578wa83aa18fdd6770e1@mail.gmail.com> <4748F9C7.1090904@wilddsl.net.au> <256f4e900711270955o6c4961fcg3feded292c4400d4@mail.gmail.com> <474C5FFF.8080709@fastmail.fm> <474C9100.3040307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3967044.BrVAoYlDS5@cedar.serverforest.com> D. R. Evans wrote: > Karl said the following at 11/27/2007 11:20 AM : >> Did you miss the reply from Derek Broughton? This actually works: >> > > I saw it late yesterday, then forgot about it, and when I made the mistake > of looking at my mail with gmail instead of Thunderbird this morning, it > compressed Derek's e-mail on the screen so I didn't remember that he'd > sent something that sounded helpful. > > And yes, it does work. Thank you so much Derek for providing the answer, > and Karl for reminding me. LOL. That about sums up my usual experience when somebody gives me good advice that I'm not in a position to take advantage of immediately :-) -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 28 16:41:18 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:41:18 -0400 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711270952.01487.kubuntu@mekanix.dk> <200711272338.14214.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7068822.Y1l3su9rcf@cedar.serverforest.com> Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Tue 27 November 2007 09:52, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: >> >> It's quite interesting to read the responses to your post. I've been >> using Konqueror as my primary browser for the last 6-7 years. And I think >> it is doing really well. Though once in a while I encounter a >> non-standard-compliant (aka IE-only) website for which I then use >> Firefox. >> >> So I'd say Konqueror is one of the best standard-compliant websites and >> my "web-sphere" apparently consist of mostly standard-compliant websites! >> :-) > > I second that. I only use FireFox for my web bank. Web banking is notoriously bad (probably because - and I have personal experience here) banks have a bad tendency to use their in-house mainframe developers to build web sites. Nevertheless, my bank's services all work with konqueror. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 28 16:47:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:47:00 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> <474C09FB.8040907@mike-leone.com> <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071127222718.GT6166@localhost> Message-ID: <299099007.uhLO5kBSe0@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/27/07 at > 10:35: >> Mike Leone wrote: >> >> > Nils Kassube wrote: >> >> Bill Vance wrote: >> >>> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: >> >>> >> >>> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 >> >> >> >> As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to >> >> recovery mode now. >> > >> > That's one of the reasons why I always put a password on "root", and >> > use "su". YMMV. >> >> Pretty weak. He only got this way by doing things he shouldn't - so >> you'd like to make it easier to do things you shouldn't... > > "Shouldn't"? Using "su" is pretty standard Linux practice. That's not what caused his problem. Simply using sudo or su doesn't mess up the permissions on /etc/sudoers. Somebody had to have done that ... > And everyone > should have the freedom to run their system the way they like, don't you > think? Of course they should - I just don't think it's a good idea to advise somebody to bypass a good security feature when they aren't doing very well with security in the first place. Rebooting in single-user mode after screwing up sudoers is a _very_ small price to pay. > You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want > to. You certainly don't, but you don't have to offer a suicidal person a rope with a pre-made noose, either. -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Wed Nov 28 16:54:58 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:54:58 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711280135.RAA19204@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <1242750.TfN7SOFag4@cedar.serverforest.com> Bill Vance wrote: > Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/27/07 at > 10:35: No, I didn't. Please try to keep the attributions straight. >>You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want >>to. > > Which brings up something I've been noticing. I've gone through running > an Amiga dos UUCP site with a Unix style shell, to three upgrades of > Caldera > Linux, to one of SUSE, and now Kubuntu. While the past systems, (and > Kubuntu as well), all had a bit of a learning curve, this is the first > time I've got the feeling of, "We're not going to let you do this, just > because we don't like it that way, so there!" There's no paternalism going on here. It's _really_ easy to enable a root prompt. It is, in my own opinion, a Really Bad Idea, but Ubuntu in no way prevents you from doing stupid things. Ubuntu doesn't say "you can't do this", it simply doesn't enable a root account because it isn't necessary and it's a security hole. > Then I noticed that the system tends to lose > track of who is doing what when one of the available shells is being run > by "root". In other words, you can't do a really long, complex, > job of some sort as root, and take an occaisional email break, (or > whatever), in another shell > as, "user", without things getting a little kinky. I'll refrain from > trying to deduce which is caused by which, (maybe it's something else, > entirely). Could you give some examples? I just don't understand what you're suggesting - whether using "su" or "sudo", "the system" keeps track of "who is doing what" perfectly well - certainly no worse than any other linux. Additionally, with sudo, it logs that... (btw, both su and sudo exist on RedHat-based systems, and as far as I can see are identical to Ubuntu's). -- derek From john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org Wed Nov 28 18:41:26 2007 From: john-ubuntu at fjellstad.org (John L Fjellstad) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:41:26 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711280611.38600.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> Message-ID: <87sl2q5i21.fsf@fjellstad.org> Larry Hartman writes: > However, this Shockwave thingie and Coourse Compass is what is holding > me up in moving my wife's laptop to Kubuntu. The only solution I know > of at my immediate disposal is Firefox in WINE with the Shockwave > plugin. If you two folk (or anyone else) know a better solution to > this issue I am sure a bunch of us would like to know. Codeweavers (http://www.codeweavers.com/) has working Windows plugins working through Wine. Shockwave seem to be working: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=98 -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes From paul at lemmons.name Wed Nov 28 19:40:57 2007 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:40:57 -0700 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <87sl2q5i21.fsf@fjellstad.org> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711280611.38600.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <87sl2q5i21.fsf@fjellstad.org> Message-ID: <474DC449.3090005@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re:Feeling like a 2nd class citizen From: John L Fjellstad To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: 11/28/2007 11:41 AM > Larry Hartman writes: > > >> However, this Shockwave thingie and Coourse Compass is what is holding >> me up in moving my wife's laptop to Kubuntu. The only solution I know >> of at my immediate disposal is Firefox in WINE with the Shockwave >> plugin. If you two folk (or anyone else) know a better solution to >> this issue I am sure a bunch of us would like to know. >> > > Codeweavers (http://www.codeweavers.com/) has working Windows plugins > working through Wine. Shockwave seem to be working: > http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=98 > > I have no idea whether this will help generate interest at Macromedia or not but it certainly will not hurt... http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html -- Sometimes I wonder. Were our faith able to stand upright and look around, would it be looking down at the mustard seed or standing in awe of the height and breadth of it. From fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr Wed Nov 28 19:49:16 2007 From: fred.schaer at wanadoo.fr (Fred Schaer) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:49:16 +0100 Subject: gutsy and keyboard volume keys... In-Reply-To: <62047.84.56.92.92.1196263123.squirrel@ssl.bheil.net> References: <474C5ED7.70607@wanadoo.fr> <62047.84.56.92.92.1196263123.squirrel@ssl.bheil.net> Message-ID: <474DC63C.8010900@wanadoo.fr> Thanks, I'll try this... It looks like the bug is already known, I guess a fix will be released later : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeutils/+bug/154492 Cheers benjamin.heil at bheil.net a écrit : > Hi, > > I had the same problem a few days ago and solved it by using dcop. I > described my solution in my blog. Its in german, but I think there's > enough info to get it like you want. Look here: > > http://www.bheil.net/software/multimedia-tasten-unter-kde-zum-laufen-bringen/ > > Short description: > > * Check with "xev" whether the keys are working > (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys) > > * Check on the command line with > > dcop kmix Mixer0 increaseVolume 2 > > whether you're able to increase the volume manually. (Perhaps you must > change the "2", this is the number of the primary channel) > > * Set this as a new shortcut for your multimedia key in kcontrol (e.g. this > way: http://downloads.bheil.net/images/dcop_kmix_big.png) > > Cheers > > Benjamin > > >> Hi, >> >> I finally upgraded and am facing my first gutsy problem : I can't use >> anymore my keyboard volume keys. >> Indeed, when I do use them, I can see the volume beeing changed between >> 0 and 11% (in one step), but I can't get the volume higher than 11%, >> which I don't understand. >> >> First thing to notice is that the volume is not 0 or 11%, but it is >> about 75% and not changing with the keys. >> >> Whatever master channel I choose right clicking on the kmix icon, I have >> this strange limit on 11% (well, actually the volume is not changed at >> all, there is just the display)... >> >> Any help would be apreciated here :] >> Cheers >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > > > From tanghus at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 20:10:39 2007 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:10:39 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <7068822.Y1l3su9rcf@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711272338.14214.tanghus@gmail.com> <7068822.Y1l3su9rcf@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711282110.41622.tanghus@gmail.com> On Wed 28 November 2007 17:41, Derek Broughton wrote: > Thomas Olsen wrote: > > I second that. I only use FireFox for my web bank. > > Web banking is notoriously bad (probably because - and I have personal > experience here) banks have a bad tendency to use their in-house mainframe > developers to build web sites. Nevertheless, my bank's services all work > with konqueror. My bank uses a common system that many banks in Denmark uses. The login screen etc. uses Java applets and I think the error is because KJAS doesn't support persistent cookies. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Thomas Olsen If you live long enough, you'll see that every victory turns into a defeat. -- Simone de Beauvoir From bach.michael at gmx.net Wed Nov 28 20:34:40 2007 From: bach.michael at gmx.net (Michael Bach (gmx)) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:34:40 +0100 Subject: Desktop search, which one? Message-ID: <474DD0E0.2040903@gmx.net> Hello all, for years now I keep building up my library of research publications, mostly pdf's, rest ps's, very little html. Over the years, I tried various ways of organizing them, none of them worked properly. To cut a long story short, the whole thing is a mess. The only way I see me coping with this chaos is a search system. One of the "must have" features is a proper indexing of pdf's and ps'. On the "good to have" side would be a query language which allows granular control over the results (boolean term combinations, exclusion of terms, filetypes, ...). I would buy these, especially the first requirement, on expense of indexing speed. I can totally neglect the initial index creation time. Also, since the directories in question are mainly static, with only a few additions a month, I could run a scheduled indexing every fortnight or so over night. I tried strigi for a day. Index creation took it's time but I didn't mind. However, I was under the impression that it didn't like many of my pdf's an lots of the ps's? Hence, it's all gone the "aptitude purge strigi-*"-way Before playing around with some other search system (I guess beagle would be next), can someone please give me some advice on search systems good on pdf and ps files. Or maybe there is even a better way to get my pdf-ps-chaos sorted. regards, Mike. From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Nov 28 21:18:27 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:18:27 -0500 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <3102.64.186.55.234.1196265702.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> <3102.64.186.55.234.1196265702.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> Message-ID: <200711281618.28522.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 11:01:42 am Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > Wow its been an interesting converstation in regards to my email. Half > the people seem to be using Konqi and the other half recommend Firefox. > Maybe I'll install FF and see where things are at I guess that will make me the tie-breaker. I use Konqi, don't even have Mozilla installed. -- David M. I think we are in Rats' Alley where the dead men lost their bones. -- T.S. Eliot From d.mcglone at att.net Wed Nov 28 21:35:40 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:35:40 -0500 Subject: OS suggestions In-Reply-To: <200711271024.53363.mlsoft@videotron.ca> References: <200711270628.40055.d.mcglone@att.net> <200711271024.53363.mlsoft@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <200711281635.41373.d.mcglone@att.net> On Tuesday 27 November 2007 10:24:53 am Martin Laberge wrote: > On November 27, 2007 06:28:39 David McGlone wrote: > Use Xubuntu, you will get a good performance on old machines > and you can run almost any kde or gnome apps on it. I think I'll try this option first, since I'm trying to stick to the Ubuntu line. -- David M. You will be a winner today. Pick a fight with a four-year-old. >>LOL Good one any 4 year olds on this list?<< From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Wed Nov 28 23:08:52 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:08:52 -0600 Subject: HD load/unload cycles Message-ID: <474DF504.6090306@cern.ch> Hi, I would like to know how (if) is everybody dealing with the bug reported at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 I tried the hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda fix. But I was thinking about set "hdparm -B 128 /dev/sda" when running on battery. I really hope a common fix will be released soon also for feisty...I don't think that the user shoud deal with these technical issues. Cheers and thanks, G From dotancohen at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 23:33:15 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:33:15 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <474D8619.20801@gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711280611.38600.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <474D8619.20801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <880dece00711281533p1fbb4095t24486e2cdaaae4e@mail.gmail.com> On 28/11/2007, O. Sinclair wrote: > Maybe the IEs4linux could help you out there? Not that I recommend but > if it helps her out of the "win"dows world then why not?? That is a worse solution that Fx in wine. It still has the wine, but adds IE into the equation. What is the address of the site in question? I'll write to them as well. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com Wed Nov 28 23:48:19 2007 From: grahamtodd2 at googlemail.com (Graham) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:48:19 +0000 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711281618.28522.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711270802k17ca5aabn8fcfca387e42263@mail.gmail.com> <3102.64.186.55.234.1196265702.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711281618.28522.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <20071128234819.3441b88a@graham-desktop> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:18:27 -0500 David McGlone wrote: > On Wednesday 28 November 2007 11:01:42 am Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > > > Wow its been an interesting converstation in regards to my email. > > Half the people seem to be using Konqi and the other half recommend > > Firefox. Maybe I'll install FF and see where things are at > > I guess that will make me the tie-breaker. I use Konqi, don't even > have Mozilla installed. > > You might like to look at Opera.... -- Graham Todd From d.mcglone at att.net Thu Nov 29 01:11:03 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:11:03 -0500 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <20071128234819.3441b88a@graham-desktop> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711281618.28522.d.mcglone@att.net> <20071128234819.3441b88a@graham-desktop> Message-ID: <200711282011.06040.d.mcglone@att.net> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 6:48:19 pm Graham wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:18:27 -0500 > > David McGlone wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 November 2007 11:01:42 am Jonathan Jesse wrote: > > > > On 27/11/2007, Anton Rolls wrote: > > > > > > Wow its been an interesting converstation in regards to my email. > > > Half the people seem to be using Konqi and the other half recommend > > > Firefox. Maybe I'll install FF and see where things are at > > > > I guess that will make me the tie-breaker. I use Konqi, don't even > > have Mozilla installed. > > You might like to look at Opera.... What's so great about it? -- David M. Things past redress and now with me past care. -- William Shakespeare, "Richard II" From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 02:22:58 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:22:58 -0500 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711282011.06040.d.mcglone@att.net> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711281618.28522.d.mcglone@att.net> <20071128234819.3441b88a@graham-desktop> <200711282011.06040.d.mcglone@att.net> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711281822t3e197f0eo19752af60e1cbafd@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 28, 2007 8:11 PM, David McGlone wrote: > On Wednesday 28 November 2007 6:48:19 pm Graham wrote: > > You might like to look at Opera.... > > What's so great about it? The great Fravia+ prefers Opera. This is from one of his (older) pages on the subject of choosing a browser (it is mainly about the harms of IE): http://www.searchlores.org/tuttiope.htm ------ Fravia says: I think that Opera is the best browser out there, and that the only possible alternative would be Firefox. But in order to have Firefox work almost as well as Opera, you will have to work heavily on its configuration. And Opera is still quicker, hence "the best". This said, the point with a browser is to understand that "best" is relative: BEST FOR WHAT? Best for a old PC with limited memory? Best for your Ipaq or Palm? Best for handicapped users? Best for searching? Best for security? Best without a mouse? Best for anonimity? ----------------------------------------- The whole page is really more focused on the dangers of IE. Having used Opera before (on a comp with 64 MB of RAM and a 200 MHz processor), I can say that it worked well and was a very fast browser (after about 30 seconds for it to open). But I guess browser preference just comes down to what you are used to; are you really going to switch browsers just because Opera is a little faster than Firefox at loading pages (which I _think_ is still factual)? Some people just like Opera (fravia+). Some people like Firefox (me). Some people like Konqi (Derek). Some people like IE (naive). Some people even like lynx (no idea who). Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Nov 29 02:28:49 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:28:49 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Can't seem to reinstall grub Message-ID: <474E23E1.7000409@mike-leone.com> So I have this Dell Inspiron 600m laptop that dual boots Windows and Kubuntu. Through my own stupidity, I needed to completely remake my Windows partition, and so of course I lost grub. So I boot with a Knoppix CD, and do this: (I booted into text mode) fdisk -l -> I see that /dev/hda1 is WinXP, and /dev/hda2 is Linux (with /dev/hda5 as swap). That's all the partitions. Pretty simple, no? No ... mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/hda2 /mnt chroot /mnt grub-install /dev/hda -> which tells me that /dev/hda: Not found or not a block device. So, thinking that perhaps Knoppix likes specifying things as UNIONFS, I retry, using /UNIONFS/dev/hda all the way through. Still no joy. Then I try grub root (hd0,1) -> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist Then I tried (still in grub): find /boot/grub/stage1 Error 15: File not found Anyone? I can read /boot/grub/menu.lst, where it says "root (hd0,1)". I just can't seem to fix grub ... Thanks From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Nov 29 03:00:37 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:00:37 -0500 Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <299099007.uhLO5kBSe0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> <474C09FB.8040907@mike-leone.com> <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071127222718.GT6166@localhost> <299099007.uhLO5kBSe0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <474E2B55.9040909@mike-leone.com> Derek Broughton wrote: >> And everyone >> should have the freedom to run their system the way they like, don't you >> think? > > Of course they should - I just don't think it's a good idea to advise > somebody to bypass a good security feature when they aren't doing very well > with security in the first place. Rebooting in single-user mode after > screwing up sudoers is a _very_ small price to pay. I advised no one to do anything. I stated what I did, and why. And said YMMV. The OP is quite free to ignore what I say or suggest, if he didn't like what I had to say. As everyone is, really. >> You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want >> to. > > You certainly don't, but you don't have to offer a suicidal person a rope > with a pre-made noose, either. Oh, please. Some perspective, Derek. "suicidal" LOL From stew.schneider at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 03:19:27 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:19:27 -0500 Subject: Postfix help needed Message-ID: <474E2FBF.4090704@gmail.com> I'd like to have cron jobs notify me at my gmail account when they run. Googling around I installed mailx and postfix. The postfix installation established main.cf as: > # See /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, more complete > version > > > # Debian specific: Specifying a file name will cause the first > # line of that file to be used as the name. The Debian default > # is /etc/mailname. > #myorigin = /etc/mailname > > smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) > biff = no > > # appending .domain is the MUA's job. > append_dot_mydomain = no > > # Uncomment the next line to generate "delayed mail" warnings > #delay_warning_time = 4h > > # TLS parameters > smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem > smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key > smtpd_use_tls=yes > smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache > smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache > > # See /usr/share/doc/postfix/TLS_README.gz in the postfix-doc package for > # information on enabling SSL in the smtp client. > > myhostname = stewart > alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases > alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases > mydestination = stewart at localhost, stewart, localhost.localdomain, > localhost > relayhost = > mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 > mailbox_size_limit = 0 > recipient_delimiter = + > inet_interfaces = loopback-only The machine is not part of a domain -- it's just an elderly Gateway sitting on a shaky desk before an elderly fat man. hostname is stewart. I don't get no stinkin' email, and the more I Google, the confuseder I get. Can someone untangle me? stew From spwhite at freesurf.ch Wed Nov 28 17:22:16 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:22:16 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <1683362.V8T5S30U7X@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <1683362.V8T5S30U7X@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Tuesday 27 November 2007 21:45, Derek Broughton wrote: > Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > > I followed that thread with interest, usually use Konk, but switcht to > > firefox if I need. > > Perhaps I will implement the strategie suggested by Derek "Change > > Browser Identification" [tells you how whicked some corporations are !] > > (it is not the first time I read about that). > > To be fair, it's not usually "wicked", it's just sloppy. They write > javascript that needs to use specific work-arounds for different browsers, > instead of just using non-browser specific code - or using a product like > prototype or dojo which takes it out of your hands. > -- > derek Thanks Derek, Nils and Dotan, Derek, do you mean a site will format the data differently for different browsers, but if that site is tricked into beliving it is sending to another browser, the result may be better? (no sarcasm on my part, I'm just very ignorant on this topic) ______________________________________ Nils wrote: > May I suggest you use an obviously fake browser ID? Something like IE 11.3 > on Mac OSX. Until now i found no site that didn't accept it. they seem to > only look for MSIE with a number >= 5 Seriously you tried that, declaring your browser is as IE 11.3 (the only one of its kind, I guess), with better results as when declaring it as Konk? ____________________________________________________ Dotan wrote: > Why not adapt a parallel strategy and write to those responsible for > the websites in question? I have found that most websites, large and > small, are in fact willing to make the necessary changes once enough > people ask them to. I would consider that strategy If I were certain the problem comes from them and not from me, but I'm way to ignorant. For example when I install some codecs and then Firefox is able to display a video but not Konq, can I blame the website or did I just fail to make Konq aware of this codec? Another example is when a site appears to have different codings for the "background" page and some text it displays in an "inner window". By changing the coding I can get the correct representation of the french accentuated characters on the outer or inner parts, but not both together. (Now I am sorry I missed the opportunity to mark that link and look it up under M$) Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #340: Well fix that in the next (upgrade, update, patch release, service pack) From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Nov 29 04:38:34 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:38:34 -0500 Subject: Can't seem to reinstall grub - SOLVED In-Reply-To: <474E3862.7010103@mike-leone.com> References: <20071129033047.53a4747f@osx10.v-system.net> <474E3862.7010103@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <474E424A.1030107@mike-leone.com> Mike Leone wrote: Got it. Booted Kubuntu 7.10 sudo mkdir /mnt/root sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/root sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/root/proc sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/root/dev sudo chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash sudo grub find /boot/grub/stage1 --> NOW grub finds the file root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) And then it all Just Worked. So I needed to mount proc and dev (which I hadn't done, the first few times I tried to fix things). See Thanks all From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Nov 29 04:57:27 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:57:27 -0500 Subject: Samba - leave samba domain and join AD? Message-ID: <474E46B7.3040002@mike-leone.com> So I have Samba running as PDC, and I have my Kubuntu laptop joined to it. Now I've installed a Win2003 AD domain at home. And I seem to be having trouble leaving the SAMBA domain, and joining the AD domain. This laptop is the last member of that SAMBA domain. I can probably just nuke the smb.conf on the laptop, but thought I'd try doing it the "right" way (by leaving the one domain, and joining the other. But I can't seem to find docs or howtos on how to leave a domain, or what I need for joining a Win2003 AD. samba 3.0.26a Any pointers appreciated. From nigel at rmk.co.il Thu Nov 29 06:27:28 2007 From: nigel at rmk.co.il (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:27:28 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <880dece00711281533p1fbb4095t24486e2cdaaae4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <880dece00711272329j7e9fe238je74ecd576d3c609a@mail.gmail.com> <200711280946.13913.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711280611.38600.larryhartman50@vzavenue.net> <474D8619.20801@gmail.com> <880dece00711281533p1fbb4095t24486e2cdaaae4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474E5BD0.2000109@rmk.co.il> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 28/11/2007, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Maybe the IEs4linux could help you out there? Not that I recommend but >> if it helps her out of the "win"dows world then why not?? > > That is a worse solution that Fx in wine. It still has the wine, but > adds IE into the equation. > > What is the address of the site in question? I'll write to them as well. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? I use IEs4linux only to test web pages that I author. Blessings, Nigel -- OliveRoot Ministries http://www.oliveroot.net/ PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ From balazs at rainstorm.org Thu Nov 29 07:12:50 2007 From: balazs at rainstorm.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?H=E9der_Bal=E1zs?=) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:12:50 +0100 Subject: Change file association in KDE In-Reply-To: <474D5587.5040608@stdin.me.uk> References: <20071128121559.sut2gfhhk40gggs4@rainstorm.org> <474D5587.5040608@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200711290812.51284.balazs@rainstorm.org> Hi, > Settings > Configure Konqueror > File Associations Thank you, it works! :) Balazs Heder From kassube at gmx.net Thu Nov 29 07:04:50 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:04:50 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <1683362.V8T5S30U7X@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200711290804.50596.kassube@gmx.net> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Nils wrote: > > May I suggest you use an obviously fake browser ID? Something like IE > > 11.3 on Mac OSX. Until now i found no site that didn't accept it. > > they seem to only look for MSIE with a number >= 5 > > Seriously you tried that, declaring your browser is as IE 11.3 (the > only one of its kind, I guess), with better results as when declaring > it as Konk? Yes, while I don't always use the same number, I definitely use a nonexistant IE version number :) The problem is that some sites only give you an error page if your browser doesn't identify as IE. But of course I use Konqueror to display the page which is no real problem. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Thu Nov 29 07:15:54 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:15:54 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Can't seem to reinstall grub In-Reply-To: <474E23E1.7000409@mike-leone.com> References: <474E23E1.7000409@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <200711290815.54615.kassube@gmx.net> Mike Leone wrote: > So I have this Dell Inspiron 600m laptop that dual boots Windows and > Kubuntu. Through my own stupidity, I needed to completely remake my > Windows partition, and so of course I lost grub. > > So I boot with a Knoppix CD, and do this: (I booted into text mode) > > fdisk -l > -> I see that /dev/hda1 is WinXP, and /dev/hda2 is Linux (with > /dev/hda5 as swap). That's all the partitions. Pretty simple, no? Which version of Kubuntu are you talking about? If it is Gutsy (or I think Feisty as well), there is no more /dev/hda but it is now /dev/sda even if it is really an IDE drive. If you use the Live CD of the Kubuntu version installed on your harddisk you can see the correct device name with your fdisk command. Nils From kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk Thu Nov 29 09:10:29 2007 From: kubuntu at mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:10:29 +0000 Subject: Fwd: Can't seem to reinstall grub In-Reply-To: <200711290815.54615.kassube@gmx.net> References: <474E23E1.7000409@mike-leone.com> <200711290815.54615.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711290910.30064.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> On Thursday 29 November 2007 07:15:54 Nils Kassube wrote: > Mike Leone wrote: > > So I have this Dell Inspiron 600m laptop that dual boots Windows and > > Kubuntu. Through my own stupidity, I needed to completely remake my > > Windows partition, and so of course I lost grub. > > > > So I boot with a Knoppix CD, and do this: (I booted into text mode) > > > > fdisk -l > > -> I see that /dev/hda1 is WinXP, and /dev/hda2 is Linux (with > > /dev/hda5 as swap). That's all the partitions. Pretty simple, no? > > Which version of Kubuntu are you talking about? If it is Gutsy (or I think > Feisty as well), there is no more /dev/hda but it is now /dev/sda even if > it is really an IDE drive. If you use the Live CD of the Kubuntu version > installed on your harddisk you can see the correct device name with your > fdisk command. Are you sure about that? My IDE drive is still mounted as /dev/hd?? $ mount /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755) varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw) /dev/hda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw) /dev/sda1 on /home type ext3 (rw) securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Thu Nov 29 09:15:48 2007 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:15:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <299099007.uhLO5kBSe0@cedar.serverforest.com> from "Derek Broughton" at Nov 28, 2007 12:47:00 PM Message-ID: <200711290915.BAA21462@xpresso.seaslug.org> On Wed Nov 28 08:47:00 2007 Derek Broughton wrote: >Mike Leone wrote: > >> Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/27/07 at >> 10:35: >>> Mike Leone wrote: >>> >>> > Nils Kassube wrote: >>> >> Bill Vance wrote: >>> >>> Ok, I tried, "sudo ls", and got: >>> >>> >>> >>> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0740, should be 0440 >>> >> >>> >> As you can't use the sudo command any more, I think you should boot to >>> >> recovery mode now. >>> > >>> > That's one of the reasons why I always put a password on "root", and >>> > use "su". YMMV. >>> >>> Pretty weak. He only got this way by doing things he shouldn't - so >>> you'd like to make it easier to do things you shouldn't... >> >> "Shouldn't"? Using "su" is pretty standard Linux practice. > >That's not what caused his problem. Simply using sudo or su doesn't mess up >the permissions on /etc/sudoers. Somebody had to have done that ... > >> And everyone >> should have the freedom to run their system the way they like, don't you >> think? > >Of course they should - I just don't think it's a good idea to advise >somebody to bypass a good security feature when they aren't doing very well >with security in the first place. Rebooting in single-user mode after >screwing up sudoers is a _very_ small price to pay. > >> You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want >> to. > >You certainly don't, but you don't have to offer a suicidal person a rope >with a pre-made noose, either. >-- >derek FYI, It was nothing I deliberately did. It was something the system did, while I was doing something else, entirely. Adept Manager seems quite buggy on this end, and that's straight out of the distro box, including some effect or other on just about everything. Text install was the only one that worked, and I'm still wondering what to do about some of the hard drive partitions it didn't get right, some device that Adept Manager can't open, and a number of other weirdies. Bill -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Thu Nov 29 09:25:28 2007 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:25:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Setup woes In-Reply-To: <1242750.TfN7SOFag4@cedar.serverforest.com> from "Derek Broughton" at Nov 28, 2007 12:54:58 PM Message-ID: <200711290925.BAA21545@xpresso.seaslug.org> On Wed Nov 28 08:54:58 2007 Derek Broughton wrote: >Bill Vance wrote: > >> Derek Broughton (news at pointerstop.ca) had this to say on 11/27/07 at >> 10:35: > >No, I didn't. Please try to keep the attributions straight. > >>>You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want >>>to. >> >> Which brings up something I've been noticing. I've gone through running >> an Amiga dos UUCP site with a Unix style shell, to three upgrades of >> Caldera >> Linux, to one of SUSE, and now Kubuntu. While the past systems, (and >> Kubuntu as well), all had a bit of a learning curve, this is the first >> time I've got the feeling of, "We're not going to let you do this, just >> because we don't like it that way, so there!" > >There's no paternalism going on here. It's _really_ easy to enable a root >prompt. It is, in my own opinion, a Really Bad Idea, but Ubuntu in no way >prevents you from doing stupid things. Ubuntu doesn't say "you can't do >this", it simply doesn't enable a root account because it isn't necessary >and it's a security hole. > >> Then I noticed that the system tends to lose >> track of who is doing what when one of the available shells is being run >> by "root". In other words, you can't do a really long, complex, >> job of some sort as root, and take an occaisional email break, (or >> whatever), in another shell >> as, "user", without things getting a little kinky. I'll refrain from >> trying to deduce which is caused by which, (maybe it's something else, >> entirely). > >Could you give some examples? I just don't understand what you're >suggesting - whether using "su" or "sudo", "the system" keeps track of "who >is doing what" perfectly well - certainly no worse than any other linux. >Additionally, with sudo, it logs that... (btw, both su and sudo exist on >RedHat-based systems, and as far as I can see are identical to Ubuntu's). >-- >derek I mentioned some problems with the distro in my just previous reply. I'll bring up some details as I get around to dealling with each. Too many things going on at one time just makes everything more confusing. Bill -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 09:30:07 2007 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:30:07 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <1683362.V8T5S30U7X@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <880dece00711290130l40cded93kc8d797515674716c@mail.gmail.com> On 28/11/2007, Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Dotan wrote: > > Why not adapt a parallel strategy and write to those responsible for > > the websites in question? I have found that most websites, large and > > small, are in fact willing to make the necessary changes once enough > > people ask them to. > I would consider that strategy If I were certain the problem comes from them > and not from me, but I'm way to ignorant. Then you can contact me off list and I'll check it out. I used to run http://IE-Only.com which was a resource for dealing with sites that required IE. I have contacted hundreds of webmasters and have seen lots of change. > For example when I install some codecs and then Firefox is able to display a > video but not Konq, can I blame the website or did I just fail to make Konq > aware of this codec? Codec for video content? I would not blame the website. A good place to start checking for who's to blame is at the W3C's Markup Validation Service: http://validator.w3.org/ It's not 100%, but it is a great start. > Another example is when a site appears to have different codings for the > "background" page and some text it displays in an "inner window". > By changing the coding I can get the correct representation of the french > accentuated characters on the outer or inner parts, but not both together. > (Now I am sorry I missed the opportunity to mark that link and look it up > under M$) In English it's called the "encoding" not "coding". Yes, you can blame the webpage for that. They are most likely using a Microsoft encoding of the CP variety. I have much experience in this as well, as I run the Hebrew-language http://gibberish.co.il which translates wrongly encoded text. Write to the webmaster in these cases and request that they use UTF-8 in all places. UTF-8 will never cause gibberish problems like you mention. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From kassube at gmx.net Thu Nov 29 09:49:32 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:49:32 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Can't seem to reinstall grub In-Reply-To: <200711290910.30064.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> References: <474E23E1.7000409@mike-leone.com> <200711290815.54615.kassube@gmx.net> <200711290910.30064.kubuntu@mfraz74.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711291049.32203.kassube@gmx.net> Mark Fraser wrote: > On Thursday 29 November 2007 07:15:54 Nils Kassube wrote: > > Mike Leone wrote: > > > So I have this Dell Inspiron 600m laptop that dual boots Windows > > > and Kubuntu. Through my own stupidity, I needed to completely > > > remake my Windows partition, and so of course I lost grub. > > > > > > So I boot with a Knoppix CD, and do this: (I booted into text mode) > > > > > > fdisk -l > > > -> I see that /dev/hda1 is WinXP, and /dev/hda2 is Linux (with > > > /dev/hda5 as swap). That's all the partitions. Pretty simple, no? > > > > Which version of Kubuntu are you talking about? If it is Gutsy (or I > > think Feisty as well), there is no more /dev/hda but it is now > > /dev/sda even if it is really an IDE drive. If you use the Live CD of > > the Kubuntu version installed on your harddisk you can see the > > correct device name with your fdisk command. > > Are you sure about that? My IDE drive is still mounted as /dev/hd?? Sorry if that was wrong. Now that you ask, I'm not so sure any more. As I don't have access to the machine with IDE drive where I installed Gutsy last month, I can't check it. Nils From whitover-1 at btconnect.com Thu Nov 29 12:15:09 2007 From: whitover-1 at btconnect.com (John Hansen) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:15:09 +0000 Subject: Guide to Kubuntu filing needed Message-ID: <474EAD4D.4050300@btconnect.com> I mainly use Kubuntu to access the Internet. I would like to use it for other purposes but am unsure about the folders and file system which varies from Windows. Is there a straight forward guide which will help me understand this? John From turgon at mike-leone.com Thu Nov 29 12:38:07 2007 From: turgon at mike-leone.com (Mike Leone) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:38:07 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Can't seem to reinstall grub In-Reply-To: <200711290815.54615.kassube@gmx.net> References: <474E23E1.7000409@mike-leone.com> <200711290815.54615.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <474EB2AF.6070401@mike-leone.com> Nils Kassube wrote: > Mike Leone wrote: >> So I have this Dell Inspiron 600m laptop that dual boots Windows and >> Kubuntu. Through my own stupidity, I needed to completely remake my >> Windows partition, and so of course I lost grub. >> >> So I boot with a Knoppix CD, and do this: (I booted into text mode) >> >> fdisk -l >> -> I see that /dev/hda1 is WinXP, and /dev/hda2 is Linux (with >> /dev/hda5 as swap). That's all the partitions. Pretty simple, no? > > Which version of Kubuntu are you talking about? I wasn't talking about Kubuntu at that point; I was booting with Knoppix (which I had at hand, as I couldn't easily locate my Kubuntu CD). Knoppix shows my HD as /dev/hda. From philbieber at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 12:39:00 2007 From: philbieber at gmail.com (Phil Bieber) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:39:00 +0100 Subject: Guide to Kubuntu filing needed In-Reply-To: <474EAD4D.4050300@btconnect.com> References: <474EAD4D.4050300@btconnect.com> Message-ID: <3b27fa9d0711290439g3534284cr307257873ca099fd@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 29, 2007 1:15 PM, John Hansen wrote: > I mainly use Kubuntu to access the Internet. I would like to use it for > other purposes but am unsure about the folders and file system which > varies from Windows. > Is there a straight forward guide which will help me understand this? > > John > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi! Basically, everything underneath /home/ is at your disposal and you can save stuff there. Just pay attention to the folders starting with a dot ( . ) because they normally refer to application settings and ought to be left alone. Furthermore, here are a few examples of folders: / -> The Root Directory, everything resides underneath this root. /home/ -> Directories for user-data /bin/ and many other folders containing "bin" -> executables are stored or linked here, when you type a command in a shell (like the Dos-Box in Windows), it searches these folders for programs. /etc/ -> Contains system-wide configurations for services, and administrative tools and such, and settigns that are the same for all users. I hope that helps you, if not, don't hesitate to come back, and ask again! Have a good day! Cheers Philipp Bieber -- Are there any experienced suicide bombers? You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me. GPG KEY ID: 7C26EE5B0185E301 FINGERPRINT: CA81 28C2 E63F DAF8 5ED4 DACB 7C26 EE5B 0185 E301 From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Thu Nov 29 13:15:18 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:15:18 +0000 Subject: Guide to Kubuntu filing needed In-Reply-To: <474EAD4D.4050300@btconnect.com> References: <474EAD4D.4050300@btconnect.com> Message-ID: <474EBB66.2040306@tiscali.co.uk> John Hansen wrote: > I mainly use Kubuntu to access the Internet. I would like to use it for > other purposes but am unsure about the folders and file system which > varies from Windows. > Is there a straight forward guide which will help me understand this? > > John > > Try - a good place to start. There are links on the page for more detailed reading if you need such. :@) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 29 13:18:57 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:18:57 -0400 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <1683362.V8T5S30U7X@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <2918511.xPaBJ3Cgc1@cedar.serverforest.com> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Derek, do you mean a site will format the data differently for different > browsers, but if that site is tricked into beliving it is sending to > another browser, the result may be better? Exactly. It's very common for the javascript in a web page to begin with something like: if (some-test-that-shows-I'm-running-IE) { execute-IE-code } else { execute-Netscape-code } The "else" part of that statement tends to change: sometimes it just assumes that anything that isn't IE works like Netscape, which is usually a safe bet (but not always). Other times it checks if it's actually Netscape, and if not might just refuse to work at all. > Seriously you tried that, declaring your browser is as IE 11.3 (the only > one of its kind, I guess), with better results as when declaring it as > Konk? Sure. The test (which I didn't actually put in the code above, because I no longer ever use it) checks the "user-agent" strings the browsers report, and commonly needs to know if you're running IE whether it's version 4, 5, or 6+ (and presumably we'll start seeing stuff written to specifically use features of 7, now). So if you just lie and tell it you're running the uber-IE, it's always going to assume it's got the latest and greatest IE features. I don't find identifying as IE - any version - terribly useful on most sites, because the script then starts trying to do things that no sane browser _can_ do. >> Why not adapt a parallel strategy and write to those responsible for >> the websites in question? I have found that most websites, large and >> small, are in fact willing to make the necessary changes once enough >> people ask them to. > I would consider that strategy If I were certain the problem comes from > them and not from me, but I'm way to ignorant. > > For example when I install some codecs and then Firefox is able to display > a video but not Konq, can I blame the website or did I just fail to make > Konq aware of this codec? I'd say that's _always_ the coder's problem. Somebody sent me a link the other day to a Yahoo site that wouldn't display in either Konqueror or Firefox - but it quite clearly told me what was missing from the configurations. Since I have never needed those plugins before, I just waited until I was in the office and used IE :-) but I'm sure I could have followed the instructions and got Firefox working. So if a site fails to work under your favorite browser, whatever that is - and doesn't at least tell you _why_ , tell the site administrator. If enough people start doing that, they _will_ fix it. > Another example is when a site appears to have different codings for the > "background" page and some text it displays in an "inner window". > By changing the coding I can get the correct representation of the french > accentuated characters on the outer or inner parts, but not both together. > (Now I am sorry I missed the opportunity to mark that link and look it up > under M$) I'd _definitely_ complain about that - that's almost always because those of us building websites in English don't have enough internationalized test data. I got a complaint yesterday that a page was displaying a square box instead of an e-acute, and when I checked my data it was the only accented character on the whole database. Obviously, since I'm dealing with French-Canadian names, I should expect to encounter a few! -- derek From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 29 13:30:05 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:30:05 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <200711271101.DAA18308@xpresso.seaslug.org> <200711271254.59115.kassube@gmx.net> <474C09FB.8040907@mike-leone.com> <1436535.9UCRzkfeyI@cedar.serverforest.com> <20071127222718.GT6166@localhost> <299099007.uhLO5kBSe0@cedar.serverforest.com> <474E2B55.9040909@mike-leone.com> Message-ID: <1312321.Qbr1VrbT0m@cedar.serverforest.com> Mike Leone wrote: > Derek Broughton wrote: > >>> You don't *have* to follow all things the Ubuntu way, if you don't want >>> to. >> >> You certainly don't, but you don't have to offer a suicidal person a rope >> with a pre-made noose, either. > > Oh, please. Some perspective, Derek. "suicidal" LOL It was _supposed_ to be "LOL". It's an extreme example, but I'm trying to make a point. The OP was clearly doing things with sudo that he didn't understand - but at least once he fixes sudo, he can go through the sudo logs and find out what he did (unless he was using "sudo -i" or similar). Using su, he'll never know. -- derek From jesus at roncero.org Thu Nov 29 13:37:41 2007 From: jesus at roncero.org (Jesus Roncero) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:37:41 +0000 Subject: weird keyboard shortcuts Message-ID: <20071129133741.333c117e@abejaruco> Hi guys, I've just installed a ubuntu 7.10 system and then installed the kubuntu-desktop package to get all the stuff from kubuntu. Everything runs fine, but I've found that it has some weirds keyboard shortcuts. For examples, pressing the windows key, launches kmail, and pressing the caps locks, launches the "find files" program. I've having a look at the control panel, but I am failing to see where this is configured. Anyone having the same problem? Thanks. -- Jesús Roncero From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 29 13:21:25 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:21:25 -0400 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711271924.31628.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <1683362.V8T5S30U7X@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <880dece00711290130l40cded93kc8d797515674716c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1624921.oid48VJ43P@cedar.serverforest.com> Dotan Cohen wrote: > Codec for video content? I would not blame the website. A good place > to start checking for who's to blame is at the W3C's Markup Validation > Service: > http://validator.w3.org/ > > It's not 100%, but it is a great start. That's a very good point. If you can tell the webmaster that a page doesn't validate at w3.org, you don't always even need to utter the dreaded word "Linux", you can just say something to the effect that "page http://xxxx" doesn't work properly in some browsers, and according to http://validator.w3.org/ it is not syntactically correct". -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 13:47:39 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:47:39 +0200 Subject: weird keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20071129133741.333c117e@abejaruco> References: <20071129133741.333c117e@abejaruco> Message-ID: <200711291547.39142.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > For examples, pressing the windows key, launches kmail, and pressing > the caps locks, launches the "find files" program. I've having a look > at the control panel, but I am failing to see where this is configured. > Anyone having the same problem? Very strange. Try right-click the K menu and go to the menu editor. Look around at the apps that are launching and see what their shortcut keys are. You can also fish around in the control panel. \d From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 29 13:39:35 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:39:35 -0400 Subject: Setup woes References: <299099007.uhLO5kBSe0@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711290915.BAA21462@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <9434793.xYb63IMH9J@cedar.serverforest.com> Bill Vance wrote: > > It was something the system did, I'm not trying to find fault, but I find that extremely unlikely. If "the system" would change the privilege on /etc/sudoers, we'd have heard this same story countless times. My bet is that at some point you tried to change read permission on some or all files in /etc, and that broke sudo. If you haven't been using commands to put yourself into a root shell like "sudo -i" or "sudo -s": grep sudo /var/log/auth.log should show the command that broke it as the last line before you fixed the permissions. Note, anyone who's been using Linux for more than a few weeks, has surely done more damage to his system than merely screwing up the permissions on /etc/sudoers... -- derek From stdin at stdin.me.uk Thu Nov 29 14:13:14 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:13:14 +0000 Subject: Guide to Kubuntu filing needed In-Reply-To: <474EAD4D.4050300@btconnect.com> References: <474EAD4D.4050300@btconnect.com> Message-ID: <474EC8FA.4040004@stdin.me.uk> John Hansen wrote: > I mainly use Kubuntu to access the Internet. I would like to use it for > other purposes but am unsure about the folders and file system which > varies from Windows. > Is there a straight forward guide which will help me understand this? > > John > > This is another good overview from the Ubuntu comminity: Terence From jriddell at ubuntu.com Thu Nov 29 17:32:29 2007 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:32:29 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu Meeting Saturday 11UTC Message-ID: <20071129173228.GJ18441@muse.19inch.net> A Kubuntu meeting is happening this Saturday at 11UTC in #ubuntu-meeting on freenode. Add your agenda items here and come along. http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings Are you an under-recognised Kubuntu contributor? Do consider going for membership at the meeting. https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NewMemberHowto Jonathan From spwhite at freesurf.ch Thu Nov 29 18:08:10 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:08:10 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <2918511.xPaBJ3Cgc1@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711281822.16935.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <2918511.xPaBJ3Cgc1@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711291908.10961.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Thanks again Derek, Nils and Dotan, that was wery instructive. To my question > > Derek, do you mean a site will format the data differently for different > > browsers, but if that site is tricked into beliving it is sending to > > another browser, the result may be better? Derek replied: > Exactly. (snip) > I don't find identifying as IE - any version - terribly useful > on most sites, because the script then starts trying to do things that no > sane browser _can_ do. Nils replied: > Yes, while I don't always use the same number, I definitely use a > nonexistant IE version number. Some slight divergences above, or things I didn't fully understand. I am not yet sure that the best thing to do is to change (once and for all) the way my browsers identify themselves. I conclude that if neither Konq nor Firefox work I can try that trick. Dotan said: (snip) > http://validator.w3.org/ I appreciate that you are fighting for a cause (or many), and offered your help for solving cases. In spite of my laziness I will try to join you on this cause. Unless I am overburdened by the other causes I am also fighting for, or by trivial things, I will try to keep an eye on non compiant sites and see if I can act, with or without your help. Flagging your mails as important and saving them in a "non volatile" folder. Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #100: IRQ dropout From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 18:24:33 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:24:33 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711291908.10961.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <2918511.xPaBJ3Cgc1@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711291908.10961.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200711292024.33723.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > I am not yet sure that the best thing to do is to change (once and for > all) the way my browsers identify themselves. > I conclude that if neither Konq nor Firefox work I can try that trick. > An idea: If you use Firefox, you can simultaneously use many "profiles" that can each have totally different settings. Actually, I am not sure if settings like browser identification will work this way, but you can try: Hit Alt-F2 and type [firefox -a blah] without the brackets. (There is a bug in the stock Firefox as of Gutsy (at least) and the usual command is [firefox -ProfileManager] so adjust as you need.) Use the dialogue that opens to add a new profile. Then Start that profile. Go change the settings as you need for that profile and test it out. (In future run FF with the -a blah to get the choice dialogue.) You *should* be able to use that new profile for those few sites that just plain suck. HTH \d From kassube at gmx.net Thu Nov 29 18:52:05 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:52:05 +0100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <200711291908.10961.spwhite@freesurf.ch> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <2918511.xPaBJ3Cgc1@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711291908.10961.spwhite@freesurf.ch> Message-ID: <200711291952.05635.kassube@gmx.net> Sylviane et Perry White wrote: > Nils replied: > > Yes, while I don't always use the same number, I definitely use a > > nonexistant IE version number. > > Some slight divergences above, or things I didn't fully understand. > I am not yet sure that the best thing to do is to change (once and for > all) the way my browsers identify themselves. > I conclude that if neither Konq nor Firefox work I can try that trick. Well, my standard browser identification is of course Konqueror. However, if I find a site which really behaves mad and only gives an error message, I change the setting for this site alone. BTW: I think with Konqueror itself you can only use existing IE versions - I use WWWOFFLE for it. Looking at the relevant config file, it seems to be >1 year ago that I used that trick. Maybe today most webmasters have found out that there are other browsers on the market. Furthermore, Dotans approach of complaining to the webmasters is probably the best way to eliminate those discriminating sites. Nils From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 29 18:47:26 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:47:26 -0400 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <2918511.xPaBJ3Cgc1@cedar.serverforest.com> <200711291908.10961.spwhite@freesurf.ch> <200711292024.33723.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1849680.rTnODFpbgy@cedar.serverforest.com> Donn wrote: >> I am not yet sure that the best thing to do is to change (once and for >> all) the way my browsers identify themselves. >> I conclude that if neither Konq nor Firefox work I can try that trick. >> > An idea: > If you use Firefox, you can simultaneously use many "profiles" that can > each have totally different settings. Actually, I am not sure if settings > like browser identification will work this way, but you can try: In Konqueror, it's easier. When you hit a site that doesn't work, you just click on the Toad's rear-end icon, and tell it what to identify as. You can make that apply to the specific page, or to all pages at that site (well, that's what it says, but it really looks to me as if it only works at the domain level - which seems sufficient, anyway). Or you can go deeper into the configuration, where you can do things like making all or some subdomains behave the same way. -- derek From donn.ingle at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 20:05:58 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:05:58 +0200 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <1849680.rTnODFpbgy@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <52116.206.67.164.78.1196131930.squirrel@webmail.iserv.net> <200711292024.33723.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <1849680.rTnODFpbgy@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711292205.58899.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > deeper into the configuration, where you can do things like making all or > some subdomains behave the same way. Cool, I didn't know that. \d From troworld at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 20:50:52 2007 From: troworld at gmail.com (Tro) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:50:52 -0500 Subject: weird keyboard shortcuts In-Reply-To: <20071129133741.333c117e@abejaruco> References: <20071129133741.333c117e@abejaruco> Message-ID: <200711291550.52445.troworld@gmail.com> On Thursday 29 November 2007, Jesus Roncero wrote: > I've just installed a ubuntu 7.10 system and then installed the > kubuntu-desktop package to get all the stuff from kubuntu. Everything > runs fine, but I've found that it has some weirds keyboard shortcuts. > > For examples, pressing the windows key, launches kmail, and pressing > the caps locks, launches the "find files" program. I've having a look > at the control panel, but I am failing to see where this is configured. > Anyone having the same problem? Besides what Donn said, also see which keyboard layout you're using. Maybe that's affecting it. Tro From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 21:11:39 2007 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:11:39 -0700 Subject: Postfix help needed In-Reply-To: <474E2FBF.4090704@gmail.com> References: <474E2FBF.4090704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <474F2B0B.7090801@gmail.com> Stew Schneider said the following at 11/28/2007 08:19 PM : > I'd like to have cron jobs notify me at my gmail account when they run. > Googling around I installed mailx and postfix. The postfix installation > established main.cf as: > >> # See /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, more complete >> version >> >> >> # Debian specific: Specifying a file name will cause the first >> # line of that file to be used as the name. The Debian default >> # is /etc/mailname. >> #myorigin = /etc/mailname >> >> smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) >> biff = no >> >> # appending .domain is the MUA's job. >> append_dot_mydomain = no >> >> # Uncomment the next line to generate "delayed mail" warnings >> #delay_warning_time = 4h >> >> # TLS parameters >> smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem >> smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key >> smtpd_use_tls=yes >> smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache >> smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache >> >> # See /usr/share/doc/postfix/TLS_README.gz in the postfix-doc package for >> # information on enabling SSL in the smtp client. >> >> myhostname = stewart >> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases >> alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases >> mydestination = stewart at localhost, stewart, localhost.localdomain, >> localhost >> relayhost = >> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 >> mailbox_size_limit = 0 >> recipient_delimiter = + >> inet_interfaces = loopback-only > The machine is not part of a domain -- it's just an elderly Gateway > sitting on a shaky desk before an elderly fat man. hostname is stewart. > I don't get no stinkin' email, and the more I Google, the confuseder I get. > > Can someone untangle me? You have stumbled on what is, to my mind, the most arcanely configured program in the history of UNIX. (Well, sendmail takes that honour, but postfix is the modern equivalent.) I don't understand why there isn't some GUI-based configuration program for postfix (maybe there is and I've just never found it), because the number of possibilities and inter-related options in postfix cries out for a GUI to make sense of everything. I have a couple of machines here using postfix, but neither set up is exactly the same as you want, so I won't start by posting my configuration files, which would just confuse things (at this point, I simply copy working configurations when I install postfix on a new machine, because I don't remember enough about how I first got things to work several years ago). Anyway: Question #1: are you sure that postfix is running? (ps auxw | grep postfix) Question #2: what do you get when you examine the mail queue (mailq) Question #3: what kinds of things do you see in the mail log (the various /var/log/mail* files) That should give us something to work with -- or at least to guess where to start. Doc From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 21:51:43 2007 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?VWxyaWNoIEdyw7xu?=) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:51:43 +0100 Subject: Newbie: kernel/init messages at boot times ? Message-ID: <474F346F.6040602@googlemail.com> Dear list, I'm used to SuSE and Debian for quite a long time. With that distributions, when I start (and power off) the computer, I get the kernel and init messages on tty1. With (K)Ubuntu (7.10), this feature has been disabled. I already changed the kernel options in 'menu.lst' and removed the 'silent' option (which resulted in a little information, but not exactly what I'm looking for) Furthermore, when I press F2 (and others) during boot time and return to tty1, that screen has become black. All the other tty's are black as well and I cannot log in into bash of one of the tty's. Has anybody figured out how to solve this? It would be ideal if the messaging was like Debian/SuSE. Thanks, Ulrich. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø WU WEI The Sage is occupied with the unspoken, and acts without effort. Teaching without verbosity, producing without possessing, creating without regard to result, claiming nothing, the Sage has nothing to lose. [Tao Te Ching, by Priya Hemenway] ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø From kaj at haulrich.net Thu Nov 29 22:22:52 2007 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:22:52 +0100 Subject: Newbie: kernel/init messages at boot times ? In-Reply-To: <474F346F.6040602@googlemail.com> References: <474F346F.6040602@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <20071129222100.NZVM29908.fep40.mail.dk@haulrich.local> On Thursday 29 November 2007 22:51:43 Ulrich Grün wrote: > Dear list, > > I'm used to SuSE and Debian for quite a long time. With that > distributions, when I start (and power off) the computer, I get > the kernel and init messages on tty1. With (K)Ubuntu (7.10), this > feature has been disabled. I already changed the kernel options > in 'menu.lst' and removed the 'silent' option (which resulted in > a little information, but not exactly what I'm looking for) > > Furthermore, when I press F2 (and others) during boot time > and return to tty1, that screen has become black. All the other > tty's are black as well and I cannot log in into bash of one of > the tty's. > > Has anybody figured out how to solve this? It would be ideal if > the messaging was like Debian/SuSE. > > Thanks, > Ulrich. In /boot/grub/menu.lst remove 'quiet' and 'splash'. My line ends with: "ro vga=791" (in order to make the scroll-by slower). Kaj Haulrich. -- *** Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer *** ********* Running Linux (Kubuntu 7.04) ********* From stew.schneider at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 22:50:58 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:50:58 -0500 Subject: Postfix help needed In-Reply-To: <474F2B0B.7090801@gmail.com> References: <474E2FBF.4090704@gmail.com> <474F2B0B.7090801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <474F4252.6040600@gmail.com> D. R. Evans wrote: > You have stumbled on what is, to my mind, the most arcanely configured > program in the history of UNIX. (Well, sendmail takes that honour, but > postfix is the modern equivalent.) > OK...I'm REALLY in deep water. After I posted, but before you did, I put the problem aside and went to clean out my spam box in Gmail. There I found all my test messages. Haven't a clue how I did it, but my theory is that any landing you can walk away from.... stew From L.Hanson at bom.gov.au Thu Nov 29 22:54:31 2007 From: L.Hanson at bom.gov.au (Lawson Hanson) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:54:31 +1100 Subject: ADSL on eth0 not working on HP 6720s with Kubuntu 7.10 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Message-ID: I have just installed Kubuntu 7.10 on my HP 6720s notebook PC, and while most things appear to work, I'm having trouble getting onto the internet via a hardwired ADSL modem connected to the eth0 (hard-wired) port The hardware works OK on Windows Vista, so I do not think there is any problem there; but in Kubuntu the Network Manager program does not permit me to enter the URL of my ISP and the required user name and password, etc. My ISP connection works fine on Kubuntu 7.04 running on another PC, but not on Kubuntu 7.10 running on the HP Compaq 6720s notebook PC I tried running "pppoeconf", but it did not seem to be able to find any network connection to work with; I forget the exact message it displayed, but it tried "eth0" (the hard-wired port) and "eth1" (a wireless port) and failed to find anything it could use ... something about "access concentrator", and then just gave up, i.e., exited back to the command line If anyone has any advice regarding how to get networking running on the HP 6720s notebook PC, I shall be delighted to hear from you Best regards, Lawson Hanson From stew.schneider at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 23:07:39 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:07:39 -0500 Subject: Postfix help needed In-Reply-To: <474F2B0B.7090801@gmail.com> References: <474E2FBF.4090704@gmail.com> <474F2B0B.7090801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <474F463B.9030006@gmail.com> D. R. Evans wrote: > Anyway: > > Question #1: are you sure that postfix is running? (ps auxw | grep postfix) > Question #2: what do you get when you examine the mail queue (mailq) > Question #3: what kinds of things do you see in the mail log (the various > /var/log/mail* files) > > That should give us something to work with -- or at least to guess where to > start. So this won't be a complete waste of your time, I wonder if you could educate me a bit? I followed the instructions at http://prantran.blogspot.com/2007/01/getting-postfix-to-work-on-ubuntu-with.html down to the wrap up. I didn't quite follow what he was saying, but now understand that he was saying I should follow the instructions at http://www.kirranet.co.nz/content/howto-relay-email-using-ubuntu,-postfix-and-gmail which included installation of a Thawte cert. I didn't do that, but my system mail wound up in my gmail inbox nonetheless. The problem is that I don't understand how the various pieces fit together well enough, so I'm prowling in the dark. Q1: Postfix is running in three processes Q2: mailq reports no mail Q3:/var/log/mail.err has Nov 27 23:37:06 Stewart sSMTP[15326]: 553 Stewart.adelphia.net does not exist Nov 28 22:23:10 Stewart postfix/postfix-script[18789]: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions, upgrade-configuration) mail.err.0 similarly complains about Stewart.adelphia.net mail.info has quite a lot: Nov 27 23:37:06 Stewart sSMTP[15326]: 553 Stewart.adelphia.net does not exist Nov 27 23:47:39 Stewart postfix/master[15673]: daemon started -- version 2.4.5, configuration /etc/postfix Nov 27 23:54:28 Stewart postfix/pickup[15677]: 2EEDE10761: uid=1000 from= Nov 27 23:54:28 Stewart postfix/cleanup[15696]: 2EEDE10761: message-id=<20071128045428.2EEDE10761 at Stewart> Nov 27 23:54:28 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 2EEDE10761: from=, size=285, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 27 23:54:28 Stewart postfix/cleanup[15696]: 3EC4C10762: message-id=<20071128045428.2EEDE10761 at Stewart> Nov 27 23:54:28 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 3EC4C10762: from=, size=400, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 27 23:54:28 Stewart postfix/local[15698]: 2EEDE10761: to=, orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.12, delays=0.08/0.02/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (forwarded as 3EC4C10762) Nov 27 23:54:28 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 2EEDE10761: removed Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/smtp[15699]: 3EC4C10762: to=, orig_to=, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.185.114]:25, delay=4.2, delays=0.01/0.02/0.64/3.5, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.185.114] said: 550-5.7.1 [75.81.209.182] The IP you're using to send email is not authorized 550-5.7.1 to send email directly to our servers. Please use 550 5.7.1 the SMTP relay at your service provider instead. 32si3573573wri (in reply to end of DATA command)) Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/cleanup[15696]: 738D810761: message-id=<20071128045432.738D810761 at Stewart> Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 738D810761: from=<>, size=2602, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/cleanup[15696]: 7766810763: message-id=<20071128045432.738D810761 at Stewart> Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/bounce[15702]: 3EC4C10762: sender non-delivery notification: 738D810761 Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 3EC4C10762: removed Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 7766810763: from=<>, size=2720, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/local[15698]: 738D810761: to=, relay=local, delay=0.02, delays=0.01/0/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (forwarded as 7766810763) Nov 27 23:54:32 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 738D810761: removed Nov 27 23:54:36 Stewart postfix/smtp[15699]: 7766810763: to=, orig_to=, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.185.114]:25, delay=3.8, delays=0.01/0/0.3/3.5, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1196225676 31si3925508wri) Nov 27 23:54:36 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 7766810763: removed Nov 27 23:55:03 Stewart postfix/pickup[15677]: 1854F10761: uid=1000 from= Nov 27 23:55:03 Stewart postfix/cleanup[15696]: 1854F10761: message-id=<20071128045503.1854F10761 at Stewart> Nov 27 23:55:03 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 1854F10761: from=, size=311, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 27 23:55:03 Stewart postfix/cleanup[15696]: 1F22A10744: message-id=<20071128045503.1854F10761 at Stewart> Nov 27 23:55:03 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 1F22A10744: from=, size=428, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Nov 27 23:55:03 Stewart postfix/local[15698]: 1854F10761: to=, relay=local, delay=0.04, delays=0.03/0/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (forwarded as 1F22A10744) Nov 27 23:55:03 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 1854F10761: removed Nov 27 23:55:06 Stewart postfix/smtp[15699]: 1F22A10744: to=, orig_to=, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[64.233.185.114]:25, delay=3.8, delays=0.01/0/0.31/3.5, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1196225706 29si81861wrl) Nov 27 23:55:06 Stewart postfix/qmgr[15678]: 1F22A10744: removed Nov 28 11:17:52 Stewart postfix/master[15673]: reload configuration /etc/postfix Nov 28 11:17:53 Stewart postfix/master[15673]: reload configuration /etc/postfix Nov 28 11:18:38 Stewart postfix/master[15673]: reload configuration /etc/postfix Nov 28 22:02:40 Stewart postfix/master[15673]: terminating on signal 15 Now, since I have no cert, how is gmail accepting my mail?? (a very confused) stew From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 29 23:26:02 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:26:02 -0400 Subject: Postfix help needed References: <474E2FBF.4090704@gmail.com> <474F2B0B.7090801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1679025.9a602nc7Na@cedar.serverforest.com> D. R. Evans wrote: > You have stumbled on what is, to my mind, the most arcanely configured > program in the history of UNIX. (Well, sendmail takes that honour, but > postfix is the modern equivalent.) I think it applies to MTAs in general > I don't understand why there isn't some GUI-based configuration program > for postfix (maybe there is and I've just never found it), because the > number of possibilities and inter-related options in postfix cries out for > a GUI to make sense of everything. I used to hang out on the exim developers list, and the answer to that is that MTA developers believe that GUIs are evil. The prevailing opinion was that if you make it easy to configure mail, idiots will be configuring mail. My stock response was that idiots _are_ configuring mail, so we'd damn well better do something to make it easier for them to do it without screwing up. I didn't change many opinions :-) Meanwhile, there's webmin... imo, for what he wants, masqmail is really simple. -- derek From bballdude1888 at yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 23:39:37 2007 From: bballdude1888 at yahoo.com (k h) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:39:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: starting the disk Message-ID: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i have windows xp. i downloaded the kubuntu 7.10, and it is currently on a CD-RW. i try to boot it at startup, but it doesn't work. it is and .iso file. any ideas? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From news at pointerstop.ca Thu Nov 29 23:32:00 2007 From: news at pointerstop.ca (Derek Broughton) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:32:00 -0400 Subject: Newbie: kernel/init messages at boot times ? References: <474F346F.6040602@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1731103.y8MGMN5UD0@cedar.serverforest.com> Ulrich Grün wrote: > Dear list, > > I'm used to SuSE and Debian for quite a long time. With that > distributions, when I start (and power off) the computer, I get the kernel > and init messages on tty1. With (K)Ubuntu (7.10), this feature has been > disabled. No it hasn't. > I already changed the kernel options in 'menu.lst' and removed > the 'silent' option (which resulted in a little information, but not > exactly what I'm looking for) I trust that's just a translation of a german option (I have no idea if options are internationalized) but the correct option is "quiet". Since ubuntu uses the (long available on Debian) splash option, you probably want to turn that off too. > > Furthermore, when I press F2 (and others) during boot time and return > to tty1, that screen has become black. All the other tty's are black as > well and I cannot log in into bash of one of the tty's. That may be hardware related. Console messages should actually be on > Has anybody figured out how to solve this? It would be ideal if the > messaging was like Debian/SuSE. It's _exactly_ like Debian. -- derek From ronw at paradise.net.nz Fri Nov 30 00:32:32 2007 From: ronw at paradise.net.nz (ronw at paradise.net.nz) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:32:32 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: starting the disk In-Reply-To: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1196382752.474f5a2044924@www.paradise.net.nz> If it is an .iso file it will never work. You need to burn iso to a disk and then you can boot Quoting k h : > i have windows xp. i downloaded the kubuntu 7.10, and it is currently on > a CD-RW. i try to boot it at startup, but it doesn't work. it is and > .iso file. any ideas? > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Ron Wilson From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Fri Nov 30 00:41:36 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:41:36 -0600 Subject: HardDisk killer Message-ID: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> Hi, I'm surprised that nobody on the list mentioned the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 which looks like an Hard Disk killer which affects all laptop users. I really would like to know how/if are you dealing with the workaround... Cheers, G From anton at wilddsl.net.au Fri Nov 30 01:38:45 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:38:45 +1100 Subject: No deflate rar option in konqueror In-Reply-To: <880dece00711272344l16d9d702yaf58e9f5f876cd3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <880dece00711270922t6d460a05l5dac6a5fb703699e@mail.gmail.com> <474CC06A.3020101@wilddsl.net.au> <880dece00711272344l16d9d702yaf58e9f5f876cd3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474F69A5.5040001@wilddsl.net.au> Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I installed unrar-free via Adept, then >> symlinked /usr/bin/unrar -> unrar-free >> I think that's all I had to do, then >> Konqueror started working. >> >> Anton. > > Thanks. To _where_ did you symlink /usr/bin/unrar? Not to /home/user, > as your post implies? I currently have /usr/bin/unrar-free, but my > problem is that I need it to show up in the context menu in Konqueror, > as zip and tar do. > > Dotan Cohen To the same directory. But now I'm not sure that just getting a version of unrar installed is what will fix your context menu. I can't quite remember all the things I did to install unrar ability. Did I have to mess around in Konqueror settings ? Try to go to Settings / Configure Konqueror... / File Associations / application / x-rar Then check that "Ark" is in the Application Preference Order box. Might shed some light. Regards, Anton. From d.mcglone at att.net Fri Nov 30 01:40:22 2007 From: d.mcglone at att.net (David McGlone) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:40:22 -0500 Subject: Postfix help needed In-Reply-To: <1679025.9a602nc7Na@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <474E2FBF.4090704@gmail.com> <474F2B0B.7090801@gmail.com> <1679025.9a602nc7Na@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <200711292040.23070.d.mcglone@att.net> On Thursday 29 November 2007 6:26:02 pm Derek Broughton wrote: > D. R. Evans wrote: > > You have stumbled on what is, to my mind, the most arcanely configured > > program in the history of UNIX. (Well, sendmail takes that honour, but > > postfix is the modern equivalent.) > > I think it applies to MTAs in general > > > I don't understand why there isn't some GUI-based configuration program > > for postfix (maybe there is and I've just never found it), because the > > number of possibilities and inter-related options in postfix cries out > > for a GUI to make sense of everything. > > I used to hang out on the exim developers list, and the answer to that is > that MTA developers believe that GUIs are evil. The prevailing opinion was > that if you make it easy to configure mail, idiots will be configuring > mail. My stock response was that idiots _are_ configuring mail, so we'd This idiot configured a mailserver for his internal network with the help of a very fine man on this list. He helped me for days to understand postfix and the workings of a mailserver, and guess what? I'm not an idiot anymore :-) So In a way I sort of agree with the developers, BUT for a different reason and that is only because if there were a GUI to set up a mailserver, then I'd still be an idiot. LOL But I also agree, that for those who want to remain idiot's then bring on the GUI. :-) You see, there's always a bright side to something negative. -- David M. From anton at wilddsl.net.au Fri Nov 30 01:52:41 2007 From: anton at wilddsl.net.au (Anton Rolls) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:52:41 +1100 Subject: Feeling like a 2nd class citizen In-Reply-To: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B9603778D07@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> References: <0AD32CAF49BDD84C8F380DD11D2B1B9603778D07@Exchmid03.us.pioneernrc.pvt> Message-ID: <474F6CE9.8020601@wilddsl.net.au> Hi Tim, Tipton, Timothy wrote: >> Oops, I'm on 32-bit and missed that the original poster's machine >> is 64-bit. I don't know how well Firefox for Windows runs on 64-bit. > > What exactly is the purpose of running Firefox for windows on Linux? Am > I missing something here? > > Thanks, > Tim I'm still fairly newish to linux, having migrated from Windows over the last six months. So I'm still trying different things. I think I had the false impression that Flash plugin wouldn't work on linux. Maybe I heard that Shockwave wouldn't work, or I was just trying to avoid installing a non open source version and sort of blocked it out of mind. I tried Gnash recently, but it seems quite buggy still. Firefox in Wine seems like a good place to put the proprietary Flash plugin, anyway. Regards, Anton. From jarrett.andrew at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 05:08:06 2007 From: jarrett.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Jarrett) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:08:06 -0500 Subject: starting the disk In-Reply-To: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9bed467e0711292108k55bf918he3bfab8a1240a9bc@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 29, 2007 6:39 PM, k h wrote: > i have windows xp. i downloaded the kubuntu 7.10, and it is currently on a > CD-RW. i try to boot it at startup, but it doesn't work. it is and .iso > file. any ideas? For clarification, an .iso file is to a CD/DVD like what a negative is to a photograph. An .iso file is like a "negative" of the disc and, therefore, must be burned to the disc in a special manner to get the desired result. You need to look through your burner software and find the option to "Burn image" or something similarly worded. If your burner software doesn't offer this option, then there are many free burners that will -- I think I have used "ISO Burner" (or something like that) in the past. Simply putting the .iso file on the CD will _not_ work; you need to send that negative through a special process to get the _real_ picture. Also, if you haven't checked the md5sum on the .iso file yet, you may want to. Since you are using a rewritable CD, I would suggest to make sure it is burned correctly and try again before starting to worry about the checksum. HTH, Andrew -- 45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2 From stdin at stdin.me.uk Fri Nov 30 06:22:03 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:22:03 +0000 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> Message-ID: <474FAC0B.1070900@stdin.me.uk> Gianluca Cerminara wrote: > Hi, > I'm surprised that nobody on the list mentioned the bug: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 > which looks like an Hard Disk killer which affects all laptop users. > I really would like to know how/if are you dealing with the workaround... > > Cheers, > G > > > By default laptop-mode is not enabled, unless you manually enable it you won't be effected. Terence From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 30 06:27:52 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:27:52 +0100 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> Message-ID: <200711300727.52507.kassube@gmx.net> Gianluca Cerminara wrote: > I'm surprised that nobody on the list mentioned the bug: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 > which looks like an Hard Disk killer which affects all laptop users. > I really would like to know how/if are you dealing with the > workaround... I uninstalled smartmontools and installed the workaround mentioned in the bug report. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 30 06:54:55 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:54:55 +0100 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <474FAC0B.1070900@stdin.me.uk> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <474FAC0B.1070900@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <200711300754.55675.kassube@gmx.net> Terence Simpson wrote: > By default laptop-mode is not enabled, unless you manually enable it > you won't be effected. You may be affected anyway. I didn't enable laptop-mode, but the relevant counter was increasing, even after uninstalling smartmontools. That is not the case if I use Dapper instead of Gutsy. Therefore, I think it is wise to use the workaround from the bug report. Nils From nepal.roade at virgin.net Fri Nov 30 09:14:51 2007 From: nepal.roade at virgin.net (nepal) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:14:51 +0000 Subject: install failed Message-ID: <200711300914.51907.nepal.roade@virgin.net> I've just downloaded the latest Kubuntu booted it up and run the installer. It goes through the installation process and gets to 82% complete and then hangs. i.e. apparently does nothing that I can detect. The installer window refers to scanning mirrors. Can anyone advise please? nepal. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 09:27:38 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:27:38 +0200 Subject: install failed In-Reply-To: <200711300914.51907.nepal.roade@virgin.net> References: <200711300914.51907.nepal.roade@virgin.net> Message-ID: <200711301127.39120.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > The installer window refers to > scanning mirrors. Sounds like it's trying to reach the Internet? Just a guess. Perhaps you can try again and tell it not to setup the connection to the net so it does not try anything like that. \d From nepal.roade at virgin.net Fri Nov 30 09:30:16 2007 From: nepal.roade at virgin.net (nepal) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:30:16 +0000 Subject: install failed In-Reply-To: <200711301127.39120.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <200711300914.51907.nepal.roade@virgin.net> <200711301127.39120.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711300930.17031.nepal.roade@virgin.net> On Friday 30 November 2007, Donn wrote: > Sounds like it's trying to reach the Internet? Just a > guess. Perhaps you can try again and tell it not to setup > the connection to the net so it does not try anything > like that. > > > \d Hi, I did not get asked to set up a connection. I have a router/modem which is just *on* and connected via a nic. I did do a quick web browse from the live cd running prior to the install, so apparently the connection is there, at least for http. any other ideas? thanks for your help. nepal. From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 09:47:44 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:47:44 +0200 Subject: install failed In-Reply-To: <200711300930.17031.nepal.roade@virgin.net> References: <200711300914.51907.nepal.roade@virgin.net> <200711301127.39120.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711300930.17031.nepal.roade@virgin.net> Message-ID: <200711301147.44720.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > any other ideas? Not really. I just noticed the word "mirror" and thought it might mean the Ubuntu repositories (where software comes from). I don't recall any such updating in my recent install, but then my network connection is a monster to setup and so gets done manually afterwards. A few things - Check the md5sum of the iso you are using; to make sure the disk is not bad. Next time you try, make notes of the steps and the exact error messages/ complaints / hangs. Post here again, I'm sure we'll be able to help you out. \d From wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk Fri Nov 30 10:15:18 2007 From: wulfmann at tiscali.co.uk (Wulfy) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:15:18 +0000 Subject: install failed In-Reply-To: <200711300930.17031.nepal.roade@virgin.net> References: <200711300914.51907.nepal.roade@virgin.net> <200711301127.39120.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711300930.17031.nepal.roade@virgin.net> Message-ID: <474FE2B6.4050405@tiscali.co.uk> nepal wrote: > On Friday 30 November 2007, Donn wrote: > >> Sounds like it's trying to reach the Internet? Just a >> guess. Perhaps you can try again and tell it not to setup >> the connection to the net so it does not try anything >> like that. >> >> >> \d >> > > Hi, > > I did not get asked to set up a connection. I have a > router/modem which is just *on* and connected via a nic. > > I did do a quick web browse from the live cd running prior > to the install, so apparently the connection is there, at > least for http. > > any other ideas? > > thanks for your help. > > nepal. > > > I've seen the same problem on the Ubuntu User list. The installer is trying to update the list of available software from the repositories. Some repositories are taking a long time to answer or are not answering at all. Unplug your router/modem, reinstall, then plug your router/modem back in. Then you can try again to update using adept/aptitude/apt-get (whichever you'll be using to get updates to your system). -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 10:45:21 2007 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Gr=FCn?=) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:45:21 +0100 Subject: Newbie: kernel/init messages at boot times: SOLVED (but to be continued) In-Reply-To: <1731103.y8MGMN5UD0@cedar.serverforest.com> References: <474F346F.6040602@googlemail.com> <1731103.y8MGMN5UD0@cedar.serverforest.com> Message-ID: <474FE9C1.8030704@googlemail.com> Derek Broughton schrieb: > Ulrich Grün wrote: > >> Dear list, >> >> I'm used to SuSE and Debian for quite a long time. With that >> distributions, when I start (and power off) the computer, I get the kernel >> and init messages on tty1. With (K)Ubuntu (7.10), this feature has been >> disabled. > > No it hasn't. > >> I already changed the kernel options in 'menu.lst' and removed >> the 'silent' option (which resulted in a little information, but not >> exactly what I'm looking for) > > I trust that's just a translation of a german option (I have no idea if > options are internationalized) but the correct option is "quiet". Since > ubuntu uses the (long available on Debian) splash option, you probably want > to turn that off too. I was wrong with that word, indeed, I meant 'quiet'. I get the kernel messages on another tty. The problem of the blacked tty was caused by a wrong vga=### option. Before Kubuntu, I used as kernel option 'vga=0x31a' (with SuSE). When I use this with Kubuntu, all tty's are black. When I use 'vga=791' (as Kaj suggested) result is black as well. So, now I have to figure out how to use a reasonable console resolution that works. (and how strange that it doesn't work anymore . . .) Thanks for the help! -- Ulrich. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø WU WEI The Sage is occupied with the unspoken, and acts without effort. Teaching without verbosity, producing without possessing, creating without regard to result, claiming nothing, the Sage has nothing to lose. [Tao Te Ching, by Priya Hemenway] ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø From eprosoft at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 11:04:52 2007 From: eprosoft at gmail.com (Eduardo P. =?iso-8859-1?q?Rom=E1n?= O.) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:04:52 -0300 Subject: Anybody config postfix to use auth-smtp Message-ID: <200711300804.52787.eprosoft@gmail.com> Hi I been installed postif on my ubuntu-server 7.10, it's great. Then I put there a postfix, and I need to use like SMTP server, only to send mail using and e-mail auth smtp from my ISP. I try to config postfix with sals, but always I get the same problem , the from of my email it's the host_machine at mydomain, and not the user_email at myisp, that's why the ISP say me, can't login, invalid user. Any Idea ??? -- Saludos Cordiales Eduardo P. Román O. Ingeniero en informática Epro Software CONFIDENCIALIDAD: La información contenida en este mensaje y/o en los archivos adjuntos es de carácter confidencial o privilegiada y está destinada al uso exclusivo del emisor y/o de la persona o entidad a quien va dirigida. Si usted no es el destinatario, cualquier almacenamiento, divulgación, distribución o copia de esta información está estrictamente prohibido y sancionado por la ley. Si recibió este mensaje por error, por favor infórmenos inmediatamente respondiendo este mismo mensaje y borre todos los archivos adjuntos. Gracias. CONFIDENTIAL NOTE: The information transmitted in this message and/or attachments is confidential and/or privileged and is intented only for use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any retention,dissemination, distribution or copy of this information is strictly prohibited and sanctioned by law. If you received this messagge in error, please reply us this same message and delete this message and all attachments. Thank you. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri Nov 30 11:31:13 2007 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:31:13 -0500 Subject: gxine & kaffeine won't launch Message-ID: <200711300631.14158.pkaplan1@comcast.net> For the last couple of days I haven't been able to launch gxine or kaffeine. When I try from the command line, gxine returns: gxine: killed by watchdog bite When I try kaffeine I get: ERROR: Communication problem with kaffeine, it probably crashed. Any ideas what's happening/how to fix? TIA Paul From balazs at rainstorm.org Fri Nov 30 11:36:42 2007 From: balazs at rainstorm.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?H=E9der_Bal=E1zs?=) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:36:42 +0100 Subject: forbid hibernation / sleep for users In-Reply-To: <20071128120814.zropi5f0g4wwogsc@rainstorm.org> References: <20071128120814.zropi5f0g4wwogsc@rainstorm.org> Message-ID: <200711301236.42579.balazs@rainstorm.org> Hi, I've found a solution. I tought I write it to the list, because I think it's a very useful method. I found these steps separately in different web pages by google. So I've done the following: Step 1: -------- Edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, add the following lines: AllowSuspend=None AllowShutdown=Root Step 2: -------- Edit /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/ksmserverrc, add the following lines: [General] offerShutdown=false shutdownType=0 Step 3: -------- Change permissions of acpi scripts in /etc/acpi to 750: chmod 750 hibernatebtn.sh hibernatebtn.sh powerbtn.sh sleep.sh Now there is only logout button in KDE's logout window. :) Best regards, Balazs Heder From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 11:44:47 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:44:47 +0200 Subject: gxine & kaffeine won't launch In-Reply-To: <200711300631.14158.pkaplan1@comcast.net> References: <200711300631.14158.pkaplan1@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200711301344.47830.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > Any ideas what's happening/how to fix? It could be you are trying to play video formats that are not supported/installed. Have you installed the non-free codecs? I can't recall the link, but there's a page about it on the Ubuntu wiki. \d From stew.schneider at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 13:33:03 2007 From: stew.schneider at gmail.com (Stew Schneider) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:33:03 -0500 Subject: Anybody config postfix to use auth-smtp In-Reply-To: <200711300804.52787.eprosoft@gmail.com> References: <200711300804.52787.eprosoft@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4750110F.7020201@gmail.com> Eduardo P. Román O. wrote: > Hi > I been installed postif on my ubuntu-server 7.10, it's great. Then I put > there a postfix, and I need to use like SMTP server, only to send mail using > and e-mail auth smtp from my ISP. > > I try to config postfix with sals, but always I get the same problem , the > from of my email it's the host_machine at mydomain, and not the > user_email at myisp, that's why the ISP say me, can't login, invalid user. > > Any Idea ??? I just finished doing this, using the howto's at http://prantran.blogspot.com/2007/01/getting-postfix-to-work-on-ubuntu-with.html http://www.kirranet.co.nz/content/howto-relay-email-using-ubuntu,-postfix-and-gmail http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html It's tedious, but it can be done, and seems to work fine. stew From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Fri Nov 30 14:05:14 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:05:14 -0600 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <474FAC0B.1070900@stdin.me.uk> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <474FAC0B.1070900@stdin.me.uk> Message-ID: <4750189A.4060903@cern.ch> Terence Simpson wrote: > Gianluca Cerminara wrote: >> Hi, >> I'm surprised that nobody on the list mentioned the bug: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 >> which looks like an Hard Disk killer which affects all laptop users. >> I really would like to know how/if are you dealing with the workaround... >> >> Cheers, >> G >> >> >> > By default laptop-mode is not enabled, unless you manually enable it you > won't be effected. > > Terence > > The problem has nothing to do with laptop_mode... Cheers, G From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 14:36:05 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:36:05 +0200 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <4750189A.4060903@cern.ch> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <474FAC0B.1070900@stdin.me.uk> <4750189A.4060903@cern.ch> Message-ID: <200711301636.05296.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > The problem has nothing to do with laptop_mode... I don't wanna go read loads of pages; does this bug affect normal hard drives in desktop machines? I have old IDE drives - how would I test the situation? \d From gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch Fri Nov 30 14:48:18 2007 From: gianluca.cerminara at cern.ch (Gianluca Cerminara) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:48:18 -0600 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <200711300727.52507.kassube@gmx.net> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <200711300727.52507.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <475022B2.6090602@cern.ch> Nils Kassube wrote: > Gianluca Cerminara wrote: >> I'm surprised that nobody on the list mentioned the bug: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 >> which looks like an Hard Disk killer which affects all laptop users. >> I really would like to know how/if are you dealing with the >> workaround... > > I uninstalled smartmontools and installed the workaround mentioned in the > bug report. > Why did you unistall smartmontools? I use it to monitor the status of the HD and its temperature since I applied the fix... G From jferrando at netplc.com Fri Nov 30 12:14:17 2007 From: jferrando at netplc.com (Jordi Ferrando Fabra) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:14:17 +0100 Subject: Anybody config postfix to use auth-smtp In-Reply-To: <200711300804.52787.eprosoft@gmail.com> References: <200711300804.52787.eprosoft@gmail.com> Message-ID: <474FFE99.1080104@netplc.com> Eduardo P. Román O. wrote: > Hi > I been installed postif on my ubuntu-server 7.10, it's great. Then I put > there a postfix, and I need to use like SMTP server, only to send mail using > and e-mail auth smtp from my ISP. > > I try to config postfix with sals, but always I get the same problem , the > from of my email it's the host_machine at mydomain, and not the > user_email at myisp, that's why the ISP say me, can't login, invalid user. > > Any Idea ??? > > Good luck. This is my company's front mail agent. It filters mails and the delivers to the internal zimbra box. It also has SMTP Auth. Utilizar postfix como SMTP-Auth (Se ha "sacado" del artículo: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier_ubuntu_edgy) Comprobar que existen los paquetes: apt-get install postfix postfix-mysql postfix-doc mysql-client mysql-server courier-authdaemon courier-authlib-mysql courier-pop courier-pop-ssl courier-imap courier-imap-ssl postfix-tls libsasl2 libsasl2-modules libsasl2-modules-sql sasl2-bin libpam-mysql openssl phpmyadmin apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 php5 php5-mysql Creación de una base de datos con nombre "mail" con permisos para el usuario del correo: GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE ON mail.* TO 'mail_admin'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'xxxx'; GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE ON mail.* TO 'mail_admin'@'localhost.localdomain' IDENTIFIED BY 'xxxx'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; Creación de las tablas: USE mail; CREATE TABLE domains ( domain varchar(50) NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY (domain) ) TYPE=innodb; CREATE TABLE forwardings ( source varchar(80) NOT NULL, destination TEXT NOT NULL, PRIMARY KEY (source) ) TYPE=innodb; CREATE TABLE users ( email varchar(80) NOT NULL, password varchar(20) NOT NULL, quota INT(10) DEFAULT '10485760', PRIMARY KEY (email) ) TYPE=innodb; CREATE TABLE transport ( domain varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', transport varchar(128) NOT NULL default '', UNIQUE KEY domain (domain) ) TYPE=innodb; Popular las tablas: *domain * netplc.com intransys.com The /users /table stores all virtual users (i.e. email addresses, because the email address and user name is the same) and passwords (in *encrypted *form!) and a quota value for each mail box (in this example the default value is 10485760 bytes which means 10MB). *email * /password / /quota / jferrando at netplc.com No9.E4skNvGa. encrypt('secret') 10485760 mysql> insert into `users` (`email`, `password`, `quota`) values ('jferrando at almex.es', encrypt('Net4724'), 25000000); Query OK, 1 row affected (0.05 sec) mysql> select * from users; +-------------------------+---------------+----------+ | email | password | quota | +-------------------------+---------------+----------+ | amarquez at intransys.com | XlK2gQsfS3VCI | 10485760 | | amarquez at netplc.com | Rkq9YNL8JbHz6 | 10485760 | ... | vrecatala at netplc.com | Hu5d.tx4/cdXk | 10485760 | +-------------------------+---------------+----------+ 22 rows in set (0.00 sec) Comprovar configuración del postfix: /etc/postfix/main.cf # See /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, more complete version # Debian specific: Specifying a file name will cause the first # line of that file to be used as the name. The Debian default # is /etc/mailname. #myorigin = /etc/mailname smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Ubuntu) biff = no # appending .domain is the MUA's job. append_dot_mydomain = no # Uncomment the next line to generate "delayed mail" warnings #delay_warning_time = 4h # TLS parameters #smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem #smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key #smtpd_use_tls=yes smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache # See /usr/share/doc/postfix/TLS_README.gz in the postfix-doc package for # information on enabling SSL in the smtp client. #myhostname = localhost myhostname = pccamara.netplc.com alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases mydestination = localhost, localhost.localdomain, localhost relayhost = mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 mailbox_size_limit = 0 recipient_delimiter = + #inet_interfaces = loopback-only inet_interfaces = all #virtual_alias_domains = #virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_email2email.cf #virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_domains.cf #virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_mailboxes.cf #virtual_mailbox_base = /home/vmail #virtual_uid_maps = static:5000 #virtual_gid_maps = static:5000 smtpd_sasl_enable = yes #Enable the authenticated SMTP feature. smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes #smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_use_tls = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/smtpd.cert smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/smtpd.key content_filter = amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024 #Ojo! Si no está comentada deshabilita los forwardings! #receive_override_options = no_address_mappings smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, permit smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/maps/friends, reject_unauth_destination, reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org, reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, reject_invalid_hostname, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_rbl_client multi.uribl.com, reject_rbl_client dsn.rfc-ignorant.org, reject_rbl_client dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client dnsbl.sorbs.net, reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, reject_rbl_client ix.dnsbl.manitu.net, reject_rbl_client combined.rbl.msrbl.net, reject_rbl_client rabl.nuclearelephant.com, reject_rhsbl_client blackhole.securitysage.com, reject_rhsbl_sender blackhole.securitysage.com, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10031, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:60000 permit #relay_domains = netplc.com, intransys.com, almex.es relay_domains = hash:/etc/postfix/maps/relay_domains transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/maps/transport relay_recipient_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/maps/relay_recipients smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous Afterwards we create the SSL certificate that is needed for TLS: cd /etc/postfix openssl req -new -outform PEM -out smtpd.cert -newkey rsa:2048 -nodes -keyout smtpd.key -keyform PEM -days 365 -x509 <-- Enter your Country Name (e.g., "DE"). <-- Enter your State or Province Name. <-- Enter your City. <-- Enter your Organization Name (e.g., the name of your company). <-- Enter your Organizational Unit Name (e.g. "IT Department"). <-- Enter the Fully Qualified Domain Name of the system (e.g. "server1.example.com"). <-- Enter your Email Address. Then change the permissions of the smtpd.key: chmod o= /etc/postfix/smtpd.key /etc/postfix/master.cf # # Postfix master process configuration file. For details on the format # of the file, see the Postfix master(5) manual page. # # ========================================================================== # service type private unpriv chroot wakeup maxproc command + args # (yes) (yes) (yes) (never) (100) # ========================================================================== smtp inet n - - - - smtpd #submission inet n - - - - smtpd # -o smtpd_etrn_restrictions=reject # -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject #smtps inet n - - - - smtpd # -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes #submission inet n - - - - smtpd # -o smtpd_etrn_restrictions=reject # -o smtpd_enforce_tls=yes -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes #628 inet n - - - - qmqpd pickup fifo n - - 60 1 pickup cleanup unix n - - - 0 cleanup qmgr fifo n - n 300 1 qmgr #qmgr fifo n - - 300 1 oqmgr tlsmgr unix - - - 1000? 1 tlsmgr rewrite unix - - - - - trivial-rewrite bounce unix - - - - 0 bounce defer unix - - - - 0 bounce trace unix - - - - 0 bounce verify unix - - - - 1 verify flush unix n - - 1000? 0 flush proxymap unix - - n - - proxymap smtp unix - - - - - smtp # When relaying mail as backup MX, disable fallback_relay to avoid MX loops relay unix - - - - - smtp -o fallback_relay= # -o smtp_helo_timeout=5 -o smtp_connect_timeout=5 showq unix n - - - - showq error unix - - - - - error discard unix - - - - - discard local unix - n n - - local virtual unix - n n - - virtual lmtp unix - - - - - lmtp anvil unix - - - - 1 anvil scache unix - - - - 1 scache # # ==================================================================== # Interfaces to non-Postfix software. Be sure to examine the manual # pages of the non-Postfix software to find out what options it wants. # # Many of the following services use the Postfix pipe(8) delivery # agent. See the pipe(8) man page for information about ${recipient} # and other message envelope options. # ==================================================================== # # maildrop. See the Postfix MAILDROP_README file for details. # Also specify in main.cf: maildrop_destination_recipient_limit=1 # maildrop unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient} # # See the Postfix UUCP_README file for configuration details. # uucp unix - n n - - pipe flags=Fqhu user=uucp argv=uux -r -n -z -a$sender - $nexthop!rmail ($recipient) # # Other external delivery methods. # ifmail unix - n n - - pipe flags=F user=ftn argv=/usr/lib/ifmail/ifmail -r $nexthop ($recipient) bsmtp unix - n n - - pipe flags=Fq. user=bsmtp argv=/usr/lib/bsmtp/bsmtp -t$nexthop -f$sender $recipient scalemail-backend unix - n n - 2 pipe flags=R user=scalemail argv=/usr/lib/scalemail/bin/scalemail-store ${nexthop} ${user} ${extension} mailman unix - n n - - pipe flags=FR user=list argv=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py ${nexthop} ${user} amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp -o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200 -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes 127.0.0.1:10025 inet n - - - - smtpd -o content_filter= -o local_recipient_maps= -o relay_recipient_maps= -o smtpd_restriction_classes= -o smtpd_client_restrictions= -o smtpd_helo_restrictions= -o smtpd_sender_restrictions= -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject -o mynetworks=127.0.0.0/8 -o strict_rfc821_envelopes=yes -o receive_override_options=no_unknown_recipient_checks,no_header_body_checks *Configure Saslauthd* First run mkdir -p /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd Then edit /etc/default/saslauthd. Remove the # in front of START=yes and add the lines PARAMS="-m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r" and PIDFILE="/var/spool/postfix/var/run/${NAME}/saslauthd.pid". The file should then look like this: vim /etc/default/saslauthd # This needs to be uncommented before saslauthd will be run automatically START=yes PARAMS="-m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r" PIDFILE="/var/spool/postfix/var/run/${NAME}/saslauthd.pid" # You must specify the authentication mechanisms you wish to use. # This defaults to "pam" for PAM support, but may also include # "shadow" or "sasldb", like this: # MECHANISMS="pam shadow" MECHANISMS="pam" Then create the file /etc/pam.d/smtp. It should contain only the following two lines (go sure to fill in your correct database details): vim /etc/pam.d/smtp auth required pam_mysql.so user=mail_admin passwd=xxxxx host=127.0.0.1 db=mail table=users usercolumn=email passwdcolumn=password crypt=1 account sufficient pam_mysql.so user=mail_admin passwd=xxxxx host=127.0.0.1 db=mail table=users usercolumn=email passwdcolumn=password crypt=1 Next create the file /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf. It should look like this: vim /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd mech_list: plain login allow_plaintext: true auxprop_plugin: mysql sql_hostnames: 127.0.0.1 sql_user: mail_admin sql_passwd: mail_admin_password sql_database: mail sql_select: select password from users where email = '%u' Then restart Postfix and Saslauthd: /etc/init.d/postfix restart /etc/init.d/saslauthd restart -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks anyway :-) -- Jesús Roncero From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 30 15:40:24 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:40:24 +0100 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <475022B2.6090602@cern.ch> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <200711300727.52507.kassube@gmx.net> <475022B2.6090602@cern.ch> Message-ID: <200711301640.24981.kassube@gmx.net> Gianluca Cerminara wrote: > Why did you unistall smartmontools? I use it to monitor the status of > the HD and its temperature since I applied the fix... Because the presence of smartmontools increased the problem. This is what I posted to the ubuntu-users list some time ago: | The problem doesn't exist in Dapper. I checked it with my laptop the | other day. There are WinXP, Dapper and Gutsy partitions. The result was | this: | | Windows XP: No increment of the counter. | Dapper: No increment of the counter. | Gutsy with smartmontools installed: 1 increment / 30s. | Gutsy without smartmontools: 1 increment / 90s when on battery. | 1 increment / 125s when on power. Please note: The actual increment rate depends on your harddisk model. Nils From janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi Fri Nov 30 16:06:15 2007 From: janne.vanttinen at cs.helsinki.fi (=?UTF-8?B?SmFubmUgVsOkbnR0aW5lbg==?=) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:06:15 +0200 Subject: CUPS-PDF Message-ID: <475034F7.9050303@cs.helsinki.fi> Hi. I have a problem with cups-pdf in Gutsy. I have set output dir to %USER/Desktop. Printing seems to work, but no file appears. cups-pdf_log says [ERROR] failed to set file mode for PDF file (non fatal) (/home//Desktop/.pdf) and are names of the user and the document, of course. Obviously there is a problem with creating files, but I can't understand what it is. Can anyone help me? -- - Janne Vänttinen From kassube at gmx.net Fri Nov 30 16:34:18 2007 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:34:18 +0100 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <200711301636.05296.donn.ingle@gmail.com> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <4750189A.4060903@cern.ch> <200711301636.05296.donn.ingle@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711301734.18446.kassube@gmx.net> Donn wrote: > I don't wanna go read loads of pages; why not? :) > does this bug affect normal hard > drives in desktop machines? No idea ... > I have old IDE drives - how would I test the situation? Install smartmontools. Then issue the command smartctl -d ata -a /dev/device_name_of_your_disk and search for a line starting with "193". It looks like this: 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 088 088 000 Old_age Always - 25082 If there is only an error message, your harddisk doesn't know S.M.A.R.T. and there is no danger. If you see the line, note the last number in the line. Issue the command again after about 10 minutes and compare the new counter value to the previous one. If there is a difference, read the bugreport and install the workaround mentioned there. And don't forget to uninstall smartmontools - you don't need it for a desktop anyway. Nils From bballdude1888 at yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 16:37:28 2007 From: bballdude1888 at yahoo.com (k h) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:37:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: starting the disk (Andrew Jarrett) Message-ID: <722108.99227.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> thank you. i really did need clarification on that! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donn.ingle at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 17:11:33 2007 From: donn.ingle at gmail.com (Donn) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:11:33 +0200 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <200711301734.18446.kassube@gmx.net> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <200711301636.05296.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711301734.18446.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200711301911.33957.donn.ingle@gmail.com> > why not? :) Because I'm a lazy bugger :) > Install smartmontools. Then issue the command Thanks. I'll go muck about! \d From spwhite at freesurf.ch Fri Nov 30 17:48:12 2007 From: spwhite at freesurf.ch (Sylviane et Perry White) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:48:12 +0100 Subject: starting the disk In-Reply-To: <9bed467e0711292108k55bf918he3bfab8a1240a9bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9bed467e0711292108k55bf918he3bfab8a1240a9bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200711301848.13077.spwhite@freesurf.ch> On Friday 30 November 2007 06:08, Andrew Jarrett wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007 6:39 PM, k h wrote: > > i have windows xp. i downloaded the kubuntu 7.10, and it is currently on > > a CD-RW. i try to boot it at startup, but it doesn't work. it is and > > .iso file. any ideas? > > For clarification, an .iso file is to a CD/DVD like what a negative is > to a photograph. An .iso file is like a "negative" of the disc and, > therefore, must be burned to the disc in a special manner to get the > desired result. You need to look through your burner software and > find the option to "Burn image" or something similarly worded. If > your burner software doesn't offer this option, then there are many > free burners that will -- I think I have used "ISO Burner" (or > something like that) in the past. Simply putting the .iso file on the > CD will _not_ work; you need to send that negative through a special > process to get the _real_ picture. Also, if you haven't checked the > md5sum on the .iso file yet, you may want to. Since you are using a > rewritable CD, I would suggest to make sure it is burned correctly and > try again before starting to worry about the checksum. > Very interesting, thanks Jarrett. When I downloaded the (K)Ubuntu disk I had no idea of the above and it all worked "automagically". Many people downloaded (K)Ubuntu from XP and the magic worked for them too, (I didn't notice lots of similar complains). So either they new all that (would you belive it?) or they took an obvious way to burn the image, that for some reason k h missed. Still before suggesting all that strategy I would have started by the obvious, *checking whether booting from CD's was enabled in the BIOS.* No offense intended if that doesn't apply to you (nor if that does), I just can't tell what you know. Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #55: Plumber mistook routing panel for decorative wall fixture From jeff_barish at earthlink.net Fri Nov 30 18:01:22 2007 From: jeff_barish at earthlink.net (Jeffrey Barish) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:01:22 -0700 Subject: Modifying default behavior on insertion of audio CD Message-ID: As shipped, Kubuntu wants to do something when I insert an audio CD. I would like to disable that behavior temporarily and restore it later. I found two ways to modify the behavior. One is to use Konqueror to open the /media directory and then to right click on the cdrom directory, select Properties, click on the wrench, and remove the applications. The other is to use KDE Control Center, select File Associations under KDE Components, select directory under inode, and remove the applications. Having done these things, I no longer get the KDE default panel asking me what application to run. However, I do still get an X panel asking me what application to run. I have two question: (1) what do I do now if I want absolutely no response when I insert an audio CD; (2) how do I restore the default behavior? I know how to specify an application to run whenever I insert an audio CD, but how do I get the original query panel asking me what application to run? -- Jeffrey Barish From nepal.roade at virgin.net Fri Nov 30 18:38:33 2007 From: nepal.roade at virgin.net (nepal) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:38:33 +0000 Subject: install failed In-Reply-To: <474FE2B6.4050405@tiscali.co.uk> References: <200711300914.51907.nepal.roade@virgin.net> <200711300930.17031.nepal.roade@virgin.net> <474FE2B6.4050405@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <200711301838.34034.nepal.roade@virgin.net> On Friday 30 November 2007, Wulfy wrote: > I've seen the same problem on the Ubuntu User list.  The > installer is trying to update the list of available > software from the repositories. Some repositories are > taking a long time to answer or are not answering at all. >  Unplug your router/modem, reinstall, then plug your > router/modem back in.  Then you can try again to update > using adept/aptitude/apt-get (whichever you'll be using > to get updates to your system). > > -- > Blessings > > Wulfmann Thanks for the suggestions. I redid the install without unplugging the router and just left it and eventually a time out occurred trying to get security patches. However I was misled by the installer window message which had stated just prior to this at around 70% completion, that there was less than a minute to go. Previously I had waited maybe 15 mins or so before aborting. So now I have a new install of 7.10 and it successfully boots. nepal. From ignazio_io at yahoo.it Fri Nov 30 18:44:28 2007 From: ignazio_io at yahoo.it (Ignazio Palmisano) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:44:28 +0000 Subject: HardDisk killer In-Reply-To: <200711301734.18446.kassube@gmx.net> References: <474F5C40.9000906@cern.ch> <4750189A.4060903@cern.ch> <200711301636.05296.donn.ingle@gmail.com> <200711301734.18446.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <47505A0C.7000301@yahoo.it> Nils Kassube wrote: > Donn wrote: >> I don't wanna go read loads of pages; > > why not? :) > >> does this bug affect normal hard >> drives in desktop machines? > > No idea ... The page says it does (well after some 20 comments I stopped reading...) I. > >> I have old IDE drives - how would I test the situation? > > Install smartmontools. Then issue the command > > smartctl -d ata -a /dev/device_name_of_your_disk > > and search for a line starting with "193". It looks like this: > > 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 088 088 000 Old_age Always - 25082 > > If there is only an error message, your harddisk doesn't know S.M.A.R.T. > and there is no danger. If you see the line, note the last number in the > line. Issue the command again after about 10 minutes and compare the new > counter value to the previous one. If there is a difference, read the > bugreport and install the workaround mentioned there. > > And don't forget to uninstall smartmontools - you don't need it for a > desktop anyway. > > > Nils > -- Ignazio Palmisano Ph.D. - ignazio dot palmisano at gmail dot com From lure at ubuntu.com Fri Nov 30 19:32:42 2007 From: lure at ubuntu.com (Luka Renko) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:32:42 +0100 Subject: forbid hibernation / sleep for users In-Reply-To: <20071128120814.zropi5f0g4wwogsc@rainstorm.org> References: <20071128120814.zropi5f0g4wwogsc@rainstorm.org> Message-ID: <200711302032.42520.lure@ubuntu.com> On Wednesday 28 November 2007 12:08:14 balazs at rainstorm.org wrote: > Hi! > > I've just installed a fresh Kubuntu 7.10 system. I've noticed that users > can hibernate / sleep the system by default from the KDE logout window. It > a desktop computer with minimal server application (e.g ssh, apache etc.) > so in my case hibernation and sleep must be prohibited to users. > I've been looking for a soultion from 2 days on Google, but unfortunately I > didn't find any usable information. > I've already tried to change permissions of related files under /etc/acpi/ > to 750, but users can still hibernate the system :( > I've checked /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc as well, but there isn't any possibility > to disable user hibernation. > > Do you have any idea? You can disable Hibernate and Suspend in logout/powermanager by adding this to power-managerrc: disableSuspend=1 disableHibernate=1 You should be able to do this globally, for all users, by adding this to this file: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/power-managerrc Regards, Luka From stdin at stdin.me.uk Fri Nov 30 06:25:24 2007 From: stdin at stdin.me.uk (Terence Simpson) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:25:24 -0000 Subject: starting the disk In-Reply-To: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <443784.35090.qm@web35813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474FACCD.4070008@stdin.me.uk> k h wrote: > i have windows xp. i downloaded the kubuntu 7.10, and it is currently on a CD-RW. i try to boot it at startup, but it doesn't work. it is and .iso file. any ideas? > > > You also have to make sure your computer is set to boot from the CD drive before the hard disk. Exactly how you do this depends entirely on your system and what BIOS is has, it usually involves pressing some key at boot like Esc or F8 to get to the BIOS menu. Some systems also have a boot chooser where you can select to boot from the CD drive manually, again by pressing a certain key at boot. Terence