KDE 4.0.0!

[David McGlone]

On Tuesday 15 January 2008 10:56:06 pm Terence Simpson wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> > On Tuesday 15 January 2008 8:42:10 am Derek Broughton wrote:
> >> Terence Simpson wrote:
> >>> David McGlone wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday 12 January 2008 6:14:33 pm Terence Simpson wrote:
> >>>>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >>>>>> On 12/01/2008, Terence Simpson <stdin at stdin.me.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Well, Dolphin is the file manager and Konqueror is the Web Browser.
> >>>>>>> Did you expect the Web Browser to have all the features of a file
> >>>>>>> manager?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Well, yes, as it originally _was_ a file manager before it was a web
> >>>>>> browser. And so far as I've been led to understand (please RTFM me
> >>>>>> with information otherwise) Konqueror retains all it's features for
> >>>>>> KDE4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No, Konqueror uses the Dolphin KPart to use some file managing
> >>>>> features. (A KPart is like a plugin, not exactly the same but a
> >>>>> decent analogy for this)
> >>>>
> >>>> first off, let me laugh. LOL I'm sorry man are you new to linux or
> >>>> kde? Konqueror has been a file manager since I don't know how long,
> >>>> let me say RH 6.1 or somewhere around there. can anyone verify? Anyway
> >>>> I've been using konqueror as a file manager for quite a few years I'd
> >>>> say a good 6 or 8 years and been using linux for around 10 or 12
> >>>> years. Also from what I can see, I believe you got it backwards,
> >>>> wouldn't it make more sense if dolphin was using the konqueror kpart
> >>>> since konqueror has been around as a file manager for a long long
> >>>> time. Matter of fact all dolphin is, is a stripped down and
> >>>> re-arranged konqueror with a different name. :-)
> >>>
> >>> To answer your questions:
> >>> 1) No
> >>> 2) No
> >>> 3) Didn't say it wasn't
> >>> 4) There is no Konqueror KPart for file managing, only the Dolplin
> >>> KPart.
> >>>
> >>> I hope that answered all of those queries.
> >
> > I didn't receive this reply, unless I accidentally deleted it. Anway yes
> > you answered them just fine. :-)
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> Yes, David is being a little rude,
> >
> > I'm sorry about this. I wasn't trying to sound rude. I was actually
> > laughing when I replied.
> >
> >> but you seem to be
> >> intentionally telling us all to just "live with it", and it's no
> >> surprise if it rubs us the wrong way.
> >>
> >> #3 was not strictly said, but you certainly implied it.  #4 is
> >> completely irrelevant - Konqueror has a file manager kpart, and what
> >> it's called doesn't matter a bit to the users.  It _would_ have made
> >> much more sense to users if both Dolphin and Konqueror had continued to
> >> use the same kpart. To cripple konqueror by giving it only _some_ of
> >> Dolphin's features, and not even giving Dolphin all the features
> >> Konqueror used to have is going to hurt some users and annoy far more.
> >
> > This was what I was trying to get around to, but I couldn't stop laughing
> > at Terence's post where, from what I can tell, sincerely believes
> > konqueror has been derived from dolphin. Or at least that's how I
> > understood his post.
>
> Show me the sentence that says that?

<quote>"Did you expect the Web Browser to have all the features of a file 
manager?"</quote>

This sentence to me, makes me wonder if you ever knew that konq has always 
been a file manager. And the reason I laughed is because you said it with 
such confidence. That is why I asked if you were new to linux or kde.

> All I said was that Konqueror used the Dolphon KPart in KDE4, how did
> you get "Konqueror has never been a file manager and Dolphin is older
> than konqueror" from that??
>
> Really, that's a sincere question. How did you get to "from what I can
> tell, sincerely believes konqueror has been derived from dolphin." ?

<quote>"No, Konqueror uses the Dolphin KPart"</quote>

You said this and I couldn't help but wonder, so that's why I asked in my 
reply don't you think it would make more sense to take the file browsing 
kpart of Konqueror and call it dolphin? In other words, why try to re-invent 
the wheel.

>
> On another note, I'm so glad you can be respectful on mailing lists and
> not say things like "I couldn't stop laughing at....
> Oh, wait, forget that last part.

I'm sorry that you took this the wrong way it wasn't my intention.

-- 
David M.