KDE 4.0.0!

[Billie Walsh]

Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
> Wulfy wrote:
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>> Ignazio Palmisano wrote:
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>>> Derek Broughton wrote:
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>>>> Billie Walsh wrote:
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>>>>         
>>>>> However, as there are no other parts at this time, KDE 4.0.0 would the
>>>>> "whole" of KDE4. Therefore KDE 4.0.0 = KDE4 and KDE4 = KDE 4.0.0 .
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Impeccable logic :-)  
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Unfortunately it is wrong :) a container is not equal to the things it 
>>> contains, even if it only contains one; the only exception being a 
>>> container which contains itself.
>>>       
>> However, there is nothing outside of KDE4.0 that is KDE4, therefore KDE 
>> 4.0 contains KDE4 as much as KDE4 contains KDE 4.0 (at the moment).  
>> Therefore the container contains the container (both ways!) so they are 
>> equal!  :@þ
>>
>> [I think  ;@D ]
>>
>> /me wanders off muttering about convoluted logic.......
>>
>>     
>
> /me been wandering around something similar long time ago...
>
> KDE 4.0.0 is a piece of software and it is a container of pieces of 
> software, which is the same kind of KDE4... but then the set of all 
> possible sets is contained in itself? :) Can't remember which famous 
> mathematician had a hard time defining this problem, I think it was 
> about first and second order logic, and in the end if you can put a 
> container in itself then the logical results take a while to be 
> computed... like forever :)
>
> /me feels off topic and in need of a coffee, got a headache because of 
> these containers...
> I.
>
>   
Actually it's very simple.

At this point in time KDE 4.0.0 is the whole "set" of KDE4. Therefore it
IS KDE4. When KDE 4.0.1 comes out KDE 4.0.0 will no longer be the whole
"set" of KDE4. SO at that time KDE 4.0.0 will no longer be KDE4. KDE4
will be the container for the whole set of KDE 4.0.0 and KDE 4.0.1, and
so on until KDE5 comes into being. Then the process starts over all over
again.

I also understand what he was trying to say. That KDE 4.0.0 is not what
KDE4 will be. BUT, words can be funny sometimes. You have to be careful
how something is said because things can be "twisted" and meanings
become "different".