Problems with KDE4 under Kubuntu Hardy

[Steve Lamb]

Andrew Jarrett wrote:
> No, no; it's a single movement.  Drag "Application Launcher" straight
> to where you want it from the "Add Widgets" menu.  Don't add it to
> your desktop first.

> 1) This is not the thread to voice your displeasure.  This thread
> started as a request for help.  Do you remember what the original
> problem was without going back and looking at the original email? I
> can't,

    I can.  KDE4 was not starting, even after a fresh install.  However the
most likely cause has been narrowed down to prior to even KDM.  If the
directions to look in xsession-errors is any indication the problem is that X
isn't completing its start up.  No X, no KDM, no KDE.

> and I doubt the OP will ever figure out a fix to the problem
> because of this outburst of "displeasure" from so many users.  If you
> really need to get off this "KDE 4 stress" that is weighing you down,
> please move it to another thread.

    Funny.  I was agreeing with the OPs displeasure.  Furthermore this is a
public list.  As people have often told me when you post it to a public list
you pretty much lose control of the direction the conversation goes.

> 2) Why should I have to filter my email?  I stick around here because
> I like to help (aren't you?). 

    Actually lately I have asked more questions than answered lately.  On the
other hand none of them have really been answered.

> I shouldn't have to waste my time filtering out irrelevant
> (off-topic) messages.

    Except as has been pointed out, they're not off-topic.  You may not /like/
them but liking them doesn't automatically make them off-topic.  If that were
the case I'd demand the power to make any message not to my liking off-topic
and wield it with an iron FIST!!!!  Mu-HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!


    That thar's a joke, son.

> 3) "The shoe fits"? I'm not sure I understand your metaphor.  If you
> are trying to say that your opinions about KDE 4 are relevant to this
> thread, then I'm afraid you're mistaken.  

    I'm telling Richard that if KDE4 sucks and that someone expresses that
opinion, IE the shoe fits, then there's nothing wrong with that.

> This thread is about the
> *OP's* "Problems with KDE4 under Kubuntu Hardy" and not *your*
> "displeasures" (as opposed to *actual* problems) with KDE4.

    Which is being addressed.  Since you didn't recall let me refresh your
memory on what the OP said which prompted my response.

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On Fri, May 30, 2008 3:16 pm, Rosalind Mitchell wrote:
> > At this rate, when Impudent Ibex (or whatever it's called) comes out, I
> > shall have to resort to the wretched GNOME.  Aaaaargh!

    Wait, wait...  They're actually going forward with KDE4 given how
horrible it is compared to 3?
-----

    So are you agreeing with Richard that Rosalind should not have said she'd
go back to Gnome?  Are you saying that me expressing my displeasure at the
notion of KUbuntu going to KDE4 in the next release is irrelevant and somehow
off-topic to this, the KDE Ubuntu mailing list?

    I submit that you, Richard and Myriam need to grow a thicker skin.  If
none of you had jumped on my case for commiserating with Myriam this would not
have happened.  Public response begets public response.  If I responded to all
the things that I think are wrong-headed on these lists I'd never get to work
in the morning.

-- 
         Steve C. Lamb         | But who decides what they dream?
       PGP Key: 1FC01004       |   And dream I do...
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