Password question.

[Steven Vollom]

Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
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>> Eberhard Roloff wrote:
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>>> Steven Vollom wrote:
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>>>> I would like to set a password that allows me to enter my system that is 
>>>> very secure, however, when I am in the system, I would like to have a 
>>>> very simple password to enter root, perhaps as small as a couple of 
>>>> letters.  Is this possible?
>>>>
>>>> Steven
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>         
>>> With Linux, genarally anything is possible.;-)
>>>
>>> While this is possible, I would not advise to implent it. The Ubuntu 
>>> concept of the first  user i.e. the admin user is that you use a rather 
>>> secure password to login and then use the same to "su" to root, as needed.
>>>
>>> You can alter this and there are howtos to separate root to use its own 
>>> password.
>>>
>>> It's actually quite simple but I would not advise you to do it since you 
>>> are already familiar with the "Ubuntu way" of doing things. This is 
>>> because, when you do it, your system will behave differently afterwards 
>>> and you will need to treat it differently.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Eberhard
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>>>       
>> Sorry I wasn't paying adequate attention to what you just wrote.  I was 
>> already thinking of possible reasons for avoiding this.  How does it 
>> change my system?  What change in behavior would be anticipated?  In my 
>> situation, is it more insecure?  TIA, friend.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>     
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> Well, I cannot answer this. There are numerous discussions around 
> whether the Ubuntu way is more secure or not than "the other way round", 
> which is, just for example, the SuSe or Red Hat way.
>
> Although I surely have my own opinion about this, I will not divulge it, 
> there are to many flames around. ;-)
>
> What are the differences?
>
> Now you are just doing sudo fsck /dev/sda1
> alternatively when you need to be root for any length of time, you will do:
> sudo -i
> Password
>   
I don't understand this.
> With a separate root account, it is similar but not at all identical.
> For example, sudo "something" will no longer work (except if you go and 
> configure it) and you will most likely use "su -" to become root and 
> then "exit" or "Ctrl+D" to exit root.
>
> Furthermore, I think you REALLY might prefer to use a strong root 
> password and a weaker user password, since it is root where a 
> compromised security will have potentially disastrous consequences.
>
> Again, if you are familiar with the Ubnutu way, I would strongly 
> recommend to leave it at that.
>
> If you insist to have a separate password for root, you might google this:
> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-change-the-root-password-in-ubuntu
>   
So that you know and everyone in the world knows I need it my way, Here 
is my password.  em  It is my youngest granddaughter's name, short for 
Emma or Emmalie.  Now am I insecure enough.  I have done that because of 
Kubuntu's insistance to not allow a Root terminal.  What I want is 
surely better than this.  Now until I can get my way on the issue or get 
abused by whomever.  I would rather lose what I own than any freedom.  
If GOD don't protect me from this new threat, I don't want protection at 
all.  I will just keep my Root Password 'em' all lower case.  Those of 
you who want to see if I tell the truth and can do it, see if I am not 
telling the truth.  I never have much to steal, so help yourself, I 
forgive you in advance.  Whether GOD does is up to HIM. HE has HIS own 
idea of what is right and wrong.  And Eberhard, this part of my comment 
is not for you, for you, I believe have provided what I need.  It is for 
those who choose to keep this information to themselves, and determine 
my necessary freedoms.  And I have been so well treated in this forum, I 
will always love them anyway.  You, Eb, are a little more special. (wink)

Have you ever seen so many resistant posts to a single individual on the 
selfsame subject.  No one says you can not do it, or no one says it is 
something that cannot be done, yet all say don't do it.  Yet everyone 
just gives a very soft logic why you shouldn't do it and no argument as 
to why my reasons are not good enough, which, in this forum, leads me to 
believe you think you are helping someone who can't take care of himself 
or a liar.  In either case, it is not very flattering, but I forgive you 
all if that is what you think.  Your kindness has far exceeded your insult.

I still love you all.

Steven

Cordially,

Steven
> Kind regards
> Eberhard
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