Password question.
Steven Vollom
stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net
Tue Nov 25 00:55:13 UTC 2008
Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>
>
>>> ciao bello
>>>
>>> Eberhard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> First, how does Bello translate?
>>
>
> The italians quite often say "ciao bella", meaning goodbye gorgeous
> girl. bello is the male form of bella.
>
> Then, I wish I had a brain. I still
>
>> am not sure what I am instructed.
>>
>> You understand that I want security. Do you understand that the only
>> reason I don't want to have to type my password for a Root terminal is
>> because of my physical deformity, a shorter finger that causes errors?
>>
>
> sure I understand. Then, why on earth do you want to type a password at all?
>
> open a terminal and then "sudo -i" does it all for you.
>
>> I want it difficult for someone to break into my machine, but I don't
>> want so much security once in, when I am protected by the entry.
>>
>
> Very good. Then simply change your user password to something more
> secure which you remember and you are done.
>
>> And still, I don't want it so easy to enter Root, because of my
>> inexperience and stupidity which can cause me to error. My choice for
>> solution being to have two choices, when I need to use a terminal. *One
>> choice, Shell.... One choice, Root Shell, without the requirement to
>> type in a password*. That way I will know to be super careful when in
>> Root, because one will be configured with white print over a black
>> background and one the reverse coloring; it will be obvious if I open
>> the wrong Shell.
>>
>
> KDE 3.x should have anything that you need for this.
>
>
>> Back in Feisty, I seem to recall that the Root Shell that was provided
>> on the Kmenu was black print over a cream colored background. That
>> distinction alerted you to the fact that you were on a Root Shell.
>>
>
> In 3.x, it is still like this.
>
>> If you read this email and believe this is possible, please just say it
>> will work. All who have explained it have left out response to that
>> critical part.
>>
>
> It's left to you to deduct this from what I and others wrote. After all
> it is you who decides.
>
>
>> Once I change my Login password, Kubuntu or KDE will not me change back
>> to an insecure password, so the only way I can get back to 'em' as a
>> password is to reinstall the OS; that is if when I make the changes it
>> isn't the way I have described.
>>
>
> ???? Imho this is rubbish. YOU are the one in charge and you decide
> which password you use.
>
>
> I don't want to do that. But I would
>
>> rather have no security at all than have to type in the difficult
>> password every time I want to enter Root.
>>
>
> Sure. You just enter it once. Exactly when you login as steven, once a
> day, any day.
>
>
>> Please forgive me for having such trouble understanding and explaining.
>> This will be my attempt to try to explain the part I am confused about.
>> After this I will just leave things the way they are.
>>
>
> Hm, this is not a bad idea, However when you change your "steven"
> password to something more secure, you will not do any harm and you will
> earn a lot of additional security.
>
> Kind regards
> Eberhard
>
>
>
>
Eberhard,
I think I am misusing the term root. I have been using sudo since I
started using Kubuntu. I have not had help until now. Somehow I got it
into my head that sudo and root are the same. I still do not know the
difference. I now have a password that I can type without mistakes,
very often at least. I hate to discard my 37 digit password, because it
probably is the most impressive thing I can remember in my old age, but
it isn't practical with Dragon Naturally Speaking. It is a voice
program I used to use when using an XP OS. Did not need my fingers. I
could type 170 WPM with it too. It is the only thing I miss from Windows.
During the Password discussion, I found many mistakes in my thinking. I
am surprised I could operate a computer at all.
I found that I will not be able to do what I want to do. Do you
remember Feisty? In Feisty, on one of Kmenu choices was the ability to
open a Root Shell. I may not be using the correct words, but when the
shell opened, it was in this position at opening: steven at Studio25~#.
All I had to do was cut and paste an instruction and I got the desired
result. I sure would like that very same shell back. It made life a
lot easier.
Well, it's been another fun day. I hope for you as well.
Cordially,
Steven
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