Can't seam to assign alt+F1 to pop up the kmenu???? [Kubuntu Intrepid alpha 6]

[Willy K. Hamra]

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
>  Just installed alpha 6  from the alt install image...
> 
> I'm definitely not used to KDE4, so I don't know how much of what I'm
> having difficulty with is KDE4 and how much is Intrepid specific...
> 
> But I have some issues with my first experience with it. I'm not talking
> about the unexpected application crashes that I figure are just part of
> trying an alpha release. 
> 
> The first issue I have with it is that I can't find a way to assign a
> keyboard shortcut to pull up the Kmenu... 
> 
> When I first tried to do this I thought it would be as simple as opening
> the kcontrol panel and fining the action "popup launch menu" and
> assigning the <alt>+<F1> shortcut. But I couldn't start kcontrol. 
> 
> I had already gotten rid of the vista like thing that the start menu
> button uses by default nowadays, so it took a bit to find out which menu
> setting to use so that the kmenu would include the current tool that does
> the job of kcontrol... ( I never liked the click on the icon
> selection mechanism and this doesn't seam to offer much for
> keyboard centric controls but once thing are configured I
> shouldn't need to go here much Though when I do I'll have to
> figure out how to find it all over again because the only
> kmenu setting that includes it outside of the favorites list
> that I expect it to have expired from, doesn't have much else.
> And since I don't know it's command name I haven't a clue how
> to menu edit it into the standard applications style kmenu.
> 
> But anyway when I finally found the commandnameless control
> center, and discovered that keyboard shortcuts were no longer
> under the heading of regional & accessibility. I then
> discovered that the shortcut assignment method was more mouse
> intensive That is with kcontrol I could use the keyboard to
> scroll down the list of actions, eliminate the MANY that I
> didn't want with <alt>+N. IE since I can close a window from the window
> operations menu which I set to a comfortable shortcut, I do
> not want any shortcut assigned to close, max, Min, shade, or for
> that matter kill window actions. eliminating these with this
> point n click intensive method was far more cumbersome.
> And at first I was simply taken aback by the fact that I
> wasn't finding an action labeled popup launch menu... Then
> when I eventually looked under the kde component called plasma
> (what is plasma????) I found to actions one that said
> <alt>+<F1> was assigned to something called "Application
> Launcher" and the other that said <ctrl>+<F12> would show
> dashboard...
> 
> Well <ctrl>+<F12> did pop up something I guess is the so
> called dashboard (and disappeared the taskbar. Fortunately it
> was a toggle so I got my task bar back easy enough. BUT
> NOTHING happens when I press <Alt>+<F1> whatsoever. 
> 
> I also can't find a way to get rid of that mini display area
> labeled desktop on what I think of as the desktop. Nor a way to
> ditch that %&%)*&%)*& yellow notes: (I never liked paper
> postit notes either) If I want to keep notes I'll simply keep
> them in text files I can open with any dang editor I choose. I
> want that thing off my desktop...
> 
> Like I said at the beginning, since I've never used kde4, I have
> no idea how much of this is kde4 and how much is Intrepid.
> All I can say is "YUCK!" I just hope kubuntu outgrows this
> "thing" before support for Hardy vanishes. Cause I sure don't
> plan on migrating to THIS environment...
> 

KDE4 has it's problems all right, and so is intrepid, but you're just
being harsh. have you read the list of known bugs?
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha6

it says that keyboard shortcuts have problems, and clearly states how to
fix this.

kcontrol is gone for ever i assume, it doesn't exist anymore, get over
it, there are other ways to change settings around the system, and
systemsettings is there for a reason.

apparently, you are very confused about KDE4 and dislike so many of it's
features because you are missing the one and probably most important
feature in KDE4, PLASMA! everything around you on the screen (almost
everything) is a plasmoid. the k-menu included. and so are the other
stuff around the desktop you hate. right-click the desktop, and click
add widget, click unlock widgets if you couldn't find the add widgets
menu entry. now you can remove and add widgets from there. (widgets are
plasmoids) you can remove the default k-menu and add the old k-menu if
you want, and put anything you like! plasma is a very fun thing to mess
and play around with. i compiled and installed the win-embed plasmoid
http://ksvladimir.blogspot.com/2008/06/converting-any-window-into-plasmoid.html,
i can't live without it now. the thing labeled desktop is the plasmoid
called pager BTW.

KDE4 is still in development, and so is intrepid, it got it's flaws, but
no, it's not yuck at all. i like it with all it's bugs and huger
cockroaches. i do have some issues with some apps missing with no
similar alternatives, like kooka for example. but it's good, it works, i
chat, i browse the net, i print, i collaborate with others using samba
shares, i use IRC, i scan using xsane (not exactly kooka, but still
decent), i read email on thunderbird, and i play games! it hasn't
crashed a single time, i started using it in alpha5, apps crash
sometimes, but not the apps i'm using, usually background processes are
the ones that crash a lot. and apport is very helpful for identifying
them. so basically, IT WORKS! it still can't do rocket science projects,
but that's not what almost all ppl's daily uses are!

-- 
Willy K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems
Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: w_hamra1987.vcf
Type: text/x-vcard
Size: 130 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20080923/9f125e0e/attachment.vcf>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 260 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20080923/9f125e0e/attachment.sig>