upgrade 8.04 -> 9.04+kde3: how?

[Dotan Cohen]

> I would like to introduce my lists of things to do for kde4
> to be ready for me.
>

Thank you! We'll file the bugs.


> When a system/program/... change version for a version upper,
> I expect the upper version to do ALL the previous version
> was doing, maybe do it better, maybe faster, and
> then add something; then, you have the next version.
>

I won't rehash the reasons here, suffice to say that KDE 4 was a
complete rewrite of KDE, not a port from Qt3 to Qt4.


> From Kde3 to Kde4 it is not the case.
>
> The complete weel, including the frame, was totally redesigned
> from the blank page.
>

Exactly.


> As Qt3 was a follower of Qt2 or Qt1,
> and Qt4 was something else.
>
> THE LIST.
>
> - Konqueror - it was in kde3 the better program on my machine
>        in kde4 it is horrible, Why loose a masterpiece like this?
>

What is "horrible" about Konqueror in KDE 4? What features is it
missing from KDE 3?


> - context menus everywhere - They are just missing in kde4 in
>        more places that I can enumerate here.
>

If you cannot enumerate them all, then let's start by enumerating two
of them. I'll file the bugs, and as you find more let me know. Thanks.


> - speed and simplicity - The kde4 new very beautiful look,
>        just suck all the power of the machine, and almost
>        every program runs slower or the same, sometimes faster,
>        for no immediate simplicity addon, and sometimes much
>        more complexity to follow and make divination on the
>        availables tasks.
>

With very few exceptions, Qt 4 programs run much faster on the same
hardware as Qt 3 programs. There were some bugs, notably with Kontact,
but they've been sorted out. Where do you see KDE 4 programs being
slower than their KDE 3 counterparts?


> - version numbering - in kde3 I had a complete and functionnal desktop
>        from the kde-3.1 version. In kde4 , we are at kde-4.2 or 4.3
>        and we are far from a usable desktop. at this numbering way
>        we are to have a kde4 full functionnal version around 4.8.5
>

The first KDE 4.x release meant for end users was KDE 4.2. Any
functionality missing from that release is a bug. If you find
something missing, please let me know. Thanks.


> THE EXCUSE.
>
> I do not want to alienate the kde4 developpers and other
> contributers and lovers, but you have to admit it is not as functionnal
> as the 3.5.10 version.
>

You are 100% right, KDE 4 is not yet as functional as KDE 3. That is
why on the download page both KDE 3 and KDE 4 are available, with KDE
3 labeled as "the more mature version".


> You did a beautiful task of polishing this project, but it was not
> ready for immediate consumption. It is a less complete alternative
> that a kde3 desktop. Sorry.
>

_I_ didn't, but the KDE developers did a beautiful task. However, it
is known that KDE 4 is less complete than KDE 3. That is why KDE needs
users like you to tell them what is missing. There is no checklist of
features to port from KDE 3 to KDE 4. Only the bug reports that you
and I make.


> It begins to be, at 4.3, a less-complete but usable alternative to kde3.
>
> You are on the right way with kde4, and hope to be able to use it soon,
> in my everyday work, and do as much, maybe more, than I do now with Kde3.
>

Just tell me what is missing and I'll do my best to take care of it.
But your feedback is essential. If you don't tell me what is missing,
then the feature will never be added. Just waiting for KDE 4 to turn
into KDE 3 is not going to help, it won't happen.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

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