From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri Apr 1 09:15:59 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:15:59 +0300 Subject: Syncing folders over network -- syntax Message-ID: <201104011215.59632.gkourtev@gmail.com> Hello, I am trying to sync one folder of my PC with a network folder under samba. Is this the correct syntax: rsync -r -t -v --progress -s /home/Documents/Folder smb://PC- desktop/share/Documents I have error when using the above. The output of rsync is ssh: Could not resolve hostname smb: Name or service not known rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [sender=3.0.7] Rsync process exit status: 255 Thanks. gk From info at alvin.be Fri Apr 1 10:53:03 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:53:03 +0200 Subject: Syncing folders over network -- syntax In-Reply-To: <201104011215.59632.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201104011215.59632.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104011253.04837.info@alvin.be> On Friday 01 April 2011 11:15:59 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to sync one folder of my PC with a network folder under samba. > Is this the correct syntax: > > rsync -r -t -v --progress -s /home/Documents/Folder smb://PC- > desktop/share/Documents > > I have error when using the above. The output of rsync is > > ssh: Could not resolve hostname smb: Name or service not known > rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] > rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [sender=3.0.7] > Rsync process exit status: 255 You can't use KIOslaves (smb://) at the command line (as far as I know). There are different solutions here: - Mount the share and rsync (only solution when destination is Windows): # mount -t cifs -o username= //pc-desktop/share/Documents /mnt # rsync -rt --progress /home/Documents/Folder/ /mnt/ - Set up an rsync server or use rsync over ssh # rsync -rt --progress /home/Documents/Folder/ rsync://pc- desktop/share/Documents/ # rsync -rt --progress -e ssh /home/Documents/Folder/ pc- desktop:/share/Documents/ From rrumberger at web.de Fri Apr 1 11:52:57 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:52:57 +0200 Subject: Syncing folders over network -- syntax In-Reply-To: <201104011253.04837.info@alvin.be> References: <201104011215.59632.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201104011253.04837.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <201104011353.00125.rrumberger@web.de> On Freitag 01 April 2011, 12:53:03, Alvin wrote: > On Friday 01 April 2011 11:15:59 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to sync one folder of my PC with a network folder under > > samba. Is this the correct syntax: > > > > rsync -r -t -v --progress -s /home/Documents/Folder smb://PC- > > desktop/share/Documents > > > > I have error when using the above. The output of rsync is > > > > ssh: Could not resolve hostname smb: Name or service not known > > rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] > > rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [sender=3.0.7] > > Rsync process exit status: 255 > > You can't use KIOslaves (smb://) at the command line (as far as I know). > > There are different solutions here: > - Mount the share and rsync (only solution when destination is Windows): > # mount -t cifs -o username= //pc-desktop/share/Documents /mnt > # rsync -rt --progress /home/Documents/Folder/ /mnt/ > > - Set up an rsync server or use rsync over ssh > # rsync -rt --progress /home/Documents/Folder/ rsync://pc- > desktop/share/Documents/ > # rsync -rt --progress -e ssh /home/Documents/Folder/ pc- > desktop:/share/Documents/ Actually, seeing as how rsync is closely affiliated with samba, you can use rsync with samba. I believe a samba host is addressed as samba:/ in rsync, but I might be mistaken. See man rsync for details. --Reinhold From g.lip at gmx.com Sat Apr 2 16:32:55 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 00:32:55 +0800 Subject: Bangarang video live streaming - Natty Message-ID: I need help in finding the right codecs required to enable live video streaming at Bangarang media player. I have no problem running this in Maverick but when I installed Natty beta 1, the live streaming does not seem to work well; there's audio but no video. Obviously, I don't know what codecs I installed at Maverick to get this working. :) and I am not sure if Natty beta versions are as yet ready to run Bangarang well - (Kaffeine, as always, is not working in alpha's and beta's Kubuntu's). But other than that, Bangarang plays all media formats very well in Natty beta. Hope you guys (meaning: and gals, right?) can help me out. Thanks - Goh Lip ps: the codecs (that I can remember) I installed in natty: phonon: Installed: 4:4.7.0really4.4.4-0ubuntu5 Candidate: 4:4.7.0really4.4.4-0ubuntu5 phonon-backend-xine: Installed: 4:4.7.0really4.4.4-0ubuntu3 Candidate: 4:4.7.0really4.4.4-0ubuntu3 libxine-ffmpeg N: Unable to locate package libxine-ffmpeg xine: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) libxinerama1: Installed: 2:1.1.1-1ubuntu1 Candidate: 2:1.1.1-1ubuntu1 libavcodec-extra-52: Installed: 4:0.6.2-1ubuntu2 Candidate: 4:0.6.2-1ubuntu2 -- I used to have an open mind, but my brains kept falling out. From helder.earth at gmail.com Sat Apr 2 21:18:15 2011 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:18:15 -0300 Subject: Problems with video in Skype Message-ID: <4D979297.8030203@gmail.com> I had a generic webcam installed on my Kubuntu 10.10, and it worked perfectly on Skype for video calls. Last week, the cam broke and I've since bought a new one (a CIS wc1001 webcam) and, as I imagined, it worked fine too (I made the test using Cheese and, using "lsusb" at Konsole, the cam was listed as "USB2.0 JPEG WebCam (/dev/video0)"). But it simply wouldn't work on my user's Skype. And the problem appeared to be only in my Kubuntu user (me and my wife share the same computer). In my wife's, it worked with no problem at all in Skype. My next step was to unplug my webcam and change to another usb, and I found out that not only it didn't solved anything, but it stopped working on my wife's also. I've tried since two other webcams, but the problem persists (they worked fine in Cheese and showed normally on lsusb, but not in Skype). I've uninstalled and re installed Skype, but it didn't work either. Looking for the answer in web foruns, some folks told me it could be my video permissions, but I've had looked to it before, and Skype was working normally before the whole webcam change anyway. So, if someone here knows what I could do to solve the problem, thanks very much for the help. From paul at lemmons.name Sun Apr 3 01:33:48 2011 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:33:48 -0700 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? Message-ID: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare Workstation? -- In a world without walls and fences we don't need Windows or Gates From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 3 02:05:05 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 22:05:05 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <201104022205.05702.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Saturday, April 02, 2011, Paul Lemmons wrote: > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has > it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability > wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare > Workstation? I used to feel the way you do and it took a long time for me to get a 64 bit machine. But I built three of them about a year ago and the switch was painless... No problems at the moment whatever. I am sure there might be some apps that didn't convert over... grip is one, but I think it was for other reasons than 64bit. I don't think it is supported anymore... but it does run on 64 bit and I still use it occasionally. From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Apr 3 02:14:24 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 22:14:24 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <201104022214.24540.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Saturday, April 02, 2011 09:33:48 PM Paul Lemmons wrote: > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has > it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability > wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare > Workstation? You won't see a difference. There really hasn't been a difference in years, really. Everything you list works the same, tho I have not used Vmware - Virtualbox works just dandy here. Run a livecd and see, is what i would do, or even dual-boot for a spell if you have a spare partition. That's what I did in deciding on 32 vs 64 bit on my desktop, primarily a Boxee/xbmc machine. Running that on 64 bit involved a lot of extra work a few years back, but when they started making 64bit versions, I dual-booted and saw no differences performance-wise, driver-wise, or flash-wise and what was broken in one was broken in th other :/ -- . Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun Apr 3 02:30:28 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:30:28 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <201104022214.24540.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <201104022214.24540.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4D97DBC4.9060501@optonline.net> On 04/02/2011 10:14 PM, Clay Weber wrote: /snip/ > You won't see a difference. There really hasn't been a difference in years, > really. Everything you list works the same, tho I have not used Vmware - > Virtualbox works just dandy here. Run a livecd and see, is what i would do, or > even dual-boot for a spell if you have a spare partition. That's what I did in > deciding on 32 vs 64 bit on my desktop, primarily a Boxee/xbmc machine. > Running that on 64 bit involved a lot of extra work a few years back, but when > they started making 64bit versions, I dual-booted and saw no differences > performance-wise, driver-wise, or flash-wise and what was broken in one was > broken in th other :/ > > -- . > Clay Weber > http://kubuntuforums.net > http://flyballmaine.com > http://emacdogsports.com > I would think that 64-bit would have a really noticeable effect when you get a bunch of windows open, assuming you have some of the extra ram that 64-bit supports. I don't have the option of 64-bit with this machine, and I can see it really bog down when I do that.. (AAMOF, it will only allow me 2GB or ram.) Am I wrong? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From jonpiper at cox.net Sun Apr 3 10:42:11 2011 From: jonpiper at cox.net (Jon Piper) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 06:42:11 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <201104022205.05702.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <201104022205.05702.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4D984F03.4070904@cox.net> Hi All, I have been running 64 bit since 8.10 and haven't had an significant problems. Flashplayer was the only issue I can recall but there was a workaround - I don't recall what is was but it worked. I'm using Kubuntu 10.10 on my laptop (Toshiba L655-S5157 - Intel i3-380 with 4 GIG) since I bought it a month ago -- no real issues. Just some nitty things that are probably issues with 10.10. The most aggravating is that when I go to a web page from Thunderbird (email), it loads it in Konqueror instead of Firefox; I have reset the defaults so they all point to Firefox but no soap. I have a desktop with 10.04 (64) that works like a charm. I tried 10.04 (32 & 64 bit) on this machine and could not get ethernet or wireless going; that is why I installed 10.10. I usually use the LTS versions until the bitter end-once going because I don't like to change (I have been using Linux since 1997 or 1998 -- its come a long way). When I have time, I think I will revert back to 10.04 or maybe install 11.04 in another partition; any version of *buntu is better than Windoz -- at least Kubuntu has no real issues like Windoz that mess up your day. Have fun with this adventure - it not for the faint hearted but it makes life real interesting; being a programmer for over 30 years, I like solving problems and helping other people solve problems. Blessing, Jon Piper ********************* On 04/02/2011 10:05 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Saturday, April 02, 2011, Paul Lemmons wrote: >> When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on >> this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit >> version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been >> successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has >> been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has >> it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability >> wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare >> Workstation? > I used to feel the way you do and it took a long time for me to get a 64 bit > machine. > > But I built three of them about a year ago and the switch was painless... > > No problems at the moment whatever. I am sure there might be some apps that > didn't convert over... grip is one, but I think it was for other reasons than > 64bit. I don't think it is supported anymore... but it does run on 64 bit > and I still use it occasionally. > From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun Apr 3 10:48:36 2011 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:48:36 +0300 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 04:33, Paul Lemmons wrote: > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit version. > The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been successfully running the > pae version without any real hiccups.  It has been a long time since I > considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has it matured to the point where > it is as smooth, application and stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In > particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare Workstation? > My experience with 64 bit leads me to this: test Flash 64 bit on your hardware. If it works fine, then continue confiuring the system. If it doesn't, then install 32 bit and go from there. For most "common user" installs, the only thing holding desktop Linux back from 64 bit is Flash on some specific hardware. On other hardware it works fine. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From michael.renner at gmx.de Sun Apr 3 11:20:31 2011 From: michael.renner at gmx.de (Michael Renner) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:20:31 +0200 Subject: since yesterday: no sound :-( Message-ID: <201104031320.31547.michael.renner@gmx.de> Moin, I don;t know what I have done (wrong), but I can not record from the microphne device since yesterday. I use kubuntu lucid at an i386 with ALSA. Playback works fine, and I can hear the microphone sound from the speaker (as long as the microphone cannel is not muted). But neither with audacity, nor with xosope (or any other application) the microphone sound is available. With xmix, the microphne is selected as the recording device, amixer show this output: renner at lyra:~$ amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 25 [81%] [-9.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control '3D Control Sigmatel - Depth',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 2 [67%] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [3.00dB] [on] Front Right: Playback 25 [81%] [3.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround Phase Inversion',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Line',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 28 [90%] [7.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 28 [90%] [7.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'CD',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch- exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 22 [71%] [-1.50dB] [off] Front Left: Capture [on] Front Right: Capture [on] Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Mic1' 'Mic2' Item0: 'Mic1' Simple mixer control 'Video',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 18 [58%] [-7.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 18 [58%] [-7.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Phone',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch- exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Mono: Playback 19 [61%] [-6.00dB] [on] Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 15 Mono: Playback 9 [60%] [-18.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'Aux',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 31 Front Left: Playback 26 [84%] [4.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Front Right: Playback 26 [84%] [4.50dB] [on] Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mono Output Select',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Mix' 'Mic' Item0: 'Mix' Simple mixer control 'Capture',0 Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined penum Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Capture 0 - 15 Front Left: Capture 15 [100%] [22.50dB] [on] Front Right: Capture 15 [100%] [22.50dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'Mix',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0 Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-exclusive penum Capture exclusive group: 0 Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right Front Left: Capture [off] Front Right: Capture [off] Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Any hint? Thanks -- |Michael Renner E-mail: michael.renner at gmx.de | |D-81541 Munich Germany ICQ: #112280325 | |Germany Don't drink as root! ESC:wq From myriam at kubuntu.org Sun Apr 3 12:43:44 2011 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:43:44 +0200 Subject: Hello Everybody In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 04:38, wrote: > Hello Everybody > > I would like to know and ask for help. I have plans to buy a smartphone which is called Huawei U8150. Now to my question. Can one use KUbuntu 10.10 to control it and move mp3 in to it? And move pictures which one takes with it's camera? Because I would like to know. I have a sonyericsson xperia x10mini and have to say I hate sonyericsson because they just gave up on it. It uses Android 2.1 and will never get any newer Android because sonyericsson has decide that. That is why I want to buy a new one. The new one has Android 2.2 and is better then the one I have now. But I just would like to know if one can move pictures and music to and from it to my KUbuntu 10.10 computer? Hope someone knows this and hope you can help me. If you really want to invest in a recent smartphone using Android, you should buy an HTC Nexus S. It runs Android 2.3.3 and will get regular updates for that version as well. I have the previous version aka HTC Desire which is identical in build to the Nexus one. So far I am very happy with it, especially since I rooted the phone and installed Android 2.3.3 through the GingerVilain builds and I can now run it as what it is, a Linux computer, not just a dumbed-down HTC phone :) Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From kaj at haulrich.net Sun Apr 3 13:17:51 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:17:51 +0200 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <201104031517.51722.kaj@haulrich.net> On Sunday 03 April 2011 12:48:36 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 04:33, Paul Lemmons wrote: > > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has > > it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability > > wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare > > Workstation? > > My experience with 64 bit leads me to this: test Flash 64 bit on your > hardware. If it works fine, then continue confiuring the system. If it > doesn't, then install 32 bit and go from there. > > For most "common user" installs, the only thing holding desktop Linux > back from 64 bit is Flash on some specific hardware. On other hardware > it works fine. I'm running natty 64-bit beta, and the stock flashplayer was flaky, so I installed the experimental 64-bit version from Adobe Labs: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html runs fine - but remember to un-install the previous version first. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 11.04 --------- From paul at lemmons.name Sun Apr 3 15:27:41 2011 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:27:41 -0700 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D984F03.4070904@cox.net> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <201104022205.05702.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <4D984F03.4070904@cox.net> Message-ID: <4D9891ED.50907@lemmons.name> On 04/03/2011 03:42 AM, Jon Piper wrote: > some nitty things that are probably issues with 10.10. The most > aggravating is that when I go to a web page from Thunderbird (email), > it loads it in Konqueror instead of Firefox; I have reset the defaults > so they all point to Firefox but no soap. I have a desktop with 10.04 (64) I appreciate the response. This is off thread and I don't want to hijack my own topic but I just had the same problem with FF and did the following in tbird->pref->adv->config network.protocol-handler.warn-external.ftp true network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http true network.protocol-handler.warn-external.https true It will then prompt you for what browser to open. You can set it to FF and make it the default. From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Sun Apr 3 18:06:42 2011 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:06:42 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97DBC4.9060501@optonline.net> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <201104022214.24540.claydoh@claydoh.com> <4D97DBC4.9060501@optonline.net> Message-ID: <4D98B732.3080600@cfl.rr.com> On 4/2/2011 10:30 PM, Doug wrote: > On 04/02/2011 10:14 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > > /snip/ >> You won't see a difference. There really hasn't been a difference in >> years, >> really. Everything you list works the same, tho I have not used Vmware - >> Virtualbox works just dandy here. Run a livecd and see, is what i >> would do, or >> even dual-boot for a spell if you have a spare partition. That's what >> I did in >> deciding on 32 vs 64 bit on my desktop, primarily a Boxee/xbmc machine. >> Running that on 64 bit involved a lot of extra work a few years back, >> but when >> they started making 64bit versions, I dual-booted and saw no differences >> performance-wise, driver-wise, or flash-wise and what was broken in >> one was >> broken in th other :/ >> >> -- . >> Clay Weber >> http://kubuntuforums.net >> http://flyballmaine.com >> http://emacdogsports.com >> > I would think that 64-bit would have a really noticeable effect when > you get a bunch of > windows open, assuming you have some of the extra ram that 64-bit > supports. I don't > have the option of 64-bit with this machine, and I can see it really > bog down when I > do that.. (AAMOF, it will only allow me 2GB or ram.) Am I wrong? > > --doug > > What Clay Weber said is quite accurate. I have been running Kubuntu 64-bit for some years now with no problem. Some few programs are not designed for 64-bit, however, you can still run 32-bit programs. I have no problem running either type on my 8GB ram machine at least 5 years I can recall for sure. Good luck! Tom -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD ("Who will protect us from the protectors?") From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun Apr 3 19:31:12 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:31:12 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <201104031531.12499.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Saturday, April 02, 2011 09:33:48 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has > it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability > wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare > Workstation? > > I've been running 64-bit for a while now and everything goes very smoothly. The only isues, bit-wise, is that most 3rd party programs don't make 64-bit versions. As an example I tried to check out Lotus Notes last year and there was no 64-bit download. I didn't feel like going through the bother of getting it to run. Even that new CAD software (too lazy to look up the name) that just got opened up doesn't have a 64-bit version either. Right after you do your install add Medibuntu and install flash, java ,etc. You will have no problems ( at least I haven't since 8.10 or so). The package ia32-libs gets installed on dependencies and there is nothing in the repositories that will not work on it and most everything else uses it well. Firefox 2 through 4 runs/ran fine. If you have odd things happen with embedded flash objects in FF4, get the 64-bit beta version from adobe to fix it. What is really awesome for all FOSS is that there are less things that go wonky with Kubuntu 10.10 64-bit than with Win 7 64-bit. I had to get my wife a new machine and there are too many IE6 sites that she absolutely needs to do her job so I made her a modern beast of a computer and installed the other OS. Do you know that there is both a 32 and 64 bit version of IE and each is entirely separate. Twice the installs of AlternaTiff, f lash, etc and you can't even make the 64 bit version the default browser. Thankfuly she only needs that for two sites, FF for the rest. There are also some odd things that go wrong with it from time to time that are almost always impossible to reproduce.. The same software with the same settings creates different versions of /scanned/ documents than with on old XP. And let's not talk about sharing folders on our home network. Anyway, I guess what I am trying to say is the days of being wary of the 64-bit OS is past. Alan From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun Apr 3 19:34:22 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:34:22 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <201104031517.51722.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <201104031517.51722.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <201104031534.23239.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Sunday, April 03, 2011 09:17:51 am Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Sunday 03 April 2011 12:48:36 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 04:33, Paul Lemmons wrote: > > > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > > > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > > > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > > > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > > > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has > > > it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability > > > wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare > > > Workstation? > > > > My experience with 64 bit leads me to this: test Flash 64 bit on your > > hardware. If it works fine, then continue confiuring the system. If it > > doesn't, then install 32 bit and go from there. > > > > For most "common user" installs, the only thing holding desktop Linux > > back from 64 bit is Flash on some specific hardware. On other hardware > > it works fine. > > I'm running natty 64-bit beta, and the stock flashplayer was flaky, so I > installed the experimental 64-bit version from Adobe Labs: > > http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html > > runs fine - but remember to un-install the previous version first. > > Kaj Haulrich. > I used the same beta from adobe but I just overwrote the file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so No problems at all, it actually makes flash in Firefox 4 work. Alan From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun Apr 3 19:38:00 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:38:00 -0400 Subject: since yesterday: no sound :-( In-Reply-To: <201104031320.31547.michael.renner@gmx.de> References: <201104031320.31547.michael.renner@gmx.de> Message-ID: <201104031538.00137.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Sunday, April 03, 2011 07:20:31 am Michael Renner wrote: > Moin, > > I don;t know what I have done (wrong), but I can not record from the microphne > device since yesterday. > > I use kubuntu lucid at an i386 with ALSA. Playback works fine, and I can hear > the microphone sound from the speaker (as long as the microphone cannel is not > muted). But neither with audacity, nor with xosope (or any other application) > the microphone sound is available. > > With xmix, the microphne is selected as the recording device, amixer show this > output: > > renner at lyra:~$ amixer > Simple mixer control 'Master',0 >[snip] > Mono: Playback [on] > > > > Any hint? > Thanks > Is pavucontrol installed? If not install it and use it first before you start pulling your hair out. Alan From temps.jo at gmail.com Sun Apr 3 19:56:42 2011 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (pierre jocelyn andre) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:56:42 +0200 Subject: since yesterday: no sound :-( In-Reply-To: <201104031538.00137.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201104031320.31547.michael.renner@gmx.de> <201104031538.00137.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: Look at :openAl http://connect.creativelabs.com/openal/default.aspx via synaptic 2011/4/3 Alan Dacey Sr. > On Sunday, April 03, 2011 07:20:31 am Michael Renner wrote: > > Moin, > > > > I don;t know what I have done (wrong), but I can not record from the > microphne > > device since yesterday. > > > > I use kubuntu lucid at an i386 with ALSA. Playback works fine, and I can > hear > > the microphone sound from the speaker (as long as the microphone cannel > is not > > muted). But neither with audacity, nor with xosope (or any other > application) > > the microphone sound is available. > > > > With xmix, the microphne is selected as the recording device, amixer show > this > > output: > > > > renner at lyra:~$ amixer > > Simple mixer control 'Master',0 > > >[snip] > > > Mono: Playback [on] > > > > > > > > Any hint? > > Thanks > > > > Is pavucontrol installed? If not install it and use it first before you > start pulling your hair out. > > Alan > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Apr 3 23:04:38 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:04:38 -0400 Subject: If ubuntu wanted to really help themselves Message-ID: <201104031904.38358.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> they should really look for a better bug tracker than Launchpad. I know, if you reported 1 bug a week, you might get used to it. But I REFUSE to spend the time with this complex process to re-learn it every 6 months. I've rather spend the time looking for work-arounds. Much more productive. From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Apr 3 23:37:36 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:37:36 -0400 Subject: If ubuntu wanted to really help themselves In-Reply-To: <201104031904.38358.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201104031904.38358.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201104031937.36414.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday, April 03, 2011 07:04:38 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > they should really look for a better bug tracker than Launchpad. > > I know, if you reported 1 bug a week, you might get used to it. > > But I REFUSE to spend the time with this complex process to re-learn it > every 6 months. > > I've rather spend the time looking for work-arounds. Much more productive. A way to mitigate the pain is to try this: $ ubuntu-bug dolphin or whatever app is the subject. If unsure, just use 'linux' https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting The wizard will udsually fill in the blanks for you package-name wise, etc. as it walks you through it; for example in my example using dolphin, it selects the package 'kdebae' if you look in the details section. It isn't perfect, but it sure makes it about on par with other bug trackers I have used. But if it is application-related, ie not something specific to ubuntu/kubuntu you might consider reporting directly to kde from the program's Help menu. It also walks you through things a bit on their tracker. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From tentaro at hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 00:10:34 2011 From: tentaro at hotmail.com (Terry Madore Jr) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:10:34 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? Message-ID: I am not so sure about 64bit yet.....wireless drivers are still sketchy. I can't get the same card other people have gotten to work on 32bit to work on 64bit. It's kind of off putting and hurts my chances of moving to Ubuntu permanently ( I run dualboot Win7/Kubuntu at the moment). But hey if you have wired connection, I have yet to find anything that I wanted to use that I couldn't ...besides my wireless card :( Also not sure if this a 64bit driver thing or not but I can't get my TV card to work either. But that I can live without for now. So I have only run 64bit but I am planning on possibly switching to 32bit when Narwhal hits. From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Mon Apr 4 03:32:24 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:32:24 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201104032332.24314.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Sunday, April 03, 2011 08:10:34 pm Terry Madore Jr wrote: > I am not so sure about 64bit yet.....wireless drivers are still sketchy. > I can't get the same card other people have gotten to work on 32bit to > work on 64bit. It's kind of off putting and hurts my chances of moving > to Ubuntu permanently ( I run dualboot Win7/Kubuntu at the moment). But > hey if you have wired connection, I have yet to find anything that I > wanted to use that I couldn't ...besides my wireless card :( Also not > sure if this a 64bit driver thing or not but I can't get my TV card to > work either. But that I can live without for now. So I have only run > 64bit but I am planning on possibly switching to 32bit when Narwhal hits. > > Well if you have more than 4gigs of memory and still want to use it all on a 32-bit system then install the pae kernel, maybe start with installing the server version to make it real easy :) I do a lot of video encoding and ripping and 64-bit software has more horsepower that I really want. My Dell Latitude laptop dual boots with 64-bit Kubuntu and it has no problems with wireless (at least since NetworkManager actually started managing the network) Alan From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 07:25:01 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:25:01 +0300 Subject: Syncing folders over network -- syntax In-Reply-To: <201104011353.00125.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201104011215.59632.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201104011253.04837.info@alvin.be> <201104011353.00125.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201104041025.02023.gkourtev@gmail.com> On Friday, April 01, 2011 14:52:57 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Freitag 01 April 2011, 12:53:03, Alvin wrote: > > On Friday 01 April 2011 11:15:59 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am trying to sync one folder of my PC with a network folder under > > > samba. Is this the correct syntax: > > > > > > rsync -r -t -v --progress -s /home/Documents/Folder smb://PC- > > > desktop/share/Documents > > > > > > I have error when using the above. The output of rsync is > > > > > > ssh: Could not resolve hostname smb: Name or service not known > > > rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) > > > [sender] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) > > > [sender=3.0.7] Rsync process exit status: 255 > > > > You can't use KIOslaves (smb://) at the command line (as far as I know). > > > > There are different solutions here: > > - Mount the share and rsync (only solution when destination is Windows): > > # mount -t cifs -o username= //pc-desktop/share/Documents > > /mnt # rsync -rt --progress /home/Documents/Folder/ /mnt/ > > > > - Set up an rsync server or use rsync over ssh > > # rsync -rt --progress /home/Documents/Folder/ rsync://pc- > > desktop/share/Documents/ > > # rsync -rt --progress -e ssh /home/Documents/Folder/ pc- > > desktop:/share/Documents/ > > Actually, seeing as how rsync is closely affiliated with samba, you can use > rsync with samba. I believe a samba host is addressed as > samba:/ in rsync, but I might be mistaken. See man rsync for > details. > > --Reinhold This is what I thought too. However none of the syntaxes proposed do not got the job done. Other ideas? gk From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Mon Apr 4 07:50:38 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:50:38 +0100 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D98B732.3080600@cfl.rr.com> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <201104022214.24540.claydoh@claydoh.com> <4D97DBC4.9060501@optonline.net> <4D98B732.3080600@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <4D99784E.6060305@drofle.co.uk> Tom Bell wrote: >> > What Clay Weber said is quite accurate. I have been running Kubuntu 64-bit > for some years now with no problem. Some few programs are not designed for > 64-bit, however, you can still run 32-bit programs. I have no problem > running either type on my 8GB ram machine at least 5 years I can recall > for sure. > Good luck! > > Tom > I have recently installed Linux Mint 10 KDE 64 bit on my new computer. I too thought that it would also run 32 bit programs. Well, that is if you can get them installed. I downloaded the 32 bit version of Realplayer, the .deb version. When I tried to install it I got an error message that it was the wrong version. So I will have to wait for the 64 bit version to be ready. Of course, there may be other ways to install the 32 bit version, but for the moment I won't bother. I have other programs which will do the job. Neil From rrumberger at web.de Mon Apr 4 09:59:16 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (reini) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:59:16 +0200 Subject: Syncing folders over network -- syntax In-Reply-To: <201104041025.02023.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201104011215.59632.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201104011353.00125.rrumberger@web.de> <201104041025.02023.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104041159.18285.rrumberger@web.de> On Montag 04 April 2011, 09:25:01, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > On Friday, April 01, 2011 14:52:57 Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > On Freitag 01 April 2011, 12:53:03, Alvin wrote: > > > On Friday 01 April 2011 11:15:59 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I am trying to sync one folder of my PC with a network folder under > > > > samba. Is this the correct syntax: > > > > > > > > rsync -r -t -v --progress -s /home/Documents/Folder smb://PC- > > > > desktop/share/Documents > > > > > > > > I have error when using the above. The output of rsync is > > > > > > > > ssh: Could not resolve hostname smb: Name or service not known > > > > rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) > > > > [sender] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) > > > > [sender=3.0.7] Rsync process exit status: 255 > > > > > > You can't use KIOslaves (smb://) at the command line (as far as I > > > know). > > > > > > There are different solutions here: > > > - Mount the share and rsync (only solution when destination is > > > Windows): # mount -t cifs -o username= > > > //pc-desktop/share/Documents /mnt # rsync -rt --progress > > > /home/Documents/Folder/ /mnt/ > > > > > > - Set up an rsync server or use rsync over ssh > > > # rsync -rt --progress /home/Documents/Folder/ rsync://pc- > > > desktop/share/Documents/ > > > # rsync -rt --progress -e ssh /home/Documents/Folder/ pc- > > > desktop:/share/Documents/ > > > > Actually, seeing as how rsync is closely affiliated with samba, you can > > use rsync with samba. I believe a samba host is addressed as > > samba:/ in rsync, but I might be mistaken. See man rsync for > > details. > > > > --Reinhold > > This is what I thought too. However none of the syntaxes proposed do not > got the job done. Other ideas? I'm pretty sure I saw a colleague using rsync with a windows share, so I guess I'll ask him whenever I see him next and he actually has some time. Until then, if the method Alvin describes doesn't work for you (and there are some good reasons why it might not), do you have admin privileges on the remote machine? If so, you might want to set up an rsyncd and use that. This would likely cut down on network traffic, too. --Reinhold From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Mon Apr 4 13:18:18 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:18:18 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <201104040918.19284.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Saturday, April 02, 2011 09:33:48 pm Paul Lemmons wrote: > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has > it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and stability > wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare > Workstation? > > Here is a relevant article on Phoronix about 64 vs 32 bit performance: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_natty_pae64&num=1 Alan From mmtsales at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 14:10:46 2011 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:10:46 -0300 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: 2011/4/2 Paul Lemmons > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first on > this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit version. > The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been successfully running the > pae version without any real hiccups. It has been a long time since I > considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering has it matured to the point where > it is as smooth, application and stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In > particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare Workstation? > I consider the 64 bit version quite stable. About the specific applications you mentioned: Firefox - as stable as its plugins allow it to be. If a plugin crashes, all browser windows crash, but it's the same in the 32 bit version (at least for now. Firefox 4 is supposed to change this, but I didn't test it yet). Flash - unstable. But the 32 bit version is not very stable either. Java - very stable VMWare Workstation - I don't use it, but I use Virtualbox and it is very stable. In my opinion, flash is the most unstable software among those I use in the 64 bit version. And, because of it, Firefox may become unstable too. However, without flash installed, Firefox is reasonably stable. All other applications I use are very stable in the 64 bit version. []'s Marcelo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Apr 4 14:55:39 2011 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:55:39 +0100 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? Message-ID: <4D99DBEB.8040905@blueyonder.co.uk> This is a question that seemed to have been late by years getting across the internet. The only issues in the early days of 64-bit was in building 32-bit apps and with some source not 64-bit aware. For over 7 years I've been using 64-bit OS's on multiple boxes and laptops here and on installs I have done for others. I have 5 up and running here 24x7x365 1/4. It's a non-issue and I have never installed or used 32-bit on a 64-bit box. As for wireless drivers, I've not had a problem on any of the 5. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From info at alvin.be Mon Apr 4 15:13:27 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 17:13:27 +0200 Subject: If ubuntu wanted to really help themselves In-Reply-To: <201104031937.36414.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201104031904.38358.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201104031937.36414.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4D99E017.5060302@alvin.be> On 04/04/2011 01:37, Clay Weber wrote: > On Sunday, April 03, 2011 07:04:38 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: >> they should really look for a better bug tracker than Launchpad. >> >> I know, if you reported 1 bug a week, you might get used to it. >> >> But I REFUSE to spend the time with this complex process to re-learn it >> every 6 months. >> >> I've rather spend the time looking for work-arounds. Much more productive. > A way to mitigate the pain is to try this: > > $ ubuntu-bug dolphin > or whatever app is the subject. If unsure, just use 'linux' > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting > > The wizard will udsually fill in the blanks for you package-name wise, etc. as > it walks you through it; for example in my example using dolphin, it selects > the package 'kdebae' if you look in the details section. It isn't perfect, but > it sure makes it about on par with other bug trackers I have used. > > But if it is application-related, ie not something specific to ubuntu/kubuntu > you might consider reporting directly to kde from the program's Help menu. It > also walks you through things a bit on their tracker. Yes, some bugs belong in the KDE bug tracker. Read more here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/timelord "To increase the efficiency of our bug trackers, only serious upstream bugs will be tracked at Launchpad. This way developers will be able to efficiently track distribution-specific issues without being lost in a sea of upstream bugs." It is indeed not easy to file bugs for the KDE part of Kubuntu. KDE bugfix releases are made every month. New bugs are also introduced with those releases, so you have to install from PPA to receive both the fixes and the new bugs. Reporting with ubuntu-bug does not support PPA. They have to be files manually with kubuntu-ppa as package. Most of them should also be reported upstream. From michael.renner at gmx.de Mon Apr 4 17:53:03 2011 From: michael.renner at gmx.de (Michael Renner) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:53:03 +0200 Subject: since yesterday: no sound :-( In-Reply-To: <201104031538.00137.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> References: <201104031320.31547.michael.renner@gmx.de> <201104031538.00137.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <201104041953.03899.michael.renner@gmx.de> On Sunday 03 April 2011, Alan Dacey Sr. wrote: > On Sunday, April 03, 2011 07:20:31 am Michael Renner wrote: > > Moin, > > > > I don;t know what I have done (wrong), but I can not record from the > > microphne device since yesterday. [...] > Is pavucontrol installed? If not install it and use it first before you > start pulling your hair out. thanks. The problem is gone, but I don't know why. I booted into kernel 2.6.32-28 to check if there is a connection between my sound problem and the kernel update I installed 2 days ago. The sound worked with the former kernel. Also with 2.6.32-29. But the supprise was: now it is working with 2.6.32-30. A cough? Is there a kind of history for updates? Thanks -- |Michael Renner E-mail: michael.renner at gmx.de | |D-81541 Munich Germany ICQ: #112280325 | |Germany Don't drink as root! ESC:wq From paul at lemmons.name Mon Apr 4 20:27:52 2011 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:27:52 -0700 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> Paul Lemmons wrote: > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first > on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering > has it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and > stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? > Java? VMWare Workstation? > I really appreciate the flood responses to this. If I am reading them all correctly I hear that 64bit is stable with the exception of flash which does not get high marks on the 32 bit version either. There is a beta version of flash that appears to be less unstable. All else sounds like they should work as expected. To try things out I installed Kubuntu-64 natty beta1 in a VM. It looks fine. The only gotcha so far is that I can't find sun-java6. It does not appear in any of the repositories. I might be able to live without stable flash but I really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to use. Does anybody know if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a PPA for it? From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:39:17 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 06:39:17 +1000 Subject: Enable debug in Firefox compile In-Reply-To: <201103262146.47639.kassube@gmx.net> References: <1300923522.14048.1433174877@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201103261536.38153.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201103261543.31442.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201103262146.47639.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils or any one else, I have lost the ability to choose whether I want FF3.6 to be my default browser, evan though in the preferences tab I have it ticked to check that it asks to be the default browser,(as now google chrome is) so how can I get it back to asking that question as I want to be able to use different browsers? ray On 3/27/11, Nils Kassube wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: >> On Saturday, March 26, 2011 03:36:38 PM Jerry Lapham wrote: >> > If you have firefox_dbg installed do you get another 175MB >> > download every time firefox is updated? >> >> yes, but it is 'only' 62 mb for firefox 3.6.15 :D, for 4.0, its about >> 100mb > > Oh, my bad - I mixed up the numbers for package size and memory usage. > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 20:44:57 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 06:44:57 +1000 Subject: start=up disk creator Message-ID: anyone help, I am now testing Kubuntu 10.10m and I am trying to create a startup disk creator, but when it starts it says in window to load cd ot click other, of which I load the cd to write to but hangs there? ray From kaj at haulrich.net Mon Apr 4 21:44:02 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 23:44:02 +0200 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <201104042344.02596.kaj@haulrich.net> On Monday 04 April 2011 22:27:52 Paul Lemmons wrote: > Paul Lemmons wrote: > > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first > > on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit > > version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been > > successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has > > been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering > > has it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and > > stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? > > Java? VMWare Workstation? > > I really appreciate the flood responses to this. If I am reading them > all correctly I hear that 64bit is stable with the exception of flash > which does not get high marks on the 32 bit version either. There is a > beta version of flash that appears to be less unstable. All else sounds > like they should work as expected. > > To try things out I installed Kubuntu-64 natty beta1 in a VM. It looks > fine. The only gotcha so far is that I can't find sun-java6. It does not > appear in any of the repositories. I might be able to live without > stable flash but I really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to > use. Does anybody know if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a > PPA for it? Then why not install the most recent 64-bit version from Sun: http://tinyurl.com/39na2t Works like a charm here. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 11.04 --------- From paul at lemmons.name Mon Apr 4 23:46:21 2011 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 16:46:21 -0700 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <201104042344.02596.kaj@haulrich.net> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> <201104042344.02596.kaj@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <4D9A584D.6070504@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? From: Kaj Haulrich To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: 04/04/2011 02:44 PM > On Monday 04 April 2011 22:27:52 Paul Lemmons wrote: >> Paul Lemmons wrote: >>> When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first >>> on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit >>> version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been >>> successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has >>> been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering >>> has it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and >>> stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? >>> Java? VMWare Workstation? >> >> I really appreciate the flood responses to this. If I am reading them >> all correctly I hear that 64bit is stable with the exception of flash >> which does not get high marks on the 32 bit version either. There is a >> beta version of flash that appears to be less unstable. All else sounds >> like they should work as expected. >> >> To try things out I installed Kubuntu-64 natty beta1 in a VM. It looks >> fine. The only gotcha so far is that I can't find sun-java6. It does not >> appear in any of the repositories. I might be able to live without >> stable flash but I really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to >> use. Does anybody know if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a >> PPA for it? > > Then why not install the most recent 64-bit version from Sun: > > http://tinyurl.com/39na2t > > Works like a charm here. > > Kaj Haulrich. Found a ppa. It also appears to be charmed :) http://bit.ly/eQSJTD From joelol75 at verizon.net Tue Apr 5 00:03:14 2011 From: joelol75 at verizon.net (Joel Oliver) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 20:03:14 -0400 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? Message-ID: Imo 64 bit has been ready since fiesty Paul Lemmons wrote: >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Re: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? >From: Kaj Haulrich >To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Date: 04/04/2011 02:44 PM > >> On Monday 04 April 2011 22:27:52 Paul Lemmons wrote: >>> Paul Lemmons wrote: >>>> When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My first >>>> on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering the 64 bit >>>> version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have been >>>> successfully running the pae version without any real hiccups. It has >>>> been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit and was wondering >>>> has it matured to the point where it is as smooth, application and >>>> stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? >>>> Java? VMWare Workstation? >>> >>> I really appreciate the flood responses to this. If I am reading them >>> all correctly I hear that 64bit is stable with the exception of flash >>> which does not get high marks on the 32 bit version either. There is a >>> beta version of flash that appears to be less unstable. All else sounds >>> like they should work as expected. >>> >>> To try things out I installed Kubuntu-64 natty beta1 in a VM. It looks >>> fine. The only gotcha so far is that I can't find sun-java6. It does not >>> appear in any of the repositories. I might be able to live without >>> stable flash but I really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to >>> use. Does anybody know if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a >>> PPA for it? >> >> Then why not install the most recent 64-bit version from Sun: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/39na2t >> >> Works like a charm here. >> >> Kaj Haulrich. > >Found a ppa. It also appears to be charmed :) > >http://bit.ly/eQSJTD > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From rayburke30 at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 02:14:30 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:14:30 +1000 Subject: re pidgin reconfigure for NM to noice dial up Message-ID: anyone help Kubuntu8.04 kde 3.5 My problem is that pidgin will simply sit saying "waiting for network connection" forever without even attempting to connect then that is caused by NM not knowing your dialup connection exists. so how do I reconfigure NM to accept my dialup? ray From errol at tzora.co.il Tue Apr 5 03:27:06 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 06:27:06 +0300 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4D9A8C0A.5020202@tzora.co.il> On 04/04/2011 05:10 PM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > > 2011/4/2 Paul Lemmons > > > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My > first on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering > the 64 bit version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I have > been successfully running the pae version without any real > hiccups. It has been a long time since I considered "real" 64 bit > and was wondering has it matured to the point where it is as > smooth, application and stability wise, as the 32 bit version? In > particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare Workstation? > > > I consider the 64 bit version quite stable. About the specific > applications you mentioned: > Firefox - as stable as its plugins allow it to be. If a plugin > crashes, all browser windows crash, but it's the same in the 32 bit > version (at least for now. Firefox 4 is supposed to change this, but I > didn't test it yet). > Flash - unstable. But the 32 bit version is not very stable either. > Java - very stable > VMWare Workstation - I don't use it, but I use Virtualbox and it is > very stable. > > In my opinion, flash is the most unstable software among those I use > in the 64 bit version. And, because of it, Firefox may become unstable > too. However, without flash installed, Firefox is reasonably stable. > All other applications I use are very stable in the 64 bit version. > > []'s > Marcelo Is having more than 4 giga ram the only or main reason to use the 64 bit installation? Are there any advantages to using the 64 bit with less than 4 giga. I have a 64 bit machine but less than 4 giga ram. Should I change to 64 bit Kubuntu? Errol -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 09:54:26 2011 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:54:26 +0300 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 23:27, Paul Lemmons wrote: > To try things out I installed Kubuntu-64 natty beta1 in a VM. It looks fine. > The only gotcha so far is that I can't find sun-java6. It does not appear in > any of the repositories. I might be able to live without stable flash but I > really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to use. Does anybody know > if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a PPA for it? > You cannot test for hardware incompatibilities in a virtual machine. If you want to know if 64 bit Flash will give problems on your hardware, then install it on the hardware, not in a VM. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From dotancohen at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 09:56:47 2011 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:56:47 +0300 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D9A584D.6070504@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> <201104042344.02596.kaj@haulrich.net> <4D9A584D.6070504@lemmons.name> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 02:46, Paul Lemmons wrote: >>> I might be able to live without >>> stable flash but I really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to >>> use. Does anybody know if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a >>> PPA for it? >> >> Then why not install the most recent 64-bit version from Sun: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/39na2t >> >> Works like a charm here. >> >> Kaj Haulrich. > > Found a ppa. It also appears to be charmed :) > > http://bit.ly/eQSJTD > That link is giving me a 500 error. What is the real URL? And why on earth would you use a redirect service to add yet another weak link in the chain? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From paul at lemmons.name Tue Apr 5 17:40:47 2011 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:40:47 -0700 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4D9B541F.7020700@lemmons.name> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? From: Dotan Cohen To: Kubuntu user technical support Cc: Paul Lemmons Date: 04/05/2011 02:54 AM > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 23:27, Paul Lemmons wrote: >> To try things out I installed Kubuntu-64 natty beta1 in a VM. It looks fine. >> The only gotcha so far is that I can't find sun-java6. It does not appear in >> any of the repositories. I might be able to live without stable flash but I >> really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to use. Does anybody know >> if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a PPA for it? >> > > You cannot test for hardware incompatibilities in a virtual machine. > If you want to know if 64 bit Flash will give problems on your > hardware, then install it on the hardware, not in a VM. > > I agree. I am testing various other programs in the VM; specifically java apps. I use Kubuntu as my only desktop where I work and there are a number of java based systems management programs that I can verify in a VM. So far the important ones work without any problems(IBM HMC, EMC Navisphere, EMC RecoverPoint). The ones that don't work, suffer similarly under the 32bit distro (Kronos, Avocent DSView). Java appears to be mox-nix. I will verify the hardware with a live DVD before I do a clean install. From paul at lemmons.name Tue Apr 5 17:41:00 2011 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:41:00 -0700 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> <201104042344.02596.kaj@haulrich.net> <4D9A584D.6070504@lemmons.name> Message-ID: <4D9B542C.3010506@lemmons.name> Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 02:46, Paul Lemmons wrote: >>>> I might be able to live without >>>> stable flash but I really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to >>>> use. Does anybody know if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a >>>> PPA for it? >>> Then why not install the most recent 64-bit version from Sun: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/39na2t >>> >>> Works like a charm here. >>> >>> Kaj Haulrich. >> Found a ppa. It also appears to be charmed :) >> >> http://bit.ly/eQSJTD >> > That link is giving me a 500 error. What is the real URL? And why on > earth would you use a redirect service to add yet another weak link in > the chain? > Good morning Dotan, Here is the original link: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/ A 500 means that the link is good, the server is having problems. And... I generally hate long links :) From jonorland at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 19:38:43 2011 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:38:43 +0200 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A29C8.6030208@lemmons.name> Message-ID: 2011/4/4 Paul Lemmons : > To try things out I installed Kubuntu-64 natty beta1 in a VM. It looks fine. > The only gotcha so far is that I can't find sun-java6. It does not appear in > any of the repositories. I might be able to live without stable flash but I > really need sun-java for some of the apps I have to use. Does anybody know > if this is coming to the repo's or if there is a PPA for it? > I got sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-jdk version 6.24-1build0.10.10.1 don't you have them in your repository? No need to install from a PPA. / Jonas From mmtsales at gmail.com Tue Apr 5 22:59:06 2011 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:59:06 -0300 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <4D9A8C0A.5020202@tzora.co.il> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A8C0A.5020202@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <201104051959.06550.mmtsales@gmail.com> Em terça-feira 05 abril 2011, Errol Sapir escreveu: > On 04/04/2011 05:10 PM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > 2011/4/2 Paul Lemmons > > > > > > When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My > > first on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering > > the 64 bit version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I > > have been successfully running the pae version without any > > real hiccups. It has been a long time since I considered > > "real" 64 bit and was wondering has it matured to the point > > where it is as smooth, application and stability wise, as the > > 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare > > Workstation? > > > > I consider the 64 bit version quite stable. About the specific > > applications you mentioned: > > Firefox - as stable as its plugins allow it to be. If a plugin > > crashes, all browser windows crash, but it's the same in the 32 bit > > version (at least for now. Firefox 4 is supposed to change this, > > but I didn't test it yet). > > Flash - unstable. But the 32 bit version is not very stable either. > > Java - very stable > > VMWare Workstation - I don't use it, but I use Virtualbox and it is > > very stable. > > > > In my opinion, flash is the most unstable software among those I > > use in the 64 bit version. And, because of it, Firefox may become > > unstable too. However, without flash installed, Firefox is > > reasonably stable. All other applications I use are very stable in > > the 64 bit version. > > > > []'s > > Marcelo > > Is having more than 4 giga ram the only or main reason to use the 64 > bit installation? Are there any advantages to using the 64 bit with > less than 4 giga. I have a 64 bit machine but less than 4 giga ram. > Should I change to 64 bit Kubuntu? > > Errol Applications that do intensive calculations can benefit from a 64 bits architecture too. On the other hand, 64 bits softwares generally use more memory than their 32 bits counterparts. If you don't have more than 4 Gb and do not run software that do intensive calculation, maybe it's better to stay with the 32 bits version. Either way, for most applications a regular user runs, you probably won't notice any difference. []'s Marcelo From errol at tzora.co.il Wed Apr 6 03:14:23 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 06:14:23 +0300 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <201104051959.06550.mmtsales@gmail.com> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A8C0A.5020202@tzora.co.il> <201104051959.06550.mmtsales@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D9BDA8F.4080907@tzora.co.il> On 04/06/2011 01:59 AM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > Em terça-feira 05 abril 2011, Errol Sapir escreveu: >> On 04/04/2011 05:10 PM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >>> 2011/4/2 Paul Lemmons>> > >>> >>> When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My >>> first on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering >>> the 64 bit version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I >>> have been successfully running the pae version without any >>> real hiccups. It has been a long time since I considered >>> "real" 64 bit and was wondering has it matured to the point >>> where it is as smooth, application and stability wise, as the >>> 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare >>> Workstation? >>> >>> I consider the 64 bit version quite stable. About the specific >>> applications you mentioned: >>> Firefox - as stable as its plugins allow it to be. If a plugin >>> crashes, all browser windows crash, but it's the same in the 32 bit >>> version (at least for now. Firefox 4 is supposed to change this, >>> but I didn't test it yet). >>> Flash - unstable. But the 32 bit version is not very stable either. >>> Java - very stable >>> VMWare Workstation - I don't use it, but I use Virtualbox and it is >>> very stable. >>> >>> In my opinion, flash is the most unstable software among those I >>> use in the 64 bit version. And, because of it, Firefox may become >>> unstable too. However, without flash installed, Firefox is >>> reasonably stable. All other applications I use are very stable in >>> the 64 bit version. >>> >>> []'s >>> Marcelo >> Is having more than 4 giga ram the only or main reason to use the 64 >> bit installation? Are there any advantages to using the 64 bit with >> less than 4 giga. I have a 64 bit machine but less than 4 giga ram. >> Should I change to 64 bit Kubuntu? >> >> Errol > Applications that do intensive calculations can benefit from a 64 bits > architecture too. On the other hand, 64 bits softwares generally use > more memory than their 32 bits counterparts. If you don't have more than > 4 Gb and do not run software that do intensive calculation, maybe it's > better to stay with the 32 bits version. > Either way, for most applications a regular user runs, you probably > won't notice any difference. > > []'s > Marcelo > > ‎ Thanks for the info Marcelo I guess I'll stay with 32 bit (at least until I change my computer:-) ) Errol From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 09:04:31 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 11:04:31 +0200 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? In-Reply-To: <201104051959.06550.mmtsales@gmail.com> References: <4D97CE7C.5050805@lemmons.name> <4D9A8C0A.5020202@tzora.co.il> <201104051959.06550.mmtsales@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D9C2C9F.7070500@gmail.com> On 06/04/2011 00:59, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > Em terça-feira 05 abril 2011, Errol Sapir escreveu: >> On 04/04/2011 05:10 PM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: >>> 2011/4/2 Paul Lemmons>> > >>> >>> When Natty comes out I am planning on doing a clean install. My >>> first on this particular machine since Feisty. I am considering >>> the 64 bit version. The machine has more than 4GB of ram so I >>> have been successfully running the pae version without any >>> real hiccups. It has been a long time since I considered >>> "real" 64 bit and was wondering has it matured to the point >>> where it is as smooth, application and stability wise, as the >>> 32 bit version? In particular: Firefox? Flash? Java? VMWare >>> Workstation? >>> >>> I consider the 64 bit version quite stable. About the specific >>> applications you mentioned: >>> Firefox - as stable as its plugins allow it to be. If a plugin >>> crashes, all browser windows crash, but it's the same in the 32 bit >>> version (at least for now. Firefox 4 is supposed to change this, >>> but I didn't test it yet). >>> Flash - unstable. But the 32 bit version is not very stable either. >>> Java - very stable >>> VMWare Workstation - I don't use it, but I use Virtualbox and it is >>> very stable. >>> >>> In my opinion, flash is the most unstable software among those I >>> use in the 64 bit version. And, because of it, Firefox may become >>> unstable too. However, without flash installed, Firefox is >>> reasonably stable. All other applications I use are very stable in >>> the 64 bit version. >>> >>> []'s >>> Marcelo >> >> Is having more than 4 giga ram the only or main reason to use the 64 >> bit installation? Are there any advantages to using the 64 bit with >> less than 4 giga. I have a 64 bit machine but less than 4 giga ram. >> Should I change to 64 bit Kubuntu? >> >> Errol > > Applications that do intensive calculations can benefit from a 64 bits > architecture too. On the other hand, 64 bits softwares generally use > more memory than their 32 bits counterparts. If you don't have more than > 4 Gb and do not run software that do intensive calculation, maybe it's > better to stay with the 32 bits version. > Either way, for most applications a regular user runs, you probably > won't notice any difference. From my experience that should read "more than 3GB RAM". My "plain" kubuntu can not see more at least, the pae version can see 4 but then you migh as well go 64... From christer_wickman at telia.com Wed Apr 6 12:40:20 2011 From: christer_wickman at telia.com (Christer Wickman) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:40:20 +0200 Subject: Problem with Firefox 4 Message-ID: <201104061440.20325.christer_wickman@telia.com> Hi Everybody I would like to ask if there is someone else who has problem with Firefox 4? I upgraded to Firefox from Firefox 3.6.16 I think it was. But everytime I start it, it crashes. Is there anyway to fix this problem or should I use the web browser I like to use the Google Chrome. Which I like better. I hope someone can help me with this problem. Thank you before hand. Yours Christer From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 13:00:11 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:00:11 +0200 Subject: Problem with Firefox 4 In-Reply-To: <201104061440.20325.christer_wickman@telia.com> References: <201104061440.20325.christer_wickman@telia.com> Message-ID: <4D9C63DB.30102@gmail.com> On 06/04/11 14:40, Christer Wickman wrote: > Hi Everybody > > I would like to ask if there is someone else who has problem with Firefox 4? I > upgraded to Firefox from Firefox 3.6.16 I think it was. But everytime I start > it, it crashes. Is there anyway to fix this problem or should I use the web > browser I like to use the Google Chrome. Which I like better. I hope someone > can help me with this problem. Thank you before hand. > > Yours > Christer > Try starting it from Konsole by typing firefox and pressing enter, that way you should be getting some output that might help us figuring out what the problem is. If you don't have any important passwords or bookmarks you could also try renaming the firefox folder inside /home//.mozilla, when you later start firefox a new folder will be created. -- Isak ~~~~~ Powered by CrunchBang Linux http://crunchbanglinux.org/ From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Apr 6 13:04:44 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:04:44 +0200 Subject: Problem with Firefox 4 In-Reply-To: <201104061440.20325.christer_wickman@telia.com> References: <201104061440.20325.christer_wickman@telia.com> Message-ID: <4D9C64EC.3010201@gmail.com> On 06/04/2011 14:40, Christer Wickman wrote: > Hi Everybody > > I would like to ask if there is someone else who has problem with Firefox 4? I > upgraded to Firefox from Firefox 3.6.16 I think it was. But everytime I start > it, it crashes. Is there anyway to fix this problem or should I use the web > browser I like to use the Google Chrome. Which I like better. I hope someone > can help me with this problem. Thank you before hand. I can not help you much except for stating that FF4 installed via mozill-daily ppa works very well for me. I use both FF and Chromium but tend to use FF as the main browser From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed Apr 6 15:39:35 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 16:39:35 +0100 Subject: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? (O. Sinclair) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D9C8937.1040307@btinternet.com> On 06/04/2011 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Re: is 64 bit ready for primetime yet? (O. Sinclair) I've been running various kubuntu versions on my Asus amd64 motherboard for 2-3 years now with no major problems and very few minor ones - mainly with applications. My motherboard had a catastrophic burn up (in the NVidia chipset area as far as I can determine). I don't think there's a problem with the memory or the processor. I've had to retire the whole tower, of course - if any-one wants the amd64 bit processor or the 2 x 2GB + 2 x 1CB memory boards there welcome to them for the price of the postage. brian From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sun Apr 10 10:36:48 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: kde 4.6.2 shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <390284285.886477.1302431638870.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> After upgrading to 4.6.2 on kubuntu maverick, I noticed that the shutdown menu item isn't working correctly. Calling shutdown from the K menu causes kde and X to stop, but leaves me at VT1 with a login prompt. 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URL: From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sun Apr 10 10:55:37 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:55:37 +0100 Subject: kde 4.6.2 shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <201104101155.38002.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Sunday 10 Apr 2011 11:36:48 pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > After upgrading to 4.6.2 on kubuntu maverick, I noticed that the shutdown > menu item isn't working correctly. > > > Calling shutdown from the K menu causes kde and X to stop, but leaves me at > VT1 with a login prompt. I then have to login and issue the shutdown > command. > > > The only workaround is to issue the shutdown command from the CLI within > KDE. > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is this a 4.6.2 bug or a compiling bug? > Paul It has been reported on Launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/755570. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Sun Apr 10 11:50:13 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?SXNhayBFbnN0csO2bQ==?=) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:50:13 +0200 Subject: kde 4.6.2 shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DA19975.7040306@gmail.com> On 10/04/11 12:36, pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > After upgrading to 4.6.2 on kubuntu maverick, I noticed that the shutdown menu item isn't working correctly. > > > Calling shutdown from the K menu causes kde and X to stop, but leaves me at VT1 with a login prompt. I then have to login and issue the shutdown command. > > > The only workaround is to issue the shutdown command from the CLI within KDE. > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is this a 4.6.2 bug or a compiling bug? > Paul > Must be a compiling bug / *buntu bug because it's working as it should here at PCLinuxOS with KDE 4.6.2. -- Isak ~~~~~ Powered by PCLinuxOS http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=2 From rrumberger at web.de Sun Apr 10 12:08:32 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 14:08:32 +0200 Subject: kde 4.6.2 shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <4DA19975.7040306@gmail.com> References: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4DA19975.7040306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104101408.33537.rrumberger@web.de> On Sonntag 10 April 2011, 13:50:13, Isak Enström wrote: > On 10/04/11 12:36, pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > > After upgrading to 4.6.2 on kubuntu maverick, I noticed that the shutdown > > menu item isn't working correctly. > > > > > > Calling shutdown from the K menu causes kde and X to stop, but leaves me > > at VT1 with a login prompt. I then have to login and issue the shutdown > > command. > > > > > > The only workaround is to issue the shutdown command from the CLI within > > KDE. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is this a 4.6.2 bug or a compiling bug? > > Paul > > Must be a compiling bug / *buntu bug because it's working as it should > here at PCLinuxOS with KDE 4.6.2. It's a KDE bug which can be worked around quite easily by simply setting the shutdown command KDM uses. If you either don't use KDM or got lucky and your packager(s) noticed the error and corrected it in packaging, you won't notice anything... --Reinhold From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Sun Apr 10 14:00:02 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:00:02 +0200 Subject: kde 4.6.2 shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <201104101408.33537.rrumberger@web.de> References: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4DA19975.7040306@gmail.com> <201104101408.33537.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <4DA1B7E2.2070508@gmail.com> On 10/04/11 14:08, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Sonntag 10 April 2011, 13:50:13, Isak Enström wrote: >> >> Must be a compiling bug / *buntu bug because it's working as it should >> here at PCLinuxOS with KDE 4.6.2. > > It's a KDE bug which can be worked around quite easily by simply setting the > shutdown command KDM uses. If you either don't use KDM or got lucky and your > packager(s) noticed the error and corrected it in packaging, you won't notice > anything... > > --Reinhold > I stand corrected :) Just checked my kdmrc and the shutdown command there is /sbin/halt -- Isak ~~~~~ Powered by PCLinuxOS http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=2 From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Apr 10 14:21:25 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:21:25 -0400 Subject: kde 4.6.2 shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <4DA19975.7040306@gmail.com> References: <127354185.886539.1302431808916.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4DA19975.7040306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104101021.25523.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:07:36 AM Isak Enström did opine: > On 10/04/11 12:36, pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: > > After upgrading to 4.6.2 on kubuntu maverick, I noticed that the > > shutdown menu item isn't working correctly. > > > > > > Calling shutdown from the K menu causes kde and X to stop, but leaves > > me at VT1 with a login prompt. I then have to login and issue the > > shutdown command. > > > > > > The only workaround is to issue the shutdown command from the CLI > > within KDE. > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Is this a 4.6.2 bug or a compiling bug? > > Paul > > Must be a compiling bug / *buntu bug because it's working as it should > here at PCLinuxOS with KDE 4.6.2. It is not working here on Pclos. Having been burned on two occasions by having /var on /, and having / be set read-only so there is no log of a failure is damned frustrating, however the unmount sequence umounts /var before /, which in turn kills the halt process at: turning off Swap -f hung forever, and must use the front panel reset button to reboot from there. Rant mode on: Putting /var back on / is absolutely NOT an option here at the coyote.den. I refuse to give up my logs when the system goes tits down in the pool. IMNSHO the halt script needs serious help as it should at that point, not give a damn whether it can get a lock file on whatever is next which is I /think/ the scripts killer. This has been true for every install, regardless of who's logo is on the welcome screen, for several years now. There, I've said it. /Rant mode off -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 1 bulls, 3 cows. 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Dave From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 12:46:53 2011 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:46:53 +0700 Subject: Flash Plugin says installed, but prompts for installation in firefox In-Reply-To: <201104130720.06060.dthacker@bluestrain.net> References: <201104130720.06060.dthacker@bluestrain.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Dave Thacker wrote: > Hello List, > After running updates last night,  I find that firefox is prompting me to > install flash plugins when I attempt to play a video, but when I say yes to the > prompts,  it shows that  "Package flashplugin-installer" is already installed. > I've tried removing the package and re-installing it from Kpackagekit, but > that did not help. > > Recommendations? Try below: 1. Remove flashplugin 2. Delete or rename /home/username/.mozilla folder 3. Install flashplugin DK From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 13:25:24 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:25:24 +0200 Subject: Flash Plugin says installed, but prompts for installation in firefox In-Reply-To: <201104130720.06060.dthacker@bluestrain.net> References: <201104130720.06060.dthacker@bluestrain.net> Message-ID: <4DA5A444.5090005@gmail.com> On 13/04/11 14:20, Dave Thacker wrote: > Hello List, > After running updates last night, I find that firefox is prompting me to > install flash plugins when I attempt to play a video, but when I say yes to the > prompts, it shows that "Package flashplugin-installer" is already installed. > I've tried removing the package and re-installing it from Kpackagekit, but > that did not help. > > Recommendations? > > Thanks! > > Dave > Start by typing about:plugins in the Firefox addressbar. If the plugin isn't listed you can then look in the folders /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins or /usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins. -- Isak ~~~ Powered by CrunchBang Linux http://crunchbanglinux.org/ From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Apr 13 15:23:58 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:23:58 -0400 Subject: Flash Plugin says installed, but prompts for installation in firefox In-Reply-To: <201104130720.06060.dthacker@bluestrain.net> References: <201104130720.06060.dthacker@bluestrain.net> Message-ID: <201104131123.59028.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:21:27 AM Dave Thacker did opine: > Hello List, > After running updates last night, I find that firefox is prompting me > to install flash plugins when I attempt to play a video, but when I say > yes to the prompts, it shows that "Package flashplugin-installer" is > already installed. I've tried removing the package and re-installing it > from Kpackagekit, but that did not help. > > Recommendations? > > Thanks! > > Dave The noscript addon is famous for that. There is, when its blocked something, an options button you can click on and clear that blockage. I usually use a temporary allow, make me feel safer. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) c++: the power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade From errol at tzora.co.il Thu Apr 14 03:22:18 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:22:18 +0300 Subject: lost display Message-ID: <4DA6686A.4060605@tzora.co.il> On my panel I only have some of the icons I usually had. Some of the crucial ones are missing. How do I return the panel to the original status? The icons still available are the launcher, quick access browser and the clock as well as several program icons I added myself. What is missing and used to be on the right side of the panel is the speaker volume control, the skype program icon (skype is started automatically when I boot), a dual language flag, the wicd icon for network and maybe one or two more I need less. In short, the whole of the "right side" of my panel bar has disappeared except for the clock which I added with a widget addon after the disappearance of the icons.I have browsed around "add widgets" and "system settings" without much success. TIA Errol From claydoh at claydoh.com Thu Apr 14 03:33:28 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:33:28 -0400 Subject: lost display In-Reply-To: <4DA6686A.4060605@tzora.co.il> References: <4DA6686A.4060605@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <201104132333.28300.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:22:18 PM Errol Sapir wrote: > On my panel I only have some of the icons I usually had. Some of the > crucial ones are missing. How do I return the panel to the original > status? The icons still available are the launcher, quick access browser > and the clock as well as several program icons I added myself. What is > missing and used to be on the right side of the panel is the speaker > volume control, the skype program icon (skype is started automatically > when I boot), a dual language flag, the wicd icon for network and maybe > one or two more I need less. In short, the whole of the "right side" of > my panel bar has disappeared except for the clock which I added with a > widget addon after the disappearance of the icons.I have browsed around > "add widgets" and "system settings" without much success. > TIA > Errol you want to add the system tray, it is a plasma widget so you add it from the Add Widgets area -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Apr 14 12:24:51 2011 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:24:51 +1000 Subject: What am I missing here? Message-ID: <4DA6E793.40306@iinet.net.au> I spent most of today downloading and installing Beta #1 of Kubuntu - a few hassles but, hey, fine, it is a beta after all so no real problemo. But at the beginning of the installation procedure I noticed that I got the message: Preparing to install Kubuntu. For best results, please ensure that this computer: is plugged in to a power source (This was one of 3 "hints".) Am I missing something here about this message? If I don't have the computer plugged in to a power source I will get a rotten result, but nevertheless the system will still work? But if the computer is not plugged in to a power source, and that power source is also not switched on, then I wouldn't be reading this helpful hint, right? Or is there another hidden meaning to this message which I have yet to work out - I mean, I have only ever worked with desktops so is there something about laptops to which message applies? Thanks for any clarification. BC -- Great Man reaches complete understanding of the main issues; Petty Man reaches complete understanding of the minute details." Confucius From montys at videopost.com Thu Apr 14 12:38:45 2011 From: montys at videopost.com (Monty Shinn) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:38:45 -0500 Subject: What am I missing here? In-Reply-To: <4DA6E793.40306@iinet.net.au> References: <4DA6E793.40306@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4DA6EAD5.5030907@videopost.com> On 04/14/2011 07:24 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > I spent most of today downloading and installing Beta #1 of Kubuntu - a > few hassles but, hey, fine, it is a beta after all so no real problemo. > > But at the beginning of the installation procedure I noticed that I got > the message: > > Preparing to install Kubuntu. > > For best results, please ensure that this computer: > > is plugged in to a power source > > > (This was one of 3 "hints".) > > > Am I missing something here about this message? > > If I don't have the computer plugged in to a power source I will get a > rotten result, but nevertheless the system will still work? > > But if the computer is not plugged in to a power source, and that power > source is also not switched on, then I wouldn't be reading this helpful > hint, right? > > Or is there another hidden meaning to this message which I have yet to > work out - I mean, I have only ever worked with desktops so is there > something about laptops to which message applies? > > Thanks for any clarification. > > BC > Probably for those installing on laptops... ms From jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk Thu Apr 14 12:40:32 2011 From: jonesc at hep.phy.cam.ac.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:40:32 +0100 Subject: What am I missing here? In-Reply-To: <4DA6E793.40306@iinet.net.au> References: <4DA6E793.40306@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4DA6EB40.2010500@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> > Or is there another hidden meaning to this message which I have yet to > work out - I mean, I have only ever worked with desktops so is there > something about laptops to which message applies? What it is saying is if you are installing on a laptop (or any machine with its own battery power supply), plug it into the mains before starting, to avoid the situation where the battery runs out mid installation, fubar'ing it up somewhat. Chris From tesmai4 at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 13:33:59 2011 From: tesmai4 at gmail.com (tesmail) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:33:59 +0200 Subject: HP G-62 sound and video problem Message-ID: Dear all, I recently purchased HP G-62 laptop. My sound and video drivers are not working. Info of sound device is as under: Sound device: Manhattan HDMI Audio[Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series Digital Stereo (HJDMI)] is not working and oOnly "Internal Audio Analog Stereo" device is working Regards, Tariq Abdullah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 14:08:41 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:08:41 +0200 Subject: HP G-62 sound and video problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DA6FFE9.2000903@gmail.com> On 14/04/11 15:33, tesmail wrote: > Dear all, > > I recently purchased HP G-62 laptop. My sound and video drivers are not > working. Info of sound device is as under: > Sound device: Manhattan HDMI Audio[Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series Digital > Stereo (HJDMI)] is not working and oOnly "Internal Audio Analog Stereo" > device is working > > > Regards, > Tariq Abdullah > > You did not mention what version of Kubuntu you are installing/have installed. A quick google tells me that other people have had problems with sound on that laptop. Have you installed the proprietary drivers for your video card? Somewhere in the menu there should be an item called Hardware drivers (or similar). To find out the exact name of your audio chip we can run the following command in a terminal: lspci | grep Audio There is a thread at ubuntuforums.org with a possible solution (for Lucid Lynx): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1570060 -- Isak ~~~~~ Powered by PCLinuxOS http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=2 From basroufs at gmail.com Thu Apr 14 21:21:55 2011 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:21:55 +0200 Subject: KOrganiser: how to get back to lost connection between the address books and the new message composer? Message-ID: Dear Everybody After reinstalling KOrganiser, one specific problem remains: somehow I do not manage to approach any more the addressbook "Akonadi Googledata Resource" when writing a new message. Somehow, the connection between the address books and the message composer is lost. Previously, a menu used to pop up via which I could approach any address book I wanted. Now, I do manage to approach any of them via the new message composer. How can I get back this lost connection? Finally: how can I set the "Akonadi Googledata Resource" or any other address book as default "Personal Addressbook"? Respectfully yours, Bas. -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT  Utrecht M./SMS +31 6 446 835 10 T. +31 30 785 2040 E. BasRoufs at gmail.com From john_re at fastmail.us Thu Apr 14 21:49:20 2011 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 14:49:20 -0700 Subject: fglxr ATI video driver disables USB Keyboard - fix? ; gre Message-ID: <1302817760.30983.1441309617@webmail.messagingengine.com> Anyone here using the AMD/ATI proprietary video driver? Is there a procedure described someplace for getting it working properly in KUbuntu? Anyone have any problems with it? After I installed the fglxr package, my usb keyboard is no longer seen by the system. I had to remove that package to get my keyboard working again. = I just saw a perhaps similar thread today on the Debian list, about having to install some firmware. Is that relevant to KUbuntu? Re: ATI/AMD graphics cards The firmware for the radeon HD is in the package firmware-linux-nonfree. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg01032.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/03/msg01433.html ===== AMD PhenomII quad core system, ASUS mobo w/ ATI Radeon HD 3300 graphics on mobo USB keyboard, KUbuntu 10.4, fully updated Before install ATI proprietary driver: dpkg -l | grep radeon ii libdrm-radeon1 2.4.18-1ubuntu3 Userspace interface to radeon-specific kerne ii radeontool 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 utility to control ATI Radeon backlight func ii xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5 X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display dri System was basically fine, except that one program doing graphics would put garbage on the screen, seemingly typical for the X.Org incomplete ATI driver, as per stuff I'd read. I downloaded & apt-installed from the console the fglrx package [the driver from the hw manufacturer], (see apt-cache search radeon at end) which proceeded to: === apt-get install fglrx The following extra packages will be installed: dkms fglrx-amdcccle linux-headers-2.6.32-30 linux-headers-2.6.32-30-generic linux-headers-generic The following NEW packages will be installed: dkms fglrx fglrx-amdcccle linux-headers-2.6.32-30 linux-headers-2.6.32-30-generic linux-headers-generic 0 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Unpacking dkms (from .../dkms_2.1.1.2-2fakesync1_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package linux-headers-2.6.32-30. Unpacking linux-headers-2.6.32-30 (from .../linux-headers-2.6.32-30_2.6.32-30.59_all.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package linux-headers-2.6.32-30-generic. Unpacking linux-headers-2.6.32-30-generic (from .../linux-headers-2.6.32-30-generic_2.6.32-30.59_amd64.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package linux-headers-generic. Unpacking linux-headers-generic (from .../linux-headers-generic_2.6.32.30.36_amd64.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package fglrx. Unpacking fglrx (from .../fglrx_2%3a8.723.1-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package fglrx-amdcccle. Unpacking fglrx-amdcccle (from .../fglrx-amdcccle_2%3a8.723.1-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb) ... Processing triggers for man-db ... Processing triggers for ureadahead ... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot Setting up dkms (2.1.1.2-2fakesync1) ... Setting up linux-headers-2.6.32-30 (2.6.32-30.59) ... Setting up linux-headers-2.6.32-30-generic (2.6.32-30.59) ... Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d. run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms 2.6.32-30-generic /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-30-generic run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/nvidia-common 2.6.32-30-generic /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-30-generic Setting up linux-headers-generic (2.6.32.30.36) ... Setting up fglrx (2:8.723.1-0ubuntu5) ... update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/fglrx/ld.so.conf to provide /etc/ld.so.conf.d/GL.conf (gl_conf) in auto mode. update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) Loading new fglrx-8.723.1 DKMS files... First Installation: checking all kernels... Building only for 2.6.32-30-generic Building for architecture x86_64 Building initial module for 2.6.32-30-generic Done. === Upon reboot, the keyboard is inactive. Even pressing caps lock doesn't cause the caps lock let to come on. So, I can't log in at the KUbuntu screen. Reboot into safe mode, try to determine anything unusual, & at some point during some reboot, I saw some text mode messages about some USB thing not being proper, or identified, etc. I booted into safe mode root, & did: apt-get remove fglxr Now, It will boot up fine again, but with the same graphics sw problem. So, was there more I was supposed to do? Is that documented someplace? Is this a known problem? What's the fix? [I sent this to Ubuntu-X list yesterday, got no reply yet.] Thanks :) == Also, I note in the Ubuntu-x team email list, the below message, so is there more needed to install fglxr properly in 10.04 than merely "apt-get install fglxr?": = Subject: [ubuntu-x] fglrx support in Natty On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:44:52 +0200, "Alberto Milone" said: > A new fglrx driver (2:8.840-0ubuntu1) is now available in Natty and it > finally works with the new xserver. There are still a few issues whose > fixes should land after Beta 1 is released: ... > > In the meantime, if you wish to install the new fglrx driver, you can do > it manually by following these commands: > > sudo apt-get install fglrx > sudo update-alternatives --config gl_conf (and select the line with > fglrx) > sudo update-initramfs -u > > and finally reboot. > > No xorg.conf is required as the driver will be automatically loaded. > > Note: despite what the relevant article from Phoronix claims, the driver > doesn't support AMD's PowerXpress. > ===== apt-cache search radeon | sort fglrx-amdcccle - Catalyst Control Center for the ATI graphics accelerators fglrx-dev - Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerators (devel files) fglrx - Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerators libdrm-radeon1-dbg - Userspace interface to radeon-specific kernel DRM services -- debugging symbols libdrm-radeon1 - Userspace interface to radeon-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime mplayer-gui - movie player for Unix-like systems mplayer - movie player for Unix-like systems radeontool - utility to control ATI Radeon backlight functions on laptops rovclock - utility to control frequency rates of your Radeon card xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper (debugging symbols) xserver-xorg-video-ati - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver (debugging symbols) xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd-dbg - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI r5xx, r6xx display driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ == Join in the Global weekly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ From dave at thefletchers.net Thu Apr 14 23:41:44 2011 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:41:44 +0100 Subject: fglxr ATI video driver disables USB Keyboard - fix? ; gre In-Reply-To: <1302817760.30983.1441309617@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1302817760.30983.1441309617@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1302824504.1965.22.camel@boss> On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 14:49 -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > Anyone here using the AMD/ATI proprietary video driver? > When I built my son's new computer, I asked on the Ubuntu list about drivers and was advised to stick with the open source ATI driver. It appears to be doing its job perfectly well and causing no problems. Dave From claydoh at claydoh.com Thu Apr 14 23:58:51 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:58:51 -0400 Subject: fglxr ATI video driver disables USB Keyboard - fix? ; gre In-Reply-To: <1302824504.1965.22.camel@boss> References: <1302817760.30983.1441309617@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1302824504.1965.22.camel@boss> Message-ID: <201104141958.52507.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Thursday, April 14, 2011 07:41:44 PM David Fletcher wrote: > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 14:49 -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > > Anyone here using the AMD/ATI proprietary video driver? > > When I built my son's new computer, I asked on the Ubuntu list about > drivers and was advised to stick with the open source ATI driver. It > appears to be doing its job perfectly well and causing no problems. > > Dave but to install fglrx, you really should use the Additional Drivers tool, or whatever it is called in Lucid - it is in the System menu. If you want to install it manually, you need to do more than just install fglrx, you need to run the command: $ sudo aticonfig --initial Which sets up a basic xorg.conf (note that using the restricted drivers/additional drivers tool does this step for you) I don't know if that will help with the usb issue, but it is worth a shot. Perhaps the lack of the xorg.conf as needed by the driver is confuing things. much more info on the various methods of installing fglrx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://flyballmaine.com http://emacdogsports.com From errol at tzora.co.il Fri Apr 15 09:56:24 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:56:24 +0300 Subject: lost display In-Reply-To: <201104132333.28300.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <4DA6686A.4060605@tzora.co.il> <201104132333.28300.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4DA81648.3050905@tzora.co.il> On 04/14/2011 06:33 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:22:18 PM Errol Sapir wrote: >> On my panel I only have some of the icons I usually had. Some of the >> crucial ones are missing. How do I return the panel to the original >> status? The icons still available are the launcher, quick access browser >> and the clock as well as several program icons I added myself. What is >> missing and used to be on the right side of the panel is the speaker >> volume control, the skype program icon (skype is started automatically >> when I boot), a dual language flag, the wicd icon for network and maybe >> one or two more I need less. In short, the whole of the "right side" of >> my panel bar has disappeared except for the clock which I added with a >> widget addon after the disappearance of the icons.I have browsed around >> "add widgets" and "system settings" without much success. >> TIA >> Errol > you want to add the system tray, it is a plasma widget so you add it from the > Add Widgets area Thanks Clay Problem solved. From rjlapham at gmail.com Mon Apr 18 03:31:59 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 23:31:59 -0400 Subject: Grsynch errors Message-ID: <201104172331.59896.rjlapham@gmail.com> I have a 160GB USB drive called SEA_DISK for backups using Grsynch. The last week or two I've been getting the following errors - I think - on every file needing to be changed: rsync: mkstemp "/media/SEA_DISK/dataDocs2/nle/MW26/.wALK 26.xls.1uKVFl" failed: Read-only file system (30) and rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7] Rsync process exit status: 23 After running Grsynch I can't write to SEA_DISK using Dolphin until I turn off the drive and turn it back on. About the same I time, I think, Safely remove 'SEA_DISK' on the Dolphin drop- down also quit working. I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but the same thing happened when I tried 10.04. Any ideas? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= If users appear to need help, appear to help them. From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Mon Apr 18 13:06:53 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:06:53 +0100 Subject: 1. Grsynch errors (Jerry Lapham) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DAC376D.1050600@btinternet.com> On 18/04/11 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > I have a 160GB USB drive called SEA_DISK for backups using Grsynch. The last > week or two I've been getting the following errors - I think - on every file > needing to be changed: > > rsync: mkstemp "/media/SEA_DISK/dataDocs2/nle/MW26/.wALK 26.xls.1uKVFl" > failed: Read-only file system (30) > > and > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code > 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7] > Rsync process exit status: 23 > > After running Grsynch I can't write to SEA_DISK using Dolphin until I turn off > the drive and turn it back on. > > About the same I time, I think, Safely remove 'SEA_DISK' on the Dolphin drop- > down also quit working. > > I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but the same thing happened when I tried 10.04. > > Any ideas? > > -Jerry for a start: on the command line type: mount to get the device mount point for your SEA_DISK umount /dev/"SEA_DISK" fsck /dev/sdb1 (substitute whatever mount returned for your USB disc) this should put right any errors on the disk. you may have to put in some flags(man fsck) to get exactly what you want. This should tell you if you have a flaky drive or not. If you're happy with the disc then don't forget to 'mount /dev/whatever' . You may or may not need to 'sudo' this lot ,depends on whether it was mounted by root at boot up or automounter. brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjlapham at gmail.com Tue Apr 19 19:24:52 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:24:52 -0400 Subject: Bogofilter Message-ID: <201104191524.52697.rjlapham@gmail.com> I recently decided to try spam filtering again in Kmail. The only one already installed was Bogofilter, so I set it up. So far it has been 100 percent wrong. It has moved several non-spam messages to my spam directory but it has not caught any real spam. I can click on the Spam icon to send spam to the spam directory but clicking on Ham does not do anything to any of the non-spam it has put in the spam directory. Anyone else have similar experience? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Apr 19 20:47:58 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:47:58 -0400 Subject: Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <201104191524.52697.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201104191524.52697.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104191647.59244.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, April 19, 2011 03:24:52 PM Jerry Lapham wrote: > I recently decided to try spam filtering again in Kmail. The only one > already installed was Bogofilter, so I set it up. > > So far it has been 100 percent wrong. It has moved several non-spam > messages to my spam directory but it has not caught any real spam. I can > click on the Spam icon to send spam to the spam directory but clicking on > Ham does not do anything to any of the non-spam it has put in the spam > directory. > > Anyone else have similar experience? > > -Jerry My experience with bogofilter has been pretty good overall. It may not be quite as good as spamassassin, but it doesn't slow things down so much. The "ham" filter will NOT move mail to somewhere else, unless you configure the relevent email filter to do so (that is probably pretty complicated to do but it maybe possible), but what it does do is add the attributes of what you consider spam and non-spam to a list or database, so the more info it has the better it works. So you have to train your spam filter to get it to recognize spam and non spam. One way to do this is to go through your trash and mass-select a lot of known spam and hit the spam button and let it do its thing. Then do the same for a ton of known good mail using the ham button. If you use any email filters to shuffle an email list's mails to its own folder, you can add a filter criteria to mark thise filtered messgaes as ham. I still get a number of spam mails every day, but the vast majority go to the spam bin, seldom do ones getting marked incorrectly. But I have accidentally clicked spam on the wrong ones in the past, going back and marking them as ham seems to fix that. clay From info at alvin.be Thu Apr 21 08:32:07 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:32:07 +0200 Subject: Random short freezes Message-ID: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> From time to time, my desktop freezes for 3-10 seconds. It's irritating, but not as severe as resizing konsole on natty beta. This is in Natty beta, but i've had it in Maverick too. Is there anyone who can point me in the direction of the package that is causing this? An existing bug report would be even better. -- Alvin From bqz69 at telia.com Thu Apr 21 10:19:19 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Random short freezes References: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:32:07 +0200, Alvin wrote: > From time to time, my desktop freezes for 3-10 seconds. It's irritating, > but not as severe as resizing konsole on natty beta. I am using maverick and see it from time to time, then I just sit and wait until it goes away. Seems like the system is overloaded? Maybe something with firefox (I am using icecat 3.6.15)? From rjlapham at gmail.com Fri Apr 22 04:50:50 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 00:50:50 -0400 Subject: 1. Grsynch errors (Jerry Lapham) In-Reply-To: <4DAC376D.1050600@btinternet.com> References: <4DAC376D.1050600@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <201104220050.50413.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Monday, April 18, 2011 09:06:53 am Brian Wootton wrote: > On 18/04/11 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > I have a 160GB USB drive called SEA_DISK for backups using Grsynch. The > > last week or two I've been getting the following errors - I think - on > > every file needing to be changed: > > > > rsync: mkstemp "/media/SEA_DISK/dataDocs2/nle/MW26/.wALK 26.xls.1uKVFl" > > failed: Read-only file system (30) > > > > and > > > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) > > (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7] > > Rsync process exit status: 23 > > > > After running Grsynch I can't write to SEA_DISK using Dolphin until I > > turn off the drive and turn it back on. > > > > About the same I time, I think, Safely remove 'SEA_DISK' on the Dolphin > > drop- down also quit working. > > > > I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but the same thing happened when I tried 10.04. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > -Jerry > > for a start: > on the command line type: > mount to get the device mount point for your SEA_DISK > umount /dev/"SEA_DISK" > fsck /dev/sdb1 (substitute whatever mount returned for your USB disc) > this should put right any errors on the disk. you may have to put in > some flags(man fsck) to get exactly what you want. This should tell you > if you have a flaky drive or not. If you're happy with the disc then don't > forget to 'mount /dev/whatever' . You may or may not need to 'sudo' this > lot ,depends on whether it was mounted by root at boot up or automounter. > brian The disk seems to be OK. I have no trouble copying files and folders to it after I turn it on. But I can't write to it after having run grsync or rsync. They seem to be what's making it read-only. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Forget deja vu! From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Apr 22 06:21:34 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:21:34 +0200 Subject: Bogofilter In-Reply-To: <201104191647.59244.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201104191524.52697.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201104191647.59244.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4DB11E6E.1030401@gmail.com> On 19/04/2011 22:47, Clay Weber wrote: > On Tuesday, April 19, 2011 03:24:52 PM Jerry Lapham wrote: >> I recently decided to try spam filtering again in Kmail. The only one >> already installed was Bogofilter, so I set it up. >> >> So far it has been 100 percent wrong. It has moved several non-spam >> messages to my spam directory but it has not caught any real spam. I can >> click on the Spam icon to send spam to the spam directory but clicking on >> Ham does not do anything to any of the non-spam it has put in the spam >> directory. >> >> Anyone else have similar experience? >> >> -Jerry > > My experience with bogofilter has been pretty good overall. It may not be quite > as good as spamassassin, but it doesn't slow things down so much. > > The "ham" filter will NOT move mail to somewhere else, unless you configure > the relevent email filter to do so (that is probably pretty complicated to do > but it maybe possible), but what it does do is add the attributes of what you > consider spam and non-spam to a list or database, so the more info it has the > better it works. > > So you have to train your spam filter to get it to recognize spam and non spam. > One way to do this is to go through your trash and mass-select a lot of known > spam and hit the spam button and let it do its thing. Then do the same for a > ton of known good mail using the ham button. > > If you use any email filters to shuffle an email list's mails to its own folder, > you can add a filter criteria to mark thise filtered messgaes as ham. > > I still get a number of spam mails every day, but the vast majority go to the > spam bin, seldom do ones getting marked incorrectly. But I have accidentally > clicked spam on the wrong ones in the past, going back and marking them as > ham seems to fix that. It is actually quite easy to add to the "ham-filter" the action of moving it to inbox after marking (or whereever you want to move it), just look in the Filters and you will find it. Add the action required and you are fine. I do not like bogofilter so I recommend you install spambayes via the package manager. It will then show up as a possible filter choice in Kmail "spam config wizard". It needs training but I think it works better. I actually combine it with CRM114 (also found in the packages) and have 2 filters. Takes a bit of tinkering with the filter rules but works very well. Regards Sinclair From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Fri Apr 22 14:49:04 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:49:04 +0100 Subject: 1. Grsynch errors (Jerry Lapham) (Jerry Lapham) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DB19560.4080709@btinternet.com> On 22/04/11 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > On Monday, April 18, 2011 09:06:53 am Brian Wootton wrote: > >> > On 18/04/11 13:00,kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >>> > > I have a 160GB USB drive called SEA_DISK for backups using Grsynch. The >>> > > last week or two I've been getting the following errors - I think - on >>> > > every file needing to be changed: >>> > > >>> > > rsync: mkstemp "/media/SEA_DISK/dataDocs2/nle/MW26/.wALK 26.xls.1uKVFl" >>> > > failed: Read-only file system (30) >>> > > >>> > > and >>> > > >>> > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) >>> > > (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7] >>> > > Rsync process exit status: 23 >>> > > >>> > > After running Grsynch I can't write to SEA_DISK using Dolphin until I >>> > > turn off the drive and turn it back on. >>> > > >>> > > About the same I time, I think, Safely remove 'SEA_DISK' on the Dolphin >>> > > drop- down also quit working. >>> > > >>> > > I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but the same thing happened when I tried 10.04. >>> > > >>> > > Any ideas? >>> > > >>> > > -Jerry >> > >> > for a start: >> > on the command line type: >> > mount to get the device mount point for your SEA_DISK >> > umount/dev/"SEA_DISK" >> > fsck /dev/sdb1 (substitute whatever mount returned for your USB disc) >> > this should put right any errors on the disk. you may have to put in >> > some flags(man fsck) to get exactly what you want. This should tell you >> > if you have a flaky drive or not. If you're happy with the disc then don't >> > forget to 'mount /dev/whatever' . You may or may not need to 'sudo' this >> > lot ,depends on whether it was mounted by root at boot up or automounter. >> > brian > The disk seems to be OK. I have no trouble copying files and folders to it > after I turn it on. But I can't write to it after having run grsync or rsync. > They seem to be what's making it read-only. > > -Jerry Can't help you there, I took a look at the man page for grsynch some time ago and decided there was too much for my ancient brain to absorb so I stayed with the mount daemon and remote access to it - seemed to work OK for me. Now I've only the one kubuntu machine I can't even try it out for you. I seem to remember a -n option where it tells you what it would do but doesn't actually do anything. Are you running the sync daemon as root or as yourself? Has root only got write permission, or no-one at all? how do you recover your permissions on the SEA_DISK after the rsync run brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjlapham at gmail.com Fri Apr 22 17:00:18 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:00:18 -0400 Subject: 1. Grsynch errors (Jerry Lapham) (Jerry Lapham) In-Reply-To: <4DB19560.4080709@btinternet.com> References: <4DB19560.4080709@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <201104221300.18470.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Friday, April 22, 2011 10:49:04 am Brian Wootton wrote: > On 22/04/11 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > On Monday, April 18, 2011 09:06:53 am Brian Wootton wrote: > >> > On 18/04/11 13:00,kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > >>> > > I have a 160GB USB drive called SEA_DISK for backups using > >>> > > Grsynch. The last week or two I've been getting the following > >>> > > errors - I think - on every file needing to be changed: > >>> > > > >>> > > rsync: mkstemp "/media/SEA_DISK/dataDocs2/nle/MW26/.wALK > >>> > > 26.xls.1uKVFl" failed: Read-only file system (30) > >>> > > > >>> > > and > >>> > > > >>> > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous > >>> > > errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7] > >>> > > Rsync process exit status: 23 > >>> > > > >>> > > After running Grsynch I can't write to SEA_DISK using Dolphin > >>> > > until I turn off the drive and turn it back on. > >>> > > > >>> > > About the same I time, I think, Safely remove 'SEA_DISK' on the > >>> > > Dolphin drop- down also quit working. > >>> > > > >>> > > I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but the same thing happened when I > >>> > > tried 10.04. > >>> > > > >>> > > Any ideas? > >>> > > > >>> > > -Jerry > >> > > >> > for a start: > >> > on the command line type: > >> > mount to get the device mount point for your SEA_DISK > >> > umount/dev/"SEA_DISK" > >> > fsck /dev/sdb1 (substitute whatever mount returned for your USB > >> > disc) this should put right any errors on the disk. you may have to > >> > put in some flags(man fsck) to get exactly what you want. This > >> > should tell you if you have a flaky drive or not. If you're happy > >> > with the disc then don't forget to 'mount /dev/whatever' . You may > >> > or may not need to 'sudo' this lot ,depends on whether it was > >> > mounted by root at boot up or automounter. brian > > > > The disk seems to be OK. I have no trouble copying files and folders to > > it after I turn it on. But I can't write to it after having run grsync > > or rsync. They seem to be what's making it read-only. > > > > -Jerry > > Can't help you there, I took a look at the man page for grsynch some time > ago and decided there was too much for my ancient brain to absorb so > I stayed with the mount daemon and remote access to it - seemed to work > OK for me. Now I've only the one kubuntu machine I can't even try it out > for you. I seem to remember a -n option where it tells you what it would > do but doesn't actually do anything. Are you running the sync daemon > as root or as yourself? Has root only got write permission, or no-one at > all? how do you recover your permissions on the SEA_DISK after the > rsync run > brian I've been running grsync and rsync as myself. I just tried running rsync as root with the same result. Before running it, I could write to SEA_DISK. Afterwards I can't write to it even as root. It appears that rsync is what is making SEA_DISK read-only. I make SEA_DISK writable again by powering it off and then restarting it. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Sat Apr 23 20:45:15 2011 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?utf-8?q?Gr=C3=BCn?=) Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 22:45:15 +0200 Subject: ATI Radeon HD 4290 (onboard) Only 60 Hz frequency Message-ID: <201104232245.15628.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> Hallo, dear list, I have a new motherboard (M4A89GTD pro) with an onboard graphic chip: HD 4290 The problem which seems to be unsolvable (until now): I only have as vertical frequency 60 Hz, regardless the entries in the xorg.conf. I have installed the latest version of ''AMD Catalyst™ 11.3 Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver'' and I use the configuration tool ''amdcccle'', and also here, 60 Hz is the one and only frequency that is listed. Does someone also have this MB (or at least the same graphical chip) without this problem? Or has a clue? (I use Kubuntu 10.10 64bit, and with the 32bit version the same problem exists. With WinXP-pro 32bit, I can use a frequency of 100 Hz) Thanks a lot for any help! -- Namastè, X Ulrich X X ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Eyes serve two purposes: to see with and to wheep with, but certainly not to judge with. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø http://www.santodaime.nl/ OS: Kubuntu 10.10 (Linux) From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 19:49:52 2011 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:49:52 +0200 Subject: Random short freezes In-Reply-To: References: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:19 PM, user1 wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:32:07 +0200, Alvin wrote: > > > From time to time, my desktop freezes for 3-10 seconds. It's irritating, > > but not as severe as resizing konsole on natty beta. > > I am using maverick and see it from time to time, then I just sit and > wait until it goes away. > > Seems like the system is overloaded? > > Maybe something with firefox (I am using icecat 3.6.15)? I have it too and I think it might be an nvidia driver issue. Turn off your effects or switch to the open source driver and see if it goes away. 7600 gs -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've had to retire the whole tower, of course - > if any-one wants the amd64 bit processor or the 2 x 2GB + > 2 x 1CB memory boards there welcome to them for the price of > the postage. > brian > > > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcelo-sales at ig.com.br Tue Apr 26 20:37:53 2011 From: marcelo-sales at ig.com.br (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:37:53 -0300 Subject: Random short freezes In-Reply-To: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> References: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <201104261737.53334.marcelo-sales@ig.com.br> Em quinta-feira 21 abril 2011, Alvin escreveu: > From time to time, my desktop freezes for 3-10 seconds. It's > irritating, but not as severe as resizing konsole on natty beta. > > This is in Natty beta, but i've had it in Maverick too. Is there > anyone who can point me in the direction of the package that is > causing this? An existing bug report would be even better. This happens to me when I'm running Kopete. If someone sends me a message while I'm away, then when I get back to the computer the GUI behaves somewhat erratically, with these little freezes you mention. The Kopete notification icon in the notification area spins slowly and slowly until it stops rotating. When I click the notification icon to see the message, things will slowly come back to normal, but it still takes some minutes until the freezes go away. Sometimes (not very often), I have to restart KDE to get the GUI back to normal. There's a bug opened on this on KDE's bugzilla. []'s Marcelo From bqz69 at telia.com Wed Apr 27 04:04:27 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 04:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Random short freezes References: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> <201104261737.53334.marcelo-sales@ig.com.br> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:37:53 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > get the GUI back to normal. There's a bug opened on this on KDE's > bugzilla. I am using 10.10 and nvidia (hp pavilion dv9000) I have installed gnome, kde and netbook and is using netbook as my default. I have those freezing happening? From mmtsales at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 11:11:19 2011 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:11:19 -0300 Subject: Random short freezes In-Reply-To: References: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> <201104261737.53334.marcelo-sales@ig.com.br> Message-ID: 2011/4/27 user1 > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:37:53 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > > get the GUI back to normal. There's a bug opened on this on KDE's > > bugzilla. > > I am using 10.10 and nvidia (hp pavilion dv9000) > > I have installed gnome, kde and netbook and is using netbook as my > default. > > I have those freezing happening? > > Well, I don't know. Do you? :) But it is unlikely you do have the freezes caused by this bug if you're not running KDE, no matter if it is installed or not. []'s Marcelo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 11:39:37 2011 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?utf-8?q?Gr=C3=BCn?=) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:39:37 +0200 Subject: Solved: Re: ATI Radeon HD 4290 (onboard) Only 60 Hz frequency In-Reply-To: <201104232245.15628.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> References: <201104232245.15628.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104271339.37849.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> (Top posting because original text is for information only) Hi List, I solved the problem of having a display with 60 Hz only, the following way: I, again, searched my xorg.0.log. This time, I noticed the entry: ''fglrx(0): Display0: Failed to get EDID information.'' Google helped me to find: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577712 With that help and a minimal xorg.conf, and the program ''cvt'' (which makes you modelines for the xorg.conf, like ''~$ cvt -v 1600 1200 100Hz''), I now have a CRT monitor that runs on a vertical frequency of 100 Hz. Hope this helps someone else. Ulrich Grün. Also schrieben Sie am Samstag, 23. April 2011 22:45:15: > Hallo, dear list, > > I have a new motherboard (M4A89GTD pro) with an onboard graphic chip: HD > 4290 > > The problem which seems to be unsolvable (until now): I only have as > vertical frequency 60 Hz, regardless the entries in the xorg.conf. > I have installed the latest version of ''AMD Catalyst™ 11.3 Proprietary > Linux x86 Display Driver'' and I use the configuration tool ''amdcccle'', > and also here, 60 Hz is the one and only frequency that is listed. > > Does someone also have this MB (or at least the same graphical chip) > without this problem? Or has a clue? > > (I use Kubuntu 10.10 64bit, and with the 32bit version the same problem > exists. With WinXP-pro 32bit, I can use a frequency of 100 Hz) > > Thanks a lot for any help! -- Namastè, X Ulrich X X ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Eyes serve two purposes: to see with and to wheep with, but certainly not to judge with. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø http://www.santodaime.nl/ OS: Kubuntu 10.04 (Linux) From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Apr 27 12:56:29 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:56:29 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video Message-ID: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Running the beta of 11.04 (Natty) on an i386 machine. (my lab rat) After loading up 11.04 and fully updating it as of yesterday, I still have a nagging problem and wonder if anyone else has seen it. After booting, the kernel goes through it's console messages (I'm using vga=normal for console messages) and then X starts up and I get the login screen. If I go into an XFCE session, everything is fine including a konsole session. However, doing a CTL-BKSP-Fx to get to a real console session, the monitor goes into a "Out of Sync" mode with something like 17 Hz horiz and 15hz vertical. Huh? So I can't use a real console session at all. And also, when shutting down the machine, where the normal kernel messages would appear, I also get the Out of Sync message. In short, once X starts up, a real console session is impossible. Have never had this problem before. I even killed kdm (from within an konsole session) thinking it would put me down into a real login screen but nope: still the Out of Sync. Anyone else seeing this? Nvidia 6200 graphics board. From fsunoles at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 16:07:32 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:07:32 -0600 Subject: Networking keeps stopping Message-ID: Kubuntu 10.04 Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was dubious. This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above steps, and am posting here before it quits again. Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first stoppage. No other OS fiddling. From jprigot at verizon.net Wed Apr 27 16:23:00 2011 From: jprigot at verizon.net (Jonathan M. Prigot) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:23:00 -0400 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on your machine refreshes, they disappear. -- Jonathan M. Prigot On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: > Kubuntu 10.04 > > Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it > was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my > computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here > concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my > /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, > which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was > dubious. > > This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the > resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and > restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 > minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above > steps, and am posting here before it quits again. > > Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's > not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first > stoppage. No other OS fiddling. > From fsunoles at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 16:38:03 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:38:03 -0600 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on > your machine refreshes, they disappear. Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP. We are moving to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons. Might I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about? I always configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, and that has always worked. > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: >> Kubuntu 10.04 >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working.  I figured it >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my >> computer that preceded the stoppage.  Ultimately the IT folks here >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my >> /etc/resolv.conf file.  They added the nameservers and dns-search, >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed.  I was >> dubious. >> >> This morning networking stopped again.  A quick check of the >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty.  I made the changes and >> restarted networking and was off again.  Then it stopped again 30 >> minutes later.  resolv.conf was again empty.  I repeated the above >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on?  I'm stumped, but that's >> not hard to do.  I updated my machine the day prior to the first >> stoppage.  No other OS fiddling. >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From jprigot at verizon.net Wed Apr 27 16:52:57 2011 From: jprigot at verizon.net (Jonathan M. Prigot) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:52:57 -0400 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> Message-ID: <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. -- Jonathan M. Prigot On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > wrote: > > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is > > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at > > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can > > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on > > your machine refreshes, they disappear. > > Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP. We are moving > to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons. Might > I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about? I always > configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, > and that has always worked. > > > > > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> Kubuntu 10.04 > >> > >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it > >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my > >> computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here > >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my > >> /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, > >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was > >> dubious. > >> > >> This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the > >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and > >> restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 > >> minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above > >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. > >> > >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's > >> not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first > >> stoppage. No other OS fiddling. > >> > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From fsunoles at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 17:24:20 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:24:20 -0600 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. No DHCP is running. I took a look at Network Connections under System Settings. Nothing is configured there. What about KNetworkManager? "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running. Is that something I can configure? If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> wrote: >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP.  We are moving >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons.  Might >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about?  I always >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, >> and that has always worked. >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working.  I figured it >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage.  Ultimately the IT folks here >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file.  They added the nameservers and dns-search, >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed.  I was >> >> dubious. >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again.  A quick check of the >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty.  I made the changes and >> >> restarted networking and was off again.  Then it stopped again 30 >> >> minutes later.  resolv.conf was again empty.  I repeated the above >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on?  I'm stumped, but that's >> >> not hard to do.  I updated my machine the day prior to the first >> >> stoppage.  No other OS fiddling. >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From jprigot at verizon.net Wed Apr 27 17:31:19 2011 From: jprigot at verizon.net (Jonathan M. Prigot) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:31:19 -0400 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> Message-ID: <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of the network. -- Jonathan M. Prigot On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > wrote: > > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" > > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this > > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. > > No DHCP is running. I took a look at Network Connections under System > Settings. Nothing is configured there. What about KNetworkManager? > "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running. Is that something I can > configure? If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. > > > > > > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> wrote: > >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is > >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at > >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can > >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on > >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. > >> > >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP. We are moving > >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons. Might > >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about? I always > >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, > >> and that has always worked. > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 > >> >> > >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it > >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my > >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here > >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my > >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, > >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was > >> >> dubious. > >> >> > >> >> This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the > >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and > >> >> restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 > >> >> minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above > >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. > >> >> > >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's > >> >> not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first > >> >> stoppage. No other OS fiddling. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Wed Apr 27 19:22:03 2011 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:22:03 -0400 Subject: Random short freezes In-Reply-To: References: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> <201104261737.53334.marcelo-sales@ig.com.br> Message-ID: <4DB86CDB.2010807@cfl.rr.com> On 4/27/2011 7:11 AM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > > 2011/4/27 user1 > > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:37:53 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > > get the GUI back to normal. There's a bug opened on this on KDE's > > bugzilla. > > I am using 10.10 and nvidia (hp pavilion dv9000) > > I have installed gnome, kde and netbook and is using netbook as my > default. > > I have those freezing happening? > > > Well, I don't know. Do you? :) > But it is unlikely you do have the freezes caused by this bug if > you're not running KDE, no matter if it is installed or not. > > []'s > Marcelo I have had the same problem since upgrading to kubuntu 10.10 on my AMD64. I found out that the GPG program was using about 83+% of the cpu clock cycles. When I closed it, the problem went away. You may want to use your System Monitor to check for programs like this. Tom -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD ("Who will protect us from the protectors?") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fsunoles at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 20:35:31 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:35:31 -0600 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of > the network. I'll consider doing that. I was just reviewing your previous responses. Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the dns and domain information? I thought I had read way back that ubuntu no longer used that file. If it should be populated with that info, then it is curious that it has been deleted three times. We know I don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of that file? > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> wrote: >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. >> >> No DHCP is running.  I took a look at Network Connections under System >> Settings.  Nothing is configured there.  What about KNetworkManager? >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running.  Is that something I can >> configure?  If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> wrote: >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. >> >> >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP.  We are moving >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons.  Might >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about?  I always >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, >> >> and that has always worked. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 >> >> >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working.  I figured it >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage.  Ultimately the IT folks here >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file.  They added the nameservers and dns-search, >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed.  I was >> >> >> dubious. >> >> >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again.  A quick check of the >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty.  I made the changes and >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again.  Then it stopped again 30 >> >> >> minutes later.  resolv.conf was again empty.  I repeated the above >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on?  I'm stumped, but that's >> >> >> not hard to do.  I updated my machine the day prior to the first >> >> >> stoppage.  No other OS fiddling. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From jprigot at verizon.net Wed Apr 27 20:48:43 2011 From: jprigot at verizon.net (Jonathan M. Prigot) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:48:43 -0400 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> Message-ID: <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> Yup. The usual entries are for NAMESERVER, DOMAIN, and optionally SEARCH. As to Ubuntu not using it anymore, you've seen what happens if that information is not there. As to where the contents of resolv.conf has gone (3 times), that's the mystery we are trying to solve, isn't it? -- Jonathan M. Prigot On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:35 -0600, Homer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > wrote: > > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've > > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of > > the network. > > I'll consider doing that. I was just reviewing your previous > responses. Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the > dns and domain information? I thought I had read way back that ubuntu > no longer used that file. If it should be populated with that info, > then it is curious that it has been deleted three times. We know I > don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of > that file? > > > > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> wrote: > >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" > >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this > >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. > >> > >> No DHCP is running. I took a look at Network Connections under System > >> Settings. Nothing is configured there. What about KNetworkManager? > >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running. Is that something I can > >> configure? If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is > >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at > >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can > >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on > >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. > >> >> > >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP. We are moving > >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons. Might > >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about? I always > >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, > >> >> and that has always worked. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it > >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my > >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here > >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my > >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, > >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was > >> >> >> dubious. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the > >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and > >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 > >> >> >> minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above > >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's > >> >> >> not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first > >> >> >> stoppage. No other OS fiddling. > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From fsunoles at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 22:18:44 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:18:44 -0600 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > Yup. The usual entries are for NAMESERVER, DOMAIN, and optionally > SEARCH. As to Ubuntu not using it anymore, you've seen what happens if > that information is not there. As to where the contents of resolv.conf > has gone (3 times), that's the mystery we are trying to solve, isn't it? Four times now. Uggg. Heading home in a sec, so will have to pick it up tomorrow. Thank you for the comments/insight on this. > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:35 -0600, Homer wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> wrote: >> > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've >> > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of >> > the network. >> >> I'll consider doing that.  I was just reviewing your previous >> responses.  Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the >> dns and domain information?  I thought I had read way back that ubuntu >> no longer used that file.  If it should be populated with that info, >> then it is curious that it has been deleted three times.  We know I >> don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of >> that file? >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> wrote: >> >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" >> >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this >> >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. >> >> >> >> No DHCP is running.  I took a look at Network Connections under System >> >> Settings.  Nothing is configured there.  What about KNetworkManager? >> >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running.  Is that something I can >> >> configure?  If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is >> >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at >> >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can >> >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on >> >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. >> >> >> >> >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP.  We are moving >> >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons.  Might >> >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about?  I always >> >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, >> >> >> and that has always worked. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working.  I figured it >> >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my >> >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage.  Ultimately the IT folks here >> >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my >> >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file.  They added the nameservers and dns-search, >> >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed.  I was >> >> >> >> dubious. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again.  A quick check of the >> >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty.  I made the changes and >> >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again.  Then it stopped again 30 >> >> >> >> minutes later.  resolv.conf was again empty.  I repeated the above >> >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on?  I'm stumped, but that's >> >> >> >> not hard to do.  I updated my machine the day prior to the first >> >> >> >> stoppage.  No other OS fiddling. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From tomh0665 at gmail.com Wed Apr 27 22:55:10 2011 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:55:10 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > After loading up 11.04  and fully updating it as of yesterday, I still have a > nagging problem and wonder if anyone else has seen it. > > After booting, the kernel goes through it's console messages (I'm using > vga=normal for console messages)  and then X starts up and I get the login > screen. > > If I go into an XFCE session, everything is fine including a konsole session. > > However, doing a CTL-BKSP-Fx  to get to a real console session I've never seen "CTL-BKSP-Fx" to go to a console session. Do you mean "Ctrl-Alt-Fx"? Unless you mean "Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc" to kill X and go to a console session? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Apr 27 23:59:08 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:59:08 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201104271959.08569.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Tom H wrote: > I've never seen "CTL-BKSP-Fx" to go to a console session. Do you mean > "Ctrl-Alt-Fx"? > > Unless you mean "Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc" to kill X and go to a console session? > Yep, sorry 'bout thet! That's what I meant. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 28 00:00:04 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:00:04 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201104272000.04282.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Tom H wrote: > I've never seen "CTL-BKSP-Fx" to go to a console session. Do you mean > "Ctrl-Alt-Fx"? > > Unless you mean "Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc" to kill X and go to a console session? No wait.... what I really wanted to say was CTL-ALT-Fx where x is 1 thru 6 From jprigot at verizon.net Thu Apr 28 00:36:13 2011 From: jprigot at verizon.net (Jonathan M. Prigot) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:36:13 -0400 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> Message-ID: <1303950973.2991.2.camel@FlyingPenguin.prigot.us> OK, try de-installing knetworkmanager and see if that does it. -- Jonathan M. Prigot On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:18 -0600, Homer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > > Yup. The usual entries are for NAMESERVER, DOMAIN, and optionally > > SEARCH. As to Ubuntu not using it anymore, you've seen what happens if > > that information is not there. As to where the contents of resolv.conf > > has gone (3 times), that's the mystery we are trying to solve, isn't it? > > Four times now. Uggg. Heading home in a sec, so will have to pick it > up tomorrow. Thank you for the comments/insight on this. > > > > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:35 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> wrote: > >> > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've > >> > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of > >> > the network. > >> > >> I'll consider doing that. I was just reviewing your previous > >> responses. Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the > >> dns and domain information? I thought I had read way back that ubuntu > >> no longer used that file. If it should be populated with that info, > >> then it is curious that it has been deleted three times. We know I > >> don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of > >> that file? > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" > >> >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this > >> >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. > >> >> > >> >> No DHCP is running. I took a look at Network Connections under System > >> >> Settings. Nothing is configured there. What about KNetworkManager? > >> >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running. Is that something I can > >> >> configure? If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is > >> >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at > >> >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can > >> >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on > >> >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP. We are moving > >> >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons. Might > >> >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about? I always > >> >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, > >> >> >> and that has always worked. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it > >> >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my > >> >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here > >> >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my > >> >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, > >> >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was > >> >> >> >> dubious. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the > >> >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and > >> >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 > >> >> >> >> minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above > >> >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's > >> >> >> >> not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first > >> >> >> >> stoppage. No other OS fiddling. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From tomh0665 at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 00:44:22 2011 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:44:22 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: <201104272000.04282.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201104272000.04282.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Tom H wrote: >> >> I've never seen "CTL-BKSP-Fx" to go to a console session. Do you mean >> "Ctrl-Alt-Fx"? >> >> Unless you mean "Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc" to kill X and go to a console session? > > No wait....  what I really wanted to say was CTL-ALT-Fx where x is 1 thru 6 I'm glad that you've clarified your answer because the previous one was unclear. :) What are you trying to achieve with "vga=normal"? The "vga=..." option is deprecated in grub2. I'd suggest that you set the following variables in "/etc/default/grub" and run update-grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= GRUB_TERMINAL=console GRUB_GFXMODE= GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX= And then change the variables to suit your needs and see whether you get the setup that you want and are able to go to a virtual terminal. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 28 01:07:57 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:07:57 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201104272000.04282.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201104272107.57315.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Tom H wrote: > >> > >> I've never seen "CTL-BKSP-Fx" to go to a console session. Do you mean > >> "Ctrl-Alt-Fx"? > >> > >> Unless you mean "Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc" to kill X and go to a console session? > > > > No wait.... what I really wanted to say was CTL-ALT-Fx where x is 1 thru 6 > > I'm glad that you've clarified your answer because the previous one > was unclear. :) > > What are you trying to achieve with "vga=normal"? The "vga=..." option > is deprecated in grub2. > > I'd suggest that you set the following variables in > "/etc/default/grub" and run update-grub: > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= > GRUB_TERMINAL=console > GRUB_GFXMODE= > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX= > I have those set, and grub is not the problem. If I let grub use it's gfx mode, I do not get any msgs at all nor do I get the splash screen. So I normally remove 'splash' and 'quiet' so I can get the msgs... and vga- normal was just an attempt to force a reasonable console mode. And it would be my guess that CTL-ALT-BkSpc doesn't work anymore. It does nothing when I try it. The problem remains. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Apr 28 01:33:57 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:33:57 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: <201104272107.57315.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201104272107.57315.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201104272133.57796.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Bruce Marshall wrote: > I have those set, and grub is not the problem. If I let grub use it's gfx > mode, I do not get any msgs at all nor do I get the splash screen. > > So I normally remove 'splash' and 'quiet' so I can get the msgs... and vga- > normal was just an attempt to force a reasonable console mode. > > And it would be my guess that CTL-ALT-BkSpc doesn't work anymore. It does > nothing when I try it. > > The problem remains. Definitely a bug there...... If I boot the recovery system (single) and then 'drop to a root shell', the console is fine. But even booting the recovery and asking to 'run in failsafe graphic mode' will not provide a working console mode. Once the terminal is placed into any graphic mode, it will not work as a real console. From tomh0665 at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 01:55:57 2011 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:55:57 -0400 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: <201104272107.57315.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201104272000.04282.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201104272107.57315.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> > On Wednesday, April 27, 2011, Tom H wrote: >> >> >> >> I've never seen "CTL-BKSP-Fx" to go to a console session. Do you mean >> >> "Ctrl-Alt-Fx"? >> >> >> >> Unless you mean "Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc" to kill X and go to a console session? >> > >> > No wait....  what I really wanted to say was CTL-ALT-Fx where x is 1 thru > 6 >> >> I'm glad that you've clarified your answer because the previous one >> was unclear. :) >> >> What are you trying to achieve with "vga=normal"? The "vga=..." option >> is deprecated in grub2. >> >> I'd suggest that you set the following variables in >> "/etc/default/grub" and run update-grub: >> >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= >> GRUB_TERMINAL=console >> GRUB_GFXMODE= >> GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX= > > I have those set, and grub is not the problem. If I let grub use it's gfx > mode, I do not get any msgs at all nor do I get the splash screen. > > So I normally remove 'splash'  and 'quiet' so I can get the msgs...  and vga- > normal was just an attempt to force a reasonable console mode. > > And it would be my guess that CTL-ALT-BkSpc doesn't work anymore. It does > nothing when I try it. > > The problem remains. The latter three "/etc/default/grub" variables above control the type and resolution of the VTs, so grub isn't totally unrelated to your problem. This looks like a KMS problem so you can try to set "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=nomodeset" for example or look into what settings fit with your graphic card. You can re-enable "Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc" with the "Key sequence to kill the X server" in the Keyboard Layout section of System Settings. You should also be able to enable it as a one-time setting (unless you put it into you dot or X settings) with "setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp". From tanghus at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 04:15:34 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 06:15:34 +0200 Subject: Natty problem with console video In-Reply-To: <201104272107.57315.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201104270856.29655.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201104272107.57315.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201104280615.35024.tanghus@gmail.com> On Thursday 28 April 2011 03:07:57 Bruce Marshall wrote: > And it would be my guess that CTL-ALT-BkSpc doesn't work anymore. It > does nothing when I try it. Not a solution to you problem, sorry, but Ctrl-Alt-Backspace now has to be activated in System Settings/Hardware/Input Devices/Keyboard/Advanced/Key sequence to kill the X server. I takes forever to find - maybe on purpose? -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From bqz69 at telia.com Thu Apr 28 11:59:50 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Random short freezes References: <201104211032.08040.info@alvin.be> <201104261737.53334.marcelo-sales@ig.com.br> <4DB86CDB.2010807@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: >> Marcelo > I have had the same problem since upgrading to kubuntu 10.10 on my > AMD64. I found out that the GPG program was using about 83+% of the cpu > clock cycles. > When I closed it, the problem went away. You may want to use your > System Monitor to check for programs like this. Sometimes when I see weird behaviour, I do a software update, and most often that helps? From fsunoles at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 14:48:00 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:48:00 -0600 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: <1303950973.2991.2.camel@FlyingPenguin.prigot.us> References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> <1303950973.2991.2.camel@FlyingPenguin.prigot.us> Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > OK, try de-installing knetworkmanager and see if that does it. I just uninstalled network-manager-kde. During that process I realized that / was at 100%. I cleared some junk out and it is now at 79%. One package had not properly been updated because of that. It was the linux-firmware package. No idea if that could be the culprit, but it has now been updated. I'll report back later today. > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:18 -0600, Homer wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: >> > Yup. The usual entries are for NAMESERVER, DOMAIN, and optionally >> > SEARCH. As to Ubuntu not using it anymore, you've seen what happens if >> > that information is not there. As to where the contents of resolv.conf >> > has gone (3 times), that's the mystery we are trying to solve, isn't it? >> >> Four times now.  Uggg.  Heading home in a sec, so will have to pick it >> up tomorrow.  Thank you for the comments/insight on this. >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:35 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> wrote: >> >> > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've >> >> > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of >> >> > the network. >> >> >> >> I'll consider doing that.  I was just reviewing your previous >> >> responses.  Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the >> >> dns and domain information?  I thought I had read way back that ubuntu >> >> no longer used that file.  If it should be populated with that info, >> >> then it is curious that it has been deleted three times.  We know I >> >> don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of >> >> that file? >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" >> >> >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this >> >> >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. >> >> >> >> >> >> No DHCP is running.  I took a look at Network Connections under System >> >> >> Settings.  Nothing is configured there.  What about KNetworkManager? >> >> >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running.  Is that something I can >> >> >> configure?  If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is >> >> >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at >> >> >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can >> >> >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on >> >> >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP.  We are moving >> >> >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons.  Might >> >> >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about?  I always >> >> >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, >> >> >> >> and that has always worked. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working.  I figured it >> >> >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my >> >> >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage.  Ultimately the IT folks here >> >> >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my >> >> >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file.  They added the nameservers and dns-search, >> >> >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed.  I was >> >> >> >> >> dubious. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again.  A quick check of the >> >> >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty.  I made the changes and >> >> >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again.  Then it stopped again 30 >> >> >> >> >> minutes later.  resolv.conf was again empty.  I repeated the above >> >> >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on?  I'm stumped, but that's >> >> >> >> >> not hard to do.  I updated my machine the day prior to the first >> >> >> >> >> stoppage.  No other OS fiddling. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 09:51:22 2011 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bastiaan Gijsbertus Roufs MA) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:51:22 +0200 Subject: Smooth upgrade to Kubuntu Natty. Positive first impression! Message-ID: <201104291151.26318.BasRoufs@gmail.com> Hello Everybody After finishing my work session at this netbook, I started the upgrade from Kubuntu Maverick (10.10) to Kubuntu Natty (11.04) yesterday evening. This morning, the upgrade smoothly and successfully finished. My first impressions of the new version are really positive. Some problems I had with the KOrganiser have been solved now. The combination Dolphin/ Samba works really well, as far as I can see. A really, really interesting innovation is the new possibility to flexibly change the user interface language: at the level of one single application language via HELP > Switch application language > (restart) at the level of the whole system via K-Menu > System Settings > System Languages > Locale > (restart) For a dedicated multilanguage user like me, this is a jolly good development! A minor point of attention is still a kind of system overload which sometimes occurs. E.g. while writing this message via Kontact, the overload reached such a level that the only option was restarting Kontact and the whole system. On the other hand, Kontact did automatically save a draft of this message, while that problem occurred. I am wondering how to deminish this overload problem. When looking at the system activity monitor, nothing special or extraordinary seems to happen. However it may be, I thank the developers for bringing Kubuntu and KDE to a more mature stage. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bas G. Roufs M.A. Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht E-mail: BasRoufs at gmail.com Mobile/ SMS: +31 6 446 835 10 Tel.: +31 30 785 20 40 Website in construction: viaconsensus.nl OS: Linux Kubuntu 11.04, kubuntu.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Prigot) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:47:24 -0400 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> <1303950973.2991.2.camel@FlyingPenguin.prigot.us> Message-ID: <1304084844.4709.0.camel@workbench> So, how did it go? -- Jonathan M. Prigot On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 08:48 -0600, Homer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > > OK, try de-installing knetworkmanager and see if that does it. > > I just uninstalled network-manager-kde. During that process I > realized that / was at 100%. I cleared some junk out and it is now at > 79%. One package had not properly been updated because of that. It > was the linux-firmware package. No idea if that could be the culprit, > but it has now been updated. I'll report back later today. > > > > > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:18 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > >> > Yup. The usual entries are for NAMESERVER, DOMAIN, and optionally > >> > SEARCH. As to Ubuntu not using it anymore, you've seen what happens if > >> > that information is not there. As to where the contents of resolv.conf > >> > has gone (3 times), that's the mystery we are trying to solve, isn't it? > >> > >> Four times now. Uggg. Heading home in a sec, so will have to pick it > >> up tomorrow. Thank you for the comments/insight on this. > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:35 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've > >> >> > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of > >> >> > the network. > >> >> > >> >> I'll consider doing that. I was just reviewing your previous > >> >> responses. Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the > >> >> dns and domain information? I thought I had read way back that ubuntu > >> >> no longer used that file. If it should be populated with that info, > >> >> then it is curious that it has been deleted three times. We know I > >> >> don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of > >> >> that file? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" > >> >> >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this > >> >> >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> No DHCP is running. I took a look at Network Connections under System > >> >> >> Settings. Nothing is configured there. What about KNetworkManager? > >> >> >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running. Is that something I can > >> >> >> configure? If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is > >> >> >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at > >> >> >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can > >> >> >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on > >> >> >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP. We are moving > >> >> >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons. Might > >> >> >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about? I always > >> >> >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, > >> >> >> >> and that has always worked. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it > >> >> >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my > >> >> >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here > >> >> >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my > >> >> >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, > >> >> >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was > >> >> >> >> >> dubious. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the > >> >> >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and > >> >> >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 > >> >> >> >> >> minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above > >> >> >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's > >> >> >> >> >> not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first > >> >> >> >> >> stoppage. No other OS fiddling. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 19:29:43 2011 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:29:43 +0200 Subject: Natty and wireless problems Message-ID: Hello! Upgraded to Natty last night and when i booted today I cant get my wireless network to activate. When I in the network applet click on the wireless checkbox to activate it, it immediately deactivates by itself. Anybody else have this problem? / Jonas From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Fri Apr 29 19:51:58 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: <452242078.1963277.1304106584934.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <484823679.1963403.1304106718922.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I've had a similar problem for multiple releases. Install wicd and then remove network manager and associated apps (there's 3 or 4 as I recall). The removal used to be part of the wicd install script. Start wicd with wcid-client Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Norlander" To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:29:43 PM Subject: Natty and wireless problems Hello! Upgraded to Natty last night and when i booted today I cant get my wireless network to activate. When I in the network applet click on the wireless checkbox to activate it, it immediately deactivates by itself. Anybody else have this problem? / Jonas -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fsunoles at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 20:36:14 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:36:14 -0600 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: <1304084844.4709.0.camel@workbench> References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> <1303950973.2991.2.camel@FlyingPenguin.prigot.us> <1304084844.4709.0.camel@workbench> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > So, how did it go? So far, so good. I freed up space on / yesterday morning, so I'm about 36 hours without trouble. I did delete knetworkmanager at about the same time though, so I can't say what helped. Thanks again for the suggestions. > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 08:48 -0600, Homer wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: >> > OK, try de-installing knetworkmanager and see if that does it. >> >> I just uninstalled network-manager-kde.  During that process I >> realized that / was at 100%.  I cleared some junk out and it is now at >> 79%.  One package had not properly been updated because of that.  It >> was the linux-firmware package.  No idea if that could be the culprit, >> but it has now been updated.  I'll report back later today. >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:18 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: >> >> > Yup. The usual entries are for NAMESERVER, DOMAIN, and optionally >> >> > SEARCH. As to Ubuntu not using it anymore, you've seen what happens if >> >> > that information is not there. As to where the contents of resolv.conf >> >> > has gone (3 times), that's the mystery we are trying to solve, isn't it? >> >> >> >> Four times now.  Uggg.  Heading home in a sec, so will have to pick it >> >> up tomorrow.  Thank you for the comments/insight on this. >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:35 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've >> >> >> > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of >> >> >> > the network. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'll consider doing that.  I was just reviewing your previous >> >> >> responses.  Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the >> >> >> dns and domain information?  I thought I had read way back that ubuntu >> >> >> no longer used that file.  If it should be populated with that info, >> >> >> then it is curious that it has been deleted three times.  We know I >> >> >> don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of >> >> >> that file? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" >> >> >> >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this >> >> >> >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No DHCP is running.  I took a look at Network Connections under System >> >> >> >> Settings.  Nothing is configured there.  What about KNetworkManager? >> >> >> >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running.  Is that something I can >> >> >> >> configure?  If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is >> >> >> >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at >> >> >> >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can >> >> >> >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on >> >> >> >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP.  We are moving >> >> >> >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons.  Might >> >> >> >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about?  I always >> >> >> >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, >> >> >> >> >> and that has always worked. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working.  I figured it >> >> >> >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my >> >> >> >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage.  Ultimately the IT folks here >> >> >> >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my >> >> >> >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file.  They added the nameservers and dns-search, >> >> >> >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed.  I was >> >> >> >> >> >> dubious. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again.  A quick check of the >> >> >> >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty.  I made the changes and >> >> >> >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again.  Then it stopped again 30 >> >> >> >> >> >> minutes later.  resolv.conf was again empty.  I repeated the above >> >> >> >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on?  I'm stumped, but that's >> >> >> >> >> >> not hard to do.  I updated my machine the day prior to the first >> >> >> >> >> >> stoppage.  No other OS fiddling. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From jprigot at verizon.net Fri Apr 29 20:40:02 2011 From: jprigot at verizon.net (Jonathan M. Prigot) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:40:02 -0400 Subject: Networking keeps stopping In-Reply-To: References: <1303921380.21908.12.camel@workbench> <1303923177.21908.16.camel@workbench> <1303925479.21908.19.camel@workbench> <1303937323.21908.24.camel@workbench> <1303950973.2991.2.camel@FlyingPenguin.prigot.us> <1304084844.4709.0.camel@workbench> Message-ID: <1304109602.3698.0.camel@workbench> Whichever it was, I'm glad to hear that you are back in business. -- Jonathan M. Prigot On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 14:36 -0600, Homer wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > > So, how did it go? > > So far, so good. I freed up space on / yesterday morning, so I'm > about 36 hours without trouble. I did delete knetworkmanager at about > the same time though, so I can't say what helped. Thanks again for > the suggestions. > > > > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 08:48 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > >> > OK, try de-installing knetworkmanager and see if that does it. > >> > >> I just uninstalled network-manager-kde. During that process I > >> realized that / was at 100%. I cleared some junk out and it is now at > >> 79%. One package had not properly been updated because of that. It > >> was the linux-firmware package. No idea if that could be the culprit, > >> but it has now been updated. I'll report back later today. > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:18 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jonathan M. Prigot wrote: > >> >> > Yup. The usual entries are for NAMESERVER, DOMAIN, and optionally > >> >> > SEARCH. As to Ubuntu not using it anymore, you've seen what happens if > >> >> > that information is not there. As to where the contents of resolv.conf > >> >> > has gone (3 times), that's the mystery we are trying to solve, isn't it? > >> >> > >> >> Four times now. Uggg. Heading home in a sec, so will have to pick it > >> >> up tomorrow. Thank you for the comments/insight on this. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 14:35 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > Well KNetworkManager is just the front end to NetworkManager. I've > >> >> >> > always "apt-get removed" on my systems that need full manual control of > >> >> >> > the network. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I'll consider doing that. I was just reviewing your previous > >> >> >> responses. Is it correct to say that resolv.conf should contain the > >> >> >> dns and domain information? I thought I had read way back that ubuntu > >> >> >> no longer used that file. If it should be populated with that info, > >> >> >> then it is curious that it has been deleted three times. We know I > >> >> >> don't have DHCP running, so what else would delete the contents of > >> >> >> that file? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 11:24 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Best indication would be "ps -ef|grep dh". If anything but your "grep" > >> >> >> >> > command comes up, then you are running a DHCP client. Not sure if this > >> >> >> >> > applies, but NetworkManager often sneaks this. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> No DHCP is running. I took a look at Network Connections under System > >> >> >> >> Settings. Nothing is configured there. What about KNetworkManager? > >> >> >> >> "ps -ef|grep net" indicates it is running. Is that something I can > >> >> >> >> configure? If I select it from the K menu, nothing happens. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:38 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Jonathan M. Prigot > >> >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > My guess is that you are using DHCP on your network. The DHCP server is > >> >> >> >> >> > responsible for supplying the entries in /etc/resolv.conf. Someone at > >> >> >> >> >> > the server end probably deleted those entries. As you see, you can > >> >> >> >> >> > manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf file, but when the DHCP client on > >> >> >> >> >> > your machine refreshes, they disappear. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Good guess, but my machine has always had a static IP. We are moving > >> >> >> >> >> to DHCP here, but I've been a hold out for a number of reasons. Might > >> >> >> >> >> I have DHCP running on my machine I don't know about? I always > >> >> >> >> >> configure my network info by editing the /etc/network/interfaces file, > >> >> >> >> >> and that has always worked. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:07 -0600, Homer wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> Kubuntu 10.04 > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yesterday the networking on my machine stopped working. I figured it > >> >> >> >> >> >> was something in the building as I didn't make any changes on my > >> >> >> >> >> >> computer that preceded the stoppage. Ultimately the IT folks here > >> >> >> >> >> >> concluded the problem was I didn't have any entries in my > >> >> >> >> >> >> /etc/resolv.conf file. They added the nameservers and dns-search, > >> >> >> >> >> >> which got things going, and my machine was declared fixed. I was > >> >> >> >> >> >> dubious. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> This morning networking stopped again. A quick check of the > >> >> >> >> >> >> resolv.conf file showed it again to be empty. I made the changes and > >> >> >> >> >> >> restarted networking and was off again. Then it stopped again 30 > >> >> >> >> >> >> minutes later. resolv.conf was again empty. I repeated the above > >> >> >> >> >> >> steps, and am posting here before it quits again. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyone have any idea what is really going on? I'm stumped, but that's > >> >> >> >> >> >> not hard to do. I updated my machine the day prior to the first > >> >> >> >> >> >> stoppage. No other OS fiddling. > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > -- > >> >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > From tesmai4 at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 21:59:18 2011 From: tesmai4 at gmail.com (tesmail) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:59:18 +0200 Subject: Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: <484823679.1963403.1304106718922.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <452242078.1963277.1304106584934.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <484823679.1963403.1304106718922.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi, My wireless interface is not installed after upgrading to Kubuntu 11.04 from 10.04. It was working fine in the previous versaion. I installed wicd and removed the network-manager, but of no use. Any clue or help is appreciated. Regards, Tariq Abdullah On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, wrote: > I've had a similar problem for multiple releases. > > Install wicd and *then* remove network manager and associated apps > (there's 3 or 4 as I recall). The removal used to be part of the wicd > install script. > > Start wicd with wcid-client > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonas Norlander" > To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:29:43 PM > Subject: Natty and wireless problems > > Hello! > > Upgraded to Natty last night and when i booted today I cant get my > wireless network to activate. When I in the network applet click on > the wireless checkbox to activate it, it immediately deactivates by > itself. > > Anybody else have this problem? > > / Jonas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat Apr 30 05:19:52 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 07:19:52 +0200 Subject: Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: References: <452242078.1963277.1304106584934.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <484823679.1963403.1304106718922.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <201104300719.52179.kassube@gmx.net> tesmail wrote: > My wireless interface is not installed after upgrading to Kubuntu > 11.04 from 10.04. It was working fine in the previous versaion. > I installed wicd and removed the network-manager, but of no use. Did you somehow upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04? That path would not be supported and might be the reason for the problem. But which ever way you used to upgrade, it would be good to know which wireless card you are using. Please post the output of the commands lspci lsusb in a terminal. And have a look at this page - maybe it helps you to identify the problem: Nils From tesmai4 at gmail.com Sat Apr 30 06:58:33 2011 From: tesmai4 at gmail.com (tesmail) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:58:33 +0200 Subject: Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: <201104300719.52179.kassube@gmx.net> References: <452242078.1963277.1304106584934.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <484823679.1963403.1304106718922.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <201104300719.52179.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Dear Nils, Thanks for your reply. It is a fresh installation of 11.04. Below is the output from the commands. Output from lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 05) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 05) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a5) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 4 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 05) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series] 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan HDMI Audio [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series] 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02) 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) 7f:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 05) 7f:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 05) 7f:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 05) 7f:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 05) 7f:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 05) 7f:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 05) Output from lsusb: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c03e Logitech, Inc. Premium Optical Wheel Mouse (M-BT58) Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 5986:0149 Acer, Inc Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > tesmail wrote: > > My wireless interface is not installed after upgrading to Kubuntu > > 11.04 from 10.04. It was working fine in the previous versaion. > > I installed wicd and removed the network-manager, but of no use. > > Did you somehow upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04? That path would > not be supported and might be the reason for the problem. > > But which ever way you used to upgrade, it would be good to know which > wireless card you are using. Please post the output of the commands > > lspci > lsusb > > in a terminal. 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URL: From philkemling at yahoo.com Sat Apr 30 07:18:24 2011 From: philkemling at yahoo.com (phil kemling) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: <484823679.1963403.1304106718922.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <782608.3197.qm@web43139.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> yes i do with my 10.10 version adapter worked fine with 9.10 but now connects then disconnects so i gave up n hooked direct cuz of it and i have plenty of space always i use external hard drive to store stuff --- On Fri, 4/29/11, pkaplan1 at comcast.net wrote: From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net Subject: Re: Natty and wireless problems To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Date: Friday, April 29, 2011, 3:51 PM #yiv1622042071 p {margin:0;}I've had a similar problem for multiple releases. Install wicd and then remove network manager and associated apps (there's 3 or 4 as I recall).  The removal used to be part of the wicd install script. Start wicd with wcid-client Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Norlander" To: "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 3:29:43 PM Subject: Natty and wireless problems Hello! Upgraded to Natty last night and when i booted today I cant get my wireless network to activate. When I in the network applet click on the wireless checkbox to activate it, it immediately deactivates by itself. Anybody else have this problem? / Jonas -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -----Inline Attachment Follows----- -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonorland at gmail.com Sat Apr 30 07:46:20 2011 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:46:20 +0200 Subject: [SOLVED] Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2011/4/29 Jonas Norlander : > Hello! > > Upgraded to Natty last night and when i booted today I cant get my > wireless network to activate. When I in the network applet click on > the wireless checkbox to activate it, it immediately deactivates by > itself. > > Anybody else have this problem? > > / Jonas > This thread got me on right track: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677127 It turned out that the acer-wmi module are blocking the wifi and possibly also made some special key not work (like turn on/off wifi and bluetooth). Adding "blacklist acer-wmi" to "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" and reboot solved my problems. / Jonas From tanghus at gmail.com Sat Apr 30 07:59:47 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:59:47 +0200 Subject: How do I get KPackagekit to stop bitching me to upgrade to Natty? Message-ID: <201104300959.48952.tanghus@gmail.com> Well, subject says it all... -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From kassube at gmx.net Sat Apr 30 10:48:45 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 12:48:45 +0200 Subject: Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: References: <452242078.1963277.1304106584934.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <201104300719.52179.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201104301248.45902.kassube@gmx.net> tesmail wrote: > Thanks for your reply. It is a fresh installation of 11.04. I see - a fresh install and not really an upgrade, technically. And it is is of course always supported. > Below is > the output from the commands. > 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n > Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) OK, that is a Broadcom card which should be supported (and actually you wrote that it worked with 10.04). IIRC, there are several Broadcom drivers and maybe the wrong one was automatically selected for some reason, or perhaps the firmware is missing. However I can't help you further because I'm not familiar with Broadcom chipsets. Hopefully someone else on this list has an idea what to do. Nils From claydoh at claydoh.com Sat Apr 30 14:53:23 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:53:23 -0400 Subject: How do I get KPackagekit to stop bitching me to upgrade to Natty? In-Reply-To: <201104300959.48952.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <201104300959.48952.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201104301053.23949.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Saturday, April 30, 2011 03:59:47 AM Thomas Olsen wrote: > Well, subject says it all... Settings >> Edit Origins>>Updates tab clay From tanghus at gmail.com Sat Apr 30 19:30:33 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 21:30:33 +0200 Subject: How do I get KPackagekit to stop bitching me to upgrade to Natty? In-Reply-To: <201104301053.23949.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201104300959.48952.tanghus@gmail.com> <201104301053.23949.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201104302130.34459.tanghus@gmail.com> On Saturday 30 April 2011 16:53:23 Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday, April 30, 2011 03:59:47 AM Thomas Olsen wrote: > > Well, subject says it all... > > Settings >> Edit Origins>>Updates tab > > clay Thanks :-) -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L