From info at alvin.be Thu Dec 1 12:39:58 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:39:58 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> Message-ID: <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> On Wednesday 30 November 2011 16:43:27 Daniel Manrique wrote: > Hello dear Kubuntuers! > > [...] > http://friendly.ubuntu.com/ > > The website contains instructions on how to run the test client and submit > results; the test client is included in Ubuntu by default. > > Our efforts have mainly been focused on Ubuntu, so while we have done some > work to enable Kubuntu users to run the tests (install checkbox-gtk and > gstreamer0.10-gconf), we are not too sure on how real Kubuntu users > perceive the whole Ubuntu Friendly experience: from client installation to > running the test suite, to submitting results and querying the webpage. > > Thus we'd like to request your valuable help in ensuring that Ubuntu > Friendly is equally comfortable for Kubuntu users. > [...] I'm happy that Canonical asks Kubuntu users to join this initiative. You should do things like this more often. In this case, we'll need a bit more instructions. - From the site: "It is in Ubuntu by default. Just search by Ubuntu Friendly or System Testing in the Dash". In Kubuntu, it's not installed by default. Let's use the command line to find it: ~$ aptitude search friendly i friendly-recovery - Make recovery more user-friendly That's probably not the right package. So, my humble suggestion would be: put the name of the needed package on that site. From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 13:11:50 2011 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 08:41:50 -0430 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> Message-ID: Hi! On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Alvin wrote: > On Wednesday 30 November 2011 16:43:27 Daniel Manrique wrote: >> Hello dear Kubuntuers! >> >> [...] >> http://friendly.ubuntu.com/ >> >> The website contains instructions on how to run the test client and submit >> results; the test client is included in Ubuntu by default. >> >> Our efforts have mainly been focused on Ubuntu, so while we have done some >> work to enable Kubuntu users to run the tests (install checkbox-gtk and >> gstreamer0.10-gconf), we are not too sure on how real Kubuntu users >> perceive the whole Ubuntu Friendly experience: from client installation to >> running the test suite, to submitting results and querying the webpage. >> >> Thus we'd like to request your valuable help in ensuring that Ubuntu >> Friendly is equally comfortable for Kubuntu users. >> [...] > > I'm happy that Canonical asks Kubuntu users to join this initiative. You > should do things like this more often. > > In this case, we'll need a bit more instructions. > - From the site: "It is in Ubuntu by default. Just search by Ubuntu Friendly > or System Testing in the Dash". >  In Kubuntu, it's not installed by default. Let's use the command line to > find it: >  ~$ aptitude search friendly >  i   friendly-recovery            - Make recovery more user-friendly > That's probably not the right package. > > So, my humble suggestion would be: put the name of the needed package on that > site. The package is checkbox-gtk , and the program's name (to find using Kickoff) would be "System Testing"... but yes, you are right: the instructions on the site are clearly aimed at Unity users. From info at alvin.be Thu Dec 1 13:56:07 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:56:07 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> Message-ID: <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> On Thursday 01 December 2011 08:41:50 Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > [. ..] > The package is checkbox-gtk , and the program's name (to find using > Kickoff) would be "System Testing"... but yes, you are right: the > instructions on the site are clearly aimed at Unity users. Well, I got it to run, but it's about as stable as the current kdepim. During the first audio test, I didn't hear any audio and something crashed. Apport was able to file https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898641 After that, the test suite crashed itself. Apport was unable to report that problem: "Cannot connect to crash database". Actually I don't worry too much about hardware compatibility. It deals mostly with the kernel and compatibility will very similar to Ubuntu. If I were to choose between guaranteed working audio, fancy 3D effects or a stable kdepim, I'd choose the stable kdepim :-) We haven't had a proper default mail client since the days of KDE3. This is personal of course. I don't pretend to speak for the Kubuntu users community. From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 15:43:00 2011 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:13:00 -0430 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alvin wrote: > On Thursday 01 December 2011 08:41:50 Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> [. ..] >> The package is checkbox-gtk , and the program's name (to find using >> Kickoff) would be "System Testing"... but yes, you are right: the >> instructions on the site are clearly aimed at Unity users. > > Well, I got it to run, but it's about as stable as the current kdepim. well... kdepim is a little less stable. > > During the first audio test, I didn't hear any audio and something crashed. > Apport was able to file https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898641 > After that, the test suite crashed itself. Apport was unable to report that > problem: "Cannot connect to crash database". > > Actually I don't worry too much about hardware compatibility. It deals mostly > with the kernel and compatibility will very similar to Ubuntu. If I were to > choose between guaranteed working audio, fancy 3D effects or a stable kdepim, > I'd choose the stable kdepim :-) We haven't had a proper default mail client > since the days of KDE3. This is personal of course. I don't pretend to speak > for the Kubuntu users community. +1 here, I want to get out of thunderbird... but kdepim is not working properly... yet. Anyway, I had better luck with the checkbox app, but it didn't detected when I inserted the usb storage device, even though KDE saw it, and I was able to use it. However, USB plug test was successful, so, maybe it depends on something from Unity to tell if the USB storage was inserted. Ildefonso. From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 22:16:52 2011 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:16:52 +1000 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> Message-ID: <1844172.8OktG5jknm@lindsay-11-10> On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:13:00 AM Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > I'd choose the stable kdepim We haven't had a proper default mail > > client > > since the days of KDE3. This is personal of course. I don't pretend to > > speak for the Kubuntu users community. > > +1 here, I want to get out of thunderbird... but kdepim is not working > properly... yet. I'd just like to put in a good word for the latest kdepim - I had given up on it for a while as well, but the 4.7.3 version has *really* come together. Interestingly it seems to work better with IMAP or dIMAP accounts that local ones. Currently I'm using it with my GMail account and it is coping *very* well and looks fabulous. Its nice to use something so well integrated with KDE use and look. There is a problem with the "Mail Dispatcher" agent disabling itself but that can be restarted using the akonadiconsole and apparently the problem is resolved in 4.7.4 Still some issues involving CPU load and nepomuk but a fix for that is in 4.8, I've been testing the 4.8 beta via project neon and it looks even better. In short, definitely worth a revisit with 4.7.3 and with 4.8 it should finally be suitable for general usage - think KDE 4.6 :) Caveats: - Account migration seems somewhat dodgy still. I've been working from a fresh start with IMAP accounts. -- Lindsay From daniel.manrique at canonical.com Thu Dec 1 22:31:00 2011 From: daniel.manrique at canonical.com (Daniel Manrique) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:31:00 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> Message-ID: <4ED80024.3020307@canonical.com> On 11-12-01 07:39 AM, Alvin wrote: > On Wednesday 30 November 2011 16:43:27 Daniel Manrique wrote: >> Hello dear Kubuntuers! >> >> [...] >> http://friendly.ubuntu.com/ >> >> The website contains instructions on how to run the test client and submit >> results; the test client is included in Ubuntu by default. >> >> Our efforts have mainly been focused on Ubuntu, so while we have done some >> work to enable Kubuntu users to run the tests (install checkbox-gtk and >> gstreamer0.10-gconf), we are not too sure on how real Kubuntu users >> perceive the whole Ubuntu Friendly experience: from client installation to >> running the test suite, to submitting results and querying the webpage. >> >> Thus we'd like to request your valuable help in ensuring that Ubuntu >> Friendly is equally comfortable for Kubuntu users. >> [...] > > I'm happy that Canonical asks Kubuntu users to join this initiative. You > should do things like this more often. Thanks! Ubuntu Friendly has a driving group called "Ubuntu Friendly Squad" - everyone is welcome to join, and we'd love to have someone with the Kubuntu perspective in the group. > In this case, we'll need a bit more instructions. > - From the site: "It is in Ubuntu by default. Just search by Ubuntu Friendly > or System Testing in the Dash". We can add a section detailing instructions for Kubuntu, with at least a link at the very top so it doesn't confuse people who may try to follow the first set of instructions without realizing there's a specific one for Kubuntu. > In Kubuntu, it's not installed by default. Let's use the command line to > find it: > ~$ aptitude search friendly > i friendly-recovery - Make recovery more user-friendly > That's probably not the right package. > > So, my humble suggestion would be: put the name of the needed package on that > site. As mentioned by José Camargo on this thread, the package is checkbox-gtk. However you're right that Ubuntu Friendly is not mentioned anywhere on the package data, so it will not be easy to find with a package manager. We could do this, and also we can add instructions on how to install the needed packages (checkbox-gtk and gstreamer0.10-gconf currently) on Kubuntu. Also, the gstreamer dependency can be handled on our side so all you'd need to do is install checkbox-gtk to get all the needed packages. What's the preferred package management frontend in Kubuntu? in my explorations I found Muon but I'm unsure if this is what people actually use. Thanks so much for your thoughts on this. It already makes for a good start in making sure that Ubuntu Friendly is easy to install and use for Kubuntu users and gives us some work items to move towards this goal. I'll keep an eye out in case you (or anyone else here) have questions about Ubuntu Friendly. Regards, - Daniel From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 22:37:32 2011 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 18:07:32 -0430 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <1844172.8OktG5jknm@lindsay-11-10> References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> <1844172.8OktG5jknm@lindsay-11-10> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:13:00 AM Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> > I'd choose the stable kdepim  We haven't had a proper default mail >> > client >> > since the days of KDE3. This is personal of course. I don't pretend to >> > speak for the Kubuntu users community. >> >> +1 here, I want to get out of thunderbird... but kdepim is not working >> properly... yet. > > > I'd just like to put in a good word for the latest kdepim - I had given up on > it for a while as well, but the 4.7.3 version has *really* come together. > Interestingly it seems to work better with IMAP or dIMAP accounts that local > ones. Currently I'm using it with my GMail account and it is coping *very* > well and looks fabulous. Its nice to use something so well integrated with KDE > use and look. Yep, I'm using 4.7.3... still, it has this awful issue: I have INBOX folder with subfolders: Sent, Trash, .... If I try to configure them all (default), all folders has mails, except INBOX.... if I change server-side subscriptions, and disable all folders but INBOX (root for others), then it shows messages... > > There is a problem with the  "Mail Dispatcher" agent disabling itself but that > can be restarted using the akonadiconsole and apparently the problem is > resolved in 4.7.4 > > Still some issues involving CPU load and nepomuk but a fix for that is in 4.8, > I've been testing the 4.8 beta via project neon and it looks even better. Yeah, CPU usage too, nepomuk... and not related to kdepim, Strigi still wants to re-index everything everytime I login.... I decided to just disable it.... as a matter of fact, I don't yet know how to use the indexes it creates, so.. it is not like I'm losing something vital there. > > In short, definitely worth a revisit with 4.7.3 and with 4.8 it should finally > be suitable for general usage - think KDE 4.6 :) > > > Caveats: > - Account migration seems somewhat dodgy still. I've been working from a fresh > start with IMAP accounts. > > > > > -- > Lindsay > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From fatgerman at gmail.com Thu Dec 1 22:42:16 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 22:42:16 +0000 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <4ED80024.3020307@canonical.com> References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> <4ED80024.3020307@canonical.com> Message-ID: On 1 Dec 2011, at 22:31, Daniel Manrique wrote: > > What's the preferred package management frontend in Kubuntu? sudo apt-get install ;) We used to have a nice one called KPackagekit but for some reason it was replaced with Muon, which is the default now. Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.manrique at canonical.com Thu Dec 1 22:56:02 2011 From: daniel.manrique at canonical.com (Daniel Manrique) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:56:02 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> Message-ID: <4ED80602.1060104@canonical.com> On 11-12-01 08:56 AM, Alvin wrote: > On Thursday 01 December 2011 08:41:50 Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> [. ..] >> The package is checkbox-gtk , and the program's name (to find using >> Kickoff) would be "System Testing"... but yes, you are right: the >> instructions on the site are clearly aimed at Unity users. > > Well, I got it to run, but it's about as stable as the current kdepim. I'm not sure if this is good or bad :) > During the first audio test, I didn't hear any audio and something crashed. > Apport was able to file https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898641 > After that, the test suite crashed itself. Apport was unable to report that > problem: "Cannot connect to crash database". I looked at and triaged your bug report (thanks!). This is caused by a missing dependency, something we can fix on our end. Once you install that dependency tests should run correctly. > Actually I don't worry too much about hardware compatibility. It deals mostly > with the kernel and compatibility will very similar to Ubuntu. If I were to Yes, kernel-level hardware support should pretty much be the same, and you're right that we don't focus on applications themselves, so test results should be pretty much interchangeable. Still, we'd like to ensure that if a Kubuntu user wants to run the tests and contribute with Ubuntu Friendly (something we very much appreciate), (s)he is able to do so with minimum hassle. Thanks and regards, - Daniel > choose between guaranteed working audio, fancy 3D effects or a stable kdepim, > I'd choose the stable kdepim :-) We haven't had a proper default mail client > since the days of KDE3. This is personal of course. I don't pretend to speak > for the Kubuntu users community. From daniel.manrique at canonical.com Thu Dec 1 22:59:44 2011 From: daniel.manrique at canonical.com (Daniel Manrique) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:59:44 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> Message-ID: <4ED806E0.8040302@canonical.com> On 11-12-01 10:43 AM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Alvin wrote: >> On Thursday 01 December 2011 08:41:50 Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >>> [. ..] >>> The package is checkbox-gtk , and the program's name (to find using >>> Kickoff) would be "System Testing"... but yes, you are right: the >>> instructions on the site are clearly aimed at Unity users. >> >> Well, I got it to run, but it's about as stable as the current kdepim. > > well... kdepim is a little less stable. I'll take this as a compliment for checkbox :) >> >> During the first audio test, I didn't hear any audio and something crashed. >> Apport was able to file https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/898641 >> After that, the test suite crashed itself. Apport was unable to report that >> problem: "Cannot connect to crash database". >> >> Actually I don't worry too much about hardware compatibility. It deals mostly >> with the kernel and compatibility will very similar to Ubuntu. If I were to >> choose between guaranteed working audio, fancy 3D effects or a stable kdepim, >> I'd choose the stable kdepim :-) We haven't had a proper default mail client >> since the days of KDE3. This is personal of course. I don't pretend to speak >> for the Kubuntu users community. > > +1 here, I want to get out of thunderbird... but kdepim is not working > properly... yet. > > Anyway, I had better luck with the checkbox app, but it didn't > detected when I inserted the usb storage device, even though KDE saw > it, and I was able to use it. However, USB plug test was successful, > so, maybe it depends on something from Unity to tell if the USB > storage was inserted. Thanks for running the tests! I'm curious about the test where it failed to detect when you inserted the usb storage device. Could you tell me which one it was? I know there's one of the tests where, if you plug in the device and *immediately* press Test, it fails, because the drive still hasn't settled/isn't mounted. You can press "test again" and see if it works this time, or, better yet, let me know which test it was so we can fix it :) Thanks for taking the time to report this back to me, I really appreciate it. Regards, - Daniel > Ildefonso. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Dec 1 23:39:59 2011 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 17:39:59 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <2615834.5OVEKoiIbl@pc-alvin> <4ED80024.3020307@canonical.com> Message-ID: <4ED8104F.2090000@swbell.net> On 12/01/2011 04:42 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > On 1 Dec 2011, at 22:31, Daniel Manrique wrote: >> >> What's the preferred package management frontend in Kubuntu? > > sudo apt-get install ;) > > We used to have a nice one called KPackagekit but for some reason it was > replaced with Muon, which is the default now. > > Mark > > IMO, the last couple versions of Kpackagekit was pure excrement. I've been using Synaptic. I don't mind Muon to much. Just use synaptic out of habit. -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Fri Dec 2 00:59:31 2011 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:59:31 +1000 Subject: Ubuntu Friendly programme and Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <4ED6A37F.905@canonical.com> <4353413.RpbYLJzeqa@pc-alvin> <1844172.8OktG5jknm@lindsay-11-10> Message-ID: On 2 December 2011 08:37, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa < ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com> wrote: > Yep, I'm using 4.7.3... still, it has this awful issue: > > I have INBOX folder with subfolders: Sent, Trash, .... > > If I try to configure them all (default), all folders has mails, > except INBOX.... if I change server-side subscriptions, and disable > all folders but INBOX (root for others), then it shows messages... > Interesting, I'm not seeing that with Gmail, but I did just see it yesterday with a test account I setup on my work IMAP server (Mdaemon 9.x), I had to turn server side subscriptions off before I could see it. What email server are you connecting to? > > > > Still some issues involving CPU load and nepomuk but a fix for that is > in 4.8, > > I've been testing the 4.8 beta via project neon and it looks even better. > > Yeah, CPU usage too, nepomuk... and not related to kdepim, Strigi > still wants to re-index everything everytime I login.... I decided to > just disable it.... as a matter of fact, I don't yet know how to use > the indexes it creates, so.. it is not like I'm losing something vital > there. > If you switch your message list aggregation to Flat Date View, no grouping (rather than the default thread, group by date) does thhat improve things? > > -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From stvrly at gmail.com Fri Dec 2 22:36:43 2011 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:36:43 -0800 Subject: Audio Drops In Kubuntu In-Reply-To: <4ED5158F.2000906@gmail.com> References: <4ED5158F.2000906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ED952FB.9060006@gmail.com> Happens to me on occasion, too. I learned from the KDE page on PulseAudio's wiki that running start-pulseaudio-kde fixes this. Temporarily, at least, until the problem recurs. ______________ Steve Riley stvrly at gmail.com On 2011-11-29 09:25, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > I started to miss Ubuntu ;-) Ran into yet another problem. The audio > suddenly dropped and I could not play anything. Under audio settings > it only shows pulse audio. > > I have p7p55d -e LX motherboard VIA HD Sound card. It happened before > with 11.04 and since audio will disappear any time I switched to > Ubuntu. 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Sinclair) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 08:59:02 +0200 Subject: how to remove kdepim or disable nepomuk & akonadi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ED9C8B6.3050703@gmail.com> On 03/12/11 02:52, China wrote: > Caras > > I want disable nepomuk and akonadi, I do not use kdepim. I try do > aptitude purge kdepim, and de system only offrer oen choice: remove > all kde desktop!!!!!!!!!! > > How I can remove all kdepim packages? Or, only disable nepomuk and > akonadi? Nepomuk and akonadi is cause poor performance and sucking the > netbook's battery!!!! > In System Settings, find Desktop Search and disable both available choices. You can also go to the Service Manager (Startup in System Settings) and disable the Nepomuk Notifier. Reboot and relax. It should be noted that I am, after x number of moves I hardly remember any more, a happy KDEPIM 4.7.3 user Sinclair From jonorland at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 11:03:24 2011 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 12:03:24 +0100 Subject: language-pack-sv dependcies problem Message-ID: Hi! Just want to share this so others don't get into same problems as I did. I had some problem with a recent upgrade of language-pack-sv. Version 1:11.10+20111121 have dependencie problems and for some reason muon removed all language-pack-* kde-l10-* package from my system. This caused a lot of problems browsing folders and files with non ASCII character, Muon crashing when trying to install package again, non translated programs and strange behavior. When booting into recovery mode, friendly-recovery would not start complaining about non tty or something. Eventually I manage to install previous version of langauage-pack-sv with "apt-get install language-pack-sv=1:11.10+20111006" and could then install the rest of the language package and it now looks like my problems is solved. / Jonas From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 03:30:36 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 10:30:36 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts Message-ID: Hello, I am using Kubuntu 11.10. The KDE is look like hang while starts. It took very long for the splash screen. What should I do to get the detailed error log? Thanks! -- Zaki Akhmad From theuteck at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 03:39:59 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:39:59 -0600 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2558749.6eG8lsNKgB@allmine> On Monday, December 05, 2011 10:30:36 AM Zaki Akhmad wrote: > Hello, > > I am using Kubuntu 11.10. The KDE is look like hang while starts. It > took very long for the splash screen. > > What should I do to get the detailed error log? > > Thanks! Look in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/message, they may show what is going on. Does it do this every time, or just this once? My gut reaction is that it was running a fsck on a partition. You can normally press ESC to see what is going on under the splash screen. From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 07:49:07 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:49:07 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <2558749.6eG8lsNKgB@allmine> References: <2558749.6eG8lsNKgB@allmine> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM, wrote: > Look in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/message, they may show what is going on. > Does it do this every time, or just this once?  My gut reaction is that it was > running a fsck on a partition.  You can normally press ESC to see what is > going on under the splash screen. I think I'm using wrong word. It's look like hang after I entered my userid & password at the KDM. The splash screen after I log in. It took me around 3 minutes to get my KDE plasma starts. How to solve this problem? Which log I should see? -- Zaki Akhmad From thomas at tanghus.net Mon Dec 5 09:20:20 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:20:20 +0100 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: <2558749.6eG8lsNKgB@allmine> Message-ID: <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> On Monday 05 December 2011 14:49 Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM, wrote: > > Look in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/message, they may show what is going > > on. Does it do this every time, or just this once? My gut reaction is > > that it was running a fsck on a partition. You can normally press ESC > > to see what is going on under the splash screen. > > I think I'm using wrong word. > > It's look like hang after I entered my userid & password at the KDM. > The splash screen after I log in. It took me around 3 minutes to get > my KDE plasma starts. > > How to solve this problem? Which log I should see? If it's after login you could have a look at ~/.xsession-errors It's usually very bloated and doesn't have timestamps so it will probably be hard to find the reason. You could also try to create a new user account and see if login takes just as long time. If it does it could indicate that it's a system wide problem. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 10:48:58 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:48:58 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> References: <2558749.6eG8lsNKgB@allmine> <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > If it's after login you could have a look at ~/.xsession-errors > It's usually very bloated and doesn't have timestamps so it will probably be > hard to find the reason. Yup, I could see the log now. I think it's from nepomuk or akonadi service. How to reconfigure these things? > You could also try to create a new user account and see if login takes just as > long time. If it does it could indicate that it's a system wide problem. Will try! > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thanks! -- Zaki Akhmad From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 10:57:18 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:57:18 +0200 Subject: kubuntu 11.10 amd64 and AMD Catalyst Message-ID: <4EDCA38E.8020402@gmail.com> I have tried and failed to install the proprietary driver for my ATI card. Whether I use the "jockey" or install from the repos or if I download from AMD site I still fail. Anyone has had any luck and can point me in the right direction? Best regards Sinclair From info at alvin.be Mon Dec 5 11:59:53 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:59:53 +0100 Subject: kubuntu 11.10 amd64 and AMD Catalyst In-Reply-To: <4EDCA38E.8020402@gmail.com> References: <4EDCA38E.8020402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EDCB239.6040301@alvin.be> On 05/12/2011 11:57, O. Sinclair wrote: > I have tried and failed to install the proprietary driver for my ATI card. > > Whether I use the "jockey" or install from the repos or if I download > from AMD site I still fail. > > Anyone has had any luck and can point me in the right direction? It would be useful to know: - Your Kubuntu version - Your card model - The failure message. From fatgerman at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 12:14:09 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:14:09 +0000 Subject: Unable to start ConsoleKit session Message-ID: <0F56071F-16F0-49D8-B909-EB688303689E@gmail.com> This is on Kubuntu Natty with all the updates from the Kubuntu PPAs (KDE 4.7.2) After logging in the desktop pauses for a long time and then I get a dialog that says: Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit Session Unable to open session: Activation of org.FreeDesktop.consolekit timed out. It's only started happening recently and I'm not sure what changed, if anything. It doesn't do it every time, probably about 70% of the time. If I get this message then I can't do important things like mount external disks so I have to reboot (logging out and logging back in seems to cure the ConsoleKit problem but then KDE doesn't redraw windows properly, which is probably an NVIDIA driver bug so I'm not worrying about that at the moment). From Googling around it seems this is some kind of race condition. Anyone else seen this and know of a workaround? Mark From thomas at tanghus.net Mon Dec 5 13:18:15 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:18:15 +0100 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> Message-ID: <3531314.kGNPLeWxsl@tanghus> On Monday 05 December 2011 17:48 Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > If it's after login you could have a look at ~/.xsession-errors > > It's usually very bloated and doesn't have timestamps so it will > > probably be hard to find the reason. > > Yup, I could see the log now. > > I think it's from nepomuk or akonadi service. How to reconfigure these > things? You could try to disable Nepomuk from System Settings/Desktop Search. If that helps you should have narrowed it down enough to file a bug report on Nepomuk imho. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 13:31:11 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:31:11 +0200 Subject: kubuntu 11.10 amd64 and AMD Catalyst In-Reply-To: <4EDCB239.6040301@alvin.be> References: <4EDCA38E.8020402@gmail.com> <4EDCB239.6040301@alvin.be> Message-ID: <4EDCC79F.9030202@gmail.com> On 05/12/11 13:59, Alvin wrote: > On 05/12/2011 11:57, O. Sinclair wrote: >> I have tried and failed to install the proprietary driver for my ATI card. >> >> Whether I use the "jockey" or install from the repos or if I download >> from AMD site I still fail. >> >> Anyone has had any luck and can point me in the right direction? > > It would be useful to know: > - Your Kubuntu version > - Your card model > - The failure message. > the kubuntu version is 11.10 64-bit as stated in the subject line. The card is ATI Radeon HD5450 the error message I got when running it "outside Jockey" complained about not finding a directory, I am afraid I forgot exactly what but it had to do with 64-bit somehow. Do not want to do it again unless someone can say the managed as it was a bit of a headache to reverse. Best Sinclair From kaj at haulrich.net Mon Dec 5 13:34:12 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:34:12 +0100 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <3531314.kGNPLeWxsl@tanghus> References: <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> <3531314.kGNPLeWxsl@tanghus> Message-ID: <4EDCC854.6050502@haulrich.net> On 12/05/2011 02:18 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Monday 05 December 2011 17:48 Zaki Akhmad wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: >>> If it's after login you could have a look at ~/.xsession-errors >>> It's usually very bloated and doesn't have timestamps so it will >>> probably be hard to find the reason. >> >> Yup, I could see the log now. >> >> I think it's from nepomuk or akonadi service. How to reconfigure these >> things? > > You could try to disable Nepomuk from System Settings/Desktop Search. If that > helps you should have narrowed it down enough to file a bug report on Nepomuk > imho. > Furthermore, you can prevent this Nepomuk thingy from starting in the first place by unchecking it in the System Settings --> Statup and Shutdown --> Service Manager --> Nepomuk Search Module. Caveat: This will keep nagging you about about Nepomuk not running, but only if you use kdepim (kmail, calendar etc.). Personally I always un-install those and use Thunderbird instead. That way you can bypass all Akonadi, Nepomuk and Soprano annoyances and get a lightning fast system. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From thomas at tanghus.net Mon Dec 5 14:49:23 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:49:23 +0100 Subject: kubuntu 11.10 amd64 and AMD Catalyst In-Reply-To: <4EDCC79F.9030202@gmail.com> References: <4EDCA38E.8020402@gmail.com> <4EDCB239.6040301@alvin.be> <4EDCC79F.9030202@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1499787.8UQkuiIsmZ@tanghus> On Monday 05 December 2011 15:31 O. Sinclair wrote: > On 05/12/11 13:59, Alvin wrote: > > On 05/12/2011 11:57, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> I have tried and failed to install the proprietary driver for my ATI > >> card. > >> > >> Whether I use the "jockey" or install from the repos or if I download > >> from AMD site I still fail. > >> > >> Anyone has had any luck and can point me in the right direction? > > > > It would be useful to know: > > - Your Kubuntu version > > - Your card model > > - The failure message. > > the kubuntu version is 11.10 64-bit as stated in the subject line. > The card is ATI Radeon HD5450 > the error message I got when running it "outside Jockey" complained > about not finding a directory, I am afraid I forgot exactly what but it > had to do with 64-bit somehow. > > Do not want to do it again unless someone can say the managed as it was > a bit of a headache to reverse. I had it running installed through Jockey with an ATI Radeon HD5450 Mobility so it should be possible. That was 11.04 though and I don't remember if I did anything special. My best advice is: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Ubuntu+11.10+jockey+ATI+Radeon+HD5450 -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 03:04:02 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:04:02 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <4EDCC854.6050502@haulrich.net> References: <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> <3531314.kGNPLeWxsl@tanghus> <4EDCC854.6050502@haulrich.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Furthermore, you can prevent this Nepomuk thingy from starting in the first > place by unchecking it in the System Settings --> Statup and Shutdown --> > Service Manager --> Nepomuk Search Module. > > Caveat: This will keep nagging you about about Nepomuk not running, but only > if you use kdepim (kmail, calendar etc.). Personally I always un-install > those and use Thunderbird instead. That way you can bypass all Akonadi, > Nepomuk and Soprano annoyances and get a lightning fast system. How do I remove nepomuk? I tried to uninstall nepomuk library but many packages will be uninstalled root at zara:~# apt-get remove libnepomuk4 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libkdeclarative5 libqt4-dbg libkactivities5 libc6-dbg kdelibs5-dbg Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 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Need to get 10.7 MB of archives. After this operation, 405 MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort. Thanks! -- Zaki Akhmad From kaj at haulrich.net Tue Dec 6 06:35:46 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 07:35:46 +0100 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> <3531314.kGNPLeWxsl@tanghus> <4EDCC854.6050502@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <4EDDB7C2.5070908@haulrich.net> On 12/06/2011 04:04 AM, Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >> Furthermore, you can prevent this Nepomuk thingy from starting in the first >> place by unchecking it in the System Settings --> Statup and Shutdown --> >> Service Manager --> Nepomuk Search Module. >> >> Caveat: This will keep nagging you about about Nepomuk not running, but only >> if you use kdepim (kmail, calendar etc.). Personally I always un-install >> those and use Thunderbird instead. That way you can bypass all Akonadi, >> Nepomuk and Soprano annoyances and get a lightning fast system. > > How do I remove nepomuk? > > I tried to uninstall nepomuk library but many packages will be uninstalled Yes, you can not *remove* Nepomuk without removing the entire KDE. But if you do as described it will not run and accordingly do no harm. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From hakan at koseoglu.org Tue Dec 6 09:03:35 2011 From: hakan at koseoglu.org (Hakan Koseoglu) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:03:35 +0000 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <4EDDB7C2.5070908@haulrich.net> References: <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> <3531314.kGNPLeWxsl@tanghus> <4EDCC854.6050502@haulrich.net> <4EDDB7C2.5070908@haulrich.net> Message-ID: On 6 December 2011 06:35, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Yes, you can not *remove* Nepomuk without removing the entire KDE.  But if > you do as described it will not run and accordingly do no harm. Apart from popping messages "boohooo, I can't run" at every login... Falls into the category "wtf were they thinking"... From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Tue Dec 6 16:56:45 2011 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 08:56:45 -0800 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility Message-ID: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> Hello all, I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself is x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any caveats? Thanks, Jim Cunning From theuteck at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 17:22:56 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:22:56 -0600 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu bobcat apu" The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with 11.04 http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning wrote: > Hello all, > > I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD > A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself is > x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics compatibility. > I didn't see anything from Google to give me a clue. Anyone have > experience with this processor? 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URL: From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 03:44:23 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 10:44:23 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: <2558749.6eG8lsNKgB@allmine> <3421875.fknT1Z1AeA@tanghus> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > >> You could also try to create a new user account and see if login takes just as >> long time. If it does it could indicate that it's a system wide problem. > > Will try! I've tried added other user and this account login faster than the first account. What should I do to make the first account login faster? Thanks! -- Zaki Akhmad From stencil.sends at verizon.net Thu Dec 8 03:58:58 2011 From: stencil.sends at verizon.net (stencil) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 22:58:58 -0500 Subject: Handing off one IP address from wireless to LAN and back Message-ID: <6fd0e7hbs1mkdf9rbvb3ekvfhvc63u3144@4ax.com> Running Kubuntu Natty on an older (T42) IBM Thinkpad. Both the wired and the wireless interfaces are set to the same manual IP address. Most of the time the wireless mode is used but occasionally the cable connection is needed. Until recently everything went well, with the wireless (eth1) connecting automatically at startup and providing service via the wireless router to the Internet and to the two or three other machines on the local LAN. Then I changed the password on the wireless router and things fell apart. Now: -- at bootup it is necessary to provide the WEP password via a dialogue box labeled "Secret" that pops up as soon as the desktop stabilizes; and -- the router passes data through to and from the Internet (DSL/PPOE) but refuses to permit connection to the LAN until I send to eth0. The password demand is made despite the "Connect Automatically" box being checked in SystemSettings / NetworkConnections. The WEP-PSK key window is always blank -- it's not being saved, after I fill it in each time. Although displays data on both eth0 and eth1, /etc/network/interfaces shows entries only for the loopback and for eth0, the LAN interface -- nothing about the wireless. It appears that System Settings decided to do something creative with the networking configurations and startup scripts -- how can I track them down and restore them to default? Is there some kind of cheatsheet that tells which files are affected by SystemSettings / NetworkConnections? Googling leads me only to advice regarding /etc/network/interfaces, but various edits to the "auto ethX" and "iface ethX" stanzas have not been effective. Sigh. Backing up and re-installing around /home is not a good idea, unless I can be really sure that my problem doesn't lie inside /home/.kde or something similar. Your thoughts, please. gds, stencil From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 8 10:24:07 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:24:07 +0100 Subject: Handing off one IP address from wireless to LAN and back In-Reply-To: <6fd0e7hbs1mkdf9rbvb3ekvfhvc63u3144@4ax.com> References: <6fd0e7hbs1mkdf9rbvb3ekvfhvc63u3144@4ax.com> Message-ID: <201112081124.07730.kassube@gmx.net> stencil wrote: > Running Kubuntu Natty on an older (T42) IBM Thinkpad. Both > the wired and the wireless interfaces are set to the same > manual IP address. I don't know if this is the reason for your trouble, but I'd like to mention that an IP address is meant to identify an interface, not a machine. Using the same IP address for different interfaces is not necessarily a good idea. > Most of the time the wireless mode is used > but occasionally the cable connection is needed. Until > recently everything went well, with the wireless (eth1) > connecting automatically at startup and providing service via > the wireless router to the Internet and to the two or three > other machines on the local LAN. Then I changed the password > on the wireless router and things fell apart. Now: > > -- at bootup it is necessary to provide the WEP password > via a dialogue box labeled "Secret" that pops up as soon as > the desktop stabilizes; and [OT] Why do people still use WEP? WPA is around for ages and to use WEP is similar to using no encryption at all [1]. More seriously: I would move to WPA (or even better WPA2) unless you have very old hardware on your WLAN which doesn't support it. Then make sure that you don't have to enter the password after bootup to avoid the pop-up asking for the secret. Not sure how to do that ... > -- the router passes data through to and from the Internet > (DSL/PPOE) but refuses to permit connection to the LAN until > I send to eth0. See my first remark above. I suppose that you have two entries in the routing table and the system tries the use the non-working eth0 first. And your ifdown eth0 clears that routing table entry. > The password demand is made despite the "Connect > Automatically" box being checked in SystemSettings / > NetworkConnections. The WEP-PSK key window is always blank > -- it's not being saved, after I fill it in each time. I just played with the Kubuntu 11.04 livecd. SystemSettings / NetworkConnections seems to be a bit unreliable here. When I inserted the WLAN USB stick some time after startup, it didn't find any wireless network. Only after I used "sudo iwlist scan" on the commandline, it worked. Therefore I would suggest to remove the wireless entry and add a new entry for your network. Maybe the wireless password is then saved at the right location and you don't have to enter it every time you start the machine. > Although displays data on both eth0 and eth1, > /etc/network/interfaces shows entries only for the loopback > and for eth0, the LAN interface -- nothing about the > wireless. /etc/network/interfaces is used for manually managed interfaces only. If you make an entry here, that interface should be ignored by network- manager. > Googling leads me only to advice regarding > /etc/network/interfaces, but various edits to the "auto ethX" > and "iface ethX" stanzas have not been effective. Sigh. If you want to use /etc/network/interfaces instead of network-manager, the entry would be something like this: auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static # Configuration for WPA2 wpa-driver wext wpa-ssid SSID wpa-ap-scan 2 wpa-proto WPA2 wpa-pairwise CCMP wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK wpa-psk 28964ba6ea8b8f3a0db1c4414b327da253d0af5d4f4adccec0f8abf5b05b10f8 # wpa-psk from "wpa_passphrase SSID passphrase" address 192.168.2.100 network 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.2.255 gateway 192.168.2.1 I don't know the syntax for WEP, but it should be similar (google should know the details). Another option would be to use WICD instead of network-manager - and if you try it, don't forget to purge network-manager. Otherwise both network-manager and WICD fight to control the wireless interface and nothing works. Nils [1] From stencil.sends at verizon.net Thu Dec 8 16:54:13 2011 From: stencil.sends at verizon.net (stencil) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:54:13 -0500 Subject: Handing off one IP address from wireless to LAN and back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:30 +0000, Nils Kassube wrote in kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 9: >> [ ... ] I changed the password >> on the wireless router and things fell apart. Now: >> >> -- at bootup it is necessary to provide the WEP password >> via a dialogue box labeled "Secret" that pops up as soon as >> the desktop stabilizes; and > >[ ... ] make >sure that you don't have to enter the password after bootup to avoid the >pop-up asking for the secret. Not sure how to do that ... > Nor do I, which prompted the original post. I guess the key issue is that google will not yield to me a list of those files written into by Network Manager (or its emulators) and those files' default configurations, nor can I find a coherent description (scripts read, files written) of the startup sequence for the network interfaces. The WEP-PSA thing is a red herring; here in the rural (US) Berkshire hills, wardriving and the like are not a concern. The system of swapping one IP from cable to wireless worked satisfactorily, with auto login to the router, through three previous password changes, two of which were under the Maverick regime. > >Another option would be to use WICD instead of network-manager - and if >you try it, don't forget to purge network-manager. Otherwise both >network-manager and WICD fight to control the wireless interface and >nothing works. Sounds like the thing to do. I'll give it a lick this weekend. gds, stencil From theuteck at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 17:20:48 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 11:20:48 -0600 Subject: Handing off one IP address from wireless to LAN and back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would recommend you try using wicd in place of network-mangler. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:54 AM, stencil wrote: > On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:00:30 +0000, Nils Kassube > wrote in kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 9: > > >> [ ... ] I changed the password > >> on the wireless router and things fell apart. Now: > >> > >> -- at bootup it is necessary to provide the WEP password > >> via a dialogue box labeled "Secret" that pops up as soon as > >> the desktop stabilizes; and > > > >[ ... ] make > >sure that you don't have to enter the password after bootup to avoid the > >pop-up asking for the secret. Not sure how to do that ... > > > > Nor do I, which prompted the original post. I guess the key > issue is that google will not yield to me a list of those > files written into by Network Manager (or its emulators) and > those files' default configurations, nor can I find a > coherent description (scripts read, files written) of the > startup sequence for the network interfaces. > > The WEP-PSA thing is a red herring; here in the rural (US) > Berkshire hills, wardriving and the like are not a concern. > The system of swapping one IP from cable to wireless worked > satisfactorily, with auto login to the router, through three > previous password changes, two of which were under the > Maverick regime. > > > >Another option would be to use WICD instead of network-manager - and if > >you try it, don't forget to purge network-manager. Otherwise both > >network-manager and WICD fight to control the wireless interface and > >nothing works. > > Sounds like the thing to do. I'll give it a lick this > weekend. > > gds, stencil > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Fri Dec 9 01:04:38 2011 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:04:38 -0800 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub gives me the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I believe the system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for quite some time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never comes back after the initial grub screen. The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS is that the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in the remaining partition on the disk. I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as with install CDs. Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to get a video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? Thanks, Jim Cunning On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: > That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu > bobcat apu" > The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with 11.04 > http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning > wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD > A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself is > x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics compatibility. > I didn't see anything from Google to give me a clue. Anyone have > experience with this processor? Any caveats? > > Thanks, > Jim Cunning > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > -- > no .sig found > Please restart your browser. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theuteck at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 01:42:45 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:42:45 -0600 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' to grub and and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I boot into recovery mode I can still see the screen so I can make the edit, so hopefully that is the same for you. On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: > Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The > install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub gives me > the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" > > Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and > eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I believe the > system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I > select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for quite some > time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never > comes back after the initial grub screen. > > The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, > successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS is that > the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is > recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses > from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in the > remaining partition on the disk. > > I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as > with install CDs. > > Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to get a > video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? > > Thanks, > Jim Cunning > > On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: > > That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu > > bobcat apu" > > The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with 11.04 > > http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning > > > > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD > > A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself > > is > > x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics > > compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a > > clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any caveats? > > > > Thanks, > > Jim Cunning > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or > > unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From fatgerman at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 11:11:01 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 11:11:01 +0000 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> Message-ID: <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery mode and then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just fine. Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. If there are proprietary video drivers for your card, install them. It fixed the problem for me. Mark On 9 Dec 2011, at 01:42, theuteck at gmail.com wrote: > My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' to grub and > and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I boot into recovery > mode I can still see the screen so I can make the edit, so hopefully that is > the same for you. > > On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: >> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The >> install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub gives me >> the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" >> >> Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and >> eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I believe the >> system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I >> select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for quite some >> time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never >> comes back after the initial grub screen. >> >> The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, >> successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS is that >> the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is >> recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses >> from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in the >> remaining partition on the disk. >> >> I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as >> with install CDs. >> >> Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to get a >> video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? >> >> Thanks, >> Jim Cunning >> >> On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: >>> That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu >>> bobcat apu" >>> The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with 11.04 >>> http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning >> >>> > wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD >>> A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself >>> is >>> x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics >>> compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a >>> clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any caveats? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jim Cunning >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or >>> unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From thomas at tanghus.net Fri Dec 9 13:11:59 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:11:59 +0100 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10105300.pqRpX5OhQI@tanghus> On Friday 09 December 2011 11:11 Mark Greenwood wrote: > It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery mode and > then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just fine. > Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. Freakin' Plymouth again - nothing but trouble :-/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/556372 > If there are proprietary video drivers for your card, install them. It > fixed the problem for me. > > Mark > > On 9 Dec 2011, at 01:42, theuteck at gmail.com wrote: > > My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' to > > grub and and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I boot > > into recovery mode I can still see the screen so I can make the edit, > > so hopefully that is the same for you. > > > > On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: > >> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The > >> install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub gives > >> me > >> the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" > >> > >> Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and > >> eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I believe > >> the > >> system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I > >> select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for quite > >> some > >> time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never > >> comes back after the initial grub screen. > >> > >> The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, > >> successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS is > >> that > >> the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is > >> recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses > >> from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in the > >> remaining partition on the disk. > >> > >> I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as > >> with install CDs. > >> > >> Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to get > >> a > >> video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jim Cunning > >> > >> On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: > >>> That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu > >>> bobcat apu" > >>> The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with > >>> 11.04 > >>> http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 > >>> >>> 0> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning > >>> >>> > >>> > wrote: > >>> Hello all, > >>> > >>> I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an > >>> AMD > >>> A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU > >>> itself > >>> is > >>> x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics > >>> compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a > >>> clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any > >>> caveats? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Jim Cunning > >>> > >>> -- > >>> kubuntu-users mailing list > >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >>> Modify settings or > >>> unsubscribe at: > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From thomas at tanghus.net Fri Dec 9 13:19:27 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:19:27 +0100 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1690790.7bEAUEIDDp@tanghus> On Thursday 08 December 2011 10:44 Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Zaki Akhmad wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > >> You could also try to create a new user account and see if login takes > >> just as long time. If it does it could indicate that it's a system > >> wide problem.> > > Will try! > > I've tried added other user and this account login faster than the > first account. > > What should I do to make the first account login faster? Is Nepomuk disabled from System Settings/Desktop Search on both accounts? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From jon at radscan.com Fri Dec 9 13:19:53 2011 From: jon at radscan.com (Jon Trulson) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 06:19:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <10105300.pqRpX5OhQI@tanghus> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> <10105300.pqRpX5OhQI@tanghus> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Friday 09 December 2011 11:11 Mark Greenwood wrote: >> It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery mode and >> then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just fine. >> Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. > > Freakin' Plymouth again - nothing but trouble :-/ > Agreed. What's it's purpose anyway? [...] -- Jon Trulson "The truth points to itself." -- Kosh From fatgerman at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 13:57:18 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:57:18 +0000 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> <10105300.pqRpX5OhQI@tanghus> Message-ID: <9AD621B9-A6E4-4AFC-9ECA-E8D78559DC73@gmail.com> Plymouth is part of the boot-up sequence. Since Ubuntu became obsessed with boot-up speed, they switched away from the 'traditional' rc.d/init.d way of starting things on boot and began using upstart. I think plymouth is required because of this. The problem is caused by the way it displays its splash screen, hence if you boot into recovery mode and then just select 'continue normal boot' you avoid the splash screen and therefore avoid the problem. This isn't possible when you're installing from the graphical installer, so you need to add 'nomodeset' to the kernel command line. It could be argued that the problem is not plymouth directly, but rather the way some graphics cards work, or the way the kernel handles graphics mode setting. But since the cards that tend to give problems are ATI and NVIDIA, and these account for a large share of the market, it would seem sensible to make plymouth work in those cases and not regard them as 'problems that the manufacturers should fix'. On my NVIDIA systems, one works OK but the other has this issue - it can also depend on your monitor, something to do with the EDID. Once I'd got Kubuntu installed, I installed the NVIDIA proprietary driver. This forces plymouth to use a framebuffer for its splash screen, and this makes the problem go away. If this doesn't work for you then you'll need to add 'nomodeset' to the grub command line. Mark On 9 Dec 2011, at 13:19, Jon Trulson wrote: > On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, Thomas Olsen wrote: > >> On Friday 09 December 2011 11:11 Mark Greenwood wrote: >>> It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery mode and >>> then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just fine. >>> Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. >> >> Freakin' Plymouth again - nothing but trouble :-/ >> > > Agreed. > > What's it's purpose anyway? > > [...] > > -- > Jon Trulson > > "The truth points to itself." -- Kosh > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Dec 9 15:04:58 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 10:04:58 -0500 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <9AD621B9-A6E4-4AFC-9ECA-E8D78559DC73@gmail.com> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <9AD621B9-A6E4-4AFC-9ECA-E8D78559DC73@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8569560.FrWSyjXZmi@linux1> On Friday, December 09, 2011 13:57:18 Mark Greenwood wrote: > Once I'd got Kubuntu installed, I installed the NVIDIA proprietary driver. > This forces plymouth to use a framebuffer for its splash screen, and this > makes the problem go away. If this doesn't work for you then you'll need to > add 'nomodeset' to the grub command line. I started to install the proprietary NVidia drivers (290.10) but apt-get complained about removing a whole bunch of stuff.... I backed off. Did you have any problems with the install? (I would guess not) From theuteck at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 15:27:09 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 09:27:09 -0600 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <8569560.FrWSyjXZmi@linux1> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <9AD621B9-A6E4-4AFC-9ECA-E8D78559DC73@gmail.com> <8569560.FrWSyjXZmi@linux1> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday, December 09, 2011 13:57:18 Mark Greenwood wrote: > > Once I'd got Kubuntu installed, I installed the NVIDIA proprietary > driver. > > This forces plymouth to use a framebuffer for its splash screen, and this > > makes the problem go away. If this doesn't work for you then you'll need > to > > add 'nomodeset' to the grub command line. > > I started to install the proprietary NVidia drivers (290.10) but apt-get > complained about removing a whole bunch of stuff.... I backed off. Did > you > have any problems with the install? (I would guess not) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > For the AMD processor in the subject you need the AMD/ATI Radeon driver since it has AMD graphics baked into the CPU. -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 16:33:18 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. 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Evans wrote: > Following today's KDE updates, amarok seems to have completely forgotten > everything about my music collection (in particular, stuff like the rating > and the date that each song was last played). > > How do I restore this information to amarok? > > I have backups of the entire .kde hierarchy, having learned a while ago not > to trust KDE4 updates not to do horrible things. > normally, amarok stores this information in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok you can try replacing that directory from a backup. lately, i started using a mysql database to keep my data, just because of all these issues. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Evans" Sender: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 09:33:18 To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: amarok collection db -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Fri Dec 9 23:25:03 2011 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:25:03 -0800 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE298CF.2000600@cunning.ods.org> Top-posted, see bottom On 12/09/2011 03:11 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery mode and then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just fine. Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. > > If there are proprietary video drivers for your card, install them. It fixed the problem for me. > > Mark > > On 9 Dec 2011, at 01:42, theuteck at gmail.com wrote: > >> My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' to grub and >> and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I boot into recovery >> mode I can still see the screen so I can make the edit, so hopefully that is >> the same for you. >> >> On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: >>> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The >>> install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub gives me >>> the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" >>> >>> Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and >>> eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I believe the >>> system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I >>> select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for quite some >>> time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never >>> comes back after the initial grub screen. >>> >>> The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, >>> successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS is that >>> the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is >>> recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses >>> from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in the >>> remaining partition on the disk. >>> >>> I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as >>> with install CDs. >>> >>> Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to get a >>> video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jim Cunning >>> >>> On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: >>>> That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu >>>> bobcat apu" >>>> The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with 11.04 >>>> http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning >>> >>>> > wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD >>>> A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself >>>> is >>>> x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics >>>> compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a >>>> clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any caveats? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jim Cunning There is no "recovery mode" available from grub on the install CD/USB stick, no "nomodeset" was my only option, and it worked. I installed 11.10, but somehow Windows 7 screwed up the HDD grub, and I had to re-install grub from the live CD. OK, so far. Now the system (11.10) will boot as long as I put in "nomodeset", but X fails to start and I have only virtual consoles available. I downloaded the AMD ATI proprietary driver, which had successfully installed on 10.04 LTS, but it aborts when started from a virtual console. /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a lot of stuff (of course), but the error line near the end (EE) RADEON(0): Chipset: "SUMO2" (ChipID = 0x9644) requires KMS The entire Xorg.0.log file is available at http://cunning.ods.org/Xorg.0.log Jim From fatgerman at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 03:45:59 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:45:59 +0000 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <4EE298CF.2000600@cunning.ods.org> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> <4EE298CF.2000600@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: The ATI proprietary driver is called 'fglrx': [ 128.967] (II) LoadModule: "fglrx" [ 128.968] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx [ 128.968] (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx" [ 128.969] (II) Unloading fglrx [ 128.969] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) Your Xorg.log shows that the 'fglrx' driver doesn't exist - it hasn't been installed correctly. X tries to load it and fails so falls back to trying various other drivers (I think it ends up trying the radeon driver or framebuffer mode, I'm no expert in these things), but none of these drivers can handle it. So we need to get it installed properly. Unless you know how to install it from the command line (which I don't) then this means using the Additional Drivers tool.. but that needs X, so we need to get you into X. It's possible that 'nomodeset' may be confusing the various drivers. So we need to see if we can get you into X without using that option. If I take it as read that you can't just boot into X without using nomodeset, then this means bypassing the ****** plymouth splash screen. edit /etc/default/grub: Comment out (with a hash) the line that starts with 'GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT'. Uncomment the line GRUB_TIMEOUT and set a value, e.g. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10. Now run sudo update-grub, and reboot. When you do this you should see the grub menu at boot. This will allow you to select 'recovery mode'. Do this and then just select 'Continue normal boot'. This bypasses the plymouth splash screen. Try this with or without nomodeset - one way might get you into X from where you can install the ATI driver. Once done you'll again need to see whether you now need nomodeset to get the system to boot properly. The other way to bypass the splash is just to prevent plymouth ever using a splash screen - I haven't tried this myself but in /etc/default/grub you'll see the options 'quiet splash' on GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. You can remove these options, run sudo update-grub again and reboot and you'll get a good old-fashioned very messy looking linux boot up :) I went through all this on a recent NVIDIA system install, so I'll try to help all I can. Mark On 9 Dec 2011, at 23:25, Jim Cunning wrote: > Top-posted, see bottom > > On 12/09/2011 03:11 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery mode and then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just fine. Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. >> >> If there are proprietary video drivers for your card, install them. It fixed the problem for me. >> >> Mark >> >> On 9 Dec 2011, at 01:42, theuteck at gmail.com wrote: >> >>> My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' to grub and >>> and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I boot into recovery >>> mode I can still see the screen so I can make the edit, so hopefully that is >>> the same for you. >>> >>> On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: >>>> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The >>>> install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub gives me >>>> the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" >>>> >>>> Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and >>>> eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I believe the >>>> system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I >>>> select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for quite some >>>> time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never >>>> comes back after the initial grub screen. >>>> >>>> The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, >>>> successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS is that >>>> the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is >>>> recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses >>>> from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in the >>>> remaining partition on the disk. >>>> >>>> I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as >>>> with install CDs. >>>> >>>> Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to get a >>>> video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jim Cunning >>>> >>>> On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: >>>>> That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu >>>>> bobcat apu" >>>>> The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with 11.04 >>>>> http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning >>>> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD >>>>> A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself >>>>> is >>>>> x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics >>>>> compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a >>>>> clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any caveats? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jim Cunning > There is no "recovery mode" available from grub on the install CD/USB > stick, no "nomodeset" was my only option, and it worked. I installed > 11.10, but somehow Windows 7 screwed up the HDD grub, and I had to > re-install grub from the live CD. OK, so far. > > Now the system (11.10) will boot as long as I put in "nomodeset", but X > fails to start and I have only virtual consoles available. I downloaded > the AMD ATI proprietary driver, which had successfully installed on > 10.04 LTS, but it aborts when started from a virtual console. > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a lot of stuff (of course), but the error line > near the end > > (EE) RADEON(0): Chipset: "SUMO2" (ChipID = 0x9644) requires KMS > > The entire Xorg.0.log file is available at http://cunning.ods.org/Xorg.0.log > > Jim > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theuteck at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 04:18:08 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:18:08 -0600 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE298CF.2000600@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <2352732.B1a6vkkojS@allmine> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 03:45:59 AM Mark Greenwood wrote: > The ATI proprietary driver is called 'fglrx': > [ 128.967] (II) LoadModule: "fglrx" > [ 128.968] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx > [ 128.968] (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx" > [ 128.969] (II) Unloading fglrx > [ 128.969] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) > Your Xorg.log shows that the 'fglrx' driver doesn't exist - it hasn't been > installed correctly. X tries to load it and fails so falls back to trying > various other drivers (I think it ends up trying the radeon driver or > framebuffer mode, I'm no expert in these things), but none of these drivers > can handle it. So we need to get it installed properly. Unless you know how > to install it from the command line (which I don't) then this means using > the Additional Drivers tool.. but that needs X, so we need to get you into > X. > > It's possible that 'nomodeset' may be confusing the various drivers. So we > need to see if we can get you into X without using that option. If I take > it as read that you can't just boot into X without using nomodeset, then > this means bypassing the ****** plymouth splash screen. edit > /etc/default/grub: Comment out (with a hash) the line that starts with > 'GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT'. Uncomment the line GRUB_TIMEOUT and set a value, > e.g. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10. Now run sudo update-grub, and reboot. > When you do this you should see the grub menu at boot. This will allow you > to select 'recovery mode'. Do this and then just select 'Continue normal > boot'. This bypasses the plymouth splash screen. Try this with or without > nomodeset - one way might get you into X from where you can install the ATI > driver. Once done you'll again need to see whether you now need nomodeset > to get the system to boot properly. > > The other way to bypass the splash is just to prevent plymouth ever using a > splash screen - I haven't tried this myself but in /etc/default/grub you'll > see the options 'quiet splash' on GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. You can > remove these options, run sudo update-grub again and reboot and you'll get > a good old-fashioned very messy looking linux boot up :) > > I went through all this on a recent NVIDIA system install, so I'll try to > help all I can. > > Mark > > On 9 Dec 2011, at 23:25, Jim Cunning wrote: > > Top-posted, see bottom > > > > On 12/09/2011 03:11 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > >> It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery > >> mode and then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just > >> fine. Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. > >> > >> If there are proprietary video drivers for your card, install them. It > >> fixed the problem for me. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> On 9 Dec 2011, at 01:42, theuteck at gmail.com wrote: > >>> My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' > >>> to grub and and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I > >>> boot into recovery mode I can still see the screen so I can make > >>> the edit, so hopefully that is the same for you. > >>> > >>> On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: > >>>> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The > >>>> install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub > >>>> gives me the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for > >>>> defects" > >>>> > >>>> Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and > >>>> eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I > >>>> believe the system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive > >>>> activity. If I select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains > >>>> active for quite some time, confirming my suspicions. The > >>>> problem is that the video never comes back after the initial grub > >>>> screen. > >>>> > >>>> The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, > >>>> successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS > >>>> is that the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and > >>>> eth0 is recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives > >>>> the responses from the router. I know the LAN interface works > >>>> with Windows 7 in the remaining partition on the disk. > >>>> > >>>> I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results > >>>> as > >>>> with install CDs. > >>>> > >>>> Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to > >>>> get a video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Jim Cunning > >>>> > >>>> On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: > >>>>> That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for > >>>>> "ubuntu > >>>>> bobcat apu" > >>>>> The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with > >>>>> 11.04 > >>>>> http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&star > >>>>> t=100 > >>>>> >>>>> rt=100> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning > >>>>> >>>> > >>>>> > wrote: > >>>>> Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an > >>>>> AMD > >>>>> A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU > >>>>> itself > >>>>> is > >>>>> x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics > >>>>> compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me > >>>>> a > >>>>> clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any > >>>>> caveats? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Jim Cunning > > > > There is no "recovery mode" available from grub on the install CD/USB > > stick, no "nomodeset" was my only option, and it worked. I installed > > 11.10, but somehow Windows 7 screwed up the HDD grub, and I had to > > re-install grub from the live CD. OK, so far. > > > > Now the system (11.10) will boot as long as I put in "nomodeset", but X > > fails to start and I have only virtual consoles available. I downloaded > > the AMD ATI proprietary driver, which had successfully installed on > > 10.04 LTS, but it aborts when started from a virtual console. > > > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a lot of stuff (of course), but the error line > > near the end > > > > (EE) RADEON(0): Chipset: "SUMO2" (ChipID = 0x9644) requires KMS > > > > The entire Xorg.0.log file is available at > > http://cunning.ods.org/Xorg.0.log > > > > Jim I have seen on some of my test boxes that when I bypass plymouth that way, X does not start automatically, but if I login and restart GDM/KDM, X starts. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 06:34:06 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:34:06 +0200 Subject: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> <4EE298CF.2000600@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: <4EE2FD5E.6040908@gmail.com> On 10/12/11 05:45, Mark Greenwood wrote: > The ATI proprietary driver is called 'fglrx': > > [ 128.967] (II) LoadModule: "fglrx" > [ 128.968] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx > [ 128.968] (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx" > [ 128.969] (II) Unloading fglrx > [ 128.969] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) > > Your Xorg.log shows that the 'fglrx' driver doesn't exist - it hasn't > been installed correctly. X tries to load it and fails so falls back to > trying various other drivers (I think it ends up trying the radeon > driver or framebuffer mode, I'm no expert in these things), but none of > these drivers can handle it. So we need to get it installed properly. > Unless you know how to install it from the command line (which I don't) > then this means using the Additional Drivers tool.. but that needs X, so > we need to get you into X. > > It's possible that 'nomodeset' may be confusing the various drivers. So > we need to see if we can get you into X without using that option. If I > take it as read that you can't just boot into X without using nomodeset, > then this means bypassing the ****** plymouth splash screen. > edit /etc/default/grub: Comment out (with a hash) the line that starts > with 'GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT'. Uncomment the line GRUB_TIMEOUT and set a > value, e.g. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10. > Now run sudo update-grub, and reboot. > When you do this you should see the grub menu at boot. This will allow > you to select 'recovery mode'. Do this and then just select 'Continue > normal boot'. This bypasses the plymouth splash screen. > Try this with or without nomodeset - one way might get you into X from > where you can install the ATI driver. Once done you'll again need to see > whether you now need nomodeset to get the system to boot properly. > > The other way to bypass the splash is just to prevent plymouth ever > using a splash screen - I haven't tried this myself but in > /etc/default/grub you'll see the options 'quiet splash' on > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. You can remove these options, run sudo > update-grub again and reboot and you'll get a good old-fashioned very > messy looking linux boot up :) > > I went through all this on a recent NVIDIA system install, so I'll try > to help all I can. > > Mark > > > > On 9 Dec 2011, at 23:25, Jim Cunning wrote: > >> Top-posted, see bottom >> >> On 12/09/2011 03:11 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>> It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery >>> mode and then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just >>> fine. Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. >>> >>> If there are proprietary video drivers for your card, install them. >>> It fixed the problem for me. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On 9 Dec 2011, at 01:42, theuteck at gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' to >>>> grub and >>>> and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I boot into >>>> recovery >>>> mode I can still see the screen so I can make the edit, so hopefully >>>> that is >>>> the same for you. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: >>>>> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The >>>>> install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub >>>>> gives me >>>>> the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" >>>>> >>>>> Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and >>>>> eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I believe the >>>>> system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I >>>>> select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for quite some >>>>> time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never >>>>> comes back after the initial grub screen. >>>>> >>>>> The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, >>>>> successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS is that >>>>> the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is >>>>> recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses >>>>> from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in the >>>>> remaining partition on the disk. >>>>> >>>>> I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as >>>>> with install CDs. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to >>>>> get a >>>>> video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jim Cunning >>>>> >>>>> On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: >>>>>> That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for "ubuntu >>>>>> bobcat apu" >>>>>> The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with 11.04 >>>>>> http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD >>>>>> A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself >>>>>> is >>>>>> x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics >>>>>> compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a >>>>>> clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any caveats? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Jim Cunning >> There is no "recovery mode" available from grub on the install CD/USB >> stick, no "nomodeset" was my only option, and it worked. I installed >> 11.10, but somehow Windows 7 screwed up the HDD grub, and I had to >> re-install grub from the live CD. OK, so far. >> >> Now the system (11.10) will boot as long as I put in "nomodeset", but X >> fails to start and I have only virtual consoles available. I downloaded >> the AMD ATI proprietary driver, which had successfully installed on >> 10.04 LTS, but it aborts when started from a virtual console. >> >> /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a lot of stuff (of course), but the error line >> near the end >> >> (EE) RADEON(0): Chipset: "SUMO2" (ChipID = 0x9644) requires KMS >> >> The entire Xorg.0.log file is available at >> http://cunning.ods.org/Xorg.0.log Just as a note in this discussion: on 11.10 64bit I am still to succeed in installing ATI proprietary drivers. Whether I use the version in the repos or download from ATI the installation somehow goes wrong. For now I have given up and use the foss drivers. This worked fine in 11.04 but there I used the 32bit PAE kernel. From web at 3dresearch.com Sat Dec 10 07:53:13 2011 From: web at 3dresearch.com (Janos Dohanics) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 02:53:13 -0500 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity Message-ID: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some seemingly simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward. One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the desktop. After some poking around I figured out that this can be accomplished by: - Switch to Application Launcher - Highlight Computer in the menu - Right click on Home/Trash - Add to desktop That was simple! Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday OS is FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the default there). Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash cans disappear. Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect, though. Did it again - nothing. Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home folders! Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on desktop #1 will add the items to desktop #2. What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on desktop #n to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure on desktop # [highest number] to get the effect on desktop #[lowest number]. My apologies for having been a bit sarcastic - if anything, I should learn more about KDE to get spared of frustration... Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive. For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3? For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then could be customized) or a set of sample config files? For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config - with a pointer to explanations? I very much appreciate the vast number of configuration options, still, those of us on the slower side, are a bit overwhelmed and lost... -- Janos Dohanics From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sat Dec 10 09:15:15 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:15:15 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> Message-ID: <4EE32323.7050705@drofle.co.uk> Janos Dohanics wrote: > > Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding > application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if > setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive. > > For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3? > > For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then could > be customized) or a set of sample config files? > > For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config - > with a pointer to explanations? > And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it with KDE4. Neil From thomas at tanghus.net Sat Dec 10 15:29:14 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:29:14 +0100 Subject: Dictionary plasmoid stopped working? Message-ID: <4941883.HskqJ1vY2X@tanghus> Is it just at my end that the Dictionary plasmoid has stopped working? Nothing happens whatever I enter in the input field. With my lousy vocabulary I'm heavily dependant on it. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Dec 10 15:41:05 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:05 +0000 Subject: Dictionary plasmoid stopped working? 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[ snipped 600-line rant about Glitzy Baroque Decadence Is Not Advanced Technology, It's Performance Art And It Sucks] gds, stencil From stencil.sends at verizon.net Sat Dec 10 17:03:18 2011 From: stencil.sends at verizon.net (stencil) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:03:18 -0500 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:00:31 +0000, in kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 13 Janos Dohanics wrote: >I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if >setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive. > >For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3? You have that option, which is to replace KDE4.x with KDE3.5. See Works for me, using LTS Natty. [ snipped 600-line rant about Glitzy Baroque Decadence Is Not Advanced Technology, It's Performance Art And It Sucks] gds, stencil From kaj at haulrich.net Sat Dec 10 18:36:26 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:36:26 +0100 Subject: Dictionary plasmoid stopped working? In-Reply-To: <201112101541.06365.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <4941883.HskqJ1vY2X@tanghus> <201112101541.06365.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <4EE3A6AA.5070004@haulrich.net> On 12/10/2011 04:41 PM, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Saturday 10 Dec 2011 15:29:14 Thomas Olsen wrote: >> Is it just at my end that the Dictionary plasmoid has stopped working? >> Nothing happens whatever I enter in the input field. >> With my lousy vocabulary I'm heavily dependant on it. > > It isn't just you, I added it to my desktop just now to try it and nothing > happened when I entered some text. > Same problem on 12.04 - so I guess it's an upstream issue. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat Dec 10 18:59:47 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:59:47 -0500 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE32323.7050705@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <4EE32323.7050705@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: > Janos Dohanics wrote: > > Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding > > application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if > > setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive. > > > > For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3? > > > > For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then > > could be customized) or a set of sample config files? > > > > For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config - > > with a pointer to explanations? > > And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on > each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it > with KDE4. > > Neil Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde folks who took it out. ;-) Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: Since we're all here, we must not be all there. -- Bob "Mountain" Beck From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Sat Dec 10 20:19:22 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 22:19:22 +0200 Subject: Dictionary plasmoid stopped working? In-Reply-To: <4EE3A6AA.5070004@haulrich.net> References: <4941883.HskqJ1vY2X@tanghus> <201112101541.06365.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <4EE3A6AA.5070004@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <4EE3BECA.4090401@whamra.com> On 10/12/11 20:36, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On 12/10/2011 04:41 PM, Mark Fraser wrote: >> On Saturday 10 Dec 2011 15:29:14 Thomas Olsen wrote: >>> Is it just at my end that the Dictionary plasmoid has stopped working? >>> Nothing happens whatever I enter in the input field. >>> With my lousy vocabulary I'm heavily dependant on it. >> >> It isn't just you, I added it to my desktop just now to try it and >> nothing >> happened when I entered some text. >> > Same problem on 12.04 - so I guess it's an upstream issue. > > Kaj Haulrich. the issue is not with KDE itself, but rather dict.org misbehaving. currently they have a database error, and i'm afraid i'm not aware of anyway of changing the plasmoid's default server. -- Waleed K. 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In-Reply-To: <4EE3BECA.4090401@whamra.com> References: <4941883.HskqJ1vY2X@tanghus> <4EE3A6AA.5070004@haulrich.net> <4EE3BECA.4090401@whamra.com> Message-ID: <7743402.IyD3U9BHhp@tanghus> On Saturday 10 December 2011 22:19 Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 10/12/11 20:36, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On 12/10/2011 04:41 PM, Mark Fraser wrote: > >> On Saturday 10 Dec 2011 15:29:14 Thomas Olsen wrote: > >>> Is it just at my end that the Dictionary plasmoid has stopped > >>> working? > >>> Nothing happens whatever I enter in the input field. > >>> With my lousy vocabulary I'm heavily dependant on it. > >> > >> It isn't just you, I added it to my desktop just now to try it and > >> nothing > >> happened when I entered some text. > > > > Same problem on 12.04 - so I guess it's an upstream issue. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > the issue is not with KDE itself, but rather dict.org misbehaving. > currently they have a database error, and i'm afraid i'm not aware of > anyway of changing the plasmoid's default server. Should have thought of that but wasn't even aware it was using dict.org. Let's hope they get it up and running again. There's a link to webmaster but they have probably already loads of mails coming in. Thanks for the info. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From kassube at gmx.net Sat Dec 10 22:21:32 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:21:32 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> Message-ID: <201112102321.32876.kassube@gmx.net> Janos Dohanics wrote: > While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some seemingly > simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward. > > One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the desktop. > > After some poking around I figured out that this can be accomplished > by: > > - Switch to Application Launcher > > - Highlight Computer in the menu > > - Right click on Home/Trash > > - Add to desktop > > That was simple! > > Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday OS is > FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the default > there). > > Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash cans > disappear. Obviously you also enabled the option "Different widgets for each desktop". If I don't enable that option the icons don't disappear. > Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect, > though. Did it again - nothing. > > Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home folders! > > Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on desktop > #1 will add the items to desktop #2. > > What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on desktop > #n to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure on desktop # > [highest number] to get the effect on desktop #[lowest number]. I can confirm that strange behaviour. It looks like a bug to me. I also tried it with a Kubuntu 12.04 daily live CD (from some time last week) with KDE 4.7.3 and it is still the same behaviour. Is it the same on your FreBSD system? Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sat Dec 10 22:45:32 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:45:32 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112102321.32876.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112102321.32876.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201112102345.32854.kassube@gmx.net> I wrote: > I can confirm that strange behaviour. It looks like a bug to me. I > also tried it with a Kubuntu 12.04 daily live CD (from some time > last week) with KDE 4.7.3 and it is still the same behaviour. Is it > the same on your FreBSD system? Actually there is no need to try on your FreBSD system. I just found this bugreport: Nils From web at 3dresearch.com Sun Dec 11 00:02:58 2011 From: web at 3dresearch.com (Janos Dohanics) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:02:58 -0500 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112102321.32876.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112102321.32876.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20111210190258.7f88fbad.web@3dresearch.com> On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:21:32 +0100 Nils Kassube wrote: > Janos Dohanics wrote: > > While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some > > seemingly simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward. > > > > One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the > > desktop. > > > > After some poking around I figured out that this can be accomplished > > by: > > > > - Switch to Application Launcher > > > > - Highlight Computer in the menu > > > > - Right click on Home/Trash > > > > - Add to desktop > > > > That was simple! > > > > Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday OS > > is FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the default > > there). > > > > Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash cans > > disappear. > > Obviously you also enabled the option "Different widgets for each > desktop". If I don't enable that option the icons don't disappear. I must have stumbled upon the "Different widgets for each desktop" option. Still, should you expect that your existing customization disappears after turning on this option? > > Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect, > > though. Did it again - nothing. > > > > Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home folders! > > > > Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on > > desktop > > #1 will add the items to desktop #2. > > > > What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on desktop > > #n to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure on desktop # > > [highest number] to get the effect on desktop #[lowest number]. > > I can confirm that strange behaviour. It looks like a bug to me. I > also tried it with a Kubuntu 12.04 daily live CD (from some time last > week) with KDE 4.7.3 and it is still the same behaviour. Is it the > same on your FreBSD system? Haven't tried it... -- Janos Dohanics From jcunning at cunning.ods.org Sun Dec 11 00:09:24 2011 From: jcunning at cunning.ods.org (Jim Cunning) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:09:24 -0800 Subject: [SOLVED] Re: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <4EE2FD5E.6040908@gmail.com> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> <4EE298CF.2000600@cunning.ods.org> <4EE2FD5E.6040908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE3F4B4.1050508@cunning.ods.org> On 12/09/2011 10:34 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 10/12/11 05:45, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> The ATI proprietary driver is called 'fglrx': >> >> [ 128.967] (II) LoadModule: "fglrx" >> [ 128.968] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fglrx >> [ 128.968] (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx" >> [ 128.969] (II) Unloading fglrx >> [ 128.969] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not >> exist, 0) >> >> Your Xorg.log shows that the 'fglrx' driver doesn't exist - it hasn't >> been installed correctly. X tries to load it and fails so falls back to >> trying various other drivers (I think it ends up trying the radeon >> driver or framebuffer mode, I'm no expert in these things), but none of >> these drivers can handle it. So we need to get it installed properly. >> Unless you know how to install it from the command line (which I don't) >> then this means using the Additional Drivers tool.. but that needs X, so >> we need to get you into X. >> >> It's possible that 'nomodeset' may be confusing the various drivers. So >> we need to see if we can get you into X without using that option. If I >> take it as read that you can't just boot into X without using nomodeset, >> then this means bypassing the ****** plymouth splash screen. >> edit /etc/default/grub: Comment out (with a hash) the line that starts >> with 'GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT'. Uncomment the line GRUB_TIMEOUT and set a >> value, e.g. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10. >> Now run sudo update-grub, and reboot. >> When you do this you should see the grub menu at boot. This will allow >> you to select 'recovery mode'. Do this and then just select 'Continue >> normal boot'. This bypasses the plymouth splash screen. >> Try this with or without nomodeset - one way might get you into X from >> where you can install the ATI driver. Once done you'll again need to see >> whether you now need nomodeset to get the system to boot properly. >> >> The other way to bypass the splash is just to prevent plymouth ever >> using a splash screen - I haven't tried this myself but in >> /etc/default/grub you'll see the options 'quiet splash' on >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. You can remove these options, run sudo >> update-grub again and reboot and you'll get a good old-fashioned very >> messy looking linux boot up :) >> >> I went through all this on a recent NVIDIA system install, so I'll try >> to help all I can. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> On 9 Dec 2011, at 23:25, Jim Cunning wrote: >> >>> Top-posted, see bottom >>> >>> On 12/09/2011 03:11 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>> It's plymouth. You'll probably find that if you boot into recovery >>>> mode and then just select 'continue normal boot', you'll boot up just >>>> fine. Otherwise 'nomodeset' is the way. >>>> >>>> If there are proprietary video drivers for your card, install them. >>>> It fixed the problem for me. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On 9 Dec 2011, at 01:42, theuteck at gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My Atom system does something similar. I have to pass 'nomodeset' to >>>>> grub and >>>>> and add it to /etc/default/grub to see the video. If I boot into >>>>> recovery >>>>> mode I can still see the screen so I can make the edit, so hopefully >>>>> that is >>>>> the same for you. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, December 08, 2011 05:04:38 PM Jim Cunning wrote: >>>>>> Update: I purchased the product and tried to install 11.04. The >>>>>> install CD first displays "error: prefix is not set", then grub >>>>>> gives me >>>>>> the choice of "Start Kubuntu" or "Check disc for defects" >>>>>> >>>>>> Regardless of which selection I choose, the screen goes blank, and >>>>>> eventually the monitor reports "No signal". Despite this, I >>>>>> believe the >>>>>> system is booting because I can hear and see CD drive activity. If I >>>>>> select "Check disc for defects" the drive remains active for >>>>>> quite some >>>>>> time, confirming my suspicions. The problem is that the video never >>>>>> comes back after the initial grub screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> The behavior is the same with 11.10, however 10.04 LTS does boot, >>>>>> successfully and install completely. The problem with 10.04 LTS >>>>>> is that >>>>>> the video is only 1280x1024 on a 1920x1080 monitor, and eth0 is >>>>>> recognized and sends DHCP requests, but never receives the responses >>>>>> from the router. I know the LAN interface works with Windows 7 in >>>>>> the >>>>>> remaining partition on the disk. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also tried installing from a USB stick and got the same results as >>>>>> with install CDs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone know what kind of grub/kernel boot parameters I can used to >>>>>> get a >>>>>> video display to continue a 11.04 or 11.10 install? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Jim Cunning >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/06/2011 09:22 AM, uteck wrote: >>>>>>> That is one of the new Bobcat or Llano chips., I Googled for >>>>>>> "ubuntu >>>>>>> bobcat apu" >>>>>>> The AMD forum has some good reviews of it working very well with >>>>>>> 11.04 >>>>>>> http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=532&t=138280&start=100 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Jim Cunning >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am looking at purchasing an Acer desktop computer with an AMD >>>>>>> A4-Series APU A4-3400(2.7Hz) processor. I assume the CPU itself >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> x86_64 compatible, but was wondering about the graphics >>>>>>> compatibility. I didn't see anything from Google to give me a >>>>>>> clue. Anyone have experience with this processor? Any caveats? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Jim Cunning >>> There is no "recovery mode" available from grub on the install CD/USB >>> stick, no "nomodeset" was my only option, and it worked. I installed >>> 11.10, but somehow Windows 7 screwed up the HDD grub, and I had to >>> re-install grub from the live CD. OK, so far. >>> >>> Now the system (11.10) will boot as long as I put in "nomodeset", but X >>> fails to start and I have only virtual consoles available. I downloaded >>> the AMD ATI proprietary driver, which had successfully installed on >>> 10.04 LTS, but it aborts when started from a virtual console. >>> >>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a lot of stuff (of course), but the error line >>> near the end >>> >>> (EE) RADEON(0): Chipset: "SUMO2" (ChipID = 0x9644) requires KMS >>> >>> The entire Xorg.0.log file is available at >>> http://cunning.ods.org/Xorg.0.log > Just as a note in this discussion: on 11.10 64bit I am still to > succeed in installing ATI proprietary drivers. Whether I use the > version in the repos or download from ATI the installation somehow > goes wrong. For now I have given up and use the foss drivers. This > worked fine in 11.04 but there I used the 32bit PAE kernel. > > I did figure out that fglrx was not installed, so I let the system boot to a virtual console, then entered sudo apt-get install fglrx and rebooted after the install, still using "nomodeset", and got a good KDE login screen and normal login. I then ran the AMD ATI driver install and rebooted again. Now the system boots normally and comes up with a splash screen and KDE login without "nomodeset" Thanks to all who responded with advice. Jim Cunning From fatgerman at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 00:58:28 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 00:58:28 +0000 Subject: [SOLVED] Re: AMD A4-Series APU A4-3400 compatibility In-Reply-To: <4EE3F4B4.1050508@cunning.ods.org> References: <4EDE494D.7010406@cunning.ods.org> <4EE15EA6.1050702@cunning.ods.org> <1454448.eQHvaEBRZm@allmine> <8DDAC741-B4ED-44A6-824A-7905812F7FCD@gmail.com> <4EE298CF.2000600@cunning.ods.org> <4EE2FD5E.6040908@gmail.com> <4EE3F4B4.1050508@cunning.ods.org> Message-ID: Hooray! Well done Jim, glad you got it sorted. Mark On 11 Dec 2011, at 00:09, Jim Cunning wrote: > I did figure out that fglrx was not installed, so I let the system boot > to a virtual console, then entered > > sudo apt-get install fglrx > > and rebooted after the install, still using "nomodeset", and got a good > KDE login screen and normal login. I then ran the AMD ATI driver > install and rebooted again. Now the system boots normally and comes up > with a splash screen and KDE login without "nomodeset" > > Thanks to all who responded with advice. > > Jim Cunning > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 11 08:41:32 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:41:32 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <20111210190258.7f88fbad.web@3dresearch.com> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112102321.32876.kassube@gmx.net> <20111210190258.7f88fbad.web@3dresearch.com> Message-ID: <201112110941.32146.kassube@gmx.net> Janos Dohanics wrote: > Nils Kassube wrote: > > Janos Dohanics wrote: > > > While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some > > > seemingly simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward. > > > > > > One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the > > > desktop. > > > > > > After some poking around I figured out that this can be > > > accomplished by: > > > > > > - Switch to Application Launcher > > > > > > - Highlight Computer in the menu > > > > > > - Right click on Home/Trash > > > > > > - Add to desktop > > > > > > That was simple! > > > > > > Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday > > > OS is FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the > > > default there). > > > > > > Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash > > > cans disappear. > > > > Obviously you also enabled the option "Different widgets for each > > desktop". If I don't enable that option the icons don't disappear. > > I must have stumbled upon the "Different widgets for each desktop" > option. Still, should you expect that your existing customization > disappears after turning on this option? Of course not, that's why I mentioned the bug report [1] in the other mail. I'd expect that either I'm asked on which desktop I want to have the current customization or to have that customization copied to all desktops. > > > Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect, > > > though. Did it again - nothing. > > > > > > Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home > > > folders! > > > > > > Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on > > > desktop > > > #1 will add the items to desktop #2. > > > > > > What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on > > > desktop #n to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure > > > on desktop # [highest number] to get the effect on desktop > > > #[lowest number]. Thinking about it again, it seems you found another bug. This behaviour isn't mentioned in the bug report although it might be related. Maybe you should add that info to the existing bug report or file a new one. Nils [1] From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Dec 11 08:53:13 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 08:53:13 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <4EE32323.7050705@drofle.co.uk> <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <4EE46F79.9080003@drofle.co.uk> On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: > >> Janos Dohanics wrote: >>> Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding >>> application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if >>> setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive. >>> >>> For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3? >>> >>> For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then >>> could be customized) or a set of sample config files? >>> >>> For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config - >>> with a pointer to explanations? >> >> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on >> each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it >> with KDE4. >> >> Neil > > Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been > restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde folks who took it > out. ;-) > > Cheers, Gene Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is 4.6.2!! Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there. Thanks Neil From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Dec 11 09:10:49 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:10:49 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <4EE32323.7050705@drofle.co.uk> <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <4EE47399.7000104@drofle.co.uk> gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: > >> Janos Dohanics wrote: >>> Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding >>> application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if >>> setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive. >>> >>> For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3? >>> >>> For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then >>> could be customized) or a set of sample config files? >>> >>> For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config - >>> with a pointer to explanations? >> >> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on >> each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it >> with KDE4. >> >> Neil > > Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been > restored after we threatened to tar& feather the kde folks who took it > out. ;-) > > Cheers, Gene As a further reply to this, I have Kubuntu v11.10 set up in VBox. I have just checked and that is using KDE 4.7.2. And I still can't find how to have different backgrounds on each desktop. That was so useful in KDE3. Still baffled Neil From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 09:24:06 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:24:06 +0200 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE47399.7000104@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <4EE32323.7050705@drofle.co.uk> <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4EE47399.7000104@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4EE476B6.5080907@gmail.com> On 11/12/11 11:10, Neil Winchurst wrote: > gene heskett wrote: >> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: >> >>> Janos Dohanics wrote: >>>> Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding >>>> application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if >>>> setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive. >>>> >>>> For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3? >>>> >>>> For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then >>>> could be customized) or a set of sample config files? >>>> >>>> For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config - >>>> with a pointer to explanations? >>> >>> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on >>> each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it >>> with KDE4. >>> >>> Neil >> >> Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been >> restored after we threatened to tar& feather the kde folks who took it >> out. ;-) >> >> Cheers, Gene > As a further reply to this, I have Kubuntu v11.10 set up in VBox. I have > just checked and that is using KDE 4.7.2. And I still can't find how to > have different backgrounds on each desktop. That was so useful in KDE3. > > Still baffled > > Neil > what do you mean by different backgrounds? I have different wallpapers on my 2 desktops... all I do/did was "unlock widgets", right-click on desktop, choose "desktop settings" and change to whatever wallpaper I like. I have also experimented with using "search and launch" on 2nd desktop and that also works. Best Sinclair From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 11 10:17:12 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:17:12 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE46F79.9080003@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4EE46F79.9080003@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote: > > On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: > >> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background > >> on each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't > >> cracked it with KDE4. > > Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function > > has been restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde > > folks who took it out. ;-) > Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is > 4.6.2!! > > Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there. It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled (even in 12.04). Nils From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Dec 11 11:25:05 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:25:05 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4EE46F79.9080003@drofle.co.uk> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE49311.30404@drofle.co.uk> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote: >>> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: >>>> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background >>>> on each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't >>>> cracked it with KDE4. > >>> Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function >>> has been restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde >>> folks who took it out. ;-) > >> Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is >> 4.6.2!! >> >> Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there. > > It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. > However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled > (even in 12.04). > > > Nils > As I understand it, that means that I can have different icons on each desktop, but it does not alter the colour of the background. What I am looking for is to have the same icons on every desktop but different background colours for each one. Neil From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Dec 11 11:34:44 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:34:44 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112101359.47741.gheskett@wdtv.com> <4EE46F79.9080003@drofle.co.uk> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE49554.2040204@drofle.co.uk> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote: >>> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: >>>> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background >>>> on each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't >>>> cracked it with KDE4. > >>> Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function >>> has been restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde >>> folks who took it out. ;-) > >> Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is >> 4.6.2!! >> >> Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there. > > It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. > However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled > (even in 12.04). > > > Nils > As I understand it this just means that I can have different icons on each desktop, not different backgrounds. Or am I wrong about that? With KDE3, if I right clicked on the desktop and chose to change the settings I saw a list of all the desktops so I could choose each one separately and set the background colour as wanted. Now, with KDE4, I don't see a list of the desktops, the only choice is 'Default desktop'. Anything I do here changes all desktops together. Or am I missing something? Neil From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 11 11:35:50 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 12:35:50 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE49311.30404@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE49311.30404@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112111235.50546.kassube@gmx.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: > > It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. > > However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" > > enabled (even in 12.04). > As I understand it, that means that I can have different icons on > each desktop, but it does not alter the colour of the background. It doesn't alter the background automatically but you can change the background for each desktop individually. > What I am looking for is to have the same icons on every desktop but > different background colours for each one. Granted, that would be nice, but it is not possible. Even in 12.04 I didn't find an option for that feature. So if you want different backgrounds you would have to put the icons on every single desktop manually. Nils From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Dec 11 11:44:55 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 11:44:55 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112111235.50546.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE49311.30404@drofle.co.uk> <201112111235.50546.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE497B7.6030600@drofle.co.uk> On 11/12/11 11:35, Nils Kassube wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. >>> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" >>> enabled (even in 12.04). > >> As I understand it, that means that I can have different icons on >> each desktop, but it does not alter the colour of the background. > > It doesn't alter the background automatically but you can change the > background for each desktop individually. > >> What I am looking for is to have the same icons on every desktop but >> different background colours for each one. > > Granted, that would be nice, but it is not possible. Even in 12.04 I > didn't find an option for that feature. So if you want different > backgrounds you would have to put the icons on every single desktop > manually. > > > Nils > That is what I thought. It was available in KDE3 and I found it useful to have different colours for the background of each desktop. Then I could see at a glance which one was in use. Since KDE4 this seems to have disappeared. I never understand why something that is working and useful can be removed. I can understand why something new may not be added because of the extra time and work needed. But here the work was already done. Oh well, never mind Neil From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 11 13:10:20 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:10:20 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE49554.2040204@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE49554.2040204@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: > > It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. > > However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" > > enabled (even in 12.04). > As I understand it this just means that I can have different icons on > each desktop, not different backgrounds. Or am I wrong about that? Yes. With "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled you can change the backgrounds for the desktops individually. If I understand it correctly, icons and backgrounds are handled the same way in KDE4. Therefore if you disable "Different widgets for each desktop", you don't get different backgrounds either. Of course that doesn't make much sense to a "normal" user like you and me who isn't familiar with the inner working of KDE4. :) > With KDE3, if I right clicked on the desktop and chose to change the > settings I saw a list of all the desktops so I could choose each one > separately and set the background colour as wanted. Now, with KDE4, I > don't see a list of the desktops, the only choice is 'Default > desktop'. Anything I do here changes all desktops together. Or am I > missing something? Did you first enable "Different widgets for each desktop" at the pager settings? Well, that's another point which doesn't make much sense to a normal user because I would have expected to also find the pager settings when I right-click on the desktop and select "Desktop settings". Anyway, I don't see something like "default desktop" here independent from the "different widgets" option. But if that option is enabled, I can change the background for the current desktop. Then I close the desktop settings window and switch to the next desktop. There I go to desktop settings again and I can change the background for this desktop, leaving the first unchanged. Nils From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Dec 11 21:20:47 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:20:47 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE49554.2040204@drofle.co.uk> <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE51EAF.9020806@drofle.co.uk> On 11/12/11 13:10, Nils Kassube wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. >>> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" >>> enabled (even in 12.04). > >> As I understand it this just means that I can have different icons on >> each desktop, not different backgrounds. Or am I wrong about that? > > Yes. With "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled you can change > the backgrounds for the desktops individually. If I understand it > correctly, icons and backgrounds are handled the same way in KDE4. > Therefore if you disable "Different widgets for each desktop", you don't > get different backgrounds either. Of course that doesn't make much sense > to a "normal" user like you and me who isn't familiar with the inner > working of KDE4. :) > I don't know where to find 'Different widgets for each desktop'. I don't remember ever seeing that. However I will go on searching. Regards Neil From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Dec 11 21:33:48 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:33:48 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE49554.2040204@drofle.co.uk> <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE521BC.3040307@drofle.co.uk> On 11/12/11 13:10, Nils Kassube wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. >>> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" >>> enabled (even in 12.04). > >> As I understand it this just means that I can have different icons on >> each desktop, not different backgrounds. Or am I wrong about that? > > Yes. With "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled you can change > the backgrounds for the desktops individually. If I understand it > correctly, icons and backgrounds are handled the same way in KDE4. > Therefore if you disable "Different widgets for each desktop", you don't > get different backgrounds either. Of course that doesn't make much sense > to a "normal" user like you and me who isn't familiar with the inner > working of KDE4. :) > OK. I have now found it, but it is no use to me. When I enabled it I expected the icons already set up to remain, like in KDE3, but they all disappeared. This would mean having to recreate all my icons on each desktop. Whose bright idea was that? As I have already said previously, why couldn't the developers leave things as they were? For me at least I consider the background for a desktop and the icons on it to be separate entities. When I add a new icon it doesn't affect the background. I expect the opposite to be the case too. I give up, Neil From kaj at haulrich.net Sun Dec 11 21:35:37 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:35:37 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE51EAF.9020806@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE49554.2040204@drofle.co.uk> <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE51EAF.9020806@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4EE52229.5020503@haulrich.net> On 12/11/2011 10:20 PM, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 11/12/11 13:10, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Neil Winchurst wrote: >>> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. >>>> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" >>>> enabled (even in 12.04). >> >>> As I understand it this just means that I can have different icons on >>> each desktop, not different backgrounds. Or am I wrong about that? >> >> Yes. With "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled you can change >> the backgrounds for the desktops individually. If I understand it >> correctly, icons and backgrounds are handled the same way in KDE4. >> Therefore if you disable "Different widgets for each desktop", you don't >> get different backgrounds either. Of course that doesn't make much sense >> to a "normal" user like you and me who isn't familiar with the inner >> working of KDE4. :) >> > I don't know where to find 'Different widgets for each desktop'. I don't > remember ever seeing that. However I will go on searching. Right-click the pager (virtual desktops) --> pager settings --> virtual desktops -->Different widgets for each desktop. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From fatgerman at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 21:38:59 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:38:59 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE521BC.3040307@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111117.12449.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE49554.2040204@drofle.co.uk> <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE521BC.3040307@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <26FD9D7A-5213-4E6A-B48E-D250D06D8AAD@gmail.com> On 11 Dec 2011, at 21:33, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 11/12/11 13:10, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Neil Winchurst wrote: >>> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier. >>>> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" >>>> enabled (even in 12.04). >> >>> As I understand it this just means that I can have different icons on >>> each desktop, not different backgrounds. Or am I wrong about that? >> >> Yes. With "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled you can change >> the backgrounds for the desktops individually. If I understand it >> correctly, icons and backgrounds are handled the same way in KDE4. >> Therefore if you disable "Different widgets for each desktop", you don't >> get different backgrounds either. Of course that doesn't make much sense >> to a "normal" user like you and me who isn't familiar with the inner >> working of KDE4. :) >> > OK. I have now found it, but it is no use to me. When I enabled it I > expected the icons already set up to remain, like in KDE3, but they all > disappeared. This would mean having to recreate all my icons on each > desktop. Whose bright idea was that? > > As I have already said previously, why couldn't the developers leave > things as they were? For me at least I consider the background for a > desktop and the icons on it to be separate entities. When I add a new > icon it doesn't affect the background. I expect the opposite to be the > case too. > > I give up, It's another case of not thinking it through and not testing it properly. Seems to be the way with many things KDE these days. We have a bewildering and overcomplicated array of things now - plasma desktop, multiple desktops, multiple activities, even multiple monitors. How anybody expected all that to come together and be intelligible by anybody is beyond me. It still doesn't make me want to use Gnome, but it's just TOO MUCH. Mark > > Neil > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From doc.evans at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 22:42:37 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:42:37 -0700 Subject: amarok collection db In-Reply-To: <4EE24442.3080605@whamra.com> References: <4EE2384E.5080605@gmail.com> <4EE24442.3080605@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4EE531DD.6010307@gmail.com> Waleed Hamra said the following at 12/09/2011 10:24 AM : > On 12/09/2011 06:33 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Following today's KDE updates, amarok seems to have completely forgotten >> everything about my music collection (in particular, stuff like the rating >> and the date that each song was last played). >> >> How do I restore this information to amarok? >> >> I have backups of the entire .kde hierarchy, having learned a while ago not >> to trust KDE4 updates not to do horrible things. >> > > normally, amarok stores this information in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok > you can try replacing that directory from a backup. I just did that. No dice... the updated amarok still doesn't seem to know anything about my collection. I guess that's at least consistent, since it didn't know about the collection following the upgrade, which I assume didn't actually change the database. Sometimes I feel like I'm an unwilling beta tester. Considering I have a very vanilla Kubuntu system (no PPAs at all), this kind of thing really shouldn't happen just because I applied an official update. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 06:38:15 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:38:15 +0200 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual Message-ID: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> for those who, like me, wonder why there is no manual or help when you press F1 or try to open the handbook in Kontact/KMail: install the kdepim-doc package (I think it was at least) and there it is. Kubuntu packagers - I am not sure it is a good idea to not have that installed by default... Sinclair From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 06:42:48 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:42:48 +0200 Subject: Nepomukindexer Message-ID: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> Has anyone else experienced that nepomukindexer grabs 25% of CPU - especially when it indexes pdf files? And can someone explain why it keeps reindexing files I have not touched "since forever"? Kindly Sinclair From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 06:52:56 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:52:56 +0200 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: I have the same issue. The CPU usahe is even more than 25%. Gk На 12.12.2011 08:44 "O. Sinclair" написа: > Has anyone else experienced that nepomukindexer grabs 25% of CPU - > especially when it indexes pdf files? > > And can someone explain why it keeps reindexing files I have not touched > "since forever"? > > Kindly > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 12 08:57:17 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:57:17 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE521BC.3040307@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE521BC.3040307@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112120957.17277.kassube@gmx.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > OK. I have now found it, but it is no use to me. When I enabled it I > expected the icons already set up to remain, like in KDE3, but they > all disappeared. That's right - wasn't that one of the points which created this thread in the first place? > This would mean having to recreate all my icons on > each desktop. Or recreate all icons only once in a folder view widget. To show how it might look like, I attached a picture of 4 desktops with different background which was actually made from 4 screen shots of the various desktops. First I enabled the "Different widgets for each desktop" option. Then I changed the background for each desktop to an individual color. Next I added a folder view widget to each desktop which all pointed to the same directory (~/Desktop). In the folder view of one of the desktops I created the icons and they were of course visible on all 4 desktops. > As I have already said previously, why couldn't the developers leave > things as they were? I think it's called "progress". Whether that kind of progress is good or bad is debatable and probably depends on personal preferences. Nils -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: desktop1-4.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 20991 bytes Desc: not available URL: From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Mon Dec 12 12:51:50 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:51:50 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112120957.17277.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112111410.20969.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE521BC.3040307@drofle.co.uk> <201112120957.17277.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE5F8E6.9030802@drofle.co.uk> On 12/12/11 08:57, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Or recreate all icons only once in a folder view widget. To show how it > might look like, I attached a picture of 4 desktops with different > background which was actually made from 4 screen shots of the various > desktops. > > First I enabled the "Different widgets for each desktop" option. Then I > changed the background for each desktop to an individual color. Next I > added a folder view widget to each desktop which all pointed to the same > directory (~/Desktop). In the folder view of one of the desktops I > created the icons and they were of course visible on all 4 desktops. > >> As I have already said previously, why couldn't the developers leave >> things as they were? > > I think it's called "progress". Whether that kind of progress is good or > bad is debatable and probably depends on personal preferences. > Thanks for the help, I will have a look at it. It still seems a long winded way to do something that was so easy in KDE3. On your last point, I fail to see how removing something that is working well can be called 'progress'. I thought progress meant either improving/correcting something that is not working quite right or adding something new. Oh well, press on Neil From theuteck at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 15:48:04 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:48:04 -0600 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: KDE gets so close to being awesome, but things like nepomuk just drag it down into a nigh gnomish nightmare. Once I disabled it from running my system became usable again. 2011/12/12 Georgi Kourtev : > I have the same issue. The CPU usahe is even more than 25%. > Gk > > На 12.12.2011 08:44 "O. Sinclair" написа: > >> Has anyone else experienced that nepomukindexer grabs 25% of CPU - >> especially when it indexes pdf files? >> >> And can someone explain why it keeps reindexing files I have not touched >> "since forever"? >> >> Kindly >> Sinclair >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From fatgerman at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 16:22:47 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:22:47 +0000 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 12 Dec 2011, at 06:42, O. Sinclair wrote: > Has anyone else experienced that nepomukindexer grabs 25% of CPU - especially when it indexes pdf files? Yeah, because it's crap :) > And can someone explain why it keeps reindexing files I have not touched "since forever"? See above :) Same reason it keeps reindexing files on my external disc even though I've told it not to. Are there any vacancies for paid software testers at Canonical? Because I'm fed up of doing it for free. Mark > > Kindly > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 12 17:13:29 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:13:29 -0500 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12732496.3QbgEOId7I@linux1> On Monday, December 12, 2011 09:48:04 uteck wrote: > KDE gets so close to being awesome, but things like nepomuk just drag > it down into a nigh gnomish nightmare. > Once I disabled it from running my system became usable again. > > 2011/12/12 Georgi Kourtev : +1 and add my vote to do away with akonadi From kaj at haulrich.net Mon Dec 12 17:25:21 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:25:21 +0100 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <12732496.3QbgEOId7I@linux1> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <12732496.3QbgEOId7I@linux1> Message-ID: <4EE63901.1010508@haulrich.net> On 12/12/2011 06:13 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, December 12, 2011 09:48:04 uteck wrote: >> KDE gets so close to being awesome, but things like nepomuk just drag >> it down into a nigh gnomish nightmare. >> Once I disabled it from running my system became usable again. >> >> 2011/12/12 Georgi Kourtev: > > +1 > > and add my vote to do away with akonadi > +2 and me too... -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From jonorland at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:22:39 2011 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:22:39 +0100 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2011/12/12 uteck : > KDE gets so close to being awesome, but things like nepomuk just drag > it down into a nigh gnomish nightmare. > Once I disabled it from running my system became usable again. > Sebastian Trüg has done a lot of work in Nepomuk recently and many high CPU bugs has been fixed. I don't know which version of KDE but some are in 4.7.*. So it's getting better. You can read his blog for more info http://trueg.wordpress.com/ / Jonas From fatgerman at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:36:16 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:36:16 +0000 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6D17BED8-9ECA-470E-8341-F373737C264D@gmail.com> On 12 Dec 2011, at 19:22, Jonas Norlander wrote: > 2011/12/12 uteck : >> KDE gets so close to being awesome, but things like nepomuk just drag >> it down into a nigh gnomish nightmare. >> Once I disabled it from running my system became usable again. >> > > Sebastian Trüg has done a lot of work in Nepomuk recently and many > high CPU bugs has been fixed. I don't know which version of KDE but > some are in 4.7.*. So it's getting better. You can read his blog for > more info http://trueg.wordpress.com/ > That's great and I'm glad somebody is looking at it, but from my point of view this is KDE 4.7.. the important part of that is SEVEN… we're coming up to what, 2 years and 7 major releases since KDE 4.0 and this stuff still doesn't work. Why is it even in there at all? Whoever's behind KDE needs to take a big deep breath and realise that people try to use their software as a part of their lives. Including components which aren't finished and don't work and are a nightmare to configure (akonadi has been this way since its first release) gives KDE 4 a VERY bad reputation. I still think the idea behind nepomuk and strigi is a good one, but the implementation of it is nowhere near ready for everyday use. It's annoying a lot of people and making many switch away from KDE. Perhaps they don't care, but I do. Mark > / Jonas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:56:01 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:56:01 -0700 Subject: amarok collection db In-Reply-To: <4EE531DD.6010307@gmail.com> References: <4EE2384E.5080605@gmail.com> <4EE24442.3080605@whamra.com> <4EE531DD.6010307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE65C51.1040508@gmail.com> D. R. Evans said the following at 12/11/2011 03:42 PM : >> normally, amarok stores this information in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok >> you can try replacing that directory from a backup. > > I just did that. No dice... the updated amarok still doesn't seem to know > anything about my collection. I guess that's at least consistent, since it > didn't know about the collection following the upgrade, which I assume > didn't actually change the database. > Does anyone else have any ideas? The idea of throwing away years of accumulated data isn't appealing unless there's no option. FWIW, if I simply put the old mysqle directory in place, while keeping the rest of ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok in its post-update form, then I get a bunch of error messages about the format of the database. So it looks (guessing here, but it seems reasonable) like they changed the format of the database, and presumably have some auto-update feature such that the first time you run the updated amarok it's supposed to update the format of the database (what could possibly go wrong?) but this failed on my system leaving me unable to access the accumulated information that used to work just fine before the update. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:56:00 2011 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:56:00 -0800 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <4EE63901.1010508@haulrich.net> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <12732496.3QbgEOId7I@linux1> <4EE63901.1010508@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <4EE65C50.1090000@gmail.com> Disabling these things doesn't seem good enough...bits still hang around. I've had decent success with this: $ sudo -i # cd / # for i in `find -iname '*akonadi*'`; do rm -rvf $i; done # for i in `find -iname '*nepomuk*'`; do rm -rvf $i; done # apt-get install libnepomukutils4 That last one is required and it will pull in libnepomukquery4a and libnepomuk4; without those, kdeinit will fail (that's what I observed on my 12.04 alpha 1 test PC, anyway). You'll also need to edit ~/.config/Trolltech.conf and remove all lines with references to "akonadi" and "nepomuk." Yes, this is truly a blunt way to get rid of something, it probably will cause update problems as time moves on, it might even kill your pets and rip a hole in space. Don't do it! Unless you're prepared to handle unknown consequences :) ______________ Steve Riley stvrly at gmail.com +1 (206) 412-1097 On 2011-12-12 09:25, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On 12/12/2011 06:13 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> On Monday, December 12, 2011 09:48:04 uteck wrote: >>> KDE gets so close to being awesome, but things like nepomuk just drag >>> it down into a nigh gnomish nightmare. >>> Once I disabled it from running my system became usable again. >>> >>> 2011/12/12 Georgi Kourtev: >> >> +1 >> >> and add my vote to do away with akonadi >> > +2 and me too... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:59:57 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:59:57 +0000 Subject: amarok collection db In-Reply-To: <4EE65C51.1040508@gmail.com> References: <4EE2384E.5080605@gmail.com> <4EE24442.3080605@whamra.com> <4EE531DD.6010307@gmail.com> <4EE65C51.1040508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69DC2FC0-04BB-46EC-9D1A-8BB8B88477BD@gmail.com> On 12 Dec 2011, at 19:56, D. R. Evans wrote: > D. R. Evans said the following at 12/11/2011 03:42 PM : > >>> normally, amarok stores this information in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok >>> you can try replacing that directory from a backup. >> >> I just did that. No dice... the updated amarok still doesn't seem to know >> anything about my collection. I guess that's at least consistent, since it >> didn't know about the collection following the upgrade, which I assume >> didn't actually change the database. >> > > Does anyone else have any ideas? The idea of throwing away years of > accumulated data isn't appealing unless there's no option. I suggest you try the amarok forums (on the amarok website, Google will find it) - the devs do read it. If that fails, a bug filed at bugs.kde.org might get you somewhere. Mark > > FWIW, if I simply put the old mysqle directory in place, while keeping the > rest of ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok in its post-update form, then I get a > bunch of error messages about the format of the database. > > So it looks (guessing here, but it seems reasonable) like they changed the > format of the database, and presumably have some auto-update feature such > that the first time you run the updated amarok it's supposed to update the > format of the database (what could possibly go wrong?) but this failed on > my system leaving me unable to access the accumulated information that used > to work just fine before the update. > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 20:05:45 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:05:45 +1100 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual In-Reply-To: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> Message-ID: O.Sinclair, how do I install kdepim-doc within K10.10 MM? ray On 12/12/11, O. Sinclair wrote: > for those who, like me, wonder why there is no manual or help when you > press F1 or try to open the handbook in Kontact/KMail: > install the kdepim-doc package (I think it was at least) and there it is. > > Kubuntu packagers - I am not sure it is a good idea to not have that > installed by default... > > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 12 20:11:16 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:11:16 +0100 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <4EE5F8E6.9030802@drofle.co.uk> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112120957.17277.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE5F8E6.9030802@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112122111.16803.kassube@gmx.net> Neil Winchurst wrote: > On your last point, I fail to see how removing something that is > working well can be called 'progress'. Well, IIRC, this is a major rewrite and the feature of different backgrounds for each desktop wasn't actually removed. Instead it wasn't implemented in the beginning of KDE4. Only after many people requested this feature it was implemented, but in a way which is unfortunately quite different to the KDE3 feature. Nils From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 12 20:15:04 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:15:04 -0500 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <6D17BED8-9ECA-470E-8341-F373737C264D@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <6D17BED8-9ECA-470E-8341-F373737C264D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8600106.xSLGF7nHOJ@linux1> On Monday, December 12, 2011 19:36:16 Mark Greenwood wrote: > That's great and I'm glad somebody is looking at it, but from my point of > view this is KDE 4.7.. the important part of that is SEVEN… we're coming up > to what, 2 years and 7 major releases since KDE 4.0 and this stuff still > doesn't work. Why is it even in there at all? > > Whoever's behind KDE needs to take a big deep breath and realise that people > try to use their software as a part of their lives. Including components > which aren't finished and don't work and are a nightmare to configure > (akonadi has been this way since its first release) gives KDE 4 a VERY bad > reputation. I still think the idea behind nepomuk and strigi is a good one, > but the implementation of it is nowhere near ready for everyday use. It's > annoying a lot of people and making many switch away from KDE. Perhaps they > don't care, but I do. > > Mark +1 (again) And add to this the disaster they call Kmail2. And why, almost 2 months after the release of 11.10, haven't they fix some of the bugs. 1) Find messages doesn't work, 2) fill-in of addresses doesn't work. From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Mon Dec 12 21:00:36 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:00:36 +0000 Subject: Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity In-Reply-To: <201112122111.16803.kassube@gmx.net> References: <20111210025313.5981aa6a.web@3dresearch.com> <201112120957.17277.kassube@gmx.net> <4EE5F8E6.9030802@drofle.co.uk> <201112122111.16803.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE66B74.2090709@drofle.co.uk> On 12/12/11 20:11, Nils Kassube wrote: > Neil Winchurst wrote: >> On your last point, I fail to see how removing something that is >> working well can be called 'progress'. > > Well, IIRC, this is a major rewrite and the feature of different > backgrounds for each desktop wasn't actually removed. Instead it wasn't > implemented in the beginning of KDE4. Only after many people requested > this feature it was implemented, but in a way which is unfortunately > quite different to the KDE3 feature. > > > Nils > OK. I accept that it was a rewrite so they had to decide what to include and what to leave out. But if, as you say, this was requested by many people why not implement it as it was originally. The current way of working it is so messy and long winded. Anyway, that is enough, I suggest. You have explained what to do now, and I am pretty sure that I won't be bothering. And one of the (many) things I like about Linux is that it is 'very customisable'!! Regards Neil From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 04:15:10 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:15:10 +0200 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual In-Reply-To: References: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE6D14E.8090408@gmail.com> On 12/12/11 22:05, ray burke wrote: > O.Sinclair, > > how do I install kdepim-doc within K10.10 MM? > > ray > > On 12/12/11, O. Sinclair wrote: >> for those who, like me, wonder why there is no manual or help when you >> press F1 or try to open the handbook in Kontact/KMail: >> install the kdepim-doc package (I think it was at least) and there it is. >> >> Kubuntu packagers - I am not sure it is a good idea to not have that >> installed by default... >> Ray, I am afraid I have no idea as my computer is on 11.10 and this is the first time I found out about this. Hope someone else reads this and can assist you. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 04:17:48 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:17:48 +0200 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <8600106.xSLGF7nHOJ@linux1> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <6D17BED8-9ECA-470E-8341-F373737C264D@gmail.com> <8600106.xSLGF7nHOJ@linux1> Message-ID: <4EE6D1EC.7010106@gmail.com> On 12/12/11 22:15, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, December 12, 2011 19:36:16 Mark Greenwood wrote: >> That's great and I'm glad somebody is looking at it, but from my point of >> view this is KDE 4.7.. the important part of that is SEVEN… we're coming up >> to what, 2 years and 7 major releases since KDE 4.0 and this stuff still >> doesn't work. Why is it even in there at all? >> >> Whoever's behind KDE needs to take a big deep breath and realise that people >> try to use their software as a part of their lives. Including components >> which aren't finished and don't work and are a nightmare to configure >> (akonadi has been this way since its first release) gives KDE 4 a VERY bad >> reputation. I still think the idea behind nepomuk and strigi is a good one, >> but the implementation of it is nowhere near ready for everyday use. It's >> annoying a lot of people and making many switch away from KDE. Perhaps they >> don't care, but I do. >> >> Mark > > +1 (again) > > And add to this the disaster they call Kmail2. And why, almost 2 months > after the release of 11.10, haven't they fix some of the bugs. 1) Find > messages doesn't work, 2) fill-in of addresses doesn't work. > both find/search messages and fill-in of addresses work for me, Kubuntu 11.10 and kdepim 4.7.3 Sinclair From rayburke30 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 04:19:52 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:52 +1100 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual In-Reply-To: <4EE6D14E.8090408@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> <4EE6D14E.8090408@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 12/12/11 22:05, ray burke wrote: >> >> O.Sinclair, >> >> how do I install kdepim-doc within K10.10 MM? >> >> ray >> >> On 12/12/11, O. Sinclair  wrote: >>> >>> for those who, like me, wonder why there is no manual or help when you >>> press F1 or try to open the handbook in Kontact/KMail: >>> install the kdepim-doc package (I think it was at least) and there it is. >>> >>> Kubuntu packagers - I am not sure it is a good idea to not have that >>> installed by default... >>> > Ray, I am afraid I have no idea as my computer is on 11.10 and this is the > first time I found out about this. Hope someone else reads this and can > assist you. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users O.Sinclair, OK thanks can anyone else help please? ray From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 13 07:57:50 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:57:50 +0100 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual In-Reply-To: References: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201112130857.50969.kassube@gmx.net> ray burke wrote: > how do I install kdepim-doc within K10.10 MM? From I would expect to find it with any package manager. Search for the package kdepim-doc and install from there. Another option would be the command sudo apt-get install kdepim-doc in a terminal (konsole). Nils From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 08:22:02 2011 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:22:02 +0100 Subject: alt-F2 too wide In-Reply-To: <4ED1111B.7060700@lyonlabs.org> References: <698369539.291655.1322320281481.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4ED1111B.7060700@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <4EE70B2A.50900@gmail.com> Il 26/11/2011 17:17, Glenn Holmer ha scritto: > On 11/26/2011 09:11 AM, Paul Kaplan wrote: >> Try moving the mouse over one of the edges. It should change to >> double-headed arrow which will allow click 'n drag the edge and change >> the size. >> Paul > > Doesn't work. I get the resize cursor, and I even get the move cursor, > and can move it away from the edges of the screen. I can resize it > vertically, but not horizontally. Very strange. This works for me. Kubuntu Oneiric 11.10 -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Tue Dec 13 11:34:24 2011 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:34:24 +0200 Subject: Which ppa for kde? Message-ID: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> Kubuntu 11.0 I'm having a few issues with KDE 4.7.2 and was thinking about adding the ppa for KDE 4.7.3 I don't want to mess up my system but would like the advantages of a more reliable KDE. Which ppa is recommended: Kubuntu Backports [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports] or Kubuntu Updates [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa]? TIA, Nigel From errol at tzora.co.il Tue Dec 13 12:15:12 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:15:12 +0200 Subject: sound with skype Message-ID: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 12:44:45 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:44:45 +0000 Subject: Which ppa for kde? In-Reply-To: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <7F1D8DAA-A817-48CE-A0B5-997D7E91F79E@gmail.com> The updates PPA currently has KDE 4.7.3. It's a staging PPA for packages that are intended to go into the main updates repo at some point. If you want to get the next KDE release right away this is the one to enable, but bear in mind you're basically beta-testing if you install from there. If you wait until the packages make it into main updates then there's a chance that a few bugs will have been fixed. The backports PPA is generally used for KDE point releases backported from the next Kubuntu release, so it's probably empty at the moment. Mark On 13 Dec 2011, at 11:34, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Kubuntu 11.0 > I'm having a few issues with KDE 4.7.2 and was thinking about adding the ppa for KDE 4.7.3 > I don't want to mess up my system but would like the advantages of a more reliable KDE. > > Which ppa is recommended: > Kubuntu Backports [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports] > or > Kubuntu Updates [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa]? > > TIA, > > Nigel > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From fatgerman at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 12:47:19 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:47:19 +0000 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: Is it just Skype? Can you record into another application (e.g. audacity)?. If not then you probably need to mess with the mixer (alsamixer) or KMix to select the correct audio input. Depending on your sound card there might be some alsa module options that need to be set. What computer is it? Mark On 13 Dec 2011, at 12:15, Errol Sapir wrote: > I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying to use Skype since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading to Oneiric the problem would be solved but that wasn't what happened. I cannot use the microphone in Skype. The loudspeakers work, i.e. I hear but cannot speak to anyone, not even does the test microphone work. On the same computer my dual-booted Windows 7 works flawlessly. > I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without it, added it again and tried many workarounds to no avail. Any solution will be appreciated. > TIA > Errol > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Tue Dec 13 13:01:06 2011 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:01:06 +0200 Subject: Which ppa for kde? In-Reply-To: <7F1D8DAA-A817-48CE-A0B5-997D7E91F79E@gmail.com> References: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> <7F1D8DAA-A817-48CE-A0B5-997D7E91F79E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE74C92.1020100@prayingforisrael.net> On 12/13/2011 02:44 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > The updates PPA currently has KDE 4.7.3. It's a staging PPA for packages that are intended to go into the main updates repo at some point. If you want to get the next KDE release right away this is the one to enable, but bear in mind you're basically beta-testing if you install from there. If you wait until the packages make it into main updates then there's a chance that a few bugs will have been fixed. > > The backports PPA is generally used for KDE point releases backported from the next Kubuntu release, so it's probably empty at the moment. > > Mark > It seems as if I'm already a beta tester :-( so it shouldn't be a problem adding the updates PPA and continuing to be a beta tester..... Nigel > On 13 Dec 2011, at 11:34, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> Kubuntu 11.0 >> I'm having a few issues with KDE 4.7.2 and was thinking about adding the ppa for KDE 4.7.3 >> I don't want to mess up my system but would like the advantages of a more reliable KDE. >> >> Which ppa is recommended: >> Kubuntu Backports [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports] >> or >> Kubuntu Updates [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa]? >> >> TIA, >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- PrayingForIsrael.net http://www.prayingforisrael.net/ nigel at prayingforisrael.net From china.listas at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 14:14:45 2011 From: china.listas at gmail.com (China) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:14:45 -0200 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <4EE6D1EC.7010106@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <6D17BED8-9ECA-470E-8341-F373737C264D@gmail.com> <8600106.xSLGF7nHOJ@linux1> <4EE6D1EC.7010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: I decide uninstall the KDE (plasma) desktop on my netbook. The akonadi and nepomuk causes battery poor life. Before this, I try uninstall only kdepim, but all kde are mn arked to uninstall. If one day on a future the kde team privide a clean and rational release, or a release WITHOUT nepomuk and akonadi, I become to use again! -- Sent from my Android Samsung Galaxy S2 Em 13/12/2011 02:19, "O. Sinclair" escreveu: > On 12/12/11 22:15, Bruce Marshall wrote: > >> On Monday, December 12, 2011 19:36:16 Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >>> That's great and I'm glad somebody is looking at it, but from my point of >>> view this is KDE 4.7.. the important part of that is SEVEN… we're coming >>> up >>> to what, 2 years and 7 major releases since KDE 4.0 and this stuff still >>> doesn't work. Why is it even in there at all? >>> >>> Whoever's behind KDE needs to take a big deep breath and realise that >>> people >>> try to use their software as a part of their lives. Including components >>> which aren't finished and don't work and are a nightmare to configure >>> (akonadi has been this way since its first release) gives KDE 4 a VERY >>> bad >>> reputation. I still think the idea behind nepomuk and strigi is a good >>> one, >>> but the implementation of it is nowhere near ready for everyday use. It's >>> annoying a lot of people and making many switch away from KDE. Perhaps >>> they >>> don't care, but I do. >>> >>> Mark >>> >> >> +1 (again) >> >> And add to this the disaster they call Kmail2. And why, almost 2 months >> after the release of 11.10, haven't they fix some of the bugs. 1) Find >> messages doesn't work, 2) fill-in of addresses doesn't work. >> >> > both find/search messages and fill-in of addresses work for me, Kubuntu > 11.10 and kdepim 4.7.3 > > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theuteck at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 14:17:28 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:17:28 -0600 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: Did you check the mic volume in kmix and alsamixer? My laptop mutes my volume when I reboot for some reason, so I suppose it possible that something similar is happening to your mic volume. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:47 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > Is it just Skype? Can you record into another application (e.g. audacity)?. > If not then you probably need to mess with the mixer (alsamixer) or KMix to > select the correct audio input. Depending on your sound card there might be > some alsa module options that need to be set. What computer is it? > > Mark > > On 13 Dec 2011, at 12:15, Errol Sapir wrote: > > I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying to use Skype > since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading to Oneiric the problem > would be solved but that wasn't what happened. I cannot use the microphone > in Skype. The loudspeakers work, i.e. I hear but cannot speak to anyone, not > even does the test microphone work. On the same computer my dual-booted > Windows 7 works flawlessly. > I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without it, added it > again and tried many workarounds to no avail. Any solution will be > appreciated. > TIA > Errol > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe > at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From errol at tzora.co.il Tue Dec 13 14:58:57 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:58:57 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From errol at tzora.co.il Tue Dec 13 15:12:21 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:12:21 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EE76B55.6000503@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Dec 13 15:50:59 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:50:59 -0500 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <4EE6D1EC.7010106@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <8600106.xSLGF7nHOJ@linux1> <4EE6D1EC.7010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7483563.jN8FCtREhL@linux1> On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 06:17:48 O. Sinclair wrote: > > And add to this the disaster they call Kmail2. And why, almost 2 > > months after the release of 11.10, haven't they fix some of the > > bugs. 1) Find messages doesn't work, 2) fill-in of addresses > > doesn't work. > > both find/search messages and fill-in of addresses work for me, Kubuntu > 11.10 and kdepim 4.7.3 Must be some connection problem with &(&^$ akonadi. I've googled it but a lot of people are having the problem with no solutions. From lahc2007 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 15:52:26 2011 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:52:26 -0500 Subject: Which ppa for kde? In-Reply-To: <4EE74C92.1020100@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> <7F1D8DAA-A817-48CE-A0B5-997D7E91F79E@gmail.com> <4EE74C92.1020100@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: There's nothing wrong with using your customers as unpaid beta testers... MS has been doing it for years! Sent from my Motorola Xoom Android tablet On Dec 13, 2011 8:03 AM, "Nigel Ridley" wrote: > On 12/13/2011 02:44 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > >> The updates PPA currently has KDE 4.7.3. It's a staging PPA for packages >> that are intended to go into the main updates repo at some point. If you >> want to get the next KDE release right away this is the one to enable, but >> bear in mind you're basically beta-testing if you install from there. If >> you wait until the packages make it into main updates then there's a chance >> that a few bugs will have been fixed. >> >> The backports PPA is generally used for KDE point releases backported >> from the next Kubuntu release, so it's probably empty at the moment. >> >> Mark >> >> > It seems as if I'm already a beta tester :-( so it shouldn't be a problem > adding the updates PPA and continuing to be a beta tester..... > > Nigel > > On 13 Dec 2011, at 11:34, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> >> Kubuntu 11.0 >>> I'm having a few issues with KDE 4.7.2 and was thinking about adding the >>> ppa for KDE 4.7.3 >>> I don't want to mess up my system but would like the advantages of a >>> more reliable KDE. >>> >>> Which ppa is recommended: >>> Kubuntu Backports [https://launchpad.net/~** >>> kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports >>> **] >>> or >>> Kubuntu Updates [https://launchpad.net/~**kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa >>> ]? >>> >>> TIA, >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >> >> >> > > -- > PrayingForIsrael.net > http://www.prayingforisrael.**net/ > nigel at prayingforisrael.net > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 16:24:01 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:24:01 +0200 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <7483563.jN8FCtREhL@linux1> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <8600106.xSLGF7nHOJ@linux1> <4EE6D1EC.7010106@gmail.com> <7483563.jN8FCtREhL@linux1> Message-ID: <4EE77C21.8010002@gmail.com> On 13/12/11 17:50, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 06:17:48 O. Sinclair wrote: >>> And add to this the disaster they call Kmail2. And why, almost 2 >>> months after the release of 11.10, haven't they fix some of the >>> bugs. 1) Find messages doesn't work, 2) fill-in of addresses >>> doesn't work. >> >> both find/search messages and fill-in of addresses work for me, Kubuntu >> 11.10 and kdepim 4.7.3 > > Must be some connection problem with&(&^$ akonadi. I've googled it but a > lot of people are having the problem with no solutions. > I suspect this has got to do with how your Contacts/Addressbook is configured. It took me a few attempts after upgrade to get it working. First of all I got the advice via a bug report to configure my Addressbook from within Kaddressbook or Kontact, NOT via KDE resources that apparently is not meant to be used in this context. It can also be done from Akonadi resources (if you have that in System Settings): create an Akonadi "Personal Contacts" pointing to your folder. I moved/imported mine to .local/share/contacts that I understand is "the new default" folder. Before that I dabbled with a vcard-based resource that also worked but had some odd behaviour... Hope I am making some sort of sense here... back up what you have first. Sinclair From girardhenri at free.fr Tue Dec 13 17:00:33 2011 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:00:33 +0100 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EE784B1.3040408@free.fr> Le 13/12/2011 13:15, Errol Sapir a écrit : > > I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying to use > Skype since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading to Oneiric the > problem would be solved but that wasn't what happened. I cannot use > the microphone in Skype. The loudspeakers work, i.e. I hear but cannot > speak to anyone, not even does the test microphone work. On the same > computer my dual-booted Windows 7 works flawlessly. > > I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without it, > added it again and tried many workarounds to no avail. Any solution > will be appreciated. > > TIA > > Errol > > > I had the same problem ... I lost of lot of time finding what it was ! I don't know if it the same for you, but in case : click on speaker icon then look on tab in for your micro and check it's on right option :) for me it was installed on front but I am using rear, changing front with rear everything went ok !!! I can tell you i spend a lot of time to find this out !!! But i had formerly a pc working with front so i checked and it was it ! So maybe you have the same problem ? regards Henri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Tue Dec 13 17:53:05 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (doug) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:53:05 -0500 Subject: Which ppa for kde? In-Reply-To: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4EE79101.4070902@optonline.net> On 12/13/2011 06:34 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Kubuntu 11.0 > I'm having a few issues with KDE 4.7.2 and was thinking about adding > the ppa for KDE 4.7.3 > I don't want to mess up my system but would like the advantages of a > more reliable KDE. > > Which ppa is recommended: > Kubuntu Backports [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports] > or > Kubuntu Updates [https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa]? > > TIA, > > Nigel > I have seen "ppa" used a lot in the last couple of weeks. What does it mean? --doug From fatgerman at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 18:11:49 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:11:49 +0000 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> On 13 Dec 2011, at 14:58, Errol Sapir wrote: > Mark I don't know if it's just skype. The only program I need a microphone for is Skype. To answer your hardware question. I have a Gigabit GA K8NF motherboard with everything OB except the monitor card which is a NVidia.I have a AMD 3500 CPU and 2 giga ram. Hope that info is useful. The most useful information would be to try recording with something else, like audacity. This will tell you if it's a Skype problem or if you just need to select an appropriate input in KMix. Mark > Errol > On 12/13/2011 02:47 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> >> Is it just Skype? Can you record into another application (e.g. audacity)?. If not then you probably need to mess with the mixer (alsamixer) or KMix to select the correct audio input. Depending on your sound card there might be some alsa module options that need to be set. What computer is it? >> >> Mark >> >> On 13 Dec 2011, at 12:15, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >>> I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying to use Skype since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading to Oneiric the problem would be solved but that wasn't what happened. I cannot use the microphone in Skype. The loudspeakers work, i.e. I hear but cannot speak to anyone, not even does the test microphone work. On the same computer my dual-booted Windows 7 works flawlessly. >>> I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without it, added it again and tried many workarounds to no avail. Any solution will be appreciated. >>> TIA >>> Errol >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Dec 13 19:01:30 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:01:30 -0500 Subject: Nepomukindexer In-Reply-To: <4EE77C21.8010002@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A268.1020008@gmail.com> <7483563.jN8FCtREhL@linux1> <4EE77C21.8010002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5716766.JFCDXpHKXh@linux1> On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 18:24:01 O. Sinclair wrote: > I suspect this has got to do with how your Contacts/Addressbook is > configured. It took me a few attempts after upgrade to get it working. > You're probably right. > First of all I got the advice via a bug report to configure my > Addressbook from within Kaddressbook or Kontact, NOT via KDE resources > that apparently is not meant to be used in this context. > Kaddress book doesn't seem to have much in the way of configuring. I had already set up .local- - - contacts with .vcf files... and when I use 'Select' on the 'TO' line in kmail2, I get the addresses and that part works. Just to auto-fill other than recent addresses. What is the format of the addresses in your contact directory? > It can also be done from Akonadi resources (if you have that in System > Settings): create an Akonadi "Personal Contacts" pointing to your > folder. I moved/imported mine to .local/share/contacts that I understand > is "the new default" folder. I did not have a 'Personal Contacts' resource and I added one and pointed it to the 'contacts' directory... and it is now ready. Kamil2 sees that directory and that's where I can 'select' addresses, but still no fill in. > > Before that I dabbled with a vcard-based resource that also worked but > had some odd behaviour... > So I'm wondering if my files are in the wrong format since they are .vcf files in the contact directory. > Hope I am making some sort of sense here... back up what you have firs From rayburke30 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 19:20:28 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 06:20:28 +1100 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual In-Reply-To: <201112130857.50969.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> <201112130857.50969.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > ray burke wrote: >> how do I install kdepim-doc within K10.10 MM? > > From > I would expect to find it with any package manager. Search for the > package kdepim-doc and install from there. Another option would be the > command > > sudo apt-get install kdepim-doc > > in a terminal (konsole). > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Nils, I will attempt to do the above and let you know how I go ray From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 13 20:19:31 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:19:31 +0100 Subject: Which ppa for kde? In-Reply-To: <4EE79101.4070902@optonline.net> References: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> <4EE79101.4070902@optonline.net> Message-ID: <201112132119.31944.kassube@gmx.net> doug wrote: > I have seen "ppa" used a lot in the last couple of weeks. What does > it mean? According to you should find the answer here: Nils From clay at claydoh.com Tue Dec 13 20:33:43 2011 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:33:43 -0500 Subject: Which ppa for kde? In-Reply-To: <201112132119.31944.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> <4EE79101.4070902@optonline.net> <201112132119.31944.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <2773329.SrfJDiVUHg@lark-latitude-d630> On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 09:19:31 PM Nils Kassube wrote: > doug wrote: > > I have seen "ppa" used a lot in the last couple of weeks. What does > > it mean? > > According to > > you should find the answer here: > > > Nils Actually, though that ppa does have 4.7.3, fresh packages are now in the - proposed repo (pre-release updates in your software sources config in the Updates tab). These are for further testing before they can be made available as an official update. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org http://emacdogsports.com From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Tue Dec 13 20:39:33 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (doug) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:39:33 -0500 Subject: Which ppa for kde? In-Reply-To: <201112132119.31944.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4EE73840.3050504@prayingforisrael.net> <4EE79101.4070902@optonline.net> <201112132119.31944.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4EE7B805.6020800@optonline.net> On 12/13/2011 03:19 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > doug wrote: >> I have seen "ppa" used a lot in the last couple of weeks. What does >> it mean? > According to > > you should find the answer here: > > > Nils > > > Thanx. --doug From errol at tzora.co.il Wed Dec 14 00:31:23 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 02:31:23 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 06:51:51 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:51:51 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <1690790.7bEAUEIDDp@tanghus> References: <1690790.7bEAUEIDDp@tanghus> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > Is Nepomuk disabled from System Settings/Desktop Search on both accounts? On the first account, which the login process took around 3 minutes, the Nepomuk is already disabled. The contrary, on the second account, which the Nepomuk is enabled, the login process took less than 1 minute. What happened here? -- Zaki Akhmad From thomas at tanghus.net Wed Dec 14 07:21:26 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:21:26 +0100 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: <1690790.7bEAUEIDDp@tanghus> Message-ID: <8655206.Cs80P7q2CS@tanghus> On Wednesday 14 December 2011 13:51 Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > Is Nepomuk disabled from System Settings/Desktop Search on both > > accounts? > > On the first account, which the login process took around 3 minutes, > the Nepomuk is already disabled. > The contrary, on the second account, which the Nepomuk is enabled, the > login process took less than 1 minute. > > What happened here? You've most likely established that it *isn't* Nepomuk that is the culprit ;-) Another guess: Have you looked in your autostart folders? That would be ~/.kde/env and ~/.kde/Autostart. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From fatgerman at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 09:07:46 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:07:46 +0000 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: The icon bounces because KMix is already running - it's the icon in the panel. If you click that icon you'll get a volume control. At the bottom should be a button you can click to open the mixer. From there you should be able to select which input to use for recording. Mark On 14 Dec 2011, at 00:31, Errol Sapir wrote: > mmmm. Getting no recording on audacity. > When I try to open kmix the icon bounces for a few seconds and then closes. I cannot open kmix. Tried re-installing & rebooting but no change. Looks like my problem is there. > I can control the speaker volume from the icon on the panel, but no kmix. > Now what? > Errol > > On 12/13/2011 08:11 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> >> On 13 Dec 2011, at 14:58, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >>> Mark I don't know if it's just skype. The only program I need a microphone for is Skype. To answer your hardware question. I have a Gigabit GA K8NF motherboard with everything OB except the monitor card which is a NVidia.I have a AMD 3500 CPU and 2 giga ram. Hope that info is useful. >> >> The most useful information would be to try recording with something else, like audacity. This will tell you if it's a Skype problem or if you just need to select an appropriate input in KMix. >> >> Mark >> >> >>> Errol >>> On 12/13/2011 02:47 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Is it just Skype? Can you record into another application (e.g. audacity)?. If not then you probably need to mess with the mixer (alsamixer) or KMix to select the correct audio input. Depending on your sound card there might be some alsa module options that need to be set. What computer is it? >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On 13 Dec 2011, at 12:15, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying to use Skype since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading to Oneiric the problem would be solved but that wasn't what happened. I cannot use the microphone in Skype. The loudspeakers work, i.e. I hear but cannot speak to anyone, not even does the test microphone work. On the same computer my dual-booted Windows 7 works flawlessly. >>>>> I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without it, added it again and tried many workarounds to no avail. Any solution will be appreciated. >>>>> TIA >>>>> Errol >>>>> -- >>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 16:59:02 2011 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas G. Roufs ) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:59:02 +0100 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual In-Reply-To: <201112130857.50969.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> <201112130857.50969.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201112141759.03178.BasRoufs@gmail.com> > > how do I install kdepim-doc within K10.10 MM? > e=maverick§ion=all> I would expect to find it with any package manager. > Search for the package kdepim-doc and install from there... Yesterday, I effectively managed to do so via the package manager "Synaptic". I simply searched there for kdepim-doc and installed it. And: for the first time in all those years I have been using KDE, the Kontact handbook does pop up :-). However, one question remains in this context. Via HELP, it is possible to change the "application language" of Kontact. However, the help texts remain in the previous language in such a case. The only way I have found so far to switch the help texts to another language is to adapt the overall system language. Respectfully yours, Bas. -- ==== Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht +31 30 785 20 40 +31 6 446 835 10 BasRoufs at gmail.com OS: Linux Kubuntu 11.04, kubuntu.org Websites in construction: * rainbowgathering.eu * basroufs.eu * viaconsensus.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rayburke30 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 20:01:47 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:01:47 +1100 Subject: Kontact/KMail help / manual In-Reply-To: <201112141759.03178.BasRoufs@gmail.com> References: <4EE5A157.1000002@gmail.com> <201112130857.50969.kassube@gmx.net> <201112141759.03178.BasRoufs@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bas, I will attempt to download as shows within my kpackagekit! ray On 12/15/11, Bas G. Roufs wrote: > > >> > how do I install kdepim-doc within K10.10 MM? > >> e=maverick§ion=all> I would expect to find it with any package >> manager. >> Search for the package kdepim-doc and install from there... > > Yesterday, I effectively managed to do so via the package manager > "Synaptic". > I simply searched there for kdepim-doc and installed it. And: for the first > time in all those years I have been using KDE, the Kontact handbook does pop > up :-). > > However, one question remains in this context. Via HELP, it is possible to > change the "application language" of Kontact. However, the help texts remain > in the previous language in such a case. The only way I have found so far to > switch the help texts to another language is to adapt the overall system > language. > > Respectfully yours, > Bas. > > > -- > ==== > Bas G. Roufs MA > Van 't Hoffstraat 1 > NL-3514 VT Utrecht > +31 30 785 20 40 > +31 6 446 835 10 > BasRoufs at gmail.com > OS: Linux Kubuntu 11.04, kubuntu.org > Websites in construction: > * rainbowgathering.eu > * basroufs.eu > * viaconsensus.nl > > > From swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 20:46:06 2011 From: swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com (Swapnil Bhartiya) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:46:06 +0100 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location Message-ID: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> Hi, I have recently started using KDE and have two questions which I will ask separately. I have been using Thunderbird and now want to try Kmail. In Thunderbird I can easily change the location of the folders to mails are saved in the desired partition and not home so that I can easily access it after format or from other OSes on the system. How do I change the location of the folder in Kmail? Swapnil Bhartiya From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Wed Dec 14 21:55:51 2011 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:55:51 +0000 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location In-Reply-To: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> References: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20111214215551.08952365.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:46:06 +0100 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: SB> I have recently started using KDE and have two questions which I SB> will ask separately. I have been using Thunderbird and now want to SB> try Kmail. In Thunderbird I can easily change the location of the SB> folders to mails are saved in the desired partition and not home so SB> that I can easily access it after format or from other OSes on the SB> system. How do I change the location of the folder in Kmail? The method I have used for folders likely to get too big for a limited-size home directory is to create the folder, then (while kmail is not running) move the directories to the other partition and create symlinks in ~/Mail. One word of warning if you are using Oneiric though: the version of kmail there is pretty flakey, on my home machine I was forced to switch to Thunderbird because kmail kept losing messages, or deleted messages would reappear. (I've not tried 4.7.3 from -proposed to see if it's fixed). -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 23:18:37 2011 From: swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com (Swapnil Bhartiya) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:18:37 +0100 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location In-Reply-To: <20111214215551.08952365.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> References: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> <20111214215551.08952365.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4EE92ECD.6080009@gmail.com> On 12/14/2011 10:55 PM, James Tappin wrote: > The method I have used for folders likely to get too big for a > limited-size home directory is to create the folder, then (while kmail > is not running) move the directories to the other partition and create > symlinks in ~/Mail. How to create symlinks -- which directories to move? Swapnil From errol at tzora.co.il Thu Dec 15 04:15:47 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:15:47 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 06:11:27 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:11:27 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EE98F8F.5070901@gmail.com> On 15/12/11 06:15, Errol Sapir wrote: > Thanks Mark. I opened the kmix and am now starting to play with various > combinations of hardware and setting possibilities. Meanwhile to no > avail. The sound can be heard but no microphone. Will continue to > experiment and report but my feeling is that the whole configuration is > wrong. Maybe "pulseaudio server (local)" which is the only option I have > in skype for sound isn't correct. I don't know. > Errol > > On 12/14/2011 11:07 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> The icon bounces because KMix is already running - it's the icon in >> the panel. If you click that icon you'll get a volume control. At the >> bottom should be a button you can click to open the mixer. From there >> you should be able to select which input to use for recording. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On 14 Dec 2011, at 00:31, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >>> mmmm. Getting no recording on audacity. >>> When I try to open kmix the icon bounces for a few seconds and then >>> closes. I cannot open kmix. Tried re-installing & rebooting but no >>> change. Looks like my problem is there. >>> I can control the speaker volume from the icon on the panel, but no kmix. >>> Now what? >>> Errol >>> >>> On 12/13/2011 08:11 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>> >>>> On 13 Dec 2011, at 14:58, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mark I don't know if it's just skype. The only program I need a >>>>> microphone for is Skype. To answer your hardware question. I have a >>>>> Gigabit GA K8NF motherboard with everything OB except the monitor >>>>> card which is a NVidia.I have a AMD 3500 CPU and 2 giga ram. Hope >>>>> that info is useful. >>>> >>>> The most useful information would be to try recording with something >>>> else, like audacity. This will tell you if it's a Skype problem or >>>> if you just need to select an appropriate input in KMix. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>>> Errol >>>>> On 12/13/2011 02:47 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it just Skype? Can you record into another application (e.g. >>>>>> audacity)?. If not then you probably need to mess with the mixer >>>>>> (alsamixer) or KMix to select the correct audio input. Depending >>>>>> on your sound card there might be some alsa module options that >>>>>> need to be set. What computer is it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Dec 2011, at 12:15, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying >>>>>>> to use Skype since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading to >>>>>>> Oneiric the problem would be solved but that wasn't what >>>>>>> happened. I cannot use the microphone in Skype. The loudspeakers >>>>>>> work, i.e. I hear but cannot speak to anyone, not even does the >>>>>>> test microphone work. On the same computer my dual-booted Windows >>>>>>> 7 works flawlessly. >>>>>>> I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without >>>>>>> it, added it again and tried many workarounds to no avail. Any >>>>>>> solution will be appreciated. >>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>> Errol >>>>>>> -- Have you checked in System Settings - Multimedia - Phonon to make sure your hardware is "enabled" the correct chosen, especially (needless to say) for the microphone input? From gilgib1 at verizon.net Thu Dec 15 13:12:44 2011 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gil Gibbons) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 08:12:44 -0500 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> Hi Errol, I use Skype with a Logitech 9000 usb web cam and under Multimedia setting Phonon audio recording, Recording, I changed the audio recording preference from Internal audio to QuickCam Pro 9000 and Audio is working. Gil On 12/14/2011 11:15 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: > Thanks Mark. I opened the kmix and am now starting to play with > various combinations of hardware and setting possibilities. Meanwhile > to no avail. The sound can be heard but no microphone. Will continue > to experiment and report but my feeling is that the whole > configuration is wrong. Maybe "pulseaudio server (local)" which is the > only option I have in skype for sound isn't correct. I don't know. > Errol > > On 12/14/2011 11:07 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> The icon bounces because KMix is already running - it's the icon in >> the panel. If you click that icon you'll get a volume control. At the >> bottom should be a button you can click to open the mixer. From there >> you should be able to select which input to use for recording. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On 14 Dec 2011, at 00:31, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >>> mmmm. Getting no recording on audacity. >>> When I try to open kmix the icon bounces for a few seconds and then >>> closes. I cannot open kmix. Tried re-installing & rebooting but no >>> change. Looks like my problem is there. >>> I can control the speaker volume from the icon on the panel, but no >>> kmix. >>> Now what? >>> Errol >>> >>> On 12/13/2011 08:11 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>> >>>> On 13 Dec 2011, at 14:58, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mark I don't know if it's just skype. The only program I need a >>>>> microphone for is Skype. To answer your hardware question. I have >>>>> a Gigabit GA K8NF motherboard with everything OB except the >>>>> monitor card which is a NVidia.I have a AMD 3500 CPU and 2 giga >>>>> ram. Hope that info is useful. >>>> >>>> The most useful information would be to try recording with >>>> something else, like audacity. This will tell you if it's a Skype >>>> problem or if you just need to select an appropriate input in KMix. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>>> Errol >>>>> On 12/13/2011 02:47 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it just Skype? Can you record into another application (e.g. >>>>>> audacity)?. If not then you probably need to mess with the mixer >>>>>> (alsamixer) or KMix to select the correct audio input. Depending >>>>>> on your sound card there might be some alsa module options that >>>>>> need to be set. What computer is it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Dec 2011, at 12:15, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying >>>>>>> to use Skype since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading >>>>>>> to Oneiric the problem would be solved but that wasn't what >>>>>>> happened. I cannot use the microphone in Skype. The loudspeakers >>>>>>> work, i.e. I hear but cannot speak to anyone, not even does the >>>>>>> test microphone work. On the same computer my dual-booted >>>>>>> Windows 7 works flawlessly. >>>>>>> I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without >>>>>>> it, added it again and tried many workarounds to no avail. Any >>>>>>> solution will be appreciated. >>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>> Errol >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe >>>>>>> at:https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Thu Dec 15 15:25:26 2011 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 15:25:26 +0000 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location In-Reply-To: <4EE92ECD.6080009@gmail.com> References: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> <20111214215551.08952365.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <4EE92ECD.6080009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20111215152526.3c830e9e.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:18:37 +0100 Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: SB> On 12/14/2011 10:55 PM, James Tappin wrote: SB> > The method I have used for folders likely to get too big for a SB> > limited-size home directory is to create the folder, then (while kmail SB> > is not running) move the directories to the other partition and create SB> > symlinks in ~/Mail. SB> How to create symlinks -- which directories to move? SB> Swapnil SB> If your folder is called "Shared" (say) and you want to relocate it to /data then: 1) cd ~/Mail 2) mv Shared /data 3) ln -s /data/Shared . [If there are subfolders then you will also need: 4) mv .Shared.directory /data 5) ln -s /data/.Shared.directory . ] -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 20:25:51 2011 From: swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com (Swapnil Bhartiya) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:25:51 +0100 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location In-Reply-To: <20111215152526.3c830e9e.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> References: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> <20111214215551.08952365.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <4EE92ECD.6080009@gmail.com> <20111215152526.3c830e9e.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4EEA57CF.2050601@gmail.com> On 12/15/2011 04:25 PM, James Tappin wrote: > If your folder is called "Shared" (say) and you want to relocate it to /data then: > 1) cd ~/Mail > 2) mv Shared /data > 3) ln -s /data/Shared . > > [If there are subfolders then you will also need: > 4) mv .Shared.directory /data > 5) ln -s /data/.Shared.directory .] Thanks. But as I stated earlier I don't know where KDE saves the Kmail folder. From alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com Thu Dec 15 20:36:31 2011 From: alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com (Alex Gabriel) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:36:31 +0000 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location In-Reply-To: <4EEA57CF.2050601@gmail.com> References: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> <20111214215551.08952365.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <4EE92ECD.6080009@gmail.com> <20111215152526.3c830e9e.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <4EEA57CF.2050601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <188677108-1323981391-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1899332365-@b16.c8.bise6.blackberry> Look under .kde/apps/share, there's usually a directory called kmail. If you use KDE PIM, though you need the folder for each component. I.e. Kmail, Kontact, etc. Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: Swapnil Bhartiya Sender: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:25:51 To: Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Re: How To Change Kmail Folder Location On 12/15/2011 04:25 PM, James Tappin wrote: > If your folder is called "Shared" (say) and you want to relocate it to /data then: > 1) cd ~/Mail > 2) mv Shared /data > 3) ln -s /data/Shared . > > [If there are subfolders then you will also need: > 4) mv .Shared.directory /data > 5) ln -s /data/.Shared.directory .] Thanks. But as I stated earlier I don't know where KDE saves the Kmail folder. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com Thu Dec 15 20:37:48 2011 From: alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com (Alex Gabriel) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:37:48 +0000 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location In-Reply-To: <4EEA57CF.2050601@gmail.com> References: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> <20111214215551.08952365.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <4EE92ECD.6080009@gmail.com> <20111215152526.3c830e9e.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <4EEA57CF.2050601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2073584413-1323981468-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-984596569-@b16.c8.bise6.blackberry> You can run "find . -iname kmail" from your home directory to locate the exact location. Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network -----Original Message----- From: Swapnil Bhartiya Sender: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:25:51 To: Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Re: How To Change Kmail Folder Location On 12/15/2011 04:25 PM, James Tappin wrote: > If your folder is called "Shared" (say) and you want to relocate it to /data then: > 1) cd ~/Mail > 2) mv Shared /data > 3) ln -s /data/Shared . > > [If there are subfolders then you will also need: > 4) mv .Shared.directory /data > 5) ln -s /data/.Shared.directory .] Thanks. But as I stated earlier I don't know where KDE saves the Kmail folder. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From kassube at gmx.net Thu Dec 15 22:35:29 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 23:35:29 +0100 Subject: How To Change Kmail Folder Location In-Reply-To: <4EEA57CF.2050601@gmail.com> References: <4EE90B0E.6040301@gmail.com> <20111215152526.3c830e9e.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> <4EEA57CF.2050601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201112152335.29371.kassube@gmx.net> Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > Thanks. But as I stated earlier I don't know where KDE saves the > Kmail folder. I think you shouldn't look for the kmail folder but for the folder where Kmail saves the messages. AFAIK there is no option in the Kmail settings to change this folder. It depends on your Kubuntu (or KDE) version where your mails are stored. Some KDE3 versions used "/home/$USER/Mail/" and if you upgraded from such a version you may still be using that folder. However if you started with later KDE3 versions or KDE4 before Kubuntu 11.10 the default folder was "/home/$USER/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/". With 11.10 things have changed again and I think you can find your mail in "/home/$USER/.local/share/local-mail". Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 06:57:22 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:57:22 +0200 Subject: smb problems Message-ID: <4EEAEBD2.5090205@gmail.com> on Kubuntu 11.10 with all upgrades, including to KDE 4.7.4 suddenly smb browsing in a LAN with 2 windows 2003 servers is not working (I think after the 4.7.4 upgrade). I have/had 2 shares marked in Dolpin Places I would just click on and they would open, I have/had a printer on the server that I use. Suddenly printer is not working, had to change from shared printer smb://workgroup/server/sharename to smb://192.../sharename smb browsing the same, only by using ip number can I access shares on the servers. Anyone else seeing this, time to file a bug report and back to 4.7.3?? kindly Sinclair From lahc2007 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 08:06:20 2011 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:06:20 -0500 Subject: smb problems In-Reply-To: <4EEAEBD2.5090205@gmail.com> References: <4EEAEBD2.5090205@gmail.com> Message-ID: This sounds very similar to the problem I have from time to time using stock 11.10 Kubuntu. I have never gotten to the bottom of it, but find that connectivity can always be restored by shutting down and restarting the network. Winbindd never restarts automatically; it must be restarted manually from the command line as root. Sent from my Motorola Xoom Android tablet On Dec 16, 2011 1:59 AM, "O. Sinclair" wrote: > on Kubuntu 11.10 with all upgrades, including to KDE 4.7.4 > > suddenly smb browsing in a LAN with 2 windows 2003 servers is not working > (I think after the 4.7.4 upgrade). I have/had 2 shares marked in Dolpin > Places I would just click on and they would open, I have/had a printer on > the server that I use. > > Suddenly printer is not working, had to change from shared printer > smb://workgroup/server/**sharename to smb://192.../sharename > > smb browsing the same, only by using ip number can I access shares on the > servers. > > Anyone else seeing this, time to file a bug report and back to 4.7.3?? > > kindly > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 08:54:52 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:54:52 +0200 Subject: smb problems In-Reply-To: References: <4EEAEBD2.5090205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EEB075C.2020901@gmail.com> On 16/12/11 10:06, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > This sounds very similar to the problem I have from time to time using > stock 11.10 Kubuntu. I have never gotten to the bottom of it, but find > that connectivity can always be restored by shutting down and restarting > the network. Winbindd never restarts automatically; it must be restarted > manually from the command line as root. > How do you do the restart from command line? > Sent from my Motorola Xoom Android tablet > > On Dec 16, 2011 1:59 AM, "O. Sinclair" > wrote: > > on Kubuntu 11.10 with all upgrades, including to KDE 4.7.4 > > suddenly smb browsing in a LAN with 2 windows 2003 servers is not > working (I think after the 4.7.4 upgrade). I have/had 2 shares > marked in Dolpin Places I would just click on and they would open, I > have/had a printer on the server that I use. > > Suddenly printer is not working, had to change from shared printer > smb://workgroup/server/__sharename to smb://192.../sharename > > smb browsing the same, only by using ip number can I access shares > on the servers. > > Anyone else seeing this, time to file a bug report and back to 4.7.3?? > > kindly > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > From swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 09:38:35 2011 From: swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com (Swapnil Bhartiya) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:38:35 +0100 Subject: Arista not working Message-ID: <4EEB119B.10603@gmail.com> Hi, I am trying to transcode movies using Arista, but its not working. When I click on create conversion button, nothing happens. Swapnil From lahc2007 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 10:01:03 2011 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:01:03 -0500 Subject: smb problems Message-ID: I use gadmin-Samba to configure my network shares etc., and it lets me disconnect Samba. This its not the command line part, although I'm sure it can be done from that - I just don't know how. It used to be "sudo /etc/init.d samba restart" or something similar but that doesn't work now. When restarted in gadmin-Samba a message appears that winbindd is inactive. At that point I open a terminal window and type "sudo winbindd" which starts winbindd and then everything works. I wonder if there is some kind of time limitation bug in Samba that won't let it run continually... Sent from my Motorola Xoom Android tablet On Dec 16, 2011 3:56 AM, "O. Sinclair" wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tv.debian at googlemail.com Fri Dec 16 11:15:53 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:15:53 +0100 Subject: smb problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EEB2869.4010402@googlemail.com> 16/12/2011 11:01, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote: > I use gadmin-Samba to configure my network shares etc., and it lets me > disconnect Samba. This its not the command line part, although I'm sure > it can be done from that - I just don't know how. It used to be "sudo > /etc/init.d samba restart" or something similar but that doesn't work > now. When restarted in gadmin-Samba a message appears that winbindd is > inactive. At that point I open a terminal window and type "sudo > winbindd" which starts winbindd and then everything works. > > I wonder if there is some kind of time limitation bug in Samba that > won't let it run continually... > > Sent from my Motorola Xoom Android tablet > > On Dec 16, 2011 3:56 AM, "O. Sinclair" > wrote: > Shockingly simple: sudo restart [service] where [service] is to be replaced by the actual service you want to start/restart. Use double [tab] (tabulation) in place of [service] to see list of services that can be restarted this way. Substitute "restart" by "status" to get service current status, this can be done without root privileges over dbus, use: status --system [service] "man initctl" is your friend. Otherwise the "old" way that still works is: sudo invoke-rc.d [service] restart Hope it helps. From andre.massing at googlemail.com Fri Dec 16 14:48:40 2011 From: andre.massing at googlemail.com (Andre Massing) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:48:40 +0100 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there! I have already asked for some advice at the ubuntu-user list a week ago, so sorry for the cross-posting, but I haven't got any reply yet.. So maybe it is a more kubuntu-specific. So the problem is that I recently ran into the following problem after I installed the kubuntu-desktop in addition to my Gnome desktop: After logging in into KDE thunderbird/enigmail complains "Could not start the gpg-agent program which is needed for your GnuPG 2.0.17" Checking my environments variables in Konsole reveals that the GPG_AGENT_INFO variable was not set. Strangely everything works out of the box under gnome 3 + thunderbird + enigmail with the same enigmail settings, GPG_AGENT_INFO is set etc. (BTW, gpg executable is manually set to gpgp2 in the enigmail preferences) After some googlging it seems that the gnome-key-ring is somehow used to communicate with gpg-agent, and I remember I was asked for a password once or twice during my first login into KDE (but not any more). Is there maybe an issue with not starting some required services from within the KDE session? Does anybody has any ideas or pointers where to start to investigate and to nail down that problem? Or has anybody experienced somehow similar problems? I could not find any bug report or question related to that issue... And, of course, any help, pointers etc. are very much appreciated! Cheers, Andre -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO61pIAAoJEA79ggnbq9dmMhMIAJj1idM4ExahMQvBFXCwLCld MYYxHUXbnE4OEvtdPPhsmuUWoLLRHcKLCLSeB3Eb/HVfoShW/Px3DvRsbqUhQCqe qj5qwbBQ8H5WS8DSPpn/EAoju/sS/zwolu719QqBDM+3A8Mm+5SvfwZh9+GdmYjp 7rbH/85ooHdaZpIw+BqWtf/NMA0Mai/g7XEtGpimLJRw1NUXxDKUePeU+8dFwuoS npawQBTAXxhvznHHHCJhWJn1KTXdFYK/Q/yvyxYooC22V3gqlAsdWvb9P2t8Wq3z dmMm44I8s27oKxSRO3pAUnhf/jPLMwQDa7AVHUfCBJn5HspsqH1FAY3pR4San18= =njrr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From theuteck at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 15:44:28 2011 From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:44:28 -0600 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> Message-ID: I think you need you need to install 'kgpg' so KDE has the hooks to use PGP. I am not sure if that is installed by default. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Andre Massing wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Hi there! > > I have already asked for some advice at the ubuntu-user list a week > ago, so sorry for the cross-posting, but I haven't got any reply yet.. > So maybe it is a more kubuntu-specific. So the problem is that > I recently ran into the following problem after I installed the > kubuntu-desktop in addition to my Gnome desktop: > > After logging in into KDE thunderbird/enigmail complains > "Could not start the gpg-agent program which is needed for your GnuPG > 2.0.17" > > Checking my environments variables in Konsole reveals that the > GPG_AGENT_INFO variable was not set. > > Strangely everything works out of the box under gnome 3 + thunderbird > + enigmail with the same enigmail settings, GPG_AGENT_INFO is set etc. > (BTW, gpg executable is manually set to gpgp2 in the enigmail preferences) > > After some googlging it seems that the gnome-key-ring is somehow used > to communicate with gpg-agent, and I remember I was asked for a > password once or twice during my first login into KDE (but not any more). > > Is there maybe an issue with not starting some required services from > within the KDE session? > > Does anybody has any ideas or pointers where to start to investigate > and to nail down that problem? Or has anybody experienced somehow > similar problems? I could not find any bug report or question related > to that issue... > > And, of course, any help, pointers etc. are very much appreciated! > > Cheers, > Andre > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO61pIAAoJEA79ggnbq9dmMhMIAJj1idM4ExahMQvBFXCwLCld > MYYxHUXbnE4OEvtdPPhsmuUWoLLRHcKLCLSeB3Eb/HVfoShW/Px3DvRsbqUhQCqe > qj5qwbBQ8H5WS8DSPpn/EAoju/sS/zwolu719QqBDM+3A8Mm+5SvfwZh9+GdmYjp > 7rbH/85ooHdaZpIw+BqWtf/NMA0Mai/g7XEtGpimLJRw1NUXxDKUePeU+8dFwuoS > npawQBTAXxhvznHHHCJhWJn1KTXdFYK/Q/yvyxYooC22V3gqlAsdWvb9P2t8Wq3z > dmMm44I8s27oKxSRO3pAUnhf/jPLMwQDa7AVHUfCBJn5HspsqH1FAY3pR4San18= > =njrr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- no .sig found Please restart your browser. From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Fri Dec 16 17:03:58 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:03:58 +0200 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> On 16/12/11 16:48, Andre Massing wrote: > > Hi there! > > I have already asked for some advice at the ubuntu-user list a week > ago, so sorry for the cross-posting, but I haven't got any reply yet.. > So maybe it is a more kubuntu-specific. So the problem is that > I recently ran into the following problem after I installed the > kubuntu-desktop in addition to my Gnome desktop: > > After logging in into KDE thunderbird/enigmail complains > "Could not start the gpg-agent program which is needed for your GnuPG > 2.0.17" > > Checking my environments variables in Konsole reveals that the > GPG_AGENT_INFO variable was not set. > > Strangely everything works out of the box under gnome 3 + thunderbird > + enigmail with the same enigmail settings, GPG_AGENT_INFO is set etc. > (BTW, gpg executable is manually set to gpgp2 in the enigmail preferences) > > After some googlging it seems that the gnome-key-ring is somehow used > to communicate with gpg-agent, and I remember I was asked for a > password once or twice during my first login into KDE (but not any more). > > Is there maybe an issue with not starting some required services from > within the KDE session? > > Does anybody has any ideas or pointers where to start to investigate > and to nail down that problem? Or has anybody experienced somehow > similar problems? I could not find any bug report or question related > to that issue... > > And, of course, any help, pointers etc. are very much appreciated! > > Cheers, > Andre > gpg-agent should be started by X when it starts. you should have a file called: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent look for it, and see if it exists, this file is part of the gnupg-agent package. another thing, what is the default login screen? kdm or gdm? -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Lead Technician at Illusion Computers Megastore -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From andre.massing at googlemail.com Fri Dec 16 17:11:05 2011 From: andre.massing at googlemail.com (Andre Massing) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:11:05 +0100 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4EEB7BA9.4020703@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/16/2011 04:44 PM, uteck wrote: > I think you need you need to install 'kgpg' so KDE has the hooks > to use PGP. I am not sure if that is installed by default. Ok, not it is not installed by default when choosing the standard kubuntu-desktop package. But does then enigmail rely on kgpg? Will try that later today when I can access my computer. Many thanks for the hint! Andre -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO63upAAoJEA79ggnbq9dmeg8H/jmGm8CRzXeOGtPDjmtxaI1I 6XNsaBEvVj9oeCiRfgQfF2bIidTjU/jpVE6tKaj3fGPe7jcIjmkduDYTiJU5dVoB flh5xEzrw4qDxbvIsBEzJi3bYDpHVbZLw2b5QMvIFkPHWQPob2BKnu2+hBXZm1+5 vhJ27+hDDy/UVq84b+QJlu0FD5aJ5DY/YWODgd+1VjfsCOYn9Vfw0Rzcnwsw/8F0 1gja5mKmWldyLanLbSXUXCGtvQFxZA1EAQT3emXdgOD/s8th+X77klyo2CFf/0ih f0JuaetpSGL5INYQUYL/RfKiTG6j2gyFFm4LUXcVkiSczgJ8o6+FDDkFIfz+HWk= =Rcpl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From andre.massing at googlemail.com Fri Dec 16 17:26:23 2011 From: andre.massing at googlemail.com (Andre Massing) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:26:23 +0100 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4EEB7F3F.5060400@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/16/2011 06:03 PM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 16/12/11 16:48, Andre Massing wrote: >> >> Hi there! >> >> I have already asked for some advice at the ubuntu-user list a >> week ago, so sorry for the cross-posting, but I haven't got any >> reply yet.. So maybe it is a more kubuntu-specific. So the >> problem is that I recently ran into the following problem after I >> installed the kubuntu-desktop in addition to my Gnome desktop: >> >> After logging in into KDE thunderbird/enigmail complains "Could >> not start the gpg-agent program which is needed for your GnuPG >> 2.0.17" >> >> Checking my environments variables in Konsole reveals that the >> GPG_AGENT_INFO variable was not set. >> >> Strangely everything works out of the box under gnome 3 + >> thunderbird + enigmail with the same enigmail settings, >> GPG_AGENT_INFO is set etc. (BTW, gpg executable is manually set >> to gpgp2 in the enigmail preferences) >> >> After some googlging it seems that the gnome-key-ring is somehow >> used to communicate with gpg-agent, and I remember I was asked >> for a password once or twice during my first login into KDE (but >> not any more). >> >> Is there maybe an issue with not starting some required services >> from within the KDE session? >> >> Does anybody has any ideas or pointers where to start to >> investigate and to nail down that problem? Or has anybody >> experienced somehow similar problems? I could not find any bug >> report or question related to that issue... >> >> And, of course, any help, pointers etc. are very much >> appreciated! >> >> Cheers, Andre >> > > gpg-agent should be started by X when it starts. you should have a > file called: > > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent > > look for it, and see if it exists, this file is part of the > gnupg-agent package. Yes, it exists and apt-file find /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent tells me the file is part of the gnupg-agent package as expected. Strangely, the gpg-agent starts i a gnome 3 session without any problems, and corresponding environment variables as GPG_AGENT_INFO are set, not so in a KDE session. That is why I suspect that somehow the start up procedure in KDE does not involve (correctly) the gpg-agent.. > another thing, what is the default login screen? kdm or gdm? > I tried both and it failed in both. Thanks for the help so far.. Are there any other places I could check ...? - -- Andre > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO638+AAoJEA79ggnbq9dmwuwH/0vzdnfZ62+Ni46M6evJTKv7 B4dY4HbaPr9leyF4QEYpHKwfLVt792vocq85LN6TEir99QM+2EVfCavJVCg9+Dke zk3SHxJoyN1Omf9nF5co+55nO04e0UKSb1KAPC1Ehswz+/e/hzDt/bWHAxgeCtZc jeYo9YYOtLghobemkWPYb3rmXXF7gkdGo8BfeMKcuAQPDu/ECZ6rCfj4EUIxP+im m6es7qaoZ2ei6N+3L/2R4rGPI3fsVNbvkbHGsrb1i5R5ZmPsmDFiBactu1Ki9oNH dl2U+o8isRyihNaeXdi46TzLis/Im8ea5nyKYarSeYLQuCbDRVWBkBkEhLF/HY8= =8Zmd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Fri Dec 16 18:08:22 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:08:22 +0200 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EEB7F3F.5060400@googlemail.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> <4EEB7F3F.5060400@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4EEB8916.5060908@whamra.com> On 16/12/11 19:26, Andre Massing wrote: > On 12/16/2011 06:03 PM, Waleed Hamra wrote: >> On 16/12/11 16:48, Andre Massing wrote: >>> >>> Hi there! >>> >>> >>> Does anybody has any ideas or pointers where to start to >>> investigate and to nail down that problem? Or has anybody >>> experienced somehow similar problems? I could not find any bug >>> report or question related to that issue... >>> >>> And, of course, any help, pointers etc. are very much >>> appreciated! >>> >>> Cheers, Andre >>> > >> gpg-agent should be started by X when it starts. you should have a >> file called: > >> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent > >> look for it, and see if it exists, this file is part of the >> gnupg-agent package. > > Yes, it exists and apt-file find /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent tells > me the file is part of the gnupg-agent package as expected. > Strangely, the gpg-agent starts i a gnome 3 session without any > problems, and corresponding environment variables as GPG_AGENT_INFO > are set, not so in a KDE session. That is why I suspect that somehow > the start up procedure in KDE does not involve (correctly) the > gpg-agent.. > > >> another thing, what is the default login screen? kdm or gdm? > > > I tried both and it failed in both. > Thanks for the help so far.. Are there any other places I could check ...? > > maybe its just an environment variable issue. is gpg-agent running? check with: ps -A | grep gpg-agent -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Lead Technician at Illusion Computers Megastore -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 05:50:25 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 07:50:25 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk Message-ID: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> This is, for starters, not a rant. I have little use for the whole concept of the semantic desktop but I do get the possible advantages of it. Once it works. At this moment however it seems lost. I open "find" in Dolpin and search for "current" as in "current state" or whatever and get x number of mp3 files and such that has nothing at all to do with current. Have no idea where Strigi and friends pick up "current" from Swedish band Kent and their songs from the album "Röd" (red). The other main complaint: why the constant reindexing? I just found Nepomukindexer chewing 25% CPU indexing pdf files in a folder I have named "manuals". Where I have not changed or even OPENED a file for months. And that is despite the indexer claiming to be "done" now and then. Can anyone please explain how it works and what is the main problem at the moment? This is not "production ready" and I am not even making my dear wife a candidate to try this out, on her computer I switch off all desktop search functions. From fatgerman at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 10:48:14 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:48:14 +0000 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 17 Dec 2011, at 05:50, O. Sinclair wrote: > This is, for starters, not a rant. I have little use for the whole concept of the semantic desktop but I do get the possible advantages of it. Once it works. > > At this moment however it seems lost. I open "find" in Dolpin and search for "current" as in "current state" or whatever and get x number of mp3 files and such that has nothing at all to do with current. Have no idea where Strigi and friends pick up "current" from Swedish band Kent and their songs from the album "Röd" (red). If you disable Strigi, the find functionality reverts to the way it used to do it which, unsurprisingly, works. > > The other main complaint: why the constant reindexing? I just found Nepomukindexer chewing 25% CPU indexing pdf files in a folder I have named "manuals". Where I have not changed or even OPENED a file for months. And that is despite the indexer claiming to be "done" now and then. This simply has to be a bug. It does it to me too. I have disabled Strigi by simply disabling it in system settings and I haven't noticed it doing anything unusual recently. > > Can anyone please explain how it works and what is the main problem at the moment? It is *supposed* to allow you to search file names, contents, metadata etc all from the same place - like a Mac does, only slower and less reliably. However at the moment it appears to be a disjointed hodgepodge of badly designed components that aren't finished and have never been tested. It simply doesn't work and should never have been included in a distribution release. This stuff ought to have been made available through a 'testing' ppa while the main release was released free from nepo-strigi-muk. I'd like to add that of course, new features always seem to breed a lot of resentment, especially in the linux world - people don't seem to like change. However this nepomuk/strigi thing is not one of those times when people have a rant for a while and then get over it. This is pure and simple bad software that doesn't work properly and really screws up our systems for the things we do day to day. If there is anyone in the KDE world leading this whole project, then they should be thrown over a barrel and whipped with sticks. Mark > This is not "production ready" and I am not even making my dear wife a candidate to try this out, on her computer I switch off all desktop search functions. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From andre.massing at googlemail.com Sat Dec 17 11:48:35 2011 From: andre.massing at googlemail.com (Andre Massing) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:48:35 +0100 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EEB8916.5060908@whamra.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> <4EEB7F3F.5060400@googlemail.com> <4EEB8916.5060908@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4EEC8193.8040304@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Thanks for the quick reply! [snip] >>> gpg-agent should be started by X when it starts. you should >>> have a file called: >> >>> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent >> >>> look for it, and see if it exists, this file is part of the >>> gnupg-agent package. >> >> Yes, it exists and apt-file find /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent >> tells me the file is part of the gnupg-agent package as >> expected. Strangely, the gpg-agent starts i a gnome 3 session >> without any problems, and corresponding environment variables as >> GPG_AGENT_INFO are set, not so in a KDE session. That is why I >> suspect that somehow the start up procedure in KDE does not >> involve (correctly) the gpg-agent.. >> >> >>> another thing, what is the default login screen? kdm or gdm? >> >> >> I tried both and it failed in both. Thanks for the help so far.. >> Are there any other places I could check ...? >> >> > > maybe its just an environment variable issue. is gpg-agent > running? check with: > > ps -A | grep gpg-agent I checked that and it turned out that the gpg-agent is not running when I log into my KDE session. I also did a pristine installation of kubuntu 11.10 on a VM, installing all updates and thunderbird in combination with enigmail and I get the same problem: no gpg-agent running. That is kind of strange, I guess there quite some people out there using KDE/kubuntu + Thunderbird and gpg... And in addition thunderbird did not even recognize that enigmail is installed, manifesting in a missing openpgp menu.. ATM I am rather clueless where to start, especially since it does not seem to be a prominent problem according to my google searches. But as always any hints and pointers are highly appreciated... And probably I should file a bug report if I haven't overlooked something rather obvious. - -- Andre > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO7IGTAAoJEA79ggnbq9dmYNcIAJthMLfp0t/huVNFUePQeWgk 2qaQlz15PVhTg3HlHgrn+VkOoxRTUb21IMmhstmCbYqo+aE7ZURnFn8Tl2C/RRdH Ex+haidseO4lodxeRzxAOpsEPTwHjJhWl0ZbQxYofGLvVSDdOxIe4h6xdZGeqSlD 5h/NTJvtSnem1tnfiVVgaD2SYtPjqkueLaUJ/9AMO1CN5W/tcHOtsbpUxg0TEigC YwqDQz63+SrdIS318sLr8UvaLe3oKKSPlOXse+I/0bElkQ6EynCT43TMe/IEV++U IsF2QfJgKv/ImKLEkJNYn3OA/fHdoZsaGA7kA8RBYpxrQgZ2B/uL1FT8d80AvQM= =prMj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kaj at haulrich.net Sat Dec 17 12:32:45 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:32:45 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> On 12/17/2011 11:48 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > On 17 Dec 2011, at 05:50, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> This is, for starters, not a rant. I have little use for the whole concept of the semantic desktop but I do get the possible advantages of it. Once it works. >> >> At this moment however it seems lost. I open "find" in Dolpin and search for "current" as in "current state" or whatever and get x number of mp3 files and such that has nothing at all to do with current. Have no idea where Strigi and friends pick up "current" from Swedish band Kent and their songs from the album "Röd" (red). > > If you disable Strigi, the find functionality reverts to the way it used to do it which, unsurprisingly, works. > >> >> The other main complaint: why the constant reindexing? I just found Nepomukindexer chewing 25% CPU indexing pdf files in a folder I have named "manuals". Where I have not changed or even OPENED a file for months. And that is despite the indexer claiming to be "done" now and then. > > This simply has to be a bug. It does it to me too. I have disabled Strigi by simply disabling it in system settings and I haven't noticed it doing anything unusual recently. > >> >> Can anyone please explain how it works and what is the main problem at the moment? > > It is *supposed* to allow you to search file names, contents, metadata etc all from the same place - like a Mac does, only slower and less reliably. However at the moment it appears to be a disjointed hodgepodge of badly designed components that aren't finished and have never been tested. It simply doesn't work and should never have been included in a distribution release. This stuff ought to have been made available through a 'testing' ppa while the main release was released free from nepo-strigi-muk. > > I'd like to add that of course, new features always seem to breed a lot of resentment, especially in the linux world - people don't seem to like change. However this nepomuk/strigi thing is not one of those times when people have a rant for a while and then get over it. This is pure and simple bad software that doesn't work properly and really screws up our systems for the things we do day to day. If there is anyone in the KDE world leading this whole project, then they should be thrown over a barrel and whipped with sticks. > > Mark > > > >> This is not "production ready" and I am not even making my dear wife a candidate to try this out, on her computer I switch off all desktop search functions. >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Once again: one can disable not only Strigi, but Nepomuk as well. Eventually by unticking it in Service Manager. No need for the whole Nepomuk / Akonadi / Soprano / Strigi rigmarole if you don't use KMail, KAddressbook etc.. By doing so you'll get a system that runs faster than a greased lightning. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Sat Dec 17 15:44:33 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:44:33 +0200 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EEC8193.8040304@googlemail.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> <4EEB7F3F.5060400@googlemail.com> <4EEB8916.5060908@whamra.com> <4EEC8193.8040304@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4EECB8E1.8040707@whamra.com> On 17/12/11 13:48, Andre Massing wrote: > > Hi! > > Thanks for the quick reply! > > [snip] > >>>> gpg-agent should be started by X when it starts. you should >>>> have a file called: >>> >>>> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent >>> >>>> look for it, and see if it exists, this file is part of the >>>> gnupg-agent package. >>> >>> Yes, it exists and apt-file find /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent >>> tells me the file is part of the gnupg-agent package as >>> expected. Strangely, the gpg-agent starts i a gnome 3 session >>> without any problems, and corresponding environment variables as >>> GPG_AGENT_INFO are set, not so in a KDE session. That is why I >>> suspect that somehow the start up procedure in KDE does not >>> involve (correctly) the gpg-agent.. >>> >>> >>>> another thing, what is the default login screen? kdm or gdm? >>> >>> >>> I tried both and it failed in both. Thanks for the help so far.. >>> Are there any other places I could check ...? >>> >>> > >> maybe its just an environment variable issue. is gpg-agent >> running? check with: > >> ps -A | grep gpg-agent > > I checked that and it turned out that the gpg-agent is not running > when I log into my KDE session. > > I also did a pristine installation of kubuntu 11.10 on a VM, > installing all updates and thunderbird in combination with enigmail > and I get the same problem: no gpg-agent running. That is kind of > strange, I guess there quite some people out there using KDE/kubuntu + > Thunderbird and gpg... And in addition thunderbird did not even > recognize that enigmail is installed, manifesting in a missing openpgp > menu.. > ATM I am rather clueless where to start, especially since it does not > seem to be a prominent problem according to my google searches. > > But as always any hints and pointers are highly appreciated... And > probably I should file a bug report if I haven't overlooked something > rather obvious. > hmm... i did a fresh install of kubuntu 11.10 2 weeks ago, and things worked fine. but maybe due to custom config files i copied from my home system. open ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf in a text editor, create it if doesnt exist. make sure it has the line: use-agent alone on a line by itself. my file also has: utf8-strings keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net and were added by GPGConf as some comments in the file indicate. then open the file ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf make sure it has some pinentry line, mine is: pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4 nograb hope this helps. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Lead Technician at Illusion Computers Megastore -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Sat Dec 17 15:50:33 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:50:33 +0200 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EECB8E1.8040707@whamra.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> <4EEB7F3F.5060400@googlemail.com> <4EEB8916.5060908@whamra.com> <4EEC8193.8040304@googlemail.com> <4EECB8E1.8040707@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4EECBA49.2070800@whamra.com> On 17/12/11 17:44, Waleed Hamra wrote: > > hmm... i did a fresh install of kubuntu 11.10 2 weeks ago, and things > worked fine. but maybe due to custom config files i copied from my home > system. > open ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf in a text editor, create it if doesnt exist. > make sure it has the line: > > use-agent > > alone on a line by itself. my file also has: > > utf8-strings > keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net > > and were added by GPGConf as some comments in the file indicate. > then open the file ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf > > make sure it has some pinentry line, mine is: > > pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4 > nograb > > hope this helps. > oh, and reboot after the changes, before testing -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Lead Technician at Illusion Computers Megastore -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From andre.massing at googlemail.com Sat Dec 17 16:56:00 2011 From: andre.massing at googlemail.com (Andre Massing) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:56:00 +0100 Subject: enigmail does not find gpg-agent in kde In-Reply-To: <4EECB8E1.8040707@whamra.com> References: <4EE4EA40.8030109@googlemail.com> <4EEB5A48.5020209@googlemail.com> <4EEB79FE.2020607@whamra.com> <4EEB7F3F.5060400@googlemail.com> <4EEB8916.5060908@whamra.com> <4EEC8193.8040304@googlemail.com> <4EECB8E1.8040707@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4EECC9A0.3040308@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 First of all thanks for the constant help! [snip] > > hmm... i did a fresh install of kubuntu 11.10 2 weeks ago, and > things worked fine. but maybe due to custom config files i copied > from my home system. open ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf in a text editor, > create it if doesnt exist. make sure it has the line: > > use-agent > > alone on a line by itself. my file also has: > > utf8-strings keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net > > and were added by GPGConf as some comments in the file indicate. > then open the file ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf > > make sure it has some pinentry line, mine is: > > pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4 nograb Just a sidenote. On my VM I realized that kdm returned to the login screen when nograp was active. I had to comment it out and then the KDE session was loaded again. > > hope this helps. Yes, indeed that took me a step further. First of all gpg-agent got loaded and the environment variable was set when using pinentry-qt4. Without that setting the gnome-keyring is (somehow automatically) used (to be more precise the /usr/lib/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring-prompt program) in my gnome 3 session, but KDE does not seem to fall back on that by default. For gpg 1.4 that behavior is ok, since enigmail has its own enter pin dialog. But when you use gpg2 as I do a proper gpg-agent is required. OK, seems to be solved now, thanks a lot for your suggestions and help! Cheers - -- Andre -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO7MmgAAoJEA79ggnbq9dm7e0IAPBjLOJM/kQrHxBed2cllLMz wFIsWXevxva/OmJGyyuRSyLjdjGn1wtfUlhaOb3M0oLVJpmvCy56mr7TyKLifTFS LEALhS9l5zIhnGW/Au7mcKJpZ5Tb+uKW8hYOzTgz92rEdHVbYPLaTHIQr9/UZa/5 fc07tK6QKQ4niImmJqdMj54TbNG1t29drDnpRYr3w5rJd4de6+tsbrXk7qnAUMca AjFjPEwkxiPnIAShJFgF4mjW7R6/0Tj1iyQRjYFv1LfwZLyjXH2rrawRW9T2rGZz mUFUxukc7RY4WQoOWF8JK94mmWSgEKdaLEv8Y86v2GOAirV7TcZhUqQ02eAXmTs= =xYRc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fatgerman at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 22:03:20 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:03:20 +0000 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> >> >> > Once again: one can disable not only Strigi, but Nepomuk as well. Eventually by unticking it in Service Manager. No need for the whole Nepomuk / Akonadi / Soprano / Strigi rigmarole if you don't use KMail, KAddressbook etc.. By doing so you'll get a system that runs faster than a greased lightning. > That's fine, and useful. But the point is that this stuff should not be in a release of an operating system. It does not work, and deeply affects the performance of the entire system. It should not be necessary to switch off core features just to get a useable computer. KDE really messed this one up, and lessons must be learned. Mark > Kaj Haulrich. > -- > --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- > --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 --------- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 23:39:28 2011 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 09:39:28 +1000 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:03:20 PM Mark Greenwood wrote: > That's fine, and useful. But the point is that this stuff should not be in a > release of an operating system. It does not work, and deeply affects the > performance of the entire system. It should not be necessary to switch off > core features just to get a useable computer. KDE really messed this one > up, and lessons must be learned. A few months back I saw a post on a nepomuk developers blog re the fact that: - external interfaces were poorly or not documented and frequently changed - return codes/exceptions were undocumented and frequently changed - errors went largely unlogged and were ignored - logging in general was almost non-existent I commented that this was a recipe for disaster - in the large corporate projects I worked on it was essential for core services to be well documented and *essential* for them to log every error, especially unexpected ones. It paid off in spades when you were trying to debug weird shit happening on the various remote and obscure setups we had to work with. Sure you have to keep service specifications flexible, especially in development as new requirements/problem emerge, but you also have to be able to say enough is enough and tie it down. And always always document and make it transparent. My comment was deleted. -- Lindsay From errol at tzora.co.il Sun Dec 18 04:15:14 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 06:15:14 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4EED68D2.3070005@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 04:46:38 2011 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:46:38 -0800 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> Message-ID: <7746448.BZIa8qAuC8@steve-aspire> I suspect some of bloat, and a contributor to the claims that KDE "feels slow," has to do with the sheer number of databases. I'm experimenting with building a KDE system by hand. So far, three separate databases are installed: * MySQL for Akonadi * Sqlite for Quassel * Virtuoso for Nepomuk Quassel is hardcoded to depend on Sqlite. Akonadi can be switched to that as well, but some docs on KDE.org warn against that, claiming performance will suffer. Nepomuk is similarly wedded to Virtuoso through Soprano. Surely there has to be a better way. --Steve On Sunday 18 December 2011 09:39:28 Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > A few months back I saw a post on a nepomuk developers blog re the fact > that: > > - external interfaces were poorly or not documented and frequently changed > > - return codes/exceptions were undocumented and frequently changed > > - errors went largely unlogged and were ignored > > - logging in general was almost non-existent > > > I commented that this was a recipe for disaster - in the large corporate > projects I worked on it was essential for core services to be well > documented and *essential* for them to log every error, especially > unexpected ones. It paid off in spades when you were trying to debug weird > shit happening on the various remote and obscure setups we had to work > with. > > Sure you have to keep service specifications flexible, especially in > development as new requirements/problem emerge, but you also have to be able > to say enough is enough and tie it down. And always always document and > make it transparent. > > My comment was deleted. > > -- > Lindsay > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 06:25:55 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:25:55 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <4EED8773.4080100@gmail.com> On 17/12/11 14:32, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On 12/17/2011 11:48 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> On 17 Dec 2011, at 05:50, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >>> This is, for starters, not a rant. I have little use for the whole >>> concept of the semantic desktop but I do get the possible advantages >>> of it. Once it works. >>> >>> At this moment however it seems lost. I open "find" in Dolpin and >>> search for "current" as in "current state" or whatever and get x >>> number of mp3 files and such that has nothing at all to do with >>> current. Have no idea where Strigi and friends pick up "current" from >>> Swedish band Kent and their songs from the album "Röd" (red). >> >> If you disable Strigi, the find functionality reverts to the way it >> used to do it which, unsurprisingly, works. >> >>> >>> The other main complaint: why the constant reindexing? I just found >>> Nepomukindexer chewing 25% CPU indexing pdf files in a folder I have >>> named "manuals". Where I have not changed or even OPENED a file for >>> months. And that is despite the indexer claiming to be "done" now and >>> then. >> >> This simply has to be a bug. It does it to me too. I have disabled >> Strigi by simply disabling it in system settings and I haven't noticed >> it doing anything unusual recently. >> >>> >>> Can anyone please explain how it works and what is the main problem >>> at the moment? >> >> It is *supposed* to allow you to search file names, contents, metadata >> etc all from the same place - like a Mac does, only slower and less >> reliably. However at the moment it appears to be a disjointed >> hodgepodge of badly designed components that aren't finished and have >> never been tested. It simply doesn't work and should never have been >> included in a distribution release. This stuff ought to have been made >> available through a 'testing' ppa while the main release was released >> free from nepo-strigi-muk. >> >> I'd like to add that of course, new features always seem to breed a >> lot of resentment, especially in the linux world - people don't seem >> to like change. However this nepomuk/strigi thing is not one of those >> times when people have a rant for a while and then get over it. This >> is pure and simple bad software that doesn't work properly and really >> screws up our systems for the things we do day to day. If there is >> anyone in the KDE world leading this whole project, then they should >> be thrown over a barrel and whipped with sticks. >> >> Mark >> >> >> >>> This is not "production ready" and I am not even making my dear wife >>> a candidate to try this out, on her computer I switch off all desktop >>> search functions. >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > Once again: one can disable not only Strigi, but Nepomuk as well. > Eventually by unticking it in Service Manager. No need for the whole > Nepomuk / Akonadi / Soprano / Strigi rigmarole if you don't use KMail, > KAddressbook etc.. By doing so you'll get a system that runs faster than > a greased lightning. > Problem here being that I use and LIKE Kontact including the addressbook etc. Sure, the 4.7 version has been a struggle but I now have most things back to how they worked in earlier versions. But if I switch off Strigi et al suddenly my addressbook is conked. Well not really but the "auto fill in" function in KMail disappears. I know that the Nepomuk developer is busy fixing bugs left right and centre but the fixes do not seem to find their way to our distro at least. And I am really starting to wish for a "kdepim pre 4.7" ppa. From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 18 07:08:59 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:08:59 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <4EED8773.4080100@gmail.com> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <4EED8773.4080100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201112180808.59256.kassube@gmx.net> O. Sinclair wrote: > And I am really starting to wish for a "kdepim pre 4.7" ppa. Can't you install the package(s) from e.g. 10.04? Usually older versions run without a problem. Of course you should then hold that package so it wouldn't get overwritten by the next update [1]. Nils [1] From fatgerman at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 10:09:09 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:09:09 +0000 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EED68D2.3070005@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> <4EED68D2.3070005@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: There are still possibilities… it could be the kernel driver for your sound card might need some tweaking, can you send the output of lspci -k and we'll see if there's anything we can find out. These things can be very frustrating and confusing when they don't work, especially when pulseaudio is introduced into the mess. But if we work from the bottom up we should be able to track down the problem. Mark On 18 Dec 2011, at 04:15, Errol Sapir wrote: > Thanks to all who have tried to help me with my problem. The reason I haven't replied sooner is that I was experimenting with all possible ways to get the microphone to work.The bottom line is that it still isn't working. It must have something to do with my configuration (or lack of). I'll list what I have tried, as I said without success, and not necessarily did I try things in the order written. > I checked out my kmix configurations. There is mike 1 and mike 2 - none worked. > I even changed my OB sound card to a creative ensoniq pci one. > I uninstalled pulseaudio and the played around with various configurations. > With all of the above I tried using the mike with skype and audacity. > I guess it can't be the mike itself because it works in Windows. > So I remain confused and frustrated. > Errol > > On 12/15/2011 03:12 PM, Gil Gibbons wrote: >> >> Hi Errol, >> >> I use Skype with a Logitech 9000 usb web cam and under Multimedia setting Phonon audio recording, >> Recording, I changed the audio recording preference from Internal audio to QuickCam Pro 9000 >> and Audio is working. >> Gil >> >> >> >> >> On 12/14/2011 11:15 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Mark. I opened the kmix and am now starting to play with various combinations of hardware and setting possibilities. Meanwhile to no avail. The sound can be heard but no microphone. Will continue to experiment and report but my feeling is that the whole configuration is wrong. Maybe "pulseaudio server (local)" which is the only option I have in skype for sound isn't correct. I don't know. >>> Errol >>> >>> On 12/14/2011 11:07 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The icon bounces because KMix is already running - it's the icon in the panel. If you click that icon you'll get a volume control. At the bottom should be a button you can click to open the mixer. From there you should be able to select which input to use for recording. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14 Dec 2011, at 00:31, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>> >>>>> mmmm. Getting no recording on audacity. >>>>> When I try to open kmix the icon bounces for a few seconds and then closes. I cannot open kmix. Tried re-installing & rebooting but no change. Looks like my problem is there. >>>>> I can control the speaker volume from the icon on the panel, but no kmix. >>>>> Now what? >>>>> Errol >>>>> >>>>> On 12/13/2011 08:11 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13 Dec 2011, at 14:58, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark I don't know if it's just skype. The only program I need a microphone for is Skype. To answer your hardware question. I have a Gigabit GA K8NF motherboard with everything OB except the monitor card which is a NVidia.I have a AMD 3500 CPU and 2 giga ram. Hope that info is useful. >>>>>> >>>>>> The most useful information would be to try recording with something else, like audacity. This will tell you if it's a Skype problem or if you just need to select an appropriate input in KMix. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Errol >>>>>>> On 12/13/2011 02:47 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is it just Skype? Can you record into another application (e.g. audacity)?. If not then you probably need to mess with the mixer (alsamixer) or KMix to select the correct audio input. Depending on your sound card there might be some alsa module options that need to be set. What computer is it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13 Dec 2011, at 12:15, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have had a microphone/sound problem with Kubuntu while trying to use Skype since version Nattty. I thought that by upgrading to Oneiric the problem would be solved but that wasn't what happened. I cannot use the microphone in Skype. The loudspeakers work, i.e. I hear but cannot speak to anyone, not even does the test microphone work. On the same computer my dual-booted Windows 7 works flawlessly. >>>>>>>>> I have (in the past) removed pulse-sound, tried working without it, added it again and tried many workarounds to no avail. 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URL: From michael.renner at gmx.de Sun Dec 18 13:06:11 2011 From: michael.renner at gmx.de (Michael Renner) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:06:11 +0100 Subject: ekiga and pulseaudio (lucid) Message-ID: <201112181406.12043.michael.renner@gmx.de> Moin, Kubuntu 10.4 LTS is running fine at my ADM64 notebook. Skype is using a USB headset, everything else is configured to use the build in soundcard. I installed ekiga 3.2.6 now. Sound via the default sound device (the build in device) works, but without a build in microphone is dosn't make sense. But the USB-Sounddevice does not work with ekiga. I can select the Logitech USB Headset menu entry in preferences | Devices, but it does not work: ----------- cut --------------- No incoming sound will be played. Unable to open the selected audio device por playine. In case it is a pluggable device it may be sufficient to reconnect it. If not, or if it still is not accessibale, please check your audio setup, the permissions and that the device it not busy ----------- cut --------------- I reconnected the device, I stopped skype ...... but the error message is still the same. Any hint? Thanks -- |Michael Renner E-mail: michael.renner at gmx.de | |81541 Munich skype: michael.renner.gmx.de | |Germany Don't drink as root! ESC:wq From errol at tzora.co.il Sun Dec 18 18:51:22 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:51:22 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> <4EED68D2.3070005@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EEE362A.9010203@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 01:12:59 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:12:59 +0000 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EEE362A.9010203@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> <4EED68D2.3070005@tzora.co.il> <4EEE362A.9010203@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: OK there are two possibilities that spring to mind, let's try the easy one first First, start Skype and make sure the option 'Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels' is NOT checked. This is very important. Now, sometimes pulseaudio chooses the wrong input as the default input Open a terminal and type ''alsamixer' Hit F4 to see the recording inputs One of them will be chosen as the current capture input - it'll have the word 'CAPTURE' in red underneath it. In the mixer you use the left and right arrow keys to select a control, up and down to change the levels, and space to select which one is the current capture input. Try changing the inputs and messing around with the levels and see if you can get Skype or Audacity to record anything. If that fails, then you may need to go into Kmix, open the mixer, from the menu choose 'Settings->Audio Setup' and then the 'Audio Hardware Setup' Tab. This couldn't be more confusing if they tried but you have to: Choose the correct sound card (probably 'Internal Audio') Choose a profile (Analogue Stereo Duplex) Choose Sound Device: Recording-Internal Audio Analogue Stereo Then you may be able to select different inputs from 'Connector' - things like 'Internal Microphone' or 'Analogue Microphone' You'll get a level meter when you do this. If you can see it moving then try 'Apply'ing those settings and try Skype again Mark On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:51, Errol Sapir wrote: > Hi Mark > Here is the lspci -k result. Hope it helps you to understand what is going o. > Errol > 00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > Kernel driver in use: nForce2_smbus > Kernel modules: i2c-nforce2 > 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd > 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd > 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f2) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > Kernel driver in use: pata_amd > Kernel modules: pata_amd > 00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > Kernel driver in use: sata_nv > Kernel modules: sata_nv > 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > Kernel driver in use: sata_nv > Kernel modules: sata_nv > 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) > 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > Kernel driver in use: pcieport > Kernel modules: shpchp > 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > Kernel driver in use: pcieport > Kernel modules: shpchp > 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > Kernel driver in use: pcieport > Kernel modules: shpchp > 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) > Kernel driver in use: pcieport > Kernel modules: shpchp > 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration > 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map > 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller > 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control > Kernel driver in use: k8temp > Kernel modules: k8temp > 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) > Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC > Kernel driver in use: r8169 > Kernel modules: r8169 > 01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880B [AudioPCI] (rev 02) > Subsystem: Ensoniq Sound Blaster 16PCI 4.1ch > Kernel driver in use: ENS1371 > Kernel modules: snd-ens1371 > 01:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB82AA2 IEEE-1394b Link Layer Controller (rev 01) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard > Kernel modules: firewire-ohci > 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600] > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 2100 > Kernel driver in use: radeon > Kernel modules: radeon, radeonfb > 05:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600] (Secondary) > Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 2101 > > > On 12/18/2011 12:09 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> >> There are still possibilities… it could be the kernel driver for your sound card might need some tweaking, can you send the output of >> >> lspci -k >> >> and we'll see if there's anything we can find out. >> >> These things can be very frustrating and confusing when they don't work, especially when pulseaudio is introduced into the mess. But if we work from the bottom up we should be able to track down the problem. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 04:15, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >>> Thanks to all who have tried to help me with my problem. The reason I haven't replied sooner is that I was experimenting with all possible ways to get the microphone to work.The bottom line is that it still isn't working. It must have something to do with my configuration (or lack of). I'll list what I have tried, as I said without success, and not necessarily did I try things in the order written. >>> I checked out my kmix configurations. There is mike 1 and mike 2 - none worked. >>> I even changed my OB sound card to a creative ensoniq pci one. >>> I uninstalled pulseaudio and the played around with various configurations. >>> With all of the above I tried using the mike with skype and audacity. >>> I guess it can't be the mike itself because it works in Windows. >>> So I remain confused and frustrated. >>> Errol >> > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 10:42:32 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:42:32 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.7.4 Message-ID: <1453575.KaBsUKykyM@gkourtev-laptop> Dear all, I got notification for KDE 4.7.4 update through the package manager, but I don't see any announcement on kubuntu.org website. Any ideas why? Is it OK to update? Thanks, gk From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Mon Dec 19 10:54:19 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:54:19 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: <1453575.KaBsUKykyM@gkourtev-laptop> References: <1453575.KaBsUKykyM@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <4EEF17DB.6080806@whamra.com> Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Dear all, > > I got notification for KDE 4.7.4 update through the package manager, but I > don't see any announcement on kubuntu.org website. Any ideas why? Is it OK > to update? > Thanks, > gk > weird, i didnt get it, just did a manual check and it's not there. it might be offered in a PPA. what does this command in terminal output? apt-cache policy kde-workspace -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems Lead Technician at Illusion Computers Megastore -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 11:27:19 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:27:19 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: <4EEF17DB.6080806@whamra.com> References: <1453575.KaBsUKykyM@gkourtev-laptop> <4EEF17DB.6080806@whamra.com> Message-ID: <3835282.EgT3BJStrf@gkourtev-laptop> > weird, i didnt get it, just did a manual check and it's not there. it > might be offered in a PPA. YES > > what does this command in terminal output? > > apt-cache policy kde-workspace From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Dec 19 13:52:39 2011 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 13:52:39 +0000 Subject: kde 4.7.4 upgrade problems Message-ID: <4EEF41A7.3030104@blueyonder.co.uk> How do I get kde4 to 4.7.4, do I need a repository change or added? # apt-cache policy libqt4-core libqt4-core: Installed: (none) Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8 Version table: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/universe amd64 Packages # apt-cache policy libqt4-core libqt4-core: Installed: (none) Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8 Version table: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/universe amd64 Packages root at sdrbox1:~# apt-cache policy kde-workspace kde-workspace: Installed: 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 Candidate: 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 Version table: *** 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-proposed/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu2 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 Packages 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages # aptitude install libqt4-core The following NEW packages will be installed: libqt4-core{b} 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 6,296 B of archives. After unpacking 131 kB will be used. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libqt4-core: Conflicts: libqt4-core but 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8 is installed. libqt4-core: Conflicts: libqt4-core but 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu8 is to be installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies: Remove the following packages: 1) flashplugin-downloader 2) flashplugin-installer 3) libasound2 4) libasound2-plugins 5) libasyncns0 6) libatk1.0-0 7) libaudio2 8) libavahi-client3 9) libavahi-common3 10) libc6 11) libcairo2 12) libcomerr2 13) libcups2 14) libcurl3 15) libdatrie1 16) libdb5.1 17) libdbus-1-3 18) libdrm-intel1 19) libdrm-nouveau1a 20) libdrm-radeon1 21) libdrm2 22) libexpat1 23) libffi6 24) libflac8 25) libfontconfig1 26) libfreetype6 27) libgcc1 28) libgcrypt11 29) libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 30) libgl1-mesa-dri 31) libgl1-mesa-glx 32) libglapi-mesa 33) libglib2.0-0 34) libgnutls26 35) libgpg-error0 36) libgssapi-krb5-2 37) libgtk2.0-0 38) libice6 39) libidn11 40) libjack-jackd2-0 41) libjasper1 42) libjpeg62 43) libjson0 44) libk5crypto3 45) libkeyutils1 46) libkrb5-3 47) libkrb5support0 48) liblcms1 49) libldap-2.4-2 50) libllvm2.9 51) libmng1 52) libnspr4 53) libnspr4-0d 54) libnss3 55) libnss3-1d 56) libogg0 57) libpango1.0-0 58) libpciaccess0 59) libpcre3 60) libpixman-1-0 61) libpng12-0 62) libpulse0 63) libqt4-core 64) libqt4-dbus 65) libqt4-declarative 66) libqt4-designer 67) libqt4-gui 68) libqt4-network 69) libqt4-opengl 70) libqt4-script 71) libqt4-sql 72) libqt4-svg 73) libqt4-test 74) libqt4-xml 75) libqt4-xmlpatterns 76) libqtcore4 77) libqtgui4 78) librtmp0 79) libsamplerate0 80) libsasl2-2 81) libsasl2-modules 82) libselinux1 83) libsm6 84) libsndfile1 85) libspeexdsp1 86) libsqlite3-0 87) libssl1.0.0 88) libstdc++6 89) libtasn1-3 90) libthai0 91) libtiff4 92) libuuid1 93) libvorbis0a 94) libvorbisenc2 95) libwrap0 96) libx11-6 97) libxau6 98) libxcb-render0 99) libxcb-shm0 100) libxcb1 101) libxcomposite1 102) libxcursor1 103) libxdamage1 104) libxdmcp6 105) libxext6 106) libxfixes3 107) libxft2 108) libxi6 109) libxinerama1 110) libxrandr2 111) libxrender1 112) libxss1 113) libxt6 114) libxxf86vm1 115) nspluginviewer 116) nspluginwrapper 117) zlib1g Leave the following dependencies unresolved: 118) ubuntu-restricted-addons recommends flashplugin-installer 119) flashplugin-downloader recommends libasound2-plugins (>= 1.0.16) Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] root at sdrbox1:~# aptitude install kde-workspace No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. root at sdrbox1:~# dpkg -l kde-workspace Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-=====================================================-=====================================================-========================================================================================================================== ii kde-workspace 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 KDE Plasma Workspace components Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... 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URL: From errol at tzora.co.il Mon Dec 19 18:50:02 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 20:50:02 +0200 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> <4EED68D2.3070005@tzora.co.il> <4EEE362A.9010203@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4EEF875A.6030709@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 03:35:32 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:35:32 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <8655206.Cs80P7q2CS@tanghus> References: <1690790.7bEAUEIDDp@tanghus> <8655206.Cs80P7q2CS@tanghus> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > You've most likely established that it *isn't* Nepomuk that is the culprit ;-) > > Another guess: Have you looked in your autostart folders? That would be > ~/.kde/env and ~/.kde/Autostart. here's the ~/.kde/env folder $ ls gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh $ vim gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh #!/bin/bash # Make sure our customised gtkrc file is loaded. export GTK2_RC_FILES=$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 See the ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 file $ vim ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 include "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" And here's the ~/.kde/Autostart folder za at zara:~/.kde/Autostart$ ls -l total 0 Would it be the problem is cause by this oxygen-gtk? -- Zaki Akhmad From thomas at tanghus.net Tue Dec 20 11:24:34 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:24:34 +0100 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: References: <8655206.Cs80P7q2CS@tanghus> Message-ID: <2183258.tGX9fUkbGr@tanghus> On Tuesday 20 December 2011 10:35 Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > You've most likely established that it *isn't* Nepomuk that is the > > culprit ;-) > > > > Another guess: Have you looked in your autostart folders? That would be > > ~/.kde/env and ~/.kde/Autostart. > > here's the ~/.kde/env folder > > $ ls > gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh > > $ vim gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh > #!/bin/bash > > # Make sure our customised gtkrc file is loaded. > export GTK2_RC_FILES=$HOME/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 > > See the ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 file > $ vim ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4 > include "/usr/share/themes/oxygen-gtk/gtk-2.0/gtkrc" > > And here's the ~/.kde/Autostart folder > za at zara:~/.kde/Autostart$ ls -l > total 0 > > Would it be the problem is cause by this oxygen-gtk? Very unlikely but you can always try not to load gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh. I'm running out of ideas for what can be the cause, sorry... -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From fatgerman at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 11:47:57 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 11:47:57 +0000 Subject: sound with skype In-Reply-To: <4EEF875A.6030709@tzora.co.il> References: <4EE741D0.8010709@tzora.co.il> <4EE76831.8060509@tzora.co.il> <4B4F9452-BC27-4D72-B0C7-B96814F12113@gmail.com> <4EE7EE5B.8040601@tzora.co.il> <4EE97473.1000408@tzora.co.il> <4EE9F24C.4010404@verizon.net> <4EED68D2.3070005@tzora.co.il> <4EEE362A.9010203@tzora.co.il> <4EEF875A.6030709@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: If you've got no audio device config in KDE and Skype is giving you microphone options, this implies you've somehow managed to kill off pulseaudio. Which is not necessarily a bad thing but might be the root of the original problem. In any case it works so I would stop messing with it :) Mark On 19 Dec 2011, at 18:50, Errol Sapir wrote: > MARK (and others). IT WORKS!! Sorry for shouting but after such a long time trying I just had to shout. Thanks for all your help. What I did was play around in Skype with the various options for Microphone devices and suddenly one of then allowed me to hear my voice in the skype test call. > It certainly was your time and effort that put me on the track. > Thanks again > Errol > > On 12/19/2011 03:12 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> OK there are two possibilities that spring to mind, let's try the easy one first >> >> First, start Skype and make sure the option 'Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels' is NOT checked. This is very important. >> >> Now, sometimes pulseaudio chooses the wrong input as the default input >> >> Open a terminal and type ''alsamixer' >> Hit F4 to see the recording inputs >> One of them will be chosen as the current capture input - it'll have the word 'CAPTURE' in red underneath it. >> In the mixer you use the left and right arrow keys to select a control, up and down to change the levels, and space to select which one is the current capture input. >> Try changing the inputs and messing around with the levels and see if you can get Skype or Audacity to record anything. >> >> If that fails, then you may need to go into Kmix, open the mixer, from the menu choose 'Settings->Audio Setup' and then the 'Audio Hardware Setup' Tab. >> This couldn't be more confusing if they tried but you have to: >> Choose the correct sound card (probably 'Internal Audio') >> Choose a profile (Analogue Stereo Duplex) >> Choose Sound Device: Recording-Internal Audio Analogue Stereo >> Then you may be able to select different inputs from 'Connector' - things like 'Internal Microphone' or 'Analogue Microphone' >> You'll get a level meter when you do this. If you can see it moving then try 'Apply'ing those settings and try Skype again >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:51, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >>> Hi Mark >>> Here is the lspci -k result. Hope it helps you to understand what is going o. >>> Errol >>> 00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a3) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a3) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> Kernel driver in use: nForce2_smbus >>> Kernel modules: i2c-nforce2 >>> 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd >>> 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a3) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd >>> 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f2) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> Kernel driver in use: pata_amd >>> Kernel modules: pata_amd >>> 00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> Kernel driver in use: sata_nv >>> Kernel modules: sata_nv >>> 00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> Kernel driver in use: sata_nv >>> Kernel modules: sata_nv >>> 00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) >>> 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) >>> Kernel driver in use: pcieport >>> Kernel modules: shpchp >>> 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) >>> Kernel driver in use: pcieport >>> Kernel modules: shpchp >>> 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) >>> Kernel driver in use: pcieport >>> Kernel modules: shpchp >>> 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) >>> Kernel driver in use: pcieport >>> Kernel modules: shpchp >>> 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration >>> 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map >>> 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller >>> 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control >>> Kernel driver in use: k8temp >>> Kernel modules: k8temp >>> 01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) >>> Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8169/8110 Family PCI Gigabit Ethernet NIC >>> Kernel driver in use: r8169 >>> Kernel modules: r8169 >>> 01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880B [AudioPCI] (rev 02) >>> Subsystem: Ensoniq Sound Blaster 16PCI 4.1ch >>> Kernel driver in use: ENS1371 >>> Kernel modules: snd-ens1371 >>> 01:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB82AA2 IEEE-1394b Link Layer Controller (rev 01) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8N Ultra-9 Mainboard >>> Kernel modules: firewire-ohci >>> 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 0x3e50 [Radeon X600] >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 2100 >>> Kernel driver in use: radeon >>> Kernel modules: radeon, radeonfb >>> 05:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600] (Secondary) >>> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device 2101 >>> >>> >>> On 12/18/2011 12:09 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>>> There are still possibilities… it could be the kernel driver for your sound card might need some tweaking, can you send the output of >>>> >>>> lspci -k >>>> >>>> and we'll see if there's anything we can find out. >>>> >>>> These things can be very frustrating and confusing when they don't work, especially when pulseaudio is introduced into the mess. But if we work from the bottom up we should be able to track down the problem. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 Dec 2011, at 04:15, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks to all who have tried to help me with my problem. The reason I haven't replied sooner is that I was experimenting with all possible ways to get the microphone to work.The bottom line is that it still isn't working. It must have something to do with my configuration (or lack of). I'll list what I have tried, as I said without success, and not necessarily did I try things in the order written. >>>>> I checked out my kmix configurations. There is mike 1 and mike 2 - none worked. >>>>> I even changed my OB sound card to a creative ensoniq pci one. >>>>> I uninstalled pulseaudio and the played around with various configurations. >>>>> With all of the above I tried using the mike with skype and audacity. >>>>> I guess it can't be the mike itself because it works in Windows. >>>>> So I remain confused and frustrated. >>>>> Errol >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 13:07:30 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> Message-ID: <4EF08892.8020009@gmail.com> On 18/12/11 01:39, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:03:20 PM Mark Greenwood wrote: >> That's fine, and useful. But the point is that this stuff should not be in a >> release of an operating system. It does not work, and deeply affects the >> performance of the entire system. It should not be necessary to switch off >> core features just to get a useable computer. KDE really messed this one >> up, and lessons must be learned. > > > A few months back I saw a post on a nepomuk developers blog re the fact that: > > - external interfaces were poorly or not documented and frequently changed > > - return codes/exceptions were undocumented and frequently changed > > - errors went largely unlogged and were ignored > > - logging in general was almost non-existent > > > I commented that this was a recipe for disaster - in the large corporate > projects I worked on it was essential for core services to be well documented > and *essential* for them to log every error, especially unexpected ones. It > paid off in spades when you were trying to debug weird shit happening on the > various remote and obscure setups we had to work with. > > Sure you have to keep service specifications flexible, especially in > development as new requirements/problem emerge, but you also have to be able > to say enough is enough and tie it down. And always always document and make > it transparent. > > My comment was deleted. > I was hoping that with the upgrade from the last days the situation would have improved but nope. Nepomukindexer again chewing CPU, again reindexing folder(s) I have not touched since I can not remember. From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 18:50:28 2011 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:50:28 +0100 Subject: KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: <1453575.KaBsUKykyM@gkourtev-laptop> References: <1453575.KaBsUKykyM@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: Yes, it is safe. Check also www.kde.org , you'll find the official announce and the instructions for the update. -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org Il giorno 19/dic/2011 10:44, "Georgi Kourtev" ha scritto: > Dear all, > > I got notification for KDE 4.7.4 update through the package manager, but I > don't see any announcement on kubuntu.org website. Any ideas why? Is it > OK > to update? > Thanks, > gk > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valtermura at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 19:11:36 2011 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:11:36 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <4EF08892.8020009@gmail.com> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <4EF08892.8020009@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi That's why I migrated to TB... For now. It works a charme with my Imap setup, address book works well and is synchronized with gmail contacts through an extension... Yes, it is less integrated with kde but, at this point, who cares? I need a working program. And I'm talking of a PIV 2800 mhz, 1 GB ram, 512 MB of video card... Very ancient... :) Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org Il giorno 20/dic/2011 13:09, "O. Sinclair" ha scritto: > On 18/12/11 01:39, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > >> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 10:03:20 PM Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >>> That's fine, and useful. But the point is that this stuff should not be >>> in a >>> release of an operating system. It does not work, and deeply affects the >>> performance of the entire system. It should not be necessary to switch >>> off >>> core features just to get a useable computer. KDE really messed this one >>> up, and lessons must be learned. >>> >> >> >> A few months back I saw a post on a nepomuk developers blog re the fact >> that: >> >> - external interfaces were poorly or not documented and frequently changed >> >> - return codes/exceptions were undocumented and frequently changed >> >> - errors went largely unlogged and were ignored >> >> - logging in general was almost non-existent >> >> >> I commented that this was a recipe for disaster - in the large corporate >> projects I worked on it was essential for core services to be well >> documented >> and *essential* for them to log every error, especially unexpected ones. >> It >> paid off in spades when you were trying to debug weird shit happening on >> the >> various remote and obscure setups we had to work with. >> >> Sure you have to keep service specifications flexible, especially in >> development as new requirements/problem emerge, but you also have to be >> able >> to say enough is enough and tie it down. And always always document and >> make >> it transparent. >> >> My comment was deleted. >> >> > I was hoping that with the upgrade from the last days the situation would > have improved but nope. Nepomukindexer again chewing CPU, again reindexing > folder(s) I have not touched since I can not remember. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Wed Dec 21 10:14:26 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:14:26 +0700 Subject: KDE Hang While Starts In-Reply-To: <2183258.tGX9fUkbGr@tanghus> References: <8655206.Cs80P7q2CS@tanghus> <2183258.tGX9fUkbGr@tanghus> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > Very unlikely but you can always try not to load gtk2-default-theme.rc.sh. I'm > running out of ideas for what can be the cause, sorry... I am getting frustrated too here, every time I login I should spent more time :( Here I copy-paste the ~/.xsession-errors Xsession: X session started for za at Wed Dec 21 16:56:55 WIT 2011 Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US. Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default. startkde: Starting up... Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) kbuildsycoca4 running... QPixmap::handle(): Pixmap is not an X11 class pixmap Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::Changed() QDBusConnection: name 'org.kde.kglobalaccel' had owner '' but we thought it was ':1.5' QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "" Failed to read classid file: Object not found QGraphicsLinearLayout::insertItem: cannot insert null item QGraphicsLinearLayout::insertItem: cannot insert null item Object::connect: No such slot AbstractItemView::iconSettingsChanged(int) Object::connect: No such signal QDBusAbstractInterface::Changed() Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) Object::connect: No such slot NetworkManagementService::finishInitialization() QGridLayoutEngine::addItem: Cell (1, 1) already taken link XMLID_34_ hasn't been detected! link XMLID_34_ hasn't been detected! link XMLID_36_ hasn't been detected! plasma-desktop(1916) MessageIndicator::adjustViewSize: No parentWidget for applet widget()! plasma-desktop(1916) MessageIndicator::adjustViewSize: No parentWidget for applet widget()! QGraphicsLinearLayout::insertItem: cannot insert null item QGraphicsLinearLayout::insertItem: cannot insert null item plasma-desktop(1916)/kio (KDirWatch) KDirWatchPrivate::removeEntry: doesn't know "" QImage::scaled: Image is a null image QImage::scaled: Image is a null image Object::connect: No such slot AbstractItemView::iconSettingsChanged(int) QGraphicsLinearLayout::insertItem: cannot insert null item QGraphicsLinearLayout::insertItem: cannot insert null item Object::connect: No such slot AbstractItemView::iconSettingsChanged(int) "/usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd(1893)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd(1893)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd(1893)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd(1893)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd(1893)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd(1893)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" plasma-desktop(1916)/libakonadi Akonadi::AgentManagerPrivate::createDBusInterface: AgentManager failed to get a valid AgentManager DBus interface. Error is: 1 "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner" "Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control': no such name" plasma-desktop(1916)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" plasma-desktop(1916)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) search paths: ("/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", "/usr/games", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/libexec", "/usr/libexec", "/opt/mysql/libexec", "/opt/local/lib/mysql5/bin", "/opt/mysql/sbin") Found mysql_install_db: "/usr/bin/mysql_install_db" Found mysqlcheck: "/usr/bin/mysqlcheck" X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e0026a X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x0 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e0026a X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e0026c X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0xd2a790 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e0026c X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e0026e X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0xd2a790 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e0026e X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e00270 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0xd2a790 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e00270 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e00272 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0xd2a790 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e00272 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e00274 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0xd2a790 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e00274 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e00276 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0xd2a790 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e00276 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1e00278 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0xd2a790 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1e00278 akonadi.collectionattributetable OK akonadi.collectionmimetyperelation OK akonadi.collectionpimitemrelation OK akonadi.collectiontable OK akonadi.flagtable OK akonadi.mimetypetable OK akonadi.parttable OK akonadi.pimitemflagrelation OK akonadi.pimitemtable OK akonadi.resourcetable OK akonadi.schemaversiontable OK mysql.columns_priv OK mysql.db OK mysql.event OK mysql.func OK mysql.general_log Error : You can't use locks with log tables. status : OK mysql.help_category OK mysql.help_keyword OK mysql.help_relation OK mysql.help_topic OK mysql.host OK mysql.ndb_binlog_index OK mysql.plugin OK mysql.proc OK mysql.procs_priv OK mysql.servers OK mysql.slow_log Error : You can't use locks with log tables. status : OK mysql.tables_priv OK mysql.time_zone OK mysql.time_zone_leap_second OK mysql.time_zone_name OK mysql.time_zone_transition OK mysql.time_zone_transition_type OK mysql.user OK Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" DbInitializer::run() checking table "SchemaVersionTable" checking table "ResourceTable" checking table "CollectionTable" checking table "MimeTypeTable" checking table "PimItemTable" checking table "FlagTable" checking table "PartTable" checking table "CollectionAttributeTable" checking relation "PimItemFlagRelation" checking relation "CollectionMimeTypeRelation" checking relation "CollectionPimItemRelation" DbInitializer::run() done skipping update 2 skipping update 3 skipping update 4 skipping update 8 skipping update 10 skipping update 12 skipping update 13 skipping update 14 skipping update 15 skipping update 16 skipping update 17 skipping update 18 skipping update 19 Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Nepomuk Query Server not available DataStore::unhideAllPimItems() Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" PLUGINS: "/usr/share/akonadi/agents" PLUGINS: ("akonotesresource.desktop", "birthdaysresource.desktop", "calendarsearchagent.desktop", "contactsresource.desktop", "davgroupwareresource.desktop", "icalresource.desktop", "imapresource.desktop", "invitationsagent.desktop", "kabcresource.desktop", "kcalresource.desktop", "kdeaccountsresource.desktop", "knutresource.desktop", "kolabproxyresource.desktop", "localbookmarksresource.desktop", "maildirresource.desktop", "maildispatcheragent.desktop", "mboxresource.desktop", "microblog.desktop", "mixedmaildirresource.desktop", "mtdummyresource.desktop", "nepomukcalendarfeeder.desktop", "nepomukcontactfeeder.desktop", "nepomukemailfeeder.desktop", "nepomuktagresource.desktop", "nntpresource.desktop", "notesresource.desktop", "openxchangeresource.desktop", "pop3resource.desktop", "vcarddirresource.desktop", "vcardresource.desktop") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_akonotes_resource" 1 ("Resource", "Notes") search paths: ("/usr/local/sbin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/sbin", "/usr/bin", "/sbin", "/bin", "/usr/games") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_birthdays_resource" 0 ("Resource", "Unique") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_calendarsearch_agent" 0 ("Unique", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_contacts_resource" 3 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_davgroupware_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_ical_resource" 1 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_imap_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_invitations_agent" 0 ("NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_kabc_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_kcal_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_kdeaccounts_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_knut_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_kolabproxy_resource" 0 ("Resource", "Unique") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_localbookmarks_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_maildir_resource" 1 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_maildispatcher_agent" 0 ("Unique", "Autostart") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_mbox_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_microblog_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_mailtransport_dummy_resource" 0 ("Resource", "MailTransport") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder" 0 ("Unique", "Autostart", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder" 0 ("Unique", "Autostart", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder" 0 ("Unique", "Search", "Autostart") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nepomuktag_resource" 0 ("Resource", "Virtual", "Unique", "NoConfig") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_nntp_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_notes_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_openxchange_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_pop3_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_vcarddir_resource" 0 ("Resource") PLUGINS inserting: "akonadi_vcard_resource" 0 ("Resource") Akonadi server is now operational. search paths: ("/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins", "/usr/lib/qt4/plugins", "/usr/bin", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins", "/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/", "/usr/lib/kde4/") search paths: ("/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins", "/usr/lib/qt4/plugins", "/usr/bin", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins", "/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/", "/usr/lib/kde4/") search paths: ("/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins", "/usr/lib/qt4/plugins", "/usr/bin", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins", "/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/", "/usr/lib/kde4/") search paths: ("/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins", "/usr/lib/qt4/plugins", "/usr/bin", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins", "/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/", "/usr/lib/kde4/") search paths: ("/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins", "/usr/lib/qt4/plugins", "/usr/bin", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins", "/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/", "/usr/lib/kde4/") search paths: ("/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/", "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/plugins", "/usr/lib/qt4/plugins", "/usr/bin", "/usr/lib/kde4/plugins", "/home/za/.kde/lib/kde4/", "/usr/lib/kde4/") Known subscriber "AkonadiAgentServer" subscribes again void Akonadi::NotificationSource::addClientServiceName(const QString&) Notification source "AkonadiAgentServer" now serving: (":1.25", ":1.26") Known subscriber "AkonadiAgentServer" subscribes again void Akonadi::NotificationSource::addClientServiceName(const QString&) Notification source "AkonadiAgentServer" now serving: (":1.25", ":1.26", ":1.30") Known subscriber "AkonadiAgentServer" subscribes again void Akonadi::NotificationSource::addClientServiceName(const QString&) Notification source "AkonadiAgentServer" now serving: (":1.25", ":1.26", ":1.30", ":1.27") Known subscriber "AkonadiAgentServer" subscribes again void Akonadi::NotificationSource::addClientServiceName(const QString&) Notification source "AkonadiAgentServer" now serving: (":1.25", ":1.26", ":1.30", ":1.27", ":1.28") Known subscriber "AkonadiAgentServer" subscribes again void Akonadi::NotificationSource::addClientServiceName(const QString&) Notification source "AkonadiAgentServer" now serving: (":1.25", ":1.26", ":1.30", ":1.27", ":1.28", ":1.29") Agent instance created in separate process. Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Agent instance created in separate process. Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Agent instance created in separate process. Agent instance created in separate process. Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Agent instance created in separate process. Agent instance created in separate process. "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_calendar_feeder(1976)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" Known subscriber "akonadi_maildispatcher_agent" subscribes again Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Known subscriber "akonadi_maildispatcher_agent" subscribes again "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(1977)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" Nepomuk server already running. Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder(1978)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Nepomuk server already running. Database "akonadi" opened using driver "QMYSQL" Nepomuk server already running. QDBusObjectPath: invalid path "/modules/muon-notifier" kded(1814): The kded module name ' "muon-notifier" ' is invalid! /usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__' module in '' New PolkitAgentListener 0x1412900 Adding new listener PolkitQt1::Agent::Listener(0x1564000) for 0x1412900 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c00142 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x0 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c00142 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c00144 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x9d0830 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c00144 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c00146 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x9d0830 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c00146 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c00148 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x9d0830 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c00148 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c0014a X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x9d0830 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c0014a X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c0014c X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x9d0830 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c0014c X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c0014e X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x9d0830 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c0014e X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x3c00150 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x9d0830 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 149 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x3c00150 QGridLayoutEngine::addItem: Cell (0, 1) already taken QGridLayoutEngine::addItem: Cell (1, 1) already taken QGraphicsLinearLayout::removeAt: invalid index 1 kmix(2076) sink_input_cb: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and thus handled by the Event slider kmix(2076) sink_input_cb: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and thus handled by the Event slider kmix(2076) sink_input_cb: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and thus handled by the Event slider [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Using Virtuoso Version: "6.1.3.3127-pthreads" Using Virtuoso Version: "6.1.3.3127-pthreads" void Soprano::VirtuosoController::writeConfigFile(const QString&, const BackendSettings&) "/tmp/virtuoso_kn2020.ini" Starting Virtuoso server: "/usr/bin/virtuoso-t" ("+foreground", "+configfile", "/tmp/virtuoso_kn2020.ini", "+wait") "/usr/bin/krunner(2047)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject - No such object path '/org/soprano/Server'" "/usr/bin/krunner(2047)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/krunner(2047)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject - No such object path '/org/soprano/Server'" "/usr/bin/krunner(2047)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/krunner(2047)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject - No such object path '/org/soprano/Server'" "/usr/bin/krunner(2047)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] " " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] " Wed Dec 21 2011 " "17:01:02 OpenLink Virtuoso Universal Server " "17:01:02 Version 06.01.3127-pthreads for Linux as of Aug 10 2011 " "17:01:02 uses parts of OpenSSL, PCRE, Html Tidy " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:02 Database version 3126 " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:02 Entering Lite Mode " "17:01:02 SQL Optimizer enabled (max 1000 layouts) " I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/za/.qalculate/eurofxref-daily.xml" I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/za/.qalculate/eurofxref-daily.xml" krunner(2047)/libplasma Plasma::Package::isValid: Could not find required file mainscript [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:03 Compiler unit is timed at 0.001188 msec " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:04 Roll forward started " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:04 3 transactions, 205 bytes replayed (100 %) " "17:01:04 Roll forward complete " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:04 Checkpoint started " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:04 Checkpoint finished, log reused " [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "17:01:06 Server online at 1111 (pid 2111) " Virtuoso started: 2111 [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::ConnectionPool::ConnectionPool(const QString&, const QStringList&, QObject*) "host=localhost:1111;uid=dba;pwd=dba;driver=/usr/lib/odbc/virtodbc_r.so" [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() QThread(0x10b0790) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "SQLGetData for data length failed (iODBC Error: [OpenLink][Virtuoso iODBC Driver]CL056: Bookmarks not enable for statement)" [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] bool Soprano::Virtuoso::DatabaseConfigurator::updateFulltextIndexRules(bool) empty rule name! [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] virtual Soprano::ODBC::Connection::~Connection() QThread(0x10b0790) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() QThread(0x10b0790) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() Nepomuk::GraphMaintainer(0x12772a0) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] virtual Soprano::ODBC::Connection::~Connection() Nepomuk::GraphMaintainer(0x12772a0) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() QThread(0x14643c0) virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 1 virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 2 virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 3 virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 4 [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 5 [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() Soprano::Server::ServerConnection(0x1836760) Akonadi::NepomukSearchEngine(0x1cd8c30) QDBusServiceWatcher(0x1cd9030) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 6 virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 7 [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] virtual void Soprano::Server::LocalServer::incomingConnection(quintptr) void Soprano::Server::ServerCorePrivate::addConnection(Soprano::Server::ServerConnection*) New connection. New count: 8 Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() Soprano::Server::ServerConnection(0x7f787c002630) virtual void Soprano::Server::ServerConnection::run() thread done. virtual Soprano::ODBC::Connection::~Connection() Soprano::Server::ServerConnection(0x7f787c002630) void Soprano::Server::ServerCore::serverConnectionFinished() virtual Soprano::Server::ServerConnection::~ServerConnection() Removing connection void Soprano::Server::ServerCore::serverConnectionFinished() Connection removed. Current count: 7 virtual Soprano::ODBC::Connection::~Connection() QThread(0x14643c0) kmix(2076) sink_input_cb: Ignoring sink-input due to it being designated as an event and thus handled by the Event slider Passing the event to the search view QKeyEvent(KeyPress, 1000004, 0, "" "", false, 1) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() QThread(0x7f787c034130) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swx' does not exist." [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] Soprano::ODBC::Connection::Connection() QThread(0x7f787c00cde0) [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swo' does not exist." [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swx' does not exist." [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swo' does not exist." [2308:2308:807298241:ERROR:CONSOLE(6196)] "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'checked' of null", source: chrome://settings/options_bundle.js (6196) kwalletd(1920)/kdeui (Wallet) KWalletD::setupDialog: Application ' "Google Chrome" ' using kwallet without parent window! kwalletd(1920)/kdeui (Wallet) KWalletD::setupDialog: Application ' "Google Chrome" ' using kwallet without parent window! QPixmap::scaled: Pixmap is a null pixmap [2308:2389:854157304:ERROR:x509_certificate_nss.cc(811)] CERT_PKIXVerifyCert for www.google.com failed err=-8181 [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swx' does not exist." [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swo' does not exist." [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swp' does not exist." [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swx' does not exist." [/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub(2020)" Soprano: "Invalid argument (1)": "Cannot store information about non-existing local files. File '/home/za/.xsession-errors.swp' does not exist." -- Zaki Akhmad From he at 9y.com Wed Dec 21 10:29:19 2011 From: he at 9y.com (Hendrik Elsner) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:29:19 +0100 Subject: Can't run UNetbootin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A more elegant workaround for kubuntu is to change the application shortcut command. - Right-click the menu-icon and click on "Edit Applications..." to open KDE Menu Editor. - On the Application list expand the System-category and select UNetbootin. - Change the Command to "kdesu /usr/bin/unetbootin" (without quotes) essentially adding "kdesu ". And you're done. This solution also works with other similar problems with programs requesting root authorization. >I've had the same problem. 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Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot, Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From info at alvin.be Wed Dec 21 12:05:17 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:05:17 +0100 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <7746448.BZIa8qAuC8@steve-aspire> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <7746448.BZIa8qAuC8@steve-aspire> Message-ID: <28182426.fA2PPPU3so@pc-alvin> On Saturday 17 December 2011 20:46:38 Steve Riley wrote: > I suspect some of bloat, and a contributor to the claims that KDE "feels > slow," has to do with the sheer number of databases. I'm experimenting with > building a KDE system by hand. So far, three separate databases are > installed: > > * MySQL for Akonadi > * Sqlite for Quassel > * Virtuoso for Nepomuk > > Quassel is hardcoded to depend on Sqlite. Akonadi can be switched to that as > well, but some docs on KDE.org warn against that, claiming performance will > suffer. Nepomuk is similarly wedded to Virtuoso through Soprano. Surely > there has to be a better way. You forgot *Digikam* and *Amarok*. I'm running quassel in the client-server setup with postgres as backend, left Amarok alone and use postgres for Akonadi. Unfortunately, that doesn't help much. Virtuoso is the real offender here. I don't understand what it indexes. Search in Kmail doesn't work anyway. It never returns any results. I'm in the same boat as O. Sinclair. I /like/ Kontact (and even the Akonadi idea). The features are perfect, but the bugs are too numerous and performance is very, very bad. Here's to hope! From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 21 13:42:03 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:42:03 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <28182426.fA2PPPU3so@pc-alvin> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <7746448.BZIa8qAuC8@steve-aspire> <28182426.fA2PPPU3so@pc-alvin> Message-ID: <4EF1E22B.9090800@gmail.com> On 21/12/11 14:05, Alvin wrote: > On Saturday 17 December 2011 20:46:38 Steve Riley wrote: >> I suspect some of bloat, and a contributor to the claims that KDE "feels >> slow," has to do with the sheer number of databases. I'm experimenting with >> building a KDE system by hand. So far, three separate databases are >> installed: >> >> * MySQL for Akonadi >> * Sqlite for Quassel >> * Virtuoso for Nepomuk >> >> Quassel is hardcoded to depend on Sqlite. Akonadi can be switched to that as >> well, but some docs on KDE.org warn against that, claiming performance will >> suffer. Nepomuk is similarly wedded to Virtuoso through Soprano. Surely >> there has to be a better way. > > You forgot *Digikam* and *Amarok*. > I'm running quassel in the client-server setup with postgres as backend, left > Amarok alone and use postgres for Akonadi. > > Unfortunately, that doesn't help much. Virtuoso is the real offender here. I > don't understand what it indexes. Search in Kmail doesn't work anyway. It > never returns any results. > > I'm in the same boat as O. Sinclair. I /like/ Kontact (and even the Akonadi > idea). The features are perfect, but the bugs are too numerous and performance > is very, very bad. > > Here's to hope! > Happy to hear I am not the only one, watching Nepomuk again reindexing my mp3 files - must be 3rd or 4th time in 48 hours. And as I understand strigi is the "underlying" indexer here - but the chain is so complex it is more than easy to lose track. From clay at claydoh.com Wed Dec 21 14:42:43 2011 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:42:43 -0500 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <28182426.fA2PPPU3so@pc-alvin> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <7746448.BZIa8qAuC8@steve-aspire> <28182426.fA2PPPU3so@pc-alvin> Message-ID: <008bf7ac-fea8-40e9-ac2f-d0b940feb8e8@email.android.com> Alvin wrote: >On Saturday 17 December 2011 20:46:38 Steve Riley wrote: >> I suspect some of bloat, and a contributor to the claims that KDE >"feels >> slow," has to do with the sheer number of databases. I'm >experimenting with >> building a KDE system by hand. So far, three separate databases are >> installed: >> >> * MySQL for Akonadi >> * Sqlite for Quassel >> * Virtuoso for Nepomuk >> >> Quassel is hardcoded to depend on Sqlite. Akonadi can be switched to >that as >> well, but some docs on KDE.org warn against that, claiming >performance will >> suffer. Nepomuk is similarly wedded to Virtuoso through Soprano. >Surely >> there has to be a better way. > >You forgot *Digikam* and *Amarok*. >I'm running quassel in the client-server setup with postgres as >backend, left >Amarok alone and use postgres for Akonadi. > >Unfortunately, that doesn't help much. Virtuoso is the real offender >here. I >don't understand what it indexes. Search in Kmail doesn't work anyway. >It >never returns any results. > >I'm in the same boat as O. Sinclair. I /like/ Kontact (and even the >Akonadi >idea). The features are perfect, but the bugs are too numerous and >performance >is very, very bad. > >Here's to hope! > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Nepomuk isn't the database, akonadi is using an embedded mySQL DB, but can use normal mySQL. (not that this is any less confusing) I looked at using sqlite for akonadi but it was buggy as hell, and no good way to convert between DB's. Has anyone upgraded to 4.7.3 or .4? With the exception of spam filters, ask of my many errors and warnings are now gone with the recent nepomuk updates. -- Clay Weber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Akonadi can be switched to >>that as >>> well, but some docs on KDE.org warn against that, claiming >>performance will >>> suffer. Nepomuk is similarly wedded to Virtuoso through Soprano. >>Surely >>> there has to be a better way. >> >>You forgot *Digikam* and *Amarok*. >>I'm running quassel in the client-server setup with postgres as >>backend, left >>Amarok alone and use postgres for Akonadi. >> >>Unfortunately, that doesn't help much. Virtuoso is the real offender >>here. I >>don't understand what it indexes. Search in Kmail doesn't work anyway. >>It >>never returns any results. >> >>I'm in the same boat as O. Sinclair. I /like/ Kontact (and even the >>Akonadi >>idea). The features are perfect, but the bugs are too numerous and >>performance >>is very, very bad. >> >>Here's to hope! >> >>-- >>kubuntu-users mailing list >>kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > >Nepomuk isn't the database, akonadi is using an embedded mySQL DB, but >can use normal mySQL. (not that this is any less confusing) >I looked at using sqlite for akonadi but it was buggy as hell, and no >good way to convert between DB's. > >Has anyone upgraded to 4.7.3 or .4? With the exception of spam filters, >ask of my many errors and warnings are now gone with the recent nepomuk >updates. >-- >Clay Weber-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Also the re-indexing bug WA fixed as well -- Clay Weber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From china.listas at gmail.com Wed Dec 21 15:42:55 2011 From: china.listas at gmail.com (China) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:42:55 -0200 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <1ce990df-786a-492a-8d14-16b5a87bc7e0@email.android.com> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <7746448.BZIa8qAuC8@steve-aspire> <28182426.fA2PPPU3so@pc-alvin> <008bf7ac-fea8-40e9-ac2f-d0b940feb8e8@email.android.com> <1ce990df-786a-492a-8d14-16b5a87bc7e0@email.android.com> Message-ID: All; I don't use kdepim, amarok, kmail or other aplication requered by nepomuk/akonadi. Can I disable the nepomuk/akonadi? How to do is???? 2011/12/21 Clay Weber : > Clay Weber wrote: >> >> Alvin wrote: >>> >>> On Saturday 17 December 2011 20:46:38 Steve Riley wrote: >>> > I suspect some of bloat, and a contributor to the claims that KDE >>> > "feels >>> > slow," has to do with the sheer number of databases. I'm experimenting >>> > with >>> > building a KDE system by hand. So far, three separate databases are >>> > installed: >>> > >>> > * MySQL for Akonadi >>> > * Sqlite for Quassel >>> > * Virtuoso for Nepomuk >>> > >>> > Quassel is hardcoded to depend on Sqlite. Akonadi can be switched to >>> > that as >>> > well, but some docs on KDE.org warn against that, claiming performance >>> > will >>> > suffer. Nepomuk is similarly wedded to Virtuoso through Soprano. Surely >>> > there has to be a better way. >>> >>> You forgot *Digikam* and *Amarok*. >>> I'm running quassel in the client-server setup with postgres as backend, >>> left >>> Amarok alone and use postgres for Akonadi. >>> >>> Unfortunately, that doesn't help much. Virtuoso is the real offender >>> here. I >>> don't understand what it indexes. Search in Kmail doesn't work anyway. It >>> never returns any results. >>> >>> I'm in the same boat as O. Sinclair. I /like/ Kontact (and even the >>> Akonadi >>> idea). The features are perfect, but the bugs are too numerous and >>> performance >>> is very, very bad. >>> >>> Here's to hope! >> >> >> Nepomuk isn't the database, akonadi is using an embedded mySQL DB, but can >> use normal mySQL. (not that this is any less confusing) >> I looked at using sqlite for akonadi but it was buggy as hell, and no good >> way to convert between DB's. >> >> Has anyone upgraded to 4.7.3 or .4? With the exception of spam filters, >> ask of my many errors and warnings are now gone with the recent nepomuk >> updates. > > > Also the re-indexing bug WA fixed as well > -- > Clay Weber > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- -- @chinabhz From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 21 17:06:26 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:06:26 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Dooble Web Browser 1.26 - Ubuntu DEBs In-Reply-To: <20111220200946.169710@gmx.net> References: <20111220200946.169710@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201112211806.26519.kassube@gmx.net> thomasasta at gmx.net wrote: > Dooble open source Web Browser has Ubuntu DEBs now: > Can someone add them to the official repos? Look at this page for the procedure: Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 06:29:47 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:29:47 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <1ce990df-786a-492a-8d14-16b5a87bc7e0@email.android.com> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <7746448.BZIa8qAuC8@steve-aspire> <28182426.fA2PPPU3so@pc-alvin> <008bf7ac-fea8-40e9-ac2f-d0b940feb8e8@email.android.com> <1ce990df-786a-492a-8d14-16b5a87bc7e0@email.android.com> Message-ID: <4EF2CE5B.3070501@gmail.com> On 21/12/11 17:13, Clay Weber wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > Alvin wrote: > > On Saturday 17 December 2011 20:46:38 Steve Riley wrote: > > I suspect some of bloat, and a contributor to the claims that KDE "feels > > slow," has to do with the sheer number of databases. I'm experimenting with > > building a KDE system by hand. So far, three separate databases are > > installed: > > > > * MySQL for Akonadi > > * Sqlite for Quassel > > * Virtuoso for Nepomuk > > > > Quassel is hardcoded to depend on Sqlite. Akonadi can be switched to that as > > well, but some docs onKDE.org warn against that, claiming performance will > > suffer. Nepomuk is similarly wedded to Virtuoso through Soprano. Surely > > there has to be a better way. > > You forgot *Digikam* and *Amarok*. > I'm running quassel in the client-server setup with postgres as backend, left > Amarok alone and use postgres for Akonadi. > > Unfortunately, that doesn't help much. Virtuoso is the real offender here. I > don't understand what it indexes. Search in Kmail doesn't work anyway. It > never returns any results. > > I'm in the same boat as O. Sinclair. I /like/ Kontact (and even the Akonadi > idea). The features are perfect, but the bugs are too numerous and performance > is very, very bad. > > Here's to hope! > > > Nepomuk isn't the database, akonadi is using an embedded mySQL DB, > but can use normal mySQL. (not that this is any less confusing) > I looked at using sqlite for akonadi but it was buggy as hell, and > no good way to convert between DB's. > > Has anyone upgraded to 4.7.3 or .4? With the exception of spam > filters, ask of my many errors and warnings are now gone with the > recent nepomuk updates. > > > Also the re-indexing bug WA fixed as well > -- > Clay Weber > > I am on 4.7.4 but the #*! reindexing continues - and some search etc not working as I expect it. What you mean by WA?? From loic.grobol at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 13:23:09 2011 From: loic.grobol at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Grobol?=) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:23:09 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 Message-ID: Hello, all I have made the upgrade from the ppa and saw it deleted plasma-workspace. I supposed it was for some kind of replacement so I didn't bother. But now all I get when logging to gui is a black screen with the mouse pointer only. I logged to a terminal and try to install back plasma. apt-get won't do it and doesn't find kde-workspace either. I obviously want to get back some gui, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Loïc. -- Loïc Grobol. M1 Mathématiques AMA. Faculté des sciences, Orléans La Source. M1 Linguistique LAASTIC. Faculté de lettres, langues et sciences humaines, Orléans La Source. From thomas at tanghus.net Thu Dec 22 13:46:28 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:46:28 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6417991.drAtPjMTxI@tanghus> On Thursday 22 December 2011 14:23 Loïc Grobol wrote: > Hello, all > > I have made the upgrade from the ppa and saw it deleted > plasma-workspace. I supposed it was for some kind of replacement so I > didn't bother. But now all I get when logging to gui is a black screen > with the mouse pointer only. I logged to a terminal and try to install > back plasma. apt-get won't do it and doesn't find kde-workspace > either. > > I obviously want to get back some gui, so any help would be greatly > appreciated. Did you happen to have the beta ppa enabled? I saw that it was to do the same and traced it down to that. If you can't get to a console using Ctrl-Alt-F1 then boot up in recovery mode. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-beta-oneiric.list and comment out the repository: # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu oneiric main Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade' followed by 'sudo apt- get install kde-workspace' [*] and reboot. Your "upgrade" probably deleted some other packages you will need to re-install. [*] If you're booted in recovery mode 'sudo' isn't necessary. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From loic.grobol at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 14:15:32 2011 From: loic.grobol at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Grobol?=) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:15:32 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: <6417991.drAtPjMTxI@tanghus> References: <6417991.drAtPjMTxI@tanghus> Message-ID: Hey, thanks a lot, I had indeed activated the beta ppa, but as far as I can see, commenting it out did nothing. apt-get safe-upgrade doesn't seem to be a valid command (mistaken for aptitude safe-upgrade, perhaps?), upgrade only installed some amarok packages and kde-workspace can't be installed. > sudo apt-get install kde-workspace Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : kde-workspace : Dépend: kde-workspace-bin (>= 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) mais ne sera pas installé E: impossible de corriger les problèmes, des paquets défecteux sont en mode « garder en l'état » kde-workspace depends of kde-workspace-bin (>= 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) but will not be installed E: can't solve issues, corrupted(?) packages are in “keep as is”(?) mode 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : > On Thursday 22 December 2011 14:23 Loïc Grobol wrote: >> Hello, all >> >> I have made the upgrade from the ppa and saw it deleted >> plasma-workspace. I supposed it was for some kind of replacement so I >> didn't bother. But now all I get when logging to gui is a black screen >> with the mouse pointer only. I logged to a terminal and try to install >> back plasma. apt-get won't do it and doesn't find kde-workspace >> either. >> >> I obviously want to get back some gui, so any help would be greatly >> appreciated. > > Did you happen to have the beta ppa enabled? I saw that it was to do the same > and traced it down to that. If you can't get to a console using Ctrl-Alt-F1 > then boot up in recovery mode. > > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-beta-oneiric.list > > and comment out the repository: > > # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu oneiric main > > Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade' followed by 'sudo apt- > get install kde-workspace' [*] and reboot. Your "upgrade" probably deleted > some other packages you will need to re-install. > > [*] If you're booted in recovery mode 'sudo' isn't necessary. > > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Loïc Grobol. M1 Mathématiques AMA. Faculté des sciences, Orléans La Source. M1 Linguistique LAASTIC. Faculté de lettres, langues et sciences humaines, Orléans La Source. From thomas at tanghus.net Thu Dec 22 14:35:50 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:35:50 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: References: <6417991.drAtPjMTxI@tanghus> Message-ID: <4045175.97hr2kjTY3@tanghus> On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:15 Loïc Grobol wrote: > Hey, thanks a lot, > > I had indeed activated the beta ppa, but as far as I can see, > commenting it out did nothing. apt-get safe-upgrade doesn't seem to be > a valid command (mistaken for aptitude safe-upgrade, perhaps?), > upgrade only installed some amarok packages and kde-workspace can't be > installed. Yeah, mistaken for aptitude command which I normally use. Some years ago aptitude wasn't installed per default, but I can see it is now. Did you run safe-upgrade? Try to run 'apt-cache policy' against kde-workspace and kde-workspace-bin. Mine says: $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-bin: Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 Version table: *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 Packages 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace kde-workspace: Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 Version table: *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 Packages 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages > > > sudo apt-get install kde-workspace > > Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : > kde-workspace : Dépend: kde-workspace-bin (>= > 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) mais ne sera pas installé > E: impossible de corriger les problèmes, des paquets défecteux sont > en mode « garder en l'état » > > kde-workspace depends of kde-workspace-bin (>= > 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) but will not be installed > E: can't solve issues, corrupted(?) packages are in “keep as is”(?) mode > > 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : > > On Thursday 22 December 2011 14:23 Loïc Grobol wrote: > >> Hello, all > >> > >> I have made the upgrade from the ppa and saw it deleted > >> plasma-workspace. I supposed it was for some kind of replacement so I > >> didn't bother. But now all I get when logging to gui is a black screen > >> with the mouse pointer only. I logged to a terminal and try to install > >> back plasma. apt-get won't do it and doesn't find kde-workspace > >> either. > >> > >> I obviously want to get back some gui, so any help would be greatly > >> appreciated. > > > > Did you happen to have the beta ppa enabled? I saw that it was to do the > > same and traced it down to that. If you can't get to a console using > > Ctrl-Alt-F1 then boot up in recovery mode. > > > > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-beta-oneiric.list > > > > and comment out the repository: > > > > # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu oneiric main > > > > Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade' followed by 'sudo > > apt- get install kde-workspace' [*] and reboot. Your "upgrade" probably > > deleted some other packages you will need to re-install. > > > > [*] If you're booted in recovery mode 'sudo' isn't necessary. > > > > -- > > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > > > Thomas Olsen > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From loic.grobol at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 14:46:02 2011 From: loic.grobol at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Grobol?=) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:46:02 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: <4045175.97hr2kjTY3@tanghus> References: <6417991.drAtPjMTxI@tanghus> <4045175.97hr2kjTY3@tanghus> Message-ID: Ah, no, I usually use apt-get, but apt-get upgrade just updated amarok. Neither workspace nor workspace-bin is installed and I have the same candidates. Do you think I should try with aptitude (which I'd need to install in that case)? 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : > On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:15 Loïc Grobol wrote: >> Hey, thanks a lot, >> >> I had indeed activated the beta ppa, but as far as I can see, >> commenting it out did nothing. apt-get safe-upgrade doesn't seem to be >> a valid command (mistaken for aptitude safe-upgrade, perhaps?), >> upgrade only installed some amarok packages and kde-workspace can't be >> installed. > > Yeah, mistaken for aptitude command which I normally use. Some years ago > aptitude wasn't installed per default, but I can see it is now. Did you run > safe-upgrade? > > Try to run 'apt-cache policy' against kde-workspace and kde-workspace-bin. > Mine says: > > $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin > kde-workspace-bin: >  Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >  Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >  Version table: >  *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 >        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main > amd64 Packages >        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >     4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 > Packages >     4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages > > $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace > kde-workspace: >  Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >  Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >  Version table: >  *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 >        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main > amd64 Packages >        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >     4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 > Packages >     4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages > > >> >> > sudo apt-get install kde-workspace >> >>   Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : >>    kde-workspace : Dépend: kde-workspace-bin (>= >> 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) mais ne sera pas installé >>  E: impossible de corriger les problèmes, des paquets défecteux sont >> en mode « garder en l'état » >> >> kde-workspace depends of kde-workspace-bin (>= >> 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) but will not be installed >> E: can't solve issues, corrupted(?) packages are in “keep as is”(?) mode >> >> 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : >> > On Thursday 22 December 2011 14:23 Loïc Grobol wrote: >> >> Hello, all >> >> >> >> I have made the upgrade from the ppa and saw it deleted >> >> plasma-workspace. I supposed it was for some kind of replacement so I >> >> didn't bother. But now all I get when logging to gui is a black screen >> >> with the mouse pointer only. I logged to a terminal and try to install >> >> back plasma. apt-get won't do it and doesn't find kde-workspace >> >> either. >> >> >> >> I obviously want to get back some gui, so any help would be greatly >> >> appreciated. >> > >> > Did you happen to have the beta ppa enabled? I saw that it was to do the >> > same and traced it down to that. If you can't get to a console using >> > Ctrl-Alt-F1 then boot up in recovery mode. >> > >> > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-beta-oneiric.list >> > >> > and comment out the repository: >> > >> > # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu oneiric main >> > >> > Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade' followed by 'sudo >> > apt- get install kde-workspace' [*] and reboot. Your "upgrade" probably >> > deleted some other packages you will need to re-install. >> > >> > [*] If you're booted in recovery mode 'sudo' isn't necessary. >> > >> > -- >> > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards >> > >> > Thomas Olsen >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Loïc Grobol. M1 Mathématiques AMA. Faculté des sciences, Orléans La Source. M1 Linguistique LAASTIC. Faculté de lettres, langues et sciences humaines, Orléans La Source. From thomas at tanghus.net Thu Dec 22 15:01:27 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 16:01:27 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: References: <4045175.97hr2kjTY3@tanghus> Message-ID: <1504082.Uqq8aRoCkX@tanghus> On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:46 Loïc Grobol wrote: > Ah, no, I usually use apt-get, but apt-get upgrade just updated > amarok. Neither workspace nor workspace-bin is installed and I have > the same candidates. Do you think I should try with aptitude (which > I'd need to install in that case)? You could try to run: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver > 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : > > On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:15 Loïc Grobol wrote: > >> Hey, thanks a lot, > >> > >> I had indeed activated the beta ppa, but as far as I can see, > >> commenting it out did nothing. apt-get safe-upgrade doesn't seem to be > >> a valid command (mistaken for aptitude safe-upgrade, perhaps?), > >> upgrade only installed some amarok packages and kde-workspace can't be > >> installed. > > > > Yeah, mistaken for aptitude command which I normally use. Some years ago > > aptitude wasn't installed per default, but I can see it is now. Did you > > run safe-upgrade? > > > > Try to run 'apt-cache policy' against kde-workspace and > > kde-workspace-bin. Mine says: > > > > $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin > > kde-workspace-bin: > > Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 > > Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 > > Version table: > > *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 > > 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main > > amd64 Packages > > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 > > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 > > Packages > > 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 > > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages > > > > $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace > > kde-workspace: > > Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 > > Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 > > Version table: > > *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 > > 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main > > amd64 Packages > > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 > > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 > > Packages > > 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 > > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages > > > >> > sudo apt-get install kde-workspace > >> > >> Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : > >> kde-workspace : Dépend: kde-workspace-bin (>= > >> 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) mais ne sera pas installé > >> E: impossible de corriger les problèmes, des paquets défecteux sont > >> en mode « garder en l'état » > >> > >> kde-workspace depends of kde-workspace-bin (>= > >> 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) but will not be installed > >> E: can't solve issues, corrupted(?) packages are in “keep as is”(?) > >> mode > >> > >> 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : > >> > On Thursday 22 December 2011 14:23 Loïc Grobol wrote: > >> >> Hello, all > >> >> > >> >> I have made the upgrade from the ppa and saw it deleted > >> >> plasma-workspace. I supposed it was for some kind of replacement > >> >> so I > >> >> didn't bother. But now all I get when logging to gui is a black > >> >> screen with the mouse pointer only. I logged to a terminal and > >> >> try to install back plasma. apt-get won't do it and doesn't > >> >> find kde-workspace either. > >> >> > >> >> I obviously want to get back some gui, so any help would be > >> >> greatly > >> >> appreciated. > >> > > >> > Did you happen to have the beta ppa enabled? I saw that it was to > >> > do the same and traced it down to that. If you can't get to a > >> > console using Ctrl-Alt-F1 then boot up in recovery mode. > >> > > >> > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-beta-oneiric.list > >> > > >> > and comment out the repository: > >> > > >> > # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu oneiric > >> > main > >> > > >> > Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade' followed by > >> > 'sudo apt- get install kde-workspace' [*] and reboot. Your > >> > "upgrade" probably deleted some other packages you will need to > >> > re-install. > >> > > >> > [*] If you're booted in recovery mode 'sudo' isn't necessary. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > >> > > >> > Thomas Olsen > >> > > >> > -- > >> > kubuntu-users mailing list > >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > > > Thomas Olsen > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From loic.grobol at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 16:20:23 2011 From: loic.grobol at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Grobol?=) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:20:23 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: <1504082.Uqq8aRoCkX@tanghus> References: <4045175.97hr2kjTY3@tanghus> <1504082.Uqq8aRoCkX@tanghus> Message-ID: Hoy, at last it did work! I ran safe-upgrade --full-resolver, then after some fumbling with apt-get, it worked. Almost everything back to normal. Thanks a lot. If you happen to come near Orléans, I'd be happy to share some free beer :) Cheers, Loïc. 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : > On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:46 Loïc Grobol wrote: >> Ah, no, I usually use apt-get, but apt-get upgrade just updated >> amarok. Neither workspace nor workspace-bin is installed and I have >> the same candidates. Do you think I should try with aptitude (which >> I'd need to install in that case)? > > You could try to run: > > sudo aptitude safe-upgrade --full-resolver > >> 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : >> > On Thursday 22 December 2011 15:15 Loïc Grobol wrote: >> >> Hey, thanks a lot, >> >> >> >> I had indeed activated the beta ppa, but as far as I can see, >> >> commenting it out did nothing. apt-get safe-upgrade doesn't seem to be >> >> a valid command (mistaken for aptitude safe-upgrade, perhaps?), >> >> upgrade only installed some amarok packages and kde-workspace can't be >> >> installed. >> > >> > Yeah, mistaken for aptitude command which I normally use. Some years ago >> > aptitude wasn't installed per default, but I can see it is now. Did you >> > run safe-upgrade? >> > >> > Try to run 'apt-cache policy' against kde-workspace and >> > kde-workspace-bin. Mine says: >> > >> > $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace-bin >> > kde-workspace-bin: >> >  Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >> >  Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >> >  Version table: >> >  *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 >> >        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main >> > amd64 Packages >> >        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >> >     4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 >> >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 >> > Packages >> >     4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 >> >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages >> > >> > $ apt-cache policy kde-workspace >> > kde-workspace: >> >  Installed: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >> >  Candidate: 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 >> >  Version table: >> >  *** 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1 0 >> >        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/ oneiric/main >> > amd64 Packages >> >        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status >> >     4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu0.1 0 >> >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main amd64 >> > Packages >> >     4:4.7.1-0ubuntu5 0 >> >        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main amd64 Packages >> > >> >> > sudo apt-get install kde-workspace >> >> >> >>   Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : >> >>    kde-workspace : Dépend: kde-workspace-bin (>= >> >> 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) mais ne sera pas installé >> >>  E: impossible de corriger les problèmes, des paquets défecteux sont >> >> en mode « garder en l'état » >> >> >> >> kde-workspace depends of kde-workspace-bin (>= >> >> 4:4.7.4-0ubuntu0.1~ppa1) but will not be installed >> >> E: can't solve issues, corrupted(?) packages are in “keep as is”(?) >> >> mode >> >> >> >> 2011/12/22 Thomas Olsen : >> >> > On Thursday 22 December 2011 14:23 Loïc Grobol wrote: >> >> >> Hello, all >> >> >> >> >> >> I have made the upgrade from the ppa and saw it deleted >> >> >> plasma-workspace. I supposed it was for some kind of replacement >> >> >> so I >> >> >> didn't bother. But now all I get when logging to gui is a black >> >> >> screen with the mouse pointer only. I logged to a terminal and >> >> >> try to install back plasma. apt-get won't do it and doesn't >> >> >> find kde-workspace either. >> >> >> >> >> >> I obviously want to get back some gui, so any help would be >> >> >> greatly >> >> >> appreciated. >> >> > >> >> > Did you happen to have the beta ppa enabled? I saw that it was to >> >> > do the same and traced it down to that. If you can't get to a >> >> > console using Ctrl-Alt-F1 then boot up in recovery mode. >> >> > >> >> > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kubuntu-ppa-beta-oneiric.list >> >> > >> >> > and comment out the repository: >> >> > >> >> > # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu oneiric >> >> > main >> >> > >> >> > Run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade' followed by >> >> > 'sudo apt- get install kde-workspace' [*] and reboot. Your >> >> > "upgrade" probably deleted some other packages you will need to >> >> > re-install. >> >> > >> >> > [*] If you're booted in recovery mode 'sudo' isn't necessary. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards >> >> > >> >> > Thomas Olsen >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > >> > -- >> > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards >> > >> > Thomas Olsen >> > >> > -- >> > kubuntu-users mailing list >> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Loïc Grobol. M1 Mathématiques AMA. Faculté des sciences, Orléans La Source. M1 Linguistique LAASTIC. Faculté de lettres, langues et sciences humaines, Orléans La Source. From thomas at tanghus.net Thu Dec 22 16:55:22 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:55:22 +0100 Subject: No workspace after upgrade to KDE 4.7.4 In-Reply-To: References: <1504082.Uqq8aRoCkX@tanghus> Message-ID: <6296739.KMH6oXkxey@tanghus> On Thursday 22 December 2011 17:20 Loïc Grobol wrote: > Hoy, at last it did work! I ran safe-upgrade --full-resolver, then > after some fumbling with apt-get, it worked. Almost everything back to > normal. Thanks a lot. > > If you happen to come near Orléans, I'd be happy to share some free beer :) Glad to be able to help :-) -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri Dec 23 08:22:28 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:22:28 +0200 Subject: Network manager and Mobile connections In-Reply-To: <4ED36D82.5050407@gmail.com> References: <8115460.gXckoDOLWo@gkourtev-laptop> <14222320.Yz7P8m44Hp@gkourtev-laptop> <4ED36D82.5050407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1514609.vRYlacv1is@gkourtev-laptop> > I was told "once upon a time" to use sudo wvdial as wvdial needs access > to whatever in the system that a non-admin does not have. Right or wrong > I have no idea. > > This is my wvdial.conf (it is for CDMA modem in this case so number > differs): > [Dialer Defaults] > Init1 = ATZ > Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > Modem Type = Analog Modem > Baud = 480600 > New PPPD = yes > Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 > ISDN = 0 > Phone = #777 > Password = something.. > Username = 111 Without changing anything I decided to check whether the modem will work with KPPP dialer. And --boom -- it worked. The wvdial.conf is the same as before the upgrade. I checked now with 4.7.4 -- don't see the modem with networkmanager, nor can connect with wvdial (with or without sudo). Frankly speaking I was more comfortable when I could have use the networkmanager for connecting -- it's like one-stop-shop for connection without having to think what connection I would like to use... I'll be happy if someone can show ways of making this work again. gk From TonySivori at yahoo.com Mon Dec 26 17:09:04 2011 From: TonySivori at yahoo.com (Tony Sivori) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:09:04 -0500 Subject: Nepomuk References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> Message-ID: Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > > A few months back I saw a post on a nepomuk developers blog re the fact > that: > > - external interfaces were poorly or not documented and frequently > changed > > - return codes/exceptions were undocumented and frequently changed > > - errors went largely unlogged and were ignored > > - logging in general was almost non-existent > > > I commented that this was a recipe for disaster - in the large corporate > projects I worked on it was essential for core services to be well > documented and *essential* for them to log every error, especially > unexpected ones. It paid off in spades when you were trying to debug > weird shit happening on the various remote and obscure setups we had to > work with. > > Sure you have to keep service specifications flexible, especially in > development as new requirements/problem emerge, but you also have to be > able to say enough is enough and tie it down. And always always > document and make it transparent. > > My comment was deleted. You might want to check out this Bug Tracker link "Annoyed by 'Nepomuk Indexing Disabled' - Akonadi Agent message". While it contains little useful info, it does well illustrate the poor attitude of a hopefully tiny minority of Nepomuk / Akonadi hackers. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258171 -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Mon Dec 26 18:11:12 2011 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:11:12 -0600 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> Message-ID: <4EF8B8C0.8000903@lyonlabs.org> On 12/26/2011 11:09 AM, Tony Sivori wrote: > You might want to check out this Bug Tracker link "Annoyed by 'Nepomuk > Indexing Disabled' - Akonadi Agent message". > > While it contains little useful info, it does well illustrate the > poor attitude of a hopefully tiny minority of Nepomuk / Akonadi hackers. > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258171 There seems to be a lot of confusion about all of this. Where can one find a good, detailed description of what exactly Nepomuk, Akonadi, Strigi, Virtuoso, Soprano, &c. are, how they are interrelated, and how they are used by KDE? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From TonySivori at yahoo.com Mon Dec 26 20:31:12 2011 From: TonySivori at yahoo.com (Tony Sivori) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:31:12 -0500 Subject: Nepomuk References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <4EF8B8C0.8000903@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: Glenn Holmer wrote: > There seems to be a lot of confusion about all of this. Where can one > find a good, detailed description of what exactly Nepomuk, Akonadi, > Strigi, Virtuoso, Soprano, &c. are, how they are interrelated, and how > they are used by KDE? Nepomuk / Akonadi is part of a paradigm known as the Semantic Desktop. Semantic Desktop's goal is to index, share information, and enable tagging all across diverse applications (and file types) on your computer. I'm no expert, in fact I'm not even a user of Nepomuk / Akonadi. I'm still running Kubuntu 8.04 on my desktop computer, and I run Debian Squeeze on my laptop. My only interest in Nepomuk was how to turn it off in my Debian install, permanently. I don't even use file indexing, so you might imagine how little use I have for this piece of software. All that said, I am an out of step with the crowd kind of person. If it worked properly, I'm sure that many users would find Nepomuk / Akonadi / Semantic Desktop to be the very best thing since sliced bread. Here are some links that might explain it better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_desktop http://www.linuxforu.com/2011/09/exploring-software-nepomuk-semantic-desktop/ -- Tony Sivori From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 27 07:26:10 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:26:10 +0200 Subject: Nepomuk In-Reply-To: <4EF8B8C0.8000903@lyonlabs.org> References: <4EEC2DA1.2000502@gmail.com> <4EEC8BED.1000002@haulrich.net> <97940B71-A3D7-4C0F-8546-B28E7CAB46A7@gmail.com> <1348952.pNzOmtkE5l@lindsay-11-10> <4EF8B8C0.8000903@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <4EF97312.30003@gmail.com> On 26/12/11 20:11, Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 12/26/2011 11:09 AM, Tony Sivori wrote: >> You might want to check out this Bug Tracker link "Annoyed by 'Nepomuk >> Indexing Disabled' - Akonadi Agent message". >> >> While it contains little useful info, it does well illustrate the >> poor attitude of a hopefully tiny minority of Nepomuk / Akonadi hackers. >> >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258171 > > There seems to be a lot of confusion about all of this. Where can one > find a good, detailed description of what exactly Nepomuk, Akonadi, > Strigi, Virtuoso, Soprano,&c. are, how they are interrelated, and how > they are used by KDE? > That is not nice reading (the bug report), at least not in my opinion. And a core problem here is that, as far as I know, there IS no source with the kind of information you ask for. I am stubborn enough to use KDEPIM 4.7, or KDEPIM 2 if you so wish. After quite a few initial headaches it now works "almost as good" as the previous version. I have faith in the developers vision though I am quite uninterested in the "bling" of the semantic desktop et al. Like many users I keep my files in some sort of systematic folders. My wife does not but has everything in a big "soup". But she does not tag, index or care for all that - she just does not care. I do not personally know anyone who actually tags, indexes or "star" their files. To not make this a rant: a wiki with useful information of which part does what, how they are interconnected, what you can switch off and what functionality you then lose would really be helpful. I have, once again, switched off Strigi as I have figured out that the "nepomukindexer" constantly reindexes files I do not touch and then eat CPU like I don't know what. I can use KFind to find files, it does a better job in my opinion. I need the Addressbook searching etc. in KMail so I have kept Nepomuk on. At least for now that seems to work without eating my laptop alive. So to sum up - the Nepomukindexer seems to be "Strigi in disguise" as it disappears once you disable Strigi and Desktop Search. Best regards and hope you all had a great Christmas, Sinclair From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed Dec 28 09:44:16 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:44:16 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu running slow Message-ID: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On 2 netbooks that have been upgraded to 11.10 and are set to auto login, I am finding that everything is running slow and kwin is at over 90% until I log out and log in again and re-enable desktop effects after which it is running properly again. Also, when I log out, I have to log in twice as the first time it only gets to the 2nd icon before dumping me back to the login screen. Any ides? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also noticed the issue in 32 bit Kubuntu 11.04, also with KDE 4.7.x. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Fri Dec 30 07:45:33 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:45:33 +0700 Subject: Kubuntu running slow In-Reply-To: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Mark Fraser wrote: > On 2 netbooks that have been upgraded to 11.10 and are set to auto login, I > am finding that everything is running slow and kwin is at over 90% until I > log out and log in again and re-enable desktop effects after which it is > running properly again. Which event did you mean by slow? Is it after autologin from the KDM? Mine is worse. It took me at least 3 - 5 minutes to enter KDE after entered credential at KDM :( -- Zaki Akhmad From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Fri Dec 30 09:17:13 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:17:13 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu running slow In-Reply-To: References: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112300917.13705.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Friday 30 Dec 2011 07:45:33 Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Mark Fraser > > wrote: > > On 2 netbooks that have been upgraded to 11.10 and are set to auto login, > > I am finding that everything is running slow and kwin is at over 90% > > until I log out and log in again and re-enable desktop effects after > > which it is running properly again. > > Which event did you mean by slow? Is it after autologin from the KDM? Yes, once it had logged me into the desktop, it would take ages to respond to mouse clicks etc. > Mine is worse. 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I guess this files contribute to the long start-up time at my KDE. -- Zaki Akhmad From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Fri Dec 30 10:15:48 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:15:48 +0700 Subject: Kubuntu running slow In-Reply-To: <201112300917.13705.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201112300917.13705.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Mark Fraser wrote: > Yes, once it had logged me into the desktop, it would take ages to respond > to mouse clicks etc. What version of KDE are you using? I am using KDE 4.7.3 I think we're not alone here Bug 753716 - kde takes a long time to start https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753716 -- Zaki Akhmad From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Fri Dec 30 10:23:59 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:23:59 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu running slow In-Reply-To: References: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201112300917.13705.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <201112301024.00319.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Friday 30 Dec 2011 10:15:48 Zaki Akhmad wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Mark Fraser > > wrote: > > Yes, once it had logged me into the desktop, it would take ages to > > respond to mouse clicks etc. > > What version of KDE are you using? I am using KDE 4.7.3 > > I think we're not alone here > > Bug 753716 - kde takes a long time to start > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753716 I'm using 4.7.4 on one of the netbooks and 4.7.90 on the other. It isn't that it is taking a long time to start, but that it feels like everything is slow even after leaving it for a while and only logging out and then back in cures it. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hakan at koseoglu.org Fri Dec 30 11:08:01 2011 From: hakan at koseoglu.org (Hakan Koseoglu) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:08:01 +0000 Subject: Kubuntu running slow In-Reply-To: <201112301024.00319.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201112300917.13705.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201112301024.00319.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: On 30 December 2011 10:23, Mark Fraser wrote: > I'm using 4.7.4 on one of the netbooks and 4.7.90 on the other. It isn't > that it is taking a long time to start, but that it feels like everything is > slow even after leaving it for a while and only logging out and then back in > cures it. Try turning the mess called Nepomuk off. My logins take quite long but I have a 8GB deep wallpaper folder which KDE insists scanning every time - at least this version doesn't block everything, it just makes it slow and lets me get on with the things to a degree, previously it was a blocking action. Using a single image speeds things up significantly. The other obvious hog was the so-called semantic desktop mess. From zakiakhmad at gmail.com Fri Dec 30 11:40:17 2011 From: zakiakhmad at gmail.com (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:40:17 +0700 Subject: Kubuntu running slow In-Reply-To: References: <201112280944.17091.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201112300917.13705.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201112301024.00319.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > Try turning the mess called Nepomuk off. In my case, I've done that but still didn't solved the problem :| PS: User A needs 3 minutes while user B only need 30 seconds. I am very confused now, since this case happened to specific user. I had disabled nepomuk on user A. -- Zaki Akhmad From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Dec 31 09:01:14 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:01:14 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 Message-ID: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> In the kubuntu beta ppa for 11.10 you can now find packages for 4.8.RC1 also called 4.7.95 Be careful before you install these. I took a system backup using Remastersys and made a full backup of my /home directory (that I keep on a separate partition). On login the CPU went haywire as virtuoso-t now decided to start reindexing everything, KMail removed my filters (oh btw export your filters first) and started behaving weird on my 4 pop3-accounts. The Folder View widget made Plasma Desktop crash as soon as I tried to change any settings (the folder contents were not shown). I quickly reinstalled 4.7.4 Kindly Sinclair From fatgerman at gmail.com Sat Dec 31 11:18:31 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:18:31 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> On 31 Dec 2011, at 09:01, O. Sinclair wrote: > In the kubuntu beta ppa for 11.10 you can now find packages for 4.8.RC1 also called 4.7.95 > > Be careful before you install these. I took a system backup using Remastersys and made a full backup of my /home directory (that I keep on a separate partition). > > On login the CPU went haywire as virtuoso-t now decided to start reindexing everything, KMail removed my filters (oh btw export your filters first) and started behaving weird on my 4 pop3-accounts. > > The Folder View widget made Plasma Desktop crash as soon as I tried to change any settings (the folder contents were not shown). … There was a conflict with 'plasma-widget-kde-observatory' on installation which caused apt-get to bomb out, leaving it half installed. This took me 2 hours of swearing to fix and I still don't think it's quite right … It crashed when I first started it up because it had uninstalled the theme for the login dialog (which I hadn't changed from the default and which now seems not to exist anywhere) ….I can't reinstall 4.7.4 because ppa-purge cannot resolve the conflicts (presumably something to do with the above) … approach with caution. KDE is getting worse with every release. Mark > > I quickly reinstalled 4.7.4 > > Kindly > Sinclair > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Sat Dec 31 12:19:16 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:19:16 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201112311219.17596.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Saturday 31 Dec 2011 11:18:31 Mark Greenwood wrote: > On 31 Dec 2011, at 09:01, O. Sinclair wrote: > > In the kubuntu beta ppa for 11.10 you can now find packages for 4.8.RC1 > > also called 4.7.95 > > > > Be careful before you install these. I took a system backup using > > Remastersys and made a full backup of my /home directory (that I keep on > > a separate partition). > > > > On login the CPU went haywire as virtuoso-t now decided to start > > reindexing everything, KMail removed my filters (oh btw export your > > filters first) and started behaving weird on my 4 pop3-accounts. > > > > The Folder View widget made Plasma Desktop crash as soon as I tried to > > change any settings (the folder contents were not shown). > > … There was a conflict with 'plasma-widget-kde-observatory' on installation > which caused apt-get to bomb out, leaving it half installed. This took me > 2 hours of swearing to fix and I still don't think it's quite right … It > crashed when I first started it up because it had uninstalled the theme > for the login dialog (which I hadn't changed from the default and which > now seems not to exist anywhere) ….I can't reinstall 4.7.4 because > ppa-purge cannot resolve the conflicts (presumably something to do with > the above) > > … approach with caution. KDE is getting worse with every release. Not having any of those problems, but I seem to be unable to run Amarok as it doesn't show in the system tray even though I had that setting enabled and there is an entry in System Tray Settings called org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-1996-1/StatusNotifierItem. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jriddell at ubuntu.com Sat Dec 31 12:32:21 2011 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:32:21 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Problems with beta and RC packaging are better communicated on the developers list so we know there is a problem. The point of such packages is to get testing to find problems. > … There was a conflict with 'plasma-widget-kde-observatory' on installation which caused apt-get to bomb out, leaving it half installed. This took me 2 hours of swearing to fix and I still don't think it's quite right We don't have any package by that name. We have a "plasma-widget-kdeobservatory" so either you made a typo above or you have a package from a non-Ubuntu source. > … It crashed when I first started it up because it had uninstalled the theme for the login dialog (which I hadn't changed from the default and which now seems not to exist anywhere) Upstream changed the default and we need to add an upgrade script for the config file to change it. Ho hum. > … approach with caution. KDE is getting worse with every release. Have a good hogmanay Jonathan From fatgerman at gmail.com Sat Dec 31 13:19:29 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:19:29 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 31 Dec 2011, at 12:32, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Problems with beta and RC packaging are better communicated on the > developers list so we know there is a problem. The point of such > packages is to get testing to find problems. With respect, I've logged a lot of bugs in the past, both on kde.org and launchpad. About 30% of them get looked at and about 5% get fixed. When I spend my time and effort to help debug things and then nobody responds it doesn't encourage me to do it again. I've also had some fairly arrogant and bad-tempered responses occasionally (not from Ubuntu devs) and I'm sorry to say that if that's the attitude, then they can go jump in a volKano. This is why we're now seeing people complaining on email lists and forums instead of logging bugs. I got a response! I know somebody has read my email and I feel that I've actually contributed something now, as opposed to when I log a bug and it disappears into a black hole from which no communication can escape. I feel good about it now, instead of that 'why-do-I-bother' feeling I usually get. Thanks :) > >> … There was a conflict with 'plasma-widget-kde-observatory' on installation which caused apt-get to bomb out, leaving it half installed. This took me 2 hours of swearing to fix and I still don't think it's quite right > > We don't have any package by that name. We have a > "plasma-widget-kdeobservatory" so either you made a typo above or you > have a package from a non-Ubuntu source. Yes sorry I made a typo. plasma-widget-kdeobservatory. An updated package was trying to overwrite a file that also existed in that package, which caused apt-get to stop partway through the installation. I then had broken packages and could not uninstall the observatory package. I forget how I resolved it but it wasn't fun. :) > >> … It crashed when I first started it up because it had uninstalled the theme for the login dialog (which I hadn't changed from the default and which now seems not to exist anywhere) > > Upstream changed the default and we need to add an upgrade script for > the config file to change it. Ho hum. I'm glad it's not just me.. the number of times they change something and break all my hard-done configuration…. it's exasperating. Is anybody actually "in charge" of KDE development or is it just the free form mess it appears to be? > >> … approach with caution. KDE is getting worse with every release. > > Have a good hogmanay And to you. Mark > > Jonathan > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Dec 31 13:58:09 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:58:09 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EFF14F1.5070606@gmail.com> On 31/12/11 14:32, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Problems with beta and RC packaging are better communicated on the > developers list so we know there is a problem. The point of such > packages is to get testing to find problems. > >> … There was a conflict with 'plasma-widget-kde-observatory' on installation which caused apt-get to bomb out, leaving it half installed. This took me 2 hours of swearing to fix and I still don't think it's quite right > > We don't have any package by that name. We have a > "plasma-widget-kdeobservatory" so either you made a typo above or you > have a package from a non-Ubuntu source. > >> … It crashed when I first started it up because it had uninstalled the theme for the login dialog (which I hadn't changed from the default and which now seems not to exist anywhere) > > Upstream changed the default and we need to add an upgrade script for > the config file to change it. Ho hum. > >> … approach with caution. KDE is getting worse with every release. > > Have a good hogmanay > > Jonathan > Jonathan, I know beta is for testing. I did not in any way mean to denigrate hard work of developers or packagers. My experience just made me think "better tell others to make a very strong backup before they try this out". I can only test when things work reasonably well myself and RC1 does not seem to. I don't even know if it is a bug that virtuoso-t now have taken over from nepomukindexer as the CPU hog. And I do not mean to be sarcastic or anything. Do I file with KDE or Kubuntu? Is it packaging or a changed feature from 4.7 to 4.8? I wanted to try, unfortunately I can not use it so have to back off. Only wanted to tell other curious to make backup and backup first just in case. Respectfully, Sinclair From thomas at tanghus.net Sat Dec 31 21:09:50 2011 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Olsen) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 22:09:50 +0100 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <201112311219.17596.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> <201112311219.17596.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <2239708.2fPAjV3QSC@tanghus> On Saturday 31 December 2011 12:19 Mark Fraser wrote: > Not having any of those problems, but I seem to be unable to run Amarok as > it doesn't show in the system tray even though I had that setting enabled > and there is an entry in System Tray Settings called > org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-1996-1/StatusNotifierItem. I had this problem when I upgraded to Amarok 2.5 on KDE 4.7.4. Don't know what I did or didn't do, but now it shows up fine in the systray and the mysterious org.kde.StatusNotifierItem... has gone. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Olsen From fatgerman at gmail.com Sat Dec 31 21:27:07 2011 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:27:07 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <2239708.2fPAjV3QSC@tanghus> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <0B225C1C-D864-4F63-A3AC-8FFCF4F464A9@gmail.com> <201112311219.17596.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <2239708.2fPAjV3QSC@tanghus> Message-ID: <5F0D32F8-E300-4867-91A7-6CA74FA2C6D1@gmail.com> On 31 Dec 2011, at 21:09, Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Saturday 31 December 2011 12:19 Mark Fraser wrote: >> Not having any of those problems, but I seem to be unable to run Amarok as >> it doesn't show in the system tray even though I had that setting enabled >> and there is an entry in System Tray Settings called >> org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-1996-1/StatusNotifierItem. > > I had this problem when I upgraded to Amarok 2.5 on KDE 4.7.4. Don't know what > I did or didn't do, but now it shows up fine in the systray and the mysterious > org.kde.StatusNotifierItem... has gone. > Is anybody else noticing kmix using 100% CPU after playing music for a few minutes? Not sure if it's a genuine bug or an effect of my difficult upgrade… Mark > -- > Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards > > Thomas Olsen > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From girardhenri at free.fr Sat Dec 31 21:35:16 2011 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 22:35:16 +0100 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EFF8014.3070807@free.fr> I use it with pangolin and I find it quite quick. It's a fresh install from 4.7.95 regards Henri Le 31/12/2011 10:01, O. Sinclair a écrit : > In the kubuntu beta ppa for 11.10 you can now find packages for > 4.8.RC1 also called 4.7.95 > > Be careful before you install these. I took a system backup using > Remastersys and made a full backup of my /home directory (that I keep > on a separate partition). > > On login the CPU went haywire as virtuoso-t now decided to start > reindexing everything, KMail removed my filters (oh btw export your > filters first) and started behaving weird on my 4 pop3-accounts. > > The Folder View widget made Plasma Desktop crash as soon as I tried to > change any settings (the folder contents were not shown). > > I quickly reinstalled 4.7.4 > > Kindly > Sinclair > From rhall at lincommander.co.uk Sat Dec 31 23:47:04 2011 From: rhall at lincommander.co.uk (Rob Hall) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 23:47:04 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <5F0D32F8-E300-4867-91A7-6CA74FA2C6D1@gmail.com> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <2239708.2fPAjV3QSC@tanghus> <5F0D32F8-E300-4867-91A7-6CA74FA2C6D1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4252594.IW2cOA733s@home-dev> On Saturday 31 Dec 2011 21:27:07 Mark Greenwood wrote: > On 31 Dec 2011, at 21:09, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > On Saturday 31 December 2011 12:19 Mark Fraser wrote: > >> Not having any of those problems, but I seem to be unable to run Amarok > >> as > >> it doesn't show in the system tray even though I had that setting enabled > >> and there is an entry in System Tray Settings called > >> org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-1996-1/StatusNotifierItem. > > > > I had this problem when I upgraded to Amarok 2.5 on KDE 4.7.4. Don't know > > what I did or didn't do, but now it shows up fine in the systray and the > > mysterious org.kde.StatusNotifierItem... has gone. > > Is anybody else noticing kmix using 100% CPU after playing music for a few > minutes? Not sure if it's a genuine bug or an effect of my difficult > upgrade… I'm seeing this on two user accounts. Doesn't appear to be limited to playing music on my system. -- Regards, Rob Hall From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 31 23:50:36 2011 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:50:36 +1000 Subject: KDE 4.8 RC1 In-Reply-To: <5F0D32F8-E300-4867-91A7-6CA74FA2C6D1@gmail.com> References: <4EFECF5A.8010501@gmail.com> <2239708.2fPAjV3QSC@tanghus> <5F0D32F8-E300-4867-91A7-6CA74FA2C6D1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1671072.z64vMHzSmW@lindsay-11-10> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:27:07 PM Mark Greenwood wrote: > Is anybody else noticing kmix using 100% CPU after playing music for a few > minutes? Not sure if it's a genuine bug or an effect of my difficult > upgrade… Its a definite problem -- Lindsay