From g.lip at gmx.com Tue Feb 1 00:11:48 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 08:11:48 +0800 Subject: Kernel update broke Nvidia In-Reply-To: <4D471B6F.2070605@netspace.net.au> References: <201101271251.21504.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <201101271423.04257.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <4D471B6F.2070605@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 04:28:31 +0800, Steve Morris wrote: > Hi Goh, just one question on this front. I assume the instructions for > uninstalling/re-installing the nvidia driver are to cause dkms to > rebuild the kernel module. Has the bug that was in 10.04 where dkms > would remove the nvidia entries for all kernels and then only rebuild > the entry for the currently active kernel, been fixed? I don't know of such bug, Steve. I am now on 10.10 but when I was on 10.04, I did not encounter any problem either. Can you link the bug that you mentioned? It might help others who may have the problem and they can follow or add further. Regards - Goh Lip From tomh0665 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 00:58:51 2011 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:58:51 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201101311821.00378.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311419.38697.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311821.00378.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:21 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, January 31, 2011 05:54:33 pm Tom H did opine: >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:19 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> > On Monday, January 31, 2011 02:18:25 pm Tom H did opine: >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:46 AM, gene heskett > wrote: >> >> > I do the 99.999999999% of my email activities from a nice comfy >> >> > chair, in a nice comfy heated house. >> >> > >> >> > The machine in the shop runs 24/7 though, so it is 'mounted' as a >> >> > cifs share, and this is where the PIMA starts. >> >> > >> >> > Because the *buntu's start their user number schemes at 1000, >> >> > whereas the rest of the known universe starts at 500, even though >> >> > I am the user gene on both boxes, I have no write perms via cifs >> >> > in the /home/gene tree on the milling machines kubuntu install. >> >> > >> >> > So that I can save a useful bit of rs-274 nc code directly from an >> >> > email received on this machine, directly to the >> >> > /home/gene/emc/nc_files directory on that *buntu box in the shop, >> >> > what then is the std procedure to establish that the user gene=500 >> >> > on this box, is the user gene=1000 on that box? >> >> >> >> The "UID_MIN 1000" setting is a Debianism that you can modify in >> >> "/etc/login.defs". >> > >> > As that is set at install time, from read-only media, that doesn't >> > sound practical to do now. >> >> You can boot into single user mode and do either of the following: >> >> 1. Delete the user created at install, modify "/etc/login.defs", and >> re-create the user. (Only useful at first boot!) >> > That was 6 months and a lot of carved steel before. :) > >> 2. Modify the uid of the user,  modify "/etc/login.defs", and chown >> the user's home directory recursively with the new uid. > > In this order?  I am currently ssh -Y'd into that box and I'd hate doing > half of it and being locked out.  So, I first modified /etc/adduser.conf, > then /etc/group, finally /etc/passwd (all as sudo -i), then cd'd to /home > and did the chown -R gene:gene gene bit.  A couple of ls -l's seem to > indicate it all worked.  Backed out of the sudo with a ctrl-d. But emc > wouldn't run, something about a BadWindow error. Sudo reboot, & close the > link.  Waited for a ping to work then it took 3 passes before it bought my > password again, but I'm back in with an "ssh -Y shop" as gene on this box. > > But, emc still has a tummy ache over X and exits.  Humm, that box was > sitting at a local login prompt when I started, and is sitting there again > as I doubt my ssh login starts the x server. > > Does that fit with this error exit on emc's part? > > gene at shop:~$ cd emc2 > gene at shop:~/emc2$ emc -l > EMC2 - 2.4.6 > Machine configuration directory is '/home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill' > Machine configuration file is 'genes-mill.ini' > Starting EMC2... > X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) >  Major opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) >  Resource id in failed request:  0xffffffff >  Serial number of failed request:  749 >  Current serial number in output stream:  750 > Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2... > Cleanup done > EMC terminated with an error.  You can find more information in the log: >    /home/gene/emc_debug.txt > and >    /home/gene/emc_print.txt > as well as in the output of the shell command 'dmesg' and in the terminal > > Or have I royally screwed the moose here? Royally, I don't think so. Screwed the moose, possibly. I definitely wouldn't have made these changes with an X session open, especially not a gene X session. Also I would've used 500 rather than gene for the chmod. I don't know what more to say, especially since I have no idea what "emc -l" is or does. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue Feb 1 01:15:48 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:15:48 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201101311859.18986.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311834.49608.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201101311859.18986.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201101312015.48137.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday, January 31, 2011, gene heskett wrote: > Its a bad habit that I've been catching hell about on various lists since > about RH5.1 IIRC. And I'm gradually getting away from it. Typu's can't > do near as much damage if one is a normal user. The debian derivatives > will do everything but pee on your shoes to discourage it. Yeh, I know the "permissions police" will beat you with a stick, but I prefer to do things my way..... The first thing I do when installing a *buntu release is to provide root with a password. From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Feb 1 01:37:00 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:37:00 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311821.00378.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201101312037.01054.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday, January 31, 2011 08:08:28 pm Tom H did opine: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:21 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > On Monday, January 31, 2011 05:54:33 pm Tom H did opine: > >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:19 PM, gene heskett wrote: > >> > On Monday, January 31, 2011 02:18:25 pm Tom H did opine: > >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:46 AM, gene heskett > > > > wrote: > >> >> > I do the 99.999999999% of my email activities from a nice comfy > >> >> > chair, in a nice comfy heated house. > >> >> > > >> >> > The machine in the shop runs 24/7 though, so it is 'mounted' as > >> >> > a cifs share, and this is where the PIMA starts. > >> >> > > >> >> > Because the *buntu's start their user number schemes at 1000, > >> >> > whereas the rest of the known universe starts at 500, even > >> >> > though I am the user gene on both boxes, I have no write perms > >> >> > via cifs in the /home/gene tree on the milling machines kubuntu > >> >> > install. > >> >> > > >> >> > So that I can save a useful bit of rs-274 nc code directly from > >> >> > an email received on this machine, directly to the > >> >> > /home/gene/emc/nc_files directory on that *buntu box in the > >> >> > shop, what then is the std procedure to establish that the user > >> >> > gene=500 on this box, is the user gene=1000 on that box? > >> >> > >> >> The "UID_MIN 1000" setting is a Debianism that you can modify in > >> >> "/etc/login.defs". > >> > > >> > As that is set at install time, from read-only media, that doesn't > >> > sound practical to do now. > >> > >> You can boot into single user mode and do either of the following: > >> > >> 1. Delete the user created at install, modify "/etc/login.defs", and > >> re-create the user. (Only useful at first boot!) > > > > That was 6 months and a lot of carved steel before. :) > > > >> 2. Modify the uid of the user, �modify "/etc/login.defs", and chown > >> the user's home directory recursively with the new uid. > > > > In this order? �I am currently ssh -Y'd into that box and I'd hate > > doing half of it and being locked out. �So, I first modified > > /etc/adduser.conf, then /etc/group, finally /etc/passwd (all as sudo > > -i), then cd'd to /home and did the chown -R gene:gene gene bit. �A > > couple of ls -l's seem to indicate it all worked. �Backed out of the > > sudo with a ctrl-d. But emc wouldn't run, something about a BadWindow > > error. Sudo reboot, & close the link. �Waited for a ping to work then > > it took 3 passes before it bought my password again, but I'm back in > > with an "ssh -Y shop" as gene on this box. > > > > But, emc still has a tummy ache over X and exits. �Humm, that box was > > sitting at a local login prompt when I started, and is sitting there > > again as I doubt my ssh login starts the x server. > > > > Does that fit with this error exit on emc's part? > > > > gene at shop:~$ cd emc2 > > gene at shop:~/emc2$ emc -l > > EMC2 - 2.4.6 > > Machine configuration directory is > > '/home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill' Machine configuration file is > > 'genes-mill.ini' > > Starting EMC2... > > X Error of failed request: �BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > �Major opcode of failed request: �3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) > > �Resource id in failed request: �0xffffffff > > �Serial number of failed request: �749 > > �Current serial number in output stream: �750 > > Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2... > > Cleanup done > > EMC terminated with an error. �You can find more information in the > > log: � �/home/gene/emc_debug.txt > > and > > � �/home/gene/emc_print.txt > > as well as in the output of the shell command 'dmesg' and in the > > terminal > > > > Or have I royally screwed the moose here? > > Royally, I don't think so. Screwed the moose, possibly. > > I definitely wouldn't have made these changes with an X session open, > especially not a gene X session. > I don't think an x session existed, the machines own console was sittin at the user's login screen after a reboot. Still is I believe. > Also I would've used 500 rather than gene for the chmod. ls -ln verifies that. Yup, everything is 500, user and group. > > I don't know what more to say, especially since I have no idea what > "emc -l" is or does. Emc is a machine control program, initially funded by NIST many years ago, always in constant development, suitable for running almost any sort of a robot needing very precise positioning (of a rotating cutting bit for instance) in 3d (or more) space. The "or more" means it can handle up to 9 degrees of motion, and all totally co-ordinated. My own machine only has 4 motions setup, but the 4th one can occupy the 4th, 5th, or 6th position in the cartesian space depending on how that axis is bolted to the table the 1st 2 axis's move. One of the multi axis milling machines that takes a raw casting for a Toy engine into its clamps at an arbitrary time of the day, and delivers that engine block, ready for pistons, crankshaft and other parts to be installed, and does it in about 2/3rds the time that $50,000 a seat commercial software is doing it on an otherwise similar milling center sitting beside it. Toy has been pretty quiet since that video was released on youtube a year+ back up the log, but we've heard they are retrofitting other machines with emc. And its free. See links to get it on linuxcnc.org, or search for videos of it working on youtube. The -l option tells emc to load the same set of configuration files that it used the last time it was ran. Which is handy since one can unplug the motors on the milling machine, move the cables to the motors on a lathe, load that configuration and run the lathe, rather handy for a one man shop. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Life is a hospital in which every patient is possessed by the desire to change his bed. -- Charles Baudelaire From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Feb 1 01:39:56 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:39:56 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201101312015.48137.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311859.18986.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101312015.48137.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201101312039.56272.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday, January 31, 2011 08:37:34 pm Bruce Marshall did opine: > On Monday, January 31, 2011, gene heskett wrote: > > Its a bad habit that I've been catching hell about on various lists > > since about RH5.1 IIRC. And I'm gradually getting away from it. > > Typu's can't do near as much damage if one is a normal user. The > > debian derivatives will do everything but pee on your shoes to > > discourage it. > > Yeh, I know the "permissions police" will beat you with a stick, but I > prefer to do things my way..... > > The first thing I do when installing a *buntu release is to provide root > with a password. Sudo -i works for me. I did that to the original install, then tried to change the root password, and had to re-install, losing about 6 months worth of g-code I had written because I had no backups. But I do now, I have amanda doing a level0 on /home every night. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I can live without Someone I love But not without Someone I need. -- "Safety" From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Tue Feb 1 02:30:53 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:30:53 -0500 Subject: [SOLVED] Where can I find openclipart-libreoffice package for Lucid? In-Reply-To: <4D467762.4090401@fastwebnet.it> References: <4D4292A3.5070207@fastwebnet.it> <201101300850.06298.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> <4D467762.4090401@fastwebnet.it> Message-ID: <201101312130.54155.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Monday, January 31, 2011 03:48:34 am Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > Il 30/01/2011 14:50, Alan Dacey Sr. ha scritto: > > On Sunday, January 30, 2011 05:21:18 am Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > >> Il 30/01/2011 00:10, Alan Dacey Sr. ha scritto: > >>> On Friday, January 28, 2011 04:55:47 am Mirto Silvio Busico wrote: > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> I have Lucid 64bit and I have installed the libreoffice PPA. > >>>> > >>>> I was no able to find/install the openclipart-libreoffice package. > >>>> > >>>> Altough it is in the suggested packages in the libreoffice package. > >>>> > >>>> Have I to add other PPA? > >>>> > >>>> Any help is greately appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Mirto Busico > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Installing the openclipart package from the repositories gets a lot of > >>> clipart that you can add as files from /usr/share/openclipart/. I haven't > >>> figured out how to get it to appear in the galary with all the others yet. > >>> I'm going to look at the danger signs libre office plugin and see if I can > >>> devine what that uses to get itself in the gallery. > >>> > >>> Alan > >>> > >> Well, I've found a workaround. > >> > >> If I copy the directory content of > >> /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/share/gallery/ (all the *-thm *.sdg *.sdv) > >> in the corresponding libreoffice directory (I cannot verify in this > >> moment but it should be /usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.3/share/gallery/ ) > >> all the galleries are shown. > >> > >> Mybe the dconf file of openoffice-clipart can be modified to copy the > >> gallery files also in the libreoffice directory? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Mirto > >> > > That's the ticket! I thought that if the openclipart package gets updated > > you would not have any updates show up in LibreOffice since you did a copy. > > So here is the command to link the folders so that you can get the latest > > clipart (if the package ever gets updated, I don't remember ever seeing it, > > but I don't exactly try to remember /every/ update) > > > > sudo ln -s /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/share/gallery/* /usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.3/share/gallery/ > > > > This works (or is it works-around ??) > > > > Alan > > > Thanks Alan. It worked > > Now I ended up with this script to install libreoffice and the cliparts: > > _____________________________ start ______________________________ > #!/bin/bash > # executet on Kubuntu Lucid > sudo apt-get purge "openoffice*" > sudo apt-get install openclipart-openoffice.org > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get install libreoffice > > sudo ln -s /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/share/gallery/* > /usr/lib/libreoffice/basis3.3/share/gallery/ > > # install your language packs and preferred extensions > sudo apt-get install libreoffice-help-it libreoffice-l10n-it > libreoffice-pdfimport libreoffice-presenter-console > libreoffice-style-oxygen mozilla-libreoffice > _____________________________ end _______________________________ > > Regards > Mirto > > > Sweet! I saved a copy of it for my next install. I wonder how long until an openclipart-libreoffice package shows up? Alan From tomh0665 at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 04:59:07 2011 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 23:59:07 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201101312037.01054.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311821.00378.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101312037.01054.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:37 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, January 31, 2011 08:08:28 pm Tom H did opine: >>>> >> >> You can boot into single user mode and do either of the following: >> >> >> >> 1. Delete the user created at install, modify "/etc/login.defs", and >> >> re-create the user. (Only useful at first boot!) >> > >> > That was 6 months and a lot of carved steel before. :) >> > >> >> 2. Modify the uid of the user, �modify "/etc/login.defs", and chown >> >> the user's home directory recursively with the new uid. >> > >> > In this order? �I am currently ssh -Y'd into that box and I'd hate >> > doing half of it and being locked out. �So, I first modified >> > /etc/adduser.conf, then /etc/group, finally /etc/passwd (all as sudo >> > -i), then cd'd to /home and did the chown -R gene:gene gene bit. �A >> > couple of ls -l's seem to indicate it all worked. �Backed out of the >> > sudo with a ctrl-d. But emc wouldn't run, something about a BadWindow >> > error. Sudo reboot, & close the link. �Waited for a ping to work then >> > it took 3 passes before it bought my password again, but I'm back in >> > with an "ssh -Y shop" as gene on this box. >> > >> > But, emc still has a tummy ache over X and exits. �Humm, that box was >> > sitting at a local login prompt when I started, and is sitting there >> > again as I doubt my ssh login starts the x server. >> > >> > Does that fit with this error exit on emc's part? >> > >> > gene at shop:~$ cd emc2 >> > gene at shop:~/emc2$ emc -l >> > EMC2 - 2.4.6 >> > Machine configuration directory is >> > '/home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill' Machine configuration file is >> > 'genes-mill.ini' >> > Starting EMC2... >> > X Error of failed request: �BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) >> > �Major opcode of failed request: �3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) >> > �Resource id in failed request: �0xffffffff >> > �Serial number of failed request: �749 >> > �Current serial number in output stream: �750 >> > Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2... >> > Cleanup done >> > EMC terminated with an error. �You can find more information in the >> > log: � �/home/gene/emc_debug.txt >> > and >> > � �/home/gene/emc_print.txt >> > as well as in the output of the shell command 'dmesg' and in the >> > terminal >> > >> > Or have I royally screwed the moose here? >> >> Royally, I don't think so. Screwed the moose, possibly. >> >> I definitely wouldn't have made these changes with an X session open, >> especially not a gene X session. >> > I don't think an x session existed, the machines own console was sittin at > the user's login screen after a reboot.  Still is I believe. > >> Also I would've used 500 rather than gene for the chmod. > > ls -ln verifies that.  Yup, everything is 500, user and group. >> >> I don't know what more to say, especially since I have no idea what >> "emc -l" is or does. > > Emc is a machine control program, initially funded by NIST many years ago, > always in constant development, suitable for running almost any sort of a > robot needing very precise positioning (of a rotating cutting bit for > instance) in 3d (or more) space. Do a find with uid 1000 as a search criterion - and chown to 500 if you have hits. Could 1000 be hard-coded (meaning that the install took your original uid into account rather than truly hard-coded) somewhere in emc? From rrumberger at web.de Tue Feb 1 06:34:59 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:34:59 +0100 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201101311821.00378.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311821.00378.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102010735.00143.rrumberger@web.de> Am Dienstag 01 Februar 2011, um 00:21:00 schrieb gene heskett: > On Monday, January 31, 2011 05:54:33 pm Tom H did opine: > > > > You can boot into single user mode and do either of the following: > > > > 1. Delete the user created at install, modify "/etc/login.defs", and > > re-create the user. (Only useful at first boot!) > > That was 6 months and a lot of carved steel before. :) > > > 2. Modify the uid of the user, modify "/etc/login.defs", and chown > > the user's home directory recursively with the new uid. > > In this order? I am currently ssh -Y'd into that box and I'd hate doing > half of it and being locked out. So, I first modified /etc/adduser.conf, > then /etc/group, finally /etc/passwd (all as sudo -i), then cd'd to /home > and did the chown -R gene:gene gene bit. A couple of ls -l's seem to > indicate it all worked. Backed out of the sudo with a ctrl-d. But emc > wouldn't run, something about a BadWindow error. Sudo reboot, & close the > link. Waited for a ping to work then it took 3 passes before it bought my > password again, but I'm back in with an "ssh -Y shop" as gene on this box. Not sure whether you just forgot to mention it, but you really should change /etc/login.defs, too. Otherwise gene will be considered a system user and, worse, should you ever create another user, they'll be back to having UID 1000. > But, emc still has a tummy ache over X and exits. Humm, that box was > sitting at a local login prompt when I started, and is sitting there again > as I doubt my ssh login starts the x server. > > Does that fit with this error exit on emc's part? > > gene at shop:~$ cd emc2 > gene at shop:~/emc2$ emc -l > EMC2 - 2.4.6 > Machine configuration directory is '/home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill' > Machine configuration file is 'genes-mill.ini' > Starting EMC2... > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) > Resource id in failed request: 0xffffffff > Serial number of failed request: 749 > Current serial number in output stream: 750 > Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2... > Cleanup done > EMC terminated with an error. You can find more information in the log: > /home/gene/emc_debug.txt > and > /home/gene/emc_print.txt > as well as in the output of the shell command 'dmesg' and in the terminal > > Or have I royally screwed the moose here? Something Tom (and me, too, before) forgot are tmp directories. Try the following command and see whether that helps: sudo chown -R gene.gene {,/var}/tmp/*gene* The background being that both X and some other programs like to keep temporary files and would probably like permission to actually do so... :-P Whether this will help depends on whether your /tmp is cleaned on every boot, but it definitely shouldn't hurt. You may also want to remove all the different *auth* files in your home directories to re-initialise the different authentication cookies. Also, running another "chmod -R gene.gene ~gene/" after the reboot probably won't hurt as some program may still have been running with the old credentials and might have saved some config using them. --Reinhold From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Feb 1 08:48:44 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 03:48:44 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101312037.01054.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102010348.45096.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 03:42:54 am Tom H did opine: > Do a find with uid 1000 as a search criterion - and chown to 500 if > you have hits. > > Could 1000 be hard-coded (meaning that the install took your original > uid into account rather than truly hard-coded) somewhere in emc? I did the find, and found a couple of things in /var/tmp and /var/cache that needed the chown. Didn't help. htop says there is no trace of X running, so I'll have to wade through the snow and go login from its own console, which should fix the rest of it I hope. Then of course I'll probably be back to square one as far as my being able to save an email into my home dir on that box. Murphy is alive and well. Drinks all my beer when I'm not looking too... Thanks Tim. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) In the future, you're going to get computers as prizes in breakfast cereals. You'll throw them out because your house will be littered with them. From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Feb 1 09:08:37 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 04:08:37 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201102010735.00143.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201101311821.00378.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102010735.00143.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102010408.37700.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 03:56:29 am Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > Am Dienstag 01 Februar 2011, um 00:21:00 schrieb gene heskett: > > On Monday, January 31, 2011 05:54:33 pm Tom H did opine: > > > > > You can boot into single user mode and do either of the following: > > > > > > 1. Delete the user created at install, modify "/etc/login.defs", and > > > re-create the user. (Only useful at first boot!) > > > > That was 6 months and a lot of carved steel before. :) > > > > > 2. Modify the uid of the user, modify "/etc/login.defs", and chown > > > the user's home directory recursively with the new uid. > > > > In this order? I am currently ssh -Y'd into that box and I'd hate > > doing half of it and being locked out. So, I first modified > > /etc/adduser.conf, then /etc/group, finally /etc/passwd (all as sudo > > -i), then cd'd to /home and did the chown -R gene:gene gene bit. A > > couple of ls -l's seem to indicate it all worked. Backed out of the > > sudo with a ctrl-d. But emc wouldn't run, something about a BadWindow > > error. Sudo reboot, & close the link. Waited for a ping to work then > > it took 3 passes before it bought my password again, but I'm back in > > with an "ssh -Y shop" as gene on this box. > > Not sure whether you just forgot to mention it, but you really should > change /etc/login.defs, too. Otherwise gene will be considered a system > user and, worse, should you ever create another user, they'll be back > to having UID 1000. > > > But, emc still has a tummy ache over X and exits. Humm, that box was > > sitting at a local login prompt when I started, and is sitting there > > again as I doubt my ssh login starts the x server. > > > > Does that fit with this error exit on emc's part? > > > > gene at shop:~$ cd emc2 > > gene at shop:~/emc2$ emc -l > > EMC2 - 2.4.6 > > Machine configuration directory is > > '/home/gene/emc2/configs/genes-mill' Machine configuration file is > > 'genes-mill.ini' > > Starting EMC2... > > X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) > > > > Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) > > Resource id in failed request: 0xffffffff > > Serial number of failed request: 749 > > Current serial number in output stream: 750 > > > > Shutting down and cleaning up EMC2... > > Cleanup done > > > > EMC terminated with an error. You can find more information in the log: > > /home/gene/emc_debug.txt > > > > and > > > > /home/gene/emc_print.txt > > > > as well as in the output of the shell command 'dmesg' and in the > > terminal > > > > Or have I royally screwed the moose here? > > Something Tom (and me, too, before) forgot are tmp directories. Try the > following command and see whether that helps: > sudo chown -R gene.gene {,/var}/tmp/*gene* Got that too. > The background being that both X and some other programs like to keep > temporary files and would probably like permission to actually do so... > :-P > > Whether this will help depends on whether your /tmp is cleaned on every > boot, but it definitely shouldn't hurt. > > You may also want to remove all the different *auth* files in your home > directories to re-initialise the different authentication cookies. Which I should do. Except an ls -laR|less and 10 minutes scanning a loooong list didn't disclose that I had any. > Also, running another "chmod -R gene.gene ~gene/" after the reboot > probably won't hurt as some program may still have been running with > the old credentials and might have saved some config using them. I'll keep that in mind. > --Reinhold Thanks for that heads-up Reinhold, I found a couple more places in /etc where I was still user or group 1000 & fixed those too. /etc/samba/smbpasswd was one of them. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Appendix: A portion of a book, for which nobody yet has discovered any use. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:29:03 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:29:03 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.6 Message-ID: <4D47EE7F.8010304@gmail.com> Took the plunge and upgraded. So far so good and BOY happy to finally see Bluetooth work as I was used to in 3.5.10 Kudos to the developers and Kubuntus packagers Sinclair From fsunoles at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 21:38:47 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:38:47 -0700 Subject: Stuck at the login screen In-Reply-To: References: <4D2CC16E.4010704@whamra.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Homer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Waleed Hamra wrote: >> On 01/11/2011 09:36 PM, Homer wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Clay Weber wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Homer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Jonas Norlander >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> 2011/1/10 Homer : >>>>>>> Fresh install of Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Machine is a microcomputer; an older version of this: >>>>>>> http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjrmx/index.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I successfully ran 8.04 on this machine in the past.  10.04 installs >>>>>>> without a hitch, but I'm stuck at the login screen.  Entering a >>>>>>> username/password the login process starts, but about 2/3 of the way >>>>>>> through the screen goes blank, and when it comes back I am again at >>>>>>> the login in screen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Result is the same when choosing the failsafe option. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> At the login screen, select "console login" from one of the button on the >>>> screen (can't remeber which one). Once there issue the following commands >>>> >>>> sudo service kdm stop >>>> (this is to make sure KDM is not running in for the next step) >>>> >>>> then run this: >>>> startx >>> >>> The result of these steps is the machine locks up.  It stops at the >>> point a normal attempt would cycle back to the login screen.  Through >>> switching terminals during subsequent attempts I was able to see the >>> messages resulting from the startx command.  Nothing stood out to me. >>> The final line was: "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X >>> server."  Is there a way to capture the startx messages? >>> >> >> >> >> to capture the message being thrown by the command, type this on the >> command line: >> >> startx 1>/tmp/x.log 2>&1 > > Of course.  Thank you for that reminder.  Below is the output from the > startx command: > > X.Org X Server 1.7.6 > Release Date: 2010-03-17 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-28-server i686 Ubuntu > Current Operating System: Linux sxf-tsi 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec >  1 23:52:12 UTC 2010 i686 > Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.32-27-generic root=UUID=0f5485af-87 > 27-4c27-8ceb-588f873771f0 ro quiet splash > Build Date: 10 November 2010  11:25:26AM > xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.4 (For technical support please see http://www.ubun > tu.com/support) > Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 >        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >        to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jan 11 15:00:02 2011 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > (==) Using config directory: "/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d" > Fulfilled via DRI at 7683200 > Freed 7683200 (pool 2) > The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >> Warning:          Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols >>                   Ignoring extra symbols > Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server > X: main/renderbuffer.c:2067: _mesa_reference_renderbuffer: Assertion `oldRb->Mag > ic == 0xaabbccdd' failed. > xinit:  connection to X server lost. I decided to get back after this today. I did some searching and found this link: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562585 In there it was suggested to add to the xorg.conf file: Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "off" EndSection or set: ShadowFB "True" I tried the second suggestion and I was able to log in successfully. There didn't seem to be a distinction between the two suggestions as far as if one was better than the other. Bottom line is there seems to be a bug that was introduced between 8.04 and 10.04. From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 23:31:44 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:31:44 -0700 Subject: Why does KDE always reset my plasma workspace shortcuts? Message-ID: In my IDE, Ctrl-Alt-V is the keystroke for "extract variable", a command I use multiple times a day. That is also the default shortcut in KDE for the Plasma Workspace to open the systemtray-klipper menu. Fortunately, shortcuts in KDE are easy to turn off, once you know how. So I open systemsettings -> Shortcuts & Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts, look through the components until I remember that it is Plasma Workspace, then customize Systemtray-Klipper-10 to have no shortcut. That works great, until the next time I start KDE. Then I have to do it all over again. I've not had this problem before. I'm running KDE from the PPA--currently on 4.5.5. Anyone know why this is happening, or how I can make it stop? Thanks, Michael From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Feb 2 00:07:00 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 19:07:00 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201102010408.37700.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102010735.00143.rrumberger@web.de> <201102010408.37700.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102011907.00698.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 06:50:46 pm gene heskett did opine: [...] > > Something Tom (and me, too, before) forgot are tmp directories. Try > > the following command and see whether that helps: > > sudo chown -R gene.gene {,/var}/tmp/*gene* > > Got that too. > > > The background being that both X and some other programs like to keep > > temporary files and would probably like permission to actually do > > so... > > > > :-P > > > > Whether this will help depends on whether your /tmp is cleaned on > > every boot, but it definitely shouldn't hurt. > > > > You may also want to remove all the different *auth* files in your > > home directories to re-initialise the different authentication > > cookies. > > Which I should do. Except an ls -laR|less and 10 minutes scanning a > loooong list didn't disclose that I had any. > > > Also, running another "chmod -R gene.gene ~gene/" after the reboot > > probably won't hurt as some program may still have been running with > > the old credentials and might have saved some config using them. > > I'll keep that in mind. > > > --Reinhold > > Thanks for that heads-up Reinhold, I found a couple more places in /etc > where I was still user or group 1000 & fixed those too. > /etc/samba/smbpasswd was one of them. Continuing the saga of a self-destructed system, today being decent, I thought I would go carve on some alu bits & pieces for my automated powder scales second generation design. 1. when I logged in, x wouldn't run, so I looked to see if I had an /etc/xorg.conf, but I didn't, other than old backup copies, so I copied it to xorg.conf and edited it to replace the 'vesa' driver with the ati, which may have been my mistake, but it turns out that the box is now running at about 2% of its former speed when emc is running. Bear in mind I changed it to see if the ati/radeon driver was any better, but it is far worse, dozens of times slower than the vesa driver was 2 weeks ago. So, i need to go back to the vesa driver, but that also is acting like its a 25mhz 386sx. Keyboard responses are typically 2 seconds to recognize a keydown, and maybe 3 secs to recognize a keyup, with a similar lag between the keyup, and another keydown else there is no respnse at all. Mouse clicks similarly lag, and the screen update itself is another 2 to 4 seconds. This is probably related to my converting the usernums to start at 500, so at this point I'll check just about everything that might be germain to this. So, suggest away folks! Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Ignorance is never out of style. It was in fashion yesterday, it is the rage today, and it will set the pace tomorrow. -- Franklin K. Dane From rrumberger at web.de Wed Feb 2 01:28:07 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:28:07 +0100 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201102011907.00698.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102010408.37700.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102011907.00698.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102020228.08929.rrumberger@web.de> Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, um 01:07:00 schrieb gene heskett: > 1. when I logged in, x wouldn't run, so I looked to see if I had an > /etc/xorg.conf, Just checking to see that you actually mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > but I didn't, other than old backup copies, so I copied it > to xorg.conf and edited it to replace the 'vesa' driver with the ati, which > may have been my mistake, but it turns out that the box is now running at > about 2% of its former speed when emc is running. Bear in mind I changed > it to see if the ati/radeon driver was any better, but it is far worse, > dozens of times slower than the vesa driver was 2 weeks ago. > > So, i need to go back to the vesa driver, but that also is acting like its > a 25mhz 386sx. Keyboard responses are typically 2 seconds to recognize a > keydown, and maybe 3 secs to recognize a keyup, with a similar lag between > the keyup, and another keydown else there is no respnse at all. Mouse > clicks similarly lag, and the screen update itself is another 2 to 4 > seconds. Is that only with this emc thing? Does it make use of 3D-acceleration? I'm pretty sure that changing your UID shouldn't have that effect, especially as the X server is normally started by root/a special system user. Have you tried running memtest? What do dmesg, /var/log/messages, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ... say? Anything suspicious? --Reinhold From rrumberger at web.de Wed Feb 2 01:34:37 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (reini) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:34:37 +0100 Subject: Why does KDE always reset my plasma workspace shortcuts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102020234.37324.rrumberger@web.de> Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, um 00:31:44 schrieb Michael Hirsch: > In my IDE, Ctrl-Alt-V is the keystroke for "extract variable", a > command I use multiple times a day. That is also the default shortcut > in KDE for the Plasma Workspace to open the systemtray-klipper menu. > > Fortunately, shortcuts in KDE are easy to turn off, once you know how. > So I open systemsettings -> Shortcuts & Gestures -> Global Keyboard > Shortcuts, look through the components until I remember that it is > Plasma Workspace, then customize Systemtray-Klipper-10 to have no > shortcut. > > That works great, until the next time I start KDE. Then I have to do > it all over again. Try configuring klipper (right-click on it and press the configuration option). There is an area for configuring klipper shortcuts which might work better. > I've not had this problem before. I'm running KDE from the > PPA--currently on 4.5.5. 4.6.0 here, but I don't have to klipper shortcuts set, so I wouldn't know whether this will work in 4.5.5. --Reinhold From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Feb 2 01:47:33 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 20:47:33 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201102020228.08929.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102011907.00698.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102020228.08929.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102012047.33192.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 08:42:27 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, um 01:07:00 schrieb gene heskett: > know> > > > 1. when I logged in, x wouldn't run, so I looked to see if I had an > > /etc/xorg.conf, > > Just checking to see that you actually mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > > > but I didn't, other than old backup copies, so I copied it > > to xorg.conf and edited it to replace the 'vesa' driver with the ati, > > which may have been my mistake, but it turns out that the box is now > > running at about 2% of its former speed when emc is running. Bear in > > mind I changed it to see if the ati/radeon driver was any better, but > > it is far worse, dozens of times slower than the vesa driver was 2 > > weeks ago. > > > > So, i need to go back to the vesa driver, but that also is acting like > > its a 25mhz 386sx. Keyboard responses are typically 2 seconds to > > recognize a keydown, and maybe 3 secs to recognize a keyup, with a > > similar lag between the keyup, and another keydown else there is no > > respnse at all. Mouse clicks similarly lag, and the screen update > > itself is another 2 to 4 seconds. > > Is that only with this emc thing? Does it make use of 3D-acceleration? > I'm pretty sure that changing your UID shouldn't have that effect, > especially as the X server is normally started by root/a special system > user. Have you tried running memtest? What do dmesg, /var/log/messages, > /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ... say? Anything suspicious? > > --Reinhold They all look fairly clean. Nothing reaches up and gets my attention. Some un-recognized keycodes, and of course the realtime errors caused by whatever is making it be super laggy. Is x actually running at the point where the first user logs in? Or is that started after the correct pw has been entered? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Is it possible that software is not like anything else, that it is meant to be discarded: that the whole point is to always see it as a soap bubble? From rrumberger at web.de Wed Feb 2 01:59:53 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (reini) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:59:53 +0100 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201102012047.33192.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102020228.08929.rrumberger@web.de> <201102012047.33192.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102020259.55039.rrumberger@web.de> On Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, 02:47:33, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 08:42:27 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > > Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, um 01:07:00 schrieb gene heskett: > > > know> > > > > > 1. when I logged in, x wouldn't run, so I looked to see if I had an > > > /etc/xorg.conf, > > > > Just checking to see that you actually mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > > > > > but I didn't, other than old backup copies, so I copied it > > > to xorg.conf and edited it to replace the 'vesa' driver with the ati, > > > which may have been my mistake, but it turns out that the box is now > > > running at about 2% of its former speed when emc is running. Bear in > > > mind I changed it to see if the ati/radeon driver was any better, but > > > it is far worse, dozens of times slower than the vesa driver was 2 > > > weeks ago. > > > > > > So, i need to go back to the vesa driver, but that also is acting like > > > its a 25mhz 386sx. Keyboard responses are typically 2 seconds to > > > recognize a keydown, and maybe 3 secs to recognize a keyup, with a > > > similar lag between the keyup, and another keydown else there is no > > > respnse at all. Mouse clicks similarly lag, and the screen update > > > itself is another 2 to 4 seconds. > > > > Is that only with this emc thing? Does it make use of 3D-acceleration? > > I'm pretty sure that changing your UID shouldn't have that effect, > > especially as the X server is normally started by root/a special system > > user. Have you tried running memtest? What do dmesg, /var/log/messages, > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ... say? Anything suspicious? > > > > --Reinhold > > They all look fairly clean. Nothing reaches up and gets my attention. > Some un-recognized keycodes, and of course the realtime errors caused by > whatever is making it be super laggy. > > Is x actually running at the point where the first user logs in? Or is > that started after the correct pw has been entered? If you do a graphical login, sure, *DM need an X server. It might actually be worth a try dropping to a tty before login and using startx to start the X server (obviously, first do a "sudo stop kdm" or whatever you use to log in). --Reinhold From gheskett at wdtv.com Wed Feb 2 02:26:15 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 21:26:15 -0500 Subject: Permissions problems are being a huge PIMA In-Reply-To: <201102020259.55039.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201101311046.16681.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102012047.33192.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102020259.55039.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102012126.15939.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 09:22:46 pm reini did opine: > On Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, 02:47:33, gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 08:42:27 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > > > Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, um 01:07:00 schrieb gene heskett: > > > > > *do* know> > > > > > > > 1. when I logged in, x wouldn't run, so I looked to see if I had > > > > an /etc/xorg.conf, > > > > > > Just checking to see that you actually mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > > > > > > > but I didn't, other than old backup copies, so I copied it > > > > to xorg.conf and edited it to replace the 'vesa' driver with the > > > > ati, which may have been my mistake, but it turns out that the > > > > box is now running at about 2% of its former speed when emc is > > > > running. Bear in mind I changed it to see if the ati/radeon > > > > driver was any better, but it is far worse, dozens of times > > > > slower than the vesa driver was 2 weeks ago. > > > > > > > > So, i need to go back to the vesa driver, but that also is acting > > > > like its a 25mhz 386sx. Keyboard responses are typically 2 > > > > seconds to recognize a keydown, and maybe 3 secs to recognize a > > > > keyup, with a similar lag between the keyup, and another keydown > > > > else there is no respnse at all. Mouse clicks similarly lag, and > > > > the screen update itself is another 2 to 4 seconds. > > > > > > Is that only with this emc thing? Does it make use of > > > 3D-acceleration? I'm pretty sure that changing your UID shouldn't > > > have that effect, especially as the X server is normally started by > > > root/a special system user. Have you tried running memtest? What do > > > dmesg, /var/log/messages, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ... say? Anything > > > suspicious? > > > > > > --Reinhold > > > > They all look fairly clean. Nothing reaches up and gets my attention. > > Some un-recognized keycodes, and of course the realtime errors caused > > by whatever is making it be super laggy. > > > > Is x actually running at the point where the first user logs in? Or > > is that started after the correct pw has been entered? > > If you do a graphical login, sure, *DM need an X server. It might > actually be worth a try dropping to a tty before login and using startx > to start the X server (obviously, first do a "sudo stop kdm" or > whatever you use to log in). > > --Reinhold I will give that a try if I don't get rained out, I'm on the southern edge of this superstorm they are talking about. Its been raining here, fairly steady, for a couple hours now. Thanks Reinhold. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) idleness, n.: Leisure gone to seed. From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Wed Feb 2 16:21:56 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 18:21:56 +0200 Subject: Why does KDE always reset my plasma workspace shortcuts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D4984A4.1050000@whamra.com> On 02/02/2011 01:31 AM, Michael Hirsch wrote: > In my IDE, Ctrl-Alt-V is the keystroke for "extract variable", a > command I use multiple times a day. That is also the default shortcut > in KDE for the Plasma Workspace to open the systemtray-klipper menu. > > Fortunately, shortcuts in KDE are easy to turn off, once you know how. > So I open systemsettings -> Shortcuts & Gestures -> Global Keyboard > Shortcuts, look through the components until I remember that it is > Plasma Workspace, then customize Systemtray-Klipper-10 to have no > shortcut. > > That works great, until the next time I start KDE. Then I have to do > it all over again. > > I've not had this problem before. I'm running KDE from the > PPA--currently on 4.5.5. > > Anyone know why this is happening, or how I can make it stop? > > Thanks, > > Michael > are you sure plasma is closing properly? if plasma crashes on logout/shutdown (which happened a lot in 4.5.5) most of the KDE settings get lost. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 17:57:10 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:57:10 -0700 Subject: Why does KDE always reset my plasma workspace shortcuts? In-Reply-To: <201102020234.37324.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102020234.37324.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:34 PM, reini wrote: > Am Mittwoch 02 Februar 2011, um 00:31:44 schrieb Michael Hirsch: >> In my IDE, Ctrl-Alt-V is the keystroke for "extract variable", a >> command I use multiple times a day.  That is also the default shortcut >> in KDE for the Plasma Workspace to open the systemtray-klipper menu. >> >> Fortunately, shortcuts in KDE are easy to turn off, once you know how. >>  So I open systemsettings -> Shortcuts & Gestures -> Global Keyboard >> Shortcuts, look through the components until I remember that it is >> Plasma Workspace, then customize Systemtray-Klipper-10 to have no >> shortcut. >> >> That works great, until the next time I start KDE.  Then I have to do >> it all over again. > > Try configuring klipper (right-click on it and press the configuration > option). There is an area for configuring klipper shortcuts which might work > better. Configuring klipper is what I tried first. Apparently Ctrl-Alt-V is not a klipper shortcut, but a Plasma Workspace shortcut. If I'm missing something, I'd like to know. Michael From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 18:00:55 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 11:00:55 -0700 Subject: Why does KDE always reset my plasma workspace shortcuts? In-Reply-To: <4D4984A4.1050000@whamra.com> References: <4D4984A4.1050000@whamra.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 02/02/2011 01:31 AM, Michael Hirsch wrote: >> In my IDE, Ctrl-Alt-V is the keystroke for "extract variable", a >> command I use multiple times a day.  That is also the default shortcut >> in KDE for the Plasma Workspace to open the systemtray-klipper menu. >> >> Fortunately, shortcuts in KDE are easy to turn off, once you know how. >>  So I open systemsettings -> Shortcuts & Gestures -> Global Keyboard >> Shortcuts, look through the components until I remember that it is >> Plasma Workspace, then customize Systemtray-Klipper-10 to have no >> shortcut. >> >> That works great, until the next time I start KDE.  Then I have to do >> it all over again. >> >> I've not had this problem before.  I'm running KDE from the >> PPA--currently on 4.5.5. >> >> Anyone know why this is happening, or how I can make it stop? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael >> > > are you sure plasma is closing properly? if plasma crashes on > logout/shutdown (which happened a lot in 4.5.5) most of the KDE settings > get lost. Really? That's badly broken. Configurations should be save when they are confirmed or applied, not on exit. Eclipse does this, too, which is just wrong. For at least some configuration options in Eclipse, you might get them the way you like them, then work in eclipse for a week. When it crashes, your configs are lost and it was so long ago you don't remember what they were. :( But to answer your question, I don't know that plasma is closing properly. I'm just shutting down with the standard KDE dialog. I tell it to restart the system. It does. I don't see any errors, but I don't know that I would see an error if it isn't closing properly. Thanks, Michael From rayburke30 at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 19:30:49 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 06:30:49 +1100 Subject: Stuck at the login screen In-Reply-To: References: <4D2CC16E.4010704@whamra.com> Message-ID: Homer, how do input "ShaodwFB "True"" when you cant even get the system up as cant login? ray On 2/2/11, Homer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Homer wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Waleed Hamra >> wrote: >>> On 01/11/2011 09:36 PM, Homer wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Clay Weber wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Homer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Jonas Norlander >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> 2011/1/10 Homer : >>>>>>>> Fresh install of Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Machine is a microcomputer; an older version of this: >>>>>>>> http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjrmx/index.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I successfully ran 8.04 on this machine in the past.  10.04 installs >>>>>>>> without a hitch, but I'm stuck at the login screen.  Entering a >>>>>>>> username/password the login process starts, but about 2/3 of the way >>>>>>>> through the screen goes blank, and when it comes back I am again at >>>>>>>> the login in screen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Result is the same when choosing the failsafe option. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At the login screen, select "console login" from one of the button on >>>>> the >>>>> screen (can't remeber which one). Once there issue the following >>>>> commands >>>>> >>>>> sudo service kdm stop >>>>> (this is to make sure KDM is not running in for the next step) >>>>> >>>>> then run this: >>>>> startx >>>> >>>> The result of these steps is the machine locks up.  It stops at the >>>> point a normal attempt would cycle back to the login screen.  Through >>>> switching terminals during subsequent attempts I was able to see the >>>> messages resulting from the startx command.  Nothing stood out to me. >>>> The final line was: "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X >>>> server."  Is there a way to capture the startx messages? >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> to capture the message being thrown by the command, type this on the >>> command line: >>> >>> startx 1>/tmp/x.log 2>&1 >> >> Of course.  Thank you for that reminder.  Below is the output from the >> startx command: >> >> X.Org X Server 1.7.6 >> Release Date: 2010-03-17 >> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 >> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-28-server i686 Ubuntu >> Current Operating System: Linux sxf-tsi 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP >> Wed Dec >>  1 23:52:12 UTC 2010 i686 >> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.32-27-generic >> root=UUID=0f5485af-87 >> 27-4c27-8ceb-588f873771f0 ro quiet splash >> Build Date: 10 November 2010  11:25:26AM >> xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.4 (For technical support please see >> http://www.ubun >> tu.com/support) >> Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 >>        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org >>        to make sure that you have the latest version. >> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, >>        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, >>        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. >> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Jan 11 15:00:02 2011 >> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" >> (==) Using config directory: "/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d" >> Fulfilled via DRI at 7683200 >> Freed 7683200 (pool 2) >> The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: >>> Warning:          Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols >>>                   Ignoring extra symbols >> Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server >> X: main/renderbuffer.c:2067: _mesa_reference_renderbuffer: Assertion >> `oldRb->Mag >> ic == 0xaabbccdd' failed. >> xinit:  connection to X server lost. > > > I decided to get back after this today. I did some searching and > found this link: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562585 > > In there it was suggested to add to the xorg.conf file: > Section "ServerFlags" > Option "AIGLX" "off" > EndSection > > or set: > ShadowFB "True" > > I tried the second suggestion and I was able to log in successfully. > There didn't seem to be a distinction between the two suggestions as > far as if one was better than the other. Bottom line is there seems > to be a bug that was introduced between 8.04 and 10.04. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From fsunoles at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 21:08:01 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:08:01 -0700 Subject: Stuck at the login screen In-Reply-To: References: <4D2CC16E.4010704@whamra.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, ray burke wrote: > Homer, > > how do input "ShaodwFB "True"" when you cant even get the system up as cant > login? > > ray Hi Ray, The graphical login prompt would appear, and I could enter username/password. It would then get about 2/3 of the way through the login process, then go blank, then return back to the login screen. Hence, I was "stuck" at the login screen. I exited to a shell from the login screen (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and edited files that way. I didn't have a menu option at the login screen to go to a shell as was suggested. I'm guessing that is a configurable option. From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 22:20:05 2011 From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 22:20:05 +0000 Subject: Stuck at the login screen In-Reply-To: References: <4D2CC16E.4010704@whamra.com> Message-ID: <20110202222005.51b98d84.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:08:01 -0700 Homer wrote: H> H> The graphical login prompt would appear, and I could enter H> username/password. It would then get about 2/3 of the way through H> the login process, then go blank, then return back to the login H> screen. Hence, I was "stuck" at the login screen. I exited to a H> shell from the login screen (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and edited files that way. H> I didn't have a menu option at the login screen to go to a shell as H> was suggested. I'm guessing that is a configurable option. I'm not sure if this has already been suggested. but /var/log/Xorg.0.log may have information about what's actually failing. -- +------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__ | | sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | +--------------------------------------------------------+---------+ From fsunoles at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 22:34:35 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:34:35 -0700 Subject: Stuck at the login screen In-Reply-To: <20110202222005.51b98d84.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> References: <4D2CC16E.4010704@whamra.com> <20110202222005.51b98d84.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:20 PM, James Tappin wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:08:01 -0700 > Homer wrote: > > H> The graphical login prompt would appear, and I could enter > H> username/password.  It would then get about 2/3 of the way through > H> the login process, then go blank, then return back to the login > H> screen. Hence, I was "stuck" at the login screen.  I exited to a > H> shell from the login screen (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and edited files that way. > H> I didn't have a menu option at the login screen to go to a shell as > H> was suggested.  I'm guessing that is a configurable option. > > I'm not sure if this has already been suggested. but /var/log/Xorg.0.log > may have information about what's actually failing. It might. I have previously posted a good bit of log info, but that didn't yield much response. I started searching for strings I found in log messages, and that is how I found the link I posted earlier that pointed to a bug with the openchrome driver. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562585 In the bug description I found the two workarounds I posted earlier. I'm way more of a user than a programmer, so my effort pretty much ended when I found a solution. Though admittedly it is not a fix, I wanted to follow-up on my original post with a work around in case someone else finds himself with the same issue. From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 05:00:34 2011 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:00:34 +1100 Subject: Stuck at the login screen In-Reply-To: References: <4D2CC16E.4010704@whamra.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Homer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:30 PM, ray burke wrote: >> Homer, >> >> how do input "ShaodwFB "True"" when you cant even get the system up as cant >> login? >> >> ray > > Hi Ray, > > The graphical login prompt would appear, and I could enter > username/password.  It would then get about 2/3 of the way through the > login process, then go blank, then return back to the login screen. > Hence, I was "stuck" at the login screen.  I exited to a shell from > the login screen (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and edited files that way.  I didn't > have a menu option at the login screen to go to a shell as was > suggested.  I'm guessing that is a configurable option. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Homer, I shall install K 10.10 on my spare 40gb ide drive and when I get to the login screen that I cant input on I will do the exited to a shell from > the login screen (Ctrl-Alt-F1) and edited files that way. and see what happens? thanks ray From stan10x10 at gmail.com Thu Feb 3 11:15:12 2011 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 06:15:12 -0500 Subject: Setting grub on cd Message-ID: I have to have a dual boot system because some programs I need do not have equivalent Linux programs or will not export in a format that windows users can use. But when ever windows screws up my Linux install is also screwed. Could some one kindly point me to simple documentation to install grub to a CD in a manner so I can keep the OSes from disabling each other? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pascal at francq.info Thu Feb 3 11:20:29 2011 From: pascal at francq.info (Pascal Francq) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:20:29 +0100 Subject: Network Problem with Akonadi Message-ID: <201102031220.31718.pascal@francq.info> Hi, I have a problem with Akonadi which fails to synchronise correctly with Google Calendar and Contacts. In ~/.local/share/akonadi/akonadiserver.error, I have thousand entries of: ItemRetrieverException : Unable to retrieve item from resource: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. I have no idea what the problem may be. -- Dr. Ir. Pascal Francq BELGIUM -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From rrumberger at web.de Thu Feb 3 16:38:05 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (reini) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:38:05 +0100 Subject: Setting grub on cd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102031738.06985.rrumberger@web.de> On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 12:15:12, uriah heep wrote: > I have to have a dual boot system because some programs I need do not have > equivalent Linux programs or will not export in a format that windows users > can use. But when ever windows screws up my Linux install is also screwed. > Could some one kindly point me to simple documentation to install grub to a > CD in a manner so I can keep the OSes from disabling each other? The usefulness of this reply will depend on your use of windows (especially how much/often): I have a similar problem since Visual Studio only runs on Windows and I'm forced to use it. Because of this, I have a Windows VM which runs VS and cohorts. This has the advantage of me being able to use both Windows and Linux in parallel. Obviously stuff like 3D graphics don't work so well, so if you want to play 3D games, this won't help much. Just something for you to think about... --Reinhold From g.lip at gmx.com Thu Feb 3 16:57:35 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:57:35 +0800 Subject: Setting grub on cd In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:15:12 +0800, uriah heep wrote: > I have to have a dual boot system because some programs I need do not > have > equivalent Linux programs or will not export in a format that windows > users > can use. But when ever windows screws up my Linux install is also > screwed. > Could some one kindly point me to simple documentation to install grub > to a > CD in a manner so I can keep the OSes from disabling each other? Uriah, to make a simple cd grub boot, just grub-mkrescue --output=anything.iso where anything.siso can be any thing you name. However if you want to include a grub.cfg file then grub-mkrescue --output=grubo.iso /media/LABEL/boot/grub/grub.cfg where /media/LABEL is the partition where you want the right grub.cfg you want copied over. But remember if you boot up from that cd, do a "configfile /grub.cfg" so that the grub menu appears at the grub prompt. Just got back from a short new year (my new year, not yours) holidays, but if you need more info, please let us know. Regards - Goh Lip -- I used to have an open mind, but my brains kept falling out. From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Feb 3 18:29:17 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:29:17 -0500 Subject: My shop box has no users! Message-ID: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> Greetings; I tried to synchronize my usernum between this machine, and the shop machine, which amanda also backs up. By modifying everything in /etc to renumber the user gene from 1000 to 500 like it is here on this pclos box. That did not gain me write perms in /home/gene on the shop box, so I reverted everything. I can ssh into this machine as 'gene', using my usual passwd, but the prompt is: root at shop:/var# logout <-i did a ctrl+d I have no name!@shop:~$ whoami whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000 Yet I exist in both the original /etc/passwd, /etc/group as 1000:1000 Similarly, I can su - backup (user id 34 in both files): root at shop:~# su - backup X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. expr: syntax error $ getting the $ prompt only, and $ whoami whoami: cannot find name for user ID 34 $ And of course amanda failed to backup anything from shop.coyote.den last night, but did generate: $ cd /var/log/amanda/amandad $ ls -l |wc -l 168030 debug files in the /var/log/amanda/amandad directory, all of which are minor variations of: $ cat amandad.20110203093718.debug (hit enter twice to get output) 1296743838.829167: amandad: pid 2511 ruid 34 euid 34 version 2.6.1p1: start at Thu Feb 3 09:37:18 2011 1296743838.829604: amandad: critical (fatal): current userid 34 not found in password database /usr/lib/amanda/libamanda-2.6.1p1.so(+0x1c350)[0x843350] /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_logv+0x1fa)[0x3ebbea] /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_log+0x26)[0x3ec056] /usr/lib/amanda/libamanda-2.6.1p1.so(check_running_as+0x24b)[0x85975b] amandad(main+0xe1)[0x8049d11] /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6)[0x4a0bd6] amandad[0x8049a91] That particular file was from an amcheck run on this machine as I was installing the late last night snapshot of 3.2.1 this morning. In about 13 years of running linux, I have never seen anything like this, where a user contained in the passwd and group files can login, then sudo - i to root ok, do anything root can do, then 'su - username' and wander around and almost get something done, but cannot find out who the heck he is! And, I just found that X is indeed running, in --failsafe mode, and that there is still an unkillable copy of amandad running. It should have timed out and given up 13 hours ago. Reboot in progress... That did kill it. I'd hate to have to re-install this box, as I haven't done any 'practice' restores and here are at least 100 new gcode files I've written that would be lost forever if I can't amrecover them. Whatthe???? I just noticed that the emailed report says the shop dle's are missing, but that is NOT listed on the printed report, they are not even reported! As I look at the printout first thing in the morning, only half awake, that I would consider an important BUG, at least to me. That however is a separate item. Has anyone else ever encountered this, or am I doomed to do a re-install & then fight to recover the important stuffs from a halted backup regimen so what I need doesn't fall off the end of my 30 day schedule as I am scheduled to leave on a trip that may take a week or more, to the UP of Michigan as soon as the roads are again passable across the north shore of Lake Michigan. It is not a trip I have any enthusiasm about at all. Thanks all, for any insight on this. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Remember: While root can do most everything, there are certain privileges that only a partner can grant. -- Telsa Gwynne From rrumberger at web.de Thu Feb 3 18:53:19 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:53:19 +0100 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102031953.19792.rrumberger@web.de> On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 19:29:17, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > I tried to synchronize my usernum between this machine, and the shop > machine, which amanda also backs up. By modifying everything in /etc to > renumber the user gene from 1000 to 500 like it is here on this pclos box. > That did not gain me write perms in /home/gene on the shop box, so I > reverted everything. > > I can ssh into this machine as 'gene', using my usual passwd, but the > prompt is: > root at shop:/var# logout <-i did a ctrl+d > I have no name!@shop:~$ whoami > whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000 > > Yet I exist in both the original /etc/passwd, /etc/group as 1000:1000 I've never used amanda (to complex for my little laptop), so I'm clueless about that, but could you check the permissions on these: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1002 2011-01-20 12:21 /etc/group -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2,0K 2010-12-10 00:14 /etc/passwd I just reproduced the above problem by removing read permissions. --Reinhold From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Feb 3 20:53:07 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:53:07 -0500 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102031953.19792.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102031953.19792.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102031553.08125.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday, February 03, 2011 03:17:17 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 19:29:17, gene heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > I tried to synchronize my usernum between this machine, and the shop > > machine, which amanda also backs up. By modifying everything in /etc > > to renumber the user gene from 1000 to 500 like it is here on this > > pclos box. That did not gain me write perms in /home/gene on the shop > > box, so I reverted everything. > > > > I can ssh into this machine as 'gene', using my usual passwd, but the > > prompt is: > > root at shop:/var# logout <-i did a ctrl+d > > I have no name!@shop:~$ whoami > > whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000 > > > > Yet I exist in both the original /etc/passwd, /etc/group as 1000:1000 > > I've never used amanda (to complex for my little laptop), so I'm > clueless about that, but could you check the permissions on these: > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1002 2011-01-20 12:21 /etc/group > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2,0K 2010-12-10 00:14 /etc/passwd > > I just reproduced the above problem by removing read permissions. > > --Reinhold A tip of this old farts blaze orange winter hunting cap to Reinhold, I believe that was it as I found all the files that I had reverted by doing the mv file- to file, to have no read perms for other than root. Thank you very much. However, in order to fix my ssh login, I logged out and back in so I am now presented with a 'gene at shop' prompt. But now I've lost my entry in sudoers, damn. That I assume is a reboot to level 1 fix only? The sudoers file looks like this now: # User privilege specification root ALL=(ALL) ALL # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command after they have # provided their password # (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move # it further down) %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL # #includedir /etc/sudoers.d # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL IIRC that % sign means its a comment too? I just waded through the snow and tried to get to the boot menu about 7 or 8 times, but it cannot be done with all the speedboot fixings. So, how do we get a rescue mode with this now, or am I resigned to taking a cd out there & seeing if I can recall how to edit the perms on the sudoers file, which are 444 now and should be 440, so it will not use it, locking me out. I guess thats the next step anyway, back later. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I want to kill everyone here with a cute colorful Hydrogen Bomb!! From rrumberger at web.de Thu Feb 3 21:46:08 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (reini) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:46:08 +0100 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102031553.08125.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102031953.19792.rrumberger@web.de> <201102031553.08125.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102032246.10152.rrumberger@web.de> On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 21:53:07, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, February 03, 2011 03:17:17 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > > On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 19:29:17, gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings; > > > > > > I tried to synchronize my usernum between this machine, and the shop > > > machine, which amanda also backs up. By modifying everything in /etc > > > to renumber the user gene from 1000 to 500 like it is here on this > > > pclos box. That did not gain me write perms in /home/gene on the shop > > > box, so I reverted everything. > > > > > > I can ssh into this machine as 'gene', using my usual passwd, but the > > > prompt is: > > > root at shop:/var# logout <-i did a ctrl+d > > > I have no name!@shop:~$ whoami > > > whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000 > > > > > > Yet I exist in both the original /etc/passwd, /etc/group as 1000:1000 > > > > I've never used amanda (to complex for my little laptop), so I'm > > clueless about that, but could you check the permissions on these: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1002 2011-01-20 12:21 /etc/group > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2,0K 2010-12-10 00:14 /etc/passwd > > > > I just reproduced the above problem by removing read permissions. > > A tip of this old farts blaze orange winter hunting cap to Reinhold, I > believe that was it as I found all the files that I had reverted by doing > the mv file- to file, to have no read perms for other than root. :-) > Thank you very much. However, in order to fix my ssh login, I logged out > and back in so I am now presented with a 'gene at shop' prompt. But now I've > lost my entry in sudoers, damn. That I assume is a reboot to level 1 fix > only? Well, you can also try the init=/bin/bash thing. It would kind of defeat the purpose of using sudo only if you could fix this without pyhsical access to the machine. Unless you set the root password... > The sudoers file looks like this now: > # User privilege specification > root ALL=(ALL) ALL > > # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command after they have > # provided their password > # (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move > # it further down) > %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL > # > #includedir /etc/sudoers.d > > # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges > %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL > > IIRC that % sign means its a comment too? Nope. Means it's a group, not a user. > I just waded through the snow and tried to get to the boot menu about 7 or > 8 times, but it cannot be done with all the speedboot fixings. So holding shift doesn't work? I would suggest using "grub-reboot ", but that would need root permissions... > So, how do we get a rescue mode with this now, or am I resigned to taking a > cd out there & seeing if I can recall how to edit the perms on the sudoers > file, which are 444 now and should be 440, so it will not use it, locking > me out. I guess thats the next step anyway, back later. Depending on which live cd, mounting could be problematic (I prefer Knoppix which makes this easy). Apart from that it is as simple as doing a "sudo chmod o-g /etc/sudoers" on the live system, so that shouldn't be a problem. Sorry, but I don't know any other way. --Reinhold From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Feb 3 22:06:38 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:06:38 -0500 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102031553.08125.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102031953.19792.rrumberger@web.de> <201102031553.08125.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102031706.39017.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday, February 03, 2011 04:46:39 pm gene heskett did opine: > On Thursday, February 03, 2011 03:17:17 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > > On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 19:29:17, gene heskett wrote: > > > Greetings; > > > > > > I tried to synchronize my usernum between this machine, and the shop > > > machine, which amanda also backs up. By modifying everything in > > > /etc to renumber the user gene from 1000 to 500 like it is here on > > > this pclos box. That did not gain me write perms in /home/gene on > > > the shop box, so I reverted everything. > > > > > > I can ssh into this machine as 'gene', using my usual passwd, but > > > the prompt is: > > > root at shop:/var# logout <-i did a ctrl+d > > > I have no name!@shop:~$ whoami > > > whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000 > > > > > > Yet I exist in both the original /etc/passwd, /etc/group as > > > 1000:1000 > > > > I've never used amanda (to complex for my little laptop), so I'm > > clueless about that, but could you check the permissions on these: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1002 2011-01-20 12:21 /etc/group > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2,0K 2010-12-10 00:14 /etc/passwd > > > > I just reproduced the above problem by removing read permissions. > > > > --Reinhold > > A tip of this old farts blaze orange winter hunting cap to Reinhold, I > believe that was it as I found all the files that I had reverted by > doing the mv file- to file, to have no read perms for other than root. > > Thank you very much. However, in order to fix my ssh login, I logged > out and back in so I am now presented with a 'gene at shop' prompt. But > now I've lost my entry in sudoers, damn. That I assume is a reboot to > level 1 fix only? > > The sudoers file looks like this now: > # User privilege specification > root ALL=(ALL) ALL > > # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command after they have > # provided their password > # (Note that later entries override this, so you might need to move > # it further down) > %sudo ALL=(ALL) ALL > # > #includedir /etc/sudoers.d > > # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges > %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL > > IIRC that % sign means its a comment too? > > I just waded through the snow and tried to get to the boot menu about 7 > or 8 times, but it cannot be done with all the speedboot fixings. > > So, how do we get a rescue mode with this now, or am I resigned to > taking a cd out there & seeing if I can recall how to edit the perms on > the sudoers file, which are 444 now and should be 440, so it will not > use it, locking me out. I guess thats the next step anyway, back > later. Later turned out to be quite an exercise, I carried about 5 various install cd's & dvd's out there, and finally found one with a "Rescue" mode. An old 32 bit F10 install dvd that I should have thrown out years ago. But even so, I could get the file perms to stick about the 1st 7 or 8 times I did the chroot /mnt/sysimage, the worked on the sudoers file, using up all told 2 full cycles of the 30 boot fsck timeouts before I was actually running. But now it appears that any error in the xorg.conf file triggers the failsafe mode, and that fails because it absolutely must run the vesa driver for this application as the other drivers tie up the interrupts for way too long and would destroy either the machine, or the parts it is carving. Unforch, by the time it finds the 'vesa' string in teh xorg.conf file, the kernel has already loaded the radeon driver and its helpers. So, what is the std procedure to blacklist the ati/radeon drivers from ever being loaded so that vesa can do its thing un-molested by the much greedier ati/radeon stuff? I doubt that removing them from /lib/modul;es/`uname - r`/kernel/drvers/video would help as they are probably included in the initrd. And I just rebooted to find that putting both ati and radeon into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf has no effect, they are still loaded and showing after a reboot. So, what's next here? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) "In matrimony, to hesitate is sometimes to be saved." -- Butler From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Feb 3 22:31:22 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:31:22 -0500 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102032246.10152.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102031553.08125.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102032246.10152.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102031731.23267.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday, February 03, 2011 05:07:30 pm reini did opine: [...] > Sorry, but I don't know any other way. > > --Reinhold Thanks Reinhold, I got that fixed so I can sudo again, see my other post just now. X problems, as in can't get rid of ati/radeon in the lsmod output. That locks out vesa, which is the driver it MUST use. I just added vesa to the /etc/modules file & yet another reboot in progress. And that didn't help. Now what? This all, videowise, worked until I updated the box about a week or 10 days ago. The end of the Xorg.0.log: (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01 at 00:00:0 (EE) VESA: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa (EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log and to think that all I really wanted to do here when I started on this little escapade, was to be able to write an email containing some helpful gcode snippets directly to a samba share mounted at /mnt/shop/home/gene/emc2/nc_files directory, being the user gene on both machines. I don't fully understand why I have got to do a total rebuild of one or the other installs just to save a file from kmail on this machine, without saving the file to a local directory, then calling up a root session of mc to do it with, then following up with a root session on that box to make that file (chown) usable to me, the common user. That isn't what linux is all about. :( So, how can I get rid of the radeon crap so it can use vesa? That is the next step in this recovery dance. Thanks again everybody. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Only great masters of style can succeed in being obtuse. -- Oscar Wilde Most UNIX programmers are great masters of style. -- The Unnamed Usenetter From rrumberger at web.de Thu Feb 3 23:00:51 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 00:00:51 +0100 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102031731.23267.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102032246.10152.rrumberger@web.de> <201102031731.23267.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102040000.52575.rrumberger@web.de> On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 23:31:22, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, February 03, 2011 05:07:30 pm reini did opine: > Now what? This all, videowise, worked until I updated the box about a week > or 10 days ago. The end of the Xorg.0.log: > > (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01 at 00:00:0 > (EE) VESA: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load This is due to all that new modesetting stuff happening in the kernel. You want the nomodeset option: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 From what I read that option will be removed at some point in time, so I'm not sure what will happen then... --Reinhold From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Feb 4 00:06:33 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:06:33 -0500 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102040000.52575.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102031731.23267.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102040000.52575.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102031906.33824.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday, February 03, 2011 06:34:43 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 23:31:22, gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, February 03, 2011 05:07:30 pm reini did opine: > > > > Now what? This all, videowise, worked until I updated the box about a > > week or 10 days ago. The end of the Xorg.0.log: > > > > (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa > > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01 at 00:00:0 > > (EE) VESA: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load > > > > This is due to all that new modesetting stuff happening in the kernel. > > You want the nomodeset option: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 > > From what I read that option will be removed at some point in time, so > I'm not sure what will happen then... > > --Reinhold In that event, all the users of emc, and there are hundreds (that we know of) scattered about this planet, will be screwed. This is a case of none of the 'improved' drivers being usable, and the vendor drivers are deadly because they get their performance largely by hogging the IRQ's, often for hundreds of milliseconds at a time, deadly on a machine that is expected to output the next step command to the motor drivers in a loop with a sub 50 microsecond cycle time. You cannot tell a stepper motor to come to a complete halt from 450 rpm, wait for 300 milliseconds, and resume that 450 rpm when the video card decides to let go so the real application can do its thing. Unable to get back to speed, it will maybe take 1/8th step and lock up. If it happened to all 4 motors at once, it would just be a stalled machine requiring all axises to have their zero points reset, the speed slowed some, and the whole program restarted from the top. That may, and likely will waste several hours getting back to the point where it stalled on a previous run, but if it only happens to one of the motors that was moving the cutting bit out of the way so it can then traverse to the next cutting point, that traverse which is supposed to be done with clearance, may well plow the bit crossways through the workpiece a quarter inch deep. That will wreck the part of course, and quite likely break a $20+ solid carbide milling cutter into 2 pieces worth only the raw price of the weight of the carbide itself. Perhaps 50 cents? Anyway, that once again was the magic potion, fixing it up nicely, but the picked resolution of 1024x768 is quite a bit less than that monitors native resolution of about 1650x1280. Could this be alleviated by adding an option = edid in the device section of xorg.conf? Or even a vga=798 or some such on the kernel line? The monitor is an lcd, a recent AOC made unit. From the Xorg.0.log, it looks like edid is at least read: (II) VESA(0): EDID (in hex): (II) VESA(0): 00ffffffffffff0005e3311841c80000 (II) VESA(0): 1a140103682917782aeed1a555489b26 (II) VESA(0): 125054bfee00310a614c010101010101 (II) VESA(0): 010101010101662156aa51001e30468f (II) VESA(0): 33009dea1000001e662150b051001b30 (II) VESA(0): 4070360022130000001e000000fd0037 (II) VESA(0): 4b1e5109000a202020202020000000fc (II) VESA(0): 00383331570a2020202020202020003e (II) VESA(0): EDID vendor "AOC", prod id 6193 (II) VESA(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync (II) VESA(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh but I have no clue how to decode that... :( Or is this just the limits of the vesa driver? The Xorg.0.log contains about 50k of its looking at all available modes before picking the one it ends up using. It seems like there should be a way to nudge it in the right direction. OTOH, the machine is running beautifully, with instant response to the keyboard motion keys and can once again 'do good work' ;-) Thanks Reinhold. A bunch! -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre! [It is magnificent, but it is not war] -- Pierre Bosquet, witnessing the charge of the Light Brigade From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Fri Feb 4 11:21:29 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 11:21:29 +0000 Subject: Standard (KDE) key-bindings Message-ID: <4D4BE139.103@btinternet.com> I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can anybody point me in the right direction: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *General *Ctrl* keys* *Ctrl*+*A* Select all. *Ctrl*+*PageDown* Move to the lower part in the current directory. *Ctrl*+*F1..F12* Standard (KDE) key-bindings. *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12* Standard (KDE) key-bindings. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is an excerpt from 'http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-utils/krusader/key_bindings.html' I've googled for every phrase in this with no luck. brian From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri Feb 4 12:19:51 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:19:51 +0200 Subject: Standard (KDE) key-bindings In-Reply-To: <4D4BE139.103@btinternet.com> References: <4D4BE139.103@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <201102041419.51859.gkourtev@gmail.com> On Friday, February 04, 2011 13:21:29 Brian Wootton wrote: > I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find > anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can > anybody point me in the right direction: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------- > > *General *Ctrl* keys* > > *Ctrl*+*A* > > > > Select all. > > *Ctrl*+*PageDown* > > > > Move to the lower part in the current directory. > > *Ctrl*+*F1..F12* > > > > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. > > *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12* > > > > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. > Did you try System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures? gk From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Sat Feb 5 02:44:17 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 02:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: display problem In-Reply-To: <1492872811.385587.1296873473082.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1759076039.385850.1296873857763.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I am running kubuntu 10.10/KDE SC 4.6 on a Thinkpad T400 with Intel graphics (GMA 4500). I configured my desktop with an external monitor attached and run an extended virtual desktop spanning both monitors. I have a panel on the laptop monitor only and different wall papers on each monitor with folderview set to display the Desktop folder, but with files displayed on one monitor and folders on the other. When I boot the machine without the external monitor, it seems as if the external monitor display is rendered on top of the internal monitor display. Only the folders from the external screen are visible and the panel (which lives on the laptop monitor) is hidden. All windows open to the internal monitor display and are thus hidden and can't be accessed. The same thing happens if I use xrandr to turn off the external monitor and display everything on the laptop monitor. This problem has to do with KDE, not X or xorg.conf, since LXDE behaves normally, showing only a small screen on the single monitor or a large screen when the external monitor is detected. Also changing xorg.conf doesn't fix anything. The only solution I see is to use a cloned display or turn off the laptop monitor when using KDE or switch to another display manager. HELP! Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrumberger at web.de Sat Feb 5 10:05:45 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 11:05:45 +0100 Subject: My shop box has no users! In-Reply-To: <201102031906.33824.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201102031329.17680.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201102040000.52575.rrumberger@web.de> <201102031906.33824.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201102051105.47427.rrumberger@web.de> On Freitag 04 Februar 2011, 01:06:33, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, February 03, 2011 06:34:43 pm Reinhold Rumberger did opine: > > On Donnerstag 03 Februar 2011, 23:31:22, gene heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 03, 2011 05:07:30 pm reini did opine: > > > > > > > Now what? This all, videowise, worked until I updated the box about a > > > week or 10 days ago. The end of the Xorg.0.log: > > > > > > (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa > > > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01 at 00:00:0 > > > (EE) VESA: Kernel modesetting driver in use, refusing to load > > > > > > > > This is due to all that new modesetting stuff happening in the kernel. > > > > You want the nomodeset option: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 > > > > From what I read that option will be removed at some point in time, so > > I'm not sure what will happen then... > > In that event, all the users of emc, and there are hundreds (that we know > of) scattered about this planet, will be screwed. I'm sure it can be compiled out of the kernel, after all it would only be deadweight on most server machines. I assume there will be a different kernel version available in the repos for those who prefer to work without it. No reason to panic... ;-) It's just that the kernel parameter will vanish, but even that will only happen once KMS is stable and mature enough, so I guess it will be around for a while yet... :-P > Anyway, that once again was the magic potion, fixing it up nicely, but the > picked resolution of 1024x768 is quite a bit less than that monitors native > resolution of about 1650x1280. While I'm not sure what the maximum resolution supported by the vesa driver is, you can try it out using krandrtray in KDE or xrandr from any command line. It will show (& let you select) all available resolutions. (You may have to edit xorg.conf to persist any change here.) If no better resolution is displayed, you'll either have to live with 1024x768 or try manually setting additional resolutions in xorg.conf. See countless tutorials around the internet on how to do this. Also see the Monitor section of "man xorg.conf". > Could this be alleviated by adding an > option = edid in the device section of xorg.conf? I've never seen any EDID stuff in xorg.conf, but then I haven't been doing much tweaking of my xorg.conf since 9.04 kept freezing my X. In fact, I currently don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf. > Or even a vga=798 or > some such on the kernel line? That will only affect the vesafb and shouldn't do anything to X. (Luckily, as it would probably have screwed my X several times already if it did... :-P ) > but I have no clue how to decode that... :( Me neither - I don't think we should have to as long as we don't develop drivers... > Or is this just the limits of the vesa driver? man 4 vesa doesn't seem to mention any limits apart from colour depth. > The Xorg.0.log contains > about 50k of its looking at all available modes before picking the one it > ends up using. It seems like there should be a way to nudge it in the > right direction. OTOH, the machine is running beautifully, with instant > response to the keyboard motion keys and can once again 'do good work' ;-) > > Thanks Reinhold. A bunch! You're welcome. I always enjoy helping and the research I do often comes in handy when I run into trouble myself. --Reinhold PS: Sorry for the delay, Fridays are always rather busy for me and yesterday I was so tired, I just went straight to bed. From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sat Feb 5 15:37:43 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:37:43 +0000 Subject: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D4D6EC7.4070409@btinternet.com> On 05/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >> I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find >> > anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can >> > anybody point me in the right direction: >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ----------------------- >> > >> > *General*Ctrl* keys* >> > >> > *Ctrl*+*A >> > Select >> > *Ctrl*+*PageDown* >> > Move to the lower part in the current directory. >> > >> > *Ctrl*+*F1..F12* >> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >> > >> > *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12* >> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >> > > Did you try System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures? > gk > > Yes, amongst a lot of other places, couldn't see them there or anywhere else, hence this query. brian From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 17:55:46 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:55:46 -0700 Subject: maverick: HP Officejet 4215 no longer prints text Message-ID: <4D4D8F22.2020803@gmail.com> I just bit the bullet and moved my wife's computer up from hardy all the way up to maverick (since this is the first version of KDE4 that I've found passably usable). But her HP Officejet 4215 no longer works properly: graphics print fine, but when printing text the print head moves, but no text is actually printed. Does anyone know how I can get her printer working again? Doc PS There's another unrelated issue, for which I'll start a separate thread. -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Sat Feb 5 18:11:20 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:11:20 -0700 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons Message-ID: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> On my wife's maverick system (but not on mine), the Firefox forward/back buttons are missing. After some investigation, it seems that they are present, but of zero size (i.e., it's as if FF can't find or simply isn't displaying the icons). If I set the toolbar to [icons + text] then the buttons are present and usable: it's just that there is no icon on them. Googling seems to show that this is not an unheard-of problem (although why it should occur on onely one of the three maverick systems here is a puzzle), but I haven't been able to find a fix that works. So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Googling seems to show that this > is not an unheard-of problem (although why it should occur on onely one of > the three maverick systems here is a puzzle), but I haven't been able to > find a fix that works. > > So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? > > Doc You could perhaps try changing the icon theme to see if they become visible again. Are you using the standard theme/icon set? -- // Isak From rrumberger at web.de Sat Feb 5 19:11:03 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:11:03 +0100 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102052011.03549.rrumberger@web.de> On Samstag 05 Februar 2011, 19:11:20, D. R. Evans wrote: > On my wife's maverick system (but not on mine), the Firefox forward/back > buttons are missing. > > After some investigation, it seems that they are present, but of zero size > (i.e., it's as if FF can't find or simply isn't displaying the icons). If I > set the toolbar to [icons + text] then the buttons are present and usable: > it's just that there is no icon on them. Googling seems to show that this > is not an unheard-of problem (although why it should occur on onely one of > the three maverick systems here is a puzzle), but I haven't been able to > find a fix that works. > > So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? You need to install gnome-icon-theme --Reinhold From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Feb 7 23:48:25 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:48:25 -0700 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <201102051930.21680.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <201102051930.21680.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5084C9.9060306@gmail.com> Isak Enström said the following at 02/05/2011 11:30 AM : > On Saturday 05 February 2011 19.11.20 D. R. Evans wrote: >> On my wife's maverick system (but not on mine), the Firefox forward/back >> buttons are missing. >> >> After some investigation, it seems that they are present, but of zero size >> (i.e., it's as if FF can't find or simply isn't displaying the icons). If I >> set the toolbar to [icons + text] then the buttons are present and usable: >> it's just that there is no icon on them. Googling seems to show that this >> is not an unheard-of problem (although why it should occur on onely one of >> the three maverick systems here is a puzzle), but I haven't been able to >> find a fix that works. >> >> So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? >> >> Doc > > You could perhaps try changing the icon theme to see if they become visible > again. Are you using the standard theme/icon set? Yes, using the standard icon theme. Do you have a recommendation for a different theme to try? (I tried searching for a new icon theme but I'm not sure where to find them. All I could find at addons.mozilla.org were themes that altered the entire appearance of FF, not just the icons.) Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Googling seems to show that this >> is not an unheard-of problem (although why it should occur on onely one of >> the three maverick systems here is a puzzle), but I haven't been able to >> find a fix that works. >> >> So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? > > You need to install gnome-icon-theme > I installed it, logged out, logged back in and started FF, and nothing seems to look any different :-( In particular, the back/forward icons are still missing. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Tue Feb 8 00:22:39 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:22:39 +0200 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <201102052011.03549.rrumberger@web.de> <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D508CCF.9080408@whamra.com> On 02/08/2011 01:50 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: > Reinhold Rumberger said the following at 02/05/2011 12:11 PM : >> On Samstag 05 Februar 2011, 19:11:20, D. R. Evans wrote: >>> On my wife's maverick system (but not on mine), the Firefox forward/back >>> buttons are missing. >>> >>> After some investigation, it seems that they are present, but of zero size >>> (i.e., it's as if FF can't find or simply isn't displaying the icons). If I >>> set the toolbar to [icons + text] then the buttons are present and usable: >>> it's just that there is no icon on them. Googling seems to show that this >>> is not an unheard-of problem (although why it should occur on onely one of >>> the three maverick systems here is a puzzle), but I haven't been able to >>> find a fix that works. >>> >>> So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? >> >> You need to install gnome-icon-theme >> > > I installed it, logged out, logged back in and started FF, and nothing > seems to look any different :-( In particular, the back/forward icons are > still missing. > > Doc > > i compile firefox from source on my computer, i update it about once every month. starting from around mid-December, i had the problem you described. the button is there, clickable (yet hard to catch, very thin), but it has no icons. glitches in the panorama icon were common too. i resolved it by using a different theme. i use the "strata reloaded" theme, which is almost the same default theme of the Windows version of FF (i know, mozilla are unfair, linux gets the crappy theme, and windows gets the eye-candy). i do have gnome-icon-theme installed, but it resolved nothing. i am not sure if this is a mozilla bug or an ubuntu bug, but i think it's the latter. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From rrumberger at web.de Tue Feb 8 00:36:40 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:36:40 +0100 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <201102052011.03549.rrumberger@web.de> <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102080136.40478.rrumberger@web.de> On Dienstag 08 Februar 2011, 00:50:28, D. R. Evans wrote: > Reinhold Rumberger said the following at 02/05/2011 12:11 PM : > > On Samstag 05 Februar 2011, 19:11:20, D. R. Evans wrote: > >> On my wife's maverick system (but not on mine), the Firefox forward/back > >> buttons are missing. > >> > >> After some investigation, it seems that they are present, but of zero > >> size (i.e., it's as if FF can't find or simply isn't displaying the > >> icons). If I set the toolbar to [icons + text] then the buttons are > >> present and usable: it's just that there is no icon on them. Googling > >> seems to show that this is not an unheard-of problem (although why it > >> should occur on onely one of the three maverick systems here is a > >> puzzle), but I haven't been able to find a fix that works. > >> > >> So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? > > > > You need to install gnome-icon-theme > > I installed it, logged out, logged back in and started FF, and nothing > seems to look any different :-( In particular, the back/forward icons are > still missing. I'm pretty sure that's what fixed it for me. The reason for this was something about firefox hardcoding the icons' exact names an someone changing the location of the 'ltr' in the icons' names (or something similar) in the name generation algorithm in GTK and subsequently in the icon's names themselves. Anyway, since I can't remember the exact keywords I used to actually find info on this, here's how to do it yourself: Open a konsole and start firefox (make sure no other instance is running first!). Firefox should then output a lot of GTK warnings about missing icons. Use one of them to formulate a meaningful google query. It might help to install the hicolor-icon-theme, I'm not sure about that, but I guess it is worth a try. --Reinhold PS: I believe I saw a launchpad bug for this, but I can't find it right now. From rrumberger at web.de Tue Feb 8 00:57:20 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:57:20 +0100 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <201102080136.40478.rrumberger@web.de> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> <201102080136.40478.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102080157.20547.rrumberger@web.de> On Dienstag 08 Februar 2011, 01:36:40, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Dienstag 08 Februar 2011, 00:50:28, D. R. Evans wrote: > > Reinhold Rumberger said the following at 02/05/2011 12:11 PM : > > > On Samstag 05 Februar 2011, 19:11:20, D. R. Evans wrote: > > >> On my wife's maverick system (but not on mine), the Firefox > > >> forward/back buttons are missing. > > >> > > >> After some investigation, it seems that they are present, but of zero > > >> size (i.e., it's as if FF can't find or simply isn't displaying the > > >> icons). If I set the toolbar to [icons + text] then the buttons are > > >> present and usable: it's just that there is no icon on them. Googling > > >> seems to show that this is not an unheard-of problem (although why it > > >> should occur on onely one of the three maverick systems here is a > > >> puzzle), but I haven't been able to find a fix that works. > > >> > > >> So, does anyone know how to get the forward/back icons to appear? > > > > > > You need to install gnome-icon-theme > > > > I installed it, logged out, logged back in and started FF, and nothing > > seems to look any different :-( In particular, the back/forward icons are > > still missing. > > I'm pretty sure that's what fixed it for me. The reason for this was > something about firefox hardcoding the icons' exact names an someone > changing the location of the 'ltr' in the icons' names (or something > similar) in the name generation algorithm in GTK and subsequently in the > icon's names themselves. > > Anyway, since I can't remember the exact keywords I used to actually find > info on this, here's how to do it yourself: > Open a konsole and start firefox (make sure no other instance is running > first!). Firefox should then output a lot of GTK warnings about missing > icons. Use one of them to formulate a meaningful google query. > > It might help to install the hicolor-icon-theme, I'm not sure about that, > but I guess it is worth a try. > > --Reinhold > PS: I believe I saw a launchpad bug for this, but I can't find it right > now. Found the gnome report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629878 From bqz69 at telia.com Tue Feb 8 04:31:49 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 04:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> <201102080136.40478.rrumberger@web.de> <201102080157.20547.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: Try icecat 3.6.13 From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 19:06:01 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:06:01 -0700 Subject: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) In-Reply-To: <4D4D6EC7.4070409@btinternet.com> References: <4D4D6EC7.4070409@btinternet.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Wootton wrote: > On 05/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >>> >>> I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find >>> >  anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can >>> >  anybody point me in the right direction: >>> >  > >>> >  --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >  ----------------------- >>> >  >  *General*Ctrl*  keys* >>> >  >  *Ctrl*+*A >>>  >  Select >>> >  *Ctrl*+*PageDown* >>> >  Move to the lower part in the current directory. >>> >  >  *Ctrl*+*F1..F12* >>> >  Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>> >  >  *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12* >>> >  Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>> > >> >> Did you try System Settings ------>  Shortcuts and Gestures? >> gk >> >> > Yes, amongst a lot of other places, couldn't see them there or anywhere > else, hence this query. It would be nice if there were just one place to find this, but it isn't quite that simple. System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures shows you three icons: "Custom Shortcuts", "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts", and "Global Keyboard Shortcuts". The keybindings are distrubuted among these 3 things, each with several sub-categories just to make this more difficult. If you don't see this, then you need to fix you systemsettings tool. Many of the settings are in the standard shortcuts which is also the easiest to understand. These are apparently the shortcuts that are used by all KDE apps. You can click on the "Shortcut" column to sort by shortcut which helps find the one you want. Most of the bindings are in the global shortcuts. Unfortunately, these are broken up into different KDE components. So, if I am looking for, say, Control-F1, which is bound to "Switch to Desktop 1" on my machine, I have to go through the different components before I find it in the KWin settings. There is also "Custom Shortucts" that I've never had to deal with. Michael From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed Feb 9 13:04:01 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:04:01 +0000 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 73, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D5290C1.9040308@btinternet.com> On 09/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >>>> I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find >>>>> >>> > anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can >>>>> >>> > anybody point me in the right direction: >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>> > ----------------------- >>>>> >>> > > *General*Ctrl* keys* >>>>> >>> > > *Ctrl*+*A >>>> >>> > Select >>>>> >>> > *Ctrl*+*PageDown* >>>>> >>> > Move to the lower part in the current directory. >>>>> >>> > > *Ctrl*+*F1..F12* >>>>> >>> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>>>> >>> > > *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12* >>>>> >>> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>>>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Did you try System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures? >>> >> gk >>> >> >>> >> >> > Yes, amongst a lot of other places, couldn't see them there or anywhere >> > else, hence this query. > It would be nice if there were just one place to find this, but it > isn't quite that simple. > > System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures shows you three icons: > "Custom Shortcuts", "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts", and "Global > Keyboard Shortcuts". The keybindings are distrubuted among these 3 > things, each with several sub-categories just to make this more > difficult. > > If you don't see this, then you need to fix you systemsettings tool. > > Many of the settings are in the standard shortcuts which is also the > easiest to understand. These are apparently the shortcuts that are > used by all KDE apps. You can click on the "Shortcut" column to sort > by shortcut which helps find the one you want. > > Most of the bindings are in the global shortcuts. Unfortunately, > these are broken up into different KDE components. So, if I am > looking for, say, Control-F1, which is bound to "Switch to Desktop 1" > on my machine, I have to go through the different components before I > find it in the KWin settings. > > There is also "Custom Shortucts" that I've never had to deal with. > > Michael > > OK(sigh) I'll have to try and dig them out piecemeal, if I do manage this , perhaps I can post the resultant lists here for vetting? ta muchly for the info. brian From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 13:41:25 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:41:25 +0200 Subject: missing distribution lists KAdressbook Message-ID: <4D529985.3050405@gmail.com> Did upgrade to KDE 4.6 SC on Kubuntu 10.10. For the umpteenth time the distribuiton lists went missing... As far as I can see I have one akonadi-resource for adressbook that is to be used for both contacts and lists and they disappear EVERY time I upgrade KDE.. or so it feels at least. anyone has an idea of where to start cause I am tired of recreating them Sinclair From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Wed Feb 9 15:48:45 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:48:45 -0500 Subject: missing distribution lists KAdressbook In-Reply-To: <4D529985.3050405@gmail.com> References: <4D529985.3050405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102091048.45744.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Wednesday, February 09, 2011, O. Sinclair wrote: > Did upgrade to KDE 4.6 SC on Kubuntu 10.10. For the umpteenth time the > distribuiton lists went missing... > > As far as I can see I have one akonadi-resource for adressbook that is > to be used for both contacts and lists and they disappear EVERY time I > upgrade KDE.. or so it feels at least. > > anyone has an idea of where to start cause I am tired of recreating them > > Sinclair How about /~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf ?? that's where all your contacts are in the address book. I run XFCE and have to go dig for that every time I boot, but I don't have any lists so they might be somewhere else. From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Wed Feb 9 15:51:09 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:51:09 +0000 Subject: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) (Michael Hirsch) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D52B7ED.9030701@btinternet.com> On 09/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Subject: > Re: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) > From: > Michael Hirsch > Date: > Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:06:01 -0700 > > To: > Kubuntu user technical support > > > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Wootton wrote: >> > On 05/02/11 12:00,kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find >>>>> >>> > anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can >>>>> >>> > anybody point me in the right direction: >>>>> >>> > > >>>>> >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>> > ----------------------- >>>>> >>> > > *General*Ctrl* keys* >>>>> >>> > > *Ctrl*+*A >>>> >>> > Select >>>>> >>> > *Ctrl*+*PageDown* >>>>> >>> > Move to the lower part in the current directory. >>>>> >>> > > *Ctrl*+*F1..F12* >>>>> >>> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>>>> >>> > > *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12* >>>>> >>> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>>>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Did you try System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures? >>> >> gk >>> >> >>> >> >> > Yes, amongst a lot of other places, couldn't see them there or anywhere >> > else, hence this query. > It would be nice if there were just one place to find this, but it > isn't quite that simple. > > System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures shows you three icons: > "Custom Shortcuts", "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts", and "Global > Keyboard Shortcuts". The keybindings are distrubuted among these 3 > things, each with several sub-categories just to make this more > difficult. > > If you don't see this, then you need to fix you systemsettings tool. > > Many of the settings are in the standard shortcuts which is also the > easiest to understand. These are apparently the shortcuts that are > used by all KDE apps. You can click on the "Shortcut" column to sort > by shortcut which helps find the one you want. > > Most of the bindings are in the global shortcuts. Unfortunately, > these are broken up into different KDE components. So, if I am > looking for, say, Control-F1, which is bound to "Switch to Desktop 1" > on my machine, I have to go through the different components before I > find it in the KWin settings. > > There is also "Custom Shortucts" that I've never had to deal with. > > Michael > > Sorry to be a dumb- bunny but I've again searched System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures and I can't find any of CTRL Fx or SHFT Fx mentioned anywhere in it. I have Kubuntu 10.10 on an amd64 and have not touched System Settings as installed from the downloaded .iso. I can't even find Kwin, I do have the 'Custom', 'Standard' and 'Global' icons but in none of them is there any mention of CTRL F(any) or SHFT F(any) or Kwin. Like I say the listings in 'http://www.krusader.org/handbook/key_bindings.html' at least reference them under 'General CTRL keys' even if it doesn't list them. Is there a newer or different version of System settings, cos I don't think I can have the same one you are describing. brian From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 20:18:10 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:18:10 -0700 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <4D508CCF.9080408@whamra.com> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <201102052011.03549.rrumberger@web.de> <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> <4D508CCF.9080408@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4D52F682.8030407@gmail.com> Waleed Hamra said the following at 02/07/2011 05:22 PM : > too. i resolved it by using a different theme. i use the "strata > reloaded" theme, which is almost the same default theme of the Windows That seems to change a whole lot more than just icons... I'm pretty sure my wife would be not at all happy with changes in dialogue boxes and "hover effects". I still haven't been able to find anything called an "icon theme"... obviously looking in the wrong places. All the themes I've been able to find seem to change backgrounds, colour schemes and what-have-you. What I find weird is that my maverick systems are fine: it's just my wife's that can't find the forward/back icons, even though all the systems went through the same ordinary upgrade process from 10.04. I'm thinking that my wife is just going to have to do without the arrows until this gets fixed by Canonical or somewhere upstream. The printer bug (see e-mail <4D4D8F22.2020803 at gmail.com>) is much the more important, really. That might solve this bug as a secondary result of forcing my wife back to Windows :-( Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 20:18:18 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:18:18 -0700 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <201102080136.40478.rrumberger@web.de> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <201102052011.03549.rrumberger@web.de> <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> <201102080136.40478.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <4D52F68A.6020703@gmail.com> Reinhold Rumberger said the following at 02/07/2011 05:36 PM : > > Anyway, since I can't remember the exact keywords I used to actually find info > on this, here's how to do it yourself: > Open a konsole and start firefox (make sure no other instance is running > first!). Firefox should then output a lot of GTK warnings about missing icons. > Use one of them to formulate a meaningful google query. > OK, did that, and it was helpful for finding a lot of other people who have the same problem; thank you. It looks like the workaround is a patch that has to be applied to the FF configuration files. I'll have to ponder whether I want to run the risk of breaking my wife's FF installation. On the whole, I suspect it's better not to have the icons than run the risk of breakage... at least everything still works at the moment. > It might help to install the hicolor-icon-theme, I'm not sure about that, but > I guess it is worth a try. It was already installed. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 20:44:49 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (Isak =?iso-8859-1?q?Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 21:44:49 +0100 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <4D5084C9.9060306@gmail.com> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <201102051930.21680.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> <4D5084C9.9060306@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102092144.50068.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> On Tuesday 08 February 2011 00.48.25 D. R. Evans wrote: > Yes, using the standard icon theme. Do you have a recommendation for a > different theme to try? > > (I tried searching for a new icon theme but I'm not sure where to find > them. All I could find at addons.mozilla.org were themes that altered the > entire appearance of FF, not just the icons.) > > Doc You could try this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/faenza-cupertino-icons- come-to-kde-and-look-amazing/ This would apply to the whole desktop environment, not just Firefox. I'm actually using the standard icon theme myself so I don't know if it will solve your problem, but if I remember correctly the icons changed in Firefox when changing theme in Gnome. It could be worth a shot. -- // Isak From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 22:16:45 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:16:45 -0700 Subject: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) (Michael Hirsch) In-Reply-To: <4D52B7ED.9030701@btinternet.com> References: <4D52B7ED.9030701@btinternet.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Brian Wootton wrote: > On 09/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >> >> Subject: >> Re: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) >> From: >> Michael Hirsch >> Date: >> Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:06:01 -0700 >> >> To: >> Kubuntu user technical support >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Wootton >>  wrote: >>> >>> >  On 05/02/11 12:00,kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>  I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>  >    anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can >>>>>> >>>  >    anybody point me in the right direction: >>>>>> >>>  >    > >>>>>> >>>  > >>>>>> >>>  --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>  >    ----------------------- >>>>>> >>>  >    >    *General*Ctrl*    keys* >>>>>> >>>  >    >    *Ctrl*+*A >>>>> >>>>> >>>    >    Select >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>  >    *Ctrl*+*PageDown* >>>>>> >>>  >    Move to the lower part in the current directory. >>>>>> >>>  >    >    *Ctrl*+*F1..F12* >>>>>> >>>  >    Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>>>>> >>>  >    >    *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12* >>>>>> >>>  >    Standard (KDE) key-bindings. >>>>>> >>>  > >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>  Did you try System Settings ------>    Shortcuts and Gestures? >>>> >>  gk >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>> >  Yes, amongst a lot of other places, couldn't see them there or >>> > anywhere >>> >  else, hence this query. >> >> It would be nice if there were just one place to find this, but it >> isn't quite that simple. >> >> System Settings ------>   Shortcuts and Gestures shows you three icons: >> "Custom Shortcuts", "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts", and "Global >> Keyboard Shortcuts".  The keybindings are distrubuted among these 3 >> things, each with several sub-categories just to make this more >> difficult. >> >> If you don't see this, then you need to fix you systemsettings tool. >> >> Many of the settings are in the standard shortcuts which is also the >> easiest to understand.  These are apparently the shortcuts that are >> used by all KDE apps.  You can click on the "Shortcut" column to sort >> by shortcut which helps find the one you want. >> >> Most of the bindings are in the global shortcuts.  Unfortunately, >> these are broken up into different KDE components.  So, if I am >> looking for, say, Control-F1, which is bound to "Switch to Desktop 1" >> on my machine, I have to go through the different components before I >> find it in the KWin settings. >> >> There is also "Custom Shortucts" that I've never had to deal with. >> >> Michael >> >> > Sorry to be a dumb- bunny but I've again searched  System Settings ------> > Shortcuts and Gestures > and I can't find any of CTRL Fx or SHFT Fx mentioned anywhere in it. >  I have Kubuntu 10.10 on an amd64 and have not touched  System Settings as > installed from the > downloaded .iso. I can't even find Kwin, I do have the 'Custom', 'Standard' > and 'Global' icons but in none > of them is there any mention of CTRL F(any) or SHFT F(any) or Kwin. > > Like I say the listings in > 'http://www.krusader.org/handbook/key_bindings.html' at least reference them > under 'General CTRL keys' even if it doesn't list them. >  Is there a newer or different version of System settings, cos I don't think > I can have the same one you > are describing. This feature has been around in systemsettings for a long time. I don't think it matters if you are using KDE 4.5.4 or 4.5.5. Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing, here is a screenshot of systemsettings on my system. See the part labeled "KDE component:" and then the "KWin" label on the drop-down. What components do you have in that dropdown? https://photos-1.dropbox.com/i/l/2pCUg9yQ9VJ-PmY0zmgXQqxhmtq2nRwJRjZ3xDiTgSo/11678370/1297378800/4f54d6c#1 On a semi-related note--your emails to the list always seem to break gmail's threading. Are you using the reply button, or doing something unusual to create your replies? Michael From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Thu Feb 10 00:16:36 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:16:36 +0200 Subject: maverick: Firefox back/forward buttons In-Reply-To: <4D52F68A.6020703@gmail.com> References: <4D4D92C8.5030708@gmail.com> <201102052011.03549.rrumberger@web.de> <4D508544.2070902@gmail.com> <201102080136.40478.rrumberger@web.de> <4D52F68A.6020703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D532E64.5050105@whamra.com> On 02/09/2011 10:18 PM, D. R. Evans wrote: > Reinhold Rumberger said the following at 02/07/2011 05:36 PM : > >> >> Anyway, since I can't remember the exact keywords I used to actually find info >> on this, here's how to do it yourself: >> Open a konsole and start firefox (make sure no other instance is running >> first!). Firefox should then output a lot of GTK warnings about missing icons. >> Use one of them to formulate a meaningful google query. >> > > OK, did that, and it was helpful for finding a lot of other people who have > the same problem; thank you. > > It looks like the workaround is a patch that has to be applied to the FF > configuration files. I'll have to ponder whether I want to run the risk of > breaking my wife's FF installation. On the whole, I suspect it's better not > to have the icons than run the risk of breakage... at least everything > still works at the moment. > >> It might help to install the hicolor-icon-theme, I'm not sure about that, but >> I guess it is worth a try. > > It was already installed. > > Doc > > if the patch just modifies the configuration files of firefox in home, ie. the ".mozilla" directory in her home, you can simply back it up before the patching, just copy it somewhere, it's not too large :) -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 06:21:56 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:21:56 +0200 Subject: missing distribution lists KAdressbook In-Reply-To: <201102091048.45744.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4D529985.3050405@gmail.com> <201102091048.45744.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4D538404.30607@gmail.com> On 09/02/2011 17:48, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday, February 09, 2011, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Did upgrade to KDE 4.6 SC on Kubuntu 10.10. For the umpteenth time the >> distribuiton lists went missing... >> >> As far as I can see I have one akonadi-resource for adressbook that is >> to be used for both contacts and lists and they disappear EVERY time I >> upgrade KDE.. or so it feels at least. >> >> anyone has an idea of where to start cause I am tired of recreating them >> >> Sinclair > > > How about /~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf ?? > > that's where all your contacts are in the address book. > > I run XFCE and have to go dig for that every time I boot, but I don't have any > lists so they might be somewhere else. > Not anymore - they are now found in /~/.local/share/contacts when using Akonadi and they have gibberish names (they are vcf files as far as I can see) and a very explicit warning not to tamper with these as they are managed by Akonadi is issued in a readme file From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 11:43:32 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:43:32 +0200 Subject: missing distribution lists KAdressbook In-Reply-To: <201102091048.45744.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <4D529985.3050405@gmail.com> <201102091048.45744.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4D53CF64.2030409@gmail.com> On 09/02/2011 17:48, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Wednesday, February 09, 2011, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Did upgrade to KDE 4.6 SC on Kubuntu 10.10. For the umpteenth time the >> distribuiton lists went missing... >> >> As far as I can see I have one akonadi-resource for adressbook that is >> to be used for both contacts and lists and they disappear EVERY time I >> upgrade KDE.. or so it feels at least. >> >> anyone has an idea of where to start cause I am tired of recreating them >> It also seems new Groups/lists no longer works. I have been to userbase.kde on KAddressbook and akonadi, I have google, I have been to kubuntuforums. Nothing I have tried so far works. here is what happens when I want to use a new Group (my old ones are all blank...) * OK, I go to kmail, new message, and on the right of the address slot, I click on "select". Then ah! it seems I can select e.g "Family" (now it's called a "distribution list"). I click "Add", and now my recipient is "Family"... I send the message... it doesn't work: I immediately get an email saying: : Recipient address rejected: Access denied Am I the ONLY one on Kubuntu 10.10 w KDE 4.6 seeing this behaviour?? kind regards, Sinclair From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Thu Feb 10 19:25:32 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:25:32 +0000 Subject: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) (Michael, Hirsch) (Michael Hirsch) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D543BAC.8090302@btinternet.com> On 10/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Re: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) (Michael > Hirsch) (Michael Hirsch) My apologies to you all for wasting our time! For about a month now I've been having to re-boot a locked up machine which seemed to be doing this only while playing videos or music. I've just done an 'unplug the power from the power socket' boot - so far this seems to have cured the machine from locking up(fingers crossed, it also caused the OS to do a full disk check). The more amazing thing though is that instead of the only item in the global shortcuts drop down being 'KDE Daemon' I've now got 10 entries, one of which is, of course, 'KWin'! I don't think I want to try and work out what was actually wrong, I will just assume that there was a disc error somewhere caused by a dodgy SATA II connection which fsck found and corrected. Once again - sorry for this wild goose chase. brian From rjlapham at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 21:03:06 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:03:06 -0500 Subject: KindleForPC Message-ID: <201102101603.07033.rjlapham@gmail.com> Anybody getKindleForPC to run in wine? When I try it from Konsole I get jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine C:\\Program\ Files\\Amazon\\Kindle\ For\ PC\\KindleForPC.exe fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub! Any idea what or where SetProcessDPIAware stub is? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= "Given our monstrous, overgrown government structure, any three letters chosen at random would probably designate an agency or part of a department that could be profitably abolished." ---Milton Friedman From paul at lemmons.name Thu Feb 10 22:51:49 2011 From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:51:49 -0700 Subject: KindleForPC In-Reply-To: <201102101603.07033.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102101603.07033.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D546C05.8040502@lemmons.name> I know that Crossover Office is not free but it has been my experience that it is worth its price tag. The Kindle program is not well supported under Crossover but it is noted to work: https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=6636 I would load the trial and if it works, show your appreciation by purchasing it and if not, then show your displeasure by not. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: KindleForPC From: Jerry Lapham To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Date: 02/10/2011 02:03 PM > Anybody getKindleForPC to run in wine? When I try it from Konsole I get > > jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine C:\\Program\ > Files\\Amazon\\Kindle\ For\ PC\\KindleForPC.exe > fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub! > > Any idea what or where SetProcessDPIAware stub is? > > -Jerry > ============================================= > Jerry Lapham > Monroe, OH 45050 > rjlapham at gmail.com > ============================================= > "Given our monstrous, overgrown government structure, any three letters chosen > at random would probably designate an agency or part of a department that > could be profitably abolished." ---Milton Friedman > From gcsgcatling at bigpond.com Thu Feb 10 23:04:41 2011 From: gcsgcatling at bigpond.com (GeraldCC) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:04:41 +1000 Subject: K/UbuntuOS/ZorinOS 64 Message-ID: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> Hi To all, I have been trying K/Ubuntu and Zorin on 3 machines and the software seems to turn off the usb ports after a while--anywhere from 30sec to 30 mins. These system run IDE+SATA1+SATA2 combination. On a 4th machine, some 6YO a 64FX53, using only IDE drives this does not happen. All these systems feed through a Belkin usb hub to supply wireless keyboard and mouse. Your thoughts on this subject will be greatfully received. Gerald From kassube at gmx.net Fri Feb 11 06:01:46 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:01:46 +0100 Subject: K/UbuntuOS/ZorinOS 64 In-Reply-To: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> References: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <201102110701.47046.kassube@gmx.net> GeraldCC wrote: > I have been trying K/Ubuntu Which K/Ubuntu version is that? 10.04? 10.10? > and Zorin on 3 machines and the software > seems to turn off the usb ports after a while--anywhere from 30sec > to 30 mins. These system run IDE+SATA1+SATA2 combination. > On a 4th machine, some 6YO a 64FX53, using only IDE drives this does > not happen. I haven't seen that effect until now but I'm quite sure it doesn't depend on the way the disks are connected. Anyway, does the USB port still work if you connect a new device or is it really dead after the problem starts? > All these systems feed through a Belkin usb hub to supply wireless > keyboard and mouse. Wireless mouse reminds me of the part a friend of mine has. After a while the mouse doesn't work any longer and it wakes up only if you click once (left/right click doesn't matter). But probably you know about that bahaviour if your mouse does the same. What else is connected via USB? Could you connect the mouse/keyboard directly without the USB hub? After all it might as well be a faulty hub causing the problem. Nils From gcsgcatling at bigpond.com Fri Feb 11 06:22:37 2011 From: gcsgcatling at bigpond.com (GeraldCC) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:22:37 +1000 Subject: K/UbuntuOS/ZorinOS 64 In-Reply-To: <201102110701.47046.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> <201102110701.47046.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201102111622.38162.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> On Friday 11 February 2011 16:01:46 Nils Kassube wrote: > GeraldCC wrote: > > I have been trying K/Ubuntu > > Which K/Ubuntu version is that? 10.04? 10.10? > > > and Zorin on 3 machines and the software > > seems to turn off the usb ports after a while--anywhere from 30sec > > to 30 mins. These system run IDE+SATA1+SATA2 combination. > > On a 4th machine, some 6YO a 64FX53, using only IDE drives this does > > not happen. > > I haven't seen that effect until now but I'm quite sure it doesn't > depend on the way the disks are connected. Anyway, does the USB port > still work if you connect a new device or is it really dead after the > problem starts? > > > All these systems feed through a Belkin usb hub to supply wireless > > keyboard and mouse. > > Wireless mouse reminds me of the part a friend of mine has. After a > while the mouse doesn't work any longer and it wakes up only if you > click once (left/right click doesn't matter). But probably you know > about that bahaviour if your mouse does the same. > > What else is connected via USB? Could you connect the mouse/keyboard > directly without the USB hub? After all it might as well be a faulty hub > causing the problem. > > > Nils Hi Nils, Only a mouse/keyboard on the Belkin (7 port)hub. Kubuntu 10.10 the version of Zorin is 4. The system runs for a time then no mouse or keyboard. If I disconnect the hub from the Computer then reconnect there is no indication to show the usb is functional. I have tried Ubuntu 10.10 as well but the effect is the same. I normally run PCLinuxOS 2010.12 on my systems but feel a need to try others. Unfortunately others do not seem to work. Gerald From grey at dmiyu.org Fri Feb 11 08:08:24 2011 From: grey at dmiyu.org (Steve Lamb) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:08:24 -0800 Subject: KindleForPC In-Reply-To: <201102101603.07033.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102101603.07033.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D54EE78.8070109@dmiyu.org> On 02/10/2011 01:03 PM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > Anybody getKindleForPC to run in wine? When I try it from Konsole I get Yes. > jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine C:\\Program\ > Files\\Amazon\\Kindle\ For\ PC\\KindleForPC.exe > fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub! > Any idea what or where SetProcessDPIAware stub is? fixme messages aren't helpful. A program can work fine even if it spews dozens of fixme messages. In fact I just ran my Kindle install again. It loaded, returned to the last book I was reading on this version, wanted to update my last read position, and I successfully exited. Here's the console spew of that session, note the first message: {grey at mania:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Amazon/Kindle For PC} wine ./KindleForPC.exe fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub! fixme:dwmapi:DwmIsCompositionEnabled 0x33cfdc fixme:iphlpapi:NotifyAddrChange (Handle 0xa6fe8d8, overlapped 0xa6fe8e0): stub wine: configuration in '/home/grey/.wine' has been updated. fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33da78 fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl WS_SIO_UDP_CONNRESET stub fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33db30 err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {77f10cf0-3db5-4966-b520-b7c54fd35ed6} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {77f10cf0-3db5-4966-b520-b7c54fd35ed6} could be created for context 0x1 fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl WS_SIO_UDP_CONNRESET stub fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 120000 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 240000 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33b37c fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x337a54 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl WS_SIO_UDP_CONNRESET stub fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33baf0 So clearly that message isn't impacting the application's ability to run, nor are toeh other fixme messages. What, specifically, is happening? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... -------------------------------+--------------------------------------------- From kassube at gmx.net Fri Feb 11 12:58:29 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:58:29 +0100 Subject: K/UbuntuOS/ZorinOS 64 In-Reply-To: <201102111622.38162.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> References: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> <201102110701.47046.kassube@gmx.net> <201102111622.38162.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <201102111358.30020.kassube@gmx.net> GeraldCC wrote: > Only a mouse/keyboard on the Belkin (7 port)hub. > Kubuntu 10.10 the version of Zorin is 4. > The system runs for a time then no mouse or keyboard. > If I disconnect the hub from the Computer then reconnect there is no > indication to show the usb is functional. Did you try without the hub? > I have tried Ubuntu 10.10 as well but the effect is the same. > I normally run PCLinuxOS 2010.12 on my systems but feel a need to try > others. Unfortunately others do not seem to work. Does that mean it works with PCLinuxOS? Nils From rjlapham at gmail.com Fri Feb 11 19:07:29 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:07:29 -0500 Subject: KindleForPC In-Reply-To: <4D54EE78.8070109@dmiyu.org> References: <201102101603.07033.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4D54EE78.8070109@dmiyu.org> Message-ID: <201102111407.30030.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Friday, February 11, 2011 03:08:24 am Steve Lamb wrote: > On 02/10/2011 01:03 PM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > Anybody getKindleForPC to run in wine? When I try it from Konsole I get > > Yes. > > > jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ env WINEPREFIX="/home/jerry/.wine" wine C:\\Program\ > > Files\\Amazon\\Kindle\ For\ PC\\KindleForPC.exe > > fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub! > > > > Any idea what or where SetProcessDPIAware stub is? > > fixme messages aren't helpful. A program can work fine even if it > spews dozens of fixme messages. In fact I just ran my Kindle install > again. It loaded, returned to the last book I was reading on this > version, wanted to update my last read position, and I successfully > exited. Here's the console spew of that session, note the first message: > {grey at mania:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Amazon/Kindle For PC} wine > ./KindleForPC.exe > fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub! > fixme:dwmapi:DwmIsCompositionEnabled 0x33cfdc > fixme:iphlpapi:NotifyAddrChange (Handle 0xa6fe8d8, overlapped 0xa6fe8e0): > stub wine: configuration in '/home/grey/.wine' has been updated. > fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33da78 > fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl WS_SIO_UDP_CONNRESET stub > fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33db30 > err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {77f10cf0-3db5-4966-b520-b7c54fd35ed6} not > registered > err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object > {77f10cf0-3db5-4966-b520-b7c54fd35ed6} could be created for context 0x1 > fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl WS_SIO_UDP_CONNRESET stub > fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot > fixme:toolhelp:Heap32ListFirst : stub > fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT > 120000 fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW > INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 240000 > fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT > 30000 fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33b37c > fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x337a54 > fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 > fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 > fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 > fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 > fixme:wininet:InternetSetOptionW INTERNET_OPTION_SEND/RECEIVE_TIMEOUT 30000 > fixme:winsock:WSAIoctl WS_SIO_UDP_CONNRESET stub > fixme:win:FlashWindowEx 0x33baf0 > > So clearly that message isn't impacting the application's ability to > run, nor are toeh other fixme messages. What, specifically, is happening? Nothing. It just returns to the jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ prompt. Just like when I click on the desktop icon and it flashes for a bit and then goes away. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Slow children playing become slow men working From gcsgcatling at bigpond.com Fri Feb 11 21:27:31 2011 From: gcsgcatling at bigpond.com (GeraldCC) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:27:31 +1000 Subject: K/UbuntuOS/ZorinOS 64 In-Reply-To: <201102111358.30020.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> <201102111622.38162.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> <201102111358.30020.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201102120727.32002.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> On Friday 11 February 2011 22:58:29 Nils Kassube wrote: > GeraldCC wrote: > > Only a mouse/keyboard on the Belkin (7 port)hub. > > Kubuntu 10.10 the version of Zorin is 4. > > The system runs for a time then no mouse or keyboard. > > If I disconnect the hub from the Computer then reconnect there is no > > indication to show the usb is functional. > > Did you try without the hub? No, as putting a usb mouse straight into the machine. when the usb has been switched off, has not activated it.No mouse. But I will try with only the usb mouse and keyboard and if that fails a ps2 mouse and keyboard. But this is scraping the bottom of the barrel!!! > > > I have tried Ubuntu 10.10 as well but the effect is the same. > > I normally run PCLinuxOS 2010.12 on my systems but feel a need to try > > others. Unfortunately others do not seem to work. > > Does that mean it works with PCLinuxOS? YES. So I think that rules out a faulty machine. As a matter of fact, I tried ZorinOS4 in Virtualbox. It installed fine then after about 30secs, locked Virtualbox and PCLinuxOS. I am not sure what that means!!!!! Many thanks for coming back. Gerald > > > Nils From gcsgcatling at bigpond.com Fri Feb 11 21:55:43 2011 From: gcsgcatling at bigpond.com (GeraldCC) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:55:43 +1000 Subject: K/UbuntuOS/ZorinOS 64 In-Reply-To: <201102120727.32002.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> References: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> <201102111358.30020.kassube@gmx.net> <201102120727.32002.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <201102120755.43999.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> On Saturday 12 February 2011 07:27:31 GeraldCC wrote: > On Friday 11 February 2011 22:58:29 Nils Kassube wrote: > > GeraldCC wrote: > > > Only a mouse/keyboard on the Belkin (7 port)hub. > > > Kubuntu 10.10 the version of Zorin is 4. > > > The system runs for a time then no mouse or keyboard. > > > If I disconnect the hub from the Computer then reconnect there is no > > > indication to show the usb is functional. > > > > Did you try without the hub? > > No, as putting a usb mouse straight into the machine. when the usb has been > switched off, has not activated it.No mouse. > But I will try with only the usb mouse and keyboard and if that fails a ps2 > mouse and keyboard. But this is scraping the bottom of the barrel!!! > > > > I have tried Ubuntu 10.10 as well but the effect is the same. > > > I normally run PCLinuxOS 2010.12 on my systems but feel a need to try > > > others. Unfortunately others do not seem to work. > > > > Does that mean it works with PCLinuxOS? > > YES. So I think that rules out a faulty machine. > As a matter of fact, I tried ZorinOS4 in Virtualbox. It installed fine then > after about 30secs, locked Virtualbox and PCLinuxOS. > I am not sure what that means!!!!! By the way, The install on the all IDE box, the 64FX53, works through the same Belkin hub and does not loose the usb system. > Many thanks for coming back. But this system only has a 40GB drive. > Gerald > > > Nils From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 01:35:57 2011 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:35:57 +0700 Subject: KindleForPC In-Reply-To: <201102111407.30030.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102101603.07033.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4D54EE78.8070109@dmiyu.org> <201102111407.30030.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > Nothing.  It just returns to the jerry at JERRY-HP:~$ prompt.  Just like when I > click on the desktop icon and it flashes for a bit and then goes away. Have you tried to change to windows 98 mode? http://lifehacker.com/#!5406505/run-kindle-for-pc-in-linux-with-wine DK From rajuramvani at gmail.com Sat Feb 12 12:48:19 2011 From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (rajubhai ramvani) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:18:19 +0530 Subject: password not entered by any key. Message-ID: > > dear sir, when i am using terminal "*sudo aptget clean" *the display asking sudo password and when i am entering password the any key is not typing so dear sir.help me.and i am not can update os because error is coming "*sudo apt -get install-f*" so what is this please help me. rajuramvani. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Sat Feb 12 15:56:46 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:56:46 +0100 Subject: password not entered by any key. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102121656.47100.kassube@gmx.net> rajubhai ramvani wrote: > when i am using terminal "*sudo aptget clean" *the display asking > sudo password and when i am entering password the any key is not > typing so dear sir.help me.and i am not can update os because error > is coming "*sudo apt -get install-f*" so what is this please help > me. When you enter the password at the terminal there is no feedback, so you have to blindly enter the password. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sat Feb 12 16:14:18 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:14:18 +0100 Subject: K/UbuntuOS/ZorinOS 64 In-Reply-To: <201102120727.32002.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> References: <201102110904.41936.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> <201102111358.30020.kassube@gmx.net> <201102120727.32002.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <201102121714.18624.kassube@gmx.net> GeraldCC wrote: > On Friday 11 February 2011 22:58:29 Nils Kassube wrote: > > GeraldCC wrote: > > > Only a mouse/keyboard on the Belkin (7 port)hub. > > > Kubuntu 10.10 the version of Zorin is 4. > > > The system runs for a time then no mouse or keyboard. > > > If I disconnect the hub from the Computer then reconnect there is > > > no indication to show the usb is functional. > > > > Did you try without the hub? > > No, as putting a usb mouse straight into the machine. when the usb > has been switched off, has not activated it.No mouse. > But I will try with only the usb mouse and keyboard and if that fails > a ps2 mouse and keyboard. But this is scraping the bottom of the > barrel!!! > > > > I have tried Ubuntu 10.10 as well but the effect is the same. > > > I normally run PCLinuxOS 2010.12 on my systems but feel a need to > > > try others. Unfortunately others do not seem to work. > > > > Does that mean it works with PCLinuxOS? > > YES. So I think that rules out a faulty machine. Agreed - if it works with one OS but not with the other, there must be a software problem. However I don't have an idea what could be wrong. Maybe you could post the output of the command sudo lshw in a terminal. Then maybe someone else has an idea. > As a matter of fact, I tried ZorinOS4 in Virtualbox. It installed > fine then after about 30secs, locked Virtualbox and PCLinuxOS. > I am not sure what that means!!!!! That's really strange. Could this be a faulty memory? You can try the memtest option from the boot menu to rule that out. Nils From sysop183 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 17:12:16 2011 From: sysop183 at gmail.com (John) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:12:16 +0000 Subject: File Association Message-ID: <4D5810F0.9010408@theclan.co.uk> Hi, All I am new here, and to kubuntu, I have set up kUBUNTU 10.10 on my laptop (Extensa 5630Z), everything is going well, there is however a small problem with Thunderbird, and Firefox in that when I click a link in a file or from the desktop then Thunderbird fires up instead of Firefox ?? I decided to do a test by creating a "link to Location" on the desktop, called it test linked to "http://www.google.co.uk", when I clicked the link Thunderbird fired up together with a pop-up to set a program as the default (I thought woopeee! its sorting itself out) I selected /usr/bin/firefox and ticked the check box to make it permanent, shut Thunderbird down and tried again, now I get both Thunderbird and Firefox starting up, so a little progress. Now where do I remove the association for Thunderbird to stop it Starting up in the above situation ? I have Googled and and found nothing of help. All help much appreciated -- Best Regards John From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 18:03:00 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (Isak =?iso-8859-1?q?Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:03:00 +0100 Subject: File Association In-Reply-To: <4D5810F0.9010408@theclan.co.uk> References: <4D5810F0.9010408@theclan.co.uk> Message-ID: <201102131903.01208.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> On Sunday 13 February 2011 18.12.16 John wrote: > Hi, All > > I am new here, and to kubuntu, I have set up kUBUNTU 10.10 on my laptop > (Extensa 5630Z), everything is going well, there is however a small > problem with Thunderbird, and Firefox in that when I click a link in a > file or from the desktop then Thunderbird fires up instead of Firefox ?? > > I decided to do a test by creating a "link to Location" on the desktop, > called it test linked to "http://www.google.co.uk", when I clicked the > link Thunderbird fired up together with a pop-up to set a program as the > default (I thought woopeee! its sorting itself out) I selected > /usr/bin/firefox and ticked the check box to make it permanent, shut > Thunderbird down and tried again, now I get both Thunderbird and Firefox > starting up, so a little progress. > > Now where do I remove the association for Thunderbird to stop it > Starting up in the above situation ? > > I have Googled and and found nothing of help. > > All help much appreciated Welcome to the world of Kubuntu :) You can open System settings > Default applications > Web browser and change to your preferred browser. Another way is to press Alt+F2 and enter: keditfiletype text/html You can then place your preferred choice at the top of the list. -- // Isak From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun Feb 13 19:22:29 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:22:29 -0500 Subject: File Association In-Reply-To: <4D5810F0.9010408@theclan.co.uk> References: <4D5810F0.9010408@theclan.co.uk> Message-ID: <4D582F75.7090700@optonline.net> On 02/13/2011 12:12 PM, John wrote: > Hi, All > > I am new here, and to kubuntu, I have set up kUBUNTU 10.10 on my laptop > (Extensa 5630Z), everything is going well, there is however a small > problem with Thunderbird, and Firefox in that when I click a link in a > file or from the desktop then Thunderbird fires up instead of Firefox ?? > > I decided to do a test by creating a "link to Location" on the desktop, > called it test linked to "http://www.google.co.uk", when I clicked the > link Thunderbird fired up together with a pop-up to set a program as the > default (I thought woopeee! its sorting itself out) I selected > /usr/bin/firefox and ticked the check box to make it permanent, shut > Thunderbird down and tried again, now I get both Thunderbird and Firefox > starting up, so a little progress. > > Now where do I remove the association for Thunderbird to stop it > Starting up in the above situation ? > > I have Googled and and found nothing of help. > > All help much appreciated > I don't know if this applies to you, but I am using a KDE distro (PCLOS) and I found that if the icons (widgets) are too close together, to where the plasma rectangles overlap, when you snap on one, you get the other, or both. Move the icons further apart to fix this. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From samorris at netspace.net.au Sun Feb 13 20:08:27 2011 From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Steve Morris) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:08:27 +1100 Subject: File Association In-Reply-To: <4D5810F0.9010408@theclan.co.uk> References: <4D5810F0.9010408@theclan.co.uk> Message-ID: <4D583A3B.5030109@netspace.net.au> On 14/02/11 04:12, John wrote: > Hi, All > > I am new here, and to kubuntu, I have set up kUBUNTU 10.10 on my laptop > (Extensa 5630Z), everything is going well, there is however a small > problem with Thunderbird, and Firefox in that when I click a link in a > file or from the desktop then Thunderbird fires up instead of Firefox ?? > > I decided to do a test by creating a "link to Location" on the desktop, > called it test linked to "http://www.google.co.uk", when I clicked the > link Thunderbird fired up together with a pop-up to set a program as the > default (I thought woopeee! its sorting itself out) I selected > /usr/bin/firefox and ticked the check box to make it permanent, shut > Thunderbird down and tried again, now I get both Thunderbird and Firefox > starting up, so a little progress. > > Now where do I remove the association for Thunderbird to stop it > Starting up in the above situation ? > > I have Googled and and found nothing of help. > > All help much appreciated > Hi John, Have a look at System Settings -> File Associations and search for all entries associated with Thunderbird and change the ones that shouldn't be. 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I am sure I have just missed something so could anybody point me in the right direction please. paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From linux at appjaws.plus.com Mon Feb 14 14:15:11 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:15:11 +0000 Subject: How to rip cd to mp3 In-Reply-To: <201102141402.40577.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201102141402.40577.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <201102141415.12116.linux@appjaws.plus.com> On Monday 14 Feb 2011 14:02:40 Paul Stear wrote: > Hello all, > This is my first post to the list,having just installed kubuntu (a change > from gentoo). > I can not see how to rip my cds to mp3, in the past OI have used lame, > which I think is installed on this computer but it is not showing up in > k3b or xripper In audi CDs-System Settings onlt the tab for ogg vorbis > encoder is shown. When I used gentoo I had a tab for mp3 as well. > > I am sure I have just missed something so could anybody point me in the > right direction please. > > paul Sorry to reply to my own post but I have just realized that lame (frontend) was not installed only libmp3lame0 mp3 encoding library was installed. so xripper is now working and I have an entry id system settings. regards paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From rajuramvani at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 13:42:06 2011 From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (rajubhai ramvani) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:12:06 +0530 Subject: free space Message-ID: dear sir i am using kubuntu 9.04.when i am updating kubuntu 9.10 then message is displaying "*the upgrade need a total of 1578 m free space on disk "/" please free at least an additional 838 m of disk space on "/" empty your trash and remove temperary disk space on "/' empty your trash and remove temporary packeges of former installations using "sudo apt-get clean"*. sir how can i solve the problem i cant update my os.so give me a solution. in my pc there are two os .window and kubuntu.kubuntu is in E drive and there already 17 gb free space so why pc required free space and how can i do this.i was gone in terminal and typed SUDO APT-GET CLEAN.but pc asking password and i am entering password but pc asking ubuntu password and displaying is sudo apt get clean not found.hellp me. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Tue Feb 15 15:21:05 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:21:05 -0500 Subject: free space In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102151021.06122.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 08:42:06 am rajubhai ramvani wrote: > dear sir > i am using kubuntu 9.04.when i am updating kubuntu 9.10 then message is > displaying "*the upgrade need a total of 1578 m free space on disk "/" > please free at least an additional 838 m of disk space on "/" empty your > trash and remove temperary disk space on "/' empty your trash and remove > temporary packeges of former installations using "sudo apt-get clean"*. sir > how can i solve the problem i cant update my os.so give me a solution. in my > pc there are two os .window and kubuntu.kubuntu is in E drive and there > already 17 gb free space so why pc required free space and how can i do > this.i was gone in terminal and typed SUDO APT-GET CLEAN.but pc asking > password and i am entering password but pc asking ubuntu password and > displaying is sudo apt get clean not found.hellp me. > The command is apt-get, not apt get, there is a dash in between the words. This would make the entire command "sudo apt-get clean" without the quotes of course. When you need to do something that can change your computer you need administrator access and that means that it will ask for your password for security reasons. Other wise anybody could remote connect to your machine and totally control it, just like in windows. Also kubuntu is not on the E: when you are running it. There are no letter drives in linux - ever. There are two commands that will tell you exactly how much disk space you have. The first one is a general thing and the second has a bit more detail. Please copy and paste the following into the terminal (Konsole) and then copy and paste what comes out of them back to this list. We will know what your actual disk situation is then. First command: df -h Second command: sudo du / -h --max-depth=1 Alan From rjlapham at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 07:29:20 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:29:20 -0500 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 Message-ID: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> I had a Win98 install disk and 36GiB of free space at the end of my HD, so I formatted it as FAT32 and it became /dev/sda4. When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How can I point it to /dev/sda4? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= "Given our monstrous, overgrown government structure, any three letters chosen at random would probably designate an agency or part of a department that could be profitably abolished." ---Milton Friedman From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Wed Feb 16 08:00:25 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:00:25 -0500 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5B8419.1010002@optonline.net> On 02/16/2011 02:29 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > I had a Win98 install disk and 36GiB of free space at the end of my HD, so I > formatted it as FAT32 and it became /dev/sda4. > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the right > format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How can I point it > to /dev/sda4? > > -Jerry > ============================================= > Jerry Lapham > Monroe, OH 45050 > rjlapham at gmail.com > I'm not sure, but I suspect Win98 doesn't recognize FAT32. I think it wants to see FAT16. (It's been a long time. . . . --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Wed Feb 16 09:36:29 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:36:29 +0200 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5B9A9D.6070603@whamra.com> On 02/16/2011 09:29 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > I had a Win98 install disk and 36GiB of free space at the end of my HD, so I > formatted it as FAT32 and it became /dev/sda4. > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the right > format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How can I point it > to /dev/sda4? > > -Jerry this has to do with Windows 98 wanting the boot partition (the active partition) to be setup for booting this sda4 partition. is sda4 primary or logical? if logical, i dont think windows can be installed on it without some hacking (installing elsewhere and copying to partition), if it's primary, you can make its partition active (Linux doesnt care about active partitions, since it needs the MBR for grub, and grub uses a kernel-based boot), and try if windows likes it. but this still has a high probablity of the setup overwriting your MBR, in which case you're going to need a bootable linux (CD or other disk) at hand to just re-apply grub on the disk. hope this helps. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do I need to do anything else so that the configuration just happens on reboot? thanks for your time Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From info at alvin.be Wed Feb 16 13:04:18 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:04:18 +0100 Subject: 2 screen settings In-Reply-To: <201102161003.51192.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201102161003.51192.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <201102161404.20561.info@alvin.be> On Wednesday 16 February 2011 11:03:50 Paul Stear wrote: > Hi, > I have 2 screens set up side by side on the kde system settings-monitors. > The problem is that on a reboot the configuration is lost and I have to set > them up again using the kde systems settings. > Do I need to do anything else so that the configuration just happens on > reboot? thanks for your time Yes, you need to find out the correct xrandr command to set up your monitors. Find out[1] what command that is and put it in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup For example, these are the lines I have: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1366x768 xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1360x768 [1] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 From rajuramvani at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 13:32:41 2011 From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (rajubhai ramvani) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:02:41 +0530 Subject: free space Message-ID: sir, *as per instructions i sending you display copy paste * Today's Topics: 1. free space (rajubhai ramvani) dear sir i am using kubuntu 9.04.when i am updating kubuntu 9.10 then message is displaying "*the upgrade need a total of 1578 m free space on disk "/" please free at least an additional 838 m of disk space on "/" empty your trash and remove temperary disk space on "/' empty your trash and remove temporary packeges of former installations using "sudo apt-get clean"*. sir how can i solve the problem i cant update my os.so give me a solution. in my pc there are two os .window and kubuntu.kubuntu is in E drive and there already 17 gb free space so why pc required free space and how can i do this.i was gone in terminal and typed SUDO APT-GET CLEAN.but pc asking password and i am entering password but pc asking ubuntu password and displaying is sudo apt get clean not found.hellp me. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/attachments/20110215/8dd6783f/attachment-0001.html > ------------------------------ n Tuesday, February 15, 2011 08:42:06 am rajubhai ramvani wrote: > dear sir > i am using kubuntu 9.04.when i am updating kubuntu 9.10 then message is > displaying "*the upgrade need a total of 1578 m free space on disk "/" > please free at least an additional 838 m of disk space on "/" empty your > trash and remove temperary disk space on "/' empty your trash and remove > temporary packeges of former installations using "sudo apt-get clean"*. sir > how can i solve the problem i cant update my os.so give me a solution. in my > pc there are two os .window and kubuntu.kubuntu is in E drive and there > already 17 gb free space so why pc required free space and how can i do > this.i was gone in terminal and typed SUDO APT-GET CLEAN.but pc asking > password and i am entering password but pc asking ubuntu password and > displaying is sudo apt get clean not found.hellp me. > The command is apt-get, not apt get, there is a dash in between the words. This would make the entire command "sudo apt-get clean" without the quotes of course. When you need to do something that can change your computer you need administrator access and that means that it will ask for your password for security reasons. Other wise anybody could remote connect to your machine and totally control it, just like in windows. Also kubuntu is not on the E: when you are running it. There are no letter drives in linux - ever. There are two commands that will tell you exactly how much disk space you have. The first one is a general thing and the second has a bit more detail. Please copy and paste the following into the terminal (Konsole) and then copy and paste what comes out of them back to this list. We will know what your actual disk situation is then. First command: df -h Second command: sudo du / -h --max-depth=1 Alan ------------------------------ rajuramvani at ubuntu:~$ df-h bash: df-h: command not found rajuramvani at ubuntu:~$ sudo do/-h--max-depth=1 usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value] {-i | -s | } usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file... rajuramvani at ubuntu:~$ -- rajuramvani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hakan at koseoglu.org Wed Feb 16 13:49:26 2011 From: hakan at koseoglu.org (Hakan Koseoglu) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:49:26 +0000 Subject: free space In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rajubhai, Please do not top-post. On 16 February 2011 13:32, rajubhai ramvani wrote: > > sir, as per instructions i sending you display copy paste You are not typing the commands as instructed. > First command: >        df -h > Second command: >        sudo du / -h --max-depth=1 vs: > rajuramvani at ubuntu:~$ df-h > rajuramvani at ubuntu:~$ sudo do/-h--max-depth=1 As you can see, there are spaces at the suggested commands. -- Hakan (m1fcj) - http://www.hititgunesi.org From rrumberger at web.de Wed Feb 16 13:55:09 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:55:09 +0100 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <4D5B9A9D.6070603@whamra.com> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4D5B9A9D.6070603@whamra.com> Message-ID: <201102161455.10280.rrumberger@web.de> On Mittwoch 16 Februar 2011, 10:36:29, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 02/16/2011 09:29 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > I had a Win98 install disk and 36GiB of free space at the end of my HD, > > so I formatted it as FAT32 and it became /dev/sda4. > > > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the right > > format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How can I > > point it to /dev/sda4? I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed to sda1. You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically so that Win98 sees sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for the install CD, too, and I don't know how to do that. > this has to do with Windows 98 wanting the boot partition (the active > partition) to be setup for booting this sda4 partition. > is sda4 primary or logical? sda1-4 are primary - always! (have a look at how the kernel numbers primary vs. logical partitions) --Reinhold From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Feb 16 17:33:44 2011 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:33:44 +0000 Subject: Natty - undefined math, sound and X symbols Message-ID: <4D5C0A78.5070804@blueyonder.co.uk> There are no symbols in libraries nm /lib/libm-2.12.2.so|grep log10 nm: /lib/libm-2.12.2.so: no symbols May be there is a way around these I haven't figured. gcc -m64 -oxlinrad64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXext \ -lX11 -lpthread -lm -lasound -lrt -Wl,-Map,linrad.xmap,-warn-common \ xmain.om xvar.om ui.om lsetad.om fft1.om buf.om lvar.om radar.om \ mouse.om wide_graph.om getiq.om fft0.om adtest.om hires_graph.om \ fftasm.om baseb_graph.om mix2.om afc_graph.om hwaredriver.om \ sellim.om palette.om gifsave.om timing.om help.om calibrate.om \ calsub.om calsub2.om llsqvar.om llsq.om caliq.om timf2.om tx.om \ powtim.om selvar.om fft2var.om sigvar.om screenvar.om uivar.om \ fft1var.om fft3var.om calvar.om blnkvar.om fft1_re.om lxsys.om \ fft1_complex.om powtvar.om simdasm.om blank1.om fft2.om sdrip.om \ pol_graph.om split.om modesub.om spur.om cohsub.om coherent.om \ eme.om spursub.om freq_control.om fft2mmxb.om fft2mmxa.om lsdr.om \ rxin.om wcw.om mix1.om afcsub.om morse.om menu.om fonts.om rxout.om \ tune.om txtest.om network.om fft2mmxc.om hware.om coh_osc.om fm.om \ cwspeed.om sdrvar.om sdr14.om keyboard_var.om thrvar.om pa.om \ xsys.om screen.om cwdetect.om tx_graph.om txssb.om pavar.om \ txvar.om screensub.om fft3.om wxsys.om meter_graph.om wse.om si570.om \ perseus.om usb2lpt.om excalibur.om \ -lusb xmain.om: In function `thread_process_event': /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:624: undefined reference to `XNextEvent' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:633: undefined reference to `sem_post' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:648: undefined reference to `XPutImage' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:862: undefined reference to `XKeycodeToKeysym' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:744: undefined reference to `XKeycodeToKeysym' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:774: undefined reference to `XLookupString' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:653: undefined reference to `XShmPutImage' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:657: undefined reference to `XInstallColormap' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:764: undefined reference to `sem_post' xmain.om: In function `main': /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:73: undefined reference to `XInitThreads' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:102: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:114: undefined reference to `XShmQueryVersion' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:605: undefined reference to `XCloseDisplay' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:142: undefined reference to `XCreateSimpleWindow' /opt/linrad-03.20/ui.c:263: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_hwsync' /opt/linrad-03.20/ui.c:271: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_avail_update' lsetad.om: In function `alsa_get_dev_names': /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:171: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_card_info_malloc' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:172: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_malloc' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:175: undefined reference to `snd_card_next' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:190: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_open' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:197: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_card_info' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:207: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_pcm_next_device' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:221: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_set_device' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:222: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_set_subdevice' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:223: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_set_stream' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:224: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_pcm_info' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:107: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:117: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:95: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:132: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:160: undefined reference to `log10' fft1.om: In function `make_filcorrstart': /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:899: undefined reference to `pow' fft1.om: In function `clear_fft1_filtercorr': /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:949: undefined reference to `sin' fft1.om: In function `resize_filtercorr_td_to_fd': /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:1116: undefined reference to `sincos' buf.om: In function `prepare_mixer': /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:79: undefined reference to `sincos' buf.om: In function `make_interleave_ratio': /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:106: undefined reference to `pow' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:106: undefined reference to `asin' buf.om: In function `init_blanker': /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1489: undefined reference to `sincos' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1617: undefined reference to `sinf' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1628: undefined reference to `sincos' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1681: undefined reference to `sincosf' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1681: undefined reference to `sincosf' Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Wed Feb 16 20:05:25 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:05:25 -0500 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102161455.10280.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4D5B9A9D.6070603@whamra.com> <201102161455.10280.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <4D5C2E05.8010301@optonline.net> On 02/16/2011 08:55 AM, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Mittwoch 16 Februar 2011, 10:36:29, Waleed Hamra wrote: >> On 02/16/2011 09:29 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: >>> I had a Win98 install disk and 36GiB of free space at the end of my HD, >>> so I formatted it as FAT32 and it became /dev/sda4. >>> >>> When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the right >>> format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How can I >>> point it to /dev/sda4? > I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed to sda1. > You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically so that Win98 sees > sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for the install CD, too, and I > don't know how to do that. > >> this has to do with Windows 98 wanting the boot partition (the active >> partition) to be setup for booting this sda4 partition. >> is sda4 primary or logical? > sda1-4 are primary - always! (have a look at how the kernel numbers primary > vs. logical partitions) > > --Reinhold > I seem to remember that fdisk allows you to mark one partition as "bootable"-- have you marked sda4 so? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From rrumberger at web.de Wed Feb 16 20:38:48 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:38:48 +0100 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <4D5C2E05.8010301@optonline.net> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102161455.10280.rrumberger@web.de> <4D5C2E05.8010301@optonline.net> Message-ID: <201102162138.49059.rrumberger@web.de> On Mittwoch 16 Februar 2011, 21:05:25, Doug wrote: > On 02/16/2011 08:55 AM, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > On Mittwoch 16 Februar 2011, 10:36:29, Waleed Hamra wrote: > >> On 02/16/2011 09:29 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > >>> I had a Win98 install disk and 36GiB of free space at the end of my HD, > >>> so I formatted it as FAT32 and it became /dev/sda4. > >>> > >>> When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the > >>> right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How > >>> can I point it to /dev/sda4? > > > > I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed to > > sda1. You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically so that > > Win98 sees sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for the install > > CD, too, and I don't know how to do that. > > > >> this has to do with Windows 98 wanting the boot partition (the active > >> partition) to be setup for booting this sda4 partition. > >> is sda4 primary or logical? > > > > sda1-4 are primary - always! (have a look at how the kernel numbers > > primary vs. logical partitions) > > I seem to remember that fdisk allows you to mark one partition as > "bootable"-- > have you marked sda4 so? --doug Apart from the fact that I'm not marking anything, the installer will do that for you, no need to do that before you get Win98 installed... --Reinhold From mdhirsch at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 20:53:17 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:53:17 -0700 Subject: free space In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > Hi Rajubhai, > > Please do not top-post. > > On 16 February 2011 13:32, rajubhai ramvani wrote: >> >> sir, as per instructions i sending you display copy paste > > You are not typing the commands as instructed. >> First command: >>        df -h >> Second command: >>        sudo du / -h --max-depth=1 > > vs: >> rajuramvani at ubuntu:~$ df-h > >> rajuramvani at ubuntu:~$ sudo do/-h--max-depth=1 > > As you can see, there are spaces at the suggested commands. And it is "sudo du" not "sudo do". I suggest that you use copy and paste to get the commands exactly right. Try not to just type them in again. Michael From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 22:57:31 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:57:31 -0700 Subject: maverick: HP Officejet 4215 no longer prints text In-Reply-To: <4D4D8F22.2020803@gmail.com> References: <4D4D8F22.2020803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5C565B.8020802@gmail.com> D. R. Evans said the following at 02/05/2011 10:55 AM : > I just bit the bullet and moved my wife's computer up from hardy all the > way up to maverick (since this is the first version of KDE4 that I've found > passably usable). > > But her HP Officejet 4215 no longer works properly: graphics print fine, > but when printing text the print head moves, but no text is actually > printed. Does anyone know how I can get her printer working again? > I filed a report at https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/144235 and was told to update hplip... but having asked twice how to do so, I have not received any responses. Can anyone here tell me how to get the more recent hplip package on to my wife's maverick system? I'd really hate to have to go back to Windows on that machine, but I'm sure you can appreciate that not being able to print is not a viable position to be in. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Wed Feb 16 23:29:57 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:29:57 +0200 Subject: maverick: HP Officejet 4215 no longer prints text In-Reply-To: <4D5C565B.8020802@gmail.com> References: <4D4D8F22.2020803@gmail.com> <4D5C565B.8020802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D5C5DF5.2080609@whamra.com> On 02/17/2011 12:57 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: > D. R. Evans said the following at 02/05/2011 10:55 AM : >> I just bit the bullet and moved my wife's computer up from hardy all the >> way up to maverick (since this is the first version of KDE4 that I've found >> passably usable). >> >> But her HP Officejet 4215 no longer works properly: graphics print fine, >> but when printing text the print head moves, but no text is actually >> printed. Does anyone know how I can get her printer working again? >> > > I filed a report at https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/144235 > and was told to update hplip... but having asked twice how to do so, I have > not received any responses. Can anyone here tell me how to get the more > recent hplip package on to my wife's maverick system? > > I'd really hate to have to go back to Windows on that machine, but I'm sure > you can appreciate that not being able to print is not a viable position to > be in. > > Doc > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html click "download hplip", and follow the instructions :) -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Thu Feb 17 02:58:20 2011 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:58:20 -0800 Subject: maverick: HP Officejet 4215 no longer prints text In-Reply-To: <4D5C565B.8020802@gmail.com> References: <4D4D8F22.2020803@gmail.com> <4D5C565B.8020802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102161858.21374.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:57:31 pm D. R. Evans wrote: > D. R. Evans said the following at 02/05/2011 10:55 AM : > > I just bit the bullet and moved my wife's computer up from hardy all the > > way up to maverick (since this is the first version of KDE4 that I've > > found passably usable). I'm running 4.4.5 which handles for the most part as well as 3.x. I DID stay with Hardy and I also waited to go to Lucid til I started hearing decent things about it. > > But her HP Officejet 4215 no longer works properly: graphics print fine, > > but when printing text the print head moves, but no text is actually > > printed. Does anyone know how I can get her printer working again? > > I filed a report at https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/144235 > and was told to update hplip... but having asked twice how to do so, I have > not received any responses. Can anyone here tell me how to get the more > recent hplip package on to my wife's maverick system? Lack of response usually means people do not know. For instance, I'm not sure about a Maverick system since I only use the LTS version but the hplip has worked since ever for my systems without the least of any problems. I use a HP J4680 which seems to work flawlessly and we have a Canon MP560, which we use mostly for fax, camera SD cards, and copying because it is pathetic with our Kubuntu network. Turboprint which we bought, provided no user support nor did it ever properly work. We do not plan on ever buying a Canon again since it does not work with Linux nor do we plan to ever either recommend or buy Turboprint again. > I'd really hate to have to go back to Windows on that machine, but I'm sure > you can appreciate that not being able to print is not a viable position to > be in. To me, then the more responsible route to take would be to stay with the LTS versions like I tell the owners of the 35 machines I service to do, and leave the testing of more unstable versions to those who have the time to troubleshoot. The threat to retreat to something as full of bugs as windoze really can not be taken seriously. I've been there and know better as have most of the people on this list. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org _Registered Kubuntu User: #27403 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From linux at appjaws.plus.com Thu Feb 17 10:14:20 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:14:20 +0000 Subject: 2 screen settings In-Reply-To: <201102161404.20561.info@alvin.be> References: <201102161003.51192.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102161404.20561.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <201102171014.21114.linux@appjaws.plus.com> On Wednesday 16 Feb 2011 13:04:18 Alvin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 February 2011 11:03:50 Paul Stear wrote: > > Hi, > > I have 2 screens set up side by side on the kde system settings-monitors. > > The problem is that on a reboot the configuration is lost and I have to > > set them up again using the kde systems settings. > > Do I need to do anything else so that the configuration just happens on > > reboot? thanks for your time > > Yes, you need to find out the correct xrandr command to set up your > monitors. Find out[1] what command that is and put it in > /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup > > For example, these are the lines I have: > xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1366x768 > xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1360x768 > > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 This is the entry I made but it didn't work, I never got the sign in screen. xrandr --output VGA-1 --mode 1280x1024+0+0 xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1280x1024+1280+0 Any other ideas? paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 10:50:33 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (Isak =?iso-8859-1?q?Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:50:33 +0100 Subject: 2 screen settings In-Reply-To: <201102171014.21114.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201102161003.51192.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102161404.20561.info@alvin.be> <201102171014.21114.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <201102171150.34339.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> On Thursday 17 February 2011 11.14.20 Paul Stear wrote: > On Wednesday 16 Feb 2011 13:04:18 Alvin wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 February 2011 11:03:50 Paul Stear wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I have 2 screens set up side by side on the kde system > > > settings-monitors. The problem is that on a reboot the configuration > > > is lost and I have to set them up again using the kde systems > > > settings. > > > Do I need to do anything else so that the configuration just happens on > > > reboot? thanks for your time > > > > Yes, you need to find out the correct xrandr command to set up your > > monitors. Find out[1] what command that is and put it in > > /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup > > > > For example, these are the lines I have: > > xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1366x768 > > xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1360x768 > > > > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 > > This is the entry I made but it didn't work, I never got the sign in > screen. xrandr --output VGA-1 --mode 1280x1024+0+0 > xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1280x1024+1280+0 > Any other ideas? > paul So VGA-1 is your primary screen? What happens if you run the second command in the termnal? Also you could try running xrandr --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x1024 --right-of VGA-1 (if DVI-1 is the port and the monitor is placed on the right of VGA-1) -- // Isak From linux at appjaws.plus.com Thu Feb 17 11:14:25 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:14:25 +0000 Subject: 2 screen settings In-Reply-To: <201102171150.34339.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> References: <201102161003.51192.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102171014.21114.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102171150.34339.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102171114.25321.linux@appjaws.plus.com> On Thursday 17 Feb 2011 10:50:33 Isak Enström wrote: > xrandr --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x1024 --right-of > VGA-1 Thanks Isak, I think this will work but I haven't time to test it now, I'll try over the weekend. Thank again Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From fsunoles at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 17:22:44 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:22:44 -0700 Subject: VNC with reduced color depth Message-ID: Kubuntu 10.04 I want to establish a connection with VNC to :0 using a reduced color depth. My connections will be via modems, so I'm trying to speed things up as much as possible. The screen resolution of the remote machines is set to 800x600 and I'd like my VNC connection to be at a color depth of 8 or 16. I don't want to set the color depth on the remote machines that low as I sometimes sit in front of them. Closest I've found so far is tightvnc, but that doesn't allow connections to :0. From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu Feb 17 22:22:41 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:22:41 -0700 Subject: maverick: HP Officejet 4215 no longer prints text In-Reply-To: <4D5C5DF5.2080609@whamra.com> References: <4D4D8F22.2020803@gmail.com> <4D5C565B.8020802@gmail.com> <4D5C5DF5.2080609@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4D5D9FB1.9000909@gmail.com> Waleed Hamra said the following at 02/16/2011 04:29 PM : >> > > http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html > > click "download hplip", and follow the instructions :) Years of getting burned installing packages that don't come from the distro-maker have made me cynic... but in this case I was wrong to be so cautious. While the official 10.10 package is broken (at least for my wife's printer), the instructions on the hplipopensource.com were clear, correct, and resulted in a working printer. Thank you. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sinclair) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:58:14 +0200 Subject: printers being shared on network despity my setting it not to Message-ID: <4D5E2696.2060107@gmail.com> I have set my computer in System Settings - Printer Configuration to NOT share info on my installed printers. However, when I install a networked printer for a windows or linux computer in the same network they all show up! I have checked via CUPS server at localhost:631, the same setting is indicated there. Not sharing, that is. Anyone have an idea of a config file I can check via CLI? Kind regards, Sinclair From gkourtev at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 16:16:12 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:16:12 +0200 Subject: Effects vs. Screen performance Message-ID: <201102181816.14182.gkourtev@gmail.com> Hello friends, Since quite awhile I have a continuous problems with the desktop effects (which I like a lot) and the screen performance. Although my PC is quite OK in terms of graphical card. processor speed and so on, but as soon as I enable the desktop effects the screen refresh rate becomes so slow that I need often to minimise the window to get what is inside... This issue appeared after I had 10.04 installed and onwards (currently I am with 10.10). It was not the case with previous versions of Kubuntu. Some people suggest to simply disable the effects, but I like the KDE effects and would like to keep them running. I'll appreciate if some can share ideas on how to solve this once and forever. Cheers, gk From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Feb 18 16:33:32 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:33:32 -0500 Subject: Effects vs. Screen performance In-Reply-To: <201102181816.14182.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201102181816.14182.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102181133.32997.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday, February 18, 2011, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > This issue appeared after I had 10.04 installed and onwards (currently I > am with 10.10). It was not the case with previous versions of Kubuntu. > Some people suggest to simply disable the effects, but I like the KDE > effects and would like to keep them running. > > I'll appreciate if some can share ideas on how to solve this once and > forever. Cheers, > gk Have you run 'top' to see if something is tying up your CPU? Or 'free' to see if you are running low on free space? From fsunoles at gmail.com Fri Feb 18 22:38:39 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:38:39 -0700 Subject: VNC with reduced color depth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Homer wrote: > Kubuntu 10.04 > > I want to establish a connection with VNC to :0 using a reduced color > depth.  My connections will be via modems, so I'm trying to speed > things up as much as possible.  The screen resolution of the remote > machines is set to 800x600 and I'd like my VNC connection to be at a > color depth of 8 or 16.  I don't want to set the color depth on the > remote machines that low as I sometimes sit in front of them.  Closest > I've found so far is tightvnc, but that doesn't allow connections to > :0. Took me a couple of days to figure out a solution. vncviewer has an option called -depth that by the description is exactly what I am after. I was never able to get it to work. There is another option, -bgr233, that sets the color depth to 8-bit. That works. Time to move on... From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Fri Feb 18 22:59:26 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:59:26 +0200 Subject: Effects vs. Screen performance In-Reply-To: <201102181133.32997.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201102181816.14182.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201102181133.32997.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <4D5EF9CE.60902@whamra.com> On 02/18/2011 06:33 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday, February 18, 2011, Georgi Kourtev wrote: >> This issue appeared after I had 10.04 installed and onwards (currently I >> am with 10.10). It was not the case with previous versions of Kubuntu. >> Some people suggest to simply disable the effects, but I like the KDE >> effects and would like to keep them running. >> >> I'll appreciate if some can share ideas on how to solve this once and >> forever. Cheers, >> gk > > Have you run 'top' to see if something is tying up your CPU? > > Or 'free' to see if you are running low on free space? > yeah, both checks, and run glxgears while effects are off, and system is not overly busy, record the frame rate, then enable effects and compare... sometimes the computer can be slow even with no effects, but it wouldn't be obvious. if that's the case, then there needs to be more digging, which most probably might end up as a process choking the processor as Bruce suggested. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Feb 19 16:47:28 2011 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:47:28 +0000 Subject: Natty - undefined math, sound and X symbols (Sid Boyce) Message-ID: <4D5FF420.5010503@blueyonder.co.uk> I wonder if it's deliberate with Natty being Alpha. Original post ================ There are no symbols in libraries nm /lib/libm-2.12.2.so|grep log10 nm: /lib/libm-2.12.2.so: no symbols May be there is a way around these I haven't figured. gcc -m64 -oxlinrad64 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXext \ -lX11 -lpthread -lm -lasound -lrt -Wl,-Map,linrad.xmap,-warn-common \ xmain.om xvar.om ui.om lsetad.om fft1.om buf.om lvar.om radar.om \ mouse.om wide_graph.om getiq.om fft0.om adtest.om hires_graph.om \ fftasm.om baseb_graph.om mix2.om afc_graph.om hwaredriver.om \ sellim.om palette.om gifsave.om timing.om help.om calibrate.om \ calsub.om calsub2.om llsqvar.om llsq.om caliq.om timf2.om tx.om \ powtim.om selvar.om fft2var.om sigvar.om screenvar.om uivar.om \ fft1var.om fft3var.om calvar.om blnkvar.om fft1_re.om lxsys.om \ fft1_complex.om powtvar.om simdasm.om blank1.om fft2.om sdrip.om \ pol_graph.om split.om modesub.om spur.om cohsub.om coherent.om \ eme.om spursub.om freq_control.om fft2mmxb.om fft2mmxa.om lsdr.om \ rxin.om wcw.om mix1.om afcsub.om morse.om menu.om fonts.om rxout.om \ tune.om txtest.om network.om fft2mmxc.om hware.om coh_osc.om fm.om \ cwspeed.om sdrvar.om sdr14.om keyboard_var.om thrvar.om pa.om \ xsys.om screen.om cwdetect.om tx_graph.om txssb.om pavar.om \ txvar.om screensub.om fft3.om wxsys.om meter_graph.om wse.om si570.om \ perseus.om usb2lpt.om excalibur.om \ -lusb xmain.om: In function `thread_process_event': /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:624: undefined reference to `XNextEvent' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:633: undefined reference to `sem_post' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:648: undefined reference to `XPutImage' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:862: undefined reference to `XKeycodeToKeysym' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:744: undefined reference to `XKeycodeToKeysym' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:774: undefined reference to `XLookupString' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:653: undefined reference to `XShmPutImage' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:657: undefined reference to `XInstallColormap' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:764: undefined reference to `sem_post' xmain.om: In function `main': /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:73: undefined reference to `XInitThreads' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:102: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:114: undefined reference to `XShmQueryVersion' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:605: undefined reference to `XCloseDisplay' /opt/linrad-03.20/xmain.c:142: undefined reference to `XCreateSimpleWindow' /opt/linrad-03.20/ui.c:263: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_hwsync' /opt/linrad-03.20/ui.c:271: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_avail_update' lsetad.om: In function `alsa_get_dev_names': /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:171: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_card_info_malloc' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:172: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_malloc' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:175: undefined reference to `snd_card_next' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:190: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_open' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:197: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_card_info' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:207: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_pcm_next_device' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:221: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_set_device' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:222: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_set_subdevice' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:223: undefined reference to `snd_pcm_info_set_stream' /opt/linrad-03.20/lsetad.c:224: undefined reference to `snd_ctl_pcm_info' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:107: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:117: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:95: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:132: undefined reference to `log10' /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:160: undefined reference to `log10' fft1.om: In function `make_filcorrstart': /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:899: undefined reference to `pow' fft1.om: In function `clear_fft1_filtercorr': /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:949: undefined reference to `sin' fft1.om: In function `resize_filtercorr_td_to_fd': /opt/linrad-03.20/fft1.c:1116: undefined reference to `sincos' buf.om: In function `prepare_mixer': /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:79: undefined reference to `sincos' buf.om: In function `make_interleave_ratio': /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:106: undefined reference to `pow' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:106: undefined reference to `asin' buf.om: In function `init_blanker': /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1489: undefined reference to `sincos' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1617: undefined reference to `sinf' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1628: undefined reference to `sincos' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1681: undefined reference to `sincosf' /opt/linrad-03.20/buf.c:1681: undefined reference to `sincosf' Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From linux at appjaws.plus.com Sun Feb 20 13:38:15 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:38:15 +0000 Subject: 2 screen settings In-Reply-To: <201102171150.34339.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> References: <201102161003.51192.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102171014.21114.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102171150.34339.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102201338.15770.linux@appjaws.plus.com> On Thursday 17 Feb 2011 10:50:33 Isak Enström wrote: > On Thursday 17 February 2011 11.14.20 Paul Stear wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 Feb 2011 13:04:18 Alvin wrote: > > > On Wednesday 16 February 2011 11:03:50 Paul Stear wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have 2 screens set up side by side on the kde system > > > > settings-monitors. The problem is that on a reboot the configuration > > > > is lost and I have to set them up again using the kde systems > > > > settings. > > > > Do I need to do anything else so that the configuration just happens > > > > on reboot? thanks for your time > > > > > > Yes, you need to find out the correct xrandr command to set up your > > > monitors. Find out[1] what command that is and put it in > > > /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup > > > > > > For example, these are the lines I have: > > > xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1366x768 > > > xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1360x768 > > > > > > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 > > > > This is the entry I made but it didn't work, I never got the sign in > > screen. xrandr --output VGA-1 --mode 1280x1024+0+0 > > xrandr --output DVI-I-1 --mode 1280x1024+1280+0 > > Any other ideas? > > paul > > So VGA-1 is your primary screen? > What happens if you run the second command in the termnal? > Also you could try running xrandr --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x1024 > --right-of VGA-1 (if DVI-1 is the port and the monitor is placed on the > right of VGA-1) Thanks this works well Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 19:52:53 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:52:53 +0100 Subject: 2 screen settings In-Reply-To: <201102201338.15770.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201102161003.51192.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102171014.21114.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201102171150.34339.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> <201102201338.15770.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <4D617115.7080806@gmail.com> On 2011-02-20 14:38, Paul Stear wrote: > On Thursday 17 Feb 2011 10:50:33 Isak Enström wrote: >> So VGA-1 is your primary screen? >> What happens if you run the second command in the termnal? >> Also you could try running xrandr --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x1024 >> --right-of VGA-1 (if DVI-1 is the port and the monitor is placed on the >> right of VGA-1) > > > Thanks this works well > Paul OK, good to hear :) -- // Isak From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sun Feb 20 22:24:49 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:24:49 +0000 Subject: External drives Message-ID: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very confusing. TIA Neil From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun Feb 20 22:39:44 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:39:44 -0500 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > confusing. > > TIA > > Neil Yes, any of them should work just wine. Though some may come with windows- based backup helper software installed, they amount to really, really big thumb drives as far as Kubuntu is concerned :) They probably are all formatted in FAT32 so it is just a matter of plugging it in and having it show in the device notifier clay From rjlapham at gmail.com Sun Feb 20 23:29:44 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:29:44 -0500 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201102201829.44931.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 pm Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > helpful suggestions please? Any USB drive should work. One caution: If you're wanting it for protection against power surges, lightning strikes, etc., don't leave it plugged in to power and your computer when you're not using it. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Studying Keynesian economics is like studying flat-earth geography. From rrumberger at web.de Sun Feb 20 23:42:35 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:42:35 +0100 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201102210042.36774.rrumberger@web.de> On Sonntag 20 Februar 2011, 23:39:44, Clay Weber wrote: > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: > > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > > confusing. > > Yes, any of them should work just wine. Though some may come with windows- > based backup helper software installed, they amount to really, really big > thumb drives as far as Kubuntu is concerned :) They probably are all > formatted in FAT32 so it is just a matter of plugging it in and having it > show in the device notifier Actually, for backups fat32 is pretty much the worst choice you could make... If you're going to use them for backing up your Linux distros, format them to ext3/4. It's a lot less hassle if the fs actually supports permissions and has no stupid 4GB file size limits. @Neil: As far as choice of drive goes: try getting something with different kinds of ports (USB, eSata, FireWire). That way you can use it for longish-term storage and chances are good that you will still be able to recover your data without having to resort to a string of incrementally more modern hardware because none of the ports are in use anymore. Obviously, warranty is a concern if you are going to be serious about backing up. That means the really cheap stuff is out of the question. If you're going to do one of those half-assed unreliable approaches, you can just get the drive with the best cost-per-GB ratio, but then doing without a backup is probably cheaper and about as useful. Before you go out buying drives, however, you should first think of a backup strategy to use, and buy a drive that suits your needs. If you keep backups for e.g. only a year, the choice of ports is less important. Also, you should consider some multi-device deal with some sort of RAID/LVM if you'll back up really important data and your budget allows for it. There are enough resources to be found by googling for backup strategies, so I'll leave you to that. As Clay pointed out, the actual drive isn't as much of a concern as Linux isn't so terribly choosy about them. Apart from access speed, the difference between an external and an internal drive pretty much boils down to one type being readily removable and the other not. --Reinhold From rjlapham at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 00:27:24 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 19:27:24 -0500 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102161455.10280.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4D5B9A9D.6070603@whamra.com> <201102161455.10280.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102201927.24554.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 08:55:09 am Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the > > > right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How > > > can I point it to /dev/sda4? > > I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed to > sda1. You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically so that > Win98 sees sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for the install > CD, too, and I don't know how to do that. Does the Win98 install CD use the existing partition table in the master boot record? Would it use the first entry there as Drive C? If so, swappng the bytes from the fourth entry and those from the first entry ought to do it, correct? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= "This wine is bad," said Tom acidly. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Feb 21 01:12:59 2011 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:12:59 +1100 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4D61BC1B.6020200@iinet.net.au> On 21/02/2011 09:24, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > confusing. > > TIA > > Neil Using an external for backups is a very good idea. But when you are looking for a external make sure that you get one with its own power supply; there are some USB externals which use the USB itself for power from the computer which then overloads the computer's power rail and in fact may not provide enough power to the drive to work properly. Also, (?)all, almost all, externals come formatted in FAT32. Which is fine except that if you want to backup something from Linux which has symlink(s) then FAT32 will not accept that symlink. Therefore you will need to reformat the drive with with either ext3 or ext4. BC -- Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries. From rrumberger at web.de Mon Feb 21 01:28:44 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:28:44 +0100 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102201927.24554.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102161455.10280.rrumberger@web.de> <201102201927.24554.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102210228.44585.rrumberger@web.de> On Montag 21 Februar 2011, 01:27:24, Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 08:55:09 am Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the > > > > right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How > > > > can I point it to /dev/sda4? > > > > I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed to > > sda1. You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically so that > > Win98 sees sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for the install > > CD, too, and I don't know how to do that. > > Does the Win98 install CD use the existing partition table in the master > boot record? Would it use the first entry there as Drive C? Yes. > If so, > swappng the bytes from the fourth entry and those from the first entry > ought to do it, correct? That seems pretty much like what I wrote. Or at least what I was trying to write... ;-) --Reinhold From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Feb 21 02:28:35 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:28:35 -0500 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201102202128.35455.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Sunday, February 20, 2011, Clay Weber wrote: > Yes, any of them should work just wine. Though some may come with windows- > based backup helper software installed, they amount to really, really big > thumb drives as far as Kubuntu is concerned :) They probably are all > formatted in FAT32 so it is just a matter of plugging it in and having > it show in the device notifier Not so much on the thumb drives..... I have a $20 'gizmo' made by Rosewill which is an HDD docking station. You slip any old SATA drive into to (I had a 320GB spare) and then plug it into a USB port and you have an external drive. Format it any way you want..... Works fine for backup. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182221&Tpk=rx-du101 From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 06:13:52 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:13:52 +0200 Subject: Virtual desktops Message-ID: <201102210813.53252.gkourtev@gmail.com> How can I rearrange the order of the virtual desktops? I have four desktop and after a plasma crash at logout I got one of them changed (i.e. all its widgets removed and new desktop image), and the others were rearranged -- N 1 became 2, 3 became 1 etc... Thanks. gk From msh at farsight-data.com Mon Feb 21 06:15:50 2011 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 01:15:50 -0500 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <4D61BC1B.6020200@iinet.net.au> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <4D61BC1B.6020200@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <201102210115.50912.msh@farsight-data.com> On Sunday 20 February 2011 08:12:59 pm Basil Chupin wrote: > On 21/02/2011 09:24, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > > confusing. > > > > TIA > > > > Neil > > Using an external for backups is a very good idea. > > But when you are looking for a external make sure that you get one with > its own power supply; there are some USB externals which use the USB > itself for power from the computer which then overloads the computer's > power rail and in fact may not provide enough power to the drive to work > properly. > > Also, (?)all, almost all, externals come formatted in FAT32. Which is > fine except that if you want to backup something from Linux which has > symlink(s) then FAT32 will not accept that symlink. Therefore you will > need to reformat the drive with with either ext3 or ext4. > > BC > > -- > Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in > rich countries to rich people in poor countries. And one other thing you need to do with the backup. Store it off site. Othewise, if something happens to your office/home where the computer is you're likely to lose the backup as well. I have my clients get two or more external USB hard drives and rotate them once a week for weekly backups. And, they usually have one for monthly backups. Mark -- ------------------------ Mark S. Halegua 718-360-1712 917-686-8794 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkourtev at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 06:23:42 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:23:42 +0200 Subject: Effects vs. Screen performance In-Reply-To: <201102181133.32997.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201102181816.14182.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201102181133.32997.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201102210823.43719.gkourtev@gmail.com> On Friday, February 18, 2011 18:33:32 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday, February 18, 2011, Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > This issue appeared after I had 10.04 installed and onwards (currently I > > am with 10.10). It was not the case with previous versions of Kubuntu. > > Some people suggest to simply disable the effects, but I like the KDE > > effects and would like to keep them running. > > > > I'll appreciate if some can share ideas on how to solve this once and > > forever. Cheers, > > gk > > Have you run 'top' to see if something is tying up your CPU? > > Or 'free' to see if you are running low on free space? Both does not show anything worrying: see below the output. FROM free -------------- total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 2051240 1904628 146612 0 40064 1261936 -/+ buffers/cache: 602628 1448612 Swap: 6142972 0 6142972 --------- FROM top ----- gkourtev at gkourtev-laptop:~$ top top - 08:21:31 up 26 min, 2 users, load average: 0.77, 0.87, 0.91 Tasks: 167 total, 2 running, 165 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 2.9%us, 1.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 95.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2051240k total, 1894048k used, 157192k free, 40064k buffers Swap: 6142972k total, 0k used, 6142972k free, 1230000k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 1244 root 20 0 114m 44m 19m S 4 2.2 3:19.88 Xorg 2306 gkourtev 20 0 124m 21m 15m S 2 1.1 0:03.39 konsole 1617 gkourtev 20 0 214m 41m 23m S 1 2.0 1:47.81 kwin 1631 gkourtev 20 0 346m 69m 31m S 1 3.5 0:31.18 plasma-desktop 7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:02.97 ksoftirqd/1 1129 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:01.12 kslowd000 1521 root 20 0 20924 4940 2844 S 0 0.2 0:01.15 upowerd 1593 gkourtev 20 0 105m 18m 14m S 0 0.9 0:00.48 kwalletd 2452 gkourtev 20 0 2620 1144 840 R 0 0.1 0:00.16 top 1 root 20 0 2868 1684 1204 S 0 0.1 0:00.71 init 2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.18 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 5 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0 6 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 migration/1 8 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/1 9 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 0 0.0 0:00.05 events/0 10 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.53 events/1 11 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuset 12 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper 13 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 netns 14 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 async/mgr 15 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pm 17 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 sync_supers 18 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 bdi-default 19 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd/0 20 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd/1 21 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.20 kblockd/0 22 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/1 23 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 24 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpi_notify 25 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpi_hotplug 26 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata_aux 27 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.06 ata_sff/0 28 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.05 ata_sff/1 29 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 khubd From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Mon Feb 21 08:16:10 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:16:10 +0000 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:39:44 -0500 Clay Weber wrote: > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: > > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > > confusing. > > > > TIA > > > > Neil > > Yes, any of them should work just fine. Though some may come with windows- > based backup helper software installed, they amount to really, really big > thumb drives as far as Kubuntu is concerned :) They probably are all formatted > in FAT32 so it is just a matter of plugging it in and having it show in the > device notifier > > clay > Thanks for that. I could reformat the drive I suppose. Which would be better, NTFS or Ext4? Neil From msh at farsight-data.com Mon Feb 21 10:40:35 2011 From: msh at farsight-data.com (FarSight Data Systems) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:40:35 -0500 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201102210540.35683.msh@farsight-data.com> On Monday 21 February 2011 03:16:10 am Neil Winchurst wrote: > On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:39:44 -0500 > > Clay Weber wrote: > > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > > > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > > > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > > > confusing. > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Neil > > > > Yes, any of them should work just fine. Though some may come with > > windows- based backup helper software installed, they amount to really, > > really big thumb drives as far as Kubuntu is concerned :) They probably > > are all formatted in FAT32 so it is just a matter of plugging it in and > > having it show in the device notifier > > > > clay > > Thanks for that. I could reformat the drive I suppose. Which would be > better, NTFS or Ext4? > If you're backing up a Linux drive, use ext3 or ext4. NTFS won't give you the proper permissions. Mark -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Mon Feb 21 11:13:14 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:13:14 +0000 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <201102210540.35683.msh@farsight-data.com> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102210540.35683.msh@farsight-data.com> Message-ID: <20110221111314.fe35f8de.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:40:35 -0500 FarSight Data Systems wrote: > > > > Thanks for that. I could reformat the drive I suppose. Which would be > > better, NTFS or Ext4? > > > If you're backing up a Linux drive, use ext3 or ext4. NTFS won't give you the > proper permissions. > > Mark > -- Thanks, I had forgotten that. Yes it will be a Linux system to back up. I haven't used Windows for many years. Neil From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 11:24:53 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:24:53 +0200 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <20110221111314.fe35f8de.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102210540.35683.msh@farsight-data.com> <20110221111314.fe35f8de.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4D624B85.5050907@gmail.com> On 21/02/2011 13:13, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:40:35 -0500 > FarSight Data Systems wrote: > >>> >>> Thanks for that. I could reformat the drive I suppose. Which would be >>> better, NTFS or Ext4? >>> >> If you're backing up a Linux drive, use ext3 or ext4. NTFS won't give you the >> proper permissions. >> >> Mark >> -- > Thanks, I had forgotten that. Yes it will be a Linux system to back up. > I haven't used Windows for many years. > format it in ext3, then install Luckybackup - to install a new computer with a Luckybackup external backup and a Remastersys system backup on a bootable usb flash takes no time. Well, how long it actually takes depends on your /home size but it is supereasy otherwise. You install your own config from the flash, then run luckybackup to restore your data. Reboot and everything is there Sinclair From alangtk at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 11:46:49 2011 From: alangtk at gmail.com (Alan Hoffmeister) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:46:49 -0300 Subject: Kubuntu isn't saving my resolution option Message-ID: Hello guyz! I need to work whit a larger monitor than that one that my notebook have. My default resolution option is: VGA1 (connected) Resolution: 1280 x 1024 LVDS1 (disabled) But when I reboot the PC, I have both VGA1 and LVDS1 enabled and whit a resolution of 1024 x 728. How can I really save this configs? 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Sinclair wrote: > backup and a Remastersys system backup on a bootable usb flash takes no > time. Well, how long it actually takes depends on Sorry to butt in.., I noticed remastersys is no longer in the ubuntu repositories, know what replaces that? There's a "oem-remaster-config', but I've no idea what's that for or how to use that. Remastersys has been rather flaky with maverick as well too. Any ideas? Thanks - Goh Lip -- I used to have an open mind, but my brains kept falling out. From yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com Mon Feb 21 14:23:43 2011 From: yorvik.ubunto at googlemail.com (Yorvyk) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:23:43 +0000 Subject: kubuntu 10.04 restricted extras In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110221142343.3e9cf4a1.yorvik.ubunto@googlemail.com> On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:47:35 +0430 kevin <2006.srinivas at gmail.com> wrote: > Hello guys, > > > Can any one Provide me with links for downloading restricted > extras, since i do not have an internet connetion > http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kubuntu-restricted-extras -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 14:35:10 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:35:10 +0200 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102210540.35683.msh@farsight-data.com> <20110221111314.fe35f8de.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <4D624B85.5050907@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D62781E.2080503@gmail.com> On 21/02/2011 15:56, Goh Lip wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:24:53 +0800, O. Sinclair > wrote: > >> backup and a Remastersys system backup on a bootable usb flash takes >> no time. Well, how long it actually takes depends on > > Sorry to butt in.., I noticed remastersys is no longer in the ubuntu > repositories, know what replaces that? There's a "oem-remaster-config', > but I've no idea what's that for or how to use that. Remastersys has > been rather flaky with maverick as well too. Any ideas? > > Thanks - Goh Lip I have no idea but you find Remastersys here: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ Sinclair From g.lip at gmx.com Mon Feb 21 14:49:52 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:49:52 +0800 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <4D62781E.2080503@gmail.com> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102210540.35683.msh@farsight-data.com> <20110221111314.fe35f8de.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <4D624B85.5050907@gmail.com> <4D62781E.2080503@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:35:10 +0800, O. Sinclair wrote: > I have no idea but you find Remastersys here: > http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ Right, thanks. _ Goh Lip -- From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 18:03:31 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:03:31 -0700 Subject: OpenOffice can't save to a directory with # in the name Message-ID: I just solved a tricky problem with OpenOffice. I'm writing this email for two reasons. First, it might help someone else with the same trouble. Second, I'd like to file a bug and I need advice as to where to file it. My wife has a directory named "Troop #441". Every time she save a file to that directory it ended up in her home dir in a file named "Troop". Actually, I think it was named "Troop " but that took a while to figure out. I finally found that it was the pound sign "#" in the directory name. There is something wrong with saving to such a directory. Some more experimenting showed that it was only when using the KDE dialogs in OO. When I switch to using only the OO dialogs (Tools->Options->General and click "Use OpenOffice dialogs") the problem went away. Of course, now she has ugly dialogs, but at least they work. So my question is where do I file this bug. It appears to be in the implementation of the KDE dialogs in OO. Who does that? Where is the bug DB? Thanks, Michael From rrumberger at web.de Mon Feb 21 18:28:34 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:28:34 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice can't save to a directory with # in the name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102211928.34447.rrumberger@web.de> On Montag 21 Februar 2011, 19:03:31, Michael Hirsch wrote: > I just solved a tricky problem with OpenOffice. I'm writing this > email for two reasons. First, it might help someone else with the > same trouble. Second, I'd like to file a bug and I need advice as to > where to file it. > > My wife has a directory named "Troop #441". Every time she save a > file to that directory it ended up in her home dir in a file named > "Troop". Actually, I think it was named "Troop " but that took a > while to figure out. > > I finally found that it was the pound sign "#" That would be a hash sign - this is the pound sign: £ :-P > in the directory name. > There is something wrong with saving to such a directory. > > Some more experimenting showed that it was only when using the KDE > dialogs in OO. When I switch to using only the OO dialogs > (Tools->Options->General and click "Use OpenOffice dialogs") the > problem went away. Of course, now she has ugly dialogs, but at least > they work. > > So my question is where do I file this bug. It appears to be in the > implementation of the KDE dialogs in OO. Who does that? Where is the > bug DB? Well, like anything else *buntu, try launchpad.net. (Actually, from a terminal window type "ubuntu-bug openoffice.org".) --Reinhold From gldvorak at gmail.com Mon Feb 21 22:58:24 2011 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 14:58:24 -0800 Subject: Kubuntu isn't saving my resolution option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Alan Hoffmeister wrote: > Hello guyz! > > I need to work whit a larger monitor than that one that my notebook have. > My default resolution option is: > VGA1 (connected) > Resolution: 1280 x 1024 > > LVDS1 (disabled) > > But when I reboot the PC, I have both VGA1 and LVDS1 enabled and whit a > resolution of 1024 x 728. > > How can I really save this configs? > > Tanks! > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I had this problem until I loaded the driver for my display (in my case Nvidia) and set the screen resolution there. 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From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue Feb 22 02:22:58 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (claydoh at claydoh.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:22:58 -0500 Subject: How do I use Kubuntu restricted extras? In-Reply-To: <4D6313DF.6030805@mindspring.com> References: <4D6313DF.6030805@mindspring.com> Message-ID: > Using Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. > > I recently went to > http://appnr.com/package/kubuntu-restricted-extras > and downloaded the file > /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kubuntu-restricted-extras.desktop > > It isn't in the repositories or /etc/apt/menu.list > and there is no man page. > Do I use apt-get? > > How do I use this? > Kubuntu-restricted-extras is a so-called meta-package, which basically causes a set of other pre-defined packages to be installed. http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kubuntu-restricted-extras The packages listed on this page are what is also installed when installing this package. You get the Flash plugin installer, some audio/video codecs,an installer for some MS fonts, and rar support for Ark, as well as a couple of other items clay From g.lip at gmx.com Tue Feb 22 02:42:09 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:42:09 +0800 Subject: Kubuntu isn't saving my resolution option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:58:37 +0800, Alan Hoffmeister wrote: > My drive is an Intel onboard, I don't think I have have such option. Do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Save your settings there. Regards - Goh Lip -- From g.lip at gmx.com Tue Feb 22 02:46:08 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:46:08 +0800 Subject: How to load urls in Thunderbird using Firefox? In-Reply-To: <4D631319.5070508@mindspring.com> References: <4D631319.5070508@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:36:25 +0800, Larry Alkoff wrote: > Recently I installed Kubuntu 10.04-2 LTS > but lost my ability to click on a link in an email > and have it load. > How do I set Thunderbird to start urls in Firefox? preferences--->attachment--->content, action.... set to /usr/bin/firefox -- I used to have an open mind, but my brains kept falling out. From g.lip at gmx.com Tue Feb 22 02:55:13 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:55:13 +0800 Subject: Kubuntu isn't saving my resolution option In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:42:09 , Goh Lip wrote: > Do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf? > Save your settings there. Oh, you might want to back up the old one first, (in case...) - From mdhirsch at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 03:39:56 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:39:56 -0700 Subject: OpenOffice can't save to a directory with # in the name In-Reply-To: <201102211928.34447.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102211928.34447.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Montag 21 Februar 2011, 19:03:31, Michael Hirsch wrote: >> I just solved a tricky problem with OpenOffice.  I'm writing this >> email for two reasons.  First, it might help someone else with the >> same trouble.  Second, I'd like to file a bug and I need advice as to >> where to file it. >> >> My wife has a directory named "Troop #441".  Every time she save a >> file to that directory it ended up in her home dir in a file named >> "Troop".  Actually, I think it was named "Troop " but that took a >> while to figure out. >> >> I finally found that it was the pound sign "#" >> in the directory name. >> There is something wrong with saving to such a directory. >> >> Some more experimenting showed that it was only when using the KDE >> dialogs in OO.  When I switch to using only the OO dialogs >> (Tools->Options->General and click "Use OpenOffice dialogs") the >> problem went away.  Of course, now she has ugly dialogs, but at least >> they work. >> >> So my question is where do I file this bug.  It appears to be in the >> implementation of the KDE dialogs in OO.  Who does that?  Where is the >> bug DB? > > Well, like anything else *buntu, try launchpad.net. (Actually, from a terminal > window type "ubuntu-bug openoffice.org".) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/722941 Thanks, Michael From mallamibro at gmail.com Tue Feb 22 12:58:58 2011 From: mallamibro at gmail.com (MALLAMIBRO) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:58:58 +0100 Subject: Support our petition to Save us from a Quack Builder Message-ID: Sir, I am writing this letter on behalf of residents of Tsamiyar Boka Bus stop in Hotoro Quarters, Kano - Nigeria, to beg for your intervention in preventing a possible disaster that is being ignored by the authorities concerned. There is a block of shops at Tsamiyar Boka Bus stop located in Hotoro Quarters in Nassarawa Local Government Area of Kano State in Nigeria. Among all the shops in the area, the ones built by one Alhaji Abdullahi Sammani were built without any regard for normal safety and structural considerations. Right from onset, the shops were built without proper foundations and support pillars. All efforts to get the local regulatory agency (KNUPDA) to take action then, failed. In 2009, the landlord now went ahead and started erecting a top floor to the already unsafe structure, we confronted him about the possible dangers and illegality of his actions but he boasted that he had the approval of the relevant agencies. This prompted us to send a complaint to KNUPDA who investigated and confirmed the claims we made. But no visible action was taken. We next sent a complaint to the Nigerian Institute of Builders (NIOB) who also sent a high level team to investigate, they also confirmed the weak structural base and poor quality materials used. But unfortunately, up to this moment, nothing has been done and have heard the landlord boasting that he'll go ahead with his storey soon. The rains will soon be here and this structure is simply a death trap waiting for when to collapse. We are using this opportunity to appeal to you to use your good offices to help us appeal to all the relevant agencies responsible for enforcing building safety regulations in the country to intervene in this issue and save our community from a disaster that is avoidable. It is very baffling that after confirming our claims, KNUPDA and NIOB have swept the matter under the carpet. Please, help save us from this blatant disregard for human lives/properties. Ibrahim K. Oyekanmi +2347025818401 On behalf of concerned residents NB: We have started an onlline petition on the issue at : http://www.change.org/petitions/save-our-community-from-an-impending-disaster# please, we need your intervention to in all possible ways to ensure the authoritities take appropriate action. IKO From labradley at mindspring.com Tue Feb 22 13:45:57 2011 From: labradley at mindspring.com (Larry Alkoff) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:45:57 -0600 Subject: How to load urls in Thunderbird using Firefox? In-Reply-To: References: <4D631319.5070508@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <4D63BE15.2050908@mindspring.com> On 02/21/2011 08:46 PM, Goh Lip wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:36:25 +0800, Larry Alkoff > wrote: > >> Recently I installed Kubuntu 10.04-2 LTS >> but lost my ability to click on a link in an email >> and have it load. >> How do I set Thunderbird to start urls in Firefox? > > preferences--->attachment--->content, action.... > set to /usr/bin/firefox My version 3.1.1.7 used in Kubuntu 10.04.2 LTS under preferences -> attachments does not have a content item for urls and AFAICS there is no way to add it. Something in :about config? Larry From tv.debian at googlemail.com Tue Feb 22 14:42:00 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:42:00 +0100 Subject: How to load urls in Thunderbird using Firefox? In-Reply-To: <4D63BE15.2050908@mindspring.com> References: <4D631319.5070508@mindspring.com> <4D63BE15.2050908@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <4D63CB38.6060404@googlemail.com> 22/02/2011 14:45, Larry Alkoff wrote: > On 02/21/2011 08:46 PM, Goh Lip wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 09:36:25 +0800, Larry Alkoff >> wrote: >> >>> Recently I installed Kubuntu 10.04-2 LTS >>> but lost my ability to click on a link in an email >>> and have it load. >>> How do I set Thunderbird to start urls in Firefox? >> >> preferences--->attachment--->content, action.... >> set to /usr/bin/firefox > > > My version 3.1.1.7 used in Kubuntu 10.04.2 LTS under preferences -> > attachments does not have a content item for urls and AFAICS there is no > way to add it. > > Something in :about config? > > Larry > > Hi, maybe in the advanced settings configuration editor (about:config) search for the strings: network.protocol-handler.app.http network.protocol-handler.app.https and set the value to whatever browser you are using. Hope it helps. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Tue Feb 22 17:16:31 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Wireless problem In-Reply-To: <1634950796.1424384.1298394838182.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <912467346.1424539.1298394991316.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Since upgrading to kdeSC4.6, I have been unable to get a wireless connection to any access point. I can detect wireless signals, but attempting to access either password protected or unsecured access points always times out. I've tried both kdenetwork manager and wicd. Clearly something must have gotten uninstalled or busted during the upgrade, but I can't imagine what. Any help greatly appreciated. Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One other thing to check is in Firefox's preferences to make sure you have checked the option to make firefox the default browser. regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: samorris.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 126 bytes Desc: not available URL: From oeyrvin at hagan.no Tue Feb 22 23:51:16 2011 From: oeyrvin at hagan.no (Ole-Erik Yrvin) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:51:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: Wireless problem In-Reply-To: <912467346.1424539.1298394991316.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa. mail.comcast.net> References: <912467346.1424539.1298394991316.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2015.79.5.23.155.1298418676.squirrel@mail.nittedalsnettet.no> It's my experence too. Ole-Erik Y. > Since upgrading to kdeSC4.6, I have been unable to get a wireless > connection to any access point. I can detect wireless signals, but > attempting to access either password protected or unsecured access points > always times out. > > > I've tried both kdenetwork manager and wicd. Clearly something must have > gotten uninstalled or busted during the upgrade, but I can't imagine what. > > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > > Paul -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar Wed Feb 23 09:21:00 2011 From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar (plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:21:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <508133.46169.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > > > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > > > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > > > confusing. > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Neil > > > > Yes, any of them should work just fine. Though some may come with windows- > > based backup helper software installed, they amount to really, really big > > thumb drives as far as Kubuntu is concerned :) They probably are all >formatted > > > in FAT32 so it is just a matter of plugging it in and having it show in the > > device notifier > > > > clay > > > Thanks for that. I could reformat the drive I suppose. Which would be > better, NTFS or Ext4? > > Neil It all depends, are you going to use it on Windows too? If yes, then you don't really have a choice: NTFS but it's not that greate if you need linux permissions. If you don't care about Windows ext file systems are what you need, they work really good and have a lot of useful features. PL From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Wed Feb 23 09:40:50 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:40:50 -0500 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <508133.46169.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <508133.46169.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D64D622.7010302@optonline.net> On 02/23/2011 04:21 AM, plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar wrote: >>> On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: >>>> I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external >>>> hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any >>>> helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very >>>> confusing. >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Neil >>> Yes, any of them should work just fine. Though some may come with windows- >>> based backup helper software installed, they amount to really, really big >>> thumb drives as far as Kubuntu is concerned :) They probably are all >> formatted >> >>> in FAT32 so it is just a matter of plugging it in and having it show in the >>> device notifier >>> >>> clay >>> >> Thanks for that. I could reformat the drive I suppose. Which would be >> better, NTFS or Ext4? >> >> Neil > It all depends, are you going to use it on Windows too? If yes, then you don't > really have a choice: NTFS but it's not that greate if you need linux > permissions. If you don't care about Windows ext file systems are what you need, > they work really good and have a lot of useful features. > > PL > Look at : http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/ for some useful information about reading extx filesystems from Win7. Read the comments also. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From tv.debian at googlemail.com Wed Feb 23 09:47:13 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:47:13 +0100 Subject: Wireless problem In-Reply-To: <2015.79.5.23.155.1298418676.squirrel@mail.nittedalsnettet.no> References: <912467346.1424539.1298394991316.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <2015.79.5.23.155.1298418676.squirrel@mail.nittedalsnettet.no> Message-ID: <4D64D7A1.700@googlemail.com> 23/02/2011 00:51, Ole-Erik Yrvin wrote: > It's my experence too. > > Ole-Erik Y. > > >> Since upgrading to kdeSC4.6, I have been unable to get a wireless >> connection to any access point. I can detect wireless signals, but >> attempting to access either password protected or unsecured access points >> always times out. >> >> >> I've tried both kdenetwork manager and wicd. Clearly something must have >> gotten uninstalled or busted during the upgrade, but I can't imagine what. >> >> >> Any help greatly appreciated. >> >> >> Paul -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > Hi, I didn't manage to debug that one, but for a quick workaround: ####Warning, understand what you're doing, mixing releases isn't a good idea and you can wreck your system !#### Add Natty to your sources.list: ###################################### ##Natty deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty main restricted deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty main restricted ###################################### Create a preferences file to prevent unwanted upgrade from other packages than network-manager, but still get updates for the packages manually installed from natty: sudo nano /etc/apt/preferences (this will create the file) Package: * Pin: release n=natty Pin-Priority: 101 Save and close, update package manager (I use aptitude) and then install/upgrade: (This is the output of aptitude search ~S~i\(~Anatty\!~Amaverick\) on my system) i isc-dhcp-client i A isc-dhcp-common i A knm-runtime i A network-manager i A network-manager-pptp i network-manager-pptp-kde i plasma-widget-networkmanagement I had to remove "dhcp3-client" and any other network-manager related packages you may have on the system. Don't upgrade anything else, and be aware that mixing releases may break your fridge and make you computer eat a few kittens, but it sure works for me. Hope it helps. From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Wed Feb 23 11:05:18 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:05:18 +0000 Subject: External drives In-Reply-To: <508133.46169.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20110220222449.d85edff2.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <201102201739.45108.claydoh@claydoh.com> <20110221081610.b2e6b546.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> <508133.46169.qm@web30107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20110223110518.51810071.barnaby@drofle.co.uk> From: plberd-kubuntu at yahoo.com.ar To: Kubuntu user technical support Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Re: External drives Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:21:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 > > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 05:24:49 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > I have been told that a good idea for back-ups is to use an external > > > hard drive. Do they all work with Kubuntu and does anyone have any > > > helpful suggestions please? There are so many on the market it is very > > > confusing. > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Neil > > > > > Thanks for that. I could reformat the drive I suppose. Which would be > better, NTFS or Ext4? > > Neil It all depends, are you going to use it on Windows too? If yes, then you don't really have a choice: NTFS but it's not that greate if you need linux permissions. If you don't care about Windows ext file systems are what you need, they work really good and have a lot of useful features. PL Thanks. I have no interest at all in Windows. All computers here at home run Linux. So Ext4 it is then. Neil -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From 2006.srinivas at gmail.com Wed Feb 23 13:25:21 2011 From: 2006.srinivas at gmail.com (kevin) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:55:21 +0430 Subject: kubuntu 10.04 restricted extras In-Reply-To: <20110221142343.3e9cf4a1.yorvik.ubunto@googlemail.com> References: <20110221142343.3e9cf4a1.yorvik.ubunto@googlemail.com> Message-ID: but that way seems to be very long and unsuccessful somewhere i came across link for offline installer of restricted extras for ubuntu but not for kubuntu On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Yorvyk wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:47:35 +0430 > kevin <2006.srinivas at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello guys, > > > > > > Can any one Provide me with links for downloading restricted > > extras, since i do not have an internet connetion > > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kubuntu-restricted-extras > > -- > Steve Cook (Yorvyk) > > http://lubuntu.net > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Larry Alkoff From info at alvin.be Thu Feb 24 08:23:57 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:23:57 +0100 Subject: ~/Desktop disappeared In-Reply-To: <4D65D913.9020707@mindspring.com> References: <4D65D913.9020707@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <201102240923.58663.info@alvin.be> On Thursday 24 February 2011 05:05:39 Larry Alkoff wrote: > I just installed Kubuntu 10.04-2 LTS and somehow my ~/Desktop has > disappeared. > > Luckily I have a backup from the old Kubuntu system with ~/Desktop file. > However, it does not appear in the gui. > > How do I make the ~/Desktop gui folder reappear? > It seems to be special since it normally appears in each of my (usually) > 12 ~/Desktops. Add Widgets -> Folder View In 'Folder View Settings': Location -> Show the Desktop folder The location of the desktop folder is usually ~/Desktop, but you can change that in System Settings -> Account Details -> Paths From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu Feb 24 16:21:08 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:21:08 +0000 Subject: Flash artefacts left on screen Message-ID: <201102241621.09383.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE 4.5.5 and I've noticed that since upgrading Adobe Flash to 10.2 I occasionally see artefacts left on screen after closing Firefox or even changing to another tab. This photo http://twitpic.com/438nvx is an example of what I'm seeing at the moment after visiting play.com's website, closing down Firefox and bringing up Kontact. It stays in the same place on screen and this time is only visible when the background of the window is white, I've also had it after watching videos from YouTube where the background had to be black to see it. If I do a screen grab, the artefact isn't visible. Any ideas? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From gheskett at wdtv.com Thu Feb 24 17:11:16 2011 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:11:16 -0500 Subject: ~/Desktop disappeared In-Reply-To: <201102240923.58663.info@alvin.be> References: <4D65D913.9020707@mindspring.com> <201102240923.58663.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <201102241211.16782.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:03:24 pm Alvin did opine: > On Thursday 24 February 2011 05:05:39 Larry Alkoff wrote: > > I just installed Kubuntu 10.04-2 LTS and somehow my ~/Desktop has > > disappeared. > > > > Luckily I have a backup from the old Kubuntu system with ~/Desktop > > file. However, it does not appear in the gui. > > > > How do I make the ~/Desktop gui folder reappear? > > It seems to be special since it normally appears in each of my > > (usually) 12 ~/Desktops. > > Add Widgets -> Folder View > In 'Folder View Settings': Location -> Show the Desktop folder > > The location of the desktop folder is usually ~/Desktop, but you can > change that in System Settings -> Account Details -> Paths I have a somewhat similar problem. After a reboot, I only have a cashew in the upper right corner of screen 1, its missing on the other 9 workspaces, so I have no background, just black with the pager, clock, menu in the bottom bar. Any clues? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Rich bachelors should be heavily taxed. It is not fair that some men should be happier than others. -- Oscar Wilde From fsunoles at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 22:18:06 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:18:06 -0700 Subject: Auto check for updates Message-ID: Kubuntu 10.04 I have a machine that only has telephone modem access to the Internet. When I establish a connection with my ISP, Kubuntu performs an apt-get update and I then get a pop-up message about needing to update the computer. I would like to disable the automatic apt-get update "feature" when an Internet connection is established. From fsunoles at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 22:23:35 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:23:35 -0700 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected Message-ID: Kubuntu 10.04 I've noticed a new "feature" recently. If I ssh into machine "B" from machine "A" and then walk over to machine "B" and execute a shutdown, I get a message notifying me another person is logged in from machine "A." The message asks if the shutdown should be canceled or continued. I'd like to set the default to shutdown with no consideration of other connections. How can I accomplish this? From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Feb 24 23:22:52 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:22:52 -0500 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102241822.52775.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Thursday, February 24, 2011, Homer wrote: > I've noticed a new "feature" recently. If I ssh into machine "B" from > machine "A" and then walk over to machine "B" and execute a shutdown, > I get a message notifying me another person is logged in from machine > "A." The message asks if the shutdown should be canceled or > continued. I'd like to set the default to shutdown with no > consideration of other connections. How can I accomplish this? Why not just issue the shutdown from machine A while you are ssh'd. Save yourself the walk and the 'irritation'. From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Feb 24 23:28:31 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Wireless problem In-Reply-To: <1457944167.1589621.1298590051807.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <423760300.1589701.1298590111021.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> It appears that the problem was incomplete removal of the knetwork manager app. Something must have happened during the upgrade to 4.6 that restored it to the inoperable state it had known since kdeSC4.3. I used synaptic package manager to mark the package for "complete removal" rather than just for "removal" (purge option in apt-get) and installed wicd. Now wicd works fine and I can connect wirelessly! P ----- Original Message ----- From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Cc: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:16:31 PM Subject: Wireless problem Since upgrading to kdeSC4.6, I have been unable to get a wireless connection to any access point. I can detect wireless signals, but attempting to access either password protected or unsecured access points always times out. I've tried both kdenetwork manager and wicd. Clearly something must have gotten uninstalled or busted during the upgrade, but I can't imagine what. Any help greatly appreciated. Paul -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Does anyone know how I can get her printer working again? > > I filed a report at https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/144235 > and was told to update hplip... but having asked twice how to do so, I have > not received any responses. Can anyone here tell me how to get the more > recent hplip package on to my wife's maverick system? > > I'd really hate to have to go back to Windows on that machine, but I'm sure > you can appreciate that not being able to print is not a viable position to > be in. > > Doc Sorry for the late reply. I had to update hplip on a friends box last week which gave me quite some problems because the installer for some reason doesn't install the driver!? I'll try to write down the steps I used. 1) Download the driver from http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/hplip/3.10.9/hplip-3.10.9.run/download 2) Unpack the driver by running: sh hplip-3.10.9.run and select 'q' to quit at the first prompt. 3) Change directory to the unpacked directory: cd hplip-3.10.9 4) Configure, build and install the driver: make clean ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-foomatic-rip-hplip-install --enable-foomatic-drv-install --disable-network-build make sudo make install NOTE: During configure you will probably get a lot of warnings about missing dependencies. You'll have to install these by hand (using apt-get, aptitude, kpackagekit or whatever your used to). Most of these packages are development packages (with a '-dev' suffix) and the configure script will try to tell you which package to install, but I had to search the the package database to try and find the right packages. The reason for the --disable-network-build switch is because there was a missing package that I couldn't find. Feel free to ask if you get stuck. -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From tanghus at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 10:44:05 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:44:05 +0100 Subject: maverick: HP Officejet 4215 no longer prints text In-Reply-To: <201102251133.54616.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <4D4D8F22.2020803@gmail.com> <4D5C565B.8020802@gmail.com> <201102251133.54616.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102251144.06071.tanghus@gmail.com> On Friday 25 February 2011 11:33:53 Thomas Olsen wrote: > > make clean > ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-foomatic-rip-hplip-install > --enable-foomatic-drv-install --disable-network-build make > sudo make install I forgot something: Before you start remove any printers you have setup in System Settings. 5) After installation unplug the printer and plug it in again. Run: hp-check -r to check for any errors and to see if it finds a(ny) printer(s) under "DISCOVERED USB DEVICES". 6) If everything looks OK run: hp-setup to set up the printer. BTW: No warranty. This may break your printing entirely ;-) -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From fsunoles at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 16:45:23 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:45:23 -0600 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: <201102241822.52775.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201102241822.52775.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday, February 24, 2011, Homer wrote: >> I've noticed a new "feature" recently.  If I ssh into machine "B" from >> machine "A" and then walk over to machine "B" and execute a shutdown, >> I get a message notifying me another person is logged in from machine >> "A."  The message asks if the shutdown should be canceled or >> continued.  I'd like to set the default to shutdown with no >> consideration of other connections.  How can I accomplish this? > > Why not just issue the shutdown from machine A while you are ssh'd. > Save yourself the walk and the 'irritation'. My example is to illustrate the issue I'd like to address. It is not meant as an exact representation of my actual computer placement/location/configuration. The text in the message window I get when rebooting is: Restart Computer Abort Active Sessions: Session use: TTY login OK Cancel I've been poking around the system config settings and have not found a way to turn off this behavior. It must be there. If it were a snake, I suspect I'd be bit by now. From rameijer at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 16:58:04 2011 From: rameijer at gmail.com (Raymond A. Meijer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:58:04 +0200 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: References: <201102241822.52775.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On 25 February 2011 18:45, Homer wrote: > The text in the message window I get when rebooting is: > > Restart Computer > Abort Active Sessions: > Session > use: TTY login > OK Cancel > But that's a console login, right? Not an SSH session... Ray -- *Raymond A. 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If instead I log in as just described, then walk over to B and shutdown using "K -> Leave -> Restart" I get the message box described in my previous post. I found some discussion on this on the bug lists, but those discussions related to the timing of the message, not how to disable it. It does seem to be buggish as the message occurs well into the shutdown process, and selecting cancel requires entering the password again. From fsunoles at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 17:35:34 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:35:34 -0600 Subject: Auto check for updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Homer wrote: > Kubuntu 10.04 > > I have a machine that only has telephone modem access to the Internet. >  When I establish a connection with my ISP, Kubuntu performs an > apt-get update and I then get a pop-up message about needing to update > the computer.  I would like to disable the automatic apt-get update > "feature" when an Internet connection is established. I may have resolved this issue. It looks like deleting the following two packages will do the job. A hammer approach I guess, but so be it. kpackagekit kubuntu-debug-installer If this doesn't work, I'll report back. From valtermura at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 17:43:18 2011 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:43:18 +0100 Subject: Auto check for updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102251843.19726.valtermura@gmail.com> In data venerdì 25 febbraio 2011 18:35:34, Homer ha scritto: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Homer wrote: > > Kubuntu 10.04 > > > > I have a machine that only has telephone modem access to the Internet. > > When I establish a connection with my ISP, Kubuntu performs an > > apt-get update and I then get a pop-up message about needing to update > > the computer. I would like to disable the automatic apt-get update > > "feature" when an Internet connection is established. > > I may have resolved this issue. It looks like deleting the following > two packages will do the job. A hammer approach I guess, but so be > it. You can also disable the update setting it to "never" in the settings of Kpackagekit... -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From valtermura at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 17:51:27 2011 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:51:27 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice can't save to a directory with # in the name In-Reply-To: References: <201102211928.34447.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102251851.27527.valtermura@gmail.com> In data martedì 22 febbraio 2011 04:39:56, Michael Hirsch ha scritto: > > Well, like anything else *buntu, try launchpad.net. (Actually, from a > > terminal window type "ubuntu-bug openoffice.org".) > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/722941 > I suggest to you to file a bug also to OpenOffice.org -- Valter Registered Linux User #466410 http://counter.li.org Kubuntu Linux: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org OpenOffice.org: www.openoffice.org From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Feb 25 18:02:48 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:02:48 -0500 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102251302.49428.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday, February 25, 2011, Homer wrote: > > But that's a console login, right? Not an SSH session... > > Right. As the other person suggested, if while sitting at "A" and > logged into "B" I then issue a "shutdown -r now" command, machine B > will reboot. If instead I log in as just described, then walk over to > B and shutdown using "K -> Leave -> Restart" I get the message box > described in my previous post. > > I found some discussion on this on the bug lists, but those > discussions related to the timing of the message, not how to disable > it. It does seem to be buggish as the message occurs well into the > shutdown process, and selecting cancel requires entering the password > again. So why do you want to negate what is obviously a protection against shutting down a machine that has 'users' logged in?? Linux is, after all, a multi-user system. (just think Windows.... "Do you really want to do this??") Just kidding. From fsunoles at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 19:08:48 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:48 -0700 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: <201102251302.49428.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201102251302.49428.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday, February 25, 2011, Homer wrote: >> > But that's a console login, right? Not an SSH session... >> >> Right.  As the other person suggested, if while sitting at "A" and >> logged into "B" I then issue a "shutdown -r now" command, machine B >> will reboot.  If instead I log in as just described, then walk over to >> B and shutdown using "K -> Leave -> Restart" I get the message box >> described in my previous post. >> >> I found some discussion on this on the bug lists, but those >> discussions related to the timing of the message, not how to disable >> it.  It does seem to be buggish as the message occurs well into the >> shutdown process, and selecting cancel requires entering the password >> again. > > So why do you want to negate what is obviously a protection against shutting > down a machine that has 'users' logged in?? > > Linux is, after all, a multi-user system. > > (just think Windows....  "Do you really want to do this??")  Just kidding. I'm the only user that will ever be on these machines. Unless I'm no longer employed here, then the next person will be the only user. Do you know how to disable this feature? From fsunoles at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 19:12:18 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:12:18 -0700 Subject: Auto check for updates In-Reply-To: <201102251843.19726.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <201102251843.19726.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Valter Mura wrote: > In data venerdì 25 febbraio 2011 18:35:34, Homer ha scritto: > >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Homer wrote: >> > Kubuntu 10.04 >> > >> > I have a machine that only has telephone modem access to the Internet. >> >  When I establish a connection with my ISP, Kubuntu performs an >> > apt-get update and I then get a pop-up message about needing to update >> > the computer.  I would like to disable the automatic apt-get update >> > "feature" when an Internet connection is established. >> >> I may have resolved this issue.  It looks like deleting the following >> two packages will do the job.  A hammer approach I guess, but so be >> it. > > You can also disable the update setting it to "never" in the settings of > Kpackagekit... Your solution is better. I didn't take the time to explore configuring Kpackagekit. From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri Feb 25 19:20:55 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:20:55 -0500 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: References: <201102251302.49428.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201102251420.55930.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday, February 25, 2011, Homer wrote: > I'm the only user that will ever be on these machines. Unless I'm no > longer employed here, then the next person will be the only user. Do > you know how to disable this feature? Fine, then tell the developers that you need your own version of a single-user linux. I think you are picking at nits. From fsunoles at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 19:57:46 2011 From: fsunoles at gmail.com (Homer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:57:46 -0700 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: <201102251420.55930.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201102251302.49428.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201102251420.55930.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday, February 25, 2011, Homer wrote: >> I'm the only user that will ever be on these machines.  Unless I'm no >> longer employed here, then the next person will be the only user.  Do >> you know how to disable this feature? > > Fine, then tell the developers that you need your own version of a single-user > linux.   I think you are picking at nits. Wow. I'm guessing like most things Linux, there is an option to turn it off. I don't know how. Maybe someone here does, or can confirm there is no option to turn it off. From chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk Sat Feb 26 01:34:21 2011 From: chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk (Chris Luck) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 01:34:21 +0000 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 16/02/11 07:29, Jerry Lapham wrote: > I had a Win98 install disk and 36GiB of free space at the end of my > HD, so I formatted it as FAT32 and it became /dev/sda4. > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the > right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. How > can I point it to /dev/sda4? I had to resort to Wikipedia to remind myself of basic capabilities and limitations of Win98 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_98 Fat32 should be ok but there's a reference to issues with drives over 32 gig, also the available RAM may be more than it can manage. See 'System requirements' and 'Physical RAM limit' at the foot of page. -- Regards, Chris Luck From rjlapham at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 22:32:27 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:32:27 -0500 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102210228.44585.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102201927.24554.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102210228.44585.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Sunday, February 20, 2011 08:28:44 pm Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Montag 21 Februar 2011, 01:27:24, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 08:55:09 am Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > > > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't the > > > > > right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting it. > > > > > How can I point it to /dev/sda4? > > > > > > I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed to > > > sda1. You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically so that > > > Win98 sees sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for the > > > install CD, too, and I don't know how to do that. > > > > Does the Win98 install CD use the existing partition table in the master > > boot record? Would it use the first entry there as Drive C? > > Yes. > > > If so, > > swappng the bytes from the fourth entry and those from the first entry > > ought to do it, correct? > > That seems pretty much like what I wrote. Or at least what I was trying to > write... ;-) > > --Reinhold Well, the swap worked -- that is, Linux still boots and GParted now shows swap as sda4 and my new FAT32 partition as sda1. Unfortunately, the Windows installer still says DriveC isn't the right format. I decided to take a chance and let it format DriveC assuming DriveC = sda1 and it wouldn't touch my other partitions. The installer says there's a disk error and can't format DriveC. I'm guessing it doesn't like the fact that sda1 is sectors 411521040 thru 488392064. Assuming this is correct, I'm thinking about swapping the partition table back and then sacrificing my Mandriva 2008.1 partition on sda2 by combining it with sda1 and creating a new swap. I assume this wouldn't cause a problem with the other Linux partition numbers since they are all logical. Sound like it would work? -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= 47% of all statistics are made up on the spot. From jl.ffm at gmx.net Sat Feb 26 23:15:07 2011 From: jl.ffm at gmx.net (J. L.) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:15:07 +0100 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102201927.24554.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102210228.44585.rrumberger@web.de> <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4D69897B.7050109@gmx.net> Am 26.02.2011 23:32 schrieb Jerry Lapham: > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 08:28:44 pm Reinhold Rumberger wrote: _Perhaps_ i may be wrong but from working also with Windows ever since Windows 3.0 i am nearly absolutely sure that old DOS-derived Windows-versions as for example Windows 98 can only be installed on the first primary partition i. e. sda1 or the C:-drive. Newer Windows-versions derived from NT (NT 3.x, 4, 2000, XP, Vista, 7) can under certain circumstances be installed on something else then the first primary partition but, at least to the best of my knowledge, they still do need primary partitions and can not be installed on sda5 and so on ... If my writing above really should be wrong i'd be thankful for any corrections or improvements. From rrumberger at web.de Sun Feb 27 01:38:07 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:38:07 +0100 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <4D69897B.7050109@gmx.net> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4D69897B.7050109@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201102270238.08226.rrumberger@web.de> On Sonntag 27 Februar 2011, 00:15:07, J. L. wrote: > Am 26.02.2011 23:32 schrieb Jerry Lapham: > > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 08:28:44 pm Reinhold Rumberger wrote: Way to quote... > _Perhaps_ i may be wrong but from working also with Windows ever since > Windows 3.0 i am nearly absolutely sure that old DOS-derived > Windows-versions as for example Windows 98 can only be installed on the > first primary partition i. e. sda1 or the C:-drive. > > Newer Windows-versions derived from NT (NT 3.x, 4, 2000, XP, Vista, 7) > can under certain circumstances be installed on something else then the > first primary partition but, at least to the best of my knowledge, they > still do need primary partitions and can not be installed on sda5 and so > on ... > > If my writing above really should be wrong i'd be thankful for any > corrections or improvements. While this is correct, we're long past this. Jerry tried making his free partition sda1 and it didn't work... --Reinhold From rrumberger at web.de Sun Feb 27 01:52:59 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:52:59 +0100 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102210228.44585.rrumberger@web.de> <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102270252.59767.rrumberger@web.de> On Samstag 26 Februar 2011, 23:32:27, Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Sunday, February 20, 2011 08:28:44 pm Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > On Montag 21 Februar 2011, 01:27:24, Jerry Lapham wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 08:55:09 am Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > > > > > > When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't > > > > > > the right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting > > > > > > it. How can I point it to /dev/sda4? > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed > > > > to sda1. You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically > > > > so that Win98 sees sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for > > > > the install CD, too, and I don't know how to do that. > > > > > > Does the Win98 install CD use the existing partition table in the > > > master boot record? Would it use the first entry there as Drive C? > > > > Yes. > > > > > If so, > > > swappng the bytes from the fourth entry and those from the first entry > > > ought to do it, correct? > > > > That seems pretty much like what I wrote. Or at least what I was trying > > to write... ;-) > > Well, the swap worked -- that is, Linux still boots and GParted now shows > swap as sda4 and my new FAT32 partition as sda1. I think it may be more relevant what fdisk says, but I assume that either gparted uses fdisk or the both access the same table in the kernel, so this may be a moot point. > Unfortunately, the Windows installer still says DriveC isn't the right > format. I decided to take a chance and let it format DriveC assuming > DriveC = sda1 and it wouldn't touch my other partitions. > > The installer says there's a disk error and can't format DriveC. I'm > guessing it doesn't like the fact that sda1 is sectors 411521040 thru > 488392064. I'm not sure, but what is the max sector Win98 can address? Since I'm not sure what you need Win98 for, but would installing it in a VM be an option? That might save you some trouble and you wouldn't have to reboot all the time... > Assuming this is correct, I'm thinking about swapping the partition table > back and then sacrificing my Mandriva 2008.1 partition on sda2 by > combining it with sda1 and creating a new swap. I assume this wouldn't > cause a problem with the other Linux partition numbers since they are all > logical. > > Sound like it would work? Logical partition numbers shouldn't be affected by any changes to the primary partitions apart from - perhaps - the changes to the primary that houses them, so this sounds like it may work. Anyway I so wouldn't trust the Win98 installer, so you should definitely do a backup first, including (at least) a copy of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda", so that you can manually restore everything, should the installer break it. --Reinhold From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun Feb 27 06:09:45 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 01:09:45 -0500 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102270252.59767.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102210228.44585.rrumberger@web.de> <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102270252.59767.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <4D69EAA9.2020305@optonline.net> On 02/26/2011 08:52 PM, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Samstag 26 Februar 2011, 23:32:27, Jerry Lapham wrote: >> On Sunday, February 20, 2011 08:28:44 pm Reinhold Rumberger wrote: >>> On Montag 21 Februar 2011, 01:27:24, Jerry Lapham wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 08:55:09 am Reinhold Rumberger wrote: >>>>>>> When I booted from the Win98 install disk it said DriveC wasn't >>>>>>> the right format and wouldn't let me install without formatting >>>>>>> it. How can I point it to /dev/sda4? >>>>> I'm pretty sure it can't be done easily. Win9x wants to be installed >>>>> to sda1. You can try to use grub to swap sda1 and sda4 (basically >>>>> so that Win98 sees sda4 as sda1). However, that needs to be done for >>>>> the install CD, too, and I don't know how to do that. >>>> Does the Win98 install CD use the existing partition table in the >>>> master boot record? Would it use the first entry there as Drive C? >>> Yes. >>> >>>> If so, >>>> swappng the bytes from the fourth entry and those from the first entry >>>> ought to do it, correct? >>> That seems pretty much like what I wrote. Or at least what I was trying >>> to write... ;-) >> Well, the swap worked -- that is, Linux still boots and GParted now shows >> swap as sda4 and my new FAT32 partition as sda1. > I think it may be more relevant what fdisk says, but I assume that either > gparted uses fdisk or the both access the same table in the kernel, so this > may be a moot point. > >> Unfortunately, the Windows installer still says DriveC isn't the right >> format. I decided to take a chance and let it format DriveC assuming >> DriveC = sda1 and it wouldn't touch my other partitions. >> >> The installer says there's a disk error and can't format DriveC. I'm >> guessing it doesn't like the fact that sda1 is sectors 411521040 thru >> 488392064. > I'm not sure, but what is the max sector Win98 can address? Since I'm not sure > what you need Win98 for, but would installing it in a VM be an option? That > might save you some trouble and you wouldn't have to reboot all the time... > >> Assuming this is correct, I'm thinking about swapping the partition table >> back and then sacrificing my Mandriva 2008.1 partition on sda2 by >> combining it with sda1 and creating a new swap. I assume this wouldn't >> cause a problem with the other Linux partition numbers since they are all >> logical. >> >> Sound like it would work? > Logical partition numbers shouldn't be affected by any changes to the primary > partitions apart from - perhaps - the changes to the primary that houses them, > so this sounds like it may work. > Anyway I so wouldn't trust the Win98 installer, so you should definitely do a > backup first, including (at least) a copy of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda", so that > you can manually restore everything, should the installer break it. > > --Reinhold > I haven't been closely following this thread, but if you have two drives, you can put Windows on one of them, on the first partition. Disconnect the other drive(s) while you do this, so Windows thinks this is the C\ drive. What I did was to completely wipe the drive (it was a spare) and let Windows--XP in my case--format it the way it wanted to, and then install. I put the drive back in , when done, and let it be sdb1, and then modified GRUB to look for the Windows booter. If you need the instructions I used for the PCLOS version of GRUB, I'll have to look up the script and copy the section out for you. At any rate, I have PCLOS on sda, XP on sdb1, and Zorin on sdb5 and 6, and everything works. These are IDE drives, but I don't know why it would matter. (Old machine.) --doug the -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From g.lip at gmx.com Sun Feb 27 06:23:16 2011 From: g.lip at gmx.com (Goh Lip) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:23:16 +0800 Subject: Install Win98 on /dev/sda4 In-Reply-To: <201102270238.08226.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201102160229.20532.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201102261732.27440.rjlapham@gmail.com> <4D69897B.7050109@gmx.net> <201102270238.08226.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:38:07 +0800, Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > While this is correct, we're long past this. Jerry tried making his free > partition sda1 and it didn't work... Just to be sure, Jerry should type "sudo parted -l" to check if it is indeed in the first partition. "sudo blkid" will not show in the right partition order. Having it as /dev/sda1 does not necessarily mean it's really in the first partition. BTW, I was quite certain it needs to be in the first primary partition when a ubuntu developer disgreed with me (in another list) saying he has even put dos in a logical partition. Perhaps he has done some hacking as Waleed mentioned before. Since I am now not sure, I did not mention this earlier. Regards - Goh Lip From helder.earth at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 14:41:18 2011 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:41:18 -0300 Subject: Problems in Kubuntu's loading screen Message-ID: <4D6A628E.7080800@gmail.com> I've recently installed a new video card, a Nvidia 7200GS and my Kubuntu 10.10 drivers worked perfectly. But ever since I've installed it, the system loading screen (the blue one with the Kubuntu logo) doesn't seem to recognize the video drivers. It shows only a rough blue screen with Kubuntu wrtitten on it, as if the video drivers hadn't been installed at all. Once it gets to the login screen, though, the video driver works fine and there's no problem. Again, when I give the shutdow command, the blue screen goes as if there were no video drivers installed. Anyone with a similar problem? Thanks, Helder Terra From michael.renner at gmx.de Sun Feb 27 19:59:39 2011 From: michael.renner at gmx.de (Michael Renner) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:59:39 +0100 Subject: missing icons in KDE Message-ID: <201102272059.39618.michael.renner@gmx.de> Moin, I miss some icons in kde. In kontact (kmail) the icons in the file menu for open, save as, import and print (and many more in other menus). I see no error messages about missing icons in the console where kontact was started. I use the 10.04 LTS with KDE 4.4.5. renner at mars:~$ dpkg --list kdeart* | grep ^ii ii kdeartwork 4:4.4.5-0ubuntu1 ii kdeartwork-emoticons 4:4.4.5-0ubuntu1 ii kdeartwork-style 4:4.4.5-0ubuntu1 ii kdeartwork-theme-icon 4:4.4.5-0ubuntu1 ii kdeartwork-theme-window 4:4.4.5-0ubuntu1 Any hint? Thanks! -- |Michael Renner E-mail: michael.renner at gmx.de | |D-81541 Munich Germany ICQ: #112280325 | |Germany Don't drink as root! ESC:wq From rajuramvani at gmail.com Sun Feb 27 23:53:34 2011 From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (rajubhai ramvani) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:23:34 +0530 Subject: cant log in Message-ID: dear sir, i am using kubuntu 9.04.newly i upgrade 9.10 .i restart the pc after upgrade version.but i cant login .the pc asking password i enter the my password (previous i used) but i cant log in .the display is asking password .which password will use now .so help me. rajuramvani. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Mon Feb 28 03:50:14 2011 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey Sr.) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:50:14 -0500 Subject: Problems in Kubuntu's loading screen In-Reply-To: <4D6A628E.7080800@gmail.com> References: <4D6A628E.7080800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102272250.14851.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> On Sunday, February 27, 2011 09:41:18 am Helder Terra wrote: > I've recently installed a new video card, a Nvidia 7200GS and my Kubuntu > 10.10 drivers worked perfectly. > > But ever since I've installed it, the system loading screen (the blue > one with the Kubuntu logo) doesn't seem to recognize the video drivers. > It shows only a rough blue screen with Kubuntu wrtitten on it, as if the > video drivers hadn't been installed at all. > > Once it gets to the login screen, though, the video driver works fine > and there's no problem. Again, when I give the shutdow command, the blue > screen goes as if there were no video drivers installed. > > Anyone with a similar problem? > > Thanks, > > Helder Terra > > Yeah it looks really ugly, doesn't it? Its got something do with some customization that Ubuntu does. There is a fix though. Install v86d and hwinfo then follow the instructions from [1] or [2]. You use the hwinfo command to find out the possible resolutions of your screen. Basically you have to edit a grub file then tell your Kubuntu to use it. I've used it on multiple machines and it works. [1] http://www.snippety.org/articles/2010/10/11/fix-plymouth-boot-splash-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/ [2] http://nerdlogger.com/2010/11/01/fixing-plymouth-boot-splash-in-ubuntu-10-10-aka-maverick-meerkat/ Alan From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 05:33:14 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:33:14 -0700 Subject: OpenOffice can't save to a directory with # in the name In-Reply-To: <201102251851.27527.valtermura@gmail.com> References: <201102211928.34447.rrumberger@web.de> <201102251851.27527.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Valter Mura wrote: > In data martedì 22 febbraio 2011 04:39:56, Michael Hirsch ha scritto: > >> > Well, like anything else *buntu, try launchpad.net. (Actually, from a >> > terminal window type "ubuntu-bug openoffice.org".) >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/722941 >> > > I suggest to you to file a bug also to OpenOffice.org I would, but I'd really like to know who builds the KDE adapter for OO that makes OO use the KDE menus. I'm pretty sure that is where the problem lies, but I'm not convinced that OO actually controls that code. Is it OO or KDE or Ubuntu, or someone else? Thanks, Michael From mdhirsch at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 05:40:13 2011 From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:40:13 -0700 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: <201102251420.55930.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201102251302.49428.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201102251420.55930.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Friday, February 25, 2011, Homer wrote: >> I'm the only user that will ever be on these machines.  Unless I'm no >> longer employed here, then the next person will be the only user.  Do >> you know how to disable this feature? > > Fine, then tell the developers that you need your own version of a single-user > linux.   I think you are picking at nits. No, he's not. When a user has a desired behavior to tell that that they are wrong is counterproductive. Just because Linux may be potentially multiuser, doesn't mean it is for everyone. My wife's computer is single user, my kids computers are single user. Even my computer is single user, most of the time. When I tell my computer to shutdown (usually by hitting CTRL-ATL-DEL in KDE then hitting return, that is what I expect it to do. I don't like coming back to it the next evening and discovering that it didn't shut down because a) I had lagged in remotely from work, or b) I logged in on a VC. Apparently some people would like the computer to stay on forever in that circumstance. That is fine with me. But I know a fairly large number of people who would like to set an option to have the machine shut down when it is told to. This is a pretty common complaint, and I have yet to see an answer to it. Michael From michael.renner at gmx.de Mon Feb 28 05:53:12 2011 From: michael.renner at gmx.de (Michael Renner) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 06:53:12 +0100 Subject: cant log in In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102280653.12457.michael.renner@gmx.de> On Monday 28 February 2011, rajubhai ramvani wrote: > dear sir, > i am using kubuntu 9.04.newly i upgrade 9.10 .i restart the pc after > upgrade version.but i cant login .the pc asking password i enter the my > password (previous i used) but i cant log in .the display is asking > password .which password will use now .so help me. > rajuramvani. Please check the permissions in /tmp: $ ls -ld /tmp/ drwxrwxrwt 16 root root 440 Feb 28 06:50 /tmp/ ^^^^^^ this must match with your settings! CU -- |Michael Renner E-mail: michael.renner at gmx.de | |D-81541 Munich Germany ICQ: #112280325 | |Germany Don't drink as root! ESC:wq From kassube at gmx.net Mon Feb 28 07:13:04 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:13:04 +0100 Subject: OpenOffice can't save to a directory with # in the name In-Reply-To: References: <201102251851.27527.valtermura@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201102280813.04530.kassube@gmx.net> Michael Hirsch wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Valter Mura wrote: > > In data martedì 22 febbraio 2011 04:39:56, Michael Hirsch ha scritto: > >> > Well, like anything else *buntu, try launchpad.net. (Actually, > >> > from a terminal window type "ubuntu-bug openoffice.org".) > >> > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/7229 > >> 41 > > > > I suggest to you to file a bug also to OpenOffice.org > > I would, but I'd really like to know who builds the KDE adapter for > OO that makes OO use the KDE menus. I'm pretty sure that is where > the problem lies, but I'm not convinced that OO actually controls > that code. Is it OO or KDE or Ubuntu, or someone else? Maybe this is what you are looking for: ~/ > apt-cache show openoffice.org-kde|grep Homepage Homepage: http://www.go-oo.org Homepage: http://www.go-oo.org Nils From helder.earth at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 11:37:20 2011 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:37:20 -0300 Subject: Problems in Kubuntu's loading screen References: <4D6A628E.7080800@gmail.com> <201102272250.14851.grokit@ajinfosearch.com> Message-ID: <001001cbd73b$df7944a0$4501a8c0@R161> Thanks Alan, I've just went throught your [1] solution and it worked fine. Helder Terra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Dacey Sr." To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Problems in Kubuntu's loading screen > On Sunday, February 27, 2011 09:41:18 am Helder Terra wrote: >> I've recently installed a new video card, a Nvidia 7200GS and my Kubuntu >> 10.10 drivers worked perfectly. >> >> But ever since I've installed it, the system loading screen (the blue >> one with the Kubuntu logo) doesn't seem to recognize the video drivers. >> It shows only a rough blue screen with Kubuntu wrtitten on it, as if the >> video drivers hadn't been installed at all. >> >> Once it gets to the login screen, though, the video driver works fine >> and there's no problem. Again, when I give the shutdow command, the blue >> screen goes as if there were no video drivers installed. >> >> Anyone with a similar problem? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Helder Terra >> >> > > > Yeah it looks really ugly, doesn't it? Its got something do with some > customization that Ubuntu does. There is a fix though. > Install v86d and hwinfo then follow the instructions from [1] or [2]. You > use the hwinfo command to find out the possible resolutions of your > screen. > Basically you have to edit a grub file then tell your Kubuntu to use it. > I've used it on multiple machines and it works. > > [1] > http://www.snippety.org/articles/2010/10/11/fix-plymouth-boot-splash-on-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/ > [2] > http://nerdlogger.com/2010/11/01/fixing-plymouth-boot-splash-in-ubuntu-10-10-aka-maverick-meerkat/ > > > Alan > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From claydoh at claydoh.com Mon Feb 28 12:39:07 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:39:07 -0500 Subject: Shutdown pauses when others are connected In-Reply-To: References: <201102251420.55930.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201102280739.08047.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Monday, February 28, 2011 12:40:13 AM Michael Hirsch wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Friday, February 25, 2011, Homer wrote: > >> I'm the only user that will ever be on these machines. Unless I'm no > >> longer employed here, then the next person will be the only user. Do > >> you know how to disable this feature? > > > > Fine, then tell the developers that you need your own version of a > > single-user linux. I think you are picking at nits. > > No, he's not. When a user has a desired behavior to tell that that > they are wrong is counterproductive. Just because Linux may be > potentially multiuser, doesn't mean it is for everyone. My wife's > computer is single user, my kids computers are single user. Even my > computer is single user, most of the time. > > When I tell my computer to shutdown (usually by hitting CTRL-ATL-DEL > in KDE then hitting return, that is what I expect it to do. I don't > like coming back to it the next evening and discovering that it didn't > shut down because a) I had lagged in remotely from work, or b) I > logged in on a VC. > > Apparently some people would like the computer to stay on forever in > that circumstance. That is fine with me. But I know a fairly large > number of people who would like to set an option to have the machine > shut down when it is told to. > > This is a pretty common complaint, and I have yet to see an answer to it. > > Michael Haven't followed this one all the way, but has anyone looked at the options in /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc? There are a *lot* of well-commented options in there........ clay From rajuramvani at gmail.com Mon Feb 28 14:05:06 2011 From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (rajubhai ramvani) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:35:06 +0530 Subject: cant log in Message-ID: *dear sir, i am a simple home user.so please help me what is this.i cant understand this command .where can i use this command .and which is procedure .so please help me.* dear sir, > i am using kubuntu 9.04.newly i upgrade 9.10 .i restart the pc after > upgrade version.but i cant login .the pc asking password i enter the my > password (previous password) but i cant log in .the display is asking > password .which password will use now .so help me. > rajuramvani. Please check the permissions in /tmp: $ ls -ld /tmp/ drwxrwxrwt 16 root root 440 Feb 28 06:50 /tmp/ -- rajuramvani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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ESC:wq From michael.renner at gmx.de Mon Feb 28 21:10:38 2011 From: michael.renner at gmx.de (Michael Renner) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:10:38 +0100 Subject: missing icons in KDE (solved) In-Reply-To: <201102272059.39618.michael.renner@gmx.de> References: <201102272059.39618.michael.renner@gmx.de> Message-ID: <201102282210.39375.michael.renner@gmx.de> On Sunday 27 February 2011, Michael Renner wrote: > Moin, > > I miss some icons in kde. In kontact (kmail) the icons in the file menu for > open, save as, import and print (and many more in other menus). I configured the wrong icons in the System Settings: Appearance | Icons | Oxygen. It seems that 'Crystal SVG' is missing some icons. CU -- |Michael Renner E-mail: michael.renner at gmx.de | |D-81541 Munich Germany ICQ: #112280325 | |Germany Don't drink as root! ESC:wq