From errol at tzora.co.il Sun May 1 03:12:13 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 06:12:13 +0300 Subject: change desktop Message-ID: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> I downloaded and installed Natty on my notepad as a fresh installation. I received a different desktop to the "standard" Kubuntu desktop. On trying to find out why and how to get the desktop I want I found out that what I had installed (without asking) was the Kubuntu notepad desktop. See the second photo at: http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ I have 2 questions. 1. What is the "grey area" below the panel which is at the top of the screen? 2.How can I get the "standard" Kubuntu desktop onto my notepad? I have looked in settings an cannot see a solution. Errol From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Sun May 1 07:14:45 2011 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 03:14:45 -0400 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4DBD0865.6020608@cfl.rr.com> On 4/30/2011 11:12 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: > I downloaded and installed Natty on my notepad as a fresh > installation. I received a different desktop to the "standard" Kubuntu > desktop. On trying to find out why and how to get the desktop I want I > found out that what I had installed (without asking) was the Kubuntu > notepad desktop. See the second photo at: > http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ > I have 2 questions. 1. What is the "grey area" below the panel which > is at the top of the screen? 2.How can I get the "standard" Kubuntu > desktop onto my notepad? > I have looked in settings an cannot see a solution. > Errol > I was looking for something else and chanced upon this. System Settings -> Workspace -> Workspace Type: Desktop or Netbook. I did not try it as I am happy with my desktop, however, you might find something useful in it. Good luck! Tom -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD ("Who will protect us from the protectors?") From linux at appjaws.plus.com Sun May 1 11:47:16 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:47:16 +0100 Subject: dolphin freezes Message-ID: <201105011247.16939.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Hi all, I have upgraded to the latest version but had some failures but eventually completed although it seems that some of my settings had not been transfered correctly i.e. no task bar. My current problem is that if I wish to rename a mp3 file the dolphin instance locks up. I can however complete the rename if I sudo dolphin. The following are the errors I an getting:- "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model" "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "Invalid iterator." "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a different thread. (Parent is Soprano::Client::LocalSocketClient(0x2833ee8), parent's thread is QThread(0x1f29740), current thread is KLoadFileMetaDataThread(0x3404fe0) "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model" "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model" "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model" "/usr/bin/dolphin(2080)" Soprano: "Invalid iterator." dolphin(2080) KSambaSharePrivate::getNetUserShareInfo: We got some errors while running 'net usershare info' dolphin(2080) KSambaSharePrivate::getNetUserShareInfo: "[2011/05/01 12:36:35.342573, 0] param/loadparm.c:7504(lp_set_enum_parm) WARNING: Ignoring invalid value 'paul' for parameter 'security' What is dolphin trying to do? I am at a loss on how to solve this. Thanks for any help regards Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From linux at appjaws.plus.com Sun May 1 11:50:19 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:50:19 +0100 Subject: saving multiscreen setup Message-ID: <201105011250.19321.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Hi all, I have 2 monitors set up side by side using system settings, I have save the settings as default but everytime I boot the 2 screens are just mirrors, the desktop is not spread across both screens. Any ideas? regards Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From rjlapham at gmail.com Sun May 1 21:49:51 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:49:51 -0400 Subject: Print to .pdf from Wine In-Reply-To: <201103051705.05273.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201103051705.05273.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105011749.51951.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Saturday, March 05, 2011 05:05:05 pm Jerry Lapham wrote: > When I receive .doc and .docx files I've been opening them in Open Office > and converting them to .pdf files. That works fine except when the line > spacing differences between MS Word and Open Office Writer cause a one > page document to slop over to a second page. > > To overcome this problem I've downloaded and installed Microsoft's WordView > to display .doc and .docx files using Wine. To convert them to .pdf > files, I downloaded and installed cups-pdf so I can "print" .pdf files. > > "PDF" now appears as a printer in WordView running under Wine, but when I > "print" to it, nothing shows up in Print Status. "PDF" also shows up in my > other Windows apps and doesn't work either. > > To make sure the problem's not cups-pdf, I printed to "PDF" from kate. The > job showed up in Print Status and created a .pdf file in /home/jerry/PDF. > > Anyone else got it working? Any ideas why it's not working here? I posted the above almost two months ago with no response. I wondered if anyone else since then has tried it and got it to work. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Sun May 1 22:31:04 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 01:31:04 +0300 Subject: Print to .pdf from Wine In-Reply-To: <201105011749.51951.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <201103051705.05273.rjlapham@gmail.com> <201105011749.51951.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DBDDF28.6050307@whamra.com> On 05/02/2011 12:49 AM, Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Saturday, March 05, 2011 05:05:05 pm Jerry Lapham wrote: > >> When I receive .doc and .docx files I've been opening them in Open Office >> and converting them to .pdf files. That works fine except when the line >> spacing differences between MS Word and Open Office Writer cause a one >> page document to slop over to a second page. >> >> To overcome this problem I've downloaded and installed Microsoft's WordView >> to display .doc and .docx files using Wine. To convert them to .pdf >> files, I downloaded and installed cups-pdf so I can "print" .pdf files. >> >> "PDF" now appears as a printer in WordView running under Wine, but when I >> "print" to it, nothing shows up in Print Status. "PDF" also shows up in my >> other Windows apps and doesn't work either. >> >> To make sure the problem's not cups-pdf, I printed to "PDF" from kate. The >> job showed up in Print Status and created a .pdf file in /home/jerry/PDF. >> >> Anyone else got it working? Any ideas why it's not working here? > > I posted the above almost two months ago with no response. I wondered if > anyone else since then has tried it and got it to work. > > here's what happened here: i just installed cups-pdf to see how it functions for me, install went fine, but the PDF printer didnt show up. a restart of the CUPS daemon didn't fix this. so i opened the CUPS web interface, and manually added the printer, specified it's a virtual PDF printer, and when asked for the PPD, i gave it: /usr/share/ppd/cups-pdf/CUPS-PDF.ppd the printer showed up fine afterwards. i opened wine's notepad.exe, typed some gibberish, and printed to the PDF printer, no complaints, but the PDF didnt show up in my home directory, though the when looking at "completed jobs" in the web interface, i saw it. a little searching around, i came across /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf and noticed the default is to place the file in ~/PDF/ so i went there, and indeed the file was there, both wine and native programs are printing fine :S -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From errol at tzora.co.il Sun May 1 22:43:15 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 01:43:15 +0300 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: <4DBD0865.6020608@cfl.rr.com> References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> <4DBD0865.6020608@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <4DBDE203.3070209@tzora.co.il> On 05/01/2011 10:14 AM, Tom Bell wrote: > On 4/30/2011 11:12 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: >> I downloaded and installed Natty on my notepad as a fresh >> installation. I received a different desktop to the "standard" >> Kubuntu desktop. On trying to find out why and how to get the desktop >> I want I found out that what I had installed (without asking) was the >> Kubuntu notepad desktop. See the second photo at: >> http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ >> I have 2 questions. 1. What is the "grey area" below the panel which >> is at the top of the screen? 2.How can I get the "standard" Kubuntu >> desktop onto my notepad? >> I have looked in settings an cannot see a solution. >> Errol >> > I was looking for something else and chanced upon this. > System Settings -> Workspace -> Workspace Type: Desktop or Netbook. > I did not try it as I am happy with my desktop, however, you might > find something useful in it. > Good luck! > > Tom > Tom thanks for the answer. I did manage to change the appereance of my desktop applying your suggestion BUT the "grey " area as shown in the second photo at: http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ still shows. What is it and how do I get rid of it? Errol From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Mon May 2 09:32:46 2011 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 05:32:46 -0400 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: <4DBDE203.3070209@tzora.co.il> References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> <4DBD0865.6020608@cfl.rr.com> <4DBDE203.3070209@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4DBE7A3E.3060000@cfl.rr.com> On 5/1/2011 6:43 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: > > Tom thanks for the answer. > I did manage to change the appereance of my desktop applying your > suggestion BUT the "grey " area as shown in the second photo at: > http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ still shows. What is it and how do I > get rid of it? > Errol > > Sorry, I have no idea. If it is not the panel, a very large panel, then it is beyond me. I really don't know more than I told you earlier. Maybe someone else can answer that? Anyone else??? Tom -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD ("Who will protect us from the protectors?") From linux at appjaws.plus.com Mon May 2 13:09:28 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 14:09:28 +0100 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice Message-ID: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Hi Since upgrading to the latst kubuntu version I have various problems but a major one is not being able to save spreadsheets. I can open them, modify them but when I come to save changes libreoffice just crashes and clears the screen. I thought it might be a permissions problem byt other openoffice files work correctly. I am asked each time I onen a spreadsheet to recover from the last crash, if I do or don't it doesn't make any difference. I have 3 spreadsheets each with 13 pages and links to each other. Any experts know how to solve this? Thanks in anticipation Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Mon May 2 15:18:40 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:18:40 +0200 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <4DBECB50.3030800@gmail.com> On 2011-05-02 15:09, Paul Stear wrote: > Hi > Since upgrading to the latst kubuntu version I have various problems but a > major one is not being able to save spreadsheets. > I can open them, modify them but when I come to save changes libreoffice just > crashes and clears the screen. I thought it might be a permissions problem byt > other openoffice files work correctly. > I am asked each time I onen a spreadsheet to recover from the last crash, if I > do or don't it doesn't make any difference. > I have 3 spreadsheets each with 13 pages and links to each other. > > Any experts know how to solve this? > > Thanks in anticipation > Paul If I were in your place I'd first try renaming the hidden libreoffice folder inside your home folder. If that does not help then perhaps completely removing libreoffice and then reinstalling it would work. You could perhaps also check if you still have an old .openoffice.org folder left after the upgrade, rename/remove that as well if you have it. -- Isak *** Powered by Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com From linux at appjaws.plus.com Mon May 2 16:10:18 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:10:18 +0100 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <4DBECB50.3030800@gmail.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <4DBECB50.3030800@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105021710.18415.linux@appjaws.plus.com> On Monday 02 May 2011 16:18:40 Isak Enström wrote: > On 2011-05-02 15:09, Paul Stear wrote: > > Hi > > Since upgrading to the latst kubuntu version I have various problems but > > a major one is not being able to save spreadsheets. > > I can open them, modify them but when I come to save changes libreoffice > > just crashes and clears the screen. I thought it might be a permissions > > problem byt other openoffice files work correctly. > > I am asked each time I onen a spreadsheet to recover from the last crash, > > if I do or don't it doesn't make any difference. > > I have 3 spreadsheets each with 13 pages and links to each other. > > > > Any experts know how to solve this? > > > > Thanks in anticipation > > Paul > > If I were in your place I'd first try renaming the hidden libreoffice > folder inside your home folder. If that does not help then perhaps > completely removing libreoffice and then reinstalling it would work. You > could perhaps also check if you still have an old .openoffice.org folder > left after the upgrade, rename/remove that as well if you have it. Thanks for the reply, I have removed the hidden openoffice folder and renamed .libreoffice. I then uninstalled libreoffice and reinstalled. Opened one of the spreadsheets, made a change, went to save and the program just shutdown - same as before. I just don't know what to do next. regards Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Mon May 2 16:09:53 2011 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 19:09:53 +0300 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: <4DBDE203.3070209@tzora.co.il> References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> <4DBD0865.6020608@cfl.rr.com> <4DBDE203.3070209@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <4DBED751.2030106@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/02/2011 01:43 AM, Errol Sapir wrote: > > > On 05/01/2011 10:14 AM, Tom Bell wrote: >> On 4/30/2011 11:12 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: >>> I downloaded and installed Natty on my notepad as a fresh installation. I received a different >>> desktop to the "standard" Kubuntu desktop. On trying to find out why and how to get the >>> desktop I want I found out that what I had installed (without asking) was the Kubuntu notepad >>> desktop. See the second photo at: >>> http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ >>> I have 2 questions. 1. What is the "grey area" below the panel which is at the top of the >>> screen? 2.How can I get the "standard" Kubuntu desktop onto my notepad? >>> I have looked in settings an cannot see a solution. >>> Errol >>> >> I was looking for something else and chanced upon this. >> System Settings -> Workspace -> Workspace Type: Desktop or Netbook. >> I did not try it as I am happy with my desktop, however, you might >> find something useful in it. >> Good luck! >> >> Tom >> > Tom thanks for the answer. > I did manage to change the appereance of my desktop applying your suggestion BUT the "grey " area > as shown in the second photo at: http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ still shows. What is it and how > do I get rid of it? > Errol > > If you go to this page: http://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmanetbook/ And read some of the information it seems like the gray bar that you are referring to is the 'shortcut bar'. Nigel From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Mon May 2 16:15:40 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:15:40 +0200 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <201105021710.18415.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <4DBECB50.3030800@gmail.com> <201105021710.18415.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <4DBED8AC.1080608@gmail.com> On 2011-05-02 18:10, Paul Stear wrote: > Thanks for the reply, > I have removed the hidden openoffice folder and renamed .libreoffice. > I then uninstalled libreoffice and reinstalled. > Opened one of the spreadsheets, made a change, went to save and the program > just shutdown - same as before. > I just don't know what to do next. > regards > Paul Did you completely remove (purge) libreoffice or just a normal uninstall? The only other option I can think of at the moment is to create a new user and see if the problems persist. -- Isak *** Powered by Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com From linux at appjaws.plus.com Mon May 2 16:21:35 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:21:35 +0100 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <4DBED8AC.1080608@gmail.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201105021710.18415.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <4DBED8AC.1080608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105021721.35689.linux@appjaws.plus.com> On Monday 02 May 2011 17:15:40 Isak Enström wrote: > On 2011-05-02 18:10, Paul Stear wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, > > I have removed the hidden openoffice folder and renamed .libreoffice. > > I then uninstalled libreoffice and reinstalled. > > Opened one of the spreadsheets, made a change, went to save and the > > program just shutdown - same as before. > > I just don't know what to do next. > > regards > > Paul > > Did you completely remove (purge) libreoffice or just a normal > uninstall? The only other option I can think of at the moment is to > create a new user and see if the problems persist. Hi again, What do you mean by purge? I removed all of the entries that were installed using kpackagekit and when completed reinstalled the libreoffice suite. Should I have done something more? Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Mon May 2 16:31:16 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:31:16 +0200 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <201105021721.35689.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201105021710.18415.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <4DBED8AC.1080608@gmail.com> <201105021721.35689.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <4DBEDC54.5000108@gmail.com> On 2011-05-02 18:21, Paul Stear wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2011 17:15:40 Isak Enström wrote: >> On 2011-05-02 18:10, Paul Stear wrote: >>> Thanks for the reply, >>> I have removed the hidden openoffice folder and renamed .libreoffice. >>> I then uninstalled libreoffice and reinstalled. >>> Opened one of the spreadsheets, made a change, went to save and the >>> program just shutdown - same as before. >>> I just don't know what to do next. >>> regards >>> Paul >> >> Did you completely remove (purge) libreoffice or just a normal >> uninstall? The only other option I can think of at the moment is to >> create a new user and see if the problems persist. > Hi again, > What do you mean by purge? > I removed all of the entries that were installed using kpackagekit and when > completed reinstalled the libreoffice suite. > > Should I have done something more? > Paul I can't remember if it's possible to purge (completely remove, including config files) using Kpackagekit, when I was running Kubuntu I mostly used Synaptic. Maybe in some right click menu? Otherwise you have to use the terminal: sudo apt-get purge -- Isak *** Powered by Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon May 2 17:02:06 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:02:06 -0400 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <201105021302.06572.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday, May 02, 2011, Paul Stear wrote: > I have 3 spreadsheets each with 13 pages and links to each other. Can you save a simple spreadsheet in the same folder? (try a new one) If so, you may have uncovered a bug since your spreadsheets sound pretty complex. From linux at appjaws.plus.com Mon May 2 17:41:02 2011 From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:41:02 +0100 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <201105021302.06572.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201105021302.06572.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201105021841.02243.linux@appjaws.plus.com> On Monday 02 May 2011 18:02:06 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, May 02, 2011, Paul Stear wrote: > > I have 3 spreadsheets each with 13 pages and links to each other. > > Can you save a simple spreadsheet in the same folder? (try a new one) > > If so, you may have uncovered a bug since your spreadsheets sound pretty > complex. Yes I can create a new spreadsheet and save it, the problem seems to be with existing openoffice spreadsheets. Thanks for replying Paul -- This email has been sent using kmail on kubuntu From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon May 2 17:57:14 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:57:14 -0400 Subject: can not save openoffice spreadsheets in libreoffice In-Reply-To: <201105021841.02243.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201105021409.28578.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201105021302.06572.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201105021841.02243.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <201105021357.15135.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Monday, May 02, 2011, Paul Stear wrote: > Yes I can create a new spreadsheet and save it, the problem seems to be with > existing openoffice spreadsheets. > Thanks for replying Then I guess I would ditch libreoffice and install Openoffice. From errol at tzora.co.il Mon May 2 22:18:12 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 01:18:12 +0300 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: <4DBED751.2030106@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> <4DBD0865.6020608@cfl.rr.com> <4DBDE203.3070209@tzora.co.il> <4DBED751.2030106@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4DBF2DA4.2030303@tzora.co.il> On 05/02/2011 07:09 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 05/02/2011 01:43 AM, Errol Sapir wrote: >> >> >> On 05/01/2011 10:14 AM, Tom Bell wrote: >>> On 4/30/2011 11:12 PM, Errol Sapir wrote: >>>> I downloaded and installed Natty on my notepad as a fresh >>>> installation. I received a different >>>> desktop to the "standard" Kubuntu desktop. On trying to find out >>>> why and how to get the >>>> desktop I want I found out that what I had installed (without >>>> asking) was the Kubuntu notepad >>>> desktop. See the second photo at: >>>> http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ >>>> I have 2 questions. 1. What is the "grey area" below the panel >>>> which is at the top of the >>>> screen? 2.How can I get the "standard" Kubuntu desktop onto my >>>> notepad? >>>> I have looked in settings an cannot see a solution. >>>> Errol >>>> >>> I was looking for something else and chanced upon this. >>> System Settings -> Workspace -> Workspace Type: Desktop or Netbook. >>> I did not try it as I am happy with my desktop, however, you might >>> find something useful in it. >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Tom >>> >> Tom thanks for the answer. >> I did manage to change the appereance of my desktop applying your >> suggestion BUT the "grey " area >> as shown in the second photo at: http://www.kde.org/workspaces/ still >> shows. What is it and how >> do I get rid of it? >> Errol >> >> > > If you go to this page: > http://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmanetbook/ > > And read some of the information it seems like the gray bar that you > are referring to is the 'shortcut bar'. > > Nigel > Nigel I'm sure you're correct but 1. I don't see how to "use" it. I can't add widgets to it nor remove the 4 that are there. and 2. I can't see the difference between using this "shortcut bar" and having my widget or prgram on the panel. Seems to be too many features giving the same option. I do see how to get rid of the whole "shortcut bar, That is by right click on desktop -> configure search and launch -> and in view -> layout choose desktop instead of "search and launch". My questions above are now asked to enable me to understand how I could be using these featuresif I chose to. Basically Tom nad Nigel you pointed me in the direction to get my desktop how I wanted it i.e. without panel at the top and with a "standard" desktop. Thanks. It would be informative though if sombody could provide the answers to "controling" the shortcut bar. Always learning! Errol From magick.crow at gmail.com Tue May 3 05:55:54 2011 From: magick.crow at gmail.com (Knapp) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 07:55:54 +0200 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: <4DBF2DA4.2030303@tzora.co.il> References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> <4DBD0865.6020608@cfl.rr.com> <4DBDE203.3070209@tzora.co.il> <4DBED751.2030106@prayingforisrael.net> <4DBF2DA4.2030303@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: Unlock your widgets and then just right click on it. You should get menus to change it. You might need to click on each element to find the right thing to change. -- Douglas E Knapp Creative Commons Film Group, Helping people make open source movies with open source software! http://douglas.bespin.org/CommonsFilmGroup/phpBB3/index.php Massage in Gelsenkirchen-Buer: http://douglas.bespin.org/tcm/ztab1.htm Please link to me and trade links with me! Open Source Sci-Fi mmoRPG Game project. http://sf-journey-creations.wikispot.org/Front_Page http://code.google.com/p/perspectiveproject/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue May 3 06:34:08 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 02:34:08 -0400 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> <4DBF2DA4.2030303@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <201105030234.08594.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 01:55:54 AM Knapp wrote: > Unlock your widgets and then just right click on it. You should get menus > to change it. You might need to click on each element to find the right > thing to change. I think that Errol is talking about the gray space underneath the top bar, the area where the application icons appear in the Search and Launch activity. The Shortcut bar. Assuming that you have followed Tom's instructions to change from the Netbook setup to a Desktop setup, you may still need to change the actual Activity that you have from the Search and Launch to Desktop, or whichever you prefer. Right-click on the desktop somewhere, Then Desktop Settings. Then change the layout to Deskop. What probably happened is that the installer (erroneously) detected a monitor resolution that is used by netbooks, so it activated Netbook instead of Desktop. Clay From errol at tzora.co.il Tue May 3 08:49:56 2011 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Erol Sapir) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:49:56 +0300 Subject: change desktop In-Reply-To: <201105030234.08594.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <4DBCCF8D.6040002@tzora.co.il> <4DBF2DA4.2030303@tzora.co.il> <201105030234.08594.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4DBFC1B4.1000607@tzora.co.il> On 05/03/2011 09:34 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 01:55:54 AM Knapp wrote: >> Unlock your widgets and then just right click on it. You should get menus >> to change it. You might need to click on each element to find the right >> thing to change. > I think that Errol is talking about the gray space underneath the top bar, the > area where the application icons appear in the Search and Launch activity. The > Shortcut bar. > > Assuming that you have followed Tom's instructions to change from the > Netbook setup to a Desktop setup, you may still need to change the actual > Activity that you have from the Search and Launch to Desktop, or whichever you > prefer. > > Right-click on the desktop somewhere, Then Desktop Settings. Then change the > layout to Deskop. > > What probably happened is that the installer (erroneously) detected a monitor > resolution that is used by netbooks, so it activated Netbook instead of > Desktop. > > Clay Clay you are correct and that is what happened and that I have solved. My desktop is now the non-netbook one without the gry "shortcut bar". I thought that while we were on the subject of the shortcut bar somebody would explain how to use it as I didn't succeed in changing any of the 4 shortcuts that appeared originally. I couldn't add or remove shortcuts. Errol From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue May 3 08:58:21 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:58:21 +0300 Subject: Google calendar not synced Message-ID: <201105031158.21934.gkourtev@gmail.com> I've installed the google calendar through akonadi. When started PIM, in the calendar tab I see the entries from the google calendar. However, when I place a new entry in the PIM's calendar, the PIM is using the std.ics, instead to the akonadi resource. And vice-versus -- when I place an entry in google cal through web application, it does not ever show in the PIM calendar. Any ides? Thanks, gk From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue May 3 13:00:48 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 09:00:48 -0400 Subject: Google calendar not synced In-Reply-To: <201105031158.21934.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201105031158.21934.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105030900.48694.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 04:58:21 AM Georgi Kourtev wrote: > I've installed the google calendar through akonadi. When started PIM, in > the calendar tab I see the entries from the google calendar. However, > when I place a new entry in the PIM's calendar, the PIM is using the > std.ics, instead to the akonadi resource. > > And vice-versus -- when I place an entry in google cal through web > application, it does not ever show in the PIM calendar. > > Any ides? > > Thanks, > gk Have you added a google calendar to Kontact itelf? Not just the resource - you have to add new calendar - select Akonadi Resource, then a new dialog box comes up, which should show something like "akonadi_gcal-resource_xxx". select that, it may prompt for your google login info. More instructions here: http://thinkmoult.com/2011/02/21/syncing-kontact-with-android/ There is also a link to another method of syncing using caldav. And another dav how-to link: http://jpwhiting.blogspot.com/2011/04/kontact-with-google-calendar.html Clay From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue May 3 13:37:23 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 16:37:23 +0300 Subject: Wallet message Message-ID: <201105031637.23631.gkourtev@gmail.com> Hi all, From time to time I have the following message appearing from the KDE Wallet Service: "There have been repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An application may be misbehaving." The only two applications that use the wallet in my case are KMail and Network Manager (the standard KDE). Anyone esle to have this too? gk From info at alvin.be Tue May 3 13:49:41 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:49:41 +0200 Subject: Wallet message In-Reply-To: <201105031637.23631.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201105031637.23631.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105031549.42510.info@alvin.be> On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:37:23 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Hi all, > > From time to time I have the following message appearing from the KDE > Wallet Service: > > "There have been repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An > application may be misbehaving." > > The only two applications that use the wallet in my case are KMail and > Network Manager (the standard KDE). > > Anyone esle to have this too? Yes, it's this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/731835 From info at alvin.be Tue May 3 13:53:01 2011 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:53:01 +0200 Subject: saving multiscreen setup In-Reply-To: <201105011250.19321.linux@appjaws.plus.com> References: <201105011250.19321.linux@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <201105031553.02252.info@alvin.be> On Sunday 01 May 2011 13:50:19 Paul Stear wrote: > Hi all, > I have 2 monitors set up side by side using system settings, I have save > the settings as default but everytime I boot the 2 screens are just > mirrors, the desktop is not spread across both screens. > Any ideas? It depends on your videocard. If you can use open source drivers, or drivers that support xrandr well, use that and put the commands in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup [1] If that doesn't work (nvidia proprietary twinview for example), use the good 'ol xorg.conf to do it. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue May 3 13:55:48 2011 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 16:55:48 +0300 Subject: Google calendar not synced In-Reply-To: <201105030900.48694.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <201105031158.21934.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201105030900.48694.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201105031655.49299.gkourtev@gmail.com> > > Have you added a google calendar to Kontact itelf? Not just the resource - > you have to add new calendar - select Akonadi Resource, then a new dialog > box comes up, which should show something like > "akonadi_gcal-resource_xxx". select that, it may prompt for your google > login info. > > More instructions here: > http://thinkmoult.com/2011/02/21/syncing-kontact-with-android/ > There is also a link to another method of syncing using caldav. > And another dav how-to link: > http://jpwhiting.blogspot.com/2011/04/kontact-with-google-calendar.html > > > Clay I have in Calendars Akonadi Resource and under it -- akonadi_gcal-resource_6 and std.ics. From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue May 3 14:03:39 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:03:39 -0400 Subject: Google calendar not synced In-Reply-To: <201105031655.49299.gkourtev@gmail.com> References: <201105031158.21934.gkourtev@gmail.com> <201105030900.48694.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201105031655.49299.gkourtev@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105031003.39525.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 09:55:48 AM Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Have you added a google calendar to Kontact itelf? Not just the resource > > - you have to add new calendar - select Akonadi Resource, then a new > > dialog box comes up, which should show something like > > "akonadi_gcal-resource_xxx". select that, it may prompt for your google > > login info. > > > > More instructions here: > > http://thinkmoult.com/2011/02/21/syncing-kontact-with-android/ > > There is also a link to another method of syncing using caldav. > > And another dav how-to link: > > http://jpwhiting.blogspot.com/2011/04/kontact-with-google-calendar.html > > > > > > Clay > > I have in Calendars Akonadi Resource and under it -- > akonadi_gcal-resource_6 and std.ics. When I add an aevent to kontact, it asks me which calendar to use, and i select the google resource, and it syncs. clay From jprigot at verizon.net Tue May 3 16:04:52 2011 From: jprigot at verizon.net (Jonathan M. Prigot) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:04:52 -0400 Subject: rekonq mystery plugin In-Reply-To: <201105031553.02252.info@alvin.be> References: <201105011250.19321.linux@appjaws.plus.com> <201105031553.02252.info@alvin.be> Message-ID: <201105031204.52261.jprigot@verizon.net> I am trying to use the rekonq web browser. On occasion it is asking for a "text/html" plugin which it cannot find. Anyone know what's going on and how to resolve this? -- Jonathan M. Prigot 781-828-6606 From christer_wickman at telia.com Tue May 3 16:26:16 2011 From: christer_wickman at telia.com (Christer Wickman) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 18:26:16 +0200 Subject: Problem with KWin. Message-ID: <201105031826.16981.christer_wickman@telia.com> Hello Everybody I have some problem with something called KWin which seams to crash every time I start my computer. Is there anyway to get to work well again? I have KUbuntu 11.04 which was upgrade from KUbuntu 10.10. Yours Christer From nadreck at palain.com Tue May 3 20:04:00 2011 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin O'Brien) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 16:04:00 -0400 Subject: Menu bars all gone! Message-ID: I am having a very annoying problem. None of my applications display window bars any longer on my Kubuntu 64-bit Natty installation. The problem first showed up on a couple of applications about a month ago, and I hoped the upgrade to Natty would fix it. Instead the upgrade seems to have spread the problem to all application windows. Any idea how to fix this? Thank you, From temps.jo at gmail.com Tue May 3 21:28:22 2011 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (pierre jocelyn andre) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 23:28:22 +0200 Subject: Menu bars all gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *[Touche Alt]* *Alt + Tab* – Basculer entre les fenêtres ouvertes. *Alt + F1* – Active le focus clavier sur le Launcher. Utiliser les touches fléchées pour sélectionner l’application à lancer *Alt + F2* – Tableau de bord en mode spécial permettant d’exécuter des commandes. *Alt + F4* – Ferme l’application courante. *Alt + F7* – Déplace l’application courante (le clavier et la souris peuvent être utilisées). *Alt + F9* – Réduire l’application actuelle. *Alt + F10 *– Permet de basculer l’affichage d’une application entre le mode maximiser et normale. *[Touche Windows (touche super)]* *Windows* – Ouvre le Launcher. *Appui long + touches 1, 2, 3, … *– En combinant la touche Windows et le numéro associé l’application se lance. *Windows + A *– Ouvre le lanceur d’application. *Windows + D* – Réduit toutes les applications ouvertes. Refaire cette séquence fait réapparaître les applications. *Windows + F* – Ouvre les fichiers et dossiers à partir de la fenêtre du lanceur. *Windows + S* – Effectue un zoom arrière affichant tous les espaces de travail. Utiliser les touches fléchés pour sélectionner celui qui doit devenir actif. *Windows + T* – Ouvre la corbeille. *Windows + W* – Effectue un zoom arrière en affichant toutes les applications ouvertes dans tous les espaces de travail. Utiliser les touches fléchés pour sélectionner l’application qui doit devenir active. *[Touche Ctrl]* *Ctrl + Alt + T* – Ouvre une fenêtre Terminal. *Ctrl + Alt + L* – Verrouille l’écran. *Ctrl + Alt + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas* – Permet de naviguer entre les espaces de travail. *Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas* – Déplace une application vers un autre espace de travail. *[Autre]* ** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From temps.jo at gmail.com Tue May 3 21:31:38 2011 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (pierre jocelyn andre) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 23:31:38 +0200 Subject: Menu bars all gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For you *Alt + F10 * Le 3 mai 2011 23:28, pierre jocelyn andre a écrit : > > *[Touche Alt]* > > *Alt + Tab* – Basculer entre les fenêtres ouvertes. > > *Alt + F1* – Active le focus clavier sur le Launcher. Utiliser les touches > fléchées pour sélectionner l’application à lancer > > *Alt + F2* – Tableau de bord en mode spécial permettant d’exécuter des > commandes. > > *Alt + F4* – Ferme l’application courante. > > *Alt + F7* – Déplace l’application courante (le clavier et la souris > peuvent être utilisées). > > *Alt + F9* – Réduire l’application actuelle. > > *Alt + F10 *– Permet de basculer l’affichage d’une application entre le > mode maximiser et normale. > *[Touche Windows (touche super)]* > > *Windows* – Ouvre le Launcher. > > *Appui long + touches 1, 2, 3, … *– En combinant la touche Windows et le > numéro associé l’application se lance. > > *Windows + A *– Ouvre le lanceur d’application. > > *Windows + D* – Réduit toutes les applications ouvertes. Refaire cette > séquence fait réapparaître les applications. > > *Windows + F* – Ouvre les fichiers et dossiers à partir de la fenêtre du > lanceur. > > *Windows + S* – Effectue un zoom arrière affichant tous les espaces de > travail. Utiliser les touches fléchés pour sélectionner celui qui doit > devenir actif. > > *Windows + T* – Ouvre la corbeille. > > *Windows + W* – Effectue un zoom arrière en affichant toutes les > applications ouvertes dans tous les espaces de travail. Utiliser les touches > fléchés pour sélectionner l’application qui doit devenir active. > *[Touche Ctrl]* > > *Ctrl + Alt + T* – Ouvre une fenêtre Terminal. > > *Ctrl + Alt + L* – Verrouille l’écran. > > *Ctrl + Alt + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas* – Permet de naviguer entre les > espaces de travail. > > *Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas* – Déplace une > application vers un autre espace de travail. > *[Autre]* ** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nadreck at palain.com Wed May 4 02:49:19 2011 From: nadreck at palain.com (Kevin O'Brien) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 22:49:19 -0400 Subject: Menu bars all gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Alt + F10 does not appear to do anything at all for me. 2011/5/3 pierre jocelyn andre : > For you > > Alt + F10 > > Le 3 mai 2011 23:28, pierre jocelyn andre a écrit : >> >> [Touche Alt] >> >> Alt + Tab – Basculer entre les fenêtres ouvertes. >> >> Alt + F1 – Active le focus clavier sur le Launcher. Utiliser les touches >> fléchées pour sélectionner l’application à lancer >> >> Alt + F2 – Tableau de bord en mode spécial permettant d’exécuter des >> commandes. >> >> Alt + F4 – Ferme l’application courante. >> >> Alt + F7 – Déplace l’application courante (le clavier et la souris peuvent >> être utilisées). >> >> Alt + F9 – Réduire l’application actuelle. >> >> Alt + F10 – Permet de basculer l’affichage d’une application entre le mode >> maximiser et normale. >> >> [Touche Windows (touche super)] >> >> Windows – Ouvre le Launcher. >> >> Appui long + touches 1, 2, 3, … – En combinant la touche Windows et le >> numéro associé l’application se lance. >> >> Windows + A – Ouvre le lanceur d’application. >> >> Windows + D – Réduit toutes les applications ouvertes. Refaire cette >> séquence fait réapparaître les applications. >> >> Windows + F – Ouvre les fichiers et dossiers à partir de la fenêtre du >> lanceur. >> >> Windows + S – Effectue un zoom arrière affichant tous les espaces de >> travail. Utiliser les touches fléchés pour sélectionner celui qui doit >> devenir actif. >> >> Windows + T – Ouvre la corbeille. >> >> Windows + W – Effectue un zoom arrière en affichant toutes les >> applications ouvertes dans tous les espaces de travail. Utiliser les touches >> fléchés pour sélectionner l’application qui doit devenir active. >> >> [Touche Ctrl] >> >> Ctrl + Alt + T – Ouvre une fenêtre Terminal. >> >> Ctrl + Alt + L – Verrouille l’écran. >> >> Ctrl + Alt + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas – Permet de naviguer entre les >> espaces de travail. >> >> Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas – Déplace une >> application vers un autre espace de travail. >> >> [Autre] > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From azlannd at gmail.com Wed May 4 03:27:18 2011 From: azlannd at gmail.com (azlan mazlan) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:27:18 +0800 Subject: Menu bars all gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: been there..can't figure out why so re-install everything.. that solve my problem.. hehehe :) 2011/5/4 Kevin O'Brien > Alt + F10 does not appear to do anything at all for me. > > 2011/5/3 pierre jocelyn andre : > > For you > > > > Alt + F10 > > > > Le 3 mai 2011 23:28, pierre jocelyn andre a écrit : > >> > >> [Touche Alt] > >> > >> Alt + Tab – Basculer entre les fenêtres ouvertes. > >> > >> Alt + F1 – Active le focus clavier sur le Launcher. Utiliser les touches > >> fléchées pour sélectionner l’application à lancer > >> > >> Alt + F2 – Tableau de bord en mode spécial permettant d’exécuter des > >> commandes. > >> > >> Alt + F4 – Ferme l’application courante. > >> > >> Alt + F7 – Déplace l’application courante (le clavier et la souris > peuvent > >> être utilisées). > >> > >> Alt + F9 – Réduire l’application actuelle. > >> > >> Alt + F10 – Permet de basculer l’affichage d’une application entre le > mode > >> maximiser et normale. > >> > >> [Touche Windows (touche super)] > >> > >> Windows – Ouvre le Launcher. > >> > >> Appui long + touches 1, 2, 3, … – En combinant la touche Windows et le > >> numéro associé l’application se lance. > >> > >> Windows + A – Ouvre le lanceur d’application. > >> > >> Windows + D – Réduit toutes les applications ouvertes. Refaire cette > >> séquence fait réapparaître les applications. > >> > >> Windows + F – Ouvre les fichiers et dossiers à partir de la fenêtre du > >> lanceur. > >> > >> Windows + S – Effectue un zoom arrière affichant tous les espaces de > >> travail. Utiliser les touches fléchés pour sélectionner celui qui doit > >> devenir actif. > >> > >> Windows + T – Ouvre la corbeille. > >> > >> Windows + W – Effectue un zoom arrière en affichant toutes les > >> applications ouvertes dans tous les espaces de travail. Utiliser les > touches > >> fléchés pour sélectionner l’application qui doit devenir active. > >> > >> [Touche Ctrl] > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + T – Ouvre une fenêtre Terminal. > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + L – Verrouille l’écran. > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas – Permet de naviguer entre les > >> espaces de travail. > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas – Déplace une > >> application vers un autre espace de travail. > >> > >> [Autre] > > > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Wed May 4 07:10:23 2011 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:10:23 +0200 Subject: Menu bars all gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1304493023.2380.3.camel@pc> I got it often this kind of problem... Up to now couln't get it back :) But i think it has to do with compiz or effects. Sometimes I change desktop between unity and ubuntu classic and everything came back (but not always !). Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 11:27 +0800, azlan mazlan a écrit : > been there..can't figure out why so re-install everything.. > that solve my problem.. > hehehe > :) > > 2011/5/4 Kevin O'Brien > Alt + F10 does not appear to do anything at all for me. > > 2011/5/3 pierre jocelyn andre : > > > For you > > > > Alt + F10 > > > > Le 3 mai 2011 23:28, pierre jocelyn andre > a écrit : > >> > >> [Touche Alt] > >> > >> Alt + Tab – Basculer entre les fenêtres ouvertes. > >> > >> Alt + F1 – Active le focus clavier sur le Launcher. > Utiliser les touches > >> fléchées pour sélectionner l’application à lancer > >> > >> Alt + F2 – Tableau de bord en mode spécial permettant > d’exécuter des > >> commandes. > >> > >> Alt + F4 – Ferme l’application courante. > >> > >> Alt + F7 – Déplace l’application courante (le clavier et la > souris peuvent > >> être utilisées). > >> > >> Alt + F9 – Réduire l’application actuelle. > >> > >> Alt + F10 – Permet de basculer l’affichage d’une > application entre le mode > >> maximiser et normale. > >> > >> [Touche Windows (touche super)] > >> > >> Windows – Ouvre le Launcher. > >> > >> Appui long + touches 1, 2, 3, … – En combinant la touche > Windows et le > >> numéro associé l’application se lance. > >> > >> Windows + A – Ouvre le lanceur d’application. > >> > >> Windows + D – Réduit toutes les applications ouvertes. > Refaire cette > >> séquence fait réapparaître les applications. > >> > >> Windows + F – Ouvre les fichiers et dossiers à partir de la > fenêtre du > >> lanceur. > >> > >> Windows + S – Effectue un zoom arrière affichant tous les > espaces de > >> travail. Utiliser les touches fléchés pour sélectionner > celui qui doit > >> devenir actif. > >> > >> Windows + T – Ouvre la corbeille. > >> > >> Windows + W – Effectue un zoom arrière en affichant toutes > les > >> applications ouvertes dans tous les espaces de travail. > Utiliser les touches > >> fléchés pour sélectionner l’application qui doit devenir > active. > >> > >> [Touche Ctrl] > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + T – Ouvre une fenêtre Terminal. > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + L – Verrouille l’écran. > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas – Permet de > naviguer entre les > >> espaces de travail. > >> > >> Ctrl + Alt + Shift + Gauche / Droite / Haut / Bas – Déplace > une > >> application vers un autre espace de travail. > >> > >> [Autre] > > > > > > > -- > > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From temps.jo at gmail.com Wed May 4 09:01:31 2011 From: temps.jo at gmail.com (pierre jocelyn andre) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:01:31 +0200 Subject: Menu bars all gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ok, so repair broken packages do restart the computer in grub select "recovery mode" and repair broken packages I have one of twenty P.C. in is case then 10.10 to 11.04 Le 4 mai 2011 04:49, Kevin O'Brien a écrit : > Alt + F10 does not appear to do anything at all for me. > > 2011/5/3 pierre jocelyn andre : > > For you > > > > Alt + F10 > > > > Le 3 mai 2011 23:28, pierre jocelyn andre a écrit : > >> > >> [Touche Alt] > >> > >> Alt + Tab – Basculer entre les fenêtres ouvertes. > >> > >> Alt + F1 – Active le focus clavier sur le Launcher. Utiliser les touches > >> fléchées pour sélectionner l’application à lancer > >> > >> Alt + F2 – Tableau de bord en mode spécial permettant d’exécuter des > >> commandes. > >> > >> Alt + F4 – Ferme l’application courante. > >> > >> Alt + F7 – Déplace l’application courante (le clavier et la souris > peuvent > >> être utilisées). > >> > >> Alt + F9 – Réduire l’application actuelle. > >> > >> Alt + F10 – Permet de basculer l’affichage d’une application entre le > mode > >> maximiser et normale. > >> > >> [Touche Windows (touche super)] > >> > >> Windows – Ouvre le Launcher. > >> > >> Appui long + touches 1, 2, 3, … – En combinant la touche Windows et le > >> numéro associé l’application se lance. > >> > >> Windows + A – Ouvre le lanceur d’application. > >> > >> Windows + D – Réduit toutes les applications ouvertes. Refaire cette > >> séquence fait réapparaître les applications. > >> > >> Windows + F – Ouvre les fichiers et dossiers à partir de la fenêtre du > >> lanceur. > >> > >> Windows + S – Effectue un zoom arrière affichant tous les espaces de > >> travail. Utiliser les touches fléchés pour sélectionner celui qui doit > >> devenir actif. > >> > >> Windows + T – Ouvre la corbeille. > >> > >> Windows + W – Effectue un zoom arrière en affichant toutes les > >> applications ouvertes dans tous les espaces de travail. 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From varun.bedwal at gmail.com Wed May 4 14:08:30 2011 From: varun.bedwal at gmail.com (Varun Bedwal) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:38:30 +0530 Subject: HI In-Reply-To: <4DC14865.5020609@googlemail.com> References: <4DC14865.5020609@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Thanks But now i m having dependencies problem what to do? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bqz69 at telia.com Wed May 4 15:10:05 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: HI References: Message-ID: On Wed, 04 May 2011 17:35:55 +0530, Varun Bedwal wrote: > Hi! > I desperately want to try linux but I dont have a slightest idea of > linux. I m advanced window user. > http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ Here you can download a ubuntu 11.04 natty iso image. Burn this into a live cd. Then boot your pc with this live cd and try linux (do not install at this stage). From varun.bedwal at gmail.com Wed May 4 15:22:23 2011 From: varun.bedwal at gmail.com (Varun Bedwal) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:52:23 +0530 Subject: HI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > i m having dependencies problemI. Do you have a chat forum > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed May 4 15:43:54 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:43:54 +0200 Subject: HI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105041743.54886.kassube@gmx.net> Varun Bedwal wrote: > i m having dependencies problemI. Do you have a chat forum If by chat forum you mean IRC, then look here: Or if you mean a web forum, that would be Nils From tv.debian at googlemail.com Wed May 4 15:54:09 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 17:54:09 +0200 Subject: HI In-Reply-To: References: <4DC14865.5020609@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DC176A1.4030008@googlemail.com> 04/05/2011 16:08, Varun Bedwal wrote: > > > Thanks > But now i m having dependencies problem > what to do? > What dependency problem do you have exactly ? b43-fwcutter only requires libc6 which should already be installed anyway. See http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/b43-fwcutter Which version are you using ? The link is for the latest "Natty" 11.04 version but maybe you are using an earlier one ? This wifi card requires a firmware to work, it is downloaded at install time by b43-fwcutter, but this won't happen if you don't have an Internet connexion. So you just need to get the firmware separately, given your card the firmware you need should be located here: http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.178.10.4.tar.bz2 The firmware should be extracted from the downloaded archive and copied in directory /lib/firmware/. If you have an error message when the firmware is loaded, you can try this older one: http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.3.tar.bz2 For detailed instruction WITHOUT an Internet connection read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access If the "bcm43" solution doesn't work, you can try an alternate driver "STA", you'll find instructions there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA%20-%20No%20Internet%20access Try one, then the other if the first doesn't work, but don't mix both or you'll end up in a mess ! If you encounter difficulties, please be specific and try to post error messages, or link to the "step" in tutorial which is causing you trouble. From gilgib1 at verizon.net Wed May 4 17:33:25 2011 From: gilgib1 at verizon.net (Gil Gibbons) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 13:33:25 -0400 Subject: HI In-Reply-To: <201105041743.54886.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201105041743.54886.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4DC18DE5.4030504@verizon.net> On 05/04/2011 11:43 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Varun Bedwal wrote: >> i m having dependencies problemI. Do you have a chat forum > If by chat forum you mean IRC, then look here: > > > > > Or if you mean a web forum, that would be > > > > > Nils > You can also try kubuntuforums.net From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Thu May 5 03:02:39 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 06:02:39 +0300 Subject: Menu bars all gone! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC2134F.5090302@whamra.com> On 05/03/2011 11:04 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: > I am having a very annoying problem. None of my applications display > window bars any longer on my Kubuntu 64-bit Natty installation. The > problem first showed up on a couple of applications about a month ago, > and I hoped the upgrade to Natty would fix it. Instead the upgrade > seems to have spread the problem to all application windows. Any idea > how to fix this? > > Thank you, > menu bars are drawn by kwin. if you're using compiz or any such eye candy software, it's that program the culprit. so for a start, are you using compiz or any other window manager? does this happen with effects enabled and disabled? or just with one? what's your graphic card, and are you sure it's installed properly? there are many reasons why would kwin crash, it's not unheard of, but all the time is a problem. -- Waleed K. 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And this list has been so quiet, I'm wondering if they are having big problems in the network department...... From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu May 5 14:35:22 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:35:22 -0400 Subject: Can't read audio CD's on 11.04 Natty Message-ID: <201105051035.22622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> I have an AMD64 machine that worked fine for audio cd's under 10.10. I also have a i386 (32bit) machine running natty and it also doesn't work with audio cd's. Both machines worked fine under 10.10 so I believe this must be a problem with natty. And, in googling for a solution, it seems that most releases of Ubuntu have caused audio CD problems in the past but I didn't find any solutions. Anyone else having problems with audio cd's on natty? From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 5 14:47:44 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (pkaplan1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Anyone having problems getting to the repositories?? In-Reply-To: <1564470940.2274736.1304606815098.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <746600355.2274833.1304606864704.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> No problem here. Can you select a different repo location? Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Marshall" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 10:24:54 AM Subject: Anyone having problems getting to the repositories?? Keeps hanging up on the connection as though the servers aren't responding. And this list has been so quiet, I'm wondering if they are having big problems in the network department...... -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jonpiper at cox.net Fri May 6 11:58:52 2011 From: jonpiper at cox.net (Jon Piper) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 07:58:52 -0400 Subject: Can't read audio CD's on 11.04 Natty In-Reply-To: <4DC31231.3090200@cox.net> References: <201105051035.22622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <4DC31231.3090200@cox.net> Message-ID: <4DC3E27C.6000201@cox.net> On 05/05/2011 05:10 PM, Jon Piper wrote: > Blessings all, > No problems here Natty 64 bit (Intel). Plays CD's & DVD's using VLC > and burns CD's & DVD's using K3B. > > The only problem with Natty has been no images on some websites e.g. > Netfliks, and pages accessed from a link. I assume it is flash > problem; I love Natty- runs smooth as silk! > > Have fun! > > Jon Piper > ****************** > > On 05/05/2011 10:35 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: >> I have an AMD64 machine that worked fine for audio cd's under 10.10. >> I also >> have a i386 (32bit) machine running natty and it also doesn't work >> with audio >> cd's. >> >> Both machines worked fine under 10.10 so I believe this must be a >> problem >> with natty. And, in googling for a solution, it seems that most >> releases of >> Ubuntu have caused audio CD problems in the past but I didn't find any >> solutions. >> >> Anyone else having problems with audio cd's on natty? >> From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Fri May 6 13:30:49 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:30:49 -0400 Subject: Can't read audio CD's on 11.04 Natty In-Reply-To: <4DC3E27C.6000201@cox.net> References: <201105051035.22622.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <4DC31231.3090200@cox.net> <4DC3E27C.6000201@cox.net> Message-ID: <201105060930.49782.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Friday, May 06, 2011, Jon Piper wrote: > On 05/05/2011 05:10 PM, Jon Piper wrote: > > Blessings all, > > No problems here Natty 64 bit (Intel). Plays CD's & DVD's using VLC > > and burns CD's & DVD's using K3B. > > > > The only problem with Natty has been no images on some websites e.g. > > Netfliks, and pages accessed from a link. I assume it is flash > > problem; I love Natty- runs smooth as silk! > > What you say is true..... but other programs such as ripperx do not recognize audio cd's.... and they should and they did so in 10.10. From bqz69 at telia.com Fri May 6 16:47:50 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: dolphin not show content of folder when opened as ordinary user in ubuntu 11.04 Message-ID: I have installed ubuntu alternate 11.04 When I open dolphin as ordinary user I do not see the content of the folder and I get following message: ****The name org.kde.klauncher was not provided by any .service files When I open dolphin as su dolphin does show content of folder and I do not get above message? From kassube at gmx.net Fri May 6 20:11:56 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:11:56 +0200 Subject: dolphin not show content of folder when opened as ordinary user in ubuntu 11.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105062211.56903.kassube@gmx.net> user1 wrote: > When I open dolphin as ordinary user I do not see the content of the > folder and I get following message: > > ****The name org.kde.klauncher was not provided by any .service files > > When I open dolphin as su dolphin does show content of folder and I > do not get above message? I'm not sure, but to me it looks like some file in your home directory is owned by root. If this is correct, you can correct the issue with the command sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME in a terminal (konsole). That should make you owner again of all files in your home directory and any subdirectories. Such a problem might be caused by commands like the one you mentioned above (su dolphin). For GUI programs you should use the command kdesudo instead of sudo or su, i.e. in your example it would be "kdesudo dolphin". Otherwise the ownership of some files in your home directory may change from your own login to root. Nils From bqz69 at telia.com Sat May 7 02:48:36 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 02:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: dolphin not show content of folder when opened as ordinary user in ubuntu 11.04 References: <201105062211.56903.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: > sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME > > in a terminal (konsole). That should make you owner again of all files > in your home directory and any subdirectories. > > Such a problem might be caused by commands like the one you mentioned The problem is also there When I try to open the "/" folder ? From rjlapham at gmail.com Sat May 7 04:18:15 2011 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 00:18:15 -0400 Subject: 1. Grsynch errors (Jerry Lapham) (Jerry Lapham) In-Reply-To: <201104221300.18470.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <4DB19560.4080709@btinternet.com> <201104221300.18470.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105070018.15861.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Friday, April 22, 2011 01:00:18 pm Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Friday, April 22, 2011 10:49:04 am Brian Wootton wrote: > > On 22/04/11 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > > On Monday, April 18, 2011 09:06:53 am Brian Wootton wrote: > > >> > On 18/04/11 13:00,kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > >>> > > I have a 160GB USB drive called SEA_DISK for backups using > > >>> > > Grsynch. The last week or two I've been getting the following > > >>> > > errors - I think - on every file needing to be changed: > > >>> > > > > >>> > > rsync: mkstemp "/media/SEA_DISK/dataDocs2/nle/MW26/.wALK > > >>> > > 26.xls.1uKVFl" failed: Read-only file system (30) > > >>> > > > > >>> > > and > > >>> > > > > >>> > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see > > >>> > > previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7] > > >>> > > Rsync process exit status: 23 > > >>> > > > > >>> > > After running Grsynch I can't write to SEA_DISK using Dolphin > > >>> > > until I turn off the drive and turn it back on. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > About the same I time, I think, Safely remove 'SEA_DISK' on the > > >>> > > Dolphin drop- down also quit working. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but the same thing happened when I > > >>> > > tried 10.04. > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Any ideas? > > >>> > > > > >>> > > -Jerry > > >> > > > >> > for a start: > > >> > on the command line type: > > >> > mount to get the device mount point for your SEA_DISK > > >> > umount/dev/"SEA_DISK" > > >> > fsck /dev/sdb1 (substitute whatever mount returned for your USB > > >> > disc) this should put right any errors on the disk. you may have to > > >> > put in some flags(man fsck) to get exactly what you want. This > > >> > should tell you if you have a flaky drive or not. If you're happy > > >> > with the disc then don't forget to 'mount /dev/whatever' . You may > > >> > or may not need to 'sudo' this lot ,depends on whether it was > > >> > mounted by root at boot up or automounter. brian > > > > > > The disk seems to be OK. I have no trouble copying files and folders > > > to it after I turn it on. But I can't write to it after having run > > > grsync or rsync. They seem to be what's making it read-only. > > > > > > -Jerry > > > > Can't help you there, I took a look at the man page for grsynch some time > > ago and decided there was too much for my ancient brain to absorb so > > I stayed with the mount daemon and remote access to it - seemed to work > > OK for me. Now I've only the one kubuntu machine I can't even try it out > > for you. I seem to remember a -n option where it tells you what it would > > do but doesn't actually do anything. Are you running the sync daemon > > as root or as yourself? Has root only got write permission, or no-one at > > all? how do you recover your permissions on the SEA_DISK after the > > rsync run > > brian > > I've been running grsync and rsync as myself. I just tried running rsync > as root with the same result. Before running it, I could write to > SEA_DISK. Afterwards I can't write to it even as root. It appears that > rsync is what is making SEA_DISK read-only. I make SEA_DISK writable > again by powering it off and then restarting it. > > -Jerry To make sure it wasn't SEA_DISK, the external USB hard disk, I tried backing up to a 4GB USB stick. It worked maybe 3 or 4 times, then it started acting the same as with SEA_DISK -- it makes it read-only. The problem must be grsync/rsync. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From rrumberger at web.de Sat May 7 04:35:32 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 06:35:32 +0200 Subject: dolphin not show content of folder when opened as ordinary user in ubuntu 11.04 In-Reply-To: References: <201105062211.56903.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201105070635.33878.rrumberger@web.de> On Samstag 07 Mai 2011, 04:48:36, user1 wrote: > > sudo chown -R $USER: $HOME > > > > in a terminal (konsole). That should make you owner again of all files > > in your home directory and any subdirectories. > > > > Such a problem might be caused by commands like the one you mentioned > > The problem is also there When I try to open the "/" folder ? The folder you visit doesn't really matter, the point is that some config file is now likely owned by root and as such dolphin can't access it anymore. Basically dolphin now just doesn'T know what to do with directories anymore so it defaults to doing nothing. The command Nils posted is pretty safe, you can't do any real damage with it. Just execute it and see whether the problem vanishes. --Reinhold From Brian.Meg at btinternet.com Sat May 7 14:50:28 2011 From: Brian.Meg at btinternet.com (Brian Wootton) Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 15:50:28 +0100 Subject: 1. Grsynch errors (Jerry Lapham) (Jerry Lapham) (Jerry Lapham) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC55C34.8020106@btinternet.com> On 07/05/11 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > > On Friday, April 22, 2011 01:00:18 pm Jerry Lapham wrote: > >> > On Friday, April 22, 2011 10:49:04 am Brian Wootton wrote: >>> > > On 22/04/11 13:00,kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >>>> > > > On Monday, April 18, 2011 09:06:53 am Brian Wootton wrote: >>>>>> > > >> > On 18/04/11 13:00,kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: >>>>>>> > > >>> > > I have a 160GB USB drive called SEA_DISK for backups using >>>>>>> > > >>> > > Grsynch. The last week or two I've been getting the following >>>>>>> > > >>> > > errors - I think - on every file needing to be changed: >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > rsync: mkstemp "/media/SEA_DISK/dataDocs2/nle/MW26/.wALK >>>>>>> > > >>> > > 26.xls.1uKVFl" failed: Read-only file system (30) >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > and >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see >>>>>>> > > >>> > > previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1060) [sender=3.0.7] >>>>>>> > > >>> > > Rsync process exit status: 23 >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > After running Grsynch I can't write to SEA_DISK using Dolphin >>>>>>> > > >>> > > until I turn off the drive and turn it back on. >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > About the same I time, I think, Safely remove 'SEA_DISK' on the >>>>>>> > > >>> > > Dolphin drop- down also quit working. >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > I'm running Kubuntu 10.10 but the same thing happened when I >>>>>>> > > >>> > > tried 10.04. >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > Any ideas? >>>>>>> > > >>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>> > > -Jerry >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > for a start: >>>>>> > > >> > on the command line type: >>>>>> > > >> > mount to get the device mount point for your SEA_DISK >>>>>> > > >> > umount/dev/"SEA_DISK" >>>>>> > > >> > fsck /dev/sdb1 (substitute whatever mount returned for your USB >>>>>> > > >> > disc) this should put right any errors on the disk. you may have to >>>>>> > > >> > put in some flags(man fsck) to get exactly what you want. This >>>>>> > > >> > should tell you if you have a flaky drive or not. If you're happy >>>>>> > > >> > with the disc then don't forget to 'mount /dev/whatever' . You may >>>>>> > > >> > or may not need to 'sudo' this lot ,depends on whether it was >>>>>> > > >> > mounted by root at boot up or automounter. brian >>>> > > > >>>> > > > The disk seems to be OK. I have no trouble copying files and folders >>>> > > > to it after I turn it on. But I can't write to it after having run >>>> > > > grsync or rsync. They seem to be what's making it read-only. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > -Jerry >>> > > >>> > > Can't help you there, I took a look at the man page for grsynch some time >>> > > ago and decided there was too much for my ancient brain to absorb so >>> > > I stayed with the mount daemon and remote access to it - seemed to work >>> > > OK for me. Now I've only the one kubuntu machine I can't even try it out >>> > > for you. I seem to remember a -n option where it tells you what it would >>> > > do but doesn't actually do anything. Are you running the sync daemon >>> > > as root or as yourself? Has root only got write permission, or no-one at >>> > > all? how do you recover your permissions on the SEA_DISK after the >>> > > rsync run >>> > > brian >> > >> > I've been running grsync and rsync as myself. I just tried running rsync >> > as root with the same result. Before running it, I could write to >> > SEA_DISK. Afterwards I can't write to it even as root. It appears that >> > rsync is what is making SEA_DISK read-only. I make SEA_DISK writable >> > again by powering it off and then restarting it. >> > >> > -Jerry > To make sure it wasn't SEA_DISK, the external USB hard disk, I tried backing > up to a 4GB USB stick. It worked maybe 3 or 4 times, then it started acting > the same as with SEA_DISK -- it makes it read-only. The problem must be > grsync/rsync. > > > > When I had a 2nd linux machine I used to use rcp/scp, might be worth a look. > Now when copying files to/from a win7 machine I use dolphin>network and click > on 'add network folder',I just have to fight win7 to get the share set-up going, > then use drag&drop. I'm sure this would work for linux just as well with a little fiddling with exportfs maybe. If you can get this to work for you, might be worth you putting in a bug report against rsync. brian > , I jut > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From actlka_slv at yahoo.com Sun May 8 12:40:32 2011 From: actlka_slv at yahoo.com (Payern Yen) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 05:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <722054.80761.qm@web161501.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> http://www.weddingpartytips.com/wp-content/themes/default/myblog.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Initially, I have broadcom net adapter so I have to connect first with wired network then install b43.... then I can connect to wireless, but during connecting through wired net I have to make DSL connection then copy mac address from wired connection to DSL and then only I could connect to internet. But in Kubuntu there is no area in DSL connection for mac address and therefore I m unable to connect Internet..Please help -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From faptagon at gmail.com Tue May 10 19:05:55 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:05:55 -0700 Subject: Panel Woes Message-ID: From faptagon at gmail.com Tue May 10 19:15:34 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:15:34 -0700 Subject: Panel Woes..... Message-ID: Howdy folks; I was playing with something called, "wally", which supposedly lets you use whatever pics you want for your wallpaper. I'm running lucid, and it doesn't seem to have that option on it's own. Anyway, the README file said to log out and then back in, and look for it's plugin in settings/appearance, but it not only wasn't there, the KDE panel at the bottom of the screen is gone, too. Does anyone know how to get it back short of re-installing the whole shebang? Thanks. Bill From kaj at haulrich.net Tue May 10 20:40:41 2011 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 22:40:41 +0200 Subject: Panel Woes..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105102240.42217.kaj@haulrich.net> On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 09:15:34 PM Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > I was playing with something called, "wally", which supposedly lets you use > whatever pics you want for your wallpaper. I'm running lucid, and it > doesn't seem > to have that option on it's own. Anyway, the README file said to log out > and then back in, and look for it's plugin in settings/appearance, but it > not only wasn't there, the KDE panel at the bottom of the screen is gone, > too. > > Does anyone know how to get it back short of re-installing the whole > shebang? At least you could right-click the background, unlock widgets, then rigth- click again and add panels - including the default one. Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 11.04 --------- From actlka_slv at yahoo.com Tue May 10 19:37:49 2011 From: actlka_slv at yahoo.com (actlka_slv at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 19:37:49 Subject: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 05866d0e8a37bf1160699c54567657e9@[192.168.1.1] kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com http://g.msn.com.br/BR9/1369.0?http://nbcnewset.com for anyone who tries this income can be made From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 11 03:17:52 2011 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 23:17:52 -0400 Subject: unity desktop how do I find Message-ID: I am having problems finding things in the new desktop. I could not find konsole (whats up with that?) and then discovered I had to download it so I did and now I can not find it. I looked for symantik and it is supposedly installed but I can not find the interface. Would some one direct me to documentation on this or tell me how to find Konsole and a recognizable symantik? I really would like to add the mediabuntu repository etc. Is there anyway I can get back the old desktop? From gldvorak at gmail.com Wed May 11 04:37:36 2011 From: gldvorak at gmail.com (George Dvorak) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:37:36 -0700 Subject: Fwd: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com In-Reply-To: <05866d0e8a37bf1160699c54567657e9@192.168.1.1> References: <05866d0e8a37bf1160699c54567657e9@192.168.1.1> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:37 PM Subject: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com http://g.msn.com.br/BR9/1369.0?http://nbcnewset.com for anyone who tries this income can be made -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I could not > find konsole (whats up with that?) and then discovered I had to > download it so I did and now I can not find it. I looked for symantik > and it is supposedly installed but I can not find the interface. > > Would some one direct me to documentation on this or tell me how to > find Konsole and a recognizable symantik? I really would like to add > the mediabuntu repository etc. > > Is there anyway I can get back the old desktop? > Since Konsole is a KDE application it would not be installed when using Unity (Ubuntu). As for where it is I can't answer since I'm not running Ubuntu 11.04 but try pressing the Windows key to show the menu and do a search for Konsole. Similarly you could do a search for Synaptic (I assume that's what you're looking for?) Instructions for adding the Medibuntu repo should be available both at www.medibuntu.org and at help.ubuntu.com -- Isak ~~~ Powered by CrunchBang Linux http://crunchbanglinux.org/ From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Wed May 11 06:37:29 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 07:37:29 +0100 Subject: Kontact birthdays In-Reply-To: <201105111712.10323.john@batistic.net.nz> References: <201105111712.10323.john@batistic.net.nz> Message-ID: <201105110737.30026.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Wednesday 11 May 2011 06:12:10 John Batistic wrote: > Several niggles since updating to Kubuntu 11.04. > > Biggest is the loss of birthdays and anniversaries from Kontact summary. > It displays headers for Upcoming Events, New Messages, Pending To-dos and > Popup Notes, but not birthdays. > > Can anybody help? I can't really help, but I can tell you why it isn't working any more. It is now disabled by default - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265910 -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From dave at thefletchers.net Wed May 11 07:23:55 2011 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 08:23:55 +0100 Subject: Kontact birthdays In-Reply-To: <201105111712.10323.john@batistic.net.nz> References: <201105111712.10323.john@batistic.net.nz> Message-ID: <1305098635.3740.15.camel@dave-Satellite-2410> On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 17:12 +1200, John Batistic wrote: > Biggest is the loss of birthdays and anniversaries from Kontact > summary. > > It displays headers for Upcoming Events, New Messages, Pending To-dos > and Popup Notes, but not birthdays. I've never had any confidence with features like this. Back when I was running 98 I think, I wrote my own which popped up on the screen at login. Now, it runs on my server every night and sends out reminders by email which I think is the best solution because I get my reminders no matter which machine I use to log in to my imap server. Dave From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed May 11 10:23:06 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 03:23:06 -0700 Subject: Panel Woes..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > I was playing with something called, "wally", which supposedly lets you use > whatever pics you want for your wallpaper.  I'm running lucid, and it > doesn't seem > to have that option on it's own. I don't remember exactly where in systemsettings it is in Lucid, but it certainly is built-in, and you don't need an extra package. Get to Screen appearance or something, and screensaver, and just choose the folder you want, how you want them to be sized and displayed, and how long you want each photo to be displayed. I created a folder called Desktop Pics inside My Photos so it would be easy to navigate to. Dig around in systemsettings a bit, and you'll find it. In Natty it is in Hardware > Display and Monitors > Screen Saver. You might be able to right-click on your Desktop and do it there, also. Valorie -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Wed May 11 13:46:12 2011 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 09:46:12 -0400 Subject: unity desktop how do I find In-Reply-To: <4DCA2E4A.5030801@gmail.com> References: <4DCA2E4A.5030801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DCA9324.2080701@cfl.rr.com> On 5/11/2011 2:35 AM, Isak Enström wrote: > On 11/05/11 05:17, uriah heep wrote: >> I am having problems finding things in the new desktop. I could not >> find konsole (whats up with that?) and then discovered I had to >> download it so I did and now I can not find it. I looked for symantik >> and it is supposedly installed but I can not find the interface. >> >> Would some one direct me to documentation on this or tell me how to >> find Konsole and a recognizable symantik? I really would like to add >> the mediabuntu repository etc. >> >> Is there anyway I can get back the old desktop? >> > Since Konsole is a KDE application it would not be installed when > using Unity (Ubuntu). As for where it is I can't answer since I'm not > running Ubuntu 11.04 but try pressing the Windows key to show the menu > and do a search for Konsole. Similarly you could do a search for > Synaptic (I assume that's what you're looking for?) > > Instructions for adding the Medibuntu repo should be available both at > www.medibuntu.org and at help.ubuntu.com > KMenu -> Applications -> System -> "Terminal - Konsole". Tom -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD ("Who will protect us from the protectors?") From mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it Wed May 11 14:05:47 2011 From: mirtosilvio.busico at fastwebnet.it (Mirto Silvio Busico) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:05:47 +0200 Subject: natty host - lucid KVM guest doesn't boot Message-ID: <4DCA97BB.2000105@fastwebnet.it> Hi all, I have a Kubuntu Natty amd64 with qemu-kvm as host and I'm using virt-manager. If I create a Natty amd64 guest all works fine. If I create a Lucid amd64 guest the installation seems completed correctly, but the VM doesn't start stating that there is no bootable device. Anyone experienced this problem? Any suggestion? Thanks Mirto -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You'll need to do that for each, "/*", step out to around ,"/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*", just stop when you get a, "no such file or directory", error, and then log back in as yourself, and you're, "home", free. So, the cure then is to create a bogus user, (if you don't have sonething you can allready use as one), do all your usual system setups for the bogus one, and you're done. One each, emergency backup for your kde system. Later, bye; Bill From montys at videopost.com Wed May 11 15:58:12 2011 From: montys at videopost.com (Monty Shinn) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:58:12 -0500 Subject: Panel Woes Solved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DCAB214.6040509@videopost.com> On 05/11/2011 10:39 AM, Bill vance wrote: > Howdy again folks; > > I found a solution that you might want to implement for insurance. > > I have a multi user setup, but the users are all email aliases for the > various lists > I'm subbscribed to. That's also my reason for wanting to be root, (ease of > switching from one to another). I virtuially never log on as one of > these, as doing so is a cumbersome, and time wasting procedure. > > Anyway the way I solved my disapearing kde setup, was to log on as one of my > aliases, and lo, there it was a pristine setup. So I used the > reviled, "sudo", to > copy the, ".kde", directory and a few other things over to my usual /home/self, > and the rest was a relatively simple matter of, "chown self > /home/self/.kde/*", and,"chgrp self /home/self/.kde/*". You'll need > to do that for each, "/*", step > out to around ,"/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*", just stop when you get a, "no such file or > directory", error, and then log back in as yourself, and you're, "home", free. > > So, the cure then is to create a bogus user, (if you don't have sonething you > can allready use as one), do all your usual system setups for the bogus one, > and you're done. One each, emergency backup for your kde system. > > Later, bye; > > Bill > Perhaps a better option would be to use the chown -R and chgrp -R to do all the changes recursively, if I am understanding what you are doing. I appreciate the info. I think I'm going to make a copy of my .kde directory for safe keeping... Monty From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed May 11 21:50:06 2011 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (uriah heep) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:50:06 -0400 Subject: unity desktop how do I find In-Reply-To: <4DCA9324.2080701@cfl.rr.com> References: <4DCA2E4A.5030801@gmail.com> <4DCA9324.2080701@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Tom Bell wrote: > On 5/11/2011 2:35 AM, Isak Enström wrote: > >> On 11/05/11 05:17, uriah heep wrote: >> >>> I am having problems finding things in the new desktop. I could not >>> find konsole (whats up with that?) and then discovered I had to >>> download it so I did and now I can not find it. I looked for symantik >>> and it is supposedly installed but I can not find the interface. >>> >>> Would some one direct me to documentation on this or tell me how to >>> find Konsole and a recognizable symantik? I really would like to add >>> the mediabuntu repository etc. >>> >>> Is there anyway I can get back the old desktop? >>> >>> Since Konsole is a KDE application it would not be installed when using >> Unity (Ubuntu). As for where it is I can't answer since I'm not running >> Ubuntu 11.04 but try pressing the Windows key to show the menu and do a >> search for Konsole. Similarly you could do a search for Synaptic (I assume >> that's what you're looking for?) >> >> Instructions for adding the Medibuntu repo should be available both at >> www.medibuntu.org and at help.ubuntu.com >> >> KMenu -> Applications -> System -> "Terminal - Konsole". > > Tom > > -- > Seems that I was using my winter IQ and downloaded Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu. 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As for where it is I can't answer since I'm not running >>> Ubuntu 11.04 but try pressing the Windows key to show the menu and do a >>> search for Konsole. Similarly you could do a search for Synaptic (I assume >>> that's what you're looking for?) >>> >>> Instructions for adding the Medibuntu repo should be available both at >>> www.medibuntu.org and at help.ubuntu.com >>> >> KMenu -> Applications -> System -> "Terminal - Konsole". >> >> Tom >> >> -- > > Seems that I was using my winter IQ and downloaded Ubuntu rather than > Kubuntu. Now downloading Kubuntu my apology for wasting bandwith. just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and you should have Kubuntu installed, too. Now you can play with both. Pick which one you want when you log in. Michael From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu May 12 04:41:47 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:41:47 -0600 Subject: natty: no KDE desktop Message-ID: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> I just upgraded my main machine (64-bit) from maverick to natty. There were no errors in the upgrade. Now when I log in all I get is a completely black screen, along with a visible mouse cursor and a couple of buddy-list windows (for gaim and skype). There is no background, none of my widgets, no panel, and clicking any mouse buttons on the the black desktop background does nothing at all. Minimizing the buddy-list windows causes them to disappear. Maximizing them causes them to occupy the entire screen (not just the part of the screen they would have occupied had there been a visible panel). I've tried renaming ~/.kde and ~/.kderc, but that had no effect. What can I do to get a functioning desktop? (Preferably something close to the one I had in maverick, but right now after spending several hours and getting nowhere, just a regular ol' default KDE desktop would be great progress.) I'm writing this from xfce, since at least that works. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Thu May 12 08:14:13 2011 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:14:13 +0300 Subject: natty: no KDE desktop In-Reply-To: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> References: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 07:41, D. R. Evans wrote: > I just upgraded my main machine (64-bit) from maverick to natty. There were > no errors in the upgrade. > > Now when I log in all I get is a completely black screen, along with a > visible mouse cursor and a couple of buddy-list windows (for gaim and > skype). There is no background, none of my widgets, no panel, and clicking > any mouse buttons on the the black desktop background does nothing at all. > Minimizing the buddy-list windows causes them to disappear. Maximizing them > causes them to occupy the entire screen (not just the part of the screen > they would have occupied had there been a visible panel). > > I've tried renaming ~/.kde and ~/.kderc, but that had no effect. > > What can I do to get a functioning desktop? (Preferably something close to > the one I had in maverick, but right now after spending several hours and > getting nowhere, just a regular ol' default KDE desktop would be great > progress.) > > I'm writing this from xfce, since at least that works. > >  Doc > Move /home/user to /home/user-temp and then create an empty /home/user with the right permissions and ownership. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From aitor.cuartango at gmail.com Thu May 12 08:26:43 2011 From: aitor.cuartango at gmail.com (Aitor Cuartango) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:26:43 +0200 Subject: natty: no KDE desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you try installing again "kubuntu-desktop " package? From command line doing Ctrl+Alt+F1 and using apt-get ... aitor 2011/5/12 Dotan Cohen > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 07:41, D. R. Evans wrote: > > I just upgraded my main machine (64-bit) from maverick to natty. There > were > > no errors in the upgrade. > > > > Now when I log in all I get is a completely black screen, along with a > > visible mouse cursor and a couple of buddy-list windows (for gaim and > > skype). There is no background, none of my widgets, no panel, and > clicking > > any mouse buttons on the the black desktop background does nothing at > all. > > Minimizing the buddy-list windows causes them to disappear. Maximizing > them > > causes them to occupy the entire screen (not just the part of the screen > > they would have occupied had there been a visible panel). > > > > I've tried renaming ~/.kde and ~/.kderc, but that had no effect. > > > > What can I do to get a functioning desktop? (Preferably something close > to > > the one I had in maverick, but right now after spending several hours and > > getting nowhere, just a regular ol' default KDE desktop would be great > > progress.) > > > > I'm writing this from xfce, since at least that works. > > > > Doc > > > > Move /home/user to /home/user-temp and then create an empty /home/user > with the right permissions and ownership. > > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://gibberish.co.il > http://what-is-what.com > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu May 12 08:31:39 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 02:31:39 -0600 Subject: natty: no KDE desktop In-Reply-To: References: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DCB9AEB.7010604@gmail.com> Dotan Cohen said the following at 05/12/2011 02:14 AM : >> > > Move /home/user to /home/user-temp and then create an empty /home/user > with the right permissions and ownership. > > Then the screen blanks briefly and immediately returns me to the login screen. I've tried creating a completely new user, and that won't log in either. Is there some way to re-install all the KDE-related packages? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How about this: $ sudo apt-get install kdebase-apps -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From faptagon at gmail.com Thu May 12 08:41:30 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 01:41:30 -0700 Subject: Panel Woes Solved Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:58:12 -0500 > From: Monty Shinn > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: Panel Woes Solved > > On 05/11/2011 10:39 AM, Bill vance wrote: >> Howdy again folks; >> >> I found a solution that you might want to implement for insurance. >> >> I have a multi user setup, but the users are all email aliases for the >> various lists >> I'm subbscribed to. That's also my reason for wanting to be root, (ease >> of >> switching from one to another). I virtuially never log on as one of >> these, as doing so is a cumbersome, and time wasting procedure. >> >> Anyway the way I solved my disapearing kde setup, was to log on as one of >> my >> aliases, and lo, there it was a pristine setup. So I used the >> reviled, "sudo", to >> copy the, ".kde", directory and a few other things over to my usual >> /home/self, >> and the rest was a relatively simple matter of, "chown self >> /home/self/.kde/*", and,"chgrp self /home/self/.kde/*". You'll need >> to do that for each, "/*", step >> out to around ,"/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*", just stop when you get a, "no such file >> or >> directory", error, and then log back in as yourself, and you're, "home", >> free. >> >> So, the cure then is to create a bogus user, (if you don't have sonething >> you >> can allready use as one), do all your usual system setups for the bogus >> one, >> and you're done. One each, emergency backup for your kde system. >> >> Later, bye; >> >> Bill >> > > Perhaps a better option would be to use the chown -R and chgrp -R to do > all the changes recursively, if I am understanding what you are doing. > > I appreciate the info. I think I'm going to make a copy of my .kde > directory for safe keeping... > > Monty Thanks for the tip. Chalk it up to program creep; Allways new options being added since the last time you read the man page.....:-) About the copy though, making an occaisional backup of the, "cp -R /home/self/* /home/bogus", variety, is simpler than a formal backup, and quicker to access as well. Good to do both sorts of course. Bill From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu May 12 08:44:55 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 09:44:55 +0100 Subject: natty: no KDE desktop In-Reply-To: <4DCB9AEB.7010604@gmail.com> References: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> <4DCB9AEB.7010604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105120944.56526.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Thursday 12 May 2011 09:31:39 D. R. Evans wrote: > Dotan Cohen said the following at 05/12/2011 02:14 AM : > > Move /home/user to /home/user-temp and then create an empty /home/user > > with the right permissions and ownership. > > Then the screen blanks briefly and immediately returns me to the login > screen. > > I've tried creating a completely new user, and that won't log in either. Is > there some way to re-install all the KDE-related packages? > > Doc Is this related to this bug on Launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/710144 ? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From ubuntu at kitterman.com Thu May 12 10:53:33 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 06:53:33 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2011 Message-ID: <81db2e397a8e73b7a1af95847773c452.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com> The Kubuntu Council is a group of 6 Kubuntu Members who get to vote on membership of Kubuntu Members and occasionally other decisions regarding Kubuntu. Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year appointment so we need to hold elections for the open positions to the council. This could be you! If you are a Kubuntu Member and are willing to turn up to Kubuntu meetings as much as possible for the next couple of years do consider putting your name forward. We are particularly encouraging non-developers to put their name forward, as we feel that a less development focused council would be beneficial for the Kubuntu community. To put your name forward make sure you update your wiki page and then post to this list. To nominate someone else also write to this list. It might be a good idea to first have a chat with the affected person. Please note that everyone who was nominated by someone else will have to verify their nomination. Closing date for nominations is Thursday 19 May at 23:59 UTC. The poll will start on Sunday 21 May. Voting instruction will be sent to members of the kubuntu-members team on Launchpad directly. regards, Scott Kitterman for the Kubuntu Council From clemhime2 at hotmail.ca Thu May 12 11:24:13 2011 From: clemhime2 at hotmail.ca (cori madden) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 07:24:13 -0400 Subject: Cant get any of my Mic's to work on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Im having a problem getting my mic to work, Skypes not picking it up its not muted (checked that several times from the sound mixer any thing I can do to get it to work? I tried both my analog mic and my MS Life cam mic and both arnt working in Kubuntu 11.04 ~Reliks MoonWolf Blessed Be, and God Bless! > From: kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 14 > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:14:19 +0000 > > Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: unity desktop how do I find (Tom Bell) > 2. natty host - lucid KVM guest doesn't boot (Mirto Silvio Busico) > 3. Re: Panel Woes Solved (Bill vance) > 4. Re: Panel Woes Solved (Monty Shinn) > 5. Re: unity desktop how do I find (uriah heep) > 6. Re: unity desktop how do I find (Michael Hirsch) > 7. natty: no KDE desktop (D. R. Evans) > 8. Re: natty: no KDE desktop (Dotan Cohen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 09:46:12 -0400 > From: Tom Bell > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: unity desktop how do I find > Message-ID: <4DCA9324.2080701 at cfl.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 5/11/2011 2:35 AM, Isak Enstr?m wrote: > > On 11/05/11 05:17, uriah heep wrote: > >> I am having problems finding things in the new desktop. I could not > >> find konsole (whats up with that?) and then discovered I had to > >> download it so I did and now I can not find it. I looked for symantik > >> and it is supposedly installed but I can not find the interface. > >> > >> Would some one direct me to documentation on this or tell me how to > >> find Konsole and a recognizable symantik? I really would like to add > >> the mediabuntu repository etc. > >> > >> Is there anyway I can get back the old desktop? > >> > > Since Konsole is a KDE application it would not be installed when > > using Unity (Ubuntu). As for where it is I can't answer since I'm not > > running Ubuntu 11.04 but try pressing the Windows key to show the menu > > and do a search for Konsole. Similarly you could do a search for > > Synaptic (I assume that's what you're looking for?) > > > > Instructions for adding the Medibuntu repo should be available both at > > www.medibuntu.org and at help.ubuntu.com > > > KMenu -> Applications -> System -> "Terminal - Konsole". > > Tom > > -- > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD > ("Who will protect us from the protectors?") > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:05:47 +0200 > From: Mirto Silvio Busico > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: natty host - lucid KVM guest doesn't boot > Message-ID: <4DCA97BB.2000105 at fastwebnet.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > Hi all, > > I have a Kubuntu Natty amd64 with qemu-kvm as host and I'm using > virt-manager. > > If I create a Natty amd64 guest all works fine. > > If I create a Lucid amd64 guest the installation seems completed > correctly, but the VM doesn't start stating that there is no bootable > device. > > Anyone experienced this problem? > > Any suggestion? > > Thanks > Mirto > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: mirtosilvio_busico.vcf > Type: text/x-vcard > Size: 272 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 08:39:13 -0700 > From: Bill vance > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Panel Woes Solved > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Howdy again folks; > > I found a solution that you might want to implement for insurance. > > I have a multi user setup, but the users are all email aliases for the > various lists > I'm subbscribed to. That's also my reason for wanting to be root, (ease of > switching from one to another). I virtuially never log on as one of > these, as doing so is a cumbersome, and time wasting procedure. > > Anyway the way I solved my disapearing kde setup, was to log on as one of my > aliases, and lo, there it was a pristine setup. So I used the > reviled, "sudo", to > copy the, ".kde", directory and a few other things over to my usual /home/self, > and the rest was a relatively simple matter of, "chown self > /home/self/.kde/*", and,"chgrp self /home/self/.kde/*". You'll need > to do that for each, "/*", step > out to around ,"/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*", just stop when you get a, "no such file or > directory", error, and then log back in as yourself, and you're, "home", free. > > So, the cure then is to create a bogus user, (if you don't have sonething you > can allready use as one), do all your usual system setups for the bogus one, > and you're done. One each, emergency backup for your kde system. > > Later, bye; > > Bill > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 10:58:12 -0500 > From: Monty Shinn > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: Panel Woes Solved > Message-ID: <4DCAB214.6040509 at videopost.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 05/11/2011 10:39 AM, Bill vance wrote: > > Howdy again folks; > > > > I found a solution that you might want to implement for insurance. > > > > I have a multi user setup, but the users are all email aliases for the > > various lists > > I'm subbscribed to. That's also my reason for wanting to be root, (ease of > > switching from one to another). I virtuially never log on as one of > > these, as doing so is a cumbersome, and time wasting procedure. > > > > Anyway the way I solved my disapearing kde setup, was to log on as one of my > > aliases, and lo, there it was a pristine setup. So I used the > > reviled, "sudo", to > > copy the, ".kde", directory and a few other things over to my usual /home/self, > > and the rest was a relatively simple matter of, "chown self > > /home/self/.kde/*", and,"chgrp self /home/self/.kde/*". You'll need > > to do that for each, "/*", step > > out to around ,"/*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*", just stop when you get a, "no such file or > > directory", error, and then log back in as yourself, and you're, "home", free. > > > > So, the cure then is to create a bogus user, (if you don't have sonething you > > can allready use as one), do all your usual system setups for the bogus one, > > and you're done. One each, emergency backup for your kde system. > > > > Later, bye; > > > > Bill > > > > Perhaps a better option would be to use the chown -R and chgrp -R to do > all the changes recursively, if I am understanding what you are doing. > > I appreciate the info. I think I'm going to make a copy of my .kde > directory for safe keeping... > > Monty > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:50:06 -0400 > From: uriah heep > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: unity desktop how do I find > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Tom Bell wrote: > > > On 5/11/2011 2:35 AM, Isak Enstr?m wrote: > > > >> On 11/05/11 05:17, uriah heep wrote: > >> > >>> I am having problems finding things in the new desktop. I could not > >>> find konsole (whats up with that?) and then discovered I had to > >>> download it so I did and now I can not find it. I looked for symantik > >>> and it is supposedly installed but I can not find the interface. > >>> > >>> Would some one direct me to documentation on this or tell me how to > >>> find Konsole and a recognizable symantik? I really would like to add > >>> the mediabuntu repository etc. > >>> > >>> Is there anyway I can get back the old desktop? > >>> > >>> Since Konsole is a KDE application it would not be installed when using > >> Unity (Ubuntu). As for where it is I can't answer since I'm not running > >> Ubuntu 11.04 but try pressing the Windows key to show the menu and do a > >> search for Konsole. Similarly you could do a search for Synaptic (I assume > >> that's what you're looking for?) > >> > >> Instructions for adding the Medibuntu repo should be available both at > >> www.medibuntu.org and at help.ubuntu.com > >> > >> KMenu -> Applications -> System -> "Terminal - Konsole". > > > > Tom > > > > -- > > > Seems that I was using my winter IQ and downloaded Ubuntu rather than > Kubuntu. Now downloading Kubuntu my apology for wasting bandwith. > > Uriah > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:32:47 -0600 > From: Michael Hirsch > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: unity desktop how do I find > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:50 PM, uriah heep wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Tom Bell wrote: > >> > >> On 5/11/2011 2:35 AM, Isak Enstr?m wrote: > >>> > >>> On 11/05/11 05:17, uriah heep wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I am having problems finding things in the new desktop. ?I could not > >>>> find konsole (whats up with that?) and then discovered I had to > >>>> download it so I did and now I can not find it. ?I looked for symantik > >>>> and it is supposedly installed but I can not find the interface. > >>>> > >>>> Would some one direct me to documentation on this or tell me how to > >>>> find Konsole and a recognizable symantik? ?I really would like to add > >>>> the mediabuntu repository etc. > >>>> > >>>> Is there anyway I can get back the old desktop? > >>>> > >>> Since Konsole is a KDE application it would not be installed when using > >>> Unity (Ubuntu). As for where it is I can't answer since I'm not running > >>> Ubuntu 11.04 but try pressing the Windows key to show the menu and do a > >>> search for Konsole. Similarly you could do a search for Synaptic (I assume > >>> that's what you're looking for?) > >>> > >>> Instructions for adding the Medibuntu repo should be available both at > >>> www.medibuntu.org and at help.ubuntu.com > >>> > >> KMenu -> Applications -> System -> "Terminal - Konsole". > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> -- > > > > Seems that I was using my winter IQ and downloaded Ubuntu rather than > > Kubuntu. Now downloading Kubuntu my apology for wasting bandwith. > > just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and you should have > Kubuntu installed, too. Now you can play with both. Pick which one > you want when you log in. > > Michael > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:41:47 -0600 > From: "D. R. Evans" > To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions > Subject: natty: no KDE desktop > Message-ID: <4DCB650B.1070602 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I just upgraded my main machine (64-bit) from maverick to natty. There were > no errors in the upgrade. > > Now when I log in all I get is a completely black screen, along with a > visible mouse cursor and a couple of buddy-list windows (for gaim and > skype). There is no background, none of my widgets, no panel, and clicking > any mouse buttons on the the black desktop background does nothing at all. > Minimizing the buddy-list windows causes them to disappear. Maximizing them > causes them to occupy the entire screen (not just the part of the screen > they would have occupied had there been a visible panel). > > I've tried renaming ~/.kde and ~/.kderc, but that had no effect. > > What can I do to get a functioning desktop? (Preferably something close to > the one I had in maverick, but right now after spending several hours and > getting nowhere, just a regular ol' default KDE desktop would be great > progress.) > > I'm writing this from xfce, since at least that works. > > Doc > > -- > Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 262 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:14:13 +0300 > From: Dotan Cohen > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: natty: no KDE desktop > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 07:41, D. R. Evans wrote: > > I just upgraded my main machine (64-bit) from maverick to natty. There were > > no errors in the upgrade. > > > > Now when I log in all I get is a completely black screen, along with a > > visible mouse cursor and a couple of buddy-list windows (for gaim and > > skype). There is no background, none of my widgets, no panel, and clicking > > any mouse buttons on the the black desktop background does nothing at all. > > Minimizing the buddy-list windows causes them to disappear. Maximizing them > > causes them to occupy the entire screen (not just the part of the screen > > they would have occupied had there been a visible panel). > > > > I've tried renaming ~/.kde and ~/.kderc, but that had no effect. > > > > What can I do to get a functioning desktop? (Preferably something close to > > the one I had in maverick, but right now after spending several hours and > > getting nowhere, just a regular ol' default KDE desktop would be great > > progress.) > > > > I'm writing this from xfce, since at least that works. > > > > ?Doc > > > > Move /home/user to /home/user-temp and then create an empty /home/user > with the right permissions and ownership. > > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://gibberish.co.il > http://what-is-what.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > End of kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 14 > ********************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu May 12 11:30:49 2011 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 12:30:49 +0100 Subject: Cant get any of my Mic's to work on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105121230.49964.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Thursday 12 May 2011 12:24:13 cori madden wrote: > Im having a problem getting my mic to work, Skypes not picking it up its > not muted (checked that several times from the sound mixer > > any thing I can do to get it to work? I tried both my analog mic and my MS > Life cam mic and both arnt working in Kubuntu 11.04 > This may work. Install and run pavcontrol. In the input tab, if you have separate left and right controls make sure they're unlinked and drag one control slightly left or right. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From kassube at gmx.net Thu May 12 11:37:27 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 13:37:27 +0200 Subject: Cant get any of my Mic's to work on Kubuntu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105121337.27858.kassube@gmx.net> cori madden wrote: > Im having a problem getting my mic to work, Skypes not picking it up > its not muted (checked that several times from the sound mixer > > any thing I can do to get it to work? I tried both my analog mic and > my MS Life cam mic and both arnt working in Kubuntu 11.04 I suppose you should run the program pavucontrol from the package with the same name. > > From: kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 14 > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:14:19 +0000 Please don't send the entire digest to the list, thanks. We have seen all those mails already and they have nothing to do with your subject. Nils From witchcat at wildblue.net Thu May 12 20:20:19 2011 From: witchcat at wildblue.net (Perry Cooper) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:20:19 -0400 Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 16 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: change email address to witchcat at myfairpoint.net Respectfully, witchcat at wildblue.net -----Original Message----- From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 8:00 AM To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 16 Send kubuntu-users mailing list submissions to kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at kubuntu-users-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cant get any of my Mic's to work on Kubuntu (Mark Fraser) 2. Re: Cant get any of my Mic's to work on Kubuntu (Nils Kassube) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 12:30:49 +0100 From: Mark Fraser To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Cant get any of my Mic's to work on Kubuntu Message-ID: <201105121230.49964.ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" On Thursday 12 May 2011 12:24:13 cori madden wrote: > Im having a problem getting my mic to work, Skypes not picking it up > its not muted (checked that several times from the sound mixer > > any thing I can do to get it to work? I tried both my analog mic and > my MS Life cam mic and both arnt working in Kubuntu 11.04 > This may work. Install and run pavcontrol. In the input tab, if you have separate left and right controls make sure they're unlinked and drag one control slightly left or right. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 13:37:27 +0200 From: Nils Kassube To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Cant get any of my Mic's to work on Kubuntu Message-ID: <201105121337.27858.kassube at gmx.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" cori madden wrote: > Im having a problem getting my mic to work, Skypes not picking it up > its not muted (checked that several times from the sound mixer > > any thing I can do to get it to work? I tried both my analog mic and > my MS Life cam mic and both arnt working in Kubuntu 11.04 I suppose you should run the program pavucontrol from the package with the same name. > > From: kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 14 > > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:14:19 +0000 Please don't send the entire digest to the list, thanks. We have seen all those mails already and they have nothing to do with your subject. Nils ------------------------------ -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users End of kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 76, Issue 16 ********************************************* From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu May 12 22:10:00 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:10:00 -0600 Subject: natty: no KDE desktop In-Reply-To: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> References: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DCC5AB8.5050204@gmail.com> OK, so I fixed the issue, but it was pretty horrible. 1. For reasons I cannot even guess at, the upgrade removed the plasma-desktop package. 2. When I installed that package manually, I could at least get the KDE desktop again. BUT somehow all my settings (everything!) had disappeared into vapour. Fortunately, all the important stuff (I hope) was backed up separately, but I didn't have any record of the actual widgets, etc. and so I'm trying to put all that stuff back manually. And there are doubtless some programs I rarely use whose config has been lost; I just hope there weren't any important data that I didn't include in my backup script. I've now included my ~/.kde hierarchy in my hourly backup script, so next time everything disappears I should have a current copy of it all readily available. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From dotancohen at gmail.com Fri May 13 12:33:01 2011 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 15:33:01 +0300 Subject: natty: no KDE desktop In-Reply-To: <4DCC5AB8.5050204@gmail.com> References: <4DCB650B.1070602@gmail.com> <4DCC5AB8.5050204@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 01:10, D. R. Evans wrote: > OK, so I fixed the issue, but it was pretty horrible. > > 1. For reasons I cannot even guess at, the upgrade removed the > plasma-desktop package. > > 2. When I installed that package manually, I could at least get the KDE > desktop again. BUT somehow all my settings (everything!) had disappeared > into vapour. Fortunately, all the important stuff (I hope) was backed up > separately, but I didn't have any record of the actual widgets, etc. and so > I'm trying to put all that stuff back manually. And there are doubtless > some programs I rarely use whose config has been lost; I just hope there > weren't any important data that I didn't include in my backup script. > > I've now included my ~/.kde hierarchy in my hourly backup script, so next > time everything disappears I should have a current copy of it all readily > available. > >  Doc > Might I have a look at that backup script? I'm unhappy with my current backup strategy and I'm looking for something more robust. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From denis.prost at wanadoo.fr Sat May 14 05:34:21 2011 From: denis.prost at wanadoo.fr (Denis Prost) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 07:34:21 +0200 Subject: incomplete strigi indexing Message-ID: <4DCE145D.2080506@wanadoo.fr> Hi everyone, I'm new to the list, just switched to kubuntu which is nice. I tried it in the past but KDE was not mature enough to fit my needs, now it seems to be ! Just one question : I was used with Gnome to quickly open folders, just typing a few letters of their name in gnome-do window (thanks to its FilesAndFolders plugin), and I'm trying to get this very handy feature with KDE. I supposed the way to do it was to activate strigi plugin in krunner, configure nepomuk to index my directories and type its name in krunner window. So I indexed my Documents folder : it almost works but strangely beyond depth 3, some directories don't seem to be indexed since they are never proposed in krunner results list. I tried to reactivate strigi indexing, but it stops as if it considered that all indexing is done. anyone knows how to solve that problem ? thanks Denis From denis.prost at wanadoo.fr Sat May 14 05:47:14 2011 From: denis.prost at wanadoo.fr (Denis Prost) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 07:47:14 +0200 Subject: incomplete strigi indexing [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <4DCE145D.2080506@wanadoo.fr> References: <4DCE145D.2080506@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <4DCE1762.9060904@wanadoo.fr> Le 14/05/2011 07:34, Denis Prost a écrit : > Hi everyone, > > I'm new to the list, just switched to kubuntu which is nice. I tried > it in the past but KDE was not mature enough to fit my needs, now it > seems to be ! > Just one question : I was used with Gnome to quickly open folders, > just typing a few letters of their name in gnome-do window (thanks to > its FilesAndFolders plugin), and I'm trying to get this very handy > feature with KDE. I supposed the way to do it was to activate strigi > plugin in krunner, configure nepomuk to index my directories and type > its name in krunner window. > So I indexed my Documents folder : it almost works but strangely > beyond depth 3, some directories don't seem to be indexed since they > are never proposed in krunner results list. > I tried to reactivate strigi indexing, but it stops as if it > considered that all indexing is done. > anyone knows how to solve that problem ? > thanks > After computer reboot, indexing restarted and it seems to index all missing directories. Solved ! Denis From h.stencil at verizon.net Sat May 14 20:25:40 2011 From: h.stencil at verizon.net (h.stencil at verizon.net) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 16:25:40 -0400 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One older machine on my home net has been running flawlwssly for years, using the KDE3.5 desktop and Kubuntu 8.04. I gather that KDE4 has pretty much got past its teething problems, and I'd like to bring this box up to date. Should I... -incrementally update, issue by issue? -incrementally update, using only LTS issues? -jump update, directly to 11.04? -leave it the hell alone? TIA, stencil From kassube at gmx.net Sat May 14 21:03:10 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 23:03:10 +0200 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105142303.10350.kassube@gmx.net> h.stencil at verizon.net wrote: > One older machine on my home net has been running flawlwssly > for years, using the KDE3.5 desktop and Kubuntu 8.04. I > gather that KDE4 has pretty much got past its teething > problems, and I'd like to bring this box up to date. > > Should I... > > -incrementally update, issue by issue? Only if you want to spend a lot of time. > -incrementally update, using only LTS issues? Using only LTS issues? Kubuntu 8.04 wasn't LTS and IIRC, there was no direct path from 8.04 to 10.04 for Kubuntu (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). If you want to use 10.04, I would suggest to do a fresh install where you keep your home directory. You can achieve this if you select manual partitioning. Use the current file system and don't format the / partition. But make sure to have a backup first and check the release notes [1]. > -jump update, directly to 11.04? If you want to use 11.04, this would be the quickest option. But I would suggest a fresh install where you keep your home directory (see above). Again, make sure to have a backup first and check the release notes [2]. > -leave it the hell alone? IMHO it isn't useful to run an unsupported OS. Nils [1] [2] From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sat May 14 21:53:08 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Score Kitterman) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:53:08 -0400 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: <201105142303.10350.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201105142303.10350.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: Nils Kassube wrote: >h.stencil at verizon.net wrote: >> One older machine on my home net has been running flawlwssly >> for years, using the KDE3.5 desktop and Kubuntu 8.04. I >> gather that KDE4 has pretty much got past its teething >> problems, and I'd like to bring this box up to date. >> >> Should I... >> >> -incrementally update, issue by issue? > >Only if you want to spend a lot of time. > >> -incrementally update, using only LTS issues? > >Using only LTS issues? Kubuntu 8.04 wasn't LTS and IIRC, there was no >direct path from 8.04 to 10.04 for Kubuntu (someone please correct me >if >I'm wrong). If you want to use 10.04, I would suggest to do a fresh >install where you keep your home directory. You can achieve this if you > >select manual partitioning. Use the current file system and don't >format >the / partition. But make sure to have a backup first and check the >release notes [1]. > >> -jump update, directly to 11.04? > >If you want to use 11.04, this would be the quickest option. But I >would >suggest a fresh install where you keep your home directory (see above). For Kubuntu there isn't a supported upgrade path from Hardy anymore (it was through Intrepid). We did, however test direct Hardy to Lucid upgrades. I'd back up your data and try that path. Direct Hardy to Natty upgrades are very likely to be problematic. Once you make it to Lucid, the supported upgrade path is to Maverick and the Natty. Scott K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Sun May 15 00:17:35 2011 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:17:35 -0700 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105141717.35882.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Saturday, May 14, 2011 1:25:40 pm h.stencil at verizon.net wrote: > One older machine on my home net has been running flawlessly > for years, using the KDE3.5 desktop and Kubuntu 8.04. I > gather that KDE4 has pretty much got past its teething > problems, and I'd like to bring this box up to date. > > Should I... > > -incrementally update, issue by issue? > > -incrementally update, using only LTS issues? Best choice, however what you would need to do is first load gnome then boot into that, do the upgrade to the next LTS (10.04) which should work flawlessly as they made that Gnome junk work. They do seem to think of KDE as a red headed stepchild but it really is the ONLY Ubuntu that works!! Once done with the upgrade, reboot into KDE and just do the normal updates. > -jump update, directly to 11.04? Not likely to work unless you are REALLY good at hand rolling a distro. Still would take a terrible amount of time to do what others have already done. > > -leave it the hell alone? second best choice, BUT to do the correct upgrade path, you would do the above unless you want to try stepping through each successive upgrade, some of which are already no longer supported and waste a HUGE amount of time. -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org _Registered Kubuntu User: #27403 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From david.wonderly at kubuntu.org Sun May 15 00:28:05 2011 From: david.wonderly at kubuntu.org (David Wonderly) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 17:28:05 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Council Nomination Message-ID: <201105141728.05855.david.wonderly@kubuntu.org> Greetings and salutations! I am nominating myself for the position of Kubuntu Council. I started getting involved with Kubuntu during the Lucid release cycle. I started by helping with the Kubuntu Netbook program and then started helping out with documentation. Since that cycle I have been more involved with each release cycle doing more and more with the documentation and recently have started putting together plans and developing for more community projects. Thank you for your consideration for the position of Kubuntu Council. I will see you all around IRC. David "DarkwingDuck" Wonderly https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DavidWonderly https://launchpad.net/~david.wonderly DarkwingDuck on FreeNode From cp at ccil.org Sun May 15 00:59:59 2011 From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 20:59:59 -0400 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:25 PM, wrote: > One older machine on my home net has been running flawlwssly > for years, using the KDE3.5 desktop and Kubuntu 8.04.  I > gather that KDE4 has pretty much got past its teething > problems, and I'd like to bring this box up to date. Older as in a Intel P4 with onboard Intel graphics? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes On a few machines I have helped others with the stability went out the window with 10.04. 10.10 was a somewhat better as far as X not crashing, but not as as good as it was with earlier versions. I haven't had a chance to see how well those machine do with 11.04 yet. Before you upgrade, make backups of at least your user data! I also get a copy, via rsync, of /root, /etc and /var/backups in my routine backups as well as a listing of packages for restoring the system. # cat /usr/local/sbin/backup-prep.sh #!/bin/bash # This gives us a list of versions of packages dpkg -l > /var/backups/dpkg-l # This list is useful to restore packages, # ie cat dpkg--get-selections | dpkg --set-selections # and run apt-get dselect-upgrade or whatever. dpkg --get-selections > /var/backups/dpkg--get-selections dpkg-query --show > /var/backups/dpkg-query--show > Should I... > > -leave it the hell alone? End of Life is 3 years for the LTS Desktop, so yes it is about time to upgrade. The recommended path is 8.04 -> 10.04 And if you have that particular Intel graphics I mentioned, immediately upgrade to 10.10 and perhaps 11.04. 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 Chuck From faptagon at gmail.com Sun May 15 05:19:04 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 22:19:04 -0700 Subject: Launcher Menuing Message-ID: Howdy folks; 2nd try. Can someone point me to the file(s) that do the menus for the KDE launcher? After the last redo, there's a bunch of things in, "Lost and Found", that I'd like to get into their proper categories. Bill From tv.debian at googlemail.com Sun May 15 08:53:14 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 10:53:14 +0200 Subject: Launcher Menuing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DCF947A.2010108@googlemail.com> 15/05/2011 07:19, Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > 2nd try. > > Can someone point me to the file(s) that do the menus for the KDE launcher? > After the last redo, there's a bunch of things in, "Lost and Found", > that I'd like to > get into their proper categories. > > Bill > Hi, I assume you are talking about the *.desktop files that form the applications menu. I would say start by looking in ~/.local/share/applications/, or look for existing *.desktop files in your home directory: find ~ -name *.desktop From claydoh at claydoh.com Sun May 15 10:10:53 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 06:10:53 -0400 Subject: Launcher Menuing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105150610.53376.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Sunday, May 15, 2011 01:19:04 AM Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > 2nd try. > > Can someone point me to the file(s) that do the menus for the KDE launcher? > After the last redo, there's a bunch of things in, "Lost and Found", > that I'd like to > get into their proper categories. > > Bill Right-click on the kmenu to bring up some options, one is the menu editor, where you can move the items where you need to clay From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun May 15 10:58:51 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 03:58:51 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2011 In-Reply-To: <81db2e397a8e73b7a1af95847773c452.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com> References: <81db2e397a8e73b7a1af95847773c452.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > The Kubuntu Council is a group of 6 Kubuntu Members who get to vote on > membership of Kubuntu Members and occasionally other decisions regarding > Kubuntu. > > Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year appointment so we need > to hold elections for the open positions to the council.  This could be > you! If you are a Kubuntu Member and are willing to turn up to Kubuntu > meetings as much as possible for the next couple of years do consider > putting your name forward. > > We are particularly encouraging non-developers to put their name forward, > as we feel that a less development focused council would be beneficial for > the Kubuntu community. Since you want non-developer Members to apply, that gives me the courage to put my name in the hat. For those of you whom I have not met, I've been a Kubuntu Member since last October, and attended UDS-N in Orlando. While there, I met many of the developers on the team, and participated and learned as much as possible. I help out in #kubuntu, although I'm not very technically inclined. I help people find resources, though, and also write the Linux Grandma blog about my adventures in FOSS. This past month, I staffed a booth for the Washington State LoCo at Linuxfest Northwest, promoting Kubuntu and Ubuntu, along with the Ubuntu-Women project. I had my little netbook running Kubuntu 11.04 with the Netbook interface, and let people play with it. We had a larger screen at the booth with Unity. For the Oneiric cycle I hope to continue my on-going work, and also to help David out with docs a bit. If you elect me as a Councillor, I will do my best to do the research necessary, attend all meetings, and vote on the issues before the Council in a fair manner. Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~valorie-zimmerman Wiki page: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ValorieZimmerman I respectfully ask for your vote for Kubuntu Council. Valorie Zimmerman -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 15 12:52:30 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Score Kitterman) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:52:30 -0400 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: <201105141717.35882.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <201105141717.35882.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <6b9dd5ac-ba97-43b0-ac8b-4bc0cc18359a@email.android.com> Pastor JW wrote: ... >Best choice, however what you would need to do is first load gnome then >boot >into that, do the upgrade to the next LTS (10.04) which should work >flawlessly >as they made that Gnome junk work. They do seem to think of KDE as a >red >headed stepchild but it really is the ONLY Ubuntu that works!! Once >done with >the upgrade, reboot into KDE and just do the normal updates. ... Virtually none of this is accurate. There is virtually no chance that installing Ubuntu (Gnome) and upgrading from within it is more likely to be successful. The fiddly bits of upgrading are handled by update-manager's back end which is used regardless of the active desktop. The decision to not make Kubuntu Hardy an LTS was a reasonable one for a variety of reasons. Just to pick one example, I had to do some extremely awful hacks to get Guidance Display Manager to work at all with the X stack shipped in Hardy. 8.04 was very bad timing from a KDE perspective for an LTS. Coordination between Ubuntu and Kubuntu has improved considerably over the last several years. Kubuntu is primarily a community driven project. Personally, I prefer it as this gives us a lot more control over the project. Continued inflammatory language about *-headed step children won't make more engineering resources appear and really mis-characterizes the situation. Scott K From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Sun May 15 15:11:33 2011 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:11:33 -0700 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: <6b9dd5ac-ba97-43b0-ac8b-4bc0cc18359a@email.android.com> References: <201105141717.35882.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <6b9dd5ac-ba97-43b0-ac8b-4bc0cc18359a@email.android.com> Message-ID: <201105150811.33631.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Sunday, May 15, 2011 5:52:30 am Score Kitterman wrote: > Pastor JW wrote: > ... > > >Best choice, however what you would need to do is first load gnome then > >boot > >into that, do the upgrade to the next LTS (10.04) which should work > >flawlessly > >as they made that Gnome junk work. They do seem to think of KDE as a > >red > >headed stepchild but it really is the ONLY Ubuntu that works!! Once > >done with > >the upgrade, reboot into KDE and just do the normal updates. > > ... > > Virtually none of this is accurate. > > There is virtually no chance that installing Ubuntu (Gnome) and upgrading > from within it is more likely to be successful. The fiddly bits of > upgrading are handled by update-manager's back end which is used > regardless of the active desktop. Right, the three of my users tried that. It borked their systems. Two had. backups so reinstalled that the third didn't said it was too much trouble and went with windoze. All the rest of my users upgraded exactly the way I said and it worked for us without error. It also happens to be the way the upgrade notes said to do it! I merely reported the experience of our fifty-three user member local group. Actually, one user upgraded via Xfce which worked but he had the normal issues with his Nvidia card. > The decision to not make Kubuntu Hardy an LTS was a reasonable one for a > variety of reasons. Just to pick one example, I had to do some extremely > awful hacks to get Guidance Display Manager to work at all with the X > stack shipped in Hardy. 8.04 was very bad timing from a KDE perspective > for an LTS. Yes it was poor timing hence the red headed stepchild reference. > Coordination between Ubuntu and Kubuntu has improved considerably over the > last several years. Kubuntu is primarily a community driven project. > Personally, I prefer it as this gives us a lot more control over the > project. Continued inflammatory language about *-headed step children > won't make more engineering resources appear and really mis-characterizes > the situation. Nothing at all inflammatory about it. Just the treatment we seem always to receive; ...even on KDE and ubuntu lists!! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org _Registered Kubuntu User: #27403 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun May 15 15:50:22 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 11:50:22 -0400 Subject: No logging occuring to /var/log/messages Message-ID: <201105151150.23059.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> I made a stupid boo-boo yesterday and filled up my root partition. Didn't take long to correct the situation but in the process, I guess the system paniced and deleted all of my /var/log/messages and messages.x files. Ok, that's nice... but having reinstated a messages file (empty) and checked on rsyslogd (which is running) and rebooting, I still don't get any messages in the file. I've used logger to create a message but it only goes to /var/log/syslog and not to /var/log/messages. Googling for the problem has not yeilded any solutions. Anyone have a clue to this? From tomh0665 at gmail.com Sun May 15 20:14:30 2011 From: tomh0665 at gmail.com (Tom H) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:14:30 -0400 Subject: No logging occuring to /var/log/messages In-Reply-To: <201105151150.23059.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201105151150.23059.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > I made a stupid boo-boo yesterday and filled up my root partition. > > Didn't take long to correct the situation but in the process, I guess the > system paniced and deleted all of my  /var/log/messages and messages.x files. > > Ok, that's nice...   but having reinstated a messages file (empty) and checked > on rsyslogd (which is running) and rebooting, I still don't get any messages > in the file. > > I've used logger to create a message but it only goes to /var/log/syslog and > not to /var/log/messages.  Googling for the problem has not yeilded any > solutions. Logging to "/var/log/messages" is disabled in "/etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf". From david.wonderly at kubuntu.org Mon May 16 00:24:46 2011 From: david.wonderly at kubuntu.org (David Wonderly) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 17:24:46 -0700 Subject: A call for some help with a 10.04LTS project Message-ID: <201105151724.46219.david.wonderly@kubuntu.org> I am looking for someone to help me with a review and fix project with Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. If you are running this and wish to help with a Kubuntu Project please, contact me. You can either reply here or, I am in #kubuntu and #kubuntu-devel as DarkwingDuck. Thank you in advance. David "DarkwingDuck" Wonderly From faptagon at gmail.com Mon May 16 06:41:09 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 23:41:09 -0700 Subject: Launcher Menuing Message-ID: On Sun, 15 May 2011 06:10:53 -0400 Clay wrote: > On Sunday, May 15, 2011 01:19:04 AM Bill vance wrote: >> Howdy folks; >> >> 2nd try. >> >> Can someone point me to the file(s) that do the menus for the KDE >> launcher? >> After the last redo, there's a bunch of things in, "Lost and Found", >> that I'd like to >> get into their proper categories. >> >> Bill > Right-click on the kmenu to bring up some options, one is the menu editor, > where you can move the items where you need to > > clay That actually seems to work but there's a big problem that spills over intoa bunch of other kde programs, as well. When I try to save everything, I get this little, "update", window with a percentage type progress bar. The bar proceeds from left to right, and when it gets to the end, instead of disapearing, it just starts over, and does it again, and again, and again, and again, getting a little slower with each iteration. Five hours later, it was still trying to do its thing. This has to be some kind of bug, but is there a fix? Bill From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon May 16 07:32:32 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 09:32:32 +0200 Subject: Updating from 8.04 LTS -- incrementally or jump or not at all? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD0D310.8000309@gmail.com> On 14/05/2011 22:25, h.stencil at verizon.net wrote: > One older machine on my home net has been running flawlwssly > for years, using the KDE3.5 desktop and Kubuntu 8.04. I > gather that KDE4 has pretty much got past its teething > problems, and I'd like to bring this box up to date. > > Should I... > > -incrementally update, issue by issue? > > -incrementally update, using only LTS issues? > > -jump update, directly to 11.04? > > -leave it the hell alone? I would look at the Trinity project that keeps an updated KDE3 version going. I use it on older hardware and have no problems. KDE4 is too heavy for say P4 with 512 Mb RAM - in my opinion. Even if you switch off desktop effects and kill file indexing. http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ From dotancohen at gmail.com Mon May 16 07:47:20 2011 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:47:20 +0300 Subject: Opening Nautilus changes KDE plasma desktop to Gnome desktop In-Reply-To: <4D46E6D3.7050107@prayingforisrael.net> References: <201012282111.46162.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> <201012290013.24154.isak.enstrom@gmail.com> <4D46E6D3.7050107@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 18:44, Nigel Ridley wrote: > Could you share exactly what you did -- I'm going to install Ubuntu 10.10, > then kubuntu-desktop (to overcome sound issues) on my daughter's box and I > don't want her to accidentally open Nautilus....... > Nigel, I just now noticed you post. I put this script in my user's bin: ✈demios:~$ cat /home/dotancohen/.bin/nautilus #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/nautilus --no-desktop --browser "$@" Of course, ~/.bin is in my path and the script is executable. Note, however, that it cannot be opened with Krunner (the Alt-F2 dialogue): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263883 -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From john_re at fastmail.us Mon May 16 07:43:09 2011 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 00:43:09 -0700 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre Message-ID: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> In recent KUbuntu releases, there have been problems reported with using a system based on installing KUbuntu directly - perhaps to some system services, like sound, network manager, wifi, apt-updating, or the file system tools. Some people had reported more success by installing Ubuntu, then adding on the KDE system. [Although, that also creates some (minor?) problems, like unnecessary extra duplicative sw installed, extra start menu categories/items, etc.] Now that 11.04 has been out a while, & has had a chance to stabilize a bit more, has information been collected about these issues wrt this latest release? == For a system that will be used only with the KDE (ie not Ubuntu default = GNOME/Unity) desktop: What are the 1) Advantages, & 2) Disadvantages to creating a KDE system in Ubuntu 11.04 using the two approaches: A) Install KUbuntu directly, versus B) Install Ubuntu, then add in the KDE system? Has anyone tried both ways, & tested them out? = Thirdly, for a quad core desktop system 8 GB RAM 2 x - Two (2) TB (= 4TB total) disk drives to be used for home / office / SW_Development tasks, 3) What is your _recommendation_, given the relative advantages & disadvantages, of the choice to use in installing the system, method A or B? Thanks. :) == Join in the Global monthly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ Smartphone Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon May 16 15:14:27 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:27 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2011 In-Reply-To: References: <81db2e397a8e73b7a1af95847773c452.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com> Message-ID: <201105161114.27671.ubuntu@kitterman.com> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > The Kubuntu Council is a group of 6 Kubuntu Members who get to vote on > membership of Kubuntu Members and occasionally other decisions regarding > Kubuntu. > > Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year appointment so we > need to hold elections for the open positions to the council. This > could be you! If you are a Kubuntu Member and are willing to turn up to > Kubuntu meetings as much as possible for the next couple of years do > consider putting your name forward. > > We are particularly encouraging non-developers to put their name forward, > as we feel that a less development focused council would be beneficial > for the Kubuntu community. I'm quite pleased to see we've had non-developer nominations (more welcome). I also think the current active council members are doing a good job, so I'd like to nominate Harald Sitter (apachelogger) and Jonothan Thomas (JontheEchidna). They've each confirmed willingness to participate in the election and serve if re-elected. Scott K From jussi01 at ubuntu.com Mon May 16 15:35:42 2011 From: jussi01 at ubuntu.com (Jussi Schultink) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:35:42 +0300 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2011 In-Reply-To: <2033237.lNMZRonRnM@atlantis> References: <81db2e397a8e73b7a1af95847773c452.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com> <201105161114.27671.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <2033237.lNMZRonRnM@atlantis> Message-ID: Hi all, On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Roderick B. Greening wrote: > On Monday, May 16, 2011 11:14:27 AM Scott Kitterman wrote: >> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Scott Kitterman >> >> wrote: >> > The Kubuntu Council is a group of 6 Kubuntu Members who get to vote on >> > membership of Kubuntu Members and occasionally other decisions regarding >> > Kubuntu. >> > >> > Half the council is nearing the end of their 2 year appointment so we >> > need to hold elections for the open positions to the council.  This >> > could be you! If you are a Kubuntu Member and are willing to turn up to >> > Kubuntu meetings as much as possible for the next couple of years do >> > consider putting your name forward. >> > >> > We are particularly encouraging non-developers to put their name >> > forward, >> > as we feel that a less development focused council would be beneficial >> > for the Kubuntu community. >> >> I'm quite pleased to see we've had non-developer nominations (more welcome). >> I also think the current active council members are doing a good job, so >> I'd like to nominate Harald Sitter (apachelogger) and Jonothan Thomas >> (JontheEchidna).  They've each confirmed willingness to participate in the >> election and serve if re-elected. >> >> Scott K > > I second that thought. > > :) I'd Like to nominate Terence Simpson for the KC, I've seen what he can do in governance on the IRCC, and he has a good understanding of the ecosystem, Kubuntu and the community. BR Jussi > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon May 16 16:12:04 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:12:04 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Elections 2011 In-Reply-To: References: <81db2e397a8e73b7a1af95847773c452.squirrel@sm.webmail.pair.com> <2033237.lNMZRonRnM@atlantis> Message-ID: <201105161212.04962.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Monday, May 16, 2011 11:35:42 AM Jussi Schultink wrote: > Hi all, ... > I'd Like to nominate Terence Simpson for the KC, I've seen what he can > do in governance on the IRCC, and he has a good understanding of the > ecosystem, Kubuntu and the community. .. Did you check with Terence to see if he's willing? Scott K From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon May 16 16:34:23 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:34:23 -0600 Subject: CPU monitor plasmoid changed style of display Message-ID: <4DD1520F.2000908@gmail.com> I've been running the CPU monitor in my taskbar since getting natty working. Until today, its display was the same size as, for example, the network monitor, and its tooltip would display the precise CPU percentage in use. As far as I know I have changed nothing, but this morning its display is now about twice as wide as before, and the CPU percentage is permanently visible superimposed on the graphical display (the tooltip still behaves as it did before). I can't find any setting to control this kind of display behaviour and I have no idea why it is suddenly different from how it's looked for the past few days. Does anyone know how to control this behaviour? I'm not sure which of the two displays I prefer, but I'd sure like to know how to switch between them in a controlled manner so I can see which I end up preferring. 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I asked him to drop a mail to the list or to me. regards, Princess Butterfly From pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org Mon May 16 17:07:31 2011 From: pastor_jw at the-inner-circle.org (Pastor JW) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:07:31 -0700 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre In-Reply-To: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> On Monday, May 16, 2011 12:43:09 am giovanni_re wrote: > In recent KUbuntu releases, there have been problems reported with using > a system based on installing KUbuntu directly - > perhaps to some system services, like sound, network manager, wifi, > apt-updating, or the file system tools. Some people had reported more > success by installing Ubuntu, then adding on the KDE system. > > [Although, that also creates some (minor?) problems, like unnecessary > extra duplicative sw installed, extra start menu categories/items, etc.] > > Now that 11.04 has been out a while, & has had a chance to stabilize a > bit more, has information been collected about these issues wrt this > latest release? > > > == > For a system that will be used only with the KDE (ie not Ubuntu default > = GNOME/Unity) desktop: > > What are the > 1) Advantages, & > 2) Disadvantages > > to creating a KDE system in Ubuntu 11.04 using the two approaches: > A) Install KUbuntu directly, versus > B) Install Ubuntu, then add in the KDE system? > > Has anyone tried both ways, & tested them out? We have found "B" to work the best all around and it allows you the use of synaptic package manager which is by far the easiest to use. Also this way allows your sound to work easier, (add pavucontol) ...AND allows you the use of anything gnome you like in your KDE platform. This way also allows you to use the recommended gnome tested upgrades when that time comes. I really can't think of any disadvantages other that using slightly more space on your drive, however, you can install THREE flavors of Ubuntu in the space need by a basic windoze install!!! The other flavor we use around here is the Xfce- desktop. Ubuntu still is the base engine for any of these desktops. Duplication is perhaps a very minor disadvantage but you will find your favorites to use. Actually, the freedom to pick and choose is a basic plank in the Linux systems platform and I for one do not want to see that freedom removed! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org _Registered Kubuntu User: #27403 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Mon May 16 17:32:32 2011 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:32:32 +0300 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre In-Reply-To: <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <4DD15FB0.3080403@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/16/2011 08:07 PM, Pastor JW wrote: > On Monday, May 16, 2011 12:43:09 am giovanni_re wrote: >> In recent KUbuntu releases, there have been problems reported with using >> a system based on installing KUbuntu directly - >> perhaps to some system services, like sound, network manager, wifi, >> apt-updating, or the file system tools. Some people had reported more >> success by installing Ubuntu, then adding on the KDE system. >> >> [Although, that also creates some (minor?) problems, like unnecessary >> extra duplicative sw installed, extra start menu categories/items, etc.] >> >> Now that 11.04 has been out a while,& has had a chance to stabilize a >> bit more, has information been collected about these issues wrt this >> latest release? >> >> >> == >> For a system that will be used only with the KDE (ie not Ubuntu default >> = GNOME/Unity) desktop: >> >> What are the >> 1) Advantages,& >> 2) Disadvantages >> >> to creating a KDE system in Ubuntu 11.04 using the two approaches: >> A) Install KUbuntu directly, versus >> B) Install Ubuntu, then add in the KDE system? >> >> Has anyone tried both ways,& tested them out? > > We have found "B" to work the best all around and it allows you the use of > synaptic package manager which is by far the easiest to use. Also this way > allows your sound to work easier, (add pavucontol) ...AND allows you the use > of anything gnome you like in your KDE platform. This way also allows you to > use the recommended gnome tested upgrades when that time comes. I really > can't think of any disadvantages other that using slightly more space on your > drive, however, you can install THREE flavors of Ubuntu in the space need by a > basic windoze install!!! The other flavor we use around here is the Xfce- > desktop. Ubuntu still is the base engine for any of these desktops. > Duplication is perhaps a very minor disadvantage but you will find your > favorites to use. Actually, the freedom to pick and choose is a basic plank > in the Linux systems platform and I for one do not want to see that freedom > removed! > One big disadvantage of installing Ubuntu then KDE is that if you 'accidentally' click on a 'help' button (I can't remember exactly) you then initiate Nautilus (or if you start Nautilus anyway) and it takes over your desktop. There is a workaround to disable Nautilus but I can't remember what it is. There was a thread titled: 'Opening Nautilus changes KDE plasma desktop to Gnome desktop' which has the workaround - although I'm not sure if it was a simple one or not. The other disadvantage is that with all the extra packages installed, every time one does an upgrade there are all those extra packages taking one's bandwidth and time. Just a couple of things to consider..... Nigel From art.alexion at gmail.com Mon May 16 20:39:10 2011 From: art.alexion at gmail.com (Art Alexion) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 16:39:10 -0400 Subject: Natty and wireless problems In-Reply-To: <201104301248.45902.kassube@gmx.net> References: <452242078.1963277.1304106584934.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <201104300719.52179.kassube@gmx.net> <201104301248.45902.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <39777AED-EAF9-4A1A-B2CB-88A1935D82E4@gmail.com> On Apr 30, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n >> Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) > > OK, that is a Broadcom card which should be supported (and actually you > wrote that it worked with 10.04) 11.04 trashed a lot of wireless adapters that worked fine in many previous versions. It seems to mostly affect Broadcom and Atheros (especially EeePC). Regressions like this are bad, especially when they affect such commonly deployed hardware. For my Atheros, the fix was UN-blackisting the atheros driver. Google it. There are many hits, mostly with Eee users. If you have trouble, please respond and I can give more specific info, not immediately available to me. From john_re at fastmail.us Tue May 17 04:56:54 2011 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:56:54 -0700 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre In-Reply-To: <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> References: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> Message-ID: <1305608214.21029.1452715441@webmail.messagingengine.com> Thanks JW :) On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:07:31 -0700, "Pastor JW" said: > On Monday, May 16, 2011 12:43:09 am giovanni_re wrote: > > == > > For a system that will be used only with the KDE (ie not Ubuntu default > > = GNOME/Unity) desktop: > > > > What are the > > 1) Advantages, & > > 2) Disadvantages > > > > to creating a KDE system in Ubuntu 11.04 using the two approaches: > > A) Install KUbuntu directly, versus > > B) Install Ubuntu, then add in the KDE system? > > > > Has anyone tried both ways, & tested them out? > > We have found "B" to work the best all around and it allows you the use > of > synaptic package manager which is by far the easiest to use. The spm is very useful. On the last install of this system, I installed KU 10.04, & then just apt added that in - saved me from having all the extra unnecessary GNOME stuff - it only added _some_ stuff. Also this > way > allows your sound to work easier, (add pavucontol) Yes, that's the main kind of thing I'm asking about here. I'm wondering if KU 11.04 is still missing some important functionality, like some sound stuff. Can I merely do a KU 11.04 install, then apt install pavucontrol? == Join in the Global monthly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ Smartphone Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone From john_re at fastmail.us Tue May 17 04:57:07 2011 From: john_re at fastmail.us (giovanni_re) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:57:07 -0700 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre In-Reply-To: <4DD15FB0.3080403@prayingforisrael.net> References: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <4DD15FB0.3080403@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <1305608227.21029.1452715465@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 16 May 2011 20:32:32 +0300, "Nigel Ridley" said: > On 05/16/2011 08:07 PM, Pastor JW wrote: > > On Monday, May 16, 2011 12:43:09 am giovanni_re wrote: > >> == > >> For a system that will be used only with the KDE (ie not Ubuntu default > >> = GNOME/Unity) desktop: > >> > >> What are the > >> 1) Advantages,& > >> 2) Disadvantages > >> > >> to creating a KDE system in Ubuntu 11.04 using the two approaches: > >> A) Install KUbuntu directly, versus > >> B) Install Ubuntu, then add in the KDE system? > >> > >> Has anyone tried both ways,& tested them out? > One big disadvantage of installing Ubuntu then KDE is that if you > 'accidentally' click on a > 'help' button (I can't remember exactly) you then initiate Nautilus (or > if you start Nautilus > anyway) and it takes over your desktop. There is a workaround to disable > Nautilus but I can't > remember what it is. > There was a thread titled: 'Opening Nautilus changes KDE plasma desktop > to Gnome desktop' which > has the workaround - although I'm not sure if it was a simple one or not. > > The other disadvantage is that with all the extra packages installed, > every time one does an > upgrade there are all those extra packages taking one's bandwidth and > time. Thanks Nigel :) Yes, those are disadvantages. ;) But, most importantly, as of 11.04, are there any significant _ad_vantages to method B? So, I'm guessing you, Nigel, don't see any advantage to method B, with KU 11.04? == Join in the Global monthly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW & Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ Smartphone Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue May 17 06:00:36 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 02:00:36 -0400 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre In-Reply-To: <1305608214.21029.1452715441@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <1305608214.21029.1452715441@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201105170200.37094.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:56:54 AM giovanni_re wrote: > Thanks JW :) > > On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:07:31 -0700, "Pastor JW" > > said: > > On Monday, May 16, 2011 12:43:09 am giovanni_re wrote: > > > == > > > For a system that will be used only with the KDE (ie not Ubuntu default > > > = GNOME/Unity) desktop: > > > > > > What are the > > > 1) Advantages, & > > > 2) Disadvantages > > > > > > to creating a KDE system in Ubuntu 11.04 using the two approaches: > > > A) Install KUbuntu directly, versus > > > B) Install Ubuntu, then add in the KDE system? > > > > > > Has anyone tried both ways, & tested them out? > > > > We have found "B" to work the best all around and it allows you the use > > of > > synaptic package manager which is by far the easiest to use. > > The spm is very useful. On the last install of this system, I installed > KU 10.04, & then just apt added that in - saved me from having all the > extra unnecessary GNOME stuff - it only added _some_ stuff. > > > Also this > > > way > > allows your sound to work easier, (add pavucontol) > > Yes, that's the main kind of thing I'm asking about here. I'm wondering > if KU 11.04 is still missing some important functionality, like some > sound stuff. > > Can I merely do a KU 11.04 install, then apt install pavucontrol? > > Installing Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu is a silly way to go, unless you want to have both desktops installed. If there is anything missing, it is much simpler to just install what you may need. For sound, pavucointrol is available as there is no KDE equivalent at the moment. Not everyone needs it, however. KPackagekit is underrated imo, and is my gui package manager of choice, though the new Muon is also an excellent KDE alternative - created by a Kubuntu developer no less. There is NO advantage whatsoever in doing "B" unless you want Gnome and KDE. Clay > == Join in the Global monthly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW & > Culture http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ > Smartphone Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 17 06:11:08 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:11:08 +0200 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre In-Reply-To: <1305608214.21029.1452715441@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <1305608214.21029.1452715441@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <201105170811.08669.kassube@gmx.net> giovanni_re wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:07:31 -0700, "Pastor JW" > said: > Also this > > way > > allows your sound to work easier, (add pavucontol) > > Yes, that's the main kind of thing I'm asking about here. I'm > wondering if KU 11.04 is still missing some important functionality, > like some sound stuff. > > Can I merely do a KU 11.04 install, then apt install pavucontrol? Yes, that should work. A friend of mine who needed pavucontrol to make skype work only installed that package. Actually I don't see an advantage of installing Ubuntu first and adding kubuntu-desktop later, but I can only speek about 2 Kubuntu systems which were upgraded past Lucid. OTOH, when I wanted to try out Unity (the new Ubuntu desktop for Natty), it wasn't enough to add the ubuntu-desktop package. That seems to be a bit more complicated nowadays. Nils From ingolf.steinbach at googlemail.com Tue May 17 06:33:37 2011 From: ingolf.steinbach at googlemail.com (Ingolf Steinbach) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:33:37 +0200 Subject: Update 10.04 -> 10.04.2 recommended? Message-ID: Hi, is a system running kubuntu 10.04 with the latest patches (via KPackageKit / auto update) equivalent to updating via the 10.04.2 live/install dvd? If not: what are the differences? Do you recomment updating with the 10.04.2 live/install dvd nevertheless? Thank you in advance. Ingolf From claydoh at claydoh.com Tue May 17 07:03:49 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 03:03:49 -0400 Subject: Update 10.04 -> 10.04.2 recommended? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105170303.49448.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 02:33:37 AM Ingolf Steinbach wrote: > Hi, > > is a system running kubuntu 10.04 with the latest patches (via > KPackageKit / auto update) equivalent to updating via the 10.04.2 > live/install dvd? If not: what are the differences? Do you recomment > updating with the 10.04.2 live/install dvd nevertheless? > > Thank you in advance. > > Ingolf The 10.04.2 is just an updated iso image wit all the latest updates included. You already have whatever is in 10.04.2 by keeping your system up to date. Clay From kassube at gmx.net Tue May 17 07:16:24 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:16:24 +0200 Subject: Update 10.04 -> 10.04.2 recommended? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105170916.24667.kassube@gmx.net> Ingolf Steinbach wrote: > is a system running kubuntu 10.04 with the latest patches (via > KPackageKit / auto update) equivalent to updating via the 10.04.2 > live/install dvd? Yes. The version 10.04.2 is only another edition of 10.04 which includes all the updates which were available at the time of release. And you can even check the file /etc/issue which should tell you that you already have 10.04.2 on your machine. Nils From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Tue May 17 09:20:54 2011 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:20:54 +0300 Subject: 11.04: KUbuntu vs Ubuntu_+_KDE - (Dis- &) Advantages ; gre In-Reply-To: <1305608227.21029.1452715465@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1305531789.30548.1452294213@webmail.messagingengine.com> <201105161007.31733.pastor_jw@the-inner-circle.org> <4DD15FB0.3080403@prayingforisrael.net> <1305608227.21029.1452715465@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4DD23DF6.1000805@prayingforisrael.net> On 05/17/2011 07:57 AM, giovanni_re wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2011 20:32:32 +0300, "Nigel Ridley" > said: >> On 05/16/2011 08:07 PM, Pastor JW wrote: >>> On Monday, May 16, 2011 12:43:09 am giovanni_re wrote: > >>>> == >>>> For a system that will be used only with the KDE (ie not Ubuntu default >>>> = GNOME/Unity) desktop: >>>> >>>> What are the >>>> 1) Advantages,& >>>> 2) Disadvantages >>>> >>>> to creating a KDE system in Ubuntu 11.04 using the two approaches: >>>> A) Install KUbuntu directly, versus >>>> B) Install Ubuntu, then add in the KDE system? >>>> >>>> Has anyone tried both ways,& tested them out? > >> One big disadvantage of installing Ubuntu then KDE is that if you >> 'accidentally' click on a >> 'help' button (I can't remember exactly) you then initiate Nautilus (or >> if you start Nautilus >> anyway) and it takes over your desktop. There is a workaround to disable >> Nautilus but I can't >> remember what it is. >> There was a thread titled: 'Opening Nautilus changes KDE plasma desktop >> to Gnome desktop' which >> has the workaround - although I'm not sure if it was a simple one or not. >> >> The other disadvantage is that with all the extra packages installed, >> every time one does an >> upgrade there are all those extra packages taking one's bandwidth and >> time. > > Thanks Nigel :) > > Yes, those are disadvantages. ;) > > But, most importantly, as of 11.04, are there any significant > _ad_vantages to method B? > > So, I'm guessing you, Nigel, don't see any advantage to method B, with > KU 11.04? > > == Join in the Global monthly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW& Culture > http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/ > Smartphone Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone > > I actually did a Ubuntu then KDE install of 10.10 for my daughter to overcome the sound issues - but I warned her about opening Nautilus! So far so good...... So yes there are some advantages. Nigel From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Tue May 17 17:41:01 2011 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 19:41:01 +0200 Subject: 11.04: rsyslog.conf: no kernel messages on tty12 anymore Message-ID: <201105171941.01511.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> Hi All, until kubuntu 10.10, I had kernel messages (error and the like) on /tty/12. For this to function, the entry in /etc/rsyslog.conf looked like this: daemon,mail.*;\ news.=crit;news.=err;news.=notice;\ *.=debug;*.=info;\ *.=notice;*.=warn /dev/tty12 Somehow, since I upgraded to 11.04, this feature doesn't work anymore. Is here anybody in (K)Ubuntu-userland who knows what's the problem here? (unfortunately, this problem is unknown to the Google search engine) Thanks for any help, Ulrich ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Eyes serve two purposes: to see with and to wheep with, but certainly not to judge with. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø http://www.santodaime.nl/ OS: Kubuntu 11.04 (Linux) From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue May 17 18:23:09 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:23:09 -0400 Subject: 11.04: rsyslog.conf: no kernel messages on tty12 anymore In-Reply-To: <201105171941.01511.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> References: <201105171941.01511.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105171423.10012.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011, Ulrich Grün wrote: > Somehow, since I upgraded to 11.04, this feature doesn't work anymore. > > Is here anybody in (K)Ubuntu-userland who knows what's the problem here? > > (unfortunately, this problem is unknown to the Google search engine) > Check in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf Looks like it is on /dev/tty8 now From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Tue May 17 18:39:27 2011 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 20:39:27 +0200 Subject: 11.04: rsyslog.conf: no kernel messages on tty12 anymore In-Reply-To: <201105171423.10012.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201105171941.01511.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> <201105171423.10012.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201105172039.27820.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> Also schrieb Bruce Marshall am Dienstag, 17. Mai 2011 20:23:09: > On Tuesday, May 17, 2011, Ulrich Grün wrote: > > Somehow, since I upgraded to 11.04, this feature doesn't work anymore. > > > > Is here anybody in (K)Ubuntu-userland who knows what's the problem here? > > > > (unfortunately, this problem is unknown to the Google search engine) > > Check in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf > > > Looks like it is on /dev/tty8 now In /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, the entry is uncommented. I have put my entry there, as well as in /etc/rsyslog.conf. It doesn't work. -- Namastè, X Ulrich X X ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Eyes serve two purposes: to see with and to wheep with, but certainly not to judge with. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø http://www.santodaime.nl/ OS: Kubuntu 11.04 (Linux) From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Tue May 17 19:17:18 2011 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:17:18 -0400 Subject: 11.04: rsyslog.conf: no kernel messages on tty12 anymore In-Reply-To: <201105172039.27820.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> References: <201105171941.01511.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> <201105171423.10012.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> <201105172039.27820.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105171517.18418.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> On Tuesday, May 17, 2011, Ulrich Grün wrote: > > Looks like it is on /dev/tty8 now > > > In /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, the entry is uncommented. I have put my entry > there, as well as in /etc/rsyslog.conf. > It doesn't work. Did you restart rsyslogd?? From ulrich.gruen at gmail.com Tue May 17 19:39:41 2011 From: ulrich.gruen at gmail.com (Ulrich =?iso-8859-1?q?Gr=FCn?=) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:39:41 +0200 Subject: 11.04: rsyslog.conf: no kernel messages on tty12 anymore In-Reply-To: <201105171517.18418.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> References: <201105171941.01511.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> <201105172039.27820.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> <201105171517.18418.bmarsh@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <201105172139.41582.ulrich.gruen@gmail.com> Also schrieb Bruce Marshall am Dienstag, 17. Mai 2011 21:17:18: > Did you restart rsyslogd?? I restarted my system. -- Namastè, X Ulrich X X ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Eyes serve two purposes: to see with and to wheep with, but certainly not to judge with. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø http://www.santodaime.nl/ OS: Kubuntu 11.04 (Linux) From basroufs at gmail.com Tue May 17 19:59:08 2011 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 21:59:08 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Firefox_4=2E01_in_Kubuntu_11=2E04=3A_no_=C2=A8dead=C2=A8_keys=2C_no_?= =?UTF-8?Q?compose_key=2E?= Message-ID: Hello Everybody Recently some strange problem popped up in Firefox 4.01 inside Kubuntu 11.04: ¨dead keys¨ as well as the ¨ compose key¨ do not function any more in that specific application. As far as I can see, everything works well in ALL other applications, where I do get characters like é,à and â in a correct way: by typing e.g. ´ and than a. But, as I said, ¨dead¨ keys like ´, ¨, etc. do not function any more correctly inside one single, but often used application: Firefox. The same applies for characters produced by the so-called compose key: e.g. compose-s-s which produces ß. This happens still really everywhere at my 11.04 system, except inside Firefox 4.01. Does anybody know any way to instruct Firefox to use the same keyboard lay-out as in all other applications? Respectfully yours, Bas. -- ==================== *Bas G. Roufs* Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M./SMS +31 6 446 835 10 T. +31 30 785 2040 E. BasRoufs at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com Tue May 17 21:11:17 2011 From: lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com (Lorenzo Bettini) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:11:17 +0200 Subject: Compiz in Kubuntu Natty Message-ID: Hi after upgrading to kubuntu natty, compiz does not seem to work anymore... anyone experienced the same problem? thanks in advance Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Bettini, PhD in Computer Science, DI, Univ. Torino HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it MUSIC: http://www.purplesucker.com BLOGS: http://tronprog.blogspot.com http://longlivemusic.blogspot.com From clemhime2 at hotmail.ca Tue May 17 22:26:30 2011 From: clemhime2 at hotmail.ca (cori madden) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:26:30 -0400 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I cant get flash to work on either chrome or fire fox, after the last update it just doesnt register being there on either web browser, no crash report Just doesnt acnolegde it being there any help would be appreciated I am extreamally frustrated with this, this has been the first time since 8.04 that theings broke for no reason after an update -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Wed May 18 01:53:39 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 04:53:39 +0300 Subject: Microphone Problem Message-ID: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> i'm having a very weird problem. i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i decided to give it a try. after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no NONE of the programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. i tried skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox and checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, yet... i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... this is really really confusing. anyone has any ideas? -- Waleed K. 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Sinclair) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 06:18:39 +0200 Subject: Microphone Problem In-Reply-To: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> References: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4DD3489F.80202@gmail.com> On 18/05/2011 03:53, Waleed Hamra wrote: > i'm having a very weird problem. > i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i > decided to give it a try. > after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i > need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high > enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so > basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming > from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no > NONE of the programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. > i tried skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox > and checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, > yet... i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... this > is really really confusing. > anyone has any ideas? > Try installing either pavucontrol or the veromix plasmoid and then play around with input channels. The Pulseaudio system is not yet well supported in KMix but depending on version is default in Kubuntu. I like veromix as it is "native kde" and can sit in the systray. I have basically replaced KMIx with Veromix. From tanghus at gmail.com Wed May 18 05:15:19 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:15:19 +0200 Subject: dirmngr eating CPU Message-ID: <201105180715.26790.tanghus@gmail.com> Recently dirmngr has started to suddenly sucking CPU cycles which is very annoying on my old single core CPU. Any suggestions to why this happens? Kleopatra, gnupg or something else? -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From tanghus at gmail.com Wed May 18 05:29:28 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:29:28 +0200 Subject: dirmngr eating CPU In-Reply-To: <201105180715.26790.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <201105180715.26790.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105180729.29271.tanghus@gmail.com> On Wednesday 18 May 2011 07:15:19 Thomas Olsen wrote: > Recently dirmngr has started to suddenly sucking CPU cycles which is very > annoying on my old single core CPU. > > Any suggestions to why this happens? Kleopatra, gnupg or something else? I forgot to mention: Kubuntu 10.10 KDE SC 4.6.2 Kontact 4.4.9 The process eating cycles is running under my ID, not as root, and with the --server argument. There is also a process running as root with arguments --daemon --sh but it behaves nicely. -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From tanghus at gmail.com Wed May 18 06:24:19 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:24:19 +0200 Subject: Newest flashplugin crashes nspluginviewer Message-ID: <201105180824.20475.tanghus@gmail.com> Yesterday there was an update with the non-free flashplugin. After that all flash content i KHTML crashes nspluginviewer. I never really figured out how to roll bck to a previous version. Help needed, pretty please... -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From basroufs at gmail.com Wed May 18 06:31:11 2011 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:31:11 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Firefox_4=2E01_in_Kubuntu_11=2E04=3A_no_=C2=A8dead=C2=A8_keys=2C_no_?= =?UTF-8?Q?compose_key=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Everybody Recently some strange problem popped up in Firefox 4.01 inside Kubuntu 11.04: ¨dead keys¨ as well as the ¨ compose key¨ do not function any more in that specific application. I use the keyboard lay out ¨ USA international with dead keys¨ . As far as I can see, everything works well in ALL other applications, where I do get characters like é,à and â in a correct way: by typing e.g. ´ and than a. But, as I said, ¨dead¨ keys like ´, ¨, etc. do not function any more correctly inside one single, but often used application: Firefox. The same applies for characters produced by the so-called compose key: e.g. compose-s-s which produces ß. This happens still really everywhere at my 11.04 system, except inside Firefox 4.01. Does anybody know any way to instruct Firefox to use the same keyboard lay-out as in all other applications? Respectfully yours, Bas. -- ==================== *Bas G. Roufs* Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M./SMS +31 6 446 835 10 T. +31 30 785 2040 E. BasRoufs at gmail.com -- ==================== *Bas G. Roufs* Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht M./SMS +31 6 446 835 10 T. +31 30 785 2040 E. BasRoufs at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Wed May 18 06:59:41 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 02:59:41 -0400 Subject: Firefox 4.01 in Kubuntu 11.04: no =?UTF-8?B?wqhkZWFkwqgga2V5?= =?UTF-8?B?cywgbm8gY29tcG9zZSBrZXku?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD36E5D.6060900@optonline.net> On 05/18/2011 02:31 AM, Bas Roufs wrote: > Hello Everybody > > Recently some strange problem popped up in Firefox 4.01 inside Kubuntu > 11.04: ¨dead keys¨ as well as the ¨ compose key¨ do not function any > more in that specific application. I use the keyboard lay out ¨ USA > international with dead keys¨ . As far as I can see, everything works > well in ALL other applications, where I do get characters like é,à > and â in a correct way: by typing e.g. ´ and than a. But, as I said, > ¨dead¨ keys like ´, ¨, etc. do not function any more correctly inside > one single, but often used application: Firefox. The same applies for > characters produced by the so-called compose key: e.g. compose-s-s > which produces ß. This happens still really everywhere at my 11.04 > system, except inside Firefox 4.01. > Does anybody know any way to instruct Firefox to use the same keyboard > lay-out as in all other applications? > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. I just opened FF 4.0.1 and in the Google entry space typed Straße, and it came out with the ess-tset just as I typed, using the key I have mapped to compose. This is in PCLos, kde 4.6.2. I don't have FF 4.01. AFAIK, my FF is up to date. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From tv.debian at googlemail.com Wed May 18 07:33:25 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:33:25 +0200 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD37645.9050805@googlemail.com> 18/05/2011 00:26, cori madden wrote: > I cant get flash to work on either chrome or fire fox, after the last > update it just doesnt register being there on either web browser, no > crash report Just doesnt acnolegde it being there > any help would be appreciated I am extreamally frustrated with this, > this has been the first time since 8.04 that theings broke for no reason > after an update > Hello, Are you talking about Kubuntu natty ? Which architecture : amd64, i386 ? From tv.debian at googlemail.com Wed May 18 07:37:24 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:37:24 +0200 Subject: Microphone Problem In-Reply-To: <4DD3489F.80202@gmail.com> References: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> <4DD3489F.80202@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DD37734.7010907@googlemail.com> 18/05/2011 06:18, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 18/05/2011 03:53, Waleed Hamra wrote: >> i'm having a very weird problem. >> i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i >> decided to give it a try. >> after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i >> need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high >> enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so >> basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming >> from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no >> NONE of the programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. >> i tried skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox >> and checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, >> yet... i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... this >> is really really confusing. >> anyone has any ideas? >> > Try installing either pavucontrol or the veromix plasmoid and then play > around with input channels. The Pulseaudio system is not yet well > supported in KMix but depending on version is default in Kubuntu. I like > veromix as it is "native kde" and can sit in the systray. I have > basically replaced KMIx with Veromix. > > > Or... ditch pulseaudio. I had endless problems after the natty upgrade, I removed pulseaudio, paid a visit to systemsettings "multimedia" settings, and sound started to work again (with phonon gstreamer backend). From tv.debian at googlemail.com Wed May 18 07:45:40 2011 From: tv.debian at googlemail.com (tv.debian at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:45:40 +0200 Subject: Newest flashplugin crashes nspluginviewer In-Reply-To: <201105180824.20475.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <201105180824.20475.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DD37924.9010105@googlemail.com> 18/05/2011 08:24, Thomas Olsen wrote: > Yesterday there was an update with the non-free flashplugin. After that all > flash content i KHTML crashes nspluginviewer. > I never really figured out how to roll bck to a previous version. > Help needed, pretty please... > Hi, if you are on amd64 and use google-talk plug-in, there is a known incompatibility with nsplugginwrapper. You have to choose between flash and google-talk, or use experimental flash64 "square" available from Adobe labs, or debian-multimedia experimental repository (I use this one, it works). If you want to revert to an older version, go directly to a repository URL and dig in the "pool" folder, you may be lucky. http://www.archive.canonical.com/pool/public/f/flashplugin-nonfree/ Hope it helps. From tanghus at gmail.com Wed May 18 08:33:41 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:33:41 +0200 Subject: Newest flashplugin crashes nspluginviewer In-Reply-To: <4DD37924.9010105@googlemail.com> References: <201105180824.20475.tanghus@gmail.com> <4DD37924.9010105@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <201105181033.42197.tanghus@gmail.com> On Wednesday 18 May 2011 09:45:40 tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: > 18/05/2011 08:24, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > Yesterday there was an update with the non-free flashplugin. After that > > all flash content i KHTML crashes nspluginviewer. > > I never really figured out how to roll bck to a previous version. > > Help needed, pretty please... > > Hi, if you are on amd64 and use google-talk plug-in, there is a known > incompatibility with nsplugginwrapper. You have to choose between flash > and google-talk, or use experimental flash64 "square" available from > Adobe labs, or debian-multimedia experimental repository (I use this > one, it works). I use neither. > If you want to revert to an older version, go directly to a repository > URL and dig in the "pool" folder, you may be lucky. > > http://www.archive.canonical.com/pool/public/f/flashplugin-nonfree/ It didn't quite work so I purged flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer and then installed http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.2.159.1-0maverick1_i386.deb Now I got flash in Konqui again :-) > Hope it helps. After a little fiddling around it did. Thanks for leading me in the right direction :-) -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From ketelaars at wanadoo.nl Wed May 18 09:23:17 2011 From: ketelaars at wanadoo.nl (Frans Ketelaars) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Microphone Problem References: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 May 2011 04:53:39 +0300, Waleed Hamra wrote: > i'm having a very weird problem. > i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i > decided to give it a try. > after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i > need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high > enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so > basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming > from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no NONE of the > programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. i tried > skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox and > checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, yet... > i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... this is > really really confusing. > anyone has any ideas? Note that in order to hear yourself from the microphone the audio hardware only has to route the analog signal from the microphone to the analog output. To record the audio to harddisk and such the analog signal from the microphone (also) must be routed to an analog to digital converter. ALSA uses terms like 'capture source' and 'capture volume' to indicate which analog signal at which volume should be sent to the A/D converter. In alsamixer F4 lets you see the capture controls. See 'man alsamixer'. Good luck! -Frans From bqz69 at telia.com Wed May 18 14:04:53 2011 From: bqz69 at telia.com (user1) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: kuickshow not showing thumbnail previews Message-ID: I am using kuickshow 4:3.5.9-3+lenny3 image browser - and 10.10 and 11.04 I like it because I can change brightness/contrast when watching images - some images are very dark. My problem is that kuickshow is not showning thumbnail previews. I have tried to change settings in konqueror but nothing helps? From clemhime2 at hotmail.ca Wed May 18 15:35:50 2011 From: clemhime2 at hotmail.ca (cori madden) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:35:50 -0400 Subject: no flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have amd 64 and tis Kubuntu natty (regaurding flash not working in the browsers) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From knot.tomas at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:10:13 2011 From: knot.tomas at gmail.com (Tomas Knot) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:10:13 +0200 Subject: no flash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2011/5/18 cori madden : > I have amd 64 and tis Kubuntu natty (regaurding flash not working in the > browsers) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I had same problem but I have resolved. You have to uninstall adobe flash plugin. Then you run Firefox and go to for example youtube. You can see that flash plugin does'nt install. Firefox runs banner for install plugins. You install adobe flash throught this banner. Tom From jonorland at gmail.com Wed May 18 16:14:11 2011 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:14:11 +0200 Subject: Compiz in Kubuntu Natty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2011/5/17 Lorenzo Bettini : > Hi > > after upgrading to kubuntu natty, compiz does not seem to work anymore... > > anyone experienced the same problem? > > thanks in advance >        Lorenzo I don't know much about Compiz and KDE. Are there a special reason you don't use KDE's own window manager? / Jonas From jlwallen at monkeypantz.net Wed May 18 16:17:13 2011 From: jlwallen at monkeypantz.net (jack wallen) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:17:13 -0400 Subject: Compiz in Kubuntu Natty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6a28ff5400d8e417a549353a8f062eec.squirrel@monkeypantz.net> > 2011/5/17 Lorenzo Bettini : >> Hi >> >> after upgrading to kubuntu natty, compiz does not seem to work >> anymore... >> >> anyone experienced the same problem? >> KDE 4.6 (and some earlier versions) has it's own compositor built in that offers the same functions as compiz and works very seamlessly. >> thanks in advance >>        Lorenzo > > I don't know much about Compiz and KDE. Are there a special reason you > don't use KDE's own window manager? > > / Jonas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- jack wallen, jr writer: Linux.com, techrepublic.com, ghacks.net, check out my novels on smashwords: http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/jackwallen From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Wed May 18 22:27:11 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 01:27:11 +0300 Subject: Microphone Problem In-Reply-To: <4DD37734.7010907@googlemail.com> References: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> <4DD3489F.80202@gmail.com> <4DD37734.7010907@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4DD447BF.4000400@whamra.com> On 05/18/2011 10:37 AM, tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: > 18/05/2011 06:18, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 18/05/2011 03:53, Waleed Hamra wrote: >>> i'm having a very weird problem. >>> i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i >>> decided to give it a try. >>> after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i >>> need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high >>> enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so >>> basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming >>> from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no >>> NONE of the programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. >>> i tried skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox >>> and checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, >>> yet... i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... this >>> is really really confusing. >>> anyone has any ideas? >>> >> Try installing either pavucontrol or the veromix plasmoid and then play >> around with input channels. The Pulseaudio system is not yet well >> supported in KMix but depending on version is default in Kubuntu. I like >> veromix as it is "native kde" and can sit in the systray. I have >> basically replaced KMIx with Veromix. >> >> >> > Or... ditch pulseaudio. I had endless problems after the natty upgrade, > I removed pulseaudio, paid a visit to systemsettings "multimedia" > settings, and sound started to work again (with phonon gstreamer backend). > no pulseaudio here :) i ditched it long ago. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See 'man alsamixer'. > > Good luck! > > -Frans > > yes, i do see them, i have "Capture" and "Capture 1", both are checked to capture, and with max level. i have something called "digital", also maxed. there's 2 "Input Source" things, they are set to "Mic", the other option is "Front Mic", but i don't use that. -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From richard at underpope.com Wed May 18 22:35:54 2011 From: richard at underpope.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:35:54 -0700 Subject: Microphone Problem In-Reply-To: <4DD447BF.4000400@whamra.com> References: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> <4DD3489F.80202@gmail.com> <4DD37734.7010907@googlemail.com> <4DD447BF.4000400@whamra.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 05/18/2011 10:37 AM, tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: > > 18/05/2011 06:18, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On 18/05/2011 03:53, Waleed Hamra wrote: > >>> i'm having a very weird problem. > >>> i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i > >>> decided to give it a try. > >>> after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i > >>> need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high > >>> enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so > >>> basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming > >>> from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no > >>> NONE of the programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. > >>> i tried skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox > >>> and checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, > >>> yet... i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... > this > >>> is really really confusing. > >>> anyone has any ideas? > >>> > >> Try installing either pavucontrol or the veromix plasmoid and then play > >> around with input channels. The Pulseaudio system is not yet well > >> supported in KMix but depending on version is default in Kubuntu. I like > >> veromix as it is "native kde" and can sit in the systray. I have > >> basically replaced KMIx with Veromix. > >> > >> > >> > > Or... ditch pulseaudio. I had endless problems after the natty upgrade, > > I removed pulseaudio, paid a visit to systemsettings "multimedia" > > settings, and sound started to work again (with phonon gstreamer > backend). > > > > no pulseaudio here :) i ditched it long ago. I admit that I'm baffled as to why PulseAudio continues to be shipped with Kubuntu. It's never caused me anything but grief, and I always have to remove it before I can get sound working on my system. > -- Sláinte, Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Łukasz From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu May 19 09:40:48 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 02:40:48 -0700 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Firefox_4=2E01_in_Kubuntu_11=2E04=3A_no_=A8dead=A8_keys=2C?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_no_compose_key=2E?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bas Roufs wrote: > Hello Everybody > > Recently some strange problem popped up in Firefox 4.01 inside Kubuntu > 11.04: ¨dead keys¨  as well as the ¨ compose key¨ do not function any more > in that specific application. As far as I can see, everything works well in > ALL other applications, where I do get characters like é,à  and â in a > correct way: by typing e.g. ´ and than a. But, as I said, ¨dead¨  keys like > ´, ¨, etc. do not function any more correctly inside one single, but often > used application: Firefox. The same applies for characters produced by the > so-called compose key: e.g. compose-s-s which produces ß. This happens still > really everywhere at my 11.04 system, except inside Firefox 4.01. > Does anybody know any way to instruct Firefox to use the same keyboard > lay-out as in all other applications? > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas. I've had a related problem ever since KDE 4.6.2, and it continues in 4.6.3, which came along with Kubuntu 11.04. No right-click in Firefox! FF 4.0 didn't fix it, and neither did the recent update to 4.0.1. I googled for awhile, and tried the fix I found on the web, which is go to the advanced javascript settings, and uncheck "Disable or replace context menus." No change. This makes FF almost unusable. Valorie -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez From basroufs at gmail.com Thu May 19 11:34:37 2011 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:34:37 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Firefox_4=2E01_in_Kubuntu_11=2E04=3A_no_=C2=A8dead=C2=A8_keys=2C?= =?UTF-8?Q?_no_compose_key=2E?= In-Reply-To: <4DD36E5D.6060900@optonline.net> References: <4DD36E5D.6060900@optonline.net> Message-ID: Hello everybody Thanks for the input that has come in so far in this thread: >> Recently some strange problem popped up in Firefox 4.01 inside Kubuntu >> 11.04: ¨dead keys¨  as well as the ¨ compose key¨ do not function any more >> in that specific application. ......... With respect to this feedback: > I just opened FF 4.0.1 and in the Google entry space typed Straße, and it > came out with the ess-tset just as I typed, > using the key I have mapped to compose.  This is in PCLos, kde 4.6.2.  I > don't have FF 4.01.  AFAIK, my FF is up to date. A few minutes ago, I carried out your ¨Straße¨ test in a few applications. It DOES work in LibreOffice, Kontact and even in e.g. Konsole. However, it does NOT work in Firefox. So, I am wondering what difference there is between your and my configuration. My configuration: Kubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwal) along with KDE 4.6.2 and Firefox 4.01, which is the latest update from the regular repository. My PC is a netbook: Eee PC 1001 HA. Main specs: 250 GB HD, 1 GB DDR2 SDRAM, cache 512 MB L2 cache, processor 1,66 GhZ. > I've had a related problem ever since KDE 4.6.2, and it continues in > 4.6.3, which came along with Kubuntu 11.04. No right-click in Firefox! > FF 4.0 didn't fix it, and neither did the recent update to 4.0.1. This is weird. In my case, right-click in Firefox 4.01 DOES work. A context menu pops up, with i.a. a language spell check language selector. Also the distro and and KDE version I am using are the same: Kubuntu 11.04 along with KDE 4.6.2. However it may be, I still did not find any workaround enabling me to instruct Firefox to follow the same keyboard lay out and compose key settings as elsewhere in the system. Respectfully yours, Bas. -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT  Utrecht M./SMS +31 6 446 835 10 T. +31 30 785 2040 E. BasRoufs at gmail.com From lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com Thu May 19 12:28:29 2011 From: lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com (Lorenzo Bettini) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:28:29 +0200 Subject: Compiz in Kubuntu Natty In-Reply-To: <6a28ff5400d8e417a549353a8f062eec.squirrel@monkeypantz.net> References: <6a28ff5400d8e417a549353a8f062eec.squirrel@monkeypantz.net> Message-ID: On 05/18/2011 06:17 PM, jack wallen wrote: >> 2011/5/17 Lorenzo Bettini: >>> Hi >>> >>> after upgrading to kubuntu natty, compiz does not seem to work >>> anymore... >>> >>> anyone experienced the same problem? >>> > > KDE 4.6 (and some earlier versions) has it's own compositor built in that > offers the same functions as compiz and works very seamlessly. > actually Compiz works better than KDE effects; I can't tell this on kubuntu natty since, as I said, compiz is not working; but in kubuntu maverik compiz worked very well, while KDE built in effects were slow and they were using CPU much more... even in this kubuntu natty, KDE's built in effects do not work very smoothly... -- Lorenzo Bettini, PhD in Computer Science, DI, Univ. Torino HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it MUSIC: http://www.purplesucker.com BLOGS: http://tronprog.blogspot.com http://longlivemusic.blogspot.com From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu May 19 15:59:00 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:59:00 -0600 Subject: Problems with natty kontact and calendars Message-ID: <4DD53E44.1000305@gmail.com> Since the update to natty destroyed all my settings, I've been trying to rebuild everything back the way it used to be (more or less). I'm now trying to configure Kontact, but have hit a problem. I imported a remote calendar (using webdav), but there are several problems (probably all with a single cause): 1. Events on the calendar display OK, but the calendar seems to be read-only; 2. There seems to be no way to synchronise the remote calendar 3. There seems to be no way to remove the remote calendar from Kontact. It used to be that my calendars were displayed in a panel in the bottom left kontact panel, which would allow me to control each calendar easily. But that no longer seems to be true (I can't find anywhere where the remote calendar is listed anywhere -- I thought that maybe Settings | Sidebar | Show Calendar Manager would be the secret, but that doesn't seem to change anything at all on the display). The Help suggests that Settings → Sidebar → Show Resource View and Settings → Sidebar → Show Resource Buttons need to be checked... but those options simply don't exist under Settings → Sidebar :-( Any help greatly appreciated. (All this worked fine before the natty upgrade.) Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There seems to be no way to remove the remote calendar from Kontact. > > It used to be that my calendars were displayed in a panel in the bottom > left kontact panel, which would allow me to control each calendar easily. > But that no longer seems to be true (I can't find anywhere where the remote > calendar is listed anywhere -- I thought that maybe Settings | Sidebar | > Show Calendar Manager would be the secret, but that doesn't seem to change > anything at all on the display). > > The Help suggests that Settings → Sidebar → Show Resource View and > Settings → Sidebar → Show Resource Buttons need to be checked... but those > options simply don't exist under Settings → Sidebar :-( > > Any help greatly appreciated. (All this worked fine before the natty > upgrade.) > > Doc I haven't upgraded to Natty but try to look under System Settings/Common Appearance and Behavior/Personal Information/Calendar. Not very intuitive to change "Configure KDE resources" to "Personal Information" :-/ I always use akonadiconsole when I need to reconfigure the resources. -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From bob58523 at hotmail.com Thu May 19 17:09:01 2011 From: bob58523 at hotmail.com (Bob Schmidt) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 20:09:01 +0300 Subject: new to list with a problem Message-ID: Hi All, I am new to kubuntu and to the list. I installed 11.04 x64 on an hp dv9260. Everything works great except for flashplayer. I installed the flashplayer installer, and ran about:plugin in firefox, nothing. I uninstalled flashplayer-installer and reinstalled it, nothing. Has anyone else had this problem? thanks, Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Done E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-retricted E: Unable to locate package extras Is there something else I need to do first? thanks, Bob Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:21:26 +0000 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: new to list with a problem install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras" >From the CL: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-retricted extras Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:09:01 PM Subject: new to list with a problem Hi All, I am new to kubuntu and to the list. I installed 11.04 x64 on an hp dv9260. Everything works great except for flashplayer. I installed the flashplayer installer, and ran about:plugin in firefox, nothing. I uninstalled flashplayer-installer and reinstalled it, nothing. Has anyone else had this problem? thanks, Bob -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 19 17:57:11 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: <1145968032.666284.1305827776317.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <393376236.666331.1305827830997.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Obviously an internet connection. Open "System Settings", then "Software Management" Click "Settings" section Then make sure the repositories with "restricted" in the name are selected. Click the "Apply" button Click the "Software Updates" section. Click "Check for new Updates" Click the "Get and Remove Software" section Search on the aforementioned package, select it an install it. Alternatively, once you apply the restricted repositories, close System Settings and from the CL sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:45:16 PM Subject: RE: new to list with a problem Ok... now I'm going to show my ignorance, I did as you said and I get: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-retricted E: Unable to locate package extras Is there something else I need to do first? thanks, Bob Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:21:26 +0000 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: new to list with a problem install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras" >From the CL: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-retricted extras Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:09:01 PM Subject: new to list with a problem Hi All, I am new to kubuntu and to the list. I installed 11.04 x64 on an hp dv9260. Everything works great except for flashplayer. I installed the flashplayer installer, and ran about:plugin in firefox, nothing. I uninstalled flashplayer-installer and reinstalled it, nothing. 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URL: From kassube at gmx.net Thu May 19 18:06:06 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 20:06:06 +0200 Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: References: <415721607.663721.1305825588788.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1749957842.663860.1305825686767.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <201105192006.07018.kassube@gmx.net> Bob Schmidt wrote: > Ok... now I'm going to show my ignorance, I did as you said and I > get: > > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-retricted > E: Unable to locate package extras It should be "kubuntu-retricted-extras" (no space). Nils From bob58523 at hotmail.com Thu May 19 18:12:04 2011 From: bob58523 at hotmail.com (Bob Schmidt) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:12:04 +0300 Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: <393376236.666331.1305827830997.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1145968032.666284.1305827776317.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>, <393376236.666331.1305827830997.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: thanks for your help.... but I did everything you mentioned, and it tells me that those packages are already installed? But I still don't have any flash on websites. Any other ideas? thanks, bob Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:57:11 +0000 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: new to list with a problem Obviously an internet connection. Open "System Settings", then "Software Management" Click "Settings" section Then make sure the repositories with "restricted" in the name are selected. Click the "Apply" button Click the "Software Updates" section. Click "Check for new Updates" Click the "Get and Remove Software" section Search on the aforementioned package, select it an install it. Alternatively, once you apply the restricted repositories, close System Settings and from the CL sudo apt-get updatesudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras Paul----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:45:16 PM Subject: RE: new to list with a problem Ok... now I'm going to show my ignorance, I did as you said and I get: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-retricted E: Unable to locate package extras Is there something else I need to do first? thanks, Bob Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:21:26 +0000 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: new to list with a problem install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras" >From the CL: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-retricted extras Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:09:01 PM Subject: new to list with a problem Hi All, I am new to kubuntu and to the list. I installed 11.04 x64 on an hp dv9260. Everything works great except for flashplayer. I installed the flashplayer installer, and ran about:plugin in firefox, nothing. I uninstalled flashplayer-installer and reinstalled it, nothing. Has anyone else had this problem? thanks, Bob -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu May 19 18:27:18 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:27:18 -0600 Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD56106.2040100@gmail.com> Bob Schmidt said the following at 05/19/2011 11:09 AM : > > Hi All, > > I am new to kubuntu and to the list. I installed 11.04 x64 on an hp > dv9260. Everything works great except for flashplayer. I installed the > flashplayer installer, and ran about:plugin in firefox, nothing. I > uninstalled flashplayer-installer and reinstalled it, nothing. Has > anyone else had this problem? Starting a couple of days ago, it seems that flash on amd64 isn't working (at least, there have been a couple of posts here that suggest that, and it's also suddenly not working on my main system either). A couple of workarounds have been posted here, but unless you're desperate you might want to wait two or three days in the hope that this problem is fixed and an update released. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu May 19 18:45:55 2011 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: <1179398793.669795.1305830730921.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1444642796.669827.1305830755614.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Those are the only two packages I have installed and flash works. You might try completely removing the plugin-installer package. sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer then reinstall If that fails, you could try rebooting, but I doubt that will do anything... Could this be a firefox problem and not a system problem? Does flash work in rekonq or chromium? (purge and reinstall?) What about a user specific problem? Create a new user and see if flash works for that user. P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:12:04 PM Subject: RE: new to list with a problem thanks for your help.... but I did everything you mentioned, and it tells me that those packages are already installed? But I still don't have any flash on websites. Any other ideas? thanks, bob Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:57:11 +0000 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: new to list with a problem Obviously an internet connection. Open "System Settings", then "Software Management" Click "Settings" section Then make sure the repositories with "restricted" in the name are selected. Click the "Apply" button Click the "Software Updates" section. Click "Check for new Updates" Click the "Get and Remove Software" section Search on the aforementioned package, select it an install it. Alternatively, once you apply the restricted repositories, close System Settings and from the CL sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:45:16 PM Subject: RE: new to list with a problem Ok... now I'm going to show my ignorance, I did as you said and I get: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package kubuntu-retricted E: Unable to locate package extras Is there something else I need to do first? thanks, Bob Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 17:21:26 +0000 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: new to list with a problem install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras" >From the CL: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-retricted extras Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Schmidt" To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:09:01 PM Subject: new to list with a problem Hi All, I am new to kubuntu and to the list. I installed 11.04 x64 on an hp dv9260. Everything works great except for flashplayer. I installed the flashplayer installer, and ran about:plugin in firefox, nothing. I uninstalled flashplayer-installer and reinstalled it, nothing. Has anyone else had this problem? thanks, Bob -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Thu May 19 19:25:28 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 13:25:28 -0600 Subject: Problems with natty kontact and calendars In-Reply-To: <201105191902.26958.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <4DD53E44.1000305@gmail.com> <201105191902.26958.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DD56EA8.8090009@gmail.com> Thomas Olsen said the following at 05/19/2011 11:02 AM : > > I haven't upgraded to Natty but try to look under System Settings/Common > Appearance and Behavior/Personal Information/Calendar. > Not very intuitive to change "Configure KDE resources" to "Personal > Information" :-/ > I always use akonadiconsole when I need to reconfigure the resources. > Amazing! I've seen some pretty weird places to put stuff in KDE4, but that takes the cake. Thank you very much. The really strange thing is that until my settings got blown away by the natty upgrade, everything looked (here) exactly the way it did in KDE3: i.e., I could access the per-calendar settings directly inside kontact. Well, never mind; I'm just thankful that you knew where I needed to go to allow me to use remote calendars again. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From aylin.kant at gmail.com Thu May 19 19:39:11 2011 From: aylin.kant at gmail.com (Aylin Kantarci) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 22:39:11 +0300 Subject: posix4 library Message-ID: Hi! I am compiling a POSix4 program. However, following error occurs. What should I do? What is the name for the posix4 package to be load with sudo get apt ? 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URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu May 19 21:26:51 2011 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 16:26:51 -0500 Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: References: <1145968032.666284.1305827776317.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>, <393376236.666331.1305827830997.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DD58B1B.6050802@swbell.net> On 05/19/2011 01:12 PM, Bob Schmidt wrote: > thanks for your help.... but > > I did everything you mentioned, and it tells me that those packages are > already installed? But I still don't have any flash on websites. Any > other ideas? > > thanks, > bob > I don't know if it really helps or not, but I put the Flash-Aid plugin in Firefox and flash works. Flash-Aid is supposed to make sure your Firefox has the most up-to-date version installed and if it doesn't it asks top install it. In Firefox it's Tools > Add-ons and then search for Flash-Aid. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From helder.earth at gmail.com Fri May 20 00:08:03 2011 From: helder.earth at gmail.com (Helder Terra) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:08:03 -0300 Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: <4DD58B1B.6050802@swbell.net> References: <1145968032.666284.1305827776317.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>, <393376236.666331.1305827830997.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4DD58B1B.6050802@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4DD5B0E3.8080106@gmail.com> Thanks, I had the same problem and your Flash-aid suggestion solved it perfectly. Helder Terra Em 19-05-2011 18:26, Billie Walsh escreveu: > > > On 05/19/2011 01:12 PM, Bob Schmidt wrote: >> thanks for your help.... but >> >> I did everything you mentioned, and it tells me that those packages are >> already installed? But I still don't have any flash on websites. Any >> other ideas? >> >> thanks, >> bob >> > > I don't know if it really helps or not, but I put the Flash-Aid plugin > in Firefox and flash works. > > Flash-Aid is supposed to make sure your Firefox has the most > up-to-date version installed and if it doesn't it asks top install it. > > In Firefox it's Tools > Add-ons and then search for Flash-Aid. > From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Fri May 20 06:37:03 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 23:37:03 -0700 Subject: new to list with a problem In-Reply-To: <1749957842.663860.1305825686767.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <415721607.663721.1305825588788.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1749957842.663860.1305825686767.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Typo alert! It is sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras Although I had that installed, I didn't have flash after recent updates, until I removed / purged flashplugin-nonfree, and reinstalled flashplugin-installer. Valorie On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Paul Kaplan wrote: > install the package "kubuntu-restricted-extras" > From the CL:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-retricted extras > Paul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Schmidt" > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:09:01 PM > Subject: new to list with a problem > > Hi All, > > I am new to kubuntu and to the list. I installed 11.04 x64 on an hp dv9260. > Everything works great except for flashplayer. I installed the flashplayer > installer, and ran about:plugin in firefox, nothing. I uninstalled > flashplayer-installer and reinstalled it, nothing. Has anyone else had this > problem? > > thanks, > Bob -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Fri May 20 13:42:25 2011 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:42:25 +1000 Subject: Natty 32 bit no microphone detection in Skype Message-ID: <4DD66FC1.4010103@ozemail.com.au> In Natty 32 bit no microphone detection in Skype on asus board with intel soundcard. No problems with meerkat or lucid, and I made a bug report 3 weeks ago, so this is a big clanger in Natty for me. Back to Meerkat for heaven knows how long. Regards From liviu.mirea at gmail.com Fri May 20 14:12:12 2011 From: liviu.mirea at gmail.com (liviu.mirea) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 07:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: <4DD37645.9050805@googlemail.com> References: <4DD37645.9050805@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: > > 18/05/2011 00:26, cori madden wrote: >> I cant get flash to work on either chrome or fire fox, after the last >> update it just doesnt register being there on either web browser [...] > > Hello, > > Are you talking about Kubuntu natty ? Which architecture : amd64, i386 ? > > Funny, the same thing happened to me about 3 days ago. Maybe a recent update? $ uname -a Linux liviu-P5Q-PRO 2.6.38-8-generic-tuxonice #42~ppa3-Ubuntu SMP Sun Apr 24 09:30:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux I tried reinstalling the "Adobe Flash plugin" package but that didn't solve anything. Firefox and Chrome ask me to install Flash and redirect me to the Adobe website. Any ideas? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/flash-stopped-working-on-my-computer-tp31642366p31664436.html Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From ubuntu at kitterman.com Fri May 20 14:22:24 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:22:24 -0400 Subject: Natty 32 bit no microphone detection in Skype In-Reply-To: <4DD66FC1.4010103@ozemail.com.au> References: <4DD66FC1.4010103@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <201105201022.25149.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Friday, May 20, 2011 09:42:25 AM Rod Lovett wrote: > In Natty 32 bit no microphone detection in Skype on asus board with > intel soundcard. No problems with meerkat or lucid, and I made a bug > report 3 weeks ago, so this is a big clanger in Natty for me. > Back to Meerkat for heaven knows how long. > Regards What bug? This is very likely hardware specific as the microphone that's built into both my laptop and netbook work fine on Natty 32bit. Scott K From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Fri May 20 15:06:21 2011 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 11:06:21 -0400 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <4DD37645.9050805@googlemail.com> <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: Best solution for any Flash issue I have ever found is the Firefox add-on FlashAid: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/ Best of all, it removes all previous instances of Flash prior to downloading the latest from Adobe. Try it. You'll thank me later. James Cain On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, liviu.mirea wrote: > > > tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: > > > > 18/05/2011 00:26, cori madden wrote: > >> I cant get flash to work on either chrome or fire fox, after the last > >> update it just doesnt register being there on either web browser [...] > > > > Hello, > > > > Are you talking about Kubuntu natty ? Which architecture : amd64, i386 ? > > > > > > Funny, the same thing happened to me about 3 days ago. Maybe a recent > update? > $ uname -a > Linux liviu-P5Q-PRO 2.6.38-8-generic-tuxonice #42~ppa3-Ubuntu SMP Sun Apr > 24 > 09:30:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > I tried reinstalling the "Adobe Flash plugin" package but that didn't solve > anything. Firefox and Chrome ask me to install Flash and redirect me to the > Adobe website. Any ideas? > > Thanks > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/flash-stopped-working-on-my-computer-tp31642366p31664436.html > Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liviu.mirea at gmail.com Fri May 20 16:33:20 2011 From: liviu.mirea at gmail.com (Liviu Mirea Ghiban) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:33:20 +0300 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: References: <4DD37645.9050805@googlemail.com> <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4DD697D0.3080409@gmail.com> Wow, that actually worked. Flash now runs in all of my browsers (Firefox, Chromium and Opera) and full-screen works without a hitch (it had issues previously). Thanks a million! :) Liviu Mirea On 05/20/2011 06:06 PM, James Cain wrote: > Best solution for any Flash issue I have ever found is the Firefox > add-on FlashAid: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/ > > Best of all, it removes all previous instances of Flash prior to > downloading the latest from Adobe. Try it. You'll thank me later. > > James Cain > > > > > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, liviu.mirea > wrote: > > > > tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: > > > > 18/05/2011 00:26, cori madden wrote: > >> I cant get flash to work on either chrome or fire fox, after > the last > >> update it just doesnt register being there on either web > browser [...] > > > > Hello, > > > > Are you talking about Kubuntu natty ? Which architecture : > amd64, i386 ? > > > > > > Funny, the same thing happened to me about 3 days ago. Maybe a recent > update? > $ uname -a > Linux liviu-P5Q-PRO 2.6.38-8-generic-tuxonice #42~ppa3-Ubuntu SMP > Sun Apr 24 > 09:30:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > I tried reinstalling the "Adobe Flash plugin" package but that > didn't solve > anything. Firefox and Chrome ask me to install Flash and redirect > me to the > Adobe website. Any ideas? > > Thanks > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/flash-stopped-working-on-my-computer-tp31642366p31664436.html > Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Fri May 20 16:50:16 2011 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:50:16 -0400 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: <4DD697D0.3080409@gmail.com> References: <4DD37645.9050805@googlemail.com> <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> <4DD697D0.3080409@gmail.com> Message-ID: Glad to see it helped! James Cain On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Liviu Mirea Ghiban wrote: > Wow, that actually worked. Flash now runs in all of my browsers (Firefox, > Chromium and Opera) and full-screen works without a hitch (it had issues > previously). Thanks a million! :) > > Liviu Mirea > > > On 05/20/2011 06:06 PM, James Cain wrote: > > Best solution for any Flash issue I have ever found is the Firefox add-on > FlashAid: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/ > > Best of all, it removes all previous instances of Flash prior to > downloading the latest from Adobe. Try it. You'll thank me later. > > James Cain > > > > > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:12 AM, liviu.mirea wrote: > >> >> >> tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: >> > >> > 18/05/2011 00:26, cori madden wrote: >> >> I cant get flash to work on either chrome or fire fox, after the last >> >> update it just doesnt register being there on either web browser [...] >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Are you talking about Kubuntu natty ? Which architecture : amd64, i386 ? >> > >> > >> >> Funny, the same thing happened to me about 3 days ago. Maybe a recent >> update? >> $ uname -a >> Linux liviu-P5Q-PRO 2.6.38-8-generic-tuxonice #42~ppa3-Ubuntu SMP Sun Apr >> 24 >> 09:30:03 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >> >> I tried reinstalling the "Adobe Flash plugin" package but that didn't >> solve >> anything. Firefox and Chrome ask me to install Flash and redirect me to >> the >> Adobe website. Any ideas? >> >> Thanks >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://old.nabble.com/flash-stopped-working-on-my-computer-tp31642366p31664436.html >> Sent from the kubuntu-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ssc1478 at aim.com Fri May 20 17:00:39 2011 From: ssc1478 at aim.com (ssc1478) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:00:39 -0400 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: References: <4DD37645.9050805@googlemail.com> <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> <4DD697D0.3080409@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:50 PM, James Cain wrote: > Glad to see it helped! > > James Cain > > This helped me too - thanks! Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tanghus at gmail.com Fri May 20 18:25:33 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 20:25:33 +0200 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: References: <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <201105202025.33887.tanghus@gmail.com> On Friday 20 May 2011 17:06:21 James Cain wrote: > Best solution for any Flash issue I have ever found is the Firefox add-on > FlashAid: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/ > > Best of all, it removes all previous instances of Flash prior to > downloading the latest from Adobe. Try it. You'll thank me later. Sadly the latest Flash makes nspluginviewer crash so it's a no go for Konqueror. I rolled back to an earlier version and pinned the version to not get updates. -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Fri May 20 18:30:51 2011 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:30:51 -0400 Subject: flash stopped working on my computer In-Reply-To: <201105202025.33887.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <31664436.post@talk.nabble.com> <201105202025.33887.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Thomas Olsen wrote: > > Sadly the latest Flash makes nspluginviewer crash so it's a no go for > Konqueror. I rolled back to an earlier version and pinned the version to > not > get updates. > > I had seen Flash-Aid tested on Firefox, Chrome, and Opera. I never thought to see how it worked in Konqueror. Thanks for pointing that out. - James -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Sat May 21 12:10:57 2011 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:10:57 +1000 Subject: in Natty 32 bit no microphone detection in Skype Message-ID: <4DD7ABD1.80007@ozemail.com.au> In Natty 32 bit no microphone detection in Skype on asus P5G41C-M LXboard with intel G41 chipset and soundcard. Meekat and Lucid no problem on the same machine Pretty mainstream desktop stuff but Natty in both ubuntu and Kubuntu flavours missed the boat with the microphone on my machine so bug what bug for you Scott K, looks like I skip Natty on my desktop machine. 4 now. A buggy intel driver this time around with no fix for this so far with sound but no recording. So syonara Natty for now--unless someone can suggest something constructive. Regards Rod What bug? This is very likely hardware specific as the microphone that's built into both my laptop and netbook work fine on Natty 32bit. Scott K From samorris at netspace.net.au Sat May 21 21:52:09 2011 From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Steve Morris) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 07:52:09 +1000 Subject: Natty 64 bit upgrade issue Message-ID: <4DD83409.2060202@netspace.net.au> Hi, I have downloaded and burned the natty 64bit alternate cd. Having used apt-cdrom to add the cd to the repositories and disabled the maverick cd repositories with synaptic, I attempted to use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, to upgrade my kubuntu/ubuntu system, which failed because it said that a package (whose name I don't remember) was going to break networkmanager and refused to go any further. I found that packagekit had detected the natty cd and offered a dist upgrade feature which I used. It then proceeded to update and configure the system from the cdrom, plus I think some packages from the net. It also removed 60 packages, after prompting me to do so, on the grounds that after the upgrade they were obsolete. This upgrade with packagekit said it was going to install around 200 (I think) packages and upgrade 1163. When I rebooted I found that there was no entry for Ubuntu in kdm. I booted into kde and then used synaptic to install both gnome-minimal and gnome-desktop, and also installed all packages beginning with Unity (there were no packages beginning with Unity actually installed, so I'm not sure what the upgrade did, given that I thought with 11.04 the base was Unity, not Gnome). When I rebooted there were entries in kdm for Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic. If I selected Ubuntu Classic the system loaded what looked like standard Gnome, but if I selected Ubuntu all I got was a desktop background with no taskbars and the only mouse right click functionality was to create new folders, documents and change the background wallpaper. As a side issue to this when I booted the load screen said my system was Kubuntu 11.04, so it thinks the system has actually been upgraded. 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Having > used apt-cdrom to add the cd to the repositories and disabled the > maverick cd repositories with synaptic, I attempted to use sudo apt-get > dist-upgrade, to upgrade my kubuntu/ubuntu system, which failed because > it said that a package (whose name I don't remember) was going to break > networkmanager and refused to go any further. Maybe you should have used the alt-cd method as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu It does a few more things than just editig the software sources and running a dist-upgrade > I found that packagekit had detected the natty cd and offered a > dist upgrade feature which I used. It then proceeded to update and > configure the system from the cdrom, plus I think some packages from the > net. It also removed 60 packages, after prompting me to do so, on the > grounds that after the upgrade they were obsolete. This upgrade with > packagekit said it was going to install around 200 (I think) packages > and upgrade 1163. That sounds about right. That feature you found is the same method from the wiki page, only your cd was detected properly (doesn't always happen) > When I rebooted I found that there was no entry for Ubuntu in kdm. > I booted into kde and then used synaptic to install both gnome-minimal > and gnome-desktop, and also installed all packages beginning with Unity > (there were no packages beginning with Unity actually installed, so I'm > not sure what the upgrade did, given that I thought with 11.04 the base > was Unity, not Gnome). When I rebooted there were entries in kdm for > Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic. > If I selected Ubuntu Classic the system loaded what looked like > standard Gnome, but if I selected Ubuntu all I got was a desktop > background with no taskbars and the only mouse right click functionality > was to create new folders, documents and change the background wallpaper. > As a side issue to this when I booted the load screen said my > system was Kubuntu 11.04, so it thinks the system has actually been > upgraded. > > Does anyone know what packages I need in order to get a fully > working Unity desktop? > Install the package *ubuntu*-desktop, this would pull in all the missing bits. > regards, > Steve -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org http://emacdogsports.com From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Sun May 22 00:56:09 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 03:56:09 +0300 Subject: Microphone Problem (solved) In-Reply-To: References: <4DD326A3.3080209@whamra.com> <4DD3489F.80202@gmail.com> <4DD37734.7010907@googlemail.com> <4DD447BF.4000400@whamra.com> Message-ID: <4DD85F29.2010208@whamra.com> On 05/19/2011 01:35 AM, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > >> On 05/18/2011 10:37 AM, tv.debian at googlemail.com wrote: >>> 18/05/2011 06:18, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> On 18/05/2011 03:53, Waleed Hamra wrote: >>>>> i'm having a very weird problem. >>>>> i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i >>>>> decided to give it a try. >>>>> after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i >>>>> need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high >>>>> enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so >>>>> basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming >>>>> from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no >>>>> NONE of the programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. >>>>> i tried skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox >>>>> and checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, >>>>> yet... i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... >> this >>>>> is really really confusing. >>>>> anyone has any ideas? >>>>> >>>> Try installing either pavucontrol or the veromix plasmoid and then play >>>> around with input channels. The Pulseaudio system is not yet well >>>> supported in KMix but depending on version is default in Kubuntu. I like >>>> veromix as it is "native kde" and can sit in the systray. I have >>>> basically replaced KMIx with Veromix. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Or... ditch pulseaudio. I had endless problems after the natty upgrade, >>> I removed pulseaudio, paid a visit to systemsettings "multimedia" >>> settings, and sound started to work again (with phonon gstreamer >> backend). >>> >> >> no pulseaudio here :) i ditched it long ago. > > > I admit that I'm baffled as to why PulseAudio continues to be shipped with > Kubuntu. It's never caused me anything but grief, and I always have to > remove it before I can get sound working on my system. > >> hello everyone, yesterday i upgraded to Natty, and my microphone worked out of the box... it's working in skype, in audacity, everywhere.. :D -- Waleed K. 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Bill From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 22 02:11:17 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 22:11:17 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Election Nominations Message-ID: <201105212211.17624.ubuntu@kitterman.com> I see I've gotten a bit behind on the announced process. Nominations were supposed to finish last Wednesday. Here's who I have (in no particular order): Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) Harald Sitter (apachelogger) Jonathan Thomas (JontheEchidna) Terence Simpson (tsimpson) David Wonderly (DarkwingDuck) Clay Weber (claydoh) If I missed anyone, please let me know right away. I'll plan on starting the poll on Sunday (my original mail said Sunday the 21st and between Sunday and the 21st, I pick Sunday). The poll will be done using CIVS [1]. I will send ballots to all Kubuntu members with public email addresses in their launchpad profiles. If you are a Kubuntu member and don't have a public email address in your launchpad profile, please mail me a request for a ballot signed with a GPG key in your launchpad profile and I'll ensure one is sent to you. The poll will last roughly a week until next Sunday the results will be effective right away. Scott K [1] http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Sun May 22 03:20:39 2011 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:20:39 +1000 Subject: No microhone sort of fixed in Kubuntu 11.04 32 bit Message-ID: <4DD88107.8090508@ozemail.com.au> I could not use Skype due to no microphone being picked up in Kubuntu/ ubuntu natty 11.04 32bit. It automagically did so in Meerkat and Lucid. No automagic for natty, I had to apt-get remove pulseaudio then play with ALSA settings on reboot which were not configured properly. Microphones were all switched off as was line and boosters for mikes. Then I did apt-get install pulseaudio and microphone worked. The only problem is microphone is on all the time skype or not. So where did the automagic stuff go I wonder? Regards From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 22 03:50:00 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 23:50:00 -0400 Subject: No microhone sort of fixed in Kubuntu 11.04 32 bit In-Reply-To: <4DD88107.8090508@ozemail.com.au> References: <4DD88107.8090508@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <201105212350.00833.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:20:39 PM Rod Lovett wrote: > I could not use Skype due to no microphone being picked up in Kubuntu/ > ubuntu natty 11.04 32bit. > It automagically did so in Meerkat and Lucid. > No automagic for natty, I had to apt-get remove pulseaudio then play > with ALSA settings on reboot which were not configured properly. > Microphones were all switched off as was line and boosters for mikes. > Then I did apt-get install pulseaudio and microphone worked. > > The only problem is microphone is on all the time skype or not. > So where did the automagic stuff go I wonder? > Regards It's working fine for others, so this is probably a hardware specific bug. Please file a bug using 'ubuntu-bug audio' in your konsole shell. That will collect relevant additional information that is generally useful to the Ubuntu devs that maintain that part of the system. Scott K From richard at underpope.com Sun May 22 04:12:10 2011 From: richard at underpope.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 21:12:10 -0700 Subject: Pulseaudio Comanded To, "Silence" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Bill vance wrote: > Howdy folks; > > Since I re-did my Lucid system a couple weeks ago, I've been having a real > nightmare getting Pulseaudio working again. Nothing I've gotten from the > archives has worked, including pavucontrol, which fixed it last time. > Pavucontrol > did inadvertantly give me a clue though. In the input and output > device windows, > the volume slider bars are lacking a slider, and on the left, just > below each empty > slider bar, is the word, "silence". I have been unable to find this > documented, > anywhere, in, "man pavucontrol", nor have I found it documented anywhere > else. > > Help!!! > To get the best performance out of your sound system, try this: sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio Works for me every time. ;-) (Seriously, I don't have an answer for you. PA gives me nothing but grief, and I always remove it the instant it shows up in my system.) -- Sláinte, Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 22 04:39:29 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 00:39:29 -0400 Subject: Pulseaudio Comanded To, "Silence" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105220039.30080.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:12:10 AM Richard S. Crawford wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Bill vance wrote: > > Howdy folks; > > > > Since I re-did my Lucid system a couple weeks ago, I've been having a > > real nightmare getting Pulseaudio working again. Nothing I've gotten > > from the archives has worked, including pavucontrol, which fixed it last > > time. Pavucontrol > > did inadvertantly give me a clue though. In the input and output > > device windows, > > the volume slider bars are lacking a slider, and on the left, just > > below each empty > > slider bar, is the word, "silence". I have been unable to find this > > documented, > > anywhere, in, "man pavucontrol", nor have I found it documented anywhere > > else. > > > > Help!!! > > To get the best performance out of your sound system, try this: > > sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio > > Works for me every time. ;-) > > (Seriously, I don't have an answer for you. PA gives me nothing but grief, > and I always remove it the instant it shows up in my system.) This is fine advice for Lucid since Kubuntu didn't ship pulseaudio. In Maverick we started doing this since it started getting some upstream support in KDE (Kmix) and it, in my experience, works very well in Natty for at least my uses. In these later releases we should really focus on identifying and fixing the problems that prevent pulseaudio from working for some users. Scott K From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun May 22 08:05:54 2011 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 18:05:54 +1000 Subject: Pulseaudio Comanded To, "Silence" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD8C3E2.3020503@iinet.net.au> On 22/05/11 14:12, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Bill vance > wrote: > > Howdy folks; > > Since I re-did my Lucid system a couple weeks ago, I've been > having a real > nightmare getting Pulseaudio working again. Nothing I've gotten > from the > archives has worked, including pavucontrol, which fixed it last time. > Pavucontrol > did inadvertantly give me a clue though. In the input and output > device windows, > the volume slider bars are lacking a slider, and on the left, just > below each empty > slider bar, is the word, "silence". I have been unable to find > this documented, > anywhere, in, "man pavucontrol", nor have I found it documented > anywhere else. > > Help!!! > > > To get the best performance out of your sound system, try this: > > sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio > > Works for me every time. ;-) > > (Seriously, I don't have an answer for you. PA gives me nothing but > grief, and I always remove it the instant it shows up in my system.) Certainly pulseaudio together with alsa gives lots of grief. Before pulseaudio there were no hassles with sound - apart from the occasional glitch for whatever reason, but certainly not the grief which is now being experienced by users. Almost every second question in user support mail lists now has something to do with audio. And, of course, the pulseaudio developers blame something in alsa - which is only natural when you cannot get your coding correct and don't give a damn about finding a solution to your coding errors. However, consider yourself fortunate because in openSUSE, which is what I now use (KDE version), the link between alsa and pulseaudio is immutable: you cannot remove pulseaudio without getting a dependency error for alsa. *BUT*, you can 'disable' pulseaudio - but cannot remove it! - in YaST2's settings for the sound (card). It took me quite a bit of effort to try and work something out for my system, which has an Audigy4 sound card, to get sound. And it was only 10 minutes ago that I got the sound on my wife's system to work which has an earlier version of an Audigy card! (and I installed openSUSE 11.4 KDE on her system several days ago). My advice is, irrespective of which distro you are using, is to- 1) install alsamixer (alsmixergui may not work, but alsamixer will - except maybe in Ubuntu where you need to uninstall pulseadio (dunno for sure now because things may have changed by now )); 2) start an application which will produce sound - eg, I start, say, xine to view a TV program (but, of course, this has no sound - yet); 3) run Terminal/Konsole (whatever it is called in your distro) on another desktop/workspace) and start alsamixer with 'alsamixer '; 4) when alsamixer appears on the screen, press F6 and select the card which has been recognised during installation (the default shown here is "default" which means sweet FA); 5) press F-something (see the menu on screen) which will show you *ALL* the available parameters to fiddle with; 6) depending on your audio system (simple stereo audio, surround 5- or 7-speaker system, for example) adjust the sound levels for the channles; 7) but IN PARTICULAR play around with the few AUDIGY x parematers and also the S/PDIF parameter - but do this while your audio application is running so that you can hear the sound when you correctly alter one (or more) of these parameters. On my system I had to turn off S/PDIF to get sound while on my wife's system a short while ago I had to turn off AUDIGY M to get her sound back and running! Go figure. But before this pulseaudio crap it was only a matter of setting the sound level after selecting the Master Channel. HTH BC -- "The time has been That, when the brains were out, the man would die," "Macbeth", Shakespeare From rrumberger at web.de Sun May 22 08:15:07 2011 From: rrumberger at web.de (Reinhold Rumberger) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:15:07 +0200 Subject: Pulseaudio Comanded To, "Silence" In-Reply-To: <201105220039.30080.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <201105220039.30080.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <201105221015.10223.rrumberger@web.de> On Sonntag 22 Mai 2011, 06:39:29, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:12:10 AM Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > To get the best performance out of your sound system, try this: > > > > sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio > > > > Works for me every time. ;-) > > > > (Seriously, I don't have an answer for you. PA gives me nothing but > > grief, and I always remove it the instant it shows up in my system.) > > This is fine advice for Lucid since Kubuntu didn't ship pulseaudio. In > Maverick we started doing this since it started getting some upstream > support in KDE (Kmix) and it, in my experience, works very well in Natty > for at least my uses. In these later releases we should really focus on > identifying and fixing the problems that prevent pulseaudio from working > for some users. Out of curiosity, and because I haven't switched to Natty yet, are these bugs fixed?: - In Maverick, PA doesn't seem to be properly supported by xine, which leads to all kinds of crashes if I need to switch audio channels, and a rather nasty audio delay when pausing. - In every other app I tried, PA caused a slight audio delay that was immediately gone upon its removal. --Reinhold From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Sun May 22 09:59:50 2011 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:59:50 +1000 Subject: It's working fine for others, so this is probably a hardware specific bug. Please file a bug using 'ubuntu-bug audio' in your konsole shell. That will collect relevant additional information that is generally useful to the Ubuntu devs that maintain that part of the system. Re: no mirophone in Natty 32 bit Message-ID: <4DD8DE96.4030406@ozemail.com.au> Hi Scott, there are many others pulseaudio is not working fine for this time too with natty, though it may have worked with older snapshot releases eg Meerkat and Lucid where they got the pulseaudio automagic right for more folks perhaps. I suspect this is not a hardware issue it is more likely coding error, maybe they can't fix it, and it is left to the user this time. I made an error report 3 weeks ago, no result yet. I have also emailed the ubuntu devs, who are deciding if a non dev can contribute anything at all, rather than recognising there is a problem. Also the seamonkey browser 2.0.14 package is kaput, no doubt code problems again, I had to download the source tar.bz2 package and use that instead. I also made a seamonkey error report on that about 3 weeks ago too. Natty has been rushed out with some errors and they are off tweaking the next sid unstable snapshot already. Perhaps they should try a rolling release model taming the sid bleeding edge as they go, with their clever software engineering it would be really great I suspect. It's working fine for others, so this is probably a hardware specific bug. Please file a bug using 'ubuntu-bug audio' in your konsole shell. That will collect relevant additional information that is generally useful to the Ubuntu devs that maintain that part of the system. Scott K From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 22 13:21:17 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 09:21:17 -0400 Subject: Pulseaudio Comanded To, "Silence" In-Reply-To: <201105221015.10223.rrumberger@web.de> References: <201105220039.30080.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <201105221015.10223.rrumberger@web.de> Message-ID: <201105220921.17964.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Sunday, May 22, 2011 04:15:07 AM Reinhold Rumberger wrote: > On Sonntag 22 Mai 2011, 06:39:29, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:12:10 AM Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > > To get the best performance out of your sound system, try this: > > > > > > sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio > > > > > > Works for me every time. ;-) > > > > > > (Seriously, I don't have an answer for you. PA gives me nothing but > > > grief, and I always remove it the instant it shows up in my system.) > > > > This is fine advice for Lucid since Kubuntu didn't ship pulseaudio. In > > Maverick we started doing this since it started getting some upstream > > support in KDE (Kmix) and it, in my experience, works very well in Natty > > for at least my uses. In these later releases we should really focus on > > identifying and fixing the problems that prevent pulseaudio from working > > for some users. > > Out of curiosity, and because I haven't switched to Natty yet, are these > bugs fixed?: > - In Maverick, PA doesn't seem to be properly supported by xine, which > leads to all kinds of crashes if I need to switch audio channels, and a > rather nasty audio delay when pausing. > - In every other app I tried, PA caused a slight audio delay that was > immediately gone upon its removal. > > --Reinhold I'm probably not the best person to answer these questions as when it comes to audio I use whatever the system defaults are and am not an audiophile of any kind. With the standard Kubuntu applications (and Skype) I find audio in Natty stable and functional. It's the first time I can remember I didn't have to dig through and unmute the microphone after install. I don't recall any audio related crashes. Scott K From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 22 13:36:52 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 09:36:52 -0400 Subject: It's working fine for others ... Re: no mirophone in Natty 32 bit In-Reply-To: <4DD8DE96.4030406@ozemail.com.au> References: <4DD8DE96.4030406@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <201105220936.52266.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Sunday, May 22, 2011 05:59:50 AM Rod Lovett wrote: > Hi Scott, > there are many others pulseaudio is not working fine for this > time too with natty, though it may have worked with older snapshot > releases eg Meerkat and Lucid where they got the pulseaudio automagic > right for more folks perhaps. I suspect this is not a hardware issue it is > more likely coding error, maybe they can't fix it, and it is left to the > user this time. > > I made an error report 3 weeks ago, no result yet. > I have also emailed the ubuntu devs, who are deciding if a non dev can > contribute anything at all, rather than recognising there is a problem. > > Also the seamonkey browser 2.0.14 package is kaput, no doubt code > problems again, I had to download the source tar.bz2 package and use that > instead. I also made a seamonkey error report on that about 3 weeks ago > too. > > Natty has been rushed out with some errors and they are off tweaking the > next sid unstable snapshot already. > > Perhaps they should try a rolling release model taming the sid bleeding > edge as they go, with their clever software engineering it would be really > great I suspect. It seems I wasn't clear. I didn't mean that your hardware was defective, but that there is likely a coding error in the software (drivers) related to your specific hardware. You said " I made an error report 3 weeks ago". What is the bug number of this report? If you reported something other than a bug in Launchpad, please report one as I said "ubuntu-bug audio" and let me know that bug number. Just to be clear: I am an Ubuntu developer and I am trying to solicit the input needed to try and understand what your problem is. If I can't solve it myself (which is indeed likely in this case), I will ask someone who's more likely to be able to fix it to have a look. Non-developers certainly can make a substantial contribution, so I don't understand "... ubuntu devs, who are deciding if a non dev can contribute anything at all ...". Non-developers can also become developers (which is what I did) and this is relevant to your Seamonkey complaint. Seamonkey is in Universe and not shipped by default by any Ubuntu variant, so it does not get a lot of developer attention. If you are interested in helping to get it working better for everyone (and if you built it from source successfully, you know enough to be ready to start contributing to Ubuntu development) I can assist you in getting started with this. Natty wasn't 'rushed out'. It was released when scheduled which is the way releases work in the Ubuntu project. I think a rolling release would give you more problems with some components not being mature or well integrated. What we lack is enough people to deal with all the problems that come up. We need more help from people who care about making things better. Scott K From dotancohen at gmail.com Sun May 22 14:49:09 2011 From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:49:09 +0300 Subject: Pulseaudio Comanded To, "Silence" In-Reply-To: <201105220921.17964.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <201105220039.30080.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <201105221015.10223.rrumberger@web.de> <201105220921.17964.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 16:21, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I'm probably not the best person to answer these questions as when it comes to > audio I use whatever the system defaults are and am not an audiophile of any > kind.  With the standard Kubuntu applications (and Skype) I find audio in Natty > stable and functional.  It's the first time I can remember I didn't have to dig > through and unmute the microphone after install.  I don't recall any audio > related crashes. > And Maverick before Natty. By Maverick I stopped having audio issues, everything just worked on all machines that got a fresh install (upgrades were not so smooth). Remove the pulseaudio and alsa dotfiles as well from your $HOME directory. I can say that I use Skype, Amarok, Flash, Mplayer, VLC, Ekiga, Juk, and other applications with no problems. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com From mmtsales at gmail.com Sun May 22 16:42:25 2011 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 13:42:25 -0300 Subject: No sound in Kubuntu 11.04 Message-ID: <201105221342.25743.mmtsales@gmail.com> Hello, Every time I boot my VAIO VPCF111FB, the sound starts working ok in KDE. After some time it is running (sometimes hours, sometimes days), audio stops working in KDE. KDE notifications don't produce any sound and KDE applications do not either. However, non-KDE applications like mplayer continue producing sounds normally. The problem is "solved" temporarily with a reboot. Also, when I go to SystemSettings -> Multimedia after the sound stops working, I get a messaging informing that KDE has detected that one or more internal sound devices were removed (?!) and asking if KDE can permanently forget about them. The supposedly removed devices are: Capture: HDA Intel (ALC275 Analog) Output: HDA Intel (ALC275 Analog) Output: HDA Intel (ALC275 Analog) #1 After a reboot, the devices magically hurry back inside the notebook and start working again. Before Natty I was running Lucid in this very computer with no sound issues at all. This happens after a clean Kubuntu 11.04 amd64 install and also happens if I first install Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 and add kubuntu-desktop later. Since Jaunty, I have always installed first Ubuntu and later added kubuntu-desktop, because I used to have similar sound problems when installing Kubuntu directly (with other computers, before I've bought this one) that seam to be solved this way. But now with Natty, the problems persist even if I install Ubuntu first. Any idea of what may be causing this? I hate having to reboot the computer every now and then. Thanks, Marcelo From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 22 22:15:12 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 18:15:12 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Election Nominations In-Reply-To: <201105212211.17624.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <201105212211.17624.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <201105221815.12307.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Ballots have now been sent out and voting is underway. I was able to find a reasonable looking email address for all active Kubuntu Members. If you didn't get a ballot, please check your spamfolder/other mailbox you rarely check, etc. If you find you didn't get the ballot at all, contact me and I will arrange to have it resent. Scott K On Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:11:17 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > I see I've gotten a bit behind on the announced process. Nominations were > supposed to finish last Wednesday. Here's who I have (in no particular > order): > > Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) > Harald Sitter (apachelogger) > Jonathan Thomas (JontheEchidna) > Terence Simpson (tsimpson) > David Wonderly (DarkwingDuck) > Clay Weber (claydoh) > > If I missed anyone, please let me know right away. I'll plan on starting > the poll on Sunday (my original mail said Sunday the 21st and between > Sunday and the 21st, I pick Sunday). The poll will be done using CIVS > [1]. I will send ballots to all Kubuntu members with public email > addresses in their launchpad profiles. If you are a Kubuntu member and > don't have a public email address in your launchpad profile, please mail > me a request for a ballot signed with a GPG key in your launchpad profile > and I'll ensure one is sent to you. The poll will last roughly a week > until next Sunday the results will be effective right away. > > Scott K > > > > [1] http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs From rodlovett at ozemail.com.au Mon May 23 01:09:19 2011 From: rodlovett at ozemail.com.au (Rod Lovett) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 11:09:19 +1000 Subject: 1. Microphone Problem (Waleed Hamra) Message-ID: <4DD9B3BF.6000700@ozemail.com.au> Hi yes in Natty, pulseaudio is a dead duck and the developers are not interested at all about this it seems, they bounced any emails about it as they only talk to themselves not humble users, the plebs. Anyway apt-get autoremove pulseaudio reboot and in ALSA make sure the full controls are there, you will have to move some as by default they are not there. Go to settings 'configure channels' and drag and drop them. Note DIGITAL must be on, and the correct number of channels in my case 2 channels applied otherwise you get nothing on microphone for skype etc, also the booster microphone must be on a bit. The speaker sound of your voice unfortunately remains on, this is a pest I solved it by having a mike you can turn on and off manually. The automagic has gone for sound configuration in Natty, and they will take ages if ever to fix it, it is like running unstable sid as an OS. Regards Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 04:53:39 +0300 From: Waleed Hamra To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Microphone Problem Message-ID: <4DD326A3.3080209 at whamra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" i'm having a very weird problem. i have never thought of using my microphone before, but this week, i decided to give it a try. after some fiddling with alsamixer, i managed to see what controls i need to control its volume, and what levels are acceptable between high enough volume, and not too high to cause nasty feedback loops. so basically, now when i speak into the microphone, i hear my sound coming from the speakers. i thought all is fine... but alas... no NONE of the programs i tried managed to detect the faintest of sounds. i tried skype, i tried audacity, i tried arecorder, even ran virtualbox and checked Windows' sound recorder, nothing, they all hear nothing, yet... i am hearing myself during all the tests, on the speakers... this is really really confusing. anyone has any ideas? -- Waleed K. Hamra Manager of Hamra Information Systems From ubuntu at kitterman.com Mon May 23 02:19:58 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 22:19:58 -0400 Subject: 1. Microphone Problem (Waleed Hamra) In-Reply-To: <4DD9B3BF.6000700@ozemail.com.au> References: <4DD9B3BF.6000700@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <201105222219.58395.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Sunday, May 22, 2011 09:09:19 PM Rod Lovett wrote: > Hi yes in Natty, pulseaudio is a dead duck and the developers are not > interested at all about this it seems, they bounced any emails about it > as they only talk to themselves not humble users, the plebs. It's not a closed society. Anyone is welcome to get involved and contribute. Scott K From samorris at netspace.net.au Mon May 23 10:09:27 2011 From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Steve Morris) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 20:09:27 +1000 Subject: Natty 64 bit upgrade issue In-Reply-To: <201105211814.43554.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <4DD83409.2060202@netspace.net.au> <201105211814.43554.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4DDA3257.5090506@netspace.net.au> On 22/05/11 08:14, Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday, May 21, 2011 05:52:09 PM Steve Morris wrote: >> Hi, >> I have downloaded and burned the natty 64bit alternate cd. Having >> used apt-cdrom to add the cd to the repositories and disabled the >> maverick cd repositories with synaptic, I attempted to use sudo apt-get >> dist-upgrade, to upgrade my kubuntu/ubuntu system, which failed because >> it said that a package (whose name I don't remember) was going to break >> networkmanager and refused to go any further. > Maybe you should have used the alt-cd method as described here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu > It does a few more things than just editig the software sources and running a > dist-upgrade > > > >> I found that packagekit had detected the natty cd and offered a >> dist upgrade feature which I used. It then proceeded to update and >> configure the system from the cdrom, plus I think some packages from the >> net. It also removed 60 packages, after prompting me to do so, on the >> grounds that after the upgrade they were obsolete. This upgrade with >> packagekit said it was going to install around 200 (I think) packages >> and upgrade 1163. > That sounds about right. That feature you found is the same method from the > wiki page, only your cd was detected properly (doesn't always happen) > >> When I rebooted I found that there was no entry for Ubuntu in kdm. >> I booted into kde and then used synaptic to install both gnome-minimal >> and gnome-desktop, and also installed all packages beginning with Unity >> (there were no packages beginning with Unity actually installed, so I'm >> not sure what the upgrade did, given that I thought with 11.04 the base >> was Unity, not Gnome). When I rebooted there were entries in kdm for >> Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic. >> If I selected Ubuntu Classic the system loaded what looked like >> standard Gnome, but if I selected Ubuntu all I got was a desktop >> background with no taskbars and the only mouse right click functionality >> was to create new folders, documents and change the background wallpaper. >> As a side issue to this when I booted the load screen said my >> system was Kubuntu 11.04, so it thinks the system has actually been >> upgraded. >> >> Does anyone know what packages I need in order to get a fully >> working Unity desktop? >> > Install the package *ubuntu*-desktop, this would pull in all the missing bits. > Thankyou for the response Clay. I already have this package installed. I have done some further investigation and found the issue appears to be that unity is not startable from kdm. If I switch to gdm as the display manager it displays fine. I also made the mistake of turning on the 'KDE and QT event' plugin in compiz which continually displayed failure dialogs at a frequency that prevented being able to turn it off. To try an circumvent this issue I deleted all directories in my home directory beginning with a dot, and the unity ini file, but this brought the issue back again of only displaying the backdrop with no menus. I then tried installing the unity 2d packages, and unity displayed fine in this version, but the 3d version still refused to display. I then uninstalled all unity packages and the ubuntu_desktop package, and reinstalled them, but that still did not rectify the issue. I've also found that compiz seems to be very unstable with kde as well, it seems to be hogging the cpu and not refreshing the screen properly. regards, Steve >> regards, >> Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Microphone Problem (Waleed Hamra) In-Reply-To: <4DD9B3BF.6000700@ozemail.com.au> References: <4DD9B3BF.6000700@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <4DDAC43E.8000500@whamra.com> On 05/23/2011 04:09 AM, Rod Lovett wrote: > Hi yes in Natty, pulseaudio is a dead duck and the developers are not > interested at all about this it seems, they bounced any emails about it > as they only talk to themselves not humble users, the plebs. > as i mentioned in another email on that very thread, all my microphone problems are gone after i upgraded from maverick to natty. pulseaudio doesn't seem to do a good job, i don't blame its developers, i am sure they created it with good intentions, and linux does need a form of central management for all its audio drivers and settings, but unfortunately, it still is lacking. a better solution for now, is to just report bugs in launchpad, and i am very certain everyone of them will be looked at. if you believe that bugs in launchpa are getting neglected, you can help us bu being a bug triager, it requires no computer coding/programming skills at all, just basic computer knowledge. and emailing developers isn't going to do any good, in any open source community. developer lists are for strict development talk... bug control websites are the right place to go. -- Waleed K. 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Having >> used apt-cdrom to add the cd to the repositories and disabled the >> maverick cd repositories with synaptic, I attempted to use sudo apt-get >> dist-upgrade, to upgrade my kubuntu/ubuntu system, which failed because >> it said that a package (whose name I don't remember) was going to break >> networkmanager and refused to go any further. > Maybe you should have used the alt-cd method as described here: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades/Kubuntu > It does a few more things than just editig the software sources and running a > dist-upgrade > > > >> I found that packagekit had detected the natty cd and offered a >> dist upgrade feature which I used. It then proceeded to update and >> configure the system from the cdrom, plus I think some packages from the >> net. It also removed 60 packages, after prompting me to do so, on the >> grounds that after the upgrade they were obsolete. This upgrade with >> packagekit said it was going to install around 200 (I think) packages >> and upgrade 1163. > That sounds about right. That feature you found is the same method from the > wiki page, only your cd was detected properly (doesn't always happen) > >> When I rebooted I found that there was no entry for Ubuntu in kdm. >> I booted into kde and then used synaptic to install both gnome-minimal >> and gnome-desktop, and also installed all packages beginning with Unity >> (there were no packages beginning with Unity actually installed, so I'm >> not sure what the upgrade did, given that I thought with 11.04 the base >> was Unity, not Gnome). When I rebooted there were entries in kdm for >> Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic. >> If I selected Ubuntu Classic the system loaded what looked like >> standard Gnome, but if I selected Ubuntu all I got was a desktop >> background with no taskbars and the only mouse right click functionality >> was to create new folders, documents and change the background wallpaper. >> As a side issue to this when I booted the load screen said my >> system was Kubuntu 11.04, so it thinks the system has actually been >> upgraded. >> >> Does anyone know what packages I need in order to get a fully >> working Unity desktop? >> > Install the package *ubuntu*-desktop, this would pull in all the missing bits. > I have now resolved the issue. From my experience what I had to do indicates that the plugin in question has not been written properly by the developers. What I had to do was load Ubuntu Classic from gdm, run ccsm and activate the unity plugin, which then caused the menus to display from Ubuntu. But where the issue comes in as a result of this is that with this plugin active the unity toolbar is displayed in Ubuntu Classic, which it should not. Also, I don't know how I have done it, I have caused the icon that enables the display of all applications installed (the category listings displayed by the old start menu) to disappear from the toolbar and I cannot find any way of getting it back. So all in all, including the icons actually displayed on the unity toolbar, the unity implementation leaves a lot to be desired. regards, Steve >> regards, >> Steve -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: samorris.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 126 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dlaird at kharma.net Mon May 23 22:36:20 2011 From: dlaird at kharma.net (Dave Laird) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 15:36:20 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu-Kmail external editor fails... Message-ID: <201105231536.20681.dlaird@kharma.net> Good afternoon... I have used the Jed editor in Kmail for several years, but the new Natty seems to have broken something and now the export from Kmail is in HTML regardless of which editor I use externally. My settings in the external editor are "konsole -e jed %f". If I use xterm with XJed I still get the HTML instead of ASCII. Any thoughts or ideas would be gratefully accepted. Dave -- Dave Laird (dlaird at kharma.net) The Used Kharma Lot Fortune Random Thought For the Minute Advice is a dangerous gift; be cautious about giving and receiving it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com Tue May 24 10:00:47 2011 From: lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com (Lorenzo Bettini) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 12:00:47 +0200 Subject: No microhone sort of fixed in Kubuntu 11.04 32 bit In-Reply-To: <4DD88107.8090508@ozemail.com.au> References: <4DD88107.8090508@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: On 05/22/2011 05:20 AM, Rod Lovett wrote: > I could not use Skype due to no microphone being picked up in Kubuntu/ > ubuntu natty 11.04 32bit. > It automagically did so in Meerkat and Lucid. > No automagic for natty, I had to apt-get remove pulseaudio then play > with ALSA settings on reboot which were not configured properly. > Microphones were all switched off as was line and boosters for mikes. > Then I did apt-get install pulseaudio and microphone worked. > > The only problem is microphone is on all the time skype or not. > So where did the automagic stuff go I wonder? > Regards I managed to solve this issue using pavucontrol. I blogged about that: http://tronprog.blogspot.com/2011/05/making-microphone-work-in-kubuntu-natty.html hope this helps Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Bettini, PhD in Computer Science, DI, Univ. Torino HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it MUSIC: http://www.purplesucker.com BLOGS: http://tronprog.blogspot.com http://longlivemusic.blogspot.com From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Tue May 24 10:18:06 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 03:18:06 -0700 Subject: No microhone sort of fixed in Kubuntu 11.04 32 bit In-Reply-To: References: <4DD88107.8090508@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Lorenzo Bettini wrote: > On 05/22/2011 05:20 AM, Rod Lovett wrote: >> >> I could not use Skype due to no microphone being picked up in Kubuntu/ >> ubuntu natty 11.04 32bit. >> It automagically did so in Meerkat and Lucid. >> No automagic for natty, I had to apt-get remove pulseaudio then play >> with ALSA settings on reboot which were not configured properly. >> Microphones were all switched off as was line and boosters for mikes. >> Then I did apt-get install pulseaudio and microphone worked. >> >> The only problem is microphone is on all the time skype or not. >> So where did the automagic stuff go I wonder? >> Regards > > I managed to solve this issue using pavucontrol. > > I blogged about that: > http://tronprog.blogspot.com/2011/05/making-microphone-work-in-kubuntu-natty.html > > hope this helps > > Lorenzo I have to add my good news here, before i forget. It turns out my particular problem was hardware-specific, as ScottK suggested. So I went to the #ubuntu-kernel channel, described the situation, and asked how I could best file a useful bug. After looking through the results of various tests they asked me to perform, they came up with the fix for me, which worked! I now have headphones working again, as well the the mic --- and as a bonus, Skype. So after you have worked through the GUI tools, remember that we have on our team some talented specialists. Just because they are experts in the kernel doesn't mean they are gruff and dismissive! On the contrary, they are friendly and helpful. I did comment on a bug which I would not have found without their help, reporting my success. So IF you have a ATI Radeon controller, you might look at this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/741825 Otherwise, visit the channel and see what help they have for you. :-) Valorie -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed May 25 06:46:49 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:46:49 -0700 Subject: 1. Microphone Problem (Waleed Hamra) In-Reply-To: <4DDAC43E.8000500@whamra.com> References: <4DD9B3BF.6000700@ozemail.com.au> <4DDAC43E.8000500@whamra.com> Message-ID: Waleed makes a couple of excellent points. On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 05/23/2011 04:09 AM, Rod Lovett wrote: >> Hi yes in Natty, pulseaudio is a dead duck and the developers are not >> interested at all about this it seems, they bounced any emails about it >> as they only talk to themselves not humble users, the plebs. >> > > > as i mentioned in another email on that very thread, all my microphone > problems are gone after i upgraded from maverick to natty. > pulseaudio doesn't seem to do a good job, i don't blame its developers, > i am sure they created it with good intentions, and linux does need a > form of central management for all its audio drivers and settings, but > unfortunately, it still is lacking. I'm pretty sure Colin would welcome some help! PA works great for lots of us. > a better solution for now, is to just report bugs in launchpad, and i am > very certain everyone of them will be looked at. > if you believe that bugs in launchpa are getting neglected, you can help > us bu being a bug triager, it requires no computer coding/programming > skills at all, just basic computer knowledge. Even those of us who are new to computers, can learn to file useful bugs. Last night I asked #ubuntu-kernel to help me file a useful bug, and they not only helped me to do that, they also solved my problem (non-working mic and headphones). Filing bugs is not complaining, it is helpful, useful, necessary. Those who want to learn to triage bugs are always needed! As Waleed says, one does not need to be an expert to help out. You soon learn which bugs need more information, and you can be the person to take the time to ask for that. > and emailing developers isn't going to do any good, in any open source > community. developer lists are for strict development talk... bug > control websites are the right place to go. Just as on any other list, please read some of the archives or read list traffic for awhile, unless you know you are posting on-topic content. Some projects use their IRC channels heavily, while others lean towards the list. Hang out for a bit, and give some help as well as getting it. That's how free and open source software works -- people helping one another out. Valorie -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez From faptagon at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:21:08 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 01:21:08 -0700 Subject: Who's Killing Lucid? Message-ID: From faptagon at gmail.com Thu May 26 08:26:16 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 01:26:16 -0700 Subject: Who's Killing Lucid? Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FirefoxMsg Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4654 bytes Desc: not available URL: From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Thu May 26 10:22:23 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:22:23 +0100 Subject: Hidden panel icons Message-ID: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> Using KDE 4.6. On the panel there is a small icon to bring up a list of hidden icons. Fine. I can add an icon to the panel from the menu easily enough. However when I do that it appears as a normal icon on the panel. What I am wondering is how to add an icon from the menu to the hidden icons panel. This would then mean that I would have to click on the hidden icons arrow to see it as part of the hidden icons list. It would not show as part of the normal panel. Hope I have made myself clear. Can anyone tell me how I add an icon from the menu to the hidden icons panel instead of the normal viewable panel? Thanks Neil From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Thu May 26 10:46:15 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:46:15 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4DDE2F77.8030906@gmail.com> On 26/05/11 12:22, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Using KDE 4.6. On the panel there is a small icon to bring up a list of > hidden icons. Fine. I can add an icon to the panel from the menu easily > enough. However when I do that it appears as a normal icon on the panel. > > What I am wondering is how to add an icon from the menu to the hidden > icons panel. This would then mean that I would have to click on the > hidden icons arrow to see it as part of the hidden icons list. It would > not show as part of the normal panel. > > Hope I have made myself clear. Can anyone tell me how I add an icon from > the menu to the hidden icons panel instead of the normal viewable panel? > > Thanks > > Neil > Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the settings window) click "entries". Now you can change the visibility of the items that are running. -- Isak ~~~~~ Powered by PCLinuxOS http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=2 From kubuntu-users at whamra.com Thu May 26 10:51:32 2011 From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:51:32 +0300 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: On 26 May 2011 13:22, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Using KDE 4.6. On the panel there is a small icon to bring up a list of > hidden icons. Fine. I can add an icon to the panel from the menu easily > enough. However when I do that it appears as a normal icon on the panel. > > What I am wondering is how to add an icon from the menu to the hidden icons > panel. This would then mean that I would have to click on the hidden icons > arrow to see it as part of the hidden icons list. It would not show as part > of the normal panel. > > Hope I have made myself clear. Can anyone tell me how I add an icon from the > menu to the hidden icons panel instead of the normal viewable panel? > > Thanks > > Neil > if i understand you correctly, you are talking about the little icons to the right side of the bottom panel (by default, location configurable of course). if that's the one, this is the system tray widget, which contains icons of running applications, and various system tray widgets inside it, like the weather forecast for example. to add widgets to it, make sure widgets are unlocked, then right click on the system tray, and click settings. i'm not at my computer now, but one of the tabs has a list of widgets to be added to the system tray, add whichever you want :) i removed the weather forecast few months ago when it was causing logout crashes... took me a while how to add it back, like you said, i kept adding it from the usual "add widgets" window, but that made it a regular big widget that doesnt fit in the system tray... a lot of googling (back then, yes a LOT was needed) till i found out that KDE now has this special window for system tray widgets. From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Thu May 26 14:48:36 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:48:36 +0100 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDE2F77.8030906@gmail.com> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <4DDE2F77.8030906@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DDE6844.1090007@drofle.co.uk> Isak Enström wrote: > On 26/05/11 12:22, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> Using KDE 4.6. On the panel there is a small icon to bring up a list of >> hidden icons. Fine. I can add an icon to the panel from the menu easily >> enough. However when I do that it appears as a normal icon on the panel. >> >> What I am wondering is how to add an icon from the menu to the hidden >> icons panel. This would then mean that I would have to click on the >> hidden icons arrow to see it as part of the hidden icons list. It would >> not show as part of the normal panel. >> >> Hope I have made myself clear. Can anyone tell me how I add an icon from >> the menu to the hidden icons panel instead of the normal viewable panel? >> >> Thanks >> >> Neil >> > > Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and > select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the settings > window) click "entries". Now you can change the visibility of the items > that are running. > Getting closer thanks. I have done as you suggested. When I look at the list of the items that are running the one I want to add is not there. Do I have to have the program running first? Or do I have to make it start running at log in? I realise it is no good adding the icon to the main part of the panel. Thanks Neil From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Thu May 26 14:57:20 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:57:20 -0400 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4DDE6A50.80909@optonline.net> On 05/26/2011 06:51 AM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 26 May 2011 13:22, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> Using KDE 4.6. On the panel there is a small icon to bring up a list of >> hidden icons. Fine. I can add an icon to the panel from the menu easily >> enough. However when I do that it appears as a normal icon on the panel. >> >> What I am wondering is how to add an icon from the menu to the hidden icons >> panel. This would then mean that I would have to click on the hidden icons >> arrow to see it as part of the hidden icons list. It would not show as part >> of the normal panel. >> >> Hope I have made myself clear. Can anyone tell me how I add an icon from the >> menu to the hidden icons panel instead of the normal viewable panel? >> >> Thanks >> >> Neil >> > if i understand you correctly, you are talking about the little icons > to the right side of the bottom panel (by default, location > configurable of course). if that's the one, this is the system tray > widget, which contains icons of running applications, and various > system tray widgets inside it, like the weather forecast for example. > to add widgets to it, make sure widgets are unlocked, then right click > on the system tray, and click settings. i'm not at my computer now, > but one of the tabs has a list of widgets to be added to the system > tray, add whichever you want :) > i removed the weather forecast few months ago when it was causing > logout crashes... took me a while how to add it back, like you said, i > kept adding it from the usual "add widgets" window, but that made it a > regular big widget that doesnt fit in the system tray... a lot of > googling (back then, yes a LOT was needed) till i found out that KDE > now has this special window for system tray widgets. > Please explain further. I tried to add the weather report. I snapped on the "sun" icon, but then I got a window that I didn't understand, offering me a choice of one of three selections--the top one was something about plasma, which I don't guess I want, and the third one asked for me to type in a name, which I put in "Weather Report" and then it said I don't have that on my system, or something to that effect. I don't remember what the second choice was. I want to put the weather report widget down in the right-hand end of the panel, just like you said. Thanx--doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Thu May 26 15:08:12 2011 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:08:12 -0400 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4DDE6CDC.7020500@optonline.net> On 05/26/2011 06:51 AM, Waleed Hamra wrote: > On 26 May 2011 13:22, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> Using KDE 4.6. On the panel there is a small icon to bring up a list of >> hidden icons. Fine. I can add an icon to the panel from the menu easily >> enough. However when I do that it appears as a normal icon on the panel. >> >> What I am wondering is how to add an icon from the menu to the hidden icons >> panel. This would then mean that I would have to click on the hidden icons >> arrow to see it as part of the hidden icons list. It would not show as part >> of the normal panel. >> >> Hope I have made myself clear. Can anyone tell me how I add an icon from the >> menu to the hidden icons panel instead of the normal viewable panel? >> >> Thanks >> >> Neil >> > if i understand you correctly, you are talking about the little icons > to the right side of the bottom panel (by default, location > configurable of course). if that's the one, this is the system tray > widget, which contains icons of running applications, and various > system tray widgets inside it, like the weather forecast for example. > to add widgets to it, make sure widgets are unlocked, then right click > on the system tray, and click settings. i'm not at my computer now, > but one of the tabs has a list of widgets to be added to the system > tray, add whichever you want :) > i removed the weather forecast few months ago when it was causing > logout crashes... took me a while how to add it back, like you said, i > kept adding it from the usual "add widgets" window, but that made it a > regular big widget that doesnt fit in the system tray... a lot of > googling (back then, yes a LOT was needed) till i found out that KDE > now has this special window for system tray widgets. > Please ignore previous message. After I escaped from the 3 message stuff, I didn't notice I had a "configure" request down near the panel, so I did that, and sure enough, I now have a little cloud icon at the end of the panel after the digital time, and when I snap on that, I get the local forecast for today and the coming week. Great idea! Thanx for pointing me in this direction! --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Thu May 26 15:19:46 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?SXNhayBFbnN0csO2bQ==?=) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:19:46 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDE6844.1090007@drofle.co.uk> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <4DDE2F77.8030906@gmail.com> <4DDE6844.1090007@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4DDE6F92.9070500@gmail.com> On 26/05/11 16:48, Neil Winchurst wrote: > Isak Enström wrote: >> Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and >> select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the settings >> window) click "entries". Now you can change the visibility of the items >> that are running. >> > Getting closer thanks. I have done as you suggested. When I look at the > list of the items that are running the one I want to add is not there. > Do I have to have the program running first? Or do I have to make it > start running at log in? I realise it is no good adding the icon to the > main part of the panel. > > Thanks > > Neil > Yes you have to have the program running when you do the above steps. It should not be necessary to have it starting at log on however. -- Isak ~~~~~ Powered by PCLinuxOS http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=2 From ubuntu at kitterman.com Thu May 26 17:05:29 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:05:29 -0400 Subject: Who's Killing Lucid? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105261305.29737.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Thursday, May 26, 2011 04:26:16 AM Bill vance wrote: > What happens if you just install Kubuntu without Firefox or Gnome? KDE support for Pulseaudio in KDE 4.4 is non-existant, which is why we didn't ship with it in 10.04 (lucid). I've got two systems here running Lucid that work fine with Firefox, but they are upgrades from Natty. When the Kubuntu ISOs were respun for 10.04.2 (you don't say, but do you have the 10.04.2 ISO or an earlier one - the 10.04.2 ISO comes with KDE 4.4.5 and so should be best) installation tests were done and they worked, so please try just Kubuntu and see if you can get that working first. Scott K From tanghus at gmail.com Thu May 26 19:37:27 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 21:37:27 +0200 Subject: Who's Killing Lucid? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201105262137.28550.tanghus@gmail.com> On Thursday 26 May 2011 10:26:16 Bill vance wrote: > What is this FirefoxMsg? Neither KMail nor GMail recognizes it. -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From kassube at gmx.net Thu May 26 20:03:12 2011 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 22:03:12 +0200 Subject: Who's Killing Lucid? In-Reply-To: <201105262137.28550.tanghus@gmail.com> References: <201105262137.28550.tanghus@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105262203.12453.kassube@gmx.net> Thomas Olsen wrote: > On Thursday 26 May 2011 10:26:16 Bill vance wrote: > What is this FirefoxMsg? Neither KMail nor GMail recognizes it. You can open it with kate - it is a simple text file. Nils From claydoh at claydoh.com Thu May 26 21:04:10 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:04:10 -0400 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDE6F92.9070500@gmail.com> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <4DDE6844.1090007@drofle.co.uk> <4DDE6F92.9070500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201105261704.10851.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:19:46 AM Isak Enström wrote: > Re: Hidden panel icons > From: > Isak Enström > To: > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: > Today 11:19:46 AM > > Spam Status: Spamassassin Spam filter score could not be extracted from > header. > > Full report: > No, score=-6.5 > > On 26/05/11 16:48, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > Isak Enström wrote: > >> Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and > >> select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the settings The application itself needs to be designed to have a systray icon. Firefox, for example does not so it won't be available in there. You might try looking at various Taskbar replacements such as smooth tasks and fancy tasks. These iirc have more options and can iconify an application's taskbar entry or try the quicklaunch plasma widget, whiich is probably more what you are looking to use. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org http://emacdogsports.com From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Thu May 26 21:09:25 2011 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:09:25 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105261704.10851.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <4DDE6F92.9070500@gmail.com> <201105261704.10851.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201105262309.25379.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> On Thursday 26 May 2011 23:04:10 Clay Weber wrote: > On Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:19:46 AM Isak Enström wrote: > > Re: Hidden panel icons > > From: > > Isak Enström > > > > To: > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Date: > > Today 11:19:46 AM > > > > Spam Status: Spamassassin Spam filter score could not be extracted from > > > > header. > > > > Full report: > > No, score=-6.5 > > > > On 26/05/11 16:48, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > Isak Enström wrote: > > >> Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and > > >> select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the > > >> settings > > The application itself needs to be designed to have a systray icon. > Firefox, for example does not so it won't be available in there. You might > try looking at various Taskbar replacements such as smooth tasks and fancy > tasks. These iirc have more options and can iconify an application's > taskbar entry > > or try the quicklaunch plasma widget, whiich is probably more what you are > looking to use. You can give any application a system tray icon by checking the "Place in system tray" option in the menu editor. (But I'm not sure they can be hidden.) Anja From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Thu May 26 21:17:44 2011 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:17:44 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105262309.25379.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105261704.10851.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201105262309.25379.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201105262317.44388.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> On Thursday 26 May 2011 23:09:25 Anj Tuesday wrote: > On Thursday 26 May 2011 23:04:10 Clay Weber wrote: > > On Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:19:46 AM Isak Enström wrote: > > > Re: Hidden panel icons > > > From: > > > Isak Enström > > > > > > To: > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > Date: > > > Today 11:19:46 AM > > > > > > Spam Status: Spamassassin Spam filter score could not be extracted > > > from > > > > > > header. > > > > > > Full report: > > > No, score=-6.5 > > > > > > On 26/05/11 16:48, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > > Isak Enström wrote: > > > >> Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and > > > >> select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the > > > >> settings > > > > The application itself needs to be designed to have a systray icon. > > Firefox, for example does not so it won't be available in there. You > > might try looking at various Taskbar replacements such as smooth tasks > > and fancy tasks. These iirc have more options and can iconify an > > application's taskbar entry > > > > or try the quicklaunch plasma widget, whiich is probably more what you > > are looking to use. > > You can give any application a system tray icon by checking the "Place in > system tray" option in the menu editor. (But I'm not sure they can be > hidden.) Oh, and you can add visible-if-not-running launcers to the taskbar by right-clicking a running application's taskbar entry -> Advanced -> Show A Launcher For [Whatever] When It Is Not Running. The capitalisation seems a little odd, is that a third party add-on I forgot I installed? Either way, it's very handy to have. :) From claydoh at claydoh.com Thu May 26 21:24:55 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:24:55 -0400 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105262309.25379.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105261704.10851.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201105262309.25379.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Thursday, May 26, 2011 05:09:25 PM Anj Tuesday wrote: > On Thursday 26 May 2011 23:04:10 Clay Weber wrote: > > On Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:19:46 AM Isak Enström wrote: > > > Re: Hidden panel icons > > > From: > > > Isak Enström > > > > > > To: > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > Date: > > > Today 11:19:46 AM > > > > > > Spam Status: Spamassassin Spam filter score could not be extracted > > > from > > > > > > header. > > > > > > Full report: > > > No, score=-6.5 > > > > > > On 26/05/11 16:48, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > > Isak Enström wrote: > > > >> Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and > > > >> select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the > > > >> settings > > > > The application itself needs to be designed to have a systray icon. > > Firefox, for example does not so it won't be available in there. You > > might try looking at various Taskbar replacements such as smooth tasks > > and fancy tasks. These iirc have more options and can iconify an > > application's taskbar entry > > > > or try the quicklaunch plasma widget, whiich is probably more what you > > are looking to use. > > You can give any application a system tray icon by checking the "Place in > system tray" option in the menu editor. (But I'm not sure they can be > hidden.) > > Anja But does it work? I don't seem to be able to. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org http://emacdogsports.com From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Thu May 26 21:32:55 2011 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:32:55 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105262309.25379.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <201105262332.55792.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> On Thursday 26 May 2011 23:24:55 Clay Weber wrote: > On Thursday, May 26, 2011 05:09:25 PM Anj Tuesday wrote: > > On Thursday 26 May 2011 23:04:10 Clay Weber wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:19:46 AM Isak Enström wrote: > > > > Re: Hidden panel icons > > > > From: > > > > Isak Enström > > > > > > > > To: > > > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > > > > > Date: > > > > Today 11:19:46 AM > > > > > > > > Spam Status: Spamassassin Spam filter score could not be extracted > > > > from > > > > > > > > header. > > > > > > > > Full report: > > > > No, score=-6.5 > > > > > > > > On 26/05/11 16:48, Neil Winchurst wrote: > > > > > Isak Enström wrote: > > > > >> Right click the icon that brings up the list of hidden entries and > > > > >> select "system tray settings". In the list on the left (in the > > > > >> settings > > > > > > The application itself needs to be designed to have a systray icon. > > > Firefox, for example does not so it won't be available in there. You > > > might try looking at various Taskbar replacements such as smooth tasks > > > and fancy tasks. These iirc have more options and can iconify an > > > application's taskbar entry > > > > > > or try the quicklaunch plasma widget, whiich is probably more what you > > > are looking to use. > > > > You can give any application a system tray icon by checking the "Place in > > system tray" option in the menu editor. (But I'm not sure they can be > > hidden.) > > > > Anja > > But does it work? I don't seem to be able to. It works for me (KDE 4.6.3), if the application is launched from the menu, not the command line or similar method. Anja From tanghus at gmail.com Thu May 26 21:47:40 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:47:40 +0200 Subject: Who's Killing Lucid? In-Reply-To: <201105262203.12453.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201105262137.28550.tanghus@gmail.com> <201105262203.12453.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201105262347.41142.tanghus@gmail.com> On Thursday 26 May 2011 22:03:12 Nils Kassube wrote: > Thomas Olsen wrote: > > On Thursday 26 May 2011 10:26:16 Bill vance wrote: > > What is this FirefoxMsg? Neither KMail nor GMail recognizes it. > > You can open it with kate - it is a simple text file. Crappy MUA that attaches text as application/octet-stream -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri May 27 07:00:39 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 09:00:39 +0200 Subject: xine or gstream Message-ID: <4DDF4C17.5000704@gmail.com> Does anyone know why gstream is supposed to be better or why it was chosen as backend in Natty 11.04? To me it seems like things that worked before in Kaffeine now does not, and that video playback is choppier than it was. Best regards Sinclair From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Fri May 27 09:35:44 2011 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Isak_Enstr=F6m?=) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:35:44 +0200 Subject: xine or gstream In-Reply-To: <4DDF4C17.5000704@gmail.com> References: <4DDF4C17.5000704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DDF7070.4090505@gmail.com> On 27/05/11 09:00, O. Sinclair wrote: > Does anyone know why gstream is supposed to be better or why it was > chosen as backend in Natty 11.04? To me it seems like things that worked > before in Kaffeine now does not, and that video playback is choppier > than it was. > > Best regards > Sinclair > I think that the gstreamer backend was chosen because it can allow you to search for missing codecs when trying to play a file that could otherwise not be played. It might have something to do with consistency between different *buntus also. I'm using the VLC backend myself (as is standard in PCLOS) and it's working fine for me. a quick google found this, from: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/kubuntu-11-04-sneak-peek-uds-cookie/ "QtWebKit is changing to a less sophisticated solution that hard-depends on the GStreamer framework, consequently we will have to provide GStreamer on the Kubuntu CD to support HTML5 audio/video in our current default browser Rekonq. Additionally OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice on Ubuntu also depends on GStreamer, so it only seems a logical option to switch all of Kubuntu to GStreamer" -- Isak ~~~~~ Powered by PCLinuxOS http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=2 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri May 27 10:36:32 2011 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 12:36:32 +0200 Subject: xine or gstream In-Reply-To: <4DDF7070.4090505@gmail.com> References: <4DDF4C17.5000704@gmail.com> <4DDF7070.4090505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DDF7EB0.1070005@gmail.com> On 27/05/2011 11:35, Isak Enström wrote: > On 27/05/11 09:00, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Does anyone know why gstream is supposed to be better or why it was >> chosen as backend in Natty 11.04? To me it seems like things that worked >> before in Kaffeine now does not, and that video playback is choppier >> than it was. >> >> Best regards >> Sinclair >> > > I think that the gstreamer backend was chosen because it can allow you > to search for missing codecs when trying to play a file that could > otherwise not be played. It might have something to do with consistency > between different *buntus also. > > I'm using the VLC backend myself (as is standard in PCLOS) and it's > working fine for me. > > a quick google found this, from: > http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/kubuntu-11-04-sneak-peek-uds-cookie/ > > > "QtWebKit is changing to a less sophisticated solution that hard-depends > on the GStreamer framework, consequently we will have to provide > GStreamer on the Kubuntu CD to support HTML5 audio/video in our current > default browser Rekonq. Additionally OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice on > Ubuntu also depends on GStreamer, so it only seems a logical option to > switch all of Kubuntu to GStreamer" > > just to confuse things it seems they want to switch to vlc backend... I now have all 3 installed, will see what works best From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Fri May 27 10:43:10 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:43:10 +0100 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105261704.10851.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201105262309.25379.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> Message-ID: <4DDF803E.3000806@drofle.co.uk> Clay Weber wrote: >>> >>> The application itself needs to be designed to have a systray icon. >>> Firefox, for example does not so it won't be available in there. You >>> might try looking at various Taskbar replacements such as smooth tasks >>> and fancy tasks. These iirc have more options and can iconify an >>> application's taskbar entry >>> >>> or try the quicklaunch plasma widget, whiich is probably more what you >>> are looking to use. >> >> You can give any application a system tray icon by checking the "Place in >> system tray" option in the menu editor. (But I'm not sure they can be >> hidden.) >> Not one of the options when I try that. The idea behind my question was that there are some programs that I use only occasionally and which I therefore do not need to have either on the desktop or the panel. Example is gnupg. (That one was automatically placed in the hidden icons list for me). I know that I can use the menus for this. It just seemed like a good idea to place such items among the hidden icons list. This would then not clutter up the panel with items that I rarely use and would be quicker than using the menus when I did want to run it. As I said, it is not that important. I will leave it all alone and use the menus as and when. Neil From tanghus at gmail.com Fri May 27 11:56:55 2011 From: tanghus at gmail.com (Thomas Olsen) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:56:55 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDF803E.3000806@drofle.co.uk> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> <4DDF803E.3000806@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201105271356.57041.tanghus@gmail.com> On Friday 27 May 2011 12:43:10 Neil Winchurst wrote: > I know that I can use the menus for this. It just seemed like a good > idea to place such items among the hidden icons list. This would then > not clutter up the panel with items that I rarely use and would be > quicker than using the menus when I did want to run it. Or use krunner. ALT-F2 and start typing the application name. Much faster than going thru menus. -- Best regards / med venlig hilsen Thomas Olsen Dropbox and my thumb drive had an epic battle. Dropbox won. http://db.tt/T0p6d6L From mailing-lists-mmvi at bretschneidernet.de Fri May 27 13:13:38 2011 From: mailing-lists-mmvi at bretschneidernet.de (Martin Bretschneider) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:13:38 +0200 Subject: strange update notfification Message-ID: <4DDFA382.6080500@bretschneidernet.de> Hi, I have kubtuntu 11.04 on x64. Since 11.04 if there are updates for packages I get a untranslated notification like http://www.bretschneidernet.de/tmp/update.png with the two functionless and useless buttons "later" and "reboot". Few minutes later the real updates notification with the green gear appears in the tray area where I can click and start kpackagekit and do the updates. Can you please tell me what the purpose of the first notification is and how I can disable it? TIA Martin From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Fri May 27 13:37:22 2011 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:37:22 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDF803E.3000806@drofle.co.uk> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> <4DDF803E.3000806@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201105271537.22243.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> On Friday 27 May 2011 12:43:10 Neil Winchurst wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > >>> The application itself needs to be designed to have a systray icon. > >>> Firefox, for example does not so it won't be available in there. You > >>> might try looking at various Taskbar replacements such as smooth tasks > >>> and fancy tasks. These iirc have more options and can iconify an > >>> application's taskbar entry > >>> > >>> or try the quicklaunch plasma widget, whiich is probably more what you > >>> are looking to use. > >> > >> You can give any application a system tray icon by checking the "Place > >> in system tray" option in the menu editor. (But I'm not sure they can > >> be hidden.) > > Not one of the options when I try that. Odd... then again, I don't know when they added that. (KDE 4.6.3 here.) > The idea behind my question > was that there are some programs that I use only occasionally and > which I therefore do not need to have either on the desktop or the > panel. Example is gnupg. (That one was automatically placed in the > hidden icons list for me). > > I know that I can use the menus for this. It just seemed like a good > idea to place such items among the hidden icons list. This would then > not clutter up the panel with items that I rarely use and would be > quicker than using the menus when I did want to run it. > > As I said, it is not that important. I will leave it all alone and use > the menus as and when. I think the tray is for stuff that's actually running, to display status and notifications. But if you're using the fancy (non-"menu") application launcher, adding an application to the Favourites tab will give you pretty much that: the launchers won't add panel clutter, and they'll be a single click away. Anja From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri May 27 13:59:41 2011 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 07:59:41 -0600 Subject: CPU monitor plasmoid changed style of display In-Reply-To: <4DD1520F.2000908@gmail.com> References: <4DD1520F.2000908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4DDFAE4D.8000509@gmail.com> D. R. Evans said the following at 05/16/2011 10:34 AM : > I've been running the CPU monitor in my taskbar since getting natty > working. Until today, its display was the same size as, for example, the > network monitor, and its tooltip would display the precise CPU percentage > in use. > > As far as I know I have changed nothing, but this morning its display is > now about twice as wide as before, and the CPU percentage is permanently > visible superimposed on the graphical display (the tooltip still behaves as > it did before). I can't find any setting to control this kind of display > behaviour and I have no idea why it is suddenly different from how it's > looked for the past few days. > > Does anyone know how to control this behaviour? I'm not sure which of the > two displays I prefer, but I'd sure like to know how to switch between them > in a controlled manner so I can see which I end up preferring. Rebooting restored the old display of the plasmoid... still with no indication of how to switch between the two types of display. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 262 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Fri May 27 17:13:53 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:13:53 +0100 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105271537.22243.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> <4DDF803E.3000806@drofle.co.uk> <201105271537.22243.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4DDFDBD1.7000400@drofle.co.uk> Anj Tuesday wrote: > > I think the tray is for stuff that's actually running, to display status > and notifications. But if you're using the fancy (non-"menu") application > launcher, adding an application to the Favourites tab will give you pretty > much that: the launchers won't add panel clutter, and they'll be a single > click away. > > Anja > Yes. Add to the favourites tab is one of the choices. I have never looked at that, so I don't know where that tab is. More research!! Neil From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Fri May 27 17:19:46 2011 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:19:46 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDFDBD1.7000400@drofle.co.uk> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105271537.22243.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> <4DDFDBD1.7000400@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201105271919.46181.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> On Friday 27 May 2011 19:13:53 Neil Winchurst wrote: > Anj Tuesday wrote: > > I think the tray is for stuff that's actually running, to display status > > and notifications. But if you're using the fancy (non-"menu") application > > launcher, adding an application to the Favourites tab will give you > > pretty much that: the launchers won't add panel clutter, and they'll be > > a single click away. > > > > Anja > > Yes. Add to the favourites tab is one of the choices. I have never > looked at that, so I don't know where that tab is. More research!! Oh, it's the first thing that pops up when you click on the "application launcher" widget. From claydoh at claydoh.com Fri May 27 17:25:55 2011 From: claydoh at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 13:25:55 -0400 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105262332.55792.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105261724.55173.claydoh@claydoh.com> <201105262332.55792.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201105271325.56054.claydoh@claydoh.com> On Thursday, May 26, 2011 05:32:55 PM Anj Tuesday wrote: > > > You can give any application a system tray icon by checking the "Place > > > in system tray" option in the menu editor. (But I'm not sure they can > > > be hidden.) > > > > > > Anja > > > > But does it work? I don't seem to be able to. > > It works for me (KDE 4.6.3), if the application is launched from the menu, > not the command line or similar method. > > Anja It started to work after logged back in -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org http://emacdogsports.com From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Fri May 27 17:47:06 2011 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:47:06 +0100 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <201105271919.46181.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105271537.22243.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> <4DDFDBD1.7000400@drofle.co.uk> <201105271919.46181.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4DDFE39A.7050207@drofle.co.uk> Anj Tuesday wrote: > On Friday 27 May 2011 19:13:53 Neil Winchurst wrote: >> Anj Tuesday wrote: >>> I think the tray is for stuff that's actually running, to display status >>> and notifications. But if you're using the fancy (non-"menu") application >>> launcher, adding an application to the Favourites tab will give you >>> pretty much that: the launchers won't add panel clutter, and they'll be >>> a single click away. >>> >>> Anja >> >> Yes. Add to the favourites tab is one of the choices. I have never >> looked at that, so I don't know where that tab is. More research!! > > Oh, it's the first thing that pops up when you click on the "application > launcher" widget. > Well, I have had a look at the favourites tab. First of all, it does appear in the menus but the icon (a yellow star) does not appear on the panel. (And I cannot find a way to get it there.) So to use something in the favourites list I have to open the Application Launcher then click on Favorites then select the relevant item from that list. A bit long winded. I should mention that I have the Application Launcher Menu set to the Classic mode. Perhaps that is the problem. Neil From anj.tuesday at gmx.net Fri May 27 17:57:44 2011 From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 19:57:44 +0200 Subject: Hidden panel icons In-Reply-To: <4DDFE39A.7050207@drofle.co.uk> References: <4DDE29DF.2010505@drofle.co.uk> <201105271919.46181.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> <4DDFE39A.7050207@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201105271957.44302.anj.tuesday@gmx.net> On Friday 27 May 2011 19:47:06 Neil Winchurst wrote: > Anj Tuesday wrote: > > On Friday 27 May 2011 19:13:53 Neil Winchurst wrote: > >> Anj Tuesday wrote: > >>> I think the tray is for stuff that's actually running, to display > >>> status and notifications. But if you're using the fancy (non-"menu") > >>> application launcher, adding an application to the Favourites tab will > >>> give you pretty much that: the launchers won't add panel clutter, and > >>> they'll be a single click away. > >>> > >>> Anja > >> > >> Yes. Add to the favourites tab is one of the choices. I have never > >> looked at that, so I don't know where that tab is. More research!! > > > > Oh, it's the first thing that pops up when you click on the "application > > launcher" widget. > > Well, I have had a look at the favourites tab. First of all, it does > appear in the menus but the icon (a yellow star) does not appear on > the panel. (And I cannot find a way to get it there.) So to use > something in the favourites list I have to open the Application > Launcher then click on Favorites then select the relevant item from > that list. A bit long winded. I should mention that I have the > Application Launcher Menu set to the Classic mode. Perhaps that is the > problem. Yes, it's a single step with the new-style Application Launcher widget. But you *can* set a(nother) "classic" menu up so that it'll show *only* your favourite applications. It should not sequester them away into a submenu then. Anj From faptagon at gmail.com Sat May 28 05:40:30 2011 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:40:30 -0700 Subject: Who's Killing Lucid? Message-ID: > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:05:29 -0400 > From: Scott Kitterman > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: Who's Killing Lucid? > > On Thursday, May 26, 2011 04:26:16 AM Bill vance wrote: >> > What happens if you just install Kubuntu without Firefox or Gnome? KDE > support for Pulseaudio in KDE 4.4 is non-existant, which is why we didn't > ship > with it in 10.04 (lucid). > > I've got two systems here running Lucid that work fine with Firefox, but > they > are upgrades from Natty. When the Kubuntu ISOs were respun for 10.04.2 (you > don't say, but do you have the 10.04.2 ISO or an earlier one - the 10.04.2 > ISO > comes with KDE 4.4.5 and so should be best) installation tests were done and > they worked, so please try just Kubuntu and see if you can get that working > first. > > Scott K Ok, I started with a downloaded iso of 10.04 Ubuntu, burned it to DVD, and everything seemed fine. Then I did a redo install, and it all seemed ok for a brief period of time. Until that is, the updates started to arrive, and then everything went to hell. At your suggestion, (above), I downloaded iso's for both Ubuntu, and Kubuntu, (10.04.2). I tried the Ubuntu install twice, and each time it looked ok at first, and then once again, they went South. I tried the Kubuntu install twice, too. The first time it seemed ok, and when I used synaptic to get a bunch of kde files that seemed to be absent; User admin, and etc. Somewhere in all that mess, I noticed a whole bunch of gnome files being transfered along with all the rest. Very shortly after that, things went South again. So I tried once more, being as careful as possible to keep the gnome stuff to a minimum, and this has resulted, (so far), in an apperently workable system, albeit a somewhat cranky one. I'm _still_ getting weird messages from firefox, but at least it sorta works now. Sorry about the attachment, but it seems to be the only way I can get any kind of sizable file into the firefox/gmail combination, for sending mail, and that's somewhat iffy, too. Bill From ubuntu at kitterman.com Sun May 29 00:13:02 2011 From: ubuntu at kitterman.com (Scott Kitterman) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:13:02 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu Council Election Nominations In-Reply-To: <201105212211.17624.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <201105212211.17624.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: <201105282013.02806.ubuntu@kitterman.com> On Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:11:17 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > I see I've gotten a bit behind on the announced process. Nominations were > supposed to finish last Wednesday. Here's who I have (in no particular > order): > > Valorie Zimmerman (valorie) > Harald Sitter (apachelogger) > Jonathan Thomas (JontheEchidna) > Terence Simpson (tsimpson) > David Wonderly (DarkwingDuck) > Clay Weber (claydoh) Results are in: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi- perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_714f581d4fc2dad7 Congratulations to Harald Sitter (apachelogger), Jonathan Thomas (JontheEchidna), and David Wonderly (DarkwingDuck). Thanks to everyone else for participating. Now back to your regularly scheduled Kubuntu'ing. Scott K From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun May 29 01:58:32 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 18:58:32 -0700 Subject: Kubuntu Council Election Nominations In-Reply-To: <201105282013.02806.ubuntu@kitterman.com> References: <201105212211.17624.ubuntu@kitterman.com> <201105282013.02806.ubuntu@kitterman.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:11:17 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: ::snip:: > Results are in: > http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_714f581d4fc2dad7 > > Congratulations to  Harald Sitter (apachelogger), Jonathan Thomas > (JontheEchidna), and David Wonderly (DarkwingDuck).  Thanks to everyone else > for participating. > > Now back to your regularly scheduled Kubuntu'ing. > > Scott K Congratulations to Harald Sitter (apachelogger), Jonathan Thomas (JontheEchidna), and David Wonderly (DarkwingDuck). I know you'll all do a great job! Thanks to our retiring Council members for their service, and to ScottK for running the election. Thanks also to all who took the time to vote. Valorie -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun May 29 02:24:30 2011 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 19:24:30 -0700 Subject: xine or gstream In-Reply-To: <4DDF7EB0.1070005@gmail.com> References: <4DDF4C17.5000704@gmail.com> <4DDF7070.4090505@gmail.com> <4DDF7EB0.1070005@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:36 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 27/05/2011 11:35, Isak Enström wrote: >> >> On 27/05/11 09:00, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know why gstream is supposed to be better or why it was >>> chosen as backend in Natty 11.04? To me it seems like things that worked >>> before in Kaffeine now does not, and that video playback is choppier >>> than it was. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Sinclair >>> >> >> I think that the gstreamer backend was chosen because it can allow you >> to search for missing codecs when trying to play a file that could >> otherwise not be played. It might have something to do with consistency >> between different *buntus also. >> >> I'm using the VLC backend myself (as is standard in PCLOS) and it's >> working fine for me. >> >> a quick google found this, from: >> >> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/kubuntu-11-04-sneak-peek-uds-cookie/ >> >> >> "QtWebKit is changing to a less sophisticated solution that hard-depends >> on the GStreamer framework, consequently we will have to provide >> GStreamer on the Kubuntu CD to support HTML5 audio/video in our current >> default browser Rekonq. Additionally OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice on >> Ubuntu also depends on GStreamer, so it only seems a logical option to >> switch all of Kubuntu to GStreamer" >> > just to confuse things it seems they want to switch to vlc backend... I now > have all 3 installed, will see what works best Short answer is that xine is unmaintained now, while Phonon and phonon-vlc and phonon-gst are all under heavy development. The Amarok team has been betting on phonon-vlc, but in my experience, phonon-gst is even better, even with all built from GIT. Another advantage of Gstreamer is that ubuntu and gnome use it, thus we might be coalescing around ONE backend, rather than the multiples we've been suffering with for so long. Once pulseaudio improves a bit more, sound in Linux might become not only excellent, but EASY. Until that time, it's rather easy to have two or three backends, and switch to what works best under the circumstances. Help out by reporting bugs, or even showing up and helping the development teams. Speed the day! Valorie -- http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com Last.fm, Facebook, Twitter, Identica, LinkedIn, Delicious: valoriez