From nicafyl at gmail.com  Sun Apr  1 22:05:23 2012
From: nicafyl at gmail.com (Phil Hughes)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:05:23 -0600
Subject: 12.04 Beta 2 and PAE
Message-ID: <CAAu-d+nUVHR8VHbQw98wp33qofkrLtLLroBR8ud_vSriZBoqGg@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like another release I cannot test on on T42 -- my testing
"standard". Why require PAE (and this isn't the first time I have asked
about this in various releases) in the 386 kernel version?

-- 
Phil Hughes
nicafyl at gmail.com
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From theuteck at gmail.com  Mon Apr  2 17:24:41 2012
From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:24:41 -0500
Subject: RTL8188ce
In-Reply-To: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
References: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8183407.tgNK0KCRAK@allmine>

Have you looked at the instructions on this page:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580036

On Friday, March 30, 2012 12:33:51 PM Pastor JW wrote:
> Has anyone here ever been able to get a driver working for the RTL8188ce
> wireless controller?  I've tried everything I could find on it for the past
> two days.  This is on a Kubuntu 10.04 install.  Thanks for any help!



From john at pearcey.net  Tue Apr  3 09:36:52 2012
From: john at pearcey.net (John)
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 10:36:52 +0100
Subject: kubuntu
Message-ID: <1439117.6Dd5sFnLN8@johndev>

Hi guys,

I've been working with computers for over 30 years and professionally for the 
last 15 years. In all that time, I've learnt to hate them with a vengence, 
Windoze, Mac, Linux, the lot of them. But, having just installed kubuntu 
11.10, this is the first time I have enjoyed using a computer since getting my 
Jupiter-ACE in 1982. I had a couple of issues, but very minor compaired with 
most distros and after fixing them, the whole system works beatifully. I 
actually feel inspired to contribute! Maybe if I can find some time this 
year... Thanks guys.
John



From james.cain.25 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  3 11:53:28 2012
From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:53:28 -0400
Subject: kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <CAGzoOB-jx2QbTZVyv76-LjeJMjCRyKstyDYaK8xpJktUoPOa8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1439117.6Dd5sFnLN8@johndev>
	<CAGzoOB-jx2QbTZVyv76-LjeJMjCRyKstyDYaK8xpJktUoPOa8g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+6ejqA-wx+qE3CpFcn8pi8pD3PGNXi=sUuVxcK+b8wnDntOgg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Myriam Schweingruber <myriam at kubuntu.org>wrote:

> JFYI :-)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John <john at pearcey.net>
> Date: Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:36
> Subject: kubuntu
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I've been working with computers for over 30 years and professionally for
> the
> last 15 years. In all that time, I've learnt to hate them with a vengence,
> Windoze, Mac, Linux, the lot of them. But, having just installed kubuntu
> 11.10, this is the first time I have enjoyed using a computer since
> getting my
> Jupiter-ACE in 1982. I had a couple of issues, but very minor compaired
> with
> most distros and after fixing them, the whole system works beatifully. I
> actually feel inspired to contribute! Maybe if I can find some time this
> year... Thanks guys.
> John
>
> --
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> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>
>
> --
> Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE:
> http://www.fsfe.org
> Please don't send me proprietary file formats,
> use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300)
>
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Thanks for sharing! 12.04 looks to be even better. Stay tuned :)

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From rev.olson at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 22:14:13 2012
From: rev.olson at gmail.com (Pastor JW)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 15:14:13 -0700
Subject: RTL8188ce
In-Reply-To: <8183407.tgNK0KCRAK@allmine>
References: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
	<8183407.tgNK0KCRAK@allmine>
Message-ID: <201204041514.14337.rev.olson@gmail.com>

 On Friday, March 30, 2012 12:33:51 PM Pastor JW wrote:
> Has anyone here ever been able to get a driver working for the RTL8188ce
> wireless controller?  I've tried everything I could find on it for the
> past two days.  This is on a Kubuntu 10.04 install.  Thanks for any
> help!

Nope, apparently no-one else has made it work either.   In that case does 
anyone have a good recommendation for a USB wireless dongle?

-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 23:03:21 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 09:03:21 +1000
Subject: 4.8.2 Update
Message-ID: <1920787.fKasT1naoA@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

4.8.2 update on Kubuntu 12.04 is looking pretty good - seems to fix two long 
standing issues for me

- kactivitymanager crash on startup

- firefox being closed improperly on shutdown, leading to a warning on startup


Also 64 flash has been working reliably for a while now and the akonadi-google 
conector is giving me reliable sync with google calendar, tasks and contacts, 
you have to build it yourself though.

Best release yet
-- 
Lindsay



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Thu Apr  5 05:55:43 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 07:55:43 +0200
Subject: 4.8.2 Update
In-Reply-To: <1920787.fKasT1naoA@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <1920787.fKasT1naoA@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <4F7D33DF.5020706@gmail.com>

On 05/04/12 01:03, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> 4.8.2 update on Kubuntu 12.04 is looking pretty good - seems to fix two long
> standing issues for me
>
> - kactivitymanager crash on startup
>
> - firefox being closed improperly on shutdown, leading to a warning on startup
>
>
> Also 64 flash has been working reliably for a while now and the akonadi-google
> conector is giving me reliable sync with google calendar, tasks and contacts,
> you have to build it yourself though.
>
> Best release yet
if you use KMail or Kontact, can you check if autocompletion of email 
addresses from an addressbook when composing an email works? And 
Distribution Lists, as they are affected by the same bug/regression in 
4.8.0 and 4.8.1

Kindly
Sinclair



From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Apr  5 06:10:19 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:10:19 +0200
Subject: RTL8188ce
In-Reply-To: <201204041514.14337.rev.olson@gmail.com>
References: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
	<8183407.tgNK0KCRAK@allmine>
	<201204041514.14337.rev.olson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204050810.19714.kassube@gmx.net>

Pastor JW wrote:
> Nope, apparently no-one else has made it work either.   In that case
> does anyone have a good recommendation for a USB wireless dongle?

The one I use is the TP-Link TL-WN821N which works since Natty (IIRC). 
And you can make it work with Lucid if you install the appropriate 
"linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-*" package for your 
kernel and the latest "linux-firmware" (Natty or later) from 
<http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/all/linux-firmware/download>.


Nils



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Thu Apr  5 12:05:05 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:05:05 +1000
Subject: 4.8.2 Update
In-Reply-To: <4F7D33DF.5020706@gmail.com>
References: <1920787.fKasT1naoA@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<4F7D33DF.5020706@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1407268.dsIRY6mE0u@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:55:43 AM O. Sinclair wrote:
> if you use KMail or Kontact, can you check if autocompletion of email 
> addresses from an addressbook when composing an email works? 

Still broken. Only "Recent addresses" works.

> And 
> Distribution Lists, as they are affected by the same bug/regression in 
> 4.8.0 and 4.8.1

Never used them normally, what was/is the problem?

-- 
Lindsay



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Thu Apr  5 14:57:52 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:57:52 +0200
Subject: 4.8.2 Update
In-Reply-To: <1407268.dsIRY6mE0u@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <1920787.fKasT1naoA@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<4F7D33DF.5020706@gmail.com>
	<1407268.dsIRY6mE0u@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <4F7DB2F0.4000707@gmail.com>

On 05/04/12 14:05, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:55:43 AM O. Sinclair wrote:
>> if you use KMail or Kontact, can you check if autocompletion of email
>> addresses from an addressbook when composing an email works?
>
> Still broken. Only "Recent addresses" works.
>
>> And
>> Distribution Lists, as they are affected by the same bug/regression in
>> 4.8.0 and 4.8.1
>
> Never used them normally, what was/is the problem?
>
Thanks for testing, I will stay away then. Distribution Lists (groups, 
whatever they are called) simply do not work in 4.8.x and I do use them 
rather frequently.



From rev.olson at gmail.com  Thu Apr  5 16:13:36 2012
From: rev.olson at gmail.com (Pastor JW)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:13:36 -0700
Subject: RTL8188ce
In-Reply-To: <201204050810.19714.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
	<201204041514.14337.rev.olson@gmail.com>
	<201204050810.19714.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <201204050913.37335.rev.olson@gmail.com>

On Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:10:19 pm Nils Kassube wrote:
> Pastor JW wrote:
> > Nope, apparently no-one else has made it work either.   In that case
> > does anyone have a good recommendation for a USB wireless dongle?
> 
> The one I use is the TP-Link TL-WN821N which works since Natty (IIRC).
> And you can make it work with Lucid if you install the appropriate
> "linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-*" package for your
> kernel and the latest "linux-firmware" (Natty or later) from
> <http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/all/linux-firmware/download>.

Thank you.  I'll look into to one when I get back home.  

-- 
73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW <n><   PDGA# 35276
http://the-inner-circle.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle
http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Fri Apr  6 11:52:29 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:52:29 +1000
Subject: NetBeans LooknFeel
Message-ID: <2358209.iEtxSZWbZL@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

Any suggestions as to how to get netbeans to look half way decent in Kubuntu 
12.04? the best I have so far is:

netbeans --laf com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel -J-
Dswing.aatext=true -J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on

And it still looks terrible - I think anti aliasing is still turned off

-- 
Lindsay



From ralph.puncher at ripnet.com  Fri Apr  6 13:11:19 2012
From: ralph.puncher at ripnet.com (Ralph)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 09:11:19 -0400
Subject: RTL8188ce
In-Reply-To: <201204041514.14337.rev.olson@gmail.com>
References: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
	<8183407.tgNK0KCRAK@allmine>
	<201204041514.14337.rev.olson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1573476.6COFaENqlW@puncher-dt>

On April 4, 2012 03:14:13 PM Pastor JW wrote:
>  On Friday, March 30, 2012 12:33:51 PM Pastor JW wrote:
> > Has anyone here ever been able to get a driver working for the RTL8188ce
> > wireless controller?  I've tried everything I could find on it for the
> > past two days.  This is on a Kubuntu 10.04 install.  Thanks for any
> > help!
> 
> Nope, apparently no-one else has made it work either.   In that case does
> anyone have a good recommendation for a USB wireless dongle?

I use a TP-Link TL-WN727N whenever I need to get a new wired driver 
(RTL8111E/8168) to get my wired connection working again (on a new install). 
It works well and supports b/g/n too.




From rev.olson at gmail.com  Sat Apr  7 16:59:41 2012
From: rev.olson at gmail.com (Pastor JW)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 09:59:41 -0700
Subject: RTL8188ce
In-Reply-To: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
References: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204070959.42263.rev.olson@gmail.com>

On Friday, March 30, 2012 12:33:51 pm Pastor JW wrote:
> Has anyone here ever been able to get a driver working for the RTL8188ce
> wireless controller?  I've tried everything I could find on it for the past
> two days.  This is on a Kubuntu 10.04 install.  Thanks for any help!

OK, it took me more than a week but here is the answer.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lexical/hwe-wireless
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install rtl8192ce-dkms


-- 
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From loic.grobol at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 09:58:41 2012
From: loic.grobol at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Grobol?=)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:58:41 +0200
Subject: Upgrade to 12.04 beta and Python's UnicodeEncodeError
Message-ID: <CADtLoSf2k2SVAuqM1ou_k+xOM-M0Tbi-TH0TT2HFKh9SgSkJRg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, all
I faced something weird while trying to update to 12.04 beta

loic at loic-HP-ProBook-4330s:~$ kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 77, in <module>
    print _("Checking for a new ubuntu release")
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in
position 1: ordinal not in range(128)

So it seems to be a trivial python error in the update script, I would
fix it but I don't want to break anything. So, has any of you faced
something like this? Do you think I should go ahead and fix it?

Cheers,
Loïc
-- 
Loïc Grobol.

M1 Mathématiques AMA. Faculté des sciences, Orléans La Source.
M1 Linguistique LAASTIC. Faculté de lettres, langues et sciences
humaines, Orléans La Source.



From rajuramvani at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 11:56:43 2012
From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (Rajubhai Ramvani)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:43 +0530
Subject: how to improve home disk space
Message-ID: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>

dear sir,
      when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk space
full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so in future we
not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by home folder
empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.
rajuramvani.
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 12:07:29 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 07:07:29 -0500
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7086E402-0A83-483B-9AFE-352AC009E901@gmail.com>

Please stop spamming this list. It is spelled "message", not "massage". Those mean completely different things.

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 8, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Rajubhai Ramvani <rajuramvani at gmail.com> wrote:

> dear sir,
>       when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so in future we not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.
> rajuramvani. 
> -- 
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users



From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr  8 12:53:28 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:53:28 +0200
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204081453.28915.kassube@gmx.net>

Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
>       when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk
> space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so
> in future we not want this type massage. i know the we can do this
> by home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help
> me.

Usually it is not useful to empty the home folder - after all that is 
where you want to store your personal data which you want to preserve. 

Some solutions to get some free space can be found here:
<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoverLostDiskSpace>


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr  8 12:56:42 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:56:42 +0200
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <7086E402-0A83-483B-9AFE-352AC009E901@gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<7086E402-0A83-483B-9AFE-352AC009E901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204081456.42393.kassube@gmx.net>

Ryan Gauger wrote:
> Please stop spamming this list. It is spelled "message", not
> "massage". Those mean completely different things.

Just because the OP used the wrong word doesn't make the message spam.

> Sent from my iPod

OTOH, that line could be considered spam if we want to be pedantic.


Nils



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Apr  8 13:05:59 2012
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:05:59 -0400
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <7086E402-0A83-483B-9AFE-352AC009E901@gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<7086E402-0A83-483B-9AFE-352AC009E901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1750260.cLudSXXn9g@linux1>

On Sunday, April 08, 2012 07:07:29 AM Ryan Gauger wrote:
> Please stop spamming this list. It is spelled "message", not "massage".
> Those mean completely different things.

C'mon give the guy a break.  English is not always the first language of 
people on this list.

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From it at sca-uk.com  Sun Apr  8 13:14:16 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:14:16 -0300
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <201204081456.42393.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com><7086E402-0A83-483B-9AFE-352AC009E901@gmail.com>
	<201204081456.42393.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <F9B0E9E8C3C940F196E782A7BFAA43EE@SACWS001>

>Ryan Gauger wrote:
>> Please stop spamming this list. It is spelled "message", not
>> "massage". Those mean completely different things.
>
>Just because the OP used the wrong word doesn't make the message spam.
>
>> Sent from my iPod
>
>OTOH, that line could be considered spam if we want to be pedantic.
>

>Nils

I'm with Nils on this.

Being able to spell in English is not a pre-requisite for being eligible for
help.

Sorry Raju, you have been unfailingly polite in your posts.

Peace and Love

Steve. 




From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 13:31:23 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 09:31:23 -0400
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+N=Xif1X10yat8taQfgk29g63ZD3zi5-syK8ig9BpN6BaTLpA@mail.gmail.com>

Please tell us the size of your partitions, whether you have a separate
home partition, which version of Kubuntu you are using and whether you are
dual booting with any other operating system.

Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
On Apr 8, 2012 7:57 AM, "Rajubhai Ramvani" <rajuramvani at gmail.com> wrote:

> dear sir,
>       when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk space
> full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so in future we
> not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by home folder
> empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.
> rajuramvani.
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>
>
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From fatgerman at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 18:36:06 2012
From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 19:36:06 +0100
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <CA+N=Xif1X10yat8taQfgk29g63ZD3zi5-syK8ig9BpN6BaTLpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+N=Xif1X10yat8taQfgk29g63ZD3zi5-syK8ig9BpN6BaTLpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10983782-A8C0-4664-A8BD-A02E997AE6ED@gmail.com>


On 8 Apr 2012, at 14:31, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote:

> Please tell us the size of your partitions, whether you have a separate home partition, which version of Kubuntu you are using and whether you are dual booting with any other operating system.
> 
> Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
> 
> On Apr 8, 2012 7:57 AM, "Rajubhai Ramvani" <rajuramvani at gmail.com> wrote:
> dear sir,
>       when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so in future we not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.

Hi Rajuramvani,

Ignore the grumpy people.

I don't really understand the question you are asking because the answer is obvious. If you are running out of disc space then you need a bigger disc, or you need to delete something from your disc to free up some space. Or perhaps you could buy an external disc and move some of the contents of your home directory onto that disc.

Mark

Sent from my MacBook Pro.



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From it at sca-uk.com  Sun Apr  8 23:47:37 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 20:47:37 -0300
Subject: Remote desktop.
Message-ID: <871E2CC7575F4AACBF70454A44639FBC@SACWS001>

Hi Guys,

Is there a remote desktop facility that works under Kubuntu?

Regards

Steve

 
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From clay at claydoh.com  Mon Apr  9 00:04:21 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 20:04:21 -0400
Subject: Remote desktop.
In-Reply-To: <871E2CC7575F4AACBF70454A44639FBC@SACWS001>
References: <871E2CC7575F4AACBF70454A44639FBC@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <4033389.PS1dhWsJuH@lark-latitude-d630>

On Sunday, April 08, 2012 08:47:37 PM Steve Cookson wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> Is there a remote desktop facility that works under Kubuntu?
> Regards
> 
> Steve
>  

While the various tools like krdc, vnc, etc all do work in linux, the ease-of-
use/setup-and-configure factor is generally extremely lacking. So I usually 
suggest Teamviewer, a closed-source prgram that is works across platforms, and 
is fairly easy to run and set up. There is even an android viewer app.

--
Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net
http://ubuntumaine.org



From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl  Mon Apr  9 00:35:46 2012
From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:35:46 +0200
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
Message-ID: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>


Why can Kubuntu only see 800x600 while Windows saw higher resolutions?
It looks that you have to be a computer programmer to change the resolution.
Itś defently no great future from Linux that its so diffucult to change a resolution!
I think that i trow Kubutu away if its so difficult to change a simple resolution from a videocard.
If someone have tips that stood not on google that please tell me how i can better resolotions than the stupid 800x600.

Dennis
 		 	   		  
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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Apr  9 01:19:14 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:19:14 +1000
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3813165.C61pz9ROSI@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:35:46 AM Dennis Linux wrote:
> simple resolution from a videocard. If someone have tips that stood not on
> google that please tell me how i can better resolotions than the stupid
> 800x600.


What's brand and model is your video card. Or if its built into your mother 
board what brand/model is that :)

-- 
Lindsay



From it at sca-uk.com  Mon Apr  9 01:30:14 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 22:30:14 -0300
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1B0C8A1E62DB4F1AAB84EB37FACA7189@SACWS001>

Hi Dennis,
 
I have K10.04 seeing a 21" 1920x1080 screen and several other (lesser)
resolutions.  You shouldn't have to do anything, it should just detect it,
but there is screen resolution setting programme under system setup (I think
it's called that, I don't have my PC set to English at the moment).
 
If you don't have the right driver or patches, it may not work.
 
I had a new Gigabyte motherboard with K10.04 LTS and because the hardware
was newer than the operating system it didn't detect all the settings.
 
If that is your problem, then upgrade your Kubuntu to 11.04 or 11.10 and it
should detect everything.
 
Good luck.
 
Regards
 
Steve

  _____  

From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Linux
Sent: 08 April 2012 21:36
To: help
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu


Why can Kubuntu only see 800x600 while Windows saw higher resolutions?
It looks that you have to be a computer programmer to change the resolution.
Itś defently no great future from Linux that its so diffucult to change a
resolution!
I think that i trow Kubutu away if its so difficult to change a simple
resolution from a videocard.
If someone have tips that stood not on google that please tell me how i can
better resolotions than the stupid 800x600.

Dennis

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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Mon Apr  9 06:39:14 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:39:14 +0200
Subject: Remote desktop.
In-Reply-To: <4033389.PS1dhWsJuH@lark-latitude-d630>
References: <871E2CC7575F4AACBF70454A44639FBC@SACWS001>
	<4033389.PS1dhWsJuH@lark-latitude-d630>
Message-ID: <4F828412.9030507@gmail.com>

On 09/04/12 02:04, Clay Weber wrote:
> On Sunday, April 08, 2012 08:47:37 PM Steve Cookson wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>> Is there a remote desktop facility that works under Kubuntu?
>> Regards
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> While the various tools like krdc, vnc, etc all do work in linux, the ease-of-
> use/setup-and-configure factor is generally extremely lacking. So I usually
> suggest Teamviewer, a closed-source prgram that is works across platforms, and
> is fairly easy to run and set up. There is even an android viewer app.
>
> --
> Clay Weber
> http://kubuntuforums.net
> http://ubuntumaine.org
>
I agree - I use krdc for servers/computers on the same LAN but for 
anything "remote" Teamviewer is the easiest and best I have found. And 
it is free for personal use so you can help your family and friends 
without paying money for license.

Best,
Sinclair



From errol at tzora.co.il  Mon Apr  9 10:48:27 2012
From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:48:27 +0300
Subject: lost my grub on the way to 12.04
Message-ID: <4F82BE7B.5040306@tzora.co.il>

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From tentaro at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  9 12:18:17 2012
From: tentaro at hotmail.com (Terry Madore Jr)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:18:17 +0000
Subject: Isn't about time now for native support of more wireless cards?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.111.1333972829.14672.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.111.1333972829.14672.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <BAY171-W11791DEC990B648D43D8525B8370@phx.gbl>


Installed 64bit 12.04 and realized that there is still not any native support for my Netgear card. I have been waiting since 9. I love Kubuntu but this is one of those things that for me that makes or breaks it (the other being my TV tuner card) and I am tired of having to run 32bit Kubuntu on a 64bit machine because I have to use ndiswrapper and the 64bit driver that I have will not work. oh yeah the card is a WN-311T if anyone knows of a way to make it work besides ndiswrapper. Also if anyone has gotten the Avermedia TVHD DUET card to work I would be forever greatful as well. Thank you.
Terry

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>    1. Re: Remote desktop. (Clay Weber)
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>    4. RE: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu (Steve Cookson)
>    5. Re: Remote desktop. (O. Sinclair)
>    6. lost my grub on the way to 12.04 (Errol Sapir)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 20:04:21 -0400
> From: Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Remote desktop.
> Message-ID: <4033389.PS1dhWsJuH at lark-latitude-d630>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> On Sunday, April 08, 2012 08:47:37 PM Steve Cookson wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Guys,
> > Is there a remote desktop facility that works under Kubuntu?
> > Regards
> > 
> > Steve
> >  
> 
> While the various tools like krdc, vnc, etc all do work in linux, the ease-of-
> use/setup-and-configure factor is generally extremely lacking. So I usually 
> suggest Teamviewer, a closed-source prgram that is works across platforms, and 
> is fairly easy to run and set up. There is even an android viewer app.
> 
> --
> Clay Weber
> http://kubuntuforums.net
> http://ubuntumaine.org
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:35:46 +0200
> From: Dennis Linux <frankie-1 at hotmail.nl>
> To: help <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
> Message-ID: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"
> 
> 
> Why can Kubuntu only see 800x600 while Windows saw higher resolutions?
> It looks that you have to be a computer programmer to change the resolution.
> It? defently no great future from Linux that its so diffucult to change a resolution!
> I think that i trow Kubutu away if its so difficult to change a simple resolution from a videocard.
> If someone have tips that stood not on google that please tell me how i can better resolotions than the stupid 800x600.
> 
> Dennis
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:19:14 +1000
> From: Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
> Message-ID: <3813165.C61pz9ROSI at lindsay-kubuntu-12>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 02:35:46 AM Dennis Linux wrote:
> > simple resolution from a videocard. If someone have tips that stood not on
> > google that please tell me how i can better resolotions than the stupid
> > 800x600.
> 
> 
> What's brand and model is your video card. Or if its built into your mother 
> board what brand/model is that :)
> 
> -- 
> Lindsay
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 22:30:14 -0300
> From: "Steve Cookson" <it at sca-uk.com>
> To: "'Kubuntu user technical support'"
> 	<kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: RE: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
> Message-ID: <1B0C8A1E62DB4F1AAB84EB37FACA7189 at SACWS001>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"
> 
> Hi Dennis,
>  
> I have K10.04 seeing a 21" 1920x1080 screen and several other (lesser)
> resolutions.  You shouldn't have to do anything, it should just detect it,
> but there is screen resolution setting programme under system setup (I think
> it's called that, I don't have my PC set to English at the moment).
>  
> If you don't have the right driver or patches, it may not work.
>  
> I had a new Gigabyte motherboard with K10.04 LTS and because the hardware
> was newer than the operating system it didn't detect all the settings.
>  
> If that is your problem, then upgrade your Kubuntu to 11.04 or 11.10 and it
> should detect everything.
>  
> Good luck.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Steve
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Linux
> Sent: 08 April 2012 21:36
> To: help
> Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
> 
> 
> Why can Kubuntu only see 800x600 while Windows saw higher resolutions?
> It looks that you have to be a computer programmer to change the resolution.
> It? defently no great future from Linux that its so diffucult to change a
> resolution!
> I think that i trow Kubutu away if its so difficult to change a simple
> resolution from a videocard.
> If someone have tips that stood not on google that please tell me how i can
> better resolotions than the stupid 800x600.
> 
> Dennis
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:39:14 +0200
> From: "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com>
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Remote desktop.
> Message-ID: <4F828412.9030507 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> On 09/04/12 02:04, Clay Weber wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 08, 2012 08:47:37 PM Steve Cookson wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Guys,
> >> Is there a remote desktop facility that works under Kubuntu?
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >
> > While the various tools like krdc, vnc, etc all do work in linux, the ease-of-
> > use/setup-and-configure factor is generally extremely lacking. So I usually
> > suggest Teamviewer, a closed-source prgram that is works across platforms, and
> > is fairly easy to run and set up. There is even an android viewer app.
> >
> > --
> > Clay Weber
> > http://kubuntuforums.net
> > http://ubuntumaine.org
> >
> I agree - I use krdc for servers/computers on the same LAN but for 
> anything "remote" Teamviewer is the easiest and best I have found. And 
> it is free for personal use so you can help your family and friends 
> without paying money for license.
> 
> Best,
> Sinclair
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:48:27 +0300
> From: Errol Sapir <errol at tzora.co.il>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: lost my grub on the way to 12.04
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From it at sca-uk.com  Mon Apr  9 12:57:48 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:57:48 -0300
Subject: Remote desktop.
In-Reply-To: <4F828412.9030507@gmail.com>
References: <871E2CC7575F4AACBF70454A44639FBC@SACWS001><4033389.PS1dhWsJuH@lark-latitude-d630>
	<4F828412.9030507@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E9B2D8D999D41F580D10430D747A9AC@SACWS001>

> I agree - I use krdc for servers/computers on the same LAN but for 
> anything "remote" Teamviewer is the easiest and best I have found. 

Thanks for this advice, people.

Do I need to have Teamviewer, krdc,  vnc or whatever on each supported
computer?

Regards

Steve






From buzzmandt at gmail.com  Mon Apr  9 17:54:59 2012
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:54:59 -0400
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <1B0C8A1E62DB4F1AAB84EB37FACA7189@SACWS001>
References: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
	<1B0C8A1E62DB4F1AAB84EB37FACA7189@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <CAPQHEAzKANN8Yj8coMuQ1oN5XOHmEVN_re_zPtquQNKoPZQYNA@mail.gmail.com>

If its nvidia type this in konsole
kdesudo nvidia-settings

If not nvidia disregard
On Apr 8, 2012 9:31 PM, "Steve Cookson" <it at sca-uk.com> wrote:

> **
> Hi Dennis,
>
> I have K10.04 seeing a 21" 1920x1080 screen and several other (lesser)
> resolutions.  You shouldn't have to do anything, it should just detect it,
> but there is screen resolution setting programme under system setup (I
> think it's called that, I don't have my PC set to English at the moment).
>
> If you don't have the right driver or patches, it may not work.
>
> I had a new Gigabyte motherboard with K10.04 LTS and because the hardware
> was newer than the operating system it didn't detect all the settings.
>
> If that is your problem, then upgrade your Kubuntu to 11.04 or 11.10 and
> it should detect everything.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:
> kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Linux
> *Sent:* 08 April 2012 21:36
> *To:* help
> *Subject:* Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
>
>  Why can Kubuntu only see 800x600 while Windows saw higher resolutions?
> It looks that you have to be a computer programmer to change the
> resolution.
> Itś defently no great future from Linux that its so diffucult to change a
> resolution!
> I think that i trow Kubutu away if its so difficult to change a simple
> resolution from a videocard.
> If someone have tips that stood not on google that please tell me how i
> can better resolotions than the stupid 800x600.
>
> Dennis
>
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From arnaud.bourree at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 08:02:28 2012
From: arnaud.bourree at gmail.com (Arnaud bourree)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:02:28 +0200
Subject: Remote desktop.
In-Reply-To: <4E9B2D8D999D41F580D10430D747A9AC@SACWS001>
References: <871E2CC7575F4AACBF70454A44639FBC@SACWS001>
	<4033389.PS1dhWsJuH@lark-latitude-d630>
	<4F828412.9030507@gmail.com>
	<4E9B2D8D999D41F580D10430D747A9AC@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <CAESUf_DZTnTboimrh3d0stKyqzggR4OkFCgNhqoyF3f7HfQGPA@mail.gmail.com>

For each solution there are server and client part: server part for
one who share desktop and client for who connect to

Arnaud.


2012/4/9 Steve Cookson <it at sca-uk.com>:
>> I agree - I use krdc for servers/computers on the same LAN but for
>> anything "remote" Teamviewer is the easiest and best I have found.
>
> Thanks for this advice, people.
>
> Do I need to have Teamviewer, krdc,  vnc or whatever on each supported
> computer?
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users



From rterry at pacific.net.au  Tue Apr 10 11:15:56 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:15:56 +1000
Subject: Partitioning question
Message-ID: <201204102115.56318.rterry@pacific.net.au>

Hi List,

Not particularly Kubuntu, but would appreciate some partitioning advice.

I've an asus laptop with an SD 120GIG drive + 750G second drive. The laptop 
came with just Win7 on the SD drive. I installed Kubuntu 11 on the second 
drive.  Now, I never ever boot into Windows, though for some irrational reason 
(maybe because it is a licenced copy) I'm loathe to wipe it in case "I ever 
need it".

I wonder if it would be possible to wipe the Kubuntu partition and re-install 
a virgin Kubuntu 12, but partially on the 120Gig SD drive, to get the faster 
boot up speed, if so I'd have to manually tell the installer what partitions 
go where and what size and I'm not sure what to do during the install. I'm 
happy to shrink the 120G partition with a partion manager prior to the 
install.

Any basic pointers appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Richard



From rajuramvani at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 12:17:13 2012
From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (Rajubhai Ramvani)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:47:13 +0530
Subject: not start pc
Message-ID: <CAET=m5F7T7=4eiZ4cymp5_u3ix_g2YKuDitza+aM-OskNp2W7g@mail.gmail.com>

dear sir,
       some websites are not open like speedtest.net and massage was
displaying update java othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i
uninstalled java .now i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only going
booting process .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help me.i am
using kubuntu 11.10.
rajuramvani.
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From pkaplan1 at comcast.net  Tue Apr 10 12:55:34 2012
From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 12:55:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Partitioning question
In-Reply-To: <201204102115.56318.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I have for years kept Kubuntu and Windows on the same physical drive. 


Currently for a 64-bin install: 


/dev/sda1 (WinXP) 30GB (same is probably OK for Win7 if you have MS Office and 1-2 other similarly sized programs) 
/dev/sda2 (/home) 120GB (really whatever isn't used for the other 3 partitions) 
/dev/sda3 (swap) 6GB (probably should be 8GB for 4GB RAM) 
/dev/sda4 (/) 10GB (might bump to 12GB if you want to install Gnome as well as KDE, but I've never been higher than ~75% use with KDE only + lots of stuff) 


This allows you to do a new install on /dev/sda4 in the future without disrupting /home. 
Paul 

----- Original Message -----
From: rterry at pacific.net.au 
To: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:15:56 AM 
Subject: Partitioning question 

Hi List, 

Not particularly Kubuntu, but would appreciate some partitioning advice. 

I've an asus laptop with an SD 120GIG drive + 750G second drive. The laptop 
came with just Win7 on the SD drive. I installed Kubuntu 11 on the second 
drive. Now, I never ever boot into Windows, though for some irrational reason 
(maybe because it is a licenced copy) I'm loathe to wipe it in case "I ever 
need it". 

I wonder if it would be possible to wipe the Kubuntu partition and re-install 
a virgin Kubuntu 12, but partially on the 120Gig SD drive, to get the faster 
boot up speed, if so I'd have to manually tell the installer what partitions 
go where and what size and I'm not sure what to do during the install. I'm 
happy to shrink the 120G partition with a partion manager prior to the 
install. 

Any basic pointers appreciated. 

Thanks in advance. 

Richard 

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From gbonnema at xs4all.nl  Tue Apr 10 13:25:42 2012
From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 15:25:42 +0200
Subject: Partitioning question
In-Reply-To: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4F8434D6.2090708@xs4all.nl>

On 10/04/12 14:55, Paul Kaplan wrote:
> I have for years kept Kubuntu and Windows on the same physical drive.
>
> Currently for a 64-bin install:
>
> /dev/sda1 (WinXP) 30GB (same is probably OK for Win7 if you have MS 
> Office and 1-2 other similarly sized programs)
> /dev/sda2 (/home) 120GB (really whatever isn't used for the other 3 
> partitions)
> /dev/sda3 (swap) 6GB (probably should be 8GB for 4GB RAM)
> /dev/sda4 (/) 10GB (might bump to 12GB if you want to install Gnome as 
> well as KDE, but I've never been higher than ~75% use with KDE only + 
> lots of stuff)
>
> This allows you to do a new install on /dev/sda4 in the future without 
> disrupting /home.
> Paul
>
The thing to remember is to always keep the directories where you 
install separate from your data, so you can install without fear for data.
Do remember to backup stuff, at least backup your configuration files in 
/etc or elsewhere, scripts (cron!), logfiles, etc.
If you are going to change the partition layout, make sure you know or 
have printed the current layout, so you dont overwrite essential files.

Another thing is to remember that in your home directory KDE uses a 
hidden directory to store contact data etc. I once lost my contact file, 
because I thought all those hidden directories were only configuration!

P.S. please dont top post.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *rterry at pacific.net.au
> *To: *"Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:15:56 AM
> *Subject: *Partitioning question
>
> Hi List,
>
> Not particularly Kubuntu, but would appreciate some partitioning advice.
>
> I've an asus laptop with an SD 120GIG drive + 750G second drive. The 
> laptop
> came with just Win7 on the SD drive. I installed Kubuntu 11 on the second
> drive.  Now, I never ever boot into Windows, though for some 
> irrational reason
> (maybe because it is a licenced copy) I'm loathe to wipe it in case "I 
> ever
> need it".
Cannot help you there, that is your decision. Personally, I use Windows 
only for games (think Wow, battlefield).
>
> I wonder if it would be possible to wipe the Kubuntu partition and 
> re-install
> a virgin Kubuntu 12, but partially on the 120Gig SD drive, to get the 
> faster
> boot up speed, if so I'd have to manually tell the installer what 
> partitions
> go where and what size and I'm not sure what to do during the install. 
> I'm
> happy to shrink the 120G partition with a partion manager prior to the
> install.
>
If you have a 120G disk, you could probably install all of / on that 
disk. However, if you install /boot as a separate partition on your SD 
drive, that should suffice for fast boot.

Be sure to have both / and /boot separate from your data.

If you already have linux installed, use Partition Manager or KDE 
partition manager to change, add or delete partitions. I have done it a 
lot, but I used gparted because I was using gnome at the time. It's not 
particularly difficult, just make sure you have a restorable backup 
before you start. Usually, having a backup makes sure nothing goes 
wrong. Not having one is just asking for irreversible trouble.....

> Any basic pointers appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Richard
>
> -- 
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>

Kind regards, Guus Bonnema.
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From rterry at pacific.net.au  Tue Apr 10 21:57:30 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:57:30 +1000
Subject: Partitioning question
In-Reply-To: <4F8434D6.2090708@xs4all.nl>
References: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<4F8434D6.2090708@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <201204110757.30946.rterry@pacific.net.au>

On Tuesday 10 April 2012 23:25:42 Guus wrote:
> On 10/04/12 14:55, Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > I have for years kept Kubuntu and Windows on the same physical drive.
> >
> > Currently for a 64-bin install:
> >
> > /dev/sda1 (WinXP) 30GB (same is probably OK for Win7 if you have MS
> > Office and 1-2 other similarly sized programs)
> > /dev/sda2 (/home) 120GB (really whatever isn't used for the other 3
> > partitions)
> > /dev/sda3 (swap) 6GB (probably should be 8GB for 4GB RAM)
> > /dev/sda4 (/) 10GB (might bump to 12GB if you want to install Gnome as
> > well as KDE, but I've never been higher than ~75% use with KDE only +
> > lots of stuff)
> >
> > This allows you to do a new install on /dev/sda4 in the future without
> > disrupting /home.
> > Paul
> 
> The thing to remember is to always keep the directories where you
> install separate from your data, so you can install without fear for data.
> Do remember to backup stuff, at least backup your configuration files in
> /etc or elsewhere, scripts (cron!), logfiles, etc.
> If you are going to change the partition layout, make sure you know or
> have printed the current layout, so you dont overwrite essential files.
> 
> Another thing is to remember that in your home directory KDE uses a
> hidden directory to store contact data etc. I once lost my contact file,
> because I thought all those hidden directories were only configuration!
> 
> P.S. please dont top post.
> 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From: *rterry at pacific.net.au
> > *To: *"Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:15:56 AM
> > *Subject: *Partitioning question
> >
> > Hi List,
> >
> > Not particularly Kubuntu, but would appreciate some partitioning advice.
> >
> > I've an asus laptop with an SD 120GIG drive + 750G second drive. The
> > laptop
> > came with just Win7 on the SD drive. I installed Kubuntu 11 on the second
> > drive.  Now, I never ever boot into Windows, though for some
> > irrational reason
> > (maybe because it is a licenced copy) I'm loathe to wipe it in case "I
> > ever
> > need it".
> 
> Cannot help you there, that is your decision. Personally, I use Windows
> only for games (think Wow, battlefield).
> 
> > I wonder if it would be possible to wipe the Kubuntu partition and
> > re-install
> > a virgin Kubuntu 12, but partially on the 120Gig SD drive, to get the
> > faster
> > boot up speed, if so I'd have to manually tell the installer what
> > partitions
> > go where and what size and I'm not sure what to do during the install.
> > I'm
> > happy to shrink the 120G partition with a partion manager prior to the
> > install.
> 
> If you have a 120G disk, you could probably install all of / on that
> disk. However, if you install /boot as a separate partition on your SD
> drive, that should suffice for fast boot.
> 
> Be sure to have both / and /boot separate from your data.

Thanks, will try this /boot and / on the SDRAM drive, think I'll have room, 
and have used gParted before.

Regards

Richard

> 
> If you already have linux installed, use Partition Manager or KDE
> partition manager to change, add or delete partitions. I have done it a
> lot, but I used gparted because I was using gnome at the time. It's not
> particularly difficult, just make sure you have a restorable backup
> before you start. Usually, having a backup makes sure nothing goes
> wrong. Not having one is just asking for irreversible trouble.....
> 
> > Any basic pointers appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Richard
> 
> Kind regards, Guus Bonnema.
> 



From rterry at pacific.net.au  Tue Apr 10 21:59:20 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:59:20 +1000
Subject: Partitioning question
In-Reply-To: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <201204110759.20500.rterry@pacific.net.au>

On Tuesday 10 April 2012 22:55:34 Paul Kaplan wrote:
> I have for years kept Kubuntu and Windows on the same physical drive.
> 
> 
> Currently for a 64-bin install:
> 
> 
> /dev/sda1 (WinXP) 30GB (same is probably OK for Win7 if you have MS Office
>  and 1-2 other similarly sized programs) /dev/sda2 (/home) 120GB (really
>  whatever isn't used for the other 3 partitions) /dev/sda3 (swap) 6GB
>  (probably should be 8GB for 4GB RAM)
> /dev/sda4 (/) 10GB (might bump to 12GB if you want to install Gnome as well
>  as KDE, but I've never been higher than ~75% use with KDE only + lots of
>  stuff)

Thanks for your reply - will work along these lines.
> 
> This allows you to do a new install on /dev/sda4 in the future without
>  disrupting /home. Paul
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rterry at pacific.net.au
> To: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:15:56 AM
> Subject: Partitioning question
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> Not particularly Kubuntu, but would appreciate some partitioning advice.
> 
> I've an asus laptop with an SD 120GIG drive + 750G second drive. The laptop
> came with just Win7 on the SD drive. I installed Kubuntu 11 on the second
> drive. Now, I never ever boot into Windows, though for some irrational
>  reason (maybe because it is a licenced copy) I'm loathe to wipe it in case
>  "I ever need it".
> 
> I wonder if it would be possible to wipe the Kubuntu partition and
>  re-install a virgin Kubuntu 12, but partially on the 120Gig SD drive, to
>  get the faster boot up speed, if so I'd have to manually tell the
>  installer what partitions go where and what size and I'm not sure what to
>  do during the install. I'm happy to shrink the 120G partition with a
>  partion manager prior to the install.
> 
> Any basic pointers appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Richard
> 



From john at nosuitsit.com  Tue Apr 10 23:08:51 2012
From: john at nosuitsit.com (John)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:08:51 +0100
Subject: Another partitioning question
Message-ID: <21547372.tO1OOYn8PJ@black>

Hi All,

I know that I cannot have more than fifteen partitions on any one device, but 
does anyone else have a problem with trying to use the installer and over ten 
partitions?

With two hard drives, the eleventh partition to format (so ten plus a couple 
of swaps is OK) kills the installation no matter which order or combination I 
start with.

/dev/sda1       /       ext3
/dev/sda2       none    swap
/dev/sda3       /home   ext3
/dev/sda5       /var    ext3
/dev/sda6       /tmp    ext3
/dev/sda7       /ain    ext3
/dev/sda8       /everest        ext3
/dev/sda9       /k2     ext3
/dev/sda10      /kang   ext3
/dev/sdb1       /lhotse ext3
/dev/sdb2       none    swap
/dev/sdb3       /makalu ext3

As soon as I try to add in /dev/sdb5 /chooyu as ext3 if crashes the install.

Regards
John



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Wed Apr 11 00:32:24 2012
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:32:24 -0400
Subject: Another partitioning question
In-Reply-To: <21547372.tO1OOYn8PJ@black>
References: <21547372.tO1OOYn8PJ@black>
Message-ID: <10265077.VSy9Dur25m@linux1>

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:08:51 AM John wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I know that I cannot have more than fifteen partitions on any one device,
> but  does anyone else have a problem with trying to use the installer and
> over ten partitions?
> 
> With two hard drives, the eleventh partition to format (so ten plus a
> couple  of swaps is OK) kills the installation no matter which order or
> combination I start with.

Welcome to the club.   Ubiquity has always crashed for me for the last 4 or 5 
releases.   And it is totally messed up in  b12.04 beta 2.   I tried to 
install today using only 3 partitions....   /,  /boot,  and /home  because it 
would crash if I tried more.

But once I got into the install,  the installer was looping in ubiquity at 
100% CPU and the install went no where.

The work around to your problem is to NOT list all of your partitions in the 
install, but to add them in later.

And lots of luck getting things installed.  I've given up on 12.04 until the 
RC comes out.



From rajuramvani at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 02:13:01 2012
From: rajuramvani at gmail.com (Rajubhai Ramvani)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:43:01 +0530
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <CAET=m5Gh0tY7DRcHVXJQga_PvAb1-DGvsYn1+SUUTOQzV6wJzg@mail.gmail.com>

dear sir,
       some websites are not open like speedtest.net and massage was
displaying update java othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i
uninstalled java .now i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only going
booting process .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help me.i am
using kubuntu 11.10.
rajuramvani.
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 02:24:38 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:24:38 -0500
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Once again, if you are going to spam this list, please leave and do it elsewhere. I am not stupid, and I do not think that any other people on this list are. Your messages always look like spam. If they are not, please look into an English grammar book. The term "massage" does not mean what you think it does. Look it up in the dictionary. What you mean is "message". The use of the term "sir" here is also not correct grammar when you are speaking to a huge list of people. We do not want your spam on this list. If these messages are spam, it is likely that sometime in the future you will be banned from the list. Please stop.

---Ryan

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Rajubhai Ramvani <rajuramvani at gmail.com> wrote:

> dear sir,
>        some websites are not open like speedtest.net and massage was displaying update java othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i uninstalled java .now i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only going booting process .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help me.i am using kubuntu 11.10.
> rajuramvani.
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From clay at claydoh.com  Wed Apr 11 02:44:15 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:44:15 -0400
Subject: No subject
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	<7FD4EF32-B4C4-4AE4-AC1D-7034451E4997@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a49b8bfe-5461-4e43-bd2b-c75670ad8ee7@email.android.com>

Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:

>Once again, if you are going to spam this list, please leave and do it
>elsewhere. I am not stupid, and I do not think that any other people on
>this list are. Your messages always look like spam. If they are not,
>please look into an English grammar book. The term "massage" does not
>mean what you think it does. Look it up in the dictionary. What you
>mean is "message". The use of the term "sir" here is also not correct
>grammar when you are speaking to a huge list of people. We do not want
>your spam on this list. If these messages are spam, it is likely that
>sometime in the future you will be banned from the list. Please stop.
>
>---Ryan
>
>Sent from my iPod
>
>On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Rajubhai Ramvani <rajuramvani at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> dear sir,
>>        some websites are not open like speedtest.net and massage was
>displaying update java othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i
>uninstalled java .now i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only
>going booting process .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help
>me.i am using kubuntu 11.10.
>> rajuramvani.
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Ryan, there is no need to call the gentleman a spammer. His English may not be perfect, but his problems are explained well enough so that we can ask for more info to clarify and expand. 

I think you are perhaps being too harsh. I do not see how his posts here are spam. 

I would like to request that you try to remain civil on this list.

Thank you.
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 03:34:53 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:34:53 -0500
Subject: No subject
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Sorry! I thought this was spam because it showed up in both my spam
Folder and my inbox. Obviously, my email account does not understand the difference between spam and real mail! Have a great rest of the day.

---Ryan

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com> wrote:

> Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:
> Once again, if you are going to spam this list, please leave and do it elsewhere. I am not stupid, and I do not think that any other people on this list are. Your messages always look like spam. If they are not, please look into an English grammar book. The term "massage" does not mean what you think it does. Look it up in the dictionary. What you mean is "message". The use of the term "sir" here is also not correct grammar when you are speaking to a huge list of people. We do not want your spam on this list. If these messages are spam, it is likely that sometime in the future you will be banned from the list. Please stop.
> 
> ---Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Rajubhai Ramvani <rajuramvani at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> dear sir,
>>        some websites are not open like speedtest.net and massage was displaying update java othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i uninstalled java .now i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only going booting process .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help me.i am using kubuntu 11.10.
>> rajuramvani.
>> -- 
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>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> 
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> 
> Ryan, there is no need to call the gentleman a spammer. His English may not be perfect, but his problems are explained well enough so that we can ask for more info to clarify and expand. 
> 
> I think you are perhaps being too harsh. I do not see how his posts here are spam. 
> 
> I would like to request that you try to remain civil on this list.
> 
> Thank you.
> -- 
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> List moderator
> 
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From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com  Wed Apr 11 05:20:11 2012
From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:20:11 -0400
Subject: Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <CAET=m5Gh0tY7DRcHVXJQga_PvAb1-DGvsYn1+SUUTOQzV6wJzg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5Gh0tY7DRcHVXJQga_PvAb1-DGvsYn1+SUUTOQzV6wJzg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F85148B.9090408@cfl.rr.com>


On 4/10/2012 10:13 PM, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
> dear sir,
>        some websites are not open like speedtest.net
> <http://speedtest.net/> and massage was displaying update java
> othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i uninstalled java .now
> i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only going booting process
> .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help me.i am using kubuntu
> 11.10.
> rajuramvani.
>
>

If you could try copying the message that appears when the failure occurs,
or, if there is no message, then describe what happens up until you get the
last screen.
Is this a dual boot machine?
Are you using a boot manager?

I have added subject line that describes as much of the problem
as I can garner from you message.  Mostly to prevent this and future
messages from ending up in the spam directory.
Please make all requests/responses to the list.

Thank you!

Tom
(This message is BCC'd to OP.)



From isak.enstrom at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 07:04:09 2012
From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isak_Enstr=C3=B6m?=)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:04:09 +0200
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <CAET=m5Gh0tY7DRcHVXJQga_PvAb1-DGvsYn1+SUUTOQzV6wJzg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5Gh0tY7DRcHVXJQga_PvAb1-DGvsYn1+SUUTOQzV6wJzg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc4Yw9mj=6zs0ihApHiwXawoM6QDuC7kXoWR8xTgC4DK4-X=g@mail.gmail.com>

Den 11 april 2012 04:13 skrev Rajubhai Ramvani <rajuramvani at gmail.com>:

> dear sir,
>        some websites are not open like speedtest.net and massage was
> displaying update java othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i
> uninstalled java .now i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only going
> booting process .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help me.i am
> using kubuntu 11.10.
> rajuramvani.
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>
>
To get Java installed I used the guide from this link:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/java

But your problem with the PC not booting can't be related to java. If it's
a newly installed system and you haven't done many modifications then the
easiest route would be to reinstall.


OT:
Ryan, there are many people in this world that doesn't have English as
their first language, and incidentally it isn't my first language either.
Calling someone a spammer just because of their spelling or use of words
is, as Clay put it, harsh. Languages are used differently and something
that is considered polite in one language could be considered overly formal
in another. A deeper understanding of any language can only be achieved by
practising (reading/writing/talking/thinking)

~~
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 09:53:41 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
Message-ID: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>

It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10 
there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on 
Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:

http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565

In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing name of 
the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.

I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and has 
a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in themselves 
mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a 
name that actually sort of means something.

I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I 
think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?

Best regards,
Sinclair



From loic.grobol at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 10:04:04 2012
From: loic.grobol at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Grobol?=)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:04:04 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADtLoSeoeW3HOvWk3KyurthxEj4=fGtkjKKv4Lp9SEpKY91chA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11 April 2012 11:53, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10 there
> will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on Planet
> KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
>
> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
>
> In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing name of the
> distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
>
It will still be tied to Ubuntu. I don't have any actual figures, but
I came to Kubuntu from Ubuntu because GNOME was bugging me, and I
expect the same from other users. Ubuntu is the leader for desktop
distros and is a starting point for many new Linuxeiros. It would be
foolish to dismiss this way of getting new users.?
> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and has a
> meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in themselves mean
> anything.
They do mean Ubuntu with KDE, Ubuntu with xfce…
> Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a name that
> actually sort of means something.
>
Assuming that Kubuntu has no meaning, what does that change?
> I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I
> think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
>
Well, I think you know what I think at least ;)

Cheers,
Loïc.


-- 
Loïc Grobol.

M1 Mathématiques AMA. Faculté des sciences, Orléans La Source.
M1 Linguistique LAASTIC. Faculté de lettres, langues et sciences
humaines, Orléans La Source.



From kassube at gmx.net  Wed Apr 11 10:04:29 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:04:29 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>

O. Sinclair wrote:
> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
> has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in
> themselves mean anything.

From <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>:

| "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
| ubuntu ("humanity").


Nils



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 10:18:38 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:18:38 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>

On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
> O. Sinclair wrote:
>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
>> has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in
>> themselves mean anything.
>
>>From<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>:
>
> | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
> | ubuntu ("humanity").
>
Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan from 
his blog that got me started on this:

"We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for distros 
and we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often incorrectly 
called a "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the Ubuntu family and 
we are one of their flavours which is just where we should be.

New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV 
friendly media centre support too for example.

But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was 
actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the 
KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like 
Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"






From it at sca-uk.com  Wed Apr 11 10:53:51 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:53:51 -0300
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <827277B436774E6C83D1E48E290B957F@SACWS001>

> But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was 
> actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the 
> KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like 
> Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"

I took a strategic decision that W2k would be my last Windows distro, in
fact I upgraded to XP.

And then I took on a new project and had to choose a system, I chose Kubuntu
for two reasons:

- It had a more modern-looking desktop
- It met my technical requirements better than the other distros.

I quite liked that it was part of the "Ubuntu" co-brand.  Think Georgio
Armani, Armani Jeans, Armani Exchange. It gave Kubuntu a larger foot-print
because of the other members of the family.  For that reason I feel the
Kubuntu punches above its weight.

Had I understood about the connection with Debian at the time, this would
have given me the same feeling, but this is not intuitive from the name.

Maybe it could have been "Debuntuk", to connect to Debian, Ubuntu and KDE in
one word.

But it's all a bit clunky.  What we in the Linux community don't have it the
'Windows' cover name to give every distro the associated values of the
family.

Maybe it needs a 'nix in the name.

Debuntuknix anyone?

Have a good day.

Steve




From anj.tuesday at gmx.net  Wed Apr 11 11:00:50 2012
From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:00:50 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <827277B436774E6C83D1E48E290B957F@SACWS001>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
	<827277B436774E6C83D1E48E290B957F@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <6986216.csXIsyXdbP@earthworm>

Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 07:53:51 schrieb Steve Cookson:
> > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> > actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the
> > KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> > Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
> 
> I took a strategic decision that W2k would be my last Windows distro, in
> fact I upgraded to XP.
> 
> And then I took on a new project and had to choose a system, I chose Kubuntu
> for two reasons:
> 
> - It had a more modern-looking desktop
> - It met my technical requirements better than the other distros.
> 
> I quite liked that it was part of the "Ubuntu" co-brand.  Think Georgio
> Armani, Armani Jeans, Armani Exchange. It gave Kubuntu a larger foot-print
> because of the other members of the family.  For that reason I feel the
> Kubuntu punches above its weight.
> 
> Had I understood about the connection with Debian at the time, this would
> have given me the same feeling, but this is not intuitive from the name.
> 
> Maybe it could have been "Debuntuk", to connect to Debian, Ubuntu and KDE in
> one word.
> 
> But it's all a bit clunky.  What we in the Linux community don't have it the
> 'Windows' cover name to give every distro the associated values of the
> family.
> 
> Maybe it needs a 'nix in the name.
> 
> Debuntuknix anyone?
> 
> Have a good day.
> 
> Steve

K-Tux would be a little gangster, yes? :)
~Anja
-- 
(°v°)



From buzzmandt at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 11:16:00 2012
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:16:00 -0400
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQHEAycG93v=O_FeG1Pn5epgoEEN_LVb2mCPFcF7ZapcUPRpQ@mail.gmail.com>

I think if it were a brand new project it should have a new name. But the
way I understand it it is still ubuntu+kde.  Joke name or not Kubuntu is
now an established name in the *nix community.  My vote would be stick with
the name everyone knows.
On Apr 11, 2012 6:19 AM, "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
>
>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>
>>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
>>> has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in
>>> themselves mean anything.
>>>
>>
>>  From<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Kubuntu#Name<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>
>>> >:
>>>
>>
>> | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
>> | ubuntu ("humanity").
>>
>>  Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan from
> his blog that got me started on this:
>
> "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for distros and
> we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often incorrectly called a
> "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the Ubuntu family and we are one
> of their flavours which is just where we should be.
>
> New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV friendly
> media centre support too for example.
>
> But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the KDE
> side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
>
>
>
>
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From kassube at gmx.net  Wed Apr 11 11:17:39 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:17:39 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204111317.40016.kassube@gmx.net>

O. Sinclair wrote:
> On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > O. Sinclair wrote:
> >> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language
> >> and has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not
> >> in themselves mean anything.
> >>
> >>From<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>:
> > | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
> > | ubuntu ("humanity").
> 
> Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan
> from his blog that got me started on this:
> 
> "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for
> distros and we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often
> incorrectly called a "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the
> Ubuntu family and we are one of their flavours which is just where
> we should be.
> 
> New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV
> friendly media centre support too for example.
> 
> But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it
> was actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers
> for the KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease
> of life like Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"

I'm not so sure if the name is a problem. I think it is more a question 
of marketing. To paraphrase my first boss (actually he was qouting 
someone else): "You may want to give away a lump of gold but you will 
only find a taker if you advertise." Take Firefox as an example. They 
got their share of the browser market by an advert campaign and not 
because of a great name. Or take MS Word as a second example. It is a 
common name for a mediocre product but MS dominates the market due to 
agressive marketing.


Nils



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 12:50:55 2012
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:50:55 +0300
Subject: KMAIL Folders error
Message-ID: <CAGPjBzb6J8_VwOsPJnG8swYtSYSHiPEaYXwTrF=mgN=7HEXOxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have 3 POP3 accounts and 1 IMAP account using Kontact that worked fine
till this morning. After certain upgrades of akonadi I have the following
message after opening Kontact:

1) For each of the POP accounts: 'Unable to store downloaded mail. Unknown
error (Append failed)'
2) After awhile I have this: 'Kmail Folders: Unknown error (NO
PartHelperException: Failed to update database record)

The result is a totally malfunctioning Kmail with mail message listed (no
new downloaded though); when I click on a message it cannot be retrieved.
Thanks,
gk
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 13:27:48 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:27:48 +0200
Subject: Webdesign in Kubuntu: what best to use instead of "Quanta Plus"?
Message-ID: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello everybody
When switching from Kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10, I remarked that "Quanta Plus" is 
not any more in the repository.  When checking this forum and elsewhere, I 
found out that there "Quanta Plus" seems to be too obsolete.

However it may be, at this moment, I am using at least 7 packages for 
webdesign:
Kompozer - for "WYSIG" web authoring,HTML, CSS and PHP;
Kate for code writing, copying unformatted texts, etc.;
Gwenview for quick and efficient standard operations with image files, like 
cutting, resizing, etc.;
KSnapshot for copying images into single image files;
Gimp for more complicated projects with image files;
Firefox and other browsers to test the outcome of any web design effort;
"FireFTP" for file transfer to upload new pages to the web.

My question is: is there any other package you would recommand me using for 
web design purposes in Kubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?
Respectfullly yours,
Bas Roufs. 

-- 
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
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From linux at appjaws.plus.com  Wed Apr 11 14:11:29 2012
From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:11:29 +0100
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
Message-ID: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2>

Hi,
How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched on a 
smartphone?

thanks
Paul



From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 14:13:34 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:13:34 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <CAPQHEAycG93v=O_FeG1Pn5epgoEEN_LVb2mCPFcF7ZapcUPRpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
	<CAPQHEAycG93v=O_FeG1Pn5epgoEEN_LVb2mCPFcF7ZapcUPRpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2731458.l0sSRKybiD@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello Everybody

> I think if it were a brand new project it should have a new name. But the
> way I understand it it is still ubuntu+kde.  Joke name or not Kubuntu is
> now an established name in the *nix community.  My vote would be stick with
> the name everyone knows.

Also I really prefer to stick to the name "Kubuntu". A new name would need a 
lot of extra marketing effort. 
>From retrospective point of view, the partly withdrawel of Canonical as 
sponsor of Kubuntu might be a blessing in disguise. Now, there are in fact 
several sponsors:
"Blue Systems";
the Ubuntu and Kubuntu communities;
still Canonical;
......

This creates a much more healthy, independent situation. 
We could consider bringing together Kubuntu related projects in a kind of 
cooperative enterprise: with a view to spreading our resources a bit more.
Respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs.
-- 
Bas G. Roufs MA
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
Tel. +31 30 785 40
Websites in construction:
BasRoufs.eu 
Viaconsensus.nl 
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From swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 14:20:47 2012
From: swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com (Swapnil Bhartiya)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:20:47 +0200
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2>
Message-ID: <4F85933F.8040001@gmail.com>

On 04/11/2012 04:11 PM, Paul Stear wrote:
> Hi,
> How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched on a
> smartphone?

Use DVD rip program (search USC) and rip the content and then use Arista 
to transcode for your smartphone.

Arnie



From theuteck at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 14:35:10 2012
From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:35:10 -0500
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <4F85933F.8040001@gmail.com>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2>
	<4F85933F.8040001@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHBX56=urWHpvzq_gfWhzxFxRz-FFQMWU_=9bacYxj7b7hEDfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Handbreak will do the ripping and encoding and has presets for
portable devices.  It is only a few clicks to get working.

/legal disclaimer
The program is not legal in some countries that do not allow you to
rip a DVD.  Use at your own risk.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya
<swapnil.bhartiya at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/11/2012 04:11 PM, Paul Stear wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched on a
>> smartphone?
>
>
> Use DVD rip program (search USC) and rip the content and then use Arista to
> transcode for your smartphone.
>
> Arnie
>
>
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 14:44:07 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:44:07 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <201204111317.40016.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com> <201204111317.40016.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4F8598B7.2060204@gmail.com>

On 04/11/2012 06:17 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
> O. Sinclair wrote:
>> On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language
>>>> and has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not
>>>> in themselves mean anything.
>>>>
>>>> From<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>:
>>> | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
>>> | ubuntu ("humanity").
>> Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan
>> from his blog that got me started on this:
>>
>> "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for
>> distros and we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often
>> incorrectly called a "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the
>> Ubuntu family and we are one of their flavours which is just where
>> we should be.
>>
>> New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV
>> friendly media centre support too for example.
>>
>> But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it
>> was actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers
>> for the KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease
>> of life like Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
> I'm not so sure if the name is a problem. I think it is more a question
> of marketing. To paraphrase my first boss (actually he was qouting
> someone else): "You may want to give away a lump of gold but you will
> only find a taker if you advertise." Take Firefox as an example. They
> got their share of the browser market by an advert campaign and not
> because of a great name. Or take MS Word as a second example. It is a
> common name for a mediocre product but MS dominates the market due to
> agressive marketing.
>
>
> Nils
Even though Kubuntu will (starting with 12.10) be sponsored by Blue 
Systems, I think the name should stay the same. I (like a lot of other 
people on this list) think that the name "Kubuntu" is not the best name, 
but I do not know how the public would react to a change in names. It 
will still be based off of Ubuntu, and will still continue to use KDE by 
default, so I think the name should stay the same. But marketing could 
change. The public DOES need to know that Kubuntu has changed sponsors. 
The website design could change, and I think a new logo for Kubuntu is 
needed. They have always been basing the Kubuntu logo off of Ubuntu's. 
Maybe no change, but text below the logo "Sponsored by Blue Systems". 
Just a thought...

Nils: Microsoft did not get their share from aggressive marketing. That 
may be a reason, but not /the/ reason. The reason was because Microsoft 
enabled companies to view their source, not steal it, but view it, so 
that users/companies could create programs and utilities for Windows 
that would be able to modify the registry components, Windows 
components, etc.. Apple did not allow companies to view any of their 
source or information, which allowed companies and users limited space 
on where their programs could go. Companies did not want to mess with 
trying to figure out how to get their Windows programs to work on Mac 
OS, so most programs (like they are today) were built for Windows, not 
Mac OS, which explains why Windows has the majority of the market share 
today: because they were open AND because people knew about it. So in 
response to what you said, I do think that aggressive marketing is 
needed, but when doing this, emphasise on the things already being 
advertised on the web (Ubuntu ads on Google Ads), but also focus on how 
Ubuntu is completely open-source. So you are definitely right, people do 
not know about Ubuntu. I think Canonical should start not only 
advertising on the web, but also on TV's. People who spend most of their 
time watching TV and not computers are less-likely to see the web ads, 
and you are also just about certainly going to catch a broader audience. 
I think if the ads interest people, they will most-likely want to try 
out this free operating system, Ubuntu. And then, maybe they will want 
to try out more flavours of Ubuntu, like Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, 
etc.. Thanks!

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From gheskett at wdtv.com  Wed Apr 11 15:17:14 2012
From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:17:14 -0400
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <CAPQHEAycG93v=O_FeG1Pn5epgoEEN_LVb2mCPFcF7ZapcUPRpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
	<CAPQHEAycG93v=O_FeG1Pn5epgoEEN_LVb2mCPFcF7ZapcUPRpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204111117.14534.gheskett@wdtv.com>

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:16:21 AM Dale Trombley did opine:

> I think if it were a brand new project it should have a new name. But
> the way I understand it it is still ubuntu+kde.  Joke name or not
> Kubuntu is now an established name in the *nix community.  My vote
> would be stick with the name everyone knows.
> 
+1 (or more)

Cheers, Gene
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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 15:19:09 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:19:09 -0600
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
Message-ID: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com>

I've googled, and not found anything that works, so it's time to ask here:

How do I get the old detailed fsck progress messages that one normally sees
on most Linux distros, and we used to see on *buntu?

All I see here is a graphical screen that gives me the option to hit "C" to
cancel the fsck, but with no indication whatsoever of the fsck progress.
Hitting ESC sends me to a text-based screen that merely tells me that an
fsck is in progress, without giving any details.

(At least the text-based screen tells me *which* drive is being checked,
which is more than can be said for the graphical screen, which seems to be
utterly useless as far as I can see. The graphical screen doesn't even
suggest hitting ESC as a possibility. Sorry, I'm on the verge of a rant.
Back to topic: how do I get the old detailed messages?)

  Doc

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From myriam at kubuntu.org  Wed Apr 11 15:27:48 2012
From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:27:48 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
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Hi all,

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 13:16, Dale Trombley <buzzmandt at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think if it were a brand new project it should have a new name. But the
> way I understand it it is still ubuntu+kde.  Joke name or not Kubuntu is now
> an established name in the *nix community.  My vote would be stick with the
> name everyone knows.

I fear it is not as easy as that: Kubuntu is a registered trademark of
Canonical Ltd. as the footer of the website tells. So we might not
have much of a choice there...

IANAL, so somebody with more insight should tell us more about that.
Jonathan maybe?

Regards, Myriam

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From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Wed Apr 11 15:43:50 2012
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:43:50 -0400
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
In-Reply-To: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com>
References: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1830351.Q7qnOWDG61@linux1>

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 09:19:09 AM D. R. Evans wrote:
> How do I get the old detailed fsck progress messages that one normally sees
> on most Linux distros, and we used to see on *buntu?


I believe you can hit escape while the splash screen is up and it will start 
showing the boot process.

What I do is:

1) Go edit  /etc/default/grub   and change the line:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""


from what it was  (quiet splash)  I think


and then   

update_grub


Next time you reboot, the splash screen is gone.





From thomas at tanghus.net  Wed Apr 11 16:11:02 2012
From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:11:02 +0200
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
In-Reply-To: <1830351.Q7qnOWDG61@linux1>
References: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com> <1830351.Q7qnOWDG61@linux1>
Message-ID: <9160093.cjMlqbhA25@tanghus>

On Wednesday 11 April 2012 11:43 Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 09:19:09 AM D. R. Evans wrote:
> > How do I get the old detailed fsck progress messages that one normally
> > sees
> > on most Linux distros, and we used to see on *buntu?
> 
> I believe you can hit escape while the splash screen is up and it will start
> showing the boot process.
> 
> What I do is:
> 
> 1) Go edit  /etc/default/grub   and change the line:
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
> 
> 
> from what it was  (quiet splash)  I think
> 
> 
> and then
> 
> update_grub

That would be update-grub :-) Thanks for the tip though. I had forgotten where 
to do this.

> 
> Next time you reboot, the splash screen is gone.

If you want to get rid of the whole of Plymouth all together, install the 
dummy package following the directions at 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/556372/comments/78

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards

Thomas Tanghus



From dotancohen at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 16:12:15 2012
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:12:15 -0400
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKDXFkMyNpurd-dVdj2uCnqUOzyYdcKe3ticKszEpPEzbsWdmw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 06:18, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
> But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the KDE
> side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like Calligra
> has. Suggestions welcome :)"
>

How about LibreDistro? FOSS names have never been great anyway. The
GNU Image Manipulation Program is in more urgent need of a name change
in my opinion.


-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com



From it at sca-uk.com  Wed Apr 11 16:31:56 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:31:56 -0300
Subject: Print Preview: No application is registered as handling this file
Message-ID: <2E365468DF7C4FDEA8F1A4B1903636DE@SACWS001>

Hi Guys,

I am using cups print framework to print and when I do a print preview from
it, that gives me the following error message:

"No application is registered as handling this file".

Any help much appreciated.

Regards

Steve




From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 17:23:49 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:23:49 -0600
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
In-Reply-To: <1830351.Q7qnOWDG61@linux1>
References: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com> <1830351.Q7qnOWDG61@linux1>
Message-ID: <4F85BE25.5020707@gmail.com>

Bruce Marshall said the following at 04/11/2012 09:43 AM :
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 09:19:09 AM D. R. Evans wrote:
>> How do I get the old detailed fsck progress messages that one normally sees
>> on most Linux distros, and we used to see on *buntu?
> 
> 
> I believe you can hit escape while the splash screen is up and it will start 
> showing the boot process.
> 

Hitting ESC just produces a message that says that the filesystem has been
mounted nnn times and a check is being forced. It does not provide the
progress information.

> What I do is:
> 
> 

[stuff elided]

> 
> Next time you reboot, the splash screen is gone.
> 

True, but there is also no progress status for the fsck. Just as with
hitting ESC, I just see a message telling me that a check is being forced.

  Doc

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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 17:29:12 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:29:12 -0600
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
In-Reply-To: <9160093.cjMlqbhA25@tanghus>
References: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com> <1830351.Q7qnOWDG61@linux1>
	<9160093.cjMlqbhA25@tanghus>
Message-ID: <4F85BF68.5050608@gmail.com>

Thomas Tanghus said the following at 04/11/2012 10:11 AM :

> 
> If you want to get rid of the whole of Plymouth all together, install the 
> dummy package following the directions at 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/556372/comments/78
> 

Tried that, and although plymouth is no longer present, still all I see
during the fsck is a message that a check is being forced... still no
information about the progress of the fsck.

(The actual message is:
  /dev/md2 has been mounted 33 times without being checked, check forced
No fsck progress status messages follow that message.)

  Doc

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From trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Apr 11 17:34:22 2012
From: trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk (Jim MacLeod)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:34:22 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>

On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 O. Sinclair wrote:
> It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10
> there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on
> Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
> 
> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
> 
> In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing name of
> the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
> 
> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and has
> a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in themselves
> mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a
> name that actually sort of means something.
> 
> I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I
> think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
> 
Blue Linux ..  Bluebuntu .. Blue-KDE ?

Jim




From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 17:43:01 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:43:01 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>
Message-ID: <4F85C2A5.2000604@gmail.com>

On 11/04/12 19:34, Jim MacLeod wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 O. Sinclair wrote:
>> It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10
>> there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on
>> Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
>>
>> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
>>
>> In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing name of
>> the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
>>
>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and has
>> a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in themselves
>> mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a
>> name that actually sort of means something.
>>
>> I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I
>> think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
>>
> Blue Linux ..  Bluebuntu .. Blue-KDE ?
>

I was in on the lines of Star OS, Star Linux, Stellar OS, Stellar Linux 
- something like that. Nice, strong and shiny so to speak. If Kubuntu is 
a registered name then I am pretty sure so is KDE ;-)



From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 17:47:53 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:47:53 -0400
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com>
	<2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>
Message-ID: <CA+N=XieaO=uX5zPnyfZB6TK1Y8N2yFqxejVEZXQ7EZECEoaD-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Don't change the name, just keep on improving the product!

... And yes, advertising on TV would be a real "sales" booster but probably
too expensive. We need to keep Kubuntu at the same low price.

Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
On Apr 11, 2012 1:35 PM, "Jim MacLeod" <trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 O. Sinclair wrote:
> > It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10
> > there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on
> > Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
> >
> > http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
> >
> > In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing name of
> > the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
> >
> > I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and has
> > a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in themselves
> > mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a
> > name that actually sort of means something.
> >
> > I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I
> > think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
> >
> Blue Linux ..  Bluebuntu .. Blue-KDE ?
>
> Jim
>
>
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 17:50:18 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:50:18 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F85C2A5.2000604@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>
	<4F85C2A5.2000604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F85C45A.4040000@gmail.com>

On 04/11/2012 12:43 PM, O. Sinclair wrote:
> On 11/04/12 19:34, Jim MacLeod wrote:
>> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 O. Sinclair wrote:
>>> It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10
>>> there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on
>>> Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
>>>
>>> In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing 
>>> name of
>>> the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
>>>
>>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and 
>>> has
>>> a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in themselves
>>> mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a
>>> name that actually sort of means something.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I
>>> think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
>>>
>> Blue Linux ..  Bluebuntu .. Blue-KDE ?
>>
>
> I was in on the lines of Star OS, Star Linux, Stellar OS, Stellar 
> Linux - something like that. Nice, strong and shiny so to speak. If 
> Kubuntu is a registered name then I am pretty sure so is KDE ;-)
>
I strongly disagree with changing names. Just because it has changed 
hands does not mean it has to change names too. The public knows it as 
Kubuntu, let's keep it that way. It is still based off Ubuntu using the 
beautiful KDE desktop environment. The public may think that Kubuntu is 
no longer around and that "Blue Linux, Bluebuntu, whatever you will call 
it" is a completely new distro, when in reality, is really Kubuntu in 
disguise with a new name and a new sponsor. I like having a sponsor such 
as Blue Systems, but a new name is not needed, actually, Kubuntu is 
needed, because that is what it is and was called ever since it was 
created. It is an official Ubuntu distro, let's keep the name the same. 
Thanks!

---Ryan



From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Wed Apr 11 18:34:58 2012
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:34:58 +0300
Subject: Webdesign in Kubuntu: what best to use instead of "Quanta Plus"?
In-Reply-To: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
References: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
Message-ID: <4F85CED2.3040306@prayingforisrael.net>

On 04/11/2012 04:27 PM, Bas Roufs - message in English wrote:
> Hello everybody
> When switching from Kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10, I remarked that "Quanta Plus" is
> not any more in the repository.  When checking this forum and elsewhere, I
> found out that there "Quanta Plus" seems to be too obsolete.
>
> However it may be, at this moment, I am using at least 7 packages for
> webdesign:
> Kompozer - for "WYSIG" web authoring,HTML, CSS and PHP;
> Kate for code writing, copying unformatted texts, etc.;
> Gwenview for quick and efficient standard operations with image files, like
> cutting, resizing, etc.;
> KSnapshot for copying images into single image files;
> Gimp for more complicated projects with image files;
> Firefox and other browsers to test the outcome of any web design effort;
> "FireFTP" for file transfer to upload new pages to the web.
>
> My question is: is there any other package you would recommand me using for
> web design purposes in Kubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?
> Respectfullly yours,
> Bas Roufs.
>

Inkscape - great for creating SVG files and for manipulating the free ones on 
http://openclipart.org/ - which can then be exported as png's.

Nigel



From richard at underpope.com  Wed Apr 11 18:41:22 2012
From: richard at underpope.com (Richard S. Crawford)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 11:41:22 -0700
Subject: Webdesign in Kubuntu: what best to use instead of "Quanta Plus"?
In-Reply-To: <4F85CED2.3040306@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
	<4F85CED2.3040306@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <CAA-5o3jABnqW9uWTBPZiGzxGmBoF_Y1Cz_Yv7ErUEd1UNJgjkA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Nigel Ridley
<nigel at prayingforisrael.net>wrote:

> On 04/11/2012 04:27 PM, Bas Roufs - message in English wrote:
>
>> Hello everybody
>> When switching from Kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10, I remarked that "Quanta Plus"
>> is
>> not any more in the repository.  When checking this forum and elsewhere, I
>> found out that there "Quanta Plus" seems to be too obsolete.
>>
>> However it may be, at this moment, I am using at least 7 packages for
>> webdesign:
>> Kompozer - for "WYSIG" web authoring,HTML, CSS and PHP;
>> Kate for code writing, copying unformatted texts, etc.;
>> Gwenview for quick and efficient standard operations with image files,
>> like
>> cutting, resizing, etc.;
>> KSnapshot for copying images into single image files;
>> Gimp for more complicated projects with image files;
>> Firefox and other browsers to test the outcome of any web design effort;
>> "FireFTP" for file transfer to upload new pages to the web.
>>
>> My question is: is there any other package you would recommand me using
>> for
>> web design purposes in Kubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?
>> Respectfullly yours,
>> Bas Roufs.
>>
>>
> Inkscape - great for creating SVG files and for manipulating the free ones
> on http://openclipart.org/ - which can then be exported as png's.


I definitely miss Quanta+, and I really wish it would be updated for later
versions of KDE. Alas, it's probably not to be.

I use Kate for coding purposes, and an in-house graphic designer for the
graphics on our site. ;-)



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From mmtsales at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 20:06:28 2012
From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 17:06:28 -0300
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2>
Message-ID: <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>

Em quarta-feira 11 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
> Hi,
> How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched on
> a smartphone?
> 
> thanks
> Paul

Handbrake is great for that. It comes with some preset profiles for 
several devices and you can create new profiles from scratch, specifying 
all parameters by yourself, or copying one of those that come with it 
and modifying them as needed.
It allows you to create mp4 files with several audio tracks and 
subtitles (although not always will be easy so find softwares for mobile 
devices that allow you to choose audio tracks or subtitles) or you can 
just burn the subtitles in the video, if you need them.
Very easy to use.

[]'s
Marcelo



From paul at lemmons.name  Wed Apr 11 20:55:44 2012
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:55:44 -0700
Subject: Webdesign in Kubuntu: what best to use instead of "Quanta Plus"?
In-Reply-To: <4F85CED2.3040306@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
	<4F85CED2.3040306@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <CA+G4hn2D5f1zLvY=GMZOJiO0wS+0K2-_HxH97weHz=S_j5LtGQ@mail.gmail.com>

I loved Quanta but alas it appears to be forever dead. I have switched
to NetBeans with the PHP extension and it is doing very well for me.
You wont find a PPA for it, though, so you need to download it from
their site: http://netbeans.org/downloads/ and be sure to pick the one
with "php" marked.

-- 
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little
security will deserve neither and lose both. --Benjamin Franklin



From womanthinker at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 21:54:37 2012
From: womanthinker at gmail.com (Katelyn)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:54:37 -0500
Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 87, Issue 14
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I love the name Kubuntu. Please don't change it.

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> From: Anj Tuesday <anj.tuesday at gmx.net>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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> Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 07:53:51 schrieb Steve Cookson:
> > > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> > > actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the
> > > KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> > > Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
> >
> > I took a strategic decision that W2k would be my last Windows distro, in
> > fact I upgraded to XP.
> >
> > And then I took on a new project and had to choose a system, I chose
> Kubuntu
> > for two reasons:
> >
> > - It had a more modern-looking desktop
> > - It met my technical requirements better than the other distros.
> >
> > I quite liked that it was part of the "Ubuntu" co-brand.  Think Georgio
> > Armani, Armani Jeans, Armani Exchange. It gave Kubuntu a larger
> foot-print
> > because of the other members of the family.  For that reason I feel the
> > Kubuntu punches above its weight.
> >
> > Had I understood about the connection with Debian at the time, this would
> > have given me the same feeling, but this is not intuitive from the name.
> >
> > Maybe it could have been "Debuntuk", to connect to Debian, Ubuntu and
> KDE in
> > one word.
> >
> > But it's all a bit clunky.  What we in the Linux community don't have it
> the
> > 'Windows' cover name to give every distro the associated values of the
> > family.
> >
> > Maybe it needs a 'nix in the name.
> >
> > Debuntuknix anyone?
> >
> > Have a good day.
> >
> > Steve
>
> K-Tux would be a little gangster, yes? :)
> ~Anja
> --
> (?v?)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:16:00 -0400
> From: Dale Trombley <buzzmandt at gmail.com>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself
> Message-ID:
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> I think if it were a brand new project it should have a new name. But the
> way I understand it it is still ubuntu+kde.  Joke name or not Kubuntu is
> now an established name in the *nix community.  My vote would be stick with
> the name everyone knows.
> On Apr 11, 2012 6:19 AM, "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
> >
> >> O. Sinclair wrote:
> >>
> >>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
> >>> has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in
> >>> themselves mean anything.
> >>>
> >>
> >>  From<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Kubuntu#Name<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>
> >>> >:
> >>>
> >>
> >> | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
> >> | ubuntu ("humanity").
> >>
> >>  Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan from
> > his blog that got me started on this:
> >
> > "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for distros
> and
> > we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often incorrectly called a
> > "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the Ubuntu family and we are
> one
> > of their flavours which is just where we should be.
> >
> > New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV friendly
> > media centre support too for example.
> >
> > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> > actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the
> KDE
> > side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> > Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> O. Sinclair wrote:
> > On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > > O. Sinclair wrote:
> > >> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language
> > >> and has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not
> > >> in themselves mean anything.
> > >>
> > >>From<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>:
> > > | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
> > > | ubuntu ("humanity").
> >
> > Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan
> > from his blog that got me started on this:
> >
> > "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for
> > distros and we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often
> > incorrectly called a "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the
> > Ubuntu family and we are one of their flavours which is just where
> > we should be.
> >
> > New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV
> > friendly media centre support too for example.
> >
> > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it
> > was actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers
> > for the KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease
> > of life like Calligra has. Suggestions welcome :)"
>
> I'm not so sure if the name is a problem. I think it is more a question
> of marketing. To paraphrase my first boss (actually he was qouting
> someone else): "You may want to give away a lump of gold but you will
> only find a taker if you advertise." Take Firefox as an example. They
> got their share of the browser market by an advert campaign and not
> because of a great name. Or take MS Word as a second example. It is a
> common name for a mediocre product but MS dominates the market due to
> agressive marketing.
>
>
> Nils
>
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From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl  Wed Apr 11 22:08:42 2012
From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:08:42 +0200
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
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References: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>,
	<1B0C8A1E62DB4F1AAB84EB37FACA7189@SACWS001>,
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Hello Buzzmabndt, It's a Asus Ati Radeon 9250 AGP.The support from the Linux distos is very sad, that's why many Windows users doesn't take the step to the better OS!I try 1 thing more..... Dennis
 Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:54:59 -0400
Subject: RE: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com

If its nvidia type this in konsole

kdesudo nvidia-settings
If not nvidia disregard 
On Apr 8, 2012 9:31 PM, "Steve Cookson" <it at sca-uk.com> wrote:








Hi 
Dennis,
 
I have 
K10.04 seeing a 21" 1920x1080 screen and several other (lesser) 
resolutions.  You shouldn't have to do anything, it should just detect it, 
but there is screen resolution setting programme under system setup (I think 
it's called that, I don't have my PC set to English at the 
moment).
 
If you 
don't have the right driver or patches, it may not work.
 
I had 
a new Gigabyte motherboard with K10.04 LTS and because the hardware was newer 
than the operating system it didn't detect all the settings.
 
If 
that is your problem, then upgrade your Kubuntu to 11.04 or 11.10 and it should 
detect everything.
 
Good 
luck.
 
Regards
 
Steve



From: kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com 
[mailto:kubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Dennis 
Linux
Sent: 08 April 2012 21:36
To: help
Subject: 
Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu



Why can Kubuntu only see 800x600 while Windows saw higher 
resolutions?
It looks that you have to be a computer programmer to change the 
resolution.
Itś defently no great future from Linux that its so diffucult to 
change a resolution!
I think that i trow Kubutu away if its so difficult to 
change a simple resolution from a videocard.
If someone have tips that stood 
not on google that please tell me how i can better resolotions than the stupid 
800x600.

Dennis


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From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com  Thu Apr 12 03:00:34 2012
From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Tom Bell)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:00:34 -0400
Subject: Boot problem
In-Reply-To: <CAET=m5FtQ81Pf+UnSzaZd_c3kYhBWiuGF7uGjHrTMn7bXr1FUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5Gh0tY7DRcHVXJQga_PvAb1-DGvsYn1+SUUTOQzV6wJzg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F85148B.9090408@cfl.rr.com>
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On 4/11/2012 5:09 AM, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
> *ya my pc is dual machine and i amusingdual maneger.*
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Tom Bell <cbell44 at cfl.rr.com
> <mailto:cbell44 at cfl.rr.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     On 4/10/2012 10:13 PM, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
>     > dear sir,
>     >        some websites are not open like speedtest.net
>     <http://speedtest.net>
>     > <http://speedtest.net/> and massage was displaying update java
>     > othervise uninstall java and reinstall java so i uninstalled
>     java .now
>     > i start the pc the pc is not starting pc only going booting process
>     > .how can i solve this problem.anybody can help me.i am using kubuntu
>     > 11.10.
>     > rajuramvani.
>     >
>     >
>
>     If you could try copying the message that appears when the failure
>     occurs,
>     or, if there is no message, then describe what happens up until
>     you get the
>     last screen.
>     Is this a dual boot machine?
>     Are you using a boot manager?
>
>     I have added subject line that describes as much of the problem
>     as I can garner from you message.  Mostly to prevent this and future
>     messages from ending up in the spam directory.
>     Please make all requests/responses to the list.
>
>     Thank you!
>
>     Tom
>     (This message is BCC'd to OP.)
>
>


I personally, cannot help you with this particular problem.   You need to
subscribe to the list and submit all your questions to the list and check
it for answers.  Someone can help, but only if you subscribe to the list.



From cp at ccil.org  Thu Apr 12 04:54:43 2012
From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:54:43 -0400
Subject: Webdesign in Kubuntu: what best to use instead of "Quanta Plus"?
In-Reply-To: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
References: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
Message-ID: <CAA+8RQZHTU-mMfxN_2d-kMQXx=JKMvP2vs033B9VKyXs7t66tA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bas Roufs - message in English
<basroufs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My question is: is there any other package you would recommand me using
> for web design purposes in Kubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?

A couple of other programs which are frequently mentioned are bluefish
and seamonkey, it has a composer mode.  Seamonkey in all versions of
Ubuntu is out of date and has security issues... You can get more up
to date versions with ubuntuzilla,
https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev. or
getting it directly from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/.

I thought I read something recently that said a set of plugins for
kdevelop will be used to replace quanta.  Perhaps one of the Kubuntu
developers can tell us more...

http://kdevelop.org/ says:
KDevPlatform
is a free, open source set of libraries that can be used as a
foundation for IDE-like programs.
It is programing-language independent, and is planned to be used by
programs like: KDevelop, Quanta, Kile, KTechLab ... etc.


http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kdev


Chuck



From juanrodriguezmonti at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 05:43:18 2012
From: juanrodriguezmonti at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Juan_Rodr=EDguez_Monti?=)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:43:18 -0300
Subject: Webdesign in Kubuntu: what best to use instead of "Quanta Plus"?
In-Reply-To: <CAA+8RQZHTU-mMfxN_2d-kMQXx=JKMvP2vs033B9VKyXs7t66tA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
	<CAA+8RQZHTU-mMfxN_2d-kMQXx=JKMvP2vs033B9VKyXs7t66tA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALney18_BmHUe6Pn_jUNKNWx+POvnRpXM9hkng_9HLK8VP+UYw@mail.gmail.com>

2012/4/12 Chuck Peters <cp at ccil.org>

> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bas Roufs - message in English
> <basroufs at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > My question is: is there any other package you would recommand me using
> > for web design purposes in Kubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?
>

Why not using the Java based Eclipse, Aptana or Netbeans ?. There work
greatly.

Juan
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From thomas at tanghus.net  Thu Apr 12 06:42:25 2012
From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus Olsen)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:42:25 +0200
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3877022.3koiioF39z@tanghus>

On Monday 09 April 2012 02:35 Dennis Linux wrote:
> Why can Kubuntu only see 800x600 while Windows saw higher resolutions?
> It looks that you have to be a computer programmer to change the resolution.
> Itś defently no great future from Linux that its so diffucult to change a
> resolution! I think that i trow Kubutu away if its so difficult to change a
> simple resolution from a videocard. If someone have tips that stood not on
> google that please tell me how i can better resolotions than the stupid
> 800x600.
> 
> Dennis

Not that I think I can help, but I see no one asking some basic questions, 
which might be helpful:

- Which Kubuntu version are you using?
- Which KDE version are you using?
- How do you try to change the resolution? System Settings/Hardware/Display 
and Monitor/Size and Orientation? What does it say there?
- Do you use the open source radeon driver or the proprietary?
- What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? (in pastebin please, not in mail). I use 
the open source radeon driver and it says it supports among other chipsets: 
"ATI Radeon 9250 5960 (AGP)".

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards

Thomas Tanghus Olsen



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 06:51:48 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:51:48 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <4F85C45A.4040000@gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>
	<4F85C2A5.2000604@gmail.com> <4F85C45A.4040000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F867B84.4040703@gmail.com>

On 11/04/12 19:50, Ryan Gauger wrote:
> On 04/11/2012 12:43 PM, O. Sinclair wrote:
>> On 11/04/12 19:34, Jim MacLeod wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 O. Sinclair wrote:
>>>> It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10
>>>> there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on
>>>> Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
>>>>
>>>> In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing
>>>> name of
>>>> the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
>>>>
>>>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
>>>> has
>>>> a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in themselves
>>>> mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a
>>>> name that actually sort of means something.
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I
>>>> think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
>>>>
>>> Blue Linux .. Bluebuntu .. Blue-KDE ?
>>>
>>
>> I was in on the lines of Star OS, Star Linux, Stellar OS, Stellar
>> Linux - something like that. Nice, strong and shiny so to speak. If
>> Kubuntu is a registered name then I am pretty sure so is KDE ;-)
>>
> I strongly disagree with changing names. Just because it has changed
> hands does not mean it has to change names too. The public knows it as
> Kubuntu, let's keep it that way. It is still based off Ubuntu using the
> beautiful KDE desktop environment. The public may think that Kubuntu is
> no longer around and that "Blue Linux, Bluebuntu, whatever you will call
> it" is a completely new distro, when in reality, is really Kubuntu in
> disguise with a new name and a new sponsor. I like having a sponsor such
> as Blue Systems, but a new name is not needed, actually, Kubuntu is
> needed, because that is what it is and was called ever since it was
> created. It is an official Ubuntu distro, let's keep the name the same.
> Thanks!

Note that I certainly do not have any influence apart from being a user, 
I just read Jonathan's blog and found the idea interesting. I happen to 
agree with Kubuntu not being a particularly "good name" but very 
obviously a lot of the members of the list do not.

Other distros have managed namechanges over the years for various 
reasons so I see no particular reason why not and couple it with 
marketing efforts and then who knows?

regards,
Sinclair




From linux at appjaws.plus.com  Thu Apr 12 09:28:37 2012
From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:28:37 +0100
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2> <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2215748.WEMWYYNCNz@pc2>

On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 17:06:28 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> Em quarta-feira 11 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
> > Hi,
> > How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched on
> > a smartphone?
> > 
> > thanks
> > Paul
> 
> Handbrake is great for that. It comes with some preset profiles for
> several devices and you can create new profiles from scratch, specifying
> all parameters by yourself, or copying one of those that come with it
> and modifying them as needed.
> It allows you to create mp4 files with several audio tracks and
> subtitles (although not always will be easy so find softwares for mobile
> devices that allow you to choose audio tracks or subtitles) or you can
> just burn the subtitles in the video, if you need them.
> Very easy to use.
> 
Thanks for the info.  Where do I get it from and how do I install it?



From linux at appjaws.plus.com  Thu Apr 12 09:43:34 2012
From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:43:34 +0100
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2> <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1664655.Uji8dixc1k@pc2>

On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 17:06:28 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> Em quarta-feira 11 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
> > Hi,
> > How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched on
> > a smartphone?
> > 
> > thanks
> > Paul
> 
> Handbrake is great for that. It comes with some preset profiles for
> several devices and you can create new profiles from scratch, specifying
> all parameters by yourself, or copying one of those that come with it
> and modifying them as needed.
> It allows you to create mp4 files with several audio tracks and
> subtitles (although not always will be easy so find softwares for mobile
> devices that allow you to choose audio tracks or subtitles) or you can
> just burn the subtitles in the video, if you need them.
> Very easy to use.
I have added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases and then 
did ---
sudo apt-get install handbrake
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package handbrake is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'handbrake' has no installation candidate

Any ideas?
Paul




From mmtsales at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 09:49:12 2012
From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:49:12 -0300
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <2215748.WEMWYYNCNz@pc2>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2> <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>
	<2215748.WEMWYYNCNz@pc2>
Message-ID: <201204120649.12417.mmtsales@gmail.com>

Em quinta-feira 12 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 17:06:28 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > Em quarta-feira 11 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
> > > Hi,
> > > How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched
> > > on a smartphone?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > Paul
> > 
> > Handbrake is great for that. It comes with some preset profiles for
> > several devices and you can create new profiles from scratch,
> > specifying all parameters by yourself, or copying one of those
> > that come with it and modifying them as needed.
> > It allows you to create mp4 files with several audio tracks and
> > subtitles (although not always will be easy so find softwares for
> > mobile devices that allow you to choose audio tracks or subtitles)
> > or you can just burn the subtitles in the video, if you need them.
> > Very easy to use.
> 
> Thanks for the info.  Where do I get it from and how do I install it?

http://handbrake.fr/

[]'s
Marcelo



From mmtsales at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 10:09:49 2012
From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:09:49 -0300
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <1664655.Uji8dixc1k@pc2>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2> <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>
	<1664655.Uji8dixc1k@pc2>
Message-ID: <201204120709.49390.mmtsales@gmail.com>

Em quinta-feira 12 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 17:06:28 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > Em quarta-feira 11 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
> > > Hi,
> > > How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched
> > > on a smartphone?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > Paul
> > 
> > Handbrake is great for that. It comes with some preset profiles for
> > several devices and you can create new profiles from scratch,
> > specifying all parameters by yourself, or copying one of those
> > that come with it and modifying them as needed.
> > It allows you to create mp4 files with several audio tracks and
> > subtitles (although not always will be easy so find softwares for
> > mobile devices that allow you to choose audio tracks or subtitles)
> > or you can just burn the subtitles in the video, if you need them.
> > Very easy to use.
> 
> I have added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases
> and then did ---
> sudo apt-get install handbrake
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Package handbrake is not available, but is referred to by another
> package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been
> obsoleted, or is only available from another source
> 
> E: Package 'handbrake' has no installation candidate
> 
> Any ideas?
> Paul

I think that the package name is handbrake-gtk. Try using:
dpkg-query -l handbrake*
to confirm this.

[]'s
Marcelo



From rterry at pacific.net.au  Thu Apr 12 10:49:19 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:49:19 +1000
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <CA+N=XieaO=uX5zPnyfZB6TK1Y8N2yFqxejVEZXQ7EZECEoaD-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <2997303.6hbdc6xta3@trymside>
	<CA+N=XieaO=uX5zPnyfZB6TK1Y8N2yFqxejVEZXQ7EZECEoaD-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204122049.19770.rterry@pacific.net.au>

On Thursday 12 April 2012 03:47:53 Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote:
> Don't change the name, just keep on improving the product!

My vote as well!

richard

> 
> ... And yes, advertising on TV would be a real "sales" booster but probably
> too expensive. We need to keep Kubuntu at the same low price.
> 
> Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
> 
> On Apr 11, 2012 1:35 PM, "Jim MacLeod" <trym.side at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 O. Sinclair wrote:
> > > It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10
> > > there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This was on
> > > Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
> > >
> > > http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
> > >
> > > In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing name
> > > of the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
> > >
> > > I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
> > > has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in
> > > themselves mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based
> > > but with a name that actually sort of means something.
> > >
> > > I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day but I
> > > think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
> >
> > Blue Linux ..  Bluebuntu .. Blue-KDE ?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > --
> > kubuntu-users mailing list
> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
> 



From rterry at pacific.net.au  Thu Apr 12 11:04:21 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:04:21 +1000
Subject: Partitioning question - the outcome
In-Reply-To: <201204110759.20500.rterry@pacific.net.au>
References: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<201204110759.20500.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <201204122104.21575.rterry@pacific.net.au>

On Wednesday 11 April 2012 07:59:20 rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 April 2012 22:55:34 Paul Kaplan wrote:
> > I have for years kept Kubuntu and Windows on the same physical drive.
> >
> >
> > Currently for a 64-bin install:
> >
> >
> > /dev/sda1 (WinXP) 30GB (same is probably OK for Win7 if you have MS
> > Office and 1-2 other similarly sized programs) /dev/sda2 (/home) 120GB
> > (really whatever isn't used for the other 3 partitions) /dev/sda3 (swap)
> > 6GB (probably should be 8GB for 4GB RAM)
> > /dev/sda4 (/) 10GB (might bump to 12GB if you want to install Gnome as
> > well as KDE, but I've never been higher than ~75% use with KDE only +
> > lots of stuff)
> 
> Thanks for your reply - will work along these lines.
> 
> > This allows you to do a new install on /dev/sda4 in the future without
> >  disrupting /home. Paul
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rterry at pacific.net.au
> > To: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:15:56 AM
> > Subject: Partitioning question
> >
> > Hi List,
> >
> > Not particularly Kubuntu, but would appreciate some partitioning advice.
> >
> > I've an asus laptop with an SD 120GIG drive + 750G second drive. The
> > laptop came with just Win7 on the SD drive. I installed Kubuntu 11 on the
> > second drive. Now, I never ever boot into Windows, though for some
> > irrational reason (maybe because it is a licenced copy) I'm loathe to
> > wipe it in case "I ever need it".
> >
> > I wonder if it would be possible to wipe the Kubuntu partition and
> >  re-install a virgin Kubuntu 12, but partially on the 120Gig SD drive, to
> >  get the faster boot up speed, if so I'd have to manually tell the
> >  installer what partitions go where and what size and I'm not sure what
> > to do during the install. I'm happy to shrink the 120G partition with a
> > partion manager prior to the install.
> >
> > Any basic pointers appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Richard
> 

For anyone interested this is what happened.

I shrunk the windows 7 partition and elected to put  the / partition on the 
60Gig left on the sdram drive and use the 750gig drive as /home.

Used the beta2 of Kubuntu 12 for the install

Boy, talk  about frustrating. Several attemps and each time the install froze 
when downloading packages, I think from memory on package 6 of 57 and always 
on 6%.

I made sure on a third attempt that update  on install and load proprietry 
software were not checked - same result.

In desperation I did a last install but pulled out the cable to the router so 
that the internet couldn't accessed. This resulted in a quick and painless 
install.

I was then able to reboot, connect to the network and install almost all of 
the packages I wanted without problems.

However Muon consistantly baulked on updates telling me that  I wasn't allowed 
to update because something or other was locked (the same message one gets 
when trying to install a package from one terminal when your in the process of 
doing an install on another - forget the actually wording). Rebooting and 
doing nothing else before doing a sudo muon made no difference.

Doing an apt-get update in a terminal worked fine.

Another observation, the permissions on  /home/user/.kde where not set for the 
user.

Regards

richard



From rterry at pacific.net.au  Thu Apr 12 11:08:13 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:08:13 +1000
Subject: Posgresql 8.4 on Kubuntu 12 ?possible
Message-ID: <201204122108.13171.rterry@pacific.net.au>

Hi List,

I need to stick to Postgresql 8.4 and couldn't see a package for this in the 
standard repos.

?possible, if so how, any help appreciated.

richard



From silhusk at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 11:48:27 2012
From: silhusk at gmail.com (Carlo Vanini)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:48:27 +0200
Subject: convert dvd for smartphone.
In-Reply-To: <201204120709.49390.mmtsales@gmail.com>
References: <5778434.UuvmlkW1C2@pc2> <201204111706.28703.mmtsales@gmail.com>
	<1664655.Uji8dixc1k@pc2> <201204120709.49390.mmtsales@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP9tpJiHzXnRXAOtu28S2Pr_5VytMpKjCB2MiZ-Rcji2G8+Fig@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Marcelo Magno T. Sales
<mmtsales at gmail.com> wrote:
> Em quinta-feira 12 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
>> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 17:06:28 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
>> > Em quarta-feira 11 abril 2012, Paul Stear escreveu:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > How do you convert a copy protected DVD so that iy can be watched
>> > > on a smartphone?
>> > >
>> > > thanks
>> > > Paul
>> >
>> > Handbrake is great for that. It comes with some preset profiles for
>> > several devices and you can create new profiles from scratch,
>> > specifying all parameters by yourself, or copying one of those
>> > that come with it and modifying them as needed.
>> > It allows you to create mp4 files with several audio tracks and
>> > subtitles (although not always will be easy so find softwares for
>> > mobile devices that allow you to choose audio tracks or subtitles)
>> > or you can just burn the subtitles in the video, if you need them.
>> > Very easy to use.
>>
>> I have added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases
>> and then did ---
>> sudo apt-get install handbrake
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Package handbrake is not available, but is referred to by another
>> package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been
>> obsoleted, or is only available from another source
>>
>> E: Package 'handbrake' has no installation candidate
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> Paul
>
> I think that the package name is handbrake-gtk. Try using:
> dpkg-query -l handbrake*
> to confirm this.
>
> []'s
> Marcelo
>

you might also need to
apt-get update
before doing apt-get install

hth,
Carlo



From gbonnema at xs4all.nl  Thu Apr 12 12:37:33 2012
From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:33 +0200
Subject: Partitioning question - the outcome
In-Reply-To: <201204122104.21575.rterry@pacific.net.au>
References: <989728425.811677.1334062534173.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<201204110759.20500.rterry@pacific.net.au>
	<201204122104.21575.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <4F86CC8D.1060409@xs4all.nl>

On 12/04/12 13:04, rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 April 2012 07:59:20 rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
>>
> For anyone interested this is what happened.
>
> I shrunk the windows 7 partition and elected to put  the / partition on the
> 60Gig left on the sdram drive and use the 750gig drive as /home.
>
> Used the beta2 of Kubuntu 12 for the install
>
> Boy, talk  about frustrating. Several attemps and each time the install froze
> when downloading packages, I think from memory on package 6 of 57 and always
> on 6%.
>
> I made sure on a third attempt that update  on install and load proprietry
> software were not checked - same result.
>
> In desperation I did a last install but pulled out the cable to the router so
> that the internet couldn't accessed. This resulted in a quick and painless
> install.
In my experience installing from a CD or DVD is always the safest 
option. As soon as you combine the internet and CD/DVD install you run 
the risk of this kind of problem. I suspect that the trouble depends on 
the availability of mirrors: when that runs into trouble, so do you.

My strategy is always a straight, easy install from CD (not too many 
packages) and update after install.
>
> I was then able to reboot, connect to the network and install almost all of
> the packages I wanted without problems.
Yep, that works best. Not just for Ubuntu and family, but also for 
Fedora. The only upgrade I have ever done from the network was an 
in-place upgrade where I had the CD ready to overwrite if necessary, and 
it worked. IIRC it was Kubuntu or Ubuntu.
>
> However Muon consistantly baulked on updates telling me that  I wasn't allowed
> to update because something or other was locked (the same message one gets
> when trying to install a package from one terminal when your in the process of
> doing an install on another - forget the actually wording). Rebooting and
> doing nothing else before doing a sudo muon made no difference.
>
> Doing an apt-get update in a terminal worked fine.
I found this bug that describes what you are saying, please check: 
http://old.nabble.com/-Bug-285787--New%3A-Muon-cannot-acquire-package-system-lock-p32784352.html
-- 
Kind regards, Guus Bonnema



From sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk  Thu Apr 12 13:42:23 2012
From: sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk (James Tappin)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:42:23 +0100
Subject: Webdesign in Kubuntu: what best to use instead of "Quanta Plus"?
In-Reply-To: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
References: <8040181.5gUJaK9cDR@viaconsensus-travel>
Message-ID: <20120412144223.43098a55.sjt@star.sr.bham.ac.uk>

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:27:48 +0200
Bas Roufs - message in English <basroufs at gmail.com> wrote:

BRMIE> My question is: is there any other package you would recommand me
BRMIE> using for  web design purposes in Kubuntu 11.10 and 12.04?

For what web development I do, I use the same editor that I use for
Fortan, IDL and LaTeX -- emacs.

-- 
+------------------------+-------------------------------+---------+
| James Tappin           | School of Physics & Astronomy |  O__    |
| sjt at star.sr.bham.ac.uk | University of Birmingham      | --  \/` |
| Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722                  |         |
+--------------------------------------------------------+---------+



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 13:55:50 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:55:50 -0600
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
In-Reply-To: <4F85BE25.5020707@gmail.com>
References: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com> <1830351.Q7qnOWDG61@linux1>
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D. R. Evans said the following at 04/11/2012 11:23 AM :
> Bruce Marshall said the following at 04/11/2012 09:43 AM :
>> On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 09:19:09 AM D. R. Evans wrote:
>>> How do I get the old detailed fsck progress messages that one normally sees
>>> on most Linux distros, and we used to see on *buntu?
>>

Anyone else any ideas? Surely I'm not the only one who wants to see these
status messages so I can make an informed decision as to when/whether to
cancel an fsck?

  Doc

-- 
Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR

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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 14:11:44 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:11:44 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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On 04/12/2012 01:51 AM, O. Sinclair wrote:
> On 11/04/12 19:50, Ryan Gauger wrote:
>> On 04/11/2012 12:43 PM, O. Sinclair wrote:
>>> On 11/04/12 19:34, Jim MacLeod wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 11:53:41 O. Sinclair wrote:
>>>>> It seems exciting times are coming to Kubuntu as from release 12.10
>>>>> there will be a new corporate sponsor, namely Blue Systems. This 
>>>>> was on
>>>>> Planet KDE, written by Jonathan Riddell:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4565
>>>>>
>>>>> In an earlier posting Jonathan mentioned the thought of changing
>>>>> name of
>>>>> the distro since it will not be as tied up to Ubuntu as before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
>>>>> has
>>>>> a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in 
>>>>> themselves
>>>>> mean anything. Think Linux Mint rather, still ubuntu based but with a
>>>>> name that actually sort of means something.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure if Jonathan was serious or just going wild that day 
>>>>> but I
>>>>> think it is not a bad idea. What does the list think?
>>>>>
>>>> Blue Linux .. Bluebuntu .. Blue-KDE ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was in on the lines of Star OS, Star Linux, Stellar OS, Stellar
>>> Linux - something like that. Nice, strong and shiny so to speak. If
>>> Kubuntu is a registered name then I am pretty sure so is KDE ;-)
>>>
>> I strongly disagree with changing names. Just because it has changed
>> hands does not mean it has to change names too. The public knows it as
>> Kubuntu, let's keep it that way. It is still based off Ubuntu using the
>> beautiful KDE desktop environment. The public may think that Kubuntu is
>> no longer around and that "Blue Linux, Bluebuntu, whatever you will call
>> it" is a completely new distro, when in reality, is really Kubuntu in
>> disguise with a new name and a new sponsor. I like having a sponsor such
>> as Blue Systems, but a new name is not needed, actually, Kubuntu is
>> needed, because that is what it is and was called ever since it was
>> created. It is an official Ubuntu distro, let's keep the name the same.
>> Thanks!
>
> Note that I certainly do not have any influence apart from being a 
> user, I just read Jonathan's blog and found the idea interesting. I 
> happen to agree with Kubuntu not being a particularly "good name" but 
> very obviously a lot of the members of the list do not.
>
> Other distros have managed namechanges over the years for various 
> reasons so I see no particular reason why not and couple it with 
> marketing efforts and then who knows?
>
> regards,
> Sinclair
>
>
The way I see it is if the name is changed, the public will see it as no 
longer an official Ubuntu derivative, which it still is. You've got 
Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and Kubuntu. They all make up the *buntu 
family. If Kubuntu is no longer part of the *buntu family, then the 
public may see it as no longer an official Ubuntu derivative, and lo 
longer part of the *buntu family. Thanks!

---Ryan

"For God loved the world in this way: He gave His one and only Son, so 
that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." - 
John 3:16



From jriddell at ubuntu.com  Thu Apr 12 15:40:11 2012
From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:40:11 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <CAGzoOB-zi6eBmbg5eS-N9OJN=-2=GVgctSiqF22Zckkx=mPibg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
	<CAPQHEAycG93v=O_FeG1Pn5epgoEEN_LVb2mCPFcF7ZapcUPRpQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGzoOB-zi6eBmbg5eS-N9OJN=-2=GVgctSiqF22Zckkx=mPibg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANX=XXP8bfb=4A6HYs_cBZHt6WM8R8VH4QYbUpXA-sJAzLTxMA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11 April 2012 16:27, Myriam Schweingruber <myriam at kubuntu.org> wrote:
> I fear it is not as easy as that: Kubuntu is a registered trademark of
> Canonical Ltd. as the footer of the website tells. So we might not
> have much of a choice there...
>
> IANAL, so somebody with more insight should tell us more about that.
> Jonathan maybe?

Canonical owns the trademark on Kubuntu.  They give a generous licence
intended to encourage community use but now with other companies
interested in sponsoring it I'm in discussions to see if Canonical are
happy for the name to be used by other supporters.  If they aren't
we'll need to change it.

Jonathan



From kassube at gmx.net  Thu Apr 12 16:40:25 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:40:25 +0200
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
In-Reply-To: <4F86DEE6.2040807@gmail.com>
References: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com> <4F85BE25.5020707@gmail.com>
	<4F86DEE6.2040807@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204121840.25804.kassube@gmx.net>

D. R. Evans wrote:
> >>> How do I get the old detailed fsck progress messages that one
> >>> normally sees on most Linux distros, and we used to see on
> >>> *buntu?
> 
> Anyone else any ideas? Surely I'm not the only one who wants to see
> these status messages so I can make an informed decision as to
> when/whether to cancel an fsck?

Well, I don't really care about the fsck progress messages myself but I 
just had a quick look at the init scripts. If I understand it correctly, 
the program /sbin/mountall needs a change to add the extra option "-C 0" 
to the fsck call. But this is only a pointer where to look, I didn't 
test anything.


Nils



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 17:49:15 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:49:15 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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On 12/04/12 17:40, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On 11 April 2012 16:27, Myriam Schweingruber<myriam at kubuntu.org>  wrote:
>> I fear it is not as easy as that: Kubuntu is a registered trademark of
>> Canonical Ltd. as the footer of the website tells. So we might not
>> have much of a choice there...
>>
>> IANAL, so somebody with more insight should tell us more about that.
>> Jonathan maybe?
>
> Canonical owns the trademark on Kubuntu.  They give a generous licence
> intended to encourage community use but now with other companies
> interested in sponsoring it I'm in discussions to see if Canonical are
> happy for the name to be used by other supporters.  If they aren't
> we'll need to change it.
>
> Jonathan
>
Thanks for the heads-up Jonathan! Read some suggested names here if it 
comes to that but clearly most commentators are happy to be Kubuntu in 
the future too.

I still like Stellar (one of my suggestions) - kind of classy, quality 
and shiny. To me, that is.

Sinclair



From basroufs at gmail.com  Fri Apr 13 13:52:08 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:52:08 +0200
Subject: Calligra office suite: first impressions.
Message-ID: <2465132.1sqTuRLgjK@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello Everybody

Via this mail I would like to give compliments to the developers  of the new 
KDE office suite "Calligra". Today, I installed it in Kubuntu 11.10 via the 
regular ppa backport repository. I really love it immediately! It looks like a 
very adequate toolkit for creative and artistic word processing, sheet 
calculations, presentations, etc. 

Of course, there are still a few rough edges to deal with in the further 
development of Calligra. When observing them, I will share them via this forum 
- of course, in a constructive way.

Today, I have experimented a bit with the word processor as wel as with "Brain 
Dump".  

In the word procesor, I found two major points of attention so far. 

I have looked for a possibility for export to .doc, .docx, pdf and other 
formats. So far, I only found a way to export to PDF: File > export to PDF.
For the other formats, I have looked under FILE > save as and FILE > export. I 
did not find it there. I will keep using LibreOffice next to Calligra until this 
essential feature will be available. 

In LibreOffice, there is a effective way to establish the 
basic styles and formatting, like the default font: FORMAT > styles and 
formatting (F11).  Is there something similar in Calligra?

With respect to "Braindump": is this meant for mind mapping? I am wondering 
whether two closely interrelated mind mapping projects also could be 
integrated somehow in the Calligra family: 
"Freeplane" (http://freeplane.sourceforge.net);
"Docear", http://www.docear.org/
The combination of Freeplane, Docear, Braindump and all other Calligra 
packages could create together a very powerful mind mapping, creativity 
boosting tool box. 


Finally, I am looking for a widget for the panel: for launching all the 
Calligra applications. Another good option could be a widget for ALL the office 
applications. Now, when copying the office typing machine symbol to the panel, I  
get a duplicate of the K-launcher, however, with the typing machine symbol.

Here, my first reflection on Calligra finishes.
Respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs.
-- 
Bas G. Roufs MA
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
Tel. +31 30 785 40
Websites in construction:
BasRoufs.eu 
Viaconsensus.nl 
RainbowGathering.eu 
Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 11.10. 
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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Fri Apr 13 13:56:08 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:56:08 -0600
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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Nils Kassube said the following at 04/12/2012 10:40 AM :

> 
> Well, I don't really care about the fsck progress messages myself but I 
> just had a quick look at the init scripts. If I understand it correctly, 
> the program /sbin/mountall needs a change to add the extra option "-C 0" 
> to the fsck call. But this is only a pointer where to look, I didn't 
> test anything.
> 

I suspect that should be "-C 1", since I think stdout has the file
descriptor 1 (0 is stdin, I believe).

It's been a long time since I looked at how Linux boots; where are the init
scripts I should be looking at to make this change?

  Doc

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From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Apr 13 14:43:00 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:43:00 +0200
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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D. R. Evans wrote:
> Nils Kassube said the following at 04/12/2012 10:40 AM :
> > Well, I don't really care about the fsck progress messages myself
> > but I just had a quick look at the init scripts. If I understand
> > it correctly, the program /sbin/mountall needs a change to add the
> > extra option "-C 0" to the fsck call. But this is only a pointer
> > where to look, I didn't test anything.
> 
> I suspect that should be "-C 1", since I think stdout has the file
> descriptor 1 (0 is stdin, I believe).

Yes, stdout is 1. From "man e2fsck":

| -C fd
[...]
|   If the file descriptor specified is 0, e2fsck will print a
|   completion bar as it goes about its business. This requires that
|   e2fsck is running on a video console or terminal.

That's why I suggested "-C 0". I would expect the output to go to a 
video console, if you have no "splash" option for the kernel command 
line.


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Apr 13 15:01:58 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:01:58 +0200
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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D. R. Evans wrote:
> It's been a long time since I looked at how Linux boots; where are
> the init scripts I should be looking at to make this change?

I searched with the command

sudo grep -lire fsck /etc

The relevant file is "/etc/init/mountall.conf". The fsck program isn't 
called directly from the script but by the program /sbin/mountall and 
that's why I suggested to change that program. I think you should 
generate a new initrd with the command

sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)

after changing the program to make it work at the next boot.


Nils



From doc.evans at gmail.com  Fri Apr 13 15:37:43 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:37:43 -0600
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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Nils Kassube said the following at 04/13/2012 09:01 AM :

> sudo grep -lire fsck /etc
> 
> The relevant file is "/etc/init/mountall.conf". The fsck program isn't 
> called directly from the script but by the program /sbin/mountall and 
> that's why I suggested to change that program. I think you should 
> generate a new initrd with the command
> 
> sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
> 
> after changing the program to make it work at the next boot.

Still confused :-(

/sbin/mountall is a binary; so are you saying that I need to find the
source for mountall, figure out how to change it so that is calls fsck
differently, build it, then replace the official version?

I hope that's not what you're saying. It seems crazy to have to do all that
just to get progress information on the fsck.

But perhaps that's why when I googled I found a lot of complaints about the
loss of the progress information, but no one seemed to provide a way to get
it back.

  Doc

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From kassube at gmx.net  Fri Apr 13 16:20:06 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:20:06 +0200
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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D. R. Evans wrote:
> Nils Kassube said the following at 04/13/2012 09:01 AM :
> > sudo grep -lire fsck /etc
> > 
> > The relevant file is "/etc/init/mountall.conf". The fsck program
> > isn't called directly from the script but by the program
> > /sbin/mountall and that's why I suggested to change that program.
> > I think you should generate a new initrd with the command
> > 
> > sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
> > 
> > after changing the program to make it work at the next boot.
> 
> Still confused :-(
> 
> /sbin/mountall is a binary; so are you saying that I need to find the
> source for mountall, figure out how to change it so that is calls
> fsck differently, build it, then replace the official version?

Yepp - that's what I suggested. BTW: You can download the source with 
the command

apt-get source mountall

but I didn't check how to proceed after that.


Nils



From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Fri Apr 13 17:35:16 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:35:16 +0300
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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Message-ID: <4F8863D4.9060206@whamra.com>

On 04/13/2012 07:20 PM, Nils Kassube wrote:
> D. R. Evans wrote:
>> Nils Kassube said the following at 04/13/2012 09:01 AM :
>>> sudo grep -lire fsck /etc
>>>
>>> The relevant file is "/etc/init/mountall.conf". The fsck program
>>> isn't called directly from the script but by the program
>>> /sbin/mountall and that's why I suggested to change that program.
>>> I think you should generate a new initrd with the command
>>>
>>> sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r)
>>>
>>> after changing the program to make it work at the next boot.
>>
>> Still confused :-(
>>
>> /sbin/mountall is a binary; so are you saying that I need to find the
>> source for mountall, figure out how to change it so that is calls
>> fsck differently, build it, then replace the official version?
> 
> Yepp - that's what I suggested. BTW: You can download the source with 
> the command
> 
> apt-get source mountall
> 
> but I didn't check how to proceed after that.
> 
> 
> Nils
> 

well i can think of 2 possibilities for this situation.
checking mountall, it seems to accept the "--verbose" parameter, but i
am not sure if that has the desired effect.
if you look into /etc/init/mountall.conf, there's an exec line that
contains the mountall command, with few parameters, add --verbose to the
end of the command, and see if that bring satisfying verbosity, if not,
you can safely remove the parameter.
the other option is not as straightforward, but certainly much easier
than hacking source code. rename /sbin/fsck into /sbin/fsck.orig

sudo mv -v /sbin/fsck{,.orig}

then create a script that calls it with the C parameter, so the script
can be:

#!/bin/bash
fsck.orig $@ -C 0

the only complication i see here, is that it may not be fsck that is
called, but rather a specialized fsck.ext3 or fsck.ext4, in which case,
you'll need to do a similar replacement to each of them.
in a standard system, you're supposed to call fsck, and let it decide
which specialized helper to call, along with the parameters passed to
it, but you never know.

just make sure to set appropriate permissions:

sudo chown root:root /sbin/fsck
sudo chmod 755 /sbin/fsck

hope this helps
and note, the mountall.conf mentions there will be a future
implementation in which there's a status bar, but it seems not there out
of laziness :P

-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems

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From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Sat Apr 14 06:06:37 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:06:37 +0300
Subject: Calligra office suite: first impressions.
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On 04/13/2012 04:52 PM, Bas Roufs - message in English wrote:
> Hello Everybody
> 
> Via this mail I would like to give compliments to the developers  of the new 
> KDE office suite "Calligra". Today, I installed it in Kubuntu 11.10 via the 
> regular ppa backport repository. I really love it immediately! It looks like a 
> very adequate toolkit for creative and artistic word processing, sheet 
> calculations, presentations, etc. 
> 
> Of course, there are still a few rough edges to deal with in the further 
> development of Calligra. When observing them, I will share them via this forum 
> - of course, in a constructive way.
> 
> Today, I have experimented a bit with the word processor as wel as with "Brain 
> Dump".  
> 
> In the word procesor, I found two major points of attention so far. 
> 
> I have looked for a possibility for export to .doc, .docx, pdf and other 
> formats. So far, I only found a way to export to PDF: File > export to PDF.
> For the other formats, I have looked under FILE > save as and FILE > export. I 
> did not find it there. I will keep using LibreOffice next to Calligra until this 
> essential feature will be available. 
> 
> In LibreOffice, there is a effective way to establish the 
> basic styles and formatting, like the default font: FORMAT > styles and 
> formatting (F11).  Is there something similar in Calligra?
> 
> With respect to "Braindump": is this meant for mind mapping? I am wondering 
> whether two closely interrelated mind mapping projects also could be 
> integrated somehow in the Calligra family: 
> "Freeplane" (http://freeplane.sourceforge.net);
> "Docear", http://www.docear.org/
> The combination of Freeplane, Docear, Braindump and all other Calligra 
> packages could create together a very powerful mind mapping, creativity 
> boosting tool box. 
> 
> 
> Finally, I am looking for a widget for the panel: for launching all the 
> Calligra applications. Another good option could be a widget for ALL the office 
> applications. Now, when copying the office typing machine symbol to the panel, I  
> get a duplicate of the K-launcher, however, with the typing machine symbol.
> 
> Here, my first reflection on Calligra finishes.
> Respectfully yours,
> Bas Roufs.
> 

very interesting, will probably install and try it out in the next few
days. you mentioned that export to some MS formats isn't supported, or
implemented, yet. what about import from these formats? does it exist?
is it reliable?
as far as i'm concerned here, PDF is all i need to share my writings,
but the troublesome part is reading the MS files other people send to me.
hopefully, if usable enough, calligra will have a new tester and bug
reporter, to help them get better. i mean really, i don't care much
about lack of features, incosistency, or the sort, as long as the
product is usable enough, i'll help its developers make it better :)

2 hours of aptitude left to get the suite...


-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems

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From buzzmandt at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 13:34:47 2012
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:34:47 -0400
Subject: Calligra office suite: first impressions.
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I will definitely install and check this out.

However, of the 12 Linux systems IT 4 of those are used in nonprofit groups
and 2 are small biz. They all create documents that are shared to others in
their groups that do not use Linux. If there is no word compatibility there
is no real chance they would be interested in it. Anyone know if this is
going to be addressed?
On Apr 14, 2012 2:08 AM, "Waleed Hamra" <kubuntu-users at whamra.com> wrote:

> On 04/13/2012 04:52 PM, Bas Roufs - message in English wrote:
> > Hello Everybody
> >
> > Via this mail I would like to give compliments to the developers  of the
> new
> > KDE office suite "Calligra". Today, I installed it in Kubuntu 11.10 via
> the
> > regular ppa backport repository. I really love it immediately! It looks
> like a
> > very adequate toolkit for creative and artistic word processing, sheet
> > calculations, presentations, etc.
> >
> > Of course, there are still a few rough edges to deal with in the further
> > development of Calligra. When observing them, I will share them via this
> forum
> > - of course, in a constructive way.
> >
> > Today, I have experimented a bit with the word processor as wel as with
> "Brain
> > Dump".
> >
> > In the word procesor, I found two major points of attention so far.
> >
> > I have looked for a possibility for export to .doc, .docx, pdf and other
> > formats. So far, I only found a way to export to PDF: File > export to
> PDF.
> > For the other formats, I have looked under FILE > save as and FILE >
> export. I
> > did not find it there. I will keep using LibreOffice next to Calligra
> until this
> > essential feature will be available.
> >
> > In LibreOffice, there is a effective way to establish the
> > basic styles and formatting, like the default font: FORMAT > styles and
> > formatting (F11).  Is there something similar in Calligra?
> >
> > With respect to "Braindump": is this meant for mind mapping? I am
> wondering
> > whether two closely interrelated mind mapping projects also could be
> > integrated somehow in the Calligra family:
> > "Freeplane" (http://freeplane.sourceforge.net);
> > "Docear", http://www.docear.org/
> > The combination of Freeplane, Docear, Braindump and all other Calligra
> > packages could create together a very powerful mind mapping, creativity
> > boosting tool box.
> >
> >
> > Finally, I am looking for a widget for the panel: for launching all the
> > Calligra applications. Another good option could be a widget for ALL the
> office
> > applications. Now, when copying the office typing machine symbol to the
> panel, I
> > get a duplicate of the K-launcher, however, with the typing machine
> symbol.
> >
> > Here, my first reflection on Calligra finishes.
> > Respectfully yours,
> > Bas Roufs.
> >
>
> very interesting, will probably install and try it out in the next few
> days. you mentioned that export to some MS formats isn't supported, or
> implemented, yet. what about import from these formats? does it exist?
> is it reliable?
> as far as i'm concerned here, PDF is all i need to share my writings,
> but the troublesome part is reading the MS files other people send to me.
> hopefully, if usable enough, calligra will have a new tester and bug
> reporter, to help them get better. i mean really, i don't care much
> about lack of features, incosistency, or the sort, as long as the
> product is usable enough, i'll help its developers make it better :)
>
> 2 hours of aptitude left to get the suite...
>
>
> --
> Waleed K. Hamra
> Manager of Hamra Information Systems
>
>
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 19:38:20 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:38:20 +0200
Subject: Calligra office suite: first impressions.
In-Reply-To: <4F8913ED.6050404@whamra.com>
References: <2465132.1sqTuRLgjK@viaconsensus-travel>
	<4F8913ED.6050404@whamra.com>
Message-ID: <1564639.OXQcCQcVT8@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello Waleed and Dale

> very interesting, will probably install and try it out in the next few
> days. you mentioned that export to some MS formats isn't supported, or
> implemented, yet. what about import from these formats? does it exist?
> is it reliable?

So far, import seems to goe flawlessly. It is strange - good import 
possibilities, but only very limited export ones. 
In case you feel unsure, you can also consider using eg. LibreOffice for import 
and export purposes. Both LibreOffice and Calligra have "Open Document Formats" 
(ODF) as native formats. In general, nothing will block you from using both 
LibreOffice and Calligra, until the latter suite will have a more complete 
functionality. 

> as far as i'm concerned here, PDF is all i need to share my writings,
> but the troublesome part is reading the MS files other people send to me.
> hopefully, if usable enough, calligra will have a new tester and bug
> reporter, to help them get better. i mean really, i don't care much
> about lack of features, incosistency, or the sort, as long as the
> product is usable enough,
As I said above, import goes well in both LibreOffice and Calligra. 
I never have problems reading MS documents people send to me.
As long as Calligra is still in the development stage, you can use LibreOffice 
for the functions that do not or not yet work in Calligra.

> i'll help its developers make it better :)
We all need to do so!

> I will definitely install and check this out.
It's really worth trying it.
 
> However, of the 12 Linux systems IT 4 of those are used in nonprofit groups
> and 2 are small biz. They all create documents that are shared to others in
> their groups that do not use Linux. If there is no word compatibility there
> is no real chance they would be interested in it. Anyone know if this is
> going to be addressed?

Wholeheartedly I agree with you. I already started to bring the issue: see Bug 
298115 at bugs.kde.org. However, this is not enough. That's why I also bring 
up the issue at this forum and at "Kubuntu developers". In the mean time, I 
keep using LibreOffice alongside Kaligra until the latter office suite will have 
complete import and export facilities.

Respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs. 

-- 
Bas G. Roufs MA
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
Tel. +31 30 785 40
Websites in construction:
BasRoufs.eu 
Viaconsensus.nl 
RainbowGathering.eu 
Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 11.10. 
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From samorris at netspace.net.au  Sat Apr 14 23:25:41 2012
From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Steve Morris)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:25:41 +1000
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
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On 08/04/12 21:56, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
> dear sir,
>       when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk 
> space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so 
> in future we not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by 
> home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.
> rajuramvani.
>
>
Hi,
     If we assume you only have one partition for Kubuntu, you could 
check the /tmp and /home/%userid%/tmp directories to see how much space 
is used in those and delete the contents, which may or may not release a 
fair amount of disk space. Linux is like windows, by default it doesn't 
clear temp directories, although having said this some distributions 
allocate /temp to a ram disk to simulate emptying at shutdown. If your 
Kubuntu is doing this there should be an entry in /etc/fstab assigning 
/tmp to tempfs.

regards,
Steve

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From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Sun Apr 15 00:20:26 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:20:26 +0300
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <4F8A0775.1050907@netspace.net.au>
References: <CAET=m5H-7dQBp1PVXQ8hHi97s5UWow51x2Oj82W2Ob_AT0zmfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F8A0775.1050907@netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <4F8A144A.7020404@whamra.com>

On 04/15/2012 02:25 AM, Steve Morris wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08/04/12 21:56, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
>> dear sir,
>>       when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk
>> space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so
>> in future we not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by
>> home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.
>> rajuramvani.
>>
>>
> Hi,
>     If we assume you only have one partition for Kubuntu, you could
> check the /tmp and /home/%userid%/tmp directories to see how much space
> is used in those and delete the contents, which may or may not release a
> fair amount of disk space. Linux is like windows, by default it doesn't
> clear temp directories, although having said this some distributions
> allocate /temp to a ram disk to simulate emptying at shutdown. If your
> Kubuntu is doing this there should be an entry in /etc/fstab assigning
> /tmp to tempfs.
> 
> regards,
> Steve
> 

on the contrary, /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf would tell you otherwise,
the /tmp directory is deleted on every boot, regardless of mount type :)

as for OP, it would be greatly helpful if you would type the following
command in a terminal, and tell us the output:

df -h

that is assuming you do read this list, which i'm starting to doubt :\


-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems

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From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org  Sun Apr 15 07:21:48 2012
From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:21:48 -0700
Subject: Upgrade Trail
Message-ID: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>

Howdy;

I'm using 10.04 at the moment.  Which of the newer distro's
is the long term support one?

Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,
or do I have to go through each intervening one to get to
the wanted distro?

Thanks in advance.

Bill




From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 07:26:11 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:26:11 -0400
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
Message-ID: <CA+N=Xid9NnwYD=ZX0rin1owpGn65ttYNYf2a2OfotazvBrAUJQ@mail.gmail.com>

The next long term support version is 12.04, coming out in a few weeks. I'm
pretty sure you can't upgrade directly from 10.04. If you have a separate
home directory you can do a clean install without losing any data, but you
will need to reinstall all applications.

Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
On Apr 15, 2012 3:06 AM, "Bill Vance" <kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org> wrote:

> Howdy;
>
> I'm using 10.04 at the moment.  Which of the newer distro's
> is the long term support one?
>
> Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,
> or do I have to go through each intervening one to get to
> the wanted distro?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 07:36:08 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:36:08 +0200
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <CA+N=Xid9NnwYD=ZX0rin1owpGn65ttYNYf2a2OfotazvBrAUJQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
	<CA+N=Xid9NnwYD=ZX0rin1owpGn65ttYNYf2a2OfotazvBrAUJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F8A7A68.60105@gmail.com>

On 15/04/12 09:26, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote:
> The next long term support version is 12.04, coming out in a few weeks.
> I'm pretty sure you can't upgrade directly from 10.04. If you have a
> separate home directory you can do a clean install without losing any
> data, but you will need to reinstall all applications.
>
> Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
>
> On Apr 15, 2012 3:06 AM, "Bill Vance" <kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org
> <mailto:kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org>> wrote:
>
>     Howdy;
>
>     I'm using 10.04 at the moment.  Which of the newer distro's
>     is the long term support one?
>
>     Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,
>     or do I have to go through each intervening one to get to
>     the wanted distro?
>
As noted, next LTS is 12.04 end of April. Upgrade methods will be 
published at the time, I am sure.

However, at least in my experience, something always goes belly up 
during upgrade whether it is due to bad internet or the complexity of 
the whole procedure or whatever.

I would backup all my data and make a clean sweep install instead. If 
you have a separate /home partition you are then ready to go, if not you 
have to restore your data. And then of course reinstall your favorite 
software.



From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr 15 08:02:54 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:02:54 +0200
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
Message-ID: <201204151002.54305.kassube@gmx.net>

Bill Vance wrote:
> I'm using 10.04 at the moment.  Which of the newer distro's
> is the long term support one?

12.04 - it will be available at the end of this month.

> Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,

Yes. Here are the upgrade instructions (for the current beta version, I 
suppose it will be updated after release): 
<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS>

> or do I have to go through each intervening one to get to
> the wanted distro?

No. LTS -> LTS upgrades are direct upgrades. But as always, something 
can go wrong depending on your installed packages. Therefore make 
backups of your important data before you upgrade.


Nils



From ejazzkatt at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 11:32:42 2012
From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (eric jackson)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 07:32:42 -0400
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <201204151002.54305.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
	<201204151002.54305.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4F8AB1DA.1050207@gmail.com>

On 04/15/2012 04:02 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Bill Vance wrote:
>> I'm using 10.04 at the moment.  Which of the newer distro's
>> is the long term support one?
> 12.04 - it will be available at the end of this month.
>
>> Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,
> Yes. Here are the upgrade instructions (for the current beta version, I
> suppose it will be updated after release):
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS>

I tried following those instructions yesterday and they didn't work for 
me. It did upgrade to 10.10  but not to 12.4 LTS.







>
>> or do I have to go through each intervening one to get to
>> the wanted distro?
> No. LTS ->  LTS upgrades are direct upgrades. But as always, something
> can go wrong depending on your installed packages. Therefore make
> backups of your important data before you upgrade.
>
>
> Nils
>




From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 11:57:54 2012
From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 07:57:54 -0400
Subject: [11.10] - WINE 1.5 PPA ?
Message-ID: <4F8AB7C2.2040608@GMail.com>

Hi,

Can someone tell me the PPA for WINE 1.5 ?
Thanks!

Jesse



From dave at thefletchers.net  Sun Apr 15 12:37:46 2012
From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:37:46 +0100
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
Message-ID: <1334493466.2043.9.camel@boss>

On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 00:21 -0700, Bill Vance wrote:

> Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,
> or do I have to go through each intervening one to get to
> the wanted distro?
> 

For some years my strategy has been:-

Hard drives are cheap so there's no harm in having a spare one on the
shelf.

So, take a backup of everything that's needed, swap to the spare drive,
do a complete wipe and fresh install, restore the backed up data to the
new installation.

The drive containing the old OS version then goes onto the shelf as the
spare. It still holds everything from before the upgrade so if you find
you missed something important, it's not a disaster.

If you install a hard drive caddy system the drive swap operation
becomes trivial, although the fans in these can be ultra cheap rubbish
so be prepared to replace them with better ones.

Dave





From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun Apr 15 13:08:04 2012
From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:08:04 +0100
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <mailman.103.1334491228.10518.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.103.1334491228.10518.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4F8AC834.2080601@blueyonder.co.uk>

On 15/04/12 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
  Today's Topics: 1. Re: how to improve home disk space (Waleed Hamra) 
---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:20:26 +0300 From: Waleed Hamra 
<kubuntu-users at whamra.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: 
Re: how to improve home disk space Message-ID: 
<4F8A144A.7020404 at whamra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1" On 04/15/2012 02:25 AM, Steve Morris wrote:
>>
>> On 08/04/12 21:56, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
>>> dear sir,
>>>        when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk
>>> space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so
>>> in future we not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by
>>> home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.
>>> rajuramvani.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi,
>>      If we assume you only have one partition for Kubuntu, you could
>> check the /tmp and /home/%userid%/tmp directories to see how much space
>> is used in those and delete the contents, which may or may not release a
>> fair amount of disk space. Linux is like windows, by default it doesn't
>> clear temp directories, although having said this some distributions
>> allocate /temp to a ram disk to simulate emptying at shutdown. If your
>> Kubuntu is doing this there should be an entry in /etc/fstab assigning
>> /tmp to tempfs.
>>
>> regards,
>> Steve
>>
> on the contrary, /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf would tell you otherwise,
> the /tmp directory is deleted on every boot, regardless of mount type :)
>
> as for OP, it would be greatly helpful if you would type the following
> command in a terminal, and tell us the output:
>
> df -h
>
> that is assuming you do read this list, which i'm starting to doubt :\
>
In the days of small disks I could see the need for separate hard drives 
and partitions for the likes of /home, /usr etc.

With the availability of large hard drives it seemed pointless and even 
Solaris went away from the practice and assigned just / and swap.

I have a small /boot partition on some systems dating back to when you 
needed to boot from sectors below 1024 and on some just / and swap.
If I do a fresh install and I need to reformat / I'll tar up /home and 
save it for restoration later. Sometimes doing a fresh install without 
reformatting on systems that are way too downlevel to successfully 
upgrade also leaves /home unaffected.

My setups are normally just / and swap.

If I do an upgrade /home remains untouched.

Some have said that there could be a problem if something bad happens to 
/ but over many years the only time that has happened was when bad 
on-board IDE controllers wrote garbage all over the HD which meant that 
/home was also affected. This happened with at least 3 motherboards 
going back more than 12 years.

I once questioned some friends why they did separate /home, /usr, etc. 
partitions effectively implementing small disks out a large disk and 
they couldn't answer. On their systems when they ran out of space on 
/home meant they had to create symlinks like crazy with
"mkdir /xxx", "ln -s /xxx /home/user/xxx" to overcome the problem caused 
by slicing and dicing.
Regards
Sid.

-- 
Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks




From isak.enstrom at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 13:23:09 2012
From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isak_Enstr=C3=B6m?=)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:23:09 +0200
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <4F8AC834.2080601@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <mailman.103.1334491228.10518.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<4F8AC834.2080601@blueyonder.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAMc4Yw8s7J8yiOzm_c4FLut-FcmiWHJYz50FvvriR3CE1pp=kQ@mail.gmail.com>

Den 15 april 2012 15:08 skrev Sid Boyce <sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk>:

> On 15/04/12 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.**ubuntu.com<kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com>wrote:
>
>  Today's Topics: 1. Re: how to improve home disk space (Waleed Hamra)
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**----------
> Message: 1 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:20:26 +0300 From: Waleed Hamra <
> kubuntu-users at whamra.com> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re:
> how to improve home disk space Message-ID: <4F8A144A.7020404 at whamra.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 04/15/2012 02:25 AM,
> Steve Morris wrote:
>
>>
>>> On 08/04/12 21:56, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
>>>
>>>> dear sir,
>>>>       when i upgrade any programme the massage is desplaying (disk
>>>> space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve disk space so
>>>> in future we not want this type massage. i know the we can do this by
>>>> home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody can help me.
>>>> rajuramvani.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>     If we assume you only have one partition for Kubuntu, you could
>>> check the /tmp and /home/%userid%/tmp directories to see how much space
>>> is used in those and delete the contents, which may or may not release a
>>> fair amount of disk space. Linux is like windows, by default it doesn't
>>> clear temp directories, although having said this some distributions
>>> allocate /temp to a ram disk to simulate emptying at shutdown. If your
>>> Kubuntu is doing this there should be an entry in /etc/fstab assigning
>>> /tmp to tempfs.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>  on the contrary, /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf would tell you otherwise,
>> the /tmp directory is deleted on every boot, regardless of mount type :)
>>
>> as for OP, it would be greatly helpful if you would type the following
>> command in a terminal, and tell us the output:
>>
>> df -h
>>
>> that is assuming you do read this list, which i'm starting to doubt :\
>>
>>  In the days of small disks I could see the need for separate hard drives
> and partitions for the likes of /home, /usr etc.
>
> With the availability of large hard drives it seemed pointless and even
> Solaris went away from the practice and assigned just / and swap.
>
> I have a small /boot partition on some systems dating back to when you
> needed to boot from sectors below 1024 and on some just / and swap.
> If I do a fresh install and I need to reformat / I'll tar up /home and
> save it for restoration later. Sometimes doing a fresh install without
> reformatting on systems that are way too downlevel to successfully upgrade
> also leaves /home unaffected.
>
> My setups are normally just / and swap.
>
> If I do an upgrade /home remains untouched.
>
> Some have said that there could be a problem if something bad happens to /
> but over many years the only time that has happened was when bad on-board
> IDE controllers wrote garbage all over the HD which meant that /home was
> also affected. This happened with at least 3 motherboards going back more
> than 12 years.
>
> I once questioned some friends why they did separate /home, /usr, etc.
> partitions effectively implementing small disks out a large disk and they
> couldn't answer. On their systems when they ran out of space on /home meant
> they had to create symlinks like crazy with
> "mkdir /xxx", "ln -s /xxx /home/user/xxx" to overcome the problem caused
> by slicing and dicing.
> Regards
> Sid.
>
> --
> Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
> Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
> Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
> Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
>
>
>
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Having /home on a separate partition is good in case you need to reinstall
or upgrade. / doesn't have to be more than 15 GB in most cases, so it's not
like the /home partition will run out of space unless the HDD is really
small.

~~
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From it at sca-uk.com  Sun Apr 15 13:39:59 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:39:59 -0300
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
Message-ID: <8781A2F068FB4C41AC15F787D273AD78@SACWS001>

Hi Bill,

I agree with the others here, upgrades are not good.

1) They are amazingly slow - my last attempt was over 24 hours!
2) After this long wait something has gone wrong.

But I can do a rebuild in 2-3 hours including backup and restore of data.
And it's largely unattended.

As someone else suggested, I keep a second disk, actually in the same
cabinet, and I do regular backups to it so that I can anyway restore easily
whatever happens.

I also have an install script (./install.sh). Part of which is shown in my
PS.  The full script is quite long, like 4 pages to print out.

But the whole thing is quite painless.

Regards

Steve.

PS - ./install.sh

#!/bin/bash

#
# Update sources for ubuntu apt repository to main repository.  Some local
respositories don't have everything
# (eg using kpackagekit, set server to 'main'
# Whie you're doing this manually intensive stuff, also configure cpan and
set prepend requirements to yes.
# I have backed up the ubunto apt repsitory to a stored file.  Thes two
lines take a backup and restore from stored version.
# cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
# cp
/media/7ec5fbfe-19e4-4d78-9a7a-c38b1f1c61f9/installation/Install_Scripts/sou
rces.list /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update

apt-get -y autoremove 
apt-get -y upgrade 

#Development environment.
apt-get -y install subversion 
apt-get -y install cvs 
apt-get -y install g++ 
apt-get -y install gcc
#apt-get -y install python-wxglade 
#apt-get -y install padre 
apt-get -y install libgconf2-dev
apt-get -y install libgtk2.0-dev

#Perl environment
#apt-get -y install libwx-perl-processstream-perl 
#apt-get -y install libwx-perl-dialog-perl 
#apt-get -y install libwx-perl 

#Video enviroment
apt-get -y install ffmpeg 
apt-get -y install ffmpeg-doc 
apt-get -y install alsa-oss 
apt-get -y install faac 





From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr 15 15:39:15 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:39:15 +0200
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <4F8AB1DA.1050207@gmail.com>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
	<201204151002.54305.kassube@gmx.net> <4F8AB1DA.1050207@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204151739.15190.kassube@gmx.net>

eric jackson wrote:
> On 04/15/2012 04:02 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Yes. Here are the upgrade instructions (for the current beta
> > version, I suppose it will be updated after release):
> > <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS>
> 
> I tried following those instructions yesterday and they didn't work
> for me. It did upgrade to 10.10  but not to 12.4 LTS.

Strange! Being curious I tried it myself on a copy of my main system 
after I received your mail. It worked as described on the referenced 
page, i.e. I got 12.04. Did you perhaps omit the "-d" option at the end 
of the command? The "-d" is needed as it tells the program to upgrade to 
the development version. I think it would upgrade to the next released 
version otherwise which would have been 10.10 indeed.


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr 15 15:56:52 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:56:52 +0200
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <8781A2F068FB4C41AC15F787D273AD78@SACWS001>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
	<8781A2F068FB4C41AC15F787D273AD78@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <201204151756.52417.kassube@gmx.net>

Steve Cookson wrote:
> I agree with the others here, upgrades are not good.

I prefer upgrades - it saves a lot of time needed to install and 
configure all the applications as they were before the upgrade. I don't 
remember a really catastrophic upgrade. OTOH, I'm familiar enough with 
the system to overcome minor problems.

> 1) They are amazingly slow - my last attempt was over 24 hours!

That depends on your internet connection speed, amount of installed 
packages and machine speed. For me it was less than 2 hours + download 
time for about 2100 installed packages.

> But I can do a rebuild in 2-3 hours including backup and restore of
> data. And it's largely unattended.

Well, I would need several days to find all the packages I want to have 
on the machine and configure everything to my liking, so YMMV.


Nils



From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr 15 15:44:11 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:44:11 +0200
Subject: Upgrade Trail
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Message-ID: <201204151744.11542.kassube@gmx.net>

Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote:
> The next long term support version is 12.04, coming out in a few
> weeks. I'm pretty sure you can't upgrade directly from 10.04. If you
> have a separate home directory you can do a clean install without
> losing any data, but you will need to reinstall all applications.

You can also do a fresh install if you don't have a separate home 
partition. At the partitioning option use the manual partitioning and 
use the current root partition. Keep the file system type as it is and 
select not to format the partition. Then the installer will overwrite 
only the system directories but not /home (and maybe some others which I 
don't remember).


Nils



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Apr 15 16:19:22 2012
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:19:22 -0400
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <201204151756.52417.kassube@gmx.net>
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On Sunday, April 15, 2012 05:56:52 PM Nils Kassube wrote:
> Well, I would need several days to find all the packages I want to have 
> on the machine and configure everything to my liking, so YMMV.


Take a look at:

dpkg --get-selections

and:

dpkg --set-selections


I always do fresh installs and use the above to list the packages I had on the 
previous release and then install them with one command on the new release.

The one command needed  is to use  DSELECT  which will need to be installed on 
the new release as it doesn't come with the release.



From zekkerj at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 16:30:53 2012
From: zekkerj at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Queiroz?=)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:30:53 -0300
Subject: Upgrade Trail
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Em 15 de abril de 2012 08:32, eric jackson <ejazzkatt at gmail.com> escreveu:
> On 04/15/2012 04:02 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>
>> Bill Vance wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm using 10.04 at the moment.  Which of the newer distro's
>>> is the long term support one?
>>
>> 12.04 - it will be available at the end of this month.
>>
>>> Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,
>>
>> Yes. Here are the upgrade instructions (for the current beta version, I
>> suppose it will be updated after release):
>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS>
>
>
> I tried following those instructions yesterday and they didn't work for me.
> It did upgrade to 10.10  but not to 12.4 LTS.
>

It's because 12.04LTS is *not out yet*. If you had waited for it to
get out, by the end of april, you would do the right update.



From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr 15 16:36:33 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:36:33 +0200
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <4803184.NIpJopsMT9@linux1>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
	<201204151756.52417.kassube@gmx.net> <4803184.NIpJopsMT9@linux1>
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Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Sunday, April 15, 2012 05:56:52 PM Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Well, I would need several days to find all the packages I want to
> > have on the machine and configure everything to my liking, so
> > YMMV.
> 
> Take a look at:
> 
> dpkg --get-selections
> 
> and:
> 
> dpkg --set-selections

Good point. Does it work with packages which are missing or have 
different names on the new release?


Nils



From zekkerj at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 16:42:19 2012
From: zekkerj at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Queiroz?=)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:42:19 -0300
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <4F8AC834.2080601@blueyonder.co.uk>
References: <mailman.103.1334491228.10518.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
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Em 15 de abril de 2012 10:08, Sid Boyce <sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk> escreveu:
> In the days of small disks I could see the need for separate hard drives and
> partitions for the likes of /home, /usr etc.
>
> With the availability of large hard drives it seemed pointless and even
> Solaris went away from the practice and assigned just / and swap.
>
> I have a small /boot partition on some systems dating back to when you
> needed to boot from sectors below 1024 and on some just / and swap.
> If I do a fresh install and I need to reformat / I'll tar up /home and save
> it for restoration later. Sometimes doing a fresh install without
> reformatting on systems that are way too downlevel to successfully upgrade
> also leaves /home unaffected.
>
> My setups are normally just / and swap.
>
> If I do an upgrade /home remains untouched.
>
> Some have said that there could be a problem if something bad happens to /
> but over many years the only time that has happened was when bad on-board
> IDE controllers wrote garbage all over the HD which meant that /home was
> also affected. This happened with at least 3 motherboards going back more
> than 12 years.
>
> I once questioned some friends why they did separate /home, /usr, etc.
> partitions effectively implementing small disks out a large disk and they
> couldn't answer. On their systems when they ran out of space on /home meant
> they had to create symlinks like crazy with
> "mkdir /xxx", "ln -s /xxx /home/user/xxx" to overcome the problem caused by
> slicing and dicing.
> Regards
> Sid.

You pointed yourself the cons of having a single partition: harder to
upgrade, higher risk of loosing data. And if you work with large files
(or lots of files), if you fill up your home partition, you'll have
your system partition out of space, and that will make updating your
system a lot harder.

As someone said before, there's no need for more that about 20GB for a
root partition. The rest of your 5TB solid-state disk can be reserved
for your home partition, if you wish.

I use to work with 4 or 5 partitions: root, /var, /home, swap, and
sometimes a /opt. This keeps me from filling up the root partition,
even when I'm testing some crazy web app that syslogs like hell.



From hakan at koseoglu.org  Sun Apr 15 16:48:21 2012
From: hakan at koseoglu.org (Hakan Koseoglu)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:48:21 +0100
Subject: how to improve home disk space
In-Reply-To: <CADeaZRxG_n7FSpkNptj-54M=E_es0YZgj5v_W6NBf=gqKOMeog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.103.1334491228.10518.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
	<4F8AC834.2080601@blueyonder.co.uk>
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2012/4/15 José Queiroz <zekkerj at gmail.com>:
> You pointed yourself the cons of having a single partition: harder to
> upgrade, higher risk of loosing data. And if you work with large files
> (or lots of files), if you fill up your home partition, you'll have
> your system partition out of space, and that will make updating your
> system a lot harder.
ext3 will set aside 5% of the free disk before reporting to
unprivileged processes that there's no space. This can be changed with
tune2fs. So no, filling up your userspace will not affect the rest of
the OS immediately. For a relatively ancient -  500GB disk, 5% is
25GB, more than enough for any recovery.
For people who want to live on the edge or want to use the full disk
capacity for non-OS purposes, this value can be changed with tune2fs
-m.



From bmarsh at bmarsh.com  Sun Apr 15 17:05:49 2012
From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:05:49 -0400
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <201204151836.33706.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
	<4803184.NIpJopsMT9@linux1> <201204151836.33706.kassube@gmx.net>
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On Sunday, April 15, 2012 06:36:33 PM Nils Kassube wrote:
> Bruce Marshall wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 15, 2012 05:56:52 PM Nils Kassube wrote:
> > > Well, I would need several days to find all the packages I want to
> > > have on the machine and configure everything to my liking, so
> > > YMMV.
> > 
> > Take a look at:
> > 
> > dpkg --get-selections
> > 
> > and:
> > 
> > dpkg --set-selections
> 
> Good point. Does it work with packages which are missing or have
> different names on the new release?

Probably not but I've never had any big problems.....  but look over the 
install list from dselect carefully,  I have seen it uninstall kde-desktop and 
a lot of other kde stuff but never went in to find out why.




From kassube at gmx.net  Sun Apr 15 17:39:45 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 19:39:45 +0200
Subject: [11.10] - WINE 1.5 PPA ?
In-Reply-To: <4F8AB7C2.2040608@GMail.com>
References: <4F8AB7C2.2040608@GMail.com>
Message-ID: <201204151939.45770.kassube@gmx.net>

Jesse Palser wrote:
> Can someone tell me the PPA for WINE 1.5 ?

Try <http://www.bing.com/search?q=wine+1.5+ppa>. Among the first 
results: <https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa>.


Nils



From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun Apr 15 18:29:26 2012
From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 19:29:26 +0100
Subject: how to improve home disk space
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On 15/04/12 14:23, Isak Enström wrote:
> Den 15 april 2012 15:08 skrev Sid Boyce <sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk 
> <mailto:sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk>>:
>
>     On 15/04/12 13:00, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com
>     <mailto:kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>     Â Today's Topics: 1. Re: how to improve home disk space (Waleed
>     Hamra)
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Message: 1 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:20:26 +0300 From: Waleed
>     Hamra <kubuntu-users at whamra.com <mailto:kubuntu-users at whamra.com>>
>     To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>     <mailto:kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: how to
>     improve home disk space Message-ID: <4F8A144A.7020404 at whamra.com
>     <mailto:4F8A144A.7020404 at whamra.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>     charset="iso-8859-1" On 04/15/2012 02:25 AM, Steve Morris wrote:
>
>
>             On 08/04/12 21:56, Rajubhai Ramvani wrote:
>
>                 dear sir,
>                 Â  Â  Â  when i upgrade any programme the massage is
>                 desplaying (disk
>                 space full) or (low disk space). so how can we improve
>                 disk space so
>                 in future we not want this type massage. i know the we
>                 can do this by
>                 home folder empty.but what is proper solution.anybody
>                 can help me.
>                 rajuramvani.
>
>
>             Hi,
>             Â  Â  If we assume you only have one partition for
>             Kubuntu, you could
>             check the /tmp and /home/%userid%/tmp directories to see
>             how much space
>             is used in those and delete the contents, which may or may
>             not release a
>             fair amount of disk space. Linux is like windows, by
>             default it doesn't
>             clear temp directories, although having said this some
>             distributions
>             allocate /temp to a ram disk to simulate emptying at
>             shutdown. If your
>             Kubuntu is doing this there should be an entry in
>             /etc/fstab assigning
>             /tmp to tempfs.
>
>             regards,
>             Steve
>
>         on the contrary, /etc/init/mounted-tmp.conf would tell you
>         otherwise,
>         the /tmp directory is deleted on every boot, regardless of
>         mount type :)
>
>         as for OP, it would be greatly helpful if you would type the
>         following
>         command in a terminal, and tell us the output:
>
>         df -h
>
>         that is assuming you do read this list, which i'm starting to
>         doubt :\
>
>     In the days of small disks I could see the need for separate hard
>     drives and partitions for the likes of /home, /usr etc.
>
>     With the availability of large hard drives it seemed pointless and
>     even Solaris went away from the practice and assigned just / and swap.
>
>     I have a small /boot partition on some systems dating back to when
>     you needed to boot from sectors below 1024 and on some just / and
>     swap.
>     If I do a fresh install and I need to reformat / I'll tar up /home
>     and save it for restoration later. Sometimes doing a fresh install
>     without reformatting on systems that are way too downlevel to
>     successfully upgrade also leaves /home unaffected.
>
>     My setups are normally just / and swap.
>
>     If I do an upgrade /home remains untouched.
>
>     Some have said that there could be a problem if something bad
>     happens to / but over many years the only time that has happened
>     was when bad on-board IDE controllers wrote garbage all over the
>     HD which meant that /home was also affected. This happened with at
>     least 3 motherboards going back more than 12 years.
>
>     I once questioned some friends why they did separate /home, /usr,
>     etc. partitions effectively implementing small disks out a large
>     disk and they couldn't answer. On their systems when they ran out
>     of space on /home meant they had to create symlinks like crazy with
>     "mkdir /xxx", "ln -s /xxx /home/user/xxx" to overcome the problem
>     caused by slicing and dicing.
>     Regards
>     Sid.
>
>     -- 
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>     Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
>     Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
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>
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>
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>
> Having /home on a separate partition is good in case you need to 
> reinstall or upgrade. / doesn't have to be more than 15 GB in most 
> cases, so it's not like the /home partition will run out of space 
> unless the HDD is really small.
>
> ~~
> Isak
> __
> Powered by Ubuntu -Â www.ubuntu.com <http://www.ubuntu.com/>
>
Or unless you don't do much or keep much.
On this box 1TB drive for / and a 500GB drive for backups.
 > du -sh /home
42G     /home
 > du -sh .thunderbird
18G     .thunderbird

On another box with two 2TB HD's.
# du -sh /home
277G     /home

You can see how difficult it would be to guage the length of the piece 
of string for /home. Who know what they will require in a year's time.

As you can see using even 30GB for /home would be useless on my boxes.
Regards
Sid.

-- 
Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 21:04:36 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:04:36 +0200
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into Akonadi
	Googledata?
In-Reply-To: <201112051940.37452.anders@alweb.dk>
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Message-ID: <1505102.g0dr8NHq0T@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello Everybody,

At present, I am working with KDE 4.8.2. along with Kubuntu 11.10. 
I do manage now to sync with the google calendar and address book via Akonadi 
Googledata. However, I still do not manage to import a local calendar into the 
one of Google - in spite of several months of research at the internet and at 
a few forums.

Below, I summarise what I have been doing so far in this context.

Of course, I make backups of my ical files all the time. 

In K-Menu > System, I have changed settings in  "personal information": 
especially in the akonadi configuration module. There, I have added the 
birthday and the google calendar resource. Aditionally, I have removed there 
all the other resources, including the one of the "personal calendar" - 
however, without deleting it's ical file. Then, I tried to import that file into 
the Akonadi Googledata calendar via Dolphin, via Konqueror and directly via 
Kontact > Calendar > File > Import > Import calendar. So far, none of those 
methods have been effective! When importing an .ics file directly into Google, 
only the events get through: not the tasks.


Be so kind to provide me with your suggestions and thoughts. Thanks, 
respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs.

.
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From rjlapham at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 21:15:47 2012
From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:15:47 -0400
Subject: how to improve home disk space
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On Sunday, April 15, 2012 09:08:04 AM Sid Boyce wrote:

> I once questioned some friends why they did separate /home, /usr, etc. 
> partitions effectively implementing small disks out a large disk and 
> they couldn't answer.

I break up my 500GB disk into several 20 GB / partitions for various 
distributions and versions.  I have a large /DATA partition which cab be 
accessed by any of them.  I'm even able to put Mail on the DATA partition 
using sym links if I do it very carefully.

	-Jerry
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH  45050
rjlapham at gmail.com
=============================================
Wear tank tops.  Support the right to bare arms.



From nicafyl at gmail.com  Sun Apr 15 23:45:39 2012
From: nicafyl at gmail.com (Phil Hughes)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:45:39 -0600
Subject: 12.04 getting better
Message-ID: <CAAu-d+nH0w=sdnFwQh1UUaB2zGk3MR82xe2AuRkOf49TNyvqVQ@mail.gmail.com>

The updates from about a week ago broke my WiFi card. That is now fixed.
Other issues I need to evaluate are:
  * The kernel at least from Beta 2 required PAE. My T42 laptop is my
favorite and it is pre-PAE. It makes no sense to me that the default for a
kernel called "386" requires an instruction that didn't appear until the
Centrino.
  * The combination of Dolphin, an NFS-mounted filesystem and sleep have
not worked for years. I am sick of complaining about it. I will check to
see if it is fixed but I am not hopeful.

Otherwise, 12.04 is looking pretty good. Not as good as KDE 3.5 as far as
the amount of added crap/overhead but we call that "progress".


-- 
Phil Hughes
nicafyl at gmail.com
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From ejazzkatt at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 00:04:15 2012
From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (eric jackson)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:04:15 -0400
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <201204151739.15190.kassube@gmx.net>
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On 04/15/2012 11:39 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
> eric jackson wrote:
>> On 04/15/2012 04:02 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> Yes. Here are the upgrade instructions (for the current beta
>>> version, I suppose it will be updated after release):
>>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS>
>> I tried following those instructions yesterday and they didn't work
>> for me. It did upgrade to 10.10  but not to 12.4 LTS.
> Strange! Being curious I tried it myself on a copy of my main system
> after I received your mail. It worked as described on the referenced
> page, i.e. I got 12.04. Did you perhaps omit the "-d" option at the end
> of the command? The "-d" is needed as it tells the program to upgrade to
> the development version. I think it would upgrade to the next released
> version otherwise which would have been 10.10 indeed.

The best I can say is that I think I included the -d.

Eric


>
>
> Nils
>




From ejazzkatt at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 00:11:42 2012
From: ejazzkatt at gmail.com (eric jackson)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:11:42 -0400
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <CADeaZRwwaz81uEA47JNM87p9-P7_SfEhb12j-vu8Nk37ZVttKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 04/15/2012 12:30 PM, José Queiroz wrote:
> Em 15 de abril de 2012 08:32, eric jackson<ejazzkatt at gmail.com>  escreveu:
>> On 04/15/2012 04:02 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> Bill Vance wrote:
>>>> I'm using 10.04 at the moment.  Which of the newer distro's
>>>> is the long term support one?
>>> 12.04 - it will be available at the end of this month.
>>>
>>>> Using apt-get/synaptic/et al, is there a direct path there,
>>> Yes. Here are the upgrade instructions (for the current beta version, I
>>> suppose it will be updated after release):
>>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu/10.04LTS>
>>
>> I tried following those instructions yesterday and they didn't work for me.
>> It did upgrade to 10.10  but not to 12.4 LTS.
>>
> It's because 12.04LTS is *not out yet*. If you had waited for it to
> get out, by the end of april, you would do the right update.

No, that's not the reason. Somebody else said that it worked for them. 
It gave them the beta version which is available.

Eric


>




From kassube at gmx.net  Mon Apr 16 05:34:13 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 07:34:13 +0200
Subject: 12.04 getting better
In-Reply-To: <CAAu-d+nH0w=sdnFwQh1UUaB2zGk3MR82xe2AuRkOf49TNyvqVQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu-d+nH0w=sdnFwQh1UUaB2zGk3MR82xe2AuRkOf49TNyvqVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204160734.13228.kassube@gmx.net>

Phil Hughes wrote:
> The updates from about a week ago broke my WiFi card. That is now
> fixed. Other issues I need to evaluate are:
>   * The kernel at least from Beta 2 required PAE. My T42 laptop is my
> favorite and it is pre-PAE. It makes no sense to me that the default
> for a kernel called "386" requires an instruction that didn't appear
> until the Centrino.

Agreed, the 386 name for the kernel is a joke. Some time ago I found out
that you can do a network install for a machine without PAE. Boot from
the mini ISO [1] and then install directly from the internet. It is
"only" a text installer but at least it works with older machines.

>   * The combination of Dolphin, an NFS-mounted filesystem and sleep
> have not worked for years. I am sick of complaining about it. I will
> check to see if it is fixed but I am not hopeful.

You could try konqueror instead of dolphin - I never had problems with
nfs and konqueror.

> Otherwise, 12.04 is looking pretty good. Not as good as KDE 3.5 as
> far as the amount of added crap/overhead but we call that
> "progress".

Well, you forgot to mention the state of kmail2 which isn't ready for
production IMHO. OTOH if you were using 11.10 before, you are already
familiar with this "inconvenience".


Nils

[1] <http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/mini.iso>



From stvrly at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 07:07:22 2012
From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:07:22 -0700
Subject: Upgrade Trail
In-Reply-To: <8781A2F068FB4C41AC15F787D273AD78@SACWS001>
References: <20120415072147.GA30066@xpresso.seaslug.org>
	<8781A2F068FB4C41AC15F787D273AD78@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <1883700.sxZTJAQoU3@x1>

On 2012-04-15 10:39:59 Steve Cookson <it at sca-uk.com> wrote:
> 
> I also have an install script (./install.sh). Part of which is shown in my
> PS.  The full script is quite long, like 4 pages to print out.

Hey, would you mind sharing your script, maybe put it on Pastebin and then 
provide the URL?

I'm always interested in how people tinker with their machines.

I've documented my manual steps in a post on the Kubuntu Forum, 
http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?56552. I do need to make an update 
to this, as I've switched Phonon's backend from GStreamer to VLC.

...Steve




From basroufs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 10:14:12 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:14:12 +0200
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into the
	Akonadi Googledata calendar?
In-Reply-To: <201112051940.37452.anders@alweb.dk>
References: <201112051613.31558.BasRoufs@gmail.com>
	<201112051940.37452.anders@alweb.dk>
Message-ID: <1810907.eshyQZvfXH@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello Everybody,

At present, I am working with KDE 4.8.2. along with Kubuntu 11.10. 
I do manage now to sync with the google calendar and address book via Akonadi 
Googledata. However, I still do not manage to import a local calendar into the 
one of Google - in spite of several months of research at the internet and at 
a few forums.

Below, I summarise what I have been doing so far in this context.

Of course, I make backups of my ical files all the time. 

In K-Menu > System, I have changed settings in  "personal information": 
especially in the akonadi configuration module. There, I have added the 
birthday and the google calendar resource. Aditionally, I have removed there 
all the other resources, including the one of the "personal calendar" - 
however, without deleting it's ical file. Then, I tried to import that file into 
the Akonadi Googledata calendar via Dolphin, via Konqueror and directly via 
Kontact > Calendar > File > Import > Import calendar. So far, none of those 
methods have been effective! 

When importing an .ics file directly into Google, only the events get through: 
not the tasks.


Be so kind to provide me with your suggestions and thoughts. Thanks, 
respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs.

.
-- 
Bas G. Roufs MA
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
Tel. +31 30 785 40
Websites in construction:
BasRoufs.eu 
Viaconsensus.nl 
RainbowGathering.eu 
Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 11.10. 
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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 13:18:13 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:18:13 +1000
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
Message-ID: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a use 
case for them ...

One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the java 
ide eclipse. Unfortunately it  doesn't seem to respect the activity start or 
stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around it?
-- 
Lindsay



From mdhirsch at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 21:15:22 2012
From: mdhirsch at gmail.com (Michael Hirsch)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:15:22 -0600
Subject: Resolution stays at 800x600 in Kubuntu
In-Reply-To: <BLU163-W17364CC997B36EC15BCAE2CC350@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU163-W48B862BC13557794E0A8C5CC370@phx.gbl>
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Dennis Linux <frankie-1 at hotmail.nl> wrote:

>  Hello Buzzmabndt,
>
> It's a Asus Ati Radeon 9250 AGP.
>

Dennis,

You probably need the ATI drivers to be installed.  The easiest way is to
use "jockey".  Run "sudo jockey-kde"  at a sheel prompt and follow the
instructions to get your ATI drivers installed.

Michael
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From anj.tuesday at gmx.net  Mon Apr 16 21:42:19 2012
From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:42:19 +0200
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>

On Mo, 2012-04-16 at 23:18 +1000, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a use 
> case for them ...
> 
> One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the java 
> ide eclipse. Unfortunately it  doesn't seem to respect the activity start or 
> stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around it?
> -- 
> Lindsay

Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular, 
I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I 
can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.

Anja




From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 16 21:59:36 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:59:36 +1000
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>
Message-ID: <3289193.T4Q5q45ffb@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular, 
> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I 
> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.

Yah, I've just discovered the same problem with rekonq too (9.1), stopping the 
activity leaves a innaccessible phantom rekonq running. Start the activity and 
there it is, instantly.

Most disappointing.
-- 
Lindsay



From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Tue Apr 17 00:55:37 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 03:55:37 +0300
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <3289193.T4Q5q45ffb@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>
	<3289193.T4Q5q45ffb@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <4F8CBF89.6050406@whamra.com>

On 04/17/2012 12:59 AM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
>> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular, 
>> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I 
>> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
> 
> Yah, I've just discovered the same problem with rekonq too (9.1), stopping the 
> activity leaves a innaccessible phantom rekonq running. Start the activity and 
> there it is, instantly.
> 
> Most disappointing.

phantom programs? which KDE are you using?
phantom programs were a problem in KDE for a while now (well,
technically it's Qt's fault, not KDE), but i believe the latest 4.8.2
has solved the problem.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469

-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems

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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 01:47:48 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:47:48 -0500
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
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References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>
Message-ID: <7E9372B6-5FCC-4741-9756-849971C6DC63@gmail.com>

I actually would also like an answer to this. God holds all answers!

In Christ,
Ryan

"For God so loved the world in this way: He gave His one and only Son, do that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16 HCSB

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Anj Tuesday <anj.tuesday at gmx.net> wrote:

> On Mo, 2012-04-16 at 23:18 +1000, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
>> Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a use 
>> case for them ...
>> 
>> One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the java 
>> ide eclipse. Unfortunately it  doesn't seem to respect the activity start or 
>> stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around it?
>> -- 
>> Lindsay
> 
> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular, 
> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I 
> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
> 
> Anja
> 
> 
> -- 
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users



From clay at claydoh.com  Tue Apr 17 02:42:08 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:42:08 -0400
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>
Message-ID: <1382642.q152spnvEu@lark-latitude-d630>

On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> On Mo, 2012-04-16 at 23:18 +1000, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> > Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a
> > use case for them ...
> > 
> > One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the
> > java ide eclipse. Unfortunately it  doesn't seem to respect the activity
> > start or stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around
> > it?
> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular,
> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I
> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
> 
> Anja

Oddly, Chrome and Chromuim are the only applications that do not get along 
with activities for me.
-- 
clay



From rterry at pacific.net.au  Tue Apr 17 04:42:47 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:42:47 +1000
Subject: Postgresql question
Message-ID: <201204171442.47416.rterry@pacific.net.au>

This may be a bit "off list" so apologies.

I run various flavours of kubuntu - my personal laptop is "stuck" on Kubuntu 9 
running quite happy and is also my developement env for  my gambas/postgresql 
8.4 app

I need to install the contrib package for 8.4 and apt-get dosn't find it. I 
wonder if its possible to just locate that package and download and install 
manually. Did a quick search on the net but havn't figured where to find it.

Thanks for any advice.

richard



From clay at claydoh.com  Tue Apr 17 04:58:49 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 00:58:49 -0400
Subject: Postgresql question
In-Reply-To: <201204171442.47416.rterry@pacific.net.au>
References: <201204171442.47416.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <2046323.zdybEdQJQX@lark-latitude-d630>



On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 02:42:47 PM rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
> This may be a bit "off list" so apologies.
> 
> I run various flavours of kubuntu - my personal laptop is "stuck" on Kubuntu
> 9 running quite happy and is also my developement env for  my
> gambas/postgresql 8.4 app
> 
> I need to install the contrib package for 8.4 and apt-get dosn't find it. I
> wonder if its possible to just locate that package and download and install
> manually. Did a quick search on the net but havn't figured where to find it.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> richard

Which Kubuntu again? 9.04 or 9.10?

packages.ubuntu.com is your best bet.

-- 
clay



From rterry at pacific.net.au  Tue Apr 17 05:03:00 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:03:00 +1000
Subject: Postgresql question
In-Reply-To: <201204171442.47416.rterry@pacific.net.au>
References: <201204171442.47416.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <201204171503.00785.rterry@pacific.net.au>

On Tuesday 17 April 2012 14:42:47 rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
> This may be a bit "off list" so apologies.
> 
> I run various flavours of kubuntu - my personal laptop is "stuck" on
>  Kubuntu 9 running quite happy and is also my developement env for  my
>  gambas/postgresql 8.4 app
> 
> I need to install the contrib package for 8.4 and apt-get dosn't find it. I
> wonder if its possible to just locate that package and download and install
> manually. Did a quick search on the net but havn't figured where to find
>  it.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> richard
> 

To answer my own question, after refining my search, I've put these into my 
sources.list and touch wood, seems to work - I've updated and now installed 
the contrib package.

Regards

Richard

deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main universe multiverse 
restricted

deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main universe 
multiverse restricted

deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-backports main restricted 
universe multiverse

deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-security main universe 
multiverse restricted



From anj.tuesday at gmx.net  Tue Apr 17 08:19:44 2012
From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:19:44 +0200
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <4F8CBF89.6050406@whamra.com>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<1334612539.5116.3.camel@earthworm>
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On Di, 2012-04-17 at 03:55 +0300, Waleed Hamra wrote:
> On 04/17/2012 12:59 AM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> >> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular, 
> >> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I 
> >> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
> > 
> > Yah, I've just discovered the same problem with rekonq too (9.1), stopping the 
> > activity leaves a innaccessible phantom rekonq running. Start the activity and 
> > there it is, instantly.
> > 
> > Most disappointing.
> 
> phantom programs? which KDE are you using?
> phantom programs were a problem in KDE for a while now (well,
> technically it's Qt's fault, not KDE), but i believe the latest 4.8.2
> has solved the problem.
> 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
> 
I think I have the same problem. But it's sort of the opposite of the
bug you linked. Stop (not just leave -- stop) an activity, and the
applications running on it keep running. Any process viewer will show
them alive and well, but they're invisible to the task bar (even if 
said task bar is configured to show windows from all activities). 

Actually, this has now stopped happening and been replaced by a
task bar twitching crazily with task items moving around at 
some fast, computery speed. Fun :D

ANja 





From buzzmandt at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 13:09:22 2012
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:09:22 -0400
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
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Oh the suspense is  killing me...... ;)
On Apr 12, 2012 1:50 PM, "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/04/12 17:40, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>
>> On 11 April 2012 16:27, Myriam Schweingruber<myriam at kubuntu.**org<myriam at kubuntu.org>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> I fear it is not as easy as that: Kubuntu is a registered trademark of
>>> Canonical Ltd. as the footer of the website tells. So we might not
>>> have much of a choice there...
>>>
>>> IANAL, so somebody with more insight should tell us more about that.
>>> Jonathan maybe?
>>>
>>
>> Canonical owns the trademark on Kubuntu.  They give a generous licence
>> intended to encourage community use but now with other companies
>> interested in sponsoring it I'm in discussions to see if Canonical are
>> happy for the name to be used by other supporters.  If they aren't
>> we'll need to change it.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>  Thanks for the heads-up Jonathan! Read some suggested names here if it
> comes to that but clearly most commentators are happy to be Kubuntu in the
> future too.
>
> I still like Stellar (one of my suggestions) - kind of classy, quality and
> shiny. To me, that is.
>
> Sinclair
>
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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 13:36:43 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:36:43 -0600
Subject: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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References: <4F85A0ED.10807@gmail.com> <201204131701.58255.kassube@gmx.net>
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Waleed Hamra said the following at 04/13/2012 11:35 AM :

> 
> well i can think of 2 possibilities for this situation.
> checking mountall, it seems to accept the "--verbose" parameter, but i
> am not sure if that has the desired effect.
> if you look into /etc/init/mountall.conf, there's an exec line that
> contains the mountall command, with few parameters, add --verbose to the
> end of the command, and see if that bring satisfying verbosity, if not,
> you can safely remove the parameter.
> the other option is not as straightforward, but certainly much easier
> than hacking source code. rename /sbin/fsck into /sbin/fsck.orig
> 
> sudo mv -v /sbin/fsck{,.orig}
> 
> then create a script that calls it with the C parameter, so the script
> can be:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> fsck.orig $@ -C 0
> 
> the only complication i see here, is that it may not be fsck that is
> called, but rather a specialized fsck.ext3 or fsck.ext4, in which case,
> you'll need to do a similar replacement to each of them.
> in a standard system, you're supposed to call fsck, and let it decide
> which specialized helper to call, along with the parameters passed to
> it, but you never know.
> 

Thank you. Both good ideas. I'll try them as soon as the system in question
is sufficiently lightly used to allow me to reboot it.

It's still amazing to me that one has to jump through so many hoops (or,
indeed, any hoops at all) to obtain this behaviour. I can't imagine why
someone thought it was a good idea to remove this visual feedback ... now
one is faced with a computer and a hard drive that's on for tens of
minutes, with no idea at all how much longer the reboot is likely to take.

  Doc

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From rterry at pacific.net.au  Wed Apr 18 01:29:11 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:29:11 +1000
Subject: Kde Beta 2 ?bugs
Message-ID: <201204181129.11182.rterry@pacific.net.au>

A couple of things I've noticed with the beta2

- the computer dosn't shut down properly
- trying to add an entry with kmenuedit, one puts in the entry > dosn't appear 
on the menu - this I find annoying.


Regards

richard




From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 03:56:19 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:56:19 +1000
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <1334650784.3905.4.camel@earthworm>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
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Message-ID: <10191056.8ltKz7ZZEe@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

Have done a bit of experimenting and in the process have come to quite 
appreciate activities and they will be a lot better once apps behave better 
under them *and* panels respect them.

I've found konqueror to be quite good - with it I can:

- Start it in two different activities with a different set of tabs open in 
each

- stopping one activity still leaves a konqueror process running, as you woudl 
expect.

- stopping both activites stops the konq process.

- No matter which order I stop/start the actitivies, konqueror opens up in the 
same position with the right set of tabs per its parent activity (ie. a 
different set for each activities).

This is pretty much how I would expect an app to work with activities, for 
example I have:

Comics Activity 
 - konq up with half a dozen tabs open to different online comics

Dev Activitiy
- Konq opens to a few online references
- Konsole
- Eclipse (does not stop though)

Games Activity
- KPatience
- A bunch of short cuts to my favourite games

rekonq ufortunately seems to open a random set of saved tabs per activity, I 
guess its not activity aware.

I'd *really* like to have different panels per activity but unfortunately its 
not yet possible.

-- 
Lindsay



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 04:14:45 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:14:45 +1000
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <4F8CBF89.6050406@whamra.com>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<3289193.T4Q5q45ffb@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<4F8CBF89.6050406@whamra.com>
Message-ID: <2574063.lkL72lpPnP@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 03:55:37 AM Waleed Hamra wrote:
> phantom programs? which KDE are you using?
> phantom programs were a problem in KDE for a while now (well,
> technically it's Qt's fault, not KDE), but i believe the latest 4.8.2
> has solved the problem.
> 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469

No, not that problem. I meant I close the Activity and rekonq vanishes with 
the activity - isn't visible in any taskbar. But its still actually running, a 
'ps -a|grep rekonq' show it still in the process list.

I done a bit more testing and the problem seems inconsistent, sometimes rekonq 
did close. Also sometimes rekonq was still in the process list even after 
manually closing it.

So I suspect the problem is with rekonq rather than activities.
-- 
Lindsay



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 05:23:31 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:23:31 +1000
Subject: Activities and non KDE Apps
In-Reply-To: <10191056.8ltKz7ZZEe@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <70243333.6xWrXCYJYd@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<1334650784.3905.4.camel@earthworm>
	<10191056.8ltKz7ZZEe@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <8048720.7AdR1Wa7Do@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:56:19 PM you wrote:
> Have done a bit of experimenting and in the process have come to quite
> appreciate activities and they will be a lot better once apps behave better
> under them *and* panels respect them.

I'll add that adding the Activity Bar in a auto hide centered panel is really 
useful too - makes seeing and switching Activities much better.



-- 
Lindsay



From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 12:56:46 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - Nederlandstalige boodschap)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:56:46 +0200
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into the
	Akonadi Googledata calendar?
In-Reply-To: <201112051940.37452.anders@alweb.dk>
References: <201112051613.31558.BasRoufs@gmail.com>
	<201112051940.37452.anders@alweb.dk>
Message-ID: <1381115.ItDFkssH3z@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello Everybody,

At present, I am working with KDE 4.8.2. along with Kubuntu 11.10. 
I do manage now to sync with the google calendar and address book via Akonadi 
Googledata. However, I still do not manage to import a local calendar into the 
one of Google - in spite of several months of research at the internet and at 
a few forums.

Below, I summarise what I have been doing so far in this context.

Of course, I make backups of my ical files all the time. 

In K-Menu > System, I have changed settings in  "personal information": 
especially in the akonadi configuration module. There, I have added the 
birthday and the google calendar resource. Aditionally, I have removed there 
all the other resources, including the one of the "personal calendar" - 
however, without deleting it's ical file. Then, I tried to import that file into 
the Akonadi Googledata calendar via Dolphin, via Konqueror and directly via 
Kontact > Calendar > File > Import > Import calendar. So far, none of those 
methods have been effective! 

When importing an .ics file directly into Google, only the events get through: 
not the tasks.


Be so kind to provide me with your suggestions and thoughts. Thanks, 
respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs.

.
-- 
Bas G. Roufs MA
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
Tel. +31 30 785 40
Websites in construction:
BasRoufs.eu 
Viaconsensus.nl 
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From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Wed Apr 18 14:50:51 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:50:51 +0300
Subject: offline uncorrectable (bad) sectors
Message-ID: <4F8ED4CB.2000808@whamra.com>

i have a few of them on one of my hard drives, and they're not
increasing, which is a relief. but i would like to know how to deal with
them? how can i get the system to stop attempting to write (or read)
into them? on NTFS drives, running chkdsk -R would mark them bad, and
never write to them again, but no idea how to achieve that in linux, and
it seems kubuntu is insisting to use them every few days, which gets the
SMART daemon's irk, and mails me warnings.
any help appreciated, thanks.

-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems

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From theuteck at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 15:11:14 2012
From: theuteck at gmail.com (uteck)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:11:14 -0500
Subject: offline uncorrectable (bad) sectors
In-Reply-To: <4F8ED4CB.2000808@whamra.com>
References: <4F8ED4CB.2000808@whamra.com>
Message-ID: <CAHBX56=y8_AEGFd3=4uyWWdaAXhWJCZycicEmjHHftoSUdVgpw@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a howto for Linux for mark bad sectors:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/37659/the-beginners-guide-to-linux-disk-utilities/
 Scroll down to the Bad Blocks section near the end.


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Waleed Hamra <kubuntu-users at whamra.com> wrote:
> i have a few of them on one of my hard drives, and they're not
> increasing, which is a relief. but i would like to know how to deal with
> them? how can i get the system to stop attempting to write (or read)
> into them? on NTFS drives, running chkdsk -R would mark them bad, and
> never write to them again, but no idea how to achieve that in linux, and
> it seems kubuntu is insisting to use them every few days, which gets the
> SMART daemon's irk, and mails me warnings.
> any help appreciated, thanks.
>
> --
> Waleed K. Hamra
> Manager of Hamra Information Systems
>
>
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From womanthinker at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 15:13:33 2012
From: womanthinker at gmail.com (Katelyn)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:13:33 -0500
Subject: kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 87, Issue 32
In-Reply-To: <mailman.194.1334750444.8191.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.194.1334750444.8191.kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <CAPNNnKA6OnF8wKi1NorwKUgvD0V5ZPnVJnufa=VVynTOdtZtvA@mail.gmail.com>

If someone can PLEASE tell me how to get the games on www.pogo.com to work
I would REALLY appreciate it. Ever since I updated Kubuntu, I can't get
them to play. I have java installed and I know I need shockwave but don't
know that I can use on packages. I am fairly new to this system so if you
have a solution, PLEASE explain in detail what and how to install and use
it.
I love kubuntu and don't want to go back to windows(UCK), but I really miss
playing on pogo.
Thanks.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:00 AM, <kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com>wrote:

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>   1. Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself (Dale Trombley)
>   2. Re: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck? (D. R. Evans)
>   3. Kde Beta 2 ?bugs (rterry at pacific.net.au)
>   4. Re: Activities and non KDE Apps (Lindsay Mathieson)
>   5. Re: Activities and non KDE Apps (Lindsay Mathieson)
>   6. Re: Activities and non KDE Apps (Lindsay Mathieson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 09:09:22 -0400
> From: Dale Trombley <buzzmandt at gmail.com>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Oh the suspense is  killing me...... ;)
> On Apr 12, 2012 1:50 PM, "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 12/04/12 17:40, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> >
> >> On 11 April 2012 16:27, Myriam Schweingruber<myriam at kubuntu.**org<
> myriam at kubuntu.org>>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I fear it is not as easy as that: Kubuntu is a registered trademark of
> >>> Canonical Ltd. as the footer of the website tells. So we might not
> >>> have much of a choice there...
> >>>
> >>> IANAL, so somebody with more insight should tell us more about that.
> >>> Jonathan maybe?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Canonical owns the trademark on Kubuntu.  They give a generous licence
> >> intended to encourage community use but now with other companies
> >> interested in sponsoring it I'm in discussions to see if Canonical are
> >> happy for the name to be used by other supporters.  If they aren't
> >> we'll need to change it.
> >>
> >> Jonathan
> >>
> >>  Thanks for the heads-up Jonathan! Read some suggested names here if it
> > comes to that but clearly most commentators are happy to be Kubuntu in
> the
> > future too.
> >
> > I still like Stellar (one of my suggestions) - kind of classy, quality
> and
> > shiny. To me, that is.
> >
> > Sinclair
> >
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> Subject: Re: oneiric: progress status during boot-time fsck?
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> Waleed Hamra said the following at 04/13/2012 11:35 AM :
>
> >
> > well i can think of 2 possibilities for this situation.
> > checking mountall, it seems to accept the "--verbose" parameter, but i
> > am not sure if that has the desired effect.
> > if you look into /etc/init/mountall.conf, there's an exec line that
> > contains the mountall command, with few parameters, add --verbose to the
> > end of the command, and see if that bring satisfying verbosity, if not,
> > you can safely remove the parameter.
> > the other option is not as straightforward, but certainly much easier
> > than hacking source code. rename /sbin/fsck into /sbin/fsck.orig
> >
> > sudo mv -v /sbin/fsck{,.orig}
> >
> > then create a script that calls it with the C parameter, so the script
> > can be:
> >
> > #!/bin/bash
> > fsck.orig $@ -C 0
> >
> > the only complication i see here, is that it may not be fsck that is
> > called, but rather a specialized fsck.ext3 or fsck.ext4, in which case,
> > you'll need to do a similar replacement to each of them.
> > in a standard system, you're supposed to call fsck, and let it decide
> > which specialized helper to call, along with the parameters passed to
> > it, but you never know.
> >
>
> Thank you. Both good ideas. I'll try them as soon as the system in question
> is sufficiently lightly used to allow me to reboot it.
>
> It's still amazing to me that one has to jump through so many hoops (or,
> indeed, any hoops at all) to obtain this behaviour. I can't imagine why
> someone thought it was a good idea to remove this visual feedback ... now
> one is faced with a computer and a hard drive that's on for tens of
> minutes, with no idea at all how much longer the reboot is likely to take.
>
>  Doc
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> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:29:11 +1000
> From: rterry at pacific.net.au
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Kde Beta 2 ?bugs
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> A couple of things I've noticed with the beta2
>
> - the computer dosn't shut down properly
> - trying to add an entry with kmenuedit, one puts in the entry > dosn't
> appear
> on the menu - this I find annoying.
>
>
> Regards
>
> richard
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:56:19 +1000
> From: Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Activities and non KDE Apps
> Message-ID: <10191056.8ltKz7ZZEe at lindsay-kubuntu-12>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Have done a bit of experimenting and in the process have come to quite
> appreciate activities and they will be a lot better once apps behave better
> under them *and* panels respect them.
>
> I've found konqueror to be quite good - with it I can:
>
> - Start it in two different activities with a different set of tabs open in
> each
>
> - stopping one activity still leaves a konqueror process running, as you
> woudl
> expect.
>
> - stopping both activites stops the konq process.
>
> - No matter which order I stop/start the actitivies, konqueror opens up in
> the
> same position with the right set of tabs per its parent activity (ie. a
> different set for each activities).
>
> This is pretty much how I would expect an app to work with activities, for
> example I have:
>
> Comics Activity
>  - konq up with half a dozen tabs open to different online comics
>
> Dev Activitiy
> - Konq opens to a few online references
> - Konsole
> - Eclipse (does not stop though)
>
> Games Activity
> - KPatience
> - A bunch of short cuts to my favourite games
>
> rekonq ufortunately seems to open a random set of saved tabs per activity,
> I
> guess its not activity aware.
>
> I'd *really* like to have different panels per activity but unfortunately
> its
> not yet possible.
>
> --
> Lindsay
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:14:45 +1000
> From: Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com>
> To: Waleed Hamra <kubuntu-users at whamra.com>,    Kubuntu user technical
>        support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Activities and non KDE Apps
> Message-ID: <2574063.lkL72lpPnP at lindsay-kubuntu-12>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 03:55:37 AM Waleed Hamra wrote:
> > phantom programs? which KDE are you using?
> > phantom programs were a problem in KDE for a while now (well,
> > technically it's Qt's fault, not KDE), but i believe the latest 4.8.2
> > has solved the problem.
> >
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
>
> No, not that problem. I meant I close the Activity and rekonq vanishes with
> the activity - isn't visible in any taskbar. But its still actually
> running, a
> 'ps -a|grep rekonq' show it still in the process list.
>
> I done a bit more testing and the problem seems inconsistent, sometimes
> rekonq
> did close. Also sometimes rekonq was still in the process list even after
> manually closing it.
>
> So I suspect the problem is with rekonq rather than activities.
> --
> Lindsay
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:23:31 +1000
> From: Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com>
> To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Activities and non KDE Apps
> Message-ID: <8048720.7AdR1Wa7Do at lindsay-kubuntu-12>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:56:19 PM you wrote:
> > Have done a bit of experimenting and in the process have come to quite
> > appreciate activities and they will be a lot better once apps behave
> better
> > under them *and* panels respect them.
>
> I'll add that adding the Activity Bar in a auto hide centered panel is
> really
> useful too - makes seeing and switching Activities much better.
>
>
>
> --
> Lindsay
>
>
>
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From clay at claydoh.com  Wed Apr 18 18:21:20 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:21:20 -0400
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into the
	Akonadi Googledata calendar?
In-Reply-To: <1381115.ItDFkssH3z@viaconsensus-travel>
References: <201112051613.31558.BasRoufs@gmail.com>
	<201112051940.37452.anders@alweb.dk>
	<1381115.ItDFkssH3z@viaconsensus-travel>
Message-ID: <2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 02:56:46 PM Bas Roufs - Nederlandstalige 
boodschap wrote:
> 
> Hello Everybody,
> 
> At present, I am working with KDE 4.8.2. along with Kubuntu 11.10. 
> I do manage now to sync with the google calendar and address book via 
Akonadi Googledata. However, I still do not manage to import a local calendar 
into the one of Google - in spite of several months of research at the 
internet and at a few forums.
> 
> Below, I summarise what I have been doing so far in this context.
> 
> Of course, I make backups of my ical files all the time. 
> 
> In K-Menu > System, I have changed settings in  "personal information": 
especially in the akonadi configuration module. There, I have added the 
birthday and the google calendar resource. Aditionally, I have removed there 
all the other resources, including the one of the "personal calendar" - 
however, without deleting it's ical file. Then, I tried to import that file into 
the Akonadi Googledata calendar via Dolphin, via Konqueror and directly via 
Kontact > Calendar > File > Import > Import calendar. So far, none of those 
methods have been effective! 
> 
> When importing an .ics file directly into Google, only the events get 
through: not the tasks.
> 
> 
> Be so kind to provide me with your suggestions and thoughts. Thanks, 
respectfully yours,
> Bas Roufs.
> 
> .
> -- 
> Bas G. Roufs MA
> Van 't Hoffstraat 1
> NL-3514 VT Utrecht
> The Netherlands
> E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
> Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
> Tel. +31 30 785 40
> Websites in construction:
> BasRoufs.eu 
> Viaconsensus.nl 
> RainbowGathering.eu 
> Open source OS: Linux Kubuntu 11.10. 

The existing akonadi-googledata is fairly busted and unamintained.
A new akonadi resource has recently been released 
http://www.progdan.cz/category/akonadi-google/
It is not yet in Precise, but there is a testing package here:
https://launchpad.net/~acelankao/+archive/kde
as well as in other ppa repos

You don't have to remove any existing google resources, and once installed you 
add a new resource called "Google Calendar and Tasks"

One small caveat I have found is that it will error if you try to use the 
parent "<username>@gmail.com" instead of a sub-category when selecting a 
calnedar to use when creating a new entry. Other wise, it is syncing my 
testing events and to-do items  well.


-- 
Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net
http://ubuntumaine.org
http://emacdogsports.com 



From clay at claydoh.com  Wed Apr 18 20:13:35 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:13:35 -0400
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into the
	Akonadi Googledata calendar?
In-Reply-To: <2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>
References: <201112051613.31558.BasRoufs@gmail.com>
	<1381115.ItDFkssH3z@viaconsensus-travel>
	<2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>
Message-ID: <1866903.TTsvIz0Tvl@lark-latitude-d630>

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 02:21:20 PM Clay Weber wrote:

> 
> The existing akonadi-googledata is fairly busted and unamintained.
> A new akonadi resource has recently been released
> http://www.progdan.cz/category/akonadi-google/
> It is not yet in Precise, but there is a testing package here:
> https://launchpad.net/~acelankao/+archive/kde
> as well as in other ppa repos
> 
> You don't have to remove any existing google resources, and once installed
> you add a new resource called "Google Calendar and Tasks"
> 
> One small caveat I have found is that it will error if you try to use the
> parent "<username>@gmail.com" instead of a sub-category when selecting a
> calnedar to use when creating a new entry. Other wise, it is syncing my
> testing events and to-do items  well.
Oops, I forgot to clarify that there is an Oneiric 11.10 package there as 
well.

-- 
clay



From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 20:19:16 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:19:16 +0200
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into the
	Akonadi Googledata calendar?
In-Reply-To: <2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>
References: <201112051613.31558.BasRoufs@gmail.com>
	<201112051940.37452.anders@alweb.dk>
	<1381115.ItDFkssH3z@viaconsensus-travel>
	<2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>
Message-ID: <CAFjF8ZnX52tiCmZsGNWSQHQWzJ--zFFqReqNGCG=_eNozDpuwg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for your feedback so far.

>
> The existing akonadi-googledata is fairly busted and unamintained.
> A new akonadi resource has recently been released
> http://www.progdan.cz/category/akonadi-google/
> It is not yet in Precise, but there is a testing package here:
> https://launchpad.net/~acelankao/+archive/kde<https://launchpad.net/%7Eacelankao/+archive/kde>
> as well as in other ppa repos
>

In the mean time, I did manage to install this new resource via the PPA
indicated above.



>
> You don't have to remove any existing google resources,


Now I have two Akonadi calendar resources running next to one another - the
old one and the new one. They do not merge. But when I check/ activate the
new one, nothing happens so far. What best to do?



> and once installed you
> add a new resource called "Google Calendar and Tasks"
>

I have done so.

>
> One small caveat I have found is that it will error if you try to use the
> parent "<username>@gmail.com" instead of a sub-category when selecting a
> calnedar to use when creating a new entry.


 How can I make sure to use such a "sub-category"?

> Other wise, it is syncing my
> testing events and to-do items  well.
>

Events still show up via the old Google calendar resource as well as via
some local calendar.
The whole to-do list is at the local calendar.
I still do not manage to import that local calendar into the google one.

In the mean time, Clay, I see a new message from you coming in. I take a
look at it now.
Respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs.





>
>
> --
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>
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NL-3514 VT Utrecht

The Netherlands

E. BasRoufs at gmail.com

Mob. +31 6 446 835 10

Tel. +31 30 785 40

Open source OS: Kubuntu <http://www.kubuntu.org/> 11.10.

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From basroufs at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 20:20:51 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs)
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:20:51 +0200
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into the
	Akonadi Googledata calendar?
In-Reply-To: <1866903.TTsvIz0Tvl@lark-latitude-d630>
References: <201112051613.31558.BasRoufs@gmail.com>
	<1381115.ItDFkssH3z@viaconsensus-travel>
	<2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>
	<1866903.TTsvIz0Tvl@lark-latitude-d630>
Message-ID: <CAFjF8ZmFEk9G-=jC98Pxp50SGBbYbt5GspR-CaRhOuBp9NVbbw@mail.gmail.com>

> Oops, I forgot to clarify that there is an Oneiric 11.10 package there as
> well.
>

I already found and installed that one.
Bas.--

====================

Bas G. Roufs MA

Van 't Hoffstraat 1

NL-3514 VT Utrecht

The Netherlands

E. BasRoufs at gmail.com

Mob. +31 6 446 835 10

Tel. +31 30 785 40

Open source OS: Kubuntu <http://www.kubuntu.org/> 11.10.

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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 18 23:02:40 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:02:40 +1000
Subject: Kontact in Kubuntu 11.10: how to import a local calendar into the
	Akonadi Googledata calendar?
In-Reply-To: <2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>
References: <201112051613.31558.BasRoufs@gmail.com>
	<1381115.ItDFkssH3z@viaconsensus-travel>
	<2479074.Y6Cu4Gx3Om@lark-latitude-d630>
Message-ID: <1420524.xMxWuZCceh@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 02:21:20 PM Clay Weber wrote:
> One small caveat I have found is that it will error if you try to use the 
> parent "<username>@gmail.com" instead of a sub-category when selecting a 
> calnedar to use when creating a new entry. Other wise, it is syncing my 
> testing events and to-do items  well.

Thanks Clay, I think I might have been doing that. Will test furthur.
-- 
Lindsay



From a.mani.cms at gmail.com  Thu Apr 19 16:43:51 2012
From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:13:51 +0530
Subject: Kubuntu future and the name itself
In-Reply-To: <CANX=XXP8bfb=4A6HYs_cBZHt6WM8R8VH4QYbUpXA-sJAzLTxMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4F8554A5.7080600@gmail.com> <201204111204.29598.kassube@gmx.net>
	<4F855A7E.3060900@gmail.com>
	<CAPQHEAycG93v=O_FeG1Pn5epgoEEN_LVb2mCPFcF7ZapcUPRpQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGzoOB-zi6eBmbg5eS-N9OJN=-2=GVgctSiqF22Zckkx=mPibg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CANX=XXP8bfb=4A6HYs_cBZHt6WM8R8VH4QYbUpXA-sJAzLTxMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADDQFRtXtn77j-o3VBmcWKsRwTWaGxG3pr3gwi+8dJ4tbZhYxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Jonathan Riddell <jriddell at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Canonical owns the trademark on Kubuntu.  They give a generous licence
> intended to encourage community use but now with other companies
> interested in sponsoring it I'm in discussions to see if Canonical are
> happy for the name to be used by other supporters.  If they aren't
> we'll need to change it.
>


If it needs to changed, then my suggestions would be:

Kbien (bien as in francais)
Kubien


Best

A. Mani



-- 
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CU, ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS
http://www.logicamani.co.cc



From steve.cookson at sca-uk.com  Fri Apr 20 20:29:34 2012
From: steve.cookson at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:29:34 -0300
Subject: Gnomeprintui seems to have been largely abandoned.
Message-ID: <282551F2F4A8464ABF2C6F6785123E21@SACWS001>

Hi Guys,

Support for Gnomeprintui seems to have been largely abandoned as there seem
to be more and more assert-style errors every time I use it.

Apologies to any GnomePrint developers if my impression is wrong.

So what's the replacement?

Regards

Steve




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From: member at linkedin.com (Macario Valle via LinkedIn)
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:45:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Sun Apr 22 16:11:42 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:11:42 +0200
Subject: Still too much CPU consumption - especially when using Kontact.
Message-ID: <1528726.1y26pFjnjq@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello everybody

Today, I have been tweeking with a view to limiting the use of CPU by the 
system Kubuntu 11.10. I have followed most of the advises at the tutorial "How 
to make Kubuntu (KDE) blazing fast and optimise it for performance". 
See: http://bit.ly/tRJzap
This has helped to effectively deal with the worst CPU problems I have 
experienced recently. However, the consumption of CPU is still 60 up to and 
including 100% in certain situations - notably when syncing IMAP-folders in 
KMAIL/ Kontact. As a matter of consequence, it is very difficult to multitask 
with one or a few other packages, when doing so. At one of the two laptops I 
am working with, I even need to use some workarounds via the system activity 
monitor to get Kontact started at all: "killing" one or two processes, while 
prioritising others. 
Be so so kind to provide me with feedback and ideas to handle this problem.
Respectfully yours,
Bas Roufs. 



-- 
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
Tel. +31 30 785 40
Websites in construction:
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From gbonnema at xs4all.nl  Mon Apr 23 07:38:55 2012
From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:38:55 +0200
Subject: Still too much CPU consumption - especially when using Kontact.
In-Reply-To: <1528726.1y26pFjnjq@viaconsensus-travel>
References: <1528726.1y26pFjnjq@viaconsensus-travel>
Message-ID: <4F95070F.7060005@xs4all.nl>

On 22/04/12 18:11, Bas Roufs - message in English wrote:
>
> Hello everybody
>
> Today, I have been tweeking with a view to limiting the use of CPU by 
> the system Kubuntu 11.10. I have followed most of the advises at the 
> tutorial "How to make Kubuntu (KDE) blazing fast and optimise it for 
> performance".
>
> See: http://bit.ly/tRJzap
>
> This has helped to effectively deal with the worst CPU problems I have 
> experienced recently. However, the consumption of CPU is still 60 up 
> to and including 100% in certain situations - notably when syncing 
> IMAP-folders in KMAIL/ Kontact. As a matter of consequence, it is very 
> difficult to multitask with one or a few other packages, when doing 
> so. At one of the two laptops I am working with, I even need to use 
> some workarounds via the system activity monitor to get Kontact 
> started at all: "killing" one or two processes, while prioritising 
> others.
>
> Be so so kind to provide me with feedback and ideas to handle this 
> problem.
>
> Respectfully yours,
>
> Bas Roufs.
>
Hi bas,

This sounds very annoying. The system being non-responsive effective 
prevents you from working properly.
Did you try isolating the culprit in a cgroup? That way you can maximize 
the processor power it is allowed to use.
I didnt try it yet, but I plan to if I get problems like this.

Below a summary of what I read in the Dutch "Linux magazine" 2012-02. 
Hope it helps.
Remember to change names to your own situation.

mkdir -p /cgroup/cpu
mount -t cgroup -o cpu none /cgroup/cpu
(check with ls -l /cgroup/cpu it works, you should get something like:

root at mahatma:/# mkdir -p /cgroup/cpu
root at mahatma:/# mount -t cgroup -o cpu none /cgroup/cpu
root at mahatma:/# ls -l /cgroup/cpu
total 0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 cgroup.clone_children
--w--w--w- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 cgroup.event_control
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 cgroup.procs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 cpu.rt_period_us
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 cpu.rt_runtime_us
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 cpu.shares
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 notify_on_release
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 release_agent
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 05:24 tasks
root at mahatma:/# cat /cgroup/cpu/cpu.shares
1024

The 1024 is equal to 100% of your CPU. All processes in the file "tasks" 
share these 1024 cycles.

Now suppose you have a certain set of processes (or only one) that hog 
the cpu.
Then you create a new directory and direct these processes to that 
directory.
Only this time you maximize the number of cycles it is allowed to use.

First you create a subdirectory under CPU, this doubles the number of 
cycles to 2x1024. Then you limit the number of cycles by overwriting the 
cpu.shares file with a smaller number. Then you copy the processes that 
you want limited to the tasks file in the subdirectory.

 From that time on, these processes should be limited in CPU use to the 
shares you specified. I copied from my machine, but dont have any 
processes to put in tasks:

root at mahatma:/cgroup/cpu# mkdir vreters
root at mahatma:/cgroup/cpu# ls -l vreters/
total 0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 cgroup.clone_children
--w--w--w- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 cgroup.event_control
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 cgroup.procs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 cpu.rt_period_us
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 cpu.rt_runtime_us
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 cpu.shares
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 notify_on_release
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2012-04-23 09:27 tasks
root at mahatma:/cgroup/cpu# cd vreters
root at mahatma:/cgroup/cpu/vreters# cat cpu.shares
1024
root at mahatma:/cgroup/cpu/vreters# echo 256 > cpu.shares

Now you have 1024 + 256 cycles: about 20% for all processes in this 
tasks file. The tasks file is currently empty.
All you have to do is copy 199001 to tasks (if that is the process that 
is hogging the CPU): echo 19901 > tasks

 From then on, you should have a more responsive system. You can find 
out what is wrong with the process later.

I really hope this helps.

-- 
Kind regards, Guus Bonnema.
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From gkourtev at gmail.com  Mon Apr 23 09:27:15 2012
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:27:15 +0300
Subject: Restoring backup
Message-ID: <CAGPjBza=-OPCSe_S-CwsAkY0dCWabxEyK0yWgQf03OgUXtgG1g@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Friends,

Somehow I messed up from my system.  Thus, I decided to restore a backup
from a week ago that was suppose to be done by Nepomuk.  When I open it in
System setting, I see that the latest backup done is on April 12 (which is
fine). However when I press restore backups, it shows me 10 backups dated
last year!

Where are the files of this backup stored?  How can I solve this issue --
manually even?  Thanks,
gk
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 23 11:34:29 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - Nederlandstalige boodschap)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:34:29 +0200
Subject: Still too much CPU consumption - especially when using Kontact.
In-Reply-To: <4F95070F.7060005@xs4all.nl>
References: <1528726.1y26pFjnjq@viaconsensus-travel>
	<4F95070F.7060005@xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <15348936.ijloTDao7E@viaconsensus-travel>

Hallo Guus

Dank je wel, thank you very much, for your really useful and elaborate answer. 
One question remains for now. At the very end of your reply, you write:

>  Now you have 1024 + 256 cycles: about 20% for all processes in this   
>  tasks file. The tasks file is currently empty.>  
>     All you have to do is copy 199001 to tasks (if that is the process   
>     that is hogging the CPU): echo 19901 > tasks

When trying "echo 19901 >tasks", I got the following result:

root at Viaconsensus-travel:/cgroup/cpu/vreters# echo 19901 >tasks
bash: echo: write error: No such process

"echo 199001 >tasks" (with 1 zero more) delivered the same non-result.
That's why I am wondering how exactly to get to know which task is "hogging 
the CPU". 

>     
>     From then on, you should have a more responsive system. ...
>     I really hope this helps.

After getting a reply to the one question above, I will try out the last part 
of the solution you propose. In this  forum, I will briefly report the result.


>     You can find   
>     out what is wrong with the process later.
This is perfectly OK.
Respectfully yours,
Bas.





-- 
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Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
Nederland
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
M. +31 6 446 835 10
T. +31 30 785 20 40
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From basroufs at gmail.com  Mon Apr 23 13:57:49 2012
From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs - message in English)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:57:49 +0200
Subject: Still too much CPU consumption - especially when using Kontact.
In-Reply-To: <15348936.ijloTDao7E@viaconsensus-travel>
References: <1528726.1y26pFjnjq@viaconsensus-travel>
	<4F95070F.7060005@xs4all.nl>
	<15348936.ijloTDao7E@viaconsensus-travel>
Message-ID: <2333239.OvTHGIRZbz@viaconsensus-travel>

Hello Guus and Everybody Else


>  Now you have 1024 + 256 cycles: about 20% for all processes in this   
>  tasks file. The tasks file is currently empty.>  
>     All you have to do is copy 199001 to tasks (if that is the process   
>     that is hogging the CPU): echo 19901 > tasks

See: http://www.unixtutorial.org/commands/top/
Is this page relevant when trying to find out which task exactly to copy to the 
file "/cgroup/cpu/vreters/tasks"? (-/tasks is the extra file aimed handeling one 
of the CPU consuming processes.)

This is the upper part of the list of processes generated by the "top" 
command:


Is it PID 1826 or 1765 that I need to copy to the extra task file?

Respectfully yours,
Bas.
-- 
Bas G. Roufs MA
Van 't Hoffstraat 1
NL-3514 VT Utrecht
The Netherlands
E. BasRoufs at gmail.com
Mob. +31 6 446 835 10
Tel. +31 30 785 40
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From david.wonderly at kubuntu.org  Tue Apr 24 01:26:13 2012
From: david.wonderly at kubuntu.org (David Wonderly)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:26:13 -0700
Subject: Kubuntu Status Update
Message-ID: <1416493.9o4187DlS1@wing>

Greetings to the wonderful Kubuntu Community!

I just wanted to drop some updates so that you guys know what is going on. 
I've been seeing a lot of questions about the status and future of Kubuntu.

I wanted to take some time today and give you guys the updates and information 
we have so far. 

I'm not going to repost the same text that I have make from my blog, [1] 
reading it may answer some of the questions that you have. I will try and 
answer some of the common questions I have recieved so far.

Q: How will this effect the 12.04 LTS and other future LTS releases?
A: As of right now, it is not going to effect the 12.04 LTS. The Kubuntu 
Council [2] released a statement on the Kubuntu Website [3] to help assure 
everyone that 12.04 will be a 5 year LTS. We have no plans to stop providing 
LTS releases.

Q: Who is Blue Systems?
A: While the details of who is paying for Blue Systems is not widly known here 
is how it effects the Kubuntu Project. As mentioned in my post, we now have two 
developers who are being paid to work on KDE and in turn, Kubuntu full time. 
Part of the deal 
with Blue Systems is that Kubuntu will remain a Community Run project[4].

Q: Are we going to fork Kubuntu.
A: Simple answer, no. We will still remain the KDE flavor of Ubuntu.

Q: Okay, so if you are not forking, why is there talk about a name change?
A: The name change conversations stems from the Ubuntu TM policy. [5] There is 
a vision for the future of Kubuntu where the TM policies might constrain 
things we want to do with Kubuntu. We are working with Canonical to see what 
we can do and at the same time there are those of us int he Council and 
community who are preparing for a possible name change if it is needed.

If you have other questions, please, do not hesitate to email me or, talk to 
me in IRC. You can find me in #kubuntu-offtopic on the FreeNode network as 
Darkwing. You can either highlight me or, PM me and if I am not there, leave 
me your email address and I will do my best to get an answer to you. 

Thank you for staying with us as Kubuntu continues to grow. You are the reason 
why people have stepped forward to provide for the Kubuntu project. 

Please do not hesitate to contact me at any time.

Cheers!

David Wonderly
Kubuntu Council
IRC: Darkwing
Twitter: @dwonderly
E-Mail: david.wonderly at kubuntu.org


[1] http://www.wonderly.com/2012/04/kubuntu-moving-forward/
[2] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council
[3] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-lts-announce
[4] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-to-be-sponsored-by-blue-systems
[5] http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 01:19:38 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:19:38 +1000
Subject: Unable to wake from Sleep (suspend to Ram)
Message-ID: <2911310.g1OGH71BeU@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

I'm running 12.04 but probably not 12.04 specific - I've been trying to get 
sleep mode working for years with limited success. Basically I activate sleep 
mode (suspend to RAM) and that seems to work ok, everything switches off 
quickly. When I hit a key to wake up, the power light on the pc switches on, 
the hard drive seems to spin up, but the screen remains blank. Switching to 
console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) does not work. Power button off doesn't work.

Interestingly the reset button gives me a hung machine, I don't even see a 
POST. I have to powercycle to get a boot back.

Depending on the combination of settings I try, sometimes I get 3 beeps from 
the PC Speaker when attempting sleep.

I've tried:
- acpi_sleep=S3_bios
- acpi_sleep=S3_mode

Blacklisting intel_agp

Physically disconnecting my DVD drive - it seemed to be spinning up and down.

Uninstalling the NVidia driver and reverting to nouveau.

Switching to the Onboard Video (Intel i5 Gen2 - HD3000 I think).


System:
Intel i5 2500 (4 cores)
8 GB ram
Kubuntu 12.04 64 bit
Billion USB Wireless Adapter
logitech USB Keyboard and Mouse
LG Widesreen LCD

Any suggestions? 
-- 
Lindsay



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 04:36:31 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:36:31 +0200
Subject: Unable to wake from Sleep (suspend to Ram)
In-Reply-To: <2911310.g1OGH71BeU@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <2911310.g1OGH71BeU@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <4F977F4F.2030203@gmail.com>

On 25/04/12 03:19, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> I'm running 12.04 but probably not 12.04 specific - I've been trying to get
> sleep mode working for years with limited success. Basically I activate sleep
> mode (suspend to RAM) and that seems to work ok, everything switches off
> quickly. When I hit a key to wake up, the power light on the pc switches on,
> the hard drive seems to spin up, but the screen remains blank. Switching to
> console (Ctrl-Alt-F1) does not work. Power button off doesn't work.
>
> Interestingly the reset button gives me a hung machine, I don't even see a
> POST. I have to powercycle to get a boot back.
>
> Depending on the combination of settings I try, sometimes I get 3 beeps from
> the PC Speaker when attempting sleep.
>
> I've tried:
> - acpi_sleep=S3_bios
> - acpi_sleep=S3_mode
>
> Blacklisting intel_agp
>
> Physically disconnecting my DVD drive - it seemed to be spinning up and down.
>
> Uninstalling the NVidia driver and reverting to nouveau.
>
> Switching to the Onboard Video (Intel i5 Gen2 - HD3000 I think).
>
>
> System:
> Intel i5 2500 (4 cores)
> 8 GB ram
> Kubuntu 12.04 64 bit
> Billion USB Wireless Adapter
> logitech USB Keyboard and Mouse
> LG Widesreen LCD
>
> Any suggestions?
Check out tux-on-ice, there is a ppa with modified kernels for that. For 
me it works better than "vanilla" kernels

Sinclair



From rjlapham at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 20:21:01 2012
From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:21:01 -0400
Subject: plasma-desktop crashes KDE 4.74
Message-ID: <201204251621.01775.rjlapham@gmail.com>

I upgraded Kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and got a broken up screen when KDE started.  
After some messing around in terminal mode, it let me upgrade to 11.10, which 
was my orginal target.  When I boot 11.10, I get the following:

Application: Plasma Desktop Shell (plasma-desktop), signal: Segmentation fault

I searched for it on  https://bugs.kde.org and it identified it as  bug 
#285663, which was closed as a dupl of bug #280494, which was fixed.

It's obviously not fixed for me.  What do I do now (besides waiting for Kubuntu 
12.04 and installing it rather than upgrading)?

	-Jerry
=============================================
Jerry Lapham
Monroe, OH  45050
rjlapham at gmail.com
=============================================
Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church



From it at sca-uk.com  Thu Apr 26 01:34:34 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:34:34 -0300
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
Message-ID: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>

Hi Guys,

I just did a routine package upgrade and restarted (I recall it might have
been a KDE upgrade), and now it is stuck in a permanent boot screen.

Any ideas what might have happened and what I should do?

Regards

Steve

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From it at sca-uk.com  Thu Apr 26 01:45:03 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:45:03 -0300
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <0A30DBC9F4FC47F28F16313D9ECE6B22@SACWS001>

I have just pressed f1 after a long boot and I get:

* stopping Flush boot log to dosik
---------------------------------------------------[ OK ]
Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/dissable: usr.bin.firefox
* Starting Apparmor
profiles----------------------------------------------------------[ OK ]
* Stopping Failsaif Boot
delay--------------------------------------------------------[ OK ]
* Stopping Sytstem V initialisation compatibility
------------------------------------[ OK ]
* Starting Sytstem V runlevel compatibility
------------------------------------------[ OK ]
* Stopping automatic crash report generation
-----------------------------------------[fail]

Starting K Display Manager also fails.

Then it continues on and finally hangs after:

Stopping enable remaining boot-time ecrypted block
devices----------------------------[ OK ]

Regards

Steve




From rtgkid at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 03:33:29 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:33:29 -0500
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <0A30DBC9F4FC47F28F16313D9ECE6B22@SACWS001>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
	<0A30DBC9F4FC47F28F16313D9ECE6B22@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <0B2F2437-6BA2-4BE4-8508-2ABC313AF167@gmail.com>

This was caused by (obviously) the upgrade. Something has probably gone wrong. This may have been caused by broken packages or a GRUB boot error. If GRUB is causing the issue, you will need to reinstall it. If the system itself is broken, you will need to either 1) insert your backup CD and restore the operating system by following the instructions, or 2) completely reinstall Kubuntu with the original installation disk. If you do not have a backup disk, you will need to go with number two of the two options I have provided. Hope this helps!

In Christ,
Ryan

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, "Steve Cookson" <it at sca-uk.com> wrote:

> I have just pressed f1 after a long boot and I get:
> 
> * stopping Flush boot log to dosik
> ---------------------------------------------------[ OK ]
> Skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/dissable: usr.bin.firefox
> * Starting Apparmor
> profiles----------------------------------------------------------[ OK ]
> * Stopping Failsaif Boot
> delay--------------------------------------------------------[ OK ]
> * Stopping Sytstem V initialisation compatibility
> ------------------------------------[ OK ]
> * Starting Sytstem V runlevel compatibility
> ------------------------------------------[ OK ]
> * Stopping automatic crash report generation
> -----------------------------------------[fail]
> 
> Starting K Display Manager also fails.
> 
> Then it continues on and finally hangs after:
> 
> Stopping enable remaining boot-time ecrypted block
> devices----------------------------[ OK ]
> 
> Regards
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> -- 
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users



From rtgkid at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 03:35:51 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:35:51 -0500
Subject: plasma-desktop crashes KDE 4.74
In-Reply-To: <201204251621.01775.rjlapham@gmail.com>
References: <201204251621.01775.rjlapham@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7AE28984-3997-4B28-A8F7-EF42641998D2@gmail.com>

Actually, Kubuntu 12.04 LTS will be officially released tomorrow in Eastern US time, and today British Summer Time. Waiting will probably be your best option. Thanks!

In Christ,
Ryan

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Jerry Lapham <rjlapham at gmail.com> wrote:

> I upgraded Kubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and got a broken up screen when KDE started.  
> After some messing around in terminal mode, it let me upgrade to 11.10, which 
> was my orginal target.  When I boot 11.10, I get the following:
> 
> Application: Plasma Desktop Shell (plasma-desktop), signal: Segmentation fault
> 
> I searched for it on  https://bugs.kde.org and it identified it as  bug 
> #285663, which was closed as a dupl of bug #280494, which was fixed.
> 
> It's obviously not fixed for me.  What do I do now (besides waiting for Kubuntu 
> 12.04 and installing it rather than upgrading)?
> 
>    -Jerry
> =============================================
> Jerry Lapham
> Monroe, OH  45050
> rjlapham at gmail.com
> =============================================
> Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church
> 
> -- 
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 03:48:06 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:48:06 +1000
Subject: plasma-desktop crashes KDE 4.74
In-Reply-To: <201204251621.01775.rjlapham@gmail.com>
References: <201204251621.01775.rjlapham@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3002986.bru5Dnj9Mu@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:21:01 PM Jerry Lapham wrote:
> It's obviously not fixed for me.  What do I do now (besides waiting for
> Kubuntu  12.04 and installing it rather than upgrading)?


Whenever I get a plasma crash I try resetting the desktop.

from a console prompt:

  mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.bak
  reboot

If it fixes the issue then it was just a config issue that got cerated during 
the upgrade.

WARNING:This will lose your kde setup.

-- 
Lindsay



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 03:56:48 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:56:48 +1000
Subject: Unable to wake from Sleep (suspend to Ram)
In-Reply-To: <4F977F4F.2030203@gmail.com>
References: <2911310.g1OGH71BeU@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<4F977F4F.2030203@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2187678.0TbIARl0bo@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:36:31 AM O. Sinclair wrote:
> Check out tux-on-ice, there is a ppa with modified kernels for that. For 
> me it works better than "vanilla" kernels

Thanks Sinclair, I had some sucess with that. pm-hibernate worked very well 
and quite fast, pm-ssuspend still hung though.

Unfortunately wireless was inoperative after waking from hibernate and I've 
run out of time to fiddle with it right now.

Alos could figure how to get the logout menu/buttons to use pm-hibernate 
rather than whatever they are doing now.
-- 
Lindsay



From errol at tzora.co.il  Thu Apr 26 04:53:05 2012
From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:53:05 +0300
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <4F98D4B1.7090302@tzora.co.il>

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From info at alvin.be  Thu Apr 26 08:19:47 2012
From: info at alvin.be (Alvin Demeyer)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:19:47 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <4F98D4B1.7090302@tzora.co.il>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
	<4F98D4B1.7090302@tzora.co.il>
Message-ID: <201204261019.47997.info@alvin.be>

On Thursday 26 April 2012 06:53:05 Errol Sapir wrote:
> <html style="direction: ltr;">
>   <head>
>     <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
>       http-equiv="Content-Type">
>     <style>body p { margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt; } </style>
>   </head>
>   <body style="direction: ltr;"
>     bidimailui-detected-decoding-type="latin-charset" text="#000000"
>     bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
>     <p>Hi Steve </p>
>     <p>The same thing happened to me when upgrading to 12.04. I posted a
>       thread explaining what I did. I am copying it here. Maybe it can
>       help you.</p>
>     <p>[...]

HTML and top-posting?

It's clearly not a grub error. If it were, the boot process wouldn't even 
start. What you need now is to know where it goes wrong.

Always, always remove the "quiet splash" options. It's the first thing I do 
after a fresh installation. In this case, you might be able to set them by 
chrooting from a LiveCD.

Why? Well, that nice beautiful splash screen hides from you what you want to 
know. There's a warning? You won't see it. A daemon doesn't start? You won't 
know. Because Ubuntu lacks boot logging since the switch to upstart [1] many 
years ago, it can be hard to find out what went wrong during the boot process.

This is what you do (as root):
- Edit */etc/default/grub*
- Change the line
  /GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"/
  to
  /GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""/
- Run *update-grub*

Yes, this will put text back on your console. It might nog look as pretty as a 
bar jumping from left to right and back, but it is slightly more useful and 
should be the default setting.

Maybe someone can post a link with some explanation of how to get into a 
chrooted environment to do this? I didn't find one. It should go like this:
- Boot a LiveCD
- mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
  (if sda1 contains your root filesystem and /boot. Maybe more is required.)
- mount -t proc none /mnt/proc
- mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
- chroot /mnt /bin/bash

While your disk is mounted, take a look at /mnt/var/log/boot.log

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/328881
    (seems to be fixed now)



From errol at tzora.co.il  Thu Apr 26 08:55:27 2012
From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:55:27 +0300
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <201204261019.47997.info@alvin.be>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
	<4F98D4B1.7090302@tzora.co.il> <201204261019.47997.info@alvin.be>
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From ankit_1988manit at yahoo.co.in  Thu Apr 26 09:09:20 2012
From: ankit_1988manit at yahoo.co.in (Ankit Jain)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:09:20 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: Fw: Want to find the code or filter that does export to PDF in
	Calligra
Message-ID: <1335431360.35800.YahooMailClassic@web192501.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>








						Hi,
I want to use the code of calligra to develop an 
utility that would convert a  doc to pdf without 
installing Calligra on my machine.Can someone give me any idea on
 what filters or what files should I explore to do this.Any reference 
will also be helpful for me on this.
Also please tell me the basic approach on how to proceed.Regards,
Ankit
					
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From info at alvin.be  Thu Apr 26 09:15:56 2012
From: info at alvin.be (Alvin)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:15:56 +0200
Subject: plain text in Thunderbird
Message-ID: <201204261115.56929.info@alvin.be>

On Thursday 26 April 2012 10:55:27 Errol Sapir wrote:
>  Hi Alvin
>  Sorry for the top posting. As for the HTML I can't understand what's going
> on.  I get the message as I sent it, without the HTML settings. Errol

I'll start a new thread for this, as it's essentially another question.

I see you're using Thunderbird. There are several settings:
- Tools > Account Settings > /your-account/ > Composition & Addressing
  Uncheck 'Compose messages in HTML format'.
- Tools > Options > Composition > General > Send Options
  Text Format: Convert the message to plain text
  Plain Text Domains: Add 'ubuntu.com'

When using plain text (as you should always do - HTML should be the exception 
here) using a fixed with font will make it easy to create small tables without 
resorting to HTML. (In KMail: View > Use fixed font <X>)

Thunderbird & KMail can also view *bold*, /italic/ and _underline_ in plain 
text[1].

While checking your mail client, I see that you have to check your mail server 
too. It's listed in a few blacklists.

[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_content_types#Enhanced_plain_text_features



From mikemcginn at mcginnweb.net  Thu Apr 26 10:22:45 2012
From: mikemcginn at mcginnweb.net (Mike McGinn)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:22:45 -0400
Subject: Unable to wake from Sleep (suspend to Ram)
In-Reply-To: <2187678.0TbIARl0bo@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <2911310.g1OGH71BeU@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<4F977F4F.2030203@gmail.com>
	<2187678.0TbIARl0bo@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <201204260622.46433.mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net>


On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 23:56:48 Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:36:31 AM O. Sinclair wrote:
> > Check out tux-on-ice, there is a ppa with modified kernels for that. For
> > me it works better than "vanilla" kernels
> 
> Thanks Sinclair, I had some sucess with that. pm-hibernate worked very well
> and quite fast, pm-ssuspend still hung though.
> 
> Unfortunately wireless was inoperative after waking from hibernate and I've
> run out of time to fiddle with it right now.
> 
> Alos could figure how to get the logout menu/buttons to use pm-hibernate
> rather than whatever they are doing now.

rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state will fix the wireless problem 
on waking.

-- 
Mike McGinn		FACOCM
Ex Uno Plurima
No electrons were harmed in sending this message.
** Registered Linux User 377849



From it at sca-uk.com  Thu Apr 26 10:25:43 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:25:43 -0300
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <201204261019.47997.info@alvin.be>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001><4F98D4B1.7090302@tzora.co.il>
	<201204261019.47997.info@alvin.be>
Message-ID: <8AD34BB1F70E4A3682396422A4381890@SACWS001>

>Always, always remove the "quiet splash" options. It's the first thing I do

>after a fresh installation. In this case, you might be able to set them by 
>chrooting from a LiveCD.

Is this not the same as pressing esc during boot.  I get a series of error
messages then as per my second email?

Regards

Steve.




From loic.grobol at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 10:38:52 2012
From: loic.grobol at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lo=EFc_Grobol?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:38:52 +0200
Subject: kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade still buggy
Message-ID: <CADtLoSchrwrEVg7AcgaFtV=Ca4K=bSwLiMPciKmbaX5CHj-TMw@mail.gmail.com>

I have already posted about this a while ago, but I saw no further
reactions, so I'll try again. Here the result of
kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade

~$ kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 77, in <module>
    print _("Checking for a new ubuntu release")
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in
position 1: ordinal not in range(128)

after some fumbling, it seems that the issue is with the function _(),
that seems to handle encoding, the issue doesn't happen with
do-release-upgrade alone. As is, I don't know how to upgrade to
Precise.
-- 
Loïc Grobol.

M1 Mathématiques AMA. Faculté des sciences, Orléans La Source.
M1 Linguistique LAASTIC. Faculté de lettres, langues et sciences
humaines, Orléans La Source.



From it at sca-uk.com  Thu Apr 26 10:50:09 2012
From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:50:09 -0300
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <0B2F2437-6BA2-4BE4-8508-2ABC313AF167@gmail.com>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001><0A30DBC9F4FC47F28F16313D9ECE6B22@SACWS001>
	<0B2F2437-6BA2-4BE4-8508-2ABC313AF167@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EA6478FC47DC4567B401C72BBBBE11D9@SACWS001>

Hi Ryan,

> Something has probably gone wrong. This may have been caused by broken
packages or a GRUB boot error.

Thanks for this.

I'm creating a parallel installation so I can choose at boot time.  

Ideally, I feel I should be able to fix my install eg by doing: 

esc
alt-ctrl-f1
(login)
(I can't remember if I did a startx here or not)
dpkg --configure -a 

which I did and it fixed a number of problems, but not enough to boot.

Regards

Steve




From info at alvin.be  Thu Apr 26 10:54:16 2012
From: info at alvin.be (Alvin)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:54:16 +0200
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 won'1t boot after upgrade.
In-Reply-To: <EA6478FC47DC4567B401C72BBBBE11D9@SACWS001>
References: <74354ED31B29445B8B30CF46940CC106@SACWS001>
	<0B2F2437-6BA2-4BE4-8508-2ABC313AF167@gmail.com>
	<EA6478FC47DC4567B401C72BBBBE11D9@SACWS001>
Message-ID: <201204261254.16938.info@alvin.be>

On Thursday 26 April 2012 12:50:09 Steve Cookson wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
> 
> > Something has probably gone wrong. This may have been caused by broken
> > packages or a GRUB boot error.
> 
> Thanks for this.
> 
> I'm creating a parallel installation so I can choose at boot time.
> Ideally, I feel I should be able to fix my install eg by doing:
> 
> esc
> alt-ctrl-f1
> (login)
> (I can't remember if I did a startx here or not)
> dpkg --configure -a
> 
> which I did and it fixed a number of problems, but not enough to boot.

Yes, it did. If you can log in, you can boot :-) It's only X that doesn't 
start. Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors.

Try restarting kdm ( /etc/init.d/kdm restart ) and see what happens on TTY7.



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 11:40:14 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:40:14 +1000
Subject: Unable to wake from Sleep (suspend to Ram)
In-Reply-To: <201204260622.46433.mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net>
References: <2911310.g1OGH71BeU@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<2187678.0TbIARl0bo@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
	<201204260622.46433.mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net>
Message-ID: <7546921.GmIu18KSvx@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:22:45 AM Mike McGinn wrote:
> rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state will fix the wireless
> problem  on waking.

Thanks
-- 
Lindsay



From jriddell at ubuntu.com  Thu Apr 26 12:06:33 2012
From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:06:33 +0100
Subject: 12.04 LTS Released
Message-ID: <20120426120633.GB12478@starsky.19inch.net>

The news you've all been waiting for

http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release

Mind and read the known issues https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Known_Issues
KMail upgrades are still flakey and kmix crashes :(

Kubuntu has an interesting future now, interesting is good, see you there :)

Jonathan



From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Thu Apr 26 12:42:50 2012
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:42:50 +0300
Subject: 12.04 LTS Released
In-Reply-To: <20120426120633.GB12478@starsky.19inch.net>
References: <20120426120633.GB12478@starsky.19inch.net>
Message-ID: <4F9942CA.4060406@prayingforisrael.net>

On 04/26/2012 03:06 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> The news you've all been waiting for
>
> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release
>
> Mind and read the known issues https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Known_Issues
> KMail upgrades are still flakey and kmix crashes :(
>
> Kubuntu has an interesting future now, interesting is good, see you there :)
>
> Jonathan
>


Just downloaded it and installed it on my GigaBook netbook. After login it defaulted to the 
'netbook' edition - it's going to take me a bit of getting used to...

One little thing which I noticed when I installed XUbuntu beta 12.04 was that doing an install 
from the alternate iso it claimed it couldn't find any network connection. I ignored it after 
several attempts and after the install finished and I rebooted the network was there - same thing 
with the Precise install today.

Nigel



From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Thu Apr 26 12:46:11 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:46:11 +0300
Subject: Fw: Want to find the code or filter that does export to PDF in
	Calligra
In-Reply-To: <1335431360.35800.YahooMailClassic@web192501.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
References: <1335431360.35800.YahooMailClassic@web192501.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1617356.DXOdQtBsvd@hamra>

On Thursday April 26 2012 17:09:20 Ankit Jain wrote:
> 						Hi,
> I want to use the code of calligra to develop an
> utility that would convert a  doc to pdf without
> installing Calligra on my machine.Can someone give me any idea on
>  what filters or what files should I explore to do this.Any reference
> will also be helpful for me on this.
> Also please tell me the basic approach on how to proceed.Regards,
> Ankit

https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/show/filters

this link will point you to the filters directory of the calligra source code. 
you can get it through git as instructed on top of the page.
the pdf filter is somewhere in there, you need to know your way through c++ to 
find it and utilise it, good luck.
-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems
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From ankit_1988manit at yahoo.co.in  Thu Apr 26 12:56:18 2012
From: ankit_1988manit at yahoo.co.in (Ankit Jain)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:56:18 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: Fw: Want to find the code or filter that does export to PDF in
	Calligra
In-Reply-To: <1617356.DXOdQtBsvd@hamra>
Message-ID: <1335444978.37353.YahooMailClassic@web192505.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

Thanks a lot Waleed

--- On Thu, 26/4/12, Waleed Hamra <kubuntu-users at whamra.com> wrote:

From: Waleed Hamra <kubuntu-users at whamra.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Want to find the code or filter that does export to PDF in Calligra
To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Date: Thursday, 26 April, 2012, 6:16 PM

On Thursday April 26 2012 17:09:20 Ankit Jain wrote:
>                         Hi,
> I want to use the code of calligra to develop an
> utility that would convert a  doc to pdf without
> installing Calligra on my machine.Can someone give me any idea on
>  what filters or what files should I explore to do this.Any reference
> will also be helpful for me on this.
> Also please tell me the basic approach on how to proceed.Regards,
> Ankit

https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/show/filters

this link will point you to the filters directory of the calligra source code. 
you can get it through git as instructed on top of the page.
the pdf filter is somewhere in there, you need to know your way through c++ to 
find it and utilise it, good luck.
-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems

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From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Thu Apr 26 12:58:14 2012
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:58:14 +0300
Subject: 12.04 Precise LTS and netbooks
Message-ID: <4F994666.7010205@prayingforisrael.net>

Just figured out how to change from a netbook desktop to a 'normal' desktop:
System Settings > Work Space Behavior > Workspace > Workspace Type:

Nigel



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 13:16:36 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:16:36 +1000
Subject: 12.04 Precise LTS and netbooks
In-Reply-To: <4F994666.7010205@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <4F994666.7010205@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <4575433.7jqtx7L2ZU@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 03:58:14 PM Nigel Ridley wrote:
> Just figured out how to change from a netbook desktop to a 'normal' desktop:
> System Settings > Work Space Behavior > Workspace > Workspace Type:

Woah ... tried the netbook type ... no likee ...
-- 
Lindsay



From jshorie at medinaco.org  Thu Apr 26 15:00:48 2012
From: jshorie at medinaco.org (Jonathan Shorie)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:00:48 -0400
Subject: Lightscribe Label Template
Message-ID: <201204261100.49031.jshorie@medinaco.org>

Does anyone know where I can get a decent lightscribe label template for 
Kubuntu 12.04.  I would prefer .png format but .jpg would work as well.

Thanks



From errol at tzora.co.il  Thu Apr 26 16:07:21 2012
From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:07:21 +0300
Subject: plain text in Thunderbird
In-Reply-To: <201204261115.56929.info@alvin.be>
References: <201204261115.56929.info@alvin.be>
Message-ID: <4F9972B9.3000000@tzora.co.il>

On 04/26/2012 12:15 PM, Alvin wrote:
> On Thursday 26 April 2012 10:55:27 Errol Sapir wrote:
>>   Hi Alvin
>>   Sorry for the top posting. As for the HTML I can't understand what's going
>> on.  I get the message as I sent it, without the HTML settings. Errol
>
> I'll start a new thread for this, as it's essentially another question.
>
> I see you're using Thunderbird. There are several settings:
> - Tools>  Account Settings>  /your-account/>  Composition&  Addressing
>    Uncheck 'Compose messages in HTML format'.
> - Tools>  Options>  Composition>  General>  Send Options
>    Text Format: Convert the message to plain text
>    Plain Text Domains: Add 'ubuntu.com'
>
> When using plain text (as you should always do - HTML should be the exception
> here) using a fixed with font will make it easy to create small tables without
> resorting to HTML. (In KMail: View>  Use fixed font<X>)
>
> Thunderbird&  KMail can also view *bold*, /italic/ and _underline_ in plain
> text[1].
>
> While checking your mail client, I see that you have to check your mail server
> too. It's listed in a few blacklists.
>
> [1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Mail_content_types#Enhanced_plain_text_features
>
Alin, thanks for your explanation. I have changed the settings and hope 
things are now sent in plain text.
My settings were under the edit> title and not tools. Maybe because my 
Thunderbird is 11.0.1?
As for the checking of mail server, that is a must with my provider.



From Axel.Krebs at t-online.de  Thu Apr 26 17:23:59 2012
From: Axel.Krebs at t-online.de (Axel Krebs)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:23:59 +0200
Subject: Fw: Want to find the code or filter that does export to PDF in
	Calligra
In-Reply-To: <1617356.DXOdQtBsvd@hamra>
References: <1335431360.35800.YahooMailClassic@web192501.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<1617356.DXOdQtBsvd@hamra>
Message-ID: <4F9984AF.3080208@t-online.de>

Am 26.04.2012 14:46, schrieb Waleed Hamra:
> On Thursday April 26 2012 17:09:20 Ankit Jain wrote:
>> 						Hi,
>> I want to use the code of calligra to develop an
>> utility that would convert a  doc to pdf without
>> installing Calligra on my machine.Can someone give me any idea on
>>  what filters or what files should I explore to do this.Any reference
>> will also be helpful for me on this.
>> Also please tell me the basic approach on how to proceed.Regards,
>> Ankit
> 
> https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/show/filters
> 
> this link will point you to the filters directory of the calligra source code. 
> you can get it through git as instructed on top of the page.
> the pdf filter is somewhere in there, you need to know your way through c++ to 
> find it and utilise it, good luck.
> 
> 
> 
Hi:

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From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com  Thu Apr 26 20:09:07 2012
From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:09:07 -0400
Subject: [12.04-64Bit]-Code::Blocks C++ IDE Does NOT Work?
Message-ID: <4F99AB63.3020902@GMail.com>

[12.04-64Bit]-Code::Blocks C++ IDE Does NOT Work?

Hi,

Running current Kubuntu 12.04 LTS 64Bit.
I installed Code::Blocks C++ IDE via Software Manager.

When I run Code::Blocks from menu
I see dialog for default compiler and select it
and then Code::Blocks C++ IDE dies???

Anyone know how to fix this?
(I am a cross-platform game designer)

Thanks!

Jesse



From cp at ccil.org  Fri Apr 27 10:55:37 2012
From: cp at ccil.org (Chuck Peters)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:55:37 -0400
Subject: torrent rejected by tracker
Message-ID: <CAA+8RQY54T96nt6iKxYL59+amFe=+SmCW4KYzWheEdOBSVyGwA@mail.gmail.com>

I downloaded the torrent file via $ wget
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/kubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
and ...

|     rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for
use with this tracker.


Thanks,
Chuck



From mmtsales at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 12:44:36 2012
From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:44:36 -0300
Subject: [12.04-64Bit]-Code::Blocks C++ IDE Does NOT Work?
In-Reply-To: <4F99AB63.3020902@GMail.com>
References: <4F99AB63.3020902@GMail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJpADkh5ztWyJubrody1_P_jzVFDhALgZxtZ0=XHUVzp43TjwA@mail.gmail.com>

2012/4/26 Jesse Palser <jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com>
>
> [12.04-64Bit]-Code::Blocks C++ IDE Does NOT Work?
>
> Hi,
>
> Running current Kubuntu 12.04 LTS 64Bit.
> I installed Code::Blocks C++ IDE via Software Manager.
>
> When I run Code::Blocks from menu
> I see dialog for default compiler and select it
> and then Code::Blocks C++ IDE dies???
>
> Anyone know how to fix this?
> (I am a cross-platform game designer)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jesse

Unfortunately, I can't help with the Code::Blocks issue. However, did
you consider using Qt Creator for cross-plataform development? Even if
you do not want to use the Qt Library (which, by the way, is a great,
great library for cross-plataform development), you can use the Qt
Creator IDE to write, build and debug software using plain C++ or C++
coupled with any other library you wish. The Qt Creator IDE is great.
Take a look:
http://qt.nokia.com/downloads

If you have not created much code using other libraries yet, I would
advise you to take a look into the Qt Library as well.

[]'s
Marcelo



From rtgkid at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 12:49:40 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:49:40 -0500
Subject: torrent rejected by tracker
In-Reply-To: <CAA+8RQY54T96nt6iKxYL59+amFe=+SmCW4KYzWheEdOBSVyGwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA+8RQY54T96nt6iKxYL59+amFe=+SmCW4KYzWheEdOBSVyGwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6860931A-E55B-4C9D-B556-6991A0CDE575@gmail.com>

Are you not using Kubuntu right now - that is, do you not have it installed right now? If so, you're trying to do it the hard way - you can upgrade directly from Kubuntu 10.04 LTS or Kubuntu 11.10, without the need of a medium.

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 27, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Chuck Peters <cp at ccil.org> wrote:

> I downloaded the torrent file via $ wget
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/kubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
> and ...
> 
> |     rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for
> use with this tracker.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chuck
> 
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From linux at appjaws.plus.com  Fri Apr 27 14:19:41 2012
From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:19:41 +0100
Subject: update to 12-04???
Message-ID: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>

Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted but have 
not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
What do I do now?
paul



From rtgkid at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 14:25:26 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:25:26 -0500
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>
Message-ID: <4F9AAC56.4010506@gmail.com>

On 04/27/2012 09:19 AM, Paul Stear wrote:
> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted but have
> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
> What do I do now?
> paul
>
Hello. If there is a gear icon in the notification centre (on the KDE 
taskbar), click on it. The gear icon is probably it. Thanks!

In Christ,
Ryan



From buzzmandt at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 15:01:08 2012
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:01:08 -0400
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <4F9AAC56.4010506@gmail.com>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>
	<4F9AAC56.4010506@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQHEAy1CN0-akWT1LQw9=VnyS4SOpziZkdxE8cRW-DbOgxTuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Check updater settings that it is checked for new distribution upgrades
On Apr 27, 2012 10:26 AM, "Ryan Gauger" <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 04/27/2012 09:19 AM, Paul Stear wrote:
>
>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted but
>> have
>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
>> What do I do now?
>> paul
>>
>>  Hello. If there is a gear icon in the notification centre (on the KDE
> taskbar), click on it. The gear icon is probably it. Thanks!
>
> In Christ,
> Ryan
>
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From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 16:02:27 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:02:27 -0400
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>
Message-ID: <CA+N=Xid1_ssgWPoy4aZYcF06HOT_rZDCd+KvDE+Bm6UDECSdaQ@mail.gmail.com>

You can find full instructions on the Kubuntu.org website.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu

I had the same problem and this method worked for me, albeit it may
take 14 hours because the connection to the source files is so
overloaded!

On 27 April 2012 10:19, Paul Stear <linux at appjaws.plus.com> wrote:
> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted but have
> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
> What do I do now?
> paul
>
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> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users



From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 16:27:42 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:27:42 -0400
Subject: New Precise install
Message-ID: <CA+N=Xifn1tbtBfsG1GvniC48ZL5oE+dR09bipJ974hywWk7aag@mail.gmail.com>

Hi List,

I'm having an unusually hard time getting 12.04 on my 6(?) year old
Gateway laptop. It has 1 GB of RAM, 80 GB HDD (all free and, a 1.6GHz
Turion 64 CPU. I had no problem installing 11.10, but several
downloads and burns of 12.04 always stopped foreer at the "gear wheel"
with dots underneath. I've tried both 64 bit and 32 bit versions, and
the alternate installer 64 bit version, with the same result, it never
even got to the choice between "test it out" and "install".

Right now I'm in the middle of doing a version upgrade from a brand
new install of 32 bit 11.10, which seems to be working. It is getting
new packages very, very slowly, might be finished in 10 hours!

Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any fix?

Does this mean that my admittedly obsolete hardware has really reached
it's end of life for Kubuntu?

Cheers



From rtgkid at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 16:42:52 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:42:52 -0500
Subject: New Precise install
In-Reply-To: <CA+N=Xifn1tbtBfsG1GvniC48ZL5oE+dR09bipJ974hywWk7aag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+N=Xifn1tbtBfsG1GvniC48ZL5oE+dR09bipJ974hywWk7aag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F9ACC8C.9050508@gmail.com>

On 04/27/2012 11:27 AM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> I'm having an unusually hard time getting 12.04 on my 6(?) year old
> Gateway laptop. It has 1 GB of RAM, 80 GB HDD (all free and, a 1.6GHz
> Turion 64 CPU. I had no problem installing 11.10, but several
> downloads and burns of 12.04 always stopped foreer at the "gear wheel"
> with dots underneath. I've tried both 64 bit and 32 bit versions, and
> the alternate installer 64 bit version, with the same result, it never
> even got to the choice between "test it out" and "install".
>
> Right now I'm in the middle of doing a version upgrade from a brand
> new install of 32 bit 11.10, which seems to be working. It is getting
> new packages very, very slowly, might be finished in 10 hours!
>
> Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any fix?
>
> Does this mean that my admittedly obsolete hardware has really reached
> it's end of life for Kubuntu?
>
> Cheers
>
I have never experienced what you are, but upgrades are _*/VERY /*_slow.

In Christ,
Ryan
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From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 27 16:49:48 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:49:48 -0400
Subject: New Precise install
In-Reply-To: <4F9ACC8C.9050508@gmail.com>
References: <CA+N=Xifn1tbtBfsG1GvniC48ZL5oE+dR09bipJ974hywWk7aag@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F9ACC8C.9050508@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+N=XieTDWBgT+01yeqzcwpt=mO5CFwTFNevj7_KdXvvEeD5Jw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ryan. The slow upgrades I can (grudgingly!) accept, but the total
inability to do a clean install from the disc really puzzles me.

Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
On Apr 27, 2012 12:43 PM, "Ryan Gauger" <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:

>  On 04/27/2012 11:27 AM, Leslie Anne Chatterton wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I'm having an unusually hard time getting 12.04 on my 6(?) year old
> Gateway laptop. It has 1 GB of RAM, 80 GB HDD (all free and, a 1.6GHz
> Turion 64 CPU. I had no problem installing 11.10, but several
> downloads and burns of 12.04 always stopped foreer at the "gear wheel"
> with dots underneath. I've tried both 64 bit and 32 bit versions, and
> the alternate installer 64 bit version, with the same result, it never
> even got to the choice between "test it out" and "install".
>
> Right now I'm in the middle of doing a version upgrade from a brand
> new install of 32 bit 11.10, which seems to be working. It is getting
> new packages very, very slowly, might be finished in 10 hours!
>
> Has anyone else had a similar problem? Is there any fix?
>
> Does this mean that my admittedly obsolete hardware has really reached
> it's end of life for Kubuntu?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>  I have never experienced what you are, but upgrades are *VERY *slow.
>
> In Christ,
> Ryan
>
> --
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From clay at claydoh.com  Fri Apr 27 18:09:36 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:09:36 -0400
Subject: torrent rejected by tracker
In-Reply-To: <CAA+8RQY54T96nt6iKxYL59+amFe=+SmCW4KYzWheEdOBSVyGwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA+8RQY54T96nt6iKxYL59+amFe=+SmCW4KYzWheEdOBSVyGwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16698686.U9lOidD55H@lark-latitude-d630>

On Friday, April 27, 2012 06:55:37 AM Chuck Peters wrote:
> I downloaded the torrent file via $ wget
> 
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/kubuntu-12.04-
des
> ktop-i386.iso.torrent and ...
> 
> |     rejected by tracker - Requested download is not authorized for
> 
> use with this tracker.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chuck

Looks like a tracker problem. It should be fixed now, I spoke to cjwatson on 
irc and he fixed it.

Thanks for noticing it!

--  
Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net
http://ubuntumaine.org



From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Sat Apr 28 04:06:41 2012
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:06:41 +0300
Subject: Synaptiks - touchpad not found 12.04
Message-ID: <4F9B6CD1.7050704@prayingforisrael.net>

Installed Precise on my GigaBook netbook the other day and Synaptiks can't find my touchpad. The 
touchpad works fine and a previous version of Ubuntu found it OK.
Synaptiks is asking for detailed info about the touchpad so as to let the devs know.
How can I find the info?

Nigel



From valtermura at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 06:43:53 2012
From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 08:43:53 +0200
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2>
Message-ID: <4F9B91A9.2070108@gmail.com>

Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto:
> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted but have
> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
> What do I do now?
> paul
>

Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT.

My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports" 
lines from "other software", but nothing happens.

Does anyone have a trick?

TIA, regards,
-- 
Valter
*Open Source is better!*
KDE: www.kde.org
Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org
LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org



From valtermura at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 06:57:07 2012
From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 08:57:07 +0200
Subject: 12.04 LTS Released
In-Reply-To: <20120426120633.GB12478@starsky.19inch.net>
References: <20120426120633.GB12478@starsky.19inch.net>
Message-ID: <4F9B94C3.6080909@gmail.com>

Il 26/04/2012 14:06, Jonathan Riddell ha scritto:
> The news you've all been waiting for
>
> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.04-release
>
> Mind and read the known issues https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Known_Issues
> KMail upgrades are still flakey and kmix crashes :(
>

Hi Jonathan,

is there a reason why my (old) system doesn't warn me to upgrade both 
from Muon and APT?

PIV 2.8 Ghz

Oneiric 11.10 updated / KDE 4.8.2 / 32bit

PPAs and PPA-Backports command now deleted.

TIA and regards,
-- 
Valter
*Open Source is better!*
KDE: www.kde.org
Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 07:52:14 2012
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:52:14 +0200
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <4F9B91A9.2070108@gmail.com>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2> <4F9B91A9.2070108@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F9BA1AE.7050000@gmail.com>

On 28/04/12 08:43, Valter Mura wrote:
> Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto:
>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted
>> but have
>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
>> What do I do now?
>> paul
>>
>
> Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT.
>
> My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports"
> lines from "other software", but nothing happens.
>
> Does anyone have a trick?
>
> TIA, regards,
Without KNOWING the reason I dare a guess on this. Muon bug. I have 
Apper installed besides Muon (wanted to try it out, in short) and it is 
notifying me of the dist upgrade. Muon is not.

Best,
Sinclair



From valtermura at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 08:54:16 2012
From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:54:16 +0200
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <4F9BA1AE.7050000@gmail.com>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2> <4F9B91A9.2070108@gmail.com>
	<4F9BA1AE.7050000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F9BB038.10402@gmail.com>

Il 28/04/2012 09:52, O. Sinclair ha scritto:
> On 28/04/12 08:43, Valter Mura wrote:
>> Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto:
>>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted
>>> but have
>>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
>>> What do I do now?
>>> paul
>>>
>>
>> Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT.
>>
>> My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports"
>> lines from "other software", but nothing happens.
>>
>> Does anyone have a trick?
>>
>> TIA, regards,
> Without KNOWING the reason I dare a guess on this. Muon bug. I have
> Apper installed besides Muon (wanted to try it out, in short) and it is
> notifying me of the dist upgrade. Muon is not.

Well I could try it (the old kpackagekit...)

The strange thing is that also APT (cli) doesn't give me vital signs...

Thanks, anyway :)

Ciao
-- 
Valter
*Open Source is better!*
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From nigel at prayingforisrael.net  Sat Apr 28 08:59:35 2012
From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:59:35 +0300
Subject: Synaptiks - touchpad not found 12.04
In-Reply-To: <4F9B6CD1.7050704@prayingforisrael.net>
References: <4F9B6CD1.7050704@prayingforisrael.net>
Message-ID: <4F9BB177.1040001@prayingforisrael.net>

On 04/28/2012 07:06 AM, Nigel Ridley wrote:
> Installed Precise on my GigaBook netbook the other day and Synaptiks can't find my touchpad. The
> touchpad works fine and a previous version of Ubuntu found it OK.
> Synaptiks is asking for detailed info about the touchpad so as to let the devs know.
> How can I find the info?
>
> Nigel
>
Answering myself:

Found some answers and a solution :-)

nigel at netbook:~$ xinput -list
⎜   ↳ FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad         id=13   [slave  pointer  (2)]

nigel at netbook:~$ dmesg
[   19.200104] psmouse serio2: sentelic: Finger Sensing Pad, hw: 13.2.1, sw: 1.0.0-K

nigel at netbook:~$ synclient -l
Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?

nigel at netbook:~$ cat /proc/bus/input/devices
I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0002 Product=000f Version=0000
N: Name="FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad"
P: Phys=isa0060/serio2/input0
S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio2/input/input10
U: Uniq=
H: Handlers=mouse1 event10
B: PROP=0
B: EV=7
B: KEY=670000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
B: REL=143


It is a known issue that the Sentelic FingerSensingPad (touchpad) is recognized as a ps2 mouse.

A solution that is quite easy can be found on comment #3 on this thread:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502560

Hope this helps others

Nigel

P.S. I did read one comment on another board somewhere that the newer 3.3 kernels recognize the 
Sentelic FingerSensingPad correctly.




From buzzmandt at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 09:36:46 2012
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:36:46 -0400
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <4F9BB038.10402@gmail.com>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2> <4F9B91A9.2070108@gmail.com>
	<4F9BA1AE.7050000@gmail.com> <4F9BB038.10402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPQHEAx-M2NfVHvdWFzYD6qOe1uUHeTG5pLAAAniVhP581OkyQ@mail.gmail.com>

Could do
sudo do-release-upgrade
On Apr 28, 2012 4:55 AM, "Valter Mura" <valtermura at gmail.com> wrote:

> Il 28/04/2012 09:52, O. Sinclair ha scritto:
>
>> On 28/04/12 08:43, Valter Mura wrote:
>>
>>> Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted
>>>> but have
>>>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
>>>> What do I do now?
>>>> paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT.
>>>
>>> My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports"
>>> lines from "other software", but nothing happens.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a trick?
>>>
>>> TIA, regards,
>>>
>> Without KNOWING the reason I dare a guess on this. Muon bug. I have
>> Apper installed besides Muon (wanted to try it out, in short) and it is
>> notifying me of the dist upgrade. Muon is not.
>>
>
> Well I could try it (the old kpackagekit...)
>
> The strange thing is that also APT (cli) doesn't give me vital signs...
>
> Thanks, anyway :)
>
> Ciao
> --
> Valter
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From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Apr 28 10:02:41 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:02:41 +0200
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <CAPQHEAx-M2NfVHvdWFzYD6qOe1uUHeTG5pLAAAniVhP581OkyQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2> <4F9BB038.10402@gmail.com>
	<CAPQHEAx-M2NfVHvdWFzYD6qOe1uUHeTG5pLAAAniVhP581OkyQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204281202.41830.kassube@gmx.net>

Dale Trombley wrote:
> Could do
> sudo do-release-upgrade

That wouldn't work either - but you could try

sudo do-release-upgrade -d

at least that's what worked here.


Nils



From buzzmandt at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 10:08:16 2012
From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:08:16 -0400
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <201204281202.41830.kassube@gmx.net>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2> <4F9BB038.10402@gmail.com>
	<CAPQHEAx-M2NfVHvdWFzYD6qOe1uUHeTG5pLAAAniVhP581OkyQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<201204281202.41830.kassube@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <CAPQHEAy9Vbx7A7=d=09MYJAS5Wk793w0pYPXiNmQA3gbf2EOjg@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm. It was my understanding -d was for dev versions but I could be wrong.

Also, for muon while muon update manager is up check settings that release
upgrades is checked
On Apr 28, 2012 6:04 AM, "Nils Kassube" <kassube at gmx.net> wrote:

> Dale Trombley wrote:
> > Could do
> > sudo do-release-upgrade
>
> That wouldn't work either - but you could try
>
> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
>
> at least that's what worked here.
>
>
> Nils
>
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From kassube at gmx.net  Sat Apr 28 10:42:55 2012
From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:42:55 +0200
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <CAPQHEAy9Vbx7A7=d=09MYJAS5Wk793w0pYPXiNmQA3gbf2EOjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <11040506.Q4GngbSCn5@pc2> <201204281202.41830.kassube@gmx.net>
	<CAPQHEAy9Vbx7A7=d=09MYJAS5Wk793w0pYPXiNmQA3gbf2EOjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201204281242.55828.kassube@gmx.net>

Dale Trombley wrote:
> Hmmm. It was my understanding -d was for dev versions but I could be
> wrong.

Yepp. But this seems to be the only way to upgrade right now. From
<https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-lts-upgrades>:

| If currently running lucid, we'll not prompt them for LTS to LTS
| upgrade until the point release comes out. (12.04.1).


Nils



From clay at claydoh.com  Sat Apr 28 11:39:41 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:39:41 +0000
Subject: update to 12-04???
Message-ID: <20120428113941.6526A9BC289@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com>

Apt itself has no knowledge of Ubuntu new releases. The updater (whether Muon updater or Apper's ) basically tells apt what to do.

If it hasn't already been done, please check in the Software Sources that the new release notification is set correctly and that you have updated your system.

Clay Weber

------Original Message------
From: Valter Mura <valtermura at gmail.com>
To: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:54:16 AM GMT+0200
Subject: Re: update to 12-04???

Il 28/04/2012 09:52, O. Sinclair ha scritto:
> On 28/04/12 08:43, Valter Mura wrote:
>> Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto:
>>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted
>>> but have
>>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
>>> What do I do now?
>>> paul
>>>
>>
>> Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT.
>>
>> My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports"
>> lines from "other software", but nothing happens.
>>
>> Does anyone have a trick?
>>
>> TIA, regards,
> Without KNOWING the reason I dare a guess on this. Muon bug. I have
> Apper installed besides Muon (wanted to try it out, in short) and it is
> notifying me of the dist upgrade. Muon is not.

Well I could try it (the old kpackagekit...)

The strange thing is that also APT (cli) doesn't give me vital signs...

Thanks, anyway :)

Ciao
-- 
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From girardhenri at free.fr  Sat Apr 28 14:32:55 2012
From: girardhenri at free.fr (girardhenri)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:32:55 +0200
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <20120428113941.6526A9BC289@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com>
References: <20120428113941.6526A9BC289@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com>
Message-ID: <4F9BFF97.4090600@free.fr>

I always use :
sudo update-manager -d
and everything goes right


Le 28/04/2012 13:39, Clay Weber a écrit :
> Apt itself has no knowledge of Ubuntu new releases. The updater (whether Muon updater or Apper's ) basically tells apt what to do.
>
> If it hasn't already been done, please check in the Software Sources that the new release notification is set correctly and that you have updated your system.
>
> Clay Weber
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Valter Mura<valtermura at gmail.com>
> To: "Kubuntu user technical support"<kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:54:16 AM GMT+0200
> Subject: Re: update to 12-04???
>
> Il 28/04/2012 09:52, O. Sinclair ha scritto:
>> On 28/04/12 08:43, Valter Mura wrote:
>>> Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto:
>>>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted
>>>> but have
>>>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
>>>> What do I do now?
>>>> paul
>>>>
>>> Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT.
>>>
>>> My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports"
>>> lines from "other software", but nothing happens.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a trick?
>>>
>>> TIA, regards,
>> Without KNOWING the reason I dare a guess on this. Muon bug. I have
>> Apper installed besides Muon (wanted to try it out, in short) and it is
>> notifying me of the dist upgrade. Muon is not.
> Well I could try it (the old kpackagekit...)
>
> The strange thing is that also APT (cli) doesn't give me vital signs...
>
> Thanks, anyway :)
>
> Ciao




From valtermura at gmail.com  Sat Apr 28 15:48:42 2012
From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura)
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:48:42 +0200
Subject: update to 12-04???
In-Reply-To: <20120428113941.6526A9BC289@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com>
References: <20120428113941.6526A9BC289@vzwemconn21.vzw-prod.oz.com>
Message-ID: <4F9C115A.1090600@gmail.com>

Il 28/04/2012 13:39, Clay Weber ha scritto:
> Apt itself has no knowledge of Ubuntu new releases. The updater (whether Muon updater or Apper's ) basically tells apt what to do.
>
> If it hasn't already been done, please check in the Software Sources that the new release notification is set correctly and that you have updated your system.
>
> Clay Weber

In Muon / Updates I have enabled all updates except for "not supported" 
in Kubuntu updates; In Release updgrade "Long term support release only" 
is set.

>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Valter Mura<valtermura at gmail.com>
> To: "Kubuntu user technical support"<kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:54:16 AM GMT+0200
> Subject: Re: update to 12-04???
>
> Il 28/04/2012 09:52, O. Sinclair ha scritto:
>> On 28/04/12 08:43, Valter Mura wrote:
>>> Il 27/04/2012 16:19, Paul Stear ha scritto:
>>>> Hi, I have updated all 11.10 packages as per instructions, rebooted
>>>> but have
>>>> not had system notification that a new version of kubuntu is available.
>>>> What do I do now?
>>>> paul
>>>>
>>>
>>> Same for me. Muon doesn't warn me about upgrade, nor APT.
>>>
>>> My system is updated (11.10), I also delete "ppa" and "ppa-backports"
>>> lines from "other software", but nothing happens.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a trick?
>>>
>>> TIA, regards,
>> Without KNOWING the reason I dare a guess on this. Muon bug. I have
>> Apper installed besides Muon (wanted to try it out, in short) and it is
>> notifying me of the dist upgrade. Muon is not.
>
> Well I could try it (the old kpackagekit...)
>
> The strange thing is that also APT (cli) doesn't give me vital signs...
>

Ciao
-- 
Valter
*Open Source is better!*
KDE: www.kde.org
Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org
LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org



From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk  Sun Apr 29 11:11:32 2012
From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:11:32 +0100
Subject: Kubuntu 11.10 and KDE PIM 4.8.2
Message-ID: <21231093.7VtHCyaGCb@rachael>

Has anyone got any tips on getting KDE PIM 4.8.2 to work? I only upgraded to 
Kubuntu 11.10 2 weekends ago after being happy with 11.04, but thought it was 
about time I upgraded.

First of all I tried to get everything working with 4.7.4 and although it did 
kind of work, there were numerous things that made it a pain to use such as 
filtering not working. So I thought I'd try 4.8.2 from the backport PPA and it 
seems worse, now in addition to the problems I was having before, I now keep 
seeing "retrieving folder contents" whenever I try to read emails and Contacts 
seems to take ages to display the contact details after clicking on a contact.

So, has anyone got any tips that might help me get this thing sorted?

-- 
Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org



From gkourtev at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 14:37:09 2012
From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:37:09 +0300
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
Message-ID: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>

Hi all.  Can anyone explain me what is the difference between the 'Activities' 
and 'virtual desktops'?  It seems quite the same for me and difficult to 
understand what is the value of using one against the other. Thanks.
gk



From anj.tuesday at gmx.net  Sun Apr 29 15:20:27 2012
From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:20:27 +0200
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
Message-ID: <2097004.yecreVlyQD@earthworm>

Am Sonntag, 29. April 2012, 17:37:09 schrieb Georgi Kourtev:
> Hi all.  Can anyone explain me what is the difference between the
> 'Activities' and 'virtual desktops'?  It seems quite the same for me and
> difficult to understand what is the value of using one against the other.

Each activity has its own set of widgets and its own wallpaper(s), and each
activity can automatically restore a set of running applications that is
specific to it but not to other activities. 

If virtual desktops are like swivelling around in your office chair and facing
a different desk, activities are like going into an entirely different 
room with different tools and projects ready to be worked with.

When it works, it's a simple way to switch between projects without bringing
all the other clutter along. 

Yes, virtual desktops can be used in such a manner *to an extent*, too. 
But I've come to appreciate to have an "general internet laziness" activity
and a "translation work" activity and a "replaying Ultima IV" activity,
for example. 

Anja



From clay at claydoh.com  Sun Apr 29 15:20:45 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:20:45 -0400
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
Message-ID: <20250996.h3cXF3hJhs@lark-latitude-d630>




On Sunday, April 29, 2012 05:37:09 PM Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> Hi all.  Can anyone explain me what is the difference between the
> 'Activities' and 'virtual desktops'?  It seems quite the same for me and
> difficult to understand what is the value of using one against the other.
> Thanks. gk


Activities I find hard to describe, really.
Basically they are a group of , well, activities based more on widget 
selection, as you can have different widgets, backgrounds on each.

Then each Activity can have multiple "classic" virtual desktops.

An activity is basically a virtual desktop on a bit of steroids, if   you 
will. In KDE 4.8, power management is even integrated so that you can tailor 
screen power management based on them. 

I do not use virtual desktops myself, but do use activities. I created one 
with a plain, clean desktop. I have Calligra Words open there, and when I 
switch to my main desktop and turn off the Writer Mode activity, it saves what 
applications I have on it so they open when I turn it back on. I have used 
another one with a bunch of plasma widgets just for showing off :D.

They are not 100% perfect for me - I'd like an option to hide, customize or 
turn off the bottom panel/taskbar on an individual activity for a distraction 
and notification-free screen, for example. And they can be resource suckers for 
older systems, but that is offset by being able to turn them off and on as 
needed.

Of course, there is nothing keeping one from using the classic virtual desktop 
system.

-- 
Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net



From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Sun Apr 29 15:24:05 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:24:05 +0300
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
Message-ID: <1643146.ZQ68Fi7NAN@hamra>

On Sunday April 29 2012 17:37:09 Georgi Kourtev wrote:
> Hi all.  Can anyone explain me what is the difference between the
> 'Activities' and 'virtual desktops'?  It seems quite the same for me and
> difficult to understand what is the value of using one against the other.
> Thanks. gk
> 
> --
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very good question, i'm hoping for an explanation a well, never used 
activities, and don't know what they are :S
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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 15:39:58 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:39:58 +1000
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <2097004.yecreVlyQD@earthworm>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
	<2097004.yecreVlyQD@earthworm>
Message-ID: <1940721.n75Fu3DgOI@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 05:20:27 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> If virtual desktops are like swivelling around in your office chair and
> facing a different desk, activities are like going into an entirely
> different room with different tools and projects ready to be worked with.

Good Analogy - worthwhile putting that in the wiki.
-- 
Lindsay



From anj.tuesday at gmx.net  Sun Apr 29 18:36:15 2012
From: anj.tuesday at gmx.net (Anj Tuesday)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:36:15 +0200
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <1940721.n75Fu3DgOI@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
	<2097004.yecreVlyQD@earthworm>
	<1940721.n75Fu3DgOI@lindsay-kubuntu-12>
Message-ID: <1784377.If7HaDgZDO@earthworm>

Am Montag, 30. April 2012, 01:39:58 schrieb Lindsay Mathieson:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 05:20:27 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> > If virtual desktops are like swivelling around in your office chair and
> > facing a different desk, activities are like going into an entirely
> > different room with different tools and projects ready to be worked with.
> 
> Good Analogy - worthwhile putting that in the wiki.

Thanks!



From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 21:12:35 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:12:35 -0400
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <20250996.h3cXF3hJhs@lark-latitude-d630>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop>
	<20250996.h3cXF3hJhs@lark-latitude-d630>
Message-ID: <CA+N=XieNuwyd0Y41i1o0v-UASxJvZabnwW2Kb5eNuW03Zhf78Q@mail.gmail.com>

"Can be a resource suckers for older systems" - anyone have any way to
quantify this? How slow a CPU and/or minimum RAM for the activities to
become too sluggish?

On 29 April 2012 11:20, Clay Weber <clay at claydoh.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 29, 2012 05:37:09 PM Georgi Kourtev wrote:
>> Hi all.  Can anyone explain me what is the difference between the
>> 'Activities' and 'virtual desktops'?  It seems quite the same for me and
>> difficult to understand what is the value of using one against the other.
>> Thanks. gk
>
>
> Activities I find hard to describe, really.
> Basically they are a group of , well, activities based more on widget
> selection, as you can have different widgets, backgrounds on each.
>
> Then each Activity can have multiple "classic" virtual desktops.
>
> An activity is basically a virtual desktop on a bit of steroids, if   you
> will. In KDE 4.8, power management is even integrated so that you can tailor
> screen power management based on them.
>
> I do not use virtual desktops myself, but do use activities. I created one
> with a plain, clean desktop. I have Calligra Words open there, and when I
> switch to my main desktop and turn off the Writer Mode activity, it saves what
> applications I have on it so they open when I turn it back on. I have used
> another one with a bunch of plasma widgets just for showing off :D.
>
> They are not 100% perfect for me - I'd like an option to hide, customize or
> turn off the bottom panel/taskbar on an individual activity for a distraction
> and notification-free screen, for example. And they can be resource suckers for
> older systems, but that is offset by being able to turn them off and on as
> needed.
>
> Of course, there is nothing keeping one from using the classic virtual desktop
> system.
>
> --
> Clay Weber
> http://kubuntuforums.net
>
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From doc.evans at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 23:32:41 2012
From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:32:41 -0600
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <1643146.ZQ68Fi7NAN@hamra>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop> <1643146.ZQ68Fi7NAN@hamra>
Message-ID: <4F9DCF99.1070409@gmail.com>

Waleed Hamra said the following at 04/29/2012 09:24 AM :

> very good question, i'm hoping for an explanation a well, never used 
> activities, and don't know what they are :S

I used them for a while, and then at some point a Kubuntu upgrade caused all
of them except the default activity to disappear. Haven't bothered with them
since... I couldn't see any advantage to them in practice, they were buggy,
and then losing them during an upgrade was the last straw (although I have no
idea whether the fault for that was KDE's or Kubuntu's).

Sometimes it's hard for this user not to get the impression that swathes of
Kubuntu, or even KDE4 in general, are not intended for real work.

  Doc

-- 
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From rterry at pacific.net.au  Sun Apr 29 23:38:34 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:38:34 +1000
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
Message-ID: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>

I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.

Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.

Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.

searched the web, > no answers

?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.

Regards

richard



From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 29 23:46:15 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:46:15 -0400
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
In-Reply-To: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <CA+N=Xie4t92M8RBr8AvUoHgeFCBAoe3ZEbCqTw-U8oraGr2ZAw@mail.gmail.com>

Please pardon my ignorance but what is an "svn"?

Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
On Apr 29, 2012 7:39 PM, <rterry at pacific.net.au> wrote:

> I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.
>
> Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.
>
> Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.
>
> searched the web, > no answers
>
> ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.
>
> Regards
>
> richard
>
> --
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> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
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From paul at lemmons.name  Sun Apr 29 23:52:17 2012
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:52:17 -0700
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
In-Reply-To: <CA+N=Xie4t92M8RBr8AvUoHgeFCBAoe3ZEbCqTw-U8oraGr2ZAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
	<CA+N=Xie4t92M8RBr8AvUoHgeFCBAoe3ZEbCqTw-U8oraGr2ZAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+G4hn0jamJd4Qc+1ivD7CMXHJEZrmtetgt0dpLkdPbCkDp+FQ@mail.gmail.com>

It is a tool programmers (generally) use that manages change in source
code. A programmer can make changes in their code and "check it into"
svn (short for subversion). Later they can see what the program looked
like at all stages of development. It also lets more than one
programmer at a time work together on a program.

That is a *very* simplistic view of what it is. There are whole books
on how to use it.

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton
<lahc2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Please pardon my ignorance but what is an "svn"?
>
> Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
>
> On Apr 29, 2012 7:39 PM, <rterry at pacific.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.
>>
>> Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.
>>
>> Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.
>>
>> searched the web, > no answers
>>
>> ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> richard
>>
>> --
>> kubuntu-users mailing list
>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
>
>
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-- 
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little
security will deserve neither and lose both. --Benjamin Franklin



From lahc2007 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 00:03:36 2012
From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:03:36 -0400
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
In-Reply-To: <CA+G4hn0jamJd4Qc+1ivD7CMXHJEZrmtetgt0dpLkdPbCkDp+FQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
	<CA+N=Xie4t92M8RBr8AvUoHgeFCBAoe3ZEbCqTw-U8oraGr2ZAw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CA+G4hn0jamJd4Qc+1ivD7CMXHJEZrmtetgt0dpLkdPbCkDp+FQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+N=Xieqtz=7Fim+K92De-qkurbniQL0SE7hHcHcdzU7=HNFfA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you.

Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
On Apr 29, 2012 7:53 PM, "Paul Lemmons" <paul at lemmons.name> wrote:

> It is a tool programmers (generally) use that manages change in source
> code. A programmer can make changes in their code and "check it into"
> svn (short for subversion). Later they can see what the program looked
> like at all stages of development. It also lets more than one
> programmer at a time work together on a program.
>
> That is a *very* simplistic view of what it is. There are whole books
> on how to use it.
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton
> <lahc2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Please pardon my ignorance but what is an "svn"?
> >
> > Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
> >
> > On Apr 29, 2012 7:39 PM, <rterry at pacific.net.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.
> >>
> >> Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.
> >>
> >> Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.
> >>
> >> searched the web, > no answers
> >>
> >> ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> richard
> >>
> >> --
> >> kubuntu-users mailing list
> >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
> >
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> > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little
> security will deserve neither and lose both. --Benjamin Franklin
>
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From clay at claydoh.com  Mon Apr 30 00:20:36 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:20:36 -0400
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
In-Reply-To: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <1369009.KlYJJz996S@lark-latitude-d630>

On Monday, April 30, 2012 09:38:34 AM rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
> I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.
> 
> Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.
> 
> Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.
> 
> searched the web, > no answers
> 
> ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.
> 
> Regards
> 
> richard

Does it work from the command line?
If it does, you might need to poke around in your Wallet Manager (System 
Settings >> Account Details>>KDE Wallet) and see if there are any entries 
related to your svn account in there - probably  in a sub folder under "maps". 
You can try deleting any entries via the right-click menus, which may prompt 
you for the password again.

Clay Weber
http://kubuntuforums.net



From rtgkid at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 01:22:49 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:22:49 -0500
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <4F9DCF99.1070409@gmail.com>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop> <1643146.ZQ68Fi7NAN@hamra>
	<4F9DCF99.1070409@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9CB1C868-B388-4599-8C70-4BCD37E8C6F7@gmail.com>

I think Activities are better than virtual desktops.

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:32 PM, "D. R. Evans" <doc.evans at gmail.com> wrote:

> Waleed Hamra said the following at 04/29/2012 09:24 AM :
> 
>> very good question, i'm hoping for an explanation a well, never used 
>> activities, and don't know what they are :S
> 
> I used them for a while, and then at some point a Kubuntu upgrade caused all
> of them except the default activity to disappear. Haven't bothered with them
> since... I couldn't see any advantage to them in practice, they were buggy,
> and then losing them during an upgrade was the last straw (although I have no
> idea whether the fault for that was KDE's or Kubuntu's).
> 
> Sometimes it's hard for this user not to get the impression that swathes of
> Kubuntu, or even KDE4 in general, are not intended for real work.
> 
>  Doc
> 
> -- 
> Web:  http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR
> 
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 01:27:39 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:27:39 -0500
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
In-Reply-To: <CA+N=Xie4t92M8RBr8AvUoHgeFCBAoe3ZEbCqTw-U8oraGr2ZAw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
	<CA+N=Xie4t92M8RBr8AvUoHgeFCBAoe3ZEbCqTw-U8oraGr2ZAw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84FBF3EE-2B89-4818-AB3E-09AE0E6343DF@gmail.com>

Thar's alright - I am also wondering what it is! Ignorance loves company...

In Christ,
Ryan

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton <lahc2007 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Please pardon my ignorance but what is an "svn"?
> 
> Sent from my XOOM Android Tablet
> 
> On Apr 29, 2012 7:39 PM, <rterry at pacific.net.au> wrote:
> I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.
> 
> Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.
> 
> Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.
> 
> searched the web, > no answers
> 
> ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.
> 
> Regards
> 
> richard
> 
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From rterry at pacific.net.au  Mon Apr 30 01:35:09 2012
From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:35:09 +1000
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
In-Reply-To: <1369009.KlYJJz996S@lark-latitude-d630>
References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
	<1369009.KlYJJz996S@lark-latitude-d630>
Message-ID: <201204301135.09256.rterry@pacific.net.au>

On Monday 30 April 2012 10:20:36 Clay Weber wrote:
> On Monday, April 30, 2012 09:38:34 AM rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
> > I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.
> >
> > Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.
> >
> > Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.
> >
> > searched the web, > no answers
> >
> > ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > richard
> 
> Does it work from the command line?
- no, installed kdesvn - which just is a front end > same message.
> If it does, you might need to poke around in your Wallet Manager (System
> Settings >> Account Details>>KDE Wallet) and see if there are any entries
> related to your svn account in there - probably  in a sub folder under
>  "maps". You can try deleting any entries via the right-click menus, which
>  may prompt you for the password again.
Deleted the Kwallet entry for this, same result.

Mm............ annoying, may have to do an svn status and copy the files off to 
another computer - download a fresh svn and paste and update that way.

Any other thoughts appreciated.

Regards

richard

> 
> Clay Weber
> http://kubuntuforums.net
> 



From paul at lemmons.name  Mon Apr 30 02:44:19 2012
From: paul at lemmons.name (Paul Lemmons)
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:44:19 -0700
Subject: Activities vs. virtual desktops
In-Reply-To: <9CB1C868-B388-4599-8C70-4BCD37E8C6F7@gmail.com>
References: <13495525.1AgVkM27GQ@gkourtev-laptop> <1643146.ZQ68Fi7NAN@hamra>
	<4F9DCF99.1070409@gmail.com>
	<9CB1C868-B388-4599-8C70-4BCD37E8C6F7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+G4hn0ws7DUNEmqPzhkOU6tsYnYazcVVaDRpeVTLf0jiwTRrA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Activities are better than virtual desktops.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>

Not what I would call an answer to the OP's question but I guess it is
good to know that somebody likes them :)

The goal, I believe, in their creation, was to address those that have
sets of applications to perform specific jobs and the person has
multiple jobs. So if you are a photo editor and a book writer and an
accountant and a systems database administration when not writing php
code, activities may work for you. They let you Jekyll and Hyde your
different personae without one interfering with another; Each would be
represented by its own activity.

What I found was that I am not schizophrenic enough for them to be
very much use to me. I found that virtual desktops fit the way I work
much better. I like having all of my personae visible at all times
because I switch between them very often throughout the day. The
activities simply slowed me down because I would have to first switch
activities and then switch to the application I wanted to use. Using
virtual desktops I am able to simply go to the application right away.

They are both right and valuable but as with anything YMMV with either solution.

-- 
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little
security will deserve neither and lose both. --Benjamin Franklin



From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Mon Apr 30 03:46:02 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:46:02 +0300
Subject: Subversion and 12.04 LTS
In-Reply-To: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
References: <201204300938.34305.rterry@pacific.net.au>
Message-ID: <2536820.eO0HkfPFhf@hamra>

On Monday April 30 2012 09:38:34 rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
> I was runing the beta of this (2) and upgraded.
> 
> Now I can't commit my svn - comes up saying connection refused.
> 
> Previously KWallet would popup > asking for password.
> 
> searched the web, > no answers
> 
> ?anyone else noticed this ?how to fix.
> 
> Regards
> 
> richard
> 

connection refused? did you specify some custom port settings that might have 
been overwritten in the upgrade? or some proxy setting?

-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems
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From linux at appjaws.plus.com  Mon Apr 30 10:29:16 2012
From: linux at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:29:16 +0100
Subject: Great update experience to 12.04
Message-ID: <8003284.Y2I2YBlq1B@pc2>

Hi,
I just wish to thank all developers who produced this latest updat.  Although 
very slow downlods from the servers, the actual update went without a hitch.  
Well done to all.

However, I do have one problem. I have a button on the task bar "Update 
Information - KDE Daemon" If I click this I get a large black strip across the 
centre of my screen.  That's it just a strip.

Any ideas?
Paul



From moptop99 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 10:44:15 2012
From: moptop99 at gmail.com (Matt Price)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:44:15 -0400
Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings
Message-ID: <CAN_Dec_mXu5GgzpzqqBTK0Qwc+SWWHP6-4qV50uQxtpRx7rhBA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm a longtime ubuntu user finally driven to KDE by Unity.  I'm slowly
finding my feet and am quite excited about the Activities feature of
KDE. I understand I ought to be able to name activities and set other
features of them in the desktop settings screen under "activities" but
my "Desktop Settings" screen is actually quite bare, showing only
"view" and "mouse".  I installed kubuntu using "apt-get install
kubuntu-desktop" but I suspect I'm missing some packages or something.

 I've filed a bug but wonder if this is a silly user error better
addressed on a mailing list; there's a screenshot attached to the bug,
here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/991859/+attachment/3120107/+files/desktopsetting_noact.png

Appreciate  any help! Thanks,
Matt



From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 11:23:34 2012
From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:23:34 +1000
Subject: Great update experience to 12.04
In-Reply-To: <8003284.Y2I2YBlq1B@pc2>
References: <8003284.Y2I2YBlq1B@pc2>
Message-ID: <89054338.D87El19dp8@lindsay-kubuntu-12>

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:29:16 AM Paul Stear wrote:
> However, I do have one problem. I have a button on the task bar "Update 
> Information - KDE Daemon" If I click this I get a large black strip across
> the  centre of my screen.  That's it just a strip.

I got that, one its an issue with bad data in the update notifier:

http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58340-Yellow-light-bulb-icon-Bug-
light&p=295264&viewfull=1#post295264


To clear it:

sudo rm /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/data-downloads-failed
sudo rm /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/data-downloads-failed-permanently 

-- 
Lindsay



From clay at claydoh.com  Mon Apr 30 14:28:36 2012
From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:28:36 -0400
Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Dec_mXu5GgzpzqqBTK0Qwc+SWWHP6-4qV50uQxtpRx7rhBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN_Dec_mXu5GgzpzqqBTK0Qwc+SWWHP6-4qV50uQxtpRx7rhBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3400166.FOLZCY3DY6@lark-latitude-d630>

On Monday, April 30, 2012 06:44:15 AM Matt Price wrote:
> I'm a longtime ubuntu user finally driven to KDE by Unity.  I'm slowly
> finding my feet and am quite excited about the Activities feature of
> KDE. I understand I ought to be able to name activities and set other
> features of them in the desktop settings screen under "activities" but
> my "Desktop Settings" screen is actually quite bare, showing only
> "view" and "mouse".  I installed kubuntu using "apt-get install
> kubuntu-desktop" but I suspect I'm missing some packages or something.
> 
>  I've filed a bug but wonder if this is a silly user error better
> addressed on a mailing list; there's a screenshot attached to the bug,
> here:
> 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/991859/+attachment/31
> 20107/+files/desktopsetting_noact.png
> 
> Appreciate  any help! Thanks,
> Matt

Click the "cashew" thing up in the corner of your desktop and use that to open 
the Actiity list, there you can click the wrench on any to edit the name and 
icon.

-- 
clay



From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl  Mon Apr 30 20:58:12 2012
From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:58:12 +0200
Subject: Why ati cards doesn't work????????
Message-ID: <BLU163-W78D02E4C379A7044EC98FCC280@phx.gbl>


Hello,

First i tried Kubuntu, now Ubuntu and why is it so difficult to get a normal screen?????
I think i'm going back to that virus sensitive Windhoos.
Why is there a black screen after a update in 12.04 and only stupid 800x600 on a s-video connection?
I think that Linux isn't groing up to people who want to try it.

Greets Dennis
 		 	   		  
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From tr13dg3001 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 21:34:30 2012
From: tr13dg3001 at gmail.com (Carter Hollingsworth)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:34:30 -0700
Subject: Why ati cards doesn't work????????
In-Reply-To: <BLU163-W78D02E4C379A7044EC98FCC280@phx.gbl>
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Most of it, in my experience, has to do with the proprietary drivers
ATi/AMD cards use.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Dennis Linux <frankie-1 at hotmail.nl> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> First i tried Kubuntu, now Ubuntu and why is it so difficult to get a
> normal screen?????
> I think i'm going back to that virus sensitive Windhoos.
> Why is there a black screen after a update in 12.04 and only stupid
> 800x600 on a s-video connection?
> I think that Linux isn't groing up to people who want to try it.
>
> Greets Dennis
>
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> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 22:44:17 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:44:17 -0500
Subject: Why ati cards doesn't work????????
In-Reply-To: <CAK1xv087sZE1dkby3a5Eq4JiBeTNaVhiB3eQ=9zYECk8Q7YLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAK1xv087sZE1dkby3a5Eq4JiBeTNaVhiB3eQ=9zYECk8Q7YLsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7AB322C2-8D95-4433-9237-9539B9E7ECCF@gmail.com>

Is this a graphical problem or a software problem? Does the screen looked weird, or does this appear to be a software-related issue? Thanks!

In Christ,
Ryan

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 30, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Carter Hollingsworth <tr13dg3001 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Most of it, in my experience, has to do with the proprietary drivers ATi/AMD cards use. 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Dennis Linux <frankie-1 at hotmail.nl> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> First i tried Kubuntu, now Ubuntu and why is it so difficult to get a normal screen?????
> I think i'm going back to that virus sensitive Windhoos.
> Why is there a black screen after a update in 12.04 and only stupid 800x600 on a s-video connection?
> I think that Linux isn't groing up to people who want to try it.
> 
> Greets Dennis
> 
> --
> kubuntu-users mailing list
> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
> 
> 
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From rtgkid at gmail.com  Mon Apr 30 22:54:44 2012
From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:54:44 -0500
Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Dec_mXu5GgzpzqqBTK0Qwc+SWWHP6-4qV50uQxtpRx7rhBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAN_Dec_mXu5GgzpzqqBTK0Qwc+SWWHP6-4qV50uQxtpRx7rhBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A0502AFE-74AA-4C54-A577-A797C700ACCE@gmail.com>

Welcome to KDE! IMHO, KDE actually looks as slick as Mac OS X. This may be a bug. In Kubuntu/KDE, you will not file bugs using Launchpad. Instead, you will be using a different online service, in which the name escapes me for the moment. Thanks!

In Christ,
Ryan

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Matt Price <moptop99 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm a longtime ubuntu user finally driven to KDE by Unity.  I'm slowly
> finding my feet and am quite excited about the Activities feature of
> KDE. I understand I ought to be able to name activities and set other
> features of them in the desktop settings screen under "activities" but
> my "Desktop Settings" screen is actually quite bare, showing only
> "view" and "mouse".  I installed kubuntu using "apt-get install
> kubuntu-desktop" but I suspect I'm missing some packages or something.
> 
> I've filed a bug but wonder if this is a silly user error better
> addressed on a mailing list; there's a screenshot attached to the bug,
> here:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/991859/+attachment/3120107/+files/desktopsetting_noact.png
> 
> Appreciate  any help! Thanks,
> Matt
> 
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From kubuntu-users at whamra.com  Mon Apr 30 23:11:01 2012
From: kubuntu-users at whamra.com (Waleed Hamra)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 02:11:01 +0300
Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings
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	<A0502AFE-74AA-4C54-A577-A797C700ACCE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F9F1C05.2070707@whamra.com>

On 05/01/2012 01:54 AM, Ryan Gauger wrote:
> Welcome to KDE! IMHO, KDE actually looks as slick as Mac OS X. This may be a bug. In Kubuntu/KDE, you will not file bugs using Launchpad. Instead, you will be using a different online service, in which the name escapes me for the moment. Thanks!
> 
> In Christ,
> Ryan
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:44 AM, Matt Price <moptop99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm a longtime ubuntu user finally driven to KDE by Unity.  I'm slowly
>> finding my feet and am quite excited about the Activities feature of
>> KDE. I understand I ought to be able to name activities and set other
>> features of them in the desktop settings screen under "activities" but
>> my "Desktop Settings" screen is actually quite bare, showing only
>> "view" and "mouse".  I installed kubuntu using "apt-get install
>> kubuntu-desktop" but I suspect I'm missing some packages or something.
>>
>> I've filed a bug but wonder if this is a silly user error better
>> addressed on a mailing list; there's a screenshot attached to the bug,
>> here:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/991859/+attachment/3120107/+files/desktopsetting_noact.png
>>
>> Appreciate  any help! Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>> -- 
>> kubuntu-users mailing list
>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
> 

the KDE bug tracker:

https://bugs.kde.org/

-- 
Waleed K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems

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From fayaz at dexetra.com  Mon Apr 30 13:11:19 2012
From: fayaz at dexetra.com (Fayaz Yusuf Khan)
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:41:19 +0530
Subject: can't rename activities/no activiities settings
References: <CAN_Dec_mXu5GgzpzqqBTK0Qwc+SWWHP6-4qV50uQxtpRx7rhBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <jnm31n$3q0$1@dough.gmane.org>

Matt Price wrote:

> I'm a longtime ubuntu user finally driven to KDE by Unity.  I'm slowly
> finding my feet and am quite excited about the Activities feature of
> KDE. I understand I ought to be able to name activities and set other
> features of them in the desktop settings screen under "activities" but
> my "Desktop Settings" screen is actually quite bare, showing only
> "view" and "mouse".
You're looking in the wrong place. Try the button at the top-right corner of 
your desktop. Or press Meta+Q.
-- 
Cloud architect and hacker, Dexetra, India
fayaz.yusuf.khan_AT_gmail_DOT_com
fayaz_AT_dexetra_DOT_com
+91-9746-830-823