From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 19:42:32 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:42:32 +0200 Subject: 4.9.4 ?? Message-ID: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> Noticed today that I have hundreds of updates in line stating they are version 4.9.4 - this on Kubuntu 12.10 with kubuntu-updates ppa enabled. Have I missed some announcements while I was offline over the weekend?? Or is Kubuntu ahead of KDE in packaging? Kind regards Sinclair From kaj at haulrich.net Tue Dec 4 20:12:02 2012 From: kaj at haulrich.net (Kaj Haulrich) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:12:02 +0100 Subject: 4.9.4 ?? In-Reply-To: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> References: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50BE5912.5040900@haulrich.net> On 12/04/2012 08:42 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Noticed today that I have hundreds of updates in line stating they are > version 4.9.4 - this on Kubuntu 12.10 with kubuntu-updates ppa enabled. > > Have I missed some announcements while I was offline over the weekend?? > Or is Kubuntu ahead of KDE in packaging? > > Kind regards > Sinclair > Contemprary KDE is version 4.9.80 here on my box. Regards, Kaj Haulrich. -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer--- --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 13.04 --------- From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 20:32:54 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:32:54 +1000 Subject: 4.9.4 ?? In-Reply-To: <50BE5912.5040900@haulrich.net> References: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> <50BE5912.5040900@haulrich.net> Message-ID: <2260150.a0R6jtVSZ7@lindsay-quantal> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 09:12:02 PM Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Contemprary KDE is version 4.9.80 here on my box. Thats 4.10 Beta 1 Didn't expect to see it on the 12.10 updates ppa -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 03:51:08 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:51:08 +1000 Subject: 4.9.4 ?? In-Reply-To: <2260150.a0R6jtVSZ7@lindsay-quantal> References: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> <50BE5912.5040900@haulrich.net> <2260150.a0R6jtVSZ7@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: My box only updated to 4.9.4 -- Lindsay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From myriam at kde.org Wed Dec 5 12:52:47 2012 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:52:47 +0100 Subject: 4.9.4 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> <50BE5912.5040900@haulrich.net> <2260150.a0R6jtVSZ7@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > My box only updated to 4.9.4 Because there is no beta for 12.10 Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From o.sinclair at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 13:26:54 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:26:54 +0200 Subject: 4.9.4 ?? In-Reply-To: References: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> <50BE5912.5040900@haulrich.net> <2260150.a0R6jtVSZ7@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <50BF4B9E.3070705@gmail.com> On 05/12/2012 14:52, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Lindsay Mathieson > wrote: >> My box only updated to 4.9.4 > I now see that Kubuntu has issued a release statment on Kubuntu.org website as well as on KDE website. It came after the packages was already in the ppa, that is what surprised me. I guess the 4.10 just might end up in backports-ppa for 12.04 but no guarantees. Any beta should be found in kubuntu-beta ppa (if that is still used?). Kind regards, Sinclair From clay at claydoh.com Wed Dec 5 15:20:54 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:20:54 -0500 Subject: 4.9.4 ?? In-Reply-To: <50BF4B9E.3070705@gmail.com> References: <50BE5228.6060106@gmail.com> <50BF4B9E.3070705@gmail.com> Message-ID: <12905071.ZQYd4KIut3@lark-latitude-d630> On Wednesday, December 05, 2012 03:26:54 PM O. Sinclair wrote: > On 05/12/2012 14:52, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Lindsay Mathieson > > > > wrote: > >> My box only updated to 4.9.4 > > I now see that Kubuntu has issued a release statment on Kubuntu.org > website as well as on KDE website. It came after the packages was > already in the ppa, that is what surprised me. > > I guess the 4.10 just might end up in backports-ppa for 12.04 but no > guarantees. Any beta should be found in kubuntu-beta ppa (if that is > still used?). > > Kind regards, > Sinclair Yes that is correct, you will find betas for the next major KDE there when/if they are packaged, for 12.10, but not 12.04. -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://claydoh.com http://kubuntuforums.net From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 10:32:55 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:32:55 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 Message-ID: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> Doing it right now via "do-release-upgrade -d", should be interesting :) Was bored with my stable system anyway ... -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sat Dec 8 20:54:10 2012 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 15:54:10 -0500 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <1490016.4vKy5jjLXX@kirk> How did it go? I'm wondering if you got cursed and are living in interesting times. Alan On Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:32:55 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Doing it right now via "do-release-upgrade -d", should be interesting :) > > Was bored with my stable system anyway ... > From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 21:18:11 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 07:18:11 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <1490016.4vKy5jjLXX@kirk> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <1490016.4vKy5jjLXX@kirk> Message-ID: <2030654.Ckh1LvkT7Z@lindsay-quantal> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 03:54:10 PM Alan Dacey wrote: > How did it go? I'm wondering if you got cursed and are living in > interesting times. It went exceptionally smoothly! one of the smoother dist upgrades I've done, considering I started at 11pm much better than I deserved. About 800mb download, no clashes and I'm at 13.04 and KDe 4.9.80 (Beta 1) As slick as ever. One improvement that stands out - Kontact/Akonadi. I had it working more or less ok in 4.9 but I was plagued by occasional CPU spikes and on logon it hog several cores for 10-15 minutes. Knock on wood but it seems to be a thing of the past. I logon, there the usual spkie of stuff starting up and then I'm down to nominal activity. Going to start testing mail searches next. -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sat Dec 8 21:56:52 2012 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 16:56:52 -0500 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <2030654.Ckh1LvkT7Z@lindsay-quantal> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <1490016.4vKy5jjLXX@kirk> <2030654.Ckh1LvkT7Z@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <4220458.0cbbmajx81@kirk> Good to hear! Are your filters still working in kmail? Mine seem to break now and then of just don't work autmatically for no apparent reason. Alan On Sunday, December 09, 2012 7:18:11 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 03:54:10 PM Alan Dacey wrote: > > How did it go? I'm wondering if you got cursed and are living in > > interesting times. > > It went exceptionally smoothly! one of the smoother dist upgrades I've done, > considering I started at 11pm much better than I deserved. > > About 800mb download, no clashes and I'm at 13.04 and KDe 4.9.80 (Beta 1) > > As slick as ever. One improvement that stands out - Kontact/Akonadi. I had it > working more or less ok in 4.9 but I was plagued by occasional CPU spikes and > on logon it hog several cores for 10-15 minutes. Knock on wood but it seems to > be a thing of the past. I logon, there the usual spkie of stuff starting up > and then I'm down to nominal activity. > > Going to start testing mail searches next. > From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 22:17:41 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 08:17:41 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <4220458.0cbbmajx81@kirk> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <2030654.Ckh1LvkT7Z@lindsay-quantal> <4220458.0cbbmajx81@kirk> Message-ID: <11026167.XdEzu0tsON@lindsay-quantal> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 04:56:52 PM Alan Dacey wrote: > Are your filters still working in kmail? Mine seem to break now and then of > just don't work autmatically for no apparent reason. Can't answer that I'm afraid. All my filters are server side via Gmail. Searching seems to be working well now. My test searches on content and attributes were fast, correct and didn't hog the CPU. Still getting that "Can not get search result. Only resources can modify remote identifiers" error when reusing the find dialog, have to close it and start a new search. -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Dec 8 22:18:02 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:18:02 -0500 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <2030654.Ckh1LvkT7Z@lindsay-quantal> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <1490016.4vKy5jjLXX@kirk> <2030654.Ckh1LvkT7Z@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <10760517.T47sdUIKzE@linux1> On Sunday, December 09, 2012 07:18:11 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 03:54:10 PM Alan Dacey wrote: > > How did it go? I'm wondering if you got cursed and are living in > > interesting times. > > It went exceptionally smoothly! one of the smoother dist upgrades I've done, > considering I started at 11pm much better than I deserved. > > About 800mb download, no clashes and I'm at 13.04 and KDe 4.9.80 (Beta 1) > > As slick as ever. One improvement that stands out - Kontact/Akonadi. I had > it working more or less ok in 4.9 but I was plagued by occasional CPU > spikes and on logon it hog several cores for 10-15 minutes. Knock on wood > but it seems to be a thing of the past. I logon, there the usual spkie of > stuff starting up and then I'm down to nominal activity. > > Going to start testing mail searches next. Were your mail searches working before the upgrade? Searches don't work here on 12.10 and I miss the ability. If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons. -James Thurber From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 8 22:32:48 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 08:32:48 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <10760517.T47sdUIKzE@linux1> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <2030654.Ckh1LvkT7Z@lindsay-quantal> <10760517.T47sdUIKzE@linux1> Message-ID: <2955575.1cmLkn7M5c@lindsay-quantal> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 05:18:02 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > Were your mail searches working before the upgrade? > > Searches don't work here on 12.10 and I miss the ability. Erratically. And they hogged so much CPU I never used them. In 4.8/4.9 I think problems with the quality of the data in the search index was the problem with searches, which was why deleting the akonadi cache and letting it reindex was a common solution. I can't remember if it was in 4.9, but in 4.10 in individual folder properties there is a maintanance tab with a "Force reindexing" option. When I was testing "Search for unread" status I had a few messages obviously indexed with the wrong status. I forced a reindex and it. a. Worked b. CPU usage did rise, but only to 30% of a core c. Completed very quickly I have 12,000+ msgs in my inbox, it only took a minute. However the folder properties dialog is *very* slow to appear, I suspect its querying my imap server first. Maybe it would be quicker for a POP setup. Very encouraged so far. -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sat Dec 8 23:51:26 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:51:26 -0500 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <2955575.1cmLkn7M5c@lindsay-quantal> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <10760517.T47sdUIKzE@linux1> <2955575.1cmLkn7M5c@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <1928509.QuquFUyhFf@linux1> On Sunday, December 09, 2012 08:32:48 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 05:18:02 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > > Were your mail searches working before the upgrade? > > > > Searches don't work here on 12.10 and I miss the ability. > > Erratically. And they hogged so much CPU I never used them. > I never get past the message: Can not get search result. Unable to create persistent search I am contemplating starting a new user and thus starting the KDE and Kmail setup from scratch. The search works on my wife's machine - most likely because I waited through several releases to update her machine. When I first switched to Kmail2, the migration didn't work and I did most of it manually and there lies (I think) the root of my problem. Starting a whole new user - after xx years (12?) of using KDE is probably worth the effort. "Lend money to a bad debtor and he will hate you." From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 00:03:28 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:03:28 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <1928509.QuquFUyhFf@linux1> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <2955575.1cmLkn7M5c@lindsay-quantal> <1928509.QuquFUyhFf@linux1> Message-ID: <3145656.6j0FKGcAB0@lindsay-quantal> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 06:51:26 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > I am contemplating starting a new user and thus starting the KDE and Kmail > setup from scratch. Its a good idea. At least on linux its easy to do that. 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From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 02:03:59 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:03:59 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <2261115.ocZ8o4DDvC@linux1> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <3145656.6j0FKGcAB0@lindsay-quantal> <2261115.ocZ8o4DDvC@linux1> Message-ID: <2973853.uOroM2fgTg@lindsay-quantal> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:59:29 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > > Is your email on IMAP? > > No Ah, so fresh start means losing your email history -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 9 02:25:32 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:25:32 -0500 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <2973853.uOroM2fgTg@lindsay-quantal> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <2261115.ocZ8o4DDvC@linux1> <2973853.uOroM2fgTg@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <1404878.yMbCIrfsak@linux1> On Sunday, December 09, 2012 12:03:59 PM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:59:29 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > > > Is your email on IMAP? > > > > No > > Ah, so fresh start means losing your email history Not so.... I had a failure of Kmail2 with 12.10 (forgot what) and I ended up saving my .local/share/.local-xxxxxx mail files and then moving them back to Kmail2. I believe that once I got a new user set up, and added in all the various folders I have, that I would be able to move the old mail into the folders without a problem. And if not, just a bit of wasted time and I give up moving to a new user. "186,000 miles per second: It isn't just a good idea, it's the law!" From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 02:59:42 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:59:42 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <1404878.yMbCIrfsak@linux1> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <2973853.uOroM2fgTg@lindsay-quantal> <1404878.yMbCIrfsak@linux1> Message-ID: <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:25:32 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > I would be able to move the old mail into the folders > without a problem. And if not, just a bit of wasted time and I give up > moving to a new user. Good luck -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Sun Dec 9 07:15:03 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 08:15:03 +0100 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <2973853.uOroM2fgTg@lindsay-quantal> <1404878.yMbCIrfsak@linux1> <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> Message-ID: <50C43A77.4010207@free.fr> Le 09/12/2012 03:59, Lindsay Mathieson a écrit : > On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:25:32 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: >> I would be able to move the old mail into the folders >> without a problem. And if not, just a bit of wasted time and I give up >> moving to a new user. > Good luck > > Be carefull : kernel 3.7.xx doesn't work , apparently on AMD core 3 and more. I have tw0 pc with 3 core sempr0n and AMD64, the first doesn't boot and the second works fine... a bug ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valtermura at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 17:22:09 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:22:09 +0100 Subject: HDMI Output/Input not selected by default Message-ID: <23365715.j0gdBlz8GH@valter-desktop> Hi All Scenario: - Video card Nvidia with HDMI output; - Monitor HDMI (correctly detected, Benq GL2450HM) - Two connections (I suppose needed): D-Sub (VGA) and HDMI Kubuntu 12.10 updated / KDE 4.9.4 I select the Output in HDMI mode in the system (unifying the modes, choosing the HDMI as principal and pushing the "apply" button) and Auto select in the monitor. When I turn on the computer the system sets the monitor in D-Sub mode and not in HDMI, and I have to set again the HDMI mode. Any hint? TIA, regards, -- Valter Open Source is better! KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From valtermura at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 17:27:09 2012 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:27:09 +0100 Subject: Address autocompletion still not working in Kmail 4.9.4 Message-ID: <7835172.yjd2bCNbdF@valter-desktop> Hi All the address autocompletion is still not working for me with Kmail 4.9.4, with the akonadi-google plugin. Someone has solved the problem? Tia, regards, -- Valter Open Source is better! KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 18:52:33 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:52:33 +0000 Subject: Screensavers Kubuntu 12.10 KDE 4.10 beta Message-ID: <10508142.drniApdRrE@rachael> I upgraded to the beta of KDE 4.10 in Kubuntu 12.10 earlier today and ever since I've had problems with the screen saver. Even though I have configured it to not lock the screen when going to the screen saver, it still comes up. The password box seems to be displayed before the screen saver is activated, plus if I move the mouse just after the screen saver comes up I get a crash notifier. Is anyone else seeing this? From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 19:39:11 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 05:39:11 +1000 Subject: HDMI Output/Input not selected by default In-Reply-To: <23365715.j0gdBlz8GH@valter-desktop> References: <23365715.j0gdBlz8GH@valter-desktop> Message-ID: <2322666.WDmpZgvIMb@lindsay-quantal> On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 06:22:09 PM Valter Mura wrote: > When I turn on the computer the system sets the monitor in D-Sub mode and > not in HDMI, and I have to set again the HDMI mode. In KRandTray, after you click apply, click "Save As Default" -- Lindsay Mathieson -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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First impressions, very good :) Mark On Sunday 09 Dec 2012 08:15:03 Girard Henri wrote: Le 09/12/2012 03:59, Lindsay Mathieson a écrit : On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:25:32 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: I would be able to move the old mail into the folders without a problem. And if not, just a bit of wasted time and I give up moving to a new user. Good luck Be carefull : kernel 3.7.xx doesn't work , apparently on AMD core 3 and more. I have tw0 pc with 3 core sempr0n and AMD64, the first doesn't boot and the second works fine... a bug ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 01:38:38 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:38:38 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <1841944.xn2j8O0g4r@spike> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> <50C43A77.4010207@free.fr> <1841944.xn2j8O0g4r@spike> Message-ID: On 11 December 2012 10:38, Mark Greenwood wrote: > ** > > Well you inspired me to try as well. > > > > My advice is - if you use nvidia drivers, don't upgrade yet. It took me > some time and a lot of Googlefu to sort out the mess the upgrade made. But > it is a known bug, and it's definitely to do with the nvidia drivers. I can > explain what I had to do, but it's late and it's far too dull to recount in > detail unless somebody needs me to :) > Interesting, I have Nvidia drivers (the binary blob), using a 220 which is fairly old now, didn't run into any problems. What happened with yours? link to the bug? In other news, 4.9.90 appears to have hit the repos. > > > Now I've sorted it out, my system appears to be running like lightning. > First impressions, very good :) > I'm really *really* happy with it. Yet another Kubuntu release that has big improvements on the previous. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Tue Dec 11 08:13:50 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:13:50 +0100 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <1841944.xn2j8O0g4r@spike> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> <50C43A77.4010207@free.fr> <1841944.xn2j8O0g4r@spike> Message-ID: <50C6EB3E.8080200@free.fr> Would be good to overpass this 3.7 problem if one knows how too ! Le 11/12/2012 01:38, Mark Greenwood a écrit : > > Well you inspired me to try as well. > > My advice is - if you use nvidia drivers, don't upgrade yet. It took > me some time and a lot of Googlefu to sort out the mess the upgrade > made. But it is a known bug, and it's definitely to do with the nvidia > drivers. I can explain what I had to do, but it's late and it's far > too dull to recount in detail unless somebody needs me to :) > > Now I've sorted it out, my system appears to be running like > lightning. First impressions, very good :) > > Mark > > On Sunday 09 Dec 2012 08:15:03 Girard Henri wrote: > > Le 09/12/2012 03:59, Lindsay Mathieson a écrit : > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:25:32 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > I would be able to move the old mail into the folders > without a problem. And if not, just a bit of wasted time and I give up > moving to a new user. > Good luck > > Be carefull : kernel 3.7.xx doesn't work , apparently on AMD core 3 > and more. I have tw0 pc with 3 core sempr0n and AMD64, the first > doesn't boot and the second works fine... a bug ? > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Tue Dec 11 08:16:44 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:16:44 +0100 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> <50C43A77.4010207@free.fr> <1841944.xn2j8O0g4r@spike> Message-ID: <50C6EBEC.3090301@free.fr> I am not sure it's a nvidia driver problem I am have 220 too. On gf7220 and aamd64 it works like a charm ... When I boot on 3.7.xx after usb detection it bloks : I must restart with power button. Le 11/12/2012 02:38, Lindsay Mathieson a écrit : > On 11 December 2012 10:38, Mark Greenwood > wrote: > > Well you inspired me to try as well. > > My advice is - if you use nvidia drivers, don't upgrade yet. It > took me some time and a lot of Googlefu to sort out the mess the > upgrade made. But it is a known bug, and it's definitely to do > with the nvidia drivers. I can explain what I had to do, but it's > late and it's far too dull to recount in detail unless somebody > needs me to :) > > > > Interesting, I have Nvidia drivers (the binary blob), using a 220 > which is fairly old now, didn't run into any problems. What happened > with yours? link to the bug? > > In other news, 4.9.90 appears to have hit the repos. > > > Now I've sorted it out, my system appears to be running like > lightning. First impressions, very good :) > > > > I'm really *really* happy with it. Yet another Kubuntu release that > has big improvements on the previous. > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anything from > user perspective that is worth much so one should upgrade next year? I > read few things, but do not see any real difference. Your view is > appreciated. Thanks. > > gk > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 11:32:49 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:32:49 +0000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <50C6EB3E.8080200@free.fr> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> <50C43A77.4010207@free.fr> <1841944.xn2j8O0g4r@spike> <50C6EB3E.8080200@free.fr> Message-ID: <50C719E1.9000807@gmail.com> On 11/12/12 08:13, Girard Henri wrote: > Would be good to overpass this 3.7 problem if one knows how too ! OK it's a problem with the building of the initramfs when you do a kernel upgrade. It's not a bug with the nvidia drivers, but having them installed shows it up. When I upgraded I got errors at the end. I forget the exact wording but it was something to do with _BUILTIN_, I recall. The simplest solution would be to uninstall the nvidia drivers before upgrading and then reinstall them afterwards. However what I did was: In /etc/modprobe.d there are two files that begin with nvidia- (one is nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf, the other name depends on which version of the drivers you have installed). Rename both of these so the extension is not '.conf' (I changed them to .notconf). Run 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k all' Rename the two files back again. Reboot. You'll probably now find that you are running with the nouveau driver, even though it has been explicitly blacklisted in those two files. Odd one that. Removing and reinstalling the nvidia driver cured that for me. The problem, from what I read, seems to be that those two files contain 'alias nouveau off', and this seems to make upgrade-initramfs fail. Note that you'll probably have to go through this routine every time you upgrade the kernel, until the bug is fixed. Mark > > Le 11/12/2012 01:38, Mark Greenwood a écrit : >> >> Well you inspired me to try as well. >> >> My advice is - if you use nvidia drivers, don't upgrade yet. It took >> me some time and a lot of Googlefu to sort out the mess the upgrade >> made. But it is a known bug, and it's definitely to do with the >> nvidia drivers. I can explain what I had to do, but it's late and >> it's far too dull to recount in detail unless somebody needs me to :) >> >> Now I've sorted it out, my system appears to be running like >> lightning. First impressions, very good :) >> >> Mark >> >> On Sunday 09 Dec 2012 08:15:03 Girard Henri wrote: >> >> Le 09/12/2012 03:59, Lindsay Mathieson a écrit : >> >> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:25:32 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: >> I would be able to move the old mail into the folders >> without a problem. And if not, just a bit of wasted time and I give up >> moving to a new user. >> Good luck >> >> Be carefull : kernel 3.7.xx doesn't work , apparently on AMD core 3 >> and more. I have tw0 pc with 3 core sempr0n and AMD64, the first >> doesn't boot and the second works fine... a bug ? >> >> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 12:15:59 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:15:59 +1000 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <38723315.pk7zonpeCv@gkourtev-laptop> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <38723315.pk7zonpeCv@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <2318682.4UoCj2qEnu@lindsay-quantal> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:23:13 AM you wrote: > What are the key advantages for 13.04 compared to 12.04? 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URL: From girardhenri at free.fr Tue Dec 11 13:51:43 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:51:43 +0100 Subject: Upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 Alpha 1 In-Reply-To: <50C719E1.9000807@gmail.com> References: <3047319.rqu78ZTUTu@lindsay-quantal> <7134015.sL9rOugkvQ@lindsay-quantal> <50C43A77.4010207@free.fr> <1841944.xn2j8O0g4r@spike> <50C6EB3E.8080200@free.fr> <50C719E1.9000807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50C73A6F.6090107@free.fr> Thanks for explanations I desinstalled kernel 3.7xx and works with 3.5.xx If it's too long they solve the problems I will put my hands in it ! Two years ago I had same problem with intel core 2 and ATI... Le 11/12/2012 12:32, Mark Greenwood a écrit : > On 11/12/12 08:13, Girard Henri wrote: >> Would be good to overpass this 3.7 problem if one knows how too ! > OK it's a problem with the building of the initramfs when you do a > kernel upgrade. It's not a bug with the nvidia drivers, but having > them installed shows it up. > > When I upgraded I got errors at the end. I forget the exact wording > but it was something to do with _BUILTIN_, I recall. > > The simplest solution would be to uninstall the nvidia drivers before > upgrading and then reinstall them afterwards. However what I did was: > > In /etc/modprobe.d there are two files that begin with nvidia- (one is > nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf, the other name depends on which version > of the drivers you have installed). Rename both of these so the > extension is not '.conf' (I changed them to .notconf). > Run 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k all' > Rename the two files back again. > Reboot. > You'll probably now find that you are running with the nouveau driver, > even though it has been explicitly blacklisted in those two files. Odd > one that. Removing and reinstalling the nvidia driver cured that for me. > > The problem, from what I read, seems to be that those two files > contain 'alias nouveau off', and this seems to make upgrade-initramfs > fail. > > Note that you'll probably have to go through this routine every time > you upgrade the kernel, until the bug is fixed. > > Mark > > > >> >> Le 11/12/2012 01:38, Mark Greenwood a écrit : >>> >>> Well you inspired me to try as well. >>> >>> My advice is - if you use nvidia drivers, don't upgrade yet. It took >>> me some time and a lot of Googlefu to sort out the mess the upgrade >>> made. But it is a known bug, and it's definitely to do with the >>> nvidia drivers. I can explain what I had to do, but it's late and >>> it's far too dull to recount in detail unless somebody needs me to :) >>> >>> Now I've sorted it out, my system appears to be running like >>> lightning. First impressions, very good :) >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Sunday 09 Dec 2012 08:15:03 Girard Henri wrote: >>> >>> Le 09/12/2012 03:59, Lindsay Mathieson a écrit : >>> >>> On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 09:25:32 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: >>> I would be able to move the old mail into the folders >>> without a problem. And if not, just a bit of wasted time and I give up >>> moving to a new user. >>> Good luck >>> >>> Be carefull : kernel 3.7.xx doesn't work , apparently on AMD core 3 >>> and more. I have tw0 pc with 3 core sempr0n and AMD64, the first >>> doesn't boot and the second works fine... a bug ? >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ca.grajesh at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 02:51:09 2012 From: ca.grajesh at gmail.com (CA G Rajesh) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:21:09 +0530 Subject: Address autocompletion still not working in Kmail 4.9.4 References: <7835172.yjd2bCNbdF@valter-desktop> Message-ID: <50cbe5a1.09f8440a.398b.3f7b@mx.google.com> Hi Valter, Please check this out: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=8271 Hope it solves your problem, as it did to me. Regards, Rajesh Valter Mura wrote: > Hi All > > the address autocompletion is still not working for me with Kmail 4.9.4, > with the akonadi-google plugin. > > Someone has solved the problem? > > Tia, regards, -- CA G Rajesh, BSc,FCA,DISA(ICAI), Chartered Accountant, 'Lakshmi Nilayam' 115 Malligai Street, Ram Nagar, Dindigul-624 005, Tamil Nadu, India. Phone: +91 451 2424104 Mobile: +91 99941 83183 From oub at mat.ucm.es Mon Dec 17 22:00:45 2012 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:00:45 +0100 Subject: 10.04 recovery mode problem with the keys Message-ID: <876240e3ua.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Hello I just wanted to repair a problem in my old Kubuntu 10.04 version. I selected recovery mode and after a while a screen popped up, offering regular failsave netroot root And may be others. However I could not move the cursor in order to make my choice (I wanted root). The arrow keys did not work, nor crt n or something like this. I tried it on a Laptop and a regular desktop. What can I do? Thanks Uwe Brauer From oub at mat.ucm.es Mon Dec 17 22:08:19 2012 From: oub at mat.ucm.es (Uwe Brauer) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:08:19 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 10.04 cannot configure to wired net. Message-ID: <871ueoe3ho.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Hello This is a very bizarre problem. After the installation of Kubuntu 10.04 the wired card is recognised. Ifconfig shows it as eth0 However when I try to configure it with the graphical tool, the networkmanager I presume, it seems not to work. In the interface - I am not sure what to chose for "restrict to interface" and MTU - I have a static connection with a fixed IP, so I fill in IP Subnet Mask Gateway DNS servers and connect, also the symbol shows that the connection is established I cannot connect, the browswer refuses to connect. Ping say http://www.nytimes.com/ does not return anything. So I have plugged in a USB wireless modem, which is recognised I then connect to a wireless net I have access to, I install *trinity KDE3* using their networkmanager and then I have a working connection. This is absurd. What is the problem? Thanks Uwe Brauer From gkourtev at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 08:24:31 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 10:24:31 +0200 Subject: Kubuntu 10.04 cannot configure to wired net. In-Reply-To: <871ueoe3ho.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <871ueoe3ho.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Message-ID: A non professional suggestion: why don't you install tha 12.04 LTS instead? Gk На 18.12.2012 00:09 "Uwe Brauer" написа: > Hello > > This is a very bizarre problem. After the installation of > Kubuntu 10.04 the wired card is > recognised. Ifconfig shows it as eth0 > > However when I try to configure it with the graphical tool, > the networkmanager I presume, it seems not to work. In the interface > > - I am not sure what to chose for "restrict to > interface" and MTU > > - I have a static connection with a fixed IP, so I fill > in > IP > Subnet Mask > Gateway > DNS servers > and connect, also the symbol shows that the > connection is established I cannot connect, the > browswer refuses to connect. > Ping say http://www.nytimes.com/ > does not return anything. > > So I have plugged in a USB wireless modem, which is > recognised I then connect to a wireless net I have > access to, I install *trinity KDE3* using their > networkmanager and then I have a working connection. > > This is absurd. > > What is the problem? > > Thanks > > Uwe Brauer > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gk because trinity is still not stable for 12.04 From jlitwinski at vp.pl Tue Dec 18 15:46:12 2012 From: jlitwinski at vp.pl (Jan =?utf-8?Q?Litwi=C5=84ski?=) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 16:46:12 +0100 Subject: test Message-ID: <87mwxbxt17.fsf@linux-fay4.site> test don't replay From rayburke30 at gmail.com Tue Dec 18 19:24:39 2012 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 06:24:39 +1100 Subject: pinning apps Message-ID: Can anyone help as I want to keep the current flash plater for my k12.04, as when I updated thru muon it says that I need flash player to review sports results within my yahoo.com/sports. So I want to keep the current flash played and not update, so in the muon package I have pinned the current flash player but every time I boot up it still shows as an update in the muon update manager, how can I fix it? ray From paul at appjaws.plus.com Wed Dec 19 13:47:26 2012 From: paul at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:47:26 +0000 Subject: DVD's will not play Message-ID: <1454591.23tSsD0q3L@pc2> Hi all, since updating to 12.10 (new install) I am unable to play DVD’s I seem to remember that I need to add a source for software and download decass?? or something. Can anybody help me to be able to play DVD’s please. Thanks Paul -- mail sent using kmail and kubuntu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From kassube at gmx.net Wed Dec 19 14:19:26 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:19:26 +0100 Subject: DVD's will not play In-Reply-To: <1454591.23tSsD0q3L@pc2> References: <1454591.23tSsD0q3L@pc2> Message-ID: <201212191519.26442.kassube@gmx.net> Paul Stear wrote: > since updating to 12.10 (new install) I am unable to play DVD’s > I seem to remember that I need to add a source for software and > download decass?? or something. Have a look at these pages: Nils From fatgerman at gmail.com Wed Dec 19 20:30:48 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:30:48 +0000 Subject: DVD's will not play In-Reply-To: <201212191519.26442.kassube@gmx.net> References: <1454591.23tSsD0q3L@pc2> <201212191519.26442.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On 19 Dec 2012, at 14:19, Nils Kassube wrote: > Paul Stear wrote: >> since updating to 12.10 (new install) I am unable to play DVD’s >> I seem to remember that I need to add a source for software and >> download decass?? or something. Google Medibuntu and follow the instructions for adding the repository, then sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 Mark > > Have a look at these pages: > > > > > Nils > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From doc.evans at gmail.com Wed Dec 19 20:39:23 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:39:23 -0700 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy Message-ID: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> Does anyone else use k9copy? and, if so, is audio being created properly on the copy? I have tried tweaking everything I can think of here, and k9copy stubbornly insists on producing discs with perfectly good video, but with accompanying silence. If it's working for you, perhaps, you'd be so good as to post or e-mail your ~/.kde/share/config/K9Copy file, so I can look for any obvious difference as compared to my configuration file. Exactly the same set-up worked fine in precise (and prior releases). Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Check the Settings and select the language to be used for record and playback. It is set to Unknown by default. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.4 & kernel 3.6.10-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From paul at appjaws.plus.com Thu Dec 20 11:27:49 2012 From: paul at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:27:49 +0000 Subject: DVD's will not play In-Reply-To: References: <1454591.23tSsD0q3L@pc2> <201212191519.26442.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <19943266.YWZixJRGFQ@pc2> Thanks to all who replied, I can now watch DVD's. Paul On Wednesday 19 Dec 2012 20:30:48 Mark Greenwood wrote: > On 19 Dec 2012, at 14:19, Nils Kassube wrote: > > Paul Stear wrote: > >> since updating to 12.10 (new install) I am unable to play DVD’s > >> I seem to remember that I need to add a source for software and > >> download decass?? or something. > > Google Medibuntu and follow the instructions for adding the repository, then > > sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 > > Mark > > > Have a look at these pages: > > > > > > > > > > Nils -- mail sent using kmail and kubuntu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at appjaws.plus.com Thu Dec 20 11:54:19 2012 From: paul at appjaws.plus.com (Paul Stear) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 11:54:19 +0000 Subject: Duplicate e-mails Message-ID: <1484020.edHnUps7ga@pc2> Hi all, I am getting 2 copies of each e-mail from this list. How can I stop this? 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Evans wrote: >> Does anyone else use k9copy? and, if so, is audio being created properly on >> the copy? >> >> I have tried tweaking everything I can think of here, and k9copy stubbornly >> insists on producing discs with perfectly good video, but with accompanying >> silence. >> >> If it's working for you, perhaps, you'd be so good as to post or e-mail your >> ~/.kde/share/config/K9Copy file, so I can look for any obvious difference as >> compared to my configuration file. >> >> Exactly the same set-up worked fine in precise (and prior releases). > > > Check the Settings and select the language to be used for record and > playback. It is set to Unknown by default. I already checked all the setting I could find. But where do you find "record and playack"? I don't see those words anywhere in the settings. If you mean DVD | Prefered (sic) Languages | Audio, then "en" and "xx" are checked. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 261 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Dec 21 02:36:00 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:36:00 +1100 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy In-Reply-To: <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> References: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> <50D27587.7020309@iinet.net.au> <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> On 21/12/12 02:21, D. R. Evans wrote: > Basil Chupin said the following at 12/19/2012 07:18 PM : >> On 20/12/12 07:39, D. R. Evans wrote: >>> Does anyone else use k9copy? and, if so, is audio being created properly on >>> the copy? >>> >>> I have tried tweaking everything I can think of here, and k9copy stubbornly >>> insists on producing discs with perfectly good video, but with accompanying >>> silence. >>> >>> If it's working for you, perhaps, you'd be so good as to post or e-mail your >>> ~/.kde/share/config/K9Copy file, so I can look for any obvious difference as >>> compared to my configuration file. >>> >>> Exactly the same set-up worked fine in precise (and prior releases). >> >> Check the Settings and select the language to be used for record and >> playback. It is set to Unknown by default. > I already checked all the setting I could find. But where do you find "record > and playack"? I don't see those words anywhere in the settings. > > If you mean DVD | Prefered (sic) Languages | Audio, then "en" and "xx" are > checked. > > Doc Eh, sorry about that - was working from memory but should have looked at k9copy itself :-( . Tick the English language for BOTH the Audio *and* Subtitles. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.4 & kernel 3.6.10-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Dec 21 15:20:58 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:20:58 -0700 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy In-Reply-To: <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> References: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> <50D27587.7020309@iinet.net.au> <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <50D47E5A.3090407@gmail.com> Basil Chupin said the following at 12/20/2012 07:36 PM : > On 21/12/12 02:21, D. R. Evans wrote: >> Basil Chupin said the following at 12/19/2012 07:18 PM : >>> On 20/12/12 07:39, D. R. Evans wrote: >>>> Does anyone else use k9copy? and, if so, is audio being created properly on >>>> the copy? >>>> >>>> I have tried tweaking everything I can think of here, and k9copy stubbornly >>>> insists on producing discs with perfectly good video, but with accompanying >>>> silence. >>>> >>>> If it's working for you, perhaps, you'd be so good as to post or e-mail your >>>> ~/.kde/share/config/K9Copy file, so I can look for any obvious difference as >>>> compared to my configuration file. >>>> >>>> Exactly the same set-up worked fine in precise (and prior releases). >>> >>> Check the Settings and select the language to be used for record and >>> playback. It is set to Unknown by default. >> I already checked all the setting I could find. But where do you find "record >> and playack"? I don't see those words anywhere in the settings. >> >> If you mean DVD | Prefered (sic) Languages | Audio, then "en" and "xx" are >> checked. >> >> Doc > > Eh, sorry about that - was working from memory but should have looked at > k9copy itself :-( . > > Tick the English language for BOTH the Audio *and* Subtitles. I didn't mention the subtitles, but "English" is checked there as well. So I think it has been configured correctly all along. And FWIW, yesterday I installed k9copy on a completely clean installation of quantal on a different computer; then I carefully went through every configuration screen I could find, settings things sensibly, and it behaved exactly the same way: still no audio. Does *anybody* here have k9copy working properly on quantal??? Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So I > think it has been configured correctly all along. > > And FWIW, yesterday I installed k9copy on a completely clean installation of > quantal on a different computer; then I carefully went through every > configuration screen I could find, settings things sensibly, and it behaved > exactly the same way: still no audio. > > Does *anybody* here have k9copy working properly on quantal??? > > Doc I have to ask the obvious question, or two: you do have sound when you play a normal DVD? and do you have the correct codecs installed? I am sending under a separate private message a copy of the config file for k9copy for you use or compare. (Note that you will need to write in your own login name in the path statements.) (You should also be aware that the author of k9copy no longer supports it - and has stopped updating it now for close to 2 years. He has done this because of the different distros doing "their own thing" and he couldn't keep up with changing things to suit those distros. The only alternative to k9copy is to use stuff for Windows (like, say, DVDFAB and others.) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.4 & kernel 3.6.10-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From mitchell at tufala.net Sat Dec 22 18:57:57 2012 From: mitchell at tufala.net (mitchell) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 20:57:57 +0200 Subject: Security?? In-Reply-To: <7978553.P4YFokoO04@pc2> References: <7978553.P4YFokoO04@pc2> Message-ID: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Paul Stear wrote: > ** > > Hi, > > Can anybody point me in the right direction for sending secure e-mails and > also encryption of a disc partition. > > Thanks > > Paul > > -- > > > Hi, For Full Disc Encryption, use the alternative CD. Don't know what you mean by sending secure e-mails, but if you need end-to-end encryption, you may want to consider GPG. -- Dimitar Ivanov Security Consultant Web: http://www.websecuritywatch.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/mukareste -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Sat Dec 22 19:31:21 2012 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:31:21 -0800 Subject: Security?? In-Reply-To: References: <7978553.P4YFokoO04@pc2> Message-ID: Correction, as of 12.10, the Alternate CDs no longer exist, and the encryption function has been implemented in the main CDs. On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:57 AM, mitchell wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Paul Stear wrote: > >> ** >> >> Hi, >> >> Can anybody point me in the right direction for sending secure e-mails >> and also encryption of a disc partition. >> >> Thanks >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> >> >> > Hi, > > For Full Disc Encryption, use the alternative CD. Don't know what you mean > by sending secure e-mails, but if you need end-to-end encryption, you may > want to consider GPG. > > -- > Dimitar Ivanov > Security Consultant > Web: http://www.websecuritywatch.com/ > GitHub: https://github.com/mukareste > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitchell at tufala.net Sat Dec 22 19:50:38 2012 From: mitchell at tufala.net (mitchell) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:50:38 +0200 Subject: Security?? In-Reply-To: References: <7978553.P4YFokoO04@pc2> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Cody Smith wrote: > Correction, as of 12.10, the Alternate CDs no longer exist, and the > encryption function has been implemented in the main CDs. > Oops, sorry; I have been upgrading for so many years, I missed that :-). -- Dimitar Ivanov Security Consultant Web: http://www.websecuritywatch.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/mukareste -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Dec 22 21:42:47 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:42:47 +1000 Subject: Security?? In-Reply-To: References: <7978553.P4YFokoO04@pc2> Message-ID: <1912258.fpvevSEde8@lindsay-quantal> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:57:57 PM mitchell wrote: > if you need end-to-end encryption, you may want to consider GPG. KMail has GPG and S/MIME integrated, it works very well for encryption, decryption and signing. 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Evans) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:20:32 -0700 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy In-Reply-To: <50D53B7D.2090304@iinet.net.au> References: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> <50D27587.7020309@iinet.net.au> <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> <50D47E5A.3090407@gmail.com> <50D53B7D.2090304@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <50D74B70.8070808@gmail.com> Basil Chupin said the following at 12/21/2012 09:47 PM : > I have to ask the obvious question, or two: you do have sound when you > play a normal DVD? and do you have the correct codecs installed? > Thanks for not assuming anything :-) But yes, un-copied DVDs play just fine. > I am sending under a separate private message a copy of the config file > for k9copy for you use or compare. (Note that you will need to write in > your own login name in the path statements.) > Thank you. I will try that tomorrow. > (You should also be aware that the author of k9copy no longer supports > it - and has stopped updating it now for close to 2 years. He has done > this because of the different distros doing "their own thing" and he > couldn't keep up with changing things to suit those distros. > Yes, I was aware that he no longer supports it... in fact, I more than half thought that that would lead to its demise from *buntu, since that's been given to me as an excuse in the past for the dropping of otherwise-perfectly-functioning packages (KDevelop3 comes immediately to mind, but there were others). Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What would I need to uninstall to get rid of KMail2 and what old KMail files would I need to copy from 11.04? If none of the above is practical, is Kmail2 in 12.04 good enough to be worth the effort to rebuild all my settings and filters from scratch? Or should I wait until a later upgrade? I'd like to get up to date eventually. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church From amribrahim1987 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 24 09:30:25 2012 From: amribrahim1987 at hotmail.com (Amr Ibrahim) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:30:25 +0200 Subject: Consider uploading/maintaining a Dropbox client (Kfilebox) for Kubuntu? Message-ID: Dear Kubuntu users, Hello, I bet that a lot of Kubuntu users want to have a decently working Dropbox client on their Kubuntu desktop. That's why I think developers could consider _uploading and maintaining_ *Kfilebox* (http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdropbox/) in the Kubuntu/Ubuntu repositories. One major benefit of this is making sure the every release of Kfilebox is always compatible and safe to use in any Kubuntu release. Kfilebox http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdropbox/ AUR package https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kfilebox/ Another interesting project http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Dropbox+ServiceMenu?content=124416 Suggestions and comments are welcome. Thanks a lot. Regards, Amr Ibrahim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amribrahim1987 at hotmail.com Mon Dec 24 09:40:08 2012 From: amribrahim1987 at hotmail.com (Amr Ibrahim) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:40:08 +0200 Subject: Consider uploading/maintaining a Dropbox client (Kfilebox) for Kubuntu? In-Reply-To: <50D820B1.40600@hotmail.com> References: <50D820B1.40600@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Also OpenSUSE packages, http://software.opensuse.org/package/dropbox http://software.opensuse.org/package/dolphin-dropbox-plugin http://software.opensuse.org/package/dropbox-servicemenu http://software.opensuse.org/package/dropbox-kde-servicemenu From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Tue Dec 25 19:03:21 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:03:21 +0000 Subject: Strange audio problems Message-ID: <7045691.ZT9RlXKTUn@rachael> My daughter's been having problems with the audio breaking up on her computer for a while, but today I went into PulseAudio Volume Control and noticed that the output device port was constantly switching between Analogue Output and Headphones. Running alsamixer from the command line also showed this, but with the surround channels even though they're not used. Can anyone offer any advice on how to sort this out? Thanks. From errol at tzora.co.il Fri Dec 28 05:54:34 2012 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 07:54:34 +0200 Subject: hyperlink pdf documents Message-ID: <50DD341A.4020807@tzora.co.il> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Dec 28 06:14:47 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:14:47 +1100 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy In-Reply-To: <50D74B70.8070808@gmail.com> References: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> <50D27587.7020309@iinet.net.au> <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> <50D47E5A.3090407@gmail.com> <50D53B7D.2090304@iinet.net.au> <50D74B70.8070808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50DD38D7.5090806@iinet.net.au> On 24/12/12 05:20, D. R. Evans wrote: > Basil Chupin said the following at 12/21/2012 09:47 PM : > >> I have to ask the obvious question, or two: you do have sound when you >> play a normal DVD? and do you have the correct codecs installed? >> > Thanks for not assuming anything :-) > > But yes, un-copied DVDs play just fine. > >> I am sending under a separate private message a copy of the config file >> for k9copy for you use or compare. (Note that you will need to write in >> your own login name in the path statements.) >> > Thank you. I will try that tomorrow. And tomorrow came and went....... So, what's the result? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.4 & kernel 3.7.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Dec 28 06:29:26 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:29:26 +1100 Subject: Strange audio problems In-Reply-To: <7045691.ZT9RlXKTUn@rachael> References: <7045691.ZT9RlXKTUn@rachael> Message-ID: <50DD3C46.4060309@iinet.net.au> On 26/12/12 06:03, Mark Fraser wrote: > My daughter's been having problems with the audio breaking up on her computer > for a while, but today I went into PulseAudio Volume Control and noticed that > the output device port was constantly switching between Analogue Output and > Headphones. Running alsamixer from the command line also showed this, but with > the surround channels even though they're not used. > > Can anyone offer any advice on how to sort this out? > > Thanks. When asking a question always pays to offer the people some information about the "computer", the OS (ie distro and version being run) and anything else which *you* would like to know if you were to attempt and answer someone's request for help. OK? The first question I would ask is: is this an occurrence which suddenly afflicted your daughter or is this something which is now happening because you/she installed (some version) of Kubuntu? The next question is: is this sound being generated by the motherboard's onboard chipset or by a PCI(/E) card? And which of these is selected/activated in the BIOS (you cannot have both activated [disclaimer here])? Last question: when using Alsamixer did you use F6 to select the sound source/card, and did you get a full list of what channels are available for configuration **? ** In many cases, pulseaudio stuffs up alsamixer and alsamixer only displays about 3 or 4 available channels; disabling or removing puseaudio then enables alsamixer to display all channels. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.4 & kernel 3.7.1-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From faptagon at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 09:19:36 2012 From: faptagon at gmail.com (Bill vance) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 01:19:36 -0800 Subject: Magic cookies??? Message-ID: Howdy; I just did a fresh reinstall of 10.04, and unarchived /var/mail, /home/userdirs, and etc. Now when I try to use Kuser, it takes my password, and disapears. When I try to use it from a shell window, I get the following message: /usr/bin/kuser Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keykuser: cannot connect to X server :0 Is there a fix for this? Bill From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Fri Dec 28 07:19:14 2012 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:19:14 -0500 Subject: Strange audio problems--OT question In-Reply-To: <50DD3C46.4060309@iinet.net.au> References: <7045691.ZT9RlXKTUn@rachael> <50DD3C46.4060309@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <50DD47F2.4050605@optonline.net> On 12/28/2012 01:29 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: /snip/ > > The next question is: is this sound being generated by the > motherboard's onboard chipset or by a PCI(/E) card? And which of these > is selected/activated in the BIOS (you cannot have both activated > [disclaimer here])? /snip/ I would appreciate some more information on this. This is not related to Ubuntu, altho it affects Linux and XP. I have 2 sound decoders (if that's what they should be called) in my system; one on the mobo, and another in my GeForce video card with NVidia hardware/software. The video card has an HDMI port, which is connected to my TV. In Linux, I can get sound from the mobo with video (via the normal computer video connection from the GeForce board.) However, no sound comes out of the TV. In XP, I can get video on both the local monitor and the TV, again, but this time I can only get sound from the TV. Both Linux and XP use NVidia drivers designed for the respective systems. I hope I have described this correctly, since it has been some time since I tried to get it working. I had a friendly fellow on the PCLOS Forum try to get sound from both devices at the same time, but without success. Is there something built in to the motherboard, or into the OS or even the BIOS which prevents sound from being decoded and output from both devices at the same time? I really wouldn't care if it worked in only one of the two operating systems, since I want to use it to watch movies or delayed TV shows on the TV, but I would like to have the audio on the computer audio also, so as to set things up, and so on, at the computer, the TV being in another room. I would assume that if anyone ever figures out to do this, it will be for the Linux system, since that's open software, and XP is not. If you need to know the technical details: Foxconn mobo, G41MXE/G41MXE-K BIOS: American Megatrends ver.080015, dtd 10/14/2010 CPU:Intel Celeron E3400 @ 2.60GHz. (Dual Core) On-board video disabled in BIOS. Video: GeForce GTX 550 Ti Audio--on mobo: Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller Audio--on GeForce: GF116 High Definition Audio Controller, from NVidia Corp. --doug From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Dec 28 11:44:03 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:44:03 +1100 Subject: Strange audio problems--OT question In-Reply-To: <50DD47F2.4050605@optonline.net> References: <7045691.ZT9RlXKTUn@rachael> <50DD3C46.4060309@iinet.net.au> <50DD47F2.4050605@optonline.net> Message-ID: <50DD8603.9000500@iinet.net.au> On 28/12/12 18:19, Doug wrote: > On 12/28/2012 01:29 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > /snip/ >> >> The next question is: is this sound being generated by the >> motherboard's onboard chipset or by a PCI(/E) card? And which of >> these is selected/activated in the BIOS (you cannot have both >> activated [disclaimer here])? > /snip/ > > I would appreciate some more information on this. This is not related > to Ubuntu, altho it affects Linux and XP. > I have 2 sound decoders (if that's what they should be called) in my > system; one on the mobo, and another > in my GeForce video card with NVidia hardware/software. The video card > has an HDMI port, which is connected > to my TV. In Linux, I can get sound from the mobo with video (via the > normal computer video connection from > the GeForce board.) However, no sound comes out of the TV. In XP, I > can get video on both the local monitor > and the TV, again, but this time I can only get sound from the TV. > Both Linux and XP use NVidia drivers designed > for the respective systems. > > I hope I have described this correctly, since it has been some time > since I tried to get it working. > > I had a friendly fellow on the PCLOS Forum try to get sound from both > devices at the same time, but without success. > > Is there something built in to the motherboard, or into the OS or even > the BIOS which prevents sound from being > decoded and output from both devices at the same time? > > I really wouldn't care if it worked in only one of the two operating > systems, since I want to use it to watch movies or > delayed TV shows on the TV, but I would like to have the audio on the > computer audio also, so as to set things up, > and so on, at the computer, the TV being in another room. > > I would assume that if anyone ever figures out to do this, it will be > for the Linux system, since that's open software, > and XP is not. > > If you need to know the technical details: > Foxconn mobo, G41MXE/G41MXE-K > BIOS: American Megatrends ver.080015, dtd 10/14/2010 > CPU:Intel Celeron E3400 @ 2.60GHz. (Dual Core) > On-board video disabled in BIOS. > Video: GeForce GTX 550 Ti > Audio--on mobo: Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller > Audio--on GeForce: GF116 High Definition Audio Controller, from NVidia > Corp. > > --doug I have the same nVidia card (the 550 Ti) but output vidoe/sound to only one device, the HDMI monitor. While I do not use a dual output like you do, I do understand that you need to configure nVidia driver for it to know that you are using 2 outputs. In the Kickoff>Applications>Applications there will be *NVIDIA* *Server* *Settings* entry. With 2 outputs connected to the card these Settings should be able to detect both outputs - make sure that the Settings are configured to use both outputs. When nVidia settings are done, check that pulsaudio also has the correct settings for the two outputs. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.4 & kernel 3.6.10-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 13:29:59 2012 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:29:59 +0000 Subject: Strange audio problems In-Reply-To: <50DD3C46.4060309@iinet.net.au> References: <7045691.ZT9RlXKTUn@rachael> <50DD3C46.4060309@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4030849.KJUJEgqAOE@rachael> On Friday 28 Dec 2012 17:29:26 Basil Chupin wrote: > On 26/12/12 06:03, Mark Fraser wrote: > > My daughter's been having problems with the audio breaking up on her > > computer for a while, but today I went into PulseAudio Volume Control and > > noticed that the output device port was constantly switching between > > Analogue Output and Headphones. Running alsamixer from the command line > > also showed this, but with the surround channels even though they're not > > used. > > > > Can anyone offer any advice on how to sort this out? > > > > Thanks. > > When asking a question always pays to offer the people some information > about the "computer", the OS (ie distro and version being run) and > anything else which *you* would like to know if you were to attempt and > answer someone's request for help. OK? Sorry, it was a quick email before shutting the computer down. Here is some more info - she is running Kubuntu 12.10, but it has been happening for a a releases which I've been able to fix before. > The first question I would ask is: is this an occurrence which suddenly > afflicted your daughter or is this something which is now happening > because you/she installed (some version) of Kubuntu? > > The next question is: is this sound being generated by the motherboard's > onboard chipset or by a PCI(/E) card? And which of these is > selected/activated in the BIOS (you cannot have both activated > [disclaimer here])? This is with the on board sound on a Gigabyte GA-M68SM-S2L motherboard. Lspci shows the following info: Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21 Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable+ 64bit+ Capabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Enable- Fixed+ Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel > Last question: when using Alsamixer did you use F6 to select the sound > source/card, and did you get a full list of what channels are available > for configuration **? Yes, I used F6 and it had a few different sound cards, one of them being HDMI output on the graphics card. I selected the on board audio. > ** In many cases, pulseaudio stuffs up alsamixer and alsamixer only > displays about 3 or 4 available channels; disabling or removing > puseaudio then enables alsamixer to display all channels. This is the same set up as my wife is using on her computer and her audio is fine. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Dec 28 14:09:45 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 01:09:45 +1100 Subject: Strange audio problems In-Reply-To: <4030849.KJUJEgqAOE@rachael> References: <7045691.ZT9RlXKTUn@rachael> <50DD3C46.4060309@iinet.net.au> <4030849.KJUJEgqAOE@rachael> Message-ID: <50DDA829.2010902@iinet.net.au> On 29/12/12 00:29, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Friday 28 Dec 2012 17:29:26 Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned] > Last question: when using Alsamixer did you use F6 to select the sound > source/card, and did you get a full list of what channels are available > for configuration **? > Yes, I used F6 and it had a few different sound cards, one of them being HDMI > output on the graphics card. I selected the on board audio. Quick response before I head for the bed. You were presented with "a few different sound cards"?! There is only the "sound card" - the chipset on the mobo - and if you have a PCI/E card installed then you have that also to choose from. Where do these "few different" sound cards come from? When you select which one you want to use (mobo or the PCI/E card) then you configure it thru, say, alsamixer (and pulseaudio). The other quick suggestion is that perhaps the chipset on the mobo - which is what it appears that you are using - is about to go to sound chipset heaven. Put in a PCI/E sound card in and see what you get. (I have a brand new, never touched by human hands motherboard and the first time I plugged in ethernet cable to get onto the internet I got no response from the modem :-( . I installed an PCI network card and all was well with the world. I just don't trust those chipsets on mobos and so have installed a separate network card, video card, and sound card. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 KDE 4.9.4 & kernel 3.6.10-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU From doc.evans at gmail.com Fri Dec 28 15:58:55 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:58:55 -0700 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy In-Reply-To: <50DD38D7.5090806@iinet.net.au> References: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> <50D27587.7020309@iinet.net.au> <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> <50D47E5A.3090407@gmail.com> <50D53B7D.2090304@iinet.net.au> <50D74B70.8070808@gmail.com> <50DD38D7.5090806@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <50DDC1BF.4010704@gmail.com> Basil Chupin said the following at 12/27/2012 11:14 PM : >> >>> I am sending under a separate private message a copy of the config file >>> for k9copy for you use or compare. (Note that you will need to write in >>> your own login name in the path statements.) >>> >> Thank you. I will try that tomorrow. > > And tomorrow came and went....... > > So, what's the result? Christmas got in the way of a detailed analysis :-) The quick results made no sense. I have two machines: Machine #1: crashed the first time I used the file. Then, without any change whatsoever, it worked fine the second time. Machine #2: Crashed. And crashed. And crashed. Even after I restored the original configuration file, k9copy crashed. I haven't been able to reboot this machine yet, but I'm expecting that when I get that opportunity, the machine will also be available for proper testing. FWIW, the only difference between your config file and mine was a couple of items in the [options] section that should have no bearing whatsoever on audio. Anyway, this is pretty high on my priority list: it just turned out that it wasn't the simple 15-minute exercise I expected it to be. 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I selected the on board audio. > > Quick response before I head for the bed. > > You were presented with "a few different sound cards"?! > > There is only the "sound card" - the chipset on the mobo - and if you > have a PCI/E card installed then you have that also to choose from. > Where do these "few different" sound cards come from? The options were: - (Default) 0) HDA NVidia 1) USB Device <- this is the webcam 2) HDA Nvidia From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Sat Dec 29 16:33:48 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis Linux) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:33:48 +0100 Subject: nvidia ubuntu 12.10 the system is running in low graphics mode Message-ID: Hello, My uncle's Ubuntu 12.10 get's a error with the Nvidia card. Ist's 'the system is running in low graphics mode'. I tried the recovery mode but that didn't work for me at all. Any ideas to fix this strange error? Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From paul at appjaws.plus.com Sun Dec 30 17:00:27 2012 From: paul at appjaws.plus.com (Paul) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:00:27 +0000 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? Message-ID: <50E0732B.6090301@appjaws.plus.com> Hi all, I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging the system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and set up accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? How can Thunderbird import the old messages? Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more suitable as a kmail replacement? Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to receive pop2 email and save the history. Please help a frustrated user. Thanks Paul -- ----This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- From kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com Sun Dec 30 17:09:52 2012 From: kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com (kubuntu) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:09:52 +0000 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? Message-ID: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> Hi all, I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging the system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and set up accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? How can Thunderbird import the old messages? Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more suitable as a kmail replacement? Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to receive pop2 email and save the history. Please help a frustrated user. Thanks Paul -- ----This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- From fatgerman at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 17:25:41 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:25:41 +0000 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? In-Reply-To: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> References: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <50E07915.20400@gmail.com> On 30/12/12 17:09, kubuntu wrote: > Hi all, > I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging the > system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and set up > accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. > Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? > How can Thunderbird import the old messages? > Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more suitable > as a kmail replacement? > > Have a look in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail2/mail and if you're lucky you might find some mailboxes but even if you do there's probably no other app that can read them. KMail2 has no export function, which is an omission that should be illegal. :) Thunderbird has an import/export plugin that might be able to handle the mailboxes, if you can find them. http://www.nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html The only other possible solution might be to create a temporary mail folder on your mail server, move all your mail into that (from KMail) so that it can be re-downloaded using Thunderbird. (BTW these days I just use IMAP which makes swapping between email clients much easier, like every few months when I try KMail to see if it works yet :) ). Good luck. Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to receive pop2 email and save the history. I agree, it's horrendously complex, even worse than setting up Outlook. Trouble is they want KDE PIM to be a rival for things like Outlook/Exchange when all most people want is something simple (like it used to be). I'm using Thunderbird now. It's not as nice as the old KMail but it's a darn sight easier to set up and use than KMail2. Mark Please help a frustrated user. Thanks Paul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Sun Dec 30 17:29:31 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:29:31 -0500 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? In-Reply-To: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> References: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: The default location for email is /home/username/.local/mail Thunderbird has an import feature that should be able to import your email as kmail uses the standard maildir format iirc. What email client you use is ultimately up to you. I personally can't stand tbird for the same reasons you don't like kmail. If you can, using imap instead of pop makes switching clients much easier, and you can choose to have your mail cached locally if you want local copies, or create filters that move or copy messages to a local folder. kubuntu wrote: >Hi all, >I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging the >system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and set up >accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. >Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? >How can Thunderbird import the old messages? >Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more suitable >as a kmail replacement? > >Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to receive pop2 > >email and save the history. > >Please help a frustrated user. >Thanks >Paul >-- >----This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 17:34:07 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:34:07 +0000 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? In-Reply-To: References: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <50E07B0F.5040605@gmail.com> On 30/12/12 17:29, Clay Weber wrote: > The default location for email is /home/username/.local/mail Not for anything stored in the Akonadi framework it isn't :( but your point is good. You might find something in /home/username/.local/share/local-mail/ I *think* kmail still stores 'Local Folders' mail here. This will be maildir format and Thunderbird should be able to read it. Mark > > Thunderbird has an import feature that should be able to import your > email as kmail uses the standard maildir format iirc. > > What email client you use is ultimately up to you. I personally can't > stand tbird for the same reasons you don't like kmail. If you can, > using imap instead of pop makes switching clients much easier, and you > can choose to have your mail cached locally if you want local copies, > or create filters that move or copy messages to a local folder. > > kubuntu wrote: > > Hi all, > I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging the > system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and set up > accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. > Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? > How can Thunderbird import the old messages? > Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more suitable > as a kmail replacement? > > Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to receive pop2 > email and save the history. > > Please help a frustrated user. > Thanks > Paul > > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Sun Dec 30 18:03:34 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:03:34 -0500 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? In-Reply-To: <50E07B0F.5040605@gmail.com> References: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> <50E07B0F.5040605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <707aca1c-cebe-4b7a-9a64-f13683b93fc5@email.android.com> Mark Greenwood wrote: >On 30/12/12 17:29, Clay Weber wrote: >> The default location for email is /home/username/.local/mail > >Not for anything stored in the Akonadi framework it isn't :( but your >point is good. > >You might find something in > >/home/username/.local/share/local-mail/ > >I *think* kmail still stores 'Local Folders' mail here. This will be >maildir format and Thunderbird should be able to read it. > >Mark > > > >> >> Thunderbird has an import feature that should be able to import your >> email as kmail uses the standard maildir format iirc. >> >> What email client you use is ultimately up to you. I personally can't >> stand tbird for the same reasons you don't like kmail. If you can, >> using imap instead of pop makes switching clients much easier, and >you >> can choose to have your mail cached locally if you want local copies, >> or create filters that move or copy messages to a local folder. >> >> kubuntu wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging >the >> system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and >set up >> accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. >> Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? >> How can Thunderbird import the old messages? >> Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more >suitable >> as a kmail replacement? >> >> Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to >receive pop2 >> email and save the history. >> >> Please help a frustrated user. >> Thanks >> Paul >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. >> >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I might have the exact folder incorrect (away from my computer) but akonadi does *not* store the actual email, they are still contained in the special email folder. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Dec 30 18:42:28 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:42:28 -0500 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? In-Reply-To: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> References: <50E07560.5070007@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <2306318.6QOm085kEY@linux1> On Sunday, December 30, 2012 05:09:52 PM kubuntu wrote: > Hi all, > I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging the > system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and set up > accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. > Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? > How can Thunderbird import the old messages? > Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more suitable > as a kmail replacement? > > Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to receive pop2 > email and save the history. > I hear your pain and agree with the nastiness of Kmail2. They took a really good program and "Window-ized" in my opinion. Hung too many goodies off of it and totally ruined it. I am still using Kmail2 but only by putting up with a lot of problems and forfeiting the ability to search my email folders because search no longer works. Too bad they screwed up so royally but no one appears to be listening. Your best bet to migrate to T-bird is to google "import kmail2 to thunderbird" and check the items found. I saw several that indicated people had done it but it wasn't a straight forward thing to do. In the meantime, I would go to settings - system settings - Desktop search and turn off the three items under Basic settings.... Might help your slowness. "Don't drive your horse with a whip -- use the oat bag. -- Russian proverb" From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 18:53:00 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:53:00 +0200 Subject: How to transfer kmail2 messages to Thunderbird? In-Reply-To: <50E0732B.6090301@appjaws.plus.com> References: <50E0732B.6090301@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <50E08D8C.1000402@gmail.com> On 30/12/2012 19:00, Paul wrote: > Hi all, > I am fed up with kmail taking so long to do things and hogging the > system. I thought I would try Thunderbird, I installed it and set up > accounts but I can not find my old mail which I need. > Where is kmail2 mail stored and can it be exported? > How can Thunderbird import the old messages? > Is Thunderbird a good choice or would another program be more suitable > as a kmail replacement? > > Why is everything so complicated, after all I just want to receive pop2 > email and save the history. > > Please help a frustrated user. > Thanks > Paul there is now Trojita that is officially KDE, however IMAP and not POP based as I understand: http://trojita.flaska.net/ From basroufs at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 19:04:35 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 20:04:35 +0100 Subject: Bizarre problems with Kontact at a fresh install of Kubuntu 12.10. Message-ID: Dear Everybody, at present, I am experiencing bizarre problems with Kontact at a fresh install of Kubuntu 12.10. The only way to properly explain them, is a combination of screenshots and explaining text. Be so kind to download and view this booklet: rainbowgathering.eu/Kontact.pdf I have been working quite successfully with Kontact ever since about 2010. But the problems I am experiencing now are really weird. I really would appreciate your suggestions to get started again with Kontact. Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkourtev at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 21:02:33 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 23:02:33 +0200 Subject: Bizarre problems with Kontact at a fresh install of Kubuntu 12.10. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did you added the resources from Akonadi or from within Kontact? Gk На 30.12.2012 21:05 "Bas Roufs" написа: > Dear Everybody, > > at present, I am experiencing bizarre problems with Kontact at a fresh > install of Kubuntu 12.10. The only way to properly explain them, is a > combination of screenshots and explaining text. > > Be so kind to download and view this booklet: > > rainbowgathering.eu/Kontact.pdf > > I have been working quite successfully with Kontact ever since about 2010. > But the problems I am experiencing now are really weird. I really would > appreciate your suggestions to get started again with Kontact. > > Respectfully yours, > > Bas Roufs. > > -- > > Bas G. Roufs MA > > Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht > > E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. > > Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . > Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; > RainbowGathering.eu . > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 07:00:16 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:00:16 +0200 Subject: Bizarre problems with Kontact at a fresh install of Kubuntu 12.10. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50E13800.8030004@gmail.com> On 30/12/2012 21:04, Bas Roufs wrote: > Dear Everybody, > > at present, I am experiencing bizarre problems with Kontact at a fresh > install of Kubuntu 12.10. The only way to properly explain them, is a > combination of screenshots and explaining text. > > Be so kind to download and view this booklet: > > rainbowgathering.eu/Kontact.pdf > > I have been working quite successfully with Kontact ever since about > 2010. But the problems I am experiencing now are really weird. I really > would appreciate your suggestions to get started again with Kontact. > If I compare to my setup you are missing a "Local Folders" resource, that is where all my mail is displayed by KMail/Kontact. Mine points to "/home/sinclair/.local/share/local-mail" folder In both "Contacts" and "Calendar" check in "Settings" menu that the respctive addressbooks and calenders are activated/chosen good luck Sinclair From basroufs at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 18:15:17 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:15:17 +0100 Subject: Bizarre problems with Kontact at a fresh install of Kubuntu 12.10. In-Reply-To: <50E13800.8030004@gmail.com> References: <50E13800.8030004@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, everybody for your feedback so far. > Did you added the resources from Akonadi or from within Kontact? I have tried both ways: directly via Kontact and via SYSTEM SETTINGS > personal info > Akonadi Resources. So far, I get the best results by first adding via Akonadi and than via Kontact. >> > If I compare to my setup you are missing a "Local Folders" resource, that is where all my mail is displayed by KMail/Kontact. > > Mine points to "/home/sinclair/.local/share/local-mail" folder > > In both "Contacts" and "Calendar" check in "Settings" menu that the respctive addressbooks and calenders are activated/chosen By following up these useful advises, I managed today to solve most of yesterday's problems. Everything is visible and accessible now; mail folders, contacts, calendars, etc. However, I do not yet manage to send any e-mail - probably because Kontact is busy now loading the mail folders. One weird detail remains. Take a look at the little screenshot coming with this mail. I have have just one Gmail account, which shows up twice in the mail folders. Any idea how to get rid of the inactive, offline duplicate? Thanks for replying. Respectfully yours, Bas. > > > good luck > Sinclair > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- drs. Bas G. Roufs Van 't Hoffstraat 1; NL - 3514 VT Utrecht E. BasRoufs at gmail.com; Mob. +31 6 446 835 10; Tel. +31 30 785 20 40. Open source OS: Kubuntu 12.10, see kubuntu.org . Websites in construction: BasRoufs.eu ; Viaconsensus.nl; RainbowGathering.eu . -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Mail Folders 31 Dec. 12.png Type: image/png Size: 11337 bytes Desc: not available URL: From doc.evans at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 20:56:57 2012 From: doc.evans at gmail.com (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:56:57 -0700 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy In-Reply-To: <50DDC1BF.4010704@gmail.com> References: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> <50D27587.7020309@iinet.net.au> <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> <50D47E5A.3090407@gmail.com> <50D53B7D.2090304@iinet.net.au> <50D74B70.8070808@gmail.com> <50DD38D7.5090806@iinet.net.au> <50DDC1BF.4010704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <50E1FC19.5040504@gmail.com> D. R. Evans said the following at 12/28/2012 08:58 AM : > > Anyway, this is pretty high on my priority list: it just turned out that it > wasn't the simple 15-minute exercise I expected it to be. I *will* add to this > thread when I've spent more time on the issue. > So here is the story. Two computers: #1: 32-bit laptop #2: 64-bit desktop Both machines running quantal. Before I started on this, both machines behaved exactly the same way: both could copy DVDs, but the audio was absent on the resultant copy. I tried everything I could think of to correct the problem; nothing worked. I then installed Basil's copy of K9Copy in the configuration directory for both machines. The only differences between his K9Copy and mine were in the [options] section: 1. He had quickscan turned on; I had it turned off 2. He had it set to keep temporary files; I had it set to delete them Obviously, neither of these suggests itself as a likely cause of the problem. In particular, the settings (*all* the settings) pertaining to audio were identical in the configuration files. After installing his K9Copy configuration: #1: The first invocation of k9copy crashed as soon as it started the copy. We've all heard the definition of insanity that suggests that one shouldn't repeat an action and expect a different result... but I repeated the attempt to run k9copy (immediately, with no reboot or logout/login), and now the laptop created a copy WITH AUDIO. Yay! So I moved to computer #2. #2: The first invocation of k9copy crashed as soon as it started the copy. But so did the second, and the third. So I restored my original K9Copy expecting that at least the crashes would cease. They didn't. I rebooted. k9copy still crashed. I uninstalled k9copy, removed my K9Copy, and reinstalled k9copy. It still crashed as soon as it started the copy. To date, I have found no way to stop it crashing on this machine. Back to machine #1, to make sure it still works: #1: On the first invocation, k9copy crashed. On the second it worked, and the resultant copy had audio. So that's the current situation: I can make copies on one machine, sometimes. As is so frequently the case, I'm glad I had the foresight to keep one machine on Kubuntu 8.04 (the last KDE3 release). Every time I think of "upgrading" it to the current release, something like this happens to impress on me that I really shouldn't do that if I want to have one rock-solid machine on which Things Just Work. Doc -- Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 261 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From clay at claydoh.com Mon Dec 31 21:42:28 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:42:28 -0500 Subject: [quantal] no audio with k9copy In-Reply-To: <50E1FC19.5040504@gmail.com> References: <50D225FB.8020905@gmail.com> <50D27587.7020309@iinet.net.au> <50D32D10.20000@gmail.com> <50D3CB10.8070008@iinet.net.au> <50D47E5A.3090407@gmail.com> <50D53B7D.2090304@iinet.net.au> <50D74B70.8070808@gmail.com> <50DD38D7.5090806@iinet.net.au> <50DDC1BF.4010704@gmail.com> <50E1FC19.5040504@gmail.com> Message-ID: "D. R. Evans" wrote: >D. R. Evans said the following at 12/28/2012 08:58 AM : > >> >> Anyway, this is pretty high on my priority list: it just turned out >that it >> wasn't the simple 15-minute exercise I expected it to be. I *will* >add to this >> thread when I've spent more time on the issue. >> > >So here is the story. > >Two computers: > #1: 32-bit laptop > #2: 64-bit desktop >Both machines running quantal. > >Before I started on this, both machines behaved exactly the same way: >both >could copy DVDs, but the audio was absent on the resultant copy. I >tried >everything I could think of to correct the problem; nothing worked. > >I then installed Basil's copy of K9Copy in the configuration directory >for >both machines. The only differences between his K9Copy and mine were in >the >[options] section: > >1. He had quickscan turned on; I had it turned off >2. He had it set to keep temporary files; I had it set to delete them > >Obviously, neither of these suggests itself as a likely cause of the >problem. >In particular, the settings (*all* the settings) pertaining to audio >were >identical in the configuration files. > >After installing his K9Copy configuration: > >#1: The first invocation of k9copy crashed as soon as it started the >copy. >We've all heard the definition of insanity that suggests that one >shouldn't >repeat an action and expect a different result... but I repeated the >attempt >to run k9copy (immediately, with no reboot or logout/login), and now >the >laptop created a copy WITH AUDIO. Yay! So I moved to computer #2. > >#2: The first invocation of k9copy crashed as soon as it started the >copy. But >so did the second, and the third. So I restored my original K9Copy >expecting >that at least the crashes would cease. They didn't. I rebooted. k9copy >still >crashed. I uninstalled k9copy, removed my K9Copy, and reinstalled >k9copy. It >still crashed as soon as it started the copy. To date, I have found no >way to >stop it crashing on this machine. > >Back to machine #1, to make sure it still works: > >#1: On the first invocation, k9copy crashed. On the second it worked, >and the >resultant copy had audio. > >So that's the current situation: I can make copies on one machine, >sometimes. > >As is so frequently the case, I'm glad I had the foresight to keep one >machine >on Kubuntu 8.04 (the last KDE3 release). Every time I think of >"upgrading" it >to the current release, something like this happens to impress on me >that I >really shouldn't do that if I want to have one rock-solid machine on >which >Things Just Work. > > Doc > >-- >Web: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Have you tried deleting the config file, to regenerate a stock file to get you back to where you started? Uninstalling and reinstalling usually makes zero difference in curing freezes or crashes. Depending on how you received the config file, it might not be owned by you, permissions wise. Have you run k9copy from a terminal to get some info on what is happening when it crashes? I am of the mind that there is a missing audio encoder, such as Lame (used to encode mp3, for example) or ffmpeg, but I do not have a DVD to try ripping to investigate. Have you tried another program such as handbrake? -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: