From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 17:18:19 2012 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:18:19 -0500 Subject: Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? Message-ID: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? Thanks! Jesse From fatgerman at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 17:21:59 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:21:59 +0000 Subject: Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? In-Reply-To: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> References: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> Message-ID: <8E1703CB-6FB0-4DF7-B6C9-CC669E69A96B@gmail.com> There's no announcement about it on the Kubuntu homepage so I'd assume it's not available yet. Mark On 1 Mar 2012, at 17:18, Jesse Palser wrote: > Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? > Thanks! > > Jesse > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From kassube at gmx.net Thu Mar 1 17:50:04 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:50:04 +0100 Subject: Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? In-Reply-To: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> References: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> Message-ID: <201203011850.04362.kassube@gmx.net> Jesse Palser wrote: > Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? Not yet there, I think. Subscribe at to get a mail when it is released. Nils From girardhenri at free.fr Thu Mar 1 19:26:54 2012 From: girardhenri at free.fr (Girard Henri) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:26:54 +0100 Subject: Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? In-Reply-To: <201203011850.04362.kassube@gmx.net> References: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> <201203011850.04362.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4F4FCD7E.4050204@free.fr> yes it is out and better you can use livecd nightly Le 01/03/2012 18:50, Nils Kassube a écrit : > Jesse Palser wrote: >> Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? > Not yet there, I think. Subscribe at > > to get a mail when it is released. > > > Nils > From stvrly at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 20:11:57 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:11:57 -0800 Subject: Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? In-Reply-To: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> References: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> Message-ID: <2357410.ziacPq0uyA@sriley-t410> On 2012-03-01 12:18:19 Jesse Palser wrote: > > Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/beta-1/ ...Steve From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Thu Mar 1 22:48:13 2012 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Henny de Graaf) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 23:48:13 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Shut_down_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?does=B4t_wor?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?k_Ubuntu_1?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?1.10?= Message-ID: Hello, My Ubuntu 11.10 doesn´t shut down, the screen comes back with the log in screen. I searched with the internet and mayby there´s a problem with ACPI? This is a bug or not? Please help, because it´s important to shut down normaly. Kind regards, Dennis and Harm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 22:52:38 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:52:38 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? Message-ID: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> I subscribe to several RSS feeds and one of them just sent me the following: "The Kubuntu Community is pleased to announce plans for the 12.04 LTS release of Kubuntu. As approved by the Ubuntu Technical Board on January 9th, 12.04 will be a 5-year long-term support cycle for Kubuntu" So, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. This is good news, really good news. So if I install 12.04 I will get updates up to 17.04? Is this correct? I don't understand this commitment although it sounds really good. Or does this mean that 12.04 is the final properly supported release and (for example) 13.04 will be up in the clouds withe fairies for support? Only asking, out of inquisitiveness. Mark From buzzmandt at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 23:01:52 2012 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (buzzmandt at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 23:01:52 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0016e68f9e981cedc704ba367249@google.com> means in 5 years it will still be 12.04 (prob 12.04.04 or something) but will be updated as far as major bugs and security fixes go for those 5 years. You will not get the next release unless you do a distribution release upgrade. On , Mark Greenwood wrote: > I subscribe to several RSS feeds and one of them just sent me the > following: > "The Kubuntu Community is pleased to announce plans for the 12.04 LTS > release of Kubuntu. As approved by the Ubuntu Technical Board on January > 9th, 12.04 will be a 5-year long-term support cycle for Kubuntu" > So, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. This is good news, really good > news. So if I install 12.04 I will get updates up to 17.04? Is this > correct? I don't understand this commitment although it sounds really > good. > Or does this mean that 12.04 is the final properly supported release and > (for example) 13.04 will be up in the clouds withe fairies for support? > Only asking, out of inquisitiveness. > Mark > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jriddell at ubuntu.com Thu Mar 1 23:13:15 2012 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 23:13:15 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 1 March 2012 22:52, Mark Greenwood wrote: > I subscribe to several RSS feeds and one of them just sent me the following: > > "The Kubuntu Community is pleased to announce plans for the 12.04 LTS release of Kubuntu. As approved by the Ubuntu Technical Board on January 9th, 12.04 will be a 5-year long-term support cycle for Kubuntu" > > So, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. This is good news, really good news. Thanks for your appreciation. The Kubuntu contributor community will do security updates and major bug fixes for 5 years after the 12.04 LTS release. As that announcement also says Kubuntu will carry on making releases just the same as we have since we started, with our thriving contributor community. Jonathan From fatgerman at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 23:27:36 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 23:27:36 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> On 1 Mar 2012, at 23:13, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On 1 March 2012 22:52, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> I subscribe to several RSS feeds and one of them just sent me the following: >> >> "The Kubuntu Community is pleased to announce plans for the 12.04 LTS release of Kubuntu. As approved by the Ubuntu Technical Board on January 9th, 12.04 will be a 5-year long-term support cycle for Kubuntu" >> >> So, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. This is good news, really good news. > > Thanks for your appreciation. The Kubuntu contributor community will > do security updates and major bug fixes for 5 years after the 12.04 > LTS release. As that announcement also says Kubuntu will carry on > making releases just the same as we have since we started, with our > thriving contributor community. > Thank you Jonathan for the quick response. From this I assume that Kubuntu 12.04 will provide bug fixes for KDE 4.8 for 5 years. I do appreciate the effort involved in this, but it still gives me some questions with reference to Canonical's recent announcement about "pulling the plug" on Kubuntu. As far as I'm concerned, KDE 4.8 is not finished, There are still serious problems with regards to KDE PIM, and power management on laptops (that didn't exist with KDE 3 - so KDE 4 is a backwards step on a lot of my hardware). So if we install Kubuntu 12.04 do we get updates to KDE 4.9 (and 4.10, 4.11 etc) over those 5 years, or do we need to upgrade to newer releases to get improved functionality? 5 years of support is a very nice carrot, but making my hardware work like it used to in 2008 is a bigger stick. I have the feeling that my systems won't work as well as they did with KDE3 until about 2014… do we have the same commitment from Canonical about that release? Believe me I don't want to sound like a sceptic, but I have paying clients who are asking me these questions and I cannot give them honest answers. Mark. > Jonathan > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 23:49:58 2012 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 18:49:58 -0500 Subject: [12.04-Beta1]-VirtualBox Install-No Internet Connection? Message-ID: <4F500B26.9070209@GMail.com> [12.04-Beta1]-VirtualBox Install-No Internet Connection? Hi, Trying to install kubuntu 12.04 64Bit Beta 1 into current VirtualBox. The installer says there is no connection to the Internet? What do I do to solve this problem? Thanks! Jesse From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Fri Mar 2 00:04:59 2012 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:04:59 -0500 Subject: Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? In-Reply-To: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> References: <4F4FAF5B.6090001@GMail.com> Message-ID: <7313853.QQMmHGgHso@kirk> Here is a link to sone torrent files. Ktorrenting the 64 bit version now. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/beta-1/kubuntu-12.04-beta1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/beta-1/kubuntu-12.04-beta1-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent On Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:18:19 Jesse Palser wrote: > Where Is 12.04 Beta 1 Download? > Thanks! > > Jesse > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lahc2007 at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 00:08:03 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 19:08:03 -0500 Subject: [12.04-Beta1]-VirtualBox Install-No Internet Connection? In-Reply-To: <4F500B26.9070209@GMail.com> References: <4F500B26.9070209@GMail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jesse, I find under settings for each new VirtualBox installation there are 4 different network adapters listed and under each one several "Attached to" options. By trial and error I found the one that worked for me (Bridged Adapter). My first choice was NAT, (and I'm sure it was the right one in the past!) but it gave a IP in the 10.X.X.X network, which wasn't what I needed. Bridged gave a 192.168.0.X address which worked with the rest of my network and Internet. On 1 March 2012 18:49, Jesse Palser wrote: > [12.04-Beta1]-VirtualBox Install-No Internet Connection? > > Hi, > > Trying to install kubuntu 12.04 64Bit Beta 1 into current VirtualBox. > > The installer says there is no connection to the Internet? > What do I do to solve this problem? > > Thanks! > Jesse > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From jriddell at ubuntu.com Fri Mar 2 00:16:45 2012 From: jriddell at ubuntu.com (Jonathan Riddell) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 00:16:45 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 1 March 2012 23:27, Mark Greenwood wrote: > Thank you Jonathan for the quick response. From this I assume that Kubuntu 12.04 will provide bug fixes for KDE 4.8 for 5 years. I do appreciate the effort involved in this,  but it still gives me some questions with reference to Canonical's recent announcement about "pulling the plug" on Kubuntu. Canonical has not announced any such thing. I expect you are thinking of one of the misleading media articles. > As far as I'm concerned, KDE 4.8 is not finished Software is never finished. We package the software KDE gives us, and as community members of KDE we fix that too. Bugfixes are available in -updates, new versions in -backports as announced on kubuntu.org. If you have bugs or feature requests you should report those to KDE. Jonathan From fatgerman at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 00:26:16 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 00:26:16 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5F6F7BEA-0409-405B-B557-9C1991D049E6@gmail.com> On 2 Mar 2012, at 00:16, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On 1 March 2012 23:27, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> Thank you Jonathan for the quick response. From this I assume that Kubuntu 12.04 will provide bug fixes for KDE 4.8 for 5 years. I do appreciate the effort involved in this, but it still gives me some questions with reference to Canonical's recent announcement about "pulling the plug" on Kubuntu. > > Canonical has not announced any such thing. I expect you are thinking > of one of the misleading media articles. OK :) Perhaps so. > >> As far as I'm concerned, KDE 4.8 is not finished > > Software is never finished. We package the software KDE gives us, and > as community members of KDE we fix that too. Bugfixes are available > in -updates, new versions in -backports as announced on kubuntu.org. > If you have bugs or feature requests you should report those to KDE. > Understood, but you haven't really answered my question… I understand, software is never finished, trouble is there's a difference between "not finished" and "working OK". KDE 4.8 is not "working OK" for anyone I've installed it for. So if I install Kubuntu 12.04 for them and tell them they get 5 years support, does this include upgrades to KDE 4.9, 4.10 etc, or are they stuck with KDE 4.8 and a few bug fixes?…. suffice to say NONE of my clients (or me) have any faith that KDE will fix any of the serious bugs in 4.8 without a major release upgrade to about 4.12. Mark. > Jonathan > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Fri Mar 2 08:12:23 2012 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:12:23 +0100 Subject: Shut down =?ISO-8859-1?Q?does=B4t_work_Ubuntu_11=2E10?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F5080E7.5090307@xs4all.nl> On 01/03/12 23:48, Henny de Graaf wrote: > Hello, > > My Ubuntu 11.10 doesn´t shut down, the screen comes back with the log > in screen. > I searched with the internet and mayby there´s a problem with ACPI? > This is a bug or not? > Please help, because it´s important to shut down normaly. > > Kind regards, > > Dennis and Harm > > Hi Dennis and Harm, I had the same problem from Fedora, so it is definitely not limited to Ubuntu. Recently I switched to Kubuntu and still have this symptom. Disaster it is not, just clumsy. At the moment I often switch to "su -" and do a manual "shutdown -r now" : this always works. Guus Bonnema. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Fri Mar 2 08:43:58 2012 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 00:43:58 -0800 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:27:36PM +0000, Mark Greenwood wrote: >Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 23:27:36 +0000 >From: Mark Greenwood >Subject: Re: 5 years of support..!!?? > > >On 1 Mar 2012, at 23:13, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >> On 1 March 2012 22:52, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>> I subscribe to several RSS feeds and one of them just sent me the following: >>> >>> "The Kubuntu Community is pleased to announce plans for >>> the 12.04 LTS release of Kubuntu. As approved by the >>> Ubuntu Technical Board on January 9th, 12.04 will be a >>> 5-year long-term support cycle for Kubuntu" >>> >>> So, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. This is good >>> news, really good news. So what does this mean for 10.04 LTS? Just how many long term projects can be supported before quality drops even further into the cesspits? Bill From lahc2007 at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 08:58:09 2012 From: lahc2007 at gmail.com (Leslie Anne Chatterton) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 03:58:09 -0500 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: Bill, It seems to me that it is no more work to support two overlapping LTS than one. Security updates are going to be the same and bug fixes are supplied by the developers. Canonical just packages them and sends then out. I haven't seen, nor do I expect to see, any less quality in Kubuntu. It has certainly improved in my 4 years of using it, in both small and large ways. If you don't like it there is always Windows ;-) Since the next LTS will have 5 years support it wouldn't surprise me if the date for its successor is pushed ahead to 2017. That could save Canonical a lot of work. Sent from my Motorola Xoom Android tablet On Mar 2, 2012 3:42 AM, "Bill Vance" wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:27:36PM +0000, Mark Greenwood wrote: > >Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 23:27:36 +0000 > >From: Mark Greenwood > >Subject: Re: 5 years of support..!!?? > > > > > >On 1 Mar 2012, at 23:13, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > >> On 1 March 2012 22:52, Mark Greenwood wrote: > >>> I subscribe to several RSS feeds and one of them just sent me the > following: > >>> > >>> "The Kubuntu Community is pleased to announce plans for > >>> the 12.04 LTS release of Kubuntu. As approved by the > >>> Ubuntu Technical Board on January 9th, 12.04 will be a > >>> 5-year long-term support cycle for Kubuntu" > >>> > >>> So, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. This is good > >>> news, really good news. > > So what does this mean for 10.04 LTS? Just how many long > term projects can be supported before quality drops even > further into the cesspits? > > Bill > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com Fri Mar 2 09:26:10 2012 From: alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com (Alex Gabriel) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 04:26:10 -0500 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: On 2 March 2012 03:43, Bill Vance wrote: > So what does this mean for 10.04 LTS?  Just how many long > term projects can be supported before quality drops even > further into the cesspits? > > Bill Bill, As noted on the Kubuntu download page [http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block], Kubuntu 10.04 is supported until 2013. This means that updates are available until that time. I don't see supporting multiple projects as an issue. Developers tend to work on one project at a time. While it's possible that the Kubuntu developers will focus on both, I would think it's more likely that development teams are created for the different supported versions. One team would, in theory, work on Kubuntu 10.04, while the other would work on 12.04. Given that Kubuntu 10.04 and 12.04 will simply use slightly different versions of KDE [both being 4.x], I would imagine that integrating changes to both KDE versions is not that difficult. I'm sure the majority of the work on the different LTS versions of KDE would focus mainly on security and bugs fixes inherent within Kubuntu. The above two paragraphs are written without any knowledge whatsoever of the workings of development on Kubuntu, so I could be horribly wrong on all points. The majority of the problems of which I'm aware on Kubuntu aren't isolated to Kubuntu, actually. More often than not, the problems relate to the desktop environment. I've seen, as an example of a recently posted question, power issues with Debian, openSUSE, and PCLinuxOS, to name the few I run into most often. Another example of an issue I've experienced is that KDE will crash when an OpenGL screensaver is running and the user attempts to access the desktop. Rather than displaying the unlock screen, KDE crashes entirely and restarts, reverting back to KDM, waiting patiently for login credentials. I've seen that specific behaviour on my Kubuntu netbook, notebook, and desktop, as well as on my wife's PCLinuxOS notebook. Indicating that quality has decreased is a subjective statement. I use Kubuntu extensively both at home and work, and haven't noticed any glaring issues. Certainly, some changes have been rather sudden [Muon software centre replacing KPackageKit is an example], but they can be obviated [using CLI tools instead of the graphical interface] or minimized [installing all the software you require in one session]. My only complaint stems from the inability to select a default workspace during the installation [I often use a netbook connected to an external monitor]. Otherwise, I've not comes across any major issues specifically related to Kubuntu that couldn't be fixed by either doing some research into the problem or by using an alternate tool to accomplish the same task. If you've encountered problems with the version of Kubuntu you're using, by all means, please share them with the readers of the list, since someone here may be able to assist you in resolving the problem. Alex Gabriel Dimensia Design Studio alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com From fatgerman at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 09:42:05 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 09:42:05 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: On 2 Mar 2012, at 09:26, Alex Gabriel wrote: > > > Indicating that quality has decreased is a subjective statement. Well yes and no. Let's compare where I am with Kubuntu today to where I was when I had Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 on it, which must be 3 years ago now. Back then, the laptop power management options worked. Today the 'shut down after x minutes of inactivity' is broken, the 'sleep when I close the lid' is broken, and even if it does sleep I have no networking when it wakes. Back then I had an email client that worked. Today I have one that, with a great amount of annoying fiddling, will retrieve my email but not without using 75% of my CPU for about two hours. (Honestly, I'm not making that up, that is really what happens when I start KMail, every time. And I know I'm not alone.) I could go on but it would turn into a rant and that's not the point. The point is that Kubutnu - or rather KDE - today is less functional than it was 3 years ago. That's not a subjective statement - it's a fact. The developers will no doubt say that "Oh you only need to do x and y and z and spin round 3 times while chanting 'i hate windows'". That is not the point. Back then, I didn't have to do those things. This is not progress however pretty and shiny you make it look. Which brings me back to my original point. While I am glad that we have a long term support commitment from Canonical, it would be a real shame if the 5 year supported release of Kubuntu was stuck with KDE 4.8 for 5 years - you'd hope that KDE would eventually start working properly again at some point before 2017 and what I want to know is will the LTS be upgraded to new versions of KDE as they come out or will it remain stuck with the unfinished, malfunctional KDE 4.8? Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com Fri Mar 2 10:00:49 2012 From: alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com (Alex Gabriel) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 05:00:49 -0500 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: Mark, The problems you've noted have come up across multiple distros that I've seen, so I don't doubt that you're experiencing them, nor do I think they are occurring in isolation. A simple query via your search engine of choice will reveal many people experiencing these issues. I've seen the issues with KMail myself, and thus I know it's not exaggeration when you say that it uses 75% of your processor. It's come up in my use of the distros I noted in the past, and subsequent updates to KDE appear to have resolved them for the installations I have. I've not done anything more than install the updates that are available for my system. My system doesn't include anything exotic or software that came from a source other than the default repositores. I'd say try running 11.10 [the version I run] in a VM, update it, and see if the behaviour occurs with the test environment. As for the plans Canonical has with updates to KDE, the only way to get an answer to that is to contact them directly. I would think that as the interface is updated, so too will the distro. I've not run 10.04 in quite some time, though, so I've no idea whether minor version changes are applied to KDE, or whether only bug fixes are included with updates. Alex Gabriel Dimensia Design Studio alexgabriel at dimensiadesign.com On 2 March 2012 04:42, Mark Greenwood wrote: > Well yes and no. Let's compare where I am with Kubuntu today to where I was > when I had Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 on it, which must be 3 years ago now. > > Back then, the laptop power management options worked. Today the 'shut down > after x minutes of inactivity' is broken, the 'sleep when I close the lid' > is broken, and even if it does sleep I have no networking when it wakes. > > Back then I had an email client that worked. Today I have one that, with a > great amount of annoying fiddling, will retrieve my email but not without > using 75% of my CPU for about two hours. (Honestly, I'm not making that up, > that is really what happens when I start KMail, every time. And I know I'm > not alone.) > > I could go on but it would turn into a rant and that's not the point. The > point is that Kubutnu - or rather KDE - today is less functional than it was > 3 years ago. That's not a subjective statement - it's a fact. > > The developers will no doubt say that "Oh you only need to do x and y and z > and spin round 3 times while chanting 'i hate windows'". That is not the > point. Back then, I didn't have to do those things. This is not progress > however pretty and shiny you make it look. > > Which brings me back to my original point. While I am glad that we have a > long term support commitment from Canonical, it would be a real shame if the > 5 year supported release of Kubuntu was stuck with KDE 4.8 for 5 years - > you'd hope that KDE would eventually start working properly again at some > point before 2017 and what I want to know is will the LTS be upgraded to new > versions of KDE as they come out or will it remain stuck with the > unfinished, malfunctional KDE 4.8? > > Mark From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 11:12:29 2012 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:12:29 -0500 Subject: [12.04-Beta1]-VirtualBox Install-"Installer Crashed" ??? Message-ID: <4F50AB1D.3030309@GMail.com> [12.04-Beta1]-VirtualBox Install-"Installer Crashed" ??? Hi, Trying to install kubuntu 12.04 64Bit Beta 1 into current VirtualBox 4.1.8 on LinuxMint 12 KDE 64Bit host. The OS refuses to install. I receive the following error message: ___________________________________________________________________________ Installer Crashed We're sorry; the installer crashed. Please file a new bug report using the command 'ubuntu-bug ubiquity' in terminal. This will gather information about your system and your installation process. The details will be sent to our bug tracker and a developer will attend to the problem as soon as ___________________________________________________________________________ How do I fix this error and install kubuntu 12.04 64Bit Beta 1? Thanks! Jesse From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Mar 2 12:05:23 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 07:05:23 -0500 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <201203020705.23312.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday, March 02, 2012 06:44:55 AM Bill Vance did opine: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:27:36PM +0000, Mark Greenwood wrote: > >Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 23:27:36 +0000 > >From: Mark Greenwood > >Subject: Re: 5 years of support..!!?? > > > >On 1 Mar 2012, at 23:13, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >> On 1 March 2012 22:52, Mark Greenwood wrote: > >>> I subscribe to several RSS feeds and one of them just sent me the > >>> following: > >>> > >>> "The Kubuntu Community is pleased to announce plans for > >>> the 12.04 LTS release of Kubuntu. As approved by the > >>> Ubuntu Technical Board on January 9th, 12.04 will be a > >>> 5-year long-term support cycle for Kubuntu" > >>> > >>> So, 12.04 will be supported for 5 years. This is good > >>> news, really good news. > > So what does this mean for 10.04 LTS? Just how many long > term projects can be supported before quality drops even > further into the cesspits? > > Bill I think that is an excellent question. I have a situation using 10.04 LTS in my shop in that I cannot ssh into my cnc controller from my laptop, both running 10.04 without opening a huge security hole into my own local network when I power up the router/ap out in that outbuilding, and its entirely related to the version of wpa_supplicant that 10.04 LTS has 'frozen into' 10.04, its incapable to doing anything more secure than WEP. The rest of the world has had WPA2/AES etc abilities for nearly 2 years now, but we can't get it on 10.04 LTS? IMO that doesn't seem to fit the scenario I have in mind for open source. So I am disappointed, and cannot wait for LinuxCNC to migrate their RTAI kernel to 12.04. Since that freezes the kernel, its doubtful that will take place until 12.04 has had time for its kernel to mature, probably 2-3 months after the official release. One would think that fixing a security hole that big would make it worthwhile to update wpa_supplicant and the crypto libs it needs would be of sufficiently high priority to force the update, but its never happened. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: "It ain't over until it's over." -- Casey Stengel From kassube at gmx.net Fri Mar 2 12:36:26 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:36:26 +0100 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <201203020705.23312.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> <201203020705.23312.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201203021336.26895.kassube@gmx.net> gene heskett wrote: > I think that is an excellent question. I have a situation using > 10.04 LTS in my shop in that I cannot ssh into my cnc controller > from my laptop, both running 10.04 without opening a huge security > hole into my own local network when I power up the router/ap out in > that outbuilding, and its entirely related to the version of > wpa_supplicant that 10.04 LTS has 'frozen into' 10.04, its incapable > to doing anything more secure than WEP. The rest of the world has > had WPA2/AES etc abilities for nearly 2 years now, but we can't get > it on 10.04 LTS? Maybe I don't really understand your problem, but I'm using only WPA2 on my WLAN, running 10.04 on the client machines. Can you point to the bug report that describes the problem? Nils From bilwalsh at swbell.net Fri Mar 2 12:58:10 2012 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:58:10 -0600 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> Message-ID: <4F50C3E2.4070200@swbell.net> On 03/02/2012 03:42 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > Well yes and no. Let's compare where I am with Kubuntu today to where I > was when I had Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 on it, which must be 3 years ago now. > > Back then, the laptop power management options worked. Today the 'shut > down after x minutes of inactivity' is broken, the 'sleep when I close > the lid' is broken, and even if it does sleep I have no networking when > it wakes. > > Back then I had an email client that worked. Today I have one that, with > a great amount of annoying fiddling, will retrieve my email but not > without using 75% of my CPU for about two hours. (Honestly, I'm not > making that up, that is really what happens when I start KMail, every > time. And I know I'm not alone.) > > I could go on but it would turn into a rant and that's not the point. > The point is that Kubutnu - or rather KDE - today is less functional > than it was 3 years ago. That's not a subjective statement - it's a fact. I think your issues, as well as others, are somewhat subjective. It depends on the machine and software to some extent. I have Kubuntu 11.10, fully up to date, installed on a desktop, a laptop and a netbook and I experience none of the issues you talk about. Sleep works flawlessly on my laptop, haven't tried it on my netbook. Power management, low battery, works flawlessly. With all the issues I see everyone having with Kmail, and because I've used Thunderbird since it's very first release, I have never used kmail, and most likely never will. Networking is flawless, both wired and wireless [ I just wish they would make the GUI for it standard from one update to the next - it's a pain trying to find the right "button" after an "update" ] I sit here day after day and read all about how this person has issues with this and that person has an issue with that. I wonder to myself, "what have these people done to their machine." Mine works great. No issues. OK, I'll admit that none of my machines are bleeding edge. Just basic, off the shelf, consumer grade hardware. I don't go in for whiz-bang stuff like spinning desktops and such. -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From fatgerman at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 13:22:38 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:22:38 +0000 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <4F50C3E2.4070200@swbell.net> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <3D65FF90-CE32-4C76-837A-015E672DB818@gmail.com> <20120302084358.GA13197@xpresso.seaslug.org> <4F50C3E2.4070200@swbell.net> Message-ID: <92D7969C-4631-4241-9DFE-5392C2A45B01@gmail.com> On 2 Mar 2012, at 12:58, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 03/02/2012 03:42 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> Well yes and no. Let's compare where I am with Kubuntu today to where I >> was when I had Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 on it, which must be 3 years ago now. >> >> Back then, the laptop power management options worked. Today the 'shut >> down after x minutes of inactivity' is broken, the 'sleep when I close >> the lid' is broken, and even if it does sleep I have no networking when >> it wakes. >> >> Back then I had an email client that worked. Today I have one that, with >> a great amount of annoying fiddling, will retrieve my email but not >> without using 75% of my CPU for about two hours. (Honestly, I'm not >> making that up, that is really what happens when I start KMail, every >> time. And I know I'm not alone.) >> >> I could go on but it would turn into a rant and that's not the point. >> The point is that Kubutnu - or rather KDE - today is less functional >> than it was 3 years ago. That's not a subjective statement - it's a fact. > > I think your issues, as well as others, are somewhat subjective. It depends on the machine and software to some extent. I have Kubuntu 11.10, fully up to date, installed on a desktop, a laptop and a netbook and I experience none of the issues you talk about. Sleep works flawlessly on my laptop, haven't tried it on my netbook. Power management, low battery, works flawlessly. With all the issues I see everyone having with Kmail, and because I've used Thunderbird since it's very first release, I have never used kmail, and most likely never will. Networking is flawless, both wired and wireless [ I just wish they would make the GUI for it standard from one update to the next - it's a pain trying to find the right "button" after an "update" ] I understand you, but bugs aren't subjective. They're bugs. What works on one machine doesn't work on another and that's a bug not an opinion. If it's incorrect behaviour that I can reproduce every time by doing the same thing, then it's not subjective. > > I sit here day after day and read all about how this person has issues with this and that person has an issue with that. I wonder to myself, "what have these people done to their machine." Mine works great. No issues. That's great. For you. Doesn't help me though. I'm running 11.10 on a laptop that ran whatever-release-last-had-KDE3 flawlessly, and I have all the issues I mention. Most of it works in Ubuntu (where there is an equivalent) so the issues are with KDE. I haven't done anything to the machine except a clean install of 11.10. And the attitude of "works for me so you must be doing it wrong" is what I mostly get when I log bugs at KDE so I've given up logging bugs. There doesn't seem to be any commitment to making KDE4 stable and reliable, they just keep inserting new stuff that hasn't been tested properly (or at all) and expecting us to lump it. We've had two years (at least) of this since we last had a really stable KDE desktop and there doesn't look to be any imminent chance of getting back to something stable any time soon, so when people say quality is diminishing, that's why. It's gone on too long. I sit here all day and read all about how this person uses Thunderbird to get around the KMail issues and that person got something to work by hand-crafting shell scripts and I wonder to myself "Why do we put up with this?". (My answer is, I don't put up with it any more, I use a Mac for all my day-to-day stuff that I need to just work. KDE4 made me an Apple customer.) Mark > > OK, I'll admit that none of my machines are bleeding edge. Just basic, off the shelf, consumer grade hardware. I don't go in for whiz-bang stuff like spinning desktops and such. > > -- > “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. > > - Patrick Henry - > > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Mar 2 13:29:33 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:29:33 -0500 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <201203021336.26895.kassube@gmx.net> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <201203020705.23312.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201203021336.26895.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201203020829.33814.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday, March 02, 2012 08:10:01 AM Nils Kassube did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > I think that is an excellent question. I have a situation using > > 10.04 LTS in my shop in that I cannot ssh into my cnc controller > > from my laptop, both running 10.04 without opening a huge security > > hole into my own local network when I power up the router/ap out in > > that outbuilding, and its entirely related to the version of > > wpa_supplicant that 10.04 LTS has 'frozen into' 10.04, its incapable > > to doing anything more secure than WEP. The rest of the world has > > had WPA2/AES etc abilities for nearly 2 years now, but we can't get > > it on 10.04 LTS? > > Maybe I don't really understand your problem, but I'm using only WPA2 on > my WLAN, running 10.04 on the client machines. Can you point to the bug > report that describes the problem? > > > Nils If you have WPA2/AES or TKIP working on 10.04, perhaps you can point me to a tutorial? I haven't filed a recent bug report, since I figure it already has been. The one time I fussed, about a year ago, it was canceled with a "won't fix". Unforch, I didn't bookmark it. The newest wpa_supplicant is 6.9-3, and I have been repeatedly told that full WPA2 support requires 7.3. I haven't had the laptop connected since last fall but will probably set it up and update it in the next couple of weeks once I get done with the lathes cnc conversion. Unforch, the computer I was going to run my lathe with, is out of stock. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: "If you lived today as if it were your last, you'd buy up a box of rockets and fire them all off, wouldn't you?" -- Garrison Keillor From rtgkid at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 14:29:39 2012 From: rtgkid at gmail.com (Ryan Gauger) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:29:39 -0600 Subject: Shut down =?ISO-8859-1?Q?does=B4t_work_Ubuntu_11=2E10?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F50D953.1040905@gmail.com> On 03/01/2012 04:48 PM, Henny de Graaf wrote: > Hello, > > My Ubuntu 11.10 doesn´t shut down, the screen comes back with the log > in screen. > I searched with the internet and mayby there´s a problem with ACPI? > This is a bug or not? > Please help, because it´s important to shut down normaly. > > Kind regards, > > Dennis and Harm > > Dennis and Harm, This is a known bug. This has happened to me before. All you need to do is press the power button at the top corner of the screen, and then click "Shut Down". This will shut down Ubuntu. Again, this happens occasionally to me. Thanks!!! ---Ryan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Fri Mar 2 15:45:28 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 16:45:28 +0100 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <201203020829.33814.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <201203021336.26895.kassube@gmx.net> <201203020829.33814.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201203021645.28104.kassube@gmx.net> gene heskett wrote: > On Friday, March 02, 2012 08:10:01 AM Nils Kassube did opine: > > gene heskett wrote: > > > I think that is an excellent question. I have a situation using > > > 10.04 LTS in my shop in that I cannot ssh into my cnc controller > > > from my laptop, both running 10.04 without opening a huge > > > security hole into my own local network when I power up the > > > router/ap out in that outbuilding, and its entirely related to > > > the version of wpa_supplicant that 10.04 LTS has 'frozen into' > > > 10.04, its incapable to doing anything more secure than WEP. The > > > rest of the world has had WPA2/AES etc abilities for nearly 2 > > > years now, but we can't get it on 10.04 LTS? > > > > Maybe I don't really understand your problem, but I'm using only > > WPA2 on my WLAN, running 10.04 on the client machines. Can you > > point to the bug report that describes the problem? > > If you have WPA2/AES or TKIP working on 10.04, perhaps you can point > me to a tutorial? Actually I didn't use a tutorial but the standard tools, i.e. it works with network-manager but I prefer wicd. Just make sure you don't have them both installed, otherwise they seem to fight for controlling the wireless interface ond none of them wins. So maybe it is a problem of your wireless hardware in the client machine? Here it is working with drivers ipw2200, ath5k, ath9k and ath9k_htc. And there is a third option which I use also. You can set up the wireless interface in "/etc/network/interfaces" for a fixed IP address if you use a section like this: auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static # Configuration for WPA2 / CCMP wpa-driver wext wpa-ssid MYSSID wpa-ap-scan 2 wpa-proto WPA2 wpa-pairwise CCMP wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK wpa-psk 59e0d07fa4c7741797a4e394f38a5c321e3bed51d54ad5fcbd3f84bc7415d73d # psk from the command "wpa_passphrase MYSSID passphrase" address 192.168.2.59 network 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.2.255 gateway 192.168.2.1 Of course you would replace interface name, SSID, psk and addresses according to your network. BTW: In 12.04 all three methods work as well. > The newest wpa_supplicant is 6.9-3, and I have been repeatedly told > that full WPA2 support requires 7.3. Interesting - then the question is what is missing in 6.9-3 which makes it work here but not for you. 12.04 comes with version 0.7.3 btw. Nils From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Fri Mar 2 15:52:27 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:52:27 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound Message-ID: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> I have acquired a Logitech C310 webcam. Looking around Google it is supposed to work 'out of the box' on Linux. Well ... Guvcview shows a picture. I can take a video but it won't play back. It saves as an .avi file but will not play. Still photos are fine. Cheese, shows a picture. Still photos are fine. I can take and play back a video but no sound. Yes, I have looked around and also made sure that all my microphones sliders are on in pavucontrol. Anyone point me in the right direction please? Neil From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Mar 2 18:10:25 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:10:25 -0500 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <201203021645.28104.kassube@gmx.net> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <201203020829.33814.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201203021645.28104.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201203021310.25726.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday, March 02, 2012 12:46:04 PM Nils Kassube did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > On Friday, March 02, 2012 08:10:01 AM Nils Kassube did opine: > > > gene heskett wrote: > > > > I think that is an excellent question. I have a situation using > > > > 10.04 LTS in my shop in that I cannot ssh into my cnc controller > > > > from my laptop, both running 10.04 without opening a huge > > > > security hole into my own local network when I power up the > > > > router/ap out in that outbuilding, and its entirely related to > > > > the version of wpa_supplicant that 10.04 LTS has 'frozen into' > > > > 10.04, its incapable to doing anything more secure than WEP. The > > > > rest of the world has had WPA2/AES etc abilities for nearly 2 > > > > years now, but we can't get it on 10.04 LTS? > > > > > > Maybe I don't really understand your problem, but I'm using only > > > WPA2 on my WLAN, running 10.04 on the client machines. Can you > > > point to the bug report that describes the problem? > > > > If you have WPA2/AES or TKIP working on 10.04, perhaps you can point > > me to a tutorial? > > Actually I didn't use a tutorial but the standard tools, i.e. it works > with network-manager but I prefer wicd. Just make sure you don't have > them both installed, otherwise they seem to fight for controlling the > wireless interface ond none of them wins. So maybe it is a problem of > your wireless hardware in the client machine? Here it is working with > drivers ipw2200, ath5k, ath9k and ath9k_htc. > > And there is a third option which I use also. You can set up the > wireless interface in "/etc/network/interfaces" for a fixed IP address > if you use a section like this: printed, thanks! > auto wlan0 > iface wlan0 inet static > # Configuration for WPA2 / CCMP > wpa-driver wext > wpa-ssid MYSSID > wpa-ap-scan 2 > wpa-proto WPA2 > wpa-pairwise CCMP > wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK > wpa-psk long hash phrase > # psk from the command "wpa_passphrase MYSSID passphrase" > address 192.168.2.59 > network 192.168.2.0 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > broadcast 192.168.2.255 > gateway 192.168.2.1 Interesting. Where are the manpages that explain all these wpa-**** settings? Obviously I need to learn more, lots more about this. None of my man this or man that seems to have popped up any such references. None of which is any great help with the builtin interface in that lappy, which I have disabled & am using a netgear usb dongle, which does work. Builtin in a BCM-4318, the most broken broadcom chipset ever IMO. 6 feet from the AP and it drops the connection it took 20 minutes of screwing around to establish, in about another 20 minutes. BS is what that is. > Of course you would replace interface name, SSID, psk and addresses > according to your network. BTW: In 12.04 all three methods work as well. > > > The newest wpa_supplicant is 6.9-3, and I have been repeatedly told > > that full WPA2 support requires 7.3. > > Interesting - then the question is what is missing in 6.9-3 which makes > it work here but not for you. 12.04 comes with version 0.7.3 btw. > > > Nils Precisely my point Nils. I have tried to build 7.3 on that machine, but there seem to be more dependencies than I could track at the time. However, my interfaces file is much simpler than that, and I never heard of that command you used to generate the key hash. Here, I have it setup using a phrase that could be the opening paragraph of a novel I'll likely never write, but which is easy enough for me to remember. A neighbors frontier net connection went south just this past Monday & she brought her winders lappy over, I entered that 160+ character passphrase and it worked flawlessly. Your recipe above, with mods because I too use fixed addresses on my home network, may be just what the doctor ordered, thank you very much for sharing. I did wipe out that hash though, no use propagating that all over the cosmos leading to an exploit of your system. Thank you very much Nils, this is a very educational msg on a subject that seems to depend on obscurity for the majority of its so-called security. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: Your boss climbed the corporate ladder, wrong by wrong. From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Mar 2 18:14:40 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:14:40 -0500 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <201203021314.40240.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday, March 02, 2012 01:13:35 PM Neil Winchurst did opine: > I have acquired a Logitech C310 webcam. Looking around Google it is > supposed to work 'out of the box' on Linux. Well ... > > Guvcview shows a picture. I can take a video but it won't play back. It > saves as an .avi file but will not play. Still photos are fine. > > Cheese, shows a picture. Still photos are fine. I can take and play back > a video but no sound. Yes, I have looked around and also made sure that > all my microphones sliders are on in pavucontrol. > > Anyone point me in the right direction please? > > Neil FWIW Neil, I have a similar usb webcam, and cheese is likewise silent here. So I'll be following this thread. :) Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: Children begin by loving their parents. After a time they judge them. Rarely, if ever, do they forgive them. -- Oscar Wilde From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Fri Mar 2 19:07:24 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 21:07:24 +0200 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F511A6C.8040300@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/02/2012 05:52 PM, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have acquired a Logitech C310 webcam. Looking around Google it is > supposed to work 'out of the box' on Linux. Well ... > > Guvcview shows a picture. I can take a video but it won't play back. It > saves as an .avi file but will not play. Still photos are fine. > > Cheese, shows a picture. Still photos are fine. I can take and play back > a video but no sound. Yes, I have looked around and also made sure that > all my microphones sliders are on in pavucontrol. > > Anyone point me in the right direction please? > > Neil > I too have a similar webcam and also in the same boat -- but if you install audacity it will record and play back sound files no problem..... so I don't know why sound and webcams doesn't work...... I too hope there is an answer.... Nigel From d.kardarakos at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 19:32:50 2012 From: d.kardarakos at gmail.com (Dimitris Kardarakos) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 21:32:50 +0200 Subject: Shut down =?ISO-8859-1?Q?does=B4t_work_Ubuntu_11=2E10?= In-Reply-To: <4F50D953.1040905@gmail.com> References: <4F50D953.1040905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F512062.1040904@gmail.com> On 03/02/2012 04:29 PM, Ryan Gauger wrote: > On 03/01/2012 04:48 PM, Henny de Graaf wrote: >> Hello, >> >> My Ubuntu 11.10 doesn´t shut down, the screen comes back with the log >> in screen. >> I searched with the internet and mayby there´s a problem with ACPI? >> This is a bug or not? >> Please help, because it´s important to shut down normaly. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Dennis and Harm >> >> > Dennis and Harm, > > This is a known bug. This has happened to me before. All you need to > do is press the power button at the top corner of the screen, and then > click "Shut Down". This will shut down Ubuntu. Again, this happens > occasionally to me. Thanks!!! > > ---Ryan > > I face this issue when amarok or clementine creates/loads its library. I could generalize saying that the issue occurs when a process has open files. You can check sth like this. -- Dimitris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Fri Mar 2 19:34:22 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 20:34:22 +0100 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <201203021310.25726.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <201203021645.28104.kassube@gmx.net> <201203021310.25726.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201203022034.22567.kassube@gmx.net> gene heskett wrote: > On Friday, March 02, 2012 12:46:04 PM Nils Kassube did opine: > > auto wlan0 > > iface wlan0 inet static > > # Configuration for WPA2 / CCMP > > > > wpa-driver wext > > wpa-ssid MYSSID > > wpa-ap-scan 2 > > wpa-proto WPA2 > > wpa-pairwise CCMP > > wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK > > wpa-psk long hash phrase > > # psk from the command "wpa_passphrase MYSSID passphrase" > > address 192.168.2.59 > > network 192.168.2.0 > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > broadcast 192.168.2.255 > > gateway 192.168.2.1 > > Interesting. > > Where are the manpages that explain all these wpa-**** settings? Good question! I had to search a bit to find the file with the relevant info which I probably used: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz What I didn't mention, though: If you use that static setup you should write your nameserver to "/etc/resolv.conf". > However, my interfaces file is much simpler than that, and I never > heard of that command you used to generate the key hash. It comes with the wpasupplicant package. > Here, I > have it setup using a phrase that could be the opening paragraph of > a novel I'll likely never write, but which is easy enough for me to > remember. A neighbors frontier net connection went south just this > past Monday & she brought her winders lappy over, I entered that > 160+ character passphrase and it worked flawlessly. 160+ characters? For a WPA/WPA2 passphrase there is a limit of 63 characters. I suppose I used something like "pwgen -cns 63" to generate the passphrase - it is stored in a text file and copy & paste prevents typos. > Your recipe above, with mods because I too use fixed addresses on my > home network, may be just what the doctor ordered, thank you very > much for sharing. I did wipe out that hash though, no use > propagating that all over the cosmos leading to an exploit of your > system. LOL! Of course it wasn't my hash, but thanks for your concern. Actually I literally used the command mentioned to get the hash. Nils From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Mar 2 23:00:58 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:00:58 -0500 Subject: 5 years of support..!!?? In-Reply-To: <201203022034.22567.kassube@gmx.net> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <201203021310.25726.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201203022034.22567.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201203021800.59078.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday, March 02, 2012 05:32:12 PM Nils Kassube did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > On Friday, March 02, 2012 12:46:04 PM Nils Kassube did opine: > > > auto wlan0 > > > iface wlan0 inet static > > > # Configuration for WPA2 / CCMP > > > > > > wpa-driver wext > > > wpa-ssid MYSSID > > > wpa-ap-scan 2 > > > wpa-proto WPA2 > > > wpa-pairwise CCMP > > > wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK > > > wpa-psk long hash phrase > > > # psk from the command "wpa_passphrase MYSSID passphrase" > > > address 192.168.2.59 > > > network 192.168.2.0 > > > netmask 255.255.255.0 > > > broadcast 192.168.2.255 > > > gateway 192.168.2.1 > > > > Interesting. > > > > Where are the manpages that explain all these wpa-**** settings? > > Good question! I had to search a bit to find the file with the relevant > info which I probably used: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz > > What I didn't mention, though: If you use that static setup you should > write your nameserver to "/etc/resolv.conf". > > > However, my interfaces file is much simpler than that, and I never > > heard of that command you used to generate the key hash. > > It comes with the wpasupplicant package. > > > Here, I > > have it setup using a phrase that could be the opening paragraph of > > a novel I'll likely never write, but which is easy enough for me to > > remember. A neighbors frontier net connection went south just this > > past Monday & she brought her winders lappy over, I entered that > > 160+ character passphrase and it worked flawlessly. > > 160+ characters? For a WPA/WPA2 passphrase there is a limit of 63 > characters. I suppose I used something like "pwgen -cns 63" to generate > the passphrase - it is stored in a text file and copy & paste prevents > typos. > > > Your recipe above, with mods because I too use fixed addresses on my > > home network, may be just what the doctor ordered, thank you very > > much for sharing. I did wipe out that hash though, no use > > propagating that all over the cosmos leading to an exploit of your > > system. > > LOL! Of course it wasn't my hash, but thanks for your concern. Actually > I literally used the command mentioned to get the hash. > > > Nils Well, at this point it is all moot. I haven't powered up this lappy in about 6 months. 6 months ago ndiswrapper, using bcmwlhigh5 worked absolutely bullet proof, in the shop, against Linda's frontier supplied router up in NY, and in a motel in Orlando. So I plugged it in and edited the interfaces file even before I'd plugged in a cat5 in case I needed something. But no led can be seen on the dongle, and when I check the logs, loadndisdriver is failing to load bcmwlhigh5, giving no reason. So I try to install the driver again but it claims its already installed. To top that off, I apparently lost the pw to the router I was using as an AP out there in the shop(its been 6 months since I used it), so I did the powerup, holding the reset button down for 30 seconds thing, and now its disappeared. Brand new router, 7 months ago, only been powered up 3 or 4 days in that time. I am beginning to develop an extreme distaste for netgear crap. Which means I am about to order another buffalo running dd- wrt. I can at least get good support from dd-wrt when it turned out that buffalo's branded version of dd-wrt was broken. That may be fixable, but dammit, where can I buy a 802-11g/n dongle that linux supports right out of the GD box? This lappy has a bcm4318 pcmcia card in it, and despite the progress with the b43 driver, it has yet to keep a connection alive more than 5 minutes, 9 feet from the AP. Biggest POS Broadcom ever sold IMO. Had I a clue as to how big a headache that bcm4318 was going to be, I would have warrantied it till they put something better in it. Hind sight, 20-05 of course... I want something that Just Works(TM) when I plug it into either the cat5 socket, or a usb socket, so what do I go shopping for? Sorry for the shortness but wifi on this lappy has been a problem child, usually pitching a tantrum without a single meaningful error msg since I bought it 6 or 7 years ago. Thanks for reading this far. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: ... I want FORTY-TWO TRYNEL FLOATATION SYSTEMS installed within SIX AND A HALF HOURS!!! From clay at claydoh.com Sat Mar 3 00:16:21 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:16:21 -0500 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <2169683.CKWTUkPVWH@lark-latitude-d630> On Friday, March 02, 2012 03:52:27 PM Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have acquired a Logitech C310 webcam. Looking around Google it is > supposed to work 'out of the box' on Linux. Well ... > > Guvcview shows a picture. I can take a video but it won't play back. It > saves as an .avi file but will not play. Still photos are fine. > > Cheese, shows a picture. Still photos are fine. I can take and play back > a video but no sound. Yes, I have looked around and also made sure that > all my microphones sliders are on in pavucontrol. > > Anyone point me in the right direction please? > > Neil Something to check is if it is actually a software problem instead of a webcam/audio problem. My similar c510 (which uses the same uvc driver) works out of the box in Google talk, with audio, with nothing more than selecting the correct sound device in the google settings. Same with web clients for ustream and justin.tv. I did have skype working with the webcam's mic, but cannot remember what I had to to to get it working correctly as I don't often use Skype anymore, and on my phone if I do. guvcview in Oneiric has some bugs, even crashes, in this unsupported Universe package. I used a more up-to-date package from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~pj-assis/+archive/ppa and now get sound with my video recording on my Logitech. I don't think Cheese does audio, nor does KDE's Kamoso. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org http://emacdogsports.com From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat Mar 3 01:31:11 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 12:31:11 +1100 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> On 03/03/12 02:52, Neil Winchurst wrote: > I have acquired a Logitech C310 webcam. Looking around Google it is > supposed to work 'out of the box' on Linux. Well ... > > Guvcview shows a picture. I can take a video but it won't play back. It > saves as an .avi file but will not play. Still photos are fine. > > Cheese, shows a picture. Still photos are fine. I can take and play back > a video but no sound. Yes, I have looked around and also made sure that > all my microphones sliders are on in pavucontrol. > > Anyone point me in the right direction please? Pulse audio (pavucontrol) sits on top of alsa so what you need to do is to use alsamixer first, select your audio card [use the F5 key to see all channels and F6 key for the audio card] then make sure that you have the appropriate channels selected (ie, unmuted and you mute/unmute them by using the "m" key). While doing the playing around with the channels have what you want to hear playing so that when you unmute a channel you will hear the audio being played. Just a note here: there are situations where having a combination of 2 channels unmuted can actually prevent the audio from being heard - I don't remember what they may be but just be aware when you start fiddling with the channels; you will soon enough hit on the right setup. Once you have sound thru alsamixer go back to pavucontrol and set that up to get your sound using pavucontrol. BC -- I'd rather live one more day as a wolf than an entire life as a lamb. From kassube at gmx.net Sat Mar 3 07:06:43 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 08:06:43 +0100 Subject: WLAN stuff [was: Re: 5 years of support..!!??] In-Reply-To: <201203021800.59078.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <201203022034.22567.kassube@gmx.net> <201203021800.59078.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201203030806.43685.kassube@gmx.net> gene heskett wrote: > Well, at this point it is all moot. I haven't powered up this lappy > in about 6 months. 6 months ago ndiswrapper, using bcmwlhigh5 > worked absolutely bullet proof, in the shop, against Linda's > frontier supplied router up in NY, and in a motel in Orlando. So I > plugged it in and edited the interfaces file even before I'd plugged > in a cat5 in case I needed something. But no led can be seen on the > dongle, and when I check the logs, loadndisdriver is failing to load > bcmwlhigh5, giving no reason. So I try to install the driver again > but it claims its already installed. > > To top that off, I apparently lost the pw to the router I was using > as an AP out there in the shop(its been 6 months since I used it), > so I did the powerup, holding the reset button down for 30 seconds > thing, and now its disappeared. Brand new router, 7 months ago, > only been powered up 3 or 4 days in that time. I am beginning to > develop an extreme distaste for netgear crap. Which means I am > about to order another buffalo running dd- wrt. I can at least get > good support from dd-wrt when it turned out that buffalo's branded > version of dd-wrt was broken. I don't know about that buffalo thing you're talking about, but if it isn't capable of 802.11n, I can recommend the TP-Link TL-WN1043ND. I'm using it with openwrt, but maybe there is also a dd-wrt port for it, if you prefer that software. > That may be fixable, but dammit, where can I buy a 802-11g/n dongle > that linux supports right out of the GD box? I'm using the TP-Link TL-WN821N USB dongle here. It is supported out of the box from Natty onwards. For 10.04 you need the linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic package (or *-generic-pae depending on your kernel version) or at least the 2.6.38 kernel (there are backported kernels from Natty and Oneiric in the repos). And you need a newer linux-firmware package, e.g. . BTW: Router and dongle are both using Atheros chips, so no Broadcom involved. Nils From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat Mar 3 08:11:51 2012 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (gene heskett) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 03:11:51 -0500 Subject: WLAN stuff [was: Re: 5 years of support..!!??] In-Reply-To: <201203030806.43685.kassube@gmx.net> References: <86EF771F-DD2F-452D-9478-F5815CEC2DF3@gmail.com> <201203021800.59078.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201203030806.43685.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201203030311.51618.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday, March 03, 2012 02:58:18 AM Nils Kassube did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > Well, at this point it is all moot. I haven't powered up this lappy > > in about 6 months. 6 months ago ndiswrapper, using bcmwlhigh5 > > worked absolutely bullet proof, in the shop, against Linda's > > frontier supplied router up in NY, and in a motel in Orlando. So I > > plugged it in and edited the interfaces file even before I'd plugged > > in a cat5 in case I needed something. But no led can be seen on the > > dongle, and when I check the logs, loadndisdriver is failing to load > > bcmwlhigh5, giving no reason. So I try to install the driver again > > but it claims its already installed. > > > > To top that off, I apparently lost the pw to the router I was using > > as an AP out there in the shop(its been 6 months since I used it), > > so I did the powerup, holding the reset button down for 30 seconds > > thing, and now its disappeared. Brand new router, 7 months ago, > > only been powered up 3 or 4 days in that time. I am beginning to > > develop an extreme distaste for netgear crap. Which means I am > > about to order another buffalo running dd- wrt. I can at least get > > good support from dd-wrt when it turned out that buffalo's branded > > version of dd-wrt was broken. > > I don't know about that buffalo thing you're talking about, but if it > isn't capable of 802.11n, I can recommend the TP-Link TL-WN1043ND. I'm > using it with openwrt, but maybe there is also a dd-wrt port for it, if > you prefer that software. > > > That may be fixable, but dammit, where can I buy a 802-11g/n dongle > > that linux supports right out of the GD box? > > I'm using the TP-Link TL-WN821N USB dongle here. It is supported out of > the box from Natty onwards. For 10.04 you need the > linux-backports-modules-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic package (or > *-generic-pae depending on your kernel version) or at least the 2.6.38 > kernel (there are backported kernels from Natty and Oneiric in the > repos). And you need a newer linux-firmware package, e.g. > are_1.60_all.deb>. > > BTW: Router and dongle are both using Atheros chips, so no Broadcom > involved. > > > Nils Hi Nils; It turns out the fix was available via synaptic. The 2.6.32-38 kernel it was running had no real contents in the /lib/modules/`uanem -r` tree, as in plumb empty except a ~build link. Muttering to myself, I fired up synaptic to see if there were any newer kernels available, and it turned out that synaptic didn't even know it had installed 2.6.32.38! But, there was a nice selection of newer kernels available, so I had it install 3.0.13-generic-pae. That box doesn't need the pae, only a gig of ram in it. So that will be about 2-3% slower. Installed, rebooted and everything Just Works(TM). In fact, wpa-psk was asking me for my pass phrase before kde was fully initialized! Not only that, but it then connected to this Buffalo router, 90 feet and a layer of alu siding separating them. But while it did work, the signal was only about a 1.2, so I pulled the cable, then plugged it back in and when it had found the SSID of the shops router setup as an AP, that connected with a 5 9's signal. So that particular problem seems to have been solved. Maybe tomorrow I'll get started on that taper lock hub. ;-) Right now its getting sleepy out. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: If time heals all wounds, how come the belly button stays the same? From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sat Mar 3 09:13:04 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:13:04 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <2169683.CKWTUkPVWH@lark-latitude-d630> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <2169683.CKWTUkPVWH@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <4F51E0A0.9030704@drofle.co.uk> On 03/03/12 00:16, Clay Weber wrote: > guvcview in Oneiric has some bugs, even crashes, in this unsupported Universe > package. > I used a more up-to-date package from this ppa: > https://launchpad.net/~pj-assis/+archive/ppa > and now get sound with my video recording on my Logitech. I don't think Cheese > does audio, nor does KDE's Kamoso. > Thanks for the info. Later today I will try this more up to date package. And thanks for the warning re Oneiric. I have been told that Cheese does do sound now. Again I must check the version I am using. Perhaps if I upgrade later this year I will check Oneiric and guvcview again. Thanks again Neil From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sat Mar 3 09:23:31 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:23:31 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> On 03/03/12 01:31, Basil Chupin wrote: > Pulse audio (pavucontrol) sits on top of alsa so what you need to do is > to use alsamixer first, select your audio card [use the F5 key to see > all channels and F6 key for the audio card] then make sure that you have > the appropriate channels selected (ie, unmuted and you mute/unmute them > by using the "m" key). > > While doing the playing around with the channels have what you want to > hear playing so that when you unmute a channel you will hear the audio > being played. > > Just a note here: there are situations where having a combination of 2 > channels unmuted can actually prevent the audio from being heard - I > don't remember what they may be but just be aware when you start > fiddling with the channels; you will soon enough hit on the right setup. > > Once you have sound thru alsamixer go back to pavucontrol and set that > up to get your sound using pavucontrol. > > BC > Yes. I have already looked at that. My default sound card works fine. However, when I plug in the webcam and then F6 for the list of sound cards I see one for the USB Device. When I choose that I get the message 'This sound device does not have any playback controls'. I try F4 and get a slider for Capture. However I can get only one green square in it when I try the up arrow. So I am puzzled by it all. As I said in another reply I will try it with Skype to see if it works. Neil From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat Mar 3 09:35:55 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:35:55 +1100 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> On 03/03/12 20:23, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 03/03/12 01:31, Basil Chupin wrote: >> Pulse audio (pavucontrol) sits on top of alsa so what you need to do is >> to use alsamixer first, select your audio card [use the F5 key to see >> all channels and F6 key for the audio card] then make sure that you have >> the appropriate channels selected (ie, unmuted and you mute/unmute them >> by using the "m" key). >> >> While doing the playing around with the channels have what you want to >> hear playing so that when you unmute a channel you will hear the audio >> being played. >> >> Just a note here: there are situations where having a combination of 2 >> channels unmuted can actually prevent the audio from being heard - I >> don't remember what they may be but just be aware when you start >> fiddling with the channels; you will soon enough hit on the right setup. >> >> Once you have sound thru alsamixer go back to pavucontrol and set that >> up to get your sound using pavucontrol. >> >> BC >> > Yes. I have already looked at that. My default sound card works fine. > However, when I plug in the webcam and then F6 for the list of sound > cards I see one for the USB Device. When I choose that I get the message > 'This sound device does not have any playback controls'. I try F4 and > get a slider for Capture. I didn't say F4 - I said F5. > However I can get only one green square in it > when I try the up arrow. So I am puzzled by it all. > > As I said in another reply I will try it with Skype to see if it works. > > Neil > BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Sat Mar 3 09:45:00 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:45:00 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> On 03/03/12 09:35, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> >> Yes. I have already looked at that. My default sound card works fine. >> However, when I plug in the webcam and then F6 for the list of sound >> cards I see one for the USB Device. When I choose that I get the message >> 'This sound device does not have any playback controls'. I try F4 and >> get a slider for Capture. > > I didn't say F4 - I said F5. > > OK. F5 for show all. All the sliders are activated. However at the right end of the screen there are two marked Mic and Front Mic. There are no sliders for these. Is that relevant? Thanks Neil From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sat Mar 3 10:22:29 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 21:22:29 +1100 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> On 03/03/12 20:45, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 03/03/12 09:35, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> Yes. I have already looked at that. My default sound card works fine. >>> However, when I plug in the webcam and then F6 for the list of sound >>> cards I see one for the USB Device. When I choose that I get the message >>> 'This sound device does not have any playback controls'. I try F4 and >>> get a slider for Capture. >> I didn't say F4 - I said F5. >> >> > OK. F5 for show all. All the sliders are activated. However at the right > end of the screen there are two marked Mic and Front Mic. There are no > sliders for these. Is that relevant? > > Thanks > > Neil There are MIC, MIC1 where you select MIC1 or MIC2 by using > the up/down key, and AMIC. > > As I have had the need for any of these I don't know what they do > except to conclude that they have something to do with activating a > microphone (?for Skype, ?for webcam). Oh, there is also the Mic Boost > setting in all that. > > BC @Neil. It would be nice to know that after asking a question here and getting responses whether the help you were given solved your problem. Getting a feedback as to success or otherwise makes it worthwhile providing help to others. BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Mon Mar 12 09:40:15 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:40:15 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> On 12/03/12 04:55, Basil Chupin wrote: > > It would be nice to know that after asking a question here and getting > responses whether the help you were given solved your problem. Getting a > feedback as to success or otherwise makes it worthwhile providing help > to others. > > BC > You are quite right and I apologise. Yes I did get it sorted. In the end I found a video on the internet which showed how to sort it with pulse audio. http://www.matthartley.com/audio-problems-with-skype-for-ubuntu/ I followed the suggestions on the video and it worked. I now have sound with my webcam. Please note that this refers to pulse audio only. By the way, I also have a laptop running Mint 9 Xfce. I tried the webcam on that and it just worked. Then I found that the laptop was using Alsa and not pulse audio!! So it seems that if you are using alsa for sound there should not be any problems. Thanks for the nudge about feedback. I will remember in future, Neil From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 14:12:57 2012 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:12:57 -0400 Subject: [11.10]-Permanently Disable Monitor Power Management? Message-ID: <4F5E0469.2000204@GMail.com> [11.10]-Permanently Disable Monitor Power Management? Hi, I backported kubuntu 11.10 64Bitto KDE 4.8. The only issue I have is that I can't seem to disable monitor power management? How would I permanently disable monitor power management? (trying to set it off in using system settings in menu has no effect) Thanks! Jesse From tddrazul at frontier.com Mon Mar 12 20:33:29 2012 From: tddrazul at frontier.com (tddrazul at frontier.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:33:29 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird 10 question Message-ID: <4F5E5D99.1070708@frontier.com> When trying to open a link from inside a e-mail in Thunderbird to a web site it fail to connect in either K-11.10 or K-12.04B. Everything works correctly in LM-12, U-11.10/U-12.04B and Fedora 16. All hardware is the same as I use a removable HD draw system. Have checked all systems configurations in Thunderbird in all systems and they're all the same. The one thing different is, a pop up opens in Thunderbird and asks which application it should use, click applications and all you get is your home folder which doesn't contain any access to any applications that would work. Any ideas would be appreciated Tom Drazul From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 20:39:38 2012 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isak_Enstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:39:38 +0100 Subject: Thunderbird 10 question In-Reply-To: <4F5E5D99.1070708@frontier.com> References: <4F5E5D99.1070708@frontier.com> Message-ID: Den 12 mars 2012 21:33 skrev tddrazul at frontier.com : > When trying to open a link from inside a e-mail in Thunderbird to a web > site it fail to connect in either K-11.10 or K-12.04B. Everything works > correctly in LM-12, U-11.10/U-12.04B and Fedora 16. > > All hardware is the same as I use a removable HD draw system. Have checked > all systems configurations in Thunderbird in all systems and they're all > the same. > > The one thing different is, a pop up opens in Thunderbird and asks which > application it should use, click applications and all you get is your home > folder which doesn't contain any access to any applications that would work. > > Any ideas would be appreciated > > Tom Drazul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > After clicking the link you can navigate to /usr/bin/firefox (if you use Firefox) and the next time it should work automagically. ~~ Isak __ Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Mar 12 21:57:30 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:57:30 +1100 Subject: [11.10]-Permanently Disable Monitor Power Management? In-Reply-To: <4F5E0469.2000204@GMail.com> References: <4F5E0469.2000204@GMail.com> Message-ID: <4F5E714A.1080606@iinet.net.au> On 13/03/12 01:12, Jesse Palser wrote: > [11.10]-Permanently Disable Monitor Power Management? > > Hi, > > I backported kubuntu 11.10 64Bitto KDE 4.8. > > The only issue I have is that I can't seem > to disable monitor power management? > > How would I permanently disable monitor power management? > (trying to set it off in using system settings in menu has no effect) > > Thanks! > > Jesse > Try setting the values to something like 480 minutes before they kick in :-) . (I had to set mine to 180 - and I don't even have a laptop!) BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Mar 12 22:02:57 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 09:02:57 +1100 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> On 12/03/12 20:40, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 12/03/12 04:55, Basil Chupin wrote: >> It would be nice to know that after asking a question here and getting >> responses whether the help you were given solved your problem. Getting a >> feedback as to success or otherwise makes it worthwhile providing help >> to others. >> >> BC >> > You are quite right and I apologise. Yes I did get it sorted. In the end > I found a video on the internet which showed how to sort it with pulse > audio. > > http://www.matthartley.com/audio-problems-with-skype-for-ubuntu/ > > I followed the suggestions on the video and it worked. I now have sound > with my webcam. Please note that this refers to pulse audio only. > > By the way, I also have a laptop running Mint 9 Xfce. I tried the webcam > on that and it just worked. Then I found that the laptop was using Alsa > and not pulse audio!! So it seems that if you are using alsa for sound > there should not be any problems. > > Thanks for the nudge about feedback. I will remember in future, > > Neil Thanks for this. But the only hassle with the last para re Mint n the laptop: as I already mentioned in my earlier suggestions to you re getting the mic working is that pulse sits *ON* *TOP* of alsa - without alsa there is no pulseaudio. Once you get alsa working then you can use pulseaudio and its pavucontrol to control the audio. BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From tddrazul at frontier.com Mon Mar 12 22:32:28 2012 From: tddrazul at frontier.com (tddrazul at frontier.com) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:32:28 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird 10 question In-Reply-To: References: <4F5E5D99.1070708@frontier.com> Message-ID: <4F5E797C.2040502@frontier.com> On 03/12/2012 03:39 PM, Isak Enström wrote: > Den 12 mars 2012 21:33 skrev tddrazul at frontier.com > >: > > When trying to open a link from inside a e-mail in Thunderbird to > a web site it fail to connect in either K-11.10 or K-12.04B. > Everything works correctly in LM-12, U-11.10/U-12.04B and Fedora 16. > > All hardware is the same as I use a removable HD draw system. Have > checked all systems configurations in Thunderbird in all systems > and they're all the same. > > The one thing different is, a pop up opens in Thunderbird and asks > which application it should use, click applications and all you > get is your home folder which doesn't contain any access to any > applications that would work. > > Any ideas would be appreciated > > Tom Drazul > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > After clicking the link you can navigate to /usr/bin/firefox (if you > use Firefox) and the next time it should work automagically. > > ~~ > Isak > __ > Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com > > Isak: K-12.04 uses F-11. Again trying to clicking on any type of link inside the e-mail (actual link or picture) produces nothing ....... you just click/click away without any response from Thunderbird. All other functions like "reply/forward, etc" all work perfectly. What makes this situation so frustrating to me is that the other OS I mentioned, everything worked correctly right out of the box as they say. I'll wait now till K-12 goes final in April, maybe by then it will have been corrected. K-12-B is doing just fine other than this hick-up. Thanks for you help. Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Tue Mar 13 08:32:29 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:32:29 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> On 12/03/12 22:02, Basil Chupin wrote: > > Thanks for this. > > But the only hassle with the last para re Mint n the laptop: as I > already mentioned in my earlier suggestions to you re getting the mic > working is that pulse sits *ON* *TOP* of alsa - without alsa there is no > pulseaudio. Once you get alsa working then you can use pulseaudio and > its pavucontrol to control the audio. > > BC > Well, I am not very knowledgeable about how sound works in Linux. My laptop made no mention of pulseaudio. When I was setting up the webcam for Skype I went to the audio section under options and found a list of possible inputs, stating that it was using Alsa. I chose the webcam from the list and it just worked. On my desktop, when trying to set up Skype sound, I found no such list so I had to use the methods shown in the video as mentioned earlier. So I found the sound set up for my laptop quickly and simply. For my desktop it took three days of research to get there. So, is it possible to use Alsa alone, without pulseaudio? Thanks for the info, Neil From fatgerman at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 12:18:36 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:18:36 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <0AD9A2A4-3C70-4CC6-8760-64AB80FA4B2F@gmail.com> On 13 Mar 2012, at 08:32, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 12/03/12 22:02, Basil Chupin wrote: >> >> Thanks for this. >> >> But the only hassle with the last para re Mint n the laptop: as I >> already mentioned in my earlier suggestions to you re getting the mic >> working is that pulse sits *ON* *TOP* of alsa - without alsa there is no >> pulseaudio. Once you get alsa working then you can use pulseaudio and >> its pavucontrol to control the audio. >> >> BC >> > > Well, I am not very knowledgeable about how sound works in Linux. My > laptop made no mention of pulseaudio. When I was setting up the webcam > for Skype I went to the audio section under options and found a list of > possible inputs, stating that it was using Alsa. I chose the webcam from > the list and it just worked. > > On my desktop, when trying to set up Skype sound, I found no such list > so I had to use the methods shown in the video as mentioned earlier. So > I found the sound set up for my laptop quickly and simply. For my > desktop it took three days of research to get there. > > So, is it possible to use Alsa alone, without pulse audio? If pulse audio is running, Skype will not permit you to use alsa directly (because to do so would break any application that tries to use pulse). You can't even kill pulse audio because it will restart itself. I don't think it's possible to remove pulse audio without removing a lot of other stuff either - however you might be able to find something on google that tells you how to disable pulse audio so it doesn't start. But pulse audio is generally a good thing so that would be a last resort. If you've got it working I'd just leave it. Mark > > Thanks for the info, > > Neil > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue Mar 13 13:14:12 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:14:12 +1100 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F5F4824.9050905@iinet.net.au> On 13/03/12 19:32, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 12/03/12 22:02, Basil Chupin wrote: >> Thanks for this. >> >> But the only hassle with the last para re Mint n the laptop: as I >> already mentioned in my earlier suggestions to you re getting the mic >> working is that pulse sits *ON* *TOP* of alsa - without alsa there is no >> pulseaudio. Once you get alsa working then you can use pulseaudio and >> its pavucontrol to control the audio. >> >> BC >> > Well, I am not very knowledgeable about how sound works in Linux. My > laptop made no mention of pulseaudio. When I was setting up the webcam > for Skype I went to the audio section under options and found a list of > possible inputs, stating that it was using Alsa. I chose the webcam from > the list and it just worked. > > On my desktop, when trying to set up Skype sound, I found no such list > so I had to use the methods shown in the video as mentioned earlier. So > I found the sound set up for my laptop quickly and simply. For my > desktop it took three days of research to get there. > > So, is it possible to use Alsa alone, without pulseaudio? One of the first things I try and do is get rid of pulseaudio and just use alsa. So, the answer is YES. However, for some reason only known to some, it suddenly became impossible to delete pulseaudio on some distros :-( . In this/these cases I simply ignore pulseaudio and just go with alsa. > Thanks for the info, You're welcome. BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Tue Mar 13 13:23:33 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:23:33 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5F4824.9050905@iinet.net.au> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5F4824.9050905@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F5F4A55.9000203@drofle.co.uk> On 13/03/12 13:14, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 13/03/12 19:32, Neil Winchurst wrote: >> On 12/03/12 22:02, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> Thanks for this. >>> >>> But the only hassle with the last para re Mint n the laptop: as I >>> already mentioned in my earlier suggestions to you re getting the mic >>> working is that pulse sits *ON* *TOP* of alsa - without alsa there is no >>> pulseaudio. Once you get alsa working then you can use pulseaudio and >>> its pavucontrol to control the audio. >>> >>> BC >>> >> Well, I am not very knowledgeable about how sound works in Linux. My >> laptop made no mention of pulseaudio. When I was setting up the webcam >> for Skype I went to the audio section under options and found a list of >> possible inputs, stating that it was using Alsa. I chose the webcam from >> the list and it just worked. >> >> On my desktop, when trying to set up Skype sound, I found no such list >> so I had to use the methods shown in the video as mentioned earlier. So >> I found the sound set up for my laptop quickly and simply. For my >> desktop it took three days of research to get there. >> >> So, is it possible to use Alsa alone, without pulseaudio? > > One of the first things I try and do is get rid of pulseaudio and just > use alsa. So, the answer is YES. > > However, for some reason only known to some, it suddenly became > impossible to delete pulseaudio on some distros :-( . In this/these > cases I simply ignore pulseaudio and just go with alsa. > > >> Thanks for the info, > > You're welcome. > > BC > I think I will go along with the 'if it ain't broken, don't fix it' system. It works so I will leave it alone. I will just repeat that on my desktop pulse appeared as the default sound system. On my laptop there was no sign of it (pulse that is) only Alsa was there. I have not messed around with anything re sound on either computer. Thanks for all the help. Neil From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue Mar 13 14:08:31 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 01:08:31 +1100 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5F4A55.9000203@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5F4824.9050905@iinet.net.au> <4F5F4A55.9000203@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: <4F5F54DF.2090900@iinet.net.au> On 14/03/12 00:23, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 13/03/12 13:14, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 13/03/12 19:32, Neil Winchurst wrote: >>> On 12/03/12 22:02, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>> Thanks for this. >>>> >>>> But the only hassle with the last para re Mint n the laptop: as I >>>> already mentioned in my earlier suggestions to you re getting the mic >>>> working is that pulse sits *ON* *TOP* of alsa - without alsa there is no >>>> pulseaudio. Once you get alsa working then you can use pulseaudio and >>>> its pavucontrol to control the audio. >>>> >>>> BC >>>> >>> Well, I am not very knowledgeable about how sound works in Linux. My >>> laptop made no mention of pulseaudio. When I was setting up the webcam >>> for Skype I went to the audio section under options and found a list of >>> possible inputs, stating that it was using Alsa. I chose the webcam from >>> the list and it just worked. >>> >>> On my desktop, when trying to set up Skype sound, I found no such list >>> so I had to use the methods shown in the video as mentioned earlier. So >>> I found the sound set up for my laptop quickly and simply. For my >>> desktop it took three days of research to get there. >>> >>> So, is it possible to use Alsa alone, without pulseaudio? >> One of the first things I try and do is get rid of pulseaudio and just >> use alsa. So, the answer is YES. >> >> However, for some reason only known to some, it suddenly became >> impossible to delete pulseaudio on some distros :-( . In this/these >> cases I simply ignore pulseaudio and just go with alsa. >> >> >>> Thanks for the info, >> You're welcome. >> >> BC >> > I think I will go along with the 'if it ain't broken, don't fix it' > system. It works so I will leave it alone. I will just repeat that on my > desktop pulse appeared as the default sound system. On my laptop there > was no sign of it (pulse that is) only Alsa was there. I have not messed > around with anything re sound on either computer. > Thanks for all the help. "If it isn't broke then don't fix" is a sound (excuse the pun) policy. But I have to comment about the difference between your laptop which is running Mint and your desktop which I presume is running Kubuntu (I presume because nowhere do you mention what you are using on the desktop). Anyway, Mint is based on Ubuntu which the Mint people make "adjustments" to and call it Mint. Which is most likely why you have this difference with alsa/pulseaudio between the desktop and the laptop. BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From barnaby at drofle.co.uk Tue Mar 13 16:02:59 2012 From: barnaby at drofle.co.uk (Neil Winchurst) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:02:59 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5F54DF.2090900@iinet.net.au> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5F4824.9050905@iinet.net.au> <4F5F4A55.9000203@drofle.co.uk> <4F5F54DF.2090900@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F5F6FB3.9040205@drofle.co.uk> On 13/03/12 14:08, Basil Chupin wrote: > "If it isn't broke then don't fix" is a sound (excuse the pun) policy. > > But I have to comment about the difference between your laptop which is > running Mint and your desktop which I presume is running Kubuntu (I > presume because nowhere do you mention what you are using on the > desktop). Anyway, Mint is based on Ubuntu which the Mint people make > "adjustments" to and call it Mint. Which is most likely why you have > this difference with alsa/pulseaudio between the desktop and the laptop. > > BC > Caught me out again. On my desktop I am running Mint 10 KDE, based on Ubuntu Maverick. And the laptop is running Mint 9 Xfce. Perhaps the difference is between KDE and Xfce. Yes, I know that Maverick is getting a bit old now. So I am testing some distros on VBox, including Kubuntu 11.10 and Mint 12 KDE. I must soon decide which one to choose as my next distro. Or I may stay where I am for the time being. One advantage with Linux is plenty of choice. Neil From fatgerman at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:08:08 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:08:08 +0000 Subject: Webcam - sound In-Reply-To: <4F5F6FB3.9040205@drofle.co.uk> References: <4F50ECBB.2010207@drofle.co.uk> <4F51745F.6030702@iinet.net.au> <4F51E313.3050204@drofle.co.uk> <4F51E5FB.3030505@iinet.net.au> <4F51E81C.6080001@drofle.co.uk> <4F51F0E5.5040600@iinet.net.au> <4F5D81AC.2090503@iinet.net.au> <4F5DC47F.5020603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5E7291.60100@iinet.net.au> <4F5F061D.6080603@drofle.co.uk> <4F5F4824.9050905@iinet.net.au> <4F5F4A55.9000203@drofle.co.uk> <4F5F54DF.2090900@iinet.net.au> <4F5F6FB3.9040205@drofle.co.uk> Message-ID: On 13 Mar 2012, at 16:02, Neil Winchurst wrote: > On 13/03/12 14:08, Basil Chupin wrote: >> "If it isn't broke then don't fix" is a sound (excuse the pun) policy. >> >> But I have to comment about the difference between your laptop which is >> running Mint and your desktop which I presume is running Kubuntu (I >> presume because nowhere do you mention what you are using on the >> desktop). Anyway, Mint is based on Ubuntu which the Mint people make >> "adjustments" to and call it Mint. Which is most likely why you have >> this difference with alsa/pulseaudio between the desktop and the laptop. >> >> BC >> > > Caught me out again. On my desktop I am running Mint 10 KDE, based on > Ubuntu Maverick. And the laptop is running Mint 9 Xfce. Perhaps the > difference is between KDE and Xfce. Not sure if Xfce requires pusleaudio (it's likely that it doesn't), but also Mint 9 is of an age where I don't even think pulseaudio would have been installed by default anyway. Mark > > Yes, I know that Maverick is getting a bit old now. So I am testing some > distros on VBox, including Kubuntu 11.10 and Mint 12 KDE. I must soon > decide which one to choose as my next distro. Or I may stay where I am > for the time being. One advantage with Linux is plenty of choice. > > Neil > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From d.kardarakos at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:31:22 2012 From: d.kardarakos at gmail.com (Dimitris Kardarakos) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:31:22 +0200 Subject: Thunderbird 10 question In-Reply-To: <4F5E797C.2040502@frontier.com> References: <4F5E5D99.1070708@frontier.com> <4F5E797C.2040502@frontier.com> Message-ID: <4F5FA08A.1080000@gmail.com> On 03/13/2012 12:32 AM, tddrazul at frontier.com wrote: > On 03/12/2012 03:39 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >> Den 12 mars 2012 21:33 skrev tddrazul at frontier.com >> > >: >> >> When trying to open a link from inside a e-mail in Thunderbird to >> a web site it fail to connect in either K-11.10 or K-12.04B. >> Everything works correctly in LM-12, U-11.10/U-12.04B and Fedora 16. >> >> All hardware is the same as I use a removable HD draw system. >> Have checked all systems configurations in Thunderbird in all >> systems and they're all the same. >> >> The one thing different is, a pop up opens in Thunderbird and >> asks which application it should use, click applications and all >> you get is your home folder which doesn't contain any access to >> any applications that would work. >> >> Any ideas would be appreciated >> >> Tom Drazul >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> After clicking the link you can navigate to /usr/bin/firefox (if you >> use Firefox) and the next time it should work automagically. >> >> ~~ >> Isak >> __ >> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >> >> > Isak: > > K-12.04 uses F-11. 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I then went back and returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? Nigel From fatgerman at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 10:58:52 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:58:52 +0000 Subject: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <6AC96B62-944E-4D47-A69C-952E4F8EE9C4@gmail.com> I quite often find that when you change those font settings you need to log out and log in again before they have the correct effect. It can be tedious. I also find that setting it to one thing and then changing it back doesn't always get it back to the initial state without a complete reboot, or maybe two complete reboots. Shouting at it helps too, I think. It's been that way since I can remember, even back into KDE3. Mark On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Nigel Ridley wrote: > > Running 11.10 > Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting > Application Appearance > Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. > Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. > > What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? > > Nigel > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed Mar 14 14:52:50 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:52:50 +0200 Subject: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <6AC96B62-944E-4D47-A69C-952E4F8EE9C4@gmail.com> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <6AC96B62-944E-4D47-A69C-952E4F8EE9C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F60B0C2.9070700@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/14/2012 12:58 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > I quite often find that when you change those font settings you need to log out and log in again before they have the correct effect. It can be tedious. I also find that setting it to one thing and then changing it back doesn't always get it back to the initial state without a complete reboot, or maybe two complete reboots. Shouting at it helps too, I think. It's been that way since I can remember, even back into KDE3. > > Mark > > > On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> >> Running 11.10 >> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >> >> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Tried the 2 reboots after putting back the settings as they were originally but the fonts are not crisp as they used to be. Since this was a per-user setting (I didn't have to enter my password so it can't have had a system wide effect), there must be a config file somewhere in .kde that I can change or overwrite. Any ideas what it might be called? I might just rename .kde and let KDE create a new one (then arrange my user space how I like it.........). Nigel From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 14:57:27 2012 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isak_Enstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:57:27 +0100 Subject: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley : > > Running 11.10 > Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting > > Application Appearance > Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' > from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' > button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting > style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. > Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and > returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use > anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( > No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. > > What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? > > Nigel > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf ~~ Isak __ Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed Mar 14 15:31:25 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:31:25 +0200 Subject: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4F60B9CD.4080103@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: > Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley: > >> >> Running 11.10 >> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> >> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' >> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' >> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting >> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and >> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use >> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( >> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >> >> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >> >> Nigel >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> > > Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf > > ~~ > Isak > __ > Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com > > > > That did the trick - Thank you :-) I was actually .fontconfig Nigel From fatgerman at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:33:36 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:33:36 +0000 Subject: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F60B0C2.9070700@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <6AC96B62-944E-4D47-A69C-952E4F8EE9C4@gmail.com> <4F60B0C2.9070700@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <15FFF57E-DED4-4A55-BCE2-5A768B7C8A0E@gmail.com> On 14 Mar 2012, at 14:52, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 03/14/2012 12:58 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> I quite often find that when you change those font settings you need to log out and log in again before they have the correct effect. It can be tedious. I also find that setting it to one thing and then changing it back doesn't always get it back to the initial state without a complete reboot, or maybe two complete reboots. Shouting at it helps too, I think. It's been that way since I can remember, even back into KDE3. >> >> Mark >> >> >> On 14 Mar 2012, at 10:53, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> >>> >>> Running 11.10 >>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >>> >>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> > > Tried the 2 reboots after putting back the settings as they were originally but the fonts are not crisp as they used to be. > Since this was a per-user setting (I didn't have to enter my password so it can't have had a system wide effect), there must be a config file somewhere in .kde that I can change or overwrite. Any ideas what it might be called? > > I might just rename .kde and let KDE create a new one (then arrange my user space how I like it......…). Generally for things like this I go and look in ~/.kde/share/config and find a file that looks as though it has the right sort of filename. They're all plain text as well so you can read them. Find the right one, or guess at one, move it somewhere else, and log out. Mark > > Nigel > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From it at sca-uk.com Wed Mar 14 15:57:20 2012 From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:57:20 -0300 Subject: Demise of the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) In-Reply-To: <387FD289-434B-4A4F-9CB9-3860E7693E8A@gmail.com> References: <387FD289-434B-4A4F-9CB9-3860E7693E8A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17EF8CD6AC204FA7AD75C208CC3FE6A9@SACWS001> As I understand it, HAL is officially deprecated. It's only included in distros now to support old code which hasn't yet been made udev aware. It depends on what you mean by 'be able to use HAL', but I would suggest you start removing any dependence you have on it ASAP. Hi Mark, Thanks for this. I have a piece of HAL code which give me some details about USBs which I parse to get mounting info. I tried other source, but it didn't all appear to be there. This what I have now: #!/bin/ksh93 # # list attached USB storage devices # for udi in $(/usr/bin/hal-find-by-capability --capability storage) do device=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key block.device) #device2=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key block.storage_device) vendor=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.vendor) model=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.model) product=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key info.product) #dev=$(hal-get-property --udi $device2 --key linux.sysfs_path) if [[ $(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.bus) = "usb" ]] then parent_udi=$(hal-find-by-property --key block.storage_device --string $udi) mount=$(hal-get-property --udi $parent_udi --key volume.mount_point) label=$(hal-get-property --udi $parent_udi --key volume.label) media_removable=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.removable) media_size=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.removable.media_size) size=$(( ceil(media_size/(1000*1000*1000)) )) printf "-------------------------------------------------\n" printf "Vendor: $vendor\n" printf "Model: $model\n" printf "Device: $device\n" printf "Product: $product\n" printf "Mount: $mount\n" printf "Size "${size}" GB \n" printf "Removable: $media_removable\n" #printf "Dev: $dev\n" fi done But it is not clear to me how I might get the same attributes from udev. Regards Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fatgerman at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 16:25:45 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:25:45 +0000 Subject: Demise of the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL) In-Reply-To: <17EF8CD6AC204FA7AD75C208CC3FE6A9@SACWS001> References: <387FD289-434B-4A4F-9CB9-3860E7693E8A@gmail.com> <17EF8CD6AC204FA7AD75C208CC3FE6A9@SACWS001> Message-ID: <84ACDD91-9944-48B1-8A9A-7BED1273706A@gmail.com> On 14 Mar 2012, at 15:57, Steve Cookson wrote: > As I understand it, HAL is officially deprecated. It's only included in distros now to support old code which hasn't yet been made udev aware. It depends on what you mean by 'be able to use HAL', but I would suggest you start removing any dependence you have on it ASAP. > > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for this. I have a piece of HAL code which give me some details about USBs which I parse to get mounting info. I tried other source, but it didn't all appear to be there. > > This what I have now: > > #!/bin/ksh93 > # > # list attached USB storage devices > # > > for udi in $(/usr/bin/hal-find-by-capability --capability storage) > do > device=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key block.device) > #device2=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key block.storage_device) > vendor=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.vendor) > model=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.model) > product=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key info.product) > #dev=$(hal-get-property --udi $device2 --key linux.sysfs_path) > if [[ $(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.bus) = "usb" ]] > then > parent_udi=$(hal-find-by-property --key block.storage_device --string $udi) > mount=$(hal-get-property --udi $parent_udi --key volume.mount_point) > label=$(hal-get-property --udi $parent_udi --key volume.label) > media_removable=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.removable) > media_size=$(hal-get-property --udi $udi --key storage.removable.media_size) > size=$(( ceil(media_size/(1000*1000*1000)) )) > printf "-------------------------------------------------\n" > printf "Vendor: $vendor\n" > printf "Model: $model\n" > printf "Device: $device\n" > printf "Product: $product\n" > printf "Mount: $mount\n" > printf "Size "${size}" GB \n" > printf "Removable: $media_removable\n" > #printf "Dev: $dev\n" > fi > done > But it is not clear to me how I might get the same attributes from udev. I'm no expert but I know KDE uses disks now so it must be possible. There must be a udev mailing list you could try. Mark > > Regards > > Steve > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkourtev at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 16:25:05 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:25:05 +0200 Subject: System sounds Message-ID: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> Good evening, >From some time ago -- may be after the 4.8.1 upgrade, my system sounds disappeared (i.e. these during login, new mail, dialogues, etc). All other sound are fine -- I can use Amarok, video, skype, embed video in Firefox alike. In System setting all seems to be right. What am I missing here? Thanks. gk From thomas at tanghus.net Wed Mar 14 16:49:36 2012 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:49:36 +0100 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <31718791.peWDCDMz4E@tanghus> On Wednesday 14 March 2012 18:25 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > Good evening, > > From some time ago -- may be after the 4.8.1 upgrade, my system sounds > disappeared (i.e. these during login, new mail, dialogues, etc). All other > sound are fine -- I can use Amarok, video, skype, embed video in Firefox > alike. > > In System setting all seems to be right. What am I missing here? Thanks. > gk Same happened here after 4.8.1 upgrade. Had to go to System Settings and set the full path to each sound file for it to work. My guess is that it is a packaging error. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From gkourtev at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 17:02:53 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:02:53 +0200 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: <31718791.peWDCDMz4E@tanghus> References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> <31718791.peWDCDMz4E@tanghus> Message-ID: <1778063.LVyA93XLZD@gkourtev-laptop> On Wednesday 14 March 2012 17:49:36 Thomas Tanghus wrote: > On Wednesday 14 March 2012 18:25 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Good evening, > > > > From some time ago -- may be after the 4.8.1 upgrade, my system sounds > > disappeared (i.e. these during login, new mail, dialogues, etc). All > > other > > sound are fine -- I can use Amarok, video, skype, embed video in Firefox > > alike. > > > > In System setting all seems to be right. What am I missing here? Thanks. > > gk > > Same happened here after 4.8.1 upgrade. Had to go to System Settings and set > the full path to each sound file for it to work. > My guess is that it is a packaging error. Uhh. Not very convenient... gk From stvrly at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 18:18:17 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:18:17 -0700 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: <1778063.LVyA93XLZD@gkourtev-laptop> References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> <31718791.peWDCDMz4E@tanghus> <1778063.LVyA93XLZD@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <28953610.uCeJjmGAvG@sriley-t410> On 2012-03-14 19:02:53 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > On Wednesday 14 March 2012 17:49:36 Thomas Tanghus wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 March 2012 18:25 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > Good evening, > > > > > > From some time ago -- may be after the 4.8.1 upgrade, my system sounds > > > disappeared (i.e. these during login, new mail, dialogues, etc). All > > > other > > > sound are fine -- I can use Amarok, video, skype, embed video in Firefox > > > alike. > > > > > > In System setting all seems to be right. What am I missing here? > > > Thanks. > > > gk > > > > Same happened here after 4.8.1 upgrade. Had to go to System Settings and > > set the full path to each sound file for it to work. > > My guess is that it is a packaging error. > > Uhh. Not very convenient... I put a quick shell script up on Kubuntu Forums that quickly fixes this. I suspect it will keep breaking as more updates come out until the underlying bug gets fixed. http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57819-Notification-Sounds- Disappeared-after-updates-to-KDE-4-8-1 ...Steve From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Wed Mar 14 19:02:31 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:02:31 +0200 Subject: Not Solved e: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F60B9CD.4080103@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60B9CD.4080103@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4F60EB47.2020209@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley: >> >>> >>> Running 11.10 >>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> >>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' >>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' >>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting >>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and >>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use >>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( >>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >>> >>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >> >> Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf >> >> ~~ >> Isak >> __ >> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >> >> >> >> > > That did the trick - Thank you :-) > I was actually .fontconfig > > Nigel > > I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but they are still not crisp. The only thing I could find in .kde was .kde/share/config/kcmfonts: [General] dontChangeAASettings=true forceFontDPI=0 So where else might the settings be? I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of 12.04 Nigel From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 08:10:28 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:10:28 +0200 Subject: System sounds Message-ID: <44395662.0cFRsqKBhd@gkourtev-laptop> > I put a quick shell script up on Kubuntu Forums that quickly fixes this. I > suspect it will keep breaking as more updates come out until the underlying > bug gets fixed. > > http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57819-Notification-Sounds- > Disappeared-after-updates-to-KDE-4-8-1 > > ...Steve I tried to do the script -- no sounds however... gk From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 08:33:49 2012 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:33:49 -0400 Subject: [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? Message-ID: <4F61A96D.8050004@GMail.com> [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? Hi, Running kubuntu 11.10 and installed WINE PPA. WINE 1.4 Stable was released over 1 week ago, but the WINE PPA still has 1.4rc6 ? When will WINE PPA update to WINE 1.4 Stable? Thanks! Jesse From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 08:45:17 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:45:17 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least Message-ID: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the "select" button next the address field. I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... Best, Sinclair From fatgerman at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 08:49:17 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:49:17 +0000 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4137FA85-8A00-4455-B9D7-7D8E006E144F@gmail.com> On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:45, O. Sinclair wrote: > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. > > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. > > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the "select" button next the address field. > > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... > > Best, > Sinclair I can only confirm that I have similar behaviour, although I did a great deal of messing around with creating new address books in various ways and now when I type into the 'To' field, everything crashes. :( Not good. Mark > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From ensane94 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:10:45 2012 From: ensane94 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZW5zYW5lOTRAZ21haWwuY29t?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:10:45 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IEtERSA0LjguMSBzaG93c3RvcHBlciAtIGZvciBtZSBhdCBsZWFzdA==?= Message-ID: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> Dear Mr. Sinclair, The bug that you have explain is not a kmail bug but unfortunally is an OS bug. We will try to resolve this problem...but you can try to use a stable mod of kubuntu ( 11.10 ). Personally kmail never crash in my kubuntu 11.10. So, we will work about this bug. Thanks for contuct us. Bye, Mirko. Inviato da HTC ----- Reply message ----- Da: "Mark Greenwood" A: "Kubuntu user technical support" Oggetto: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 09:49 On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:45, O. Sinclair wrote: > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. > > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. > > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the "select" button next the address field. > > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... > > Best, > Sinclair I can only confirm that I have similar behaviour, although I did a great deal of messing around with creating new address books in various ways and now when I type into the 'To' field, everything crashes. :( Not good. Mark > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ensane94 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:13:14 2012 From: ensane94 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZW5zYW5lOTRAZ21haWwuY29t?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:13:14 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IEtERSA0LjguMSBzaG93c3RvcHBlciAtIGZvciBtZSBhdCBsZWFzdA==?= Message-ID: <4f61b2ad.c8b80e0a.61bd.225c@mx.google.com> Sorry Mr Mark, This is an OS bug...WE will work about this. Thanks for contact us. Please contuct us for another bug. Bhe Inviato da HTC ----- Reply message ----- Da: "Mark Greenwood" A: "Kubuntu user technical support" Oggetto: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 09:49 On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:45, O. Sinclair wrote: > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. > > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. > > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the "select" button next the address field. > > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... > > Best, > Sinclair I can only confirm that I have similar behaviour, although I did a great deal of messing around with creating new address books in various ways and now when I type into the 'To' field, everything crashes. :( Not good. Mark > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ensane94 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:18:16 2012 From: ensane94 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZW5zYW5lOTRAZ21haWwuY29t?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:18:16 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFsxMS4xMF0tV2hlbiBXaWxsIFdJTkUgUFBBIFVwZGF0ZSBUbyAxLjQgU3Rh?= =?utf-8?B?YmxlPw==?= Message-ID: <4f61b3d9.89b90e0a.7ed6.2497@mx.google.com> Hi Jesse, WINE ppa will updated to the ultimate version not over two weeks, i think. I contact you when the ppa is updated. Bhe, Mirko ----- Reply message ----- Da: "Jesse Palser" A: Oggetto: [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 09:33 [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? Hi, Running kubuntu 11.10 and installed WINE PPA. WINE 1.4 Stable was released over 1 week ago, but the WINE PPA still has 1.4rc6 ? When will WINE PPA update to WINE 1.4 Stable? Thanks! Jesse -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From isak.enstrom at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:19:21 2012 From: isak.enstrom at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Isak_Enstr=C3=B6m?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:19:21 +0100 Subject: [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? In-Reply-To: <4F61A96D.8050004@GMail.com> References: <4F61A96D.8050004@GMail.com> Message-ID: Den 15 mars 2012 09:33 skrev Jesse Palser : > [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? > > Hi, > > Running kubuntu 11.10 and installed WINE PPA. > > WINE 1.4 Stable was released over 1 week ago, > but the WINE PPA still has 1.4rc6 ? > > When will WINE PPA update to WINE 1.4 Stable? > Thanks! > > Jesse > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > Hi, I think you need to ask the question at the Wine forums or mailing list. They are the ones deciding when to build the packages. ~~ Isak __ Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:23:47 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:23:47 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4F61B523.8070205@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 11:10, ensane94 at gmail.com wrote: > Dear Mr. Sinclair, > > The bug that you have explain is not a kmail bug but unfortunally is an > OS bug. We will try to resolve this problem...but you can try to use a > stable mod of kubuntu ( 11.10 ). > Personally kmail never crash in my kubuntu 11.10. > > So, we will work about this bug. Thanks for contuct us. > > Bye, Mirko. > > Inviato da HTC > > ----- Reply message ----- > Da: "Mark Greenwood" > A: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Oggetto: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least > Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 09:49 > > > > On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:45, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related > to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. > > > > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. > In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. > > > > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address > in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up > with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard > etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen > via the "select" button next the address field. > > > > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone > else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am > on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... > > > > Best, > > Sinclair > > I can only confirm that I have similar behaviour, although I did a great > deal of messing around with creating new address books in various ways > and now when I type into the 'To' field, everything crashes. > > :( Not good. > > Mark > I AM using 11.10 w 4.7.4 and will do so until I hear this is solved - or if I hear it works on other distros I might actually swap distro as this is very important function to me. IF it is Kubuntu-related I sure hope it is fixed before LTS 12.04 release Best Sinclair From ensane94 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:27:21 2012 From: ensane94 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZW5zYW5lOTRAZ21haWwuY29t?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:27:21 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFsxMS4xMF0tV2hlbiBXaWxsIFdJTkUgUFBBIFVwZGF0ZSBUbyAxLjQgU3Rh?= =?utf-8?B?YmxlPw==?= Message-ID: <4f61b5fb.08250e0a.763c.2825@mx.google.com> Ok sorry Inviato da HTC ----- Reply message ----- Da: "Isak Enström" A: "Kubuntu user technical support" Oggetto: [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 10:19 Den 15 mars 2012 09:33 skrev Jesse Palser : [11.10]-When Will WINE PPA Update To 1.4 Stable? Hi, Running kubuntu 11.10 and installed WINE PPA. WINE 1.4 Stable was released over 1 week ago, but the WINE PPA still has 1.4rc6 ? When will WINE PPA update to WINE 1.4 Stable? Thanks! Jesse -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Hi, I think you need to ask the question at the Wine forums or mailing list. They are the ones deciding when to build the packages. ~~ Isak __ Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:34:26 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:34:26 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 11:10, ensane94 at gmail.com wrote: > Dear Mr. Sinclair, > > The bug that you have explain is not a kmail bug but unfortunally is an > OS bug. We will try to resolve this problem...but you can try to use a > stable mod of kubuntu ( 11.10 ). > Personally kmail never crash in my kubuntu 11.10. > > So, we will work about this bug. Thanks for contuct us. > > Bye, Mirko. > > Inviato da HTC > > ----- Reply message ----- > Da: "Mark Greenwood" > A: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Oggetto: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least > Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 09:49 > > > > On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:45, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related > to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. > > > > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. > In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. > > > > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address > in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up > with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard > etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen > via the "select" button next the address field. > > > > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone > else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am > on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... > > > > Best, > > Sinclair > > I can only confirm that I have similar behaviour, although I did a great > deal of messing around with creating new address books in various ways > and now when I type into the 'To' field, everything crashes. > > :( Not good. > > Mark > I AM using 11.10 w KDE 4.7.4 and will do so until I hear this is solved - or if I hear it works on other distros I might actually swap distro as this is very important function to me. IF it is Kubuntu-related I sure hope it is fixed before LTS 12.04 release Best Sinclair From ensane94 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 09:37:16 2012 From: ensane94 at gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?ZW5zYW5lOTRAZ21haWwuY29t?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:37:16 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IEtERSA0LjguMSBzaG93c3RvcHBlciAtIGZvciBtZSBhdCBsZWFzdA==?= Message-ID: <4f61b84d.0fba0e0a.16e7.2a4a@mx.google.com> Sorry i don't know this..please contact another person for this problem. You can try another distro to find which one is the best for you. Sorry Bye ----- Reply message ----- Da: "O. Sinclair" A: Oggetto: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 10:23 On 15/03/12 11:10, ensane94 at gmail.com wrote: > Dear Mr. Sinclair, > > The bug that you have explain is not a kmail bug but unfortunally is an > OS bug. We will try to resolve this problem...but you can try to use a > stable mod of kubuntu ( 11.10 ). > Personally kmail never crash in my kubuntu 11.10. > > So, we will work about this bug. Thanks for contuct us. > > Bye, Mirko. > > Inviato da HTC > > ----- Reply message ----- > Da: "Mark Greenwood" > A: "Kubuntu user technical support" > Oggetto: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least > Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 09:49 > > > > On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:45, O. Sinclair wrote: > > > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related > to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. > > > > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. > In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. > > > > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address > in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up > with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard > etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen > via the "select" button next the address field. > > > > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone > else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am > on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... > > > > Best, > > Sinclair > > I can only confirm that I have similar behaviour, although I did a great > deal of messing around with creating new address books in various ways > and now when I type into the 'To' field, everything crashes. > > :( Not good. > > Mark > I AM using 11.10 w 4.7.4 and will do so until I hear this is solved - or if I hear it works on other distros I might actually swap distro as this is very important function to me. IF it is Kubuntu-related I sure hope it is fixed before LTS 12.04 release Best Sinclair -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blchupin at iinet.net.au Thu Mar 15 11:47:37 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:47:37 +1100 Subject: Not Solved e: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F60EB47.2020209@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60B9CD.4080103@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60EB47.2020209@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <4F61D6D9.1060403@iinet.net.au> On 15/03/12 06:02, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >>> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley: >>> >>>> >>>> Running 11.10 >>>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> >>>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use >>>> anti_aliasing:' >>>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the >>>> 'Configure' >>>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose >>>> 'Hinting >>>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >>>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and >>>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use >>>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the >>>> same :-( >>>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >>>> >>>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>>> -- >>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf >>> >>> ~~ >>> Isak >>> __ >>> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> That did the trick - Thank you :-) >> I was actually .fontconfig >> >> Nigel >> >> > > I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but > they are still not crisp. > The only thing I could find in .kde was .kde/share/config/kcmfonts: > [General] > dontChangeAASettings=true > forceFontDPI=0 > > So where else might the settings be? > I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of > 12.04 > > Nigel You don't mention on what hardware you are having this problem - a desktop with XXXXX monitor (where XXXX is a CRT or an LCD, which make and at what resolution) or is on a laptop. You also don't mention what video you are using - nVidia or Radeon, on board the mobo or as a separate video card - and whether you have the *proper* driver installed or still using the default driver. Nor do you mention which fonts you are using. I mention this because there are fonts specially designed for printers and those designed for use for displaying text on monitors. The other thing, if you want to see decent fonts you do need to enable anti-aliasing with sub-pixel rendering -provided that you have the proper video driver installed and you monitor is capable of doing this. BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Mar 15 11:54:09 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:54:09 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1807584.rzRtFlZVmV@linux1> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:45:17 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone > else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am > on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... kmail has been a real pain as far as addresses go. There are many incantations you can try to get things to work. I finally have it all working here (first character starts a list from both recent addresses and 'personal contacts') but I couldn't for the world tell you how I got there. It mostly has to do with akonadi and resources. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 12:10:28 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:10:28 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <1807584.rzRtFlZVmV@linux1> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> <1807584.rzRtFlZVmV@linux1> Message-ID: <4F61DC34.6070002@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 13:54, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:45:17 AM O. Sinclair wrote: >> I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone >> else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am >> on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... > > kmail has been a real pain as far as addresses go. There are many > incantations you can try to get things to work. > > I finally have it all working here (first character starts a list from both > recent addresses and 'personal contacts') but I couldn't for the world tell > you how I got there. > > It mostly has to do with akonadi and resources. > > > Bruce - is that on KDE 4.8.x or 4.7.4 or what? Asking cause in 4.7.4 it works and when it botches out I know how to fix it. Sinclair From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Mar 15 12:20:10 2012 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:20:10 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F61DC34.6070002@gmail.com> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> <1807584.rzRtFlZVmV@linux1> <4F61DC34.6070002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5743538.y56WcCVrzD@linux1> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 02:10:28 PM O. Sinclair wrote: > Bruce - is that on KDE 4.8.x or 4.7.4 or what? Asking cause in 4.7.4 it > works and when it botches out I know how to fix it. 11.10 and 4.7.4 From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 13:06:04 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:06:04 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <5743538.y56WcCVrzD@linux1> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> <1807584.rzRtFlZVmV@linux1> <4F61DC34.6070002@gmail.com> <5743538.y56WcCVrzD@linux1> Message-ID: <4F61E93C.8070405@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 14:20, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday, March 15, 2012 02:10:28 PM O. Sinclair wrote: >> Bruce - is that on KDE 4.8.x or 4.7.4 or what? Asking cause in 4.7.4 it >> works and when it botches out I know how to fix it. > > 11.10 and 4.7.4 > > > > well on that platform I have no problems (well...) but when I try out 4.8.x is when completion disappears totally and I find no way to sort it out. As I am kind of looking forward to 12.04 this is really irritating me (obviously also that I can not go up in KDE version). From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 13:12:40 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:12:40 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <5743538.y56WcCVrzD@linux1> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> <1807584.rzRtFlZVmV@linux1> <4F61DC34.6070002@gmail.com> <5743538.y56WcCVrzD@linux1> Message-ID: <4F61EAC8.5060501@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 14:20, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Thursday, March 15, 2012 02:10:28 PM O. Sinclair wrote: >> Bruce - is that on KDE 4.8.x or 4.7.4 or what? Asking cause in 4.7.4 it >> works and when it botches out I know how to fix it. > > 11.10 and 4.7.4 > > > > well on that platform I have no problems (well...) but when I try out 4.8.x is when completion disappears totally and I find no way to sort it out. As I am kind of looking forward to 12.04 this is really irritating me (obviously also that I can not go up in KDE version). From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 13:19:59 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:49:59 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all! On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:15 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to that > - so if you are not you may not be interested. > > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In > both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. > > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in the > "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with > suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that I > have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the "select" > button next the address field. > > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone else > has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on 4.7.4 > until I hear that this works... Yes, it is a general bug, at last, solved: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295474 I patched my kdelibs with that patch: and the problem went away. People at kubuntu: can you produce an updated kdelibs package with the patch included? or should we wait for 4.8.1. Applying the patch is simple for anyone with experience building debian/ubuntu packages. Ildefonso. From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 13:20:36 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:50:36 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > Hi all! > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:15 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to that >> - so if you are not you may not be interested. >> >> In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In >> both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. >> >> On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in the >> "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with >> suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that I >> have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the "select" >> button next the address field. >> >> I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone else >> has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on 4.7.4 >> until I hear that this works... > > Yes, it is a general bug, at last, solved: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295474 > > I patched my kdelibs with that patch: and the problem went away. > > People at kubuntu: can you produce an updated kdelibs package with the > patch included? or should we wait for 4.8.1. err... 4.8.2, typo! > > Applying the patch is simple for anyone with experience building > debian/ubuntu packages. > > Ildefonso. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 13:50:53 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:50:53 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F61F3BD.3000108@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 15:19, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > Hi all! > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:15 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to that >> - so if you are not you may not be interested. >> >> In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In >> both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. >> >> On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in the >> "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with >> suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that I >> have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the "select" >> button next the address field. >> >> I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone else >> has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on 4.7.4 >> until I hear that this works... > > Yes, it is a general bug, at last, solved: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295474 > > I patched my kdelibs with that patch: and the problem went away. > > People at kubuntu: can you produce an updated kdelibs package with the > patch included? or should we wait for 4.8.1. > > Applying the patch is simple for anyone with experience building > debian/ubuntu packages. > > Ildefonso. > On reading that bug I find a lot about crashes but nothing about non-functioning address completion. Are you sure the bugs are related? Sinclair From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Thu Mar 15 14:20:25 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:20:25 +0200 Subject: Not Solved e: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F61D6D9.1060403@iinet.net.au> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60B9CD.4080103@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60EB47.2020209@prayingforisrael.net> <4F61D6D9.1060403@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F61FAA9.8050605@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/15/2012 01:47 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 15/03/12 06:02, Nigel Ridley wrote: >> On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >>>> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Running 11.10 >>>>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> >>>>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' >>>>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' >>>>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting >>>>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >>>>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and >>>>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use >>>>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( >>>>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >>>>> >>>>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >>>>> >>>>> Nigel >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>>>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>>> >>>> >>>> Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf >>>> >>>> ~~ >>>> Isak >>>> __ >>>> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> That did the trick - Thank you :-) >>> I was actually .fontconfig >>> >>> Nigel >>> >>> >> >> I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but they are still not crisp. >> The only thing I could find in .kde was .kde/share/config/kcmfonts: >> [General] >> dontChangeAASettings=true >> forceFontDPI=0 >> >> So where else might the settings be? >> I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of 12.04 >> >> Nigel > > You don't mention on what hardware you are having this problem - a desktop with XXXXX monitor > (where XXXX is a CRT or an LCD, which make and at what resolution) or is on a laptop. > > You also don't mention what video you are using - nVidia or Radeon, on board the mobo or as a > separate video card - and whether you have the *proper* driver installed or still using the > default driver. > > Nor do you mention which fonts you are using. I mention this because there are fonts specially > designed for printers and those designed for use for displaying text on monitors. > > The other thing, if you want to see decent fonts you do need to enable anti-aliasing with > sub-pixel rendering -provided that you have the proper video driver installed and you monitor is > capable of doing this. > > BC > > It is on a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop with Intel onboard graphics. But non of that is really important as the fonts were wonderful before I changed the settings and now changing the settings back to the way they were still leaves the fonts not as they were. The point of all this is: How does one get back the original settings that come with a default install after having played with the settings and messed them up? I shall create another user account and see if the fonts are clean - if they are then I shall try and find the config file and copy it over to my account. Nigel From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 14:22:58 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:52:58 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F61F3BD.3000108@gmail.com> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> <4F61F3BD.3000108@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 15/03/12 15:19, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:15 AM, O. Sinclair  wrote: >>> >>> For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related to >>> that >>> - so if you are not you may not be interested. >>> >>> In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. In >>> both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. >>> >>> On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in >>> the >>> "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with >>> suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) that >>> I >>> have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via the >>> "select" >>> button next the address field. >>> >>> I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone >>> else >>> has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am on >>> 4.7.4 >>> until I hear that this works... >> >> >> Yes, it is a general bug, at last, solved: >> >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295474 >> >> I patched my kdelibs with that patch: and the problem went away. >> >> People at kubuntu: can you produce an updated kdelibs package with the >> patch included? or should we wait for 4.8.1. >> >> Applying the patch is simple for anyone with experience building >> debian/ubuntu packages. >> >> Ildefonso. >> > On reading that bug I find a lot about crashes but nothing about > non-functioning address completion. Are you sure the bugs are related? Sorry, answered to wrong message.. I should have answered to ensane94 at gmail.com, about the crash and all. I'm using 4.8.1. And yes: address book seems to be broken for now (It won't automatically complete addresses from address books). Ildefonso. From fatgerman at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 14:25:40 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:25:40 +0000 Subject: Not Solved e: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F61FAA9.8050605@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60B9CD.4080103@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60EB47.2020209@prayingforisrael.net> <4F61D6D9.1060403@iinet.net.au> <4F61FAA9.8050605@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <81CE2F98-3892-4805-B501-0926DE2C8CBB@gmail.com> On 15 Mar 2012, at 14:20, Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 03/15/2012 01:47 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 15/03/12 06:02, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>> On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >>>>> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Running 11.10 >>>>>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> >>>>>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' >>>>>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' >>>>>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting >>>>>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >>>>>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and >>>>>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use >>>>>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( >>>>>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >>>>>> >>>>>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nigel >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>>>>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf >>>>> >>>>> ~~ >>>>> Isak >>>>> __ >>>>> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> That did the trick - Thank you :-) >>>> I was actually .fontconfig >>>> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but they are still not crisp. >>> The only thing I could find in .kde was .kde/share/config/kcmfonts: >>> [General] >>> dontChangeAASettings=true >>> forceFontDPI=0 >>> >>> So where else might the settings be? >>> I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of 12.04 >>> >>> Nigel >> >> You don't mention on what hardware you are having this problem - a desktop with XXXXX monitor >> (where XXXX is a CRT or an LCD, which make and at what resolution) or is on a laptop. >> >> You also don't mention what video you are using - nVidia or Radeon, on board the mobo or as a >> separate video card - and whether you have the *proper* driver installed or still using the >> default driver. >> >> Nor do you mention which fonts you are using. I mention this because there are fonts specially >> designed for printers and those designed for use for displaying text on monitors. >> >> The other thing, if you want to see decent fonts you do need to enable anti-aliasing with >> sub-pixel rendering -provided that you have the proper video driver installed and you monitor is >> capable of doing this. >> >> BC >> >> > > It is on a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop with Intel onboard graphics. But non of that is really important as the fonts were wonderful before I changed the settings and now changing the settings back to the way they were still leaves the fonts not as they were. > The point of all this is: How does one get back the original settings that come with a default install after having played with the settings and messed them up? > > I shall create another user account and see if the fonts are clean - if they are then I shall try and find the config file and copy it over to my account. Nigel, It has occurred to me that I vaguely recall there is some kind of cacheing going on which complicates matters. I think what might help is to set your settings back as they were and change the font. Then log out, log back in, and change the font back to the original font without altering the other settings. I think that usually works for me. Mark > > Nigel > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Thu Mar 15 15:45:46 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:45:46 +0200 Subject: Not Solved e: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <81CE2F98-3892-4805-B501-0926DE2C8CBB@gmail.com> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60B9CD.4080103@prayingforisrael.net> <4F60EB47.2020209@prayingforisrael.net> <4F61D6D9.1060403@iinet.net.au> <4F61FAA9.8050605@prayingforisrael.net> <81CE2F98-3892-4805-B501-0926DE2C8CBB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F620EAA.3030709@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/15/2012 04:25 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > On 15 Mar 2012, at 14:20, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> On 03/15/2012 01:47 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 15/03/12 06:02, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>>> On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >>>>>> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Running 11.10 >>>>>>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> >>>>>>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use anti_aliasing:' >>>>>>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the 'Configure' >>>>>>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose 'Hinting >>>>>>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >>>>>>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back and >>>>>>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use >>>>>>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the same :-( >>>>>>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nigel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~ >>>>>> Isak >>>>>> __ >>>>>> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That did the trick - Thank you :-) >>>>> I was actually .fontconfig >>>>> >>>>> Nigel >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but they are still not crisp. >>>> The only thing I could find in .kde was .kde/share/config/kcmfonts: >>>> [General] >>>> dontChangeAASettings=true >>>> forceFontDPI=0 >>>> >>>> So where else might the settings be? >>>> I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of 12.04 >>>> >>>> Nigel >>> >>> You don't mention on what hardware you are having this problem - a desktop with XXXXX monitor >>> (where XXXX is a CRT or an LCD, which make and at what resolution) or is on a laptop. >>> >>> You also don't mention what video you are using - nVidia or Radeon, on board the mobo or as a >>> separate video card - and whether you have the *proper* driver installed or still using the >>> default driver. >>> >>> Nor do you mention which fonts you are using. I mention this because there are fonts specially >>> designed for printers and those designed for use for displaying text on monitors. >>> >>> The other thing, if you want to see decent fonts you do need to enable anti-aliasing with >>> sub-pixel rendering -provided that you have the proper video driver installed and you monitor is >>> capable of doing this. >>> >>> BC >>> >>> >> >> It is on a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop with Intel onboard graphics. But non of that is really important as the fonts were wonderful before I changed the settings and now changing the settings back to the way they were still leaves the fonts not as they were. >> The point of all this is: How does one get back the original settings that come with a default install after having played with the settings and messed them up? >> >> I shall create another user account and see if the fonts are clean - if they are then I shall try and find the config file and copy it over to my account. > > Nigel, > > It has occurred to me that I vaguely recall there is some kind of cacheing going on which complicates matters. I think what might help is to set your settings back as they were and change the font. Then log out, log back in, and change the font back to the original font without altering the other settings. I think that usually works for me. > > Mark > Nope. That didn't do it. After I created a new account and logged into it the fonts were great but I couldn't find any config file that contained anything to do with fonts. Logging out and renaming .kde to .kdesomething_else from a tty then logging back into a fresh new .kde also didn't help - the fonts were still not clean and sharp. So the config file is not in .kde. My next try will be to make a backup of all my stuff and wipe my home folder of everything and rebuild it back to what it was -- what a pain..... :-( Nigel >> Nigel >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu Mar 15 15:57:42 2012 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:57:42 +0000 Subject: KMail2 problems Message-ID: <201203151557.43402.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> I've finally upgraded one of my computers from Kubuntu 11.04 to Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.8.1. I've archived all my emails from KMail1 and tried to import them into KMail2, but nothing is working properly. Some times I'll do an import only to find no emails when I reload KMail2, other times I'll move emails around when KMail quits and then I've lost those emails. What directories/files do I need to delete for KMail2 and Akonadi to be back to how a new install would leave things? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Thu Mar 15 16:57:22 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:57:22 +0100 Subject: KMail2 problems In-Reply-To: <201203151557.43402.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <201203151557.43402.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <201203151757.23013.kassube@gmx.net> Mark Fraser wrote: > I've finally upgraded one of my computers from Kubuntu 11.04 to > Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.8.1. I've archived all my emails from > KMail1 and tried to import them into KMail2, but nothing is working > properly. Some times I'll do an import only to find no emails when I > reload KMail2, other times I'll move emails around when KMail quits > and then I've lost those emails. > > What directories/files do I need to delete for KMail2 and Akonadi to > be back to how a new install would leave things? From : | Kmail migration fails (857828). You will need to delete your | ~/.kde/share/config/kmail-migratorrc file, and run the migrator | manually - kmail-migrator --interactive or skip the migration tool and | reconfigure Kmail from scratch. Nils From stvrly at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 17:19:39 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:19:39 -0700 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: <2477824.SlnE9HxOdV@gkourtev-laptop> References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> <28953610.uCeJjmGAvG@sriley-t410> <2477824.SlnE9HxOdV@gkourtev-laptop> Message-ID: <2428585.4n3hEaiWel@sriley-t410> On 2012-03-15 10:07:23 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > > I put a quick shell script up on Kubuntu Forums that quickly fixes this. I > > suspect it will keep breaking as more updates come out until the > > underlying > > bug gets fixed. > > > > http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57819-Notification-Sounds- > > Disappeared-after-updates-to-KDE-4-8-1 > > > > ...Steve > > I tried to do the script -- no sounds however... > gk Hm... well, I noticed today that _some_ sounds disappeared, and I ran my script, which fixed those sounds but broke others. Then I noticed that a recent batch of updates fixed the pointers for a few, so my script essentially added a double-pointer. I fixed that on my PC this morning and everything's good again. Let's take a look at your sound configs and see if you're having the same problem. Please run: grep Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc and then copy-paste the output of that into a reply to this message. Thanks. ...Steve From ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk Thu Mar 15 17:21:11 2012 From: ubuntu at mfraz.orangehome.co.uk (Mark Fraser) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:21:11 +0000 Subject: KMail2 problems In-Reply-To: <201203151757.23013.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201203151557.43402.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201203151757.23013.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201203151721.12684.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> On Thursday 15 Mar 2012 16:57:22 Nils Kassube wrote: > Mark Fraser wrote: > > I've finally upgraded one of my computers from Kubuntu 11.04 to > > Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.8.1. I've archived all my emails from > > KMail1 and tried to import them into KMail2, but nothing is working > > properly. Some times I'll do an import only to find no emails when I > > reload KMail2, other times I'll move emails around when KMail quits > > and then I've lost those emails. > > > > What directories/files do I need to delete for KMail2 and Akonadi to > > be back to how a new install would leave things? > > From : > | Kmail migration fails (857828). You will need to delete your > | ~/.kde/share/config/kmail-migratorrc file, and run the migrator > | manually - kmail-migrator --interactive or skip the migration tool and > | reconfigure Kmail from scratch. I've tried that and it didn't work. I want to get rid of everything related to KMail2 so that it reconfigures everything when it is run again. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 18:04:58 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:04:58 +0200 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: <2428585.4n3hEaiWel@sriley-t410> References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> <28953610.uCeJjmGAvG@sriley-t410> <2477824.SlnE9HxOdV@gkourtev-laptop> <2428585.4n3hEaiWel@sriley-t410> Message-ID: > > Hm... well, I noticed today that _some_ sounds disappeared, and I ran my > script, which fixed those sounds but broke others. Then I noticed that a > recent > batch of updates fixed the pointers for a few, so my script essentially > added a > double-pointer. > > I fixed that on my PC this morning and everything's good again. Let's take > a > look at your sound configs and see if you're having the same problem. > Please > run: > > grep Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc > > and then copy-paste the output of that into a reply to this message. > Thanks. > > ...Steve > > > Thanks. Here is the output: grep Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- K3B-Finish-Success.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- K3B-Finish-Error.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- K3B-Insert-Medium.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Trash-Emptied.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-List-End.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-List-Match-No.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-List-Match-Multiple.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Serious.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Serious.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Log-Out.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Error-Printing.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Warning.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Critical.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Question.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Comment=Sound bell /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Comment[en_GB]=Sound bell /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Comment[x-test]=xxSound bellxx /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kmail2/kmail2.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-New-Mail.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/konsole.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Message-In.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Message-In.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Message-Out.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Contact-In.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Contact-Out.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Highlight-Msg.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Error-On-Connection.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Internal-Error.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Nudge.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Close.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Shade-Up.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Shade-Down.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Minimize.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Maximize.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Maximize.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Minimize.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-All-Desktops.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-All-Desktops-Not.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Window-Close.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwrited/kwrited.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwrited/kwrited.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Warning.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-Warning.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Critical.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Positive.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Negative.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Critical.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Negative.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Critical.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Critical.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Sys-App-Error-Critical.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/powerdevil/powerdevil.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/quassel/quassel.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Highlight-Msg.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/quassel/quassel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/quassel/quassel.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Highlight-Msg.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/quassel/quassel.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- Im-Message-In.ogg 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URL: From stvrly at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 18:21:39 2012 From: stvrly at gmail.com (Steve Riley) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:21:39 -0700 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> <2428585.4n3hEaiWel@sriley-t410> Message-ID: <32488806.eiexie6497@sriley-t410> On 2012-03-15 20:04:58 Georgi Kourtev wrote: > > Thanks. Here is the output: > > /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/file:/ > //usr/share/sounds/file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE- K3B-Finish-Success.ogg ---snip--- > ------END------- > gk Yup, same thing I ran into today. Here's how I fixed it. Run the following command. My email client wraps, but it should be a single line. Note that there is a space following the "-i". for j in /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc; do sudo sed -i 's_Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/_Sound=_g' $j; done That will remove the extraneous "file:///" stuff. Check the results with the same command I mentioned earlier: grep Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc If you still see "file:///" in any of the lines, run the "for" command again, and check the results with the "grep" command. Lather/rinse/repeat until there are no more lines with "file:///". Ultimately what you'll end up with are lines that show "Sound=filename" with no path. Now to get everything fixed with the correct path, run the original script I posted on KFN. ...Steve From kassube at gmx.net Thu Mar 15 18:29:06 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:29:06 +0100 Subject: KMail2 problems In-Reply-To: <201203151721.12684.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> References: <201203151557.43402.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201203151757.23013.kassube@gmx.net> <201203151721.12684.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> Message-ID: <201203151929.06326.kassube@gmx.net> Mark Fraser wrote: > On Thursday 15 Mar 2012 16:57:22 Nils Kassube wrote: > > From : > > | Kmail migration fails (857828). You will need to delete your > > | ~/.kde/share/config/kmail-migratorrc file, and run the migrator > > | manually - kmail-migrator --interactive or skip the migration > > | tool and reconfigure Kmail from scratch. > > I've tried that and it didn't work. I want to get rid of everything > related to KMail2 so that it reconfigures everything when it is run > again. There are sooo many files related to kmail2 ... I can't tell you exactly which files you should remove, but here are some pointers where the files might be: Have a look at "~/.kde/share/apps/". There are probably (I have only 12.04 to check) directories "kmail2" and "kmail-migrator". Then there are files in "~/.kde/share/config/" with "mail" in the name. On my 10.04 system (with kmail1) there are these: emaildefaults emailidentities kmail.eventsrc kmail.notifyrc kmailrc kmailsnippetrc mailtransports specialmailcollectionsrc Everything else you find with "mail" in the name is probably from kmail2. Finally there are files in "~/.local/share/" related to akonadi, but I don't know if they are only used for kmail2. Nils From info at alvin.be Thu Mar 15 18:37:32 2012 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:37:32 +0100 Subject: KMail2 problems In-Reply-To: <201203151929.06326.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201203151557.43402.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201203151757.23013.kassube@gmx.net> <201203151721.12684.ubuntu@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk> <201203151929.06326.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:29:06 +0100, Nils Kassube wrote: > Mark Fraser wrote: >> On Thursday 15 Mar 2012 16:57:22 Nils Kassube wrote: >> > From : >> > | Kmail migration fails (857828). You will need to delete your >> > | ~/.kde/share/config/kmail-migratorrc file, and run the migrator >> > | manually - kmail-migrator --interactive or skip the migration >> > | tool and reconfigure Kmail from scratch. >> >> I've tried that and it didn't work. I want to get rid of everything >> related to KMail2 so that it reconfigures everything when it is run >> again. > > There are sooo many files related to kmail2 ... > > I can't tell you exactly which files you should remove, but here are > some pointers where the files might be: Have a look at > "~/.kde/share/apps/". There are probably (I have only 12.04 to check) > directories "kmail2" and "kmail-migrator". Then there are files in > "~/.kde/share/config/" with "mail" in the name. On my 10.04 system (with > kmail1) there are these: > > emaildefaults emailidentities kmail.eventsrc kmail.notifyrc kmailrc > kmailsnippetrc mailtransports specialmailcollectionsrc > > Everything else you find with "mail" in the name is probably from > kmail2. Finally there are files in "~/.local/share/" related to akonadi, > but I don't know if they are only used for kmail2. I believe this link is what you're looking for: http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Clean_start_after_a_failed_migration From rjlapham at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 18:38:11 2012 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:38:11 -0400 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201203151438.11481.rjlapham@gmail.com> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 04:45:17 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in > the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with > suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) > that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via > the "select" button next the address field. Heck, distribution lists don't work here in KDE 4.6.5 on Kubuntu 11.04. I've given up and use templates containing the email addresses. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Trackball: a mouse that went belly up. From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 18:46:46 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:46:46 +0200 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: <32488806.eiexie6497@sriley-t410> References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> <2428585.4n3hEaiWel@sriley-t410> <32488806.eiexie6497@sriley-t410> Message-ID: > > Yup, same thing I ran into today. Here's how I fixed it. > > Run the following command. My email client wraps, but it should be a single > line. Note that there is a space following the "-i". > > for j in /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc; do sudo sed -i > 's_Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/_Sound=_g' $j; done > > That will remove the extraneous "file:///" stuff. Check the results with > the > same command I mentioned earlier: > > grep Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc > > If you still see "file:///" in any of the lines, run the "for" command > again, > and check the results with the "grep" command. Lather/rinse/repeat until > there > are no more lines with "file:///". > > Ultimately what you'll end up with are lines that show "Sound=filename" > with no > path. Now to get everything fixed with the correct path, run the original > script I posted on KFN. > > ...Steve > > > Thanks. I did that and I got rid off all all file:/// stuff. But after running the script, I see the file:/// lines again. Is this how it should be? See copy below. grep Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/*/*.notifyrc /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ApperSentinel/ApperSentinel.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-K3B-Finish-Success.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-K3B-Finish-Error.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-K3B-Insert-Medium.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/k3b/k3b.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kaccess/kaccess.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Trash-Emptied.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-List-End.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-List-Match-No.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-List-Match-Multiple.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Error-Serious.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Error.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Error-Serious.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Log-Out.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Error-Printing.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Warning.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Error-Critical.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Question.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Comment=Sound bell /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Comment[en_GB]=Sound bell /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Comment[x-test]=xxSound bellxx /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kde/kde.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kmail2/kmail2.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-New-Mail.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/konsole.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Message-In.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Message-In.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Message-Out.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Contact-In.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Contact-Out.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Highlight-Msg.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Error-On-Connection.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Internal-Error.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Nudge.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Action=Popup|Sound|Taskbar /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/kopete/kopete.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/ /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/ktorrent/ktorrent.notifyrc:Action=Sound|Popup /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg /usr/share/kde4/apps/kwin/kwin.notifyrc:Sound=file:///usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg 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Every once in a while, an update would revert the .notifyrc files to their broken state, so I'd have to run the script again. It appears now that some, but not all, of the .notifyrc files are fixed. So today's update resulted in some correct paths and some incorrect paths. When I ran my script, the incorrect paths were fixed; the already-correct paths received an extra "file:///" because my script is not smart enough to check whether such an entry is already there :) And if you look at your prior email, you'll lines with two "file:///" bits. So by following the procedure I described, all your .notifyrc files are correct as of right now. Who knows what'll happen with the next batch of updates. I guess I should make my little script a bit smarter... ...Steve From gkourtev at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 19:07:11 2012 From: gkourtev at gmail.com (Georgi Kourtev) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:07:11 +0200 Subject: System sounds In-Reply-To: <2586090.c1UQ8LIumM@sriley-t410> References: <1533142.4ICFrldtM7@gkourtev-laptop> <32488806.eiexie6497@sriley-t410> <2586090.c1UQ8LIumM@sriley-t410> Message-ID: > > Yes. There should be only one "file:///" for each line. > > Some weeks ago, a KDE update changed all the default .notifyrc files and > the > paths to the sound files were eliminated. I cobbled together that script > on KFN > to fix the problem -- much quicker than hand-editing each file or using > the GUI. > > Every once in a while, an update would revert the .notifyrc files to their > broken state, so I'd have to run the script again. > > It appears now that some, but not all, of the .notifyrc files are fixed. So > today's update resulted in some correct paths and some incorrect paths. > When I > ran my script, the incorrect paths were fixed; the already-correct paths > received an extra "file:///" because my script is not smart enough to check > whether such an entry is already there :) And if you look at your prior > email, > you'll lines with two "file:///" bits. > > So by following the procedure I described, all your .notifyrc files are > correct > as of right now. Who knows what'll happen with the next batch of updates. I > guess I should make my little script a bit smarter... > > ...Steve > > > Your script is smart enough for me being a 'behind the keyboard only interface'. After reboot all sounds are fine. Thanks a million! gk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 20:30:03 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:30:03 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <201203151438.11481.rjlapham@gmail.com> References: <4F61AC1D.8050708@gmail.com> <201203151438.11481.rjlapham@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F62514B.7090401@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 20:38, Jerry Lapham wrote: > On Thursday, March 15, 2012 04:45:17 AM O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address in >> the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up with >> suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard etc) >> that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen via >> the "select" button next the address field. > > Heck, distribution lists don't work here in KDE 4.6.5 on Kubuntu 11.04. I've > given up and use templates containing the email addresses. > > -Jerry > ============================================= > Jerry Lapham > Monroe, OH 45050 > rjlapham at gmail.com > ============================================= > Trackball: a mouse that went belly up. > For whatever it worth they are OK in 4.7.x on 11.10 - they just go missing every time nepomuk crash really bad so I have to recreate them now and then From tddrazul at frontier.com Thu Mar 15 20:40:34 2012 From: tddrazul at frontier.com (tddrazul at frontier.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:40:34 -0500 Subject: Thunderbird 10 question In-Reply-To: <4F5FA08A.1080000@gmail.com> References: <4F5E5D99.1070708@frontier.com> <4F5E797C.2040502@frontier.com> <4F5FA08A.1080000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F6253C2.1070509@frontier.com> On 03/13/2012 02:31 PM, Dimitris Kardarakos wrote: > On 03/13/2012 12:32 AM, tddrazul at frontier.com wrote: >> On 03/12/2012 03:39 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >>> Den 12 mars 2012 21:33 skrev tddrazul at frontier.com >>> >> >: >>> >>> When trying to open a link from inside a e-mail in Thunderbird >>> to a web site it fail to connect in either K-11.10 or K-12.04B. >>> Everything works correctly in LM-12, U-11.10/U-12.04B and Fedora 16. >>> >>> All hardware is the same as I use a removable HD draw system. >>> Have checked all systems configurations in Thunderbird in all >>> systems and they're all the same. >>> >>> The one thing different is, a pop up opens in Thunderbird and >>> asks which application it should use, click applications and all >>> you get is your home folder which doesn't contain any access to >>> any applications that would work. >>> >>> Any ideas would be appreciated >>> >>> Tom Drazul >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >>> >>> After clicking the link you can navigate to /usr/bin/firefox (if you >>> use Firefox) and the next time it should work automagically. >>> >>> ~~ >>> Isak >>> __ >>> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >>> >>> >> Isak: >> >> K-12.04 uses F-11. Again trying to clicking on any type of link >> inside the e-mail (actual link or picture) produces nothing ....... >> you just click/click away without any response from Thunderbird. All >> other functions like "reply/forward, etc" all work perfectly. >> >> What makes this situation so frustrating to me is that the other OS I >> mentioned, everything worked correctly right out of the box as they >> say. I'll wait now till K-12 goes final in April, maybe by then it >> will have been corrected. K-12-B is doing just fine other than this >> hick-up. >> >> Thanks for you help. >> >> Tom >> >> > Try to go to: Edit -> Preferences -> Tab: Attachment, and select on > Content Type: http, Content Type: https, Action: Use firefox. > > -- > Dimitris > > In attachments their isn't any listing for Firefox. I opened action / use other .... nothing in Dolphin / documents to start with .... found Firefox 10.2 tz in dolphin and put in documents. 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URL: From clay at claydoh.com Thu Mar 15 21:55:15 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:55:15 -0400 Subject: Not Solved e: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <4F620EAA.3030709@prayingforisrael.net> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <81CE2F98-3892-4805-B501-0926DE2C8CBB@gmail.com> <4F620EAA.3030709@prayingforisrael.net> Message-ID: <1369714.p3uvKOpXTr@lark-latitude-d630> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 05:45:46 PM Nigel Ridley wrote: > On 03/15/2012 04:25 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > On 15 Mar 2012, at 14:20, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >> On 03/15/2012 01:47 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > >>> On 15/03/12 06:02, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >>>> On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: > >>>>> On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: > >>>>>> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel Ridley: > >>>>>>> Running 11.10 > >>>>>>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> > >>>>>>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use > >>>>>>> anti_aliasing:' > >>>>>>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the > >>>>>>> 'Configure' > >>>>>>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose > >>>>>>> 'Hinting > >>>>>>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. > >>>>>>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use > >>>>>>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the > >>>>>>> same :-( > >>>>>>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Nigel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list > >>>>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>>>>>> info/kubuntu-users>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ~~ > >>>>>> Isak > >>>>>> __ > >>>>>> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com > >>>>> > >>>>> That did the trick - Thank you :-) > >>>>> I was actually .fontconfig > >>>>> > >>>>> Nigel > >>>> > >>>> I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but > >>>> they are still not crisp. The only thing I could find in .kde was > >>>> .kde/share/config/kcmfonts: [General] > >>>> dontChangeAASettings=true > >>>> forceFontDPI=0 > >>>> > >>>> So where else might the settings be? > >>>> I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of > >>>> 12.04 > >>>> > >>>> Nigel > >>> > >>> You don't mention on what hardware you are having this problem - a > >>> desktop with XXXXX monitor (where XXXX is a CRT or an LCD, which make > >>> and at what resolution) or is on a laptop. > >>> > >>> You also don't mention what video you are using - nVidia or Radeon, on > >>> board the mobo or as a separate video card - and whether you have the > >>> *proper* driver installed or still using the default driver. > >>> > >>> Nor do you mention which fonts you are using. I mention this because > >>> there are fonts specially designed for printers and those designed for > >>> use for displaying text on monitors. > >>> > >>> The other thing, if you want to see decent fonts you do need to enable > >>> anti-aliasing with sub-pixel rendering -provided that you have the > >>> proper video driver installed and you monitor is capable of doing this. > >>> > >>> BC > >> > >> It is on a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop with Intel onboard graphics. But non > >> of that is really important as the fonts were wonderful before I changed > >> the settings and now changing the settings back to the way they were > >> still leaves the fonts not as they were. The point of all this is: How > >> does one get back the original settings that come with a default install > >> after having played with the settings and messed them up? > >> > >> I shall create another user account and see if the fonts are clean - if > >> they are then I shall try and find the config file and copy it over to > >> my account.> > > Nigel, > > > > It has occurred to me that I vaguely recall there is some kind of cacheing > > going on which complicates matters. I think what might help is to set > > your settings back as they were and change the font. Then log out, log > > back in, and change the font back to the original font without altering > > the other settings. I think that usually works for me. > > > > Mark > > Nope. That didn't do it. > After I created a new account and logged into it the fonts were great but I > couldn't find any config file that contained anything to do with fonts. > Logging out and renaming .kde to .kdesomething_else from a tty then logging > back into a fresh new .kde also didn't help - the fonts were still not > clean and sharp. So the config file is not in .kde. My next try will be to > make a backup of all my stuff and wipe my home folder of everything and > rebuild it back to what it was -- what a pain..... :-( > > Nigel > > >> Nigel > >> > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-users mailing list > >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Have you looked at your ~/.fonts.conf and ~/.fontconfig? That may be a place to start. If you have a ~/.kderc that may have some font selections in there as well. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Mar 16 00:38:03 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:38:03 +1100 Subject: Thunderbird 10 question In-Reply-To: <4F5E797C.2040502@frontier.com> References: <4F5E5D99.1070708@frontier.com> <4F5E797C.2040502@frontier.com> Message-ID: <4F628B6B.6040501@iinet.net.au> On 13/03/12 09:32, tddrazul at frontier.com wrote: > On 03/12/2012 03:39 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >> Den 12 mars 2012 21:33 skrev tddrazul at frontier.com >> > >: >> >> When trying to open a link from inside a e-mail in Thunderbird to >> a web site it fail to connect in either K-11.10 or K-12.04B. >> Everything works correctly in LM-12, U-11.10/U-12.04B and Fedora 16. >> >> All hardware is the same as I use a removable HD draw system. >> Have checked all systems configurations in Thunderbird in all >> systems and they're all the same. >> >> The one thing different is, a pop up opens in Thunderbird and >> asks which application it should use, click applications and all >> you get is your home folder which doesn't contain any access to >> any applications that would work. >> >> Any ideas would be appreciated >> >> Tom Drazul >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> After clicking the link you can navigate to /usr/bin/firefox (if you >> use Firefox) and the next time it should work automagically. >> >> ~~ >> Isak >> __ >> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >> >> > Isak: > > K-12.04 uses F-11. Again trying to clicking on any type of link inside > the e-mail (actual link or picture) produces nothing ....... you just > click/click away without any response from Thunderbird. All other > functions like "reply/forward, etc" all work perfectly. > > What makes this situation so frustrating to me is that the other OS I > mentioned, everything worked correctly right out of the box as they > say. I'll wait now till K-12 goes final in April, maybe by then it > will have been corrected. K-12-B is doing just fine other than this > hick-up. > > Thanks for you help. > > Tom > > Have you looked here?: http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/hyperlinks-in-messages-not-working?s=won%27t+open+link&as=s BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Fri Mar 16 05:24:09 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:24:09 +0200 Subject: Solved Finally - Re: Not Solved e: Solved Re: Horrible fonts 11.10 In-Reply-To: <1369714.p3uvKOpXTr@lark-latitude-d630> References: <4F607897.6000108@prayingforisrael.net> <81CE2F98-3892-4805-B501-0926DE2C8CBB@gmail.com> <4F620EAA.3030709@prayingforisrael.net> <1369714.p3uvKOpXTr@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: <4F62CE79.7080902@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/15/2012 11:55 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Thursday, March 15, 2012 05:45:46 PM Nigel Ridley wrote: >> On 03/15/2012 04:25 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote: >>> On 15 Mar 2012, at 14:20, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>> On 03/15/2012 01:47 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: >>>>> On 15/03/12 06:02, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>>>> On 03/14/2012 05:31 PM, Nigel Ridley wrote: >>>>>>> On 03/14/2012 04:57 PM, Isak Enström wrote: >>>>>>>> Den 14 mars 2012 11:53 skrev Nigel > Ridley: >>>>>>>>> Running 11.10 >>>>>>>>> Don't really know why I did it but I went into System Setting> >>>>>>>>> Application Appearance> Fonts and changed the option 'Use >>>>>>>>> anti_aliasing:' >>>>>>>>> from 'System Settings' to 'Enabled' and then clicked on the >>>>>>>>> 'Configure' >>>>>>>>> button and checked 'Use sub-pixel rendering:'RGB' and then chose >>>>>>>>> 'Hinting >>>>>>>>> style:' 'Medium'. Clicked 'OK' and then 'Apply'. >>>>>>>>> Then the fonts looked ugly in newly opened apps. I then went back >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> returned the font setting to how they were to begin with: 'Use >>>>>>>>> anti_aliasing:' 'System Settings'. But still the fonts looked the >>>>>>>>> same :-( >>>>>>>>> No matter what I tried to change the fonts still are ugly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What can I do to get back my nice looking fonts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nigel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>>>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users>>>>>>>> info/kubuntu-users>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try deleting/renaming /home//.fonts.conf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~~ >>>>>>>> Isak >>>>>>>> __ >>>>>>>> Powered by Ubuntu - www.ubuntu.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That did the trick - Thank you :-) >>>>>>> I was actually .fontconfig >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nigel >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought it was solved - the fonts looked much better than before but >>>>>> they are still not crisp. The only thing I could find in .kde was >>>>>> .kde/share/config/kcmfonts: [General] >>>>>> dontChangeAASettings=true >>>>>> forceFontDPI=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> So where else might the settings be? >>>>>> I suppose I could put up with them and wait until a clean install of >>>>>> 12.04 >>>>>> >>>>>> Nigel >>>>> >>>>> You don't mention on what hardware you are having this problem - a >>>>> desktop with XXXXX monitor (where XXXX is a CRT or an LCD, which make >>>>> and at what resolution) or is on a laptop. >>>>> >>>>> You also don't mention what video you are using - nVidia or Radeon, on >>>>> board the mobo or as a separate video card - and whether you have the >>>>> *proper* driver installed or still using the default driver. >>>>> >>>>> Nor do you mention which fonts you are using. I mention this because >>>>> there are fonts specially designed for printers and those designed for >>>>> use for displaying text on monitors. >>>>> >>>>> The other thing, if you want to see decent fonts you do need to enable >>>>> anti-aliasing with sub-pixel rendering -provided that you have the >>>>> proper video driver installed and you monitor is capable of doing this. >>>>> >>>>> BC >>>> >>>> It is on a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop with Intel onboard graphics. But non >>>> of that is really important as the fonts were wonderful before I changed >>>> the settings and now changing the settings back to the way they were >>>> still leaves the fonts not as they were. The point of all this is: How >>>> does one get back the original settings that come with a default install >>>> after having played with the settings and messed them up? >>>> >>>> I shall create another user account and see if the fonts are clean - if >>>> they are then I shall try and find the config file and copy it over to >>>> my account.> >>> Nigel, >>> >>> It has occurred to me that I vaguely recall there is some kind of cacheing >>> going on which complicates matters. I think what might help is to set >>> your settings back as they were and change the font. Then log out, log >>> back in, and change the font back to the original font without altering >>> the other settings. I think that usually works for me. >>> >>> Mark >> >> Nope. That didn't do it. >> After I created a new account and logged into it the fonts were great but I >> couldn't find any config file that contained anything to do with fonts. >> Logging out and renaming .kde to .kdesomething_else from a tty then logging >> back into a fresh new .kde also didn't help - the fonts were still not >> clean and sharp. So the config file is not in .kde. My next try will be to >> make a backup of all my stuff and wipe my home folder of everything and >> rebuild it back to what it was -- what a pain..... :-( >> >> Nigel >> >>>> Nigel >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > Have you looked at your ~/.fonts.conf and ~/.fontconfig? That may be a place to > start. If you have a ~/.kderc that may have some font selections in there as > well. > YES! Sorry for shouting but that finally did it :-) I renamed the ~/.fonts.conf and ~/.kderc, letting the system create new ones on a new login. Now everything is looking crisp and clean again :-) :-) Nigel From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 05:27:25 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:57:25 -0430 Subject: How to use "semantic desktop" (nepomuk search)? Message-ID: Greetings, After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe, I just don't know how to use it. I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't understand why when I type in (for example) 201203 (to get some files that *I know* includes that string on the name), I get, in addition to these files, A LOT of unrelated files (some .mp3 files, some videos, even plain text files that doesn't have that string anywhere!). Please note I'm searching for filename, not content, so: it shouldn't include files that doesn't have the search string on its name. Has anybody around here used this search system correctly? also, do you have any pointers that can help me better understand this? Thanks! Ildefonso From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Mar 16 05:43:53 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:43:53 +1100 Subject: How to use "semantic desktop" (nepomuk search)? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F62D319.80205@iinet.net.au> On 16/03/12 16:27, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > Greetings, > > After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to > wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe, > I just don't know how to use it. > > I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in > some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search > results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't > understand why when I type in (for example) 201203 (to get some files > that *I know* includes that string on the name), I get, in addition to > these files, A LOT of unrelated files (some .mp3 files, some videos, > even plain text files that doesn't have that string anywhere!). > > Please note I'm searching for filename, not content, so: it shouldn't > include files that doesn't have the search string on its name. > > Has anybody around here used this search system correctly? also, do > you have any pointers that can help me better understand this? > > Thanks! > > Ildefonso The first thing I always do is to switch off this nepo thing - meaning that I don't use it. All I can do is offer a suggestion as to why you are getting the results you are getting: that number is very suspiciously like a date. Perhaps one should use ' ' around the search word? dunno because, as I said, I don't use this resource-gobbling monster. (You know, it is rather strange......I use 99.9% of the time mc (Midnight Commander) as my file manager and it has a search facility which can also search the contents of files. And it does not tie up my resources......) BC -- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar. Niccolo Machiavelli From fatgerman at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 10:30:19 2012 From: fatgerman at gmail.com (Mark Greenwood) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:30:19 +0000 Subject: How to use "semantic desktop" (nepomuk search)? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 16 Mar 2012, at 05:27, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > Greetings, > > After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to > wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe, > I just don't know how to use it. > > I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in > some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search > results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't I can't help you because I didn't even know there was a search box on Dolphin. How did you get that to appear? Mark > understand why when I type in (for example) 201203 (to get some files > that *I know* includes that string on the name), I get, in addition to > these files, A LOT of unrelated files (some .mp3 files, some videos, > even plain text files that doesn't have that string anywhere!). > > Please note I'm searching for filename, not content, so: it shouldn't > include files that doesn't have the search string on its name. > > Has anybody around here used this search system correctly? also, do > you have any pointers that can help me better understand this? > > Thanks! > > Ildefonso > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 15:25:22 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:55:22 -0430 Subject: How to use "semantic desktop" (nepomuk search)? In-Reply-To: <4F62D319.80205@iinet.net.au> References: <4F62D319.80205@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 16/03/12 16:27, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to >> wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe, >> I just don't know how to use it. >> >> I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in >> some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search >> results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't >> understand why when I type in (for example) 201203 (to get some files >> that *I know* includes that string on the name), I get, in addition to >> these files, A LOT of unrelated files (some .mp3 files, some videos, >> even plain text files that doesn't have that string anywhere!). >> >> Please note I'm searching for filename, not content, so: it shouldn't >> include files that doesn't have the search string on its name. >> >> Has anybody around here used this search system correctly? also, do >> you have any pointers that can help me better understand this? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Ildefonso > > > The first thing I always do is to switch off this nepo thing - meaning that > I don't use it. All I can do is offer a suggestion as to why you are getting > the results you are getting: that number is very suspiciously like a date. > Perhaps one should use ' ' around the search word? dunno because, as I said, > I don't use this resource-gobbling monster. Yep, it is a date, but the files it brought doesn't have that date anywhere either :( . As a matter of fact, almost for any search term, I always get some unrelated files. > > (You know, it is rather strange......I use 99.9% of the time mc (Midnight > Commander) as my file manager and it has a search facility which can also > search the contents of files. And it does not tie up my resources......) Well, it doesn't tie up resources anymore (I can barely tell it is running), but it took over a week for it to finish indexing, and, at last, say that it was idle. Consider I have over 200k files on my home folder, so.... I use to use mlocate, and I'm happy with it, however, I got the feeling this file indexer could be good, because you should quickly get files that contains a string, without having actually read all your files everytime you want to search (I don't believe mc have a persistent index, does it?... I use to use find + grep, or locate + grep (and a for) to search within file's content). Ildefonso. From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 15:28:19 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:58:19 -0430 Subject: How to use "semantic desktop" (nepomuk search)? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi! On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote: > > On 16 Mar 2012, at 05:27, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> After investing a lot of time and system resources, I'm beginning to >> wonder if it really worth to have file indexing enabled.... or maybe, >> I just don't know how to use it. >> >> I have file indexing enabled, and, as far as I know, I should type in >> some words on the search box on Dolphin, and I should get search >> results related to the words I entered, right? well, I can't > > I can't help you because I didn't even know there was a search box on Dolphin. How did you get that to appear? uh... well, on my Dolphin, I just see a couple of binoculars on the toolbar, I just click there... it *almost* works. Except that it shows unrelated files.... mmm.. now that I tried the other search type (content), it doesn't show unrelated files, and it is quite fast.... this thing looks interesting. Ildefonso. From michael.renner at gmx.de Tue Mar 20 22:21:14 2012 From: michael.renner at gmx.de (Michael Renner) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:21:14 +0100 Subject: what happend to the kubuntu netbook edition? Message-ID: <201203202321.16884.michael.renner@gmx.de> Moin, I just found my old Asus Eee PC 701. It is maybe good enough for the kubuntu netbook edition. But I can't find an iso file. I found some links, but they are dead. Any hint? Thanks -- |Michael Renner E-mail: michael.renner at gmx.de | |81541 Munich skype: michael.renner.gmx.de | |Germany Don't drink as root! ESC:wq From d.kardarakos at gmail.com Tue Mar 20 22:28:58 2012 From: d.kardarakos at gmail.com (Dimitris Kardarakos) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:28:58 +0200 Subject: what happend to the kubuntu netbook edition? In-Reply-To: <201203202321.16884.michael.renner@gmx.de> References: <201203202321.16884.michael.renner@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4F6904AA.30609@gmail.com> On 03/21/2012 12:21 AM, Michael Renner wrote: > Moin, > > I just found my old Asus Eee PC 701. It is maybe good enough for the kubuntu > netbook edition. But I can't find an iso file. I found some links, but they > are dead. Any hint? > > Thanks If you mean "Netbook" workspace type, it will be the -normally- automatically selected post-installation workspace type. Otherwise, you can select it from System Preferences. -- Dimitris From rterry at pacific.net.au Wed Mar 21 03:58:17 2012 From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:58:17 +1100 Subject: Kubuntu 12 + virtualbox Message-ID: <201203211458.17901.rterry@pacific.net.au> Hi List, I wondered if anyone had sucessfully installed virtualbox in beta12, and if so how to go about it. Any help appreciated richard From felixrubiodalmau at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 10:10:48 2012 From: felixrubiodalmau at gmail.com (Felix Rubio Dalmau) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:10:48 +0100 Subject: akonadi interaction with kontact? Message-ID: <201203211110.48605.felixrubiodalmau@gmail.com> Hi guys, I have realised today that, although in kontact/Calendar (version 4.4.11) I have a calendar called Professional under section "akonadi calendar", this calendar is marked as a "no KDE calendar plugin configured yet" in akonadi resource configuration. The behavior is strange, because kontact/Calendar is working properly (and I think that using akonadi), so I do not understand what's happening, if it is happening anything wrong, and how to solve it if that's the case. Do any of you have any idea on what could/should I do? 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Just install it from the Ubuntu repository - that should work. If it doesn't work for you, please provide some detail of the problems you see. Nils From griesethefourth at googlemail.com Wed Mar 21 21:37:31 2012 From: griesethefourth at googlemail.com (Johannes Griese) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:37:31 +0100 Subject: deactive tooltips Message-ID: <1792831.K3UzUfYXb9@johannes-hp-625> Hi, I am trying to find a way to deactivate tooltips system-wide. Till now I only found solution for specific applications. They are most annoying in chromium because on many websites they appear everytime I move the mouse pointer. Thanks for any help! From rterry at pacific.net.au Wed Mar 21 22:05:39 2012 From: rterry at pacific.net.au (rterry at pacific.net.au) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:05:39 +1100 Subject: Kubuntu 12 + virtualbox In-Reply-To: <201203211409.34647.kassube@gmx.net> References: <201203211458.17901.rterry@pacific.net.au> <201203211409.34647.kassube@gmx.net> Message-ID: <201203220905.39997.rterry@pacific.net.au> On Thursday 22 March 2012 00:09:34 Nils Kassube wrote: > rterry at pacific.net.au wrote: > > I wondered if anyone had sucessfully installed virtualbox in beta12, > > and if so how to go about it. > > Just install it from the Ubuntu repository - that should work. If it > doesn't work for you, please provide some detail of the problems you > see. > > > Nils > I tried the general install for any linux system which didn't run, as there seemed no repository for 'precise' which I thought was the kubuntu 12 From the virtual box website: Debian-based Linux distributions Note: VirtualBox has been moved from non-free to contrib with 4.0, so please adjust your repository settings. Add one of the following lines according to your distribution to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian oneiric contrib deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian natty contrib deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lucid contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian karmic contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian hardy contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny contrib non-free I tried substituting precise, but to no avail. REgards richard End of encapsulated message From clay at claydoh.com Wed Mar 21 22:44:12 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:44:12 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 12 + virtualbox In-Reply-To: <201203220905.39997.rterry@pacific.net.au> References: <201203211458.17901.rterry@pacific.net.au> <201203211409.34647.kassube@gmx.net> <201203220905.39997.rterry@pacific.net.au> Message-ID: <3926750.4LvhAtF6LF@lark-latitude-d630> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 09:05:39 AM rterry at pacific.net.au wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2012 00:09:34 Nils Kassube wrote: > > rterry at pacific.net.au wrote: > > > I wondered if anyone had sucessfully installed virtualbox in beta12, > > > and if so how to go about it. > > > > Just install it from the Ubuntu repository - that should work. If it > > doesn't work for you, please provide some detail of the problems you > > see. > > > > > > Nils > > I tried the general install for any linux system which didn't run, as there > seemed no repository for 'precise' which I thought was the kubuntu 12 > > From the virtual box website: > > Debian-based Linux distributions > > Note: VirtualBox has been moved from non-free to contrib with 4.0, so please > adjust your repository settings. > > Add one of the following lines according to your distribution to your > /etc/apt/sources.list: > > deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian oneiric contrib > deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian natty contrib > deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian maverick contrib > non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lucid contrib > non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian karmic > contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian hardy > contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian > squeeze contrib non-free deb > http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny contrib non-free > > I tried substituting precise, but to no avail. > > REgards > > richard > > > End of encapsulated message You are correct, Virtualbox don't yet provide a repo for Precise 12.04, you may want to try installing the version available in the normal Ubuntu repos, which at the moment seem to be the latest version. You can try downloading the Oneiric package as listed in VBox's download page and try installing that. Also installing the package 'dkms' may help as it will try to automatically recompile the required kernel modules when your kernel is updated (extremely often in 12.04 as it is still in heavy development). Using the Virtualbox from the official Ubuntu repos may save you some effort in this, assuming that any development kernel updates don't temporarily break it. .-- clay From kassube at gmx.net Wed Mar 21 22:53:28 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:53:28 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 12 + virtualbox In-Reply-To: <201203220905.39997.rterry@pacific.net.au> References: <201203211458.17901.rterry@pacific.net.au> <201203211409.34647.kassube@gmx.net> <201203220905.39997.rterry@pacific.net.au> Message-ID: <201203212353.28547.kassube@gmx.net> rterry at pacific.net.au wrote: > On Thursday 22 March 2012 00:09:34 Nils Kassube wrote: > > rterry at pacific.net.au wrote: > > > I wondered if anyone had sucessfully installed virtualbox in > > > beta12, and if so how to go about it. > > > > Just install it from the Ubuntu repository - that should work. If > > it doesn't work for you, please provide some detail of the > > problems you see. > > I tried the general install for any linux system which didn't run, as > there seemed no repository for 'precise' which I thought was the > kubuntu 12 > > From the virtual box website: > > Debian-based Linux distributions > [...] I see, you tried the version from the virtualbox website. I suppose they won't provide a precise version before the release of 12.04. I used the version for precise coming from the Ubuntu repositories and that one worked for me. But if you really need the version from the virtualbox website, you could try the version for oneiric instead of the (not yet available) version for precise. Nils From pkaplan1 at comcast.net Thu Mar 22 00:22:37 2012 From: pkaplan1 at comcast.net (Paul Kaplan) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:22:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: deactive tooltips In-Reply-To: <1792831.K3UzUfYXb9@johannes-hp-625> Message-ID: <904345961.628622.1332375757967.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Maybe not system wide, but...System Settings>Workspace Behavior>Workspace> deselect "Show Informational Tips" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johannes Griese" To: "Kubuntu user technical support" Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:37:31 PM Subject: deactive tooltips Hi, I am trying to find a way to deactivate tooltips system-wide. Till now I only found solution for specific applications. They are most annoying in chromium because on many websites they appear everytime I move the mouse pointer. Thanks for any help! -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vania.joloboff at inria.fr Fri Mar 23 03:09:40 2012 From: vania.joloboff at inria.fr (Vania Joloboff) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:09:40 +0800 Subject: which kernel for coming 12.4 release Message-ID: <4F6BE974.4050400@inria.fr> Hi, I could not find the info on the Kubuntu announcement. Which version of Linux kernel will be coming with the Kubuntu 12.4 ? Or more generally is Kubuntu 12.4 the KDE version of Ubuntu 12.4 with the same version numbers for anything unrelated to KDE ? -- Vania Joloboff ====================================================================== International Project FORMES INRIA-CNRS-Tsinghua University, Shenzhen SIAT From griesethefourth at googlemail.com Thu Mar 22 12:45:18 2012 From: griesethefourth at googlemail.com (Johannes Griese) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:45:18 +0100 Subject: deactive tooltips In-Reply-To: <904345961.628622.1332375757967.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <904345961.628622.1332375757967.JavaMail.root@sz0131a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <22211643.XSQThFvMCT@johannes-hp-625> No, this option effects only on the taskbar. I want those tooltips to disappear: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/tooltips.png/ On Thursday 22 March 2012 00:22:37 Paul Kaplan wrote: Maybe not system wide, but...System Settings>Workspace Behavior>Workspace> deselect "Show Informational Tips" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Thu Mar 22 21:40:26 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:40:26 +0100 Subject: which kernel for coming 12.4 release In-Reply-To: <4F6BE974.4050400@inria.fr> References: <4F6BE974.4050400@inria.fr> Message-ID: <201203222240.27340.kassube@gmx.net> Vania Joloboff wrote: > Which version of Linux kernel will be coming with the Kubuntu 12.4 ? With the latest updates came 3.2.0-20. > Or more generally is Kubuntu 12.4 the KDE version of Ubuntu 12.4 > with the same version numbers for anything unrelated to KDE ? Yes, as always the versions of Kubuntu and Ubuntu are the same because Kubuntu is the base system of Ubuntu with KDE as desktop instead of Gnome/Unity. Nils From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 09:27:01 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:27:01 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> On 15/03/12 11:34, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 15/03/12 11:10, ensane94 at gmail.com wrote: >> Dear Mr. Sinclair, >> >> The bug that you have explain is not a kmail bug but unfortunally is an >> OS bug. We will try to resolve this problem...but you can try to use a >> stable mod of kubuntu ( 11.10 ). >> Personally kmail never crash in my kubuntu 11.10. >> >> So, we will work about this bug. Thanks for contuct us. >> >> Bye, Mirko. >> >> Inviato da HTC >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> Da: "Mark Greenwood" >> A: "Kubuntu user technical support" >> Oggetto: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least >> Data: gio, mar 15, 2012 09:49 >> >> >> >> On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:45, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> > For starters I use Kontact/KMail and the bug in question is related >> to that - so if you are not you may not be interested. >> > >> > In short - I have tried 4.8.1 on stable 11.10 and beta 12.04 Kubuntu. >> In both cases I can not get KMail and KAddressbook to function together. >> > >> > On writing a new email I type the first letters of an email address >> in the "To" (or CC, BCC etc) field - "recent addresses" will come up >> with suggestions but not Personal Contacts or ANY addressbook (vcard >> etc) that I have tried. Distribution lists do not work, even if chosen >> via the "select" button next the address field. >> > >> > I would LOVE to have confirmed if this is a general bug or if someone >> else has it working - in which case I have to find out how. If not I am >> on 4.7.4 until I hear that this works... >> > >> > Best, >> > Sinclair >> >> I can only confirm that I have similar behaviour, although I did a great >> deal of messing around with creating new address books in various ways >> and now when I type into the 'To' field, everything crashes. >> >> :( Not good. >> >> Mark >> > > I AM using 11.10 w KDE 4.7.4 and will do so until I hear this is solved > - or if I hear it works on other distros I might actually swap distro as > this is very important function to me. > > IF it is Kubuntu-related I sure hope it is fixed before LTS 12.04 release > well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was deliberately removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". But will not be back in main code until 4.9... which means 4.8.x is a no-go area for me at least. And so will 12.04 be until I see that KDE 4.9 is released and backported From myriam at kubuntu.org Fri Mar 23 09:39:45 2012 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:39:45 +0100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair wrote: ... > > well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was deliberately > removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". But will > not be back in main code until 4.9... Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a post stating it was deliberately removed so far. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at kubuntu.org Fri Mar 23 09:51:26 2012 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:51:26 +0100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair wrote: > ... >> >> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was deliberately >> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". But will >> not be back in main code until 4.9... > > Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a > post stating it was deliberately removed so far. Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users complain... Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 09:58:34 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:58:34 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair wrote: >> ... >>> >>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was deliberately >>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". But will >>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >> >> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. > > Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 > > /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users complain... > > Regards, Myriam > You are not the only one Myriam... http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Mar 23 10:29:29 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:29:29 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> On 23/03/12 20:58, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam >> Schweingruber wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair >>> wrote: >>> ... >>>> >>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>> deliberately >>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". >>>> But will >>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>> >>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >> >> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >> >> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >> complain... >> >> Regards, Myriam >> > You are not the only one Myriam... > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 > > disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same As it is with all Linux distros, there are other options available. Unless you have a VERY particular reason to use kmail - which, in this case, is not working for you anyway - then why not use Thunderbird? Latest version out is v11.0. "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" BC -- Wife sent me to the doctor to get the pills for me to have an erection. When I came back I gave her the packet of slimming pills. I am still looking for somewhere to live. From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 13:14:01 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 08:44:01 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: Hi! On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 23/03/12 20:58, O. Sinclair wrote: >> >> On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam Schweingruber >>>  wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair  wrote: >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>>> deliberately >>>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". But >>>>> will >>>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>>> >>>> >>>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >>> >>> >>> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>> >>> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >>> complain... >>> >>> Regards, Myriam >>> >> You are not the only one Myriam... >> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >> >> disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same > > > As it is with all Linux distros, there are other options available. > > Unless you have a VERY particular reason to use kmail - which, in this case, > is not working for you anyway - then why not use Thunderbird? Latest version > out is v11.0. Thunderbird is slower (for me, at least), but due that kmail now have this annoying issue that it just "disconnects" and doesn't get new emails after a while (after 1~3 hours, unpredictable), and I have to close it and re-open to get it going again, I guess I have no way out but to go back to thunderbird (evolution is not in good shape right now either). > > "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" well, thunderbird hurts too, only not on so important areas.... at least it will get new emails. Ildefonso. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Mar 23 13:31:15 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 00:31:15 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> On 24/03/12 00:14, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > Hi! > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 23/03/12 20:58, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam Schweingruber >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>>>> deliberately >>>>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". But >>>>>> will >>>>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>>>> >>>>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>>>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >>>> >>>> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>>> >>>> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >>>> complain... >>>> >>>> Regards, Myriam >>>> >>> You are not the only one Myriam... >>> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>> >>> disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same >> >> As it is with all Linux distros, there are other options available. >> >> Unless you have a VERY particular reason to use kmail - which, in this case, >> is not working for you anyway - then why not use Thunderbird? Latest version >> out is v11.0. > Thunderbird is slower (for me, at least), I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component of Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think that it is slow? > but due that kmail now have > this annoying issue that it just "disconnects" and doesn't get new > emails after a while (after 1~3 hours, unpredictable), and I have to > close it and re-open to get it going again, I guess I have no way out > but to go back to thunderbird (evolution is not in good shape right > now either). > >> "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" > well, thunderbird hurts too, only not on so important areas So it only hurts only on those unimportant points, right? :-) . Again, could you please mention what these points are where TB "hurts". > .... at > least it will get new emails. Well, it seems to me a very good reason then to use it, right? :-D BC -- Wife sent me to the doctor to get the pills for me to have an erection. When I came back I gave her the packet of slimming pills. I am still looking for somewhere to live. From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 13:47:18 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:17:18 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 24/03/12 00:14, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Basil Chupin >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 23/03/12 20:58, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> >>>> On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam Schweingruber >>>>>  wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair >>>>>>  wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>>>>> deliberately >>>>>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". But >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>>>>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>>>> >>>>> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >>>>> complain... >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Myriam >>>>> >>>> You are not the only one Myriam... >>>> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>>> >>>> disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same >>> >>> >>> As it is with all Linux distros, there are other options available. >>> >>> Unless you have a VERY particular reason to use kmail - which, in this >>> case, >>> is not working for you anyway - then why not use Thunderbird? Latest >>> version >>> out is v11.0. >> >> Thunderbird is slower (for me, at least), > > > I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component of > Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. > > So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as > mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think that it > is slow? Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't respond.. and it can take up to 3 minutes (usually ~1 minute, but can be more).... kmail is faster doing this (and doesn't becomes unresponsive). > > > >>  but due that kmail now have >> this annoying issue that it just "disconnects" and doesn't get new >> emails after a while (after 1~3 hours, unpredictable), and I have to >> close it and re-open to get it going again, I guess I have no way out >> but to go back to thunderbird (evolution is not in good shape right >> now either). >> >>> "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" >> >> well, thunderbird hurts too, only not on so important areas > > > So it only hurts only on those unimportant points, right? :-) . > > Again, could you please mention what these points are where TB "hurts". Slowness, that's the most important to me... Another is the fact that it does illogical things while dealing with attachments, I hasn't really tested this with kmail yet (just forgot to do it, but I will), because this problem was reported by a customer who have very slow Internet links, and uses Windows, I verified this on Linux TB too: 1. It will either: completely download all attachments, or download no attachments at all (no "maximum download" that works, like k9 mail (android)). 2. If you can make it to *not* download the attachments initially, and you open an attachment, it will download the attachment from the imap server, but if you want to open the same attachment again later: it will download it again!!!! (I don't want to save disk, I want to save bandwidth)....no good. > > >> .... at >> least it will get new emails. > > > Well, it seems to me a very good reason then to use it, right? :-D Right, that's why I'm going back to it for now. Ildefonso. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 23 14:47:09 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:47:09 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F6C8CED.5050506@gmail.com> On 23/03/12 12:29, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 23/03/12 20:58, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam >>> Schweingruber wrote: >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>>> deliberately >>>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". >>>>> But will >>>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>>> >>>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >>> >>> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>> >>> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >>> complain... >>> >>> Regards, Myriam >>> >> You are not the only one Myriam... >> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >> >> disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same > > As it is with all Linux distros, there are other options available. > > Unless you have a VERY particular reason to use kmail - which, in this > case, is not working for you anyway - then why not use Thunderbird? > Latest version out is v11.0. > > "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" > I find TB to be much less versatile (when KMail/Kontact works that is) so I prefer KMail/Kontact. I will simply stay on the current version (in my case 4.7.4) until this is fixed. What baffles me is how a version with this function (that I consider basic) disabled was released. From lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 23:12:38 2012 From: lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com (Lindsay Mathieson) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 09:12:38 +1000 Subject: Stop kmix autostarting Message-ID: <1753059.fpRmDt8g7O@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Using kubuntu 12.04 and have veromix installed - very nice. However I no longer need kmix but can't figure out how to stop it starting on every login? its not in the autostart list. thanks, -- Lindsay From theunknownandrew at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 05:10:23 2012 From: theunknownandrew at gmail.com (d~_*b) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:40:23 +0530 Subject: Stop kmix autostarting In-Reply-To: <1753059.fpRmDt8g7O@lindsay-kubuntu-12> References: <1753059.fpRmDt8g7O@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Message-ID: <1990978.jJqlJVasfK@homsys> On Sunday 25 Mar 2012 9:12:38 AM Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Using kubuntu 12.04 and have veromix installed - very nice. However I no > longer need kmix but can't figure out how to stop it starting on every > login? its not in the autostart list. > > thanks, On Sunday 25 Mar 2012 9:12:38 AM you wrote: I suggest you try this. In the 'Configure KMix' > 'Settings' dialog I see an option that says 'Restore Volume on Login'. Un check this and then Right Click on the KMix icon in the System Tray Applet and choose Quit Else i guess you caan also remove the KMix applet from the System Tray applet, This may stop the KMix app to load during the start as well. I suspect this will not load the KMix applet again during a session start and yes these are just suggestions to try, you can however always search the web for more ways. -- & Ru From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun Mar 25 06:11:14 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:11:14 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6C8CED.5050506@gmail.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C8CED.5050506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F6EB702.5010903@iinet.net.au> On 24/03/12 01:47, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 23/03/12 12:29, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 23/03/12 20:58, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam >>>> Schweingruber wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair >>>>> wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>>>> deliberately >>>>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". >>>>>> But will >>>>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>>>> >>>>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>>>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >>>> >>>> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>>> >>>> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >>>> complain... >>>> >>>> Regards, Myriam >>>> >>> You are not the only one Myriam... >>> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>> >>> disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same >> >> As it is with all Linux distros, there are other options available. >> >> Unless you have a VERY particular reason to use kmail - which, in this >> case, is not working for you anyway - then why not use Thunderbird? >> Latest version out is v11.0. >> >> "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" >> > I find TB to be much less versatile (when KMail/Kontact works that is) > so I prefer KMail/Kontact. I will simply stay on the current version > (in my case 4.7.4) until this is fixed. What baffles me is how a > version with this function (that I consider basic) disabled was released. As I mentioned, I have never used kmail and do not know what this "Kontact" you mention does. But doing a search in the TB Addos on the word "kontact" produces SyncKolab. BC -- Q. What did you do wrong if your wife keeps coming out of the kitchen to nag you? A. You made the chain too long. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 06:45:50 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:45:50 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6EB702.5010903@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C8CED.5050506@gmail.com> <4F6EB702.5010903@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F6EBF1E.8040006@gmail.com> On 25/03/12 08:11, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 24/03/12 01:47, O. Sinclair wrote: >> On 23/03/12 12:29, Basil Chupin wrote: >>> On 23/03/12 20:58, O. Sinclair wrote: >>>> On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam >>>>> Schweingruber wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>>>>> deliberately >>>>>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". >>>>>>> But will >>>>>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>>>>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >>>>> >>>>> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>>>> >>>>> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >>>>> complain... >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Myriam >>>>> >>>> You are not the only one Myriam... >>>> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >>>> >>>> disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same >>> >>> As it is with all Linux distros, there are other options available. >>> >>> Unless you have a VERY particular reason to use kmail - which, in this >>> case, is not working for you anyway - then why not use Thunderbird? >>> Latest version out is v11.0. >>> >>> "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" >>> >> I find TB to be much less versatile (when KMail/Kontact works that is) >> so I prefer KMail/Kontact. I will simply stay on the current version >> (in my case 4.7.4) until this is fixed. What baffles me is how a >> version with this function (that I consider basic) disabled was released. > > As I mentioned, I have never used kmail and do not know what this > "Kontact" you mention does. But doing a search in the TB Addos on the > word "kontact" produces SyncKolab. > > BC > > Kontact is a kind of Outlook - it merges KMail, KAdressbook, Akregator, Calendar and a few others (configurable). From blchupin at iinet.net.au Sun Mar 25 06:53:57 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:53:57 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> On 24/03/12 00:47, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned] >> I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component of >> Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. >> >> So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as >> mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think that it >> is slow? > Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and > that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply > the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't > respond.. I am not sure what you are saying here - "it doesn't respond". I get around 300 e-mail each day and as they are downloaded from my ISP the instantly go into the various folders specified by the message filter. They don't first go into a holding area from which they are then moved by the filter - as they arrive they are immediately sent to the appropriate folder. And the only thing which holds me up sometimes is when someone sends me a massive attachment to an e-mail (and I wish that they would stop doing this, but friends are friends...... :-) ). Or when my ISP is having a hassle and sends me the mail very slowly because of the glitch in 'his' sysem. > and it can take up to 3 minutes (usually ~1 minute, but can > be more).... kmail is faster doing this (and doesn't becomes > unresponsive). "unresponsive" again. What do you mean by this, please? >>> but due that kmail now have >>> this annoying issue that it just "disconnects" and doesn't get new >>> emails after a while (after 1~3 hours, unpredictable), and I have to >>> close it and re-open to get it going again, I guess I have no way out >>> but to go back to thunderbird (evolution is not in good shape right >>> now either). >>> >>>> "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" >>> well, thunderbird hurts too, only not on so important areas >> So it only hurts only on those unimportant points, right? :-) . >> >> Again, could you please mention what these points are where TB "hurts". > Slowness, that's the most important to me... I think that here I have to ask the question: how fast is your broadband connection? and which *version* of Thunderbird are you referring to? The other question is: are you comparing Thunderbird with your Kmail on the SAME computer or is one installed on one machine and the other on another, different computer? > Another is the fact that it does illogical things while dealing with > attachments, I hasn't really tested this with kmail yet (just forgot > to do it, but I will), because this problem was reported by a customer > who have very slow Internet links, and uses Windows, I verified this > on Linux TB too: > > 1. It will either: completely download all attachments, or download no > attachments at all (no "maximum download" that works, like k9 mail > (android)). > 2. If you can make it to *not* download the attachments initially, and > you open an attachment, it will download the attachment from the imap > server, but if you want to open the same attachment again later: it > will download it again!!!! (I don't want to save disk, I want to save > bandwidth)....no good. I have to admit that you have me kinda confused right here :-) . Are we talking here about some Windows rubbish or Thunderbird in Linux? Or are you talking here about Thunderbird in both Windows and Linux? There is a setting in TB which tells the ISP's server to either keep everything or delete it when it is downloaded. What is this set to in TB? Just out of interest, I was on dial-up for many years and it was during this time that I started using Thunderbird in its original 'form' called Netscape. Never in that time I had hassles with what you are describing. I suspect that your friend has some problems with the system installation and/or the ISP. (Just as an aside, I was with one "big player" of an ISP here in Australia and I had nothing but *trouble* with connections/disconnections - and this was on broadband! So I changed ISPs and now am enjoying myself (and have been for 4 years). >>> .... at >>> least it will get new emails. >> Well, it seems to me a very good reason then to use it, right? :-D > Right, that's why I'm going back to it for now. That's the spirit! :-) . Never give up :-) . BC -- Q. What did you do wrong if your wife keeps coming out of the kitchen to nag you? A. You made the chain too long. From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 18:55:21 2012 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:55:21 -0400 Subject: [11.10]-Default Web Browser=Firefox, But Email Opens Chrome??? Message-ID: <4F6F6A19.8040705@GMail.com> [11.10]-Default Web Browser=Firefox, But Email Opens Chrome??? Hi, Running kubuntu 11.10 64Bit. I use Mozilla Thunderbird v11 for email. When I click on a URL in Thunderbird, it opens in Google Chrome? I checked the default web browser in settings and it is set to Firefox. I posted about this in Mozilla Thunderbird forums and I was told its an Operating System problem as Thunderbird queries the OS for default web browser. The default web browser IS set to Firefox. How do I fix this problem? Thanks! Jesse From d.kardarakos at gmail.com Sun Mar 25 22:00:01 2012 From: d.kardarakos at gmail.com (Dimitris Kardarakos) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:00:01 +0300 Subject: [11.10]-Default Web Browser=Firefox, But Email Opens Chrome??? In-Reply-To: <4F6F6A19.8040705@GMail.com> References: <4F6F6A19.8040705@GMail.com> Message-ID: <4F6F9561.1030405@gmail.com> On 03/25/2012 09:55 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: > [11.10]-Default Web Browser=Firefox, But Email Opens Chrome??? > > Hi, > > Running kubuntu 11.10 64Bit. > > I use Mozilla Thunderbird v11 for email. > When I click on a URL in Thunderbird, it opens in Google Chrome? > I checked the default web browser in settings and it is set to Firefox. > > I posted about this in Mozilla Thunderbird forums > and I was told its an Operating System problem > as Thunderbird queries the OS for default web browser. > > The default web browser IS set to Firefox. > > How do I fix this problem? > Thanks! > > Jesse > Try to go to: Edit -> Preferences -> Tab: Attachment, and select on Content Type: http, Content Type: https, Action: Use firefox. -- Dimitris From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Mar 26 03:14:33 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:14:33 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6EBF1E.8040006@gmail.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C8CED.5050506@gmail.com> <4F6EB702.5010903@iinet.net.au> <4F6EBF1E.8040006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F6FDF19.7000401@iinet.net.au> On 25/03/12 17:45, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 25/03/12 08:11, Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned] >> >> As I mentioned, I have never used kmail and do not know what this >> "Kontact" you mention does. But doing a search in the TB Addos on the >> word "kontact" produces SyncKolab. >> >> BC >> >> > Kontact is a kind of Outlook - it merges KMail, KAdressbook, > Akregator, Calendar and a few others (configurable). Ah, OK. I am sure that I have come across something which does these things as an alternative to Kmail but cannot remember what that was, or when I read it. If I come across it in my "travels" I'll let you know. BC -- The more sand has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we should see through it. Niccolo Machiavelli From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 10:16:31 2012 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:16:31 +0200 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F7041FF.8020800@gmail.com> On 23/03/12 11:58, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 23/03/12 11:51, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:39, Myriam >> Schweingruber wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:27, O. Sinclair wrote: >>> ... >>>> >>>> well well, on forums.kde.org a developer claims that this was >>>> deliberately >>>> removed to "complete transfer to Akonadi" but is back in "trunk". >>>> But will >>>> not be back in main code until 4.9... >>> >>> Could you please provide a link to that forum thread? I can't find a >>> post stating it was deliberately removed so far. >> >> Nevermind, found it: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 >> >> /me wonders how they can ship that and then be astonished end-users >> complain... >> >> Regards, Myriam >> > You are not the only one Myriam... > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=215&t=100742 > > disabled - not removed. But effect for us users is the same > OK, today I downloaded Kubuntu 12.04 Beta with KDE 4.8.0 and installed in Virtualbox and I can confirm that autocompletion of email addresses from addresbooks do not work in that environment, "fresh out of the box new user". I was going to try Chakra too but it seems to have issues with Virtualbox. From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 12:56:09 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:26:09 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 24/03/12 00:47, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin >>  wrote: > > > [pruned] > > > >>> I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component of >>> Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. >>> >>> So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as >>> mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think that >>> it >>> is slow? >> >> Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and >> that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply >> the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't >> respond.. > > > I am not sure what you are saying here - "it doesn't respond". Just that: it doesn't respond... it is "stuck". I have 5 imap mail accounts configured there, and 500 emails to filter on one of these (~750 received) is enough to keep Thunderbird busy (as in: it will not let me type the password for the other account) for quite some time, until it finish filtering the mails (or just allows for *very slow* typing, showing two characters very 10 seconds or so). > > I get around 300 e-mail each day and as they are downloaded from my ISP the > instantly go into the various folders specified by the message filter. They > don't first go into a holding area from which they are then moved by the > filter - as they arrive they are immediately sent to the appropriate folder. good it work so great for you, for me: it is *really* slow, maybe because I configured it to download all messages locally, and I'm using 5 IMAP mail accounts. > > And the only thing which holds me up sometimes is when someone sends me a > massive attachment to an e-mail (and I wish that they would stop doing this, > but friends are friends...... :-) ). Or when my ISP is having a hassle and > sends me the mail very slowly because of the glitch in 'his' sysem. But thunderbird will respond under that circumstances, this happens mainly on the first startup in the morning (because it have to filter a lot of messages), after that: I don't even note it is there (but hey: I got a 4 core AMD A8, with 16GB RAM). > > > >>  and it can take up to 3 minutes (usually ~1 minute, but can >> be more).... kmail is faster doing this (and doesn't becomes >> unresponsive). > > > "unresponsive" again. What do you mean by this, please? That it won't respond to keypresses or mouse clicks (it is asking me for the password for the other account, and I type, and it doesn't show the characters after some time, ie: really slow, I consider it stuck). > > > >>>>  but due that kmail now have >>>> this annoying issue that it just "disconnects" and doesn't get new >>>> emails after a while (after 1~3 hours, unpredictable), and I have to >>>> close it and re-open to get it going again, I guess I have no way out >>>> but to go back to thunderbird (evolution is not in good shape right >>>> now either). >>>> >>>>> "Why keep doing it if it hurts?" >>>> >>>> well, thunderbird hurts too, only not on so important areas >>> >>> So it only hurts only on those unimportant points, right? :-) . >>> >>> Again, could you please mention what these points are where TB "hurts". >> >> Slowness, that's the most important to me... > > > > I think that here I have to ask the question: how fast is your broadband > connection? and which *version* of Thunderbird are you referring to? 10Mbps right now, it used to be 1Mbps, and TB 11.0. On both connections the response time is pretty much the same (looking at gkrellm's bw graph, I can clearly see that bandwidth is not an issue here). > > The other question is: are you comparing Thunderbird with your Kmail on the > SAME computer or is one installed on one machine and the other on another, > different computer? Of course I'm comparing on the same computer! do you think I'm a newbe or what? (just fyi, I have been around computing world for 23 years now. > > > >> Another is the fact that it does illogical things while dealing with >> attachments, I hasn't really tested this with kmail yet (just forgot >> to do it, but I will), because this problem was reported by a customer >> who have very slow Internet links, and uses Windows, I verified this >> on Linux TB too: >> >> 1. It will either: completely download all attachments, or download no >> attachments at all (no "maximum download" that works, like k9 mail >> (android)). >> 2. If you can make it to *not* download the attachments initially, and >> you open an attachment, it will download the attachment from the imap >> server, but if you want to open the same attachment again later: it >> will download it again!!!! (I don't want to save disk, I want to save >> bandwidth)....no good. Please, bear in mind this is not a problem for *me*, it was a problem for one of my customers, see, I just configure TB to fully download all messages, and I'm happy, after all: my Internet connection is fast enough, but they have some offices with 256kbps connections, and 10 people there, so, if they were to send a 2MB attachment to each of these 10 persons, they would download it 10 times!, so, I tried to make TB *not* download the full message (had to disable junk checks, and a lot of other things that I can't remember right now), and ok: it stopped download the attachment, but now then: it would download "on request", and never store it locally... which is not smart, in my opinion: if you already downloaded a static content (mail attachment), it should be stored on local cache: well, TB doesn't do that. > > > I have to admit that you have me kinda confused right here :-) . > > Are we talking here about some Windows rubbish or Thunderbird in Linux? Or > are you talking here about Thunderbird in both Windows and Linux? Thunderbird on BOTH Windows AND Linux. As a matter of fact, I had a thread on TB forums about it: no solution was possible.... it is amazing that a mobile mail app can have more logical than TB :( . > > There is a setting in TB which tells the ISP's server to either keep > everything or delete it when it is downloaded. What is this set to in TB? That's for pop, try imap. And, about pop: there was an option to just download headers, but then, I had to download the full message to read it (including attachments, and 70% of the time the person didn't need to open the attachment). > > Just out of interest, I was on dial-up for many years and it was during this > time that I started using Thunderbird in its original 'form' called > Netscape. Never in that time I had hassles with what you are describing. I > suspect that your friend has some problems with the system installation > and/or the ISP. (Just as an aside, I was with one "big player" of an ISP > here in Australia and I had nothing but *trouble* with > connections/disconnections - and this was on broadband! So I changed ISPs > and now am enjoying myself (and have been for 4 years). Yeah, my too: I also started using it as part of Netscape (Netscape Communicator suite, iirc), a loong time ago. > > > > >>>> .... at >>>> least it will get new emails. >>> >>> Well, it seems to me a very good reason then to use it, right? :-D >> >> Right, that's why I'm going back to it for now. > > > That's the spirit! :-) . Never give up :-) . > > > BC > Ildefonso. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Mar 26 13:54:29 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:54:29 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F707515.9020307@iinet.net.au> On 26/03/12 23:56, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 24/03/12 00:47, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin >>> wrote: >> >> [pruned] >> >> >> >>>> I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component of >>>> Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. >>>> >>>> So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as >>>> mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think that >>>> it >>>> is slow? >>> Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and >>> that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply >>> the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't >>> respond.. >> >> I am not sure what you are saying here - "it doesn't respond". > Just that: it doesn't respond... it is "stuck". I have 5 imap mail > accounts configured there, and 500 emails to filter on one of these > (~750 received) is enough to keep Thunderbird busy (as in: it will not > let me type the password for the other account) for quite some time, > until it finish filtering the mails (or just allows for *very slow* > typing, showing two characters very 10 seconds or so). Hi, I am going to respond very quickly as I am about to fall out of my chair and fall asleep :-) . But why would you need to type in your password for each account? TB stores the password for each account and doesn't require you to type in it each time. The other thing - and here I have cut out a lot of what you wrote - is: have you looked in TB at- Edit>Preferences>Attachments and in the Advice column you, by clicking on the little pointing down triangle, select to Delete attachments of particular types -eg, pdf, or jpeg and so on? Off to bed, sorry for the "quickie" reply :-) . BC -- The more sand has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we should see through it. Niccolo Machiavelli From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 14:07:41 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 09:37:41 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F707515.9020307@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> <4F707515.9020307@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 26/03/12 23:56, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Basil Chupin >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 24/03/12 00:47, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin >>>>  wrote: >>> >>> >>> [pruned] >>> >>> >>> >>>>> I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component >>>>> of >>>>> Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. >>>>> >>>>> So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as >>>>> mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think >>>>> that >>>>> it >>>>> is slow? >>>> >>>> Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and >>>> that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply >>>> the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't >>>> respond.. >>> >>> >>> I am not sure what you are saying here - "it doesn't respond". >> >> Just that: it doesn't respond... it is "stuck".  I have 5 imap mail >> accounts configured there, and 500 emails to filter on one of these >> (~750 received) is enough to keep Thunderbird busy (as in: it will not >> let me type the password for the other account) for quite some time, >> until it finish filtering the mails (or just allows for *very slow* >> typing, showing two characters very 10 seconds or so). > > > Hi, > > I am going to respond very quickly as I am about to fall out of my chair and > fall asleep :-) . > > But why would you need to type in your password for each account? TB stores > the password for each account and doesn't require you to type in it each > time. two reasons: 1. Keep passwords fresh in my mind (for webmail access, or other things). 2. Because I just don't like storing passwords, I feel safer without storing it. > > The other thing - and here I have cut out a lot of what you wrote - is: have > you looked in TB at- > > Edit>Preferences>Attachments > > and in the Advice column you, by clicking on the little pointing down > triangle, select to Delete attachments of particular types -eg, pdf, or jpeg > and so on? Because I don't want to delete the attachments! my customer (not me) just want the attachment to be downloaded when you need it, and after being downloaded for the first time, it should be stored on the local message (ie: download the attachment is needed, but only the first time). > > Off to bed, sorry for the "quickie" reply :-) . > > > BC > > -- > The more sand has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we > should see through it. >             Niccolo Machiavelli > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From blchupin at iinet.net.au Mon Mar 26 23:46:01 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:46:01 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> <4F707515.9020307@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F70FFB9.7020903@iinet.net.au> On 27/03/12 01:07, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: >> On 26/03/12 23:56, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Basil Chupin >>> wrote: >>>> On 24/03/12 00:47, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> [pruned] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component >>>>>> of >>>>>> Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as >>>>>> mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think >>>>>> that >>>>>> it >>>>>> is slow? >>>>> Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and >>>>> that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply >>>>> the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't >>>>> respond.. >>>> >>>> I am not sure what you are saying here - "it doesn't respond". >>> Just that: it doesn't respond... it is "stuck". I have 5 imap mail >>> accounts configured there, and 500 emails to filter on one of these >>> (~750 received) is enough to keep Thunderbird busy (as in: it will not >>> let me type the password for the other account) for quite some time, >>> until it finish filtering the mails (or just allows for *very slow* >>> typing, showing two characters very 10 seconds or so). >> >> Hi, >> >> I am going to respond very quickly as I am about to fall out of my chair and >> fall asleep :-) . >> >> But why would you need to type in your password for each account? TB stores >> the password for each account and doesn't require you to type in it each >> time. > two reasons: > > 1. Keep passwords fresh in my mind (for webmail access, or other things). > 2. Because I just don't like storing passwords, I feel safer without storing it. But you can use a Master Password to be able to see what the passwords are so only you can look at them if you need to, say, alter any password. > The other thing - and here I have cut out a lot of what you wrote - is: have > you looked in TB at- > > Edit>Preferences>Attachments > > and in the Advice column you, by clicking on the little pointing down > triangle, select to Delete attachments of particular types -eg, pdf, or jpeg > and so on? > Because I don't want to delete the attachments! my customer (not me) > just want the attachment to be downloaded when you need it, and after > being downloaded for the first time, it should be stored on the local > message (ie: download the attachment is needed, but only the first > time). OK, then set - which I didn't have the time to mention last night - the Advice to ASK in which case you can either accept or reject the Attachment. BC -- The more sand has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we should see through it. Niccolo Machiavelli From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 00:58:18 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:28:18 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F70FFB9.7020903@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> <4F707515.9020307@iinet.net.au> <4F70FFB9.7020903@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 27/03/12 01:07, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Basil Chupin >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 26/03/12 23:56, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Basil Chupin >>>>  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 24/03/12 00:47, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Basil Chupin >>>>>>  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [pruned] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I have been using Thunderbird since it was first known as a component >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Netscape. I have never found it to be slow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I am wondering why you consider it to be "slow" - a term which, as >>>>>>> mentioned here, appears to be a relative term :-) . Why do you think >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> is slow? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, I have a mail filter configured, and I get ~500 mails a day and >>>>>> that filter have to parse them, while Thunderbird get the mails, apply >>>>>> the filter, and move the messages to another folder, it doesn't >>>>>> respond.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure what you are saying here - "it doesn't respond". >>>> >>>> Just that: it doesn't respond... it is "stuck".  I have 5 imap mail >>>> accounts configured there, and 500 emails to filter on one of these >>>> (~750 received) is enough to keep Thunderbird busy (as in: it will not >>>> let me type the password for the other account) for quite some time, >>>> until it finish filtering the mails (or just allows for *very slow* >>>> typing, showing two characters very 10 seconds or so). >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am going to respond very quickly as I am about to fall out of my chair >>> and >>> fall asleep :-) . >>> >>> But why would you need to type in your password for each account? TB >>> stores >>> the password for each account and doesn't require you to type in it each >>> time. >> >> two reasons: >> >> 1. Keep passwords fresh in my mind (for webmail access, or other things). >> 2. Because I just don't like storing passwords, I feel safer without >> storing it. > > > But you can use a Master Password to be able to see what the passwords are > so only you can look at them if you need to, say, alter any password. still, I would lose "password freshness" in my memory. Sometimes I'm somewhere, I need to access webmail asap: no access to my machine, and thus no access to password store. > > > > >> The other thing - and here I have cut out a lot of what you wrote - is: >> have >> you looked in TB at- >> >> Edit>Preferences>Attachments >> >> and in the Advice column you, by clicking on the little pointing down >> triangle, select to Delete attachments of particular types -eg, pdf, or >> jpeg >> and so on? >> Because I don't want to delete the attachments! my customer (not me) >> just want the attachment to be downloaded when you need it, and after >> being downloaded for the first time, it should be stored on the local >> message (ie: download the attachment is needed, but only the first >> time). > > > OK, then set - which I didn't have the time to mention last night - the > Advice to ASK in which case you can either accept or reject the Attachment. I would have to read more about it, but I believe it is not exactly what I need. I'll give it a try later. I can't even see how to add anything to that list anyway right now. Ildefonso. From chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk Tue Mar 27 01:39:30 2012 From: chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk (Chris Luck) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:39:30 +0100 Subject: Stop kmix autostarting In-Reply-To: <1753059.fpRmDt8g7O@lindsay-kubuntu-12> References: <1753059.fpRmDt8g7O@lindsay-kubuntu-12> Message-ID: On 24/03/12 23:12, Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Using kubuntu 12.04 and have veromix installed - very nice. However > I no longer need kmix but can't figure out how to stop it starting > on every login? its not in the autostart list. This is something I had been wanting to do in 10.10. I finally found this - http://linux.wxs.ro/2011/05/02/kde-disable-kmix-tray-icon/ In 10.10 this translates to: ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc I added AutoStart=false to the [Global] section, kmix no longer appears in System Monitor. -- Regards, Chris Luck From blchupin at iinet.net.au Tue Mar 27 03:30:10 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:30:10 +1100 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> <4F707515.9020307@iinet.net.au> <4F70FFB9.7020903@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <4F713442.60700@iinet.net.au> On 27/03/12 11:58, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: [pruned] >> But you can use a Master Password to be able to see what the passwords are >> so only you can look at them if you need to, say, alter any password. > still, I would lose "password freshness" in my memory. Sometimes I'm > somewhere, I need to access webmail asap: no access to my machine, and > thus no access to password store. You are just being very difficult to please, aren't you? :-D . Create a line containing all your passwords written as a single string of charcters and put this in your wallet or whatever. Now,YOU know what the passwords are for each account (you already remember them to use them everyday anyway) so you can look at this long list which to any normal person looks a scramble of characters and you will be able to recognise the password you are to use for a particular account. And if you are about to be mugged in the street then you can chew and swallow the list :-) . >> OK, then set - which I didn't have the time to mention last night - the >> Advice to ASK in which case you can either accept or reject the Attachment. > I would have to read more about it, but I believe it is not exactly > what I need. I'll give it a try later. I can't even see how to add > anything to that list anyway right now. There is a way and I have seen it and read about it - but for the life of me cannot remember where this was or what it said. I'll remember it I am sure. I haven't done a web search on it and I am sure that there is were I found the solution (in some "blog" about tweaks to Thunderbird). BC -- The more sand has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we should see through it. Niccolo Machiavelli From info at alvin.be Tue Mar 27 11:31:01 2012 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:31:01 +0200 Subject: akonadi interaction with kontact? In-Reply-To: <201203211110.48605.felixrubiodalmau@gmail.com> References: <201203211110.48605.felixrubiodalmau@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F71A4F5.9000205@alvin.be> On 21/03/2012 11:10, Felix Rubio Dalmau wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have realised today that, although in kontact/Calendar (version > 4.4.11) I have a calendar called Professional under section "akonadi > calendar", this calendar is marked as a "no KDE calendar plugin > configured yet" in akonadi resource configuration. The behavior is > strange, because kontact/Calendar is working properly (and I think that > using akonadi), so I do not understand what's happening, if it is > happening anything wrong, and how to solve it if that's the case. > > Do any of you have any idea on what could/should I do? Are you using an older version of Kubuntu? Version 4.4.11 only uses Akonadi for KAddressBook and not for the calendar. I think you can safely remove the Akonadi resource. (Don't take my word for it! Make a backup first!) From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 21:23:08 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:53:08 -0430 Subject: KDE 4.8.1 showstopper - for me at least In-Reply-To: <4F713442.60700@iinet.net.au> References: <4f61b219.cf5e0e0a.1bc4.21a0@mx.google.com> <4F61B7A2.5020806@gmail.com> <4F6C41E5.8000305@gmail.com> <4F6C494A.6060809@gmail.com> <4F6C5089.9030603@iinet.net.au> <4F6C7B23.1040801@iinet.net.au> <4F6EC105.3030202@iinet.net.au> <4F707515.9020307@iinet.net.au> <4F70FFB9.7020903@iinet.net.au> <4F713442.60700@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: > On 27/03/12 11:58, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Basil Chupin >>  wrote: > > [pruned] > > > > >>> But you can use a Master Password to be able to see what the passwords >>> are >>> so only you can look at them if you need to, say, alter any password. >> >> still, I would lose "password freshness" in my memory.  Sometimes I'm >> somewhere, I need to access webmail asap: no access to my machine, and >> thus no access to password store. > > > > You are just being very difficult to please, aren't you? :-D . > > Create a line containing all your passwords written as a single string of > charcters and put this in your wallet or whatever. Now,YOU know what the > passwords are for each account (you already remember them to use them > everyday anyway) so you can look at this long list which to any normal > person looks a scramble of characters and you will be able to recognise the > password you are to use for a particular account. And if you are about to be > mugged in the street then you can chew and swallow the list :-) . Nah, I prefer to use my memory, it is a good exercise too :P . Just accept it, some people just like to type in our password at least once a day. > > > > >>> OK, then set - which I didn't have the time to mention last night - the >>> Advice to ASK in which case you can either accept or reject the >>> Attachment. >> >> I would have to read more about it, but I believe it is not exactly >> what I need.  I'll give it a try later.  I can't even see how to add >> anything to that list anyway right now. > > > There is a way and I have seen it and read about it - but for the life of me > cannot remember where this was or what it said. I'll remember it I am sure. > I haven't done a web search on it and I am sure that there is were I found > the solution (in some "blog" about tweaks to Thunderbird). oh, don't break your head on it: I have been there, I read through docs, and even made a discussion on thunderbird forums, I got very close, but it insisted to re-download the attachment every time I opened it.... I'll retry in a few days (when workload goes down). Also, I have to make the same tests with KMail. > > > BC > > -- > The more sand has escaped from the hourglass of our life, the clearer we > should see through it. >                        Niccolo Machiavelli From basroufs at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 21:03:49 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:03:49 +0200 Subject: Kmail2/ Kontact - KDE 4.7.2.: Difficulties to sync with Google and to send e-mail (SMTP). In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Everybody At a fresh install of Kubuntu 11.10 at a netbook, I am trying to get started with Kontact - along with KMail2, KDE 4.7.2., akonadi-googledata and GMAIL. In spite of my good experience with a few previous versions of Kontact, KDE and Kubuntu, I do have a few major difficulties with respect to e-mail and calendar in the new configuration summarised here. With respect to e-mail, I can summarise my difficulties as follows: - I do not manage to send e-mail, although I configure the SMTP settings of KMAIL according to the instructions at google.com - http://bit.ly/HfeDnV - via TOOLS > configure KMAIL > accounts > sending. - when trying to sync my "disconnected" IMAP e-mail folders, I only do get a the messages of probably the last 48 to 72 hours - when the synchronisation gets stuck, I get the following message: *unknown error. (unable to fetch item from backend).* On the other hand, each e-mail which has been labelled into a specific folder does appear into the equivalent "disconnected" IMAP folder. So, the synchronisation problem has to do with older messages without any label. At the internet, I have found reports about similar problems, especially when giving in the search string "unknown error. (unable to fetch item from backend) Kubuntu". However, I did not yet manage to find instructions actually solving my problems. With respect to the calendar, I have imported a backup from my backup of my previous configuration into: - the standard "personal calendar" - together with the tasks; - GMAIL calendar - however without the tasks. So far, I do not manage to synchronise the personal calendar with the one at Google- not via akonadi-resource, also not via "DAV groupware resource", as worked out in this page: http://userbase.kde.org/Working_with_Google_Calendar However it may be, I would like to integrate the local "personal" calendar I have now with the one at Google. Also the tasks I want to integrate and include in this synchronisation effort. Any ideas, thoughts? Thanks! Respectfully yours, Bas Roufs. -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Open source OS: Kubuntu 11.10. Websites in construction: - BasRoufs.eu - Viaconsensus.nl - RainbowGathering.eu -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Open source OS: Kubuntu 11.10. Websites in construction: - BasRoufs.eu - Viaconsensus.nl - RainbowGathering.eu -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Open source OS: Kubuntu 11.10. Websites in construction: - BasRoufs.eu - Viaconsensus.nl - RainbowGathering.eu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From it at sca-uk.com Thu Mar 29 18:09:28 2012 From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:09:28 -0300 Subject: Gigabyte motherboard does not detect my Network Adaptor Message-ID: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001> Hi Guys, I've just bought a Gigabyte H61M-DS2 motherboard, installed Kubuntu 10.04.3 LTS from a pen-drive and now Kubuntu can't see my cable LAN connection. 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There might be a proprietary driver for it (try the Restricted Drivers Manager). If not then it might be better supported in a newer Kernel - e.g. with 11.10 If that doesn't work then Googling will turn up a number of threads - you may need to download and install the driver manually. Mark On 29 Mar 2012, at 19:09, Steve Cookson wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I've just bought a Gigabyte H61M-DS2 motherboard, installed Kubuntu 10.04.3 LTS from a pen-drive and now Kubuntu can't see my cable LAN connection. > > Any ideas? > > Regards > > Steve. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From theuteck at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 19:07:15 2012 From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:07:15 -0500 Subject: Gigabyte motherboard does not detect my Network Adaptor In-Reply-To: <7D91F82F-A711-4E23-A098-E033D3EC6726@gmail.com> References: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001> <7D91F82F-A711-4E23-A098-E033D3EC6726@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3081476.MUT4Xi0Poo@allmine> You can enable the kernel backports and get a new kernel without upgrading the whole system. That might get the driver for you, but how you download that without a working nic is another problem. On Thursday, March 29, 2012 07:53:45 PM Mark Greenwood wrote: Does it work if you boot into the live image from the pen drive? If not, then 10.04 might not support the network adapter on that board - it's an Atheros GbE LAN chip, and Atheros chips are known to be difficult under Linux. Also that's quite a new chipset and 10.04 is quite old. There might be a proprietary driver for it (try the Restricted Drivers Manager). If not then it might be better supported in a newer Kernel - e.g. with 11.10 If that doesn't work then Googling will turn up a number of threads - you may need to download and install the driver manually. Mark On 29 Mar 2012, at 19:09, Steve Cookson wrote: Hi Guys, I've just bought a Gigabyte H61M-DS2 motherboard, installed Kubuntu 10.04.3 LTS from a pen-drive and now Kubuntu can't see my cable LAN connection. Any ideas? Regards Steve. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From it at sca-uk.com Thu Mar 29 22:31:37 2012 From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:31:37 -0300 Subject: Gigabyte motherboard does not detect my Network Adaptor In-Reply-To: <3081476.MUT4Xi0Poo@allmine> References: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001><7D91F82F-A711-4E23-A098-E033D3EC6726@gmail.com> <3081476.MUT4Xi0Poo@allmine> Message-ID: <0F553A4474814A25AAB929CA1A7D386F@SACWS001> Hi Guys, Thanks for your prompt replies. > Does it work if you boot into the live image from the pen drive? No, it doesn't. > If not then it might be better supported in a newer Kernel - e.g. with 11.10 So I'm preparing an 11.10 image as we speak. I'm going to have to bite the bullet sometime, I just hoped it wasn't yet. > You can enable the kernel backports and get a new kernel without upgrading > the whole system. That might get the driver for you, but how you download > that without a working nic is another problem. It's true, but I don't even know how to enable the kernel backports. How does that happen? Maybe I could have some sort of other network connection, like Bluetooth or something. Maybe I could separately download the driver on another machine transfer with a pen-drive and compile on the new machine. It sounds like a lot of work. Have a good evening, if it's evening in your part of the world. Regards Steve From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Mar 30 00:52:26 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:52:26 +1100 Subject: Gigabyte motherboard does not detect my Network Adaptor In-Reply-To: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001> References: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001> Message-ID: <4F7503CA.90600@iinet.net.au> On 30/03/12 05:09, Steve Cookson wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > I've just bought a Gigabyte H61M-DS2 motherboard, installed Kubuntu > 10.04.3 LTS from a pen-drive and now Kubuntu can't see my cable LAN > connection. > > Any ideas? > > Regards > > Steve. > A simple question: have you checked the BIOS to make sure that it is enabled? BC -- Why isn't there mouse-flavoured cat food? From it at sca-uk.com Fri Mar 30 10:44:01 2012 From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:44:01 -0300 Subject: Gigabyte motherboard does not detect my Network Adaptor In-Reply-To: <201203300844.39639.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> References: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001> <3081476.MUT4Xi0Poo@allmine> <0F553A4474814A25AAB929CA1A7D386F@SACWS001> <201203300844.39639.gcsgcatling@bigpond.com> Message-ID: Forgot to copy list! > How about putting a PCI network card!!!! Well, good idea, I'll have a look and see if I have one. However, 11.10 has done the trick. It all seems to be working happily now. I just dread having to upgrade and debug all the packages that I use. It might indeed be quicker to find an old card (ie one with drivers) and use that. I'll have a look. Regards Steve From it at sca-uk.com Fri Mar 30 10:45:46 2012 From: it at sca-uk.com (Steve Cookson) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:45:46 -0300 Subject: Gigabyte motherboard does not detect my Network Adaptor In-Reply-To: <4F7503CA.90600@iinet.net.au> References: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001> <4F7503CA.90600@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <8E803AD58AC74AB3A86D44F13039E14F@SACWS001> > Why isn't there mouse-flavoured cat food? Now this is an important question and one that does not get enough attention from animal rights activists or the media! Regards Steve. From blchupin at iinet.net.au Fri Mar 30 11:44:29 2012 From: blchupin at iinet.net.au (Basil Chupin) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:44:29 +1100 Subject: Gigabyte motherboard does not detect my Network Adaptor In-Reply-To: <8E803AD58AC74AB3A86D44F13039E14F@SACWS001> References: <4A58681AD5284AE9BE3F39DF9D8EC67C@SACWS001> <4F7503CA.90600@iinet.net.au> <8E803AD58AC74AB3A86D44F13039E14F@SACWS001> Message-ID: <4F759C9D.5080704@iinet.net.au> On 30/03/12 21:45, Steve Cookson wrote: >> Why isn't there mouse-flavoured cat food? > Now this is an important question and one that does not get > enough attention from animal rights activists or the media! > > Regards > > Steve. I *knew* that someone would understand! Well done! :-) BC -- Why isn't there mouse-flavoured cat food? From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 14:08:29 2012 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:38:29 +0530 Subject: Gimp problem Message-ID: Gimp does not start in Kubuntu 11.04 gdb below: ___________________________________________ Starting program: /usr/bin/gimp gimp [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] (gimp:6362): GLib-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007ffff6a15d1c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 _________________________________________ Thanks and Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 14:51:41 2012 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:21:41 -0430 Subject: Gimp problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, A. Mani wrote: > Gimp does not start in Kubuntu 11.04 > gdb below: > ___________________________________________ > Starting program: /usr/bin/gimp gimp > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] > > (gimp:6362): GLib-WARNING **: > /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, > optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x00007ffff6a15d1c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 odd, it works for me. Kubuntu 11.04, amd64. do you have a backtrace? > _________________________________________ > > > > > Thanks and Best > > A. Mani > > > > -- > A. Mani > CU, ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS > http://www.logicamani.co.cc > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 15:12:00 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:12:00 +0200 Subject: Gimp problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/3/30 A. Mani > Gimp does not start in Kubuntu 11.04 > I would suggest the following: 1. purge-uninstall GIMP and related packages - via some package manager 2. restart the PC; 3. than, install again GIMP and dependencies; 4. restart your computer 5. try to start GIMP in the normal way or via ALT-F2. In case you follow these suggestions, let know whether they help. Respectfully yours, Bas.. -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. 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Is it going the way of Quanta+? -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From jonorland at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 15:46:01 2012 From: jonorland at gmail.com (Jonas Norlander) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:46:01 +0200 Subject: Gimp problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2012/3/30 Bas Roufs : > > > 2012/3/30 A. Mani > >> Gimp does not start in Kubuntu 11.04 > > > I would suggest the following: > > purge-uninstall GIMP and related packages - via some package manager > restart the PC; > than, install again GIMP and dependencies; > restart your computer > try to start GIMP in the normal way or via ALT-F2. > With all respect this sound much like how one do it in Windows. The first thing I would try is make a backup of your ~/.gimp-2.6 folder delete the original and start gimp from a shell to see it's output. It may give some clues why it SIGSEV. If that don't work I would purge all gimp related packages and GTK+ and reinstall them. Good luck! / Jonas Norlander From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 15:50:38 2012 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:50:38 -0400 Subject: OT- Bluefish Editor In-Reply-To: <4F75CF30.8070004@swbell.net> References: <4F75CF30.8070004@swbell.net> Message-ID: Hi there. It might have went away recently due to the rising popularity of BlueGriffon, which is built directly on the Mozilla rendering engine. http://www.bluegriffon.org/ It's actively developed and funded by available-for-purchase add-ons. Might be worth checking out. - James On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Anyone know anything about Bluefish? > > The main web site is down and their e-mail list is not working any longer. > Is it going the way of Quanta+? > > -- > “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the > people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest > it come to dominate our lives and interests”. > > - Patrick Henry - > > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- James Cain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Fri Mar 30 16:22:44 2012 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:22:44 +0200 Subject: Gimp problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201203301822.44413.kassube@gmx.net> Jonas Norlander wrote: > The first thing I would try is make a backup of your ~/.gimp-2.6 > folder delete the original and start gimp from a shell to see it's > output. > It may give some clues why it SIGSEV. If that don't work I would > purge all gimp related packages and GTK+ and reinstall them. I suppose that won't help either. I have a Kubuntu 11.04 32 bit virtual machine. There was nothing gimp related on that machine. After installation of Gimp I got the same error the OP reported initially. Out of curiosity I tried the same with a Kubuntu 11.04 LiveCD and there was no segfault. I would suggest that the OP should file a bug report at launchpad. That is probably the best way to get a solution because it is unlikely that the relevant developers are reading this list. Nils From clay at claydoh.com Fri Mar 30 17:52:54 2012 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:52:54 -0400 Subject: Gimp problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3109152.XKF5VZ08V3@lark-latitude-d630> On Friday, March 30, 2012 07:38:29 PM A. Mani wrote: > Gimp does not start in Kubuntu 11.04 > gdb below: > ___________________________________________ > Starting program: /usr/bin/gimp gimp > [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] > > (gimp:6362): GLib-WARNING **: > /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, > optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x00007ffff6a15d1c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > _________________________________________ > > > > > Thanks and Best > > A. Mani Known issue with Gimp in Natty, since fixed in Oneiric http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?53181-GIMP-won-t-start The workaround is to temporarily switch your GTK+ theme to a different one, start Gimp (which will open successfully) , exit, switch theme back. -- Clay Weber http://kubuntu.org http://kubuntuforums.net http://ubuntumaine.org From basroufs at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 18:02:39 2012 From: basroufs at gmail.com (Bas Roufs) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:02:39 +0200 Subject: Gimp problem In-Reply-To: <3109152.XKF5VZ08V3@lark-latitude-d630> References: <3109152.XKF5VZ08V3@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: > > Known issue with Gimp in Natty, since fixed in Oneiric > http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?53181-GIMP-won-t-start > > The workaround is to temporarily switch your GTK+ theme to a different one, > start Gimp (which will open successfully) , exit, switch theme back. > I can confirm this. After reading this input, a similar GIMP problem I have had springs to my mind about one year ago - I managed to solve it along the lines of the solution summarised at the bottom of the "Gimp won't start..." page indicated above. Respectfully yours, Bas. -- ==================== Bas G. Roufs MA Van 't Hoffstraat 1 NL-3514 VT Utrecht The Netherlands E. BasRoufs at gmail.com Mob. +31 6 446 835 10 Tel. +31 30 785 40 Open source OS: Kubuntu 11.10. Websites in construction: - BasRoufs.eu - Viaconsensus.nl - RainbowGathering.eu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rev.olson at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 19:33:51 2012 From: rev.olson at gmail.com (Pastor JW) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:33:51 -0700 Subject: RTL8188ce Message-ID: <201203301233.51736.rev.olson@gmail.com> Has anyone here ever been able to get a driver working for the RTL8188ce wireless controller? I've tried everything I could find on it for the past two days. This is on a Kubuntu 10.04 install. Thanks for any help! -- 73 de N7PSV aka Pastor JW < PDGA# 35276 http://the-inner-circle.org http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_original_inner_circle http://h.webring.com/hub?ring=universalministr From nigel at prayingforisrael.net Fri Mar 30 21:18:47 2012 From: nigel at prayingforisrael.net (Nigel Ridley) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:18:47 +0300 Subject: OT- Bluefish Editor In-Reply-To: <4F75CF30.8070004@swbell.net> References: <4F75CF30.8070004@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4F762337.9020502@prayingforisrael.net> On 03/30/2012 06:20 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Anyone know anything about Bluefish? > > The main web site is down and their e-mail list is not working any longer. Is it going the way of > Quanta+? > Don't know anything about Bluefish but was an avid user of Quanta+ -- I ended up using Kate - very pleased with it. Nigel From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 00:40:46 2012 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (A. Mani) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:10:46 +0530 Subject: Gimp problem In-Reply-To: <3109152.XKF5VZ08V3@lark-latitude-d630> References: <3109152.XKF5VZ08V3@lark-latitude-d630> Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Friday, March 30, 2012 07:38:29 PM A. Mani wrote: > > Known issue with Gimp in Natty, since fixed in Oneiric > http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?53181-GIMP-won-t-start > > The workaround is to temporarily switch your GTK+ theme to a different one, > start Gimp (which will open successfully) , exit, switch theme back. > Yes that works. Purge +reinstall did not work earlier. Thanks and Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC,  AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Sat Mar 31 06:58:17 2012 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (Guus) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:58:17 +0200 Subject: OT- Bluefish Editor In-Reply-To: <4F75CF30.8070004@swbell.net> References: <4F75CF30.8070004@swbell.net> Message-ID: <4F76AB09.9060600@xs4all.nl> On 30/03/12 17:20, Billie Walsh wrote: > Anyone know anything about Bluefish? > > The main web site is down and their e-mail list is not working any > longer. Is it going the way of Quanta+? > I sincerely hope not: I really like bluefish. If it is true, hopefully someone will take it over. Guus Bonnema.