5 years of support..!!??

Tue Mar 6 10:52:51 UTC 2012

Just need to add my 2 cents. I'm currently running 11.10 on 10 machines
(also undocumented).  My wife's, her three kids (ages 17, 13, 7) my moms
(about 65) my dad in-law (74 I think) my kid (14)  my bro (44) my niece (23
and using it in college) etc. I'm running 12.04 dev on mine as my primary
(I know I know lol) and they are all running great and they're all very
happy with it. I love the icons only task manager in 12.04. And everyone
else I have smooth-tasks installed. My dad in-law (in his 70's) installed
and admins his own Kubuntu system.  These aren't the 10.04 that you are
complaining about but it shows I think that each release improves tenfold
over the other at least since kde4.x was started. Perhaps an upgrade is a
good call for you. 12.04 will be released soon and I highly recommend it to
everyone.
On Mar 5, 2012 11:00 PM, "Bruce Bales" <bbales at cox.net> wrote:

> On 03/05/2012 03:02 PM, rterry at pacific.net.au wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 06 March 2012 02:36:31 Bruce Bales wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/05/2012 05:07 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 5, 2012 2:33 AM, "James Cain"<james.cain.25 at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:james.cain.25 at gmail.**com <james.cain.25 at gmail.com>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Leslie Anne Chatterton
>>>>>     <lahc2007 at gmail.com<mailto:lah**c2007 at gmail.com<lahc2007 at gmail.com>>>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Hi Bruce,
>>>>>
>>>>>         Well I guess Kubuntu isn't for everyone and we need to hear
>>>>>         experiences like yours to bring us back to reality. I think
>>>>>         there are
>>>>>         probably lots of Windows and Mac users who have had similarly
>>>>>         frustrating experiences but don't want to speak up and appear
>>>>>         like
>>>>>         dummies. Linux will become mainstream only when it offers a
>>>>>         "foolproof" edition that is unbreakable, as well as the
>>>>>         tinkerer's
>>>>>         versions that most of us now enjoy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Good point in pointing out that we need brought back to reality
>>>>>     now and again :)
>>>>>     However, 3 key points here that we free software users
>>>>>     occasionally need reminded of:
>>>>>
>>>>>         * Kubuntu is developed (99%) by volunteers. For those who
>>>>>           rant and rave about how nothing works, if you can't donate
>>>>>           to the KDE e.V., help the community, or at least report
>>>>>           bugs (if not triage them), what gives you the right to
>>>>>           complain at all?
>>>>>
>>>> A few years ago there was lots of talk about "Linux on the desktop,"
>>> where the intention
>>> was that everyone could use the open source Linux and be free from
>>> Microsoft.  I write a
>>> newsletter that goes to 165 former High School classmates.  All use
>>> Windows or Macs
>>> and I am certain that none could install and configure and be satisfied
>>> using Kubuntu 10-4.
>>> If it is unusable, should we complain?
>>> bruce
>>>
>> That's almost enough to start a flame war!
>>
>> Kubuntu 10-4 is very very stable.
>>
>> I've had a number of my windows friends install this on their machines and
>> were blown away by how easy it was to install, how quick the install was
>> compared to Windows.
>>
>> Yes, like any new operating system one has to learn a slightly different
>> way of
>> getting around, but the same applies to Macs for windows users.
>>
>> None of your 165 high school mates would need linux to read a newsletter
>> you
>> wrote on a linux machine!
>>
>> A number of my windows based friends - tired of the perpetual problem with
>> malware and virus's are now running Kubuntu side by side on a separate
>> box on
>> their desktop doing the comparison.
>>
>> I suspect there are a huge number of 'silent' linux users out there like
>> myself, who have never registered with the wider community that they run
>> linux
>> - as mentioned in a previous post  I have (let me do an accurate mental
>> count)
>> 10 machines here at work including 2 servers and 1 laptop and 1 server at
>> home
>> running linux - all uncounted in the grand stats).
>>
>> I'd be keen for you to list all the unsuable features of a linux desktop.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Richard
>>
> Sorry, Richard.  I guess I wasn't clear about my own computing.  I use
> Linux
> and have for over ten years and my only use of Windows was once at my
> son's house I used the browser for a bit.  My 165 classmates have no
> problems
> with my emails.  You don't have to sell me on Linux.
>
> My problem is that Kubuntu 10.04 is very difficult to use compared to
> Kubuntu
> 8.04.  And was harder to install.  In fact I had to procure another
> computer
> because neither 9.04 nor 9.10 nor 10.04 would install on my Dell Dimension
> 2400.  And the live CD would not run.
> I don't like it that my email client (kmail) is unusable and Thunderbird
> only
> a little better.  Is it possible that Thunderbird really doesn't have a
> word-wrap
> function?  With kmail you could set it for the width you wanted.
>
> I don't like it that the names of the programs in the tray at the bottom of
> my screen don't show the name of the program, but show file name, which
> changes when I look at another file; (I want to see "Firefox" and not
> "Snopes.com".  I don't like the program names in the tray to be transparent
> making them harder to read.  When the mouse passes over one of these
> names in the tray a small worthless panel jumps up, covering all
> underneath.
> When I have been writing an email and click on the Thunderbird icon at the
> bottom,
> a double panel pops up showing the inbox and the drafts box.  When I
> select one of these the double panel is no longer needed, but it stays up,
> blocking
> whatever is behind it.
>
> I made a panel on the left side to keep the icons representing my most used
> programs.  The panel is fixed width, the icons can't be changed (with 8.04
> I
> could make my own icon -- something I could recognize).The icons can't be
> rearranged.
> With 8.04, the tray was a double-decker, so there was room for more
> programs
> there.  Am I the only one who has eight programs open at once?
>
> I haven't had much time to try gimp -- just enough to find that It doesn't
> work
> like it did.  More relearning to do.
>
> bruce
>
>
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