From errol at tzora.co.il Sun Dec 1 04:51:36 2013 From: errol at tzora.co.il (Errol Sapir) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 06:51:36 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 13.10 no internet In-Reply-To: References: <52988074.9090701@gmail.com> <173223318.50oim8sPKf@saucy> <52999305.6000002@cfl.rr.com> Message-ID: <529AC058.4060602@tzora.co.il> I had the same problem when I installed 13.10 from scratch. As I couldn't get to the Internet to install drivers, I tried manually setting up my network. Nothing worked until I uninstalled network manager (sudo apt-get remove network-manager-kde network-manager) and then used wrote the commands for the network into /etc/network/interfaces using sudo, of course. In the previous versions of Linux when one manually set up a network one setup the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf. I don't know when the change came about but now one writes all the commands into /etc/network/interfaces. My system has a static network setup and looks like this: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 10.0.0.128 netmask 255.0.0.0 gateway 10.0.0.1 dns-nameservers 192.168.52.100 192.168.55.100 You will have to put in your info instead of the numbers I have. If your system is DHCP the network setup is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp I don't know what one writes for the dns servers for DHCP but would guess that it is: dns-nameservers DHCP (but I could be wrong). Errol On 30/11/13 15:09, Dennis M wrote: > The version Ubuntu upgraded to 13.10, first the internet with 13.04 > worked well. > It's the upgrade that couses the problem. > I see Realtek RTL8101E by Terminal lspci, and by iwconfig 'no wireless > extensions'. > The system is not connected wired or wireless and the swith is on. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From littlergirl at gmail.com Sun Dec 1 14:37:17 2013 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 09:37:17 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu 13.10 no internet In-Reply-To: <529AC058.4060602@tzora.co.il> References: <52988074.9090701@gmail.com> <173223318.50oim8sPKf@saucy> <52999305.6000002@cfl.rr.com> <529AC058.4060602@tzora.co.il> Message-ID: <529b499e.8742e00a.407a.5354@mx.google.com> Hey there, Errol Sapir wrote: > You will have to put in your info instead of the numbers I have. If > your system is DHCP the network setup is: > > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet dhcp > > I don't know what one writes for the dns servers for DHCP but would > guess that it is: > > dns-nameservers DHCP > (but I could be wrong). Ever since Kubuntu 12.04 the dns-nameservers line is required in the /etc/network/interfaces file. Without it you will not have internet service. That's a change from previous releases, which didn't need it. I have *no* idea why that change was made, but I'm sure glad we realized it or I wouldn't be able to write to you. (: You can use the gateway address for dns-nameservers. Here are two ways to get your gateway information (either one will work) with explanations of how each does its thing: netstat -r | awk '/default/ {print $2}' Explanation: The netstat command uses the -r option to get the kernel routing table and provides that as output to the awk command, which finds the line that begins with default and prints (displays) the contents of the 2nd column, which is your gateway. netstat -r | grep 'default' | awk '{ print $2}' Explanation: The netstat command uses the -r option to get the kernel routing table and provide that as output to the grep command, which searches for default and finds 6 columns of information. It then passes its findings to the awk command, which prints (displays) the contents of the 2nd column, which is your gateway. Someone also once recommended 8.8.8.8 as the address for dns-nameservers. It's Google's public DNS: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/ I wouldn't do that on a home computer (somehow I feel more secure with my internet provider's DNS), but I suppose it could be useful in a school or store or on a demonstration machine. (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Dec 2 04:14:06 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:14:06 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 13.10 no internet In-Reply-To: <529b499e.8742e00a.407a.5354@mx.google.com> References: <52988074.9090701@gmail.com> <173223318.50oim8sPKf@saucy> <52999305.6000002@cfl.rr.com> <529AC058.4060602@tzora.co.il> <529b499e.8742e00a.407a.5354@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <529C090E.9090103@gmail.com> On 12/01/2013 04:37 PM, Little Girl wrote: > Hey there, > > Errol Sapir wrote: > >> You will have to put in your info instead of the numbers I have. If >> your system is DHCP the network setup is: >> >> auto lo >> iface lo inet loopback >> >> auto eth0 >> iface eth0 inet dhcp >> >> I don't know what one writes for the dns servers for DHCP but would >> guess that it is: >> >> dns-nameservers DHCP >> (but I could be wrong). > > Ever since Kubuntu 12.04 the dns-nameservers line is required in > the /etc/network/interfaces file. Without it you will not have > internet service. That's a change from previous releases, which > didn't need it. I have *no* idea why that change was made, but I'm > sure glad we realized it or I wouldn't be able to write to you. (: > > You can use the gateway address for dns-nameservers. Here are two > ways to get your gateway information (either one will work) with > explanations of how each does its thing: > > netstat -r | awk '/default/ {print $2}' > > Explanation: > The netstat command uses the -r option to get the kernel routing table and provides that as output to the awk command, which finds the line that begins with default and prints (displays) the contents of the 2nd column, which is your gateway. > > netstat -r | grep 'default' | awk '{ print $2}' > > Explanation: > The netstat command uses the -r option to get the kernel routing table and provide that as output to the grep command, which searches for default and finds 6 columns of information. It then passes its findings to the awk command, which prints (displays) the contents of the 2nd column, which is your gateway. > > Someone also once recommended 8.8.8.8 as the address for > dns-nameservers. It's Google's public DNS: > > https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/ > > I wouldn't do that on a home computer (somehow I feel more secure > with my internet provider's DNS), but I suppose it could be useful in > a school or store or on a demonstration machine. (: > for some obscure security reason dns is now hidden in ubuntu. To get rid of this behaviour (I do): you need to edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and comment the “dns=dnsmasq” line. Open a terminal, and run sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf Then, make sure that the line dns=dnsmasq is commented like this: #dns=dnsmasq Now, restart network manager with the following command, and everything should work properly. sudo restart network-manager please note: use dnsmasq if using VPN From kde.lists at yahoo.com Mon Dec 2 09:51:22 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 10:51:22 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list Message-ID: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> Hi, sometimes I receive duplicated messages _from the list_ (no CC issue). It doesn't matter if I sent the mail or somebody else sent a mail to the list. The mails I receive two times are just one time in the archive. There seemingly is an issue with the list's mailman or with my Kubuntu Saucy's KMail. rocketmouse at saucy:~$ kmail -v Qt: 4.8.4 KDE Development Platform: 4.11.2 KMail: 4.11.2 Anybody experiencing the same? If so, what MUA do you use? I then would file a bug against Kmail to an Ubuntu bugtracker (not upstream) or write to one of the list masters. Regards, Ralf From kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com Mon Dec 2 12:45:58 2013 From: kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com (kubuntu) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 12:45:58 +0000 Subject: kubuntu installation problems Message-ID: <529C8106.3040800@appjaws.plus.com> Hi all, I have built a new computer and have windows7 running fine from an ssd. When I try and install kubuntu it fails, I have tried various way and each time it fails. The first problem is that it appears not to recognise that windows7 is installed on this computer. I have tried the manual option but it fails near the end by not writing the boot loader to sda, I even tried to say to install the boot loader to another disc but that failed. I then put a new disc in the computer - sde and set up /, /boot, swap partitions and changed the boot loader to sde but again it failed. Is their any other way to install kubuntu? Is the fact that windows is on a ssd a problem? Please help I love kubuntu and use it alot every day. Thank you Paul -- ---This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- From myriam at kubuntu.org Mon Dec 2 13:10:05 2013 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 14:10:05 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> Message-ID: Hi Ralf, On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi, > > sometimes I receive duplicated messages _from the list_ (no CC issue). It > doesn't matter if I sent the mail or somebody else sent a mail to the list. > The mails I receive two times are just one time in the archive. > > There seemingly is an issue with the list's mailman or with my Kubuntu Saucy's > KMail. This is not a bug in mailman nor in KMail, you just need to set the option in your mailman subscription to not receive your own mails (option "not metoo"), that's all. Currently you get all your mails as well as the one from the list. If you receive a double mail from somebody else, this person likely sent an extra copy to you and the list. Since only subscribers can post on the list, this is not necessary, so everybody should use the "reply-to-list" option only. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 2 14:20:38 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 09:20:38 -0500 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> Message-ID: <2653470.N8QoQrfAcC@linux1> On Monday, December 02, 2013 02:10:05 PM Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > sometimes I receive duplicated messages _from the list_ (no CC issue). It > > doesn't matter if I sent the mail or somebody else sent a mail to the > > list. > > The mails I receive two times are just one time in the archive. > > > > There seemingly is an issue with the list's mailman or with my Kubuntu > > Saucy's KMail. > > This is not a bug in mailman nor in KMail, you just need to set the > option in your mailman subscription to not receive your own mails > (option "not metoo"), that's all. Currently you get all your mails as > well as the one from the list. > If you receive a double mail from somebody else, this person likely > sent an extra copy to you and the list. Since only subscribers can > post on the list, this is not necessary, so everybody should use the > "reply-to-list" option only. > > Regards, Myriam Although what you say may apply elsewhere, I too receive on occation a duplicate email... and I don't believe it has anything to do with this list or others. I have noticed that when a duplicate email comes through, the SIZE of the two emails are slightly different. For example I have one here now that shows 10.3KiB and the dupe shows 10.4KiB. This always appears to be the case (the fact they are different). I use fetchmail to fetch mail to my mail server and pass the emails to procmail to put them into mboxes. Then various machines pick the mail up from the server using POP3. One thought that has occurred to me is that somehow Kmail is picking up an email before it has finished processing... and then picks it up again as a new email after it has finished. It's a rare occurrence, as in maybe twice a day. I receive less than 100 emails total in a day.... But with the (ungodly) methods of Akonadi and all the other "resource" handling that goes on with Kmail these days, I haven't bother to look into it any further. -- Fish's First Law of Animal Behavior: "The probablility of a cat eating its dinner has absolutely nothing to do with the price of the food placed before it." From myriam at kubuntu.org Mon Dec 2 17:47:25 2013 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:47:25 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <2653470.N8QoQrfAcC@linux1> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <2653470.N8QoQrfAcC@linux1> Message-ID: Hi Bruce, On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, December 02, 2013 02:10:05 PM Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> Hi Ralf, >> >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > sometimes I receive duplicated messages _from the list_ (no CC issue). It >> > doesn't matter if I sent the mail or somebody else sent a mail to the >> > list. >> > The mails I receive two times are just one time in the archive. >> > >> > There seemingly is an issue with the list's mailman or with my Kubuntu >> > Saucy's KMail. >> >> This is not a bug in mailman nor in KMail, you just need to set the >> option in your mailman subscription to not receive your own mails >> (option "not metoo"), that's all. Currently you get all your mails as >> well as the one from the list. >> If you receive a double mail from somebody else, this person likely >> sent an extra copy to you and the list. Since only subscribers can >> post on the list, this is not necessary, so everybody should use the >> "reply-to-list" option only. >> >> Regards, Myriam > > Although what you say may apply elsewhere, I too receive on occation a > duplicate email... and I don't believe it has anything to do with this list > or others. > > I have noticed that when a duplicate email comes through, the SIZE of the two > emails are slightly different. For example I have one here now that shows > 10.3KiB and the dupe shows 10.4KiB. This always appears to be the case > (the fact they are different). > > I use fetchmail to fetch mail to my mail server and pass the emails to > procmail to put them into mboxes. Then various machines pick the mail up from > the server using POP3. > > One thought that has occurred to me is that somehow Kmail is picking up an > email before it has finished processing... and then picks it up again as a > new email after it has finished. > > It's a rare occurrence, as in maybe twice a day. I receive less than 100 > emails total in a day.... But with the (ungodly) methods of Akonadi and all > the other "resource" handling that goes on with Kmail these days, I haven't > bother to look into it any further. Well, I checked your settings in mailman for this list, and you, as most of the users, has the settings left as default, which means you will receive your own mails. Just try changing the "not metoo" flag if you don't want to receive your own mails. Also, in your case, the mail header defaults to this: Reply-To: bmarsh at bmarsh.com, Kubuntu user technical support which means that all people replying to your mails on this list will also send you a copy, as requested by you. Again, this is not a bug, but in your settings. Change those and you will no longer receive duplicate mails. Regards, Myriam PS. All this information is in the complete header of each mail which is in general obfuscated to make the mail nicer to read, but all that can be changed in your mail clients, so don't blame the list or our default settings. It is up to you to configure the mail clients to get what you want. -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 2 18:09:29 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:09:29 -0500 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <2653470.N8QoQrfAcC@linux1> Message-ID: <2847088.dkM2EuiTE8@linux1> On Monday, December 02, 2013 06:47:25 PM Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Well, I checked your settings in mailman for this list, and you, as > most of the users, has the settings left as default, which means you > will receive your own mails. > > Just try changing the "not metoo" flag if you don't want to receive > your own mails. > > Also, in your case, the mail header defaults to this: > > Reply-To: bmarsh at bmarsh.com, > Kubuntu user technical support > > which means that all people replying to your mails on this list will > also send you a copy, as requested by you. Again, this is not a bug, > but in your settings. Change those and you will no longer receive > duplicate mails. I hear what you are saying but I still do not believe making those changes will solve the problem. I don't believe I have ever had a dupe with this list, but I have on some others. But in checking just now, I found in the trash a dupe sent to me by my wife, and one email showed an attachment and the other didn't show the attachment (in the message list) but yet both had the picture that was attached. Both had the same time of receipt and that is always the case when getting dupes. I'll make the change, but I have no confidence that it will change things since this is happening under varied conditions with several mail accounts. -- "Politicians should read science fiction, not westerns and detective stories." - Arthur C. Clarke From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Dec 2 18:20:07 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 13:20:07 -0500 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <2847088.dkM2EuiTE8@linux1> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <2847088.dkM2EuiTE8@linux1> Message-ID: <1429914.SzRqQqcolQ@linux1> On Monday, December 02, 2013 01:09:29 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: > But in checking just now, I found in the trash a dupe sent to me by my > wife, and one email showed an attachment and the other didn't show the > attachment (in the message list) but yet both had the picture that was > attached. Whenever an email on my email server is processed by procmail, the first thing that happens is that it is put in a 'backup' directory before any processing at all is done on it. Therefore, the backup contains anything (spam included) and everything that comes in. I just checked on the email I mentioned above, sent from my wife, and I can only find ONE copy of that email in the backup. Therefore, it would appear that any duplication took place between the time that procmail received the email and it ended up in Kmail. -- "The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance." From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 09:32:53 2013 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:32:53 +0200 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <1429914.SzRqQqcolQ@linux1> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <2847088.dkM2EuiTE8@linux1> <1429914.SzRqQqcolQ@linux1> Message-ID: <529DA545.50208@gmail.com> On 12/02/2013 08:20 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, December 02, 2013 01:09:29 PM Bruce Marshall wrote: >> But in checking just now, I found in the trash a dupe sent to me by my >> wife, and one email showed an attachment and the other didn't show the >> attachment (in the message list) but yet both had the picture that was >> attached. > > Whenever an email on my email server is processed by procmail, the first thing > that happens is that it is put in a 'backup' directory before any processing > at all is done on it. Therefore, the backup contains anything (spam included) > and everything that comes in. > > I just checked on the email I mentioned above, sent from my wife, and I can > only find ONE copy of that email in the backup. Therefore, it would appear > that any duplication took place between the time that procmail received the > email and it ended up in Kmail. > > > I regularly see this also, in fact KMail told me just now I had 6 mail from CNET in a subfolder. On opening the folder there were 6 mail - but as I watched they became 3... I had 2 copies of 3 mail in other words until I actually opened the folder in question, then they "shrunk" to 1 copy each of the 3 mails Using KDEPIM 4.10.5 on Kubuntu 12.10 (not for this list though, here I use Thunderbird actually) kind regards, Sinclair From kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com Tue Dec 3 13:47:30 2013 From: kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com (kubuntu) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 13:47:30 +0000 Subject: kubuntu installation problems -Heeeeelp!!! Message-ID: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> I sent this yesturday but not sure if it got through. Sorry if you already have it. Hi all, I have built a new computer and have windows7 running fine from an ssd. When I try and install kubuntu it fails, I have tried various way and each time it fails. The first problem is that it appears not to recognise that windows7 is installed on this computer. I have tried the manual option but it fails near the end by not writing the boot loader to sda, I even tried to say to install the boot loader to another disc but that failed. I then put a new disc in the computer - sde and set up /, /boot, swap partitions and changed the boot loader to sde but again it failed. Is their any other way to install kubuntu? Is the fact that windows is on a ssd a problem? Please help I love kubuntu and use it alot every day. Thank you Paul -- ---This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 3 14:11:30 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:11:30 +0100 Subject: kubuntu installation problems -Heeeeelp!!! In-Reply-To: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> References: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <2997534.6vxNqgl4JV@p5915> kubuntu wrote: > I have built a new computer and have windows7 running fine from an > ssd. When I try and install kubuntu it fails, I have tried various > way and each time it fails. > The first problem is that it appears not to recognise that windows7 is > installed on this computer. > I have tried the manual option but it fails near the end by not > writing the boot loader to sda, I even tried to say to install the > boot loader to another disc but that failed. > I then put a new disc in the computer - sde and set up /, /boot, swap > partitions and changed the boot loader to sde but again it failed. I don't know much about Windows7 or SSDs, but could it be that your disk uses GPT instead of MBR? Then [1] might be relevant. Hopefully someone else can tell us if the installer could handle such a situation. Nils [1] From kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com Tue Dec 3 14:42:02 2013 From: kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com (kubuntu) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 14:42:02 +0000 Subject: kubuntu installation problems -Heeeeelp!!! In-Reply-To: <2997534.6vxNqgl4JV@p5915> References: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> <2997534.6vxNqgl4JV@p5915> Message-ID: <529DEDBA.2000704@appjaws.plus.com> On 03/12/2013 14:11, Nils Kassube wrote: > kubuntu wrote: >> I have built a new computer and have windows7 running fine from an >> ssd. When I try and install kubuntu it fails, I have tried various >> way and each time it fails. >> The first problem is that it appears not to recognise that windows7 is >> installed on this computer. >> I have tried the manual option but it fails near the end by not >> writing the boot loader to sda, I even tried to say to install the >> boot loader to another disc but that failed. >> I then put a new disc in the computer - sde and set up /, /boot, swap >> partitions and changed the boot loader to sde but again it failed. > > I don't know much about Windows7 or SSDs, but could it be that your disk > uses GPT instead of MBR? Then [1] might be relevant. Hopefully someone > else can tell us if the installer could handle such a situation. > > > Nils > > [1] > > Thank you that is a clue. How do I find out if the disk is MBR or GPT? thanks Paul -- ---This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- From kassube at gmx.net Tue Dec 3 16:07:29 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:07:29 +0100 Subject: kubuntu installation problems -Heeeeelp!!! In-Reply-To: <529DEDBA.2000704@appjaws.plus.com> References: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> <2997534.6vxNqgl4JV@p5915> <529DEDBA.2000704@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <2162854.fDozyEr5Ds@p5915> kubuntu wrote: > How do I find out if the disk is MBR or GPT? You can use the command sudo parted -l in a terminal (e.g. konsole). The output shows the partition table type for each disk. Nils From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Wed Dec 4 16:06:31 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:06:31 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu 13.10 no internet In-Reply-To: <529C090E.9090103@gmail.com> References: , <52988074.9090701@gmail.com> , <173223318.50oim8sPKf@saucy>, , <52999305.6000002@cfl.rr.com> ,<529AC058.4060602@tzora.co.il> <529b499e.8742e00a.407a.5354@mx.google.com>,<529C090E.9090103@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks all for the help, the mouse didn't work anymore so it's a upgrade that didn't work.I installed the software with formatting the hdd and everything is working fine. Regards, Dennis > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 06:14:06 +0200 > From: o.sinclair at gmail.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com; o.sinclair at gmail.com > Subject: Re: Ubuntu 13.10 no internet > > On 12/01/2013 04:37 PM, Little Girl wrote: > > Hey there, > > > > Errol Sapir wrote: > > > >> You will have to put in your info instead of the numbers I have. If > >> your system is DHCP the network setup is: > >> > >> auto lo > >> iface lo inet loopback > >> > >> auto eth0 > >> iface eth0 inet dhcp > >> > >> I don't know what one writes for the dns servers for DHCP but would > >> guess that it is: > >> > >> dns-nameservers DHCP > >> (but I could be wrong). > > > > Ever since Kubuntu 12.04 the dns-nameservers line is required in > > the /etc/network/interfaces file. Without it you will not have > > internet service. That's a change from previous releases, which > > didn't need it. I have *no* idea why that change was made, but I'm > > sure glad we realized it or I wouldn't be able to write to you. (: > > > > You can use the gateway address for dns-nameservers. Here are two > > ways to get your gateway information (either one will work) with > > explanations of how each does its thing: > > > > netstat -r | awk '/default/ {print $2}' > > > > Explanation: > > The netstat command uses the -r option to get the kernel routing table and provides that as output to the awk command, which finds the line that begins with default and prints (displays) the contents of the 2nd column, which is your gateway. > > > > netstat -r | grep 'default' | awk '{ print $2}' > > > > Explanation: > > The netstat command uses the -r option to get the kernel routing table and provide that as output to the grep command, which searches for default and finds 6 columns of information. It then passes its findings to the awk command, which prints (displays) the contents of the 2nd column, which is your gateway. > > > > Someone also once recommended 8.8.8.8 as the address for > > dns-nameservers. It's Google's public DNS: > > > > https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/ > > > > I wouldn't do that on a home computer (somehow I feel more secure > > with my internet provider's DNS), but I suppose it could be useful in > > a school or store or on a demonstration machine. (: > > > for some obscure security reason dns is now hidden in ubuntu. To get rid > of this behaviour (I do): > > you need to edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and comment the > “dns=dnsmasq” line. > Open a terminal, and run > sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf > Then, make sure that the line > dns=dnsmasq > is commented like this: > #dns=dnsmasq > Now, restart network manager with the following command, and everything > should work properly. > sudo restart network-manager > > please note: > use dnsmasq if using VPN > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kde.lists at yahoo.com Thu Dec 5 00:03:12 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:03:12 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> Message-ID: <1389574.JkN82ePuFn@saucy> On Monday 02 December 2013 14:10:05 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hi, > > > > sometimes I receive duplicated messages _from the list_ (no CC issue). It > > doesn't matter if I sent the mail or somebody else sent a mail to the > > list. > > The mails I receive two times are just one time in the archive. > > > > There seemingly is an issue with the list's mailman or with my Kubuntu > > Saucy's KMail. > > This is not a bug in mailman nor in KMail, you just need to set the > option in your mailman subscription to not receive your own mails > (option "not metoo"), that's all. Currently you get all your mails as > well as the one from the list. > If you receive a double mail from somebody else, this person likely > sent an extra copy to you and the list. Since only subscribers can > post on the list, this is not necessary, so everybody should use the > "reply-to-list" option only. No, that's not the problem. I'm using mailing lists for around 10 years ;), most of them are mailman lists. There definitively is something broken with the mailman settings or KMail. From kde.lists at yahoo.com Thu Dec 5 00:06:28 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:06:28 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <2653470.N8QoQrfAcC@linux1> Message-ID: <14004025.QJfEVGHYmN@saucy> On Monday 02 December 2013 18:47:25 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > > On Monday, December 02, 2013 02:10:05 PM Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > >> Hi Ralf, > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > sometimes I receive duplicated messages _from the list_ (no CC issue). > >> > It > >> > doesn't matter if I sent the mail or somebody else sent a mail to the > >> > list. > >> > The mails I receive two times are just one time in the archive. > >> > > >> > There seemingly is an issue with the list's mailman or with my Kubuntu > >> > Saucy's KMail. > >> > >> This is not a bug in mailman nor in KMail, you just need to set the > >> option in your mailman subscription to not receive your own mails > >> (option "not metoo"), that's all. Currently you get all your mails as > >> well as the one from the list. > >> If you receive a double mail from somebody else, this person likely > >> sent an extra copy to you and the list. Since only subscribers can > >> post on the list, this is not necessary, so everybody should use the > >> "reply-to-list" option only. > >> > >> Regards, Myriam > > > > Although what you say may apply elsewhere, I too receive on occation a > > duplicate email... and I don't believe it has anything to do with this > > list or others. > > > > I have noticed that when a duplicate email comes through, the SIZE of the > > two emails are slightly different. For example I have one here now that > > shows 10.3KiB and the dupe shows 10.4KiB. This always appears to be > > the case (the fact they are different). > > > > I use fetchmail to fetch mail to my mail server and pass the emails to > > procmail to put them into mboxes. Then various machines pick the mail up > > from the server using POP3. > > > > One thought that has occurred to me is that somehow Kmail is picking up an > > email before it has finished processing... and then picks it up again as > > a new email after it has finished. > > > > It's a rare occurrence, as in maybe twice a day. I receive less than 100 > > emails total in a day.... But with the (ungodly) methods of Akonadi and > > all the other "resource" handling that goes on with Kmail these days, I > > haven't bother to look into it any further. > > Well, I checked your settings in mailman for this list, and you, as > most of the users, has the settings left as default, which means you > will receive your own mails. > > Just try changing the "not metoo" flag if you don't want to receive > your own mails. > > Also, in your case, the mail header defaults to this: > > Reply-To: bmarsh at bmarsh.com, > Kubuntu user technical support > > which means that all people replying to your mails on this list will > also send you a copy, as requested by you. Again, this is not a bug, > but in your settings. Change those and you will no longer receive > duplicate mails. > > > Regards, Myriam > > PS. All this information is in the complete header of each mail which > is in general obfuscated to make the mail nicer to read, but all that > can be changed in your mail clients, so don't blame the list or our > default settings. It is up to you to configure the mail clients to get > what you want. You do not understand. I use other mailers and are subscribed to other mailman mailing lists. This only happens sometimes, not always, only for KMail and this list. From kde.lists at yahoo.com Thu Dec 5 00:08:52 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:08:52 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <2847088.dkM2EuiTE8@linux1> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <2847088.dkM2EuiTE8@linux1> Message-ID: <6540674.aQciDUkrYv@saucy> On Monday 02 December 2013 13:09:29 Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Monday, December 02, 2013 06:47:25 PM Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > Well, I checked your settings in mailman for this list, and you, as > > most of the users, has the settings left as default, which means you > > will receive your own mails. > > > > Just try changing the "not metoo" flag if you don't want to receive > > your own mails. > > > > Also, in your case, the mail header defaults to this: > > > > Reply-To: bmarsh at bmarsh.com, > > > > Kubuntu user technical support > > > > which means that all people replying to your mails on this list will > > also send you a copy, as requested by you. Again, this is not a bug, > > but in your settings. Change those and you will no longer receive > > duplicate mails. > > I hear what you are saying but I still do not believe making those changes > will solve the problem. I don't believe I have ever had a dupe with this > list, but I have on some others. > > But in checking just now, I found in the trash a dupe sent to me by my wife, > and one email showed an attachment and the other didn't show the attachment > (in the message list) but yet both had the picture that was attached. > > Both had the same time of receipt and that is always the case when getting > dupes. > > I'll make the change, but I have no confidence that it will change things > since this is happening under varied conditions with several mail accounts. So it seems to be an issue with KMail. Upstream related or a bad Kubuntu package? I guess I'll file the bug against a *buntu bug tracker, if I've got some time to do it. From kde.lists at yahoo.com Thu Dec 5 00:15:06 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:15:06 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <529DA545.50208@gmail.com> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <1429914.SzRqQqcolQ@linux1> <529DA545.50208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2517779.BYYsXfCJxx@saucy> On Tuesday 03 December 2013 11:32:53 O. Sinclair wrote: > I regularly see this also, in fact KMail told me just now I had 6 mail > from CNET in a subfolder. On opening the folder there were 6 mail - but > as I watched they became 3... I had 2 copies of 3 mail in other words > until I actually opened the folder in question, then they "shrunk" to 1 > copy each of the 3 mails > > Using KDEPIM 4.10.5 on Kubuntu 12.10 (not for this list though, here I > use Thunderbird actually) > Thank you all for the replies. I guess we can assume that it's KMail related :(. I try to find a replacement for Evolution, KMail unlikely will become this replacement, since there are other issues too. If I e.g. wrap a line by the return key, I need to scroll the editor window, because the new line is not visible, when writing at the bottom of the editor window. Regards, Ralf From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Thu Dec 5 03:37:05 2013 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:37:05 -0500 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <6540674.aQciDUkrYv@saucy> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <2847088.dkM2EuiTE8@linux1> <6540674.aQciDUkrYv@saucy> Message-ID: <1806561.JzJgtrn4G7@linux1> On Thursday, December 05, 2013 01:08:52 AM you wrote: > > I'll make the change, but I have no confidence that it will change things > > since this is happening under varied conditions with several mail > > accounts. > > So it seems to be an issue with KMail. Upstream related or a bad Kubuntu > package? I guess I'll file the bug against a *buntu bug tracker, if I've > got some time to do it. I still think it is a timing problem in my case with picking up the mail... Most of the time when I get a duplicate, the SIZE of each email is different. Says to me that maybe kmail (or its ungodly complicated 'resources') are picking up the mail twice, because it may still be under processing by procmail while akonadi is picking it up the first time. Then it gets picked up the second time in its finished form. I've made some changes to my procmailrc to try to prevent this. We shall see whether it stops the dupes. -- "I love cats because I love my home and after a while they become its visible soul." - Jean Cocteau From kde.lists at yahoo.com Thu Dec 5 07:06:09 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 08:06:09 +0100 Subject: Duplicated messages sent from the list In-Reply-To: <1806561.JzJgtrn4G7@linux1> References: <6001817.RvV7EhaSUl@saucy> <6540674.aQciDUkrYv@saucy> <1806561.JzJgtrn4G7@linux1> Message-ID: <2627471.ysoPQz9k1h@saucy> On Wednesday 04 December 2013 22:37:05 Bruce Marshall wrote: > I still think it is a timing problem in my case with picking up the mail... > Most of the time when I get a duplicate, the SIZE of each email is > different. Says to me that maybe kmail (or its ungodly complicated > 'resources') are picking up the mail twice, because it may still be under > processing by procmail while akonadi is picking it up the first time. Then > it gets picked up the second time in its finished form. > > I've made some changes to my procmailrc to try to prevent this. We shall > see whether it stops the dupes. I will install KMail to my Arch Linux too and set-up other MUAs for Kubuntu too. KMail on Kubuntu does not filter without fault, so there might be a procmail issue. Akonadi is new to me, however, I anyway don't set-up those dependencies by editing config files, I'm only using the MUAs preferences. Your assumption sounds plausible, race conditions are common bugs nowadays. Regards, Ralf From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 09:37:55 2013 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:37:55 -0800 Subject: kubuntu installation problems -Heeeeelp!!! In-Reply-To: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> References: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:47 AM, kubuntu wrote: > I sent this yesturday but not sure if it got through. > Sorry if you already have it. > Hi all, > I have built a new computer and have windows7 running fine from an ssd. When > I try and install kubuntu it fails, I have tried various way and each time > it fails. > The first problem is that it appears not to recognise that windows7 is > installed on this computer. > I have tried the manual option but it fails near the end by not writing the > boot loader to sda, I even tried to say to install the boot loader to > another disc but that failed. > I then put a new disc in the computer - sde and set up /, /boot, swap > partitions and changed the boot loader to sde but again it failed. > > Is their any other way to install kubuntu? > Is the fact that windows is on a ssd a problem? > > Please help I love kubuntu and use it alot every day. > > Thank you > Paul Hey Paul, I'm typing to you on a computer which has Kubuntu on the SSD, and Windows and my /home on the HD. So Kubuntu plays just fine with SSDs, and with Windows. The tricky part is identifying which partitions are where, so that grub properly sees everything. I'll have to admit I hosed that up when I last did a clean install, so I took it over to my son's house to watch while he did yet another clean install. He said that was easier than messing with grub! So I can offer you no step-by-step, but it is definitely possible to do as you want. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com Fri Dec 6 11:53:40 2013 From: kubuntu at appjaws.plus.com (kubuntu) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:53:40 +0000 Subject: Dual boot with windows 7 Message-ID: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> Hi, I have built a new computer and after many tries to install kubuntu 13:10 and failing each time, I think because the boot and windows disc is a SSD and has a GPT partition as do my other discs. So I filtted another hard disc and disconnected all of the other discs and installed kubuntu using the "use all disc" option. This installation went well and I have booted into kubuntu and all worked well. I have now re-connected all of my other discs and when I boot the computer windows 7 starts. How do I get the windows boot system to offer an option for kubuntu on startup or how do I get kubuntu to offer a choice to boot into windows considering windows is on a GPT disc. I hope the above is clear Thank you for any help Paul -- ---This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- From kde.lists at yahoo.com Fri Dec 6 12:11:42 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:11:42 +0100 Subject: Dual boot with windows 7 In-Reply-To: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> References: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <1386331902.1075.4.camel@archlinux> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 11:53 +0000, kubuntu wrote: > How do I get the windows boot system to offer an option for kubuntu on > startup or how do I get kubuntu to offer a choice to boot into windows > considering windows is on a GPT disc. I manually edit grub.cfg and add for OS that use their own boot loader a chainload, e.g. menuentry "FreeBSD"{ set root=(hd0,msdos1) chainloader +1 } menuentry "XP"{ set root=(hd1,1) drivemap -s hd0 hd1 chainloader +1 } If you want to use grub with the automatically thingy and the automatically generated grub.cfg shouldn't work anyway search the web for explanations, how exactly a chainload does work and what to consider to get your Windows version booted. Regards, Ralf From mrmazda at earthlink.net Fri Dec 6 14:54:23 2013 From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:54:23 -0500 Subject: Dual^H^H^H^Hmulti boot with windows 7 In-Reply-To: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> References: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <52A1E51F.8080508@earthlink.net> On 2013-12-06 11:53 (GMT) kubuntu composed: > I have built a new computer and after many tries to install kubuntu > 13:10 and failing each time, I think because the boot and windows disc > is a SSD and has a GPT partition as do my other discs. > So I filtted another hard disc and disconnected all of the other discs > and installed kubuntu using the "use all disc" option. > This installation went well and I have booted into kubuntu and all > worked well. > I have now re-connected all of my other discs and when I boot the > computer windows 7 starts. > How do I get the windows boot system to offer an option for kubuntu on > startup or how do I get kubuntu to offer a choice to boot into windows > considering windows is on a GPT disc. You might find it easier to go into the system BIOS setup menu and enable the menu to choose which HD to boot from each time. Check out http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/ too. You might wish to start over with that new HD, reserving some space for a 2nd Linux /, and making /home separate, so at upgrade time you can choose new install without wiping out your existing well working Kubuntu. It allows to test a new installation (realistically, unlike live media boots, which are slower and often limiting), or another distro, without wiping out what you have, and enabling the older to use as a repair tool if and when necessary. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ From henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 16:27:11 2013 From: henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com (Henry Linux) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:27:11 -0200 Subject: Dual boot with windows 7 In-Reply-To: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> References: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: 2013/12/6 kubuntu > Hi, > I have built a new computer and after many tries to install kubuntu 13:10 > and failing each time, I think because the boot and windows disc is a SSD > and has a GPT partition as do my other discs. > > So I filtted another hard disc and disconnected all of the other discs and > installed kubuntu using the "use all disc" option. > This installation went well and I have booted into kubuntu and all worked > well. > I have now re-connected all of my other discs and when I boot the computer > windows 7 starts. > > How do I get the windows boot system to offer an option for kubuntu on > startup or how do I get kubuntu to offer a choice to boot into windows > considering windows is on a GPT disc. > > I hope the above is clear > Thank you for any help > Paul > -- > try this command like root: update-grub Henry. > ---This message has been sent using Thunderbird on kubuntu--- > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> References: <529DE0F2.9020501@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:47 AM, kubuntu wrote: > I sent this yesturday but not sure if it got through. > Sorry if you already have it. > Hi all, > I have built a new computer and have windows7 running fine from an ssd. > When I try and install kubuntu it fails, I have tried various way and each > time it fails. > The first problem is that it appears not to recognise that windows7 is > installed on this computer. > I have tried the manual option but it fails near the end by not writing > the boot loader to sda, I even tried to say to install the boot loader to > another disc but that failed. > I then put a new disc in the computer - sde and set up /, /boot, swap > partitions and changed the boot loader to sde but again it failed. > > Is their any other way to install kubuntu? > Is the fact that windows is on a ssd a problem? > You could try boot-repair: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danielhollocher at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 19:28:36 2013 From: danielhollocher at gmail.com (Daniel Hollocher) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:28:36 -0500 Subject: Dual boot with windows 7 In-Reply-To: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> References: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:53 AM, kubuntu wrote: > Hi, > I have built a new computer and after many tries to install kubuntu 13:10 > and failing each time, I think because the boot and windows disc is a SSD > and has a GPT partition as do my other discs. > > So I filtted another hard disc and disconnected all of the other discs and > installed kubuntu using the "use all disc" option. > This installation went well and I have booted into kubuntu and all worked > well. > I have now re-connected all of my other discs and when I boot the computer > windows 7 starts. > > How do I get the windows boot system to offer an option for kubuntu on > startup or how do I get kubuntu to offer a choice to boot into windows > considering windows is on a GPT disc. > I just suggested boot-repair to another person boot-repair, when I meant to send it to you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair I just used it for a windows 8 / uefi dual boot, and it worked partly, enough that I could do what I wanted. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kde.lists at yahoo.com Fri Dec 6 20:18:09 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 21:18:09 +0100 Subject: Dual boot with windows 7 In-Reply-To: References: <52A1BAC4.50203@appjaws.plus.com> Message-ID: <4280856.WevIzlHYFV@saucy> On Friday 06 December 2013 14:28:36 Daniel Hollocher wrote: > I just suggested boot-repair to another person boot-repair, when I meant to > send it to you. The OP "restarted" the original thread, continued it using another subject. You sent it two times to the same OP. ;) From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat Dec 21 07:58:32 2013 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:58:32 +0000 Subject: Taste Massage, Ignore..... Message-ID: <280696.464327292-sendEmail@xpresso> This has been a taste, _ONLY_ a taste, of the tastefully tastefull xpresso boredcasting system. See, I told you to ignore it.....:-) So anyway, did the list die or what? I aven't seen anything since the 6th. From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat Dec 21 12:37:44 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 07:37:44 -0500 Subject: Taste Massage, Ignore..... In-Reply-To: <280696.464327292-sendEmail@xpresso> References: <280696.464327292-sendEmail@xpresso> Message-ID: <201312210737.44373.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday 21 December 2013 07:36:54 kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org did opine: > This has been a taste, _ONLY_ a taste, > of the tastefully tastefull > xpresso boredcasting system. > > See, I told you to ignore it.....:-) > > So anyway, did the list die or what? I aven't > seen anything since the 6th. Something on your end I think, the noise level is about normal here. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page Walk softly and carry a big stick. -- Theodore Roosevelt A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sat Dec 21 13:21:53 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 14:21:53 +0100 Subject: Taste Massage, Ignore..... In-Reply-To: <201312210737.44373.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <280696.464327292-sendEmail@xpresso> <201312210737.44373.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <1387632113.688.5.camel@archlinux> On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 07:37 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 21 December 2013 07:36:54 kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org did opine: > > > This has been a taste, _ONLY_ a taste, > > of the tastefully tastefull > > xpresso boredcasting system. > > > > See, I told you to ignore it.....:-) > > > > So anyway, did the list die or what? I aven't > > seen anything since the 6th. > > Something on your end I think, the noise level is about normal here. Hi Gene :) you both are right. Noise level is virtually zero, IOW normal for this list, but take a look at the archive, last mails are from 2013-Dec-06. Regards, Ralf From phb at hbsys.plus.com Sat Dec 21 17:38:37 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 17:38:37 +0000 Subject: Synaptic integration Message-ID: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> Help, please. I installed Synaptic from the standard repository and I've noticed many missing features, including the current transfer status of downloading files, repository details, mal-functioning scroll bar plus others. This has happened before and was caused by a missing library, but I can't remember which library it was. Could anyone aid my failing memory - I promise to keep a written record for next time. :-) Peter HB From thomas at tanghus.net Sat Dec 21 20:25:10 2013 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:25:10 +0100 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> On Saturday 21 December 2013 17:38 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > Help, please. I installed Synaptic from the standard repository and I've > noticed many missing features, including the current transfer status of > downloading files, repository details, mal-functioning scroll bar plus > others. > > This has happened before and was caused by a missing library, but I > can't remember which library it was. Could anyone aid my failing memory > - I promise to keep a written record for next time. :-) > > Peter HB Isn't synaptic deprecated? http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ shows last change 07. January 2009 -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From kassube at gmx.net Sat Dec 21 20:28:22 2013 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:28:22 +0100 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> Message-ID: <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> Thomas Tanghus wrote: > Isn't synaptic deprecated? http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ shows last > change 07. January 2009 Deprecated or not - it is available in the repositories and IMHO it is still the best package manager available. Nils From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat Dec 21 20:30:43 2013 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:30:43 -0500 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> Message-ID: <201312211530.43480.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday 21 December 2013 15:30:21 Nils Kassube did opine: > Thomas Tanghus wrote: > > Isn't synaptic deprecated? http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ shows last > > change 07. January 2009 > > Deprecated or not - it is available in the repositories and IMHO it is > still the best package manager available. > > > Nils I'll second that. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page ... though his invention worked superbly -- his theory was a crock of sewage from beginning to end. -- Vernor Vinge, "The Peace War" A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sat Dec 21 21:15:27 2013 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:15:27 -0500 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> Message-ID: <52B604EF.7000109@optonline.net> On 12/21/2013 03:28 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Thomas Tanghus wrote: >> Isn't synaptic deprecated? http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ shows last >> change 07. January 2009 > Deprecated or not - it is available in the repositories and IMHO it is > still the best package manager available. > > > Nils > > +1 --doug From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sat Dec 21 21:41:38 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 22:41:38 +0100 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <201312211530.43480.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> <201312211530.43480.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <1387662098.942.11.camel@archlinux> On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 17:38 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > Help, please. I installed Synaptic from the standard repository and > I've noticed many missing features Install all suggested and recommended packages too. In Synaptic right click on the Synaptic package to get a menu with the suggested and recommended packages. When using Ubuntu and Debian I prefer Synaptic over apt most of the times. But for Kubuntu Saucy and FWIW for Debian stable too, Synaptic isn't stable anymore :(. I doesn't crash, but sometimes there's the need to close and open it again, to get rid of false positive inconsistency errors. Btw. I wonder if Synaptic does interpret pinning correctly. -- Windows 8 Pro floppy disk 1 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-December/255074.html From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sun Dec 22 12:03:09 2013 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 12:03:09 +0000 Subject: Firefox showing Gnome icons Message-ID: <11384156.WnnD2MLeQe@rachael> Since installing Solaar[1] to Kubuntu 13.04 recently, my back and forwards icons in Firefox have changed from the Oxygen themed ones to the default Gnome ones. I've tried various things to get them back, but without any success. [1] https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive/solaar From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Dec 22 12:41:05 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:41:05 +0100 Subject: Firefox showing Gnome icons In-Reply-To: <11384156.WnnD2MLeQe@rachael> References: <11384156.WnnD2MLeQe@rachael> Message-ID: <1387716065.653.128.camel@archlinux> On Sun, 2013-12-22 at 12:03 +0000, Mark Fraser wrote: > [1] https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive/solaar "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Daniel Pavel." Don't get me wrong, IMO it's ok, if you ask for help on this list, but you anyway should be aware that you installed it from a PPA and not from official repositories. You at least should report the bug to the appropriate bugtracker. From thomas at tanghus.net Sun Dec 22 13:22:44 2013 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 14:22:44 +0100 Subject: Firefox showing Gnome icons In-Reply-To: <1387716065.653.128.camel@archlinux> References: <11384156.WnnD2MLeQe@rachael> <1387716065.653.128.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: <3909856.vB672qE1rX@tanghus.flatrate.dk> On Sunday 22 December 2013 13:41 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > You at least should report the bug to the > appropriate bugtracker. But please report the answer back here. I also wondered about those icons, but didn't connect them to solaar until you mentioned it. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From phb at hbsys.plus.com Sun Dec 22 13:26:10 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:26:10 +0000 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <1387662098.942.11.camel@archlinux> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> <201312211530.43480.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1387662098.942.11.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: <52B6E872.1060805@hbsys.plus.com> On 21/12/13 21:41, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 17:38 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> Help, please. I installed Synaptic from the standard repository and >> I've noticed many missing features > > Install all suggested and recommended packages too. In Synaptic right > click on the Synaptic package to get a menu with the suggested and > recommended packages. That did the trick, thanks. I'll now spend some time working out which packages were relevant (I installed everything) and tidying things up. It's a pity that the scroll bar remains faulty, so that issue is probably Ubuntu related, rather than anything else. > When using Ubuntu and Debian I prefer Synaptic over apt most of the > times. So do I, hence my query. I use Synaptic for system maintenance and apt mostly for single package installations. > But for Kubuntu Saucy and FWIW for Debian stable too, Synaptic isn't > stable anymore :(. I doesn't crash, but sometimes there's the need to > close and open it again, to get rid of false positive inconsistency > errors. Btw. I wonder if Synaptic does interpret pinning correctly. I haven't noticed that, but I'll keep my eyes open. Peter HB From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Dec 22 13:47:49 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 14:47:49 +0100 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <52B6E872.1060805@hbsys.plus.com> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> <201312211530.43480.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1387662098.942.11.camel@archlinux> <52B6E872.1060805@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <1387720069.653.163.camel@archlinux> On Sun, 2013-12-22 at 13:26 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 21/12/13 21:41, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 17:38 +0000, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > >> Help, please. I installed Synaptic from the standard repository and > >> I've noticed many missing features > > > > Install all suggested and recommended packages too. In Synaptic right > > click on the Synaptic package to get a menu with the suggested and > > recommended packages. > > That did the trick, thanks. You're welcome! > I'll now spend some time working out which packages were relevant (I > installed everything) and tidying things up. Likely that you only need the recommended packages and that you can completely remove the suggested packages. You can set up Synaptic to always install recommended packages too, by Synaptic's preferences. > It's a pity that the scroll bar remains faulty, so that issue is > probably Ubuntu related, rather than anything else. No, at least unlikely, but the GTK upstream seemingly is a band of idiots. I'm writing from Xfce on Arch Linux, using Evolution. The culprit for such issues most of the times, if not always, is GTK. From thomas at tanghus.net Sun Dec 22 13:49:48 2013 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 14:49:48 +0100 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> Message-ID: <2186881.JJFRF8oo7u@tanghus.flatrate.dk> On Saturday 21 December 2013 21:28 Nils Kassube wrote: > Thomas Tanghus wrote: > > Isn't synaptic deprecated? http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/ shows last > > change 07. January 2009 > > Deprecated or not - it is available in the repositories and IMHO it is > still the best package manager available. I also used it for years for the same reason, but I really think Muon has caught up by now. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Sun Dec 22 16:59:59 2013 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:59:59 +0000 Subject: Firefox showing Gnome icons In-Reply-To: <3909856.vB672qE1rX@tanghus.flatrate.dk> References: <11384156.WnnD2MLeQe@rachael> <1387716065.653.128.camel@archlinux> <3909856.vB672qE1rX@tanghus.flatrate.dk> Message-ID: <1953054.DRf25jLcv3@rachael> On Sunday 22 Dec 2013 14:22:44 Thomas Tanghus wrote: > On Sunday 22 December 2013 13:41 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You at least should report the bug to the > > appropriate bugtracker. > > But please report the answer back here. I also wondered about those icons, > but didn't connect them to solaar until you mentioned it. I fixed it by removing the package gnome-icon-theme. When I tried to do that yesterday, it wanted to remove solaar as well, but of course as soon as I posted to this mailing list it worked! From thomas at tanghus.net Sun Dec 22 22:11:51 2013 From: thomas at tanghus.net (Thomas Tanghus) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 23:11:51 +0100 Subject: Firefox showing Gnome icons In-Reply-To: <1953054.DRf25jLcv3@rachael> References: <11384156.WnnD2MLeQe@rachael> <3909856.vB672qE1rX@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <1953054.DRf25jLcv3@rachael> Message-ID: <24793026.AUvZr1DfDh@tanghus.flatrate.dk> On Sunday 22 December 2013 16:59 Mark Fraser wrote: > On Sunday 22 Dec 2013 14:22:44 Thomas Tanghus wrote: > > On Sunday 22 December 2013 13:41 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > You at least should report the bug to the > > > appropriate bugtracker. > > > > But please report the answer back here. I also wondered about those icons, > > but didn't connect them to solaar until you mentioned it. > > I fixed it by removing the package gnome-icon-theme. > > When I tried to do that yesterday, it wanted to remove solaar as well, but > of course as soon as I posted to this mailing list it worked! aptitude suggested removing gnome-icon-theme-full and installing oxygen-icon- theme-complete which solved it. Thanks. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus From chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk Mon Dec 23 00:21:36 2013 From: chris at bvhg.freeserve.co.uk (Chris Luck) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 00:21:36 +0000 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: <52B6E872.1060805@hbsys.plus.com> References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> <201312211530.43480.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1387662098.942.11.camel@archlinux> <52B6E872.1060805@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: On 22/12/13 13:26, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > It's a pity that the scroll bar remains faulty, so that issue is > probably Ubuntu related, rather than anything else. This issue has come up earlier, see thread - Subject: 13.10 mouse in GNOME apps, From: Glenn Holmer, Date: 26/10/13 To spare you having to read the whole thread, here is the solution - Pagination by clicking on the scrollbar track... This issue is down to Gnome-ish scheming, see here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704277 To get the standard paging effect they now expect us to *Right*-click on the scrollbar track! But there is a hack on offer which reverts to the standard behaviour: To handle apps. user-wide, edit: ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini To handle apps. system-wide and/or those opened with kdesu, edit: /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini Add this line to the settings: gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0 -- Regards, Chris Luck From phb at hbsys.plus.com Mon Dec 23 13:10:49 2013 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:10:49 +0000 Subject: Synaptic integration In-Reply-To: References: <52B5D21D.3050406@hbsys.plus.com> <3616076.kcG5KWN4yf@tanghus.flatrate.dk> <2693132.R6YtjsoJOh@p5915> <201312211530.43480.gheskett@wdtv.com> <1387662098.942.11.camel@archlinux> <52B6E872.1060805@hbsys.plus.com> Message-ID: <52B83659.90103@hbsys.plus.com> On 23/12/13 00:21, Chris Luck wrote: > On 22/12/13 13:26, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > >> It's a pity that the scroll bar remains faulty, so that issue is >> probably Ubuntu related, rather than anything else. > > > This issue has come up earlier, see thread - > Subject: 13.10 mouse in GNOME apps, From: Glenn Holmer, Date: 26/10/13 > > To spare you having to read the whole thread, here is the solution - > > Pagination by clicking on the scrollbar track... > This issue is down to Gnome-ish scheming, see here: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704277 > > To get the standard paging effect they now expect us to *Right*-click on > the scrollbar track! But there is a hack on offer which reverts to the > standard behaviour: > > To handle apps. user-wide, edit: > ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini > > To handle apps. system-wide and/or those opened with kdesu, edit: > /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini > > Add this line to the settings: > gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0 > Many thanks for this info. It completely solves my issue. Happy Christmas to all. Peter HB From mmtsales at gmail.com Mon Dec 23 18:55:26 2013 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:55:26 -0300 Subject: Can't update system configuration Message-ID: <6013201.8blJ541qH4@home-01> Hello, I'm trying to change a file type association using System Settings -> File Associations. After I apply the change I want, I get a dialog which reads "Updating system configuration." with a progress bar that goes all the way to 100% and then goes back to 0% and repeats this indefinitely. I can wait for days and it does not finish. If I cancel, the change is not applied. This also happens when I try to make changes in the K Menu. Any idea on what may be causing this problem and how can I solve it? Thanks, Marcelo From mmtsales at gmail.com Mon Dec 23 19:11:34 2013 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 16:11:34 -0300 Subject: Can't update system configuration In-Reply-To: <6013201.8blJ541qH4@home-01> References: <6013201.8blJ541qH4@home-01> Message-ID: <4161632.MHAkN9gHGn@home-01> Em segunda-feira, 23 de dezembro de 2013, às 15:55:26, Marcelo Magno T. Sales escreveu: > Hello, > > I'm trying to change a file type association using System Settings -> File > Associations. After I apply the change I want, I get a dialog which reads > "Updating system configuration." with a progress bar that goes all the way > to 100% and then goes back to 0% and repeats this indefinitely. I can wait > for days and it does not finish. If I cancel, the change is not applied. > This also happens when I try to make changes in the K Menu. > Any idea on what may be causing this problem and how can I solve it? > > Thanks, > > Marcelo Sorry, I forgot to add that I'm using Kubuntu 12.10 and KDE 4.11.1 from the backports repo. Thanks, Marcelo From kde.lists at yahoo.com Mon Dec 23 19:11:54 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:11:54 +0100 Subject: Can't update system configuration In-Reply-To: <6013201.8blJ541qH4@home-01> References: <6013201.8blJ541qH4@home-01> Message-ID: <1387825914.677.26.camel@archlinux> You should run the apps in a terminal to get messages. Take a look at the menu configuration, if you don't know the names of the apps. You first could take a look if ~/.xsession-errors does provide useful information. -- "If your kid needs a role model and you ain't it, you're both fu Hello fellow Kubuntu users we on the Kubuntu Docs Team need you to help us look for spelling errors, links that work, grammar errors and anything else you guys and gals can find to make the best docs we can do! Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Thu Dec 26 12:19:37 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 13:19:37 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe Message-ID: Nice cristmas all, I can't boot Lubuntu 13.10, i get the error "Could not write bytes: broken pipe" after removing a Windows partition. I tried the recovery modus 'broken packeges' and 'fsck'. No results at the moment. Regards, Dennis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kde.lists at yahoo.com Thu Dec 26 14:07:07 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 15:07:07 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1388066827.707.16.camel@archlinux> Hi Dennis, usually when using mailing lists, we don't post HTML and do some research on our own, since Linux is an OS that asks for self-responsibility. On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 13:19 +0100, Dennis M wrote: > after removing a Windows partition What did you make with the free space, after deleting the partition? If you enlarged/moved the Lubuntu boot partition you need to reinstall grub. And I mean grub, not the grub package. OTOH if you search the web for Could not write bytes: broken pipe you get lot of links that lead to something else, seemingly graphics drivers need to be reinstalled. IOW Search the web for Could not write bytes: broken pipe or assumed you moved the boot partition search the web for install grub and chroot install grub Some related links: http://www.amarillolinux.com/mb/index.php?topic=1257.0 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058521 http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot I did not verify the links, but it's unlikely that they aren't ok. If this shouldn't work or if you don't understand something ask again. If you were able to solve the issue, mark the thread/subject as [solved] and share how you was able to fix it. Regards, Ralf From theuteck at gmail.com Thu Dec 26 19:50:51 2013 From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 13:50:51 -0600 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> I would suspect that the boot loader is confused since the partitions have moved. You need to get it updated with the new partition tables. Here is a link to a bootable disk that should fix it for you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair On Thursday, December 26, 2013 01:19:37 PM Dennis M wrote: > Nice cristmas all, > I can't boot Lubuntu 13.10, i get the error "Could not write bytes: broken > pipe" after removing a Windows partition. I tried the recovery modus > 'broken packeges' and 'fsck'. > No results at the moment. > > Regards, Dennis From kde.lists at yahoo.com Fri Dec 27 09:07:57 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 10:07:57 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> References: <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> Message-ID: <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 13:50 -0600, theuteck at gmail.com wrote: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair I discourage anybody to use such a strange tool and instead to follow my advice [1] to do it the good old Linux KISS principle way. Btw. this thingy seems to work with MBR only. In addition the OP didn't give enough information and the posted message doesn't lead to a moved boot partition issue. We even do not know if the OP is using GRUB. I asked the OP "What did you make with the free space, after deleting the partition?" [1] FWIW using GParted the OP would have been warned when moving a partition. [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2013-December/058817.html From idht4n at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 16:17:47 2013 From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:17:47 -0800 Subject: org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver does not exist Message-ID: I just upgraded to 13.10 and a script that used to work for me stopped working. Specifically, I had a script that I ran from a cron job that locked the screen so my kids can't use the computer in the family room for long periods of time. The script looks like this: #!/bin/bash export DISPLAY=:0.0 export PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin:$PATH qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock In 13.04, it was working fine from cron. Now it works from a terminal in the local X session, but not from a remote ssh session or from cron. It gives this error now from ssh: Service 'org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver' does not exist. Any ideas how I can get it working again? Thanks, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 16:24:50 2013 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:24:50 +0000 Subject: org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver does not exist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6684204.SHBSYotn9V@rachael> On Friday 27 Dec 2013 08:17:47 David L wrote: > I just upgraded to 13.10 and a script that used to work for me stopped > working. Specifically, I had a script that I ran from a cron job that > locked the screen so my kids can't use the computer in the family room for > long periods of time. The script looks like this: > > #!/bin/bash > export DISPLAY=:0.0 > export PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin:$PATH > qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock > > > In 13.04, it was working fine from cron. Now it works from a terminal in > the local X session, but not from a remote ssh session or from cron. It > gives this error now from ssh: > > Service 'org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver' does not exist. > > Any ideas how I can get it working again? Dave, Does the solution offered here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314989 help you? Mark. From idht4n at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 16:55:35 2013 From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 08:55:35 -0800 Subject: org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver does not exist In-Reply-To: <6684204.SHBSYotn9V@rachael> References: <6684204.SHBSYotn9V@rachael> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Mark Fraser wrote: > On Friday 27 Dec 2013 08:17:47 David L wrote: > > > In 13.04, it was working fine from cron. Now it works from a terminal in > > the local X session, but not from a remote ssh session or from cron. It > > gives this error now from ssh: > > > > Service 'org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver' does not exist. > > > > Any ideas how I can get it working again? > > Dave, > Does the solution offered here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314989 > help you? > The solution there was for a problem with unlocking... and in fact I was already using something like that for unlocking. My unlockscreen script looks like this: #!/bin/bash export DISPLAY=:0.0 export PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin:$PATH qdbus | perl -ne 'qx/kquitapp $1/ if /(kscreenlocker_greet-\d+)/' If my kids finish their chores, I can unlock the screen from my office through ssh using that script (which still works fine in 13.10). The problem is that once it's unlocked, it stays unlocked forever (that's how long my kids would play minecraft ;) ) until I go over to the family room and lock it. Thanks, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[1] > > FWIW using GParted the OP would have been warned when moving a > partition. > > [1] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2013-December/058817.html > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I've used boot-repair to fix grub issues. I'm using mbr. Robert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Sat Dec 28 18:34:29 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:34:29 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: , <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux>, Message-ID: I did do the boot repair, but if i start up i see Lubuntu logo and next a stripe up and down. Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:26:35 -0600 Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe From: webguytx at gmail.com To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com On Dec 27, 2013 3:09 AM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 13:50 -0600, theuteck at gmail.com wrote: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair > > I discourage anybody to use such a strange tool and instead to follow my > advice [1] to do it the good old Linux KISS principle way. Btw. this > thingy seems to work with MBR only. > > In addition the OP didn't give enough information and the posted message > doesn't lead to a moved boot partition issue. We even do not know if the > OP is using GRUB. > > I asked the OP "What did you make with the free space, after deleting > the partition?" [1] > > FWIW using GParted the OP would have been warned when moving a > partition. > > [1] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2013-December/058817.html > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users I've used boot-repair to fix grub issues. I'm using mbr. Robert -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sat Dec 28 19:05:11 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:05:11 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: , <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> , Message-ID: <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 19:34 +0100, Dennis M wrote: > I did do the boot repair, but if i start up i see Lubuntu logo and > next a stripe up and down. As the links I posted mention, it's likely a graphics issue. Take a look at the log files. e.g. run # grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log or # less /var/log/Xorg.0.log if the grep command doesn't show an error. What graphics driver are you using? FWIW Linux provides messages during startup, it's stupid to use a splash thingy with a logo. I would remove it from the grub entry or at least push Esc or a F-Key or whatever disables displaying the logo. It was also not wise to use some obscure GUI based repairing tool, because this will remove the advantage of Linux, to get information about what's going on. However, nobody on this list has got a crystal ball, without information we only could assume what might be the culprit. "a stripe up and down" isn't good information. A good way to start understanding Linux and what to post to a list might be this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles . From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sat Dec 28 19:15:29 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:15:29 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: , <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> , Message-ID: <1388258129.1062.59.camel@archlinux> Consider to make a backup, before you continue repairing your install. From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Sat Dec 28 21:22:00 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:22:00 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> References: ,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux>,, , , <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: The log i openend was 'less' and i see all numbers 177.039 and text like 'X Protocol Version 11' I have a garaphic card onboard, the Intel MGA 940. I made a back-up on the Linux hdd but there was too little space, so i formated the Windows partition. I wanted to copy Some files to the partition, the sda5 with Lubuntu is full. Mayby i can copy some folders by the Terminal to the other partition? Thaks all for the help > Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe > From: kde.lists at yahoo.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:05:11 +0100 > > On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 19:34 +0100, Dennis M wrote: > > I did do the boot repair, but if i start up i see Lubuntu logo and > > next a stripe up and down. > > As the links I posted mention, it's likely a graphics issue. Take a look > at the log files. e.g. run > > # grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > or > > # less /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > if the grep command doesn't show an error. > > What graphics driver are you using? > > FWIW Linux provides messages during startup, it's stupid to use a splash > thingy with a logo. I would remove it from the grub entry or at least > push Esc or a F-Key or whatever disables displaying the logo. > > It was also not wise to use some obscure GUI based repairing tool, > because this will remove the advantage of Linux, to get information > about what's going on. > > However, nobody on this list has got a crystal ball, without information > we only could assume what might be the culprit. > > "a stripe up and down" isn't good information. > > A good way to start understanding Linux and what to post to a list might > be this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles . > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sat Dec 28 22:35:15 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 23:35:15 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: ,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> ,, , , <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> Hi Dennis 1. It's important to know, how you access your Lubuntu at the moment. E.g. by a live CD, in other words from a another Linux? Or perhaps by booting it, but without assessing a desktop environment? Become root and then: 2. Regarding to your "display" issue, please post the complete output of grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt 3. Regarding to find a way to backup you Lubuntu, please post the complete output of parted -l > parted.txt 4. and please post the complete output of df -h > df.txt 5. The output you should post is in the files grep.txt parted.txt df.txt Regards, Ralf From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Sun Dec 29 00:33:00 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 01:33:00 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> References: ,,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux>,,, ,, ,, <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux>, , <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: Hi Ralf, 1. Acces by the recovery mode 'root' terminal. 2. grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt The system doesn't function anymore, i can type but nothing happens. 3. parted -l > parted.txt See attacment, i made a picture because i can't copy the text to mail. 4. df -h > df.txt See also attachment. Regards, Dennis > Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe > From: kde.lists at yahoo.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 23:35:15 +0100 > > Hi Dennis > > 1. > > It's important to know, how you access your Lubuntu at the moment. > > E.g. by a live CD, in other words from a another Linux? Or perhaps by > booting it, but without assessing a desktop environment? > > Become root and then: > > 2. > > Regarding to your "display" issue, please post the complete output of > > grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt > > 3. > > Regarding to find a way to backup you Lubuntu, please post the complete > output of > > parted -l > parted.txt > > 4. > > and please post the complete output of > > df -h > df.txt > > 5. > > The output you should post is in the files > grep.txt > parted.txt > df.txt > > Regards, > Ralf > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Dec 29 00:41:34 2013 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:41:34 -0800 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: Dennis, it looks like attachments aren't allowed on this list. Can you place your content somewhere on the web and send links? Perhaps http://paste.kde.org with a long persistance. -v On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Dennis M wrote: > Hi Ralf, > > 1. Acces by the recovery mode 'root' terminal. > > 2. grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt > The system doesn't function anymore, i can type but nothing happens. > > 3. parted -l > parted.txt > See attacment, i made a picture because i can't copy the text to mail. > > 4. df -h > df.txt > See also attachment. > > Regards, Dennis > > >> Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe >> From: kde.lists at yahoo.com >> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 23:35:15 +0100 > >> >> Hi Dennis >> >> 1. >> >> It's important to know, how you access your Lubuntu at the moment. >> >> E.g. by a live CD, in other words from a another Linux? Or perhaps by >> booting it, but without assessing a desktop environment? >> >> Become root and then: >> >> 2. >> >> Regarding to your "display" issue, please post the complete output of >> >> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt >> >> 3. >> >> Regarding to find a way to backup you Lubuntu, please post the complete >> output of >> >> parted -l > parted.txt >> >> 4. >> >> and please post the complete output of >> >> df -h > df.txt >> >> 5. >> >> The output you should post is in the files >> grep.txt >> parted.txt >> df.txt >> >> Regards, >> Ralf >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- http://about.me/valoriez From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Dec 29 06:17:27 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 07:17:27 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: ,,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> ,,, ,, ,, <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> , , <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: <1388297847.1062.97.camel@archlinux> My apologize if this mail should come two times through the list. I resend it without waiting, because even a Bcc didn't reach me. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ralf Mardorf To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 07:06:18 +0100 Mailer: Evolution 3.10.3 On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 01:33 +0100, Dennis M wrote: > 1. Acces by the recovery mode 'root' terminal. > > 2. grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt > The system doesn't function anymore, i can type but nothing happens. The "> grep.txt" does redirect the output to the text file. > 3. parted -l > parted.txt > See attacment, i made a picture because i can't copy the text to mail. > > 4. df -h > df.txt > See also attachment. And it worked for those commands? Valorie already mentions, pictures seemingly don't come through the list, please post them somewhere else and send the links to the list. Perhaps you can't post pictures at http://pastebin.kde.org/ , if so then try something else, e.g. http://picpaste.com/ . Regards, Ralf From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Sun Dec 29 21:37:57 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:37:57 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: <1388297847.1062.97.camel@archlinux> References: ,,,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux>,,,, ,,, ,,, <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux>,, ,, <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux>, , <1388297847.1062.97.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: Hello and thanks, 1. Now i booted with the Lubuntu cd: 2. grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt The terminal in Lubuntu start cd didn't react anymore after the code. 3. parted -l > I upload a picture: http://picpaste.com/image-kdjtYRtu.jpg 4. df -h > I upload a picture: http://picpaste.com/image-rygaYYtx.jpg Regards, Dennis > Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe > From: kde.lists at yahoo.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 07:17:27 +0100 > > My apologize if this mail should come two times through the list. > I resend it without waiting, because even a Bcc didn't reach me. > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Ralf Mardorf > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe > Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 07:06:18 +0100 > Mailer: Evolution 3.10.3 > > On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 01:33 +0100, Dennis M wrote: > > > 1. Acces by the recovery mode 'root' terminal. > > > > 2. grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt > > The system doesn't function anymore, i can type but nothing happens. > > The "> grep.txt" does redirect the output to the text file. > > > 3. parted -l > parted.txt > > See attacment, i made a picture because i can't copy the text to mail. > > > > 4. df -h > df.txt > > See also attachment. > > And it worked for those commands? > > Valorie already mentions, pictures seemingly don't come through the > list, please post them somewhere else and send the links to the list. > > Perhaps you can't post pictures at http://pastebin.kde.org/ , if so then > try something else, e.g. http://picpaste.com/ . > > Regards, > Ralf > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kde.lists at yahoo.com Mon Dec 30 12:40:18 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:40:18 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: References: ,,,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> ,,,, ,,, ,,, <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> ,, ,, <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> , , <1388297847.1062.97.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: <1388407218.689.19.camel@archlinux> On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 22:37 +0100, Dennis M wrote: > Hello and thanks, > 1. Now i booted with the Lubuntu cd: > 2. grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt grep EE /MOUNT_POINT/OF/INSTALLED/LUBUNTU/var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt > The terminal in Lubuntu start cd didn't react anymore after the code. > 3. parted -l > I upload a picture: > http://picpaste.com/image-kdjtYRtu.jpg > 4. df -h > I upload a picture: http://picpaste.com/image-rygaYYtx.jpg A backup should be possible, even without compressing the data by e.g. tar.gz.. But note, /dev/sda5, seemingly your Lubuntu, has got no free space and can't work correctly anymore. Next time please post in English ;). Use LANG=C to temporarily disable your native language. "$ LANG=C ls /nonexistent ls: cannot access /nonexistent: No such file or directory $ ls /nonexistent ls: kan geen toegang krijgen tot /nonexistent: Bestand of map bestaat niet" - http://askubuntu.com/questions/142812/temporarily-change-language-for-terminal-messages-warnings-errors I don't have time to help you within the next days, maybe you can use https://startpage.com/ and do some homework yourself. I'm willing to help you ASAP, likely in January, but try to figure out some things on your own. From kde.lists at yahoo.com Mon Dec 30 13:26:14 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:26:14 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: <1388407218.689.19.camel@archlinux> References: ,,,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> ,,,, ,,, ,,, <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> ,, ,, <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> , , <1388297847.1062.97.camel@archlinux> <1388407218.689.19.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: <1388409974.689.22.camel@archlinux> Just a guess. Could it be, that when you tried to backup your Lubuntu to the primary partition, you only copied to a folder inside your Lubuntu, because you missed to mount the primary partition? IOW the mount point was not interpreted as a a mount point, but just as a "normal" folder. From kde.lists at yahoo.com Mon Dec 30 13:32:29 2013 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:32:29 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: <1388409974.689.22.camel@archlinux> References: ,,,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux> ,,,, ,,, ,,, <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux> ,, ,, <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux> , , <1388297847.1062.97.camel@archlinux> <1388407218.689.19.camel@archlinux> <1388409974.689.22.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: <1388410349.689.26.camel@archlinux> On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 14:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Just a guess. Could it be, that when you tried to backup your Lubuntu to > the primary partition, you only copied to a folder inside your Lubuntu, > because you missed to mount the primary partition? IOW the mount point > was not interpreted as a a mount point, but just as a "normal" folder. PS: Btw. copy/backup your Lubuntu by using a live media, not while the install is running! You can't do that, at least not by usual methods. Please, search the web for this yourself. There are lots of good infos available and keywords like "backup", "Linux" aren't secrets a newbie is unable to know. Self-responsibility! Linux isn't Windows! Regards, Ralf From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Mon Dec 30 18:51:59 2013 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:51:59 +0000 Subject: apt-get error Message-ID: <544329.857078509-sendEmail@xpresso> Just a bit ago, I tried to do an apt-get update/upgrade, and got the following error message: Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en Fetched 388 B in 3s (122 B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D258A9281AF466B2 I tried checking the files in /etc/apt, in order to comment it out and try again, but I couldn't find a reference to launchpad in any of them. I'm sure I'm missing something, but what/were is it? TIA Bill From clay at claydoh.com Mon Dec 30 19:26:17 2013 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:26:17 -0500 Subject: apt-get error In-Reply-To: <544329.857078509-sendEmail@xpresso> References: <544329.857078509-sendEmail@xpresso> Message-ID: <1682575.bT48JjWJbA@lark-latitude-d630> On Monday, December 30, 2013 06:51:59 PM kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org wrote: > Just a bit ago, I tried to do an apt-get update/upgrade, > and got the following error message: > > Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en > Fetched 388 B in 3s (122 B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: > The following signatures couldn't be verified because > the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY D258A9281AF466B2 > > I tried checking the files in /etc/apt, in order to > comment it out and try again, but I couldn't find > a reference to launchpad in any of them. I'm sure I'm > missing something, but what/were is it? > > TIA > > Bill For whatever reason, a ppa you added did not add the GPG public key that goes with it. sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys D258A9281AF466B2 -- Clay Weber (claydoh) http://kubuntuforums.net http://claydoh.com From theuteck at gmail.com Mon Dec 30 22:19:17 2013 From: theuteck at gmail.com (theuteck at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 16:19:17 -0600 Subject: apt-get error In-Reply-To: <544329.857078509-sendEmail@xpresso> References: <544329.857078509-sendEmail@xpresso> Message-ID: <2277854.vnZuqWnYL6@allmine> Did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ On Monday, December 30, 2013 06:51:59 PM kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org wrote: > Just a bit ago, I tried to do an apt-get update/upgrade, > and got the following error message: > > Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en_US > Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Translation-en > Fetched 388 B in 3s (122 B/s) > Reading package lists... Done > W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: > The following signatures couldn't be verified because > the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY D258A9281AF466B2 > > I tried checking the files in /etc/apt, in order to > comment it out and try again, but I couldn't find > a reference to launchpad in any of them. I'm sure I'm > missing something, but what/were is it? > > TIA > > Bill From frankie-1 at hotmail.nl Tue Dec 31 01:03:35 2013 From: frankie-1 at hotmail.nl (Dennis M) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 02:03:35 +0100 Subject: Could not write bytes: broken pipe In-Reply-To: <1388407218.689.19.camel@archlinux> References: ,,,,, <2551896.qJSyoypk6X@allmine> <1388135277.655.18.camel@archlinux>,,,,, ,,,, ,,,, <1388257511.1062.58.camel@archlinux>,,, ,,, <1388270115.1062.82.camel@archlinux>,, ,, <1388297847.1062.97.camel@archlinux>, , <1388407218.689.19.camel@archlinux> Message-ID: Ok i try the new command for 2. grep EE /MOUNT_POINT/OF/INSTALLED/LUBUNTU/var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt A usb stick for back-up is what i'm gonne try. /dev/sda5 is indeed my Linux partition, i put too much data from another back-up on it.... Post in English is good, i understand that Dutch is difficult, but is it understandeble? I try to change the language temp. I search for myself also but the English and the system Linux is not always easy for me. If i had a friend who does know a lot it should be a lot more easy.. Thanks for the help and a happy new year for all. Regards, Dennis > Subject: Re: Could not write bytes: broken pipe > From: kde.lists at yahoo.com > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:40:18 +0100 > > On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 22:37 +0100, Dennis M wrote: > > Hello and thanks, > > 1. Now i booted with the Lubuntu cd: > > 2. grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt > > grep EE /MOUNT_POINT/OF/INSTALLED/LUBUNTU/var/log/Xorg.0.log > grep.txt > > > The terminal in Lubuntu start cd didn't react anymore after the code. > > 3. parted -l > I upload a picture: > > http://picpaste.com/image-kdjtYRtu.jpg > > > 4. df -h > I upload a picture: http://picpaste.com/image-rygaYYtx.jpg > > A backup should be possible, even without compressing the data by e.g. > tar.gz.. > > But note, /dev/sda5, seemingly your Lubuntu, has got no free space and > can't work correctly anymore. > > Next time please post in English ;). > > Use LANG=C to temporarily disable your native language. > > "$ LANG=C ls /nonexistent > ls: cannot access /nonexistent: No such file or directory > $ ls /nonexistent > ls: kan geen toegang krijgen tot /nonexistent: Bestand of map bestaat > niet" > > - > http://askubuntu.com/questions/142812/temporarily-change-language-for-terminal-messages-warnings-errors > > I don't have time to help you within the next days, maybe you can use > https://startpage.com/ and do some homework yourself. I'm willing to > help you ASAP, likely in January, but try to figure out some things on > your own. > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From idht4n at gmail.com Tue Dec 31 03:14:35 2013 From: idht4n at gmail.com (David L) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:14:35 -0800 Subject: org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver does not exist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:17 AM, David L wrote: > I just upgraded to 13.10 and a script that used to work for me stopped > working. The script looks like this: > > #!/bin/bash > export DISPLAY=:0.0 > export PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin:$PATH > qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock > > > In 13.04, it was working fine from cron. Now it works from a terminal in > the local X session, but not from a remote ssh session or from cron. It > gives this error now from ssh: > > Service 'org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver' does not exist. > Not surprisingly, KDE on Mint 16 has the same problem. Is this a bug or a new feature? How do I work around the bug/feature? Thanks, David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: