From pwhite at bluewin.ch Tue Dec 2 16:13:37 2014 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:13:37 +0100 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering Message-ID: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and got kmail 4.13.3 When I reply to a mail from my wife using "reply to" my address is inserted instead of hers. I have been using kmail for a long time and never observed this behaviour before. If I use "reply to Author" her address is inserted, normal , and if I reply to a another person (not my wife) the correct address is inserted. I checked the long header in my wife's mail and the return path points correctly to her mailbox. I found Bug#343348: kmail: Answer to a mail is send to a wrong address, but that bug was about answering to a mailing list and not very helpful. Any hints ? Cheers Perry -- BOFH excuse #392: It's union rules. There's nothing we can do about it. Sorry. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Dec 2 21:35:47 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 15:35:47 -0600 Subject: Telephone Message-ID: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> Back in the dark ages I used to use my computer to make regular phone calls over the modem. I would dial a person number through the modem and use a headset with microphone to talk to them. My laptop has a built in modem. Is there any software to allow me to use the modem to make calls as above. Kubuntu 14.04 -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From cody.smith9202 at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 21:53:32 2014 From: cody.smith9202 at gmail.com (Cody Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 13:53:32 -0800 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> Message-ID: Billie, unless you plug your laptop specifically into a wall outlet that supports it (which from what I hear is exceedingly rare), the software you're looking for does nothing. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Back in the dark ages I used to use my computer to make regular phone > calls over the modem. I would dial a person number through the modem and > use a headset with microphone to talk to them. > > My laptop has a built in modem. Is there any software to allow me to use > the modem to make calls as above. > > Kubuntu 14.04 > > -- > “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out > on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Dec 2 22:10:52 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:10:52 -0600 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> Message-ID: <547E38EC.3040000@swbell.net> Yes. It's a modem. You plug in a standard phone line. On 12/02/2014 03:53 PM, Cody Smith wrote: > Billie, unless you plug your laptop specifically into a wall outlet > that supports it (which from what I hear is exceedingly rare), the > software you're looking for does nothing. > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Billie Walsh > wrote: > > Back in the dark ages I used to use my computer to make regular > phone calls over the modem. I would dial a person number through > the modem and use a headset with microphone to talk to them. > > My laptop has a built in modem. Is there any software to allow me > to use the modem to make calls as above. > > Kubuntu 14.04 > > -- > “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be > missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bnewell at clear.net.nz Wed Dec 3 01:14:15 2014 From: bnewell at clear.net.nz (Jerome B Newell) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:14:15 +1300 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547E38EC.3040000@swbell.net> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547E38EC.3040000@swbell.net> Message-ID: <547E63E7.2090400@clear.net.nz> Try gnome-ppp or kppp. We used these to control modems before we went cable. Most earlier Linux had them in the System menu. They are still available through Synaptic package manager and may also be in Software Center. On 03/12/14 11:10, Billie Walsh wrote: > Yes. It's a modem. You plug in a standard phone line. > > On 12/02/2014 03:53 PM, Cody Smith wrote: >> Billie, unless you plug your laptop specifically into a wall outlet >> that supports it (which from what I hear is exceedingly rare), the >> software you're looking for does nothing. >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Billie Walsh > > wrote: >> >> Back in the dark ages I used to use my computer to make regular >> phone calls over the modem. I would dial a person number through >> the modem and use a headset with microphone to talk to them. >> >> My laptop has a built in modem. Is there any software to allow me >> to use the modem to make calls as above. >> >> Kubuntu 14.04 >> >> -- >> “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be >> missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> > > > -- > “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 02:35:47 2014 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:35:47 +0700 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547E63E7.2090400@clear.net.nz> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547E38EC.3040000@swbell.net> <547E63E7.2090400@clear.net.nz> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Jerome B Newell wrote: > Try gnome-ppp or kppp. > We used these to control modems before we went cable. I thought ppp is to established tunnel (internet connection), not normal phone call. For normal phone call, you coud try: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wxdialer/ DK From accessys at smart.net Wed Dec 3 02:28:56 2014 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 21:28:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547E63E7.2090400@clear.net.nz> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547E38EC.3040000@swbell.net> <547E63E7.2090400@clear.net.nz> Message-ID: KPPP is loaded natively in my Kubuntu 12.4 Bob On Wed, 3 Dec 2014, Jerome B Newell wrote: > Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:14:15 +1300 > From: Jerome B Newell > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: Telephone > > Try gnome-ppp or kppp. > We used these to control modems before we went cable. > Most earlier Linux had them in the System menu. > They are still available through Synaptic package manager and may also be in > Software Center. > > > > > > On 03/12/14 11:10, Billie Walsh wrote: >> Yes. It's a modem. You plug in a standard phone line. >> >> On 12/02/2014 03:53 PM, Cody Smith wrote: >>> Billie, unless you plug your laptop specifically into a wall outlet that >>> supports it (which from what I hear is exceedingly rare), the software >>> you're looking for does nothing. >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Billie Walsh >> > wrote: >>> >>> Back in the dark ages I used to use my computer to make regular >>> phone calls over the modem. I would dial a person number through >>> the modem and use a headset with microphone to talk to them. >>> >>> My laptop has a built in modem. Is there any software to allow me >>> to use the modem to make calls as above. >>> >>> Kubuntu 14.04 >>> >>> -- �Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could >>> be >>> missing out on the joke of the century.� - Joan Rivers >>> >>> _ _... ..._ _ >>> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >>> >>> >>> -- kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> �Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out >> on the joke of the century.� - Joan Rivers >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> > > > From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Dec 3 03:24:23 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 21:24:23 -0600 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547E38EC.3040000@swbell.net> <547E63E7.2090400@clear.net.nz> Message-ID: <547E8267.6070309@swbell.net> On 12/02/2014 08:35 PM, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Jerome B Newell wrote: >> Try gnome-ppp or kppp. >> We used these to control modems before we went cable. > I thought ppp is to established tunnel (internet connection), not > normal phone call. For normal phone call, you coud try: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/wxdialer/ > > DK > wxdialer might be just what I'm looking for. Just have to figure out how to install. *<]:oD Found another possibility also. qtphone. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From clay at claydoh.com Wed Dec 3 03:57:15 2014 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 22:57:15 -0500 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547E8267.6070309@swbell.net> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547E8267.6070309@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1873329.ijOfYk0Sik@gus-latitude-d830> On Tuesday, December 02, 2014 09:24:23 PM Billie Walsh wrote: > On 12/02/2014 08:35 PM, David Kuntadi wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Jerome B Newell wrote: > >> Try gnome-ppp or kppp. > >> We used these to control modems before we went cable. > > > > I thought ppp is to established tunnel (internet connection), not > > normal phone call. For normal phone call, you coud try: > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/wxdialer/ > > > > DK > > wxdialer might be just what I'm looking for. Just have to figure out how > to install. *<]:oD > > Found another possibility also. qtphone. Might be interesting to see if these run or compile - wxdialer is python script from 2003, qtphone from 2006. -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 04:24:23 2014 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:24:23 +0700 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547E8267.6070309@swbell.net> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547E38EC.3040000@swbell.net> <547E63E7.2090400@clear.net.nz> <547E8267.6070309@swbell.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > > wxdialer might be just what I'm looking for. Just have to figure out how to > install. *<]:oD It is a portable application I think, just extract it and run it, no installation needed. DK From clay at claydoh.com Wed Dec 3 06:31:58 2014 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 01:31:58 -0500 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547E8267.6070309@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1930026.Sv9P7vWU2T@gus-latitude-d830> On Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:24:23 AM David Kuntadi wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > > wxdialer might be just what I'm looking for. Just have to figure out how > > to > > install. *<]:oD > > It is a portable application I think, just extract it and run it, no > installation needed. > > DK Sort of - it is a python script, but it is looking for a wxpython (the gui bits it needs) version that no longer exists, as in a version for an ancient version of python 2. The current versions of wxpython (python-wxgtk3.0 and python-wxgtk2.8) don't seem to work. The script complains about a missing or broken wxpython. Some python coder could probably get it running, I am sure. -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From pwhite at bluewin.ch Wed Dec 3 10:21:28 2014 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:21:28 +0100 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: <7235130.C99oAVq4QY@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Le mardi, 2 décembre 2014, 17.13:37 Perry a écrit : > Hi, > > > I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and got kmail 4.13.3 > > When I reply to a mail from my wife using "reply to" my address is inserted > instead of hers. I have been using kmail for a long time and never observed > this behaviour before. > If I use "reply to Author" her address is inserted, normal , and if I reply > to a another person (not my wife) the correct address is inserted. > > I checked the long header in my wife's mail and the return path points > correctly to her mailbox. > > I found Bug#343348: kmail: Answer to a mail is send to a wrong address, > but that bug was about answering to a mailing list and not very helpful. > > Any hints ? > > Cheers Perry Hi, [replying to myself to keep the thread and add some info] What is special with my wife email is that her identity, POP and IMAP accounts are written in Kmail, so that she can also work on my machine. As I also have a gmail account I sent myself at "... at bluewin.ch" a message from "... at gmail.com" and tried to reply to it. There again my address at bluewin appeared in the "to" field of the reply. Further trials : I removed my wife's account and the behaviour was normal again, her address was inserted in the "to" field when I "replied to". Abnormal behaviour was there again when I reintroduced my wife's account. Cheers Perry -- BOFH excuse #416: We're out of slots on the server From steve at rileyz.net Wed Dec 3 18:35:28 2014 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:35:28 -0800 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <7235130.C99oAVq4QY@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <7235130.C99oAVq4QY@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: <2078150.8p1gTBdoWI@t520> On 2014-12-03 at 11:21:28, Perry wrote: > > What is special with my wife email is that her identity, POP and IMAP > accounts are written in Kmail, so that she can also work on my machine. > > As I also have a gmail account I sent myself at "... at bluewin.ch" a message > from "... at gmail.com" and tried to reply to it. There again my address at > bluewin appeared in the "to" field of the reply. > > Further trials : > I removed my wife's account and the behaviour was normal again, her address > was inserted in the "to" field when I "replied to". > Abnormal behaviour was there again when I reintroduced my wife's account. When using muliple identities and accounts, you need to set up the correct associations. All of this is in the Configure Kmail dialog. * For each receiving account, go to the Advanced tab and select the corresponding identity. * You should also have a distinct sending account that correlates with each appropriate receiving account. * Then for each identity, go to the Advanced tab and select the corresponding outgoing (sending) account for that identity. ...Steve From sdubois at linux.com Thu Dec 4 02:43:21 2014 From: sdubois at linux.com (Scott DuBois) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:43:21 -0800 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> Message-ID: <547FCA49.3060206@linux.com> On 12/02/2014 01:35 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Back in the dark ages I used to use my computer to make regular phone > calls over the modem. I would dial a person number through the modem and > use a headset with microphone to talk to them. I remember those days my friend. I used to call from California to Arkansas through my computer. It was awkward because the computer couldn't accept voice and produce sound at the same time so we had to talk in shifts like old school walkie talkies. Anyway, I found this site which might do what you want: https://dot.kde.org/2012/08/21/sflphone-kde-client-joins-kde-family -- Scott DuBois BSIT President EBLUG Freenode: Roguehorse From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Dec 4 03:36:47 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:36:47 -0600 Subject: Telephone In-Reply-To: <547FCA49.3060206@linux.com> References: <547E30B3.2060009@swbell.net> <547FCA49.3060206@linux.com> Message-ID: <547FD6CF.5040603@swbell.net> On 12/03/2014 08:43 PM, Scott DuBois wrote: > On 12/02/2014 01:35 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> Back in the dark ages I used to use my computer to make regular phone >> calls over the modem. I would dial a person number through the modem and >> use a headset with microphone to talk to them. > I remember those days my friend. I used to call from California to > Arkansas through my computer. It was awkward because the computer > couldn't accept voice and produce sound at the same time so we had to > talk in shifts like old school walkie talkies. Anyway, I found this site > which might do what you want: > > https://dot.kde.org/2012/08/21/sflphone-kde-client-joins-kde-family > I looked at that one. There's something about having to have a "SIP" or "AIX" account to make/receive calls through. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 7 05:20:10 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:20:10 -0600 Subject: Installing Grub Message-ID: <5483E38A.2060708@swbell.net> I upgraded to a newer laptop. I had replaced my old laptops harddrive some time back so that the one in the laptop had Kubuntu on it. The old Windows drive was in an external case. My new laptop has a place for a second hard drive. I took the Kubuntu drive out of the old laptop and put it in the external case. The new laptop booted just fine from the external. I have a cable ordered to put the drive in the new laptop. Once I do that I need to figure out how to get Grub updated to dual boot. I know that if I can get it booted into Kubuntu I can do it but not being any kind of command line user I don't know the command. Open for any suggestions. I know. I usually wouldn't dual boot but this laptop has capabilities that I need that I can't do with Linux. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From clay at claydoh.com Sun Dec 7 05:50:15 2014 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 00:50:15 -0500 Subject: Installing Grub In-Reply-To: <5483E38A.2060708@swbell.net> References: <5483E38A.2060708@swbell.net> Message-ID: <1893116.2DCaNc88r1@gus-latitude-d830> On Saturday, December 06, 2014 11:20:10 PM Billie Walsh wrote: > I upgraded to a newer laptop. I had replaced my old laptops harddrive > some time back so that the one in the laptop had Kubuntu on it. The old > Windows drive was in an external case. My new laptop has a place for a > second hard drive. I took the Kubuntu drive out of the old laptop and > put it in the external case. The new laptop booted just fine from the > external. > > I have a cable ordered to put the drive in the new laptop. Once I do > that I need to figure out how to get Grub updated to dual boot. I know > that if I can get it booted into Kubuntu I can do it but not being any > kind of command line user I don't know the command. > > Open for any suggestions. > > I know. I usually wouldn't dual boot but this laptop has capabilities > that I need that I can't do with Linux. If you can select which drive to boot from initially, this might be all you need to do to get to Kubuntu and run $ sudo update-grub to have it detect and add Windows to your boot menu. Some options that might get you going fairly easily if the above does not work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I am not sure if UEFI will cause an issue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From pwhite at bluewin.ch Sun Dec 7 11:25:24 2014 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:25:24 +0100 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <2078150.8p1gTBdoWI@t520> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <7235130.C99oAVq4QY@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <2078150.8p1gTBdoWI@t520> Message-ID: <2045196.Bu5lQtXUI3@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Le mercredi, 3 décembre 2014, 10.35:28 Steve Riley a écrit : > On 2014-12-03 at 11:21:28, Perry wrote: > > What is special with my wife email is that her identity, POP and IMAP > > accounts are written in Kmail, so that she can also work on my machine. > > > > As I also have a gmail account I sent myself at "... at bluewin.ch" a message > > from "... at gmail.com" and tried to reply to it. There again my address at > > bluewin appeared in the "to" field of the reply. > > > > Further trials : > > I removed my wife's account and the behaviour was normal again, her > > address > > was inserted in the "to" field when I "replied to". > > Abnormal behaviour was there again when I reintroduced my wife's account. > Hi Steve, thanks for answering but I believe I have the settings as you mention > When using muliple identities and accounts, you need to set up the correct > associations. All of this is in the Configure Kmail dialog. The identities on this computer are : Perry(by default) Perry or Sxxx Sxxx (...or the gmail stuff) > > * For each receiving account, go to the Advanced tab and select the > corresponding identity. There is no such field in the advanced tab, but in the General tab I have as user name pwhite at bluewin.ch or sxxxyyy at bluewin.ch or ... > * You should also have a distinct sending account that correlates with each > appropriate receiving account. I guess the correlation is because the electronic address in the identities match the user name in the receiving account > * Then for each identity, go to the Advanced tab and select the > corresponding outgoing (sending) account for that identity. same thing goes for the sending account. I can take any identities for sending or receiving and it works as expected in most cases, for example : replying to your mail would write in the "to" field either kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com or Kubuntu user technical support , depending on whether I use"reply in diffusion list" or just "reply" and I can also "reply to Author" and have your address written in the "to" field I made a variation on the experiment I described on Wednesday, I sent a mail using my wife's account to my gmail address, fetched it and used "reply" on it, the *odd* result was my gmail address in the "to" field. Using "reply to author" correctly wrote my wife's address. (In both cases my identity was automatically set as the gmail user, which seems logical.) I must conclude that on using "reply" Kmail mixes up the original sender address with that associated to the identity of the person who replies, but only if those are both configured in Kmail, and to me it looks as a bug. Did I miss anything you can spot ? Greetings Perry P.S. Steve, I did try to answer earlier, the above text was sent Friday but it didn't appear in my ubuntu mail. I am sending it again from my "sent messages" using "re-expedite" (translated from french, may not be the exact wording) > > ...Steve -- BOFH excuse #248: Too much radiation coming from the soil From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 7 12:26:36 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 06:26:36 -0600 Subject: Installing Grub In-Reply-To: <1893116.2DCaNc88r1@gus-latitude-d830> References: <5483E38A.2060708@swbell.net> <1893116.2DCaNc88r1@gus-latitude-d830> Message-ID: <5484477C.9080506@swbell.net> On 12/06/2014 11:50 PM, Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday, December 06, 2014 11:20:10 PM Billie Walsh wrote: >> I upgraded to a newer laptop. I had replaced my old laptops harddrive >> some time back so that the one in the laptop had Kubuntu on it. The old >> Windows drive was in an external case. My new laptop has a place for a >> second hard drive. I took the Kubuntu drive out of the old laptop and >> put it in the external case. The new laptop booted just fine from the >> external. >> >> I have a cable ordered to put the drive in the new laptop. Once I do >> that I need to figure out how to get Grub updated to dual boot. I know >> that if I can get it booted into Kubuntu I can do it but not being any >> kind of command line user I don't know the command. >> >> Open for any suggestions. >> >> I know. I usually wouldn't dual boot but this laptop has capabilities >> that I need that I can't do with Linux. > If you can select which drive to boot from initially, this might be all you > need to do to get to Kubuntu and run > $ sudo update-grub > to have it detect and add Windows to your boot menu. > > Some options that might get you going fairly easily if the above does not > work: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows > > I am not sure if UEFI will cause an issue > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI > > > Thank you. I knew the command was something along those lines but wasn't sure. There is a way to choose which drive to boot from in the Bios [ I guess it's there ]. Booting into the Kubuntu drive shouldn't be an issue. I beat UEFI on one desktop that I had no intention of dual booting by installing Kubuntu on a hard drive on another computer then moving to the one I wanted to use it in. Kubuntu, and I suppose Linux in general, is very portable that way. The Kubuntu drive I took from my Gateway dual core and booted on my HP Quad core didn't even blink. Booted up and ran with no issues. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From steve at rileyz.net Sun Dec 7 17:45:24 2014 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2014 09:45:24 -0800 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <2045196.Bu5lQtXUI3@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <2078150.8p1gTBdoWI@t520> <2045196.Bu5lQtXUI3@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> On 2014-12-07 at 12:25:24, Perry wrote: > > thanks for answering but I believe I have the settings as you mention > > > When using muliple identities and accounts, you need to set up the correct > > associations. All of this is in the Configure Kmail dialog. > > The identities on this computer are : > Perry(by default) Perry or > Sxxx Sxxx (...or the gmail stuff) Sounds good so far. > > * For each receiving account, go to the Advanced tab and select the > > corresponding identity. > > There is no such field in the advanced tab, but in the General tab I have as > user name pwhite at bluewin.ch or sxxxyyy at bluewin.ch or ... Hm. What version of KMail are you using? I have three identities on my system. One is called Steve-RileyZ. I've associated that identity with a similarly named receiving account, as you can see in this screenshot (receiving account, Advanced tab): http://i.imgur.com/6jtvgAX.png > > * You should also have a distinct sending account that correlates with > > each > > appropriate receiving account. > > I guess the correlation is because the electronic address in the identities > match the user name in the receiving account No, I'm not sure KMail is smart enough do this. That's why these facilities exist to link accounts and identities. See next answer for sending account. > > * Then for each identity, go to the Advanced tab and select the > > corresponding outgoing (sending) account for that identity. > > same thing goes for the sending account. Continuing my example, I also have a sending account with the same Steve- RileyZ name. I've associated that sending account with my identity, as you can see in this screenshot (identity, Advanced tab): http://i.imgur.com/ltyMIBY.png > Did I miss anything you can spot ? Take a look at my screenshots and see if you can duplicate similar settings. Let me know how it works for you. ...Steve From pwhite at bluewin.ch Mon Dec 8 16:47:12 2014 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:47:12 +0100 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <2045196.Bu5lQtXUI3@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> Message-ID: <1692212.b2v8EXDx2v@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Le dimanche, 7 décembre 2014, 09.45:24 Steve Riley a écrit : > On 2014-12-07 at 12:25:24, Perry wrote: > > thanks for answering but I believe I have the settings as you mention [snip] > > There is no such field in the advanced tab, but in the General tab I have > > as user name pwhite at bluewin.ch or sxxxyyy at bluewin.ch or ... > > Hm. What version of KMail are you using? I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and got kmail 4.13.3 > [snip] > > I guess the correlation is because the electronic address in the > > identities > > match the user name in the receiving account > > No, I'm not sure KMail is smart enough do this. That's why these facilities > exist to link accounts and identities. See next answer for sending account. OK, I can link sending to an identity in the advanced tab (or manually by "sending via"). For the Pop I select "fetch the mail in..." > > > > * Then for each identity, go to the Advanced tab and select the > > > corresponding outgoing (sending) account for that identity. OK > > > > same thing goes for the sending account. ????? > > Continuing my example, I also have a sending account with the same Steve- > RileyZ name. I've associated that sending account with my identity, as you > can see in this screenshot (identity, Advanced tab): > http://i.imgur.com/ltyMIBY.png > > > Did I miss anything you can spot ? > > Take a look at my screenshots and see if you can duplicate similar settings. > Let me know how it works for you. Thanks Steve, I added the checkmark and selected the outgoing accounts for each identities ( I used to specify as I was "sending via") give me time to experiment (a couple of days because I'm busy tommorow). Perry -- BOFH excuse #388: Bad user karma From pwhite at bluewin.ch Wed Dec 10 11:43:39 2014 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:43:39 +0100 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <2045196.Bu5lQtXUI3@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> Message-ID: <13518321.RNvn0NFvz8@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Le dimanche, 7 décembre 2014, 09.45:24 Steve Riley a écrit : > On 2014-12-07 at 12:25:24, Perry wrote: > > thanks for answering but I believe I have the settings as you mention > > > > > When using muliple identities and accounts, you need to set up the > > > correct > > > associations. All of this is in the Configure Kmail dialog. > > > > The identities on this computer are : > > Perry(by default) Perry or > > Sxxx Sxxx (...or the gmail stuff) > > Sounds good so far. > > > > * For each receiving account, go to the Advanced tab and select the > > > corresponding identity. > > > > There is no such field in the advanced tab, but in the General tab I have > > as user name pwhite at bluewin.ch or sxxxyyy at bluewin.ch or ... > > Hm. What version of KMail are you using? I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and got kmail 4.13.3 > > I have three identities on my system. One is called Steve-RileyZ. I've > associated that identity with a similarly named receiving account, as you > can see in this screenshot (receiving account, Advanced tab): > http://i.imgur.com/6jtvgAX.png Thanks for the pictures, but mine look completely different, perhaps because I'm using Pop and SMTP instead of Imap The only relevant lines in the Pop dialogue (general tab) are the name of the account, which appears to be arbitrary but is used to retrieve the mail from the account, and the username, which is the corresponding electronic address. To be explicit, for gmail I have an identity of "GMen", the username is xxx at gmail.com, the Pop account is named "GPop" and the SMTP is "GSMTP" Thanks to your advice I associated the identities with the corresponding sending accounts, but there is no way to replicate this for the receiving accounts. Actually the only things in common to the identities, the receiving and the sending accounts are the electronic addresses, named "electronic addresse" in the identities dialogues and "username" in the Pop or SMTP dialogues. > > > > * You should also have a distinct sending account that correlates with > > > each > > > appropriate receiving account. > > > > I guess the correlation is because the electronic address in the > > identities > > match the user name in the receiving account > > No, I'm not sure KMail is smart enough do this. That's why these facilities > exist to link accounts and identities. See next answer for sending account. What is my identity ? For gmail, if it isn't "xxx at gmail.com" it can only be "GMen", which appears in the column "name of the identity", but there are no such fields in the Pop or SMTP dialogs. Do you think it is the "names of the accounts" that should match "the names of the identities", understand I should rename both my gmail Pop and SMTP accounts "GMen" instead of "GPop" and "GSMTP" ? > > > > * Then for each identity, go to the Advanced tab and select the > > > corresponding outgoing (sending) account for that identity. Great, now if I'm writing as GMen I don't have to use "send via...", Kmail knows what to do if I just use "send". > > > > same thing goes for the sending account. ???? > > Continuing my example, I also have a sending account with the same Steve- > RileyZ name. I've associated that sending account with my identity, as you > can see in this screenshot (identity, Advanced tab): > http://i.imgur.com/ltyMIBY.png > > > Did I miss anything you can spot ? > > Take a look at my screenshots and see if you can duplicate similar settings. > Let me know how it works for you. For sending it is OK, I can take a different identity when I write, which is the only way I can take a different identity than the default. For receiving I can't duplicate your settings but I just have to open the correct Pop account. I don't think Kmail needs to know anything else. I tried to change the default identity and got a symmetrical results. A new mail opens with this identity but a reply to a mail opens with the identity to which the original mail was sent, clever enough. What remained wrong was that on using "reply" Kmail still mixes up the original sender address with that associated to the identity of the person who replies, but only if those are both configured in Kmail. ...Perry > > > ...Steve -- BOFH excuse #397: T1's congested due to porn traffic to the news server From pwhite at bluewin.ch Wed Dec 10 12:27:58 2014 From: pwhite at bluewin.ch (Perry) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 13:27:58 +0100 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <2045196.Bu5lQtXUI3@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> Message-ID: <2960012.2TV3iPakkr@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Hi again, For sure I Googled before writing, but today I had more luck. With the search string "kmail bug multiple identities" if found bug 297912....https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297912 and bug 279504....https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279504 which is even more pertinent to my case. I posted a comment on that page with the tip: Tip : do not use "reply" but "reply to author" instead Greetings Perry -- BOFH excuse #205: Quantum dynamics are affecting the transistors From buzzmandt at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 22:40:30 2014 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:40:30 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Kubuntu dev, 15.04, apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove kde-window-manager kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kdegames-data khelpcenter4 klipper kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs libkactivities-bin libkdegames6 any suggestions or just wait longer? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From steve at rileyz.net Sat Dec 20 05:53:46 2014 From: steve at rileyz.net (Steve Riley) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:53:46 -0800 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <2960012.2TV3iPakkr@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> <1628066.DZzP57y18l@t520> <2960012.2TV3iPakkr@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: <2885449.P0KLtGT4EB@t520> On 2014-12-10 at 13:27:58, Perry wrote: > > With the search string "kmail bug multiple identities" if found > bug 297912....https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297912 > and bug 279504....https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279504 > which is even more pertinent to my case. > > I posted a comment on that page with the tip: > Tip : do not use "reply" but "reply to author" instead Hey, Perry. Apologies for not replying sooner. I saw in your other note that you're using POP3 rather than IMAP4. As I've never used POP3, it didn't even occur to me that there might be a difference in configuration options. I checked and you're right -- there's no way to link a POP3 account to an identity. I wonder why this is? Looks like the bug you found is a correct description, and your workaround is a good one. ...Steve From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat Dec 20 10:25:28 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 05:25:28 -0500 Subject: Serious, very serious hole in ntp announced today. In-Reply-To: <201412192151.45957.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201412192151.45957.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <201412200525.29066.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday 19 December 2014 21:51:45 Gene Heskett did opine And Gene did reply: > Greetings; > > Does anyone have an estimate on when ntp, version 4.2.8 will be > available for 10.04.4 LTS? > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Never mind, 4.2.8 tarballs to the rescue. But, it must be configured with the --enable-clockctl option to work on linux. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From myriam at kubuntu.org Sat Dec 20 13:10:06 2014 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:10:06 +0100 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dale, On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Dale Trombley wrote: > > Kubuntu dev, 15.04, apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove > kde-window-manager kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data > kdegames-data khelpcenter4 klipper kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs > libkactivities-bin libkdegames6 > > any suggestions or just wait longer? > > You are an Alpha tester, obviously, so you should always wait longer. This will probably happen again and again, it often does so with Alpha and Beta packages. And I hope you are aware that an Alpha version is not recommended for productive use. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Sat Dec 20 13:42:55 2014 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:42:55 -0600 Subject: date/time format in Vivid Message-ID: <54957CDF.8010100@lyonlabs.org> I'm testing alpha 1 of Vivid. Where is the setting for date/time format? In System Settings, I'm looking under "Regional Settings / Formats", but "Detailed Settings" only brings up region selectors. Where do I set the date and time format? I want the digital clock to show ISO 8601 date (yyyy-mm-dd) and 24-hour time. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From info at alvin.be Sat Dec 20 13:54:05 2014 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:54:05 +0100 Subject: date/time format in Vivid In-Reply-To: <54957CDF.8010100@lyonlabs.org> References: <54957CDF.8010100@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <54957F7D.80702@alvin.be> On 2014-12-20 14:42, Glenn Holmer wrote: > I'm testing alpha 1 of Vivid. Where is the setting for date/time > format? In System Settings, I'm looking under "Regional Settings / > Formats", but "Detailed Settings" only brings up region selectors. > Where do I set the date and time format? I want the digital clock to > show ISO 8601 date (yyyy-mm-dd) and 24-hour time. 14.10 with plasma5 has the same problem. I've used /etc/default/locale. Not an ideal solution though. You have to manually add locales to /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and run dpkg-reconfigure locales to add them to the system. Trying to change this from within System Settings will mess things up again. It is clear that this is actually getting attention, so I believe there will be more options in the future. (KDE 4 wasn't perfect either in this regard.) http://vizzzion.org/blog/2014/05/locale-changes-in-plasma-next/ The screenshot in that blog post clearly shows the problem. Language is set to English, but the time is "maandag" instead of "monday". From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Sat Dec 20 14:05:29 2014 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 08:05:29 -0600 Subject: menu settings in Vivid Message-ID: <54958229.6050205@lyonlabs.org> Where are the settings for the menu in Vivid alpha 1? I want to remove "Recent Applications". Also, in System Settings, "Startup and Shutdown", I've set "Desktop Session" to "Restore manually saved session", but where do I add the "Save Session" item to the menu? Both of these are currently (Plasma 4) found by right-clicking the menu button and selecting "Application Launcher Menu Settings". -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From buzzmandt at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 15:05:11 2014 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:05:11 -0500 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah been testing for about ten years. Some times I get in a hurry and want it now lol. Also wanted to know if anyone else had the same. I shall just wait longer. Thank you On Dec 20, 2014 8:10 AM, "Myriam Schweingruber" wrote: > Hi Dale, > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Dale Trombley > wrote: > >> >> Kubuntu dev, 15.04, apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove >> kde-window-manager kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data >> kdegames-data khelpcenter4 klipper kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs >> libkactivities-bin libkdegames6 >> >> any suggestions or just wait longer? >> >> You are an Alpha tester, obviously, so you should always wait longer. > This will probably happen again and again, it often does so with Alpha and > Beta packages. > > And I hope you are aware that an Alpha version is not recommended for > productive use. > > Regards, Myriam > > -- > Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: > http://www.fsfe.org > Please don't send me proprietary file formats, > use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sat Dec 20 20:49:59 2014 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 21:49:59 +0100 Subject: Off-topic: Serious, very serious hole in ntp announced today. In-Reply-To: <201412200525.29066.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <201412192151.45957.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201412200525.29066.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20141220214959.7b7f15e7@archlinux> On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 05:25:28 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Does anyone have an estimate on when ntp, version 4.2.8 will be > > available for 10.04.4 LTS? That's quite funny. On Arch Linux ntp is sane, but gnupg isn't that sane. $ pacman -Q ntp gnupg ntp 4.2.8-1 gnupg 2.1.1-1 I verified 10.04.4 LTS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for it's end of life date. "May 9, 2013 (Desktop) April 2015 (Server)" Oops. http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ntp claims 4.2.4 and http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SecurityNotice mentions 4.2.4 isn't "recommended" anymore. However, my main distro isn't Kubuntu, it's Arch and gnupg upstream mentions that GnuPG 2.0.26 is stable and 2.1 is modern ;). So what ever distro we are using, "desktop" is more important, than more serious usage and "modern" is prior being "steady as a rock". And since systemd became the init system for all major distros, I suspect that a meteorite already killed all of us computer dinos, even Mr. Torvalds isn't aware that we can't stop it. Linus Torvalds said: "I don't actually have any particularly strong opinions on systemd itself. I've had issues with some of the core developers that I think are much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility, and I think some of the design details are insane (I dislike the binary logs, for example), but those are details, not big issues." - http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/ http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/66034-systemd-again?-debian-drops-kfreebsd-as-official-architecture Old faithful *nix like operating systems aren't anymore what they still were a while ago. That started a while back, e.g. with stuff like this $ cat ~/.config/dconf/user Config files that aren't human usable anymore, followed by systemd log files that are binary. Time to use our QLs, STs etc. again ;). Regards, Ralf From gheskett at wdtv.com Sat Dec 20 21:09:17 2014 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 16:09:17 -0500 Subject: Off-topic: Serious, very serious hole in ntp announced today. In-Reply-To: <20141220214959.7b7f15e7@archlinux> References: <201412192151.45957.gheskett@wdtv.com> <201412200525.29066.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20141220214959.7b7f15e7@archlinux> Message-ID: <201412201609.17516.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday 20 December 2014 15:49:59 Ralf Mardorf did opine And Gene did reply: > On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 05:25:28 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Does anyone have an estimate on when ntp, version 4.2.8 will be > > > available for 10.04.4 LTS? > > That's quite funny. > > On Arch Linux ntp is sane, but gnupg isn't that sane. > > $ pacman -Q ntp gnupg > ntp 4.2.8-1 > gnupg 2.1.1-1 > > I verified 10.04.4 LTS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for it's > end of life date. > > "May 9, 2013 (Desktop) > April 2015 (Server)" > > Oops. No Ooops, Ralf, its the server basic install, with enough kde to make a desktop out of it. kde of course is now old & grey, but I know all its infirmatie's so I am cool with that. > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ntp claims 4.2.4 and > http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SecurityNotice mentions 4.2.4 > isn't "recommended" anymore. > > However, my main distro isn't Kubuntu, it's Arch and gnupg upstream > mentions that GnuPG 2.0.26 is stable and 2.1 is modern ;). > > So what ever distro we are using, "desktop" is more important, than > more serious usage and "modern" is prior being "steady as a rock". > > And since systemd became the init system for all major distros, I > suspect that a meteorite already killed all of us computer dinos, > even Mr. Torvalds isn't aware that we can't stop it. > > Linus Torvalds said: > > "I don't actually have any particularly strong opinions on systemd > itself. I've had issues with some of the core developers that I think > are much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility, and I think some of > the design details are insane (I dislike the binary logs, for example), > but those are details, not big issues." - > http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-system > d/ > > http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html > > http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/66034-systemd-again? > -debian-drops-kfreebsd-as-official-architecture > > Old faithful *nix like operating systems aren't anymore what they still > were a while ago. > > That started a while back, e.g. with stuff like this > $ cat ~/.config/dconf/user > > Config files that aren't human usable anymore, followed by systemd > log files that are binary. > > Time to use our QLs, STs etc. again ;). > > Regards, > Ralf Yeah, systemd scares me. Lennert thinks he has a better way, but no one has ever said what was wrong with the old way. So IMO they waste thousands of man hours making Lennerts way work, hours of coding that could, IMNSHO, be put to better use. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From mmtsales at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 14:16:05 2014 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 11:16:05 -0300 Subject: kmail wrong address when answering In-Reply-To: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> References: <3361120.vpfdyBYC2d@perry-vg020aa-uuz-p6111ch> Message-ID: I'm not sure I understood correctly your problem. Is the sender's address being replaced by your address when your wife sends an email? Isn't that the reason why the replies go to your address and not to hers? Try sending an e-mail from her address to yours and check the headers in the message you will get (not in the copy which is copied to the sent box). Is the sender's address yours or hers? Some SMTP servers do not allow you to send messages from a user different from the one you use to authenticate. When you try to do that, the sender's address is replaced by the one used to authenticate with the SMTP server. If this is the problem, you will need to setup another outgoing mail server for your wife which uses her address to authenticate with the SMTP server and then configure her identity to use that outgoing server when sending mails instead of using the server you configured for your account. This is not a bug in Kmail, it is a security procedure put in place by some providers to avoid identity theft. Also, Gmail allows you to create a list of addresses that are allowed to be used as senders for a given account. They validate your rights to use those addresses by sending them a confirmation e-mail before allowing you to use them as senders while authenticating with your account. If you register your wife's address as an authorized sender in your gmail acount, then it will not be necessary to setup a different outgoing mail server for her. []'s Marcelo 2014-12-02 13:13 GMT-03:00 Perry : > Hi, > > > I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and got kmail 4.13.3 > > When I reply to a mail from my wife using "reply to" my address is inserted > instead of hers. I have been using kmail for a long time and never observed > this behaviour before. > If I use "reply to Author" her address is inserted, normal , and if I > reply to > a another person (not my wife) the correct address is inserted. > > I checked the long header in my wife's mail and the return path points > correctly to her mailbox. > > I found Bug#343348: kmail: Answer to a mail is send to a wrong address, > but that bug was about answering to a mailing list and not very helpful. > > Any hints ? > > Cheers Perry > > -- > BOFH excuse #392: It's union rules. There's nothing we can do about it. > Sorry. > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydp at juno.com Tue Dec 23 17:03:35 2014 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:03:35 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> hello, I have just loaded kubuntu 14.10 on my hp 32bit c304-nr laptop, but I have no clue as to using this OS. When it is loaded I have a blue design screen with one small window, saying, THIS WINDOW IS EMPTY. I can get on the web fine, using FIREFOX. At first I thought that the program did not load properly, but it has come back up the same. I have searched the web looking for an easy to understand manual, with no success. I tried downloading FROSTWIRE, The file downloaded ok, but when I double-click to open the file all I get is a window that asks me what do I want to use to open it with. Also it does not recognize my wireless. help please. Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Apple's Crazy New Gizmo Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499a0b575d0c20b51770st03duc From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Dec 23 17:46:37 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:46:37 -0600 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> References: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <5499AA7D.2040305@swbell.net> I get rid of that annoying box. Click the "x" on the bar that slides out of the side. Haven't found anything it was good for yet. First step is to right click the big blue button with the "K" on it. Click on "Switch to classic menu style" or something to that effect. Left click on the big blue button. Go down the menu to "System". Go down to "Konsole" and click. A window will open with a black background and writing in the top. Copy and paste sudo apt-get install synaptic into that box. Hit on the keyboard. Type in your login password and hit . Once it stops and is back to the prompt close that window. Click the big blue button again.Go down to System. Go down to Synaptic and click. Enter password. There is just about any and every kind of software you will ever need. [ The KDE software manager sucks ] In the search box type in what your looking for and go through the offerings. Everything is in the menu under the big blue button. It's all categorized by what it does. Some of the names can be a bit silly at first but after a while they start to make a kind of sense when you realize the acronyms used. Settings is where you find System Settings, and other configuration stuff. I'm sure there will be a time when you break something in settings. I would hate to tell you how many times I broke my system when I first started. I just reloaded and figured I had learned what not to do. On 12/23/2014 11:03 AM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > hello, > I have just loaded kubuntu 14.10 on my hp 32bit c304-nr laptop, but I have no clue as to using this OS. > When it is loaded I have a blue design screen with one small window, saying, THIS WINDOW IS EMPTY. I can get on the web fine, using FIREFOX. > At first I thought that the program did not load properly, but it has come back up the same. > I have searched the web looking for an easy to understand manual, with no success. > I tried downloading FROSTWIRE, The file downloaded ok, but when I double-click to open the file all I get is a window that asks me what do I want to use to open it with. > Also it does not recognize my wireless. > help please. > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499a0b575d0c20b51770st03duc > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From accessys at smart.net Tue Dec 23 17:27:09 2014 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:27:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> References: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: do you have a desktop loaded, such as KDE or Gnome??? Bob On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:03:35 GMT > From: "clydp at juno.com" > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: new to K > > > hello, > I have just loaded kubuntu 14.10 on my hp 32bit c304-nr laptop, but I have no clue as to using this OS. > When it is loaded I have a blue design screen with one small window, saying, THIS WINDOW IS EMPTY. I can get on the web fine, using FIREFOX. > At first I thought that the program did not load properly, but it has come back up the same. > I have searched the web looking for an easy to understand manual, with no success. > I tried downloading FROSTWIRE, The file downloaded ok, but when I double-click to open the file all I get is a window that asks me what do I want to use to open it with. > Also it does not recognize my wireless. > help please. > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499a0b575d0c20b51770st03duc > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From clydp at juno.com Tue Dec 23 18:11:37 2014 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:11:37 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20141223.121137.20011.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Hi Billie, You are a life-saver. (and you speak American too.) I fully purposed to learn the K, but I admit I was slowly becoming frustrated. My first irk came when I went on the web looking for an easy to read manual, and fould only jargon only an engineer could master. Since we're leaving out for a Christmas visit I will apply what you have directed me to do. Thank you so much, kubuntu dummy in Texas. Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Apple's Crazy New Gizmo Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499b0937d11c30932edfst01duc From clydp at juno.com Tue Dec 23 18:19:03 2014 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:19:03 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20141223.121903.20011.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Hi Bob, Apparently I do not, I was thinking all that came with the package. I am a long-time XP user, this is a totally new venture for me. I'm embrassed to say, I do not know how to install either of the programs, or even know which is the best. I need that book, "KUBUNTU FOR REAL DUMMIES." MERRY CHRISTMAS, Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Apple's Crazy New Gizmo Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499b27b331d4327b2f46st04duc From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Dec 23 18:41:18 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:41:18 -0600 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141223.121903.20011.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20141223.121903.20011.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <5499B74E.8040703@swbell.net> Kubuntu comes with the KDE environment. That's why it is Kubuntu. On 12/23/2014 12:19 PM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Hi Bob, > Apparently I do not, I was thinking all that came with the package. I am a long-time XP user, this is a totally new venture for me. I'm embrassed to say, I do not know how to install either of the programs, or even know which is the best. I need that book, "KUBUNTU FOR REAL DUMMIES." > > MERRY CHRISTMAS, > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499b27b331d4327b2f46st04duc > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From rocky1937 at comcast.net Tue Dec 23 19:44:22 2014 From: rocky1937 at comcast.net (ralph) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 12:44:22 -0700 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141223.121137.20011.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20141223.121137.20011.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <5499C616.2030705@comcast.net> Welcome to Kubuntu Clyde. I'm just North of you in Colorado and started with an IBM PC Jr running DOS. Thirty plus years later and at a frisky 78 year old I switched to ubuntu 6 or 7 years ago. I understand the confusion you're going through but you need to know you will master this operating system in due time. I have 4 computers going at this point, three running Kubuntu and one running Windows 8.1 just for a proper balance. Ubuntu is the BEST and you will, in time, be grateful that you switched. Rocky On 12/23/2014 11:11 AM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Hi Billie, > You are a life-saver. (and you speak American too.) > I fully purposed to learn the K, but I admit I was slowly becoming frustrated. > My first irk came when I went on the web looking for an easy to read manual, and fould only jargon only an engineer could master. > Since we're leaving out for a Christmas visit I will apply what you have directed me to do. > Thank you so much, > > kubuntu dummy in Texas. > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499b0937d11c30932edfst01duc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From accessys at smart.net Tue Dec 23 19:31:17 2014 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 14:31:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141223.121903.20011.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20141223.121903.20011.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: open a terminal and type in "startx" this should start what even desktop loaded as default when you downloaded the system, if kabuntu it is usually the KDE desktop Bob On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 18:19:03 GMT > From: "clydp at juno.com" > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: new to K > > Hi Bob, > Apparently I do not, I was thinking all that came with the package. I am a long-time XP user, this is a totally new venture for me. I'm embrassed to say, I do not know how to install either of the programs, or even know which is the best. I need that book, "KUBUNTU FOR REAL DUMMIES." > > MERRY CHRISTMAS, > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499b27b331d4327b2f46st04duc > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed Dec 24 03:19:20 2014 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 22:19:20 -0500 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> References: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: hello, I have just loaded kubuntu 14.10 on my hp 32bit c304-nr laptop, but I have no clue as to using this OS. When it is loaded I have a blue design screen with one small window, saying, THIS WINDOW IS EMPTY. I can get on the web fine, using FIREFOX. At first I thought that the program did not load properly, but it has come back up the same. I have searched the web looking for an easy to understand manual, with no success. I tried downloading FROSTWIRE, The file downloaded ok, but when I double-click to open the file all I get is a window that asks me what do I want to use to open it with. Also it does not recognize my wireless. help please. Clyde Poldrack Hi Clyde I'm afraid I won't be of much help as I am not very proficient at using the system myself. But once you get your desktop set up and I am assuming you are using KDE for your desktop you have a very good start on things. Billy is quite right about that big blue button down the left-hand corner. Consider it your start button. When you click it, which later can be set to one or two clicks, a box should pop up. On the bottom you will find icons for favorites applications, computer recently used and leave. There will be a few favorites which you will be able to add to later. At first, most everything you want to use will be under applications and when you highlight or click on that you find a list such as education games, graphics, Internet, multimedia office science and math settings system utilities and help. Clicking on each of these will bring up various programs when I click on office I get calendar, contact manager, database development, which is part of libre office base, dictionary, dictionary, client document viewer drawing program Another part of libre office and so forth. These programs will handle most of your day today tasks. Other programs you might wish to have are available through various download managers. Semantic which is not a default program is one of the best though it's older and its interface shows it nor is it that intuitive. The default program managers do really need some work. You will find them under the system section of applications. The first thing I would go to is software updates which will check and see if the install software including patches and security updates is up-to-date and if you need to will update your programs. Another thing you might look at is the software center which is also under applications system. This will give you a simplified GUI of various programs you may wish to download and they will install automatically when you download them. Be aware that not all of these programs are free and the explanations of what each program does our brief. The subtitle of this particular software center is muon discover. While this particular program manager may seem simple, it is pretty limited. Just to test it out and if you want an excellent program to play most any media though the program can do much more Click on and download VLC media player. After it installs you will find it under applications, multimedia. I don't know enough at this time to address your problems with your wireless. Others may be able to give you step-by-step directions. If you will give them the brand and model number of your laptop. Also helpful would be if you would look up what type of wireless, which you should be able to discover in your laptops documentation or from the driver name used when you had XP which you should be able to find on the laptops manufactures website for downloads for that model Laptop. My newer laptop is a Lenovo 580 which has become infamous Even in Windows for its defective wireless and total lack of support. For it I had to resort to a USB external unit. Hopefully this will get you started a bit. There are various sites on the Internet where you can obtain help. However, I have not found a dummies for Lennix site. The best advice I can give is to do as you did when you first started using a computer and try things, write it down and when you mess up, try again. I am an old fart of 66 and am now stuck in extremely rural South Georgia and so there is no one around to show me what to do. I will be happy to try to help you in any way I can but you must realize it will be a case of the blind leading the blind. In addition, I have various illnesses which make me unavailable at times. The time around holidays and in particular Christmas is a rough time to get any assistance as many people who would normally be available are doing other things. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:03 PM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > > hello, > I have just loaded kubuntu 14.10 on my hp 32bit c304-nr laptop, but I have > no clue as to using this OS. > When it is loaded I have a blue design screen with one small window, > saying, THIS WINDOW IS EMPTY. I can get on the web fine, using FIREFOX. > At first I thought that the program did not load properly, but it has come > back up the same. > I have searched the web looking for an easy to understand manual, with no > success. > I tried downloading FROSTWIRE, The file downloaded ok, but when I > double-click to open the file all I get is a window that asks me what do I > want to use to open it with. > Also it does not recognize my wireless. > help please. > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5499a0b575d0c20b51770st03duc > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Wed Dec 24 12:07:34 2014 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Charles T. Bell) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 07:07:34 -0500 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: References: <20141223.110335.3937.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <549AAC86.3010405@cfl.rr.com> On 12/23/2014 10:19 PM, Uriah Heep wrote: > hello, > I have just loaded kubuntu 14.10 on my hp 32bit c304-nr laptop, but I > have no clue as to using this OS. > When it is loaded I have a blue design screen with one small window, > saying, THIS WINDOW IS EMPTY. I can get on the web fine, using FIREFOX. > At first I thought that the program did not load properly, but it has > come back up the same. > I have searched the web looking for an easy to understand manual, with > no success. > I tried downloading FROSTWIRE, The file downloaded ok, but when I > double-click to open the file all I get is a window that asks me what do > I want to use to open it with. > Also it does not recognize my wireless. > help please. > > Clyde Poldrack > > SNIP! When you download file to run on Linux/Kubuntu, you most likely will have to ope the .zip or .tar, whatever, using ARK because just running a file is usually not an option. Do you have anything else on the screen? the "K" button in the corner works similar to "Start" in Windows. Move your mouse around the screen and see what happens. Be sure to go completely to the edge of the four sides. Some time a panel is hidden until you go to the edge of the screen. Use Firefox and go to www.kubuntu.org That should get you a little ways. Don't hesitate to return here with questions that arise. Good luck! Tom -- "To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." -- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V(1776) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: cbell44.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 149 bytes Desc: not available URL: From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sun Dec 28 07:46:08 2014 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 17:46:08 +1000 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit Message-ID: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> Thank you for reading this. I was recently given a 64 bit laptop and although it only has one working USB port it performs far better than my older 32 bit laptop. The 64 bit laptop has Kubuntu installed from scratch and works flawlessly except for Firefox crashing on every occasion after a boot up with the Crash Reporter displaying "We are sorry" etc.. A Google search has not shed any light on the problem. Is this a known problem with the 64 bit version or could there be a problem with my installation? -- Regards, Phil From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Dec 28 12:19:12 2014 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 13:19:12 +0100 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20141228131912.399bdfe6@archlinux> On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 17:46:08 +1000, Phil wrote: > "We are sorry" etc.. Make an educated guess! Do we need the info "We are sorry" or do we need the "etc." information to provide help? What release of Kubuntu are you using? Did you take a look at a log file? E.g. did you already run $ less ~/.xsession-errors or did you run Firefox in a terminal? Did you strace Firefox? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace Did you install the Firfox dbg package and gdb to debug Firefox. gdb firefox (gdb) run Use Firefox and when it crashs continue with at least (gdb) bt and post the messages you get. Assumed you shouldn't use the English language you need to add LC_ALL=C or LANG=C, so that the output is in English. In addition to request help on the list, you should report bugs to the bug tracker of Ubuntu and/or to upstream. -- Waveya or Pina Bausch? From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 28 17:00:18 2014 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:00:18 +0100 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> Phil wrote: > The 64 bit laptop has Kubuntu installed from scratch and works > flawlessly except for Firefox crashing on every occasion after a boot > up with the Crash Reporter displaying "We are sorry" etc.. > > A Google search has not shed any light on the problem. Is this a known > problem with the 64 bit version or could there be a problem with my > installation? I don't think that the 64 bit firefox has general problems - at least I haven't seen any firefox crashes on my 64 bit Kubuntu 14.04 machine. To further diagnose the reason for your crashes, you could disable any addons and check if then the crashes still happen. If the crashes are gone after disabling the addons, you can enable them one at a time to determine which one is the culprit. Nils From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sun Dec 28 17:25:27 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:25:27 -0600 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> Message-ID: <54A03D07.70600@swbell.net> On 12/28/2014 11:00 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Phil wrote: >> The 64 bit laptop has Kubuntu installed from scratch and works >> flawlessly except for Firefox crashing on every occasion after a boot >> up with the Crash Reporter displaying "We are sorry" etc.. >> >> A Google search has not shed any light on the problem. Is this a known >> problem with the 64 bit version or could there be a problem with my >> installation? > I don't think that the 64 bit firefox has general problems - at least I > haven't seen any firefox crashes on my 64 bit Kubuntu 14.04 machine. To > further diagnose the reason for your crashes, you could disable any > addons and check if then the crashes still happen. If the crashes are > gone after disabling the addons, you can enable them one at a time to > determine which one is the culprit. > > > Nils > > The only issue I've noticed is Firefox's tendency to get flaky after several days/weeks of being up and hundreds of tabs opened and closed [ and many open still ]. Usually a close and restart clears the baffles or whatever it is. Now, I also have Nightly, the bleeding edge Firefox, and it, from version to version, might crash fairly regularly. It's irritating but that's what you get for playing with the bleeding edge. Most of the time it's stable, but......... -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From hansdinsenhansen at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 19:45:08 2014 From: hansdinsenhansen at gmail.com (Hans dinsen-hansen) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 20:45:08 +0100 Subject: Setting alternative keyboard layout in Kubuntu. Message-ID: Dear list. My wife is German, we are living in Denmark. She uses a German laptop but from time to time needs the Danish keyboard layout to write words like "blåbærgrød". How can I set up her laptop with Kubuntu 14.10 to toggle between Danish and German keyboard layout with e.g. pressing Alt-Shift. I cannot find anything about adding an other layout in Settings even if it is described in several answers on the internet. Actually, one description with beautiful screen shots showed actions under KDE 3.5 ("Trinity"). I can change to kbd-layut toggle by editing in /etc/defaults/keyboard and follow the instructions in that file. But it only works for the tty-terminals. I can also set X to switching mode by sourcing the command file set -x sudo setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout "de,dk" \ -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle" set +x in an X-terminal. Of course this setting disappears with a reboot. I must admit that I'm not a Linux expert, and I'm used to setting my special wishes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but that file hardly exists in Linuxes and not at all in Debian/Ubuntu. Hans Dinsen-Hansen Get Your Special Signature at Xrosmate From kassube at gmx.net Sun Dec 28 20:25:34 2014 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:25:34 +0100 Subject: Setting alternative keyboard layout in Kubuntu. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2271293.2L2MgRYr6e@p5915> Hans dinsen-hansen wrote: > My wife is German, we are living in Denmark. She uses a German laptop > but from time to time needs the Danish keyboard layout to write words > like "blåbærgrød". > > How can I set up her laptop with Kubuntu 14.10 to toggle between > Danish and German keyboard layout with e.g. pressing Alt-Shift. "System Settings" -> "Input Devices" -> "Keyboard" at the "Layouts" tab you can add the secondary layout after you have selected the "Configure layouts" option. At the selection window for the new layout you can select a shortcut, but it seems that Alt-Shift doesn't work here. Instead you can omit the shortcut at this point and after selecting the extra layout you can select the "Main shortcut" at the "Shortcuts for Switching Layouts" area. There you can select Alt-Shift. Then you will see a new indicator in the panel which shows the current layout and with Alt-Shift you can toggle the layout. Nils From littlergirl at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 22:02:22 2014 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 17:02:22 -0500 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <54a07e0d.e3158c0a.1be6.ffff9b97@mx.google.com> Hey there, Phil wrote: > The 64 bit laptop has Kubuntu installed from scratch and works > flawlessly except for Firefox crashing on every occasion after a > boot up with the Crash Reporter displaying "We are sorry" etc.. Something I often do is to paste the entire "We are sorry" message into Google, especially if that sorry message has any kind of technical details in it. > A Google search has not shed any light on the problem. Is this a > known problem with the 64 bit version or could there be a problem > with my installation? Here's the Mozilla page on troubleshooting and solving common Firefox issues: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-and-diagnose-firefox-problems My new 64 bit laptop had frequent Firefox crashes with a "We are sorry" message relating to add-ons, and it turned out that disabling hardware acceleration in Firefox was my solution. Hopefully this troubleshooting page will help you find your solution. (: -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From hansdinsenhansen at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 22:13:29 2014 From: hansdinsenhansen at gmail.com (Hans dinsen-hansen) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:13:29 +0100 Subject: Setting alternative keyboard layout in Kubuntu. In-Reply-To: <2271293.2L2MgRYr6e@p5915> References: <2271293.2L2MgRYr6e@p5915> Message-ID: Thank you so much. I found the right selections. I have the problem that when I think computers, I think English, and my wife's laptop speaks German. What is e.g. "layout" called in German ("Belegung"!). I do not even know a Danish word for layout. Even if Danish is my home-language. On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Hans dinsen-hansen wrote: >> My wife is German, we are living in Denmark. She uses a German laptop >> but from time to time needs the Danish keyboard layout to write words >> like "blåbærgrød". >> >> How can I set up her laptop with Kubuntu 14.10 to toggle between >> Danish and German keyboard layout with e.g. pressing Alt-Shift. > > "System Settings" -> "Input Devices" -> "Keyboard" at the "Layouts" tab > you can add the secondary layout after you have selected the "Configure > layouts" option. At the selection window for the new layout you can > select a shortcut, but it seems that Alt-Shift doesn't work here. > Instead you can omit the shortcut at this point and after selecting the > extra layout you can select the "Main shortcut" at the "Shortcuts for > Switching Layouts" area. There you can select Alt-Shift. Then you will > see a new indicator in the panel which shows the current layout and with > Alt-Shift you can toggle the layout. > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users From phil_lor at bigpond.com Mon Dec 29 01:48:01 2014 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:48:01 +1000 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> Message-ID: <54A0B2D1.6060108@bigpond.com> On 29/12/14 03:00, Nils Kassube wrote: > Phil wrote: >> The 64 bit laptop has Kubuntu installed from scratch and works >> flawlessly except for Firefox crashing on every occasion after a boot >> up with the Crash Reporter displaying "We are sorry" etc.. >> >> A Google search has not shed any light on the problem. Is this a known >> problem with the 64 bit version or could there be a problem with my >> installation? > > I don't think that the 64 bit firefox has general problems - at least I > haven't seen any firefox crashes on my 64 bit Kubuntu 14.04 machine. To > further diagnose the reason for your crashes, you could disable any > addons and check if then the crashes still happen. If the crashes are > gone after disabling the addons, you can enable them one at a time to > determine which one is the culprit. > Thank you your suggestions, The "We are sorry" that I was referring to is not an error message but the first line in a dialogue (dialog) box that allows the user to post the fault condition to Mozilla. I have removed all add-ons and the only tab open is the default Ubuntu search page. Any open tab will cause Firefox to crash, not just the Ubuntu page. The Mozilla "diagnose faults" page didn't provide any enlightenment, however I will press on and see what I can discover. Thank you again, as always, for the useful tips. -- Regards, Phil From kassube at gmx.net Mon Dec 29 07:30:31 2014 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 08:30:31 +0100 Subject: Setting alternative keyboard layout in Kubuntu. In-Reply-To: References: <2271293.2L2MgRYr6e@p5915> Message-ID: <2078920.aBaSmDBgG8@p5915> Hans dinsen-hansen wrote: > Thank you so much. I found the right selections. I have the problem > that when I think computers, I think English, and my wife's laptop > speaks German. What is e.g. "layout" called in German ("Belegung"!). > I do not even know a Danish word for layout. Even if Danish is my > home-language. Yes, "Belegungen" is the name of the tab. But that doesn't mean that this word would always fit. In most cases I would rather translate it with "Anordnung". Anyway, you can change the application language of most KDE applications in the help menu. Then you don't have to guess, what the term might be in your language. Nils From tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 08:26:56 2014 From: tuxmario.detreb at gmail.com (TuxMario DETREB) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 09:26:56 +0100 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <54A0B2D1.6060108@bigpond.com> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> <54A0B2D1.6060108@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <54A11050.6050300@gmail.com> Hello I'm using Firefox and Chromium under Kubuntu Utopic (14.10) 64 bits without issue In the past I had sometimes issues with Firefox and most of time I solved the issue by 1. stopping Firefox 2. renaming my ~/.mozilla/firefox to ~/.mozilla/oldfirefox 3. logout 4. login 5. start Firefox NB : This solution is boring because you have to set up your configuration (bookmark, plug-in etc...) NB : It's possible to come back to your old environment by renaming back Regards : TuxMario Le 29/12/2014 02:48, Phil a écrit : > On 29/12/14 03:00, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Phil wrote: >>> The 64 bit laptop has Kubuntu installed from scratch and works >>> flawlessly except for Firefox crashing on every occasion after a boot >>> up with the Crash Reporter displaying "We are sorry" etc.. >>> >>> A Google search has not shed any light on the problem. Is this a known >>> problem with the 64 bit version or could there be a problem with my >>> installation? >> >> I don't think that the 64 bit firefox has general problems - at least I >> haven't seen any firefox crashes on my 64 bit Kubuntu 14.04 machine. To >> further diagnose the reason for your crashes, you could disable any >> addons and check if then the crashes still happen. If the crashes are >> gone after disabling the addons, you can enable them one at a time to >> determine which one is the culprit. >> > > Thank you your suggestions, > > The "We are sorry" that I was referring to is not an error message but > the first line in a dialogue (dialog) box that allows the user to post > the fault condition to Mozilla. > > I have removed all add-ons and the only tab open is the default Ubuntu > search page. Any open tab will cause Firefox to crash, not just the > Ubuntu page. > > The Mozilla "diagnose faults" page didn't provide any enlightenment, > however I will press on and see what I can discover. > > Thank you again, as always, for the useful tips. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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David On 28 December 2014 at 07:46, Phil wrote: > Thank you for reading this. > > I was recently given a 64 bit laptop and although it only has one working > USB port it performs far better than my older 32 bit laptop. > > The 64 bit laptop has Kubuntu installed from scratch and works flawlessly > except for Firefox crashing on every occasion after a boot up with the > Crash Reporter displaying "We are sorry" etc.. > > A Google search has not shed any light on the problem. 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My video adapter: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Curacao XT [Radeon R9 270X] [1002:6810] has anybody experienced a similar problem? Thanks! Ildefonso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phil_lor at bigpond.com Mon Dec 29 21:36:47 2014 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 07:36:47 +1000 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <54A11050.6050300@gmail.com> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> <54A0B2D1.6060108@bigpond.com> <54A11050.6050300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54A1C96F.8030301@bigpond.com> On 29/12/14 18:26, TuxMario DETREB wrote: > Hello > > I'm using Firefox and Chromium under Kubuntu Utopic (14.10) 64 bits > without issue > In the past I had sometimes issues with Firefox and most of time I > solved the issue by > > 1. stopping Firefox > 2. renaming my ~/.mozilla/firefox to ~/.mozilla/oldfirefox > 3. logout > 4. login > 5. start Firefox > > Thank you for your responses. Firefox crashed the second time that the laptop was booted with nothing, that I've added, in the mozilla directory. I'll try your suggestion anyway, at least it may eliminate another possibility. Firefox crashes on boot up only, so starting from the console does not provide any useful information. I can start Firefox a dozen times without failure, it only crashes on boot up. Perhaps Firefox is not the problem after all, I'll take your advice David and test the memory. -- Regards, Phil From kde.lists at yahoo.com Mon Dec 29 21:56:11 2014 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 22:56:11 +0100 Subject: Mozilla Crash Reporter for 64 bit In-Reply-To: <54A1C96F.8030301@bigpond.com> References: <549FB540.9000601@bigpond.com> <3130526.Gr4e7eIGpP@p5915> <54A0B2D1.6060108@bigpond.com> <54A11050.6050300@gmail.com> <54A1C96F.8030301@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20141229225611.1493e008@archlinux> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 07:36:47 +1000, Phil wrote: > Perhaps Firefox is not the problem after all, I'll take your advice > David and test the memory. As I already pointed out earlier, including a link how to do it, a strace will show you and it's not hard to do. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2014-December/060203.html A memory test in this case is wrong troubleshooting. Nothing indicates a bad memory. Evidence suggests that the RAM is ok. Is there a reason to ignore how troubleshooting is done correctly and instead to insist in doing things that never ever will show what's happening? The earlier post (link above) also explains how to do debugging using gdb. The messages of gdb at least are useful when filing a bug report. There's a reason why Ubuntu provides dbg packages. JFTR the important strace output often is understandable even for new users. Since other apps are stable and Firefox already crashes, without much load, less opened tabs, what exactly leads to a defect RAM? From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Tue Dec 30 17:14:09 2014 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 12:14:09 -0500 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa < ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com> wrote: > Greetings, > > I have been observing a serious (~1GB/hour) memory leak while I keep > desktop effects enabled. > > I am running Kubuntu 14.04, no X-related ppa enabled. I am using AMD > proprietary drivers on a AMD R9 270X adapter. I have the feeling this > could be driver-related, however, when I disabled the proprietary driver I > had a hard time getting the system to boot (would hang with a black screen, > related to "radeon" kernel module). I do not really remember the kernel > command line I used to bring it back to a text console, but I know it > included: radeon.blacklist = yes radeon.modeset=0 single , among others > (just including "single" would hang just after loading radeon kernel > module). For now, I am working without desktop effects, but it is kinda > boring. > > My video adapter: > > 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, > Inc. [AMD/ATI] Curacao XT [Radeon R9 270X] [1002:6810] > > has anybody experienced a similar problem? > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used compiz and it didn't leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing kwin with compiz on a kde session (it worked, mostly), had some compatibility issues, but I was able to use it for several hours. I later tried "unity" session with compiz and many effects enabled: it worked just fine too. Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and refrain from changing any settings. I am still observing and will update. Any ideas? Ildefonso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydp at juno.com Tue Dec 30 17:58:35 2014 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:58:35 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20141230.115835.3064.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Hi Billie, Ok, I reset the "K" button as you directed. I can now open the synaptic window, but I understand little of it. The S-window has two smaller windows, the one on the left I think I know as I scroll thru about where and what I might need, but the right window is totally unclear. Like, where can I get a list to know just what I really need to load? Also I still do not have a proper desk-top running. You gotta be thinking, I've got a real goof-ball here. but I do want to get to know this new system. I trust you had a great Christmas. Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Apple's Crazy New Gizmo Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54a2e7ee4952667ee5f43st01duc From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Dec 30 18:19:57 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 12:19:57 -0600 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141230.115835.3064.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> References: <20141230.115835.3064.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <54A2ECCD.2040507@swbell.net> You do have your "desktop". Thats the "blue"pattern screen with the bar across the bottom. Just like Windows. Everything installed is categorized in the drop down menu from the K button. The question for you is what kinds of software do you want to install from the basic setup? Click the K button and go to "System" and click "Synaptic Package Manager". In Synaptic - the box on the left top should start out at the top with ALL. That is ALL the software available. Everything below that is categorized software available. I don't know what you might want to do so as an example, in the "Quick Filter" search box type "audio" [ without th quotation marks ]. In the box below that has "Package" will be all the software available that matches your search criteria. Highlight, click on, one and the bottom right box will show a description. If you click on the little box beside a package a pop-up opens with your choices [ Install, Delete, Reinstall, etc. ] Put in some ideas you have for what you might want and see what comes up. At the top of the Synaptic window it says: "Reload", that looks for new packages in the repository or updates to what you have installed. Always a good idea to do that when you open Synaptic. "Mark All Upgrades", that marks all updated software to be installed. It has a pop-up to show what is to be marked for update. ust click "OK". "Apply", starts the changes you've chosen. Has a nearly identicle pop-up. Click "OK". sit back and relax. On 12/30/2014 11:58 AM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Hi Billie, > Ok, I reset the "K" button as you directed. I can now open the synaptic window, but I understand little of it. > The S-window has two smaller windows, the one on the left I think I know as I scroll thru about where and what I might need, but the right window is totally unclear. Like, where can I get a list to know just what I really need to load? > Also I still do not have a proper desk-top running. > You gotta be thinking, I've got a real goof-ball here. but I do want to get to know this new system. > I trust you had a great Christmas. > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54a2e7ee4952667ee5f43st01duc > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From clydp at juno.com Tue Dec 30 18:33:37 2014 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:33:37 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20141230.123337.3064.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Thanks Billie, You are a good teacher, (and patient.) Plus the fact that you respond so quickly. I've tried to download FROSTWIRE, a free music download where one can find about any song. Anyway, in UBUNTU it is very easy to download and install, but double-click on the package does not seem to work with K. When I get a program off the web, (one not in synaptic,) how do I install that? thanks. and thanks once again for your time n patience. Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Apple's Crazy New Gizmo Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54a2f046e9a2b704618f6st04duc From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Dec 30 18:56:19 2014 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 12:56:19 -0600 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20141230.123337.3064.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com> References: <20141230.123337.3064.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <54A2F553.9070900@swbell.net> If the package you download is a .deb file you can open Dolphin, navigate to where the file downloaded to and click it. The installer should open. Follow the prompts to install. If the package is anything other than a .deb file, I have no idea. I have never had any luck compiling a program to install. One program I find very useful is Wine. I have a couple of VERY OLD Windows programs I like and they work just fine in Wine. I go to winehq.org and follow their directions to add their repository to Synaptic. That way it stays updated to the latest and greatest. On 12/30/2014 12:33 PM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Thanks Billie, > You are a good teacher, (and patient.) Plus the fact that you respond so quickly. > I've tried to download FROSTWIRE, a free music download where one can find about any song. Anyway, in UBUNTU it is very easy to download and install, but double-click on the package does not seem to work with K. When I get a program off the web, (one not in synaptic,) how do I install that? thanks. > and thanks once again for your time n patience. > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54a2f046e9a2b704618f6st04duc > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From cbell44 at cfl.rr.com Tue Dec 30 19:17:19 2014 From: cbell44 at cfl.rr.com (Charles T. Bell) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:17:19 -0500 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <54A2F553.9070900@swbell.net> References: <20141230.123337.3064.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com> <54A2F553.9070900@swbell.net> Message-ID: <54A2FA3F.9030000@cfl.rr.com> On 12/30/2014 01:56 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > If the package you download is a .deb file you can open Dolphin, > navigate to where the file downloaded to and click it. The installer > should open. Follow the prompts to install. > > If the package is anything other than a .deb file, I have no idea. I > have never had any luck compiling a program to install. > > One program I find very useful is Wine. I have a couple of VERY OLD > Windows programs I like and they work just fine in Wine. I go to > winehq.org and follow their directions to add their repository to > Synaptic. That way it stays updated to the latest and greatest. > > On 12/30/2014 12:33 PM, clydp at juno.com wrote: >> Thanks Billie, >> You are a good teacher, (and patient.) Plus the fact that you respond >> so quickly. >> I've tried to download FROSTWIRE, a free music download where one can >> find about any song. Anyway, in UBUNTU it is very easy to download and >> install, but double-click on the package does not seem to work with K. >> When I get a program off the web, (one not in synaptic,) how do I >> install that? thanks. >> and thanks once again for your time n patience. >> >> >> Clyde Poldrack >> >> clydp at juno.com >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Apple's Crazy New Gizmo >> Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54a2f046e9a2b704618f6st04duc >> > > It greatly helps if you load "ark" from synaptic. It is an (un)archiver. With it you can extract file from .tar and .gz compressed files to a directory and from there install the program if it is possible. Sometimes it won't work, .deb (debian files) are more compatible with different architectures. Good luck! Tom -- "To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." -- Thomas Paine, The American Crisis No. V(1776) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyway, in UBUNTU it is very easy to download and install, but double-click on the package does not seem to work with K. When I get a program off the web, (one not in synaptic,) how do I install that? thanks. > and thanks once again for your time n patience. > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Apple's Crazy New Gizmo > Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54a2f046e9a2b704618f6st04duc > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >