Off-topic: Serious, very serious hole in ntp announced today.

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 20 December 2014 15:49:59 Ralf Mardorf did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 05:25:28 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Does anyone have an estimate on when ntp, version 4.2.8 will be
> > > available for 10.04.4 LTS?
> 
> That's quite funny.
> 
> On Arch Linux ntp is sane, but gnupg isn't that sane.
> 
> $ pacman -Q ntp gnupg
> ntp 4.2.8-1
> gnupg 2.1.1-1
> 
> I verified 10.04.4 LTS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for it's
> end of life date.
> 
> "May 9, 2013 (Desktop)
> April 2015 (Server)"
> 
> Oops.

No Ooops, Ralf, its the server basic install, with enough kde to make a 
desktop out of it.  kde of course is now old & grey, but I know all its 
infirmatie's so I am cool with that.
> 
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ntp claims 4.2.4 and
> http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Main/SecurityNotice mentions 4.2.4
> isn't "recommended" anymore.
> 
> However, my main distro isn't Kubuntu, it's Arch and gnupg upstream
> mentions that GnuPG 2.0.26 is stable and 2.1 is modern ;).
> 
> So what ever distro we are using, "desktop" is more important, than
> more serious usage and "modern" is prior being "steady as a rock".
> 
> And since systemd became the init system for all major distros, I
> suspect that a meteorite already killed all of us computer dinos,
> even Mr. Torvalds isn't aware that we can't stop it.
> 
> Linus Torvalds said:
> 
> "I don't actually have any particularly strong opinions on systemd
> itself. I've had issues with some of the core developers that I think
> are much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility, and I think some of
> the design details are insane (I dislike the binary logs, for example),
> but those are details, not big issues." -
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-system
> d/
> 
> http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html
> 
> http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/66034-systemd-again?
> -debian-drops-kfreebsd-as-official-architecture
> 
> Old faithful *nix like operating systems aren't anymore what they still
> were a while ago.
> 
> That started a while back, e.g. with stuff like this
> $ cat ~/.config/dconf/user
> 
> Config files that aren't human usable anymore, followed by systemd
> log files that are binary.
> 
> Time to use our QLs, STs etc. again ;).
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf

Yeah, systemd scares me.  Lennert thinks he has a better way, but no one 
has ever said what was wrong with the old way.  So IMO they waste 
thousands of man hours making Lennerts way work, hours of coding that 
could, IMNSHO, be put to better use.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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