From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 16:28:48 2015 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 11:28:48 -0500 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa < ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used compiz and it didn't > leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing kwin with compiz on a kde > session (it worked, mostly), had some compatibility issues, but I was able > to use it for several hours. I later tried "unity" session with compiz and > many effects enabled: it worked just fine too. > > Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and refrain from changing > any settings. I am still observing and will update. > It leaks memory, at a slower rate, but still X memory usage gets to over 2GB in less than 12 hours. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 16:43:28 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2015 11:43:28 -0500 Subject: [Kubuntu 14.10] - Dead On Arrival? Message-ID: <54A57930.9000809@GMail.com> Hi, I've been using Kubuntu for a few years now. I tried Kubuntu 14.10 64Bit on the following: - Intel Core i5 3GHz/8GB DDR3 RAM/nVidia Geforce GTS 450 1GB GDDR5(installs but does not run) - AMD FX 3.5GHz/32GB DDR3 RAM/AMD Radeon HD 7800 2GB GDDR5 (installs but does not run) - VirtualBox under Windows 8.1 Pro 64Bit host (does not install) Kubuntu 14.10 refused to run on all 3 of the above? So 14.10 is dead on arrival for me. I suspect it's the video drivers, but not sure. Will Kubuntu 15.04 solve these issues? Thanks! Jesse --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com From myriam at kubuntu.org Fri Jan 2 01:37:35 2015 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 02:37:35 +0100 Subject: [Kubuntu 14.10] - Dead On Arrival? In-Reply-To: <54A57930.9000809@GMail.com> References: <54A57930.9000809@GMail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jesse, On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jesse Palser < jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using Kubuntu for a few years now. > > I tried Kubuntu 14.10 64Bit on the following: > - Intel Core i5 3GHz/8GB DDR3 RAM/nVidia Geforce GTS 450 1GB > GDDR5(installs but does not run) > - AMD FX 3.5GHz/32GB DDR3 RAM/AMD Radeon HD 7800 2GB GDDR5 (installs but > does not run) > - VirtualBox under Windows 8.1 Pro 64Bit host (does not install) > > Kubuntu 14.10 refused to run on all 3 of the above? > So 14.10 is dead on arrival for me. > I suspect it's the video drivers, but not sure. > > Will Kubuntu 15.04 solve these issues? > Thanks! > How did you install it? Did you upgrade existing installations or with fresh ISOs? In the latter case, did you check the md5sum? 3 Systems here, works on all three like a charm, be this a virtual installation on brand new Windows 8.1 box with a GeForce GTX 980 card, dual boot on the same PC (fresh installation), and upgrade from 14.04 since Beta1 on a Lenovo X220 (core i7 + 8 GB Ram, Intel on board graphics). Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 04:53:13 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 06:53:13 +0200 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54A62439.2040303@gmail.com> On 01/01/2015 18:28, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa > > wrote: > > > > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used compiz and it > didn't leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing kwin with compiz > on a kde session (it worked, mostly), had some compatibility issues, > but I was able to use it for several hours. I later tried "unity" > session with compiz and many effects enabled: it worked just fine too. > > Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and refrain from > changing any settings. I am still observing and will update. > > > It leaks memory, at a slower rate, but still X memory usage gets to over > 2GB in less than 12 hours. > I am not seeing this at all on my laptop with intel i5 cpu and intel graphics From myriam at kubuntu.org Fri Jan 2 11:38:09 2015 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 12:38:09 +0100 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: <54A62439.2040303@gmail.com> References: <54A62439.2040303@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 5:53 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 01/01/2015 18:28, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used compiz and it > > didn't leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing kwin with compiz > > on a kde session (it worked, mostly), had some compatibility issues, > > but I was able to use it for several hours. I later tried "unity" > > session with compiz and many effects enabled: it worked just fine > too. > > > > Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and refrain from > > changing any settings. I am still observing and will update. > > > > > > It leaks memory, at a slower rate, but still X memory usage gets to over > > 2GB in less than 12 hours. > > > I am not seeing this at all on my laptop with intel i5 cpu and intel > graphics, Same here, no leaks whatsoever with Kubuntu 14.10, KDE 4.14.2 with Intel on board graphics on this Intel Core i7 laptop. Uptime is now around 90 hours, Kwin uses 14 Mb of shared memory, XOrg uses 65 Mb. I strongly suggest you check on your installation, something must be wrong somewhere. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephanos at writeme.com Fri Jan 2 14:46:28 2015 From: stephanos at writeme.com (stephen) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 14:46:28 +0000 Subject: Wrong Desktop layout in Kubuntu 14.04 Message-ID: <54A6AF44.1050904@writeme.com> Dear All I have just installed Kubuntu 14.04 onto a Dell Inspiron Mini. It has 1GB of RAM and 150GB HDD. The layout of the desktop is different to other installations I have done on my other machines with 14.04. The behaviour of applications is different as well. At the desktop, before any applications are opened: 1) the taskbar is now at the top. It has a new entry in it called Menu 2) below this is a strip of four icons currently Firefox, Kmail, System Settings, Dolphin 3) Below this as another strip of icons: Bookmarks, Contact, Multimedi, Internet, Graphics, Education, Office 4) When I start an application the taskbar at the top is still present and the normal menu items I would have associated with that application are now accessible via the menu item in the taskbar. I do not like this layout. I did not chose this layout. I do not want this layout. This laptop is for my niece who will be new to linux and I intend to support her as I use 14.04 on several laptops and desktops. I do not have this layout on any of my others computers. I do not intend to have this layout on any of them either. How do I change to the layout/behaviour I want and know. Wait to hear Stephanos Impatiently of London, England From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 14:55:39 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:55:39 +0200 Subject: Wrong Desktop layout in Kubuntu 14.04 In-Reply-To: <54A6AF44.1050904@writeme.com> References: <54A6AF44.1050904@writeme.com> Message-ID: <54A6B16B.3070206@gmail.com> On 02/01/2015 16:46, stephen wrote: > Dear All > > I have just installed Kubuntu 14.04 onto a Dell Inspiron Mini. It has > 1GB of RAM and 150GB HDD. > > The layout of the desktop is different to other installations I have > done on my other machines with 14.04. The behaviour of applications is > different as well. > > At the desktop, before any applications are opened: > 1) the taskbar is now at the top. It has a new entry in it called Menu > 2) below this is a strip of four icons currently Firefox, Kmail, System > Settings, Dolphin > 3) Below this as another strip of icons: Bookmarks, Contact, Multimedi, > Internet, Graphics, Education, Office > 4) When I start an application the taskbar at the top is still present > and the normal menu items I would have associated with that application > are now accessible via the menu item in the taskbar. > > I do not like this layout. I did not chose this layout. I do not want > this layout. This laptop is for my niece who will be new to linux and I > intend to support her as I use 14.04 on several laptops and desktops. I > do not have this layout on any of my others computers. I do not intend > to have this layout on any of them either. > > How do I change to the layout/behaviour I want and know. > I think it has installed the netbook interface, given the type of laptop. Find System Settings, go to Workspace Behaviour and select "Workspace". There is a box "Workspace Type", change from Netbook to Desktop and reboot kind regards, Sinclair From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 18:36:02 2015 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 13:36:02 -0500 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: References: <54A62439.2040303@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 5:53 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > >> On 01/01/2015 18:28, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa >> > > >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used compiz and it >> > didn't leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing kwin with compiz >> > on a kde session (it worked, mostly), had some compatibility issues, >> > but I was able to use it for several hours. I later tried "unity" >> > session with compiz and many effects enabled: it worked just fine >> too. >> > >> > Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and refrain from >> > changing any settings. I am still observing and will update. >> > >> > >> > It leaks memory, at a slower rate, but still X memory usage gets to over >> > 2GB in less than 12 hours. >> > >> I am not seeing this at all on my laptop with intel i5 cpu and intel >> graphics, > > > Same here, no leaks whatsoever with Kubuntu 14.10, KDE 4.14.2 with Intel > on board graphics on this Intel Core i7 laptop. Uptime is now around 90 > hours, Kwin uses 14 Mb of shared memory, XOrg uses 65 Mb. > > I strongly suggest you check on your installation, something must be wrong > somewhere. > I think I already did it, I tried to wipe *all* KDE configurations, tried to purge and reinstall, finally tried another windows manager (compiz), since I switched from kwin to compiz: no issues. There is *something* peculiar about KDE code in general that has a tendency on "exposing" driver issues, there was a time when "konsole" would crash nvidia drivers, and would cause other issues with AMD drivers (random freezing), KDE's solution was something like "hey, it is a driver issue, not our fault, the driver maker should fix it", and the problem remained there for *years*, I cared *so* much about KDE, that I stopped using konsole and still used the rest of the desktop, however, my coworkers just switched to other windows managers, and even other OS. It is already hard to get people out of the "Unity" momentum caused by Ubuntu, it is even harder if KDE can't run reliably, but Unity or Gnome does... people won't think about drivers and stuff, they will point to KDE, even if it is not KDE's fault, because Gnome and Unity work just fine (I really don't know if they implemented workarounds or whatever, but the facts are: Gnome AND Unity work just fine with nVidia, AMD, and Intel, whereas KDE only seems to work reliably on Intel, and mostly nVidia, at least recently). It is painful for me, but this time I was not able to stop using just the part of KDE that was failing (like I did with konsole a few years ago), because compiz won't work reliably with KDE, so, I had to switch desktop environment (because I won't stop using my GPU just for a desktop environment, and because I have no other GPU I can use with OpenCL). I will keep an eye on KDE, because I really like it, but for the time being, I have to work, and I just can't do that with KDE for now. Ildefonso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 07:51:54 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 09:51:54 +0200 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: References: <54A62439.2040303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54A79F9A.9050303@gmail.com> On 02/01/2015 20:36, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Myriam Schweingruber > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 5:53 AM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > On 01/01/2015 18:28, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used compiz and it > > didn't leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing kwin with compiz > > on a kde session (it worked, mostly), had some compatibility issues, > > but I was able to use it for several hours. I later tried "unity" > > session with compiz and many effects enabled: it worked just fine too. > > > > Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and refrain from > > changing any settings. I am still observing and will update. > > > > > > It leaks memory, at a slower rate, but still X memory usage gets to over > > 2GB in less than 12 hours. > > > I am not seeing this at all on my laptop with intel i5 cpu and intel > graphics, > > > Same here, no leaks whatsoever with Kubuntu 14.10, KDE 4.14.2 with > Intel on board graphics on this Intel Core i7 laptop. Uptime is now > around 90 hours, Kwin uses 14 Mb of shared memory, XOrg uses 65 Mb. > > I strongly suggest you check on your installation, something must be > wrong somewhere. > > > > I think I already did it, I tried to wipe *all* KDE configurations, > tried to purge and reinstall, finally tried another windows manager > (compiz), since I switched from kwin to compiz: no issues. There is > *something* peculiar about KDE code in general that has a tendency on > "exposing" driver issues, there was a time when "konsole" would crash > nvidia drivers, and would cause other issues with AMD drivers (random > freezing), KDE's solution was something like "hey, it is a driver issue, > not our fault, the driver maker should fix it", and the problem remained > there for *years*, I cared *so* much about KDE, that I stopped using > konsole and still used the rest of the desktop, however, my coworkers > just switched to other windows managers, and even other OS. > > It is already hard to get people out of the "Unity" momentum caused by > Ubuntu, it is even harder if KDE can't run reliably, but Unity or Gnome > does... people won't think about drivers and stuff, they will point to > KDE, even if it is not KDE's fault, because Gnome and Unity work just > fine (I really don't know if they implemented workarounds or whatever, > but the facts are: Gnome AND Unity work just fine with nVidia, AMD, and > Intel, whereas KDE only seems to work reliably on Intel, and mostly > nVidia, at least recently). > > It is painful for me, but this time I was not able to stop using just > the part of KDE that was failing (like I did with konsole a few years > ago), because compiz won't work reliably with KDE, so, I had to switch > desktop environment (because I won't stop using my GPU just for a > desktop environment, and because I have no other GPU I can use with OpenCL). > > I will keep an eye on KDE, because I really like it, but for the time > being, I have to work, and I just can't do that with KDE for now. > Given that my laptop has the dreaded hybrid intel/amd graphics I am not so sure you are correct. Or put differently it still works though the AMD is rarely used as I don't game or whatever much From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 4 03:20:45 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 03:20:45 +0000 Subject: How do I enable AHCI Message-ID: I would like to know how I enable AHCI so I can use SATA 4 & 5. I know how to enable it in BIOS but I've heard that I have to do something to the Kernel but I don't know what. Could somebody please help me. Thanks in advance. Pete From mrmazda at earthlink.net Sun Jan 4 03:39:46 2015 From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 22:39:46 -0500 Subject: How do I enable AHCI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54A8B602.9040005@earthlink.net> peter maddison composed on 2015-01-04 03:20 (UTC): > I would like to know how I enable AHCI so I can use SATA 4 & 5. > I know how to enable it in BIOS but I've heard that I have to do Heard where? > something to the Kernel but I don't know what. You would probably have to go all the way back to 6.10 to find a kernel that doesn't use AHCI by default if the BIOS has it enabled. Try this in Konsole to prove you're already using it: dmesg | grep ahci -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 4 03:47:11 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 03:47:11 +0000 Subject: How do I enable AHCI In-Reply-To: <54A8B602.9040005@earthlink.net> References: <54A8B602.9040005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Heck, you are right (not that I was doubting you in ANY way) [ 2.130533] ahci 0000:00:11.0: version 3.0 [ 2.130806] ahci 0000:00:11.0: AHCI 0001.0100 32 slots 6 ports 3 Gbps 0x3f impl SATA mode [ 2.130809] ahci 0000:00:11.0: flags: 64bit ncq sntf ilck pm led clo pmp pio slum part ccc [ 2.131571] scsi0 : ahci [ 2.131679] scsi1 : ahci [ 2.131891] scsi2 : ahci [ 2.132005] scsi3 : ahci [ 2.132154] scsi4 : ahci [ 2.132200] scsi5 : ahci I have a DVD drive connected to 5 and was wondering why it was not working. I may have to open up the tower and investigate the power connectors... Thanks Felix. On 04/01/15 03:39, Felix Miata wrote: > peter maddison composed on 2015-01-04 03:20 (UTC): > >> I would like to know how I enable AHCI so I can use SATA 4 & 5. >> I know how to enable it in BIOS but I've heard that I have to do > Heard where? > >> something to the Kernel but I don't know what. > You would probably have to go all the way back to 6.10 to find a kernel that > doesn't use AHCI by default if the BIOS has it enabled. > > Try this in Konsole to prove you're already using it: > > dmesg | grep ahci From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Jan 4 04:15:50 2015 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:50 -0500 Subject: How do I enable AHCI In-Reply-To: References: <54A8B602.9040005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <201501032315.50770.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Saturday, January 03, 2015 10:47:11 PM peter maddison did opine And Gene did reply: > Heck, you are right (not that I was doubting you in ANY way) > > [ 2.130533] ahci 0000:00:11.0: version 3.0 > [ 2.130806] ahci 0000:00:11.0: AHCI 0001.0100 32 slots 6 ports 3 > Gbps 0x3f impl SATA mode > [ 2.130809] ahci 0000:00:11.0: flags: 64bit ncq sntf ilck pm led clo > pmp pio slum part ccc > [ 2.131571] scsi0 : ahci > [ 2.131679] scsi1 : ahci > [ 2.131891] scsi2 : ahci > [ 2.132005] scsi3 : ahci > [ 2.132154] scsi4 : ahci > [ 2.132200] scsi5 : ahci > > I have a DVD drive connected to 5 and was wondering why it was not > working. I may have to open up the tower and investigate the power > connectors... > Data cables too, particularly if its 4 or 5 years old AND red. The red dye in insulation tends to corrode the wire within. I have actually cut an inch of the stuff off, and working over a clean paper, shook copper oxide dust out the the insulation, there was no actual wire left. > Thanks Felix. > > On 04/01/15 03:39, Felix Miata wrote: > > peter maddison composed on 2015-01-04 03:20 (UTC): > >> I would like to know how I enable AHCI so I can use SATA 4 & 5. > >> I know how to enable it in BIOS but I've heard that I have to do > > > > Heard where? > > > >> something to the Kernel but I don't know what. > > > > You would probably have to go all the way back to 6.10 to find a > > kernel that doesn't use AHCI by default if the BIOS has it enabled. > > > > Try this in Konsole to prove you're already using it: > > dmesg | grep ahci Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Jan 4 04:31:23 2015 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:31:23 -0500 Subject: spamd problem Message-ID: <201501032331.23447.gheskett@wdtv.com> I've got wheezy running. But it apperas some option has been changed, using the identical scripts I was using on 10.04 LTS, my procmail log is now showing: Jan 3 23:18:14 coyote spamc[10096]: connect to spamd on 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#1 of 3): Connection refused Jan 3 23:18:15 coyote spamc[10096]: connect to spamd on 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#2 of 3): Connection refused Jan 3 23:18:16 coyote spamc[10096]: connect to spamd on 127.0.0.1 failed, retrying (#3 of 3): Connection refused Jan 3 23:18:17 coyote spamc[10096]: connection attempt to spamd aborted after 3 retries And I have no clue what that is really trying to tell me. The .procmailrc recipe for it is: :0 * < 50000 * !^List-Id: .*(spamassassin\.apache.\org) { :0 fw: spamassassin.lock | /usr/bin/spamc -x -t 150 -u gene } I could use a clue here. Thanks all. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Jan 4 10:59:45 2015 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:59:45 +0100 Subject: How do I enable AHCI In-Reply-To: <201501032315.50770.gheskett@wdtv.com> References: <54A8B602.9040005@earthlink.net> <201501032315.50770.gheskett@wdtv.com> Message-ID: <20150104115945.1fa02c4a@archlinux> On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:50 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Data cables too, particularly if its 4 or 5 years old AND red. Those red SATA cables in my machine are ok. I need to disconnect and reconnect them sometimes, because the connectors sometimes cause issues. I hot glued the connectors, but it didn't help much, there still is the need to disconnect and reconnect them every now and then. -- IMO this is one of the oddest statements ever: "Linux has never been about ‘choice’ or ‘freedom’ and those myths should just die out. Read: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html" - http://allanmcrae.com/2014/12/pacman-4-2-released/#comment-1256 Actually I use Linux (kernel and user space software) because it at least _was_ about manifoldness and libre (FLOSS). ^"L" is for libre From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Jan 4 11:14:09 2015 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:14:09 +0100 Subject: How do I enable AHCI In-Reply-To: <20150104115945.1fa02c4a@archlinux> References: <54A8B602.9040005@earthlink.net> <201501032315.50770.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20150104115945.1fa02c4a@archlinux> Message-ID: <20150104121409.2e85f208@archlinux> On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:59:45 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:50 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Data cables too, particularly if its 4 or 5 years old AND red. > > Those red SATA cables in my machine are ok. I need to disconnect and > reconnect them sometimes, because the connectors sometimes cause > issues. I hot glued the connectors, but it didn't help much, there > still is the need to disconnect and reconnect them every now and then. PS: The connectors aren't green (oxidized copper), they are golden. Gold isn't a good conductor, but at least it doesn't corrode. From gheskett at wdtv.com Sun Jan 4 12:45:10 2015 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:45:10 -0500 Subject: How do I enable AHCI In-Reply-To: <20150104115945.1fa02c4a@archlinux> References: <201501032315.50770.gheskett@wdtv.com> <20150104115945.1fa02c4a@archlinux> Message-ID: <201501040745.10448.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Sunday, January 04, 2015 05:59:45 AM Ralf Mardorf did opine And Gene did reply: > On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:15:50 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Data cables too, particularly if its 4 or 5 years old AND red. > > Those red SATA cables in my machine are ok. I need to disconnect and > reconnect them sometimes, because the connectors sometimes cause > issues. I hot glued the connectors, but it didn't help much, there > still is the need to disconnect and reconnect them every now and then. yeah, I just had a drive go south yesterday, disconnected it, reconnected it, messages still growing about 10k a minute, pulled it out and reconnected it while hanging out the side of the tower, and everything is cool again. Black data cable, was never disconnected from the mobo. Its not that old a drive. That guy Murphy, the one that wrote all those laws? Lives here part time, drinks my beer too. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From el_nanet5 at msn.com Mon Jan 5 10:56:01 2015 From: el_nanet5 at msn.com (=?iso-8859-1?B?YW5keSBjYXN0YfFlZGEgbWFsZG9uYWRv?=) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 11:56:01 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 14.04 Message-ID: Hello, I installed kubuntu 14.04 with kde 4.13.3, and leaves no set me in Spanish, only in American English, I installed local, and what I've searched forums but did not solve anything, I still have everything in English, I have gnome 3 and when I start session is in Spanish 70%, but in kde only in English, and not let me change to Spanish, some could you please give me solution. I love this distribution, hopefully solve the problem. Andy Castañeda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nils From myriam at kubuntu.org Mon Jan 5 11:46:27 2015 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:46:27 +0100 Subject: Kubuntu 14.04 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Andy, On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:56 AM, andy castañeda maldonado wrote: > Hello, > > I installed kubuntu 14.04 with kde 4.13.3, and leaves no set me in Spanish > , only in American English, I installed local, and what I've searched forums > but did not solve anything, I still have everything in English, I have > gnome 3 and when I start session is in Spanish 70%, but in kde only in > English, and not let me change to Spanish, some could you please give me > solution. > I love this distribution, hopefully solve the problem. > > > Well, changing your locale settings in Gnome will only apply to Gnome and drag in language packages for Gnome only. If you want to set KDE to another language, have a look at the KDE System Settings -> Region and Language and add Spanish to the list, it should then propose the installation of the Spanish language packages for KDE. Mind you: language changes will then only apply to KDE programs after a restart of the desktop, non-KDE tools (Firefox or LibreOffice for example) have their own set of language packages. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 21:19:59 2015 From: ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com (Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:19:59 -0500 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: <54A79F9A.9050303@gmail.com> References: <54A62439.2040303@gmail.com> <54A79F9A.9050303@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:51 AM, O. Sinclair wrote: > On 02/01/2015 20:36, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Myriam Schweingruber > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 5:53 AM, O. Sinclair > > wrote: > > > > On 01/01/2015 18:28, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa > > > ildefonso.camargo at gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used compiz > and it > > > didn't leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing kwin > with compiz > > > on a kde session (it worked, mostly), had some > compatibility issues, > > > but I was able to use it for several hours. I later tried > "unity" > > > session with compiz and many effects enabled: it worked > just fine too. > > > > > > Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and refrain > from > > > changing any settings. I am still observing and will > update. > > > > > > > > > It leaks memory, at a slower rate, but still X memory usage > gets to over > > > 2GB in less than 12 hours. > > > > > I am not seeing this at all on my laptop with intel i5 cpu and > intel > > graphics, > > > > > > Same here, no leaks whatsoever with Kubuntu 14.10, KDE 4.14.2 with > > Intel on board graphics on this Intel Core i7 laptop. Uptime is now > > around 90 hours, Kwin uses 14 Mb of shared memory, XOrg uses 65 Mb. > > > > I strongly suggest you check on your installation, something must be > > wrong somewhere. > > > > > > > > I think I already did it, I tried to wipe *all* KDE configurations, > > tried to purge and reinstall, finally tried another windows manager > > (compiz), since I switched from kwin to compiz: no issues. There is > > *something* peculiar about KDE code in general that has a tendency on > > "exposing" driver issues, there was a time when "konsole" would crash > > nvidia drivers, and would cause other issues with AMD drivers (random > > freezing), KDE's solution was something like "hey, it is a driver issue, > > not our fault, the driver maker should fix it", and the problem remained > > there for *years*, I cared *so* much about KDE, that I stopped using > > konsole and still used the rest of the desktop, however, my coworkers > > just switched to other windows managers, and even other OS. > > > > It is already hard to get people out of the "Unity" momentum caused by > > Ubuntu, it is even harder if KDE can't run reliably, but Unity or Gnome > > does... people won't think about drivers and stuff, they will point to > > KDE, even if it is not KDE's fault, because Gnome and Unity work just > > fine (I really don't know if they implemented workarounds or whatever, > > but the facts are: Gnome AND Unity work just fine with nVidia, AMD, and > > Intel, whereas KDE only seems to work reliably on Intel, and mostly > > nVidia, at least recently). > > > > It is painful for me, but this time I was not able to stop using just > > the part of KDE that was failing (like I did with konsole a few years > > ago), because compiz won't work reliably with KDE, so, I had to switch > > desktop environment (because I won't stop using my GPU just for a > > desktop environment, and because I have no other GPU I can use with > OpenCL). > > > > I will keep an eye on KDE, because I really like it, but for the time > > being, I have to work, and I just can't do that with KDE for now. > > > Given that my laptop has the dreaded hybrid intel/amd graphics I am not > so sure you are correct. Or put differently it still works though the > AMD is rarely used as I don't game or whatever much > I am not sure you will be able to make kwin use AMD chipset on that laptop. Next time either the graphics driver gets updated, or when next KDE gets released, I will give another try, for now, I just leave this piece of warning to those fellow AMD users out there: keep an eye on X memory usage while using KDE. It is likely that using free driver will fix this, but it just doesn't work with my current GPU (and OpenCL was not properly supported last time I checked). Unfortunately, some apps would be *really* slow on KDE with desktop effects disable (only workaround I was able to find without dropping KDE), particularly in LibreOffice you can see toolbar icons being draw one at a time... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 06:24:18 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 08:24:18 +0200 Subject: X memory leak with desktop effects enabled. In-Reply-To: References: <54A62439.2040303@gmail.com> <54A79F9A.9050303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54AB7F92.9010206@gmail.com> On 05/01/2015 23:19, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:51 AM, O. Sinclair > wrote: > > On 02/01/2015 20:36, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Myriam Schweingruber > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 5:53 AM, O. Sinclair > > >> wrote: > > > > On 01/01/2015 18:28, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I am confirming this only occurs with kwin, I used > compiz and it > > > didn't leak memory for 12 hours. I tried replacing > kwin with compiz > > > on a kde session (it worked, mostly), had some > compatibility issues, > > > but I was able to use it for several hours. I later > tried "unity" > > > session with compiz and many effects enabled: it > worked just fine too. > > > > > > Today I tried to wipe-clean my .kde directory, and > refrain from > > > changing any settings. I am still observing and > will update. > > > > > > > > > It leaks memory, at a slower rate, but still X memory > usage gets to over > > > 2GB in less than 12 hours. > > > > > I am not seeing this at all on my laptop with intel i5 cpu > and intel > > graphics, > > > > > > Same here, no leaks whatsoever with Kubuntu 14.10, KDE 4.14.2 with > > Intel on board graphics on this Intel Core i7 laptop. Uptime > is now > > around 90 hours, Kwin uses 14 Mb of shared memory, XOrg uses > 65 Mb. > > > > I strongly suggest you check on your installation, something > must be > > wrong somewhere. > > > > > > > > I think I already did it, I tried to wipe *all* KDE configurations, > > tried to purge and reinstall, finally tried another windows manager > > (compiz), since I switched from kwin to compiz: no issues. There is > > *something* peculiar about KDE code in general that has a tendency on > > "exposing" driver issues, there was a time when "konsole" would crash > > nvidia drivers, and would cause other issues with AMD drivers (random > > freezing), KDE's solution was something like "hey, it is a driver > issue, > > not our fault, the driver maker should fix it", and the problem > remained > > there for *years*, I cared *so* much about KDE, that I stopped using > > konsole and still used the rest of the desktop, however, my coworkers > > just switched to other windows managers, and even other OS. > > > > It is already hard to get people out of the "Unity" momentum caused by > > Ubuntu, it is even harder if KDE can't run reliably, but Unity or > Gnome > > does... people won't think about drivers and stuff, they will point to > > KDE, even if it is not KDE's fault, because Gnome and Unity work just > > fine (I really don't know if they implemented workarounds or whatever, > > but the facts are: Gnome AND Unity work just fine with nVidia, > AMD, and > > Intel, whereas KDE only seems to work reliably on Intel, and mostly > > nVidia, at least recently). > > > > It is painful for me, but this time I was not able to stop using just > > the part of KDE that was failing (like I did with konsole a few years > > ago), because compiz won't work reliably with KDE, so, I had to > switch > > desktop environment (because I won't stop using my GPU just for a > > desktop environment, and because I have no other GPU I can use > with OpenCL). > > > > I will keep an eye on KDE, because I really like it, but for the time > > being, I have to work, and I just can't do that with KDE for now. > > > Given that my laptop has the dreaded hybrid intel/amd graphics I am not > so sure you are correct. Or put differently it still works though the > AMD is rarely used as I don't game or whatever much > > > I am not sure you will be able to make kwin use AMD chipset on that > laptop. Next time either the graphics driver gets updated, or when next > KDE gets released, I will give another try, for now, I just leave this > piece of warning to those fellow AMD users out there: keep an eye on X > memory usage while using KDE. It is likely that using free driver will > fix this, but it just doesn't work with my current GPU (and OpenCL was > not properly supported last time I checked). > > Unfortunately, some apps would be *really* slow on KDE with desktop > effects disable (only workaround I was able to find without dropping > KDE), particularly in LibreOffice you can see toolbar icons being draw > one at a time... > Well I do use the radeon driver as the fglrx for some reason stopped working with my hardware since kubuntu 11.10 (if I recall correct). It gives me no problems and as I don't really do anything that needs a "better" gpu than the Intel I am not worried From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 11:51:46 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:51:46 -0500 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? Message-ID: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> Hi, I installed Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit onto two different desktops. I am confused about proprietary and open-source display drivers. On my Intel/nVidia desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am prompted to install nVidia proprietary display driver which I do and all is well. On my AMD/AMD desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am NOT prompted to install AMD proprietary display driver? So everything is good on the Intel/nVidia desktop, but not on AMD/AMD desktop. Are the AMD proprietary display drivers bad? Are the open-source AMD drivers OK? (can I play 3D Windows games under WINE?) Just a little confused, please advise... Jesse From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Jan 7 12:04:10 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:04:10 -0600 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> Message-ID: <54AD20BA.1020704@swbell.net> On 01/07/2015 05:51 AM, Jesse Palser wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit onto two different desktops. > I am confused about proprietary and open-source display drivers. > > On my Intel/nVidia desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am prompted > to install > nVidia proprietary display driver which I do and all is well. > > On my AMD/AMD desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am NOT prompted > to install > AMD proprietary display driver? > > So everything is good on the Intel/nVidia desktop, but not on AMD/AMD > desktop. > Are the AMD proprietary display drivers bad? > Are the open-source AMD drivers OK? > (can I play 3D Windows games under WINE?) > > Just a little confused, please advise... > > Jesse > I'm using the AMD Catalyst drivers. As far as I am concerned they are just fine and all is well. I'm not a gamer so I can't say what your experience might be in that arena. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 13:09:47 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:09:47 -0500 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: <54AD20BA.1020704@swbell.net> References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> <54AD20BA.1020704@swbell.net> Message-ID: <54AD301B.4070205@GMail.com> On 01/07/2015 07:04 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 01/07/2015 05:51 AM, Jesse Palser wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I installed Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit onto two different desktops. >> I am confused about proprietary and open-source display drivers. >> >> On my Intel/nVidia desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am prompted >> to install >> nVidia proprietary display driver which I do and all is well. >> >> On my AMD/AMD desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am NOT prompted >> to install >> AMD proprietary display driver? >> >> So everything is good on the Intel/nVidia desktop, but not on AMD/AMD >> desktop. >> Are the AMD proprietary display drivers bad? >> Are the open-source AMD drivers OK? >> (can I play 3D Windows games under WINE?) >> >> Just a little confused, please advise... >> >> Jesse >> > > I'm using the AMD Catalyst drivers. As far as I am concerned they are > just fine and all is well. I'm not a gamer so I can't say what your > experience might be in that arena. > Hi, I tried the AMD proprietary display drivers, both offered by Kubuntu and then the one on the AMD site. Seems to work ok, but I have problem with transparency of panels and windows? (under any AMD proprietary display driver transparency effects are not working?) I would like to use AMD proprietary display driver but don't know how to fix above problem with transparency? Thanks! Jesse From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Jan 7 13:32:45 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 07:32:45 -0600 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: <54AD301B.4070205@GMail.com> References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> <54AD20BA.1020704@swbell.net> <54AD301B.4070205@GMail.com> Message-ID: <54AD357D.4090400@swbell.net> On 01/07/2015 07:09 AM, Jesse Palser wrote: > > On 01/07/2015 07:04 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> On 01/07/2015 05:51 AM, Jesse Palser wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I installed Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit onto two different desktops. >>> I am confused about proprietary and open-source display drivers. >>> >>> On my Intel/nVidia desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am >>> prompted to install >>> nVidia proprietary display driver which I do and all is well. >>> >>> On my AMD/AMD desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am NOT prompted >>> to install >>> AMD proprietary display driver? >>> >>> So everything is good on the Intel/nVidia desktop, but not on >>> AMD/AMD desktop. >>> Are the AMD proprietary display drivers bad? >>> Are the open-source AMD drivers OK? >>> (can I play 3D Windows games under WINE?) >>> >>> Just a little confused, please advise... >>> >>> Jesse >>> >> >> I'm using the AMD Catalyst drivers. As far as I am concerned they are >> just fine and all is well. I'm not a gamer so I can't say what your >> experience might be in that arena. >> > Hi, > > I tried the AMD proprietary display drivers, both offered by Kubuntu > and then the one on the AMD site. > Seems to work ok, but I have problem with transparency of panels and > windows? > (under any AMD proprietary display driver transparency effects are not > working?) > > I would like to use AMD proprietary display driver but don't know how > to fix above problem with transparency? > Thanks! > > Jesse > I have no idea on that. If I am understanding what you are saying above the transparency works for me. Maybe a setting in System Settings? -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From clay at claydoh.com Wed Jan 7 13:42:20 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:42:20 -0500 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> Message-ID: It is possible that your GPU is not supported with the closed source, proprietary driver. You didn't say what card you have, but AMD do seem to drop device support much earlier than Nvidia. On January 7, 2015 6:51:46 AM EST, Jesse Palser wrote: >Hi, > >I installed Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit onto two different desktops. >I am confused about proprietary and open-source display drivers. > >On my Intel/nVidia desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am prompted >to >install >nVidia proprietary display driver which I do and all is well. > >On my AMD/AMD desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am NOT prompted to > >install >AMD proprietary display driver? > >So everything is good on the Intel/nVidia desktop, but not on AMD/AMD >desktop. >Are the AMD proprietary display drivers bad? >Are the open-source AMD drivers OK? >(can I play 3D Windows games under WINE?) > >Just a little confused, please advise... > >Jesse > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 13:51:59 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:51:59 -0500 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> Message-ID: <54AD39FF.4020907@GMail.com> Hi, I have an AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 graphic adapter. Is it supported by AMD proprietary display driver? Thanks! Jesse On 01/07/2015 08:42 AM, Clay Weber wrote: > It is possible that your GPU is not supported with the closed source, > proprietary driver. You didn't say what card you have, but AMD do seem > to drop device support much earlier than Nvidia. > > On January 7, 2015 6:51:46 AM EST, Jesse Palser > wrote: > > Hi, > > I installed Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit onto two different desktops. > I am confused about proprietary and open-source display drivers. > > On my Intel/nVidia desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am prompted to > install > nVidia proprietary display driver which I do and all is well. > > On my AMD/AMD desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am NOT prompted to > install > AMD proprietary display driver? > > So everything is good on the Intel/nVidia desktop, but not on AMD/AMD > desktop. > Are the AMD proprietary display drivers bad? > Are the open-source AMD drivers OK? > (can I play 3D Windows games under WINE?) > > Just a little confused, please advise... > > Jesse > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joern.schoenyan at web.de Wed Jan 7 13:57:05 2015 From: joern.schoenyan at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Sch=F6nyan?=) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 14:57:05 +0100 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source =?iso-8859-1?Q?Drivers=3F?= In-Reply-To: <54AD39FF.4020907@GMail.com> References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> <54AD39FF.4020907@GMail.com> Message-ID: <7eab589b-0748-4baa-8e16-457fa4ef60ee@web.de> On Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 14:51:59 CET, Jesse Palser wrote: > Hi, > > I have an AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 graphic adapter. > Is it supported by AMD proprietary display driver? > Thanks! > > Jesse Don't forget: you have 2 graphic chips, that means a hybrid system. It seems, you need 14.10 to get it working properly: http://askubuntu.com/questions/522177/intel-amd-hybrid-graphics-on-ubuntu-14-04 Regards, Jörn From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 14:31:33 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:31:33 -0500 Subject: Installed 14.10 64Bit - On Boot I Get A Black Screen? Message-ID: <54AD4345.2070608@GMail.com> Hi, OK, I installed Kubuntu 14.10 64Bit onto the following desktop computer system: - AMD FX 3.5GHz 8-Core C.P.U. - AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Adapter - 32GB DDR3 RAM This is a new install of Kubuntu onto above desktop from DVD. The install is successful, but after reboot I get a black screen and the monitor turns off? The weird thing is if I cold boot I get the black screen, but if I press reset I then get a menu and can boot into O.S.? Any help would be appreciated, thanks! Jesse From joern.schoenyan at web.de Wed Jan 7 14:48:42 2015 From: joern.schoenyan at web.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn_Sch=F6nyan?=) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 15:48:42 +0100 Subject: Installed 14.10 64Bit - On Boot I Get A Black =?iso-8859-1?Q?Screen=3F?= In-Reply-To: <54AD4345.2070608@GMail.com> References: <54AD4345.2070608@GMail.com> Message-ID: <1693637a-4248-4303-9605-0ab95ddd7194@web.de> On Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 15:31:33 CET, Jesse Palser wrote: > Hi, > > OK, I installed Kubuntu 14.10 64Bit onto the following desktop > computer system: > - AMD FX 3.5GHz 8-Core C.P.U. > - AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Adapter > - 32GB DDR3 RAM Sorry Jesse, I messed that a bit up - it is not a hybrid system, I thought you were talking about a notebook. > This is a new install of Kubuntu onto above desktop from DVD. > The install is successful, but after reboot I get a black > screen and the monitor turns off? > The weird thing is if I cold boot I get the black screen, but > if I press reset I then get a menu and can boot into O.S.? I'm a bit in a hurry right now, so I can only give you some hints: Use the boot option nomodeset or xforcevesa to boot to the desktop. Then manually install the latest driver from AMD (they call it Omega). That should be enough to get it working. Good luck! > Any help would be appreciated, thanks! > > Jesse > Jörn From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 15:57:44 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 10:57:44 -0500 Subject: Installed 14.10 64Bit - On Boot I Get A Black Screen? In-Reply-To: <1693637a-4248-4303-9605-0ab95ddd7194@web.de> References: <54AD4345.2070608@GMail.com> <1693637a-4248-4303-9605-0ab95ddd7194@web.de> Message-ID: <54AD5778.2070101@GMail.com> Hi, I would like to use the open-source AMD driver. The problem is the O.S. wont boot during a cold boot. (get nothing on the screen when cold booting and monitor shuts off?) Only when I press [Reset] on desktop(warm boot) do I get menu and can enter the O.S. If someone could help me solve the above problem then I would be happy, thanks! (again, it's clean install of Kubuntu 14.10 64Bit) Jesse On 01/07/2015 09:48 AM, Jörn Schönyan wrote: > On Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 15:31:33 CET, Jesse Palser wrote: >> Hi, >> >> OK, I installed Kubuntu 14.10 64Bit onto the following desktop >> computer system: >> - AMD FX 3.5GHz 8-Core C.P.U. >> - AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Adapter >> - 32GB DDR3 RAM > Sorry Jesse, I messed that a bit up - it is not a hybrid system, I > thought you were talking about a notebook. >> This is a new install of Kubuntu onto above desktop from DVD. >> The install is successful, but after reboot I get a black screen and >> the monitor turns off? >> The weird thing is if I cold boot I get the black screen, but if I >> press reset I then get a menu and can boot into O.S.? > I'm a bit in a hurry right now, so I can only give you some hints: > > Use the boot option nomodeset or xforcevesa to boot to the desktop. > Then manually install the latest driver from AMD (they call it Omega). > That should be enough to get it working. Good luck! >> Any help would be appreciated, thanks! >> >> Jesse >> > Jörn From herbywolf at eclipso.de Wed Jan 7 19:42:24 2015 From: herbywolf at eclipso.de (Herbert Wolf) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 19:42:24 +0000 Subject: System- / =?UTF-8?B?QmVudXR6ZXJ2ZXJzY2hsw7xzc2VsdW5n?= Message-ID: <64433dcf0a9d0bc09698d24825bc9c9a@mail.eclipso.de> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stan10x10 at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 21:11:48 2015 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:11:48 -0500 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: <7eab589b-0748-4baa-8e16-457fa4ef60ee@web.de> References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> <54AD39FF.4020907@GMail.com> <7eab589b-0748-4baa-8e16-457fa4ef60ee@web.de> Message-ID: I run 14.04 with a amd 6850 which is a year older card and have no problems The cpy is an Intel I7 with the built in 3000 graphics so I suspect it is not 14.04 or the amd drivers that are the problem. You did install on 2 separate systems and not the same hard drive on one computer. So there should not be any interactions. you could even install 14.04 2x on the same computer so long as you used different hard drives. You might want to delete the amd drivers and reinstall or use an older version of catalyst. If your 14.04 install is pointing to the wrong graphics you might direct it to the specific card you wish to use but I don"t know how to do so. On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Jörn Schönyan wrote: > On Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 14:51:59 CET, Jesse Palser wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I have an AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 graphic adapter. >> Is it supported by AMD proprietary display driver? >> Thanks! >> >> Jesse >> > Don't forget: you have 2 graphic chips, that means a hybrid system. It > seems, you need 14.10 to get it working properly: http://askubuntu.com/ > questions/522177/intel-amd-hybrid-graphics-on-ubuntu-14-04 > > Regards, Jörn > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clydp at juno.com Thu Jan 8 00:06:58 2015 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 00:06:58 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20150107.180658.30527.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Hi Billie Walsh, I don't know if you have the time, but if you do: Can you possibly, on firefox, type in; frostwire for kubuntu 32 bit, then choose item, HOW TO INSTALL FROSTWIRE 5.7.7 on ubuntu, debian, fedora then, when at that page, pg dn twice then a couple of one arrow down clicks. There is a three line code to type in. what I need to know is, will that work for 32 bit kubuntu. thanks ever so much, Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Odd Trick Fights Diabetes "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54adca2683fae4a26656bst04duc From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Jan 8 00:24:50 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 18:24:50 -0600 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20150107.180658.30527.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> References: <20150107.180658.30527.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <54ADCE52.4050009@swbell.net> On 01/07/2015 06:06 PM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Hi Billie Walsh, > I don't know if you have the time, but if you do: > Can you possibly, on firefox, type in; frostwire for kubuntu 32 bit, > then choose item, HOW TO INSTALL FROSTWIRE 5.7.7 on ubuntu, debian, fedora > then, when at that page, pg dn twice then a couple of one arrow down clicks. > There is a three line code to type in. > > what I need to know is, will that work for 32 bit kubuntu. > thanks ever so much, > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Odd Trick Fights Diabetes > "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54adca2683fae4a26656bst04duc > Even easier. Go to: http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/sfnet_frostwire/downloads/FrostWire%205.x/5.7.7/frostwire-5.7.7.all.deb/ You can download the file directly with Firefox. Open Dolphin. Go the the Download directory and find the file "frostwire-5.7.7.all.deb ". Left click. The installer should open to install the program. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From clydp at juno.com Thu Jan 8 00:30:17 2015 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 00:30:17 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20150107.183017.30527.2@webmail01.dca.untd.com> thank you, once again Billie, until you mentioned that the other day, I never heard of DOLPHIN. Do I have that already on KUBUNTU? Or, do I need to download that also? thanks Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Odd Trick Fights Diabetes "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54adcfde8a1914fde6ab8st01duc From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 00:34:19 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 19:34:19 -0500 Subject: Installed 14.10 64Bit - On Boot I Get A Black Screen? In-Reply-To: <1693637a-4248-4303-9605-0ab95ddd7194@web.de> References: <54AD4345.2070608@GMail.com> <1693637a-4248-4303-9605-0ab95ddd7194@web.de> Message-ID: <54ADD08B.9090308@GMail.com> Hi, Too many problems with 14.10, so I installed 14.04 L.T.S. and no problems. I'll wait for the next L.T.S. to upgrade, thanks! Jesse On 01/07/2015 09:48 AM, Jörn Schönyan wrote: > On Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 15:31:33 CET, Jesse Palser wrote: >> Hi, >> >> OK, I installed Kubuntu 14.10 64Bit onto the following desktop >> computer system: >> - AMD FX 3.5GHz 8-Core C.P.U. >> - AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 Graphic Adapter >> - 32GB DDR3 RAM > Sorry Jesse, I messed that a bit up - it is not a hybrid system, I > thought you were talking about a notebook. >> This is a new install of Kubuntu onto above desktop from DVD. >> The install is successful, but after reboot I get a black screen and >> the monitor turns off? >> The weird thing is if I cold boot I get the black screen, but if I >> press reset I then get a menu and can boot into O.S.? > I'm a bit in a hurry right now, so I can only give you some hints: > > Use the boot option nomodeset or xforcevesa to boot to the desktop. > Then manually install the latest driver from AMD (they call it Omega). > That should be enough to get it working. Good luck! >> Any help would be appreciated, thanks! >> >> Jesse >> > Jörn From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 00:35:46 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 19:35:46 -0500 Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> <54AD39FF.4020907@GMail.com> <7eab589b-0748-4baa-8e16-457fa4ef60ee@web.de> Message-ID: <54ADD0E2.9050804@GMail.com> Hi, I installed 14.04 L.T.S. and the AMD proprietary display driver and everything is ok. I'll wait for the next L.T.S. to upgrade, thanks! Jesse On 01/07/2015 04:11 PM, Uriah Heep wrote: > I run 14.04 with a amd 6850 which is a year older card and have no > problems The cpy is an Intel I7 with the built in 3000 graphics so I > suspect it is not 14.04 or the amd drivers that are the problem. You > did install on 2 separate systems and not the same hard drive on one > computer. So there should not be any interactions. you could even > install 14.04 2x on the same computer so long as you used different > hard drives. You might want to delete the amd drivers and reinstall or > use an older version of catalyst. If your 14.04 install is pointing to > the wrong graphics you might direct it to the specific card you wish > to use but I don"t know how to do so. > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Jörn Schönyan > wrote: > > On Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2015 14:51:59 CET, Jesse Palser wrote: > > Hi, > > I have an AMD Radeon HD 7870 PCIe 2GB GDDR5 graphic adapter. > Is it supported by AMD proprietary display driver? > Thanks! > > Jesse > > Don't forget: you have 2 graphic chips, that means a hybrid > system. It seems, you need 14.10 to get it working properly: > http://askubuntu.com/questions/522177/intel-amd-hybrid-graphics-on-ubuntu-14-04 > > Regards, Jörn > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Jan 8 00:47:41 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 18:47:41 -0600 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20150107.183017.30527.2@webmail01.dca.untd.com> References: <20150107.183017.30527.2@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <54ADD3AD.2050708@swbell.net> Yes, you have it. On my computer it is that little icon that looks like a file cabinet right next to the K button. On 01/07/2015 06:30 PM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > thank you, once again Billie, > until you mentioned that the other day, I never heard of DOLPHIN. Do I have that already on KUBUNTU? Or, do I need to download that also? > thanks > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > Odd Trick Fights Diabetes > "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54adcfde8a1914fde6ab8st01duc > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From clydp at juno.com Thu Jan 8 00:55:33 2015 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 00:55:33 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20150107.185533.7293.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Thanks again Billie. Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Odd Trick Fights Diabetes "Unique" Proven Method To Control Blood Sugar In 3 Weeks. Watch Video. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54add5afd8aa455af526est04duc From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 03:41:38 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 22:41:38 -0500 Subject: Chrome Flickering After Running OpenGL App In VMWare Player? Message-ID: <54ADFC72.70608@GMail.com> Chrome Flickering After Running OpenGL App In VMWare Player? Hi, I've come across a strange problem with my 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit Kubuntu: If I run an OpenGL app in WMware Player(Win 8.1 Pro 64Bit) and then play a YouTube video in Google Chrome Google Chrome flickers very rapidly? (I must close the OpenGL app in VM and also must close Google Chrome and restart it) Using the most current versions of Google Chrome and VMWare Player. On an AMD/AMD desktop with Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit fully updated. Also running the current beta proprietary AMD display driver from AMD site. Anyone know how to fix this issue? (I watch alot of YouTube while testing OpenGL apps in Win 8.1 VM) Thank you! Jesse From jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 03:55:11 2015 From: jessepalsermailinglists at gmail.com (Jesse Palser) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 22:55:11 -0500 Subject: Chrome Flickering After Running OpenGL App In VMWare Player? In-Reply-To: <54ADFC72.70608@GMail.com> References: <54ADFC72.70608@GMail.com> Message-ID: <54ADFF9F.5000102@GMail.com> Hi, It's not an OpenGL app, it was DirectX, but problem still persists. And now it's VMWare Player which is flickering constantly? Also tried current Oracle VirtualBox and same problem? Thanks! Jesse On 01/07/2015 10:41 PM, Jesse Palser wrote: > Chrome Flickering After Running OpenGL App In VMWare Player? > > Hi, > > I've come across a strange problem with my 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit Kubuntu: > If I run an OpenGL app in WMware Player(Win 8.1 Pro 64Bit) > and then play a YouTube video in Google Chrome > Google Chrome flickers very rapidly? > (I must close the OpenGL app in VM and also must close Google Chrome > and restart it) > > Using the most current versions of Google Chrome and VMWare Player. > On an AMD/AMD desktop with Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit fully updated. > Also running the current beta proprietary AMD display driver from AMD > site. > > Anyone know how to fix this issue? > (I watch alot of YouTube while testing OpenGL apps in Win 8.1 VM) > > Thank you! > > Jesse From littlergirl at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 15:34:17 2015 From: littlergirl at gmail.com (Little Girl) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:34:17 -0500 Subject: System- / =?UTF-8?B?QmVudXR6ZXJ2ZXJzY2hsw7xzc2VsdW5n?= In-Reply-To: <64433dcf0a9d0bc09698d24825bc9c9a@mail.eclipso.de> References: <64433dcf0a9d0bc09698d24825bc9c9a@mail.eclipso.de> Message-ID: <54aea392.a5628c0a.5cb0.ffffb745@mx.google.com> Hallo Herbert, Herbert Wolf wrote: German: > Hallo experten, > > Ich würde gern ein System anlegen, dass komplett verschlüsselt ist > - soweit kein Problem. Jetzt meine ungewöhnliche Idee. > Beim Start des Systems, soll das System nur hochfahren, wenn > > (1. eine bestimmte Datei auf einem USB-Stick vorhanden ist, oder > 2. eine bestimmte Datei auf einem anderen Rechner (Raspberri Pi) im > internen Netzwerk vorhanden ist,) und 3. ein Passwort eingegeben > wird. Also (1 oder 2) und 3 > Es soll jedoch grundsätzlich keine Warnung erfolgen, wenn 1 oder 2 > nicht gegeben sind. > > Die Anmeldung eines Benutzers soll ebenfalls nur nach den oben > genannten Kriterien möglich sein. > > Notfalls kann auf die Systemverschlüsselung verzichtet werden. > > Vielen Dank > > Herbert English: Hello experts, I would like to create a system that is fully encrypted - so far no problem. Now my unusual idea. When the computer is started, the operating system should only load when: (1. a specific file exists on a USB stick, or 2. a specific file exists on another computer (Raspberri Pi) in the internal network) and 3. a password is entered. Thus, (1 or 2) and 3 However, there should be no warning when 1 or 2 are not met. User log-in should only be possible if the above criteria are met. If necessary, encryption can be waived Many thanks, Herbert Geman response: Grub2 benutzerdefinierte Menüs könnten vielleicht sowas tun: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/CustomMenus English response: Grub2 custom menus could maybe do such a thing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/CustomMenus -- Little Girl There is no spoon. From clydp at juno.com Thu Jan 8 16:56:48 2015 From: clydp at juno.com (clydp at juno.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:56:48 GMT Subject: new to K Message-ID: <20150108.105648.18154.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Hi Billie Walsh, You have helped me to advance some more in Kubuntu, but I've a ways to go. I am told I need Java JDK JRE 1.7 +, I understand the + means a higher ver, I did go to Java site, but I cannot seem to get it down loaded and installed. Can you help me on this one too? thanks a bunch, Clyde Poldrack clydp at juno.com ____________________________________________________________ Apple's Crazy New Gizmo Forget the iPhone 6. Next hit Apple product leaked. (see picture) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54aeb6e0a272236e04a6dst02duc From bilwalsh at swbell.net Thu Jan 8 17:46:54 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:46:54 -0600 Subject: new to K In-Reply-To: <20150108.105648.18154.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> References: <20150108.105648.18154.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <54AEC28E.2030205@swbell.net> On 01/08/2015 10:56 AM, clydp at juno.com wrote: > Hi Billie Walsh, > You have helped me to advance some more in Kubuntu, but I've a ways to go. > I am told I need Java JDK JRE 1.7 +, I understand the + means a higher ver, I did go to Java site, but I cannot seem to get it down loaded and installed. > Can you help me on this one too? > thanks a bunch, > > > Clyde Poldrack > > clydp at juno.com There are some issues with Java lately. In almost all situations Google will help you if you ask the right questions. that's how I found that deb file for you yesterday. Check the first couple in the list on: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=java+in+kubuntu+14.04&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From richard at underpope.com Sat Jan 10 17:44:30 2015 From: richard at underpope.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 09:44:30 -0800 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access Message-ID: In order to change certain printer settings -- page size, print quality, and so on -- I have to be logged in as root on my 14.10 install, running KDE 4.14.1. I can't access these settings through any application that I want to print with, nor with the system settings dialog. The only way I can get to them is to run $ sudo systemsettings from the command line and change the settings there. Anyone know how to fix this? -- Sláinte, Richard S. 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Put yourself in the 'lpadmin' group: sudo usermod -a -G lpadmin From kassube at gmx.net Sat Jan 10 18:23:48 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 19:23:48 +0100 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2649223.AJYNyTLENr@p5915> Richard S. Crawford wrote: > In order to change certain printer settings -- page size, print > quality, and so on -- I have to be logged in as root on my 14.10 > install, running KDE 4.14.1. I can't access these settings through > any application that I want to print with, nor with the system > settings dialog. The only way I can get to them is to run Usually you could change the cups printer settings with your browser at . There you also will be asked for your credentials, but you use your standard login and password. > $ sudo systemsettings That is a bad idea. You should use kdesudo systemsettings instead because using sudo for grahical applications might change ownership for files in your home folder. That would lead at least to confusion later. See . Nils From clay at claydoh.com Sat Jan 10 19:20:19 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:20:19 -0500 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2482832.cRUUY2CFz2@gus-latitude-d830> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 09:44:30 AM Richard S. Crawford wrote: > In order to change certain printer settings -- page size, print quality, > and so on -- I have to be logged in as root on my 14.10 install, running > KDE 4.14.1. I can't access these settings through any application that I > want to print with, nor with the system settings dialog. The only way I can > get to them is to run > > $ sudo systemsettings > > from the command line and change the settings there. > > Anyone know how to fix this? As others have mentioned, running graphical programs with sudo is not a good thing to do, especially System Settings - there, if something requires admin privileges, it will prompt you for the password. Don't even run System Settings with kdesudo. Your config file ownerships are definitely changed. to fix this, you will need to run this command to make sure all the files have the correct ownerships sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername This will go through all the files in your home directory and change them back as required. You will be able to use System Settings as normal again. -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Jan 10 19:59:25 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 13:59:25 -0600 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54B1849D.8020504@swbell.net> Open your browser and in the address use localhost: 631 You will need to use your password. On 01/10/2015 11:44 AM, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > In order to change certain printer settings -- page size, print > quality, and so on -- I have to be logged in as root on my 14.10 > install, running KDE 4.14.1. I can't access these settings through any > application that I want to print with, nor with the system settings > dialog. The only way I can get to them is to run > > $ sudo systemsettings > > from the command line and change the settings there. > > Anyone know how to fix this? > > -- > Sláinte, > Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com > ) http://www.underpope.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope > > > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richard at underpope.com Sun Jan 11 01:30:51 2015 From: richard at underpope.com (Richard S. Crawford) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2015 17:30:51 -0800 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: <54B1849D.8020504@swbell.net> References: <54B1849D.8020504@swbell.net> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Billie Walsh wrote: > Open your browser and in the address use localhost: 631 > > You will need to use your password. > > > On 01/10/2015 11:44 AM, Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > In order to change certain printer settings -- page size, print quality, > and so on -- I have to be logged in as root on my 14.10 install, running > KDE 4.14.1. I can't access these settings through any application that I > want to print with, nor with the system settings dialog. The only way I can > get to them is to run > > $ sudo systemsettings > > from the command line and change the settings there. > > Anyone know how to fix this? > > -- > Sláinte, > Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com > Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope > > > > > > -- > “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > I've now done the following: Executed: $ sudo chown -R : and $ sudo usermod -G lpadmin Neither of these seemed to work. I've logged in to the CUPS administration screen via localhost:631, but I'm not sure what I'm doing there. -- Sláinte, Richard S. Crawford (richard at underpope.com) http://www.underpope.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/underpope Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/underpope -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clay at claydoh.com Sun Jan 11 05:02:32 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 00:02:32 -0500 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: References: <54B1849D.8020504@swbell.net> Message-ID: <6737418.NrZXHuI8Sm@gus-latitude-d830> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 05:30:51 PM Richard S. Crawford wrote: > > I've now done the following: > > Executed: > > $ sudo chown -R : > Do it exactly as I suggested sudo chown -R username:username /home/username You didn't specify the proper path to your home directory, which is /home/username. Depending on how many files you have there, it should take a moment or 5. -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From kassube at gmx.net Sun Jan 11 07:13:35 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 08:13:35 +0100 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: <6737418.NrZXHuI8Sm@gus-latitude-d830> References: <6737418.NrZXHuI8Sm@gus-latitude-d830> Message-ID: <1957723.7IyK5HNPd5@p5915> Clay Weber wrote: > Do it exactly as I suggested > > sudo chown -R username:username /home/username A copy and paste version of the command would be this: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME That should avoid wrong substitutions. :) Nils From kassube at gmx.net Sun Jan 11 07:27:41 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 08:27:41 +0100 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: References: <54B1849D.8020504@swbell.net> Message-ID: <41796148.pCs5mmyU2m@p5915> Richard S. Crawford wrote: > I've logged in to the CUPS administration screen via localhost:631, > but I'm not sure what I'm doing there. First select the "printers" tab and click on the name of your printer. There you have two selection bars where you can select options. One is labeled "maintenance" and the other is labeled "administration". At the second one you select "modify printer" and at the new page you can modify the printer settings. Nils From clay at claydoh.com Sun Jan 11 11:49:33 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 06:49:33 -0500 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: <1957723.7IyK5HNPd5@p5915> References: <6737418.NrZXHuI8Sm@gus-latitude-d830> <1957723.7IyK5HNPd5@p5915> Message-ID: <1941623.ftiF74ReQ1@gus-latitude-d830> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 08:13:35 AM Nils Kassube wrote: > Clay Weber wrote: > > Do it exactly as I suggested > > > > sudo chown -R username:username /home/username > > A copy and paste version of the command would be this: > > sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME > > That should avoid wrong substitutions. :) > > > Nils Yes, you are correct, but often it is clearer to users the long way ;) -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Jan 11 12:12:53 2015 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 13:12:53 +0100 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: <1941623.ftiF74ReQ1@gus-latitude-d830> References: <6737418.NrZXHuI8Sm@gus-latitude-d830> <1957723.7IyK5HNPd5@p5915> <1941623.ftiF74ReQ1@gus-latitude-d830> Message-ID: <20150111131253.2bd903ed@archlinux> On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 06:49:33 -0500, Clay Weber wrote: > > sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME > > That should avoid wrong substitutions. :) > Yes, you are correct, but often it is clearer to users the long way ;) I didn't follow this thread, what do you want to archive by 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME'? [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $USER rocketmouse [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ sudo -i [root at archlinux ~]# echo $USER root [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ su [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# echo $USER rocketmouse To e.g. check if something is started with or without root privileges $USER is useless, then there's the need to check the id: if [ "$(id -u)" = "0" ]; then printf "\nDon't run this script as root :).\n\n"; exit 1; fi However, usage of $HOME is risky too: [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $HOME /home/rocketmouse [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ sudo -i [root at archlinux ~]# echo $HOME /root [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ su [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# echo $HOME /root I don't want to reboot and check how my *buntu installs behave, but they likely behave in the same way ;). Regards, Ralf From kde.lists at yahoo.com Sun Jan 11 12:30:00 2015 From: kde.lists at yahoo.com (Ralf Mardorf) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 13:30:00 +0100 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: <20150111131253.2bd903ed@archlinux> References: <6737418.NrZXHuI8Sm@gus-latitude-d830> <1957723.7IyK5HNPd5@p5915> <1941623.ftiF74ReQ1@gus-latitude-d830> <20150111131253.2bd903ed@archlinux> Message-ID: <20150111133000.29171b50@archlinux> On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 13:12:53 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 06:49:33 -0500, Clay Weber wrote: > > > sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME > > > That should avoid wrong substitutions. :) > > Yes, you are correct, but often it is clearer to users the long > > way ;) > > I didn't follow this thread, what do you want to archive by 'sudo > chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME'? > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $USER > rocketmouse > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ sudo -i > [root at archlinux ~]# echo $USER > root > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ su > [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# echo $USER > rocketmouse > > To e.g. check if something is started with or without root privileges > $USER is useless, then there's the need to check the id: > > if [ "$(id -u)" = "0" ]; then printf "\nDon't run this script as > root :).\n\n"; exit 1; fi > > However, usage of $HOME is risky too: > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $HOME > /home/rocketmouse > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ sudo -i > [root at archlinux ~]# echo $HOME > /root > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ su > [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# echo $HOME > /root > > I don't want to reboot and check how my *buntu installs behave, but > they likely behave in the same way ;). PS: IOW it depends from where you run it: $ sudo echo $USER ; sudo echo $HOME rocketmouse /home/rocketmouse $ su # sudo echo $USER ; sudo echo $HOME rocketmouse /root $ sudo -i # sudo echo $USER ; sudo echo $HOME root /root From kassube at gmx.net Sun Jan 11 18:34:31 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:34:31 +0100 Subject: Cannot change printer settings without root access In-Reply-To: <20150111133000.29171b50@archlinux> References: <20150111131253.2bd903ed@archlinux> <20150111133000.29171b50@archlinux> Message-ID: <4121790.avVDNxXDOY@p5915> Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 13:12:53 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I didn't follow this thread, what do you want to archive by 'sudo > > chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME'? Change the ownership of all files in the user's directory to be owned by the user again. This may become necessary after using sudo with a graphical application (instead of kdesudo / gksudo). > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ echo $USER > > rocketmouse > > > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ sudo -i > > [root at archlinux ~]# echo $USER > > root > > > > [rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ su > > [root at archlinux rocketmouse]# echo $USER > > rocketmouse > > > > To e.g. check if something is started with or without root > > privileges > > $USER is useless, then there's the need to check the id: The trick of the command is that the user wants to change file ownership back to the user. The command above is for copy and paste use. It doesn't matter if you run the command as root or ordinary user - but it is meant to be run as ardinary user. Remember, the shell substitutes the variables before it starts sudo, so that makes the command (for me): sudo chown -R nils:nils /home/nils and for you it would be sudo chown -R rocketmouse:rocketmouse /home/rocketmouse Usually I wouldn't expect that someone uses "sudo -i" prior to that command because then it would be pointless to run the command with sudo. However if you would run the command as root, it wouldn't increase the damage because the command would be sudo chown -R root:root /root after the variable substitution. So it wouldn't change the home folder of the user but that of root. That may not be the wanted result, but as I wrote before, you don't run sudo commands as root anyway. Nils From nyuwa at hb.tp1.jp Mon Jan 12 10:18:32 2015 From: nyuwa at hb.tp1.jp (Thomas Blasejewicz) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 19:18:32 +0900 Subject: copy files to external HDD Message-ID: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> Good evening I am trying to copy some of the folders in my "home directory" to an external HDD. Though not with those incomprehensible terminal commands ... I select the folders I want to back up (copy), choose the destination and then select "paste". However, only a very small portion of the folders / files are actually copied. And I get 10 million times the question, whether I want to overwrite or skip exisiting files IN SPITE OF marking the little checkbox "apply to all". Can somebody please explain, why copying a few files has to be such an ordeal? And is there a way to convince the computer to do as told? That would be really helpful. Thank you. Thomas From o.sinclair at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 10:45:33 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:45:33 +0200 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: <54B3A5CD.3070800@gmail.com> On 12/01/2015 12:18, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > Good evening > I am trying to copy some of the folders in my "home directory" to an > external HDD. > Though not with those incomprehensible terminal commands ... > > I select the folders I want to back up (copy), choose the destination > and then select "paste". > However, only a very small portion of the folders / files are actually > copied. > And I get 10 million times the question, whether I want to overwrite or > skip exisiting files > IN SPITE OF marking the little checkbox "apply to all". > > Can somebody please explain, why copying a few files has to be such an > ordeal? > And is there a way to convince the computer to do as told? > That would be really helpful. > I dont know what is causing your problem as I myself regularly do this - but if you want a good backup then install Luckybackup Kind regards, Sinclair From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Mon Jan 12 11:18:45 2015 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (A.J. Bonnema) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:18:45 +0100 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> On 12-01-15 11:18, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > Good evening > I am trying to copy some of the folders in my "home directory" to an > external HDD. This should not be too difficult, provided you know where the hdd is mounted. > Though not with those incomprehensible terminal commands ... Uhmmmm. They *are* comprehensible, you just need an open mind toward them. It may help to have someone in your environment who is experienced in this area. Otherwise, youtube often helps. The command you need is cp, but beware: it overwrites without warning. Also, for recursive dive into directories you need a parameter (probably -i). Check "man cp" before you do anything, and do a trial run on a dummy target directory before you do the "real thing". If you want to use command line that is. Otherwise, start looking at either MC (Midnight Commander) or Krusader. I have always used MC but that is personal. Krusader is more GUI like so may suit you better. They are unline Nautilus or Dolphin, but work with two panels by default. For both software packages TAB switches panels, F5 copies, F6 moves etc. All like the old Norton Commander (an old windows program that probably doesn't exist anymore). For Krusader use the manual to find how to select files. For MC just use the + or the - to select or deselect files. You can also select files individually. Copying a directory is probably the most efficient way. This may help overcome your fear of the commandline. The other option is to study the man pages, buy a book on linux or check out youtube. > > I select the folders I want to back up (copy), choose the destination > and then select "paste". > However, only a very small portion of the folders / files are actually > copied. > And I get 10 million times the question, whether I want to overwrite or > skip exisiting files > IN SPITE OF marking the little checkbox "apply to all". This should not happen, in any file manager. It sounds like a bug to me. However, you are not providing a lot of information. Without knowing what OS, what window manager, what file manager you are using, no one will be able to help you. Kind regards, Guus. From gbonnema at xs4all.nl Mon Jan 12 11:27:32 2015 From: gbonnema at xs4all.nl (A.J. Bonnema) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:27:32 +0100 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <54B3AFA4.8000209@xs4all.nl> On 12-01-15 12:18, A.J. Bonnema wrote: > Uhmmmm. They *are* comprehensible, you just need an open mind toward > them. It may help to have someone in your environment who is > experienced in this area. Otherwise, youtube often helps. The command > you need is cp, but beware: it overwrites without warning. Also, for > recursive dive into directories you need a parameter (probably -i). > Check "man cp" before you do anything, and do a trial run on a dummy > target directory before you do the "real thing". Sorry, mistyped: it's "cp -r " in stead of "-i". I should have checked the man-pages first. From bilwalsh at swbell.net Mon Jan 12 13:26:14 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:26:14 -0600 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: <54B3CB76.6000902@swbell.net> On 01/12/2015 04:18 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > Good evening > I am trying to copy some of the folders in my "home directory" to an > external HDD. > Though not with those incomprehensible terminal commands ... > > I select the folders I want to back up (copy), choose the destination > and then select "paste". > However, only a very small portion of the folders / files are actually > copied. > And I get 10 million times the question, whether I want to overwrite or > skip exisiting files > IN SPITE OF marking the little checkbox "apply to all". > > Can somebody please explain, why copying a few files has to be such an > ordeal? > And is there a way to convince the computer to do as told? > That would be really helpful. > > Thank you. > Thomas > Are you using Dolphin as your file manager? If you are there is an icon to split the screen. Split the screen. Have your home folder on one side and the external drive you want use on the other. Highlight the folders/files you want to move and drag to the other side. Select either "Move" or "Copy" in the pop up box. If your moving a large number of files, not folders, do it in small stages. Bug, or whatever, there seems to be a limit on how much you can move at one time. Folders get created first then the files start to move. When some arbitrary limit is reached the file moving stops. Usually best to just do one or two folders at a time depending on how many files are in each. In the skip/overwrite box there is an option to do all or singly. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From mrmazda at earthlink.net Mon Jan 12 15:28:03 2015 From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:28:03 -0500 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <54B3E803.2060508@earthlink.net> A.J. Bonnema composed on 2015-01-12 12:18 (UTC+0100): > like the old Norton Commander (an old windows program that probably > doesn't exist anymore). Norton Commander was born of DOS in 1986. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ From bm_witness at yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 15:30:03 2015 From: bm_witness at yahoo.com (BRM) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: nVidia/AMD - Proprietary/Open-Source Drivers? In-Reply-To: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> References: <54AD1DD2.2060101@GMail.com> Message-ID: <350748771.981994.1421076603768.JavaMail.yahoo@jws106129.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:52 AM, Jesse Palser wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Kubuntu 14.04 L.T.S. 64Bit onto two different desktops. > I am confused about proprietary and open-source display drivers. > > On my Intel/nVidia desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am prompted to > install > nVidia proprietary display driver which I do and all is well. > > On my AMD/AMD desktop, after the O.S. is installed I am NOT prompted to > install > AMD proprietary display driver? > > So everything is good on the Intel/nVidia desktop, but not on AMD/AMD > desktop. > Are the AMD proprietary display drivers bad? > Are the open-source AMD drivers OK? > (can I play 3D Windows games under WINE?) > Well, there is a big difference between the nVidia Proprietary (nvidia*) and Open Source (nouveau) drivers, and the AMD Catalyst and Open Source (radeon) drivers. To start, AMD has been publishing the specs so that the devs don't need to do (so much) reverse engineerings which has lead the AMD Open Source (radeon) driver to be very high quality and work really well with the chip sets. The AMD chipsets therefore are also better supported over the long term as a result. OTOH, nVidia isn't doing that yet, so the Open Source (nouveau) driver is nearly all what the devs have figured out through reverse engineering; where as the proprietary driver is an OS-independent binary-blob with OS-specific wrappers for integrating into Linux/Windows. If your nVidia chip set is still supported by nVidia, then chances are that the nVidia proprietary driver will work better; it will certainly use more functionality of your card but you may end up with more crashes as it won't be as natively integrated to the Linux Kernel and eco-system (nVidia replaces several parts of the graphics stack as part of their integration last I knew) as the Open Source  Driver. The nouveau open source driver is pretty good, but doesn't support every feature of every card since it's primarily reverse engineering so they may not know how to take advantage of stuff; or it may be that that functionality is not fully stable yet; the advantage is that you'll have better integration with the Linux Kernel and eco-system. $0.02 Ben -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nyuwa at hb.tp1.jp Mon Jan 12 15:32:17 2015 From: nyuwa at hb.tp1.jp (Thomas Blasejewicz) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:32:17 +0900 Subject: help with setup Message-ID: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> Good evening I would like to ask for help setting this thing (kubuntu) up. I have been trying to get friendly with "linux" for YEARS and was forced to reinstall all sort of distros a million times already, but never get through it without any problems. And when I actually managed to set the OS up somehow, installing some piece of software has sent it MANY times over the edge in a fashion, that at least I was not capable of recovering ... requiring reinstallation again and again ... Right now, I freshly installed kubuntu 14.04 (deleting everything else that was on the disk), after an installation of xubuntu ("tuxtrans" to be precise), went wacko and I could not recover it. The new installation, has already choosen to freeze several times, so that I had to cut the power and restart. Right now too, there is a mouse pointer on the screen; I can move it; BUT it does not do anything: does not move windows, does not activate any buttons, does not close any windows .... nothing. That cannot be normal. Apart from this repeated freezing, I already noted several problems, even before I had any chance to mess things up. a) on another computer running the exact same OS, the settings for "input devices" by default allow setting for the touchpad; NOT on this computer, those items are greyed out. b) I NEED English, Japanese + German on the computer; on other computers I was (after much trouble) able to set up Japanese input; on THIS computer I cannot setup the "input method" - not even after I installed the relevant software (which should be there by default) And I am afraid, a lot more trouble is to come; it ALWAYS does. So, if anybody has any ideas as to how to make things work .. at least a little ... that would be great. PS: I am neither a computer freak, nor do I have a major in computer science. Therefore I would much appreciate plain language. Otherwise I may not be able to follow you. Thank you. Thomas From myriam at kubuntu.org Mon Jan 12 17:13:02 2015 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:13:02 +0100 Subject: help with setup In-Reply-To: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: Hi Thomas, On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > ... > Apart from this repeated freezing, I already noted several problems, even > before I had any chance to mess things up. > a) on another computer running the exact same OS, the settings for "input > devices" by default allow setting for the touchpad; > NOT on this computer, those items are greyed out. > b) I NEED English, Japanese + German on the computer; on other computers I > was (after much trouble) able to set up Japanese input; > on THIS computer I cannot setup the "input method" - not even after I > installed the relevant software (which should be there by default) > > And I am afraid, a lot more trouble is to come; it ALWAYS does. > So, if anybody has any ideas as to how to make things work .. at least a > little ... that would be great. > How about actually giving some input about the hardware? Maybe the computer you want to install Kubuntu on has some non-supported hardware, which might be the case for some very old SiS graphic cards for example ... comparing 2 computers with different hardware can't be done 1:1 anyway. Also: how did you install and do you have verified sources? e.g. did you check the md5sum against the downloaded ISO? We can do this step by step, but you will need to first provide more information. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From accessys at smart.net Mon Jan 12 16:31:47 2015 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 11:31:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: help with setup In-Reply-To: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: PS I run the same language sets (English/German/Japanese) and as long as they packages for the languages are installed in both the OS and whatever program you are using in that language they seem to work fine. although the spell check gets a little confused if languages are "merged" onto one document. Bob On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:32:17 +0900 > From: Thomas Blasejewicz > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: help with setup > > Good evening > I would like to ask for help setting this thing (kubuntu) up. > I have been trying to get friendly with "linux" for YEARS and was forced to > reinstall all sort of distros > a million times already, but never get through it without any problems. > And when I actually managed to set the OS up somehow, installing some piece > of software has sent it MANY times > over the edge in a fashion, that at least I was not capable of recovering ... > requiring reinstallation again and again ... > > Right now, I freshly installed kubuntu 14.04 (deleting everything else that > was on the disk), after an installation of xubuntu ("tuxtrans" to be > precise), > went wacko and I could not recover it. > > The new installation, has already choosen to freeze several times, so that I > had to cut the power and restart. > Right now too, there is a mouse pointer on the screen; I can move it; > BUT it does not do anything: does not move windows, does not activate any > buttons, does not close any windows .... nothing. > That cannot be normal. > > > Apart from this repeated freezing, I already noted several problems, even > before I had any chance to mess things up. > a) on another computer running the exact same OS, the settings for "input > devices" by default allow setting for the touchpad; > NOT on this computer, those items are greyed out. > b) I NEED English, Japanese + German on the computer; on other computers I > was (after much trouble) able to set up Japanese input; > on THIS computer I cannot setup the "input method" - not even after I > installed the relevant software (which should be there by default) > > And I am afraid, a lot more trouble is to come; it ALWAYS does. > So, if anybody has any ideas as to how to make things work .. at least a > little ... that would be great. > > PS: > I am neither a computer freak, nor do I have a major in computer science. > Therefore I would much appreciate plain language. Otherwise I may not be able > to follow you. > Thank you. > Thomas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From accessys at smart.net Mon Jan 12 16:28:38 2015 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 11:28:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: help with setup In-Reply-To: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: I usually when installing a fresh version of Kubuntu use a fresh new hard drive and relagate the old hard drive to "Slave" status. currently have three HDD's installed without problems. this allows for no conflicts with anything laying around on that old HDD. considering how low the costs of HDDs are these days it seems to be the way to go, as long as there is physical space in your box and power for it. Bob On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:32:17 +0900 > From: Thomas Blasejewicz > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: help with setup > > Good evening > I would like to ask for help setting this thing (kubuntu) up. > I have been trying to get friendly with "linux" for YEARS and was forced to > reinstall all sort of distros > a million times already, but never get through it without any problems. > And when I actually managed to set the OS up somehow, installing some piece > of software has sent it MANY times > over the edge in a fashion, that at least I was not capable of recovering ... > requiring reinstallation again and again ... > > Right now, I freshly installed kubuntu 14.04 (deleting everything else that > was on the disk), after an installation of xubuntu ("tuxtrans" to be > precise), > went wacko and I could not recover it. > > The new installation, has already choosen to freeze several times, so that I > had to cut the power and restart. > Right now too, there is a mouse pointer on the screen; I can move it; > BUT it does not do anything: does not move windows, does not activate any > buttons, does not close any windows .... nothing. > That cannot be normal. > > > Apart from this repeated freezing, I already noted several problems, even > before I had any chance to mess things up. > a) on another computer running the exact same OS, the settings for "input > devices" by default allow setting for the touchpad; > NOT on this computer, those items are greyed out. > b) I NEED English, Japanese + German on the computer; on other computers I > was (after much trouble) able to set up Japanese input; > on THIS computer I cannot setup the "input method" - not even after I > installed the relevant software (which should be there by default) > > And I am afraid, a lot more trouble is to come; it ALWAYS does. > So, if anybody has any ideas as to how to make things work .. at least a > little ... that would be great. > > PS: > I am neither a computer freak, nor do I have a major in computer science. > Therefore I would much appreciate plain language. Otherwise I may not be able > to follow you. > Thank you. > Thomas > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From shadowm at lyonlabs.org Mon Jan 12 18:16:02 2015 From: shadowm at lyonlabs.org (Glenn Holmer) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:16:02 -0600 Subject: vivid repo not found Message-ID: <54B40F62.6000005@lyonlabs.org> With a fresh install of Vivid alpha1, trying to run updates right after the install gives: http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source/Sources 404 not found Same thing for main/binary-amd64/Packages and main/binary-i386/Packages. Is it a bug? There was a huge number of updates, all of which installed successfully. After a reboot, the same error showed. -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." From samorris at netspace.net.au Mon Jan 12 20:09:20 2015 From: samorris at netspace.net.au (Stephen Morris) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 07:09:20 +1100 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B3AFA4.8000209@xs4all.nl> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> <54B3AFA4.8000209@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <54B429F0.6040400@netspace.net.au> On 01/12/2015 10:27 PM, A.J. Bonnema wrote: > On 12-01-15 12:18, A.J. Bonnema wrote: >> Uhmmmm. They *are* comprehensible, you just need an open mind toward >> them. It may help to have someone in your environment who is >> experienced in this area. Otherwise, youtube often helps. The command >> you need is cp, but beware: it overwrites without warning. Also, for >> recursive dive into directories you need a parameter (probably -i). >> Check "man cp" before you do anything, and do a trial run on a dummy >> target directory before you do the "real thing". > > Sorry, mistyped: it's "cp -r " in stead of "-i". I > should have checked the man-pages first. If using the command line you could use "cp -Rf " which will recursively copy directories and overwrite both directories and files if they exist on the destination. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: samorris.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 130 bytes Desc: not available URL: From clay at claydoh.com Mon Jan 12 23:48:14 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:48:14 -0500 Subject: vivid repo not found In-Reply-To: <54B40F62.6000005@lyonlabs.org> References: <54B40F62.6000005@lyonlabs.org> Message-ID: <75A5BB19-F834-4924-87AE-34312F484F42@claydoh.com> It is sort of a bug, as extras.ubuntu.com has been retired, and should not be enabled anymore. You can safely remove it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/1409555 On January 12, 2015 1:16:02 PM EST, Glenn Holmer wrote: >With a fresh install of Vivid alpha1, trying to run updates right after >the install gives: > >http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source/Sources 404 not >found > >Same thing for main/binary-amd64/Packages and >main/binary-i386/Packages. > >Is it a bug? There was a huge number of updates, all of which installed >successfully. After a reboot, the same error showed. > >-- >Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) >"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." > >-- >kubuntu-users mailing list >kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- Clay Weber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 03:52:52 2015 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:52:52 +0200 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B3E803.2060508@earthlink.net> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> <54B3E803.2060508@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <54B49694.1020903@gmail.com> On 12/01/2015 17:28, Felix Miata wrote: > A.J. Bonnema composed on 2015-01-12 12:18 (UTC+0100): > >> like the old Norton Commander (an old windows program that probably >> doesn't exist anymore). > > Norton Commander was born of DOS in 1986. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander > If you like(d) Norton Commander you can install Krusader that has much of the same layout From mrmazda at earthlink.net Tue Jan 13 04:32:47 2015 From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:32:47 -0500 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B49694.1020903@gmail.com> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> <54B3E803.2060508@earthlink.net> <54B49694.1020903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <54B49FEF.80903@earthlink.net> O. Sinclair composed on 2015-01-13 05:52 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Norton Commander was born of DOS in 1986. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander > If you like(d) Norton Commander you can install Krusader that has much > of the same layout GUIs steal some of the important keystrokes that make OFM's[1] the marvelous tools that they are. If you really like(d) Norton Commander you use Midnight Commander and File Commander/[2,L,W], as I do. Without MC it might have taken me 8 years longer to migrate from OS/2 to Linux. [1] http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/index.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OFM -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Jan 13 10:12:47 2015 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:12:47 -0500 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B49694.1020903@gmail.com> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B3E803.2060508@earthlink.net> <54B49694.1020903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201501130512.47822.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday, January 12, 2015 10:52:52 PM O. Sinclair did opine And Gene did reply: > On 12/01/2015 17:28, Felix Miata wrote: > > A.J. Bonnema composed on 2015-01-12 12:18 (UTC+0100): > >> like the old Norton Commander (an old windows program that probably > >> doesn't exist anymore). > > > > Norton Commander was born of DOS in 1986. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander > > If you like(d) Norton Commander you can install Krusader that has much > of the same layout I just last week encountered another problem while giving krusader another chance at doing its job, but it managed to crew the moose, in copying a few gigabytes of data from an old drive to a new wheezy install, it changed all the file ownerships and attributes to what it thought were correct. But they weren't, I had to go thru about 2 hours worth of running down and fixing those damages. Going back to the not near as pretty since its an ncurses interface, but much more capable mc, aka Midnight Commander, I had no such problems. Attributes and ownerships were preserved. Mc was I think, written originally to out Norton the Norton Commander. It was part of my original Red Hat 5.0 install in 1998. My $0.02, based on nearly 17 years of being a linux fan? Krusader is pleasing eye candy, but its still as broken now as it was in 2010 when I first met it. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From gheskett at wdtv.com Tue Jan 13 10:24:12 2015 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:24:12 -0500 Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B49FEF.80903@earthlink.net> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B49694.1020903@gmail.com> <54B49FEF.80903@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <201501130524.12804.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Monday, January 12, 2015 11:32:47 PM Felix Miata did opine And Gene did reply: > O. Sinclair composed on 2015-01-13 05:52 (UTC+0200): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> Norton Commander was born of DOS in 1986. > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander > > > > If you like(d) Norton Commander you can install Krusader that has > > much of the same layout > > GUIs steal some of the important keystrokes that make OFM's[1] the > marvelous tools that they are. If you really like(d) Norton Commander > you use Midnight Commander and File Commander/[2,L,W], as I do. > Without MC it might have taken me 8 years longer to migrate from OS/2 > to Linux. > > [1] > http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/index.shtml > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OFM Yep, I'd love to find out where they are stealing the F10 key to bring up the xfce terminal emulators file requester, preventing the F10 key from being the exit key for MC. So you have to close the requester that pops up, then grab the mouse and find its exit button at the bottom of its screen, and then answer an "are you sure" popup. Make a minimum of 4 mouse clicks to quit it. Sure, you can cancel that in the individual terminals prefs, but I'd like to cancel it globally because its best described as a PIMA. Thanks for reading my rant(s). Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Tue Jan 13 12:59:14 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 04:59:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: help with setup In-Reply-To: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > Good evening > I would like to ask for help setting this thing (kubuntu) up. > I have been trying to get friendly with "linux" for YEARS and was forced > to reinstall all sort of distros > a million times already, but never get through it without any problems. > And when I actually managed to set the OS up somehow, installing some > piece of software has sent it MANY times > over the edge in a fashion, that at least I was not capable of > recovering ... requiring reinstallation again and again ... > > Right now, I freshly installed kubuntu 14.04 (deleting everything else > that was on the disk), after an installation of xubuntu ("tuxtrans" to > be precise), > went wacko and I could not recover it. 14.04 Is known for being _very_ unfriendly to older machines/processors, especially if they're AMD. If that's the case here, you have only two options: One is to upgrade, and try again. The other is to install 12.04 instead, which is stable, and works well on moderately older machines. Both are LTS, (Long Term Support), versions, though 12.04 is coming down to the end of it's support time, which means no more program updates after that. Bill From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Tue Jan 13 13:39:06 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 05:39:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: copy files to external HDD In-Reply-To: <54B429F0.6040400@netspace.net.au> References: <54B39F78.1070001@hb.tp1.jp> <54B3AD95.7020309@xs4all.nl> <54B3AFA4.8000209@xs4all.nl> <54B429F0.6040400@netspace.net.au> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Stephen Morris wrote: > On 01/12/2015 10:27 PM, A.J. Bonnema wrote: >> On 12-01-15 12:18, A.J. Bonnema wrote: >>> Uhmmmm. They *are* comprehensible, you just need an open mind toward >>> them. It may help to have someone in your environment who is >>> experienced in this area. Otherwise, youtube often helps. The command >>> you need is cp, but beware: it overwrites without warning. Also, for >>> recursive dive into directories you need a parameter (probably -i). >>> Check "man cp" before you do anything, and do a trial run on a dummy >>> target directory before you do the "real thing". >> >> Sorry, mistyped: it's "cp -r " in stead of "-i". I >> should have checked the man-pages first. > If using the command line you could use "cp -Rf " which > will recursively copy directories and overwrite both directories and > files if they exist on the destination. Just to clear a few things up, here's how some of the options work: -R or -r will make recursive copies, i.e., all the subdirs and files included. --preserve=all will keep all the modes, links, and ownerships, etc., the same as in the original directories. -u or --update will copy a file only if it is newer than an existing file with the same name, or if that file doesn't exist in the target dir. These are great options for making proper backups, as well as restoring them later. That being said, there's a couple of starting usages: cp -R --preserve=all /path/dir-1 /path/newdir/dir-2 will result in: /path/newdir/dir-2/dir-1 cp -R --preserve=all /path/dir-1/* /path/newdir/dir-2 Note the, "*", which results in dir-2 having the contents of dir-1, but not creating the dir-1 directory in /path/newdir/dir-2. The, "*", character is a, "wild card", character meaning, "any or all", and can be used as part of a file/dir name when searching or listing, too. When making a backup of a dir that you've allready made backups of, add the -u or --update option, like this: cp -R --preserve=all -u /path/dir-1/* /path/newdir/dir-2 Bill From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jan 13 15:00:40 2015 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:00:40 +0000 Subject: vivid repo not found In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54B53318.7060607@blueyonder.co.uk> I hit the same problem. "sed -i 's/utopic/vivid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list" After that, "aptitude update" and "aptitude full-upgrade". root at sdrbox1:/usr/src# cat /etc/os-release NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION="15.04 (Vivid Vervet)" ID=ubuntu ID_LIKE=debian PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)" VERSION_ID="15.04" HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/" SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/" BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Jan 13 15:04:51 2015 From: sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk (Sid Boyce) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:04:51 +0000 Subject: vivid repo not found In-Reply-To: <54B53318.7060607@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <54B53318.7060607@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <54B53413.4030807@blueyonder.co.uk> On 13/01/15 15:00, Sid Boyce wrote: > I hit the same problem. > "sed -i 's/utopic/vivid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list" > > After that, "aptitude update" and "aptitude full-upgrade". > root at sdrbox1:/usr/src# cat /etc/os-release > NAME="Ubuntu" > VERSION="15.04 (Vivid Vervet)" > ID=ubuntu > ID_LIKE=debian > PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)" > VERSION_ID="15.04" > HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/" > SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/" > BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" > > Regards > Sid. > I forgot to add that I had problems getting a sane KDE desktop but after reinstalling a number of KDE apps it's OK except that the usual desktop folder window is absent. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks From clay at claydoh.com Tue Jan 13 15:15:19 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:15:19 -0500 Subject: vivid repo not found In-Reply-To: <54B53413.4030807@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <54B53318.7060607@blueyonder.co.uk> <54B53413.4030807@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <1925318.Z4lTQ7A9Es@gus-latitude-d830> On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 03:04:51 PM Sid Boyce wrote: > On 13/01/15 15:00, Sid Boyce wrote: > > I hit the same problem. > > "sed -i 's/utopic/vivid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list" > > > > After that, "aptitude update" and "aptitude full-upgrade". > > root at sdrbox1:/usr/src# cat /etc/os-release > > NAME="Ubuntu" > > VERSION="15.04 (Vivid Vervet)" > > ID=ubuntu > > ID_LIKE=debian > > PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)" > > VERSION_ID="15.04" > > HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/" > > SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/" > > BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/" > > > > Regards > > Sid. > > I forgot to add that I had problems getting a sane KDE desktop but after > reinstalling a number of KDE apps it's OK except that the usual desktop > folder window is absent. > Regards > Sid. You should perhaps upgrade from Utopic to Vivid using 'kubuntu-devel-release- upgrade' as the upgrade process is more than just swapping apt repositories out. As to the missing folder view widget, try installing the package 'plasma- desktop', I think that is what fixed some missing widgets here for me. -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From nyuwa at hb.tp1.jp Wed Jan 14 02:16:58 2015 From: nyuwa at hb.tp1.jp (Thomas) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:16:58 +0900 Subject: help with setup In-Reply-To: References: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: <54B5D19A.4010401@hb.tp1.jp> On 2015/01/13 21:59, Bill Vance wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: > >> Good evening >> I would like to ask for help setting this thing (kubuntu) up. >> I have been trying to get friendly with "linux" for YEARS and was >> forced to reinstall all sort of distros >> a million times already, but never get through it without any problems. >> And when I actually managed to set the OS up somehow, installing some >> piece of software has sent it MANY times >> over the edge in a fashion, that at least I was not capable of >> recovering ... requiring reinstallation again and again ... >> >> Right now, I freshly installed kubuntu 14.04 (deleting everything >> else that was on the disk), after an installation of xubuntu >> ("tuxtrans" to be precise), >> went wacko and I could not recover it. > > 14.04 Is known for being _very_ unfriendly to older machines/processors, > especially if they're AMD. If that's the case here, you have only > two options: One is to upgrade, and try again. The other is to install > 12.04 instead, which is stable, and works well on moderately older > machines. Both are LTS, (Long Term Support), versions, though 12.04 is > coming down to the end of it's support time, which means no more program > updates after that. > > Bill > Thank you. The machine is at home and I am at work, so I cannot really tell you the details, but: Mouse notebook computer, 500 GB HDD, 4 GB RAM, 4-core Intel chip with 3.xxx GB clock speed ... Is that considered to be "old" (old as in "useless")? I DID install kubuntu 14.04 from the SAME CD on a Dell Inspiron 1545 with slightly less fancy specs and there it works ... I would say almost "fine". Including all the settings for the touch pad, the Japanese input system (Anthy), which I downloaded via Muon Package Manager. On this Mouse computer the Muon Package Manager tells me, however, there IS NO Anthy in the sofware repositories. That cannot be a hardware problem, can it? From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Wed Jan 14 11:43:44 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:43:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: help with setup In-Reply-To: <54B5D19A.4010401@hb.tp1.jp> References: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> <54B5D19A.4010401@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 2015, Thomas wrote: > On 2015/01/13 21:59, Bill Vance wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: >> >>> Good evening >>> I would like to ask for help setting this thing (kubuntu) up. >>> I have been trying to get friendly with "linux" for YEARS and was >>> forced to reinstall all sort of distros >>> a million times already, but never get through it without any >>> problems. >>> And when I actually managed to set the OS up somehow, installing some >>> piece of software has sent it MANY times >>> over the edge in a fashion, that at least I was not capable of >>> recovering ... requiring reinstallation again and again ... >>> >>> Right now, I freshly installed kubuntu 14.04 (deleting everything >>> else that was on the disk), after an installation of xubuntu >>> ("tuxtrans" to be precise), >>> went wacko and I could not recover it. >> >> 14.04 Is known for being _very_ unfriendly to older >> machines/processors, >> especially if they're AMD. If that's the case here, you have only >> two options: One is to upgrade, and try again. The other is to >> install >> 12.04 instead, which is stable, and works well on moderately older >> machines. Both are LTS, (Long Term Support), versions, though 12.04 >> is >> coming down to the end of it's support time, which means no more >> program >> updates after that. >> >> Bill >> > Thank you. > The machine is at home and I am at work, so I cannot really tell you the > details, but: > Mouse notebook computer, 500 GB HDD, 4 GB RAM, 4-core Intel chip with > 3.xxx GB clock speed ... > Is that considered to be "old" (old as in "useless")? I wouldn't think so, though I have no experience with one of these. More below. > I DID install kubuntu 14.04 from the SAME CD on a Dell Inspiron 1545 > with slightly less fancy specs > and there it works ... I would say almost "fine". > Including all the settings for the touch pad, the Japanese input system > (Anthy), which I downloaded via Muon Package Manager. > On this Mouse computer the Muon Package Manager tells me, however, there > IS NO Anthy in the sofware repositories. > That cannot be a hardware problem, can it? I don't have a use for it, and so don't know. Try to see if it has a web page. If you're using google, try the following in your browsers search window: kubuntu+14.04+Anthy+.deb The plus signs tell google to bring up _only_ those pages that have _all_ of the search words. Other pages with just some of the search words can show up, but only after the others appear. Bill From bilwalsh at swbell.net Wed Jan 14 13:54:02 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 07:54:02 -0600 Subject: help with setup In-Reply-To: References: <54B3E901.4070100@hb.tp1.jp> <54B5D19A.4010401@hb.tp1.jp> Message-ID: <54B674FA.4070801@swbell.net> On 01/14/2015 05:43 AM, Bill Vance wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Jan 2015, Thomas wrote: > >> On 2015/01/13 21:59, Bill Vance wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2015, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: >>> >>>> Good evening >>>> I would like to ask for help setting this thing (kubuntu) up. >>>> I have been trying to get friendly with "linux" for YEARS and was >>>> forced to reinstall all sort of distros >>>> a million times already, but never get through it without any >>>> problems. >>>> And when I actually managed to set the OS up somehow, installing >>>> some piece of software has sent it MANY times >>>> over the edge in a fashion, that at least I was not capable of >>>> recovering ... requiring reinstallation again and again ... >>>> >>>> Right now, I freshly installed kubuntu 14.04 (deleting everything >>>> else that was on the disk), after an installation of xubuntu >>>> ("tuxtrans" to be precise), >>>> went wacko and I could not recover it. >>> >>> 14.04 Is known for being _very_ unfriendly to older >>> machines/processors, >>> especially if they're AMD. If that's the case here, you have only >>> two options: One is to upgrade, and try again. The other is to >>> install >>> 12.04 instead, which is stable, and works well on moderately older >>> machines. Both are LTS, (Long Term Support), versions, though 12.04 is >>> coming down to the end of it's support time, which means no more >>> program >>> updates after that. >>> >>> Bill >>> >> Thank you. >> The machine is at home and I am at work, so I cannot really tell you >> the details, but: >> Mouse notebook computer, 500 GB HDD, 4 GB RAM, 4-core Intel chip with >> 3.xxx GB clock speed ... >> Is that considered to be "old" (old as in "useless")? > > > I wouldn't think so, though I have no experience with one of these. > More below. > > >> I DID install kubuntu 14.04 from the SAME CD on a Dell Inspiron 1545 >> with slightly less fancy specs >> and there it works ... I would say almost "fine". >> Including all the settings for the touch pad, the Japanese input >> system (Anthy), which I downloaded via Muon Package Manager. >> On this Mouse computer the Muon Package Manager tells me, however, >> there IS NO Anthy in the sofware repositories. >> That cannot be a hardware problem, can it? > > > I don't have a use for it, and so don't know. Try to see if it has a > web page. If you're using google, try the following in your browsers > search window: > > kubuntu+14.04+Anthy+.deb > > The plus signs tell google to bring up _only_ those pages that have > _all_ of the search words. Other pages with just some of the search > words can show up, but only after the others appear. > > Bill > The muon package manager sucks. It doesn't show everything that is available. The first thing I ALWAYS do on a clean install is install Synaptic package manager. You have to do it in a terminal because Muon can't find it either. I can't guarantee that what you want is in the repositories but if it is Synaptic will find it. sudo apt-get install synaptic -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 17 13:20:29 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:20:29 +0000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV Message-ID: I hope somebody can help me with this problem. I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI & 1 HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) via the HDMI. I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard part is SOUND. How do I get sound to the TV. I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the speakers to but that does not work. Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT there is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the TV via the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using the output which is normally used for the speakers. I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is ONLY SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay to convert SPDIF digital to analog but want to be sure that it will work connecting to the audio in next to the HDMI input on the TV. Thanks Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The > hard part is SOUND. > > How do I get sound to the TV. > I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the > speakers to but that does not work. > Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT > there is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? > > With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the TV > via the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using the > output which is normally used for the speakers. > > I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is > ONLY SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay > > to convert SPDIF digital to analog but want to be sure that it will > work connecting to the audio in next to the HDMI input on the TV. > > Thanks > Pete The HDMI standard includes audio. The issue becomes does your computer comply with that part of the standard or is there possibly a setting somewhere that turns it on. I would assume that if the computer has the HDMI output it most likely supports audio so I would look for a setting somewhere. But, one should never assume anything. -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 15:24:58 2015 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 22:24:58 +0700 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 8:20 PM, peter maddison wrote: > What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) via > the HDMI. > I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard > part is SOUND. > > How do I get sound to the TV. Could you post the menu of the audio setting options on your TV? Please check the audio setting on your TV, make sure it is set to digital, not analogue. DK From henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 17:18:06 2015 From: henry.linux.1973 at gmail.com (Henry Linux) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 14:18:06 -0300 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2015-01-17 10:20 GMT-03:00 peter maddison : > I hope somebody can help me with this problem. > > I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI & 1 > HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. > What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) via > the HDMI. > I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard > part is SOUND. > > How do I get sound to the TV. > I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the speakers > to but that does not work. > Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT there > is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? > > With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the TV via > the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using the output which > is normally used for the speakers. > > I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is ONLY > SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay to convert SPDIF digital to > analog but want to be sure that it will work connecting to the audio in next > to the HDMI input on the TV. > > Thanks > Pete > Hi, have you try install PAVUCONTROL to setup de sound outputs? Henry. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From clay at claydoh.com Sat Jan 17 18:03:57 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:03:57 -0500 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5209206.T2nWdfCWI2@gus-latitude-d830> On Saturday, January 17, 2015 01:20:29 PM peter maddison wrote: > I hope somebody can help me with this problem. > > I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI & > 1 HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. > What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) > via the HDMI. > I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard > part is SOUND. > > How do I get sound to the TV. > I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the > speakers to but that does not work. > Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT > there is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? > > With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the TV > via the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using the > output which is normally used for the speakers. > > I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is > ONLY SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay > udio-Converter-with-3-5mm-Jack-/301489588581?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=i > tem46322e0965> to convert SPDIF digital to analog but want to be sure that > it will work connecting to the audio in next to the HDMI input on the TV. > > Thanks > Pete With HDMI, it may be tricky depending on the video card and the driver used. Most all will support audio output using the hdmi, but a few may require the non-free proprietary drivers (nvidia and amd). With the cable plugged in, check out System Settings >> Multimedia, and check that the hdmi output is visible, and is moved to the top of the list in the appropriate sections. Another thing to try to test (assuming that hdmi audio is available and present) is, when playing a video or audio piece, is to click on your kmix icon in the system tray. You can right-click on the output stream for the audio/video, and select "move" to send it to a different output device, to see if it plays where you want it to. -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sat Jan 17 19:29:03 2015 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 14:29:03 -0500 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54BAB7FF.6010309@optonline.net> On 01/17/2015 08:20 AM, peter maddison wrote: > I hope somebody can help me with this problem. > > I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI & 1 HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. > What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) via the HDMI. > I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard part is SOUND. > > How do I get sound to the TV. > I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the speakers to but that does not work. > Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT there is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? > > With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the TV via the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using the output which is normally used for the speakers. > > I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is ONLY SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay to convert SPDIF digital to analog but want to be sure that it will work connecting to the audio in next to the HDMI input on the TV. > > Thanks > Pete > > > > Do you have PulseAudio on that system? That's the only thing I know of that will let you have two sound outputs at once. You have to go to the various PA entries on the menu and set them for simultaneous, or the equivalent, and it took some fooling around for me to get it to work, but it does. For me, my TV is another room from the computer, so it's nice to be able to get everything set on the computer and then go look at the movie or whatever on the TV. My local sound comes from the mobo, and my HDMI sound comes with the video to the TV from a GeForce (NVidia) video card, which also supplies the local monitor, a 24" ViewSonic. If you have a problem, I will go thru each PA GUI and tell you how it's set. --doug From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 17 19:42:58 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:42:58 +0000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sound menu Sound > Sound Mode > Standard/Music/Movie/Clear Voice/Amplify > Sound Effect > SRS TruSurround HD/SRS TruDialog/Equaliser > Broadcast Audio Options > Audio Language/Audio Format/Audio Description > Additional Settings > DTV Audio Level > MPEG/HE-AAC > SPDI Output > Audio Format/Audio Delay > Dolby Digital Comp > > Speaker Settings > Speaker Select > External Speaker/TV Speaker > Auto Volume > Off/Normal/Night > Reset Sound Here's a dropbox link to the manual to the TV On 17/01/15 15:24, David Kuntadi wrote: > On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 8:20 PM, peter maddison > wrote: >> What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) via >> the HDMI. >> I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard >> part is SOUND. >> >> How do I get sound to the TV. > Could you post the menu of the audio setting options on your TV? > Please check the audio setting on your TV, make sure it is set to > digital, not analogue. > > DK > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 17 19:45:48 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:45:48 +0000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> Message-ID: I remember having problems with my other MoBo and lack of sound. As I mentioned in my first post, I had to get audio to the TV via the standard speaker jack while using the DVI output with a DVI to HDMI converter so I could connect to the HDMI in the back of the TV. On 17/01/15 15:02, Billie Walsh wrote: > On 01/17/2015 07:20 AM, peter maddison wrote: >> I hope somebody can help me with this problem. >> >> I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI >> & 1 HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. >> What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 >> (PS51E450A1W) via the HDMI. >> I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The >> hard part is SOUND. >> >> How do I get sound to the TV. >> I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the >> speakers to but that does not work. >> Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT >> there is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? >> >> With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the >> TV via the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using >> the output which is normally used for the speakers. >> >> I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is >> ONLY SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay >> >> to convert SPDIF digital to analog but want to be sure that it will >> work connecting to the audio in next to the HDMI input on the TV. >> >> Thanks >> Pete > > The HDMI standard includes audio. > > The issue becomes does your computer comply with that part of the > standard or is there possibly a setting somewhere that turns it on. I > would assume that if the computer has the HDMI output it most likely > supports audio so I would look for a setting somewhere. But, one > should never assume anything. > > > -- > “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 17 19:47:21 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:47:21 +0000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 'PAVUCONTROL' Sorry, never heard of it, I will investigate tho... On 17/01/15 17:18, Henry Linux wrote: > 2015-01-17 10:20 GMT-03:00 peter maddison : >> I hope somebody can help me with this problem. >> >> I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI & 1 >> HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. >> What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) via >> the HDMI. >> I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard >> part is SOUND. >> >> How do I get sound to the TV. >> I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the speakers >> to but that does not work. >> Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT there >> is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? >> >> With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the TV via >> the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using the output which >> is normally used for the speakers. >> >> I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is ONLY >> SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay to convert SPDIF digital to >> analog but want to be sure that it will work connecting to the audio in next >> to the HDMI input on the TV. >> >> Thanks >> Pete >> > Hi, have you try install PAVUCONTROL to setup de sound outputs? > > Henry. > > >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 17 20:13:47 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 20:13:47 +0000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV [SOLVED] In-Reply-To: <5209206.T2nWdfCWI2@gus-latitude-d830> References: <5209206.T2nWdfCWI2@gus-latitude-d830> Message-ID: HERE is a screenshot of System Settings > Multimedia (I hope this what you're referring to) Got it working!!! I don't know how though. I messed around with the settings making it go through the built-in Audio and then back to the setting as shown in the screenshot then used the speaker jack and connected it to the analogue audio in and.... It worked! Thanks for that Clay. On 17/01/15 18:03, Clay Weber wrote: > On Saturday, January 17, 2015 01:20:29 PM peter maddison wrote: >> I hope somebody can help me with this problem. >> >> I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI & >> 1 HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. >> What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) >> via the HDMI. >> I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard >> part is SOUND. >> >> How do I get sound to the TV. >> I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the >> speakers to but that does not work. >> Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT >> there is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? >> >> With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the TV >> via the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using the >> output which is normally used for the speakers. >> >> I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is >> ONLY SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay >> > udio-Converter-with-3-5mm-Jack-/301489588581?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=i >> tem46322e0965> to convert SPDIF digital to analog but want to be sure that >> it will work connecting to the audio in next to the HDMI input on the TV. >> >> Thanks >> Pete > With HDMI, it may be tricky depending on the video card and the driver used. > Most all will support audio output using the hdmi, but a few may require the > non-free proprietary drivers (nvidia and amd). With the cable plugged in, > check out System Settings >> Multimedia, and check that the hdmi output is > visible, and is moved to the top of the list in the appropriate sections. > > Another thing to try to test (assuming that hdmi audio is available and > present) is, when playing a video or audio piece, is to click on your kmix > icon in the system tray. You can right-click on the output stream for the > audio/video, and select "move" to send it to a different output device, to see > if it plays where you want it to. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilwalsh at swbell.net Sat Jan 17 23:01:09 2015 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 17:01:09 -0600 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> Message-ID: <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> My better half says that the video card most likely doesn't support audio out on HDMI or DVI. Only implements part of the HDMI standard. She also said that any audio settings have to be set to PGM if it does support it. And I have no idea what that is. On 01/17/2015 01:45 PM, peter maddison wrote: > I remember having problems with my other MoBo and lack of sound. > As I mentioned in my first post, I had to get audio to the TV via the > standard speaker jack while using the DVI output with a DVI to HDMI > converter so I could connect to the HDMI in the back of the TV. > > On 17/01/15 15:02, Billie Walsh wrote: >> On 01/17/2015 07:20 AM, peter maddison wrote: >>> I hope somebody can help me with this problem. >>> >>> I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 >>> DVI & 1 HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. >>> What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 >>> (PS51E450A1W) via the HDMI. >>> I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The >>> hard part is SOUND. >>> >>> How do I get sound to the TV. >>> I have tried using the standard audio output which you connect the >>> speakers to but that does not work. >>> Yes, there is a SPDIF output next to the HDMI output on the MoBo BUT >>> there is NO SPDIF INPUT on the TV, so HOW do I get sound to the TV??? >>> >>> With my previous MoBo, ASUS M3A76CM, I did have it connected to the >>> TV via the DVI to HDMI. How I got the sound to the TV was by using >>> the output which is normally used for the speakers. >>> >>> I did buy a SPDIF cable before I checked the TV to see that there is >>> ONLY SPDIF OUTPUT. I have seen something on eBay >>> >>> to convert SPDIF digital to analog but want to be sure that it will >>> work connecting to the audio in next to the HDMI input on the TV. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Pete >> >> The HDMI standard includes audio. >> >> The issue becomes does your computer comply with that part of the >> standard or is there possibly a setting somewhere that turns it on. I >> would assume that if the computer has the HDMI output it most likely >> supports audio so I would look for a setting somewhere. But, one >> should never assume anything. >> >> >> -- >> “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> > > > -- “Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.” - Joan Rivers _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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DK From phil_lor at bigpond.com Sat Jan 17 23:48:39 2015 From: phil_lor at bigpond.com (Phil) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 09:48:39 +1000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54BAF4D7.5030505@bigpond.com> On 17/01/15 23:20, peter maddison wrote: > I hope somebody can help me with this problem. > > I have an ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 which has 3 video outputs; 1 VGA , 1 DVI & > 1 HDMI. My monitor is connected via the VGA. > What I am trying to do is connect my 51" Samsung Series 4 (PS51E450A1W) > via the HDMI. > I have done that by using a HDMI cable, that was the easy part. The hard > part is SOUND. > For what it's worth, my Asus laptop doesn't support HDMI correctly - video but no sound. VGA output plus a connection to the audio output of the laptop works. I also have an MSI laptop that fully supports the HDMI standard - just plug and play. Both laptops have Kubuntu 14.10 installed. -- Regards, Phil From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun Jan 18 00:33:37 2015 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:33:37 -0500 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> Message-ID: <54BAFF61.7060300@optonline.net> On 01/17/2015 06:01 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > My better half says that the video card most likely doesn't support audio out on HDMI or DVI. Only implements part of the HDMI standard. She also said that any audio settings have to be set to PGM if it does support it. And I have no idea what that is. > /snip/ Please tell us the name and model number of your video card. Or look up the specs yourself and let us know what you find. --doug From mrmazda at earthlink.net Sun Jan 18 02:55:44 2015 From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 21:55:44 -0500 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BAFF61.7060300@optonline.net> References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> <54BAFF61.7060300@optonline.net> Message-ID: <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> Doug composed on 2015-01-17 19:33 (UTC-0500): > Please tell us the name and model number of your video card. Or look up the specs yourself and let us know what you find. Peter's OP told us M5A78L-M/USB3 which via Google leads to http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/ which says he has on the motherboard video Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 3000 GPU unless he's installed an accessory card, and in audio description high-quality 192KHz/24-bit audio output and jack-detect Maybe jack-detect interferes with getting audio onto the HDMI output if not running Windows? As HD 3000 is a generic type, he should post audio device output from lspci and/or hwinfo --sound if he'd like better than his current solution. Being of the onboard type, it would not surprise me if his already found solution turns out to be the only possible one. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ From dmcgarrett at optonline.net Sun Jan 18 04:23:17 2015 From: dmcgarrett at optonline.net (Doug) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:23:17 -0500 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> <54BAFF61.7060300@optonline.net> <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <54BB3535.3040504@optonline.net> On 01/17/2015 09:55 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Doug composed on 2015-01-17 19:33 (UTC-0500): > >> Please tell us the name and model number of your video card. Or look up the specs yourself and let us know what you find. > > Peter's OP told us > > M5A78L-M/USB3 > > which via Google leads to > > http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/ > > which says he has on the motherboard video > > Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 3000 GPU > > unless he's installed an accessory card, and in audio description > > high-quality 192KHz/24-bit audio output and jack-detect > > > Maybe jack-detect interferes with getting audio onto the HDMI output if not > running Windows? As HD 3000 is a generic type, he should post audio device > output from lspci and/or hwinfo --sound if he'd like better than his current > solution. Being of the onboard type, it would not surprise me if his already > found solution turns out to be the only possible one. > I'm not familiar with jack detect. Looking up the mobo and the specs, it looked like only the -700 version had HDMI, but looking at a photo of the board, there's an HDMI jack, as well as a DVI. The specs I saw did not mention the HDMI characteristics. Like another reponder, I would think that if a board has an HDMI jack, then full HDMI _ought_ to be provided. What happens if you disconnect the local video monitor and the analog sound outputs? Can you then get sound out of the TV? While the local sound and video are disconnected, run the sound test routines from the command line, and see if you ever get sound on the TV. If so, then the question is how to get sound from both sound processors? I only know of PulseAudio, as I mentioned previously. If not, then I think the HDMI output is not a true HDMI, or is faulty. I don't know if it's possible to query ASUS about the properties of the HDMI connector, but if so, then do so. If you bought and installed the mobo yourself, you should have a booklet on it, and it may give more specs than I found on Google. Good luck! BTW: When I finally got the sound working on both systems, I discovered something that I should really have known anyway: the sound out of the TV is _terrible_! I have reasonable fidelity at the computer, but sure not at the TV. I have connected an outboard amp and a pair of bookshelf speakers to the TV audio output jack! So if you're going to watch and listen to musical performances, be warned! --doug From clay at claydoh.com Sun Jan 18 04:43:08 2015 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:43:08 -0500 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BB3535.3040504@optonline.net> References: <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> <54BB3535.3040504@optonline.net> Message-ID: <21220554.stdQ8e668K@gus-latitude-d830> On Saturday, January 17, 2015 11:23:17 PM Doug wrote: > On 01/17/2015 09:55 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Doug composed on 2015-01-17 19:33 (UTC-0500): > >> Please tell us the name and model number of your video card. Or look up > >> the specs yourself and let us know what you find.> > > Peter's OP told us > > > > M5A78L-M/USB3 > > > > which via Google leads to > > > > http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/ > > > > which says he has on the motherboard video > > > > Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 3000 GPU > > > > unless he's installed an accessory card, and in audio description > > > > high-quality 192KHz/24-bit audio output and jack-detect > > > > Maybe jack-detect interferes with getting audio onto the HDMI output if > > not > > running Windows? As HD 3000 is a generic type, he should post audio device > > output from lspci and/or hwinfo --sound if he'd like better than his > > current solution. Being of the onboard type, it would not surprise me if > > his already found solution turns out to be the only possible one. > > I'm not familiar with jack detect. Looking up the mobo and the specs, it > looked like only the -700 version had HDMI, but looking at a photo of the > board, there's an HDMI jack, as well as a DVI. The specs I saw did not > mention the HDMI characteristics. Like another reponder, I would think that > if a board has an HDMI jack, then full HDMI _ought_ to be provided. > > What happens if you disconnect the local video monitor and the analog sound > outputs? Can you then get sound out of the TV? While the local sound and > video are disconnected, run the sound test routines from the command line, > and see if you ever get sound on the TV. If so, then the question is how to > get sound from both sound processors? I only know of PulseAudio, as I > mentioned previously. If not, then I think the HDMI output is not a true > HDMI, or is faulty. > > I don't know if it's possible to query ASUS about the properties of the HDMI > connector, but if so, then do so. If you bought and installed the mobo > yourself, you should have a booklet on it, and it may give more specs than > I found on Google. > > Good luck! > > BTW: When I finally got the sound working on both systems, I discovered > something that I should really have known anyway: the sound out of the TV > is _terrible_! I have reasonable fidelity at the computer, but sure not at > the TV. I have connected an outboard amp and a pair of bookshelf speakers > to the TV audio output jack! So if you're going to watch and listen to > musical performances, be warned! > > --doug It should be fairy simple to test if hdmi audio is working: In System Settings, go th the Multimedia section, and look at the Device Preferences tab. Check out the categories on the left pane, see if when selecting one (if not already selected) there is displayed in the right window an audio device that is listed with hdmi in the name. Simply click on that, then hit the "test" button and see if a sample sound is played. If you like what you hear, you can move that device up (higher in preference) in all the relevant categories on the left side to make it the default. You can play with the audio hardware setup tab, but I think it is quicker and you don't have to select and enable and fiddle with things to see,um, hear, if sound is coming from the hdmi. A small thing to check is to run alsamixer from the terminal, and make sure that the hdmi device is not muted or any volumes turned down too low ( hit the f6 key to select different devices). The muting is common enough to warrant a quick check. -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 18 11:55:11 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:55:11 +0000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> <54BAFF61.7060300@optonline.net> <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I don't have any additional sound/gfx card installed. Pete On 18/01/15 02:55, Felix Miata wrote: > Doug composed on 2015-01-17 19:33 (UTC-0500): > >> Please tell us the name and model number of your video card. Or look up the specs yourself and let us know what you find. > Peter's OP told us > > M5A78L-M/USB3 > > which via Google leads to > > http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LMUSB3/ > > which says he has on the motherboard video > > Integrated ATI Radeon™ HD 3000 GPU > > unless he's installed an accessory card, and in audio description > > high-quality 192KHz/24-bit audio output and jack-detect > > > Maybe jack-detect interferes with getting audio onto the HDMI output if not > running Windows? As HD 3000 is a generic type, he should post audio device > output from lspci and/or hwinfo --sound if he'd like better than his current > solution. Being of the onboard type, it would not surprise me if his already > found solution turns out to be the only possible one. From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 18 11:59:54 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 11:59:54 +0000 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> <54BAFF61.7060300@optonline.net> <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> Message-ID: *lspci* 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. AMD RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3) 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 5) 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode] 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:12.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller 00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller 00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller 00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3c) 00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller 00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780L [Radeon 3000] 01:05.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780 HDMI Audio [Radeon (HD) 3000 Series] 02:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 1142 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 09) * **hwinfo --sound* No command 'hwinfo' found, did you mean: Command 'hinfo' from package 'ganeti-htools' (universe) hwinfo: command not found I've not bothered with any additional sound/gfx cards as I am happy with my current config. Pete On 18/01/15 02:55, Felix Miata wrote: > > Maybe jack-detect interferes with getting audio onto the HDMI output > if not running Windows? As HD 3000 is a generic type, he should post > audio device output from *lspci* and/or *hwinfo --sound* if he'd like > better than his current solution. Being of the onboard type, it would > not surprise me if his already found solution turns out to be the only > possible one. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From d.kuntadi at gmail.com Sun Jan 18 14:20:24 2015 From: d.kuntadi at gmail.com (David Kuntadi) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:20:24 +0700 Subject: Output to Samsung TV In-Reply-To: <54BB3535.3040504@optonline.net> References: <54BA798C.4000605@swbell.net> <54BAE9B5.1080400@swbell.net> <54BAFF61.7060300@optonline.net> <54BB20B0.30508@earthlink.net> <54BB3535.3040504@optonline.net> Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Doug wrote:> > BTW: When I finally got the sound working on both systems, I discovered > something > that I should really have known anyway: the sound out of the TV is > _terrible_! > I have reasonable fidelity at the computer, but sure not at the TV. I have > connected > an outboard amp and a pair of bookshelf speakers to the TV audio output > jack! > So if you're going to watch and listen to musical performances, be warned! But that is the easy way to get audio from computer to Home theatre audio set i.e. through TV HDMI, provided the TV has two HDMI connectors one of which provide ARC (Audio return channel) to Home theatre Audi set. DK From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 21 21:11:29 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:11:29 +0000 Subject: Video completely cuts out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, I have just encountered a problem I had last week with an old MoBo, M3A76-CM and NOW with my new MoBo, M578L-M/USB3. With my old one, I had it connected to a Samsung monitor (SyncMaster SA300) via the VGA connector and to my Samsung TV using the DVI output with a DVI to HDMI adapter.3 For a time it has been working great, that was until last week when both outputs decided to shut down. The PC was still on but there was no video output. I even tried to unplug and re-plug in the VGA connector but that didn’t solve it. Nor was it to do with the screen-saver as it could happen any time. ...It just happened now. I remembered a fix for it but I shouldn’t really have to be doing this... Turn the monitor off then disconnect the cable from the back of the tower. Then re-connect the cable, finally turn the monitor back on. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: peter maddison Subject: Video completely cuts out Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:22:32 +0000 Size: 2052 URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Fri Jan 23 07:03:18 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 23:03:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Kernel Compile Utils Message-ID: Howdy; Does anyone know where to find kernel compiling utils like config, menuconfig, etc.? One used to find them in the source directories, but *buntu doesn't seem to do that. Bill From info at alvin.be Fri Jan 23 07:11:01 2015 From: info at alvin.be (Alvin) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:11:01 +0100 Subject: Kernel Compile Utils In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54C1F405.40402@alvin.be> On 2015-01-23 08:03, Bill Vance wrote: > > Howdy; > > Does anyone know where to find kernel compiling utils like config, > menuconfig, etc.? One used to find them in the source directories, > but *buntu doesn't seem to do that. Install the kernel headers. linux-headers-generic is probably what you want. Then /usr/src will contain the necessary directories. You might need more packages like build-essential. make menuconfig will tell you what. From kassube at gmx.net Fri Jan 23 07:52:07 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:52:07 +0100 Subject: Kernel Compile Utils In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22221911.p66lLjmbTo@p5915> Bill Vance wrote: > Does anyone know where to find kernel compiling utils like config, > menuconfig, etc.? One used to find them in the source directories, > but *buntu doesn't seem to do that. If you want to see the configuration file for your installed kernel(s), please have a look at the "/boot" folder where you find files like "config-3.13.0-44-generic" where the part after the "config-" is the name of the associated kernel. If you want to change the kernel configuration and compile the kernel with that new configuration, please have a look at these pages: Nils From mrmazda at earthlink.net Fri Jan 23 10:07:08 2015 From: mrmazda at earthlink.net (Felix Miata) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 05:07:08 -0500 Subject: Video completely cuts out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <54C21D4C.9070108@earthlink.net> peter maddison composed on 2015-01-21 21:11 (UTC): > I have just encountered a problem I had last week with an old MoBo, > M3A76-CM and NOW with my new MoBo, M578L-M/USB3. > With my old one, I had it connected to a Samsung monitor (SyncMaster > SA300) via the VGA connector and to my Samsung TV using the DVI output > with a DVI to HDMI adapter.3 > For a time it has been working great, that was until last week > when both outputs decided to shut down. The PC was still on but there > was no video output. I even tried to unplug and re-plug in the VGA > connector but that didn’t solve it. Nor was it to do with the > screen-saver as it could happen any time. > > ...It just happened now. > > I remembered a fix for it but I shouldn’t really have to be doing this... > Turn the monitor off then disconnect the cable from the back of the > tower. Then re-connect the cable, finally turn the monitor back on. You might want to ask in a place that focuses on radeon hardware including your RS780L, such as xorg-driver-ati at lists.x.org or Google specifically for RS780L. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat Jan 24 15:36:55 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 07:36:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Kernel Compile Utils In-Reply-To: <22221911.p66lLjmbTo@p5915> References: <22221911.p66lLjmbTo@p5915> Message-ID: Thanks gang; Going through them, "help", files from time to time, can definitely clear things up. Bill From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 27 00:24:18 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:24:18 +0000 Subject: Submitting A System Bug Message-ID: I am currently experiensing a problem with Muon Update Manager, System Settings and Konsole (terminal) failing to run. The system only informed me what was wrong when I tried to run Konsole. It came up with *KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'* when I tried to run it from using + then enter 'term' for 'terminal'. I tried to submit a bug report but when I tried, there was no entry for 'KDEInit', also, how do I get a system/crash dump so I can submit that with my problem? Hope someone can help me. Thanks Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 27 00:31:24 2015 From: ponchorat1968 at hotmail.com (peter maddison) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 00:31:24 +0000 Subject: Submitting A System Bug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've posted this to the Kubuntu Bugs one so you need not reply to this thread, sorry for the mix up. Pete On 27/01/15 00:24, peter maddison wrote: > I am currently experiensing a problem with Muon Update Manager, System > Settings and Konsole (terminal) failing to run. > > The system only informed me what was wrong when I tried to run > Konsole. It came up with > > *KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'* when I tried to run it > from using + then enter 'term' for 'terminal'. > > I tried to submit a bug report but when I tried, there was no entry > for 'KDEInit', also, how do I get a system/crash dump so I can submit > that with my problem? > > Hope someone can help me. > > Thanks > Pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjlapham at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 06:32:07 2015 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 01:32:07 -0500 Subject: why do I have vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic but not initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic (32bit) Message-ID: <3235548.CqLz7pVgNb@jerry-hp> Why do I have vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic but not initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic (32bit)? Same thing happened with 3.13.0-43. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= "It's hydrochloric," said Tom acidly. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Wed Jan 28 07:46:17 2015 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 08:46:17 +0100 Subject: why do I have vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic but not initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic (32bit) In-Reply-To: <3235548.CqLz7pVgNb@jerry-hp> References: <3235548.CqLz7pVgNb@jerry-hp> Message-ID: <2116752.43Nk1ma02X@p5915> Jerry Lapham wrote: > Why do I have vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic but not > initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic (32bit)? Same thing happened with > 3.13.0-43. Sorry, I can't tell you the reason either, but of course there should be a file initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic. To correct the problem, you can run the command sudo update-initramfs -c -k 3.13.0-44-generic in a terminal (konsole). Usually that command is run by the installer automatically, so probably something went wrong when you installed the new kernel. Nils From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Thu Jan 29 21:39:43 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:39:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Package Listing Message-ID: Howdy; I'm not sure which prog might be best for this, (apt, apt-get, etc.), or even if it can be done, but is there a command that will return a complete listing of all the programs that have been downloaded, since installation day one? Bill From accessys at smart.net Thu Jan 29 22:01:22 2015 From: accessys at smart.net (accessys at smart.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:01:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Package Listing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: including ones that have been deleted??? the package manager should show the list of all that are installed or avaliable to be installed. not sure if that is what you are looking for check the Muon package manager Bob On Thu, 29 Jan 2015, Bill Vance wrote: > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:39:43 -0800 (PST) > From: Bill Vance > Reply-To: Kubuntu user technical support > To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Package Listing > > > Howdy; > > I'm not sure which prog might be best for this, (apt, apt-get, etc.), > or even if it can be done, but is there a command that will return a complete > listing of all the programs that have been downloaded, since installation day > one? > > Bill > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From stan10x10 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 22:07:23 2015 From: stan10x10 at gmail.com (Uriah Heep) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:07:23 -0500 Subject: Package Listing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At work (windows) computer now but I believe symantic may do so. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Bill Vance wrote: > > Howdy; > > I'm not sure which prog might be best for this, (apt, apt-get, etc.), > or even if it can be done, but is there a command that will return a > complete listing of all the programs that have been downloaded, since > installation day one? > > Bill > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Muon also has a "Save Installed Package List" which is a backup of the list of packages installed on your system, that can be restored after a fresh install. Apt's history files are found in /var/log/apt and dpkg history is at /var/log/dpkg.log There would be some filtering needed to make these usable for your need. I found a few possibly useful scripts here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21657/show-apt-get-installed-packages-history-via-commandline and here http://serverfault.com/questions/175504/how-do-i-get-the-history-of-apt-get-install-on-unbuntu -- Clay Weber https://kubuntuforums.net http://kubuntu.org http://claydoh.com From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 07:56:29 2015 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 07:56:29 +0000 Subject: Print service is unavailable bad file descriptor Message-ID: <4463572.J5FnJNcvyr@rachael> I've recently started seeing the error "Print service is unavailable bad file descriptor" when trying to print or when going into Printers in Settings. I've been able to get it working again by restarting cups, but I shouldn't need to. There's this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1393281 bug report on Launchpad, but that has expired. Is anyone else seeing this or know how to solve it? -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From myriam at kubuntu.org Fri Jan 30 09:54:17 2015 From: myriam at kubuntu.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:54:17 +0100 Subject: Print service is unavailable bad file descriptor In-Reply-To: <4463572.J5FnJNcvyr@rachael> References: <4463572.J5FnJNcvyr@rachael> Message-ID: Hi Mark, On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Mark Fraser wrote: > I've recently started seeing the error "Print service is unavailable bad > file > descriptor" when trying to print or when going into Printers in Settings. > I've > been able to get it working again by restarting cups, but I shouldn't need > to. > > There's this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1393281 > bug > report on Launchpad, but that has expired. > > Is anyone else seeing this or know how to solve it? > There have been two Cups updates in Kubuntu 14.10 since the release IIRC, I see no such errors here when I print (I don't print often, but it worked quite fine last week). Using an old LaserJet 6L connected over USB. Mind you, this can depend on a lot of factors, starting from the way the printer is connected to the printer itself. Regards, Myriam -- Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phb at hbsys.plus.com Fri Jan 30 11:00:45 2015 From: phb at hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:00:45 +0000 Subject: Print service is unavailable bad file descriptor In-Reply-To: <4463572.J5FnJNcvyr@rachael> References: <4463572.J5FnJNcvyr@rachael> Message-ID: <54CB645D.9080508@hbsys.plus.com> On 30/01/15 07:56, Mark Fraser wrote: > I've recently started seeing the error "Print service is unavailable bad file > descriptor" when trying to print or when going into Printers in Settings. I've > been able to get it working again by restarting cups, but I shouldn't need to. > > There's this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1393281 bug > report on Launchpad, but that has expired. > > Is anyone else seeing this or know how to solve it? It's a regular feature here as well. It's not a solution, but re-starting cups always works. Peter HB From rjlapham at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 03:10:09 2015 From: rjlapham at gmail.com (Jerry Lapham) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 22:10:09 -0500 Subject: why do I have vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic but not initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic (32bit) In-Reply-To: <2116752.43Nk1ma02X@p5915> References: <3235548.CqLz7pVgNb@jerry-hp> <2116752.43Nk1ma02X@p5915> Message-ID: <11957993.HbWY7fPbaA@jerry-hp> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 08:46:17 AM Nils Kassube wrote: > Jerry Lapham wrote: > > Why do I have vmlinuz-3.13.0-44-generic but not > > initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic (32bit)? Same thing happened with > > 3.13.0-43. > > Sorry, I can't tell you the reason either, but of course there should be > a file initrd.img-3.13.0-44-generic. To correct the problem, you can run > the command > > sudo update-initramfs -c -k 3.13.0-44-generic > > in a terminal (konsole). Usually that command is run by the installer > automatically, so probably something went wrong when you installed the > new kernel. Thanks. It worked. -Jerry ============================================= Jerry Lapham Monroe, OH 45050 rjlapham at gmail.com ============================================= Walk to Emmaus: Fueling station for a spirit-filled church -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat Jan 31 08:10:29 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 00:10:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Package Listing In-Reply-To: <1674181.bKEGkM0BK6@gus-latitude-d830> References: <1674181.bKEGkM0BK6@gus-latitude-d830> Message-ID: Thanks guys, that gave me a bunch of options. Got a real problem with one though. I was checking out Muon Package Manager, saw something I wanted, and started it going. I was then called out front for a bit, and when I got back, the problem had struck. It had started out with the usual double window, the top one listing the programs, and the bottom one giving a bit of detail about them. When I got back, the bottom window was gone, and I have no idea what happened, or how to get it back. I even did a, "apt-get install --reinstall muon", but its still no go. I hope someone has a clue here, 'cause I sure don't. Bill From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 09:09:24 2015 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 01:09:24 -0800 Subject: Package Listing In-Reply-To: References: <1674181.bKEGkM0BK6@gus-latitude-d830> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Bill Vance wrote: > > > Thanks guys, that gave me a bunch of options. Got a real problem with > one though. I was checking out Muon Package Manager, saw something I > wanted, and started it going. I was then called out front for a bit, > and when I got back, the problem had struck. It had started out with > the usual double window, the top one listing the programs, and the > bottom one giving a bit of detail about them. When I got back, the > bottom window was gone, and I have no idea what happened, or how to > get it back. > > I even did a, "apt-get install --reinstall muon", but its still no > go. I hope someone has a clue here, 'cause I sure don't. > > Bill Hi Bill, once you select an application, that bottom section opens up. Be sure to check out each of the tabs; they have a lot of useful information, such as dependencies and change lists. Yes, this information is available in the command line, but in Muon it is right there. What probably happened is that once the application was installed, it was no longer selected, and so the info section disappeared. Valorie From kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org Sat Jan 31 19:06:11 2015 From: kbun at xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:06:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Package Listing In-Reply-To: References: <1674181.bKEGkM0BK6@gus-latitude-d830> Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Jan 2015, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Bill Vance wrote: >> >> >> Thanks guys, that gave me a bunch of options. Got a real problem with >> one though. I was checking out Muon Package Manager, saw something I >> wanted, and started it going. I was then called out front for a bit, >> and when I got back, the problem had struck. It had started out with >> the usual double window, the top one listing the programs, and the >> bottom one giving a bit of detail about them. When I got back, the >> bottom window was gone, and I have no idea what happened, or how to >> get it back. >> >> I even did a, "apt-get install --reinstall muon", but its still no >> go. I hope someone has a clue here, 'cause I sure don't. >> >> Bill > > Hi Bill, once you select an application, that bottom section opens up. > Be sure to check out each of the tabs; they have a lot of useful > information, such as dependencies and change lists. Yes, this > information is available in the command line, but in Muon it is right > there. > > What probably happened is that once the application was installed, it > was no longer selected, and so the info section disappeared. > > Valorie Hmmmmmm, interesting. It works exactly as you describe. However, it was doing that from the start, sort of like Synaptic, which I usually use, but had a temporary problem with. Still not sure what was going on there, but it does work, so thanks for clearing that up. Bill