Kubuntu 14.10 end of life

[Aaron Honeycutt]

Plasma 5 is a continuation of the work from KDE 4 it is true that Plasma 5
does not have everything that KDE 4 has (yet) but they are being worked on
. If you need KDE 4 and all the current features it brings you should stay
with KDE 4 in 14.04 as it is a LTS. If you love Plasma 5 and want it to
help it developer into a better and more stable environment please run the
latest Kubuntu release and file bugs and test with us in #kubuntu-devel and
the kubuntu-devel mailing list. :)

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Jörn Schönyan <joern.schoenyan at web.de>
wrote:

> Am Freitag, den 24.07.2015, 11:40 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> > You are angry, but you don't explain the benefits of the new KDE, resp.
> > don't care about the drawbacks for many KDE users. Those users are
> > disappointed and explain issues. Why does it make you angry?
> The benefits? Plasma 5 is way faster (so that fixed complains in the past,
> KDE software would be too slow/heavy) and it paves the way for Wayland
> (but I guess that is the next thing you will complain about). "Many KDE
> users"
> stay with the LTS releases, and because of that 15.04 was the right time to
> change to Plasma 5 to make it ready for the next LTS.
>
> > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:45:39 +0200, Jörn Schönyan wrote:
> > >Sometimes there is need for a technology change. Life is changing, and
> > >technologies change, too.
> >
> > But there never will be a time when it makes sense to use such a Pot:
> >
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/The_Design_of_Everyday_Things_%28cover_1988%29.jpg
> You and your dumb tea pot!
> > [...]
> > This discussion isn't about Ubuntu, neither about the flavour Kubuntu
> > per se. Users might install Kubuntu to avoid issues with Ubuntu, resp.
> > to avoid issues with other Ubuntu flavours. They not necessarily want
> > to use KDE. However, many users want to use KDE, but they want to use a
> > stable KDE environment and stay with their work flows. It's true that a
> > LTS might be the better choice, but it's untrue that the policy to
> > introduce unfinished, unstable new software as stable release is good
> > for progress/evolution. This is just a fashion, of a part of the Linux
> > community, not a policy of the Linux community as a whole.
> Plasma 5 isn't that unstable as you describe it. Yes, it is unfinished -
> but many people are using it and are happy. The rest can stay with 4.x
> until 5 matures enough.
> > To discuss the approach to continue releasing unfinished, unstable
> > software is also a contribution to the community, a contribution the
> > Linux community needs.
> No it's unnecessary, it wastes time.
> > The Problem is that as soon an environment isn't backwards compatible
> > and brakes things, others have to work around it, fortunately not the
> > whole Linux community follows this policy. A desktop environment is
> > nearly as important as the kernel is. I hope the behaviour of desktop
> > environment developers soon will follow what for the kernel
> > development already happened.
> Of course the desktop is important, you are totally right with that.
> > "Kay - one more time: you caused the problem, you need to fix it. None
> > of this "I can do whatever I want, others have to clean up after me"
> > crap.
> >
> >                  Linus" - https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/4/2/420
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ralf
> >
> > PS: Since you mentiond Arch and your argumentation is based on what
> > other do, Arch did not switch to Plasma 5, upstream did and Arch simply
> > is a rolling release, following official releases from upstream. Arch
> > isn't user-friendly, it's user-centric and an Arch user maintains
> > her/his own install. You can't compare this with a user-friendly
> > release model distro. Also comparisons with commercial distros is
> > questionable.
> >
> Right: upstream can't care longer about KDE 4.x and recommended to
> switch to Plasma 5. So Kubuntu devs did it. If you are unhappy with, you
> know what is to do.
>
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