From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 06:33:39 2016 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:33:39 +0200 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? Message-ID: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> Dear all, am I reading this right: Known Issues: KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness. We are aware, and will likely drop it from xenialall together. We just do not have the resources to keep fighting with it. Upstream is making massive changes and ABI is broken. Aka, even if we manage to get the builds green, there is still large chances for crashy behavior. from this post: http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2016/kubuntu-kde-where-oh-where-have-i-been-busy-i-say/ Cause if that is case then I will swap distro. KDE PIM is more than half the reason I use KDE/Kubuntu regards, Sinclair From luca at ventoso.org Fri Mar 4 07:09:18 2016 From: luca at ventoso.org (Luca Olivetti) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:09:18 +0100 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> El 04/03/16 a les 07:33, O. Sinclair ha escrit: > Dear all, > > am I reading this right: > Known Issues: > KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness. Well, of the kde pim suite I only use knotes and it *is* broken in current kubuntu: I randomly either get all of my notes, none of them, or they are completely black. In fact, I don't use it anymore, I cannot rely on it. Bye -- Luca From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 07:31:37 2016 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 09:31:37 +0200 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> Message-ID: <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> On 04/03/2016 09:09, Luca Olivetti wrote: > El 04/03/16 a les 07:33, O. Sinclair ha escrit: >> Dear all, >> >> am I reading this right: >> Known Issues: >> KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness. > > Well, of the kde pim suite I only use knotes and it *is* broken in > current kubuntu: I randomly either get all of my notes, none of them, or > they are completely black. > In fact, I don't use it anymore, I cannot rely on it. > > Bye Knotes is "abandonware" sadly - I have since long resorted to Basket.. that is also "abandonware". But to me the core of KDEPIM is KMail, Contacts, Akregator, ToDo and so on From mmtsales at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 11:33:58 2016 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 08:33:58 -0300 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> Message-ID: To tell the truth, KDEPIM is broken since the first 4.x version. It used to work so well in KDE 3.5.x, but after the "akonadified" KDEPIM 4, nothing is reliable as it used to be anymore. I've been fighting all this time to find a way through all the many bugs, crashes and freezes of KMail because I've been unable to find another mail client that can be configured to do all the things KMail does (or did) and I was always hopeful that things would get better with time, but I'm really tired of all this and in the last few months I've been seriously considering to switch to another mail client. I found no other client that is so resourceful as KMail once was, but it is more important to me that it is reliable and fast. KMail really hasn't been either for a long time and I should have abandoned it long ago. If Kubuntu does not ship KDEPIM anymore, it will be just the little push I needed to make the change, and I will wecome that. I think KDE as a whole will behave better without KDEPIM. []'s Marcelo 2016-03-04 4:31 GMT-03:00 O. Sinclair : > On 04/03/2016 09:09, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > El 04/03/16 a les 07:33, O. Sinclair ha escrit: > >> Dear all, > >> > >> am I reading this right: > >> Known Issues: > >> KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness. > > > > Well, of the kde pim suite I only use knotes and it *is* broken in > > current kubuntu: I randomly either get all of my notes, none of them, or > > they are completely black. > > In fact, I don't use it anymore, I cannot rely on it. > > > > Bye > Knotes is "abandonware" sadly - I have since long resorted to Basket.. > that is also "abandonware". But to me the core of KDEPIM is KMail, > Contacts, Akregator, ToDo and so on > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at thefletchers.net Fri Mar 4 12:21:24 2016 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 12:21:24 +0000 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1457094084.2584.18.camel@Tosh-NB520> On Fri, 2016-03-04 at 08:33 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > To tell the truth, KDEPIM is broken since the first 4.x version. It > used to work so well in KDE 3.5.x, but after the "akonadified" KDEPIM > 4, nothing is reliable as it used to be anymore. > I've been fighting all this time to find a way through all the many > bugs, crashes and freezes of KMail because I've been unable to find > another mail client that can be configured to do all the things KMail > does (or did) and I was always hopeful that things would get better > with time, but I'm really tired of all this and in the last few months > I've been seriously considering to switch to another mail client. I > found no other client that is so resourceful as KMail once was, but it > is more important to me that it is reliable and fast. KMail really > hasn't been either for a long time and I should have abandoned it long > ago. > If Kubuntu does not ship KDEPIM anymore, it will be just the little > push I needed to make the change, and I will wecome that. I think KDE > as a whole will behave better without KDEPIM. Some years ago I was an enthusiast of KDE. Then it was decided, if I remember correctly, to write a completely new version, which for me was completely unsatisfactory as it simply didn't work properly for me. I decided to dump all of my messages out of kmail and into a maildir on a mini server that I'd decided to build. I shifted to Ubuntu with gnome which with whatever mail client it came with, I was perfectly happy with. Then it was decided to rewrite gnome. What a mess it all turned into, that simply didn't work properly for me. So, off to Linux Mint. I'm using Evolution with the same maildir I set up years ago. At first, Evolution obviously had bugs which would cause it to crash when doing certain things with it. Obviously it has been worked on and for me it now works pretty much perfectly. A very pleasant surprise for me was that when I bought a Moto G to replace my rather old Nokia 6230i, it was a piece of cake to export all my contacts from Evolution to a vcard file, which imported with no problem at all into my Moto G. If you're writing PIM/email software, it's a solemn responsibility that you're taking on because it's other people's Personal Information that you're Managing. For this reason I always prefer reliable software over smartass software. I don't know whether or not Evolution is any faster or more functional than whatever KDE now provides, but for me it's reliable. Dave From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 13:53:59 2016 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:53:59 +0200 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56D99377.5010106@gmail.com> On 04/03/2016 13:33, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > To tell the truth, KDEPIM is broken since the first 4.x version. It used > to work so well in KDE 3.5.x, but after the "akonadified" KDEPIM 4, > nothing is reliable as it used to be anymore. > I've been fighting all this time to find a way through all the many > bugs, crashes and freezes of KMail because I've been unable to find > another mail client that can be configured to do all the things KMail > does (or did) and I was always hopeful that things would get better with > time, but I'm really tired of all this and in the last few months I've > been seriously considering to switch to another mail client. I found no > other client that is so resourceful as KMail once was, but it is more > important to me that it is reliable and fast. KMail really hasn't been > either for a long time and I should have abandoned it long ago. > If Kubuntu does not ship KDEPIM anymore, it will be just the little push > I needed to make the change, and I will wecome that. I think KDE as a > whole will behave better without KDEPIM. > Well I don't quite agree. I have very few problems using the 4.14.3 version. I get the odd duplicate email (something to do with filters). To me it is not broken but perhaps the Plasma5 version is. In any case I will stay on 14.10 for now. I have tried 15.04 and it simply crashed. Have also toyed around w Manjaro (rolling) but just get irritated after a while as so many things I am used to does not seem to work in P5. In any case, I will wait and see. To me functionality is more important than "new and shiny". If 16.04 comes with no KDEPIM I will either sit it out on 14.10 or look for another distro From gheskett at wdtv.com Fri Mar 4 14:03:13 2016 From: gheskett at wdtv.com (Gene Heskett) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 09:03:13 -0500 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201603040903.13053.gheskett@wdtv.com> On Friday 04 March 2016 06:33:58 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > To tell the truth, KDEPIM is broken since the first 4.x version. It > used to work so well in KDE 3.5.x, but after the "akonadified" KDEPIM > 4, nothing is reliable as it used to be anymore. > I've been fighting all this time to find a way through all the many > bugs, crashes and freezes of KMail because I've been unable to find > another mail client that can be configured to do all the things KMail > does (or did) and I was always hopeful that things would get better > with time, but I'm really tired of all this and in the last few months > I've been seriously considering to switch to another mail client. I > found no other client that is so resourceful as KMail once was, but it > is more important to me that it is reliable and fast. KMail really > hasn't been either for a long time and I should have abandoned it long > ago. > If Kubuntu does not ship KDEPIM anymore, it will be just the little > push I needed to make the change, and I will wecome that. I think KDE > as a whole will behave better without KDEPIM. > > []'s > Marcelo This is probably the wrong list to point this out, but... For all of the above reasons, and the non-responsiveness of the kde group to address real world usage problems, I switched to TDE, which is a fork of KDE as of nominally 3.5. Emphasis since has been on bugfixing, but the amount of updates in a month are staggering, yet none of those updates has created a single problem for me. Currently running TDE r14.0.3 here. KMail itself has had 3 or 4 updates, but its internal version has remained at 1.9.10. I should note that I do the mail suckage with fetchmail, with a prefilter by mailfilter, and postfiltering by procmail, whose main job is to run incoming mail past clamscand and spamassassin, so my kmail doesn't freeze the system for more than a small fraction of a second because it doesn't have to reach any farther that /var/spool/mail to get new mail when it gets a message to go get the mail from a script I wrote to tell kmail to go get it when a new mail has arrived. IMO mail shouldn't require /any/ user intervention to show up in kmail, nor should kmail freeze the system for 30+ seconds by going out on the net to fetch/check for mail on a regular schedule. Fetchmail does that as a background task with zero effect on the rest of the system. I'll get me coat now. > 2016-03-04 4:31 GMT-03:00 O. Sinclair : > > On 04/03/2016 09:09, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > > El 04/03/16 a les 07:33, O. Sinclair ha escrit: > > >> Dear all, > > >> > > >> am I reading this right: > > >> Known Issues: > > >> KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness. > > > > > > Well, of the kde pim suite I only use knotes and it *is* broken in > > > current kubuntu: I randomly either get all of my notes, none of > > > them, or they are completely black. > > > In fact, I don't use it anymore, I cannot rely on it. > > > > > > Bye > > > > Knotes is "abandonware" sadly - I have since long resorted to > > Basket.. that is also "abandonware". But to me the core of KDEPIM is > > KMail, Contacts, Akregator, ToDo and so on > > > > -- > > kubuntu-users mailing list > > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page From mmtsales at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 14:13:52 2016 From: mmtsales at gmail.com (Marcelo Magno T. Sales) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 11:13:52 -0300 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: <56D99377.5010106@gmail.com> References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> <56D99377.5010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: Maybe you should go back to 14.04 then, because 14.10 reached its EOL and its repositories are no longer available. I didn't go beyond 14.10 either, because I did not want to go to plasma 5 so early after all I read about it being incomplete and not completely functional. I think I got traumatized when I switched to KDE 4 right after it was made available. However, now I'm running 14.04 again, because I couldn't install anything from the repos in 14.10 anymore... []'s Marcelo 2016-03-04 10:53 GMT-03:00 O. Sinclair : > On 04/03/2016 13:33, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > To tell the truth, KDEPIM is broken since the first 4.x version. It used > > to work so well in KDE 3.5.x, but after the "akonadified" KDEPIM 4, > > nothing is reliable as it used to be anymore. > > I've been fighting all this time to find a way through all the many > > bugs, crashes and freezes of KMail because I've been unable to find > > another mail client that can be configured to do all the things KMail > > does (or did) and I was always hopeful that things would get better with > > time, but I'm really tired of all this and in the last few months I've > > been seriously considering to switch to another mail client. I found no > > other client that is so resourceful as KMail once was, but it is more > > important to me that it is reliable and fast. KMail really hasn't been > > either for a long time and I should have abandoned it long ago. > > If Kubuntu does not ship KDEPIM anymore, it will be just the little push > > I needed to make the change, and I will wecome that. I think KDE as a > > whole will behave better without KDEPIM. > > > > Well I don't quite agree. I have very few problems using the 4.14.3 > version. I get the odd duplicate email (something to do with filters). > To me it is not broken but perhaps the Plasma5 version is. In any case I > will stay on 14.10 for now. I have tried 15.04 and it simply crashed. > Have also toyed around w Manjaro (rolling) but just get irritated after > a while as so many things I am used to does not seem to work in P5. > > In any case, I will wait and see. To me functionality is more important > than "new and shiny". If 16.04 comes with no KDEPIM I will either sit it > out on 14.10 or look for another distro > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From o.sinclair at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 14:28:03 2016 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:28:03 +0200 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> <56D9349E.2040907@ventoso.org> <56D939D9.4020605@gmail.com> <56D99377.5010106@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56D99B73.80806@gmail.com> On 04/03/2016 16:13, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > Maybe you should go back to 14.04 then, because 14.10 reached its EOL > and its repositories are no longer available. > I didn't go beyond 14.10 either, because I did not want to go to plasma > 5 so early after all I read about it being incomplete and not completely > functional. I think I got traumatized when I switched to KDE 4 right > after it was made available. However, now I'm running 14.04 again, > because I couldn't install anything from the repos in 14.10 anymore... > > []'s > Marcelo > > 2016-03-04 10:53 GMT-03:00 O. Sinclair >: > > On 04/03/2016 13:33, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > To tell the truth, KDEPIM is broken since the first 4.x version. It used > > to work so well in KDE 3.5.x, but after the "akonadified" KDEPIM 4, > > nothing is reliable as it used to be anymore. > > I've been fighting all this time to find a way through all the many > > bugs, crashes and freezes of KMail because I've been unable to find > > another mail client that can be configured to do all the things KMail > > does (or did) and I was always hopeful that things would get better with > > time, but I'm really tired of all this and in the last few months I've > > been seriously considering to switch to another mail client. I found no > > other client that is so resourceful as KMail once was, but it is more > > important to me that it is reliable and fast. KMail really hasn't been > > either for a long time and I should have abandoned it long ago. > > If Kubuntu does not ship KDEPIM anymore, it will be just the little push > > I needed to make the change, and I will wecome that. I think KDE as a > > whole will behave better without KDEPIM. > > > > Well I don't quite agree. I have very few problems using the 4.14.3 > version. I get the odd duplicate email (something to do with filters). > To me it is not broken but perhaps the Plasma5 version is. In any case I > will stay on 14.10 for now. I have tried 15.04 and it simply crashed. > Have also toyed around w Manjaro (rolling) but just get irritated after > a while as so many things I am used to does not seem to work in P5. > > In any case, I will wait and see. To me functionality is more important > than "new and shiny". If 16.04 comes with no KDEPIM I will either sit it > out on 14.10 or look for another distro > > -- Well the repos are available if you look around a bit. Am using sunet Sweden repos though I am very far away from Sweden. But of course upgrades are not many though I cheat a bit by putting some (eg Libreoffice) repos to the LTS version. So far very few problems, I have like 6 packages that refuse to upgrade. Can live with that. Am on Libreoffice 5.1, latest Chrome and so on. Using kernel 4.4 via mainline kernel ppa. All in all I say I am good - just irritated that any attempt to upgrade to Plasma 5 seems to go bonkers and that Kubuntu seems to be heading somewhere I am not sure I like. Like 15.10 insisting my /home is ext2 when it is ext4... Am very happy I use CloneZilla - reverting takes about 5 minutes From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Mar 6 07:29:27 2016 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 23:29:27 -0800 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:33 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: > Dear all, > > am I reading this right: > Known Issues: > KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness. We are aware, and will > likely drop it from xenialall together. We just do not have the > resources to keep fighting with it. Upstream is making massive > changes and ABI is broken. Aka, even if we manage to get the builds > green, there is still large chances for crashy behavior. > > from this post: > http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2016/kubuntu-kde-where-oh-where-have-i-been-busy-i-say/ If you look at Scarlett's followup post, by working the problem over and over again, she got it to build, so it will be in 16.04. All of the testers so far are using PIM with no problems in 16.04. > Cause if that is case then I will swap distro. KDE PIM is more than half > the reason I use KDE/Kubuntu > > regards, > Sinclair Valorie From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Mar 6 09:10:52 2016 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 11:10:52 +0200 Subject: 16.04 w/o KDE PIM? In-Reply-To: References: <56D92C43.8020103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56DBF41C.3050501@gmail.com> On 06/03/2016 09:29, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:33 PM, O. Sinclair wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> am I reading this right: >> Known Issues: >> KDE PIM is in a broken state of brokenness. We are aware, and will >> likely drop it from xenialall together. We just do not have the >> resources to keep fighting with it. Upstream is making massive >> changes and ABI is broken. Aka, even if we manage to get the builds >> green, there is still large chances for crashy behavior. >> >> from this post: >> http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2016/kubuntu-kde-where-oh-where-have-i-been-busy-i-say/ > > If you look at Scarlett's followup post, by working the problem over > and over again, she got it to build, so it will be in 16.04. All of > the testers so far are using PIM with no problems in 16.04. > >> Cause if that is case then I will swap distro. KDE PIM is more than half >> the reason I use KDE/Kubuntu >> >> regards, >> Sinclair > > Valorie > Dear Valorie, in which case perhaps she should perhaps have gone easy on her posting, right? kind regards Sinclair From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 20:02:24 2016 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 21:02:24 +0100 Subject: Audio In-Reply-To: <2646379.40eWoWFmJN@lane> References: <2646379.40eWoWFmJN@lane> Message-ID: <56E08150.6010902@gmail.com> Il 02/02/2016 20:26, Aln ha scritto: > Hi Robert > > I had a similar problem with audio on my Kubuntu 15.10 after one of the > updates 2 or 3 weeks ago. Logging out and logging in again seemed to solve it > and sound device was finally detected, however it was not a permanent > solution. > > I've played with configuration a little bit and since couple of days this > problem disappeared. I think that adding your user to audio group did the > trick. Install kuser and check if that helps. > I'm experiencing the same issue from yesterday on. I'll try now to install kuser and make the change. This is not good for Kubuntu. Ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org From valtermura at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 20:52:51 2016 From: valtermura at gmail.com (Valter Mura) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 21:52:51 +0100 Subject: Audio In-Reply-To: <56E08150.6010902@gmail.com> References: <2646379.40eWoWFmJN@lane> <56E08150.6010902@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Solved by using the audio group tip, but this workaround is not good for medium user, who maybe cannot manage the problem by himself/herself Ciao Valter Open Source is better! Sent from my Android device Il 09/mar/2016 21:02, "Valter Mura" ha scritto: > Il 02/02/2016 20:26, Aln ha scritto: > >> Hi Robert >> >> I had a similar problem with audio on my Kubuntu 15.10 after one of the >> updates 2 or 3 weeks ago. Logging out and logging in again seemed to >> solve it >> and sound device was finally detected, however it was not a permanent >> solution. >> >> I've played with configuration a little bit and since couple of days this >> problem disappeared. I think that adding your user to audio group did the >> trick. Install kuser and check if that helps. >> >> > I'm experiencing the same issue from yesterday on. > > I'll try now to install kuser and make the change. > > This is not good for Kubuntu. > > Ciao > -- > Valter > Open Source is better! > KDE: www.kde.org > Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org > LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 03:33:25 2016 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:33:25 -0800 Subject: Audio In-Reply-To: References: <2646379.40eWoWFmJN@lane> <56E08150.6010902@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Valter Mura wrote: > Hi > > Solved by using the audio group tip, but this workaround is not good for > medium user, who maybe cannot manage the problem by himself/herself > > Ciao > > Valter > Open Source is better! > Sent from my Android device > > Il 09/mar/2016 21:02, "Valter Mura" ha scritto: >> >> Il 02/02/2016 20:26, Aln ha scritto: >>> >>> Hi Robert >>> >>> I had a similar problem with audio on my Kubuntu 15.10 after one of the >>> updates 2 or 3 weeks ago. Logging out and logging in again seemed to >>> solve it >>> and sound device was finally detected, however it was not a permanent >>> solution. >>> >>> I've played with configuration a little bit and since couple of days this >>> problem disappeared. I think that adding your user to audio group did the >>> trick. Install kuser and check if that helps. >>> >> >> I'm experiencing the same issue from yesterday on. >> >> I'll try now to install kuser and make the change. >> >> This is not good for Kubuntu. >> >> Ciao >> -- >> Valter So, have any of you reported this bug? The developers rarely have time to read this list, and I've seen nobody in IRC reporting it. One of you report the bug on Launchpad please, and the others mark "this affects me too" and add any relevant info. The easiest way to report a bug is to do it in the commandline `ubuntu-bug systemd` or so. If it is marked against the wrong component, the devels will move it. The important part is to *file a bug report.* Please. Valorie From luca at ventoso.org Thu Mar 10 08:14:47 2016 From: luca at ventoso.org (Luca Olivetti) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 09:14:47 +0100 Subject: Double monitor woes Message-ID: <56E12CF7.5050804@ventoso.org> Every morning, when I arrive at the office and plug the external monitor, I have to perform this dance: 1) in spite of my setting of the laptop screen as the primary monitor, the main panel shifts to the external monitor 2) I then have to open system setting, monitor, select the external monitor as primary, apply. At this point the panel disappears (but plasmashell is still running). 3) Select the laptop monitor as primary, apply. 4) killall plasmashell, alt+f2 to launch a new copy of plasmashell. If I'm lucky, this works, if not I have to repeat the procedure until it works. At times I see the panel switching many times between the two monitors until if finally settles on one. plasma-workspace is 4:5.5.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~pp, amd64 Bye -- Luca From mrvanes at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 10:07:32 2016 From: mrvanes at gmail.com (Martin van Es) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:07:32 +0100 Subject: Double monitor woes In-Reply-To: <56E12CF7.5050804@ventoso.org> References: <56E12CF7.5050804@ventoso.org> Message-ID: Hi Luca, Plasma multi-monitor support is very broken at the moment: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358353 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355082 My hope is 5.6 wil bring multi-monitor improvements as the changelog predicts. Regards, Martin On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Every morning, when I arrive at the office and plug the external monitor, > I have to perform this dance: > > 1) in spite of my setting of the laptop screen as the primary monitor, the > main panel shifts to the external monitor > > 2) I then have to open system setting, monitor, select the external > monitor as primary, apply. At this point the panel disappears (but > plasmashell is still running). > > 3) Select the laptop monitor as primary, apply. > > 4) killall plasmashell, alt+f2 to launch a new copy of plasmashell. > > > If I'm lucky, this works, if not I have to repeat the procedure until it > works. > At times I see the panel switching many times between the two monitors > until if finally settles on one. > > plasma-workspace is 4:5.5.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~pp, amd64 > > > Bye > -- > Luca > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -- If 'but' was any useful, it would be a logic operator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luca at ventoso.org Thu Mar 10 11:48:03 2016 From: luca at ventoso.org (Luca Olivetti) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:48:03 +0100 Subject: Double monitor woes In-Reply-To: References: <56E12CF7.5050804@ventoso.org> Message-ID: <56E15EF3.3070306@ventoso.org> El 10/03/16 a les 11:07, Martin van Es ha escrit: > Hi Luca, > > Plasma multi-monitor support is very broken at the moment: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358353 > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355082 Thank you, at least I'm not the only one... > > My hope is 5.6 wil bring multi-monitor improvements as the changelog > predicts. If so there will only be 999 paper cuts left ;-) Bye -- Luca From lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com Sat Mar 19 09:06:39 2016 From: lorenzo.bettini at gmail.com (Lorenzo Bettini) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 10:06:39 +0100 Subject: plasma workspace very slow at startup In-Reply-To: <46743730.ZGg4gCHQoF@tuxin> References: <46743730.ZGg4gCHQoF@tuxin> Message-ID: On 30/11/2015 14:46, Sandro Knauß wrote: > Hey, > > there are roumors, that akonadi it the source of the problem. > > The workaround should be to run "akoandictl stop" before shutting down. It > would be quite usefull if you test if you run that command before shutting > down fixing the issue. Than it is more likely, that we find a way to reproduce > it. > Hi sorry for the delay. I confirm that running "akonadictl stop" before logging out (or shutting down) makes the next workspace startup much faster (as it used to be). Of course, when the workspace has started akonadi is brought to life again, so the next workspace startups are as slow as before. So do you suggest to stop it at logout time? cheers Lorenzo -- Prof. Lorenzo Bettini, Computer Science, DISIA, Univ. Firenze HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it Xtext Book: http://www.packtpub.com/implementing-domain-specific-languages-with-xtext-and-xtend/book From post at volker-wysk.de Sat Mar 19 15:30:57 2016 From: post at volker-wysk.de (Volker Wysk) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:30:57 +0100 Subject: WLAN missing on freshly installed Laptop Message-ID: <9072326.aWCpZQ8jPz@desktop> Hello everybody. I want to install Kubuntu on a friend's laptop (about seven years old), but I can't get WLAN to work, although I've installed it on my own Laptop, which did work properly. There is no WLAN-configuration in the Kubuntu-Installer. I can't remember the command to report this any longer, but the machine appears to have a WLAN controller. On my own Laptop, there is a KDE WLAN icon, in the control bar at the bottom, where you can chose a WLAN hotspot. This is missing on my friend's. We also could not find something WLAN related in the System Settings. In the Kubuntu installer it appears the networking configuration is skipped. My friend's laptop is a Dell Vostro 1720. The distribution is Kubuntu 15.10. I would be grateful for any suggestions. Cheers Volker From o.sinclair at gmail.com Sun Mar 20 07:13:19 2016 From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 09:13:19 +0200 Subject: WLAN missing on freshly installed Laptop In-Reply-To: <9072326.aWCpZQ8jPz@desktop> References: <9072326.aWCpZQ8jPz@desktop> Message-ID: <56EE4D8F.1090507@gmail.com> On 19/03/2016 17:30, Volker Wysk wrote: > Hello everybody. > > I want to install Kubuntu on a friend's laptop (about seven years old), but I > can't get WLAN to work, > although I've installed it on my own Laptop, which did work properly. > > There is no WLAN-configuration in the Kubuntu-Installer. > > I can't remember the command to report this any longer, but the machine > appears to have a WLAN controller. > > On my own Laptop, there is a KDE WLAN icon, in the control bar at the bottom, > where you can chose a WLAN hotspot. This is missing on my friend's. We also > could not find something WLAN related in the System Settings. > > In the Kubuntu installer it appears the networking configuration is skipped. > > My friend's laptop is a Dell Vostro 1720. The distribution is Kubuntu 15.10. > > > I would be grateful for any suggestions. > > Cheers > Volker > My best bet on this would be to connect via cable and then do a drivers check. it could be there is no free driver for his WLAN but it could then pop up in the driver check (System Settings), you download it and then you are good to go Broadcomm are notoriously difficult in Linux, as an example kind regards Sinclair From post at volker-wysk.de Sun Mar 20 11:14:58 2016 From: post at volker-wysk.de (Volker Wysk) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:14:58 +0100 Subject: WLAN missing on freshly installed Laptop In-Reply-To: <56EE4D8F.1090507@gmail.com> References: <9072326.aWCpZQ8jPz@desktop> <56EE4D8F.1090507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1792874.SXoNoUxLG4@desktop> Am Sunday 20 March 2016, 09:13:19 schrieb O. Sinclair: > My best bet on this would be to connect via cable and then do a drivers > check. it could be there is no free driver for his WLAN but it could > then pop up in the driver check (System Settings), you download it and > then you are good to go > Broadcomm are notoriously difficult in Linux, as an example Many thanks! I'll do that, the next time my friend is at my place, or when he lends me his Laptop. Bye, Volker From kassube at gmx.net Sun Mar 20 12:07:30 2016 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 13:07:30 +0100 Subject: WLAN missing on freshly installed Laptop In-Reply-To: <1792874.SXoNoUxLG4@desktop> References: <9072326.aWCpZQ8jPz@desktop> <56EE4D8F.1090507@gmail.com> <1792874.SXoNoUxLG4@desktop> Message-ID: <1817227.o7gF219L2I@p5915> Volker Wysk wrote: > Many thanks! I'll do that, the next time my friend is at my place, or > when he lends me his Laptop. And please also check that the WLAN is eabled - some laptops (e.g. from Toshiba) have a mechanical switch for that. Nils From post at volker-wysk.de Mon Mar 21 06:24:19 2016 From: post at volker-wysk.de (Volker Wysk) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:24:19 +0100 Subject: WLAN missing on freshly installed Laptop In-Reply-To: <1817227.o7gF219L2I@p5915> References: <9072326.aWCpZQ8jPz@desktop> <1792874.SXoNoUxLG4@desktop> <1817227.o7gF219L2I@p5915> Message-ID: <1654586.7xgbrzzFf6@desktop> Am Sunday 20 March 2016, 13:07:30 schrieb Nils Kassube: > Volker Wysk wrote: > > Many thanks! I'll do that, the next time my friend is at my place, or > > when he lends me his Laptop. > > And please also check that the WLAN is eabled - some laptops (e.g. from > Toshiba) have a mechanical switch for that. Okay, thanks for the hint. Volker From reb at barmannsbar.com Thu Mar 24 17:11:06 2016 From: reb at barmannsbar.com (Richard Barmann) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:11:06 -0400 Subject: after Daily update Kubuntu 15.10 will not boot up Message-ID: <56F41FAA.90809@barmannsbar.com> Yesterday I saw that I had 60 updates w/17 being security. I installed the updates as I usually do. When I rebooted it goes as far as the Kubuntu 15.10 and the four little dots that work left to right as it loads. Then it goes to a blank screen and does not load. Was there something wrong with yesterdays update? Please Help and Thank You. Dick Barmann From reb68 at att.net Thu Mar 24 20:21:03 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:21:03 -0400 Subject: after Daily update Kubuntu 15.10 will not boot up In-Reply-To: <56F41FAA.90809@barmannsbar.com> References: <56F41FAA.90809@barmannsbar.com> Message-ID: <56F44C2F.9080504@att.net> On 03/24/2016 01:11 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > Yesterday I saw that I had 60 updates w/17 being security. I installed > the updates as I usually do. When I rebooted it goes as far as the > Kubuntu 15.10 and the four little dots that work left to right as it > loads. Then it goes to a blank screen and does not load. Was there > something wrong with yesterdays update? Please Help and Thank You. > Dick Barmann > On the same PC the Ubuntu 15.10 is working fine. The upgrade only affected Kubuntu. Is there a way of backing out the upgrade.? From rpc at bewitching.me Thu Mar 24 21:39:34 2016 From: rpc at bewitching.me (Robert Charbonneau) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:39:34 -0400 Subject: after Daily update Kubuntu 15.10 will not boot up In-Reply-To: <56F44C2F.9080504@att.net> References: <56F41FAA.90809@barmannsbar.com> <56F44C2F.9080504@att.net> Message-ID: <56F45E96.9010906@gmail.com> Hi there Richard. I updated both yesterday and today and have had no booting or issues logging on at all. Were you using Kubuntu default display manager for 15.10 (sddm)? Some info on the PC might help others to assist you. On 2016-03-24 04:21 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > > On 03/24/2016 01:11 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> Yesterday I saw that I had 60 updates w/17 being security. I >> installed the updates as I usually do. When I rebooted it goes as far >> as the Kubuntu 15.10 and the four little dots that work left to right >> as it loads. Then it goes to a blank screen and does not load. 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Can I undo that update or is there a way to correct this? Thank you in advance for any help.. Dick Barmann From reb68 at att.net Sun Mar 27 18:37:58 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:37:58 -0400 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space Message-ID: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> I am trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 16.04 But cannot download an .iso or upgrade but PC tells me I Have no room. Attached are the partitions of my two drives. Can you see anything that would cause this. In think I have lots of space. I also have a 75GB Drive If it would help I could send it also. Thanks for any help Dick Barmann -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages are downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that directory a symbolic link to a directory on another partition with sufficient space, it could also work. Nils From myriam at kde.org Sun Mar 27 19:42:00 2016 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:42:00 +0200 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> Message-ID: Hi Richard, On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > I am trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 16.04 But cannot download an .iso or > upgrade but PC tells me I Have no room. Attached are the partitions of my > two drives. Can you see anything that would cause this. In think I have lots > of space. I also have a 75GB Drive If it would help I could send it also. > Thanks for any help Without telling where to you want to download the iso, this is just guessing, I presume it's the ext3 volume on sda2? That is indeed too full to contain more data, you might want to clean it up, or use another target drive. Keep in mind that a download uses extra space during the download, so the free space should be at least double of the size you want to download. Hope this helps Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From myriam at kde.org Sun Mar 27 19:49:50 2016 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:49:50 +0200 Subject: Will not complete login after update In-Reply-To: <56F7F73B.8010303@att.net> References: <56F7F73B.8010303@att.net> Message-ID: Hi Richard, On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > I always do the daily updates in Kubuntu 15.10. When I did the update it > called for several days go (60 files as 17 are security) I rebooted and now > it will only go as the screen that reads "Kubuntu 15.10" and then goes to a > blank screen. Can I undo that update or is there a way to correct this? Can you open a shell with Ctrl+Alt+F1? Then log in that shell and try to see if the update has finished correctly: sudo apt-get upgrade -f should yield enough information to get you started. Hope this helps Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From reb68 at att.net Sun Mar 27 20:04:59 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:04:59 -0400 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> Message-ID: <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Richard Barmann wrote: >> I am trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 16.04 But cannot download an .iso >> or upgrade but PC tells me I Have no room. Attached are the >> partitions of my two drives. Can you see anything that would cause >> this. > I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If that > is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some files to > another partition. Or you could try to make some space by removing old > kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" in a terminal > (konsole). > > The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new > packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages are > downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that directory a > symbolic link to a directory on another partition with sufficient space, > it could also work. > > > Nils > > I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as well s the 23 GB partition. The 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. The archives in the 23 GB partiion is full of files. Can I delete the Linux Headers Generic and Linux Image Generic? They go back to 4.2.0.32.35. What is the kernal we are in now? Why do I have two root systems? The sdb5 on my other hard drive (which I am sending now because of the 40KB limit.) has the root system that has the empty archives. I will run the clean and wait for your reply on the old kernels. Than you very much. Dick Barmann From reb68 at att.net Sun Mar 27 20:10:45 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:10:45 -0400 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> Message-ID: <56F83E45.3070709@att.net> On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Richard Barmann wrote: >> I am trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 16.04 But cannot download an .iso >> or upgrade but PC tells me I Have no room. Attached are the >> partitions of my two drives. Can you see anything that would cause >> this. > I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If that > is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some files to > another partition. Or you could try to make some space by removing old > kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" in a terminal > (konsole). > > The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new > packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages are > downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that directory a > symbolic link to a directory on another partition with sufficient space, > it could also work. > > > Nils > > Here is the other drive -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If that >> is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some files to >> another partition. Or you could try to make some space by removing old >> kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" in a terminal >> (konsole). >> >> The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new >> packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages are >> downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that directory a >> symbolic link to a directory on another partition with sufficient space, >> it could also work. >> >> >> Nils >> >> I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as >> well s the 23 GB partition. The > 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. The archives in the 23 GB > partiion > is full of files. Can I delete the Linux Headers Generic and Linux > Image Generic? They go back > to 4.2.0.32.35. What is the kernal we are in now? Why do I have two root > systems? The sdb5 on my other hard > drive (which I am sending now because of the 40KB limit.) has the root > system that has the empty archives. I > will run the clean and wait for your reply on the old kernels. Than you > very much. > Dick Barmann > -- Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und ausschließlich für die oben aufgeführten Empfänger bestimmt. Sollten Sie diese Nachricht irrtümlich erhalten haben, löschen Sie diese bitte. Für zukünftige Mailwechsel wäre eine Verschlüsselung der Mails sinnvoll, dafür befindet sich im Anhang der Mail mein öffentlicher Schlüssel. Sollten Sie Fragen haben, können Sie sich an mich wenden. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Thomas Rahimi thomas.rahimi at vmail.me -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0xBCB19EA0.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 3129 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That is indeed too > full to contain more data, you might want to clean it up, or use > another target drive. Keep in mind that a download uses extra space > during the download, so the free space should be at least double of > the size you want to download. > > Hope this helps > > Regards, Myriam I am just trying to download in a download file. as I said to Nils I have two root files (one on each drive. The one on the 75GB drive is empty when I go to the archives he mentioned. I would like to clean it up but do not know what I can safely delete. From kassube at gmx.net Sun Mar 27 21:13:02 2016 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 23:13:02 +0200 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> Message-ID: <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> Richard Barmann wrote: > On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If > > that is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some > > files to another partition. Or you could try to make some space by > > removing old kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" > > in a terminal (konsole). > > > > The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new > > packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages > > are downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that > > directory a symbolic link to a directory on another partition with > > sufficient space, it could also work. > I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as > well s the 23 GB partition. The > 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. It seems I guessed wrong because according to your second picture it looks like your "/" partition is somewhere on sdb. Unfortunately your pictures are hardly readable, so I don't know exactly which partition it is, but it seems to be a 8.3 Gib partition which has about 1 Gib of free space. But that doesn't really look much better than the 1/2 Gib space on sda2. > The archives in the 23 GB > partiion is full of files. Can I delete the Linux Headers Generic > and Linux Image Generic? They go back > to 4.2.0.32.35. What is the kernal we are in now? If you run the command "sudo apt-get clean" it will remove all the files in "/var/cache/apt/archives". Those packages are no longer needed because they are already installed. But you could also uninstall old kernels. You only need to keep the current kernel. You can find out which is the current kernel with the command uname -r in a terminal. > Why do I have two root systems? I don't know - maybe you installed Kubuntu twice. Nils From myriam at kde.org Sun Mar 27 22:02:41 2016 From: myriam at kde.org (Myriam Schweingruber) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 00:02:41 +0200 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >> > I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If >> > that is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some >> > files to another partition. Or you could try to make some space by >> > removing old kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" >> > in a terminal (konsole). >> > >> > The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new >> > packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages >> > are downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that >> > directory a symbolic link to a directory on another partition with >> > sufficient space, it could also work. > >> I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as >> well s the 23 GB partition. The >> 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. > > It seems I guessed wrong because according to your second picture it > looks like your "/" partition is somewhere on sdb. Unfortunately your > pictures are hardly readable, so I don't know exactly which partition it > is, but it seems to be a 8.3 Gib partition which has about 1 Gib of free > space. But that doesn't really look much better than the 1/2 Gib space > on sda2. Richard: instead of pictures that lack some information, why not post the text output you get when running this command: df -h That tells us the mount points and everything else that is needed to help you Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE: http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300) From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Sun Mar 27 22:05:17 2016 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:05:17 -0400 Subject: Will not complete login after update In-Reply-To: <56F7F73B.8010303@att.net> References: <56F7F73B.8010303@att.net> Message-ID: <6320781.p7rmUuVIQ8@kirk> > I always do the daily updates in Kubuntu 15.10. When I did the update it > called for several days go (60 files as 17 are security) I rebooted and > now it will only go as the screen that reads "Kubuntu 15.10" and then > goes to a blank screen. Can I undo that update or is there a way to > correct this? > > Thank you in advance for any help.. > Dick Barmann > It might be your graphics driver. When booting choose the recovery option in the grub menu. If you usually don't see it then keep the shift key pressed when you turn on the computer to show it. Then enable networking and drop to a root shell. you can then follow Myriam's suggestion. But remember you are already root and you NEVER use the 'sudo' command as root. Had this same problem with the 16.04 beta and that was how I fixed it. Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reb68 at att.net Sun Mar 27 22:49:16 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:49:16 -0400 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> Message-ID: <56F8636C.6090603@att.net> On 03/27/2016 06:02 PM, Myriam Schweingruber wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Richard Barmann wrote: >>> On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If >>>> that is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some >>>> files to another partition. Or you could try to make some space by >>>> removing old kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" >>>> in a terminal (konsole). >>>> >>>> The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new >>>> packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages >>>> are downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that >>>> directory a symbolic link to a directory on another partition with >>>> sufficient space, it could also work. >>> I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as >>> well s the 23 GB partition. The >>> 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. >> It seems I guessed wrong because according to your second picture it >> looks like your "/" partition is somewhere on sdb. Unfortunately your >> pictures are hardly readable, so I don't know exactly which partition it >> is, but it seems to be a 8.3 Gib partition which has about 1 Gib of free >> space. But that doesn't really look much better than the 1/2 Gib space >> on sda2. > Richard: instead of pictures that lack some information, why not post > the text output you get when running this command: > > df -h > > That tells us the mount points and everything else that is needed to help you > > Regards, Myriam ick at dick-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev 992M 0 992M 0% /dev tmpfs 202M 5.3M 197M 3% /run /dev/sda2 21G 20G 146M 100% / tmpfs 1008M 152K 1007M 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock tmpfs 1008M 0 1008M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 202M 20K 202M 1% /run/user/1000 dick at dick-desktop:~$ I have the Kubuntu back and working. Thank you. Now I would like to know how to change the target to the other unused root or can I delete everything in the archives? Thanks again From reb68 at att.net Mon Mar 28 02:16:32 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:16:32 -0400 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> Message-ID: <56F89400.1050700@att.net> On 03/27/2016 05:13 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If >>> that is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some >>> files to another partition. Or you could try to make some space by >>> removing old kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" >>> in a terminal (konsole). >>> >>> The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new >>> packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages >>> are downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that >>> directory a symbolic link to a directory on another partition with >>> sufficient space, it could also work. >> I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as >> well s the 23 GB partition. The >> 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. > It seems I guessed wrong because according to your second picture it > looks like your "/" partition is somewhere on sdb. Unfortunately your > pictures are hardly readable, so I don't know exactly which partition it > is, but it seems to be a 8.3 Gib partition which has about 1 Gib of free > space. But that doesn't really look much better than the 1/2 Gib space > on sda2. > >> The archives in the 23 GB >> partiion is full of files. Can I delete the Linux Headers Generic >> and Linux Image Generic? They go back >> to 4.2.0.32.35. What is the kernal we are in now? > If you run the command "sudo apt-get clean" it will remove all the files > in "/var/cache/apt/archives". Those packages are no longer needed > because they are already installed. But you could also uninstall old > kernels. You only need to keep the current kernel. You can find out > which is the current kernel with the command > > uname -r > > in a terminal. > >> Why do I have two root systems? > I don't know - maybe you installed Kubuntu twice. > > > Nils > > > Yes, I have Kubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 15.10. Iinstalled 15.10 and did not know how to delete the 15.04. Thank you for the help. I really appreciate it. I will be 84 in May and maybe someday I will be able to help someone. Dick Barmann (I grew up in Barmann's Bar in Milwaukee) From reb68 at att.net Mon Mar 28 02:56:48 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:56:48 -0400 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <56F89400.1050700@att.net> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> <56F89400.1050700@att.net> Message-ID: <56F89D70.8080001@att.net> On 03/27/2016 10:16 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > > On 03/27/2016 05:13 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >> Richard Barmann wrote: >>> On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>> I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If >>>> that is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some >>>> files to another partition. Or you could try to make some space by >>>> removing old kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" >>>> in a terminal (konsole). >>>> >>>> The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new >>>> packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages >>>> are downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that >>>> directory a symbolic link to a directory on another partition with >>>> sufficient space, it could also work. >>> I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as >>> well s the 23 GB partition. The >>> 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. >> It seems I guessed wrong because according to your second picture it >> looks like your "/" partition is somewhere on sdb. Unfortunately your >> pictures are hardly readable, so I don't know exactly which partition it >> is, but it seems to be a 8.3 Gib partition which has about 1 Gib of free >> space. But that doesn't really look much better than the 1/2 Gib space >> on sda2. >> >>> The archives in the 23 GB >>> partiion is full of files. Can I delete the Linux Headers Generic >>> and Linux Image Generic? They go back >>> to 4.2.0.32.35. What is the kernal we are in now? >> If you run the command "sudo apt-get clean" it will remove all the files >> in "/var/cache/apt/archives". Those packages are no longer needed >> because they are already installed. But you could also uninstall old >> kernels. You only need to keep the current kernel. You can find out >> which is the current kernel with the command >> >> uname -r >> >> in a terminal. >> >>> Why do I have two root systems? >> I don't know - maybe you installed Kubuntu twice. >> >> >> Nils >> >> >> Yes, I have Kubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 15.10. >> Iinstalled 15.10 and did not know how to delete > the 15.04. > Thank you for the help. I really appreciate it. I will be 84 in May > and maybe someday I will be able to help someone. > Dick Barmann (I grew up in Barmann's Bar in Milwaukee) > What is the safest way to remove the Kubuntu 15.04 without losing my > saved files. Dick Barmann From reb68 at att.net Mon Mar 28 02:59:59 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 22:59:59 -0400 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <56F89D70.8080001@att.net> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <4756249.5Kom5iUgm3@p5915> <56F83CEB.7000503@att.net> <1490833.ISnypCm5Yx@p5915> <56F89400.1050700@att.net> <56F89D70.8080001@att.net> Message-ID: <56F89E2F.6000709@att.net> On 03/27/2016 10:56 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > > On 03/27/2016 10:16 PM, Richard Barmann wrote: >> >> >> On 03/27/2016 05:13 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> Richard Barmann wrote: >>>> On 03/27/2016 03:17 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>>>> I think your partition sda2 only has about 1/2 GiB free space. If >>>>> that is the partition for "/", then you should try to move some >>>>> files to another partition. Or you could try to make some space by >>>>> removing old kernels and also run the command "sudo apt-get clean" >>>>> in a terminal (konsole). >>>>> >>>>> The partition for "/" is used during the upgrade to download the new >>>>> packages, and that needs a lot of free space. Actually the packages >>>>> are downloaded to "/var/cache/apt/archives", so if you make that >>>>> directory a symbolic link to a directory on another partition with >>>>> sufficient space, it could also work. >>>> I have the root system with "var" in it in the 11 GB partution as >>>> well s the 23 GB partition. The >>>> 11 GB partition shows archives as empty. >>> It seems I guessed wrong because according to your second picture it >>> looks like your "/" partition is somewhere on sdb. Unfortunately your >>> pictures are hardly readable, so I don't know exactly which >>> partition it >>> is, but it seems to be a 8.3 Gib partition which has about 1 Gib of >>> free >>> space. But that doesn't really look much better than the 1/2 Gib space >>> on sda2. >>> >>>> The archives in the 23 GB >>>> partiion is full of files. Can I delete the Linux Headers Generic >>>> and Linux Image Generic? They go back >>>> to 4.2.0.32.35. What is the kernal we are in now? >>> If you run the command "sudo apt-get clean" it will remove all the >>> files >>> in "/var/cache/apt/archives". Those packages are no longer needed >>> because they are already installed. But you could also uninstall old >>> kernels. You only need to keep the current kernel. You can find out >>> which is the current kernel with the command >>> >>> uname -r >>> >>> in a terminal. >>> >>>> Why do I have two root systems? >>> I don't know - maybe you installed Kubuntu twice. >>> >>> >>> Nils >>> >>> >>> Yes, I have Kubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 15.10. >>> Iinstalled 15.10 and did not know how to delete >> the 15.04. >> Thank you for the help. I really appreciate it. I will be 84 in May >> and maybe someday I will be able to help someone. >> Dick Barmann (I grew up in Barmann's Bar in Milwaukee) >> What is the safest way to remove the Kubuntu 15.04 without losing my >> saved files. I also have Microsoft XP but I would like to get rid of it also. > Dick Barmann > > From kassube at gmx.net Mon Mar 28 06:21:22 2016 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:21:22 +0200 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <56F8636C.6090603@att.net> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <56F8636C.6090603@att.net> Message-ID: <1784876.Cc6r6mNgRs@p5915> Richard Barmann wrote: > ick at dick-desktop:~$ df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > udev 992M 0 992M 0% /dev > tmpfs 202M 5.3M 197M 3% /run > /dev/sda2 21G 20G 146M 100% / > tmpfs 1008M 152K 1007M 1% /dev/shm > tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock > tmpfs 1008M 0 1008M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup > tmpfs 202M 20K 202M 1% /run/user/1000 > dick at dick-desktop:~$ > > I have the Kubuntu back and working. Thank you. > Now I would like to know how to change the target to the other unused > root or can I delete everything in the archives? So this is the 15.10 system you want to upgrade? There is even less space than I read from your first picture. So first you have to get rid of a lot of unneeded files. Like I wrote before, I would suggest to run sudo apt-get clean which removes all the obsolete files in "/var/cache/apt/archives". Also delete all kernels except the one you are using now. If you need assitance for that, please post the output of these commands: uname -r dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image Someone else also suggested to run sudo apt-get autoremove which may uninstall some more unneeded packages. Please let us know how much space you have after that - maybe it is already sufficient. Nils From kassube at gmx.net Mon Mar 28 06:04:50 2016 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:04:50 +0200 Subject: Trying to Upgarde but PC says I have little Space In-Reply-To: <56F89E2F.6000709@att.net> References: <56F82886.3080007@att.net> <56F89D70.8080001@att.net> <56F89E2F.6000709@att.net> Message-ID: <4534763.okP0rt3ivu@p5915> Richard Barmann wrote: > >>> Yes, I have Kubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 15.04 and Ubuntu 15.10. > >>> Iinstalled 15.10 and did not know how to delete > >> the 15.04. OK, that explains where the second system comes from. > >> What is the safest way to remove the Kubuntu 15.04 without losing > >> my > >> saved files. I also have Microsoft XP but I would like > to get rid of it also. I would suggest to first mount the partition you want to get rid of somewhere, e.g. at "/mnt". Then move your important files to a safe location, like your home directory. After that you can delete the remaining data from the unwanted partition. Finally you should run the command sudo update-grub to remove the other systems from the boot menu. Nils From reb68 at att.net Mon Mar 28 13:14:51 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 09:14:51 -0400 Subject: Could Not Start KDEini5 Message-ID: <56F92E4B.5030104@att.net> I finally got the Kubuntu 15.10 working, Thanks to this forum. I did my upgrade to 16.04 and when restarting I get the message. "Cannot Start kdeini5. Check you installation" How do I proceed. Dick Barmann From reb68 at att.net Mon Mar 28 16:45:58 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:45:58 -0400 Subject: Could Not Start KDEinit5 (was Could Not Start KDEini5) In-Reply-To: <56F92E4B.5030104@att.net> References: <56F92E4B.5030104@att.net> Message-ID: <56F95FC6.9080803@att.net> On 03/28/2016 09:14 AM, Richard Barmann wrote: > I finally got the Kubuntu 15.10 working, Thanks to this forum. I did > my upgrade to 16.04 and when restarting I get the message. > "Cannot Start kdeinit5. Check you installation" How do I proceed. > Dick Barmann > Should have been kdeinit5 not kedini5. Sorry about that. From kassube at gmx.net Wed Mar 30 09:54:28 2016 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:54:28 +0200 Subject: Could Not Start KDEinit5 (was Could Not Start KDEini5) In-Reply-To: <56F95FC6.9080803@att.net> References: <56F92E4B.5030104@att.net> <56F95FC6.9080803@att.net> Message-ID: <4632735.pDQk85xePd@p5915> Richard Barmann wrote: > On 03/28/2016 09:14 AM, Richard Barmann wrote: > > I finally got the Kubuntu 15.10 working, Thanks to this forum. I > > did > > my upgrade to 16.04 and when restarting I get the message. > > "Cannot Start kdeinit5. Check you installation" How do I proceed. > > Dick Barmann > > Should have been kdeinit5 not kedini5. Sorry about that. It seems like nobody has an idea so far. As I don't know that message myself, can you clarify where you see that message? Anyway, it may help, if you login to the text screen (use CTRL-F1) and then enter these commands: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade After all version 16.04 is still in development and there are frequent changes. The commands above would fetch the latest corrections and maybe that clears the problem for you. Nils From reb at barmannsbar.com Wed Mar 30 14:34:59 2016 From: reb at barmannsbar.com (Richard Barmann) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:34:59 -0400 Subject: Could Not Start KDEinit5 (was Could Not Start KDEini5) In-Reply-To: <4632735.pDQk85xePd@p5915> References: <56F92E4B.5030104@att.net> <56F95FC6.9080803@att.net> <4632735.pDQk85xePd@p5915> Message-ID: <56FBE413.9060305@barmannsbar.com> On 03/30/2016 05:54 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 03/28/2016 09:14 AM, Richard Barmann wrote: >>> I finally got the Kubuntu 15.10 working, Thanks to this forum. I >>> did >>> my upgrade to 16.04 and when restarting I get the message. >>> "Cannot Start kdeinit5. Check you installation" How do I proceed. >>> Dick Barmann >>> Should have been kdeinit5 not kedini5. Sorry about that. > It seems like nobody has an idea so far. As I don't know that message > myself, can you clarify where you see that message? > > Anyway, it may help, if you login to the text screen (use CTRL-F1) and > then enter these commands: > > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > After all version 16.04 is still in development and there are frequent > changes. The commands above would fetch the latest corrections and maybe > that clears the problem for you. > > > Nils > I did the update and upgrade that you suggested over the weekend. I went back over the previous Emails from the forum and found them. Now in Grub I have a Ubuntu that opens Kubuntu 16.04 that works great. Then two lines that read "memory". Then one line that reads 15.04 but it opens a Ubuntu that is all mixed up. It shows folders that will not open and a border of a page below it that will not do anythinng. Then a line that reads 15.10 and opens a working Ubuntu 15.10. then a line that also opens Ubuntu 15.10. I deleted the windows XP that was never used. Now I need to delete the 15.04 that does not work and I will have Ubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 16.04. What is the best way to delete the non-working 15.04 without changing anything else. I still have all my data in Kubuntu and Ubuntu. All the above is what my GRUB shows at this time. Dick Barmann Thanks for all the help. > From reb at barmannsbar.com Thu Mar 31 15:41:37 2016 From: reb at barmannsbar.com (Richard Barmann) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:41:37 -0400 Subject: Instead of Firefox Message-ID: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> Is there another Browser that you would recommend to use instead of Firefox. Firefox seems to have a lot of problems lately. When I open it I aways get Oops Firefox did this or that. Please restore. Thank You. From jasper at jbacker.nl Thu Mar 31 15:44:22 2016 From: jasper at jbacker.nl (Jasper Backer) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:44:22 +0200 Subject: Instead of Firefox In-Reply-To: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> References: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> Message-ID: <56FD45D6.3020208@jbacker.nl> Many choices there. Chromium/Chrome for example? Greets, Jasper On 31-03-16 17:41, Richard Barmann wrote: > Is there another Browser that you would recommend to use instead of > Firefox. > Firefox seems to have a lot of problems lately. When I open it I > aways get Oops > Firefox did this or that. Please restore. > Thank You. > From busman7797 at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 15:45:20 2016 From: busman7797 at gmail.com (Lee Thompson) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:45:20 -0500 Subject: Instead of Firefox In-Reply-To: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> References: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> Message-ID: That's a great question. Firefox is very heavy and uses a lot of resources. Also, I need one that will filter the web like the add on foxfilter. On Mar 31, 2016 10:43 AM, "Richard Barmann" wrote: > Is there another Browser that you would recommend to use instead of > Firefox. > Firefox seems to have a lot of problems lately. When I open it I aways > get Oops > Firefox did this or that. Please restore. > Thank You. > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From buzzmandt at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 15:46:55 2016 From: buzzmandt at gmail.com (Dale Trombley) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 11:46:55 -0400 Subject: Instead of Firefox In-Reply-To: <56FD45D6.3020208@jbacker.nl> References: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> <56FD45D6.3020208@jbacker.nl> Message-ID: We have 5 Kubuntu machines in our house, we all use Google chrome and haven't had any issue in years. Go chromium if you want Foss option On Mar 31, 2016 11:45 AM, "Jasper Backer" wrote: > Many choices there. Chromium/Chrome for example? > > Greets, > Jasper > > On 31-03-16 17:41, Richard Barmann wrote: > >> Is there another Browser that you would recommend to use instead of >> Firefox. >> Firefox seems to have a lot of problems lately. When I open it I aways >> get Oops >> Firefox did this or that. Please restore. >> Thank You. >> >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rpc at bewitching.me Thu Mar 31 17:36:28 2016 From: rpc at bewitching.me (Robert Charbonneau) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 13:36:28 -0400 Subject: Instead of Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> <56FD45D6.3020208@jbacker.nl> Message-ID: <56FD601C.40301@gmail.com> I use Kubuntu for web/software development and I run Firefox (Mozilla Build), Chrome, Rekonq (as a documentation browser while working), Opera and I still use Konqueror from time to time. Firefox and Chrome will both consume plenty of resources, one will not be too much lighter in that regard. On 2016-03-31 11:46 AM, Dale Trombley wrote: > > We have 5 Kubuntu machines in our house, we all use Google chrome and > haven't had any issue in years. Go chromium if you want Foss option > > On Mar 31, 2016 11:45 AM, "Jasper Backer" > wrote: > > Many choices there. Chromium/Chrome for example? > > Greets, > Jasper > > On 31-03-16 17:41, Richard Barmann wrote: > > Is there another Browser that you would recommend to use > instead of Firefox. > Firefox seems to have a lot of problems lately. When I open > it I aways get Oops > Firefox did this or that. Please restore. > Thank You. > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jl.ffm at gmx.net Thu Mar 31 18:01:45 2016 From: jl.ffm at gmx.net (J. L.) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 20:01:45 +0200 Subject: Instead of Firefox In-Reply-To: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> References: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> Message-ID: <56FD6609.5090704@gmx.net> On 31.03.2016 17:41, Richard Barmann wrote: > Is there another Browser that you would recommend to use instead of > Firefox. > Firefox seems to have a lot of problems lately. When I open it I aways > get Oops > Firefox did this or that. Please restore. > Thank You My recommendations: Pale Moon (Fork of Firefox) http://linux.palemoon.org/ SeaMonkey (Mozilla's combined browser-mail-client-suite) http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Qupzilla (FOSS based on Qt-engine) http://www.qupzilla.org/download Iron (FOSS based on Chromium) http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8870 Vivaldi (FOSS based on Chromium; "successor" to _Presto_-Opera) https://vivaldi.com/ Lots of fun! Greets! J. L. From kassube at gmx.net Thu Mar 31 19:02:24 2016 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:02:24 +0200 Subject: Could Not Start KDEinit5 (was Could Not Start KDEini5) In-Reply-To: <56FBE413.9060305@barmannsbar.com> References: <56F92E4B.5030104@att.net> <4632735.pDQk85xePd@p5915> <56FBE413.9060305@barmannsbar.com> Message-ID: <2123160.15jtA6ctQ8@p5915> Richard Barmann wrote: > On 03/30/2016 05:54 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > > sudo apt-get update > > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > I did the update and upgrade that you suggested over the weekend. I > > went back over the previous Emails from the forum and found them. > > Now in Grub I have a Ubuntu that opens Kubuntu 16.04 that works > > great. OK, so the error message mentioned in the subject is gone? > > Then two lines that read "memory". Then one line that reads > > 15.04 but it opens a Ubuntu that is all mixed up. It shows folders > > that will not open and a border of a page below it that will not do > > anythinng. Then a line that reads 15.10 and opens a working Ubuntu > > 15.10. then a line that also opens Ubuntu 15.10. I deleted the > > windows XP that was never used. Now I need to delete the 15.04 that > > does not work and I will have Ubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 16.04. What > > is the best way to delete the non-working 15.04 without changing > > anything else. I still have all my data in Kubuntu and Ubuntu. So there are no valuable data left on the 15.04 partition? Then you could just remove the partition or format it. It is the same procedure like you removed XP. And don't forget to run the command sudo update-grub after removing 15.04, otherwise it will still appear in the grub menu. Nils From reb68 at att.net Thu Mar 31 19:08:21 2016 From: reb68 at att.net (Richard Barmann) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:08:21 -0400 Subject: Could Not Start KDEinit5 (was Could Not Start KDEini5) In-Reply-To: <2123160.15jtA6ctQ8@p5915> References: <56F92E4B.5030104@att.net> <4632735.pDQk85xePd@p5915> <56FBE413.9060305@barmannsbar.com> <2123160.15jtA6ctQ8@p5915> Message-ID: <56FD75A5.2090200@att.net> On 03/31/2016 03:02 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Richard Barmann wrote: >> On 03/30/2016 05:54 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: >>> sudo apt-get update >>> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade >>> I did the update and upgrade that you suggested over the weekend. I >>> went back over the previous Emails from the forum and found them. >>> Now in Grub I have a Ubuntu that opens Kubuntu 16.04 that works >>> great. > OK, so the error message mentioned in the subject is gone? > Yes it is gone >>> Then two lines that read "memory". Then one line that reads >>> 15.04 but it opens a Ubuntu that is all mixed up. It shows folders >>> that will not open and a border of a page below it that will not do >>> anythinng. Then a line that reads 15.10 and opens a working Ubuntu >>> 15.10. then a line that also opens Ubuntu 15.10. I deleted the >>> windows XP that was never used. Now I need to delete the 15.04 that >>> does not work and I will have Ubuntu 15.10 and Kubuntu 16.04. What >>> is the best way to delete the non-working 15.04 without changing >>> anything else. I still have all my data in Kubuntu and Ubuntu. > So there are no valuable data left on the 15.04 partition? Then you > could just remove the partition or format it. It is the same procedure > like you removed XP. And don't forget to run the command > > sudo update-grub > > after removing 15.04, otherwise it will still appear in the grub menu. > > > Nils > > From grokit at ajinfosearch.com Thu Mar 31 21:58:13 2016 From: grokit at ajinfosearch.com (Alan Dacey (grokit)) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:58:13 -0400 Subject: Instead of Firefox In-Reply-To: <56FD6609.5090704@gmx.net> References: <56FD4531.1050806@barmannsbar.com> <56FD6609.5090704@gmx.net> Message-ID: <14753506.eGmQjbVGQp@kirk> Dang JL! You beat me to it. Qupzilla runs real well but the bookmarking could use some attention. It has adblock built in but that's about it. Vivaldi is looking to be a pretty good browser. I haven't used it too much yet but it's speedy. Chrome is what I use to watch Netflix. On Thursday, March 31, 2016 8:01:45 PM J. L. wrote: > On 31.03.2016 17:41, Richard Barmann wrote: > > Is there another Browser that you would recommend to use instead of > > Firefox. > > Firefox seems to have a lot of problems lately. When I open it I aways > > get Oops > > Firefox did this or that. Please restore. > > Thank You > > My recommendations: > > Pale Moon (Fork of Firefox) > http://linux.palemoon.org/ > > SeaMonkey (Mozilla's combined browser-mail-client-suite) > http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ > > Qupzilla (FOSS based on Qt-engine) > http://www.qupzilla.org/download > > Iron (FOSS based on Chromium) > http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8870 > > Vivaldi (FOSS based on Chromium; "successor" to _Presto_-Opera) > https://vivaldi.com/ > > Lots of fun! > > Greets! > > J. L. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: