From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Sun Oct 1 20:45:39 2017 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 16:45:39 -0400 Subject: 17.10 network changes Message-ID: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> Does anyone have a clue as to what changes were made to network setup in Artful??   I've been using static IP addresses within my network for years but now the system seems to be ignoring anything in the /etc/network/interfaces  file.   And networking.service  is gone which would be ok if everything else worked... All I can get is a DHCP address from within my network.  Been looking at documentation for any changes to networking but haven't found any yet. Any help would be appreciated.... From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Oct 1 23:06:55 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 16:06:55 -0700 Subject: 17.10 network changes In-Reply-To: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> References: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Hi Bruce, On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Does anyone have a clue as to what changes were made to network setup in > Artful?? I've been using static IP addresses within my network for years > but now the system seems to be ignoring anything in the > /etc/network/interfaces file. And networking.service is gone which would > be ok if everything else worked... > > All I can get is a DHCP address from within my network. Been looking at > documentation for any changes to networking but haven't found any yet. > > > Any help would be appreciated.... I've seen a few people complaining about this, but it seems a rare issue. There were some networking changes by the Ubuntu devels, so you should perhaps search Launchpad for bug reports and add your details there. Kubuntu doesn't handle networking beyond providing the Plasma widgets that display what's going on; that is all done at the systemd and networkmanager level, by the core Ubuntu developers. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Oct 2 00:27:32 2017 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bmarsh) Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2017 20:27:32 -0400 Subject: 17.10 network changes In-Reply-To: References: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Thanks... took a quick look but didn’t see anything that seemed like the problem. Will keep looking. From: Valorie Zimmerman To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Re: 17.10 network changes Date: 10/1/17, 7:06 PM Hi Bruce, On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Does anyone have a clue as to what changes were made to network setup in > Artful?? I've been using static IP addresses within my network for years > but now the system seems to be ignoring anything in the > /etc/network/interfaces file. And networking.service is gone which would > be ok if everything else worked... > > All I can get is a DHCP address from within my network. Been looking at > documentation for any changes to networking but haven't found any yet. > > > Any help would be appreciated.... I've seen a few people complaining about this, but it seems a rare issue. There were some networking changes by the Ubuntu devels, so you should perhaps search Launchpad for bug reports and add your details there. Kubuntu doesn't handle networking beyond providing the Plasma widgets that display what's going on; that is all done at the systemd and networkmanager level, by the core Ubuntu developers. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at hackbinary.com Mon Oct 2 17:14:36 2017 From: david at hackbinary.com (David) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 18:14:36 +0100 Subject: 17.10 network changes In-Reply-To: References: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: Hi, Two things to check: 1. What is the name of your network device? I had an update change the ethernet device name from eth0 to enp3s1 or some such nonsense that is supposed to give consistent naming even if I add in additional adapters into my laptop. You can grep through dmesg to find out. Or you can find the name out when you ip addr . 2. Is network maanger running? You can force network maanger to use the interraces file. The debian site tells you how. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager 3. Okay, I lied there is a third point. Have a looked through your syslog to find out what's happening? Good luck. Thsee things are frustrating. I had a similar problem getting network manager to work. The problem was a certain zero byte file was missing. David On 2 Oct 2017 01:27, "Bmarsh" wrote: Thanks... took a quick look but didn’t see anything that seemed like the problem. Will keep looking. *From: * Valorie Zimmerman *To: * Kubuntu user technical support *Subject: * Re: 17.10 network changes *Date: * 10/1/17, 7:06 PM Hi Bruce, On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Does anyone have a clue as to what changes were made to network setup in > Artful?? I've been using static IP addresses within my network for years > but now the system seems to be ignoring anything in the > /etc/network/interfaces file. And networking.service is gone which would > be ok if everything else worked... > > All I can get is a DHCP address from within my network. Been looking at > documentation for any changes to networking but haven't found any yet. > > > Any help would be appreciated.... I've seen a few people complaining about this, but it seems a rare issue. There were some networking changes by the Ubuntu devels, so you should perhaps search Launchpad for bug reports and add your details there. Kubuntu doesn't handle networking beyond providing the Plasma widgets that display what's going on; that is all done at the systemd and networkmanager level, by the core Ubuntu developers. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Oct 2 17:39:55 2017 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bmarsh) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 13:39:55 -0400 Subject: 17.10 network changes In-Reply-To: References: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: From: David To: bmarsh at bmarsh.com, Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Re: 17.10 network changes Date: 10/2/17, 1:14 PM Hi, Two things to check: 1. What is the name of your network device? I had an update change the ethernet device name from eth0 to enp3s1 or some such nonsense that is supposed to give consistent naming even if I add in additional adapters into my laptop. You can grep through dmesg to find out. Or you can find the name out when you ip addr . Thanks for the reply. Name is enp3s0 and has been that since 16.10. And that name is picked up by dhcp but I can’t get a static address assigned like I could in 16.10 2. Is network maanger running? Yes, and I’ve played with starting and stopping it as well as a lot of other tricks. You can force network maanger to use the interraces file. The debian site tells you how. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager Will take a look at this. 3. Okay, I lied there is a third point. Have a looked through your syslog to find out what's happening? Using dmesg I see that enp3s0 is shown as up and down many times during startup... so maybe it is a timing problem. Will do some more looking at syslog. I WAS able to use ifconfig to assign the static address that is in the interfaces file and that works as a temp fix so it indicates everything is working except the use of the interfaces file. But this problem is a showstopper as far as I am concerned. Good luck. Thsee things are frustrating. I had a similar problem getting network manager to work. The problem was a certain zero byte file was missing. Hmmm. Want to tell what file that was? David On 2 Oct 2017 01:27, "Bmarsh" wrote: Thanks... took a quick look but didn’t see anything that seemed like the problem. Will keep looking. From: Valorie Zimmerman To: Kubuntu user technical support Subject: Re: 17.10 network changes Date: 10/1/17, 7:06 PM Hi Bruce, On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Does anyone have a clue as to what changes were made to network setup in > Artful?? I've been using static IP addresses within my network for years > but now the system seems to be ignoring anything in the > /etc/network/interfaces file. And networking.service is gone which would > be ok if everything else worked... > > All I can get is a DHCP address from within my network. Been looking at > documentation for any changes to networking but haven't found any yet. > > > Any help would be appreciated.... I've seen a few people complaining about this, but it seems a rare issue. There were some networking changes by the Ubuntu devels, so you should perhaps search Launchpad for bug reports and add your details there. Kubuntu doesn't handle networking beyond providing the Plasma widgets that display what's going on; that is all done at the systemd and networkmanager level, by the core Ubuntu developers. 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I found by comparing 2 installs, and I couldn't quite believe it when it fixed it. >From a quick Google, I think is this file, located under /etc... and /var.... 10-globally-managed-devices.conf https://askubuntu.com/questions/882806/ethernet-device-not-managed I'll have another look when I get home. On 2 Oct 2017 6:40 pm, "Bmarsh" wrote: *From: * David *To: * bmarsh at bmarsh.com, Kubuntu user technical support < kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> *Subject: * Re: 17.10 network changes *Date: * 10/2/17, 1:14 PM Hi, Two things to check: 1. What is the name of your network device? I had an update change the ethernet device name from eth0 to enp3s1 or some such nonsense that is supposed to give consistent naming even if I add in additional adapters into my laptop. You can grep through dmesg to find out. Or you can find the name out when you ip addr . Thanks for the reply. Name is enp3s0 and has been that since 16.10. And that name is picked up by dhcp but I can’t get a static address assigned like I could in 16.10 2. Is network maanger running? Yes, and I’ve played with starting and stopping it as well as a lot of other tricks. You can force network maanger to use the interraces file. The debian site tells you how. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager Will take a look at this. 3. Okay, I lied there is a third point. Have a looked through your syslog to find out what's happening? Using dmesg I see that enp3s0 is shown as up and down many times during startup... so maybe it is a timing problem. Will do some more looking at syslog. I WAS able to use ifconfig to assign the static address that is in the interfaces file and that works as a temp fix so it indicates everything is working except the use of the interfaces file. But this problem is a showstopper as far as I am concerned. Good luck. Thsee things are frustrating. I had a similar problem getting network manager to work. The problem was a certain zero byte file was missing. Hmmm. Want to tell what file that was? David On 2 Oct 2017 01:27, "Bmarsh" wrote: Thanks... took a quick look but didn’t see anything that seemed like the problem. Will keep looking. *From: * Valorie Zimmerman *To: * Kubuntu user technical support *Subject: * Re: 17.10 network changes *Date: * 10/1/17, 7:06 PM Hi Bruce, On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Marshall wrote: > Does anyone have a clue as to what changes were made to network setup in > Artful?? I've been using static IP addresses within my network for years > but now the system seems to be ignoring anything in the > /etc/network/interfaces file. And networking.service is gone which would > be ok if everything else worked... > > All I can get is a DHCP address from within my network. Been looking at > documentation for any changes to networking but haven't found any yet. > > > Any help would be appreciated.... I've seen a few people complaining about this, but it seems a rare issue. There were some networking changes by the Ubuntu devels, so you should perhaps search Launchpad for bug reports and add your details there. Kubuntu doesn't handle networking beyond providing the Plasma widgets that display what's going on; that is all done at the systemd and networkmanager level, by the core Ubuntu developers. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm an/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm an/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm an/listinfo/kubuntu-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at thefletchers.net Mon Oct 2 18:23:19 2017 From: dave at thefletchers.net (David Fletcher) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 19:23:19 +0100 Subject: 17.10 network changes In-Reply-To: References: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <1506968599.2109.8.camel@thefletchers.net> On Mon, 2017-10-02 at 18:14 +0100, David wrote: > 1. What is the name of your network device?  I had an update change > the ethernet device name from eth0 to enp3s1 or some such nonsense > that is supposed to give consistent naming even if I add in > additional adapters into my laptop.  You can grep through dmesg to > find out.  Or you can find the name out when you ip addr . A couple of years ago I did a fresh server install which says it is "Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS". I found at the time that the network device was no longer called eth1. I just "went with the flow" and edited the interfaces file thus:- # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto em1 #iface em1 inet dhcp #Changes to:- iface em1 inet static   address          192.168.2.2   netmask          255.255.255.0   network          192.168.2.0   broadcast        192.168.2.255   gateway          192.168.2.1   dns-nameservers  208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 192.168.2.1 8.8.8.8 For me these settings have been working ever since. I don't know know or care why eth1 has changed to em1, just that it works. Dave From bmarsh at bmarsh.com Mon Oct 2 19:06:24 2017 From: bmarsh at bmarsh.com (Bruce Marshall) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 15:06:24 -0400 Subject: 17.10 network changes In-Reply-To: References: <6ca05ac8-f577-e995-7d7a-38fb941d1273@bmarsh.com> Message-ID: <402bfc22-195d-f85f-31d3-2065c6a4dbbb@bmarsh.com> On 10/02/2017 01:14 PM, David wrote: > You can force network maanger to use the interraces file.  The debian > site tells you how. > https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager This fix works great....   and will do as a work-around...   The description says that NetworkManager doesn't handle the items in the 'interfaces' file...  any idea who does? (or is supposed to and isn't) From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Oct 3 01:44:37 2017 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 20:44:37 -0500 Subject: 17.04 Terminal Message-ID: <8030e9d4-3b35-8306-17f9-92f1e1394b40@swbell.net> I created some space on my laptops hard drive and installed 17.04. In 16.04 the graphics were a complete disaster. Running 17.04 from DVD seemed ok so.................... Anyway, I was using terminal to install something and it asks for password, goes through a lot of stuff, then tells me it will take x amount of space. Generally at this point I expect  something about continue. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Just sits there. Been sitting there better than an hour so far. Any ideas? By the way, this is an HP media laptop. AMD quad core. Eight gigs memory -- "The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of many things: Of shoes-and ships-and sealing-wax- Of cabbages-and kings-- And why the sea is boiling hot- And whether pigs have wings." Lewis Carroll _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Tue Oct 3 06:23:51 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 23:23:51 -0700 Subject: 17.04 Terminal In-Reply-To: <8030e9d4-3b35-8306-17f9-92f1e1394b40@swbell.net> References: <8030e9d4-3b35-8306-17f9-92f1e1394b40@swbell.net> Message-ID: Billie, can you copy/paste from the terminal? Select and control + shift + c, then control + v to paste. In general, after the list of packages which will be upgraded and added is printed out, you have to respond "y" for yes. Valorie On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: > I created some space on my laptops hard drive and installed 17.04. In 16.04 > the graphics were a complete disaster. Running 17.04 from DVD seemed ok > so.................... > > Anyway, I was using terminal to install something and it asks for password, > goes through a lot of stuff, then tells me it will take x amount of space. > Generally at this point I expect something about continue. Nothing. Nada. > Zip. Just sits there. Been sitting there better than an hour so far. Any > ideas? > > By the way, this is an HP media laptop. AMD quad core. Eight gigs memory > > -- > "The time has come," the Walrus said, > "To talk of many things: > Of shoes-and ships-and sealing-wax- > Of cabbages-and kings-- > And why the sea is boiling hot- > And whether pigs have wings." > Lewis Carroll > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- http://about.me/valoriez From bilwalsh at swbell.net Tue Oct 3 10:49:17 2017 From: bilwalsh at swbell.net (Billie Walsh) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 05:49:17 -0500 Subject: Solved - Sort of - Re: 17.04 Terminal In-Reply-To: References: <8030e9d4-3b35-8306-17f9-92f1e1394b40@swbell.net> Message-ID: <04c60bfc-fea5-1a70-f61d-a63f4baee43d@swbell.net> It's on my laptop and this is my desktop. A new install and no e-mail set up yet. Everything looks quite normal up to the point it asks to continue. It looks at the repository for dependencies and determines how much extra space will be needed but never asks to continue. I finally shut down the terminal and tried the Software Center. Found what I was trying to install there and some updates. Tell it to install and then it also seems to lose all interest in doing anything. It asks for a password and then just sits there doing nothing I can see. Oops. 5:47AM - I see where it is downloading stuff but it appears its downloading, or attempting to, all the files at one time. Not sequentially. At this rate it could take days. I'm using a wired network connection so it's not a wifi issue. Networking shows a connection. From that point on I kind of assume it has access to the internet just like everything else on the network On 10/03/2017 01:23 AM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Billie, can you copy/paste from the terminal? Select and control + > shift + c, then control + v to paste. > > In general, after the list of packages which will be upgraded and > added is printed out, you have to respond "y" for yes. > > Valorie > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Billie Walsh wrote: >> I created some space on my laptops hard drive and installed 17.04. In 16.04 >> the graphics were a complete disaster. Running 17.04 from DVD seemed ok >> so.................... >> >> Anyway, I was using terminal to install something and it asks for password, >> goes through a lot of stuff, then tells me it will take x amount of space. >> Generally at this point I expect something about continue. Nothing. Nada. >> Zip. Just sits there. Been sitting there better than an hour so far. Any >> ideas? >> >> By the way, this is an HP media laptop. AMD quad core. Eight gigs memory >> >> -- >> "The time has come," the Walrus said, >> "To talk of many things: >> Of shoes-and ships-and sealing-wax- >> Of cabbages-and kings-- >> And why the sea is boiling hot- >> And whether pigs have wings." >> Lewis Carroll >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -- "The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of many things: Of shoes-and ships-and sealing-wax- Of cabbages-and kings-- And why the sea is boiling hot- And whether pigs have wings." Lewis Carroll _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ From rayburke30 at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 05:30:08 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 16:30:08 +1100 Subject: unable to install outstanding updates for my new K14.04 LTS Message-ID: Can anyone help- Upgraded K12.04 LTS to K14.04 LTS 5/10/2017... I checked my software&updates icon see attached and I clicked and other software and I noticed that some parameters were disabled on upgrade K12.04 to K14.04, so I tried a click in the box of “disabled on upgrade to TRUSTY trusty”, it then updated the cache and was able to install those two outstanding updates I send a copy of, then when I checked “history” thru Muon software centre it showed that Firefox 56.0 was installed, even thought I have f/f 51.1.0 locked?, should I also ticked the remaining disabled parameters that shows in the attached “software&updates” (which I can make available when asked? 6/10/2017............. I couldn't sleep last night thinking about what I had done, and not sure if I need to box tick those “disabled on upgrade to TRUSTY trusty”, as I realize that this happened the other day with the same two updates, not able to install, as I think when I closed FireFox 51.0.1, it then was able to install those two updates, but upgraded the F/F 51.0.1 to F/F 55.0. But F/F51.0.1 was still available as had it locked. So I decided to close F/F 51.0.1, and install those outstanding updates,which installed, but as said previous it updated to F/F 56.0, so to me it seems that the “libcgmanager0 and yelp.sxl are both part of installment with FireFox, Do think that is correct?\ And now should I untick that “disabled on upgrade to TRUSTY trusty” Do you know how to grid place my desktop Icons, or to be able to move them into positions that I want? Ray PS the 2 updates were libcgmaner0 28.8 kb and yelp-xsl 220.1 kb From rayburke30 at gmail.com Mon Oct 2 05:02:04 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 16:02:04 +1100 Subject: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04+k14.04 Message-ID: Nils thanks for that I will look into it, but at the moment I followed your instructions about the gtk3 and changed to default , in my Bkup k14.04 disk, and shows the tabs with listing about site in tab, so will use this at the moment until if find the correct answer, so again Thanks, also do you anything about ubuntu-tweak, which I have carried over from my k12.04 to k14.04 as wondering if I can use the computer janitor in this to remove the old Linux-pae, see attached? ray On 9/30/17, Nils Kassube wrote: > ray burke wrote: >> Nils in k14.04 dongle.. >> I read somewhere about changing the "about:config" in the address bar >> in Firefox and it can change >> the profiles but have no idea which one to change within this to >> rectify the problem, do you know? > > No, I'm not familiar with the possible changes in about:config, sorry. > If nobody else on this list has an answer, you could ask on the ubuntu- > users list [1], perheps there someone has an idea. After all firefox is > not a KDE application and is probably installed on most *ubuntu systems. > > > Nils > > [1] > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Computer janitor Tweak.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 201920 bytes Desc: not available URL: From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 22:59:09 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 15:59:09 -0700 Subject: Call for design: Artful Banner for Kubuntu.org website In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi folks, last chance to send in a banner. Personally, I really would like one somewhat like we have now, with the newer wallpaper blurred out some and no fancy lettering. This is not an art project but a window on our newest release. -v On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Published on Kubuntu.org: > https://kubuntu.org/news/call-for-design-artful-banner-for-kubuntu-org-website/ > > Kubuntu 17.10 — code-named Artful Aardvark — will be released on > October 19th, 2017. We need a new banner for the website, and invite > artists and designers to submit designs to us based on the Plasma > wallpaper [1] and perhaps the mascot design [2]. > > The banner is 1500×385 SVG. > > Please submit designs to the Kubuntu-devel mail list [3]. > > 1. https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.10.5.php > 2. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1717309 > 3. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > Please spread this information around on social media or to designers > and artists you know. > > Thanks, > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 00:04:46 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:04:46 -0700 Subject: Testing the RC Friday or Saturday through release day Message-ID: Hi folks, the release of Artful approaches on October 19th [1], next Thursday. Between now and Saturday [2] the Release Candidate ISOs will be spun. Please help us really test it, on "bare metal" - real computers - if possible. VM testing is better than nothing though! In particular, actual 32-bit machines would be very valuable to the viability of our i386 ISOs. Mainline Ubuntu is largely abandoning i386, so we're more on our own now with testing. There is a useful new resource to community testers: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458. If you can join the Ubuntu On-Air session that will add to the fun. Solo testing can be tedious, but in a group not so much! If you plan to test Kubuntu long-term, please join the team: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-release All the best, Valorie, Kubuntu release manager 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseSchedule 2. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-October/004221.html -- http://about.me/valoriez From ricktimmis68 at googlemail.com Fri Oct 13 23:08:33 2017 From: ricktimmis68 at googlemail.com (Rick Timmis) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 00:08:33 +0100 Subject: Minutes from 'Growing our Community, and Onboarding new people' meeting Message-ID: Attendees: Clivejo, Valoriez, acheronuk, sick_rimmit The council discussed the following *1 - How do we reach out to the community currently ?* ML, IRC, Ubuntu Forum, ( The Forums don't work well for Kubuntu, the community there can be rude. Not worth investing Social Media - need to recruit people who like it. Facebook page is pretty awful, folks ask support but no one responds. Google+, Twitter ????? This needs a dedicated socialmedia team - Quest - Social Mdeia research team, to invite group owners to a subsequent Cafe.. Telegram / Chat things - Valorie is testing Matrix along with the KDE - Purism Phone will be using Matrix. As Matrix is directly bridged to Freenode IRC, this makes it a very pursuavive tool -Council are encourage to experiment with this, and provide feedback. We concluded that rationalising our channels, and making the most effort to bring disparate groups into the primary channels is the way forward. Those channels are in order of preference. 1 - Mailing List 2 - IRC ( Internet Relay Chat ) 3 - Kubuntuforums.net Organise Website dedicated meeting, Gathering input from OnAir - Promote this as an community event far and wide, and then arrange a secondary meeting to discuss this input - Going to need a secreatary. -> RT Items to discuss - Matrix - webchat.freenode.net *2 - How do we attract new community members ?* We realised that addressing the points in 1, would reduce the number of channels and make it clearer and easier for newcomers to find the main heart of the Kubuntu community. Fostering the correct attitudes and approaches from the existing community by targetting the most positive channels we can find, also encourages and welcomes new members. *3 - How do we become sticky, so that new people want to stay with us ?* IRC users very often join the channel and then leave... the more people are around to answer questions, the easier and better it gets. New users struggle with IRC, and they very often don't know what it is used for. Onboarding - The contribute page should be central to this, so that when they arrive it appeals to them in the sense of "What sounds interesting to you ? " - Identifying Organisational Roles ( Web Author, Video Editor, Social Media Guru, Marketer, Administrator, Developer, Documentor, Reviewer, Tester, ) - These roles need to be quite narrow, and clearly defined. Work groups -: Developers, Administration, Marketing, Support, Community. *AOB - Nothing more to add* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valorie-zimmerman at kubuntu.org Fri Oct 13 23:37:20 2017 From: valorie-zimmerman at kubuntu.org (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:37:20 -0700 Subject: [Kubuntu-council] Minutes from 'Growing our Community, and Onboarding new people' meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Rick Timmis wrote: > Attendees: Clivejo, Valoriez, acheronuk, sick_rimmit > > The council discussed the following > > 1 - How do we reach out to the community currently ? > > ML, IRC, Ubuntu Forum, ( The Forums don't work well for Kubuntu, the > community there can be rude. Not worth investing But KubuntuForums DO, just to clarify. > Social Media - need to recruit people who like it. Facebook page is pretty > awful, folks ask support but no one responds. Google+, Twitter ????? > > This needs a dedicated socialmedia team - Quest - Social Mdeia research > team, to invite group owners to a subsequent Cafe.. > > Telegram / Chat things - Valorie is testing Matrix along with the KDE - > Purism Phone will be using Matrix. > > As Matrix is directly bridged to Freenode IRC, this makes it a very > pursuavive tool -Council are encourage to experiment with this, and provide > feedback. > > We concluded that rationalising our channels, and making the most effort to > bring disparate groups into the primary channels is the way forward. Those > channels are in order of preference. > > 1 - Mailing List > 2 - IRC ( Internet Relay Chat ) > 3 - Kubuntuforums.net > > Organise Website dedicated meeting, Gathering input from OnAir - Promote > this as an community event far and wide, and then arrange a secondary > meeting to discuss this input - Going to need a secreatary. -> RT > > Items to discuss - Matrix - webchat.freenode.net We also discussed getting a new line in every Help menu for all KDE applications: along with About $application and About KDE, add About $distribution with a link to our website > 2 - How do we attract new community members ? > > We realised that addressing the points in 1, would reduce the number of > channels and make it clearer and easier for newcomers to find the main heart > of the Kubuntu community. Fostering the correct attitudes and approaches > from the existing community by targetting the most positive channels we can > find, also encourages and welcomes new members. > > 3 - How do we become sticky, so that new people want to stay with us ? > > IRC users very often join the channel and then leave... the more people are > around to answer questions, the easier and better it gets. New users > struggle with IRC, and they very often don't know what it is used for. Telegram helps with that, and matrix might do as well. Web IRC users just close the tab when they don't get an answer within minutes. Also identifying roles that people could play in the community would help them stick. > Onboarding - The contribute page should be central to this, so that when > they arrive it appeals to them in the sense of "What sounds interesting to > you ? " - Identifying Organisational Roles ( Web Author, Video Editor, > Social Media Guru, Marketer, Administrator, Developer, Documentor, Reviewer, > Tester, ) - These roles need to be quite narrow, and clearly defined. Work > groups -: Developers, Administration, Marketing, Support, Community. > > AOB - Nothing more to add Thanks for calling and organizing the meeting, Rick! and then taking the notes. I think it was really productive. Valorie From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 02:55:26 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:55:26 -0700 Subject: First spin of 17.10 RC candidate now available Message-ID: Hello folks, the first Release Candidate ISO is ready. Please help us by testing as much as you have time for. Remember, in particular we need i386 testers, on "bare metal" rather than VMs if possible. Kubuntu Desktop amd64 - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds/158983/testcases Kubuntu Desktop i386 - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds/158984/testcases The story on the website: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-artful-aardvark-17-10-final-rc-images-now-available/ Please spread that on whatever social media you use. Take note of the Ubuntu Community ISO testing party on Monday: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 All the best, Valorie, for the Release Management team -- http://about.me/valoriez From rikmills at kubuntu.org Sun Oct 15 19:52:42 2017 From: rikmills at kubuntu.org (Rik Mills) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:52:42 +0100 Subject: [Kubuntu-council] First spin of 17.10 RC candidate now available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5c04f843-e180-9275-2b76-5db88239847f@kubuntu.org> I should just clarify on this that after those ISO spins, Adam Conrad from the release team wrote: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2017-October/004224.html On 15/10/17 06:40, Adam Conrad wrote: > Today, I spun up a set of images for everyone with serial 20171015. > > Those images are *not* final images (ISO volid and base-files are still > not set to their final values), intentionally, as we had some hiccups > with langpack uploads that are landing just now. > > That said, we need as much testing as possible, bugs reported (and, if > you can, fixed), so we can turn around and have slightly more final > images produced on Monday morning. If we get no testing, we get no > fixing, so no time like the present to go bug-hunting. > > ... Adam So please see the revised Kubuntu website story here: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-artful-aardvark-17-10-initial-rc-images-now-available/ So please look out for a new website article and iso links it that happens as expected. There will also be Ubuntu-on-air Google hangout and Youtube stream on iso testing on Monday 16th at 15:00 UTC See: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 That will be a great opportunity to help with community testing Thanks Rik On 15/10/17 03:55, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hello folks, the first Release Candidate ISO is ready. Please help us > by testing as much as you have time for. Remember, in particular we > need i386 testers, on "bare metal" rather than VMs if possible. > > Kubuntu Desktop amd64 - > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds/158983/testcases > > Kubuntu Desktop i386 - > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds/158984/testcases > > The story on the website: > https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-artful-aardvark-17-10-final-rc-images-now-available/ > > Please spread that on whatever social media you use. Take note of the > Ubuntu Community ISO testing party on Monday: > https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 > > All the best, > > Valorie, for the Release Management team > From rikmills at kubuntu.org Mon Oct 16 12:09:30 2017 From: rikmills at kubuntu.org (Rik Mills) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:09:30 +0100 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available Message-ID: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> Following on from yesterday's 1st spin of the 17.10 RC images by the ubuntu release team, today the RC images (marked Artful Final on the QA tracker) have been re-spun and updated. Please update your ISOs if you downloaded previous images, and test as before. Please help us by testing as much as you have time for. Remember, in particular we need i386 testers, on "bare metal" rather than VMs if possible. Builds are available from: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds the CD image to left of the ISO names being a link to take you to download urls/options. Please spread that on whatever social media you use. Take note of the Ubuntu Community ISO testing party on Monday: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 Please attend and participate if you are able. The #ubuntu-on-air IRC channel on irc.freenode.net can be joined via a web client found beneath the live stream on ubuntuonair.com, or of course you can join in a normal IRC client. Happy testing, Rik Mills Kubuntu Developer Kubuntu Release team From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 22:33:28 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 15:33:28 -0700 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: Hello folks -- please try some testing. If you already have the .1 version you have an up-to-date ISO RC image; if not, zsync it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage Please report all the bugs you find and link them to your report on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds Thanks! Valorie PS: i386 users -- please, please, please test! -v On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Rik Mills wrote: > Following on from yesterday's 1st spin of the 17.10 RC images by the > ubuntu release team, today the RC images (marked Artful Final on the QA > tracker) have been re-spun and updated. > > Please update your ISOs if you downloaded previous images, and test as > before. > > Please help us by testing as much as you have time for. Remember, in > particular we need i386 testers, on "bare metal" rather than VMs if > possible. > > Builds are available from: > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds > > the CD image to left of the ISO names being a link to take you to > download urls/options. > > Please spread that on whatever social media you use. > > Take note of the Ubuntu Community ISO testing party on Monday: > > https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 > > Please attend and participate if you are able. The #ubuntu-on-air IRC > channel on irc.freenode.net can be joined via a web client found > beneath the live stream on ubuntuonair.com, or of course you can join in > a normal IRC client. > > Happy testing, > > Rik Mills > > Kubuntu Developer > Kubuntu Release team > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- http://about.me/valoriez From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 03:27:17 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 14:27:17 +1100 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: Valorie Zimmerman 19/10/2017... I have just recently upgraded K12.04 lts to K14.04 lts, and all is running fine after some teething problems, as able to use both a dongle stick and dial-up. What I would like to know is can I download a k17.10 iso and do some testing to find if I like and maybe upgrade to it with a direct upgrade, and how big is it to download for an iso? Ray On 10/19/17, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hello folks -- please try some testing. If you already have the .1 > version you have an up-to-date ISO RC image; if not, zsync it. > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage > > Please report all the bugs you find and link them to your report on > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds > > Thanks! > > Valorie > > PS: i386 users -- please, please, please test! -v > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Rik Mills wrote: >> Following on from yesterday's 1st spin of the 17.10 RC images by the >> ubuntu release team, today the RC images (marked Artful Final on the QA >> tracker) have been re-spun and updated. >> >> Please update your ISOs if you downloaded previous images, and test as >> before. >> >> Please help us by testing as much as you have time for. Remember, in >> particular we need i386 testers, on "bare metal" rather than VMs if >> possible. >> >> Builds are available from: >> >> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds >> >> the CD image to left of the ISO names being a link to take you to >> download urls/options. >> >> Please spread that on whatever social media you use. >> >> Take note of the Ubuntu Community ISO testing party on Monday: >> >> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 >> >> Please attend and participate if you are able. The #ubuntu-on-air IRC >> channel on irc.freenode.net can be joined via a web client found >> beneath the live stream on ubuntuonair.com, or of course you can join in >> a normal IRC client. >> >> Happy testing, >> >> Rik Mills >> >> Kubuntu Developer >> Kubuntu Release team >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 03:47:07 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:47:07 -0700 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: At this point, we are at 4 of 6 for amd64, and 3 of 6 for i386. Now a new testcase has been added for upgrades from a previous version for all flavors including us. Please test SOON -- release is in perhaps 12 or so hours away. More test coverage is important to give the Release team the confidence to mark the images as Ready. Thanks! On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hello folks -- please try some testing. If you already have the .1 > version you have an up-to-date ISO RC image; if not, zsync it. > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage > > Please report all the bugs you find and link them to your report on > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds > > Thanks! > > Valorie > > PS: i386 users -- please, please, please test! -v > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Rik Mills wrote: >> Following on from yesterday's 1st spin of the 17.10 RC images by the >> ubuntu release team, today the RC images (marked Artful Final on the QA >> tracker) have been re-spun and updated. >> >> Please update your ISOs if you downloaded previous images, and test as >> before. >> >> Please help us by testing as much as you have time for. Remember, in >> particular we need i386 testers, on "bare metal" rather than VMs if >> possible. >> >> Builds are available from: >> >> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds >> >> the CD image to left of the ISO names being a link to take you to >> download urls/options. >> >> Please spread that on whatever social media you use. >> >> Take note of the Ubuntu Community ISO testing party on Monday: >> >> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 >> >> Please attend and participate if you are able. The #ubuntu-on-air IRC >> channel on irc.freenode.net can be joined via a web client found >> beneath the live stream on ubuntuonair.com, or of course you can join in >> a normal IRC client. >> >> Happy testing, >> >> Rik Mills >> >> Kubuntu Developer >> Kubuntu Release team >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez -- http://about.me/valoriez From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 04:01:58 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:01:58 +1100 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: Valorie Zimmerman, what does that mean should one be ready for i386 in 12 hours and wait till I ger advised? ray On 10/19/17, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > At this point, we are at 4 of 6 for amd64, and 3 of 6 for i386. Now a > new testcase has been added for upgrades from a previous version for > all flavors including us. > > Please test SOON -- release is in perhaps 12 or so hours away. More > test coverage is important to give the Release team the confidence to > mark the images as Ready. > > Thanks! > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Valorie Zimmerman > wrote: >> Hello folks -- please try some testing. If you already have the .1 >> version you have an up-to-date ISO RC image; if not, zsync it. >> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage >> >> Please report all the bugs you find and link them to your report on >> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds >> >> Thanks! >> >> Valorie >> >> PS: i386 users -- please, please, please test! -v >> >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:09 AM, Rik Mills wrote: >>> Following on from yesterday's 1st spin of the 17.10 RC images by the >>> ubuntu release team, today the RC images (marked Artful Final on the QA >>> tracker) have been re-spun and updated. >>> >>> Please update your ISOs if you downloaded previous images, and test as >>> before. >>> >>> Please help us by testing as much as you have time for. Remember, in >>> particular we need i386 testers, on "bare metal" rather than VMs if >>> possible. >>> >>> Builds are available from: >>> >>> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/383/builds >>> >>> the CD image to left of the ISO names being a link to take you to >>> download urls/options. >>> >>> Please spread that on whatever social media you use. >>> >>> Take note of the Ubuntu Community ISO testing party on Monday: >>> >>> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-17-10-community-iso-testing/458 >>> >>> Please attend and participate if you are able. The #ubuntu-on-air IRC >>> channel on irc.freenode.net can be joined via a web client found >>> beneath the live stream on ubuntuonair.com, or of course you can join in >>> a normal IRC client. >>> >>> Happy testing, >>> >>> Rik Mills >>> >>> Kubuntu Developer >>> Kubuntu Release team >>> >>> -- >>> kubuntu-users mailing list >>> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users >> >> >> >> -- >> http://about.me/valoriez > > > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kassube at gmx.net Thu Oct 19 06:02:18 2017 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 08:02:18 +0200 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: <2287151.xcAqGUYa9S@p5915> ray burke wrote: > I have just recently upgraded K12.04 lts to K14.04 lts, and all is > running fine after some teething > problems, as able to use both a dongle stick and dial-up. > What I would like to know is can I download a k17.10 iso and do some > testing to find if I like > and maybe upgrade to it with a direct upgrade, and how big is it to > download for an > iso? You can't upgrade directly from 14.04 LTS to 17.10. The steps would be 14.04 LTS -> 16.04 LTS -> 16.10 (*) -> 17.04 (*) -> 17.10. (*) These steps would be a bit tricky because the standard repos are no longer available and you have to adapt /etc/apt/sources.list. So IMHO for you the only useful way to get to 17.10 would be a new installation. Of course you could test this use case - the download of the iso image is 1.6 GB (64-bit) or 1.7 GB (32-bit). IIRC you wrote some time ago that 16.04 LTS wouldn't work with your dongle stick. So you should first try the live system and find out if 17.10 works with your hardware before you really do a new installation. OTOH please remember that 17.10 will only have 9 months support, so you shouldn't miss the next upgrade to 18.04 LTS next spring. If you don't want to do the next upgrade so soon or if you want to avoid a new installation, you may rather wait for 18.04 LTS because then the possible upgrade path will be 14.04 LTS -> 16.04 LTS -> 18.04 LTS. Nils From rayburke30 at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 19:47:13 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:47:13 +1100 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: <2287151.xcAqGUYa9S@p5915> References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> <2287151.xcAqGUYa9S@p5915> Message-ID: Nils 20/10/2017 in win7 on dongle... thanks for that, where do I find the download, and also cause I have just upgraded to 14.04 which I now like, I might keep for a while as seems to be very complicated? Ray PS what about the last question that I asked you? On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > ray burke wrote: > > I have just recently upgraded K12.04 lts to K14.04 lts, and all is > > running fine after some teething > > problems, as able to use both a dongle stick and dial-up. > > What I would like to know is can I download a k17.10 iso and do some > > testing to find if I like > > and maybe upgrade to it with a direct upgrade, and how big is it to > > download for an > > iso? > > You can't upgrade directly from 14.04 LTS to 17.10. The steps would be > 14.04 LTS -> 16.04 LTS -> 16.10 (*) -> 17.04 (*) -> 17.10. (*) These > steps would be a bit tricky because the standard repos are no longer > available and you have to adapt /etc/apt/sources.list. So IMHO for you > the only useful way to get to 17.10 would be a new installation. Of > course you could test this use case - the download of the iso image is > 1.6 GB (64-bit) or 1.7 GB (32-bit). IIRC you wrote some time ago that > 16.04 LTS wouldn't work with your dongle stick. So you should first try > the live system and find out if 17.10 works with your hardware before > you really do a new installation. > > OTOH please remember that 17.10 will only have 9 months support, so you > shouldn't miss the next upgrade to 18.04 LTS next spring. If you don't > want to do the next upgrade so soon or if you want to avoid a new > installation, you may rather wait for 18.04 LTS because then the > possible upgrade path will be 14.04 LTS -> 16.04 LTS -> 18.04 LTS. > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who tested this cycle, wrote blog posts and other articles, tweeted, posted to forums, Facebook, G+, Mastodon, and other places. So far Artful has been pretty great for me. And soon we'll have Plasma 5.11.1 which we were unable to include in the release because of the release date and cycle freezes. Just add backports to get it when the bugs are ironed out. Of course we still welcome bug reports, people stepping up to be part of the release team, new packagers, help making our documentation and website even more awesome, and more. With this solid release I have great hopes that our next LTS, 18.04 out next spring will be the best yet. Thanks again, Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez From rayburke30 at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 03:16:12 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 14:16:12 +1100 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: <2527645.2dIZ5FN9Eq@p5915> References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> <2287151.xcAqGUYa9S@p5915> <2527645.2dIZ5FN9Eq@p5915> Message-ID: Nils, sorry for that you did answer about changing from manual install to auto, but, it fixed itself when I went offline and closed down and rebooted, so all up to date . the other thing was removal of the none needed linux-pae thru Ubuntu-tweak, as sent a question to Ubuntu-tweak/Kubuntu forum with no answers? Ray On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Nils Kassube wrote: > ray burke wrote: > > thanks for that, where do I find the download, and also cause I > > have just upgraded > > to 14.04 which I now like, I might keep for a while as seems to be > > very complicated? > > You can find the download for 17.10 here: > > > > PS what about the last question that I asked you? > > Sorry, I don't know which question you mean - i must have missed that > one. > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The current kernel for Kubuntu 14.04 is version 3.13.0-133 (or 4.4.0-97 if you are using the HWE version). Nils From honeycuttaaron3 at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 13:56:12 2017 From: honeycuttaaron3 at gmail.com (Aaron Honeycutt) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:56:12 -0600 Subject: Kubuntu 17.10 is released -- thank you team! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome work everyone! Artful is a great release and BB is going to be even better! On Oct 19, 2017 8:24 PM, "Valorie Zimmerman" wrote: > Thanks to everyone who tested this cycle, wrote blog posts and other > articles, tweeted, posted to forums, Facebook, G+, Mastodon, and other > places. So far Artful has been pretty great for me. And soon we'll > have Plasma 5.11.1 which we were unable to include in the release > because of the release date and cycle freezes. Just add backports to > get it when the bugs are ironed out. > > Of course we still welcome bug reports, people stepping up to be part > of the release team, new packagers, help making our documentation and > website even more awesome, and more. With this solid release I have > great hopes that our next LTS, 18.04 out next spring will be the best > yet. > > Thanks again, > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianbrodsky at ameritech.net Fri Oct 20 14:46:18 2017 From: brianbrodsky at ameritech.net (Brian Brodsky) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:46:18 -0400 Subject: After upgrade 17.10 Telepathy no longer connect to google Message-ID: After I upgraded from Kubuntu 17.04 to 17.10 telepathy would no longer connect to my Google Account. So I deleted the account and tried to add it back. When I go to add I either through Telepathy or System Setting -> Online Accounts I get a dialog box that says: There was an error while trying to process the request: userActionFinished error: 2. Thank you, Brian From rayburke30 at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 19:22:35 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 06:22:35 +1100 Subject: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04+k14.04 In-Reply-To: <2211234.rKuTLMqzYS@p5915> References: <2211234.rKuTLMqzYS@p5915> Message-ID: Nils 21/10/2017 in win7 with dongle, thanks, what about thru system settings/boot-loader where on the screen is says first line "Ubuntu" then next to it in red writing "remove old entries" does this mean that when I click this button how many old entries, or does it mean it removes the current one shown? when I am in k14.04 i will take a screen shot of this and send to you OK Ray On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > Ray, > > I think you mean this mail which indeed I didn't answer for some unknown > reason - sorry. > > ray burke wrote: > > Nils > > > > thanks for that I will look into it, but at the moment I followed your > > instructions about the gtk3 and changed > > to default , in my Bkup k14.04 disk, and shows the tabs with listing > > about site in tab, so will use this at > > the moment until if find the correct answer, so again Thanks, > > also do you anything about ubuntu-tweak, which I have carried over > > from my k12.04 to > > k14.04 as wondering if I can use the computer janitor in this to > > remove the old Linux-pae, see attached? > > Yes, you can safely remove all the old -pae kernels. The current kernel > for Kubuntu 14.04 is version 3.13.0-133 (or 4.4.0-97 if you are using > the HWE version). > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kassube at gmx.net Fri Oct 20 20:22:01 2017 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 22:22:01 +0200 Subject: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04+k14.04 In-Reply-To: References: <2211234.rKuTLMqzYS@p5915> Message-ID: <10937230.KDXPhNLb2X@p5915> ray burke wrote: > thanks, what about thru system settings/boot-loader where on the > screen is says > first line "Ubuntu" then next to it in red writing "remove old > entries" does this mean that when I click this button how many old > entries, or does it mean it removes the current one shown? I don't know what it would do - I don't have an entry boot-loader under systemsettings. Is that a Unity or Gnome application perhaps? But didn't you want to use Ubuntu-tweek? > when I am in k14.04 i will take a screen shot of this and send to you That seems like a good idea. Nils From mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com Fri Oct 20 20:50:12 2017 From: mfraz74+ubuntu at gmail.com (Mark Fraser) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:50:12 +0100 Subject: After upgrade 17.10 Telepathy no longer connect to google In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1600195.huJ6Su9P4i@rachael> On Friday, 20 October 2017 15:46:18 BST Brian Brodsky wrote: > After I upgraded from Kubuntu 17.04 to 17.10 telepathy would no longer > connect to my Google Account. So I deleted the account and tried to add > it back. When I go to add I either through Telepathy or System Setting > -> Online Accounts I get a dialog box that says: There was an error > while trying to process the request: userActionFinished error: 2. > > Thank you, > > Brian Brian, This bug has been around for a while, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ +source/meta-kde-telepathy/+bug/1070873 -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 07:29:34 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 00:29:34 -0700 Subject: Updated 17.10 RC ISOs now available In-Reply-To: References: <82b91e37-2793-8d30-f87d-db219b9e56f3@kubuntu.org> Message-ID: Franklin asks, On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Franklin Weng wrote: > Still need to test i386 version? Didn't Canonical drop i386 in 17.10? Testing was needed until a few hours before release, which was Thursday. It is true that Ubuntu will not be releasing i386 for Ubuntu proper anymore, but we and a few other flavors will continue -- IF we have testers. You i386 users came through for the alphas and betas, but I didn't see many tests except from the release team for the most important testing of all, the Release Candidate. This is disappointing. I'll have to hear a very good case for keeping it after the LTS 18.10 next spring. Not just a good case, but a firm commitment to test. If you are one of the supporters of i386, please join the release team on Launchpad[1] and commit to testing *every* pre-release. Valorie 1. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-release -- http://about.me/valoriez From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 04:46:46 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:46:46 +1100 Subject: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04+k14.04 In-Reply-To: <10937230.KDXPhNLb2X@p5915> References: <2211234.rKuTLMqzYS@p5915> <10937230.KDXPhNLb2X@p5915> Message-ID: Nils, I was just wondering what would it do if I just click remove old entries as a quick easy way to do it see attached? Ray On 10/21/17, Nils Kassube wrote: > ray burke wrote: >> thanks, what about thru system settings/boot-loader where on the >> screen is says >> first line "Ubuntu" then next to it in red writing "remove old >> entries" does this mean that when I click this button how many old >> entries, or does it mean it removes the current one shown? > > I don't know what it would do - I don't have an entry boot-loader under > systemsettings. Is that a Unity or Gnome application perhaps? 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Finally you have to authenticate with your password and then it starts removing the old kernels. So yes, you can use that option and it does what you expected. Nils From luca at ventoso.org Sat Oct 21 11:02:38 2017 From: luca at ventoso.org (Luca Olivetti) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 13:02:38 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? Message-ID: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> I just upgraded to 17.10[*] and, as every time I upgrade, the fonts sucks: I like my fonts crisp, so I hate antialiasing at the normal font sizes. OTOH without aliasing most fonts have bad hinting and look awful, so I use fonts with good hinting (msttcorefonts), aliasing disabled between 8 and 15 points and full hinting. This usually fixes the problem with bad fonts, but this time it doesn't: it seems that it doesn't do hinting at all and the fonts are badly rendered (just like they usually do with the autohinter). I tried both using the kde fonts settings (which writes ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf [**]) and linking (in /etc/fonts) conf.avail/10-hinting-full.conf to conf.d but I couldn't fix the problem. At the moment I had to enable aliasing for all font sizes and my eyes are bleeding (though they bled even more without the correct hinting). Any hint (no pun intended)? [*]side note: it didn't propose the upgrade even if I have enabled in discover the setting to show all upgrades, I had to upgrade manually with do-release-upgrade [**]side note 2: it seems that kde cannot parse back the fonts.conf it writes, since, e.g., it shows the aliasing as "disabled" when I just enabled it and it wrote fonts.conf. Bye -- Luca From mrvanes at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 11:57:40 2017 From: mrvanes at gmail.com (Martin van Es) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 13:57:40 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? In-Reply-To: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> References: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> Message-ID: Been there, done that: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-63792 libfreetype 2.8.1 can be downloaded from https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/updates/+sourcepub/8306970/+listing-archive-extra Plasma 5.11.1 is in backports. You'll be left with bad bold and italics hinting, but that's low priority bug according to the triaging verdict of Qt. Martin On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote: > I just upgraded to 17.10[*] and, as every time I upgrade, the fonts sucks: I > like my fonts crisp, so I hate antialiasing at the normal font sizes. > OTOH without aliasing most fonts have bad hinting and look awful, so I use > fonts with good hinting (msttcorefonts), aliasing disabled between 8 and 15 > points and full hinting. > This usually fixes the problem with bad fonts, but this time it doesn't: it > seems that it doesn't do hinting at all and the fonts are badly rendered > (just like they usually do with the autohinter). > > I tried both using the kde fonts settings (which writes > ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf [**]) and linking (in /etc/fonts) > conf.avail/10-hinting-full.conf to conf.d but I couldn't fix the problem. > > At the moment I had to enable aliasing for all font sizes and my eyes are > bleeding (though they bled even more without the correct hinting). > > Any hint (no pun intended)? > > [*]side note: it didn't propose the upgrade even if I have enabled in > discover the setting to show all upgrades, I had to upgrade manually with > do-release-upgrade > > [**]side note 2: it seems that kde cannot parse back the fonts.conf it > writes, since, e.g., it shows the aliasing as "disabled" when I just enabled > it and it wrote fonts.conf. > > > Bye > -- > Luca > > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- If 'but' was any useful, it would be a logic operator From mrvanes at gmail.com Sat Oct 21 12:01:34 2017 From: mrvanes at gmail.com (Martin van Es) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 14:01:34 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? In-Reply-To: References: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> Message-ID: And the setting bug I reported: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384586 On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Martin van Es wrote: > Been there, done that: > https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-63792 > > libfreetype 2.8.1 can be downloaded from > https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/updates/+sourcepub/8306970/+listing-archive-extra > > Plasma 5.11.1 is in backports. > > You'll be left with bad bold and italics hinting, but that's low > priority bug according to the triaging verdict of Qt. > > Martin > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote: >> I just upgraded to 17.10[*] and, as every time I upgrade, the fonts sucks: I >> like my fonts crisp, so I hate antialiasing at the normal font sizes. >> OTOH without aliasing most fonts have bad hinting and look awful, so I use >> fonts with good hinting (msttcorefonts), aliasing disabled between 8 and 15 >> points and full hinting. >> This usually fixes the problem with bad fonts, but this time it doesn't: it >> seems that it doesn't do hinting at all and the fonts are badly rendered >> (just like they usually do with the autohinter). >> >> I tried both using the kde fonts settings (which writes >> ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf [**]) and linking (in /etc/fonts) >> conf.avail/10-hinting-full.conf to conf.d but I couldn't fix the problem. >> >> At the moment I had to enable aliasing for all font sizes and my eyes are >> bleeding (though they bled even more without the correct hinting). >> >> Any hint (no pun intended)? >> >> [*]side note: it didn't propose the upgrade even if I have enabled in >> discover the setting to show all upgrades, I had to upgrade manually with >> do-release-upgrade >> >> [**]side note 2: it seems that kde cannot parse back the fonts.conf it >> writes, since, e.g., it shows the aliasing as "disabled" when I just enabled >> it and it wrote fonts.conf. >> >> >> Bye >> -- >> Luca >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-users mailing list >> kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > > > -- > If 'but' was any useful, it would be a logic operator -- If 'but' was any useful, it would be a logic operator From brianbrodsky at ameritech.net Sat Oct 21 14:00:37 2017 From: brianbrodsky at ameritech.net (Brian Brodsky) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:00:37 -0400 Subject: After upgrade 17.10 Telepathy no longer connect to google In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark, Strange that everything was working until I upgraded to 17.10. I have upgraded this machine through many distribution releases. I also do not have this problem on my desktop computer, which is running a bleeding edge non-Debian based distro, with KDE-Plasma. I did not see anything helpful in trying to resolve this issue in your link. Also that link was distros pre 17.10. Brian On 10/21/2017 03:35 AM, kubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:50:12 +0100 > From: Mark Fraser > To: Kubuntu user technical support > Subject: Re: After upgrade 17.10 Telepathy no longer connect to google > Message-ID: <1600195.huJ6Su9P4i at rachael> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Friday, 20 October 2017 15:46:18 BST Brian Brodsky wrote: >> After I upgraded from Kubuntu 17.04 to 17.10 telepathy would no longer >> connect to my Google Account. So I deleted the account and tried to add >> it back. When I go to add I either through Telepathy or System Setting >> -> Online Accounts I get a dialog box that says: There was an error >> while trying to process the request: userActionFinished error: 2. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Brian > Brian, > This bug has been around for a while, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ > +source/meta-kde-telepathy/+bug/1070873 > > -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luca at ventoso.org Sat Oct 21 15:54:35 2017 From: luca at ventoso.org (Luca Olivetti) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:54:35 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? In-Reply-To: References: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> Message-ID: El 21/10/17 a les 13:57, Martin van Es ha escrit: > Been there, done that: > https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-63792 > > libfreetype 2.8.1 can be downloaded from > https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/updates/+sourcepub/8306970/+listing-archive-extra Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! My eyes are extremely grateful Bye -- Luca From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 02:19:15 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 13:19:15 +1100 Subject: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04+k14.04 In-Reply-To: <2049994.IK6LLGsFLl@p5915> References: <10937230.KDXPhNLb2X@p5915> <2049994.IK6LLGsFLl@p5915> Message-ID: Nils, I know I have already sent this to your email address (Nils Kassube) not thru " Kubuntu user technical support " as when I sent it this way it was held up cause of a moderator was to approve it cause was to large to send with the 2 attachments, so I haven't mean to be over zealous? Ray On 10/21/17, Nils Kassube wrote: > ray burke wrote: >> I was just wondering what would it do if I just click remove old >> entries as a quick easy >> way to do it see attached? > > If someone else is interested - this was my answer to the PM I received > earlier: > > I didn't have the package kde-config-grub2 installed, that's why I > didn't know about that config option. Now I have it installed and I > tried what it would do. It would uninstall all old kernels, but first > you can unselect select which ones to remove. Then you get a list of the > packages to be removed and you have to confirm it. Finally you have to > authenticate with your password and then it starts removing the old > kernels. > > So yes, you can use that option and it does what you expected. > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > From kassube at gmx.net Sun Oct 22 04:45:21 2017 From: kassube at gmx.net (Nils Kassube) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 06:45:21 +0200 Subject: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04+k14.04 In-Reply-To: References: <2049994.IK6LLGsFLl@p5915> Message-ID: <28470792.GVC2blTZIh@p5915> ray burke wrote: > I know I have already sent this to your email address (Nils > Kassube) > not thru " Kubuntu user technical support > " as when I sent it this way it was > held up cause of a moderator was to approve it cause was to large to > send with the 2 attachments, so I haven't mean to be over zealous? Ray, I know about the mail size limit, so no problem with the extra private mail. I just answered to the list as well because someone else might be searching the list archive for the same question. Nils From rayburke30 at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 19:45:05 2017 From: rayburke30 at gmail.com (ray burke) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 06:45:05 +1100 Subject: Fwd: kernel updates for k12.04+k14.04 In-Reply-To: <28470792.GVC2blTZIh@p5915> References: <2049994.IK6LLGsFLl@p5915> <28470792.GVC2blTZIh@p5915> Message-ID: Ray in win7 with dongle 23/10/2017............ Thanks for understanding Ray On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Nils Kassube wrote: > ray burke wrote: > > I know I have already sent this to your email address (Nils > > Kassube) > > not thru " Kubuntu user technical support > > " as when I sent it this way it was > > held up cause of a moderator was to approve it cause was to large to > > send with the 2 attachments, so I haven't mean to be over zealous? > > Ray, I know about the mail size limit, so no problem with the extra > private mail. I just answered to the list as well because someone else > might be searching the list archive for the same question. > > > Nils > > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrvanes at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 11:01:07 2017 From: mrvanes at gmail.com (Martin van Es) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:01:07 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? In-Reply-To: References: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> Message-ID: And bold/italics can be fixed as well! https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376630 Just remove all ",Regular" in .config/kdeglobals font configuration and do the same in .config/Trolltech.conf for normal Qt applications. I now have all crisp fonts back! On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote: > El 21/10/17 a les 13:57, Martin van Es ha escrit: >> >> Been there, done that: >> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-63792 >> >> libfreetype 2.8.1 can be downloaded from >> >> https://launchpad.net/~mamarley/+archive/ubuntu/updates/+sourcepub/8306970/+listing-archive-extra > > > Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! > > My eyes are extremely grateful > > > Bye > -- > Luca > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- If 'but' was any useful, it would be a logic operator From luca at ventoso.org Mon Oct 23 13:42:44 2017 From: luca at ventoso.org (Luca Olivetti) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:42:44 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? In-Reply-To: References: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> Message-ID: <38122f96-7f1a-3bc1-51a8-d9f6a8296d33@ventoso.org> El 23/10/17 a les 13:01, Martin van Es ha escrit: > And bold/italics can be fixed as well! > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376630 > > Just remove all ",Regular" in .config/kdeglobals font configuration > and do the same in .config/Trolltech.conf for normal Qt applications. I have no trace of "Regular" in both those files, yet bold fonts are badly rendered. Not a biggie, since there are not many places where bold fonts are used. Note that I only upgraded libfreetype, not plasma, maybe that's the problem. Bye -- Luca From mrvanes at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 13:47:42 2017 From: mrvanes at gmail.com (Martin van Es) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:47:42 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? In-Reply-To: <38122f96-7f1a-3bc1-51a8-d9f6a8296d33@ventoso.org> References: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> <38122f96-7f1a-3bc1-51a8-d9f6a8296d33@ventoso.org> Message-ID: Maybe it's another word. The problem is, the font query is too specific and should end with ,0 like this (I use Ubuntu 9): Ubuntu,9,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 So maybe there's "Medium" or even a localized version of "Regular" there for you? It's under the [General] settings. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Luca Olivetti wrote: > El 23/10/17 a les 13:01, Martin van Es ha escrit: >> >> And bold/italics can be fixed as well! >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376630 >> >> Just remove all ",Regular" in .config/kdeglobals font configuration >> and do the same in .config/Trolltech.conf for normal Qt applications. > > > I have no trace of "Regular" in both those files, yet bold fonts are badly > rendered. Not a biggie, since there are not many places where bold fonts are > used. > Note that I only upgraded libfreetype, not plasma, maybe that's the problem. > > > Bye > -- > Luca > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- If 'but' was any useful, it would be a logic operator From james.cain.25 at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 17:48:08 2017 From: james.cain.25 at gmail.com (James Cain) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 13:48:08 -0400 Subject: Kubuntu 17.10 is released -- thank you team! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congrats all the way around on this well-received release. Very impressed with Kubuntu lately and I know it takes sometimes a herculean-effort to get things done right and on time. Onward to the future and the next LTS! On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Aaron Honeycutt wrote: > Awesome work everyone! Artful is a great release and BB is going to be > even better! > > On Oct 19, 2017 8:24 PM, "Valorie Zimmerman" > wrote: > >> Thanks to everyone who tested this cycle, wrote blog posts and other >> articles, tweeted, posted to forums, Facebook, G+, Mastodon, and other >> places. So far Artful has been pretty great for me. And soon we'll >> have Plasma 5.11.1 which we were unable to include in the release >> because of the release date and cycle freezes. Just add backports to >> get it when the bugs are ironed out. >> >> Of course we still welcome bug reports, people stepping up to be part >> of the release team, new packagers, help making our documentation and >> website even more awesome, and more. With this solid release I have >> great hopes that our next LTS, 18.04 out next spring will be the best >> yet. >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Valorie >> >> -- >> http://about.me/valoriez >> >> -- >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm >> an/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> > > -- > kubuntu-users mailing list > kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ > mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luca at ventoso.org Tue Oct 24 06:54:13 2017 From: luca at ventoso.org (Luca Olivetti) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:54:13 +0200 Subject: 17.10 font hinting broken? In-Reply-To: References: <64cb1ebd-16d0-e46f-631d-5020a7c1c963@ventoso.org> <38122f96-7f1a-3bc1-51a8-d9f6a8296d33@ventoso.org> Message-ID: <18eb493f-42e3-6dbf-e30b-ec2ac1dab4aa@ventoso.org> El 23/10/17 a les 15:47, Martin van Es ha escrit: > Maybe it's another word. The problem is, the font query is too > specific and should end with ,0 like this (I use Ubuntu 9): > Ubuntu,9,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0 > > So maybe there's "Medium" or even a localized version of "Regular" > there for you? It's under the [General] settings. Yes, found it, in my case it was "Normal". I removed it and all is well. Bye -- Luca From staniek at kde.org Wed Oct 25 22:58:50 2017 From: staniek at kde.org (Jaroslaw Staniek) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 00:58:50 +0200 Subject: Can anyone try to run Kexi on Kubuntu 17.10? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I am not sure the software is actually tested on deployment or how it is tested. Because (as someone not involved in deployment) I have no access to Kubuntu machines, could anyone be so kind and try to run Kexi on Kubuntu 17.10? I would appreciate. A bug report from a user is as follows: > I downloaded a Kubuntu 17.10 image, and ran "sudo apt-get install kexi". That ran without errors, but when I then try to open Kexi by typing kexi in a Terminal I get > this error: "Could not open icon resource file 'breeze-icons.rcc'. Kexi will not start. Please check if Kexi is properly installed.' TIA! -- regards, Jaroslaw Staniek KDE: : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org Calligra Suite: : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org Kexi: : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi Qt Certified Specialist: : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek From clay at claydoh.com Thu Oct 26 00:39:41 2017 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:39:41 -0400 Subject: Can anyone try to run Kexi on Kubuntu 17.10? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4aacf0e249a4bc6af6a4e44e07c86ec8.squirrel@claydoh.com> On Wed, October 25, 2017 6:58 pm, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Hello, > I am not sure the software is actually tested on deployment or how it is > tested. Because (as someone not involved in deployment) I have no access > to Kubuntu machines, could anyone be so kind and try to run Kexi on > Kubuntu 17.10? > I would appreciate. > > > A bug report from a user is as follows: > > >> I downloaded a Kubuntu 17.10 image, and ran "sudo apt-get install >> kexi". That ran without errors, but when I then try to open Kexi by >> typing kexi in a Terminal I get this error: "Could not open icon >> resource file 'breeze-icons.rcc'. Kexi will not start. Please check if >> Kexi is properly installed.' >> > > TIA! > > > -- > regards, Jaroslaw Staniek > >From a brief glance, I would say that the user needs to install the breeze icon theme. The Kexi package in Kubuntu/Ubuntu is a direct, automatic import from Debian, and as such is not actually touched by Kubuntu or Ubuntu folks at all. As a so-called Universe (1) package, it has zero testing and only has support from the community - i.e. not officially supported. I think the user is hitting this bug (2) (3) I imagine it should be fairly simple to fix. It would be worth reporting this on Launchpad (4) Forwarding to the -devel list Clay Weber (1) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu (2) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1492881 (3) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369230 (4) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kexi/+filebug From clay at claydoh.com Thu Oct 26 00:50:32 2017 From: clay at claydoh.com (Clay Weber) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:50:32 -0400 Subject: Can anyone try to run Kexi on Kubuntu 17.10? Message-ID: On Wed, October 25, 2017 6:58 pm, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Hello, > I am not sure the software is actually tested on deployment or how it is > tested. Because (as someone not involved in deployment) I have no access > to Kubuntu machines, could anyone be so kind and try to run Kexi on > Kubuntu 17.10? > I would appreciate. > > > A bug report from a user is as follows: > > >> I downloaded a Kubuntu 17.10 image, and ran "sudo apt-get install >> kexi". That ran without errors, but when I then try to open Kexi by >> typing kexi in a Terminal I get this error: "Could not open icon >> resource file 'breeze-icons.rcc'. Kexi will not start. Please check if >> Kexi is properly installed.' >> > > TIA! > > > -- > regards, Jaroslaw Staniek > In Ubuntu/Kubuntu, the Kexi package is one that has been automatically imported from Debian. This "Universe" (1) package is not tested at all, and only has community support - i.e. not officially supported. >From a quick glance, it seems that the user can fox this by installing the Breeze icon theme, as it appears that they are hitting this bug (2) (3). It seems like a fairly simple fix, so a bug report on launchpad (4) may be a good idea. Forwarding to the -devel list Clay Weber (1) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu (2) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1492881 (3) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369230 (4) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kexi/+filebug From rikmills at kubuntu.org Thu Oct 26 13:42:39 2017 From: rikmills at kubuntu.org (Rik Mills) Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:42:39 +0100 Subject: Can anyone try to run Kexi on Kubuntu 17.10? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is fixed in debian with commit: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/calligra/kexi.git/commit/?id=c5c79c5cf87d8e5e4ee6ac28e9e4d01073b1cd0d in 1:3.0.2-3 or later this will autosync to bionic when those syncs are turned on. meanwhile we can look at an SRU for artful. Rik On 25/10/17 23:58, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Hello, > I am not sure the software is actually tested on deployment or how it is tested. > Because (as someone not involved in deployment) I have no access to > Kubuntu machines, could anyone be so kind and try to run Kexi on > Kubuntu 17.10? > I would appreciate. > > A bug report from a user is as follows: > >> I downloaded a Kubuntu 17.10 image, and ran "sudo apt-get install kexi". That ran without errors, but when I then try to open Kexi by typing kexi in a Terminal I get >> this error: "Could not open icon resource file 'breeze-icons.rcc'. Kexi will not start. Please check if Kexi is properly installed.' > > TIA! > From valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com Sun Oct 29 21:03:20 2017 From: valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com (Valorie Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 14:03:20 -0700 Subject: Help test Plasma 5.8.8 LTS and Krita 3.3.1 for Kubuntu Backports! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Simon for getting this together, and publicizing it. More below - On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Simon Quigley wrote: > Have you been using the Kubuntu Backports PPA on Kubuntu 16.04 LTS? Help > us test the latest release of KDE Plasma LTS and Krita 3.3.1! Our goal > is to release these updates to users on Saturday, November 4, 2017 > barring any issues. > > You can find the full changelog for KDE Plasma 5.8.8 LTS here[1], which > shows what fixes are included in this update. > > In order to install these updates to test, you must have the Backports > PPA installed already on a Kubuntu 16.04 LTS system. In order to do > that, run the following in a terminal: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && > sudo apt full-upgrade > > Once that is done, log out and log back in (a reboot wouldn’t hurt). > Then, to add the Backports Landing PPA, run the following: > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing && sudo apt > update && sudo apt full-upgrade > > Another logout and login is needed. > > If you run into any issues, we recommend that you join #kubuntu-devel on > freenode and let us know. Otherwise as a last resort you can subscribe > to the kubuntu-devel mailing list[2] and send us an email. > > Happy testing! > > [1] https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.7-5.8.8-changelog.php > [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > -- > Simon Quigley > tsimonq2 at kubuntu.org > tsimonq2 on freenode and OFTC > 5C7A BEA2 0F86 3045 9CC8 > C8B5 E27F 2CF8 458C 2FA4 Test please! In particular, as always, we need i386 testers on i386 machines if we are to continue support of 386. Also, help spread the word through your various social media. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez