Ubuntu's malone und Gentoo-Bugs

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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Hello Reinhard and Marc

On May 24, 2006, at 5:07 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> ...
> I just received a couple of questions about malone from our gentoo
> friends. I'm forwarding the email here. Please be so kind and CC: him 
> on answers.
> ...
> Basic Questions:
>
> Trust relationships between bug
> - Will troll X registered in project debian be able to cross-spam
> bugs.gentoo.org? or vise versa?

Malone keeps track of statuses of bug reports in other bug trackers, 
but it doesn't transmit, or even import, comments or bug reports from 
any other bug tracker. (bugzilla.ubuntu.com was imported into Malone, 
and we could do that for other projects wanting to switch to Malone, 
but that would happen only once per project.) To report a bug or make a 
comment in Malone, you need a Launchpad account. So whether troll X is 
registered in debbugs has nothing to do with Malone.

It's possible that in the future, if someone says "hey, this bug also 
occurs in Gentoo", Malone could automatically copy the bug report to 
Gentoo's Bugzilla. But we wouldn't do that without discussing it fully 
with people from Gentoo, considering things like avoiding duplicates 
and controlling spammers. <http://markshuttleworth.com/archives/25>

> - If Gentoo deletes troll X will this clean up debian's bugz?

I don't know what this has to do with Malone, since both Gentoo and 
Debian use separate bug trackers. (Is Gentoo considering using Malone? 
That would be awesome.)

> Full list of value add:
> - Single edit in bugs.g.o pushed the bugs to the upstream bug program?

I don't know, I've never used bugs.g.o. :-) If you meant "single edit 
in Malone", the answer is "no", for the same reasons as I gave for 
distributions: it's not implemented, and if it were, we'd need to work 
out how to minimize duplicates and spam.

Actually, I've just noticed that Malone's About page falsely claims 
that you can do exactly this! I'll fix that shortly.
<https://launchpad.net/bugs/46261>

> - Single link from bugs.g.o will show you a list of bugs on the same
> product in other distros?

Again, if you mean "single link from Malone", no, because Malone 
doesn't automatically import bugs from other bug trackers.

> - Will there be a single link to say bug x in gentoo is the same as 
> bug y in Redhat?

Yes, there is. For example, see bug 13729 
<https://launchpad.net/bugs/13729>, which shows links to equivalent bug 
reports in bugzilla.gnome.org, bugs.debian.org, and 
bugzilla.redhat.com. Whenever someone fixes the bug, that status will 
appear on the Malone page.

> Will this be transitive to Ubuntu?

Yes, the page for bug X in context Y shows its statuses everywhere that 
Malone knows about the bug, regardless of the value of Y.

> Ownership of relationship.
> - Does Gentoo devs decide to relate to distro Debian bug handler?
> - Do Gentoo devs decide package x is the same as package y in Debian
> which is the same as sourceforge project number z?

Those questions are probably best addressed to the Gentoo developers.

In Launchpad, upstream products can be linked to distribution packages, 
so that (eventually) Malone will be able to coordinate bug reports 
about different packages of the same product.

> Technical
> - Is it a distributed API?

No, it will be centered on xmlrpc.launchpad.net.

> - What access control on all features?

Anyone with a Launchpad account can report or change a bug (we don't 
yet have the equivalent of Bugzilla's "editbugs" permission). Very 
generally, most things in Launchpad (such as distributions and 
packages) have maintainers, who can add and change subcomponents of the 
thing they're a maintainer of. Deletions can be done only by the 
Launchpad DBA (though that should be fixed eventually). A maintainer 
can be a team of people.

> Future:
> - Is this in active development?

Definitely!

> - Is the API version controlled

No. (I don't think we have enough of an API for that yet.)

> - Is bugzilla.org supporting integration into future releases?

Malone is a completely different codebase from Bugzilla.

> - What other bug management devs are integrating?

Lots of cool things, such as the ability for Malone to read commit 
messages and mark relevant bugs as fixed automatically.

> - Will sourceforge globally enable bug integration by default?
> ...

That question would be better addressed to the SourceForge developers.

Cheers
- -- 
Matthew Paul Thomas
http://mpt.net.nz/
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