launchpad-users Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17

Thu Dec 20 11:06:33 GMT 2007

> From: launchpad-users-request at lists.canonical.com> Subject: launchpad-users Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17> To: launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:00:09 +0000> > Send launchpad-users mailing list submissions to> launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> launchpad-users-request at lists.canonical.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> launchpad-users-owner at lists.canonical.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of launchpad-users digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia)> 2. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Christian Robottom Reis)> 3. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Joseph Price)> 4. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Sarah Hobbs)> 5. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia)> 6. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Sarah Hobbs)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:17:55 -0500> From: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <palopezv at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions> To: launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Message-ID: <1197980276.11523.7.camel at fanelia.lan>> Content-Type: text/plain> > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 22:52 +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> > Hash: SHA1> > > > Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote:> > > * Add universe/blah to the Section(s) in debian/control. (No luck trying> > > with multiverse, but I haven't found a explicit warning about these> > > though, so my vmware-package crossport ended up in main, unsightly even> > > if it didn't work for some reason I have found time to debug).> > > > > > > This is now unneeded - the components in PPAs were blown away a few> > releases ago, and everything gets put into 'main'. However, this 'main'> > is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat covered in the quick start> > guide, although it does not explicitly say that ppa main != ubuntu main.> > > > Hobbsee> > Thats good to known. BTW, would you care to check why I was banned from> #ubuntu+1 (that was the later the same day last time we exchanged in IRC> [I'm vorbote in Freenode])I concede I was sleepy at the time but whoever> did it doesn't deserve oprator status (I won't talk about #ubuntu-es,> that channel is like a personal club if still handled by the pelicano> character.> > Cheers> > Alejo > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:44:21 -0200> From: Christian Robottom Reis <kiko at async.com.br>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions> To: Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee at ubuntu.com>, Mark Shuttleworth> <mark at ubuntu.com>, Celso Providelo <cprov at async.com.br>> Cc: launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Message-ID: <20071218124421.GA6863 at anthem.async.com.br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:52:27PM +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:> > This is now unneeded - the components in PPAs were blown away a few> > releases ago, and everything gets put into 'main'. However, this 'main'> > is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat covered in the quick start> > guide, although it does not explicitly say that ppa main != ubuntu main.> > We could rename main to only or single or something, for PPAs, perhaps.> It might still be confusing though.> > Hmmm. We could also call the component "ppa" and use that as the> differentiating mechanism to Ubuntu primary. Is that a crazy idea?> -- > Christian Robottom Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:33:14 +0000> From: Joseph Price <pricechild at ubuntu.com>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions> To: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <palopezv at gmail.com>,> launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Message-ID: <1197999194.6052.1.camel at john>> Content-Type: text/plain> > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 07:17 -0500, Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote:> > BTW, would you care to check why I was banned from> > #ubuntu+1 (that was the later the same day last time we exchanged in IRC> > [I'm vorbote in Freenode])I concede I was sleepy at the time but whoever> > did it doesn't deserve oprator status (I won't talk about #ubuntu-es,> > that channel is like a personal club if still handled by the pelicano> > character.> > > > Cheers> > > > Alejo > Please feel free to come into #ubuntu-ops on irc.freenode.net to discuss> this.> > Pricey> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:30:10 +1100> From: Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee at ubuntu.com>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions> To: Mark Shuttleworth <mark at ubuntu.com>> Cc: Celso Providelo <cprov at async.com.br>,> launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Message-ID: <47687422.5090008 at ubuntu.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> Hash: SHA1> > Mark Shuttleworth wrote:> > Christian Robottom Reis wrote:> >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:52:27PM +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:> >> > >>> This is now unneeded - the components in PPAs were blown away a few> >>> releases ago, and everything gets put into 'main'. However, this 'main'> >>> is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat covered in the quick start> >>> guide, although it does not explicitly say that ppa main != ubuntu main.> >>> > >>> >> We could rename main to only or single or something, for PPAs, perhaps.> >> It might still be confusing though.> >>> >> Hmmm. We could also call the component "ppa" and use that as the> >> differentiating mechanism to Ubuntu primary. Is that a crazy idea?> >> > > I'd prefer that PPAs aren't additional complexity for new users and> > developers. Pushing everything to main simplifies things for people who> > don't know about components, making it a new component could have the> > opposite effect.> > > However, clearly a lot of people are used to having multiple components,> and so get confused about why the package that is normally in universe,> in the ubuntu repositories, shows up in main now. This can probably be> solved with better documentation.> > Hobbsee> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org> > iD8DBQFHaHQi7/o1b30rzoURAszyAJ9bJx8W6st6LaLc1+IVbOLYYhg9YQCg0fTm> NyXAwccodNFRPbNg3lUIZNc=> =KVQ6> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:57:32 -0500> From: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <palopezv at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions> To: Mark Shuttleworth <mark at ubuntu.com>> Cc: Celso Providelo <cprov at async.com.br>, Sarah Hobbs> <hobbsee at ubuntu.com>, launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Message-ID: <1198033052.9838.28.camel at fanelia.lan>> Content-Type: text/plain> > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 14:53 +0000, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:> > > > > I'd prefer that PPAs aren't additional complexity for new users and> > developers. Pushing everything to main simplifies things for people> > who don't know about components, making it a new component could have> > the opposite effect.> > I agree that simplicity is best, but main does have a connotation of> official support that might cause wrong assumptions among those people> that use the material we place in our ppas but don't know the process> involved in creating such.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:36:54 +1100> From: Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee at ubuntu.com>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions> To: Joseph Price <pricechild at ubuntu.com>> Cc: launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Message-ID: <476891D6.6090607 at ubuntu.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> Hash: SHA1> > Joseph Price wrote:> > Please feel free to come into #ubuntu-ops on irc.freenode.net to discuss> > this.> > > > Pricey> > > Already resolved via private email, thanks.> > Hobbsee> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org> > iD8DBQFHaJHW7/o1b30rzoURAg8nAKCnHckxI+u+9AU+EeyQvl9nKMlnNQCeLLPr> BEZBMJkwkZdQPm45pzUOals=> =fQja> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----> > > > ------------------------------> > -- > launchpad-users mailing list> launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users> > > End of launchpad-users Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17> ***********************************************
 
 
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